…I’ll put this link in a thread, because Arty really is skilled at introducing people to what’s really going on in the gender-critical vs trans ideology wars.

He’s very well researched, very articulate, very fair and above all, very patient (which I’m not :)).

I do wish those here who uncritically fall in line with the captured-left view on this topic would read this piece and explore some of the links.

The War to Annihilate Sex

This is an article designed to lay out the state of the “gender debate” to those looking for a broad overview and an introductory grounding in the subject.

It’s divided into six short parts. The first part is an introduction to the sides in the conflict. The second part explores one side’s viewpoint in depth — this is the side that I take. The third part explores the opposing side’s view. The fourth part explores the rationales and the stakes which motivate each side. The fifth part looks at the impact of this war on children and adolescents, and their families. The final part looks to the future and the direction that the war is headed….

Where do she males fit in?

The term shemale is most commonly encountered in the porn industry and is considered an offensive term by some.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shemale

Bubblecar said:

The term shemale is most commonly encountered in the porn industry and is considered an offensive term by some.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shemale

A made up sexuality?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Bubblecar said:

The term shemale is most commonly encountered in the porn industry and is considered an offensive term by some.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shemale

A made up sexuality?

There’s nothing necessarily wrong with men who want to have “female breasts” for erotic reasons, but they are men with a particular fetish, and we shouldn’t have to identify them as “women”.

Welcome to the Oppression Olympics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NtLWj5TDvI

sarahs mum said:

Welcome to the Oppression Olympics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NtLWj5TDvI

Um, no.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Welcome to the Oppression Olympics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NtLWj5TDvI

Um, no.

The most laughably ludicrous statement, right at the beginning: “Even though there’s no scientific evidence that trans athletes have an advantage over cis (sic) ones….”

Is literally saying: “Even though there’s no scientific evidence that male athletes have an advantage over female athletes…”

Fortunately the world’s sporting bodies are waking up to the nonsense and more and more of them are banning males from competing against females, which is the whole point of sex-segregated sport in the first place – to give sportswomen a level playing field and encourage more women to get involved.

If men who socially identify as women don’t want to compete against other men, no-one is stopping them from starting up their own “transwomen only” games.

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Welcome to the Oppression Olympics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NtLWj5TDvI

Um, no.

The most laughably ludicrous statement, right at the beginning: “Even though there’s no scientific evidence that trans athletes have an advantage over cis (sic) ones….”

Is literally saying: “Even though there’s no scientific evidence that male athletes have an advantage over female athletes…”

Fortunately the world’s sporting bodies are waking up to the nonsense and more and more of them are banning males from competing against females, which is the whole point of sex-segregated sport in the first place – to give sportswomen a level playing field and encourage more women to get involved.

If men who socially identify as women don’t want to compete against other men, no-one is stopping them from starting up their own “transwomen only” games.

The side will be led by wheelchair rugby royalty Ryley Batt and Chris Bond and will feature a record breaking three women, in Shae Graham, Emilie Miller and Ella Sabljak. Graham made her Paralympic debut in 2021 as the first female wheelchair rugby player to represent Australia at a Games.

Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Um, no.

The most laughably ludicrous statement, right at the beginning: “Even though there’s no scientific evidence that trans athletes have an advantage over cis (sic) ones….”

Is literally saying: “Even though there’s no scientific evidence that male athletes have an advantage over female athletes…”

Fortunately the world’s sporting bodies are waking up to the nonsense and more and more of them are banning males from competing against females, which is the whole point of sex-segregated sport in the first place – to give sportswomen a level playing field and encourage more women to get involved.

If men who socially identify as women don’t want to compete against other men, no-one is stopping them from starting up their own “transwomen only” games.

The side will be led by wheelchair rugby royalty Ryley Batt and Chris Bond and will feature a record breaking three women, in Shae Graham, Emilie Miller and Ella Sabljak. Graham made her Paralympic debut in 2021 as the first female wheelchair rugby player to represent Australia at a Games.

Good on them but they’re in the wrong thread :)

“If men who socially identify as women don’t want to compete against other men, no-one is stopping them from starting up their own “transwomen only” games.”

…actually they’d still be competing against other men, so I’ll rephrase that:

If males who identify as women don’t want to compete against males who identify as men, no-one is stopping them from starting up their own “transwomen only” games.

I never took part in the gender wars

I was a navigator on a spice freighter

Cymek said:

I never took part in the gender wars

I was a navigator on a spice freighter

I was a crystal miner.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

I never took part in the gender wars

I was a navigator on a spice freighter

I was a crystal miner.

I was a pacifist.

Arty Morty?
From the movie, “Without a Clue”.

https://youtu.be/SsFEmLN-r3M?si=B_VKazx9tn_2QuKP&t=45

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

I never took part in the gender wars

I was a navigator on a spice freighter

I was a crystal miner.

I was a pacifist.

That, I’ve always been.