Tanya Plibersek must decide whether to allow the construction of an eco-resort in the middle of Walls of Jerusalem National Park.

Humans are wreaking havoc on our most cherished places. Largely, this is the result of overpopulation and industrial excess. The planet is now in uncharted territory, having entered what some have dubbed the Anthropocene, in which we ourselves are the greatest determinant of its health and sickness. Tourism is a significant and growing contributor to the chaos.

Human-built environments are crumbling beneath a landslide of Instagrammers, Venice prominent among them. Sinking as it is, the crush of an expected 38 million tourists next year cannot help. Elsewhere, the fragile sandstone facades of Petra are being weathered by clammy hands seeking a connection with Nabataean prehistory. Even the Inca citadel of Machu Picchu, once protected by the four days of arduous walking needed to reach it, is now overrun by as many as 4,000 people a day.

Once-immaculate corners of the planet — from Mount Everest, whose flanks are now strewn with refuse, to the Galapagos Islands, which itself has become one of South America’s fastest-growing economies — are endangered and authorities are unsure what, if anything, should be done about it.

More:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-05/are-there-places-on-earth-we-should-be-barred-from-visiting-/103539648

A few years ago they’d asked an Aborigine how he felt about tourists climbing Uluru
and was struck by his reply;
“the same as they’d feel about us swarming like ants all over Notre Dam Cathedral.”

> are there places on Earth we should be barred from visiting?

There are. But it’s nothing to do with tourism.

Catchment areas for water supply – people are banned from visiting because of potential poisoning.
Colonies of animals that hate human interference.

Tourism is attracted to disasters. The Leaning tower of Pisa for instance.
So avoid stories of disaster and the tourists will go away of their own accord.

PermeateFree said:

Tanya Plibersek must decide whether to allow the construction of an eco-resort in the middle of Walls of Jerusalem National Park.

Humans are wreaking havoc on our most cherished places. Largely, this is the result of overpopulation and industrial excess. The planet is now in uncharted territory, having entered what some have dubbed the Anthropocene, in which we ourselves are the greatest determinant of its health and sickness. Tourism is a significant and growing contributor to the chaos.

Human-built environments are crumbling beneath a landslide of Instagrammers, Venice prominent among them. Sinking as it is, the crush of an expected 38 million tourists next year cannot help. Elsewhere, the fragile sandstone facades of Petra are being weathered by clammy hands seeking a connection with Nabataean prehistory. Even the Inca citadel of Machu Picchu, once protected by the four days of arduous walking needed to reach it, is now overrun by as many as 4,000 people a day.

Once-immaculate corners of the planet — from Mount Everest, whose flanks are now strewn with refuse, to the Galapagos Islands, which itself has become one of South America’s fastest-growing economies — are endangered and authorities are unsure what, if anything, should be done about it.

More:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-05/are-there-places-on-earth-we-should-be-barred-from-visiting-/103539648

Many of us may agree but with the weight of commercial enterprise relying upon tourism I’m afraid that the thought of preservation may be all that happens.

mollwollfumble said:

> are there places on Earth we should be barred from visiting?

There are. But it’s nothing to do with tourism.

Catchment areas for water supply – people are banned from visiting because of potential poisoning.
Colonies of animals that hate human interference.

Tourism is attracted to disasters. The Leaning tower of Pisa for instance.
So avoid stories of disaster and the tourists will go away of their own accord.

Catchments are indeed declared sacrosanct in regard to people using and abusing them but laws and signs, even fences don’t keep the lawbreakers out.

Tourists are the death knell of wilderness areas.

I hate the idea of this eco resort in the walls of jerusalem. you night be able to convince me into putting a few more shacks on the track but not a new resort with helicopters.

sarahs mum said:

I hate the idea of this eco resort in the walls of jerusalem. you night be able to convince me into putting a few more shacks on the track but not a new resort with helicopters.

Aye, it’s the thin edge of the wedge.

It’s quite counter productive isn’t it

Hmm unspoilt pristine wilderness, lets turn it into a tourist destination

possibly a lot of tourism might be considered territorial expansion, even invasion, could be worth the thought exercise anyway, see what comes of it

Cymek said:

It’s quite counter productive isn’t it

Hmm unspoilt pristine wilderness, lets turn it into a tourist destination

Anything not already developed should be protected and left alone
Tourism generates money but the environmental cost is probably too high and what do people living there think of it all
This is wilderness areas, ancient sites, etc not big cities
Are tourists respectful as well, possibly not if they are rich compared to the native population who have to suck up to get money to survive.

transition said:

possibly a lot of tourism might be considered territorial expansion, even invasion, could be worth the thought exercise anyway, see what comes of it

That as well, do the locals have much of a say or are they moved along if they disagree

Cymek said:

transition said:

possibly a lot of tourism might be considered territorial expansion, even invasion, could be worth the thought exercise anyway, see what comes of it

That as well, do the locals have much of a say or are they moved along if they disagree

you could ask the inhabitants of indonesia and bali, find out what the guides really think, if they dare

Cymek said:

It’s quite counter productive isn’t it

Hmm unspoilt pristine wilderness, lets turn it into a tourist destination

Lake Poona nearby here is getting an eco-tourism development. I don’t like it one little bit. It was to be right by the lake, a pristine, unspoilt perched lake in the sand dunes with a 2.4 km walking track in over the high dunes, through rainforest etc. The development is to be on the other side of the lake to the walking track and will have a truck access track and a back-up diesel generator. They’ve moved it back up the hill a bit, but trucks and diesel generators? No thanks.

transition said:

Cymek said:

transition said:

possibly a lot of tourism might be considered territorial expansion, even invasion, could be worth the thought exercise anyway, see what comes of it

That as well, do the locals have much of a say or are they moved along if they disagree

you could ask the inhabitants of indonesia and bali, find out what the guides really think, if they dare

We do or did have reputations as cashed up bogans acting rude
I mean c’mon its their home they are poor as well so show respect

Cymek said:

It’s quite counter productive isn’t it

Hmm unspoilt pristine wilderness, lets turn it into a tourist destination

it is already a tourist destination. lots walk the track each year. and lots can’t get a booking. But those people walking the track want wombats and goshawks…not helicopters.

sarahs mum said:

Cymek said:

It’s quite counter productive isn’t it

Hmm unspoilt pristine wilderness, lets turn it into a tourist destination

it is already a tourist destination. lots walk the track each year. and lots can’t get a booking. But those people walking the track want wombats and goshawks…not helicopters.

Any places where endangered species go to perpetuate their species, for examples , places where turtles lay egg, penguins, rare bird species , there should also be more exclusion zones for breeding grounds for marine life.

monkey skipper said:

sarahs mum said:

Cymek said:

It’s quite counter productive isn’t it

Hmm unspoilt pristine wilderness, lets turn it into a tourist destination

it is already a tourist destination. lots walk the track each year. and lots can’t get a booking. But those people walking the track want wombats and goshawks…not helicopters.

Any places where endangered species go to perpetuate their species, for examples , places where turtles lay egg, penguins, rare bird species , there should also be more exclusion zones for breeding grounds for marine life.

That’s everywhere and the farmers have traditionally slashed and burned, ploughed and sprayed..

Great

Where am i going to dump my old tyres now ?

roughbarked said:

monkey skipper said:

sarahs mum said:

it is already a tourist destination. lots walk the track each year. and lots can’t get a booking. But those people walking the track want wombats and goshawks…not helicopters.

Any places where endangered species go to perpetuate their species, for examples , places where turtles lay egg, penguins, rare bird species , there should also be more exclusion zones for breeding grounds for marine life.

That’s everywhere and the farmers have traditionally slashed and burned, ploughed and sprayed..

…and THEY still pretend not to know What’s Killing The Bees

>> Good Luck Farming Without Bees <<

ooopsey * try again:

Neonicotinoids 101: The Effects on Humans and Bees

Integrated Pest Management

good to know stuff even for the casual home gardener