Date: 17/02/2024 16:35:35
From: Thomo
ID: 2126495
Subject: Engineering Q
I’m looking at doing some product improvement on my Male/Female balustrading leg .
Whilst the loadings required in AS1170 have not changed , the recent AS 1288 has (finally) specified testing procedure .
Plus there is talk of increasing the loadings and more jobs are after Testing Certs .
I designed the systen over 20 years ago and it has worked well but I want to strengthen it .
Generally it is a 45×30mm two part leg . All loads are imposed on the 30mm face .
Under load the leg is not subject to twisting as it is braced by the rails and undercap .
My Q is basically .
Is there any difference in strength between a 45×30 leg with the 45mm walls one of 5mm and one of 3mm , or a 4/4 or 4.5/4.5 combo .
The asymetrical one has advantages due to screw flutes , spigots and assembly .
Having a thick leg is not a cost consideration as I own the dies and the cost is proportional to the total kg/m of leg .
I may go thicker but certain alloys dont like going too thick (6061 T6 ) to guarentee T6
Thanks in advance .
Brett
Date: 17/02/2024 23:49:58
From: Kingy
ID: 2126598
Subject: re: Engineering Q
Thomo said:
I’m looking at doing some product improvement on my Male/Female balustrading leg .
Whilst the loadings required in AS1170 have not changed , the recent AS 1288 has (finally) specified testing procedure .
Plus there is talk of increasing the loadings and more jobs are after Testing Certs .
I designed the systen over 20 years ago and it has worked well but I want to strengthen it .
Generally it is a 45×30mm two part leg . All loads are imposed on the 30mm face .
Under load the leg is not subject to twisting as it is braced by the rails and undercap .
My Q is basically .
Is there any difference in strength between a 45×30 leg with the 45mm walls one of 5mm and one of 3mm , or a 4/4 or 4.5/4.5 combo .
The asymetrical one has advantages due to screw flutes , spigots and assembly .
Having a thick leg is not a cost consideration as I own the dies and the cost is proportional to the total kg/m of leg .
I may go thicker but certain alloys dont like going too thick (6061 T6 ) to guarentee T6
Thanks in advance .
Brett
Hi Brett, as you are the expert in this situation,
if I were to ask you the same question, what would your reply be?
Date: 18/02/2024 07:18:44
From: Thomo
ID: 2126637
Subject: re: Engineering Q
“if I were to ask you the same question, what would your reply be?”
Simply that I do not know if a 5/3 is stronger than a 4/4
Brett
Date: 18/02/2024 08:38:58
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2126640
Subject: re: Engineering Q
Thomo said:
“if I were to ask you the same question, what would your reply be?”
Simply that I do not know if a 5/3 is stronger than a 4/4
Brett
Thomo!
We have you been?!
For some reason, i was wondering about you a week or two back.
Date: 18/02/2024 09:49:22
From: Michael V
ID: 2126669
Subject: re: Engineering Q
Date: 18/02/2024 12:42:31
From: Thomo
ID: 2126784
Subject: re: Engineering Q
Hey Captain , Michael
Brett
Date: 18/02/2024 12:49:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 2126786
Subject: re: Engineering Q
Thomo said:
Hey Captain , Michael
Brett
Hay’s ninety three miiles that way, points.
Date: 18/02/2024 12:58:54
From: Kingy
ID: 2126791
Subject: re: Engineering Q
This might help
https://www.engineersedge.com/materials/aisc_structural_shapes/aisc_structural_shapes_viewer.htm
Date: 18/02/2024 13:42:41
From: Michael V
ID: 2126810
Subject: re: Engineering Q
Thomo said:
Hey Captain , Michael
Brett
:)
Date: 20/02/2024 04:07:43
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2127349
Subject: re: Engineering Q
> “Whilst the loadings required in AS1170 have not changed …”
Memories.
AS1170 was my bread and butter when I first joined CSIRO and for quite a few years after.
Date: 20/02/2024 10:35:23
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2127372
Subject: re: Engineering Q
mollwollfumble said:
> “Whilst the loadings required in AS1170 have not changed …”
Memories.
AS1170 was my bread and butter when I first joined CSIRO and for quite a few years after.
Part 4 or all of it?
I’m on the Standards 1170.4 committee now.
Date: 20/02/2024 10:40:51
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2127373
Subject: re: Engineering Q
The Rev Dodgson said:
mollwollfumble said:
> “Whilst the loadings required in AS1170 have not changed …”
Memories.
AS1170 was my bread and butter when I first joined CSIRO and for quite a few years after.
Part 4 or all of it?
I’m on the Standards 1170.4 committee now.
Phoaw.
Date: 20/02/2024 11:08:43
From: Michael V
ID: 2127375
Subject: re: Engineering Q
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
mollwollfumble said:
> “Whilst the loadings required in AS1170 have not changed …”
Memories.
AS1170 was my bread and butter when I first joined CSIRO and for quite a few years after.
Part 4 or all of it?
I’m on the Standards 1170.4 committee now.
Phoaw.
I was for a few years, the NSW Divisional Convener of the Australian Stratigraphy Commission.