With the 3rd integrated flight test, Spacex Starship is the heaviest flying object ever built, at around 5000 tonnes, compared to around 3000 tonnes for Saturn V.

Get the impression that as long as Elon is involved with these projects, they’ll keep crashing and exploding.

Bubblecar said:

Get the impression that as long as Elon is involved with these projects, they’ll keep crashing and exploding.

Spacex has an enviable record of success.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Get the impression that as long as Elon is involved with these projects, they’ll keep crashing and exploding.

Spacex has an enviable record of success.

When they’re not crashing and exploding.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Get the impression that as long as Elon is involved with these projects, they’ll keep crashing and exploding.

Spacex has an enviable record of success.

When they’re not crashing and exploding.

There’s enough successful ones to have a satellite network that is so good it can sway the outcomes of wars.

It is in hindsight, a rather poor decision to have a private individual in charge of it.

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Spacex has an enviable record of success.

When they’re not crashing and exploding.

There’s enough successful ones to have a satellite network that is so good it can sway the outcomes of wars.

It is in hindsight, a rather poor decision to have a private individual in charge of it.

Especially a narcissistic nutcase.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

When they’re not crashing and exploding.

There’s enough successful ones to have a satellite network that is so good it can sway the outcomes of wars.

It is in hindsight, a rather poor decision to have a private individual in charge of it.

Especially a narcissistic nutcase.

Yeah. They say power corrupts. But I wonder if extreme wealth corrupts too.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Get the impression that as long as Elon is involved with these projects, they’ll keep crashing and exploding.

Spacex has an enviable record of success.

When they’re not crashing and exploding.

Reuseable rocket technology requires experimentation, determination and lots of money. Luckily there is someone like Elon with the means to do it.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

When they’re not crashing and exploding.

There’s enough successful ones to have a satellite network that is so good it can sway the outcomes of wars.

It is in hindsight, a rather poor decision to have a private individual in charge of it.

Especially a narcissistic nutcase.

Apparently many artists also fit that description.

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

There’s enough successful ones to have a satellite network that is so good it can sway the outcomes of wars.

It is in hindsight, a rather poor decision to have a private individual in charge of it.

Especially a narcissistic nutcase.

Apparently many artists also fit that description.

not necessarily narcissistic.

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

Especially a narcissistic nutcase.

Apparently many artists also fit that description.

not necessarily narcissistic.

Nothing like a bit of self-confidence and a huge slice can work wonders with imagination.

Musk said that the next Tesla Roadster model would be a collaboration with his SpaceX business and “would have some rocket technology in it”.

He added: “I think the only way to do something that’s cooler than the Cybertruck is to combine SpaceX and Tesla technology to create something that’s not even really a car.”

—

Fucken beauty. Get that Cybertruck up to about 1000 klicks and voom.. next stop Mars!

https://www.youtube.com/live/cfkadv8NHlw?si=XVpKO28SJHkTJ474

Thunderfoot

This guy has been on to elon musk, tesla and space X for years

He says its a techno ponzi scheme, other products from musk are vapourware : tesla truck/ solar cities/ tesla cyber truck/ hyperloop

The theory is as musk’s value is based on tesla stocks value, every time the stock value starts crashing he introduces a new “product”. The product is not anything manufactured but musk himself – musk is the product. Musk buys twitter and crashes its worth.

I love Elon.

The massive worldwide opposition I’ve seen to him everywhere, sems to have come about only because of him renaming Twitter.

mollwollfumble said:

I love Elon.

The massive worldwide opposition I’ve seen to him everywhere, sems to have come about only because of him renaming Twitter.

No.

mollwollfumble said:

I love Elon.

The massive worldwide opposition I’ve seen to him everywhere, sems to have come about only because of him renaming Twitter.

:))

Good one.

I hope you don’t get too muck flak from people who think you were serious.

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

I love Elon.

The massive worldwide opposition I’ve seen to him everywhere, sems to have come about only because of him renaming Twitter.

:))

Good one.

I hope you don’t get too muck flak from people who think you were serious.

I wish but alas there is no end to Moll’s depravity.

mollwollfumble said:

I love Elon.

The massive worldwide opposition I’ve seen to him everywhere, sems to have come about only because of him renaming Twitter.

For me, it is mainly about

• his antivax ideas, including forcing his staff to have personal contact at the peak of the plague and many public statements underpaying the severity of the problem

• His decision to allow previously banned child-sex traffickers and far right insurrectionists back on to Xitter

• His union-busting

• his general courting of the far right. He could platform anyone he wanted to but instead he broadcasts a meeting of minds between Andrew Tate, Alex Jones and Ramaswamy.

These things are antithetical to my values.

——

The other stuff, I don’t hate him for, but I do have a laugh. The cybertruck is objectively funny. The hyperloop was never going to practical on the large scale. His decision to purchase and rename Twitter was daft. I ain’t mad about these things but they do make me smh. He tends to overpromise: The Vegas Loop wss meant to be high speed pods that would revolutionise travel but it is just slow moving taxis. He’s also a bit thin skinned: there was no need for him to called the Thai caver rescuer a pedo guy.
He hates public transport, repeatedly says how the idea sucksz which is a real shame because there’s a renewed market for battery powered buses and trains that would be right up Tesla’s alley. He stated that there was no reason to catch a bus rather than his fleet of autonomous service vehicles. The thing is that autonomous vehicles might not ever really be market ready and also they would still contribute to congestion and other car-realted problems. His reluctance to enter that marketspace let BYD and Proterra dominate. There was a flurry of youtube videos and not-quite-journalistic articles about Tesla “previewing” a bus in their vision report last year but having read it thoroughly that’s not the case. The report mentions the role of electric buses but does not indicate that Telsa is going to make one. (It’s a great report, generally, with good sections on maritime and aeroplane conversion to zero emissions).

None of this is to deny his great achievements. He brought his venture capital and promotional skills to Tesla, who became a leader in battery powered cars and power storage, and the achievements of the Falcoln range have truly been unique.

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

I love Elon.

The massive worldwide opposition I’ve seen to him everywhere, sems to have come about only because of him renaming Twitter.

For me, it is mainly about

• his antivax ideas, including forcing his staff to have personal contact at the peak of the plague and many public statements underpaying the severity of the problem

• His decision to allow previously banned child-sex traffickers and far right insurrectionists back on to Xitter

• His union-busting

• his general courting of the far right. He could platform anyone he wanted to but instead he broadcasts a meeting of minds between Andrew Tate, Alex Jones and Ramaswamy.

These things are antithetical to my values.

——

The other stuff, I don’t hate him for, but I do have a laugh. The cybertruck is objectively funny. The hyperloop was never going to practical on the large scale. His decision to purchase and rename Twitter was daft. I ain’t mad about these things but they do make me smh. He tends to overpromise: The Vegas Loop wss meant to be high speed pods that would revolutionise travel but it is just slow moving taxis. He’s also a bit thin skinned: there was no need for him to called the Thai caver rescuer a pedo guy.
He hates public transport, repeatedly says how the idea sucksz which is a real shame because there’s a renewed market for battery powered buses and trains that would be right up Tesla’s alley. He stated that there was no reason to catch a bus rather than his fleet of autonomous service vehicles. The thing is that autonomous vehicles might not ever really be market ready and also they would still contribute to congestion and other car-realted problems. His reluctance to enter that marketspace let BYD and Proterra dominate. There was a flurry of youtube videos and not-quite-journalistic articles about Tesla “previewing” a bus in their vision report last year but having read it thoroughly that’s not the case. The report mentions the role of electric buses but does not indicate that Telsa is going to make one. (It’s a great report, generally, with good sections on maritime and aeroplane conversion to zero emissions).

None of this is to deny his great achievements. He brought his venture capital and promotional skills to Tesla, who became a leader in battery powered cars and power storage, and the achievements of the Falcoln range have truly been unique.

Well he made his own venture capital in the first place and risked it all in projects like SpaceX, he has also invested heavily in things like AI, robots, batteries, satellites, etc. He is not just an Invester, but an innovator that stimulates different and better ways of doing things. He is not an Alan Bond, or a Rubert Murdoch, he is not trying to deceive people, take their money or take over the world. He is just a quirky individual that is extremely bright with an often-unique way of looking at the world, yet people with vastly different views and without any achievements themselves endeavor to demonise and belittle him.

So he is not a perfect individual and has many flaws, but he is still a very talented person that has done far more good in the world than most other people with a similar level of notoriety. I can only think he is too successful for some who seek everything to discredit him and promote situations in the worse possible manner.

PermeateFree said:

So he is not a perfect individual and has many flaws, but he is still a very talented person that has done far more good in the world than most other people with a similar level of notoriety. I can only think he is too successful for some who seek everything to discredit him and promote situations in the worse possible manner.

For someone who admits that Elon is not perfect, you seem to take if awfully personally whenever discussion of his faults comes up.

party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

So he is not a perfect individual and has many flaws, but he is still a very talented person that has done far more good in the world than most other people with a similar level of notoriety. I can only think he is too successful for some who seek everything to discredit him and promote situations in the worse possible manner.

For someone who admits that Elon is not perfect, you seem to take if awfully personally whenever discussion of his faults comes up.

I just admire what the man has done and think he is exceptional. I dislike the demonising and character assassination of worth that is a feature of certain people on this forum. Quite obviously nobody is going to stand up and counter the criticiser thus leaving a permanent scar of distrust and dislike on that person, so if you don’t mind, I will try to counter unfair and destructive criticism.

PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

So he is not a perfect individual and has many flaws, but he is still a very talented person that has done far more good in the world than most other people with a similar level of notoriety. I can only think he is too successful for some who seek everything to discredit him and promote situations in the worse possible manner.

For someone who admits that Elon is not perfect, you seem to take if awfully personally whenever discussion of his faults comes up.

I just admire what the man has done and think he is exceptional. I dislike the demonising and character assassination of worth that is a feature of certain people on this forum. Quite obviously nobody is going to stand up and counter the criticiser thus leaving a permanent scar of distrust and dislike on that person, so if you don’t mind, I will try to counter unfair and destructive criticism.

I think he is a destructive and poisonous individual. People like you who swallow the myth about his genius are just being played for fools.

Bring back Twitter, pre Elon.

party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

For someone who admits that Elon is not perfect, you seem to take if awfully personally whenever discussion of his faults comes up.

I just admire what the man has done and think he is exceptional. I dislike the demonising and character assassination of worth that is a feature of certain people on this forum. Quite obviously nobody is going to stand up and counter the criticiser thus leaving a permanent scar of distrust and dislike on that person, so if you don’t mind, I will try to counter unfair and destructive criticism.

I think he is a destructive and poisonous individual. People like you who swallow the myth about his genius are just being played for fools.

I just follow the facts, not made up opinions.

PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

I just admire what the man has done and think he is exceptional. I dislike the demonising and character assassination of worth that is a feature of certain people on this forum. Quite obviously nobody is going to stand up and counter the criticiser thus leaving a permanent scar of distrust and dislike on that person, so if you don’t mind, I will try to counter unfair and destructive criticism.

I think he is a destructive and poisonous individual. People like you who swallow the myth about his genius are just being played for fools.

I just follow the facts, not made up opinions.

As long as you don’t consider him an environmentalist.

party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

For someone who admits that Elon is not perfect, you seem to take if awfully personally whenever discussion of his faults comes up.

I just admire what the man has done and think he is exceptional. I dislike the demonising and character assassination of worth that is a feature of certain people on this forum. Quite obviously nobody is going to stand up and counter the criticiser thus leaving a permanent scar of distrust and dislike on that person, so if you don’t mind, I will try to counter unfair and destructive criticism.

I think he is a destructive and poisonous individual. People like you who swallow the myth about his genius are just being played for fools.

I’m hoping he gets pushed aside eventually as there’s far too much at stake with the space program, especially.

PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

I just admire what the man has done and think he is exceptional. I dislike the demonising and character assassination of worth that is a feature of certain people on this forum. Quite obviously nobody is going to stand up and counter the criticiser thus leaving a permanent scar of distrust and dislike on that person, so if you don’t mind, I will try to counter unfair and destructive criticism.

I think he is a destructive and poisonous individual. People like you who swallow the myth about his genius are just being played for fools.

I just follow the facts, not made up opinions.

Fact, Elon is a far right arsehole.

Tau.Neutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

I think he is a destructive and poisonous individual. People like you who swallow the myth about his genius are just being played for fools.

I just follow the facts, not made up opinions.

Fact, Elon is a far right arsehole.

Mindless chatter from people in a Character Assassination Club.

Vell, Elon’s just zis guy, you know?

actually they’re compliments

Ian said:

Vell, Elon’s just zis guy, you know?

No, he is highly intelligent lateral thinker that has established many innovative businesses that are changing the world.

PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

Vell, Elon’s just zis guy, you know?

No, he is highly intelligent lateral thinker that has established many innovative businesses that are changing the world.

Without a care for the environment in the slightest.

PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

Vell, Elon’s just zis guy, you know?

No, he is highly intelligent lateral thinker that has established many innovative businesses that are changing the world.

Personally, I love the two heads and extra arm.

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

Vell, Elon’s just zis guy, you know?

No, he is highly intelligent lateral thinker that has established many innovative businesses that are changing the world.

Without a care for the environment in the slightest.

Elon Musk is helping the environment through the following ways:

Donating about $257 million to the Musk Foundation, which provides support through grants for many causes, including renewable energy research and advocacy, human space exploration research and advocacy, paediatric research, science and engineering education, and the development of safe artificial intelligence to benefit humanity.

Eliminating subsidies and implementing a tax on companies that spew greenhouse gases like C02 into the atmosphere.

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

No, he is highly intelligent lateral thinker that has established many innovative businesses that are changing the world.

Without a care for the environment in the slightest.

Elon Musk is helping the environment through the following ways:

Donating about $257 million to the Musk Foundation, which provides support through grants for many causes, including renewable energy research and advocacy, human space exploration research and advocacy, paediatric research, science and engineering education, and the development of safe artificial intelligence to benefit humanity.

Eliminating subsidies and implementing a tax on companies that spew greenhouse gases like C02 into the atmosphere.

All that means nothing if as Musk hopes Trump wins in November.

And besides if that is the limit of his charitable giving them I’m more generous than him in the donating money to worthy causes.

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Without a care for the environment in the slightest.

Elon Musk is helping the environment through the following ways:

Donating about $257 million to the Musk Foundation, which provides support through grants for many causes, including renewable energy research and advocacy, human space exploration research and advocacy, paediatric research, science and engineering education, and the development of safe artificial intelligence to benefit humanity.

Eliminating subsidies and implementing a tax on companies that spew greenhouse gases like C02 into the atmosphere.

All that means nothing if as Musk hopes Trump wins in November.

And besides if that is the limit of his charitable giving them I’m more generous than him in the donating money to worthy causes.

On multiple occasions, Elon Musk has made it clear that sustainability is one of his top priorities, especially with Tesla and its products — from the Electric car to the solar-powered roof Shingles. SocialStory brings you a few of these quotes that emphasise his eco-friendly plans of action.

“This supersedes political parties, race, creed, religion, it doesn’t matter. If we do not solve the environment, we’re all damned.” – in an interview with Recode’s Kara Swisher. “We’re really playing a crazy game here with the atmosphere and the oceans.

We’re taking vast amounts of carbon from deep underground and putting this in the atmosphere — this is crazy. We should not do this. It’s very dangerous.” – in a Joe Rogan Experience Podcast.

“The point of all this was, and remains, accelerating the advent of sustainable energy, so that we can imagine far into the future and life is still good. That’s what ‘sustainable’ means. It’s not some silly, hippy thing — it matters for everyone.”

“We have to change the way we burn fossil fuels. We just have to.” – to his cousin Lyndon Rive, suggesting to “look into solar”.

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

Elon Musk is helping the environment through the following ways:

Donating about $257 million to the Musk Foundation, which provides support through grants for many causes, including renewable energy research and advocacy, human space exploration research and advocacy, paediatric research, science and engineering education, and the development of safe artificial intelligence to benefit humanity.

Eliminating subsidies and implementing a tax on companies that spew greenhouse gases like C02 into the atmosphere.

All that means nothing if as Musk hopes Trump wins in November.

And besides if that is the limit of his charitable giving them I’m more generous than him in the donating money to worthy causes.

On multiple occasions, Elon Musk has made it clear that sustainability is one of his top priorities, especially with Tesla and its products — from the Electric car to the solar-powered roof Shingles. SocialStory brings you a few of these quotes that emphasise his eco-friendly plans of action.

“This supersedes political parties, race, creed, religion, it doesn’t matter. If we do not solve the environment, we’re all damned.” – in an interview with Recode’s Kara Swisher. “We’re really playing a crazy game here with the atmosphere and the oceans.

We’re taking vast amounts of carbon from deep underground and putting this in the atmosphere — this is crazy. We should not do this. It’s very dangerous.” – in a Joe Rogan Experience Podcast.

“The point of all this was, and remains, accelerating the advent of sustainable energy, so that we can imagine far into the future and life is still good. That’s what ‘sustainable’ means. It’s not some silly, hippy thing — it matters for everyone.”

“We have to change the way we burn fossil fuels. We just have to.” – to his cousin Lyndon Rive, suggesting to “look into solar”.

Then why does he support Trump? Has he changed his tune since he professed the above?

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

All that means nothing if as Musk hopes Trump wins in November.

And besides if that is the limit of his charitable giving them I’m more generous than him in the donating money to worthy causes.

On multiple occasions, Elon Musk has made it clear that sustainability is one of his top priorities, especially with Tesla and its products — from the Electric car to the solar-powered roof Shingles. SocialStory brings you a few of these quotes that emphasise his eco-friendly plans of action.

“This supersedes political parties, race, creed, religion, it doesn’t matter. If we do not solve the environment, we’re all damned.” – in an interview with Recode’s Kara Swisher. “We’re really playing a crazy game here with the atmosphere and the oceans.

We’re taking vast amounts of carbon from deep underground and putting this in the atmosphere — this is crazy. We should not do this. It’s very dangerous.” – in a Joe Rogan Experience Podcast.

“The point of all this was, and remains, accelerating the advent of sustainable energy, so that we can imagine far into the future and life is still good. That’s what ‘sustainable’ means. It’s not some silly, hippy thing — it matters for everyone.”

“We have to change the way we burn fossil fuels. We just have to.” – to his cousin Lyndon Rive, suggesting to “look into solar”.

Then why does he support Trump? Has he changed his tune since he professed the above?

He has not committed to supporting Trump. He does not want to take the public side of either Trump or Biden.

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

On multiple occasions, Elon Musk has made it clear that sustainability is one of his top priorities, especially with Tesla and its products — from the Electric car to the solar-powered roof Shingles. SocialStory brings you a few of these quotes that emphasise his eco-friendly plans of action.

“This supersedes political parties, race, creed, religion, it doesn’t matter. If we do not solve the environment, we’re all damned.” – in an interview with Recode’s Kara Swisher. “We’re really playing a crazy game here with the atmosphere and the oceans.

We’re taking vast amounts of carbon from deep underground and putting this in the atmosphere — this is crazy. We should not do this. It’s very dangerous.” – in a Joe Rogan Experience Podcast.

“The point of all this was, and remains, accelerating the advent of sustainable energy, so that we can imagine far into the future and life is still good. That’s what ‘sustainable’ means. It’s not some silly, hippy thing — it matters for everyone.”

“We have to change the way we burn fossil fuels. We just have to.” – to his cousin Lyndon Rive, suggesting to “look into solar”.

Then why does he support Trump? Has he changed his tune since he professed the above?

He has not committed to supporting Trump. He does not want to take the public side of either Trump or Biden.

He wants the Republicans to win in November and Trump is on their ticket. Just last week he was cheering on a ‘red wave’.

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Then why does he support Trump? Has he changed his tune since he professed the above?

He has not committed to supporting Trump. He does not want to take the public side of either Trump or Biden.

He wants the Republicans to win in November and Trump is on their ticket. Just last week he was cheering on a ‘red wave’.

The red wave could be interpreted in different ways as I responded to the actual FULL quote a few days ago. Witty you have a habit of assuming something then putting words into people’s mouths to then use those assumptions to tear them down, it is called building a strawman and it is not a good practice.

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

He has not committed to supporting Trump. He does not want to take the public side of either Trump or Biden.

He wants the Republicans to win in November and Trump is on their ticket. Just last week he was cheering on a ‘red wave’.

The red wave could be interpreted in different ways as I responded to the actual FULL quote a few days ago. Witty you have a habit of assuming something then putting words into people’s mouths to then use those assumptions to tear them down, it is called building a strawman and it is not a good practice.

rushes to get tissue to mop up the bleeding from my ears

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

He wants the Republicans to win in November and Trump is on their ticket. Just last week he was cheering on a ‘red wave’.

The red wave could be interpreted in different ways as I responded to the actual FULL quote a few days ago. Witty you have a habit of assuming something then putting words into people’s mouths to then use those assumptions to tear them down, it is called building a strawman and it is not a good practice.

rushes to get tissue to mop up the bleeding from my ears

All I have given you are the facts, all you have given me is your opinion.

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

The red wave could be interpreted in different ways as I responded to the actual FULL quote a few days ago. Witty you have a habit of assuming something then putting words into people’s mouths to then use those assumptions to tear them down, it is called building a strawman and it is not a good practice.

rushes to get tissue to mop up the bleeding from my ears

All I have given you are the facts, all you have given me is your opinion.

No seriously I have never known a political commentator as astute as you.

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

rushes to get tissue to mop up the bleeding from my ears

All I have given you are the facts, all you have given me is your opinion.

No seriously I have never known a political commentator as astute as you.

Witty this entire forum is run like a political debate with people taking sides to smash down someone they are not too keen on, or they consider foolish, or having a different philosophy of life. So welcome to the club.

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

All I have given you are the facts, all you have given me is your opinion.

No seriously I have never known a political commentator as astute as you.

Witty this entire forum is run like a political debate with people taking sides to smash down someone they are not too keen on, or they consider foolish, or having a different philosophy of life. So welcome to the club.

Yeah everyone else is the problem.

A SpaceX Falcon Heavy rocket transits the full moon during the launch of USSF-52, Dec. 28, 2023.

Maybe Elon is actually liberal minded but he knows that conservative resistance to electrical vehicles is a major threat to emissions reduction. So he has to coddle these white supremacists and ephebophile influencers to broaden the appear of his cars for the sake of environment: repenting, like Job, in dust and ashes.

dv said:

Maybe Elon is actually liberal minded but he knows that conservative resistance to electrical vehicles is a major threat to emissions reduction. So he has to coddle these white supremacists and ephebophile influencers to broaden the appear of his cars for the sake of environment: repenting, like Job, in dust and ashes.

No.

dv said:

Maybe Elon is actually liberal minded but he knows that conservative resistance to electrical vehicles is a major threat to emissions reduction. So he has to coddle these white supremacists and ephebophile influencers to broaden the appear of his cars for the sake of environment: repenting, like Job, in dust and ashes.

Your fixation of slating Elon Musk for anything surrounding him on every occasion indicates your head space is getting a little crowded. You ought to take a break before you start sharpening up your kitchen knifes.

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Maybe Elon is actually liberal minded but he knows that conservative resistance to electrical vehicles is a major threat to emissions reduction. So he has to coddle these white supremacists and ephebophile influencers to broaden the appear of his cars for the sake of environment: repenting, like Job, in dust and ashes.

Your fixation of slating Elon Musk for anything surrounding him on every occasion indicates your head space is getting a little crowded. You ought to take a break before you start sharpening up your kitchen knifes.

In the time it took you to write that post Elon had another 2 children.

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Maybe Elon is actually liberal minded but he knows that conservative resistance to electrical vehicles is a major threat to emissions reduction. So he has to coddle these white supremacists and ephebophile influencers to broaden the appear of his cars for the sake of environment: repenting, like Job, in dust and ashes.

Your fixation of slating Elon Musk for anything surrounding him on every occasion indicates your head space is getting a little crowded. You ought to take a break before you start sharpening up your kitchen knifes.

Did you break your thinkbone? This is the Love thread.

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Maybe Elon is actually liberal minded but he knows that conservative resistance to electrical vehicles is a major threat to emissions reduction. So he has to coddle these white supremacists and ephebophile influencers to broaden the appear of his cars for the sake of environment: repenting, like Job, in dust and ashes.

Your fixation of slating Elon Musk for anything surrounding him on every occasion indicates your head space is getting a little crowded. You ought to take a break before you start sharpening up your kitchen knifes.

In the time it took you to write that post Elon had another 2 children.

What will people do when Elon goes back to his home planet

Michael V said:

dv said:

Maybe Elon is actually liberal minded but he knows that conservative resistance to electrical vehicles is a major threat to emissions reduction. So he has to coddle these white supremacists and ephebophile influencers to broaden the appear of his cars for the sake of environment: repenting, like Job, in dust and ashes.

No.

Maybe I just like to think the best of people.

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Maybe Elon is actually liberal minded but he knows that conservative resistance to electrical vehicles is a major threat to emissions reduction. So he has to coddle these white supremacists and ephebophile influencers to broaden the appear of his cars for the sake of environment: repenting, like Job, in dust and ashes.

Your fixation of slating Elon Musk for anything surrounding him on every occasion indicates your head space is getting a little crowded. You ought to take a break before you start sharpening up your kitchen knifes.

In the time it took you to write that post Elon had another 2 children.

How many did you say you have?

dv said:

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Maybe Elon is actually liberal minded but he knows that conservative resistance to electrical vehicles is a major threat to emissions reduction. So he has to coddle these white supremacists and ephebophile influencers to broaden the appear of his cars for the sake of environment: repenting, like Job, in dust and ashes.

Your fixation of slating Elon Musk for anything surrounding him on every occasion indicates your head space is getting a little crowded. You ought to take a break before you start sharpening up your kitchen knifes.

Did you break your thinkbone? This is the Love thread.

LOL from you.

Michael V said:

dv said:

Maybe Elon is actually liberal minded but he knows that conservative resistance to electrical vehicles is a major threat to emissions reduction. So he has to coddle these white supremacists and ephebophile influencers to broaden the appear of his cars for the sake of environment: repenting, like Job, in dust and ashes.

No.

I think DV has jumped the shark.

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

Your fixation of slating Elon Musk for anything surrounding him on every occasion indicates your head space is getting a little crowded. You ought to take a break before you start sharpening up your kitchen knifes.

In the time it took you to write that post Elon had another 2 children.

How many did you say you have?

I have three children. Jokes alluding to any more were facetious remarks in response to Elon’s fecundity.

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Maybe Elon is actually liberal minded but he knows that conservative resistance to electrical vehicles is a major threat to emissions reduction. So he has to coddle these white supremacists and ephebophile influencers to broaden the appear of his cars for the sake of environment: repenting, like Job, in dust and ashes.

No.

I think DV has jumped the shark.

Conversely, perhaps his cars and rockets would be less criticised by liberals and leftists if he wasn’t so very dreadful.

Seems Tesla shareholders really love Elon.

tesla-shareholders-approve-elon-musk-billion-dollar-pay-package

The Rev Dodgson said:

Seems Tesla shareholders really love Elon.

tesla-shareholders-approve-elon-musk-billion-dollar-pay-package

So they want to give him almost 4x the profit the company made over the year.

Seems strange to me, but I’m not an accountant.

EM bought it in Q4 2022, and it is more than half gone. Hopefully it will be completely eradicated by 2026

dv said:

EM bought it in Q4 2022, and it is more than half gone. Hopefully it will be completely eradicated by 2026

is that a dead bird shape

dv said:

EM bought it in Q4 2022, and it is more than half gone. Hopefully it will be completely eradicated by 2026

Long may the trend continue.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

EM bought it in Q4 2022, and it is more than half gone. Hopefully it will be completely eradicated by 2026

Long may the trend continue.

seems desperate

also not sure why they used a scratchy background

Putting this in the Love Thread because Elon did nothing wrong here and the situation might make him feel weird so I am extending love to him.

His father Errol Musk married Heide Bezuidenhout in 1992 when Heide’s daughter Jana was 4 years old. Elon mentions in his biography that he was very concerned by his father’s inappropriate attentiveness to his step-sister Jana when she was a teenager.

When Jana was 16, Errol and Heide divorced, and when she was in her late twenties, Errol and Jana formed a relationship and now have two children, to whom Elon is the step-uncle and half-brother.

Errol has said “ The only thing we are on Earth for is to reproduce.” Errol, who already had seven kids, said, “If I could have another child I would. I can’t see any reason not to.”

Probably for the hate thread but I’m too lazy to keep scrolling

dv said:

:)

I’m glad to see the people’s poet at work again.

dv said:

I’m glad to see the people’s poet at work again.

Kearlon Muarskx

dv said:

I’m glad to see the people’s poet at work again.

I hadn’t heard the term “secular religion” before, but having looked it up, I’m not sure that childless cat-ladyianity counts as one anyway.

dv said:

I’m glad to see the people’s poet at work again.

It’s not quite Elegy Written In A Country Churchyard but full marks for trying.
Belay that, it’s rubbish doggerel.

dv said:

I’m glad to see the people’s poet at work again.

that lad needs to go to the gym.. everyone knows Crossfit is the new religion.

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

I’m glad to see the people’s poet at work again.

that lad needs to go to the gym.. everyone knows Crossfit is the new religion.

Not really.

Most true believers have just moved their communal get togethers to Saturday afternoons.

Some are suggesting this is proof that he is a Vogon.

For real though… man has a quarter of a trillion dollars, maybe he should hire someone to stop him going full cringe cringissimmo.

dv said:

Some are suggesting this is proof that he is a Vogon.

For real though… man has a quarter of a trillion dollars, maybe he should hire someone to stop him going full cringe cringissimmo.

the first step of the 12 step program is admitting you have a problem.

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

Some are suggesting this is proof that he is a Vogon.

For real though… man has a quarter of a trillion dollars, maybe he should hire someone to stop him going full cringe cringissimmo.

the first step of the 12 step program is admitting you have a problem.

He needs a sponsor

Also rolleyes and shakeshead and rubstemples at yet another grub tryna hide under Christianity’s skirts.

SCIENCE said:

For the benefit of those who share my ignorance:

TATE on Bluesky

I don’t even know what “micro-blogging” is.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

For the benefit of those who share my ignorance:

TATE on Bluesky

I don’t even know what “micro-blogging” is.

Today I learned that it really is only a new name for the length of your tweet.
Which were always limited in characters.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

For the benefit of those who share my ignorance:

TATE on Bluesky

I don’t even know what “micro-blogging” is.

Today I learned that it really is only a new name for the length of your tweet.
Which were always limited in characters.

OK, but what’s stopping people from doing frequent but small posts on an old-fashioned blog site, if they want to?

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

For the benefit of those who share my ignorance:

TATE on Bluesky

I don’t even know what “micro-blogging” is.

Today I learned that it really is only a new name for the length of your tweet.
Which were always limited in characters.

OK, but what’s stopping people from doing frequent but small posts on an old-fashioned blog site, if they want to?

Nothing.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

For the benefit of those who share my ignorance:

TATE on Bluesky

I don’t even know what “micro-blogging” is.

Today I learned that it really is only a new name for the length of your tweet.
Which were always limited in characters.

OK, but what’s stopping people from doing frequent but small posts on an old-fashioned blog site, if they want to?

There’s a word restriction on Twitter et al so for long posts on the same subject it’s truncated over a number of posts. On a regular blog there would be no need for multiple posts.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

For the benefit of those who share my ignorance:

TATE on Bluesky

I don’t even know what “micro-blogging” is.

Today I learned that it really is only a new name for the length of your tweet.
Which were always limited in characters.

OK, but what’s stopping people from doing frequent but small posts on an old-fashioned blog site, if they want to?

It’s a free country.

SCIENCE said:

So what is meant is: that Elon doesn’t want the truth anywhere on X.
Because otherwise he prefers the liars to post.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

So what is meant is: that Elon doesn’t want the truth anywhere on X.
Because otherwise he prefers the liars to post.

OTOH the ostensibly anti-Elon addicts will keep posting while continually threatening to leave, as he knows.

They just can’t get enough of him.

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

So what is meant is: that Elon doesn’t want the truth anywhere on X.
Because otherwise he prefers the liars to post.

OTOH the ostensibly anti-Elon addicts will keep posting while continually threatening to leave, as he knows.

They just can’t get enough of him.

X- rated

This is what happens when the finance guy ventures beyond his remit:

…

‘Visionary’ Elon Musk is back in his prime, and we should be excited

William Bennett
Money contributor
October 27, 2024 — 1.47pm

It’s fair to say Elon Musk is having a pretty good month. On Thursday, Tesla stock had its best day in more than 11 years, adding $US150 billion ($227 billion) to its market value and $26 billion to Musk’s personal wealth after reporting stronger-than-expected earnings.

The result puts Tesla shares positive for the year and caps off an action-packed month for Musk in which I was reminded of the old futurist Elon, the visionary who motivated me to study physics and whose ambitions to colonise Mars inspired a wonder for science and technology to a generation.

For me, it was last week’s Starship launch that restored my faith in humanity and Elon Musk, as we saw the first successful recapture of a Starship booster, when an object the size of a 23-storey building was plucked from midair by a pair of giant metal chopsticks.

It was a truly awe-inspiring feat that brought a tear to my eye, given my government can’t even build a basic high-speed rail line.

It is hard to understate the sheer brilliance of SpaceX, which has truly refined the phrase “rocket science”. Since 2015, SpaceX has made more than 300 successful launches of various rockets. Starship, which marked its fifth launch last week, is the largest and most powerful rocket ever to fly.

SpaceX’s reusable rocket technology is set to revolutionise the economics of space travel and make SpaceX the second most valuable start-up ever created.

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures or mock his Cybertruck design.

Analysts at Morgan Stanley forecast that SpaceX’s revenues could triple to $63 billion by 2030 – more than double what NASA receives from the United States government.

By no means can Musk take all the credit. He has the help of a 13,000-strong team at SpaceX, but his ability to marshal resources and create “efficient” businesses makes him the secret envy of many a CEO.

“Elon is singular in his understanding of engineering and construction and large systems and marshalling resources; it’s just unbelievable,” said Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, in a recent interview in which he praised Musk for setting up a supercomputer in 19 days as a “superhuman” effort.

Projections suggest SpaceX will achieve a staggering 99 per cent cost reduction from NASA’s Space Shuttle era, potentially lowering costs of reaching low Earth orbit to $100 per kg, compared to NASA’s $65,000 per kg during the Space Shuttle program.

If we judge a man by his actions and not his words, Musk is surely deserving of a Nobel Prize. He has founded not one, but four companies that have forever changed the future of our species.

The creation of Tesla brought electric vehicles to the masses and has been integral to our fight against climate change. His Neuralink implant allows quadriplegics to perform mind control, while Starlink satellites provide affordable internet access from Argentina to Zimbabwe. He is one of the co-founders of OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT.

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures, mock his Cybertruck design, or complain that he dreams bigger than he can deliver.

It can’t be described in any other terms than Musk derangement syndrome – the people who refuse to see good in what he does, purely because of his politics. If you’re not impressed with Optimus robots that can serve drinks, even if they are remote-controlled, I challenge you to build something better.

While many of his opinions are controversial (to say the least), his bark has largely been worse than his bite and his positive impacts far eclipse the right-wing, anti “woke” hyperbole spouted online.

Before this week’s $150 billion earnings boost, Drew Dickson of Albert Bridge Capital estimates that Tesla’s auto business may only be worth between $70 and $100 billion, meaning the remaining $650 billion of its market capitalisation is largely based on investor optimism about its as-yet-unproven technologies.

Except for Trump Media ($DJT), never has there been a company whose performance has been so closely tied to sentiment towards a single individual as Tesla is to Musk. Indeed, Tesla’s title as the most valuable “car” company reflects the market’s attempt to try to value Musk’s ambitions from what is possible. It appears sentiment is turning.

”We are all impostors who must deploy a fiction that captures the imagination and attracts capital to pull the future forward and turn rhyme into reason,” writes entrepreneur Scott Galloway in a recent blog post. “No business I have started, at the moment of inception, made any sense, until it did. Or didn’t. The only way to predict the future is to make it”.

Musk’s real talent is turning blue-sky ideas into commercial realities, and to obsess over his political views and personal flaws is to miss the point. Like most visionaries, he is prone to overpromising and underdelivering.

Yes, he is a bit “weird”, but I would argue it’s unlikely that he would have accomplished so much without being that way. Eccentrics such as Musk have an impact because of their faults, not despite them, and the world is a better place with him in it.

As John Stuart Mill once said, “That so few choose to be eccentric marks the chief danger of our time.” Or to paraphrase Mr Miyagi, “Man who catch with chopstick accomplish anything.”

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/visionary-elon-musk-is-back-in-his-prime-and-we-should-be-excited-20241027-p5klnm.html?

Witty Rejoinder said:

This is what happens when the finance guy ventures beyond his remit:

…

‘Visionary’ Elon Musk is back in his prime, and we should be excited

William Bennett
Money contributor
October 27, 2024 — 1.47pm

It’s fair to say Elon Musk is having a pretty good month. On Thursday, Tesla stock had its best day in more than 11 years, adding $US150 billion ($227 billion) to its market value and $26 billion to Musk’s personal wealth after reporting stronger-than-expected earnings.

The result puts Tesla shares positive for the year and caps off an action-packed month for Musk in which I was reminded of the old futurist Elon, the visionary who motivated me to study physics and whose ambitions to colonise Mars inspired a wonder for science and technology to a generation.

For me, it was last week’s Starship launch that restored my faith in humanity and Elon Musk, as we saw the first successful recapture of a Starship booster, when an object the size of a 23-storey building was plucked from midair by a pair of giant metal chopsticks.

It was a truly awe-inspiring feat that brought a tear to my eye, given my government can’t even build a basic high-speed rail line.

It is hard to understate the sheer brilliance of SpaceX, which has truly refined the phrase “rocket science”. Since 2015, SpaceX has made more than 300 successful launches of various rockets. Starship, which marked its fifth launch last week, is the largest and most powerful rocket ever to fly.

SpaceX’s reusable rocket technology is set to revolutionise the economics of space travel and make SpaceX the second most valuable start-up ever created.

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures or mock his Cybertruck design.

Analysts at Morgan Stanley forecast that SpaceX’s revenues could triple to $63 billion by 2030 – more than double what NASA receives from the United States government.

By no means can Musk take all the credit. He has the help of a 13,000-strong team at SpaceX, but his ability to marshal resources and create “efficient” businesses makes him the secret envy of many a CEO.

“Elon is singular in his understanding of engineering and construction and large systems and marshalling resources; it’s just unbelievable,” said Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, in a recent interview in which he praised Musk for setting up a supercomputer in 19 days as a “superhuman” effort.

Projections suggest SpaceX will achieve a staggering 99 per cent cost reduction from NASA’s Space Shuttle era, potentially lowering costs of reaching low Earth orbit to $100 per kg, compared to NASA’s $65,000 per kg during the Space Shuttle program.

If we judge a man by his actions and not his words, Musk is surely deserving of a Nobel Prize. He has founded not one, but four companies that have forever changed the future of our species.

The creation of Tesla brought electric vehicles to the masses and has been integral to our fight against climate change. His Neuralink implant allows quadriplegics to perform mind control, while Starlink satellites provide affordable internet access from Argentina to Zimbabwe. He is one of the co-founders of OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT.

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures, mock his Cybertruck design, or complain that he dreams bigger than he can deliver.

It can’t be described in any other terms than Musk derangement syndrome – the people who refuse to see good in what he does, purely because of his politics. If you’re not impressed with Optimus robots that can serve drinks, even if they are remote-controlled, I challenge you to build something better.

While many of his opinions are controversial (to say the least), his bark has largely been worse than his bite and his positive impacts far eclipse the right-wing, anti “woke” hyperbole spouted online.

Before this week’s $150 billion earnings boost, Drew Dickson of Albert Bridge Capital estimates that Tesla’s auto business may only be worth between $70 and $100 billion, meaning the remaining $650 billion of its market capitalisation is largely based on investor optimism about its as-yet-unproven technologies.

Except for Trump Media ($DJT), never has there been a company whose performance has been so closely tied to sentiment towards a single individual as Tesla is to Musk. Indeed, Tesla’s title as the most valuable “car” company reflects the market’s attempt to try to value Musk’s ambitions from what is possible. It appears sentiment is turning.

”We are all impostors who must deploy a fiction that captures the imagination and attracts capital to pull the future forward and turn rhyme into reason,” writes entrepreneur Scott Galloway in a recent blog post. “No business I have started, at the moment of inception, made any sense, until it did. Or didn’t. The only way to predict the future is to make it”.

Musk’s real talent is turning blue-sky ideas into commercial realities, and to obsess over his political views and personal flaws is to miss the point. Like most visionaries, he is prone to overpromising and underdelivering.

Yes, he is a bit “weird”, but I would argue it’s unlikely that he would have accomplished so much without being that way. Eccentrics such as Musk have an impact because of their faults, not despite them, and the world is a better place with him in it.

As John Stuart Mill once said, “That so few choose to be eccentric marks the chief danger of our time.” Or to paraphrase Mr Miyagi, “Man who catch with chopstick accomplish anything.”

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/visionary-elon-musk-is-back-in-his-prime-and-we-should-be-excited-20241027-p5klnm.html?

That is the best and most realistic appraisal of Elon Musk that I have encountered. It should make his detractors reassess him but I doubt that they will as they are too wedded to their political tribe.

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

This is what happens when the finance guy ventures beyond his remit:

…

‘Visionary’ Elon Musk is back in his prime, and we should be excited

William Bennett
Money contributor
October 27, 2024 — 1.47pm

It’s fair to say Elon Musk is having a pretty good month. On Thursday, Tesla stock had its best day in more than 11 years, adding $US150 billion ($227 billion) to its market value and $26 billion to Musk’s personal wealth after reporting stronger-than-expected earnings.

The result puts Tesla shares positive for the year and caps off an action-packed month for Musk in which I was reminded of the old futurist Elon, the visionary who motivated me to study physics and whose ambitions to colonise Mars inspired a wonder for science and technology to a generation.

For me, it was last week’s Starship launch that restored my faith in humanity and Elon Musk, as we saw the first successful recapture of a Starship booster, when an object the size of a 23-storey building was plucked from midair by a pair of giant metal chopsticks.

It was a truly awe-inspiring feat that brought a tear to my eye, given my government can’t even build a basic high-speed rail line.

It is hard to understate the sheer brilliance of SpaceX, which has truly refined the phrase “rocket science”. Since 2015, SpaceX has made more than 300 successful launches of various rockets. Starship, which marked its fifth launch last week, is the largest and most powerful rocket ever to fly.

SpaceX’s reusable rocket technology is set to revolutionise the economics of space travel and make SpaceX the second most valuable start-up ever created.

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures or mock his Cybertruck design.

Analysts at Morgan Stanley forecast that SpaceX’s revenues could triple to $63 billion by 2030 – more than double what NASA receives from the United States government.

By no means can Musk take all the credit. He has the help of a 13,000-strong team at SpaceX, but his ability to marshal resources and create “efficient” businesses makes him the secret envy of many a CEO.

“Elon is singular in his understanding of engineering and construction and large systems and marshalling resources; it’s just unbelievable,” said Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, in a recent interview in which he praised Musk for setting up a supercomputer in 19 days as a “superhuman” effort.

Projections suggest SpaceX will achieve a staggering 99 per cent cost reduction from NASA’s Space Shuttle era, potentially lowering costs of reaching low Earth orbit to $100 per kg, compared to NASA’s $65,000 per kg during the Space Shuttle program.

If we judge a man by his actions and not his words, Musk is surely deserving of a Nobel Prize. He has founded not one, but four companies that have forever changed the future of our species.

The creation of Tesla brought electric vehicles to the masses and has been integral to our fight against climate change. His Neuralink implant allows quadriplegics to perform mind control, while Starlink satellites provide affordable internet access from Argentina to Zimbabwe. He is one of the co-founders of OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT.

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures, mock his Cybertruck design, or complain that he dreams bigger than he can deliver.

It can’t be described in any other terms than Musk derangement syndrome – the people who refuse to see good in what he does, purely because of his politics. If you’re not impressed with Optimus robots that can serve drinks, even if they are remote-controlled, I challenge you to build something better.

While many of his opinions are controversial (to say the least), his bark has largely been worse than his bite and his positive impacts far eclipse the right-wing, anti “woke” hyperbole spouted online.

Before this week’s $150 billion earnings boost, Drew Dickson of Albert Bridge Capital estimates that Tesla’s auto business may only be worth between $70 and $100 billion, meaning the remaining $650 billion of its market capitalisation is largely based on investor optimism about its as-yet-unproven technologies.

Except for Trump Media ($DJT), never has there been a company whose performance has been so closely tied to sentiment towards a single individual as Tesla is to Musk. Indeed, Tesla’s title as the most valuable “car” company reflects the market’s attempt to try to value Musk’s ambitions from what is possible. It appears sentiment is turning.

”We are all impostors who must deploy a fiction that captures the imagination and attracts capital to pull the future forward and turn rhyme into reason,” writes entrepreneur Scott Galloway in a recent blog post. “No business I have started, at the moment of inception, made any sense, until it did. Or didn’t. The only way to predict the future is to make it”.

Musk’s real talent is turning blue-sky ideas into commercial realities, and to obsess over his political views and personal flaws is to miss the point. Like most visionaries, he is prone to overpromising and underdelivering.

Yes, he is a bit “weird”, but I would argue it’s unlikely that he would have accomplished so much without being that way. Eccentrics such as Musk have an impact because of their faults, not despite them, and the world is a better place with him in it.

As John Stuart Mill once said, “That so few choose to be eccentric marks the chief danger of our time.” Or to paraphrase Mr Miyagi, “Man who catch with chopstick accomplish anything.”

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/visionary-elon-musk-is-back-in-his-prime-and-we-should-be-excited-20241027-p5klnm.html?

That is the best and most realistic appraisal of Elon Musk that I have encountered. It should make his detractors reassess him but I doubt that they will as they are too wedded to their political tribe.

He’s a self-promoting waste of space who is rapidly becoming worse than a waste of space, and that writer is a buffoon who thinks that Musk himself is responsible for Space X’s engineering feats, and the other accomplishments of his employees.

Bubblecar said:

PermeateFree said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

This is what happens when the finance guy ventures beyond his remit:

…

‘Visionary’ Elon Musk is back in his prime, and we should be excited

William Bennett
Money contributor
October 27, 2024 — 1.47pm

It’s fair to say Elon Musk is having a pretty good month. On Thursday, Tesla stock had its best day in more than 11 years, adding $US150 billion ($227 billion) to its market value and $26 billion to Musk’s personal wealth after reporting stronger-than-expected earnings.

The result puts Tesla shares positive for the year and caps off an action-packed month for Musk in which I was reminded of the old futurist Elon, the visionary who motivated me to study physics and whose ambitions to colonise Mars inspired a wonder for science and technology to a generation.

For me, it was last week’s Starship launch that restored my faith in humanity and Elon Musk, as we saw the first successful recapture of a Starship booster, when an object the size of a 23-storey building was plucked from midair by a pair of giant metal chopsticks.

It was a truly awe-inspiring feat that brought a tear to my eye, given my government can’t even build a basic high-speed rail line.

It is hard to understate the sheer brilliance of SpaceX, which has truly refined the phrase “rocket science”. Since 2015, SpaceX has made more than 300 successful launches of various rockets. Starship, which marked its fifth launch last week, is the largest and most powerful rocket ever to fly.

SpaceX’s reusable rocket technology is set to revolutionise the economics of space travel and make SpaceX the second most valuable start-up ever created.

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures or mock his Cybertruck design.

Analysts at Morgan Stanley forecast that SpaceX’s revenues could triple to $63 billion by 2030 – more than double what NASA receives from the United States government.

By no means can Musk take all the credit. He has the help of a 13,000-strong team at SpaceX, but his ability to marshal resources and create “efficient” businesses makes him the secret envy of many a CEO.

“Elon is singular in his understanding of engineering and construction and large systems and marshalling resources; it’s just unbelievable,” said Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, in a recent interview in which he praised Musk for setting up a supercomputer in 19 days as a “superhuman” effort.

Projections suggest SpaceX will achieve a staggering 99 per cent cost reduction from NASA’s Space Shuttle era, potentially lowering costs of reaching low Earth orbit to $100 per kg, compared to NASA’s $65,000 per kg during the Space Shuttle program.

If we judge a man by his actions and not his words, Musk is surely deserving of a Nobel Prize. He has founded not one, but four companies that have forever changed the future of our species.

The creation of Tesla brought electric vehicles to the masses and has been integral to our fight against climate change. His Neuralink implant allows quadriplegics to perform mind control, while Starlink satellites provide affordable internet access from Argentina to Zimbabwe. He is one of the co-founders of OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT.

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures, mock his Cybertruck design, or complain that he dreams bigger than he can deliver.

It can’t be described in any other terms than Musk derangement syndrome – the people who refuse to see good in what he does, purely because of his politics. If you’re not impressed with Optimus robots that can serve drinks, even if they are remote-controlled, I challenge you to build something better.

While many of his opinions are controversial (to say the least), his bark has largely been worse than his bite and his positive impacts far eclipse the right-wing, anti “woke” hyperbole spouted online.

Before this week’s $150 billion earnings boost, Drew Dickson of Albert Bridge Capital estimates that Tesla’s auto business may only be worth between $70 and $100 billion, meaning the remaining $650 billion of its market capitalisation is largely based on investor optimism about its as-yet-unproven technologies.

Except for Trump Media ($DJT), never has there been a company whose performance has been so closely tied to sentiment towards a single individual as Tesla is to Musk. Indeed, Tesla’s title as the most valuable “car” company reflects the market’s attempt to try to value Musk’s ambitions from what is possible. It appears sentiment is turning.

”We are all impostors who must deploy a fiction that captures the imagination and attracts capital to pull the future forward and turn rhyme into reason,” writes entrepreneur Scott Galloway in a recent blog post. “No business I have started, at the moment of inception, made any sense, until it did. Or didn’t. The only way to predict the future is to make it”.

Musk’s real talent is turning blue-sky ideas into commercial realities, and to obsess over his political views and personal flaws is to miss the point. Like most visionaries, he is prone to overpromising and underdelivering.

Yes, he is a bit “weird”, but I would argue it’s unlikely that he would have accomplished so much without being that way. Eccentrics such as Musk have an impact because of their faults, not despite them, and the world is a better place with him in it.

As John Stuart Mill once said, “That so few choose to be eccentric marks the chief danger of our time.” Or to paraphrase Mr Miyagi, “Man who catch with chopstick accomplish anything.”

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/visionary-elon-musk-is-back-in-his-prime-and-we-should-be-excited-20241027-p5klnm.html?

That is the best and most realistic appraisal of Elon Musk that I have encountered. It should make his detractors reassess him but I doubt that they will as they are too wedded to their political tribe.

He’s a self-promoting waste of space who is rapidly becoming worse than a waste of space, and that writer is a buffoon who thinks that Musk himself is responsible for Space X’s engineering feats, and the other accomplishments of his employees.

And you are a silly unimaginative fool.

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

PermeateFree said:

That is the best and most realistic appraisal of Elon Musk that I have encountered. It should make his detractors reassess him but I doubt that they will as they are too wedded to their political tribe.

He’s a self-promoting waste of space who is rapidly becoming worse than a waste of space, and that writer is a buffoon who thinks that Musk himself is responsible for Space X’s engineering feats, and the other accomplishments of his employees.

And you are a silly unimaginative fool.

And you’re a wanky elon fanboy – quite an embarrassing fate for a daft old bloke in the bush.

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

PermeateFree said:

That is the best and most realistic appraisal of Elon Musk that I have encountered. It should make his detractors reassess him but I doubt that they will as they are too wedded to their political tribe.

He’s a self-promoting waste of space who is rapidly becoming worse than a waste of space, and that writer is a buffoon who thinks that Musk himself is responsible for Space X’s engineering feats, and the other accomplishments of his employees.

And you are a silly unimaginative fool.

To be fair and it should count for all companies is the acknowledgment like Bubblecar said of all the people who work for them

Witty Rejoinder said:

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures or mock his Cybertruck design.

The Cybertruck is really not a very good thing. The panel fit is terrible, it’s hopeless off-road, has quite a small rear tray, and I suspect more people find it hideous than beautiful.

And Musk is also throwing large sums of money in trying to sway the election to get Trump voted in. And that’s simple inexcusable by any rational person.

Bubblecar said:

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

He’s a self-promoting waste of space who is rapidly becoming worse than a waste of space, and that writer is a buffoon who thinks that Musk himself is responsible for Space X’s engineering feats, and the other accomplishments of his employees.

And you are a silly unimaginative fool.

And you’re a wanky elon fanboy – quite an embarrassing fate for a daft old bloke in the bush.

You are so biased and swallowed up with your self-importance you cannot see anything but your own fat navel.

Spiny Norman said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures or mock his Cybertruck design.

The Cybertruck is really not a very good thing. The panel fit is terrible, it’s hopeless off-road, has quite a small rear tray, and I suspect more people find it hideous than beautiful.

And Musk is also throwing large sums of money in trying to sway the election to get Trump voted in. And that’s simple inexcusable by any rational person.

Open your mind

Spiny Norman said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures or mock his Cybertruck design.

The Cybertruck is really not a very good thing. The panel fit is terrible, it’s hopeless off-road, has quite a small rear tray, and I suspect more people find it hideous than beautiful.

And Musk is also throwing large sums of money in trying to sway the election to get Trump voted in. And that’s simple inexcusable by any rational person.

Why don’t you just read the article instead of making childish assessments.

Cymek said:

Spiny Norman said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures or mock his Cybertruck design.

The Cybertruck is really not a very good thing. The panel fit is terrible, it’s hopeless off-road, has quite a small rear tray, and I suspect more people find it hideous than beautiful.

And Musk is also throwing large sums of money in trying to sway the election to get Trump voted in. And that’s simple inexcusable by any rational person.

Open your mind

:)
Glad someone got it.

PermeateFree said:

Spiny Norman said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures or mock his Cybertruck design.

The Cybertruck is really not a very good thing. The panel fit is terrible, it’s hopeless off-road, has quite a small rear tray, and I suspect more people find it hideous than beautiful.

And Musk is also throwing large sums of money in trying to sway the election to get Trump voted in. And that’s simple inexcusable by any rational person.

Why don’t you just read the article instead of making childish assessments.

I did. It hasn’t changed my opinion at all.
He has positives & negatives. The balance between the two has strongly swung towards the negative lately.

Spiny Norman said:

Cymek said:

Spiny Norman said:

The Cybertruck is really not a very good thing. The panel fit is terrible, it’s hopeless off-road, has quite a small rear tray, and I suspect more people find it hideous than beautiful.

And Musk is also throwing large sums of money in trying to sway the election to get Trump voted in. And that’s simple inexcusable by any rational person.

Open your mind

:)
Glad someone got it.

I am very tired of saying what I have been saying here for years, is you should look in the mirror because you are being unbelievingly hypocritical and small minded.

if they’re paid then they’re not sock puppets

PermeateFree said:

Spiny Norman said:

Cymek said:

Open your mind

:)
Glad someone got it.

I am very tired of saying what I have been saying here for years, is you should look in the mirror because you are being unbelievingly hypocritical and small minded.

Me ?

I don’t really have a problem with him.
The self promotion gets tiring but that’s me, attention seekers regardless of whom they are becoming obnoxious after a while.
It is more than him though, tens of thousands of hard workers are involved, some very clever people as well

Spiny Norman said:

PermeateFree said:

Spiny Norman said:

The Cybertruck is really not a very good thing. The panel fit is terrible, it’s hopeless off-road, has quite a small rear tray, and I suspect more people find it hideous than beautiful.

And Musk is also throwing large sums of money in trying to sway the election to get Trump voted in. And that’s simple inexcusable by any rational person.

Why don’t you just read the article instead of making childish assessments.

I did. It hasn’t changed my opinion at all.
He has positives & negatives. The balance between the two has strongly swung towards the negative lately.

I did not post the article; I only complimented the writer on a realistic assessment of Elon Musk. But was immediately attacked by the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum. Just goes to show how narrow-minded some here are.

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

Spiny Norman said:

:)
Glad someone got it.

I am very tired of saying what I have been saying here for years, is you should look in the mirror because you are being unbelievingly hypocritical and small minded.

Me ?

I don’t really have a problem with him.
The self promotion gets tiring but that’s me, attention seekers regardless of whom they are becoming obnoxious after a while.
It is more than him though, tens of thousands of hard workers are involved, some very clever people as well

No not you, but the other one who continually lives in a left-wing bubble.

PermeateFree said:

Spiny Norman said:

PermeateFree said:

Why don’t you just read the article instead of making childish assessments.

I did. It hasn’t changed my opinion at all.
He has positives & negatives. The balance between the two has strongly swung towards the negative lately.

I did not post the article; I only complimented the writer on a realistic assessment of Elon Musk. But was immediately attacked by the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum. Just goes to show how narrow-minded some here are.

No, it’s just that the majority of people don’t agree with you.
It’s because of the way he behaves, and it’s unacceptable. I refuse to be an apologist for him.
(Super impressed with SpaceX progress though)

Elon Musk sued by Philadelphia DA over ‘illegal’ $US1 million daily giveaways

Illegal Lotery?

roughbarked said:

Elon Musk sued by Philadelphia DA over ‘illegal’ $US1 million daily giveaways

Illegal Lotery?

votery

Spiny Norman said:

PermeateFree said:

Spiny Norman said:

I did. It hasn’t changed my opinion at all.
He has positives & negatives. The balance between the two has strongly swung towards the negative lately.

I did not post the article; I only complimented the writer on a realistic assessment of Elon Musk. But was immediately attacked by the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum. Just goes to show how narrow-minded some here are.

No, it’s just that the majority of people don’t agree with you.
It’s because of the way he behaves, and it’s unacceptable. I refuse to be an apologist for him.
(Super impressed with SpaceX progress though)

You should be super impressed with all his achievements they are life changing. So, you don’t like him or his politics which is fair enough, but an intelligent person should be able to separate the two.

Spiny Norman said:

PermeateFree said:

Spiny Norman said:

I did. It hasn’t changed my opinion at all.
He has positives & negatives. The balance between the two has strongly swung towards the negative lately.

I did not post the article; I only complimented the writer on a realistic assessment of Elon Musk. But was immediately attacked by the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum. Just goes to show how narrow-minded some here are.

No, it’s just that the majority of people don’t agree with you.
It’s because of the way he behaves, and it’s unacceptable. I refuse to be an apologist for him.
(Super impressed with SpaceX progress though)

elon fanbois are just another trump cult.

LOL imagine taking credit because of lending credit

PermeateFree said:

Spiny Norman said:

PermeateFree said:

I did not post the article; I only complimented the writer on a realistic assessment of Elon Musk. But was immediately attacked by the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum. Just goes to show how narrow-minded some here are.

No, it’s just that the majority of people don’t agree with you.
It’s because of the way he behaves, and it’s unacceptable. I refuse to be an apologist for him.
(Super impressed with SpaceX progress though)

You should be super impressed with all his achievements they are life changing. So, you don’t like him or his politics which is fair enough, but an intelligent person should be able to separate the two.

I just did.
But they really can’t be completely separated, a lot of what he’s doing right now may potentially damage the US greatly. That is inexcusable.

ChrispenEvan said:

Spiny Norman said:

PermeateFree said:

I did not post the article; I only complimented the writer on a realistic assessment of Elon Musk. But was immediately attacked by the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum. Just goes to show how narrow-minded some here are.

No, it’s just that the majority of people don’t agree with you.
It’s because of the way he behaves, and it’s unacceptable. I refuse to be an apologist for him.
(Super impressed with SpaceX progress though)

elon fanbois are just another trump cult.

For your information, I do not like Trump or his politics.

PermeateFree said:

Spiny Norman said:

PermeateFree said:

Why don’t you just read the article instead of making childish assessments.

I did. It hasn’t changed my opinion at all.
He has positives & negatives. The balance between the two has strongly swung towards the negative lately.

I did not post the article; I only complimented the writer on a realistic assessment of Elon Musk. But was immediately attacked by the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum. Just goes to show how narrow-minded some here are.

You weren’t attacked by anyone until you started throwing insults around.

Bubblecar posted his dislike for Elon and of the articles author. You then went straight for the personal attack first.

Kingy said:

PermeateFree said:

Spiny Norman said:

I did. It hasn’t changed my opinion at all.
He has positives & negatives. The balance between the two has strongly swung towards the negative lately.

I did not post the article; I only complimented the writer on a realistic assessment of Elon Musk. But was immediately attacked by the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum. Just goes to show how narrow-minded some here are.

You weren’t attacked by anyone until you started throwing insults around.

Bubblecar posted his dislike for Elon and of the articles author. You then went straight for the personal attack first.

also, it’s all lies and bullshit because Bubblecar isn’t the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum, we are

so Trump and Musk can go fuck themselves

SCIENCE said:

Kingy said:

PermeateFree said:

I did not post the article; I only complimented the writer on a realistic assessment of Elon Musk. But was immediately attacked by the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum. Just goes to show how narrow-minded some here are.

You weren’t attacked by anyone until you started throwing insults around.

Bubblecar posted his dislike for Elon and of the articles author. You then went straight for the personal attack first.

also, it’s all lies and bullshit because Bubblecar isn’t the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum, we are

so Trump and Musk can go fuck themselves

a match made in heaven.

Spiny Norman said:

PermeateFree said:

Spiny Norman said:

No, it’s just that the majority of people don’t agree with you.
It’s because of the way he behaves, and it’s unacceptable. I refuse to be an apologist for him.
(Super impressed with SpaceX progress though)

You should be super impressed with all his achievements they are life changing. So, you don’t like him or his politics which is fair enough, but an intelligent person should be able to separate the two.

I just did.
But they really can’t be completely separated, a lot of what he’s doing right now may potentially damage the US greatly. That is inexcusable.

I agree he is interfering in USA politics, and he shouldn’t be doing it, but the politics of that country is highly me, me, me and no doubt there is more for him helping Trump, than helping Haris.

The worry I suppose is he uses off planet colonisation as a bolt hole for the rich and powerful when the Earth is well and truly wrecked.

Unlikely I think as Mars at its best would be very harsh and unforgiving.

Don’t want to repeat the mistakes on Earth elsewhere

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

Kingy said:

You weren’t attacked by anyone until you started throwing insults around.

Bubblecar posted his dislike for Elon and of the articles author. You then went straight for the personal attack first.

also, it’s all lies and bullshit because Bubblecar isn’t the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum, we are

so Trump and Musk can go fuck themselves

a match made in heaven.

well they should hurry up and get their arses off to Mars forthwith

Cymek said:

The worry I suppose is he uses off planet colonisation as a bolt hole for the rich and powerful when the Earth is well and truly wrecked.

Unlikely I think as Mars at its best would be very harsh and unforgiving.

Don’t want to repeat the mistakes on Earth elsewhere

mistakes like populism and capitalism

wait

fuck

PermeateFree said:

Spiny Norman said:

PermeateFree said:

You should be super impressed with all his achievements they are life changing. So, you don’t like him or his politics which is fair enough, but an intelligent person should be able to separate the two.

I just did.
But they really can’t be completely separated, a lot of what he’s doing right now may potentially damage the US greatly. That is inexcusable.

I agree he is interfering in USA politics, and he shouldn’t be doing it, but the politics of that country is highly me, me, me and no doubt there is more for him helping Trump, than helping Haris.

Yes every person and his dog has an opinion many who should keep quiet.

Taking a side in politics does compromise one’s neutrality in situations.

Creating a different “better?” world should try not to support politics as it is now

SCIENCE said:

Kingy said:

PermeateFree said:

I did not post the article; I only complimented the writer on a realistic assessment of Elon Musk. But was immediately attacked by the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum. Just goes to show how narrow-minded some here are.

You weren’t attacked by anyone until you started throwing insults around.

Bubblecar posted his dislike for Elon and of the articles author. You then went straight for the personal attack first.

also, it’s all lies and bullshit because Bubblecar isn’t the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum, we are

so Trump and Musk can go fuck themselves

Car is always tearing someone or something down which he was also doing here. Might have jumped the personal gun a little, but that slanderous attention-seeker gets on my nerves.

PermeateFree said:

SCIENCE said:

Kingy said:

You weren’t attacked by anyone until you started throwing insults around.

Bubblecar posted his dislike for Elon and of the articles author. You then went straight for the personal attack first.

also, it’s all lies and bullshit because Bubblecar isn’t the most stupidly leftist and self-righteous fool in the forum, we are

so Trump and Musk can go fuck themselves

Car is always tearing someone or something down which he was also doing here. Might have jumped the personal gun a little, but that slanderous attention-seeker gets on my nerves.

disagree in fact we were having a nice chat about the price of broccoli in Tasmania whatever that’s got to do with

Spiny Norman said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures or mock his Cybertruck design.

The Cybertruck is really not a very good thing. The panel fit is terrible, it’s hopeless off-road, has quite a small rear tray, and I suspect more people find it hideous than beautiful.

And Musk is also throwing large sums of money in trying to sway the election to get Trump voted in. And that’s simple inexcusable by any rational person.

The funny thing is that despite Elon’s fealty, DJT still makes fun of electric vehicles.

dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Despite the benefits Musk’s success may bring to our lives, detractors rejoice in SpaceX’s launch failures or mock his Cybertruck design.

The Cybertruck is really not a very good thing. The panel fit is terrible, it’s hopeless off-road, has quite a small rear tray, and I suspect more people find it hideous than beautiful.

And Musk is also throwing large sums of money in trying to sway the election to get Trump voted in. And that’s simple inexcusable by any rational person.

The funny thing is that despite Elon’s fealty, DJT still makes fun of electric vehicles.

What is there to make fun of with electric vehicles, the lack of noise perhaps who cares.
They are in their infancy still, so problems will emerge.
To me they are just the next evolution in cars and a logical step

dv said:

Not entirely sure that the word ‘other’ belongs in there.

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Not entirely sure that the word ‘other’ belongs in there.

Convince us he isn’t a lizard of PF in disguise perhaps

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Not entirely sure that the word ‘other’ belongs in there.

Convince us he isn’t a lizard of PF in disguise perhaps

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Not entirely sure that the word ‘other’ belongs in there.

Convince us he isn’t a lizard of PF in disguise perhaps

I simply don’t read, let alone post in social media under any name. There are more important things to do in life.

PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Not entirely sure that the word ‘other’ belongs in there.

Convince us he isn’t a lizard of PF in disguise perhaps

I simply don’t read, let alone post in social media under any name. There are more important things to do in life.

I’m stirring you, apologies, I don’t mean it

dv said:

wait we think we’ve seen this Forum poster before

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

Convince us he isn’t a lizard of PF in disguise perhaps

I simply don’t read, let alone post in social media under any name. There are more important things to do in life.

I’m stirring you, apologies, I don’t mean it

This Forum Isn’t Social Media ¡ We’re Not One Of Yous Sheep ¡ No ¡

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Not entirely sure that the word ‘other’ belongs in there.

Convince us he isn’t a lizard of PF in disguise perhaps

what do you mean disguise

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

I simply don’t read, let alone post in social media under any name. There are more important things to do in life.

I’m stirring you, apologies, I don’t mean it

This Forum Isn’t Social Media ¡ We’re Not One Of Yous Sheep ¡ No ¡

Even though some have woolley thinking?

Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

I’m stirring you, apologies, I don’t mean it

This Forum Isn’t Social Media ¡ We’re Not One Of Yous Sheep ¡ No ¡

Even though some have woolley thinking?

they don’t cotton on very quickly

Elon should smoke more dope.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Elon should smoke more dope.

Does it affect reptiles like it does humans?

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Elon should smoke more dope.

Does it affect reptiles like it does humans?

Makes them chase their tail.

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Elon should smoke more dope.

Does it affect reptiles like it does humans?

I think the King Loony is rounding up the Loony gang. :)))

PermeateFree said:

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Elon should smoke more dope.

Does it affect reptiles like it does humans?

I think the King Loony is rounding up the Loony gang. :)))

Wonder if Elon will get a Whitehouse free entry?

Tau.Neutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

captain_spalding said:

Does it affect reptiles like it does humans?

I think the King Loony is rounding up the Loony gang. :)))

Wonder if Elon will get a Whitehouse free entry?

Apparently, Elon is going to be put in charge of re-organising the whole federal government.

He’ll be able to draw on his experience of the superb overhaul of Twitter.

i expect that the Dear Leader will give him a gold pass to any and all federal facilities.

Tau.Neutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

captain_spalding said:

Does it affect reptiles like it does humans?

I think the King Loony is rounding up the Loony gang. :)))

Wonder if Elon will get a Whitehouse free entry?

Probably have his own office.

PermeateFree said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

I think the King Loony is rounding up the Loony gang. :)))

Wonder if Elon will get a Whitehouse free entry?

Probably have his own office.

Probably a cabinet position of some kind.

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

I think the King Loony is rounding up the Loony gang. :)))

Wonder if Elon will get a Whitehouse free entry?

Apparently, Elon is going to be put in charge of re-organising the whole federal government.

He’ll be able to draw on his experience of the superb overhaul of Twitter.

i expect that the Dear Leader will give him a gold pass to any and all federal facilities.

So he’ll be leaving the sink and home and bringing a new broom?

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a62919131/tesla-has-highest-fatal-accident-rate-of-all-auto-brands-study/

To its credit, the Cybertruck sent police an automatic alert that it had crashed at 3:08 am Wednesday morning, according to KCRA, though police received another 911 call from a person at the same time. Police arrived on the scene at Hampton Road and King Avenue and found the Tesla consumed in flames between the cement wall and a sidewalk.

https://sfist.com/2024/11/27/three-dead-one-injured-in-early-morning-cybertruck-fire-in-piedmont/

look we haven’t bought or owned or used one so don’t blame us for not reading the flying manual but

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-CC0004CA-C1AA-42E8-9412-B921D3B31811.html

In the unlikely event that Cybertruck has no low voltage power, you will be unable to open the doors with the interior door open button. See Opening Doors with No Power for more information.

LOL fuck

seems pretty easy to do in a desperate rush while injured and burning to death

dv said:

How do you open the boot to load in the shopping?

dv said:

:)

(I suspect a photoshop job.)

Michael V said:

dv said:

:)

(I suspect a photoshop job.)

nah it’s all so bad that they took this long to find a single place where the vehicle actually demonstrates marginal benefit

dv said:

I wouldn’t be touching that sock without hazmat gear, especially when self love is mentioned.

dv said:

Sigh.

Heh.

All jokes aside if someone I knew personally started up this behaviour I’d be very worried. Man’s not well.

dv said:

All jokes aside if someone I knew personally started up this behaviour I’d be very worried. Man’s not well.

He’s a dope smoker.

dv said:

All jokes aside if someone I knew personally started up this behaviour I’d be very worried. Man’s not well.

He always has his body guard with him.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

All jokes aside if someone I knew personally started up this behaviour I’d be very worried. Man’s not well.

He’s a dope smoker.

certainly smoked a heap of dopes

kii said:

dv said:

All jokes aside if someone I knew personally started up this behaviour I’d be very worried. Man’s not well.

He always has his body guard with him.

so if it really does share heredity we should get the experts in self defensive genocide onto the case

kii said:

dv said:

All jokes aside if someone I knew personally started up this behaviour I’d be very worried. Man’s not well.

He always has his body guard with him.

He wants to savour these precious years before they grow up and disown him

https://www.threads.net/@yonetteajoseph/post/DESwDoxPSXg?xmt=AQGz9L8×2gDmzMJQ7EIB7lv6Ex3nS3IVSBbIhlq7kPg3hg

ROFLMFAO

https://daily88media.cam/teslas-new-most-expensive-golden-car-shocked-the-world/

Link

who knows what is true anymore?

ChrispenEvan said:

https://daily88media.cam/teslas-new-most-expensive-golden-car-shocked-the-world/

Link

who knows what is true anymore?

Plato

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://daily88media.cam/teslas-new-most-expensive-golden-car-shocked-the-world/

Link

who knows what is true anymore?

Plato

Plato’s not here, man.

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://daily88media.cam/teslas-new-most-expensive-golden-car-shocked-the-world/

Link

who knows what is true anymore?

Plato

solid

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/23/business/elon-musk-giorgia-meloni.html

This is a few months old
Just for folks who are new to Elon’s political leanings

>>Man arrested after NSW Police Wall of Remembrance in The Domain defaced

And unfortunately, he hit his head when getting into the van, several times.

Peak Warming Man said:

>>Man arrested after NSW Police Wall of Remembrance in The Domain defaced

And unfortunately, he hit his head when getting into the van, several times.

I don’t think we can blame EM for this

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

>>Man arrested after NSW Police Wall of Remembrance in The Domain defaced

And unfortunately, he hit his head when getting into the van, several times.

I don’t think we can blame EM for this

Woops.

INFO LA DEPECHE. Une concession Tesla incendiée : 12 voitures détruites, au moins 700 000 euros de dégâts

Dans la nuit, douze véhicules ont été détruits à Plaisance-du-Touch (Haute-Garonne), près de Toulouse, causant 700 000 € de préjudice. Vengeance, sabotage ou militantisme écologique anti-Musk ? L’enquête s’annonce complexe. Qui se cache derrière cet acte ?

Des carcasses noircies, des vitres soufflées, des portières déformées par la chaleur : dans la nuit de dimanche à lundi, un incendie criminel a ravagé douze véhicules dans une concession Tesla à Plaisance-du-Touch (Haute-Garonne), à l’ouest de Toulouse. Le préjudice est estimé à plus de 700 000 euros.

Huit voitures sont entièrement parties en fumée, tandis que quatre autres sont gravement endommagées. Selon les premiers éléments recueillis sur place, un ou plusieurs individus auraient découpé une section du grillage pour s’introduire dans l’enceinte avant de mettre le feu aux véhicules. Ils ont pris la fuite avant l’arrivée des renforts.

speaking of SI as yous were earlier today though we have to hand it to these cheese eating surrender monkeys though as yous can see from the copypaste they went to the effort of putting nonbreaking spaces in their quantities thereby earning our respect

SCIENCE said:

Smile.

dv said:

Hahahahaha.

:)

what a helpful guy

SpaceX has delayed a rescue mission for the return of two astronauts stranded on the International Space Station.

SpaceX successfully launches rescue team to the International Space Station.

roughbarked said:

SpaceX successfully launches rescue team to the International Space Station.

I thought that it was a routine crew changeover that had been grossly delayed. Not a ‘rescue mission’.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

SpaceX successfully launches rescue team to the International Space Station.

I thought that it was a routine crew changeover that had been grossly delayed. Not a ‘rescue mission’.

Yair well, it looks like they are pushing that part into history.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

SpaceX successfully launches rescue team to the International Space Station.

I thought that it was a routine crew changeover that had been grossly delayed. Not a ‘rescue mission’.

And they’re going to be up for a hefty bill.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

SpaceX successfully launches rescue team to the International Space Station.

I thought that it was a routine crew changeover that had been grossly delayed. Not a ‘rescue mission’.

Yair well, it looks like they are pushing that part into history.

Elon to the rescue, wat would we do without him.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

I thought that it was a routine crew changeover that had been grossly delayed. Not a ‘rescue mission’.

Yair well, it looks like they are pushing that part into history.

Elon to the rescue, wat would we do without him.

Without him?

Probably all become Pedos.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

SpaceX successfully launches rescue team to the International Space Station.

I thought that it was a routine crew changeover that had been grossly delayed. Not a ‘rescue mission’.

I thought I’d read that somewhere, but can’t find where I read it – which is annoying, as I’m finding no-one believes me.

Never paid attention to it before, but discovered the other day that the husband of an old acquaintance is supposed to be going up in a Space X rocket shortly, and that the it keeps being delayed is because Trump declared a hold on such things till he’s “rescued’ those ISS bods.

Neophyte said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

SpaceX successfully launches rescue team to the International Space Station.

I thought that it was a routine crew changeover that had been grossly delayed. Not a ‘rescue mission’.

I thought I’d read that somewhere, but can’t find where I read it – which is annoying, as I’m finding no-one believes me.

Never paid attention to it before, but discovered the other day that the husband of an old acquaintance is supposed to be going up in a Space X rocket shortly, and that the it keeps being delayed is because Trump declared a hold on such things till he’s “rescued’ those ISS bods.

There were supposed to be two contractors going to the ISS with new crews and resupply, Boeing and Space-X. The Space-X stuff works well enough, the problem is with Boeing. The crew stuck up there were the first to fly in on the Boeing program, having got them there successfully Boeing have managed to clusterfuck the whole program and can’t launch their next mission to bring them back and send the next crew. So the Space-X schedule has had to be reworked to make seats available for the stranded crew to come back down.

Boeing are starting to suck as an engineering company.

dv said:

Please use in a sentence.

Got pissed last night. Woke up this morning feeling a little embrittled.

Woodie said:

dv said:

Please use in a sentence.

Got pissed last night. Woke up this morning feeling a little embrittled.

Perfect

SCIENCE said:

Catturd2 does sound like a reliable source.

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

Catturd2 does sound like a reliable source.

fair but we guess so does elon musk

OMG: Elon Musk pulls INSANE stunt against Bernie and AOC

Tau.Neutrino said:

OMG: Elon Musk pulls INSANE stunt against Bernie and AOC

0:00
you might think that you’ve seen
0:01
pathetic before i can assure you that
0:04
not until you see what elon musk just
0:05
posted about bernie sanders and aoc have
0:08
you truly experienced pathetic so to set
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the stage bernie and aoc have been
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drawing record crowds on their stop
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oligarchy tour take a look at this video
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from their latest rally in denver where
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a staggering 34,000 people showed up in
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fact bernie is drawing bigger crowds now
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than when he ran for president and
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bigger crowds than trump drew when he
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held rallies in the same venues and
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given the fact that these rallies have
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focused on stopping oligarchy as the
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name of the tour aptly suggests it would
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lend itself to reason that one person
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who would find this especially insulting
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would be the republican party’s darling
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oligarch himself elon musk now comes the
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fun part elon is so desperate to try and
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discredit this grassroots movement that
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this is the tweet he decided to throw
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his lot in with and amplify that massive
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bernie sanders noc rally in denver turns
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out it wasn’t as grassroots as
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advertised despite claims of 34,000
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attendees gps data analysis reveals that
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the real number was closer to 20,000
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still big but not record-breaking more
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revealing a whopping 84% of those
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devices had shown up at nine or more
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other protests including antifa blm
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events pro- hamas and pro palestinian
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demonstrations and kla harris campaign
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stops over 30% had attended 20 or more
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data analysts say the crowd was anything
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but organic the majority were tied to
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activist network like disruption project
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indivisible democratic socialist of
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america rise and resist and
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troublemakers all reportedly funded by
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act blue and some receiving backing via
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usad optics over authenticity the
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playbook hasn’t changed just the targets
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source: zero hedge tony seruga and elon
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quote tweeted this and wrote “the dems
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just move around the same group of paid
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protesters.” okay how do i say this
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delicately
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do you
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know how stupid you have to be
1:57
to believe a single word of that tweet
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first of all who’s analyzing this gps
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data from devices does some random
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right-winger have access to all of
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verizon and at&t and t-mobile and every
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other cell carrier’s data and did they
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also compile all of this data from
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previous events and do they really think
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that there are not enough people in
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somewhere like denver colorado to show
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up for bernie sanders and aoc i mean my
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god the mental gymnastics here would be
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impressive if they weren’t so so stupid
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also i almost missed that it’s
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apparently also funded by usad because
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on this list of buzzwords why not just
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include usa id and apparently doge
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forgot to release that as part of their
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autopsy apparently there are millions of
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dollars still available even post doge
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for democrats to whisk tens of thousands
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of paid protesters across the entire
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united states even after they took an ax
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to the agency please someone make it
2:56
make sense but truly the dumbest part
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has got to be elon musk agreeing with
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all of this this guy is so desperate to
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explain away a movement against him that
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he’s literally trying to make paid
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protesters being whisked across the
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united states happen if musk had one
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centilla of evidence that these crowds
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are just throngs of act blueue and usad
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funded paid protesters that are going
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from one rally to the next i will quit
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politics today and join a monastery in
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indonesia honestly let me know because
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that is how certain i am that elon musk
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and his sources are full of the
3:32
reality is that musk’s desperate
3:34
flailing is a testament to the fact that
3:36
he has no leg to stand on here he is an
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aggressively unpopular billionaire whose
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sole focus is dismantling agencies that
3:43
were investigating him and eliminating
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programs that americans rely on to
3:47
survive like medicaid and food stamps
3:49
and cancer research and education
3:51
funding and jobs for veterans and so
3:53
much more mus doesn’t care about regular
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people because he is the farthest thing
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from a regular person his priority as it
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always has been is consolidating more
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wealth for himself he does not care
4:04
about you he cares about him his power
4:07
his influence his companies and his
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wallet that’s all and to that end here’s
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bernie and aoc making the exact points
4:14
that musk is currently trying to
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undermine now i don’t care if you’re a
4:20
conservative republican or a progressive
4:23
does anybody think it makes sense that
4:26
we have a campaign finance system where
4:30
one man musk can put
4:34
$270 million to get trump
4:40
elected and then his reward is that he
4:44
becomes the most powerful person in
4:46
government
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that is not democracy that is oligarchy
4:55
but it’s not just republicans you got
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billionaire democrats who are telling
5:01
candidates “don’t stand up for the
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working
5:04

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class.” so we’ve got a corrupt campaign
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finance system we got to get rid of this
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terrible citizens united supreme court
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decisions
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because
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medicaid medicare and social security
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were promises that we as a people have
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made to each other about the kind of
5:31
country we are and the kind of society
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we want to live
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in and i don’t know about you arizona
5:39
but i want to live in an america that
5:41
guarantees healthcare to every person
5:47
i want to live in an america that has a
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living wage for every
5:53
person i want to live in an america
5:56
where you have free speech to express
5:59
yourself and not be afraid of getting
6:02
put on a list or deported
6:06
but these promises that we’ve made they
6:09
are not promises from politicians to the
6:12
people or they’re not charity from
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billionaires to everyday americans they
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are promises we have made to each
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other neighbor to neighbor friend to
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friend teacher to
6:27
student family member to family member
6:31
that we want to live in a society that
6:33
is not depraved not every person for
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themselves but all of us standing
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together this is the promise that we
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make to each other as americans and so
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it would make sense that this is the
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type of enthusiasm that musk is trying
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to undermine because their message a
6:52
message that’s clearly resonating and
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drawing more people in march of an off
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year than you would even see in october
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of an election year is that exactly what
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musk is doing right now is what is most
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unpopular in this country he wants to be
7:04
the shadow president he wants to act
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with impunity he wants to upend the
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lives of hundreds of millions of
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americans all with zero accountability
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but he’s forgetting that at least for
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now this is still a democracy and he’s
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about to face the only force that truly
7:17
has the power to curb his own and that
7:19
is the american electorate his efforts
7:21
to pretend that it’s not real are only
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going to awaken people even
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Lots of cool pics on Reddit from SpaceX launch. Seems like many people were hoping a portal had opened up.

Divine Angel said:

Lots of cool pics on Reddit from SpaceX launch. Seems like many people were hoping a portal had opened up.

Why?

Elon wasn’t on board was he?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

Lots of cool pics on Reddit from SpaceX launch. Seems like many people were hoping a portal had opened up.

Why?

Elon wasn’t on board was he?

I suppose an inter dimensional portal is far more interesting than the shit storm on Earth.

If only they were as easy to dismantle as his wankpanzers

dv said:

If only they were as easy to dismantle as his wankpanzers

embrittlement. is a significant decrease of ductility of a material, which makes the material brittle.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

If only they were as easy to dismantle as his wankpanzers

embrittlement. is a significant decrease of ductility of a material, which makes the material brittle.

Embrittlement.

Embitterment.

Both good ‘Elon’ words.

I’ll wait to hear what Rev thinks.

Sending love because I’m worried that xAI might terminate him.

dv said:

I’ll wait to hear what Rev thinks.

so why are they using fascism as a contraceptive then

dv said:

I’ll wait to hear what Rev thinks.

I suspect you know what I think.

Not sure why this is in the Elon “love” therad.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I’ll wait to hear what Rev thinks.

I suspect you know what I think.

Not sure why this is in the Elon “love” therad.

I dunno either. Perhaps it is because he has contributed but not many others are siring as many as he is?

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I’ll wait to hear what Rev thinks.

I suspect you know what I think.

Not sure why this is in the Elon “love” therad.

I dunno either. Perhaps it is because he has contributed but not many others are siring as many as he is?

Didn’t think of that.

So this thread is all about Elon making babies?

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I suspect you know what I think.

Not sure why this is in the Elon “love” therad.

I dunno either. Perhaps it is because he has contributed but not many others are siring as many as he is?

Didn’t think of that.

So this thread is all about Elon making babies?

Someone needs to remind him that only producing children with penises won’t get very far in repopulating the world.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I suspect you know what I think.

Not sure why this is in the Elon “love” therad.

I dunno either. Perhaps it is because he has contributed but not many others are siring as many as he is?

Didn’t think of that.

So this thread is all about Elon making babies?

It was a random wild guess. Who knows what the fuck makes Elon’s brain tick over. He’s only a short straw away from Trump.

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

I dunno either. Perhaps it is because he has contributed but not many others are siring as many as he is?

Didn’t think of that.

So this thread is all about Elon making babies?

Someone needs to remind him that only producing children with penises won’t get very far in repopulating the world.

It is people like him that are the major contributors to the problem. The problem is that couples would put themselves into financial stress in order to have children. So they delay having children and have fewer children. Also, there seems to be a social stigma around being a stay-at-home mum. If societies want more children they have to make it more affordable, either higher wages, lower cost of housing, state subsidies or direct payments .. etc. And make raising children a socially valued occupation.

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Didn’t think of that.

So this thread is all about Elon making babies?

Someone needs to remind him that only producing children with penises won’t get very far in repopulating the world.

It is people like him that are the major contributors to the problem. The problem is that couples would put themselves into financial stress in order to have children. So they delay having children and have fewer children. Also, there seems to be a social stigma around being a stay-at-home mum. If societies want more children they have to make it more affordable, either higher wages, lower cost of housing, state subsidies or direct payments .. etc. And make raising children a socially valued occupation.

It may help to have bipartisan values about education. I think there is a lack of that.

From Quora (Alternative universe edition, by the look of it):

Will Tesla shareholders move to fire Musk?
No. If the 3 top holders of Tesla shares got together, they could pressure the board to fire Musk, and if they refuse, this group of major shareholders could fire the board and appoint a new board that would, but they won’t do that.

Here’s the thing… Tesla has a PE of over 100 compared to the SPX average of about 26 and about 15 or so for the other automakers. The absurd valuation put on Tesla is the “The Musk Factor”. If Tesla was valued on fundamentals without the Musk Factor, it would have a PE of maybe 30 at most resulting in it’s investors loosing about ¾ of their investment.

Presently, despite Musk’s activities that might be hurting sales, the PE hasn’t been hurt too much as Musk’s combination of his perceived genius and supposed futuristic vision values Tesla as a successful tech company and not the mediocre car company it is, in fact, Tesla as a car company is tiny compared to its competitors.

Also, Musk’s proximity to the President is seen by the investors as positive rather than negative.

At this point, Musk’s job at Tesla is secured. Maintaining the 100+ valuation multiple is more important to the investors than maintaining sales of the car.

My personal view is that Musk’s maneuvers into government affairs are aimed to benefit SpaxeX more than Tesla but I assume that Tesla’s investors know more than me. One thing that can be said for sure is that Musk very well knows what he is doing, and no matter what people here on Qoura think, Musk is working within a plan of his making, and so far, all his plans have succeeded in achieving the objective Musk wants. Musk moves fast and breaks things, but at the end of it all, his plans work no matter how chaotic they seem to the mere mortal…. Musk always turns chaos into the order that achieves the objective.

The Rev Dodgson said:

From Quora (Alternative universe edition, by the look of it):

Will Tesla shareholders move to fire Musk?
No. If the 3 top holders of Tesla shares got together, they could pressure the board to fire Musk, and if they refuse, this group of major shareholders could fire the board and appoint a new board that would, but they won’t do that.

Here’s the thing… Tesla has a PE of over 100 compared to the SPX average of about 26 and about 15 or so for the other automakers. The absurd valuation put on Tesla is the “The Musk Factor”. If Tesla was valued on fundamentals without the Musk Factor, it would have a PE of maybe 30 at most resulting in it’s investors loosing about ¾ of their investment.

Presently, despite Musk’s activities that might be hurting sales, the PE hasn’t been hurt too much as Musk’s combination of his perceived genius and supposed futuristic vision values Tesla as a successful tech company and not the mediocre car company it is, in fact, Tesla as a car company is tiny compared to its competitors.

Also, Musk’s proximity to the President is seen by the investors as positive rather than negative.

At this point, Musk’s job at Tesla is secured. Maintaining the 100+ valuation multiple is more important to the investors than maintaining sales of the car.

My personal view is that Musk’s maneuvers into government affairs are aimed to benefit SpaxeX more than Tesla but I assume that Tesla’s investors know more than me. One thing that can be said for sure is that Musk very well knows what he is doing, and no matter what people here on Qoura think, Musk is working within a plan of his making, and so far, all his plans have succeeded in achieving the objective Musk wants. Musk moves fast and breaks things, but at the end of it all, his plans work no matter how chaotic they seem to the mere mortal…. Musk always turns chaos into the order that achieves the objective.

I think Musk Factor was the first deodorant I ever bought.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

From Quora (Alternative universe edition, by the look of it):

Will Tesla shareholders move to fire Musk?
No. If the 3 top holders of Tesla shares got together, they could pressure the board to fire Musk, and if they refuse, this group of major shareholders could fire the board and appoint a new board that would, but they won’t do that.

Here’s the thing… Tesla has a PE of over 100 compared to the SPX average of about 26 and about 15 or so for the other automakers. The absurd valuation put on Tesla is the “The Musk Factor”. If Tesla was valued on fundamentals without the Musk Factor, it would have a PE of maybe 30 at most resulting in it’s investors loosing about ¾ of their investment.

Presently, despite Musk’s activities that might be hurting sales, the PE hasn’t been hurt too much as Musk’s combination of his perceived genius and supposed futuristic vision values Tesla as a successful tech company and not the mediocre car company it is, in fact, Tesla as a car company is tiny compared to its competitors.

Also, Musk’s proximity to the President is seen by the investors as positive rather than negative.

At this point, Musk’s job at Tesla is secured. Maintaining the 100+ valuation multiple is more important to the investors than maintaining sales of the car.

My personal view is that Musk’s maneuvers into government affairs are aimed to benefit SpaxeX more than Tesla but I assume that Tesla’s investors know more than me. One thing that can be said for sure is that Musk very well knows what he is doing, and no matter what people here on Qoura think, Musk is working within a plan of his making, and so far, all his plans have succeeded in achieving the objective Musk wants. Musk moves fast and breaks things, but at the end of it all, his plans work no matter how chaotic they seem to the mere mortal…. Musk always turns chaos into the order that achieves the objective.

I think Musk Factor was the first deodorant I ever bought.

I think the main ingredient comes from the same place too.

Sales of Tesla electric vehicles have slumped 13 per cent in the first quarter of 2025, the company’s worst quarterly result since 2022.

SCIENCE said:

Sales of Tesla electric vehicles have slumped 13 per cent in the first quarter of 2025, the company’s worst quarterly result since 2022.

This is why I’m cynical that the announcement of Musk stepping back from DOGE is a ruse to lift stock prices in the short term.

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

Sales of Tesla electric vehicles have slumped 13 per cent in the first quarter of 2025, the company’s worst quarterly result since 2022.

This is why I’m cynical that the announcement of Musk stepping back from DOGE is a ruse to lift stock prices in the short term.

He’ll still be a crypto-Nazi dickhead.

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

Sales of Tesla electric vehicles have slumped 13 per cent in the first quarter of 2025, the company’s worst quarterly result since 2022.

This is why I’m cynical that the announcement of Musk stepping back from DOGE is a ruse to lift stock prices in the short term.

He’ll still be a crypto-Nazi dickhead.

He can only keep the DOGE job a certain number of days.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

This is why I’m cynical that the announcement of Musk stepping back from DOGE is a ruse to lift stock prices in the short term.

He’ll still be a crypto-Nazi dickhead.

He can only keep the DOGE job a certain number of days.

most people too, about 40000 days

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

He’ll still be a crypto-Nazi dickhead.

He can only keep the DOGE job a certain number of days.

most people too, about 40000 days

Elon Musk can work only 130 days in his current role as DOGE head; what will he do after that?

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

Sales of Tesla electric vehicles have slumped 13 per cent in the first quarter of 2025, the company’s worst quarterly result since 2022.

This is why I’m cynical that the announcement of Musk stepping back from DOGE is a ruse to lift stock prices in the short term.

He’ll still be a crypto-Nazi dickhead.

AND HE’S UNPLUGGED FROM THE MATRIX!!!

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

This is why I’m cynical that the announcement of Musk stepping back from DOGE is a ruse to lift stock prices in the short term.

He’ll still be a crypto-Nazi dickhead.

AND HE’S UNPLUGGED !!!

except for his hairline.

White House says Elon Musk will stay until DOGE work complete following reports of leaving.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/white-house-says-elon-musk-will-stay-until-doge-work-complete-following-reports-of-leaving/ar-AA1Cb82c?ocid=BingNewsSerp

SCIENCE said:

Funny thing…
That local woman that I know, the one who loves trump, she has gone from ferociously hating electric vehicles and despising green energy etc, to posting memes on Facebook about how intelligent Musk is and of course you want him doing a deep audit on the country’s finances!

She’s an evangelical, had an abusive father. He believed in conspiracies to the point of recording conversations he had with management when he was at work. He was a head teacher at the local “teaching factory” college, mr kii worked with him at one point. I saw the room where he kept these recordings. Shelves and shelves of them.

It’s been interesting watching her turn from pure hatred of electric vehicles to worshiping fElon Musk’s intelligence.

kii said:

SCIENCE said:

Funny thing…
That local woman that I know, the one who loves trump, she has gone from ferociously hating electric vehicles and despising green energy etc, to posting memes on Facebook about how intelligent Musk is and of course you want him doing a deep audit on the country’s finances!

She’s an evangelical, had an abusive father. He believed in conspiracies to the point of recording conversations he had with management when he was at work. He was a head teacher at the local “teaching factory” college, mr kii worked with him at one point. I saw the room where he kept these recordings. Shelves and shelves of them.

It’s been interesting watching her turn from pure hatred of electric vehicles to worshiping fElon Musk’s intelligence.

did the love of fascists translate into a new love of electric vehicles though

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

SCIENCE said:

Funny thing…
That local woman that I know, the one who loves trump, she has gone from ferociously hating electric vehicles and despising green energy etc, to posting memes on Facebook about how intelligent Musk is and of course you want him doing a deep audit on the country’s finances!

She’s an evangelical, had an abusive father. He believed in conspiracies to the point of recording conversations he had with management when he was at work. He was a head teacher at the local “teaching factory” college, mr kii worked with him at one point. I saw the room where he kept these recordings. Shelves and shelves of them.

It’s been interesting watching her turn from pure hatred of electric vehicles to worshiping fElon Musk’s intelligence.

did the love of fascists translate into a new love of electric vehicles though

and speaking of criminals and fascists

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

SCIENCE said:

Funny thing…
That local woman that I know, the one who loves trump, she has gone from ferociously hating electric vehicles and despising green energy etc, to posting memes on Facebook about how intelligent Musk is and of course you want him doing a deep audit on the country’s finances!

She’s an evangelical, had an abusive father. He believed in conspiracies to the point of recording conversations he had with management when he was at work. He was a head teacher at the local “teaching factory” college, mr kii worked with him at one point. I saw the room where he kept these recordings. Shelves and shelves of them.

It’s been interesting watching her turn from pure hatred of electric vehicles to worshiping fElon Musk’s intelligence.

did the love of fascists translate into a new love of electric vehicles though

It’s difficult to assess from me sneaking peeks at her Facebook page. I’ve cut ties with her since the incident with her latest husband trying to shoot her and her drawing a pistol from her dressing gown pocket and her telling me that they were coming to visit us at home and me saying “NO FUCKING WAY!!!”

captain_spalding said:

how do yous explain this thread then

I’ve just received this friend request …

Should I accept it?

AussieDJ said:

I’ve just received this friend request …

Should I accept it?

at least you know who the mutual idiot is…

AussieDJ said:

I’ve just received this friend request …

Should I accept it?

I have also received it, or one like it, a while ago.

kii said:

AussieDJ said:

I’ve just received this friend request …

Should I accept it?

I have also received it, or one like it, a while ago.

And I hope that you, like I, will treat it with the contempt that it deserves.

AussieDJ said:

kii said:

AussieDJ said:

I’ve just received this friend request …

Should I accept it?

I have also received it, or one like it, a while ago.

And I hope that you, like I, will treat it with the contempt that it deserves.

Blocked them, laughed and felt pity for such obvious bullshittery.