Date: 3/01/2024 05:47:37
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2109776
Subject: Unpopular opinions

There is a reddit called https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/. I haven’t been there yet.

Thinking on that, I quickly listed 30 unpopular opinions that I hold.

Over the entire gamut of things from Mathematics to Movies. Politics, Religion, Cosmology, Dinosaurs, Slavery, Psychology. No topic is out of bounds.

What unpopular opinions do YOU actually think are reasonable or possible?
Please don’t list opinions that you don’t agree with.

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Date: 3/01/2024 06:37:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 2109781
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

mollwollfumble said:


There is a reddit called https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/. I haven’t been there yet.

Thinking on that, I quickly listed 30 unpopular opinions that I hold.

Over the entire gamut of things from Mathematics to Movies. Politics, Religion, Cosmology, Dinosaurs, Slavery, Psychology. No topic is out of bounds.

What unpopular opinions do YOU actually think are reasonable or possible?
Please don’t list opinions that you don’t agree with.

So if it is unpopular with me I’m not allowed to say so?

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Date: 3/01/2024 07:29:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2109787
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

There is a reddit called https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/. I haven’t been there yet.

Thinking on that, I quickly listed 30 unpopular opinions that I hold.

Over the entire gamut of things from Mathematics to Movies. Politics, Religion, Cosmology, Dinosaurs, Slavery, Psychology. No topic is out of bounds.

What unpopular opinions do YOU actually think are reasonable or possible?
Please don’t list opinions that you don’t agree with.

So if it is unpopular with me I’m not allowed to say so?

No-one can stop you, but starting a separate thread, or just using one of the existing threads, might be a better option.

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Date: 3/01/2024 07:32:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2109788
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

mollwollfumble said:


There is a reddit called https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/. I haven’t been there yet.

Thinking on that, I quickly listed 30 unpopular opinions that I hold.

Over the entire gamut of things from Mathematics to Movies. Politics, Religion, Cosmology, Dinosaurs, Slavery, Psychology. No topic is out of bounds.

What unpopular opinions do YOU actually think are reasonable or possible?
Please don’t list opinions that you don’t agree with.

Cosmology:

1) There exists a meta-time, which is not relative.

2) Space doesn’t expand, rulers shrink.

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Date: 3/01/2024 16:18:10
From: party_pants
ID: 2109978
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

I think we should allow people to sell themselves into bonded labour for a fixed term.

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Date: 3/01/2024 16:21:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2109979
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

party_pants said:


I think we should allow people to sell themselves into bonded labour for a fixed term.

Many people do that for a term of 7 hours every working day.

Some even longer.

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Date: 3/01/2024 17:02:41
From: transition
ID: 2109984
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

I don’t share mine, mine are secret, that’s how I keep them mine

secrets are necessary

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Date: 3/01/2024 17:13:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2109987
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

transition said:


I don’t share mine, mine are secret, that’s how I keep them mine

secrets are necessary

That would be an unpopular opinion, so you just shared one.

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Date: 3/01/2024 17:15:53
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2109988
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

transition said:


I don’t share mine, mine are secret, that’s how I keep them mine

secrets are necessary


Mine are guarded by cerebus under my house.

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Date: 3/01/2024 17:16:46
From: transition
ID: 2109989
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

The Rev Dodgson said:


transition said:

I don’t share mine, mine are secret, that’s how I keep them mine

secrets are necessary

That would be an unpopular opinion, so you just shared one.

do you have any secret opinions

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Date: 3/01/2024 17:18:10
From: Michael V
ID: 2109990
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

wookiemeister said:


transition said:

I don’t share mine, mine are secret, that’s how I keep them mine

secrets are necessary


Mine are guarded by cerebus under my house.

Cerebus salt?

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Date: 3/01/2024 17:21:45
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2109992
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Michael V said:


wookiemeister said:

transition said:

I don’t share mine, mine are secret, that’s how I keep them mine

secrets are necessary


Mine are guarded by cerebus under my house.

Cerebus salt?


You would like that, wouldn’t you

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Date: 3/01/2024 17:23:23
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2109993
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

transition said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

I don’t share mine, mine are secret, that’s how I keep them mine

secrets are necessary

That would be an unpopular opinion, so you just shared one.

do you have any secret opinions

Not that I know of.

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Date: 3/01/2024 17:26:08
From: transition
ID: 2109994
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

The Rev Dodgson said:


transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

That would be an unpopular opinion, so you just shared one.

do you have any secret opinions

Not that I know of.

would all secret opinions you hold reveal themselves to you

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Date: 3/01/2024 18:37:43
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2110011
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

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Date: 3/01/2024 18:46:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2110016
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

transition said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

do you have any secret opinions

Not that I know of.

would all secret opinions you hold reveal themselves to you

If they didn’t, how would I know?

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Date: 3/01/2024 22:18:31
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2110113
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Enjoying the posts above.

Before posting the following list of unpopular opinions of mine, I need to include a couple of things.

Doublethink and triplethink. Although I believe the opinion below, sometimes I also believe the opposite. Or in the case of alien life, two other different and incompatible views.

If you agree with any of these then it is not an unpopular opinion and should be removed from the list. If you can prove that I’m wrong (I’m looking at you Michael V about Pluto’s ocean) please let me know and I’ll delete it also.

Unpopular opinions.

1. Disaster is entertainment. Entertainment is disaster.
2. A killed virus vaccine can be made overnight. A vaccine can be manufactured in megadose quantities in 3 months. Using the internet to get feedback on side effects, the Covid vaccine should have been available in March 2020, and updated as soon as each new variant appeared.
3. Movies. “Titanic” would be a better movie if every scene containing Leonardo Decaprio was cut. “Waterworld” should have been released with a laughter track. Movies in cinemas sound better if you wear earmuffs.
4. CO2 isn’t “pollution”, CO2 is “plant food”.
5. There are two types of people – “climate skeptics” and “photosynthesis deniers”. Photosynthesis deniers refuse to accept that increasing the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere makes every plant grow better.
6. The president of the USA doesn’t run the country any more than Zaphod Beeblebrox runs the Galaxy. Politicians are like fireflies. The two real powers in the USA are the permanent lobbyests (directly responsible for low wages, no unions, expensive healthcare, overpriced homes) and the DOD/FBI/Secret Service/CIA etc. power bloc.
7. There’s no such thing as a non-renewable resource. Mining moves resources from the lithosphere to the anthroposphere, and thereafter those resources stay in the anthroposphere forever. You don’t destroy a resource by using it, because of conservation of mass.
8. “Sustainability” is akin to “perpetual motion”. Don’t even try.
9. In mathematics, teach nonstandard analysis and throw standard analysis in the junk pile. In nonstandard analysis infinitesimals exist, dy/dx is literally dy divided by dx. Minus infinity is a number. Orders of magnitude exist. With the right definition of “limit”, every sequence and series converges and every function has a well defined value at infinity. Infinities cancel in renormalisation. There are many routes to nonstandard analysis: the transfer principle, surreal numbers, Hardy field, transseries, hyperreals, and Hahn series. The transfer principle is simple enough to teach in Primary School.
10. The most common DNA-based disease in human history is the plague, Yersinia pestis, also known as the Black Death. The plague is a sexually-transmitted disease, transmitted by pubic crabs. It’s still with us.
11. The radial distribution of Kepler planets (hot Jupiters) is identical to that of binary stars. All of the 2600 planets found by Kepler are failed stars, so were formed in a completely different way to our solar system planets, which formed by cold accretion. Neptune is the odd one out in our solar system. All the rest follow Bode’s law perfectly: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Ceres, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto, Eris. But Neptune is too big to have formed by cold accretion, so must be a failed star.
12. There are hundreds of published theories explaining ball lightning and all of them are wrong. Most can’t explain why it’s ball shaped, and the remainder can’t explain how it can pass through a window without leaving a hole. An analysis of a mark left by ball lightning in Canberra found that it was mostly made of iron and titanium.
13. “Denisovan” is a synonym of “Heidelberg Man”.
14. The Deccan traps killed the dinosaurs as shown by the high sulfur content of the K-Pg layer. The Chicxulub impactor was just coincidence. Almost all extinctions (>25 of the 34 main ones) were the result of sulfur dioxide (anoxia) from massive floods of basaltic lava.
15. T. rex was aquatic and had a similar diet to crocodiles.
16. The K-Pg extinction had no effect on mammal or bird diversification. Modern mammals and birds had already diversified before the dinosaurs went extinct. T. rex was a contemporary of early ducks and early primates.
17. “The lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. He makes me lie down in green pastures” is a terrible translation. First, the translation has 17 words and the original Hebrew has 7 words. Second, of those 7 words, three are mistranslated. A better translation is “Nature is not evil. It makes crops grow”.
18. At the time of the abolition of slavery in Jamaica, fully half of all slaves were owned by legal firms, who were running them as “deceased estates”.
19. The last fullblood Victorian aborigine died before 1971. There are fullblood aborigines there now, but they’ve all migrated in from other states.
20. “Holy” means pure, “spirit” mean energy. “Holy spirit” means enthusiasm. In the Bible, Mary became pregnant outside marriage because of her enthusiasm.
21. Votes for women had zero effect in New South Wales. The balance of power in each electorate in the first election after the introduction of votes for women was exactly the same as the balance of power in the last election before the introduction of votes for women.
22. Nessie is a mating dance of more than 10,000 normal-sized eels.
23. “Homeopathy” and “vaccination” are synonyms. Vaccination is the most successful application of homeopathy.
24. Quantum field theory contains Special relativity. Special relativity tells us that there is no such thing as simultaneous because it depends on the observer. So how can the spooky action at a distance in quantum field theory be instantaneous if there’s no such thing as simultaneous?
25. Temperature is more fundamental than you think. The universe had a temperature before it contained even one particle.
26. “Respect” is a synonym of “fear”.
27. “Sacred” is a synonym of “deadly”.
28. In the Old Testament, “priest” is a synonym of “chef”.
29. White asbestos, Chrysotile, is at least a hundred times less dangerous than blue asbestos. It’s so safe that nobody can calculate whether it poses any health risk at all. It accounts for 95% of all asbestos in the United States. Asbestos was banned partway through the construction of the Twin Towers. There was no asbestos heat proofing on the floors where the aeroplanes hit. Which is why they collapsed. The banning of asbestos may have killed nearly 3,000 people.
30. Very few chemical poisons are deadly when ingested by people who are aware that they might be poisoned and take appropriate precautions.
31. “Intelligence” and “stupidity” are not opposites. They are actually uncorrelated.
32. The Queen authorised the murder of Princess Di. But played no part in the murder of her grandfather, King George V.
33. I call “emotional intelligence” the “psychopath test”. It’s a way to ensure that your company is run by a sociopath.
34. “Immaturity” is a necessary prerequisite for marriage.
35. The true message of Christmas is that believing in a lie is financially rewarding.
36. The true message of the New Testament is that “No matter how divine, charismatic, intelligent, gifted and lucky you are, if you upset the wealthy then you will suffer a premature and painful death”. In other words, “Don’t be like Jesus”.
37. Every generation has its pet mental illness that is massively over-diagnosed. We’ve had schizophrenia, neurosis, and now autism. Most people who claim to have autism, don’t. I call the opposite of autism “social butterfy syndrome”. We’re not in an epidemic of autism, we’re in an epidemic of “social butterfy syndrome”.
38. You only use 15% of your brain.
39. Humans have a long-standing and irrational distrust of those who speak a different language. Racism has nothing to do with appearance and everything to do with language. In the USA particularly the language AAVE.
40. Recessive mutations are building up slowly but inexorably in the world population. At a rate of one or two per generation. Within the next 1,000 years this will lead to a massive worldwide increase in child mortality.
41. Geographic isolation, even undersea, creates new species. By exporting plant species and by increasing the geographic isolation of animals, humans are creating more new species than they destroy.
42. Street lighting, house lighting, and human noise is a much greater threat to wildlife than you imagine. A greater threat than climate change for example.
43. In the battle in the early 20th century over whether pure maths should be governed by proof or by usefulness, the wrong side won.
44. No animal navigates using the Earth’s magnetic field.
45. Pluto contains an ocean of liquid water that’s the same size as Earth’s global ocean. The “goldilocks zone” is a myth.
46. Miller-Urey got it right. Which means that life began on Earth much earlier than you think, when the atmosphere was still full of hydrogen.
47. Not only has SETI@home not ruled out alien life in our galaxy, it has confirmed it. But that’s useless to us because we don’t have the technology to read any of the signals. They seldom if ever come from the same direction twice so could be spaceship communications.
48. Thoretical physics died in the 1970s, only one new prediction in theoretical physics made after the year 1980 has come true.
49. Astronomy has now reached a point where it can be abandoned without loss.
50. The stepped pyramids of Africa, meso-America and SE Asia are the ultimate military defensive structures. It gives the defending force an ability to strike downwards at the attackers, and if the attacking force gains one step then the defending force just retreats one step and the attacking force will have gained nothing.
51. The Nazca lines are footrace tracks. With smaller twisted tracks for the kids and long straight tracks for the adults. The Easter Island statues may be raised seating for watching a race, the advantage of raised seating is that you can charge a fee for a boost into the seat.
52. Everything points to Stonehenge being a wrestling arena: the calendar by the front gate, the raised seating, the blood in the arena, and the buried bodies of fit young men.
53. Jealousy is the root of all anger. Own the jealousy and the anger disappears.
54. Anger is the root of all action.
55. Everything we need can be counted on the fingers of one hand: air, water, sleep, happiness, food. The absense of some a**hole trying to kill you helps, too.
56. The safest chemicals in the whole world are microplastics.
57. Dental tools. You need four. A hard bristled toothbrush. Floss in a plastic holder. An interdental brush. And a dental pick, preferably of metal.
58. Practice makes better. Talent makes good. Only genius makes perfect, genius with performance enhancing drugs.
59. In order for passive smoking to be dangerous, you have to be in a smoke-filled room every day for at least 20 years, and even then it only increases your risk of lung cancer over non-smoking by 25%.
60. Do feed the ducks.

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Date: 3/01/2024 23:43:08
From: party_pants
ID: 2110144
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

People should do more DIY medical procedures at home and stop wasting taxpeyer money for minor injuries.

:)

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Date: 4/01/2024 05:40:33
From: kii
ID: 2110167
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

party_pants said:


People should do more DIY medical procedures at home and stop wasting taxpeyer money for minor injuries.

:)

I had an interesting conversation with a woman many years ago. We were comparing the medical skills of our fathers. Her dad was Italian and was raised on a farm, similar to my father. Both went through WWII. Her father and uncles actually stitched people up in their kitchen, in Australia. Many years after the war ended. My dad just did fingernail drilling on blood clots, and pulled loose teeth – using pliers. Dad would wrap the prongs of his pliers tightly with cotton wool. Memories of standing next to the woodworking bench as he removed my loose baby teeth.

I’ve been thinking a lot about my father lately. No idea why.

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Date: 4/01/2024 07:52:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 2110180
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

kii said:


party_pants said:

People should do more DIY medical procedures at home and stop wasting taxpeyer money for minor injuries.

:)

I had an interesting conversation with a woman many years ago. We were comparing the medical skills of our fathers. Her dad was Italian and was raised on a farm, similar to my father. Both went through WWII. Her father and uncles actually stitched people up in their kitchen, in Australia. Many years after the war ended. My dad just did fingernail drilling on blood clots, and pulled loose teeth – using pliers. Dad would wrap the prongs of his pliers tightly with cotton wool. Memories of standing next to the woodworking bench as he removed my loose baby teeth.

I’ve been thinking a lot about my father lately. No idea why.

It is a good thing to remember your parents and what they said and did. Particulary such things as you have mentioned. It does tend to help us in ways we may not imagine at the time.

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Date: 5/01/2024 10:06:23
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2110591
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Another 22 unpopular opinions.

61. A rerun in the mid 1970s of the Miller-Urey experiment found self-assembled bacteria-sized double-walled vesicles in the grey goo attached to the electrode. i.e. cells formed as soon as the Earth cooled enough, long before life as we know it existed.
62. Queen Victoria never allowed any photographs to be taken of her smiling. In order to hide her Down Syndrome.
63. Each generation of Aboriginal activists hates the previous generation of Aboriginal activists.
64. The faster the speed limit, the fewer the accidents, because the roads are less crowded.
65. No speed bumps.
66. We don’t want accountability. We want openness. Accountability costs a fortune and slows everything down. Openness doesn’t.
67. At every intersection, place “yield” signs on the minor road and no signs on the major road. That way you never need “stop” signs.
68. Australia needs supersonic passenger transport.
69. Paper use in the USA kills over a million tons of trees a year. Plastic use doesn’t.
70. All cars must be designed so that an accident at 5 km/hr never causes more than $200 worth of damage.
71. The speedometer on all new cars must be accurate within 1 km/hr.
72. Travellators at airports the entire distance between the security check and the gate lounge. Travellators on all hills in the city centre. Flying fox crossings of all city centre rivers.
73. At least one parking space per bedroom for all dwellings.
74. Land shouldn’t have a price. The price of a dwelling should only be the cost of building the building. Real estate agents to have a flat fee, not a fee that increases as the house price increases.
75. Any location where the road is so narrow, for example due to parked cars, that cars can’t pass when travelling in opposite directions is a failure of the road network, and must be eliminated by road widening or off-street parking.
76. More places to sleep. In the office, at the airport, outdoors in the city, bunk beds in aircraft, for actors between scenes, for musicians between takes. Possibly hammocks?
77. All road bridge heights to be increased to stop trucks running into them.
78. Colour triangles for colourblind people (Anomalous Trichromacy) to be taught in primary school at the same time as colour triangles for normal sighted people.
79. The most important science is chemistry. The only important science is chemistry.
80. Bring back ancient systems of government – the Greek system where the president is determined by lottery – the Persian system where decisions made sober are ratified when drunk and decisions made drunk are ratified when sober.
81. Morality is a science. Bentham’s moral calculus must be taught in high school.
82. A “must teach” in high school is: Logic and identifying the misuse of logic; Statistics and identifying the misuse of statistics.

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Date: 5/01/2024 10:20:33
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2110598
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

mollwollfumble said:


Another 22 unpopular opinions.

61. A rerun in the mid 1970s of the Miller-Urey experiment found self-assembled bacteria-sized double-walled vesicles in the grey goo attached to the electrode. i.e. cells formed as soon as the Earth cooled enough, long before life as we know it existed.
62. Queen Victoria never allowed any photographs to be taken of her smiling. In order to hide her Down Syndrome.
63. Each generation of Aboriginal activists hates the previous generation of Aboriginal activists.
64. The faster the speed limit, the fewer the accidents, because the roads are less crowded.
65. No speed bumps.
66. We don’t want accountability. We want openness. Accountability costs a fortune and slows everything down. Openness doesn’t.
67. At every intersection, place “yield” signs on the minor road and no signs on the major road. That way you never need “stop” signs.
68. Australia needs supersonic passenger transport.
69. Paper use in the USA kills over a million tons of trees a year. Plastic use doesn’t.
70. All cars must be designed so that an accident at 5 km/hr never causes more than $200 worth of damage.
71. The speedometer on all new cars must be accurate within 1 km/hr.
72. Travellators at airports the entire distance between the security check and the gate lounge. Travellators on all hills in the city centre. Flying fox crossings of all city centre rivers.
73. At least one parking space per bedroom for all dwellings.
74. Land shouldn’t have a price. The price of a dwelling should only be the cost of building the building. Real estate agents to have a flat fee, not a fee that increases as the house price increases.
75. Any location where the road is so narrow, for example due to parked cars, that cars can’t pass when travelling in opposite directions is a failure of the road network, and must be eliminated by road widening or off-street parking.
76. More places to sleep. In the office, at the airport, outdoors in the city, bunk beds in aircraft, for actors between scenes, for musicians between takes. Possibly hammocks?
77. All road bridge heights to be increased to stop trucks running into them.
78. Colour triangles for colourblind people (Anomalous Trichromacy) to be taught in primary school at the same time as colour triangles for normal sighted people.
79. The most important science is chemistry. The only important science is chemistry.
80. Bring back ancient systems of government – the Greek system where the president is determined by lottery – the Persian system where decisions made sober are ratified when drunk and decisions made drunk are ratified when sober.
81. Morality is a science. Bentham’s moral calculus must be taught in high school.
82. A “must teach” in high school is: Logic and identifying the misuse of logic; Statistics and identifying the misuse of statistics.

You’ve put a lot of effort into this.

I shall endeavour to supply some unpopular comments* when I have time.

In passing: is 82 really unpopular?

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Date: 5/01/2024 10:48:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2110612
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

mollwollfumble said:


Another 22 unpopular opinions.

61. A rerun in the mid 1970s of the Miller-Urey experiment found self-assembled bacteria-sized double-walled vesicles in the grey goo attached to the electrode. i.e. cells formed as soon as the Earth cooled enough, long before life as we know it existed.
62. Queen Victoria never allowed any photographs to be taken of her smiling. In order to hide her Down Syndrome.
63. Each generation of Aboriginal activists hates the previous generation of Aboriginal activists.
64. The faster the speed limit, the fewer the accidents, because the roads are less crowded.
65. No speed bumps.
66. We don’t want accountability. We want openness. Accountability costs a fortune and slows everything down. Openness doesn’t.
67. At every intersection, place “yield” signs on the minor road and no signs on the major road. That way you never need “stop” signs.
68. Australia needs supersonic passenger transport.
69. Paper use in the USA kills over a million tons of trees a year. Plastic use doesn’t.
70. All cars must be designed so that an accident at 5 km/hr never causes more than $200 worth of damage.
71. The speedometer on all new cars must be accurate within 1 km/hr.
72. Travellators at airports the entire distance between the security check and the gate lounge. Travellators on all hills in the city centre. Flying fox crossings of all city centre rivers.
73. At least one parking space per bedroom for all dwellings.
74. Land shouldn’t have a price. The price of a dwelling should only be the cost of building the building. Real estate agents to have a flat fee, not a fee that increases as the house price increases.
75. Any location where the road is so narrow, for example due to parked cars, that cars can’t pass when travelling in opposite directions is a failure of the road network, and must be eliminated by road widening or off-street parking.
76. More places to sleep. In the office, at the airport, outdoors in the city, bunk beds in aircraft, for actors between scenes, for musicians between takes. Possibly hammocks?
77. All road bridge heights to be increased to stop trucks running into them.
78. Colour triangles for colourblind people (Anomalous Trichromacy) to be taught in primary school at the same time as colour triangles for normal sighted people.
79. The most important science is chemistry. The only important science is chemistry.
80. Bring back ancient systems of government – the Greek system where the president is determined by lottery – the Persian system where decisions made sober are ratified when drunk and decisions made drunk are ratified when sober.
81. Morality is a science. Bentham’s moral calculus must be taught in high school.
82. A “must teach” in high school is: Logic and identifying the misuse of logic; Statistics and identifying the misuse of statistics.

‘Real estate agents to have a flat fee, not a fee that increases as the house price increases.’

I’ve long thought this. Perhaps a fee of 1% of the sale price, or $3,000, whichever is the lesser? Get the race-track urgers out of the business.

‘ the Greek system where the president is determined by lottery’

Yes. If we’re to have a republic, let’s make it so that being president (which, after all, will be a largely ceremonial role in Australia) is like jury service, or conscription. Your name gets drawn at random, and it’s your turn in the barrel. Period of office to be decided. Three months? Six months? A year? Prevent the job becoming a well-paid sinecure for the party faithful or for generous donors to party funds.

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Date: 5/01/2024 18:00:21
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2110770
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Trans psycho shoots up school in iowa

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Date: 5/01/2024 21:08:12
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2110828
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Up to number 100 now.

81. Morality is a science. Bentham’s moral calculus must be taught in high school.
82. A “must teach” in high school is: Logic and identifying the misuse of logic; Statistics and identifying the misuse of statistics.
83. Good classical music died a hundred years ago. The correct distance from an opera singer to the nearest microphone is at least 150 yards. Violinists who play every note vibrato should be shot. The deepest circles of hell are for those who record classical music with dynamic range enhancement.
84. If it has words then it isn’t music. It’s propaganda.
85. The word “propaganda” originated in the Catholic Church. It was then taken over by Nazi Germany and from there migrated to America.
86. Russia and the Soviet Union has never been a threat to America.
87. The worst (well-known) person in American history was J. Edgar Hoover.
88. There’s nothing even slightly mystical about Earth-Water-Air-Fire.
89. The Chinese dragon was originally an invisible snake that carried the Sun in its mouth across the sky each day. The Greek dragon was originally the Arabian cobra, the spines of its neck were wrongly believed to be like the wing bones of a bat.
90. For a nuclear reactor that generates the most optical and near-IR radiation, make it from molten uranium stirred by carbon-tungsten paddles.
91. Rocks are completely stable in the temperature, pressure and atmosphere on the surface of Venus. So make the next spacecraft to Venus out of rock.
92. You can use a standard video camera to make a complete coloured 3-D image of your environment in a fraction of the time it takes LIDAR.
93. The best way to protect everybody from a nuclear bomb blast is to immerse the bomb in a bubbly liquid such as beer.
94. Using nuclear explosions for peaceful purposes is a Soviet initiative that Americans failed to successfully copy.
95. Dinosaurs developed feathers, not for flight or warmth, but to carry water back to their nestlings.
96. The “5 second rule” is because human short term memory can be quickly overwritten.
97. Crocodile dung was used as an effective contraceptive in ancient Egypt and aboriginal Australia.
98. The real great invention in ancient times was not “the wheel” but “the journal bearing”.
99. Mythbusters greatest failure was their ignorance, from the very first episode to the last, of the swing test for flight stability.
100. Seatbelts for all animals in cars.

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Date: 5/01/2024 21:14:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2110829
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

mollwollfumble said:


Up to number 100 now.

81. Morality is a science. Bentham’s moral calculus must be taught in high school.
82. A “must teach” in high school is: Logic and identifying the misuse of logic; Statistics and identifying the misuse of statistics.
83. Good classical music died a hundred years ago. The correct distance from an opera singer to the nearest microphone is at least 150 yards. Violinists who play every note vibrato should be shot. The deepest circles of hell are for those who record classical music with dynamic range enhancement.
84. If it has words then it isn’t music. It’s propaganda.
85. The word “propaganda” originated in the Catholic Church. It was then taken over by Nazi Germany and from there migrated to America.
86. Russia and the Soviet Union has never been a threat to America.
87. The worst (well-known) person in American history was J. Edgar Hoover.
88. There’s nothing even slightly mystical about Earth-Water-Air-Fire.
89. The Chinese dragon was originally an invisible snake that carried the Sun in its mouth across the sky each day. The Greek dragon was originally the Arabian cobra, the spines of its neck were wrongly believed to be like the wing bones of a bat.
90. For a nuclear reactor that generates the most optical and near-IR radiation, make it from molten uranium stirred by carbon-tungsten paddles.
91. Rocks are completely stable in the temperature, pressure and atmosphere on the surface of Venus. So make the next spacecraft to Venus out of rock.
92. You can use a standard video camera to make a complete coloured 3-D image of your environment in a fraction of the time it takes LIDAR.
93. The best way to protect everybody from a nuclear bomb blast is to immerse the bomb in a bubbly liquid such as beer.
94. Using nuclear explosions for peaceful purposes is a Soviet initiative that Americans failed to successfully copy.
95. Dinosaurs developed feathers, not for flight or warmth, but to carry water back to their nestlings.
96. The “5 second rule” is because human short term memory can be quickly overwritten.
97. Crocodile dung was used as an effective contraceptive in ancient Egypt and aboriginal Australia.
98. The real great invention in ancient times was not “the wheel” but “the journal bearing”.
99. Mythbusters greatest failure was their ignorance, from the very first episode to the last, of the swing test for flight stability.
100. Seatbelts for all animals in cars.

Umm…sending a space probe made of rock to Venus is just another way of saying ‘erecting a monument on Venus’.

I mean, electronics? Transmission and reception antennae?

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Date: 5/01/2024 21:20:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2110831
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

‘94. Using nuclear explosions for peaceful purposes is a Soviet initiative that Americans failed to successfully copy.’

The American ‘Project Plowshare’ dated from 1957. 35 nuclear warheads were detonated in 27 separate tests.

The Russian programme, ‘Nuclear Explosions for the National Economy’ did not come into being until 1965.

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Date: 5/01/2024 21:28:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2110834
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

I think that we need a ‘Nuclear Explosion for the National Economy’.

We get e.g. Gina Hancock and those of her ilk gathered in one place, and light the blue touch paper.

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Date: 5/01/2024 21:32:43
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2110836
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

captain_spalding said:


Umm…sending a space probe made of rock to Venus is just another way of saying ‘erecting a monument on Venus’.

I mean, electronics? Transmission and reception antennae?

Noted. Electronics can be silicon chips, which is also a form of rock.

Ceramic chip antennae have been made and are successful.

The actual tough one is the batteries. Perhaps an aluminium – platinum cell with a molten salt electrolyte? An advantage is that it doesn’t start generating electricity until it lands, so doesn’t go flat on the way there.

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Date: 5/01/2024 21:33:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2110837
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

mollwollfumble said:


captain_spalding said:

Umm…sending a space probe made of rock to Venus is just another way of saying ‘erecting a monument on Venus’.

I mean, electronics? Transmission and reception antennae?

Noted. Electronics can be silicon chips, which is also a form of rock.

Ceramic chip antennae have been made and are successful.

The actual tough one is the batteries. Perhaps an aluminium – platinum cell with a molten salt electrolyte? An advantage is that it doesn’t start generating electricity until it lands, so doesn’t go flat on the way there.

There’s a desk at NASA with your name on it.

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Date: 5/01/2024 22:02:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2110851
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

mollwollfumble said:


Up to number 100 now.

81. Morality is a science. Bentham’s moral calculus must be taught in high school.
82. A “must teach” in high school is: Logic and identifying the misuse of logic; Statistics and identifying the misuse of statistics.
83. Good classical music died a hundred years ago. The correct distance from an opera singer to the nearest microphone is at least 150 yards. Violinists who play every note vibrato should be shot. The deepest circles of hell are for those who record classical music with dynamic range enhancement.
84. If it has words then it isn’t music. It’s propaganda.
85. The word “propaganda” originated in the Catholic Church. It was then taken over by Nazi Germany and from there migrated to America.
86. Russia and the Soviet Union has never been a threat to America.
87. The worst (well-known) person in American history was J. Edgar Hoover.
88. There’s nothing even slightly mystical about Earth-Water-Air-Fire.
89. The Chinese dragon was originally an invisible snake that carried the Sun in its mouth across the sky each day. The Greek dragon was originally the Arabian cobra, the spines of its neck were wrongly believed to be like the wing bones of a bat.
90. For a nuclear reactor that generates the most optical and near-IR radiation, make it from molten uranium stirred by carbon-tungsten paddles.
91. Rocks are completely stable in the temperature, pressure and atmosphere on the surface of Venus. So make the next spacecraft to Venus out of rock.
92. You can use a standard video camera to make a complete coloured 3-D image of your environment in a fraction of the time it takes LIDAR.
93. The best way to protect everybody from a nuclear bomb blast is to immerse the bomb in a bubbly liquid such as beer.
94. Using nuclear explosions for peaceful purposes is a Soviet initiative that Americans failed to successfully copy.
95. Dinosaurs developed feathers, not for flight or warmth, but to carry water back to their nestlings.
96. The “5 second rule” is because human short term memory can be quickly overwritten.
97. Crocodile dung was used as an effective contraceptive in ancient Egypt and aboriginal Australia.
98. The real great invention in ancient times was not “the wheel” but “the journal bearing”.
99. Mythbusters greatest failure was their ignorance, from the very first episode to the last, of the swing test for flight stability.
100. Seatbelts for all animals in cars.

on 88 Koeeoaddi There

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Date: 7/01/2024 16:58:02
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2111554
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

captain_spalding said:


mollwollfumble said:

captain_spalding said:

Umm…sending a space probe made of rock to Venus is just another way of saying ‘erecting a monument on Venus’.

I mean, electronics? Transmission and reception antennae?

Noted. Electronics can be silicon chips, which is also a form of rock.

Ceramic chip antennae have been made and are successful.

The actual tough one is the batteries. Perhaps an aluminium – platinum cell with a molten salt electrolyte? An advantage is that it doesn’t start generating electricity until it lands, so doesn’t go flat on the way there.

There’s a desk at NASA with your name on it.

Ta. I did send some proposals to ESA, who are more open to proposals from non-Americans.

And another 30.


101. We need a shop called “I’ve been everywhere” that sells souvenirs from every country. Why not, they’re all made in the same place.
102. Extended road lifetimes. For major roads, a guarantee of at least 70 years between construction and first maintenance. For minor roads, a guarantee of at least 20 years between construction and first maintenance.
103. 3-D TV for a single TV channel. Everything on the channel is 3-D, even the ads. To show on a standard TV screen with glasses, not on a special screen. There are thousands of 3-D movies that have already been made.
104. Hospitals need to be torn down and rebuilt from scratch. They are impossible to clean, built like a maze, and way too noisy.
105. If you have to wait more than an hour for a doctor then the doctor’s office must pay you.
106. Peer review can be marvellous, or abysmally awful.
107. Too many people set themselves up as gatekeepers in order to quash every dissenting opinion.
108. The sole purpose of newspapers and the television news is to make people angry. To spread agitprop.
109. Philosophy is underrated.
110. The ability to cope with life’s problems, is overrated.
111. There are at least 30 types of transient medical emergency, serious enough to need an immediate stop to driving, not serious enough to need hospitalisation.
112. When caught in a thunderstorm, do shelter under a tree.
113. The sole purpose of showering is to experience the narcotic pleasure of breathing hot gases.
114. When each country is plotted as one point, the correlation between lung cancer and personal income is stronger than the correlation between lung cancer and smoking. And for women, life expectancy increases with increasing tobacco smoking. And when all socioeconomic factors are removed, tobacco smoking is uncorrelated with lung cancer.
115. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say that we’re taller than our parents because of better nutrition at the same time as saying that we’re heavier than out parents because of worse nutrition.
116. No medical research has ever ruled out the possibility that either or both of lung cancer and obesity are transmissible diseases.
117. Rewriting the past to make it conform to modern morality and political correctness is a major industry.
118. Political correctness has nothing to do with removing bias, and everything to do with narcisists throwing their weight around for political purposes.
119. The first archaeologists were Christians and, ever since then, faked religious interpretations of ancient cultures are everywhere and became mainstream. Leviticus is not a religious document. Egypt never had a religion, they never believed in their own Gods or in an afterlife. Mesoamerican cultures never had a religion.
120. Helen never went to Troy, the Greeks attacked the wrong city.
121. Parents cannot be held responsible for their children’s actions.
122. Cats have at least three independent ways of murdering humans: venom, anaphylaxis (using pollen) and trips.
123. The first two spectator sports in the history of mankind, were running and attempted murder.
124. There is no difference between a slave and a prisoner. Then as now there were two types, criminals and prisoners of war. Slaves/prisoners used to be upwardly mobile, one slave became second in command of the army. One prisoner became chief of police while still serving his sentence.
125. Secrecy always benefits the criminal and the immoral, never the innocent. Secrecy breeds corruption.
126. Avoid insurance, all insurance.
127. Communism. Comintern effectively died in 1937. World support for Chinese communism died in 1966. Vietnam ceased to be socialist in the 1980s, it had ceased to be communist decades earlier. African communism never really existed.
128. The best political leader in the world is Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum.
129. A brain is not necessary for thought.
130. The process whereby trees lift water more than 50 metres is still an unsolved mystery.
131. Every food that people eat is either a baby (eg. a fruit) or baby food (eg. dairy).

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Date: 7/01/2024 17:13:44
From: party_pants
ID: 2111558
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

It is silly to hold opinions contrary to known facts.
I don’t need to respect those opinions.

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Date: 7/01/2024 17:17:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2111560
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

>Egypt never had a religion, they never believed in their own Gods or in an afterlife. Mesoamerican cultures never had a religion.

Unfortunately stuff like this is just embarrassing bullshit.

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Date: 7/01/2024 17:23:40
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2111563
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Bubblecar said:


>Egypt never had a religion, they never believed in their own Gods or in an afterlife. Mesoamerican cultures never had a religion.

Unfortunately stuff like this is just embarrassing bullshit.

Thank you.

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Date: 7/01/2024 17:48:42
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2111567
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

party_pants said:


It is silly to hold opinions contrary to known facts.
I don’t need to respect those opinions.

No one respects Moll so you’re not alone.

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Date: 7/01/2024 17:52:38
From: party_pants
ID: 2111569
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

It is silly to hold opinions contrary to known facts.
I don’t need to respect those opinions.

No one respects Moll so you’re not alone.

I am happy enough with some things on hist list, neutral on others. But this stuff about ancient Egypt not having religion is just plain wrong. We have their writings and inscriptions, in hundreds of tombs and temples.

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Date: 7/01/2024 18:01:25
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2111573
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

It is silly to hold opinions contrary to known facts.
I don’t need to respect those opinions.

No one respects Moll so you’re not alone.

I am happy enough with some things on hist list, neutral on others. But this stuff about ancient Egypt not having religion is just plain wrong. We have their writings and inscriptions, in hundreds of tombs and temples.

A stopped watch is right twice a day. I’ve been wondering lately whether Moll is the human equivalent of a Chinese Room. He converses as though he understands English but the glaring contradictions he makes and frequent failures on simple logic makes one question whether he actually understands what he is saying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

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Date: 7/01/2024 19:21:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2111617
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

mollwollfumble said:


captain_spalding said:

mollwollfumble said:

Noted. Electronics can be silicon chips, which is also a form of rock.

Ceramic chip antennae have been made and are successful.

The actual tough one is the batteries. Perhaps an aluminium – platinum cell with a molten salt electrolyte? An advantage is that it doesn’t start generating electricity until it lands, so doesn’t go flat on the way there.

There’s a desk at NASA with your name on it.

Ta. I did send some proposals to ESA, who are more open to proposals from non-Americans.

And another 30.


101. We need a shop called “I’ve been everywhere” that sells souvenirs from every country. Why not, they’re all made in the same place.
102. Extended road lifetimes. For major roads, a guarantee of at least 70 years between construction and first maintenance. For minor roads, a guarantee of at least 20 years between construction and first maintenance.
103. 3-D TV for a single TV channel. Everything on the channel is 3-D, even the ads. To show on a standard TV screen with glasses, not on a special screen. There are thousands of 3-D movies that have already been made.
104. Hospitals need to be torn down and rebuilt from scratch. They are impossible to clean, built like a maze, and way too noisy.
105. If you have to wait more than an hour for a doctor then the doctor’s office must pay you.
106. Peer review can be marvellous, or abysmally awful.
107. Too many people set themselves up as gatekeepers in order to quash every dissenting opinion.
108. The sole purpose of newspapers and the television news is to make people angry. To spread agitprop.
109. Philosophy is underrated.
110. The ability to cope with life’s problems, is overrated.
111. There are at least 30 types of transient medical emergency, serious enough to need an immediate stop to driving, not serious enough to need hospitalisation.
112. When caught in a thunderstorm, do shelter under a tree.
113. The sole purpose of showering is to experience the narcotic pleasure of breathing hot gases.
114. When each country is plotted as one point, the correlation between lung cancer and personal income is stronger than the correlation between lung cancer and smoking. And for women, life expectancy increases with increasing tobacco smoking. And when all socioeconomic factors are removed, tobacco smoking is uncorrelated with lung cancer.
115. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say that we’re taller than our parents because of better nutrition at the same time as saying that we’re heavier than out parents because of worse nutrition.
116. No medical research has ever ruled out the possibility that either or both of lung cancer and obesity are transmissible diseases.
117. Rewriting the past to make it conform to modern morality and political correctness is a major industry.
118. Political correctness has nothing to do with removing bias, and everything to do with narcisists throwing their weight around for political purposes.
119. The first archaeologists were Christians and, ever since then, faked religious interpretations of ancient cultures are everywhere and became mainstream. Leviticus is not a religious document. Egypt never had a religion, they never believed in their own Gods or in an afterlife. Mesoamerican cultures never had a religion.
120. Helen never went to Troy, the Greeks attacked the wrong city.
121. Parents cannot be held responsible for their children’s actions.
122. Cats have at least three independent ways of murdering humans: venom, anaphylaxis (using pollen) and trips.
123. The first two spectator sports in the history of mankind, were running and attempted murder.
124. There is no difference between a slave and a prisoner. Then as now there were two types, criminals and prisoners of war. Slaves/prisoners used to be upwardly mobile, one slave became second in command of the army. One prisoner became chief of police while still serving his sentence.
125. Secrecy always benefits the criminal and the immoral, never the innocent. Secrecy breeds corruption.
126. Avoid insurance, all insurance.
127. Communism. Comintern effectively died in 1937. World support for Chinese communism died in 1966. Vietnam ceased to be socialist in the 1980s, it had ceased to be communist decades earlier. African communism never really existed.
128. The best political leader in the world is Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum.
129. A brain is not necessary for thought.
130. The process whereby trees lift water more than 50 metres is still an unsolved mystery.
131. Every food that people eat is either a baby (eg. a fruit) or baby food (eg. dairy).

I really think you need to review the acceptance criteria for your opinions.

That or submit them for peer review.

Some are so obscure it is impossible to say if they are unpopular or not.

Others are so popular it’s even unfunnier than Donald Trump’s jokes.

No. 118 for instance.

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Date: 7/01/2024 19:27:13
From: PermeateFree
ID: 2111618
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

No one respects Moll so you’re not alone.

I am happy enough with some things on hist list, neutral on others. But this stuff about ancient Egypt not having religion is just plain wrong. We have their writings and inscriptions, in hundreds of tombs and temples.

A stopped watch is right twice a day. I’ve been wondering lately whether Moll is the human equivalent of a Chinese Room. He converses as though he understands English but the glaring contradictions he makes and frequent failures on simple logic makes one question whether he actually understands what he is saying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

Maybe he is a homemade Ai robot.

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Date: 7/01/2024 19:28:52
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2111619
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

PermeateFree said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

I am happy enough with some things on hist list, neutral on others. But this stuff about ancient Egypt not having religion is just plain wrong. We have their writings and inscriptions, in hundreds of tombs and temples.

A stopped watch is right twice a day. I’ve been wondering lately whether Moll is the human equivalent of a Chinese Room. He converses as though he understands English but the glaring contradictions he makes and frequent failures on simple logic makes one question whether he actually understands what he is saying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

Maybe he is a homemade Ai robot.

running on a 486.

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Date: 7/01/2024 19:34:22
From: OCDC
ID: 2111620
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

ChrispenEvan said:

PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
A stopped watch is right twice a day. I’ve been wondering lately whether Moll is the human equivalent of a Chinese Room. He converses as though he understands English but the glaring contradictions he makes and frequent failures on simple logic makes one question whether he actually understands what he is saying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

Maybe he is a homemade Ai robot.
running on a 486.
That makes me a 386.

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Date: 7/01/2024 19:38:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2111621
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

OCDC said:


ChrispenEvan said:
PermeateFree said:
Maybe he is a homemade Ai robot.
running on a 486.
That makes me a 386.

And me a Z80.

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Date: 7/01/2024 19:46:35
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2111626
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Michael V said:


OCDC said:

ChrispenEvan said:
running on a 486.
That makes me a 386.

And me a Z80.

I made myself out of vacuum tubes and gaffer tape.

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Date: 7/01/2024 19:48:02
From: OCDC
ID: 2111627
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:
OCDC said:
That makes me a 386.
And me a Z80.
I made myself out of vacuum tubes and gaffer tape.
roughy’s probably amber and fur.

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Date: 7/01/2024 19:50:37
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2111629
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

OCDC said:


Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
And me a Z80.
I made myself out of vacuum tubes and gaffer tape.
roughy’s probably amber and fur.

i’m like two supercomputers…cray cray.

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Date: 7/01/2024 19:53:23
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2111631
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

ChrispenEvan said:


OCDC said:

Witty Rejoinder said:
I made myself out of vacuum tubes and gaffer tape.
roughy’s probably amber and fur.

i’m like two supercomputers…cray cray.

Your brothers.

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Date: 7/01/2024 19:55:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 2111633
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

38.6

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Date: 7/01/2024 19:56:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 2111634
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

OCDC said:


Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
And me a Z80.
I made myself out of vacuum tubes and gaffer tape.
roughy’s probably amber and fur.

opal and ironbark.

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Date: 7/01/2024 20:52:29
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2111657
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Michael V said:


OCDC said:

ChrispenEvan said:
running on a 486.
That makes me a 386.

And me a Z80.

Still got mine here, sitting in the garage.
A Dick Smith System 80. I wonder if it’d still boot-up.

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Date: 7/01/2024 21:03:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 2111658
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Spiny Norman said:


Michael V said:

OCDC said:

That makes me a 386.

And me a Z80.

Still got mine here, sitting in the garage.
A Dick Smith System 80. I wonder if it’d still boot-up.

Blow the dust out of it first.

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Date: 7/01/2024 21:41:43
From: Kingy
ID: 2111677
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Spiny Norman said:


Michael V said:

OCDC said:

That makes me a 386.

And me a Z80.

Still got mine here, sitting in the garage.
A Dick Smith System 80. I wonder if it’d still boot-up.

You probably should check out the current ebay prices for those.

and then not sell it …

… yet.

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Date: 7/01/2024 21:52:05
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2111686
Subject: re: Unpopular opinions

Kingy said:


Spiny Norman said:

Michael V said:

And me a Z80.

Still got mine here, sitting in the garage.
A Dick Smith System 80. I wonder if it’d still boot-up.

You probably should check out the current ebay prices for those.

and then not sell it …

… yet.

Had a quick look, couldn’t see any there.

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