Date: 20/12/2023 12:00:15
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2104839
Subject: Australian women politicians

I call myself a non-political person.
So when I was asked who were Australia’s best and worst women politicians past, present and future I was a bit flummoxed. And thought of the forum.

Any opinions on:
Cheryl Kernot
Penny Wong
Amanda Vanstone
Pauline Hanson
Bronwyn Bishop
Tanya Plibersek
Lidia Thorpe
others?

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Date: 20/12/2023 12:12:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 2104845
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

mollwollfumble said:


I call myself a non-political person.
So when I was asked who were Australia’s best and worst women politicians past, present and future I was a bit flummoxed. And thought of the forum.

Any opinions on:
Cheryl Kernot
Penny Wong
Amanda Vanstone
Pauline Hanson
Bronwyn Bishop
Tanya Plibersek
Lidia Thorpe
others?

Out of that bag, Penny is the best.

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Date: 20/12/2023 12:20:47
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2104855
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

mollwollfumble said:


I call myself a non-political person.
So when I was asked who were Australia’s best and worst women politicians past, present and future I was a bit flummoxed. And thought of the forum.

Any opinions on:
Cheryl Kernot
Penny Wong
Amanda Vanstone
Pauline Hanson
Bronwyn Bishop
Tanya Plibersek
Lidia Thorpe
others?

Bronwyn Bishop is no longer in politics.
Cheryl Kernot is also no longer in politics.
Pauline Hanson is not fit for office.
Lidia Thorpe is a loose cannon.
Amanda Vanstone is chubby.
Penny Wong is very intelligent.
Tanya Plibersek is also very intelligent.

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Date: 20/12/2023 12:51:44
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2104881
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

mollwollfumble said:


I call myself a non-political person.
So when I was asked who were Australia’s best and worst women politicians past, present and future I was a bit flummoxed. And thought of the forum.

Any opinions on:
Cheryl Kernot
Penny Wong
Amanda Vanstone
Pauline Hanson
Bronwyn Bishop
Tanya Plibersek
Lidia Thorpe
others?

troll.

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Date: 20/12/2023 13:00:15
From: Tamb
ID: 2104886
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

sarahs mum said:


mollwollfumble said:

I call myself a non-political person.
So when I was asked who were Australia’s best and worst women politicians past, present and future I was a bit flummoxed. And thought of the forum.

Any opinions on:
Cheryl Kernot
Penny Wong
Amanda Vanstone
Pauline Hanson
Bronwyn Bishop
Tanya Plibersek
Lidia Thorpe
others?

troll.

Joh’s missus Flo.

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Date: 20/12/2023 13:52:30
From: Cymek
ID: 2104934
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

I call myself a non-political person.
So when I was asked who were Australia’s best and worst women politicians past, present and future I was a bit flummoxed. And thought of the forum.

Any opinions on:
Cheryl Kernot
Penny Wong
Amanda Vanstone
Pauline Hanson
Bronwyn Bishop
Tanya Plibersek
Lidia Thorpe
others?

Out of that bag, Penny is the best.

Two of her would be even better

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Date: 20/12/2023 14:45:18
From: dv
ID: 2104943
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Why would you call yourself a non-political person? Seems disingenuous.

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Date: 20/12/2023 14:48:36
From: Cymek
ID: 2104945
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

dv said:


Why would you call yourself a non-political person? Seems disingenuous.

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Date: 20/12/2023 15:23:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 2104963
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

sarahs mum said:


mollwollfumble said:

I call myself a non-political person.
So when I was asked who were Australia’s best and worst women politicians past, present and future I was a bit flummoxed. And thought of the forum.

Any opinions on:
Cheryl Kernot
Penny Wong
Amanda Vanstone
Pauline Hanson
Bronwyn Bishop
Tanya Plibersek
Lidia Thorpe
others?

troll.

Well yeah.

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Date: 20/12/2023 15:32:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 2104971
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

I call myself a non-political person.
So when I was asked who were Australia’s best and worst women politicians past, present and future I was a bit flummoxed. And thought of the forum.

Any opinions on:
Cheryl Kernot
Penny Wong
Amanda Vanstone
Pauline Hanson
Bronwyn Bishop
Tanya Plibersek
Lidia Thorpe
others?

Out of that bag, Penny is the best.

Two of her would be even better

We live in hope.

I have nothing against women in the position. It is more like we need the women who stand out, to stand out. Not the yes girls that the boys pick.

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Date: 20/12/2023 15:33:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 2104973
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

dv said:


Why would you call yourself a non-political person? Seems disingenuous.

A non-political person would not need to post this thread.

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Date: 20/12/2023 15:42:07
From: Cymek
ID: 2104977
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Out of that bag, Penny is the best.

Two of her would be even better

We live in hope.

I have nothing against women in the position. It is more like we need the women who stand out, to stand out. Not the yes girls that the boys pick.

Also wonder if they have to act like old school boys club men to get anywhere and compromise themselves

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Date: 20/12/2023 15:43:25
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2104978
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Tau.Neutrino said:


mollwollfumble said:

I call myself a non-political person.
So when I was asked who were Australia’s best and worst women politicians past, present and future I was a bit flummoxed. And thought of the forum.

Any opinions on:
Cheryl Kernot
Penny Wong
Amanda Vanstone
Pauline Hanson
Bronwyn Bishop
Tanya Plibersek
Lidia Thorpe
others?

Bronwyn Bishop is no longer in politics.
Cheryl Kernot is also no longer in politics.
Pauline Hanson is not fit for office.
Lidia Thorpe is a loose cannon.
Amanda Vanstone is chubby.
Penny Wong is very intelligent.
Tanya Plibersek is also very intelligent.

Thanks. That just about agrees with what I thought.
I would have voted for Cheryl if she had been up for the PMs job.
I was never able to make up my mind about Amanda Vanstone.

My personal opinion is that Penny and Tanya would both have made better prime ministers than Albanese. I didn’t vote for Albanese – intelligence of a guinea pig.

What about other Australian women politicians? Jackie Lambie is the only one I can think of.

> Why would you call yourself a non-political person? Seems disingenuous.

Thank you. Uh, what does disingenuous mean?

I call myself non-political because:

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Date: 20/12/2023 15:45:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 2104982
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Two of her would be even better

We live in hope.

I have nothing against women in the position. It is more like we need the women who stand out, to stand out. Not the yes girls that the boys pick.

Also wonder if they have to act like old school boys club men to get anywhere and compromise themselves

It seems to be unbreakable glass in that ceiling.

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Date: 20/12/2023 18:20:33
From: buffy
ID: 2105053
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

mollwollfumble said:


I call myself a non-political person.
So when I was asked who were Australia’s best and worst women politicians past, present and future I was a bit flummoxed. And thought of the forum.

Any opinions on:
Cheryl Kernot
Penny Wong
Amanda Vanstone
Pauline Hanson
Bronwyn Bishop
Tanya Plibersek
Lidia Thorpe
others?

Your forgot Michaelia and Sussan on that list…

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Date: 20/12/2023 18:22:06
From: dv
ID: 2105055
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Kind of weird to omit the only PM but okay.

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Date: 20/12/2023 20:57:37
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2105127
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Penny Wong : chinese intelligence asset

Amanda Vanstone: rubber stamps an Italian Mafia boss into Australia after 100,000 is deposited into a liberal party election campaign. The AFP strangely finds nothing wrong with this. The Italian police contacted them warning them – just like the Iranian police warned the AFP about the chocolate shop terrorist.

Pauline Hanson : a truly fragrant breath of fresh air in a stagnant and corrupt political system. Inspirational.

Bronwyn Bishop: bronny copter.

Tanya Plibersek: mean girl/ political hack that’s part and parcel of labor policy.

Lidia Thorpe: needs professional help / part time bike Moll

Julie Bishop : codename “Skeletor”, enjoys the limelight of being a woman in politics and breaking glass ceilings. Can’t hold on to a man.

Julia ex PM: never elected , was shoe horned into the position. Funny ears. Political highlight: losing her shoe.
others?

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Date: 20/12/2023 21:10:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2105130
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

wookiemeister said:


Penny Wong : chinese intelligence asset

Amanda Vanstone: rubber stamps an Italian Mafia boss into Australia after 100,000 is deposited into a liberal party election campaign. The AFP strangely finds nothing wrong with this. The Italian police contacted them warning them – just like the Iranian police warned the AFP about the chocolate shop terrorist.

Pauline Hanson : a truly fragrant breath of fresh air in a stagnant and corrupt political system. Inspirational.

Bronwyn Bishop: bronny copter.

Tanya Plibersek: mean girl/ political hack that’s part and parcel of labor policy.

Lidia Thorpe: needs professional help / part time bike Moll

Julie Bishop : codename “Skeletor”, enjoys the limelight of being a woman in politics and breaking glass ceilings. Can’t hold on to a man.

Julia ex PM: never elected , was shoe horned into the position. Funny ears. Political highlight: losing her shoe.
others?

go away.

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Date: 20/12/2023 23:19:46
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2105161
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

mollwollfumble said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

I call myself a non-political person.
So when I was asked who were Australia’s best and worst women politicians past, present and future I was a bit flummoxed. And thought of the forum.

Any opinions on:
Cheryl Kernot
Penny Wong
Amanda Vanstone
Pauline Hanson
Bronwyn Bishop
Tanya Plibersek
Lidia Thorpe
others?

Bronwyn Bishop is no longer in politics.
Cheryl Kernot is also no longer in politics.
Pauline Hanson is not fit for office.
Lidia Thorpe is a loose cannon.
Amanda Vanstone is chubby.
Penny Wong is very intelligent.
Tanya Plibersek is also very intelligent.

Thanks. That just about agrees with what I thought.
I would have voted for Cheryl if she had been up for the PMs job.
I was never able to make up my mind about Amanda Vanstone.

My personal opinion is that Penny and Tanya would both have made better prime ministers than Albanese. I didn’t vote for Albanese – intelligence of a guinea pig.

What about other Australian women politicians? Jackie Lambie is the only one I can think of.

> Why would you call yourself a non-political person? Seems disingenuous.

Thank you. Uh, what does disingenuous mean?

I call myself non-political because:

  • I vote for policies not people.
  • I have no interest in political football.
  • I hear as little about politics as I possibly can.
  • I don’t know the names of any state premiers, and haven’t cared since the days of Dunstan, Wran, Kennett and Bjelke-.
  • I have an inherent dislike for all political activism, no matter what the topic.
  • I believe that the country would run more smoothly without any politicians.


Amanda is ok, does her job.

Jackie is still a bit rough around the edges but is there for her electorate.

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Date: 21/12/2023 07:00:52
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2105197
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

wookiemeister said:


Penny Wong : chinese intelligence asset

Amanda Vanstone: rubber stamps an Italian Mafia boss into Australia after 100,000 is deposited into a liberal party election campaign. The AFP strangely finds nothing wrong with this. The Italian police contacted them warning them – just like the Iranian police warned the AFP about the chocolate shop terrorist.

Pauline Hanson : a truly fragrant breath of fresh air in a stagnant and corrupt political system. Inspirational.

Bronwyn Bishop: bronny copter.

Tanya Plibersek: mean girl/ political hack that’s part and parcel of labor policy.

Lidia Thorpe: needs professional help / part time bike Moll

Julie Bishop : codename “Skeletor”, enjoys the limelight of being a woman in politics and breaking glass ceilings. Can’t hold on to a man.

Julia ex PM: never elected , was shoe horned into the position. Funny ears. Political highlight: losing her shoe.
others?

Excellent. That’s the sort of unbiased opinion I was hoping for. :-)

Thanks muchly for reminding me of our backstabbing PM. What was her name again?

What the heck is a “bronny copter”.

I’m beginning to come around to the opinion that the sole purpose of politics is to provide employment for politicians. A bit like pure science in that respect.

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Date: 21/12/2023 07:12:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 2105203
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

mollwollfumble said:


wookiemeister said:

Penny Wong : chinese intelligence asset

Amanda Vanstone: rubber stamps an Italian Mafia boss into Australia after 100,000 is deposited into a liberal party election campaign. The AFP strangely finds nothing wrong with this. The Italian police contacted them warning them – just like the Iranian police warned the AFP about the chocolate shop terrorist.

Pauline Hanson : a truly fragrant breath of fresh air in a stagnant and corrupt political system. Inspirational.

Bronwyn Bishop: bronny copter.

Tanya Plibersek: mean girl/ political hack that’s part and parcel of labor policy.

Lidia Thorpe: needs professional help / part time bike Moll

Julie Bishop : codename “Skeletor”, enjoys the limelight of being a woman in politics and breaking glass ceilings. Can’t hold on to a man.

Julia ex PM: never elected , was shoe horned into the position. Funny ears. Political highlight: losing her shoe.
others?

Excellent. That’s the sort of unbiased opinion I was hoping for. :-)

Thanks muchly for reminding me of our backstabbing PM. What was her name again?

What the heck is a “bronny copter”.

I’m beginning to come around to the opinion that the sole purpose of politics is to provide employment for politicians. A bit like pure science in that respect.

You live iin Melbourne and don’t know about the bronny copter issue?

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:04:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2105220
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

mollwollfumble said:


Excellent. That’s the sort of unbiased opinion I was hoping for. :-)

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:12:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 2105222
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

Excellent. That’s the sort of unbiased opinion I was hoping for. :-)

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

+1.

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:13:02
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2105224
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

Excellent. That’s the sort of unbiased opinion I was hoping for. :-)

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

Just sometimes?

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:14:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2105225
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Witty Rejoinder said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Excellent. That’s the sort of unbiased opinion I was hoping for. :-)

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

Just sometimes?

Absolutely.

Most of the time I enjoy reading moll’s stuff, even if I don’t agree with it.

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:16:28
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2105226
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

Excellent. That’s the sort of unbiased opinion I was hoping for. :-)

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

I thought that was my job.

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:17:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 2105227
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Excellent. That’s the sort of unbiased opinion I was hoping for. :-)

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

I thought that was my job.

If so you have been falling down on the job. ;)

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:19:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2105228
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Excellent. That’s the sort of unbiased opinion I was hoping for. :-)

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

I thought that was my job.

If it is you really need to try harder.

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:20:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 2105230
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

I thought that was my job.

If it is you really need to try harder.

:)

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:30:54
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2105232
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

The Rev Dodgson said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

Just sometimes?

Absolutely.

Most of the time I enjoy reading moll’s stuff, even if I don’t agree with it.

Given Moll’s complete ignorance of politics, history etc I find myself questioning whether the science he posts is equally suspect of being just stuff that he has made up. Unfortunately I cannot judge alone whether the hard science he promulgates is wrong but I have my suspicions based on his posts on COVID science which have been plainly erroneous.

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:33:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 2105233
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Witty Rejoinder said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Just sometimes?

Absolutely.

Most of the time I enjoy reading moll’s stuff, even if I don’t agree with it.

Given Moll’s complete ignorance of politics, history etc I find myself questioning whether the science he posts is equally suspect of being just stuff that he has made up. Unfortunately I cannot judge alone whether the hard science he promulgates is wrong but I have my suspicions based on his posts on COVID science which have been plainly erroneous.

Ask him about fluid dynamics and he may start to make sense.

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:35:57
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2105237
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

roughbarked said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Absolutely.

Most of the time I enjoy reading moll’s stuff, even if I don’t agree with it.

Given Moll’s complete ignorance of politics, history etc I find myself questioning whether the science he posts is equally suspect of being just stuff that he has made up. Unfortunately I cannot judge alone whether the hard science he promulgates is wrong but I have my suspicions based on his posts on COVID science which have been plainly erroneous.

Ask him about fluid dynamics and he may start to make sense.

Yeah. I think of him as being a mathematical vacuum cleaner: best kept under the stairs until one needs something calculated.

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:51:05
From: Michael V
ID: 2105241
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Excellent. That’s the sort of unbiased opinion I was hoping for. :-)

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

I thought that was my job.

I’ve read your statement of duties. Nothing about unutterable stupidity. Plenty about extremely cynical and funny. Most of the time you seem to keep well to your statement of duties.

:)

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:53:05
From: Michael V
ID: 2105243
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Given Moll’s complete ignorance of politics, history etc I find myself questioning whether the science he posts is equally suspect of being just stuff that he has made up. Unfortunately I cannot judge alone whether the hard science he promulgates is wrong but I have my suspicions based on his posts on COVID science which have been plainly erroneous.

Ask him about fluid dynamics and he may start to make sense.

Yeah. I think of him as being a mathematical vacuum cleaner: best kept under the stairs until one needs something calculated.

Ha!

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Date: 21/12/2023 08:58:31
From: Michael V
ID: 2105244
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Witty Rejoinder said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Just sometimes?

Absolutely.

Most of the time I enjoy reading moll’s stuff, even if I don’t agree with it.

Given Moll’s complete ignorance of politics, history etc I find myself questioning whether the science he posts is equally suspect of being just stuff that he has made up. Unfortunately I cannot judge alone whether the hard science he promulgates is wrong but I have my suspicions based on his posts on COVID science which have been plainly erroneous.

IIRC, his job at CSIRO was (in part) to have outlandish ideas, somewhat modelled on the regular Daedalus column in Nature. Others would determine whether or not those ideas would be researched.

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Date: 21/12/2023 09:06:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2105249
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Absolutely.

Most of the time I enjoy reading moll’s stuff, even if I don’t agree with it.

Given Moll’s complete ignorance of politics, history etc I find myself questioning whether the science he posts is equally suspect of being just stuff that he has made up. Unfortunately I cannot judge alone whether the hard science he promulgates is wrong but I have my suspicions based on his posts on COVID science which have been plainly erroneous.

IIRC, his job at CSIRO was (in part) to have outlandish ideas, somewhat modelled on the regular Daedalus column in Nature. Others would determine whether or not those ideas would be researched.

Makes sense.

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Date: 21/12/2023 09:06:29
From: Michael V
ID: 2105250
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Absolutely.

Most of the time I enjoy reading moll’s stuff, even if I don’t agree with it.

Given Moll’s complete ignorance of politics, history etc I find myself questioning whether the science he posts is equally suspect of being just stuff that he has made up. Unfortunately I cannot judge alone whether the hard science he promulgates is wrong but I have my suspicions based on his posts on COVID science which have been plainly erroneous.

IIRC, his job at CSIRO was (in part) to have outlandish ideas, somewhat modelled on the regular Daedalus column in Nature. Others would determine whether or not those ideas would be researched.

Daedalus:

https://improbable.com/2017/07/27/sad-news-daedalus-david-jones-is-gone/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_E._H._Jones

https://www.google.com/search?q=daedalus+nature&sca_esv=592634044&sxsrf=AM9HkKlGC3TpfcU780D7yeDkCmb_vWUC8w%3A1703109333358&ei=1WKDZdjAFZX04-EPpruUmAo&ved=0ahUKEwiY_8_WgJ-DAxUV-jgGHaYdBaMQ4dUDCBA&oq=daedalus+nature&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiD2RhZWRhbHVzIG5hdHVyZTIFECEYoAFI-jtQnBRY_iFwAXgBkAEAmAGGAqABxQyqAQMyLTe4AQzIAQD4AQHCAgoQABhHGNYEGLADwgINEAAYgAQYigUYQxiwA8ICDhAAGOQCGNYEGLAD2AEBwgITEC4YgAQYigUYQxjIAxiwA9gBAsICFhAuGIAEGIoFGEMY1AIYyAMYsAPYAQLCAhkQLhiABBiKBRhDGMcBGNEDGMgDGLAD2AECwgIKEAAYgAQYigUYQ8ICEBAuGIAEGIoFGEMYxwEY0QPCAgUQABiABMICCxAAGIAEGIoFGJECwgIKEAAYgAQYFBiHAsICCBAAGBYYHhgPwgIGEAAYFhgewgILEAAYgAQYigUYhgPCAgcQIRigARgK4gMEGAAgQYgGAZAGEroGBggBEAEYCboGBggCEAEYCA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

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Date: 21/12/2023 09:10:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2105252
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Given Moll’s complete ignorance of politics, history etc I find myself questioning whether the science he posts is equally suspect of being just stuff that he has made up. Unfortunately I cannot judge alone whether the hard science he promulgates is wrong but I have my suspicions based on his posts on COVID science which have been plainly erroneous.

IIRC, his job at CSIRO was (in part) to have outlandish ideas, somewhat modelled on the regular Daedalus column in Nature. Others would determine whether or not those ideas would be researched.

Daedalus:

https://improbable.com/2017/07/27/sad-news-daedalus-david-jones-is-gone/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_E._H._Jones

https://www.google.com/search?q=daedalus+nature&sca_esv=592634044&sxsrf=AM9HkKlGC3TpfcU780D7yeDkCmb_vWUC8w%3A1703109333358&ei=1WKDZdjAFZX04-EPpruUmAo&ved=0ahUKEwiY_8_WgJ-DAxUV-jgGHaYdBaMQ4dUDCBA&oq=daedalus+nature&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiD2RhZWRhbHVzIG5hdHVyZTIFECEYoAFI-jtQnBRY_iFwAXgBkAEAmAGGAqABxQyqAQMyLTe4AQzIAQD4AQHCAgoQABhHGNYEGLADwgINEAAYgAQYigUYQxiwA8ICDhAAGOQCGNYEGLAD2AEBwgITEC4YgAQYigUYQxjIAxiwA9gBAsICFhAuGIAEGIoFGEMY1AIYyAMYsAPYAQLCAhkQLhiABBiKBRhDGMcBGNEDGMgDGLAD2AECwgIKEAAYgAQYigUYQ8ICEBAuGIAEGIoFGEMYxwEY0QPCAgUQABiABMICCxAAGIAEGIoFGJECwgIKEAAYgAQYFBiHAsICCBAAGBYYHhgPwgIGEAAYFhgewgILEAAYgAQYigUYhgPCAgcQIRigARgK4gMEGAAgQYgGAZAGEroGBggBEAEYCboGBggCEAEYCA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

I’m not typing that in.

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Date: 21/12/2023 09:11:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2105253
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Given Moll’s complete ignorance of politics, history etc I find myself questioning whether the science he posts is equally suspect of being just stuff that he has made up. Unfortunately I cannot judge alone whether the hard science he promulgates is wrong but I have my suspicions based on his posts on COVID science which have been plainly erroneous.

IIRC, his job at CSIRO was (in part) to have outlandish ideas, somewhat modelled on the regular Daedalus column in Nature. Others would determine whether or not those ideas would be researched.

Daedalus:

https://improbable.com/2017/07/27/sad-news-daedalus-david-jones-is-gone/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_E._H._Jones

https://www.google.com/search?q=daedalus+nature&sca_esv=592634044&sxsrf=AM9HkKlGC3TpfcU780D7yeDkCmb_vWUC8w%3A1703109333358&ei=1WKDZdjAFZX04-EPpruUmAo&ved=0ahUKEwiY_8_WgJ-DAxUV-jgGHaYdBaMQ4dUDCBA&oq=daedalus+nature&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiD2RhZWRhbHVzIG5hdHVyZTIFECEYoAFI-jtQnBRY_iFwAXgBkAEAmAGGAqABxQyqAQMyLTe4AQzIAQD4AQHCAgoQABhHGNYEGLADwgINEAAYgAQYigUYQxiwA8ICDhAAGOQCGNYEGLAD2AEBwgITEC4YgAQYigUYQxjIAxiwA9gBAsICFhAuGIAEGIoFGEMY1AIYyAMYsAPYAQLCAhkQLhiABBiKBRhDGMcBGNEDGMgDGLAD2AECwgIKEAAYgAQYigUYQ8ICEBAuGIAEGIoFGEMYxwEY0QPCAgUQABiABMICCxAAGIAEGIoFGJECwgIKEAAYgAQYFBiHAsICCBAAGBYYHhgPwgIGEAAYFhgewgILEAAYgAQYigUYhgPCAgcQIRigARgK4gMEGAAgQYgGAZAGEroGBggBEAEYCboGBggCEAEYCA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

If you want ‘improbable inventions’, just browse through all of the old issues of ‘Popular Science’:

https://books.google.co.uk/books/serial/ISSN:01617370?rview=1

There’s pages and pages of them, going back over 100 years.

In just about every issue you’ll find:

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Date: 21/12/2023 09:34:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2105262
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Michael V said:

IIRC, his job at CSIRO was (in part) to have outlandish ideas, somewhat modelled on the regular Daedalus column in Nature. Others would determine whether or not those ideas would be researched.

Daedalus:

https://improbable.com/2017/07/27/sad-news-daedalus-david-jones-is-gone/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_E._H._Jones

https://www.google.com/search?q=daedalus+nature&sca_esv=592634044&sxsrf=AM9HkKlGC3TpfcU780D7yeDkCmb_vWUC8w%3A1703109333358&ei=1WKDZdjAFZX04-EPpruUmAo&ved=0ahUKEwiY_8_WgJ-DAxUV-jgGHaYdBaMQ4dUDCBA&oq=daedalus+nature&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiD2RhZWRhbHVzIG5hdHVyZTIFECEYoAFI-jtQnBRY_iFwAXgBkAEAmAGGAqABxQyqAQMyLTe4AQzIAQD4AQHCAgoQABhHGNYEGLADwgINEAAYgAQYigUYQxiwA8ICDhAAGOQCGNYEGLAD2AEBwgITEC4YgAQYigUYQxjIAxiwA9gBAsICFhAuGIAEGIoFGEMY1AIYyAMYsAPYAQLCAhkQLhiABBiKBRhDGMcBGNEDGMgDGLAD2AECwgIKEAAYgAQYigUYQ8ICEBAuGIAEGIoFGEMYxwEY0QPCAgUQABiABMICCxAAGIAEGIoFGJECwgIKEAAYgAQYFBiHAsICCBAAGBYYHhgPwgIGEAAYFhgewgILEAAYgAQYigUYhgPCAgcQIRigARgK4gMEGAAgQYgGAZAGEroGBggBEAEYCboGBggCEAEYCA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

I’m not typing that in.

The Wikipedia link is well worth a read.

I know him from his back page articles in New Scientist, many years ago, which were full of pure genius, every one.

Sadly his replacement at NS, although occasionally amusing, is no match.

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Date: 21/12/2023 10:32:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2105288
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Amanda Vanstone is no longer in parliament having left in 2007.

She is now a political commentator.

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Date: 21/12/2023 10:33:55
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2105292
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Tau.Neutrino said:


Amanda Vanstone is no longer in parliament having left in 2007.

She is now a political commentator.

Everyone’s a political commentator. It’s just that there’s someone silly enough to give her money for it.

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Date: 21/12/2023 10:36:23
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2105295
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

captain_spalding said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Amanda Vanstone is no longer in parliament having left in 2007.

She is now a political commentator.

Everyone’s a political commentator. It’s just that there’s someone silly enough to give her money for it.

She’s on the electric wireless every Monday afternoon, on ABC, so we all do.

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Date: 21/12/2023 10:37:29
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2105296
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Amanda Vanstone is no longer in parliament having left in 2007.

She is now a political commentator.

Everyone’s a political commentator. It’s just that there’s someone silly enough to give her money for it.

She’s on the electric wireless every Monday afternoon, on ABC, so we all do.

Yes, the Great Australian Electorate would be silly enough.

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Date: 21/12/2023 10:59:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2105297
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

I like Penny Wong, we could have more people like her.

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Date: 21/12/2023 11:27:30
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2105307
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Witty Rejoinder said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Excellent. That’s the sort of unbiased opinion I was hoping for. :-)

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

Just sometimes?

Some people don’t recognise sarcasm.

PS. Intelligence and stupidity are not opposites. Plenty of both in my Good Scientist Cartoon.

Who are Michaela and Sussan?

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Date: 21/12/2023 12:08:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 2105317
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Tau.Neutrino said:


I like Penny Wong, we could have more people like her.

Indeed.

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Date: 21/12/2023 12:09:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 2105318
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

mollwollfumble said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

Just sometimes?

Some people don’t recognise sarcasm.

PS. Intelligence and stupidity are not opposites. Plenty of both in my Good Scientist Cartoon.

Who are Michaela and Sussan?

Michaela Cash.

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Date: 21/12/2023 12:26:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 2105340
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Amanda Vanstone is no longer in parliament having left in 2007.

She is now a political commentator.

Everyone’s a political commentator. It’s just that there’s someone silly enough to give her money for it.

She’s on the electric wireless every Monday afternoon, on ABC, so we all do.

Might be paying her but I’m not getting anything for my money.

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Date: 21/12/2023 12:47:24
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2105375
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

mollwollfumble said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Sometimes you say stuff of such unutterable stupidity it is beyond belief.

Just sometimes?

Some people don’t recognise sarcasm.

PS. Intelligence and stupidity are not opposites. Plenty of both in my Good Scientist Cartoon.

Who are Michaela and Sussan?

If it was sarcasm I apologise and I agree with your sentiment entirely.

Cash and Ley.

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Date: 21/12/2023 12:49:25
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2105376
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Just sometimes?

Some people don’t recognise sarcasm.

PS. Intelligence and stupidity are not opposites. Plenty of both in my Good Scientist Cartoon.

Who are Michaela and Sussan?

If it was sarcasm I apologise and I agree with your sentiment entirely.

Cash and Ley.

it isn’t sarcasm, and I should know.

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Date: 21/12/2023 12:50:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2105377
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Some people don’t recognise sarcasm.

PS. Intelligence and stupidity are not opposites. Plenty of both in my Good Scientist Cartoon.

Who are Michaela and Sussan?

If it was sarcasm I apologise and I agree with your sentiment entirely.

Cash and Ley.

it isn’t sarcasm, and I should know.

Yeah, right, you’d know, for sure.

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Date: 21/12/2023 13:02:09
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2105388
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

If it was sarcasm I apologise and I agree with your sentiment entirely.

Cash and Ley.

it isn’t sarcasm, and I should know.

Yeah, right, you’d know, for sure.

Come on you two, we’ve had enough sarcasm for today.

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Date: 21/12/2023 13:04:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 2105389
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Just sometimes?

Some people don’t recognise sarcasm.

PS. Intelligence and stupidity are not opposites. Plenty of both in my Good Scientist Cartoon.

Who are Michaela and Sussan?

If it was sarcasm I apologise and I agree with your sentiment entirely.

Cash and Ley.

Ley leads my electorate.

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Date: 21/12/2023 13:05:56
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2105390
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Some people don’t recognise sarcasm.

PS. Intelligence and stupidity are not opposites. Plenty of both in my Good Scientist Cartoon.

Who are Michaela and Sussan?

If it was sarcasm I apologise and I agree with your sentiment entirely.

Cash and Ley.

Ley leads my electorate.

I was feeling a bit of a mollwollfumble this morning because I had to look up who Sussan was.

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Date: 21/12/2023 13:08:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 2105394
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

If it was sarcasm I apologise and I agree with your sentiment entirely.

Cash and Ley.

Ley leads my electorate.

I was feeling a bit of a mollwollfumble this morning because I had to look up who Sussan was.

I couldn’t remember a Sussan because they pronounce it Susan.

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Date: 21/12/2023 19:06:28
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2105657
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

“They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern . You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.”

Yuri bezmenov

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Date: 22/12/2023 15:52:23
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2105971
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Ley leads my electorate.

I was feeling a bit of a mollwollfumble this morning because I had to look up who Sussan was.

I couldn’t remember a Sussan because they pronounce it Susan.

Michaelia Cash
Party: Liberal Party of Australia
Office: Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Australian Senate since 2022

Sussan Ley
Party: Liberal Party of Australian
Office: Deputy Leader of the Opposition since May 2022.

They’re the same person?

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Date: 22/12/2023 16:00:31
From: party_pants
ID: 2105974
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I was feeling a bit of a mollwollfumble this morning because I had to look up who Sussan was.

I couldn’t remember a Sussan because they pronounce it Susan.

Michaelia Cash
Party: Liberal Party of Australia
Office: Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Australian Senate since 2022

Sussan Ley
Party: Liberal Party of Australian
Office: Deputy Leader of the Opposition since May 2022.

They’re the same person?

No, they just the same airbrush artist to touch up their photos.

One sits in the Senate, and the other in the House of Reps.

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Date: 29/12/2023 14:15:43
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2108151
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Just spotted bronwyn Bishop at Dubbo zoo

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Date: 29/12/2023 14:18:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2108155
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

wookiemeister said:


Just spotted bronwyn Bishop at Dubbo zoo

which exhibit was she in?

ooo.

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Date: 29/12/2023 14:19:00
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2108156
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

sarahs mum said:


wookiemeister said:

Just spotted bronwyn Bishop at Dubbo zoo

which exhibit was she in?

ooo.


Outside the lion enclosure

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Date: 29/12/2023 14:22:32
From: Cymek
ID: 2108162
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

wookiemeister said:


sarahs mum said:

wookiemeister said:

Just spotted bronwyn Bishop at Dubbo zoo

which exhibit was she in?

ooo.


Outside the lion enclosure

The lions were shitting themselves I bet

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Date: 29/12/2023 14:28:27
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2108169
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Cymek said:


wookiemeister said:

sarahs mum said:

which exhibit was she in?

ooo.


Outside the lion enclosure

The lions were shitting themselves I bet


Stick with me and you’ll see the stars

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Date: 29/12/2023 14:36:12
From: dv
ID: 2108173
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

I had grave misgivings about Gillard’s election-eve replacement of Rudd. I think he would have won the election, and the swap was bad for the Labor brand. Nonetheless Gillard was a very capable prime minister, achieving more in a single term than anyone since Whitlam, despite dealing with a minority government.

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Date: 29/12/2023 14:38:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2108176
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

dv said:


I had grave misgivings about Gillard’s election-eve replacement of Rudd. I think he would have won the election, and the swap was bad for the Labor brand. Nonetheless Gillard was a very capable prime minister, achieving more in a single term than anyone since Whitlam, despite dealing with a minority government.

and she was constantly attacked with uglinesses during her term.

I still hate those people.

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Date: 29/12/2023 15:37:56
From: Neophyte
ID: 2108219
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

No love for Natasha Stott-Despoja?

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Date: 29/12/2023 18:24:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 2108286
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Neophyte said:


No love for Natasha Stott-Despoja?

I think she’s a lot better than many of the sluggard men.

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Date: 29/12/2023 18:28:41
From: Cymek
ID: 2108289
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

roughbarked said:


Neophyte said:

No love for Natasha Stott-Despoja?

I think she’s a lot better than many of the sluggard men.

Would politics attract many decent women with sound morality I wonder, its a bit of a game for the self serving

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Date: 29/12/2023 18:37:43
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2108293
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

>>Would politics attract many decent women with sound morality I wonder

Bronwyn Bishop.

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Date: 29/12/2023 18:40:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 2108294
Subject: re: Australian women politicians

Peak Warming Man said:


>>Would politics attract many decent women with sound morality I wonder

Bronwyn Bishop.

Her hairstyle had morality.

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