Date: 24/01/2011 20:06:33
From: Dinetta
ID: 119208
Subject: Words - 2011

Okies, go for this one…usual rules…use your educated guesses before spoiling it for others by consulting an online (or otherwise) Dictionary:

prophylaxis

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Date: 24/01/2011 20:08:30
From: trichome
ID: 119209
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Condom ?

sorry, i don’t know the rules :)

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Date: 24/01/2011 20:17:25
From: Dinetta
ID: 119210
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

Condom ?

sorry, i don’t know the rules :)

Good try Trichome, you’re playing well…

The “rules” aren’t really “rules”: somebody (usually Pepe) puts up a word s/he’s found and we try to guess the meaning based on if we actually know the word, if not, what it looks like might suggest a meaning…

It’s more fun if people have guesses and then eventually if nobody actually knows the word, then we go and look it up…

I’ve never seen that one before and your guess would be kind of close…not giving any more clues…

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Date: 24/01/2011 21:38:06
From: AnneS
ID: 119211
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Okies, go for this one…usual rules…use your educated guesses before spoiling it for others by consulting an online (or otherwise) Dictionary:

prophylaxis

eating particlular foods, or taking medication or undertaking activity as a preventative for disease.

Oh evening btw

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Date: 24/01/2011 21:46:08
From: trichome
ID: 119212
Subject: re: Words - 2011

artificial limb was my next guess :)

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Date: 24/01/2011 22:07:37
From: pepe
ID: 119213
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

Condom ?

sorry, i don’t know the rules :)

prophylactic – is condom i think – but you have to be in the ball park.

i’ll go for – loose morals

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Date: 24/01/2011 22:48:06
From: bon008
ID: 119215
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Okies, go for this one…usual rules…use your educated guesses before spoiling it for others by consulting an online (or otherwise) Dictionary:

prophylaxis

Hum hum hum – related to prophylactic? Something medical..

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Date: 24/01/2011 22:48:49
From: bon008
ID: 119216
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

artificial limb was my next guess :)

I was going to say that and then I realised I was just getting confused with prosthesis :D

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Date: 24/01/2011 22:49:23
From: bon008
ID: 119217
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


trichome said:

Condom ?

sorry, i don’t know the rules :)

prophylactic – is condom i think – but you have to be in the ball park.

i’ll go for – loose morals

Condom sounds right to me – but is it a literal meaning or has it occurred as a result of a metaphor?

Interesting.

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Date: 24/01/2011 23:11:31
From: trichome
ID: 119218
Subject: re: Words - 2011

it has been answered, yes?
if i had another guess it would be “something that has an anti-prune effect” :)

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Date: 25/01/2011 00:22:55
From: bubba louie
ID: 119219
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


trichome said:

Condom ?

sorry, i don’t know the rules :)

prophylactic – is condom i think – but you have to be in the ball park.

i’ll go for – loose morals

hehehe Remember “The Blue’s Brothers”?

When he was getting out of jail and they were returning his possessions?

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Date: 25/01/2011 00:26:56
From: bubba louie
ID: 119220
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bubba louie said:


pepe said:

trichome said:

Condom ?

sorry, i don’t know the rules :)

prophylactic – is condom i think – but you have to be in the ball park.

i’ll go for – loose morals

hehehe Remember “The Blue’s Brothers”?

When he was getting out of jail and they were returning his possessions?

Corrections Officer: One Timex digital watch, broken. One unused prophylactic.

Corrections Officer: One soiled.

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Date: 25/01/2011 00:28:37
From: bubba louie
ID: 119221
Subject: re: Words - 2011

I know, I know, I know…….I cheated. LOL

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Date: 25/01/2011 08:27:04
From: Dinetta
ID: 119225
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Will I wait for BlueGreen? None of the answers fit with where I read the word…

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Date: 25/01/2011 08:28:48
From: Dinetta
ID: 119226
Subject: re: Words - 2011

That doesn’t mean the right answer hasn’t been put up, just that none of them agree with the context in which I found the word…

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Date: 25/01/2011 08:35:08
From: trichome
ID: 119227
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


That doesn’t mean the right answer hasn’t been put up, just that none of them agree with the context in which I found the word…

i would have thought that the word putter upperer would have the correct definition on hand ? Yes ?

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Date: 25/01/2011 08:36:28
From: Dinetta
ID: 119228
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Dinetta said:

That doesn’t mean the right answer hasn’t been put up, just that none of them agree with the context in which I found the word…

i would have thought that the word putter upperer would have the correct definition on hand ? Yes ?

No. I put it up because I have never seen it before. :)

The webpage that I read it on has been bookmarked and after BlueGreen has had a go, I’ll look up the meaning then lol!

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Date: 25/01/2011 08:46:50
From: trichome
ID: 119229
Subject: re: Words - 2011

see/find the word in a sentence in context, look up the definition, then put up the word ?
that is how i imagine it would go :)

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Date: 25/01/2011 09:20:31
From: AnneS
ID: 119230
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Morning. I hope you’ll give us the link to the webpage that has it. I am really intrigued now, cause I thought I was on the right track :(

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Date: 25/01/2011 09:36:16
From: Dinetta
ID: 119234
Subject: re: Words - 2011

HI Anne, I wondered if you were too, but I went back and checked the website…hope you don’t mind waiting? It could well be that the writer has not used the word properly but as it’s a word I’ve never seen before, I thought I would put it up as a “puzzle”…have bookmarked the webpage so I don’t lose it again :P

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Date: 25/01/2011 10:22:07
From: bluegreen
ID: 119240
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Will I wait for BlueGreen? None of the answers fit with where I read the word…

no, don’t wait for me :)

I don’t have any guesses other than what has already been put up.

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Date: 25/01/2011 10:23:41
From: bluegreen
ID: 119241
Subject: re: Words - 2011

AnneS said:

eating particlular foods, or taking medication or undertaking activity as a preventative for disease.

this is what I would guess is the closest?

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Date: 25/01/2011 10:25:36
From: Dinetta
ID: 119243
Subject: re: Words - 2011

OK, I’m off to check the dictionary…

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Date: 25/01/2011 10:26:53
From: bluegreen
ID: 119244
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


OK, I’m off to check the dictionary…

btw. I am flattered that you wanted my input :D

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Date: 25/01/2011 10:28:03
From: Dinetta
ID: 119245
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

OK, I’m off to check the dictionary…

btw. I am flattered that you wanted my input :D

I still remember you getting “apex” correct…

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Date: 25/01/2011 10:37:07
From: Dinetta
ID: 119246
Subject: re: Words - 2011

The word means, according to The Concise Oxford Dictionary , “Preventive treatment of disease”. From Pro + the Greek Phalaxis “a guarding, after prec.” Not sure what “prec.” means but there you go…

This is the basic, bare-bones meaning.

So hot-damn, AnneS is right as to the meaning of the word! Yay! Congrats to Anne! and fairy claps too!

The webpage I found this word on is

Enjoy.

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Date: 25/01/2011 10:39:06
From: AnneS
ID: 119247
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


The word means, according to The Concise Oxford Dictionary , “Preventive treatment of disease”. From Pro + the Greek Phalaxis “a guarding, after prec.” Not sure what “prec.” means but there you go…

This is the basic, bare-bones meaning.

So hot-damn, AnneS is right as to the meaning of the word! Yay! Congrats to Anne! and fairy claps too!

The webpage I found this word on is

Enjoy.

aww…gee thanks :)

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Date: 25/01/2011 10:44:16
From: AnneS
ID: 119248
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


The word means, according to The Concise Oxford Dictionary , “Preventive treatment of disease”. From Pro + the Greek Phalaxis “a guarding, after prec.” Not sure what “prec.” means but there you go…

This is the basic, bare-bones meaning.

So hot-damn, AnneS is right as to the meaning of the word! Yay! Congrats to Anne! and fairy claps too!

The webpage I found this word on is

Enjoy.

Ah well he is using it in the context of the “prevention of being hurt” I guess

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Date: 25/01/2011 10:51:36
From: Dinetta
ID: 119249
Subject: re: Words - 2011

AnneS said:

Ah well he is using it in the context of the “prevention of being hurt” I guess

I think he’s being highly sarcastic, I do…

…but it is funny…

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Date: 25/01/2011 11:04:12
From: AnneS
ID: 119250
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


AnneS said:

Ah well he is using it in the context of the “prevention of being hurt” I guess

I think he’s being highly sarcastic, I do…

…but it is funny…

I have visions of #1 son being a middle aged learner driver (if ever!). At least I will be unlikely t obe having to drive him around by that stage! :D

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Date: 25/01/2011 11:28:12
From: Yeehah
ID: 119252
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


The word means, according to The Concise Oxford Dictionary , “Preventive treatment of disease”. From Pro + the Greek Phalaxis “a guarding, after prec.” Not sure what “prec.” means but there you go…

This is the basic, bare-bones meaning.

So hot-damn, AnneS is right as to the meaning of the word! Yay! Congrats to Anne! and fairy claps too!

The webpage I found this word on is

Enjoy.

Aha! As soon as I read “preventative treatment of disease” I recalled reading something somewhere sometime long ago where somebody’s doctor suspected that the patient may have contracted something or other, but the tests would take a while to come back with a positive or negative result, so the patient was prescribed a prophylactic course of antibiotics.

It was dancing around the edge of my memory but I couldn’t get it without cheating so I was doing the noble thing and remaining silent (rather than make a dill of myself).

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Date: 25/01/2011 11:36:53
From: Dinetta
ID: 119253
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:

the patient was prescribed a prophylactic course of antibiotics.

…which just goes to show the normal usuage of “prophylactic” today (as a physical barrier to conception…more simply, the condom), whilst strictly correct, means the word “prophylactic” has become almost interchangeable with the word “condom”…even synonymous to most of the English – speaking population…

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Date: 25/01/2011 11:37:43
From: pepe
ID: 119254
Subject: re: Words - 2011

<<But now="" we="" enter="" a="" new="" zone="" of="" humiliation.="" Where="" L-plates="" were="" a="" perfect="" prophylaxis="" against="" motorists="" coming="" within="" cooee="" of="" the="" learner="" driver,="" P-plates="" are="" a="" positive="" incitement="" to="" tail-gate,="" flash="" and="" toot.="">>

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preventative – makes sense

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Date: 25/01/2011 11:40:21
From: pepe
ID: 119256
Subject: re: Words - 2011

“But now we enter a new zone of humiliation. Where L-plates were a perfect prophylaxis against motorists coming within cooee of the learner driver, P-plates are a positive incitement to tail-gate, flash and toot.”

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preventative – makes sense

hey – what the – don’t use >> as quotation marks

good morning. the cleaner’s here – my dust prophylaxis?

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Date: 25/01/2011 11:43:13
From: Dinetta
ID: 119257
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:

hey – what the – don’t use >> as quotation marks

good morning. the cleaner’s here – my dust prophylaxis?

No, I found that out about the chevrons the other week…

I think the cleaner is more of a remedy than a prevention, Pepe…with all due respect of course…

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Date: 25/01/2011 11:44:18
From: bon008
ID: 119258
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


The word means, according to The Concise Oxford Dictionary , “Preventive treatment of disease”. From Pro + the Greek Phalaxis “a guarding, after prec.” Not sure what “prec.” means but there you go…

This is the basic, bare-bones meaning.

So hot-damn, AnneS is right as to the meaning of the word! Yay! Congrats to Anne! and fairy claps too!

The webpage I found this word on is

Enjoy.

Geez, if he’s whinging about a bowel cancer test, I can only say he’s lucky not to have had to give birth.. :D

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Date: 25/01/2011 11:44:36
From: Dinetta
ID: 119259
Subject: re: Words - 2011

…mind you the cleaner could well prove to be a prophylaxis to the occurence of spider’s webs…

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Date: 25/01/2011 11:49:09
From: pepe
ID: 119263
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


…mind you the cleaner could well prove to be a prophylaxis to the occurence of spider’s webs…

nup – still not a good context. you need to think of wrapping something.

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Date: 25/01/2011 12:08:57
From: Yeehah
ID: 119267
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Yeehah said:

the patient was prescribed a prophylactic course of antibiotics.

…which just goes to show the normal usuage of “prophylactic” today (as a physical barrier to conception…more simply, the condom), whilst strictly correct, means the word “prophylactic” has become almost interchangeable with the word “condom”…even synonymous to most of the English – speaking population…

Technically, though, the original use of the word “prophylactic” in relation to condoms would have been as disease prevention. Pregnancy isn’t a disease ;)

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Date: 25/01/2011 12:19:01
From: AnneS
ID: 119269
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


Dinetta said:

Yeehah said:

the patient was prescribed a prophylactic course of antibiotics.

…which just goes to show the normal usuage of “prophylactic” today (as a physical barrier to conception…more simply, the condom), whilst strictly correct, means the word “prophylactic” has become almost interchangeable with the word “condom”…even synonymous to most of the English – speaking population…

Technically, though, the original use of the word “prophylactic” in relation to condoms would have been as disease prevention. Pregnancy isn’t a disease ;)

but Aids is

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Date: 25/01/2011 12:26:50
From: Yeehah
ID: 119270
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


“But now we enter a new zone of humiliation. Where L-plates were a perfect prophylaxis against motorists coming within cooee of the learner driver, P-plates are a positive incitement to tail-gate, flash and toot.”

————————————

preventative – makes sense

hey – what the – don’t use >> as quotation marks

good morning. the cleaner’s here – my dust prophylaxis?

cleaner = prophylactic effect on possible disease-carrying organisms.

This is an example of how language changes.

There seem to be two essential elements to the definition of “prophylaxis” (1) prevention (2) of disease.

When the word is used out of context in a humorous sense (especially as the “prophylactic”/“condom” interchangeability has become widely recognised in our use of the English language) i.e. it is implied that “motorists coming within cooee of the learner driver” are the disease that is being prevented.

Over time though, the use of the word “prophylaxis” could be interpreted as being interchangeable with “preventative”, inferred by its use in context as in this case, and having lost its reference to the second part of its meaning “(prevention) of disease”.

Ooh, I love words :)

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Date: 25/01/2011 12:30:05
From: Yeehah
ID: 119271
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


cleaner = prophylactic effect on possible disease-carrying organisms.

This is an example of how language changes.

There seem to be two essential elements to the definition of “prophylaxis” (1) prevention (2) of disease.

When the word is used out of context in a humorous sense (especially as the “prophylactic”/“condom” interchangeability has become widely recognised in our use of the English language) i.e. it is implied that “motorists coming within cooee of the learner driver” are the disease that is being prevented.

Over time though, the use of the word “prophylaxis” could be interpreted as being interchangeable with “preventative”, inferred by its use in context as in this case, and having lost its reference to the second part of its meaning “(prevention) of disease”.

Ooh, I love words :)

I once wrote 3,000 words (not counting annexures) defining “table” “desk” and “bench”.
Godammit that was fuuuun!!!!!!!!!!

(And I got a High Distinction and won the annual university Linguistics award that year … oh, the memories!)

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Date: 25/01/2011 13:15:25
From: hortfurball
ID: 119273
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Ooh, I like this thread!

My only request would be to include the sentence as I can often work out the meaning of a word from the context it is used in, but have no clue when I see it on its own. Case in point when my man was reading a book the other day and asked me if I knew what a word meant. Once I read the sentence, I figured it out. (he was quite impressed :))

New word…

PERFIDIOUS

I’ll find the sentence this afternoon when I get home if you all prefer to have it in context as well.

Yeehah, when my BFF was my housemate approx 14 years ago, one of our favourite authors inspired us to start a couple of lists. Much as I love Dick Francis novels, he has a tendency to say ‘said’ a lot (‘I said’, ‘he said’) and we bemoaned the fact that he only occasionally substituted it with alternatives, setting us on a mission to come up with as many replacements as possible…uttered, voiced, mumbled, etc. Of course we forgot what we’d already said and ended up having to write the list down and stick it on the fridge, where we added to it over the course of a few weeks before we ran out of words. Then we started on ‘walked’, LOL! (ambled, meandered, sauntered, sidled) Or more accurately ‘means of getting from here to there’ because we included things like ‘ran’, ‘sprinted’ and ‘bounced’.

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Date: 25/01/2011 13:16:34
From: Dinetta
ID: 119275
Subject: re: Words - 2011

According to my dictionary, the Greek “phulaxsis” means “ a guarding”… so the preventive medicine is prescribed as a guarding against the possible disease / illness…

In the ABC story, the L plate creates a guarding around the driver that the other drivers on the road don’t care to breach…

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Date: 25/01/2011 13:17:32
From: Dinetta
ID: 119276
Subject: re: Words - 2011

More of a puzzle when not in a sentence…

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Date: 25/01/2011 13:20:45
From: Dinetta
ID: 119278
Subject: re: Words - 2011

hortfurball said:

Much as I love Dick Francis novels, he has a tendency to say ‘said’ a lot (‘I said’, ‘he said’) and we bemoaned the fact that he only occasionally substituted it with alternatives, setting us on a mission to come up with as many replacements as possible…uttered, voiced, mumbled, etc. Of course we forgot what we’d already said and ended up having to write the list down and stick it on the fridge, where we added to it over the course of a few weeks before we ran out of words. Then we started on ‘walked’, LOL! (ambled, meandered, sauntered, sidled) Or more accurately ‘means of getting from here to there’ because we included things like ‘ran’, ‘sprinted’ and ‘bounced’.

A lot of those authors have a formula for their story-telling and their largely uncritical audience is happy with “said” and “walked” … gets on my nerves too but hey the plot’s the thing…

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Date: 25/01/2011 13:36:43
From: pepe
ID: 119279
Subject: re: Words - 2011

New word…

PERFIDIOUS
———

i need a context thanks.

it’s an adjective meaning something like insidious?

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Date: 25/01/2011 13:37:44
From: Dinetta
ID: 119281
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


New word…

PERFIDIOUS
———

i need a context thanks.

it’s an adjective meaning something like insidious?

To my mind, perfidy is generally used as a betrayal of trust?

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Date: 25/01/2011 13:40:18
From: pepe
ID: 119282
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


According to my dictionary, the Greek “phulaxsis” means “ a guarding”… so the preventive medicine is prescribed as a guarding against the possible disease / illness…

In the ABC story, the L plate creates a guarding around the driver that the other drivers on the road don’t care to breach…

and my dictionary calls it a ‘medicine” and deletes the need for a cage of any sort. nonetheless i smell an implication – protection = cage = prevention LOL

“the poor poodle’s prophylaxis against further hip injury was a steel cage”.

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Date: 25/01/2011 13:58:58
From: AnneS
ID: 119283
Subject: re: Words - 2011

hortfurball said:


Ooh, I like this thread!

New word…

PERFIDIOUS

Wicked?

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Date: 25/01/2011 14:06:57
From: Yeehah
ID: 119285
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


According to my dictionary, the Greek “phulaxsis” means “ a guarding”… so the preventive medicine is prescribed as a guarding against the possible disease / illness…

In the ABC story, the L plate creates a guarding around the driver that the other drivers on the road don’t care to breach…

Begone, ye splitter of haires, LOL!!!!!!

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Date: 25/01/2011 14:10:42
From: Yeehah
ID: 119286
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


Dinetta said:

According to my dictionary, the Greek “phulaxsis” means “ a guarding”… so the preventive medicine is prescribed as a guarding against the possible disease / illness…

In the ABC story, the L plate creates a guarding around the driver that the other drivers on the road don’t care to breach…

Begone, ye splitter of haires, LOL!!!!!!

Also, when I did first year Linguistics (half a lifetime ago) we were told that Linguists are Descriptivists, in that they describe what language users do with language – given that effective communication is the primary objective of language – whereas English Teachers are Prescriptivists, meaning that they prescribe or tell language users how to use language in a matter that’s considered correct.

At the same time that I love observing the way language is used and language use changes, I also bemoan the almost universal level of ignorance about punctuation and grammar, and misspellings such as your/you’re that spell-checkers don’t pick up.

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Date: 25/01/2011 14:12:11
From: Yeehah
ID: 119287
Subject: re: Words - 2011

.. and I love flaunting my polysyllabic vocabulary (say that fast when you’re drunk!).

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Date: 25/01/2011 14:23:57
From: hortfurball
ID: 119291
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


hortfurball said:
Much as I love Dick Francis novels, he has a tendency to say ‘said’ a lot (‘I said’, ‘he said’) and we bemoaned the fact that he only occasionally substituted it with alternatives, setting us on a mission to come up with as many replacements as possible…uttered, voiced, mumbled, etc. Of course we forgot what we’d already said and ended up having to write the list down and stick it on the fridge, where we added to it over the course of a few weeks before we ran out of words. Then we started on ‘walked’, LOL! (ambled, meandered, sauntered, sidled) Or more accurately ‘means of getting from here to there’ because we included things like ‘ran’, ‘sprinted’ and ‘bounced’.

A lot of those authors have a formula for their story-telling and their largely uncritical audience is happy with “said” and “walked” … gets on my nerves too but hey the plot’s the thing…

That and he had the rare ability to grab you from the opening sentence and just drag you along for the ride. The wonderful thing about an ‘easy reading’ style is that it is almost as if you are not reading at all, but simply absorbing the story. I also love the understated humour in his books, so droll! I lurve Dick Francis books. Just need to get my hands on the last three and I’ll have the whole collection.

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Date: 25/01/2011 14:26:49
From: Yeehah
ID: 119292
Subject: re: Words - 2011

hortfurball said:


Dinetta said:

hortfurball said:
Much as I love Dick Francis novels, he has a tendency to say ‘said’ a lot (‘I said’, ‘he said’) and we bemoaned the fact that he only occasionally substituted it with alternatives, setting us on a mission to come up with as many replacements as possible…uttered, voiced, mumbled, etc. Of course we forgot what we’d already said and ended up having to write the list down and stick it on the fridge, where we added to it over the course of a few weeks before we ran out of words. Then we started on ‘walked’, LOL! (ambled, meandered, sauntered, sidled) Or more accurately ‘means of getting from here to there’ because we included things like ‘ran’, ‘sprinted’ and ‘bounced’.

A lot of those authors have a formula for their story-telling and their largely uncritical audience is happy with “said” and “walked” … gets on my nerves too but hey the plot’s the thing…

That and he had the rare ability to grab you from the opening sentence and just drag you along for the ride. The wonderful thing about an ‘easy reading’ style is that it is almost as if you are not reading at all, but simply absorbing the story. I also love the understated humour in his books, so droll! I lurve Dick Francis books. Just need to get my hands on the last three and I’ll have the whole collection.

I od’d on him a coupla decades ago and haven’t been able to go back.

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Date: 25/01/2011 14:29:52
From: hortfurball
ID: 119293
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


New word…

PERFIDIOUS
———

i need a context thanks.

it’s an adjective meaning something like insidious?

You’ll have to wait til tonight I’m afraid, it has been requested that it remain more of a puzzle for a while. :)

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Date: 25/01/2011 14:34:42
From: trichome
ID: 119294
Subject: re: Words - 2011

hortfurball said:

New word…

PERFIDIOUS

guess:

perfection of/to, for others to the most rediculous ends

actualy with AnneS winning the last one, wouldn’t she has the honours to put up the next word? makes sense to me :)

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Date: 25/01/2011 14:44:00
From: hortfurball
ID: 119296
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


hortfurball said:

New word…

PERFIDIOUS

guess:

perfection of/to, for others to the most rediculous ends

actualy with AnneS winning the last one, wouldn’t she has the honours to put up the next word? makes sense to me :)

Oops, were there rules?

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Date: 25/01/2011 14:45:02
From: hortfurball
ID: 119297
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta and Anne S have it anyway. :)

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Date: 25/01/2011 14:47:46
From: hortfurball
ID: 119299
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


Yeehah said:

Dinetta said:

According to my dictionary, the Greek “phulaxsis” means “ a guarding”… so the preventive medicine is prescribed as a guarding against the possible disease / illness…

In the ABC story, the L plate creates a guarding around the driver that the other drivers on the road don’t care to breach…

Begone, ye splitter of haires, LOL!!!!!!

Also, when I did first year Linguistics (half a lifetime ago) we were told that Linguists are Descriptivists, in that they describe what language users do with language – given that effective communication is the primary objective of language – whereas English Teachers are Prescriptivists, meaning that they prescribe or tell language users how to use language in a matter that’s considered correct.

At the same time that I love observing the way language is used and language use changes, I also bemoan the almost universal level of ignorance about punctuation and grammar, and misspellings such as your/you’re that spell-checkers don’t pick up.

Sigh…the internet is awash with ‘txt speak’ and people who cannot spell or punctuate to save themselves. Every so often on my dog forum, a thread pops up where the ‘grammar nazis’ can get it all off our chests and rant about incorrect spelling etc.
Some favourite offenders:
would of/could of
too/two/to
there/their/they’re
then/than
apostrophe abuse (lots of dog’s)
and perhaps one of my all time favourites… “his going to the park”

Many more but I can’t remember them.

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Date: 25/01/2011 15:44:03
From: bon008
ID: 119305
Subject: re: Words - 2011

hortfurball said:


Ooh, I like this thread!

My only request would be to include the sentence as I can often work out the meaning of a word from the context it is used in, but have no clue when I see it on its own. Case in point when my man was reading a book the other day and asked me if I knew what a word meant. Once I read the sentence, I figured it out. (he was quite impressed :))

New word…

PERFIDIOUS

I’ll find the sentence this afternoon when I get home if you all prefer to have it in context as well.

Yeehah, when my BFF was my housemate approx 14 years ago, one of our favourite authors inspired us to start a couple of lists. Much as I love Dick Francis novels, he has a tendency to say ‘said’ a lot (‘I said’, ‘he said’) and we bemoaned the fact that he only occasionally substituted it with alternatives, setting us on a mission to come up with as many replacements as possible…uttered, voiced, mumbled, etc. Of course we forgot what we’d already said and ended up having to write the list down and stick it on the fridge, where we added to it over the course of a few weeks before we ran out of words. Then we started on ‘walked’, LOL! (ambled, meandered, sauntered, sidled) Or more accurately ‘means of getting from here to there’ because we included things like ‘ran’, ‘sprinted’ and ‘bounced’.

Perfidious, hey..

I’m thinking: sneaky, underhand, dodgy, cunning – but am I thinking of insidious?? Oh dear.
It brings to mind criminality, lack of morals.. I’ll be interested to see what everyone else has come up with!

Horty, when I first read Jane Austen novels I must admit I was thrown by how often someone “cried”, as opposed to “said”, “declared”, and so forth. I don’t even notice it now though :D

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Date: 25/01/2011 16:32:02
From: Dinetta
ID: 119310
Subject: re: Words - 2011

hortfurball said:

Oops, were there rules?

Yes, informal ones…like don’t look it up and the putter-upper advises the meaning after we’ve all had a go at guessing…sometimes people guess straight away…but people come up with all sorts of things and that’s the fun part…

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Date: 25/01/2011 16:32:30
From: Dinetta
ID: 119311
Subject: re: Words - 2011

hortfurball said:


Dinetta and Anne S have it anyway. :)

We do? Cool! I’m usually waaaaaaaaay off beam (just ask Pepe) :)

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Date: 25/01/2011 16:54:43
From: pepe
ID: 119314
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


hortfurball said:

Dinetta and Anne S have it anyway. :)

We do? Cool! I’m usually waaaaaaaaay off beam (just ask Pepe) :)

D & A rock with da words – and bonny too – and bg, rb and all the others – many are here to chat and the garden is just a topic of interest.

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Date: 25/01/2011 18:57:02
From: hortfurball
ID: 119336
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Perfidious, hey..

I’m thinking: sneaky, underhand, dodgy, cunning – but am I thinking of insidious?? Oh dear.
It brings to mind criminality, lack of morals.. I’ll be interested to see what everyone else has come up with!

Criminality – not necessarily. Lack of morals would be apt. :) Perfidious and insidious are relatively close in meaning.

Perfidious = treacherous, underhanded, deceitful

Insidious = sneaky

Either word can be used to describe a person but insidious can also be used when talking about a disease. Cancer is an insidious disease (hidden, secret, creeping) but is not perfidious because it has no intent.

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Date: 25/01/2011 21:14:47
From: pain master
ID: 119363
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Okies, go for this one…usual rules…use your educated guesses before spoiling it for others by consulting an online (or otherwise) Dictionary:

prophylaxis

I haven’t looked yet, but after talking anti-malarials with doctors in PNG, I would say “a medical barrier or preventative”

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Date: 25/01/2011 22:29:53
From: Dinetta
ID: 119389
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


Dinetta said:

Okies, go for this one…usual rules…use your educated guesses before spoiling it for others by consulting an online (or otherwise) Dictionary:

prophylaxis

I haven’t looked yet, but after talking anti-malarials with doctors in PNG, I would say “a medical barrier or preventative”

…and you were right…

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Date: 3/02/2011 22:32:11
From: pain master
ID: 120779
Subject: re: Words - 2011

here’s one for Brownsvillians…

“putrescible”

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Date: 3/02/2011 22:39:06
From: bluegreen
ID: 120786
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


here’s one for Brownsvillians…

“putrescible”

something that rots down to a stinky mess

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Date: 3/02/2011 22:41:40
From: bon008
ID: 120789
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


here’s one for Brownsvillians…

“putrescible”

Referring to something that will rot – go putrid?

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Date: 3/02/2011 23:03:08
From: Dinetta
ID: 120793
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


here’s one for Brownsvillians…

“putrescible”

That’s a word?

Something to do with material that’s likely to end up very very smelly? Or will smell very very dead?

This is an adjective…or it looks like it

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Date: 3/02/2011 23:05:11
From: Dinetta
ID: 120794
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


pain master said:

here’s one for Brownsvillians…

“putrescible”

That’s a word?

Something to do with material that’s likely to end up very very smelly? Or will smell very very dead?

This is an adjective…or it looks like it

resists temptation to look this up on the internet

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Date: 3/02/2011 23:10:41
From: Happy Potter
ID: 120796
Subject: re: Words - 2011

I think it’s to do with something that isn’t yet off, but will go off and smell if it isn’t removed within a certain time.

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Date: 4/02/2011 03:31:37
From: hortfurball
ID: 120803
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


here’s one for Brownsvillians…

“putrescible”

That would have to be from putrescent, meaning disgusting, detestable.

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Date: 4/02/2011 03:34:00
From: hortfurball
ID: 120804
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


pain master said:

here’s one for Brownsvillians…

“putrescible”

something that rots down to a stinky mess

Ok, I read too much, missed the literal meaning completely.

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Date: 4/02/2011 10:53:48
From: AnneS
ID: 120848
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


here’s one for Brownsvillians…

“putrescible”

smelly?

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Date: 4/02/2011 11:40:28
From: Yeehah
ID: 120864
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Happy Potter said:


I think it’s to do with something that isn’t yet off, but will go off and smell if it isn’t removed within a certain time.

If this ends up being the meaning (am reading up the LHC) I’ll have to tell Littlefella that when he scrapes the last of his cereal and milk into the compost container in the morning his actions make the compost putrescible ;)

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Date: 4/02/2011 15:15:15
From: pepe
ID: 120901
Subject: re: Words - 2011

AnneS said:


pain master said:

here’s one for Brownsvillians…

“putrescible”

smelly?

brownsvillians hehehe

‘putrid’ would be in context and fairly apt in a few days.

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Date: 4/02/2011 21:35:00
From: pain master
ID: 121066
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


here’s one for Brownsvillians…

“putrescible”

According to the Townsville’s website, it is the content of one’s fridge or freezer after TC Yasi destroys power to 110,000 Brownsvillians… to be taken to Reid Park for disposal.

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Date: 4/02/2011 22:31:15
From: Dinetta
ID: 121083
Subject: re: Words - 2011

It seems to be generally used with the word “waste” as well, and I found this:

putrescible waste
Solid waste that contains organic matter capable of being decomposed by microorganisms and of such a character and proportion as to cause obnoxious odors and to be capable of attracting or providing food for birds or animals.

There’s other definitions too, but I think the “obnoxious odours” is the main thought when the word is used on the website you were speaking of??

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Date: 6/02/2011 12:16:22
From: trichome
ID: 121495
Subject: re: Words - 2011

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

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Date: 6/02/2011 12:22:14
From: Dinetta
ID: 121498
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

Thanks Trichome…“post” would mean “after”…I haven’t seen it often enough in context to work out a meaning yet…have a feeling it means “after a significant event” but may be completely off-beam…

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Date: 6/02/2011 12:27:23
From: Dinetta
ID: 121501
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

Thanks Trichome…“post” would mean “after”…I haven’t seen it often enough in context to work out a meaning yet…have a feeling it means “after a significant event” but may be completely off-beam…

Come to think of it, I’ve really only seen it as “antediluvian”…

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Date: 6/02/2011 12:31:09
From: trichome
ID: 121504
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

have a feeling it means “after a significant event” but may be completely off-beam…

not off beam but on track to the meaning i’d say :)

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Date: 6/02/2011 12:43:45
From: Happy Potter
ID: 121511
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Oh oh oh! I know this one..
I read the word at bible studies years back.. it has something to do with parting of the waters.. come on memory! Nup..can’t remb..

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Date: 6/02/2011 12:45:27
From: Happy Potter
ID: 121512
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Happy Potter said:


Oh oh oh! I know this one..
I read the word at bible studies years back.. it has something to do with parting of the waters.. come on memory! Nup..can’t remb..

After the biblical flood.. remembered now :D

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Date: 6/02/2011 12:56:45
From: trichome
ID: 121513
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Happy Potter said:


Oh oh oh! I know this one..
it has something to do with parting of the waters

Close

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Date: 6/02/2011 12:58:36
From: trichome
ID: 121514
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Happy Potter said:


After the biblical flood.. remembered now :D

after flood yes that is it :)
but not necesarrily has to be a biblical flood

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Date: 6/02/2011 13:30:14
From: pepe
ID: 121519
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

ante diluvian is – people of the southern hemisphere???

post – diluvian therefore is – after the occupation of the new world by whites.
just guessing – need to look it up now
thanks trichome

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Date: 6/02/2011 13:38:20
From: bluegreen
ID: 121521
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

after the flood (often used in reference to Noah’s flood)

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Date: 6/02/2011 14:01:31
From: trichome
ID: 121523
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

after the flood (often used in reference to Noah’s flood)

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Date: 6/02/2011 14:02:30
From: trichome
ID: 121524
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

after the flood (often used in reference to Noah’s flood)

this is the actual correct answer.
congrats BG :)

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Date: 6/02/2011 14:12:12
From: bluegreen
ID: 121525
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


bluegreen said:

trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

after the flood (often used in reference to Noah’s flood)

this is the actual correct answer.
congrats BG :)

why thank you :)

antediluvian is before the flood by the way.

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Date: 6/02/2011 15:06:29
From: bon008
ID: 121540
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

Jeepers, I don’t know if it’s even worth trying, this rings no bells at all.

I wonder if the diluvian bit is based on a person, like Machiavellian? Post is easy, but diluvian? No idea.

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Date: 6/02/2011 15:08:13
From: bon008
ID: 121541
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Happy Potter said:


Happy Potter said:

Oh oh oh! I know this one..
I read the word at bible studies years back.. it has something to do with parting of the waters.. come on memory! Nup..can’t remb..

After the biblical flood.. remembered now :D

Huh, that’s interesting. “Deluge” immediately popped into my brain, but it didn’t seem to be relation to diluvian so I wrote it off as a faulty brain connection.

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Date: 6/02/2011 16:30:46
From: Dinetta
ID: 121544
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Happy Potter said:

After the biblical flood.. remembered now :D

after flood yes that is it :)
but not necesarrily has to be a biblical flood

Yay! Congrats to Happy Potter!

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Date: 6/02/2011 16:34:16
From: Dinetta
ID: 121547
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


bluegreen said:

trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

after the flood (often used in reference to Noah’s flood)

this is the actual correct answer.
congrats BG :)

Congrats to Blue Green too…(obviously I have not studied the Bible)

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Date: 6/02/2011 17:57:52
From: pain master
ID: 121558
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

the “d” throws me… is it the process of turning a nugget of gold into a piece of jewellery…

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Date: 6/02/2011 18:31:32
From: pain master
ID: 121576
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

the “d” throws me… is it the process of turning a nugget of gold into a piece of jewellery…

I was well off :)

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Date: 6/02/2011 20:04:44
From: pepe
ID: 121615
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


pain master said:

trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

the “d” throws me… is it the process of turning a nugget of gold into a piece of jewellery…

I was well off :)

i thought it referred to the antipodes – ah well …

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Date: 7/02/2011 13:33:52
From: bubba louie
ID: 121804
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

I’ve heard it used to describe something really outdated.

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Date: 7/02/2011 13:36:57
From: bubba louie
ID: 121807
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bubba louie said:


trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

I’ve heard it used to describe something really outdated.

or was that antidiluvian?

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Date: 7/02/2011 13:38:33
From: bubba louie
ID: 121809
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bubba louie said:


bubba louie said:

trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

I’ve heard it used to describe something really outdated.

or was that antidiluvian?

ante even.

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Date: 7/02/2011 14:49:04
From: Dinetta
ID: 121840
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bubba louie said:


trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

I’ve heard it used to describe something really outdated.

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Date: 7/02/2011 14:49:53
From: Dinetta
ID: 121842
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


bubba louie said:

trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

I’ve heard it used to describe something really outdated.

Aaargh! hit Submit prematurely…

Yep, I’ve seen it used that way too, Bubba…

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Date: 7/02/2011 14:51:19
From: Dinetta
ID: 121845
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bubba louie said:


bubba louie said:

trichome said:

just came across this one, never seen it before:

word is – postdiluvian

good luck :)

I’ve heard it used to describe something really outdated.

or was that antidiluvian?

gee the old memories are stirring here…yes it was antidliuvian that I’ve seen used to mean outdated…

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Date: 7/02/2011 14:59:19
From: bluegreen
ID: 121852
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Dinetta said:

bubba louie said:

I’ve heard it used to describe something really outdated.

Aaargh! hit Submit prematurely…

Yep, I’ve seen it used that way too, Bubba…

probably antediluvian as is something so old it is from before Noah’s flood.

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Date: 7/02/2011 15:00:35
From: Dinetta
ID: 121854
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

Dinetta said:

Aaargh! hit Submit prematurely…

Yep, I’ve seen it used that way too, Bubba…

probably antediluvian as is something so old it is from before Noah’s flood.

Good point, BlueGreen…

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Date: 7/02/2011 15:30:02
From: bon008
ID: 121867
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Dinetta said:

bubba louie said:

I’ve heard it used to describe something really outdated.

Aaargh! hit Submit prematurely…

Yep, I’ve seen it used that way too, Bubba…

Makes sense if you take it as “something that happened/was relevant around the time of Noah’s floods” I guess?

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Date: 7/02/2011 15:30:54
From: bon008
ID: 121868
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

Dinetta said:

Aaargh! hit Submit prematurely…

Yep, I’ve seen it used that way too, Bubba…

probably antediluvian as is something so old it is from before Noah’s flood.

That’s much more eloquent than the way I tried to say it!!

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Date: 11/02/2011 10:11:10
From: Dinetta
ID: 122404
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:

Really????

No.

Really, really…

Dont’ they teach vocab these days…mostly I love vernacular, any vernacular, but really, really become irate at the use of really, really instead of the dozens of possible substitutes…the English language is so rich, there’s heaps of expressions to choose from…really, really…I can hack “I was, like, are you gonna do that?” as like is only one word… but really, really annoys me as it’s not exactly tautology (which uses two different words to say the same thing) … it’s an overuse of a word to emphasise a meaning … Just got off the phone to Ragamuffin, she has been accepted into a Uni course and wonder of wonders, is enrolling! I put the really, really scenario to her and she self-corrected where she might have used really, really…

Transferring this to the Words thread…

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Date: 12/02/2011 15:07:01
From: Dinetta
ID: 122674
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Plangent

(not a typo)

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Date: 12/02/2011 15:18:50
From: pain master
ID: 122679
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Plangent

(not a typo)

I know I may pass as a Plain Gent… and I have heard of plangent before, but I cared not to remember the meaning at the time or the context.

So NFI here!

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Date: 12/02/2011 15:24:45
From: Dinetta
ID: 122680
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


Dinetta said:

Plangent

(not a typo)

I know I may pass as a Plain Gent… and I have heard of plangent before, but I cared not to remember the meaning at the time or the context.

So NFI here!

No Further Input?

That’s OK…I’m surprised you have seen it already, yesterday was the first time I came across it…

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Date: 12/02/2011 15:28:16
From: trichome
ID: 122682
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Plangent

(not a typo)

flat, going in a straight line

actually i have no idea at all on this one :)

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Date: 12/02/2011 15:29:45
From: Dinetta
ID: 122683
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Dinetta said:

Plangent

(not a typo)

flat, going in a straight line

actually i have no idea at all on this one :)

I looked it up to make sure it was a word, that’s why I said it wasn’t a typo…not sure of the meaning (I haven’t looked up the meaning, just the word) …

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Date: 12/02/2011 15:33:47
From: pomolo
ID: 122684
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

Dinetta said:

Plangent

(not a typo)

flat, going in a straight line

actually i have no idea at all on this one :)

I looked it up to make sure it was a word, that’s why I said it wasn’t a typo…not sure of the meaning (I haven’t looked up the meaning, just the word) …

Well I looked it up. That’s the only way I can know what you’re all on about in this thread.

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Date: 12/02/2011 17:04:06
From: pepe
ID: 122696
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Plangent

(not a typo)

big, all encompassing, covering a planet and including the universe – really, really big as in hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.

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Date: 12/02/2011 17:47:34
From: Yeehah
ID: 122724
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Plangent
(not a typo)

Context? Verb or noun or other? WIthout some additional data, no idea.

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Date: 12/02/2011 17:53:14
From: Dinetta
ID: 122730
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


Dinetta said:

Plangent

(not a typo)

big, all encompassing, covering a planet and including the universe – really, really big as in hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.

Lovely!

but sadly I don’t recall that being the context…

:D

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Date: 12/02/2011 18:02:53
From: Dinetta
ID: 122740
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


Dinetta said:

Plangent
(not a typo)

Context? Verb or noun or other? WIthout some additional data, no idea.

No no no,,,,none of that…you look at the word and figure it’s roots…normally the construction of the word would indicate the role it plays in a sentence, but this one doesn’t and that’s why I put it up…

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Date: 12/02/2011 18:08:08
From: trichome
ID: 122747
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

Dinetta said:

Plangent

(not a typo)

flat, going in a straight line

actually i have no idea at all on this one :)

I looked it up to make sure it was a word, that’s why I said it wasn’t a typo…not sure of the meaning (I haven’t looked up the meaning, just the word) …

if you don’t know the meaning how can you feild posts guessing at the meaning ?
that might sound deep :)

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Date: 12/02/2011 18:16:19
From: Yeehah
ID: 122758
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Yeehah said:

Dinetta said:

Plangent
(not a typo)

Context? Verb or noun or other? WIthout some additional data, no idea.

No no no,,,,none of that…you look at the word and figure it’s roots…normally the construction of the word would indicate the role it plays in a sentence, but this one doesn’t and that’s why I put it up…

Meanie :P

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Date: 12/02/2011 18:17:28
From: Dinetta
ID: 122762
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


Dinetta said:

Yeehah said:

Context? Verb or noun or other? WIthout some additional data, no idea.

No no no,,,,none of that…you look at the word and figure it’s roots…normally the construction of the word would indicate the role it plays in a sentence, but this one doesn’t and that’s why I put it up…

Meanie :P

Go onnn, this is right up your alley…!

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Date: 13/02/2011 16:17:00
From: Dinetta
ID: 122995
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Ok, I know you’re all in suspenders:

plangent: adjective (of sound) thrilling, vibrating, moaning, insistent. Hence “plangency” noun

From Latin “plangere” beat the breast

“ He heard the bagpipes playing, and their plangent tone made him turn around…it was Nairn, dead, being carried on a stretcher”…I’m quoting from memory, I think it’s Sharpe’s Peace by Bernard Cornwell…

It does look a bit like plaintive, when you squint at it…plus the context…

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Date: 13/02/2011 16:18:22
From: bon008
ID: 122996
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Ok, I know you’re all in suspenders:

plangent: adjective (of sound) thrilling, vibrating, moaning, insistent. Hence “plangency” noun

From Latin “plangere” beat the breast

“ He heard the bagpipes playing, and their plangent tone made him turn around…it was Nairn, dead, being carried on a stretcher”…I’m quoting from memory, I think it’s Sharpe’s Peace by Bernard Cornwell…

It does look a bit like plaintive, when you squint at it…plus the context…

Huh, cool. I doubt I’ll remember it. Are you a Sharpe fan? Mr Bon is a big fan.

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Date: 13/02/2011 16:31:53
From: Dinetta
ID: 123000
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

Ok, I know you’re all in suspenders:

plangent: adjective (of sound) thrilling, vibrating, moaning, insistent. Hence “plangency” noun

From Latin “plangere” beat the breast

“ He heard the bagpipes playing, and their plangent tone made him turn around…it was Nairn, dead, being carried on a stretcher”…I’m quoting from memory, I think it’s Sharpe’s Peace by Bernard Cornwell…

It does look a bit like plaintive, when you squint at it…plus the context…

Huh, cool. I doubt I’ll remember it. Are you a Sharpe fan? Mr Bon is a big fan.

I’m sure I’ll remember it, but it’s not really a word you can use all that often…the boyz have discovered Sharpe, they bring his books home from the Library…

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Date: 13/02/2011 22:46:02
From: Yeehah
ID: 123079
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Ok, I know you’re all in suspenders:

plangent: adjective (of sound) thrilling, vibrating, moaning, insistent. Hence “plangency” noun

From Latin “plangere” beat the breast

“ He heard the bagpipes playing, and their plangent tone made him turn around…it was Nairn, dead, being carried on a stretcher”…I’m quoting from memory, I think it’s Sharpe’s Peace by Bernard Cornwell…

It does look a bit like plaintive, when you squint at it…plus the context…

Would never have guessed! Mind you, I’d rather not have more words that are perfect for describing the godawful noise that bagpipes make, so I won’t be making a point of trying to remember that one.

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Date: 13/02/2011 22:47:45
From: Yeehah
ID: 123080
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


bon008 said:

Dinetta said:

Ok, I know you’re all in suspenders:

plangent: adjective (of sound) thrilling, vibrating, moaning, insistent. Hence “plangency” noun

From Latin “plangere” beat the breast

“ He heard the bagpipes playing, and their plangent tone made him turn around…it was Nairn, dead, being carried on a stretcher”…I’m quoting from memory, I think it’s Sharpe’s Peace by Bernard Cornwell…

It does look a bit like plaintive, when you squint at it…plus the context…

Huh, cool. I doubt I’ll remember it. Are you a Sharpe fan? Mr Bon is a big fan.

I’m sure I’ll remember it, but it’s not really a word you can use all that often…the boyz have discovered Sharpe, they bring his books home from the Library…

We went through a Hornblower stage, Older Son and I. Borrowed the DVDs/videos from the library several years ago, then of course had to borrow the books and read them.

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Date: 14/02/2011 13:47:50
From: bon008
ID: 123124
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


Dinetta said:

bon008 said:

Huh, cool. I doubt I’ll remember it. Are you a Sharpe fan? Mr Bon is a big fan.

I’m sure I’ll remember it, but it’s not really a word you can use all that often…the boyz have discovered Sharpe, they bring his books home from the Library…

We went through a Hornblower stage, Older Son and I. Borrowed the DVDs/videos from the library several years ago, then of course had to borrow the books and read them.

If you like Hornblower you must try Patrick O’Brian.. :)

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Date: 14/02/2011 14:13:53
From: Yeehah
ID: 123127
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Yeehah said:

We went through a Hornblower stage, Older Son and I. Borrowed the DVDs/videos from the library several years ago, then of course had to borrow the books and read them.

If you like Hornblower you must try Patrick O’Brian.. :)

Hmm, but I get over genres … that’s why I’m willing to part with my 20+ Anne McCaffrey sci-fi/fantasy books. I have re-read as many as I could get my hands on several times during my 20s and 30s and now they just don’t interest me. I’m currently in a chick-lit phase, with Irish authors my particular favourites, e.g. Marian Keyes, Cecelia Ahern. Also don’t mind the occasional Rachel Treasure (Aus) but I couldn’t read two of hers in a row.

I went through a Barbara Cartland phase in my late teens, followed by Mills and Boons (yep, I know, way uncool, but I did grow out of that!!). About five years ago went through a bodice-ripper (reading them!) phase, e.g. Amanda Quick.

I have a tendency to find a new author or style, read lots of them, get the rhythm of the writer’s template and then get over it when it starts to get too predictable.

I would really like to read the Phryne Fishers (Kerry Greenwood) but the library doesn’t have them and I won’t buy fiction any more.

People give me books that have rave reviews by literary buffs on the back, and they just don’t do it for me. I started reading a Tim Winton that Older Son had to read for his HSC and was complaining bitterly about – and I decided that Tim Winton was a miserable sonofa to be able to write that crap!

I hate biographical stuff about sad or tortured lives, no matter that the person ends up happily ever after at the end. I don’t like murders or mysteries – I am a born worrier and they just make me worry more, lol!

I like an easy read that’s a little bit intellectual, with a fairly good smattering of intelligent humour.

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Date: 14/02/2011 14:17:31
From: Yeehah
ID: 123129
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


I like an easy read that’s a little bit intellectual, with a fairly good smattering of intelligent humour.

Hence my 30+ year attachment to Georgette and Jane ;)

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Date: 14/02/2011 14:28:08
From: bon008
ID: 123131
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


bon008 said:

Yeehah said:

We went through a Hornblower stage, Older Son and I. Borrowed the DVDs/videos from the library several years ago, then of course had to borrow the books and read them.

If you like Hornblower you must try Patrick O’Brian.. :)

Hmm, but I get over genres … that’s why I’m willing to part with my 20+ Anne McCaffrey sci-fi/fantasy books. I have re-read as many as I could get my hands on several times during my 20s and 30s and now they just don’t interest me. I’m currently in a chick-lit phase, with Irish authors my particular favourites, e.g. Marian Keyes, Cecelia Ahern. Also don’t mind the occasional Rachel Treasure (Aus) but I couldn’t read two of hers in a row.

I went through a Barbara Cartland phase in my late teens, followed by Mills and Boons (yep, I know, way uncool, but I did grow out of that!!). About five years ago went through a bodice-ripper (reading them!) phase, e.g. Amanda Quick.

I have a tendency to find a new author or style, read lots of them, get the rhythm of the writer’s template and then get over it when it starts to get too predictable.

I would really like to read the Phryne Fishers (Kerry Greenwood) but the library doesn’t have them and I won’t buy fiction any more.

People give me books that have rave reviews by literary buffs on the back, and they just don’t do it for me. I started reading a Tim Winton that Older Son had to read for his HSC and was complaining bitterly about – and I decided that Tim Winton was a miserable sonofa to be able to write that crap!

I hate biographical stuff about sad or tortured lives, no matter that the person ends up happily ever after at the end. I don’t like murders or mysteries – I am a born worrier and they just make me worry more, lol!

I like an easy read that’s a little bit intellectual, with a fairly good smattering of intelligent humour.

Oh, I think I’m the opposite – I make friends with my books. I’m always going back to old friends rather than looking out for something new. Although I don’t re-read O’Brian often – 20 odd books in the series so it takes a while!

I don’t usually bother looking at what’s popular at the moment – doesn’t appeal. I want to know the genre, not whether a bunch of other people happen to like it.

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Date: 14/02/2011 14:29:37
From: bon008
ID: 123132
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


Yeehah said:

I like an easy read that’s a little bit intellectual, with a fairly good smattering of intelligent humour.

Hence my 30+ year attachment to Georgette and Jane ;)

I’ve got four Heyer’s so far. Perhaps I shouldn’t have read them so closely together but they ended up feeling a bit predictable. Still planning to get more though :)

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Date: 14/02/2011 15:34:42
From: trichome
ID: 123139
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:

the godawful noise that bagpipes make,

Heathen, the bagpipes are the sound of a great country :)

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Date: 14/02/2011 15:37:53
From: Dinetta
ID: 123140
Subject: re: Words - 2011

I’d learn them if I could…

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Date: 14/02/2011 15:40:56
From: trichome
ID: 123141
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


I’d learn them if I could…

i don’t reckon i’d have enoughg puff for them :)

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Date: 14/02/2011 16:56:58
From: bluegreen
ID: 123143
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Dinetta said:

I’d learn them if I could…

i don’t reckon i’d have enoughg puff for them :)

that’s what the bag is for :)

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Date: 14/02/2011 16:58:57
From: trichome
ID: 123144
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


trichome said:

Dinetta said:

I’d learn them if I could…

i don’t reckon i’d have enoughg puff for them :)

that’s what the bag is for :)

well i’d give them a go but only if Yeehah is present :)

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Date: 14/02/2011 20:56:07
From: AnneS
ID: 123157
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Yeehah said:

bon008 said:

If you like Hornblower you must try Patrick O’Brian.. :)

Hmm, but I get over genres … that’s why I’m willing to part with my 20+ Anne McCaffrey sci-fi/fantasy books. I have re-read as many as I could get my hands on several times during my 20s and 30s and now they just don’t interest me. I’m currently in a chick-lit phase, with Irish authors my particular favourites, e.g. Marian Keyes, Cecelia Ahern. Also don’t mind the occasional Rachel Treasure (Aus) but I couldn’t read two of hers in a row.

I went through a Barbara Cartland phase in my late teens, followed by Mills and Boons (yep, I know, way uncool, but I did grow out of that!!). About five years ago went through a bodice-ripper (reading them!) phase, e.g. Amanda Quick.

I have a tendency to find a new author or style, read lots of them, get the rhythm of the writer’s template and then get over it when it starts to get too predictable.

I would really like to read the Phryne Fishers (Kerry Greenwood) but the library doesn’t have them and I won’t buy fiction any more.

People give me books that have rave reviews by literary buffs on the back, and they just don’t do it for me. I started reading a Tim Winton that Older Son had to read for his HSC and was complaining bitterly about – and I decided that Tim Winton was a miserable sonofa to be able to write that crap!

I hate biographical stuff about sad or tortured lives, no matter that the person ends up happily ever after at the end. I don’t like murders or mysteries – I am a born worrier and they just make me worry more, lol!

I like an easy read that’s a little bit intellectual, with a fairly good smattering of intelligent humour.

Oh, I think I’m the opposite – I make friends with my books. I’m always going back to old friends rather than looking out for something new. Although I don’t re-read O’Brian often – 20 odd books in the series so it takes a while!

I don’t usually bother looking at what’s popular at the moment – doesn’t appeal. I want to know the genre, not whether a bunch of other people happen to like it.


I am reading more fantasy than anything at the moment, but I also like murder mysteries and spy thrillers (sorry Yeehah) and alternative fiction.

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Date: 14/02/2011 21:05:43
From: AnneS
ID: 123161
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Yeehah said:
the godawful noise that bagpipes make,

Heathen, the bagpipes are the sound of a great country :)

I don’t know about it being a great country, but I like bagpipes :)

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Date: 14/02/2011 21:06:57
From: Yeehah
ID: 123163
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Yeehah said:
the godawful noise that bagpipes make,

Heathen, the bagpipes are the sound of a great country :)

Actually, I really like massed pipe bands with drums but I can’t handle the lone piper. I have a low threshold for coping with high-lpitched noises.

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Date: 14/02/2011 21:09:18
From: Yeehah
ID: 123165
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


bluegreen said:

trichome said:

i don’t reckon i’d have enoughg puff for them :)

that’s what the bag is for :)

well i’d give them a go but only if Yeehah is present :)

I have ear plugs. Bring it on!

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Date: 14/02/2011 22:43:50
From: pain master
ID: 123180
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Yeehah said:
the godawful noise that bagpipes make,

Heathen, the bagpipes are the sound of a great country :)

I do like a good piper…

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Date: 15/02/2011 15:55:50
From: trichome
ID: 123219
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


trichome said:

Yeehah said:
the godawful noise that bagpipes make,

Heathen, the bagpipes are the sound of a great country :)

I do like a good piper…

nothing like hearing the valley full of good sound from the bagpipes :)

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Date: 28/02/2011 14:27:04
From: trichome
ID: 124390
Subject: re: Words - 2011

“spatchcock” well what is it?

I have never heard of it ‘til now, i think it is an old word/term :)

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Date: 28/02/2011 14:46:44
From: bon008
ID: 124392
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

“spatchcock” well what is it?

I have never heard of it ‘til now, i think it is an old word/term :)

Ooooooooooooh I know this one! Didn’t we just discuss this recently?

1. A smallish game bird.
2. A method of flattening any kind of bird for cooking – i.e. butterflying. Often done with spatchcocks and so sometimes also applied to chickens, etc.

I can’t take ANY credit for knowing it though – one of you lot explained it on here, not so long ago!! :)

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Date: 28/02/2011 15:16:45
From: bubba louie
ID: 124395
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


trichome said:

“spatchcock” well what is it?

I have never heard of it ‘til now, i think it is an old word/term :)

Ooooooooooooh I know this one! Didn’t we just discuss this recently?

1. A smallish game bird.
2. A method of flattening any kind of bird for cooking – i.e. butterflying. Often done with spatchcocks and so sometimes also applied to chickens, etc.

I can’t take ANY credit for knowing it though – one of you lot explained it on here, not so long ago!! :)

It is often used to refer to a very young chook because they are served Spathcocked ie split and flattened. But the correct term for a baby chook is a poussin.

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Date: 28/02/2011 15:56:30
From: pepe
ID: 124401
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


trichome said:

“spatchcock” well what is it?

I have never heard of it ‘til now, i think it is an old word/term :)

Ooooooooooooh I know this one! Didn’t we just discuss this recently?
1. A smallish game bird.
2. A method of flattening any kind of bird for cooking – i.e. butterflying. Often done with spatchcocks and so sometimes also applied to chickens, etc.
I can’t take ANY credit for knowing it though – one of you lot explained it on here, not so long ago!! :)

and Oooooh you’d be right i reckon.
i thought they were always little quail or small pheasants chicks. until i heard youse lot talking i wasn’t aware of the butterflying – but then a teev cook said the same thing.

a bed of mashed potato is optional for spatchcock but highly recommended. LOL.

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Date: 28/02/2011 17:28:04
From: trichome
ID: 124411
Subject: re: Words - 2011

yes i see you all know it :)

“The first references to “spatchcocking” appear in 18th-century Irish cookbooks. It’s been said that “spatchcock” is an abbreviation of “dispatch the cock.” In other words, to kill the chicken.

However, spatchcocking actually refers to a specific way of preparing the chicken so it can be flattened to cook quickly by grilling, roasting, or broiling, or over an open fire.”

http://recipes.howstuffworks.com/tools-and-techniques/what-is-spatchcock.htm

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Date: 2/03/2011 16:39:44
From: trichome
ID: 124609
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Soporific

just added this to my vocab. :)

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Date: 2/03/2011 16:41:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 124610
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Soporific

just added this to my vocab. :)

!

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Date: 2/03/2011 16:48:23
From: bon008
ID: 124612
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Soporific

just added this to my vocab. :)

Soporific.. something to do with sending one to sleep? As in a soporific drink before bed, or if someone’s got a really boring voice, that could be soporific..

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Date: 2/03/2011 16:52:57
From: pepe
ID: 124613
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Soporific

just added this to my vocab. :)

spell binding – sleep inducing – drugged – lazy – slow – blindly happy – unreasonably optimistic

something like that

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Date: 2/03/2011 17:13:48
From: trichome
ID: 124616
Subject: re: Words - 2011

yep thats it :)

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Date: 2/03/2011 22:27:02
From: Yeehah
ID: 124627
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Soporific

just added this to my vocab. :)

Learnt that one from The Tale of Peter Rabbit I think … wasn’t the lettuce a soporific, or had a soporific effect?

I love kids’ books that aren’t pitched too low.

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Date: 2/03/2011 22:34:49
From: Yeehah
ID: 124628
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


trichome said:

Soporific

just added this to my vocab. :)

Learnt that one from The Tale of Peter Rabbit I think … wasn’t the lettuce a soporific, or had a soporific effect?

I love kids’ books that aren’t pitched too low.

“It is said that the effect of eating too much lettuce is `soporific’”

Oh the internet is a wonderful beast at times :)

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Date: 2/03/2011 22:40:32
From: Yeehah
ID: 124630
Subject: re: Words - 2011

In the late 1970s/early 1980s when encyclopedia salesmen still existed, my folks invested in a set of World Book Encyclopedias at great expense.

From the time I was about 14 the World Book sat in its own bookcase on the landing half-way up the stairs (old bank building – big staircase, big landing).

There were times when, in the space of the first 16 (or so?) stairs that I’d have a thought, wonder about something that popped into my head; kneel at the foot of the bearer of great knowledge; and not be seen for a very long time as I turned pages and just read and read and read.

(My family despaired of my inability to focus on the task at hand for rather a long time!)

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Date: 2/03/2011 23:21:51
From: Happy Potter
ID: 124632
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


In the late 1970s/early 1980s when encyclopedia salesmen still existed, my folks invested in a set of World Book Encyclopedias at great expense.

From the time I was about 14 the World Book sat in its own bookcase on the landing half-way up the stairs (old bank building – big staircase, big landing).

There were times when, in the space of the first 16 (or so?) stairs that I’d have a thought, wonder about something that popped into my head; kneel at the foot of the bearer of great knowledge; and not be seen for a very long time as I turned pages and just read and read and read.

(My family despaired of my inability to focus on the task at hand for rather a long time!)

My favourite book was and still is, the dictionary. I must have 20!

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Date: 3/03/2011 01:00:15
From: Yeehah
ID: 124637
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Happy Potter said:

My favourite book was and still is, the dictionary. I must have 20!

I’ve always wanted an etymological dictionary. How did we not have this conversation when I was there? (Yeah, I know, probably because there were no gaps in the conversation, lol!)

I have a Macq Dic from the 80s, a Longman and another secondhand one, plus the school dictionary I practised my signature in when I was 13. But I’ve moved around a lot and have had to be realistic about the volume of my possessions.

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Date: 3/03/2011 19:41:26
From: painmaster
ID: 124661
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Happy Potter said:


Yeehah said:

In the late 1970s/early 1980s when encyclopedia salesmen still existed, my folks invested in a set of World Book Encyclopedias at great expense.

From the time I was about 14 the World Book sat in its own bookcase on the landing half-way up the stairs (old bank building – big staircase, big landing).

There were times when, in the space of the first 16 (or so?) stairs that I’d have a thought, wonder about something that popped into my head; kneel at the foot of the bearer of great knowledge; and not be seen for a very long time as I turned pages and just read and read and read.

(My family despaired of my inability to focus on the task at hand for rather a long time!)

My favourite book was and still is, the dictionary. I must have 20!

and they all end in Z

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Date: 20/03/2011 12:32:57
From: trichome
ID: 125597
Subject: re: Words - 2011

sibilant

new word for me, have heard this before but not known the meaning

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Date: 20/03/2011 13:31:02
From: Dinetta
ID: 125599
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

sibilant

new word for me, have heard this before but not known the meaning

Something to do with the way a sound is made (speech usually)…I keep getting it mixed up with whispered but I think the meaning may be more specific…

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Date: 20/03/2011 14:57:44
From: painmaster
ID: 125601
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

sibilant

new word for me, have heard this before but not known the meaning

a feral sister who takes the law of the house into her own hands, ignoring the paternal laws set down before she were even born???

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Date: 20/03/2011 16:15:02
From: trichome
ID: 125603
Subject: re: Words - 2011

painmaster said:


trichome said:

sibilant

new word for me, have heard this before but not known the meaning

a feral sister who takes the law of the house into her own hands, ignoring the paternal laws set down before she were even born???

:)

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Date: 20/03/2011 17:57:25
From: bon008
ID: 125604
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

sibilant

new word for me, have heard this before but not known the meaning

Ahh, I’ve seen this enough times that I should know the meaning, but I don’t think I do!

My first thought was along the lines of sycophant, but I think that’s just me getting confused because they sound the same.

Now I’m thinking.. is it religious somehow? Like a word to describe a particular role that a person has, like a person being newly initiated into a group, or.. I don’t know, I’m only getting very hazy thoughts! I’ll probably kick myself when I read the meaning :)

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Date: 20/03/2011 17:57:55
From: bon008
ID: 125605
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

sibilant

new word for me, have heard this before but not known the meaning

Something to do with the way a sound is made (speech usually)…I keep getting it mixed up with whispered but I think the meaning may be more specific…

Oh, yes, this rings a bell! Now it’s making me think of the way a snake hisses..

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Date: 20/03/2011 18:29:13
From: trichome
ID: 125607
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

sibilant

new word for me, have heard this before but not known the meaning

Something to do with the way a sound is made (speech usually)…I keep getting it mixed up with whispered but I think the meaning may be more specific…

very close :)

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Date: 20/03/2011 22:25:35
From: Yeehah
ID: 125635
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:

sibilant

new word for me, have heard this before but not known the meaning

The sound “s” is your garden variety sibilant – i.e. has a hissing sound.

“F” is a fricative, by the way, so even though it sounds kinda a bit hissy, it’s in another classification, and technically it’s not a sibilant.

Good gravy, I have forgotten so much of that degree that I finished ten years ago. ………

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Date: 20/03/2011 22:58:50
From: trichome
ID: 125636
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Yeehah said:


trichome said:

sibilant

new word for me, have heard this before but not known the meaning

The sound “s” is your garden variety sibilant – i.e. has a hissing sound.

“F” is a fricative, by the way, so even though it sounds kinda a bit hissy, it’s in another classification, and technically it’s not a sibilant.

Good gravy, I have forgotten so much of that degree that I finished ten years ago. ………

we have a correct winner, in Yeehah :)
actually we have a runner up too, in PM for the most creative thought up answer :)

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Date: 21/03/2011 08:38:41
From: pepe
ID: 125642
Subject: re: Words - 2011

painmaster said:


trichome said:

sibilant

new word for me, have heard this before but not known the meaning

a feral sister who takes the law of the house into her own hands, ignoring the paternal laws set down before she were even born???

a derivative of sibling was my guess as well -

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Date: 21/03/2011 20:35:24
From: painmaster
ID: 125709
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Yeehah said:

trichome said:

sibilant

new word for me, have heard this before but not known the meaning

The sound “s” is your garden variety sibilant – i.e. has a hissing sound.

“F” is a fricative, by the way, so even though it sounds kinda a bit hissy, it’s in another classification, and technically it’s not a sibilant.

Good gravy, I have forgotten so much of that degree that I finished ten years ago. ………

we have a correct winner, in Yeehah :)
actually we have a runner up too, in PM for the most creative thought up answer :)

whoo ooh! :D

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Date: 10/04/2011 09:15:09
From: pepe
ID: 127594
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Okies, go for this one…usual rules…use your educated guesses before spoiling it for others by consulting an online (or otherwise) Dictionary:

prophylaxis

good – same rules apply here

“Someone should give a lecture on the tenebrous chiaroscuro of renaissance painters”

tenebrous and chiaroscuro

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Date: 10/04/2011 09:20:09
From: Dinetta
ID: 127597
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


Dinetta said:

Okies, go for this one…usual rules…use your educated guesses before spoiling it for others by consulting an online (or otherwise) Dictionary:

prophylaxis

good – same rules apply here

“Someone should give a lecture on the tenebrous chiaroscuro of renaissance painters”

tenebrous and chiaroscuro

tenebrous looks like a misprint…

is “chairoscuro” even English? Trying to think what I know about renaissance painters…won’t take long LOL!

I have a feeling it might have something to do with how they layered their paints?

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Date: 10/04/2011 09:22:45
From: pepe
ID: 127600
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


pepe said:

Dinetta said:

Okies, go for this one…usual rules…use your educated guesses before spoiling it for others by consulting an online (or otherwise) Dictionary:

prophylaxis

good – same rules apply here

“Someone should give a lecture on the tenebrous chiaroscuro of renaissance painters”

tenebrous and chiaroscuro

tenebrous looks like a misprint…

is “chairoscuro” even English? Trying to think what I know about renaissance painters…won’t take long LOL!

I have a feeling it might have something to do with how they layered their paints?

miles off – but someone will know – i’m guessing one of the arty types. thanks for your honest attempt tho’ – when one of our word gurus is wrong i know i have set a tough challenge.

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Date: 10/04/2011 15:51:57
From: pepe
ID: 127630
Subject: re: Words - 2011

three more – less art more feminism this time

conventual

insoucience

vargamor

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Date: 10/04/2011 15:56:42
From: pepe
ID: 127631
Subject: re: Words - 2011

sorry misspelled

insouciance

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Date: 10/04/2011 16:50:20
From: Dinetta
ID: 127633
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


three more – less art more feminism this time

conventual

insoucience

vargamor

Well, insoucience is generally used in the context of an attitude of not quite sang froid but a high degree of self-confidence and a lot of what the youngsters call “cool”… not devil-may care, not casual, but certainly with a small degree of aplomg…

Never heard of the others…what are you reading? Wonder if “conventual” means a series of events all happening at once?

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Date: 10/04/2011 16:50:58
From: Dinetta
ID: 127634
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


pepe said:

three more – less art more feminism this time

conventual

insoucience

vargamor

Well, insoucience is generally used in the context of an attitude of not quite sang froid but a high degree of self-confidence and a lot of what the youngsters call “cool”… not devil-may care, not casual, but certainly with a small degree of aplomg…

Never heard of the others…what are you reading? Wonder if “conventual” means a series of events all happening at once?

*aplomb….

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Date: 10/04/2011 16:54:32
From: trichome
ID: 127635
Subject: re: Words - 2011

“chairoscuro”

i relate this to do with black and white photography, with light and shade, low light-high light together, often termed with a regular lighting type (rembrant), i don’t see “chairoscuro” this way, i prefer to see this in the absract B/W where this light exists or is seen eg. in water and rock with this light :)

not an actual definition but how i see “chairoscuro”

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Date: 10/04/2011 16:55:08
From: trichome
ID: 127636
Subject: re: Words - 2011

as for the other 3 = dunno :)

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Date: 10/04/2011 17:19:17
From: pepe
ID: 127639
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Well, insoucience is generally used in the context of an attitude of not quite sang froid but a high degree of self-confidence and a lot of what the youngsters call “cool”… not devil-may care, not casual, but certainly with a small degree of aplomg…
——————-
pretty good and one of my favourites too.

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Date: 10/04/2011 17:22:45
From: pepe
ID: 127640
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


“chairoscuro”

i relate this to do with black and white photography, with light and shade, low light-high light together, often termed with a regular lighting type (rembrant), i don’t see “chairoscuro” this way, i prefer to see this in the absract B/W where this light exists or is seen eg. in water and rock with this light :)

not an actual definition but how i see “chairoscuro”

ah the photographer is also the artist – very good – you obviously know it but oh to find the right words LOL

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Date: 10/04/2011 17:32:01
From: pepe
ID: 127645
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Never heard of the others…what are you reading? Wonder if “conventual” means a series of events all happening at once?
————————————————-

vargamor is something reader of robin hobb might know.
conventual is easy if you don’t try too hard.

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Date: 10/04/2011 17:44:00
From: Dinetta
ID: 127646
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


Never heard of the others…what are you reading? Wonder if “conventual” means a series of events all happening at once?
————————————————-

vargamor is something reader of robin hobb might know.
conventual is easy if you don’t try too hard.

I’ve read two Robin Hobb books, in a triology, waiting for the third…can’t remember the vargamor word but it might not be in the books I read…

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Date: 10/04/2011 17:55:47
From: pepe
ID: 127647
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


pepe said:

Never heard of the others…what are you reading? Wonder if “conventual” means a series of events all happening at once?
————————————————-

vargamor is something reader of robin hobb might know.
conventual is easy if you don’t try too hard.

I’ve read two Robin Hobb books, in a triology, waiting for the third…can’t remember the vargamor word but it might not be in the books I read…

it’s more to do with ‘wit’ than ‘skill’.

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Date: 10/04/2011 18:05:51
From: pain master
ID: 127649
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


Never heard of the others…what are you reading? Wonder if “conventual” means a series of events all happening at once?
————————————————-

vargamor is something reader of robin hobb might know.
conventual is easy if you don’t try too hard.

he stole from the rich and gave to the pool eh?

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Date: 10/04/2011 18:26:08
From: pepe
ID: 127651
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


pepe said:

Never heard of the others…what are you reading? Wonder if “conventual” means a series of events all happening at once?
————————————————-

vargamor is something reader of robin hobb might know.
conventual is easy if you don’t try too hard.

he stole from the rich and gave to the pool eh?

hobb – and she’s a she

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Date: 10/04/2011 19:11:31
From: Dinetta
ID: 127663
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:

hobb – and she’s a she

Is she really? She writes like a man…ducks

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Date: 10/04/2011 19:45:16
From: pepe
ID: 127672
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


pepe said:

hobb – and she’s a she

Is she really? She writes like a man…ducks

she does.
her main characters are a man and his dog.
what’s more she comes up with raw subject matter and describes the life of a castle kitchen in a way that not only seems mannish but boyish. some writers are beyond belief. i have read all 12 or so of her fantasies and the whole lot are astoundingly original.

she must have had a good father – chuckle.

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Date: 10/04/2011 19:59:11
From: bluegreen
ID: 127675
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


Dinetta said:

pepe said:

hobb – and she’s a she

Is she really? She writes like a man…ducks

she does.
her main characters are a man and his dog.
what’s more she comes up with raw subject matter and describes the life of a castle kitchen in a way that not only seems mannish but boyish. some writers are beyond belief. i have read all 12 or so of her fantasies and the whole lot are astoundingly original.

she must have had a good father – chuckle.

She is a favourite of Miss N and I have read them all too :)

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Date: 11/04/2011 07:42:03
From: Dinetta
ID: 127688
Subject: re: Words - 2011

A vargamor…would they be a group of people that live a particular way of life?

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Date: 11/04/2011 07:47:43
From: Dinetta
ID: 127689
Subject: re: Words - 2011

I see where the third book in the Nevare Burvelle triology has been completed …Renegade’s magic… hope it’s a happy ending…no “spoilers” please…

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Date: 11/04/2011 09:17:14
From: pepe
ID: 127693
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Ok – no more guesses so here are my answers

tenebrous = dark and gloomy
chiaroscuro = the study of light in art – in particular shadow moulding – how light falls on a three dimensional object
- it has come to mean contrast, black and white

conventual – of the convent – same origin as conventional and convention
insouiance – carefree. Dinetta’s definition is better really – as it is an updated version of this 1930’s dictionary definition.
vargamor – a woman who consorts with wolves. this word is very rare and relates mainly to fantasies where the woman gives wise advice but does not get involved in violence. most dictionaries don’t have it at all.

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Date: 11/04/2011 09:43:01
From: Dinetta
ID: 127699
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Interesting…will have to consult the dictionary re the roots of “convent”…in fact I’ll have to look most of those words up..I do believe you with the meanings but I like to see the roots as well…

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Date: 11/04/2011 09:44:17
From: Dinetta
ID: 127700
Subject: re: Words - 2011

My jacaranda is still dropping a blossom here and there…started flowering early last year…hope this is not a “final fling” as I rely on it plus the Doolan tree close by, to provide shade for the summer lettuce bed…

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Date: 11/04/2011 19:18:09
From: pain master
ID: 127734
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


conventual

that be sex between a Nun and Priest when even the Good Lord says its Okay…

oh I am going to hell for that one…. again.

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Date: 11/04/2011 19:48:18
From: bubba louie
ID: 127735
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


pepe said:

conventual

that be sex between a Nun and Priest when even the Good Lord says its Okay…

oh I am going to hell for that one…. again.

You’ve been there before????????????????

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Date: 11/04/2011 20:00:02
From: pepe
ID: 127736
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pain master said:


pepe said:

conventual

that be sex between a Nun and Priest when even the Good Lord says its Okay…
oh I am going to hell for that one…. again.

chuckle

the sibilant ‘s’ is missing – consenual

however you are right about monks and nuns being the only inhabitants of a convent.

whether HE checks on such things is beyond the scope of my networking ability.

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Date: 11/04/2011 20:02:19
From: Dinetta
ID: 127737
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bubba louie said:


pain master said:

pepe said:

conventual

that be sex between a Nun and Priest when even the Good Lord says its Okay…

oh I am going to hell for that one…. again.

You’ve been there before????????????????

Why do you sound surprised?????

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Date: 11/04/2011 20:03:59
From: Dinetta
ID: 127738
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


pain master said:

pepe said:

conventual

that be sex between a Nun and Priest when even the Good Lord says its Okay…
oh I am going to hell for that one…. again.

chuckle

the sibilant ‘s’ is missing – consenual

however you are right about monks and nuns being the only inhabitants of a convent.

whether HE checks on such things is beyond the scope of my networking ability.

Oh you are in fine form tonight, Pepe! The result of a Red or a White? Or maybe even a smooth, well-aged Port???

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Date: 11/04/2011 20:21:35
From: pepe
ID: 127740
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


pepe said:

pain master said:

that be sex between a Nun and Priest when even the Good Lord says its Okay…
oh I am going to hell for that one…. again.

chuckle

the sibilant ‘s’ is missing – consenual

however you are right about monks and nuns being the only inhabitants of a convent.

whether HE checks on such things is beyond the scope of my networking ability.

Oh you are in fine form tonight, Pepe! The result of a Red or a White? Or maybe even a smooth, well-aged Port???

…maybe medically prescribed hormonal steroids – who knows these days?

i have a theory that the whole collingwood footy team is performing too high – wink wink – if you know what i mean.

what was the topic?
doesn’t AnneS have to give us a mystery word next?

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Date: 12/04/2011 11:56:52
From: Yeehah
ID: 127793
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:

“Someone should give a lecture on the tenebrous chiaroscuro of renaissance painters”

tenebrous and chiaroscuro

Gawd.

Tenebrous … no bluddy idea so here’s my stream of consciousness … tenet … tenuous … inebriate … ous/ious as a suffix … ummmmmm … how about
“possibility of …”

Chiaroscuro …. chiaro might be something to do with love and scuro might be something to do with hiding something (I’m thinking “obscure”) … no idea, but how about
“hiding love messages in strange places” ???

So maybe somebody has a theory that the renaissance painters had a little unwritten “in-thing” or “in-joke” about putting little love messages in their paintings in symbol form ????

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Date: 12/04/2011 11:58:27
From: Yeehah
ID: 127794
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:

miles off – but someone will know – i’m guessing one of the arty types. thanks for your honest attempt tho’ – when one of our word gurus is wrong i know i have set a tough challenge.

Well, I like words but am NOT arty, lol!

My attempt was an admission that I know sod-all so had a go at humour instead ;)

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Date: 12/04/2011 13:34:06
From: Yeehah
ID: 127795
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


three more – less art more feminism this time

conventual

insoucience

vargamor

Sorry, flat out reading, no time for posting ;)

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Date: 12/04/2011 13:43:33
From: Dinetta
ID: 127796
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


three more – less art more feminism this time

conventual

insoucience

vargamor

Oooh, I can see now, the “feminism” reference was a clue for the first and third words…

I saw another word last night but I’ll bet you’re all grateful that I forgot to note it for this thread…

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Date: 4/05/2011 08:41:35
From: Dinetta
ID: 129328
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Can’t find Pepe’s Words thread, this will have to do…

The other night, I saw where Sharlene in The Biggest Loser, says that some have accused her of being a “psycho mum”. Now, without debate as to whether this mother of a cerebal palsy child is or isn’t, what does “psycho mum” mean? I’m guessing it’s a step further than “hover mum” and “helicopter mum”?

Have Gooooooooooogled but all I get are references to the book and movie, “Psycho”…

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Date: 4/05/2011 08:48:32
From: trichome
ID: 129331
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Can’t find Pepe’s Words thread, this will have to do…

a “psycho mum”. ..

Definition of PSYCHOTIC

of, relating to, marked by, or affected with psychosis, a psychotic patient, psychotic behavior.

Synonyms: balmy, barmy , bats, batty, bedlam, bonkers, brainsick, bughouse , certifiable, crackbrained, cracked, crackers, crackpot, cranky , crazed, crazy, cuckoo, daffy, daft, demented, deranged, fruity , gaga, haywire, kooky (also kookie), loco , loony (also looney), loony tunes (or looney tunes), lunatic, mad, maniacal (also maniac), mental, meshuga (or meshugge also meshugah or meshuggah), moonstruck, non compos mentis, nuts, nutty, psycho, insane, scatty , screwy, unbalanced, unhinged, unsound, wacko (also whacko), wacky (also whacky), wud

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Date: 4/05/2011 08:54:38
From: trichome
ID: 129334
Subject: re: Words - 2011

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=psychotic+mother

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Date: 4/05/2011 08:56:22
From: Dinetta
ID: 129335
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Dinetta said:

Can’t find Pepe’s Words thread, this will have to do…

a “psycho mum”. ..

Definition of PSYCHOTIC

of, relating to, marked by, or affected with psychosis, a psychotic patient, psychotic behavior.

Synonyms: kooky (also kookie),

Well the kids describe me as “crazy mumma” but that’s because I often had a novel way of meting discipline or ensuring desirable behaviour. As opposed to a lot of the conservative mothers in the kid’s various groups. Nobody would describe me as psychotic in any way. Weird or a fruitcake maybe.

I’m wondering if the term might refer to somebody who is selfishly manipulative, with no regard for what others in the group may wish to happen? Just talking about the phrase here, nobody in particular…

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Date: 4/05/2011 08:58:25
From: trichome
ID: 129336
Subject: re: Words - 2011

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=psycho+mum

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Date: 4/05/2011 09:00:21
From: trichome
ID: 129337
Subject: re: Words - 2011

http://ojar.com/view_27337.htm

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Date: 4/05/2011 09:01:29
From: Dinetta
ID: 129338
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


https://duckduckgo.com/?q=psychotic+mother

Thanks Trichome, that rounds it out a bit more… I think, in some cases, the term “psychotic” may be used rather loosely (and hurtfully). With an emotive word like “mother”, one should really have the appropriate qualifications before applying “psycho” as an adjective…

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Date: 4/05/2011 09:03:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 129340
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=psychotic+mother

Thanks Trichome, that rounds it out a bit more… I think, in some cases, the term “psychotic” may be used rather loosely (and hurtfully). With an emotive word like “mother”, one should really have the appropriate qualifications before applying “psycho” as an adjective…


probably better to call mum psycho than manaya la putana

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Date: 4/05/2011 09:05:13
From: Dinetta
ID: 129342
Subject: re: Words - 2011

roughbarked said:

probably better to call mum psycho than manaya la putana

Which means??? Our dog is named Puta…we were told it was Portuguese for “girl dog” but have since found out that it is commonly used as a Latino swear word…

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Date: 4/05/2011 09:06:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 129344
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


roughbarked said:

probably better to call mum psycho than manaya la putana

Which means??? Our dog is named Puta…we were told it was Portuguese for “girl dog” but have since found out that it is commonly used as a Latino swear word…

Loosely it means something like: your mother is a whore..
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Date: 4/05/2011 09:09:02
From: Dinetta
ID: 129346
Subject: re: Words - 2011

roughbarked said:


Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

probably better to call mum psycho than manaya la putana

Which means??? Our dog is named Puta…we were told it was Portuguese for “girl dog” but have since found out that it is commonly used as a Latino swear word…

Loosely it means something like: your mother is a whore..

That’s a point…

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Date: 4/05/2011 11:31:15
From: bon008
ID: 129352
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

Dinetta said:

Can’t find Pepe’s Words thread, this will have to do…

a “psycho mum”. ..

Definition of PSYCHOTIC

of, relating to, marked by, or affected with psychosis, a psychotic patient, psychotic behavior.

Synonyms: kooky (also kookie),

Well the kids describe me as “crazy mumma” but that’s because I often had a novel way of meting discipline or ensuring desirable behaviour. As opposed to a lot of the conservative mothers in the kid’s various groups. Nobody would describe me as psychotic in any way. Weird or a fruitcake maybe.

I’m wondering if the term might refer to somebody who is selfishly manipulative, with no regard for what others in the group may wish to happen? Just talking about the phrase here, nobody in particular…

Well, on selfishly manipulative, I came across this link on a parenting forum yesterday:

http://parrishmiller.com/narcissists.html

About narcissistic mothers. Holy moly, I have never felt more grateful for my mother. Unbelievable what some people have to go through =/

I’ve never heard the phrase “psycho mum” before, though.

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Date: 4/05/2011 12:30:50
From: Dinetta
ID: 129360
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Thanks for the input Bon…I can see my mother and a few others in that article…not all the traits but quite a few…

Having looked up “psyche” in the dictionary, and come up with “soul, spirit, mind” (it’s also a moth, did you know that?) I’ve come to the conclusion that a “psycho mum” is one who over-controls her family

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Date: 4/05/2011 13:46:47
From: bubba louie
ID: 129364
Subject: re: Words - 2011

roughbarked said:


Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

probably better to call mum psycho than manaya la putana

Which means??? Our dog is named Puta…we were told it was Portuguese for “girl dog” but have since found out that it is commonly used as a Latino swear word…

Loosely it means something like: your mother is a whore..

I used to be able to swear in Finnish but I’ve forgotten it all. Not very useful anyway.

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Date: 4/05/2011 13:53:47
From: bubba louie
ID: 129365
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Thanks for the input Bon…I can see my mother and a few others in that article…not all the traits but quite a few…

Having looked up “psyche” in the dictionary, and come up with “soul, spirit, mind” (it’s also a moth, did you know that?) I’ve come to the conclusion that a “psycho mum” is one who over-controls her family

My cousins wife had a champion mare named Psyche.

Just some trivia, carry on.

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Date: 4/05/2011 14:10:07
From: Dinetta
ID: 129367
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bubba louie said:


Dinetta said:

Thanks for the input Bon…I can see my mother and a few others in that article…not all the traits but quite a few…

Having looked up “psyche” in the dictionary, and come up with “soul, spirit, mind” (it’s also a moth, did you know that?) I’ve come to the conclusion that a “psycho mum” is one who over-controls her family

My cousins wife had a champion mare named Psyche.

Just some trivia, carry on.

I think we’ve pretty much winkled all we can out of this phrase! lol

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Date: 26/05/2011 09:15:06
From: Dinetta
ID: 130714
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Grimalkin

Hope the spelling is right…saw it as I was flipping thru’ my dic for the word “gurney” and no I don’t know it’s meaning…

Pepe was looking for a word to puzzle over the other day….

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Date: 26/05/2011 10:37:35
From: bon008
ID: 130723
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Grimalkin

Hope the spelling is right…saw it as I was flipping thru’ my dic for the word “gurney” and no I don’t know it’s meaning…

Pepe was looking for a word to puzzle over the other day….

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurney

Oh, and look, what I called “the trucks”, they call a hand truck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_truck

I have found Wikipedia very useful for looking up architectural terms – since the terms are used differently in different countries, Wiki will usually tell you which term means what, where.

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Date: 26/05/2011 10:40:54
From: bon008
ID: 130724
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

Grimalkin

Hope the spelling is right…saw it as I was flipping thru’ my dic for the word “gurney” and no I don’t know it’s meaning…

Pepe was looking for a word to puzzle over the other day….

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurney

Oh, and look, what I called “the trucks”, they call a hand truck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_truck

I have found Wikipedia very useful for looking up architectural terms – since the terms are used differently in different countries, Wiki will usually tell you which term means what, where.

Oh, look, I completely missed Grimalkin!

Umm. It sounds to me like a baddie from a fable, or such :) But otherwise I would guess a medieval term, maybe some kind of clothing/armour, along the line of gauntlet, etc. I’m forever coming across fancy medieval clothing terminology in fantasy books, but I’ve never been able to memorise them. Usually if I’m particularly curious, I just ask Mr Bon, as that sort of stuff tends to sink in for him.

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Date: 26/05/2011 21:35:28
From: trichome
ID: 130846
Subject: re: Words - 2011

leet ? :)

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Date: 26/05/2011 21:48:47
From: bon008
ID: 130859
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


leet ? :)

Is it a real word? :D To me it is geek speak for “elite”!

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Date: 26/05/2011 21:54:57
From: trichome
ID: 130861
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


trichome said:

leet ? :)

Is it a real word? :D To me it is geek speak for “elite”!

yeah its supposed to be :)
good one for scrabble, i came across it when loooking at the alt tag on some emoticons, looked up the meaning but it doesn’t fit :)

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Date: 27/05/2011 07:13:14
From: Dinetta
ID: 130862
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


bon008 said:

trichome said:

leet ? :)

Is it a real word? :D To me it is geek speak for “elite”!

yeah its supposed to be :)
good one for scrabble, i came across it when loooking at the alt tag on some emoticons, looked up the meaning but it doesn’t fit :)

It’s a medieval word, quite common back then, and I think it pops up in Shakespeare once or twice…

It looks like the Scottish pronunciation of “let” but I havent’ read the whole thread yet for a context (if there is one)…

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Date: 27/05/2011 07:43:20
From: Dinetta
ID: 130864
Subject: re: Words - 2011

“leet” is a verb, I’m pretty sure of that: it is not animal, vegetable or mineral. It’s one of those words that’s just a word and joins a sentence together.

Now Trichome will go and prove me wrong but that’s OK…

Grimalkin, anyone?

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Date: 27/05/2011 09:03:10
From: trichome
ID: 130869
Subject: re: Words - 2011

no don’t have it in a sentence.
leet1
n English history
1. (Historical Terms) Also called court-leet a special kind of manorial court that some lords were entitled to hold
2. (Historical Terms) the jurisdiction of this court

leet2
n
(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) Scot a list of candidates for an office

or
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/leet
Leet

Leet (or “1337”), also known as eleet or leetspeak, is an alternative alphabet for the English language that is used primarily on the Internet. It uses various combinations of ASCII characters to replace Latinate letters. For example, leet spellings of the word leet include 1337 and l33t; eleet may be spelled 31337 or 3l33t.

The term leet is derived from the word elite. The leet alphabet is a specialized form of symbolic writing. Leet may also be considered a substitution cipher, although many dialects or linguistic varieties exist in different online communities.

The term leet is also used as an adjective to describe formidable prowess or accomplishment, especially in the fields of online gaming and in its original usage, computer hacking.

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Date: 27/05/2011 09:59:36
From: Dinetta
ID: 130871
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


no don’t have it in a sentence.
leet1
n English history
1. (Historical Terms) Also called court-leet a special kind of manorial court that some lords were entitled to hold
2. (Historical Terms) the jurisdiction of this court

leet2
n
(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) Scot a list of candidates for an office

or
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/leet
Leet

Leet (or “1337”), also known as eleet or leetspeak, is an alternative alphabet for the English language that is used primarily on the Internet. It uses various combinations of ASCII characters to replace Latinate letters. For example, leet spellings of the word leet include 1337 and l33t; eleet may be spelled 31337 or 3l33t.

The term leet is derived from the word elite. The leet alphabet is a specialized form of symbolic writing. Leet may also be considered a substitution cipher, although many dialects or linguistic varieties exist in different online communities.

The term leet is also used as an adjective to describe formidable prowess or accomplishment, especially in the fields of online gaming and in its original usage, computer hacking.

So, origin-wise, it is two different words as there are two different “roots”: one is the medieval root and the other is the modern IT one, totally un-related to the medieval word.

So I was right about fact one was used in medieval times, but not about the usage itself. Can see where the medieval one came from litte (list)…wonder how the “s” snuck in lol!

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Date: 27/05/2011 10:06:00
From: trichome
ID: 130873
Subject: re: Words - 2011

yep, and bon008 got it right too :)

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Date: 27/05/2011 10:57:52
From: Dinetta
ID: 130874
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


yep, and bon008 got it right too :)

So we’re all happy chappies re the outcome lol!

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Date: 27/05/2011 12:12:03
From: bon008
ID: 130877
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


“leet” is a verb, I’m pretty sure of that: it is not animal, vegetable or mineral. It’s one of those words that’s just a word and joins a sentence together.

Now Trichome will go and prove me wrong but that’s OK…

Grimalkin, anyone?

I tried.. curiously awaiting the real definition!

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Date: 27/05/2011 12:14:10
From: bon008
ID: 130878
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


yep, and bon008 got it right too :)

Haha, hardly as impressive as knowing the “correct” version :)

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Date: 27/05/2011 12:20:37
From: bluegreen
ID: 130879
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

“leet” is a verb, I’m pretty sure of that: it is not animal, vegetable or mineral. It’s one of those words that’s just a word and joins a sentence together.

Now Trichome will go and prove me wrong but that’s OK…

Grimalkin, anyone?

I tried.. curiously awaiting the real definition!

have we had that one before? A pubic wig?

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Date: 27/05/2011 12:50:48
From: bon008
ID: 130880
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


bon008 said:

Dinetta said:

“leet” is a verb, I’m pretty sure of that: it is not animal, vegetable or mineral. It’s one of those words that’s just a word and joins a sentence together.

Now Trichome will go and prove me wrong but that’s OK…

Grimalkin, anyone?

I tried.. curiously awaiting the real definition!

have we had that one before? A pubic wig?

That’s a merkin :)

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Date: 27/05/2011 12:58:04
From: Dinetta
ID: 130881
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


bon008 said:

Dinetta said:

“leet” is a verb, I’m pretty sure of that: it is not animal, vegetable or mineral. It’s one of those words that’s just a word and joins a sentence together.

Now Trichome will go and prove me wrong but that’s OK…

Grimalkin, anyone?

I tried.. curiously awaiting the real definition!

have we had that one before? A pubic wig?

No, I know the one you mean but that’s not it…

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Date: 27/05/2011 12:58:22
From: Dinetta
ID: 130882
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


bluegreen said:

bon008 said:

I tried.. curiously awaiting the real definition!

have we had that one before? A pubic wig?

That’s a merkin :)

Yeps…

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Date: 27/05/2011 12:59:24
From: Dinetta
ID: 130883
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Waiting for Pepe to have a go, he was the one who told me it was “my turn” to put a word up…maybe we’ll have to wait until he’s finished the paving…maybe…

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Date: 27/05/2011 13:36:17
From: bubba louie
ID: 130886
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


bon008 said:

Dinetta said:

“leet” is a verb, I’m pretty sure of that: it is not animal, vegetable or mineral. It’s one of those words that’s just a word and joins a sentence together.

Now Trichome will go and prove me wrong but that’s OK…

Grimalkin, anyone?

I tried.. curiously awaiting the real definition!

have we had that one before? A pubic wig?

That’s a Firkin.

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Date: 27/05/2011 13:37:27
From: bubba louie
ID: 130887
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bubba louie said:


bluegreen said:

bon008 said:

I tried.. curiously awaiting the real definition!

have we had that one before? A pubic wig?

That’s a Firkin.

Correction, Merkin.

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Date: 27/05/2011 13:49:19
From: bon008
ID: 130888
Subject: re: Words - 2011

I couldn’t stand the suspense so looked the word up… Ooooh.

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Date: 27/05/2011 13:57:26
From: Dinetta
ID: 130889
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


I couldn’t stand the suspense so looked the word up… Ooooh.

Bad Bon!! lol…

I haven’t even looked it up yet! It was just on top of the dictionary page as I was flipping through…

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Date: 27/05/2011 13:59:46
From: bluegreen
ID: 130890
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


bluegreen said:

bon008 said:

I tried.. curiously awaiting the real definition!

have we had that one before? A pubic wig?

That’s a merkin :)

ahhh!

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Date: 27/05/2011 14:48:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 130892
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


bon008 said:

bluegreen said:

have we had that one before? A pubic wig?

That’s a merkin :)

ahhh!


that’s George Bush

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Date: 27/05/2011 14:51:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 130893
Subject: re: Words - 2011

George Bush was Amerkin

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Date: 27/05/2011 14:53:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 130894
Subject: re: Words - 2011

arrrgh! ,

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Date: 27/05/2011 18:13:14
From: painmaster
ID: 130908
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


bon008 said:

Dinetta said:

“leet” is a verb, I’m pretty sure of that: it is not animal, vegetable or mineral. It’s one of those words that’s just a word and joins a sentence together.

Now Trichome will go and prove me wrong but that’s OK…

Grimalkin, anyone?

I tried.. curiously awaiting the real definition!

have we had that one before? A pubic wig?

Mirkin?

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Date: 27/05/2011 18:14:23
From: painmaster
ID: 130909
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bubba louie said:


bluegreen said:

bon008 said:

I tried.. curiously awaiting the real definition!

have we had that one before? A pubic wig?

That’s a Firkin.

There’s a Pub in Adelaide called the Fox and Firkin.

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Date: 27/05/2011 18:53:39
From: trichome
ID: 130911
Subject: re: Words - 2011

painmaster said:


bubba louie said:

bluegreen said:

have we had that one before? A pubic wig?

That’s a Firkin.

There’s a Pub in Adelaide called the Fox and Firkin.

a Firkin Mirkin it is :)
oooooooooooooooooooooppppppppppppppppppppppssss :)

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Date: 27/05/2011 19:15:44
From: painmaster
ID: 130912
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


painmaster said:

bubba louie said:

That’s a Firkin.

There’s a Pub in Adelaide called the Fox and Firkin.

a Firkin Mirkin it is :)
oooooooooooooooooooooppppppppppppppppppppppssss :)

#:0)=

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Date: 27/05/2011 19:25:43
From: bubba louie
ID: 130914
Subject: re: Words - 2011

painmaster said:


bubba louie said:

bluegreen said:

have we had that one before? A pubic wig?

That’s a Firkin.

There’s a Pub in Adelaide called the Fox and Firkin.

And one in London too.

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Date: 27/05/2011 19:45:34
From: painmaster
ID: 130915
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bubba louie said:


painmaster said:

bubba louie said:

That’s a Firkin.

There’s a Pub in Adelaide called the Fox and Firkin.

And one in London too.

yeah, it was named after the one in Adelaide.

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Date: 5/06/2011 09:22:56
From: Dinetta
ID: 131624
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Bump for Pepe…

grimalkin

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Date: 5/06/2011 09:32:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 131630
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Bump for Pepe…

grimalkin

hope pepe isn’t female.

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Date: 5/06/2011 09:35:04
From: Dinetta
ID: 131631
Subject: re: Words - 2011

roughbarked said:


Dinetta said:

Bump for Pepe…

grimalkin

hope pepe isn’t female.

You are not allowed to look up the answer, you have to guess, them’s the rules…unless of course you already know the meaning from reading books, plays or poetry???

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Date: 5/06/2011 10:03:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 131634
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

Bump for Pepe…

grimalkin

hope pepe isn’t female.

You are not allowed to look up the answer, you have to guess, them’s the rules…unless of course you already know the meaning from reading books, plays or poetry???

Don’t read as much as I used to but I can still remember some of it all

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Date: 5/06/2011 16:33:48
From: pepe
ID: 131667
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Bump for Pepe…

grimalkin

no idea
sounds vaguely elfish – a gremlin in the works?

a kind of dutch clock ?
- sorry – no idea

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Date: 5/06/2011 16:37:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 131669
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


Dinetta said:

Bump for Pepe…

grimalkin

no idea
sounds vaguely elfish – a gremlin in the works?

a kind of dutch clock ?
- sorry – no idea

gee, I gave you a clue.. add old and ill tempered to that. or to some it is an old cat
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Date: 5/06/2011 16:42:06
From: pepe
ID: 131670
Subject: re: Words - 2011

roughbarked said:


pepe said:

Dinetta said:

Bump for Pepe…

grimalkin

no idea
sounds vaguely elfish – a gremlin in the works?

a kind of dutch clock ?
- sorry – no idea

gee, I gave you a clue.. add old and ill tempered to that. or to some it is an old cat

i looked it up
good word – could be handy LOL

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Date: 5/06/2011 18:01:27
From: Dinetta
ID: 131689
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Cheat!! but you did have a good guess so I’ll excuse you this time…

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Date: 5/06/2011 18:02:20
From: Dinetta
ID: 131690
Subject: re: Words - 2011

roughbarked said:


Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

hope pepe isn’t female.

You are not allowed to look up the answer, you have to guess, them’s the rules…unless of course you already know the meaning from reading books, plays or poetry???

Don’t read as much as I used to but I can still remember some of it all

You get the bouquet then…

:)

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Date: 14/06/2011 21:28:19
From: trichome
ID: 132391
Subject: re: Words - 2011

punctilious

hornblower’s captain used this one :)

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Date: 15/06/2011 07:18:02
From: Dinetta
ID: 132424
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


punctilious

hornblower’s captain used this one :)

A nice way of saying “anally retentive”…however the punctilious individual is generally more well-intentioned and better informed about his/her actions, than the anally retentive person…

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Date: 15/06/2011 10:00:52
From: trichome
ID: 132464
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

punctilious

hornblower’s captain used this one :)

A nice way of saying “anally retentive”…however the punctilious individual is generally more well-intentioned and better informed about his/her actions, than the anally retentive person…

yes something like that :)

marked by or concerned about precise accordance with the details of codes or conventions
following exactly the details of proper ways of behaving
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/punctilious

hornblower decided to keep his promise and return to the Spanish jail, but his captain wasn’t sure if his crew would as punctilious as he

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Date: 15/06/2011 10:48:08
From: Dinetta
ID: 132469
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Dinetta said:

trichome said:

punctilious

hornblower’s captain used this one :)

A nice way of saying “anally retentive”…however the punctilious individual is generally more well-intentioned and better informed about his/her actions, than the anally retentive person…

yes something like that :)

marked by or concerned about precise accordance with the details of codes or conventions
following exactly the details of proper ways of behaving
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/punctilious

Hornblower decided to keep his promise and return to the Spanish jail, but his captain wasn’t sure if his crew would as punctilious as he

Not sure if that’s the proper usage there, but it looks like an ironic comment so is OK….(by me)

:D

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Date: 15/06/2011 10:57:04
From: bon008
ID: 132477
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


punctilious

hornblower’s captain used this one :)

Oh gosh, then I should know it! Was he saying it reference to a damned sea lawyer?? :D

Punctilious – I would guess someone who quibbles unnecessarily about small, unimportant details, and gets in the way of those chasing the big picture.

I’m reading a different naval series at the moment (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/d/david-donachie/ – John Pearce series). It’s making me miss Hornblower, because there’s no one in it (so far) who you warm to like Hornblower or Pellew.

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Date: 15/06/2011 11:02:37
From: bon008
ID: 132481
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

punctilious

hornblower’s captain used this one :)

A nice way of saying “anally retentive”…however the punctilious individual is generally more well-intentioned and better informed about his/her actions, than the anally retentive person…

Haha.. so maybe in my response I’ve included the sort of judgemental tone that I imagine a captain would have in mind if he used the word? :D

Trichome, when we finish guessing, could you please type in the context where it is used? I’m intrigued :) Love Hornblower :):)

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Date: 15/06/2011 11:07:48
From: bon008
ID: 132483
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Dinetta said:

trichome said:

punctilious

hornblower’s captain used this one :)

A nice way of saying “anally retentive”…however the punctilious individual is generally more well-intentioned and better informed about his/her actions, than the anally retentive person…

yes something like that :)

marked by or concerned about precise accordance with the details of codes or conventions
following exactly the details of proper ways of behaving
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/punctilious

hornblower decided to keep his promise and return to the Spanish jail, but his captain wasn’t sure if his crew would as punctilious as he

Oh, was that when they dashed out to rescue people from a shipwreck? Was that in Spain? Oh, it’s been too long!

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Date: 15/06/2011 11:15:32
From: trichome
ID: 132484
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


trichome said:

punctilious

hornblower’s captain used this one :)

Oh gosh, then I should know it! Was he saying it reference to a damned sea lawyer?? :D

Punctilious – I would guess someone who quibbles unnecessarily about small, unimportant details, and gets in the way of those chasing the big picture.

I’m reading a different naval series at the moment (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/d/david-donachie/ – John Pearce series). It’s making me miss Hornblower, because there’s no one in it (so far) who you warm to like Hornblower or Pellew.

no not as reference to a sea lawyer
hornblower decided to keep his promise and return to the Spanish jail, but his captain wasn’t sure if his crew would as punctilious as he
it is in episode 3 currently on iview

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Date: 15/06/2011 11:16:20
From: trichome
ID: 132485
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Oh, was that when they dashed out to rescue people from a shipwreck? Was that in Spain? Oh, it’s been too long!

yes that is it :)

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Date: 15/06/2011 12:29:06
From: bon008
ID: 132486
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Oh, was that when they dashed out to rescue people from a shipwreck? Was that in Spain? Oh, it’s been too long!

yes that is it :)

Thanks trichome :)

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Date: 30/06/2011 17:06:47
From: Dinetta
ID: 133954
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Is this a word or a typo?

amygdala

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Date: 30/06/2011 17:34:32
From: trichome
ID: 133955
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Is this a word or a typo?

amygdala

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdala

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Date: 1/07/2011 11:51:02
From: bon008
ID: 134012
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Is this a word or a typo?

amygdala

Oh, I’m way too late, but I know this one! Although I know it from a movie so it may not be too accurate.

Part of the brain – “the erotic nose-brain” according to the movie, which links smells to memories. But I’m sure I’ve heard of it elsewhere as just being a primitive part of the brain, doing automatic primal type stuff.

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Date: 1/07/2011 14:03:53
From: Dinetta
ID: 134023
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

Is this a word or a typo?

amygdala

Oh, I’m way too late, but I know this one! Although I know it from a movie so it may not be too accurate.

Part of the brain – “the erotic nose-brain” according to the movie, which links smells to memories. But I’m sure I’ve heard of it elsewhere as just being a primitive part of the brain, doing automatic primal type stuff.

This is good, thanks Bon…I did look up the link provided by Trichome but became completely befuddled…will see if I can find the ABC Drum article that it was mentioned in…

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Date: 3/07/2011 16:53:22
From: Dinetta
ID: 134165
Subject: re: Words - 2011

OK Bon, try here

Type amygdala into the Edit>Find and you will see where it has been used…

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Date: 3/07/2011 18:12:03
From: bon008
ID: 134171
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


OK Bon, try here

Type amygdala into the Edit>Find and you will see where it has been used…

Gee, that’s a bit of a long bow! Scientific studies on the link between brain structures/activity and political orientation are fascinating, though.

This is the quote from the movie where I learnt the term:
Jane : I want my erotic nose-brain removed.
Doc : I beg your pardon?
Jane : My amygdala, the organ deep inside the nasal cavity, which processes scent which then connects to memory. I’d like it extracted.
Doc : But why would you want to voluntarily make yourself anosmatic?
Jane : Let me see if I can explain this. Um, I had this boyfriend. Ok. And he smelled really, really good. Like soap and fresh laundry and vanilla. And every time I smell any of those smells, I’m reminded of my boyfriend and how happy we were before he dumped me for no good reason. And I get very sad and then I get angry, and before I know it, I’m in the throes of an all-out emotional breakdown!

(It’s a chick flick :D)

http://www.petermanseye.com/curiosities/news/526-amygdala

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Date: 3/07/2011 18:31:13
From: Dinetta
ID: 134175
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

OK Bon, try here

Type amygdala into the Edit>Find and you will see where it has been used…

Gee, that’s a bit of a long bow! Scientific studies on the link between brain structures/activity and political orientation are fascinating, though.

This is the quote from the movie where I learnt the term:
Jane : I want my erotic nose-brain removed.
Doc : I beg your pardon?
Jane : My amygdala, the organ deep inside the nasal cavity, which processes scent which then connects to memory. I’d like it extracted.
Doc : But why would you want to voluntarily make yourself anosmatic?
Jane : Let me see if I can explain this. Um, I had this boyfriend. Ok. And he smelled really, really good. Like soap and fresh laundry and vanilla. And every time I smell any of those smells, I’m reminded of my boyfriend and how happy we were before he dumped me for no good reason. And I get very sad and then I get angry, and before I know it, I’m in the throes of an all-out emotional breakdown!

(It’s a chick flick :D)

http://www.petermanseye.com/curiosities/news/526-amygdala

LOL!

Thanks Bon, becoming more clear with every post…

:D

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Date: 7/07/2011 11:54:42
From: bon008
ID: 134448
Subject: re: Words - 2011

More on the amygdala..

http://www.watoday.com.au/lifestyle/lifematters/im-not-racist-but-20110706-1h2g3.html

Just came across this while browsing the paper.

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Date: 14/07/2011 16:58:57
From: Dinetta
ID: 134919
Subject: re: Words - 2011

milquetoast

Don’t go looking it up, I haven’t yet…

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Date: 14/07/2011 17:36:12
From: trichome
ID: 134920
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


milquetoast

Don’t go looking it up, I haven’t yet…

french toast ? or is it Italian toast a milque e la toaste ?

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Date: 14/07/2011 17:46:19
From: Dinetta
ID: 134922
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


Dinetta said:

milquetoast

Don’t go looking it up, I haven’t yet…

french toast ? or is it Italian toast a milque e la toaste ?

Might be made-up…hard to tell…

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Date: 14/07/2011 18:08:10
From: trichome
ID: 134923
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

Dinetta said:

milquetoast

Don’t go looking it up, I haven’t yet…

french toast ? or is it Italian toast a milque e la toaste ?

Might be made-up…hard to tell…

i know i made that up :)

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Date: 15/07/2011 12:29:01
From: bon008
ID: 134940
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


milquetoast

Don’t go looking it up, I haven’t yet…

Oh man, I’m sure I used to know this one. No idea now. On a tangent – is it the name of a band? :)

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Date: 15/07/2011 12:43:41
From: Dinetta
ID: 134945
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

milquetoast

Don’t go looking it up, I haven’t yet…

Oh man, I’m sure I used to know this one. No idea now. On a tangent – is it the name of a band? :)

Nope, used as a noun in this context, but not a name noun…

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Date: 15/07/2011 13:03:03
From: pepe
ID: 134949
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

milquetoast

Don’t go looking it up, I haven’t yet…

Oh man, I’m sure I used to know this one. No idea now. On a tangent – is it the name of a band? :)

never seen it or anything like it before.
it has a goth quirkiness about it – i’ll say it’s a vampires breakfast.

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Date: 15/07/2011 13:24:22
From: bon008
ID: 134952
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


bon008 said:

Dinetta said:

milquetoast

Don’t go looking it up, I haven’t yet…

Oh man, I’m sure I used to know this one. No idea now. On a tangent – is it the name of a band? :)

Nope, used as a noun in this context, but not a name noun…

Ooh, I just looked it up. And I worked out why I thought it was a band – it’s actually the name of a song on a soundtrack I have. Have seen it pop up on the media player a few times. So I never actually knew the meaning – it just felt familiar to me because of the song.

:)

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Date: 15/07/2011 13:46:27
From: Dinetta
ID: 134954
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

bon008 said:

Oh man, I’m sure I used to know this one. No idea now. On a tangent – is it the name of a band? :)

Nope, used as a noun in this context, but not a name noun…

Ooh, I just looked it up. And I worked out why I thought it was a band – it’s actually the name of a song on a soundtrack I have. Have seen it pop up on the media player a few times. So I never actually knew the meaning – it just felt familiar to me because of the song.

:)

You’ve not got much patience, have you?

OK, the serious contenders: you, me and Pepe have all had a go…well I haven’t but I put it up…

Will look it up in the online dictionary and put up the URL (I hope) for the article where I saw it…

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Date: 15/07/2011 13:48:59
From: Dinetta
ID: 134956
Subject: re: Words - 2011

OK Go here

and type milquetoast into the Find>Search

the context doesn’t really give a meaning to the term…

Off to google the meaning…

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Date: 15/07/2011 13:53:40
From: Dinetta
ID: 134957
Subject: re: Words - 2011

OK, it means weak, spineless person…as in wimp…

In the Georgette Heyer books, this would equate to “milksop”…

Thanks to all for their interest…

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Date: 15/07/2011 14:26:50
From: bon008
ID: 134959
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


bon008 said:

Dinetta said:

Nope, used as a noun in this context, but not a name noun…

Ooh, I just looked it up. And I worked out why I thought it was a band – it’s actually the name of a song on a soundtrack I have. Have seen it pop up on the media player a few times. So I never actually knew the meaning – it just felt familiar to me because of the song.

:)

You’ve not got much patience, have you?

OK, the serious contenders: you, me and Pepe have all had a go…well I haven’t but I put it up…

Will look it up in the online dictionary and put up the URL (I hope) for the article where I saw it…

Hehe :) Well I knew I was never going to come up with a guess – I didn’t get a vibe from it and it’s not the kind of word you can break down into constituent parts (I can say that, having looking it up!!).

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Date: 15/07/2011 14:27:31
From: bon008
ID: 134960
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


OK, it means weak, spineless person…as in wimp…

In the Georgette Heyer books, this would equate to “milksop”…

Thanks to all for their interest…

Excellent word, thanks Dinetta :)

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Date: 15/07/2011 14:33:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 134961
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

OK, it means weak, spineless person…as in wimp…

In the Georgette Heyer books, this would equate to “milksop”…

Thanks to all for their interest…

Excellent word, thanks Dinetta :)

I sat back and watched this one.. because to me it meant what happened when you dunked your toast in your milky tea..

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Date: 15/07/2011 14:58:40
From: trichome
ID: 134962
Subject: re: Words - 2011

yes i was very surprised with the meaning of this word, wonder how it came about? :)

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Date: 15/07/2011 15:35:16
From: bon008
ID: 134964
Subject: re: Words - 2011

trichome said:


yes i was very surprised with the meaning of this word, wonder how it came about? :)

According to Wikipedia: It is derived from the character Caspar Milquetoast from the 1924 comic strip The Timid Soul.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspar_Milquetoast for more info.

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Date: 15/07/2011 17:29:35
From: pomolo
ID: 134968
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


bon008 said:

Dinetta said:

milquetoast

Don’t go looking it up, I haven’t yet…

Oh man, I’m sure I used to know this one. No idea now. On a tangent – is it the name of a band? :)

never seen it or anything like it before.
it has a goth quirkiness about it – i’ll say it’s a vampires breakfast.

If that’s the case it must be Milquetoast dipped in blood sauce.

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Date: 15/07/2011 17:43:13
From: Dinetta
ID: 134970
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pomolo said:


pepe said:

bon008 said:

Oh man, I’m sure I used to know this one. No idea now. On a tangent – is it the name of a band? :)

never seen it or anything like it before.
it has a goth quirkiness about it – i’ll say it’s a vampires breakfast.

If that’s the case it must be Milquetoast dipped in blood sauce.

Now that’s imagery for you…

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Date: 15/07/2011 17:44:57
From: Dinetta
ID: 134971
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

bon008 said:

Ooh, I just looked it up. And I worked out why I thought it was a band – it’s actually the name of a song on a soundtrack I have. Have seen it pop up on the media player a few times. So I never actually knew the meaning – it just felt familiar to me because of the song.

:)

You’ve not got much patience, have you?

OK, the serious contenders: you, me and Pepe have all had a go…well I haven’t but I put it up…

Will look it up in the online dictionary and put up the URL (I hope) for the article where I saw it…

Hehe :) Well I knew I was never going to come up with a guess – I didn’t get a vibe from it and it’s not the kind of word you can break down into constituent parts (I can say that, having looking it up!!).

To me it looked like “milk (and) toast”, but not being familiar with that foodstuff I was even less aware of the connotation…

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Date: 15/07/2011 17:45:57
From: Dinetta
ID: 134972
Subject: re: Words - 2011

roughbarked said:


bon008 said:

Dinetta said:

OK, it means weak, spineless person…as in wimp…

In the Georgette Heyer books, this would equate to “milksop”…

Thanks to all for their interest…

Excellent word, thanks Dinetta :)

I sat back and watched this one.. because to me it meant what happened when you dunked your toast in your milky tea..

Your toast fell in your tea, I should think! lol

It would be so weak after soaking up all that fluid…

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Date: 15/07/2011 20:35:02
From: pepe
ID: 134976
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pomolo said:


pepe said:

bon008 said:

Oh man, I’m sure I used to know this one. No idea now. On a tangent – is it the name of a band? :)

never seen it or anything like it before.
it has a goth quirkiness about it – i’ll say it’s a vampires breakfast.

If that’s the case it must be Milquetoast dipped in blood sauce.

it was wrong anyways – actually it means the opposite – ‘wimp’ or milksop.
good word – well done dinetta
(is dinetta a word? – goes to look it up)

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Date: 16/07/2011 10:01:09
From: Dinetta
ID: 134980
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


it was wrong anyways – actually it means the opposite – ‘wimp’ or milksop.
good word – well done dinetta
(is dinetta a word? – goes to look it up)

Dinetta was an ID thrown up for me when I first applied to be a (free) online subscriber to The New York Times, back in 2001…when TNYT was a wonderful internet resource…

I think it refers to dinette, which is a kind of diner but much smaller? For a while there I thought it was similar to kitchenette…the word looks very Italian to me but Eytie I ain’t, being rather Scottish in appearance…reddish hair et al…

I’m glad everybody liked the word “milquetoast”, I seem to have put up a few duds lately…

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Date: 16/07/2011 10:25:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 134981
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


pepe said:

it was wrong anyways – actually it means the opposite – ‘wimp’ or milksop.
good word – well done dinetta
(is dinetta a word? – goes to look it up)

Dinetta was an ID thrown up for me when I first applied to be a (free) online subscriber to The New York Times, back in 2001…when TNYT was a wonderful internet resource…

I think it refers to dinette, which is a kind of diner but much smaller? For a while there I thought it was similar to kitchenette…the word looks very Italian to me but Eytie I ain’t, being rather Scottish in appearance…reddish hair et al…

I’m glad everybody liked the word “milquetoast”, I seem to have put up a few duds lately…

duds, finally put mine on, might try some gardnin’ stuff if my back lets me.

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Date: 16/07/2011 19:40:34
From: pepe
ID: 135001
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


pepe said:

it was wrong anyways – actually it means the opposite – ‘wimp’ or milksop.
good word – well done dinetta
(is dinetta a word? – goes to look it up)

Dinetta was an ID thrown up for me when I first applied to be a (free) online subscriber to The New York Times, back in 2001…when TNYT was a wonderful internet resource…

I think it refers to dinette, which is a kind of diner but much smaller? For a while there I thought it was similar to kitchenette…the word looks very Italian to me but Eytie I ain’t, being rather Scottish in appearance…reddish hair et al…

I’m glad everybody liked the word “milquetoast”, I seem to have put up a few duds lately…

dinetta is such a sticcato sound that it would make a good detective name – ‘Susanne Dinetta’

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Date: 20/07/2011 12:03:19
From: Dinetta
ID: 135177
Subject: re: Words - 2011

consigliore

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Date: 20/07/2011 12:04:21
From: Dinetta
ID: 135178
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


consigliore

Apparently this is a mis-spelling, and it should be “consigliere”…

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Date: 20/07/2011 13:51:23
From: trichome
ID: 135182
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


Dinetta said:

consigliore

Apparently this is a mis-spelling, and it should be “consigliere”…

is that English ? :)

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Date: 20/07/2011 14:54:25
From: bon008
ID: 135183
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


consigliore

Holy moly. Umm. Is it Italian? That’s all I’ve got!

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Date: 20/07/2011 15:01:42
From: Dinetta
ID: 135185
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

consigliore

Holy moly. Umm. Is it Italian? That’s all I’ve got!

Well these days they don’t italicise or use quotation marks when using a foreign word…

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Date: 21/07/2011 13:12:16
From: pepe
ID: 135225
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Dinetta said:


consigliore

consign ? a person who consigns
the quarter master, accountant or librarian.

don’t know but that’s my guess
(atrophy is a great word – in physics it means that everything trends towards chaos).

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Date: 21/07/2011 13:48:29
From: bluegreen
ID: 135227
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


Dinetta said:

consigliore

consign ? a person who consigns
the quarter master, accountant or librarian.

don’t know but that’s my guess
(atrophy is a great word – in physics it means that everything trends towards chaos).

are you thinking of entropy? atrophy is when something wastes away, like muscles when they are not used.

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Date: 21/07/2011 13:50:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 135229
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


pepe said:

Dinetta said:

consigliore

consign ? a person who consigns
the quarter master, accountant or librarian.

don’t know but that’s my guess
(atrophy is a great word – in physics it means that everything trends towards chaos).

are you thinking of entropy? atrophy is when something wastes away, like muscles when they are not used.

:)

atrophy has low entropy
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Date: 21/07/2011 13:59:21
From: Dinetta
ID: 135230
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


Dinetta said:

consigliore

consign ? a person who consigns
the quarter master, accountant or librarian.

don’t know but that’s my guess

Close…well, along those lines…

Off to goooooooooogle atrophy, the concept of it trending towards chaos is mind-boggling…

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Date: 21/07/2011 13:59:58
From: Dinetta
ID: 135231
Subject: re: Words - 2011

roughbarked said:

:)

atrophy has low entropy

ROFL!!

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Date: 21/07/2011 14:01:45
From: pepe
ID: 135232
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


pepe said:

Dinetta said:

consigliore

consign ? a person who consigns
the quarter master, accountant or librarian.

don’t know but that’s my guess
(atrophy is a great word – in physics it means that everything trends towards chaos).

are you thinking of entropy? atrophy is when something wastes away, like muscles when they are not used.

entropy yes
good word
thanks BG,

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Date: 21/07/2011 14:15:46
From: Dinetta
ID: 135233
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:

entropy yes
good word
thanks BG,

Entropy – order and disorder

You can have fun with words here!

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Date: 21/07/2011 14:17:41
From: pepe
ID: 135234
Subject: re: Words - 2011

roughbarked said:


bluegreen said:

pepe said:

consign ? a person who consigns
the quarter master, accountant or librarian.

don’t know but that’s my guess
(atrophy is a great word – in physics it means that everything trends towards chaos).

are you thinking of entropy? atrophy is when something wastes away, like muscles when they are not used.

:)

atrophy has low entropy

ok – let me discuss this
atrophy is decay and presumably an advanced state of decay – which leads RB to think most of its energy is gone.

entropy is the second law of thermodynamics that states energy leaves a highly charged area to go to a lowly charged area – all things tend toward equilibrium.

so atrophy is advanced entropy.

i heard the word ‘entropy’ from that young professor genius fellow who is giving us our second TV lesson in er well – the stars and everything.

the word entropy is well known but not well understood i suspect. the problem with it is the well known fact that life springs from decay – as in plants and worms growing in decayed compost

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Date: 21/07/2011 14:17:53
From: bluegreen
ID: 135235
Subject: re: Words - 2011

entropy is why I have my doubts about evolution, as they are opposed.

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Date: 21/07/2011 14:21:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 135236
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

are you thinking of entropy? atrophy is when something wastes away, like muscles when they are not used.

:)

atrophy has low entropy

ok – let me discuss this
atrophy is decay and presumably an advanced state of decay – which leads RB to think most of its energy is gone.

entropy is the second law of thermodynamics that states energy leaves a highly charged area to go to a lowly charged area – all things tend toward equilibrium.

so atrophy is advanced entropy.

i heard the word ‘entropy’ from that young professor genius fellow who is giving us our second TV lesson in er well – the stars and everything.

the word entropy is well known but not well understood i suspect. the problem with it is the well known fact that life springs from decay – as in plants and worms growing in decayed compost

hmm, yeah but I was referring more to the fact that a pile of loose sand has high entropy and a pile of compressed sand has low entropy. in the case of atrophy, it refers more to the wasting of a consolidated form.. ie: a sandcastle.. = low entropy.. or do I still have it arse about tit?

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Date: 21/07/2011 14:29:26
From: pepe
ID: 135239
Subject: re: Words - 2011

hmm, yeah but I was referring more to the fact that a pile of loose sand has high entropy and a pile of compressed sand has low entropy.
in the case of atrophy, it refers more to the wasting of a consolidated form.. ie: a sandcastle.. = low entropy.. or do I still have it arse about tit?

——————————————

sandcastle represents order – sand compacted into a highly ordered state …..

……..with a high tendency to disintegrate ………………. which means?

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Date: 21/07/2011 14:30:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 135241
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


hmm, yeah but I was referring more to the fact that a pile of loose sand has high entropy and a pile of compressed sand has low entropy.
in the case of atrophy, it refers more to the wasting of a consolidated form.. ie: a sandcastle.. = low entropy.. or do I still have it arse about tit?

——————————————

sandcastle represents order – sand compacted into a highly ordered state …..

……..with a high tendency to disintegrate ………………. which means?

;) don’t stop there ;)

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Date: 21/07/2011 14:33:37
From: pepe
ID: 135242
Subject: re: Words - 2011

roughbarked said:


pepe said:

hmm, yeah but I was referring more to the fact that a pile of loose sand has high entropy and a pile of compressed sand has low entropy.
in the case of atrophy, it refers more to the wasting of a consolidated form.. ie: a sandcastle.. = low entropy.. or do I still have it arse about tit?

——————————————

sandcastle represents order – sand compacted into a highly ordered state …..

……..with a high tendency to disintegrate ………………. which means?

;) don’t stop there ;)

i think?…. if it is highly ordered now … it has high entropy

(not sure though)

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Date: 21/07/2011 14:47:28
From: bluegreen
ID: 135243
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


roughbarked said:

pepe said:

hmm, yeah but I was referring more to the fact that a pile of loose sand has high entropy and a pile of compressed sand has low entropy.
in the case of atrophy, it refers more to the wasting of a consolidated form.. ie: a sandcastle.. = low entropy.. or do I still have it arse about tit?

——————————————

sandcastle represents order – sand compacted into a highly ordered state …..

……..with a high tendency to disintegrate ………………. which means?

;) don’t stop there ;)

i think?…. if it is highly ordered now … it has high entropy

(not sure though)

I think that an ordered state is in a state of low entropy while the disordered state has high entropy. I don’t think it is a measurement of potential such as you would measure kinetic energy.

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Date: 21/07/2011 15:02:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 135245
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


pepe said:

roughbarked said:

;) don’t stop there ;)

i think?…. if it is highly ordered now … it has high entropy

(not sure though)

I think that an ordered state is in a state of low entropy while the disordered state has high entropy. I don’t think it is a measurement of potential such as you would measure kinetic energy.

;) ah but it is or isn’t the gravity of the situation? ;)

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Date: 21/07/2011 15:09:48
From: bluegreen
ID: 135246
Subject: re: Words - 2011

roughbarked said:


bluegreen said:

pepe said:

i think?…. if it is highly ordered now … it has high entropy

(not sure though)

I think that an ordered state is in a state of low entropy while the disordered state has high entropy. I don’t think it is a measurement of potential such as you would measure kinetic energy.

;) ah but it is or isn’t the gravity of the situation? ;)

gravity is a form of energy or work. Work is needed to move something from a state of high entropy to a state of low entropy. Without work all things tend towards a high entropy (chaos.)

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Date: 21/07/2011 15:17:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 135247
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

I think that an ordered state is in a state of low entropy while the disordered state has high entropy. I don’t think it is a measurement of potential such as you would measure kinetic energy.

;) ah but it is or isn’t the gravity of the situation? ;)

gravity is a form of energy or work. Work is needed to move something from a state of high entropy to a state of low entropy. Without work all things tend towards a high entropy (chaos.)

and atrophy is a result of a lack of work.

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Date: 21/07/2011 15:18:54
From: bluegreen
ID: 135248
Subject: re: Words - 2011

roughbarked said:


bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

;) ah but it is or isn’t the gravity of the situation? ;)

gravity is a form of energy or work. Work is needed to move something from a state of high entropy to a state of low entropy. Without work all things tend towards a high entropy (chaos.)

and atrophy is a result of a lack of work.

indeed :)

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Date: 21/07/2011 15:21:00
From: bluegreen
ID: 135249
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

gravity is a form of energy or work. Work is needed to move something from a state of high entropy to a state of low entropy. Without work all things tend towards a high entropy (chaos.)

and atrophy is a result of a lack of work.

indeed :)

in which case atrophy could well describe me, having no work!

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Date: 21/07/2011 15:24:20
From: Happy Potter
ID: 135251
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

and atrophy is a result of a lack of work.

indeed :)

in which case atrophy could well describe me, having no work!

lol BG!
if I don’t do my physio excercises my arm muscles could become atrophied.

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Date: 21/07/2011 15:55:38
From: pepe
ID: 135252
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

I think that an ordered state is in a state of low entropy while the disordered state has high entropy. I don’t think it is a measurement of potential such as you would measure kinetic energy.

;) ah but it is or isn’t the gravity of the situation? ;)

gravity is a form of energy or work. Work is needed to move something from a state of high entropy to a state of low entropy. Without work all things tend towards a high entropy (chaos.)

ok.

..and, in the case of evolution, are you seeing evolution as an advance – from high entropy to low entropy – or, put another way, from chaos into order?

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Date: 21/07/2011 16:40:58
From: bluegreen
ID: 135256
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:


bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

;) ah but it is or isn’t the gravity of the situation? ;)

gravity is a form of energy or work. Work is needed to move something from a state of high entropy to a state of low entropy. Without work all things tend towards a high entropy (chaos.)

ok.

..and, in the case of evolution, are you seeing evolution as an advance – from high entropy to low entropy – or, put another way, from chaos into order?

evolution proposes that advanced, highly organised, specialist organisms like ourselves, evolved from simple, unorganised unspecialised organisms such as amoeba. This to me goes against the laws of entropy where organised systems without some sort of energy or work acting on them will always move towards entropy. It seems to me that one is juxtaposed to the other.

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Date: 21/07/2011 18:23:09
From: pepe
ID: 135288
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


pepe said:

bluegreen said:

gravity is a form of energy or work. Work is needed to move something from a state of high entropy to a state of low entropy. Without work all things tend towards a high entropy (chaos.)

ok.

..and, in the case of evolution, are you seeing evolution as an advance – from high entropy to low entropy – or, put another way, from chaos into order?

evolution proposes that advanced, highly organised, specialist organisms like ourselves, evolved from simple, unorganised unspecialised organisms such as amoeba. This to me goes against the laws of entropy where organised systems without some sort of energy or work acting on them will always move towards entropy. It seems to me that one is juxtaposed to the other.

history is a series of rises and falls

the egyptian empire collapsed and was replaced by barbaric hittites, the beautiful stone sculptures of ancient greece have never been equalled, then the roman empire rose and fell, as did the gothic art, the renaissance and all the rest.
so history is a series of rises and falls – of more and less entropy. it is not a straight line towards more and more complexity.

then there is the thought – ‘ simple is strong whereas sophisticated is prone to collapse’
- do the simple survive (bluegreen algae, the crocodile) even today, whereas the complex have fallen ?
,

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Date: 21/07/2011 18:26:14
From: bluegreen
ID: 135289
Subject: re: Words - 2011

pepe said:

then there is the thought – ‘ simple is strong whereas sophisticated is prone to collapse’
- do the simple survive (bluegreen algae, the crocodile) even today, whereas the complex have fallen ?
,

that is entropy

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Date: 21/07/2011 19:27:11
From: pepe
ID: 135292
Subject: re: Words - 2011

bluegreen said:


pepe said:

then there is the thought – ‘ simple is strong whereas sophisticated is prone to collapse’
- do the simple survive (bluegreen algae, the crocodile) even today, whereas the complex have fallen ?
,

that is entropy

tricky little face changer isn’t it?

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Date: 21/07/2011 22:05:56
From: bon008
ID: 135304
Subject: re: Words - 2011

Happy Potter said:


bluegreen said:

bluegreen said:

indeed :)

in which case atrophy could well describe me, having no work!

lol BG!
if I don’t do my physio excercises my arm muscles could become atrophied.

I wish my pelvic floor would atrophy =/

(Mope mope. Nah, not really. Rehab is going quite well at the moment. Shouldn’t complain.)

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