Date: 20/11/2023 10:06:46
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2096004
Subject: Who runs the USA? J Edgar Hoover

I asked “who runs the USA?” earlier.

Now my attention has shifted to J Edgar Hoover. Former head of the FBI.
Not to be confused with the unrelated Herbert Hoover, president.

Could the personal corruption of J Edgar Hoover explain a lot about the USA as it was, and even continues to be?

Got any opinions?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover

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Date: 20/11/2023 10:52:23
From: dv
ID: 2096009
Subject: re: Who runs the USA? J Edgar Hoover

I mean sure, it’s in the mix

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Date: 23/11/2023 21:38:50
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2097018
Subject: re: Who runs the USA? J Edgar Hoover

eventually the intelligence agencies overthrow governments, any government.

intelligence agencies are given the power and money to watch and extort politicians in democracies

epstein island was a mossad/ yank intelligence honey pot operation to snare the worlds most powerful people. epstein claimed to be some business person yet strangely no one could say exactly what he did to get all his money.

cyril smith was an MP run by MI5 , he did what he was told, voted the right way. he was a child molestor and if you go looking you’ll find first hand testimony of his horrific crimes. MI5 and british intelligence will deliberately run candidates in elections with a fatal flaw – they can control them.

it was the cold war made the secret police incredibly powerful in the west in the same way in the soviet union. with the fall of the soviet union it wasn’t too long until putin ex KGB turned up to run the show, george bush once ran the CIA – the CIA put their own candidate into power. times of instability are created by the security services to make their governments weak – weak governments are too bust to find out where billions / trillions of dollars are disappearing to. seen albo making all those kind of weird judgement calls? ever wondered why? if you see any government/ MP making weird and crazy decisions its most likely a hidden hand – they can’t refuse, they have too much to lose, when they are done they retire and their crimes remain relatively hidden ( the british police and one man responsible for taking the accusations against certain people, this accusation / statement would disappear into MI5 and never would be mentioned again).

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