Date: 16/02/2024 07:45:06
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2125882
Subject: Nasa returns to the Moon

SpaceX launches a commercial lander to the moon in historic mission
If successful, the lunar landing would be the first by a U.S. spacecraft since Apollo 17 in 1972 and the first commercial vehicle ever to touch down

By Christian Davenport
Updated February 15, 2024 at 1:04 p.m. EST|Published February 15, 2024 at 1:18 a.m. EST

A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket launched a robotic spacecraft to the moon early Thursday, setting up a landing on Feb. 22, which — if successful — would be the first soft landing on the moon for the United States since the last of the Apollo missions and the first commercial vehicle to touch down on the lunar surface.

The Falcon 9 rocket lifted off at 1:05 a.m. Eastern time from launchpad 39A at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center, the same pad from which a Saturn V rocket hoisted the crew of Apollo 17 on its trip to the moon in 1972. The Falcon 9 carried a spacecraft developed by Intuitive Machines, a company based in Houston. No people were on board.

The mission is being carried out under a contract with NASA, which is paying Intuitive Machines $118 million to fly several of its payloads to the lunar surface. NASA sees the mission as part of its Artemis campaign to return astronauts there.

Hours after the launch, the company said the spacecraft had established “a stable attitude, solar charging, and radio communications contact with the company’s mission operations center in Houston.”

“We are keenly aware of the immense challenges that lie ahead,” Intuitive Machines CEO Steve Altemus said in a statement. “However, it is precisely in facing these challenges head-on that we recognize the magnitude of the opportunity before us: to softly return the United States to the surface of the Moon for the first time in 52 years.”

The Nova-C lander, called Odysseus, has instruments “to demonstrate technologies that will enhance the efficiency, precision and safety of future spacecraft landing as well as investigate the surface of the of the south polar region of the moon,” Debra Needham, a NASA program scientist, said in a briefing before the launch.

But NASA is largely just a paying customer in an endeavor being driven by the private sector — a commercial spacecraft being launched by a commercial rocket — a paradigm the space agency is increasingly relying on during its exploration campaigns in Earth orbit, as well as beyond.

“Six years ago, U.S. industry said they were ready for NASA to purchase robotic lunar landings as a service instead of us doing it ourselves,” said Joel Kearns, deputy associate administrator for exploration in NASA’s science mission directorate. These first missions “are a test of that.”

The Intuitive Machines landing attempt follows one by another private venture, Astrobotic, which launched its spacecraft to the moon last month also under contract from NASA. Its landing attempt, however, was thwarted by a problem with the spacecraft’s propulsion system that prevented it from reaching the moon.

NASA has acknowledged that some of the missions might fail. But its leaders say they expect to gain knowledge even from the failures and have lined up companies to make robotic landing attempts, or in the words of its leaders, “take shots on goal.” NASA officials have said they hope that over the next several years there could be at least two robotic missions a year to the moon as part of what it calls its Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program.

The Intuitive Machines Nova-C lunar lander is seen on display in October 2023 in Houston. (Jonathan Newton/The Washington Post)
“Going into this … we didn’t believe that success was assured, as these U.S. companies, for the first time, go to the moon — something that nobody’s done robotically in the U.S. since 1968, and the last Apollo mission was 1972,” Kearns said. “What I can tell you is that we’re learning from every attempt.”

Intuitive Machines’ mission is also a risky one. And the launch of its Odysseus spacecraft, which is 14-feet tall and has six landing legs, is just the first step in a long, perilous journey to the lunar surface. If successful, it will land in the region of the lunar south pole, which NASA wants to explore with astronauts because of the possible presence of water in the form of ice in the permanently shadowed craters there. Water is important to any prolonged mission to the moon because it’s vital to sustain human life, and because its component parts, hydrogen and oxygen, can be used as rocket fuel to allow for further exploration of the solar system.

Unlike Apollo, NASA is looking to build an enduring presence on and around the moon’s south pole, a region that China is also interested in exploring.

“We’re not trying to redo Apollo,” Kearns said. “What we’re doing today is we’re going after scientific and technology studies that weren’t even envisioned back at the time of Apollo to answer major scientific questions. … And we’re going to a region of the moon, particularly this mission with and Artemis that people and robots have never been to — to really look for new things, like if there really is usable volatiles like water ice on the south pole of the moon.”

Odysseus also is carrying a NASA instrument designed to capture images of the dust plume kicked up by the spacecraft’s engines. Since the space agency anticipates eventually landing multiple spacecraft close to one another, it wants to better understand what effects landings have on the moon’s surface and environment.

“It’s going to cause the dust to really churn up and create a big plume of dust,” said Susan Lederer, NASA’s project scientist for the Intuitive Machines mission. “And so it’s going to be taking a set of cameras and looking down as that plume of dust comes up.”

That, she said, will help “future landers to be developed to better protect against the dust that’s being churned up.”

The spacecraft is also carrying a camera system designed by students and faculty from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University that will be ejected from the spacecraft at about 100 feet above the moon’s surface to take images of the vehicle during the landing sequence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/15/intuitive-machines-lunar-lander-launch-spacex/?

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Date: 16/02/2024 11:46:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2125951
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Well done Elon Musk.

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Date: 16/02/2024 11:53:57
From: dv
ID: 2125955
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Peak Warming Man said:


Well done Elon Musk.

He should be very proud

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Date: 16/02/2024 11:58:44
From: PermeateFree
ID: 2125960
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Peak Warming Man said:


Well done Elon Musk.

Yes it seems that the successful launch is becoming far more reliable than the recent, hold your breath, finger crossed, hooray it didn’t explode reaction.

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Date: 16/02/2024 12:28:17
From: Ian
ID: 2125978
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Neat

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Date: 16/02/2024 13:03:38
From: Kingy
ID: 2125996
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Ian said:


Neat

Looks unstable. I hope it doesn’t land and fall over like the last one.

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Date: 23/02/2024 10:40:58
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2128356
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Live feed from Mission Control –

https://plus.nasa.gov/scheduled-video/intuitive-machines-1-lunar-landing/

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Date: 23/02/2024 10:48:52
From: Michael V
ID: 2128358
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

AussieDJ said:


Live feed from Mission Control –

https://plus.nasa.gov/scheduled-video/intuitive-machines-1-lunar-landing/

Also:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-23/live-updates-moon-landing-intuitive-machines-odysseus-lander/103494722

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Date: 23/02/2024 12:32:53
From: Michael V
ID: 2128428
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Michael V said:


AussieDJ said:

Live feed from Mission Control –

https://plus.nasa.gov/scheduled-video/intuitive-machines-1-lunar-landing/

Also:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-23/live-updates-moon-landing-intuitive-machines-odysseus-lander/103494722

From there a few minutes ago:

This just in from Intuitive Machines:

“After troubleshooting communications, flight controllers have confirmed Odysseus is upright and starting to send data. Right now, we are working to downlink the first images from the lunar surface.”

Promising news.

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Date: 23/02/2024 12:35:03
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2128432
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

AussieDJ said:

Live feed from Mission Control –

https://plus.nasa.gov/scheduled-video/intuitive-machines-1-lunar-landing/

Also:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-23/live-updates-moon-landing-intuitive-machines-odysseus-lander/103494722

From there a few minutes ago:

This just in from Intuitive Machines:

“After troubleshooting communications, flight controllers have confirmed Odysseus is upright and starting to send data. Right now, we are working to downlink the first images from the lunar surface.”

Promising news.

Excellent, I’d forgotten about it.

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Date: 23/02/2024 12:36:47
From: Arts
ID: 2128436
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

AussieDJ said:

Live feed from Mission Control –

https://plus.nasa.gov/scheduled-video/intuitive-machines-1-lunar-landing/

Also:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-23/live-updates-moon-landing-intuitive-machines-odysseus-lander/103494722

From there a few minutes ago:

This just in from Intuitive Machines:

“After troubleshooting communications, flight controllers have confirmed Odysseus is upright and starting to send data. Right now, we are working to downlink the first images from the lunar surface.”

Promising news.

troubleshooting communications is code for “we had to finally say yes to ‘update now’.”

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Date: 23/02/2024 13:09:29
From: dv
ID: 2128454
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Big win for Musk. His aerospace ventures have been very fruitful.

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Date: 23/02/2024 13:11:54
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2128459
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

dv said:


Big win for Musk. His aerospace ventures have been very fruitful.

I think he only lauched it.

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Date: 23/02/2024 13:13:48
From: Michael V
ID: 2128463
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Big win for Musk. His aerospace ventures have been very fruitful.

I think he only launched it.

Space X built the rocket and the lander.

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Date: 23/02/2024 13:16:41
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2128469
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Big win for Musk. His aerospace ventures have been very fruitful.

I think he only launched it.

Space X built the rocket and the lander.

Ah ok.

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Date: 23/02/2024 23:00:26
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2128667
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

No pictures yet, as soon as the Mars rovers the had pictures almost immediately.
It’s been 2 days.

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Date: 24/02/2024 17:52:47
From: Kingy
ID: 2128896
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Kingy said:


Ian said:

Neat

Looks unstable. I hope it doesn’t land and fall over like the last one.

https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/other/one-giant-tumble-for-mankind-nasa-confirms-118-million-odysseus-lunar-aircraft-has-tipped-over-onto-its-side-after-failed-landing-on-the-moon/ar-BB1iMW3r

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Date: 24/02/2024 17:54:51
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2128899
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Kingy said:


Kingy said:

Ian said:

Neat

Looks unstable. I hope it doesn’t land and fall over like the last one.

https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/other/one-giant-tumble-for-mankind-nasa-confirms-118-million-odysseus-lunar-aircraft-has-tipped-over-onto-its-side-after-failed-landing-on-the-moon/ar-BB1iMW3r

Hehe.
I was suspicious because they got no pictures back.

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Date: 24/02/2024 18:06:05
From: Ian
ID: 2128911
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Kingy said:


Kingy said:

Ian said:

Neat

Looks unstable. I hope it doesn’t land and fall over like the last one.

https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/other/one-giant-tumble-for-mankind-nasa-confirms-118-million-odysseus-lunar-aircraft-has-tipped-over-onto-its-side-after-failed-landing-on-the-moon/ar-BB1iMW3r

Looks hastily cobbled together and top heavy…

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Date: 24/02/2024 18:07:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2128912
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Ian said:


Kingy said:

Kingy said:

Looks unstable. I hope it doesn’t land and fall over like the last one.

https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/other/one-giant-tumble-for-mankind-nasa-confirms-118-million-odysseus-lunar-aircraft-has-tipped-over-onto-its-side-after-failed-landing-on-the-moon/ar-BB1iMW3r

Looks hastily cobbled together and top heavy…

Yes, you wouldn’t want to lean against.

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Date: 24/02/2024 18:07:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2128914
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Bubblecar said:


Ian said:

Kingy said:

https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/other/one-giant-tumble-for-mankind-nasa-confirms-118-million-odysseus-lunar-aircraft-has-tipped-over-onto-its-side-after-failed-landing-on-the-moon/ar-BB1iMW3r

Looks hastily cobbled together and top heavy…

Yes, you wouldn’t want to lean against.

…it.

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Date: 24/02/2024 18:09:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 2128918
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Peak Warming Man said:


Kingy said:

Kingy said:

Looks unstable. I hope it doesn’t land and fall over like the last one.

https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/other/one-giant-tumble-for-mankind-nasa-confirms-118-million-odysseus-lunar-aircraft-has-tipped-over-onto-its-side-after-failed-landing-on-the-moon/ar-BB1iMW3r

Hehe.
I was suspicious because they got no pictures back.

So who is going up there to stand these things back up?

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Date: 24/02/2024 18:12:55
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2128922
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

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Date: 24/02/2024 18:13:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2128924
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Spiny Norman said:


Sorry, couldn’t resist.


Heh.

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Date: 24/02/2024 18:14:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 2128925
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Spiny Norman said:


Sorry, couldn’t resist.


Wonder how many millions that cost?

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Date: 24/02/2024 18:22:24
From: Kingy
ID: 2128932
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Spiny Norman said:


Sorry, couldn’t resist.


lolz

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Date: 24/02/2024 18:55:22
From: dv
ID: 2128947
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

The Japanese land upside down, the Americans land sideways what’s going on up there?

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Date: 24/02/2024 19:05:36
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2128950
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

dv said:


The Japanese land upside down, the Americans land sideways what’s going on up there?

moon cats.

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Date: 24/02/2024 19:09:59
From: Kingy
ID: 2128951
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

dv said:


The Japanese land upside down, the Americans land sideways what’s going on up there?

Tetris

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Date: 24/02/2024 22:01:55
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2129001
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

The Japanese land upside down, the Americans land sideways what’s going on up there?

moon cats.

:)

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Date: 16/07/2024 13:20:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2175398
Subject: re: Nasa returns to the Moon

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s the sort of day to find a place in the sun out of the wind and curl up with dimensions or a good book.

Good news for today.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-16/cave-discovered-on-the-moon/104102032

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