Date: 1/08/2024 19:34:39
From: dv
ID: 2181652
Subject: Australian politics - August 2024

Here are the results of the Federal cabinet reshuffle.

Tony Burke is now going to be a busy lad. He remains Arts minister but is also now Home Affairs and Immigration minister, while still being Leader of the House of Reps. He will no longer be Employment and Workplace relations minister.

Linda Burney has announced her intention to retire from politics and is replaced as Indigenous Australians minister by Malarndirri McCarthy.

Julie Collins retains her position as Small Business minister but is now also Agriculture minister.

Murray Watt has been moved from Agriculture to Employment and Workplace Relations.

Clare O’Neil has been moved from Home Affairs to Housing.

Bren O’Connor is retiring and has stepped down as Skills and Training minister.

Pat Conroy remains as Defence Industry Minister and Minister for the Pacific but his role has been elevated to cabinet-level.

Andrew Giles replaces O’Connor as Skills and Training minister, but this position is now no longer a cabinet-level position. Giles was previously Immigration minister.

The only new minister is Jenny McAllister, who is the new Cities and Emergency Management minister, which is not a cabinet-level position.

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Date: 1/08/2024 19:40:06
From: party_pants
ID: 2181658
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:

,,,,,as Defence Industry Minister and Minister for the Pacific but his role has been elevated to cabinet-level.

APPROVED

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Date: 1/08/2024 19:42:25
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2181659
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

party_pants said:


dv said:

,,,,,as Defence Industry Minister and Minister for the Pacific but his role has been elevated to cabinet-level.

APPROVED

cabinet maker?

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Date: 1/08/2024 19:49:04
From: party_pants
ID: 2181661
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

monkey skipper said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

,,,,,as Defence Industry Minister and Minister for the Pacific but his role has been elevated to cabinet-level.

APPROVED

cabinet maker?

No, I think we should take the Pacific islands more seriously.

I reckon eventually we should have easier travel between Australia and the Pacific Islands. Not the full EU ease of movement, but similar to what we have with NZ.

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Date: 1/08/2024 20:21:15
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2181665
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

party_pants said:


monkey skipper said:

party_pants said:

APPROVED

cabinet maker?

No, I think we should take the Pacific islands more seriously.

I reckon eventually we should have easier travel between Australia and the Pacific Islands. Not the full EU ease of movement, but similar to what we have with NZ.

umm… i have been in support of the pacific region joining the nrl bringing the sponsor to the islands and also for rugby too

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Date: 1/08/2024 20:25:15
From: party_pants
ID: 2181669
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

monkey skipper said:


party_pants said:

monkey skipper said:

cabinet maker?

No, I think we should take the Pacific islands more seriously.

I reckon eventually we should have easier travel between Australia and the Pacific Islands. Not the full EU ease of movement, but similar to what we have with NZ.

umm… i have been in support of the pacific region joining the nrl bringing the sponsor to the islands and also for rugby too

?

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Date: 1/08/2024 20:26:56
From: monkey skipper
ID: 2181670
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

party_pants said:


monkey skipper said:

party_pants said:

No, I think we should take the Pacific islands more seriously.

I reckon eventually we should have easier travel between Australia and the Pacific Islands. Not the full EU ease of movement, but similar to what we have with NZ.

umm… i have been in support of the pacific region joining the nrl bringing the sponsor to the islands and also for rugby too

?

meanin…. i give a shoot about them…

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Date: 3/08/2024 14:29:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2182193
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

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Date: 3/08/2024 14:31:46
From: party_pants
ID: 2182194
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:


That’s a bit racist.

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Date: 3/08/2024 14:37:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2182195
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:


That’s a bit racist.

Sorry forgot to a href it so here’s the link.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-03/active-clubs-white-supremecy-groups-targeting-men/104164174

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Date: 3/08/2024 14:39:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 2182196
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:


Some of your mates?

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Date: 3/08/2024 14:41:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 2182197
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:


That’s a bit racist.

Sorry forgot to a href it so here’s the link.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-03/active-clubs-white-supremecy-groups-targeting-men/104164174

Yes. About time. It is horrific that they exist but if we are tolerant we have to tolerate. The issue I believe is that young people are impressionable. That’s something Hitler capitalized on.

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Date: 3/08/2024 14:48:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2182199
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:

if we are tolerant we have to tolerate

¿¡¿¿

nah

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Date: 3/08/2024 14:52:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 2182200
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

if we are tolerant we have to tolerate

¿¡¿¿

nah

One way to tolerate is to distance from it and attempt to ignore it.

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Date: 3/08/2024 14:58:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 2182201
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

if we are tolerant we have to tolerate

¿¡¿¿

nah

One way to tolerate is to distance from it and attempt to ignore it.

Better to get in ahead of the influencers and influence your own children. This goes for communnities as well as individuals.

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Date: 3/08/2024 15:02:58
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2182204
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

if we are tolerant we have to tolerate

¿¡¿¿

nah

One way to tolerate is to distance from it and attempt to ignore it.

It’s a lot of fun when 500 counter protesters pop along to shout them down when 30 or so of these neo-nazis put on one of their street protests.

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Date: 3/08/2024 15:04:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 2182206
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

¿¡¿¿

nah

One way to tolerate is to distance from it and attempt to ignore it.

It’s a lot of fun when 500 counter protesters pop along to shout them down when 30 or so of these neo-nazis put on one of their street protests.

Yet they come out again and again.

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Date: 3/08/2024 16:08:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2182215
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6O7gHI5YKA

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Date: 3/08/2024 18:19:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2182245
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

03 August 2024
Nearly one nurse per day leaving state health system
David Killick
ANMF Tasmania Branch Secretary Emily Shepherd.
Nurses are departing the state’s public health system at a rate three times faster than they are being hired, a Mercury analysis has revealed.
Over the last four months the state’s public health system lost nearly one nurse a day and recruited two per week.
Health Minister Guy Barnett on Friday spruiked a public health hiring spree, claiming the government had stepped up the hiring of nurses since late April.
“Government continues its largest ever health recruitment blitz, employing 560 new health workers since late April, 162 of which are nurses – almost two a day,” he said.
But a Mercury analysis of four months worth of staff movements recorded in the Tasmanian Government Gazette paints a different picture.
The official record for the 121-day period reveal the hiring of 31 nurses and the departure of 105 — for a net loss of 74.
The Government Gazette shows in the period from the beginning of April to the end of July, 75 registered nurses quit the public health system and 21 were appointed.
Eight enrolled nurses left and five were hired; six nurse unit managers or assistant nurse unit managers left and two were hired; and one clinical nurse consultant arrived as 11 left.
Figures provided by the Department of Health record 162 nurse commencements between April 27 and July 26, although no indication of departures.
The Australian Nursing and Midwifery Federation on Friday claimed 15 bed closures in the Launceston General Hospital emergency department, which Mr Barnett described as “untrue”, “misleading” and “exaggerated”.
“The beds are being closed because there are not enough staff,” ANMF Tasmanian Branch Secretary Emily Shepherd said.
“Our members are exhausted and scared.
“They are so fed up with a situation that neither the Tasmanian Health Service of State Government have seen fit to neither alleviate nor put in place adequate resourcing strategies.”
Labor health spokeswoman Ella Haddad said the state’s health system was stretched.
“Health workers are under such enormous pressure, with the health system so understaffed that conditions are the most stressful they’ve been.
“The Government is claiming a recruitment blitz, but ignoring the number of people who are leaving the system, at alarming rates.
“Many workers are also reducing their hours, going part time due to how stressful their working conditions are.”
david.killick@news.com.au

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Date: 3/08/2024 18:24:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2182251
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


03 August 2024
Nearly one nurse per day leaving state health system
David Killick
ANMF Tasmania Branch Secretary Emily Shepherd.
Nurses are departing the state’s public health system at a rate three times faster than they are being hired, a Mercury analysis has revealed.
Over the last four months the state’s public health system lost nearly one nurse a day and recruited two per week.
Health Minister Guy Barnett on Friday spruiked a public health hiring spree, claiming the government had stepped up the hiring of nurses since late April.
“Government continues its largest ever health recruitment blitz, employing 560 new health workers since late April, 162 of which are nurses – almost two a day,” he said.
But a Mercury analysis of four months worth of staff movements recorded in the Tasmanian Government Gazette paints a different picture.
The official record for the 121-day period reveal the hiring of 31 nurses and the departure of 105 — for a net loss of 74.
The Government Gazette shows in the period from the beginning of April to the end of July, 75 registered nurses quit the public health system and 21 were appointed.
Eight enrolled nurses left and five were hired; six nurse unit managers or assistant nurse unit managers left and two were hired; and one clinical nurse consultant arrived as 11 left.
Figures provided by the Department of Health record 162 nurse commencements between April 27 and July 26, although no indication of departures.
The Australian Nursing and Midwifery Federation on Friday claimed 15 bed closures in the Launceston General Hospital emergency department, which Mr Barnett described as “untrue”, “misleading” and “exaggerated”.
“The beds are being closed because there are not enough staff,” ANMF Tasmanian Branch Secretary Emily Shepherd said.
“Our members are exhausted and scared.
“They are so fed up with a situation that neither the Tasmanian Health Service of State Government have seen fit to neither alleviate nor put in place adequate resourcing strategies.”
Labor health spokeswoman Ella Haddad said the state’s health system was stretched.
“Health workers are under such enormous pressure, with the health system so understaffed that conditions are the most stressful they’ve been.
“The Government is claiming a recruitment blitz, but ignoring the number of people who are leaving the system, at alarming rates.
“Many workers are also reducing their hours, going part time due to how stressful their working conditions are.”
david.killick@news.com.au

It’s getting ever crazier.

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Date: 3/08/2024 18:26:43
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2182252
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

03 August 2024
Nearly one nurse per day leaving state health system
David Killick
ANMF Tasmania Branch Secretary Emily Shepherd.
Nurses are departing the state’s public health system at a rate three times faster than they are being hired, a Mercury analysis has revealed.
Over the last four months the state’s public health system lost nearly one nurse a day and recruited two per week.
Health Minister Guy Barnett on Friday spruiked a public health hiring spree, claiming the government had stepped up the hiring of nurses since late April.
“Government continues its largest ever health recruitment blitz, employing 560 new health workers since late April, 162 of which are nurses – almost two a day,” he said.
But a Mercury analysis of four months worth of staff movements recorded in the Tasmanian Government Gazette paints a different picture.
The official record for the 121-day period reveal the hiring of 31 nurses and the departure of 105 — for a net loss of 74.
The Government Gazette shows in the period from the beginning of April to the end of July, 75 registered nurses quit the public health system and 21 were appointed.
Eight enrolled nurses left and five were hired; six nurse unit managers or assistant nurse unit managers left and two were hired; and one clinical nurse consultant arrived as 11 left.
Figures provided by the Department of Health record 162 nurse commencements between April 27 and July 26, although no indication of departures.
The Australian Nursing and Midwifery Federation on Friday claimed 15 bed closures in the Launceston General Hospital emergency department, which Mr Barnett described as “untrue”, “misleading” and “exaggerated”.
“The beds are being closed because there are not enough staff,” ANMF Tasmanian Branch Secretary Emily Shepherd said.
“Our members are exhausted and scared.
“They are so fed up with a situation that neither the Tasmanian Health Service of State Government have seen fit to neither alleviate nor put in place adequate resourcing strategies.”
Labor health spokeswoman Ella Haddad said the state’s health system was stretched.
“Health workers are under such enormous pressure, with the health system so understaffed that conditions are the most stressful they’ve been.
“The Government is claiming a recruitment blitz, but ignoring the number of people who are leaving the system, at alarming rates.
“Many workers are also reducing their hours, going part time due to how stressful their working conditions are.”
david.killick@news.com.au

It’s getting ever crazier.

I’m not sure I would want to work in such conditions. I also disagree with the govt…Launceston is not commutable from Hobart. Certainly not with a long shift.

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Date: 3/08/2024 18:27:50
From: OCDC
ID: 2182253
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

I would expect the rest of the country to be similar. I’ve had days at work when none of the rostered nurses came in.

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Date: 3/08/2024 18:28:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2182254
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

03 August 2024
Nearly one nurse per day leaving state health system
David Killick
ANMF Tasmania Branch Secretary Emily Shepherd.
Nurses are departing the state’s public health system at a rate three times faster than they are being hired, a Mercury analysis has revealed.
Over the last four months the state’s public health system lost nearly one nurse a day and recruited two per week.
Health Minister Guy Barnett on Friday spruiked a public health hiring spree, claiming the government had stepped up the hiring of nurses since late April.
“Government continues its largest ever health recruitment blitz, employing 560 new health workers since late April, 162 of which are nurses – almost two a day,” he said.
But a Mercury analysis of four months worth of staff movements recorded in the Tasmanian Government Gazette paints a different picture.
The official record for the 121-day period reveal the hiring of 31 nurses and the departure of 105 — for a net loss of 74.
The Government Gazette shows in the period from the beginning of April to the end of July, 75 registered nurses quit the public health system and 21 were appointed.
Eight enrolled nurses left and five were hired; six nurse unit managers or assistant nurse unit managers left and two were hired; and one clinical nurse consultant arrived as 11 left.
Figures provided by the Department of Health record 162 nurse commencements between April 27 and July 26, although no indication of departures.
The Australian Nursing and Midwifery Federation on Friday claimed 15 bed closures in the Launceston General Hospital emergency department, which Mr Barnett described as “untrue”, “misleading” and “exaggerated”.
“The beds are being closed because there are not enough staff,” ANMF Tasmanian Branch Secretary Emily Shepherd said.
“Our members are exhausted and scared.
“They are so fed up with a situation that neither the Tasmanian Health Service of State Government have seen fit to neither alleviate nor put in place adequate resourcing strategies.”
Labor health spokeswoman Ella Haddad said the state’s health system was stretched.
“Health workers are under such enormous pressure, with the health system so understaffed that conditions are the most stressful they’ve been.
“The Government is claiming a recruitment blitz, but ignoring the number of people who are leaving the system, at alarming rates.
“Many workers are also reducing their hours, going part time due to how stressful their working conditions are.”
david.killick@news.com.au

It’s getting ever crazier.

I’m not sure I would want to work in such conditions. I also disagree with the govt…Launceston is not commutable from Hobart. Certainly not with a long shift.

It’s a ridiculous expectation.

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Date: 3/08/2024 18:36:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2182258
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

OCDC said:


I would expect the rest of the country to be similar. I’ve had days at work when none of the rostered nurses came in.

:(

damn.

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Date: 3/08/2024 18:38:06
From: party_pants
ID: 2182259
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s getting ever crazier.

I’m not sure I would want to work in such conditions. I also disagree with the govt…Launceston is not commutable from Hobart. Certainly not with a long shift.

It’s a ridiculous expectation.

When I was in hospital, I was struck by how many of the nurses were Filipino.

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Date: 3/08/2024 18:39:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2182260
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I’m not sure I would want to work in such conditions. I also disagree with the govt…Launceston is not commutable from Hobart. Certainly not with a long shift.

It’s a ridiculous expectation.

When I was in hospital, I was struck by how many of the nurses were Filipino.

Unlikely they were daily commuting from Manila, though.

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Date: 3/08/2024 20:19:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2182284
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

More than 17,000 undergraduate nursing students graduate each year

so for a Tasmanian population of 1/50 of Australia you could allocate 1/50 of them to the state

so 340 new nurses each year which would also be about 1 a day

so what’s the problem¿

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Date: 5/08/2024 12:45:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2182815
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

The terror threat level has been raised to “probable” after being lowered in 2022. The prime minister has reassured Australians the change does not suggest any intelligence of an imminent attack.

(y)

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Date: 6/08/2024 08:47:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2183088
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Typical Monarchland Communists When The Roads Are About To Be Covered In Electric Vehicles It’s

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-06/queensland-labor-state-owned-petrol-stations-state-election/104186768

Time To Buy Buy Buy Wonder What’s Going On Here

probably trying to bail out their palaeontological petrochemical donors who realised the investment is about to go pop

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Date: 6/08/2024 16:35:54
From: dv
ID: 2183291
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/02/queensland-police-data-shows-youth-at-near-record-lows-so-why-the-tough-on-election-talk

Queensland police data shows youth crime at near-record lows. So why the ‘tough on crime’ election talk?

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Date: 6/08/2024 16:48:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2183297
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

why

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Date: 6/08/2024 17:01:46
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2183302
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/02/queensland-police-data-shows-youth-at-near-record-lows-so-why-the-tough-on-election-talk

Queensland police data shows youth crime at near-record lows. So why the ‘tough on crime’ election talk?

ummm because it relates well with the electorate and it eliminates a clear LibNat wedge

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Date: 6/08/2024 17:16:45
From: dv
ID: 2183303
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

diddly-squat said:


dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/02/queensland-police-data-shows-youth-at-near-record-lows-so-why-the-tough-on-election-talk

Queensland police data shows youth crime at near-record lows. So why the ‘tough on crime’ election talk?

ummm because it relates well with the electorate and it eliminates a clear LibNat wedge

0o_yQvnw3EI

I think ALP has no shot from here. 14% behind, 2 months to go.

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Date: 6/08/2024 17:25:01
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2183305
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


diddly-squat said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/02/queensland-police-data-shows-youth-at-near-record-lows-so-why-the-tough-on-election-talk

Queensland police data shows youth crime at near-record lows. So why the ‘tough on crime’ election talk?

ummm because it relates well with the electorate and it eliminates a clear LibNat wedge

0o_yQvnw3EI

I think ALP has no shot from here. 14% behind, 2 months to go.

so are you advising the Labs to just give up now?

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Date: 6/08/2024 17:29:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2183306
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


diddly-squat said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/02/queensland-police-data-shows-youth-at-near-record-lows-so-why-the-tough-on-election-talk

Queensland police data shows youth crime at near-record lows. So why the ‘tough on crime’ election talk?

ummm because it relates well with the electorate and it eliminates a clear LibNat wedge

0o_yQvnw3EI

I think ALP has no shot from here. 14% behind, 2 months to go.

Can’t wait for the L/NP to get back in and start on their favourite hobbies of slashing spending on health, education, services, etc., and of savaging the Qld public service (they do so resent that the PS has so willingly consorted with those ALP oiks for all these years).

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Date: 6/08/2024 17:30:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2183307
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

The latter waste is proposed to be stored at Perth’s Garden Island Naval base. “I don’t see any reason why we would want to store low-level radioactive wastes in a city, near waterways, when we have one of the safest places on the planet for low-level radioactive wastes available today,” he said.

oh c’m‘on it’s not ammonium nitrate sheesh

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Date: 6/08/2024 17:34:06
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2183308
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

The latter waste is proposed to be stored at Perth’s Garden Island Naval base. “I don’t see any reason why we would want to store low-level radioactive wastes in a city, near waterways, when we have one of the safest places on the planet for low-level radioactive wastes available today,” he said.

oh c’m‘on it’s not ammonium nitrate sheesh

Plagiarist! attribute. attribute.

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Date: 6/08/2024 17:56:54
From: dv
ID: 2183309
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

diddly-squat said:


dv said:

diddly-squat said:

ummm because it relates well with the electorate and it eliminates a clear LibNat wedge

0o_yQvnw3EI

I think ALP has no shot from here. 14% behind, 2 months to go.

so are you advising the Labs to just give up now?

I wouldn’t go that far but they should have a firm eye on 2028.

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Date: 6/08/2024 18:08:54
From: Arts
ID: 2183313
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/02/queensland-police-data-shows-youth-at-near-record-lows-so-why-the-tough-on-election-talk

Queensland police data shows youth crime at near-record lows. So why the ‘tough on crime’ election talk?

sure fire vote winner happens every time.. people only want a version of the truth and the politicians are very good at giving it

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Date: 6/08/2024 19:08:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2183324
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

The latter waste is proposed to be stored at Perth’s Garden Island Naval base. “I don’t see any reason why we would want to store low-level radioactive wastes in a city, near waterways, when we have one of the safest places on the planet for low-level radioactive wastes available today,” he said.

oh c’m‘on it’s not ammonium nitrate sheesh

Plagiarist! attribute. attribute.

hidden readonly archive system

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Date: 6/08/2024 23:44:55
From: kii
ID: 2183380
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Linda Reynolds comes across as a toxic pos.
I’ve not kept up with the all the details of why she’s suing Higgins, but….fark!

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Date: 7/08/2024 08:20:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2183417
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Tributes are being paid to former Maribyrnong mayor Sarah Carter who was found dead in her home on Tuesday

Ms Carter, 45, was serving her fourth term as councillor and was the first woman to serve as mayor three times.

Victoria Police said there were no suspicious circumstances and a report is being prepared for the coroner.

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Date: 7/08/2024 12:15:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2183472
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

Typical Monarchland Communists When The Roads Are About To Be Covered In Electric Vehicles It’s

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-06/queensland-labor-state-owned-petrol-stations-state-election/104186768

Time To Buy Buy Buy Wonder What’s Going On Here

probably trying to bail out their palaeontological petrochemical donors who realised the investment is about to go pop

Meanwhile The New South Wuhan Communists Issue Arbitrary Edicts To Bluster And Posture Resulting In Pushback But With Little Impact

Premier Chris Minns on Monday sent out a memo ordering public service workers to work out of an office for at least three days a week. The premier has not ruled out occupying more offices if needed.

In an email sent to NSW Health staff, Phil Minns, the deputy secretary of people, culture and government, said that “the availability of flexible work arrangements within NSW Health will continue and those arrangements are not changed by this circular”. “The updated advice does not mandate any particular pattern of attendance, but it is a starting position that work is principally done in an approved workplace in NSW,” he said. “We value our people who work in many different locations and environments across NSW and will continue to support flexible work arrangements in line with the policies and circular,” Mr Murray wrote. “For people currently hybrid working, please continue as usual while we examine the new requirements,” he said.

About 85 per cent of public servants work on the front line and will not be affected.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-07/nsw-government-workers-public-service-return-to-office/104194098

joke

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Date: 7/08/2024 21:15:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2183683
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Look yous just don’t realise how much teaching, healing and living can be done in a stadium, do yous¿

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Date: 8/08/2024 05:04:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2183738
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

We Knew It¡ It’s Official¡ Australian Lawyers Can’t Go Freelance Or Protest Or Fight For Social Justice¡

In sentencing, Deputy Chief Magistrate Theo Tsavdaridis told the student he needed to keep an “unblemished record” if he wanted to become a lawyer.

“You need to decide who you want to be,” he said. “Some freelancer, some protester, some social justice warrior, or do you want to finish your studies in law and become a lawyer?”

The deputy chief magistrate accepted there was some level of provocation on the part of the complainant, in the form of “obscenities” directed at Mr El-Sobihy’s camp.

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Date: 8/08/2024 05:07:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2183739
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

“It’s incredibly disappointing to see this sort of political game playing that is so commonly used against women who dare to take leadership positions in politics,” she said. “The efforts at the council meeting last night were a dangerous political stunt by Liberal councillors that should have no place in Australian politics. “I will never stop advocating for the protection of human rights for all people, and for the needs of the people of the community I serve.”

Meanwhile in support of international law…

In October last year the deputy mayor of Waverley Council was removed from his position after trying to amend a motion about the conflict to condemn alleged war crimes by Israel.

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Date: 8/08/2024 09:45:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2183777
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

ruby said:


well at least here’s something

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-08/alan-joyce-multi-million-dollar-payout-reduced/104198930

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Date: 8/08/2024 17:46:37
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2183946
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

were there Reynolds/Higgins deformation trial hearings today?

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Date: 8/08/2024 18:09:52
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2183952
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

diddly-squat said:

were there Reynolds/Higgins deformation trial hearings today?

oooo. deformation. painful.

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Date: 8/08/2024 19:45:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2183990
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Fucking bankers tell us what they think about one of the most important jobs in society.

The federal government’s move to increase wages of childcare workers comes amid concern for the RBA about persistent inflation, and former assistant governor Luci Ellis says it would worry the bank.

Economists and the RBA are also concerned about the large state and federal government infrastructure pipeline and its inflationary effect.

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Date: 9/08/2024 04:17:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2184072
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

ooooh hey wait up oh shit wait you mean there might be a really fucking simple solution to this supposed

shortage of affordable housing problem

¿

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Date: 9/08/2024 08:55:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2184104
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Australia Pays $368000000000 To Acquire Nuclear Waste

Undisclosed “political commitments” have been made between the Albanese government and its AUKUS partners in a new agreement for the transfer of naval nuclear technology to Australia, which critics warn is likely to also allow radioactive waste to be dumped here.

The White House confirmed Australia, the United Kingdom and the United States had reached another significant “AUKUS milestone” that set up further trilateral cooperation that would be essential for this country to build, operate and maintain nuclear-powered submarines.

Under the AUKUS “optimal pathway” unveiled in San Diego last year, Australia will spend up to $368 billion over the next three decades to first purchase second-hand Virginia-class submarines and then develop a new SSN-AUKUS fleet using British technology.

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Date: 9/08/2024 09:31:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2184129
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

he’s lying sorry we mean cherry picking the 5% of spurious result studies

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-09/working-from-home-australia-good-thing/104202068

NSW Premier Chris Minns this week said “overseas studies” showed people were less productive when working from home. While it’s unclear what overseas studies he was referencing,

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Date: 9/08/2024 10:06:56
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2184149
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

he’s lying sorry we mean cherry picking the 5% of spurious result studies

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-09/working-from-home-australia-good-thing/104202068

NSW Premier Chris Minns this week said “overseas studies” showed people were less productive when working from home. While it’s unclear what overseas studies he was referencing,


Playing on the cultural cringe. If ‘overseas’ says it’s so, then it must be true.

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Date: 9/08/2024 10:59:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2184165
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

he’s lying sorry we mean cherry picking the 5% of spurious result studies

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-09/working-from-home-australia-good-thing/104202068

NSW Premier Chris Minns this week said “overseas studies” showed people were less productive when working from home. While it’s unclear what overseas studies he was referencing,

Playing on the cultural cringe. If ‘overseas’ says it’s so, then it must be true.

Terrorists From Terrorist States Are Less Destructive Productive When Working From Home (obviously, since they too are frontline workers) ¡ We Must Be More Productive, Like The More Productive Ones ¡

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Date: 9/08/2024 11:02:11
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2184166
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

he’s lying sorry we mean cherry picking the 5% of spurious result studies

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-09/working-from-home-australia-good-thing/104202068

NSW Premier Chris Minns this week said “overseas studies” showed people were less productive when working from home. While it’s unclear what overseas studies he was referencing,

Playing on the cultural cringe. If ‘overseas’ says it’s so, then it must be true.

Terrorists From Terrorist States Are Less Destructive Productive When Working From Home (obviously, since they too are frontline workers) ¡ We Must Be More Productive, Like The More Productive Ones ¡

I think studies from wherever should be assessed on their methodology.

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Date: 9/08/2024 11:06:27
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2184169
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

JudgeMental said:


SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

Playing on the cultural cringe. If ‘overseas’ says it’s so, then it must be true.

Terrorists From Terrorist States Are Less Destructive Productive When Working From Home (obviously, since they too are frontline workers) ¡ We Must Be More Productive, Like The More Productive Ones ¡

I think studies from wherever should be assessed on their methodology.

That’s treasonous.

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Date: 9/08/2024 11:32:27
From: Cymek
ID: 2184176
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

This is possible politics

I noticed a massive increase in our departments high risk clients coming to us

All violence offences, which I assume is a reaction to the critical state of DV and violence in WA.

Could be arse covering as if we are dealing with them its shows we are dealing with them.

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Date: 9/08/2024 11:35:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 2184180
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Cymek said:


This is possible politics

I noticed a massive increase in our departments high risk clients coming to us

All violence offences, which I assume is a reaction to the critical state of DV and violence in WA.

Could be arse covering as if we are dealing with them its shows we are dealing with them.

The general level of intelligence is easily recognised by the willingness to enter into arse covering.

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Date: 9/08/2024 15:53:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2184295
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Finance Minister Katy Gallagher says the federal government is working towards a goal of universal early child education, a day after announcing a $3.6 billion wage increase for workers.

so close to universal basic income

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Date: 9/08/2024 16:31:03
From: dv
ID: 2184302
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Morgan Poll has ALP ahead 51.5 – 48.5
N=1655

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Date: 10/08/2024 14:37:55
From: dv
ID: 2184635
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

The former Australian federal police commissioner Mick Keelty has relinquished his Order of Australia honour, six years after he passed information received from serving police officers to Ben Roberts-Smith, alerting him to a pending war crimes investigation.

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Date: 10/08/2024 16:59:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2184688
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

09 August 2024
AFL High Performance Centre: Full results revealed from Clarence elector poll
Rob Inglis
Proposed site of the AFL High Performance Centre at the old Rosny Golf Course site. Picture: Nikki Davis-Jones
UPDATED, 5.30PM, FRIDAY: The results of a four-week elector poll have shown that Clarence residents are split on a proposal to build an AFL High Performance Centre at the site of the old Rosny Golf Course, while a plan to construct the facility across two locations has been comprehensively rejected.
Late on Friday afternoon, the Tasmanian Electoral Commission (TEC) published the results following the close of the non-compulsory and non-binding poll at 2pm on Thursday.
51 per cent of voters answered ‘yes’ and 49 per cent answered ‘no’ to the first question, which was: ‘Do you support building the AFL High Performance Centre entirely within the Rosny Parklands?’
When asked if they supported building the facility across both the Rosny Parklands and Charles Hand Park, 35 per cent said ‘yes’, and 65 per cent said ‘no’.
About 63 per cent of electors enrolled in Clarence – 28,476 of 45,351 people – returned a ballot.
Speaking to the Mercury after the results for the first question were released, Clarence Mayor Brendan Blomeley said they showed the community was “more or less split down the middle” on the proposal and their views “closely mirrored” the range of opinions held by councillors themselves.
Cr Blomeley said there now appeared to be a clear pathway forward for the “truly transformational” development, built entirely at the old golf course site.
“It’ll be game-changing for Clarence. For it to be developed solely on the former Rosny Golf Course is the best outcome, and that’s supported and backed in by our community,” he said.
Save Rosny’s Parks (SRP) spokesman Terry Polglase, however, said the fact that the vote was “equally split” for the first question was evidence that there was no “social licence” to build the facility at the proposed location.
“The SRP group now calls upon the AFL to announce Kingborough as its favoured site if no alternative site in Clarence exists,” he said.
“If the AFL wants to see a united Tasmania backing our team and to have 16,000 voting residents of Clarence come on board rather than opposing it, a decision to place the elsewhere is needed.”
The main facility of the High Performance Centre would be located at the site of the old Rosny golf course and would comprise an oval the size of the MCG playing surface, as well as a building consisting of indoor training facilities and club administration.
A second oval has been proposed for Charles Hand Park but the community appears to have rejected the notion of this location being used for the development.
The High Performance Centre would be used as a base for the new Tasmania Football Club.
The state government has committed $60m to the development, with the AFL chipping in $10m.
robert.inglis@news.com.au

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Date: 11/08/2024 19:30:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2185012
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Liberal Party cocaine dealer John Macgowan bragged on social media about impersonating an ASIO agent in a post he published on the 13th of March 2024, which is a federal crime, and spreading lies to a journalist.
Then on the 5th of June 2024 both John Macgowan’s and Bruce Lehrmann’s houses were raided by the Australian Federal Police, NSW Police and the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) for allegedly stealing, and trying to profit from, government submarine secrets.
This is one of those dumb and dumber stories where the stupidity of John Macgowan and Bruce Lehrmann would be impossible to believe if it wasn’t true.

https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2024/08/11/liberal-party-cocaine-dealer-john-macgowan-impersonates-an-asio-agent-then-has-his-and-bruce-lehrmanns-houses-raided-by-police-and-the-nacc/

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Date: 11/08/2024 20:05:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2185013
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Quick look over there CFMEU bad¡

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Date: 11/08/2024 20:11:27
From: Michael V
ID: 2185015
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


Liberal Party cocaine dealer John Macgowan bragged on social media about impersonating an ASIO agent in a post he published on the 13th of March 2024, which is a federal crime, and spreading lies to a journalist.
Then on the 5th of June 2024 both John Macgowan’s and Bruce Lehrmann’s houses were raided by the Australian Federal Police, NSW Police and the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) for allegedly stealing, and trying to profit from, government submarine secrets.
This is one of those dumb and dumber stories where the stupidity of John Macgowan and Bruce Lehrmann would be impossible to believe if it wasn’t true.

https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2024/08/11/liberal-party-cocaine-dealer-john-macgowan-impersonates-an-asio-agent-then-has-his-and-bruce-lehrmanns-houses-raided-by-police-and-the-nacc/

Giggle.

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Date: 11/08/2024 20:13:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2185016
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Fuck CHINA¡

Australia’s domestic spy chief says people would be shocked to learn the identity of the countries his agency has caught actively interfering in diaspora communities. ASIO director-general Mike Burgess said friendly nations were among the “three to four” nations detected actively working within Australian communities. It prompted him to warn that he’ll name them if the threat poses a significant risk to Australians. “I can think of at least three or four that we have actually actively found involved in foreign interference in Australian diaspora communities,” he told the ABC’s Insiders program. “Some of them would surprise you, some of them are also our friends.”

Oh that’s right sorry our bad CHINA are enemy, enemies of our enemies are friends.

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Date: 11/08/2024 20:36:03
From: party_pants
ID: 2185017
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

Fuck CHINA¡

Australia’s domestic spy chief says people would be shocked to learn the identity of the countries his agency has caught actively interfering in diaspora communities. ASIO director-general Mike Burgess said friendly nations were among the “three to four” nations detected actively working within Australian communities. It prompted him to warn that he’ll name them if the threat poses a significant risk to Australians. “I can think of at least three or four that we have actually actively found involved in foreign interference in Australian diaspora communities,” he told the ABC’s Insiders program. “Some of them would surprise you, some of them are also our friends.”

Oh that’s right sorry our bad CHINA are enemy, enemies of our enemies are friends.

Yeah, India – based on their shenanigans in Canada.
Israel, obviously

guesses: Turkey (or Turkiye – whatever their funky new spelling is), Greece.

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Date: 12/08/2024 12:35:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2185150
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

So Called “Independent” Wrecks Patrick Is Just Another Communist Shill

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Date: 12/08/2024 17:32:39
From: buffy
ID: 2185238
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

The Linda Reynolds court thing

Maybe it’s just that I’m not a LibNat sort of person, but I have some difficulty getting up sympathy for this woman.

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Date: 12/08/2024 17:36:51
From: dv
ID: 2185243
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

An Australian federal police counter-terrorism operation targeting a 13-year-old boy with autism cost more than $500,000, Guardian Australia can reveal.

Documents provided under freedom of information laws show the total cost of Operation Bourglinster, the AFP investigation into a boy known as Thomas Carrick, was $507,087. No further breakdown of the cost was provided.

The Victorian children’s court found that police encouraged Thomas in his fixation on Islamic State during an undercover operation after his parents sought help from the authorities

wThomas was later charged with terror offences after a magistrate found an undercover officer “fed his fixation” and “doomed” the rehabilitation efforts of the boy and his parents.

On 17 April 2021, his parents went to a police station and asked for help because Thomas was watching Islamic State-related videos on his computer and had asked his mother to buy bomb-making ingredients such as sulphur and acetone.

Thomas was investigated and charged with two terror offences by the Joint Counter Terrorism Team (JCTT), which comprises Australian federal police, Victoria police and Asio members. He was the youngest person ever charged with those offences, the court found.

It granted a permanent stay on the charges in October last year after making grave findings about the conduct of officers.

“The community would not expect law enforcement officers to encourage a 13- to 14-year-old child towards racial hatred, distrust of police and violent extremism, encouraging the child’s fixation on Isis,” Magistrate Lesley Fleming said in the decision, first revealed by Guardian Australia.

Thomas, an NDIS recipient with an IQ of 71, was first reported to police by Victoria’s Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) and then by his parents because of his fixation with Islamic State, which included him accessing extremist material online and making threats to other students.

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Great work

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Date: 12/08/2024 17:38:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2185246
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

buffy said:


The Linda Reynolds court thing

Maybe it’s just that I’m not a LibNat sort of person, but I have some difficulty getting up sympathy for this woman.

She was a minister inthe Morrison government.

She is therefore, presumably, both devoid of and underserving of sympathy.

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Date: 12/08/2024 17:48:29
From: kryten
ID: 2185257
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

The Linda Reynolds court thing

Maybe it’s just that I’m not a LibNat sort of person, but I have some difficulty getting up sympathy for this woman.

She was a minister inthe Morrison government.

She is therefore, presumably, both devoid of and underserving of sympathy.

What he says

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Date: 13/08/2024 07:15:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2185329
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

The Linda Reynolds court thing

Maybe it’s just that I’m not a LibNat sort of person, but I have some difficulty getting up sympathy for this woman.

She was a minister inthe Morrison government.

She is therefore, presumably, both devoid of and underserving of sympathy.

Any woman who calls a person who has been raped a ‘lying cow’, is obviously bereft of all compassion.

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Date: 13/08/2024 07:55:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 2185334
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

A government-commissioned report on the territory’s gas industry, kept hidden from the public for two years, has forecast the NT’s emissions could rise up to 150 per cent.

Net Zero Fantasy

On your ABC.

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Date: 13/08/2024 10:37:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2185366
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

The Linda Reynolds court thing

Maybe it’s just that I’m not a LibNat sort of person, but I have some difficulty getting up sympathy for this woman.

She was a minister inthe Morrison government.

She is therefore, presumably, both devoid of and underserving of sympathy.

Any woman who calls a person who has been raped a ‘lying cow’, is obviously bereft of all compassion.

Why though, we thought it was just a standard position in the Kama Sutra sorry we https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c4TfcbVNgk8 meant the Yoga Sutras.

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Date: 13/08/2024 10:42:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 2185372
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

She was a minister inthe Morrison government.

She is therefore, presumably, both devoid of and underserving of sympathy.

Any woman who calls a person who has been raped a ‘lying cow’, is obviously bereft of all compassion.

Why though, we thought it was just a standard position in the Kama Sutra sorry we https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c4TfcbVNgk8 meant the Yoga Sutras.

Personally don’t see it as a laughing matter.

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Date: 13/08/2024 11:39:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2185416
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Any woman who calls a person who has been raped a ‘lying cow’, is obviously bereft of all compassion.

Why though, we thought it was just a standard position in the Kama Sutra sorry we https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c4TfcbVNgk8 meant the Yoga Sutras.

Personally don’t see it as a laughing matter.

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Date: 13/08/2024 12:11:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 2185443
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Will it really?

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Date: 13/08/2024 12:13:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 2185444
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

This could be interesting.

The defamation trial between WA Senator Linda Reynolds and her ex-staffer Brittany Higgins will today hear from former Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

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Date: 13/08/2024 12:15:04
From: Arts
ID: 2185446
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:


Will it really?

that looks like a nightmare.

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Date: 13/08/2024 12:16:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 2185449
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Will it really?

that looks like a nightmare.

scary, isn’t it.

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Date: 13/08/2024 12:25:17
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2185457
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:


Will it really?

what about all the money the govt put into renovating the entertainment entre that hasn’t had anything really exciting there since dire straits?

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Date: 13/08/2024 12:28:19
From: kii
ID: 2185459
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Fucking Morrison is appearing at the Reynolds hearing.
Another disgusting man.

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Date: 13/08/2024 12:38:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2185465
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

kii said:


Fucking Morrison is appearing at the Reynolds hearing.
Another disgusting man.

will he lie or will he not remember or will do a Joh and reserve his right to say ‘um’.

.

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Date: 13/08/2024 12:43:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 2185466
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


kii said:

Fucking Morrison is appearing at the Reynolds hearing.
Another disgusting man.

will he lie or will he not remember or will do a Joh and reserve his right to say ‘um’.

.

All of the above.

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Date: 13/08/2024 12:45:24
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2185468
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

kii said:

Fucking Morrison is appearing at the Reynolds hearing.
Another disgusting man.

will he lie or will he not remember or will do a Joh and reserve his right to say ‘um’.

.

All of the above.

might throw her under the bus.

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Date: 13/08/2024 12:46:49
From: Michael V
ID: 2185471
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


kii said:

Fucking Morrison is appearing at the Reynolds hearing.
Another disgusting man.

will he lie or will he not remember or will do a Joh and reserve his right to say ‘um’.

.

I guess we will soon know.

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Date: 13/08/2024 13:22:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2185494
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


kii said:

Fucking Morrison is appearing at the Reynolds hearing.
Another disgusting man.

will he lie or will he not remember or will do a Joh and reserve his right to say ‘um’.

.

“Will he lie…?”

This is Scott Morrison we’re talking about here. Scott F***ing Morrison. ScoMo. The Man From Marketing (failed). The Secret Minister for Everything. The PM Who Was Definitely Not in Hawaii, No, Absolutely, He Isn’t.

And you ask “will he lie”?

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Date: 13/08/2024 14:19:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 2185527
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

kii said:

Fucking Morrison is appearing at the Reynolds hearing.
Another disgusting man.

will he lie or will he not remember or will do a Joh and reserve his right to say ‘um’.

.

I guess we will soon know.

Live
Scott Morrison testifies at Linda Reynolds, Brittany Higgins defamation trial

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Date: 14/08/2024 10:50:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2185726
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

“This bloke always seeks to divide … We take our advice from the Director-General of ASIO and the security agencies. Not from someone always looking for a fight, always looking for division.”

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Date: 14/08/2024 10:53:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2185729
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

“This bloke always seeks to divide … We take our advice from the Director-General of ASIO and the security agencies. Not from someone always looking for a fight, always looking for division.”

This might be a little more interesting if you (a) gave an attribution to the quote, and (b) gave some indication of whaterver it is that you think it’s relevant to.

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Date: 14/08/2024 10:55:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2185731
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

“This bloke always seeks to divide … We take our advice from the Director-General of ASIO and the security agencies. Not from someone always looking for a fight, always looking for division.”

This might be a little more interesting if you (a) gave an attribution to the quote, and (b) gave some indication of whaterver it is that you think it’s relevant to.

Albo talking about the potato, I think.

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Date: 14/08/2024 11:00:00
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2185733
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

“This bloke always seeks to divide … We take our advice from the Director-General of ASIO and the security agencies. Not from someone always looking for a fight, always looking for division.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-14/dutton-says-people-fleeing-gaza-should-not-a-granted-a-visa/104222320

Link

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Date: 14/08/2024 11:01:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2185734
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

“This bloke always seeks to divide … We take our advice from the Director-General of ASIO and the security agencies. Not from someone always looking for a fight, always looking for division.”

This might be a little more interesting if you (a) gave an attribution to the quote, and (b) gave some indication of whaterver it is that you think it’s relevant to.

Albo talking about the potato, I think.

Sorry here yous go¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-14/dutton-says-people-fleeing-gaza-should-not-a-granted-a-visa/104222320

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Date: 14/08/2024 11:18:40
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2185735
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

This might be a little more interesting if you (a) gave an attribution to the quote, and (b) gave some indication of whaterver it is that you think it’s relevant to.

Albo talking about the potato, I think.

Sorry here yous go¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-14/dutton-says-people-fleeing-gaza-should-not-a-granted-a-visa/104222320

Thank you.

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Date: 14/08/2024 11:19:00
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2185736
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Thanks also, Mr Car and Judge

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Date: 14/08/2024 11:49:25
From: dv
ID: 2185741
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Fox now has Michigan as Lean Democrat. Three weeks ago it was Lean Republican.

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Date: 14/08/2024 11:50:14
From: dv
ID: 2185743
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

I grant you that’s only tangentially connected to Auspol

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Date: 14/08/2024 17:34:35
From: dv
ID: 2185833
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

I’m sorry I missed the discussion on Barry Zempilas.

It’s pretty rare for an Independent mayor to join the Liberal party.

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Date: 14/08/2024 17:42:44
From: Arts
ID: 2185836
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


I’m sorry I missed the discussion on Barry Zempilas.

It’s pretty rare for an Independent mayor to join the Liberal party.

Zemps is about accelerating his career, he doesn’t give a shit about politics

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Date: 14/08/2024 18:14:23
From: Neophyte
ID: 2185848
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


I’m sorry I missed the discussion on Barry Zempilas.

It’s pretty rare for an Independent mayor to join the Liberal party.

Adelaide’s Lord Mayor 1987-93 went on to become Liberal Member for a local electorate.

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Date: 14/08/2024 18:15:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2185849
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


I’m sorry I missed the discussion on Barry Zempilas.

It’s pretty rare for an Independent mayor to join the Liberal party.

I thought his name was Basil.

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Date: 14/08/2024 18:45:51
From: dv
ID: 2185856
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

I’m sorry I missed the discussion on Barry Zempilas.

It’s pretty rare for an Independent mayor to join the Liberal party.

I thought his name was Basil.

Brain failure by me

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Date: 15/08/2024 06:07:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2185934
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Families from the Ngemba, Ngiyampaa, Wangaaypuwan and Wayilwan peoples have had their native title claim recognised after a 12-year fight. It’s one of the biggest native title claims in Western NSW, and includes land and water up to the Barwon River in the north, the Lachlan River in the south, the Castlereagh River in the east and Ivanhoe in the west.

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Date: 15/08/2024 06:46:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2185935
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

What about full throated supporters of genocidal fascist war criminals are they a problem¿

The spy chief told Insiders on Sunday “there are security checks” before visas are granted. He said those referred to his organisation were dealt with “effectively”. Palestinians voicing only “rhetorical” support for Hamas, Burgess said, are “not a problem”.

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Date: 15/08/2024 17:22:25
From: buffy
ID: 2186179
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

There’s some irony going on in this country. The other day at the Linda Reynolds court case it was said to be very unfair that she had been questioned in the Senate about how she had handled the Brittany Higgins matter. So much so that it nearly killed her (according to ScoMo and various other people). And today Dutton and co do this to Zali Stegall in parliament…

Zali Stegall in question time

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Date: 16/08/2024 07:00:59
From: ruby
ID: 2186343
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

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Date: 16/08/2024 07:03:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 2186344
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

ruby said:



How low can he go?

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Date: 16/08/2024 07:10:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2186347
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:

ruby said:


How low can he go?

they already grow underground

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Date: 16/08/2024 07:31:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 2186348
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

ruby said:


How low can he go?

they already grow underground

He does have his head in the sand.

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Date: 16/08/2024 08:07:15
From: Michael V
ID: 2186351
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

ruby said:



LOLOL

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Date: 16/08/2024 19:58:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2186597
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

fucking the genius

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-16/anzac-cove-under-threat-as-fires-rage-across-turkiye/104234492

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has warned of the possibility fires raging towards Gallipoli may reach the graves of Australian soldiers at ANZAC Cove.

Mr Albanese’s statement comes after an update from the general manager for Türkiye’s Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry, Bekir Karacabey, who said firefighters were managing the blaze.

“Let’s be careful to prevent other fires in these days when the risk of fire increases due to extraordinary weather conditions.”

so might “extraordinary” be the new ordinary when global warming potentiates fires like there’s no tomorrow, do yous think that taking better action to turn that warming around might be careful preventative action at all nah fuck it burn more coal and gas

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Date: 17/08/2024 08:22:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2186700
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Property analysts say Australia’s red hot rental market is beginning to cool

of course

sure

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Date: 18/08/2024 19:55:12
From: dv
ID: 2187365
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Congratulations to the new Leader of the Opposition in South Australia

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Date: 18/08/2024 19:56:46
From: dv
ID: 2187366
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


Congratulations to the new Leader of the Opposition in South Australia


Do we in fact have any South Australians here?

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Date: 18/08/2024 19:57:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2187367
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


dv said:

Congratulations to the new Leader of the Opposition in South Australia


Do we in fact have any South Australians here?

No. They don’t like to consort with people from ‘convict’ states.

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Date: 18/08/2024 20:00:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2187368
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


dv said:

Congratulations to the new Leader of the Opposition in South Australia


Do we in fact have any South Australians here?

Transition and Neophyte.

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Date: 18/08/2024 20:00:57
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2187369
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

dv said:

Congratulations to the new Leader of the Opposition in South Australia


Do we in fact have any South Australians here?

No. They don’t like to consort with people from ‘convict’ states.

Well we don’t like Diddly either. So there!

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Date: 18/08/2024 20:02:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2187370
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Witty Rejoinder said:


captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Do we in fact have any South Australians here?

No. They don’t like to consort with people from ‘convict’ states.

Well we don’t like Diddly either. So there!

Oh and diddly lives in SA these days.

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Date: 18/08/2024 20:26:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2187372
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024




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Date: 18/08/2024 20:32:06
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2187373
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

I fully endorse any opinion or action by wookiemeister

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Date: 19/08/2024 07:04:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2187438
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

In breaking news, photographs of transpeople should

Mr O’Gorman said photographs of women should only be viewed by female staff.

only be viewed by transpersonal staff¿

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Date: 19/08/2024 08:37:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2187453
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

In breaking news, photographs of transpeople should

Mr O’Gorman said photographs of women should only be viewed by female staff.

only be viewed by transpersonal staff¿

But, how will they know that they’re photographs of women until someone looks at them?

Does Mr. O’Gorman propose that the reviewing staff are to be only female? Are they to be compelled to examine images of men in various dtates of dressand behaviour?

And who gives a shit what people who drive around in the nude and similar think, anyway?

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Date: 19/08/2024 08:37:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2187454
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

In breaking news, photographs of transpeople should

Mr O’Gorman said photographs of women should only be viewed by female staff.

only be viewed by transpersonal staff¿

But, how will they know that they’re photographs of women until someone looks at them?

Does Mr. O’Gorman propose that the reviewing staff are to be only female? Are they to be compelled to examine images of men in various dtates of dressand behaviour?

And who gives a shit what people who drive around in the nude and similar think, anyway?

Oh, the link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-19/call-for-release-privacy-reviews-phone-detection-seatbelt-camera/104228486

link

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Date: 19/08/2024 08:44:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 2187455
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

captain_spalding said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

In breaking news, photographs of transpeople should

Mr O’Gorman said photographs of women should only be viewed by female staff.

only be viewed by transpersonal staff¿

But, how will they know that they’re photographs of women until someone looks at them?

Does Mr. O’Gorman propose that the reviewing staff are to be only female? Are they to be compelled to examine images of men in various dtates of dressand behaviour?

And who gives a shit what people who drive around in the nude and similar think, anyway?

Oh, the link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-19/call-for-release-privacy-reviews-phone-detection-seatbelt-camera/104228486

link

Anyway, I’ve got nothing to fear from such cameras as at a wild guess so would most all of the drivers on our roads.

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Date: 19/08/2024 08:49:56
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2187456
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

captain_spalding said:

But, how will they know that they’re photographs of women until someone looks at them?

Does Mr. O’Gorman propose that the reviewing staff are to be only female? Are they to be compelled to examine images of men in various dtates of dressand behaviour?

And who gives a shit what people who drive around in the nude and similar think, anyway?

Oh, the link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-19/call-for-release-privacy-reviews-phone-detection-seatbelt-camera/104228486

link

Anyway, I’ve got nothing to fear from such cameras as at a wild guess so would most all of the drivers on our roads.

Best way to get rid of mobile phone surveillance cameras, and speed cameras:

don’t use your mobile phone while driving, and don’t exceed the speed limit.

If everyone did that for a while (it’s quite painless, no expense involved), then the cameras would be abandoned as uneconomical within about six months.

They exist because the behaviour of the people who complain loudest about them makes them profitable.

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Date: 19/08/2024 08:51:03
From: Tamb
ID: 2187457
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

captain_spalding said:

But, how will they know that they’re photographs of women until someone looks at them?

Does Mr. O’Gorman propose that the reviewing staff are to be only female? Are they to be compelled to examine images of men in various dtates of dressand behaviour?

And who gives a shit what people who drive around in the nude and similar think, anyway?

Oh, the link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-19/call-for-release-privacy-reviews-phone-detection-seatbelt-camera/104228486

link

Anyway, I’ve got nothing to fear from such cameras as at a wild guess so would most all of the drivers on our roads.


+1

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Date: 19/08/2024 15:51:48
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2187617
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Tasmania’s financial position on track to become worst in the country over next three years, Saul Eslake’s independent review finds

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-19/independent-report-into-tasmania-financial-position/104236274

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Date: 19/08/2024 16:34:28
From: Dark Orange
ID: 2187621
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


Tasmania’s financial position on track to become worst in the country over next three years, Saul Eslake’s independent review finds

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-19/independent-report-into-tasmania-financial-position/104236274

Have they turned all your water into electricity yet?

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Date: 19/08/2024 16:37:56
From: Cymek
ID: 2187623
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Dark Orange said:


sarahs mum said:

Tasmania’s financial position on track to become worst in the country over next three years, Saul Eslake’s independent review finds

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-19/independent-report-into-tasmania-financial-position/104236274

Have they turned all your water into electricity yet?

The new Jesus would do that instead of wine

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Date: 19/08/2024 16:56:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2187626
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


Tasmania’s financial position on track to become worst in the country over next three years, Saul Eslake’s independent review finds

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-19/independent-report-into-tasmania-financial-position/104236274

>Mr Eslake questions whether the state government can afford its $921 million infrastructure program, which includes the contentious Macquarie Point stadium in Hobart.

…which will almost certainly cost far more than that in real life.

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Date: 19/08/2024 16:59:06
From: dv
ID: 2187627
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Tasmania’s financial position on track to become worst in the country over next three years, Saul Eslake’s independent review finds

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-19/independent-report-into-tasmania-financial-position/104236274

>Mr Eslake questions whether the state government can afford its $921 million infrastructure program, which includes the contentious Macquarie Point stadium in Hobart.

…which will almost certainly cost far more than that in real life.

They should probably just build it in Minecraft.

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Date: 19/08/2024 18:04:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2187633
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Tasmania’s financial position on track to become worst in the country over next three years, Saul Eslake’s independent review finds

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-19/independent-report-into-tasmania-financial-position/104236274

>Mr Eslake questions whether the state government can afford its $921 million infrastructure program, which includes the contentious Macquarie Point stadium in Hobart.

…which will almost certainly cost far more than that in real life.

They should probably just build it in Minecraft.

Liberal Are Better Economic Managers Than Labor

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Date: 19/08/2024 18:05:39
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2187634
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

>Mr Eslake questions whether the state government can afford its $921 million infrastructure program, which includes the contentious Macquarie Point stadium in Hobart.

…which will almost certainly cost far more than that in real life.

They should probably just build it in Minecraft.

Liberal Are Better Economic Managers Than Labor

Just ask the people who they do lucrative favours for.

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Date: 19/08/2024 18:12:10
From: Dark Orange
ID: 2187639
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

>Mr Eslake questions whether the state government can afford its $921 million infrastructure program, which includes the contentious Macquarie Point stadium in Hobart.

…which will almost certainly cost far more than that in real life.

They should probably just build it in Minecraft.

Liberal Are Better Economic Managers Than Labor

Data says “No”.

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Date: 19/08/2024 18:23:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2187641
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Dark Orange said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

They should probably just build it in Minecraft.

Liberal Are Better Economic Managers Than Labor

Data says “No”.

Nah no way man look dis hear¡

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Date: 20/08/2024 07:45:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2187698
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

>Mr Eslake questions whether the state government can afford its $921 million infrastructure program, which includes the contentious Macquarie Point stadium in Hobart.

…which will almost certainly cost far more than that in real life.

They should probably just build it in Minecraft.

Liberal Are Better Economic Managers Than Labor

Better liars, you mean.

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Date: 20/08/2024 11:59:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2187786
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

They should probably just build it in Minecraft.

Liberal Are Better Economic Managers Than Labor

Better liars, you mean.

躺平

oh sorry they meant

躺着的牛

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Date: 20/08/2024 12:45:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2187794
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Good to see old traditions being retained¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-20/midwives-told-to-stop-mothers-breastfeeding-before-baby-removals/104245820

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Date: 20/08/2024 16:07:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2187869
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

RCR fkn CHINA hackers¡

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/unauthorised-access-parents-hack-selective-school-results-website-20240820-p5k3vh.html

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Date: 20/08/2024 19:06:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2187934
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:





A clumsily crafted bot network posting about the Linda Reynolds and Brittany Higgins defamation trial likely originated from foreign influencers wielding culturally divisive topics to sow discord, an ABC NEWS Verify analysis has found.

Over the weekend, eagle-eyed users on X (formerly Twitter) noticed dozens of accounts posting similarly worded messages of support for Senator Reynolds, who is suing Ms Higgins over social media posts she claims damaged her reputation.

Link

So who do we sue for this fiasco, this was totally not us, we totally didn’t stand to benefit from a bunch of 癌 sock puppets in this defamation lawsuit of ours.

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Date: 20/08/2024 19:25:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2187949
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:





A clumsily crafted bot network posting about the Linda Reynolds and Brittany Higgins defamation trial likely originated from foreign influencers wielding culturally divisive topics to sow discord, an ABC NEWS Verify analysis has found.

Over the weekend, eagle-eyed users on X (formerly Twitter) noticed dozens of accounts posting similarly worded messages of support for Senator Reynolds, who is suing Ms Higgins over social media posts she claims damaged her reputation.

Link

So who do we sue for this fiasco, this was totally not us, we totally didn’t stand to benefit from a bunch of 癌 sock puppets in this defamation lawsuit of ours.

X

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Date: 21/08/2024 04:45:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 2188045
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

This is about time and I hope it works properly.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-20/govt-unveil-legislation-for-parliamentary-standards-commission/104248858

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Date: 21/08/2024 05:09:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 2188048
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Peter Dutton is reportedly seeking legal advice on whether he can sue Zali Steggall for calling him “racist” (a big step, as the opposition leader usually hates lawyers). But he nonetheless still found time to dash off an opinion piece for News Corp’s Sunday papers calling Steggall and her crossbench colleagues and Labor MPs “Hamas’ useful idiots”.

Annabel Crabb on: Dutton and Albanese’s immigration brawl over Palestinian visas is obscuring a deeper and genuinely alarming question

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Date: 21/08/2024 08:39:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2188079
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Quitter talk, c’m‘on

The party had threatened legal action after the NSW Electoral Commission refused its requests for an extension. However, party officials have decided not to proceed. In a statement, acting state director Wilson Chessel said the party had taken advice from senior counsel about the “irregularities” in the nominations process. “Having given consideration to that advice the Division will not be taking any legal proceedings,” Mr Chessel said.

people would sue defamation for less¡

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Date: 21/08/2024 18:58:27
From: OCDC
ID: 2188285
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

In short:Australia’s national research body, the CSIRO, will cut up to 500 jobs as part of a broader organisational restructure.
Non-research staff are affected, with some research roles already earmarked for cuts earlier this year.
What’s next?The CSIRO staff union has called on the government for more funding to ensure it can continue to carry out world-class research.

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Date: 21/08/2024 19:05:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2188287
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

So was the orchestra playing or not, isn’t this defamation if the orchestra didn’t play¿

Part of Senator Reynolds’s statement of claim against Ms Higgins is that she and her partner David Sharaz orchestrated a campaign to politically damage her and to bring down the government.

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Date: 22/08/2024 13:44:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 2188496
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Couldn’t be further from the truth

About what Ray Hadley said.

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Date: 22/08/2024 15:00:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2188538
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-22/australia-backs-taiwan-in-senate-motion-likely-to-anger-china/104255756

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Date: 22/08/2024 15:30:10
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2188553
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

So Reynolds’ case looks pretty paper thin at this point…

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Date: 22/08/2024 15:32:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2188554
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

diddly-squat said:

So Reynolds’ case looks pretty paper thin at this point…

Here’s hoping that the judge tells her to get roundly and soundly, and tells her just what sort of orifice she is.

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Date: 22/08/2024 15:34:52
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2188555
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

captain_spalding said:


diddly-squat said:

So Reynolds’ case looks pretty paper thin at this point…

Here’s hoping that the judge tells her to get roundly and soundly, and tells her just what sort of orifice she is.

interestingly Reynolds has filed a new law suit looking to force the trust holding BH’s $2.4M compensation payout to place the money back under the sole control of BH.

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Date: 22/08/2024 15:36:49
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2188556
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

So Reynolds’ case looks pretty paper thin at this point…

Here’s hoping that the judge tells her to get roundly and soundly, and tells her just what sort of orifice she is.

interestingly Reynolds has filed a new law suit looking to force the trust holding BH’s $2.4M compensation payout to place the money back under the sole control of BH.

I wonder what skullduggery she’s up to there?
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Date: 22/08/2024 15:50:45
From: dv
ID: 2188566
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

diddly-squat said:

So Reynolds’ case looks pretty paper thin at this point…

I’ve no idea what gets into these people’s heads.
Never mind the cost, the reputational damage can’t be undone.

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Date: 22/08/2024 17:01:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2188575
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

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Date: 22/08/2024 18:57:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2188637
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

“Department of Justice confirms mistake on draft Bill” opinion piece published in today’s Mercury (22/08/2024)


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Date: 22/08/2024 19:01:58
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2188639
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


“Department of Justice confirms mistake on draft Bill” opinion piece published in today’s Mercury (22/08/2024)



He’s being quite generous and diplomatic when he describes the questionable bits as érrors’, isn’t he?

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Date: 22/08/2024 19:43:29
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2188671
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

“Department of Justice confirms mistake on draft Bill” opinion piece published in today’s Mercury (22/08/2024)



He’s being quite generous and diplomatic when he describes the questionable bits as érrors’, isn’t he?

how many errors will be needed to get a cable car?

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Date: 22/08/2024 19:47:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2188673
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

“Department of Justice confirms mistake on draft Bill” opinion piece published in today’s Mercury (22/08/2024)



He’s being quite generous and diplomatic when he describes the questionable bits as érrors’, isn’t he?

how many errors will be needed to get a cable car?

Yes, well, working in mysterious ways, their wonders to perform.

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Date: 22/08/2024 22:40:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2188722
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Former Coalition government ministers have racked up another $1m in taxpayer-funded legal expenses for robodebt in the last year, with the list topped by $460,000 for Scott Morrison.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/22/coalition-government-taxpayer-funded-legal-costs-robodebt-scott-morrison-ntwnfb

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Date: 23/08/2024 21:20:29
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2189120
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

23 August 2024
Leaked email reveals hospital emergency department failure
David Killick
A patient transport ambulance outside the Royal Hobart Hospital.
The state government appears to have dramatically scaled back plans to expand the Royal Hospital emergency department.
Senior RHH staff say the resulting upgrade to the Royal Hobart Hospital’s emergency department is not fit for purpose and won’t meet current or future needs.
The Department of Health says it currently has 82 points of care in the RHH emergency department, although it claimed 92 in a submission to parliament in November last year.
The RHH ED Expansion Phase 2 approved by the Public Works Committee in February was a $149m “state-of-the-art emergency department across two levels to providing a total of 121 points of care”.
But the proposed upgrade is now costed at $130m, will be on one level, and will deliver 113 treatment points instead.
Members of the emergency department’s management team have told staff in a leaked email that budget cutbacks might improve some service delivery — but the new proposed design falls well short of what is needed.
Plans for the upgrade were attached to the email noting the project’s “reduced scope”.
The RHH emergency department was designed for 45,000 annual presentations. It handled 75,258 in 2022/23 and demand is expected to reach 135,000 presentations by 2035.
In July, the Health Department denied budget cuts.
A Health Department spokesman denied the project was on hold.
“The current design plans for Stage 2 of the ED expansion will provide the facilities needed to meet future demand for emergency care in Southern Tasmania,” he said.
“Over the course of the project, the budget has increased from $50m to $130m.
“The first stage of ED redevelopment was delivered in early 2023, providing an additional 28 treatment points as promised.”
President of the AMA Tasmania branch, Dr Michael Lumsden-Steel said the ED redevelopment was the government worst decision about health infrastructure.
“We know the health department has been told there is no more money for the RHH ED redevelopment by the government, for which the Premier and Treasurer are responsible.
“The result of these cuts will be a sub-standard costly project that will deliver up to 25 fewer lie-down acute adult beds. These are the beds needed for a growing older and sicker population.
“We cannot go backwards. We need the extra $50 million now to deliver the original project.”
Labor’s Josh Willie said condemned the scaleback of the design.
“This is a massively broken promise from the Liberals in terms of fixing our health system, to scale back there emergency department redevelopment is absolutely devastating to those that work here and to patient care,” he said.
“It won’t meet current demand let alone future demand and we know that it’s not going to be a fit for purpose.”
August 23, 10am: A $130m upgrade to the Royal Hobart Hospital’s emergency department is not fit for purpose and won’t meet current or future needs because of budget cutbacks, senior staff say.
Members of the emergency department’s management team have told staff in a leaked email that budget cutbacks might improve some service delivery, but the final design falls short of what is needed.
“The government has directed the THS Executive to endorse a redesign of the existing ED footprint within the current budget,” the email says
“We openly acknowledge that this design isn’t fit for purpose to meet our current needs, let alone the future needs of the department.
“All of the risks associated with this design will be clearly documented and escalated through appropriate channels.
“We’re really disappointed with this outcome and recognise that this will be extremely frustrating and disappointing for you all.”
Plans for the upgrade were attached to the email noting the project’s “reduced scope”.
In July, the Health Department denied cutting $19m from a $149m budget for the upgrade.
“There is no reduction in the budget for the ED at the Royal Hobart Hospital,” Acting Department of Health Secretary Dale Webster said.
“The budget is $130m … I want to say very clearly, there have been no cuts to the budget.”
The Parliamentary Standing Committee on Public Works made $149m available for the expansion in February.
Department of Health Deputy Secretary Infrastructure Services Andrew Hargrave told the committee the $149m price tag was value for money and in line with current market expectations.
Greens Health spokeswoman Cecily Rosol said building an adequate emergency department was more important than building a stadium.
“It’s so important our hospitals get the investment they need to make sure our community is looked after properly now and in the future,” she said.
“After neglecting our health system for a decade, the Liberals recently reached a new low with their ‘vacancy control’ cuts to staffing.
“But they’ve already outdone themselves by essentially trashing the critical project to upgrade the Royal Hobart Hospital’s emergency department.
“How can this government continue to push ahead with building a billion-dollar stadium we don’t need while making massive cuts to health infrastructure we just can’t do without?
“If we’re really serious about the health of Tasmanians, we need spending on health to be a top priority. Under the Liberals, that’s not the case.”

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Date: 23/08/2024 22:17:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2189136
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-23/nsw-report-judge-robert-newlinds-not-sit-criminal-cases/104263926

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Date: 24/08/2024 11:34:41
From: dv
ID: 2189245
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

https://www.fwc.gov.au/about-us/closing-loopholes-acts-whats-changing

Interesting

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Date: 24/08/2024 14:40:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2189310
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

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Date: 24/08/2024 16:17:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2189320
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

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Date: 24/08/2024 16:19:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2189322
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:



Well that didn’t last long.

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Date: 24/08/2024 16:23:26
From: party_pants
ID: 2189323
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:


Well that didn’t last long.

The cycle repeats. Lambie herself was part of the Clive Palmer party originally. She had a falling out with him and became an indy. Now that she has tried to brand herself as a party the same thing happened.

I think that there is a lesson in this for all of us. Base your party on a set of principles or doctrines, not on the personality of the leader.

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Date: 24/08/2024 16:28:18
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2189326
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:


Well that didn’t last long.

seems to be that way on Jacqui’s team.

I wonder what the numbers look like now…

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Date: 24/08/2024 17:16:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2189348
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:


Well that didn’t last long.

seems to be that way on Jacqui’s team.

I wonder what the numbers look like now…

Premier says JLN rift won’t impact government rule
It has been a challenging start to life in Tasmanian state politics for the JLN.

Lambie MP’s regrets about deal with Liberals

Andrew Jenner says the deal he and fellow Jacqui Lambie Network MPs signed to help the Tasmanian Liberals form government “wasn’t the best”, but his two colleagues have defended it.

The party faced criticism for the concessions it made in its supply and confidence agreement with Premier Jeremy Rockliff for the Liberals to govern in minority.

As independents the two MPs will need to reach agreements with the government, similar to those for independents David O’Byrne and Kristie Johnston.

On Saturday, Premier Rockliff dismissed claims JLN instability would impact the Liberals’ ability to govern in minority.

more….

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-24/jacqui-lambie-network-party-fractures-tasmania/104265578

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Date: 24/08/2024 17:45:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2189373
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

24 August 2024
Parliament uncertain as Miriam Beswick and Rebekah Pentland cut from Jacqui Lambie Network
Sue Bailey
Senator Jacqui Lambie has parted ways with two of her three Tasmanian MPs saying they no longer hold the party’s values of “accountability, transparency and integrity”.
A statement from the Jacqui Lambie Network said the members for Bass, Rebekah Pentland, and Miriam Beswick, the member for Braddon, would no longer serve as JLN members in the House of Assembly.
In a separate statement the JLN member for Lyons, Andrew Jenner said he supported the decision to “immediately” remove both Ms Pentland and Ms Beswick.
The removal has been sparked by Senator Lambie’s call for Infrastructure Minister, Michael Ferguson to be sacked.
“For far too long, ministers have not been held to account for disgraceful public administration failures, which needs to stop,” the statement said.
“It is unfortunate that Mrs Beswick and Mrs Pentland failed to uphold the Jacqui Lambie Network values of transparency and accountability.
“Their cosy relationship with Minister Ferguson and the sharing of Question Time questions with the government before asking them undermines the duty to the people of Tasmania to hold the government to account.
“Saul Eslake’s independent report on the state’s finances painted a bleak outlook of Tasmania’s economic future.
“Ms Beswick and Pentland have squandered their golden opportunity to hold the government to account and improve Tasmania’s position.”
Mr Jenner said the difference of opinions and values between Ms Beswick, Ms Pentland and “I had meant our relationship had become unworkable”.
“The Jacqui Lambie Network made it very clear. We did not have policies, but we had core values – to not uphold those values once elected is a slap in the face to every single person who voted for the Jacqui Lambie Network.”
Will they stay or go? Parliament uncertain as Lambie MPs consider party exit
August 24, 1pm: Two of the three Jacqui Lambie members of the House of Assembly are considering their future in the party.
The member for Bass, Rebekah Pentland, and Miriam Beswick, the member for Braddon did not deny reports in the Australian newspaper on Saturday that they were preparing to leave the party.
“It’s been a very challenging week for us, and while I haven’t made any final decisions, my focus is on how to best represent the community of Bass,” Ms Pentland said in a statement.
“I’m continuing to communicate with the network as I reflect on the best path forward.”

-mercury

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Date: 24/08/2024 17:49:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2189379
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

we mean people could actually support or reject ideas policies plans instead of bullshit parties networks blocs but yeah you know the populist personality cult is the point

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Date: 24/08/2024 19:35:29
From: dv
ID: 2189439
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Should be a close election in NT today, results should be appearing soon

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Date: 24/08/2024 19:37:42
From: OCDC
ID: 2189441
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:

Should be a close election in NT today, results should be appearing soon
And likely Antony’s last NT election.

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Date: 24/08/2024 19:39:23
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2189442
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


Should be a close election in NT today, results should be appearing soon

I think there getting used to some new colored abacus.

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Date: 24/08/2024 19:46:58
From: dv
ID: 2189443
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

ALP notionally holds 14 of the 25 seats, and there is a pretty safe independent that they can rely on, so realistically they can afford to lose 2. Any more than that and there’ll be some negotiations.

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Date: 24/08/2024 19:53:13
From: dv
ID: 2189444
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Antony says ALP is heading for a bath.

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Date: 24/08/2024 19:59:18
From: dv
ID: 2189447
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Pretty amazing to get Antony Green to call an election as a bloodbath 20 minutes after polls close …

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Date: 24/08/2024 20:11:36
From: dv
ID: 2189448
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

PollBludger is projecting an overall swing to Country Liberal of 9%

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Date: 24/08/2024 20:16:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 2189449
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


PollBludger is projecting an overall swing to Country Liberal of 9%

It won’t change the crime problem that they are blaming Labor for.

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Date: 24/08/2024 20:32:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2189452
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:

Pretty amazing to get Antony Green to call an election as a bloodbath 20 minutes after polls close …

maybe it’ll excite him enough to stay for another round

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Date: 24/08/2024 20:42:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2189454
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

ah well this should be good for the environment

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Date: 24/08/2024 20:44:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2189455
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

LOL

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Date: 24/08/2024 20:44:57
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2189457
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

I’m going to bed.
I’d be very surprised if the CLP don’t win it from there but funnier things have happened at sea, apparently.

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Date: 24/08/2024 20:48:27
From: dv
ID: 2189460
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

ah well this should be good for the environment

I guess. Seems the NT Greens will pick up a seat.

Looks certain ALP will lose the upcoming Qld election as well. Worse things happen at sea.

ACT election is coming up as well, but it seems v likely that will continue to be a shared govt between Greens and ALP.

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Date: 24/08/2024 20:49:31
From: dv
ID: 2189461
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Nothing gets AG angrier than electoral commissions doing the wrong 2pp counts… His contempt is palpable.

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Date: 24/08/2024 20:51:37
From: dv
ID: 2189463
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Peak Warming Man said:


I’m going to bed.
I’d be very surprised if the CLP don’t win it from there but funnier things have happened at sea, apparently.

It’s cooked.

I would expect they’ll end with 15 from here.

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Date: 24/08/2024 20:57:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2189464
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

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Date: 24/08/2024 21:17:19
From: party_pants
ID: 2189474
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:



I watched that yesterday. It was heavy going.

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Date: 24/08/2024 21:36:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2189481
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

ah well this should be good for the environment

I guess. Seems the NT Greens will pick up a seat.

Looks certain ALP will lose the upcoming Qld election as well. Worse things happen at sea.

ACT election is coming up as well, but it seems v likely that will continue to be a shared govt between Greens and ALP.

we were rather hoping that the shift would be globally greenward but ah well

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Date: 24/08/2024 21:37:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2189482
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL


I’m going to bed.
I’d be very surprised if the CLP don’t win it from there but funnier things have happened at sea, apparently.

It’s cooked.

I would expect they’ll end with 15 from here.

the only thing we found interesting was that Peak Warming Man was going backward in time

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Date: 24/08/2024 21:49:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2189485
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:



It’s just a way of shutting women up and ensuring that they’re not entitled to any spaces of their own.

All the men have to do is put on a stupid wig and resume control.

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Date: 24/08/2024 21:51:09
From: dv
ID: 2189486
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Lia Finocchiaro is the new CM of the NT. At 39 quite young for the position.

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Date: 24/08/2024 21:51:34
From: dv
ID: 2189487
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’m going to bed.
I’d be very surprised if the CLP don’t win it from there but funnier things have happened at sea, apparently.

It’s cooked.

I would expect they’ll end with 15 from here.

the only thing we found interesting was that Peak Warming Man was going backward in time

He’s a talented man

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Date: 25/08/2024 09:25:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2189559
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

So yous’ll all remember how bystanders used to be excoriated for simply standing by watching crimes unfolding and filming passively on their mobile devices but apparently now same bystanders can claim to be immediately and directly helping law enforcement¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-25/nsw-triple-0-calls-can-ow-be-live-streamed/104267118

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Date: 25/08/2024 14:06:24
From: dv
ID: 2189737
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/single-mums-rise-from-centrelink-to-aussie-property-millionaire-anyone-can-do-it-050557500.html

ROFLMFAO … at this point I’m sure that these journalists are just trying trolling millennials. There’s no way someone could submit this story with a straight face. It has become a category of meme.

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Single mum’s rise from Centrelink to Aussie property millionaire: ‘Anyone can do it’
The 26-year-old has shared how she is now building wealth for herself and her young daughter.

An Aussie mum has shared how she went from being unemployed and relying on Centrelink payments to owning three properties and building a share portfolio worth $20,000. The 26-year-old said anyone could start building their wealth even if they weren’t “super wealthy”.

“I found out I was pregnant and didn’t work because no one would hire me. I did not work for two years,” the Central Coast resident said.

“I was a single mum and to try and find a job with a newborn baby is tough, especially breastfeeding, I couldn’t leave her, it was very tough.”

Lorking said she relied on the single parenting payment from Centrelink to get by after her daughter’s birth. She eventually picked up a casual weekend job doing promo work and off the back of this landed a full-time job in marketing, which she said she could do from home whilst juggling her daughter.

Lorking said there was one major reason why she was able to buy her first property in 2019, a three-bedroom home on the Central Coast where she now lives with her five-year-old daughter.

“I bought that property with an inheritance that I got. That was kind of the biggest reason that I was able to afford that property,” she said.

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Date: 25/08/2024 14:08:54
From: OCDC
ID: 2189740
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/single-mums-rise-from-centrelink-to-aussie-property-millionaire-anyone-can-do-it-050557500.html

ROFLMFAO … at this point I’m sure that these journalists are just trying trolling millennials. There’s no way someone could submit this story with a straight face. It has become a category of meme.

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Single mum’s rise from Centrelink to Aussie property millionaire: ‘Anyone can do it’
The 26-year-old has shared how she is now building wealth for herself and her young daughter.

An Aussie mum has shared how she went from being unemployed and relying on Centrelink payments to owning three properties and building a share portfolio worth $20,000. The 26-year-old said anyone could start building their wealth even if they weren’t “super wealthy”.

“I found out I was pregnant and didn’t work because no one would hire me. I did not work for two years,” the Central Coast resident said.

“I was a single mum and to try and find a job with a newborn baby is tough, especially breastfeeding, I couldn’t leave her, it was very tough.”

Lorking said she relied on the single parenting payment from Centrelink to get by after her daughter’s birth. She eventually picked up a casual weekend job doing promo work and off the back of this landed a full-time job in marketing, which she said she could do from home whilst juggling her daughter.

Lorking said there was one major reason why she was able to buy her first property in 2019, a three-bedroom home on the Central Coast where she now lives with her five-year-old daughter.

“I bought that property with an inheritance that I got. That was kind of the biggest reason that I was able to afford that property,” she said.

lolz

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Date: 25/08/2024 14:08:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2189741
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/single-mums-rise-from-centrelink-to-aussie-property-millionaire-anyone-can-do-it-050557500.html

ROFLMFAO … at this point I’m sure that these journalists are just trying trolling millennials. There’s no way someone could submit this story with a straight face. It has become a category of meme.

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Single mum’s rise from Centrelink to Aussie property millionaire: ‘Anyone can do it’
The 26-year-old has shared how she is now building wealth for herself and her young daughter.

An Aussie mum has shared how she went from being unemployed and relying on Centrelink payments to owning three properties and building a share portfolio worth $20,000. The 26-year-old said anyone could start building their wealth even if they weren’t “super wealthy”.

“I found out I was pregnant and didn’t work because no one would hire me. I did not work for two years,” the Central Coast resident said.

“I was a single mum and to try and find a job with a newborn baby is tough, especially breastfeeding, I couldn’t leave her, it was very tough.”

Lorking said she relied on the single parenting payment from Centrelink to get by after her daughter’s birth. She eventually picked up a casual weekend job doing promo work and off the back of this landed a full-time job in marketing, which she said she could do from home whilst juggling her daughter.

Lorking said there was one major reason why she was able to buy her first property in 2019, a three-bedroom home on the Central Coast where she now lives with her five-year-old daughter.

“I bought that property with an inheritance that I got. That was kind of the biggest reason that I was able to afford that property,” she said.

Rich relatives who are near to kicking the bucket. Everyone’s got those. ‘Anyone can do it’.

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Date: 25/08/2024 14:09:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 2189742
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/single-mums-rise-from-centrelink-to-aussie-property-millionaire-anyone-can-do-it-050557500.html

ROFLMFAO … at this point I’m sure that these journalists are just trying trolling millennials. There’s no way someone could submit this story with a straight face. It has become a category of meme.

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Single mum’s rise from Centrelink to Aussie property millionaire: ‘Anyone can do it’
The 26-year-old has shared how she is now building wealth for herself and her young daughter.

An Aussie mum has shared how she went from being unemployed and relying on Centrelink payments to owning three properties and building a share portfolio worth $20,000. The 26-year-old said anyone could start building their wealth even if they weren’t “super wealthy”.

“I found out I was pregnant and didn’t work because no one would hire me. I did not work for two years,” the Central Coast resident said.

“I was a single mum and to try and find a job with a newborn baby is tough, especially breastfeeding, I couldn’t leave her, it was very tough.”

Lorking said she relied on the single parenting payment from Centrelink to get by after her daughter’s birth. She eventually picked up a casual weekend job doing promo work and off the back of this landed a full-time job in marketing, which she said she could do from home whilst juggling her daughter.

Lorking said there was one major reason why she was able to buy her first property in 2019, a three-bedroom home on the Central Coast where she now lives with her five-year-old daughter.

“I bought that property with an inheritance that I got. That was kind of the biggest reason that I was able to afford that property,” she said.

I couldn’t read it and keep a straight face.

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Date: 25/08/2024 14:10:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 2189745
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/single-mums-rise-from-centrelink-to-aussie-property-millionaire-anyone-can-do-it-050557500.html

ROFLMFAO … at this point I’m sure that these journalists are just trying trolling millennials. There’s no way someone could submit this story with a straight face. It has become a category of meme.

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Single mum’s rise from Centrelink to Aussie property millionaire: ‘Anyone can do it’
The 26-year-old has shared how she is now building wealth for herself and her young daughter.

An Aussie mum has shared how she went from being unemployed and relying on Centrelink payments to owning three properties and building a share portfolio worth $20,000. The 26-year-old said anyone could start building their wealth even if they weren’t “super wealthy”.

“I found out I was pregnant and didn’t work because no one would hire me. I did not work for two years,” the Central Coast resident said.

“I was a single mum and to try and find a job with a newborn baby is tough, especially breastfeeding, I couldn’t leave her, it was very tough.”

Lorking said she relied on the single parenting payment from Centrelink to get by after her daughter’s birth. She eventually picked up a casual weekend job doing promo work and off the back of this landed a full-time job in marketing, which she said she could do from home whilst juggling her daughter.

Lorking said there was one major reason why she was able to buy her first property in 2019, a three-bedroom home on the Central Coast where she now lives with her five-year-old daughter.

“I bought that property with an inheritance that I got. That was kind of the biggest reason that I was able to afford that property,” she said.

Rich relatives who are near to kicking the bucket. Everyone’s got those. ‘Anyone can do it’.

Nup. Nobody left to leave me anything.

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Date: 25/08/2024 14:13:44
From: Michael V
ID: 2189749
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/single-mums-rise-from-centrelink-to-aussie-property-millionaire-anyone-can-do-it-050557500.html

ROFLMFAO … at this point I’m sure that these journalists are just trying trolling millennials. There’s no way someone could submit this story with a straight face. It has become a category of meme.

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Single mum’s rise from Centrelink to Aussie property millionaire: ‘Anyone can do it’
The 26-year-old has shared how she is now building wealth for herself and her young daughter.

An Aussie mum has shared how she went from being unemployed and relying on Centrelink payments to owning three properties and building a share portfolio worth $20,000. The 26-year-old said anyone could start building their wealth even if they weren’t “super wealthy”.

“I found out I was pregnant and didn’t work because no one would hire me. I did not work for two years,” the Central Coast resident said.

“I was a single mum and to try and find a job with a newborn baby is tough, especially breastfeeding, I couldn’t leave her, it was very tough.”

Lorking said she relied on the single parenting payment from Centrelink to get by after her daughter’s birth. She eventually picked up a casual weekend job doing promo work and off the back of this landed a full-time job in marketing, which she said she could do from home whilst juggling her daughter.

Lorking said there was one major reason why she was able to buy her first property in 2019, a three-bedroom home on the Central Coast where she now lives with her five-year-old daughter.

“I bought that property with an inheritance that I got. That was kind of the biggest reason that I was able to afford that property,” she said.

Helps to get a big inheritance…

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Date: 25/08/2024 14:16:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 2189751
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Michael V said:


dv said:

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/single-mums-rise-from-centrelink-to-aussie-property-millionaire-anyone-can-do-it-050557500.html

ROFLMFAO … at this point I’m sure that these journalists are just trying trolling millennials. There’s no way someone could submit this story with a straight face. It has become a category of meme.

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Single mum’s rise from Centrelink to Aussie property millionaire: ‘Anyone can do it’
The 26-year-old has shared how she is now building wealth for herself and her young daughter.

An Aussie mum has shared how she went from being unemployed and relying on Centrelink payments to owning three properties and building a share portfolio worth $20,000. The 26-year-old said anyone could start building their wealth even if they weren’t “super wealthy”.

“I found out I was pregnant and didn’t work because no one would hire me. I did not work for two years,” the Central Coast resident said.

“I was a single mum and to try and find a job with a newborn baby is tough, especially breastfeeding, I couldn’t leave her, it was very tough.”

Lorking said she relied on the single parenting payment from Centrelink to get by after her daughter’s birth. She eventually picked up a casual weekend job doing promo work and off the back of this landed a full-time job in marketing, which she said she could do from home whilst juggling her daughter.

Lorking said there was one major reason why she was able to buy her first property in 2019, a three-bedroom home on the Central Coast where she now lives with her five-year-old daughter.

“I bought that property with an inheritance that I got. That was kind of the biggest reason that I was able to afford that property,” she said.

Helps to get a big inheritance…

I live in hope that some rich forgotten relative, remembers me.

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Date: 25/08/2024 14:46:25
From: dv
ID: 2189755
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

It’s the obliviousness of it that gets to me. “Anyone can do it even if you’re not super rich”.
If you bought a house with an inheritance at age 21, you’re super rich. You’d be in the top fraction of a percent of 21 year olds.

I’ve been lucky enough to be in a position to assist my kids but you can’t be unaware that there are plenty of people who through no fault of their own are not.
When I was a young adult in the 1990s the gulf between people whose parents had money and those who did not was huge. Every single thing is harder: two people might be on the same wage but one gets given his first car, the other has to save for half a year for a deposit so they can get a loan with a terrible rate. One can save most of their income because they are at their parents’ home, the other spends 95% of their income covering basic rent snd bills. One gets their start in real estate relying on parental equity or guarantorship, the other has to scrimp for a decade to get a deposit together. Like the man said, being poor is very expensive.
But now, thirty years on, it’s much worse. I can’t even imagine what it is like for a young person starting out now whose parents can’t help them, getting ordinary pay while starter homes start near a million dollars. If Yfinance wants to write articles aimed at the yachty set, that’s fine, but there’s got to be a place for articles aimed at people literally starting from scratch who want a realistic plan for home ownership.

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Date: 25/08/2024 15:00:38
From: Kingy
ID: 2189765
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


It’s the obliviousness of it that gets to me. “Anyone can do it even if you’re not super rich”.
If you bought a house with an inheritance at age 21, you’re super rich. You’d be in the top fraction of a percent of 21 year olds.

I’ve been lucky enough to be in a position to assist my kids but you can’t be unaware that there are plenty of people who through no fault of their own are not.
When I was a young adult in the 1990s the gulf between people whose parents had money and those who did not was huge. Every single thing is harder: two people might be on the same wage but one gets given his first car, the other has to save for half a year for a deposit so they can get a loan with a terrible rate. One can save most of their income because they are at their parents’ home, the other spends 95% of their income covering basic rent snd bills. One gets their start in real estate relying on parental equity or guarantorship, the other has to scrimp for a decade to get a deposit together. Like the man said, being poor is very expensive.
But now, thirty years on, it’s much worse. I can’t even imagine what it is like for a young person starting out now whose parents can’t help them, getting ordinary pay while starter homes start near a million dollars. If Yfinance wants to write articles aimed at the yachty set, that’s fine, but there’s got to be a place for articles aimed at people literally starting from scratch who want a realistic plan for home ownership.

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Date: 25/08/2024 15:03:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2189767
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


It’s the obliviousness of it that gets to me. “Anyone can do it even if you’re not super rich”.
If you bought a house with an inheritance at age 21, you’re super rich. You’d be in the top fraction of a percent of 21 year olds.

I’ve been lucky enough to be in a position to assist my kids but you can’t be unaware that there are plenty of people who through no fault of their own are not.
When I was a young adult in the 1990s the gulf between people whose parents had money and those who did not was huge. Every single thing is harder: two people might be on the same wage but one gets given his first car, the other has to save for half a year for a deposit so they can get a loan with a terrible rate. One can save most of their income because they are at their parents’ home, the other spends 95% of their income covering basic rent snd bills. One gets their start in real estate relying on parental equity or guarantorship, the other has to scrimp for a decade to get a deposit together. Like the man said, being poor is very expensive.
But now, thirty years on, it’s much worse. I can’t even imagine what it is like for a young person starting out now whose parents can’t help them, getting ordinary pay while starter homes start near a million dollars. If Yfinance wants to write articles aimed at the yachty set, that’s fine, but there’s got to be a place for articles aimed at people literally starting from scratch who want a realistic plan for home ownership.

I inherited my parents’ nice property with two houses and three acres etc.

But so did my five other siblings.

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Date: 25/08/2024 15:03:57
From: party_pants
ID: 2189769
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Michael V said:


dv said:

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/single-mums-rise-from-centrelink-to-aussie-property-millionaire-anyone-can-do-it-050557500.html

ROFLMFAO … at this point I’m sure that these journalists are just trying trolling millennials. There’s no way someone could submit this story with a straight face. It has become a category of meme.

—-
Single mum’s rise from Centrelink to Aussie property millionaire: ‘Anyone can do it’
The 26-year-old has shared how she is now building wealth for herself and her young daughter.

An Aussie mum has shared how she went from being unemployed and relying on Centrelink payments to owning three properties and building a share portfolio worth $20,000. The 26-year-old said anyone could start building their wealth even if they weren’t “super wealthy”.

“I found out I was pregnant and didn’t work because no one would hire me. I did not work for two years,” the Central Coast resident said.

“I was a single mum and to try and find a job with a newborn baby is tough, especially breastfeeding, I couldn’t leave her, it was very tough.”

Lorking said she relied on the single parenting payment from Centrelink to get by after her daughter’s birth. She eventually picked up a casual weekend job doing promo work and off the back of this landed a full-time job in marketing, which she said she could do from home whilst juggling her daughter.

Lorking said there was one major reason why she was able to buy her first property in 2019, a three-bedroom home on the Central Coast where she now lives with her five-year-old daughter.

“I bought that property with an inheritance that I got. That was kind of the biggest reason that I was able to afford that property,” she said.

Helps to get a big inheritance…

Well at least she spent it sensibly and bought herself a house. Some would have pissed it all away on high living.

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Date: 25/08/2024 15:09:07
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2189770
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

It’s the obliviousness of it that gets to me. “Anyone can do it even if you’re not super rich”.
If you bought a house with an inheritance at age 21, you’re super rich. You’d be in the top fraction of a percent of 21 year olds.

I’ve been lucky enough to be in a position to assist my kids but you can’t be unaware that there are plenty of people who through no fault of their own are not.
When I was a young adult in the 1990s the gulf between people whose parents had money and those who did not was huge. Every single thing is harder: two people might be on the same wage but one gets given his first car, the other has to save for half a year for a deposit so they can get a loan with a terrible rate. One can save most of their income because they are at their parents’ home, the other spends 95% of their income covering basic rent snd bills. One gets their start in real estate relying on parental equity or guarantorship, the other has to scrimp for a decade to get a deposit together. Like the man said, being poor is very expensive.
But now, thirty years on, it’s much worse. I can’t even imagine what it is like for a young person starting out now whose parents can’t help them, getting ordinary pay while starter homes start near a million dollars. If Yfinance wants to write articles aimed at the yachty set, that’s fine, but there’s got to be a place for articles aimed at people literally starting from scratch who want a realistic plan for home ownership.

I inherited my parents’ nice property with two houses and three acres etc.

But so did my five other siblings.

You should have given them a nice meal of mushrooms.

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Date: 25/08/2024 15:18:41
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2189772
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

dv said:


https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/single-mums-rise-from-centrelink-to-aussie-property-millionaire-anyone-can-do-it-050557500.html

ROFLMFAO … at this point I’m sure that these journalists are just trying trolling millennials. There’s no way someone could submit this story with a straight face. It has become a category of meme.

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Single mum’s rise from Centrelink to Aussie property millionaire: ‘Anyone can do it’
The 26-year-old has shared how she is now building wealth for herself and her young daughter.

An Aussie mum has shared how she went from being unemployed and relying on Centrelink payments to owning three properties and building a share portfolio worth $20,000. The 26-year-old said anyone could start building their wealth even if they weren’t “super wealthy”.

“I found out I was pregnant and didn’t work because no one would hire me. I did not work for two years,” the Central Coast resident said.

“I was a single mum and to try and find a job with a newborn baby is tough, especially breastfeeding, I couldn’t leave her, it was very tough.”

Lorking said she relied on the single parenting payment from Centrelink to get by after her daughter’s birth. She eventually picked up a casual weekend job doing promo work and off the back of this landed a full-time job in marketing, which she said she could do from home whilst juggling her daughter.

Lorking said there was one major reason why she was able to buy her first property in 2019, a three-bedroom home on the Central Coast where she now lives with her five-year-old daughter.

“I bought that property with an inheritance that I got. That was kind of the biggest reason that I was able to afford that property,” she said.

I think it more sad than funny, though it is funny in a sad way.

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Date: 25/08/2024 16:19:53
From: Michael V
ID: 2189777
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/single-mums-rise-from-centrelink-to-aussie-property-millionaire-anyone-can-do-it-050557500.html

ROFLMFAO … at this point I’m sure that these journalists are just trying trolling millennials. There’s no way someone could submit this story with a straight face. It has become a category of meme.

—-
Single mum’s rise from Centrelink to Aussie property millionaire: ‘Anyone can do it’
The 26-year-old has shared how she is now building wealth for herself and her young daughter.

An Aussie mum has shared how she went from being unemployed and relying on Centrelink payments to owning three properties and building a share portfolio worth $20,000. The 26-year-old said anyone could start building their wealth even if they weren’t “super wealthy”.

“I found out I was pregnant and didn’t work because no one would hire me. I did not work for two years,” the Central Coast resident said.

“I was a single mum and to try and find a job with a newborn baby is tough, especially breastfeeding, I couldn’t leave her, it was very tough.”

Lorking said she relied on the single parenting payment from Centrelink to get by after her daughter’s birth. She eventually picked up a casual weekend job doing promo work and off the back of this landed a full-time job in marketing, which she said she could do from home whilst juggling her daughter.

Lorking said there was one major reason why she was able to buy her first property in 2019, a three-bedroom home on the Central Coast where she now lives with her five-year-old daughter.

“I bought that property with an inheritance that I got. That was kind of the biggest reason that I was able to afford that property,” she said.

Helps to get a big inheritance…

Well at least she spent it sensibly and bought herself a house. Some would have pissed it all away on high living.

True.

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Date: 25/08/2024 16:20:56
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2189779
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

Helps to get a big inheritance…

Well at least she spent it sensibly and bought herself a house. Some would have pissed it all away on high living.

True.

The moralising is strong with the forum.

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Date: 25/08/2024 16:24:13
From: dv
ID: 2189780
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

poikilotherm said:


Michael V said:

party_pants said:

Well at least she spent it sensibly and bought herself a house. Some would have pissed it all away on high living.

True.

The moralising is strong with the forum.

It’s not about moralising. It’s about a) journalists being out of touch with the real world and b) priviliged people failing to acknowledge their privilege.
Good luck to her and to anyone else who one the life lottery, but she should frame this as “I started with an advantage that 99% of people will never have and here’s what I did with it.”

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Date: 25/08/2024 18:20:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2189868
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

It’s the obliviousness of it that gets to me. “Anyone can do it even if you’re not super rich”.
If you bought a house with an inheritance at age 21, you’re super rich. You’d be in the top fraction of a percent of 21 year olds.

I’ve been lucky enough to be in a position to assist my kids but you can’t be unaware that there are plenty of people who through no fault of their own are not.
When I was a young adult in the 1990s the gulf between people whose parents had money and those who did not was huge. Every single thing is harder: two people might be on the same wage but one gets given his first car, the other has to save for half a year for a deposit so they can get a loan with a terrible rate. One can save most of their income because they are at their parents’ home, the other spends 95% of their income covering basic rent snd bills. One gets their start in real estate relying on parental equity or guarantorship, the other has to scrimp for a decade to get a deposit together. Like the man said, being poor is very expensive.
But now, thirty years on, it’s much worse. I can’t even imagine what it is like for a young person starting out now whose parents can’t help them, getting ordinary pay while starter homes start near a million dollars. If Yfinance wants to write articles aimed at the yachty set, that’s fine, but there’s got to be a place for articles aimed at people literally starting from scratch who want a realistic plan for home ownership.

I inherited my parents’ nice property with two houses and three acres etc.

But so did my five other siblings.

You should have given them a nice meal of mushrooms.

And therefore then scored further supported accommodation subsidised by the taxpayer via state authority, bargain¡

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Date: 25/08/2024 19:51:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2189908
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Australia offers U.S. a vast new military launchpad in China conflict
Australia is expanding its northern military bases, with U.S. support, to counter China’s growing threat. Critics quip it’s become the “51st state.”

By Michael E. Miller
August 24, 2024 at 5:00 a.m. EDT

ROYAL AUSTRALIAN AIR FORCE BASE TINDAL, Australia — Deep in the outback, a flurry of construction by Australia and the United States is transforming this once quiet military installation into a potential launchpad in case of conflict with China.

Runways are being expanded and strengthened to accommodate the allies’ biggest airplanes, including American B-52 bombers. A pair of massive fuel depots is rising side by side to supply U.S. and Australian fighter jets. And two earth-covered bunkers have been built for U.S. munitions.

But the activity at RAAF Tindal, less than 2,000 miles from the emerging flash points of the South China Sea, isn’t unique. Across Australia, decades-old facilities — many built by the United States during World War II — are now being dusted off or upgraded amid growing fears of another global conflict.

“This is about deterrence,” Australia’s defense minister, Richard Marles, said in an interview. “We’re working together to deter future conflict and to provide for the collective security of the region in which we live.”

The United States has ramped up defense ties with allies across the region, including with the Philippines and Japan, as it tries to fend off an increasingly assertive and aggressive China. Australia offers the United States a stable and friendly government, a small but capable military and a vast expanse from which to stage or resupply military efforts.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, hailing the “the extraordinary strength of our unbreakable alliance with Australia,” said after a meeting with Marles earlier this month that deeper cooperation — including base upgrades and more frequent rotational bomber deployments — would help build “greater peace, stability, and deterrence across the region.”

Australia has also joined the AUKUS agreement, under which the United States and Britain will provide it with nuclear-propelled submarines, some of the world’s most closely guarded technology.

These moves underscore a bigger shift, as Canberra has grown increasingly tight with Washington as they both grow wary of Beijing. Military cooperation has become so extensive that critics quip Australia is becoming the United States’ “51st state.”

Mihai Sora, a former Australian diplomat who is an analyst at the Lowy Institute, a Sydney think tank, has a different metaphor. Australia is “an unsinkable aircraft carrier right at the bottom of the critical maritime sea lanes.”

“As the stakes increase in the South China Sea, as the risk over conflict in Taiwan increases, northern Australia in particular becomes of increasing strategic value for the United States,” Sora said.

American representatives on a recent congressional delegation to Darwin, on Australia’s northern coast, agreed.

“This provides a central base of operations from which to project power,” Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Tex.), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said during the trip.

Some Australian experts, however, argue that the growing U.S. military footprint doesn’t deter conflict with China so much as ensure Australia will be involved.

“I have deep misgivings about the whole enterprise” of increased U.S. military activity in Australia, said Sam Roggeveen, a former Australian intelligence analyst who is also at the Lowy Institute. “It conflates America’s strategic objectives in Asia with ours, and it makes those bases a target.”

Australia’s center-left government inherited AUKUS from a previous conservative administration, but it has embraced the agreement and the broader idea of enhanced U.S.-Australia military cooperation. Still, some critics have accused it of moving too cautiously.

“We need the current plans times 10,” said Peter Jennings, a former senior defense official who has urged Australia’s military to make rapid changes to deter a conflict with China. “The direction is right, but what it needs now is money and serious political effort.”

Catching China’s attention
Australia has been rattled by a decade of growing Chinese military assertiveness in the region. But Beijing’s recent trade war on Canberra and a Chinese security agreement with Australia’s neighbor the Solomon Islands have accelerated Australia’s tilt away from its biggest trading partner and toward the United States.

Australia has spent roughly $1 billion on upgrading the Tindal air force base. Built by U.S. Army engineers in 1942 to stage bombing raids on Japanese targets in Papua New Guinea and Indonesia, Tindal is now the site of dozens of construction projects. A key one is the new parking apron capable of accommodating four of Australia’s biggest planes: KC-30 tankers that can refuel fighter jets and allow for far more distant attacks.

But there are also plans for the United States to build its own parking apron here, big enough for six B-52 bombers capable of reaching mainland China.

“That is absolutely something China would pay attention to,” said Roggeveen.

Marles declined to comment on the increasing rotations mentioned by Austin, but said the trajectory is “an increasing American force posture in Australia.” “We see that as very much in Australia’s national interest,” he said. “People understand that we are living through challenging times, when the global rules-based order is under pressure.”

Darwin, 200 miles north of Tindal, was heavily bombed by Japan during World War II. It has hosted six-month rotations of U.S. Marines since 2012, but what began as a training mission has evolved into a much larger enterprise.

The United States recently built a new fuel depot for the Marines’ MV-22 Ospreys, tilt-rotor aircraft that can take off and land vertically like a helicopter but can transition midair to fly like an airplane. The United States is planning to expand the parking apron here, too, to enable more Osprey operations.

A map provided to the visiting U.S. congressional delegation showed how midair refueling could extend the Ospreys’ range into the South China Sea, the Philippine Sea and to the Solomon Islands.

“As Chairman Xi is looking out at all of this, he’s feeling more deterrence,” McCaul said, pointing to the map. “Our capabilities to respond are getting stronger.”

Australia is also surveying three “bare bases” — skeleton facilities in remote parts of Western Australia and Queensland — with an eye to upgrading them so heavier Australian and American airplanes can use them, said Brigadier Michael Say, who leads Australia’s Force Posture Initiative. He said it’s still being determined whether the United States will pay for some of the improvements.

In the Cocos Islands, tiny coral atolls in the Indian Ocean northwest of the Australian continent and just south of Indonesia, Canberra will soon begin upgrading the airstrip to accommodate heavier military aircraft, including the P-8A Poseidon, a “submarine hunter” that could monitor increased Chinese naval activity in the area. A U.S. Navy construction contract published in June listed the Cocos as a possible project location, but Say said it hasn’t yet been decided whether the United States will contribute.

Diversifying — or redistributing?
These “bare bases,” which stretch for 3,000 miles from east to west, fit a new U.S. strategy of dispersing its forces to prevent China from delivering a knockout blow.

“If one location gets taken out, the U.S. can still project force, it can still replenish and resupply and reinforce its troops,” Sora said. “Australia is fundamental to that but is just one plank in America’s regional force posture.”

Roggeveen questioned, however, whether the United States is actually increasing its capabilities in the region or merely moving assets out of places like Guam, which are more immediately threatened by China’s improving missile capability. Under AUKUS, the United States will begin rotating up to four nuclear-powered submarines through Western Australia in 2027.

“It’s not at all clear to me if the Pacific Fleet is getting more submarines or if they are just being moved from existing commitments in Guam or Pearl Harbor,” Roggeveen said.

Commander Matthew Comer, a spokesperson for U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, said it was too early to say from where the submarines will come.

Even if the subs are moved from Pearl Harbor or San Diego, their rotation through Perth will be “significant strategically,” said Charles Edel, Australia chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. “We are pulling them closer in to where they are needed.”

Some concerns linger in Washington over Australia’s commitment, however. During the visit to Darwin, McCaul and other representatives asked about the 99-year lease a Chinese company holds over the port surrounding the Australian naval base. Australian officials said two reviews had found there wasn’t a security concern, and that in the case of a conflict the port could be nationalized.

“Australia relies on China for prosperity and on America for security,” Rep. Jimmy Panetta (D-Calif.) told The Post. “That’s the balance they are playing.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/08/24/us-military-base-australia-china/?

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Date: 25/08/2024 19:58:52
From: party_pants
ID: 2189910
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Witty Rejoinder said:


Australia offers U.S. a vast new military launchpad in China conflict
Australia is expanding its northern military bases, with U.S. support, to counter China’s growing threat. Critics quip it’s become the “51st state.”

By Michael E. Miller
August 24, 2024 at 5:00 a.m. EDT

ROYAL AUSTRALIAN AIR FORCE BASE TINDAL, Australia — Deep in the outback, a flurry of construction by Australia and the United States is transforming this once quiet military installation into a potential launchpad in case of conflict with China.

Runways are being expanded and strengthened to accommodate the allies’ biggest airplanes, including American B-52 bombers. A pair of massive fuel depots is rising side by side to supply U.S. and Australian fighter jets. And two earth-covered bunkers have been built for U.S. munitions.

But the activity at RAAF Tindal, less than 2,000 miles from the emerging flash points of the South China Sea, isn’t unique. Across Australia, decades-old facilities — many built by the United States during World War II — are now being dusted off or upgraded amid growing fears of another global conflict.

“This is about deterrence,” Australia’s defense minister, Richard Marles, said in an interview. “We’re working together to deter future conflict and to provide for the collective security of the region in which we live.”

The United States has ramped up defense ties with allies across the region, including with the Philippines and Japan, as it tries to fend off an increasingly assertive and aggressive China. Australia offers the United States a stable and friendly government, a small but capable military and a vast expanse from which to stage or resupply military efforts.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, hailing the “the extraordinary strength of our unbreakable alliance with Australia,” said after a meeting with Marles earlier this month that deeper cooperation — including base upgrades and more frequent rotational bomber deployments — would help build “greater peace, stability, and deterrence across the region.”

Australia has also joined the AUKUS agreement, under which the United States and Britain will provide it with nuclear-propelled submarines, some of the world’s most closely guarded technology.

These moves underscore a bigger shift, as Canberra has grown increasingly tight with Washington as they both grow wary of Beijing. Military cooperation has become so extensive that critics quip Australia is becoming the United States’ “51st state.”

Mihai Sora, a former Australian diplomat who is an analyst at the Lowy Institute, a Sydney think tank, has a different metaphor. Australia is “an unsinkable aircraft carrier right at the bottom of the critical maritime sea lanes.”

“As the stakes increase in the South China Sea, as the risk over conflict in Taiwan increases, northern Australia in particular becomes of increasing strategic value for the United States,” Sora said.

American representatives on a recent congressional delegation to Darwin, on Australia’s northern coast, agreed.

“This provides a central base of operations from which to project power,” Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Tex.), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said during the trip.

Some Australian experts, however, argue that the growing U.S. military footprint doesn’t deter conflict with China so much as ensure Australia will be involved.

“I have deep misgivings about the whole enterprise” of increased U.S. military activity in Australia, said Sam Roggeveen, a former Australian intelligence analyst who is also at the Lowy Institute. “It conflates America’s strategic objectives in Asia with ours, and it makes those bases a target.”

Australia’s center-left government inherited AUKUS from a previous conservative administration, but it has embraced the agreement and the broader idea of enhanced U.S.-Australia military cooperation. Still, some critics have accused it of moving too cautiously.

“We need the current plans times 10,” said Peter Jennings, a former senior defense official who has urged Australia’s military to make rapid changes to deter a conflict with China. “The direction is right, but what it needs now is money and serious political effort.”

Catching China’s attention
Australia has been rattled by a decade of growing Chinese military assertiveness in the region. But Beijing’s recent trade war on Canberra and a Chinese security agreement with Australia’s neighbor the Solomon Islands have accelerated Australia’s tilt away from its biggest trading partner and toward the United States.

Australia has spent roughly $1 billion on upgrading the Tindal air force base. Built by U.S. Army engineers in 1942 to stage bombing raids on Japanese targets in Papua New Guinea and Indonesia, Tindal is now the site of dozens of construction projects. A key one is the new parking apron capable of accommodating four of Australia’s biggest planes: KC-30 tankers that can refuel fighter jets and allow for far more distant attacks.

But there are also plans for the United States to build its own parking apron here, big enough for six B-52 bombers capable of reaching mainland China.

“That is absolutely something China would pay attention to,” said Roggeveen.

Marles declined to comment on the increasing rotations mentioned by Austin, but said the trajectory is “an increasing American force posture in Australia.” “We see that as very much in Australia’s national interest,” he said. “People understand that we are living through challenging times, when the global rules-based order is under pressure.”

Darwin, 200 miles north of Tindal, was heavily bombed by Japan during World War II. It has hosted six-month rotations of U.S. Marines since 2012, but what began as a training mission has evolved into a much larger enterprise.

The United States recently built a new fuel depot for the Marines’ MV-22 Ospreys, tilt-rotor aircraft that can take off and land vertically like a helicopter but can transition midair to fly like an airplane. The United States is planning to expand the parking apron here, too, to enable more Osprey operations.

A map provided to the visiting U.S. congressional delegation showed how midair refueling could extend the Ospreys’ range into the South China Sea, the Philippine Sea and to the Solomon Islands.

“As Chairman Xi is looking out at all of this, he’s feeling more deterrence,” McCaul said, pointing to the map. “Our capabilities to respond are getting stronger.”

Australia is also surveying three “bare bases” — skeleton facilities in remote parts of Western Australia and Queensland — with an eye to upgrading them so heavier Australian and American airplanes can use them, said Brigadier Michael Say, who leads Australia’s Force Posture Initiative. He said it’s still being determined whether the United States will pay for some of the improvements.

In the Cocos Islands, tiny coral atolls in the Indian Ocean northwest of the Australian continent and just south of Indonesia, Canberra will soon begin upgrading the airstrip to accommodate heavier military aircraft, including the P-8A Poseidon, a “submarine hunter” that could monitor increased Chinese naval activity in the area. A U.S. Navy construction contract published in June listed the Cocos as a possible project location, but Say said it hasn’t yet been decided whether the United States will contribute.

Diversifying — or redistributing?
These “bare bases,” which stretch for 3,000 miles from east to west, fit a new U.S. strategy of dispersing its forces to prevent China from delivering a knockout blow.

“If one location gets taken out, the U.S. can still project force, it can still replenish and resupply and reinforce its troops,” Sora said. “Australia is fundamental to that but is just one plank in America’s regional force posture.”

Roggeveen questioned, however, whether the United States is actually increasing its capabilities in the region or merely moving assets out of places like Guam, which are more immediately threatened by China’s improving missile capability. Under AUKUS, the United States will begin rotating up to four nuclear-powered submarines through Western Australia in 2027.

“It’s not at all clear to me if the Pacific Fleet is getting more submarines or if they are just being moved from existing commitments in Guam or Pearl Harbor,” Roggeveen said.

Commander Matthew Comer, a spokesperson for U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, said it was too early to say from where the submarines will come.

Even if the subs are moved from Pearl Harbor or San Diego, their rotation through Perth will be “significant strategically,” said Charles Edel, Australia chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. “We are pulling them closer in to where they are needed.”

Some concerns linger in Washington over Australia’s commitment, however. During the visit to Darwin, McCaul and other representatives asked about the 99-year lease a Chinese company holds over the port surrounding the Australian naval base. Australian officials said two reviews had found there wasn’t a security concern, and that in the case of a conflict the port could be nationalized.

“Australia relies on China for prosperity and on America for security,” Rep. Jimmy Panetta (D-Calif.) told The Post. “That’s the balance they are playing.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/08/24/us-military-base-australia-china/?

Meh. Australia has always soughtto ally itself with the largest friendly naval power in the region. First the UK, now with the US. There is no prospect of an alliance on satisfactory terms with the CCP. The CCP are a threat to the region, the biggest threat to peace and prosperity. It is necessary to be prepared for conflict with China, even better to position in advance to achieve deterrence.

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Date: 26/08/2024 09:12:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2189972
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

I inherited my parents’ nice property with two houses and three acres etc.

But so did my five other siblings.

You should have given them a nice meal of mushrooms.

And therefore then scored further supported accommodation subsidised by the taxpayer via state authority, bargain¡

know

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-26/trying-for-prison-time-to-access-housing/104267282

comment

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Date: 26/08/2024 09:21:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 2189974
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You should have given them a nice meal of mushrooms.

And therefore then scored further supported accommodation subsidised by the taxpayer via state authority, bargain¡

know

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-26/trying-for-prison-time-to-access-housing/104267282

comment

There was a time when people did time rather than pay the parking fines.

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Date: 26/08/2024 17:04:01
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2190043
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

AMA furious over ‘two-thirds solution’ at Royal Hobart Hospital emergency department
Amber Wilson
25 August 2024

AMA Tasmania president Michael Lumsden-Steel. Picture: Linda Higginson.

Fury continues to build after news erupted that plans to expand the Royal Hobart Hospital emergency department could be dramatically scaled back.

On Friday, it was reported that members of the emergency department’s management team told staff in a leaked email the redevelopment would not be fit for purpose or meet current or future needs, following a budget cut of $19m to $130m.
While the state government denied the budget had been cut, or that the redevelopment was “on hold”, tensions have continued to flare over what appears to be a significantly “reduced scope” in the project.

These include upgrades to only one level instead of two, and a failure to increase 82 current treatment points to a previously-planned 121.

A treatment point in the emergency department is a space or cubicle where a patient is assessed and cared for after being triaged.

The email also claimed that $50m more would be needed to deliver the project’s original plans.

“Enough is enough,” Michael Lumsden-Steel, the Australian Medical Association Tasmanian branch president, said.
Dr Lumsden-Steel said information from inside the hospital revealed “not one extra lie-down adult acute bed” would come from the $130m redevelopment, which he described as “beyond ridiculous”.

“The proposals aren’t fit for purpose,” he said.

“We see there being no point in developing a solution that’s two-thirds of what we need.”

Dr Lumsden-Steel said while it was apparent costs had blown out due to factors outside the government’s control, “that doesn’t mean you walk away from what you know you need to do”.

“What we’re seeing now is the building costs are blowing out. When you delay starting a project, the costs often get more expensive and that’s exactly what we’re seeing,” he said.

He said the government needed to prioritise its other projects, or reform state taxes, so it would have the revenue it needed for health infrastructure – not only for the emergency department, but also for other projects like the St John’s Park precinct redevelopment.

Labor leader Dean Winter said the government needed to be able to deliver services “fit for today’s needs and future needs”.

“It’s really important that governments deliver on their promises, and this is a 2021 election promise. It needs to be delivered in full,” he said.

“We’ve now got all the evidence from within the department, from the workforce, that this is a promise that is preparing to be broken, and the government is simply denying that’s the case.”

A state government spokesperson again denied there had been budget cuts to the project.

They also said there would be no new or increased taxes under the Liberal government, as committed to at the last election.

Follow @ambervwilson

Mockery.

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Date: 26/08/2024 17:14:50
From: OCDC
ID: 2190044
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Albury-Wodonga hosp upgrade is similarly a balls-up.

Compare this to relatively recent Box Hill hospital redevelopment which was ahead of schedule and under budget – so much under budget that they were able to build an entire extra storey for future needs!

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Date: 26/08/2024 17:38:53
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2190052
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

OCDC said:


Albury-Wodonga hosp upgrade is similarly a balls-up.

Compare this to relatively recent Box Hill hospital redevelopment which was ahead of schedule and under budget – so much under budget that they were able to build an entire extra storey for future needs!

Under budget…….. UNDER BUTGET.
Wait till Sir Humphery hears about this.

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Date: 26/08/2024 18:10:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2190063
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


AMA furious over ‘two-thirds solution’ at Royal Hobart Hospital emergency department
Amber Wilson
25 August 2024

AMA Tasmania president Michael Lumsden-Steel. Picture: Linda Higginson.

Fury continues to build after news erupted that plans to expand the Royal Hobart Hospital emergency department could be dramatically scaled back.

On Friday, it was reported that members of the emergency department’s management team told staff in a leaked email the redevelopment would not be fit for purpose or meet current or future needs, following a budget cut of $19m to $130m.
While the state government denied the budget had been cut, or that the redevelopment was “on hold”, tensions have continued to flare over what appears to be a significantly “reduced scope” in the project.

These include upgrades to only one level instead of two, and a failure to increase 82 current treatment points to a previously-planned 121.

A treatment point in the emergency department is a space or cubicle where a patient is assessed and cared for after being triaged.

The email also claimed that $50m more would be needed to deliver the project’s original plans.

“Enough is enough,” Michael Lumsden-Steel, the Australian Medical Association Tasmanian branch president, said.
Dr Lumsden-Steel said information from inside the hospital revealed “not one extra lie-down adult acute bed” would come from the $130m redevelopment, which he described as “beyond ridiculous”.

“The proposals aren’t fit for purpose,” he said.

“We see there being no point in developing a solution that’s two-thirds of what we need.”

Dr Lumsden-Steel said while it was apparent costs had blown out due to factors outside the government’s control, “that doesn’t mean you walk away from what you know you need to do”.

“What we’re seeing now is the building costs are blowing out. When you delay starting a project, the costs often get more expensive and that’s exactly what we’re seeing,” he said.

He said the government needed to prioritise its other projects, or reform state taxes, so it would have the revenue it needed for health infrastructure – not only for the emergency department, but also for other projects like the St John’s Park precinct redevelopment.

Labor leader Dean Winter said the government needed to be able to deliver services “fit for today’s needs and future needs”.

“It’s really important that governments deliver on their promises, and this is a 2021 election promise. It needs to be delivered in full,” he said.

“We’ve now got all the evidence from within the department, from the workforce, that this is a promise that is preparing to be broken, and the government is simply denying that’s the case.”

A state government spokesperson again denied there had been budget cuts to the project.

They also said there would be no new or increased taxes under the Liberal government, as committed to at the last election.

Follow @ambervwilson

Mockery.

Beyond madness.

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Date: 26/08/2024 18:14:38
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2190065
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Bubblecar said:

Beyond madness.

Would it not be contrary to a long-standing Tasmania tradition to build health infrastructure that’sadequate to community needs?

although it’s not much better in Qld.

I believe that they’ve started excavations for the new Toowoomba hospital. This means that somewher around 2027-2029, we will probably get a hospital that well and truly meets the community’s needs, as they were in about 2017.

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Date: 26/08/2024 18:59:16
From: party_pants
ID: 2190081
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

Beyond madness.

Would it not be contrary to a long-standing Tasmania tradition to build health infrastructure that’sadequate to community needs?

although it’s not much better in Qld.

I believe that they’ve started excavations for the new Toowoomba hospital. This means that somewher around 2027-2029, we will probably get a hospital that well and truly meets the community’s needs, as they were in about 2017.

We do the same here with public transport.

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Date: 26/08/2024 19:09:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2190082
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

26 August 2024
The price of power: ex-Lambies demand staff, budget reform
Matthew Denholm

Jacqui Lambie earlier in August with her then-three Tasmanian MPs. Only Andrew Jenner, left, remains, with Rebekah Pentland and Miriam Beswick now sitting as independents.

Tasmania’s minority Liberal government will need to maintain generous staffing and resourcing for two former Lambie independents, and consider budget and tax reforms, to secure their vital ongoing support to govern.

As was exclusively forecast in The Weekend Australian, two ­balance-of-power Jacqui Lambie Network state MPs on Saturday parted ways with their party, creating uncertainty for the Rockliff government.

The two now independent MPs – Rebekah Pentland and Miriam Beswick – on Sunday restated their willingness to sign new con­fidence and supply agreements to keep the Liberals in office.

“We are committed to providing the certainty and stability Tasmania deserves,” the two MPs said in a statement. “We will continue to offer the Rockliff government supply and confidence.

“We’ll sign a new agreement with the Premier in the coming days and share that agreement publicly once it’s finalised.”
However, the new deal will come at a financial and policy price for the government, which since the March state election has governed with just 14 of the 35 seats in the House of Assembly.

Jacqui Lambie Network parts ways with two of its Tasmanian state MPs

Ms Beswick told The Australian while nothing was set in concrete, the two MPs would expect ongoing staff and resourcing, ­allocated at party-status levels in the now defunct JLN support deal, signed in April. As well, they would want a recommitment to reviews of Right to Information laws and the state Integrity Commission.

The two also wanted the freedom to vote for parliamentary motions binding on the government – a key prohibition under the previous JLN deal.

Ms Beswick, MP for Braddon, said the new agreement could also potentially advance budget responsibility measures recommended by independent econo­mist Saul Eslake’s recent review of state finances.

These include a legislative requirement for political parties to indicate how they will pay for election promises and to publish costings at least nine days before polling day.
Ms Beswick said she also wanted the government to adopt Mr Eslake’s call for a Parliamentary Budget Office to provide independent budgetary advice and costings to MPs. “That could be something that we put into the next agreement,” she said.

In addition, she would consider raising concerns some large mainland-based firms may be avoiding full payroll tax obligations for work-from-home staff.

It is uncertain if a new agreement will be needed with the remaining JLN MP, Andrew Jenner, who appears to be taking a tougher line against the government, including flagging support for a no-confidence motion in Treasurer Michael Ferguson.
Ms Beswick said she and Ms Pentland, likely to sign a single new agreement, wanted sufficient resources to ensure they could play an active parliamentary role.

“We work really hard – I read every piece of legislation and Bek is on every committee,” she said. “We are very aware of the need to protect the staff that we have.”

However, she stressed the two were taking a constructive approach to negotiations and wanted to provide stability. “We’ve already had a chat with the Premier, we want to get it going,” she said. “We’re not going to play silly buggers with it. We have got a ­really good working relationship with the government. It seems they take our issues seriously.”

Ms Beswick said she and Ms Pentland did not want to “rush” a new agreement, which the government will want to ink as soon as possible, and well before parliament resumes on September 10.

Mr Rockliff did not comment on Sunday but cabinet minister Felix Ellis confirmed the government was “working closely with all members of the crossbench and will be developing agreements over coming days”.

Labor leader Dean Winter expressed concern at instability further eroding business confidence.

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Date: 29/08/2024 19:44:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2191007
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

29 August 2024
Jacqui Lambie says she will no longer run candidates in Tasmanian politics
Rob Inglis and Sue Bailey

Senator Jacqui Lambie says she will never again run candidates in Tasmanian politics just six months after securing three seats in parliament and shaping it from the outside as an unlikely kingmaker.

Her shock call comes after she effectively sacked two of her three Jacqui Lambie Network (JLN) state MPs, Rebekah Pentland and Miriam Beswick, because they refused to echo her public calls for Infrastructure Minister Michael Ferguson to resign the portfolio over the debacle surrounding the new Spirit of Tasmania ferries.

Speaking to the Mercury, Senator Lambie said she would not run state candidates again in the future.

“I won’t be standing anyone again but if Andrew wants to run again I owe him that,” she said.
“I promised (former JLN federal candidates) Troy Pfitzner and Chris Hannan that they could run for state so that is why we ran.

“They’re not feeling that great at the moment either, watching everything fall apart and going, ‘Holy s—,’ because we still speak to each other all the time.”

Andrew Jenner, the remaining state member of the Jacqui Lambie Network. Picture: Nikki Davis-Jones

She also said she had apologised to Premier Jeremy Rockliff for the “instability” the split in the JLN had created for the parliament, but reiterated her call for Mr Ferguson to resign as Treasurer after a damning report into the state’s finances was released.

“I am sorry to put Jeremy in that situation. I wanted to leave our relationship intact. I’ve known Jeremy for a very, very long time. I just really feel awful,” she said.

“I do think he’s doing a great job, to be honest with you.”

The maverick senator will still run candidates federally, including in NSW, Queensland, and South Australia.

The JLN signed a confidence and supply agreement with the Rockliff minority government following the March state election but after Mrs Pentland and Mrs Beswick were removed from the party, the pair negotiated a new deal with the Premier as independents.

It is also expected that Mr Jenner will negotiate a fresh agreement with the government.

The JLN ran on a platform of “transparency, accountability, and integrity” but did not release any policies ahead of the election.

robert.inglis@news.com.au

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Date: 29/08/2024 21:52:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2191043
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

we love that parties make claims and people believe them and listen to populist slogans and vote for the most popular choices and then sociology happens and then people tell others not to be so cynical

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Date: 30/08/2024 08:36:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2191073
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

No Cover

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-30/doctor-blocked-from-ambulance-ramping-inquest-into-three-deaths/104287950

Up Here ¡

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Date: 30/08/2024 14:22:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2191256
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Don’t worry the momentum from

NSW Liberal MP Rory Amon has been charged with a number of child sex offences. Mr Amon, MP for Pittwater in Sydney’s Northen Beaches, is accused of five counts of sexual intercourse with a person between 10 and 14 and two counts of attempting sexual intercourse with a person between 10 and 14.

that NT haemorrhage should carry them through.

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Date: 30/08/2024 14:51:39
From: dv
ID: 2191277
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

I suppose I have to salute their dedication to helping people who are not going to vote for them in a trillion years.

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Date: 30/08/2024 20:45:31
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2191408
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

30 August 2024
Woodside hydrogen project withdrawal impacts jobs and investments

Woodside Energy has pulled the pin on its H2Tas project at Bell Bay. Picture by Paul Scambler

Woodside Energy’s decision to pull the pin on its hydrogen based project at Bell Bay will cost the state “billions in investment and thousands of jobs”, state Labor says.
The scrapped project from Woodside, called H2TAS, proposed to construct a commercial scale, renewable hydrogen and ammonia production facility at the site.
The plant would have produced up to 800,000 tonnes of ammonia per year, and use electrolysers of up to 750 megawatts (MW) capacity to produce hydrogen from raw water sourced from the River Tamar, according to Environment Protection Authority Tasmania.
Woodside listed recent advice from relevant local planning authorities that with the scope of the State EPA, H2TAS would need to revise its Notice of Intent to include additional factors such as marine aspects as part of the development approval process.
“At the same time, in Woodside’s view, electrolysis-based hydrogen production in Tasmania is currently challenging, driven by the lack of availability of new renewable energy generation,” a spokesperson for Woodside said.
The company said it would consider proposing a new Notice of Intent in the future for a revised H2TAS project if it was “appropriate in the future”.
Loss prompts concern from region’s mayor
George Town mayor Greg Kieser said Bell Bay was a “fantastic investment destination”.
George Town mayor Greg Kieser said he was disappointed to hear the news.
“There are many who would agree with me that Bell Bay is a fantastic investment destination,” Cr Kieser said.
“We are the most significant heavy industrial area in Tasmania.
“We have a great business case, but ultimately we need to be weighing these things for the benefit of Tasmania.”
Labor energy spokesperson Janie Finlay said the state government was letting down existing businesses and impacting investment into Tasmania.
Labor energy spokesperson Janie Finlay said thousands of jobs have been lost due to Woodside Energy pulling out.
“This follows the loss of Fortescue Future Industries (FFI) and Origin,” Ms Finlay said.
“Before leaving the state, Andrew Forrest said FFI was told there was no power available at any price, a statement Hydro Tasmania admits was made to at least 11 other proponents.
“Peter Dutton’s proposed policy to abolish the Rewiring the Nation Fund would kill Marinus Link, kill new windfarms and make matters even worse.”
Be patient, Energy Minister says
Energy Minister Nick Duigan said Woodside remained a “viable hydrogen proponent”.
“I think it’s really important to understand that hydrogen is a long lead time,” Mr Duigan said.
“We are aware there are challenges in developing a new industry and that there is strong global competition for capital and technology.
“We signed our hydrogen deal with the federal government in January this year. We are working to deliver one of, if not the best hydrogen hub opportunity right here at Bell Bay.”

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Date: 30/08/2024 20:49:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2191410
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


30 August 2024
Woodside hydrogen project withdrawal impacts jobs and investments

Woodside Energy has pulled the pin on its H2Tas project at Bell Bay. Picture by Paul Scambler

Woodside Energy’s decision to pull the pin on its hydrogen based project at Bell Bay will cost the state “billions in investment and thousands of jobs”, state Labor says.
The scrapped project from Woodside, called H2TAS, proposed to construct a commercial scale, renewable hydrogen and ammonia production facility at the site.
The plant would have produced up to 800,000 tonnes of ammonia per year, and use electrolysers of up to 750 megawatts (MW) capacity to produce hydrogen from raw water sourced from the River Tamar, according to Environment Protection Authority Tasmania.
Woodside listed recent advice from relevant local planning authorities that with the scope of the State EPA, H2TAS would need to revise its Notice of Intent to include additional factors such as marine aspects as part of the development approval process.
“At the same time, in Woodside’s view, electrolysis-based hydrogen production in Tasmania is currently challenging, driven by the lack of availability of new renewable energy generation,” a spokesperson for Woodside said.
The company said it would consider proposing a new Notice of Intent in the future for a revised H2TAS project if it was “appropriate in the future”.
Loss prompts concern from region’s mayor
George Town mayor Greg Kieser said Bell Bay was a “fantastic investment destination”.
George Town mayor Greg Kieser said he was disappointed to hear the news.
“There are many who would agree with me that Bell Bay is a fantastic investment destination,” Cr Kieser said.
“We are the most significant heavy industrial area in Tasmania.
“We have a great business case, but ultimately we need to be weighing these things for the benefit of Tasmania.”
Labor energy spokesperson Janie Finlay said the state government was letting down existing businesses and impacting investment into Tasmania.
Labor energy spokesperson Janie Finlay said thousands of jobs have been lost due to Woodside Energy pulling out.
“This follows the loss of Fortescue Future Industries (FFI) and Origin,” Ms Finlay said.
“Before leaving the state, Andrew Forrest said FFI was told there was no power available at any price, a statement Hydro Tasmania admits was made to at least 11 other proponents.
“Peter Dutton’s proposed policy to abolish the Rewiring the Nation Fund would kill Marinus Link, kill new windfarms and make matters even worse.”
Be patient, Energy Minister says
Energy Minister Nick Duigan said Woodside remained a “viable hydrogen proponent”.
“I think it’s really important to understand that hydrogen is a long lead time,” Mr Duigan said.
“We are aware there are challenges in developing a new industry and that there is strong global competition for capital and technology.
“We signed our hydrogen deal with the federal government in January this year. We are working to deliver one of, if not the best hydrogen hub opportunity right here at Bell Bay.”

Que sera sera.

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Date: 31/08/2024 20:00:27
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2191722
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

A slight humble brag …. At the finale of Julia and had the opportunity to meet actual Julia Gillard.. we chatted for about 20min about all things Aust and US politics..

She is awesome

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Date: 31/08/2024 20:02:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2191723
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

diddly-squat said:

A slight humble brag …. At the finale of Julia and had the opportunity to meet actual Julia Gillard.. we chatted for about 20min about all things Aust and US politics..

She is awesome

agreed. deserved better from us all.

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Date: 31/08/2024 20:04:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 2191727
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


diddly-squat said:

A slight humble brag …. At the finale of Julia and had the opportunity to meet actual Julia Gillard.. we chatted for about 20min about all things Aust and US politics..

She is awesome

agreed. deserved better from us all.

I never knocked her. I did believe that she deserved better respect from all.

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Date: 31/08/2024 22:37:06
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2191770
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

Amazing play, if you get the chance to see it, just go…

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Date: 31/08/2024 22:58:09
From: dv
ID: 2191773
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

diddly-squat said:

A slight humble brag …. At the finale of Julia and had the opportunity to meet actual Julia Gillard.. we chatted for about 20min about all things Aust and US politics..

She is awesome

Good

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Date: 1/09/2024 14:44:26
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2191964
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM_hL9cqD20

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Date: 1/09/2024 14:55:35
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2191967
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM_hL9cqD20

So, he failed at whatever job he was attempting with that American consulting firm?

Actually, that’s a stupid question. Of course he failed at it.

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Date: 1/09/2024 15:01:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2191972
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM_hL9cqD20

So, he failed at whatever job he was attempting with that American consulting firm?

Actually, that’s a stupid question. Of course he failed at it.

he’s still doing it. it isn’t a real job.

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Date: 1/09/2024 15:18:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2191979
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

sarahs mum said:


captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM_hL9cqD20

So, he failed at whatever job he was attempting with that American consulting firm?

Actually, that’s a stupid question. Of course he failed at it.

he’s still doing it. it isn’t a real job.

That’ll only prove to be doubly embarrassing, when he fails at something that isn’t even a real job.

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Date: 1/09/2024 15:42:03
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2191987
Subject: re: Australian politics - August 2024

ABC News:

As John Clarke once put it:

if people want to be able to express their views, have their views given proper attention, and see those views reflected in the formulation of policy, then they should move to some country where that sort of nonsense is tolerated.

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