Date: 5/05/2024 15:30:18
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2151363
Subject: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/scientists-warn-that-raw-necrotic-wounds-on-living-fish-are-a-symptom-of-sick-waterways/ar-BB1lPXNU?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=e76477b219fd4931bde7354f1d2d6f6f&ei=40

Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Recreational fishers are alarmed about reeling in fish with red raw ulcers on their sides in the Noosa and Maroochy rivers.

“There are so many sick fish in the Maroochy River right now,” Wade Beasley said.

“We are picking up bream and flathead alive out of the water with our bare hands with sores on them.”

Tony Richings said he caught and released an unsightly bream in the Maroochy River late in April, with a nasty ulcer it was unlikely to have survived.

Further north, Steve Ozoux shared a picture of an infected flathead to the Sunshine Coast Fishing Facebook Page.

“Caught this poor bugger Noosa River over the weekend, released him but it was in bad shape,” Mr Ozoux told the ABC.

Flesh destroying fungus
Aquatic animal health specialist Ben Diggles said the fish were infected with red spot disease or epizootic ulcerative syndrome (EUS), caused by the exotic necrotic fungus, Aphanomyces invadans.
Dr Diggles said when poor water quality compromised the animal’s immunity, the invasive fungus attacked one scale, then spread, causing patches of tissue to die.

“They can recover from smaller lesions but once the lesions get beyond a certain size the fish becomes very compromised,” Dr Diggles said.

“Its immune system can’t cope and its osmoregulation, its water balance, is all thrown out of whack and unfortunately, many of them die.”

Dr Diggles filmed a helpless bream floating on the surface of the Brisbane River late last year.

It was suffering from red spot disease and a bacterial lesion on its head and gills called saddleback syndrome.

Exotic invader
Potentially introduced to Australia on ornamental fish about 50 years ago, red spot disease has been reported in freshwater catchments and estuaries in New South Wales, Queensland, Western Australia, South Australia, Victoria, and the Northern Territory, as well as inland, in the Murray Darling system.

It has impacted on wild fish and aquaculture farms around the world, with more than 100 susceptible estuarine and freshwater fish species in Australia.

Acidic water
Dr Diggles said red spot disease was particularly bad after heavy flushing rains in coastal plains with underlying layers of acid sulfate soils that released sulphuric acid into waterways when they were exposed to oxygen by clearing, draining, and development.

He explained that the sulphuric acid erodes the mucus-secreting cells in the epidermis, or outer skin of fish, leaving them more vulnerable to the fungus.

Dr Diggles said sediment, suburban, and agricultural chemical run-off had significant impacts on water quality.

“The rivers end up just being drains and the fish tell us what the ramifications of that are if you ignore those things,” Dr Diggles said.

“The fish don’t lie, fish never lie, you just need to understand what they’re trying to tell you.”

Don’t eat them
Although red spot disease is not deadly to humans, people are being warned not to eat any fish that have been severely infected.

“The advice with sick aquatic animals is not to eat them because they may have a variety of bacterial or other microbial pathogens in them,” Dr Diggles said.

Report red spot
Australia’s only fishing conservation charity, OzFish, is asking people to help it better map red spot disease by reporting when and where they find infected fish and uploading photos, using an online form.

Water temperatures of 18-22 degrees Celsius favour the fungus, which can survive for at least 19 days without a host and spread with fish including bream, which Future Fisheries Veterinary Service director Matt Landos said migrated hundreds of kilometres each year.

From pristine to polluted
Dr Landos advises OzFish and he recently released an international report for IPEN, a network of more than 600 non-governmental organisations working in more than 120 countries to reduce and eliminate harm to human health and the environment from toxic chemicals.

Dr Landos said while fisheries management often focused on over-fishing as the main cause of declines in productivity, the effects of degrading water quality and habitat were not given the same consideration.

“This struck me as being inconsistent with the evidence of disease expression and mortality incidents which had nothing to do with fishing activities,” Dr Landos said.

Dr Landos said environmental pressures included run-off from stormwater, wastewater from sewage treatment plants, beef, dairy, cattle grazing, sugar cane production, irrigated cropping, intensive horticulture, agricultural fertilisers, floodgates, dams, weirs, loss of vegetation, and increased erosion and sediment.

He commended Sunshine Coast Regional Council for its Blue Heart initiative, encompassing an area of more than 5,000 hectares on a natural flood-plain including the council’s Coolum Creek environment reserve network, the state-owned Coolum Creek conservation park, and Unitywater’s Yandina Creek wetland.

Blue Heart project
The council has purchased properties and reopened tidal floodgates that once drained land for cane production to gradually transition to an estuarine wetland habitat.

In a statement, a council spokesperson said that, unlike freshwater, tidal waters could act as a natural treatment for acid sulfate soils.

“Once acid sulfate soils are exposed, tidal exchanges will continue to neutralise the acidity of the soil; by contrast, excess freshwater runoff associated with acid sulfate soils can lead to water quality problems in waterways,” the spokesperson said.

Wetland restoration
Dr Landos said seawater contained little oxygen to fuel acid sulfate soil oxidation and carried in calcium carbonate minerals secreted by marine organisms which “stops the further creation of acid”.

“These wetlands in their original format before we started farming were not producing acid, back in time these were not areas that generated toxic plumes of water,” Dr Landos said.

“Quite the opposite, they were the most productive habitats in our estuaries, they generated hundreds, and in many cases, thousands of tonnes of seafood because they were the nursery areas where the base of the food web was created and where baby fish and crustaceans would go.”

Farmers affected
But the removal of floodgates has been met with increasing concern from surrounding farmers and residents who said their land was being devalued by the rising water table and increased salinity, with no compensation.

“I think we do need a scheme to support farmers in the transition, it’s not something that we should expect of them just to give it up and hand it over, that’s not appropriate,” Dr Landos said.

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Date: 5/05/2024 16:37:53
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151364
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

What are the steps to improve sick waterways?

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Date: 5/05/2024 16:42:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2151367
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Tau.Neutrino said:

What are the steps to improve sick waterways?

Cease polluting them.

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Date: 5/05/2024 16:42:33
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151368
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Tau.Neutrino said:


What are the steps to improve sick waterways?

The environment needs all the help it can get.

Waterways are part of the environment.

All councils should have the ability and knowledge to fix waterways with federal funding.

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Date: 5/05/2024 17:09:00
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2151379
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

What are the steps to improve sick waterways?

Cease polluting them.

restore the balance of micro-organisms , ph levels , ensure water plants are what should be there…some plants are known to aid in restoring the balance

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Date: 5/05/2024 17:26:50
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151392
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

monkey skipper said:


SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

What are the steps to improve sick waterways?

Cease polluting them.

restore the balance of micro-organisms , ph levels , ensure water plants are what should be there…some plants are known to aid in restoring the balance

That could be jobs for people and drones.

Maintaining waterways could be helped by 5G solar powered monitor/sensors.

A whole waterway could have 5G where each monitoring station sends its signal through all the other 5g monitors

A small solar panel on a pole, where each pole is spread out enough to recieve and transmit signals.

Using tech similar to internet of things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_things

Where anyone can log in on their phones to see the state of their local waterways.

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Date: 5/05/2024 17:36:21
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151396
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

SCIENCE said:

Cease polluting them.

restore the balance of micro-organisms , ph levels , ensure water plants are what should be there…some plants are known to aid in restoring the balance

That could be jobs for people and drones.

Maintaining waterways could be helped by 5G solar powered monitor/sensors.

A whole waterway could have 5G where each monitoring station sends its signal through all the other 5g monitors

A small solar panel on a pole, where each pole is spread out enough to recieve and transmit signals.

Using tech similar to internet of things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_things

Where anyone can log in on their phones to see the state of their local waterways.

Growing waterplants could be part of that.

Farming waterplants.
Breeding fish.
Farming micro-organisms.

Rolling out all the waterway monitors.

Jobs for people.

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Date: 5/05/2024 17:39:40
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2151398
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

restore the balance of micro-organisms , ph levels , ensure water plants are what should be there…some plants are known to aid in restoring the balance

That could be jobs for people and drones.

Maintaining waterways could be helped by 5G solar powered monitor/sensors.

A whole waterway could have 5G where each monitoring station sends its signal through all the other 5g monitors

A small solar panel on a pole, where each pole is spread out enough to recieve and transmit signals.

Using tech similar to internet of things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_things

Where anyone can log in on their phones to see the state of their local waterways.

Growing waterplants could be part of that.

Farming waterplants.
Breeding fish.
Farming micro-organisms.

Rolling out all the waterway monitors.

Jobs for people.

we can only imagine the pain and suffering that the river fish are experiencing

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Date: 5/05/2024 17:41:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151399
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

restore the balance of micro-organisms , ph levels , ensure water plants are what should be there…some plants are known to aid in restoring the balance

That could be jobs for people and drones.

Maintaining waterways could be helped by 5G solar powered monitor/sensors.

A whole waterway could have 5G where each monitoring station sends its signal through all the other 5g monitors

A small solar panel on a pole, where each pole is spread out enough to recieve and transmit signals.

Using tech similar to internet of things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_things

Where anyone can log in on their phones to see the state of their local waterways.

Growing waterplants could be part of that.

Farming waterplants.
Breeding fish.
Farming micro-organisms.

Rolling out all the waterway monitors.

Jobs for people.

Solar powered pumps to oxygenate waterways.

More jobs for people.

A federal environmental program.

It could start small and then scale up.

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Date: 5/05/2024 17:43:27
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151400
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

That could be jobs for people and drones.

Maintaining waterways could be helped by 5G solar powered monitor/sensors.

A whole waterway could have 5G where each monitoring station sends its signal through all the other 5g monitors

A small solar panel on a pole, where each pole is spread out enough to recieve and transmit signals.

Using tech similar to internet of things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_things

Where anyone can log in on their phones to see the state of their local waterways.

Growing waterplants could be part of that.

Farming waterplants.
Breeding fish.
Farming micro-organisms.

Rolling out all the waterway monitors.

Jobs for people.

we can only imagine the pain and suffering that the river fish are experiencing

They need help.

Humans have messed up their lives.

We need to do more.

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Date: 5/05/2024 18:00:22
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2151402
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

That could be jobs for people and drones.

Maintaining waterways could be helped by 5G solar powered monitor/sensors.

A whole waterway could have 5G where each monitoring station sends its signal through all the other 5g monitors

A small solar panel on a pole, where each pole is spread out enough to recieve and transmit signals.

Using tech similar to internet of things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_things

Where anyone can log in on their phones to see the state of their local waterways.

Growing waterplants could be part of that.

Farming waterplants.
Breeding fish.
Farming micro-organisms.

Rolling out all the waterway monitors.

Jobs for people.

Solar powered pumps to oxygenate waterways.

More jobs for people.

A federal environmental program.

It could start small and then scale up.

Potentially adding minerals to the water where required and safe to do do , spreading calcium in the forms of calcite or calcium carbonate to neutralise acidity if that is part of the reason. Adding micro-organisms that eat harmful viruses and batcterias that should and can remain in the waterway is probably an immediate response (I imagine). Breeding fishes that are under threat in fisheries to re-introduce to repopulate the waterways once being broad back to healthy levels. Look at natural filter process such and mussels and oysters who do the best job of filtering water.

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Date: 5/05/2024 18:01:18
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151403
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Such a system would probably be better funded by Federal, State, and Local governments with corporate and private funding.

We could fine tune the whole rehabilitation waterway program then sell it as a package to other countries.

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Date: 5/05/2024 18:04:19
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2151404
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

edits-

Potentially adding minerals to the water where required and safe to do so. Spreading calcium in the forms of calcite or calcium carbonate to neutralize acidity if that is part of the reason and deemed safe to do so.

Pouring in micro-organisms that eat harmful viruses and bacteria that should and can remain in the waterway is probably an immediate response (I imagine). Breeding fishes that are under threat in fisheries to re-introduce to repopulate the waterways once the waterways have been brought back to healthy levels.

Look at natural filter processes such as mussels and oysters who do the best job of filtering water.

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Date: 5/05/2024 18:04:20
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2151405
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

edits-

Potentially adding minerals to the water where required and safe to do so. Spreading calcium in the forms of calcite or calcium carbonate to neutralize acidity if that is part of the reason and deemed safe to do so.

Pouring in micro-organisms that eat harmful viruses and bacteria that should and can remain in the waterway is probably an immediate response (I imagine). Breeding fishes that are under threat in fisheries to re-introduce to repopulate the waterways once the waterways have been brought back to healthy levels.

Look at natural filter processes such as mussels and oysters who do the best job of filtering water.

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Date: 5/05/2024 18:04:59
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151406
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Growing waterplants could be part of that.

Farming waterplants.
Breeding fish.
Farming micro-organisms.

Rolling out all the waterway monitors.

Jobs for people.

Solar powered pumps to oxygenate waterways.

More jobs for people.

A federal environmental program.

It could start small and then scale up.

Potentially adding minerals to the water where required and safe to do do , spreading calcium in the forms of calcite or calcium carbonate to neutralise acidity if that is part of the reason. Adding micro-organisms that eat harmful viruses and batcterias that should and can remain in the waterway is probably an immediate response (I imagine). Breeding fishes that are under threat in fisheries to re-introduce to repopulate the waterways once being broad back to healthy levels. Look at natural filter process such and mussels and oysters who do the best job of filtering water.


And
TAFE courses to train people. Who can then pass on their training to locals.

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Date: 5/05/2024 18:06:38
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2151407
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Tau.Neutrino said:


Such a system would probably be better funded by Federal, State, and Local governments with corporate and private funding.

We could fine tune the whole rehabilitation waterway program then sell it as a package to other countries.

Getting those whose livelihoods rely on cleaning up the water , will build traction. Actually , I posted a link on my FB or perhaps SSSF FB about floating eco system that cleaned up a dying river in the US. I might try and find that youtube link again

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Date: 5/05/2024 18:08:33
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151408
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Solar powered pumps to oxygenate waterways.

More jobs for people.

A federal environmental program.

It could start small and then scale up.

Potentially adding minerals to the water where required and safe to do do , spreading calcium in the forms of calcite or calcium carbonate to neutralise acidity if that is part of the reason. Adding micro-organisms that eat harmful viruses and batcterias that should and can remain in the waterway is probably an immediate response (I imagine). Breeding fishes that are under threat in fisheries to re-introduce to repopulate the waterways once being broad back to healthy levels. Look at natural filter process such and mussels and oysters who do the best job of filtering water.


And
TAFE courses to train people. Who can then pass on their training to locals.


More park rangers in this area would be great to see.
I know they do some environmental work.

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Date: 5/05/2024 18:14:49
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2151409
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

I don’t I can post the link here: But basically, floating artificial wetlands are cleaning the water and the artificial habitat is providing opportunities for birds and aquatic life to return to the Chicago River in the US which was a literal dumping ground for years upon years

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Date: 5/05/2024 18:27:57
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151415
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

monkey skipper said:


I don’t I can post the link here: But basically, floating artificial wetlands are cleaning the water and the artificial habitat is providing opportunities for birds and aquatic life to return to the Chicago River in the US which was a literal dumping ground for years upon years

That sounds great. That could easily be implemented worldwide.

There must be lots of environmental programs going on around the world.

We need more environmental scientists as well.

I’m not such a person, I have some knowledge of systems, but I’m not an expert in that area either.

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Date: 5/05/2024 18:42:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151417
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Jobs to design and manufacture solar powered waterway monitors.

Oxygenation systems could be designed into that as well.

Jobs to roll-out and install each monitoring station.

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Date: 5/05/2024 18:55:36
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151421
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Tau.Neutrino said:


Jobs to design and manufacture solar powered waterway monitors.

Oxygenation systems could be designed into that as well.

Jobs to roll-out and install each monitoring station.

Each monitoring station would be solar powered, have 5G capabilities, have chemical sensors, an oxygenation system, a nutrient delivery system.

Anyone can log in and see the state of the whole waterway and what the local conditions are on their phones.

Park rangers, locals and drones could top up monitoring stations.

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Date: 5/05/2024 19:17:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151430
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Jobs to design and manufacture solar powered waterway monitors.

Oxygenation systems could be designed into that as well.

Jobs to roll-out and install each monitoring station.

Each monitoring station would be solar powered, have 5G capabilities, have chemical sensors, an oxygenation system, a nutrient delivery system.

Anyone can log in and see the state of the whole waterway and what the local conditions are on their phones.

Park rangers, locals and drones could top up monitoring stations.

As every area is different, nutrients would be tailored to those different areas.

It would be a great program if it got going.

Or something like it.

There’s probably people working on such things as I type.

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Date: 5/05/2024 19:42:23
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151449
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Each monitoring station would be

Solar powered,
Have 5G capabilities,
have chemical sensors,
an oxygenation system,
a nutrient delivery system.
A flitration alarm system

Anyone can log in and see the state of the whole waterway and what the local conditions are on their phones.

Park rangers, locals and drones could top up monitoring stations. Send in portable filtration, monitor remote waterways be satellite.

And some planning.

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Date: 5/05/2024 20:44:37
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151468
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

Tau.Neutrino said:


Each monitoring station would be

Solar powered,
Have 5G capabilities,
have chemical sensors,
an oxygenation system,
a nutrient delivery system.
A flitration alarm system

Anyone can log in and see the state of the whole waterway and what the local conditions are on their phones.

Park rangers, locals and drones could top up monitoring stations. Send in portable filtration, monitor remote waterways be satellite.

And some planning.

Also monitor

Number of fish
Types of fish
Other biodiversity
Quality of water
Oxygen and other levels
Contaminates
Chemicals
Heavy metals
Natural diseases
Algal Blooms
Air quality

and more…

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Date: 6/05/2024 01:03:40
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2151494
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

The information about local waterways that could be displayed by smartphone apps could be quite extensive.

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Date: 6/05/2024 02:35:09
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2151500
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

This scientist is obviously angling for more research funding.

He has presented no evidence whatever that sick waterways are to blame.

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Date: 6/05/2024 05:35:33
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2151503
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

mollwollfumble said:


This scientist is obviously angling for more research funding.

He has presented no evidence whatever that sick waterways are to blame.

I think it odd that water quality would not play a role for the obvious reasons. By water quality that could be oxygen levels but fish go belly up pretty quickly when water oxygen saturations for too low. Algae blooms a visually noticable , this is not being observed or mentioned on this occasion.

How could it not be water quality for necrotic ulceration of the fish?

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Date: 6/05/2024 05:45:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 2151506
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

monkey skipper said:


mollwollfumble said:

This scientist is obviously angling for more research funding.

He has presented no evidence whatever that sick waterways are to blame.

I think it odd that water quality would not play a role for the obvious reasons. By water quality that could be oxygen levels but fish go belly up pretty quickly when water oxygen saturations for too low. Algae blooms a visually noticable , this is not being observed or mentioned on this occasion.

How could it not be water quality for necrotic ulceration of the fish?

Obviously the writer of the paper hasn’t convinced you with an explanation.

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Date: 6/05/2024 05:55:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 2151510
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

What are the steps to improve sick waterways?

Cease polluting them.

This.

From the article.

Dr Diggles said when poor water quality compromised the animal’s immunity, the invasive fungus attacked one scale, then spread, causing patches of tissue to die.

“They can recover from smaller lesions but once the lesions get beyond a certain size the fish becomes very compromised,” Dr Diggles said.

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Date: 6/05/2024 05:56:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 2151512
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

roughbarked said:


monkey skipper said:

mollwollfumble said:

This scientist is obviously angling for more research funding.

He has presented no evidence whatever that sick waterways are to blame.

I think it odd that water quality would not play a role for the obvious reasons. By water quality that could be oxygen levels but fish go belly up pretty quickly when water oxygen saturations for too low. Algae blooms a visually noticable , this is not being observed or mentioned on this occasion.

How could it not be water quality for necrotic ulceration of the fish?

Obviously the writer of the paper hasn’t convinced you with an explanation.

Sorry, I meant YOU to mean Mollwoll.

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Date: 6/05/2024 05:58:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2151513
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

What are the steps to improve sick waterways?

Cease polluting them.

This.

From the article.

Dr Diggles said when poor water quality compromised the animal’s immunity, the invasive fungus attacked one scale, then spread, causing patches of tissue to die.

“They can recover from smaller lesions but once the lesions get beyond a certain size the fish becomes very compromised,” Dr Diggles said.

and the vegans do have a point in that it is largely cattle that pollute rivers.

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Date: 6/05/2024 08:03:03
From: Ian
ID: 2151556
Subject: re: Scientists warn that raw necrotic wounds on living fish are a symptom of sick waterways

mollwollfumble said:


This scientist is obviously angling for more research funding.

He has presented no evidence whatever that sick waterways are to blame.

Very good :)

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