Date: 4/06/2024 19:45:53
From: buffy
ID: 2161945
Subject: Ozempic babies

I didn’t see this the other day in the ABC news.

Link

>>“Oops babies”, they’re called. The unplanned pregnancies that seem to be catching hundreds of women by surprise, that occur after they take Ozempic — and other drugs like it — to curb their appetites and lose weight.<<

Seems to be partly because if you are obese getting pregnant can be more difficult, so losing weight helps sort this out. Also possibly Ozempic interferes with The Pill. Distinct lack of information, really.

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Date: 4/06/2024 20:05:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2161949
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

So this is good news, not enough information currently, so people should BUY BUY BUY more semaglutide and have more babies and generate more information¡

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:18:24
From: dv
ID: 2162214
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ozempic-babies-unplanned-pregnancies

This piece is a bit more informative. The suggestion is that it interferes with contraceptive meds, and also raises fertility generally, including among those who’ve previously been considered postmenopausal or otherwise infertile.

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:23:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 2162215
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

dv said:


https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ozempic-babies-unplanned-pregnancies

This piece is a bit more informative. The suggestion is that it interferes with contraceptive meds, and also raises fertility generally, including among those who’ve previously been considered postmenopausal or otherwise infertile.

Interesting.

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:23:51
From: OCDC
ID: 2162216
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

Really the Feds should fund it for everyone so we have population growth.

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:25:02
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2162217
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

OCDC said:


Really the Feds should fund it for everyone so we have population growth.

They’ve just made it slightly more difficult to access now, phone approved authority only, no streamline.

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:25:47
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2162218
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

OCDC said:


Really the Feds should fund it for everyone so we have population growth.

does it make men more fertile as well?

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:27:44
From: OCDC
ID: 2162219
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

poikilotherm said:

OCDC said:
Really the Feds should fund it for everyone so we have population growth.
They’ve just made it slightly more difficult to access now, phone approved authority only, no streamline.
Ah well, as long as there’s no polygraph it’s all good.

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:28:54
From: OCDC
ID: 2162220
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

JudgeMental said:

OCDC said:
Really the Feds should fund it for everyone so we have population growth.
does it make men more fertile as well?
Obesity has less impact on men’s fertility than women’s in the first place.

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:29:36
From: OCDC
ID: 2162222
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

Migraine is also an effective way to lose weight.

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:35:27
From: Cymek
ID: 2162226
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

I thought of starting another family, not sure though if I want to be a dad again in my 50’s

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:36:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 2162228
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

Cymek said:


I thought of starting another family, not sure though if I want to be a dad again in my 50’s

You may adopt or do the foster children thing?

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:37:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2162229
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

OCDC said:


Really the Feds should fund it for everyone so we have population growth.

Thanks Elon. :-)

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:38:00
From: Arts
ID: 2162230
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

will these babies be obese?

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:39:33
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2162231
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

Arts said:


will these babies be obese?

Big boned.

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:40:58
From: OCDC
ID: 2162233
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

We have NFI how these babies will turn out.

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:44:32
From: Cymek
ID: 2162235
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

OCDC said:


We have NFI how these babies will turn out.

What could possible go wrong

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:45:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 2162236
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

Cymek said:


OCDC said:

We have NFI how these babies will turn out.

What could possible go wrong

The jury is out on that as well.

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Date: 5/06/2024 16:55:01
From: Arts
ID: 2162240
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

OCDC said:


We have NFI how these babies will turn out.

what good is your science now!?

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Date: 5/06/2024 17:00:35
From: buffy
ID: 2162246
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

OCDC said:


We have NFI how these babies will turn out.

There seems to be no information about whether it crosses the placental barrier I think.

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Date: 5/06/2024 17:34:10
From: dv
ID: 2162262
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

I mean I assume these people have made proper account of confounding factors but obv in general obesity is associated with lowered fertility.

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Date: 5/06/2024 18:28:53
From: Arts
ID: 2162286
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

buffy said:


OCDC said:

We have NFI how these babies will turn out.

There seems to be no information about whether it crosses the placental barrier I think.

there are studies on babies that were in utero in times of famine who were born under average weights.. which is not surprising, but what was surprising was that their subsequent children were also born under average weights, despite their maternal nutritional needs being met…

so this will be interesting to watch

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Date: 5/06/2024 18:50:35
From: Cymek
ID: 2162295
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

Arts said:


buffy said:

OCDC said:

We have NFI how these babies will turn out.

There seems to be no information about whether it crosses the placental barrier I think.

there are studies on babies that were in utero in times of famine who were born under average weights.. which is not surprising, but what was surprising was that their subsequent children were also born under average weights, despite their maternal nutritional needs being met…

so this will be interesting to watch

Did they know why

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Date: 5/06/2024 18:59:13
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2162299
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

Arts said:


buffy said:

OCDC said:

We have NFI how these babies will turn out.

There seems to be no information about whether it crosses the placental barrier I think.

there are studies on babies that were in utero in times of famine who were born under average weights.. which is not surprising, but what was surprising was that their subsequent children were also born under average weights, despite their maternal nutritional needs being met…

so this will be interesting to watch

was this part of the Dutch Famine study?

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Date: 5/06/2024 19:12:28
From: party_pants
ID: 2162301
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

Arts said:


buffy said:

OCDC said:

We have NFI how these babies will turn out.

There seems to be no information about whether it crosses the placental barrier I think.

there are studies on babies that were in utero in times of famine who were born under average weights.. which is not surprising, but what was surprising was that their subsequent children were also born under average weights, despite their maternal nutritional needs being met…

so this will be interesting to watch

…for those still around to see it.

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Date: 5/06/2024 19:51:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2162312
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

party_pants said:

Arts said:

buffy said:

There seems to be no information about whether it crosses the placental barrier I think.

there are studies on babies that were in utero in times of famine who were born under average weights.. which is not surprising, but what was surprising was that their subsequent children were also born under average weights, despite their maternal nutritional needs being met…

so this will be interesting to watch

…for those still around to see it.

And just for those who won’t, we can run the whole famine experiment again, with war and global warming thrown in for excellent measure¡

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Date: 6/06/2024 12:38:55
From: Michael V
ID: 2162461
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

Cymek said:


Arts said:

buffy said:

There seems to be no information about whether it crosses the placental barrier I think.

there are studies on babies that were in utero in times of famine who were born under average weights.. which is not surprising, but what was surprising was that their subsequent children were also born under average weights, despite their maternal nutritional needs being met…

so this will be interesting to watch

Did they know why

Epigenetics.

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Date: 5/12/2024 07:39:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2222047
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

well how is this acceptable

A report by Citigroup has found the US economy is already experiencing changes in its food and fashion industries after the widespread uptake of weight loss drugs

The uptake in Australia has been slower than in the US, but one fitness business owner says she’s already feeling the impact of fewer clients

Hundreds of millions of people are predicted to be using weight loss medications globally over the next decade, which could lead to an uptick in productivity

where’s the outcry from small fitness business owners, like the coal moguls and the inner city cafe owners they must be compensated, it’s unfair to them that they put all their enterprising eggs in one social harm basket

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Date: 12/02/2025 22:20:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2248524
Subject: re: Ozempic babies

The prospect of tens of millions of people cutting their caloric intake down to roughly 1,000 per day, which is half the minimum amount recommended for men, is unsettling the industry. Late last year, Lars Fruergaard Jorgensen, the chief executive of Novo Nordisk, which makes Ozempic and Wegovy, told Bloomberg that food-industry executives had been calling him. “They are scared about it,” he said. Around the same time, Walmart’s chief executive in the United States, John Furner, said that customers on GLP-1s were putting less food into their carts. Sales are down in sweet baked goods and snacks, and the industry is weathering a downturn. By one market-research firm’s estimate, food-and-drink innovation in 2024 reached an all-time nadir, with fewer new products coming to market than ever before.

Ozempic users like Taylor aren’t just eating less. They’re eating differently. GLP-1 drugs seem not only to shrink appetite but to rewrite people’s desires. They attack what Amy Bentley, a food historian and professor at New York University, calls the industrial palate: the set of preferences created by our acclimatization, often starting with baby food, to the tastes and textures of artificial flavors and preservatives. Patients on GLP-1 drugs have reported losing interest in ultraprocessed foods, products that are made with ingredients you wouldn’t find in an ordinary kitchen: colorings, bleaching agents, artificial sweeteners and modified starches. Some users realize that many packaged snacks they once loved now taste repugnant. “Wegovy destroyed my taste buds,” a Redditor wrote on a support group, adding: “And I love it.”

Major food companies are scrambling to research the impact of the drugs on their brands — and figure out how to adjust. “The whole field is still a little stunned,” Ashley Gearhardt, a food-addiction researcher and psychology professor at the University of Michigan, told me over the phone. But for Mattson, which for nearly 50 years has invented products for the nation’s biggest food conglomerates, the Ozempic threat could be a boon.

Given Big Food’s track record, it’s likely that the companies will succeed at finding products Ozempic users crave. But what if they’re too successful? I asked Nicole Avena, a professor of neuroscience at Mount Sinai who studies sugar addiction, if she believed it could be possible for food companies to engineer, intentionally or not, compounds that would make GLP-1 drugs less effective. Avena told me it was plausible. The food industry, she pointed out, has cabinets of formidable reward-triggering compounds with which to experiment. Companies could end up counteracting the drugs to some degree in their efforts to make foods more rewarding, she said.

Shimek, who is in talks with the “biggest of the big” food companies about designing GLP-1-optimized products, said he was not anxious about Big Food’s trying to overwhelm the brains of GLP-1 users with hyper-rewarding compounds. Taste and pleasure are “very important,” said Shimek, who seemed to be choosing his words carefully, but “not the only thing.” There is “an honest desire” in the industry, he added, to support people in their weight-loss journeys. Shimek wouldn’t say which companies he is speaking to about GLP-1 products. “We are professional secret keepers,” he said.

Stuckey had her team think about companies that might be a natural fit for their optimized creations for GLP-1 users. As I was finishing up my Ozempic-inspired lunch, they started throwing around ideas. Could the NourishFit brownie become a high-protein cake mix sold by Betty Crocker, a General Mills brand? Or Hostess, Stuckey said, could easily start a GLP-1 line: “Nobody would know it was from Hostess.” Because GLP-1 side effects include gastrointestinal issues, how about reaching out to General Mills, the owner of Fiber One, Stuckey said, and offering to help it design products targeted to GLP-1 users?

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