Date: 7/06/2024 05:41:47
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2162665
Subject: SpaceX Starship Flight Four

Overall a success, but only just.
The powered ascent seemed to go quite well, just one of the 33 booster engines not running. The hot staging seemed to go perfectly, the rotation then boost-back went as per plan. The hot staging ring was detached to save about 9 tonnes for the landing phase. The booster made a perfect burn and landed as intended with a soft touchdown on the sea near Texas. (I think it was around there at least)
The upper stage seemed to make a perfect flight up until about halfway through the re-entry phase. They had a camera pointed at one of the big moveable flaps, not sure if it was a top of bottom one, and over a couple of minutes we could see the base of the flap starting to melt & born through with chunks of it peeling away. But despite that the rocket remained under control and although the video wasn’t very good as the lens was fairly obscured by flap debris we could just see the flap move around to control the attitude of the rocket to make the flip manoeuvre just before lighting-up three engines for the second water touchdown.
So they still have some serious heat management problems to tackle, but it’s excellent progress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ4kTOrS670

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Date: 9/06/2024 07:16:41
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2163339
Subject: re: SpaceX Starship Flight Four

A short video of the booster stage landing on the ocean.
The flames coming out to the side probably indicate some kind of engine damage, as we knew one engine didn’t re-light for the initial touchdown burn.

https://x.com/i/status/1799458854067118450

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Date: 11/06/2024 18:55:27
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2163997
Subject: re: SpaceX Starship Flight Four

Starship has the same philosophy as the N1 of the soviets , lots of engines. I noticed one of them went out on the way up. The starship project is sad to say too ambitious, costs too much and has many, many problems. The Russians never bothered trying to recycle, too fraught with problems and over complicating the mission/ objective, they just build a new rocket with small changes, new materials , adjusted design perhaps?

The Americans would have been better off continuing with Saturn V, the entire production process in place , 1/2 missions a year GUARANTEED. Small adjustments and revisions, manned flyby to Venus. They were going to remove tonnes of weight by simply removing the fins ( not needed with gyro engines) for example. They might have even launched more space stations, more ambitious designs.

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