lol.

JudgeMental said:

lol.

Yeah But Who Are The Fascist Billionaires Now

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

lol.

Yeah But Who Are The Fascist Billionaires Now

well, two aren’t.

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

lol.

Yeah But Who Are The Fascist Billionaires Now

For the benefit of anyone else out there who forgets stuff that really deserves to be remembered:

Hedy Lamarr

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

lol.

Yeah But Who Are The Fascist Billionaires Now

For the benefit of anyone else out there who forgets stuff that really deserves to be remembered:

Hedy Lamarr

TIL.

Thanks.

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

Yeah But Who Are The Fascist Billionaires Now

For the benefit of anyone else out there who forgets stuff that really deserves to be remembered:

Hedy Lamarr

TIL.

Thanks.

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

For the benefit of anyone else out there who forgets stuff that really deserves to be remembered:

Hedy Lamarr

TIL.

Thanks.

Yet more Bingeing required for that, even though I’ve seen Blazing Saddles more than once (and actually remember bits of it).

OCDC said:

but is she red and is she a queen

OCDC said:

I totally agree.

sarahs mum said:

:)

dv said:

LOL

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

Yeah But Who Are The Fascist Billionaires Now

For the benefit of anyone else out there who forgets stuff that really deserves to be remembered:

Hedy Lamarr

TIL.

Thanks.

Very interesting person.

dv said:

Nice…

OCDC said:

is that kemal otter turk?

OCDC said:

Dear oh dear.

JudgeMental said:

OCDC said:

is that kemal otter turk?

FMD

Peak Warming Man said:

OCDC said:

Dear oh dear.

FMD PWM is my mum!

OCDC said:

Peak Warming Man said:

OCDC said:

Dear oh dear.

FMD PWM is my mum!

And I saw your FMD after submitting my own.

now do udder pradesh

dv said:

LOL

purulent

JudgeMental said:

Omfg

This is going straight on my Bumble profile

dv said:

JudgeMental said:

Omfg

(y)

My post from 7 years ago.

Sometimes I forget how funny I am.

dv said:

My post from 7 years ago.

Sometimes I forget how funny I am.

I shall ponder that as I go about my business this morning.

dv said:

My post from 7 years ago.

Sometimes I forget how funny I am.

Having metallic fillings probably wouldn’t make much difference to your life expectancy within that distance. 3MT is likely to tear your molecules apart and turn you into a faint smear.

Larry Tesler, inventor of the cut, copy and paste commands, dies at 74

esselte said:

Larry Tesler, inventor of the cut, copy and paste commands, dies at 74

Ctrl x

esselte said:

Larry Tesler, inventor of the cut, copy and paste commands, dies at 74

wait so they ¿ invented PrtScn as well

Tamb said:

esselte said:

Larry Tesler, inventor of the cut, copy and paste commands, dies at 74

Ctrl x

Shift-Del

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

esselte said:

Larry Tesler, inventor of the cut, copy and paste commands, dies at 74

Ctrl x

Shift-Del

Are you a covert Apple person?

esselte said:

Larry Tesler, inventor of the cut, copy and paste commands, dies at 74

Well that one does seem to be never-ending.

SCIENCE said:

esselte said:

Larry Tesler, inventor of the cut, copy and paste commands, dies at 74

wait so they ¿ invented PrtScn as well

We’re all about Windows logo key + Shift + S these days.

Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

Ctrl x

Shift-Del

Are you a covert Apple person?

DOS

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

Shift-Del

Are you a covert Apple person?

DOS

It’s been a while.

JudgeMental said:

Would have been better with a cat…

JudgeMental said:

Damn

dv said:

Heh.

I wonder if there is any plant equivalent of happiness.

dv said:

:)

Kingy said:

I had been wondering why she got zero points.

So, i watched the video of her dance.

I’m no expert on break-dancing, but i saw a number of exhibitions of it in Sydney streets in the 1980s.

Based on that admittedly limited base of reference, i would have judged the young lady’s effort as ‘really?’, and i see no reason disagree with the score that was awarded.

fsm said:

i cant work it out.

sarahs mum said:

fsm said:

i cant work it out.

It’s the cut out hole for lifting the box.

kii said:

sarahs mum said:

fsm said:

i cant work it out.

It’s the cut out hole for lifting the box.

thank you. that works.

sarahs mum said:

kii said:

sarahs mum said:

i cant work it out.

It’s the cut out hole for lifting the box.

thank you. that works.

+1

Spiny Norman said:

I earthworks has taught me anything, it’s a tree root.

Spiny Norman said:

Yair. Tree roots.

OCDC said:

That sounds like the deadly dancer.

roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

Yair. Tree roots.

You guys can say what you like.

I’m waiting for Arts to have a look.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

Yair. Tree roots.

You guys can say what you like.

I’m waiting for Arts to have a look.

:)

dv said:

Is that your work?

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Is that your work?

No

dv said:

Bela Lugosi would have made a very eccentric Holmes.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Bela Lugosi would have made a very eccentric Holmes.

I’ll tell you one anomalous thing, which is that I’ve not seen the 1994 Frankenstein movie. I’m normally a big Branagh completist.

Yes, I know it isn’t true, but…

Bogsnorkler said:

Yes, I know it isn’t true, but…

But it doesn’t say NOTFURFÜKENON.

dv said:

I’ll tell you one anomalous thing, which is that I’ve not seen the 1994 Frankenstein movie. I’m normally a big Branagh completist.

Try these clips?

dv said:

Huh?

Evangelion was just a redacted version of the gospel of Luke that the Marcionites used. With all the references to the old testament and fulfillment of prophecies removed.

Some scholars even argue that this was the original version of Luke, and that all the “omitted” parts were actually later additions.

Of course it was all declared heresy by church fathers in the late second century onwards.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Huh?

Evangelion was just a redacted version of the gospel of Luke that the Marcionites used. With all the references to the old testament and fulfillment of prophecies removed.

Some scholars even argue that this was the original version of Luke, and that all the “omitted” parts were actually later additions.

Of course it was all declared heresy by church fathers in the late second century onwards.

The ‘meme’ might have more to do with this:

Neon Genesis Evangelion

link

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

Huh?

Evangelion was just a redacted version of the gospel of Luke that the Marcionites used. With all the references to the old testament and fulfillment of prophecies removed.

Some scholars even argue that this was the original version of Luke, and that all the “omitted” parts were actually later additions.

Of course it was all declared heresy by church fathers in the late second century onwards.

The ‘meme’ might have more to do with this:

Neon Genesis Evangelion

link

Good lord. That genre is not part of my culture.

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

Huh?

Evangelion was just a redacted version of the gospel of Luke that the Marcionites used. With all the references to the old testament and fulfillment of prophecies removed.

Some scholars even argue that this was the original version of Luke, and that all the “omitted” parts were actually later additions.

Of course it was all declared heresy by church fathers in the late second century onwards.

The ‘meme’ might have more to do with this:

Neon Genesis Evangelion

link

Good lord. That genre is not part of my culture.

Nor mine, really.

But, There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy’, or mine.

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

The ‘meme’ might have more to do with this:

Neon Genesis Evangelion

link

Good lord. That genre is not part of my culture.

Nor mine, really.

But, There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy’, or mine.

I was a closet Marcionite before becoming atheist.

Challenger hit, possibly.
6:40 secs in

Link src=”/uploads/c8097992-dd98-4129-954c-f6f1ed50138f.png” />

A rabbit walks into a pub and says to the barman, ‘Can I have a pint of beer, and a Ham and Cheese Toastie?’
The barman is amazed, but gives the rabbit a pint of beer and a ham and cheese toastie.
The rabbit drinks the beer and eats the toastie. He then leaves.
The following night the rabbit returns and again asks for a pint of beer, and a Ham and Cheese Toastie.
The barman, now intrigued by the rabbit and the extra drinkers in the pub, (because word gets round), gives the rabbit the pint and the Toastie. The rabbit consumes them and leaves.
The next night, the pub is packed.
In walks the rabbit and says, ‘A pint of beer and a Ham and Cheese Toastie, please barman.’
The crowd is hushed as the barman gives the rabbit his pint and toastie, and then burst into applause as the rabbit wolfs them down.
The next night there is standing room only in the pub.
Coaches have been laid on for the crowds of patrons attending.
The barman is making more money in one week than he did all last year
In walks the rabbit and says, ‘A pint of beer and a Ham and Cheese Toastie, please barman.’
The barman says, ‘I’m sorry rabbit, old mate, old mucker, but we are right out of them Ham and Cheese Toasties.’
The rabbit looks aghast.
The crowd has quietened to almost a whisper, when the barman clears his throat nervously and says, ‘We do have a very nice Cheese and Onion Toastie.
The rabbit looks him in the eye and says, ‘Are you sure I will like it.’
The crowd’s bated breath is ear shatteringly silent.
The barman, with a roguish smile says, ‘Do you think that I would let down one of my best friends. I know you’ll love it.’
‘Ok,’ says the rabbit, ‘I’ll have a pint of beer and a Cheese and Onion Toastie.’
The pub erupts with glee as the rabbit quaffs the beer and guzzles the toastie.
He then waves to the crowd and leaves….
NEVER TO RETURN!!!!!!
One year later, in the now impoverished public house, the barman, (who has only served 4 drinks tonight, 3 of which were his), calls time.
When he is cleaning down the now empty bar, he sees a small white form, floating above the bar.
The barman says, ‘Who are you?
To which he is answered, ‘I am the ghost of the rabbit that used to frequent your public house.’
The barman says, ‘I remember you. You made me famous.
You would come in every night and have a pint of beer and a Ham and Cheese Toastie. Masses came to see you and this place was famous.’
The rabbit says, ‘Yes I know.’
The barman said, ‘I remember, on your last night we didn’t have any Ham and Cheese Toasties. You had a Cheese and Onion one instead.’
The rabbit said, ‘Yes, you promised me that I would love it.’
The barman said, ‘You never came back, what happened?’
‘I DIED’, said the rabbit.
‘NO!’ said the barman. ‘What from?’
After a short pause, the rabbit said …
‘Mixin-me-toasties

An Goldie But A Kookie

A United States
(A short video)

dv said:

Carry on my Wayward Son was a Supernatural fight the boss song they had at the end of most seasons

Live action Simpsons trailer

fsm said:

Neat.

Michael V said:

fsm said:

Neat.

use the core of a tape tool

fsm said:

QLD cops would have you tasered and face-down on the roadside for using a non-securely mounted hands-free system.

OCDC said:

DV give OCDC her handle back!

fsm said:

Good one.

At the Barstow Air show, a TIE fighter malfunctioned during a
high-performance manoeuvre, causing the pilot to eject. The
TIE fighter spiralled uncontrollably and landed in a sand dune.

TIE = Twin Ion Engines.

Fagradalsfjall volcano in Iceland, it doesn’t look happy.

And …

Utterly infallible.

Spiny Norman said:

Utterly infallible.

I’d be tempted to answer ‘yes’, just to see what happens, and ask them if anyone else has ever said ‘yes’.

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Utterly infallible.

I’d be tempted to answer ‘yes’, just to see what happens, and ask them if anyone else has ever said ‘yes’.

just make sure your house insurance is up to date. especially front door replacement cover.

Bogsnorkler said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Utterly infallible.

I’d be tempted to answer ‘yes’, just to see what happens, and ask them if anyone else has ever said ‘yes’.

just make sure your house insurance is up to date. especially front door replacement cover.

:)

Bogsnorkler said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Utterly infallible.

I’d be tempted to answer ‘yes’, just to see what happens, and ask them if anyone else has ever said ‘yes’.

just make sure your house insurance is up to date. especially front door replacement cover.

Well, i think that they ought to go after the people who answer ‘no’, because isn’t that just what a terrorist would say?!!! Huh?

fsm said:

:)

Michael V said:

fsm said:

:)

It has been here before, that image.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

fsm said:

:)

It has been here before, that image.

Quantum Tunneling

Vanessa Stockard (Australian artist b. 1975)
“Another Day, Another Chair” – 2022
Oil on dibond panel
30 × 30 cm

fsm said:

awful.

sarahs mum said:

fsm said:

awful.

Another stupid joke about women 🙄

kii said:

sarahs mum said:

fsm said:

awful.

Another stupid joke about women 🙄

At Least It’s Not Racist ¡

Wait We Thought It Was A Joke About Men

Dark Orange said:

What if you do all of those, do you get a score of 630 ¿

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

sarahs mum said:

awful.

Another stupid joke about women 🙄

At Least It’s Not Racist ¡

Wait We Thought It Was A Joke About Men

Yes. Yes it is a joke about men. But Not All Men.

Dark Orange said:

Good. I only do the bird watching bit and sporadically rather than regularly.

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

sarahs mum said:

awful.

Another stupid joke about women 🙄

At Least It’s Not Racist ¡

Wait We Thought It Was A Joke About Men

There was gender specifity both ways.

ruby said:

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

Another stupid joke about women 🙄

At Least It’s Not Racist ¡

Wait We Thought It Was A Joke About Men

Yes. Yes it is a joke about men. But Not All Men.

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

SCIENCE said:

At Least It’s Not Racist ¡

Wait We Thought It Was A Joke About Men

Yes. Yes it is a joke about men. But Not All Men.

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

SCIENCE said:

Dark Orange said:

What if you do all of those, do you get a score of 630 ¿

Yes, but no girlfriend.

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

SCIENCE said:

At Least It’s Not Racist ¡

Wait We Thought It Was A Joke About Men

Yes. Yes it is a joke about men. But Not All Men.

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

Roughie, you make jokes like that.

I have lived with this sort of punching down. The sort of punching down that doesn’t leave bruises but definitely leave their own scars.

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

SCIENCE said:

At Least It’s Not Racist ¡

Wait We Thought It Was A Joke About Men

Yes. Yes it is a joke about men. But Not All Men.

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

But so many men still laugh at this crap, thinking it’s clever. How about asking men who use this humour what they mean by it. Ask for an explanation.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

Yes. Yes it is a joke about men. But Not All Men.

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

But so many men still laugh at this crap, thinking it’s clever. How about asking men who use this humour what they mean by it. Ask for an explanation.

we mean like any art the beauty of it is in the beholder and when notracism is mixed with notsexism the focus of the audience on notone or nottheother demonstrates their own underlying notprejudices lol rcr ahahahaha hilarious funny jest

kii said:

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

Yes. Yes it is a joke about men. But Not All Men.

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

But so many men still laugh at this crap, thinking it’s clever. How about asking men who use this humour what they mean by it. Ask for an explanation.

People interpret jokes differently depending on the context they take or make the joke in.

It’s something I first really became aware of years ago when that Scottish guy taught his girlfriends cute little doggy to do Nazi salutes and get excited whenever someone said “Gas the Jews”.

To me, this was a funny mockery of Nazi’s. To others it was an outrageous endorsement of that terrible regime.

I’m Scottish, as is my sister, my mother and my father. None of them would be offended by the joke that prompted this particular discussion. I am not offended by it because I see it as nothing more than gentle mockery of a stereotype – like jokes about NZ’rs fucking sheep. I’ve also spent my whole life around “strong women”. Both my grandmothers had careers, not just jobs but actual life-long careers with promotions that saw them rise in the ranks, respected by their peers etc. My mother worked her whole life (other than maternity leave). My sister, before having her children drove 200 tonne dump trucks at the Kalgoorlie mine. My 8 year old niece plays footy on weekends in a mixed girl/boy local team and is a valued member of that team. None of these women were/are meek or mild or timid or anything like that. They all kick arse and don’t take shit from anyone. All my female friends, girlfriends etc have been the same. I don’t really have a personal context for understanding women who feel disempowered or disenfranchised by the patriarchal disposition of society because I’ve never spent much time around women like that.

So if I laugh at a joke about “spades and clubs rather than hearts and diamonds” it’s not because I think bashing women is funny, it’s because the idea that women can’t be anything but victims is absurd to me and the joke highlights that absurdity, in the same way that a fluffy little terrier saluting Hitler highlights the absurdity of Nazi ideologies.

In the interests of balance:

Scotsmen in TV (Sean Batty, TV meteorologist)

Scotsmen in movies:

Scotsmen in real life:

(Honestly, you can do this for any nationality, it’s likeshooting fish in a barrel.)

captain_spalding said:

In the interests of balance:

Scotsmen in TV (Sean Batty, TV meteorologist)

Scotsmen in movies:

Scotsmen in real life:

(Honestly, you can do this for any nationality, it’s likeshooting fish in a barrel.)

Fish¿ That’s nonbinaryist¡ Violence against transpisces is never acceptable.

esselte said:

that Scottish guy taught his girlfriends cute little doggy to do Nazi salutes and get excited whenever someone said “Gas the Jews”.

To me, this was a funny

Good point, jokes should be interpreted in context, we hear that vapourise the ethnics line around our circles all the time, that makes it hilarious.

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

SCIENCE said:

At Least It’s Not Racist ¡

Wait We Thought It Was A Joke About Men

Yes. Yes it is a joke about men. But Not All Men.

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

Roughie, do you know the connotations of saying that?

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

Yes. Yes it is a joke about men. But Not All Men.

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

Roughie, do you know the connotations of saying that?

The connotations are whatever the person who said it intend them to be, so Roughie is the only person who knows the connotations in that particular context.

SCIENCE said:

esselte said:

that Scottish guy taught his girlfriends cute little doggy to do Nazi salutes and get excited whenever someone said “Gas the Jews”.

To me, this was a funny

Good point, jokes should be interpreted in context, we hear that vapourise the ethnics line around our circles all the time, that makes it hilarious.

You see, I could take SCIENCE’s removal of all context when quoting me and the strawmanning of my position as offensive and start spitting chips at him, or I could appreciate the irony he is using as a jokey riff on the post I made, extending and supporting my point, and give him an LOL. Although I don’t actually know which of these he is doing, I tend to think he is being clever because my over all impression of him is that he is a clever person.

Whether I feel offended or have a little chuckle is a result of my perspective, the context that I take his post in.

So, LOL. Nice one SCIENCE. :)

esselte said:

SCIENCE said:

esselte said:

that Scottish guy taught his girlfriends cute little doggy to do Nazi salutes and get excited whenever someone said “Gas the Jews”.

To me, this was a funny

Good point, jokes should be interpreted in context, we hear that vapourise the ethnics line around our circles all the time, that makes it hilarious.

You see, I could take SCIENCE’s removal of all context when quoting me and the strawmanning of my position as offensive and start spitting chips at him, or I could appreciate the irony he is using as a jokey riff on the post I made, extending and supporting my point, and give him an LOL. Although I don’t actually know which of these he is doing, I tend to think he is being clever because my over all impression of him is that he is a clever person.

Whether I feel offended or have a little chuckle is a result of my perspective, the context that I take his post in.

So, LOL. Nice one SCIENCE. :)

You sure read my NS article quickly :)

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

Roughie, do you know the connotations of saying that?

The connotations are whatever the person who said it intend them to be, so Roughie is the only person who knows the connotations in that particular context.

In the wider context though. I believe roughie would be unaware of its use in online discussions. I don’t think roughie is that type of person who would use it with that meaning.

esselte said:

SCIENCE said:

esselte said:

that Scottish guy taught his girlfriends cute little doggy to do Nazi salutes and get excited whenever someone said “Gas the Jews”.

To me, this was a funny

Good point, jokes should be interpreted in context, we hear that vapourise the ethnics line around our circles all the time, that makes it hilarious.

You see, I could take SCIENCE’s removal of all context when quoting me and the strawmanning of my position as offensive and start spitting chips at him, or I could appreciate the irony he is using as a jokey riff on the post I made, extending and supporting my point, and give him an LOL. Although I don’t actually know which of these he is doing, I tend to think he is being clever because my over all impression of him is that he is a clever person.

Whether I feel offended or have a little chuckle is a result of my perspective, the context that I take his post in.

So, LOL. Nice one SCIENCE. :)

Science loves irony. Just hard sometimes decyphering what he’s saying.

The Rev Dodgson said:

esselte said:

SCIENCE said:

Good point, jokes should be interpreted in context, we hear that vapourise the ethnics line around our circles all the time, that makes it hilarious.

You see, I could take SCIENCE’s removal of all context when quoting me and the strawmanning of my position as offensive and start spitting chips at him, or I could appreciate the irony he is using as a jokey riff on the post I made, extending and supporting my point, and give him an LOL. Although I don’t actually know which of these he is doing, I tend to think he is being clever because my over all impression of him is that he is a clever person.

Whether I feel offended or have a little chuckle is a result of my perspective, the context that I take his post in.

So, LOL. Nice one SCIENCE. :)

You sure read my NS article quickly :)

It was tl;dr

I didn’t agree with the conclusion though.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

Roughie, do you know the connotations of saying that?

The connotations are whatever the person who said it intend them to be, so Roughie is the only person who knows the connotations in that particular context.

so communication should favour the source and not the recipient

Ian said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

esselte said:

You see, I could take SCIENCE’s removal of all context when quoting me and the strawmanning of my position as offensive and start spitting chips at him, or I could appreciate the irony he is using as a jokey riff on the post I made, extending and supporting my point, and give him an LOL. Although I don’t actually know which of these he is doing, I tend to think he is being clever because my over all impression of him is that he is a clever person.

Whether I feel offended or have a little chuckle is a result of my perspective, the context that I take his post in.

So, LOL. Nice one SCIENCE. :)

You sure read my NS article quickly :)

It was tl;dr

I didn’t agree with the conclusion though.

Why not?

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Roughie, do you know the connotations of saying that?

The connotations are whatever the person who said it intend them to be, so Roughie is the only person who knows the connotations in that particular context.

so communication should favour the source and not the recipient

I’m not sure what the source meant by that, so I won’t comment.

esselte said:

SCIENCE said:

could be anyone who said:

that Scottish guy taught his girlfriends cute little doggy to do Nazi salutes and get excited whenever someone said “Gas the Jews”.

To me, this was a funny

Good point, jokes should be interpreted in context, we hear that vapourise the ethnics line around our circles all the time, that makes it hilarious.

You see, I could take SCIENCE’s removal of all context when quoting me and the strawmanning of my position as offensive and start spitting chips at him, or I could appreciate the irony he is using as a jokey riff on the post I made, extending and supporting my point, and give him an LOL. Although I don’t actually know which of these he is doing, I tend to think he is being clever because my over all impression of him is that he is a clever person.

Whether I feel offended or have a little chuckle is a result of my perspective, the context that I take his post in.

So, LOL. Nice one SCIENCE. :)

Thanks but we weren’t removing meaningful context or strawmanning or asserting offence or trying to be clever, we were literally as stated pointing out that in our communities, we hear calls to “vapourise the ethnics” all the time, so acting fascist around those lines was actually entertaining. Or the opposite because, you know, sarcasm is also entertainment.

Whether people take that further as a statement of what some communities are like, or are not like, is up to the audiencepeople.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

You sure read my NS article quickly :)

It was tl;dr

I didn’t agree with the conclusion though.

Why not?

because we believe that at least in good communication (if Not All Communication anyway) the source of communication should respect the perspective of the recipient

I didn’t see anything in the Scottish photos thing. No joke, nothing. Just three people with red hair. I used to have a red beard, and the ends of my hair went red after it got longer than shoulder-length. But then, I am often not good at getting jokes, and I am not offended by red hair.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C-z2EQrOSW_/?

Michael V said:

I didn’t see anything in the Scottish photos thing. No joke, nothing. Just three people with red hair. I used to have a red beard, and the ends of my hair went red after it got longer than shoulder-length. But then, I am often not good at getting jokes, and I am not offended by red hair.

We saw that media portray women a certain biased way, and memememes portray women and bias a certain biased way, and portrayals have truthlike elements to them and portrayals have untruthlike elements to them.

Michael V said:

I didn’t see anything in the Scottish photos thing. No joke, nothing. Just three people with red hair. I used to have a red beard, and the ends of my hair went red after it got longer than shoulder-length. But then, I am often not good at getting jokes, and I am not offended by red hair.

Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger.

I didn’t get the point either, if it had one.

From other peoples’ responses I’m guessing that it’s about discussion of trans-sexual people being quite prominent in Scotland, but it may well be something else entirely.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

I didn’t see anything in the Scottish photos thing. No joke, nothing. Just three people with red hair. I used to have a red beard, and the ends of my hair went red after it got longer than shoulder-length. But then, I am often not good at getting jokes, and I am not offended by red hair.

Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger.

I didn’t get the point either, if it had one.

From other peoples’ responses I’m guessing that it’s about discussion of trans-sexual people being quite prominent in Scotland, but it may well be something else entirely.

no, the original meme was suggesting that despite the way they are portrayed in the media, “in real life” Scottish woman are big and burly and look like men. At least, that’s the way I interpreted it.

diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

I didn’t see anything in the Scottish photos thing. No joke, nothing. Just three people with red hair. I used to have a red beard, and the ends of my hair went red after it got longer than shoulder-length. But then, I am often not good at getting jokes, and I am not offended by red hair.

Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger.

I didn’t get the point either, if it had one.

From other peoples’ responses I’m guessing that it’s about discussion of trans-sexual people being quite prominent in Scotland, but it may well be something else entirely.

no, the original meme was suggesting that despite the way they are portrayed in the media, “in real life” Scottish woman are big and burly and look like men. At least, that’s the way I interpreted it.

Yeah, but that’s just stupid.

(The “meme” that is, not you)

Bogsnorkler said:

I’ve always thought the Four Fundamental Tenants were better

ruby said:

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

Yes. Yes it is a joke about men. But Not All Men.

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

Roughie, you make jokes like that.

I have lived with this sort of punching down. The sort of punching down that doesn’t leave bruises but definitely leave their own scars.

I didn’t make the joke. I’m only saying that some men don’t fit that mould.

The Rev Dodgson said:

diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger.

I didn’t get the point either, if it had one.

From other peoples’ responses I’m guessing that it’s about discussion of trans-sexual people being quite prominent in Scotland, but it may well be something else entirely.

no, the original meme was suggesting that despite the way they are portrayed in the media, “in real life” Scottish woman are big and burly and look like men. At least, that’s the way I interpreted it.

Yeah, but that’s just stupid.

(The “meme” that is, not you)

well yes… and I expect, given the responses, that particular view is shared by more than just you and I.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yeah, but that’s just stupid.

(The “meme” that is, not you)

It is.

Perhaps the point is that all those representations are just as unrepresentative of reality as each other, and that it would be stupid to assume that any of them is representative of the named section of society.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

Yes. Yes it is a joke about men. But Not All Men.

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

But so many men still laugh at this crap, thinking it’s clever. How about asking men who use this humour what they mean by it. Ask for an explanation.

I wasn’t laughing or enabling so don’t keep painting me with that brush, because you are in error.

diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

I didn’t see anything in the Scottish photos thing. No joke, nothing. Just three people with red hair. I used to have a red beard, and the ends of my hair went red after it got longer than shoulder-length. But then, I am often not good at getting jokes, and I am not offended by red hair.

Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger.

I didn’t get the point either, if it had one.

From other peoples’ responses I’m guessing that it’s about discussion of trans-sexual people being quite prominent in Scotland, but it may well be something else entirely.

no, the original meme was suggesting that despite the way they are portrayed in the media, “in real life” Scottish woman are big and burly and look like men. At least, that’s the way I interpreted it.

Yeah, the meme was contrasting Scottish women as portrayed in media with Scottish women as they are in real life, but in an absurdist way (the vast majority of Scottish women do not actually have lush beards or look like men in real life, believe it or not). The absurdity completely negates any actual malice towards the Scotts or Scottish women, IMO. It’s the absurdity that makes it funny. The absurdity is the joke.

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

But so many men still laugh at this crap, thinking it’s clever. How about asking men who use this humour what they mean by it. Ask for an explanation.

we mean like any art the beauty of it is in the beholder and when notracism is mixed with notsexism the focus of the audience on notone or nottheother demonstrates their own underlying notprejudices lol rcr ahahahaha hilarious funny jest

You’re not helping either.

captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yeah, but that’s just stupid.

(The “meme” that is, not you)

It is.

Perhaps the point is that all those representations are just as unrepresentative of reality as each other, and that it would be stupid to assume that any of them is representative of the named section of society.

luckily here, we only make fun of people who deserve to be made fun of…

Well that was a long way around to go to get to “so media literacy is useful” so there.

diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yeah, but that’s just stupid.

(The “meme” that is, not you)

It is.

Perhaps the point is that all those representations are just as unrepresentative of reality as each other, and that it would be stupid to assume that any of them is representative of the named section of society.

luckily here, we only make fun of people who deserve to be made fun of…

Well, there are a few in that category.

SCIENCE said:

Well that was a long way around to go to get to “so media literacy is useful” so there.

Now we can all get some sleep.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

But so many men still laugh at this crap, thinking it’s clever. How about asking men who use this humour what they mean by it. Ask for an explanation.

we mean like any art the beauty of it is in the beholder and when notracism is mixed with notsexism the focus of the audience on notone or nottheother demonstrates their own underlying notprejudices lol rcr ahahahaha hilarious funny jest

You’re not helping either.

OK who else stamped their feet and spanked their bottoms over the inherent racism and colonialism in the image, not only preferring to defend sexgender binaries instead ¿ Also, capitalism is bad ¡

diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

diddly-squat said:

no, the original meme was suggesting that despite the way they are portrayed in the media, “in real life” Scottish woman are big and burly and look like men. At least, that’s the way I interpreted it.

Yeah, but that’s just stupid.

(The “meme” that is, not you)

well yes… and I expect, given the responses, that particular view is shared by more than just you and I.

especially since the middle portrayal is (I suspect) Merida, the strong and capable protagonist from Pixar’s Brave

captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

It is.

Perhaps the point is that all those representations are just as unrepresentative of reality as each other, and that it would be stupid to assume that any of them is representative of the named section of society.

luckily here, we only make fun of people who deserve to be made fun of…

Well, there are a few in that category.

they are deployable anyway

Michael V said:

I didn’t see anything in the Scottish photos thing. No joke, nothing. Just three people with red hair. I used to have a red beard, and the ends of my hair went red after it got longer than shoulder-length. But then, I am often not good at getting jokes, and I am not offended by red hair.

Me neither.

But amused by esselte’s assertion that all those females had heavy red beards.

Arts said:

diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yeah, but that’s just stupid.

(The “meme” that is, not you)

well yes… and I expect, given the responses, that particular view is shared by more than just you and I.

especially since the middle portrayal is (I suspect) Merida, the strong and capable protagonist from Pixar’s Brave

So now the dirty nuance too, are you saying that outward biased appearances can be misrepresentative of underlying otherbiased qualities virtues vices whatevers¿

and then there were the men wearing skirts oh wait

SCIENCE said:

Arts said:

diddly-squat said:

well yes… and I expect, given the responses, that particular view is shared by more than just you and I.

especially since the middle portrayal is (I suspect) Merida, the strong and capable protagonist from Pixar’s Brave

So now the dirty nuance too, are you saying that outward biased appearances can be misrepresentative of underlying otherbiased qualities virtues vices whatevers¿

mirror shattered.

SCIENCE said:

and then there were the men wearing skirts oh wait

Now we’re going to start on the Greeks?!

That’s it, i’m out of here!

Sheesh..still arguing?

esselte said:

diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger.

I didn’t get the point either, if it had one.

From other peoples’ responses I’m guessing that it’s about discussion of trans-sexual people being quite prominent in Scotland, but it may well be something else entirely.

no, the original meme was suggesting that despite the way they are portrayed in the media, “in real life” Scottish woman are big and burly and look like men. At least, that’s the way I interpreted it.

Yeah, the meme was contrasting Scottish women as portrayed in media with Scottish women as they are in real life, but in an absurdist way (the vast majority of Scottish women do not actually have lush beards or look like men in real life, believe it or not). The absurdity completely negates any actual malice towards the Scotts or Scottish women, IMO. It’s the absurdity that makes it funny. The absurdity is the joke.

Also, when it comes to people who do subscribe to horrible values, like women should be bashed or Jews should be gassed, when we laugh at the absurdity of such notions we are laughing at those people. We are refusing to give them any power over us. They don’t scare us. They don’t impress us. We think they are a joke.

Another example, a few days ago Rev asked a question, something like “Why do men not care about their health, why do they avoid going to doctors when they are sick” etc., I replied partially with “Because we are not all punk ass bitches”.

Do people understand, in making that joke I was not denigrating women with the use of the word “bitches” or suggesting some failure in women, that I was in fact making fun of men who genuinely do hold the position that worrying about ones health is no a “manly” thing to do?

esselte said:

esselte said:

diddly-squat said:

no, the original meme was suggesting that despite the way they are portrayed in the media, “in real life” Scottish woman are big and burly and look like men. At least, that’s the way I interpreted it.

Yeah, the meme was contrasting Scottish women as portrayed in media with Scottish women as they are in real life, but in an absurdist way (the vast majority of Scottish women do not actually have lush beards or look like men in real life, believe it or not). The absurdity completely negates any actual malice towards the Scotts or Scottish women, IMO. It’s the absurdity that makes it funny. The absurdity is the joke.

Also, when it comes to people who do subscribe to horrible values, like women should be bashed or Jews should be gassed, when we laugh at the absurdity of such notions we are laughing at those people. We are refusing to give them any power over us. They don’t scare us. They don’t impress us. We think they are a joke.

Another example, a few days ago Rev asked a question, something like “Why do men not care about their health, why do they avoid going to doctors when they are sick” etc., I replied partially with “Because we are not all punk ass bitches”.

Do people understand, in making that joke I was not denigrating women with the use of the word “bitches” or suggesting some failure in women, that I was in fact making fun of men who genuinely do hold the position that worrying about ones health is no a “manly” thing to do?

it would be much easier if we just banned satire altogether

Arts said:

diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yeah, but that’s just stupid.

(The “meme” that is, not you)

well yes… and I expect, given the responses, that particular view is shared by more than just you and I.

especially since the middle portrayal is (I suspect) Merida, the strong and capable protagonist from Pixar’s Brave

Pictish women are short and quite pleasing to the eye.

diddly-squat said:

esselte said:

esselte said:

Yeah, the meme was contrasting Scottish women as portrayed in media with Scottish women as they are in real life, but in an absurdist way (the vast majority of Scottish women do not actually have lush beards or look like men in real life, believe it or not). The absurdity completely negates any actual malice towards the Scotts or Scottish women, IMO. It’s the absurdity that makes it funny. The absurdity is the joke.

Also, when it comes to people who do subscribe to horrible values, like women should be bashed or Jews should be gassed, when we laugh at the absurdity of such notions we are laughing at those people. We are refusing to give them any power over us. They don’t scare us. They don’t impress us. We think they are a joke.

Another example, a few days ago Rev asked a question, something like “Why do men not care about their health, why do they avoid going to doctors when they are sick” etc., I replied partially with “Because we are not all punk ass bitches”.

Do people understand, in making that joke I was not denigrating women with the use of the word “bitches” or suggesting some failure in women, that I was in fact making fun of men who genuinely do hold the position that worrying about ones health is no a “manly” thing to do?

it would be much easier if we just banned satire altogether

How about just toxicity in this forum?
This forum has lost a lot of good people because of it.

There are a lot of very fine people on all sides.

OCDC said:

Fair.

Bogsnorkler said:

Has He Ever Been Charted In Bristol

The Macarena is a traditional Scottish dance which can be traced back to the late 1700’s. It originates from a protest dance devised by families being evicted during the Highland Clearances and was danced in front of landowners to the sound of a lone piper as a means of defiance.

Its popularity swelled however and in 1793 resulted in the town of Macrahanish deciding to build the Mac Arena with floor space for up to 12,000 dancers as people came from all over and at this point Ceilidh bands added some extra flavour on the music front.

As war gripped Europe in the early 1900’s, the dance faded in popularity and was banished to a few rural pubs on Saturday nights only but did have many resurgence’s. One of those was in the late 1940’s, pictured below as it became the dance of choice once again in dance halls across the country.

This was short lived however as Rock n Roll would quickly turn heads during the 50’s and beyond but in the 90’s an unknown Spanish group added a Latin rhythm to the music along with Spanish translation from the original Gaelic lyrics and it once again became popular across the nation and is a must play during birthdays, weddings and family get togethers all over the country today.

Sadly for the Mac Arena it was demolished in 1989 just before the last resurgence and became Scotlands biggest McDonalds. The decision to replace the biggest Macarena venue with Big Macs grates on many locals to this day.

Bogsnorkler said:

The Macarena is a traditional Scottish dance which can be traced back to the late 1700’s. It originates from a protest dance devised by families being evicted during the Highland Clearances and was danced in front of landowners to the sound of a lone piper as a means of defiance.

Its popularity swelled however and in 1793 resulted in the town of Macrahanish deciding to build the Mac Arena with floor space for up to 12,000 dancers as people came from all over and at this point Ceilidh bands added some extra flavour on the music front.

As war gripped Europe in the early 1900’s, the dance faded in popularity and was banished to a few rural pubs on Saturday nights only but did have many resurgence’s. One of those was in the late 1940’s, pictured below as it became the dance of choice once again in dance halls across the country.

This was short lived however as Rock n Roll would quickly turn heads during the 50’s and beyond but in the 90’s an unknown Spanish group added a Latin rhythm to the music along with Spanish translation from the original Gaelic lyrics and it once again became popular across the nation and is a must play during birthdays, weddings and family get togethers all over the country today.

Sadly for the Mac Arena it was demolished in 1989 just before the last resurgence and became Scotlands biggest McDonalds. The decision to replace the biggest Macarena venue with Big Macs grates on many locals to this day.

So many things I never knew about the Macarena, the Mac Arena and the Big Mac Arena.

Who would have guessed that such things went on in Scotland.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

The Macarena is a traditional Scottish dance which can be traced back to the late 1700’s. It originates from a protest dance devised by families being evicted during the Highland Clearances and was danced in front of landowners to the sound of a lone piper as a means of defiance.

Its popularity swelled however and in 1793 resulted in the town of Macrahanish deciding to build the Mac Arena with floor space for up to 12,000 dancers as people came from all over and at this point Ceilidh bands added some extra flavour on the music front.

As war gripped Europe in the early 1900’s, the dance faded in popularity and was banished to a few rural pubs on Saturday nights only but did have many resurgence’s. One of those was in the late 1940’s, pictured below as it became the dance of choice once again in dance halls across the country.

This was short lived however as Rock n Roll would quickly turn heads during the 50’s and beyond but in the 90’s an unknown Spanish group added a Latin rhythm to the music along with Spanish translation from the original Gaelic lyrics and it once again became popular across the nation and is a must play during birthdays, weddings and family get togethers all over the country today.

Sadly for the Mac Arena it was demolished in 1989 just before the last resurgence and became Scotlands biggest McDonalds. The decision to replace the biggest Macarena venue with Big Macs grates on many locals to this day.

So many things I never knew about the Macarena, the Mac Arena and the Big Mac Arena.

Who would have guessed that such things went on in Scotland.

I would have just mae it up :)

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

The Macarena is a traditional Scottish dance which can be traced back to the late 1700’s. It originates from a protest dance devised by families being evicted during the Highland Clearances and was danced in front of landowners to the sound of a lone piper as a means of defiance.

Its popularity swelled however and in 1793 resulted in the town of Macrahanish deciding to build the Mac Arena with floor space for up to 12,000 dancers as people came from all over and at this point Ceilidh bands added some extra flavour on the music front.

As war gripped Europe in the early 1900’s, the dance faded in popularity and was banished to a few rural pubs on Saturday nights only but did have many resurgence’s. One of those was in the late 1940’s, pictured below as it became the dance of choice once again in dance halls across the country.

This was short lived however as Rock n Roll would quickly turn heads during the 50’s and beyond but in the 90’s an unknown Spanish group added a Latin rhythm to the music along with Spanish translation from the original Gaelic lyrics and it once again became popular across the nation and is a must play during birthdays, weddings and family get togethers all over the country today.

Sadly for the Mac Arena it was demolished in 1989 just before the last resurgence and became Scotlands biggest McDonalds. The decision to replace the biggest Macarena venue with Big Macs grates on many locals to this day.

So many things I never knew about the Macarena, the Mac Arena and the Big Mac Arena.

Who would have guessed that such things went on in Scotland.

I would have just mae it up :)

The Bingbot says:

“Actually, the Macarena is not a traditional Scottish dance.”

but what would a bot know about such things?

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

Yes. Yes it is a joke about men. But Not All Men.

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

Roughie, do you know the connotations of saying that?

Connotations go as far as anyone wants to take them.

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Thanks.
It is definitely not ALL men.

Roughie, do you know the connotations of saying that?

Connotations go as far as anyone wants to take them.

However, I don’t have any idea where others might want to take them.

My intention was to not be stereotyped as something I’m not.

Bogsnorkler said:

esselte said:

SCIENCE said:

Good point, jokes should be interpreted in context, we hear that vapourise the ethnics line around our circles all the time, that makes it hilarious.

You see, I could take SCIENCE’s removal of all context when quoting me and the strawmanning of my position as offensive and start spitting chips at him, or I could appreciate the irony he is using as a jokey riff on the post I made, extending and supporting my point, and give him an LOL. Although I don’t actually know which of these he is doing, I tend to think he is being clever because my over all impression of him is that he is a clever person.

Whether I feel offended or have a little chuckle is a result of my perspective, the context that I take his post in.

So, LOL. Nice one SCIENCE. :)

Science loves irony. Just hard sometimes decyphering what he’s saying.

It can be a trial. ;)

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Roughie, do you know the connotations of saying that?

Connotations go as far as anyone wants to take them.

However, I don’t have any idea where others might want to take them.

My intention was to not be stereotyped as something I’m not.

and if you read further you’ll see this is what I surmised. even giving you something to read to enlighten you.

esselte said:

diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger.

I didn’t get the point either, if it had one.

From other peoples’ responses I’m guessing that it’s about discussion of trans-sexual people being quite prominent in Scotland, but it may well be something else entirely.

no, the original meme was suggesting that despite the way they are portrayed in the media, “in real life” Scottish woman are big and burly and look like men. At least, that’s the way I interpreted it.

Yeah, the meme was contrasting Scottish women as portrayed in media with Scottish women as they are in real life, but in an absurdist way (the vast majority of Scottish women do not actually have lush beards or look like men in real life, believe it or not). The absurdity completely negates any actual malice towards the Scotts or Scottish women, IMO. It’s the absurdity that makes it funny. The absurdity is the joke.

That’s simply absurd. ;)

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Connotations go as far as anyone wants to take them.

However, I don’t have any idea where others might want to take them.

My intention was to not be stereotyped as something I’m not.

and if you read further you’ll see this is what I surmised. even giving you something to read to enlighten you.

:) I’ll go back and see if I can spot it.

Dark Orange said:

diddly-squat said:

esselte said:

Also, when it comes to people who do subscribe to horrible values, like women should be bashed or Jews should be gassed, when we laugh at the absurdity of such notions we are laughing at those people. We are refusing to give them any power over us. They don’t scare us. They don’t impress us. We think they are a joke.

Another example, a few days ago Rev asked a question, something like “Why do men not care about their health, why do they avoid going to doctors when they are sick” etc., I replied partially with “Because we are not all punk ass bitches”.

Do people understand, in making that joke I was not denigrating women with the use of the word “bitches” or suggesting some failure in women, that I was in fact making fun of men who genuinely do hold the position that worrying about ones health is no a “manly” thing to do?

it would be much easier if we just banned satire altogether

How about just toxicity in this forum?
This forum has lost a lot of good people because of it.

Could do with less of that which you mention.

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

diddly-squat said:

it would be much easier if we just banned satire altogether

How about just toxicity in this forum?
This forum has lost a lot of good people because of it.

Could do with less of that which you mention.

The toxicity in this forum started with the men and their disrespect. Speaking out about it has some weak males calling me toxic.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

How about just toxicity in this forum?
This forum has lost a lot of good people because of it.

Could do with less of that which you mention.

The toxicity in this forum started with the men and their disrespect. Speaking out about it has some weak males calling me toxic.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

How about just toxicity in this forum?
This forum has lost a lot of good people because of it.

Could do with less of that which you mention.

The toxicity in this forum started with the men and their disrespect. Speaking out about it has some weak males calling me toxic.

Well it isn’t me so stop pointing that finger.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

How about just toxicity in this forum?
This forum has lost a lot of good people because of it.

Could do with less of that which you mention.

The toxicity in this forum started with the men and their disrespect. Speaking out about it has some weak males calling me toxic.

You can be grumpy but fair enough if you are pissed off with the way life is at times or often

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

How about just toxicity in this forum?
This forum has lost a lot of good people because of it.

Could do with less of that which you mention.

The toxicity in this forum started with the men and their disrespect. Speaking out about it has some weak males calling me toxic.

lololol 🤣

roughbarked said:

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Could do with less of that which you mention.

The toxicity in this forum started with the men and their disrespect. Speaking out about it has some weak males calling me toxic.

Well it isn’t me so stop pointing that finger.

Did I point at you? Though you do cosy up to the main offender.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

The toxicity in this forum started with the men and their disrespect. Speaking out about it has some weak males calling me toxic.

Well it isn’t me so stop pointing that finger.

Did I point at you? Though you do cosy up to the main offender.

Fuck, you’ve singled me out with a hate venegance. Did you point at me?

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

esselte said:

So, LOL. Nice one SCIENCE. :)

Science loves irony. Just hard sometimes decyphering what he’s saying.

It can be a trial. ;)

ironised

also yous fellas are fucking hilarious

also a wise man (not woman) once told us that the difference between assertion and aggression was your agenda ahahaha

SCIENCE said:

also yous fellas are fucking hilarious

thank you. my goal in life here is to make everyone happy, happy, happy.

SCIENCE said:

also yous fellas are fucking hilarious

As are yourself.

Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:

also yous fellas are fucking hilarious

thank you. my goal in life here is to make everyone happy, happy, happy.

Now you’ve got me danciing like I’m watching the wiggles. Which by the way, I never did.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

also yous fellas are fucking hilarious

As are yourself.

Now you’ve got me danciing like I’m watching the wiggles. Which by the way, I never did.

well all of yous know with all of yours genderfluid accusations of mental illness

Fruitcake, Funny Funny

Dark Orange said:

diddly-squat said:

esselte said:

Also, when it comes to people who do subscribe to horrible values, like women should be bashed or Jews should be gassed, when we laugh at the absurdity of such notions we are laughing at those people. We are refusing to give them any power over us. They don’t scare us. They don’t impress us. We think they are a joke.

Another example, a few days ago Rev asked a question, something like “Why do men not care about their health, why do they avoid going to doctors when they are sick” etc., I replied partially with “Because we are not all punk ass bitches”.

Do people understand, in making that joke I was not denigrating women with the use of the word “bitches” or suggesting some failure in women, that I was in fact making fun of men who genuinely do hold the position that worrying about ones health is no a “manly” thing to do?

it would be much easier if we just banned satire altogether

How about just toxicity in this forum?
This forum has lost a lot of good people because of it.

I do agree Mr Orange…

Having kicked around this particular group of people for as long as most, it seems to me that for a large proportion of the people here this is the only (or at least the single most important) online community that a lot of people primarily contribute to (at least in a direct a person-to-person real time format) and I think this in a lot of way dictates the manner in which people interact.

That said a lot of the toxicity seems to simply revolve around people’s inability to just ignore the other people that they find obnoxious.

diddly-squat said:

Dark Orange said:

diddly-squat said:

it would be much easier if we just banned satire altogether

How about just toxicity in this forum?
This forum has lost a lot of good people because of it.

I do agree Mr Orange…

Having kicked around this particular group of people for as long as most, it seems to me that for a large proportion of the people here this is the only (or at least the single most important) online community that a lot of people primarily contribute to (at least in a direct a person-to-person real time format) and I think this in a lot of way dictates the manner in which people interact.

That said a lot of the toxicity seems to simply revolve around people’s inability to just ignore the other people that they find obnoxious.

:)

Let’s face it, the toxicity on this forum can be summed up in one word: kii.

She’s the source of essentially all of it, and these days tends to pick the most vulnerable posters for her worst aggression – like elderly Tamb, a completely harmless poster who’s been battling cancer for years with a gruelling regime of chemo, and who comes here for a bit of friendly company and support, only to be spat at by bully-boy kii who uses “old man” as a vicious term of abuse.

Roughie, another fairly isolated old bloke who comes here to chat and gets repeatedly told off for it, again really only by kii.

Kii thinks herself “woke” and thinks that means she can adopt the very worst toxic masculinity in her own behaviour, which is relentlessly aggressive, abusive, bullying and bigoted.

Being “woke”, she can be as sexist, ageist, ableist and personally abusive as she likes, frequently stooping to fat-shaming and jeering at the ill and incapacitated.

And it’s not just men she hates – the other night she told Brindabellas (who was pleading for less conflict) to “toughen up, princess”, exactly what an abusive male would say to a woman asking him to lower the needless aggression.

I successfully ignore her for the most part these days but I just wish everyone else would as well.

Bubblecar said:

Let’s face it, the toxicity on this forum can be summed up in one word: kii.

She’s the source of essentially all of it, and these days tends to pick the most vulnerable posters for her worst aggression – like elderly Tamb, a completely harmless poster who’s been battling cancer for years with a gruelling regime of chemo, and who comes here for a bit of friendly company and support, only to be spat at by bully-boy kii who uses “old man” as a vicious term of abuse.

Roughie, another fairly isolated old bloke who comes here to chat and gets repeatedly told off for it, again really only by kii.

Kii thinks herself “woke” and thinks that means she can adopt the very worst toxic masculinity in her own behaviour, which is relentlessly aggressive, abusive, bullying and bigoted.

Being “woke”, she can be as sexist, ageist, ableist and personally abusive as she likes, frequently stooping to fat-shaming and jeering at the ill and incapacitated.

And it’s not just men she hates – the other night she told Brindabellas (who was pleading for less conflict) to “toughen up, princess”, exactly what an abusive male would say to a woman asking him to lower the needless aggression.

I successfully ignore her for the most part these days but I just wish everyone else would as well.

+1

Bubblecar said:

Let’s face it, the toxicity on this forum can be summed up in one word: kii.

She’s the source of essentially all of it, and these days tends to pick the most vulnerable posters for her worst aggression – like elderly Tamb, a completely harmless poster who’s been battling cancer for years with a gruelling regime of chemo, and who comes here for a bit of friendly company and support, only to be spat at by bully-boy kii who uses “old man” as a vicious term of abuse.

Roughie, another fairly isolated old bloke who comes here to chat and gets repeatedly told off for it, again really only by kii.

Kii thinks herself “woke” and thinks that means she can adopt the very worst toxic masculinity in her own behaviour, which is relentlessly aggressive, abusive, bullying and bigoted.

Being “woke”, she can be as sexist, ageist, ableist and personally abusive as she likes, frequently stooping to fat-shaming and jeering at the ill and incapacitated.

And it’s not just men she hates – the other night she told Brindabellas (who was pleading for less conflict) to “toughen up, princess”, exactly what an abusive male would say to a woman asking him to lower the needless aggression.

I successfully ignore her for the most part these days but I just wish everyone else would as well.

And when are you going to properly aplogise to me for your bullshit diagnosis of my mental health issues?
You have contributed greatly to my feelings of isolation and exclusion.

You complain about your weight and then stuff yourself with food and alcohol.

The old guys really need to rethink their humour, why not tell them their jokes stink?

I shouldn’t have told Brindabellas to toughen up, but my filter is broken sometimes.

I remember the many people here who picked on roughbarked, and I stood up for him.

Anyway, let me know when you want to withdraw your diagnosis of NPD, Bubblecar.

kii said:

I shouldn’t have told Brindabellas to toughen up, but my filter is broken sometimes.

Ah, well, we all have times like that. And we should all remember that we all have times likethat.

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

Let’s face it, the toxicity on this forum can be summed up in one word: kii.

She’s the source of essentially all of it, and these days tends to pick the most vulnerable posters for her worst aggression – like elderly Tamb, a completely harmless poster who’s been battling cancer for years with a gruelling regime of chemo, and who comes here for a bit of friendly company and support, only to be spat at by bully-boy kii who uses “old man” as a vicious term of abuse.

Roughie, another fairly isolated old bloke who comes here to chat and gets repeatedly told off for it, again really only by kii.

Kii thinks herself “woke” and thinks that means she can adopt the very worst toxic masculinity in her own behaviour, which is relentlessly aggressive, abusive, bullying and bigoted.

Being “woke”, she can be as sexist, ageist, ableist and personally abusive as she likes, frequently stooping to fat-shaming and jeering at the ill and incapacitated.

And it’s not just men she hates – the other night she told Brindabellas (who was pleading for less conflict) to “toughen up, princess”, exactly what an abusive male would say to a woman asking him to lower the needless aggression.

I successfully ignore her for the most part these days but I just wish everyone else would as well.

+1

I come here for a distraction from all the shit in my life and apparently there’s a use by date on it. Bubblecar’s continuing attacks on me have resulted in me being fed up with the empty bullshit here.

kii said:

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

Let’s face it, the toxicity on this forum can be summed up in one word: kii.

She’s the source of essentially all of it, and these days tends to pick the most vulnerable posters for her worst aggression – like elderly Tamb, a completely harmless poster who’s been battling cancer for years with a gruelling regime of chemo, and who comes here for a bit of friendly company and support, only to be spat at by bully-boy kii who uses “old man” as a vicious term of abuse.

Roughie, another fairly isolated old bloke who comes here to chat and gets repeatedly told off for it, again really only by kii.

Kii thinks herself “woke” and thinks that means she can adopt the very worst toxic masculinity in her own behaviour, which is relentlessly aggressive, abusive, bullying and bigoted.

Being “woke”, she can be as sexist, ageist, ableist and personally abusive as she likes, frequently stooping to fat-shaming and jeering at the ill and incapacitated.

And it’s not just men she hates – the other night she told Brindabellas (who was pleading for less conflict) to “toughen up, princess”, exactly what an abusive male would say to a woman asking him to lower the needless aggression.

I successfully ignore her for the most part these days but I just wish everyone else would as well.

+1

I come here for a distraction from all the shit in my life and apparently there’s a use by date on it. Bubblecar’s continuing attacks on me have resulted in me being fed up with the empty bullshit here.

Possibly you might like to post some kii-approved jokes to show us the way.
I mean absolutely no unpleasantness, more, a genuine attempt to settle the situation.

dv said:

Nup.

fsm said:

wait until they put him in the ground

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Nup.

maybe he is talking to arthur and misheard him?

kii said:

Bubblecar said:

Let’s face it, the toxicity on this forum can be summed up in one word: kii.

She’s the source of essentially all of it, and these days tends to pick the most vulnerable posters for her worst aggression – like elderly Tamb, a completely harmless poster who’s been battling cancer for years with a gruelling regime of chemo, and who comes here for a bit of friendly company and support, only to be spat at by bully-boy kii who uses “old man” as a vicious term of abuse.

Roughie, another fairly isolated old bloke who comes here to chat and gets repeatedly told off for it, again really only by kii.

Kii thinks herself “woke” and thinks that means she can adopt the very worst toxic masculinity in her own behaviour, which is relentlessly aggressive, abusive, bullying and bigoted.

Being “woke”, she can be as sexist, ageist, ableist and personally abusive as she likes, frequently stooping to fat-shaming and jeering at the ill and incapacitated.

And it’s not just men she hates – the other night she told Brindabellas (who was pleading for less conflict) to “toughen up, princess”, exactly what an abusive male would say to a woman asking him to lower the needless aggression.

I successfully ignore her for the most part these days but I just wish everyone else would as well.

And when are you going to properly aplogise to me for your bullshit diagnosis of my mental health issues?
You have contributed greatly to my feelings of isolation and exclusion.

You complain about your weight and then stuff yourself with food and alcohol.

The old guys really need to rethink their humour, why not tell them their jokes stink?

I shouldn’t have told Brindabellas to toughen up, but my filter is broken sometimes.

I remember the many people here who picked on roughbarked, and I stood up for him.

Anyway, let me know when you want to withdraw your diagnosis of NPD, Bubblecar.

It is the same thing as you assuming you know what I’m thinking and it is really something anyone can make a slip about but forever never being allowed to forget it.

sarahs mum said:

This shows that people didn’t understand what they were voting no for

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

This shows that people didn’t understand what they were voting no for

I know. It was supposed to make things better.

Meanwhile my sister’s bridge group wants to get rid of welcome to country because they voted against that and won.

sarahs mum said:

Replace it with Rage Against The Machine’s famous song and not doing what someone tells you

sarahs mum said:

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

This shows that people didn’t understand what they were voting no for

I know. It was supposed to make things better.

Meanwhile my sister’s bridge group wants to get rid of welcome to country because they voted against that and won.

Seems many people are interpreting it as a green light for unbridled racism.

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

This shows that people didn’t understand what they were voting no for

Regardless is it not just a harmless song for fun

I told the boss lady about Michelle Obama’s joke about Trump applying for a black job, and she said “like Raygun?”
Wow

sarahs mum said:

One of the key issues here is that we (that is, anyone generally old enough to have kids in school) were taught in school that Captain Cook discovered Australia.

ignorance or not, it’s hard to overcome that sort of level of falsehoods

dv said:

I told the boss lady about Michelle Obama’s joke about Trump applying for a black job, and she said “like Raygun?”
Wow

which is kinda funny because the woman’s breakdancing gold went to a Japanese competitor, the silver went to a girl from Lithuania and the bronze was won by a Chinese lady.

diddly-squat said:

sarahs mum said:

One of the key issues here is that we (that is, anyone generally old enough to have kids in school) were taught in school that Captain Cook discovered Australia.

ignorance or not, it’s hard to overcome that sort of level of falsehoods

I remeber being taught that. But also was told about Dampier. As an aside.

Know thyself

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

I told the boss lady about Michelle Obama’s joke about Trump applying for a black job, and she said “like Raygun?”
Wow

which is kinda funny because the woman’s breakdancing gold went to a Japanese competitor, the silver went to a girl from Lithuania and the bronze was won by a Chinese lady.

surely only Greeks and their satellites may win medals at Olympic Games and whatnot

sarahs mum said:

diddly-squat said:

sarahs mum said:

One of the key issues here is that we (that is, anyone generally old enough to have kids in school) were taught in school that Captain Cook discovered Australia.

ignorance or not, it’s hard to overcome that sort of level of falsehoods

I remeber being taught that. But also was told about Dampier. As an aside.

Being a WAlien, we were told that it was Dirk Hartog in 1616. Even though he was only the first for Western Australia, and the first was Willem Janz in 1606 but that was in Cape York somewhere. We also learned about Willem De Vlamingh exploring the Perth are in 1697.

There wasn’t much time for Captain Cook and NSW after that.

Disclaimer: Most of this was during 1979; the 150 year celebration of the founding of the Swan River Colony in 1829.

I was just thinking the other day that the 200 year will be along soon, and that we’ll have to do something special for it.

sarahs mum said:

diddly-squat said:

sarahs mum said:

One of the key issues here is that we (that is, anyone generally old enough to have kids in school) were taught in school that Captain Cook discovered Australia.

ignorance or not, it’s hard to overcome that sort of level of falsehoods

I remeber being taught that. But also was told about Dampier. As an aside.

I may still have an assignment from high school (early 1970s) on “The Black Australians”. I should fish it out and see how it stands up.

party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

diddly-squat said:

One of the key issues here is that we (that is, anyone generally old enough to have kids in school) were taught in school that Captain Cook discovered Australia.

ignorance or not, it’s hard to overcome that sort of level of falsehoods

I remeber being taught that. But also was told about Dampier. As an aside.

Being a WAlien, we were told that it was Dirk Hartog in 1616. Even though he was only the first for Western Australia, and the first was Willem Janz in 1606 but that was in Cape York somewhere. We also learned about Willem De Vlamingh exploring the Perth are in 1697.

There wasn’t much time for Captain Cook and NSW after that.

Disclaimer: Most of this was during 1979; the 150 year celebration of the founding of the Swan River Colony in 1829.

I was just thinking the other day that the 200 year will be along soon, and that we’ll have to do something special for it.

I remember being taught about Captain Cook (actually, Lieutenant Cook RN, but that’s another story).

And about Dirk Hartog, and Abel Tasman. And others.

Young as we were, we weren’t completely without nous, and it didn’t take us long to recognise that there was a whole lot of European ‘discoverers’.

And, as a lot of those stories included mention of Aboriginal people, it was plainly obvious even to primary school children that they had previously ‘discovered’ Australia.

So, the brainwashing may not have been as effective as some might think.

party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

diddly-squat said:

One of the key issues here is that we (that is, anyone generally old enough to have kids in school) were taught in school that Captain Cook discovered Australia.

ignorance or not, it’s hard to overcome that sort of level of falsehoods

I remeber being taught that. But also was told about Dampier. As an aside.

Being a WAlien, we were told that it was Dirk Hartog in 1616. Even though he was only the first for Western Australia, and the first was Willem Janz in 1606 but that was in Cape York somewhere. We also learned about Willem De Vlamingh exploring the Perth are in 1697.

There wasn’t much time for Captain Cook and NSW after that.

Disclaimer: Most of this was during 1979; the 150 year celebration of the founding of the Swan River Colony in 1829.

I was just thinking the other day that the 200 year will be along soon, and that we’ll have to do something special for it.

Yeah we were taught about Torres and Jansz.
As indeed we should have given they were NQ adjacent.

OCDC said:

Ah, the old ‘Flying High’ schtick.

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

I remeber being taught that. But also was told about Dampier. As an aside.

Being a WAlien, we were told that it was Dirk Hartog in 1616. Even though he was only the first for Western Australia, and the first was Willem Janz in 1606 but that was in Cape York somewhere. We also learned about Willem De Vlamingh exploring the Perth are in 1697.

There wasn’t much time for Captain Cook and NSW after that.

Disclaimer: Most of this was during 1979; the 150 year celebration of the founding of the Swan River Colony in 1829.

I was just thinking the other day that the 200 year will be along soon, and that we’ll have to do something special for it.

I remember being taught about Captain Cook (actually, Lieutenant Cook RN, but that’s another story).

And about Dirk Hartog, and Abel Tasman. And others.

Young as we were, we weren’t completely without nous, and it didn’t take us long to recognise that there was a whole lot of European ‘discoverers’.

And, as a lot of those stories included mention of Aboriginal people, it was plainly obvious even to primary school children that they had previously ‘discovered’ Australia.

So, the brainwashing may not have been as effective as some might think.

We were never told that the land was devoid of human inhabitants when the first Europeans arrived. It was understood the word explorer or discoverer was just from the European point of view, not from the perspective of the whole of humanity – like going to the moon.

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

Being a WAlien, we were told that it was Dirk Hartog in 1616. Even though he was only the first for Western Australia, and the first was Willem Janz in 1606 but that was in Cape York somewhere. We also learned about Willem De Vlamingh exploring the Perth are in 1697.

There wasn’t much time for Captain Cook and NSW after that.

Disclaimer: Most of this was during 1979; the 150 year celebration of the founding of the Swan River Colony in 1829.

I was just thinking the other day that the 200 year will be along soon, and that we’ll have to do something special for it.

I remember being taught about Captain Cook (actually, Lieutenant Cook RN, but that’s another story).

And about Dirk Hartog, and Abel Tasman. And others.

Young as we were, we weren’t completely without nous, and it didn’t take us long to recognise that there was a whole lot of European ‘discoverers’.

And, as a lot of those stories included mention of Aboriginal people, it was plainly obvious even to primary school children that they had previously ‘discovered’ Australia.

So, the brainwashing may not have been as effective as some might think.

We were never told that the land was devoid of human inhabitants when the first Europeans arrived. It was understood the word explorer or discoverer was just from the European point of view, not from the perspective of the whole of humanity – like going to the moon.

i was taught about piccaninnies and lubras.

sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

I remember being taught about Captain Cook (actually, Lieutenant Cook RN, but that’s another story).

And about Dirk Hartog, and Abel Tasman. And others.

Young as we were, we weren’t completely without nous, and it didn’t take us long to recognise that there was a whole lot of European ‘discoverers’.

And, as a lot of those stories included mention of Aboriginal people, it was plainly obvious even to primary school children that they had previously ‘discovered’ Australia.

So, the brainwashing may not have been as effective as some might think.

We were never told that the land was devoid of human inhabitants when the first Europeans arrived. It was understood the word explorer or discoverer was just from the European point of view, not from the perspective of the whole of humanity – like going to the moon.

i was taught about piccaninnies and lubras.

We were taught about Yagan and the Battle of Pinjarra.

party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

diddly-squat said:

One of the key issues here is that we (that is, anyone generally old enough to have kids in school) were taught in school that Captain Cook discovered Australia.

ignorance or not, it’s hard to overcome that sort of level of falsehoods

I remeber being taught that. But also was told about Dampier. As an aside.

Being a WAlien, we were told that it was Dirk Hartog in 1616. Even though he was only the first for Western Australia, and the first was Willem Janz in 1606 but that was in Cape York somewhere. We also learned about Willem De Vlamingh exploring the Perth are in 1697.

There wasn’t much time for Captain Cook and NSW after that.

Disclaimer: Most of this was during 1979; the 150 year celebration of the founding of the Swan River Colony in 1829.

I was just thinking the other day that the 200 year will be along soon, and that we’ll have to do something special for it.

Willem Janszoon’s 1606 voyage into the Gulf of Carpentaria doesn’t get mentioned much.

dv said:

… water and sunlight-occlusive particulates are car exhaust …

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Bubblecar said:

Let’s face it, the toxicity on this forum can be summed up in one word: kii.

She’s the source of essentially all of it, and these days tends to pick the most vulnerable posters for her worst aggression – like elderly Tamb, a completely harmless poster who’s been battling cancer for years with a gruelling regime of chemo, and who comes here for a bit of friendly company and support, only to be spat at by bully-boy kii who uses “old man” as a vicious term of abuse.

Roughie, another fairly isolated old bloke who comes here to chat and gets repeatedly told off for it, again really only by kii.

Kii thinks herself “woke” and thinks that means she can adopt the very worst toxic masculinity in her own behaviour, which is relentlessly aggressive, abusive, bullying and bigoted.

Being “woke”, she can be as sexist, ageist, ableist and personally abusive as she likes, frequently stooping to fat-shaming and jeering at the ill and incapacitated.

And it’s not just men she hates – the other night she told Brindabellas (who was pleading for less conflict) to “toughen up, princess”, exactly what an abusive male would say to a woman asking him to lower the needless aggression.

I successfully ignore her for the most part these days but I just wish everyone else would as well.

And when are you going to properly aplogise to me for your bullshit diagnosis of my mental health issues?
You have contributed greatly to my feelings of isolation and exclusion.

You complain about your weight and then stuff yourself with food and alcohol.

The old guys really need to rethink their humour, why not tell them their jokes stink?

I shouldn’t have told Brindabellas to toughen up, but my filter is broken sometimes.

I remember the many people here who picked on roughbarked, and I stood up for him.

Anyway, let me know when you want to withdraw your diagnosis of NPD, Bubblecar.

It is the same thing as you assuming you know what I’m thinking and it is really something anyone can make a slip about but forever never being allowed to forget it.

fools come down and play in this pit

Tamb said:

kii said:

Tamb said:

+1

I come here for a distraction from all the shit in my life and apparently there’s a use by date on it. Bubblecar’s continuing attacks on me have resulted in me being fed up with the empty bullshit here.

Possibly you might like to post some kii-approved jokes to show us the way.
I mean absolutely no unpleasantness, more, a genuine attempt to settle the situation.

we 100% mean absolute unpleasantness

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

kii said:

I come here for a distraction from all the shit in my life and apparently there’s a use by date on it. Bubblecar’s continuing attacks on me have resulted in me being fed up with the empty bullshit here.

Possibly you might like to post some kii-approved jokes to show us the way.
I mean absolutely no unpleasantness, more, a genuine attempt to settle the situation.

we 100% mean absolute unpleasantness

Go ahead, fight! :)

Me, I’d rather not, but it seems every now and then I get hauled back into kii’s war on everyone.

But I’ve had my say and I’ll leave the rest of you to it.

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

And when are you going to properly aplogise to me for your bullshit diagnosis of my mental health issues?
You have contributed greatly to my feelings of isolation and exclusion.

You complain about your weight and then stuff yourself with food and alcohol.

The old guys really need to rethink their humour, why not tell them their jokes stink?

I shouldn’t have told Brindabellas to toughen up, but my filter is broken sometimes.

I remember the many people here who picked on roughbarked, and I stood up for him.

Anyway, let me know when you want to withdraw your diagnosis of NPD, Bubblecar.

It is the same thing as you assuming you know what I’m thinking and it is really something anyone can make a slip about but forever never being allowed to forget it.

fools come down and play in this pit

welcome aboard this ship of fools, SCIENCE.

;-)

Bubblecar said:

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

Possibly you might like to post some kii-approved jokes to show us the way.
I mean absolutely no unpleasantness, more, a genuine attempt to settle the situation.

we 100% mean absolute unpleasantness

Go ahead, fight! :)

Me, I’d rather not, but it seems every now and then I get hauled back into kii’s war on everyone.

But I’ve had my say and I’ll leave the rest of you to it.

I’m only a drop-in here, read semi-frequently, post occasionally, so I’m not really tuned in to everyone’s lives like most of you are. That also means I have less to lose from speaking my mind than others might. I don’t have friends here to lose, I don’t really have any investment in the forum, and sometimes it needs a person in that situation to say something others are reluctant to say.

However, I’ve read enough to know that kii is a person in pain. Grieving lost loves. Somewhat overwhelmed by her circumstances. Struggling..

I would hope we can all have empathy for that.

But it’s also undeniable that she engages in a lot of (what the kids these days call) crybullying. Textbook case….

And that’s not really acceptable. Bullying is not acceptable behaviour, ever.

Kii, I think you would be one of the forums most vocal proponents against bullying. When you drop these snide remarks at the people on your shit-list, that’s what you’re doing. You are being a bully.

And then if anyone calls you on it, you move to the crying.

I can’t speak to what validation you get from such behaviour, but I can say that I doubt it is healthy for you. You should consider trying to be better than that. For your own sake if nothing else.

these memes are really struggling

Arts said:

these memes are really struggling

It’s metahumour

Arts said:

these memes are really struggling

Arts said:

these memes are really struggling

have your lawyer talk to my lawyer…

Arts said:

these memes are really struggling

at least the thread title is excellent.

sarahs mum said:

This, initially, suggests the risible notion that a banjo can be in tune.

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

This, initially, suggests the risible notion that a banjo can be in tune.

it’s supposed to be an open G.

fsm said:

Nicely done.

fsm said:

Oh my goodness that’s an old one…

buffy said:

fsm said:

Oh my goodness that’s an old one…

So old I had totally forgotten it.

Probably quite a lot of that around.

The Orcas finally got him.

Musk is next!

Boris said:

dv said:

Arts said:

these memes are really struggling

It’s metahumour

at least the thread title is excellent.

it’s evergreen

esselte said:

Bubblecar said:

SCIENCE said:

we 100% mean absolute unpleasantness

Go ahead, fight! :)

Me, I’d rather not, but it seems every now and then I get hauled back into kii’s war on everyone.

But I’ve had my say and I’ll leave the rest of you to it.

I’m only a drop-in here, read semi-frequently, post occasionally, so I’m not really tuned in to everyone’s lives like most of you are. That also means I have less to lose from speaking my mind than others might. I don’t have friends here to lose, I don’t really have any investment in the forum, and sometimes it needs a person in that situation to say something others are reluctant to say.

However, I’ve read enough to know that kii is a person in pain. Grieving lost loves. Somewhat overwhelmed by her circumstances. Struggling..

I would hope we can all have empathy for that.

But it’s also undeniable that she engages in a lot of (what the kids these days call) crybullying. Textbook case….

And that’s not really acceptable. Bullying is not acceptable behaviour, ever.

Kii, I think you would be one of the forums most vocal proponents against bullying. When you drop these snide remarks at the people on your shit-list, that’s what you’re doing. You are being a bully.

And then if anyone calls you on it, you move to the crying.

I can’t speak to what validation you get from such behaviour, but I can say that I doubt it is healthy for you. You should consider trying to be better than that. For your own sake if nothing else.

ovrad yas ot yaw gnol

SCIENCE said:

esselte said:

Bubblecar said:

Go ahead, fight! :)

Me, I’d rather not, but it seems every now and then I get hauled back into kii’s war on everyone.

But I’ve had my say and I’ll leave the rest of you to it.

I’m only a drop-in here, read semi-frequently, post occasionally, so I’m not really tuned in to everyone’s lives like most of you are. That also means I have less to lose from speaking my mind than others might. I don’t have friends here to lose, I don’t really have any investment in the forum, and sometimes it needs a person in that situation to say something others are reluctant to say.

However, I’ve read enough to know that kii is a person in pain. Grieving lost loves. Somewhat overwhelmed by her circumstances. Struggling..

I would hope we can all have empathy for that.

But it’s also undeniable that she engages in a lot of (what the kids these days call) crybullying. Textbook case….

And that’s not really acceptable. Bullying is not acceptable behaviour, ever.

Kii, I think you would be one of the forums most vocal proponents against bullying. When you drop these snide remarks at the people on your shit-list, that’s what you’re doing. You are being a bully.

And then if anyone calls you on it, you move to the crying.

I can’t speak to what validation you get from such behaviour, but I can say that I doubt it is healthy for you. You should consider trying to be better than that. For your own sake if nothing else.

ovrad yas ot yaw gnol

is that another one of those Caesar word salad code thingies?

Tommy Robinson Exposed

A 27-year-old Doncaster man, who involved himself in four separate parts of the recent disorder outside the Rotherham hotel housing asylum seekers, ‘endeavoured to camouflage his identity’ and prevent justice from being done, a Sheffield judge has said.

Doncaster chicken catcher is jailed for two years and eight months for violent disorder at a hotel housing asylum seekers

Boris said:

SCIENCE said:

esselte said:

I’m only a drop-in here, read semi-frequently, post occasionally, so I’m not really tuned in to everyone’s lives like most of you are. That also means I have less to lose from speaking my mind than others might. I don’t have friends here to lose, I don’t really have any investment in the forum, and sometimes it needs a person in that situation to say something others are reluctant to say.

However, I’ve read enough to know that kii is a person in pain. Grieving lost loves. Somewhat overwhelmed by her circumstances. Struggling..

I would hope we can all have empathy for that.

But it’s also undeniable that she engages in a lot of (what the kids these days call) crybullying. Textbook case….

And that’s not really acceptable. Bullying is not acceptable behaviour, ever.

Kii, I think you would be one of the forums most vocal proponents against bullying. When you drop these snide remarks at the people on your shit-list, that’s what you’re doing. You are being a bully.

And then if anyone calls you on it, you move to the crying.

I can’t speak to what validation you get from such behaviour, but I can say that I doubt it is healthy for you. You should consider trying to be better than that. For your own sake if nothing else.

ovrad yas ot yaw gnol

is that another one of those Caesar word salad code thingies?

It reads backwards (from right to left) but makes no sense.

Boris said:

Tommy Robinson Exposed

A 27-year-old Doncaster man, who involved himself in four separate parts of the recent disorder outside the Rotherham hotel housing asylum seekers, ‘endeavoured to camouflage his identity’ and prevent justice from being done, a Sheffield judge has said.

Doncaster chicken catcher is jailed for two years and eight months for violent disorder at a hotel housing asylum seekers

I first misreadthat as ‘…who exposed himself…’.

Boris said:

SCIENCE said:

esselte said:

I’m only a drop-in here, read semi-frequently, post occasionally, so I’m not really tuned in to everyone’s lives like most of you are. That also means I have less to lose from speaking my mind than others might. I don’t have friends here to lose, I don’t really have any investment in the forum, and sometimes it needs a person in that situation to say something others are reluctant to say.

However, I’ve read enough to know that kii is a person in pain. Grieving lost loves. Somewhat overwhelmed by her circumstances. Struggling..

I would hope we can all have empathy for that.

But it’s also undeniable that she engages in a lot of (what the kids these days call) crybullying. Textbook case….

And that’s not really acceptable. Bullying is not acceptable behaviour, ever.

Kii, I think you would be one of the forums most vocal proponents against bullying. When you drop these snide remarks at the people on your shit-list, that’s what you’re doing. You are being a bully.

And then if anyone calls you on it, you move to the crying.

I can’t speak to what validation you get from such behaviour, but I can say that I doubt it is healthy for you. You should consider trying to be better than that. For your own sake if nothing else.

ovrad yas ot yaw gnol

is that another one of those Caesar word salad code thingies?

Reverse it.

buffy said:

Boris said:

SCIENCE said:

ovrad yas ot yaw gnol

is that another one of those Caesar word salad code thingies?

It reads backwards (from right to left) but makes no sense.

Definitively makes no sense.

captain_spalding said:

Boris said:

Tommy Robinson Exposed

A 27-year-old Doncaster man, who involved himself in four separate parts of the recent disorder outside the Rotherham hotel housing asylum seekers, ‘endeavoured to camouflage his identity’ and prevent justice from being done, a Sheffield judge has said.

Doncaster chicken catcher is jailed for two years and eight months for violent disorder at a hotel housing asylum seekers

I first misreadthat as ‘…who exposed himself…’.

So did I.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Boris said:

is that another one of those Caesar word salad code thingies?

It reads backwards (from right to left) but makes no sense.

Definitively makes no sense.

sorry we were too cognitively impaired to code out a longer sensibler one but here now we have access to more supporting systems

…OVRAD yas ot ylpmis sdrow fo tol a s’tahT

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

It reads backwards (from right to left) but makes no sense.

Definitively makes no sense.

sorry we were too cognitively impaired to code out a longer sensibler one but here now we have access to more supporting systems

…OVRAD yas ot ylpmis sdrow fo tol a s’tahT

Clear as mud.

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

It reads backwards (from right to left) but makes no sense.

Definitively makes no sense.

sorry we were too cognitively impaired to code out a longer sensibler one but here now we have access to more supporting systems

…OVRAD yas ot ylpmis sdrow fo tol a s’tahT

Thank you SCIENCE.
I recently learnt about DARVO as I go about healing some stuff in my own life.

ruby said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Definitively makes no sense.

sorry we were too cognitively impaired to code out a longer sensibler one but here now we have access to more supporting systems

…OVRAD yas ot ylpmis sdrow fo tol a s’tahT

Thank you SCIENCE.
I recently learnt about DARVO as I go about healing some stuff in my own life.

Otherwise known as mirroring.

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

SCIENCE said:

sorry we were too cognitively impaired to code out a longer sensibler one but here now we have access to more supporting systems

…OVRAD yas ot ylpmis sdrow fo tol a s’tahT

Thank you SCIENCE.
I recently learnt about DARVO as I go about healing some stuff in my own life.

Otherwise known as mirroring.

No.
Go look it up.

ruby said:

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

Thank you SCIENCE.
I recently learnt about DARVO as I go about healing some stuff in my own life.

Otherwise known as mirroring.

No.
Go look it up.

OK. Yeah.

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

roughbarked said:

Otherwise known as mirroring.

No.
Go look it up.

OK. Yeah.

Oh good. So we can now have some constructive conversations around manipulation strategies and abuse can we.
laughs ironically

ruby said:

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

No.
Go look it up.

OK. Yeah.

Oh good. So we can now have some constructive conversations around manipulation strategies and abuse can we.
laughs ironically

TATE says:

“DARVO (an acronym for “deny, attack, and reverse victim & offender”) is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. Some researchers indicate that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.”

The Rev Dodgson said:

ruby said:

roughbarked said:

OK. Yeah.

Oh good. So we can now have some constructive conversations around manipulation strategies and abuse can we.
laughs ironically

TATE says:

“DARVO (an acronym for “deny, attack, and reverse victim & offender”) is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. Some researchers indicate that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.”

There are some very good articles on DARVO, mostly centred on the behaviour of two individuals interacting with each other.
Watching things play out when 3 women said they didn’t like a meme was interesting. There was some collective DARVO at work to silence and keep the status quo. (hmmm. Status. hmmm)

ruby said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

ruby said:

Oh good. So we can now have some constructive conversations around manipulation strategies and abuse can we.
laughs ironically

TATE says:

“DARVO (an acronym for “deny, attack, and reverse victim & offender”) is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. Some researchers indicate that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.”

There are some very good articles on DARVO, mostly centred on the behaviour of two individuals interacting with each other.
Watching things play out when 3 women said they didn’t like a meme was interesting. There was some collective DARVO at work to silence and keep the status quo. (hmmm. Status. hmmm)

I’m quite concerned for her wellbeing.

ruby said:

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

No.
Go look it up.

OK. Yeah.

Oh good. So we can now have some constructive conversations around manipulation strategies and abuse can we.
laughs ironically

Not looking forward to any of that latter but the first is OK.

Tamb said:

ruby said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

TATE says:

“DARVO (an acronym for “deny, attack, and reverse victim & offender”) is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. Some researchers indicate that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.”

There are some very good articles on DARVO, mostly centred on the behaviour of two individuals interacting with each other.
Watching things play out when 3 women said they didn’t like a meme was interesting. There was some collective DARVO at work to silence and keep the status quo. (hmmm. Status. hmmm)

I’m quite concerned for her wellbeing.

Yeah. She’s crying out for help and the whole thing of packing up and getting out of there is taking too long.

Tamb said:

ruby said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

TATE says:

“DARVO (an acronym for “deny, attack, and reverse victim & offender”) is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. Some researchers indicate that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.”

There are some very good articles on DARVO, mostly centred on the behaviour of two individuals interacting with each other.
Watching things play out when 3 women said they didn’t like a meme was interesting. There was some collective DARVO at work to silence and keep the status quo. (hmmm. Status. hmmm)

I’m quite concerned for her wellbeing.

i am, too.’

She needs support, but she seems to be in a place where very little of it is available to her.

If kii could only expedite her departure from the US, it might help her somewhat, but it seems to be a protracted and complicated process.

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

ruby said:

There are some very good articles on DARVO, mostly centred on the behaviour of two individuals interacting with each other.
Watching things play out when 3 women said they didn’t like a meme was interesting. There was some collective DARVO at work to silence and keep the status quo. (hmmm. Status. hmmm)

I’m quite concerned for her wellbeing.

i am, too.’

She needs support, but she seems to be in a place where very little of it is available to her.

If kii could only expedite her departure from the US, it might help her somewhat, but it seems to be a protracted and complicated process.

Mrs rb would just put it all in the skip and say goodbye to it.

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

ruby said:

There are some very good articles on DARVO, mostly centred on the behaviour of two individuals interacting with each other.
Watching things play out when 3 women said they didn’t like a meme was interesting. There was some collective DARVO at work to silence and keep the status quo. (hmmm. Status. hmmm)

I’m quite concerned for her wellbeing.

i am, too.’

She needs support, but she seems to be in a place where very little of it is available to her.

If kii could only expedite her departure from the US, it might help her somewhat, but it seems to be a protracted and complicated process.

we mean there are plenty of cases where people find it difficult to leave abusive situations indeed they often intentionally return to them

This isn’t humorous but I did like the use of the ‘s on a long noun phrase.

Travel Scotland Goals Group, OFFICIAL. ·

The most remote Scottish island is Rockall. It was discovered by
St Magnus the Obtuse in 897 AD.

It is recorded that, in 882, St Magnus left what he saw as “the sinful Isle of Mull”
to escape the temptations of Tobermory and find solitude on the isle of Soay.
There he built a huge personal monastery of peat and lived in a cell 5 foot by
five foot. His chronicles record that, after eating some cheese he found on the
beach, he awoke from a dream in which a goat had told him to sail west and
preach to seabirds. He built a boat of seaweed, grass, and rocks and set off.
It was thus that Rockall was first settled.

For centuries, sailors passed by Rockall never thinking that it could ever have
been inhabited and assumed that St Magnus had perished on the journey into
the Atlantic. Their error lay in always passing Rockall on the eastern side.
This side of the island presents a stern and austere face of solid magma occupied
only by the descendants of the seabirds to which Magnus spread the Word.

In 1588, the Spanish Armada was defeated and a few galleons tried to escape
around Cape Wrath. All but one was wrecked. The surviving vessel, the “Santa Andreas”
was later captured off Oban. In a document from the time, the Captain spoke of
“the paradise island of Rockall.” The locals thought he was mad and hanged him.

It was not until 1955 that the Royal Navy, under the pretext of setting up a station
for monitoring Russian submarines, claimed Rockall for the Crown and promptly
gave it to Scotland.

It has now been revealed that the western side of Rockall benefits from the Gulf Stream
and is a subtropical paradise of golden beaches and lush vegetation. Although previously
a destination for luxury hotels and high-end shopping for only the big names at Holyrood,
this year, the island has been opened up to all and can expect an influx of new visitors
as there are now flights from all Scotland’s major airports and Prestwick.

Boris said:

Travel Scotland Goals Group, OFFICIAL. ·

The most remote Scottish island is Rockall. It was discovered by
St Magnus the Obtuse in 897 AD.

It is recorded that, in 882, St Magnus left what he saw as “the sinful Isle of Mull”
to escape the temptations of Tobermory and find solitude on the isle of Soay.
There he built a huge personal monastery of peat and lived in a cell 5 foot by
five foot. His chronicles record that, after eating some cheese he found on the
beach, he awoke from a dream in which a goat had told him to sail west and
preach to seabirds. He built a boat of seaweed, grass, and rocks and set off.
It was thus that Rockall was first settled.

For centuries, sailors passed by Rockall never thinking that it could ever have
been inhabited and assumed that St Magnus had perished on the journey into
the Atlantic. Their error lay in always passing Rockall on the eastern side.
This side of the island presents a stern and austere face of solid magma occupied
only by the descendants of the seabirds to which Magnus spread the Word.

In 1588, the Spanish Armada was defeated and a few galleons tried to escape
around Cape Wrath. All but one was wrecked. The surviving vessel, the “Santa Andreas”
was later captured off Oban. In a document from the time, the Captain spoke of
“the paradise island of Rockall.” The locals thought he was mad and hanged him.

It was not until 1955 that the Royal Navy, under the pretext of setting up a station
for monitoring Russian submarines, claimed Rockall for the Crown and promptly
gave it to Scotland.

It has now been revealed that the western side of Rockall benefits from the Gulf Stream
and is a subtropical paradise of golden beaches and lush vegetation. Although previously
a destination for luxury hotels and high-end shopping for only the big names at Holyrood,
this year, the island has been opened up to all and can expect an influx of new visitors
as there are now flights from all Scotland’s major airports and Prestwick.

Hahahahahahaha.