According to Geoscience Australia, Australia has 8,222 islands.
Say what?
I bet I couldn’t name more than 100 or so.

Delving a bit deeper, nearly half of those, more than 3,700, are in Western Australia.
Not the Tasmanian Islands, or the Great Barrier Reef Islands, or the Melville to Groote Island groups of NT.

Now I know there’s a few islands at the western edge of the Great Australian bite around Esperance, but not that many.
And lots of islands for the Kimberley, but I would have put the number there at more like 300 than 3,000.

So where are these 3,000 or so missing islands? And what can be done with them – tourist-wise?

mollwollfumble said:

According to Geoscience Australia, Australia has 8,222 islands.
Say what?
I bet I couldn’t name more than 100 or so.

Delving a bit deeper, nearly half of those, more than 3,700, are in Western Australia.
Not the Tasmanian Islands, or the Great Barrier Reef Islands, or the Melville to Groote Island groups of NT.

Now I know there’s a few islands at the western edge of the Great Australian bite around Esperance, but not that many.
And lots of islands for the Kimberley, but I would have put the number there at more like 300 than 3,000.

So where are these 3,000 or so missing islands? And what can be done with them – tourist-wise?

When doe a rock sticking out of the sea become an island?

mollwollfumble said:

According to Geoscience Australia, Australia has 8,222 islands.
Say what?
I bet I couldn’t name more than 100 or so.

Delving a bit deeper, nearly half of those, more than 3,700, are in Western Australia.
Not the Tasmanian Islands, or the Great Barrier Reef Islands, or the Melville to Groote Island groups of NT.

Now I know there’s a few islands at the western edge of the Great Australian bite around Esperance, but not that many.
And lots of islands for the Kimberley, but I would have put the number there at more like 300 than 3,000.

So where are these 3,000 or so missing islands? And what can be done with them – tourist-wise?

Firstly, Mr Fumble, you’d better ask Mr Geo Science what their definition of an island is. Perhaps you could claim an un-named one and call it Mollwollfumble Island. You know. And get its own postcode and everything.

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

According to Geoscience Australia, Australia has 8,222 islands.
Say what?
I bet I couldn’t name more than 100 or so.

Delving a bit deeper, nearly half of those, more than 3,700, are in Western Australia.
Not the Tasmanian Islands, or the Great Barrier Reef Islands, or the Melville to Groote Island groups of NT.

Now I know there’s a few islands at the western edge of the Great Australian bite around Esperance, but not that many.
And lots of islands for the Kimberley, but I would have put the number there at more like 300 than 3,000.

So where are these 3,000 or so missing islands? And what can be done with them – tourist-wise?

When doe a rock sticking out of the sea become an island?

When it has a tree on it? Is there a One Tree Island?

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

According to Geoscience Australia, Australia has 8,222 islands.
Say what?
I bet I couldn’t name more than 100 or so.

Delving a bit deeper, nearly half of those, more than 3,700, are in Western Australia.
Not the Tasmanian Islands, or the Great Barrier Reef Islands, or the Melville to Groote Island groups of NT.

Now I know there’s a few islands at the western edge of the Great Australian bite around Esperance, but not that many.
And lots of islands for the Kimberley, but I would have put the number there at more like 300 than 3,000.

So where are these 3,000 or so missing islands? And what can be done with them – tourist-wise?

When doe a rock sticking out of the sea become an island?

when it is surrounded by water but is smaller than a continent.

there’d be a few hundred from israelite bay around to augusta.

A list of selected Australian islands grouped by state or territory. Australia has 8,222 islands within its maritime borders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_Australia

JudgeMental said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

According to Geoscience Australia, Australia has 8,222 islands.
Say what?
I bet I couldn’t name more than 100 or so.

Delving a bit deeper, nearly half of those, more than 3,700, are in Western Australia.
Not the Tasmanian Islands, or the Great Barrier Reef Islands, or the Melville to Groote Island groups of NT.

Now I know there’s a few islands at the western edge of the Great Australian bite around Esperance, but not that many.
And lots of islands for the Kimberley, but I would have put the number there at more like 300 than 3,000.

So where are these 3,000 or so missing islands? And what can be done with them – tourist-wise?

When doe a rock sticking out of the sea become an island?

when it is surrounded by water but is smaller than a continent.

Yes! That is exactly the definition by Geoscience Australia. It includes islands in the Murray River for instance, but there aren’t many of those. I personally use the definition as land that is surrounded by water above water at both high tide and low tide. And in both flood and drought.

Follow on question. What is the weird geology of the Kimberley (and Esperance) that creates so many islands?

PS, Geoscience Australia excludes the Islands of Australian Antarctic territory.

Western Australia 3747
Queensland 1955
Tasmania 1000
Northern Territory 887
South Australia 346
Victoria 184
New South Wales 102
Jervis Bay Territory 1
Australian Capital Territory -
TOTAL 8222

JudgeMental said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

According to Geoscience Australia, Australia has 8,222 islands.
Say what?
I bet I couldn’t name more than 100 or so.

Delving a bit deeper, nearly half of those, more than 3,700, are in Western Australia.
Not the Tasmanian Islands, or the Great Barrier Reef Islands, or the Melville to Groote Island groups of NT.

Now I know there’s a few islands at the western edge of the Great Australian bite around Esperance, but not that many.
And lots of islands for the Kimberley, but I would have put the number there at more like 300 than 3,000.

So where are these 3,000 or so missing islands? And what can be done with them – tourist-wise?

When doe a rock sticking out of the sea become an island?

when it is surrounded by water but is smaller than a continent.

In that case the number of islands in Australia would be too innumerable to enumerate.

The Rev Dodgson said:

JudgeMental said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

When doe a rock sticking out of the sea become an island?

when it is surrounded by water but is smaller than a continent.

In that case the number of islands in Australia would be too innumerable to enumerate.

even near infinite is countable.

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

According to Geoscience Australia, Australia has 8,222 islands.
Say what?
I bet I couldn’t name more than 100 or so.

Delving a bit deeper, nearly half of those, more than 3,700, are in Western Australia.
Not the Tasmanian Islands, or the Great Barrier Reef Islands, or the Melville to Groote Island groups of NT.

Now I know there’s a few islands at the western edge of the Great Australian bite around Esperance, but not that many.
And lots of islands for the Kimberley, but I would have put the number there at more like 300 than 3,000.

So where are these 3,000 or so missing islands? And what can be done with them – tourist-wise?

When doe a rock sticking out of the sea become an island?

When someone lands on it.

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

According to Geoscience Australia, Australia has 8,222 islands.
Say what?
I bet I couldn’t name more than 100 or so.

Delving a bit deeper, nearly half of those, more than 3,700, are in Western Australia.
Not the Tasmanian Islands, or the Great Barrier Reef Islands, or the Melville to Groote Island groups of NT.

Now I know there’s a few islands at the western edge of the Great Australian bite around Esperance, but not that many.
And lots of islands for the Kimberley, but I would have put the number there at more like 300 than 3,000.

So where are these 3,000 or so missing islands? And what can be done with them – tourist-wise?

When doe a rock sticking out of the sea become an island?

Well, Rev., you just opened yourself a can of worms.

Defining what an ‘island’ is can be a full-time career.

The UN’s Office for Ocean Affairs and the Law of the Sea has this in its 1988 work on the matter, and it’s the generally accepted definition:

https://www.un.org/depts/los/doalos_publications/publicationstexts/E_87_V_11_e.pdf

Clive Symmons ofthe international Boundaries Research Unit at the University of Durham goes into it in greater detail in his 1995 paper ‘Some Problems Relating to the Definition of Insular Formations in International Law – Islands and Low-Tide Formations’.

https://www.un.org/depts/los/doalos_publications/publicationstexts/E_87_V_11_e.pdf

They’re good places to start.

Wrong link to Clive’s paper there.

This is the right one:

https://www.durham.ac.uk/media/durham-university/research-/research-centres/ibru-centre-for-borders-research/maps-and-databases/publications-database/maritime-briefings/mb_1-5.pdf

SW Kimberley from Google Earth

Almost 100 islands in this image alone. Vertically folded sedimentary layers seems to be the key.

There have got to be coral reefs around some of these, right?

A fisherman’s paradise, or a pirate’s.

Further north.

JudgeMental said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

JudgeMental said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

When doe a rock sticking out of the sea become an island?

when it is surrounded by water but is smaller than a continent.

In that case the number of islands in Australia would be too innumerable to enumerate.

even near infinite is countable.

Continents can be islands but anyway, as long as the length of its coastline is infinite we(0,0,0)’re happy to call it an island.

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

In that case the number of islands in Australia would be too innumerable to enumerate.

even near infinite is countable.

Continents can be islands but anyway, as long as the length of its coastline is infinite we(0,0,0)’re happy to call it an island.

Thanks for that MATHS, but in the real world no island has a coastline of infinite length.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

even near infinite is countable.

Continents can be islands but anyway, as long as the length of its coastline is infinite we(0,0,0)’re happy to call it an island.

Thanks for that MATHS, but in the real world no island has a coastline of infinite length.

Except maybe…Mobius Island!

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

even near infinite is countable.

Continents can be islands but anyway, as long as the length of its coastline is infinite we(0,0,0)’re happy to call it an island.

Thanks for that MATHS, but in the real world no island has a coastline of infinite length.

no even Koch’s Island?

Certainly seems a weird question. You already told us where they are, and not all islands have any tourism potential.

Here are half a dozen of them near Halls Head. Low lying, muddy, minor. Hard to see tourists flocking to them.

dv said:

Certainly seems a weird question. You already told us where they are, and not all islands have any tourism potential.

Here are half a dozen of them near Halls Head. Low lying, muddy, minor. Hard to see tourists flocking to them.

Good place for a quiet barbecue?

No Man is an island.

dv said:

Certainly seems a weird question. You already told us where they are, and not all islands have any tourism potential.

Here are half a dozen of them near Halls Head. Low lying, muddy, minor. Hard to see tourists flocking to them.

By tourists, I assume you aren’t talking about migratory birds.

fsm said:

Western Australia 3747
Queensland 1955
Tasmania 1000
Northern Territory 887
South Australia 346
Victoria 184
New South Wales 102
Jervis Bay Territory 1
Australian Capital Territory -
TOTAL 8222

Don’t be telling me there’s no islands in the ACT, I’ve seen one.

JudgeMental said:

No Man is an island.

I am a rock

dv said:

fsm said:

Western Australia 3747
Queensland 1955
Tasmania 1000
Northern Territory 887
South Australia 346
Victoria 184
New South Wales 102
Jervis Bay Territory 1
Australian Capital Territory -
TOTAL 8222

Don’t be telling me there’s no islands in the ACT, I’ve seen one.

There’s at least two there, and they even have names, but to remove all doubt, there is an Island in Lake Burley Griffin:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

fsm said:

Western Australia 3747
Queensland 1955
Tasmania 1000
Northern Territory 887
South Australia 346
Victoria 184
New South Wales 102
Jervis Bay Territory 1
Australian Capital Territory -
TOTAL 8222

Don’t be telling me there’s no islands in the ACT, I’ve seen one.

There’s at least two there, and they even have names, but to remove all doubt, there is an Island in Lake Burley Griffin:

:) That got a smile.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Don’t be telling me there’s no islands in the ACT, I’ve seen one.

There’s at least two there, and they even have names, but to remove all doubt, there is an Island in Lake Burley Griffin:

:) That got a smile.

I like those straightforward names.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

There’s at least two there, and they even have names, but to remove all doubt, there is an Island in Lake Burley Griffin:

:) That got a smile.

I like those straightforward names.

Another smile has been had. :)

roughbarked said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

:) That got a smile.

I like those straightforward names.

Another smile has been had. :)

They had an opportunity, but messed it up.

Could have been ‘Island in Lake Burley Griffin’, ‘The Other Island in Lake Burley Griffin’, ‘Hey, Whaddaya Know, Yet Another Island in Lake Burley Griffin!’.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

I like those straightforward names.

Another smile has been had. :)

They had an opportunity, but messed it up.

Could have been ‘Island in Lake Burley Griffin’, ‘The Other Island in Lake Burley Griffin’, ‘Hey, Whaddaya Know, Yet Another Island in Lake Burley Griffin!’.

Well spotted. :)

What about the millions of millions of millions of islands every time the waves on the beach deposit silicate crystals but leave them partially submerged¿

SCIENCE said:

What about the millions of millions of millions of islands every time the waves on the beach deposit silicate crystals but leave them partially submerged¿

If not above water at high tide, they miss out.

Most islands are only temporary structures dependent of current water levels that can vary via sea-level change or drought, so best not to be too pedantic.

PermeateFree said:

Most islands are only temporary structures dependent of current water levels that can vary via sea-level change or drought, so best not to be too pedantic.

Feel free to be a lack of permeate. ;)

PermeateFree said:

Most islands are only temporary structures dependent of current water levels that can vary via sea-level change or drought, so best not to be too pedantic.

Come to that, ‘continents’ are temporary thing, in the much longer run of events.

Once all part of a single super-continent, and maybe one day back to being that again.

captain_spalding said:

PermeateFree said:

Most islands are only temporary structures dependent of current water levels that can vary via sea-level change or drought, so best not to be too pedantic.

Come to that, ‘continents’ are temporary thing, in the much longer run of events.

Once all part of a single super-continent, and maybe one day back to being that again.

Up, down, turn around. Touch the sky, And touch the ground! Wiggle your fingers, Wiggle your toes/nose, Wiggle your shoulders, And ..

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Most islands are only temporary structures dependent of current water levels that can vary via sea-level change or drought, so best not to be too pedantic.

Feel free to be a lack of permeate. ;)

All islands are temporary structures

Continence Is Temporary

SCIENCE said:

Continence Is Temporary

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SCIENCE said:

Continence Is Temporary

Then what is incontinence?

captain_spalding said:

PermeateFree said:

Most islands are only temporary structures dependent of current water levels that can vary via sea-level change or drought, so best not to be too pedantic.

Come to that, ‘continents’ are temporary thing, in the much longer run of events.

Once all part of a single super-continent, and maybe one day back to being that again.

Well most of what we call islands around Australia were connected to the mainland less than 20,000 years ago, but I would think other islands would have formed by the lower sea-levels.

Woodie said:

SCIENCE said:

Continence Is Temporary

Then what is incontinence?

Bye bye love, hello emptiness

PermeateFree said:

captain_spalding said:

PermeateFree said:

Most islands are only temporary structures dependent of current water levels that can vary via sea-level change or drought, so best not to be too pedantic.

Come to that, ‘continents’ are temporary thing, in the much longer run of events.

Once all part of a single super-continent, and maybe one day back to being that again.

Well most of what we call islands around Australia were connected to the mainland less than 20,000 years ago, but I would think other islands would have formed by the lower sea-levels.

nods.

dv said:

There indeed is clarity.

dv said:

Everything that arises passes away

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

Everything that arises passes away

Or
Everything that comes into being must break down.

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

Everything that arises passes away

Yeah, it all started with the Big Bang.

PermeateFree said:

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

Everything that arises passes away

Yeah, it all started with the Big Bang.

That’s a fizzer. ;)

Woodie said:

SCIENCE said:

Continence Is Temporary

Then what is incontinence?

Sadly it’s the same as excontinence¡

SCIENCE said:

Woodie said:

SCIENCE said:

Continence Is Temporary

Then what is incontinence?

Sadly it’s the same as excontinence¡

don’t bring me down

Heard a story when I was on Thursday Island, localhunter looking down his scope on a beach sees a group of small hairy people that stop , turn , look directly at him then walk into the forest.

Another story from weipa. Group of Aborigines packed in a car stop between weipa and maroon. They stop for a piss and one of them that’s taken a few steps into the forest – literally 2/3 steps, never seen again. Massive police search for him no results.

The green beam , the magic man. Beam of light falls into the ocean off Thursday Island, small star like objects follow the direction of the light in oys wake

wookiemeister said:

Another story from weipa. Group of Aborigines packed in a car stop between weipa and maroon. They stop for a piss and one of them that’s taken a few steps into the forest – literally 2/3 steps, never seen again. Massive police search for him no results.

I did the same in New Guinea. Stepped off the track for a widdle. Maybe 2-3 steps, 4 at the most.

Vegetation closed behind me. It was the ‘green wall/green fog’ effect i’d heard about.

Fortunately, i hadn’t turned, and i realised that i had only to back up, and i’d be ok. But, if someone had turned me around three times…i could still be out there.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

Another story from weipa. Group of Aborigines packed in a car stop between weipa and maroon. They stop for a piss and one of them that’s taken a few steps into the forest – literally 2/3 steps, never seen again. Massive police search for him no results.

I did the same in New Guinea. Stepped off the track for a widdle. Maybe 2-3 steps, 4 at the most.

Vegetation closed behind me. It was the ‘green wall/green fog’ effect i’d heard about.

Fortunately, i hadn’t turned, and i realised that i had only to back up, and i’d be ok. But, if someone had turned me around three times…i could still be out there.

I’ve been down that road, it’s forest but not thick bush, typically trees spread so you can easily see 50m into the bush. Despite being no more than say 4m to.the closest man he never thought to call out

Esperance, Western Australia.

105 islands from the Recherché Archipelago

One (at least?) inhabited. The largest island near Esperance is Woody Island, with an Ecotours accommodation starting at $130 a night for a couple’s tent with queen bed. It looks like cliffs around most of the waters edge, perhaps 15 metres high. Island height 122 metres above sea level. Length 2.4 km. Comes with a nude bathing bay.

Islands of the Kimberley

“a group of over 2,500 islands” Possibly on 22 of them have had biological surveys done.

At least “five native title claim groups: Balanggarra, Uunguu, Dambimangari, Mayala and Bardi Jawi”.

So that’s who I have to approach if I want to buy one to live on.

How many are inhabited? None?

The first Google Earth picture I posted earlier was of the Buccaneer Archipelago, with about 800 islands.

“The archipelago, covering over 50 square kilometres (19 sq mi). is located at the head of King Sound and is composed of islands found between King Sound and Collier Bay near Yampi Sound. The area experiences a huge tidal range, of over 12 metres”

Paleoproterozoic Statherian-age (1,600 to 1,800 million years old) sedimentary sequence of quartz sandstone, hematitic sandstone, feldspathic sandstone, siltstone, and hematitic conglomerate, the island has a rugged dissected terrain. Ridges have thin stony sandy soils.

BHP subsidiary Australian Iron & Steel commenced open-pit mining operations on Koolan and neighbouring Cockatoo Island in 1951, shipping ore on company-owned ships to Port Kembla. By 1963 it had established substantial mining operations there. The Koolan Island mine closed in 1994 after BHP had extracted 68 million tonnes of high-grade haematite ore, averaging 67% iron.

At its peak, Koolan Island had a population of 950 people and had a school, police station, recreation facilities and shops. The golf course doubled as the island’s air strip. Major rehabilitation of the island was undertaken after the mine closure, with buildings and exotic vegetation removed. Extensive replanting of native species has been undertaken.

Bill Bailey is showing us lots of scenes of many islands off the WA coast right now.

wookiemeister said:

Heard a story when I was on Thursday Island, localhunter looking down his scope on a beach sees a group of small hairy people that stop , turn , look directly at him then walk into the forest.

It’s got to be drop-bears. Unlikely to be hobbits.

mollwollfumble said:

wookiemeister said:

Heard a story when I was on Thursday Island, localhunter looking down his scope on a beach sees a group of small hairy people that stop , turn , look directly at him then walk into the forest.

It’s got to be drop-bears. Unlikely to be hobbits.

Genuine story. It was on an uninhabited island. There’s heaps of them

mollwollfumble said:

wookiemeister said:

Heard a story when I was on Thursday Island, localhunter looking down his scope on a beach sees a group of small hairy people that stop , turn , look directly at him then walk into the forest.

It’s got to be drop-bears. Unlikely to be hobbits.

not much forest.

JudgeMental said:

mollwollfumble said:

wookiemeister said:

Heard a story when I was on Thursday Island, localhunter looking down his scope on a beach sees a group of small hairy people that stop , turn , look directly at him then walk into the forest.

It’s got to be drop-bears. Unlikely to be hobbits.

not much forest.

No the nearby islands

wookiemeister said:

JudgeMental said:

mollwollfumble said:

It’s got to be drop-bears. Unlikely to be hobbits.

not much forest.

No the nearby islands

Go in winter or its too hot

wookiemeister said:

wookiemeister said:

JudgeMental said:

not much forest.

No the nearby islands

Go in winter or its too hot

Rubbish!