May we well have a more recent thread on this.
OCDC said:
https://medicinetoday.com.au/mt/2024/january/something-borrowed/emergence-jn1-evolutionary-step-change-covid-pandemic-why-significantTHE CONVERSATION
The emergence of JN.1 is an evolutionary ‘step change’ in the COVID pandemic. Why is this significant?Suman Majumdar, Brendan Crabb, Emma Pakula, Stuart Turville
Since it was detected in August 2023, the JN.1 variant of COVID has spread widely. It has become dominant in Australia and around the world, driving the biggest COVID wave seen in many jurisdictions for at least the past year.
The World Health Organization (WHO) classified JN.1 as a “variant of interest” in December 2023 and in January strongly stated COVID was a continuing global health threat causing “far too much” preventable disease with worrying potential for long-term health consequences.
JN.1 is significant. First as a pathogen – it’s a surprisingly new-look version of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID) and is rapidly displacing other circulating strains (omicron XBB).
It’s also significant because of what it says about COVID’s evolution. Normally, SARS-CoV-2 variants look quite similar to what was there before, accumulating just a few mutations at a time that give the virus a meaningful advantage over its parent.However, occasionally, as was the case when omicron (B.1.1.529) arose two years ago, variants emerge seemingly out of the blue that have markedly different characteristics to what was there before. This has significant implications for disease and transmission.
Until now, it wasn’t clear this “step-change” evolution would happen again, especially given the ongoing success of the steadily evolving omicron variants.
JN.1 is so distinct and causing such a wave of new infections that many are wondering whether the WHO will recognise JN.1 as the next variant of concern with its own Greek letter. In any case, with JN.1 we’ve entered a new phase of the pandemic.
Where did JN.1 come from?
The JN.1 (or BA.2.86.1.1) story begins with the emergence of its parent lineage BA.2.86 around mid 2023, which originated from a much earlier (2022) omicron sub-variant BA.2.
Chronic infections that may linger unresolved for months (if not years, in some people) likely play a role in the emergence of these step-change variants.
In chronically infected people, the virus silently tests and eventually retains many mutations that help it avoid immunity and survive in that person. For BA.2.86, this resulted in more than 30 mutations of the spike protein (a protein on the surface of SARS-CoV-2 that allows it to attach to our cells).
The sheer volume of infections occurring globally sets the scene for major viral evolution. SARS-CoV-2 continues to have a very high rate of mutation. Accordingly, JN.1 itself is already mutating and evolving quickly.
How is JN.1 different to other variants?
BA.2.86 and now JN.1 are behaving in a manner that looks unique in laboratory studies in two ways.
The first relates to how the virus evades immunity. JN.1 has inherited more than 30 mutations in its spike protein. It also acquired a new mutation, L455S, which further decreases the ability of antibodies (one part of the immune system’s protective response) to bind to the virus and prevent infection.
The second involves changes to the way JN.1 enters and replicates in our cells. Without delving in to the molecular details, recent high-profile lab-based research from the United States and Europe observed BA.2.86 to enter cells from the lung in a similar way to pre-omicron variants like delta. However, in contrast, preliminary work by Australia’s Kirby Institute using different techniques finds replication characteristics that are aligned better with omicron lineages.
Further research to resolve these different cell entry findings is important because it has implications for where the virus may prefer to replicate in the body, which could affect disease severity and transmission.Whatever the case, these findings show JN.1 (and SARS-CoV-2 in general) can not only navigate its way around our immune system, but is finding new ways to infect cells and transmit effectively. We need to further study how this plays out in people and how it affects clinical outcomes.
Is JN.1 more severe?
The step-change evolution of BA.2.86, combined with the immune-evading features in JN.1, has given the virus a global growth advantage well beyond the XBB.1-based lineages we faced in 2023.
Despite these features, evidence suggests our adaptive immune system could still recognise and respond to BA.286 and JN.1 effectively. Updated monovalent vaccines, tests and treatments remain effective against JN.1.
There are two elements to “severity”: first if it is more “intrinsically” severe (worse illness with an infection in the absence of any immunity) and second if the virus has greater transmission, causing greater illness and deaths, simply because it infects more people. The latter is certainly the case with JN.1.
What next?
We simply don’t know if this virus is on an evolutionary track to becoming the “next common cold” or not, nor have any idea of what that timeframe might be. While examining the trajectories of four historic coronaviruses could give us a glimpse of where we may be heading, this should be considered as just one possible path. The emergence of JN.1 underlines that we are experiencing a continuing epidemic with COVID and that looks like the way forward for the foreseeable future.
We are now in a new pandemic phase: post-emergency. Yet COVID remains the major infectious disease causing harm globally, from both acute infections and long COVID. At a societal and an individual level we need to re-think the risks of accepting wave after wave of infection.Altogether, this underscores the importance of comprehensive strategies to reduce COVID transmission and impacts, with the least imposition (such as clean indoor air interventions).
People are advised to continue to take active steps to protect themselves and those around them.
For better pandemic preparedness for emerging threats and an improved response to the current one it is crucial we continue global surveillance. The low representation of low- and middle- income countries is a concerning blind-spot. Intensified research is also crucial.
What’s the current advice on boosters? Is there a new one for the new major strains?
furious said:
What’s the current advice on boosters? Is there a new one for the new major strains?There was a new monovalent available from December that is supposed to be better than the bivalent as it is closer to the current strains. Recommendation is for a booster six months after infection or previous booster, if you’re an expendable.
Let it fucking rip.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-11/patients-catching-covid-hospitals-australia-infection-control/103442806
Steve Irons’ older brother Jim was only supposed to be in hospital for a short while. A retired stockman from Maryborough, Queensland, Jim was diagnosed with leukaemia just before Christmas in 2022. He was flown to Brisbane for testing, then back to Maryborough Hospital, where doctors were putting together a plan for him to be treated at home.
But a patient in the room next door to Jim’s had COVID, Steve says, and on January 14 last year, Jim tested positive too. “After four days, when the hospital told me he was no longer infectious, I took the risk and decided to visit him,” says Steve, who’d flown up from Tasmania. “I sat with him for three days, playing country music, reading to him.”
And then, on Saturday January 21, Jim Irons died of COVID-19 pneumonia and acute myeloid leukaemia, aged 79. It still distresses Steve to know his brother would have lived longer had he not caught a dangerous virus in a place he should have been safe. Once Jim had COVID, he says, hospital staff kept his door closed and donned masks and gowns when they came into his room. But hindsight is 20/20. “For me, to put him next door to a COVID patient caused his death,” Steve says. “It didn’t have to happen that way. If they’d had a separate COVID ward … with formal routes of entry, cleaning, controlled ventilation, Jim could still be with us now.”
Twelve months later Australian hospitals have become a strange new battleground in the fight against COVID, with doctors and public health experts concerned that too many patients are catching the virus — and an alarming number are dying — as a result of inadequate infection control. Until recently, tools like contact tracing, testing, N95 respirators and good ventilation were mainstays of COVID management in healthcare settings. But in many hospitals they’ve been wound back or ditched in tandem with other community protections, putting patients and healthcare workers at risk and deterring others from seeking treatment.
Health departments insist the risk of catching COVID cannot be eliminated completely, and that hospitals maintain stringent measures to prevent infections and manage outbreaks. But senior healthcare workers in several states say vulnerable people — including transplant and oncology patients and others with compromised immune systems — are contracting COVID because even basic precautions are not being taken: a consequence, they say, of hospitals’ failure to address airborne transmission, and the pervasive myth that COVID is “just a cold”.
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OCDC said:
Let it fucking rip.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-11/patients-catching-covid-hospitals-australia-infection-control/103442806
Steve Irons’ older brother Jim was only supposed to be in hospital for a short while. A retired stockman from Maryborough, Queensland, Jim was diagnosed with leukaemia just before Christmas in 2022. He was flown to Brisbane for testing, then back to Maryborough Hospital, where doctors were putting together a plan for him to be treated at home.
But a patient in the room next door to Jim’s had COVID, Steve says, and on January 14 last year, Jim tested positive too. “After four days, when the hospital told me he was no longer infectious, I took the risk and decided to visit him,” says Steve, who’d flown up from Tasmania. “I sat with him for three days, playing country music, reading to him.”
And then, on Saturday January 21, Jim Irons died of COVID-19 pneumonia and acute myeloid leukaemia, aged 79. It still distresses Steve to know his brother would have lived longer had he not caught a dangerous virus in a place he should have been safe. Once Jim had COVID, he says, hospital staff kept his door closed and donned masks and gowns when they came into his room. But hindsight is 20/20. “For me, to put him next door to a COVID patient caused his death,” Steve says. “It didn’t have to happen that way. If they’d had a separate COVID ward … with formal routes of entry, cleaning, controlled ventilation, Jim could still be with us now.”
Twelve months later Australian hospitals have become a strange new battleground in the fight against COVID, with doctors and public health experts concerned that too many patients are catching the virus — and an alarming number are dying — as a result of inadequate infection control. Until recently, tools like contact tracing, testing, N95 respirators and good ventilation were mainstays of COVID management in healthcare settings. But in many hospitals they’ve been wound back or ditched in tandem with other community protections, putting patients and healthcare workers at risk and deterring others from seeking treatment.
Health departments insist the risk of catching COVID cannot be eliminated completely, and that hospitals maintain stringent measures to prevent infections and manage outbreaks. But senior healthcare workers in several states say vulnerable people — including transplant and oncology patients and others with compromised immune systems — are contracting COVID because even basic precautions are not being taken: a consequence, they say, of hospitals’ failure to address airborne transmission, and the pervasive myth that COVID is “just a cold”.
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Scary. My mainland sister, who has emphysema, went to hospital for a few days recently with breathing difficulties.
If she were to catch Covid in hospital in such a state it would almost certainly be the end of her.
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:She has a pre-existing condition so she is expendable and no-one will care.Let it fucking rip.Scary. My mainland sister, who has emphysema, went to hospital for a few days recently with breathing difficulties.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-11/patients-catching-covid-hospitals-australia-infection-control/103442806
Steve Irons’ older brother Jim was only supposed to be in hospital for a short while. A retired stockman from Maryborough, Queensland, Jim was diagnosed with leukaemia just before Christmas in 2022. He was flown to Brisbane for testing, then back to Maryborough Hospital, where doctors were putting together a plan for him to be treated at home.
But a patient in the room next door to Jim’s had COVID, Steve says, and on January 14 last year, Jim tested positive too. “After four days, when the hospital told me he was no longer infectious, I took the risk and decided to visit him,” says Steve, who’d flown up from Tasmania. “I sat with him for three days, playing country music, reading to him.”
And then, on Saturday January 21, Jim Irons died of COVID-19 pneumonia and acute myeloid leukaemia, aged 79. It still distresses Steve to know his brother would have lived longer had he not caught a dangerous virus in a place he should have been safe. Once Jim had COVID, he says, hospital staff kept his door closed and donned masks and gowns when they came into his room. But hindsight is 20/20. “For me, to put him next door to a COVID patient caused his death,” Steve says. “It didn’t have to happen that way. If they’d had a separate COVID ward … with formal routes of entry, cleaning, controlled ventilation, Jim could still be with us now.”
Twelve months later Australian hospitals have become a strange new battleground in the fight against COVID, with doctors and public health experts concerned that too many patients are catching the virus — and an alarming number are dying — as a result of inadequate infection control. Until recently, tools like contact tracing, testing, N95 respirators and good ventilation were mainstays of COVID management in healthcare settings. But in many hospitals they’ve been wound back or ditched in tandem with other community protections, putting patients and healthcare workers at risk and deterring others from seeking treatment.
Health departments insist the risk of catching COVID cannot be eliminated completely, and that hospitals maintain stringent measures to prevent infections and manage outbreaks. But senior healthcare workers in several states say vulnerable people — including transplant and oncology patients and others with compromised immune systems — are contracting COVID because even basic precautions are not being taken: a consequence, they say, of hospitals’ failure to address airborne transmission, and the pervasive myth that COVID is “just a cold”.
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If she were to catch Covid in hospital in such a state it would almost certainly be the end of her.
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:OCDC said:She has a pre-existing condition so she is expendable and no-one will care.Let it fucking rip.Scary. My mainland sister, who has emphysema, went to hospital for a few days recently with breathing difficulties.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-11/patients-catching-covid-hospitals-australia-infection-control/103442806
Steve Irons’ older brother Jim was only supposed to be in hospital for a short while. A retired stockman from Maryborough, Queensland, Jim was diagnosed with leukaemia just before Christmas in 2022. He was flown to Brisbane for testing, then back to Maryborough Hospital, where doctors were putting together a plan for him to be treated at home.
But a patient in the room next door to Jim’s had COVID, Steve says, and on January 14 last year, Jim tested positive too. “After four days, when the hospital told me he was no longer infectious, I took the risk and decided to visit him,” says Steve, who’d flown up from Tasmania. “I sat with him for three days, playing country music, reading to him.”
And then, on Saturday January 21, Jim Irons died of COVID-19 pneumonia and acute myeloid leukaemia, aged 79. It still distresses Steve to know his brother would have lived longer had he not caught a dangerous virus in a place he should have been safe. Once Jim had COVID, he says, hospital staff kept his door closed and donned masks and gowns when they came into his room. But hindsight is 20/20. “For me, to put him next door to a COVID patient caused his death,” Steve says. “It didn’t have to happen that way. If they’d had a separate COVID ward … with formal routes of entry, cleaning, controlled ventilation, Jim could still be with us now.”
Twelve months later Australian hospitals have become a strange new battleground in the fight against COVID, with doctors and public health experts concerned that too many patients are catching the virus — and an alarming number are dying — as a result of inadequate infection control. Until recently, tools like contact tracing, testing, N95 respirators and good ventilation were mainstays of COVID management in healthcare settings. But in many hospitals they’ve been wound back or ditched in tandem with other community protections, putting patients and healthcare workers at risk and deterring others from seeking treatment.
Health departments insist the risk of catching COVID cannot be eliminated completely, and that hospitals maintain stringent measures to prevent infections and manage outbreaks. But senior healthcare workers in several states say vulnerable people — including transplant and oncology patients and others with compromised immune systems — are contracting COVID because even basic precautions are not being taken: a consequence, they say, of hospitals’ failure to address airborne transmission, and the pervasive myth that COVID is “just a cold”.
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If she were to catch Covid in hospital in such a state it would almost certainly be the end of her.
you probably wouldn’t be surprised what people can normalize for convenience
LOL
Got the latest jab on Friday, it’s still knocking me around a fair bit. Yesterday was pretty average, but a bit better today. I’m extremely weary but have trouble sleeping.
Spiny Norman said:
Got the latest jab on Friday, it’s still knocking me around a fair bit. Yesterday was pretty average, but a bit better today. I’m extremely weary but have trouble sleeping.
Sounds nasty. I’m one of that annoying type who feel no effects at all from COVID injections, including the most recent one.
Funny how we all have our own personal chemistry, isn’t it?
Anyway, take it easy, i hope that the effects disappear very soon. (I did once have a strong reaction to a yellow fever inoculation. Essentially had the disease for a couple of days, so i can sympathise to some degree.)
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
Got the latest jab on Friday, it’s still knocking me around a fair bit. Yesterday was pretty average, but a bit better today. I’m extremely weary but have trouble sleeping.
Sounds nasty. I’m one of that annoying type who feel no effects at all from COVID injections, including the most recent one.
Funny how we all have our own personal chemistry, isn’t it?
Anyway, take it easy, i hope that the effects disappear very soon. (I did once have a strong reaction to a yellow fever inoculation. Essentially had the disease for a couple of days, so i can sympathise to some degree.)
Yeah. I reacted strongly to the first jab but hardly at all to the next four.
Anyway having a reacting is a good thing.
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:I was absolutely exhausted for a couple of days after the first few, but the latest two have been completely fine. Brand has not made much of a difference.Got the latest jab on Friday, it’s still knocking me around a fair bit. Yesterday was pretty average, but a bit better today. I’m extremely weary but have trouble sleeping.Sounds nasty. I’m one of that annoying type who feel no effects at all from COVID injections, including the most recent one.
Funny how we all have our own personal chemistry, isn’t it?
Anyway, take it easy, i hope that the effects disappear very soon. (I did once have a strong reaction to a yellow fever inoculation. Essentially had the disease for a couple of days, so i can sympathise to some degree.)
OCDC said:
captain_spalding said:Spiny Norman said:I was absolutely exhausted for a couple of days after the first few, but the latest two have been completely fine. Brand has not made much of a difference.Got the latest jab on Friday, it’s still knocking me around a fair bit. Yesterday was pretty average, but a bit better today. I’m extremely weary but have trouble sleeping.Sounds nasty. I’m one of that annoying type who feel no effects at all from COVID injections, including the most recent one.
Funny how we all have our own personal chemistry, isn’t it?
Anyway, take it easy, i hope that the effects disappear very soon. (I did once have a strong reaction to a yellow fever inoculation. Essentially had the disease for a couple of days, so i can sympathise to some degree.)
Spocky has had no reaction to any of them. It worries me a little.
It has limitations but it was a prospective study which is good.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35047649/
Results: Two hundred six participants were evaluated (69.4% female, median age 41.5 years old). We found no correlation between vaccine-associated symptom severity scores and vaccine-induced antibody titers 1 month after vaccination. We also observed that (1) postvaccination symptoms were inversely correlated with age and weight and more common in women, (2) systemic symptoms were more frequent after the second vaccination, (3) high symptom scores after first vaccination were predictive of high symptom scores after second vaccination, and (4) older age was associated with lower titers.
Conclusions: Lack of postvaccination symptoms after receipt of the BNT162b2 vaccine does not equate to lack of vaccine-induced antibodies 1 month after vaccination.
OCDC said:
It has limitations but it was a prospective study which is good.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35047649/
Results: Two hundred six participants were evaluated (69.4% female, median age 41.5 years old). We found no correlation between vaccine-associated symptom severity scores and vaccine-induced antibody titers 1 month after vaccination. We also observed that (1) postvaccination symptoms were inversely correlated with age and weight and more common in women, (2) systemic symptoms were more frequent after the second vaccination, (3) high symptom scores after first vaccination were predictive of high symptom scores after second vaccination, and (4) older age was associated with lower titers.
Conclusions: Lack of postvaccination symptoms after receipt of the BNT162b2 vaccine does not equate to lack of vaccine-induced antibodies 1 month after vaccination.
Sorry I’m too spaced out to make sense of that.
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC said:Vaccine is equally effective with and without side effects. So no need to worry about Spocky’s immunity.It has limitations but it was a prospective study which is good.Sorry I’m too spaced out to make sense of that.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35047649/
Results: Two hundred six participants were evaluated (69.4% female, median age 41.5 years old). We found no correlation between vaccine-associated symptom severity scores and vaccine-induced antibody titers 1 month after vaccination. We also observed that (1) postvaccination symptoms were inversely correlated with age and weight and more common in women, (2) systemic symptoms were more frequent after the second vaccination, (3) high symptom scores after first vaccination were predictive of high symptom scores after second vaccination, and (4) older age was associated with lower titers.
Conclusions: Lack of postvaccination symptoms after receipt of the BNT162b2 vaccine does not equate to lack of vaccine-induced antibodies 1 month after vaccination.
OCDC said:
Spiny Norman said:OCDC said:Vaccine is equally effective with and without side effects. So no need to worry about Spocky’s immunity.It has limitations but it was a prospective study which is good.Sorry I’m too spaced out to make sense of that.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35047649/
Results: Two hundred six participants were evaluated (69.4% female, median age 41.5 years old). We found no correlation between vaccine-associated symptom severity scores and vaccine-induced antibody titers 1 month after vaccination. We also observed that (1) postvaccination symptoms were inversely correlated with age and weight and more common in women, (2) systemic symptoms were more frequent after the second vaccination, (3) high symptom scores after first vaccination were predictive of high symptom scores after second vaccination, and (4) older age was associated with lower titers.
Conclusions: Lack of postvaccination symptoms after receipt of the BNT162b2 vaccine does not equate to lack of vaccine-induced antibodies 1 month after vaccination.
Okay, ta.
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC said:
Spiny Norman said:Sorry I’m too spaced out to make sense of that.Vaccine is equally effective with and without side effects. So no need to worry about Spocky’s immunity.
Okay, ta.
I’ve had no trouble with any other than the bivalent one which gave me a very sore arm. I’ve had six and had no covid.
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:OCDC said:She has a pre-existing condition so she is expendable and no-one will care.Let it fucking rip.Scary. My mainland sister, who has emphysema, went to hospital for a few days recently with breathing difficulties.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-11/patients-catching-covid-hospitals-australia-infection-control/103442806
Steve Irons’ older brother Jim was only supposed to be in hospital for a short while. A retired stockman from Maryborough, Queensland, Jim was diagnosed with leukaemia just before Christmas in 2022. He was flown to Brisbane for testing, then back to Maryborough Hospital, where doctors were putting together a plan for him to be treated at home.
But a patient in the room next door to Jim’s had COVID, Steve says, and on January 14 last year, Jim tested positive too. “After four days, when the hospital told me he was no longer infectious, I took the risk and decided to visit him,” says Steve, who’d flown up from Tasmania. “I sat with him for three days, playing country music, reading to him.”
And then, on Saturday January 21, Jim Irons died of COVID-19 pneumonia and acute myeloid leukaemia, aged 79. It still distresses Steve to know his brother would have lived longer had he not caught a dangerous virus in a place he should have been safe. Once Jim had COVID, he says, hospital staff kept his door closed and donned masks and gowns when they came into his room. But hindsight is 20/20. “For me, to put him next door to a COVID patient caused his death,” Steve says. “It didn’t have to happen that way. If they’d had a separate COVID ward … with formal routes of entry, cleaning, controlled ventilation, Jim could still be with us now.”
Twelve months later Australian hospitals have become a strange new battleground in the fight against COVID, with doctors and public health experts concerned that too many patients are catching the virus — and an alarming number are dying — as a result of inadequate infection control. Until recently, tools like contact tracing, testing, N95 respirators and good ventilation were mainstays of COVID management in healthcare settings. But in many hospitals they’ve been wound back or ditched in tandem with other community protections, putting patients and healthcare workers at risk and deterring others from seeking treatment.
Health departments insist the risk of catching COVID cannot be eliminated completely, and that hospitals maintain stringent measures to prevent infections and manage outbreaks. But senior healthcare workers in several states say vulnerable people — including transplant and oncology patients and others with compromised immune systems — are contracting COVID because even basic precautions are not being taken: a consequence, they say, of hospitals’ failure to address airborne transmission, and the pervasive myth that COVID is “just a cold”.
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If she were to catch Covid in hospital in such a state it would almost certainly be the end of her.
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I put this scenario to the doctor the other day and she still thinks I should book the colonoscopy.
sarahs mum said:
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:Scary. My mainland sister, who has emphysema, went to hospital for a few days recently with breathing difficulties.She has a pre-existing condition so she is expendable and no-one will care.If she were to catch Covid in hospital in such a state it would almost certainly be the end of her.
:(
I put this scenario to the doctor the other day and she still thinks I should book the colonoscopy.
Don’t you just send off a poo sample?
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
OCDC said:
She has a pre-existing condition so she is expendable and no-one will care.
:(
I put this scenario to the doctor the other day and she still thinks I should book the colonoscopy.
Don’t you just send off a poo sample?
They cut out polyps five years ago and so they want to colonoscopy again even while getting neg poo test.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said::(
I put this scenario to the doctor the other day and she still thinks I should book the colonoscopy.
Don’t you just send off a poo sample?
They cut out polyps five years ago and so they want to colonoscopy again even while getting neg poo test.
OK.
I’m probably overdue then as my colonoscopy was in 2008 though my poo samples are neg.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:Don’t you just send off a poo sample?
They cut out polyps five years ago and so they want to colonoscopy again even while getting neg poo test.
OK.
I’m probably overdue then as my colonoscopy was in 2008 though my poo samples are neg.
i also have sibling and other close rellie deaths.
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sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:They cut out polyps five years ago and so they want to colonoscopy again even while getting neg poo test.
OK.
I’m probably overdue then as my colonoscopy was in 2008 though my poo samples are neg.
i also have sibling and other close rellie deaths.
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None as far as I know from my family.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:They cut out polyps five years ago and so they want to colonoscopy again even while getting neg poo test.
OK.
I’m probably overdue then as my colonoscopy was in 2008 though my poo samples are neg.
i also have sibling and other close rellie deaths.
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I should probably get a colonoscopy done, too. Polyps removed seven years ago.
Maternal grandfather and great grandfather both had colostomies. Mind you, Mum had severe gut problems but refused to get a colonoscopy done. She didn’t want to also end up with a bag.
Day three after the latest jab, still a bit dizzy and flat.
year, population, %increase, increase
2023 8,045,311,447 0.88 % 70,206,291
2022 7,975,105,156 0.83 % 65,810,005
2021 7,909,295,151 0.87 % 68,342,271
2020 7,840,952,880 0.98 % 76,001,848
2019 7,764,951,032 1.06 % 81,161,204
2018 7,683,789,828 1.10 % 83,967,424
2017 7,599,822,404 1.15 % 86,348,166
Annual population increase was on a downward path before Covid but if we were to assume that had continued the same way, there would be 14.1 million more people. Is this is a reasonable estimate of total Covid deaths? Perhaps not since the epidemic also influenced birth rates and for that matter influenced the death rates for non-Covid reasons, but it gives an idea of the size of the population divot left by the disease.
German man received 217 coronavirus vaccine shots over a 29-month period, study says.
A 62-year-old man in Germany still has a functioning immune system after receiving 217 COVID-19 vaccine shots over a 29-month period, researchers have revealed.
The individual from Magdeburg underwent the repeated jabs “deliberately and for private reasons” and against the recommendations of national health authorities, according to a study published this week in the Lancet Infectious Diseases journal.
“Throughout the entire hypervaccination schedule did not report any vaccination-related side effects,” wrote the researchers from Friedrich Alexander University Erlangen-Nuremberg and University Hospital Erlangen. “We do not endorse hypervaccination as a strategy to enhance adaptive immunity.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-man-received-217-coronavirus-142351577.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
Spiny Norman said:
German man received 217 coronavirus vaccine shots over a 29-month period, study says.A 62-year-old man in Germany still has a functioning immune system after receiving 217 COVID-19 vaccine shots over a 29-month period, researchers have revealed.
The individual from Magdeburg underwent the repeated jabs “deliberately and for private reasons” and against the recommendations of national health authorities, according to a study published this week in the Lancet Infectious Diseases journal.
“Throughout the entire hypervaccination schedule did not report any vaccination-related side effects,” wrote the researchers from Friedrich Alexander University Erlangen-Nuremberg and University Hospital Erlangen. “We do not endorse hypervaccination as a strategy to enhance adaptive immunity.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-man-received-217-coronavirus-142351577.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
Also in Auntie’s Justin yesterday.
#goals
Australian government knew obscure retailer had no PPE experience before paying $100m for unusable Covid masks.
The Australian government knew an obscure online retailer had no experience importing PPE prior to handing it $100m and receiving 46m unusable masks at a critical point during the pandemic, documents show.
A Guardian Australia investigation last year revealed how a virtually unknown company, Australian Business Mobiles, received $100m in PPE contracts in early 2020 despite its prior business largely involving the sale of air fryers, robot vacuum cleaners, bedding and massage guns.
ABM was paid to provide 50m masks and 10m gowns at a critical period in the pandemic. It contracted two companies registered in Cyprus, a low-tax jurisdiction, to secure the PPE from Chinese manufacturers.
The Cyprus-registered companies made about $40m on the deals, according to contracts and other documents seen by Guardian Australia. The Australian Taxation Office is understood to have received documents from a whistleblower, raising questions about the arrangement.
Spiny Norman said:
Australian government knew obscure retailer had no PPE experience before paying $100m for unusable Covid masks.The Australian government knew an obscure online retailer had no experience importing PPE prior to handing it $100m and receiving 46m unusable masks at a critical point during the pandemic, documents show.
A Guardian Australia investigation last year revealed how a virtually unknown company, Australian Business Mobiles, received $100m in PPE contracts in early 2020 despite its prior business largely involving the sale of air fryers, robot vacuum cleaners, bedding and massage guns.
ABM was paid to provide 50m masks and 10m gowns at a critical period in the pandemic. It contracted two companies registered in Cyprus, a low-tax jurisdiction, to secure the PPE from Chinese manufacturers.
The Cyprus-registered companies made about $40m on the deals, according to contracts and other documents seen by Guardian Australia. The Australian Taxation Office is understood to have received documents from a whistleblower, raising questions about the arrangement.
The question at the bottom of it all is: which L/NP personage (most likely Liberal) is linked to and profited by the shonky deal? That some such person did can be taken for granted, it only remains to establish their identity and the scale of their personal profit, although such details are unlikely to ever become public knowledge.
Spiny Norman said:
Australian government knew obscure retailer had no PPE experience before paying $100m for unusable Covid masks.The Australian government knew an obscure online retailer had no experience importing PPE prior to handing it $100m and receiving 46m unusable masks at a critical point during the pandemic, documents show.
A Guardian Australia investigation last year revealed how a virtually unknown company, Australian Business Mobiles, received $100m in PPE contracts in early 2020 despite its prior business largely involving the sale of air fryers, robot vacuum cleaners, bedding and massage guns.
ABM was paid to provide 50m masks and 10m gowns at a critical period in the pandemic. It contracted two companies registered in Cyprus, a low-tax jurisdiction, to secure the PPE from Chinese manufacturers.
The Cyprus-registered companies made about $40m on the deals, according to contracts and other documents seen by Guardian Australia. The Australian Taxation Office is understood to have received documents from a whistleblower, raising questions about the arrangement.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Spiny Norman said:There’s now an Aussie company making N95s. I forget the name but they have yellow (no green) straps and they fit me well. I still stick to my auras though, because I know I can tolerate them all day. Some others have smells that make me very migrainous.Australian government knew obscure retailer had no PPE experience before paying $100m for unusable Covid masks.The Australian government knew an obscure online retailer had no experience importing PPE prior to handing it $100m and receiving 46m unusable masks at a critical point during the pandemic, documents show.
A Guardian Australia investigation last year revealed how a virtually unknown company, Australian Business Mobiles, received $100m in PPE contracts in early 2020 despite its prior business largely involving the sale of air fryers, robot vacuum cleaners, bedding and massage guns.
ABM was paid to provide 50m masks and 10m gowns at a critical period in the pandemic. It contracted two companies registered in Cyprus, a low-tax jurisdiction, to secure the PPE from Chinese manufacturers.
The Cyprus-registered companies made about $40m on the deals, according to contracts and other documents seen by Guardian Australia. The Australian Taxation Office is understood to have received documents from a whistleblower, raising questions about the arrangement.
A 100 million could have kick started a new Ozzie company to make masks 😷
I’ve wondered this. It’s not uncommon for the ‘flu or particularly bad colds to linger for months and long-term effects were probably little studied before Covid considering how common colds and ‘flu are:
…
‘Long COVID’ doesn’t exist as we know it, according to new research
By Angus Dalton
March 15, 2024 — 8.32am
Long COVID is indistinguishable from other post-viral syndromes and the term should be ditched, according to researchers who found similar rates of long-term impairment between people who caught COVID-19 and those who were sick from other respiratory illnesses.
The research, led by Queensland’s chief health officer Dr John Gerrard, followed about 2400 people who caught COVID-19 and about 2700 people with other respiratory infections, including influenza.
A year after infection, 3 per cent of people who were COVID positive reported moderate to severe impairment (i.e. long COVID). Among the people who had caught the flu or another respiratory illness, it was 4.1 per cent.
After controlling for factors including age, sex and whether participants were Indigenous, the researchers concluded there was no evidence that COVID-19 infection made impairment more likely.
Gerrard said long COVID appeared to be a severe and distinct disease simply because of the huge number of infections during the pandemic.
“We believe it is time to stop using terms like ‘long COVID’,” Gerrard said. “They wrongly imply there is something unique and exceptional about longer-term symptoms associated with this virus.
“This terminology can cause unnecessary fear, and in some cases, hypervigilance to longer symptoms that can impede recovery.”
The research will be presented at the European Congress of Clinical Microbiology and Infectious Diseases in April but it hasn’t been published in a peer-reviewed journal.
An earlier iteration of the study, in which the researchers reported the status of participants 12 weeks after infection, was published in BMJ Public Health last year, however.
Again, Gerrard and his research colleagues found similar rates of ongoing symptoms and long-term impairment between those infected with COVID and the flu.
They concluded in the BMJ study that “long COVID may manifest as a postviral syndrome of no greater severity than seasonal influenza”.
Jeremy Nicholson, Professor of Medicine at Murdoch University, said the question at hand was whether long COVID was truly a unique condition worthy of its own name, or just another syndrome caused by a range of viruses.
“Unfortunately, this question cannot be simply answered in this work,” Nicholson said. “The study is observational, based on reported symptoms with no physiological or detailed functional follow-up data.”
Without lab analysis of the patients, and without knowing for sure that long COVID isn’t physiologically different to other post-viral syndromes, the evidence to dismiss it isn’t there, he argued.
‘This terminology can cause unnecessary fear, and in some cases, hypervigilance to longer symptoms that can impede recovery.’
John Gerrard, Queensland’s chief health officer
“Until this is resolved, we should still use the long COVID term because it pinpoints exactly the underlying viral cause for a given individual,” which may be relevant to future treatments, Nicholson said.
Gerrard is involved in continuing research into ongoing health issues following COVID-19 infection, including strokes, heart attacks and myocarditis.
“These findings underscore the importance of comparing post-COVID-19 outcomes with those following other respiratory infections, and of further research into post-viral syndromes,” he said.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/long-covid-doesn-t-exist-as-we-know-it-according-to-new-research-20240314-p5fcjz.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
I’ve wondered this. It’s not uncommon for the ‘flu or particularly bad colds to linger for months and long-term effects were probably little studied before Covid considering how common colds and ‘flu are:…
‘Long COVID’ doesn’t exist as we know it, according to new research
By Angus Dalton
March 15, 2024 — 8.32amLong COVID is indistinguishable from other post-viral syndromes and the term should be ditched, according to researchers who found similar rates of long-term impairment between people who caught COVID-19 and those who were sick from other respiratory illnesses.
The research, led by Queensland’s chief health officer Dr John Gerrard, followed about 2400 people who caught COVID-19 and about 2700 people with other respiratory infections, including influenza.
A year after infection, 3 per cent of people who were COVID positive reported moderate to severe impairment (i.e. long COVID). Among the people who had caught the flu or another respiratory illness, it was 4.1 per cent.
After controlling for factors including age, sex and whether participants were Indigenous, the researchers concluded there was no evidence that COVID-19 infection made impairment more likely.
Gerrard said long COVID appeared to be a severe and distinct disease simply because of the huge number of infections during the pandemic.
“We believe it is time to stop using terms like ‘long COVID’,” Gerrard said. “They wrongly imply there is something unique and exceptional about longer-term symptoms associated with this virus.
“This terminology can cause unnecessary fear, and in some cases, hypervigilance to longer symptoms that can impede recovery.”
The research will be presented at the European Congress of Clinical Microbiology and Infectious Diseases in April but it hasn’t been published in a peer-reviewed journal.
An earlier iteration of the study, in which the researchers reported the status of participants 12 weeks after infection, was published in BMJ Public Health last year, however.
Again, Gerrard and his research colleagues found similar rates of ongoing symptoms and long-term impairment between those infected with COVID and the flu.
They concluded in the BMJ study that “long COVID may manifest as a postviral syndrome of no greater severity than seasonal influenza”.
Jeremy Nicholson, Professor of Medicine at Murdoch University, said the question at hand was whether long COVID was truly a unique condition worthy of its own name, or just another syndrome caused by a range of viruses.
“Unfortunately, this question cannot be simply answered in this work,” Nicholson said. “The study is observational, based on reported symptoms with no physiological or detailed functional follow-up data.”
Without lab analysis of the patients, and without knowing for sure that long COVID isn’t physiologically different to other post-viral syndromes, the evidence to dismiss it isn’t there, he argued.
‘This terminology can cause unnecessary fear, and in some cases, hypervigilance to longer symptoms that can impede recovery.’
John Gerrard, Queensland’s chief health officer
“Until this is resolved, we should still use the long COVID term because it pinpoints exactly the underlying viral cause for a given individual,” which may be relevant to future treatments, Nicholson said.Gerrard is involved in continuing research into ongoing health issues following COVID-19 infection, including strokes, heart attacks and myocarditis.
“These findings underscore the importance of comparing post-COVID-19 outcomes with those following other respiratory infections, and of further research into post-viral syndromes,” he said.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/long-covid-doesn-t-exist-as-we-know-it-according-to-new-research-20240314-p5fcjz.html
It’s one of those things about getting older. “Knowledge” goes in cycles. The longer you live, the more often you tend to think…“yes, but we knew this 25 years ago…when did we forget it?”
COVID-19 Doesn’t Exist
An ABC piece on that long COVID story mentioned in this thread yesterday.
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-pandemic-dramatically-reshaped-life-expectancy-now-we-know-how-much
Covid-19 caused the average life expectancy of people worldwide to fall by 1.6 years during the first two years of the pandemic, a more dramatic decline than previously thought, a major study said Tuesday.
Swans From Sydney Are Liars
SCIENCE said:
Swans From Sydney Are Liars
And Victorians Are Trolls
https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/other/mysterious-bacterial-infection-with-high-mortality-rate-spreads-in-japan/ar-BB1k22Kk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=5c4befeb38234aa3904ee4eb8cf68683&ei=13
Japan is currently grappling with the outbreak of a rare and deadly bacterial infection, leaving experts searching for answers.
The infection, caused by A streptococcus, has been on the rise since last year, with a mortality rate reaching up to 30 percent, particularly endangering the elderly population. Despite A streptococcus typically causing mild conditions like angina and skin infections, it has now been linked to severe cases of toxic shock syndrome across the nation.
The Guardian reports on this alarming health crisis, noting the significant increase in toxic shock syndrome cases. In 2023, Japan recorded 941 instances of the syndrome, with the first two months of 2024 already witnessing 376 cases. The infection has spread to nearly all of Japan’s 47 prefectures, with the cause of this sudden surge remaining a mystery.
The Japanese Institute of Infectious Diseases has acknowledged the complexity behind the severe manifestations of the infection, stating, “There are still many unknown factors behind the mechanisms of the severe and sudden forms of streptococci, and we are not at the point where we can explain them.”
Transmission of the streptococcal infections occurs mainly through droplet infection or contact with wounds. Some experts suggest a link between the increase in cases and the aftermath of the coronavirus pandemic.
Professor Ken Kikuchi of Tokyo Women’s Medical University speculates that the immunological state of individuals recovering from COVID-19 may alter their susceptibility to certain microbes, emphasizing the urgent need to understand the infection cycle of serious invasive A streptococci to control its spread effectively.
In response to the outbreak, the Japanese Ministry of Health urges the public to adhere to hygiene practices familiar from the coronavirus pandemic, such as handwashing and cough etiquette.
Health Minister Keizo Takemi has highlighted the importance of these preventive measures in combating the spread of bacterial infections caused by A streptococcus.
As Japan faces this health challenge, the global medical community watches closely, hoping for breakthroughs in understanding and controlling this deadly bacterial outbreak.
monkey skipper said:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/other/mysterious-bacterial-infection-with-high-mortality-rate-spreads-in-japan/ar-BB1k22Kk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=5c4befeb38234aa3904ee4eb8cf68683&ei=13Japan is currently grappling with the outbreak of a rare and deadly bacterial infection, leaving experts searching for answers.
The infection, caused by A streptococcus, has been on the rise since last year, with a mortality rate reaching up to 30 percent, particularly endangering the elderly population. Despite A streptococcus typically causing mild conditions like angina and skin infections, it has now been linked to severe cases of toxic shock syndrome across the nation.
The Guardian reports on this alarming health crisis, noting the significant increase in toxic shock syndrome cases. In 2023, Japan recorded 941 instances of the syndrome, with the first two months of 2024 already witnessing 376 cases. The infection has spread to nearly all of Japan’s 47 prefectures, with the cause of this sudden surge remaining a mystery.
The Japanese Institute of Infectious Diseases has acknowledged the complexity behind the severe manifestations of the infection, stating, “There are still many unknown factors behind the mechanisms of the severe and sudden forms of streptococci, and we are not at the point where we can explain them.”Transmission of the streptococcal infections occurs mainly through droplet infection or contact with wounds. Some experts suggest a link between the increase in cases and the aftermath of the coronavirus pandemic.
Professor Ken Kikuchi of Tokyo Women’s Medical University speculates that the immunological state of individuals recovering from COVID-19 may alter their susceptibility to certain microbes, emphasizing the urgent need to understand the infection cycle of serious invasive A streptococci to control its spread effectively.
In response to the outbreak, the Japanese Ministry of Health urges the public to adhere to hygiene practices familiar from the coronavirus pandemic, such as handwashing and cough etiquette.
Health Minister Keizo Takemi has highlighted the importance of these preventive measures in combating the spread of bacterial infections caused by A streptococcus.
As Japan faces this health challenge, the global medical community watches closely, hoping for breakthroughs in understanding and controlling this deadly bacterial outbreak.
Back to the good old days when a simple scratch could cost you a limb or place you 6 ft under, which was less than 100 years ago.
monkey skipper said:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/other/mysterious-bacterial-infection-with-high-mortality-rate-spreads-in-japan/ar-BB1k22Kk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=5c4befeb38234aa3904ee4eb8cf68683&ei=13../…cut by me master transition, master of text cutting…/..
strep after covid infection (or perhaps even immunization, or composite cause) not a new thing is it, and knowledge of
perhaps add it to post-covid phenomena
transition said:
monkey skipper said:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/other/mysterious-bacterial-infection-with-high-mortality-rate-spreads-in-japan/ar-BB1k22Kk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=5c4befeb38234aa3904ee4eb8cf68683&ei=13../…cut by me master transition, master of text cutting…/..
strep after covid infection (or perhaps even immunization, or composite cause) not a new thing is it, and knowledge of
perhaps add it to post-covid phenomena
and reading this below, i’d advise reading and applying with some effort your own concepts to the words and how they are arranged, don’t want you to be arrogantly and secretly oblivious to the intention of the English so arranged, don’t let it ruin your holiday though
https://www.travelcaffeine.com/japan-face-masks-rules-recommendations-reality/https://www.travelcaffeine.com/japan-face-masks-rules-recommendations-reality/
Masks don’t work, their gaps are too big to stop viruses from getting through and they don’t let CO2 out so you suffocate and get acne.
OCDC said:
If You Don’t Like It Then Leave ¡
has me a read, something for captain gerard too he can examine the statistical spastication
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-19-leaves-its-mark-on-the-brain-significant-drops-in-iq-scores-are/
transition said:
has me a read, something for captain gerard too he can examine the statistical spasticationSo the orange hominid is even further into the negatives, eh?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-19-leaves-its-mark-on-the-brain-significant-drops-in-iq-scores-are/
dv said:
19 shillings said:
SCIENCE said:
Exactly. It’s happy as can be. It’s eudaimonia, just plug all yous humans into VR sets and play these games for the rest of yousr lives¡
—
Do you ever see positivety in humans?
https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=https%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/17366/
^
And here we go again with bird flu.
https://www.who.int/news/item/30-03-2024-2023—outbreaks-of-avian-influenza
Spiny Norman said:
And here we go again with bird flu.https://www.who.int/news/item/30-03-2024-2023—outbreaks-of-avian-influenza
Birds needs to go into lockdown for a while.
It’s just a mild CO-likeVID¡
Well shit.
“NOTE: As of April 13, 2024, the Coronavirus Tracker is no longer being updated due to the unfeasibility of providing statistically valid global totals, as the majority of countries have now stopped reporting. However, historical data remain accessible. Worldometer delivered the most accurate and timely global statistics to users and institutions around the world at a time when this was extremely challenging. We thank everyone who participated in this extraordinary collaborative effort.”
Mission Accomplished
LOL
OCDC said:
False¡
https://www.livescience.com/25535-egyptian-mummy-brain-tool.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna50199688
SCIENCE said:
free range covid and the vaccine are a fucken disaster
SCIENCE said:
Is this true?
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Is this true?
If we can believe the BBC, it seems that it is:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Is this true?
If we can believe the BBC, it seems that it is:
Seems strange. And the doctors quoted in the article seem to support it.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Is this true?
If we can believe the BBC, it seems that it is:
Seems strange. And the doctors quoted in the article seem to support it.
We mean you can find doctors to support natural immunity in preference to vaccination, and doctors to support smoking, and
… c’mon when have we ever lied to yous, everything we post is true*.
SCIENCE said:
Fuck CHINA ¡
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
If we can believe the BBC, it seems that it is:
Seems strange. And the doctors quoted in the article seem to support it.
We mean you can find doctors to support natural immunity in preference to vaccination, and doctors to support smoking, and
… c’mon when have we ever lied to yous, everything we post is true*.
*: except when being sarcyntironastical which may be infinitesimally far from all the time
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Seems strange. And the doctors quoted in the article seem to support it.
We mean you can find doctors to support natural immunity in preference to vaccination, and doctors to support smoking, and
… c’mon when have we ever lied to yous, everything we post is true*.
*: except when being sarcyntironastical which may be infinitesimally far from all the time
It does seem as though the attitude is like “welp, we only have a few more months left in power, might as well make things as bad as possible’
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Seems strange. And the doctors quoted in the article seem to support it.
We mean you can find doctors to support natural immunity in preference to vaccination, and doctors to support smoking, and
… c’mon when have we ever lied to yous, everything we post is true*.
*: except when being sarcyntironastical which may be infinitesimally far from all the time
whip those lazy geriatrics
https://www.sciencealert.com/new-viral-variant-evolved-inside-man-with-record-covid-infection
Scientists have just reported what’s believed to be the longest-known COVID-19 infection, and it carries a warning for us all.
The case, reported by infectious disease specialists at the Amsterdam University Medical Center in The Netherlands, describes a now-deceased 72-year-old immunocompromised man who had COVID-19 for 613 days – so long the virus evolved into a new immune-evasive variant inside his body.
…
Routine genomic surveillance revealed the man was initially infected in February 2022 with the Omicron BA.1.17 variant. But within weeks of treatment, the virus mutated to become resistant to sotrovimab, a neutralizing antibody therapy.
…
We Blame School Closures
And Vaccine Mandates
Good News ¡ Since We All Know It Was Manufactured In A Laboratory Speaking CHINASpeak
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-26/grey-headed-flying-fox-new-locations-victoria/103736368
This should be perfectly fine and safe and happy ¡
SCIENCE said:
Good News ¡ Since We All Know It Was Manufactured In A Laboratory Speaking CHINASpeak
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-26/grey-headed-flying-fox-new-locations-victoria/103736368
This should be perfectly fine and safe and happy ¡
Fuck CHINA ¡
https://www.yahoo.com/news/colombia-becomes-first-country-restrict-192624537.html
CHICAGO (Reuters) -Colombia has restricted the import of beef and beef products coming from U.S. states where dairy cows have tested positive for avian influenza as of April 15, according the U.S. Department of Agriculture. It is the first country to officially limit trade in beef due to bird flu in cows, in a sign of a broadening economic impact of the virus that has restricted poultry trade globally. Colombia imports a small amount of beef from the U.S. annually, according to government data and market analysts.
Sorry We Meant Fuck C…IA ¡
SCIENCE said:
Good News ¡ Since We All Know It Was Manufactured In A Laboratory Speaking CHINASpeak
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-26/grey-headed-flying-fox-new-locations-victoria/103736368
This should be perfectly fine and safe and happy ¡
They just
mean eaten, like the kangaroo and the emu and
wait
wait…
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Good News ¡ Since We All Know It Was Manufactured In A Laboratory Speaking CHINASpeak
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-26/grey-headed-flying-fox-new-locations-victoria/103736368
This should be perfectly fine and safe and happy ¡
Fuck CHINA ¡
https://www.yahoo.com/news/colombia-becomes-first-country-restrict-192624537.html
CHICAGO (Reuters) -Colombia has restricted the import of beef and beef products coming from U.S. states where dairy cows have tested positive for avian influenza as of April 15, according the U.S. Department of Agriculture. It is the first country to officially limit trade in beef due to bird flu in cows, in a sign of a broadening economic impact of the virus that has restricted poultry trade globally. Colombia imports a small amount of beef from the U.S. annually, according to government data and market analysts.
Sorry We Meant Fuck C…IA ¡
RCR
LOL you idiots birds are
not real anyway, you should always stay away from espionage drones.
Documents obtained by ABC News under Freedom of Information laws reveal at least 6,212 patients caught COVID in hospital in 24 months — 3,890 in 2022 and 2,322 in 2023. Of those, 586 died — almost six per week, on average — with men dying at a higher rate than women (11 per cent vs 8 per cent).
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/103784896
OCDC said:
OCDC said:
Documents obtained by ABC News under Freedom of Information laws reveal at least 6,212 patients caught COVID in hospital in 24 months — 3,890 in 2022 and 2,322 in 2023. Of those, 586 died — almost six per week, on average — with men dying at a higher rate than women (11 per cent vs 8 per cent).
Ah So Not All Men
SCIENCE said:
OCDC said:
OCDC said:
Documents obtained by ABC News under Freedom of Information laws reveal at least 6,212 patients caught COVID in hospital in 24 months — 3,890 in 2022 and 2,322 in 2023. Of those, 586 died — almost six per week, on average — with men dying at a higher rate than women (11 per cent vs 8 per cent).
Ah So Not All Men
well ya know, once you let covid go in schools and hospitals, job done, welcome fluid responsibility trending none and worse, of community standards
fortunately the ABC was there for everyone, helping the casual, errr, casual casual, whatever, insert your own thoughts and words at this point
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
OCDC said:
Ah So Not All Men
well ya know, once you let covid go in schools and hospitals, job done, welcome fluid responsibility trending none and worse, of community standards
fortunately the ABC was there for everyone, helping the casual, errr, casual casual, whatever, insert your own thoughts and words at this point
Yeah to be more serious we thought we’d already mentioned this decimation rate like 2 years ago but guess everyone wanted it for The Economy Must Grow¡
SCIENCE said:
transition said:Good use of decimation there.SCIENCE said:Yeah to be more serious we thought we’d already mentioned this decimation rate like 2 years ago but guess everyone wanted it for The Economy Must Grow¡Ah So Not All Menwell ya know, once you let covid go in schools and hospitals, job done, welcome fluid responsibility trending none and worse, of community standards
fortunately the ABC was there for everyone, helping the casual, errr, casual casual, whatever, insert your own thoughts and words at this point
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Ah So Not All Men
well ya know, once you let covid go in schools and hospitals, job done, welcome fluid responsibility trending none and worse, of community standards
fortunately the ABC was there for everyone, helping the casual, errr, casual casual, whatever, insert your own thoughts and words at this point
Yeah to be more serious we thought we’d already mentioned this decimation rate like 2 years ago but guess everyone wanted it for The Economy Must Grow¡
the joy of very late information is you’ve had plenty of time to adjust, acceptance and all that, more a bit of a shrug of the shoulders, in the past, history
transition said:
OCDC said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:Good use of decimation there.well ya know, once you let covid go in schools and hospitals, job done, welcome fluid responsibility trending none and worse, of community standardsYeah to be more serious we thought we’d already mentioned this decimation rate like 2 years ago but guess everyone wanted it for The Economy Must Grow¡fortunately the ABC was there for everyone, helping the casual, errr, casual casual, whatever, insert your own thoughts and words at this point
the joy of very late information is you’ve had plenty of time to adjust, acceptance and all that, more a bit of a shrug of the shoulders, in the past, history
It’s an excellent use of decimation, the best, nobody could use it better: just burn off the dry tinder, rid the population of preexisting conditions, cull those useless eaters.
As far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had COVID yet.
Michael V said:
As far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had COVID yet.Ditto me, my dad, my sister. Mum’s had it once, brother currently on his second bout.
OCDC said:
Michael V said:Can have my seventh vax now.As far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had COVID yet.Ditto me, my dad, my sister. Mum’s had it once, brother currently on his second bout.
OCDC said:
Michael V said:As far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had COVID yet.Ditto me, my dad, my sister. Mum’s had it once, brother currently on his second bout.
OCDC said:
Michael V said:As far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had COVID yet.Ditto me, my dad, my sister. Mum’s had it once, brother currently on his second bout.
Nor me or Mr buffy. Not even symptoms suggesting it. This is the longest I’ve gone for yonks without a cold during Winter. Just short of 5 years since I retired now, and the only cold I had was in late 2019 when life was really messy (Dad dying, me just retired and trying to divest equipment and stock etc, etc, etc) It was a bit of a doozy of a cold, but I doubt it was ‘flu. My patients were so kind giving me a couple of colds a year. Must have really built up my immune system. Or perhaps I’ve just been good at avoiding people since I retired.
:)
Michael V said:
As far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had COVID yet.
me either, but all fam has had it and Mr Arts twice… go figure
Arts said:
Michael V said:
As far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had COVID yet.
me either, but all fam has had it and Mr Arts twice… go figure
Still Covid-free this end too.
Arts said:
Michael V said:
As far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had COVID yet.
me either, but all fam has had it and Mr Arts twice… go figure
No COVID here. Being a hermit has benefits.
Arts said:
Michael V said:
As far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had COVID yet.
me either, but all fam has had it and Mr Arts twice… go figure
Nor I
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
Michael V said:
As far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had COVID yet.
me either, but all fam has had it and Mr Arts twice… go figure
Nor I
Not that I know of.
And that’s the way we became The Hermit Bunch!
Arts said:
Michael V said:
As far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had COVID yet.
me either, but all fam has had it and Mr Arts twice… go figure
Mrs rb and I have not had it.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
Michael V said:
As far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had COVID yet.
me either, but all fam has had it and Mr Arts twice… go figure
Mrs rb and I have not had it.
Seems this forum is a better vaccine than the vaccines.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:me either, but all fam has had it and Mr Arts twice… go figure
Mrs rb and I have not had it.
Seems this forum is a better vaccine than the vaccines.
I cant speak for anyone else, but I in general avoid crowds and large events… I’ve been preparing for COVID in this way for most of my life
RCR¡ Supplies¡
https://www.ft.com/content/bb09a03d-4a87-4cea-ae87-986769fd4680
Sorry we meant suppliesideshock¡
We Knew It ¡ All Yous Long-SARACAIDS-CoV Pretenders Were Just Drug Addicts ¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-07/qld-griffith-university-trial-naltrexone-long-covid/103800050
FK RO
CHINA ¡
Wait so if you just got 80% of prawns to wear P2 / N95 + masks, this disease would be eradicated too ¿
Oh wait no they
“It’s as uncontainable as COVID. We can’t control where the crustacean move across our coast,” he said.
meant it’s impossible to Stop The Boats, it’s impossible to have quarantine, it’s impossible to bother to do anything wegedit¡
They’re wrong though, it’s every disease with exactly the magnitude and frequency seen before¡
SCIENCE said:
LOL
They’re wrong though, it’s every disease with exactly the magnitude and frequency seen before¡
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
They’re wrong though, it’s every disease with exactly the magnitude and frequency seen before¡
Niiiiiiiiiice
gee.
Also fun¡
Surely it was all psychosomatic because they had read a lot about it on social media, right? 😬
#UniteToFight2024
Haven’t seen the evidence ourselves though so can’t tell yous how legit’.
Looks like a bunch of people who died from COVID suddenly revived on the 12th of April, but then died again a week later. I’m surprised it wasn’t in the news more.
Spiny Norman said:
Looks like a bunch of people who died from COVID suddenly revived on the 12th of April, but then died again a week later. I’m surprised it wasn’t in the news more.
They were pining and falsely counted, but not for long.
Bubblecar said:
Spiny Norman said:
Looks like a bunch of people who died from COVID suddenly revived on the 12th of April, but then died again a week later. I’m surprised it wasn’t in the news more.
They were pining and falsely counted, but not for long.
They failed it should have been between 2024-03-29 and 2024-04-01.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
They’re wrong though, it’s every disease with exactly the magnitude and frequency seen before¡
Niiiiiiiiiice
gee.
Oh Wait There’s That Saturation Thing Again
CHINA Now Running The UK
https://www.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/may/19/schools-england-police-homes-absent-pupils
Skilled Economic Management
As organisations battle to bring an end to Covid-era remote working arrangements, new research reveals some of the world’s biggest tech companies saw an exodus of senior talent when they mandated a return to the office. And in many cases, those valuable and difficult-to-replace senior workers went straight to direct competitors that offer more flexible conditions.
Skilled Health Management
The findings showed that, after three decades of life expectancy improvements and reductions in age-standardized mortality rates, COVID-19 disrupted trends in the epidemiological transition, reversing long-standing progress. COVID-19 was the second leading age-standardized cause of death in 2021, profoundly impacting global life expectancy. It decreased life expectancy approximately as much as reductions in communicable diseases and NCDs have improved over decades. The study suggests that improved life expectancy outcomes could be achieved by leveraging past successes in mortality reduction.
RCR
hilarious
Butter Lait Then Knife ¡
SCIENCE said:
RCR
hilarious
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dv said:
SCIENCE said:
RCR
hilarious
?
Apparently in the motherland they are insisting children go to school sick
and then apparently it was also recently revealed that they were giving children infected blood products in the 1980s.
RCR
Cold and flu cases are surging as Covid-19 numbers and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) are thrown into the sickly mix.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
RCR
hilarious
?
Apparently in the motherland they are insisting children go to school sick
and then apparently it was also recently revealed that they were giving children infected blood products in the 1980s.
Sorry we mean they knew about this infected blood thing for a while but it’s finally reached the payout stage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contaminated_blood_scandal_in_the_United_Kingdom
SCIENCE said:
Butter Lait Then Knife ¡
Ah they’ve noticed.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
?
Apparently in the motherland they are insisting children go to school sick
and then apparently it was also recently revealed that they were giving children infected blood products in the 1980s.
Sorry we mean they knew about this infected blood thing for a while but it’s finally reached the payout stage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contaminated_blood_scandal_in_the_United_Kingdom
That’s all right, come here and reveal some war crimes, all good¡
Fun times ¡
Fun Wait Times ¡
SCIENCE said:
OCDC said:
In short: Bird flu or avian influenza has been detected in a Victorian child after they returned from overseas.
There is a current global outbreak of the infectious viral disease in birds and animals.
What’s next? The Department of Health says there is no evidence of transmission in Victoria.I seem to recall these reassuring words from the BeforeTimes.
https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2157003/
Don’t Worry Your Government Lied About Chemtrails and Spherearth And … But Didn’t Lie About Infectious Diseases ¡
RCR
Agriculture Victoria is urging all poultry and bird owners to follow biosecurity practices such keeping poultry sheds, yards, aviaries and equipment clean and restricting contact between poultry and wild birds.
Bird owners should also ensure their footwear is clean, always wash their hands before and after handling birds or eggs, and quarantine new birds before integrating them with flocks.
Consumers should not be concerned about eggs and poultry products from the supermarkets — they do not pose a risk and are safe to consume.
Is covid still a thing?
JudgeMental said:
Is covid still a thing?
It’s peaked.
JudgeMental said:
Is covid still a thing?
Ooh I know this one!
Yes.
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
Is covid still a thing?
Ooh I know this one!
Yes.
BS
Wait
RCR
oh right it’ll peak again
and again¡
But right light lie, Confucius say COVID not still a thing, COVID now many thing¡
roughbarked said:
Two different strains of bird flu have been detected in Victoria. What do we know?
Isolate Victoria and have no truck with them.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
Two different strains of bird flu have been detected in Victoria. What do we know?
Isolate Victoria and have no truck with them.
Build a wall. We always did call them Mexicans.
Liars Tell Lies
Well that’s all right the population probably increased by 70% in that time too.
Oh all right compare peak to peak at least sheesh guess that population increased by 30% then.
SCIENCE said:
Liars Tell Lies
Liars Gun Lie
https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/cmr.00124-23
Excuse the advertising.
Probably less painful too.
coughing sneezing wheezing they telltale signs of illness and of late it seems more of us are getting sick one driver is a spiking Co I tested positive on Monday um but I think it started on Saturday I woke up with a um a cough and a sneeze more of us could be getting Co again soon that’s because a new family of competitive subvariant has arrived nicknamed flirt they derived from jn1 and before that Omicron and they’re highly transmissible dominating cases wherever they go it could even lead to updated vaccines at some stage what these variants are doing is they’re just becoming better at navigating past and around it’s not that anybody’s aren’t binding but the virus is just becoming a little bit slipperier while more of us are likely to get it these variants cause less severe disease than earlier ones the problem is a number of respiratory illnesses are also circulating including the flu hooping off so-called walking pneumonia and RSV carel suspects she’s had a double whammy I thought i’ probably knowing my luck had a combination of the flu and Co all that illness could add pressure to our Care Systems there will be more flu there is a little bit more RSV uh that the The Coincidence of these three respiratory illnesses do pose some particular challenges to healthare systems to age care one of the effects is obviously people who get sick and need hospital care but one of of the other effects is in terms of impacts upon our staff as well a timely reminder to be covid safe I would do take the opportunity to encourage people who haven’t been vaccinated for either flu or keep up to date with their covid boosters to please do so and maybe treat yourself to some new face masks Penny Tims ABC News for https://youtu.be/crv8M2eIkpE
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-25/rsv-covid-surge-in-viruses-doctors-urge-vaccination/103885698
“If the airline can show was nothing to do with them, then the limit will apply. They’ve got the onus of showing it’s nothing to do with them,” Mr Carter said. “ clear air turbulence, they might have a shot at doing it, but I think … if it’s to do with developing thunderstorm turbulence, it’s a different kettle of fish.”
“Lufthansa, Air Canada and Hawaiian Airlines have all had planes that encountered unexpected turbulence over the past few years with a combined injury count well above 100 passengers and crew,” Mr Carter said.
Thankfully no new disease in the past few years has killed even 99 people¡
Well, you know, by people we mean paying customers and taxpayers who are economically valuable¡ Useless eaters and welfare parasites don’t count, you can kill as many of them as you like, it’ll be good for The Economy Must Grow¡
As the details of the devastating injuries sustained onboard flight SQ321 emerge, attention is turning to what happens to these passengers and crew now and what can be done to make all the hours spent in an aircraft cabin safer. Singapore Airlines incident this week suggests the next frontier is avoiding in-cabin injuries and the unfortunate loss of life that can happen when a plane hits unexpected turbulence at 37,000 feet.
We mean nobody could have predicted this¡
SCIENCE said:
“If the airline can show was nothing to do with them, then the limit will apply. They’ve got the onus of showing it’s nothing to do with them,” Mr Carter said. “ clear air turbulence, they might have a shot at doing it, but I think … if it’s to do with developing thunderstorm turbulence, it’s a different kettle of fish.”
“Lufthansa, Air Canada and Hawaiian Airlines have all had planes that encountered unexpected turbulence over the past few years with a combined injury count well above 100 passengers and crew,” Mr Carter said.
Thankfully no new disease in the past few years has killed even 99 people¡
Well, you know, by people we mean paying customers and taxpayers who are economically valuable¡ Useless eaters and welfare parasites don’t count, you can kill as many of them as you like, it’ll be good for The Economy Must Grow¡
As the details of the devastating injuries sustained onboard flight SQ321 emerge, attention is turning to what happens to these passengers and crew now and what can be done to make all the hours spent in an aircraft cabin safer. Singapore Airlines incident this week suggests the next frontier is avoiding in-cabin injuries and the unfortunate loss of life that can happen when a plane hits unexpected turbulence at 37,000 feet.
We mean nobody could have predicted this¡
I get all my injectios updated on Monday.
roughbarked said:
I get all my injectios updated on Monday.
They offer RSVaccination¿
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
I get all my injectios updated on Monday.
They offer RSVaccination¿
Yes and JEV.
Fuck CHINA ¡
Wait no we didn’t say
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2024/05/23/5-tips-managing-leprosy-risk-florida/
that at all we meant something else.
Excellent
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2819370
What they mean is that in 10 years we have made glorious progress in our ability to reverse heart failure deaths ¡
Surgeon General Is A Genius ¡
Sorry we thought it was the lockdowns causing the problems.
Sure but then why are we still burning black shit for electricity, Why Are We Using Pencils To Communicate, WHY ARE WE EVEN GROWING EUKARYOTES FOR FOOD THIS IS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD TECHNOLOGY¿
SCIENCE said:
Sure but then why are we still burning black shit for electricity, Why Are We Using Pencils To Communicate, WHY ARE WE EVEN GROWING EUKARYOTES FOR FOOD THIS IS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD TECHNOLOGY¿
Not all flu vaccine production uses eggs, you’d think someone could find that out easily these days.
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:Sure but then why are we still burning black shit for electricity, Why Are We Using Pencils To Communicate, WHY ARE WE EVEN GROWING EUKARYOTES FOR FOOD THIS IS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD TECHNOLOGY¿
Not all flu vaccine production uses eggs, you’d think someone could find that out easily these days.
Rick ain’t too bright.
I thought it would be interesting to have a look to see if anyone had done excess deaths data in the washup, particularly for Sweden. I found information on number of deaths. Before COVID they had a low year, the first year they had a high(ish) year and then they went back to pretty much the expected values. The other Nordic countries had a different pattern, with later surges in deaths.
This one is just deaths, not related to population number, for Sweden
This one is weekly deaths per 100,000 for the 4 Nordic countries over a longer span. So, not excess deaths per se. But related.
buffy said:
I thought it would be interesting to have a look to see if anyone had done excess deaths data in the washup, particularly for Sweden. I found information on number of deaths. Before COVID they had a low year, the first year they had a high(ish) year and then they went back to pretty much the expected values. The other Nordic countries had a different pattern, with later surges in deaths.This one is just deaths, not related to population number, for Sweden
This one is weekly deaths per 100,000 for the 4 Nordic countries over a longer span. So, not excess deaths per se. But related.
Interesting. Thanks.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
I thought it would be interesting to have a look to see if anyone had done excess deaths data in the washup, particularly for Sweden. I found information on number of deaths. Before COVID they had a low year, the first year they had a high(ish) year and then they went back to pretty much the expected values. The other Nordic countries had a different pattern, with later surges in deaths.
This one is just deaths, not related to population number, for Sweden
This one is weekly deaths per 100,000 for the 4 Nordic countries over a longer span. So, not excess deaths per se. But related.
Interesting. Thanks.
Doctoring In Sweden Is Done To Different Targets Compared With Doctoring Elsewhere ¡
LOL¿¿¡
Die, Slaves ¡
‘Unusual’ cancers emerged after the pandemic. Doctors ask if covid is to blame.
It’s not a new idea that viruses can cause or accelerate cancer. But it will probably be years before answers emerge about covid and cancer.
By Ariana Eunjung Cha
June 6, 2024 at 5:00 a.m. EDT
ROCK HILL, S.C. — Kashyap Patel looked forward to his team’s Friday lunches. All the doctors from his oncology practice would gather in the open-air courtyard under the shadow of a tall magnolia tree and catch up. The atmosphere tended to the lighthearted and optimistic. But that week, he was distressed.
It was 2021, a year into the coronavirus pandemic, and as he slid into a chair, Patel shared that he’d just seen a patient in his 40s with cholangiocarcinoma, a rare and lethal cancer of the bile ducts that typically strikes people in their 70s and 80s. Initially, there was silence, and then one colleague after another said they’d recently treated patients who had similar diagnoses. Within a year of that meeting, the office had recorded seven such cases.
“I’ve been in practice 23 years and have never seen anything like this,” Patel, CEO of Carolina Blood and Cancer Care Associates, later recalled. Asutosh Gor, another oncologist, agreed: “We were all shaken.”
There was other weirdness, too: multiple patients contending with multiple types of cancer arising almost simultaneously, and more than a dozen new cases of other rare cancers.
Increasingly, Patel was left with an unsettling thought: Could the coronavirus be inflaming the embers of cancer?
The uptick in aggressive, late-stage cancers since the dawn of the pandemic is confirmed by some early national data and a number of large cancer institutions. Many experts have mostly dismissed the trend as an expected consequence of disruptions to health care that began in 2020.
But not everyone.
The idea that some viruses can cause or accelerate cancer is hardly new. Scientists have recognized this possibility since the 1960s, and today, researchers estimate 15 to 20 percent of all cancers worldwide originate from infectious agents such as HPV, Epstein-Barr and hepatitis B.
It will probably be many years before the world has conclusive answers about whether the coronavirus is complicit in the surge of cancer cases, but Patel and other concerned scientists are calling on the U.S. government to make this question a priority knowing it could affect treatment and management of millions of cancer patients for decades to come.
“We are completely under-investigating this virus,” said Douglas C. Wallace, a University of Pennsylvania geneticist and evolutionary biologist. “The effects of repeatedly getting this throughout our lives is going to be much more significant than people are thinking.”
But there is no real world data linking SARS-CoV-2 to cancer, and some scientists remain skeptical.
John T. Schiller, a National Institutes of Health researcher and pioneer in the study of cancer-causing viruses, said pathogens known to cause cancer persist in the body long-term. But the class of respiratory viruses that includes influenza and RSV — a family that counts the coronavirus as a member — infects a patient and then typically goes away instead of lingering and is not believed to cause cancer.
“You can never say never, but that sort of … virus does not suggest being implicated in cancers,” Schiller said.
David Tuveson, director of the Cancer Center at Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory and former president of the American Association for Cancer Research, said there’s no evidence the coronavirus directly transforms cells to make them cancerous. But that may not be the full story.
Tuveson said a number of small and early studies — many of which have been published within the past nine months — suggests that coronavirus infection can induce an inflammatory cascade and other responses that, in theory, could exacerbate the growth of cancer cells.
He has wondered whether it could be more akin to an environmental stressor — like tobacco, alcohol, asbestos or microplastics.
“Covid wrecks the body, and that’s where cancers can start,” Tuveson said, explaining how autopsy studies of people who died of covid-19 showed prematurely aged tissue.
Even as the first wave of the coronavirus pummeled the United States, public health officials predicted a surge of cancer cases. A Lancet Oncology paper analyzed a national registry showing increases of Stage 4 disease — the most severe — across many cancer types in late 2020. Baptist Health Miami Cancer Institute, UC San Diego Health and other large institutions have released data showing continued increases in late-stage cancers.
Xuesong Han, scientific director of health services research at the American Cancer Society and lead author of the Lancet Oncology study, attributed the jump to people delaying or skipping care because of fears related to the virus or because of economic reasons and also to cultural factors, language barriers and discrimination. But Han acknowledged that biological mechanisms of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes covid-19, could be at play.
“I don’t have the data to support this opinion,” Han said. “But it’s an important question to follow up on.”
‘Hopefully, we’re wrong’
The human body is made up of trillions of cells in a constant state of growth, repair and death. Most of the time, cells with damaged DNA fix themselves, or simply disappear. Sometimes, they start collecting mistakes in their genetic code and rampage out of control into tumors, destroying parts of the body.
Afshin Beheshti is president of the COVID-19 International Research Team, a group of scientists from eclectic backgrounds who got together during the pandemic to consider out-of-the-box of ways to tackle the virus. Beheshti’s background is in cancer biology, and he said that as the science on the virus evolved — including studies showing widespread inflammation following infection, impact on the vascular system and infection in multiple organs vulnerable to cancer stem cell development — he kept thinking “the signals seemed to be related to early cancer changes.”
“It kept nagging on my mind,” he said.
About a year ago Beheshti, a visiting researcher at MIT and Harvard’s Broad Institute, reached out to Patel, who is a past president of the Community Oncology Alliance, a national group of independent cancer specialists, and they hosted a symposium with other scientists that concluded compelling evidence exists suggesting links between the coronavirus and cancer.
“Hopefully, we’re wrong,” Beheshti said. “But everything is, unfortunately, pushing toward that being the case.”
The group’s loosely affiliated members are launching research studies that are trying to piece together the puzzle of coronavirus infection, long covid and cancer.
Wallace — the University of Pennsylvania scientist considered a father of the field of human mitochondrial genetics, which explores the power plants that fuel human cells — is researching how covid affects energy production in cells and how that might influence cancer vulnerability.
Separately, biodata experts are sequencing the gene profiles of organs from people who succumbed to covid and underwent autopsies.
And a University of Colorado team is studying whether covid reawakens dormant cancer cells in mice. Their provocative findings, according to a preprint report released in April, showed that when mice that were cancer survivors were infected with SARS-CoV-2, dormant cancer cells proliferated in the lungs. They saw similar results with the flu virus.
Ashani Weeraratna, a physician and professor at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said the Colorado study, which she did not participate in, is part of a new field of work that emerged during the past decade that drills into what stimuli can reawaken cancer cells.
She said it is consistent with research highlighting the importance of the immune system in activating cells from dormancy, so it makes sense that “something like influenza or covid that triggers inflammation could change in the immune microenvironment.” But the results surprised her because “it’s rare the data are so striking.”
Weeraratna said that while she believes the Colorado study’s findings are important, they should be interpreted with caution. Studies in mice often do not translate to human experiences. She said it’s also important to emphasize that the research and other recent papers focusing on covid and cancer involve acute infection or long covid; they do not suggest a link between the coronavirus vaccine and cancer — misinformation that some anti-vaccine groups have spread in recent months.
Still, Weeraratna said, there’s an important public health takeaway.
“Mitigating risk of infection may be of particular importance for cancer patients,” Weeraratna said. Based on the study’s findings, measures adopted by vulnerable patients starting in the early days of the pandemic — wearing masks, avoiding crowded places, getting vaccines — become even more important.
Other studies offer telltale clues about the link between viruses and cancer.
Pathologists from the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences reported in 2021 in the journal Communications Biology that SARS-CoV-2 proteins fueled the replication of a herpesvirus considered one of the major viruses leading to cancer. Other studies have implicated the coronavirus in helping to stimulate dormant breast cancer cells.
A paper published in 2023 in the journal Biochimie explored mechanisms the coronavirus could exploit to aggravate several forms of cancer, including lung, colorectal, pancreatic and oral. Researchers suggested the most likely pathway was through disrupting the body’s ability to suppress tumors, but researchers acknowledged a lack of direct evidence to support the theory.
Wallace believes the dearth of hard data on the coronavirus and cancer reflects policy choices more than scientific challenges.
“I would say most governments don’t want to think about long covid and much less long covid and cancer. It cost them so much to deal with covid. So there is very little funding for the long-term effects of the virus,” he said. “I don’t think that’s a wise choice.”
‘Everyone has it’
From his practice in this Southern town, Patel is conducting his own research into what he has taken to calling “an unusual pattern” of cancers. He is driven by watching patients — especially younger ones — die so quickly.
He’s looking at potential correlations between long-covid markers and unusual cancers. He has collected data from nearly 300 patients and wants to create a national registry to analyze trends. So far, his office has logged more than 15 patients with multiple cancers, more than 35 patients with rare cancers and more than 15 couples with new cancers since the pandemic began in 2020.
Patel theorizes the effects of coronavirus infections could be cumulative in people infected multiple times. Pandemic-related stress may compound the threat, he said, by exacerbating inflammation.
If a link is established between the virus and cancer, he said, doctors might identify patients at greater risk and implement screenings earlier and even put some patients on anti-inflammatory drugs.
Mammograms and colonoscopies would have done nothing to prevent the illness of one of Patel’s patients, a 78-year-old diagnosed with three cancers — throat, liver and lungs — within a year.
Then there’s Bob and Bonnie Krall, a couple who in a 14-month stretch endured three types of cancer between them, despite neither having a family history or genetic predisposition.
Cancers typically start in one part of the body and spread. It’s rare for discrete cancers to begin in different parts of the body during a short window of time. Patel said the Kralls and the 78-year-old had coronavirus antibodies “through the roof” in their blood although he’s not sure how that relates to cancer, if at all.
Patel met the Kralls in 2022 when Bob was diagnosed with chronic lymphocytic leukemia, a cancer of the blood and bone marrow. During one of her husband’s treatments, Bonnie mentioned she was dealing with her own health issues related to long covid, including stomach pain. Medications weren’t helping. Patel ran tests and discovered Bonnie had cancer, too. By the time she was scheduled for surgery a few weeks after diagnosis, the malignancy in her abdomen had grown three more centimeters and weighed 8.5 pounds. This year, Bob’s doctors found cancer in his lungs.
Bob’s blood cancer, CLL, is considered rare with only four or five cases in every 100,000 people, but he has been surprised to find four of his neighbors and friends have it, too.
“It’s like a cold. It seems like everyone has it,” said Bob, 73, a flight instructor.
Even before Patel mentioned his research, Bonnie, 74, who used to work part-time as a front desk assistant and lives with her husband in Fort Mill, S.C., had wondered whether their cancers were related to the coronavirus. She was infected shortly before her cancer diagnosis.
“Maybe if we didn’t get covid …” she started before trailing off. Bob shrugged and finished for her. “Maybe we would have been better? Maybe we would have been worse.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2024/06/06/covid-cancer-increase-link/?
Witty Rejoinder said:
‘Unusual’ cancers emerged after the pandemic. Doctors ask if covid is to blame.
It’s not a new idea that viruses can cause or accelerate cancer. But it will probably be years before answers emerge about covid and cancer.By Ariana Eunjung Cha
June 6, 2024 at 5:00 a.m. EDTROCK HILL, S.C. — Kashyap Patel looked forward to his team’s Friday lunches. All the doctors from his oncology practice would gather in the open-air courtyard under the shadow of a tall magnolia tree and catch up. The atmosphere tended to the lighthearted and optimistic. But that week, he was distressed.
It was 2021, a year into the coronavirus pandemic, and as he slid into a chair, Patel shared that he’d just seen a patient in his 40s with cholangiocarcinoma, a rare and lethal cancer of the bile ducts that typically strikes people in their 70s and 80s. Initially, there was silence, and then one colleague after another said they’d recently treated patients who had similar diagnoses. Within a year of that meeting, the office had recorded seven such cases.
….snip….
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2024/06/06/covid-cancer-increase-link/?
Ouch!
Australia hit by ‘big wave’ of Covid at same time as increase in flu.
Experts say both are at ‘critical point’ of escalation and that people should ensure they are up to date with vaccinations.
Spiny Norman said:
Australia hit by ‘big wave’ of Covid at same time as increase in flu.
Experts say both are at ‘critical point’ of escalation and that people should ensure they are up to date with vaccinations.
oh fuck.
I had been ignoring it.
Spiny Norman said:
Australia hit by ‘big wave’ of Covid at same time as increase in flu.I have my seventh Covax on Tuesday and had fluvax a few weeks ago.
Experts say both are at ‘critical point’ of escalation and that people should ensure they are up to date with vaccinations.
OCDC said:
Spiny Norman said:Australia hit by ‘big wave’ of Covid at same time as increase in flu.I have my seventh Covax on Tuesday and had fluvax a few weeks ago.
Experts say both are at ‘critical point’ of escalation and that people should ensure they are up to date with vaccinations.
Past 4 months was using about ~1-2 Paxlovid/Lagevrio per month, last week alone we went through ~8/16 respectively.
poikilotherm said:
OCDC said:Noice.Spiny Norman said:Past 4 months was using about ~1-2 Paxlovid/Lagevrio per month, last week alone we went through ~8/16 respectively.Australia hit by ‘big wave’ of Covid at same time as increase in flu.I have my seventh Covax on Tuesday and had fluvax a few weeks ago.
Experts say both are at ‘critical point’ of escalation and that people should ensure they are up to date with vaccinations.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
“At the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, the US military launched a secret campaign to counter what it perceived as China’s growing influence in the Philippines, a nation hit especially hard by the deadly virus.”
Bloody hell. An anti-vax campaign.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-15/pentagon-ran-secret-anti-vax-campaign-to-undermine-china-during-/103982430
arseholes..
Oh sorry
A Pentagon spokeswoman said the US military “uses a variety of platforms, including social media, to counter those malign influence attacks aimed at the US, allies, and partners.”
She also noted that China had started a “disinformation campaign to falsely blame the United States for the spread of COVID-19.”
wait what was that
did someone say
disinformation about vaccines and masks
might increase the spread of disease ¿
Wait
did someone say
CHINA disinformation to “falsely” blame the USSA ¿
Briefed on the Pentagon’s secret anti-vax campaign by Reuters, some American public health experts also condemned the program, saying it put civilians in jeopardy for potential geopolitical gain. An operation meant to win hearts and minds endangered lives, they said.
No way, surely not ¡
The Pentagon’s anti-vax propaganda came in response to China’s own efforts to spread false information about the origins of COVID. The virus first emerged in China in late 2019. But in March 2020, Chinese government officials claimed without evidence that the virus may have been first brought to China by an American service member who participated in an international military sports competition in Wuhan the previous year. Chinese officials also suggested that the virus may have originated in a US Army research facility at Fort Detrick, Maryland. There’s no evidence for that assertion.
Oh all right then that’s the timeline we like to follow then, sure, but since we actually don’t have definitive on how this shit started, we ask the following
If a disease isn’t a biological weapon sneaked into and released in a geopolitical rival’s wet market, to try to destabilise the rival world, then why undertake a disinformation campaign to encourage the disease to spread ¿
Beijing didn’t limit its global influence efforts to propaganda. It announced an ambitious COVID assistance program, which included sending masks, ventilators and its own vaccines — still being tested at the time — to struggling countries. In May 2020, Xi announced that the vaccine China was developing would be made available as a “global public good,” and would ensure “vaccine accessibility and affordability in developing countries.” Sinovac was the primary vaccine available in the Philippines for about a year until US-made vaccines became more widely available there in early 2022. Washington’s plan, called Operation Warp Speed, was different. It favoured inoculating Americans first, and it placed no restrictions on what pharmaceutical companies could charge developing countries for the remaining vaccines not used by the United States.
What the fuck, “global influence efforts” ¿ What if giving vaccines to as many people as possible, is simply a strategy to minimise the risk of disease spreading as much as possible ¿
Fuck.
Anyway, only people with guns shoot themselves in the foot, right ¿
Fuck Bioweapon Manufacturers
SCIENCE said:
Fuck Bioweapon Manufacturers
Sounds awful.
>But specialists weren’t much help, either. One of the two times Katie has cried about a doctor was after an appointment with a paediatric neurologist in Sydney, who she hoped would have answers for Vivien’s headaches and lost sense of smell. Instead, the doctor shrugged and said there was nothing much she could do, just give it more time. Katie was stunned; she’d waited eight months and paid nearly $800 for the appointment — she didn’t need counselling on patience. “That was the day that broke me,” she says. “We were walking back to the car, four hours from home, and I just could not stop crying. I desperately wanted that neurologist to be part of the solution. If we could just fix the headaches…”
20% do not recover from COVID within 90 days.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-18/long-covid-research-study/103986302
Michael V said:
20% do not recover from COVID within 90 days.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-18/long-covid-research-study/103986302
Yeah but remember that 100% of people who avoid SARACAIDS-CoV will not recover from it within 90 days, so people should catch it for the 80% chance of recovery¡
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:takes notes20% do not recover from COVID within 90 days.Yeah but remember that 100% of people who avoid SARACAIDS-CoV will not recover from it within 90 days, so people should catch it for the 80% chance of recovery¡https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-18/long-covid-research-study/103986302
OCDC said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:takes notes20% do not recover from COVID within 90 days.Yeah but remember that 100% of people who avoid SARACAIDS-CoV will not recover from it within 90 days, so people should catch it for the 80% chance of recovery¡https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-18/long-covid-research-study/103986302
It’s true, everyone who has ever been to Mercury has come back alive to tell the tale¡
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
20% do not recover from COVID within 90 days.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-18/long-covid-research-study/103986302
Yeah but remember that 100% of people who avoid SARACAIDS-CoV will not recover from it within 90 days, so people should catch it for the 80% chance of recovery¡
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
20% do not recover from COVID within 90 days.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-18/long-covid-research-study/103986302
Yeah but remember that 100% of people who avoid SARACAIDS-CoV will not recover from it within 90 days, so people should catch it for the 80% chance of recovery¡
As far as I know, I have not had COVID, nor has Mrs V.
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:Michael V said:
20% do not recover from COVID within 90 days.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-18/long-covid-research-study/103986302
Yeah but remember that 100% of people who avoid SARACAIDS-CoV will not recover from it within 90 days, so people should catch it for the 80% chance of recovery¡
I missed the Covid lockdowns and associated drama.
I was busy dying of, then, undiagnosed cancer which had a 70% death rate.
Didn’t hear about anything from the outside world for most of the time.
How many years have you been on the chemo, Tamb?
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:Yeah but remember that 100% of people who avoid SARACAIDS-CoV will not recover from it within 90 days, so people should catch it for the 80% chance of recovery¡
I missed the Covid lockdowns and associated drama.
I was busy dying of, then, undiagnosed cancer which had a 70% death rate.
Didn’t hear about anything from the outside world for most of the time.
How many years have you been on the chemo, Tamb?
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:I missed the Covid lockdowns and associated drama.
I was busy dying of, then, undiagnosed cancer which had a 70% death rate.
Didn’t hear about anything from the outside world for most of the time.
How many years have you been on the chemo, Tamb?
Since 2018. A weeks chemo every 5 weeks. Boring eh?
That’s a long time :)
But it means you didn’t miss the lockdowns etc (2020 was the first year of Covid in Oz).
I remember us all being worried about you catching Covid when you went for your chemo.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:How many years have you been on the chemo, Tamb?
Since 2018. A weeks chemo every 5 weeks. Boring eh?
That’s a long time :)
But it means you didn’t miss the lockdowns etc (2020 was the first year of Covid in Oz).
I remember us all being worried about you catching Covid when you went for your chemo.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:Since 2018. A weeks chemo every 5 weeks. Boring eh?
That’s a long time :)
But it means you didn’t miss the lockdowns etc (2020 was the first year of Covid in Oz).
I remember us all being worried about you catching Covid when you went for your chemo.
You are right but I have no memory of any of that.
I get fleeting memories of being taken across the overhead bridge between the main hospital and Liz Plummer cancer care ward.
Fair enough, it must become a bit of a blur after so many years of treatment.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:That’s a long time :)
But it means you didn’t miss the lockdowns etc (2020 was the first year of Covid in Oz).
I remember us all being worried about you catching Covid when you went for your chemo.
You are right but I have no memory of any of that.
I get fleeting memories of being taken across the overhead bridge between the main hospital and Liz Plummer cancer care ward.
Fair enough, it must become a bit of a blur after so many years of treatment.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:You are right but I have no memory of any of that.
I get fleeting memories of being taken across the overhead bridge between the main hospital and Liz Plummer cancer care ward.
Fair enough, it must become a bit of a blur after so many years of treatment.
The damn anaesthetic for the cataracts contains a “forget me” component so my memories are even more badly compromised.
You’re still keeping it all together though, well done.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:Fair enough, it must become a bit of a blur after so many years of treatment.
The damn anaesthetic for the cataracts contains a “forget me” component so my memories are even more badly compromised.
You’re still keeping it all together though, well done.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:The damn anaesthetic for the cataracts contains a “forget me” component so my memories are even more badly compromised.
You’re still keeping it all together though, well done.
Thanks.
Another little thing. I have had 794 needles in my tummy.
A wonder it’s not leaking like a sieve by now.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:Michael V said:
20% do not recover from COVID within 90 days.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-18/long-covid-research-study/103986302
Yeah but remember that 100% of people who avoid SARACAIDS-CoV will not recover from it within 90 days, so people should catch it for the 80% chance of recovery¡
As far as I know, I have not had COVID, nor has Mrs V.
I’m at the tail end of bout number two…
furious said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:Yeah but remember that 100% of people who avoid SARACAIDS-CoV will not recover from it within 90 days, so people should catch it for the 80% chance of recovery¡
As far as I know, I have not had COVID, nor has Mrs V.
I’m at the tail end of bout number two…
Bugger.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:Michael V said:
20% do not recover from COVID within 90 days.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-18/long-covid-research-study/103986302
Yeah but remember that 100% of people who avoid SARACAIDS-CoV will not recover from it within 90 days, so people should catch it for the 80% chance of recovery¡
As far as I know, I have not had COVID, nor has Mrs V.
I had COVID, and the only way I knew was that Ms Kingy had a close contact so we took a test which came back positive.
You may have already had it with no symptoms like we didn’t.
Kingy said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:Yeah but remember that 100% of people who avoid SARACAIDS-CoV will not recover from it within 90 days, so people should catch it for the 80% chance of recovery¡
As far as I know, I have not had COVID, nor has Mrs V.
I had COVID, and the only way I knew was that Ms Kingy had a close contact so we took a test which came back positive.
You may have already had it with no symptoms like we didn’t.
That is a possibility.
:)
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
What you mean ‘we’, paleface?
I’m not at risk. Had measles as a kid (no vaccine then).
Kids and adults who have been vaccinated are not at risk.
Anti-vax dimwits…well, that’s another story.
Agree largely with sentiment, but
vaccinated are not at risk
isn’t actually true…
So why the fuck would
There’s no vaccine available, so the best way to avoid infection is to maintain good hygiene.That includes:
- Washing your hands often and using hand sanitiser
- Washing your body and hair often with soap and clean, running water
- Keeping any wounds clean and bandaged until they heal
- Avoid bodies of water like hot tubs, swimming pools, lakes, rivers and oceans if you have an open wound
you want to do any of that if
Tokyo Women’s Medical University professor Ken Kikuchi told Japan’s national broadcaster, NHK, people’s immune systems were weakened during lockdown. “We can boost immunity if we are constantly exposed to bacteria but that mechanism was absent during the coronavirus pandemic,” he said.
¿ Surely you want to go out and smear your hands in shit and dive into still water and put dirt in wounds and swim in sewage, to get that sweet natural invincible immunity¿ Can these fuckers hear themselves¿
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-21/what-is-the-flesh-eating-bacteria-outbreak-in-japan/103996264
I’d say oops but it isn’t really wrong.
OCDC said:
Needs the winner takes it all…
OCDC said:
I’d say oops but it isn’t really wrong.
public death unit
No You Idiots Obviously They Meant The Other Pandemic
SCIENCE said:
No You Idiots Obviously They Meant The Other Pandemic
Sheesh calm down it’s mild
best thing to do is just sit down be quiet and let it rip, what a beat up.
fkn lockdowns
SCIENCE said:
fkn lockdowns
!!!
LOL fuck do the people who write or say these things
even pause to think for a moment if the shit they write or say make any sense or bear any resemblance to what they are shitting about¿
Wait what do they know that we don’t¿
Fair enough, we suppose 0 < 0.001.
Australia’s life expectancy has fallen for the first time since the mid-1990s.
Aunty
Bərn Thət Dry Təndər¡
The mechanisms of postacute medical conditions and unexplained symptoms after SARS-CoV-2 infection are incompletely understood. There is growing evidence that viral persistence, immune dysregulation, and T cell dysfunction may play major roles. We performed whole-body positron emission tomography imaging in a well-characterized cohort of 24 participants at time points ranging from 27 to 910 days after acute SARS-CoV-2 infection using the radiopharmaceutical agent F-AraG, a selective tracer that allows for anatomical quantitation of activated T lymphocytes. Tracer uptake in the postacute COVID-19 group, which included those with and without continuing symptoms, was higher compared with prepandemic controls in many regions, including the brain stem, spinal cord, bone marrow, nasopharyngeal and hilar lymphoid tissue, cardiopulmonary tissues, and gut wall. T cell activation in the spinal cord and gut wall was associated with the presence of LC symptoms. In addition, tracer uptake in lung tissue was higher in those with persistent pulmonary symptoms specifically. Increased T cell activation in these tissues was also observed in many individuals without LC. Given the high F-AraG uptake detected in the gut, we obtained colorectal tissue for in situ hybridization of SARS-CoV-2 RNA and immunohistochemical studies in a subset of five participants with LC symptoms. We identified intracellular SARS-CoV-2 single-stranded spike protein–encoding RNA in rectosigmoid lamina propria tissue in all five participants and double-stranded spike protein–encoding RNA in three participants up to 676 days after initial COVID-19, suggesting that tissue viral persistence could be associated with long-term immunologic perturbations.
“Endemic” Means Good News Right ¿
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/29/8/22-0367_article
Florida, USA, has witnessed an increased incidence of leprosy cases lacking traditional risk factors. Those trends, in addition to decreasing diagnoses in foreign-born persons, contribute to rising evidence that leprosy has become endemic in the southeastern United States. Travel to Florida should be considered when conducting leprosy contact tracing in any state.
Awesome Stuff
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that, although the incidence of leprosy has been increasing, the rates of new diagnoses in persons born outside of the United States has been declining since 2002 (Appendix Figure) (9). This information suggests that leprosy has become an endemic disease process in Florida, warranting further research into other methods of autochthonous transmission.
Fuck Yeah ¡
In summary, our case adds to the growing body of literature suggesting that central Florida represents an endemic location for leprosy. Travel to this area, even in the absence of other risk factors, should prompt consideration of leprosy in the appropriate clinical context. By increasing local physician efforts to report incidence and supporting further research to assess routes of transmission, a congruent effort can be made to identify and reduce spread of the disease.
SARACAIDS-CoV, Is There Any Social Ill That It Can’t Halt The Rise Of ¿
Lies¡
WTF
We get that our glorious country is a penal colony but
why are we sending a bunch of shoplifters and illegal protestors overseas ¿
https://theconversation.com/we-finally-know-why-some-people-got-covid-while-others-didnt-233063
We finally know why some people got COVID while others didn’t
Through a collaboration between University College London, the Wellcome Sanger Institute and Imperial College London in the UK, we set out to answer this question using the world’s first controlled “challenge trial” for COVID – where volunteers were deliberately exposed to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID, so that it could be studied in great detail.
Unvaccinated healthy volunteers with no prior history of COVID were exposed – via a nasal spray – to an extremely low dose of the original strain of SARS-CoV-2. The volunteers were then closely monitored in a quarantine unit, with regular tests and samples taken to study their response to the virus in a highly controlled and safe environment.
…
QI
OCDC said:
https://theconversation.com/we-finally-know-why-some-people-got-covid-while-others-didnt-233063We finally know why some people got COVID while others didn’t
Through a collaboration between University College London, the Wellcome Sanger Institute and Imperial College London in the UK, we set out to answer this question using the world’s first controlled “challenge trial” for COVID – where volunteers were deliberately exposed to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID, so that it could be studied in great detail.
Unvaccinated healthy volunteers with no prior history of COVID were exposed – via a nasal spray – to an extremely low dose of the original strain of SARS-CoV-2. The volunteers were then closely monitored in a quarantine unit, with regular tests and samples taken to study their response to the virus in a highly controlled and safe environment.
…
QI
It is. I’d like to know if previous exposure to any of the corona virus colds has any protective effect. I know we can never know this, however, because before COVID19 we never bothered much about putting a “brand name” on colds. We rarely bothered much even with flu.
Pseudorandom question, does dying of SARS or MERS protect someone from dying of SARACAIDS-CoV just a skin¡
SCIENCE said:
WTF
We get that our glorious country is a penal colony but
why are we sending a bunch of shoplifters and illegal protestors overseas ¿
oh
SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/all.16210
Not Airborne AIDS
Just SARACAIDS-CoV
wait
Sorry we were wrong it’s not equally bad as AIDS
since AIDS isn’t really listed as a big cause of Type 1 Diabetes¿
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/all.16210
Not Airborne AIDS
Just SARACAIDS-CoV
wait
Sorry we were wrong it’s not equally bad as AIDS
since AIDS isn’t really listed as a big cause of Type 1 Diabetes¿
I has reads related while reads what you posted, what I do, master science
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinuclear_antibody
“Antinuclear antibodies (ANAs, also known as antinuclear factor or ANF) are autoantibodies that bind to contents of the cell nucleus. In normal individuals, the immune system produces antibodies to foreign proteins (antigens) but not to human proteins (autoantigens). In some cases, antibodies to human antigens are produced; these are known as autoantibodies.
There are many subtypes of ANAs such as anti-Ro antibodies, anti-La antibodies, anti-Sm antibodies, anti-nRNP antibodies, anti-Scl-70 antibodies, anti-dsDNA antibodies, anti-histone antibodies, antibodies to nuclear pore complexes, anti-centromere antibodies and anti-sp100 antibodies. Each of these antibody subtypes binds to different proteins or protein complexes within the nucleus. They are found in many disorders including autoimmunity, cancer and infection, with different prevalences of antibodies depending on the condition. This allows the use of ANAs in the diagnosis of some autoimmune disorders, including systemic lupus erythematosus, Sjögren syndrome, scleroderma, mixed connective tissue disease, polymyositis, dermatomyositis, autoimmune hepatitis and drug-induced lupus.
The ANA test detects the autoantibodies present in an individual’s blood serum….”
From FLiRT to FLuQE: what to know about the latest COVID variants on the rise
We’re in the midst of a bad cold and flu season in Australia. Along with the usual viral suspects, such as influenza, RSV, and rhinoviruses (which cause the common cold), bacterial pathogens are also causing significant rates of illness, particularly in children. These include Bordatella pertussis (whooping cough) and Mycoplasma pneumoniae.
More…
Tau.Neutrino said:
From FLiRT to FLuQE: what to know about the latest COVID variants on the rise
We’re in the midst of a bad cold and flu season in Australia. Along with the usual viral suspects, such as influenza, RSV, and rhinoviruses (which cause the common cold), bacterial pathogens are also causing significant rates of illness, particularly in children. These include Bordatella pertussis (whooping cough) and Mycoplasma pneumoniae.
More…
Nathan Bartlett
Professor, School of Biomedical Sciences and Pharmacy, University of NewcastleDisclosure statement
Nathan Bartlett does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive funding from any company or organisation that would benefit from this article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their academic appointment.
Appreciate the candour on how this SARACAIDS-CoV shit is still fucking everyone up and it could get more dangerous at any time, but
Next-generation vaccines and therapies really need to boost immunity in the upper respiratory tract (nose and throat) to reduce infection and transmission. This is where infection initiates. A human challenge study, where volunteers are experimentally exposed to SARS-CoV-2, showed people who didn’t become infected had a robust anti-viral immune response in their upper respiratory tract.To this end, there are immune-stimulating nasal sprays and nasal vaccines in clinical development. The hope is this approach will slow down the evolution of SARS-CoV-2 and the emergence of new subvariants that continue to drive waves of infection and disease.
we couldn’t help but notice the promotion of expensive targeted pharmaceuticals contrasted with a complete absence of recognition of barrier protection at the source and outermost sink phases.
Ooooh yeah¡
Let It Rrrrrip¡
routine update
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-22/welding-warning-workers-exposed-to-carcinogens/104112530
Gosh.
Wasn’t that always the case?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-22/welding-warning-workers-exposed-to-carcinogens/104112530
Gosh.
Wasn’t that always the case?
Maybe but now that there is this thing called SARACAIDS-CoV it’s important to emphasise that
¡
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-22/welding-warning-workers-exposed-to-carcinogens/104112530
Gosh.
Wasn’t that always the case?
Maybe but now that there is this thing called SARACAIDS-CoV it’s important to emphasise that
- mouth and nose coverings are for dorks so welders only need eye protection, unless you’re alpha and then you only need unilateral ear protection
- everything else is much more severe than SARACAIDS-CoV which is by definition mild, and public health of welders or stonecutters is more impactful than public health of all SARACAIDS-CoV hosts
¡
Ta.
Well, Let It Rip® then,
they had pre-existing conditions anyway.
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
:)
We mean HIV symptoms are pretty much a cold.
I think we should rename the cold.
fever is pretty common so we suppose it should really be called a hot
probably some so-called expert who knows nothing
Memory loss and attention deficit are common complaints among those who have recovered from severe COVID-19. However, a new study from the University of São Paulo (USP) in Brazil reveals that even individuals with mild COVID cases can experience cognitive impairments more than 18 months after infection.
ahahahahahahahaha
fail
obviously all lies
https://bmcpsychology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40359-024-01740-7
If It’sn’t A Randomised Controlled Trial Then It’s Wrong
How Good Is Influenza ¿
Lies, Economic Growth Relies On Population Churn
But PhD Means Genius
Conspiracy Theorist Hides Facial Orifices And Lives In Fear
SCIENCE said:
Conspiracy Theorist Hides Facial Orifices And Lives In Fear
Ah Fuck We Got The Date Wrong That Was
Wait This Was
Yesterday
SCIENCE said:
But PhD Means Genius
LOL you see you call yourself a scientist but what would you know
move over scientist let the Real Man Who Knows How Human Bodies Work With Real Practical Expertise Being A Top Athlete speak¡
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
But PhD Means Genius
LOL you see you call yourself a scientist but what would you know
move over scientist let the Real Man Who Knows How Human Bodies Work With Real Practical Expertise Being A Top Athlete speak¡
Surprising they don’t just recommend “Eat shit”.
Study indicates vaccines targeting nose, mouth may be key to controlling spread of COVID-19
The lightning-fast development of COVID-19 vaccines just months after the virus appeared was a triumph of modern science and saved millions of lives. But for all the good they did in reducing illnesses and deaths, the shots were unable to end the pandemic because of one notable weakness: They couldn’t stop the spread of the virus.
A new study by researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis indicates that next-generation vaccines that target the virus’s points of entry—the nose and mouth—may be able to do what traditional shots cannot: contain the spread of respiratory infections and prevent transmission.
More…
Tau.Neutrino said:
Study indicates vaccines targeting nose, mouth may be key to controlling spread of COVID-19
The lightning-fast development of COVID-19 vaccines just months after the virus appeared was a triumph of modern science and saved millions of lives. But for all the good they did in reducing illnesses and deaths, the shots were unable to end the pandemic because of one notable weakness: They couldn’t stop the spread of the virus.
A new study by researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis indicates that next-generation vaccines that target the virus’s points of entry—the nose and mouth—may be able to do what traditional shots cannot: contain the spread of respiratory infections and prevent transmission.
More…
tell yous something else that will protect yousr noses and mouths
SCIENCE said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Study indicates vaccines targeting nose, mouth may be key to controlling spread of COVID-19
The lightning-fast development of COVID-19 vaccines just months after the virus appeared was a triumph of modern science and saved millions of lives. But for all the good they did in reducing illnesses and deaths, the shots were unable to end the pandemic because of one notable weakness: They couldn’t stop the spread of the virus.
A new study by researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis indicates that next-generation vaccines that target the virus’s points of entry—the nose and mouth—may be able to do what traditional shots cannot: contain the spread of respiratory infections and prevent transmission.
More…
tell yous something else that will protect yousr noses and mouths
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:Tau.Neutrino said:
Study indicates vaccines targeting nose, mouth may be key to controlling spread of COVID-19
The lightning-fast development of COVID-19 vaccines just months after the virus appeared was a triumph of modern science and saved millions of lives. But for all the good they did in reducing illnesses and deaths, the shots were unable to end the pandemic because of one notable weakness: They couldn’t stop the spread of the virus.
A new study by researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis indicates that next-generation vaccines that target the virus’s points of entry—the nose and mouth—may be able to do what traditional shots cannot: contain the spread of respiratory infections and prevent transmission.
More…
tell yous something else that will protect yousr noses and mouths
Don’t tell big phama.
These guys are prepared
communists know nothing
SCIENCE said:
communists know nothing
Bernie should be promoted.
To Colonel.
SCIENCE said:
communists know nothing
reckon I getting over another dose that, I can feel the covid-induced brain shrinkage, brian’s the size of a walnut now, but on the upside it’s working faster because all the remaining neurons are closer together
Foot Binding Good ¡
Arsehole releases more faeces.
SCIENCE said:
Arsehole releases more faeces.
the words corruptions of liberty come to mind, no idea why, couple different ways those three words in that order can be understood, depends how well the job is done, anyway I hope NSW isn’t overextended going into the financial crisis on the horizon, but I do expect strange libertarian noises all the way to the end
What’s The Difference Between Requiring Something And Requiring NotSomething ¿ They’re Both Just Requirements ¡ That Means They’re The Same And Political Team Sports Are Just A Battle Of Equivalencies ¡
LOL
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/08/1152866
COVID-19 infections are surging worldwide – including at the Olympics – and are unlikely to decline anytime soon, the World Health Organization (WHO) warned on Tuesday.
The UN health agency is also concerned that more severe variants of the coronavirus may soon be on the horizon.
sorry our bad
https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2184084/
faked, everyone knows that SARACAIDS-CoV is
Noah Lyles lost the Olympic 200 metres final, falling to Botswana’s Letsile Tebogo, then being tended to by medics who carted him off the track in a wheelchair suffering with what the Associated Press learned was a case of COVID.
mild for healthy young people
SCIENCE said:
sorry our bad
https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2184084/
faked, everyone knows that SARACAIDS-CoV is
Noah Lyles lost the Olympic 200 metres final, falling to Botswana’s Letsile Tebogo, then being tended to by medics who carted him off the track in a wheelchair suffering with what the Associated Press learned was a case of COVID.
mild for healthy young people
Noah Lyles showed no signs of illness before the men’s 200-metre race, other than the addition of a face mask. (AP: Bernat Armangue)
imagine if it said that Noah Lyles showed no signs of illness before the men’s 200-metre race, other than the ongoing use of a P2 or better face mask, and it turned out that the consequence was that he showed no signs of illness after either
Burn Off Them Dry Tinder ¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-10/adelaide-patient-died-waiting-hours-for-ambulance/104209446
¿¿¿¡¿
https://www.fox13memphis.com/education/mid-south-elementary-school-shut-down-due-to-covid-cases/article_e11d5882-59c2-11ef-a401-ef84f2d9c43f.html
https://www.wsfa.com/2024/08/13/jag-high-school-goes-remote-classes-due-covid-outbreak/
SCIENCE said:
¿¿¿¡¿
https://www.fox13memphis.com/education/mid-south-elementary-school-shut-down-due-to-covid-cases/article_e11d5882-59c2-11ef-a401-ef84f2d9c43f.html
https://www.wsfa.com/2024/08/13/jag-high-school-goes-remote-classes-due-covid-outbreak/
Covid… pfft. is that old thing still around?
nah now it’s ‘flu’ and that’s just a mild covid
No Way ¿¡
Research shows air filters in classrooms improves overall ventilation and air quality
A study born out of the pandemic is now expanding beyond concerns of just infectious diseases, and helping to improve air quality in schools across the state.
SCIENCE said:
No Way ¿¡
Research shows air filters in classrooms improves overall ventilation and air quality
A study born out of the pandemic is now expanding beyond concerns of just infectious diseases, and helping to improve air quality in schools across the state.
gosh! who would have thunk?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
No Way ¿¡
Research shows air filters in classrooms improves overall ventilation and air quality
A study born out of the pandemic is now expanding beyond concerns of just infectious diseases, and helping to improve air quality in schools across the state.
gosh! who would have thunk?
it’s antiphlogiston theory again quality only comes by adding something not removing something
All lies, everyone
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-19/long-covid-billions-economic-loss-australia/104234434
knows that chronic disease makes people work harder and more efficiently and improves their mental health and buys them coffee¡
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A new study has added fuel to concerns that America could face a surge in dementias in coming years and decades due to COVID. The research found that nearly two-thirds of people over 65 who were hospitalized with the virus went on to suffer cognitive decline, which can be a precursor for dementia, weeks and months after the infection cleared. Independent experts told DailyMail.com this is a trend they’re watching closely, since if there is a link, it could affect the millions of older adults who were infected with the virus. CDC data shows that over-65s accounted for nearly half of hospitalizations in the first two years of the pandemic, or roughly 1.7m people. The new study stops short of concluding that COVID and dementia are definitively linked, but experts described the evidence as ‘compelling’.
sorry there may have been more of a point to this but we forgot
fun time
https://www.self.com/story/covid-infection-mental-health
It turned out that people who caught SARS-CoV-2 at all, regardless of vaccination status, were more likely to experience or be diagnosed with mental health conditions—including depression, anxiety, PTSD, eating disorders, addiction, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, self-harm, and suicide—within a month of testing positive for the virus compared to the time right before they were diagnosed.
“Short Period Incidence Study of Severe Acute Respiratory Infection (SPRINT-SARI) Australia (last updated 2 August 2024) This section will be updated every four weeks; therefore, reporting periods presented here may not align with other sections of the report. Note, intensive care includes intensive care units and high dependency units that are managed by an intensive care team.
• In the most recent 28-day period for SPRINT-SARI severity reporting (17 June to 14 July 2024), there were 226 patients admitted with a SARI to a SPRINT-SARI sentinel intensive care. Patients with influenza accounted for the highest proportion of patients admitted with a SARI to a SPRINT-SARI sentinel intensive care during this time (Figure 11)
• In the year to date for SPRINT-SARI severity reporting (1 January to 14 July 2024), there have been 1,421 patients admitted with a SARI to a SPRINT-SARI sentinel intensive care. This includes:
– 49.9% (709/1,421) patients with SARS-CoV-2
– 22.5% (320/1,421) patients with influenza
– 12.5% (178/1,421) patients with RSV Interim Australian Centre for Disease Control
– 17.1% (243/1,421) patients with other respiratory pathogens including parainfluenza and rhinovirus.
• Approximately 2.0% (29/1,421) of patients had co-infections of multiple pathogens; therefore, the sum of pathogen-specific totals above may not equal the total number of patients.
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-08/australian-respiratory-surveillance-report-10-29-july-to-11-august-2024.pdf
My aunt died from RSV.
OCDC said:
My aunt died from RSV.
How long was she ill?
dv said:
OCDC said:A month.My aunt died from RSV.How long was she ill?
Great-uncle Ed has now seen all four of his little sisters pre-decease him.
dv said:
All the experts say that there is no fuel efficiency advantage to hogher octane fuel, which always strikes me as peculiar.
With the caveat to beware those universal quantifiers, all the experts told us that SARACAIDS-CoV would be over, would be mild, would be immunizing, would be over again, would be completely fine, would be training our immune systems like muscles, would be over yet again … so yeah.
LOL
probably not true but LOL anyway
fuck yeah
oh right
SCIENCE said:
fuck yeah
oh right
LOL
OK so how the fuck are these kids ever going to repay their immunity debt then¿
Schools in two states experiencing a rise in Covid cases announced they were closing facilities and switching to remote learning. Alabama and Tennessee announced the closure of two schools — affecting more than a thousand children — just days into the new academic year, with officials saying the virus had forced them to shut and carry out a ‘deep clean.’ At one of the schools, children had to abandon their desks and revert to remote learning for two days — a move reminiscent of the early days of Covid.
“ ‘Reassuring’ new research suggests heart damage caused by severe COVID-19 doesn’t worsen.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/covid-cardio-heart-damage-research/104280122
Michael V said:
” ‘Reassuring’ new research suggests heart damage caused by severe COVID-19 doesn’t worsen.”I think that <60 months of data make that a pretty big call.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/covid-cardio-heart-damage-research/104280122
OCDC said:
Michael V said:” ‘Reassuring’ new research suggests heart damage caused by severe COVID-19 doesn’t worsen.”I think that <60 months of data make that a pretty big call.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/covid-cardio-heart-damage-research/104280122
Comes under the heading of ‘remain calm, all is well’.
Don’t want the populace panicking, now do we?
OCDC said:
Fair comment, but I guess they’ve got to start somewhere.
Michael V said:” ‘Reassuring’ new research suggests heart damage caused by severe COVID-19 doesn’t worsen.”I think that <60 months of data make that a pretty big call.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/covid-cardio-heart-damage-research/104280122
We mean bullet wounds through the brain probably don’t significantly worsen until the next bullet wound either.
What
The
Fuck
Yeah ¿ Well The ANCIENTS probably said the same thing about tablets when writing was first invented too.
There’s probably a lesson in this for all of us but nobody wants to learn anything after they graduate from preschool.
“I was probably more careful than average, but not overly worried about it,” he says. Not many of his generation were. Gloves and masks weren’t on the radar. With rudimentary equipment and limited resources, David says his generation made do with what they had in front of them.
SCIENCE said:
There’s probably a lesson in this for all of us but nobody wants to learn anything after they graduate from preschool.
“I was probably more careful than average, but not overly worried about it,” he says. Not many of his generation were. Gloves and masks weren’t on the radar. With rudimentary equipment and limited resources, David says his generation made do with what they had in front of them.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
There’s probably a lesson in this for all of us but nobody wants to learn anything after they graduate from preschool.
“I was probably more careful than average, but not overly worried about it,” he says. Not many of his generation were. Gloves and masks weren’t on the radar. With rudimentary equipment and limited resources, David says his generation made do with what they had in front of them.
In the past,
I’ve asked farmers why they think shoving their bare arm into the vat to stir the solution is safe.
The answer was I get it all over me anyway and it hasn’t killed me yet.
was going to make some kind of corny joke about layers of barrier protection but figured that most farmers have pretty thick skin
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
There’s probably a lesson in this for all of us but nobody wants to learn anything after they graduate from preschool.
“I was probably more careful than average, but not overly worried about it,” he says. Not many of his generation were. Gloves and masks weren’t on the radar. With rudimentary equipment and limited resources, David says his generation made do with what they had in front of them.
In the past,
I’ve asked farmers why they think shoving their bare arm into the vat to stir the solution is safe.
The answer was I get it all over me anyway and it hasn’t killed me yet.
was going to make some kind of corny joke about layers of barrier protection but figured that most farmers have pretty thick skin
I knew one farmer who coated himself in beeswax before spraying, in the hope that spray didn’t contact his skin and could be washed off.
getting a bit triggering there this is reminding us of all the times people go to the doctor with some rash or herpes or warts or what not and they just poke at it with their bare fingers like hey have you heard of the mmmpox outbreak recently nah all good it’ll only hurt a little bit
SCIENCE said:
getting a bit triggering there this is reminding us of all the times people go to the doctor with some rash or herpes or warts or what not and they just poke at it with their bare fingers like hey have you heard of the mmmpox outbreak recently nah all good it’ll only hurt a little bit
Doctors have become less touchy feely over the years.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
There’s probably a lesson in this for all of us but nobody wants to learn anything after they graduate from preschool.
“I was probably more careful than average, but not overly worried about it,” he says. Not many of his generation were. Gloves and masks weren’t on the radar. With rudimentary equipment and limited resources, David says his generation made do with what they had in front of them.
In the past,
I’ve asked farmers why they think shoving their bare arm into the vat to stir the solution is safe.
The answer was I get it all over me anyway and it hasn’t killed me yet.
was going to make some kind of corny joke about layers of barrier protection but figured that most farmers have pretty thick skin
reading
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraquat
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
fuck yeah
oh right
LOL
ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
dv said:
… so they’ve been saying for like 200 years …
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
… so they’ve been saying for like 200 years …
¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ WTF ????????
https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(24)00236-6/fulltext
No Way ¡
oh nice this looks promising
OK so the conspiracy theorists at WHN are calling it.
https://whn.global/public-service-announcement/
SARS-CoV-2 triggers a new airborne form of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (13, 14, 15) (some are proposing specific terms such as “CoV-AIDS”). This is not AIDS as we know it from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection, it is a new type of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome with different deleterious effects on immune function (16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21), but both resulting in increased vulnerability to infections (22). Immune system deficiency and other COVID properties also suggest a potential link to greater risk of cancers (23, 24, 25, 26, 27). The “original” AIDS caused by HIV takes up to around 10 to 15 years to make its presence felt, with the initial infection usually barely noticed and often resembling the common cold or a flu-like disease until its damage manifests itself leading to death in the absence of treatments (28, 29). With SARS-CoV-2, immunodeficiency develops in the weeks and months following infection. It involves reduction and functional exhaustion of T Cells (30), enhanced inhibition of MHC-I expression (31), downregulating CD19 expression in B cells (32) and other evidence of immune dysregulation (33, 34). In one study, the dysregulation persisted for 8 months following initial mild-to-moderate SARS-CoV-2 infection, the length of the study (35). There is no “cure” for any of the damage caused by SARS-CoV-2 including immune dysregulation.
SCIENCE said:
OK so the conspiracy theorists at WHN are calling it.https://whn.global/public-service-announcement/
Okay so that’s the good news, what’s the bad news?SARS-CoV-2 triggers a new airborne form of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (13, 14, 15) (some are proposing specific terms such as “CoV-AIDS”). This is not AIDS as we know it from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection, it is a new type of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome with different deleterious effects on immune function (16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21), but both resulting in increased vulnerability to infections (22). Immune system deficiency and other COVID properties also suggest a potential link to greater risk of cancers (23, 24, 25, 26, 27). The “original” AIDS caused by HIV takes up to around 10 to 15 years to make its presence felt, with the initial infection usually barely noticed and often resembling the common cold or a flu-like disease until its damage manifests itself leading to death in the absence of treatments (28, 29). With SARS-CoV-2, immunodeficiency develops in the weeks and months following infection. It involves reduction and functional exhaustion of T Cells (30), enhanced inhibition of MHC-I expression (31), downregulating CD19 expression in B cells (32) and other evidence of immune dysregulation (33, 34). In one study, the dysregulation persisted for 8 months following initial mild-to-moderate SARS-CoV-2 infection, the length of the study (35). There is no “cure” for any of the damage caused by SARS-CoV-2 including immune dysregulation.
OCDC said:
SCIENCE said:
OK so the conspiracy theorists at WHN are calling it.https://whn.global/public-service-announcement/
SARS-CoV-2 triggers a new airborne form of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (13, 14, 15) (some are proposing specific terms such as “CoV-AIDS”). This is not AIDS as we know it from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection, it is a new type of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome with different deleterious effects on immune function (16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21), but both resulting in increased vulnerability to infections (22). Immune system deficiency and other COVID properties also suggest a potential link to greater risk of cancers (23, 24, 25, 26, 27). The “original” AIDS caused by HIV takes up to around 10 to 15 years to make its presence felt, with the initial infection usually barely noticed and often resembling the common cold or a flu-like disease until its damage manifests itself leading to death in the absence of treatments (28, 29). With SARS-CoV-2, immunodeficiency develops in the weeks and months following infection. It involves reduction and functional exhaustion of T Cells (30), enhanced inhibition of MHC-I expression (31), downregulating CD19 expression in B cells (32) and other evidence of immune dysregulation (33, 34). In one study, the dysregulation persisted for 8 months following initial mild-to-moderate SARS-CoV-2 infection, the length of the study (35). There is no “cure” for any of the damage caused by SARS-CoV-2 including immune dysregulation.
Okay so that’s the good news, what’s the bad news?
fucking migrants
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-04/hiv-aids-australia-diagnosis-data/104303204
fkn lockdowns
Neophyte said:
captain_spalding said:
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captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
South Australia has reported more than 10 times as many whooping cough cases in 2024 compared to the same time last year, as the country faces an explosion of cases.
South Australia’s Chief Public Health Officer, Nicola Spurrier, said the state was experiencing a whooping cough wave with 492 cases reported in 2024 – the highest number in six years.
“Week on week the numbers keep increasing,” she said.
There have been 25,689 cases of pertussis, known as whooping cough, recorded around Australia in 2024 so far, according to the National Communicable Disease Surveillance Dashboard.
Alternative headline: Ant-Vaxxers Pigeons Come Home To Roost
Looks like herd immunity is fading. Little Tarquin and Brunhilde better brace themselves.
Some of those homeschooling Christian fundies are just as anti-vax as the hippies, and just as much to blame for the spread of diseases once thought rare or even extinct in Aus.
Well, if this trend continues, they may not be with us for very long into the future.
Schoo-oo-oo-ool’s out! For! Ever!
We mean anti vaccination shit is completely fucked up as well but we argue that the promotion of infections for rich hybrid herd / flock immunity is the bigger undercurrent and that flock is coming home to roost too.
SCIENCE said:
We mean anti vaccination shit is completely fucked up as well but we argue that the promotion of infections for rich hybrid herd / flock immunity is the bigger undercurrent and that flock is coming home to roost too.
Wait oh what was that you
“When I have a look back for South Australia, it was about 2016/2017 when we had a very significant wave of whooping cough and then a tiny little wave in 2020,” she said. “I think what happened in 2020 was because people were wearing masks and taking all the COVID precautions, it didn’t really have a very big wave. “We are now starting to see our numbers pick up.” Professor Spurrier said vaccination was important to fight against the surge, particularly for vulnerable babies.
said¿ Wait did you just say that
because people were wearing masks and taking all the COVID precautions, it didn’t really have a very big wave
¿ Like masks and precautions actually could prevent
…
whooping cough¿
So why not recommend masks and precautions¿
SCIENCE said:
fun they get to see the sights
¡ and drink the Flavor Aid sorry we mean water no No NO ¡
fkn aotearoan communists
SCIENCE said:
fkn aotearoan communists
read that, I did, yes I interpreted the assembled alphabet
transition said:
SCIENCE said:fkn aotearoan communists
read that, I did, yes I interpreted the assembled alphabet
The economy must grow, just like Tetsuo
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The graph only goes to 2022 so perhaps he doesn’t have the latest data
What do they mean by “suicide”? You’d expect the voluntary dying stats to be rising in the enlightened countries that enable this, and there will inevitably be overlap between the suicide and euthanasia category.
wait
damn
Well you know as they
say Americans when they find out a group of fish
from the allegedly best education system in the world
LOL hämmästyivät eh LOL
Tutkijat hämmästyivät: Kun päiväkotien ilmaa puhdistettiin, lasten sairastelu väheni selvästi
LOL Vastoin ennakko-odotuksia eh LOL
Vastoin ennakko-odotuksia kävi ilmi, että pelkästään päiväkotien ilmaa puhdistamalla lasten sairastelu saatiin vähenemään peräti 18,2 prosenttia. Lasten iällä ja sukupuolella ei ollut vaikutusta tartuntojen määrään.
LOL sairastamisesta tulevat kustannukset ovat varmasti suurempia kuin ilmanpuhdistuksen kustannukset eh LOL
Ilmanpuhdistus olisi myös kustannustehokas ratkaisu, Sanmark arvioi. – Olemme keränneet dataa esimerkiksi sähkönkulutuksesta ja tulemme laskemaan tarkan lapsikohtaisen hinnan. Sen verran voin jo nyt sanoa, että sairastamisesta tulevat kustannukset ovat varmasti suurempia kuin ilmanpuhdistuksen kustannukset.
totally unexpected
ahahahahahahahahaha
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahahaha
oh wait but why mention the biggest most preventable risk factor when you can distract and misdirect instead
here babies try these other things, but make sure you churn the finances and make sure The Economy Must Grow, we promise that it’s not the infection
ahahaha
played
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ahahaha
played
played
https://time.com/7021575/covid-pandemic-19-brain-cognition/
ahahahahahahahahaha
look we know scientific american is an oxymoron or just moronic these days but
wait
SCIENCE said:
look we know scientific american is an oxymoron or just moronic these days but
wait
read that
SCIENCE said:
look we know scientific american is an oxymoron or just moronic these days but
wait
>We need to work harder to catch ourselves in the act of staying silent or avoiding uncomfortable information
OTOH, there’s nothing of consequence I can do about any of the world’s problems listed in the article, except try to keep myself out of harm’s way.
For the most part, reading depressing and stressful news will make me depressed and stressed without achieving anything else.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(24)00421-8/fulltext
SARS-CoV-2 infection causes persistent cognitive damage.
34 healthy, young volunteers were inoculated and monitored for cognitive changes over a year.
They showed lower cognitive scores, w/ significant differences in memory and executive function tasks.
Findings
Eighteen volunteers developed infection by qPCR criteria of sustained viral load, one without symptoms and the remainder with mild illness. Infected volunteers showed statistically lower baseline-corrected global composite cognitive scores than uninfected volunteers, both acutely and during follow up (mean difference over all time points = −0.8631, 95% CI = −1.3613, −0.3766) with significant main effect of group in repeated measures ANOVA (F (1,34) = 7.58, p = 0.009). Sensitivity analysis replicated this cross-group difference after controlling for community upper respiratory tract infection, task-learning, remdesivir treatment, baseline reference and model structure. Memory and executive function tasks showed the largest between-group differences. No volunteers reported persistent subjective cognitive symptoms.
Interpretation
These results support larger cross sectional findings indicating that mild Wildtype SARS-CoV-2 infection can be followed by small changes in cognition and memory that persist for at least a year. The mechanistic basis and clinical implications of these small changes remain unclear.
LOL
another bunch of so called experts who know nothing
What if schools could prevent sick days, teacher shortages and lost IQ points? A new COVID safety course lights the way.
There wasn’t a dramatic “lightning bolt” moment when Colin Kinner realised he needed to roll up his sleeves and start tackling what he’d come to see as a pernicious problem: the largely unchecked spread of SARS-CoV-2 in Australian schools.
What spurred him to act, in the end, was the growing pile of evidence that COVID was a serious health threat, and his concern that school communities seemed to be shrugging their shoulders at it.
He was tired of hearing about schools allowing teachers to come to work while COVID positive. Of sick children being permitted to stay in class and infecting others. Of schools asking parents not to tell them if their child had COVID, but routinely sending home letters about head lice or chickenpox. Of teachers and kids catching the virus and not recovering.
LOL so many so called experts who know nothing
SCIENCE said:
LOL so many so called experts who know nothing
Ya know, Mr Science, Those that think they know everything, really annoy those of us that do.
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL so many so called experts who know nothing
Ya know, Mr Science, Those that think they know everything, really annoy those of us that do.
Now, this is an expert
who for sure knows what ‘e’s talking about.
April 2019 eh ¿
you beauty
At the end of March this year, the total number of confirmed cases of mpox in Australia was no more than six.
By the end of June, that number had increased to 108.
But in the months since, the virus has surged in Australia, with cases quintuplicated.
roughbarked said:
At the end of March this year, the total number of confirmed cases of mpox in Australia was no more than six.
By the end of June, that number had increased to 108.
But in the months since, the virus has surged in Australia, with cases quintuplicated.
excellent, The Economy Must Grow, carry on
SCIENCE said:
you beauty
Afganistan.
SCIENCE said:
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL so many so called experts who know nothing
Ya know, Mr Science, Those that think they know everything, really annoy those of us that do.
Now, this is an expert
who for sure knows what ‘e’s talking about.
SARACAIDS-CoV, Is There Any Planet It Can’t Save ¿
heal our bad must be the lockdown induced brain damage
SCIENCE said:
Please draw a giant dick on this piece of wasted paper, and send it back to where it came from.
SCIENCE said:
I would think this would be illegal in Australia
Ahahahahaha Convincing Them To Let It Rip® Has Successfully Impaired Their Ability To Challenge Our World Order Ahahahahaha
From October 1, 2024 – March 31, 2025, Hackensack Meridian Health is requiring all staff wear masks during direct patient encounters at all of its patient care facilities (e.g. hospitals, physician offices, rehabilitation facilities, etc.).
During this time period:
Masking is required for patients or visitors experiencing cold or flu symptoms.
Masking may be required in specific areas of the hospital/facility where highly vulnerable patients are receiving care (i.e. NICU, BMT units, etc.).
Visitors must wear a mask throughout the duration of a visit with an admitted patient.
Masks are available at all Hackensack Meridian Health locations. This decision was made to ensure everyone’s safety and health during the respiratory virus season. The health and safety of our team members and patients has always been and continues to be our number one priority.
Look at how dirty all
those ASIANS are ¡
What
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perhaps some nerd sort aspie dickheads set out to communicate and share the goodness of their psychopathies, had a fucken idea went ahead joined parts of pangolin coronavirus with a bat caronavirus to see how bad things could good, to be ready with vaccine technology, not a few crazy worldists overlap the same type, bent on removing all geographic boundaries and keeping the manmade birds in the sky at any cost…
anyway, straight forward question, has there ever really been a properly safe vaccine for covid
transition said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
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perhaps some nerd sort aspie dickheads set out to communicate and share the goodness of their psychopathies, had a fucken idea went ahead joined parts of pangolin coronavirus with a bat caronavirus to see how bad things could good, to be ready with vaccine technology, not a few crazy worldists overlap the same type, bent on removing all geographic boundaries and keeping the manmade birds in the sky at any cost…
anyway, straight forward question, has there ever really been a properly safe vaccine for covid
for coronaviruses, and how long now have the nerds been fucking with them
transition said:
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perhaps some nerd sort aspie dickheads set out to communicate and share the goodness of their psychopathies, had a fucken idea went ahead joined parts of pangolin coronavirus with a bat caronavirus to see how bad things could good, to be ready with vaccine technology, not a few crazy worldists overlap the same type, bent on removing all geographic boundaries and keeping the manmade birds in the sky at any cost…
anyway, straight forward question, has there ever really been a properly safe vaccine for covid
for coronaviruses, and how long now have the nerds been fucking with them
how bad things could get
needs a coffee I reckons
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seems excessive
Saskatchewan nurses are sounding the alarm over a crisis in the province’s healthcare system.
On Tuesday night, the Royal University Hospital emergency room reached 350% capacity, leaving patients without beds and staff stretched thin.
The Saskatchewan Union of Nurses reported that there was only one nurse for every 14 patients at the hospital.
With no available beds, 50 patients were left to wait in the hallways.
There was a shortage of oxygen and stretchers.
Nurses are set to rally at noon on Thursday at the provincial legislature to protest the healthcare system’s ongoing issues, including ER overcrowding, hallway beds, and staffing shortages.
NDP Leader Carla Beck will hold a media availability following the protest at the legislature.
“Scott Moe and the Sask Party drove healthcare into last place,” said Vicki Mowat, Saskatchewan NDP candidate for Saskatoon Fairview.
“Hallway medicine at the Royal University Hospital, nurses run off their feet dealing with 14 patients at once, a lack of critical, lifesaving medical equipment. I cannot imagine the pain and anguish people felt last night.
Mowat and the NDP have called for immediate action to address the healthcare crisis.
“This has to stop. Saskatchewan people deserve quality healthcare and they haven’t gotten it from seven years of Scott Moe in charge,” said Mowat.
The NDP committed to spending $1.1 billion to hire, train, and retain healthcare workers.
Additionally, the NDP has pledged to keep the Saskatoon City Hospital emergency room open 24/7 to alleviate pressure on the Royal University Hospital and St. Paul’s Hospital.
“We will ensure that healthcare is delivered in the best interest of patients, not politicians,” said Mowat.
“That means hospitals that are open and equipped to care for patients in an emergency. The people of Saskatchewan deserve nothing less. The professionals working on the frontlines in Saskatchewan hospitals deserve nothing less.”
in shock breaking new discovery it turns out that people can get HIV HBV HSV HPV MPV all at the same time
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1958086/tripledemic-covid-flu-RSV
In short:
Australia has recorded its first cases of the XEC COVID-19 variant that has been spreading in Europe this year.
The mutation is a “recombinant” variant that is a mix of two previous Omicron subvariants called KS 1.1 and KP 3.3.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-08/covid-19-variant-xec-australia-explainer/104439718
Everything Is Omicron
Mask mandates returning in health care settings for several Bay Area counties
Mask mandates are returning to several Bay Area counties in health care settings as an increase in COVID-19 cases overlaps with the cold and flu season.
LOL seriously
people in hospitals by definition have preexisting conditions, or they’re old, or they’re female, they’re all going to die in the end anyway, who cares if they’re more likely to die earlier, just die already
Freedom Of Speech
SCIENCE said:
Freedom Of Speech
LOL did we say freedoM oF speecH ¿
https://stanforddaily.com/2024/10/03/from-the-community-levin-academic-freedom/
Check Out This Bastion Of SexGenDer Equality The Patriarchy Who The Fuck Knows Known As Pakistan Though
SCIENCE said:
LOL seriously
people in hospitals by definition have preexisting conditions, or they’re old, or they’re female, they’re all going to die in the end anyway, who cares if they’re more likely to die earlier, just die already
All right fellas, let’s
go go go¡
Fucking
While it poses no threat to human health, South Australia’s primary industries department (PIRSA) wants to eradicate it because it potentially reduces the yield of a plant by 75 per cent.
hell,
Mr Simonetta is speaking publicly for the first time about the quarantine restrictions placed on his business, which he said are an “overreach”.
what
Mr Simonetta believed growers should be left to manage the virus. “Nobody I speak to, whether it be in North America or Europe, has told me that their yield is reduced by 75 per cent,” Mr Simonetta said. “We support biosecurity measures but this virus is not — in our opinion and those more expert than I around the world — is not able to be eradicated. The UK claimed to have eradicated it twice. What does that mean?”
the
“I know there’s a small number of growers who say we should just let it rip and go straight to management, but while we’ve still got the evidence showing it’s only three businesses currently infected, then it’s really important that we do everything we can for eradication.”
fuck.
SCIENCE said:
Fucking
While it poses no threat to human health, South Australia’s primary industries department (PIRSA) wants to eradicate it because it potentially reduces the yield of a plant by 75 per cent.
hell,
Mr Simonetta is speaking publicly for the first time about the quarantine restrictions placed on his business, which he said are an “overreach”.
what
Mr Simonetta believed growers should be left to manage the virus. “Nobody I speak to, whether it be in North America or Europe, has told me that their yield is reduced by 75 per cent,” Mr Simonetta said. “We support biosecurity measures but this virus is not — in our opinion and those more expert than I around the world — is not able to be eradicated. The UK claimed to have eradicated it twice. What does that mean?”
the
“I know there’s a small number of growers who say we should just let it rip and go straight to management, but while we’ve still got the evidence showing it’s only three businesses currently infected, then it’s really important that we do everything we can for eradication.”
fuck.
Yeah, some sections of the bee-keeping community didn’t like the rules about importing queen bees, and thought that the varroa mite was not as much of a threat as some made out, and it’d be best left to ‘those in the industry’.
LOL
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Ein Kind in Spandau infizierte sich mit der Krankheit, es war nicht geimpft. Der Schutz gegen Diphtherie muss regelmäßig aufgefrischt werden. Ein Überblick über die wichtigsten Fragen.
Das Kind stammt aus dem Landkreis Havelland, geht aber in Spandau zur Schule. Der Fall wurde bereits am 27. September von einem Krankenhaus in Brandenburg gemeldet. Weil sich der Zustand des Kindes verschlechtert hatte, wurde es zur Behandlung in eine Berliner Klinik verlegt. Dort werde es invasiv beatmet. Das Kind war nicht gegen Diphtherie geimpft.
In Deutschland tritt Diphtherie nur selten auf – in diesem Jahr gab es dem Robert Koch-Institut zufolge hierzulande bisher 37 bestätigte Fälle, zwei davon in Berlin. Dass die Krankheit so selten auftritt, hat damit zu tun, dass der Großteil der Menschen dagegen geimpft ist. Doch mit der Zeit lässt der Schutz nach, daher sind Auffrischungen wichtig.
Big CleanAir Is Calling
$$$
¿
surely this is because lockdowns and school closures
everyone knows that mycobacteria spread like crazy during school holidays and mass shootings
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roughbarked said:
Breathe
deep¡
It’s airborne ¡
What? No mask?
we mean it’s all pretty unfair i’n‘it
Mosquitoes do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits mosquito-borne diseases.
Dogs seldom kill humans directly. Rather, they are primarily a vector that transmits rabies.
Tsetse flies do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits sleeping sickness.
Assassin bugs do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits Chagas disease.
Freshwater snails do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits a variety of tropical diseases.
SCIENCE said:
we mean it’s all pretty unfair i’n‘it
Mosquitoes do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits mosquito-borne diseases.
Dogs seldom kill humans directly. Rather, they are primarily a vector that transmits rabies.
Tsetse flies do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits sleeping sickness.
Assassin bugs do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits Chagas disease.
Freshwater snails do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits a variety of tropical diseases.
Alcohol doesn’t kill directly but kills a lot indirectly.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:we mean it’s all pretty unfair i’n‘it
Mosquitoes do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits mosquito-borne diseases.
Dogs seldom kill humans directly. Rather, they are primarily a vector that transmits rabies.
Tsetse flies do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits sleeping sickness.
Assassin bugs do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits Chagas disease.
Freshwater snails do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits a variety of tropical diseases.
Alcohol doesn’t kill directly but kills a lot indirectly.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:we mean it’s all pretty unfair i’n‘it
Mosquitoes do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits mosquito-borne diseases.
Dogs seldom kill humans directly. Rather, they are primarily a vector that transmits rabies.
Tsetse flies do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits sleeping sickness.
Assassin bugs do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits Chagas disease.
Freshwater snails do not kill humans directly. Rather, they are a vector that transmits a variety of tropical diseases.
Alcohol doesn’t kill directly but kills a lot indirectly.
It also kills directly.
Can do but it seems to kill more indirectly.
fuck
fuck off
SCIENCE said:
fuck
fuck off
oh ooh oooh
“It was my dream job. I worked very hard for that and to have that stripped away from me, so suddenly out of nowhere, I struggled with identity after that for a long time, because I didn’t know who I was or what I wanted to do.”
oh we know
we know what you could have done
you could have done something responsible for public health
¡
you could be someone who looked out for public health
¡
turns out CHINA just-a-cold virus was a genius bioweapon after all
excitement
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excitement
Vermehrt berichten Menschen, sie würden nach einer überstandenen Corona-Infektion ständig krank. Eine mögliche Ursache dafür könnte ein durch Covid-19 geschwächtes Immunsystem sein.
Doch möglicherweise ist eine Infektion mit SARS-CoV-2 immer noch problematischer als gedacht, denn sie könnte eine länger anhaltende Immunschwäche auslösen, die anfällig für andere Krankheiten macht. Ein Hinweis dafür sind Berichte von Menschen, die sich nach überstandener Corona-Infektion gleich eine Erkältung einfangen oder sogar mehrmals hintereinander krank werden. Die Erklärung dafür ist möglicherweise eine durch SARS-CoV-2 ausgelöste Immunschwäche, die unter Umständen auch mehrere Monate anhalten könnte. “Nach der Infektion ist das Immunsystem empfänglicher für andere Viruserkrankungen”, sagte kürzlich die Wiener Immunologin Eva Untersmayr-Elsenhuber der “Wiener Zeitung”. Wer sich nach Covid-19 mit einer schweren Krankheit wie einer Pneumokokken-Infektion oder den Masern ansteckt, könne sogar über Monate mit einer Immunschwäche zu kämpfen haben, da die Antikörper, konkret die B-Zellen, herabgesetzt blieben, zitiert die Zeitung sie.
Eine Studie unter Leitung ihres Kollegen Winfried Pickl von der Universität Wien bestätigt diese Einschätzung. Die im Fachjournal “Allergy” veröffentlichte Arbeit zeigt einer Mitteilung der Universität zufolge, “dass Covid-19 selbst bei mildem Verlauf zu beträchtlichen Langzeitveränderungen des Immunsystems führt”. “Selbst nach milden Krankheitsverläufen stellten wir eine deutliche Verringerung von Immunzellen im Blut fest”, erklärt Pickl. Neben einem Abfall SARS-CoV-2-spezifischer Antikörper beobachteten die Forschenden auch eine “erstaunliche Veränderung der Wachstumsfaktoren im Blut”.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
excitement
Vermehrt berichten Menschen, sie würden nach einer überstandenen Corona-Infektion ständig krank. Eine mögliche Ursache dafür könnte ein durch Covid-19 geschwächtes Immunsystem sein.
Doch möglicherweise ist eine Infektion mit SARS-CoV-2 immer noch problematischer als gedacht, denn sie könnte eine länger anhaltende Immunschwäche auslösen, die anfällig für andere Krankheiten macht. Ein Hinweis dafür sind Berichte von Menschen, die sich nach überstandener Corona-Infektion gleich eine Erkältung einfangen oder sogar mehrmals hintereinander krank werden. Die Erklärung dafür ist möglicherweise eine durch SARS-CoV-2 ausgelöste Immunschwäche, die unter Umständen auch mehrere Monate anhalten könnte. “Nach der Infektion ist das Immunsystem empfänglicher für andere Viruserkrankungen”, sagte kürzlich die Wiener Immunologin Eva Untersmayr-Elsenhuber der “Wiener Zeitung”. Wer sich nach Covid-19 mit einer schweren Krankheit wie einer Pneumokokken-Infektion oder den Masern ansteckt, könne sogar über Monate mit einer Immunschwäche zu kämpfen haben, da die Antikörper, konkret die B-Zellen, herabgesetzt blieben, zitiert die Zeitung sie.
Eine Studie unter Leitung ihres Kollegen Winfried Pickl von der Universität Wien bestätigt diese Einschätzung. Die im Fachjournal “Allergy” veröffentlichte Arbeit zeigt einer Mitteilung der Universität zufolge, “dass Covid-19 selbst bei mildem Verlauf zu beträchtlichen Langzeitveränderungen des Immunsystems führt”. “Selbst nach milden Krankheitsverläufen stellten wir eine deutliche Verringerung von Immunzellen im Blut fest”, erklärt Pickl. Neben einem Abfall SARS-CoV-2-spezifischer Antikörper beobachteten die Forschenden auch eine “erstaunliche Veränderung der Wachstumsfaktoren im Blut”.
Vorsprung dur technik.
LOL
LOL
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LOL
welcome the dickhead world with no boundaries, no geographic barriers, driven by a monstrous delusional comfort of the species being everywhere and unstoppable, diluting all natural barriers to the point of eliminating them, really that’s ideology, applied, a lot of which lends to stupid unintentionality instrumental to the way, of course it requires exactly that to sustain itself, more of the same, and who really wants to be responsible for eight billion whatever, and who could – nobody in a word – and that’s exactly what modern man gets off on, their own multiplied to a casual obscenity that is everywhere, the force of overabundant stupid, which the delusional idiots might refer to as a force of nature, see it that way, because they are idiots empowered by their numbers and technology, idiocy amplified
transition said:
SCIENCE said:LOL
welcome the dickhead world with no boundaries, no geographic barriers, driven by a monstrous delusional comfort of the species being everywhere and unstoppable, diluting all natural barriers to the point of eliminating them, really that’s ideology, applied, a lot of which lends to stupid unintentionality instrumental to the way, of course it requires exactly that to sustain itself, more of the same, and who really wants to be responsible for eight billion whatever, and who could – nobody in a word – and that’s exactly what modern man gets off on, their own multiplied to a casual obscenity that is everywhere, the force of overabundant stupid, which the delusional idiots might refer to as a force of nature, see it that way, because they are idiots empowered by their numbers and technology, idiocy amplified
Could you please translate that to an English that even me, a dumb retired geologist, might understand?
Michael V said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:LOL
welcome the dickhead world with no boundaries, no geographic barriers, driven by a monstrous delusional comfort of the species being everywhere and unstoppable, diluting all natural barriers to the point of eliminating them, really that’s ideology, applied, a lot of which lends to stupid unintentionality instrumental to the way, of course it requires exactly that to sustain itself, more of the same, and who really wants to be responsible for eight billion whatever, and who could – nobody in a word – and that’s exactly what modern man gets off on, their own multiplied to a casual obscenity that is everywhere, the force of overabundant stupid, which the delusional idiots might refer to as a force of nature, see it that way, because they are idiots empowered by their numbers and technology, idiocy amplified
Could you please translate that to an English that even me, a dumb retired geologist, might understand?
that’s called a rant, am I allowed a rant, do I have to make sense all the time, what sort of tyranny would that be
start of the situation today, and ask, are people more or less inclined to accept infections liberally transmitting around the place, did they get any more honest since the obvious part of the covid pandemic seems to be behind them, is it really behind them, when was the worst of it really over
there was a time distance between things and geography were natural barriers to infection transmission, now they bring the shit back from bat caves and mess with it to see how bad things might be, I ask did that happen, did someone combine parts of a couple different covid viruses, oddly it goes unconfirmed, lost in uncertainty, convenient uncertainty
it’s bad enough they bring the samples back, lots of them
anyways i’d further ask what does the human species want from there being so many of their own, so many wanting to travel freely, what do they want really from the comfort of there being so many, so much travel
Michael V said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
welcome the dickhead world with no boundaries, no geographic barriers, driven by a monstrous delusional comfort of the species being everywhere and unstoppable, diluting all natural barriers to the point of eliminating them, really that’s ideology, applied, a lot of which lends to stupid unintentionality instrumental to the way, of course it requires exactly that to sustain itself, more of the same, and who really wants to be responsible for eight billion whatever, and who could – nobody in a word – and that’s exactly what modern man gets off on, their own multiplied to a casual obscenity that is everywhere, the force of overabundant stupid, which the delusional idiots might refer to as a force of nature, see it that way, because they are idiots empowered by their numbers and technology, idiocy amplified
Could you please translate that to an English that even me, a dumb retired geologist, might understand?
“Hey sure looks like getting SARACAIDS-CoV infection during pregnancy causes a lot of bad stuff¡”
“Yeah¡ Good point¡ That means we should watch and see more people get infected while pregnant so we can get enough data to say for sure just how bad¡”
got a suggestion for yous fellas
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-29/covid-response-review-released/104531920
good luck when the war comes
SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-29/covid-response-review-released/104531920
good luck when the war comes
yeah the ABC coverage in that doesn’t really get to the initial problems, dealing with the larger disease profile – the unknowns, large part of is the number of deaths caused, also morbidity caused, rate of spread, and importantly the multilayered prevention of spread, particularly the requirement of front-end blocking.
to put it simply for my worldist friends in the ABC, the response and what is accepted is largely determined by how many people the disease kills and injures, and the rate it does, so for example if a new pandemic looks to be killing 10% of people it infects and the disease spreads quickly(highly contagious), you can be sure things will lock down in a big hurry
Breaking News: School Holidays Fuck People Up
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-31/covid-pandemic-review-school-closures/104539046
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SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-29/covid-response-review-released/104531920
good luck when the war comes
yeah the ABC coverage in that doesn’t really get to the initial problems, dealing with the larger disease profile – the unknowns, large part of is the number of deaths caused, also morbidity caused, rate of spread, and importantly the multilayered prevention of spread, particularly the requirement of front-end blocking.
to put it simply for my worldist friends in the ABC, the response and what is accepted is largely determined by how many people the disease kills and injures, and the rate it does, so for example if a new pandemic looks to be killing 10% of people it infects and the disease spreads quickly(highly contagious), you can be sure things will lock down in a big hurry
wait
oh
wait
SCIENCE said:
wait
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2116352/covid-longue-sras-cov2-pandemie-risque
Alors que la COVID-19 continue de circuler abondamment, un rapport de l’INSPQ prévient que le risque d’être atteint de la COVID longue augmente à chaque réinfection et note que le système de santé québécois ne réussit pas à aider le nombre croissant de personnes qui ont des symptômes persistants depuis des mois, voire des années.
Le rapport de l’Institut national de la santé publique du Québec (Nouvelle fenêtre) (INSPQ), qui a sondé des milliers de travailleurs de la santé au Québec infectés entre le début de la pandémie et l’été 2023, a été publié sans grand bruit lundi. Pourtant, ce rapport prévient que l’affection post-COVID, communément appelée COVID longue, touche de plus en plus de personnes.
C’est une problématique importante et réelle. On veut qu’il y ait une conscientisation auprès du public et des autorités de santé publique, dit Sara Carazo, une des auteurs du rapport.
Les auteurs du rapport préviennent que le nombre élevé de personnes atteintes de la COVID longue pose de “grands défis” au système de santé et à “la société québécoise de façon plus générale”. Le rapport note que la pénurie de main-d’œuvre serait exacerbée par un nombre élevé de personnes atteintes de la COVID longue et qui ne peuvent plus travailler ou qui ont dû réduire leur charge de travail. Une revue de synthèse canadienne a permis d’apprendre que près de 20 % des personnes atteintes de la COVID longue ont été absentes au travail pendant une période supérieure à six mois.
Critical Thinking
LOL
fucking lockdowns and school closures, this is all because Australians weren’t exposed to TB back in 2020, the idiots
Tuberculosis cases are at a record high, according to a new report from the World Health Organization (WHO). The global health body revealed that approximately 8.2 million people were newly diagnosed with TB in 2023, marking the highest number recorded since WHO began monitoring the disease in 1995.
SCIENCE said:
LOL
fucking lockdowns and school closures, this is all because Australians weren’t exposed to TB back in 2020, the idiots
Tuberculosis cases are at a record high, according to a new report from the World Health Organization (WHO). The global health body revealed that approximately 8.2 million people were newly diagnosed with TB in 2023, marking the highest number recorded since WHO began monitoring the disease in 1995.
sorry, as ChrispenEvan suggests, forgot link
https://www.gbnews.com/health/tuberculosis-symptoms-treatment-causes-vaccine
This represents a significant increase from the 7.5 million cases reported in 2022. The alarming figures have propelled TB back to its position as the leading infectious disease killer in 2023, surpassing COVID-19.
LOL well that’s all right then
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
fucking lockdowns and school closures, this is all because Australians weren’t exposed to TB back in 2020, the idiots
Tuberculosis cases are at a record high, according to a new report from the World Health Organization (WHO). The global health body revealed that approximately 8.2 million people were newly diagnosed with TB in 2023, marking the highest number recorded since WHO began monitoring the disease in 1995.
sorry, as ChrispenEvan suggests, forgot link
https://www.gbnews.com/health/tuberculosis-symptoms-treatment-causes-vaccine
This represents a significant increase from the 7.5 million cases reported in 2022. The alarming figures have propelled TB back to its position as the leading infectious disease killer in 2023, surpassing COVID-19.
LOL well that’s all right then
/us rubs hands
Hey bring it on remember when
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-02/western-sydney-four-years-on-from-covid-19-pandemic/104549582
people would laugh at Wuhan and blame CHINA and
oh wait they still do damn LOL so unfair
wait
¿
LOL fuck
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-02/mesothelioma-asbestos-exposure-cancer-reform/104546126
Leanne Pilkington says any regulations must be balanced. (Supplied: REIA)
Asbestos fences, roofs and vinyl floor tiles are other examples of non-friable products.
“Ultimately, any regulation should strike a balance between protecting public health and maintaining a reasonable burden for property owners,” Ms Pilkington said.
LOL guess
The main messages of this report are:
- influenza activity increased across some indicators but remained at low levels
- COVID-19 activity remained stable or decreased slightly across most indicators, and was at low levels
- respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) remained low overall with increasing activity across most indicators, with more pronounced increases in those aged below 5 years
that’s not the same low then
The number of sick days taken in Germany has risen sharply since the pandemic. Why? https://on.ft.com/4hvxxxT
https://www.ft.com/content/8e7bc450-7dc7-45c2-82ed-99ab2a8c4952
fkn 2015 to 2018 lockdowns and school closures
Ah But You See, Raising Children Is Expensive, That’s The Secret
speaking of
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamadermatology/article-abstract/2825849
Question Is COVID-19 infection associated with an increased long-term risk of autoimmune and autoinflammatory connective tissue disorders?
Results A total of 6 912 427 participants (53.6% male; mean age, 53.39 years) consisting of 3 145 388 with COVID-19 and 3 767 039 controls with an observational period of more than 180 days were included. Alopecia areata (adjusted hazard ratio , 1.11 ), alopecia totalis (AHR, 1.24 ), vitiligo (AHR, 1.11 ), Behçet disease (AHR, 1.45 ), Crohn disease (AHR, 1.35 ), ulcerative colitis (AHR, 1.15 ), rheumatoid arthritis (AHR, 1.09 ), systemic lupus erythematosus (AHR, 1.14 ), Sjögren syndrome (AHR, 1.13 ), ankylosing spondylitis (AHR, 1.11 ), and bullous pemphigoid (AHR, 1.62 ) were associated with higher risk in the COVID-19 group. Subgroup analyses revealed that demographic factors, including male and female sex, age younger than 40 years, and age 40 years and older, exhibited diverse associations with the risk of autoimmune and autoinflammatory outcomes. In addition, severe COVID-19 infection requiring intensive care unit admission, the Delta period, and not being vaccinated were associated with higher risk.
LOL
LOL
LOL
SARACAIDS-CoV Is But A Mirror To Humanity
mysterious
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-11/gastro-cases-in-australia-are-surging/104562748
oh also
ahahahahahaha
tell yous what else is a “gastro” ahahahaha
poliomyelitis
LOL
SCIENCE said:
mysterious
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-11/gastro-cases-in-australia-are-surging/104562748
oh also
ahahahahahaha
tell yous what else is a “gastro” ahahahaha
poliomyelitis
LOL
i’m consulting my epidemiological knowledge, which includes some developed concepts regard cavalier stupid where that stupid has an enhanced social dimension, a way that generates more of itself, an amplification
an uncontainable virus came along, possibly enhanced in a laboratory, anyway normalizing the situation of unrestrained travel of pathogens, largely via airplanes, requires diminished responsibility, sort of intentional obliviousness if you will, which the large-brained human species are naturally good at, add some license to that via mechanisms of culture and its an unstoppable force, and anyways as it goes the virus is everywhere, evolving quickly, has eight-billion-abundantly-travelling-humans equivalent to a truly monstrous petri dish, virus fucks people up, vaccine’s a bit wobbly, and you know people switched to an attitude of intentionally spreading shit around, otherwise you’d get immunity deficit, ya see the dumb shit in that, so expect to drink other peoples shit in swimming pools and whatever
transition said:
SCIENCE said:mysterious
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-11/gastro-cases-in-australia-are-surging/104562748
oh also
ahahahahahaha
tell yous what else is a “gastro” ahahahaha
poliomyelitis
LOL
i’m consulting my epidemiological knowledge, which includes some developed concepts regard cavalier stupid where that stupid has an enhanced social dimension, a way that generates more of itself, an amplification
an uncontainable virus came along, possibly enhanced in a laboratory, anyway normalizing the situation of unrestrained travel of pathogens, largely via airplanes, requires diminished responsibility, sort of intentional obliviousness if you will, which the large-brained human species are naturally good at, add some license to that via mechanisms of culture and its an unstoppable force, and anyways as it goes the virus is everywhere, evolving quickly, has eight-billion-abundantly-travelling-humans equivalent to a truly monstrous petri dish, virus fucks people up, vaccine’s a bit wobbly, and you know people switched to an attitude of intentionally spreading shit around, otherwise you’d get immunity deficit, ya see the dumb shit in that, so expect to drink other peoples shit in swimming pools and whatever
You have a way with words. ;)
SCIENCE said:
mysterious
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-11/gastro-cases-in-australia-are-surging/104562748
oh also
ahahahahahaha
tell yous what else is a “gastro” ahahahaha
poliomyelitis
LOL
It’s over now son., the dampanic is over.
Let’s go and have a cup of tea, puts arm around science.
Peak Warming Man said:
SCIENCE said:mysterious
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-11/gastro-cases-in-australia-are-surging/104562748
oh also
ahahahahahaha
tell yous what else is a “gastro” ahahahaha
poliomyelitis
LOL
It’s over now son., the dampanic is over.
Let’s go and have a cup of tea, puts arm around science.
I’ll come have that cup of tea with youse guys, and reminisce about one of my god mothers who had had polio and was really affected for the rest of her life. The public relief when the vaccine came in and us little Aussie kiddies lined up for it, thanks to all those public do-gooders. Thank goodness those days are over and we can now be influenced by the free thinkers of this world….
ruby said:
Peak Warming Man said:
SCIENCE said:mysterious
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-11/gastro-cases-in-australia-are-surging/104562748
oh also
ahahahahahaha
tell yous what else is a “gastro” ahahahaha
poliomyelitis
LOL
It’s over now son., the dampanic is over.
Let’s go and have a cup of tea, puts arm around science.
I’ll come have that cup of tea with youse guys, and reminisce about one of my god mothers who had had polio and was really affected for the rest of her life. The public relief when the vaccine came in and us little Aussie kiddies lined up for it, thanks to all those public do-gooders. Thank goodness those days are over and we can now be influenced by the free thinkers of this world….
Hear hear.
SCIENCE said:
mysterious
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-11/gastro-cases-in-australia-are-surging/104562748
oh also
ahahahahahaha
tell yous what else is a “gastro” ahahahaha
poliomyelitis
LOL
reading
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptosporidiosis
roughbarked said:
ruby said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s over now son., the dampanic is over.
Let’s go and have a cup of tea, puts arm around science.
I’ll come have that cup of tea with youse guys, and reminisce about one of my god mothers who had had polio and was really affected for the rest of her life. The public relief when the vaccine came in and us little Aussie kiddies lined up for it, thanks to all those public do-gooders. Thank goodness those days are over and we can now be influenced by the free thinkers of this world….
Hear hear.
shrug not like the biggest shit festival in the world is going to keep vaccinating against
wait
is gastroenteritis like poliomyelitis also like a shit festival
oh
wait
LOL
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World number two Alexander Zverev said that 25% of lungs weren’t working after having pneumonia in late September. “I ended up in hospital before the Laver Cup when I had a fever of 40 degrees Celsius for three days in a row and at some point I felt like I couldn’t breathe,” he said after his win in the ATP Finals opener on Monday. Zverev has been suffering from the effects of a pneumonia for some time, complaining of fever and cough at the Laver Cup in Berlin in September. He subsequently withdrew from the China Open in Beijing and failed to reach the round of 16 at the Shanghai Masters, but won the Paris Masters earlier this month.
oh also ¡ fuck CHINA ¡ of course
“I’m getting tired a bit more quicker. But I’m feeling okay. Which doesn’t mean that my longs are 100% but right now I feel fit again,” he said after the 6-4, 6-4 win against Andrey Rublev. Zverev had previously said that he expects to be 100% fit for the Australian Open next January.
hey did yous know that putting your seat belt on after the crash
will prevent injury
nice now chase the lead that a new infectious disease may cause harm, with at least the same vigour and intensity
nah it’s acceptable to blame the vaccine, not so much the cause of why yous needed to have a vaccine in the first place
SCIENCE said:
nice now chase the lead that a new infectious disease may cause harm, with at least the same vigour and intensity
nah it’s acceptable to blame the vaccine, not so much the cause of why yous needed to have a vaccine in the first place
The world seems more full of crazies every day.
LOL
well that’s easy
Covid-19 may lead to longest period of peacetime excess mortality, says new Swiss Re report
just start more wars and it won’t be the “longest period of peacetime excess mortality” any more will it
dumb
roughbarked said:
I’m surprised that SCIENCE hasn’t reported this: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-26/whooping-cough-vaccine-numbers-down-cases-surge/104644340
yeah we have vaccination up our sleeve and P2 mask on our face so we’re off our caring too much about pertussis these days game since it’ll almost certainly kill someone else but if yous want reported then noting that we have no personal connection to this person so don’t worry but this is news
wouldn’t wish new age poliomyelitis sorry we mean acute inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy on any comrade
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
transition said:
my reading among others
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_hypoxia
“Silent hypoxia (also known as happy hypoxia) is generalised hypoxia that does not coincide with shortness of breath. This presentation is known to be a complication of COVID-19, and is also known in walking pneumonia, altitude sickness, and rebreather diving.
CausesOne theory relating to COVID-19 presentation suggests the impaired processing of severe hypoxia and resumption of normal breathing may be due to the neurological pathway by which the virus spreads from the oral cavity to the brain. It is speculated that this condition is caused by SARS-CoV-2 affecting the blood flow of the lungs’ airways, in addition to the blood vessels within the lungs, which must match in order to allow proper airflow, but not affecting them enough to cause shortness of breath. It is also speculated that silent hypoxia may be caused by the formation of small blood clots within the lungs. It has been shown that the breathing rates of patients with COVID-19 gradually increase, which in turn leads to silent hypoxia. It has also been shown that COVID-19 patients experience lesser levels of shortness of breath after exercise than non-COVID-19 patients.
In healthy people this presentation can occur when the person breathes a gas which has a low oxygen content, and also a low carbon dioxide content, so there is no hypercapnic alarm response….”
and now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercapnia
Deserves a thread I think.
sounds fun
SCIENCE said:
so there
i’m sure it’s true to the extent it’s true, it’s probably also true that a lot of people are attracted to monistic explanations
transition said:
SCIENCE said:so there
i’m sure it’s true to the extent it’s true, it’s probably also true that a lot of people are attracted to monistic explanations
could make a neat sand in your eyes distraction also, sort of help deliver truth into an unfindable oblivion, i’ve not once detected a tendency in humans for preferred explanations, not once seen evidence of or for it, never had cause to study the various utility of an example preferred explanation
roughbarked said:
alarmist garbage, this is just a mild ‘flu that’s good for your rich hybrid herd immunity savings
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/medical-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/bhattacharya-decide-fate-medical-research?s=04
JudgeMental said:
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/medical-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/bhattacharya-decide-fate-medical-research?s=04
As SCIENCE would say, Let ‘er rip.
what
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
FA&FO, antivaxx raw-milk homeopathic parents.
We heard that measles and other highly infectious viruses cause immune suppression and we heard that the immune system fights off infections so oh yeah Let It Rip®¡
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
FA&FO, antivaxx raw-milk homeopathic parents.
We heard that measles and other highly infectious viruses cause immune suppression and we heard that the immune system fights off infections so oh yeah Let It Rip®¡
wait
ah fuck
Children experience weakened immunity and bacterial infections after suffering from long Covid-19 syndrome, a study published in the medical journal Nature has revealed.
oh well lucky children are short
ooh look academic journals still shilling for dirty CHINA when everyone knows it’s their fault
“Ah … ahh … aaaaah.”
wait that’s nothing to sneeze at
SCIENCE said:
“Ah … ahh … aaaaah.”
wait that’s nothing to sneeze at
It is Corvid. ;)
Might get one of these masks to walk around in. Should help people stay clear of us.
UK buys 5 million vaccine shots to prepare for H5N1 pandemic
The jabs are being stockpiled in case H5N1 adapts to spread between humans
Britain has secured five million doses of H5 bird flu vaccine to prepare for a possible global pandemic, the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) announced today.
The jabs, made in Liverpool, are being stockpiled in case H5N1 bird flu adapts to spread between humans – which could trigger a pandemic – the agency said.
H5N1 has spread rapidly in farms across the US and Europe in recent months, with more than 50 human cases recorded in the US alone.
The vaccine has been developed by the Australian-owned company CSL Seqirus (CSLS) at its main UK manufacturing plant in Speke, Liverpool.
They have already been used to protect workers in Finland, where H5N1 spread amongst farmed mink last year. The Finnish government procured 10,000 doses – although only 450 people took up the offer to get jabbed.
This year, the virus – which originated in birds but has shown the ability to ‘jump’ to other mammals – has rapidly spread amongst US dairy cattle this year.
The people infected in the US have mainly been farm workers who suffered only very mild diseases.
However, a teenager who recently acquired the infection in Canada through an unknown source has been in critical condition for over a month and remains in intensive care.
LOL guess it was easy to miss
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-09/queensland-lab-breach-missing-vials-virus-health/104701198
LOL
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/covid-19-linked-more-heart-complications-flu-rsv
A new study published in BMC Cardiovascular Disorders shows that pediatric and young adult COVID-19 patients are more at risk for cardiac complications than flu or RSV patients of the same age.
https://bmccardiovascdisord.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12872-024-04366-0
JudgeMental said:
https://www.sciencealert.com/theres-a-simple-method-to-reduce-alcohol-intake-scientists-say-and-it-works
Thanks.
Turns out there is increasing evidence that suggests SARACAIDS-CoV infection increases the risk and progression rate of cancer.
SCIENCE said:
thank God it’s not more related to international travel, laxness around that and keenness to normalize high levels of transmission, and thank God also spread of covid infection in hospitals and schools wasn’t made normal, to help help make it normal for everyone
let there be no interruptions to rampant covid
Good News ¡ There Really Is A Final Solution To The Housing Crisis ¡
https://www.iflscience.com/second-most-cited-paper-to-ever-be-withdrawn-finally-retracted-after-4-year-controversy-77305
A controversial 2020 study that claimed the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine showed promise for treating COVID-19 has been retracted, after sparking widespread criticism from scientists ever since its publication.
JudgeMental said:
https://www.iflscience.com/second-most-cited-paper-to-ever-be-withdrawn-finally-retracted-after-4-year-controversy-77305
A controversial 2020 study that claimed the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine showed promise for treating COVID-19 has been retracted, after sparking widespread criticism from scientists ever since its publication.
¡ yous can feed a shrill some wormer but yous can’t make them think !
LOL
nobody could have predicted Christmas approaching
is it the adenovirus or is it the dogs or is it the video games or is it the communists
A ‘superfit healthy eater’ is facing a life of paralysis after suffering a shock stroke at just 30 years-old — as cases of attacks in Brits under 50s continue to soar. Liam Rudd, a mechanic from Guildford, had just moved to the Australian Gold Coast when he suffered the deadly stroke, causing him to immediately collapse in the shower.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14224035/young-stroke-crisis-rising-numbers-50s.html
oh wait it’s been increasing over 20 years that’s all right then
Exposure to Covid in utero may have led to a higher risk of developmental delays and autism spectrum disorder, according to a UCLA study of women who tested positive while pregnant. While the finding isn’t conclusive, with other research reporting little to no risk of developmental or behavioral issues, scientists say the study still warrants serious attention. It’s also a reminder that the pandemic’s health consequences, including higher risks for dementia and heart disease, continue to unravel almost five years after the pandemic began.
Bloomberg Email Newsletter.
LOL
SCIENCE said:
LOL
magic
Nearly 300 British doctors, nurses and other health workers with long Covid are suing the health service for compensation, saying they were not given proper protection during the pandemic. They say their lives have been devastated by a host of severe health complications. Most cannot return to work and many are housebound. “This is life-changing. People are really suffering financially. Some are living in poverty,” said nurse Rachel Hext, one of the claimants. “We’re suing because this is the only way of providing for our futures.”
Just Asking Questions
What We Know About Covid’s Impact on Your Brain
Scientists are worried that persisting cognitive issues may signal a coming surge of dementia and other mental conditions.
