Date: 11/07/2024 14:39:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2173653
Subject: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

There you are then…

Research on 26,000 people found those who stay up late scored better on intelligence, reasoning and memory tests.

The idea that night owls who don’t go to bed until the early hours struggle to get anything done during the day may have to be revised.

It turns out that staying up late could be good for our brain power as research suggests that people who identify as night owls could be sharper than those who go to bed early.

Researchers led by academics at Imperial College London studied data from the UK Biobank study on more than 26,000 people who had completed intelligence, reasoning, reaction time and memory tests.

They then examined how participants’ sleep duration, quality, and chronotype (which determines what time of day we feel most alert and productive) affected brain performance.

They found that those who stay up late and those classed as “intermediate” had “superior cognitive function”, while morning larks had the lowest scores.

Going to bed late is strongly associated with creative types. Artists, authors and musicians known to be night owls include Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, James Joyce, Kanye West, Lady Gaga, Bubblecar (much of the time) and sarahs mum.

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Date: 11/07/2024 15:10:35
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2173658
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

Bubblecar said:


There you are then…

Research on 26,000 people found those who stay up late scored better on intelligence, reasoning and memory tests.

The idea that night owls who don’t go to bed until the early hours struggle to get anything done during the day may have to be revised.

It turns out that staying up late could be good for our brain power as research suggests that people who identify as night owls could be sharper than those who go to bed early.

Researchers led by academics at Imperial College London studied data from the UK Biobank study on more than 26,000 people who had completed intelligence, reasoning, reaction time and memory tests.

They then examined how participants’ sleep duration, quality, and chronotype (which determines what time of day we feel most alert and productive) affected brain performance.

They found that those who stay up late and those classed as “intermediate” had “superior cognitive function”, while morning larks had the lowest scores.

Going to bed late is strongly associated with creative types. Artists, authors and musicians known to be night owls include Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, James Joyce, Kanye West, Lady Gaga, Bubblecar (much of the time) and sarahs mum.

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Yeah cop that early risers.

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Date: 11/07/2024 15:29:21
From: Michael V
ID: 2173660
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

There you are then…

Research on 26,000 people found those who stay up late scored better on intelligence, reasoning and memory tests.

The idea that night owls who don’t go to bed until the early hours struggle to get anything done during the day may have to be revised.

It turns out that staying up late could be good for our brain power as research suggests that people who identify as night owls could be sharper than those who go to bed early.

Researchers led by academics at Imperial College London studied data from the UK Biobank study on more than 26,000 people who had completed intelligence, reasoning, reaction time and memory tests.

They then examined how participants’ sleep duration, quality, and chronotype (which determines what time of day we feel most alert and productive) affected brain performance.

They found that those who stay up late and those classed as “intermediate” had “superior cognitive function”, while morning larks had the lowest scores.

Going to bed late is strongly associated with creative types. Artists, authors and musicians known to be night owls include Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, James Joyce, Kanye West, Lady Gaga, Bubblecar (much of the time) and sarahs mum.

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Yeah cop that early risers.

I can’t even begin to imagine how uncreative I’d be if I rose early.

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Date: 11/07/2024 15:47:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2173665
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

So daylight saving time must turn the state into an absolute fucking powerhouse of geniuses¡

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Date: 11/07/2024 16:01:04
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2173668
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

There you are then…

Research on 26,000 people found those who stay up late scored better on intelligence, reasoning and memory tests.

The idea that night owls who don’t go to bed until the early hours struggle to get anything done during the day may have to be revised.

It turns out that staying up late could be good for our brain power as research suggests that people who identify as night owls could be sharper than those who go to bed early.

Researchers led by academics at Imperial College London studied data from the UK Biobank study on more than 26,000 people who had completed intelligence, reasoning, reaction time and memory tests.

They then examined how participants’ sleep duration, quality, and chronotype (which determines what time of day we feel most alert and productive) affected brain performance.

They found that those who stay up late and those classed as “intermediate” had “superior cognitive function”, while morning larks had the lowest scores.

Going to bed late is strongly associated with creative types. Artists, authors and musicians known to be night owls include Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, James Joyce, Kanye West, Lady Gaga, Bubblecar (much of the time) and sarahs mum.

Full Report

Yeah cop that early risers.

I can’t even begin to imagine how uncreative I’d be if I rose early.

My boss is happy I rise early on account of being on time to work…

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Date: 11/07/2024 16:16:10
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2173673
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

hmmm this feels a little correlation v causation for me..


But while politicians such as Margaret Thatcher, Winston Churchill and Barack Obama famously seemed to thrive on little sleep, the study found that sleep duration is important for brain function, with those getting between seven and nine hours of shut-eye each night performing best in cognitive tests.

Dr Raha West, lead author and clinical research fellow at the department of surgery and cancer at Imperial College London, said: “While understanding and working with your natural sleep tendencies is essential, it’s equally important to remember to get just enough sleep, not too long or too short. This is crucial for keeping your brain healthy and functioning at its best.”

Prof Daqing Ma, the co-leader of the study who is also from Imperial’s department of surgery and cancer, added: “We found that sleep duration has a direct effect on brain function, and we believe that proactively managing sleep patterns is really important for boosting, and safeguarding, the way our brains work.

all think being equal it feels like this is suggesting that the duration and quality of your sleep is more important on conative function. The late to sleep thing is probably more related to lifestyle than anything else, that is, do you have a job that allows you to go to be at midnight and get up at 9:00am.

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Date: 11/07/2024 16:30:04
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2173676
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

diddly-squat said:

hmmm this feels a little correlation v causation for me..


But while politicians such as Margaret Thatcher, Winston Churchill and Barack Obama famously seemed to thrive on little sleep, the study found that sleep duration is important for brain function, with those getting between seven and nine hours of shut-eye each night performing best in cognitive tests.

Dr Raha West, lead author and clinical research fellow at the department of surgery and cancer at Imperial College London, said: “While understanding and working with your natural sleep tendencies is essential, it’s equally important to remember to get just enough sleep, not too long or too short. This is crucial for keeping your brain healthy and functioning at its best.”

Prof Daqing Ma, the co-leader of the study who is also from Imperial’s department of surgery and cancer, added: “We found that sleep duration has a direct effect on brain function, and we believe that proactively managing sleep patterns is really important for boosting, and safeguarding, the way our brains work.

all think being equal it feels like this is suggesting that the duration and quality of your sleep is more important on conative function. The late to sleep thing is probably more related to lifestyle than anything else, that is, do you have a job that allows you to go to be at midnight and get up at 9:00am.

I wonder if they adjusted for the fact that non-academic jobs have a high proportion requiring an early start, but academic jobs are usually a much later start, and for creative type jobs many people can start when the hell they like.

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Date: 11/07/2024 16:32:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2173677
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

The link with “creatives” also suggests we’re talking about people who are more cognitively endowed to begin with.

Being free to pursue your creative urges when the appropriate energy is there, regardless of time of day or night, is certainly important to me. And is obviously less important to those whose hours are defined for them by employers or other external conventions, and who can tolerate that kind of lifelong containment.

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Date: 11/07/2024 16:41:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 2173680
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

SCIENCE said:

So daylight saving time must turn the state into an absolute fucking powerhouse of geniuses¡

Nah. It is more like creative people naturally stay up late.

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Date: 11/07/2024 16:44:21
From: Cymek
ID: 2173683
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

So daylight saving time must turn the state into an absolute fucking powerhouse of geniuses¡

Nah. It is more like creative people naturally stay up late.

They could be dysfunctional keeping regular hours

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Date: 11/07/2024 16:51:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2173685
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

So daylight saving time must turn the state into an absolute fucking powerhouse of geniuses¡

Nah. It is more like creative people naturally stay up late.

They could be dysfunctional keeping regular hours

If you’re staying up late creating something worthwhile, or just enjoyably exploring whatever, that’s not dysfunctional.

But as sarahs mum will agree, it can be hard to avoid feeling guilty about unconventional hours.

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Date: 11/07/2024 16:52:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2173687
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

Bubblecar said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Nah. It is more like creative people naturally stay up late.

They could be dysfunctional keeping regular hours

If you’re staying up late creating something worthwhile, or just enjoyably exploring whatever, that’s not dysfunctional.

But as sarahs mum will agree, it can be hard to avoid feeling guilty about unconventional hours.

Yeah.

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Date: 11/07/2024 17:02:17
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2173691
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

They could be dysfunctional keeping regular hours

If you’re staying up late creating something worthwhile, or just enjoyably exploring whatever, that’s not dysfunctional.

But as sarahs mum will agree, it can be hard to avoid feeling guilty about unconventional hours.

Yeah.

fwiw it is normal to be either a morning or afternoon person and they suggest doing study in your wakeful periods usaually aids learning

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Date: 11/07/2024 17:05:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 2173692
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

monkey skipper said:


roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

If you’re staying up late creating something worthwhile, or just enjoyably exploring whatever, that’s not dysfunctional.

But as sarahs mum will agree, it can be hard to avoid feeling guilty about unconventional hours.

Yeah.

fwiw it is normal to be either a morning or afternoon person and they suggest doing study in your wakeful periods usaually aids learning

Whatever happened to the idea of learning while asleep?

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Date: 11/07/2024 17:06:07
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2173693
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

And there is such a thing as night shift employment so…

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Date: 11/07/2024 17:08:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 2173694
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

monkey skipper said:


And there is such a thing as night shift employment so…

Yes. Employers would hardly be keeping on with that practice if people performed badly at night shift.

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Date: 11/07/2024 17:10:40
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2173695
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

roughbarked said:


monkey skipper said:

And there is such a thing as night shift employment so…

Yes. Employers would hardly be keeping on with that practice if people performed badly at night shift.

some industries require 24/7… I have done night shift and the sunlight of morning makes it difficult to settle into sleep when you get home ime

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Date: 11/07/2024 17:11:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2173696
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

As is well known here, my sleeping hours tend to continually rotate.

I think this is caused by two main factors:

a) My urge to pursue a creative streak when it’s there, regardless of the time, which favours the wee hours and a very late bedtime.

b) Continual interruptions to this pattern caused by having to get up early for this or that appointment, which propels the sleeping into a windmill pattern.

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Date: 11/07/2024 17:12:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 2173697
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

monkey skipper said:


roughbarked said:

monkey skipper said:

And there is such a thing as night shift employment so…

Yes. Employers would hardly be keeping on with that practice if people performed badly at night shift.

some industries require 24/7… I have done night shift and the sunlight of morning makes it difficult to settle into sleep when you get home ime

I’ve done a lot of working all night in my time.

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Date: 11/07/2024 17:16:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 2173698
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

Bubblecar said:


As is well known here, my sleeping hours tend to continually rotate.

I think this is caused by two main factors:

a) My urge to pursue a creative streak when it’s there, regardless of the time, which favours the wee hours and a very late bedtime.

b) Continual interruptions to this pattern caused by having to get up early for this or that appointment, which propels the sleeping into a windmill pattern.

Maybe substitute melatonin for alcohol?

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Date: 11/07/2024 17:31:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2173703
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

As is well known here, my sleeping hours tend to continually rotate.

I think this is caused by two main factors:

a) My urge to pursue a creative streak when it’s there, regardless of the time, which favours the wee hours and a very late bedtime.

b) Continual interruptions to this pattern caused by having to get up early for this or that appointment, which propels the sleeping into a windmill pattern.

Maybe substitute melatonin for alcohol?

propofol

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Date: 11/07/2024 17:32:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2173704
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

Bubblecar said:


As is well known here, my sleeping hours tend to continually rotate.

I think this is caused by two main factors:

a) My urge to pursue a creative streak when it’s there, regardless of the time, which favours the wee hours and a very late bedtime.

b) Continual interruptions to this pattern caused by having to get up early for this or that appointment, which propels the sleeping into a windmill pattern.

And c) your pro bono work for Rat Rescue.

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Date: 11/07/2024 17:35:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2173705
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

Clearly the solution is to farm Homo sapiens in optically sealed pods and artificially light them on a cycle with period 827336859300000 times that of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of an atom of caesium-133.

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Date: 11/07/2024 17:46:41
From: Cymek
ID: 2173706
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

As is well known here, my sleeping hours tend to continually rotate.

I think this is caused by two main factors:

a) My urge to pursue a creative streak when it’s there, regardless of the time, which favours the wee hours and a very late bedtime.

b) Continual interruptions to this pattern caused by having to get up early for this or that appointment, which propels the sleeping into a windmill pattern.

And c) your pro bono work for Rat Rescue.

d) Chicken war

e) Rodney’s ghost

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Date: 11/07/2024 18:03:34
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2173711
Subject: re: Those who stay up late have better cognitive function than early risers

SCIENCE said:

Clearly the solution is to farm Homo sapiens in optically sealed pods and artificially light them on a cycle with period 827336859300000 times that of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of an atom of caesium-133.

that’s how you get gamers!

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