Date: 3/04/2024 19:02:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2141665
Subject: Apology to sarahs mum

My response to your posting of a video link the other day (which was none of my business anyway) was indeed needlessly presumptuous and judgemental, and I can understand why you found it patronising and belittling. Please accept my apology.

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Date: 6/04/2024 14:48:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2142619
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

*adds to the patronising and belittling.

I had but posted a link. But it was made clear to me that I have no rights to an opinion and that my opinion although unstated was wrong. I was shut down before I started. And here I am a few days later having a conversation with self.

I was also accused of having a poor stance on feminism. That’s hard.

Supposedly I am uninformed, have not done reading of the right material, and so should shut up on this topic. In reality I only know two people who have transitioned. Both lived their lives as female until in early adulthood. I like these people. I like who they have become. I would not feel scared by them in a public toilet. My opinion for very many years has been that I could not care about people’s sexuality as long as it is not predatory and/or violent.

In regard to Rowling. It seems she has now entered Trumpian territory and only tweets on this topic. Anti SNP, darling of FOX news and other haters. I’ll reserve my rights to not have her on my list of feminist role models.

Meanwhile youtube has offered me…

How is JK Rowling Transphobic? Trans Guy Responds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzlI__xX_74

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:00:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2142621
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

You’re perfectly entitled to your opinion on this and any other topic sarahs mum, and I have acknowledged that I was presumptuous and unjustifiably dismissive etc. – you are quite right about my reprehensible attitude and conduct in regard to my response to you posting that link.

But as far as this particular issue is concerned I have personally changed my mind – I no longer think it necessary to hold any opinion on transgender matters, women’s rights and other political-type topics, social issues etc., and will politely withdraw from all such discussions.

I will however continue to post on more abstract philosophical topics, just for the mental exercise :)

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:11:48
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2142624
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

sarahs mum said:

*adds to the patronising and belittling.

I had but posted a link. But it was made clear to me that I have no rights to an opinion and that my opinion although unstated was wrong. I was shut down before I started. And here I am a few days later having a conversation with self.

I was also accused of having a poor stance on feminism. That’s hard.

Supposedly I am uninformed, have not done reading of the right material, and so should shut up on this topic. In reality I only know two people who have transitioned. Both lived their lives as female until in early adulthood. I like these people. I like who they have become. I would not feel scared by them in a public toilet. My opinion for very many years has been that I could not care about people’s sexuality as long as it is not predatory and/or violent.

In regard to Rowling. It seems she has now entered Trumpian territory and only tweets on this topic. Anti SNP, darling of FOX news and other haters. I’ll reserve my rights to not have her on my list of feminist role models.

Meanwhile youtube has offered me…

How is JK Rowling Transphobic? Trans Guy Responds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzlI__xX_74

yes, and then being asked to apologise…

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:27:23
From: dv
ID: 2142626
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

Fun fact, sarahs mum is one of the best people ever, is a treat and a dear, and is tied for my Favourite Holiday Forumer with Michael V.

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:34:15
From: kii
ID: 2142628
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

dv said:


Fun fact, sarahs mum is one of the best people ever, is a treat and a dear, and is tied for my Favourite Holiday Forumer with Michael V.

Yes, sm is also intelligent and well read on a wide range of subjects.
She was good company for me when I was stuck in a hospital waiting room a few years back.

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:34:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2142629
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

dv said:


Fun fact, sarahs mum is one of the best people ever, is a treat and a dear, and is tied for my Favourite Holiday Forumer with Michael V.

I know where to go should I ever need a reference again. :)

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:35:29
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2142630
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

kii said:


dv said:

Fun fact, sarahs mum is one of the best people ever, is a treat and a dear, and is tied for my Favourite Holiday Forumer with Michael V.

Yes, sm is also intelligent and well read on a wide range of subjects.
She was good company for me when I was stuck in a hospital waiting room a few years back.

I’m still good company.

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:36:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2142631
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

dv said:


Fun fact, sarahs mum is one of the best people ever, is a treat and a dear, and is tied for my Favourite Holiday Forumer with Michael V.

+1

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:37:04
From: kii
ID: 2142632
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

(Don’t forget that Arts called me “amazingly normal and nice” after our first pudd.)

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:42:14
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2142637
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

kii said:


(Don’t forget that Arts called me “amazingly normal and nice” after our first pudd.)

probably drunk.

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:43:53
From: kii
ID: 2142638
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

sarahs mum said:


kii said:

dv said:

Fun fact, sarahs mum is one of the best people ever, is a treat and a dear, and is tied for my Favourite Holiday Forumer with Michael V.

Yes, sm is also intelligent and well read on a wide range of subjects.
She was good company for me when I was stuck in a hospital waiting room a few years back.

I’m still good company.

Whilst I didn’t “ground “ myself with a walking stick today, I kept you in my thoughts. That idea grounded me. It helped.

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:47:19
From: dv
ID: 2142644
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

kii said:


sarahs mum said:

kii said:

Yes, sm is also intelligent and well read on a wide range of subjects.
She was good company for me when I was stuck in a hospital waiting room a few years back.

I’m still good company.

Whilst I didn’t “ground “ myself with a walking stick today, I kept you in my thoughts. That idea grounded me. It helped.

I use an earthing strap unless I feel a good zap would jolt me from complacency.

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:53:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 2142649
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

dv said:


Fun fact, sarahs mum is one of the best people ever, is a treat and a dear, and is tied for my Favourite Holiday Forumer with Michael V.

“thumbsup”

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:54:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 2142650
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

sarahs mum said:


kii said:

dv said:

Fun fact, sarahs mum is one of the best people ever, is a treat and a dear, and is tied for my Favourite Holiday Forumer with Michael V.

Yes, sm is also intelligent and well read on a wide range of subjects.
She was good company for me when I was stuck in a hospital waiting room a few years back.

I’m still good company.

Indeed.

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Date: 6/04/2024 15:59:30
From: Michael V
ID: 2142654
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

dv said:


Fun fact, sarahs mum is one of the best people ever, is a treat and a dear, and is tied for my Favourite Holiday Forumer with Michael V.

Awww.

Thanks for that.

:)

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Date: 6/04/2024 16:00:31
From: party_pants
ID: 2142657
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

dv said:


Fun fact, sarahs mum is one of the best people ever, is a treat and a dear, and is tied for my Favourite Holiday Forumer with Michael V.

I try not to have favourites.

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Date: 6/04/2024 16:04:12
From: dv
ID: 2142660
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

party_pants said:


dv said:

Fun fact, sarahs mum is one of the best people ever, is a treat and a dear, and is tied for my Favourite Holiday Forumer with Michael V.

I try not to have favourites.

I think most people have flaws or just react negatively to adverse stimuli but I just never see sm or MV going outside the lines.

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Date: 6/04/2024 16:05:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 2142662
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

party_pants said:

I try not to have favourites.

My children are my favourites of all the children in the world.

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Date: 6/04/2024 16:07:01
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2142666
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

it was when i started doing post grad. one of the profs suggested I get a walking stick. he felt that I would feel more confident and grounded with one. I could wave it around to accentuate my conversation, point at art, and to declare how much room I wanted. I could put it between my legs when sitting and lean into it with an engaged thoughtfulness. He thought others would take me more seriously. And Kii and I have reached the age when we can have a stick and it isn’t odd.

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Date: 6/04/2024 16:08:06
From: Tamb
ID: 2142668
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

dv said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

Fun fact, sarahs mum is one of the best people ever, is a treat and a dear, and is tied for my Favourite Holiday Forumer with Michael V.

I try not to have favourites.

I think most people have flaws or just react negatively to adverse stimuli but I just never see sm or MV going outside the lines.


I try to be neutral in the forum’s occasional spats but have managed to get one of us upset.
To that person I am sorry, it wasn’t intentional.

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Date: 6/04/2024 16:47:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2142681
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

Don’t worry we hate all of yous.

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Date: 6/04/2024 16:53:25
From: Tamb
ID: 2142687
Subject: re: Apology to sarahs mum

SCIENCE said:

Don’t worry we hate all of yous.


Nice to see you don’t discriminate.

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