Right. That’s it then.
Had enough of winter.
Let’s see what Spring can bring.
Right. That’s it then.
Had enough of winter.
Let’s see what Spring can bring.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 9 degrees at the back door, overcast and windy. We are forecast 15 degrees with showers increasing and windy.
It will be an inside day, I reckon.
Sunday 1 September
Summary Min 6 Max 22 Sunny. Chance of any rain: 5%
Sunny. Winds northwesterly and light increasing to 25 to 40 km/h in the morning then decreasing to 15 to 20 km/h in the evening.
Currently five degrees. The birds are going off their heads.
25/50. Five guesses, all wrong. My 5 correct answers were ones I actually did know, although I had to drag a couple of them out from the boxes in the brain attic.
buffy said:
ABC Sunday quiz25/50. Five guesses, all wrong. My 5 correct answers were ones I actually did know, although I had to drag a couple of them out from the boxes in the brain attic.
25/50 also
I only knew 3, and I got one of those wrong :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
ABC Sunday quiz25/50. Five guesses, all wrong. My 5 correct answers were ones I actually did know, although I had to drag a couple of them out from the boxes in the brain attic.
25/50 also
I only knew 3, and I got one of those wrong :)
Hmmm, the Bingbot says I got the % DNA one right, but it was marked wrong.
buffy said:
ABC Sunday quiz25/50. Five guesses, all wrong. My 5 correct answers were ones I actually did know, although I had to drag a couple of them out from the boxes in the brain attic.
I had a couple of lucky guesses 40/50.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
ABC Sunday quiz25/50. Five guesses, all wrong. My 5 correct answers were ones I actually did know, although I had to drag a couple of them out from the boxes in the brain attic.
25/50 also
I only knew 3, and I got one of those wrong :)
Some of the questions were stupid. Luckily I managed to guess stupid on at least three.
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
ABC Sunday quiz25/50. Five guesses, all wrong. My 5 correct answers were ones I actually did know, although I had to drag a couple of them out from the boxes in the brain attic.
25/50 also
I only knew 3, and I got one of those wrong :)
Hmmm, the Bingbot says I got the % DNA one right, but it was marked wrong.
I got that one wrong.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:25/50 also
I only knew 3, and I got one of those wrong :)
Hmmm, the Bingbot says I got the % DNA one right, but it was marked wrong.
I got that one wrong.
Maybe you got it right as well then.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Hmmm, the Bingbot says I got the % DNA one right, but it was marked wrong.
I got that one wrong.
Maybe you got it right as well then.
Could be but I’d have to look it up to find out.
Morning minions and Happy Father’s Day.
Another day of deranged weather expected here but I won’t let it get me down.
>Cloudy. Very high chance of rain, most likely this evening. Damaging winds possible during the morning and afternoon. Winds northwesterly 30 to 45 km/h.
It’s not actually raining here at the moment, although the wind is a bit rough. I’m going out to the local cemetery to check the orchid situation. Pretty sure it’s still a couple of weeks too early, but I’ll check.
Morning pilgrims, another spiffing day in ol’ Brisbane town for the first day of spring.
Over.
Bubblecar said:
Morning minions and Happy Father’s Day.Another day of deranged weather expected here but I won’t let it get me down.
>Cloudy. Very high chance of rain, most likely this evening. Damaging winds possible during the morning and afternoon. Winds northwesterly 30 to 45 km/h.
Luckily I am not a minion.

I’m unlikely to have a Happy Fathers Day, given that both my children have pre-deceased me, with the latter one less than a year ago.
It’s 15.5° C, 95% RH and overcast with a light air. The overcast is a risen fog, so it will likely burn off in a couple of hours. BoM forecasts 28° C and partly cloudy, so maybe the overcast is not a risen fog. The satellite images show opaque, stationary cloud that is reducing in size. So I am now officially confused.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Morning minions and Happy Father’s Day.Another day of deranged weather expected here but I won’t let it get me down.
>Cloudy. Very high chance of rain, most likely this evening. Damaging winds possible during the morning and afternoon. Winds northwesterly 30 to 45 km/h.
Luckily I am not a minion.
I’m unlikely to have a Happy Fathers Day, given that both my children have pre-deceased me, with the latter one less than a year ago.
It’s 15.5° C, 95% RH and overcast with a light air. The overcast is a risen fog, so it will likely burn off in a couple of hours. BoM forecasts 28° C and partly cloudy, so maybe the overcast is not a risen fog. The satellite images show opaque, stationary cloud that is reducing in size. So I am now officially confused.
You’re still a father, MV, and, if they were here and not you, they’d be saying, ‘thanks, Dad’.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Morning minions and Happy Father’s Day.Another day of deranged weather expected here but I won’t let it get me down.
>Cloudy. Very high chance of rain, most likely this evening. Damaging winds possible during the morning and afternoon. Winds northwesterly 30 to 45 km/h.
Luckily I am not a minion.
I’m unlikely to have a Happy Fathers Day, given that both my children have pre-deceased me, with the latter one less than a year ago.
It’s 15.5° C, 95% RH and overcast with a light air. The overcast is a risen fog, so it will likely burn off in a couple of hours. BoM forecasts 28° C and partly cloudy, so maybe the overcast is not a risen fog. The satellite images show opaque, stationary cloud that is reducing in size. So I am now officially confused.
Sympathies Michael. I hope you find some happy memories amongst the sorrow.
captain_spalding said:
Thanks for those words.
You’re still a father, MV, and, if they were here and not you, they’d be saying, ‘thanks, Dad’.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:Thanks for those words.
You’re still a father, MV, and, if they were here and not you, they’d be saying, ‘thanks, Dad’.
:)
Not quite as windy here as the other day; I didn’t need to get up overnight to stop the shed door slamming, but I’ve just done it now.
Scone with jam and cream for brekkie. My homemade chia jam is better than the bought low-sugar spread, but it’s still tolerable.
I disapprove of the HQ DNA answer. BWWIK, I only majored in genetics.
OCDC said:
I disapprove of the HQ DNA answer. BWWIK, I only majored in genetics.
Like.
OCDC said:
Not quite as windy here as the other day; I didn’t need to get up overnight to stop the shed door slamming, but I’ve just done it now.Scone with jam and cream for brekkie. My homemade chia jam is better than the bought low-sugar spread, but it’s still tolerable.
Doesn’t your shed have a padbolt on the door?
Michael V said:
OCDC said:It has a bolt, but the door has descended a bit so the two sides are now out of alignment. Temporary fix is a lump of rock in front of the door but the wind lately has been too strong for it.Not quite as windy here as the other day; I didn’t need to get up overnight to stop the shed door slamming, but I’ve just done it now.Doesn’t your shed have a padbolt on the door?Scone with jam and cream for brekkie. My homemade chia jam is better than the bought low-sugar spread, but it’s still tolerable.
OCDC said:
Michael V said:OCDC said:It has a bolt, but the door has descended a bit so the two sides are now out of alignment. Temporary fix is a lump of rock in front of the door but the wind lately has been too strong for it.Not quite as windy here as the other day; I didn’t need to get up overnight to stop the shed door slamming, but I’ve just done it now.Doesn’t your shed have a padbolt on the door?Scone with jam and cream for brekkie. My homemade chia jam is better than the bought low-sugar spread, but it’s still tolerable.
Perhaps solve the realingment?
roughbarked said:
OCDC said:
Michael V said:Doesn’t your shed have a padbolt on the door?It has a bolt, but the door has descended a bit so the two sides are now out of alignment. Temporary fix is a lump of rock in front of the door but the wind lately has been too strong for it.
Perhaps solve the realingment?
OCDC said:
Michael V said:OCDC said:It has a bolt, but the door has descended a bit so the two sides are now out of alignment. Temporary fix is a lump of rock in front of the door but the wind lately has been too strong for it.Not quite as windy here as the other day; I didn’t need to get up overnight to stop the shed door slamming, but I’ve just done it now.Doesn’t your shed have a padbolt on the door?Scone with jam and cream for brekkie. My homemade chia jam is better than the bought low-sugar spread, but it’s still tolerable.
Ah.
We’ve taken a few emergency vehicles to Busselton cars n coffee.




Kingy said:
We’ve taken a few emergency vehicles to Busselton cars n coffee.
Just yesterday, saw a programme from the series ‘Nigel Latta Blows Stuff Up’ where, Mythbusters-style, a 1995 Holden Berlina was crashed head-on (70 kmh) into a 2013 Toyota Yaris, to see which car fared worse, and which car was most ‘survivable’.
Result: both severely damaged, but Yaris’s passenger cabin quite intact (doors opened easily), probably no major injuries, likely walk away.
Berlina: major damage to passenger cabin (doors distorted, unable to open), likely severe injuries to legs, probable brain damage from impact reaction.
I know that they drive those ‘classic’ cars carefully, but it’s never without risk.
Speaking of cars:
Here’s a record album that i’m sure we all remember:

Can anyone identify the car? I have my own guess, but i’m far from certain.
captain_spalding said:
Speaking of cars:Here’s a record album that i’m sure we all remember:
Can anyone identify the car? I have my own guess, but i’m far from certain.
Marcos GT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcos_GT
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Speaking of cars:Here’s a record album that i’m sure we all remember:
Can anyone identify the car? I have my own guess, but i’m far from certain.
Marcos GT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcos_GT
Yeah, that’s it, for sure.
My own guess (Bolwell or some sort) looked less and less likely the more i looked at the pic. That curve in the bottom of the rear window over the wheel well…
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Speaking of cars:Here’s a record album that i’m sure we all remember:
Can anyone identify the car? I have my own guess, but i’m far from certain.
Marcos GT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcos_GT
dv, did we get an official answer for the evolution question?
Anyway I think at my appointment on Tuesday we should add another antidepressant. I am as apathetic as I’ve been since last year, although crying less. Maybe even more apathetic.
OCDC said:
Anyway I think at my appointment on Tuesday we should add another antidepressant. I am as apathetic as I’ve been since last year, although crying less. Maybe even more apathetic.
I’m currently nicely mellow after finishing the weekend wine.
I should be feeling creative at times tomorrow. Usual weekly assortment ahead: Mellow, creative, amused, bleak, suicidal, cheery etc.
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
Anyway I think at my appointment on Tuesday we should add another antidepressant. I am as apathetic as I’ve been since last year, although crying less. Maybe even more apathetic.
I’m currently nicely mellow after finishing the weekend wine.
I should be feeling creative at times tomorrow. Usual weekly assortment ahead: Mellow, creative, amused, bleak, suicidal, cheery etc.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
Anyway I think at my appointment on Tuesday we should add another antidepressant. I am as apathetic as I’ve been since last year, although crying less. Maybe even more apathetic.
I’m currently nicely mellow after finishing the weekend wine.
I should be feeling creative at times tomorrow. Usual weekly assortment ahead: Mellow, creative, amused, bleak, suicidal, cheery etc.
I start my next round ( # 63) of chemo tomorrow. Not something to greet with joy.
It’s been an epic chemo journey for you, Tamb, my sympathies.
As long as you’re finding it worthwhile, it’s doing its job :)

159 outages and still going up.
sarahs mum said:
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159 outages and still going up.
Some savage moments out there in today’s wind, but maybe a bit milder than it has been.
Nonetheless our power too could drop out at any time.
OCDC said:
Anyway I think at my appointment on Tuesday we should add another antidepressant. I am as apathetic as I’ve been since last year, although crying less. Maybe even more apathetic.
have you tried marijuana?
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:I’m currently nicely mellow after finishing the weekend wine.
I should be feeling creative at times tomorrow. Usual weekly assortment ahead: Mellow, creative, amused, bleak, suicidal, cheery etc.
I start my next round ( # 63) of chemo tomorrow. Not something to greet with joy.
It’s been an epic chemo journey for you, Tamb, my sympathies.
As long as you’re finding it worthwhile, it’s doing its job :)
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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159 outages and still going up.
Some savage moments out there in today’s wind, but maybe a bit milder than it has been.
Nonetheless our power too could drop out at any time.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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159 outages and still going up.
Some savage moments out there in today’s wind, but maybe a bit milder than it has been.
Nonetheless our power too could drop out at any time.
i think it is coming round to time to actually pay Tasmanians a bit more. and you can’t say we can’t afford to when we are putting billions into sport.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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159 outages and still going up.
Some savage moments out there in today’s wind, but maybe a bit milder than it has been.
Nonetheless our power too could drop out at any time.
Do you have a genny?
no.
but i do have the fire going.
sarahs mum said:
OCDC said:No. Do not wish to. But then I never thought I’d want an antipsychotic so who knows. However, we’ve only tried escalating doses of one antidepressant so I am far from being treatment-resistant from that POV.Anyway I think at my appointment on Tuesday we should add another antidepressant. I am as apathetic as I’ve been since last year, although crying less. Maybe even more apathetic.have you tried marijuana?
sarahs mum said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:Some savage moments out there in today’s wind, but maybe a bit milder than it has been.
Nonetheless our power too could drop out at any time.
Do you have a genny?no.
but i do have the fire going.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:I start my next round ( # 63) of chemo tomorrow. Not something to greet with joy.
It’s been an epic chemo journey for you, Tamb, my sympathies.
As long as you’re finding it worthwhile, it’s doing its job :)
It’s pretty horrible but the alternative is death.
I really wish I could have a dog though. My being away for one week in four isn’t fair on the dog.
That’s a damn shame. No dog hotel you could leave it at for one week out of four?
OCDC said:
sarahs mum said:OCDC said:No. Do not wish to. But then I never thought I’d want an antipsychotic so who knows. However, we’ve only tried escalating doses of one antidepressant so I am far from being treatment-resistant from that POV.Anyway I think at my appointment on Tuesday we should add another antidepressant. I am as apathetic as I’ve been since last year, although crying less. Maybe even more apathetic.have you tried marijuana?
One of my neighbours does the prescription stuff. The daytime types have a bit of creative get up to them. He is on the daytime up and go and the night time sleep easier.
Can you knit or crochet?
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:It’s been an epic chemo journey for you, Tamb, my sympathies.
As long as you’re finding it worthwhile, it’s doing its job :)
It’s pretty horrible but the alternative is death.
I really wish I could have a dog though. My being away for one week in four isn’t fair on the dog.
That’s a damn shame. No dog hotel you could leave it at for one week out of four?
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:It’s been an epic chemo journey for you, Tamb, my sympathies.
As long as you’re finding it worthwhile, it’s doing its job :)
It’s pretty horrible but the alternative is death.
I really wish I could have a dog though. My being away for one week in four isn’t fair on the dog.
That’s a damn shame. No dog hotel you could leave it at for one week out of four?
perhaps letting the local animal shelter that you can foster 3 weeks out of four.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:It’s pretty horrible but the alternative is death.
I really wish I could have a dog though. My being away for one week in four isn’t fair on the dog.
That’s a damn shame. No dog hotel you could leave it at for one week out of four?
perhaps letting the local animal shelter that you can foster 3 weeks out of four.
That’s a better idea.
One of the reasons I have been so quiet is that I have dog sadness. Caused by my sister’s dogs. She’s got her house on the market and is going to downsize into an old people’s villa. So she decided to offer Ness the cocker spaniel to rehome because she thought she would not be happy wiih villa life.
I contemplated taking her. It would have meant I needed a kennel license. And I wondered if she wouldn’t make paisley crazier and be too much for Cobbett in his old age.
Meanwhile the spaniel rehoming people took 24 hours and found Ness a home. This was unexpected. I was so sad.
Two days after ness was picked up, Mac, the white ball of fluff dog, got run over outside the house.
So now they have no dogs. Pete is distraught. Alison is worse than depressed.
sarahs mum said:
OCDC said:Two grandmothers and one great-grandmother all tried to get me interested in both. Zilch. Sister got those genes (during lockdown she made herself 40 garments). Instead I’m bingeing Star Trek. Have just discovered I can get items from around the state sent to my local library so I’ve placed more holes. Also Jane Austens to binge for a bit of variety.sarahs mum said:One of my neighbours does the prescription stuff. The daytime types have a bit of creative get up to them. He is on the daytime up and go and the night time sleep easier.have you tried marijuana?No. Do not wish to. But then I never thought I’d want an antipsychotic so who knows. However, we’ve only tried escalating doses of one antidepressant so I am far from being treatment-resistant from that POV.
Can you knit or crochet?
OCDC said:
sarahs mum said:Normally I binge actual books but no motivation for that for months.OCDC said:Two grandmothers and one great-grandmother all tried to get me interested in both. Zilch. Sister got those genes (during lockdown she made herself 40 garments). Instead I’m bingeing Star Trek. Have just discovered I can get items from around the state sent to my local library so I’ve placed more holes. Also Jane Austens to binge for a bit of variety.No. Do not wish to. But then I never thought I’d want an antipsychotic so who knows. However, we’ve only tried escalating doses of one antidepressant so I am far from being treatment-resistant from that POV.One of my neighbours does the prescription stuff. The daytime types have a bit of creative get up to them. He is on the daytime up and go and the night time sleep easier.
Can you knit or crochet?
OCDC said:
sarahs mum said:OCDC said:Two grandmothers and one great-grandmother all tried to get me interested in both. Zilch. Sister got those genes (during lockdown she made herself 40 garments). Instead I’m bingeing Star Trek. Have just discovered I can get items from around the state sent to my local library so I’ve placed more holes. Also Jane Austens to binge for a bit of variety.No. Do not wish to. But then I never thought I’d want an antipsychotic so who knows. However, we’ve only tried escalating doses of one antidepressant so I am far from being treatment-resistant from that POV.One of my neighbours does the prescription stuff. The daytime types have a bit of creative get up to them. He is on the daytime up and go and the night time sleep easier.
Can you knit or crochet?
Suggested those because they do feed serotonin when you complete a row. A hobby that does that is a good thing. (I also do not knit or crochet.)
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
Anyway I think at my appointment on Tuesday we should add another antidepressant. I am as apathetic as I’ve been since last year, although crying less. Maybe even more apathetic.
I’m currently nicely mellow after finishing the weekend wine.
I should be feeling creative at times tomorrow. Usual weekly assortment ahead: Mellow, creative, amused, bleak, suicidal, cheery etc.
I start my next round ( # 63) of chemo tomorrow. Not something to greet with joy.
Sorry to hear, Mr Tamb. Will all this treatment eventually end up giving you the “all clear” some day??
sarahs mum said:
One of the reasons I have been so quiet is that I have dog sadness. Caused by my sister’s dogs. She’s got her house on the market and is going to downsize into an old people’s villa. So she decided to offer Ness the cocker spaniel to rehome because she thought she would not be happy wiih villa life.I contemplated taking her. It would have meant I needed a kennel license. And I wondered if she wouldn’t make paisley crazier and be too much for Cobbett in his old age.
Meanwhile the spaniel rehoming people took 24 hours and found Ness a home. This was unexpected. I was so sad.
Two days after ness was picked up, Mac, the white ball of fluff dog, got run over outside the house.
So now they have no dogs. Pete is distraught. Alison is worse than depressed.
Damn :(
Woodie said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:I’m currently nicely mellow after finishing the weekend wine.
I should be feeling creative at times tomorrow. Usual weekly assortment ahead: Mellow, creative, amused, bleak, suicidal, cheery etc.
I start my next round ( # 63) of chemo tomorrow. Not something to greet with joy.Sorry to hear, Mr Tamb. Will all this treatment eventually end up giving you the “all clear” some day??
No. It’s what is keeping him alive.
sarahs mum said:
OCDC said:Interesting. I did not know this.sarahs mum said:Suggested those because they do feed serotonin when you complete a row. A hobby that does that is a good thing. (I also do not knit or crochet.)One of my neighbours does the prescription stuff. The daytime types have a bit of creative get up to them. He is on the daytime up and go and the night time sleep easier.Two grandmothers and one great-grandmother all tried to get me interested in both. Zilch. Sister got those genes (during lockdown she made herself 40 garments). Instead I’m bingeing Star Trek. Have just discovered I can get items from around the state sent to my local library so I’ve placed more holes. Also Jane Austens to binge for a bit of variety.Can you knit or crochet?
I’m going to go and lie on the bed and read for a bit. “The Secret Life of Plants’ is rather oddly compelling reading. It’s difficult to tell at times if the authors actually believe what they are writing. It’s sort of a run through of some of the really whacky “research” done in the 1950s and 1960s, into the early 70s.
Woodie said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:I’m currently nicely mellow after finishing the weekend wine.
I should be feeling creative at times tomorrow. Usual weekly assortment ahead: Mellow, creative, amused, bleak, suicidal, cheery etc.
I start my next round ( # 63) of chemo tomorrow. Not something to greet with joy.Sorry to hear, Mr Tamb. Will all this treatment eventually end up giving you the “all clear” some day??
Tamb said:
Woodie said:
Tamb said:I start my next round ( # 63) of chemo tomorrow. Not something to greet with joy.
Sorry to hear, Mr Tamb. Will all this treatment eventually end up giving you the “all clear” some day??
No. CMML is incurable but treatable. Maybe one day a cure might be found but it’s a bone marrow cancer & so is whole body.
😢

Lake Barrington spilling yesterday.
OCDC said:
sarahs mum said:OCDC said:Interesting. I did not know this.Two grandmothers and one great-grandmother all tried to get me interested in both. Zilch. Sister got those genes (during lockdown she made herself 40 garments). Instead I’m bingeing Star Trek. Have just discovered I can get items from around the state sent to my local library so I’ve placed more holes. Also Jane Austens to binge for a bit of variety.Suggested those because they do feed serotonin when you complete a row. A hobby that does that is a good thing. (I also do not knit or crochet.)
FWIW I get the serotonin rush with maths.
sarahs mum said:
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Lake Barrington spilling yesterday.
Is it meant to over-top like that?
Burrinjuck overtopped in the 1920s, and it cracked the dam wall.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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Lake Barrington spilling yesterday.
Is it meant to over-top like that?
Burrinjuck overtopped in the 1920s, and it cracked the dam wall.
It isn’t meant to do that. No.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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Lake Barrington spilling yesterday.
Is it meant to over-top like that?
Burrinjuck overtopped in the 1920s, and it cracked the dam wall.
dunno. but it is a lot of water.
btm said:
OCDC said:
sarahs mum said:Suggested those because they do feed serotonin when you complete a row. A hobby that does that is a good thing. (I also do not knit or crochet.)Interesting. I did not know this.
FWIW I get the serotonin rush with maths.
Like reciting your times tables, do you Mr BTM?? 😁
Woodie said:
btm said:
OCDC said:
Interesting. I did not know this.
FWIW I get the serotonin rush with maths.
Like reciting your times tables, do you Mr BTM?? 😁
Not really; it’s more about the new discoveries, like when I discovered the (unexpected) relationship between 89 and √5.
captain_spalding said:
Speaking of cars:Here’s a record album that i’m sure we all remember:
Can anyone identify the car? I have my own guess, but i’m far from certain.
Not his, I’d guess.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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Lake Barrington spilling yesterday.
Is it meant to over-top like that?
Burrinjuck overtopped in the 1920s, and it cracked the dam wall.
dunno. but it is a lot of water.
It was designed to spill over the dam wall.
https://heritage.engineersaustralia.org.au/wiki/Place:Devils_Gate_Dam
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:Is it meant to over-top like that?
Burrinjuck overtopped in the 1920s, and it cracked the dam wall.
dunno. but it is a lot of water.
It was designed to spill over the dam wall.
https://heritage.engineersaustralia.org.au/wiki/Place:Devils_Gate_Dam
OK.
btm said:
Woodie said:
btm said:FWIW I get the serotonin rush with maths.
Like reciting your times tables, do you Mr BTM?? 😁
Not really; it’s more about the new discoveries, like when I discovered the (unexpected) relationship between 89 and √5.
And what is this (unexpected) relationship between 89 and √5?
Michael V said:
btm said:Please enlighten us; I, too, wish to know.Woodie said:And what is this (unexpected) relationship between 89 and √5?Like reciting your times tables, do you Mr BTM?? 😁Not really; it’s more about the new discoveries, like when I discovered the (unexpected) relationship between 89 and √5.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/aug/28/northern-bald-ibis-bird-back-from-extinction-now-scientists-in-a-glider-are-teaching-it-to-migrate-aoe
>>Commonwealth Games Scotland said it will use almost $200 million of Victorian government money to deliver an “innovative, cost-effective and sustainable” Games in Glasgow in 2026.
The 200 million was paid to the Commonwealth Games by Victoria for cancelling the games.
OCDC are you watching this chat thread? Got a list of my stash of TV series, in case you want more than ST.
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Commonwealth Games Scotland said it will use almost $200 million of Victorian government money to deliver an “innovative, cost-effective and sustainable” Games in Glasgow in 2026.The 200 million was paid to the Commonwealth Games by Victoria for cancelling the games.
Sounds like a good deal. A lot cheaper than actually staging the Games.
I wonder how much the IOC wants for Brisbane to have the right to not host the 2032 Olympics?
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Commonwealth Games Scotland said it will use almost $200 million of Victorian government money to deliver an “innovative, cost-effective and sustainable” Games in Glasgow in 2026.The 200 million was paid to the Commonwealth Games by Victoria for cancelling the games.
Sounds like a good deal. A lot cheaper than actually staging the Games.
I wonder how much the IOC wants for Brisbane to have the right to not host the 2032 Olympics?
:)
Cold Front forecast to move across Victoria
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC are you watching this chat thread? Got a list of my stash of TV series, in case you want more than ST.Yes, and please.
Peak Warming Man said:
Cold Front forecast to move across VictoriaNo, I’m staying home.
OCDC said:
Spiny Norman said:Btw, Lower Decks is fun and has some good Easter eggs.OCDC are you watching this chat thread? Got a list of my stash of TV series, in case you want more than ST.Yes, and please.
OCDC said:
Peak Warming Man said:Cold Front forecast to move across VictoriaNo, I’m staying home.
Shut the shed door.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/sep/01/tasmanians-prepare-to-evacuate-amid-major-flood-warning-as-victorians-warned-of-destructive-winds
roughbarked said:
OCDC said:I’ve already reinforced it with more rocks.Peak Warming Man said:Shut the shed door.Cold Front forecast to move across VictoriaNo, I’m staying home.
OCDC said:
roughbarked said:OCDC said:I’ve already reinforced it with more rocks.No, I’m staying home.Shut the shed door.
mine has a similarly wonky door. I have it wedged with a piece of gal pipe.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said::)
If Brisbane is actually going to have those Olympics, you’d think that they’d be extradigitating by now. I mean, it takes forever for anything to be constructed in Qld.
But, no, absolutely SFA has been done so far, other than a lot of hot air expended over some proposals for the Gabba, which have been abandoned as impractical (as anyone with a drop of sense knew they were, from the word ‘go’).
Still, the longer you leave it, the greater the air of desperation, and the easier it is to get away with the guaranteed massive cost over-runs.
OCDC said:
Spiny Norman said:OCDC are you watching this chat thread? Got a list of my stash of TV series, in case you want more than ST.Yes, and please.
You’ll have to open the image in a new tab to read it, etc.

OCDC said:
roughbarked said:OCDC said:I’ve already reinforced it with more rocks.No, I’m staying home.Shut the shed door.
reposition the bolt.
Peak Warming Man said:
Cold Front forecast to move across Victoria
It’s been here all day. At least in the West of the state. VicEmergency is now showing a lot trees down and building damage in Melbourne.
sarahs mum said:
OCDC said:
roughbarked said:Shut the shed door.I’ve already reinforced it with more rocks.
mine has a similarly wonky door. I have it wedged with a piece of gal pipe.
Or, you could have said “…I have reinforced it with a piece of pipe, gal”.
sarahs mum said:
OCDC said:
roughbarked said:Shut the shed door.I’ve already reinforced it with more rocks.
mine has a similarly wonky door. I have it wedged with a piece of gal pipe.
We’ve got a piece of wood…at the woodshed to hold the door open when you go in there. Or it bangs closed on you, which is annoying when you have just filled your arms with wood. The inside of the door is a spider high rise…so you don’t back your way out pushing the door.
ChrispenEvan said:
OCDC said:I do not have the equipment to cut through metal. Father is visiting on Friday to tend to it. (Branch from neighbour’s tree landed on roof, buckling it and the door frame.)roughbarked said:reposition the bolt.Shut the shed door.I’ve already reinforced it with more rocks.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
OCDC said:
I’ve already reinforced it with more rocks.
mine has a similarly wonky door. I have it wedged with a piece of gal pipe.
We’ve got a piece of wood…at the woodshed to hold the door open when you go in there. Or it bangs closed on you, which is annoying when you have just filled your arms with wood. The inside of the door is a spider high rise…so you don’t back your way out pushing the door.
The banging shed door here is next door. I probably should ask them to wedge that.
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC said:Doesn’t want to work for me. Can you email me? I’ve just sent you one (although I’ve not changed email addresses either).Spiny Norman said:You’ll have to open the image in a new tab to read it, etc.OCDC are you watching this chat thread? Got a list of my stash of TV series, in case you want more than ST.Yes, and please.
OCDC said:
Spiny Norman said:OCDC said:Doesn’t want to work for me. Can you email me? I’ve just sent you one (although I’ve not changed email addresses either).Yes, and please.You’ll have to open the image in a new tab to read it, etc.
Replied. :)
btm said:
OCDC said:
sarahs mum said:Suggested those because they do feed serotonin when you complete a row. A hobby that does that is a good thing. (I also do not knit or crochet.)Interesting. I did not know this.
FWIW I get the serotonin rush with maths.
nerd
Arts said:
btm said:
OCDC said:
Interesting. I did not know this.
FWIW I get the serotonin rush with maths.
nerd
I read that as Meths.
I have spent the day at the zoo.. but not in the fun being out in the grounds talking with visitors way, I have been bringing all their files up to compliance… it was a huge undertaking (about 40 hours all up) and I have a sense of satisfaction right now because it’s done.
but fuck me, old people like to keep the most inane shit… however I did find a couple of gems from a past era in there, so it was at least somewhat interesting..
anyway… we have up to date files and we comply with legal regulations and I got to shove a bunch of papers into the shredder…
Arts said:
I have spent the day at the zoo.. but not in the fun being out in the grounds talking with visitors way, I have been bringing all their files up to compliance… it was a huge undertaking (about 40 hours all up) and I have a sense of satisfaction right now because it’s done.but fuck me, old people like to keep the most inane shit… however I did find a couple of gems from a past era in there, so it was at least somewhat interesting..
anyway… we have up to date files and we comply with legal regulations and I got to shove a bunch of papers into the shredder…
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
I have spent the day at the zoo.. but not in the fun being out in the grounds talking with visitors way, I have been bringing all their files up to compliance… it was a huge undertaking (about 40 hours all up) and I have a sense of satisfaction right now because it’s done.but fuck me, old people like to keep the most inane shit… however I did find a couple of gems from a past era in there, so it was at least somewhat interesting..
anyway… we have up to date files and we comply with legal regulations and I got to shove a bunch of papers into the shredder…
I’m an old people
and my other half who is slightly older yet she who must be obeyed thinks I keep too much old shit that should have been trashed.
She probably knows that I spend 3/4 of my time looking for whatever it was that I thought I was looking for.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-01/tasmania-floods-heavy-winds-rain-ses-live-blog/104296154
Tell ‘em what we do to people who pronounce Twinings as Twinnings.
dv said:
Tell ‘em what we do to people who pronounce Twinings as Twinnings.
This is how we fucked this planet.

Hey Worst Australian what’s the Perth News today??

The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
ABC Sunday quiz25/50. Five guesses, all wrong. My 5 correct answers were ones I actually did know, although I had to drag a couple of them out from the boxes in the brain attic.
25/50 also
I only knew 3, and I got one of those wrong :)
35/50
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Tell ‘em what we do to people who pronounce Twinings as Twinnings.
This is how we fucked this planet.
put it in a tree museum.
burned it down.
dv said:
Hey Worst Australian what’s the Perth News today??
“…stuns fans…”
(Lady, to ambulance officers): ‘I found him just like you see him now. Glass-eyed, mouth open, seems unable to move. He didn’t respond when i spoke to him, but then he started mumbling, ‘Kate Walsh…pixie cut…Kate Walsh…pixie cut’”.
roughbarked said:
OCDC said:
I disapprove of the HQ DNA answer. BWWIK, I only majored in genetics.
Like.
It’s kind of hard to make that kind of comparison meaningfully without giving a brief course.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Tell ‘em what we do to people who pronounce Twinings as Twinnings.
This is how we fucked this planet.
put it in a tree museum.
burned it down.
and put up a parking lot.
OCDC said:
Michael V said:btm said:Please enlighten us; I, too, wish to know.Not really; it’s more about the new discoveries, like when I discovered the (unexpected) relationship between 89 and √5.And what is this (unexpected) relationship between 89 and √5?
Sorry, had to go and prepare food.
I was hoping that would intrigue you enough to try to find it yourself — although, to be fair, I was exploring discrete Laplace transforms when I found it.
I’ll post what I found if no-one wants to try it themselves (you don’t need discrete Laplace transforms to find it.)
dv said:
roughbarked said:
OCDC said:
I disapprove of the HQ DNA answer. BWWIK, I only majored in genetics.
Like.
It’s kind of hard to make that kind of comparison meaningfully without giving a brief course.
Are you talking to me or Alex?
Arts said:
btm said:
OCDC said:
Interesting. I did not know this.
FWIW I get the serotonin rush with maths.
nerd
Yes, as I pointed out to sibeen several times when he made the same observation.
btm said:
OCDC said:
Michael V said:And what is this (unexpected) relationship between 89 and √5?Please enlighten us; I, too, wish to know.
Sorry, had to go and prepare food.
I was hoping that would intrigue you enough to try to find it yourself — although, to be fair, I was exploring discrete Laplace transforms when I found it.
I’ll post what I found if no-one wants to try it themselves (you don’t need discrete Laplace transforms to find it.)
We will be with you when you get back to us.
cornflakes, in cold milk
what i’m eating, I know you were secretly wondering, you were in a state of forever intrigue, pathological intrigue, fixated, being consumed by intrigue, being sucked into a black hole of intrigue, you’re looking back out at the past when you minded your own business, it’s fast fading as the intrigue collapses with you, you are to become an oblivion, you and your intrigue inseparable
and scraped the last few cornflakes off the side of the bowl, while got that typing practice, tipped the bowl up and drank the dregs like a pig, a pig, a happy pig
OCDC said:
dv, did we get an official answer for the evolution question?
I wouldn’t say an official answer but looking through me boy’s notes they gave examples like the peppered moth and the soot.
btm said:
OCDC said:I search engined unsuccessfully.Michael V said:Sorry, had to go and prepare food.And what is this (unexpected) relationship between 89 and √5?Please enlighten us; I, too, wish to know.
I was hoping that would intrigue you enough to try to find it yourself — although, to be fair, I was exploring discrete Laplace transforms when I found it.
I’ll post what I found if no-one wants to try it themselves (you don’t need discrete Laplace transforms to find it.)
dv said:
OCDC said:Ta.dv, did we get an official answer for the evolution question?I wouldn’t say an official answer but looking through me boy’s notes they gave examples like the peppered moth and the soot.
OCDC said:
btm said:OCDC said:I search engined unsuccessfully.Please enlighten us; I, too, wish to know.Sorry, had to go and prepare food.
I was hoping that would intrigue you enough to try to find it yourself — although, to be fair, I was exploring discrete Laplace transforms when I found it.
I’ll post what I found if no-one wants to try it themselves (you don’t need discrete Laplace transforms to find it.)
LOL. #Me too.
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
btm said:Sorry, had to go and prepare food.I search engined unsuccessfully.I was hoping that would intrigue you enough to try to find it yourself — although, to be fair, I was exploring discrete Laplace transforms when I found it.
I’ll post what I found if no-one wants to try it themselves (you don’t need discrete Laplace transforms to find it.)
LOL. #Me too.
I didn’t search. I knew it was beyond me.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
I search engined unsuccessfully.
LOL. #Me too.
I didn’t search. I knew it was beyond me.
I searched everywhere too.
Including down the back of the couch, bottom of the sock drawer, behind the fridge and even in the washing machine.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
roughbarked said:Like.
It’s kind of hard to make that kind of comparison meaningfully without giving a brief course.
Are you talking to me or Alex?
Oh… either
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:LOL. #Me too.
I didn’t search. I knew it was beyond me.
I searched everywhere too.
Including down the back of the couch, bottom of the sock drawer, behind the fridge and even in the washing machine.
Yet it was probably right there in frint of you all the time.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:It’s kind of hard to make that kind of comparison meaningfully without giving a brief course.
Are you talking to me or Alex?
Oh… either
LOL ;)

The Mercury Newspaper
25m ·
Several rivers in the north have burst their banks and many are without power as the government warns that the worst of the wild weather is still yet to come.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:LOL. #Me too.
I didn’t search. I knew it was beyond me.
I searched everywhere too.
Including down the back of the couch, bottom of the sock drawer, behind the fridge and even in the washing machine.
In the freezer. Safest place.
buffy said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:I didn’t search. I knew it was beyond me.
I searched everywhere too.
Including down the back of the couch, bottom of the sock drawer, behind the fridge and even in the washing machine.
In the freezer. Safest place.
Nobody looks there.
Unless it is for that tab of LSD they put there years ago.roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Woodie said:I searched everywhere too.
Including down the back of the couch, bottom of the sock drawer, behind the fridge and even in the washing machine.
In the freezer. Safest place.
Nobody looks there.
Unless it is for that tab of LSD they put there years ago.
i met a guy who had stored some back dots in the ice cube trays. His father used the ice to make a scotch. his father then spent the night down in his workshop with the lights on.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:In the freezer. Safest place.
Nobody looks there.
Unless it is for that tab of LSD they put there years ago.i met a guy who had stored some back dots in the ice cube trays. His father used the ice to make a scotch. his father then spent the night down in his workshop with the lights on.
Doing an all nighter.
I might start developing trust issues at this rate.
A few weeks ago I bought a new radio for my work ute. I had been caught out before with buying a radio that turned out to be FM only, so I specifically bought a AM/FM radio. I spent 2 hours yesterday dissembling, rewiring , installing and reassembling the dashboard and turned it on. It’s FM only, despite being labelled as an AM/FM radio on the box. Grrr.
Then…
This arvo I’ve been wiring up an electric tarp motor on the work truck. The truck is 24V and the tarp motor is 12V. Luckily the truck comes with two 12V power outlets, clearly labelled as 12V. After finishing most of the wiring and installing the switches for it, I thought that I should make sure that the power outlets were getting power, and guess what. 26V. Faaarrk!!!!
Now I have to buy a voltage converter as well. And I don’t have an electric tarp for tomorrow. :/

Kingy said:
I might start developing trust issues at this rate.A few weeks ago I bought a new radio for my work ute. I had been caught out before with buying a radio that turned out to be FM only, so I specifically bought a AM/FM radio. I spent 2 hours yesterday dissembling, rewiring , installing and reassembling the dashboard and turned it on. It’s FM only, despite being labelled as an AM/FM radio on the box. Grrr.
Then…
This arvo I’ve been wiring up an electric tarp motor on the work truck. The truck is 24V and the tarp motor is 12V. Luckily the truck comes with two 12V power outlets, clearly labelled as 12V. After finishing most of the wiring and installing the switches for it, I thought that I should make sure that the power outlets were getting power, and guess what. 26V. Faaarrk!!!!
Now I have to buy a voltage converter as well. And I don’t have an electric tarp for tomorrow. :/
Life.
Only gets complicated when you make it thus.
Anyway, some more pics from this morning…








Kingy said:
Anyway, some more pics from this morning…
A lovely lot of gas guzzlers.






Kingy said:
I might start developing trust issues at this rate.A few weeks ago I bought a new radio for my work ute. I had been caught out before with buying a radio that turned out to be FM only, so I specifically bought a AM/FM radio. I spent 2 hours yesterday dissembling, rewiring , installing and reassembling the dashboard and turned it on. It’s FM only, despite being labelled as an AM/FM radio on the box. Grrr.
Then…
This arvo I’ve been wiring up an electric tarp motor on the work truck. The truck is 24V and the tarp motor is 12V. Luckily the truck comes with two 12V power outlets, clearly labelled as 12V. After finishing most of the wiring and installing the switches for it, I thought that I should make sure that the power outlets were getting power, and guess what. 26V. Faaarrk!!!!
Now I have to buy a voltage converter as well. And I don’t have an electric tarp for tomorrow. :/
i read on facebook the other day about someone who had their coles order substituted. AA batteries for AAA batteries.
sarahs mum said:
Kingy said:
I might start developing trust issues at this rate.A few weeks ago I bought a new radio for my work ute. I had been caught out before with buying a radio that turned out to be FM only, so I specifically bought a AM/FM radio. I spent 2 hours yesterday dissembling, rewiring , installing and reassembling the dashboard and turned it on. It’s FM only, despite being labelled as an AM/FM radio on the box. Grrr.
Then…
This arvo I’ve been wiring up an electric tarp motor on the work truck. The truck is 24V and the tarp motor is 12V. Luckily the truck comes with two 12V power outlets, clearly labelled as 12V. After finishing most of the wiring and installing the switches for it, I thought that I should make sure that the power outlets were getting power, and guess what. 26V. Faaarrk!!!!
Now I have to buy a voltage converter as well. And I don’t have an electric tarp for tomorrow. :/
i read on facebook the other day about someone who had their coles order substituted. AA batteries for AAA batteries.
LOL
sarahs mum said:
Kingy said:
I might start developing trust issues at this rate.A few weeks ago I bought a new radio for my work ute. I had been caught out before with buying a radio that turned out to be FM only, so I specifically bought a AM/FM radio. I spent 2 hours yesterday dissembling, rewiring , installing and reassembling the dashboard and turned it on. It’s FM only, despite being labelled as an AM/FM radio on the box. Grrr.
Then…
This arvo I’ve been wiring up an electric tarp motor on the work truck. The truck is 24V and the tarp motor is 12V. Luckily the truck comes with two 12V power outlets, clearly labelled as 12V. After finishing most of the wiring and installing the switches for it, I thought that I should make sure that the power outlets were getting power, and guess what. 26V. Faaarrk!!!!
Now I have to buy a voltage converter as well. And I don’t have an electric tarp for tomorrow. :/
i read on facebook the other day about someone who had their coles order substituted. AA batteries for AAA batteries.
Probably lucky they didn’t get an artillery battery.
Kingy said:
sarahs mum said:
Kingy said:
I might start developing trust issues at this rate.A few weeks ago I bought a new radio for my work ute. I had been caught out before with buying a radio that turned out to be FM only, so I specifically bought a AM/FM radio. I spent 2 hours yesterday dissembling, rewiring , installing and reassembling the dashboard and turned it on. It’s FM only, despite being labelled as an AM/FM radio on the box. Grrr.
Then…
This arvo I’ve been wiring up an electric tarp motor on the work truck. The truck is 24V and the tarp motor is 12V. Luckily the truck comes with two 12V power outlets, clearly labelled as 12V. After finishing most of the wiring and installing the switches for it, I thought that I should make sure that the power outlets were getting power, and guess what. 26V. Faaarrk!!!!
Now I have to buy a voltage converter as well. And I don’t have an electric tarp for tomorrow. :/
i read on facebook the other day about someone who had their coles order substituted. AA batteries for AAA batteries.
Probably lucky they didn’t get an artillery battery.
!
Moar picks







Kingy said:
Anyway, some more pics from this morning…
verr nyce
Kingy said:
Moar picks
There’s a bloody lot of them.
Kingy said:
Moar picks
Gotta love the old Police Sandman :)





roughbarked said:
Kingy said:
Moar picks
There’s a bloody lot of them.
.. hope the coffee was of a good standard.






party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
Kingy said:
Moar picks
There’s a bloody lot of them.
.. hope the coffee was of a good standard.
Need something to bolster the body to move around all of that.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
Kingy said:
Moar picks
There’s a bloody lot of them.
.. hope the coffee was of a good standard.
Now there is a sad story. It was advertised as a cars n coffee morning. Guess who got called to the coffee van first thing because it was not working and just producing smoke instead of coffee.
Long story short, no coffee. Just cars.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:There’s a bloody lot of them.
.. hope the coffee was of a good standard.
Need something to bolster the body to move around all of that.
No way Holden put this motor in that body,

Kingy said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:There’s a bloody lot of them.
.. hope the coffee was of a good standard.
Now there is a sad story. It was advertised as a cars n coffee morning. Guess who got called to the coffee van first thing because it was not working and just producing smoke instead of coffee.
Long story short, no coffee. Just cars.
Now this is where Jesus would have wept.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:.. hope the coffee was of a good standard.
Need something to bolster the body to move around all of that.
No way Holden put this motor in that body,
Correct, I was wondering if anyone would pick that up. It purred like a kitten.
An angry kitten, probably on meth or something.






Kingy said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:There’s a bloody lot of them.
.. hope the coffee was of a good standard.
Now there is a sad story. It was advertised as a cars n coffee morning. Guess who got called to the coffee van first thing because it was not working and just producing smoke instead of coffee.
Long story short, no coffee. Just cars.
As a coffee lover, I am so disappointed. I was hoping for photos of flat whites, skinny caps and soy lattes.
I bet the organiser is secretly a tea drinker.
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
party_pants said:.. hope the coffee was of a good standard.
Now there is a sad story. It was advertised as a cars n coffee morning. Guess who got called to the coffee van first thing because it was not working and just producing smoke instead of coffee.
Long story short, no coffee. Just cars.
As a coffee lover, I am so disappointed. I was hoping for photos of flat whites, skinny caps and soy lattes.
I bet the organiser is secretly a tea drinker.
Chuckle.
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
party_pants said:.. hope the coffee was of a good standard.
Now there is a sad story. It was advertised as a cars n coffee morning. Guess who got called to the coffee van first thing because it was not working and just producing smoke instead of coffee.
Long story short, no coffee. Just cars.
As a coffee lover, I am so disappointed. I was hoping for photos of flat whites, skinny caps and soy lattes.
I bet the organiser is secretly a tea drinker.
I bet the coffee van owner is trying to claiming his losses from his insurance company. I’ll also bet that the insurance company execs are tea drinkers, and will decline the claim.
Henry Hook was not the vagabond and malingerer as portrayed in the movie Zulu but after discharge he didn’t prosper.
Let’s go to the tape.
“After his 1880 discharge he was found the position of inside duster at the British Museum thanks to the intervention of Gonville Bromhead, Lord Chelmsford and the Prince of Wales. He was subsequently promoted to take charge of readers’ umbrellas, before resigning due to ill health in 1904”
Peak Warming Man said:
Henry Hook was not the vagabond and malingerer as portrayed in the movie Zulu but after discharge he didn’t prosper.
Let’s go to the tape.“After his 1880 discharge he was found the position of inside duster at the British Museum thanks to the intervention of Gonville Bromhead, Lord Chelmsford and the Prince of Wales. He was subsequently promoted to take charge of readers’ umbrellas, before resigning due to ill health in 1904”





In other news, Sri Lanka are 3/61 chasing an improbable 483 for victory over England & Whales at Lords.
Peak Warming Man said:
Henry Hook was not the vagabond and malingerer as portrayed in the movie Zulu but after discharge he didn’t prosper.
Let’s go to the tape.“After his 1880 discharge he was found the position of inside duster at the British Museum thanks to the intervention of Gonville Bromhead, Lord Chelmsford and the Prince of Wales. He was subsequently promoted to take charge of readers’ umbrellas, before resigning due to ill health in 1904”
just gotta love the class system in the olden days.
Kingy said:
Wouldn’t they like to get their hands on this?

roughbarked said:
Kingy said:
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Wouldn’t they like to get their hands on this?
Yes.
I did get a little bit of work done on my rust bucket this arvo.

roughbarked said:
Kingy said:
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Wouldn’t they like to get their hands on this?
Judging by the look of the half buried hulk on the left they are taking the phrase ‘car graveyard’ quite literally.
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
Kingy said:
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Wouldn’t they like to get their hands on this?
Judging by the look of the half buried hulk on the left they are taking the phrase ‘car graveyard’ quite literally.
Peak Warming Man said:
Henry Hook was not the vagabond and malingerer as portrayed in the movie Zulu but after discharge he didn’t prosper.
Let’s go to the tape.“He was subsequently promoted to take charge of readers’ umbrellas”
That’s a serious responsibility. Do you think he was up to it?
Kingy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Henry Hook was not the vagabond and malingerer as portrayed in the movie Zulu but after discharge he didn’t prosper.
Let’s go to the tape.“He was subsequently promoted to take charge of readers’ umbrellas”
That’s a serious responsibility. Do you think he was up to it?
It took it’s toll on his health, he died at 54.
An assegai spear wound to the head didn’t help.
Peak Warming Man said:
Kingy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Henry Hook was not the vagabond and malingerer as portrayed in the movie Zulu but after discharge he didn’t prosper.
Let’s go to the tape.“He was subsequently promoted to take charge of readers’ umbrellas”
That’s a serious responsibility. Do you think he was up to it?
It took it’s toll on his health, he died at 54.
An assegai spear wound to the head didn’t help.
Thanks PWM, just spent nearly half an hour down a wikipedia rabbit hole about Rorke’s Drift.
Those Zulu’s don’t like the cold steel up ‘em.
Kingy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Kingy said:That’s a serious responsibility. Do you think he was up to it?
It took it’s toll on his health, he died at 54.
An assegai spear wound to the head didn’t help.
Thanks PWM, just spent nearly half an hour down a wikipedia rabbit hole about Rorke’s Drift.
Those Zulu’s don’t like the cold steel up ‘em.
There were only half a dozen tribes that did like the cold steel up ‘em. But sadly they are now all extinct for reasons unexplained by science.
“The Bureau of Meteorology has warned Tasmania is about to be hit by another surge of damaging, potentially destructive winds in the north and west of the state.”
Tap tap
Tasmania, are you still there?
Kingy said:
“The Bureau of Meteorology has warned Tasmania is about to be hit by another surge of damaging, potentially destructive winds in the north and west of the state.”Tap tap
Tasmania, are you still there?
Nup. They’ve been blown a hundred or so kilometres to the right.
Kingy said:
“The Bureau of Meteorology has warned Tasmania is about to be hit by another surge of damaging, potentially destructive winds in the north and west of the state.”Tap tap
Tasmania, are you still there?
glad I live up hill.
Kingy said:
“The Bureau of Meteorology has warned Tasmania is about to be hit by another surge of damaging, potentially destructive winds in the north and west of the state.”Tap tap
Tasmania, are you still there?
Crazy mad wind here. Really frightening. Seems as though the front windows are going to give way at any time.
The event where the people with steel weapons and modern agriculture invaded South Africa and displaced the native population, who were basically stone age pastoralists, occurred around 600 AD. The Zulus descend from those invaders.
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
“The Bureau of Meteorology has warned Tasmania is about to be hit by another surge of damaging, potentially destructive winds in the north and west of the state.”Tap tap
Tasmania, are you still there?
Crazy mad wind here. Really frightening. Seems as though the front windows are going to give way at any time.
you should take a photo of your river tomorrow mr car.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
“The Bureau of Meteorology has warned Tasmania is about to be hit by another surge of damaging, potentially destructive winds in the north and west of the state.”Tap tap
Tasmania, are you still there?
Crazy mad wind here. Really frightening. Seems as though the front windows are going to give way at any time.
you should take a photo of your river tomorrow mr car.
Horrid weather expected tomorrow too, can’t see me going anywhere.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
“The Bureau of Meteorology has warned Tasmania is about to be hit by another surge of damaging, potentially destructive winds in the north and west of the state.”Tap tap
Tasmania, are you still there?
Crazy mad wind here. Really frightening. Seems as though the front windows are going to give way at any time.
you should take a photo of your river tomorrow mr car.
is this Deloraine?
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Crazy mad wind here. Really frightening. Seems as though the front windows are going to give way at any time.
you should take a photo of your river tomorrow mr car.
is this Deloraine?
Looks like the railway bridge there, yes.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Crazy mad wind here. Really frightening. Seems as though the front windows are going to give way at any time.
you should take a photo of your river tomorrow mr car.
Horrid weather expected tomorrow too, can’t see me going anywhere.
If this wind keeps up, Parpyone, by lunchtime tomorrow, you’ll be just off the coast of New Zealand. They may want to see your passport.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:you should take a photo of your river tomorrow mr car.
is this Deloraine?
Looks like the railway bridge there, yes.
that probably means that the caravan park is under…again.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:is this Deloraine?
Looks like the railway bridge there, yes.
that probably means that the caravan park is under…again.
good thing you are on a mountain
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Looks like the railway bridge there, yes.
that probably means that the caravan park is under…again.
good thing you are on a mountain
…… or you don’t live in a caravan park, hey what but!
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Looks like the railway bridge there, yes.
that probably means that the caravan park is under…again.
good thing you are on a mountain
that’s what I think.
I have learned of a new method of decluttering.
If an object in your house has poop on it, would you clean it or throw it out?
Kingy said:
I have learned of a new method of decluttering.If an object in your house has poop on it, would you clean it or throw it out?
Depends if it’s your own, or someone else’s.
Woodie said:
Kingy said:
I have learned of a new method of decluttering.If an object in your house has poop on it, would you clean it or throw it out?
Depends if it’s your own, or someone else’s.
You mean the object or the poop, Cuz Woodie?
Neophyte said:
Woodie said:
Kingy said:
I have learned of a new method of decluttering.If an object in your house has poop on it, would you clean it or throw it out?
Depends if it’s your own, or someone else’s.
You mean the object or the poop, Cuz Woodie?
Either way, same solution. 😁
Woodie said:
Neophyte said:
Woodie said:Depends if it’s your own, or someone else’s.
You mean the object or the poop, Cuz Woodie?
Either way, same solution. 😁
Considering all combinations and permutations thereof, of course. 😁
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
Kingy said:
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Wouldn’t they like to get their hands on this?
Judging by the look of the half buried hulk on the left they are taking the phrase ‘car graveyard’ quite literally.
They are in a bulldozer cut.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees at the back door and still windy. Still gusting into the 60s, but it looks like we might have gone high 80s or low 90s during the night. It was certainly a noisy night. There is some mess in the backyard but I haven’t had a good look yet.
Internet running very slowly here. I’ll come back here later.
Hitting 50km/h here.
I’n a long way from Tasmania.
Quite calm here at the moment but more mayhem expected.
I think last night’s worst few hours may have been the most violent wind I’ve experienced in this village.
kryten said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees at the back door and still windy. Still gusting into the 60s, but it looks like we might have gone high 80s or low 90s during the night. It was certainly a noisy night. There is some mess in the backyard but I haven’t had a good look yet.Internet running very slowly here. I’ll come back here later.
oops, forgot to check if Mr buffy’s computer was logged in. Presently waiting 30 seconds or so after a mouse click for anything to happen internet wise.
buffy said:
kryten said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees at the back door and still windy. Still gusting into the 60s, but it looks like we might have gone high 80s or low 90s during the night. It was certainly a noisy night. There is some mess in the backyard but I haven’t had a good look yet.Internet running very slowly here. I’ll come back here later.
oops, forgot to check if Mr buffy’s computer was logged in. Presently waiting 30 seconds or so after a mouse click for anything to happen internet wise.
It is slow here as well. But I don’t have broadband
BBC News:


sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
“The Bureau of Meteorology has warned Tasmania is about to be hit by another surge of damaging, potentially destructive winds in the north and west of the state.”Tap tap
Tasmania, are you still there?
Crazy mad wind here. Really frightening. Seems as though the front windows are going to give way at any time.
you should take a photo of your river tomorrow mr car.
It’s probably looking very impressive but alas, I’m not feeling adventurous enough to go out.
Apart from anything else I got little sleep last night.
I’ve done a walk around our houseblock. It seems the only tree to drop stuff was the huge old redgum. Buddha has got a hanger branch over him now. I’ll have to move him out from there and put him somewhere else until the branch actually drops. But not until things are less windy and wet. If he cops it in the meantime, so be it.
Mr buffy has gone around to get his newspaper, so he will collect the local gossip as he goes.
I’ve taken a couple of pictures, I’ll see if we have got enough internet strength to put them up here.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Crazy mad wind here. Really frightening. Seems as though the front windows are going to give way at any time.
you should take a photo of your river tomorrow mr car.
It’s probably looking very impressive but alas, I’m not feeling adventurous enough to go out.
Apart from anything else I got little sleep last night.
A bit blowy down south.
OK, here are a couple of pictures. We’ve got off pretty light. We have got power. We have got very slow interwebs.
Buddha..sword of Damocles hanging over him.

And there’s a bit of kindling to collect from the “lawn”.

(Ooh, upload is good. As we are on 4G at the moment, the backup for the wireless NBN, and it’s Monday morning so everyone will be using it, I’m surprised at that. Given downloading is very, very, slow)
Morning pilgrims, a bit blowy down south, perfect in the Pearl top of 33 so the dart throwers say.
And we seem to be speeding up a bit.
Ian said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:you should take a photo of your river tomorrow mr car.
It’s probably looking very impressive but alas, I’m not feeling adventurous enough to go out.
Apart from anything else I got little sleep last night.
A bit blowy down south.
Article in the Garud referring to an Emily Wind. New to me.

Mornington, Victoria
Ian said:
Ian said:
Bubblecar said:It’s probably looking very impressive but alas, I’m not feeling adventurous enough to go out.
Apart from anything else I got little sleep last night.
A bit blowy down south.
Article in the Garud referring to an Emily Wind. New to me.
Mornington, Victoria
By line…
Michael V said:
Ian said:
Ian said:A bit blowy down south.
Article in the Garud referring to an Emily Wind. New to me.
Mornington, Victoria
By line…
IKR
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Ian said:Article in the Garud referring to an Emily Wind. New to me.
Mornington, Victoria
By line…
IKR
Emily Wind is a live blogger and reporter for Guardian Australia based in Sydney.

Somewhere in Tassie.
Ian said:
Ian said:
Bubblecar said:It’s probably looking very impressive but alas, I’m not feeling adventurous enough to go out.
Apart from anything else I got little sleep last night.
A bit blowy down south.
Article in the Garud referring to an Emily Wind. New to me.
Mornington, Victoria
Never heard of an Emily wind either.
Today is World Coconut Day.
buffy said:
OK, here are a couple of pictures. We’ve got off pretty light. We have got power. We have got very slow interwebs.Buddha..sword of Damocles hanging over him.
And there’s a bit of kindling to collect from the “lawn”.
(Ooh, upload is good. As we are on 4G at the moment, the backup for the wireless NBN, and it’s Monday morning so everyone will be using it, I’m surprised at that. Given downloading is very, very, slow)
Bit messy out the back at my place, but it already was.
I ask what’s for breakfast
I has none bread or cornflakes
me’d writes poem about’t
but would need an injury, mate
gets neurons concussed
is a special task skill’t do takes
dear God I might founds’t
Must have been quite a lot of birds blown out of nests last night, I’d imagine.
transition said:
I ask what’s for breakfast
I has none bread or cornflakes
me’d writes poem about’t
but would need an injury, mate
gets neurons concussed
is a special task skill’t do takes
dear God I might founds’t
You might have to have a bowl of grated carrot.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
I ask what’s for breakfast
I has none bread or cornflakes
me’d writes poem about’t
but would need an injury, mate
gets neurons concussed
is a special task skill’t do takes
dear God I might founds’t
You might have to have a bowl of grated carrot.
chuckle, you’re cunny funt this morning
Bubblecar said:
Today is World Coconut Day.
Just like me.
“Crazy in the coconut”
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Today is World Coconut Day.
Just like me.
“Crazy in the coconut”
That boy needs therapy.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Today is World Coconut Day.
Just like me.
“Crazy in the coconut”
That boy needs therapy.
:)
That’s the one.
No damage here or for the fam in Warragul, but they had a gust of 124 overnight and lost power for a bit. I think mine may have been off for a while too because the oven was making its annoying high-pitched whine when I got up.
Meanwhile second with jam and cream was enjoyed for brekkie.
Also Mother’s house was shaking overnight (stumps, not slab).
Wind got up to 76 clicks here.
Mostly at around 50.
Right then…between squalls I have gathered the dry stuff that came down and made a kindling pile. The green stuff will go through the chipper. I’ve got a couple of heaps of prunings etc (Buddleia, apricot, apple, peach, rosemary) waiting for me to chip/mulch them. And lot of bark from the bluegums, which makes fabulous mulch. So now there will be Eucalyptus branches and leaves as well. I like Euc, it cleans the blades nicely. And smells wonderful while you are doing it.
But none of that today, it’s all far too wet and claggy. And the weather is not conducive. Interwebs are too slow for doing iNaturalist, so I guess that makes it a shredding old records/sewing/studying day.
Wind has settled down to a steady 61km/h.
Hello
September already
OCDC said:
No damage here or for the fam in Warragul, but they had a gust of 124 overnight and lost power for a bit. I think mine may have been off for a while too because the oven was making its annoying high-pitched whine when I got up.Meanwhile second with jam and cream was enjoyed for brekkie.
Umm, second.
Peak Warming Man said:
OCDC said:*sconeNo damage here or for the fam in Warragul, but they had a gust of 124 overnight and lost power for a bit. I think mine may have been off for a while too because the oven was making its annoying high-pitched whine when I got up.Umm, second.Meanwhile second with jam and cream was enjoyed for brekkie.
OCDC said:
Peak Warming Man said:OCDC said:*sconeNo damage here or for the fam in Warragul, but they had a gust of 124 overnight and lost power for a bit. I think mine may have been off for a while too because the oven was making its annoying high-pitched whine when I got up.Umm, second.Meanwhile second with jam and cream was enjoyed for brekkie.
scone.
and another day, another half a day on hold.
Bank couldn’t help on saturday sorting out dad’s money. So now I am on hold for at least half an hour. And in the meantime, the interest rates have dropped since saturday…… grrrrr
Huh! Mr buffy just phoned me. He went in to Hamilton for an Old Farts Ambulance lunch (retired ambulance officers group) and when he got to the venue he was told they phoned this morning and cancelled it. No email or text to let Mr buffy know though. He only goes sometimes…I suspect he won’t bother trying again. He’s got to do a drug run to the pharmacy anyway, and I asked him to bring me home a doughnut from the Vietnamese French bakery.
buffy said:
Huh! Mr buffy just phoned me. He went in to Hamilton for an Old Farts Ambulance lunch (retired ambulance officers group) and when he got to the venue he was told they phoned this morning and cancelled it. No email or text to let Mr buffy know though. He only goes sometimes…I suspect he won’t bother trying again. He’s got to do a drug run to the pharmacy anyway, and I asked him to bring me home a doughnut from the Vietnamese French bakery.
That is very inconsiderate
Brindabellas said:
and another day, another half a day on hold.Bank couldn’t help on saturday sorting out dad’s money. So now I am on hold for at least half an hour. And in the meantime, the interest rates have dropped since saturday…… grrrrr
Frustrating.
https://youtu.be/k83-ag5-A-Q?si=9-qGAQAAu2pNHrd9
Jago Hazzard
Filming locations on the Underground
Saw Alien Romulus with my son yesterday for Fathers Day
I enjoyed the movie as did my son.
They fleshed out Weyland Yutani quite a bit more in this movie.
Get to see how mercenary and powerful they are.
Cymek said:
Saw Alien Romulus with my son yesterday for Fathers DayI’ve heard there are no Romulans.I enjoyed the movie as did my son.
They fleshed out Weyland Yutani quite a bit more in this movie.
Get to see how mercenary and powerful they are.
buffy said:
Huh! Mr buffy just phoned me. He went in to Hamilton for an Old Farts Ambulance lunch (retired ambulance officers group) and when he got to the venue he was told they phoned this morning and cancelled it. No email or text to let Mr buffy know though. He only goes sometimes…I suspect he won’t bother trying again. He’s got to do a drug run to the pharmacy anyway, and I asked him to bring me home a doughnut from the Vietnamese French bakery.
Bummer.
Brindabellas said:
buffy said:
Huh! Mr buffy just phoned me. He went in to Hamilton for an Old Farts Ambulance lunch (retired ambulance officers group) and when he got to the venue he was told they phoned this morning and cancelled it. No email or text to let Mr buffy know though. He only goes sometimes…I suspect he won’t bother trying again. He’s got to do a drug run to the pharmacy anyway, and I asked him to bring me home a doughnut from the Vietnamese French bakery.
That is very inconsiderate
I might give them the benefit of the doubt…our internets were extremely slow this morning, marginally better now. So perhaps there is an email flitting around in the ether or something. Maybe this was also affecting the phone network.
OCDC said:
Cymek said:Saw Alien Romulus with my son yesterday for Fathers DayI’ve heard there are no Romulans.I enjoyed the movie as did my son.
They fleshed out Weyland Yutani quite a bit more in this movie.
Get to see how mercenary and powerful they are.
No
buffy said:
Brindabellas said:Whilst not in Hamilton, my fam’s had very dodgy phones today.buffy said:I might give them the benefit of the doubt…our internets were extremely slow this morning, marginally better now. So perhaps there is an email flitting around in the ether or something. Maybe this was also affecting the phone network.Huh! Mr buffy just phoned me. He went in to Hamilton for an Old Farts Ambulance lunch (retired ambulance officers group) and when he got to the venue he was told they phoned this morning and cancelled it. No email or text to let Mr buffy know though. He only goes sometimes…I suspect he won’t bother trying again. He’s got to do a drug run to the pharmacy anyway, and I asked him to bring me home a doughnut from the Vietnamese French bakery.That is very inconsiderate
Cymek said:
OCDC said:Very disappointing. I’ll save my resources.Cymek said:NoSaw Alien Romulus with my son yesterday for Fathers DayI’ve heard there are no Romulans.I enjoyed the movie as did my son.
They fleshed out Weyland Yutani quite a bit more in this movie.
Get to see how mercenary and powerful they are.
Cymek said:
Saw Alien Romulus with my son yesterday for Fathers DayI enjoyed the movie as did my son.
They fleshed out Weyland Yutani quite a bit more in this movie.
Get to see how mercenary and powerful they are.
Cheers. Might go see.
Science is rewriting the history of horse domestication
As they spread, horses reshaped ecology, social structures and economies at a never-before-seen scale.
Perspective by William Taylor
September 1, 2024 at 7:00 a.m. EDT
Across human history, no animal has had a deeper impact on human societies than the horse. But when and how people domesticated horses have posed an ongoing scientific mystery.
Half a million years ago or more, early human ancestors hunted horses with wooden spears, the very first weapons, and used their bones for early tools. During the late Paleolithic era, as far back as 30,000 years ago or more, ancient artists chose wild horses as their muse: Horses are the most commonly depicted animal in Eurasian cave art.
Following their first domestication, horses became the foundation of herding life in the grasslands of Inner Asia, and key leaps forward in technology such as the chariot, saddle and stirrup helped make horses the primary means of locomotion for travel, communication, agriculture and warfare across much of the ancient world. With the aid of ocean voyages, these animals eventually reached the shores of every major landmass — even Antarctica, briefly.
As they spread, horses reshaped ecology, social structures and economies at a never-before-seen scale. Ultimately, only industrial mechanization supplanted their near-universal role in society.
Because of their tremendous impact in shaping our collective human story, figuring out when, why and how horses became domesticated is a key step toward understanding the world we live in now.
Doing so has proved to be surprisingly challenging. In my new book, “Hoof Beats: How Horses Shaped Human History,” I draw together new archaeological evidence that is revising what scientists like me thought we knew about this story.
A domestication hypothesis
Over the years, almost every time and place on Earth has been suggested as a possible origin point for horse domestication, from Europe tens of thousands of years ago to places such as Saudi Arabia, Anatolia, China or even the Americas.
By far the most dominant model for horse domestication, though, has been the Indo-European hypothesis, also known as the “Kurgan hypothesis.” It argues that, sometime in the fourth millennium B.C. or before, residents of the steppes of western Asia and the Black Sea known as the Yamnaya, who built large burial mounds called kurgans, hopped astride horses. The newfound mobility of these early riders, the story goes, helped catalyze huge migrations across the continent, distributing ancestral Indo-European languages and cultures across Eurasia.
But what’s the actual evidence supporting the Kurgan hypothesis for the first horse domestication? Many of the most important clues come from the bones and teeth of ancient animals, via a discipline known as archaeozoology. Over the past 20 years, archaeozoological data seemed to converge on the idea that horses were first domesticated in sites of the Botai culture in Kazakhstan, where scientists found large quantities of horse bones at sites dating to the fourth millennium B.C.
Other kinds of circumstantial evidence had already started to pile up. Archaeologists discovered evidence of what looked like fence post holes that could have been part of ancient corrals. They also found ceramic fragments with fatty horse residues that, based on isotope measurements, seem to have been deposited in the summer months, a time when milk could be collected from domestic horses.
The scientific smoking gun for early horse domestication, though, was a set of changes found on some Botai horse teeth and jawbones. Like the teeth of many modern and ancient ridden horses, the Botai horse teeth appeared to have been worn down by a bridle mouthpiece, or bit.
Together, the data pointed strongly to the idea of horse domestication in northern Kazakhstan around 3500 B.C. — not quite the Yamnaya homeland, but close enough geographically to keep the basic Kurgan hypothesis intact.
There were some aspects of the Botai story, though, that never quite lined up.
From the outset, several studies showed that the mix of horse remains found at Botai was unlike that found in most later pastoral cultures: Botai is evenly split between male and female horses, mostly of a healthy reproductive age. Killing off healthy, breeding-age animals like this on a regular basis would devastate a breeding herd. But this demographic blend is common among animals that have been hunted. Some Botai horses even have projectile points embedded in their ribs, showing they died through hunting rather than a controlled slaughter.
These unresolved loose ends loomed over a basic consensus linking the Botai culture to horse domestication.
New tools, new questions
In recent years, as archaeological and scientific tools have rapidly improved, key assumptions about the cultures of Botai, Yamnaya and the early chapters of the human-horse story have been overturned.
In 2018, nuclear genomic sequencing revealed that Botai horses were not the ancestors of domestic horses but of Przewalski’s horse, a wild relative and denizen of the steppe that has never been domesticated, at least not in recorded history.
Next, when my colleagues and I reconsidered skeletal features linked to horse riding at Botai, we saw that similar issues are also visible in ice age wild horses from North America, which had certainly never been ridden. Even though horse riding can cause recognizable changes to the teeth and bones of the jaw, we argued that the small issues seen on Botai horses can reasonably be linked to natural variation or life history.
This finding reopened the question: Was there horse transport at Botai at all?
Leaving the Kurgan hypothesis in the past
Over the past few years, trying to make sense of the archaeological record around horse domestication has become an ever more contradictory affair.
For example, in 2023, archaeologists noted that human hip and leg skeletal problems found in Yamnaya and early Eastern European burials looked like problems found in mounted riders, consistent with the Kurgan hypothesis. But such problems can also be caused by other kinds of animal transport, including the cattle carts found in Yamnaya-era sites.
So how should archaeologists make sense of these conflicting signals?
A clearer picture may be closer than we think. A detailed genomic study of early Eurasian horses, published in June in the journal Nature, shows that Yamnaya horses were not ancestors of the first clearly domestic horses, known as the DOM2 lineage. And Yamnaya horses showed no genetic evidence of close control over reproduction, such as changes linked with inbreeding.
Instead, the first DOM2 horses appear just before 2000 B.C., long after the Yamnaya migrations and just before the first burials of horses and chariots also show up in the archaeological record.
For now, all lines of evidence seem to converge on the idea that horse domestication probably took place in the Black Sea steppes, but much later than the Kurgan hypothesis requires. Instead, human control of horses took off just before the explosive spread of horses and chariots across Eurasia during the early second millennium B.C.
There’s still more to be settled, of course. In the latest study, the authors point to funny patterns in the Botai data, especially fluctuations in genetic estimates for generation time — essentially, how long it takes on average for a population of animals to produce offspring. Might these suggest that Botai people still raised those wild Przewalski’s horses in captivity, but only for meat, without a role in transportation? Perhaps. Future research will let us know for sure.
Either way, out of these conflicting signals, one consideration has become clear: The earliest chapters of the human-horse story are ready for a retelling.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2024/09/01/horses-history-domestication-asia-kurgan/?
Darren Weir looks a lot like Michael Palin? 
roughbarked said:
Darren Weir looks a lot like Michael Palin?
Ya reckon.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
Darren Weir looks a lot like Michael Palin?
Ya reckon.
:) only fools reckon.;)
buffy said:
Huh! Mr buffy just phoned me. He went in to Hamilton for an Old Farts Ambulance lunch (retired ambulance officers group) and when he got to the venue he was told they phoned this morning and cancelled it. No email or text to let Mr buffy know though. He only goes sometimes…I suspect he won’t bother trying again. He’s got to do a drug run to the pharmacy anyway, and I asked him to bring me home a doughnut from the Vietnamese French bakery.
Sounds like my school events.
The school had a do to which they invited people from the year i finished there. However, they only invited peope who’d really ‘made it’ – the lawyers and doctors (both of which groups included some of my friends from the time), the entrepreneurial multi-millionaires, etc. The presence of the peasantry was not required.
Some years later, someone from my class organised some sort of reunion event. I did not receive an invitation. This was probably due to me being so hard to contact, a my parent have only lived at the same address since 1958, and my mother’s involvement with the school lasted a mere 30+ years after i left it.
On the other hand, i wouldn’t have gone, had i been invited, so it all worked out nicely.
roughbarked said:
Darren Weir looks a lot like Michael Palin?
Maybe if M. Palin and Robin Williams had had a child together.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Darren Weir looks a lot like Michael Palin?
Maybe if M. Palin and Robin Williams had had a child together.
Yeah I can see that now you mention it. Maybe it was that which drew me to the image.
Popyrin loses to Tiafoe.
As it’s now September, and the weather forecast indicates that we’re not going to be having any further winter-like temperatures, the Norseman wood burner here has been paid off from its 2024 commission, and put ‘in Ordinary’ until a suitable future occasion arises.
captain_spalding said:
As it’s now September, and the weather forecast indicates that we’re not going to be having any further winter-like temperatures, the Norseman wood burner here has been paid off from its 2024 commission, and put ‘in Ordinary’ until a suitable future occasion arises.
What are you talking about man! It is 6 degrees at the back door, it’s raining and hailing horizontally and looking at the trees I’d say the gusts are into the 70s. Our woodheater has been going since 7.00am this morning and I am expecting it to keep going into the evening.
It looks like Winds 1 Bubblecar 0
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
As it’s now September, and the weather forecast indicates that we’re not going to be having any further winter-like temperatures, the Norseman wood burner here has been paid off from its 2024 commission, and put ‘in Ordinary’ until a suitable future occasion arises.
What are you talking about man! It is 6 degrees at the back door, it’s raining and hailing horizontally and looking at the trees I’d say the gusts are into the 70s. Our woodheater has been going since 7.00am this morning and I am expecting it to keep going into the evening.
Blimey.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
As it’s now September, and the weather forecast indicates that we’re not going to be having any further winter-like temperatures, the Norseman wood burner here has been paid off from its 2024 commission, and put ‘in Ordinary’ until a suitable future occasion arises.
What are you talking about man! It is 6 degrees at the back door, it’s raining and hailing horizontally and looking at the trees I’d say the gusts are into the 70s. Our woodheater has been going since 7.00am this morning and I am expecting it to keep going into the evening.
When did you move to the Shetland islands?
Michael V said:
Popyrin loses to Tiafoe.
I thought he was a chance, I’ll check the scores.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
As it’s now September, and the weather forecast indicates that we’re not going to be having any further winter-like temperatures, the Norseman wood burner here has been paid off from its 2024 commission, and put ‘in Ordinary’ until a suitable future occasion arises.
What are you talking about man! It is 6 degrees at the back door, it’s raining and hailing horizontally and looking at the trees I’d say the gusts are into the 70s. Our woodheater has been going since 7.00am this morning and I am expecting it to keep going into the evening.
Blimey.
And now the sun is out and the wind has dropped. We are cycling through squalls and sunshine over 30-40 minutes. The local Aboriginal people consider September/October to be Spring, and the desciption of the weather is “warmer days, weather still tempestuous”. I think they got that right…
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:What are you talking about man! It is 6 degrees at the back door, it’s raining and hailing horizontally and looking at the trees I’d say the gusts are into the 70s. Our woodheater has been going since 7.00am this morning and I am expecting it to keep going into the evening.
Blimey.
And now the sun is out and the wind has dropped. We are cycling through squalls and sunshine over 30-40 minutes. The local Aboriginal people consider September/October to be Spring, and the desciption of the weather is “warmer days, weather still tempestuous”. I think they got that right…
If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:I recognise the words but that combination makes no sense.Peak Warming Man said:If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.Blimey.And now the sun is out and the wind has dropped. We are cycling through squalls and sunshine over 30-40 minutes. The local Aboriginal people consider September/October to be Spring, and the desciption of the weather is “warmer days, weather still tempestuous”. I think they got that right…
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
As it’s now September, and the weather forecast indicates that we’re not going to be having any further winter-like temperatures, the Norseman wood burner here has been paid off from its 2024 commission, and put ‘in Ordinary’ until a suitable future occasion arises.
What are you talking about man! It is 6 degrees at the back door, it’s raining and hailing horizontally and looking at the trees I’d say the gusts are into the 70s. Our woodheater has been going since 7.00am this morning and I am expecting it to keep going into the evening.
27.3° C here.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Popyrin loses to Tiafoe.
I thought he was a chance, I’ll check the scores.
Four sets. Poppy got one.
OCDC said:
Tau.Neutrino said:buffy said:I recognise the words but that combination makes no sense.And now the sun is out and the wind has dropped. We are cycling through squalls and sunshine over 30-40 minutes. The local Aboriginal people consider September/October to be Spring, and the desciption of the weather is “warmer days, weather still tempestuous”. I think they got that right…If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.
Puffing Billy, choof-choof.
Buying oneself things.
Besides essentials such as food, medication, etc
Do you find yourself with money but don’t actually need or want anything and buying something is just spending money for the point of it.
dv said:
https://youtu.be/k83-ag5-A-Q?si=9-qGAQAAu2pNHrd9Jago Hazzard
Filming locations on the Underground
My dad worked at Ongar station back in the early 60’s.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
As it’s now September, and the weather forecast indicates that we’re not going to be having any further winter-like temperatures, the Norseman wood burner here has been paid off from its 2024 commission, and put ‘in Ordinary’ until a suitable future occasion arises.
What are you talking about man! It is 6 degrees at the back door, it’s raining and hailing horizontally and looking at the trees I’d say the gusts are into the 70s. Our woodheater has been going since 7.00am this morning and I am expecting it to keep going into the evening.
27.3° C here.
Firty free at Le Chateau ATM. Light breeze, no cloud.
Cymek said:
Buying oneself things.Besides essentials such as food, medication, etc
Do you find yourself with money but don’t actually need or want anything and buying something is just spending money for the point of it.
All the time. I’m addicted to Temu.
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
Tau.Neutrino said:If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.I recognise the words but that combination makes no sense.
Puffing Billy, choof-choof.
a turntable.
remains of one around 200m from me


Cymek said:
Buying oneself things.Besides essentials such as food, medication, etc
Do you find yourself with money but don’t actually need or want anything and buying something is just spending money for the point of it.
Ummm no.
OCDC said:
Tau.Neutrino said:buffy said:I recognise the words but that combination makes no sense.And now the sun is out and the wind has dropped. We are cycling through squalls and sunshine over 30-40 minutes. The local Aboriginal people consider September/October to be Spring, and the desciption of the weather is “warmer days, weather still tempestuous”. I think they got that right…If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.
He’s imagining Australia on a turntable.
Woodie said:
Cymek said:
Buying oneself things.Besides essentials such as food, medication, etc
Do you find yourself with money but don’t actually need or want anything and buying something is just spending money for the point of it.
All the time. I’m addicted to Temu.
checks shopping cart
Buggrit. Too slow………… My new computer desk chair is now showing as “sold out”.
Cymek said:
Buying oneself things.Besides essentials such as food, medication, etc
Do you find yourself with money but don’t actually need or want anything and buying something is just spending money for the point of it.
No.
Woodie said:
Cymek said:
Buying oneself things.Besides essentials such as food, medication, etc
Do you find yourself with money but don’t actually need or want anything and buying something is just spending money for the point of it.
All the time. I’m addicted to Temu.
LOL
another bank, another half hour on hold….screams
Michael V said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
As it’s now September, and the weather forecast indicates that we’re not going to be having any further winter-like temperatures, the Norseman wood burner here has been paid off from its 2024 commission, and put ‘in Ordinary’ until a suitable future occasion arises.
What are you talking about man! It is 6 degrees at the back door, it’s raining and hailing horizontally and looking at the trees I’d say the gusts are into the 70s. Our woodheater has been going since 7.00am this morning and I am expecting it to keep going into the evening.
27.3° C here.
Its 12.6C – but feels like 1.4C VERY windy!! 56km wind gusts
Brindabellas said:
another bank, another half hour on hold….screams
Job has nothing on you.
Brindabellas said:
another bank, another half hour on hold….screams
Heck!
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Cymek said:
Buying oneself things.Besides essentials such as food, medication, etc
Do you find yourself with money but don’t actually need or want anything and buying something is just spending money for the point of it.
All the time. I’m addicted to Temu.
checks shopping cart
Buggrit. Too slow………… My new computer desk chair is now showing as “sold out”.
Found a cheaper one. clicks “buy now” immediately. Not missin’ out this time.
OCDC said:
Tau.Neutrino said:buffy said:I recognise the words but that combination makes no sense.And now the sun is out and the wind has dropped. We are cycling through squalls and sunshine over 30-40 minutes. The local Aboriginal people consider September/October to be Spring, and the desciption of the weather is “warmer days, weather still tempestuous”. I think they got that right…If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.
Their my best words, I chose them from the garden where I grow them in alphabetical order.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:All the time. I’m addicted to Temu.
checks shopping cart
Buggrit. Too slow………… My new computer desk chair is now showing as “sold out”.
Found a cheaper one. clicks “buy now” immediately. Not missin’ out this time.
Done. 😁
Plus a cuppla other tantalising tidbits. 😁
Tau.Neutrino said:
OCDC said:
Tau.Neutrino said:If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.I recognise the words but that combination makes no sense.
Their my best words, I chose them from the garden where I grow them in alphabetical order.
Alphabets, I have some of the best alphabets in the world.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
OCDC said:
I recognise the words but that combination makes no sense.
Their my best words, I chose them from the garden where I grow them in alphabetical order.
Alphabets, I have some of the best alphabets in the world.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Their my best words, I chose them from the garden where I grow them in alphabetical order.
Alphabets, I have some of the best alphabets in the world.
Typewriters too, I have a collection of typewriters.
Very well written ones.
Lots of letters.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:All the time. I’m addicted to Temu.
checks shopping cart
Buggrit. Too slow………… My new computer desk chair is now showing as “sold out”.
Found a cheaper one. clicks “buy now” immediately. Not missin’ out this time.
Bar-steward. I click “View More”. Again and again…
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:checks shopping cart
Buggrit. Too slow………… My new computer desk chair is now showing as “sold out”.
Found a cheaper one. clicks “buy now” immediately. Not missin’ out this time.
Done. 😁
Plus a cuppla other tantalising tidbits. 😁
oooooo….. and adds some cushions as well.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:checks shopping cart
Buggrit. Too slow………… My new computer desk chair is now showing as “sold out”.
Found a cheaper one. clicks “buy now” immediately. Not missin’ out this time.
Done. 😁
Plus a cuppla other tantalising tidbits. 😁
As long as it doesn’t end up in the dam.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Their my best words, I chose them from the garden where I grow them in alphabetical order.
Alphabets, I have some of the best alphabets in the world.
Typewriters too, I have a collection of typewriters.
Want a few more?
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:Found a cheaper one. clicks “buy now” immediately. Not missin’ out this time.
Done. 😁
Plus a cuppla other tantalising tidbits. 😁
oooooo….. and adds some cushions as well.
Xi Jinping should give you a medal.

Rowing Tasmania Inc
·
Rowing over the finish line
Finish line at Barrington. Those line numbers at finish line -
You row UNDER them.
sarahs mum said:
Rowing Tasmania Inc ·
Rowing over the finish line
Finish line at Barrington. Those line numbers at finish line -
You row UNDER them.
Wet Wet Wet.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Alphabets, I have some of the best alphabets in the world.
Typewriters too, I have a collection of typewriters.Very well written ones.
Lots of letters.
I collect letters and put them in books.
I arranged all the letters in my favourite book myself .
It’s one of the greatest books in the world.
Enough madness.
Some work to do.
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:Found a cheaper one. clicks “buy now” immediately. Not missin’ out this time.
Done. 😁
Plus a cuppla other tantalising tidbits. 😁
As long as it doesn’t end up in the dam.
The chair I’m sittin’ on ATM, is a bit….. well……… threadbare.
It’s gettin’ chucked in the dam.

Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:Done. 😁
Plus a cuppla other tantalising tidbits. 😁
oooooo….. and adds some cushions as well.
Xi Jinping should give you a medal.
I, alone, am keeping the Chinese economy, and Australia Post in business.
Woodie said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:oooooo….. and adds some cushions as well.
Xi Jinping should give you a medal.
I, alone, am keeping the Chinese economy, and Australia Post in business.
In the meantime, they tell me that my last Temu order is awaiting my collection at the post office.
Woodie said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:oooooo….. and adds some cushions as well.
Xi Jinping should give you a medal.
I, alone, am keeping the Chinese economy, and Australia Post in business.
Order Winnie the Pooh merchandise and see what happens
Cymek said:
Woodie said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Xi Jinping should give you a medal.
I, alone, am keeping the Chinese economy, and Australia Post in business.
Order Winnie the Pooh merchandise and see what happens
PHWOOAR!! You could go buy buy buy click crazy with that one. 😁 HOLD ME BACK!!! HOLD ME BACK!!
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Xi Jinping should give you a medal.
I, alone, am keeping the Chinese economy, and Australia Post in business.
In the meantime, they tell me that my last Temu order is awaiting my collection at the post office.
Surprise!
It’s COVID Max Pro 7.
Kingy said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
I, alone, am keeping the Chinese economy, and Australia Post in business.
In the meantime, they tell me that my last Temu order is awaiting my collection at the post office.
Surprise!
It’s COVID Max Pro 7.
LabLeekLOLz
If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.
Might be cheaper just to put on a cardigan
dv said:
If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.
Might be cheaper just to put on a cardigan
not everyone has a cardi.
i’ve mowed and whippersnippered and chain sawed today.
ChrispenEvan said:
dv said:If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.
Might be cheaper just to put on a cardigan
not everyone has a cardi.
try meth
ChrispenEvan said:
dv said:If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.
Might be cheaper just to put on a cardigan
not everyone has a cardi.
Brindabellas said:
ChrispenEvan said:
dv said:If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.
Might be cheaper just to put on a cardigan
not everyone has a cardi.
I have several woollen cardis and a Cardigan Corgi – all keep me warm
don’t fill them with helium.

ChrispenEvan said:
Brindabellas said:
ChrispenEvan said:not everyone has a cardi.
I have several woollen cardis and a Cardigan Corgi – all keep me warmdon’t fill them with helium.
Lucky it was inside and the ceiling is carpeted
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:Done. 😁
Plus a cuppla other tantalising tidbits. 😁
As long as it doesn’t end up in the dam.
The chair I’m sittin’ on ATM, is a bit….. well……… threadbare.
It’s gettin’ chucked in the dam.
today I discovered I am a germaphobe, because that picture made me want to throw up .. don’t throw it in the dam, please think of the living creatures in there
the doctorb was not going to let me cut my own patches, so now I have some gel which has to be inconveniently applied every evening…
I hat everything
including hatting
Hungry?
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/xxl-wagyu-ms9-sandwich-grilled-in-my-cosy-shelter-asmr-outdoor-cooking/vi-AA1ovm89?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=6081b3cc6d84445eb901da4ec178cef4&ei=84
I remember the last time when Bubblecar tried to fix his power problems he shut down the whole eastern seaboard.
Peak Warming Man said:
I remember the last time when Bubblecar tried to fix his power problems he shut down the whole eastern seaboard.
The panic set in as rumours it was a high altitude nuke detonation to fry our electronics as prelude to an invasion
Cymek said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Brindabellas said:I have several woollen cardis and a Cardigan Corgi – all keep me warm
don’t fill them with helium.
Lucky it was inside and the ceiling is carpeted
Peak Warming Man said:
I remember the last time when Bubblecar tried to fix his power problems he shut down the whole eastern seaboard.
reminds me of a funny incident in Darwin. the place I worked, as a printer/paste up, was run by a husband and wife with the wife’s dad helping out. one of the best places I have worked btw. Being Darwin we had numerous power outages due to storms over the wet season. So we had a rather large 3 phase generator out the back powered by a 6 cyl diesel engine. This could run everything in the business. The switchboard for this was about 3m from where I sat. Anyway, the main change over switch appeared to have failed. The dad thought he would replace it. i mean how hard can it be to change a switch? so he changed it for a new one. the fun started when he turned the power back on. It was akin to a wet season lightning storm. Plus lots of smoke. The dad was frozen in horror. Me being a totally switched on type of guy grabbed a fire extinguisher which luckily was right in from to me. first blast got the old man in the ear and woke him from his reverie. I then aimed at the switchboard. I think they got a sparky to fix the mess.

OK…kids must be home from school and everyone is pushing and shoving on the available interwebs again. We are back to waiting 30 seconds or more for a post to load. It wasn’t too bad (but it wasn’t good) during the day.
sarahs mum said:
At least you’ve still got internet.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
At least you’ve still got internet.
I quite love my satellite broadband. in someways being remote pays.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
At least you’ve still got internet.
I quite love my satellite broadband. in someways being remote pays.
I do still need electrickery to run and I have been one of the lucky ones these last few days.


Coming into to Melbourne…
Couldn’t pay me to go out in that.
I have spent most of the day either on hold or waiting for banks to call me back. I a beyond frustrated. All I want to do is pay for dad’s bond for his aged care home from the settlement money from his house. And the delay is costing him money.
Brindabellas said:
I have spent most of the day either on hold or waiting for banks to call me back. I a beyond frustrated. All I want to do is pay for dad’s bond for his aged care home from the settlement money from his house. And the delay is costing him money.
Ring them in the morning and say that If you can’t get some service there are other banks.
Brindabellas said:
I have spent most of the day either on hold or waiting for banks to call me back. I a beyond frustrated. All I want to do is pay for dad’s bond for his aged care home from the settlement money from his house. And the delay is costing him money.
The RAD? Do you already have full access/PofA to his bank accounts?
Hello
Brindabellas said:
I have spent most of the day either on hold or waiting for banks to call me back. I a beyond frustrated. All I want to do is pay for dad’s bond for his aged care home from the settlement money from his house. And the delay is costing him money.
Not cool
sarahs mum said:
Coming into to Melbourne…Couldn’t pay me to go out in that.
Then you probably shouldn’t wtach this video:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2024/sep/02/the-power-went-out-and-we-were-plunged-into-darkness-big-weather-across-the-nation
in other news there is a burst water main in the CBD and Myers and the cat and fiddle are drowning.
Brindabellas said:
I have spent most of the day either on hold or waiting for banks to call me back. I a beyond frustrated. All I want to do is pay for dad’s bond for his aged care home from the settlement money from his house. And the delay is costing him money.
gosh, the way you carry on, anyone would think that it’s your dad’s money, and not the bank’s!
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Coming into to Melbourne…Couldn’t pay me to go out in that.
Then you probably shouldn’t wtach this video:
na. not even that ship to the orkneys unless the forecastseems fair.
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Coming into to Melbourne…Couldn’t pay me to go out in that.
Then you probably shouldn’t wtach this video:
na. not even that ship to the orkneys unless the forecastseems fair.
I remember lying on my back in my bunk. I was imagining I was riding a horse. because I have never been seasick on a horse.
captain_spalding said:
Brindabellas said:
I have spent most of the day either on hold or waiting for banks to call me back. I a beyond frustrated. All I want to do is pay for dad’s bond for his aged care home from the settlement money from his house. And the delay is costing him money.
gosh, the way you carry on, anyone would think that it’s your dad’s money, and not the bank’s!
Hehe.
Brindabellas said:
I have spent most of the day either on hold or waiting for banks to call me back. I a beyond frustrated. All I want to do is pay for dad’s bond for his aged care home from the settlement money from his house. And the delay is costing him money.
Seems odd that they are frustrating you.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:Then you probably shouldn’t wtach this video:
na. not even that ship to the orkneys unless the forecastseems fair.
I remember lying on my back in my bunk. I was imagining I was riding a horse. because I have never been seasick on a horse.
I can sympathise.
Me and Horatio Nelson don’t have all that much in common, except that we’re both martyrs to seasickness.
He’d be seasick for a while, every time he went to sea, and so would i.
It really is the most dreadful feeling, and it always astonished me that it would, eventually, go away. Until that happened, it was business as usual, interspersed with dry heaving.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:Then you probably shouldn’t wtach this video:
na. not even that ship to the orkneys unless the forecastseems fair.
I remember lying on my back in my bunk. I was imagining I was riding a horse. because I have never been seasick on a horse.
Now there’s one way.
I did that trip on new years eve. 5 to 8m swells. Much fun. The decks were awash with pink stuff. If I tries to lay on the bunk it was like I was standing end on end.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:na. not even that ship to the orkneys unless the forecastseems fair.
I remember lying on my back in my bunk. I was imagining I was riding a horse. because I have never been seasick on a horse.
I can sympathise.
Me and Horatio Nelson don’t have all that much in common, except that we’re both martyrs to seasickness.
He’d be seasick for a while, every time he went to sea, and so would i.
It really is the most dreadful feeling, and it always astonished me that it would, eventually, go away. Until that happened, it was business as usual, interspersed with dry heaving.
I’ve been there on a small boat parked at the jetty on a dead calm sea. Didn’t have to go anywhere before I wanted to get off.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:I remember lying on my back in my bunk. I was imagining I was riding a horse. because I have never been seasick on a horse.
Now there’s one way.
I did that trip on new years eve. 5 to 8m swells. Much fun. The decks were awash with pink stuff. If I tries to lay on the bunk it was like I was standing end on end.
long, long ago, in my very early days, i was drafted to HMAS Sydney (the old aircraft carrier) when it was the ‘training ship’, as part of my intake’s introduction/training.
It was the only time in my experience that there was an option to be issued with a hammock, rather than occupy a bunk. Of course, i had to try it.
And it was fabulous! To a large extent, you stayed steady , gyroscope-fashion, while the ship swung around you. And it was unbelievably snug.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:I remember lying on my back in my bunk. I was imagining I was riding a horse. because I have never been seasick on a horse.
I can sympathise.
Me and Horatio Nelson don’t have all that much in common, except that we’re both martyrs to seasickness.
He’d be seasick for a while, every time he went to sea, and so would i.
It really is the most dreadful feeling, and it always astonished me that it would, eventually, go away. Until that happened, it was business as usual, interspersed with dry heaving.
I’ve been there on a small boat parked at the jetty on a dead calm sea. Didn’t have to go anywhere before I wanted to get off.
That sounds like an ‘Attack’ class patrol boat. you could get seasick on those, tied up to the wharf in Sydney Harbour, if the wind and surface chop came from the right direction.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:I remember lying on my back in my bunk. I was imagining I was riding a horse. because I have never been seasick on a horse.
Now there’s one way.
I did that trip on new years eve. 5 to 8m swells. Much fun. The decks were awash with pink stuff. If I tries to lay on the bunk it was like I was standing end on end.
long, long ago, in my very early days, i was drafted to HMAS Sydney (the old aircraft carrier) when it was the ‘training ship’, as part of my intake’s introduction/training.
It was the only time in my experience that there was an option to be issued with a hammock, rather than occupy a bunk. Of course, i had to try it.
And it was fabulous! To a large extent, you stayed steady , gyroscope-fashion, while the ship swung around you. And it was unbelievably snug.
Hammocks are great.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:I can sympathise.
Me and Horatio Nelson don’t have all that much in common, except that we’re both martyrs to seasickness.
He’d be seasick for a while, every time he went to sea, and so would i.
It really is the most dreadful feeling, and it always astonished me that it would, eventually, go away. Until that happened, it was business as usual, interspersed with dry heaving.
I’ve been there on a small boat parked at the jetty on a dead calm sea. Didn’t have to go anywhere before I wanted to get off.
That sounds like an ‘Attack’ class patrol boat. you could get seasick on those, tied up to the wharf in Sydney Harbour, if the wind and surface chop came from the right direction.
It is the only time I’ve ever been seasick.
I got seasick at Circular Quay. Before I boarded a ferry…
roughbarked said:
Brindabellas said:
I have spent most of the day either on hold or waiting for banks to call me back. I a beyond frustrated. All I want to do is pay for dad’s bond for his aged care home from the settlement money from his house. And the delay is costing him money.
Seems odd that they are frustrating you.
If she was going to be putting that money into an investment schedule the call back would be prompt.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
Brindabellas said:
I have spent most of the day either on hold or waiting for banks to call me back. I a beyond frustrated. All I want to do is pay for dad’s bond for his aged care home from the settlement money from his house. And the delay is costing him money.
Seems odd that they are frustrating you.
If she was going to be putting that money into an investment schedule the call back would be prompt.
Yes. Maybe they just don’t want to let the money go.
Family have their power back. One off for twelve hours, other for fifteen.
I’m grateful my appointment halfway across the city is tomorrow and wasn’t today.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:I remember lying on my back in my bunk. I was imagining I was riding a horse. because I have never been seasick on a horse.
I can sympathise.
Me and Horatio Nelson don’t have all that much in common, except that we’re both martyrs to seasickness.
He’d be seasick for a while, every time he went to sea, and so would i.
It really is the most dreadful feeling, and it always astonished me that it would, eventually, go away. Until that happened, it was business as usual, interspersed with dry heaving.
I’ve been there on a small boat parked at the jetty on a dead calm sea. Didn’t have to go anywhere before I wanted to get off.
Brett tried to lure me onto his sail boat while moored.. so not interested.
wind powered micro grids would have completely owned this
i’m back, got bread, got cornflakes, you master car can stop worrying about what i’m going to eat for breakfast in the morning, got bacon too, some pig, salted pig, sliced, dead thinly sliced salted pig, hope i’ve conveyed that clearly, there’s people that think very literally out there, blessed that way, so sometimes it’s necessary to add details that ordinary folk may find unnecessary because they can and do reliable assume stuff, now I don’t necessarily mean anyone may assume i’d have thinly sliced salted living pig, there are problems with that idea, practical problems applied to the real world, the real world of actual things, including what is likely possible, but anyway this paragraph is getting long, quite long, unnecessarily long, it’s uninteresting also, i’m having trouble maintaining enough interest to keep writing it, so it’d be even harder perhaps for a reader not responsible for assembling the nonsense, but that’s the way with alphabet sometimes, gets arranged into words and sentences with not much content helpful to anyone, you could waste part of your life reading it, fortunately i’ve put a lot of commas in, spacers, so a reader might take a breath regularly, not go blue and pass out or worse, anyway I feel a full stop approaching, not far away now, just ahead, yeah about not quite now but soon would be good, and look at it in a moment what a lovely thing, a modest thing announcing the end of a paragraph.
transition said:
i’m back, got bread, got cornflakes, you master car can stop worrying about what i’m going to eat for breakfast in the morning, got bacon too, some pig, salted pig, sliced, dead thinly sliced salted pig, hope i’ve conveyed that clearly, there’s people that think very literally out there, blessed that way, so sometimes it’s necessary to add details that ordinary folk may find unnecessary because they can and do reliable assume stuff, now I don’t necessarily mean anyone may assume i’d have thinly sliced salted living pig, there are problems with that idea, practical problems applied to the real world, the real world of actual things, including what is likely possible, but anyway this paragraph is getting long, quite long, unnecessarily long, it’s uninteresting also, i’m having trouble maintaining enough interest to keep writing it, so it’d be even harder perhaps for a reader not responsible for assembling the nonsense, but that’s the way with alphabet sometimes, gets arranged into words and sentences with not much content helpful to anyone, you could waste part of your life reading it, fortunately i’ve put a lot of commas in, spacers, so a reader might take a breath regularly, not go blue and pass out or worse, anyway I feel a full stop approaching, not far away now, just ahead, yeah about not quite now but soon would be good, and look at it in a moment what a lovely thing, a modest thing announcing the end of a paragraph.
Now that exhausted me.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
i’m back, got bread, got cornflakes, you master car can stop worrying about what i’m going to eat for breakfast in the morning, got bacon too, some pig, salted pig, sliced, dead thinly sliced salted pig, hope i’ve conveyed that clearly, there’s people that think very literally out there, blessed that way, so sometimes it’s necessary to add details that ordinary folk may find unnecessary because they can and do reliable assume stuff, now I don’t necessarily mean anyone may assume i’d have thinly sliced salted living pig, there are problems with that idea, practical problems applied to the real world, the real world of actual things, including what is likely possible, but anyway this paragraph is getting long, quite long, unnecessarily long, it’s uninteresting also, i’m having trouble maintaining enough interest to keep writing it, so it’d be even harder perhaps for a reader not responsible for assembling the nonsense, but that’s the way with alphabet sometimes, gets arranged into words and sentences with not much content helpful to anyone, you could waste part of your life reading it, fortunately i’ve put a lot of commas in, spacers, so a reader might take a breath regularly, not go blue and pass out or worse, anyway I feel a full stop approaching, not far away now, just ahead, yeah about not quite now but soon would be good, and look at it in a moment what a lovely thing, a modest thing announcing the end of a paragraph.Now that exhausted me.
you should sleep well
OCDC said:
Family have their power back. One off for twelve hours, other for fifteen.
Rather surprisingly we haven’t need the generator this time. But Mr buffy just received an email to tell us that our internet has been switched to the 4G network and they expect our wireless NBN to be back by 4.00pm tomorrow. It’s been painfully obvious all day that we’ve been running on the 4G…it’s not an uncommon phenomenon here.
transition said:
i’m back, got bread, got cornflakes, you master car can stop worrying about what i’m going to eat for breakfast in the morning, got bacon too, some pig, salted pig, sliced, dead thinly sliced salted pig, hope i’ve conveyed that clearly, there’s people that think very literally out there, blessed that way, so sometimes it’s necessary to add details that ordinary folk may find unnecessary because they can and do reliable assume stuff, now I don’t necessarily mean anyone may assume i’d have thinly sliced salted living pig, there are problems with that idea, practical problems applied to the real world, the real world of actual things, including what is likely possible, but anyway this paragraph is getting long, quite long, unnecessarily long, it’s uninteresting also, i’m having trouble maintaining enough interest to keep writing it, so it’d be even harder perhaps for a reader not responsible for assembling the nonsense, but that’s the way with alphabet sometimes, gets arranged into words and sentences with not much content helpful to anyone, you could waste part of your life reading it, fortunately i’ve put a lot of commas in, spacers, so a reader might take a breath regularly, not go blue and pass out or worse, anyway I feel a full stop approaching, not far away now, just ahead, yeah about not quite now but soon would be good, and look at it in a moment what a lovely thing, a modest thing announcing the end of a paragraph.
Praise the lord.
Perth taking the start of Spring seriously, top of 25 today.
I don’t know whether old Citroëns are good cars but it does make me smile to see them on the road. They look so cheery.
dv said:
I don’t know whether old Citroëns are good cars but it does make me smile to see them on the road. They look so cheery.
Citroen DS was a car ahead of its time, in many ways.
My dad, whose primary professions was ‘mechanic’, admiredthem. He said that working on them was a pleasure, as everything ‘just made sense’.
dinner will be bacon and eggs on bakery bread, toasted raw toast, browned under the grill, the oven grill
bacon spitting nasty at the lady, it’s angry! she says
Cymek said:
Buying oneself things.Besides essentials such as food, medication, etc
Do you find yourself with money but don’t actually need or want anything and buying something is just spending money for the point of it.
No
ChrispenEvan said:
dv said:If we turn Australia around on a large train track we can enjoy hotter temperatures.
Might be cheaper just to put on a cardigan
not everyone has a cardi.
It would be cheaper to send everyone a cardigan than to rotate Australia on a rail.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:na. not even that ship to the orkneys unless the forecastseems fair.
I remember lying on my back in my bunk. I was imagining I was riding a horse. because I have never been seasick on a horse.
I can sympathise.
Me and Horatio Nelson don’t have all that much in common, except that we’re both martyrs to seasickness.
He’d be seasick for a while, every time he went to sea, and so would i.
It really is the most dreadful feeling, and it always astonished me that it would, eventually, go away. Until that happened, it was business as usual, interspersed with dry heaving.
I travelled from Holyhead to Dublin by ferry on a Friday night a long time ago, it was very very rough in more ways than one.
It was fully of Paddys travelling home for the weekend and they had started early.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:I remember lying on my back in my bunk. I was imagining I was riding a horse. because I have never been seasick on a horse.
I can sympathise.
Me and Horatio Nelson don’t have all that much in common, except that we’re both martyrs to seasickness.
He’d be seasick for a while, every time he went to sea, and so would i.
It really is the most dreadful feeling, and it always astonished me that it would, eventually, go away. Until that happened, it was business as usual, interspersed with dry heaving.
I travelled from Holyhead to Dublin by ferry on a Friday night a long time ago, it was very very rough in more ways than one.
It was fully of Paddys travelling home for the weekend and they had started early.
The fish did well that night.
dv said:
Perth taking the start of Spring seriously, top of 25 today.
It was loverly. I was just sitting outside having cheese & crackers in the warm afternoon sun.
party_pants said:
dv said:
Perth taking the start of Spring seriously, top of 25 today.
It was loverly. I was just sitting outside having cheese & crackers in the warm afternoon sun.
Even got my summer hat out and put it on.
couple today, good waves, then went around otherside across the bay and ospreys visited


party_pants said:
dv said:
Perth taking the start of Spring seriously, top of 25 today.
It was loverly. I was just sitting outside having cheese & crackers in the warm afternoon sun.
Yeah it’s great, as long as the nurse doesn’t leave you there too long.

Launceston gorge.
sarahs mum said:
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Launceston gorge.
Lovely spot that.
Power was out here for over five hours, just been restored.
Remarkable that it stayed on during last night’s savage gales, and waited until this afternoon’s milder conditions before failing.
transition said:
couple today, good waves, then went around otherside across the bay and ospreys visited
Lovely snaps.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
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Launceston gorge.
Lovely spot that.
for white water rafting.
sarahs mum said:
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Launceston gorge.
Spectacular. I’ll see what our little river is doing tomorrow.
Bubblecar said:
Power was out here for over five hours, just been restored.Remarkable that it stayed on during last night’s savage gales, and waited until this afternoon’s milder conditions before failing.
Perhaps it had to be cut off, to permit major repairs to be made?
Bubblecar said:
Power was out here for over five hours, just been restored.Remarkable that it stayed on during last night’s savage gales, and waited until this afternoon’s milder conditions before failing.
I thought you might have disappeared due to that.

captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Power was out here for over five hours, just been restored.Remarkable that it stayed on during last night’s savage gales, and waited until this afternoon’s milder conditions before failing.
Perhaps it had to be cut off, to permit major repairs to be made?
Dunno. Or maybe some tree was severely weakened last night but managed to stay up until this afternoon before collapsing on a line.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Power was out here for over five hours, just been restored.Remarkable that it stayed on during last night’s savage gales, and waited until this afternoon’s milder conditions before failing.
I thought you might have disappeared due to that.
Ha, that’s good to see.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
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Launceston gorge.
Lovely spot that.
looks a bit damp

party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
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Launceston gorge.
Lovely spot that.
looks a bit damp
It’s very picturesque. Only a few kilometres from Launnie’s city centre.
Bubblecar said:
Power was out here for over five hours, just been restored.Remarkable that it stayed on during last night’s savage gales, and waited until this afternoon’s milder conditions before failing.
I thought they were all on strike. Or did the union boss lose his power too?
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Power was out here for over five hours, just been restored.Remarkable that it stayed on during last night’s savage gales, and waited until this afternoon’s milder conditions before failing.
I thought they were all on strike. Or did the union boss lose his power too?

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees at the back door, just starting to get light. The wind has dropped to practically nothing. We are forecast a partly cloudy 16 degrees today.
Bakery Breakfast and archery today. Our internets are working quite fast at the moment, but I may be the only person in town using the network at the moment.
Morning punters and correctors, the day is set fair although rather chilly.
11 deg C and 99% rel hum at 5 am in the Westralian capital
Should be a reasonably nice day this end, heading for 14, only 10% chance of rain, not very windy.
I’ll by wandering up to the river this morning to see how swollen it is and take some snaps.
Bubblecar said:
Should be a reasonably nice day this end, heading for 14, only 10% chance of rain, not very windy.I’ll by wandering up to the river this morning to see how swollen it is and take some snaps.
Roger.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Should be a reasonably nice day this end, heading for 14, only 10% chance of rain, not very windy.I’ll by wandering up to the river this morning to see how swollen it is and take some snaps.
Roger.
Pass.
My computer tells me that the Instagram app has installed itself without even asking.
That’s just rude.
The Rev Dodgson said:
My computer tells me that the Instagram app has installed itself without even asking.
That’s just rude.
sorry we’ve never heard of Big Computer Companies bundling undesired software together with their systems to be anticompetitive and trigger antitrust lawsuits, never, ever
The Rev Dodgson said:
My computer tells me that the Instagram app has installed itself without even asking.That’s just rude.
your machine is on Zuckerberg’s team now
Close To Darwin
The Rev Dodgson said:
My computer tells me that the Instagram app has installed itself without even asking.That’s just rude.
Do we have a ‘Zuckerberg Hate Thread’?
SCIENCE said:
Close To Darwin
people have fished off that crossing for years.
Brindabellas… Is it the Aged Care RAD that you are trying to pay? Have you full access/PofA for your dad’s bank accounts?
Your experience sounds a lot harder than it should be.
ChrispenEvan said:
SCIENCE said:
Close To Darwin
people have fished off that crossing for years.
40 years or 40000 years
SCIENCE said:
ChrispenEvan said:
SCIENCE said:
Close To Darwin
people have fished off that crossing for years.
40 years or 40000 years
I was there in the late 70s to early 80s.
The East Alligator River was first crossed at the current location in the 1956 with work starting on upgrading the rock bar to a trafficable ford in 1957. The present ford was built in 1960 and widened in 1979, over the original ford.
The crossing is named after Paddy Cahill as he used the crossing to access his dairy lease at Oenpelli (issued in 1906).
Off I go then.
Best snappy phone: check
Clean hanky: check
Witty Rejoinder said:
Brindabellas… Is it the Aged Care RAD that you are trying to pay? Have you full access/PofA for your dad’s bank accounts?Your experience sounds a lot harder than it should be.
Indeed.
The Rev Dodgson said:
My computer tells me that the Instagram app has installed itself without even asking.That’s just rude.
Like being raped.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
My computer tells me that the Instagram app has installed itself without even asking.That’s just rude.
Like being raped.
not quite the same. plus easy to delete with no real lasting harm.
ChrispenEvan said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
My computer tells me that the Instagram app has installed itself without even asking.That’s just rude.
Like being raped.
not quite the same. plus easy to delete with no real lasting harm.
Yeah. Can leave no trace of the event.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
My computer tells me that the Instagram app has installed itself without even asking.That’s just rude.
Like being raped.
Not funny.
She went four days undisovered, though she was dead
Dead at her desk four days.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
My computer tells me that the Instagram app has installed itself without even asking.That’s just rude.
Like being raped.
probably the most inappropriate and damaging comment ever. ffs dude, be better
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
My computer tells me that the Instagram app has installed itself without even asking.
That’s just rude.
Like being raped.
probably the most inappropriate and damaging comment ever. ffs dude, be better
not all Meta
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
My computer tells me that the Instagram app has installed itself without even asking.That’s just rude.
Like being raped.
probably the most inappropriate and damaging comment ever. ffs dude, be better
Sorry.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
Like being raped.
probably the most inappropriate and damaging comment ever. ffs dude, be better
Sorry.
So spreading coding data all over someone’s disk is incomparable with ¿¡…
NASA Discovers Third Global Energy Field – As Fundamental as Earth’s Gravity and Magnetic Fields
https://scitechdaily.com/nasa-discovers-third-global-energy-field-as-fundamental-as-earths-gravity-and-magnetic-fields/
Witty Rejoinder said:
NASA Discovers Third Global Energy Field – As Fundamental as Earth’s Gravity and Magnetic Fieldshttps://scitechdaily.com/nasa-discovers-third-global-energy-field-as-fundamental-as-earths-gravity-and-magnetic-fields/
QI, but I’m not convinced that it is “as fundamental as Earth’s gravity and magnetic fields”.
Whatever that means.
Witty Rejoinder said:
NASA Discovers Third Global Energy Field – As Fundamental as Earth’s Gravity and Magnetic Fieldshttps://scitechdaily.com/nasa-discovers-third-global-energy-field-as-fundamental-as-earths-gravity-and-magnetic-fields/
They know not much about it.
BACK after a pleasant enough stroll, but the river’s quite disappointing after all that hectic weather.
A bit of flooding and spreading on the western side of the bridge but I’ve seen it far more extensive than that, on both sides.
Anyway I’ll upload some snaps.
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
NASA Discovers Third Global Energy Field – As Fundamental as Earth’s Gravity and Magnetic Fieldshttps://scitechdaily.com/nasa-discovers-third-global-energy-field-as-fundamental-as-earths-gravity-and-magnetic-fields/
They know not much about it.
They have surmised much about it before they actually knew it was there.
Bubblecar said:
BACK after a pleasant enough stroll, but the river’s quite disappointing after all that hectic weather.A bit of flooding and spreading on the western side of the bridge but I’ve seen it far more extensive than that, on both sides.
Anyway I’ll upload some snaps.
Have you had a lot of rain?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK after a pleasant enough stroll, but the river’s quite disappointing after all that hectic weather.A bit of flooding and spreading on the western side of the bridge but I’ve seen it far more extensive than that, on both sides.
Anyway I’ll upload some snaps.
Have you had a lot of rain?
The whole island has had much rain, lot of flooding in various areas.
roughbarked said:
She went four days undisovered, though she was deadDead at her desk four days.
Some people will do anything to get out of going to meetings.
More than a dozen bushwalkers rescued from kunanyi/Mt Wellington during severe weather.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-03/tas-bushwalkers-rescued-from-kunanyi-mt-wellington/104302788
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK after a pleasant enough stroll, but the river’s quite disappointing after all that hectic weather.A bit of flooding and spreading on the western side of the bridge but I’ve seen it far more extensive than that, on both sides.
Anyway I’ll upload some snaps.
Have you had a lot of rain?
The whole island has had much rain, lot of flooding in various areas.
Roger.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
She went four days undisovered, though she was deadDead at her desk four days.
Some people will do anything to get out of going to meetings.
I think it too sad to trivialise it.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/reverse-sear-tomahawk-ribeye-steak/vi-BB1nCfxR?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=aa31a879a1154aeeacd36298be3ab65a&ei=86
Good ol’ boy cooking steak, I’d give it another 10 minutes on the flame to be al dentay.
ChrispenEvan said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
She went four days undisovered, though she was deadDead at her desk four days.
Some people will do anything to get out of going to meetings.
I think it too sad to trivialise it.
Definitely very sad, but it’s becoming very difficult to be at all shocked by any news that comes from America these days.
The relentless stream of tales of abuse, inequality, corruption, radicalism, indictrination, cruelty, and senseless violence, among other things, begins to render one rather callous.
captain_spalding said:
ChrispenEvan said:
captain_spalding said:Some people will do anything to get out of going to meetings.
I think it too sad to trivialise it.
Definitely very sad, but it’s becoming very difficult to be at all shocked by any news that comes from America these days.
The relentless stream of tales of abuse, inequality, corruption, radicalism, indictrination, cruelty, and senseless violence, among other things, begins to render one rather callous.
I’v got one on my hand.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
ChrispenEvan said:I think it too sad to trivialise it.
Definitely very sad, but it’s becoming very difficult to be at all shocked by any news that comes from America these days.
The relentless stream of tales of abuse, inequality, corruption, radicalism, indictrination, cruelty, and senseless violence, among other things, begins to render one rather callous.
I’v got one on my hand.
steady on
Peak Warming Man said:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/reverse-sear-tomahawk-ribeye-steak/vi-BB1nCfxR?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=aa31a879a1154aeeacd36298be3ab65a&ei=86Good ol’ boy cooking steak, I’d give it another 10 minutes on the flame to be al dentay.
It may be just a bit more rare than i’d like, but…another 10 minutes?!
That would simply disrespecting whatever beast provided that meat.
captain_spalding said:
ChrispenEvan said:
captain_spalding said:Some people will do anything to get out of going to meetings.
I think it too sad to trivialise it.
Definitely very sad, but it’s becoming very difficult to be at all shocked by any news that comes from America these days.
The relentless stream of tales of abuse, inequality, corruption, radicalism, indictrination, cruelty, and senseless violence, among other things, begins to render one rather callous.
similar stories come out of Africa, the middle east, India, you cant blame America for the human condition
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Definitely very sad, but it’s becoming very difficult to be at all shocked by any news that comes from America these days.
The relentless stream of tales of abuse, inequality, corruption, radicalism, indictrination, cruelty, and senseless violence, among other things, begins to render one rather callous.
I’v got one on my hand.
steady on
don’t know about all that but honestly people do die and sad or glad it’s part of life, at least when you carc it at in person present work you’re doing something you love
Not much sign of recent heavy weather events in these peaceful snaps, although there is a bit of flooding over the southwest bank and some wind damage here and there.











captain_spalding said:
ChrispenEvan said:
captain_spalding said:Some people will do anything to get out of going to meetings.
I think it too sad to trivialise it.
Definitely very sad, but it’s becoming very difficult to be at all shocked by any news that comes from America these days.
The relentless stream of tales of abuse, inequality, corruption, radicalism, indictrination, cruelty, and senseless violence, among other things, begins to render one rather callous.
last night I wondered about how many people were on fentanyl with a script vs those without.
Bubblecar said:
Not much sign of recent heavy weather events in these peaceful snaps, although there is a bit of flooding over the southwest bank and some wind damage here and there.
pretty high. but not record.
Upper Derwent recorded record.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Not much sign of recent heavy weather events in these peaceful snaps, although there is a bit of flooding over the southwest bank and some wind damage here and there.
pretty high. but not record.
Upper Derwent recorded record.
Yes, much wetter down that way.
I’ve seen this little river much more flooded than this. There are times when it has flooded the caravan park and nearby houses have had to be sandbagged.
Bubblecar said:
Not much sign of recent heavy weather events in these peaceful snaps, although there is a bit of flooding over the southwest bank and some wind damage here and there.
Well I’m glad your arch bridge survived :)
Hello
Forgot to log in earlier
The Rev Dodgson said:
Well I’m glad your arch bridge survived :)
It’s weathered 186 years of weather so far :)
Hello.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Well I’m glad your arch bridge survived :)
I was thinking of you yesterday when I was watching a doco on how they constructed the Gateway Arch… I was in Missouri in 2001, and was impressed, but had no idea you could ride to the top at the time.
Hello Cymek & monkey.
I’m about to make a hot lunch.
Cymek said:
HelloForgot to log in earlier
In view of your good record there will be no action taken.
This time.
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well I’m glad your arch bridge survived :)
I was thinking of you yesterday when I was watching a doco on how they constructed the Gateway Arch… I was in Missouri in 2001, and was impressed, but had no idea you could ride to the top at the time.
I didn’t know that either.
Didn’t even know much about how they built.
But now I’m an expert:
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Bubblecar said:
Hello Cymek & monkey.I’m about to make a hot lunch.
I was having a quick siesta.

How the hell does that work?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well I’m glad your arch bridge survived :)
I was thinking of you yesterday when I was watching a doco on how they constructed the Gateway Arch… I was in Missouri in 2001, and was impressed, but had no idea you could ride to the top at the time.
I didn’t know that either.
Didn’t even know much about how they built.
But now I’m an expert:
that orange truss at the bottom was used to keep each leg arapt so they could climb up the side and fit the pieces.. and so they could place the key stone piece… such smart.
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:I was thinking of you yesterday when I was watching a doco on how they constructed the Gateway Arch… I was in Missouri in 2001, and was impressed, but had no idea you could ride to the top at the time.
I didn’t know that either.
Didn’t even know much about how they built.
But now I’m an expert:
that orange truss at the bottom was used to keep each leg arapt so they could climb up the side and fit the pieces.. and so they could place the key stone piece… such smart.
then the cars they use to get to the top.. I mean it really is interesting.. for a structure that, while big, is not much to look at… anyway, it gave me an appreciation for arch construction
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:I was thinking of you yesterday when I was watching a doco on how they constructed the Gateway Arch… I was in Missouri in 2001, and was impressed, but had no idea you could ride to the top at the time.
I didn’t know that either.
Didn’t even know much about how they built.
But now I’m an expert:
that orange truss at the bottom was used to keep each leg arapt so they could climb up the side and fit the pieces.. and so they could place the key stone piece… such smart.
It featured in the tv series Defiant
Cymek said:
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I didn’t know that either.
Didn’t even know much about how they built.
But now I’m an expert:
that orange truss at the bottom was used to keep each leg arapt so they could climb up the side and fit the pieces.. and so they could place the key stone piece… such smart.
It featured in the tv series Defiant
Defiance
Starting from yesterday, Jetstar Domestic flights are out of T2.
All airlines’ passenger flights will eventually be out of the T1/T2 complex.
The T3/T4 complex is some 9 km away by car.
I’m back. Interwebs seem to be working normally again. I visited a paddock full of swans this morning. They were honking at me.

buffy said:
I’m back. Interwebs seem to be working normally again. I visited a paddock full of swans this morning. They were honking at me.
As no less than Samuel Taylor Coleridge put it…
Swans sing before they die— ‘t were no bad thing
Should certain persons die before they sing.
Hey y’all what do you think the first figure in the Temu logo represents? A dress?

Witty Rejoinder said:
Hey y’all what do you think the first figure in the Temu logo represents? A dress?
wigwam.
ChrispenEvan said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Hey y’all what do you think the first figure in the Temu logo represents? A dress?
wigwam.
I buy my wigwam at Wigwam Mart, next to Wigwams’r‘Us: in the wigwam district.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Hey y’all what do you think the first figure in the Temu logo represents? A dress?
presumably, woman’s clothing
And here I am – on hold again to the bank…. I am beginning to get triggered. I have EPOW for Dad, and trying to sort out his money, They called him yesterday to confirm that it was okay to transfer the money. FFS – he doesn’t even know where he lives.
OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD
nerdlegame 958 1/6
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OCDC said:
OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODnerdlegame 958 1/6
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youse is smartz
Brindabellas said:
And here I am – on hold again to the bank…. I am beginning to get triggered. I have EPOW for Dad, and trying to sort out his money, They called him yesterday to confirm that it was okay to transfer the money. FFS – he doesn’t even know where he lives.
Frustrating.
Meanwhile, going to reduce my current antidepressant a bit then add a new one, as I’d hoped.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Hey y’all what do you think the first figure in the Temu logo represents? A dress?
yes
OCDC said:
Meanwhile, going to reduce my current antidepressant a bit then add a new one, as I’d hoped.Not quite – I’d hoped to keep the current one the same, but wanted to add another.
Brindabellas said:
And here I am – on hold again to the bank…. I am beginning to get triggered. I have EPOW for Dad, and trying to sort out his money, They called him yesterday to confirm that it was okay to transfer the money. FFS – he doesn’t even know where he lives.
OCDC said:
OCDC said:Meanwhile, going to reduce my current antidepressant a bit then add a new one, as I’d hoped.Not quite – I’d hoped to keep the current one the same, but wanted to add another.
Hope it works
Brindabellas said:
OCDC said:Ta. Although TBH it isn’t my most debilitating issue these days.OCDC said:Hope it worksMeanwhile, going to reduce my current antidepressant a bit then add a new one, as I’d hoped.Not quite – I’d hoped to keep the current one the same, but wanted to add another.
Brindabellas said:
OCDC said:
OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODnerdlegame 958 1/6
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
youse is smartz
and lucky?
Witty Rejoinder said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Hey y’all what do you think the first figure in the Temu logo represents? A dress?
wigwam.
I buy my wigwam at Wigwam Mart, next to Wigwams’r‘Us: in the wigwam district.
I went there to finish off my Goose’s Bridle, but they didn’t have one in the right colour.
sarahs mum said:
Brindabellas said:Same opener for two years. So now i have to ascertain whether they ever repeat, or if i need a new one. But I use the same in binerdle. Decisions decisions.OCDC said:and lucky?OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODyouse is smartznerdlegame 958 1/6
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buffy said:
Brittany Higgins’ lawyer’s summing up
Made a lot of sense of the whole thing.
Nothing to do with the fact that brittany was raped.
All about trying to save face for being a lying cow herself.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Brittany Higgins’ lawyer’s summing up
Made a lot of sense of the whole thing.
Nothing to do with the fact that brittany was raped.
All about trying to save face for being a lying cow herself.
Sub human behaviour isn’t it.
Near to home. The noisy buggers look to be moving in.


and there’s Mrs raven in her nest at the top of the tree next door.

Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Brittany Higgins’ lawyer’s summing up
Made a lot of sense of the whole thing.
Nothing to do with the fact that brittany was raped.
All about trying to save face for being a lying cow herself.
Sub human behaviour isn’t it.
Particularly for someone who is a public servant.
roughbarked said:
Near to home. The noisy buggers look to be moving in.
and there’s Mrs raven in her nest at the top of the tree next door.
oops.
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:Made a lot of sense of the whole thing.
Nothing to do with the fact that brittany was raped.
All about trying to save face for being a lying cow herself.
Sub human behaviour isn’t it.
Particularly for someone who is a public servant.
Link
Brittany Higgins “arrogantly” tried to claim she was the person most hurt in the aftermath of her Parliament House rape allegation and used her own trauma as a “catch-all excuse” for the “litany of lies” she told, a WA court has heard.
In an explosive final submission to the high-stakes defamation proceedings, Senator Linda Reynolds’s lawyer Martin Bennett has tried to eviscerate Ms Higgins’s defence of the case by painting her as a deliberate liar who tried to ruin her former boss’s career and bring down the Morrison government.
“This is Ms Higgins’s truth, not the truth,” he said.
Hello forumites. I’m back from a 4 day adventure to Yengo National Park with a few friends and a couple of new ones.
4 days off grid, and really didn’t miss having a phone or internet access, apart from not being able to ring my son for his birthday. I was rather hoping to get back to the news that Trump had imploded after a narcissistic meltdown, but sadly no.

Mount Yengo. They said Yengo is an Aboriginal word for mountain, so Mount Mountain

One of the boing boings

Some of the 154,000 hectares
Looks like a great time was had.
Time to head in to Hamilton for archery.
OCDC said:
Looks like a great time was had.
Oh yes indeedy. A bit of a nerdfest of the very best kind. Lots of running up and down hills, historical stuff, and loads of plants and ideas.
buffy said:
Time to head in to Hamilton for archery.
Buffy has got me wanting to take up archery. Luckily there is a group at the grounds that the farmers markets are held. I shall enquire on Sunday.
ruby said:
OCDC said:The running sounds awfully awful.Looks like a great time was had.Oh yes indeedy. A bit of a nerdfest of the very best kind. Lots of running up and down hills, historical stuff, and loads of plants and ideas.
OCDC said:
ruby said:OCDC said:The running sounds awfully awful.Looks like a great time was had.Oh yes indeedy. A bit of a nerdfest of the very best kind. Lots of running up and down hills, historical stuff, and loads of plants and ideas.
chuckle
There was the option to stay indoors and wait for stinky dirty sweaty exhausted people to arrive back.
Stranded NASA astronaut reports hearing ‘strange pulsing noises’ in urgent call
https://www.mirror.co.uk/science/stranded-nasa-astronaut-reports-hearing-33586250
Ooh … fourth season of Only Murders In The Building is out
ABC News:

‘…the sanctity of France.’
Is this. maybe, something to do with the Holy Roman Empire?
Or more to do with the inability of ABC staff to use a dictionary, to distinguish between ‘sanctity’ and ‘sanctuary’?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:Or perhaps the lawyer’s inability. Be interested to see a clip.
‘…the sanctity of France.’
Is this. maybe, something to do with the Holy Roman Empire?
Or more to do with the inability of ABC staff to use a dictionary, to distinguish between ‘sanctity’ and ‘sanctuary’?
dv said:
Stranded NASA astronaut reports hearing ‘strange pulsing noises’ in urgent callhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/science/stranded-nasa-astronaut-reports-hearing-33586250
Yes I read that a couple of days ago, it sounds like something is munted.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
‘…the sanctity of France.’
Is this. maybe, something to do with the Holy Roman Empire?
Or more to do with the inability of ABC staff to use a dictionary, to distinguish between ‘sanctity’ and ‘sanctuary’?
ABC staff thing she’s a saint.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
‘…the sanctity of France.’
Is this. maybe, something to do with the Holy Roman Empire?
Or more to do with the inability of ABC staff to use a dictionary, to distinguish between ‘sanctity’ and ‘sanctuary’?
ABC staff thing she’s a saint.
yes dear.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
‘…the sanctity of France.’
Is this. maybe, something to do with the Holy Roman Empire?
Or more to do with the inability of ABC staff to use a dictionary, to distinguish between ‘sanctity’ and ‘sanctuary’?
ABC staff thing she’s a saint.
Yeah, and Lucifer used to be an angel.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Stranded NASA astronaut reports hearing ‘strange pulsing noises’ in urgent callhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/science/stranded-nasa-astronaut-reports-hearing-33586250
Yes I read that a couple of days ago, it sounds like something is munted.
Okay slow down with the jargon egghead
ruby said:
Hello forumites. I’m back from a 4 day adventure to Yengo National Park with a few friends and a couple of new ones.
4 days off grid, and really didn’t miss having a phone or internet access, apart from not being able to ring my son for his birthday. I was rather hoping to get back to the news that Trump had imploded after a narcissistic meltdown, but sadly no.
Mount Yengo. They said Yengo is an Aboriginal word for mountain, so Mount Mountain
One of the boing boings
Some of the 154,000 hectares
nice, has me a proper read later
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yengo_National_Park
“The Yengo National Park is a protected national park that is located in the Lower Hunter region of New South Wales, in eastern Australia. The 154,328-hectare (381,350-acre) park is situated 213 kilometres (132 mi) northwest of Sydney, 40 kilometres (25 mi) south of Cessnock, 121 kilometres (75 mi) northwest of Gosford, and 91 kilometres (57 mi) southwest of Newcastle. The average elevation of the terrain is 309 metres.
The Yengo National Park is one of the eight protected areas that, in 2000, was inscribed to form part of the UNESCO World Heritage–listed Greater Blue Mountains Area. The Yengo National Park is the most north–easterly of the eight protected areas within the World Heritage Site. The national park forms part of the Great Dividing Range…”
RIP Tim Bowden – and Mrs J Weatherspoon of Surry Hills says that at his age, it comes as no surprise – “While not appointment television, it made a nice double bill with Rubbery Figures” back in the day”
Neophyte said:
RIP Tim Bowden – and Mrs J Weatherspoon of Surry Hills says that at his age, it comes as no surprise – “While not appointment television, it made a nice double bill with Rubbery Figures” back in the day”
I think that i’ll wait forthe English translation, before remarking on this.
captain_spalding said:
Neophyte said:
RIP Tim Bowden – and Mrs J Weatherspoon of Surry Hills says that at his age, it comes as no surprise – “While not appointment television, it made a nice double bill with Rubbery Figures” back in the day”
I think that i’ll wait forthe English translation, before remarking on this.
Former ABC broadcaster and author Tim Bowden dies, aged 87
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-03/former-abc-broadcaster-and-author-tim-bowden-dies-aged-87/104305872
Always used to enjoy Backchat.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Neophyte said:
RIP Tim Bowden – and Mrs J Weatherspoon of Surry Hills says that at his age, it comes as no surprise – “While not appointment television, it made a nice double bill with Rubbery Figures” back in the day”
I think that i’ll wait forthe English translation, before remarking on this.
Former ABC broadcaster and author Tim Bowden dies, aged 87
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-03/former-abc-broadcaster-and-author-tim-bowden-dies-aged-87/104305872
Always used to enjoy Backchat.
Yes, i saw that.
He was ‘just right’ for Backchat.
Brisbane air traffic controller found asleep on the job after series of night shifts
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-03/atsb-investigation-finds-air-traffic-controller-asleep-on-job/104304630
captain_spalding said:
Neophyte said:
RIP Tim Bowden – and Mrs J Weatherspoon of Surry Hills says that at his age, it comes as no surprise – “While not appointment television, it made a nice double bill with Rubbery Figures” back in the day”
I think that i’ll wait forthe English translation, before remarking on this.
He used to host Backchat, which was on around the same time as Rubbery Figures.
Bubblecar said:
Brisbane air traffic controller found asleep on the job after series of night shifts
but was he dead for 4 days
Happy 40th birthday to VH-QQB, purportedly the oldest aircraft still in regular passenger service in Australia.
A de Havilland Dash 8-100 currently in use by Skytrans.
dv said:
Happy 40th birthday to VH-QQB, purportedly the oldest aircraft still in regular passenger service in Australia.A de Havilland Dash 8-100 currently in use by Skytrans.
I wonder if that’s the one that flew out of Toowoomba’s city aerodromw for a while, on a scheduled service to, IIRC, Sydney?
Also, just today, Mrs S and me booked seats on Virgin Australia flights Brisbane-Newcastle and Newcastle-Brisbane. Apparently, those services are done by Fokker F-100s.
None of those have been built since 1997, so there’s some more veterans still in service.

yesterday…
13 people who ventured out against warnings have been rescued after they were forced to call for help on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mt Wellington this afternoon.
The group embarked on a day bushwalk with minimal food, water and no equipment to spend the night, while temperatures on the mountain sat below -3°C with wind gusts reaching up to 109km/h.
During the search, another 5 unprepared walkers were also found and assisted out, with police saying they’re ‘incredibly frustrated’ people aren’t listening to the ‘obvious warnings’.
sarahs mum said:
yesterday…
13 people who ventured out against warnings have been rescued after they were forced to call for help on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mt Wellington this afternoon.
The group embarked on a day bushwalk with minimal food, water and no equipment to spend the night, while temperatures on the mountain sat below -3°C with wind gusts reaching up to 109km/h.
During the search, another 5 unprepared walkers were also found and assisted out, with police saying they’re ‘incredibly frustrated’ people aren’t listening to the ‘obvious warnings’.
charge them for the privilege
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
yesterday…
13 people who ventured out against warnings have been rescued after they were forced to call for help on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mt Wellington this afternoon.
The group embarked on a day bushwalk with minimal food, water and no equipment to spend the night, while temperatures on the mountain sat below -3°C with wind gusts reaching up to 109km/h.
During the search, another 5 unprepared walkers were also found and assisted out, with police saying they’re ‘incredibly frustrated’ people aren’t listening to the ‘obvious warnings’.
charge them for the privilege
Time for a big steel gates and a sign saying “The Mountain is Closed, Please Fuck Off”
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:sarahs mum said:
yesterday…
13 people who ventured out against warnings have been rescued after they were forced to call for help on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mt Wellington this afternoon.
The group embarked on a day bushwalk with minimal food, water and no equipment to spend the night, while temperatures on the mountain sat below -3°C with wind gusts reaching up to 109km/h.
During the search, another 5 unprepared walkers were also found and assisted out, with police saying they’re ‘incredibly frustrated’ people aren’t listening to the ‘obvious warnings’.
charge them for the privilege
Time for a big steel gates and a sign saying “The Mountain is Closed, Please Fuck Off”
closed from the bottom gate ceptin’ for foot traffic.
I remember telling Sarah when she was a kid that when they said there were weather warnings they meant in her back yard.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:charge them for the privilege
Time for a big steel gates and a sign saying “The Mountain is Closed, Please Fuck Off”
closed from the bottom gate ceptin’ for foot traffic.
I remember telling Sarah when she was a kid that when they said there were weather warnings they meant in her back yard.
and mt wellington is the rock garden in Hobart’s backyard.

I’ll bet the people who used to laugh at Bigfoot aren’t laughing now.
They’ll have egg on their face now, hey.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:I think that i’ll wait forthe English translation, before remarking on this.
Former ABC broadcaster and author Tim Bowden dies, aged 87
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-03/former-abc-broadcaster-and-author-tim-bowden-dies-aged-87/104305872
Always used to enjoy Backchat.
Yes, i saw that.
He was ‘just right’ for Backchat.
I liked watching him. He was an easy person to listen to.
Morning scouts. Heading for 15 this end but alas the harsh wind will be back today, hopefully without power outages or other damage.
Music, art and more painting of toys planned.
Already scoffed a rather fatty breakfast (fried stras & egg on butterated toast) but to compensate, there’ll be very little fat consumption for the rest of the day.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees at the back door, overcast and getting light. We are forecast 19 degrees with a shower or two developing and there will be some wind. But only up to 50km/hr by the forecast, which is pretty normal for us.
I will be supermarketing this morning.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees at the back door, overcast and getting light. We are forecast 19 degrees with a shower or two developing and there will be some wind. But only up to 50km/hr by the forecast, which is pretty normal for us.I will be supermarketing this morning.
Hey Ms Buffy – A quick eye thingy from me, if I may.
A couple of weeks ago I started to get an itch in my left eye, but it wasn’t too bad so I didn’t worry about it. But over a few days it gradually became worse and I couldn’t ignore it any longer, so a trip to the local ER. The doctor found a large abrasion and prescribed lubricant & antibiotic drops for the next week. If it got better, great, but if it didn’t head straight to the main hospital here to see the ophthalmologist.
And that’s what happened last Monday. He diagnosed it as marginal keratitis and prescribed steroid drops as well. It also explains my I didn’t remember anything hitting my eye a couple of weeks ago.
This is how it looked lat Monday, the abrasion being a bit over half the area it was a week before.

I have to put a warm towel over my eyes twice a day to warm the glands, to make them flow better, and massage them to encourage more flow. The doctor also said that I should put lubrication drops in my eyes four times a day for the rest of my life, does that sound right?
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees at the back door, overcast and getting light. We are forecast 19 degrees with a shower or two developing and there will be some wind. But only up to 50km/hr by the forecast, which is pretty normal for us.I will be supermarketing this morning.
Hey Ms Buffy – A quick eye thingy from me, if I may.
A couple of weeks ago I started to get an itch in my left eye, but it wasn’t too bad so I didn’t worry about it. But over a few days it gradually became worse and I couldn’t ignore it any longer, so a trip to the local ER. The doctor found a large abrasion and prescribed lubricant & antibiotic drops for the next week. If it got better, great, but if it didn’t head straight to the main hospital here to see the ophthalmologist.
And that’s what happened last Monday. He diagnosed it as marginal keratitis and prescribed steroid drops as well. It also explains my I didn’t remember anything hitting my eye a couple of weeks ago.This is how it looked lat Monday, the abrasion being a bit over half the area it was a week before.
I have to put a warm towel over my eyes twice a day to warm the glands, to make them flow better, and massage them to encourage more flow. The doctor also said that I should put lubrication drops in my eyes four times a day for the rest of my life, does that sound right?
Yes, textbook treatment..
:)
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees at the back door, overcast and getting light. We are forecast 19 degrees with a shower or two developing and there will be some wind. But only up to 50km/hr by the forecast, which is pretty normal for us.I will be supermarketing this morning.
Hey Ms Buffy – A quick eye thingy from me, if I may.
A couple of weeks ago I started to get an itch in my left eye, but it wasn’t too bad so I didn’t worry about it. But over a few days it gradually became worse and I couldn’t ignore it any longer, so a trip to the local ER. The doctor found a large abrasion and prescribed lubricant & antibiotic drops for the next week. If it got better, great, but if it didn’t head straight to the main hospital here to see the ophthalmologist.
And that’s what happened last Monday. He diagnosed it as marginal keratitis and prescribed steroid drops as well. It also explains my I didn’t remember anything hitting my eye a couple of weeks ago.This is how it looked lat Monday, the abrasion being a bit over half the area it was a week before.
I have to put a warm towel over my eyes twice a day to warm the glands, to make them flow better, and massage them to encourage more flow. The doctor also said that I should put lubrication drops in my eyes four times a day for the rest of my life, does that sound right?
Yes, textbook treatment..
:)
Eye drops 4 x a day for the rest of your life sounds an annoying chore.
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees at the back door, overcast and getting light. We are forecast 19 degrees with a shower or two developing and there will be some wind. But only up to 50km/hr by the forecast, which is pretty normal for us.I will be supermarketing this morning.
Hey Ms Buffy – A quick eye thingy from me, if I may.
A couple of weeks ago I started to get an itch in my left eye, but it wasn’t too bad so I didn’t worry about it. But over a few days it gradually became worse and I couldn’t ignore it any longer, so a trip to the local ER. The doctor found a large abrasion and prescribed lubricant & antibiotic drops for the next week. If it got better, great, but if it didn’t head straight to the main hospital here to see the ophthalmologist.
And that’s what happened last Monday. He diagnosed it as marginal keratitis and prescribed steroid drops as well. It also explains my I didn’t remember anything hitting my eye a couple of weeks ago.This is how it looked lat Monday, the abrasion being a bit over half the area it was a week before.
I have to put a warm towel over my eyes twice a day to warm the glands, to make them flow better, and massage them to encourage more flow. The doctor also said that I should put lubrication drops in my eyes four times a day for the rest of my life, does that sound right?
Yes, textbook treatment..
:)
Ta.
I’m not looking forward to all that extra work every day though.
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:Hey Ms Buffy – A quick eye thingy from me, if I may.
A couple of weeks ago I started to get an itch in my left eye, but it wasn’t too bad so I didn’t worry about it. But over a few days it gradually became worse and I couldn’t ignore it any longer, so a trip to the local ER. The doctor found a large abrasion and prescribed lubricant & antibiotic drops for the next week. If it got better, great, but if it didn’t head straight to the main hospital here to see the ophthalmologist.
And that’s what happened last Monday. He diagnosed it as marginal keratitis and prescribed steroid drops as well. It also explains my I didn’t remember anything hitting my eye a couple of weeks ago.This is how it looked lat Monday, the abrasion being a bit over half the area it was a week before.
I have to put a warm towel over my eyes twice a day to warm the glands, to make them flow better, and massage them to encourage more flow. The doctor also said that I should put lubrication drops in my eyes four times a day for the rest of my life, does that sound right?
Yes, textbook treatment..
:)
Ta.
I’m not looking forward to all that extra work every day though.
When you wake, at meals, when you go to bed. That works out roughly right. It’s not something that has to be exact. Did they mention lid scrubs to keep your eyelids clean? That is what the warmth and massage are for. But I can tell you an easy way to do it for maintenance if you like.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
Hey Ms Buffy – A quick eye thingy from me, if I may.
A couple of weeks ago I started to get an itch in my left eye, but it wasn’t too bad so I didn’t worry about it. But over a few days it gradually became worse and I couldn’t ignore it any longer, so a trip to the local ER. The doctor found a large abrasion and prescribed lubricant & antibiotic drops for the next week. If it got better, great, but if it didn’t head straight to the main hospital here to see the ophthalmologist.
And that’s what happened last Monday. He diagnosed it as marginal keratitis and prescribed steroid drops as well. It also explains my I didn’t remember anything hitting my eye a couple of weeks ago.This is how it looked lat Monday, the abrasion being a bit over half the area it was a week before.
I have to put a warm towel over my eyes twice a day to warm the glands, to make them flow better, and massage them to encourage more flow. The doctor also said that I should put lubrication drops in my eyes four times a day for the rest of my life, does that sound right?
Yes, textbook treatment..
:)
Eye drops 4 x a day for the rest of your life sounds an annoying chore.
shrug people brush their teeth
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:Hey Ms Buffy – A quick eye thingy from me, if I may.
A couple of weeks ago I started to get an itch in my left eye, but it wasn’t too bad so I didn’t worry about it. But over a few days it gradually became worse and I couldn’t ignore it any longer, so a trip to the local ER. The doctor found a large abrasion and prescribed lubricant & antibiotic drops for the next week. If it got better, great, but if it didn’t head straight to the main hospital here to see the ophthalmologist.
And that’s what happened last Monday. He diagnosed it as marginal keratitis and prescribed steroid drops as well. It also explains my I didn’t remember anything hitting my eye a couple of weeks ago.This is how it looked lat Monday, the abrasion being a bit over half the area it was a week before.
I have to put a warm towel over my eyes twice a day to warm the glands, to make them flow better, and massage them to encourage more flow. The doctor also said that I should put lubrication drops in my eyes four times a day for the rest of my life, does that sound right?
Yes, textbook treatment..
:)
Eye drops 4 x a day for the rest of your life sounds an annoying chore.
Yes. I’ve been doing four drops a day for X long then three drops a day, blah.. for many weeks now and suddenly when I got a new prescription, one of the drops was back to four times a day. With ADHD it is difficult to stick to the regimen because things happen and one forgets until later.
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:Yes, textbook treatment..
:)
Ta.
I’m not looking forward to all that extra work every day though.
When you wake, at meals, when you go to bed. That works out roughly right. It’s not something that has to be exact. Did they mention lid scrubs to keep your eyelids clean? That is what the warmth and massage are for. But I can tell you an easy way to do it for maintenance if you like.
Lid scrubs weren’t mentioned, but please, go ahead with your advice.
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Yes, textbook treatment..
:)
Eye drops 4 x a day for the rest of your life sounds an annoying chore.
shrug people brush their teeth
Not four times a day, surely.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:Bubblecar said:
Eye drops 4 x a day for the rest of your life sounds an annoying chore.
shrug people brush their teeth
Not four times a day, surely.
A certain lady is celebrated in song for cleaning her teeth ten times a day.
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:Ta.
I’m not looking forward to all that extra work every day though.
When you wake, at meals, when you go to bed. That works out roughly right. It’s not something that has to be exact. Did they mention lid scrubs to keep your eyelids clean? That is what the warmth and massage are for. But I can tell you an easy way to do it for maintenance if you like.
Lid scrubs weren’t mentioned, but please, go ahead with your advice.
It’s just something simple to add into your normal shower routine. You need a facewasher (and an old one that has gotten a bit hard is actually better than a new soft one). Basically just wet the washer and squeeze it out so it’s not dripping wet, drape it over your pointing finger and wipe along the base of the lashes of one eye. Rinse out the washer and squeeze out and do the other lid of that eye. Repeat for the other eye. So the whole thing takes very little time to wipe along the lash base of 4 lids. Be careful to stay on the outside of the lashes…you don’t want to wipe the washer over your eye surface. This can be modified by the use of some diluted baby shampoo, but mostly it’s just the physical abrasion which removes any built up skin oil and reduces the irritation to your eye and it’s simpler not to bother with the shampoo.
(You can buy little wipes for doing lid scrubs…but I’m oldfashioned and like the simple things. The method I described sits very firmly in the category of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” and you don’t need to spend money on unnecessary things)
This was a lot easier to explain to a patient sitting in front of me so I could demonstrate with a tissue!
OK, I’m going to Hamilton. I’ll check back here when I get back in a couple of hours.
I can hear a woodchipper going in the Botanic Gardens over the road. A big old willow went down in the wind. I suspect it is becoming mulch.
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:When you wake, at meals, when you go to bed. That works out roughly right. It’s not something that has to be exact. Did they mention lid scrubs to keep your eyelids clean? That is what the warmth and massage are for. But I can tell you an easy way to do it for maintenance if you like.
Lid scrubs weren’t mentioned, but please, go ahead with your advice.
It’s just something simple to add into your normal shower routine. You need a facewasher (and an old one that has gotten a bit hard is actually better than a new soft one). Basically just wet the washer and squeeze it out so it’s not dripping wet, drape it over your pointing finger and wipe along the base of the lashes of one eye. Rinse out the washer and squeeze out and do the other lid of that eye. Repeat for the other eye. So the whole thing takes very little time to wipe along the lash base of 4 lids. Be careful to stay on the outside of the lashes…you don’t want to wipe the washer over your eye surface. This can be modified by the use of some diluted baby shampoo, but mostly it’s just the physical abrasion which removes any built up skin oil and reduces the irritation to your eye and it’s simpler not to bother with the shampoo.
(You can buy little wipes for doing lid scrubs…but I’m oldfashioned and like the simple things. The method I described sits very firmly in the category of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” and you don’t need to spend money on unnecessary things)
This was a lot easier to explain to a patient sitting in front of me so I could demonstrate with a tissue!
Righto then.
So that’s with the lids shut?
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
shrug people brush their teeth
Not four times a day, surely.
A certain lady is celebrated in song for cleaning her teeth ten times a day.
maybe and also people tend to have 32 teeth versus 4 eyelids
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Not four times a day, surely.
A certain lady is celebrated in song for cleaning her teeth ten times a day.
maybe and also people tend to have 32 teeth versus 4 eyelids
But you can fix that by not brushing them.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
A certain lady is celebrated in song for cleaning her teeth ten times a day.
maybe and also people tend to have 32 teeth versus 4 eyelids
But you can fix that by not brushing them.
also helps decrease the need to floss too
Morning hump people, that burst of warm weather has dissipated were back to coolish sunny days.
Over.
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Not four times a day, surely.
A certain lady is celebrated in song for cleaning her teeth ten times a day.
maybe and also people tend to have 32 teeth versus 4 eyelids
I have previously mentioned a school friend who became a valet.
As part of his regimen for being immediately presentable at any hour, he brushed his teeth five times a day.
Aslo showered twice a day, and shaved three times per day.
brushing our teeth is the only skeleton cleaning that gets done.
Arts said:
brushing our teeth is the only skeleton cleaning that gets done.
lies people clean their exoskeletons all the time

captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:The Rev Dodgson said:
A certain lady is celebrated in song for cleaning her teeth ten times a day.
maybe and also people tend to have 32 teeth versus 4 eyelids
I have previously mentioned a school friend who became a valet.
As part of his regimen for being immediately presentable at any hour, he brushed his teeth five times a day.
Aslo showered twice a day, and shaved three times per day.
Dear oh dear, valeting is not for mr then, I sometimes shower twice a day but that only for special occasions.
Listening to the BBC las night and a survey has found no link between mobile phone us and brian cancer but maybe the survey was done before 5G.
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:When you wake, at meals, when you go to bed. That works out roughly right. It’s not something that has to be exact. Did they mention lid scrubs to keep your eyelids clean? That is what the warmth and massage are for. But I can tell you an easy way to do it for maintenance if you like.
Lid scrubs weren’t mentioned, but please, go ahead with your advice.
It’s just something simple to add into your normal shower routine. You need a facewasher (and an old one that has gotten a bit hard is actually better than a new soft one). Basically just wet the washer and squeeze it out so it’s not dripping wet, drape it over your pointing finger and wipe along the base of the lashes of one eye. Rinse out the washer and squeeze out and do the other lid of that eye. Repeat for the other eye. So the whole thing takes very little time to wipe along the lash base of 4 lids. Be careful to stay on the outside of the lashes…you don’t want to wipe the washer over your eye surface. This can be modified by the use of some diluted baby shampoo, but mostly it’s just the physical abrasion which removes any built up skin oil and reduces the irritation to your eye and it’s simpler not to bother with the shampoo.
(You can buy little wipes for doing lid scrubs…but I’m oldfashioned and like the simple things. The method I described sits very firmly in the category of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” and you don’t need to spend money on unnecessary things)
This was a lot easier to explain to a patient sitting in front of me so I could demonstrate with a tissue!
Thanks.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:maybe and also people tend to have 32 teeth versus 4 eyelids
I have previously mentioned a school friend who became a valet.
As part of his regimen for being immediately presentable at any hour, he brushed his teeth five times a day.
Aslo showered twice a day, and shaved three times per day.
Dear oh dear, valeting is not for mr then, I sometimes shower twice a day but that only for special occasions.
You’re the type that gets Japanese TV hosts fired.
Japanese Host Fired For Complaining About Men With Body Odour
https://www.8days.sg/entertainment/asian/japanese-host-fired-complain-men-body-odour-834441
Peak Warming Man said:
Listening to the BBC las night and a survey has found no link between mobile phone us and brian cancer but maybe the survey was done before 5G.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:Lid scrubs weren’t mentioned, but please, go ahead with your advice.
It’s just something simple to add into your normal shower routine. You need a facewasher (and an old one that has gotten a bit hard is actually better than a new soft one). Basically just wet the washer and squeeze it out so it’s not dripping wet, drape it over your pointing finger and wipe along the base of the lashes of one eye. Rinse out the washer and squeeze out and do the other lid of that eye. Repeat for the other eye. So the whole thing takes very little time to wipe along the lash base of 4 lids. Be careful to stay on the outside of the lashes…you don’t want to wipe the washer over your eye surface. This can be modified by the use of some diluted baby shampoo, but mostly it’s just the physical abrasion which removes any built up skin oil and reduces the irritation to your eye and it’s simpler not to bother with the shampoo.
(You can buy little wipes for doing lid scrubs…but I’m oldfashioned and like the simple things. The method I described sits very firmly in the category of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” and you don’t need to spend money on unnecessary things)
This was a lot easier to explain to a patient sitting in front of me so I could demonstrate with a tissue!
Thanks.
No worries.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:It’s just something simple to add into your normal shower routine. You need a facewasher (and an old one that has gotten a bit hard is actually better than a new soft one). Basically just wet the washer and squeeze it out so it’s not dripping wet, drape it over your pointing finger and wipe along the base of the lashes of one eye. Rinse out the washer and squeeze out and do the other lid of that eye. Repeat for the other eye. So the whole thing takes very little time to wipe along the lash base of 4 lids. Be careful to stay on the outside of the lashes…you don’t want to wipe the washer over your eye surface. This can be modified by the use of some diluted baby shampoo, but mostly it’s just the physical abrasion which removes any built up skin oil and reduces the irritation to your eye and it’s simpler not to bother with the shampoo.
(You can buy little wipes for doing lid scrubs…but I’m oldfashioned and like the simple things. The method I described sits very firmly in the category of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” and you don’t need to spend money on unnecessary things)
This was a lot easier to explain to a patient sitting in front of me so I could demonstrate with a tissue!
Thanks.
No worries.
Despite ongoing nausea, weight has now stabilised – 100 g off in the last month – so that’s good.
what the hell does Australia taste like?

OCDC said:
Despite ongoing nausea, weight has now stabilised – 100 g off in the last month – so that’s good.
good
The things that come to mind – did you ever get your gallbladder out, Arts, or did getting fœtuses out fix it?
Arts said:
what the hell does Australia taste like?
Initially tastes of hope and possibility, but with lingering aftertones of irony and disappointment.
OCDC said:
Despite ongoing nausea, weight has now stabilised – 100 g off in the last month – so that’s good.
Good.
My weight’s on the up again. I’ve put on 5.2 kg since stopping smoking 107 days ago. So I am back to the weight I was at New Year.
Arts said:
what the hell does Australia taste like?
Just like it says.
It tastes like desert.
Arts said:
what the hell does Australia taste like?
No idea. Perhaps you should do the experiment and report back.
Michael V said:
OCDC said:Grats on the smoking!Despite ongoing nausea, weight has now stabilised – 100 g off in the last month – so that’s good.Good.
My weight’s on the up again. I’ve put on 5.2 kg since stopping smoking 107 days ago. So I am back to the weight I was at New Year.
what ya gets with a canvas blocker, avoid getting digital finger prints, place where I puts my pictures my computer tells it lies about screen size and stuff, changes the lies too, anyways place where I upload pictures goes upside down after I adjusts them and save, says that’ll learns ya for has a canvas blocker, Captain Derr of internet security
reckon what happen, I turn canvas blocker off again, clears my cookies etc too
OCDC said:
Michael V said:OCDC said:Grats on the smoking!Despite ongoing nausea, weight has now stabilised – 100 g off in the last month – so that’s good.Good.
My weight’s on the up again. I’ve put on 5.2 kg since stopping smoking 107 days ago. So I am back to the weight I was at New Year.
Thanks.
OCDC said:
Michael V said:OCDC said:Grats on the smoking!Despite ongoing nausea, weight has now stabilised – 100 g off in the last month – so that’s good.Good.
My weight’s on the up again. I’ve put on 5.2 kg since stopping smoking 107 days ago. So I am back to the weight I was at New Year.
+1
OCDC said:
The things that come to mind – did you ever get your gallbladder out, Arts, or did getting fœtuses out fix it?
it was removed about five years ago.. there was a flare up and then some drama and now it’s gone.
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
Despite ongoing nausea, weight has now stabilised – 100 g off in the last month – so that’s good.
Good.
My weight’s on the up again. I’ve put on 5.2 kg since stopping smoking 107 days ago. So I am back to the weight I was at New Year.
well done on the smoking cessation
Arts said:
OCDC said:Very good.The things that come to mind – did you ever get your gallbladder out, Arts, or did getting fœtuses out fix it?it was removed about five years ago.. there was a flare up and then some drama and now it’s gone.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
what the hell does Australia taste like?
Just like it says.
It tastes like desert.
it doesn’t say that at all
Michael V said:
OCDC said:Would fasting with Mrs 1005 be doable? I know that it wouldn’t work for me or I were still trying to lose weight, because I would overcompensate. (I already do this during my carb bender days if I’m not plagued by nausea but they are not a common event.)Michael V said:Thanks.Good.Grats on the smoking!My weight’s on the up again. I’ve put on 5.2 kg since stopping smoking 107 days ago. So I am back to the weight I was at New Year.
Arts said:
what the hell does Australia taste like?
mostly dry and sandy.
Arts said:
OCDC said:
The things that come to mind – did you ever get your gallbladder out, Arts, or did getting fœtuses out fix it?
it was removed about five years ago.. there was a flare up and then some drama and now it’s gone.
do you have it in a jar on your desk at work?
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Even Rizo doesn’t know – not listed on the website.Arts said:it doesn’t say that at allwhat the hell does Australia taste like?Just like it says.
It tastes like desert.
OCDC said:
Michael V said:* if I were still trying to lose weightOCDC said:Would fasting with Mrs 1005 be doable? I know that it wouldn’t work for me or I were still trying to lose weight, because I would overcompensate. (I already do this during my carb bender days if I’m not plagued by nausea but they are not a common event.)Grats on the smoking!Thanks.
ChrispenEvan said:
Arts said:
OCDC said:
The things that come to mind – did you ever get your gallbladder out, Arts, or did getting fœtuses out fix it?
it was removed about five years ago.. there was a flare up and then some drama and now it’s gone.
do you have it in a jar on your desk at work?
it should be in a jar?!
OCDC said:
Michael V said:OCDC said:Would fasting with Mrs 1005 be doable? I know that it wouldn’t work for me or I were still trying to lose weight, because I would overcompensate. (I already do this during my carb bender days if I’m not plagued by nausea but they are not a common event.)Grats on the smoking!Thanks.
The grog is the main problem. I do fast with Mrs V, but I drink. Alcohol provides more than 50% of my daily kJ. I was going to stop it with the smokes, but the Zyban instructions said not to because it increased the risk of seizures.
Oh, and I don’t exercise enough either.
Monash University has today announced the appointment of Dr Megan Clark AC as the next Chancellor of Monash University, following incumbent Chancellor, Simon McKeon AO’s decision to step down from his position.
Dr Clark, who will commence in the role on Tuesday 2 July 2024, is renowned for her significant contributions to science and technology in Australia.
She chaired the Review of Australia’s Space Industry Capability in March 2018 and served as the inaugural Head of the Australian Space Agency from 2018 to 2020 before she became Chair of the Agency’s advisory board, and prior to that served as Chief Executive of Australia’s leading science and technology organisation, the CSIRO.
Dr Clark is the first woman to be appointed to the position of Chancellor at Monash University.
Good.
Michael V said:
OCDC said:Ah. Maybe talk to your GP about a safe reduction when the time is right.Michael V said:The grog is the main problem. I do fast with Mrs V, but I drink. Alcohol provides more than 50% of my daily kJ. I was going to stop it with the smokes, but the Zyban instructions said not to because it increased the risk of seizures.Thanks.Would fasting with Mrs 1005 be doable? I know that it wouldn’t work for me or I were still trying to lose weight, because I would overcompensate. (I already do this during my carb bender days if I’m not plagued by nausea but they are not a common event.)
Oh, and I don’t exercise enough either.
Exercise schmexercise. I do less than I’ve ever done before. This is not a good thing obviously, and something I need to work on.
Now that I think about it, I was at my fattest when I did the most exercise.
I have been more than 10 kg heavier than I am now.
I started growing sideways when I stopped growing upwards (age: 28). I never had a growth spurt. Sow and steady growth.
Michael V said:
I have been more than 10 kg heavier than I am now.I started growing sideways when I stopped growing upwards (age: 28). I never had a growth spurt. Sow and steady growth.
slow…
But a porcine reference may work.
Michael V said:
I have been more than 10 kg heavier than I am now.I started growing sideways when I stopped growing upwards (age: 28). I never had a growth spurt. Sow and steady growth.
That’s what happens when you eat like a pig :)
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
Michael V said:Thanks.Would fasting with Mrs 1005 be doable? I know that it wouldn’t work for me or I were still trying to lose weight, because I would overcompensate. (I already do this during my carb bender days if I’m not plagued by nausea but they are not a common event.)
The grog is the main problem. I do fast with Mrs V, but I drink. Alcohol provides more than 50% of my daily kJ. I was going to stop it with the smokes, but the Zyban instructions said not to because it increased the risk of seizures.
Oh, and I don’t exercise enough either.
Tracking calories is, I think, the quickest and easiest way to get a handle on weight gain/loss (depending is what you are trying to do). It’s a eye opening experience to see how calorie-dense some foods and drinks really are.
Back.
Daughter phoned with belated Father’s Day sentiments.
Had a nice 1 hr chat.
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
Would fasting with Mrs 1005 be doable? I know that it wouldn’t work for me or I were still trying to lose weight, because I would overcompensate. (I already do this during my carb bender days if I’m not plagued by nausea but they are not a common event.)
The grog is the main problem. I do fast with Mrs V, but I drink. Alcohol provides more than 50% of my daily kJ. I was going to stop it with the smokes, but the Zyban instructions said not to because it increased the risk of seizures.
Oh, and I don’t exercise enough either.
Tracking calories is, I think, the quickest and easiest way to get a handle on weight gain/loss (depending is what you are trying to do). It’s a eye opening experience to see how calorie-dense some foods and drinks really are.
I have a spreadsheet for that. I have around 230 commonly used cooking ingredients. Early on, I had quite a deal of fun making tasty very filling meals with very low kJ.
Tamb said:
Back.
Daughter phoned with belated Father’s Day sentiments.
Had a nice 1 hr chat.
Did you berate her for being 4 days late.
OCDC said:
Monash University has today announced the appointment of Dr Megan Clark AC as the next Chancellor of Monash University, following incumbent Chancellor, Simon McKeon AO’s decision to step down from his position.Dr Clark, who will commence in the role on Tuesday 2 July 2024, is renowned for her significant contributions to science and technology in Australia.
She chaired the Review of Australia’s Space Industry Capability in March 2018 and served as the inaugural Head of the Australian Space Agency from 2018 to 2020 before she became Chair of the Agency’s advisory board, and prior to that served as Chief Executive of Australia’s leading science and technology organisation, the CSIRO.
Dr Clark is the first woman to be appointed to the position of Chancellor at Monash University.
Good.
good
I use the MyFitnessPal app. Free and easy to use.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
Back.
Daughter phoned with belated Father’s Day sentiments.
Had a nice 1 hr chat.
Did you berate her for being 4 days late.
Tamb said:
Back.
Daughter phoned with belated Father’s Day sentiments.
Had a nice 1 hr chat.
Goodo.
I just have days where I eat fewer calories… although I don’t track them as such, it’s just kind of.. well yesterday you did not moderate and so today you will… I also eat a lot of raw veg in my diet as a matter of course.. I do like the raw veg.. and I also walk a lot..
although I am starting to wonder about my hormone levels.. I have started a different type of treatment for age related issues, so we’ll see if that is better/worse/no change over the coming week or so… but I do wish I could control my sugar cravings more… (it’s cyclical but the days when it is strongest I am not good at moderating – being of the mindset that life is too short so just have the chocolate)
OCDC said:
I use the MyFitnessPal app. Free and easy to use.
:)
Arts said:
I just have days where I eat fewer calories… although I don’t track them as such, it’s just kind of.. well yesterday you did not moderate and so today you will… I also eat a lot of raw veg in my diet as a matter of course.. I do like the raw veg.. and I also walk a lot..IME carbs beget carbs. The more I eat, the more I crave. I have no probs going without everything except choc in between benders, and most days I have a small amount of Haigh’s choc, but still stay under 30 g carbs for the day, which includes veg.although I am starting to wonder about my hormone levels.. I have started a different type of treatment for age related issues, so we’ll see if that is better/worse/no change over the coming week or so… but I do wish I could control my sugar cravings more… (it’s cyclical but the days when it is strongest I am not good at moderating – being of the mindset that life is too short so just have the chocolate)
ask me about sugarless-coffeelessness-water-only
how’s this fucken wind, only going to get worse apparently
good to have a distraction anyway, maybe a big limb will blow off a gum tree and I can have an emergency, go take out my frustrations with the sharpened chainsaw, it’s all ready to go for just such an eventuality
fine word that, eventuality, don’t have need to use it much, hardly ever, but there ya go, opportunity arose, and how useful was it, or it was
“Australian model Elle Macpherson has revealed she has had breast cancer.
The supermodel says she was diagnosed seven years ago but decided not to undergo chemotherapy.
Instead, Ms Macpherson chose to follow a ‘holistic approach’ which she admits is not right for everyone.”
She’s taking them holistic tablets.
Peak Warming Man said:
“Australian model Elle Macpherson has revealed she has had breast cancer.
The supermodel says she was diagnosed seven years ago but decided not to undergo chemotherapy.
Instead, Ms Macpherson chose to follow a ‘holistic approach’ which she admits is not right for everyone.”She’s taking them holistic tablets.
She’s one of those …
transition said:
ask me about sugarless-coffeelessness-water-onlyhow’s this fucken wind, only going to get worse apparently
good to have a distraction anyway, maybe a big limb will blow off a gum tree and I can have an emergency, go take out my frustrations with the sharpened chainsaw, it’s all ready to go for just such an eventuality
fine word that, eventuality, don’t have need to use it much, hardly ever, but there ya go, opportunity arose, and how useful was it, or it was
Is AI quietly killing itself – and the Internet?
Innovation
By Tor Constantino, MBA – Contributor
Published onSeptember 3, 2024
Interest in artificial intelligence continues to surge, as Google searches over the past 12 months are at 92% of their all-time peak, but recent research suggests AI’s success could be its downfall. Amid the growth of AI content online, a group of researchers at Cambridge and Oxford universities set out to see what happens when generative AI tools query content produced by AI. What they found was alarming.
Read more:
https://www.forbes.com.au/news/innovation/is-ai-quietly-killing-itself-and-the-internet/
Tamb said:
transition said:
ask me about sugarless-coffeelessness-water-onlyhow’s this fucken wind, only going to get worse apparently
good to have a distraction anyway, maybe a big limb will blow off a gum tree and I can have an emergency, go take out my frustrations with the sharpened chainsaw, it’s all ready to go for just such an eventuality
fine word that, eventuality, don’t have need to use it much, hardly ever, but there ya go, opportunity arose, and how useful was it, or it was
But eventuality there will come an occasion when it will become the optimal word.
twisting the Queen’s English there, you’re a deviant, master Tamb
transition said:
Tamb said:
transition said:
ask me about sugarless-coffeelessness-water-onlyhow’s this fucken wind, only going to get worse apparently
good to have a distraction anyway, maybe a big limb will blow off a gum tree and I can have an emergency, go take out my frustrations with the sharpened chainsaw, it’s all ready to go for just such an eventuality
fine word that, eventuality, don’t have need to use it much, hardly ever, but there ya go, opportunity arose, and how useful was it, or it was
But eventuality there will come an occasion when it will become the optimal word.twisting the Queen’s English there, you’re a deviant, master Tamb
Witty Rejoinder said:
Is AI quietly killing itself – and the Internet?
InnovationBy Tor Constantino, MBA – Contributor
Published onSeptember 3, 2024Interest in artificial intelligence continues to surge, as Google searches over the past 12 months are at 92% of their all-time peak, but recent research suggests AI’s success could be its downfall. Amid the growth of AI content online, a group of researchers at Cambridge and Oxford universities set out to see what happens when generative AI tools query content produced by AI. What they found was alarming.
Read more:
https://www.forbes.com.au/news/innovation/is-ai-quietly-killing-itself-and-the-internet/
“complete devolution to nonsensical pablum”
Takes notes.

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The world’s largest sailing cargo ship is making its maiden voyage across the Atlantic Ocean. It left a port in France in early August, and it is on track to deliver 1000 tonnes of cognac and champagne to New York City by 3 September. Its shipments have a carbon footprint one tenth that of a standard container ship.
“For centuries we knew wind was abundant the deep sea, and we had the pilot charts,” says Guillaume Le Grand, CEO of TOWT, the French company that commissioned the 81-metre-long ship, named Anemos. “But now, thanks to satellite communication and routing technology, wind is also predictable, which makes it a reliable source of propulsion.”
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/…/2445620-worlds-largest…/
Image: Ronan Gladu/TOWT
outgrabe
PRONUNCIATION:
(out-GRAYB)
MEANING:
verb intr.: To emit strange noises, such as bellowing, whistling, and shrieking.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Is AI quietly killing itself – and the Internet?
InnovationBy Tor Constantino, MBA – Contributor
Published onSeptember 3, 2024Interest in artificial intelligence continues to surge, as Google searches over the past 12 months are at 92% of their all-time peak, but recent research suggests AI’s success could be its downfall. Amid the growth of AI content online, a group of researchers at Cambridge and Oxford universities set out to see what happens when generative AI tools query content produced by AI. What they found was alarming.
Read more:
https://www.forbes.com.au/news/innovation/is-ai-quietly-killing-itself-and-the-internet/
If much of it does eventually become useless, you’d assume it would no longer be financed.
sarahs mum said:
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New Scientist ·
The world’s largest sailing cargo ship is making its maiden voyage across the Atlantic Ocean. It left a port in France in early August, and it is on track to deliver 1000 tonnes of cognac and champagne to New York City by 3 September. Its shipments have a carbon footprint one tenth that of a standard container ship.
“For centuries we knew wind was abundant the deep sea, and we had the pilot charts,” says Guillaume Le Grand, CEO of TOWT, the French company that commissioned the 81-metre-long ship, named Anemos. “But now, thanks to satellite communication and routing technology, wind is also predictable, which makes it a reliable source of propulsion.”
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/…/2445620-worlds-largest…/
Image: Ronan Gladu/TOWT
But all the wind will eventually be used up by wind farms.
ChrispenEvan said:
outgrabeIt’s in Jabberwocky.PRONUNCIATION:
(out-GRAYB)MEANING:
verb intr.: To emit strange noises, such as bellowing, whistling, and shrieking.
sarahs mum said:
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New Scientist ·
The world’s largest sailing cargo ship is making its maiden voyage across the Atlantic Ocean. It left a port in France in early August, and it is on track to deliver 1000 tonnes of cognac and champagne to New York City by 3 September. Its shipments have a carbon footprint one tenth that of a standard container ship.
“For centuries we knew wind was abundant the deep sea, and we had the pilot charts,” says Guillaume Le Grand, CEO of TOWT, the French company that commissioned the 81-metre-long ship, named Anemos. “But now, thanks to satellite communication and routing technology, wind is also predictable, which makes it a reliable source of propulsion.”
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/…/2445620-worlds-largest…/
Image: Ronan Gladu/TOWT
It’s not a bad looking vessel.
OCDC said:
ChrispenEvan said:outgrabeIt’s in Jabberwocky.PRONUNCIATION:
(out-GRAYB)MEANING:
verb intr.: To emit strange noises, such as bellowing, whistling, and shrieking.
correct, and it is a made-up word.
ETYMOLOGY:
Coined by Lewis Carroll in the poem Jabberwocky. He described the word as connected with the old verb to grike or shrike. Earliest documented use: 1855.
NOTES:
Lewis Carroll described it as a past tense of outgribe, but now outgrabe is taken as the infinitive form. See more words coined by Lewis Carroll.
USAGE:
“When everything else failed, the police used less powerful versions of the same device to subdue juice addicts who outgrabed.”
Alan Dean Foster; Montezuma Strip; Aspect; 1995.

Pulse Tasmania
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Scam ads are appearing across social media offering people the opportunity to “experience the Hobart-Launceston Train Tour”, exploring Tasmania’s “stunning landscapes and charming towns” by rail.
The ads promise on-board accommodation, complimentary meals, free wifi and scenic views.
TasRail are warning people to be cautious of the scams, with passenger rail services having not run in Tasmania in 45 years.
Never fear Cymek is here.
Oh the pain, my back is a disaster area
sarahs mum said:
Shirley fake Tassie passengers don’t need to worry about being scammed.![]()
Pulse Tasmania
45m ·
Scam ads are appearing across social media offering people the opportunity to “experience the Hobart-Launceston Train Tour”, exploring Tasmania’s “stunning landscapes and charming towns” by rail.
The ads promise on-board accommodation, complimentary meals, free wifi and scenic views.
TasRail are warning people to be cautious of the scams, with passenger rail services having not run in Tasmania in 45 years.
Albino rock found on Mars, boffins in a quandary.
https://youtu.be/M_zoZhd2ZDY
Cymek said:
Never fear Cymek is here.Oh the pain, my back is a disaster area
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
Never fear Cymek is here.Oh the pain, my back is a disaster area
So was mine until I broke my hip. Whatever they did to fix the hip also took away the back pain.
How about that.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
what the hell does Australia taste like?
Just like it says.
It tastes like desert.
(y)
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
Never fear Cymek is here.Oh the pain, my back is a disaster area
So was mine until I broke my hip. Whatever they did to fix the hip also took away the back pain.How about that.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:So was mine until I broke my hip. Whatever they did to fix the hip also took away the back pain.
How about that.
I am very pleasantly surprised.
I’ll bet.
Chemo time. BBL
Tamb said:
Chemo time. BBL
Dogspeed.
transition said:
what ya gets with a canvas blocker, avoid getting digital finger prints, place where I puts my pictures my computer tells it lies about screen size and stuff, changes the lies too, anyways place where I upload pictures goes upside down after I adjusts them and save, says that’ll learns ya for has a canvas blocker, Captain Derr of internet securityreckon what happen, I turn canvas blocker off again, clears my cookies etc too
Why do you want to block canvas?
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
Michael V said:Good.Grats on the smoking!My weight’s on the up again. I’ve put on 5.2 kg since stopping smoking 107 days ago. So I am back to the weight I was at New Year.
Thanks.
It is good news.
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
My word! Finally! :)
Ha, congratulations.
Thanks Mr Car :)
How’s things?
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
My word! Finally! :)
Ha, congratulations.
Thanks Mr Car :)
How’s things?
Not too bad here, keeping afloat.
How are things your end these days?
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
My word! Finally! :)
Ha, congratulations.
Thanks Mr Car :)
How’s things?
Hi again, Speedy.
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:Ha, congratulations.
Thanks Mr Car :)
How’s things?
Not too bad here, keeping afloat.
How are things your end these days?
Not bad here either, except for finding termites in the house. Lots of renovation work happening.
Fortunately I’ve already done today’s wordle, but the other day it was spoilt for me by a post of the captain’s in chat.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:Ha, congratulations.
Thanks Mr Car :)
How’s things?
Hi again, Speedy.
Hey Mr Barked :) How’ve you been?
I had a surveyor break one of my plants and will be doing cuttings from it today. EVERY time I do cuttings, I still remember all your advice.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:Thanks Mr Car :)
How’s things?
Not too bad here, keeping afloat.
How are things your end these days?
Not bad here either, except for finding termites in the house. Lots of renovation work happening.
Damn. Have they caused much damage?
OCDC said:
Fortunately I’ve already done today’s wordle, but the other day it was spoilt for me by a post of the captain’s in chat.
Ooops, sorry. I hadn’t thought of that! Sorry all ‘round then.
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:Not too bad here, keeping afloat.
How are things your end these days?
Not bad here either, except for finding termites in the house. Lots of renovation work happening.
Damn. Have they caused much damage?
Yep, we found them active across the entire back of the house, but haven’t revealed all the damage yet. One bathroom, toilet, and study have been gutted. Thankfully, that bathroom needed replacing anyway, as will the kitchen which is probably damaged behind the linings. Glad we are in a single storey house, as one of the beams was damaged and tricky enough to replace.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:Thanks Mr Car :)
How’s things?
Hi again, Speedy.
Hey Mr Barked :) How’ve you been?
I had a surveyor break one of my plants and will be doing cuttings from it today. EVERY time I do cuttings, I still remember all your advice.
Cool. :) I did some cuttings this morning as well.
Have been out in the bush photographing orchids since. Just got back and doing photos.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:Not bad here either, except for finding termites in the house. Lots of renovation work happening.
Damn. Have they caused much damage?
Yep, we found them active across the entire back of the house, but haven’t revealed all the damage yet. One bathroom, toilet, and study have been gutted. Thankfully, that bathroom needed replacing anyway, as will the kitchen which is probably damaged behind the linings. Glad we are in a single storey house, as one of the beams was damaged and tricky enough to replace.
They can quickly devour a house while you cannot see them.
While looking for orchids found this, well off the road and up a steep slope in the bush.
I’d say it was a Holden once.


Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:Not bad here either, except for finding termites in the house. Lots of renovation work happening.
Damn. Have they caused much damage?
Yep, we found them active across the entire back of the house, but haven’t revealed all the damage yet. One bathroom, toilet, and study have been gutted. Thankfully, that bathroom needed replacing anyway, as will the kitchen which is probably damaged behind the linings. Glad we are in a single storey house, as one of the beams was damaged and tricky enough to replace.
heptachlor is your friend.
;-)
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:Not bad here either, except for finding termites in the house. Lots of renovation work happening.
Damn. Have they caused much damage?
Yep, we found them active across the entire back of the house, but haven’t revealed all the damage yet. One bathroom, toilet, and study have been gutted. Thankfully, that bathroom needed replacing anyway, as will the kitchen which is probably damaged behind the linings. Glad we are in a single storey house, as one of the beams was damaged and tricky enough to replace.
Awful. I remember the terribly eaten floors in that old cottage I lived in up the road. But I’m not sure if that was termites or white ants.
There was that time one of my bed legs broke through the decayed floor while I was in the bed.
roughbarked said:
While looking for orchids found this, well off the road and up a steep slope in the bush.
I’d say it was a Holden once.
might be holden red, thrown a crankshaft right out of the block
revhead aren’t ya roughbarked
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:Damn. Have they caused much damage?
Yep, we found them active across the entire back of the house, but haven’t revealed all the damage yet. One bathroom, toilet, and study have been gutted. Thankfully, that bathroom needed replacing anyway, as will the kitchen which is probably damaged behind the linings. Glad we are in a single storey house, as one of the beams was damaged and tricky enough to replace.
Awful. I remember the terribly eaten floors in that old cottage I lived in up the road. But I’m not sure if that was termites or white ants.
There was that time one of my bed legs broke through the decayed floor while I was in the bed.
Termites are also called white ants. They are the same thing.
transition said:
roughbarked said:
While looking for orchids found this, well off the road and up a steep slope in the bush.
I’d say it was a Holden once.
might be holden red, thrown a crankshaft right out of the block
revhead aren’t ya roughbarked
Some people don’t respect the bush.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:Yep, we found them active across the entire back of the house, but haven’t revealed all the damage yet. One bathroom, toilet, and study have been gutted. Thankfully, that bathroom needed replacing anyway, as will the kitchen which is probably damaged behind the linings. Glad we are in a single storey house, as one of the beams was damaged and tricky enough to replace.
Awful. I remember the terribly eaten floors in that old cottage I lived in up the road. But I’m not sure if that was termites or white ants.
There was that time one of my bed legs broke through the decayed floor while I was in the bed.
Termites are also called white ants. They are the same thing.
Except there is no such thing as a white ant.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:Not bad here either, except for finding termites in the house. Lots of renovation work happening.
Damn. Have they caused much damage?
Yep, we found them active across the entire back of the house, but haven’t revealed all the damage yet. One bathroom, toilet, and study have been gutted. Thankfully, that bathroom needed replacing anyway, as will the kitchen which is probably damaged behind the linings. Glad we are in a single storey house, as one of the beams was damaged and tricky enough to replace.
Bummer. They can do a lot of damage, and quite quickly, too.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
roughbarked said:
While looking for orchids found this, well off the road and up a steep slope in the bush.
I’d say it was a Holden once.
might be holden red, thrown a crankshaft right out of the block
revhead aren’t ya roughbarked
Some people don’t respect the bush.
Them Brazillians, certainly don’t
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:might be holden red, thrown a crankshaft right out of the block
revhead aren’t ya roughbarked
Some people don’t respect the bush.
Them Brazillians, certainly don’t
I’d say it was quite an effort to get this across the ditch and up the side of the hill.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
roughbarked said:
While looking for orchids found this, well off the road and up a steep slope in the bush.
I’d say it was a Holden once.
might be holden red, thrown a crankshaft right out of the block
revhead aren’t ya roughbarked
Some people don’t respect the bush.
what could be more natural than a holden red motor in the scrub, if it is
hypothetical for you
imagine you found a restorable 1956 FJ holden in surprising good condition
transition said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:might be holden red, thrown a crankshaft right out of the block
revhead aren’t ya roughbarked
Some people don’t respect the bush.
what could be more natural than a holden red motor in the scrub, if it is
hypothetical for you
imagine you found a restorable 1956 FJ holden in surprising good condition
I know where there’s a surface rusted FX.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:Yep, we found them active across the entire back of the house, but haven’t revealed all the damage yet. One bathroom, toilet, and study have been gutted. Thankfully, that bathroom needed replacing anyway, as will the kitchen which is probably damaged behind the linings. Glad we are in a single storey house, as one of the beams was damaged and tricky enough to replace.
Awful. I remember the terribly eaten floors in that old cottage I lived in up the road. But I’m not sure if that was termites or white ants.
There was that time one of my bed legs broke through the decayed floor while I was in the bed.
Termites are also called white ants. They are the same thing.
Dat’s right, I’d forgotten.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:Hi again, Speedy.
Hey Mr Barked :) How’ve you been?
I had a surveyor break one of my plants and will be doing cuttings from it today. EVERY time I do cuttings, I still remember all your advice.
Cool. :) I did some cuttings this morning as well.
Have been out in the bush photographing orchids since. Just got back and doing photos.
:) Nice
ChrispenEvan said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:Damn. Have they caused much damage?
Yep, we found them active across the entire back of the house, but haven’t revealed all the damage yet. One bathroom, toilet, and study have been gutted. Thankfully, that bathroom needed replacing anyway, as will the kitchen which is probably damaged behind the linings. Glad we are in a single storey house, as one of the beams was damaged and tricky enough to replace.
heptachlor is your friend.
;-)
We tried baiting for several months but they wouldn’t touch it. Then just resorted to dusting as it was coming into Winter. Now we are working on a perimeter barrier, but can’t use the poisons as the house close to a creek, and we actually have platypuses living here. Yes, right in Sydney! :) Anyhow, there is a resin barrier system called Novinthor which we are just about to do.
I’ve been listening in the background to Jeremy Rifkin on the Third Industrial Revolution on SBS. In some ways I would have liked to have heard it all maybe I’ll find somewhere I can read it.
roughbarked said:
I’ve been listening in the background to Jeremy Rifkin on the Third Industrial Revolution on SBS. In some ways I would have liked to have heard it all maybe I’ll find somewhere I can read it.
I’m listening to Joel Rifkin reading children books on tape.
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
I’ve been listening in the background to Jeremy Rifkin on the Third Industrial Revolution on SBS. In some ways I would have liked to have heard it all maybe I’ll find somewhere I can read it.
I’m listening to Joel Rifkin reading children books on tape.
the serial killer?
Arts said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
I’ve been listening in the background to Jeremy Rifkin on the Third Industrial Revolution on SBS. In some ways I would have liked to have heard it all maybe I’ll find somewhere I can read it.
I’m listening to Joel Rifkin reading children books on tape.
the serial killer?
He’s very prolific.
Arts said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
I’ve been listening in the background to Jeremy Rifkin on the Third Industrial Revolution on SBS. In some ways I would have liked to have heard it all maybe I’ll find somewhere I can read it.
I’m listening to Joel Rifkin reading children books on tape.
the serial killer?
Yes
It isn’t true, I was making a joke
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:I’m listening to Joel Rifkin reading children books on tape.
the serial killer?
He’s very prolific.
Remie
Over the last few months, there have been a lot of signs nailed onto trees between here and Gympie. “NO Forest Wind” is what they say.
It seems that Forest Wind is a proposal to put a 1.2 gigawatt wind wind farm across the very large pine plantations nearby. It seems that the local hippies don’t like the idea. NIMBYs. The plantations are non-native trees (slash pine), so the environment is arguably already well damaged.
I honestly cannot think of a better place to put these giant wind-harvesting, electricity-generating towers. And it’ll produce about one quarter of Queensland’s electricity in a non CO2-emitting way.
https://www.forestwind.com.au/
dinner is top secret, about to be cooked, hint some reproduction-related intermediate stage of cluckis cluckis domesticus, usually in the feathered dinosaur world requires fertilization and appropriate incubation, anyway make not a bad meal without a baby cluckis domesticus in them, on something made of dough, sliced, then baked, further it’s to be browned with heat from a flame.
and look it’s landed i’m going to have to stop typing if i’m to eat effectively, good excuse to stop anyway, I was getting tired of it, losing interest, pointless typing you know why bother?, seems pointless
Michael V said:
Over the last few months, there have been a lot of signs nailed onto trees between here and Gympie. “NO Forest Wind” is what they say.It seems that Forest Wind is a proposal to put a 1.2 gigawatt wind wind farm across the very large pine plantations nearby. It seems that the local hippies don’t like the idea. NIMBYs. The plantations are non-native trees (slash pine), so the environment is arguably already well damaged.
I honestly cannot think of a better place to put these giant wind-harvesting, electricity-generating towers. And it’ll produce about one quarter of Queensland’s electricity in a non CO2-emitting way.
https://www.forestwind.com.au/
Hopefully it wins approval regardless of the naysayers.
raining lightly so open door let cool air in, pleasantly pleasant
transition said:
dinner is top secret, about to be cooked, hint some reproduction-related intermediate stage of cluckis cluckis domesticus, usually in the feathered dinosaur world requires fertilization and appropriate incubation, anyway make not a bad meal without a baby cluckis domesticus in them, on something made of dough, sliced, then baked, further it’s to be browned with heat from a flame.and look it’s landed i’m going to have to stop typing if i’m to eat effectively, good excuse to stop anyway, I was getting tired of it, losing interest, pointless typing you know why bother?, seems pointless
Scrambled cluckis cluckis on charred bread.
Michael V said:
Over the last few months, there have been a lot of signs nailed onto trees between here and Gympie. “NO Forest Wind” is what they say.It seems that Forest Wind is a proposal to put a 1.2 gigawatt wind wind farm across the very large pine plantations nearby. It seems that the local hippies don’t like the idea. NIMBYs. The plantations are non-native trees (slash pine), so the environment is arguably already well damaged.
I honestly cannot think of a better place to put these giant wind-harvesting, electricity-generating towers. And it’ll produce about one quarter of Queensland’s electricity in a non CO2-emitting way.
https://www.forestwind.com.au/
your local hippies are ratbags.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Over the last few months, there have been a lot of signs nailed onto trees between here and Gympie. “NO Forest Wind” is what they say.It seems that Forest Wind is a proposal to put a 1.2 gigawatt wind wind farm across the very large pine plantations nearby. It seems that the local hippies don’t like the idea. NIMBYs. The plantations are non-native trees (slash pine), so the environment is arguably already well damaged.
I honestly cannot think of a better place to put these giant wind-harvesting, electricity-generating towers. And it’ll produce about one quarter of Queensland’s electricity in a non CO2-emitting way.
https://www.forestwind.com.au/
Hopefully it wins approval regardless of the naysayers.
Apparently the QLD government gave its approval in 2019. I somehow missed that It seems that COVID may have stalled the project. And some Commonwealth approvals are required. I hope it goes ahead ASAP.

Hmmmm.
Speedy said:
OCDC said:NP. In the thread is fine though.Fortunately I’ve already done today’s wordle, but the other day it was spoilt for me by a post of the captain’s in chat.Ooops, sorry. I hadn’t thought of that! Sorry all ‘round then.
Alan Turing’s chess engine.
https://youtu.be/UhmC2NEr9p4
Enjoy.
OCDC said:
Speedy said:OCDC said:NP. In the thread is fine though.Fortunately I’ve already done today’s wordle, but the other day it was spoilt for me by a post of the captain’s in chat.Ooops, sorry. I hadn’t thought of that! Sorry all ‘round then.
If it’s any consolation, i accidentally opened the Wordle thread this morning, and thus spoilt today’s Wordle for myself.
Buffy, if you are reading this chat thread – Did you mean with the eyelids closed when running the wiper over them? It would seem to be rather difficult to do with them open … ?
captain_spalding said:
OCDC said:Excellent! I do it more often with phrazle thread as it’s not always at the same time.If it’s any consolation, i accidentally opened the Wordle thread this morning, and thus spoilt today’s Wordle for myself.
Speedy said:Ooops, sorry. I hadn’t thought of that! Sorry all ‘round then.NP. In the thread is fine though.
Spiny Norman said:
Buffy, if you are reading this chat thread – Did you mean with the eyelids closed when running the wiper over them? It would seem to be rather difficult to do with them open … ?
You could try doing one eye in the ‘open’ mode, and the other in the ‘closed’ mode, and see which is more practical/less agonising.
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
Buffy, if you are reading this chat thread – Did you mean with the eyelids closed when running the wiper over them? It would seem to be rather difficult to do with them open … ?
You could try doing one eye in the ‘open’ mode, and the other in the ‘closed’ mode, and see which is more practical/less agonising.
Eyes should be plug n’ play by now anyway. Should be able to change them like light bulbs.
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
Buffy, if you are reading this chat thread – Did you mean with the eyelids closed when running the wiper over them? It would seem to be rather difficult to do with them open … ?
You could try doing one eye in the ‘open’ mode, and the other in the ‘closed’ mode, and see which is more practical/less agonising.
Well if I could manage to keep the wiper off the eye ball it’d be a tie. But with my big clumsy hands that seems unlikely.
Spiny Norman said:
Buffy, if you are reading this chat thread – Did you mean with the eyelids closed when running the wiper over them? It would seem to be rather difficult to do with them open … ?
Sorry, I’ve been busy. With practice you can do the bottom lids without shutting your eyes, but yes, in general it is safer with your eyes closed.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
Buffy, if you are reading this chat thread – Did you mean with the eyelids closed when running the wiper over them? It would seem to be rather difficult to do with them open … ?
You could try doing one eye in the ‘open’ mode, and the other in the ‘closed’ mode, and see which is more practical/less agonising.
Eyes should be plug n’ play by now anyway. Should be able to change them like light bulbs.
There are >a million nerves in that cable from eye to brain…and each one has to plug into the right one or nothing works…
buffy said:
There are >a million nerves in that cable from eye to brain…and each one has to plug into the right one or nothing works…
See, another argument against ‘intelligent design’.
If there was intelligence involved in the evolution of the eye,they would be easily replaceable/connectable.
I mean even Geordi La Forge didn’t get fake eyes for yonks, so what hope do we have this century?
OCDC – I also downloaded all of ST Lower Decks for you.
Still got around 100gb to fill the card with if you like.
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
Buffy, if you are reading this chat thread – Did you mean with the eyelids closed when running the wiper over them? It would seem to be rather difficult to do with them open … ?
Sorry, I’ve been busy. With practice you can do the bottom lids without shutting your eyes, but yes, in general it is safer with your eyes closed.
Ta, I’ll give it a try soon.
Just taken over the eyedrops duty from Spocky now, so just one more thing to add to the daily routine.
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC – I also downloaded all of ST Lower Decks for you.You’re a champ. Can’t think of others ATM.
Still got around 100gb to fill the card with if you like.
Worker dead at Wells Fargo desk for 4 days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFCmNeTgdrs
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
Buffy, if you are reading this chat thread – Did you mean with the eyelids closed when running the wiper over them? It would seem to be rather difficult to do with them open … ?
Sorry, I’ve been busy. With practice you can do the bottom lids without shutting your eyes, but yes, in general it is safer with your eyes closed.
Ta, I’ll give it a try soon.
Just taken over the eyedrops duty from Spocky now, so just one more thing to add to the daily routine.
Has someone told you how to get the drops in with minimal fuss? Pull out the lower lid to make a cup and drop the drop in there, preferably towards the outside corner. The atomic bomb technique (head back and directly into an open eye) will almost always make you reflexly blink.
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:Sorry, I’ve been busy. With practice you can do the bottom lids without shutting your eyes, but yes, in general it is safer with your eyes closed.
Ta, I’ll give it a try soon.
Just taken over the eyedrops duty from Spocky now, so just one more thing to add to the daily routine.
Has someone told you how to get the drops in with minimal fuss? Pull out the lower lid to make a cup and drop the drop in there, preferably towards the outside corner. The atomic bomb technique (head back and directly into an open eye) will almost always make you reflexly blink.
I haven’t tried that one yet, ta.
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC – I also downloaded all of ST Lower Decks for you.
Still got around 100gb to fill the card with if you like.
SN, any chance I could have copies of those shows? My email is kariwitchet at protonmail dot me
btm said:
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC – I also downloaded all of ST Lower Decks for you.
Still got around 100gb to fill the card with if you like.
SN, any chance I could have copies of those shows? My email is kariwitchet at protonmail dot me
Sure.
btm said:
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC – I also downloaded all of ST Lower Decks for you.
Still got around 100gb to fill the card with if you like.
SN, any chance I could have copies of those shows? My email is kariwitchet at protonmail dot me
Email bounced sorry.
Spiny Norman said:
btm said:
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC – I also downloaded all of ST Lower Decks for you.
Still got around 100gb to fill the card with if you like.
SN, any chance I could have copies of those shows? My email is kariwitchet at protonmail dot me
Email bounced sorry.
Try me at – aussie.bill.sherwood at geemale dot commmm
cornflakes in cold milk, what I has
few spots rain the roof
transition said:
cornflakes in cold milk, what I hasfew spots rain the roof
been a rainy old day here. Same tomorrow.
someone got to go get load wood out of wood heap shortly, bring it in nearby, I don’t mind doing it, don’t get up
rain gets bit heavier
party_pants said:
transition said:
cornflakes in cold milk, what I hasfew spots rain the roof
been a rainy old day here. Same tomorrow.
wasn’t expecting any until friday, but take what I can get
couple western yellow robins, one on the left just give a grub to one on the right, not the best picture but has both birds

party_pants said:
transition said:
cornflakes in cold milk, what I hasfew spots rain the roof
been a rainy old day here. Same tomorrow.
yeah, bit over it. a few non-rain days in a row would be nice.
La Rioja to issue first provincial currency of the Milei era
Governor Ricardo Quintela claims the move was forced by the ‘cruelty’ of the national government’s spending cuts
February 21, 2024
La Rioja is set to issue the first provincial currency of the Milei era. Known as the Debt Cancellation Bond (BOCADE, for its Spanish initials), it will begin circulating in 45 days. The decision to print a local tender was approved last month by the provincial legislature.
The BOCADE will also be known as El Chacho due to the fact that the bills feature a picture of local strongman Ángel Vicente “Chacho” Peñaloza, one of the last federal leaders to rise up in arms against Buenos Aires centralism in the 19th century. The local currency will be issued in denominations of AR$1,000, 2,000, 5,000, 10,000 and 50,000. Total emissions will reach AR$15 billion.
According to the bill approved by the legislature, the provincial government must now reach an agreement with banks (either the Rioja Bank or other entities) on how to credit deposits in checking and savings accounts.
The new law also forces the three branches of the state (local city governments, public companies, and other self-financing public organizations) to accept the provincial currency to make payments, either partially or in full.
The governor blames the Milei administration
La Rioja governor Ricardo Quintela confirmed the issuing of the provincial currency and criticized the national government. “They are forcing us into this due to the speed, savagery, and cruelty of the spending cuts they have conducted over the last 20 days,” he said.
“Because of this, when people went to get their paychecks, they already couldn’t make ends meet.”
According to the governor, his administration is “forced” to promote the creation of a bond — the provincial currency — to “cover part of the salary” of government workers.
In his remarks against the La Libertad Avanza (LLA) government, he claimed that there are also plans or programs meant to “destabilize” provincial governments by encouraging people to turn against local authorities.
https://buenosairesherald.com/politics/la-rioja-to-issue-first-provincial-currency-of-the-milei-era
Witty Rejoinder said:
La Rioja to issue first provincial currency of the Milei era
Governor Ricardo Quintela claims the move was forced by the ‘cruelty’ of the national government’s spending cutsFebruary 21, 2024
La Rioja is set to issue the first provincial currency of the Milei era. Known as the Debt Cancellation Bond (BOCADE, for its Spanish initials), it will begin circulating in 45 days. The decision to print a local tender was approved last month by the provincial legislature.
The BOCADE will also be known as El Chacho due to the fact that the bills feature a picture of local strongman Ángel Vicente “Chacho” Peñaloza, one of the last federal leaders to rise up in arms against Buenos Aires centralism in the 19th century. The local currency will be issued in denominations of AR$1,000, 2,000, 5,000, 10,000 and 50,000. Total emissions will reach AR$15 billion.
According to the bill approved by the legislature, the provincial government must now reach an agreement with banks (either the Rioja Bank or other entities) on how to credit deposits in checking and savings accounts.
The new law also forces the three branches of the state (local city governments, public companies, and other self-financing public organizations) to accept the provincial currency to make payments, either partially or in full.
The governor blames the Milei administration
La Rioja governor Ricardo Quintela confirmed the issuing of the provincial currency and criticized the national government. “They are forcing us into this due to the speed, savagery, and cruelty of the spending cuts they have conducted over the last 20 days,” he said.“Because of this, when people went to get their paychecks, they already couldn’t make ends meet.”
According to the governor, his administration is “forced” to promote the creation of a bond — the provincial currency — to “cover part of the salary” of government workers.
In his remarks against the La Libertad Avanza (LLA) government, he claimed that there are also plans or programs meant to “destabilize” provincial governments by encouraging people to turn against local authorities.
https://buenosairesherald.com/politics/la-rioja-to-issue-first-provincial-currency-of-the-milei-era
Can’t see a small localised currency being an improvement anywhere.
ChrispenEvan said:
party_pants said:
transition said:
cornflakes in cold milk, what I hasfew spots rain the roof
been a rainy old day here. Same tomorrow.
yeah, bit over it. a few non-rain days in a row would be nice.
Yeah, certain earthworks contractors are looking forward to it drying out a bit so that their machinery can stay on the surface of the planet.
so apparently they can show the faces of some dentists out there
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-04/farzam-mehrabi-guilty-drugging-raping-women/104189168
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
Over the last few months, there have been a lot of signs nailed onto trees between here and Gympie. “NO Forest Wind” is what they say.It seems that Forest Wind is a proposal to put a 1.2 gigawatt wind wind farm across the very large pine plantations nearby. It seems that the local hippies don’t like the idea. NIMBYs. The plantations are non-native trees (slash pine), so the environment is arguably already well damaged.
I honestly cannot think of a better place to put these giant wind-harvesting, electricity-generating towers. And it’ll produce about one quarter of Queensland’s electricity in a non CO2-emitting way.
https://www.forestwind.com.au/
your local hippies are ratbags.
Think the hippies were smarter than that. It is your local dunderheards.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
Over the last few months, there have been a lot of signs nailed onto trees between here and Gympie. “NO Forest Wind” is what they say.
It seems that Forest Wind is a proposal to put a 1.2 gigawatt wind wind farm across the very large pine plantations nearby. It seems that the local hippies don’t like the idea. NIMBYs. The plantations are non-native trees (slash pine), so the environment is arguably already well damaged.
I honestly cannot think of a better place to put these giant wind-harvesting, electricity-generating towers. And it’ll produce about one quarter of Queensland’s electricity in a non CO2-emitting way.
https://www.forestwind.com.au/
your local hippies are ratbags.
Think the hippies were smarter than that. It is your local dunderheards.
False Flag Hippies
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
your local hippies are ratbags.
Think the hippies were smarter than that. It is your local dunderheards.
False Flag Hippies
2nd gen hippies. Less peace and love and trees. More heroin and anti vaxxing.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 10 degrees at the back door, there are some clouds around, not much wind and it’s getting light. We had a thunderstorm around 2.00am and I’ve just heard another rumble. In the dark I thought it was a truck on the highway 60m away to start with, but the rumble went on too long and then there was lightning and more obvious thunder. We are forecast 19 degrees with showers. Geelong is forecast 22 and showers.
We are going to Geelong today for Mr buffy’s final tooth implant fitting. His appointment is at 11.30am. We will leave at 8.00am.
transition said:
couple western yellow robins, one on the left just give a grub to one on the right, not the best picture but has both birds
Catching an image. That’s what it is all about.
ChrispenEvan said:
party_pants said:
transition said:
cornflakes in cold milk, what I hasfew spots rain the roof
been a rainy old day here. Same tomorrow.
yeah, bit over it. a few non-rain days in a row would be nice.

roughbarked said:
transition said:
couple western yellow robins, one on the left just give a grub to one on the right, not the best picture but has both birds
Catching an image. That’s what it is all about.
Recently saw a black cormorant in my big yellow box. Thought to myself, why are you there?
Then I connected the dots. Recent fire on the wetland close by had decimated the reedbeds ini the nearby swamp. Must have been hundreds of birds deprived of either their lives or their protection, nest sites and all. During nesting season.
I’m getting really pissed off with the local bands of ratbag vandals and thieves.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
couple western yellow robins, one on the left just give a grub to one on the right, not the best picture but has both birds
Catching an image. That’s what it is all about.
catching an imago
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:
couple western yellow robins, one on the left just give a grub to one on the right, not the best picture but has both birds
Catching an image. That’s what it is all about.
catching an imago
:) is the last stage an insect attains during its metamorphosis, its process of growth and development.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Think the hippies were smarter than that. It is your local dunderheards.
False Flag Hippies
2nd gen hippies. Less peace and love and trees. More heroin and anti vaxxing.
ugh
Morning forum fam.
A lovely day here, sunshine and 28 degrees. Things are finally drying out after the perpetual rain.
So we’ll be whinging about fires soon
ruby said:
Morning forum fam.
A lovely day here, sunshine and 28 degrees. Things are finally drying out after the perpetual rain.
So we’ll be whinging about fires soon
and here’s me begging for a few drops of the wet stuff.
Morning punters and correctors, it’s very rainified and cold in the Pearl. of the South Specific.
Nice to see the TSV rain shadow is still working.

dv said:
Nice to see the TSV rain shadow is still working.
Yes, I’m bein’ followed by a rainshadow
Rainshadow, rainshadow
Woken by thunder some hours ago, and a bit of rain. Not enough for Gandalf to go under his emotional support coffee table though. Meanwhile I am very blah and am ready for the day to end already so today’s going to be great.
another mass shooting at a high school in Georgia, USA… the shooter apparently called the school and said there was going to be a shooting..
I hate every word.. these sentences should never have to be written
(4 dead several injured if you are interested – https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/apalachee-high-school-shooting-georgia-09-04-24#h_2b9234957810f668ee5b68f74f3deeeb)
Arts said:
another mass shooting at a high school in Georgia, USA… the shooter apparently called the school and said there was going to be a shooting..I hate every word.. these sentences should never have to be written
(4 dead several injured if you are interested – https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/apalachee-high-school-shooting-georgia-09-04-24#h_2b9234957810f668ee5b68f74f3deeeb)
Freedom comes at a price
Arts said:
another mass shooting at a high school in Georgia, USA… the shooter apparently called the school and said there was going to be a shooting..I hate every word.. these sentences should never have to be written
(4 dead several injured if you are interested – https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/apalachee-high-school-shooting-georgia-09-04-24#h_2b9234957810f668ee5b68f74f3deeeb)
It’s horrible.
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:
another mass shooting at a high school in Georgia, USA… the shooter apparently called the school and said there was going to be a shooting..I hate every word.. these sentences should never have to be written
(4 dead several injured if you are interested – https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/apalachee-high-school-shooting-georgia-09-04-24#h_2b9234957810f668ee5b68f74f3deeeb)
Freedom comes at a price
just another word for nothing left to lose.
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:
another mass shooting at a high school in Georgia, USA… the shooter apparently called the school and said there was going to be a shooting..I hate every word.. these sentences should never have to be written
(4 dead several injured if you are interested – https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/apalachee-high-school-shooting-georgia-09-04-24#h_2b9234957810f668ee5b68f74f3deeeb)
Freedom comes at a price
just another word for nothing left to lose.
what’s interesting about this one is that the shooter is still alive and in custody… so the interview will provide some interesting insight. (from a criminological perspective)
and since a precedent has been set with the Crumbley family, I’m also interested in how the parents will be treated/questioned.
Hello
https://theconversation.com/some-clinicians-are-using-ai-to-write-health-records-what-do-you-need-to-know-237762
sarahs mum said:
https://theconversation.com/some-clinicians-are-using-ai-to-write-health-records-what-do-you-need-to-know-237762
Hmmmmm.
I’m ambivalent.
FK CN ¡
venues are comprehensively monitored by CCTV, a matter which is notified to patrons and staff with clear signage to that effect. “The CCTV covers public spaces in our venue, which is both lawful and standard practice in large hospitality venues. “It is lawful for Merivale to capture this footage and there can be no reasonable expectation of privacy
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:
another mass shooting at a high school in Georgia, USA… the shooter apparently called the school and said there was going to be a shooting..I hate every word.. these sentences should never have to be written
(4 dead several injured if you are interested – https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/apalachee-high-school-shooting-georgia-09-04-24#h_2b9234957810f668ee5b68f74f3deeeb)
Freedom comes at a price
sounds evil, add an insane laugh after uttering that
transition said:
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:
another mass shooting at a high school in Georgia, USA… the shooter apparently called the school and said there was going to be a shooting..I hate every word.. these sentences should never have to be written
(4 dead several injured if you are interested – https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/apalachee-high-school-shooting-georgia-09-04-24#h_2b9234957810f668ee5b68f74f3deeeb)
Freedom comes at a price
sounds evil, add an insane laugh after uttering that
Freedom on a national level often means repressing others freedom or committing genocide
Cymek said:
transition said:
diddly-squat said:Freedom comes at a price
sounds evil, add an insane laugh after uttering that
Freedom on a national level often means repressing others freedom or committing genocide
Freedom means no contact with nutters.
More bling than function.


Cymek said:
transition said:
diddly-squat said:Freedom comes at a price
sounds evil, add an insane laugh after uttering that
Freedom on a national level often means repressing others freedom or committing genocide
seems like a word often used to avoid explaining something, saves a lot of unnecessary and inconvenient detail, in fact the dumbest creature could get by without working concepts, or effort across concepts, regard a lot of things, just substitute bullshit about freedom, half a notion, dress it up appealingly, before long other idiots share the same stupid
And, we’re back from the hairdressers’ with a #1 for me and a #2 for Mrs V.
:)
Michael V said:
A #1 cut
And, we’re back from the hairdressers’ with a #1 for me and a #2 for Mrs V.:)
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:A #1 cut
And, we’re back from the hairdressers’ with a #1 for me and a #2 for Mrs V.:)
Not quite as pretty as that, though.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:A #1 cut
And, we’re back from the hairdressers’ with a #1 for me and a #2 for Mrs V.:)
Not quite as pretty as that, though.
:)
Well thank FK for that.
The Kodi box under the telly crapped itself in early June so I had to make a new one. It was just one of my old pc’s that I quickly reconfigured to run as a Kodi box, as the previous box had died about a year before. I simple popped the HDD out of the original box and fitted it into the old pc and that worked just fine until June.
Anyway I wanted to keep it even more simple so I got a Raspberry Pi 4 and set that up with Kodi. It all went quite well but I couldn’t get the TV function working on it. I started posting on a Kodi forum with questions on how to make it work in mid June, and after a fair bit of f’king around I finally got it working about half an hour ago. And that was with a lot of help from the forum, I could never have worked it out by myself.
Anyway we’re back to having the full media viewing options in the house now, quite a relief.
Overall it’s quite a compact gadget. The Pi sits on the bottom and has the network, USB, and HDMI ports. The TV Hat plugs into the top of it and the tiny little chip provides all the functions to make it work as a telly.

Spiny Norman said:
Well thank FK for that.
The Kodi box under the telly crapped itself in early June so I had to make a new one. It was just one of my old pc’s that I quickly reconfigured to run as a Kodi box, as the previous box had died about a year before. I simple popped the HDD out of the original box and fitted it into the old pc and that worked just fine until June.
Anyway I wanted to keep it even more simple so I got a Raspberry Pi 4 and set that up with Kodi. It all went quite well but I couldn’t get the TV function working on it. I started posting on a Kodi forum with questions on how to make it work in mid June, and after a fair bit of f’king around I finally got it working about half an hour ago. And that was with a lot of help from the forum, I could never have worked it out by myself.
Anyway we’re back to having the full media viewing options in the house now, quite a relief.Overall it’s quite a compact gadget. The Pi sits on the bottom and has the network, USB, and HDMI ports. The TV Hat plugs into the top of it and the tiny little chip provides all the functions to make it work as a telly.
And thanks to the the 3D printing community, I’ll be printing a small enclosure for it. It’s got a 40 mm fan to help keep it all cool.
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https://www.printables.com/model/134275-raspberry-pi-4-snap-fit-case-30mm-fan-heatsink-pi-
Spiny Norman said:
Spiny Norman said:
Well thank FK for that.
The Kodi box under the telly crapped itself in early June so I had to make a new one. It was just one of my old pc’s that I quickly reconfigured to run as a Kodi box, as the previous box had died about a year before. I simple popped the HDD out of the original box and fitted it into the old pc and that worked just fine until June.
Anyway I wanted to keep it even more simple so I got a Raspberry Pi 4 and set that up with Kodi. It all went quite well but I couldn’t get the TV function working on it. I started posting on a Kodi forum with questions on how to make it work in mid June, and after a fair bit of f’king around I finally got it working about half an hour ago. And that was with a lot of help from the forum, I could never have worked it out by myself.
Anyway we’re back to having the full media viewing options in the house now, quite a relief.Overall it’s quite a compact gadget. The Pi sits on the bottom and has the network, USB, and HDMI ports. The TV Hat plugs into the top of it and the tiny little chip provides all the functions to make it work as a telly.
And thanks to the the 3D printing community, I’ll be printing a small enclosure for it. It’s got a 40 mm fan to help keep it all cool.
https://www.printables.com/model/134275-raspberry-pi-4-snap-fit-case-30mm-fan-heatsink-pi-
Tidy work.
Spiny Norman said:
Well thank FK for that.
The Kodi box under the telly crapped itself in early June so I had to make a new one. It was just one of my old pc’s that I quickly reconfigured to run as a Kodi box, as the previous box had died about a year before. I simple popped the HDD out of the original box and fitted it into the old pc and that worked just fine until June.
Anyway I wanted to keep it even more simple so I got a Raspberry Pi 4 and set that up with Kodi. It all went quite well but I couldn’t get the TV function working on it. I started posting on a Kodi forum with questions on how to make it work in mid June, and after a fair bit of f’king around I finally got it working about half an hour ago. And that was with a lot of help from the forum, I could never have worked it out by myself.
Anyway we’re back to having the full media viewing options in the house now, quite a relief.Overall it’s quite a compact gadget. The Pi sits on the bottom and has the network, USB, and HDMI ports. The TV Hat plugs into the top of it and the tiny little chip provides all the functions to make it work as a telly.
We’ve just got a Fetch box to replace the Telstra Roku box which stops working in October
MV…it cost $115 from Harvey Norman, and an activation fee of $1. Mr buffy set it up. I haven’t actually played with it yet. But now everything including the TV goes through the box whereas before you used the TV remote for TV and then swapped to the Roku for freeview stuff.
And we are back from Geelong. Mr buffy has got a full mouth of teeth again, some real, some implants.
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
Well thank FK for that.
The Kodi box under the telly crapped itself in early June so I had to make a new one. It was just one of my old pc’s that I quickly reconfigured to run as a Kodi box, as the previous box had died about a year before. I simple popped the HDD out of the original box and fitted it into the old pc and that worked just fine until June.
Anyway I wanted to keep it even more simple so I got a Raspberry Pi 4 and set that up with Kodi. It all went quite well but I couldn’t get the TV function working on it. I started posting on a Kodi forum with questions on how to make it work in mid June, and after a fair bit of f’king around I finally got it working about half an hour ago. And that was with a lot of help from the forum, I could never have worked it out by myself.
Anyway we’re back to having the full media viewing options in the house now, quite a relief.Overall it’s quite a compact gadget. The Pi sits on the bottom and has the network, USB, and HDMI ports. The TV Hat plugs into the top of it and the tiny little chip provides all the functions to make it work as a telly.
We’ve just got a Fetch box to replace the Telstra Roku box which stops working in October
MV…it cost $115 from Harvey Norman, and an activation fee of $1. Mr buffy set it up. I haven’t actually played with it yet. But now everything including the TV goes through the box whereas before you used the TV remote for TV and then swapped to the Roku for freeview stuff.
Righto. Lots of luck with your new toy!
buffy said:
And we are back from Geelong. Mr buffy has got a full mouth of teeth again, some real, some implants.
I hope he finds them well worth the bother and expense :)
we just had big hail.. then one clap of thunder and now silence.
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
Well thank FK for that.
The Kodi box under the telly crapped itself in early June so I had to make a new one. It was just one of my old pc’s that I quickly reconfigured to run as a Kodi box, as the previous box had died about a year before. I simple popped the HDD out of the original box and fitted it into the old pc and that worked just fine until June.
Anyway I wanted to keep it even more simple so I got a Raspberry Pi 4 and set that up with Kodi. It all went quite well but I couldn’t get the TV function working on it. I started posting on a Kodi forum with questions on how to make it work in mid June, and after a fair bit of f’king around I finally got it working about half an hour ago. And that was with a lot of help from the forum, I could never have worked it out by myself.
Anyway we’re back to having the full media viewing options in the house now, quite a relief.Overall it’s quite a compact gadget. The Pi sits on the bottom and has the network, USB, and HDMI ports. The TV Hat plugs into the top of it and the tiny little chip provides all the functions to make it work as a telly.
We’ve just got a Fetch box to replace the Telstra Roku box which stops working in October
MV…it cost $115 from Harvey Norman, and an activation fee of $1. Mr buffy set it up. I haven’t actually played with it yet. But now everything including the TV goes through the box whereas before you used the TV remote for TV and then swapped to the Roku for freeview stuff.
Righto. Lots of luck with your new toy!
Neither of us have your skills. And we are not ready for a new TV yet. So I think it was Hubbl or Fetch.
Arts said:
we just had big hail.. then one clap of thunder and now silence.
Perhaps it killed your ears…
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
Well thank FK for that.
The Kodi box under the telly crapped itself in early June so I had to make a new one. It was just one of my old pc’s that I quickly reconfigured to run as a Kodi box, as the previous box had died about a year before. I simple popped the HDD out of the original box and fitted it into the old pc and that worked just fine until June.
Anyway I wanted to keep it even more simple so I got a Raspberry Pi 4 and set that up with Kodi. It all went quite well but I couldn’t get the TV function working on it. I started posting on a Kodi forum with questions on how to make it work in mid June, and after a fair bit of f’king around I finally got it working about half an hour ago. And that was with a lot of help from the forum, I could never have worked it out by myself.
Anyway we’re back to having the full media viewing options in the house now, quite a relief.Overall it’s quite a compact gadget. The Pi sits on the bottom and has the network, USB, and HDMI ports. The TV Hat plugs into the top of it and the tiny little chip provides all the functions to make it work as a telly.
We’ve just got a Fetch box to replace the Telstra Roku box which stops working in October
MV…it cost $115 from Harvey Norman, and an activation fee of $1. Mr buffy set it up. I haven’t actually played with it yet. But now everything including the TV goes through the box whereas before you used the TV remote for TV and then swapped to the Roku for freeview stuff.
Thanks for that. $115 is a bit cheaper than Hardly Normal up here. How do you pay the activation fee?
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
Well thank FK for that.
The Kodi box under the telly crapped itself in early June so I had to make a new one. It was just one of my old pc’s that I quickly reconfigured to run as a Kodi box, as the previous box had died about a year before. I simple popped the HDD out of the original box and fitted it into the old pc and that worked just fine until June.
Anyway I wanted to keep it even more simple so I got a Raspberry Pi 4 and set that up with Kodi. It all went quite well but I couldn’t get the TV function working on it. I started posting on a Kodi forum with questions on how to make it work in mid June, and after a fair bit of f’king around I finally got it working about half an hour ago. And that was with a lot of help from the forum, I could never have worked it out by myself.
Anyway we’re back to having the full media viewing options in the house now, quite a relief.Overall it’s quite a compact gadget. The Pi sits on the bottom and has the network, USB, and HDMI ports. The TV Hat plugs into the top of it and the tiny little chip provides all the functions to make it work as a telly.
We’ve just got a Fetch box to replace the Telstra Roku box which stops working in October
MV…it cost $115 from Harvey Norman, and an activation fee of $1. Mr buffy set it up. I haven’t actually played with it yet. But now everything including the TV goes through the box whereas before you used the TV remote for TV and then swapped to the Roku for freeview stuff.
Thanks for that. $115 is a bit cheaper than Hardly Normal up here. How do you pay the activation fee?
Is the box wifi to the modem?
(Or do you need a cable to connect?)
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
Well thank FK for that.
The Kodi box under the telly crapped itself in early June so I had to make a new one. It was just one of my old pc’s that I quickly reconfigured to run as a Kodi box, as the previous box had died about a year before. I simple popped the HDD out of the original box and fitted it into the old pc and that worked just fine until June.
Anyway I wanted to keep it even more simple so I got a Raspberry Pi 4 and set that up with Kodi. It all went quite well but I couldn’t get the TV function working on it. I started posting on a Kodi forum with questions on how to make it work in mid June, and after a fair bit of f’king around I finally got it working about half an hour ago. And that was with a lot of help from the forum, I could never have worked it out by myself.
Anyway we’re back to having the full media viewing options in the house now, quite a relief.Overall it’s quite a compact gadget. The Pi sits on the bottom and has the network, USB, and HDMI ports. The TV Hat plugs into the top of it and the tiny little chip provides all the functions to make it work as a telly.
We’ve just got a Fetch box to replace the Telstra Roku box which stops working in October
MV…it cost $115 from Harvey Norman, and an activation fee of $1. Mr buffy set it up. I haven’t actually played with it yet. But now everything including the TV goes through the box whereas before you used the TV remote for TV and then swapped to the Roku for freeview stuff.
Thanks for that. $115 is a bit cheaper than Hardly Normal up here. How do you pay the activation fee?
Card, via the computer. Apparently the instructions just give you an “easy install” thing.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:We’ve just got a Fetch box to replace the Telstra Roku box which stops working in October
MV…it cost $115 from Harvey Norman, and an activation fee of $1. Mr buffy set it up. I haven’t actually played with it yet. But now everything including the TV goes through the box whereas before you used the TV remote for TV and then swapped to the Roku for freeview stuff.
Thanks for that. $115 is a bit cheaper than Hardly Normal up here. How do you pay the activation fee?
Is the box wifi to the modem?
(Or do you need a cable to connect?)
HDMI cable box to TV and the aerial is plugged into the box. And a power cord. Then the box talks WiFi to the computer. Or you can cable it somehow. But it’s basically just the same as the Roku, except the Roku used the aerial through the TV. Or something.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Thanks for that. $115 is a bit cheaper than Hardly Normal up here. How do you pay the activation fee?
Is the box wifi to the modem?
(Or do you need a cable to connect?)
HDMI cable box to TV and the aerial is plugged into the box. And a power cord. Then the box talks WiFi to the computer. Or you can cable it somehow. But it’s basically just the same as the Roku, except the Roku used the aerial through the TV. Or something.
I suspect if the aerial was left on the TV, it would be like it was before with the Roku…TV remote for TV and Fetch remote for freeview stuff. But Mr buffy set it up according to the quick setup. Seems to me that the Fetch being wifi to the computer doesn’t really need an aerial. But who am I to question the setter upper?
buffy said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:Is the box wifi to the modem?
(Or do you need a cable to connect?)
HDMI cable box to TV and the aerial is plugged into the box. And a power cord. Then the box talks WiFi to the computer. Or you can cable it somehow. But it’s basically just the same as the Roku, except the Roku used the aerial through the TV. Or something.
I suspect if the aerial was left on the TV, it would be like it was before with the Roku…TV remote for TV and Fetch remote for freeview stuff. But Mr buffy set it up according to the quick setup. Seems to me that the Fetch being wifi to the computer doesn’t really need an aerial. But who am I to question the setter upper?
I doubt it would talk to the computer. I suspect it talks to the modem directly to get to the internet. I’ve now confirmed on their site – via WIFI or via ethernet cable.
buffy said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:Is the box wifi to the modem?
(Or do you need a cable to connect?)
HDMI cable box to TV and the aerial is plugged into the box. And a power cord. Then the box talks WiFi to the computer. Or you can cable it somehow. But it’s basically just the same as the Roku, except the Roku used the aerial through the TV. Or something.
I suspect if the aerial was left on the TV, it would be like it was before with the Roku…TV remote for TV and Fetch remote for freeview stuff. But Mr buffy set it up according to the quick setup. Seems to me that the Fetch being wifi to the computer doesn’t really need an aerial. But who am I to question the setter upper?
I know from experience – NEVER question the setter upperer
Michael V said:
buffy said:
buffy said:HDMI cable box to TV and the aerial is plugged into the box. And a power cord. Then the box talks WiFi to the computer. Or you can cable it somehow. But it’s basically just the same as the Roku, except the Roku used the aerial through the TV. Or something.
I suspect if the aerial was left on the TV, it would be like it was before with the Roku…TV remote for TV and Fetch remote for freeview stuff. But Mr buffy set it up according to the quick setup. Seems to me that the Fetch being wifi to the computer doesn’t really need an aerial. But who am I to question the setter upper?
I doubt it would talk to the computer. I suspect it talks to the modem directly to get to the internet. I’ve now confirmed on their site – via WIFI or via ethernet cable.
Yes, thinking further…why would it talk to the computer anyway? yes, wifi to the modem.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:I suspect if the aerial was left on the TV, it would be like it was before with the Roku…TV remote for TV and Fetch remote for freeview stuff. But Mr buffy set it up according to the quick setup. Seems to me that the Fetch being wifi to the computer doesn’t really need an aerial. But who am I to question the setter upper?
I doubt it would talk to the computer. I suspect it talks to the modem directly to get to the internet. I’ve now confirmed on their site – via WIFI or via ethernet cable.
Yes, thinking further…why would it talk to the computer anyway? yes, wifi to the modem.
They’ve got a very lengthy set of FAQs on their web site.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:I doubt it would talk to the computer. I suspect it talks to the modem directly to get to the internet. I’ve now confirmed on their site – via WIFI or via ethernet cable.
Yes, thinking further…why would it talk to the computer anyway? yes, wifi to the modem.
They’ve got a very lengthy set of FAQs on their web site.
What is the point of it
Having everything run from the one box ?
This is for non smart TV’s ?
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:Yes, thinking further…why would it talk to the computer anyway? yes, wifi to the modem.
They’ve got a very lengthy set of FAQs on their web site.
What is the point of it
Having everything run from the one box ?
This is for non smart TV’s ?
They try to be a one shop stop for streaming services that older smart TVs might not have.
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:Yes, thinking further…why would it talk to the computer anyway? yes, wifi to the modem.
They’ve got a very lengthy set of FAQs on their web site.
What is the point of it
Having everything run from the one box ?
This is for non smart TV’s ?
I have a non-smart TV. When I signed up with Telstra as ISP, they sent me out a Roku device called Telstra TV, that connected the TV to the internet through apps in the box. That service is being cancelled in less than a month, and the Roku device will no longer work.
Trying to find something to replace it.
Michael V said:
Cymek said:
Michael V said:They’ve got a very lengthy set of FAQs on their web site.
What is the point of it
Having everything run from the one box ?
This is for non smart TV’s ?
I have a non-smart TV. When I signed up with Telstra as ISP, they sent me out a Roku device called Telstra TV, that connected the TV to the internet through apps in the box. That service is being cancelled in less than a month, and the Roku device will no longer work.
Trying to find something to replace it.
I can’t understand why all this cannot be done via a computer.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
Michael V said:They’ve got a very lengthy set of FAQs on their web site.
What is the point of it
Having everything run from the one box ?
This is for non smart TV’s ?
They try to be a one shop stop for streaming services that older smart TVs might not have.
Thanks
That makes sense.
I got myself a new tv last week and the software is vastly improved
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:
Cymek said:What is the point of it
Having everything run from the one box ?
This is for non smart TV’s ?
I have a non-smart TV. When I signed up with Telstra as ISP, they sent me out a Roku device called Telstra TV, that connected the TV to the internet through apps in the box. That service is being cancelled in less than a month, and the Roku device will no longer work.
Trying to find something to replace it.
I can’t understand why all this cannot be done via a computer.
HDMI plugged into the tv to act as the display ?
Cymek said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:I have a non-smart TV. When I signed up with Telstra as ISP, they sent me out a Roku device called Telstra TV, that connected the TV to the internet through apps in the box. That service is being cancelled in less than a month, and the Roku device will no longer work.
Trying to find something to replace it.
I can’t understand why all this cannot be done via a computer.
HDMI plugged into the tv to act as the display ?
yes, or wifi it.
been on and off rain all day. still, replaced a gpo in the shed that had a wonky switch on one of the outlets. also did all the updates on two laptops, one tablet and the desktop.
ChrispenEvan said:
Cymek said:
ChrispenEvan said:I can’t understand why all this cannot be done via a computer.
HDMI plugged into the tv to act as the display ?
yes, or wifi it.
How do I do that?
Cymek said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:I have a non-smart TV. When I signed up with Telstra as ISP, they sent me out a Roku device called Telstra TV, that connected the TV to the internet through apps in the box. That service is being cancelled in less than a month, and the Roku device will no longer work.
Trying to find something to replace it.
I can’t understand why all this cannot be done via a computer.
HDMI plugged into the tv to act as the display ?
How do I set that up?
Michael V said:
Cymek said:
Michael V said:They’ve got a very lengthy set of FAQs on their web site.
What is the point of it
Having everything run from the one box ?
This is for non smart TV’s ?
I have a non-smart TV. When I signed up with Telstra as ISP, they sent me out a Roku device called Telstra TV, that connected the TV to the internet through apps in the box. That service is being cancelled in less than a month, and the Roku device will no longer work.
Trying to find something to replace it.
And ours is a smart TV, but old enough that it doesn’t really do much. We were also provided with the Roku Telstra TV thing when we went wireless NBN with Telstra.
Michael V said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Cymek said:HDMI plugged into the tv to act as the display ?
yes, or wifi it.
How do I do that?
I was talking in general terms. If you tv doesn’t have wifi then it isn’t applicable to you. unless you get a wifi dongle for the tv and plug it into a usb port, if your tv has one of them.
Michael V said:
Cymek said:
ChrispenEvan said:I can’t understand why all this cannot be done via a computer.
HDMI plugged into the tv to act as the display ?
How do I set that up?
one end into tv the other into computer. set up computer for two screens making the tv one of them. i have two monitors like that.
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:
ChrispenEvan said:yes, or wifi it.
How do I do that?
I was talking in general terms. If you tv doesn’t have wifi then it isn’t applicable to you. unless you get a wifi dongle for the tv and plug it into a usb port, if your tv has one of them.
Pretty certain the TV has USB.
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:
ChrispenEvan said:yes, or wifi it.
How do I do that?
I was talking in general terms. If you tv doesn’t have wifi then it isn’t applicable to you. unless you get a wifi dongle for the tv and plug it into a usb port, if your tv has one of them.
Ta.
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:
Cymek said:HDMI plugged into the tv to act as the display ?
How do I set that up?
one end into tv the other into computer. set up computer for two screens making the tv one of them. i have two monitors like that.
Ta.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Cymek said:What is the point of it
Having everything run from the one box ?
This is for non smart TV’s ?
I have a non-smart TV. When I signed up with Telstra as ISP, they sent me out a Roku device called Telstra TV, that connected the TV to the internet through apps in the box. That service is being cancelled in less than a month, and the Roku device will no longer work.
Trying to find something to replace it.
And ours is a smart TV, but old enough that it doesn’t really do much. We were also provided with the Roku Telstra TV thing when we went wireless NBN with Telstra.
I haven’t followed this conversation from start to finish, but an Apple TV is a great option for this type of thing.
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:
Cymek said:What is the point of it
Having everything run from the one box ?
This is for non smart TV’s ?
I have a non-smart TV. When I signed up with Telstra as ISP, they sent me out a Roku device called Telstra TV, that connected the TV to the internet through apps in the box. That service is being cancelled in less than a month, and the Roku device will no longer work.
Trying to find something to replace it.
I can’t understand why all this cannot be done via a computer.
Like my Kodi box.
It plugs into the router and can play regular TV channels, all the videos on this pc, Youtube channels, and from other sources as well.
diddly-squat said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:I have a non-smart TV. When I signed up with Telstra as ISP, they sent me out a Roku device called Telstra TV, that connected the TV to the internet through apps in the box. That service is being cancelled in less than a month, and the Roku device will no longer work.
Trying to find something to replace it.
And ours is a smart TV, but old enough that it doesn’t really do much. We were also provided with the Roku Telstra TV thing when we went wireless NBN with Telstra.
I haven’t followed this conversation from start to finish, but an Apple TV is a great option for this type of thing.
Or a firestick, or a shield, or generic android box from Jaycar. Ive also got an ancient hdhomerun should I ever wish to watch free to air tv…
diddly-squat said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:I have a non-smart TV. When I signed up with Telstra as ISP, they sent me out a Roku device called Telstra TV, that connected the TV to the internet through apps in the box. That service is being cancelled in less than a month, and the Roku device will no longer work.
Trying to find something to replace it.
And ours is a smart TV, but old enough that it doesn’t really do much. We were also provided with the Roku Telstra TV thing when we went wireless NBN with Telstra.
I haven’t followed this conversation from start to finish, but an Apple TV is a great option for this type of thing.
Age pensioner – need to reduce costs.
Mr V,
They’ve been advertising these on the tele.
Watch some tutorials on Youtube such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfgzKHe3P6g
Or other youtubes.
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:
ChrispenEvan said:yes, or wifi it.
How do I do that?
I was talking in general terms. If you tv doesn’t have wifi then it isn’t applicable to you. unless you get a wifi dongle for the tv and plug it into a usb port, if your tv has one of them.
And then what…….. the dongle will have wifi, but the tele won’t.
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:How do I do that?
I was talking in general terms. If you tv doesn’t have wifi then it isn’t applicable to you. unless you get a wifi dongle for the tv and plug it into a usb port, if your tv has one of them.
And then what…….. the dongle will have wifi, but the tele won’t.
the dongle goes into the tele’s usb port.
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:I was talking in general terms. If you tv doesn’t have wifi then it isn’t applicable to you. unless you get a wifi dongle for the tv and plug it into a usb port, if your tv has one of them.
And then what…….. the dongle will have wifi, but the tele won’t.
the dongle goes into the tele’s usb port.
…….. and ……………..
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:And then what…….. the dongle will have wifi, but the tele won’t.
the dongle goes into the tele’s usb port.
…….. and ……………..
why won’t it work?
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:the dongle goes into the tele’s usb port.
…….. and ……………..
why won’t it work?
Presumably the television would need specific hardware to work with a wifi dongle, not just a USB port.
Woodie said:
Mr V,They’ve been advertising these on the tele.
Watch some tutorials on Youtube such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfgzKHe3P6g
Or other youtubes.
Please note, Mr V, a lot of those Hubbl Youtubes will go on about pay/subscriptions services. Take no notice of that gabble, and just note the “live TV” stuff and Iview/SBSOndemand etc use for these devices.
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:I was talking in general terms. If you tv doesn’t have wifi then it isn’t applicable to you. unless you get a wifi dongle for the tv and plug it into a usb port, if your tv has one of them.
And then what…….. the dongle will have wifi, but the tele won’t.
the dongle goes into the tele’s usb port.
Mr Evan, Sir,
You plug a wifi dongle into you pooter/laptop, how does it work? You need “drivers” for that partiular dongle installed on the pooter/laptop to make it work, and communicate with the pooter/laptop? Are the “drivers” on a tele? How do you install these drivers on your tele? Answer. No. and you can’t.
like that, bone-pointing syndrome, ya got boned, fella
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdaitcha
“…The expectation that death would result from having a bone pointed at a victim is not without foundation. Other similar rituals that cause death have been recorded around the world. Victims become listless and apathetic, usually refusing food or water with death often occurring within days of being “cursed”. When victims survive, it is assumed that the ritual was faulty in its execution. The phenomenon is recognised as psychosomatic in that death is caused by an emotional response—often fear—to some suggested outside force and is known as “voodoo death”. As this term refers to a specific religion, the medical establishment has suggested that “self-willed death”, or “bone-pointing syndrome” is more appropriate. In Australia, the practice is still common enough that hospitals and nursing staff are trained to manage illness caused by “bad spirits” and bone pointing..”
I’ve found that Palmolive dish washing liquid has more grease cutting power and is softer on your hands.
Cymek said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Michael V said:I have a non-smart TV. When I signed up with Telstra as ISP, they sent me out a Roku device called Telstra TV, that connected the TV to the internet through apps in the box. That service is being cancelled in less than a month, and the Roku device will no longer work.
Trying to find something to replace it.
I can’t understand why all this cannot be done via a computer.
HDMI plugged into the tv to act as the display ?
This is what I do fairly often. 5m HDMI cable for the laptop to the TV. Even though I have a smart TV, so some things I prefer the mouse and keyboard rather than using the TV remote. Laptop is on a special trolley by the armchair.
transition said:
like that, bone-pointing syndrome, ya got boned, fellahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdaitcha
“…The expectation that death would result from having a bone pointed at a victim is not without foundation. Other similar rituals that cause death have been recorded around the world. Victims become listless and apathetic, usually refusing food or water with death often occurring within days of being “cursed”. When victims survive, it is assumed that the ritual was faulty in its execution. The phenomenon is recognised as psychosomatic in that death is caused by an emotional response—often fear—to some suggested outside force and is known as “voodoo death”. As this term refers to a specific religion, the medical establishment has suggested that “self-willed death”, or “bone-pointing syndrome” is more appropriate. In Australia, the practice is still common enough that hospitals and nursing staff are trained to manage illness caused by “bad spirits” and bone pointing..”
so how do they manage it
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ve found that Palmolive dish washing liquid has more grease cutting power and is softer on your hands.
Madge taught you that many years ago.
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:And then what…….. the dongle will have wifi, but the tele won’t.
the dongle goes into the tele’s usb port.
Mr Evan, Sir,
You plug a wifi dongle into you pooter/laptop, how does it work? You need “drivers” for that partiular dongle installed on the pooter/laptop to make it work, and communicate with the pooter/laptop? Are the “drivers” on a tele? How do you install these drivers on your tele? Answer. No. and you can’t.
I don’t believe that all wifi adaptors need drivers installed. from what I can glean from online pages.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ve found that Palmolive dish washing liquid has more grease cutting power and is softer on your hands.
Yes, Madge………………..
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ve found that Palmolive dish washing liquid has more grease cutting power and is softer on your hands.
here’s one advert I remember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HomD924r_oo
Madge for Palmolive Dishwashing Liquid 1980s Advertisement Australia Commercial Ad
one I don’t remember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFlJikh0PY
Palmolive ad – 1978
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
ChrispenEvan said:I can’t understand why all this cannot be done via a computer.
HDMI plugged into the tv to act as the display ?
This is what I do fairly often. 5m HDMI cable for the laptop to the TV. Even though I have a smart TV, so some things I prefer the mouse and keyboard rather than using the TV remote. Laptop is on a special trolley by the armchair.
strikes us that the sales model for much of all this is reliant on people not choosing to move on past the 1970s into something more than 50 years later
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:the dongle goes into the tele’s usb port.
Mr Evan, Sir,
You plug a wifi dongle into you pooter/laptop, how does it work? You need “drivers” for that partiular dongle installed on the pooter/laptop to make it work, and communicate with the pooter/laptop? Are the “drivers” on a tele? How do you install these drivers on your tele? Answer. No. and you can’t.
I don’t believe that all wifi adaptors need drivers installed. from what I can glean from online pages.
……. and how do you set the IP address?
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:Mr Evan, Sir,
You plug a wifi dongle into you pooter/laptop, how does it work? You need “drivers” for that partiular dongle installed on the pooter/laptop to make it work, and communicate with the pooter/laptop? Are the “drivers” on a tele? How do you install these drivers on your tele? Answer. No. and you can’t.
I don’t believe that all wifi adaptors need drivers installed. from what I can glean from online pages.
……. and how do you set the IP address?
why would it need that using a usb port. as long as the puta and dongle talk then the tv is just seeing the dongle as another type of input. surely.
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:I don’t believe that all wifi adaptors need drivers installed. from what I can glean from online pages.
……. and how do you set the IP address?
why would it need that using a usb port. as long as the puta and dongle talk then the tv is just seeing the dongle as another type of input. surely.
For wifi, Mr Evan, with respect, each device needs an IP address, that is connected to you local wifi router. Your pooter has a IP address, and your tele will need one too.
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:……. and how do you set the IP address?
why would it need that using a usb port. as long as the puta and dongle talk then the tv is just seeing the dongle as another type of input. surely.
For wifi, Mr Evan, with respect, each device needs an IP address, that is connected to you local wifi router. Your pooter has a IP address, and your tele will need one too.
but you’re talking to the dongle not the tv. I’ve have used usb wifi dongles many years ago when my puta didn’t have wifi. never put in any ip addresses.
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:why would it need that using a usb port. as long as the puta and dongle talk then the tv is just seeing the dongle as another type of input. surely.
For wifi, Mr Evan, with respect, each device needs an IP address, that is connected to you local wifi router. Your pooter has a IP address, and your tele will need one too.
but you’re talking to the dongle not the tv. I’ve have used usb wifi dongles many years ago when my puta didn’t have wifi. never put in any ip addresses.
That’s because your POOTER has the IP address, not the dongle.
and besides…… you pooter has software/programs/apps that send/recive stuff over the wifi device. What software/programs/apps on your tele can receive/send stuff over and via the wifi dongle???
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:For wifi, Mr Evan, with respect, each device needs an IP address, that is connected to you local wifi router. Your pooter has a IP address, and your tele will need one too.
but you’re talking to the dongle not the tv. I’ve have used usb wifi dongles many years ago when my puta didn’t have wifi. never put in any ip addresses.
That’s because your POOTER has the IP address, not the dongle.
and besides…… you pooter has software/programs/apps that send/recive stuff over the wifi device. What software/programs/apps on your tele can receive/send stuff over and via the wifi dongle???
I don’t have a TV so I don’t know what they have available to them.
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:For wifi, Mr Evan, with respect, each device needs an IP address, that is connected to you local wifi router. Your pooter has a IP address, and your tele will need one too.
but you’re talking to the dongle not the tv. I’ve have used usb wifi dongles many years ago when my puta didn’t have wifi. never put in any ip addresses.
That’s because your POOTER has the IP address, not the dongle.
and besides…… you pooter has software/programs/apps that send/recive stuff over the wifi device. What software/programs/apps on your tele can receive/send stuff over and via the wifi dongle???
I think this stuff should be over in Tech Talk.
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:but you’re talking to the dongle not the tv. I’ve have used usb wifi dongles many years ago when my puta didn’t have wifi. never put in any ip addresses.
That’s because your POOTER has the IP address, not the dongle.
and besides…… you pooter has software/programs/apps that send/recive stuff over the wifi device. What software/programs/apps on your tele can receive/send stuff over and via the wifi dongle???
I think this stuff should be over in Tech Talk.
then again if we want a holistic approach scribbly would be the go.
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
ChrispenEvan said:but you’re talking to the dongle not the tv. I’ve have used usb wifi dongles many years ago when my puta didn’t have wifi. never put in any ip addresses.
That’s because your POOTER has the IP address, not the dongle.
and besides…… you pooter has software/programs/apps that send/recive stuff over the wifi device. What software/programs/apps on your tele can receive/send stuff over and via the wifi dongle???
I think this stuff should be over in Tech Talk.
is segregation really the answer?
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:That’s because your POOTER has the IP address, not the dongle.
and besides…… you pooter has software/programs/apps that send/recive stuff over the wifi device. What software/programs/apps on your tele can receive/send stuff over and via the wifi dongle???
I think this stuff should be over in Tech Talk.
is segregation really the answer?
Yes, I agree, we need a “what is plugged in to my tv/monitor” thread…
RangerJudy 3h
September 5: last night the nestlings were alone on the nest for a long time with Lady nearby- or on the nest some of the time. She was off early in the morning, then returned with some leaves and sat with them on the nest. Dad brought leaves in as well. Around 9am the magpie swooping began – with both eagles squonking at the swooper and chasing. The nestlings lie down flat when swooped, and at response to adults’ calls. At 11am, still waiting -then Lady delivered her eel meal and both fed well, with SE33 eating first. Both parents have brought leaves in, building up the nest bowl as the nestlings grow. 3pm both still sleeping in the warmth. Just after 3pm Lady brought a whiting and fed – 33 first then 34. She then brooded beside the stuffed nestlings. Then up again as Dad approached, with a magpie swooper. He tried to take the fish remains – Lady grabbed it – and started feeding 34 again, briefly, stopped when dad brought in a live gull chick. Lady grabbed it and started a feed, then took it off to defeather. Dad back to the nest and started eating leftovers – why not. He then started to feed the nestlings. Lady came back with the prepped gull though and he left –she continued feeding. Plenty to eat today.

sarahs mum said:
Makes one wonder where the ping ppong ball was.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Makes one wonder where the ping ppong ball was.
not paying Rupert. maybe our aBC will know.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Makes one wonder where the ping ppong ball was.
not paying Rupert. maybe our aBC will know.
Thae ABC hasn’t published the story. So Rupert probably made it a up?
Currently 18 degrees. Warmest night so far this spring.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Makes one wonder where the ping ppong ball was.
not paying Rupert. maybe our aBC will know.
Tasmanian paramedic sacked after callout to woman with ping pong ball stuck in body
A Tasmanian paramedic who was fired after he was accused of improperly removing a ping pong ball from a woman’s body has failed in his bid to be reinstated.
The incident occurred in the early hours of December 14, 2020, when a woman called ‘000’ from Old Beach just before 11pm on December 13.
The woman told the operator a ping pong ball was stuck in her vagina, but she was “pretty good” and “just laying there”.
The ambulance arrived at the woman’s house around 4:30am, almost six hours after the initial call for help.
The woman reportedly undressed and lay on the couch, where a female ambulance officer parted her labia.
The male paramedic, who is based out of New Norfolk, then inserted medical forceps into the patient’s vagina “to a sufficient depth to make contact with the ping pong ball”.
He then determined the ping pong ball could not be easily removed and the woman was transported to the Royal Hobart Hospital.
The paramedic was fired in June 2022, almost two years after the incident.
He told the Tasmanian Industrial Commission that he was only undertaking an examination to see if he could remove the object.
He said the woman had been adamant she didn’t want to go to hospital and had asked him to remove the ball instead.
The Commission found the officer was attempting to remove the object, without appropriate training and with an inappropriate instrument, which was outside his scope of practice.
It ruled this was a valid reason for termination and that the conduct was serious.
The Commission was not persuaded that the termination was unfair or unjust and dismissed the application for reinstatement.
https://pulsetasmania.com.au/news/tasmanian-paramedic-sacked-after-callout-to-woman-with-table-tennis-ball-stuck-in-body/
Bubblecar said:
The Commission found the officer was attempting to remove the object, without appropriate training and with an inappropriate instrument, which was outside his scope of practice.It ruled this was a valid reason for termination and that the conduct was serious.
The Commission was not persuaded that the termination was unfair or unjust and dismissed the application for reinstatement.
https://pulsetasmania.com.au/news/tasmanian-paramedic-sacked-after-callout-to-woman-with-table-tennis-ball-stuck-in-body/
One of those situations where one really should say: “Sorry lady, it’s more than my job’s worth.”
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 10 degrees at the back door, overcast and still. We are forecast 17 degrees and rain.
I have to take Bruna to the vet again this morning for checking. Her eye is quieter.
Rain also expected for most of the day this end and somewhat windy again.
About to prepare an all-B breakfast: boiled bratwurst, broad beans, bread & butter.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:Makes one wonder where the ping ppong ball was.
not paying Rupert. maybe our aBC will know.
Tasmanian paramedic sacked after callout to woman with ping pong ball stuck in body
A Tasmanian paramedic who was fired after he was accused of improperly removing a ping pong ball from a woman’s body has failed in his bid to be reinstated.
The incident occurred in the early hours of December 14, 2020, when a woman called ‘000’ from Old Beach just before 11pm on December 13.
The woman told the operator a ping pong ball was stuck in her vagina, but she was “pretty good” and “just laying there”.
The ambulance arrived at the woman’s house around 4:30am, almost six hours after the initial call for help.
The woman reportedly undressed and lay on the couch, where a female ambulance officer parted her labia.
The male paramedic, who is based out of New Norfolk, then inserted medical forceps into the patient’s vagina “to a sufficient depth to make contact with the ping pong ball”.
He then determined the ping pong ball could not be easily removed and the woman was transported to the Royal Hobart Hospital.
The paramedic was fired in June 2022, almost two years after the incident.
He told the Tasmanian Industrial Commission that he was only undertaking an examination to see if he could remove the object.
He said the woman had been adamant she didn’t want to go to hospital and had asked him to remove the ball instead.
The Commission found the officer was attempting to remove the object, without appropriate training and with an inappropriate instrument, which was outside his scope of practice.
It ruled this was a valid reason for termination and that the conduct was serious.
The Commission was not persuaded that the termination was unfair or unjust and dismissed the application for reinstatement.
https://pulsetasmania.com.au/news/tasmanian-paramedic-sacked-after-callout-to-woman-with-table-tennis-ball-stuck-in-body/
Hmm.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
The Commission found the officer was attempting to remove the object, without appropriate training and with an inappropriate instrument, which was outside his scope of practice.It ruled this was a valid reason for termination and that the conduct was serious.
The Commission was not persuaded that the termination was unfair or unjust and dismissed the application for reinstatement.
https://pulsetasmania.com.au/news/tasmanian-paramedic-sacked-after-callout-to-woman-with-table-tennis-ball-stuck-in-body/
One of those situations where one really should say: “Sorry lady, it’s more than my job’s worth.”
“We’ll get you to hospital straightaway”.
Morning pilgrims, not a lot to report, it’s fine and cold in the Pearl.
Over.
Nothing has changed. It is still 18 degrees, still 22km/h wind.
Weekly Quiz
Thought it was going to go badly when I got the first two wrong but it tailed off well. 
roughbarked said:
Weekly Quiz
Thought it was going to go badly when I got the first two wrong but it tailed off well.![]()
6/10. Seven guesses.
A rather impressive effort to not hit the airliners whilst crashing.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
Makes one wonder where the ping ppong ball was.
not paying Rupert. maybe our aBC will know.
Tasmanian paramedic sacked after callout to woman with ping pong ball stuck in body
A Tasmanian paramedic who was fired after he was accused of improperly removing a ping pong ball from a woman’s body has failed in his bid to be reinstated.
The incident occurred in the early hours of December 14, 2020, when a woman called ‘000’ from Old Beach just before 11pm on December 13.
The woman told the operator a ping pong ball was stuck in her vagina, but she was “pretty good” and “just laying there”.
The ambulance arrived at the woman’s house around 4:30am, almost six hours after the initial call for help.
The woman reportedly undressed and lay on the couch, where a female ambulance officer parted her labia.
The male paramedic, who is based out of New Norfolk, then inserted medical forceps into the patient’s vagina “to a sufficient depth to make contact with the ping pong ball”.
He then determined the ping pong ball could not be easily removed and the woman was transported to the Royal Hobart Hospital.
The paramedic was fired in June 2022, almost two years after the incident.
He told the Tasmanian Industrial Commission that he was only undertaking an examination to see if he could remove the object.
He said the woman had been adamant she didn’t want to go to hospital and had asked him to remove the ball instead.
The Commission found the officer was attempting to remove the object, without appropriate training and with an inappropriate instrument, which was outside his scope of practice.
It ruled this was a valid reason for termination and that the conduct was serious.
The Commission was not persuaded that the termination was unfair or unjust and dismissed the application for reinstatement.
https://pulsetasmania.com.au/news/tasmanian-paramedic-sacked-after-callout-to-woman-with-table-tennis-ball-stuck-in-body/
we thought laying meant the item was being expelled from the reproductive canal by the layer itself
Spiny Norman said:
A rather impressive effort to not hit the airliners whilst crashing.
Definitely.
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
not paying Rupert. maybe our aBC will know.
Tasmanian paramedic sacked after callout to woman with ping pong ball stuck in body
A Tasmanian paramedic who was fired after he was accused of improperly removing a ping pong ball from a woman’s body has failed in his bid to be reinstated.
The incident occurred in the early hours of December 14, 2020, when a woman called ‘000’ from Old Beach just before 11pm on December 13.
The woman told the operator a ping pong ball was stuck in her vagina, but she was “pretty good” and “just laying there”.
The ambulance arrived at the woman’s house around 4:30am, almost six hours after the initial call for help.
The woman reportedly undressed and lay on the couch, where a female ambulance officer parted her labia.
The male paramedic, who is based out of New Norfolk, then inserted medical forceps into the patient’s vagina “to a sufficient depth to make contact with the ping pong ball”.
He then determined the ping pong ball could not be easily removed and the woman was transported to the Royal Hobart Hospital.
The paramedic was fired in June 2022, almost two years after the incident.
He told the Tasmanian Industrial Commission that he was only undertaking an examination to see if he could remove the object.
He said the woman had been adamant she didn’t want to go to hospital and had asked him to remove the ball instead.
The Commission found the officer was attempting to remove the object, without appropriate training and with an inappropriate instrument, which was outside his scope of practice.
It ruled this was a valid reason for termination and that the conduct was serious.
The Commission was not persuaded that the termination was unfair or unjust and dismissed the application for reinstatement.
we thought laying meant the item was being expelled from the reproductive canal by the layer itself
see did this fella get disciplined for conducting experimental procedures with objects retrieved from the body, we think not
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2024-09-06/kidney-stones-carbon-dating-health/104217876
few rainlies happens now maybe gets started proper settle in, we’ll see, i’ll update late, a rain continuity report, or discontinuity report, and what lovely words are they, continuity and discontinuity, how about intermittent there’s a good word too
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
A rather impressive effort to not hit the airliners whilst crashing.Definitely.
nice work
sarahs mum said:
I hasn’t got a ping pong ball in my vagina
Couldn’t access here this morning, but I see all the rest of you were getting along fine without my help.
dear God am I going to be stuck indoors for hours, in the forum here, i’d rather go out and get wet and cold and risk getting struck by lightning
and I can imagine something thinking yes, go do that, go play with the electricity
The Rev Dodgson said:
Couldn’t access here this morning, but I see all the rest of you were getting along fine without my help.
It was down for me as well.
transition said:
dear God am I going to be stuck indoors for hours, in the forum here, i’d rather go out and get wet and cold and risk getting struck by lightningand I can imagine something thinking yes, go do that, go play with the electricity
even someone, somebody, a person
alright so i’m bit tired, couple girlfriends came around lastnight, demanding they are, played scrabble until early morning
The Rev Dodgson said:
Couldn’t access here this morning, but I see all the rest of you were getting along fine without my help.
No worries.
transition said:
dear God am I going to be stuck indoors for hours, in the forum here, i’d rather go out and get wet and cold and risk getting struck by lightningand I can imagine something thinking yes, go do that, go play with the electricity
You could chop some wood.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Couldn’t access here this morning, but I see all the rest of you were getting along fine without my help.It was down for me as well.
Well I’m glad it wasn’t just me :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Couldn’t access here this morning, but I see all the rest of you were getting along fine without my help.It was down for me as well.
Well I’m glad it wasn’t just me :)
I was in bed so don’t know whether it was up or down.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Weekly Quiz
Thought it was going to go badly when I got the first two wrong but it tailed off well.![]()
6/10. Seven guesses.
6/10 also.
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
I hasn’t got a ping pong ball in my vagina
We’ll be the judge of that.
ChrispenEvan said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:It was down for me as well.
Well I’m glad it wasn’t just me :)
I was in bed so don’t know whether it was up or down.
It hasn’t faltered hee. Though I’ve not been here all the time.
Hello
Cymek said:
Hello
Good morning.
Cymek said:
Hello
Greetings.
Former Liberal staffer Bruce Lehrmann has been given extra time to file amended grounds of appeal, as he seeks to overturn the result of his failed defamation case against Network Ten and Lisa Wilkinson.
remember I said yesterday that the parents of the school shooter in Georgia need to be ready for an arrest (based on the dangerous precedent that was set in Michigan with the Crumbley family?) well, today the shooters father was arrested and charged with various crimes including manslughter – for ‘knowingly allowing his son to have access to a weapon’.
Arts said:
remember I said yesterday that the parents of the school shooter in Georgia need to be ready for an arrest (based on the dangerous precedent that was set in Michigan with the Crumbley family?) well, today the shooters father was arrested and charged with various crimes including manslughter – for ‘knowingly allowing his son to have access to a weapon’.
Good. Should be more of it.
Arts said:
remember I said yesterday that the parents of the school shooter in Georgia need to be ready for an arrest (based on the dangerous precedent that was set in Michigan with the Crumbley family?) well, today the shooters father was arrested and charged with various crimes including manslughter – for ‘knowingly allowing his son to have access to a weapon’.
Good. And well done you.
Arts said:
remember I said yesterday that the parents of the school shooter in Georgia need to be ready for an arrest (based on the dangerous precedent that was set in Michigan with the Crumbley family?) well, today the shooters father was arrested and charged with various crimes including manslughter – for ‘knowingly allowing his son to have access to a weapon’.
Good, I think.
Arts said:
remember I said yesterday that the parents of the school shooter in Georgia need to be ready for an arrest (based on the dangerous precedent that was set in Michigan with the Crumbley family?) well, today the shooters father was arrested and charged with various crimes including manslughter – for ‘knowingly allowing his son to have access to a weapon’.
But the state government knowingly allows everyone access to weapons…
furious said:
Arts said:
remember I said yesterday that the parents of the school shooter in Georgia need to be ready for an arrest (based on the dangerous precedent that was set in Michigan with the Crumbley family?) well, today the shooters father was arrested and charged with various crimes including manslughter – for ‘knowingly allowing his son to have access to a weapon’.But the state government knowingly allows everyone access to weapons…
Blame shifting
What would happen I wonder if the parents were worried and asked for help but had “no insurance” so couldn’t access mental health services (assuming they exist)
furious said:
Arts said:
remember I said yesterday that the parents of the school shooter in Georgia need to be ready for an arrest (based on the dangerous precedent that was set in Michigan with the Crumbley family?) well, today the shooters father was arrested and charged with various crimes including manslughter – for ‘knowingly allowing his son to have access to a weapon’.But the state government knowingly allows everyone access to weapons…
apparently not if you are underage, but yes, there is a concealed carry law with licence but you do not need a license to purchase or own a firearm.
It is not ‘good’ to charge parents with offences committed by their children.. it leads to child abuse under the guise of ‘parenting’ as a way of protecting self from future ‘unseen’ events. .
Curlews abound at night in Townsville, quite spooky sounding.
Said a few words at the funeral but I forgot most of what I was going to say: I was crying the whole time so I suppose the audience got the take home message, “this bad”. My boy bore pall well.
My grandnieces and grandnephews have doubled in size since I last saw them and there’s a new one as well so it’s been good to catch up and do avuncular things such as shoulderrides etc.
7 year old grandniece is a warcrime: she was teasing my daughter about being pregnant, my daughter protested that she isn’t pregnant and doesn’t want a baby. Later the gn was sitting on d’s lap and I said “you have to be gentle, if she’s pregnant”, and gn said “she doesn’t want a baby so I’m killing it.” Absolutely brutal, you’re my favourite now.
Been fairly cloudy the whole time. Despite the fact that the Bureau has registered 0.0 in its tins, there has been a sprinkling of light rain, unusual for a TSV September.
Why isn’t there a single word meaning “nieces and nephews”? Quite anomalous.
Arts said:
furious said:
Arts said:
remember I said yesterday that the parents of the school shooter in Georgia need to be ready for an arrest (based on the dangerous precedent that was set in Michigan with the Crumbley family?) well, today the shooters father was arrested and charged with various crimes including manslughter – for ‘knowingly allowing his son to have access to a weapon’.But the state government knowingly allows everyone access to weapons…
apparently not if you are underage, but yes, there is a concealed carry law with licence but you do not need a license to purchase or own a firearm.
It is not ‘good’ to charge parents with offences committed by their children.. it leads to child abuse under the guise of ‘parenting’ as a way of protecting self from future ‘unseen’ events. .
Yes. That is a possiblity.
However it is really the state that’s at fault for not having stricter firearms purchasing legislation.
The seller should be more responsible.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
remember I said yesterday that the parents of the school shooter in Georgia need to be ready for an arrest (based on the dangerous precedent that was set in Michigan with the Crumbley family?) well, today the shooters father was arrested and charged with various crimes including manslughter – for ‘knowingly allowing his son to have access to a weapon’.Good. Should be more of it.
so more school shooting eh? you monster!!!
ChrispenEvan said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
remember I said yesterday that the parents of the school shooter in Georgia need to be ready for an arrest (based on the dangerous precedent that was set in Michigan with the Crumbley family?) well, today the shooters father was arrested and charged with various crimes including manslughter – for ‘knowingly allowing his son to have access to a weapon’.Good. Should be more of it.
so more school shooting eh? you monster!!!
I meant parental respponsibility in raising children either not to access weapons or at least some education in the use of weapon safety.
roughbarked said:
ChrispenEvan said:
roughbarked said:Good. Should be more of it.
so more school shooting eh? you monster!!!
I meant parental respponsibility in raising children either not to access weapons or at least some education in the use of weapon safety.
I know.
Arts said:
furious said:
Arts said:
remember I said yesterday that the parents of the school shooter in Georgia need to be ready for an arrest (based on the dangerous precedent that was set in Michigan with the Crumbley family?) well, today the shooters father was arrested and charged with various crimes including manslughter – for ‘knowingly allowing his son to have access to a weapon’.But the state government knowingly allows everyone access to weapons…
apparently not if you are underage, but yes, there is a concealed carry law with licence but you do not need a license to purchase or own a firearm.
It is not ‘good’ to charge parents with offences committed by their children.. it leads to child abuse under the guise of ‘parenting’ as a way of protecting self from future ‘unseen’ events. .
but isn’t the premise less about the act committed by the child but instead in the negligence committed by the parent
dv said:
Curlews abound at night in Townsville, quite spooky sounding.
Said a few words at the funeral but I forgot most of what I was going to say: I was crying the whole time so I suppose the audience got the take home message, “this bad”. My boy bore pall well.My grandnieces and grandnephews have doubled in size since I last saw them and there’s a new one as well so it’s been good to catch up and do avuncular things such as shoulderrides etc.
7 year old grandniece is a warcrime: she was teasing my daughter about being pregnant, my daughter protested that she isn’t pregnant and doesn’t want a baby. Later the gn was sitting on d’s lap and I said “you have to be gentle, if she’s pregnant”, and gn said “she doesn’t want a baby so I’m killing it.” Absolutely brutal, you’re my favourite now.Been fairly cloudy the whole time. Despite the fact that the Bureau has registered 0.0 in its tins, there has been a sprinkling of light rain, unusual for a TSV September.
Why isn’t there a single word meaning “nieces and nephews”? Quite anomalous.
From Stackexchange:
You will find “nibling”, by analogy with sibling. (But it is mentioned only in the “New Words & Slang” section of Merriam-Webster, or in sites like urbandictionary.com)
In this Yahoo answers thread, KISS = Keep It Simple, Stupid’s answer also mentions:
that there is no encompassing word for aunt/uncle either that there is no male/female form of cousin.The article “There isn’t a word for it” (by Neville Goodman, British Journal of General Practice, 2005) also confirms that there is no word for nephews and nieces, and makes the following (humorous) suggestions:
The word sibling comes from Old English, and just means related by blood. I suggest taking the parental ‘p’ to replace the ‘s’, so aunts and uncles are ‘piblings’. Following the pattern, nephews and nieces become ‘niblings’, a nice word that describes what they do to their piblings’ bank balances at Christmas and birthdays.diddly-squat said:
but isn’t the premise less about the act committed by the child but instead in the negligence committed by the parent
I’ve owned more than a couple of guns over the years. But, making them secure has always been a priority.
It used to be (in NSW, at least) that, if you owned more than 1 pistol, you HAD TO keep them in a safe which was secured to the floor of the house. Don’t ask me why ‘more than one’, all i know is that that was the law at the time.
I never had more than one pistol at a time, but i would break it down into its parts (typically, three or more separate pieces), and they would be stored in different parts of the house, at least one piece, and often two, inside locked spaces.
Bolt action rifle: kept in locked space, remove bolt, store separately.
Semi-auto rifle: kept in locked space, fitted with trigger lock, removable magazine stored separately.
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:
furious said:But the state government knowingly allows everyone access to weapons…
apparently not if you are underage, but yes, there is a concealed carry law with licence but you do not need a license to purchase or own a firearm.
It is not ‘good’ to charge parents with offences committed by their children.. it leads to child abuse under the guise of ‘parenting’ as a way of protecting self from future ‘unseen’ events. .
but isn’t the premise less about the act committed by the child but instead in the negligence committed by the parent
negligence is not a finite term… it can be manipulated. It could be considered just as negligent to have the key to the alcohol cabinet accessible to a teenager who drinks then gets in a car and drives it into a park with children playing. The argument is about the precedent it sets… it’s dangerous
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:but isn’t the premise less about the act committed by the child but instead in the negligence committed by the parent
I’ve owned more than a couple of guns over the years. But, making them secure has always been a priority.
It used to be (in NSW, at least) that, if you owned more than 1 pistol, you HAD TO keep them in a safe which was secured to the floor of the house. Don’t ask me why ‘more than one’, all i know is that that was the law at the time.
I never had more than one pistol at a time, but i would break it down into its parts (typically, three or more separate pieces), and they would be stored in different parts of the house, at least one piece, and often two, inside locked spaces.
Bolt action rifle: kept in locked space, remove bolt, store separately.
Semi-auto rifle: kept in locked space, fitted with trigger lock, removable magazine stored separately.
that sort of sense doesn’t work in a place where firearms for protection are acceptable.. the stand your ground laws do not allow for time to reassemble a weapon.. they are an instant protection of casa..
it makes sense to have weapon and ammunition stored in separate locked areas…
It makes sense to put some sort of licensing around ammunition supply and purchase…
but all that falls flat when you can legally make your own ammunition.. and there is little regulation once the weapon is purchased.
dv said:
Curlews abound at night in Townsville, quite spooky sounding.
Said a few words at the funeral but I forgot most of what I was going to say: I was crying the whole time so I suppose the audience got the take home message, “this bad”. My boy bore pall well.My grandnieces and grandnephews have doubled in size since I last saw them and there’s a new one as well so it’s been good to catch up and do avuncular things such as shoulderrides etc.
7 year old grandniece is a warcrime: she was teasing my daughter about being pregnant, my daughter protested that she isn’t pregnant and doesn’t want a baby. Later the gn was sitting on d’s lap and I said “you have to be gentle, if she’s pregnant”, and gn said “she doesn’t want a baby so I’m killing it.” Absolutely brutal, you’re my favourite now.Been fairly cloudy the whole time. Despite the fact that the Bureau has registered 0.0 in its tins, there has been a sprinkling of light rain, unusual for a TSV September.
Why isn’t there a single word meaning “nieces and nephews”? Quite anomalous.
sorry about the times. Glad there were good bits.
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:apparently not if you are underage, but yes, there is a concealed carry law with licence but you do not need a license to purchase or own a firearm.
It is not ‘good’ to charge parents with offences committed by their children.. it leads to child abuse under the guise of ‘parenting’ as a way of protecting self from future ‘unseen’ events. .
but isn’t the premise less about the act committed by the child but instead in the negligence committed by the parent
negligence is not a finite term… it can be manipulated. It could be considered just as negligent to have the key to the alcohol cabinet accessible to a teenager who drinks then gets in a car and drives it into a park with children playing. The argument is about the precedent it sets… it’s dangerous
I get it.. but presumably it’s possible to construct a charge whereby the parent isn’t responsible for the death of the people killed in the shooting but instead suggests their negligent behavior resulted in a minor having control over a firearm (who by no other means could have procured this firearm).
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Curlews abound at night in Townsville, quite spooky sounding.
Said a few words at the funeral but I forgot most of what I was going to say: I was crying the whole time so I suppose the audience got the take home message, “this bad”. My boy bore pall well.My grandnieces and grandnephews have doubled in size since I last saw them and there’s a new one as well so it’s been good to catch up and do avuncular things such as shoulderrides etc.
7 year old grandniece is a warcrime: she was teasing my daughter about being pregnant, my daughter protested that she isn’t pregnant and doesn’t want a baby. Later the gn was sitting on d’s lap and I said “you have to be gentle, if she’s pregnant”, and gn said “she doesn’t want a baby so I’m killing it.” Absolutely brutal, you’re my favourite now.Been fairly cloudy the whole time. Despite the fact that the Bureau has registered 0.0 in its tins, there has been a sprinkling of light rain, unusual for a TSV September.
Why isn’t there a single word meaning “nieces and nephews”? Quite anomalous.
sorry about the times. Glad there were good bits.
+1.
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:but isn’t the premise less about the act committed by the child but instead in the negligence committed by the parent
I’ve owned more than a couple of guns over the years. But, making them secure has always been a priority.
It used to be (in NSW, at least) that, if you owned more than 1 pistol, you HAD TO keep them in a safe which was secured to the floor of the house. Don’t ask me why ‘more than one’, all i know is that that was the law at the time.
I never had more than one pistol at a time, but i would break it down into its parts (typically, three or more separate pieces), and they would be stored in different parts of the house, at least one piece, and often two, inside locked spaces.
Bolt action rifle: kept in locked space, remove bolt, store separately.
Semi-auto rifle: kept in locked space, fitted with trigger lock, removable magazine stored separately.
Usual safety practices.
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:but isn’t the premise less about the act committed by the child but instead in the negligence committed by the parent
I’ve owned more than a couple of guns over the years. But, making them secure has always been a priority.
It used to be (in NSW, at least) that, if you owned more than 1 pistol, you HAD TO keep them in a safe which was secured to the floor of the house. Don’t ask me why ‘more than one’, all i know is that that was the law at the time.
I never had more than one pistol at a time, but i would break it down into its parts (typically, three or more separate pieces), and they would be stored in different parts of the house, at least one piece, and often two, inside locked spaces.
Bolt action rifle: kept in locked space, remove bolt, store separately.
Semi-auto rifle: kept in locked space, fitted with trigger lock, removable magazine stored separately.
that sort of sense doesn’t work in a place where firearms for protection are acceptable.. the stand your ground laws do not allow for time to reassemble a weapon.. they are an instant protection of casa..
it makes sense to have weapon and ammunition stored in separate locked areas…
It makes sense to put some sort of licensing around ammunition supply and purchase…but all that falls flat when you can legally make your own ammunition.. and there is little regulation once the weapon is purchased.
Some can make their own guns.
dv said:
Curlews abound at night in Townsville, quite spooky sounding.
Said a few words at the funeral but I forgot most of what I was going to say: I was crying the whole time so I suppose the audience got the take home message, “this bad”. My boy bore pall well.My grandnieces and grandnephews have doubled in size since I last saw them and there’s a new one as well so it’s been good to catch up and do avuncular things such as shoulderrides etc.
7 year old grandniece is a warcrime: she was teasing my daughter about being pregnant, my daughter protested that she isn’t pregnant and doesn’t want a baby. Later the gn was sitting on d’s lap and I said “you have to be gentle, if she’s pregnant”, and gn said “she doesn’t want a baby so I’m killing it.” Absolutely brutal, you’re my favourite now.Been fairly cloudy the whole time. Despite the fact that the Bureau has registered 0.0 in its tins, there has been a sprinkling of light rain, unusual for a TSV September.
Why isn’t there a single word meaning “nieces and nephews”? Quite anomalous.
There is, it’s n’e‘s.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Curlews abound at night in Townsville, quite spooky sounding.
Said a few words at the funeral but I forgot most of what I was going to say: I was crying the whole time so I suppose the audience got the take home message, “this bad”. My boy bore pall well.My grandnieces and grandnephews have doubled in size since I last saw them and there’s a new one as well so it’s been good to catch up and do avuncular things such as shoulderrides etc.
7 year old grandniece is a warcrime: she was teasing my daughter about being pregnant, my daughter protested that she isn’t pregnant and doesn’t want a baby. Later the gn was sitting on d’s lap and I said “you have to be gentle, if she’s pregnant”, and gn said “she doesn’t want a baby so I’m killing it.” Absolutely brutal, you’re my favourite now.Been fairly cloudy the whole time. Despite the fact that the Bureau has registered 0.0 in its tins, there has been a sprinkling of light rain, unusual for a TSV September.
Why isn’t there a single word meaning “nieces and nephews”? Quite anomalous.
sorry about the times. Glad there were good bits.
+1.
+1.
Arts said:
furious said:
Arts said:
remember I said yesterday that the parents of the school shooter in Georgia need to be ready for an arrest (based on the dangerous precedent that was set in Michigan with the Crumbley family?) well, today the shooters father was arrested and charged with various crimes including manslughter – for ‘knowingly allowing his son to have access to a weapon’.
But the state government knowingly allows everyone access to weapons…
apparently not if you are underage, but yes, there is a concealed carry law with licence but you do not need a license to purchase or own a firearm.
It is not ‘good’ to charge parents with offences committed by their children.. it leads to child abuse under the guise of ‘parenting’ as a way of protecting self from future ‘unseen’ events. .
what if you make child abuse a crime
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:
apparently not if you are underage, but yes, there is a concealed carry law with licence but you do not need a license to purchase or own a firearm.
It is not ‘good’ to charge parents with offences committed by their children.. it leads to child abuse under the guise of ‘parenting’ as a way of protecting self from future ‘unseen’ events. .
but isn’t the premise less about the act committed by the child but instead in the negligence committed by the parent
negligence is not a finite term… it can be manipulated. It could be considered just as negligent to have the key to the alcohol cabinet accessible to a teenager who drinks then gets in a car and drives it into a park with children playing. The argument is about the precedent it sets… it’s dangerous
so which slope is slipperier, the spiral slide of crime or the escalating spiral of enforcement
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
furious said:
But the state government knowingly allows everyone access to weapons…
apparently not if you are underage, but yes, there is a concealed carry law with licence but you do not need a license to purchase or own a firearm.
It is not ‘good’ to charge parents with offences committed by their children.. it leads to child abuse under the guise of ‘parenting’ as a way of protecting self from future ‘unseen’ events. .
what if you make child abuse a crime
Ha!
Going to order some of these fine model figures
Using 3D scanning, they’re far better than any previous small scale model figures. A huge range available in many scales.
The tallest men in the group below for example, are just over 2cm tall in the scale I’m working in (00, 1:76), but beautifully detailed.

Bubblecar said:
Going to order some of these fine model figuresUsing 3D scanning, they’re far better than any previous small scale model figures. A huge range available in many scales.
The tallest men in the group below for example, are just over 2cm tall in the scale I’m working in (00, 1:76), but beautifully detailed.
You have to paint them yourself but that’s fun.
This person’s hand holding these figures gives an idea of the size and quality.

Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Going to order some of these fine model figuresUsing 3D scanning, they’re far better than any previous small scale model figures. A huge range available in many scales.
The tallest men in the group below for example, are just over 2cm tall in the scale I’m working in (00, 1:76), but beautifully detailed.
You have to paint them yourself but that’s fun.
This person’s hand holding these figures gives an idea of the size and quality.
Do they come painted or is that your handiwork?
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Going to order some of these fine model figuresUsing 3D scanning, they’re far better than any previous small scale model figures. A huge range available in many scales.
The tallest men in the group below for example, are just over 2cm tall in the scale I’m working in (00, 1:76), but beautifully detailed.
You have to paint them yourself but that’s fun.
This person’s hand holding these figures gives an idea of the size and quality.
Do they come painted or is that your handiwork?
As I said above, “You have to paint them yourself…” The ones above were painted to special order by an experienced modeller.
I haven’t ordered any yet, but I used to be good at painting model figures and presumably still am :)
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Going to order some of these fine model figuresUsing 3D scanning, they’re far better than any previous small scale model figures. A huge range available in many scales.
The tallest men in the group below for example, are just over 2cm tall in the scale I’m working in (00, 1:76), but beautifully detailed.
You have to paint them yourself but that’s fun.
This person’s hand holding these figures gives an idea of the size and quality.
I’ve got a big collection of D & D lead figurines. I spent a long time painting them. Very enjoyable. There are a couple of pack horses that were a joy to paint.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:You have to paint them yourself but that’s fun.
This person’s hand holding these figures gives an idea of the size and quality.
Do they come painted or is that your handiwork?
As I said above, “You have to paint them yourself…” The ones above were painted to special order by an experienced modeller.
I haven’t ordered any yet, but I used to be good at painting model figures and presumably still am :)
If you don’t use it you lose it, does actually matter as we age. However it also stands true that once learned, the skill isn’t forgotten.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Going to order some of these fine model figuresUsing 3D scanning, they’re far better than any previous small scale model figures. A huge range available in many scales.
The tallest men in the group below for example, are just over 2cm tall in the scale I’m working in (00, 1:76), but beautifully detailed.
You have to paint them yourself but that’s fun.
This person’s hand holding these figures gives an idea of the size and quality.
I’ve got a big collection of D & D lead figurines. I spent a long time painting them. Very enjoyable. There are a couple of pack horses that were a joy to paint.
:)
There are various farm animals, pets and a few horses in the Modelu range.
anyway,, this is allegedly Vance today telling people that school shootings are just a fact of life…

Arts said:
anyway,, this is allegedly Vance today telling people that school shootings are just a fact of life…
The bullet proof shielding is just for aesthetics
Cymek said:
Arts said:
anyway,, this is allegedly Vance today telling people that school shootings are just a fact of life…
The bullet proof shielding is just for aesthetics
It’s for his HUD, so he can read his speech…
Ian said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
I hasn’t got a ping pong ball in my vagina
We’ll be the judge of that.
chuckle
I see Michel Barnier has been announced as France’s new PM, a good solid right winger.
Well, that’s the washing up done, and Mrs V’s sewing machine serviced.
Peak Warming Man said:
I see Michel Barnier has been announced as France’s new PM, a good solid right winger.
It’s a stunning political comeback, apparently.
I took PWM’s advise, got around to cutting some wood, too long logs etc sitting around didn’t or wouldn’t fit in slow combustion heaters
and did I mention how impressed I am with my grind angles I use to get around worn cutter bar, makes it indifferent to how worn etc
did I tell you how good I am, intuited that, used me native geometry etc, how good is fig jam
https://theconversation.com/elle-macphersons-breast-cancer-when-the-media-reports-on-celebrity-cancer-are-we-really-getting-the-whole-story-238231
4.8mm rain, don’t expect much more but will have look at satellite images etc
a drought I tells ya
sees crops pushes up to make the seeds hurriedly
ABC News:


“The 14 accused members of the religious group are representing themselves…”
Alt. version:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are going up the river. A long, long way up the river.”
ChrispenEvan said:
https://theconversation.com/elle-macphersons-breast-cancer-when-the-media-reports-on-celebrity-cancer-are-we-really-getting-the-whole-story-238231
I read that yesterday and was going to make a post here since there was conversation about it earlier.. but then I got distracted…
but it’s interesting that ‘non traditional’ wholistic often has a hidden agenda of some traditional surgical intervention…
I have a friend whose sister had a brain tumour, then some guru was coming to Perth to present and he espoused his holiness and alternative therapyness on facebook, which i commented on (not positively) and got yelled at by him saying how this guru had cured his sisters brain tumour.. so my final post before blocking him was “you mean the one that was removed by surgeons?”
I saw him a few years later and he was all pleasant to me.. I think his Nimbin lifestyle had an effect on his memory
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are representing themselves…”
Alt. version:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are going up the river. A long, long way up the river.”
I like the way the artist just scribbled the people behind them,,,
transition said:
4.8mm rain, don’t expect much more but will have look at satellite images etca drought I tells ya
sees crops pushes up to make the seeds hurriedly
some that 4.8mm is from previous, conversation with lady indicates
maybe little shower or drizzle later for while, in half hour or so, not much in it though doubtful about the possible likely possibility of the likeliness of that
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are representing themselves…”
Alt. version:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are going up the river. A long, long way up the river.”
It will all be about them not the poor little girl.
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are representing themselves…”
Alt. version:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are going up the river. A long, long way up the river.”
I like the way the artist just scribbled the people behind them,,,
It’s not like the cover of Sgt. Pepper’s, but it serves the purpose.
Arts said:
ChrispenEvan said:
https://theconversation.com/elle-macphersons-breast-cancer-when-the-media-reports-on-celebrity-cancer-are-we-really-getting-the-whole-story-238231I read that yesterday and was going to make a post here since there was conversation about it earlier.. but then I got distracted…
but it’s interesting that ‘non traditional’ wholistic often has a hidden agenda of some traditional surgical intervention…
I have a friend whose sister had a brain tumour, then some guru was coming to Perth to present and he espoused his holiness and alternative therapyness on facebook, which i commented on (not positively) and got yelled at by him saying how this guru had cured his sisters brain tumour.. so my final post before blocking him was “you mean the one that was removed by surgeons?”
I saw him a few years later and he was all pleasant to me.. I think his Nimbin lifestyle had an effect on his memory
Hehe
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are representing themselves…”
Alt. version:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are going up the river. A long, long way up the river.”
It will all be about them not the poor little girl.
These outrageous claims always seems to be accepted at some tokenistic level of mysticism or miracle by the believers
Someone once probably just said this and they ran with it.
So after she is resurrected, is she hidden away so no one can examine her to see how it happened.
She has a death certificate, is this just rescinded
She will be behind at school so how does she catch up
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are representing themselves…”
Alt. version:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are going up the river. A long, long way up the river.”
I like the way the artist just scribbled the people behind them,,,
Half-heartedly started a face on one of them but then thought “Nah fuck that, there’s no time.”
Arts said:
ChrispenEvan said:
https://theconversation.com/elle-macphersons-breast-cancer-when-the-media-reports-on-celebrity-cancer-are-we-really-getting-the-whole-story-238231I read that yesterday and was going to make a post here since there was conversation about it earlier.. but then I got distracted…
but it’s interesting that ‘non traditional’ wholistic often has a hidden agenda of some traditional surgical intervention…
I have a friend whose sister had a brain tumour, then some guru was coming to Perth to present and he espoused his holiness and alternative therapyness on facebook, which i commented on (not positively) and got yelled at by him saying how this guru had cured his sisters brain tumour.. so my final post before blocking him was “you mean the one that was removed by surgeons?”
I saw him a few years later and he was all pleasant to me.. I think his Nimbin lifestyle had an effect on his memory
>>>>>>>>>>> saying how this guru had cured his sisters brain tumour.. so my final post before blocking him was “you mean the one that was removed by surgeons?”
LOLOL
Looks like the wind and rain might be moderating in the next few hours, so I suppose the question will then be: “Should I venture out for Friday night wine supplies?”
Bubblecar said:
Looks like the wind and rain might be moderating in the next few hours, so I suppose the question will then be: “Should I venture out for Friday night wine supplies?”
Get some crisps too.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Looks like the wind and rain might be moderating in the next few hours, so I suppose the question will then be: “Should I venture out for Friday night wine supplies?”
Get some crisps too.

Bubblecar said:
Looks like the wind and rain might be moderating in the next few hours, so I suppose the question will then be: “Should I venture out for Friday night wine supplies?”
Only if the wind and rain moderate.
Having just walked the dog, I thought I’d post this here rather than the music thread.
The overcast of this morning has completely dispersed and it is now a nice sunny day with a beautiful temperature of 23.3° C. It got to 23.5° C about two hours back.
what sort of errr does that

transition said:
what sort of errr does that
Is that the local tip.
Cymek said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are representing themselves…”
Alt. version:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are going up the river. A long, long way up the river.”
It will all be about them not the poor little girl.
These outrageous claims always seems to be accepted at some tokenistic level of mysticism or miracle by the believers
Someone once probably just said this and they ran with it.
So after she is resurrected, is she hidden away so no one can examine her to see how it happened.
She has a death certificate, is this just rescinded
She will be behind at school so how does she catch up
There are nutters born every minute, and for some reason, they all live.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
what sort of errr does that
Is that the local tip.
yeah about five the bins full shit should go elsewhere, someone had a clean out maybe, moved house we reckons, have an idea who, a possible
done while unattended, possibly went over the fence with it
of course garbage truck comes over to load that won’t, wont take it like that, I doubt
Bubblecar said:
Looks like the wind and rain might be moderating in the next few hours, so I suppose the question will then be: “Should I venture out for Friday night wine supplies?”
You could venture out for Friday afternoon wines supplies instead.
Arts said:
anyway,, this is allegedly Vance today telling people that school shootings are just a fact of life…
What a dork.
Cymek said:
Arts said:
anyway,, this is allegedly Vance today telling people that school shootings are just a fact of life…
The bullet proof shielding is just for aesthetics
A bazooka would make a mess of it.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Looks like the wind and rain might be moderating in the next few hours, so I suppose the question will then be: “Should I venture out for Friday night wine supplies?”
Get some crisps too.
Family sized pack of cheese and onion. Will go with the wine.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are representing themselves…”
Alt. version:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are going up the river. A long, long way up the river.”
and it won’t be to the land of milk and honey.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
anyway,, this is allegedly Vance today telling people that school shootings are just a fact of life…
What a dork.
In a way it is. But they choose it to be so.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
anyway,, this is allegedly Vance today telling people that school shootings are just a fact of life…
What a dork.
In a way it is. But they choose it to be so.
Being a deliberate dork only makes it silly.
Cymek said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are representing themselves…”
Alt. version:
“The 14 accused members of the religious group are going up the river. A long, long way up the river.”
It will all be about them not the poor little girl.
These outrageous claims always seems to be accepted at some tokenistic level of mysticism or miracle by the believers
Someone once probably just said this and they ran with it.
So after she is resurrected, is she hidden away so no one can examine her to see how it happened.
She has a death certificate, is this just rescinded
She will be behind at school so how does she catch up
shrug worked for that fella 2000 years ago there’s still books written about it now shrug
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It will all be about them not the poor little girl.
These outrageous claims always seems to be accepted at some tokenistic level of mysticism or miracle by the believers
Someone once probably just said this and they ran with it.
So after she is resurrected, is she hidden away so no one can examine her to see how it happened.
She has a death certificate, is this just rescinded
She will be behind at school so how does she catch up
shrug worked for that fella 2000 years ago there’s still books written about it now shrug
The story could have been much embellished over two millenia.
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It will all be about them not the poor little girl.
These outrageous claims always seems to be accepted at some tokenistic level of mysticism or miracle by the believers
Someone once probably just said this and they ran with it.
So after she is resurrected, is she hidden away so no one can examine her to see how it happened.
She has a death certificate, is this just rescinded
She will be behind at school so how does she catch up
shrug worked for that fella 2000 years ago there’s still books written about it now shrug
That is exactly what I mean, heaven is just some abstract concept.
Supposedly you are reunited with loved ones.
It works well for loving families who are functional
Are you still you (personality wise, memories, etc) obviously your physical original body is gone.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
These outrageous claims always seems to be accepted at some tokenistic level of mysticism or miracle by the believers
Someone once probably just said this and they ran with it.
So after she is resurrected, is she hidden away so no one can examine her to see how it happened.
She has a death certificate, is this just rescinded
She will be behind at school so how does she catch up
shrug worked for that fella 2000 years ago there’s still books written about it now shrug
The story could have been much embellished over two millenia.
no way you can’t prove that it didn’t happen
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
shrug worked for that fella 2000 years ago there’s still books written about it now shrug
The story could have been much embellished over two millenia.
no way you can’t prove that it didn’t happen
Not trying. ;)
Only said ‘could have’. not blamin’ no wun.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Looks like the wind and rain might be moderating in the next few hours, so I suppose the question will then be: “Should I venture out for Friday night wine supplies?”
Get some crisps too.
Family sized pack of cheese and onion. Will go with the wine.
:)
Weather’s still rather hectic out there, but the BWS is open until 9 tonight. And the IGA is open until 7.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Having just walked the dog, I thought I’d post this here rather than the music thread.
Pleasant song but rather premature for this island.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Get some crisps too.
Family sized pack of cheese and onion. Will go with the wine.
:)
Weather’s still rather hectic out there, but the BWS is open until 9 tonight. And the IGA is open until 7.
30 degrees and 60km/h winds here. The garden looks shrivelled.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Having just walked the dog, I thought I’d post this here rather than the music thread.Pleasant song but rather premature for this island.
30 in Sydney today :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Having just walked the dog, I thought I’d post this here rather than the music thread.
Pleasant ditty.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Having just walked the dog, I thought I’d post this here rather than the music thread.Pleasant song but rather premature for this island.
30 in Sydney today :)
Cold, windy and rainy here, but nothing like in Tassie. Our Tassie-ites here would probably call it a pleasant spring day.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Having just walked the dog, I thought I’d post this here rather than the music thread.Pleasant song but rather premature for this island.
30 in Sydney today :)
Yes spring is definitely on.
That film in the video was shot in autumn.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:Pleasant song but rather premature for this island.
30 in Sydney today :)
Cold, windy and rainy here, but nothing like in Tassie. Our Tassie-ites here would probably call it a pleasant spring day.
Sick of the rain yet? It doesn’t seem that long ago WAliens were coomplaining about it being too dry.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Having just walked the dog, I thought I’d post this here rather than the music thread.
Your voice is ok but you need to work on your videoing.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:30 in Sydney today :)
Cold, windy and rainy here, but nothing like in Tassie. Our Tassie-ites here would probably call it a pleasant spring day.
Sick of the rain yet? It doesn’t seem that long ago WAliens were coomplaining about it being too dry.
Not really. We’ve got the most of it I reckon, in a couple of weeks time it will be glorious spring weather. September/October is a great time of year here. I reckon we’re almost done with winter now, arrived late but was a fairly decent one. We really do get most of our rain over about 4 months of the year, the rest tends to be quite dry. Typical Csa climate.
while up at mummy’s

dinner being made, top secret, or you don’t deserve to know, you choose
transition said:
while up at mummy’s
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dinner being made, top secret, or you don’t deserve to know, you choose
Parrot soup followed by bird on a stick.
The 2026 census questions on gender and sexual orientation that have been at the centre of a political brawl for the past week have been revealed to the ABC, despite the Albanese government declining to release the details.
The ABC has learned the exact wording of the questions that had been under development by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), in conjunction with an expert panel from the LGBTQI+ community, for some months after extensive public consultation revealed an interest in more details on these issues.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
while up at mummy’s
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dinner being made, top secret, or you don’t deserve to know, you choose
Parrot soup followed by bird on a stick.
don’t tell anyone
Heard the news some, unimpressed I be.
Rapist still walking around freely.
A Senator still harrassing a rape victim.
Someone from an organisation that segregates themselves into separate genders and then complains about sexual diversity and abortion, coming over here.
Government spending 4.7 billion on Domestic Violence without addressing the need for adults to be emotionally intelligent enough to be able handle an argument without resorting to violence.
Raining.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Heard the news some, unimpressed I be.Rapist still walking around freely.
A Senator still harrassing a rape victim.
Someone from an organisation that segregates themselves into separate genders and then complains about sexual diversity and abortion, coming over here.
Government spending 4.7 billion on Domestic Violence without addressing the need for adults to be emotionally intelligent enough to be able handle an argument without resorting to violence.
Raining.
I wonder if it is too late by the time they are an adult.
Requires a effort most people cannot or will not put in.
Needs an entire life rethink and behaviour change.
Its also not just a government responsibility
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
while up at mummy’s
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dinner being made, top secret, or you don’t deserve to know, you choose
Parrot soup followed by bird on a stick.
what flavour is it?
Cymek said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Heard the news some, unimpressed I be.Rapist still walking around freely.
A Senator still harrassing a rape victim.
Someone from an organisation that segregates themselves into separate genders and then complains about sexual diversity and abortion, coming over here.
Government spending 4.7 billion on Domestic Violence without addressing the need for adults to be emotionally intelligent enough to be able handle an argument without resorting to violence.
Raining.
I wonder if it is too late by the time they are an adult.
Requires a effort most people cannot or will not put in.
Needs an entire life rethink and behaviour change.
Its also not just a government responsibility
Alcohol and drugs and emotional immaturity seen to cause a large number of them.
Pre-learned or witnessed behaviour when young probably creates the subconscious idea its normal.
The government, courts, corrective services, relationship counselling, rehab, prisons all do try hard I think
I imagine changing behaviour is not easy even if determined if your life is in the toilet for whatever reason.
Cymek said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Heard the news some, unimpressed I be.Rapist still walking around freely.
A Senator still harrassing a rape victim.
Someone from an organisation that segregates themselves into separate genders and then complains about sexual diversity and abortion, coming over here.
Government spending 4.7 billion on Domestic Violence without addressing the need for adults to be emotionally intelligent enough to be able handle an argument without resorting to violence.
Raining.
I wonder if it is too late by the time they are an adult.
Requires a effort most people cannot or will not put in.
Needs an entire life rethink and behaviour change.
Its also not just a government responsibility
Correct.
Domestic violence requires multiple solutions.
Behavioural analysis falls under psychology.
We don’t hear much from psychologists about how to do it.
We don’t hear from teachers how to do it.
We don’t hear from parents how to do it.
We don’t hear from DM experts on how to do it.
We dont hear from victims on how do do it.
We don’t hear from police on how to do it.
Its clear that More needs to be done.
In addition to all the other things going on to reduce Domestic Violence.
I would
1 teach emotional intelligence in schools, colleges and universities
2 counselling adults involved in DM to include emotional awareness and emotional control.
3 redesigning homes with 2 doors per room instead of one.
4 alarm devices
5 safe rooms
6 implement recommendations per reports into DM
OK off I go. If it starts raining again, what’s the worst that can happen?
That’s right, nuclear Armageddon.
Cymek said:
Cymek said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Heard the news some, unimpressed I be.Rapist still walking around freely.
A Senator still harrassing a rape victim.
Someone from an organisation that segregates themselves into separate genders and then complains about sexual diversity and abortion, coming over here.
Government spending 4.7 billion on Domestic Violence without addressing the need for adults to be emotionally intelligent enough to be able handle an argument without resorting to violence.
Raining.
I wonder if it is too late by the time they are an adult.
Requires a effort most people cannot or will not put in.
Needs an entire life rethink and behaviour change.
Its also not just a government responsibility
Alcohol and drugs and emotional immaturity seen to cause a large number of them.
Pre-learned or witnessed behaviour when young probably creates the subconscious idea its normal.The government, courts, corrective services, relationship counselling, rehab, prisons all do try hard I think
I imagine changing behaviour is not easy even if determined if your life is in the toilet for whatever reason.
Yes you are right.
Drugs can influence violent behaviour.
Its difficult to change existing behaviours.
Emotional awareness, emotional control and emotional maturity need to be discussed more across parent organisations, psychologists, domestic violence experts, police, governments and education organisations.
It needs change.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Cymek said:
Cymek said:I wonder if it is too late by the time they are an adult.
Requires a effort most people cannot or will not put in.
Needs an entire life rethink and behaviour change.
Its also not just a government responsibility
Alcohol and drugs and emotional immaturity seen to cause a large number of them.
Pre-learned or witnessed behaviour when young probably creates the subconscious idea its normal.The government, courts, corrective services, relationship counselling, rehab, prisons all do try hard I think
I imagine changing behaviour is not easy even if determined if your life is in the toilet for whatever reason.
Yes you are right.
Drugs can influence violent behaviour.
Its difficult to change existing behaviours.
Emotional awareness, emotional control and emotional maturity need to be discussed more across parent organisations, psychologists, domestic violence experts, police, governments and education organisations.
It needs change.
Men wanting to control women, that attitude needs to change.
I have some advice.
Never study systems analysis.
It will make you cranky later in life.
Tau.Neutrino said:
I have some advice.
Never study systems analysis.
It will make you cranky later in life.
what’s the précis
People will need to get used to the idea of multiple solutions across multiple fronts.
Reducing illnesses ie covid et al.
Reducing emissions
Reducing domestic violence
Reducing wastage. Food and energy.
Reducing our footprint on the environment.
BACK without getting soaked or exterminated.
Instead of crisps I got some cheddar Shapes and a jar of stuffed olives.
FNDC now called.
And we are back. Again. Another trip to Geelong today to get yesterday’s implant tightened up. 400kilometres in a day is far enough, let alone repeating it the next day as well. Anyway, I made Mr buffy stop for me to photograph some flowers I saw through the drizzle at 100km/hr.

Tau.Neutrino said:
People will need to get used to the idea of multiple solutions across multiple fronts.Reducing illnesses ie covid et al.
Reducing emissions
Reducing domestic violence
Reducing wastage. Food and energy.
Reducing our footprint on the environment.
All worthy aims.
Bubblecar said:
BACK without getting soaked or exterminated.Instead of crisps I got some cheddar Shapes and a jar of stuffed olives.
FNDC now called.
Sounds good.
ChrispenEvan said:
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
while up at mummy’s
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dinner being made, top secret, or you don’t deserve to know, you choose
Parrot soup followed by bird on a stick.
what flavour is it?
Rainbow.
SCIENCE said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
I have some advice.
Never study systems analysis.
It will make you cranky later in life.
what’s the précis
Overviews lead to details.
buffy said:
And we are back. Again. Another trip to Geelong today to get yesterday’s implant tightened up. 400kilometres in a day is far enough, let alone repeating it the next day as well. Anyway, I made Mr buffy stop for me to photograph some flowers I saw through the drizzle at 100km/hr.
That’s a lovely water meadow snap.
Was this second trip planned or due to faulty workmanship yesterday?
buffy said:
And we are back. Again. Another trip to Geelong today to get yesterday’s implant tightened up. 400kilometres in a day is far enough, let alone repeating it the next day as well. Anyway, I made Mr buffy stop for me to photograph some flowers I saw through the drizzle at 100km/hr.
Daisys.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And we are back. Again. Another trip to Geelong today to get yesterday’s implant tightened up. 400kilometres in a day is far enough, let alone repeating it the next day as well. Anyway, I made Mr buffy stop for me to photograph some flowers I saw through the drizzle at 100km/hr.
Daisys.
Asteraceae.
Bubblecar said:
FNDC now called.
Ooops – way ahead of yah already. I’m on my 3rd.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:Tau.Neutrino said:
I have some advice.
Never study systems analysis.
It will make you cranky later in life.
what’s the précis
Overviews lead to details.
Problems lead to solutions.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:FNDC now called.
Ooops – way ahead of yah already. I’m on my 3rd.
Cheers.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
And we are back. Again. Another trip to Geelong today to get yesterday’s implant tightened up. 400kilometres in a day is far enough, let alone repeating it the next day as well. Anyway, I made Mr buffy stop for me to photograph some flowers I saw through the drizzle at 100km/hr.
That’s a lovely water meadow snap.
Was this second trip planned or due to faulty workmanship yesterday?
Faulty workmanship yesterday. We would have arranged to stay overnight if we thought it was a two dayer. It only took 15 minutes to fix today.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And we are back. Again. Another trip to Geelong today to get yesterday’s implant tightened up. 400kilometres in a day is far enough, let alone repeating it the next day as well. Anyway, I made Mr buffy stop for me to photograph some flowers I saw through the drizzle at 100km/hr.
Daisys.
Swamp daisies, even.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And we are back. Again. Another trip to Geelong today to get yesterday’s implant tightened up. 400kilometres in a day is far enough, let alone repeating it the next day as well. Anyway, I made Mr buffy stop for me to photograph some flowers I saw through the drizzle at 100km/hr.
Daisys.
Asteraceae.
I’ve put Allittia cardiocarpa on the observation for iNaturalist. There were scattered plants over about a km of roadside. I thought I did quite well to notice them at 100km/hr in drizzle (actually I noticed them yesterday, but didn’t stop in the rain yesterday). I had to just use the optical zoom on the point and shoot camera, I didn’t have any gumboots with me to wade in.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
And we are back. Again. Another trip to Geelong today to get yesterday’s implant tightened up. 400kilometres in a day is far enough, let alone repeating it the next day as well. Anyway, I made Mr buffy stop for me to photograph some flowers I saw through the drizzle at 100km/hr.
That’s a lovely water meadow snap.
Was this second trip planned or due to faulty workmanship yesterday?
Faulty workmanship yesterday. We would have arranged to stay overnight if we thought it was a two dayer. It only took 15 minutes to fix today.
They ought to have given Mr buffy a partial discount for that.
UWM on systems analyst
A systems analyst is a person who uses analysis and design techniques to solve business problems using information technology. Systems analysts may serve as change agents who identify the organizational improvements needed, design systems to implement those changes, and train and motivate others to use the systems.
https://uwm.edu/informationstudies/career-path/systems-analyst/
Wikipedia on systems analysis
Systems analysis is “the process of studying a procedure or business to identify its goal and purposes and create systems and procedures that will efficiently achieve them”. Another view sees systems analysis as a problem-solving technique that breaks a system down into its component pieces and analyses how well those parts work and interact to accomplish their purpose.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_analysis
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:Daisys.
Asteraceae.
I’ve put Allittia cardiocarpa on the observation for iNaturalist. There were scattered plants over about a km of roadside. I thought I did quite well to notice them at 100km/hr in drizzle (actually I noticed them yesterday, but didn’t stop in the rain yesterday). I had to just use the optical zoom on the point and shoot camera, I didn’t have any gumboots with me to wade in.
You did a good job. The camera likes you.
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:but isn’t the premise less about the act committed by the child but instead in the negligence committed by the parent
negligence is not a finite term… it can be manipulated. It could be considered just as negligent to have the key to the alcohol cabinet accessible to a teenager who drinks then gets in a car and drives it into a park with children playing. The argument is about the precedent it sets… it’s dangerous
I get it.. but presumably it’s possible to construct a charge whereby the parent isn’t responsible for the death of the people killed in the shooting but instead suggests their negligent behavior resulted in a minor having control over a firearm (who by no other means could have procured this firearm).
I’m a bit behind here, but I’ve been listening to the radio for a large part of the day. I think it was mentioned that the father had gifted the gun to the son.
buffy said:
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:negligence is not a finite term… it can be manipulated. It could be considered just as negligent to have the key to the alcohol cabinet accessible to a teenager who drinks then gets in a car and drives it into a park with children playing. The argument is about the precedent it sets… it’s dangerous
I get it.. but presumably it’s possible to construct a charge whereby the parent isn’t responsible for the death of the people killed in the shooting but instead suggests their negligent behavior resulted in a minor having control over a firearm (who by no other means could have procured this firearm).
I’m a bit behind here, but I’ve been listening to the radio for a large part of the day. I think it was mentioned that the father had gifted the gun to the son.
Well that would make him definitely responsible.
RangerJudy 45m
September 6: Lady left the nest bowl last night around 11pm to sleep nearby and nestlings were alone on the nest. Dad left early in the morning and returned with a fish very quickly – and their first feed of the day from Lady finished by 6:30. Both brought I leaves and the magpie swooper appeared around 8am as well. Lady returned to brood from just before 9am, on a warm Spring day. Dad was seen down on River roost and there for some time. Lady finally left them just after 12, returning before long with more leaves and sitting by them again. She moved to the nearby branch at 15:23 – and at 4pm – still waiting. 1645, both turned up, no prey, and Dad off again. Finally at end of day Dad brought in a gull chick, with SE33 “mantling” possessively over it as Lady began to feed – both ate, then Lady settled on the nest
A novel recipe:

Peak Warming Man said:
RangerJudy 45m
September 6: Lady left the nest bowl last night around 11pm to sleep nearby and nestlings were alone on the nest. Dad left early in the morning and returned with a fish very quickly – and their first feed of the day from Lady finished by 6:30. Both brought I leaves and the magpie swooper appeared around 8am as well. Lady returned to brood from just before 9am, on a warm Spring day. Dad was seen down on River roost and there for some time. Lady finally left them just after 12, returning before long with more leaves and sitting by them again. She moved to the nearby branch at 15:23 – and at 4pm – still waiting. 1645, both turned up, no prey, and Dad off again. Finally at end of day Dad brought in a gull chick, with SE33 “mantling” possessively over it as Lady began to feed – both ate, then Lady settled on the nest
I see they are doing a good job of saving people’s chips. By not letting so many gulls grow up to be chip thieves.
roughbarked said:
A novel recipe:
That’s rather out of focus. So much so I found it impossible to continue reading.
House of serenity after a couple of wild windy nights.

roughbarked said:
buffy said:
diddly-squat said:I get it.. but presumably it’s possible to construct a charge whereby the parent isn’t responsible for the death of the people killed in the shooting but instead suggests their negligent behavior resulted in a minor having control over a firearm (who by no other means could have procured this firearm).
I’m a bit behind here, but I’ve been listening to the radio for a large part of the day. I think it was mentioned that the father had gifted the gun to the son.
Well that would make him definitely responsible.
the thing that makes it negligent is that he did so (the gifting) after there was some communication that he was going to shoot up a school (I believe he posted something online or wrote something to someone) .. adults gift their children guns all the time in the USA..
there are guns (single action hunting rifles) that you can get child sized and pink for girls (cammo or blue for boys) they are often gifts for children, specifically in the hunting states… it’s not the gifting that is the issue (although that is a bigger social issue) It’s that he did it after the threats were recorded.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:That’s a lovely water meadow snap.
Was this second trip planned or due to faulty workmanship yesterday?
Faulty workmanship yesterday. We would have arranged to stay overnight if we thought it was a two dayer. It only took 15 minutes to fix today.
They ought to have given Mr buffy a partial discount for that.
Or petrol money, as suggested by a friend of ours.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I’m a bit behind here, but I’ve been listening to the radio for a large part of the day. I think it was mentioned that the father had gifted the gun to the son.
Well that would make him definitely responsible.
the thing that makes it negligent is that he did so (the gifting) after there was some communication that he was going to shoot up a school (I believe he posted something online or wrote something to someone) .. adults gift their children guns all the time in the USA..
there are guns (single action hunting rifles) that you can get child sized and pink for girls (cammo or blue for boys) they are often gifts for children, specifically in the hunting states… it’s not the gifting that is the issue (although that is a bigger social issue) It’s that he did it after the threats were recorded.
I’m sure it’s somebody else’s fault.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I’m a bit behind here, but I’ve been listening to the radio for a large part of the day. I think it was mentioned that the father had gifted the gun to the son.
Well that would make him definitely responsible.
the thing that makes it negligent is that he did so (the gifting) after there was some communication that he was going to shoot up a school (I believe he posted something online or wrote something to someone) .. adults gift their children guns all the time in the USA..
there are guns (single action hunting rifles) that you can get child sized and pink for girls (cammo or blue for boys) they are often gifts for children, specifically in the hunting states… it’s not the gifting that is the issue (although that is a bigger social issue) It’s that he did it after the threats were recorded.
>>after there was some communication that he was going to shoot up a school (I believe he posted something online or wrote something to someone)<<
Yes, that was mentioned. I think the police had already spoken to him. But I may have made that bit up.

Ivy is being fostered by heidi’s son.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2024/sep/06/they-had-to-find-foster-homes-for-hundreds-of-sick-and-traumatised-labradoodles-we-took-one
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
A novel recipe:
That’s rather out of focus. So much so I found it impossible to continue reading.
Yeah I tried to copy it from an old newspaper clipping on the web.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I’m a bit behind here, but I’ve been listening to the radio for a large part of the day. I think it was mentioned that the father had gifted the gun to the son.
Well that would make him definitely responsible.
the thing that makes it negligent is that he did so (the gifting) after there was some communication that he was going to shoot up a school (I believe he posted something online or wrote something to someone) .. adults gift their children guns all the time in the USA..
there are guns (single action hunting rifles) that you can get child sized and pink for girls (cammo or blue for boys) they are often gifts for children, specifically in the hunting states… it’s not the gifting that is the issue (although that is a bigger social issue) It’s that he did it after the threats were recorded.
Yes. I’ve seen the child size assault weapons in Camo and pink. It is a strange place.
Culpable would be the description of gifting after threats were recorded.
sarahs mum said:
Ivy is being fostered by heidi’s son.https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2024/sep/06/they-had-to-find-foster-homes-for-hundreds-of-sick-and-traumatised-labradoodles-we-took-one
Sounds horrific.
https://www.hobartcity.com.au/Council/News-publications-and-announcements/Hobart-News/kunanyi-Mt-Wellington-reminds-us-whos-boss
sarahs mum said:
https://www.hobartcity.com.au/Council/News-publications-and-announcements/Hobart-News/kunanyi-Mt-Wellington-reminds-us-whos-boss
With folded arms, stamps foot.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.hobartcity.com.au/Council/News-publications-and-announcements/Hobart-News/kunanyi-Mt-Wellington-reminds-us-whos-boss
With folded arms, stamps foot.
the state govt is trying to make out that the hobart city council does a shit job of running mt wellington and the state should be responsible. (cause if it were being run well it would be making more money?) under the circumstances I think the council did a great job.
buffy said:
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:negligence is not a finite term… it can be manipulated. It could be considered just as negligent to have the key to the alcohol cabinet accessible to a teenager who drinks then gets in a car and drives it into a park with children playing. The argument is about the precedent it sets… it’s dangerous
I get it.. but presumably it’s possible to construct a charge whereby the parent isn’t responsible for the death of the people killed in the shooting but instead suggests their negligent behavior resulted in a minor having control over a firearm (who by no other means could have procured this firearm).
I’m a bit behind here, but I’ve been listening to the radio for a large part of the day. I think it was mentioned that the father had gifted the gun to the son.
Americans shooting children again? it’s their amendment rights.

Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:what’s the précis
Overviews lead to details.
Problems lead to solutions.
Looking for efficiencies
Anything unproductive leads to efficiency.
we blame the bastards who invented gunpowder
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
A novel recipe:
That’s rather out of focus. So much so I found it impossible to continue reading.
Yeah I tried to copy it from an old newspaper clipping on the web.
A Novel Recipe.
Take a pound or so of foolscap, cut into propor size, trim the edges neatly, and see that your ink is of right temperature. Select a fresh young heroine of about one hundred and thirty pounds (hero in due proportion, and also fresh); sweeten with domestic virtues, and sprinkle with artistio tastes. Chop your sentences quite small, and garnish with exclamations; but do not mince matters in the love-making. Let the story simmer gently toward boiling point; then take a well-seasoned “situation,” carefully remove all traces of probability, and add to the mixture with plenty of spice. Pour into molds commonly used for this purpose. A little froth skimmed from other literature makes an ornamental finish. -Pack
Big day out today, so…
Flings ‘nings
sarahs mum said:
At least it’s a real snake…
furious said:
sarahs mum said:
At least it’s a real snake…
…. and not a hovercraft full of eels.
SCIENCE said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
I have some advice.
Never study systems analysis.
It will make you cranky later in life.
what’s the précis
I should have put them in order.
Problems lead to solutions. Analyse the problem, design a solution.
Overviews lead to details. Break a problem into its parts in order to understand how all the related parts work together.
Looking for efficiencies, anything unproductive will lead to an efficiency.
UWM on systems analyst
A systems analyst is a person who uses analysis and design techniques to solve business problems using information technology. Systems analysts may serve as change agents who identify the organizational improvements needed, design systems to implement those changes, and train and motivate others to use the systems.
https://uwm.edu/informationstudies/career-path/systems-analyst/
Wikipedia on systems analysis
Systems analysis is “the process of studying a procedure or business to identify its goal and purposes and create systems and procedures that will efficiently achieve them”. Another view sees systems analysis as a problem-solving technique that breaks a system down into its component pieces and analyses how well those parts work and interact to accomplish their purpose.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_analysis
sarahs mum said:
The endangered sea snake hasn’t got any money to be threatened.
Good morning good people!
monkey skipper said:
Good morning good people!
We know we must be good because we aren’t in gaol.
;)
Good mornning.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 3 degrees at the back door with a clear sky and no wind. We are forecast 15 degrees with a shower or two.
We are not going to Geelong today! I’ll have breakfast at the bakery with my bushwandering friend and she will decide if we walk around the Botanic Gardens or not. I also want to go to the local cemetery to check on the orchids again. She might want to do that, although that involves walking over rougher ground, and the ground is wet. She’s fine usually with the rough ground, she walks around her own paddock with her walker, but she will choose. I’ve go stuff to go through the chipper for mulch but everything is damp at the moment and that tends to clog things up. So it will probably be a weeding day.
13 degrees and we had 2mm overnight. Sunny with light winds. Glad the wind has dropped and 21˚ will have less people complaining than yesterday’s 30˚.
In relation to the Georgia shooting culprit’s father,
•Arrest warrants said he caused the deaths of others by providing a firearm to Colt Gray with knowledge that he was threat to himself and others
Morning sheeple, heading for a max of 13 here, so quite a nippy one for spring. Will also be quite windy again.
There was a family quiz in my dream and one of my questions was “From what plant is flax made?” I said flax is a plant in its own right but the answer was “cotton”. I was embarrassed at being so ignorant but indignant when I awoke because of course I was right, flax is flax and isn’t “made” from another plant.
That mace still hasn’t turned up so today I’ll make a batch of sausage rolls without it. Apart from that it’ll mainly be reading and relaxing.
Another Aussie innovation. The terminator
Might upset some Christian fundies with this comment though,
“Basically, we smash the bejesus out of it,” he said.
The yanks are pants at the handicapped Olympics’
The neanderthals did well.

Good morning everybody.
It’s a clear and sunny Saturday morning, 12.3° C and I’m shivering. The relative humidity is 89% and it’s calm. BoM forecasts a top of 25°C and very little chance of rain.
No agenda set yet.
roughbarked said:
Another Aussie innovation. The terminator
Might upset some Christian fundies with this comment though,
“Basically, we smash the bejesus out of it,” he said.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=shared&v=MvEXkd3O2ow&t=11
Morning – a grey start to the morning with a surprise rain shower. Looks like it is clearing up. It’s hubby’s birthday today. Will take Princess Cordelia to get a coffee, then son and his girlfriend are coming over with home baked gifts. Then son is taking us and a friend to the brewery for a beverage (or two) and burgers. So it is going to be a busy day.
Brindabellas said:
Morning – a grey start to the morning with a surprise rain shower. Looks like it is clearing up. It’s hubby’s birthday today. Will take Princess Cordelia to get a coffee, then son and his girlfriend are coming over with home baked gifts. Then son is taking us and a friend to the brewery for a beverage (or two) and burgers. So it is going to be a busy day.
Sounds like a fun day for all.
Brindabellas said:
Morning – a grey start to the morning with a surprise rain shower. Looks like it is clearing up. It’s hubby’s birthday today. Will take Princess Cordelia to get a coffee, then son and his girlfriend are coming over with home baked gifts. Then son is taking us and a friend to the brewery for a beverage (or two) and burgers. So it is going to be a busy day.
Sounds like a spiffing day.
Brindabellas said:
Morning – a grey start to the morning with a surprise rain shower. Looks like it is clearing up. It’s hubby’s birthday today. Will take Princess Cordelia to get a coffee, then son and his girlfriend are coming over with home baked gifts. Then son is taking us and a friend to the brewery for a beverage (or two) and burgers. So it is going to be a busy day.
Enjoy it.
:)
Brindabellas said:
Morning – a grey start to the morning with a surprise rain shower. Looks like it is clearing up. It’s hubby’s birthday today. Will take Princess Cordelia to get a coffee, then son and his girlfriend are coming over with home baked gifts. Then son is taking us and a friend to the brewery for a beverage (or two) and burgers. So it is going to be a busy day.
Sounds like fun and with no calls on hold for hours :)
Have others noticed this weird thing happening with their internet lately? Various pages going very out-of-focus and fuzzy for a while before returning to normal.
Been happening for the past couple of weeks, not often but it’s unsettling.
Bubblecar said:
Have others noticed this weird thing happening with their internet lately? Various pages going very out-of-focus and fuzzy for a while before returning to normal.Been happening for the past couple of weeks, not often but it’s unsettling.
Nup. Not that I’ve noticed.
Bubblecar said:
Have others noticed this weird thing happening with their internet lately? Various pages going very out-of-focus and fuzzy for a while before returning to normal.Been happening for the past couple of weeks, not often but it’s unsettling.
Nope.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Have others noticed this weird thing happening with their internet lately? Various pages going very out-of-focus and fuzzy for a while before returning to normal.Been happening for the past couple of weeks, not often but it’s unsettling.
Nope.
That’s a computer thing, not an internet thing.
I’d guess the graphics card, perhaps the voltage it’s getting.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Have others noticed this weird thing happening with their internet lately? Various pages going very out-of-focus and fuzzy for a while before returning to normal.Been happening for the past couple of weeks, not often but it’s unsettling.
Nope.
That’s a computer thing, not an internet thing.
I’d guess the graphics card, perhaps the voltage it’s getting.
It only happens with the internet and only rarely (it’s never happened with the forum).
I have a powerful graphics card with oodles of memory.
Bubblecar said:
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:Nope.
That’s a computer thing, not an internet thing.
I’d guess the graphics card, perhaps the voltage it’s getting.
It only happens with the internet and only rarely (it’s never happened with the forum).
I have a powerful graphics card with oodles of memory.
…it’s only the internet page that goes out of focus, not the toolbars or any other windows that might be open.
Bubblecar said:
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:Nope.
That’s a computer thing, not an internet thing.
I’d guess the graphics card, perhaps the voltage it’s getting.
It only happens with the internet and only rarely (it’s never happened with the forum).
I have a powerful graphics card with oodles of memory.
I’d still put my money on that sorry.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Spiny Norman said:That’s a computer thing, not an internet thing.
I’d guess the graphics card, perhaps the voltage it’s getting.
It only happens with the internet and only rarely (it’s never happened with the forum).
I have a powerful graphics card with oodles of memory.
…it’s only the internet page that goes out of focus, not the toolbars or any other windows that might be open.
Browser …. ?
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Spiny Norman said:That’s a computer thing, not an internet thing.
I’d guess the graphics card, perhaps the voltage it’s getting.
It only happens with the internet and only rarely (it’s never happened with the forum).
I have a powerful graphics card with oodles of memory.
…it’s only the internet page that goes out of focus, not the toolbars or any other windows that might be open.
Could be something to do with Adblocker.
Spiny Norman said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:It only happens with the internet and only rarely (it’s never happened with the forum).
I have a powerful graphics card with oodles of memory.
…it’s only the internet page that goes out of focus, not the toolbars or any other windows that might be open.
Browser …. ?
Chrome.
4/10 in the ABC news quiz
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:It only happens with the internet and only rarely (it’s never happened with the forum).
I have a powerful graphics card with oodles of memory.
…it’s only the internet page that goes out of focus, not the toolbars or any other windows that might be open.
Could be something to do with Adblocker.
Adblocker here got damaged by a page recently, so I reinstalled it.
Spiny Norman said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:It only happens with the internet and only rarely (it’s never happened with the forum).
I have a powerful graphics card with oodles of memory.
…it’s only the internet page that goes out of focus, not the toolbars or any other windows that might be open.
Browser …. ?
We can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity.
ah then must be it’s the paywall for those uh restricted uh sites they’re visiting
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:…it’s only the internet page that goes out of focus, not the toolbars or any other windows that might be open.
Could be something to do with Adblocker.
Adblocker here got damaged by a page recently, so I reinstalled it.
Anyway it’s not really a problem. Fixes itself almost instantly, it’s just unsettling because I’ve never encountered it until a couple weeks ago.
Main site it affects is the Lovatt crossword puzzle page but today it also happened on another site.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Could be something to do with Adblocker.
Adblocker here got damaged by a page recently, so I reinstalled it.
Anyway it’s not really a problem. Fixes itself almost instantly, it’s just unsettling because I’ve never encountered it until a couple weeks ago.
Main site it affects is the Lovatt crossword puzzle page but today it also happened on another site.
I’ve just opened one of the Lovatt crosswords and can report that the page went blurry when I moved my mouse up to the Chrome toolbar.
But it doesn’t always happen.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Have others noticed this weird thing happening with their internet lately? Various pages going very out-of-focus and fuzzy for a while before returning to normal.Been happening for the past couple of weeks, not often but it’s unsettling.
Nope.
That’s a computer thing, not an internet thing.
I’d guess the graphics card, perhaps the voltage it’s getting.
Or his eyes are going.
SCIENCE said:
ah then must be it’s the paywall for those uh restricted uh sites they’re visiting
Yes. Some sites blur images until you do what they want you to do.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:ah then must be it’s the paywall for those uh restricted uh sites they’re visiting
Yes. Some sites blur images until you do what they want you to do.
I don’t visit “uh restricted uh sites” whatever they are.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:ah then must be it’s the paywall for those uh restricted uh sites they’re visiting
Yes. Some sites blur images until you do what they want you to do.
I don’t visit “uh restricted uh sites” whatever they are.
Neither do I. I was talking about commercial sites when you use adblockers.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Could be something to do with Adblocker.
Adblocker here got damaged by a page recently, so I reinstalled it.
Anyway it’s not really a problem. Fixes itself almost instantly, it’s just unsettling because I’ve never encountered it until a couple weeks ago.
Main site it affects is the Lovatt crossword puzzle page but today it also happened on another site.
That site is not affected this end.
dv said:
4/10 in the ABC news quiz6/10 of which none were guesses
Yesterday I got my eyes checked and visited Mother. After 28 years at -1.0 my eyes are now -1.75. I also have quite dry eyes which I’ve not noticed but I’m probably distracted by the headache and nausea. At Mother’s I completed her hospital paperwork for the 17th and she fed me a tasty keto lunch – meat and salad wraps &c. We went for a walk along the creek where the SES were tending to giant fallen eucalypts.
OCDC said:
dv said:4/10 in the ABC news quiz6/10 of which none were guesses
Odd. It is not coming up on my ABC. I have refreshed several times, several stories are repeated, but no quiz comes up.
BTW, I do not like the new format of the ABC News webpage
OCDC said:
I also have quite dry eyes which I’ve not noticed
Can confirm that dry eyes are rather not a good thing.
Bubblecar said:
Spiny Norman said:
Bubblecar said:…it’s only the internet page that goes out of focus, not the toolbars or any other windows that might be open.
Browser …. ?
Chrome.
OMG
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC said:My drops are only twice a day for now.Can confirm that dry eyes are rather not a good thing.
I also have quite dry eyes which I’ve not noticed
party_pants said:
OCDC said:
dv said:4/10 in the ABC news quiz6/10 of which none were guesses
Odd. It is not coming up on my ABC. I have refreshed several times, several stories are repeated, but no quiz comes up.
BTW, I do not like the new format of the ABC News webpage
I really dislike the new ABC Justin page. In particular because it no longer shows which articles I have opened.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
OCDC said:
6/10 of which none were guesses
Odd. It is not coming up on my ABC. I have refreshed several times, several stories are repeated, but no quiz comes up.
BTW, I do not like the new format of the ABC News webpage
I really dislike the new ABC Justin page. In particular because it no longer shows which articles I have opened.
I cannot copy off the justin page anymore, you have to click the link.
party_pants said:
OCDC said:
dv said:4/10 in the ABC news quiz6/10 of which none were guesses
Odd. It is not coming up on my ABC. I have refreshed several times, several stories are repeated, but no quiz comes up.
BTW, I do not like the new format of the ABC News webpage
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
OCDC said:
6/10 of which none were guesses
Odd. It is not coming up on my ABC. I have refreshed several times, several stories are repeated, but no quiz comes up.
BTW, I do not like the new format of the ABC News webpage
The latest one there is the 5th, if it’s that one I’ve done it.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
OCDC said:
6/10 of which none were guesses
Odd. It is not coming up on my ABC. I have refreshed several times, several stories are repeated, but no quiz comes up.
BTW, I do not like the new format of the ABC News webpage
50/50 ;)
OCDC said:
Yesterday I got my eyes checked and visited Mother. After 28 years at -1.0 my eyes are now -1.75. I also have quite dry eyes which I’ve not noticed but I’m probably distracted by the headache and nausea. At Mother’s I completed her hospital paperwork for the 17th and she fed me a tasty keto lunch – meat and salad wraps &c. We went for a walk along the creek where the SES were tending to giant fallen eucalypts.
Sounds a pleasant enough day.
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:Rain held off til after our walk which was good. And even better, she sent me home with food.Yesterday I got my eyes checked and visited Mother. After 28 years at -1.0 my eyes are now -1.75. I also have quite dry eyes which I’ve not noticed but I’m probably distracted by the headache and nausea. At Mother’s I completed her hospital paperwork for the 17th and she fed me a tasty keto lunch – meat and salad wraps &c. We went for a walk along the creek where the SES were tending to giant fallen eucalypts.Sounds a pleasant enough day.
“The wifi at No 10 must be really bad.
Despite a public spat with Elon Musk on his X social media platform, Sir Keir Starmer appears to have buried the hatchet between him and the tech tycoon as he took delivery of a Starlink internet system yesterday.
Starlink, owned by Mr Musk’s SpaceX rocket company, allows people anywhere in the world to connect to the internet via a system of 6,350 satellites. “
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:OCDC said:Rain held off til after our walk which was good. And even better, she sent me home with food.Yesterday I got my eyes checked and visited Mother. After 28 years at -1.0 my eyes are now -1.75. I also have quite dry eyes which I’ve not noticed but I’m probably distracted by the headache and nausea. At Mother’s I completed her hospital paperwork for the 17th and she fed me a tasty keto lunch – meat and salad wraps &c. We went for a walk along the creek where the SES were tending to giant fallen eucalypts.Sounds a pleasant enough day.
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
“The wifi at No 10 must be really bad.
Despite a public spat with Elon Musk on his X social media platform, Sir Keir Starmer appears to have buried the hatchet between him and the tech tycoon as he took delivery of a Starlink internet system yesterday.
Starlink, owned by Mr Musk’s SpaceX rocket company, allows people anywhere in the world to connect to the internet via a system of 6,350 satellites. “
“Starlink, owned by Mr Musk’s SpaceX rocket company, allows people anywhere in the world to connect to the internet via a system of 6,350 satellites” right up to the moment when Mr Musk decides that he’s not that keen on them and/or their politics, and pulls the plug on them.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“The wifi at No 10 must be really bad.
Despite a public spat with Elon Musk on his X social media platform, Sir Keir Starmer appears to have buried the hatchet between him and the tech tycoon as he took delivery of a Starlink internet system yesterday.
Starlink, owned by Mr Musk’s SpaceX rocket company, allows people anywhere in the world to connect to the internet via a system of 6,350 satellites. “
“Starlink, owned by Mr Musk’s SpaceX rocket company, allows people anywhere in the world to connect to the internet via a system of 6,350 satellites” right up to the moment when Mr Musk decides that he’s not that keen on them and/or their politics, and pulls the plug on them.
I think it is time to go to a system of high altitude drone pseudo-satellites that perform the same functions, and forget swarms in low earth orbit. Sooner or later there is going to be collisions or deliberate shooting up of said satellites resulting in a cloud of debris making that orbit unsafe.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Have others noticed this weird thing happening with their internet lately? Various pages going very out-of-focus and fuzzy for a while before returning to normal.Been happening for the past couple of weeks, not often but it’s unsettling.
Nup. Not that I’ve noticed.
mr buffy informs me that our interwebs went completely off for about half an hour while I was out this morning.
Now I’m back and have some photos to sort.
Hot dogs again with onion and cheese.
Over.
Ham, cheese and salad wrap.
party_pants said:
OCDC said:
dv said:4/10 in the ABC news quiz6/10 of which none were guesses
Odd. It is not coming up on my ABC. I have refreshed several times, several stories are repeated, but no quiz comes up.
BTW, I do not like the new format of the ABC News webpage
I don’t like the way the pictures expand and contract as you scroll down unless you put the cursor way over to the side.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
OCDC said:
6/10 of which none were guesses
Odd. It is not coming up on my ABC. I have refreshed several times, several stories are repeated, but no quiz comes up.
BTW, I do not like the new format of the ABC News webpage
I really dislike the new ABC Justin page. In particular because it no longer shows which articles I have opened.
And that also is annoying.
The great Rainbow Serpent doesn’t want a nuclear power station in the Hunter.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The great Rainbow Serpent doesn’t want a nuclear power station in the Hunter.
An understandable sentiment. I’m not sold on the idea either.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:Odd. It is not coming up on my ABC. I have refreshed several times, several stories are repeated, but no quiz comes up.
BTW, I do not like the new format of the ABC News webpage
I really dislike the new ABC Justin page. In particular because it no longer shows which articles I have opened.
And that also is annoying.
Fox News is much better.
Why Oasis fans should welcome price-gouging
There are worse things in life than paying a fair price
Illustration of a black credit card with the ‘oasis’ logo in white, a gold chip on the left, and the Mastercard logo on the bottom right
Illustration: Álvaro Bernis
Sep 5th 2024
The hotly anticipated comeback of a 1990s British legend sold out fast. Fans took to social media to complain. “Poor effort and a load of hype,” wrote one. “What a shitshow,” added another. “Anyone else loving the chaos?” asked an amused onlooker. To celebrate its 30th birthday, St. John, a restaurant that pioneered modern British cooking, brought back its menu from 1994, along with prices from 1994. As punters rushed to take advantage, tables were booked up in seconds—leaving most empty-handed.
Yet the fate of London’s foodies captured less attention than that of the parka-clad fans who missed out on tickets to see the reunion of Oasis, a laddish rock band. Owing to algorithmic “dynamic pricing”, in which prices of tickets adjust in response to demand, the cost of a standing ticket rose from £135 ($180) to £335 in the time many were queuing online, often for hours, to book. The government swiftly announced a probe. “We’ll grip this and make sure that tickets are available at a price that people can actually afford,” promised Sir Keir Starmer, Britain’s prime minister.
Price-gougers are popular villains. Kamala Harris, the Democratic candidate for president in America, has promised a ban to stop grocery stores from indulging in the practice. Many states have similar laws, often aimed at firms that raise the cost of essentials following disasters. The administration in which Ms Harris serves as vice-president has already filed an antitrust lawsuit against Ticketmaster, the company that ran the sale for the Oasis tour. Given that the firm has an estimated market share of 70% in America, it may have a case to answer. Additional fees for booking certainly look a little like the actions of a rent-seeker.
But there is a difference between monopolistic behaviour and allowing prices to respond to demand. In fact, dynamic pricing ought to be good for fans. As the contrasting examples of St. John and Oasis show, availability and affordability are in tension. In St. John’s case, ultra-low prices meant demand swamped supply. The menu may have been affordable, yet only for the lucky few who grabbed a table. Dedicated fans of Oasis can at least make the gigs, even if they have to pay through the nose.
In an ideal market prices reflect the willingness of consumers to pay. If Oasis tickets were sold for £20—roughly the amount that they cost three decades ago—many would be snapped up by people looking for a cheap night out, rather than genuine devotees. A fair portion would probably not turn up, because they were not that keen to see the band in the first place. The crowd might sing along to the hits but remain silent for the deeper cuts.
Britain’s government may also crack down on dynamic pricing for flights, arguing that parents should not be penalised for having to take holidays during school breaks. Yet would parents really welcome competition from the childless, who would no longer enjoy a discount for travelling at other times? Economists favour responsive prices since they can ensure that both consumer and producer “surplus” is maximised: those who value the good or service most get their hands on it; the seller gets a suitable reward.
Noel and Liam Gallagher, two brothers who are the only constant members of Oasis, have feuded for years. “It’s unsophisticated music. For unsophisticated people. Made by an unsophisticated man,” Noel once said of Liam’s solo work. They are now getting back together to make money. The availability of any ticket at all depends on the superstars’ anticipation of the returns on offer if they bury the hatchet. Oasis have already added two more London dates after the first tickets were snapped up (this time sold via an invite-only ballot for those who missed out). Even egregious forms of price-gouging can have similar effects. High prices after natural disasters can send a signal to companies that it is worthwhile overcoming disruption, or building stockpiles for next time.
Well-meaning types might respond that high prices help only the rich. For a billionaire with a casual interest in a band, a price that is eye-watering for those who politicians call “ordinary fans” will be negligible. But addressing such inequality through cheap tickets is foolish, even if it does not reduce supply or create a flourishing black market. Those who happened to get to the front of the queue would, in effect, enjoy a randomly allocated transfer from the artist’s earning potential. Ordinary people with no interest in the event would receive no benefit. A better approach is to address inequality directly through the tax-and-benefit system.
Don’t click back in anger
The most convincing charge against Oasis is not that they “sold out” but that they did so ineptly. Fans were forced both to queue and to pay high prices. Most businesses would rather avoid bad publicity from accusations of price-gouging. Although dynamic pricing offers a temporary windfall by extracting more money from the keenest customers, it can carry greater long-term costs by damaging a brand. Many performers reject Ticketmaster’s variable pricing; Oasis have now largely disavowed the process. High-end restaurants, bands and sports teams trade on mystique and loyalty as much as inherent quality. Exclusivity and serendipity, rather than an economist’s desire for efficiency, are part of what makes them fun. Queues build hype.
Balancing such concerns is an art as much as a science. In 2011 Next, a restaurant in Chicago, started to use dynamic pricing. It sells tickets with fluctuating prices, which depend on the date and time of the booking, helping to spread custom through the week and avoid no-shows. Those who go on a Tuesday can feel they got a good deal, even at a restaurant that can cost a pair of diners over $1,000. When an economist suggested an auction would be even more profitable, Nick Kokonas, a co-owner of the restaurant, explained that that the aim was to offer fans a “great bargain”. Diners, if they get a ticket, can judge that for themselves.
https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2024/09/05/why-oasis-fans-should-welcome-price-gouging?
party_pants said:
OCDC said:
dv said:4/10 in the ABC news quiz6/10 of which none were guesses
Odd. It is not coming up on my ABC. I have refreshed several times, several stories are repeated, but no quiz comes up.
BTW, I do not like the new format of the ABC News webpage
No. It’s horrible. Reminds me of a MS Frontpage template from loooooooong ago.
They’ve also fucked up the Listen app update.. fkn orrible!
Why do they let the work experience cretins loose on these things?
Ian said:
party_pants said:Cheaper than employing actual staff.OCDC said:No. It’s horrible. Reminds me of a MS Frontpage template from loooooooong ago.6/10 of which none were guessesOdd. It is not coming up on my ABC. I have refreshed several times, several stories are repeated, but no quiz comes up.
BTW, I do not like the new format of the ABC News webpage
They’ve also fucked up the Listen app update.. fkn orrible!
Why do they let the work experience cretins loose on these things?
Interestingly the ABC News channel chyrons changed this week too. I wonder if there is some newly implemented interoperability across the ABC digital media.
Ian said:
party_pants said:
OCDC said:
6/10 of which none were guesses
Odd. It is not coming up on my ABC. I have refreshed several times, several stories are repeated, but no quiz comes up.
BTW, I do not like the new format of the ABC News webpage
No. It’s horrible. Reminds me of a MS Frontpage template from loooooooong ago.
They’ve also fucked up the Listen app update.. fkn orrible!
Why do they let the work experience cretins loose on these things?
It’s all over the place, magazine style this and that, as though they themselves wouldn’t have a clue which stories are actually worth reading.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The great Rainbow Serpent doesn’t want a nuclear power station in the Hunter.
No it doesn’t.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Interestingly the ABC News channel chyrons changed this week too. I wonder if there is some newly implemented interoperability across the ABC digital media.
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King Island Dairy has (temporarily) gone under, but mainly because the Canadian owner didn’t really understand that it’s not a big brand competitor.
The verdict of Nick Haddow (Bruny Island Cheese) is on the right track but I hope King Island doesn’t return with Bruny Island prices.
Why did 120-year-old Tasmanian brand King Island Dairy fail?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Interestingly the ABC News channel chyrons changed this week too. I wonder if there is some newly implemented interoperability across the ABC digital media.
I’m not sure that “interoperability” is the right word.
So it’s not just me then that doesn’t like ABC’s changes.
I thought I was just getting old and cranky. I still use my laptop as my main electronic device, both at home and at work. Really only use the mobile if I’m away from the laptop. Phone browsing requires reading glasses to see the text clearly, there is only so much zooming one can do before the scrolling becomes silly.
party_pants said:
So it’s not just me then that doesn’t like ABC’s changes.I thought I was just getting old and cranky. I still use my laptop as my main electronic device, both at home and at work. Really only use the mobile if I’m away from the laptop. Phone browsing requires reading glasses to see the text clearly, there is only so much zooming one can do before the scrolling becomes silly.
Why can’t you have both.
party_pants said:
So it’s not just me then that doesn’t like ABC’s changes.I thought I was just getting old and cranky. I still use my laptop as my main electronic device, both at home and at work. Really only use the mobile if I’m away from the laptop. Phone browsing requires reading glasses to see the text clearly, there is only so much zooming one can do before the scrolling becomes silly.
I hate using phones for the internet. The cool kids think this means I’m “conservative” but to me, using a shitty little screen for such things is very much a step backward.
Dr Norman Swan skewers ‘breathtaking incompetence’ of ABC app woes
Prominent ABC radio host and medical expert Dr Norman Swan has criticised the national broadcaster’s “breathtaking incompetence” after an update to its radio and podcasting app disrupted services for some listeners. Swan’s criticisms, shared in an internal staff email chain, came in late August after ABC received a number of complaints related to changes to the listen app.
While some app features were upgraded, several bugs were also identified that led to users’ personalised settings and favourite shows disappearing, and the “share” function being removed. In some cases, the app disappeared from devices, including from the digital interface Android Auto installed in many modern cars.
While some presenters and producers have shared their frustration privately, Swan responded to an all-staff email from Radio National manager Dina Rosendorff to voice his displeasure.
“All I can say, this is breathtaking incompetence in relation to our major gateway,” Swan said in response to Rosendorff’s update, where she directed staff to advise listeners they could search and reselect RN again as their favourite station. She also shared a list of the changes and glitches to help listeners.
SMH

Bubblecar said:
King Island Dairy has (temporarily) gone under, but mainly because the Canadian owner didn’t really understand that it’s not a big brand competitor.The verdict of Nick Haddow (Bruny Island Cheese) is on the right track but I hope King Island doesn’t return with Bruny Island prices.
Why did 120-year-old Tasmanian brand King Island Dairy fail?
A cheese factory near here (Kenilworth) was closed by Kraft (IIRC). The staff bought it for almost nothing (it may have been $1 per share) and kept it going. Eventually as people aged, shares got sold, and they are now held entirely by the milk supplier.
There are several boutique cheese factories in the area now.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
King Island Dairy has (temporarily) gone under, but mainly because the Canadian owner didn’t really understand that it’s not a big brand competitor.The verdict of Nick Haddow (Bruny Island Cheese) is on the right track but I hope King Island doesn’t return with Bruny Island prices.
Why did 120-year-old Tasmanian brand King Island Dairy fail?
A cheese factory near here (Kenilworth) was closed by Kraft (IIRC). The staff bought it for almost nothing (it may have been $1 per share) and kept it going. Eventually as people aged, shares got sold, and they are now held entirely by the milk supplier.
There are several boutique cheese factories in the area now.
Good on them, as long as their prices are not too steep (which is why I seldom buy Bruny Island cheese these days).
sarahs mum said:
I can’t help, sorry.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
King Island Dairy has (temporarily) gone under, but mainly because the Canadian owner didn’t really understand that it’s not a big brand competitor.The verdict of Nick Haddow (Bruny Island Cheese) is on the right track but I hope King Island doesn’t return with Bruny Island prices.
Why did 120-year-old Tasmanian brand King Island Dairy fail?
A cheese factory near here (Kenilworth) was closed by Kraft (IIRC). The staff bought it for almost nothing (it may have been $1 per share) and kept it going. Eventually as people aged, shares got sold, and they are now held entirely by the milk supplier.
There are several boutique cheese factories in the area now.
Good on them, as long as their prices are not too steep (which is why I seldom buy Bruny Island cheese these days).
They are pretty reasonable. They sell into Woolworths (as Kenilworth Dairies) and they were looking to contract to Aldi (as Mary Valley Cheese). Plus of course, selling at the factory, where one can do tastings.
Bubblecar said:
King Island Dairy has (temporarily) gone under, but mainly because the Canadian owner didn’t really understand that it’s not a big brand competitor.The verdict of Nick Haddow (Bruny Island Cheese) is on the right track but I hope King Island doesn’t return with Bruny Island prices.
Why did 120-year-old Tasmanian brand King Island Dairy fail?
Don’t think much of their dairy products. Who wants cheese from seasick cows?
Ian said:
Bubblecar said:
King Island Dairy has (temporarily) gone under, but mainly because the Canadian owner didn’t really understand that it’s not a big brand competitor.The verdict of Nick Haddow (Bruny Island Cheese) is on the right track but I hope King Island doesn’t return with Bruny Island prices.
Why did 120-year-old Tasmanian brand King Island Dairy fail?
Don’t think much of their dairy products. Who wants cheese from seasick cows?
I have never even sampled some King Island cheese.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
So it’s not just me then that doesn’t like ABC’s changes.I thought I was just getting old and cranky. I still use my laptop as my main electronic device, both at home and at work. Really only use the mobile if I’m away from the laptop. Phone browsing requires reading glasses to see the text clearly, there is only so much zooming one can do before the scrolling becomes silly.
I hate using phones for the internet. The cool kids think this means I’m “conservative” but to me, using a shitty little screen for such things is very much a step backward.
Agree.
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
Bubblecar said:
King Island Dairy has (temporarily) gone under, but mainly because the Canadian owner didn’t really understand that it’s not a big brand competitor.The verdict of Nick Haddow (Bruny Island Cheese) is on the right track but I hope King Island doesn’t return with Bruny Island prices.
Why did 120-year-old Tasmanian brand King Island Dairy fail?
Don’t think much of their dairy products. Who wants cheese from seasick cows?
I have never even sampled some King Island cheese.
They are pretty good cheeses. Here are their products:
https://www.kingislanddairy.com.au/en#ProductRange
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Ian said:Don’t think much of their dairy products. Who wants cheese from seasick cows?
I have never even sampled some King Island cheese.
They are pretty good cheeses. Here are their products:
https://www.kingislanddairy.com.au/en#ProductRange
I’d better get to it and have a taste then. :)
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
Don’t think much of their dairy products. Who wants cheese from seasick cows?
I have never even sampled some King Island cheese.
They are pretty good cheeses. Here are their products:
wow that’s like 20 different types of brie but forgive our culinary incompetence how do we tell the different tastes
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
I have never even sampled some King Island cheese.
They are pretty good cheeses. Here are their products:
wow that’s like 20 different types of brie but forgive our culinary incompetence how do we tell the different tastes
I suppose by sampling.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
They are pretty good cheeses. Here are their products:
wow that’s like 20 different types of brie but forgive our culinary incompetence how do we tell the different tastes
I suppose by sampling.
sure sorry about the nonspecific question we mean what specific differences are we looking for, in what way do we sample to tell the difference, and so forth
but we do welcome your offer to try and hopefully report back
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
So it’s not just me then that doesn’t like ABC’s changes.I thought I was just getting old and cranky. I still use my laptop as my main electronic device, both at home and at work. Really only use the mobile if I’m away from the laptop. Phone browsing requires reading glasses to see the text clearly, there is only so much zooming one can do before the scrolling becomes silly.
I hate using phones for the internet. The cool kids think this means I’m “conservative” but to me, using a shitty little screen for such things is very much a step backward.
Sure but what’is strange is your use of a desktop perched on a chair for computing. A laptop on a couch is far more comfortable.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:RTFM.roughbarked said:wow that’s like 20 different types of brie but forgive our culinary incompetence how do we tell the different tastesI have never even sampled some King Island cheese.They are pretty good cheeses. Here are their products:
OCDC said:
SCIENCE said:Michael V said:RTFM.They are pretty good cheeses. Here are their products:wow that’s like 20 different types of brie but forgive our culinary incompetence how do we tell the different tastes
read the fromage menu?
JudgeMental said:
OCDC said:I suppose it could be if one is at work.SCIENCE said:read the fromage menu?wow that’s like 20 different types of brie but forgive our culinary incompetence how do we tell the different tastesRTFM.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
So it’s not just me then that doesn’t like ABC’s changes.I thought I was just getting old and cranky. I still use my laptop as my main electronic device, both at home and at work. Really only use the mobile if I’m away from the laptop. Phone browsing requires reading glasses to see the text clearly, there is only so much zooming one can do before the scrolling becomes silly.
I hate using phones for the internet. The cool kids think this means I’m “conservative” but to me, using a shitty little screen for such things is very much a step backward.
Sure but what’is strange is your use of a desktop perched on a chair for computing. A laptop on a couch is far more comfortable.
You may not have noticed that this computer room is also a recording studio, with everything plugged into an audio interface and microphones etc.


Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:I hate using phones for the internet. The cool kids think this means I’m “conservative” but to me, using a shitty little screen for such things is very much a step backward.
Sure but what’is strange is your use of a desktop perched on a chair for computing. A laptop on a couch is far more comfortable.
You may not have noticed that this computer room is also a recording studio, with everything plugged into an audio interface and microphones etc.
So that precludes buying a laptop which you could use on the nine out of ten days you don’t use any other equipment?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Sure but what’is strange is your use of a desktop perched on a chair for computing. A laptop on a couch is far more comfortable.
You may not have noticed that this computer room is also a recording studio, with everything plugged into an audio interface and microphones etc.
So that precludes buying a laptop which you could use on the nine out of ten days you don’t use any other equipment?
I’m quite comfortable on this chair, with a nice big monitor. In fact I’m wanting an even bigger monitor, not a smaller one.
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:You may not have noticed that this computer room is also a recording studio, with everything plugged into an audio interface and microphones etc.
So that precludes buying a laptop which you could use on the nine out of ten days you don’t use any other equipment?
I’m quite comfortable on this chair, with a nice big monitor. In fact I’m wanting an even bigger monitor, not a smaller one.
The armchairs in the living room are for reading and (much more rarely) watching telly.
Yeah, it would be nice to have a laptop in there as well, but it’s not one of my more urgently planned purchases.
good afternoon
I hope there is a way to keep the King Island dairy industry running. I like King Island cheese.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
So it’s not just me then that doesn’t like ABC’s changes.I thought I was just getting old and cranky. I still use my laptop as my main electronic device, both at home and at work. Really only use the mobile if I’m away from the laptop. Phone browsing requires reading glasses to see the text clearly, there is only so much zooming one can do before the scrolling becomes silly.
I hate using phones for the internet. The cool kids think this means I’m “conservative” but to me, using a shitty little screen for such things is very much a step backward.
Sure but what’is strange is your use of a desktop perched on a chair for computing. A laptop on a couch is far more comfortable.
I have a purpose built trolley/table on wheels. Works perfectly when set to 10-20mm abover armrest height.

monkey skipper said:
I hope there is a way to keep the King Island dairy industry running. I like King Island cheese.
It is fine cheese and I’m sure they’ll be back in business before long.
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
I hope there is a way to keep the King Island dairy industry running. I like King Island cheese.
It is fine cheese and I’m sure they’ll be back in business before long.
They’ve got from now and until 2025 to find a buyer of the business.
OCDC said:
JudgeMental said:
OCDC said:I suppose it could be if one is at work.RTFM.read the fromage menu?
wait they have specifications on ¿ how the organics interact with our genetically determined neurochemical sensory pathways
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:I hate using phones for the internet. The cool kids think this means I’m “conservative” but to me, using a shitty little screen for such things is very much a step backward.
Sure but what’is strange is your use of a desktop perched on a chair for computing. A laptop on a couch is far more comfortable.
I have a purpose built trolley/table on wheels. Works perfectly when set to 10-20mm abover armrest height.
Looks good but as I said, not on my urgent list when I already have two computers in the pooter room :)
If I was a rich man I’d have my own moated castle in the middle of 50 acres of beautiful forest by the sea, and a laptop to use in one of the comfy chairs in the living room, when I’m in there.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Sure but what’is strange is your use of a desktop perched on a chair for computing. A laptop on a couch is far more comfortable.
I have a purpose built trolley/table on wheels. Works perfectly when set to 10-20mm abover armrest height.
Looks good but as I said, not on my urgent list when I already have two computers in the pooter room :)
If I was a rich man I’d have my own moated castle in the middle of 50 acres of beautiful forest by the sea, and a laptop to use in one of the comfy chairs in the living room, when I’m in there.
You appear to be richer than myself.
Bubblecar said:
If I was a rich man I’d have my own moated castle in the middle of 50 acres of beautiful forest by the sea, and a laptop to use in one of the comfy chairs in the living room, when I’m in there.
Nice to see you’re a man of modest ambitions :)
For mine, I’d have a big super-modern dome in the middle of a walled oasis garden somewhere on the fringes of the outback.
Rather cruel Limmy laptop sketch:
Limmy’s Show: Laptop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKfAjlW6E30
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:I hate using phones for the internet. The cool kids think this means I’m “conservative” but to me, using a shitty little screen for such things is very much a step backward.
Sure but what’is strange is your use of a desktop perched on a chair for computing. A laptop on a couch is far more comfortable.
You may not have noticed that this computer room is also a recording studio, with everything plugged into an audio interface and microphones etc.
I’d love to be a proper musician but I’m just a bit rusty with the blues.

roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Sure but what’is strange is your use of a desktop perched on a chair for computing. A laptop on a couch is far more comfortable.
You may not have noticed that this computer room is also a recording studio, with everything plugged into an audio interface and microphones etc.
I’d love to be a proper musician but I’m just a bit rusty with the blues.
:)
OK pork and veg pasty let’s go.
I’ll cook the pork on the stovetop with onion, red capsicum, garlic and spices, and nuke some broccoli with diced tater.
Add them all together with some grated cheddar and more seasonings, dump all that on a sheet of puff pastry, fold, crimp and bake.
I will have steak with asparagus and sugar snaps and flavoured butter but I haven’t decided which yet.

OCDC said:
I will have steak with asparagus and sugar snaps and flavoured butter but I haven’t decided which yet.Update: garlic butter and a mountain of freshly cracked pepper
OCDC said:
OCDC said:I will have steak with asparagus and sugar snaps and flavoured butter but I haven’t decided which yet.Update: garlic butter and a mountain of freshly cracked pepper
Update on my pasty filling also includes freshly cracked pepper, and a small splodge of Greek yoghurt for added moisture.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:If I was a rich man I’d have my own moated castle in the middle of 50 acres of beautiful forest by the sea, and a laptop to use in one of the comfy chairs in the living room, when I’m in there.
Nice to see you’re a man of modest ambitions :)
For mine, I’d have a big super-modern dome in the middle of a walled oasis garden somewhere on the fringes of the outback.
If I was a rich man I wouldn’t have to work hard.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:If I was a rich man I’d have my own moated castle in the middle of 50 acres of beautiful forest by the sea, and a laptop to use in one of the comfy chairs in the living room, when I’m in there.
Nice to see you’re a man of modest ambitions :)
For mine, I’d have a big super-modern dome in the middle of a walled oasis garden somewhere on the fringes of the outback.
If I was a rich man I wouldn’t have to work hard.
And amongst your staircases there’d be one leading nowhere, just for show.
I’ve been trying to fit a12V electric tarp motor on my new 24V truck, and the operators manual says that there is a 12V power supply in the cab. It’s clearly marked 12V but is supplying 26V.
So, I’ve been trying to find a wiring diagram for my truck online to find out whats going on, but there doesn’t seem to be one. It’s a fairly common one, 2010 Isuzu Giga CXZ but google has turned up nuthin’.
Peak Warming Man said:
“The hay harvest, and the subsequent building of hayricks, was a significant event in the agricultural calendar, marking a period of intense communal activity. It was common for entire communities to come together to cut, dry, and stack the hay, a process that fostered a strong sense of community and cooperation.”
And then they’d dance on the common.
There was fucking in the haystacks, Fucking in the ricks,
You couldna hear the music, for the swishing of the pricks.
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:“The hay harvest, and the subsequent building of hayricks, was a significant event in the agricultural calendar, marking a period of intense communal activity. It was common for entire communities to come together to cut, dry, and stack the hay, a process that fostered a strong sense of community and cooperation.”
And then they’d dance on the common.
There was fucking in the haystacks, Fucking in the ricks,
You couldna hear the music, for the swishing of the pricks.
“Four and twenty virgins,
Came down from Inverness,
And when the ball was over
There were four and twenty less.”
Hehe.
Starliner has landed safely.
Kingy said:
Starliner has landed safely.
Yep, been following it.
RangerJudy 3h
September 7: Lady left the nest bowl just after 11pm last night. She came closer in the morning and straight to the nest when Dad brought an early gull chick meal at 6:31 – and both nestlings ate. They were then alone until Lady joined them on the nest at 9:48 –another sunny day. Another feed when Dad brought a small fish shortlyafter. Both Eagles brought more green leaves during the day. Magpie swoopers were bothering them in the afternoon . 16:24, Dad brought another gull chick, fed a little then Lady took over. Then a bigger gull. A good prey day. All have eaten well.

Kingy said:
I’ve been trying to fit a12V electric tarp motor on my new 24V truck, and the operators manual says that there is a 12V power supply in the cab. It’s clearly marked 12V but is supplying 26V.
So, I’ve been trying to find a wiring diagram for my truck online to find out whats going on, but there doesn’t seem to be one. It’s a fairly common one, 2010 Isuzu Giga CXZ but google has turned up nuthin’.
you can pick 12V up from the battery that is negative grounded to chassis, of two 12V batteries in series, ALWAYS use the battery that has the negative connected to chassis, NEVER use the second battery. If you use the second battery, for example install a CB radio, initially it looks like 12V if you measure two wired from that battery, but soon as(per example) you earth the base of your CB radio antenna, or brackets on the radio it goes up to the full series voltage of the two batteries. Puts a short across the first battery also maybe, anyway an electrical dog’s breakfast for the uninitiated
just so ya knows, the rule, don’t break the rule if you wires straight to one of two series batteries, pick the right battery, the chassis connected one
sarahs mum said:
but why not cover the snake in antiseptic, do they appreciate being smeared in human commensal potentially opportunistic pathogens
transition said:
Kingy said:
I’ve been trying to fit a12V electric tarp motor on my new 24V truck, and the operators manual says that there is a 12V power supply in the cab. It’s clearly marked 12V but is supplying 26V.
So, I’ve been trying to find a wiring diagram for my truck online to find out whats going on, but there doesn’t seem to be one. It’s a fairly common one, 2010 Isuzu Giga CXZ but google has turned up nuthin’.
you can pick 12V up from the battery that is negative grounded to chassis, of two 12V batteries in series, ALWAYS use the battery that has the negative connected to chassis, NEVER use the second battery. If you use the second battery, for example install a CB radio, initially it looks like 12V if you measure two wired from that battery, but soon as(per example) you earth the base of your CB radio antenna, or brackets on the radio it goes up to the full series voltage of the two batteries. Puts a short across the first battery also maybe, anyway an electrical dog’s breakfast for the uninitiated
just so ya knows, the rule, don’t break the rule if you wires straight to one of two series batteries, pick the right battery, the chassis connected one
But that will drain that battery.
Kingy said:
transition said:
Kingy said:
I’ve been trying to fit a12V electric tarp motor on my new 24V truck, and the operators manual says that there is a 12V power supply in the cab. It’s clearly marked 12V but is supplying 26V.
So, I’ve been trying to find a wiring diagram for my truck online to find out whats going on, but there doesn’t seem to be one. It’s a fairly common one, 2010 Isuzu Giga CXZ but google has turned up nuthin’.
you can pick 12V up from the battery that is negative grounded to chassis, of two 12V batteries in series, ALWAYS use the battery that has the negative connected to chassis, NEVER use the second battery. If you use the second battery, for example install a CB radio, initially it looks like 12V if you measure two wired from that battery, but soon as(per example) you earth the base of your CB radio antenna, or brackets on the radio it goes up to the full series voltage of the two batteries. Puts a short across the first battery also maybe, anyway an electrical dog’s breakfast for the uninitiated
just so ya knows, the rule, don’t break the rule if you wires straight to one of two series batteries, pick the right battery, the chassis connected one
But that will drain that battery.
can a bit, could be unsubstantial, not often used 12V tarp motor might qualify so, and probably even more insignificant if lot of operation was while vehicle engine running
Just watching the WA emergency services awards.
Ms Kingy was nominated but didn’t make the short list.
One of the local blokes is up for an award, so we are watching to see how he goes.
Kingy said:
Just watching the WA emergency services awards.Ms Kingy was nominated but didn’t make the short list.
One of the local blokes is up for an award, so we are watching to see how he goes.
Ah well congrats to Ms Kn for the nomination
dv said:
Kingy said:
Just watching the WA emergency services awards.Ms Kingy was nominated but didn’t make the short list.
One of the local blokes is up for an award, so we are watching to see how he goes.
Ah well congrats to Ms Kn for the nomination
+1
AussieDJ said:
dv said:
Kingy said:
Just watching the WA emergency services awards.Ms Kingy was nominated but didn’t make the short list.
One of the local blokes is up for an award, so we are watching to see how he goes.
Ah well congrats to Ms Kn for the nomination
+1
Two of our vollies are at the awards, one is a vegan and the other is a hungry carnivore. He will be eating her steak dinner as well as his own. He will also be drinking her booze. She will be ok with that, and he will be partying on late into the night.
Super typhoon yagi kinda fucked up a bit of china.
YouTube shows some of it.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees at the back door and overcast. We are forecast 15 degrees with showers.
I intend to mow the track sides at the wetland reserve today, but I may be thwarted by rain.
Morning munsters. No change in the weather, still expected to be wet and windy, max 13.
Sunday breakfast coming up of pork mince, eggs, peas, onion, sage, nutmeg, sat & pepper.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
quiz30/50.
20/50. Eight guesses. Only one that I knew for sure.
Yeah, I made a lot of guesses too.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
quiz30/50.
20/50. Eight guesses. Only one that I knew for sure.
25/50 :)
Including the last three.
Decided it’s actually too wet underfoot to mow at the reserve today. We will go to Digby and mr buffy can play with his tractor and I’ll do a short wander and see if there are any more flowers about. I need to make myself a little list to put in my pocket of what I reported last week…I try not to put more than one observation a month of any individual flower on iNaturalist. Of course, the proviso on that is that if I see a really beautiful specimen I will do that species again, even if I’ve already recorded it for the month.
Heading off to the bush shortly. There may be photos this evening.
buffy said:
Heading off to the bush shortly. There may be photos this evening.
Looking forward to them.
Really going this time.
>>Andrew Flintoff appointed as England Lions head coach
I thought Brendon McCullum had the job till 2026?
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Andrew Flintoff appointed as England Lions head coachI thought Brendon McCullum had the job till 2026?
Hold the phone England Lions is England A side.
made my own breakfast, kitchen staff all having the sunday off
transition said:
made my own breakfast, kitchen staff all having the sunday off
I’m guessing cornflakes.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
made my own breakfast, kitchen staff all having the sunday off
I’m guessing cornflakes.
you know it’s top secret, pointless asking, I will tell you it had milk with it, and wasn’t made from wheat, and was kept in a bowl with the help of magic known as gravity, I tell you any more i’d have to stop you breathing afterward, long enough to expire the activity in your CNS, so dire the situation would be, you’re a liability to an honest secret, an evil person
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Andrew Flintoff appointed as England Lions head coachI thought Brendon McCullum had the job till 2026?
Hold the phone England Lions is England A side.
Yeah, England and Whales is the senior team.
Aryna Sabalenka beats Jessica Pegula in 2
And..
Australian pair find redemption and break 28-year drought with US Open crown
Jordan Thompson and Max Purcell beat 10th seeds 6-4 7-6 (7-4)

Peak Warming Man said:
>>Andrew Flintoff appointed as England Lions head coachI thought Brendon McCullum had the job till 2026?
Apparently something must have changed. Probably had something to do with Duckworth?
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Andrew Flintoff appointed as England Lions head coachI thought Brendon McCullum had the job till 2026?
Hold the phone England Lions is England A side.
Yeah, England and Whales is the senior team.
Maybe I should pay more attention to pommieland?
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:Hold the phone England Lions is England A side.
Yeah, England and Whales is the senior team.
Maybe I should pay more attention to pommieland?
Nah, not really worth the effort.
Anyway, I still think all of their sporting teams should compete as “UK” and not as England, Scotland, Wales , NI.
Ian said:
Aryna Sabalenka beats Jessica Pegula in 2And..
Australian pair find redemption and break 28-year drought with US Open crown
Jordan Thompson and Max Purcell beat 10th seeds 6-4 7-6 (7-4)
:)
Sinner or Fritz for the men’s title?
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:Yeah, England and Whales is the senior team.
Maybe I should pay more attention to pommieland?
Nah, not really worth the effort.
Anyway, I still think all of their sporting teams should compete as “UK” and not as England, Scotland, Wales , NI.
Well, we have Sheffield Shield.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:Maybe I should pay more attention to pommieland?
Nah, not really worth the effort.
Anyway, I still think all of their sporting teams should compete as “UK” and not as England, Scotland, Wales , NI.
Well, we have Sheffield Shield.
That is the domestic competition, from which we select the best players to form one national team to compete on the international level. We don’t called the team NSW a pick a few ring-ins.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:Yeah, England and Whales is the senior team.
Maybe I should pay more attention to pommieland?
Nah, not really worth the effort.
Anyway, I still think all of their sporting teams should compete as “UK” and not as England, Scotland, Wales , NI.
How often would we win rugby tests then?
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:Nah, not really worth the effort.
Anyway, I still think all of their sporting teams should compete as “UK” and not as England, Scotland, Wales , NI.
Well, we have Sheffield Shield.
That is the domestic competition, from which we select the best players to form one national team to compete on the international level. We don’t called the team NSW a pick a few ring-ins.
True.
So essentially, though in name, they aren’t really the United Kingdom in cricket..
Ian said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:Maybe I should pay more attention to pommieland?
Nah, not really worth the effort.
Anyway, I still think all of their sporting teams should compete as “UK” and not as England, Scotland, Wales , NI.
How often would we win rugby tests then?
We’d probably be running third or fourth.
Michael V said:
Ian said:
Aryna Sabalenka beats Jessica Pegula in 2And..
Australian pair find redemption and break 28-year drought with US Open crown
Jordan Thompson and Max Purcell beat 10th seeds 6-4 7-6 (7-4)
:)
Sinner or Fritz for the men’s title?
Sure
Ian said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:Maybe I should pay more attention to pommieland?
Nah, not really worth the effort.
Anyway, I still think all of their sporting teams should compete as “UK” and not as England, Scotland, Wales , NI.
How often would we win rugby tests then?
A bit more frequently than is currently likely?

not a low status job, on a curve of learning today
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Ian said:
Aryna Sabalenka beats Jessica Pegula in 2And..
Australian pair find redemption and break 28-year drought with US Open crown
Jordan Thompson and Max Purcell beat 10th seeds 6-4 7-6 (7-4)
:)
Sinner or Fritz for the men’s title?
Sure
Which one do you think will win?
transition said:
not a low status job, on a curve of learning todayhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool
AKA khazi wallah
Michael V said:
Ian said:
Michael V said::)
Sinner or Fritz for the men’s title?
Sure
Which one do you think will win?
I’m tipping Sinner.
transition said:
not a low status job, on a curve of learning todayhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool
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transition said:
transition said:
not a low status job, on a curve of learning todayhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool
Didn’t this person use a handful of straw rather than a date roll?
Ian said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:Maybe I should pay more attention to pommieland?
Nah, not really worth the effort.
Anyway, I still think all of their sporting teams should compete as “UK” and not as England, Scotland, Wales , NI.
How often would we win rugby tests then?
Unknown. Maybe the game in Australia will fold.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Ian said:Sure
Which one do you think will win?
I’m tipping Sinner.
Sinner might fall short of the glory.
In case anyone is following the saga of my nephew.
after months in jail and more months where he had to live at my sister’s and report daily to the police station…in his court appearance friday they dropped almost all the charges. he has another appearance in november but he has already served more time than that is likely to be thrown at him then.
strange days.
sarahs mum said:
In case anyone is following the saga of my nephew.Will he / has he already move/d out of your sister’s?after months in jail and more months where he had to live at my sister’s and report daily to the police station…in his court appearance friday they dropped almost all the charges. he has another appearance in november but he has already served more time than that is likely to be thrown at him then.
strange days.
sarahs mum said:
In case anyone is following the saga of my nephew.after months in jail and more months where he had to live at my sister’s and report daily to the police station…in his court appearance friday they dropped almost all the charges. he has another appearance in november but he has already served more time than that is likely to be thrown at him then.
strange days.
It’s a quirky system, which can penalise people in so many ways even before judgement is passed.
On the other hand, there’s other places where ‘the system’ would entirely ignore any time spent in detention before judgement, and pass an additional sentence.
We’ve watched Planet of the Spiders in our Doctor Who watch, and hence completed the 3rd Doctor era.
The plot is pretty good. What seems to begin as a mystery surrounding an illusionist who suddenly has genuine magical powers evolves into a court intrigue between eight-legged critters who keep humans as serfs on Metebelis III, but there’s a lot happening apart from that.
The crystal that The Doctor stole from Metebelis III in The Green Death is returned to him by Jo Grant. Mike Yates completes his redemptive arc. The old man, the Abbot, who taught The Doctor when he was a child (mentioned in the Daisest Day speech in the Time Monster) is involved. I hope you like callbacks.
The eight legs leaping on Sarah Jane’s back and taking her over is one of my earliest clear TV memories, and when I saw Turn Left some 30 years later, this is what I thought of when Donna was afflicted by that beetle.
The Abbot tells The Doctor that not all spiders live on the back, and the latter understands that the meaning is that his greed for knowledge has precipitated all of these events and that he must return the crystal to its rightful place, even though this will destroy his body.
We see the first regeneration of a Time Lord other than The Doctor: the manner of it reminds of the 15th Doctor’s appearance. It’s also the first story with two regenerations, as Pertwee becomes Baker in the final seconds.
I appreciate it when good actors bring their A-game even when the material is outlandish. Even though it is a children’s show, you don’t have to give a children’s performance. The standout here is John Dearth as Lupton, who makes a bargain with a disloyal Eight Legs.
Gareth Hunt plays Arak. He played Mike in The New Avengers.
Ysanne Churchman (better known for voicing Alpha Centauri) and Kismet Delgado (widow of Roger) provided the Eight Legs voices.
OCDC said:
sarahs mum said:In case anyone is following the saga of my nephew.Will he / has he already move/d out of your sister’s?after months in jail and more months where he had to live at my sister’s and report daily to the police station…in his court appearance friday they dropped almost all the charges. he has another appearance in November but he has already served more time than that is likely to be thrown at him then.
strange days.
no. he’s still there. She’s got real estate agents showing the property every weekend. she plans to move into a retirement villa. mostly so peter does not have to work so hard at gardening and maintenance. nephew is upset because he does not want to move.
sarahs mum said:
OCDC said:Seems like nephew needs to suck it up.sarahs mum said:no. he’s still there. She’s got real estate agents showing the property every weekend. she plans to move into a retirement villa. mostly so peter does not have to work so hard at gardening and maintenance. nephew is upset because he does not want to move.In case anyone is following the saga of my nephew.Will he / has he already move/d out of your sister’s?after months in jail and more months where he had to live at my sister’s and report daily to the police station…in his court appearance friday they dropped almost all the charges. he has another appearance in November but he has already served more time than that is likely to be thrown at him then.
strange days.
OCDC said:
sarahs mum said:OCDC said:Seems like nephew needs to suck it up.Will he / has he already move/d out of your sister’s?no. he’s still there. She’s got real estate agents showing the property every weekend. she plans to move into a retirement villa. mostly so peter does not have to work so hard at gardening and maintenance. nephew is upset because he does not want to move.
never occurred to him to help with the gardening?
dv said:
We’ve watched Planet of the Spiders in our Doctor Who watch, and hence completed the 3rd Doctor era.The plot is pretty good. What seems to begin as a mystery surrounding an illusionist who suddenly has genuine magical powers evolves into a court intrigue between eight-legged critters who keep humans as serfs on Metebelis III, but there’s a lot happening apart from that.
The crystal that The Doctor stole from Metebelis III in The Green Death is returned to him by Jo Grant. Mike Yates completes his redemptive arc. The old man, the Abbot, who taught The Doctor when he was a child (mentioned in the Daisest Day speech in the Time Monster) is involved. I hope you like callbacks.The eight legs leaping on Sarah Jane’s back and taking her over is one of my earliest clear TV memories, and when I saw Turn Left some 30 years later, this is what I thought of when Donna was afflicted by that beetle.
The Abbot tells The Doctor that not all spiders live on the back, and the latter understands that the meaning is that his greed for knowledge has precipitated all of these events and that he must return the crystal to its rightful place, even though this will destroy his body.
We see the first regeneration of a Time Lord other than The Doctor: the manner of it reminds of the 15th Doctor’s appearance. It’s also the first story with two regenerations, as Pertwee becomes Baker in the final seconds.I appreciate it when good actors bring their A-game even when the material is outlandish. Even though it is a children’s show, you don’t have to give a children’s performance. The standout here is John Dearth as Lupton, who makes a bargain with a disloyal Eight Legs.
Gareth Hunt plays Arak. He played Mike in The New Avengers.
Ysanne Churchman (better known for voicing Alpha Centauri) and Kismet Delgado (widow of Roger) provided the Eight Legs voices.
Don’t remember much about that one apart from the chanting faithful.
Ian said:
Aryna Sabalenka beats Jessica Pegula in 2And..
Australian pair find redemption and break 28-year drought with US Open crown
Jordan Thompson and Max Purcell beat 10th seeds 6-4 7-6 (7-4)
28 years… time certainly flies
>>Kismet Delgado (widow of Roger)
Roger was killed in a car accident while on location.
Rogers full name was Roger Caesar Marius Bernard de Delgado Torres Castillo Roberto I think from memory.
Hang on I’ll check.
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Kismet Delgado (widow of Roger)Roger was killed in a car accident while on location.
Rogers full name was Roger Caesar Marius Bernard de Delgado Torres Castillo Roberto I think from memory.
Hang on I’ll check.
Yeah that’s right.
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Kismet Delgado (widow of Roger)Roger was killed in a car accident while on location.
Rogers full name was Roger Caesar Marius Bernard de Delgado Torres Castillo Roberto I think from memory.
Hang on I’ll check.
chuckle
i’m have lunch now, noodles it will be, take my tablets with, a combination analgesic, an antihistamine, and a no-doz, perhaps some extra zinc
dv said:
Ian said:
Aryna Sabalenka beats Jessica Pegula in 2And..
Australian pair find redemption and break 28-year drought with US Open crown
Jordan Thompson and Max Purcell beat 10th seeds 6-4 7-6 (7-4)
28 years… time certainly flies
Ya, time flies like an arrow; fruit like.. not really
Aryna Sabalenka is a good looking filly.
Ian said:
dv said:Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.Ian said:Ya, time flies like an arrow; fruit like.. not reallySabalenka beats Jessica Pegula in 228 years… time certainly fliesAnd..
Australian pair find redemption and break 28-year drought with US Open crown
Jordan Thompson and Max Purcell beat 10th seeds 6-4 7-6 (7-4)
Time for a banana nap.
If anyone wants me, tell them 泡泡车现在正在睡觉。
Bubblecar said:
Time for a banana nap.If anyone wants me, tell them 泡泡车现在正在睡觉。
That’s easy for you to say.
Kiwi actually an Australian immigrant, experts say
12:20 pm on 4 September 2024
Some species long thought to be native to New Zealand are actually Australian immigrants, new research has found.
Palaeontologists excavating the St Bathans fossil site in Central Otago say kiwi, moa and Takahē came from Australia just a few million years ago.
Read more:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/527019/kiwi-actually-an-australian-immigrant-experts-say
Witty Rejoinder said:
Kiwi actually an Australian immigrant, experts say” Scofield also urged people to consider these new findings when voting for Bird of the Year, so as not to crown an Australian immigrant with the title.”
12:20 pm on 4 September 2024Some species long thought to be native to New Zealand are actually Australian immigrants, new research has found.
Palaeontologists excavating the St Bathans fossil site in Central Otago say kiwi, moa and Takahē came from Australia just a few million years ago.
Read more:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/527019/kiwi-actually-an-australian-immigrant-experts-say
lolz
Please excuse my embarrassing quotation mark fail.
And we are back. Almost got leeched…I caught the bugger on the leg of my pants before it could find skin to attach to. Got some photos but they need sorting and cropping and some of them will have to be adjusted for brightness I think.
sarahs mum said:
In case anyone is following the saga of my nephew.after months in jail and more months where he had to live at my sister’s and report daily to the police station…in his court appearance friday they dropped almost all the charges. he has another appearance in november but he has already served more time than that is likely to be thrown at him then.
strange days.
You are actually allowed to be strange, in these days.
sarahs mum said:
OCDC said:
sarahs mum said:no. he’s still there. She’s got real estate agents showing the property every weekend. she plans to move into a retirement villa. mostly so peter does not have to work so hard at gardening and maintenance. nephew is upset because he does not want to move.Seems like nephew needs to suck it up.
never occurred to him to help with the gardening?
I’ve known people who believe that you’ll let them live on the property where you work, because they’ll do a bit of gardening.
It pays to know where you stand, even if they are a friend.
dv said:
Ian said:
Aryna Sabalenka beats Jessica Pegula in 2And..
Australian pair find redemption and break 28-year drought with US Open crown
Jordan Thompson and Max Purcell beat 10th seeds 6-4 7-6 (7-4)
28 years… time certainly flies
Appearances can be fooling.
Ian said:
dv said:
Ian said:
Aryna Sabalenka beats Jessica Pegula in 2And..
Australian pair find redemption and break 28-year drought with US Open crown
Jordan Thompson and Max Purcell beat 10th seeds 6-4 7-6 (7-4)
28 years… time certainly flies
Ya, time flies like an arrow; fruit like.. not really
Strange that you say that because Fontainemelon or Fabrique d’Horlogerie de Fontainemelon (FHF) was set up in 1793 to supply the Swiss watch industry with ébauches (bare movements) to reduce reliance on the …
Used the arrow through the apple as their trademak insignia way back in the early dys.
buffy said:
And we are back. Almost got leeched…I caught the bugger on the leg of my pants before it could find skin to attach to. Got some photos but they need sorting and cropping and some of them will have to be adjusted for brightness I think.
I was marring and when I had a break, a neighbour called and asked me to come down and take way some orchids and elkhorns. I said I’ve just stopped for a beer so I’ll come down. He said, well everyone else here walks around with a beer in hand so that won’t be noticeably different. Ended up with me talking with another neighbour about cat traps.
Which meant that only now am I able to get back to marring.
I had a digestive I did, like a granita with chocolate on one side, bit like calling cocaine nasal cleansing dust I reckon
not much else to report, did I mention I had a sleep, yeah nah possibly not, how remiss of me, might further add while i’m at it that i’ve woken now, i’m awake, i’ve desisted from that sleep, i’m here actually in actuality in fact truly not a lie or hint of inexactitude
in other news lady cleaning out the cupboard found a couple of lonely Southwark beers useby date 14/12/23, she wants to ditch them, I said nah, then yeah, was in a state of indecision, anyway I said give them to the snails, so she’s doing that, big party for the snails tonight, huge piss up, exploring the equivalency of scales regard that and substitute a keg, be a huge keg wouldn’t it
so ends this brief episode of typing practice, don’t you feel lucky today to have discovered it, and read it
i’m in a sharing mood
Violent wind-crazed rain this end. Getting a bit tired of histrionic weather.
transition said:
I had a digestive I did, like a granita with chocolate on one side, bit like calling cocaine nasal cleansing dust I reckonnot much else to report, did I mention I had a sleep, yeah nah possibly not, how remiss of me, might further add while i’m at it that i’ve woken now, i’m awake, i’ve desisted from that sleep, i’m here actually in actuality in fact truly not a lie or hint of inexactitude
in other news lady cleaning out the cupboard found a couple of lonely Southwark beers useby date 14/12/23, she wants to ditch them, I said nah, then yeah, was in a state of indecision, anyway I said give them to the snails, so she’s doing that, big party for the snails tonight, huge piss up, exploring the equivalency of scales regard that and substitute a keg, be a huge keg wouldn’t it
so ends this brief episode of typing practice, don’t you feel lucky today to have discovered it, and read it
i’m in a sharing mood
Heh.
In case any of you listen to the opera show on ABC classic his evening – I was at school with Jordie. I’ve heard her a bit on nights but it’s good to see her get a more respectable time.
OCDC said:
In case any of you listen to the opera show on ABC classic his evening – I was at school with Jordie. I’ve heard her a bit on nights but it’s good to see her get a more respectable time.
Talent deserves respect.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
I had a digestive I did, like a granita with chocolate on one side, bit like calling cocaine nasal cleansing dust I reckonnot much else to report, did I mention I had a sleep, yeah nah possibly not, how remiss of me, might further add while i’m at it that i’ve woken now, i’m awake, i’ve desisted from that sleep, i’m here actually in actuality in fact truly not a lie or hint of inexactitude
in other news lady cleaning out the cupboard found a couple of lonely Southwark beers useby date 14/12/23, she wants to ditch them, I said nah, then yeah, was in a state of indecision, anyway I said give them to the snails, so she’s doing that, big party for the snails tonight, huge piss up, exploring the equivalency of scales regard that and substitute a keg, be a huge keg wouldn’t it
so ends this brief episode of typing practice, don’t you feel lucky today to have discovered it, and read it
i’m in a sharing mood
Heh.
UPDATE!
lady’s making scones!, overcome the temporary breadlessness until next shopping, you aren’t getting any, master car, undeserving creature you are, you can explore your envy, report back later while i’m giving a report while eating them
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
I had a digestive I did, like a granita with chocolate on one side, bit like calling cocaine nasal cleansing dust I reckonnot much else to report, did I mention I had a sleep, yeah nah possibly not, how remiss of me, might further add while i’m at it that i’ve woken now, i’m awake, i’ve desisted from that sleep, i’m here actually in actuality in fact truly not a lie or hint of inexactitude
in other news lady cleaning out the cupboard found a couple of lonely Southwark beers useby date 14/12/23, she wants to ditch them, I said nah, then yeah, was in a state of indecision, anyway I said give them to the snails, so she’s doing that, big party for the snails tonight, huge piss up, exploring the equivalency of scales regard that and substitute a keg, be a huge keg wouldn’t it
so ends this brief episode of typing practice, don’t you feel lucky today to have discovered it, and read it
i’m in a sharing mood
Heh.
UPDATE!
lady’s making scones!, overcome the temporary breadlessness until next shopping, you aren’t getting any, master car, undeserving creature you are, you can explore your envy, report back later while i’m giving a report while eating them
That’s alright, I’m happy for you to be enjoying scones without me getting any.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:Heh.
UPDATE!
lady’s making scones!, overcome the temporary breadlessness until next shopping, you aren’t getting any, master car, undeserving creature you are, you can explore your envy, report back later while i’m giving a report while eating them
That’s alright, I’m happy for you to be enjoying scones without me getting any.
I’d prefer anyone else to eat them. I usually leave them in their pot plants.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:UPDATE!
lady’s making scones!, overcome the temporary breadlessness until next shopping, you aren’t getting any, master car, undeserving creature you are, you can explore your envy, report back later while i’m giving a report while eating them
That’s alright, I’m happy for you to be enjoying scones without me getting any.
I’d prefer anyone else to eat them. I usually leave them in their pot plants.
I like scones but transition needs them more than I do.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:That’s alright, I’m happy for you to be enjoying scones without me getting any.
I’d prefer anyone else to eat them. I usually leave them in their pot plants.
I like scones but transition needs them more than I do.
Tthat of course is very brave of you.
in the oven the scones are in the oven
210C for 25minutes we tries
they just in shortly ago already be risin’
tea and scones it’s gonna be
i’m salivating saliva
transition said:
tea and scones it’s gonna bei’m salivating saliva
That’s reassuring.
transition said:
tea and scones it’s gonna bei’m salivating saliva
These scones, are they phosphate raising agent or other?
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
tea and scones it’s gonna bei’m salivating saliva
That’s reassuring.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
tea and scones it’s gonna bei’m salivating saliva
That’s reassuring.
first time she made scones since been married, perhaps further back to forever, what sort of deprivation have I endured

transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
tea and scones it’s gonna bei’m salivating saliva
That’s reassuring.
first time she made scones since been married, perhaps further back to forever, what sort of deprivation have I endured
I’m sure you got along OK.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
tea and scones it’s gonna bei’m salivating saliva
That’s reassuring.
first time she made scones since been married, perhaps further back to forever, what sort of deprivation have I endured
Well done. Wotcha gonna have on them?
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
tea and scones it’s gonna bei’m salivating saliva
That’s reassuring.
first time she made scones since been married, perhaps further back to forever, what sort of deprivation have I endured
They should go well with cream a strawberry jam.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:That’s reassuring.
first time she made scones since been married, perhaps further back to forever, what sort of deprivation have I endured
Well done. Wotcha gonna have on them?
margarine and promite, not much else here, need to go shopping
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:That’s reassuring.
first time she made scones since been married, perhaps further back to forever, what sort of deprivation have I endured
They should go well with cream a strawberry jam.
This is their purpose in life.
I got very excited to see a new burger place opening up in the next suburb. Took a squizz at their new website. Wagyu burgers. Yeah nah, you can keep your ridiculous wagyu burgers. And as for your truffle mayo…..pfffft….
RangerJudy 2h
September 8: a very early feed for the nestlings from gull leftovers and Lady was off again before 6:30. Lady again slept out of the nest bowl most of the night. There seemed to be an owl swooping past earlier. Dad was seen down in Yaralla Bay, then caught a young gull off a boat there.-chased by a mob of angry gulls. Lady was quick to grab it on delivery at 8:36, Both fed, then more when he brought a fish some time later just after 10:30. 2 full nestlings. When she returned after 1pm, neither was very interested in leftovers. Both managed another meal later around 2:30. Around 3pm, duet was heard and magpie swooper arrived. Lady showed up with a bream just after 4pm, followed in by Dad, though he left.SE34 ate first, then 33 back for more. We hear them chittering now. They slept and rested then to the evening, Lady brought more leaves at 17:45. before settling nearby near Dad. Ample prey today.
Peak Warming Man said:
RangerJudy 2h
September 8: a very early feed for the nestlings from gull leftovers and Lady was off again before 6:30. Lady again slept out of the nest bowl most of the night. There seemed to be an owl swooping past earlier. Dad was seen down in Yaralla Bay, then caught a young gull off a boat there.-chased by a mob of angry gulls. Lady was quick to grab it on delivery at 8:36, Both fed, then more when he brought a fish some time later just after 10:30. 2 full nestlings. When she returned after 1pm, neither was very interested in leftovers. Both managed another meal later around 2:30. Around 3pm, duet was heard and magpie swooper arrived. Lady showed up with a bream just after 4pm, followed in by Dad, though he left.SE34 ate first, then 33 back for more. We hear them chittering now. They slept and rested then to the evening, Lady brought more leaves at 17:45. before settling nearby near Dad. Ample prey today.
Goodo.

that looked frustrating cutting stump of a massive oak had rocks in it, got desperate there started sharpening chainsaw with angle grinder, I know about rocks and metal in wood, from using ax and chainsaw, not uncommon find limestone in mallee stumps
https://youtu.be/wo5cglJVZ6M?t=1426
A shocking find in an ancient oak stump
transition said:
that looked frustrating cutting stump of a massive oak had rocks in it, got desperate there started sharpening chainsaw with angle grinder, I know about rocks and metal in wood, from using ax and chainsaw, not uncommon find limestone in mallee stumpshttps://youtu.be/wo5cglJVZ6M?t=1426
A shocking find in an ancient oak stump
oh using grinder there to take the whatever called make teeth cut deeper, I reckons
what an effort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnlMX9FxvN0
Shocking find worth tens of thousands of dollars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog-wood
“ Bog-wood (also spelled bogwood or bog wood), also known as abonos and, especially amongst pipe smokers, as morta, is a material from trees that have been buried in peat bogs and preserved from decay by the acidic and anaerobic bog conditions, sometimes for hundreds or even thousands of years. The wood is usually stained brown by tannins dissolved in the acidic water. Bog-wood represents the early stages in the fossilisation of wood, with further stages ultimately forming jet, lignite and coal over a period of many millions of years. Bog-wood may come from any tree species naturally growing near or in bogs, including oak (Quercus – “bog oak”), pine (Pinus), yew (Taxus), swamp cypress (Taxodium) and kauri (Agathis). Bog-wood is often removed from fields and placed in clearance cairns. It is a rare form of timber that is claimed to be “comparable to some of the world’s most expensive tropical hardwoods”.
Formation process
Bog-wood is created from the trunks of trees that have lain in bogs, and bog-like conditions such as lakes, river bottoms and swamps, for centuries and even millennia. Deprived of oxygen, the wood undergoes the process of fossilization…”
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnlMX9FxvN0
Shocking find worth tens of thousands of dollarshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog-wood
“ Bog-wood (also spelled bogwood or bog wood), also known as abonos and, especially amongst pipe smokers, as morta, is a material from trees that have been buried in peat bogs and preserved from decay by the acidic and anaerobic bog conditions, sometimes for hundreds or even thousands of years. The wood is usually stained brown by tannins dissolved in the acidic water. Bog-wood represents the early stages in the fossilisation of wood, with further stages ultimately forming jet, lignite and coal over a period of many millions of years. Bog-wood may come from any tree species naturally growing near or in bogs, including oak (Quercus – “bog oak”), pine (Pinus), yew (Taxus), swamp cypress (Taxodium) and kauri (Agathis). Bog-wood is often removed from fields and placed in clearance cairns. It is a rare form of timber that is claimed to be “comparable to some of the world’s most expensive tropical hardwoods”.
Formation process
Bog-wood is created from the trunks of trees that have lain in bogs, and bog-like conditions such as lakes, river bottoms and swamps, for centuries and even millennia. Deprived of oxygen, the wood undergoes the process of fossilization…”
swear they had some of that shit out at Hazelwood when we checked it out
see nobody would ever find this valuable shit if we stuck to renewables and dirty clean energy, how good is digging up black shit and burning it
when you can’t take it back to the British Museum.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-08/dolerite-cliffs-tasman-peninsula-practice-target-royal-navy/104281034
sarahs mum said:
when you can’t take it back to the British Museum.
Ah well at least these days Rio Tinto can get some nice ore out of doing that kind of thing and raw materials they can send back to the motherland ¡
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
when you can’t take it back to the British Museum.
Ah well at least these days Rio Tinto can get some nice ore out of doing that kind of thing and raw materials they can send back to the motherland ¡
there is money being made taking tourists out to the Cape these days. I wonder how much they would pay to see it in its pre bombed state…
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
when you can’t take it back to the British Museum.
Ah well at least these days Rio Tinto can get some nice ore out of doing that kind of thing and raw materials they can send back to the motherland ¡
there is money being made taking tourists out to the Cape these days. I wonder how much they would pay to see it in its pre bombed state…
we don’t have a whole heap of liquid money or liquid time to go on sightseeing trips but pretty sure we would prefer to see turrakana or Juukan Gorge unbombed rather than after
Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-08/earthquake-swarm-mining-muswellbrook-hunter-seismologist-explain/104323622
sarahs mum said:
when you can’t take it back to the British Museum.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-08/dolerite-cliffs-tasman-peninsula-practice-target-royal-navy/104281034
Glad they didn’t shell “The Monument”. That’s amazing.
sarahs mum said:
Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-08/earthquake-swarm-mining-muswellbrook-hunter-seismologist-explain/104323622
I know Trevor Allen quite well.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-08/earthquake-swarm-mining-muswellbrook-hunter-seismologist-explain/104323622
I know Trevor Allen quite well.
Well I won’t hold that against him.
watching and reading
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_Back_(2010_film)
“The Way Back is a 2010 American survival film directed by Peter Weir, from a screenplay by Weir and Keith Clarke. The film is inspired by The Long Walk (1956), the memoir by former Polish prisoner of war Sławomir Rawicz, who claimed to have escaped from a Soviet Gulag and walked 4,000 miles (6,400 km) to freedom in World War II. The film stars Jim Sturgess, Colin Farrell, Ed Harris, and Saoirse Ronan, with Alexandru Potocean, Sebastian Urzendowsky, Gustaf Skarsgård, Dragoș Bucur and Mark Strong..”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag
“The Gulag was a system of forced labor camps in the Soviet Union. The word Gulag originally referred only to the division of the Soviet secret police that was in charge of running the forced labor camps from the 1930s to the early 1950s during Joseph Stalin’s rule, but in English literature the term is popularly used for the system of forced labor throughout the Soviet era. The abbreviation GULAG (ГУЛАГ) stands for “Гла́вное Управле́ние исправи́тельно-трудовы́х ЛАГере́й” (Main Directorate of Correctional Labour Camps), but the full official name of the agency changed several times.
The Gulag is recognized as a major instrument of political repression in the Soviet Union. The camps housed both ordinary criminals and political prisoners, a large number of whom were convicted by simplified procedures, such as NKVD troikas or other instruments of extrajudicial punishment…”
I think I’ve finished all the quotes and the bills.
The super urgent jobs are all done, now I can go back to just working a normal week. (Lol, ‘sif).
Oh, what’s this? You need a block cleared by Tuesday, yeah ok, I’ll do my best.
At least I got a few hours off today.
sarahs mum said:
Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-08/earthquake-swarm-mining-muswellbrook-hunter-seismologist-explain/104323622
Mining induced seismicity is nothing new. The question here is if mining of the scale and depth that is common the Hunter could cause a redistribution of stress sufficient enough to lead to an event large enough to lead to structure damage in places like Newcastle or Sydney. The answer to that question is almost certainly, no.
diddly-squat said:
sarahs mum said:
Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-08/earthquake-swarm-mining-muswellbrook-hunter-seismologist-explain/104323622
Mining induced seismicity is nothing new. The question here is if mining of the scale and depth that is common the Hunter could cause a redistribution of stress sufficient enough to lead to an event large enough to lead to structure damage in places like Newcastle or Sydney. The answer to that question is almost certainly, no.
even though Newcastle has a history of being destructured.
sarahs mum said:
diddly-squat said:
sarahs mum said:
Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-08/earthquake-swarm-mining-muswellbrook-hunter-seismologist-explain/104323622
Mining induced seismicity is nothing new. The question here is if mining of the scale and depth that is common the Hunter could cause a redistribution of stress sufficient enough to lead to an event large enough to lead to structure damage in places like Newcastle or Sydney. The answer to that question is almost certainly, no.
even though Newcastle has a history of being destructured.
Muswellbrook is 120km from Newcastle.
The Mt Arthur coal mine is about 220m deep.
The impacts of mining on ground control tend to be localised to the area surrounding the excavation and tend not to have regional impacts.
Hard Quiz.
295/590
A couple of guesses, four I knew, but I am embarrassed to know about Alan Bonds crooked bullshit.
The “Bond” University should petition to change it’s name to the “Bell Resources” University.
Because that is where he stole all the money from.
Good morning…
https://www.msn.com/en-au/video/webcontent/earth-two-billion-years-in-the-future-spaces-deepest-secrets-science-channel/vi-8B39vWIkEr0TMA?vid=thJnlk-tivE&provider=yt&ocid=socialshare
Earth, Two Billion Years in the Future | Space’s Deepest Secrets | Science Channel
What’s in store for Earth, two billion years into the future? Our closest neighbor, Venus, may provide haunting insight.
Morning scooters. Bit less wet and windy today, otherwise much the same.
I have an inspection on Friday so I want to get the place perfick before Thursday, as I’ll be doing some shopping and receiving a Coles delivery on that day and don’t want to be bothering wiith major housework as well.
So today I’ll be doing the surfaces in various rooms. Will also find time for some music practice and possibly some wagon painting.
Bubblecar said:
Morning scooters. Bit less wet and windy today, otherwise much the same.I have an inspection on Friday so I want to get the place perfick before Thursday, as I’ll be doing some shopping and receiving a Coles delivery on that day and don’t want to be bothering wiith major housework as well.
So today I’ll be doing the surfaces in various rooms. Will also find time for some music practice and possibly some wagon painting.
Wagon painting?
monkey skipper said:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/video/webcontent/earth-two-billion-years-in-the-future-spaces-deepest-secrets-science-channel/vi-8B39vWIkEr0TMA?vid=thJnlk-tivE&provider=yt&ocid=socialshareEarth, Two Billion Years in the Future | Space’s Deepest Secrets | Science Channel
What’s in store for Earth, two billion years into the future? Our closest neighbor, Venus, may provide haunting insight.
That’s quite along time, no need to panic.
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/video/webcontent/earth-two-billion-years-in-the-future-spaces-deepest-secrets-science-channel/vi-8B39vWIkEr0TMA?vid=thJnlk-tivE&provider=yt&ocid=socialshareEarth, Two Billion Years in the Future | Space’s Deepest Secrets | Science Channel
What’s in store for Earth, two billion years into the future? Our closest neighbor, Venus, may provide haunting insight.
That’s quite along time, no need to panic.
along = a long
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
Morning scooters. Bit less wet and windy today, otherwise much the same.I have an inspection on Friday so I want to get the place perfick before Thursday, as I’ll be doing some shopping and receiving a Coles delivery on that day and don’t want to be bothering wiith major housework as well.
So today I’ll be doing the surfaces in various rooms. Will also find time for some music practice and possibly some wagon painting.
Wagon painting?
Model railway wagons.
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/video/webcontent/earth-two-billion-years-in-the-future-spaces-deepest-secrets-science-channel/vi-8B39vWIkEr0TMA?vid=thJnlk-tivE&provider=yt&ocid=socialshareEarth, Two Billion Years in the Future | Space’s Deepest Secrets | Science Channel
What’s in store for Earth, two billion years into the future? Our closest neighbor, Venus, may provide haunting insight.
That’s quite along time, no need to panic.
Well, unless they find away around the diminishing Y chromosome , there won’t be a need to planet hop to safety as the human race would have become extinct well before then…
do these interconnect
with these

monkey skipper said:
do these interconnect
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with these
Could be, well spotted.
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/video/webcontent/earth-two-billion-years-in-the-future-spaces-deepest-secrets-science-channel/vi-8B39vWIkEr0TMA?vid=thJnlk-tivE&provider=yt&ocid=socialshareEarth, Two Billion Years in the Future | Space’s Deepest Secrets | Science Channel
What’s in store for Earth, two billion years into the future? Our closest neighbor, Venus, may provide haunting insight.
That’s quite along time, no need to panic.
Well, unless they find away around the diminishing Y chromosome , there won’t be a need to planet hop to safety as the human race would have become extinct well before then…
I can’t imagine humans deciding to retain their current form in the future when they’ll presumably have the ability to take control of human evolution and change this way and that.
There might be various religious sects who refuse to join in, thus ensuring their own extinction one way or another.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees at the back door and lightly overcast. We are forecast 14 degrees with a shower or two.
Warrnambool today for eye checks for both of us.
Morning pilgrims, lovely sunny day in the pearl.
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/video/webcontent/earth-two-billion-years-in-the-future-spaces-deepest-secrets-science-channel/vi-8B39vWIkEr0TMA?vid=thJnlk-tivE&provider=yt&ocid=socialshareEarth, Two Billion Years in the Future | Space’s Deepest Secrets | Science Channel
What’s in store for Earth, two billion years into the future? Our closest neighbor, Venus, may provide haunting insight.
That’s quite along time, no need to panic.
Well, unless they find away around the diminishing Y chromosome , there won’t be a need to planet hop to safety as the human race would have become extinct well before then…
I think humans will likely become extinct as a result of our polluting practices which we don’t seem to grapple with easily.
diddly-squat said:
sarahs mum said:
Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-08/earthquake-swarm-mining-muswellbrook-hunter-seismologist-explain/104323622
Mining induced seismicity is nothing new. The question here is if mining of the scale and depth that is common the Hunter could cause a redistribution of stress sufficient enough to lead to an event large enough to lead to structure damage in places like Newcastle or Sydney. The answer to that question is almost certainly, no.
1) Why is that the question? I can’t see how that question is even implied, let alone the one and only question.
2) I guess you know they had an earthquake in Newcastle a few years ago. How can it be shown that that was “almost certainly” nothing to do with mining?
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, lovely sunny day in the pearl.
And here, too.
Good morning everybody.
13.3° C, 97% RH, clear and calm here. BoM forecasts a top of 27°C and no rain.
Agenda: Mrs V’s low kJ day. I’ll be making an enokitake soup for dinner, inspired by this recipe – there are some volume errors in the recipe which will have to be corrected by trial and error, but it does look gorgeous:

https://www.chinasichuanfood.com/easy-enoki-mushroom-soup/#recipe
The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:
sarahs mum said:
Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-08/earthquake-swarm-mining-muswellbrook-hunter-seismologist-explain/104323622
Mining induced seismicity is nothing new. The question here is if mining of the scale and depth that is common the Hunter could cause a redistribution of stress sufficient enough to lead to an event large enough to lead to structure damage in places like Newcastle or Sydney. The answer to that question is almost certainly, no.
1) Why is that the question? I can’t see how that question is even implied, let alone the one and only question.
2) I guess you know they had an earthquake in Newcastle a few years ago. How can it be shown that that was “almost certainly” nothing to do with mining?
1) because that is the question that was asked
2) because like I said, changes in the in situ stress distribution as a result of mining are localised to the excavation. There have been literally thousands of in situ stress measurements made across the Hunter and Lake Macquarie regions over that past fifty years. None have shown regional scale changes to the stress regime.
Oh, and I have a wombok, so I probably should make some kimchi today. Hopefully I can raise some energy to do the job.
Michael V said:
Oh, and I have a wombok, so I probably should make some kimchi today. Hopefully I can raise some energy to do the job.
Goodo :)
There’s half a wombok in my Coles order this week, but as a salad item.
I will have a go at making my own kimchi eventually.
diddly-squat said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:Mining induced seismicity is nothing new. The question here is if mining of the scale and depth that is common the Hunter could cause a redistribution of stress sufficient enough to lead to an event large enough to lead to structure damage in places like Newcastle or Sydney. The answer to that question is almost certainly, no.
1) Why is that the question? I can’t see how that question is even implied, let alone the one and only question.
2) I guess you know they had an earthquake in Newcastle a few years ago. How can it be shown that that was “almost certainly” nothing to do with mining?
1) because that is the question that was asked
2) because like I said, changes in the in situ stress distribution as a result of mining are localised to the excavation. There have been literally thousands of in situ stress measurements made across the Hunter and Lake Macquarie regions over that past fifty years. None have shown regional scale changes to the stress regime.
1) No it wasn’t.
2) If people who have spent their working life studying earthquake behaviour in Australia are unable to be sure if recent earthquakes are connected with mining or not, I doubt if you are, unless you have been keeping quiet about what you actually do.
Do I want this ring? Opal and old whisky barrel wood set in tungsten.

Bubblecar said:
Do I want this ring? Opal and old whisky barrel wood set in tungsten.
Don’t be ridiculous, what do you want with bling?
Bubblecar said:
Do I want this ring? Opal and old whisky barrel wood set in tungsten.
Is that the only photo?
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Do I want this ring? Opal and old whisky barrel wood set in tungsten.
Is that the only photo?
More here:
https://gentlebands.com/product/hunting/?_gl=1*r3q7sm*_up*MQ..&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-daQ8LK0iAMV3wCDAx0NrQFBEAEYASACEgJuzvD_BwE
The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:
The Rev Dodgson said:1) Why is that the question? I can’t see how that question is even implied, let alone the one and only question.
2) I guess you know they had an earthquake in Newcastle a few years ago. How can it be shown that that was “almost certainly” nothing to do with mining?
1) because that is the question that was asked
2) because like I said, changes in the in situ stress distribution as a result of mining are localised to the excavation. There have been literally thousands of in situ stress measurements made across the Hunter and Lake Macquarie regions over that past fifty years. None have shown regional scale changes to the stress regime.
1) No it wasn’t.
2) If people who have spent their working life studying earthquake behaviour in Australia are unable to be sure if recent earthquakes are connected with mining or not, I doubt if you are, unless you have been keeping quiet about what you actually do.
Anyway, this is QI:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Do I want this ring? Opal and old whisky barrel wood set in tungsten.
Is that the only photo?
More here:
https://gentlebands.com/product/hunting/?_gl=1*r3q7sm*_up*MQ..&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-daQ8LK0iAMV3wCDAx0NrQFBEAEYASACEgJuzvD_BwE
I wonder how they get the opal to conform to the ring.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:Is that the only photo?
More here:
https://gentlebands.com/product/hunting/?_gl=1*r3q7sm*_up*MQ..&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-daQ8LK0iAMV3wCDAx0NrQFBEAEYASACEgJuzvD_BwE
I wonder how they get the opal to conform to the ring.
There is a lot to wonder about.
Still quite seedy today but I’ll try to do some housework. Brekkie was made the other day, still a few more in the fridge. Hopefully I’ll be able to eat the curry today.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Do I want this ring? Opal and old whisky barrel wood set in tungsten.
Is that the only photo?
More here:
https://gentlebands.com/product/hunting/?_gl=1*r3q7sm*_up*MQ..&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-daQ8LK0iAMV3wCDAx0NrQFBEAEYASACEgJuzvD_BwE
That’s a bastard of a website as far as too many cookies.
The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:
The Rev Dodgson said:1) Why is that the question? I can’t see how that question is even implied, let alone the one and only question.
2) I guess you know they had an earthquake in Newcastle a few years ago. How can it be shown that that was “almost certainly” nothing to do with mining?
1) because that is the question that was asked
2) because like I said, changes in the in situ stress distribution as a result of mining are localised to the excavation. There have been literally thousands of in situ stress measurements made across the Hunter and Lake Macquarie regions over that past fifty years. None have shown regional scale changes to the stress regime.
1) No it wasn’t.
2) If people who have spent their working life studying earthquake behaviour in Australia are unable to be sure if recent earthquakes are connected with mining or not, I doubt if you are, unless you have been keeping quiet about what you actually do.
1) yes it was the literal question that SM asked
2) you seem very defensive Rev and I’m not sure why, I’m not suggesting anything controversial here.. can we be 100% sure that recent earthquakes aren’t a result of mining activities, no (and to be clear I never suggested otherwise). What I did say is that it’s highly unlikely that mining activities are leading to kinds of changes in regional horizontal in situ stress distribution that would lead to increased levels of seismicity. I mean geotechnical modelling that is done on ground behaviour at mines tends to ignore anything but the immediate excavation. If adjacent operations had a measurable effect, than those mining operations would be included in the analysis, but there’re not.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Our future discoveries must be looked for in the sixth place of decimals, but as long as we don’t look there, there’s nothing to discover¡
OCDC said:
Still quite seedy today but I’ll try to do some housework. Brekkie was made the other day, still a few more in the fridge. Hopefully I’ll be able to eat the curry today.
Tamb said:
OCDC said:Ta Tamb. How are you? I’ll see how I am later. Can freeze it in portions if I need to.Still quite seedy today but I’ll try to do some housework. Brekkie was made the other day, still a few more in the fridge. Hopefully I’ll be able to eat the curry today.Good morning OCDC. Hope you’re feeling up to the curry now.
OCDC said:
Tamb said:OCDC said:Ta Tamb. How are you? I’ll see how I am later. Can freeze it in portions if I need to.Still quite seedy today but I’ll try to do some housework. Brekkie was made the other day, still a few more in the fridge. Hopefully I’ll be able to eat the curry today.Good morning OCDC. Hope you’re feeling up to the curry now.
James Packer tells of how being prescribed lithium left him a ‘complete zombie’
https://7news.com.au/spotlight/7news-spotlight-james-packer-tells-of-how-being-prescribed-lithium-left-him-a-complete-zombie-c-15969185
Hello
Cymek said:
Hello
G’day.
Cymek said:
Hello
diddly-squat said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:1) because that is the question that was asked
2) because like I said, changes in the in situ stress distribution as a result of mining are localised to the excavation. There have been literally thousands of in situ stress measurements made across the Hunter and Lake Macquarie regions over that past fifty years. None have shown regional scale changes to the stress regime.
1) No it wasn’t.
2) If people who have spent their working life studying earthquake behaviour in Australia are unable to be sure if recent earthquakes are connected with mining or not, I doubt if you are, unless you have been keeping quiet about what you actually do.
1) yes it was the literal question that SM asked
2) you seem very defensive Rev and I’m not sure why, I’m not suggesting anything controversial here.. can we be 100% sure that recent earthquakes aren’t a result of mining activities, no (and to be clear I never suggested otherwise). What I did say is that it’s highly unlikely that mining activities are leading to kinds of changes in regional horizontal in situ stress distribution that would lead to increased levels of seismicity. I mean geotechnical modelling that is done on ground behaviour at mines tends to ignore anything but the immediate excavation. If adjacent operations had a measurable effect, than those mining operations would be included in the analysis, but there’re not.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1). That’s strange. The question I saw was “Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?” to which the answer from one of Australia’s leading seismologists was, we don’t know, but quite possibly.
2). On the contrary, I’m on the front foot here. The problem is, the sort of information we have available, including crude and grossly simplified computer models and inaccurate stress measurements in shallow holes, are not very useful in predicting very low probability but high consequence events where we don’t even understand all the mechanisms that cause them.
2)
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
Hello
G’day.
How’s things your end?
OK
At work
How are you today
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
Hello
G’day.
How’s things your end?OK
At work
How are you today
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
Tamb said:G’day.
How’s things your end?OK
At work
How are you today
Day 3/7 of post chemo, so about 70% of normal.
How often are your sessions?
Cwm fjord-bank glyphs vext quiz.
dv said:
Tamb said:
Cymek said:OK
At work
How are you today
Day 3/7 of post chemo, so about 70% of normal.How often are your sessions?
Tamb said:
dv said:
Tamb said:Day 3/7 of post chemo, so about 70% of normal.
How often are your sessions?
Every 5 weeks so 4 weeks between last day of one & first day of the next.
It makes you feel yuck I imagine
Does it give you enough time to feel reasonable before the next session.
dv said:
Cwm fjord-bank glyphs vext quiz.
If it wasn’t for the Internet, they would have irritated me as well.
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
dv said:How often are your sessions?
Every 5 weeks so 4 weeks between last day of one & first day of the next.It makes you feel yuck I imagine
Does it give you enough time to feel reasonable before the next session.
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
Tamb said:Every 5 weeks so 4 weeks between last day of one & first day of the next.
It makes you feel yuck I imagine
Does it give you enough time to feel reasonable before the next session.
Yuck, yes. Recover, yes but barely.
You are a tower of strength mate.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
Cymek said:It makes you feel yuck I imagine
Does it give you enough time to feel reasonable before the next session.
Yuck, yes. Recover, yes but barely.You are a tower of strength mate.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:Yuck, yes. Recover, yes but barely.
You are a tower of strength mate.
Thanks. ATM I feel like the one in Pisa.
Think of how long it has leant a bit.
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roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:You are a tower of strength mate.
Thanks. ATM I feel like the one in Pisa.Think of how long it has leant a bit.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:Thanks. ATM I feel like the one in Pisa.
Think of how long it has leant a bit.
A heartening thought. Thanks.
:) Hang in there.
waves Here I am again – another day, another bank, another hour on hold….
Brindabellas said:
waves Here I am again – another day, another bank, another hour on hold….
Brindabellas said:
waves Here I am again – another day, another bank, another hour on hold….
Bugger.
Tamb said:
Brindabellas said:
waves Here I am again – another day, another bank, another hour on hold….
One of the hidden perils of bank robbery.
and after this call – I will have to call another bank – it is so draining,
Brindabellas said:
Tamb said:
Brindabellas said:
waves Here I am again – another day, another bank, another hour on hold….
One of the hidden perils of bank robbery.
and after this call – I will have to call another bank – it is so draining,
The grass is always greener back on the other bank¿
Last week I had to call my bank and was put on hold for over an hour. There wasn’t even any music, just a series of percussive noises, like billiard balls colliding.
After a while I realised – my call had been placed in a cue.
Bubblecar said:
Last week I had to call my bank and was put on hold for over an hour. There wasn’t even any music, just a series of percussive noises, like billiard balls colliding.After a while I realised – my call had been placed in a cue.
Uh-oh.
Brindabellas said:
Tamb said:
Brindabellas said:
waves Here I am again – another day, another bank, another hour on hold….
One of the hidden perils of bank robbery.and after this call – I will have to call another bank – it is so draining,
And after 45 minutes – they couldn’t help me – I have to call the local branch – so I am waiting for a call back. FFS!!!
The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:
The Rev Dodgson said:1) No it wasn’t.
2) If people who have spent their working life studying earthquake behaviour in Australia are unable to be sure if recent earthquakes are connected with mining or not, I doubt if you are, unless you have been keeping quiet about what you actually do.
1) yes it was the literal question that SM asked
2) you seem very defensive Rev and I’m not sure why, I’m not suggesting anything controversial here.. can we be 100% sure that recent earthquakes aren’t a result of mining activities, no (and to be clear I never suggested otherwise). What I did say is that it’s highly unlikely that mining activities are leading to kinds of changes in regional horizontal in situ stress distribution that would lead to increased levels of seismicity. I mean geotechnical modelling that is done on ground behaviour at mines tends to ignore anything but the immediate excavation. If adjacent operations had a measurable effect, than those mining operations would be included in the analysis, but there’re not.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1). That’s strange. The question I saw was “Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?” to which the answer from one of Australia’s leading seismologists was, we don’t know, but quite possibly.
2). On the contrary, I’m on the front foot here. The problem is, the sort of information we have available, including crude and grossly simplified computer models and inaccurate stress measurements in shallow holes, are not very useful in predicting very low probability but high consequence events where we don’t even understand all the mechanisms that cause them.
2)
It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.
But hey, we do all kinds of things to the environment and get unexpected outcomes.. maybe building masses of large concrete structures on the ground in certain locations leads to changes in the regional horizontal stress distribution as well…
Bubblecar said:
Last week I had to call my bank and was put on hold for over an hour. There wasn’t even any music, just a series of percussive noises, like billiard balls colliding.After a while I realised – my call had been placed in a cue.
I just found an insect that I’ve not seen before. It’s built a little stick house about the size of your little finger.
Any id?

Kingy said:
I just found an insect that I’ve not seen before. It’s built a little stick house about the size of your little finger.Any id?
Kingy said:
I just found an insect that I’ve not seen before. It’s built a little stick house about the size of your little finger.Any id?
caddis fly lava?
JudgeMental said:
Kingy said:
I just found an insect that I’ve not seen before. It’s built a little stick house about the size of your little finger.Any id?
caddis fly lava?
or a case moth.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
Kingy said:
I just found an insect that I’ve not seen before. It’s built a little stick house about the size of your little finger.Any id?
caddis fly lava?
or a case moth.
Yep, that’s my guess too.
Why Do Apes Make Gestures?
Chimps and other apes have been observed making more than 80 meaningful gestures. Three theories have tried to explain why.
By Carl Zimmer
Sept. 6, 2024
In the 1960s, Jane Goodall started spending weeks at a time in Gombe Stream National Park in Tanzania watching chimpanzees. One of her most important discoveries was that the apes regularly made gestures to one another. Male chimpanzees tipped their heads up as a threat, for example, while mothers motioned to their young to climb on their backs for a ride.
Generations of primatologists have followed up on Dr. Goodall’s work, discovering over 80 meaningful gestures made by not only chimpanzees, but also bonobos, gorillas and orangutans.
Now researchers are using these gestures to peer into the minds of apes. Some even think they offer clues about how our own species evolved full-blown language. “Certainly, gestures played a big role,” said Richard Moore, a philosopher of language at the University of Warwick.
In the 1980s, Michael Tomasello, then a young comparative psychologist, pioneered the first theory about ape gestures based on observations of infant chimpanzees in captivity as they grew into adults.
He noticed that the baby apes made gestures to their mothers and, as they matured, developed new gestures directed at other chimpanzees.
Based on his observations, Dr. Tomasello argued that gestures develop among apes as simple habits. If a baby repeatedly tries to grab food from its mother’s mouth, for example, the mother may eventually start to give it food while the baby is still stretching out its arm. The baby, in turn, may stop bothering with the full action.
According to Dr. Tomasello’s ritualization idea, apes don’t use gestures to communicate the way we do. When we point to a cannoli in a pastry shop, we know the gesture will make the baker understand that’s the one we want to buy. But according to the theory, an ape doesn’t get inside the head of other apes when it makes a gesture. The animal simply learned that the gesture delivered what it wanted.
By the 2010s, however, some primatologists saw some serious problems with that theory. It predicted that there would be a lot of variety in the gestures that emerged from one-on-one interactions between apes. But large-scale surveys of chimpanzees showed that they all made the same gestures. Some of those movements were even shared across different species.
The critics developed a new theory rejecting the idea that apes spontaneously developed gestures. Instead, they proposed that gestures were encoded in the genes, much as a courtship dance is encoded in a bird’s DNA. The inherited gestures that helped apes reproduce were favored by natural selection.
“Gestures are innate,” said Richard Byrne, a primatologist at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland, who helped develop this theory.
But Kirsty Graham, a former student of Dr. Byrne’s, grew dissatisfied with the innate theory as well. “We’re saying it makes more sense that 80 gesture types are all genetically encoded?” recalled Dr. Graham, who now teaches at Hunter College in New York. “Is this really the simpler explanation?”
Dr. Graham discovered that Dr. Moore shared her skepticism, as did Federico Rossano, a comparative psychologist at the University of California, San Diego, who got his Ph.D. with Dr. Tomasello. The trio unveiled a third theory last month in the journal Biological Reviews. “It’s a story that we hope will reconcile existing data and divergent views,” Dr. Moore said.
Apes, they argue, do not inherit specific gestures, but they do inherit the sense that they can use gestures to communicate with other chimpanzees. The animals create new gestures by borrowing — or “recruiting,” in the scientists’ lingo — movements that apes commonly make.
An ape can reach out an arm, for example, as a way to ask for food, like a piece of a freshly caught monkey.
“I have the monkey, and you’re sitting very close to me, looking very closely at the monkey,” Dr. Graham said. “I already know that you want to eat the monkey, and the gesture makes it an explicit request.”
The theory explains some observations that did not make sense otherwise, she said. Primatologists have noticed, for example, that when an ape fails to get something it wants through a gesture, it may move so that the other ape can see it more clearly. If the gesture were just a learned, habitual motion, the animal wouldn’t be able to display it so flexibly, Dr. Graham said.
“They’re being intentionally produced, in a goal-directed way,” she said.
The recruitment view offers an explanation for how apes can share so many gestures even if they are not innately programmed. Apes end up making the same gestures because they have similar bodies that move in similar ways. As a result, it’s easy for them to interpret the meaning of gestures simply by thinking about what they do with their own bodies.
Dr. Graham argues that the recruitment view offers new ideas about why apes struggle to recognize gestures that are easy for us to understand, such as finger-pointing. Those movements have no clear connection to what the apes do with their bodies in their everyday life.
That doesn’t mean that apes can’t learn any new gestures, however. Dr. Graham and her colleagues predict that the animals can do so as long as the gestures have a purpose. The researchers are developing experiments to observe if that can happen.
Dr. Byrne found the recruitment view, compared with his own innate theory, “quite a complicated system,” he said. It’s clear that other animals can inherit their displays, and so he questioned why apes would need a different explanation.
“The question, which will take a long time and lots of discussion to resolve, is whether all the extra theoretical apparatus is worth it for a better description of reality,” he said.
But Dr. Tomasello, who now teaches at Duke University, praised the recruitment view as an improved version of his ritualization theory.
When he first developed his ideas about gestures, Dr. Tomasello said, scientists did not yet appreciate how much apes can understand about one another. The recruitment view “gives more credit to the apes cognitively than did the original view,” he said. “It is an important advance.”
Some scientists have speculated that ape gestures directly gave rise to human language. Early humans converted gestures into sign language, complete with rules of grammar, which they then converted to spoken words.
But Dr. Rossano and his colleagues see a more distant connection from gestures to language. Our ape ancestors evolved an unprecedented flexibility in how they learned gestures and how they used them in their social lives. That’s a vital element of human language, too.
“Where does that flexibility in use and learning come from?” Dr. Rossano said. “It probably comes from the flexibility in gestures.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/06/science/chimpanzee-gestures-language.html?
I just returned from a trip to COSTCO…. thinking that a Monday will be less busy… I was incorrect.
However I am enlightened now that many humans also just use primal gestures and facial expressions to get their point across without considering the internalisation of others.
Brindabellas said:
waves Here I am again – another day, another bank, another hour on hold….
You are having a tough time of it..
diddly-squat said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:1) yes it was the literal question that SM asked
2) you seem very defensive Rev and I’m not sure why, I’m not suggesting anything controversial here.. can we be 100% sure that recent earthquakes aren’t a result of mining activities, no (and to be clear I never suggested otherwise). What I did say is that it’s highly unlikely that mining activities are leading to kinds of changes in regional horizontal in situ stress distribution that would lead to increased levels of seismicity. I mean geotechnical modelling that is done on ground behaviour at mines tends to ignore anything but the immediate excavation. If adjacent operations had a measurable effect, than those mining operations would be included in the analysis, but there’re not.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1). That’s strange. The question I saw was “Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?” to which the answer from one of Australia’s leading seismologists was, we don’t know, but quite possibly.
2). On the contrary, I’m on the front foot here. The problem is, the sort of information we have available, including crude and grossly simplified computer models and inaccurate stress measurements in shallow holes, are not very useful in predicting very low probability but high consequence events where we don’t even understand all the mechanisms that cause them.
2)
It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.
But hey, we do all kinds of things to the environment and get unexpected outcomes.. maybe building masses of large concrete structures on the ground in certain locations leads to changes in the regional horizontal stress distribution as well…
It certainly uses up a lot of aggregates and locks away a lot of our precious fresh water.
Not sure if my garbos will accept a microwave oven in my bin, but we’ll find out on Wednesday.
OCDC said:
Not sure if my garbos will accept a microwave oven in my bin, but we’ll find out on Wednesday.
Just stopped working, or did you put a hostile object in it?
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:It’s been slowly dying for a long time and I finally got sick of it. I bought a new one when I moved to Traralgon in 2019 which I also used in Wod.Not sure if my garbos will accept a microwave oven in my bin, but we’ll find out on Wednesday.Just stopped working, or did you put a hostile object in it?
OCDC said:
Not sure if my garbos will accept a microwave oven in my bin, but we’ll find out on Wednesday.
If you took it to the tip you’d have to put it in the right section and pay for the privilege to dump it. The Australian invention of the garbage bin lifter doesn’t ook at what you tip in the bin and drives off with it. You also pay for this service in your rates.
OCDC said:
Not sure if my garbos will accept a microwave oven in my bin, but we’ll find out on Wednesday.
They took a Toyota Hilux diesel engine block in my bin. :)
The bin is showing some damage though.
We are back. We’ve both still got eyes that work. Neither of us have had a prescription change. Jayson showed me his fancy schmancy wide field fundus camera and he used the OCT. My laser scars are unchanged. Mr buffy hasn’t got any diabetic retinopathy. We et wonderful potato cakes from Poppie’s at Koroit on the way home and I checked another of my orchid patches. The first flowers are just starting to open. Diuris chryseopsis (Common Golden Moths). There is an orchid officionado visiting our local cemetery tomorrow week to look at the orchids. I think he might have his timing almost perfect. As long as they don’t decide to mow there this week.

roughbarked said:
diddly-squat said:
The Rev Dodgson said:1). That’s strange. The question I saw was “Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?” to which the answer from one of Australia’s leading seismologists was, we don’t know, but quite possibly.
2). On the contrary, I’m on the front foot here. The problem is, the sort of information we have available, including crude and grossly simplified computer models and inaccurate stress measurements in shallow holes, are not very useful in predicting very low probability but high consequence events where we don’t even understand all the mechanisms that cause them.
2)
It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.
But hey, we do all kinds of things to the environment and get unexpected outcomes.. maybe building masses of large concrete structures on the ground in certain locations leads to changes in the regional horizontal stress distribution as well…
It certainly uses up a lot of aggregates and locks away a lot of our precious fresh water.
Yes. We struggle to replenish our precious bodily fluids.
buffy said:
We are back. We’ve both still got eyes that work. Neither of us have had a prescription change. Jayson showed me his fancy schmancy wide field fundus camera and he used the OCT. My laser scars are unchanged. Mr buffy hasn’t got any diabetic retinopathy. We et wonderful potato cakes from Poppie’s at Koroit on the way home and I checked another of my orchid patches. The first flowers are just starting to open. Diuris chryseopsis (Common Golden Moths). There is an orchid officionado visiting our local cemetery tomorrow week to look at the orchids. I think he might have his timing almost perfect. As long as they don’t decide to mow there this week.
I think mowing still isn’t allowed in some historic Tasmanian cemeteries, because of the native grasses etc.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
We are back. We’ve both still got eyes that work. Neither of us have had a prescription change. Jayson showed me his fancy schmancy wide field fundus camera and he used the OCT. My laser scars are unchanged. Mr buffy hasn’t got any diabetic retinopathy. We et wonderful potato cakes from Poppie’s at Koroit on the way home and I checked another of my orchid patches. The first flowers are just starting to open. Diuris chryseopsis (Common Golden Moths). There is an orchid officionado visiting our local cemetery tomorrow week to look at the orchids. I think he might have his timing almost perfect. As long as they don’t decide to mow there this week.
I think mowing still isn’t allowed in some historic Tasmanian cemeteries, because of the native grasses etc.
The native grasses don’t mind a bit of mowing as long as they are allowed to set seed.
I removed a lot of weedy grasses and allowed the natives to stay by mowing the lot before the wild oats etc., set seed and then allowing the natives to go to seed. If some of the weeds started to set seed inbetween, I’d mow them and the crested pigeons, grass parrots ate the seed.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
Kingy said:
I just found an insect that I’ve not seen before. It’s built a little stick house about the size of your little finger.Any id?
caddis fly lava?
or a case moth.
Case moth it is.
buffy said:
We are back. We’ve both still got eyes that work. Neither of us have had a prescription change. Jayson showed me his fancy schmancy wide field fundus camera and he used the OCT. My laser scars are unchanged. Mr buffy hasn’t got any diabetic retinopathy. We et wonderful potato cakes from Poppie’s at Koroit on the way home and I checked another of my orchid patches. The first flowers are just starting to open. Diuris chryseopsis (Common Golden Moths). There is an orchid officionado visiting our local cemetery tomorrow week to look at the orchids. I think he might have his timing almost perfect. As long as they don’t decide to mow there this week.
All good news. Must get my eyes checked soon. Some new glasses might be in order too. The tie wire is working well to hold my glasses together, but maybe they can become my spare pair.
Magical equation unites quantum physics, Einstein’s general relativity in a first
For the first time, we have an equation that connects the cosmic realm with the quantum world in ways never before imagined.
https://interestingengineering.com/science/general-relativity-quantum-physics-united
diddly-squat said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:1) yes it was the literal question that SM asked
2) you seem very defensive Rev and I’m not sure why, I’m not suggesting anything controversial here.. can we be 100% sure that recent earthquakes aren’t a result of mining activities, no (and to be clear I never suggested otherwise). What I did say is that it’s highly unlikely that mining activities are leading to kinds of changes in regional horizontal in situ stress distribution that would lead to increased levels of seismicity. I mean geotechnical modelling that is done on ground behaviour at mines tends to ignore anything but the immediate excavation. If adjacent operations had a measurable effect, than those mining operations would be included in the analysis, but there’re not.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1). That’s strange. The question I saw was “Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?” to which the answer from one of Australia’s leading seismologists was, we don’t know, but quite possibly.
2). On the contrary, I’m on the front foot here. The problem is, the sort of information we have available, including crude and grossly simplified computer models and inaccurate stress measurements in shallow holes, are not very useful in predicting very low probability but high consequence events where we don’t even understand all the mechanisms that cause them.
2)
It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.
But hey, we do all kinds of things to the environment and get unexpected outcomes.. maybe building masses of large concrete structures on the ground in certain locations leads to changes in the regional horizontal stress distribution as well…
“It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.”
That’s pretty much what the article linked by s’s mum said.
The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:
The Rev Dodgson said:1). That’s strange. The question I saw was “Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?” to which the answer from one of Australia’s leading seismologists was, we don’t know, but quite possibly.
2). On the contrary, I’m on the front foot here. The problem is, the sort of information we have available, including crude and grossly simplified computer models and inaccurate stress measurements in shallow holes, are not very useful in predicting very low probability but high consequence events where we don’t even understand all the mechanisms that cause them.
2)
It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.
But hey, we do all kinds of things to the environment and get unexpected outcomes.. maybe building masses of large concrete structures on the ground in certain locations leads to changes in the regional horizontal stress distribution as well…
“It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.”
That’s pretty much what the article linked by s’s mum said.
Did they work out the changes caused by every hole mined and every tunnel mined and then compute the stresses that go with those changes?
That’s what they should have done and then taken caution from there.
The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:
The Rev Dodgson said:1). That’s strange. The question I saw was “Is coal mining causing the ‘earthquake swarm’ hitting NSW’s Hunter Region?” to which the answer from one of Australia’s leading seismologists was, we don’t know, but quite possibly.
2). On the contrary, I’m on the front foot here. The problem is, the sort of information we have available, including crude and grossly simplified computer models and inaccurate stress measurements in shallow holes, are not very useful in predicting very low probability but high consequence events where we don’t even understand all the mechanisms that cause them.
2)
It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.
But hey, we do all kinds of things to the environment and get unexpected outcomes.. maybe building masses of large concrete structures on the ground in certain locations leads to changes in the regional horizontal stress distribution as well…
“It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.”
That’s pretty much what the article linked by s’s mum said.
It’d be nice to see the “beach ball” solutions for all the earthquakes. All the three recent strong quakes have been in the basement rocks (and the 1989 Newcastle quake), not the Sydney Basin rocks. If the solutions indicate strike-slip movement, then unloading the basin by mining is an extremely unlikely cause.
Unfortunately Geoscience Australia do not publish focal mechanism “beach ball” solutions AFAICT.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.
But hey, we do all kinds of things to the environment and get unexpected outcomes.. maybe building masses of large concrete structures on the ground in certain locations leads to changes in the regional horizontal stress distribution as well…
“It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.”
That’s pretty much what the article linked by s’s mum said.
It’d be nice to see the “beach ball” solutions for all the earthquakes. All the three recent strong quakes have been in the basement rocks (and the 1989 Newcastle quake), not the Sydney Basin rocks. If the solutions indicate strike-slip movement, then unloading the basin by mining is an extremely unlikely cause.
Unfortunately Geoscience Australia do not publish focal mechanism “beach ball” solutions AFAICT.
Maybe it’s natural erosion?
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.
But hey, we do all kinds of things to the environment and get unexpected outcomes.. maybe building masses of large concrete structures on the ground in certain locations leads to changes in the regional horizontal stress distribution as well…
“It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.”
That’s pretty much what the article linked by s’s mum said.
It’d be nice to see the “beach ball” solutions for all the earthquakes. All the three recent strong quakes have been in the basement rocks (and the 1989 Newcastle quake), not the Sydney Basin rocks. If the solutions indicate strike-slip movement, then unloading the basin by mining is an extremely unlikely cause.
Unfortunately Geoscience Australia do not publish focal mechanism “beach ball” solutions AFAICT.
A simple explanation of how to read focal mechanism “beach ball” solutions
https://www.usgs.gov/programs/earthquake-hazards/focal-mechanisms-or-beachballs
ABC News:

South Australia has reported more than 10 times as many whooping cough cases in 2024 compared to the same time last year, as the country faces an explosion of cases.
South Australia’s Chief Public Health Officer, Nicola Spurrier, said the state was experiencing a whooping cough wave with 492 cases reported in 2024 – the highest number in six years.
“Week on week the numbers keep increasing,” she said.
There have been 25,689 cases of pertussis, known as whooping cough, recorded around Australia in 2024 so far, according to the National Communicable Disease Surveillance Dashboard.
Alternative headline: Ant-Vaxxers Pigeons Come Home To Roost
Looks like herd immunity is fading. Little Tarquin and Brunhilde better brace themselves.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:“It would seem to me then that if there is not a lot of ways to rule out the impacts of mining upon regional seismicity, then there is probably equally levels of uncertainty associated with attributing causality towards it.”
That’s pretty much what the article linked by s’s mum said.
It’d be nice to see the “beach ball” solutions for all the earthquakes. All the three recent strong quakes have been in the basement rocks (and the 1989 Newcastle quake), not the Sydney Basin rocks. If the solutions indicate strike-slip movement, then unloading the basin by mining is an extremely unlikely cause.
Unfortunately Geoscience Australia do not publish focal mechanism “beach ball” solutions AFAICT.
Maybe it’s natural erosion?
I don’t understand what you are trying to get at. How can an earthquake be natural erosion?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
South Australia has reported more than 10 times as many whooping cough cases in 2024 compared to the same time last year, as the country faces an explosion of cases.
South Australia’s Chief Public Health Officer, Nicola Spurrier, said the state was experiencing a whooping cough wave with 492 cases reported in 2024 – the highest number in six years.
“Week on week the numbers keep increasing,” she said.
There have been 25,689 cases of pertussis, known as whooping cough, recorded around Australia in 2024 so far, according to the National Communicable Disease Surveillance Dashboard.
Alternative headline: Anti-Vaxxers Pigeons Come Home To Roost
Looks like herd immunity is fading. Little Tarquin and Brunhilde better brace themselves.
Nods.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Magical equation unites quantum physics, Einstein’s general relativity in a firstFor the first time, we have an equation that connects the cosmic realm with the quantum world in ways never before imagined.
https://interestingengineering.com/science/general-relativity-quantum-physics-united
This be huge.. if it stacks up.
Ian said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Definitely. Thread-worthy. At least so the pedants can have a discussion :-)Magical equation unites quantum physics, Einstein’s general relativity in a firstThis be huge.. if it stacks up.For the first time, we have an equation that connects the cosmic realm with the quantum world in ways never before imagined.
https://interestingengineering.com/science/general-relativity-quantum-physics-united
Ian said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Magical equation unites quantum physics, Einstein’s general relativity in a firstFor the first time, we have an equation that connects the cosmic realm with the quantum world in ways never before imagined.
https://interestingengineering.com/science/general-relativity-quantum-physics-united
This be huge.. if it stacks up.
Aye, but I’ll wait and see what’s thrown at it before I delve into trying to understand it.
OCDC said:
Ian said:Witty Rejoinder said:Definitely. Thread-worthy. At least so the pedants can have a discussion :-)Magical equation unites quantum physics, Einstein’s general relativity in a firstThis be huge.. if it stacks up.For the first time, we have an equation that connects the cosmic realm with the quantum world in ways never before imagined.
https://interestingengineering.com/science/general-relativity-quantum-physics-united
Yes, we haven’t had a new thread since my gob bacteria one from last week.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
South Australia has reported more than 10 times as many whooping cough cases in 2024 compared to the same time last year, as the country faces an explosion of cases.
South Australia’s Chief Public Health Officer, Nicola Spurrier, said the state was experiencing a whooping cough wave with 492 cases reported in 2024 – the highest number in six years.
“Week on week the numbers keep increasing,” she said.
There have been 25,689 cases of pertussis, known as whooping cough, recorded around Australia in 2024 so far, according to the National Communicable Disease Surveillance Dashboard.
Alternative headline: Ant-Vaxxers Pigeons Come Home To Roost
Looks like herd immunity is fading. Little Tarquin and Brunhilde better brace themselves.
Some of those homeschooling Christian fundies are just as anti-vax as the hippies, and just as much to blame for the spread of diseases once thought rare or even extinct in Aus.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
South Australia has reported more than 10 times as many whooping cough cases in 2024 compared to the same time last year, as the country faces an explosion of cases.
South Australia’s Chief Public Health Officer, Nicola Spurrier, said the state was experiencing a whooping cough wave with 492 cases reported in 2024 – the highest number in six years.
“Week on week the numbers keep increasing,” she said.
There have been 25,689 cases of pertussis, known as whooping cough, recorded around Australia in 2024 so far, according to the National Communicable Disease Surveillance Dashboard.
Alternative headline: Ant-Vaxxers Pigeons Come Home To Roost
Looks like herd immunity is fading. Little Tarquin and Brunhilde better brace themselves.
Some of those homeschooling Christian fundies are just as anti-vax as the hippies, and just as much to blame for the spread of diseases once thought rare or even extinct in Aus.
Well, if this trend continues, they may not be with us for very long into the future.
Last night we watched the first episode of “Return to Paradise” on ABC. Just as naff as “Death in Paradise”, but easy enough viewing. Then we watched the first episode of the new season of “Unforgotten”. Had to wrack the memory for what had happened to Cassie at the end of the last season, but anyway, we still like it. So far. Tonight we will watch the first episode of the new series of Van der Valk on iView because we didn’t realize they weren’t doing repeats.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
South Australia has reported more than 10 times as many whooping cough cases in 2024 compared to the same time last year, as the country faces an explosion of cases.
South Australia’s Chief Public Health Officer, Nicola Spurrier, said the state was experiencing a whooping cough wave with 492 cases reported in 2024 – the highest number in six years.
“Week on week the numbers keep increasing,” she said.
There have been 25,689 cases of pertussis, known as whooping cough, recorded around Australia in 2024 so far, according to the National Communicable Disease Surveillance Dashboard.
Alternative headline: Ant-Vaxxers Pigeons Come Home To Roost
Looks like herd immunity is fading. Little Tarquin and Brunhilde better brace themselves.
Some of those homeschooling Christian fundies are just as anti-vax as the hippies, and just as much to blame for the spread of diseases once thought rare or even extinct in Aus.
Well, if this trend continues, they may not be with us for very long into the future.
Schoo-oo-oo-ool’s out! For! Ever!

The lore of “The Republic of Forgottonia” was created in the late 1960s in what is the very heart of the “Republic”; Macomb, IL. A group of concerned citizens dubbed the area “Forgottonia” in protest of the lack of state and federal investment in highways and other infrastructure in a sixteen-county section of West Central Illinois. Variously described as a new U.S. state or an independent republic, Forgottonia eventually became a fictional political secession movement in 1971s. It did not achieve actual statehood, but it did briefly crystallize as a state of mind. Residents of the west-central Illinois region —more or less between the Illinois and Mississippi Rivers—launched a satirical secession movement to protest the region’s stepchild status in Springfield.
What started as a tongue-in-cheek name grew into a satirical movement. Conceived by McDonough County residents Jack Horn, son of civically-minded Coca Cola bottler Frank “Pappy” Horn and Macomb Chamber of Commerce board member John Armstrong. Frustration among the citizens and officials of western Illinois was mounting behind a lack of support for transportation and infrastructure projects in the area. The Horns & Armstrong appointed a governor, selected a capital, and threatened secession so they could declare war, immediately surrender, and then petition for foreign aid. They even had their own flag: the white flag of surrender.
Viet Nam war veteran and Western Illinois University student Neal Gamm was named “Governor of Forgottonia,” and the breakaway commonwealth established its capital in an abandoned building in Fandon, a microscopic hamlet south of Colchester, hidden in the woods of McDonough County was to be the republic’s Capital. Wearing an elegant frock coat, bow tie, boutonniere and impish grin, Gamm became an instant media darling. The Sacramento Bee, the Philadelphia Inquirer and the New York Times all ran features on Gamm’s stunt. Suddenly the nation was taking notice of western Illinois plight.
According to a 2010 interview with the McDonough County Voice, Gamm recalled “The idea is that we would secede from the Union, immediately declare war, surrender, then apply for foreign aid.” What had started as a local joke soon became a news sensation as reporters and television producers from across the nation started contacting Gamm as wire services picked up the story.
The Western Illinois Magazine noted his republic had all the accoutrements of state and even nationhood, including an official bird (the albatross) and flower (the forget-me-not), as well as ambitious plans for a military academy and missile base, apparently if things got ugly with Iowa. Inspired by Gamm’s goofy, street-theater charisma and their own sense of grievance, movement adherents would brandish the Forgottonian flag—a blank white sheet, naturally—at town parades and political events throughout the fourteen counties.
Forgottonia never did secede, but thanks in part to these efforts the movement succeeded. It drew national attention to the region’s transportation and infrastructure plight. Amtrak brought trains service back to the area in 1972 and our region now enjoys Amtrak passenger train route to Chicago, and a much improved system of bridges and highways now allow for easier access to this little slice of Illinois.
The geographic region of “The Republic of Forgottonia” forms the distinctive western bulge of Illinois that is roughly equivalent to the Illinois portion of the Military Tract of 1812, along and west of the Fourth Principal Meridian.
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the grand duchy of fenwick. the mouse that roared..
not mooned anyone today, there ya go, earlier this evening

good evening she says munching slightly under ripe strawberries
Hey Wookie, a few months ago I posted a meme in a reply to you that wasn’t appropriate. I was hoping that it was funny. It wasn’t.
There are a lot of us on this forum who just lurk for a while, and then post something to try to get a laugh.
Oh, Hi Ms Skipper…
Oh, Hi Ms Skipper…
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Hey Kingy..
monkey skipper said:
good evening she says munching slightly under ripe strawberries
waves
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening she says munching slightly under ripe strawberries
waves
hey pp…life and stuff going well on the west side?
At the redoubt, it’s quite warm and still as still can be.
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening she says munching slightly under ripe strawberries
waves
hey pp…life and stuff going well on the west side?
Yeah, good enough. Just been filling on forms and stuff to refinance the mortgage. Hopefully get a better rate etc. The valuation on my house has increased quite a bit over the last couple of years. The property market here is just olain silly. And the rental market too.
At the redoubt, it’s quite warm and still as still can be.
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:waves
hey pp…life and stuff going well on the west side?
Yeah, good enough. Just been filling on forms and stuff to refinance the mortgage. Hopefully get a better rate etc. The valuation on my house has increased quite a bit over the last couple of years. The property market here is just olain silly. And the rental market too.
Getting a mortgage broker to do a market comparison to your current lender or just asking your current lender to offer a better deal?
Good luck with that either way
Peak Warming Man said:
At the redoubt, it’s quite warm and still as still can be.
we read you the first time.
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:hey pp…life and stuff going well on the west side?
Yeah, good enough. Just been filling on forms and stuff to refinance the mortgage. Hopefully get a better rate etc. The valuation on my house has increased quite a bit over the last couple of years. The property market here is just olain silly. And the rental market too.
Getting a mortgage broker to do a market comparison to your current lender or just asking your current lender to offer a better deal?
Good luck with that either way
The mortgage broker is going to handle it. He’s been bugging me for months. I was going to do it all myself but I don’t have the required arsing levels.
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
At the redoubt, it’s quite warm and still as still can be.
we read you the first time.
If it’s worth saying once it is worth saying twice… :D
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:Yeah, good enough. Just been filling on forms and stuff to refinance the mortgage. Hopefully get a better rate etc. The valuation on my house has increased quite a bit over the last couple of years. The property market here is just olain silly. And the rental market too.
Getting a mortgage broker to do a market comparison to your current lender or just asking your current lender to offer a better deal?
Good luck with that either way
The mortgage broker is going to handle it. He’s been bugging me for months. I was going to do it all myself but I don’t have the required arsing levels.
You may be surprised to read that prior to my current role , I was working with a mortgage broker …
You used to work in the banking sector iirc?
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:Getting a mortgage broker to do a market comparison to your current lender or just asking your current lender to offer a better deal?
Good luck with that either way
The mortgage broker is going to handle it. He’s been bugging me for months. I was going to do it all myself but I don’t have the required arsing levels.
You may be surprised to read that prior to my current role , I was working with a mortgage broker …
You used to work in the banking sector iirc?
Yeah, in property settlements and lending. I worked in the same office as the home loan assessors. Some of them even became friends. I should know it all, but I just CBA.
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:The mortgage broker is going to handle it. He’s been bugging me for months. I was going to do it all myself but I don’t have the required arsing levels.
You may be surprised to read that prior to my current role , I was working with a mortgage broker …
You used to work in the banking sector iirc?
Yeah, in property settlements and lending. I worked in the same office as the home loan assessors. Some of them even became friends. I should know it all, but I just CBA.
Hopefully a pleasant surprise comparison comes back then
Ian said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Magical equation unites quantum physics, Einstein’s general relativity in a firstFor the first time, we have an equation that connects the cosmic realm with the quantum world in ways never before imagined.
https://interestingengineering.com/science/general-relativity-quantum-physics-united
This be huge.. if it stacks up.
Interesting Engineering can be a bit junky. Do you have the original paper?
In other news…
Sri Lanka defeated England by 8 wickets at The Oval.
Eng 325 & 186
S.L. 263 & 2/219
Ritchie Benaud accent: marvelous effort that
dv said:
Ian said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Magical equation unites quantum physics, Einstein’s general relativity in a firstFor the first time, we have an equation that connects the cosmic realm with the quantum world in ways never before imagined.
https://interestingengineering.com/science/general-relativity-quantum-physics-united
This be huge.. if it stacks up.
Interesting Engineering can be a bit junky. Do you have the original paper?
Yep, I saw something on there today that was garbage.
dv said:
Ian said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Magical equation unites quantum physics, Einstein’s general relativity in a firstFor the first time, we have an equation that connects the cosmic realm with the quantum world in ways never before imagined.
https://interestingengineering.com/science/general-relativity-quantum-physics-united
This be huge.. if it stacks up.
Interesting Engineering can be a bit junky. Do you have the original paper?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0927650524001130?via%3Dihub#sec0027
I would describe this paper as “frantic”.
CRediT(sic) authorship contribution statement
Chavis Srichan: Conceptualization, Formal analysis, Methodology, Writing – original draft, Writing – review & editing.
Pobporn Danvirutai: Conceptualization, Formal analysis, Writing – original draft.
Adrian David Cheok: Formal analysis, Supervision, Validation, Writing – review & editing.
Jun Cai: Validation, Writing – review & editing.
Ying Yan: Validation, Writing – review & editing.
My guess is Chavis and Pobporn were pretty stoned when they began conceptualizing this “theory”, and it just kind of went from there.
Abstract
It has been a long time to reconcile quantum physics and general relativity. To date, no globally accepted theory has been proposed to explain all physical observations. In this work, we reformulated the Riemannian geometry in terms of curvature and energy tensors using the Planck scale formalism. The proposed equation can be transformed into Dirac equations in electrodynamic and chromodynamic fields with a reduction in the background curvature. We redefined the mass and charge of leptons in terms of the interactions between the energy of the field and the curvature of the spacetime. The obtained equation is covariant in space–time and invariant with respect to any Planck scale. Therefore, the constants of the universe can be reduced to only two quantities: Planck length and Planck time. We proved that the Einstein field equation from general relativity is actually a relativistic quantum mechanical equation. We further modeled the universe using the equation with Einstein’s lambda formalism and found that the universe dynamics could be considered as harmonic oscillators entangled with lambda curvature. This equation can be used to describe the energy transfer between two entangled spacetimes between the same universe and between any two universes (ER=EPR). The singularity of black holes can be avoided at the Planck scale, because space and time are no longer entangled. This equation predicts that information of light from the entangled universe can be transferred to our universe. The gravitational wave background was predicted, and its spectrum was close to that of the observation.
party_pants said:
In other news…Sri Lanka defeated England by 8 wickets at The Oval.
Eng 325 & 186
S.L. 263 & 2/219Ritchie Benaud accent: marvelous effort that
Nice work SL
1 – Tchhuu for the series
TEMU ads are the worst
dv said:
TEMU ads are the worst
they show me some weird stuff they think i want.
fun they get to see the sights

sarahs mum said:
dv said:
TEMU ads are the worst
they show me some weird stuff they think i want.
They are pretty excessive
Morning space puppets. Heading for 15 here, slight chance of a shower, breezy.
Few hours of housework planned since I did very little yesterday.
Looking forward to a sausage roll breakfast but first, a cup of good strong tea.
Morning, its a bit chilly and cloudy, top of 16°.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Morning, its a bit chilly and cloudy, top of 16°.
G’day. 4 degrees here but will get to 22 later.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees at the back door, lightly overcast. We are forecast a cloudy 17 degrees.
Bakery Breakfast this morning. Mr buffy is going with Strong Friend to the bush to pick up the tractor – apparently the hydraulics weren’t properly fixed last week. And I’m going to Hamilton late afternoon for archery. No official OzBow today, but three of us club members are going to shoot at 4.00pm. The other two are serious archers. I’m an arrow flinger. That’s fine, they will be shooting 40 or 50m, I’ll be at 30m.
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(
>That’s fine, they will be shooting 40 or 50m, I’ll be at 30m.
Sounds like an accident waiting to happen…
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(
Good long run, 93.
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(
Yeah..what a legend..
Bubblecar said:
Morning space puppets. Heading for 15 here, slight chance of a shower, breezy.Few hours of housework planned since I did very little yesterday.
Looking forward to a sausage roll breakfast but first, a cup of good strong tea.
21 degrees here in Qld :)
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(
I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
Same here.
Not really a movie buff.
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
In a galaxy far far away.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
Same here.
Not really a movie buff.
And the voice of Mufasa ( the Lion King)
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
He was in loads of well-known films, most of which I haven’t seen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Jones_on_screen_and_stage
Good morning everybody.
It’s currently 13.0° C and 99% RH. It’s partly cloudy now the fog has lifted and it’s calm. BoM tells me to expect a top of 25° C and that there’s only a slight chance of rain until this evening, but that it will remain partly cloudy all day.
Agenda: meals only have been discussed so far.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
He was in loads of well-known films, most of which I haven’t seen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Jones_on_screen_and_stage
Yes. I haven’t seen most of them as well.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
In a galaxy far far away.
Ta.
monkey skipper said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
Same here.
Not really a movie buff.
And the voice of Mufasa ( the Lion King)
I haven’t seen that one.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
He was in loads of well-known films, most of which I haven’t seen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Jones_on_screen_and_stage
Prolific, that’s for sure.
A lovely start to my day with a mother and baby whale doing tail slaps, plus a pod of dolphins cruising past. And two of my dawn walking buddies have new puppies, so we get to enjoy roly poly puppy antics.
A mild sunny day ahead here, possible East Coast low for Thursday/Friday….we’ll see

You’ll have to imagine this picture taken with an expensive camera and lens, this doesn’t quite do justice to the whale show

ruby said:
A lovely start to my day with a mother and baby whale doing tail slaps, plus a pod of dolphins cruising past. And two of my dawn walking buddies have new puppies, so we get to enjoy roly poly puppy antics.
A mild sunny day ahead here, possible East Coast low for Thursday/Friday….we’ll see
You’ll have to imagine this picture taken with an expensive camera and lens, this doesn’t quite do justice to the whale show
Nice.
:)
ruby said:
A lovely start to my day with a mother and baby whale doing tail slaps, plus a pod of dolphins cruising past. And two of my dawn walking buddies have new puppies, so we get to enjoy roly poly puppy antics.
A mild sunny day ahead here, possible East Coast low for Thursday/Friday….we’ll see
You’ll have to imagine this picture taken with an expensive camera and lens, this doesn’t quite do justice to the whale show
I think you used the camera to its best ability. :) Lovely shots.
roughbarked said:
Sri Lanka take an eight wicket win against England
Nice one. A test and in England.
Michael V said:
ruby said:
A lovely start to my day with a mother and baby whale doing tail slaps, plus a pod of dolphins cruising past. And two of my dawn walking buddies have new puppies, so we get to enjoy roly poly puppy antics.
A mild sunny day ahead here, possible East Coast low for Thursday/Friday….we’ll see
You’ll have to imagine this picture taken with an expensive camera and lens, this doesn’t quite do justice to the whale show
Nice.
:)
I feel pretty lucky.
I had a great conversation with one of the newer walking buddies, about how us women feel always on guard walking by ourselves. She has a German Shepherd, and says she feels quite different about walking when she takes her King Charles Cavalier. We also talked about how hard it makes it for men, though perhaps most men don’t even realise this is going on.
ruby said:
Michael V said:
ruby said:
A lovely start to my day with a mother and baby whale doing tail slaps, plus a pod of dolphins cruising past. And two of my dawn walking buddies have new puppies, so we get to enjoy roly poly puppy antics.
A mild sunny day ahead here, possible East Coast low for Thursday/Friday….we’ll see
You’ll have to imagine this picture taken with an expensive camera and lens, this doesn’t quite do justice to the whale show
Nice.
:)
I feel pretty lucky.
I had a great conversation with one of the newer walking buddies, about how us women feel always on guard walking by ourselves. She has a German Shepherd, and says she feels quite different about walking when she takes her King Charles Cavalier. We also talked about how hard it makes it for men, though perhaps most men don’t even realise this is going on.
Yep. The thought hadn’t crossed my mind until you mentioned it but then it is at least forty years since I walked on a beach at dawn.
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
You astound me. I’d‘ve considered him one of the most famous people on earth.
His most recent performance as Vader was in Rogue One (2016) but he did have a lot of other roles.
Lion King, Patriot Ganes, Clear and Present Danger, Field of Dreams, Conan the Barbarian, Coming to America.
Even had a minor role in Dr Strangelove.
roughbarked said:
ruby said:
Michael V said:Nice.
:)
I feel pretty lucky.
I had a great conversation with one of the newer walking buddies, about how us women feel always on guard walking by ourselves. She has a German Shepherd, and says she feels quite different about walking when she takes her King Charles Cavalier. We also talked about how hard it makes it for men, though perhaps most men don’t even realise this is going on.
Yep. The thought hadn’t crossed my mind until you mentioned it but then it is at least forty years since I walked on a beach at dawn.
It’s not just at the beach, or on solo bushwalks.
It was the fascinating part of the Me Too movement. Seeing just how much women’s experiences are not talked about, we just take care and normalise things.
ruby said:
roughbarked said:
ruby said:I feel pretty lucky.
I had a great conversation with one of the newer walking buddies, about how us women feel always on guard walking by ourselves. She has a German Shepherd, and says she feels quite different about walking when she takes her King Charles Cavalier. We also talked about how hard it makes it for men, though perhaps most men don’t even realise this is going on.
Yep. The thought hadn’t crossed my mind until you mentioned it but then it is at least forty years since I walked on a beach at dawn.
It’s not just at the beach, or on solo bushwalks.
It was the fascinating part of the Me Too movement. Seeing just how much women’s experiences are not talked about, we just take care and normalise things.
there was a thread about ‘all women’. which included things like knowing what it feels like to hold your keys between your fingers, thinking about where you park your car at the beginning of they so you can feel safer getting to it at the end. Not just walking – surveying. etc and so on
ruby said:
roughbarked said:
ruby said:I feel pretty lucky.
I had a great conversation with one of the newer walking buddies, about how us women feel always on guard walking by ourselves. She has a German Shepherd, and says she feels quite different about walking when she takes her King Charles Cavalier. We also talked about how hard it makes it for men, though perhaps most men don’t even realise this is going on.
Yep. The thought hadn’t crossed my mind until you mentioned it but then it is at least forty years since I walked on a beach at dawn.
It’s not just at the beach, or on solo bushwalks.
It was the fascinating part of the Me Too movement. Seeing just how much women’s experiences are not talked about, we just take care and normalise things.
Yes you do.
dv said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
You astound me. I’d‘ve considered him one of the most famous people on earth.
His most recent performance as Vader was in Rogue One (2016) but he did have a lot of other roles.
Lion King, Patriot Ganes, Clear and Present Danger, Field of Dreams, Conan the Barbarian, Coming to America.
Even had a minor role in Dr Strangelove.
I’ve never had an interest in watching films, mainly because when I was young I didn’t have the money to go to a cinema. Although I’ve heard of some of those films, I’ve not seen any of them.
Arts said:
ruby said:
roughbarked said:Yep. The thought hadn’t crossed my mind until you mentioned it but then it is at least forty years since I walked on a beach at dawn.
It’s not just at the beach, or on solo bushwalks.
It was the fascinating part of the Me Too movement. Seeing just how much women’s experiences are not talked about, we just take care and normalise things.there was a thread about ‘all women’. which included things like knowing what it feels like to hold your keys between your fingers, thinking about where you park your car at the beginning of they so you can feel safer getting to it at the end. Not just walking – surveying. etc and so on
Yep. All normalised and not talked about. I do it. But found it so hard to have daughters and to try to talk to them about it without making them fearful. I reckon we did pretty well, but they have told me about some awful things they had to deal with. And now I have grand daughters.
dv said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
James Earl Jones has passed away. :(I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
You astound me. I’d‘ve considered him one of the most famous people on earth.
His most recent performance as Vader was in Rogue One (2016) but he did have a lot of other roles.
Lion King, Patriot Ganes, Clear and Present Danger, Field of Dreams, Conan the Barbarian, Coming to America.
Even had a minor role in Dr Strangelove.
I did hear Darth Vader’s voice because I had to take the kids to the first one.
Have a vague memory of not aving seen Dr strangelove. The others, nup.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Michael V said:I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
You astound me. I’d‘ve considered him one of the most famous people on earth.
His most recent performance as Vader was in Rogue One (2016) but he did have a lot of other roles.
Lion King, Patriot Ganes, Clear and Present Danger, Field of Dreams, Conan the Barbarian, Coming to America.
Even had a minor role in Dr Strangelove.I’ve never had an interest in watching films, mainly because when I was young I didn’t have the money to go to a cinema. Although I’ve heard of some of those films, I’ve not seen any of them.
Used to go to the movies mainly to swap comics outside.
At an early age decided that they were all made up and wasn’t much interested after that. Besides, our theatres both closed down and we had a drive-in for a short time before it closed as well.
ruby said:
Arts said:
ruby said:It’s not just at the beach, or on solo bushwalks.
It was the fascinating part of the Me Too movement. Seeing just how much women’s experiences are not talked about, we just take care and normalise things.there was a thread about ‘all women’. which included things like knowing what it feels like to hold your keys between your fingers, thinking about where you park your car at the beginning of they so you can feel safer getting to it at the end. Not just walking – surveying. etc and so on
Yep. All normalised and not talked about. I do it. But found it so hard to have daughters and to try to talk to them about it without making them fearful. I reckon we did pretty well, but they have told me about some awful things they had to deal with. And now I have grand daughters.
I never. Well, I was always scared of women. Until the odd one tried to be friendly with me.
roughbarked said:
ruby said:
roughbarked said:
Yep. The thought hadn’t crossed my mind until you mentioned it but then it is at least forty years since I walked on a beach at dawn.
It’s not just at the beach, or on solo bushwalks.
It was the fascinating part of the Me Too movement. Seeing just how much women’s experiences are not talked about, we just take care and normalise things.Yes you do.

SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
ruby said:
It’s not just at the beach, or on solo bushwalks.
It was the fascinating part of the Me Too movement. Seeing just how much women’s experiences are not talked about, we just take care and normalise things.Yes you do.
Nicely done SCIENCE.
ruby said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Yes you do.
Nicely done SCIENCE.
wasn’t us, it just seemed legit’ enough and worth thinking
Hello
ruby said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:Nicely done SCIENCE.Yes you do.
All of these.
OCDC said:
ruby said:And then I am grateful that I am a white woman in Australia.SCIENCE said:Nicely done SCIENCE.
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All of these.
>“Parents want their kids off their phones and on the footy field. So do I.”
Surely the footy field is also a dangerous place to be.
OCDC said:
ruby said:SCIENCE said:Nicely done SCIENCE.
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All of these.
As a hopefully aware male I try to minimise possibly scaring a woman in public
Mostly if walking behind them and we are the only two around by keeping reasonable distance of going to the other side of the road.
OCDC said:
OCDC said:ruby said:And then I am grateful that I am a white woman in Australia.Nicely done SCIENCE.
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All of these.
That is somewhat disheartening.
It’s not equal here for woman but it ain’t anywhere near bad a say Afghanistan.

Bubblecar said:
>“Parents want their kids off their phones and on the footy field. So do I.”Surely the footy field is also a dangerous place to be.
Yeah non-contact sports are the way to go.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:I’m particularly good at rotting.>“Parents want their kids off their phones and on the footy field. So do I.”Yeah non-contact sports are the way to go.Surely the footy field is also a dangerous place to be.
Think I’ll serve the luncheon sausage rolls with chilli beans and fruit chutney.
But right now, stop thinking about food and straighten the living room rug. Then dust the bedroom.
Watching a vid about the square piano, and I can smell ours (which is in Warragul, and I am not).
OCDC said:
Watching a vid about the square piano, and I can smell ours (which is in Warragul, and I am not).To clarify – ours is an upright, not square.
Bubblecar said:
>“Parents want their kids off their phones and on the footy field. So do I.”Surely the footy field is also a dangerous place to be.
We have to start somewhere. We can’t just send them down the coal-mines and up the chimneys without some intermediate steps, to acclimate the populace to the practices.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
>“Parents want their kids off their phones and on the footy field. So do I.”Surely the footy field is also a dangerous place to be.
Yeah non-contact sports are the way to go.
Also, I could be wrong, but if parents want their kids off their phones, isn’t it up to them to get them off their phones? You don’t see the government legislating doing the dishes…
Cymek said:
OCDC said:
ruby said:Nicely done SCIENCE.
![]()
All of these.
As a hopefully aware male I try to minimise possibly scaring a woman in public
Mostly if walking behind them and we are the only two around by keeping reasonable distance of going to the other side of the road.
while i recognise the fearfulness ofthe situaton women encounter, and while i also often try to avoid projecting any possibility of threat…
…an English comedian (can’t remember who) had a story of when he was waiting in a line for an ATM.
A lady, obviously of African origins, was ahead of him. She said to him, “pardon me, i’m from Nigeria, and, i hope you won’t take this the wrong way, but in that country, men and women keep a good distance apart if they don’t know each other. It’s silly, i know, but i’m still used to that. Could you please step back a little?”.
Well, of course he said , yes, no problem, and moved back until they were separated by about three metres.
Then someone else came and joined the queue behind him. He realised that they were pondering on the separation distance, and he explained to them “She’s from Nigeria, so i don’t want to get too close to her”.
Further explanations followed, very quickly.
OCDC said:
Watching a vid about the square piano, and I can smell ours (which is in Warragul, and I am not).
Is the piano green?
furious said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
>“Parents want their kids off their phones and on the footy field. So do I.”Surely the footy field is also a dangerous place to be.
Yeah non-contact sports are the way to go.
Also, I could be wrong, but if parents want their kids off their phones, isn’t it up to them to get them off their phones? You don’t see the government legislating doing the dishes…
kids get locked up as young as 10… but for fucks sake can we not let them watch tiktok dances?
Arts said:
furious said:
dv said:Yeah non-contact sports are the way to go.
Also, I could be wrong, but if parents want their kids off their phones, isn’t it up to them to get them off their phones? You don’t see the government legislating doing the dishes…
kids get locked up as young as 10… but for fucks sake can we not let them watch tiktok dances?
Tik-Tok dances are the gateway to communism.
Let them watch someone ‘busting a move’ (as i believe ‘the kids’ call it), and the next thing you know, they’re waving little red books, denouncing their parents, and beating landlords to death. And two of those things are most disturbing.
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:
furious said:Also, I could be wrong, but if parents want their kids off their phones, isn’t it up to them to get them off their phones? You don’t see the government legislating doing the dishes…
kids get locked up as young as 10… but for fucks sake can we not let them watch tiktok dances?
Tik-Tok dances are the gateway to communism.
Let them watch someone ‘busting a move’ (as i believe ‘the kids’ call it), and the next thing you know, they’re waving little red books, denouncing their parents, and beating landlords to death. And two of those things are most disturbing.
I have a little red book.
Michael V said:
I have a little red book.
Do you?
I haven’t seen one for donkeys’ years.
They might be quite the collector’s item these days.
Michael V said:
OCDC said:No.Watching a vid about the square piano, and I can smell ours (which is in Warragul, and I am not).Is the piano green?
Featuring Josie C1997


Explaining memes on the HF
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:I have a little red book.
Do you?
I haven’t seen one for donkeys’ years.
They might be quite the collector’s item these days.
I’ve never read it. Bought it when I was in high school. Probably 1967. But it is falling apart, it was so poorly made. It’s in Chinese and English.
dv said:
Not just memes…![]()
Explaining memes on the HF
OCDC said:
Michael V said:OCDC said:No.Watching a vid about the square piano, and I can smell ours (which is in Warragul, and I am not).Is the piano green?
Featuring Josie C1997
It was an attempt at a joke. “Warragul Greens”.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:I have a little red book.
Do you?
I haven’t seen one for donkeys’ years.
They might be quite the collector’s item these days.
I’ve never read it. Bought it when I was in high school. Probably 1967. But it is falling apart, it was so poorly made. It’s in Chinese and English.
1967. Genuine Red Guard issue. Could be worth a quid.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
>“Parents want their kids off their phones and on the footy field. So do I.”
Surely the footy field is also a dangerous place to be.
Yeah non-contact sports are the way to go.
so solitary confinement then
Michael V said:
OCDC said:Aha.Michael V said:It was an attempt at a joke. “Warragul Greens”.Is the piano green?No.
Featuring Josie C1997
lol
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:Do you?
I haven’t seen one for donkeys’ years.
They might be quite the collector’s item these days.
I’ve never read it. Bought it when I was in high school. Probably 1967. But it is falling apart, it was so poorly made. It’s in Chinese and English.
1967. Genuine Red Guard issue. Could be worth a quid.
I should be so lucky. No indication of when printed or by whom. 317 pages long!
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:
OCDC said:
All of these.
As a hopefully aware male I try to minimise possibly scaring a woman in public
Mostly if walking behind them and we are the only two around by keeping reasonable distance of going to the other side of the road.
while i recognise the fearfulness ofthe situaton women encounter, and while i also often try to avoid projecting any possibility of threat…
…an English comedian (can’t remember who) had a story of when he was waiting in a line for an ATM.
A lady, obviously of African origins, was ahead of him. She said to him, “pardon me, i’m from Nigeria, and, i hope you won’t take this the wrong way, but in that country, men and women keep a good distance apart if they don’t know each other. It’s silly, i know, but i’m still used to that. Could you please step back a little?”.
Well, of course he said , yes, no problem, and moved back until they were separated by about three metres.
Then someone else came and joined the queue behind him. He realised that they were pondering on the separation distance, and he explained to them “She’s from Nigeria, so i don’t want to get too close to her”.
Further explanations followed, very quickly.
we get what yous’re saying but if the current prevailing theory is correct then if it’s obviously a human it’s obviously from Africa right
OCDC said:
dv said:
Not just memes…![]()
Explaining memes on the HF
but also youyous
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:I’ve never read it. Bought it when I was in high school. Probably 1967. But it is falling apart, it was so poorly made. It’s in Chinese and English.
1967. Genuine Red Guard issue. Could be worth a quid.
I should be so lucky. No indication of when printed or by whom. 317 pages long!
…and tiresome from start to finish.
dv said:
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Explaining memes on the HF
we also don’t understand we thought modern lithium ion battery performance was optimal with cycling between 0.4 and 0.8 soc so
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:1967. Genuine Red Guard issue. Could be worth a quid.
I should be so lucky. No indication of when printed or by whom. 317 pages long!
…and tiresome from start to finish.
I was thinking that just then
Is it a good read of some rambling manifesto from someone perhaps a bit tapped in the head.
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:I should be so lucky. No indication of when printed or by whom. 317 pages long!
…and tiresome from start to finish.
I was thinking that just then
Is it a good read of some rambling manifesto from someone perhaps a bit tapped in the head.
It’s a big pose by Mao. He always thought of himself as being an intellectual, and the Quotations was a way of getting a lot of ‘deep’ thoughts of his into the hands of his personality cult.
He was, it seems, never sure of his intellectual status, and so felt most threatened by other intellectuals, which goes a long way to explaining his intolerance of and violence towards other thinkers in the CCP, and why he was happy to foment aggression against teachers and university lecturers etc. during the Cultural Revolution.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:kids get locked up as young as 10… but for fucks sake can we not let them watch tiktok dances?
Tik-Tok dances are the gateway to communism.
Let them watch someone ‘busting a move’ (as i believe ‘the kids’ call it), and the next thing you know, they’re waving little red books, denouncing their parents, and beating landlords to death. And two of those things are most disturbing.
I have a little red book.
i printed a little red school book.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:Tik-Tok dances are the gateway to communism.
Let them watch someone ‘busting a move’ (as i believe ‘the kids’ call it), and the next thing you know, they’re waving little red books, denouncing their parents, and beating landlords to death. And two of those things are most disturbing.
I have a little red book.
i printed a little red school book.
….. and a shit stink stir that caused at the time, it did.
JudgeMental, does your phrazle reset at midday local time?
OCDC said:
JudgeMental, does your phrazle reset at midday local time?
dunno, i just do the morning one. just had a look and my next one is in 13+ hours.
JudgeMental said:
OCDC said:Interesting. Mine is 11 hours. I don’t recall having seen it any more than 12 before.JudgeMental, does your phrazle reset at midday local time?dunno, i just do the morning one. just had a look and my next one is in 13+ hours.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Tik-Tok dances are the gateway to communism.
Let them watch someone ‘busting a move’ (as i believe ‘the kids’ call it), and the next thing you know, they’re waving little red books, denouncing their parents, and beating landlords to death. And two of those things are most disturbing.
I have a little red book.
i printed a little red school book.
pretty much all our books are little read
OCDC said:
ruby said:SCIENCE said:Nicely done SCIENCE.
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All of these.
I will also add that this doesn’t change the older you get… this is life long and persistent surveillance.
Arts said:
OCDC said:Number of strategies increases with age for me.ruby said:I will also add that this doesn’t change the older you get… this is life long and persistent surveillance.Nicely done SCIENCE.
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All of these.
Arts said:
OCDC said:
ruby said:
Nicely done SCIENCE.
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All of these.
I will also add that this doesn’t change the older you get… this is life long and persistent surveillance.
can it be improved
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:…and tiresome from start to finish.
I was thinking that just then
Is it a good read of some rambling manifesto from someone perhaps a bit tapped in the head.
It’s a big pose by Mao. He always thought of himself as being an intellectual, and the Quotations was a way of getting a lot of ‘deep’ thoughts of his into the hands of his personality cult.
He was, it seems, never sure of his intellectual status, and so felt most threatened by other intellectuals, which goes a long way to explaining his intolerance of and violence towards other thinkers in the CCP, and why he was happy to foment aggression against teachers and university lecturers etc. during the Cultural Revolution.
Didn ‘t he tell them to go kill the sparrows and they did?
Darth Vader has gone to the dark side. :(
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
OCDC said:
All of these.
I will also add that this doesn’t change the older you get… this is life long and persistent surveillance.
can it be improved
yes and no.. I mean there have been strategies that target the safety of women.. like ‘pink parking bays’ near the entrances of carparks so women don’t have to venture into the (often) dimly lit multi-storey parking garage, or take stairs or elevators. Better lighting in carparks in general. Escorts to carparks once dusk falls. Better surveillance (though this does not have the effect of prevention). Personal alarms, personal protection devices like mace etc.. but all of them are victim based.
Longer term we can change social conventions of patriarchal societal attitudes of hierarchy.. that is much more difficult, often due to men feeling like their rights are being taken away (which is ironic really)
We can address the issues that create antisocial behaviours that perpetrate violence against women – also a long road.
I mean the ways to combat it is really to start with the behaviours.. but that is not a four year solution that governments like, it’s quicker and easier to slap a coat of paint on some carparks and call it a solution… but that wont stop women from holding their car keys between their fingers as they walk to their car.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Michael V said:I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
You astound me. I’d‘ve considered him one of the most famous people on earth.
His most recent performance as Vader was in Rogue One (2016) but he did have a lot of other roles.
Lion King, Patriot Ganes, Clear and Present Danger, Field of Dreams, Conan the Barbarian, Coming to America.
Even had a minor role in Dr Strangelove.I’ve never had an interest in watching films, mainly because when I was young I didn’t have the money to go to a cinema. Although I’ve heard of some of those films, I’ve not seen any of them.
I’m a little bit (but only a little bit) ahead of you then MV…I’ve seen bits of “Coming to America”. Because Mr buffy watches any old TV and I’ve wandered in and seen part of it. Probably all of it in bits.
lunch will be, errr, not tellin’ ya, can’t tell ya, lose me job as minister for secrets, anyway I can tells ya it will be in folded bread, sauce and pepper over, and further it’s in the fry pan now frying would you believe, making frying sounds, being reheated
very long yawn don’t inhale that, you’ve been warned, instant crippling catatonia for certain, you’ll be frozen like a stone statue
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
I will also add that this doesn’t change the older you get… this is life long and persistent surveillance.
can it be improved
yes and no.. I mean there have been strategies that target the safety of women.. like ‘pink parking bays’ near the entrances of carparks so women don’t have to venture into the (often) dimly lit multi-storey parking garage, or take stairs or elevators. Better lighting in carparks in general. Escorts to carparks once dusk falls. Better surveillance (though this does not have the effect of prevention). Personal alarms, personal protection devices like mace etc.. but all of them are victim based.
Longer term we can change social conventions of patriarchal societal attitudes of hierarchy.. that is much more difficult, often due to men feeling like their rights are being taken away (which is ironic really)
We can address the issues that create antisocial behaviours that perpetrate violence against women – also a long road.
I mean the ways to combat it is really to start with the behaviours.. but that is not a four year solution that governments like, it’s quicker and easier to slap a coat of paint on some carparks and call it a solution… but that wont stop women from holding their car keys between their fingers as they walk to their car.
obviously aside from hoping that things improve and trying to understand ways that s significant change can be achieved, we’re just thinking at what threshold people would actually feel safe like shootings do happen here in Australia but we don’t walk down our streets worried we’ll be shot, stabbings a bit more frequent but we only think about that one in five times we brave a crowd, it’s a sense of the size of the problem
transition said:
lunch will be, errr, not tellin’ ya, can’t tell ya, lose me job as minister for secrets, anyway I can tells ya it will be in folded bread, sauce and pepper over, and further it’s in the fry pan now frying would you believe, making frying sounds, being reheatedvery long yawn don’t inhale that, you’ve been warned, instant crippling catatonia for certain, you’ll be frozen like a stone statue
Sausage sizzle?
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:Arts said:
I will also add that this doesn’t change the older you get… this is life long and persistent surveillance.
can it be improved
yes and no.. I mean there have been strategies that target the safety of women.. like ‘pink parking bays’ near the entrances of carparks so women don’t have to venture into the (often) dimly lit multi-storey parking garage, or take stairs or elevators. Better lighting in carparks in general. Escorts to carparks once dusk falls. Better surveillance (though this does not have the effect of prevention). Personal alarms, personal protection devices like mace etc.. but all of them are victim based.
Longer term we can change social conventions of patriarchal societal attitudes of hierarchy.. that is much more difficult, often due to men feeling like their rights are being taken away (which is ironic really)
We can address the issues that create antisocial behaviours that perpetrate violence against women – also a long road.
I mean the ways to combat it is really to start with the behaviours.. but that is not a four year solution that governments like, it’s quicker and easier to slap a coat of paint on some carparks and call it a solution… but that wont stop women from holding their car keys between their fingers as they walk to their car.
Have you found men who are aware of this.
I mean I am as I’m not an idiot and realise men can appear intimidating even if they aren’t visibly threatening.
Me modifying my behaviour like crossing over so they may feel less threatened is no big deal at all.
other news, I need change oils in lady’s little car after lunch, engine and transmission
maybe gets to cleaning evaporative cooler pads etc out at some stage, drop some bleach in them for a while, recycle it kills mold etc
and i’ll gets a last load of wood sometime this week, next few days, go out in the morn on a good dew, grass all drying out fast enough need start considering possibility of starting a fire, avoiding it of course
and that’s all from the minister of secrets, for the moment
So…I got back from the cinema after watching Betelgeuse Betelgeuse
roughbarked said:
transition said:
lunch will be, errr, not tellin’ ya, can’t tell ya, lose me job as minister for secrets, anyway I can tells ya it will be in folded bread, sauce and pepper over, and further it’s in the fry pan now frying would you believe, making frying sounds, being reheatedvery long yawn don’t inhale that, you’ve been warned, instant crippling catatonia for certain, you’ll be frozen like a stone statue
Sausage sizzle?
taunting the minister of secrets, I see what you’re doing, I saw that, such trickery will get you no where
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
can it be improved
yes and no.. I mean there have been strategies that target the safety of women.. like ‘pink parking bays’ near the entrances of carparks so women don’t have to venture into the (often) dimly lit multi-storey parking garage, or take stairs or elevators. Better lighting in carparks in general. Escorts to carparks once dusk falls. Better surveillance (though this does not have the effect of prevention). Personal alarms, personal protection devices like mace etc.. but all of them are victim based.
Longer term we can change social conventions of patriarchal societal attitudes of hierarchy.. that is much more difficult, often due to men feeling like their rights are being taken away (which is ironic really)
We can address the issues that create antisocial behaviours that perpetrate violence against women – also a long road.
I mean the ways to combat it is really to start with the behaviours.. but that is not a four year solution that governments like, it’s quicker and easier to slap a coat of paint on some carparks and call it a solution… but that wont stop women from holding their car keys between their fingers as they walk to their car.
obviously aside from hoping that things improve and trying to understand ways that s significant change can be achieved, we’re just thinking at what threshold people would actually feel safe like shootings do happen here in Australia but we don’t walk down our streets worried we’ll be shot, stabbings a bit more frequent but we only think about that one in five times we brave a crowd, it’s a sense of the size of the problem
the fear of crime is a bigger issue that is known, given that many people do not express it, while they still lock their doors while driving in their car and target harden their homes.
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:Arts said:
yes and no.. I mean there have been strategies that target the safety of women.. like ‘pink parking bays’ near the entrances of carparks so women don’t have to venture into the (often) dimly lit multi-storey parking garage, or take stairs or elevators. Better lighting in carparks in general. Escorts to carparks once dusk falls. Better surveillance (though this does not have the effect of prevention). Personal alarms, personal protection devices like mace etc.. but all of them are victim based.
Longer term we can change social conventions of patriarchal societal attitudes of hierarchy.. that is much more difficult, often due to men feeling like their rights are being taken away (which is ironic really)
We can address the issues that create antisocial behaviours that perpetrate violence against women – also a long road.
I mean the ways to combat it is really to start with the behaviours.. but that is not a four year solution that governments like, it’s quicker and easier to slap a coat of paint on some carparks and call it a solution… but that wont stop women from holding their car keys between their fingers as they walk to their car.
obviously aside from hoping that things improve and trying to understand ways that s significant change can be achieved, we’re just thinking at what threshold people would actually feel safe like shootings do happen here in Australia but we don’t walk down our streets worried we’ll be shot, stabbings a bit more frequent but we only think about that one in five times we brave a crowd, it’s a sense of the size of the problem
the fear of crime is a bigger issue that is known, given that many people do not express it, while they still lock their doors while driving in their car and target harden their homes.
I don’t lock my doors while driving but then I’m a reasonably formidable white male.
Cymek said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:can it be improved
yes and no.. I mean there have been strategies that target the safety of women.. like ‘pink parking bays’ near the entrances of carparks so women don’t have to venture into the (often) dimly lit multi-storey parking garage, or take stairs or elevators. Better lighting in carparks in general. Escorts to carparks once dusk falls. Better surveillance (though this does not have the effect of prevention). Personal alarms, personal protection devices like mace etc.. but all of them are victim based.
Longer term we can change social conventions of patriarchal societal attitudes of hierarchy.. that is much more difficult, often due to men feeling like their rights are being taken away (which is ironic really)
We can address the issues that create antisocial behaviours that perpetrate violence against women – also a long road.
I mean the ways to combat it is really to start with the behaviours.. but that is not a four year solution that governments like, it’s quicker and easier to slap a coat of paint on some carparks and call it a solution… but that wont stop women from holding their car keys between their fingers as they walk to their car.
Have you found men who are aware of this.
I mean I am as I’m not an idiot and realise men can appear intimidating even if they aren’t visibly threatening.
Me modifying my behaviour like crossing over so they may feel less threatened is no big deal at all.
there are of course the ‘not all men’ people.. and while they are correct, this sort of thing diminishes the very real fear that women have.. we know it’s not all men, but it only need to be one.
added to that there are some men who, while they might not overtly perpetrate crimes they do get a kick over feeling superior and inciting fear in others.
What’s happened to 12foot ladder?
Witty Rejoinder said:
What’s happened to 12foot ladder?
been gone for ages. maybe the media didn’t like it and complained to someone.
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
What’s happened to 12foot ladder?
been gone for ages. maybe the media didn’t like it and complained to someone.
although
https://12ft.io
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
What’s happened to 12foot ladder?
been gone for ages. maybe the media didn’t like it and complained to someone.
although
https://12ft.io
On August 31, 2022, the site was offline, with the hosting provider displaying the error message of “DEPLOYMENT DISABLED” and the HTTP 451 status code, meaning “Unavailable For Legal Reasons”. The site came back online on September 1st, but was disabled again on September 10th. The site was available again as of September 11th, but was no longer showing cached versions of pages for NYTimes.com, instead displaying a message of “12ft has been disabled for this site”. On July 30, 2023, the site’s security certificate appeared to be invalid. The certificate in question was issued by Cisco Umbrella Secondary SubCA lax-SG with an expiration date of August 3rd.
On November 2, 2023, the site only displayed an error 402 with a message “402: Payment Required. This Deployment has been disabled. Your connection is working correctly. Vercel is working correctly.” Thomas Millar announced that provider Vercel had removed his account access. Vercel stated this was because 12ft broke their Terms of Service. As of November 19, 2023, the site is up and running, and seems to be hosted on a new provider.
wiki
monkey skipper said:
So…I got back from the cinema after watching Betelgeuse Betelgeuse
Any good?
Michael V said:
dv said:
Michael V said:I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him before now.
Google tells me he was the voice of Darth Vader. I think that was a very long time ago.
You astound me. I’d‘ve considered him one of the most famous people on earth.
His most recent performance as Vader was in Rogue One (2016) but he did have a lot of other roles.
Lion King, Patriot Ganes, Clear and Present Danger, Field of Dreams, Conan the Barbarian, Coming to America.
Even had a minor role in Dr Strangelove.I’ve never had an interest in watching films, mainly because when I was young I didn’t have the money to go to a cinema. Although I’ve heard of some of those films, I’ve not seen any of them.
CTTOI I didn’t see any of those at the cinema either but movies did get shown on television…
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:yes and no.. I mean there have been strategies that target the safety of women.. like ‘pink parking bays’ near the entrances of carparks so women don’t have to venture into the (often) dimly lit multi-storey parking garage, or take stairs or elevators. Better lighting in carparks in general. Escorts to carparks once dusk falls. Better surveillance (though this does not have the effect of prevention). Personal alarms, personal protection devices like mace etc.. but all of them are victim based.
Longer term we can change social conventions of patriarchal societal attitudes of hierarchy.. that is much more difficult, often due to men feeling like their rights are being taken away (which is ironic really)
We can address the issues that create antisocial behaviours that perpetrate violence against women – also a long road.
I mean the ways to combat it is really to start with the behaviours.. but that is not a four year solution that governments like, it’s quicker and easier to slap a coat of paint on some carparks and call it a solution… but that wont stop women from holding their car keys between their fingers as they walk to their car.
Have you found men who are aware of this.
I mean I am as I’m not an idiot and realise men can appear intimidating even if they aren’t visibly threatening.
Me modifying my behaviour like crossing over so they may feel less threatened is no big deal at all.
there are of course the ‘not all men’ people.. and while they are correct, this sort of thing diminishes the very real fear that women have.. we know it’s not all men, but it only need to be one.
added to that there are some men who, while they might not overtly perpetrate crimes they do get a kick over feeling superior and inciting fear in others.
The discussion I had this morning was less ‘fearful’ and more about being aware and prepared.
My woman friend and I had both noted to ourselves that there has been a new man on the beach at dawn, hanging around at a distance from our group watching us. This morning with none of our male friends around, we mentioned it to each other. Aware and prepared.
And also somewhat annoyed that we keep pretending that this isn’t happening, and that conversations around it are muted so as not to annoy.
added to that there are some men who, while they might not overtly perpetrate crimes they do get a kick over feeling superior and inciting fear in others
Ahhh yes. And these sort of men can be found calling themselves ‘alpha’.
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:You astound me. I’d‘ve considered him one of the most famous people on earth.
His most recent performance as Vader was in Rogue One (2016) but he did have a lot of other roles.
Lion King, Patriot Ganes, Clear and Present Danger, Field of Dreams, Conan the Barbarian, Coming to America.
Even had a minor role in Dr Strangelove.I’ve never had an interest in watching films, mainly because when I was young I didn’t have the money to go to a cinema. Although I’ve heard of some of those films, I’ve not seen any of them.
CTTOI I didn’t see any of those at the cinema either but movies did get shown on television…
He was on The Big Bang Theory as himself and it was amusing as he was a booze hound and party dude
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
So…I got back from the cinema after watching Betelgeuse Betelgeuse
Any good?
I enjoyed it, the reviews of the sequel were a bit of a mixed bag. A lighthearted comedy, I opted for cheap Tuesday rather than the gold lounge, so … I would not be disappointed.
A fun midday flick viewing
Cymek said:
dv said:
Michael V said:I’ve never had an interest in watching films, mainly because when I was young I didn’t have the money to go to a cinema. Although I’ve heard of some of those films, I’ve not seen any of them.
CTTOI I didn’t see any of those at the cinema either but movies did get shown on television…
He was on The Big Bang Theory as himself and it was amusing as he was a booze hound and party dude
Checks out: Wil Wheaten is evil after all.
ruby said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:Have you found men who are aware of this.
I mean I am as I’m not an idiot and realise men can appear intimidating even if they aren’t visibly threatening.
Me modifying my behaviour like crossing over so they may feel less threatened is no big deal at all.
there are of course the ‘not all men’ people.. and while they are correct, this sort of thing diminishes the very real fear that women have.. we know it’s not all men, but it only need to be one.
added to that there are some men who, while they might not overtly perpetrate crimes they do get a kick over feeling superior and inciting fear in others.
The discussion I had this morning was less ‘fearful’ and more about being aware and prepared.
My woman friend and I had both noted to ourselves that there has been a new man on the beach at dawn, hanging around at a distance from our group watching us. This morning with none of our male friends around, we mentioned it to each other. Aware and prepared.
And also somewhat annoyed that we keep pretending that this isn’t happening, and that conversations around it are muted so as not to annoy.added to that there are some men who, while they might not overtly perpetrate crimes they do get a kick over feeling superior and inciting fear in others
Ahhh yes. And these sort of men can be found calling themselves ‘alpha’.
ugh alpha males, they annoy me as well.
Such bullshit and a step backwards for men trying to be more decent for no reason that we should

I enjoy Michael Keaton’s comedy style.
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
So…I got back from the cinema after watching Betelgeuse Betelgeuse
Any good?
I enjoyed it, the reviews of the sequel were a bit of a mixed bag. A lighthearted comedy, I opted for cheap Tuesday rather than the gold lounge, so … I would not be disappointed.
A fun midday flick viewing
Goodo. So you’re currently on holiday?
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:Any good?
I enjoyed it, the reviews of the sequel were a bit of a mixed bag. A lighthearted comedy, I opted for cheap Tuesday rather than the gold lounge, so … I would not be disappointed.
A fun midday flick viewing
Goodo. So you’re currently on holiday?
yup, in the second week
OK, I’m going to fling some arrows. Back later.
buffy said:
OK, I’m going to fling some arrows. Back later.
Remember: pointy end to the front.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/7S9LZb7fvB8HGoMP/?mibextid=D5vuiz
Walnuts
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/1-700-year-old-germanic-warrior-s-grave-unearthed-with-roman-era-treasures/ar-AA1qirFC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=76146fe17e204b16a1f33905bb71ba32&ei=7
1,700-Year-Old Germanic Warrior’s Grave Unearthed with Roman-Era Treasures
Story by Camilla Jessen • 13m • 2 min read
Archaeologists have unearthed a 1,700-year-old grave of a “barbarian” near the former frontier of the Roman Empire in modern-day Germany.
The grave was recently found in the village of Gerstetten, 65 km east of Stuttgart. According to the archaeologists, it belonged to a man in his 60s, buried with valuable goods that hint at his elevated status.
The burial site contained valuable items, including pottery, glassware, and a fine-tooth comb, suggesting the man held a prominent status. His grave was elaborately constructed within a wooden chamber at a solitary, elevated location, according to researchers in a press release by Stuttgart Regional Council.
Rare Discovery: Ancient Colored Scylla Sculptures Found in Laodicea
The Barbarians
The Romans referred to Germanic tribal people as “barbarians,” meaning “people who speak differently.” Archaeologists believe the man likely belonged to the Alemanni, a Germanic tribe that lived near the Upper Rhine River.
Germanic tribes, including the Alemanni, played a key role in the eventual fall of the Western Roman Empire in the fifth century. The 4th to 8th centuries marked a period of change in Europe, known as the Migration Period. While this time period lacks detailed written records, archaeological findings from barbarian cemeteries provide essential insights into the era’s cultural and social transformations.
Graves from this period are rare, particularly early Germanic ones. Most discoveries have been made in the southwestern German state of Baden-Württemberg, near the borders of France and Switzerland.
The grave’s location, on Bismarckstraße in Gerstetten, was excavated in early May, and the discovery was announced by the Stuttgart Regional Council.
Two ceramic vessels from the grave have been restored, and carbon dating of a rib from the site confirmed the man died between 263 and 342 AD.
The same dye that gives Twinkies their yellowish hue could be the key to invisibility.
Applying the dye to lab mice made their skin temporarily transparent, allowing Stanford University researchers to observe the rodents’ digestive system, muscle fibers, and blood vessels, according to a study published September 5 in Science.
The work drew upon optical concepts first described in the early 20th century to form a surprising theory: Applying a light-absorbing substance could render skin transparent by reducing the chaotic scattering of light as it strikes proteins, fats, and water in tissue.
A search for a suitable light absorber led to FD&C Yellow 5, also called tartrazine, a synthetic color additive certified by the US Food and Drug Administration for use in foods, cosmetics, and medications.
Rubbed on live mice (after areas of fur were removed using a drugstore depilatory cream), tartrazine rendered skin on their bellies, hind legs, and heads transparent within 5 minutes. With the naked eye, the researchers watched a mouse’s intestines, bladder, and liver at work. Using a microscope, they observed muscle fibers and saw blood vessels in a living mouse’s brain — all without making incisions. Transparency faded quickly when the dye was washed off.
OCDC said:
The same dye that gives Twinkies their yellowish hue could be the key to invisibility.Applying the dye to lab mice made their skin temporarily transparent, allowing Stanford University researchers to observe the rodents’ digestive system, muscle fibers, and blood vessels, according to a study published September 5 in Science.
The work drew upon optical concepts first described in the early 20th century to form a surprising theory: Applying a light-absorbing substance could render skin transparent by reducing the chaotic scattering of light as it strikes proteins, fats, and water in tissue.
A search for a suitable light absorber led to FD&C Yellow 5, also called tartrazine, a synthetic color additive certified by the US Food and Drug Administration for use in foods, cosmetics, and medications.
Rubbed on live mice (after areas of fur were removed using a drugstore depilatory cream), tartrazine rendered skin on their bellies, hind legs, and heads transparent within 5 minutes. With the naked eye, the researchers watched a mouse’s intestines, bladder, and liver at work. Using a microscope, they observed muscle fibers and saw blood vessels in a living mouse’s brain — all without making incisions. Transparency faded quickly when the dye was washed off.
Could be a new fad for clubbing and such
OCDC said:
The same dye that gives Twinkies their yellowish hue could be the key to invisibility.Applying the dye to lab mice made their skin temporarily transparent, allowing Stanford University researchers to observe the rodents’ digestive system, muscle fibers, and blood vessels, according to a study published September 5 in Science.
The work drew upon optical concepts first described in the early 20th century to form a surprising theory: Applying a light-absorbing substance could render skin transparent by reducing the chaotic scattering of light as it strikes proteins, fats, and water in tissue.
A search for a suitable light absorber led to FD&C Yellow 5, also called tartrazine, a synthetic color additive certified by the US Food and Drug Administration for use in foods, cosmetics, and medications.
Rubbed on live mice (after areas of fur were removed using a drugstore depilatory cream), tartrazine rendered skin on their bellies, hind legs, and heads transparent within 5 minutes. With the naked eye, the researchers watched a mouse’s intestines, bladder, and liver at work. Using a microscope, they observed muscle fibers and saw blood vessels in a living mouse’s brain — all without making incisions. Transparency faded quickly when the dye was washed off.
Amazing.
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
The same dye that gives Twinkies their yellowish hue could be the key to invisibility.Applying the dye to lab mice made their skin temporarily transparent, allowing Stanford University researchers to observe the rodents’ digestive system, muscle fibers, and blood vessels, according to a study published September 5 in Science.
The work drew upon optical concepts first described in the early 20th century to form a surprising theory: Applying a light-absorbing substance could render skin transparent by reducing the chaotic scattering of light as it strikes proteins, fats, and water in tissue.
A search for a suitable light absorber led to FD&C Yellow 5, also called tartrazine, a synthetic color additive certified by the US Food and Drug Administration for use in foods, cosmetics, and medications.
Rubbed on live mice (after areas of fur were removed using a drugstore depilatory cream), tartrazine rendered skin on their bellies, hind legs, and heads transparent within 5 minutes. With the naked eye, the researchers watched a mouse’s intestines, bladder, and liver at work. Using a microscope, they observed muscle fibers and saw blood vessels in a living mouse’s brain — all without making incisions. Transparency faded quickly when the dye was washed off.
Amazing.
It is pretty cool isn’t it
People could do Cronenberg type performance art with it as well.
Cymek said:
OCDC said:
The same dye that gives Twinkies their yellowish hue could be the key to invisibility.
Applying the dye to lab mice made their skin temporarily transparent, allowing Stanford University researchers to observe the rodents’ digestive system, muscle fibers, and blood vessels, according to a study published September 5 in Science.
The work drew upon optical concepts first described in the early 20th century to form a surprising theory: Applying a light-absorbing substance could render skin transparent by reducing the chaotic scattering of light as it strikes proteins, fats, and water in tissue.
A search for a suitable light absorber led to FD&C Yellow 5, also called tartrazine, a synthetic color additive certified by the US Food and Drug Administration for use in foods, cosmetics, and medications.
Rubbed on live mice (after areas of fur were removed using a drugstore depilatory cream), tartrazine rendered skin on their bellies, hind legs, and heads transparent within 5 minutes. With the naked eye, the researchers watched a mouse’s intestines, bladder, and liver at work. Using a microscope, they observed muscle fibers and saw blood vessels in a living mouse’s brain — all without making incisions. Transparency faded quickly when the dye was washed off.
Could be a new fad for clubbing and such
take it with a shot of fluorescein
OCDC said:
The same dye that gives Twinkies their yellowish hue could be the key to invisibility.Applying the dye to lab mice made their skin temporarily transparent, allowing Stanford University researchers to observe the rodents’ digestive system, muscle fibers, and blood vessels, according to a study published September 5 in Science.
The work drew upon optical concepts first described in the early 20th century to form a surprising theory: Applying a light-absorbing substance could render skin transparent by reducing the chaotic scattering of light as it strikes proteins, fats, and water in tissue.
A search for a suitable light absorber led to FD&C Yellow 5, also called tartrazine, a synthetic color additive certified by the US Food and Drug Administration for use in foods, cosmetics, and medications.
Rubbed on live mice (after areas of fur were removed using a drugstore depilatory cream), tartrazine rendered skin on their bellies, hind legs, and heads transparent within 5 minutes. With the naked eye, the researchers watched a mouse’s intestines, bladder, and liver at work. Using a microscope, they observed muscle fibers and saw blood vessels in a living mouse’s brain — all without making incisions. Transparency faded quickly when the dye was washed off.
Deserves a thread
OCDC said:
The same dye that gives Twinkies their yellowish hue could be the key to invisibility.
Applying the dye to lab mice made their skin temporarily transparent, allowing Stanford University researchers to observe the rodents’ digestive system, muscle fibers, and blood vessels, according to a study published September 5 in Science.
The work drew upon optical concepts first described in the early 20th century to form a surprising theory: Applying a light-absorbing substance could render skin transparent by reducing the chaotic scattering of light as it strikes proteins, fats, and water in tissue.
A search for a suitable light absorber led to FD&C Yellow 5, also called tartrazine, a synthetic color additive certified by the US Food and Drug Administration for use in foods, cosmetics, and medications.
Rubbed on live mice (after areas of fur were removed using a drugstore depilatory cream), tartrazine rendered skin on their bellies, hind legs, and heads transparent within 5 minutes. With the naked eye, the researchers watched a mouse’s intestines, bladder, and liver at work. Using a microscope, they observed muscle fibers and saw blood vessels in a living mouse’s brain — all without making incisions. Transparency faded quickly when the dye was washed off.
so it makes cranial bone transparent too
Home is the hunter, home from the hill.
I’m back. I shot much the same as usual…rather scattery, but all on the butt. And mostly on the target. The other two were honing their sights on their bows and being rather more serious about getting good shots. Discussions of Olympic and Paraolympic archers were had.
I brought home a cooked chook, which we are about to eat (some of it) with steamed beans and corn and some chips from a packet.
Mr Waterson looked up to see an object flying through the air, knowing his daughter had just left for a swim at the beach.
“I called her and said, ‘Watch out … there’s a door coming’,” he said.
The door came from a privately owned American RV-10 four-seater plane and the pilot and passenger landed safely after the incident.
Eurobodalla Shire Council told the ABC in a statement that the pilot told airport staff “the door latch was not secured properly”.
“ apologised for any anxiety the incident may have caused,” the statement read.
RangerJudy 1h
September 10: Eagles were heard with a duet very early. Dad brought in a gull chick at 6:24 and Lady fed the nestlings, until interrupted when he returned with a bream just before 7am. Both then fed very well. Just after 9am Dad returned to the nest to the left-over fish, ate a little, then urged off by Lady, just returning with leaves. He did come back later after 9am and fed left-over fish to SE33- 34 not really interested. 2 well-fed nestlings, then after these 4 early feeds they slept in the warm nest. Eagles were in and out during the afternoon, duetting and calling nearby. Both brought leaves. Lady came to the nest just before 3pm, greeted by the nestlings chittering and moving towards her – they are more mobile now. SE34 is doing really well and is quite strong. 16:30- all were waiting and Lady calling softly. The just after 5pm, more prey- another gull chick and both fed – both at times standing to eat. Lady brought a last spray of leaves at end of day and then to settle on the nest at 6pm.
Peak Warming Man said:
RangerJudy 1h
September 10: Eagles were heard with a duet very early. Dad brought in a gull chick at 6:24 and Lady fed the nestlings, until interrupted when he returned with a bream just before 7am. Both then fed very well. Just after 9am Dad returned to the nest to the left-over fish, ate a little, then urged off by Lady, just returning with leaves. He did come back later after 9am and fed left-over fish to SE33- 34 not really interested. 2 well-fed nestlings, then after these 4 early feeds they slept in the warm nest. Eagles were in and out during the afternoon, duetting and calling nearby. Both brought leaves. Lady came to the nest just before 3pm, greeted by the nestlings chittering and moving towards her – they are more mobile now. SE34 is doing really well and is quite strong. 16:30- all were waiting and Lady calling softly. The just after 5pm, more prey- another gull chick and both fed – both at times standing to eat. Lady brought a last spray of leaves at end of day and then to settle on the nest at 6pm.
Hard-working birds.
I never knew James Jones was Luke Skywalkers father.
Peak Warming Man said:
I never knew James Jones was Luke Skywalkers father.
Damn, how about a spoiler warning?
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I never knew James Jones was Luke Skywalkers father.
Damn, how about a spoiler warning?
Spoiler warning? It’s a FORTY YEAR OLD MOVIE, f’crying out loud!
Neophyte said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I never knew James Jones was Luke Skywalkers father.
Damn, how about a spoiler warning?
Spoiler warning? It’s a FORTY YEAR OLD MOVIE, f’crying out loud!
I remember when forty year old movies were all black & white.
Neophyte said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I never knew James Jones was Luke Skywalkers father.
Damn, how about a spoiler warning?
Spoiler warning? It’s a FORTY YEAR OLD MOVIE, f’crying out loud!
Mate of mine at the nerd club was giving away a laser cutter, so I grabbed it. He said it might need a new CO2 laser tube, but I can get one for about $60 or so, so it’s surprisingly cheap to replace. It’s a 40W tube, I quietly hoping to be able to sneak in a 50W tube as they are much the same but the 50W is longer. I opened up the back of it today when having a poke around it, that’s gonna be a ‘no’ to a longer tube unfortunately.

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees at the back door and overcast. We are forecast 14 degrees with showers developing.
Supermarketing for me this morning.
Morning whovians, trekkers, fandersons etc. Another wet and nippy one forecast for the middle of the island, showers and max of 13.
Finishing the housework today for Friday’s inspection, it’s turned into a fairly thorough spring clean.
I dreamt that I’d rewritten a silly song I wrote in the 90’s called Who Broke my Barbie Bus to make it copyright free, as Who Broke my Bardy Bugs, bardy bugs being ornamental insects having the faces of William Shakespeare.
I surmised that with the right promotion it could be a hit song AND a new collectable craze.
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
What kind of person would do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?
I ask you
How in their heart could they do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt that I’d rewritten a silly song I wrote in the 90’s called Who Broke my Barbie Bus to make it copyright free, as Who Broke my Bardy Bugs, bardy bugs being ornamental insects having the faces of William Shakespeare.I surmised that with the right promotion it could be a hit song AND a new collectable craze.
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugsWhat kind of person would do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?
I ask you
How in their heart could they do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
What was it John Lennon said? Write four lines with a hook and put a back beat to it.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt that I’d rewritten a silly song I wrote in the 90’s called Who Broke my Barbie Bus to make it copyright free, as Who Broke my Bardy Bugs, bardy bugs being ornamental insects having the faces of William Shakespeare.I surmised that with the right promotion it could be a hit song AND a new collectable craze.
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugsWhat kind of person would do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?
I ask you
How in their heart could they do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
What was it John Lennon said? Write four lines with a hook and put a back beat to it.
This one has more a disco beat.
Only 5% chance of rain tomorrow so I’ll ring Mr Tunks later today and see if he can do the garden then.
Be good to have a neatly groomed garden to match the house for the inspection.
ABC News:

Possibly because it’s the number that’s closest to zero?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
Possibly because it’s the number that’s closest to zero?
Two uses of sparking and one of sparked in that item, not surprising I suppose given the performer’s name.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
Possibly because it’s the number that’s closest to zero?
Two uses of sparking and one of sparked in that item, not surprising I suppose given the performer’s name.
I suspect that she got the ‘number one ranking’ the same way that she got her gig at the Olympics: she knows the right person.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
Possibly because it’s the number that’s closest to zero?
Two uses of sparking and one of sparked in that item, not surprising I suppose given the performer’s name.
I suspect that she got the ‘number one ranking’ the same way that she got her gig at the Olympics: she knows the right person.
Maybe they base it on choob hits or suchlike. Would have been many looking her up for a laugh.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:Two uses of sparking and one of sparked in that item, not surprising I suppose given the performer’s name.
I suspect that she got the ‘number one ranking’ the same way that she got her gig at the Olympics: she knows the right person.
Maybe they base it on choob hits or suchlike. Would have been many looking her up for a laugh.
I looked, but didn’t laugh. i mean, it was comical, but not ha-ha comical. More like open-mouthed-disbelief comical.
Time to clean the pooter desk so sorry folks, going to have to turn the machine off for a while.
Can’t hoover the keyboard while it’s on without accidentally starting a nuclear war or suchlike.
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt that I’d rewritten a silly song I wrote in the 90’s called Who Broke my Barbie Bus to make it copyright free, as Who Broke my Bardy Bugs, bardy bugs being ornamental insects having the faces of William Shakespeare.I surmised that with the right promotion it could be a hit song AND a new collectable craze.
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugsWhat kind of person would do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?
I ask you
How in their heart could they do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Bardi grub:

Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt that I’d rewritten a silly song I wrote in the 90’s called Who Broke my Barbie Bus to make it copyright free, as Who Broke my Bardy Bugs, bardy bugs being ornamental insects having the faces of William Shakespeare.I surmised that with the right promotion it could be a hit song AND a new collectable craze.
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugsWhat kind of person would do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?
I ask you
How in their heart could they do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Bardi grub:
They have a nutty flavur.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt that I’d rewritten a silly song I wrote in the 90’s called Who Broke my Barbie Bus to make it copyright free, as Who Broke my Bardy Bugs, bardy bugs being ornamental insects having the faces of William Shakespeare.I surmised that with the right promotion it could be a hit song AND a new collectable craze.
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugsWhat kind of person would do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?
I ask you
How in their heart could they do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Bardi grub:
That’s a surprisingly close match.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt that I’d rewritten a silly song I wrote in the 90’s called Who Broke my Barbie Bus to make it copyright free, as Who Broke my Bardy Bugs, bardy bugs being ornamental insects having the faces of William Shakespeare.I surmised that with the right promotion it could be a hit song AND a new collectable craze.
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugsWhat kind of person would do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?
I ask you
How in their heart could they do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Bardi grub:
That’s a surprisingly close match.
Witchetty grub?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:Bardi grub:
That’s a surprisingly close match.
Witchetty grub?
They are both quite large. The Witchetty being the larger.
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt that I’d rewritten a silly song I wrote in the 90’s called Who Broke my Barbie Bus to make it copyright free, as Who Broke my Bardy Bugs, bardy bugs being ornamental insects having the faces of William Shakespeare.I surmised that with the right promotion it could be a hit song AND a new collectable craze.
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugsWhat kind of person would do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?
I ask you
How in their heart could they do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
That’s amazing
PWM, get your pipe ready.
The night before last I dreamt that a girl from primary school had been in a car accident and had gone completely blind. TAC rehab had funded a device for her which had a net of electrodes that went on the scalp and somehow let her see normally but also move her vision around in space without moving her body. We were setting it up for me to try when I woke.
Then last night I dreamt that the same girl was a fellow migraineur. Then she got cardiogenic shock from a brain stem stroke which had her pupils rapidly changing in size (small to big to small to big &c) and her eyes rolling. Ambos arrived while I was telling other ppl there to gather equipment such as an AED.
On a more normal note, brekkie was eggs &c, and it seems the garbos accepted my microwave which is hidden with a black wheelie bin bag.
Speaking of wheelie bins, I had a patient once who had run out of his beverage of choice (metho) and moved on to wheelie bin cleaner. ED staff did the poisons info bizzo before I admitted him.
OCDC said:
PWM, get your pipe ready.The night before last I dreamt that a girl from primary school had been in a car accident and had gone completely blind. TAC rehab had funded a device for her which had a net of electrodes that went on the scalp and somehow let her see normally but also move her vision around in space without moving her body. We were setting it up for me to try when I woke.
Then last night I dreamt that the same girl was a fellow migraineur. Then she got cardiogenic shock from a brain stem stroke which had her pupils rapidly changing in size (small to big to small to big &c) and her eyes rolling. Ambos arrived while I was telling other ppl there to gather equipment such as an AED.
lights pipe
OCDC said:
PWM, get your pipe ready.The night before last I dreamt that a girl from primary school had been in a car accident and had gone completely blind. TAC rehab had funded a device for her which had a net of electrodes that went on the scalp and somehow let her see normally but also move her vision around in space without moving her body. We were setting it up for me to try when I woke.
Then last night I dreamt that the same girl was a fellow migraineur. Then she got cardiogenic shock from a brain stem stroke which had her pupils rapidly changing in size (small to big to small to big &c) and her eyes rolling. Ambos arrived while I was telling other ppl there to gather equipment such as an AED.
I hope she fully recovers tonight.
That’s the Washington Post cryptic done in double quick time (it was particularly easy today). Now back on with hausarbeit.

Peak Warming Man said:
OCDC said:
PWM, get your pipe ready.
The night before last I dreamt that a girl from primary school had been in a car accident and had gone completely blind. TAC rehab had funded a device for her which had a net of electrodes that went on the scalp and somehow let her see normally but also move her vision around in space without moving her body. We were setting it up for me to try when I woke.
Then last night I dreamt that the same girl was a fellow migraineur. Then she got cardiogenic shock from a brain stem stroke which had her pupils rapidly changing in size (small to big to small to big &c) and her eyes rolling. Ambos arrived while I was telling other ppl there to gather equipment such as an AED.
lights pipe
we knew it we blame

roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt that I’d rewritten a silly song I wrote in the 90’s called Who Broke my Barbie Bus to make it copyright free, as Who Broke my Bardy Bugs, bardy bugs being ornamental insects having the faces of William Shakespeare.I surmised that with the right promotion it could be a hit song AND a new collectable craze.
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugsWhat kind of person would do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?
I ask you
How in their heart could they do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Bardi grub:
They have a nutty flavur.
So I understand. I’ve not tried them.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt that I’d rewritten a silly song I wrote in the 90’s called Who Broke my Barbie Bus to make it copyright free, as Who Broke my Bardy Bugs, bardy bugs being ornamental insects having the faces of William Shakespeare.I surmised that with the right promotion it could be a hit song AND a new collectable craze.
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugsWhat kind of person would do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?
I ask you
How in their heart could they do such a thing
To break a buddy’s bardy bugs?Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Who broke, my bardy bugs
Bardi grub:
That’s a surprisingly close match.
Aussie version.
Good morning
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:Bardi grub:
That’s a surprisingly close match.
Witchetty grub?
Bardi grub. Unsure whether they are the same type of grub.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Bardi grub:
They have a nutty flavur.
So I understand. I’ve not tried them.
They look like a decent source of protein
I posted on here ages ago about eating crickets
I even ordered some
They were disappointing as they were so little they just tasted dry, no meat at all
Cymek said:
Good morning
Greetings
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:They have a nutty flavur.
So I understand. I’ve not tried them.
They look like a decent source of protein
I posted on here ages ago about eating crickets
I even ordered some
They were disappointing as they were so little they just tasted dry, no meat at all
Bummer.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:That’s a surprisingly close match.
Witchetty grub?
Bardi grub. Unsure whether they are the same type of grub.
They are both found under trees.
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:They have a nutty flavur.
So I understand. I’ve not tried them.
They look like a decent source of protein
I posted on here ages ago about eating crickets
I even ordered some
They were disappointing as they were so little they just tasted dry, no meat at all
You have to have them fresh from the ground.
Not only did facebook scrape images of members with no opt out option, they also scraped all the photos upploaded by somebody who knew someone who wasn’t even a member of facebook as well. I just realised that my sister posted photos of me ages ago.
roughbarked said:
Not only did facebook scrape images of members with no opt out option, they also scraped all the photos upploaded by somebody who knew someone who wasn’t even a member of facebook as well. I just realised that my sister posted photos of me ages ago.
well, that’s it… the whole damn system will need to be brought down
Sandersons heh.
I should checknout Captain Scarlet one day.
Anyway I need to rearrange some furniture so Mother can sleep in a nice bed next week, so I might do it today so I don’t end up doing everything on Monday.
1) while Sister is looking for a house I have some excess furniture here
2) Mother is having a procedure under GA next week so I get to baby-sit her
OCDC said:
PWM, get your pipe ready.The night before last I dreamt that a girl from primary school had been in a car accident and had gone completely blind. TAC rehab had funded a device for her which had a net of electrodes that went on the scalp and somehow let her see normally but also move her vision around in space without moving her body. We were setting it up for me to try when I woke.
Then last night I dreamt that the same girl was a fellow migraineur. Then she got cardiogenic shock from a brain stem stroke which had her pupils rapidly changing in size (small to big to small to big &c) and her eyes rolling. Ambos arrived while I was telling other ppl there to gather equipment such as an AED.
Specific
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:Bardi grub:
That’s a surprisingly close match.
Aussie version.
Is a bardy grub the same as a witchetty grub? Looks similar. I’ve eaten witchetty… pretty mild taste.
dv said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:That’s a surprisingly close match.
Aussie version.
Is a bardy grub the same as a witchetty grub? Looks similar. I’ve eaten witchetty… pretty mild taste.
OCDC said:
ruby said:SCIENCE said:Nicely done SCIENCE.
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All of these.
I didn’t take part in this conversation yesterday, because I realised that I couldn’t make a contribution, because, well, basically I knew nothing. Mrs V and I had never talked about anything like this, and now I know why. Mrs V and I had the conversation this morning. She daily takes long walks by herself, often unaccompanied. She has only felt scared in public twice in her life. Both were overseas, travelling by herself.
The first one was when she accepted an offered lift at night to a Youth Hostel in Switzerland and thought it might have been a stupid thing to do.
The second time was when she mislaid herself in a seedy, boarded-up neighbourhood in New York.
I know that I have been scared in public many more times than this, and (I think) understandably so. I was bullied and bashed (quite a lot) at school and have been bashed on the streets and in trains in Sydney.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Michael V said:Aussie version.
Is a bardy grub the same as a witchetty grub? Looks similar. I’ve eaten witchetty… pretty mild taste.
https://www.sail-world.com/Australia/Do-you-know-grubs/-100379
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
ruby said:Nicely done SCIENCE.
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All of these.
I didn’t take part in this conversation yesterday, because I realised that I couldn’t make a contribution, because, well, basically I knew nothing. Mrs V and I had never talked about anything like this, and now I know why. Mrs V and I had the conversation this morning. She daily takes long walks by herself, often unaccompanied. She has only felt scared in public twice in her life. Both were overseas, travelling by herself.
The first one was when she accepted an offered lift at night to a Youth Hostel in Switzerland and thought it might have been a stupid thing to do.
The second time was when she mislaid herself in a seedy, boarded-up neighbourhood in New York.
I know that I have been scared in public many more times than this, and (I think) understandably so. I was bullied and bashed (quite a lot) at school and have been bashed on the streets and in trains in Sydney.
I was up at the hospital one day when a girl who had been grabbed from the side ofthe road while jogging, pulled into a car and raped. Then dumped on the side of the road. It horrified me because I see lots of girls jogging and they may all be taking the same risk.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
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All of these.
I didn’t take part in this conversation yesterday, because I realised that I couldn’t make a contribution, because, well, basically I knew nothing. Mrs V and I had never talked about anything like this, and now I know why. Mrs V and I had the conversation this morning. She daily takes long walks by herself, often unaccompanied. She has only felt scared in public twice in her life. Both were overseas, travelling by herself.
The first one was when she accepted an offered lift at night to a Youth Hostel in Switzerland and thought it might have been a stupid thing to do.
The second time was when she mislaid herself in a seedy, boarded-up neighbourhood in New York.
I know that I have been scared in public many more times than this, and (I think) understandably so. I was bullied and bashed (quite a lot) at school and have been bashed on the streets and in trains in Sydney.
I was up at the hospital one day when a girl who had been grabbed from the side ofthe road while jogging, pulled into a car and raped. Then dumped on the side of the road. It horrified me because I see lots of girls jogging and they may all be taking the same risk.
Unfortunately it seems woman needs to be mindful of lots of situations men wouldn’t even consider.
Risk minimisation and all that, it ain’t fair but neither is the world we live in
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
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All of these.
I didn’t take part in this conversation yesterday, because I realised that I couldn’t make a contribution, because, well, basically I knew nothing. Mrs V and I had never talked about anything like this, and now I know why. Mrs V and I had the conversation this morning. She daily takes long walks by herself, often unaccompanied. She has only felt scared in public twice in her life. Both were overseas, travelling by herself.
The first one was when she accepted an offered lift at night to a Youth Hostel in Switzerland and thought it might have been a stupid thing to do.
The second time was when she mislaid herself in a seedy, boarded-up neighbourhood in New York.
I know that I have been scared in public many more times than this, and (I think) understandably so. I was bullied and bashed (quite a lot) at school and have been bashed on the streets and in trains in Sydney.
I was up at the hospital one day when a girl who had been grabbed from the side ofthe road while jogging, pulled into a car and raped. Then dumped on the side of the road. It horrified me because I see lots of girls jogging and they may all be taking the same risk.
this last statement makes me angry, but instead of just throwing at you a barrage of angry words, I’m going to use this as a teaching moment.
Saying “they may be all taking the same risk” is accusatory to victims.. going jogging is not a risk. Being pulled into a car and raped is not based on the going jogging, it is due to the negative behaviours of the offenders. Full stop.
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:I didn’t take part in this conversation yesterday, because I realised that I couldn’t make a contribution, because, well, basically I knew nothing. Mrs V and I had never talked about anything like this, and now I know why. Mrs V and I had the conversation this morning. She daily takes long walks by herself, often unaccompanied. She has only felt scared in public twice in her life. Both were overseas, travelling by herself.
The first one was when she accepted an offered lift at night to a Youth Hostel in Switzerland and thought it might have been a stupid thing to do.
The second time was when she mislaid herself in a seedy, boarded-up neighbourhood in New York.
I know that I have been scared in public many more times than this, and (I think) understandably so. I was bullied and bashed (quite a lot) at school and have been bashed on the streets and in trains in Sydney.
I was up at the hospital one day when a girl who had been grabbed from the side ofthe road while jogging, pulled into a car and raped. Then dumped on the side of the road. It horrified me because I see lots of girls jogging and they may all be taking the same risk.
Unfortunately it seems woman needs to be mindful of lots of situations men wouldn’t even consider.
Risk minimisation and all that, it ain’t fair but neither is the world we live in
wow.. just wow.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:I didn’t take part in this conversation yesterday, because I realised that I couldn’t make a contribution, because, well, basically I knew nothing. Mrs V and I had never talked about anything like this, and now I know why. Mrs V and I had the conversation this morning. She daily takes long walks by herself, often unaccompanied. She has only felt scared in public twice in her life. Both were overseas, travelling by herself.
The first one was when she accepted an offered lift at night to a Youth Hostel in Switzerland and thought it might have been a stupid thing to do.
The second time was when she mislaid herself in a seedy, boarded-up neighbourhood in New York.
I know that I have been scared in public many more times than this, and (I think) understandably so. I was bullied and bashed (quite a lot) at school and have been bashed on the streets and in trains in Sydney.
I was up at the hospital one day when a girl who had been grabbed from the side ofthe road while jogging, pulled into a car and raped. Then dumped on the side of the road. It horrified me because I see lots of girls jogging and they may all be taking the same risk.
this last statement makes me angry, but instead of just throwing at you a barrage of angry words, I’m going to use this as a teaching moment.
Saying “they may be all taking the same risk” is accusatory to victims.. going jogging is not a risk. Being pulled into a car and raped is not based on the going jogging, it is due to the negative behaviours of the offenders. Full stop.
Yeah I understand that.
I could also say that of hundreds of girls jogging it was only one carload of men.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:I was up at the hospital one day when a girl who had been grabbed from the side ofthe road while jogging, pulled into a car and raped. Then dumped on the side of the road. It horrified me because I see lots of girls jogging and they may all be taking the same risk.
this last statement makes me angry, but instead of just throwing at you a barrage of angry words, I’m going to use this as a teaching moment.
Saying “they may be all taking the same risk” is accusatory to victims.. going jogging is not a risk. Being pulled into a car and raped is not based on the going jogging, it is due to the negative behaviours of the offenders. Full stop.
Yeah I understand that.
I could also say that of hundreds of girls jogging it was only one carload of men.
or you could say that the problem is with the people who are perpetrating the violent crime. The problem is with the people who do not call out negative behaviours and attitudes. The problem is with a patriarchal society that still, despite all the evidence, thinks that the problem is with the victims.
or you could say nothing at all, since that would be better than saying that someone who is going for a jog is putting themselves at risk of rape.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:Is a bardy grub the same as a witchetty grub? Looks similar. I’ve eaten witchetty… pretty mild taste.
https://www.sail-world.com/Australia/Do-you-know-grubs/-100379
The Witchetty is the Bardi?
• Witjuti grubs are also known as Witchetty grubs – or sometimes called “Bardi Grubs”
• The term Witchetty grub is used for large white larvae of moths that chew through tree trunks
and roots.
• The most common type of witchetty grub is the larvae of the Cossid Moth.
• Witchetty grubs are part of the traditional diet of indigenous Australians.
• Witchetty grubs are eaten either raw or cooked and are very high in protein and have a nutty
flavour.
• The word ‘witchetty grub’ comes from the indigenous Australian language, Adnyamathanha, from
the words ‘wityu‘ meaning hooked stick and ‘vartus‘ meaning grub.
• The witchetty bush (Acacia kempeanas) is the main food of certain witchetty grubs.
• Witchetty grubs live in burrows that they create, up to 60 cm (23 inches) underground.
• Witchetty grub moths have a wingspan of up to 16cm (6 inches) and don’t eat, but instead use
stored energy from the grub form.
The distinction between Bardi and Witjuti
grubs is blurred. Fishermen call them Bardi
grubs as a general term for grubs collected
and used as fishing bait. Bardi grubs are bee-
tle larvae while Witjuti grubs are moth lar-
vae. Bardis are normally in trunks, while
Witjutis can be both in trunks or underground
(in roots)
Arts said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:I was up at the hospital one day when a girl who had been grabbed from the side ofthe road while jogging, pulled into a car and raped. Then dumped on the side of the road. It horrified me because I see lots of girls jogging and they may all be taking the same risk.
Unfortunately it seems woman needs to be mindful of lots of situations men wouldn’t even consider.
Risk minimisation and all that, it ain’t fair but neither is the world we live in
wow.. just wow.
You don’t agree ?
It isn’t right that is for sure
Cymek said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:Unfortunately it seems woman needs to be mindful of lots of situations men wouldn’t even consider.
Risk minimisation and all that, it ain’t fair but neither is the world we live in
wow.. just wow.
You don’t agree ?
It isn’t right that is for sure
I’m not blaming the victims
Unfortunately perhaps until men grow up some sort of shitty harm minimisation might be required.
Cymek said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:wow.. just wow.
You don’t agree ?
It isn’t right that is for sure
I’m not blaming the victims
Unfortunately perhaps until men grow up some sort of shitty harm minimisation might be required.
Something that was implemented in WA was post sentence supervision orders.
For example a male sex offender whose jailed might decide to not apply for parole and completes his sentence and goes on his way.
He’s done his time and no one is keeping an eye on him
However these PSSO circumvent fix that problem and he can be put on one without any choice.
He is then supervised for 6 months to two years even though he’s completed his sentence.
Cymek said:
Cymek said:
Cymek said:You don’t agree ?
It isn’t right that is for sure
I’m not blaming the victims
Unfortunately perhaps until men grow up some sort of shitty harm minimisation might be required.
Something that was implemented in WA was post sentence supervision orders.
For example a male sex offender whose jailed might decide to not apply for parole and completes his sentence and goes on his way.
He’s done his time and no one is keeping an eye on him
However these PSSO circumvent fix that problem and he can be put on one without any choice.
He is then supervised for 6 months to two years even though he’s completed his sentence.
So many reoffend.
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
Cymek said:I’m not blaming the victims
Unfortunately perhaps until men grow up some sort of shitty harm minimisation might be required.
Something that was implemented in WA was post sentence supervision orders.
For example a male sex offender whose jailed might decide to not apply for parole and completes his sentence and goes on his way.
He’s done his time and no one is keeping an eye on him
However these PSSO circumvent fix that problem and he can be put on one without any choice.
He is then supervised for 6 months to two years even though he’s completed his sentence.
So many reoffend.
Yes.
I really aren’t victim blaming
We live in an unfair, unequal society and some men are such disgusting human beings that everyone has to be aware of behaviours to protect themselves.
Its wrong that is for sure.
Clarkson man charged over Western Power transmission tower collapse in Pinjar, Perth
Prelude to Chinese invasion, take out infrastructure to hinder them
Good news, Mr Tunks will be here tomorrow to attend to the garden.
Now I’d better get on with the hoovering.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-11/powering-home-with-electronic-vehicle-ev-storms-power-outage/104314934
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-11/powering-home-with-electronic-vehicle-ev-storms-power-outage/104314934
Yes it does look good.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-11/powering-home-with-electronic-vehicle-ev-storms-power-outage/104314934
Yes it does look good.
Bubblecar said:
Good news, Mr Tunks will be here tomorrow to attend to the garden.Now I’d better get on with the hoovering.
You’ll be on first name basis in no time.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-11/powering-home-with-electronic-vehicle-ev-storms-power-outage/104314934
Yes it does look good.
I’ll stick with my generator thanks.
Yes. Because it is already set up to popwer everything. ;)

roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Yes it does look good.
I’ll stick with my generator thanks.Yes. Because it is already set up to popwer everything. ;)
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:I’ll stick with my generator thanks.
Yes. Because it is already set up to popwer everything. ;)
Yes and because it’s quick and easy to refuel.
Works on cloudy days.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
What is the difference between fake and deepfake?
That’s deep, man.
They haven’t got the results of the debate up yet but I’d like to know what this blokes star sign is before I take any notice of him.

Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
What is the difference between fake and deepfake?
Fake is general, deepfake is more specific.
Deepfake is short for “deep learning fake”. Deep learning is a type of machine learning, a method used to train AI’s. A deepfake is a fake generated by one of these so-trained AI’s.
Peak Warming Man said:
They haven’t got the results of the debate up yet but I’d like to know what this blokes star sign is before I take any notice of him.
Spiritual is imaginary so I would take it from there.
esselte said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
What is the difference between fake and deepfake?Fake is general, deepfake is more specific.
Deepfake is short for “deep learning fake”. Deep learning is a type of machine learning, a method used to train AI’s. A deepfake is a fake generated by one of these so-trained AI’s.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:I’ll stick with my generator thanks.
Yes. Because it is already set up to popwer everything. ;)
Yes and because it’s quick and easy to refuel.
If I had one, it’d be in the dam by now, I assure you.
I’m not going out stumbling around in the dark, when the power goes off, only to find the fucking thing won’t start.
I’d rather sit in the dark and play with meself.
Gimme solar panels and a battery. That way, the panels are used most of the time, getting a return on investment, unlike a generator. And when the power goes off, you don’t even know about it.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
What is the difference between fake and deepfake?
Same as computer program, app, smart app and AI. Absolutely nothing.
Peak Warming Man said:
They haven’t got the results of the debate up yet but I’d like to know what this blokes star sign is before I take any notice of him.
I see Sky is still reality-based
Tamb said:
esselte said:
Tamb said:What is the difference between fake and deepfake?
Fake is general, deepfake is more specific.
Deepfake is short for “deep learning fake”. Deep learning is a type of machine learning, a method used to train AI’s. A deepfake is a fake generated by one of these so-trained AI’s.
Thanks.
ditto.
Woodie said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Yes. Because it is already set up to popwer everything. ;)
Yes and because it’s quick and easy to refuel.If I had one, it’d be in the dam by now, I assure you.
I’m not going out stumbling around in the dark, when the power goes off, only to find the fucking thing won’t start.
I’d rather sit in the dark and play with meself.
Gimme solar panels and a battery. That way, the panels are used most of the time, getting a return on investment, unlike a generator. And when the power goes off, you don’t even know about it.
You can get ones that automatically switch on when the power goes out.


dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They haven’t got the results of the debate up yet but I’d like to know what this blokes star sign is before I take any notice of him.
I see Sky is still reality-based
I just saw the arse end of at least a 3 metre python slither past the back of the water tank.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
Tamb said:Yes and because it’s quick and easy to refuel.
If I had one, it’d be in the dam by now, I assure you.
I’m not going out stumbling around in the dark, when the power goes off, only to find the fucking thing won’t start.
I’d rather sit in the dark and play with meself.
Gimme solar panels and a battery. That way, the panels are used most of the time, getting a return on investment, unlike a generator. And when the power goes off, you don’t even know about it.
You can get ones that automatically switch on when the power goes out.
Woodie said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Yes. Because it is already set up to popwer everything. ;)
Yes and because it’s quick and easy to refuel.If I had one, it’d be in the dam by now, I assure you.
I’m not going out stumbling around in the dark, when the power goes off, only to find the fucking thing won’t start.
I’d rather sit in the dark and play with meself.
Gimme solar panels and a battery. That way, the panels are used most of the time, getting a return on investment, unlike a generator. And when the power goes off, you don’t even know about it.
They have portable light sources for times like that but finding the matches to light it can be a bugger.
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
Tamb said:Yes and because it’s quick and easy to refuel.
If I had one, it’d be in the dam by now, I assure you.
I’m not going out stumbling around in the dark, when the power goes off, only to find the fucking thing won’t start.
I’d rather sit in the dark and play with meself.
Gimme solar panels and a battery. That way, the panels are used most of the time, getting a return on investment, unlike a generator. And when the power goes off, you don’t even know about it.
They have portable light sources for times like that but finding the matches to light it can be a bugger.

Bubblecar said:
Good news, Mr Tunks will be here tomorrow to attend to the garden.Now I’d better get on with the hoovering.
That’ll do for today. I’ll leave the kitchen and bathroom floors for tomorrow.
Now for a rest, then a shower. Then weather permitting, go and get something for dinner and wine to accompany.
Coles delivery tomorrow.
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
Tamb said:Yes and because it’s quick and easy to refuel.
If I had one, it’d be in the dam by now, I assure you.
I’m not going out stumbling around in the dark, when the power goes off, only to find the fucking thing won’t start.
I’d rather sit in the dark and play with meself.
Gimme solar panels and a battery. That way, the panels are used most of the time, getting a return on investment, unlike a generator. And when the power goes off, you don’t even know about it.
They have portable light sources for times like that but finding the matches to light it can be a bugger.
but but but but but…………….. You’d need a portable light source to find the portable light source in the first place.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:If I had one, it’d be in the dam by now, I assure you.
I’m not going out stumbling around in the dark, when the power goes off, only to find the fucking thing won’t start.
I’d rather sit in the dark and play with meself.
Gimme solar panels and a battery. That way, the panels are used most of the time, getting a return on investment, unlike a generator. And when the power goes off, you don’t even know about it.
They have portable light sources for times like that but finding the matches to light it can be a bugger.
but but but but but…………….. You’d need a portable light source to find the portable light source in the first place.
One of our vollies is at a training course, so far she’s learnt two new words
Storydoing & wokewashing
I have nfi what they mean but it sounds like bullshit bingo.
I’ll find out tomorrow at training.
Kingy said:
One of our vollies is at a training course, so far she’s learnt two new words
Storydoing & wokewashing
I have nfi what they mean but it sounds like bullshit bingo.
I’ll find out tomorrow at training.
Kids these days, shakes head.
Waged and dried my monstrous mane. Well overdue for a trim.
Bubblecar said:
Waged and dried my monstrous mane. Well overdue for a trim.
waged = washed.
Hairdryer has temporarily melted parts of my brain.
Gently raining out there. I’ll give it a chance to stop. Shops are open for hours yet.
Bubblecar said:
Gently raining out there. I’ll give it a chance to stop. Shops are open for hours yet.
If not you can always catch a fish in the river or kill a rabbit.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Gently raining out there. I’ll give it a chance to stop. Shops are open for hours yet.
If not you can always catch a fish in the river or kill a rabbit.
I have 3 x eggs and plenty of veg. But I fancy flesh.
OK I’m off but I’ll take the umber rella.
For more than a century, dams have blocked fish migration on California’s second-largest river.
OA’s Matt Dibble takes us to the removal of the last of four dams on the Klamath River, a major victory for Native Americans who depend on the river.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQwseF8NRE8
good.
Now that Kate has finished chemotherapy it’s time she got off her arse and went back to work to pay back all that largess visited upon her.
dv, I assume your brother’s funeral has occurred. I hope good memories were shared.
BACK with a chunky scotch fillet and chips.
Did rain on the way home but the umbrella fulfilled its intended task.
Bubblecar said:
BACK with a chunky scotch fillet and chips.Did rain on the way home but the umbrella fulfilled its intended task.
umbrage.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK with a chunky scotch fillet and chips.Did rain on the way home but the umbrella fulfilled its intended task.
umbrage.
Well it didn’t audibly grumble :)
Cymek said:
Clarkson man charged over Western Power transmission tower collapse in Pinjar, Perth
Prelude to Chinese invasion, take out infrastructure to hinder them
wait you mean all these conspiracy theories truths are planted by CHINA you mean wait
the common people just dropped in a bunch more firewood.
sarahs mum said:
the common people just dropped in a bunch more firewood.
:)
Hardware and machine buffs of a nostalgic bent should enjoy this 1,058 page illustrated catalogue from 1902, on the internet in its entirety.

OCDC said:
dv, I assume your brother’s funeral has occurred. I hope good memories were shared.
Yes, back in Perth now, it was at least good to catch up with relloes.
dv said:
OCDC said:
dv, I assume your brother’s funeral has occurred. I hope good memories were shared.
Yes, back in Perth now, it was at least good to catch up with relloes.
Oh, that’s good.
sarahs mum said:
the common people just dropped in a bunch more firewood.
Peasants
sarahs mum said:
the common people just dropped in a bunch more firewood.
… ‘Cause she’s living in the love of the common people
dv said:
OCDC said:I know the feeling.dv, I assume your brother’s funeral has occurred. I hope good memories were shared.Yes, back in Perth now, it was at least good to catch up with relloes.
I’ve actually been vaguely productive today. My new plan to do housework when seedy (but not requiring sensory deprivation) is working so far.
OCDC said:
I’ve actually been vaguely productive today. My new plan to do housework when seedy (but not requiring sensory deprivation) is working so far.
That’s good.
Michael V said:
OCDC said:Now we just need to do it on an ongoing basis…I’ve actually been vaguely productive today. My new plan to do housework when seedy (but not requiring sensory deprivation) is working so far.That’s good.
OCDC said:
I’ve actually been vaguely productive today. My new plan to do housework when seedy (but not requiring sensory deprivation) is working so far.
I love humble bragging.
has me a read, and stuff, things, and some reminiscing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67YxbUDTJIY
Backchat with Tim Bowden (6 April 1989) – 1989 Australian TV Program
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Bowden
“Timothy Gibson Bowden AM (2 August 1937 – 1 September 2024) was an Australian author, radio and television broadcaster and producer, and oral historian. He was born in Hobart, Tasmania, and studied at the University of Tasmania, where he graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree.
Bowden’s work included hosting the Australian Broadcasting Corporation program Backchat (1986–1994), producing This Day Tonight during the 1970s, and founding the ABC’s Social History Unit. His other productions include Prisoners of War – Australians Under Nippon and the 24-part series Taim Bilong Masta – The Australian Involvement with Papua New Guinea.
During the 1990s he produced several notable documentaries on Australian research in the Antarctic.
Bowden died on 1 September 2024, at the age of 87..”
Tamb said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They haven’t got the results of the debate up yet but I’d like to know what this blokes star sign is before I take any notice of him.
I see Sky is still reality-based
I know it’s non-pc but he looks like a Galapagos tortoise.
chuckle, good one
“MPs have backed plans to massively scale back winter fuel support for pensioners – despite a significant chunk of the Labour benches refusing to lend their support.
The government faced a considerable rebellion on its controversial plans to means test the benefit, which would mean more than nine million pensioners losing out on between £200 and £300 each year to go towards heating their homes.”
And anyway with global warming they don’t need it.
JudgeMental said:
OCDC said:lolI’ve actually been vaguely productive today. My new plan to do housework when seedy (but not requiring sensory deprivation) is working so far.I love humble bragging.
Gotta take what I can these days.
OCDC said:
:)
Michael V said:OCDC said:Now we just need to do it on an ongoing basis…I’ve actually been vaguely productive today. My new plan to do housework when seedy (but not requiring sensory deprivation) is working so far.That’s good.
dinner will be rhymes with why beg thong boast
I’ve got three large yellow-brown scarab beetles bouncing off the walls of this study and occasionally banging into me and the laptop screen. They are bloody annoying.
Michael V said:
I’ve got three large yellow-brown scarab beetles bouncing off the walls of this study and occasionally banging into me and the laptop screen. They are bloody annoying.

Michael V said:
I’ve got three large yellow-brown scarab beetles bouncing off the walls of this study and occasionally banging into me and the laptop screen. They are bloody annoying.
Do scarab beetles turn into Christmas beetles, ie turn up in there yellow livery.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
I’ve got three large yellow-brown scarab beetles bouncing off the walls of this study and occasionally banging into me and the laptop screen. They are bloody annoying.
Answered in one.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
I’ve got three large yellow-brown scarab beetles bouncing off the walls of this study and occasionally banging into me and the laptop screen. They are bloody annoying.
Ah, i rememberthem.
I remember riding the motorcycle home after dark, with the face visor not yet replaced on the helmet, and a beetle flying at X kmh impacting on my face moving in the opposite direction at 100 kmh.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
I’ve got three large yellow-brown scarab beetles bouncing off the walls of this study and occasionally banging into me and the laptop screen. They are bloody annoying.
Similar but darker. Not as shiny as your regular Christmas beetle, but likely the same genus.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
I’ve got three large yellow-brown scarab beetles bouncing off the walls of this study and occasionally banging into me and the laptop screen. They are bloody annoying.
Ah, i remember them.
I remember riding the motorcycle home after dark, with the face visor not yet replaced on the helmet, and a beetle flying at X km/h impacting on my face moving in the opposite direction at 100 kmh.
Ouch!
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Ah, i remember them.
I remember riding the motorcycle home after dark, with the face visor not yet replaced on the helmet, and a beetle flying at X km/h impacting on my face moving in the opposite direction at 100 kmh.
Ouch!
After two or three such encounters, you get your visor fixed.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
I’ve got three large yellow-brown scarab beetles bouncing off the walls of this study and occasionally banging into me and the laptop screen. They are bloody annoying.
Ah, i rememberthem.
I remember riding the motorcycle home after dark, with the face visor not yet replaced on the helmet, and a beetle flying at X kmh impacting on my face moving in the opposite direction at 100 kmh.
Not many people can boast a beetle-scarred face.
My grandmother had a lapis lazuli scarab set in gold from a famous ancient burial. Given to her by a chap called Carter. It was stolen from her in Melbourne before I was born.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:Ah, i remember them.
I remember riding the motorcycle home after dark, with the face visor not yet replaced on the helmet, and a beetle flying at X km/h impacting on my face moving in the opposite direction at 100 kmh.
Ouch!
After two or three such encounters, you get your visor fixed.
I ran into some bees with my leathers partly unzipped. That was nasty. Really nasty.
Michael V said:
My grandmother had a lapis lazuli scarab set in gold from a famous ancient burial. Given to her by a chap called Carter. It was stolen from her in Melbourne before I was born.
Was, was his first name Howard?
good evening!!
Bubblecar said:
Not many people can boast a beetle-scarred face.
In my twenties, i was playing squash and got a hit on the face with a racquet. Split the skin open on the point of the cheekbone below the eye socket. Needed stitches.
It healed closed with a really cool scar, just like the classic ‘Prussian duelling scar’.
But, it was only temporary, and faded away over the next eighteen months or so.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:Not many people can boast a beetle-scarred face.
In my twenties, i was playing squash and got a hit on the face with a racquet. Split the skin open on the point of the cheekbone below the eye socket. Needed stitches.
It healed closed with a really cool scar, just like the classic ‘Prussian duelling scar’.
But, it was only temporary, and faded away over the next eighteen months or so.
I still have a visible scar on my face..from um.. about 33 years ago ot there abouts
monkey skipper said:
good evening!!
Nods, Monkey.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
My grandmother had a lapis lazuli scarab set in gold from a famous ancient burial. Given to her by a chap called Carter. It was stolen from her in Melbourne before I was born.
Was, was his first name Howard?
Yes.
monkey skipper said:
good evening!!
Bakatya, ms.
:)
Michael V said:
My grandmother had a lapis lazuli scarab set in gold from a famous ancient burial. Given to her by a chap called Carter. It was stolen from her in Melbourne before I was born.
Just as well, or you’d be the one carrying the curse.
Peak Warming Man said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening!!
Nods, Monkey.
hey pwn!
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
My grandmother had a lapis lazuli scarab set in gold from a famous ancient burial. Given to her by a chap called Carter. It was stolen from her in Melbourne before I was born.
Just as well, or you’d be the one carrying the curse.
The curse passed to me – I didn’t inherit the thing.
Michael V said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening!!
Bakatya, ms.
:)
hey mv!
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
My grandmother had a lapis lazuli scarab set in gold from a famous ancient burial. Given to her by a chap called Carter. It was stolen from her in Melbourne before I was born.
Just as well, or you’d be the one carrying the curse.
The curse passed to me – I didn’t inherit the thing.
soooo your health problems and just “natural” are they???
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
My grandmother had a lapis lazuli scarab set in gold from a famous ancient burial. Given to her by a chap called Carter. It was stolen from her in Melbourne before I was born.
Just as well, or you’d be the one carrying the curse.
The curse passed to me – I didn’t inherit the thing.
You shouldget a t-shirt printed:
‘My aunty had the scarab brooch, but all i got was this lousy curse’.
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
Cymek said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked* said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
SCIENCE said:
ruby said:
SCIENCE said:
ruby said:
Michael V said:
ruby said:
A lovely start to my day with a mother and baby whale doing tail slaps, plus a pod of dolphins cruising past. And two of my dawn walking buddies have new puppies, so we get to enjoy roly poly puppy antics.
A mild sunny day ahead here, possible East Coast low for Thursday/Friday….we’ll see
You’ll have to imagine this picture taken with an expensive camera and lens, this doesn’t quite do justice to the whale show
Nice.
:)
I feel pretty lucky.
I had a great conversation with one of the newer walking buddies, about how us women feel always on guard walking by ourselves. She has a German Shepherd, and says she feels quite different about walking when she takes her King Charles Cavalier. We also talked about how hard it makes it for men, though perhaps most men don’t even realise this is going on.
Nicely done SCIENCE.
wasn’t us, it just seemed legit’ enough and worth thinking
All of these.
I didn’t take part in this conversation yesterday, because I realised that I couldn’t make a contribution, because, well, basically I knew nothing. Mrs V and I had never talked about anything like this, and now I know why. Mrs V and I had the conversation this morning. She daily takes long walks by herself, often unaccompanied. She has only felt scared in public twice in her life. Both were overseas, travelling by herself.
The first one was when she accepted an offered lift at night to a Youth Hostel in Switzerland and thought it might have been a stupid thing to do.
The second time was when she mislaid herself in a seedy, boarded-up neighbourhood in New York.
I know that I have been scared in public many more times than this, and (I think) understandably so. I was bullied and bashed (quite a lot) at school and have been bashed on the streets and in trains in Sydney.
I was up at the hospital one day when a girl who had been grabbed from the side ofthe road while jogging, pulled into a car and raped. Then dumped on the side of the road. It horrified me because I see lots of girls jogging and they may all be taking the same risk.
this last statement makes me angry, but instead of just throwing at you a barrage of angry words, I’m going to use this as a teaching moment.
Saying “they may be all taking the same risk” is accusatory to victims.. going jogging is not a risk. Being pulled into a car and raped is not based on the going jogging, it is due to the negative behaviours of the offenders. Full stop.
Yeah I understand that.
I could also say that of hundreds of girls jogging it was only one carload of men.or you could say that the problem is with the people who are perpetrating the violent crime. The problem is with the people who do not call out negative behaviours and attitudes. The problem is with a patriarchal society that still, despite all the evidence, thinks that the problem is with the victims.
or you could say nothing at all, since that would be better than saying that someone who is going for a jog is putting themselves at risk of rape.
I was up at the hospital one day when a girl who had been grabbed from the side ofthe road while jogging, pulled into a car and raped. Then dumped on the side of the road. It horrified me because I see lots of girls jogging and they may all be taking the same risk.
Unfortunately it seems woman needs to be mindful of lots of situations men wouldn’t even consider.
Risk minimisation and all that, it ain’t fair but neither is the world we live in
wow.. just wow.
You don’t agree ?
It isn’t right that is for sure
I’m not blaming the victims
Unfortunately perhaps until men grow up some sort of shitty harm minimisation might be required.
Something that was implemented in WA was post sentence supervision orders.
For example a male sex offender whose jailed might decide to not apply for parole and completes his sentence and goes on his way.
He’s done his time and no one is keeping an eye on him
However these PSSO circumvent fix that problem and he can be put on one without any choice.
He is then supervised for 6 months to two years even though he’s completed his sentence.
So many reoffend.
Yes.
I really aren’t victim blaming
We live in an unfair, unequal society and some men are such disgusting human beings that everyone has to be aware of behaviours to protect themselves.
Its wrong that is for sure.
ah well we suppose the points we would consider agreed upon are that risk is nonzero for males and risk is nonzero for females and risk for females is greater than risk for males
monkey skipper said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Not many people can boast a beetle-scarred face.
In my twenties, i was playing squash and got a hit on the face with a racquet. Split the skin open on the point of the cheekbone below the eye socket. Needed stitches.
It healed closed with a really cool scar, just like the classic ‘Prussian duelling scar’.
But, it was only temporary, and faded away over the next eighteen months or so.
I still have a visible scar on my face..from um.. about 33 years ago ot there abouts
we’re just fkn ugly no matter how yous look at it so all good
So, I visited the animal welfare league today , all of those faces asking me to adopt them was confirmed when I walked past the kennels and then re-entered the kennel to have their barks silenced and all looking my way …could cut the silence with a knife …. I told them they were all lovely and I would have to think about this a bit further as I couldn’t adopt them all.
We did check out a calm and not jumpy adolescent doggie. There was one of the dogs after having their daily exercise run , try and hop into the back seat with my grandson with the handler … reminding the dog this was not to be today…
SCIENCE said:
monkey skipper said:
captain_spalding said:
In my twenties, i was playing squash and got a hit on the face with a racquet. Split the skin open on the point of the cheekbone below the eye socket. Needed stitches.
It healed closed with a really cool scar, just like the classic ‘Prussian duelling scar’.
But, it was only temporary, and faded away over the next eighteen months or so.
I still have a visible scar on my face..from um.. about 33 years ago ot there abouts
we’re just fkn ugly no matter how yous look at it so all good
coughs … speak for yourself there !! :D
Still 2 grandchildren Sarah’s mum?
Still 2 grandchildren on this front…doesn’t look like much will be changing ..anytime soon..with my daughters
monkey skipper said:
Still 2 grandchildren Sarah’s mum?Still 2 grandchildren on this front…doesn’t look like much will be changing ..anytime soon..with my daughters
I do not expect change. both of them are in school now.
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Still 2 grandchildren Sarah’s mum?Still 2 grandchildren on this front…doesn’t look like much will be changing ..anytime soon..with my daughters
I do not expect change. both of them are in school now.
Ah … my grandson is in prep, my granddaughter is 3 years old , still a while before she is off to school as well.
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Still 2 grandchildren Sarah’s mum?Still 2 grandchildren on this front…doesn’t look like much will be changing ..anytime soon..with my daughters
I do not expect change. both of them are in school now.
Ah … my grandson is in prep, my granddaughter is 3 years old , still a while before she is off to school as well.
maddie is in prep. henry is year 2. henry is quickly becoming literate. which is a good thing in Tas.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:Just as well, or you’d be the one carrying the curse.
The curse passed to me – I didn’t inherit the thing.
soooo your health problems and just “natural” are they???
As I said, the curse passed to me…
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:The curse passed to me – I didn’t inherit the thing.
soooo your health problems and just “natural” are they???
As I said, the curse passed to me…
Yes. Well, i can see why you feel that way.
ACT child passes out and is rushed to hospital after allegedly eating cannabis-laced gummies
Child collapsed after eating laced lollies
Warning over ‘reckless’ cannabis products
Published: 14:14 AEST, 11 September 2024 | Updated: 14:15 AEST, 11 September 2024
A child has been rushed to hospital after allegedly eating cannabis ‘gummies’, sparking an urgent warning to parents.
The child collapsed and fell in and out of consciousness before vomiting after allegedly consuming the illicit gummies in the ACT last month.
Police allege the gummies were purchased on social media and last week arrested a man, 24, they alleged sold the drug-laced product.
He has since been charged with drug and vape trafficking.
‘Following analysis of evidence collected, we are aware that the man we allege is responsible for the supply of these gummies had conducted 150 deals between Tuesday and Thursday last week, most of which were to school aged children,’ ACT Inspector Nigel Booth said in a statement.
‘Given the reckless way these gummies are being produced, the potency and ingredients of the gummies could be anything.’
Officers arrested the man, identified as Vietnamese national Phuc Tran by The Canberra Times, in a blue Hyundai Elantra after he was allegedly observed ‘exchanging goods’ in multiple locations across the ACT.
Many of the deals were allegedly made with children wearing school uniforms.
Police have warned drug-laced gummies (above) caused a child to collapse in the ACT
A man believed to have sold the lollies was arrested on Friday after he had allegedly been seen with teenagers at locations across the ACT
Kids in hospital after eating drug-laced lollies
RangerJudy 2h
September 11: Lady was sleeping by the nestlings on the nest, until around 2am she was disturbed by a Flying Fox landing – off as she moved. The eagles were again awake at first light and away, after a duet. Nestlings were moving about, eagles brought leaves and finally an eel meal delivered at 11:11 by Lady – then a long feed until all gone and both ate well. And more when Lady brought a whole fish around 1:30 – both ate well and peacefully. Dad came at 16:25 with a nice bream and fed them both for some time, until Lady took over for the last few beakfuls. They have fed well and peacefully. Then at last light Dad delivered a gull chick, which Lady fed to both again. Both SE33 and SE34 have been flapping those little wings today.
“Enid Blyton (1897-1968) was a beloved British children’s author, best known for her series such as The Famous Five, The Secret Seven and The Faraway Tree.
Her books, characterised by adventure, mystery and strong moral themes, have sold millions of copies worldwide and been translated into numerous languages.
The casual reader may not be aware of just how prolific she was. According to The Enid Blyton Society, she published a staggering 185 novels/novelettes, 292 ‘character’ books (which contained 858 short stories), 1,008 short story series books (containing 8,183 short stories), 283 ‘education’ books (containing 1,287 short stories) and 386 ‘recreation’ books (containing 1,857 short stories).
This is not to mention the hundreds of poems and plays that were also in these volumes.
Precisely how many short stories she wrote is debated. Some stories share a title, and others were used more than once.”
Blimy she was busy.
Peak Warming Man said:
“Enid Blyton (1897-1968) was a beloved British children’s author, best known for her series such as The Famous Five, The Secret Seven and The Faraway Tree.
Her books, characterised by adventure, mystery and strong moral themes, have sold millions of copies worldwide and been translated into numerous languages.
The casual reader may not be aware of just how prolific she was. According to The Enid Blyton Society, she published a staggering 185 novels/novelettes, 292 ‘character’ books (which contained 858 short stories), 1,008 short story series books (containing 8,183 short stories), 283 ‘education’ books (containing 1,287 short stories) and 386 ‘recreation’ books (containing 1,857 short stories).
This is not to mention the hundreds of poems and plays that were also in these volumes.
Precisely how many short stories she wrote is debated. Some stories share a title, and others were used more than once.”Blimy she was busy.
Every day was a writing day. Here she is at the typewriter being interrupted by her daughters.

Peak Warming Man said:
“Enid Blyton (1897-1968) was a beloved British children’s author, best known for her series such as The Famous Five, The Secret Seven and The Faraway Tree.
Her books, characterised by adventure, mystery and strong moral themes, have sold millions of copies worldwide and been translated into numerous languages.
The casual reader may not be aware of just how prolific she was. According to The Enid Blyton Society, she published a staggering 185 novels/novelettes, 292 ‘character’ books (which contained 858 short stories), 1,008 short story series books (containing 8,183 short stories), 283 ‘education’ books (containing 1,287 short stories) and 386 ‘recreation’ books (containing 1,857 short stories).
This is not to mention the hundreds of poems and plays that were also in these volumes.
Precisely how many short stories she wrote is debated. Some stories share a title, and others were used more than once.”Blimy she was busy.
IIRC, she would play tennis in the nude.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Enid Blyton (1897-1968) was a beloved British children’s author, best known for her series such as The Famous Five, The Secret Seven and The Faraway Tree.
Her books, characterised by adventure, mystery and strong moral themes, have sold millions of copies worldwide and been translated into numerous languages.
The casual reader may not be aware of just how prolific she was. According to The Enid Blyton Society, she published a staggering 185 novels/novelettes, 292 ‘character’ books (which contained 858 short stories), 1,008 short story series books (containing 8,183 short stories), 283 ‘education’ books (containing 1,287 short stories) and 386 ‘recreation’ books (containing 1,857 short stories).
This is not to mention the hundreds of poems and plays that were also in these volumes.
Precisely how many short stories she wrote is debated. Some stories share a title, and others were used more than once.”Blimy she was busy.
Every day was a writing day. Here she is at the typewriter being interrupted by her daughters.
The daughters ended up estranged. Gyles Brandeth interviewed them around the turn of the century and found they held very different views of their mother and their childhoods.
>….Imogen says the sisters no longer see one another because ‘I don’t think we have anything in common.’ I imagine somewhere along the line there was also a definite falling out. Even as little girls, the pair seem to have been jealous of one another. Each has vivid tales to tell of slights shown, unfair favours given or withheld, donkeys’ years ago. Imogen says that Gillian had a nicer doll (‘one that could drink and wet itself’) than she had. Gillian says that while she had to wait until she was ten before she could eat with her mother in the evening, Imogen was accorded that privilege (and many others) at an earlier age.
It is impossible to know which of the girls is giving the more accurate account of life with Enid Blyton. Imogen says, ‘There is a popular myth that my mother read frequently to my sister and myself, trying out her stories on us. This is quite untrue.’ Imogen does remember her mother taking her to the dentist, to the library at the back of Boots, to Debenham’s to get her school uniform, but ‘when I needed her she wasn’t there.’ Gillian portrays a working mother with considerable responsibilities who nevertheless made time for her children. ‘I remember when Imogen was sick over her golliwog, mother spent hours cleaning him up with her eau de cologne.’https://www.gylesbrandreth.net/blog/2019/8/25/the-truth-about-enid-blyton
Just got home from work, it’s been a very busy day.
Tomorrow evening we are going to burn off a road reserve that hasn’t seen a fire in 60+ years.
As it turns out, some local landowner idjit has put padlocks on the emergency access ways.
We WILL use boltcutters to remove them. And then set fire to grasstrees in order to reduce the firehazard around their homes, whether they like it or not.
Kingy said:
Just got home from work, it’s been a very busy day.Tomorrow evening we are going to burn off a road reserve that hasn’t seen a fire in 60+ years.
As it turns out, some local landowner idjit has put padlocks on the emergency access ways.
We WILL use boltcutters to remove them. And then set fire to grasstrees in order to reduce the firehazard around their homes, whether they like it or not.
I hope the wind is blowing the right way too.
The headline says extradition but there is precious little in the article text what are we missing ¿
Brisbane mother ‘very angry’ at possible years-long wait for extradition of man who allegedly threw hot coffee on baby
Woman says her spirits are buoyed by messages of support from around the world after attack at Hanlon ParkFollow our Australia news live blog for latest updates
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Australian Associated Press
Wed 11 Sep 2024 14.54 AEST
Messages of support from around the world have inspired the parents of a baby badly burned when a man threw hot coffee on him in a Brisbane park.But the nine-month-old’s mother was “very angry” that she may have to wait years for justice after the alleged attacker fled the country.
The mother said people from across the globe had been “sending their love” after the horrifying attack on her son at Hanlon Park in Stones Corner on 27 August.
She said it had lifted their spirits as their son undergoes more surgery, with weeks of treatment ahead before they know whether he will require skin grafts.
The boy has been visiting hospital every four days to receive fresh dressings for multiple serious burns and has already undergone five surgeries.
“I have had thousands upon thousands of messages from people all across the world getting into contact with me and sending their love, which I am really grateful for,” the mother told KIIS 97.3 radio on Wednesday.
“(It) … has made it a little bit easier … knowing everyone is behind us. I am really grateful.”
Baby with face pixelated lying in bed with toy elephant and bandages visible on chest
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The nine-month-old Brisbane baby who was badly burned by hot coffee. Photograph: Family of the child
Police identified the alleged attacker days after the incident, only to discover he had left the country 12 hours earlier.An international manhunt has been launched after an arrest warrant was issued for the 33-year-old foreign national.
“I think the whole of Australia, especially a lot of mums and people with children, are furious and angry and really want this guy caught,” the mother said.
“I am very angry and saddened that this has happened … and that we have to wait maybe years to get justice.
Police release CCTV footage after hot liquid allegedly poured on baby in Queensland – video
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Police release CCTV footage after hot liquid allegedly poured on baby in Queensland – video
The mother said it was some relief the attack suspect was out of the country after having nightmares about her family being hurt again.But she wants him to return “for justice”.
“We’re going to be living in trauma for a number of years to come,” she said.
The mother said her baby’s face would heal but his neck and chest would require further treatment.
“There will be scarring,” she said.
The baby’s resilience has been another source of strength.
“He is amazing. He is so strong and brave. He is always smiling through it,” the mother said.
“He has been our strength though it all. He keeps us going.”
A GoFundMe account for the baby had raised almost $170,000 by Wednesday.
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
Just got home from work, it’s been a very busy day.Tomorrow evening we are going to burn off a road reserve that hasn’t seen a fire in 60+ years.
As it turns out, some local landowner idjit has put padlocks on the emergency access ways.
We WILL use boltcutters to remove them. And then set fire to grasstrees in order to reduce the firehazard around their homes, whether they like it or not.
I hope the wind is blowing the right way too.
I was trying to post a pic of the new warning system.


Kingy said:
Just got home from work, it’s been a very busy day.Tomorrow evening we are going to burn off a road reserve that hasn’t seen a fire in 60+ years.
As it turns out, some local landowner idjit has put padlocks on the emergency access ways.
We WILL use boltcutters to remove them. And then set fire to grasstrees in order to reduce the firehazard around their homes, whether they like it or not.
I would think forcing access to a property just to reduce a supposed fire hazard when there is no immediate fire danger and then burn off vegetation around their homes without notice, it would be illegal even for the most arrogant of local bushfire brigades. If you did that to my property, I would go out of my way to teach you some respect for the rights of others.

This might seem like an asinine headline but remember there are other Melbournes in the UK, Canada and the US.
PermeateFree said:
Kingy said:
Just got home from work, it’s been a very busy day.Tomorrow evening we are going to burn off a road reserve that hasn’t seen a fire in 60+ years.
As it turns out, some local landowner idjit has put padlocks on the emergency access ways.
We WILL use boltcutters to remove them. And then set fire to grasstrees in order to reduce the firehazard around their homes, whether they like it or not.
I would think forcing access to a property just to reduce a supposed fire hazard when there is no immediate fire danger and then burn off vegetation around their homes without notice, it would be illegal even for the most arrogant of local bushfire brigades. If you did that to my property, I would go out of my way to teach you some respect for the rights of others.
It’s not their property, it’s a road reserve, and they have padlocked the official emergency access to it.
They have been notified of the impending fuel reduction burn of one in four grasstrees.
There are currently 19 humans in orbit, a new record, and 3 of them are at the furthest distance from earth since the Apollo missions.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:Ouch!
After two or three such encounters, you get your visor fixed.
I ran into some bees with my leathers partly unzipped. That was nasty. Really nasty.
I was on the back of a Honda four when the rider had both hands down the back of his shirt doing 80mph around a bend. I luckily didn’t stain my pants but it was a close thing. A bee went down his dhirt collar and stung him.
Morning boomers & bubs. Only 5% chance of rain today which is why Mr Tunks will be here, mowing like a maniac and weeding like a weirdo.
Back to winter with knobs on by the weekend: on Saturday we have a max of 10 and min of -1.
Anyway today I’ll be doing a little more housework & shopping, then awaiting the Coles delivery.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees at the back door, lightly overcast. We are forecast a partly cloudy 15 degrees.
I planned to mow at the reserve today, but it’s rather wet underfoot, so I’ll postpone that until tomorrow morning. Plenty of weeding to be going on with here at home. I could think about starting some tomato seeds in the protected area soon I suppose. And I’ve got a couple of bush plants that need potting.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees at the back door, lightly overcast. We are forecast a partly cloudy 15 degrees.I planned to mow at the reserve today, but it’s rather wet underfoot, so I’ll postpone that until tomorrow morning. Plenty of weeding to be going on with here at home. I could think about starting some tomato seeds in the protected area soon I suppose. And I’ve got a couple of bush plants that need potting.
Planted out eight tomato plants yesterday. Rained a lottle overnight on them.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees at the back door, lightly overcast. We are forecast a partly cloudy 15 degrees.I planned to mow at the reserve today, but it’s rather wet underfoot, so I’ll postpone that until tomorrow morning. Plenty of weeding to be going on with here at home. I could think about starting some tomato seeds in the protected area soon I suppose. And I’ve got a couple of bush plants that need potting.
Planted out eight tomato plants yesterday. Rained a lottle overnight on them.
We are not out of frost risk yet. Tomato plants are available in the shops now though. I’ve previously tried early plantings, taking the risk, but the plants are so slow to grow that I might as well wait until November anyway. The later planting catch up to the early ones with no effort. I think I have managed to overwinter some capsicum plants in a makeshift sort of greenhouse thing (devised from the frame from a small cheap shadehouse, some shadecloth and some window glass) but they won’t go out into the garden for some weeks yet either.
Kingy said:
PermeateFree said:
Kingy said:
Just got home from work, it’s been a very busy day.Tomorrow evening we are going to burn off a road reserve that hasn’t seen a fire in 60+ years.
As it turns out, some local landowner idjit has put padlocks on the emergency access ways.
We WILL use boltcutters to remove them. And then set fire to grasstrees in order to reduce the firehazard around their homes, whether they like it or not.
I would think forcing access to a property just to reduce a supposed fire hazard when there is no immediate fire danger and then burn off vegetation around their homes without notice, it would be illegal even for the most arrogant of local bushfire brigades. If you did that to my property, I would go out of my way to teach you some respect for the rights of others.
It’s not their property, it’s a road reserve, and they have padlocked the official emergency access to it.
They have been notified of the impending fuel reduction burn of one in four grasstrees.
I think i’ve mentioned here before about how a fire zone was operated when my dad was a fireman. Maybe it’s still the same rules.
Once the senior fire officer (e.g. brigade captain) declared it was a fire ground, then he basically owned everything in that area, and everyone in it (including the police) act on his instructions.
He wants the water from your swimming pool? He can just take it.
Your car is in the way? If necessary, he can get the fire engine to just nudge up to it, and push it out of the way.
Kingy said:
PermeateFree said:
Kingy said:
Just got home from work, it’s been a very busy day.Tomorrow evening we are going to burn off a road reserve that hasn’t seen a fire in 60+ years.
As it turns out, some local landowner idjit has put padlocks on the emergency access ways.
We WILL use boltcutters to remove them. And then set fire to grasstrees in order to reduce the firehazard around their homes, whether they like it or not.
I would think forcing access to a property just to reduce a supposed fire hazard when there is no immediate fire danger and then burn off vegetation around their homes without notice, it would be illegal even for the most arrogant of local bushfire brigades. If you did that to my property, I would go out of my way to teach you some respect for the rights of others.
It’s not their property, it’s a road reserve, and they have padlocked the official emergency access to it.
They have been notified of the impending fuel reduction burn of one in four grasstrees.
They should be glad that you’re just cutting off the locks, and not simply bulldozing through the gates.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees at the back door, lightly overcast. We are forecast a partly cloudy 15 degrees.I planned to mow at the reserve today, but it’s rather wet underfoot, so I’ll postpone that until tomorrow morning. Plenty of weeding to be going on with here at home. I could think about starting some tomato seeds in the protected area soon I suppose. And I’ve got a couple of bush plants that need potting.
Planted out eight tomato plants yesterday. Rained a lottle overnight on them.
We are not out of frost risk yet. Tomato plants are available in the shops now though. I’ve previously tried early plantings, taking the risk, but the plants are so slow to grow that I might as well wait until November anyway. The later planting catch up to the early ones with no effort. I think I have managed to overwinter some capsicum plants in a makeshift sort of greenhouse thing (devised from the frame from a small cheap shadehouse, some shadecloth and some window glass) but they won’t go out into the garden for some weeks yet either.
Frosts could still happen here but the risk is worth taking, I can cover the plants if necessary.
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
PermeateFree said:I would think forcing access to a property just to reduce a supposed fire hazard when there is no immediate fire danger and then burn off vegetation around their homes without notice, it would be illegal even for the most arrogant of local bushfire brigades. If you did that to my property, I would go out of my way to teach you some respect for the rights of others.
It’s not their property, it’s a road reserve, and they have padlocked the official emergency access to it.
They have been notified of the impending fuel reduction burn of one in four grasstrees.
They should be glad that you’re just cutting off the locks, and not simply bulldozing through the gates.
The CFA guys cut the chain on our gate and lifted the gate off to get in back in 2005 when we had a fire. Although usually they would just cut the wire if they are in a hurry. They were working slightly less hurriedly at our place to get the grader in to make a break to stop the fire going from our place into the State Forest next door – which is rocky ground and difficult to navigate.
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
PermeateFree said:I would think forcing access to a property just to reduce a supposed fire hazard when there is no immediate fire danger and then burn off vegetation around their homes without notice, it would be illegal even for the most arrogant of local bushfire brigades. If you did that to my property, I would go out of my way to teach you some respect for the rights of others.
It’s not their property, it’s a road reserve, and they have padlocked the official emergency access to it.
They have been notified of the impending fuel reduction burn of one in four grasstrees.
I think i’ve mentioned here before about how a fire zone was operated when my dad was a fireman. Maybe it’s still the same rules.
Once the senior fire officer (e.g. brigade captain) declared it was a fire ground, then he basically owned everything in that area, and everyone in it (including the police) act on his instructions.
He wants the water from your swimming pool? He can just take it.
Your car is in the way? If necessary, he can get the fire engine to just nudge up to it, and push it out of the way.
Is that when there is a fire rather than when no fire is occurring?
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:It’s not their property, it’s a road reserve, and they have padlocked the official emergency access to it.
They have been notified of the impending fuel reduction burn of one in four grasstrees.
I think i’ve mentioned here before about how a fire zone was operated when my dad was a fireman. Maybe it’s still the same rules.
Once the senior fire officer (e.g. brigade captain) declared it was a fire ground, then he basically owned everything in that area, and everyone in it (including the police) act on his instructions.
He wants the water from your swimming pool? He can just take it.
Your car is in the way? If necessary, he can get the fire engine to just nudge up to it, and push it out of the way.
Is that when there is a fire rather than when no fire is occurring?
Well, yes. A fire is often a pre-requisite forthe presence of the fire brigade.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:I think i’ve mentioned here before about how a fire zone was operated when my dad was a fireman. Maybe it’s still the same rules.
Once the senior fire officer (e.g. brigade captain) declared it was a fire ground, then he basically owned everything in that area, and everyone in it (including the police) act on his instructions.
He wants the water from your swimming pool? He can just take it.
Your car is in the way? If necessary, he can get the fire engine to just nudge up to it, and push it out of the way.
Is that when there is a fire rather than when no fire is occurring?
Well, yes. A fire is often a pre-requisite forthe presence of the fire brigade.
In WA there is some contention over the unecessary burning of areas to reduce fire risk.
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
PermeateFree said:I would think forcing access to a property just to reduce a supposed fire hazard when there is no immediate fire danger and then burn off vegetation around their homes without notice, it would be illegal even for the most arrogant of local bushfire brigades. If you did that to my property, I would go out of my way to teach you some respect for the rights of others.
It’s not their property, it’s a road reserve, and they have padlocked the official emergency access to it.
They have been notified of the impending fuel reduction burn of one in four grasstrees.
I think i’ve mentioned here before about how a fire zone was operated when my dad was a fireman. Maybe it’s still the same rules.
Once the senior fire officer (e.g. brigade captain) declared it was a fire ground, then he basically owned everything in that area, and everyone in it (including the police) act on his instructions.
He wants the water from your swimming pool? He can just take it.
Your car is in the way? If necessary, he can get the fire engine to just nudge up to it, and push it out of the way.
Same here.
On Tuesday I was given that authority over the neighbouring town too, as their FCO retired and they don’t have anyone willing to do it. :/
When there is no fire, I’m a nobody which is just how i like it.

Nerdle

Morning pilgrims, another gorgeous day in the pearl of the south specific.
Over.
Had eggs &c for brekkie. Nearly out of cholula so I’ll rectify that soon. Chilblains are fecking itchy. Last September in Wod there was a 31° day. Max of 11° for me on Saturday…
Forecast for the rest of Thursday
Summary
Max 21
Shower or two.
Chance of any rain: 70%
Cloudy. High chance of showers, becoming less likely this afternoon. The chance of a thunderstorm during the morning and afternoon. Winds southwesterly 15 to 20 km/h tending southerly 15 to 25 km/h in the middle of the day then becoming light in the evening.
Fire Danger – No Rating
Sun protection recommended from 9:50 am to 2:30 pm, UV Index predicted to reach 5
Wild Poliovirus in 2024 (2023)*
Global Total: 33 (7)
Circulating Vaccine Derived Poliovirus in 2024 (2023)*
Global Total: 146 (232)
*Data as of 27 August 2024. Numbers in brackets represent data at this time in 2023.
Hey OCDC are you still following this chat?
BACK from the shops. No sign of Mr Tunks yet.
Finishing the hausarbeit shortly but first, time for a cup of tea and 2 x biscuits.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Enid Blyton (1897-1968) was a beloved British children’s author, best known for her series such as The Famous Five, The Secret Seven and The Faraway Tree.
Her books, characterised by adventure, mystery and strong moral themes, have sold millions of copies worldwide and been translated into numerous languages.
The casual reader may not be aware of just how prolific she was. According to The Enid Blyton Society, she published a staggering 185 novels/novelettes, 292 ‘character’ books (which contained 858 short stories), 1,008 short story series books (containing 8,183 short stories), 283 ‘education’ books (containing 1,287 short stories) and 386 ‘recreation’ books (containing 1,857 short stories).
This is not to mention the hundreds of poems and plays that were also in these volumes.
Precisely how many short stories she wrote is debated. Some stories share a title, and others were used more than once.”Blimy she was busy.
Every day was a writing day. Here she is at the typewriter being interrupted by her daughters.
The daughters ended up estranged. Gyles Brandeth interviewed them around the turn of the century and found they held very different views of their mother and their childhoods.
>….Imogen says the sisters no longer see one another because ‘I don’t think we have anything in common.’ I imagine somewhere along the line there was also a definite falling out. Even as little girls, the pair seem to have been jealous of one another. Each has vivid tales to tell of slights shown, unfair favours given or withheld, donkeys’ years ago. Imogen says that Gillian had a nicer doll (‘one that could drink and wet itself’) than she had. Gillian says that while she had to wait until she was ten before she could eat with her mother in the evening, Imogen was accorded that privilege (and many others) at an earlier age.
It is impossible to know which of the girls is giving the more accurate account of life with Enid Blyton. Imogen says, ‘There is a popular myth that my mother read frequently to my sister and myself, trying out her stories on us. This is quite untrue.’ Imogen does remember her mother taking her to the dentist, to the library at the back of Boots, to Debenham’s to get her school uniform, but ‘when I needed her she wasn’t there.’ Gillian portrays a working mother with considerable responsibilities who nevertheless made time for her children. ‘I remember when Imogen was sick over her golliwog, mother spent hours cleaning him up with her eau de cologne.’https://www.gylesbrandreth.net/blog/2019/8/25/the-truth-about-enid-blyton
daughter use to love me reading magic faraway tree, still mentions it occasionally, I remember reading and falling asleep, wake up and daughter still be busy doing whatever, cutting stuff out and whatever, drawing, little arty girl
reckon daughter bumped into one of her junior primary teachers some stage later in life, teacher told her she remembers daughter when little telling her wanted be a tattooist
there ya go
got to book the d-max in because of a safety issue recall. passenger ejection seat has a fault and can activate without warning. of course “they” say that a fuel delivery hose may be installed incorrectly.
JudgeMental said:
got to book the d-max in because of a safety issue recall. passenger ejection seat has a fault and can activate without warning. of course “they” say that a fuel delivery hose may be installed incorrectly.
that’s just BIG CARMA trying to scare you into inconvenience.
OCDC said:
Wild Poliovirus in 2024 (2023)*
Global Total: 33 (7)
Circulating Vaccine Derived Poliovirus in 2024 (2023)*
Global Total: 146 (232) *Data as of 27 August 2024. Numbers in brackets represent data at this time in 2023.
Excellent, we’ll have rich hybrid herd immunity soon.
Now Do SARACAIDS-CoV¡
JudgeMental said:
got to book the d-max in because of a safety issue recall. passenger ejection seat has a fault and can activate without warning. of course “they” say that a fuel delivery hose may be installed incorrectly.
The first Russian shipboard fighter plane, the Yakolev Yak-38 ‘Forger’

(which was a piece of shit, but it was their first go at it), had an automatic ejection seat. If one of the takeoff engines failed or the aircraft rolled past 60 degrees during takeoff, the pilot was automatically ejected from the aircraft. A lot of Yak-38s were lost this way.
Now, in the days of self-driving cars and sensors on cars, and AI, and what-all, how about having ejection seats in cars, so that when the vehicles detect a collision imminent, you’re automatically ejected from the car?
Not much fun in tunnels, or under bridges etc., but could be a lifesaver at other times.
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:
got to book the d-max in because of a safety issue recall. passenger ejection seat has a fault and can activate without warning. of course “they” say that a fuel delivery hose may be installed incorrectly.
The first Russian shipboard fighter plane, the Yakolev Yak-38 ‘Forger’
(which was a piece of shit, but it was their first go at it), had an automatic ejection seat. If one of the takeoff engines failed or the aircraft rolled past 60 degrees during takeoff, the pilot was automatically ejected from the aircraft. A lot of Yak-38s were lost this way.
Now, in the days of self-driving cars and sensors on cars, and AI, and what-all, how about having ejection seats in cars, so that when the vehicles detect a collision imminent, you’re automatically ejected from the car?
Not much fun in tunnels, or under bridges etc., but could be a lifesaver at other times.
until the person lands and gets cleaned up by another car.. or lands on the roof of a building, or on a spiky fence, or on one of the other many hazards that are on the roads that are not in the air.
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:
got to book the d-max in because of a safety issue recall. passenger ejection seat has a fault and can activate without warning. of course “they” say that a fuel delivery hose may be installed incorrectly.
The first Russian shipboard fighter plane, the Yakolev Yak-38 ‘Forger’
(which was a piece of shit, but it was their first go at it), had an automatic ejection seat. If one of the takeoff engines failed or the aircraft rolled past 60 degrees during takeoff, the pilot was automatically ejected from the aircraft. A lot of Yak-38s were lost this way.
Now, in the days of self-driving cars and sensors on cars, and AI, and what-all, how about having ejection seats in cars, so that when the vehicles detect a collision imminent, you’re automatically ejected from the car?
Not much fun in tunnels, or under bridges etc., but could be a lifesaver at other times.
until the person lands and gets cleaned up by another car.. or lands on the roof of a building, or on a spiky fence, or on one of the other many hazards that are on the roads that are not in the air.
But, of course, a parachute is deployed, so that you have time during your descent to ponder on just how all this will turn out.
Mr Tunks is here and hard at work.
Bubblecar said:
Mr Tunks is here and hard at work.
Mine is getting a bit long, I’ll get PWM to do it.


This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this: that calorie (and presumbly also kJ) counting leads to eating disorders.
Is it generally true? Calorific accounting was a key aspect of my journey from obesity but I might be unusual.
dv said:
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This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this: that calorie (and presumbly also kJ) counting leads to eating disorders.
Is it generally true? Calorific accounting was a key aspect of my journey from obesity but I might be unusual.
“might” ?
dv said:
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This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this: that calorie (and presumbly also kJ) counting leads to eating disorders.
Is it generally true? Calorific accounting was a key aspect of my journey from obesity but I might be unusual.
It’s not generally true, no. Calorie counting is a common and sensible way to control your intake, especially when wanting to lose weight.
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
PermeateFree said:I would think forcing access to a property just to reduce a supposed fire hazard when there is no immediate fire danger and then burn off vegetation around their homes without notice, it would be illegal even for the most arrogant of local bushfire brigades. If you did that to my property, I would go out of my way to teach you some respect for the rights of others.
It’s not their property, it’s a road reserve, and they have padlocked the official emergency access to it.
They have been notified of the impending fuel reduction burn of one in four grasstrees.
I think i’ve mentioned here before about how a fire zone was operated when my dad was a fireman. Maybe it’s still the same rules.
Once the senior fire officer (e.g. brigade captain) declared it was a fire ground, then he basically owned everything in that area, and everyone in it (including the police) act on his instructions.
He wants the water from your swimming pool? He can just take it.
Your car is in the way? If necessary, he can get the fire engine to just nudge up to it, and push it out of the way.
That is ONLY if there is a fire. You, including fire brigades cannot just enter someone’s property and do what they like, despite many thinking they can. The locked roadside reserve might be being leased by the landowner and so they have rights too. Native vegetation is the home of many birds and small animals particularly at this time of year, but of course they have no rights at all.
The landowner might be far more aware of the environmental situation than someone who just wants to set fire to things. I have no problems with burning sections of the bush, but I do with petty bureaucrats who think they can do what they like to you and your property. Fire brigades must work within the regulations of the Shire and even their people cannot just barge onto your property without good course and prior notification.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
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This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this: that calorie (and presumbly also kJ) counting leads to eating disorders.
Is it generally true? Calorific accounting was a key aspect of my journey from obesity but I might be unusual.
It’s not generally true, no. Calorie counting is a common and sensible way to control your intake, especially when wanting to lose weight.
I suppose a few might become obsessed
1960 commercial for Tip Top bread
Australian but presented by a woman with a US accent. Someone here may be able to identify her.
associations with…
Calorie counting and fitness tracking technology: Associations with eating disorder symptomatology
Courtney C Simpson 1 , Suzanne E Mazzeo 2
Affiliations expand
PMID: 28214452 DOI: 10.1016/j.eatbeh.2017.02.002
Abstract
The use of online calorie tracking applications and activity monitors is increasing exponentially. Anecdotal reports document the potential for these trackers to trigger, maintain, or exacerbate eating disorder symptomatology. Yet, research has not examined the relation between use of these devices and eating disorder-related attitudes and behaviors. This study explored associations between the use of calorie counting and fitness tracking devices and eating disorder symptomatology. Participants (N=493) were college students who reported their use of tracking technology and completed measures of eating disorder symptomatology. Individuals who reported using calorie trackers manifested higher levels of eating concern and dietary restraint, controlling for BMI. Additionally, fitness tracking was uniquely associated with ED symptomatology after adjusting for gender and bingeing and purging behavior within the past month. Findings highlight associations between use of calorie and fitness trackers and eating disorder symptomatology. Although preliminary, overall results suggest that for some individuals, these devices might do more harm than good.
dv said:
Introducing Dietary Self-Monitoring to Undergraduate Women via a Calorie Counting App Has No Effect on Mental Health or Health Behaviors: Results From a Randomized Controlled Trial
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This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this: that calorie (and presumbly also kJ) counting leads to eating disorders.
Is it generally true? Calorific accounting was a key aspect of my journey from obesity but I might be unusual.
Background: Strong positive relationships between dietary self-monitoring and eating disorder risk are seen in population-based, observational studies. However, current evidence cannot establish causality. Furthermore, little is known about other mental and behavioral health consequences of dietary self-monitoring among college women, a population vulnerable to eating disorders.
Objective: To determine if introducing dietary self-monitoring via a popular smartphone app to undergraduate women impacts eating disorder risk, other aspects of mental health, or health behaviors including dietary intake and physical activity.
Design: Randomized controlled trial.
Participants/setting: Undergraduate women who had not engaged in dietary self-monitoring in the past year and who were at low-risk for an eating disorder participated between May and October 2019 (n = 200).
Intervention: Participants were randomly assigned to engage in dietary self-monitoring via MyFitnessPal for approximately 1 month or to receive no intervention.
Main outcome measures: Self-report data on eating disorder risk, other mental health outcomes, and health behaviors were collected at baseline and post-intervention.
Statistical analyses performed: Linear and logistic regressions were utilized to test hypotheses.
Results: Adherence to the intervention was high, with participants recording their dietary intake via MyFitnessPal on average 89.1% of days between baseline and post-intervention. Assignment to the intervention was not associated with changes in eating disorder risk, anxiety, depressive symptoms, body satisfaction, quality of life, nutritional intake, physical activity, screen time, or other forms of weight-related self-monitoring (all P > .05).
Conclusions: Among dietary self-monitoring naive undergraduate women with low-risk of an eating disorder, dietary self-monitoring via MyFitnessPal for 1 month did not increase eating disorder risk, impact other aspects of mental health, or alter health behaviors including dietary intake. The null results in our study may be due to the selection of a low-risk sample; future research should explore whether there are populations for whom dietary self-monitoring is contraindicated.
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Carb counting for chronic migraine led to caloric restriction for me, and the first 25 kg of weight loss. Since then nausea has led to unintentional weight loss but on days when nausea is mild to moderate I still need to consciously limit carbs. Dietician has suggested I stop tracking but I know that that would lead to excess carbs, as happens during my rare carb benders.
Bubblecar said:
1960 commercial for Tip Top breadAustralian but presented by a woman with a US accent. Someone here may be able to identify her.
…& Graham Kennedy.
dv said:
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This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this: that calorie (and presumbly also kJ) counting leads to eating disorders.
Is it generally true? Calorific accounting was a key aspect of my journey from obesity but I might be unusual.
Obsessing over any number of aspects about food consumption can lead to the development of unhealthy habits.
dv said:
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This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this: that calorie (and presumbly also kJ) counting leads to eating disorders.
Is it generally true? Calorific accounting was a key aspect of my journey from obesity but I might be unusual.
so the answer is yes and no… and probably and probably not. more research needed.
Reading what I can access of those two articles seems to suggest that being instructed to track energy consumption for a short period doesn’t lead to eating disorders, but people with eating disorders are more likely to self-initiate tracking.
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:It’s not their property, it’s a road reserve, and they have padlocked the official emergency access to it.
They have been notified of the impending fuel reduction burn of one in four grasstrees.
I think i’ve mentioned here before about how a fire zone was operated when my dad was a fireman. Maybe it’s still the same rules.
Once the senior fire officer (e.g. brigade captain) declared it was a fire ground, then he basically owned everything in that area, and everyone in it (including the police) act on his instructions.
He wants the water from your swimming pool? He can just take it.
Your car is in the way? If necessary, he can get the fire engine to just nudge up to it, and push it out of the way.
That is ONLY if there is a fire. You, including fire brigades cannot just enter someone’s property and do what they like, despite many thinking they can. The locked roadside reserve might be being leased by the landowner and so they have rights too. Native vegetation is the home of many birds and small animals particularly at this time of year, but of course they have no rights at all.
The landowner might be far more aware of the environmental situation than someone who just wants to set fire to things. I have no problems with burning sections of the bush, but I do with petty bureaucrats who think they can do what they like to you and your property. Fire brigades must work within the regulations of the Shire and even their people cannot just barge onto your property without good course and prior notification.
This hazard reduction burn has been planned for 4 years, all the neighbours have been notified, all the relevant permits have been issued, and it’s under the direction of the city’s mitigation officer.
We are just the brigade that’s been asked to help.
Arts said:
dv said:
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This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this: that calorie (and presumbly also kJ) counting leads to eating disorders.
Is it generally true? Calorific accounting was a key aspect of my journey from obesity but I might be unusual.
so the answer is yes and no… and probably and probably not. more research needed.
The answer is no, it’s not generally true. Anorexic people don’t normally become so by counting calories, and most people who count calories are not anorexic.
dv said:
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This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this: that calorie (and presumbly also kJ) counting leads to eating disorders.
Is it generally true? Calorific accounting was a key aspect of my journey from obesity but I might be unusual.
We do it on the 5/2 diet, and I don’t think it has led to any eating disorders.
Bubblecar said:
1960 commercial for Tip Top breadAustralian but presented by a woman with a US accent. Someone here may be able to identify her.
Evie someone.
Arts said:
associations with…Calorie counting and fitness tracking technology: Associations with eating disorder symptomatology
Courtney C Simpson 1 , Suzanne E Mazzeo 2
Affiliations expand
PMID: 28214452 DOI: 10.1016/j.eatbeh.2017.02.002
AbstractThe use of online calorie tracking applications and activity monitors is increasing exponentially. Anecdotal reports document the potential for these trackers to trigger, maintain, or exacerbate eating disorder symptomatology. Yet, research has not examined the relation between use of these devices and eating disorder-related attitudes and behaviors. This study explored associations between the use of calorie counting and fitness tracking devices and eating disorder symptomatology. Participants (N=493) were college students who reported their use of tracking technology and completed measures of eating disorder symptomatology. Individuals who reported using calorie trackers manifested higher levels of eating concern and dietary restraint, controlling for BMI. Additionally, fitness tracking was uniquely associated with ED symptomatology after adjusting for gender and bingeing and purging behavior within the past month. Findings highlight associations between use of calorie and fitness trackers and eating disorder symptomatology. Although preliminary, overall results suggest that for some individuals, these devices might do more harm than good.
Individuals who reported using calorie trackers manifested higher levels of eating concern and dietary restraint, controlling for BMI.
I mean … well duh.
Isn’t the use of the tracker more likely to be an effect rather than a cause?
Bubblecar said:
1960 commercial for Tip Top breadAustralian but presented by a woman with a US accent. Someone here may be able to identify her.
Not me. We didn’t have TV until 1966.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:dv said:
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This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this: that calorie (and presumbly also kJ) counting leads to eating disorders.
Is it generally true? Calorific accounting was a key aspect of my journey from obesity but I might be unusual.
so the answer is yes and no… and probably and probably not. more research needed.
The answer is no, it’s not generally true. Anorexic people don’t normally become so by counting calories, and most people who count calories are not anorexic.
I’ve only personally known one person (an adolescent boy) that suffered from an eating disorder. He used calorie counting as a means to try and normalize the behavior. It was “see.. I’m being healthy, I’m monitoring and tracking exactly what I’m eating” – notwithstanding that fact that he was living on less then 800 cals per day.
The missus and I are 2 months into a 3 month diet program. At the moment my target is 1800 cals per day, I could see how measuring food and measuring macros could become obsessive for some.
Kingy said:
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:I think i’ve mentioned here before about how a fire zone was operated when my dad was a fireman. Maybe it’s still the same rules.
Once the senior fire officer (e.g. brigade captain) declared it was a fire ground, then he basically owned everything in that area, and everyone in it (including the police) act on his instructions.
He wants the water from your swimming pool? He can just take it.
Your car is in the way? If necessary, he can get the fire engine to just nudge up to it, and push it out of the way.
That is ONLY if there is a fire. You, including fire brigades cannot just enter someone’s property and do what they like, despite many thinking they can. The locked roadside reserve might be being leased by the landowner and so they have rights too. Native vegetation is the home of many birds and small animals particularly at this time of year, but of course they have no rights at all.
The landowner might be far more aware of the environmental situation than someone who just wants to set fire to things. I have no problems with burning sections of the bush, but I do with petty bureaucrats who think they can do what they like to you and your property. Fire brigades must work within the regulations of the Shire and even their people cannot just barge onto your property without good course and prior notification.
This hazard reduction burn has been planned for 4 years, all the neighbours have been notified, all the relevant permits have been issued, and it’s under the direction of the city’s mitigation officer.
We are just the brigade that’s been asked to help.
It is still not a fire in progress and despite the planning and permits there are still legalities required and depending on the background of the roadside reserve, the breaking of padlocks, entering and burning around people’s homes might have serious legal complications.
OCDC said:
dv said:Introducing Dietary Self-Monitoring to Undergraduate Women via a Calorie Counting App Has No Effect on Mental Health or Health Behaviors: Results From a Randomized Controlled Trial
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This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this: that calorie (and presumbly also kJ) counting leads to eating disorders.
Is it generally true? Calorific accounting was a key aspect of my journey from obesity but I might be unusual.
Samantha L Hahn et al. J Acad Nutr Diet. 2021 Dec.Background: Strong positive relationships between dietary self-monitoring and eating disorder risk are seen in population-based, observational studies. However, current evidence cannot establish causality. Furthermore, little is known about other mental and behavioral health consequences of dietary self-monitoring among college women, a population vulnerable to eating disorders.
Objective: To determine if introducing dietary self-monitoring via a popular smartphone app to undergraduate women impacts eating disorder risk, other aspects of mental health, or health behaviors including dietary intake and physical activity.
Design: Randomized controlled trial.
Participants/setting: Undergraduate women who had not engaged in dietary self-monitoring in the past year and who were at low-risk for an eating disorder participated between May and October 2019 (n = 200).
Intervention: Participants were randomly assigned to engage in dietary self-monitoring via MyFitnessPal for approximately 1 month or to receive no intervention.
Main outcome measures: Self-report data on eating disorder risk, other mental health outcomes, and health behaviors were collected at baseline and post-intervention.
Statistical analyses performed: Linear and logistic regressions were utilized to test hypotheses.
Results: Adherence to the intervention was high, with participants recording their dietary intake via MyFitnessPal on average 89.1% of days between baseline and post-intervention. Assignment to the intervention was not associated with changes in eating disorder risk, anxiety, depressive symptoms, body satisfaction, quality of life, nutritional intake, physical activity, screen time, or other forms of weight-related self-monitoring (all P > .05).
Conclusions: Among dietary self-monitoring naive undergraduate women with low-risk of an eating disorder, dietary self-monitoring via MyFitnessPal for 1 month did not increase eating disorder risk, impact other aspects of mental health, or alter health behaviors including dietary intake. The null results in our study may be due to the selection of a low-risk sample; future research should explore whether there are populations for whom dietary self-monitoring is contraindicated.
~~~~
Carb counting for chronic migraine led to caloric restriction for me, and the first 25 kg of weight loss. Since then nausea has led to unintentional weight loss but on days when nausea is mild to moderate I still need to consciously limit carbs. Dietician has suggested I stop tracking but I know that that would lead to excess carbs, as happens during my rare carb benders.
I doubt a one month study is long enough to come to any useful conclusion really.
PermeateFree said:
That is ONLY if there is a fire. You, including fire brigades cannot just enter someone’s property and do what they like, despite many thinking they can. The locked roadside reserve might be being leased by the landowner and so they have rights too. Native vegetation is the home of many birds and small animals particularly at this time of year, but of course they have no rights at all.
Apologies for being pedantic about it, but that’s not really correct.
The WA Bush Fire Act 1954 does provide for authorised persons to ‘just enter someone’s property’ at any time.

That property owners are advised in advance would seem to be required only as a matter of courtesy. It would be equally courteous of property owners to assist with the fire officers’ work by ensuring that they have access at the appropriate time.
OCDC said:
Reading what I can access of those two articles seems to suggest that being instructed to track energy consumption for a short period doesn’t lead to eating disorders, but people with eating disorders are more likely to self-initiate tracking.
They are useful as well to help people realise you can negate exercise calorie usage with one chocolate biscuit
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:dv said:
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This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this: that calorie (and presumbly also kJ) counting leads to eating disorders.
Is it generally true? Calorific accounting was a key aspect of my journey from obesity but I might be unusual.
so the answer is yes and no… and probably and probably not. more research needed.
The answer is no, it’s not generally true. Anorexic people don’t normally become so by counting calories, and most people who count calories are not anorexic.
anorexia is not the only eating disorder…
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:so the answer is yes and no… and probably and probably not. more research needed.
The answer is no, it’s not generally true. Anorexic people don’t normally become so by counting calories, and most people who count calories are not anorexic.
anorexia is not the only eating disorder…
Men and the muscular build
Not just steroids to achieve it but injecting oil into muscles to increase mass (temporarily)
I did weights for many years and whilst I have a ectomorph build I don’t think many of these men with big build did it all naturally.
Anyway I might try to do A Task.
Might get myself a cheap air fryer
Is easier than an oven (not that ovens are hard to use, I remove me head now) and as its just me using is good value.
OCDC said:
Anyway I might try to do A Task.
Nah.
Go to plan B and do B task.
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:That is ONLY if there is a fire. You, including fire brigades cannot just enter someone’s property and do what they like, despite many thinking they can. The locked roadside reserve might be being leased by the landowner and so they have rights too. Native vegetation is the home of many birds and small animals particularly at this time of year, but of course they have no rights at all.
Apologies for being pedantic about it, but that’s not really correct.
The WA Bush Fire Act 1954 does provide for authorised persons to ‘just enter someone’s property’ at any time.
That property owners are advised in advance would seem to be required only as a matter of courtesy. It would be equally courteous of property owners to assist with the fire officers’ work by ensuring that they have access at the appropriate time.
Please note: Entrance was for ONLY to control a fire, or the INSPECTION of fire breaks. It does NOT give permission to anyone to enter someone’s property and light fires for ANY reason. I think your old man would get into a lot of trouble these days and you too if you decided to follow his example.
Michael V said:
OCDC said:Nah, yesterday I started B by way of procrastinating about A, but A is overdue and it is for the kittens’ benefit.Anyway I might try to do A Task.Nah.
Go to plan B and do B task.
OCDC said:
Good-oh.
Michael V said:OCDC said:Nah, yesterday I started B by way of procrastinating about A, but A is overdue and it is for the kittens’ benefit.Anyway I might try to do A Task.Nah.
Go to plan B and do B task.
I love it when a plan comes together.
I read this post from MFW’s. I wonder how this gets out on the airways. did we not have standards for broadcasting at one stage?

MFW
10 September at 13:21 ·
And again, witches, we bring you a transcript of the Kyle and Jackie O show from last week. We know many witches can’t stomach these transcripts but we do ask you to read them and share them, if you can. Because how else will you know how bad they are? How else will people be encouraged to contact the advertisers who are #FundingFilth, if nobody knows what it is?
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Kyle and Jackie O Show, KiiSFM, Wednesday September 4, 2024. All quotes are Kyle unless otherwise stated. Information in brackets is where needed for context. Not all quotes verbatim but close.
6am Segment.
“She’s been arseholed out of her chair for Fung, the diversity hire” (Kyle about one of the censors, a woman of Asian background)
“They’re very worried about the filth in Melbourne, Jackie!” (Kyle about complaints about their content)
“We couldn’t possibly need THREE censors!” (Jackie)
“I don’t mind being fingered up the arse” (KiiSFM employee Peter)
“You prefer to be a top, but you’ll do bottom?” (Kyle to Peter)
“Yeah, Jackie likes that too but she doesn’t yell it from the rooftops” (Kyle about some sexual technique)
“That’s like glory hole stuff, some dirty old grandma’s in there, toothless thing” (Kyle about sex clubs, said with disgust)
“You’re not desirable enough for group gay sex?” (Kyle to Peter)
“Someone dropped a borry in the shower in a gym … we’ve all done a shit in the bath at a party” (Kyle about a media story on someone pooing in a shower at a gym)
“We’ve zoomed in on the poo to identify it, it’s smeared and in the left-hand corner so logically the person pooing is left-handed” (KiisFM employee Bruno)
“Can you identify the race of the person?” (Kyle) … “I zoomed in, looked at colour and consistency, can tell the diet, the person eats a lot of potatoes and rice, I don’t wanna sound racist but it’s an Indian left-handed male” (Bruno)
“To change your poo’s colour you have to eat more than one meal” (maybe Bruno, who now simulates being in the shower and doing the poo then squishing the poo live on air)
“If you’re going to all that effort to shit in the shower, you’ll do it right” (followed by a discussion about how to “wash your crack”)
6.15am Segment: Exclusive Gronk News by KiiSFM employee Alfie
1. Some news about company Gusman e Gomez … “I always assumed they were a gay couple” (Kyle, followed by Kyle doing gross Mexican voices) … “You don’t cut a cancerous mole out only to put it back” (Kyle about KiiSFM employee Pedro)
2. Story about how the ABC held a meeting about Kyle and Jackie O’s program, something to do with “what they can learn from them” … something about Media Watch, David Marr the old host, “don’t even know the new flop” (Kyle about Paul Barry) … “Should I start asking every scientist their favourite sex position?” (Alfie) … “This new manager must know his stuff” (Kyle about Kim Williams, reckons he’s far better than his replacement) … “They’ll have Leigh Sales on there wearing nothing but a pearl necklace” (Kyle about his idea of jazzing up the ABC) … “They’ve got the lowest ratings of everyone, should shake it up a bit, get a refresh” (Kyle about the ABC) … (criticism now of ABC Classic, mocking the presenter) … “The salary difference is quite big as well!” (Kyle about ABC salaries, he never fails to mention his huge remuneration) … “How many we got and why are we paying for it all?” Kyle on how he believes the ABC is useless so why do his taxes pay for it) … “There are no interstate truckies listening to this shit!” (Kyle about ABC Classic radio) … “I’m on the nod here” (Kyle on classical music playing in the studio)
6.40am Segment” Tradie vs. Lady
“Mia, 60kg, favourite sex position pretzel, that’s legs behind the head” … “My husband loves to twist me up like a pretzel” (caller Mia) … ‘We’ve been exploring threesomes lately, the man we contacted turned out to be our 66-year-old neighbour!” (Caller Mia, much guffawing in disgust in studio)
“So your husband agreed to a threesome with 2 blokes and 1 girl?” (Kyle)
“From a threesome expert, they’re not that great, they end up with 2 Brazilian models having a full-blown fight and you’re just left there with a half-deflated dinger … she was angry because I went out of her and finished with the other one … blokes, write that down!” (Kyle)
“Aaron, 90kg, fave sex position is the butcher’s wheelbarrow”
“It’s like doggy style but you hold their arms like a wheelbarrow, then you go to town and butcher the pussy” (caller Aaron)
Questions for the man (meant to be things men wouldn’t know): first one was something about a clay mask: “Lachie, it wouldn’t hurt you to use a mask, your face looks like the bottom of a pizza dish” (Kyle to KiiSFM employee Lachie)
“What do Modi-Bodi sell?” (Jackie) … “Period undies” (caller Aaron) … “He knows his rag news” (Kyle)
“I want my diamonds dug out by (Kyle, huge bleeping here but it was something racist about oppressed diamond slaves) … “Don’t bleep that out, censor, it was a joke!”
Questions for the woman:
1. “What’s the highest score in ten-pin bowling?”
2. Which F1 team does Oscar Piastri drive for?
3. What does WC stand for in a plumbing sense?”
(Questions meant to be things women wouldn’t know.)
(After naming the F1 team McLaren, Kyle has a rant on how McLaren cars are hard to drive, not nice, never get out of second gear, speed limits are stupid and so on and so on, as per usual)
Tie-breaker question: “What’s the square root of 25?”
“NO SPELLING OR MATHS QUESTIONS! … We’re not a kids show for Indians and Asians! This is not a show for smart people! Here’s a simpleton question!” (Kyle, respecting his own audience as usual)
“Ladies, we’re right up in your anal canal” (Kyle on how “the boys” have won the competition, followed by “We’re the boys” studio chant by all the male employees)
“Blokes still would’ve rooted you, even at your fattest! … Some blokes will accept it!” Kyle to Jackie about her putting on weight)
“Triple J stickers are always on the shittiest cars” (Kyle)
“Jackie, whenever the censor speaks I feel I’ve heard her voice before … I know you’ve had a lot of knock-backs from blokes … she does radiate sadness, she’s always ruining fun, bleeping out the C-word which is needed to understand us” (Kyle to and about one of their studio censors)
“The ABC has the C-word, different rules for them … it’s almost designed for us to fail but we keep on conquering” (Kyle rant about different rules for different media outlets, totally ignoring the different time of day)
7.20am Segment: Birthdays
“Bald!” (Kyle after a comment about Prince William)
“Nothin’ wrong with Tay-Tay but that film clip where she had the titties out … blurred lines … then she said ‘I don’t wanna be objectified’ … Here’s a song by Taylor Swift, kill me now, you’re not sad, you’re getting pounded by a footballer on the daily” (Kyle)
7.30am Segment
“This is the gayest shit I’ve ever seen and I work with 13 gay sex addicts” (Kyle)
“Did he go the fiddle with you?” (Kyle to Jackie)
(Kyle is now asking women KiiSFM staff if he’s hot, he’s annoyed they’re calling Matt Smith hot)
“All the media write I’m a misogynist, I’m not, I’ve never instigated a relationship in my life, all the women begged for it, BEGGED FOR IT!” (Kyle, demonstrating the most warped definition of misogyny we’ve ever heard)
“Not one’s ever said that to me … my first wife said I was a 2 out of 10” (Kyle about a ‘best sex I’ve ever had’ quote)
“I prefer them on the phone, then we don’t have to do all the ‘thanks for coming in’ caring voice” (Kyle about his in-studio guests)
“When you’re a newspaper journalist, you don’t let the truth get in the way of the story, that’s why I’m now only in the Daily Mail” (Kyle on how all media orgs except the Daily Mail are untruthful, seriously, he meant it)
7.50am Segment: Interview with SAS soldiers
“If you have a girlfriend and she’s complaining of period pain, do you feel like saying ‘toughen up’? (Jackie to soldier)
“What’s worse: a missus on the period or being held by a terrorist organisation?” (Kyle, the suggestion is women are weak compared to SAS soldiers)
“I asked my co-host Jackie, who’s only slept with about 13 blokes, and not all at once”
“If you try and go in the back door” (SAS soldier Ian Dilks) … “What? That would be OK with our newsreader!” (Kyle, this is a gay slur)
“We’re very open and diverse to every little weirdness everyone’s got!” (Kyle)
“We liberated Kosovo, they came to the UK, got jobs and homes and stuff, then he stabbed me, how’s that for gratitude!” (Dilks on how he was stabbed in a pub, he said by a Kosovan refugee)
8.15am Segment: Pop Quiz
“Well done honey!” (Kyle patronisingly, to a woman contestant)
“Bruno is married with children but is also a pussy-boy” (Kyle about KiiSFM employee Bruno)
“It’s a gayed-up version of my life” (Kyle about his book)
“Well I was never half-bald!” (Kyle to Lachie, after Lachie said he’d come into the studio dressed like Kyle)
“I don’t know what that means” (Kyle after Jackie mentions a book prologue, he doesn’t understand the word)
“Turn that bitch off!” (Kyle after they start playing a Norah Jones song)
“Looks like Best and Less rubbish” (Kyle about Lachie’s shirt, another potential sponsor bites the dust)
“She’s so behind the eight-ball, and not in a good way” (Kyle about Jackie)
8.50am Segment: Ticket Before You Kick It
“Tomorrow we make another oldies’ dream come true!”
“How many cars do you need, Kyle?” (Jackie, after Kyle mentions he’s buying a new Nissan Patrol) … “I don’t worry about what it costs, it’s a beast” … “If you’re a Tongan family with thousands of kids, you don’t wanna drive a Tarago all your life!” (Kyle in response)
9.10am Segment: Second Date Update
“We went down on each other, the sex was really good” (Caller Liz tells a story of how she had a great first date then the guy ghosted her, Kyle and Jackie call the guy up, his name is Will) … “She nailed him in the hallway” (Kyle)
“You pounded her … sex was great on that first night?” (Kyle to Will)
“I got the ick … I noticed she had some stretch marks on her hips, she mentioned she’d lost a fair bit of weight but still, I wasn’t feeling it” (Will on why he ghosted Liz)
“If you’re at a second-hand car yard, do you have to ring up the first owner to say you didn’t like it?” (Kyle, on how it’s perfectly reasonable for men to ghost women over a physical defect)
“What a dick: it’s not like he’s god’s gift!” (Liz, about Will)
“She just gobbled you a couple of days before” (Kyle to Will on how it’s bad form to ghost someone just after you’ve had oral sex with them)
“I can’t stand chicks that go out with no shoes on, and stretch marks” (Will)
“If Jackie had a wandering eye, like Dan Andrews, would that be okay?” (Kyle about which female defects are OK with men)
“Your foot looks like it belongs to an Indian, it’s too brown” (Kyle about Jackie’s foot, which is up on the desk)
“Or in Liz’s case, downward and downward” (Kyle, oral sex joke, forget rest of context)
9.55am Segment: Callers
“The President’s whore” (Kyle about Stormy Daniels)
“Get Donald Trump on, your ratings would go through the roof!” (Caller to Kyle)
“In all honesty, we hate doing interviews” (Kyle) … “Yeah, we do” (Jackie)
“My favourite interviewee would be Trump” (Kyle)
“Kamala is the biggest flop who ever put on kitten heels, it’s not about being a woman it’s gotta be the best person, we don’t want all this woke shit, this equality thing, works so well, we’ll all be murdered by our foes” (Kyle on how women leaders are shit, weak and are all hired just because they’re women, fuck him)
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A few additional observations from our listeners of the show:
1. We do record and publish interactions which aren’t THAT bad in the scheme of things, because for us the hundreds of sexist, racist and homophobic micro-aggressions on each show are cumulatively as bad as the less regular horrific and violent content. The relentless demeaning of women and others in smaller, less obvious ways is one of the ways violent and abusive men receive confirmation that this treatment of others is normal and fine. It’s not just about the brutal comments as in the meme meme on this post, it’s about how they go on and on and on making women out to be useless, stupid, gross and dirty. And they do the same for black people, LGBTIQA+ people, and disabled people. None of this is okay in any way, particularly as their biggest audience is teenage boys. It’s not “just a joke” or otherwise innocuous, and it’s 100% deliberate on the part of Kyle and some of his male staff. They detest women and can’t wait for the chance to hurt us. And as well as the awful damage to all women and minorities, Kyle is still routinely horrible to his own staff and even his own family for kicks.
2. There is far more bleeping (because of the studio censors) during the show than previously, but horrendous content (as in the meme on our first tweet in this thread) still regularly gets through. Why?
3. There are more songs than there used to be, and most of the same songs are repeated every week. There are also more promo segments. This suggests fewer advertisers. We also suspect the show is getting some kind of kick-back from the artists involved because there’s no other reason a show would deliberately play exactly the same songs every single week.
4. There are fewer advertisers every week, and far more repeat playing of each advertiser’s ads. And every advertiser seems to get at least one “live read” of their ad during each show, which suggests they’re being offered more benefits not to pull out of the show. This also suggests some advertisers are being offered cheaper rates to stay, which is all helping our witchy campaign. Finally, we strongly suspect ads have been slowed down from the speeds they used to be played at, because many sound long and laboured. This also suggests fewer advertisers.
_______
It’s working, witches.
Let’s keep going. If you’re angry about this content and can’t remember how to contact advertisers and support our witchy work, read any of our previous #VileKyle posts to find out how.
Nothing changes unless we all do the work to get rid of Kyle.
Let’s go.
sarahs mum said:
I read this post from MFW’s. I wonder how this gets out on the airways. did we not have standards for broadcasting at one stage?
MFW
10 September at 13:21 ·
And again, witches, we bring you a transcript of the Kyle and Jackie O show from last week. We know many witches can’t stomach these transcripts but we do ask you to read them and share them, if you can. Because how else will you know how bad they are? How else will people be encouraged to contact the advertisers who are #FundingFilth, if nobody knows what it is?
_____Kyle and Jackie O Show, KiiSFM, Wednesday September 4, 2024. All quotes are Kyle unless otherwise stated. Information in brackets is where needed for context. Not all quotes verbatim but close.
6am Segment.
“She’s been arseholed out of her chair for Fung, the diversity hire” (Kyle about one of the censors, a woman of Asian background)
“They’re very worried about the filth in Melbourne, Jackie!” (Kyle about complaints about their content)
“We couldn’t possibly need THREE censors!” (Jackie)“I don’t mind being fingered up the arse” (KiiSFM employee Peter)
“You prefer to be a top, but you’ll do bottom?” (Kyle to Peter)
“Yeah, Jackie likes that too but she doesn’t yell it from the rooftops” (Kyle about some sexual technique)
“That’s like glory hole stuff, some dirty old grandma’s in there, toothless thing” (Kyle about sex clubs, said with disgust)
“You’re not desirable enough for group gay sex?” (Kyle to Peter)“Someone dropped a borry in the shower in a gym … we’ve all done a shit in the bath at a party” (Kyle about a media story on someone pooing in a shower at a gym)
“We’ve zoomed in on the poo to identify it, it’s smeared and in the left-hand corner so logically the person pooing is left-handed” (KiisFM employee Bruno)
“Can you identify the race of the person?” (Kyle) … “I zoomed in, looked at colour and consistency, can tell the diet, the person eats a lot of potatoes and rice, I don’t wanna sound racist but it’s an Indian left-handed male” (Bruno)
“To change your poo’s colour you have to eat more than one meal” (maybe Bruno, who now simulates being in the shower and doing the poo then squishing the poo live on air)
“If you’re going to all that effort to shit in the shower, you’ll do it right” (followed by a discussion about how to “wash your crack”)6.15am Segment: Exclusive Gronk News by KiiSFM employee Alfie
1. Some news about company Gusman e Gomez … “I always assumed they were a gay couple” (Kyle, followed by Kyle doing gross Mexican voices) … “You don’t cut a cancerous mole out only to put it back” (Kyle about KiiSFM employee Pedro)
2. Story about how the ABC held a meeting about Kyle and Jackie O’s program, something to do with “what they can learn from them” … something about Media Watch, David Marr the old host, “don’t even know the new flop” (Kyle about Paul Barry) … “Should I start asking every scientist their favourite sex position?” (Alfie) … “This new manager must know his stuff” (Kyle about Kim Williams, reckons he’s far better than his replacement) … “They’ll have Leigh Sales on there wearing nothing but a pearl necklace” (Kyle about his idea of jazzing up the ABC) … “They’ve got the lowest ratings of everyone, should shake it up a bit, get a refresh” (Kyle about the ABC) … (criticism now of ABC Classic, mocking the presenter) … “The salary difference is quite big as well!” (Kyle about ABC salaries, he never fails to mention his huge remuneration) … “How many we got and why are we paying for it all?” Kyle on how he believes the ABC is useless so why do his taxes pay for it) … “There are no interstate truckies listening to this shit!” (Kyle about ABC Classic radio) … “I’m on the nod here” (Kyle on classical music playing in the studio)6.40am Segment” Tradie vs. Lady
“Mia, 60kg, favourite sex position pretzel, that’s legs behind the head” … “My husband loves to twist me up like a pretzel” (caller Mia) … ‘We’ve been exploring threesomes lately, the man we contacted turned out to be our 66-year-old neighbour!” (Caller Mia, much guffawing in disgust in studio)
“So your husband agreed to a threesome with 2 blokes and 1 girl?” (Kyle)
“From a threesome expert, they’re not that great, they end up with 2 Brazilian models having a full-blown fight and you’re just left there with a half-deflated dinger … she was angry because I went out of her and finished with the other one … blokes, write that down!” (Kyle)
“Aaron, 90kg, fave sex position is the butcher’s wheelbarrow”
“It’s like doggy style but you hold their arms like a wheelbarrow, then you go to town and butcher the pussy” (caller Aaron)
Questions for the man (meant to be things men wouldn’t know): first one was something about a clay mask: “Lachie, it wouldn’t hurt you to use a mask, your face looks like the bottom of a pizza dish” (Kyle to KiiSFM employee Lachie)
“What do Modi-Bodi sell?” (Jackie) … “Period undies” (caller Aaron) … “He knows his rag news” (Kyle)
“I want my diamonds dug out by (Kyle, huge bleeping here but it was something racist about oppressed diamond slaves) … “Don’t bleep that out, censor, it was a joke!”
Questions for the woman:
1. “What’s the highest score in ten-pin bowling?”
2. Which F1 team does Oscar Piastri drive for?
3. What does WC stand for in a plumbing sense?”
(Questions meant to be things women wouldn’t know.)
(After naming the F1 team McLaren, Kyle has a rant on how McLaren cars are hard to drive, not nice, never get out of second gear, speed limits are stupid and so on and so on, as per usual)
Tie-breaker question: “What’s the square root of 25?”
“NO SPELLING OR MATHS QUESTIONS! … We’re not a kids show for Indians and Asians! This is not a show for smart people! Here’s a simpleton question!” (Kyle, respecting his own audience as usual)
“Ladies, we’re right up in your anal canal” (Kyle on how “the boys” have won the competition, followed by “We’re the boys” studio chant by all the male employees)
“Blokes still would’ve rooted you, even at your fattest! … Some blokes will accept it!” Kyle to Jackie about her putting on weight)
“Triple J stickers are always on the shittiest cars” (Kyle)
“Jackie, whenever the censor speaks I feel I’ve heard her voice before … I know you’ve had a lot of knock-backs from blokes … she does radiate sadness, she’s always ruining fun, bleeping out the C-word which is needed to understand us” (Kyle to and about one of their studio censors)
“The ABC has the C-word, different rules for them … it’s almost designed for us to fail but we keep on conquering” (Kyle rant about different rules for different media outlets, totally ignoring the different time of day)7.20am Segment: Birthdays
“Bald!” (Kyle after a comment about Prince William)
“Nothin’ wrong with Tay-Tay but that film clip where she had the titties out … blurred lines … then she said ‘I don’t wanna be objectified’ … Here’s a song by Taylor Swift, kill me now, you’re not sad, you’re getting pounded by a footballer on the daily” (Kyle)7.30am Segment
“This is the gayest shit I’ve ever seen and I work with 13 gay sex addicts” (Kyle)
“Did he go the fiddle with you?” (Kyle to Jackie)
(Kyle is now asking women KiiSFM staff if he’s hot, he’s annoyed they’re calling Matt Smith hot)
“All the media write I’m a misogynist, I’m not, I’ve never instigated a relationship in my life, all the women begged for it, BEGGED FOR IT!” (Kyle, demonstrating the most warped definition of misogyny we’ve ever heard)
“Not one’s ever said that to me … my first wife said I was a 2 out of 10” (Kyle about a ‘best sex I’ve ever had’ quote)
“I prefer them on the phone, then we don’t have to do all the ‘thanks for coming in’ caring voice” (Kyle about his in-studio guests)
“When you’re a newspaper journalist, you don’t let the truth get in the way of the story, that’s why I’m now only in the Daily Mail” (Kyle on how all media orgs except the Daily Mail are untruthful, seriously, he meant it)7.50am Segment: Interview with SAS soldiers
“If you have a girlfriend and she’s complaining of period pain, do you feel like saying ‘toughen up’? (Jackie to soldier)
“What’s worse: a missus on the period or being held by a terrorist organisation?” (Kyle, the suggestion is women are weak compared to SAS soldiers)
“I asked my co-host Jackie, who’s only slept with about 13 blokes, and not all at once”
“If you try and go in the back door” (SAS soldier Ian Dilks) … “What? That would be OK with our newsreader!” (Kyle, this is a gay slur)
“We’re very open and diverse to every little weirdness everyone’s got!” (Kyle)
“We liberated Kosovo, they came to the UK, got jobs and homes and stuff, then he stabbed me, how’s that for gratitude!” (Dilks on how he was stabbed in a pub, he said by a Kosovan refugee)8.15am Segment: Pop Quiz
“Well done honey!” (Kyle patronisingly, to a woman contestant)
“Bruno is married with children but is also a pussy-boy” (Kyle about KiiSFM employee Bruno)
“It’s a gayed-up version of my life” (Kyle about his book)
“Well I was never half-bald!” (Kyle to Lachie, after Lachie said he’d come into the studio dressed like Kyle)
“I don’t know what that means” (Kyle after Jackie mentions a book prologue, he doesn’t understand the word)
“Turn that bitch off!” (Kyle after they start playing a Norah Jones song)
“Looks like Best and Less rubbish” (Kyle about Lachie’s shirt, another potential sponsor bites the dust)
“She’s so behind the eight-ball, and not in a good way” (Kyle about Jackie)8.50am Segment: Ticket Before You Kick It
“Tomorrow we make another oldies’ dream come true!”
“How many cars do you need, Kyle?” (Jackie, after Kyle mentions he’s buying a new Nissan Patrol) … “I don’t worry about what it costs, it’s a beast” … “If you’re a Tongan family with thousands of kids, you don’t wanna drive a Tarago all your life!” (Kyle in response)9.10am Segment: Second Date Update
“We went down on each other, the sex was really good” (Caller Liz tells a story of how she had a great first date then the guy ghosted her, Kyle and Jackie call the guy up, his name is Will) … “She nailed him in the hallway” (Kyle)
“You pounded her … sex was great on that first night?” (Kyle to Will)
“I got the ick … I noticed she had some stretch marks on her hips, she mentioned she’d lost a fair bit of weight but still, I wasn’t feeling it” (Will on why he ghosted Liz)
“If you’re at a second-hand car yard, do you have to ring up the first owner to say you didn’t like it?” (Kyle, on how it’s perfectly reasonable for men to ghost women over a physical defect)
“What a dick: it’s not like he’s god’s gift!” (Liz, about Will)
“She just gobbled you a couple of days before” (Kyle to Will on how it’s bad form to ghost someone just after you’ve had oral sex with them)
“I can’t stand chicks that go out with no shoes on, and stretch marks” (Will)
“If Jackie had a wandering eye, like Dan Andrews, would that be okay?” (Kyle about which female defects are OK with men)
“Your foot looks like it belongs to an Indian, it’s too brown” (Kyle about Jackie’s foot, which is up on the desk)
“Or in Liz’s case, downward and downward” (Kyle, oral sex joke, forget rest of context)9.55am Segment: Callers
“The President’s whore” (Kyle about Stormy Daniels)
“Get Donald Trump on, your ratings would go through the roof!” (Caller to Kyle)
“In all honesty, we hate doing interviews” (Kyle) … “Yeah, we do” (Jackie)
“My favourite interviewee would be Trump” (Kyle)
“Kamala is the biggest flop who ever put on kitten heels, it’s not about being a woman it’s gotta be the best person, we don’t want all this woke shit, this equality thing, works so well, we’ll all be murdered by our foes” (Kyle on how women leaders are shit, weak and are all hired just because they’re women, fuck him)
_______A few additional observations from our listeners of the show:
1. We do record and publish interactions which aren’t THAT bad in the scheme of things, because for us the hundreds of sexist, racist and homophobic micro-aggressions on each show are cumulatively as bad as the less regular horrific and violent content. The relentless demeaning of women and others in smaller, less obvious ways is one of the ways violent and abusive men receive confirmation that this treatment of others is normal and fine. It’s not just about the brutal comments as in the meme meme on this post, it’s about how they go on and on and on making women out to be useless, stupid, gross and dirty. And they do the same for black people, LGBTIQA+ people, and disabled people. None of this is okay in any way, particularly as their biggest audience is teenage boys. It’s not “just a joke” or otherwise innocuous, and it’s 100% deliberate on the part of Kyle and some of his male staff. They detest women and can’t wait for the chance to hurt us. And as well as the awful damage to all women and minorities, Kyle is still routinely horrible to his own staff and even his own family for kicks.
2. There is far more bleeping (because of the studio censors) during the show than previously, but horrendous content (as in the meme on our first tweet in this thread) still regularly gets through. Why?
3. There are more songs than there used to be, and most of the same songs are repeated every week. There are also more promo segments. This suggests fewer advertisers. We also suspect the show is getting some kind of kick-back from the artists involved because there’s no other reason a show would deliberately play exactly the same songs every single week.
4. There are fewer advertisers every week, and far more repeat playing of each advertiser’s ads. And every advertiser seems to get at least one “live read” of their ad during each show, which suggests they’re being offered more benefits not to pull out of the show. This also suggests some advertisers are being offered cheaper rates to stay, which is all helping our witchy campaign. Finally, we strongly suspect ads have been slowed down from the speeds they used to be played at, because many sound long and laboured. This also suggests fewer advertisers.
_______It’s working, witches.
Let’s keep going. If you’re angry about this content and can’t remember how to contact advertisers and support our witchy work, read any of our previous #VileKyle posts to find out how.
Nothing changes unless we all do the work to get rid of Kyle.
Let’s go.
This was on Media Watch on Monday; with comments similar to yours.
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:That is ONLY if there is a fire. You, including fire brigades cannot just enter someone’s property and do what they like, despite many thinking they can. The locked roadside reserve might be being leased by the landowner and so they have rights too. Native vegetation is the home of many birds and small animals particularly at this time of year, but of course they have no rights at all.
Apologies for being pedantic about it, but that’s not really correct.
The WA Bush Fire Act 1954 does provide for authorised persons to ‘just enter someone’s property’ at any time.
That property owners are advised in advance would seem to be required only as a matter of courtesy. It would be equally courteous of property owners to assist with the fire officers’ work by ensuring that they have access at the appropriate time.
Please note: Entrance was for ONLY to control a fire, or the INSPECTION of fire breaks. It does NOT give permission to anyone to enter someone’s property and light fires for ANY reason. I think your old man would get into a lot of trouble these days and you too if you decided to follow his example.
Fire Control Officers are authorised to enter someones property and light fires, bulldoze houses, blow stuff up etc, if it is deemed necessary. We are told very clearly during training that there is usually an investigation afterward and any actions that are not deemed necessary are chargeable offenses, so the bare minimum is done. I have entered properties and started backburns before.
However in this case, it is an uncleared road reserve, not “someones property”. It is owned and managed by the city, and there is an emergency access track for the emergency services, and an escape route for locals if needed. Someone has padlocked the access track, not their property. If that track was needed for an escape route and people died because it was locked, there would be a solid case for manslaughter.
This was on Media Watch on Monday; with comments similar to yours.
glad I am not alone. I am not a fuddy duddy but there is a point…
sarahs mum said:
This was on Media Watch on Monday; with comments similar to yours.
glad I am not alone. I am not a fuddy duddy but there is a point…
Hard to imagine anyone willingly listening to such awful crap.
Okay, A Task is complete and as usual, not as bad as I was expecting.
But I rewarded myself with some more choc anyway.
Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.
dv said:
Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.See I could probably eat a dozen in a meal (and have never and will never purge) but I’m currently maintaining my weight on ~5000 kJ per day (yes, I’m a midget).
OCDC said:
But I rewarded myself with some more choc anyway.
LOL
OCDC said:
dv said:When I started keto, I lost weight rapidly on 6600 kJ per day.Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.See I could probably eat a dozen in a meal (and have never and will never purge) but I’m currently maintaining my weight on ~5000 kJ per day (yes, I’m a midget).
dv said:
Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.
That doesn’t seem right to me. Fish is normally fairly low kg. I realise they have a coating but that’s not going to add much.
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:That is ONLY if there is a fire. You, including fire brigades cannot just enter someone’s property and do what they like, despite many thinking they can. The locked roadside reserve might be being leased by the landowner and so they have rights too. Native vegetation is the home of many birds and small animals particularly at this time of year, but of course they have no rights at all.
Apologies for being pedantic about it, but that’s not really correct.
The WA Bush Fire Act 1954 does provide for authorised persons to ‘just enter someone’s property’ at any time.
That property owners are advised in advance would seem to be required only as a matter of courtesy. It would be equally courteous of property owners to assist with the fire officers’ work by ensuring that they have access at the appropriate time.
Please note: Entrance was for ONLY to control a fire, or the INSPECTION of fire breaks. It does NOT give permission to anyone to enter someone’s property and light fires for ANY reason. I think your old man would get into a lot of trouble these days and you too if you decided to follow his example.
I invite your attention to subsections c, d, f, g, and h of the extract provided, and to note that those sections do not require the existence of a fire for entry to the land or buidling.
Secondly, I would point out that Section 33 of the same Act provides that a property owner may be required to :
‘plough, cultivate, scarify, burn or otherwise clear upon the land fire-breaks in such manner, at such places, of such dimensions, and to such number, and whether in
parallel or otherwise, as the local government may and is hereby empowered to determine and as are specified in the notice, and thereafter to maintain the fire-breaks
clear of inflammable matter;’
And that, if a property owner does not comply with the directions, then Section 33(4) of the same Act provides that:
‘Where an owner or occupier of land who has received notice under subsection (1) fails or neglects to comply with the requisitions of the notice within the time specified in the notice —
(a) the local government may direct its bush fire control officer, or any other officer of the local government, to enter upon the land of the owner or occupier and to carry
out the requisitions of the notice which have not been complied with; and
(b) the bush fire control officer or other officer may, in pursuance of the direction, enter upon the land of the owner or occupier with such servants, workmen, or contractors, and with such vehicles, machinery, and appliances as he deems fit, and may do such acts, matters and things as may be necessary to carry out the
requisitions of the notice.’
Which all lead me to suggest that you are mistaken in your apprehension of the avenues available to fire authorities under that Act.
OCDC said:
dv said:Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.See I could probably eat a dozen in a meal (and have never and will never purge) but I’m currently maintaining my weight on ~5000 kJ per day (yes, I’m a midget).
I doubt I could eat a dozen.
Michael V said:
dv said:Seems you’re right and the kJ listed are per serve of three.Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.That doesn’t seem right to me. Fish is normally fairly low kg. I realise they have a coating but that’s not going to add much.
Michael V said:
OCDC said:Only 300 g. Easily done for me.dv said:I doubt I could eat a dozen.Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.See I could probably eat a dozen in a meal (and have never and will never purge) but I’m currently maintaining my weight on ~5000 kJ per day (yes, I’m a midget).
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:It’s not their property, it’s a road reserve, and they have padlocked the official emergency access to it.
They have been notified of the impending fuel reduction burn of one in four grasstrees.
I think i’ve mentioned here before about how a fire zone was operated when my dad was a fireman. Maybe it’s still the same rules.
Once the senior fire officer (e.g. brigade captain) declared it was a fire ground, then he basically owned everything in that area, and everyone in it (including the police) act on his instructions.
He wants the water from your swimming pool? He can just take it.
Your car is in the way? If necessary, he can get the fire engine to just nudge up to it, and push it out of the way.
That is ONLY if there is a fire. You, including fire brigades cannot just enter someone’s property and do what they like, despite many thinking they can. The locked roadside reserve might be being leased by the landowner and so they have rights too. Native vegetation is the home of many birds and small animals particularly at this time of year, but of course they have no rights at all.
The landowner might be far more aware of the environmental situation than someone who just wants to set fire to things. I have no problems with burning sections of the bush, but I do with petty bureaucrats who think they can do what they like to you and your property. Fire brigades must work within the regulations of the Shire and even their people cannot just barge onto your property without good course and prior notification.
Mosaic burning only.
OCDC said:
Michael V said:And now I could go some.OCDC said:Only 300 g. Easily done for me.See I could probably eat a dozen in a meal (and have never and will never purge) but I’m currently maintaining my weight on ~5000 kJ per day (yes, I’m a midget).I doubt I could eat a dozen.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.That doesn’t seem right to me. Fish is normally fairly low kg. I realise they have a coating but that’s not going to add much.
I mean I assume Birdseye aren’t overstating their unit kJ for some reason. It’s right on the package.
Kingy said:
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:Apologies for being pedantic about it, but that’s not really correct.
The WA Bush Fire Act 1954 does provide for authorised persons to ‘just enter someone’s property’ at any time.
That property owners are advised in advance would seem to be required only as a matter of courtesy. It would be equally courteous of property owners to assist with the fire officers’ work by ensuring that they have access at the appropriate time.
Please note: Entrance was for ONLY to control a fire, or the INSPECTION of fire breaks. It does NOT give permission to anyone to enter someone’s property and light fires for ANY reason. I think your old man would get into a lot of trouble these days and you too if you decided to follow his example.
Fire Control Officers are authorised to enter someones property and light fires, bulldoze houses, blow stuff up etc, if it is deemed necessary. We are told very clearly during training that there is usually an investigation afterward and any actions that are not deemed necessary are chargeable offenses, so the bare minimum is done. I have entered properties and started backburns before.
However in this case, it is an uncleared road reserve, not “someones property”. It is owned and managed by the city, and there is an emergency access track for the emergency services, and an escape route for locals if needed. Someone has padlocked the access track, not their property. If that track was needed for an escape route and people died because it was locked, there would be a solid case for manslaughter.
Again, you confuse the brigade’s actions and responsibilities when fighting a fire, as against fuel reduction burns that are started by the brigade. They are different situations where different rules apply. You CANNOT enter a person’s property and do what you like just because you feel like it. The access track as you call it, might be leased and they have a right to lock the gates and if natural bush, it is probably not suitable for use as a road or escape vector as you like to make out. If that is the case, then you cannot just cut locks or fences and burn what you like as you are trespassing on other people’s rights and management style.
I know you people like to think you can do as you please, but there are restrictions on your authority, which should be controlled by the Shire or similar and they being a government organisation need to justify their decisions in law or to an ombudsman if necessary.
I do have some experience here having taken both the local fire brigade and the power supply people to the ombudsman on 4 (four) occasions and have been vindicated each time.
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.That doesn’t seem right to me. Fish is normally fairly low kg. I realise they have a coating but that’s not going to add much.
I mean I assume Birdseye aren’t overstating their unit kJ for some reason. It’s right on the package.
What % of fish is in those things anyway?
OCDC said:
Michael V said:dv said:Seems you’re right and the kJ listed are per serve of three.Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.That doesn’t seem right to me. Fish is normally fairly low kg. I realise they have a coating but that’s not going to add much.
Well I’ll be darned. Thanks for correcting me.
Kingy said:
dv said:51%Michael V said:What % of fish is in those things anyway?That doesn’t seem right to me. Fish is normally fairly low kg. I realise they have a coating but that’s not going to add much.I mean I assume Birdseye aren’t overstating their unit kJ for some reason. It’s right on the package.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.That doesn’t seem right to me. Fish is normally fairly low kg. I realise they have a coating but that’s not going to add much.
dv didn’t notice that the 636 kj is for three, so a dozen = 2544 kj.
https://www.fatsecret.com.au/calories-nutrition/birds-eye/fish-fingers/3-fingers
Kingy said:
Someone has padlocked the access track, not their property. If that track was needed for an escape route and people died because it was locked, there would be a solid case for manslaughter.
Reminds me of a time aboard HMAS Brisbane, when i was a newly-minted SBLT.
Being broke, i was spendingthe weekend aboard. Me and the Officer of the Day were about the only ones in the wardroom.
One of the ship’s sporting teams wanted some sports gear to practice with. But, the sports store was locked, and ‘the sailor with the keys has gone ashore’ (how many times i had heard that phrase!).
Some OODs might have said, ‘tough luck, boys’. Not this bloke.
‘I’m the Officer of the Day, and i will have access to every part of this ship, for routine or emergency. Roust out the Duty Stoker, and have him bring some bolt cutters. Get the Canteen Manager to draw a new padlock, and have him bring it here. And note that i wish to see the sailor with the keys to this space on his return. All spaces will be accessible, in case of fire etc.’
Michael V said:
dv said:
Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.That doesn’t seem right to me. Fish is normally fairly low kg. I realise they have a coating but that’s not going to add much.

https://birdseye.com.au/product/birds-eye-whiting-fish-fingers-original-crumb-14-pack/12962
I make that as 218 kJ per 25 g fish finger. A dozen would therefore be 2616 kJ.
Kingy said:
56%
dv said:
Michael V said:That doesn’t seem right to me. Fish is normally fairly low kg. I realise they have a coating but that’s not going to add much.
I mean I assume Birdseye aren’t overstating their unit kJ for some reason. It’s right on the package.
What % of fish is in those things anyway?

https://birdseye.com.au/product/birds-eye-whiting-fish-fingers-original-crumb-14-pack/12962
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.That doesn’t seem right to me. Fish is normally fairly low kg. I realise they have a coating but that’s not going to add much.
https://birdseye.com.au/product/birds-eye-whiting-fish-fingers-original-crumb-14-pack/12962
I make that as 218 kJ per 25 g fish finger. A dozen would therefore be 2616 kJ.
Birds Eye also do fish fingers with hoki (blue grenadier).
Michael V said:
Kingy said:56%
dv said:I mean I assume Birdseye aren’t overstating their unit kJ for some reason. It’s right on the package.
What % of fish is in those things anyway?
https://birdseye.com.au/product/birds-eye-whiting-fish-fingers-original-crumb-14-pack/12962
and it depends on your definition of ‘fish’.
It’s possible that the fish fingers are ‘reconstituted’ from the processed portions of a fish which might not normally appeal to your appetite.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Kingy said:56%What % of fish is in those things anyway?
https://birdseye.com.au/product/birds-eye-whiting-fish-fingers-original-crumb-14-pack/12962
and it depends on your definition of ‘fish’.
It’s possible that the fish fingers are ‘reconstituted’ from the processed portions of a fish which might not normally appeal to your appetite.
Although it does say ‘whiting fillets’, so i may be somewhat ungenerous there. Which is not to say that some other brands are as fussy about their ingredients.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Kingy said:56%What % of fish is in those things anyway?
https://birdseye.com.au/product/birds-eye-whiting-fish-fingers-original-crumb-14-pack/12962
and it depends on your definition of ‘fish’.
It’s possible that the fish fingers are ‘reconstituted’ from the processed portions of a fish which might not normally appeal to your appetite.
Like fish lips and fish buttholes, not just their fingers.
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:That is ONLY if there is a fire. You, including fire brigades cannot just enter someone’s property and do what they like, despite many thinking they can. The locked roadside reserve might be being leased by the landowner and so they have rights too. Native vegetation is the home of many birds and small animals particularly at this time of year, but of course they have no rights at all.
Apologies for being pedantic about it, but that’s not really correct.
The WA Bush Fire Act 1954 does provide for authorised persons to ‘just enter someone’s property’ at any time.
That property owners are advised in advance would seem to be required only as a matter of courtesy. It would be equally courteous of property owners to assist with the fire officers’ work by ensuring that they have access at the appropriate time.
Again, you deliberately confuse the right to INSPECT and ORDER the landowner to clean up their property of dangerous inflammable material and the construction of firebreaks, with the entering, causing damage and setting alight the property because the brigade thinks it should be done.
You might also note that the regulations initially place this responsibility on the landowner and NOT on the brigade and ONLY after direction from the authority (Shire) has been given, which if ignored the local fire brigade are only then directed to get involved. During this time the landowners or leasee of the road reserve can object or contact a higher authority to question the fairness of the order.
Mr Tunks is now mowing the front garden, usually his last job.
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:That is ONLY if there is a fire. You, including fire brigades cannot just enter someone’s property and do what they like, despite many thinking they can. The locked roadside reserve might be being leased by the landowner and so they have rights too. Native vegetation is the home of many birds and small animals particularly at this time of year, but of course they have no rights at all.
Apologies for being pedantic about it, but that’s not really correct.
The WA Bush Fire Act 1954 does provide for authorised persons to ‘just enter someone’s property’ at any time.
That property owners are advised in advance would seem to be required only as a matter of courtesy. It would be equally courteous of property owners to assist with the fire officers’ work by ensuring that they have access at the appropriate time.
Again, you deliberately confuse the right to INSPECT and ORDER the landowner to clean up their property of dangerous inflammable material and the construction of firebreaks, with the entering, causing damage and setting alight the property because the brigade thinks it should be done.
You might also note that the regulations initially place this responsibility on the landowner and NOT on the brigade and ONLY after direction from the authority (Shire) has been given, which if ignored the local fire brigade are only then directed to get involved. During this time the landowners or leasee of the road reserve can object or contact a higher authority to question the fairness of the order.
Nonetheless, your assertion that ‘fire (authorities) cannot just enter someone’s property’ appears to be unfounded.
And, it’s plain to see that, as drafted and passed, the law does provide for those authorities to enter the land, in pursuit of proper directions, and do precisely the things which you have declared they cannot do.
Which is not to say that there may not be exceptional and individual circumstances which might warrant objection by a landowner or occupier, but the law, as it stands, clearly empowers the fire authorities to do those things.
Jumbo fish finger.

Bubblecar said:
Jumbo fish finger.
Gosh!
Bubblecar said:
Jumbo fish finger.
World’s smallest fish finger sandwich.

Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Jumbo fish finger.
World’s smallest fish finger sandwich.
Made for one D. Trump to handle.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Jumbo fish finger.
World’s smallest fish finger sandwich.
Made for one D. Trump to handle.
Ha!
Had a nice chat with Mr Tunks who’s done a fine job as usual.
Everything shipshape inside and out for tomorrow’s inspection.
early dinner will be, will be something, and it’s landed alongside me, one part is steaming hot, other part car could probably guess, if he guessed right, which he might or he might not, I can’t know for certain how that may go, there’s uncertainty regard that, an uncertain amount of uncertainty, certainly there is uncertainty, hmm anyway this paragraph is barely holding my attention with a competing desire to eat, to keep typing or to eat, this is the question
transition said:
early dinner will be, will be something, and it’s landed alongside me, one part is steaming hot, other part car could probably guess, if he guessed right, which he might or he might not, I can’t know for certain how that may go, there’s uncertainty regard that, an uncertain amount of uncertainty, certainly there is uncertainty, hmm anyway this paragraph is barely holding my attention with a competing desire to eat, to keep typing or to eat, this is the question
Something steaming hot served with grated carrot.
Bubblecar said:
Had a nice chat with Mr Tunks who’s done a fine job as usual.Everything shipshape inside and out for tomorrow’s inspection.
He’s no Rodney, but.
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:Apologies for being pedantic about it, but that’s not really correct.
The WA Bush Fire Act 1954 does provide for authorised persons to ‘just enter someone’s property’ at any time.
That property owners are advised in advance would seem to be required only as a matter of courtesy. It would be equally courteous of property owners to assist with the fire officers’ work by ensuring that they have access at the appropriate time.
Again, you deliberately confuse the right to INSPECT and ORDER the landowner to clean up their property of dangerous inflammable material and the construction of firebreaks, with the entering, causing damage and setting alight the property because the brigade thinks it should be done.
You might also note that the regulations initially place this responsibility on the landowner and NOT on the brigade and ONLY after direction from the authority (Shire) has been given, which if ignored the local fire brigade are only then directed to get involved. During this time the landowners or leasee of the road reserve can object or contact a higher authority to question the fairness of the order.
Nonetheless, your assertion that ‘fire (authorities) cannot just enter someone’s property’ appears to be unfounded.
And, it’s plain to see that, as drafted and passed, the law does provide for those authorities to enter the land, in pursuit of proper directions, and do precisely the things which you have declared they cannot do.
Which is not to say that there may not be exceptional and individual circumstances which might warrant objection by a landowner or occupier, but the law, as it stands, clearly empowers the fire authorities to do those things.
Waste of time trying to tell you anything, probably because you think you already know everything. Forget my experience in dealing with these situations on four separate occasions because they just don’t count against your immeasurable depth of understanding. PS you sound just like the bureaucratic know it all’s that I had to by-pass in order to get just and sensible decisions.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
early dinner will be, will be something, and it’s landed alongside me, one part is steaming hot, other part car could probably guess, if he guessed right, which he might or he might not, I can’t know for certain how that may go, there’s uncertainty regard that, an uncertain amount of uncertainty, certainly there is uncertainty, hmm anyway this paragraph is barely holding my attention with a competing desire to eat, to keep typing or to eat, this is the question
Something steaming hot served with grated carrot.
you should be tested for extra sensory perception, you’ve got a rare gift, could be a savant gift
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:Again, you deliberately confuse the right to INSPECT and ORDER the landowner to clean up their property of dangerous inflammable material and the construction of firebreaks, with the entering, causing damage and setting alight the property because the brigade thinks it should be done.
You might also note that the regulations initially place this responsibility on the landowner and NOT on the brigade and ONLY after direction from the authority (Shire) has been given, which if ignored the local fire brigade are only then directed to get involved. During this time the landowners or leasee of the road reserve can object or contact a higher authority to question the fairness of the order.
Nonetheless, your assertion that ‘fire (authorities) cannot just enter someone’s property’ appears to be unfounded.
And, it’s plain to see that, as drafted and passed, the law does provide for those authorities to enter the land, in pursuit of proper directions, and do precisely the things which you have declared they cannot do.
Which is not to say that there may not be exceptional and individual circumstances which might warrant objection by a landowner or occupier, but the law, as it stands, clearly empowers the fire authorities to do those things.
Waste of time trying to tell you anything, probably because you think you already know everything. Forget my experience in dealing with these situations on four separate occasions because they just don’t count against your immeasurable depth of understanding. PS you sound just like the bureaucratic know it all’s that I had to by-pass in order to get just and sensible decisions.
So you claim to know more about this than Kingy?
FFS why are people feeding the troll?
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:Nonetheless, your assertion that ‘fire (authorities) cannot just enter someone’s property’ appears to be unfounded.
And, it’s plain to see that, as drafted and passed, the law does provide for those authorities to enter the land, in pursuit of proper directions, and do precisely the things which you have declared they cannot do.
Which is not to say that there may not be exceptional and individual circumstances which might warrant objection by a landowner or occupier, but the law, as it stands, clearly empowers the fire authorities to do those things.
Waste of time trying to tell you anything, probably because you think you already know everything. Forget my experience in dealing with these situations on four separate occasions because they just don’t count against your immeasurable depth of understanding. PS you sound just like the bureaucratic know it all’s that I had to by-pass in order to get just and sensible decisions.
So you claim to know more about this than Kingy?
Yes I probably do. Going on some of the higher-ups in my local brigade, they did not even know the details the shire sent to every property owner about what is required of them. They simply had not bothered to read it.
OCDC said:
FFS why are people feeding the troll?
old habits dye poorly.
OCDC said:
FFS why are people feeding the troll?
not a troll, really does believe what asserts, undercover works for a secret arsonist organization, they primarily stop fire trucks getting to fires
humor alert
OCDC said:
FFS why are people feeding the troll?
Are you inferring that I am a troll?
What a bloody cheek when considering your constant whining about your health and diet.
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:Again, you deliberately confuse the right to INSPECT and ORDER the landowner to clean up their property of dangerous inflammable material and the construction of firebreaks, with the entering, causing damage and setting alight the property because the brigade thinks it should be done.
You might also note that the regulations initially place this responsibility on the landowner and NOT on the brigade and ONLY after direction from the authority (Shire) has been given, which if ignored the local fire brigade are only then directed to get involved. During this time the landowners or leasee of the road reserve can object or contact a higher authority to question the fairness of the order.
Nonetheless, your assertion that ‘fire (authorities) cannot just enter someone’s property’ appears to be unfounded.
And, it’s plain to see that, as drafted and passed, the law does provide for those authorities to enter the land, in pursuit of proper directions, and do precisely the things which you have declared they cannot do.
Which is not to say that there may not be exceptional and individual circumstances which might warrant objection by a landowner or occupier, but the law, as it stands, clearly empowers the fire authorities to do those things.
Waste of time trying to tell you anything, probably because you think you already know everything. Forget my experience in dealing with these situations on four separate occasions because they just don’t count against your immeasurable depth of understanding. PS you sound just like the bureaucratic know it all’s that I had to by-pass in order to get just and sensible decisions.
As i say, i don’t doubt that there are circumstances where objection would be both warranted and successful, and i congratulate you on your successes in such cases. I’m sure that your reasons were quite sound, and the outcomes verify that. You experiences are valuable, in that they show that the law is not always right, and that it can be, and sometimes needs to be, challenged.
But, your assertions that fire authorities do not have a warrant to do such things do not appear to have firm foundations. The Bush Fires Act 1954 provides them with precisely the legal basis on which they can, and, if issued with proper instructions, must do those things.
It’s not your experiences that i argue against, nor do i arguethat the law is infallible. My contention is with your assertion that fire authorities are not allowed to do such things, when, clearly, they are.
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:Waste of time trying to tell you anything, probably because you think you already know everything. Forget my experience in dealing with these situations on four separate occasions because they just don’t count against your immeasurable depth of understanding. PS you sound just like the bureaucratic know it all’s that I had to by-pass in order to get just and sensible decisions.
So you claim to know more about this than Kingy?
Yes I probably do. Going on some of the higher-ups in my local brigade, they did not even know the details the shire sent to every property owner about what is required of them. They simply had not bothered to read it.
I bet the local volunteers who put their lives on the line for numb-nuts like you will treat you with a greater degree of professionalism next time it’s your property on fire.

PermeateFree said:
OCDC said:
FFS why are people feeding the troll?
Are you inferring that I am a troll?
What a bloody cheek when considering your constant whining about your health and diet.
Well at least she didn’t fall for Elon Musk’s crap and was so embarrassed about it they avoided the forum for 2 months. I noticed no one seemed to miss you.
SCIENCE said:
Strawberry has 3 r’s?
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:Nonetheless, your assertion that ‘fire (authorities) cannot just enter someone’s property’ appears to be unfounded.
And, it’s plain to see that, as drafted and passed, the law does provide for those authorities to enter the land, in pursuit of proper directions, and do precisely the things which you have declared they cannot do.
Which is not to say that there may not be exceptional and individual circumstances which might warrant objection by a landowner or occupier, but the law, as it stands, clearly empowers the fire authorities to do those things.
Waste of time trying to tell you anything, probably because you think you already know everything. Forget my experience in dealing with these situations on four separate occasions because they just don’t count against your immeasurable depth of understanding. PS you sound just like the bureaucratic know it all’s that I had to by-pass in order to get just and sensible decisions.
As i say, i don’t doubt that there are circumstances where objection would be both warranted and successful, and i congratulate you on your successes in such cases. I’m sure that your reasons were quite sound, and the outcomes verify that. You experiences are valuable, in that they show that the law is not always right, and that it can be, and sometimes needs to be, challenged.
But, your assertions that fire authorities do not have a warrant to do such things do not appear to have firm foundations. The Bush Fires Act 1954 provides them with precisely the legal basis on which they can, and, if issued with proper instructions, must do those things.
It’s not your experiences that i argue against, nor do i arguethat the law is infallible. My contention is with your assertion that fire authorities are not allowed to do such things, when, clearly, they are.
Look smartarse. Kingy in his normal gung-ho manner initially called the property owner an idiot for having locks on the unmade road abutting their property and don’t bother finding out if he has a legitimate reason to do so. He then said he would cut them enter and burn the grasstrees around his home.
If the landowner has not been informed of this decision and/or the status of the road is unknown, then BEFORE the fire brigade do this, the situation must be resolved and the property owner fully informed and given time to respond. There are laws in this country that also apply to Fire Brigades and Shire Administration that there are certain procedures to go through before the Fire Brigades do as Kingy says he will do without further consultation.
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:So you claim to know more about this than Kingy?
Yes I probably do. Going on some of the higher-ups in my local brigade, they did not even know the details the shire sent to every property owner about what is required of them. They simply had not bothered to read it.
I bet the local volunteers who put their lives on the line for numb-nuts like you will treat you with a greater degree of professionalism next time it’s your property on fire.
I think all the numb-nuts join the fire brigade, because when I had a fire here a few years back (lit I suspect by one of their members), they proved to be environmental vandals and I hope next time they don’t come, as I could have handled it much better on my own as I had been doing for many years.
JudgeMental said:
OCDC said:
FFS why are people feeding the troll?
old habits dye poorly.
maybe, but don’t put them in the washing machine with a brand new red jumper
Coles testify: We’re planning to arrive between 5:25 PM and 6:25 PM.
Think I’ll choose an earlier slot next time, I’m getting hungry.
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
OCDC said:
FFS why are people feeding the troll?
Are you inferring that I am a troll?
What a bloody cheek when considering your constant whining about your health and diet.
Well at least she didn’t fall for Elon Musk’s crap and was so embarrassed about it they avoided the forum for 2 months. I noticed no one seemed to miss you.
I’m not here because of you or anyone else and I shall be disappearing back into the either when you stop making stupid statements, although that might be asking too much for that to happen.
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:Are you inferring that I am a troll?
What a bloody cheek when considering your constant whining about your health and diet.
Well at least she didn’t fall for Elon Musk’s crap and was so embarrassed about it they avoided the forum for 2 months. I noticed no one seemed to miss you.
I’m not here because of you or anyone else and I shall be disappearing back into the either when you stop making stupid statements, although that might be asking too much for that to happen.
Hah. Can’t even admit his mistakes.
Going to slow-cook a slab of silverside tomorrow.
I’ll put it in the slow cooker at around 9am, so the house will be blessed with pleasing cooking smells for the inspection.
Good evening, folks.
monkey skipper said:
Good evening, folks.
Just because you’ve broken out the red wine doesn’t mean 4.15pm is the evening. :-P
monkey skipper said:
Good evening, folks.
A bit early for evening, but greetings monkey.
Last few days of holiday coming up?
better odding
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Well at least she didn’t fall for Elon Musk’s crap and was so embarrassed about it they avoided the forum for 2 months. I noticed no one seemed to miss you.
I’m not here because of you or anyone else and I shall be disappearing back into the either when you stop making stupid statements, although that might be asking too much for that to happen.
Hah. Can’t even admit his mistakes.
Regarding Elon Musk, it would help if you listened to the man himself rather than all the extreme leftwing views of his enemies, as you will never get a just or sensible answer from them. Bit like calling me a troll who has in the past posted more scientific material here than most, instead you prefer to believe the bleating’s of the biased who intern need others (more alpha) to make their minds up for them.
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:I’m not here because of you or anyone else and I shall be disappearing back into the either when you stop making stupid statements, although that might be asking too much for that to happen.
Hah. Can’t even admit his mistakes.
Regarding Elon Musk, it would help if you listened to the man himself rather than all the extreme leftwing views of his enemies, as you will never get a just or sensible answer from them. Bit like calling me a troll who has in the past posted more scientific material here than most, instead you prefer to believe the bleating’s of the biased who intern need others (more alpha) to make their minds up for them.
So you still support Elon and Trump. Good to know.
Witty Rejoinder said:
monkey skipper said:
Good evening, folks.
Just because you’ve broken out the red wine doesn’t mean 4.15pm is the evening. :-P
We got dressed up in coloured wigs to pick up my grandson from school this afternoon. Some of the parents were a bit concerned with the bright pink and bright yellow hair and John Lennon sunglasses. We had a disco party at home with nibblie as a surprise afternoon event and those outfits were definitely part of the dress code.
Even had some glow stick , a mirror ball and disco lights swirling patterns on the ceiling.
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Good evening, folks.
A bit early for evening, but greetings monkey.
Last few days of holiday coming up?
yup
feeding the trash
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Hah. Can’t even admit his mistakes.
Regarding Elon Musk, it would help if you listened to the man himself rather than all the extreme leftwing views of his enemies, as you will never get a just or sensible answer from them. Bit like calling me a troll who has in the past posted more scientific material here than most, instead you prefer to believe the bleating’s of the biased who intern need others (more alpha) to make their minds up for them.
So you still support Elon and Trump. Good to know.
You and Science ought to get together as you both jump to ridiculous conclusions for the slimiest of reasons. Sorry, but your basic and ill considered views do not show either of you in a very favorable light.
SCIENCE said:
feeding the trash
sounding a bit sassy there,,,special occasion?
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:Regarding Elon Musk, it would help if you listened to the man himself rather than all the extreme leftwing views of his enemies, as you will never get a just or sensible answer from them. Bit like calling me a troll who has in the past posted more scientific material here than most, instead you prefer to believe the bleating’s of the biased who intern need others (more alpha) to make their minds up for them.
So you still support Elon and Trump. Good to know.
You and Science ought to get together as you both jump to ridiculous conclusions for the slimiest of reasons. Sorry, but your basic and ill considered views do not show either of you in a very favorable light.
At least everybody doesn’t hate me and consider me a troll.
monkey skipper said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
monkey skipper said:
Good evening, folks.
Just because you’ve broken out the red wine doesn’t mean 4.15pm is the evening. :-P
We got dressed up in coloured wigs to pick up my grandson from school this afternoon. Some of the parents were a bit concerned with the bright pink and bright yellow hair and John Lennon sunglasses. We had a disco party at home with nibblie as a surprise afternoon event and those outfits were definitely part of the dress code.
Even had some glow stick , a mirror ball and disco lights swirling patterns on the ceiling.
Ha :)
monkey skipper said:
SCIENCE said:
feeding the trash
sounding a bit sassy there,,,special occasion?
No, he’ll eat anything
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Just because you’ve broken out the red wine doesn’t mean 4.15pm is the evening. :-P
We got dressed up in coloured wigs to pick up my grandson from school this afternoon. Some of the parents were a bit concerned with the bright pink and bright yellow hair and John Lennon sunglasses. We had a disco party at home with nibblie as a surprise afternoon event and those outfits were definitely part of the dress code.
Even had some glow stick , a mirror ball and disco lights swirling patterns on the ceiling.
Ha :)
A few typos there but I am typing without my glasses on..
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:So you still support Elon and Trump. Good to know.
You and Science ought to get together as you both jump to ridiculous conclusions for the slimiest of reasons. Sorry, but your basic and ill considered views do not show either of you in a very favorable light.
At least everybody doesn’t hate me and consider me a troll.
It is a badge of honor to be thought so in current company. I said in another post that I don’t read many posts here these days and I am pleased to say I ignore around 60% of them which makes for a more pleasant read and far more enlightening.
monkey skipper said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
monkey skipper said:
Good evening, folks.
Just because you’ve broken out the red wine doesn’t mean 4.15pm is the evening. :-P
We got dressed up in coloured wigs to pick up my grandson from school this afternoon. Some of the parents were a bit concerned with the bright pink and bright yellow hair and John Lennon sunglasses. We had a disco party at home with nibblie as a surprise afternoon event and those outfits were definitely part of the dress code.
Even had some glow stick , a mirror ball and disco lights swirling patterns on the ceiling.
Sounds like fun.
Getting a spot of rain in the pearl, and the smell of petrichor is strong.
Peak Warming Man said:
Getting a spot of rain in the pearl, and the smell of petrichor is strong.
It’s a pleasing aroma.
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:So you still support Elon and Trump. Good to know.
You and Science ought to get together as you both jump to ridiculous conclusions for the slimiest of reasons. Sorry, but your basic and ill considered views do not show either of you in a very favorable light.
At least everybody doesn’t hate me and consider me a troll.
I love you Witty…
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:You and Science ought to get together as you both jump to ridiculous conclusions for the slimiest of reasons. Sorry, but your basic and ill considered views do not show either of you in a very favorable light.
At least everybody doesn’t hate me and consider me a troll.
It is a badge of honor to be thought so in current company. I said in another post that I don’t read many posts here these days and I am pleased to say I ignore around 60% of them which makes for a more pleasant read and far more enlightening.
Yeah ‘cos everyone else is wrong and it couldn’t have anything to do with your narcissistic personality which leaves you disrespected and friendless on the forum and in real life.
Smell of fresh cut wet grass this end, mingling with spring blossoms.
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:You and Science ought to get together as you both jump to ridiculous conclusions for the slimiest of reasons. Sorry, but your basic and ill considered views do not show either of you in a very favorable light.
At least everybody doesn’t hate me and consider me a troll.
It is a badge of honor to be thought so in current company. I said in another post that I don’t read many posts here these days and I am pleased to say I ignore around 60% of them which makes for a more pleasant read and far more enlightening.
Bubblecar said:
Smell of fresh cut wet grass this end, mingling with spring blossoms.
Get that around here too.
Bubblecar said:
Smell of fresh cut wet grass this end, mingling with spring blossoms.
the lawn was cut and the lawn sprayed for bindiis and then it rained oh well… in other news the lotas seeds germinated in my backyard clay pot , now .. I am waiting for some buds and flowers to develop,,
we miss the kii contributions aha
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
Smell of fresh cut wet grass this end, mingling with spring blossoms.
the lawn was cut and the lawn sprayed for bindiis and then it rained oh well… in other news the lotas seeds germinated in my backyard clay pot , now .. I am waiting for some buds and flowers to develop,,

Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:At least everybody doesn’t hate me and consider me a troll.
It is a badge of honor to be thought so in current company. I said in another post that I don’t read many posts here these days and I am pleased to say I ignore around 60% of them which makes for a more pleasant read and far more enlightening.
Yeah ‘cos everyone else is wrong and it couldn’t have anything to do with your narcissistic personality which leaves you disrespected and friendless on the forum and in real life.
I have never commented much on anything other than a few topics, unlike many others here that have an expert opinion about everything. In this instance I have been through the entire process from being told/threatened to do or allow certain things to happen to direct consultation with those responsible for them, to upper management and the ombudsman on FOUR separate occasions. Each one taken months and considerable research and correspondence, which I think makes me somewhat knowledgeable on the subject.
I might be disrespectful because I get a certain number of fuckwits here who go out of their way to be troublesome and frankly, I do not have the patience to deal with their antics and have the habit of giving as good as I get and for some reason you don’t like getting it back. Well like Elon, I don’t bloody care, as you are just not important to me!
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
Smell of fresh cut wet grass this end, mingling with spring blossoms.
the lawn was cut and the lawn sprayed for bindiis and then it rained oh well… in other news the lotas seeds germinated in my backyard clay pot , now .. I am waiting for some buds and flowers to develop,,
Once I get some more mature plants i will be dividing the plants and adding some more lotus filled pots to the garden , apprently the flowers are very fragrant and colourful
Tau.Neutrino said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:At least everybody doesn’t hate me and consider me a troll.
It is a badge of honor to be thought so in current company. I said in another post that I don’t read many posts here these days and I am pleased to say I ignore around 60% of them which makes for a more pleasant read and far more enlightening.
Threatening people a badge of honour too?
You threatening me? Or maybe I have threatened you? I have no idea.
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:It is a badge of honor to be thought so in current company. I said in another post that I don’t read many posts here these days and I am pleased to say I ignore around 60% of them which makes for a more pleasant read and far more enlightening.
Yeah ‘cos everyone else is wrong and it couldn’t have anything to do with your narcissistic personality which leaves you disrespected and friendless on the forum and in real life.
I have never commented much on anything other than a few topics, unlike many others here that have an expert opinion about everything. In this instance I have been through the entire process from being told/threatened to do or allow certain things to happen to direct consultation with those responsible for them, to upper management and the ombudsman on FOUR separate occasions. Each one taken months and considerable research and correspondence, which I think makes me somewhat knowledgeable on the subject.
I might be disrespectful because I get a certain number of fuckwits here who go out of their way to be troublesome and frankly, I do not have the patience to deal with their antics and have the habit of giving as good as I get and for some reason you don’t like getting it back. Well like Elon, I don’t bloody care, as you are just not important to me!
You literally didn’t understand how El Nino worked. God knows what else you don’t understand about topics you claim to be an expert in.
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:the lawn was cut and the lawn sprayed for bindiis and then it rained oh well… in other news the lotas seeds germinated in my backyard clay pot , now .. I am waiting for some buds and flowers to develop,,
Once I get some more mature plants i will be dividing the plants and adding some more lotus filled pots to the garden , apprently the flowers are very fragrant and colourful
And lotus root is edible.
Michael V said:
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
Once I get some more mature plants i will be dividing the plants and adding some more lotus filled pots to the garden , apprently the flowers are very fragrant and colourful
And lotus root is edible.
cool
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
dv said:Just to fact check meself, the Birdseye fish fingers are 636 kJ a pop ie 7632 kJ for a dozen.See I could probably eat a dozen in a meal (and have never and will never purge) but I’m currently maintaining my weight on ~5000 kJ per day (yes, I’m a midget).
I doubt I could eat a dozen.
If it’s our main meal for the day, we eat 5 each (with salad or veg)
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Yeah ‘cos everyone else is wrong and it couldn’t have anything to do with your narcissistic personality which leaves you disrespected and friendless on the forum and in real life.
I have never commented much on anything other than a few topics, unlike many others here that have an expert opinion about everything. In this instance I have been through the entire process from being told/threatened to do or allow certain things to happen to direct consultation with those responsible for them, to upper management and the ombudsman on FOUR separate occasions. Each one taken months and considerable research and correspondence, which I think makes me somewhat knowledgeable on the subject.
I might be disrespectful because I get a certain number of fuckwits here who go out of their way to be troublesome and frankly, I do not have the patience to deal with their antics and have the habit of giving as good as I get and for some reason you don’t like getting it back. Well like Elon, I don’t bloody care, as you are just not important to me!
You literally didn’t understand how El Nino worked. God knows what else you don’t understand about topics you claim to be an expert in.
It is a lot more complicated that you with your simplistic views to grasp. You are one of the fuckwits to which I refer. You in turn are supported and encouraged by dv along with a few other weak-willed people that he cultivates both past and present. I have stupidly wasted years trying to become a useful member of this form and have been met time and time again by people like you with the same or similar backers. I decided not to try anymore, but to just pop in now and again to find out things I have missed via my own investigations, only to be commonly incensed by stupid posts and attitudes from certain people. If only they could see yourselves! It is like going away from everyone for several weeks, but when you return you notice the simplicity and stupidness of it all, which what this forum is like in many respects.
diddly-squat said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:You and Science ought to get together as you both jump to ridiculous conclusions for the slimiest of reasons. Sorry, but your basic and ill considered views do not show either of you in a very favorable light.
At least everybody doesn’t hate me and consider me a troll.
I love you Witty…
O…kay…
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:I have never commented much on anything other than a few topics, unlike many others here that have an expert opinion about everything. In this instance I have been through the entire process from being told/threatened to do or allow certain things to happen to direct consultation with those responsible for them, to upper management and the ombudsman on FOUR separate occasions. Each one taken months and considerable research and correspondence, which I think makes me somewhat knowledgeable on the subject.
I might be disrespectful because I get a certain number of fuckwits here who go out of their way to be troublesome and frankly, I do not have the patience to deal with their antics and have the habit of giving as good as I get and for some reason you don’t like getting it back. Well like Elon, I don’t bloody care, as you are just not important to me!
You literally didn’t understand how El Nino worked. God knows what else you don’t understand about topics you claim to be an expert in.
It is a lot more complicated that you with your simplistic views to grasp. You are one of the fuckwits to which I refer. You in turn are supported and encouraged by dv along with a few other weak-willed people that he cultivates both past and present. I have stupidly wasted years trying to become a useful member of this form and have been met time and time again by people like you with the same or similar backers. I decided not to try anymore, but to just pop in now and again to find out things I have missed via my own investigations, only to be commonly incensed by stupid posts and attitudes from certain people. If only they could see yourselves! It is like going away from everyone for several weeks, but when you return you notice the simplicity and stupidness of it all, which what this forum is like in many respects.
Yes dear.
Coles truck is here but seemingly delivering to my eastern neighbour first.
Now parked at my place. Name: Gero again.
The No. 1 Breaker in the World Is … Raygun?
The Australian breaker who was mocked at the Olympics for her kangaroo-hopping routine is now atop the official world rankings. Here’s how it happened.
By Victor Mather
Sept. 11, 2024
The breaker known as Raygun did terribly at the Olympics, losing all three of her head-to-head battles, each by scores of 18-0. Her unusual routines also made her an unexpected face of the Paris Games and earned her mockery worldwide.
But she did receive one accolade this week. Somehow, improbably, B-girl Raygun — yes, the same Raygun who hopped like a kangaroo in her Olympic routines — is now the No. 1 ranked women’s breaker in the world.
Raygun is the nom de break of Dr. Rachael Gunn, a 37-year-old professor from Australia. While other Olympic breakers spun dazzlingly on their heads and backs in this year’s Games, Raygun thrashed about on her side, reached for her toes, and hopped around in a salute to the kangaroos of her native country. Fans around the world, many being exposed to breaking competition for the first time as the sport made its Olympic debut, were baffled, amused, and in some cases outraged.
Raygun’s total score of 0 points put her in last place among the 16 breakers in the main Olympic competition.
So, in the latest world rankings, how could Raygun be in the No. 1 spot? After receiving a barrage of questions, the World DanceSport Federation, which oversees the sport internationally, released a statement Tuesday explaining the seeming incongruity.
The ranking is based on events over the past year, the federation explained. During that time, the majority of breakers were focused on qualifying for the Olympics.
But because they have limited fields with a small number of competitors, Olympic qualifying events and the Olympics themselves do not count toward the world rankings. Therefore, Raygun’s low-scoring performance at the Games did not hurt her ranking at all.
Further complicating the rankings, there were hardly any events in the last 52 weeks that weren’t Olympic qualifiers. The federation said that no official breaking events were held in 2024 before the Olympics, to allow “athletes to focus solely on the last part of their Olympic qualification without the added pressure of additional ranking events.”
For Raygun, her only ranked competition in that time period was the Oceania Continental Championships in Sydney in October 2023. She won that event, which was hardly of international importance. Of the top 15 finishers, 13 were from Australia and two from New Zealand. It was not a strong field: Raygun, the winner, had finished 64th at the world championships the month prior.
(In fact, the Oceania event itself caused a stir after Raygun’s performance at the Olympics. The Australian federation released a statement after the Games saying to respond to speculation about her win at that event: “Contrary to circulating misinformation, Dr. Gunn’s husband, Raygun’s coach, was not a member of the selection panel or judging committee. This would have constituted a conflict of interest.”)
Raygun got 1,000 points in the world rankings for that win. Riko Tsuhako of Japan also had 1,000 points, from a victory in a World Series event with a stronger field of competitors from all over the world. But the ranking rules state that continental championships take precedence over World Series events. Thus, Raygun won the tiebreaker and got the No. 1 spot.
Dr. Gunn is a lecturer at Macquarie University in Sydney, where her research interests include “breaking, street dance, and hip-hop culture,” and the “politics of gender and gender performance.” After the Olympics, she received a deluge of criticism, with her dancing style and even her uniform — green track pants and a polo shirt — being mocked.
“I’m glad I was able to bring some joy into your lives,” she said in a video on social media. “I didn’t realize that would also open the door to so much hate, which has frankly been pretty devastating.”
Raygun seemed to be bouncing back from the hate, posting photos of herself smiling and laughing with Richard Branson and Boy George.
Raygun’s Oceania victory will drop out of the rankings next month when it become a year old, and she will tumble way down the charts. But for now, Raygun, green track pants, kangaroo hops and all, is looking down from the No. 1 spot at every other breaker in the world.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/11/sports/raygun-breaking-ranking-number-one.html?
Bubblecar said:
Now parked at my place. Name: Gero again.
You been peering out from behind the curtains again?
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Now parked at my place. Name: Gero again.
You been peering out from behind the curtains again?
He even put on pants.
PermeateFree said:
I think all the numb-nuts join the fire brigade, because when I had a fire here a few years back (lit I suspect by one of their members), they proved to be environmental vandals.
———A few minutes later……
People like you with your extreme and irresponsible character assassinations of everyone who does not hold your views is what causes much turmoil in the world and collectively can lead to much worse.
lol
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Now parked at my place. Name: Gero again.
You been peering out from behind the curtains again?
I had the front doors boldly swung asunder to welcome my Coles delivering angel.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
See I could probably eat a dozen in a meal (and have never and will never purge) but I’m currently maintaining my weight on ~5000 kJ per day (yes, I’m a midget).
I doubt I could eat a dozen.
If it’s our main meal for the day, we eat 5 each (with salad or veg)
That seems a more sensible number.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Now parked at my place. Name: Gero again.
You been peering out from behind the curtains again?
I had the front doors boldly swung asunder to welcome my Coles delivering angel.
Explanation: I have a double front door.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:You been peering out from behind the curtains again?
I had the front doors boldly swung asunder to welcome my Coles delivering angel.
Explanation: I have a double front door.
Sounds like you’re in dire need of a footman,
The highest by BMI ever reached was 36, and was very inconvenienced by osteoarthritis. I did plan to get it within the nominal range, ie under 25, but around 27 I kind of got regimen fatigue and said “that’ll do, pig”. Merely being a fatty rather than a tankard seemed a respectable compromise. I’ve been up and down in that overweight category since then, getting exercise and mainly making reasonable dietary choices, but it’s currently 29.2, so I’m going to have another bash now and hopefully keep the weight off this time, just to maximise the probability of having another 30 years of kissing my family and making memes.
I see that The King and Queen will be meeting my daughter.
dv said:
The highest by BMI ever reached was 36, and was very inconvenienced by osteoarthritis. I did plan to get it within the nominal range, ie under 25, but around 27 I kind of got regimen fatigue and said “that’ll do, pig”. Merely being a fatty rather than a tankard seemed a respectable compromise. I’ve been up and down in that overweight category since then, getting exercise and mainly making reasonable dietary choices, but it’s currently 29.2, so I’m going to have another bash now and hopefully keep the weight off this time, just to maximise the probability of having another 30 years of kissing my family and making memes.Or die…

Saveloy
what’s wrong with 29 of sarcomeres
OCDC said:
dv said:IBYSWIDT.The highest by BMI ever reached was 36, and was very inconvenienced by osteoarthritis. I did plan to get it within the nominal range, ie under 25, but around 27 I kind of got regimen fatigue and said “that’ll do, pig”. Merely being a fatty rather than a tankard seemed a respectable compromise. I’ve been up and down in that overweight category since then, getting exercise and mainly making reasonable dietary choices, but it’s currently 29.2, so I’m going to have another bash now and hopefully keep the weight off this time, just to maximise the probability of having another 30 years of kissing my family and making memes.Or die…
dv said:
The highest by BMI ever reached was 36, and was very inconvenienced by osteoarthritis. I did plan to get it within the nominal range, ie under 25, but around 27 I kind of got regimen fatigue and said “that’ll do, pig”. Merely being a fatty rather than a tankard seemed a respectable compromise. I’ve been up and down in that overweight category since then, getting exercise and mainly making reasonable dietary choices, but it’s currently 29.2, so I’m going to have another bash now and hopefully keep the weight off this time, just to maximise the probability of having another 30 years of kissing my family and making memes.
Good for you.
Even more serious for me at my age with a wonky heart and 130kg+. Going to have to get deadly serious soon.
I don’t get fish finger/sticks. maybe it’s because I don’t really like processed crumbed things, or maybe it’s because I’m spoiled with fresh fish .. but I find them like eating cardboard.
however the same can be said for chicken nuggets, those gross little red sausages and almost anything with questionable ingredients…
I am slowly turning around on cauliflower though and starting to make pizza bases and other things with cauliflower that aren’t too bad.
roughbarked said:
I see that The King and Queen will be meeting my daughter.
Good lord, a rare honour for them indeed. Send their people some notes on protocol.
Arts said:
I don’t get fish finger/sticks. maybe it’s because I don’t really like processed crumbed things, or maybe it’s because I’m spoiled with fresh fish .. but I find them like eating cardboard.Do your bases crisp up enough that you can eat a slice of pizza without losing the toppings due to flaccidity?however the same can be said for chicken nuggets, those gross little red sausages and almost anything with questionable ingredients…
I am slowly turning around on cauliflower though and starting to make pizza bases and other things with cauliflower that aren’t too bad.
OCDC said:
dv said:The highest by BMI ever reached was 36, and was very inconvenienced by osteoarthritis. I did plan to get it within the nominal range, ie under 25, but around 27 I kind of got regimen fatigue and said “that’ll do, pig”. Merely being a fatty rather than a tankard seemed a respectable compromise. I’ve been up and down in that overweight category since then, getting exercise and mainly making reasonable dietary choices, but it’s currently 29.2, so I’m going to have another bash now and hopefully keep the weight off this time, just to maximise the probability of having another 30 years of kissing my family and making memes.Or die…
Nice ref
Kingy said:
PermeateFree said:I think all the numb-nuts join the fire brigade, because when I had a fire here a few years back (lit I suspect by one of their members), they proved to be environmental vandals.
———A few minutes later……
People like you with your extreme and irresponsible character assassinations of everyone who does not hold your views is what causes much turmoil in the world and collectively can lead to much worse.
lol
The difference is what I said was true, rarely are the character assignations carried out here also true but are stated by twisted narcissistic individuals. As for yourself Kingy, you seem very well suited to your liking for burning and knocking down native vegetation. They will probably give you a medal.
Can someone please tell the muscles around the front of my ribcage that I am not listening to their complaining. Also the ones in the back of the top of my legs. I may have spent too much time bent over weeding today, but that is no excuse for them to complain.
buffy said:
Can someone please tell the muscles around the front of my ribcage that I am not listening to their complaining. Also the ones in the back of the top of my legs. I may have spent too much time bent over weeding today, but that is no excuse for them to complain.
Buffy’s muscles: you are wasting your time and money, she is completely ignoring you.
RangerJudy 1h
September 12: Lady was disturbed early as a possum passed close by, then off early. There was an early duet and SE34 joined in too. Dad brought a leatherjacket at 7:46 – the nestlings were slow to respond, but both ate. He later brought a very bloody gull chick at 9:18, SE33 ate first, then 34, but 34 also moved in and grabbed a few times. Then soon after just after 10am he brought part of a fish – the eagles both left, but returned shortly after and Lady ate a bit, offered a bit, but little interest. Again she came at 12:40 and offered last fish leftovers – 33 ate more. It was a windy afternoon and a little rain started around 5pm – Lady coming to the nest to shelter them. Then at last light again, Dad brought in a live juvenile gull-grabbed by Lady and taken to de-feather, before returning to feed the nestlings a little.
OCDC said:
Arts said:I don’t get fish finger/sticks. maybe it’s because I don’t really like processed crumbed things, or maybe it’s because I’m spoiled with fresh fish .. but I find them like eating cardboard.Do your bases crisp up enough that you can eat a slice of pizza without losing the toppings due to flaccidity?however the same can be said for chicken nuggets, those gross little red sausages and almost anything with questionable ingredients…
I am slowly turning around on cauliflower though and starting to make pizza bases and other things with cauliflower that aren’t too bad.
yes, I do use a pizza dish that has ventilation holes.. I don’t have a problem with them… actually I prefer those to normal pizza dough as they don’t make me feel so bloated afterwards
Arts said:
OCDC said:Recipe pls.Arts said:yes, I do use a pizza dish that has ventilation holes.. I don’t have a problem with them… actually I prefer those to normal pizza dough as they don’t make me feel so bloated afterwardsI don’t get fish finger/sticks. maybe it’s because I don’t really like processed crumbed things, or maybe it’s because I’m spoiled with fresh fish .. but I find them like eating cardboard.Do your bases crisp up enough that you can eat a slice of pizza without losing the toppings due to flaccidity?however the same can be said for chicken nuggets, those gross little red sausages and almost anything with questionable ingredients…
I am slowly turning around on cauliflower though and starting to make pizza bases and other things with cauliflower that aren’t too bad.
OCDC said:
Arts said:OCDC said:Recipe pls.Do your bases crisp up enough that you can eat a slice of pizza without losing the toppings due to flaccidity?yes, I do use a pizza dish that has ventilation holes.. I don’t have a problem with them… actually I prefer those to normal pizza dough as they don’t make me feel so bloated afterwards
It really the same as most recipes using egg and cheese as the binder (add in salt and some herbs) .. I have found that the secret to a good base is how well you squeeze the cauliflower rice through the cheesecloth.. you have to put some muscle into it. My first few goes were disastrous – but when you really take the time to make sure the cauliflower rice is well squished and is really dry.. that makes the difference
dv said:
roughbarked said:
I see that The King and Queen will be meeting my daughter.
Good lord, a rare honour for them indeed. Send their people some notes on protocol.
:)
Arts said:
OCDC said:Ta.Arts said:It really the same as most recipes using egg and cheese as the binder (add in salt and some herbs) .. I have found that the secret to a good base is how well you squeeze the cauliflower rice through the cheesecloth.. you have to put some muscle into it. My first few goes were disastrous – but when you really take the time to make sure the cauliflower rice is well squished and is really dry.. that makes the differenceyes, I do use a pizza dish that has ventilation holes.. I don’t have a problem with them… actually I prefer those to normal pizza dough as they don’t make me feel so bloated afterwardsRecipe pls.
We’re making a start.


Kingy said:
We’re making a start.
Looks like a nice piece of bush that is in no need of burning.
PermeateFree said:
Kingy said:
We’re making a start.
Looks like a nice piece of bush that is in no need of burning.
Yet, it seems to burn most vigourously. I understand that it’s often considered advisable that some accumulations of natural fuel should burn while under observation, ratherthan leave them to perhaps ignite unseen.
PermeateFree said:
Kingy said:
We’re making a start.
Looks like a nice piece of bush that is in no need of burning.
How much would you have to be paid to change your mind?
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:
Kingy said:
We’re making a start.
Looks like a nice piece of bush that is in no need of burning.
Yet, it seems to burn most vigourously. I understand that it’s often considered advisable that some accumulations of natural fuel should burn while under observation, ratherthan leave them to perhaps ignite unseen.
That is the nature of grasstrees, but those are quite small and well-spaced, and you can see some orchids growing between them plus good leaf litter that is ideal from small animals like skinks and invertebrates, in fact a pleasant little ecosystem.
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Kingy said:
We’re making a start.
Looks like a nice piece of bush that is in no need of burning.
How much would you have to be paid to change your mind?
Stop trying to play the Aborigine as you are nothing like them and I would think they would be ashamed to know you. It is people like you that have destroyed so much of this country for the sake of money.
PermeateFree said:
That is the nature of grasstrees, but those are quite small and well-spaced, and you can see some orchids growing between them plus good leaf litter that is ideal from small animals like skinks and invertebrates, in fact a pleasant little ecosystem.
I was, just the other day, marvelling at a particular small area of bushland, and contemplating on how it must be the entire world to the various creatures that inhabited it, but that it was such a fragile existence, with the whole environment at risk of sudden destruction.
I suppose that that’s what the controlled burn programme is meant to achieve. It may mean ruin for some smaller worlds, but with the aim of preserving many more such places, and larger environments as well, from the widespread destruction of uncontrolled fires..
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:Looks like a nice piece of bush that is in no need of burning.
How much would you have to be paid to change your mind?
Stop trying to play the Aborigine as you are nothing like them and I would think they would be ashamed to know you. It is people like you that have destroyed so much of this country for the sake of money.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? You’re the one who admires Elon ‘cos he’s rich.
I have been looking through some old photos of the forum, trying to find some of the Tesla coil (which I did). in the mean time some of various forumites from years ago when they were just young whippersnappers…
Arts said:
I have been looking through some old photos of the forum, trying to find some of the Tesla coil (which I did). in the mean time some of various forumites from years ago when they were just young whippersnappers…
and you know where they live
Arts said:
I have been looking through some old photos of the forum, trying to find some of the Tesla coil (which I did). in the mean time some of various forumites from years ago when they were just young whippersnappers…
we were all younger then.
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:That is the nature of grasstrees, but those are quite small and well-spaced, and you can see some orchids growing between them plus good leaf litter that is ideal from small animals like skinks and invertebrates, in fact a pleasant little ecosystem.
I was, just the other day, marvelling at a particular small area of bushland, and contemplating on how it must be the entire world to the various creatures that inhabited it, but that it was such a fragile existence, with the whole environment at risk of sudden destruction.
I suppose that that’s what the controlled burn programme is meant to achieve. It may mean ruin for some smaller worlds, but with the aim of preserving many more such places, and larger environments as well, from the widespread destruction of uncontrolled fires..
When they need burning it can be a revitalising thing and very good for the habitat. But on the evidence of those two photos, they did not need to be burnt, perhaps it is different and denser elsewhere, or maybe just another exercise for them to practice upon. In which case burning in late Autumn might be a better and less damaging time to do it.
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:That is the nature of grasstrees, but those are quite small and well-spaced, and you can see some orchids growing between them plus good leaf litter that is ideal from small animals like skinks and invertebrates, in fact a pleasant little ecosystem.
I was, just the other day, marvelling at a particular small area of bushland, and contemplating on how it must be the entire world to the various creatures that inhabited it, but that it was such a fragile existence, with the whole environment at risk of sudden destruction.
I suppose that that’s what the controlled burn programme is meant to achieve. It may mean ruin for some smaller worlds, but with the aim of preserving many more such places, and larger environments as well, from the widespread destruction of uncontrolled fires..
When they need burning it can be a revitalising thing and very good for the habitat. But on the evidence of those two photos, they did not need to be burnt, perhaps it is different and denser elsewhere, or maybe just another exercise for them to practice upon. In which case burning in late Autumn might be a better and less damaging time to do it.
There’s more willingness to consult with indigenous experts these days, is there not, and to incorporate their advice into such programmes? That should be helpful, given that such input is the sum of the experience of hundreds of generations.
Hopefully, such benefits are now or are becoming more widely felt.
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:How much would you have to be paid to change your mind?
Stop trying to play the Aborigine as you are nothing like them and I would think they would be ashamed to know you. It is people like you that have destroyed so much of this country for the sake of money.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? You’re the one who admires Elon ‘cos he’s rich.
Another of your rather silly and dishonest ways of putting words into people’s mouths and then trying to burn them down. I have never said I admire Elon because he is rich, only I admire him for what he has achieved, although I wouldn’t say no to some extra money from him or anyone else, especially if it annoyed your dumb concept of life and the way you see things.
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:Stop trying to play the Aborigine as you are nothing like them and I would think they would be ashamed to know you. It is people like you that have destroyed so much of this country for the sake of money.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? You’re the one who admires Elon ‘cos he’s rich.
Another of your rather silly and dishonest ways of putting words into people’s mouths and then trying to burn them down. I have never said I admire Elon because he is rich, only I admire him for what he has achieved, although I wouldn’t say no to some extra money from him or anyone else, especially if it annoyed your dumb concept of life and the way you see things.
Anything he’s achieved has been pissed up the wall in his foolhardy purchase of Twitter and his move to supporting the extreme right. You excuse his anti-semitism, racial bigotry, anti-environmentalism etc because he’s rich and that excites you. If you had any understanding of real Australians you’d understand how anathema Musk is to Australian values and you’d rightly condemn Musk for contributing to the shit-hole that the USA is becoming. Thankfully it won’t happen here despite the efforts from Johnny-come-latelys like you.
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:I was, just the other day, marvelling at a particular small area of bushland, and contemplating on how it must be the entire world to the various creatures that inhabited it, but that it was such a fragile existence, with the whole environment at risk of sudden destruction.
I suppose that that’s what the controlled burn programme is meant to achieve. It may mean ruin for some smaller worlds, but with the aim of preserving many more such places, and larger environments as well, from the widespread destruction of uncontrolled fires..
When they need burning it can be a revitalising thing and very good for the habitat. But on the evidence of those two photos, they did not need to be burnt, perhaps it is different and denser elsewhere, or maybe just another exercise for them to practice upon. In which case burning in late Autumn might be a better and less damaging time to do it.
There’s more willingness to consult with indigenous experts these days, is there not, and to incorporate their advice into such programmes? That should be helpful, given that such input is the sum of the experience of hundreds of generations.
Hopefully, such benefits are now or are becoming more widely felt.
That is true and there are many Aborigines that have and still do practice traditional ways, but like so much of their culture it does not apply to all as knowledge has been lost due to lost country and like so many things have not been practiced for many years.
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:
Kingy said:
We’re making a start.
Looks like a nice piece of bush that is in no need of burning.
Yet, it seems to burn most vigourously. I understand that it’s often considered advisable that some accumulations of natural fuel should burn while under observation, ratherthan leave them to perhaps ignite unseen.
It is advisable not to have fires burn vigorously.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:Looks like a nice piece of bush that is in no need of burning.
Yet, it seems to burn most vigourously. I understand that it’s often considered advisable that some accumulations of natural fuel should burn while under observation, ratherthan leave them to perhaps ignite unseen.
It is advisable not to have fires burn vigorously.
we have had quite a bit of rain up to around last week. so I would imagine most of the vege on the ground won’t be very dry.
JudgeMental said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:Yet, it seems to burn most vigourously. I understand that it’s often considered advisable that some accumulations of natural fuel should burn while under observation, ratherthan leave them to perhaps ignite unseen.
It is advisable not to have fires burn vigorously.
we have had quite a bit of rain up to around last week. so I would imagine most of the vege on the ground won’t be very dry.
But it is still not the best time of year to burn as a reduction burn. Certainly not the way the aboriginal practice dictates.
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
roughbarked said:It is advisable not to have fires burn vigorously.
we have had quite a bit of rain up to around last week. so I would imagine most of the vege on the ground won’t be very dry.
But it is still not the best time of year to burn as a reduction burn. Certainly not the way the aboriginal practice dictates.
been too wet for months.
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
roughbarked said:It is advisable not to have fires burn vigorously.
we have had quite a bit of rain up to around last week. so I would imagine most of the vege on the ground won’t be very dry.
But it is still not the best time of year to burn as a reduction burn. Certainly not the way the aboriginal practice dictates.
Bloody. Burn everything now, or cross your fingers and hope it doesn’t go uo in summer.
The alterntive is to graze goats (or similr approved) on every small patch of such land.
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:What the actual fuck are you talking about? You’re the one who admires Elon ‘cos he’s rich.
Another of your rather silly and dishonest ways of putting words into people’s mouths and then trying to burn them down. I have never said I admire Elon because he is rich, only I admire him for what he has achieved, although I wouldn’t say no to some extra money from him or anyone else, especially if it annoyed your dumb concept of life and the way you see things.
Anything he’s achieved has been pissed up the wall in his foolhardy purchase of Twitter and his move to supporting the extreme right. You excuse his anti-semitism, racial bigotry, anti-environmentalism etc because he’s rich and that excites you. If you had any understanding of real Australians you’d understand how anathema Musk is to Australian values and you’d rightly condemn Musk for contributing to the shit-hole that the USA is becoming. Thankfully it won’t happen here despite the efforts from Johnny-come-latelys like you.
You are just so stupid, yet again putting your silly assumptions into other people’s mouths. Twitter or X is just a small part of his business interests, and he can well afford to lose it, although that is most unlikely to happen, but he is not reliant upon its success. I don’t excuse anything about Elon Musk, he is his own man (which is a lot than I could say for you) and he believes in free speech and is prepared to pay the consequences of his actions, which I might add is his choice. He is not anti-environment or the other things you accuse him of, he just does not see the need to fall into the left or right-wing logic that you must agree with their entire policy no matter dumb, illogical, or biased their views and actions are. And his money means nothing to me but seems a very just reward for what he has achieved.
As for being a Johnny-come-lately, I have probably been here longer than you have been alive, and via my studies, initiative and extensive experience would know a bloody sight more than you about this country. It is people like you that have butchered this place for personal gain and greed, you have largely wiped out and otherwise treated appallingly a culture that has been here for 65,000 years as compared to our measly 250 years, and where our heroic Australians have in their arrogant way, thought themselves far superior and have regardless pillaged everything of use, largely because they are too damn ignorant to appreciate what the country has to offer.
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:Another of your rather silly and dishonest ways of putting words into people’s mouths and then trying to burn them down. I have never said I admire Elon because he is rich, only I admire him for what he has achieved, although I wouldn’t say no to some extra money from him or anyone else, especially if it annoyed your dumb concept of life and the way you see things.
Anything he’s achieved has been pissed up the wall in his foolhardy purchase of Twitter and his move to supporting the extreme right. You excuse his anti-semitism, racial bigotry, anti-environmentalism etc because he’s rich and that excites you. If you had any understanding of real Australians you’d understand how anathema Musk is to Australian values and you’d rightly condemn Musk for contributing to the shit-hole that the USA is becoming. Thankfully it won’t happen here despite the efforts from Johnny-come-latelys like you.
You are just so stupid, yet again putting your silly assumptions into other people’s mouths. Twitter or X is just a small part of his business interests, and he can well afford to lose it, although that is most unlikely to happen, but he is not reliant upon its success. I don’t excuse anything about Elon Musk, he is his own man (which is a lot than I could say for you) and he believes in free speech and is prepared to pay the consequences of his actions, which I might add is his choice. He is not anti-environment or the other things you accuse him of, he just does not see the need to fall into the left or right-wing logic that you must agree with their entire policy no matter dumb, illogical, or biased their views and actions are. And his money means nothing to me but seems a very just reward for what he has achieved.
As for being a Johnny-come-lately, I have probably been here longer than you have been alive, and via my studies, initiative and extensive experience would know a bloody sight more than you about this country. It is people like you that have butchered this place for personal gain and greed, you have largely wiped out and otherwise treated appallingly a culture that has been here for 65,000 years as compared to our measly 250 years, and where our heroic Australians have in their arrogant way, thought themselves far superior and have regardless pillaged everything of use, largely because they are too damn ignorant to appreciate what the country has to offer.
Hah. I knew you weren’t born here.
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Anything he’s achieved has been pissed up the wall in his foolhardy purchase of Twitter and his move to supporting the extreme right. You excuse his anti-semitism, racial bigotry, anti-environmentalism etc because he’s rich and that excites you. If you had any understanding of real Australians you’d understand how anathema Musk is to Australian values and you’d rightly condemn Musk for contributing to the shit-hole that the USA is becoming. Thankfully it won’t happen here despite the efforts from Johnny-come-latelys like you.
You are just so stupid, yet again putting your silly assumptions into other people’s mouths. Twitter or X is just a small part of his business interests, and he can well afford to lose it, although that is most unlikely to happen, but he is not reliant upon its success. I don’t excuse anything about Elon Musk, he is his own man (which is a lot than I could say for you) and he believes in free speech and is prepared to pay the consequences of his actions, which I might add is his choice. He is not anti-environment or the other things you accuse him of, he just does not see the need to fall into the left or right-wing logic that you must agree with their entire policy no matter dumb, illogical, or biased their views and actions are. And his money means nothing to me but seems a very just reward for what he has achieved.
As for being a Johnny-come-lately, I have probably been here longer than you have been alive, and via my studies, initiative and extensive experience would know a bloody sight more than you about this country. It is people like you that have butchered this place for personal gain and greed, you have largely wiped out and otherwise treated appallingly a culture that has been here for 65,000 years as compared to our measly 250 years, and where our heroic Australians have in their arrogant way, thought themselves far superior and have regardless pillaged everything of use, largely because they are too damn ignorant to appreciate what the country has to offer.
Hah. I knew you weren’t born here.
I have never made that a secret and it is probably why I can see the stupidity of many of the things that have been done here.
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:You are just so stupid, yet again putting your silly assumptions into other people’s mouths. Twitter or X is just a small part of his business interests, and he can well afford to lose it, although that is most unlikely to happen, but he is not reliant upon its success. I don’t excuse anything about Elon Musk, he is his own man (which is a lot than I could say for you) and he believes in free speech and is prepared to pay the consequences of his actions, which I might add is his choice. He is not anti-environment or the other things you accuse him of, he just does not see the need to fall into the left or right-wing logic that you must agree with their entire policy no matter dumb, illogical, or biased their views and actions are. And his money means nothing to me but seems a very just reward for what he has achieved.
As for being a Johnny-come-lately, I have probably been here longer than you have been alive, and via my studies, initiative and extensive experience would know a bloody sight more than you about this country. It is people like you that have butchered this place for personal gain and greed, you have largely wiped out and otherwise treated appallingly a culture that has been here for 65,000 years as compared to our measly 250 years, and where our heroic Australians have in their arrogant way, thought themselves far superior and have regardless pillaged everything of use, largely because they are too damn ignorant to appreciate what the country has to offer.
Hah. I knew you weren’t born here.
I have never made that a secret and it is probably why I can see the stupidity of many of the things that have been done here.
Yeah right. As I said you’re not a real Australian so wouldn’t understand the first thing about how this country works.
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Hah. I knew you weren’t born here.
I have never made that a secret and it is probably why I can see the stupidity of many of the things that have been done here.
Yeah right. As I said you’re not a real Australian so wouldn’t understand the first thing about how this country works.
Yet another Stupid Boy!
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:I have never made that a secret and it is probably why I can see the stupidity of many of the things that have been done here.
Yeah right. As I said you’re not a real Australian so wouldn’t understand the first thing about how this country works.
Yet another Stupid Boy!
And if you weren’t such a moron you’d know I’m roughly 10 years older than you.
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Yeah right. As I said you’re not a real Australian so wouldn’t understand the first thing about how this country works.
Yet another Stupid Boy!
And if you weren’t such a moron you’d know I’m roughly 10 years older than you.
I bet. You stupid boy.
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:Yet another Stupid Boy!
And if you weren’t such a moron you’d know I’m roughly 10 years older than you.
I bet. You stupid boy.
Hah. Come back again in a couple of months once you’ve recovered from looking like such a fool today.
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:And if you weren’t such a moron you’d know I’m roughly 10 years older than you.
I bet. You stupid boy.
Hah. Come back again in a couple of months once you’ve recovered from looking like such a fool today.
SB.
PermeateFree said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
PermeateFree said:I bet. You stupid boy.
Hah. Come back again in a couple of months once you’ve recovered from looking like such a fool today.
SB.
Better than a JCL.
Home is the pyromaniac furry critter killer,
Home from the hill.
Ok, so we mosaic burnt 3 out of 4 grasstrees, stopped any running fire in the undergrowth, scorch height was less than 2m, and there are three crews going out in the morning, midday and arvo to ensure that nothing smouldering gets away. The fuel load on the top of the ridge has been reduced, and we now have a chance of stopping a bushfire that approaches the crest, and nearly all the little critters have a home to go to.
It was very much like an indigenous hazard reduction burn.
But what would I know, I’ve just been doing this for decades, completing many(a lot of) training courses, and learning from the indigenous people that have been doing this for millennia.
I’m sure someone with fuck all experience will come along soon to correct me, but ok.
Kingy said:
Ok, so we mosaic burnt 3 out of 4 grasstrees, stopped any running fire in the undergrowth, scorch height was less than 2m, and there are three crews going out in the morning, midday and arvo to ensure that nothing smouldering gets away. The fuel load on the top of the ridge has been reduced, and we now have a chance of stopping a bushfire that approaches the crest, and nearly all the little critters have a home to go to.It was very much like an indigenous hazard reduction burn.
But what would I know, I’ve just been doing this for decades, completing many(a lot of) training courses, and learning from the indigenous people that have been doing this for millennia.
I’m sure someone with fuck all experience will come along soon to correct me, but ok.
Well for my part, I have owned three bush properties and have practiced annual mosaic burning over all of them. I have also written a couple of papers concerning Aboriginal firestick management with comparison to European methods of fuel reduction. Both methods are quite different with different outcomes.
PermeateFree said:
Kingy said:
Ok, so we mosaic burnt 3 out of 4 grasstrees, stopped any running fire in the undergrowth, scorch height was less than 2m, and there are three crews going out in the morning, midday and arvo to ensure that nothing smouldering gets away. The fuel load on the top of the ridge has been reduced, and we now have a chance of stopping a bushfire that approaches the crest, and nearly all the little critters have a home to go to.It was very much like an indigenous hazard reduction burn.
But what would I know, I’ve just been doing this for decades, completing many(a lot of) training courses, and learning from the indigenous people that have been doing this for millennia.
I’m sure someone with fuck all experience will come along soon to correct me, but ok.
Well for my part, I have owned three bush properties and have practiced annual mosaic burning over all of them. I have also written a couple of papers concerning Aboriginal firestick management with comparison to European methods of fuel reduction. Both methods are quite different with different outcomes.
And there we are.
Three properties. Wow. You are so learned. I bow to your knowledge which is so much better than my hundreds of fire calls to deal with properties on fire, hundreds of hazard reduction burns, and nearly a hundred training courses about fire management.If I were to try to teach you about fire management, it would cost more than you are worth just to teach you how wrong you are.
You could actually learn something if you listened to people who know what they are doing, but no, you just want to argue on the internet.
Kingy said:
PermeateFree said:
Kingy said:
Ok, so we mosaic burnt 3 out of 4 grasstrees, stopped any running fire in the undergrowth, scorch height was less than 2m, and there are three crews going out in the morning, midday and arvo to ensure that nothing smouldering gets away. The fuel load on the top of the ridge has been reduced, and we now have a chance of stopping a bushfire that approaches the crest, and nearly all the little critters have a home to go to.It was very much like an indigenous hazard reduction burn.
But what would I know, I’ve just been doing this for decades, completing many(a lot of) training courses, and learning from the indigenous people that have been doing this for millennia.
I’m sure someone with fuck all experience will come along soon to correct me, but ok.
Well for my part, I have owned three bush properties and have practiced annual mosaic burning over all of them. I have also written a couple of papers concerning Aboriginal firestick management with comparison to European methods of fuel reduction. Both methods are quite different with different outcomes.
And there we are.
Three properties. Wow. You are so learned. I bow to your knowledge which is so much better than my hundreds of fire calls to deal with properties on fire, hundreds of hazard reduction burns, and nearly a hundred training courses about fire management.If I were to try to teach you about fire management, it would cost more than you are worth just to teach you how wrong you are.
You could actually learn something if you listened to people who know what they are doing, but no, you just want to argue on the internet.
Like most people in your position, just because you light a lot of fires, it does not mean you know anything about Aboriginal Fire Management largely because your objective is different. You people create a lot of problems environmentally from burning at the wrong time to burning too much and a lot more besides. You like all the other fire chiefs I have encountered who might know a lot about burning the bush but know absolutely nothing about how to manage this country for the countries benefit and just repeat your mistakes year after year because it is you who do not know and will not listen.
PermeateFree said:
Kingy said:
PermeateFree said:Well for my part, I have owned three bush properties and have practiced annual mosaic burning over all of them. I have also written a couple of papers concerning Aboriginal firestick management with comparison to European methods of fuel reduction. Both methods are quite different with different outcomes.
And there we are.
Three properties. Wow. You are so learned. I bow to your knowledge which is so much better than my hundreds of fire calls to deal with properties on fire, hundreds of hazard reduction burns, and nearly a hundred training courses about fire management.If I were to try to teach you about fire management, it would cost more than you are worth just to teach you how wrong you are.
You could actually learn something if you listened to people who know what they are doing, but no, you just want to argue on the internet.
Like most people in your position, just because you light a lot of fires, it does not mean you know anything about Aboriginal Fire Management largely because your objective is different. You people create a lot of problems environmentally from burning at the wrong time to burning too much and a lot more besides. You like all the other fire chiefs I have encountered who might know a lot about burning the bush but know absolutely nothing about how to manage this country for the countries benefit and just repeat your mistakes year after year because it is you who do not know and will not listen.
https://natureitems.blogspot.com/2006/12/fire-management-european-verses.html
The above link is to a piece I wrote in one of my blogs 18 years ago. If you are really interested in learning the difference of what most fire brigades do and what Aborigines did along with their outcomes, I suggest you read it as you might actually learn something.
“Well for my part, I have owned three bush properties and have practiced annual mosaic burning over all of them. I have also written a couple of papers concerning Aboriginal firestick management with comparison to European methods of fuel reduction. Both methods are quite different with different outcomes. “
I have been more interested in how the need to fire stick farm the land became a need and there does seem to be a correlation between human habitation of Australia and the extinction of the grazing Mega Fauna as the spinifex grasses lost their major environmental control, lightning strikes would have been far more devasting when the Mega Fauna died out as the grasses would have been able to overgrow , providing an out of balance amount of fuel.
Learning how to control would have been part of a learning curve for indigenous Australians … through need and their own life preservation … it seems to me.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees at the back door and still dark. We are forecast 16 degrees with a shower or two.
Bruna has to go to the vet at 9.00am and after that I intend to mow the side of the walking track at the wetland reserve if the showers have held off.
monkey skipper said:
“Well for my part, I have owned three bush properties and have practiced annual mosaic burning over all of them. I have also written a couple of papers concerning Aboriginal firestick management with comparison to European methods of fuel reduction. Both methods are quite different with different outcomes. “I have been more interested in how the need to fire stick farm the land became a need and there does seem to be a correlation between human habitation of Australia and the extinction of the grazing Mega Fauna as the spinifex grasses lost their major environmental control, lightning strikes would have been far more devasting when the Mega Fauna died out as the grasses would have been able to overgrow , providing an out of balance amount of fuel.
Learning how to control would have been part of a learning curve for indigenous Australians … through need and their own life preservation … it seems to me.
Yes.
12.6 degrees. SSW winds gusting to 28km/h, 65%r/h.
Service lawnmower. New blades and air filter and etc.
Dig up a leaky pipe and fix as I’ve left it turned off all winter but I’ll be needing the extra taps soon.
Morning bronies. Heading for 13 here, showers.
About to do the last tidying before the blinking inspection, although she probably won’t be here until around lunch time.
Then after the inspection I can completely relax.
Bubblecar said:
Morning bronies. Heading for 13 here, showers.About to do the last tidying before the blinking inspection, although she probably won’t be here until around lunch time.
Then after the inspection I can completely relax.
I suspect that you are likely one of her tidiest inspectees.
What say ye who live in leafy suburbs on a big block?
Weather has changed. Temp down to 7.3 and Rel/Humidity up.
Off to get things done.
roughbarked said:
Australia’s housing crisis requires creative thinking. Bluefield housing provides one possible solutionWhat say ye who live in leafy suburbs on a big block?
Here’s another idea.
Why don’t governments commit to building infrastructure and decentralising, and providing incentives for businesses and residents to move to new areas?
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Australia’s housing crisis requires creative thinking. Bluefield housing provides one possible solutionWhat say ye who live in leafy suburbs on a big block?
Here’s another idea.
Why don’t governments commit to building infrastructure and decentralising, and providing incentives for businesses and residents to move to new areas?
They reckoned that they’d done that when I was a wee whippersnapper.
Meaning they still haven’t prioritised it.
roughbarked said:
Australia’s housing crisis requires creative thinking. Bluefield housing provides one possible solutionWhat say ye who live in leafy suburbs on a big block?
I don’t know about Melbourne, but in my leafy Sydney suburb, blocks are being divided all over the place. The main problem I see is that there are way too many blocks with empty houses, or blocks where the houses have been demolished but no new building.
It seems to me there needs to be stronger pressures for people not to leave blocks empty as a long term investment.
Removing negative gearing on rental properties would have the opposite effect.
Taxing unrealised capital gains on empty properties might be a way to go.
Bubblecar said:
Morning bronies. Heading for 13 here, showers.About to do the last tidying before the blinking inspection, although she probably won’t be here until around lunch time.
Then after the inspection I can completely relax.
Have a party, do a bit of snoggin’ and smash the place up a bit, Parpyone.
I wanna know if she asks why she wasn’t invited. 😁
roughbarked said:
Australia’s housing crisis requires creative thinking. Bluefield housing provides one possible solutionWhat say ye who live in leafy suburbs on a big block?
Just get the Chinese in to do it. They can whip these things up before lunchtime.

The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Australia’s housing crisis requires creative thinking. Bluefield housing provides one possible solutionWhat say ye who live in leafy suburbs on a big block?
I don’t know about Melbourne, but in my leafy Sydney suburb, blocks are being divided all over the place. The main problem I see is that there are way too many blocks with empty houses, or blocks where the houses have been demolished but no new building.
It seems to me there needs to be stronger pressures for people not to leave blocks empty as a long term investment.
Removing negative gearing on rental properties would have the opposite effect.
Taxing unrealised capital gains on empty properties might be a way to go.
In my leafy seaside central coast suburb the same thing is happening as in the Rev’s suburb. Blocks being divided or a smaller ‘granny flat’ being added on. And many more houses being left empty apart from holiday time. The other thing that is happening is existing older houses are being demolished and the established trees removed to make way for a Mcmansion that takes up the whole block plus a swimming pool. Pools. Near the beach.
The wealth divide nicely on show.
I’m planning on doing a granny flat on my patch. For this granny. And my not very large house for family. And hopefully most of my edible garden that is part of my future planning gets to stay too.
I now declare this place ready for inspection and will henceforth ignore any further tiny spicks or specks that might come to my attention.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Australia’s housing crisis requires creative thinking. Bluefield housing provides one possible solutionWhat say ye who live in leafy suburbs on a big block?
I don’t know about Melbourne, but in my leafy Sydney suburb, blocks are being divided all over the place. The main problem I see is that there are way too many blocks with empty houses, or blocks where the houses have been demolished but no new building.
It seems to me there needs to be stronger pressures for people not to leave blocks empty as a long term investment.
Removing negative gearing on rental properties would have the opposite effect.
Taxing unrealised capital gains on empty properties might be a way to go.
There has to be a way to prevent empty houses and existing blocks from multiplying.
Just wish she’d do me first for once instead of leaving the easy ones ‘til last.
HEY AGENT DO ME FIRST, EVERYTHING’S READY! INSPECT ME NOW! INSPECT!
INSPECT!
INSPECT!
My quickest time yet for the Washington Post cryptic:

Bubblecar said:
My quickest time yet for the Washington Post cryptic:
Gosh!
Even simple cryptic crosswords take me hours to do, and I often can’t complete them without help.
Saturday 14 September
Showers, less likely about the north, and contracting to the east in the evening. Possible small hail and snow falling to around 200 metres, with flurries to near sea level in the south during the morning. Fresh south to southwesterly winds.
sarahs mum said:
Saturday 14 September
Showers, less likely about the north, and contracting to the east in the evening. Possible small hail and snow falling to around 200 metres, with flurries to near sea level in the south during the morning. Fresh south to southwesterly winds.
You might get some snow then.
Max of 10 here on Saturday. Min was going to be -1 but they’ve revised it to 1.
Bubblecar said:
My quickest time yet for the Washington Post cryptic:
Michael Bentine said you were a genius.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
My quickest time yet for the Washington Post cryptic:
Gosh!
Even simple cryptic crosswords take me hours to do, and I often can’t complete them without help.
This was a particularly easy one. The WP quite often takes me about 20 minutes.
Norman House in Lincoln, 12th century.

Bubblecar said:
Norman House in Lincoln, 12th century.
Same house in 1929.

Bubblecar said:
Norman House in Lincoln, 12th century.
No building would ever survive in Australia for that long. We love to knock them down and build new ones.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Norman House in Lincoln, 12th century.
Same house in 1929.
I was going to say it looks like it’s been given a good scrub-down recently :)
Bubblecar said:
My quickest time yet for the Washington Post cryptic:
I hadn’t done the WP crossword for ages, so i gave it ago.

I’m sure you’ll agree that, as such things go, it makes a nice warm-up.
I had the tail end of 5 down wrong to start with, which caused me some puzzlement over 15 across, until i realised my error.
Bubblecar said:
Norman House in Lincoln, 12th century.
I call shenanigans.
They didn’t have cameras in the 12th century.
Hello
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
My quickest time yet for the Washington Post cryptic:
I hadn’t done the WP crossword for ages, so i gave it ago.
I’m sure you’ll agree that, as such things go, it makes a nice warm-up.
I had the tail end of 5 down wrong to start with, which caused me some puzzlement over 15 across, until i realised my error.
Well done.

i did not know rock wrapping was a thing.
sarahs mum said:
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i did not know rock wrapping was a thing.
+1
Japanese rock wrapping. The Pontville sister will have heard of it.

sarahs mum said:
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i did not know rock wrapping was a thing.
I was also ignorant of its existence.
I admire some of the technique, and i suppose that it’s no more pointless than a lot of the stuff that i do.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
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i did not know rock wrapping was a thing.
I was also ignorant of its existence.
I admire some of the technique, and i suppose that it’s no more pointless than a lot of the stuff that i do.
you could do some paper weights for chrisbit presents.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
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i did not know rock wrapping was a thing.
I was also ignorant of its existence.
I admire some of the technique, and i suppose that it’s no more pointless than a lot of the stuff that i do.
Almost as cheap as the Human Fund cards for Christmas presents.
Get me some of those large blue metal rocks and some string
Cymek said:
Hello
Greetings
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
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i did not know rock wrapping was a thing.
I was also ignorant of its existence.
I admire some of the technique, and i suppose that it’s no more pointless than a lot of the stuff that i do.
Almost as cheap as the Human Fund cards for Christmas presents.
Get me some of those large blue metal rocks and some string
river rocks
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
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i did not know rock wrapping was a thing.
I was also ignorant of its existence.
I admire some of the technique, and i suppose that it’s no more pointless than a lot of the stuff that i do.
you could do some paper weights for chrisbit presents.
I’ve often thought of an occasional market stall for the bits of rubbish that i knock together, but i’m reluctant to ask people to pay money for such tomfoolery.
sarahs mum said:
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:I was also ignorant of its existence.
I admire some of the technique, and i suppose that it’s no more pointless than a lot of the stuff that i do.
Almost as cheap as the Human Fund cards for Christmas presents.
Get me some of those large blue metal rocks and some string
river rocks
Yes they look a lot nicer
sarahs mum said:
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i did not know rock wrapping was a thing.
Me neither, but it’s pleasing.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:I was also ignorant of its existence.
I admire some of the technique, and i suppose that it’s no more pointless than a lot of the stuff that i do.
you could do some paper weights for chrisbit presents.
I’ve often thought of an occasional market stall for the bits of rubbish that i knock together, but i’m reluctant to ask people to pay money for such tomfoolery.
Looking at the multiple inter-weavings in the top-left one, I have no idea how you would go about doing that.
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:Carefully.sarahs mum said:Looking at the multiple inter-weavings in the top-left one, I have no idea how you would go about doing that.you could do some paper weights for chrisbit presents.I’ve often thought of an occasional market stall for the bits of rubbish that i knock together, but i’m reluctant to ask people to pay money for such tomfoolery.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:I was also ignorant of its existence.
I admire some of the technique, and i suppose that it’s no more pointless than a lot of the stuff that i do.
you could do some paper weights for chrisbit presents.
I’ve often thought of an occasional market stall for the bits of rubbish that i knock together, but i’m reluctant to ask people to pay money for such tomfoolery.
you can do a donation stall… where you ask people to pay what they think and then donate all proceeds to a favourite charity… that way you get rid of your tomfoolery and others get to enjoy it and still others benefit.. it’s win/win… win
sarahs mum said:
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i did not know rock wrapping was a thing.
The addition of a stick superfluous imo.
OCDC said:
The Rev Dodgson said:captain_spalding said:Carefully.I’ve often thought of an occasional market stall for the bits of rubbish that i knock together, but i’m reluctant to ask people to pay money for such tomfoolery.Looking at the multiple inter-weavings in the top-left one, I have no idea how you would go about doing that.
it also looks like something you would need gloves for.. because the wrapping of that material could take it’s toll on the hands… still, it’s a nice craft.
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:you could do some paper weights for chrisbit presents.
I’ve often thought of an occasional market stall for the bits of rubbish that i knock together, but i’m reluctant to ask people to pay money for such tomfoolery.
you can do a donation stall… where you ask people to pay what they think and then donate all proceeds to a favourite charity… that way you get rid of your tomfoolery and others get to enjoy it and still others benefit.. it’s win/win… win
:)
elllo kothos
20 mins on hold so far. Hospital didn’t send out form.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
What say ye who live in leafy suburbs on a big block?
Here’s another idea.
Why don’t governments commit to building infrastructure and decentralising, and providing incentives for businesses and residents to move to new areas?
They reckoned that they’d done that when I was a wee whippersnapper.
Meaning they still haven’t prioritised it.
surely a better solution is to convince people to spend all their time and money in online virtual spaces and leave the real natural world for those who appreciate it
sarahs mum said:
elllo kothos
waves
So, is 99% of this forum just the chat thread?
Why not make a WhatsApp group instead?
Michael V said:
20 mins on hold so far. Hospital didn’t send out form.
Ended up being half an hour on hold. They had incorrectly recorded my email address. The call centre people just email Urology, who will call me back and then send a new email. I hope that happens soon. I have to start recording stuff on Sunday. I also have to go to the library to print the forms out today.
Kothos said:
So, is 99% of this forum just the chat thread?
Why not make a WhatsApp group instead?
we don’t do newfangled around here!
Kothos said:
sarahs mum said:
elllo kothos
waves
Hello there
Been a while, hope you are good and any family is as well
Kothos said:
So, is 99% of this forum just the chat thread?
Why not make a WhatsApp group instead?
because, you know.. people
diddly-squat said:
Kothos said:So, is 99% of this forum just the chat thread?
Why not make a WhatsApp group instead?
because, you know.. people
I mean wtf would you move it to bloody whatsapp?
diddly-squat said:
Kothos said:So, is 99% of this forum just the chat thread?
Why not make a WhatsApp group instead?
because, you know.. people
Why not? Because, you know…WhatsApp.
Kothos said:
So, is 99% of this forum just the chat thread?
Why not make a WhatsApp group instead?
would I need a phone?

As soon as she’s been and gone I’ll dash to the shop to get ingredients for a creamy mustard sauce. To accompany tonight’s silverside, Brussels & mash.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
20 mins on hold so far. Hospital didn’t send out form.
Ended up being half an hour on hold. They had incorrectly recorded my email address. The call centre people just email Urology, who will call me back and then send a new email. I hope that happens soon. I have to start recording stuff on Sunday. I also have to go to the library to print the forms out today.
Forms received. Library opens at 2 pm.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:T&PMichael V said:Forms received. Library opens at 2 pm.20 mins on hold so far. Hospital didn’t send out form.Ended up being half an hour on hold. They had incorrectly recorded my email address. The call centre people just email Urology, who will call me back and then send a new email. I hope that happens soon. I have to start recording stuff on Sunday. I also have to go to the library to print the forms out today.
Bubblecar said:
As soon as she’s been and gone I’ll dash to the shop to get ingredients for a creamy mustard sauce. To accompany tonight’s silverside, Brussels & mash.
Silverside is yum
OCDC said:
The scan they sent was very poor quality indeed. There is almost zero resolution on the Bristol stool chart, but that’s OK because the descriptions are reasonable.
Michael V said:Michael V said:T&PEnded up being half an hour on hold. They had incorrectly recorded my email address. The call centre people just email Urology, who will call me back and then send a new email. I hope that happens soon. I have to start recording stuff on Sunday. I also have to go to the library to print the forms out today.Forms received. Library opens at 2 pm.
Michael V said:
There are plenty of BSS cakes on the electrical interwebs should you need to clarify.
OCDC said:The scan they sent was very poor quality indeed. There is almost zero resolution on the Bristol stool chart, but that’s OK because the descriptions are reasonable.
Michael V said:Forms received. Library opens at 2 pm.T&P
Lets speak of onions.
I find they don’t have the oomph anymore or have I just become desensitized.
OCDC said:
IKR – you’ve put some up here before.
Michael V said:There are plenty of BSS cakes on the electrical interwebs should you need to clarify.
OCDC said:The scan they sent was very poor quality indeed. There is almost zero resolution on the Bristol stool chart, but that’s OK because the descriptions are reasonable.
T&P
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of onions.
I find they don’t have the oomph anymore or have I just become desensitized.
You have to eat them like you would an apple.
Michael V said:
OCDC said:The scan they sent was very poor quality indeed. There is almost zero resolution on the Bristol stool chart, but that’s OK because the descriptions are reasonable.
Michael V said:Forms received. Library opens at 2 pm.T&P
I ordered a Bristol stool for my breakfast nook
I was not impressed by what they sent me
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
Maybe their mother.
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of onions.
I find they don’t have the oomph anymore or have I just become desensitized.
onions are harvested in high summer.
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of onions.
I find they don’t have the oomph anymore or have I just become desensitized.
The latter…
I find onions still have sufficient oomph, by and large.
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
Not me.. tis crazy…
While the band’s use of “dynamic pricing” on Ticketmaster, which hiked tickets by hundreds of pounds, has caused outrage and prompted an investigation by the competition watchdog, touts are also listing tickets for thousands of pounds.
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
I was assuming it was a cash grab tour as they probably ran out of money.
I wonder how shit they may sound.
Most of the come back tours are a let down
Cymek said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
I was assuming it was a cash grab tour as they probably ran out of money.
I wonder how shit they may sound.
Most of the come back tours are a let down
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
You’d have to be dying of thirst in the desert.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of onions.
I find they don’t have the oomph anymore or have I just become desensitized.
You have to eat them like you would an apple.
That what Tony Abbott does.
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:The scan they sent was very poor quality indeed. There is almost zero resolution on the Bristol stool chart, but that’s OK because the descriptions are reasonable.
T&P
I ordered a Bristol stool for my breakfast nook
I was not impressed by what they sent me
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ll pay that one.
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
You’d have to be dying of thirst in the desert.
:)
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
I was assuming it was a cash grab tour as they probably ran out of money.
I wonder how shit they may sound.
Most of the come back tours are a let down
Because they have inflated prices?
That is part of it.
I suppose the worry is they might just phone in a performance and fans get a mediocre concert
Michael V said:
OCDC said::-DMichael V said:IKR – you’ve put some up here before.The scan they sent was very poor quality indeed. There is almost zero resolution on the Bristol stool chart, but that’s OK because the descriptions are reasonable.There are plenty of BSS cakes on the electrical interwebs should you need to clarify.
Heard a car door shut. Might be the agent.
Bubblecar said:
Heard a car door shut. Might be the agent.
nup
Bowen told day two of the Asia-Pacific Hydrogen Summit 2024 in Brisbane:
“Let me be clear: Australia’s green hydrogen pipeline is alive and healthy.”
Among the key points is the setting of a 2050 target for Australia to produce 15mt a year of hydrogen produced by renewable energy. That’s the “green” version, among up to a dozen varieties, and there will be a “guarantee of origin” certification scheme to prove it to export markets.
That annual aim, to be “supported” by five-yearly milestones, would have a “stretch” goal of 30mt/year by mid-century. Accordingly, the avoided emissions as hydrogen supplants fossil fuels would range from 93-186mt of CO2 per year by 2050, the report states.
The near-term aim is more modest, reflecting the relatively nascent nature of an industry battling to make production costs competitive. It targets 200,000t/year of exports by 2030, with a “stretch” goal of 1.2mt/year.
The report says:
Setting an early export target provides a strong signal of Australia’s intention to continue supplying energy to the global market … This matches the ambition of some of our existing trade partners who already have 2030 hydrogen targets.
Garud
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Heard a car door shut. Might be the agent.
nup
It’s well past time you livestreamed these things.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Heard a car door shut. Might be the agent.
nup
Bummer.
Ian said:
Bowen told day two of the Asia-Pacific Hydrogen Summit 2024 in Brisbane:“Let me be clear: Australia’s green hydrogen pipeline is alive and healthy.”
Among the key points is the setting of a 2050 target for Australia to produce 15mt a year of hydrogen produced by renewable energy. That’s the “green” version, among up to a dozen varieties, and there will be a “guarantee of origin” certification scheme to prove it to export markets.
That annual aim, to be “supported” by five-yearly milestones, would have a “stretch” goal of 30mt/year by mid-century. Accordingly, the avoided emissions as hydrogen supplants fossil fuels would range from 93-186mt of CO2 per year by 2050, the report states.
The near-term aim is more modest, reflecting the relatively nascent nature of an industry battling to make production costs competitive. It targets 200,000t/year of exports by 2030, with a “stretch” goal of 1.2mt/year.
The report says:
Setting an early export target provides a strong signal of Australia’s intention to continue supplying energy to the global market … This matches the ambition of some of our existing trade partners who already have 2030 hydrogen targets.
Garud
Good. Dutton said green hydrogen was a failure just last week.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Heard a car door shut. Might be the agent.
nup
It’s well past time you livestreamed these things.
I reckon
A entire online show each week ?
The adventures of Bubblecar and his ghost pal Rodney.
Coming up this week
The agent will they turn up ?
Stay tuned
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
You’d have to be dying of thirst in the desert.
Good work
She’s now been and gone! Very quick inspection indeed.
Now I can go to the shop! Before it rains! And then completely relax and get a nice dinner underway.
Bubblecar said:
She’s now been and gone! Very quick inspection indeed.Now I can go to the shop! Before it rains! And then completely relax and get a nice dinner underway.
Excellent.
Approved.
TIL about Starship Prime:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime
…
Particles that damage satellites can be flushed out of orbit
All it takes is very long radio waves
Sep 10th 2024
ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS do not respond well to highly charged particles. Accelerated to near the speed of light by Earth’s magnetic field, such particles pack enough kinetic energy to cause damage. History offers ample evidence of the consequences: in 1859 a massive solar storm known as the Carrington event started fires at telegraph stations. A century later, a big American nuclear test called Starfish Prime released enough energetic particles to fry a third of all satellites then in orbit.
“Hot” or “killer” electrons, as such harmful particles are also known, tend to be dragged by Earth’s magnetic field into one of two doughnut-shaped belts of radiation that circle the planet. For decades scientists have wondered if these belts could be emptied of their electrons on command, a process they call radiation-belt remediation (RBR). In recent years, work on RBR has accelerated, with encouraging progress. Much of the R&D is undertaken, in some cases discreetly, by America’s departments of defence and energy.
Such work has acquired a new urgency. In early 2024 allegations emerged of Russian plans to park a nuclear weapon illegally in a crowded band of space. A detonation there could destroy a greater proportion of satellites than Starfish Prime did, as most of today’s space kit is commercial and lacks military “hardening” against a nuclear detonation’s particle storm. Dennis Papadopoulos, a professor emeritus at the University of Maryland, sees this as a catalyst for a new (and secretive) RBR initiative at the Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) for which he is to serve as adviser.
Such efforts are not as fanciful as they sound, says Allison Jaynes, a space physicist at the University of Iowa. Lightning bolts, for example, do a form of RBR all the time. This is because the radio waves they generate exert pressure on hot electrons, causing them to descend into the atmosphere, where they collide with air molecules and rapidly lose energy in a process known as precipitation. Dr Jaynes describes this effect as “a complete wipeout” of nearby radiation belts.
The wavelengths needed to precipitate energetic particles range from roughly 10km to 100km. Generating such great wavelengths, and therefore low frequencies, is hard, though not impossible. A few navies emit such “very low frequency” (VLF) radio waves for communication with submerged submarines, with the help of antennae hundreds of metres high. As it stands, though, says Craig Rodger, a physicist at the University of Otago in New Zealand, if America’s navy switched its handful of transmitters from “talk-to-the-subs mode” to the best frequencies for RBR, they wouldn’t be able to precipitate hot electrons fast enough to save satellites.
The problem is the ionosphere, which begins about 80km above Earth’s surface. Here, incoming solar radiation strips electrons from atoms and molecules, creating a layer of electrons that interfere with radio waves. At night, the ionosphere weakens them by a factor of about 100, says Dr Rodger. By day, the attenuation is an order of magnitude greater.
Aiming higher
Some are searching for workarounds with experimental antennae. Using $750,000 of American air-force money, Morris Cohen and his team at Georgia Tech in Atlanta built a specialised 275m-long antenna, designed to hop between different frequencies, and laid it horizontally in a field in Oklahoma in the summer of 2023. The flexibility such frequency-hopping confers means particles with a range of energy levels can be targeted. What’s more, Dr Cohen notes, as particles in different regions of space are susceptible to different frequencies, such a tool should make it easier to clear priority orbits. Though no breakthroughs have been achieved so far, Dr Cohen hopes a similar—but costlier—upright antenna may offer improvements.
Others hope to bypass the ionosphere altogether. In 2019 America’s Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) launched a unique satellite called DSX to a height of between 6,000 and 12,000km above Earth. In a feat of engineering, it deployed an 80-metre, 10,000-volt transmitting antenna (with the longest span of any uncrewed spacecraft). For nearly two years, the spacecraft generated VLF radio waves that knocked energetic particles down into Earth’s atmosphere. Michael Starks, AFRL’s head for RBR, says the mission showed that an orbiting craft could protect space assets from nuclear attack.
Wilder ideas are afoot. The Department of Energy’s Los Alamos National Laboratory aims to use a space-based electron beam to, in essence, manufacture lightning. The NRL, for its part, seeks to launch a rocket that would release 1.5kg of barium, a metal, into the ionosphere, where sunlight strips off electrons. Earth’s magnetic field would cause the resulting barium ions to spiral, generating an electric current that could, in turn, produce electron-precipitating radio waves.
Such approaches come with risks. By-products created by the precipitation of the highest-energy particles nibble away at stratospheric ozone, which shields Earth from ultraviolet solar radiation. Just how damaging a big RBR operation would be remains unknown, says the University of Iowa’s Dr Jaynes. The hope, says Dr Starks of the AFRL, is that if America can demonstrate an effective countermeasure to a nuclear attack on satellites, no adversary would give it a shot. Solar storms, however, will not be so easily deterred.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2024/09/10/particles-that-damage-satellites-can-be-flushed-out-of-orbit?
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dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
….about to quaff a post-inspection G&T, so I suppose I’d better call an early FNDC.
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
It’s part of the boast isn’t it?
“I paid $800 per ticket to see her!”
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
IIRC correctly some TS tickets were $2400. It is an interesting experiment to see dynamic pricing in real time and to see whether artists are better off charging more rather than scheduling more dates at more reasonable prices.
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:I paid $5 per ticket to see the Swifties.dv said:It’s part of the boast isn’t it?Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
“I paid $800 per ticket to see her!”
Bubblecar said:
BACK without being drenched or witnessing anyone’s pets being eaten.
That’s because it wasn’t raining cats and dogs.
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
I hope the tickets for the Pat Boon tour aren’t that expensive.
Peak Warming Man said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
I hope the tickets for the Pat Boon tour aren’t that expensive.
Surely Pat Boone isn’t touring at 90.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:I bet HMQEII was.diddly-squat said:Surely Pat Boone isn’t touring at 90.the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.I hope the tickets for the Pat Boon tour aren’t that expensive.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
diddly-squat said:the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
I hope the tickets for the Pat Boon tour aren’t that expensive.
Surely Pat Boone isn’t touring at 90.
He’s led a very good clean God fearing life
Peak Warming Man said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
I hope the tickets for the Pat Boon tour aren’t that expensive.
What price tickets for the David Boon tour?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:I hope the tickets for the Pat Boon tour aren’t that expensive.
Surely Pat Boone isn’t touring at 90.
He’s led a very good clean God fearing life
…according to his PR staff.
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
It’s part of the boast isn’t it?
“I paid $800 per ticket to see her!”
I imagine so
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
diddly-squat said:the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
I hope the tickets for the Pat Boon tour aren’t that expensive.
What price tickets for the David Boon tour?
Price of a carton of semi decent beer
What would a ticket be worth if there’s a good chance Noel and Liam get into an argument on stage, and Noel breaks his guitar over Liam’s head?
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
sigh Nostalgia, hey. Nostalgia isn’t what it used to be, ya know..
I remember Gary Glitter, Suzi Quatro and T-Rex etc. Festival Hall in Melbourne. $3.90 + 10c booking fee.
captain_spalding said:
What would a ticket be worth if there’s a good chance Noel and Liam get into an argument on stage, and Noel breaks his guitar over Liam’s head?
They had a few decent songs, could never get that much into them.
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
What would a ticket be worth if there’s a good chance Noel and Liam get into an argument on stage, and Noel breaks his guitar over Liam’s head?
They had a few decent songs, could never get that much into them.
Yes, they had some talent. Could have been developed into something big, very big, indeed.
But, egos got in the way…
Woodie said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
sigh Nostalgia, hey. Nostalgia isn’t what it used to be, ya know..
I remember Gary Glitter, Suzi Quatro and T-Rex etc. Festival Hall in Melbourne. $3.90 + 10c booking fee.
Did that include Gary feeling you up?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:I hope the tickets for the Pat Boon tour aren’t that expensive.
Surely Pat Boone isn’t touring at 90.
He’s led a very good clean God fearing life
And he’s not likely to get into any salacious trouble now.
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
What would a ticket be worth if there’s a good chance Noel and Liam get into an argument on stage, and Noel breaks his guitar over Liam’s head?
They had a few decent songs, could never get that much into them.
Yes, they had some talent. Could have been developed into something big, very big, indeed.
But, egos got in the way…
They were probably the most successful example of Britpop. It was sort of a niche market so I don’t know what they could have done to be bigger. Also consider 80 million in album sales.
Woodie said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
sigh Nostalgia, hey. Nostalgia isn’t what it used to be, ya know..
I remember Gary Glitter, Suzi Quatro and T-Rex etc. Festival Hall in Melbourne. $3.90 + 10c booking fee.
The Bingbot tells me that Suzi Q is coming to Australia early next year, but there are no tickets available, even if I did have a few thousand $$ to spare.
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:They had a few decent songs, could never get that much into them.
Yes, they had some talent. Could have been developed into something big, very big, indeed.
But, egos got in the way…
They were probably the most successful example of Britpop. It was sort of a niche market so I don’t know what they could have done to be bigger. Also consider 80 million in album sales.
They certainly did very well for themselves.
And, while the show-biz rule is ‘always leave them wanting more’, we can only ponder on what they might have produced had their rather brief career gone on longer.
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:Yes, they had some talent. Could have been developed into something big, very big, indeed.
But, egos got in the way…
They were probably the most successful example of Britpop. It was sort of a niche market so I don’t know what they could have done to be bigger. Also consider 80 million in album sales.
They certainly did very well for themselves.
And, while the show-biz rule is ‘always leave them wanting more’, we can only ponder on what they might have produced had their rather brief career gone on longer.
They were most popular and successful in the mid to late 90s but they were still touring and making albums until 2009: there was nothing brief about it.
Witty Rejoinder said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
IIRC correctly some TS tickets were $2400. It is an interesting experiment to see dynamic pricing in real time and to see whether artists are better off charging more rather than scheduling more dates at more reasonable prices.
does quick maths
If Taylor Swift had the same per-capita attendance at her concerts in China, that she did in Australia, she would have to do about 400 shows. Say, 4 per week, she’d be still there 2 years later.
Pop 25,000,000 and 624,000 saw 7 shows here. Do ya maths for China at 1.412 billion.
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:They were probably the most successful example of Britpop. It was sort of a niche market so I don’t know what they could have done to be bigger. Also consider 80 million in album sales.
They certainly did very well for themselves.
And, while the show-biz rule is ‘always leave them wanting more’, we can only ponder on what they might have produced had their rather brief career gone on longer.
They were most popular and successful in the mid to late 90s but they were still touring and making albums until 2009: there was nothing brief about it.
Well, that’s my memory or perception at fault there. I well remember them in the 90s, but can recall nothing of them 2000-2009. They had a longer span than i was aware of.
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
It’s part of the boast isn’t it?
“I paid $800 per ticket to see her!”
Only to stand there staring at their phone all night recording it.
Woodie said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
diddly-squat said:the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
IIRC correctly some TS tickets were $2400. It is an interesting experiment to see dynamic pricing in real time and to see whether artists are better off charging more rather than scheduling more dates at more reasonable prices.
does quick maths
If Taylor Swift had the same per-capita attendance at her concerts in China, that she did in Australia, she would have to do about 400 shows. Say, 4 per week, she’d be still there 2 years later.
Pop 25,000,000 and 624,000 saw 7 shows here. Do ya maths for China at 1.412 billion.
So you agree with dynamic pricing if the artist has to perform less for the same quid?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
sigh Nostalgia, hey. Nostalgia isn’t what it used to be, ya know..
I remember Gary Glitter, Suzi Quatro and T-Rex etc. Festival Hall in Melbourne. $3.90 + 10c booking fee.
Did that include Gary feeling you up?
He was big and butch in thems days. Rode on stage on a giant silver Harley!! Revved the shit out of it, he did!
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:
Witty Rejoinder said:IIRC correctly some TS tickets were $2400. It is an interesting experiment to see dynamic pricing in real time and to see whether artists are better off charging more rather than scheduling more dates at more reasonable prices.
does quick maths
If Taylor Swift had the same per-capita attendance at her concerts in China, that she did in Australia, she would have to do about 400 shows. Say, 4 per week, she’d be still there 2 years later.
Pop 25,000,000 and 624,000 saw 7 shows here. Do ya maths for China at 1.412 billion.
So you agree with dynamic pricing if the artist has to perform less for the same quid?
I think also as music is much easier to copy now, artists rely on concerts and merchandise to make money
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK without being drenched or witnessing anyone’s pets being eaten.
That’s because it wasn’t raining cats and dogs.
LOLOL
Seen this one yet?

Afternoon, grabbed a pan straight from the oven with my bare hand…rather unpleasant, cake better taste good…
poikilotherm said:
Afternoon, grabbed a pan straight from the oven with my bare hand…rather unpleasant, cake better taste good…
Michael did that not long ago.
Woodie said:
Seen this one yet?
ROFLMAO
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
It’s part of the boast isn’t it?
“I paid $800 per ticket to see her!”
I know it was a bit of a flex to say you had gone, but I don’t think people were out and out boasting about how much they spent
poikilotherm said:
Afternoon, grabbed a pan straight from the oven with my bare hand…rather unpleasant, cake better taste good…
Was there a ladder involved?
Woodie said:
Seen this one yet?
Snort.
poikilotherm said:
Afternoon, grabbed a pan straight from the oven with my bare hand…rather unpleasant, cake better taste good…
Ouch.
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Afternoon, grabbed a pan straight from the oven with my bare hand…rather unpleasant, cake better taste good…
Michael did that not long ago.
Yep.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Afternoon, grabbed a pan straight from the oven with my bare hand…rather unpleasant, cake better taste good…
Was there a ladder involved?
I’m of roughly average height, not sure why I’d need a ladder to get to the oven.
It was this cake , can’t tell if russian, ukranian or just slav…
poikilotherm said:
It was this cake , can’t tell if russian, ukranian or just slav…
A lot of Ukrainian foods are popular in many eastern European countries.
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
Seen this one yet?
ROFLMAO
That’s scary funny
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
It was this cake , can’t tell if russian, ukranian or just slav…
A lot of Ukrainian foods are popular in many eastern European countries.
So was it a lot of work to put together? I’ve never made one and I don’t recall any of our family doing this one.
poikilotherm said:
Afternoon, grabbed a pan straight from the oven with my bare hand…rather unpleasant, cake better taste good…
oof.. got any drugs for that?
Arts said:
poikilotherm said:
Afternoon, grabbed a pan straight from the oven with my bare hand…rather unpleasant, cake better taste good…
oof.. got any drugs for that?
butter is the go to stuff for burns. my grandma told me that.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
It was this cake , can’t tell if russian, ukranian or just slav…
A lot of Ukrainian foods are popular in many eastern European countries.
So was it a lot of work to put together? I’ve never made one and I don’t recall any of our family doing this one.
No, not overly hard work. Worst bit was getting the dough right then cooking each sheet for 5-7 minutes.
“In 2023, Knowles was included on the Russian foreign ministry’s list of sanctioned British media workers who are banned from entering Russia.
The foreign ministry said Knowles and the other journalists were “implicated in fabricating fraudulent anti-Russia stories to be promoted in the media”.
Poor chap died prematurely at 32 in Gibraltar.
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:A lot of Ukrainian foods are popular in many eastern European countries.
So was it a lot of work to put together? I’ve never made one and I don’t recall any of our family doing this one.
No, not overly hard work. Worst bit was getting the dough right then cooking each sheet for 5-7 minutes.
one in, one out/cooling, repeat.
poikilotherm said:
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:So was it a lot of work to put together? I’ve never made one and I don’t recall any of our family doing this one.
No, not overly hard work. Worst bit was getting the dough right then cooking each sheet for 5-7 minutes.
one in, one out/cooling, repeat.
Well I hope it rewards the effort and the burns :)
Peak Warming Man said:
“In 2023, Knowles was included on the Russian foreign ministry’s list of sanctioned British media workers who are banned from entering Russia.
The foreign ministry said Knowles and the other journalists were “implicated in fabricating fraudulent anti-Russia stories to be promoted in the media”.Poor chap died prematurely at 32 in Gibraltar.
Uh-oh.
Peak Warming Man said:
“In 2023, Knowles was included on the Russian foreign ministry’s list of sanctioned British media workers who are banned from entering Russia.
The foreign ministry said Knowles and the other journalists were “implicated in fabricating fraudulent anti-Russia stories to be promoted in the media”.Poor chap died prematurely at 32 in Gibraltar.
Of defenestration?
My Facebook algorithm is surely taking the piss… or is it?
…
During the reign of Claudius (41-54 CE).. when Rome occupied Britain, a group of Roman soldiers were patrolling the forest of Aegol and they began to unknowingly advance upon the underground Dwarven Kingdom of Aegol. ⚔️
The Dwarves were pressed to repel the invaders, and a frontal assault against the Roman patrol would only have brought more soldiers down on Aegol. So the Dwarves launched a more ingenious kind of attack. 🎭
Making themselves up in horrifying disguises of ferocious trolls and half beasts, they burst out of the secret openings of Aegol at nightfall.. and they ran at the Roman patrol. 🛡
The horrified soldiers retreated to their fortress, and related the story of their ambushed to the rest of their number. And the forests around Aegol were never patroled again. Though fearless in battle, Roman footsoldiers were extremely superstitious. So, the first invasions of Britania were nearly flawed by mutiny, due to the island’s reputation for supernatural occurrences.

Witty Rejoinder said:
My Facebook algorithm is surely taking the piss… or is it?…
During the reign of Claudius (41-54 CE).. when Rome occupied Britain, a group of Roman soldiers were patrolling the forest of Aegol and they began to unknowingly advance upon the underground Dwarven Kingdom of Aegol. ⚔️
The Dwarves were pressed to repel the invaders, and a frontal assault against the Roman patrol would only have brought more soldiers down on Aegol. So the Dwarves launched a more ingenious kind of attack. 🎭
Making themselves up in horrifying disguises of ferocious trolls and half beasts, they burst out of the secret openings of Aegol at nightfall.. and they ran at the Roman patrol. 🛡
The horrified soldiers retreated to their fortress, and related the story of their ambushed to the rest of their number. And the forests around Aegol were never patroled again. Though fearless in battle, Roman footsoldiers were extremely superstitious. So, the first invasions of Britania were nearly flawed by mutiny, due to the island’s reputation for supernatural occurrences.
They mean fantasy dwarfs not just little people ?
Kingy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“In 2023, Knowles was included on the Russian foreign ministry’s list of sanctioned British media workers who are banned from entering Russia.
The foreign ministry said Knowles and the other journalists were “implicated in fabricating fraudulent anti-Russia stories to be promoted in the media”.Poor chap died prematurely at 32 in Gibraltar.
Of defenestration?
Heart attack.
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
My Facebook algorithm is surely taking the piss… or is it?…
During the reign of Claudius (41-54 CE).. when Rome occupied Britain, a group of Roman soldiers were patrolling the forest of Aegol and they began to unknowingly advance upon the underground Dwarven Kingdom of Aegol. ⚔️
The Dwarves were pressed to repel the invaders, and a frontal assault against the Roman patrol would only have brought more soldiers down on Aegol. So the Dwarves launched a more ingenious kind of attack. 🎭
Making themselves up in horrifying disguises of ferocious trolls and half beasts, they burst out of the secret openings of Aegol at nightfall.. and they ran at the Roman patrol. 🛡
The horrified soldiers retreated to their fortress, and related the story of their ambushed to the rest of their number. And the forests around Aegol were never patroled again. Though fearless in battle, Roman footsoldiers were extremely superstitious. So, the first invasions of Britania were nearly flawed by mutiny, due to the island’s reputation for supernatural occurrences.
They mean fantasy dwarfs not just little people ?

BREAKING
Our king and queens itinerary is out and it doesn’t include Queensland so I wont get to see them but passing by.
I’m sure they’ll be disappointed in being able to catch up with PWM, maybe next time.

Tim Burrowes
21h ·
St Mary’s Church, Evandale, Tas (plus Gerald the sheep) 7.20pm, Thursday Sept 12 (iPhone 13 Pro)
Witty Rejoinder said:
My Facebook algorithm is surely taking the piss… or is it?…
During the reign of Claudius (41-54 CE).. when Rome occupied Britain, a group of Roman soldiers were patrolling the forest of Aegol and they began to unknowingly advance upon the underground Dwarven Kingdom of Aegol. ⚔️
The Dwarves were pressed to repel the invaders, and a frontal assault against the Roman patrol would only have brought more soldiers down on Aegol. So the Dwarves launched a more ingenious kind of attack. 🎭
Making themselves up in horrifying disguises of ferocious trolls and half beasts, they burst out of the secret openings of Aegol at nightfall.. and they ran at the Roman patrol. 🛡
The horrified soldiers retreated to their fortress, and related the story of their ambushed to the rest of their number. And the forests around Aegol were never patroled again. Though fearless in battle, Roman footsoldiers were extremely superstitious. So, the first invasions of Britania were nearly flawed by mutiny, due to the island’s reputation for supernatural occurrences.
Fucking dwarves.
A rumble echoed around the world for nine days. Here’s what caused it.
It took about 70 people from 15 different countries and more than 8,000 exchanged messages to crack the case.
By Kasha Patel
September 12, 2024 at 2:00 p.m. EDT
The strange rumble was detected mid-September last year. An odd seismic signal appeared at scientific stations around the globe, but it didn’t look like the busy squiggles of an earthquake. A day passed, and the slow tremor still reverberated. When it continued for a third day, scientists worldwide began assembling to discuss what was causing the grumble in the ground.
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Some initially thought the seismic instruments recording the signal were broken, but that was quickly nixed. Maybe it was a new volcano emerging before their eyes, others said. One jokingly ruled out an alien party. As theories were checked off, the scientists dubbed the signal an “Unidentified Seismic Object,” or USO.
“No one had ever seen this. We have nothing to compare it with,” said Kristian Svennevig, a geologist at the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland.
Nine days later, the vibrations greatly dissipated. But the mystery of the USO lasted much longer. A year later, the puzzle has been solved, according to a study published in the journal Science on Thursday. It took about 70 people from 15 different countries and more than 8,000 exchanged messages (long enough for a 900-page detective novel) to crack the case.
The short answer: A mega-tsunami created waves that sloshed back and forth in a fjord in Greenland, creating vibrations that traveled around the world.
A landslide, a tsunami and a seiche
The long answer begins in the atmosphere. As greenhouse gas concentrations increase due to climate change, those heat-trapping gases accelerate ice melt particularly around Earth’s poles. On Sept. 16 last year, that extra heat thinned a glacier in eastern Greenland over time so much that it could no longer support the mountain rock above it.
A 500-foot-thick piece of metamorphic rock, about a third of a mile wide and long, fell and triggered a massive landslide. Rock and ice, enough to fill 10,000 Olympic-size swimming pools, let loose as fast as 47 meters per second and ran for more than a mile. The avalanche plunged into the Dickson Fjord, triggering a 650-foot-high tsunami — one of the highest seen in recent history.
Farther away from the fjord, tsunami waves reaching 13 feet high damaged an unoccupied research station and destroyed cultural and archaeological heritage sites, including an old trapper hut that had never been affected by tsunamis during its century-old history. It destroyed about $200,000 worth of infrastructure. Although the Dickson Fjord is commonly visited by tourist cruise ships, no ships were nearby. No fatalities were reported.
Meanwhile, in the fjord, the mega-tsunami wave traveled back and forth in the inlet and created a standing wave called a seiche. We often see small-scale seiches — this rhythmic oscillation in water — in a swimming pool or bathtub. This tsunami source was so energetic that the seiche radiated seismic waves globally, shaking the planet for nine days before it petered out.
Members of the Danish military sailed into the fjord only days after the event to collect drone imagery of the collapsed mountain face and glacier front and scars left by the tsunami.
Of course, Svennevig and many of his close colleagues didn’t fully know of the connection between the tsunamigenic landslide and the seiche as the events unfolded, which is detailed in the study.
At the time, they were scratching their heads about the data at the seismograph stations. The seiche appeared as a single slow vibration, like a monotonous-sounding hum, as opposed to the frantic lines of a typical earthquake reading. The wave peaked every 92 seconds, which is slow compared with an earthquake.
Seiches are well known, but no one had seen something of this variety. Svennevig, the lead author of the study, said it was like seeing a rainbow but with an extra color that no one had observed before.
“When we started doing this research, nobody had any ideas about what was the root cause,” said Carl Ebeling, a co-author of the study and a seismologist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography at the University of California at San Diego. “Even for a large landslide under normal circumstances, it would be hard to see that on a global scale, so something special is going on here.”
Not quite bathtub science
As some scientists investigated the peculiar seismic data, another group of authorities and researchers had heard of a large tsunami in a remote fjord in eastern Greenland. The two teams, among others, joined forces, quickly growing into a 24/7 international collaboration via a messaging system. The group brought a variety of local field data and remote, global-scale observations.
“We knew there was a landslide and a tsunami. You could pull the seismic signal of those,” Svennevig said. “But then there was this other seismic signal that continued for nine days, and they were taken from roughly the same area, so they must be associated somehow.”
The seiche signal was so befuddling that one team member tried to re-create the long-lasting seiche wave in his bathtub, using a small Styrofoam float and a tape measure. It didn’t work — to no surprise to tsunami modelers.
Instead, tsunami modelers turned to advanced mathematical models to simulate how to create the wave’s height, slow movement and duration. Even then, they initially failed.
The breakthrough came when they received new bathymetry data of the fjord, similar to a topographic map, from the Danish military, which allowed them to better map the seabed in the computer models. Once incorporated, the team used an unprecedentedly high resolution model to show how the landslide direction, along with the uniquely narrow and bendy fjord channel, led to the nine-day seiche.
Svennevig and his colleagues aren’t the only ones who have been studying the global event. In August, a team of six German researchers studied the event primarily through satellite imagery. Their published findings revealed a similar story that a massive landslide caused the tsunami and long-lasting seiche, although the new study details the entire sliding process.
“This event with its fascinating, more-than-a-week-long oscillations triggered the interest of many working groups around the globe,” said Gesa Petersen, who was an author of the August study but was not involved in the new one. “The methods chosen by the teams are different, but the results agree well.”
While the landslide is the obvious instigator of events, “the root cause of this lies in climate change,” said Alice Gabriel, a co-author of the new study and a seismologist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography. She said this is the first landslide of this size to occur in eastern Greenland. Large landslides are more well known in western Greenland, like a massive event in 2017 that caused four fatalities and left two villages abandoned permanently.
Many aspects of climate change are already destabilizing mountain slopes worldwide, whether from increased precipitation, increased air temperatures, or snow or ice loss, said Leigh Stearns, a glaciologist at the University of Pennsylvania who was not involved in either study. She said this landslide and tsunami event highlights the domino effect that can happen with loss of even a small glacier, but it probably won’t be the last one as temperatures rise.
“It would not be surprising if there are more destabilization events in east Greenland and elsewhere,” she said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/09/12/seismic-signal-climate-change-landslide-greenland/?
Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKINGOur king and queens itinerary is out and it doesn’t include Queensland so I wont get to see them but passing by.
I’m sure they’ll be disappointed in being able to catch up with PWM, maybe next time.
They are trying to avoid the Queensland man who claims to be the secret son of King Charles III and Camilla. Wait, that’s not you, is it?
Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKINGOur king and queens itinerary is out and it doesn’t include Queensland so I wont get to see them but passing by.
I’m sure they’ll be disappointed in being able to catch up with PWM, maybe next time.
Oi I hope they are not here to spread cancer.
First it’s dwarves now ancient Chinese porn: it’s a hell of a day on the internet!
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An ancient brick relief from the Eastern Han dynasty (25-200 AD) in China, depicting a scene of outdoor S3XUAL activity. The Eastern Han dynasty was known for its advancements in art, culture, and craftsmanship, including intricate carvings on various mediums like stone, wood, and bricks.
This kind of imagery was not uncommon in early Chinese art, where themes related to daily life, sexuality, and nature were often depicted in a symbolic or narrative form. In this case, the scene might reflect cultural attitudes towards sexuality, fertility, or even serve as a form of artistic expression during that period. It also highlights the sophistication of brick-making techniques and the integration of art into functional objects like building materials.

Witty Rejoinder said:
My Facebook algorithm is surely taking the piss… or is it?…
During the reign of Claudius (41-54 CE).. when Rome occupied Britain, a group of Roman soldiers were patrolling the forest of Aegol and they began to unknowingly advance upon the underground Dwarven Kingdom of Aegol. ⚔️
The Dwarves were pressed to repel the invaders, and a frontal assault against the Roman patrol would only have brought more soldiers down on Aegol. So the Dwarves launched a more ingenious kind of attack. 🎭
Making themselves up in horrifying disguises of ferocious trolls and half beasts, they burst out of the secret openings of Aegol at nightfall.. and they ran at the Roman patrol. 🛡
The horrified soldiers retreated to their fortress, and related the story of their ambushed to the rest of their number. And the forests around Aegol were never patroled again. Though fearless in battle, Roman footsoldiers were extremely superstitious. So, the first invasions of Britania were nearly flawed by mutiny, due to the island’s reputation for supernatural occurrences.
The former, I reckon.
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St Mary’s Church, Evandale, Tas (plus Gerald the sheep) 7.20pm, Thursday Sept 12 (iPhone 13 Pro)
So I missed all that pinkness, damn.
Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKINGOur king and queens itinerary is out and it doesn’t include Queensland so I wont get to see them but passing by.
I’m sure they’ll be disappointed in being able to catch up with PWM, maybe next time.
They tried to book a dinner slot here so I informed their people: “There are no bookable dinner slots in this house.”
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
My Facebook algorithm is surely taking the piss… or is it?…
During the reign of Claudius (41-54 CE).. when Rome occupied Britain, a group of Roman soldiers were patrolling the forest of Aegol and they began to unknowingly advance upon the underground Dwarven Kingdom of Aegol. ⚔️
The Dwarves were pressed to repel the invaders, and a frontal assault against the Roman patrol would only have brought more soldiers down on Aegol. So the Dwarves launched a more ingenious kind of attack. 🎭
Making themselves up in horrifying disguises of ferocious trolls and half beasts, they burst out of the secret openings of Aegol at nightfall.. and they ran at the Roman patrol. 🛡
The horrified soldiers retreated to their fortress, and related the story of their ambushed to the rest of their number. And the forests around Aegol were never patroled again. Though fearless in battle, Roman footsoldiers were extremely superstitious. So, the first invasions of Britania were nearly flawed by mutiny, due to the island’s reputation for supernatural occurrences.
Fucking dwarves.
excuse me!
they prefer the term little people

sarahs mum said:
Bit high for us, but who knows. Our max for tomorrow is now 9.
Are you having white onion sauce with your silverside Mr Car.
Peak Warming Man said:
Are you having white onion sauce with your silverside Mr Car.
Creamy onion and mustard sauce, very nice.
Dinner now finished and much appreciated. Loads left over for tomorrow.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Who the fuck would pay 360 pounds to see Oasis?
You’d have to be dying of thirst in the desert.
Good work
On a horse with no name?
Peak Warming Man said:
Are you having white onion sauce with your silverside Mr Car.
Us Bubblecar© subscribers know it’s mustard sauce this evening.
ABC News:

Ho-hum, yet again.
When did humans leave the trees for the savannah – or did they at all?
Ancient humans are said to have evolved to leave the trees, where our primate ancestors lived, in favour of open grassy savannahs – but we may have this idea wrong
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2447242-when-did-humans-leave-the-trees-for-the-savannah-or-did-they-at-all/?
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If I say his name will Rev, like the devil, appear?
Witty Rejoinder said:
When did humans leave the trees for the savannah – or did they at all?Ancient humans are said to have evolved to leave the trees, where our primate ancestors lived, in favour of open grassy savannahs – but we may have this idea wrong
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2447242-when-did-humans-leave-the-trees-for-the-savannah-or-did-they-at-all/?
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If I say his name will Rev, like the devil, appear?
He’s playing with his new copy/paste/
roughbarked said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
When did humans leave the trees for the savannah – or did they at all?Ancient humans are said to have evolved to leave the trees, where our primate ancestors lived, in favour of open grassy savannahs – but we may have this idea wrong
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2447242-when-did-humans-leave-the-trees-for-the-savannah-or-did-they-at-all/?
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If I say his name will Rev, like the devil, appear?
He’s playing with his new copy/paste/
Oh oh… he could cut and paste this article if he were so kind?
hello peoples
monkey skipper said:
hello peoples
How was the last day of your holibobs?
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
hello peoples
How was the last day of your holibobs?
Still in progress :)
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
hello peoples
How was the last day of your holibobs?
Still in progress :)
Cheers :)
Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKINGOur king and queens itinerary is out and it doesn’t include Queensland so I wont get to see them but passing by.
I’m sure they’ll be disappointed in being able to catch up with PWM, maybe next time.
Only visiting King’s land?
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Better wear a helmet.
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captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
Ho-hum, yet again.
And Qld is giving them help.
Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKINGOur king and queens itinerary is out and it doesn’t include Queensland so I wont get to see them but passing by.
I’m sure they’ll be disappointed in being able to catch up with PWM, maybe next time.
Sydney and Canberra only.
. Looks like New Zealand is dipping out as well.
But they will be going to Samoa for the chogham
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Ok Corey.
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roughbarked said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
When did humans leave the trees for the savannah – or did they at all?Ancient humans are said to have evolved to leave the trees, where our primate ancestors lived, in favour of open grassy savannahs – but we may have this idea wrong
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2447242-when-did-humans-leave-the-trees-for-the-savannah-or-did-they-at-all/?
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If I say his name will Rev, like the devil, appear?
He’s playing with his new copy/paste/
Oh oh… he could cut and paste this article if he were so kind?
Nice to know I have my uses. :)
Ancient humans are said to have evolved to leave the trees, where our primate ancestors lived, in favour of open grassy savannahs – but we may have this idea wrong
By Michael Marshall
10 September 2024
KEPXDK Australopithecus family
Australopithecus family in a grassy forest
Historic Collection / Alamy
This is an extract from Our Human Story, our newsletter about the revolution in archaeology. Sign up to receive it in your inbox every month.
It’s a truism in human evolution that we came down from the trees and out into more open country like grassy savannahs. The open grasslands are supposed to be more favourable habitats for hominins like us. In contrast, dense tropical forests have been thought of as “hostile, unfavourable frontiers” that were “too hostile for humans throughout much of prehistory” (according to a 2022 review of previous studies).
You know I’m only establishing this totemic idea to knock it down, right?
Let’s start with Tabon cave, on the island of Palawan in the south-western Philippines. It’s one of a complex of more than 200 caves that honeycomb a promontory on the coast. Tabon cave has been excavated on and off since the 1960s and was the first place where prehistoric people were identified in the Philippines. Our species lived there at least 40,000 years ago.
Researchers led by Hermine Xhauflair at the University of the Philippines Diliman in Quezon City have been re-examining the evidence from Tabon cave to find out more about the people that lived there. They published their latest results in the Journal of Paleolithic Archaeology in August.
Xhauflair’s team examined the vast amounts of bat and bird guano in the cave. These animals ate insects, which in turn ate the plants in the surrounding area. The carbon isotopes in the guano were characteristic of forest plants, not of grasses, implying that the environment was a tropical rainforest. In line with this, the team found pollen from trees like she-oak and mangroves.
The researchers also looked at the stone tools found in Tabon cave. Of 41 studied in detail, 23 had signs of being used to cut and prepare plants. Some of them seem to have been used for cutting hard plants like bamboo – for instance, splitting long stems along their length. The people may have been making objects like baskets, ropes and fasteners.
The stone tools Xhauflair’s team studied were found in layers dating from between 39,000 and 30,000 years ago. This is long before agriculture, so the people using them were hunter-gatherers. Clearly, they succeeded in living in a tropical rainforest for thousands of years.
This doesn’t match the “rainforests bad for humans” scenario. In fact, it fits an emerging body of evidence that humans and our hominin relatives often lived in dense forests.
Life in the trees
Let’s first consider the recent past, by which I mean the past 10,000 years or so – the period in which agriculture became more widespread.
Some of the strongest evidence for people living in tropical forests in this period comes from the Amazon. Over the past few millennia, this vast rainforest was filled with sprawling settlements and the inhabitants cultivated dozens of plants and animals. Just last year, researchers estimated that there are more than 10,000 undiscovered archaeological sites in the Amazon. These “ghost cities” suggest that complex societies didn’t all develop in the same way: the Amazon inhabitants lived in built-up areas (made from mud, not stone), but they didn’t chop down the forest or fully convert to a farming lifestyle.
Put simply, these people didn’t leave the trees behind. Ironically, the one thing that might cause Indigenous Amazonians to leave is climate change, which could drive the Amazon past a tipping point and cause swathes of it to become savannah.
The thing is, archaeologists haven’t spent much time investigating rainforests. Partly this is because the damp conditions are bad for preserving organic remains – the evidence from the Philippines doesn’t come from a rainforest, but from a cave that was surrounded by rainforest. On top of that, stone is often in short supply so people living in rainforests tend to make artefacts from other materials – like the bamboo used by the people living in Tabon cave. In fact, Xhauflair’s study feeds into an idea called the Bamboo Hypothesis, that prehistoric people in South-East Asia didn’t need to develop more complicated stone tools because they could make so much from bamboo.
However, in the past decade some researchers have begun exploring rainforest-adjacent sites, and have found signs of human inhabitants. The 2022 review I mentioned at the start goes through swathes of evidence, from multiple continents.
One key site is Panga ya Saidi, a cave in Kenya that contains evidence of humans 78,000 years ago living in a region with a mixture of tropical forests and grasslands. There are suggestions that the inhabitants made nets and other such perishable tools to hunt small animals.
Now let’s consider species other than our own. The “hobbits” (Homo floresiensis) lived on the island of Flores, now part of Indonesia, for hundreds of thousands of years until about 50,000 years ago. Flores was densely forested, so clearly they had adapted to that environment. The similarly small Homo luzonensis from Luzon in the Philippines (not too far from Tabon cave) also inhabited a thick forest; a 2023 study concluded they did so at least 134,000 years ago.
Finally, let’s push further back in time, to the oldest hominins and our earliest origins.
The savannah hypothesis
Our closest living relatives spend a lot of time in and around trees. Chimpanzees, gorillas and orangutans are all heavily adapted to life in the canopy, with long arms and other features that enable them to clamber and swing through the branches.
In contrast, humans and our closest extinct relatives, like Neanderthals, are more adapted to walking upright on the ground. We can climb trees, but we’re not as good at it as chimps – just as they’re not as good as us at endurance running.
This has a simple implication: during hominin evolution, we became less adapted to trees and more adapted to walking upright on the ground. We are descended from an unknown ape that lived perhaps 7 million years ago, and which is also the ancestor of modern chimps. Presumably this ancestral ape was adapted to trees.
The question is, when and why did this happen? The classic notion, which emerged gradually in the 20th century, is called the savannah hypothesis. It’s quite simple: some of the apes left the forests and moved out onto the savannahs, and this created an evolutionary pressure to walk upright rather than the knuckle-walking apes do.
This idea has come in for a lot of criticism in recent decades. In a 2015 journal paper, Brigitte Senut wrote: “The famous ‘savannah hypothesis’ is no longer tenable.” Senut had discovered a 6-million-year-old hominin called Orrorin, which appears to have been bipedal, despite being such an early hominin and despite apparently living in a wooded environment. More recent species like Ardipithecus ramidus, from 4.4 million years ago, also walked upright and lived among trees.
(The oldest known hominin, Sahelanthropus, is the subject of a two-decades-and-counting argument about whether or not it was bipedal. Let’s not relitigate this.)
However, there are also researchers who defend the savannah hypothesis. Manuel Domínguez-Rodrigo at the Complutense University of Madrid in Spain did so in a 2014 paper, titled “Is the ‘Savanna Hypothesis’ a dead concept for explaining the emergence of the earliest hominins?” In a fine example of Betteridge’s Law of Headlines, Domínguez-Rodrigo concluded that the answer to his question was “no”.
Domínguez-Rodrigo’s argument is that there are actually two versions of the savannah hypothesis: one envisions the savannahs as grasslands, the other sees them more as mosaic environments with a mix of grassland and woodland. He says the pure-grassland hypothesis “is no longer tenable”, but that there is “compelling support” for the mixed-habitat hypothesis.
Further support came in 2020, with a study that tried to reconstruct how African habitats have changed over time by estimating the evolutionary ages of various savannah tree species. Between 15 and 10 million years ago, the team concluded, savannahs expanded in the tropics and subtropics, before eventually reaching southern Africa around 3 million years ago.
I am in two minds about this study. On the one hand, it does indicate that savannahs expanded while dense forests shrank – which would have pushed apes and hominins out onto the grasslands. On the other hand, the timings don’t really match. Remember, we don’t see decent evidence of bipedality until 6 million years ago: why so late, if the savannahs began expanding 9 million years earlier? Likewise, we don’t see hominins living in truly open grassland until as recently as 2 million years ago.
The answer may be that our ancestors started walking upright in trees, not on the ground. This idea is controversial but has been gathering momentum for 20 years. Early evidence came from orangutans, which can walk upright along branches, using their hands to support themselves. But orangutans aren’t our closest relatives.
However, in 2022 Rhianna Drummond-Clarke and her colleagues studied chimpanzees living in the mosaic habitat of Issa Valley, Tasmania. They found the chimps are more often bipedal in the trees than on flat ground. In other words, bipedalism doesn’t increase with time spent on flat ground – the reverse is true. Drummond-Clarke, now at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, argues for “bringing trees back into the human evolutionary story”.
It’s perhaps telling that many people are deeply fond of forests and parks with woodland. There’s a fancy name for this – savannah perceptual preference – but the core finding is that we find being around trees relaxing.
Hence my suspicion that the core idea of human evolution in the 20th century is, if not entirely wrong, seriously incomplete. The story isn’t how and when we left the trees. While we do spend less time in them than other apes, they are still key to our habitats and wellbeing. In a sense, we never really left.
Thanks Rev.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:He’s playing with his new copy/paste/
Oh oh… he could cut and paste this article if he were so kind?
Nice to know I have my uses. :)
Ancient humans are said to have evolved to leave the trees, where our primate ancestors lived, in favour of open grassy savannahs – but we may have this idea wrong
By Michael Marshall
10 September 2024
KEPXDK Australopithecus family
Australopithecus family in a grassy forest…
However, in 2022 Rhianna Drummond-Clarke and her colleagues studied chimpanzees living in the mosaic habitat of Issa Valley, Tasmania. They found the chimps are more often bipedal in the trees than on flat ground. In other words, bipedalism doesn’t increase with time spent on flat ground – the reverse is true. Drummond-Clarke, now at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, argues for “bringing trees back into the human evolutionary story”.
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“However, in 2022 Rhianna Drummond-Clarke and her colleagues studied chimpanzees living in the mosaic habitat of Issa Valley, Tasmania. “
What?
Thanks Rev and Witty.
But:
“However, in 2022 Rhianna Drummond-Clarke and her colleagues studied chimpanzees living in the mosaic habitat of Issa Valley, Tasmania.•
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OCDC said:
Thanks Rev and Witty.But:
“However, in 2022 Rhianna Drummond-Clarke and her colleagues studied chimpanzees living in the mosaic habitat of Issa Valley, Tasmania.•
?
tanzania. easily to confuse the two.
OCDC said:
Thanks Rev and Witty.But:
“However, in 2022 Rhianna Drummond-Clarke and her colleagues studied chimpanzees living in the mosaic habitat of Issa Valley, Tasmania.•
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normal tasmanians just extraordinarily hairy. it’s a cold weather adaptation.
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Oh oh… he could cut and paste this article if he were so kind?
Nice to know I have my uses. :)
Ancient humans are said to have evolved to leave the trees, where our primate ancestors lived, in favour of open grassy savannahs – but we may have this idea wrong
By Michael Marshall
10 September 2024
KEPXDK Australopithecus family
Australopithecus family in a grassy forest…
However, in 2022 Rhianna Drummond-Clarke and her colleagues studied chimpanzees living in the mosaic habitat of Issa Valley, Tasmania. They found the chimps are more often bipedal in the trees than on flat ground. In other words, bipedalism doesn’t increase with time spent on flat ground – the reverse is true. Drummond-Clarke, now at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, argues for “bringing trees back into the human evolutionary story”.
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“However, in 2022 Rhianna Drummond-Clarke and her colleagues studied chimpanzees living in the mosaic habitat of Issa Valley, Tasmania. “
What?
Well they had tigers, why not chimps?
Alternatively, it’s possible they meant Tanzania.
Apart from the spellcheck error it’s a sensible article.
It’s not only human ancestors that are lacking forest fossils, due to much less frequent fossilisation. There could be many more animals that had ample forest presence but will never be known – pterosaurs, for example, are known mainly as waterside critters but some very rare, small forest pterosaurs have been found. They could well have been almost as widely distributed as birds.
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Oh oh… he could cut and paste this article if he were so kind?
Nice to know I have my uses. :)
Ancient humans are said to have evolved to leave the trees, where our primate ancestors lived, in favour of open grassy savannahs – but we may have this idea wrong
By Michael Marshall
10 September 2024
KEPXDK Australopithecus family
Australopithecus family in a grassy forest…
However, in 2022 Rhianna Drummond-Clarke and her colleagues studied chimpanzees living in the mosaic habitat of Issa Valley, Tasmania. They found the chimps are more often bipedal in the trees than on flat ground. In other words, bipedalism doesn’t increase with time spent on flat ground – the reverse is true. Drummond-Clarke, now at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, argues for “bringing trees back into the human evolutionary story”.
…
“However, in 2022 Rhianna Drummond-Clarke and her colleagues studied chimpanzees living in the mosaic habitat of Issa Valley, Tasmania. “
What?
Tanzania.
Serious typo. Should’ve been picked up before publication.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Nice to know I have my uses. :)
Ancient humans are said to have evolved to leave the trees, where our primate ancestors lived, in favour of open grassy savannahs – but we may have this idea wrong
By Michael Marshall
10 September 2024
KEPXDK Australopithecus family
Australopithecus family in a grassy forest…
However, in 2022 Rhianna Drummond-Clarke and her colleagues studied chimpanzees living in the mosaic habitat of Issa Valley, Tasmania. They found the chimps are more often bipedal in the trees than on flat ground. In other words, bipedalism doesn’t increase with time spent on flat ground – the reverse is true. Drummond-Clarke, now at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, argues for “bringing trees back into the human evolutionary story”.
…
“However, in 2022 Rhianna Drummond-Clarke and her colleagues studied chimpanzees living in the mosaic habitat of Issa Valley, Tasmania. “
What?
Tanzania.
Serious typo. Should’ve been picked up before publication.
Yeah, doesn’t look good.
But what do bots care about how things look?
Fuck, have vote for local council , I thought they were meant t be removed, seems like a waste of time.
Woodie said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
diddly-squat said:
the top tier Taylor Swift tickets were I think $800 – I’d suggest there are probably a lot of people that will happily pay that amount.
IIRC correctly some TS tickets were $2400. It is an interesting experiment to see dynamic pricing in real time and to see whether artists are better off charging more rather than scheduling more dates at more reasonable prices.
does quick maths
If Taylor Swift had the same per-capita attendance at her concerts in China, that she did in Australia, she would have to do about 400 shows. Say, 4 per week, she’d be still there 2 years later.
Pop 25,000,000 and 624,000 saw 7 shows here. Do ya maths for China at 1.412 billion.
so she’s being racist not playing for 400 days a year for them
poikilotherm said:
Fuck, have vote for local council , I thought they were meant t be removed, seems like a waste of time.
Where do you think you heard about the end of local government?
poikilotherm said:
Fuck, have vote for local council , I thought they were meant t be removed, seems like a waste of time.
I have a cousin running in bathurst.
I’d vote for someone else.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Fuck, have vote for local council , I thought they were meant t be removed, seems like a waste of time.
Where do you think you heard about the end of local government?
Wasn’t there amalgamation talk a while back ? Minimise not end.
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Fuck, have vote for local council , I thought they were meant t be removed, seems like a waste of time.
Where do you think you heard about the end of local government?
Wasn’t there amalgamation talk a while back ? Minimise not end.
There was but I don’t know much more living in another state as I do.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Where do you think you heard about the end of local government?
Wasn’t there amalgamation talk a while back ? Minimise not end.
There was but I don’t know much more living in another state as I do.
Always with the excuses.
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:Wasn’t there amalgamation talk a while back ? Minimise not end.
There was but I don’t know much more living in another state as I do.
Always with the excuses.
There’s this new thing called google and this even newer thing called wikipeida:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_New_South_Wales#2010s
I apologise for the royal joke that crashed and burned before the runway, no chance of landing properly due to some gunfire from below, I managed to get out before the plane blew up but the joke wasn’t so lucky.
Hmm, my Aurora balance is down to $6.53 credit. The winds and the return to winter have taken their toll.
RangerJudy 1h
September 13: Last night Lady sat sheltering the nestlings then moved later to the other side of the bowl. She was awake early with a feed of left-over gull to greet the day – both ate a little. Dad brought a big fish just before 7am – Lady took it to the branch, then back and started feeding 34, ate some herself, back off the nest, then back. Dad came in and started eating – feeding 33 a little, before leaving the fish on the nest. Nestlings were resting then and from 11am both eagles were nearby, came to the nest, then away again. Lady fed the remains of the fish around 2pm. Later both eagles were in with leaves a few times. Nestlings even moving leafy sticks around too –with SE33 hidden right under the leaves at one stage. Last light –both brought more leaves in.
Peak Warming Man said:
RangerJudy 1h
September 13: Last night Lady sat sheltering the nestlings then moved later to the other side of the bowl. She was awake early with a feed of left-over gull to greet the day – both ate a little. Dad brought a big fish just before 7am – Lady took it to the branch, then back and started feeding 34, ate some herself, back off the nest, then back. Dad came in and started eating – feeding 33 a little, before leaving the fish on the nest. Nestlings were resting then and from 11am both eagles were nearby, came to the nest, then away again. Lady fed the remains of the fish around 2pm. Later both eagles were in with leaves a few times. Nestlings even moving leafy sticks around too –with SE33 hidden right under the leaves at one stage. Last light –both brought more leaves in.
I remember ranger stacey. the epitome of rangerness.
Peak Warming Man said:
RangerJudy 1h
September 13: Last night Lady sat sheltering the nestlings then moved later to the other side of the bowl. She was awake early with a feed of left-over gull to greet the day – both ate a little. Dad brought a big fish just before 7am – Lady took it to the branch, then back and started feeding 34, ate some herself, back off the nest, then back. Dad came in and started eating – feeding 33 a little, before leaving the fish on the nest. Nestlings were resting then and from 11am both eagles were nearby, came to the nest, then away again. Lady fed the remains of the fish around 2pm. Later both eagles were in with leaves a few times. Nestlings even moving leafy sticks around too –with SE33 hidden right under the leaves at one stage. Last light –both brought more leaves in.
It’s all eat, eat, eat. Add a few leaves to the nest then eat, eat, eat.
Ok, so I just got home from work, and was expecting to join in FNDC, but it seems that an argument broke out while I was away.
Cheers, all. I’m having a drink, and was expecting some friendly banter about stuff.
Did anyone win the footy or something?
tap tap
Is anyone in here?
Kingy said:
tap tapIs anyone in here?
Just nod if you hear me…
Interesting. Ronny Chieng his a bit part in this ‘Godzilla vs Kong’ flick.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Interesting. Ronny Chieng his a bit part in this ‘Godzilla vs Kong’ flick.
his=has
Witty Rejoinder said:
Interesting. Ronny Chieng his a bit part in this ‘Godzilla vs Kong’ flick.
What makes this interesting? Entertainer appears in entertainment product…
furious said:
Kingy said:
tap tapIs anyone in here?
Just nod if you hear me…
nods
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Interesting. Ronny Chieng his a bit part in this ‘Godzilla vs Kong’ flick.
What makes this interesting? Entertainer appears in entertainment product…
It seems to be a two line role: Maybe he’s a fan of the monsterverse. He’s pretty famous, being on ‘The Daily Show’ for some time, so he would presumably opt for roles more suited to his stature.
Kingy said:
Ok, so I just got home from work, and was expecting to join in FNDC, but it seems that an argument broke out while I was away.Cheers, all. I’m having a drink, and was expecting some friendly banter about stuff.
Did anyone win the footy or something?
Yes!
Okane kasegu, orera wa sutaa
Two people recently died of heroin overdoses after using what they thought was cocaine at a house party at Glebe in Sydney’s inner west, while another two people were hospitalised, New South Wales authorities say.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/sep/13/nsw-heroin-overdose-cocaine-users-health-warning
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees at the back door and getting light. There was a brief shower of rain about 15 minutes ago. We are forecast 11 degrees with showers.
Breakfast with my bushwandering friend. Possibly some weeding in the veggie patch, depending on the state of precipitation. Otherwise I should update the plant list for the covenant because the Trust for Nature person wants to come and look at it again in October. Haven’t heard from him for some years – five, at least, as I’ve been retired that long and I’m pretty sure the last time he checked on us was when I was still working.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Thanks Rev.
Yes. Thanks Rev.
sarahs mum said:
Two people recently died of heroin overdoses after using what they thought was cocaine at a house party at Glebe in Sydney’s inner west, while another two people were hospitalised, New South Wales authorities say.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/sep/13/nsw-heroin-overdose-cocaine-users-health-warning
good business model, killing one’s customers
Morning.
14 degrees, heading for 18. Wind gusts to 7km/h
A walk in amongst the orchids is planned and after that the lawnmower serviced yesterday can get back to mowing with new blades and all that.
Back to 7 degrees and no wind no rain.
Maybe a bit presumtuous by putting out tomato plants last week.
This week’s minimums.
Minimum 2° 0° -2° 1° 3° 4° 2°
dv said:
Okane kasegu, orera wa sutaa
are goin to become a star and make money?
roughbarked said:
Maybe a bit presumtuous by putting out tomato plants last week.
This week’s minimums.
Minimum 2° 0° -2° 1° 3° 4° 2°
And spring gave summer and autumn a miss and went straight to winter.
In the Friday Quiz, 6/10.
Fascinating about Pablo Escobar.
Morning moonies, a chilly one expected today. Max of 9, min of 0. Some peoples (including sarahs mum) may get snow.
I’m having a lazy sod day in this nice tidy home. Vigorous arse-sitting with lots of reading, browsing, listening to music, eating, drinking and being cheerful.
sarahs mum said:
Two people recently died of heroin overdoses after using what they thought was cocaine at a house party at Glebe in Sydney’s inner west, while another two people were hospitalised, New South Wales authorities say.https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/sep/13/nsw-heroin-overdose-cocaine-users-health-warning
Damn.
That’s like what happened in Pulp Fiction.
Bubblecar said:
Morning moonies, a chilly one expected today. Max of 9, min of 0. Some peoples (including sarahs mum) may get snow.I’m having a lazy sod day in this nice tidy home. Vigorous arse-sitting with lots of reading, browsing, listening to music, eating, drinking and being cheerful.
The Moonies were a crazy religious cult.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Morning moonies, a chilly one expected today. Max of 9, min of 0. Some peoples (including sarahs mum) may get snow.I’m having a lazy sod day in this nice tidy home. Vigorous arse-sitting with lots of reading, browsing, listening to music, eating, drinking and being cheerful.
The Moonies were a crazy religious cult.
Substitute it with mooners then.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Two people recently died of heroin overdoses after using what they thought was cocaine at a house party at Glebe in Sydney’s inner west, while another two people were hospitalised, New South Wales authorities say.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/sep/13/nsw-heroin-overdose-cocaine-users-health-warning
Damn.
That’s like what happened in Pulp Fiction.
did they try to stab them 3 times in the sternum
Morning punters, weather fine track good.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters, weather fine track good.
God in Heaven, all right with world.
Good morning, PWM.
Didn’t see anyone post this.
North Korea offers first glimpse of secretive weapons-grade uranium facility
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters, weather fine track good.
Sunny, 27C.
Glorious spring day in the golden west.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters, weather fine track good.
God in Heaven, all right with world.
Good morning, PWM.
Nothing goes wrong when God stays in heaven?
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:Currently 10°, max 12°. But this time last year it was 30° in Wod.Morning punters, weather fine track good.Sunny, 27C.
Glorious spring day in the golden west.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters, weather fine track good.
God in Heaven, all right with world.
Good morning, PWM.
Nothing goes wrong when God stays in heaven?
Well, whatever he’s doing in regard to managing the place, he neds to do more of it. Or less of it. Unsure as to which.
It’s 1-1 against England in the slap and tickle cricket.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:God in Heaven, all right with world.
Good morning, PWM.
Nothing goes wrong when God stays in heaven?
Well, whatever he’s doing in regard to managing the place, he neds to do more of it. Or less of it. Unsure as to which.
roughbarked said:
Didn’t see anyone post this.
North Korea offers first glimpse of secretive weapons-grade uranium facility
good, credible deterrents improve regional stability
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s 1-1 against England in the slap and tickle cricket.
I have not been watching it. Seems rather silly to tour Engerland for 3 T20s and 5 ODIs without a single test match being played. Two pointless series IMO.
I think something needs to be done to match ODI series meaningful. There should be some system of qualification and seeding for the World Cup.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s 1-1 against England in the slap and tickle cricket.
I have not been watching it. Seems rather silly to tour Engerland for 3 T20s and 5 ODIs without a single test match being played. Two pointless series IMO.
I think something needs to be done to match ODI series meaningful. There should be some system of qualification and seeding for the World Cup.
Can’t cop T20 slap and tickle cricket, ODI’s are alright bit you can’t beat 5 days test cricket, it’s the pinnacle.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s 1-1 against England in the slap and tickle cricket.
I have not been watching it. Seems rather silly to tour Engerland for 3 T20s and 5 ODIs without a single test match being played. Two pointless series IMO.
I think something needs to be done to match ODI series meaningful. There should be some system of qualification and seeding for the World Cup.
Can’t cop T20 slap and tickle cricket, ODI’s are alright bit you can’t beat 5 days test cricket, it’s the pinnacle.
T20 is for people who enjoy guzzling (not drinking, guzzling) beer, and having something to cheer/applaud every couple of minutes.
Of course, i may be biased, bit i don’t think it shows.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s 1-1 against England in the slap and tickle cricket.
I have not been watching it. Seems rather silly to tour Engerland for 3 T20s and 5 ODIs without a single test match being played. Two pointless series IMO.
I think something needs to be done to match ODI series meaningful. There should be some system of qualification and seeding for the World Cup.
Can’t cop T20 slap and tickle cricket, ODI’s are alright bit you can’t beat 5 days test cricket, it’s the pinnacle.
They need more variety in cricket. Maybe get them to use tennis racquets or hockey sticks for some matches.
>>ACT Coroner offers condolences to families of teenage girls killed in 2022 Monaro Highway crash
I think that’s outside his remit.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s 1-1 against England in the slap and tickle cricket.
I have not been watching it. Seems rather silly to tour Engerland for 3 T20s and 5 ODIs without a single test match being played. Two pointless series IMO.
I think something needs to be done to match ODI series meaningful. There should be some system of qualification and seeding for the World Cup.
Can’t cop T20 slap and tickle cricket, ODI’s are alright bit you can’t beat 5 days test cricket, it’s the pinnacle.
I life test cricket the most. Of the other two I prefer T20 over ODI. But only when it is in a multi-team format like a tournament, where every game matters in trying to get a place in the final. These 3 an 5 game series between two teams with no trophy real prize get a bit pointless after a while.
What I’d like to see are a series of small tournaments or 3 or 4 teams, playing a round robin and final type format. Winning the final gets you some points on the ladder. Run an ongoing international series of mini tournaments over say 2 years, involving ll teams, and only the top 8 or top 10 make it through to the World Cup. Have the net run rate accumulate over 2 years also, so even dead rubbers count for something.
Case in point the Aussies playing T20s against Scotland the week before last. Make it a 3 team tournament between Aus, Scotland and England.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:I have not been watching it. Seems rather silly to tour Engerland for 3 T20s and 5 ODIs without a single test match being played. Two pointless series IMO.
I think something needs to be done to match ODI series meaningful. There should be some system of qualification and seeding for the World Cup.
Can’t cop T20 slap and tickle cricket, ODI’s are alright bit you can’t beat 5 days test cricket, it’s the pinnacle.
I life test cricket the most. Of the other two I prefer T20 over ODI. But only when it is in a multi-team format like a tournament, where every game matters in trying to get a place in the final. These 3 an 5 game series between two teams with no trophy real prize get a bit pointless after a while.
What I’d like to see are a series of small tournaments or 3 or 4 teams, playing a round robin and final type format. Winning the final gets you some points on the ladder. Run an ongoing international series of mini tournaments over say 2 years, involving ll teams, and only the top 8 or top 10 make it through to the World Cup. Have the net run rate accumulate over 2 years also, so even dead rubbers count for something.
Case in point the Aussies playing T20s against Scotland the week before last. Make it a 3 team tournament between Aus, Scotland and England.
involving all teams.
all 18 or 20 of them including the USA.
Beads of sunlight and extraordinary galaxies Here are the winning images from Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2024

roughbarked said:
Beads of sunlight and extraordinary galaxies Here are the winning images from Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2024
Shopped.
roughbarked said:
Beads of sunlight and extraordinary galaxies Here are the winning images from Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2024
Some good stuff there..

roughbarked said:
Beads of sunlight and extraordinary galaxies Here are the winning images from Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2024
Some very nice snaps.
Ian said:
roughbarked said:
Beads of sunlight and extraordinary galaxies Here are the winning images from Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2024
Some good stuff there..
Dolphin Head nebula.
roughbarked said:
Beads of sunlight and extraordinary galaxies Here are the winning images from Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2024
Ta.
:)
>>Beach horse riding business set to close after decade as Sunshine Coast tourism ‘ambassador’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-14/beach-horse-rides-rainbow-beach-to-close-sunshine-coast-tourism/104347918
It doesn’t actually say why the business is closing.
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Beach horse riding business set to close after decade as Sunshine Coast tourism ‘ambassador’https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-14/beach-horse-rides-rainbow-beach-to-close-sunshine-coast-tourism/104347918
It doesn’t actually say why the business is closing.
the old grey mare ain’t what she used to be. apparently.
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Beach horse riding business set to close after decade as Sunshine Coast tourism ‘ambassador’https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-14/beach-horse-rides-rainbow-beach-to-close-sunshine-coast-tourism/104347918
It doesn’t actually say why the business is closing.
He’s had enough.
“12 years is a long time nadder nadder”
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Beach horse riding business set to close after decade as Sunshine Coast tourism ‘ambassador’https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-14/beach-horse-rides-rainbow-beach-to-close-sunshine-coast-tourism/104347918
It doesn’t actually say why the business is closing.
He’s had enough.
“12 years is a long time nadder nadder”
I actually thought he’d been doing it longer that that. The business seemed well established when we got here nearly 10 years ago.
Bubblecar said:
Ian said:
roughbarked said:
Beads of sunlight and extraordinary galaxies Here are the winning images from Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2024
Some good stuff there..
Dolphin Head nebula.
Great images.
Hows PF’s superiority attitude ?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Hows PF’s superiority attitude ?
Is it still visible from space?
The world needs codes quantum computers can’t break
America’s standards agency thinks it has identified three
Aug 21st 2024
QUANTUM COMPUTERS, which exploit strange properties of the subatomic realm to crunch numbers in powerful new ways, do not actually work yet. But if and when they do start working, they will be able to break the cryptographic algorithms that currently protect online communications, financial transactions, medical records and corporate secrets.
Today’s algorithms generally rely on the fact that conventional computers struggle to factorise very large numbers. Finding the factors of the big numbers used by the RSA-2048 algorithm, for example, often used as a benchmark for progress in the field, has eluded generations of classical computers. But experts believe a quantum computer could emerge within a decade or two capable of cracking it in a day. That is already making cryptographers nervous. Sensitive data illicitly obtained today could be held on ice for years, until a sufficiently powerful code-breaker is built.
New algorithms are therefore needed. And because switching over to them will take years, the transition to post-quantum cryptography (PQC) needs to begin as soon as possible. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), America’s standards agency, has now fired the starting gun for this transition. On August 13th NIST announced that three algorithms had been approved as official standards for PQC. Two are based on lattice problems, a type of mathematical puzzle challenging for quantum and classical computers alike. The third, which is based on the hash functions used in data analysis, avoids having too many eggs in a single basket.

The announcement marks an important step in a continuing process. NIST began looking for quantum-safe algorithms in 2016, when it launched a competition for codes that future quantum computers would be unable to crack. Dozens of algorithms were submitted, mathematicians and cryptographers did their best to pick holes in them, and many fell by the wayside. Eventually, in July 2022, NIST announced a shortlist of four algorithms that were candidates for standardisation. Three of them were based on lattice problems. The fourth involved hash functions.
NIST also said it would continue to evaluate four backup algorithms, some of which might be adopted as standards in future. That is because nobody can ever be sure how secure an algorithm really is; there is always a risk somebody might discover a clever way to crack it. NIST consequently chose backup algorithms that did not rely on lattices. One of these, called SIKE, is based on the mathematics of isogeny-based elliptic curves. Elliptic curves are already used in some cryptographic systems today, but are not considered quantum-safe. Isogeny-based elliptic curves, it was thought, would be.
Wrongly, as it turned out. In July 2022 Wouter Castryck and Thomas Decru, mathematicians at Katholieke Universiteit Leuven in Belgium, announced that they had found a way to crack SIKE. Worse still, their method could unlock data encrypted by SIKE in just four minutes, using a ten-year-old desktop PC. Fortunately, SIKE was the only example of an isogeny-based elliptic-curve cryptosystem under consideration by NIST, so this result did not imperil any other algorithms. Cue a big sigh of relief, and SIKE’s removal from the list of contenders for PQC.
Then in April 2024 came another unexpected result. Yilei Chen, of Tsinghua University in Beijing, issued a paper detailing a quantum algorithm that could solve certain lattice problems. This suggested that algorithms based on such problems might, after all, be vulnerable to quantum attack. Given that three out of four of NIST’s preferred algorithms were of this type, this was a potentially disastrous finding. Fortunately, a flaw was found in the paper almost immediately, and cryptographers sighed with relief once again.
One of NIST’s approved lattice-based algorithms, ML-KEM, is a method for distributing secret encryption keys, which allow the right recipient to decrypt the scrambled data. The other, ML-DSA, is an algorithm for digital signatures, a technique that allows users to prove their identity.
The third approved algorithm, SLH-DSA, is an alternative to ML-DSA based on a hash-based algorithm—“to avoid relying only on the security of lattices”, NIST explained. NIST will also continue to evaluate a trio of other algorithms, reliant on neither lattices nor elliptic curves, as possible alternatives to ML-KEM. They are thought to be highly secure, but require more storage space for encryption keys and enciphered data than ML-KEM does.
There is strength in such diversity. The scare over Dr Chen’s paper highlighted the fact that there has not been enough analysis of lattice-based systems to be confident of their security, notes Bruce Schneier, a cryptography guru at Harvard University. People have tried and failed to break lattice-based algorithms with conventional computers for decades, but there has been much less research into how they might be broken using a quantum computer. Adoption of the new NIST standards should go ahead, he says, but large organisations should aim to be “crypto-agile” as they switch to PQC. That means switching in a way that facilitates further switches in future, as better algorithms become available, or flaws are found in existing ones.
The work underpinning a successful transition has been under way for some time, says Scott Crowder, a quantum specialist at IBM, a computing giant. IBM has made a PQC software update for its Z series mainframe computers, for example, which are still widely used in many industries. Similarly, earlier this year Apple implemented ML-KEM on the iMessage service used on its iPhones, iPads and Macs.
For a typical large company, says Mr Crowder, 80% of the job of switching to PQC will be handled by vendors providing upgrades and patches. The other 20% is more difficult, requiring companies to rejig custom-built internal systems.
One approach, which can ease the transition and also provide extra reassurance, is known as “hybrid” or “composite” cryptography. This involves layering existing, conventional cryptography with PQC. That way, if either system is broken, the other still provides some protection. This can act as an insurance policy for organisations required by regulators to adopt PQC but worried that it may not be totally secure.
The possibility still exists that flaws will be found in NIST’s new standards. But that is no reason to delay. The transition will not be easy, and will not be risk-free. But the time to start is now.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2024/08/21/the-world-needs-codes-quantum-computers-cant-break?
Witty Rejoinder said:
The world needs codes quantum computers can’t break
America’s standards agency thinks it has identified threeAug 21st 2024
QUANTUM COMPUTERS, which exploit strange properties of the subatomic realm to crunch numbers in powerful new ways, do not actually work yet. But if and when they do start working, they will be able to break the cryptographic algorithms that currently protect online communications, financial transactions, medical records and corporate secrets.
Today’s algorithms generally rely on the fact that conventional computers struggle to factorise very large numbers. Finding the factors of the big numbers used by the RSA-2048 algorithm, for example, often used as a benchmark for progress in the field, has eluded generations of classical computers. But experts believe a quantum computer could emerge within a decade or two capable of cracking it in a day. That is already making cryptographers nervous. Sensitive data illicitly obtained today could be held on ice for years, until a sufficiently powerful code-breaker is built.
New algorithms are therefore needed. And because switching over to them will take years, the transition to post-quantum cryptography (PQC) needs to begin as soon as possible. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), America’s standards agency, has now fired the starting gun for this transition. On August 13th NIST announced that three algorithms had been approved as official standards for PQC. Two are based on lattice problems, a type of mathematical puzzle challenging for quantum and classical computers alike. The third, which is based on the hash functions used in data analysis, avoids having too many eggs in a single basket.
The announcement marks an important step in a continuing process. NIST began looking for quantum-safe algorithms in 2016, when it launched a competition for codes that future quantum computers would be unable to crack. Dozens of algorithms were submitted, mathematicians and cryptographers did their best to pick holes in them, and many fell by the wayside. Eventually, in July 2022, NIST announced a shortlist of four algorithms that were candidates for standardisation. Three of them were based on lattice problems. The fourth involved hash functions.
NIST also said it would continue to evaluate four backup algorithms, some of which might be adopted as standards in future. That is because nobody can ever be sure how secure an algorithm really is; there is always a risk somebody might discover a clever way to crack it. NIST consequently chose backup algorithms that did not rely on lattices. One of these, called SIKE, is based on the mathematics of isogeny-based elliptic curves. Elliptic curves are already used in some cryptographic systems today, but are not considered quantum-safe. Isogeny-based elliptic curves, it was thought, would be.
Wrongly, as it turned out. In July 2022 Wouter Castryck and Thomas Decru, mathematicians at Katholieke Universiteit Leuven in Belgium, announced that they had found a way to crack SIKE. Worse still, their method could unlock data encrypted by SIKE in just four minutes, using a ten-year-old desktop PC. Fortunately, SIKE was the only example of an isogeny-based elliptic-curve cryptosystem under consideration by NIST, so this result did not imperil any other algorithms. Cue a big sigh of relief, and SIKE’s removal from the list of contenders for PQC.
Then in April 2024 came another unexpected result. Yilei Chen, of Tsinghua University in Beijing, issued a paper detailing a quantum algorithm that could solve certain lattice problems. This suggested that algorithms based on such problems might, after all, be vulnerable to quantum attack. Given that three out of four of NIST’s preferred algorithms were of this type, this was a potentially disastrous finding. Fortunately, a flaw was found in the paper almost immediately, and cryptographers sighed with relief once again.
One of NIST’s approved lattice-based algorithms, ML-KEM, is a method for distributing secret encryption keys, which allow the right recipient to decrypt the scrambled data. The other, ML-DSA, is an algorithm for digital signatures, a technique that allows users to prove their identity.
The third approved algorithm, SLH-DSA, is an alternative to ML-DSA based on a hash-based algorithm—“to avoid relying only on the security of lattices”, NIST explained. NIST will also continue to evaluate a trio of other algorithms, reliant on neither lattices nor elliptic curves, as possible alternatives to ML-KEM. They are thought to be highly secure, but require more storage space for encryption keys and enciphered data than ML-KEM does.
There is strength in such diversity. The scare over Dr Chen’s paper highlighted the fact that there has not been enough analysis of lattice-based systems to be confident of their security, notes Bruce Schneier, a cryptography guru at Harvard University. People have tried and failed to break lattice-based algorithms with conventional computers for decades, but there has been much less research into how they might be broken using a quantum computer. Adoption of the new NIST standards should go ahead, he says, but large organisations should aim to be “crypto-agile” as they switch to PQC. That means switching in a way that facilitates further switches in future, as better algorithms become available, or flaws are found in existing ones.
The work underpinning a successful transition has been under way for some time, says Scott Crowder, a quantum specialist at IBM, a computing giant. IBM has made a PQC software update for its Z series mainframe computers, for example, which are still widely used in many industries. Similarly, earlier this year Apple implemented ML-KEM on the iMessage service used on its iPhones, iPads and Macs.
For a typical large company, says Mr Crowder, 80% of the job of switching to PQC will be handled by vendors providing upgrades and patches. The other 20% is more difficult, requiring companies to rejig custom-built internal systems.
One approach, which can ease the transition and also provide extra reassurance, is known as “hybrid” or “composite” cryptography. This involves layering existing, conventional cryptography with PQC. That way, if either system is broken, the other still provides some protection. This can act as an insurance policy for organisations required by regulators to adopt PQC but worried that it may not be totally secure.
The possibility still exists that flaws will be found in NIST’s new standards. But that is no reason to delay. The transition will not be easy, and will not be risk-free. But the time to start is now.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2024/08/21/the-world-needs-codes-quantum-computers-cant-break?
Do thy use AI to evaluate these algorithms?
I am curious about something. I noticed on iNaturalist that they spell the common name of Hardenbergia violacea as False Sasparilla. I’ve always spelt that as Sarsparilla. I’ve checked my library and done a quick online search and there seems to be three ways of spellling it…Sarsaparilla/Sarsparilla/Sasparilla. Which spelling to you lot use?

If you’re terrified of spiders, now is probably the time to stop reading. Some orb-weaver spiders catch male fireflies in order to make use of their luminous signals, according to new research. It is thought that the spiders may manipulate the signals to mimic the flashes of female fireflies, luring more unsuspecting males to their deaths.
For CN:
…
Drone swarms could stop wildfires, researchers say
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg3e4pw294po?
buffy said:
I am curious about something. I noticed on iNaturalist that they spell the common name of Hardenbergia violacea as False Sasparilla. I’ve always spelt that as Sarsparilla. I’ve checked my library and done a quick online search and there seems to be three ways of spellling it…Sarsaparilla/Sarsparilla/Sasparilla. Which spelling to you lot use?
Sarsaparilla. I remember a soft drink promotion for “Big Sars” which occasioned some chuckles as it sounded rather like “Pig’s Arse”.
This odd fish has 30 times as much DNA as humans—a new record for animals
Lacking key genes that control selfish bits of DNA, the South American lungfish’s genome just grew and grew
https://www.science.org/content/article/odd-fish-has-30-times-much-dna-humans-new-record-animals?
Witty Rejoinder said:
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If you’re terrified of spiders, now is probably the time to stop reading. Some orb-weaver spiders catch male fireflies in order to make use of their luminous signals, according to new research. It is thought that the spiders may manipulate the signals to mimic the flashes of female fireflies, luring more unsuspecting males to their deaths.
Sneaky devils.
No sign of snow or even rain this end. I wonder how sarahs mum is doing.
Witty Rejoinder said:
For CN:…
Drone swarms could stop wildfires, researchers say
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg3e4pw294po?
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/T9hjBQCcs2TRwB24/?mibextid=D5vui
When British people see a drone
Witty Rejoinder said:
This odd fish has 30 times as much DNA as humans—a new record for animals
Lacking key genes that control selfish bits of DNA, the South American lungfish’s genome just grew and grewhttps://www.science.org/content/article/odd-fish-has-30-times-much-dna-humans-new-record-animals?
About time that fish deleted its spam.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
I am curious about something. I noticed on iNaturalist that they spell the common name of Hardenbergia violacea as False Sasparilla. I’ve always spelt that as Sarsparilla. I’ve checked my library and done a quick online search and there seems to be three ways of spellling it…Sarsaparilla/Sarsparilla/Sasparilla. Which spelling to you lot use?
Sarsaparilla. I remember a soft drink promotion for “Big Sars” which occasioned some chuckles as it sounded rather like “Pig’s Arse”.
Even the WP article iNat references spells it correctly.

Witty Rejoinder said:
For CN:…
Drone swarms could stop wildfires, researchers say
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg3e4pw294po?
“But he’s not certain the technology is there yet, with questions remaining about the amount of water or retardant the drones would need to carry to be effective.”
You need at least 2000lt to make any sort of effective drop. They need to get these to work with LATs, SEATs & Helitaks, which are too complex for drone tech for now.
Currently if there is any drone in the sky within 5km, all air support is grounded.
buffy said:
I am curious about something. I noticed on iNaturalist that they spell the common name of Hardenbergia violacea as False Sasparilla. I’ve always spelt that as Sarsparilla. I’ve checked my library and done a quick online search and there seems to be three ways of spellling it…Sarsaparilla/Sarsparilla/Sasparilla. Which spelling to you lot use?
I don’t use the word often, as it is an awful flavour for a drink. Sars. Sarsparilla.
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
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If you’re terrified of spiders, now is probably the time to stop reading. Some orb-weaver spiders catch male fireflies in order to make use of their luminous signals, according to new research. It is thought that the spiders may manipulate the signals to mimic the flashes of female fireflies, luring more unsuspecting males to their deaths.
Sneaky devils.
I wonder how they figured that out?
Trial and error?
How do they communicate that concept with other orbs
Do they yell out “Hey let’s test this shit out”
Kingy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
For CN:…
Drone swarms could stop wildfires, researchers say
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg3e4pw294po?
“But he’s not certain the technology is there yet, with questions remaining about the amount of water or retardant the drones would need to carry to be effective.”
You need at least 2000lt to make any sort of effective drop. They need to get these to work with LATs, SEATs & Helitaks, which are too complex for drone tech for now.
Currently if there is any drone in the sky within 5km, all air support is grounded.
It is a simple question weight. Water is heavy. 2000 litres of water weighs 2 tonnes. Any drone that can carry 2 tonnes has to be big. For comparison, a 4 seater aircraft generally has a payload of under half a tonne. So we’re talking the equivalent of a 12 seater. That’s a fuck-off big drone.
buffy said:
I am curious about something. I noticed on iNaturalist that they spell the common name of Hardenbergia violacea as False Sasparilla. I’ve always spelt that as Sarsparilla. I’ve checked my library and done a quick online search and there seems to be three ways of spellling it…Sarsaparilla/Sarsparilla/Sasparilla. Which spelling to you lot use?Sassparilly!
But in formal settings, the first or second.
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
For CN:…
Drone swarms could stop wildfires, researchers say
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg3e4pw294po?
“But he’s not certain the technology is there yet, with questions remaining about the amount of water or retardant the drones would need to carry to be effective.”
You need at least 2000lt to make any sort of effective drop. They need to get these to work with LATs, SEATs & Helitaks, which are too complex for drone tech for now.
Currently if there is any drone in the sky within 5km, all air support is grounded.
It is a simple question weight. Water is heavy. 2000 litres of water weighs 2 tonnes. Any drone that can carry 2 tonnes has to be big. For comparison, a 4 seater aircraft generally has a payload of under half a tonne. So we’re talking the equivalent of a 12 seater. That’s a fuck-off big drone.
Something like this
Basically
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/china-test-flies-biggest-cargo-drone-as-low-altitude-economy-takes-off/article68515193.ece
OCDC said:
buffy said:Having reviewed my database, I have not actually used the second, just the first, sars or sassparilly.I am curious about something. I noticed on iNaturalist that they spell the common name of Hardenbergia violacea as False Sasparilla. I’ve always spelt that as Sarsparilla. I’ve checked my library and done a quick online search and there seems to be three ways of spellling it…Sarsaparilla/Sarsparilla/Sasparilla. Which spelling to you lot use?Sassparilly!
But in formal settings, the first or second.
Kingy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
For CN:…
Drone swarms could stop wildfires, researchers say
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg3e4pw294po?
“But he’s not certain the technology is there yet, with questions remaining about the amount of water or retardant the drones would need to carry to be effective.”
You need at least 2000lt to make any sort of effective drop. They need to get these to work with LATs, SEATs & Helitaks, which are too complex for drone tech for now.
Currently if there is any drone in the sky within 5km, all air support is grounded.
Location signals need to be shared across all airborne vehicles maned and unmaned along with some form of portable virtual control tower that can allow airborne vehicles to work a bit closer together than 5km.
Jon Bon Jovi praised for talking woman off bridge in Nashville | BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqO1fWONaVI
Tau.Neutrino said:
Kingy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
For CN:…
Drone swarms could stop wildfires, researchers say
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg3e4pw294po?
“But he’s not certain the technology is there yet, with questions remaining about the amount of water or retardant the drones would need to carry to be effective.”
You need at least 2000lt to make any sort of effective drop. They need to get these to work with LATs, SEATs & Helitaks, which are too complex for drone tech for now.
Currently if there is any drone in the sky within 5km, all air support is grounded.
Location signals need to be shared across all airborne vehicles maned and unmaned along with some form of portable virtual control tower that can allow airborne vehicles to work a bit closer together than 5km.
We see how drones can work together to create spectacular led fireworks.
Something like that, but with escape routes for every vehicle.
sarahs mum said:
Jon Bon Jovi praised for talking woman off bridge in Nashville | BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqO1fWONaVI
Well done that rocker.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Kingy said:“But he’s not certain the technology is there yet, with questions remaining about the amount of water or retardant the drones would need to carry to be effective.”
You need at least 2000lt to make any sort of effective drop. They need to get these to work with LATs, SEATs & Helitaks, which are too complex for drone tech for now.
Currently if there is any drone in the sky within 5km, all air support is grounded.
Location signals need to be shared across all airborne vehicles maned and unmaned along with some form of portable virtual control tower that can allow airborne vehicles to work a bit closer together than 5km.
We see how drones can work together to create spectacular led fireworks.
Something like that, but with escape routes for every vehicle.
Add weather sensors to every airborne vehicle to share wind speeds wind shear etc
Build in virtual control tower software into every type of aircraft
Then start testing systems from 5km inwards
Something like that.
A Sydney Council has installed a giant red banner to obscure harbour views after trees were vandalised in a luxury suburb.
In November last year, 290 trees were illegally destroyed in Woodford Bay, Lane Cove, in an attempt to free up a view of the harbour, which was being blocked by the trees.
The Lane Cove council has installed a double-sided red banner that says “Trees shouldn’t die for a view”.
Well done.
Peak Warming Man said:
A Sydney Council has installed a giant red banner to obscure harbour views after trees were vandalised in a luxury suburb.
In November last year, 290 trees were illegally destroyed in Woodford Bay, Lane Cove, in an attempt to free up a view of the harbour, which was being blocked by the trees.
The Lane Cove council has installed a double-sided red banner that says “Trees shouldn’t die for a view”.Well done.
First world madness.
Peak Warming Man said:
A Sydney Council has installed a giant red banner to obscure harbour views after trees were vandalised in a luxury suburb.
In November last year, 290 trees were illegally destroyed in Woodford Bay, Lane Cove, in an attempt to free up a view of the harbour, which was being blocked by the trees.
The Lane Cove council has installed a double-sided red banner that says “Trees shouldn’t die for a view”.Well done.
Until the next council election. Some local resident might make it a campaign policy to remove the banner, and might win. So banner comes down and views are restored.
Going to watch The Curse of Peladon tonight, a Pertwee classic.
One might also say a Troughton classic, since Patrick’s son David starred as King Peladon.

No snow happening your end, sarahs mum?
Just a sunny sort of day here, albeit it a bit breezy and nippy.
Bubblecar said:
No snow happening your end, sarahs mum?Just a sunny sort of day here, albeit it a bit breezy and nippy.
Shes snowed in and lost all contact until the blizzard abates..
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Location signals need to be shared across all airborne vehicles maned and unmaned along with some form of portable virtual control tower that can allow airborne vehicles to work a bit closer together than 5km.
We see how drones can work together to create spectacular led fireworks.
Something like that, but with escape routes for every vehicle.
Add weather sensors to every airborne vehicle to share wind speeds wind shear etc
Build in virtual control tower software into every type of aircraft
Then start testing systems from 5km inwards
Something like that.
Validation and encryption to stop idiots.
Bubblecar said:
No snow happening your end, sarahs mum?Just a sunny sort of day here, albeit it a bit breezy and nippy.
there has been flurries. but naught has stuck. just had an impressive amount of hail that did make things white briefly.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
No snow happening your end, sarahs mum?Just a sunny sort of day here, albeit it a bit breezy and nippy.
there has been flurries. but naught has stuck. just had an impressive amount of hail that did make things white briefly.
Better than nowt :)
Mind you we’re overcast now and anything might happen.
Mostly overcast today with some rainy squalls but now sunny. Hail for the family in Warragul.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
A Sydney Council has installed a giant red banner to obscure harbour views after trees were vandalised in a luxury suburb.
In November last year, 290 trees were illegally destroyed in Woodford Bay, Lane Cove, in an attempt to free up a view of the harbour, which was being blocked by the trees.
The Lane Cove council has installed a double-sided red banner that says “Trees shouldn’t die for a view”.Well done.
First world madness.
The council said the banner will remain at the site of the destroyed trees until the vegetation has grown back to a suitable height.
“Lane Cove stands tall against tree vandalism.”The banner is seven metres across and two meters high.
Fair
Bubblecar said:
Going to watch The Curse of Peladon tonight, a Pertwee classic.One might also say a Troughton classic, since Patrick’s son David starred as King Peladon.
David later appeared as Professor Hobbes, in the episode “Midnight”. That story split the field, with people either hating or loving it, but I’m very much in the latter category.
I gave up on doing weeding in the veggie patch. The wind is straight off the Antarctic out there and the rain squalls are annoying. So I picked some asparagus, pulled some carrots and came back inside to try to sort out in my brain the yellow Diuris moth orchids of this area. There are 4 “possibles”, although probably realistically only two of them are likely.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Location signals need to be shared across all airborne vehicles maned and unmaned along with some form of portable virtual control tower that can allow airborne vehicles to work a bit closer together than 5km.
We see how drones can work together to create spectacular led fireworks.
Something like that, but with escape routes for every vehicle.
Add weather sensors to every airborne vehicle to share wind speeds wind shear etc
Build in virtual control tower software into every type of aircraft
Then start testing systems from 5km inwards
Something like that.
All those drone light shows have hundreds or thousands of coordinated synchronised drones flying in formation,
They have shared location signals with virtual control tower software, this helps keeps them spread apart as per rules.
They have collision avoidance, can work to a central computer or can act autonomously.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:We see how drones can work together to create spectacular led fireworks.
Something like that, but with escape routes for every vehicle.
Add weather sensors to every airborne vehicle to share wind speeds wind shear etc
Build in virtual control tower software into every type of aircraft
Then start testing systems from 5km inwards
Something like that.
All those drone light shows have hundreds or thousands of coordinated synchronised drones flying in formation,
They have shared location signals with virtual control tower software, this helps keeps them spread apart as per rules.
They have collision avoidance, can work to a central computer or can act autonomously.
Sounds like a good idea
Raining now with hail incorporated.
Bubblecar said:
Raining now with hail incorporated.
More like sleet now, splodges of snow hitting the windows with the rain.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:We see how drones can work together to create spectacular led fireworks.
Something like that, but with escape routes for every vehicle.
Add weather sensors to every airborne vehicle to share wind speeds wind shear etc
Build in virtual control tower software into every type of aircraft
Then start testing systems from 5km inwards
Something like that.
All those drone light shows have hundreds or thousands of coordinated synchronised drones flying in formation,
They have shared location signals with virtual control tower software, this helps keeps them spread apart as per rules.
They have collision avoidance, can work to a central computer or can act autonomously.
You could test such systems using flight simulation software.
Build up multiple aircraft slowly following spread apart rules.
Things like different elevations and minimum distances would have to be worked out carefully for different types of aircraft which have different speeds and sizes etc.
Not an aviation expert.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Raining now with hail incorporated.
More like sleet now, splodges of snow hitting the windows with the rain.
They predicted snow.
Ok.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Raining now with hail incorporated.
More like sleet now, splodges of snow hitting the windows with the rain.
They predicted snow.
Ok.
It’s mostly rain though. Not cold enough for snow to predominate and settle.
But might be more favourable tonight as the temperature drops.
Bubblecar said:
Raining now with hail incorporated.
Wow.
it is 26C here and a lovely sunny day. I’m wearing shorts for the first time in months.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Raining now with hail incorporated.
Wow.
it is 26C here and a lovely sunny day. I’m wearing shorts for the first time in months.
Ditto, just bought myself some new thongs for summer.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Raining now with hail incorporated.
Wow.
it is 26C here and a lovely sunny day. I’m wearing shorts for the first time in months.
It’s a large and sprawling nation.
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Raining now with hail incorporated.
Wow.
it is 26C here and a lovely sunny day. I’m wearing shorts for the first time in months.
Ditto, just bought myself some new thongs for summer.
Phoaw, doesn’t get much better than that.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Raining now with hail incorporated.
Wow.
it is 26C here and a lovely sunny day. I’m wearing shorts for the first time in months.
It’s a large and sprawling nation.
Girt by sea.
I have done my bit for local democracy today. I handed out flyers for a woman who I admired for her logical and middle path stances, before sneaky tricks got our council amalgamated and put under administration and no elected representatives for the last umpteen years.
Gosh, you hear and see some interesting things while doing such things. Lots of heartening things too, people who are very interested in good local governance and who have read up on things. But disheartening was the creep of US style politics and disinformation. The most wtf thing I saw was a man in a Trump hat scowling his way through things, with his wife nodding her head in approval at his every growl at the throng.
I’m annoyed I didn’t get the sausage sanger at that booth, I thought my local voting place would have them, but they only had a cake stall. I overdosed on various sugary goodies, having only had a bowl of gruel at brekkie.
ruby said:
I have done my bit for local democracy today. I handed out flyers for a woman who I admired for her logical and middle path stances, before sneaky tricks got our council amalgamated and put under administration and no elected representatives for the last umpteen years.
Gosh, you hear and see some interesting things while doing such things. Lots of heartening things too, people who are very interested in good local governance and who have read up on things. But disheartening was the creep of US style politics and disinformation. The most wtf thing I saw was a man in a Trump hat scowling his way through things, with his wife nodding her head in approval at his every growl at the throng.I’m annoyed I didn’t get the sausage sanger at that booth, I thought my local voting place would have them, but they only had a cake stall. I overdosed on various sugary goodies, having only had a bowl of gruel at brekkie.
Looxury.
Peak Warming Man said:
ruby said:
I have done my bit for local democracy today. I handed out flyers for a woman who I admired for her logical and middle path stances, before sneaky tricks got our council amalgamated and put under administration and no elected representatives for the last umpteen years.
Gosh, you hear and see some interesting things while doing such things. Lots of heartening things too, people who are very interested in good local governance and who have read up on things. But disheartening was the creep of US style politics and disinformation. The most wtf thing I saw was a man in a Trump hat scowling his way through things, with his wife nodding her head in approval at his every growl at the throng.I’m annoyed I didn’t get the sausage sanger at that booth, I thought my local voting place would have them, but they only had a cake stall. I overdosed on various sugary goodies, having only had a bowl of gruel at brekkie.
Looxury.
My sugar rush headache says I should have had a follow up bowl of gruel instead of the P&C creations.
Looks like NSW is set to get the weather from the southern states soon-
A strong cold front is forecast to drag a polar air mass across parts of NSW from this afternoon and into Sunday, bringing colder temperatures, icy winds, rain, hail, thunderstorms and snow
so global warming was a hoax after all
ruby said:
Peak Warming Man said:
ruby said:
I have done my bit for local democracy today. I handed out flyers for a woman who I admired for her logical and middle path stances, before sneaky tricks got our council amalgamated and put under administration and no elected representatives for the last umpteen years.
Gosh, you hear and see some interesting things while doing such things. Lots of heartening things too, people who are very interested in good local governance and who have read up on things. But disheartening was the creep of US style politics and disinformation. The most wtf thing I saw was a man in a Trump hat scowling his way through things, with his wife nodding her head in approval at his every growl at the throng.I’m annoyed I didn’t get the sausage sanger at that booth, I thought my local voting place would have them, but they only had a cake stall. I overdosed on various sugary goodies, having only had a bowl of gruel at brekkie.
Looxury.
My sugar rush headache says I should have had a follow up bowl of gruel instead of the P&C creations.
We never had sugar on our bowl of gravel.
ruby said:
I have done my bit for local democracy today. I handed out flyers for a woman who I admired for her logical and middle path stances, before sneaky tricks got our council amalgamated and put under administration and no elected representatives for the last umpteen years.
Gosh, you hear and see some interesting things while doing such things. Lots of heartening things too, people who are very interested in good local governance and who have read up on things. But disheartening was the creep of US style politics and disinformation. The most wtf thing I saw was a man in a Trump hat scowling his way through things, with his wife nodding her head in approval at his every growl at the throng.I’m annoyed I didn’t get the sausage sanger at that booth, I thought my local voting place would have them, but they only had a cake stall. I overdosed on various sugary goodies, having only had a bowl of gruel at brekkie.
We also just had Democracy Cakes.
They’re just not the same.
ruby said:
Looks like NSW is set to get the weather from the southern states soon-
A strong cold front is forecast to drag a polar air mass across parts of NSW from this afternoon and into Sunday, bringing colder temperatures, icy winds, rain, hail, thunderstorms and snow
It’s been cold and gloomy with occasional light rain here all day.
Michael V said:
ruby said:
Looks like NSW is set to get the weather from the southern states soon-
A strong cold front is forecast to drag a polar air mass across parts of NSW from this afternoon and into Sunday, bringing colder temperatures, icy winds, rain, hail, thunderstorms and snow
It’s been cold and gloomy with occasional light rain here all day.

The Rev Dodgson said:
ruby said:
I have done my bit for local democracy today. I handed out flyers for a woman who I admired for her logical and middle path stances, before sneaky tricks got our council amalgamated and put under administration and no elected representatives for the last umpteen years.
Gosh, you hear and see some interesting things while doing such things. Lots of heartening things too, people who are very interested in good local governance and who have read up on things. But disheartening was the creep of US style politics and disinformation. The most wtf thing I saw was a man in a Trump hat scowling his way through things, with his wife nodding her head in approval at his every growl at the throng.I’m annoyed I didn’t get the sausage sanger at that booth, I thought my local voting place would have them, but they only had a cake stall. I overdosed on various sugary goodies, having only had a bowl of gruel at brekkie.
We also just had Democracy Cakes.
They’re just not the same.
They’re pretty good, but no, not the same.
I was doing delayed gratification, watching the happy throng passing by having just voted, with the classic Lions Club true blue fare clutched in hand….sausage wrapped in its cosy blanket of pure white bread with an artistic sweep of sauce adorning.
I shall console myself tonight with bubble and squeak with extra bacon.
ruby said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
ruby said:
I have done my bit for local democracy today. I handed out flyers for a woman who I admired for her logical and middle path stances, before sneaky tricks got our council amalgamated and put under administration and no elected representatives for the last umpteen years.
Gosh, you hear and see some interesting things while doing such things. Lots of heartening things too, people who are very interested in good local governance and who have read up on things. But disheartening was the creep of US style politics and disinformation. The most wtf thing I saw was a man in a Trump hat scowling his way through things, with his wife nodding her head in approval at his every growl at the throng.I’m annoyed I didn’t get the sausage sanger at that booth, I thought my local voting place would have them, but they only had a cake stall. I overdosed on various sugary goodies, having only had a bowl of gruel at brekkie.
We also just had Democracy Cakes.
They’re just not the same.
They’re pretty good, but no, not the same.
I was doing delayed gratification, watching the happy throng passing by having just voted, with the classic Lions Club true blue fare clutched in hand….sausage wrapped in its cosy blanket of pure white bread with an artistic sweep of sauce adorning.
I shall console myself tonight with bubble and squeak with extra bacon.
I’ve never had a democracy sausage. I’ve never voted where they were available.
Michael V said:
ruby said:
The Rev Dodgson said:We also just had Democracy Cakes.
They’re just not the same.
They’re pretty good, but no, not the same.
I was doing delayed gratification, watching the happy throng passing by having just voted, with the classic Lions Club true blue fare clutched in hand….sausage wrapped in its cosy blanket of pure white bread with an artistic sweep of sauce adorning.
I shall console myself tonight with bubble and squeak with extra bacon.
I’ve never had a democracy sausage. I’ve never voted where they were available.
Perhaps you can suggest that your favourite worthy group hold a sausage sizzle at your next elections, all proceeds going to some wholesome and worthy cause. Perhaps that’s why they are known as a democracy sausage, being more fair fare than the political shenanigans.
Here you go, 1005:
https://democracysausage.org/nsw_local_government_elections_2024/m/@-33.50703,147.1289,z5.186273/
I vote at the nearby school and the democracy dining options are splendid.
That was a crap link. You get the gist.
ruby said:
Michael V said:
ruby said:They’re pretty good, but no, not the same.
I was doing delayed gratification, watching the happy throng passing by having just voted, with the classic Lions Club true blue fare clutched in hand….sausage wrapped in its cosy blanket of pure white bread with an artistic sweep of sauce adorning.
I shall console myself tonight with bubble and squeak with extra bacon.
I’ve never had a democracy sausage. I’ve never voted where they were available.
Perhaps you can suggest that your favourite worthy group hold a sausage sizzle at your next elections, all proceeds going to some wholesome and worthy cause. Perhaps that’s why they are known as a democracy sausage, being more fair fare than the political shenanigans.
I heard on the radio this morning that there was one Liberal person standing – she put her own paperwork in.
:)
OCDC said:
Here you go, 1005:https://democracysausage.org/nsw_local_government_elections_2024/m/@-33.50703,147.1289,z5.186273/
:)
Ta.
buffy said:
ruby said:
Michael V said:I’ve never had a democracy sausage. I’ve never voted where they were available.
Perhaps you can suggest that your favourite worthy group hold a sausage sizzle at your next elections, all proceeds going to some wholesome and worthy cause. Perhaps that’s why they are known as a democracy sausage, being more fair fare than the political shenanigans.
I heard on the radio this morning that there was one Liberal person standing – she put her own paperwork in.
:)
Thinking about that…won’t they have to throw her out of the party for not doing as she was told and leaving the lodgement of papers to the party?
buffy said:
buffy said:
ruby said:Perhaps you can suggest that your favourite worthy group hold a sausage sizzle at your next elections, all proceeds going to some wholesome and worthy cause. Perhaps that’s why they are known as a democracy sausage, being more fair fare than the political shenanigans.
I heard on the radio this morning that there was one Liberal person standing – she put her own paperwork in.
:)
Thinking about that…won’t they have to throw her out of the party for not doing as she was told and leaving the lodgement of papers to the party?
Oh, they’ll just put it down to her being a scatter-brained woman, who wasn’t being properly supervised by the men.
buffy said:
I am curious about something. I noticed on iNaturalist that they spell the common name of Hardenbergia violacea as False Sasparilla. I’ve always spelt that as Sarsparilla. I’ve checked my library and done a quick online search and there seems to be three ways of spellling it…Sarsaparilla/Sarsparilla/Sasparilla. Which spelling to you lot use?
We say sars the yanks say sass.
Peak Warming Man said:
A Sydney Council has installed a giant red banner to obscure harbour views after trees were vandalised in a luxury suburb.
In November last year, 290 trees were illegally destroyed in Woodford Bay, Lane Cove, in an attempt to free up a view of the harbour, which was being blocked by the trees.
The Lane Cove council has installed a double-sided red banner that says “Trees shouldn’t die for a view”.Well done.


roughbarked said:
buffy said:
I am curious about something. I noticed on iNaturalist that they spell the common name of Hardenbergia violacea as False Sasparilla. I’ve always spelt that as Sarsparilla. I’ve checked my library and done a quick online search and there seems to be three ways of spellling it…Sarsaparilla/Sarsparilla/Sasparilla. Which spelling to you lot use?
We say sars the yanks say sass.
They also say ‘wodder’ when referring to ‘water’, and ‘strobbery’ when referring to a ‘strawberry’.
And then they have the gall to make jokes about the difference between the written word and the spoken word in the French language.
RangerJudy 35m
September 14: Lady moved to the branch beside the nest early in the night, then moved back to the nest when disturbed by the Boobook swooping close – SE33 responded in alarm as well. The eagles began the day very early with a duet, then off. Lady brought leaves in early and a stick – then carried off a pellet. Around 8:30, currawong was swooping the eagles and close to the nest-SE34 on the alert. Both eagles came to the nest. Things quietened down, then both eagles brought fresh leaves in several times. First feed of the day from Lady when Dad brought a fish in at 12:17. SE34 even mantled over a piece, though Lady grabbed it back-both ate, though it was not big. Around 4pm, duet and mating by the nest, then Dad flew off – returning with a big mullet . Lady fed and both ate, side by side. Then another fish and feed at 17:15 – the day turned out well with fish prey. Then at 17:50 another fish to finish the day.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
I am curious about something. I noticed on iNaturalist that they spell the common name of Hardenbergia violacea as False Sasparilla. I’ve always spelt that as Sarsparilla. I’ve checked my library and done a quick online search and there seems to be three ways of spellling it…Sarsaparilla/Sarsparilla/Sasparilla. Which spelling to you lot use?
We say sars the yanks say sass.
They also say ‘wodder’ when referring to ‘water’, and ‘strobbery’ when referring to a ‘strawberry’.
And then they have the gall to make jokes about the difference between the written word and the spoken word in the French language.
and also why they don’t know how many r’s in strawberry.
Went for a walk in some bush with the lady rb. She had a fall and is OK but a bit sore.





roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
A Sydney Council has installed a giant red banner to obscure harbour views after trees were vandalised in a luxury suburb.
In November last year, 290 trees were illegally destroyed in Woodford Bay, Lane Cove, in an attempt to free up a view of the harbour, which was being blocked by the trees.
The Lane Cove council has installed a double-sided red banner that says “Trees shouldn’t die for a view”.Well done.
fuckers don’t get that the trees are the view, we’re still surprised that they could pull away 300 trees overnight without anyone noticing
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Add weather sensors to every airborne vehicle to share wind speeds wind shear etc
Build in virtual control tower software into every type of aircraft
Then start testing systems from 5km inwards
Something like that.
All those drone light shows have hundreds or thousands of coordinated synchronised drones flying in formation,
They have shared location signals with virtual control tower software, this helps keeps them spread apart as per rules.
They have collision avoidance, can work to a central computer or can act autonomously.
You could test such systems using flight simulation software.
Build up multiple aircraft slowly following spread apart rules.
Things like different elevations and minimum distances would have to be worked out carefully for different types of aircraft which have different speeds and sizes etc.
Not an aviation expert.
Some suggestions
Different elevations is something to work with.
Fully automated drones could work on the lowest elevation.
Remote piloted drones work at middle elevation.
Piloted aircraft work at the highest elevation.
Finding the maximum number of aircraft per cube 5km will be interesting.
I imagine that they will start of with two per 5km and slowly work upwards.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
A Sydney Council has installed a giant red banner to obscure harbour views after trees were vandalised in a luxury suburb.
In November last year, 290 trees were illegally destroyed in Woodford Bay, Lane Cove, in an attempt to free up a view of the harbour, which was being blocked by the trees.
The Lane Cove council has installed a double-sided red banner that says “Trees shouldn’t die for a view”.Well done.
fuckers don’t get that the trees are the view, we’re still surprised that they could pull away 300 trees overnight without anyone noticing
I have, i think, previously mentioned that when i worked for a local council, the council erected a few rather nicely designed picnic shelters in a coastal park, built from timber.
A resident from across the road remarked to the engineer that ‘it be a pity if something happened to them. Like ‘vandals’ burning them down’.
‘No problem’, said the engineer, ‘we’d just replace them. With structures built of heavy steel. Painted in fluoro colours.’
The shelters were not damaged.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:
fuckers don’t get that the trees are the view, we’re still surprised that they could pull away 300 trees overnight without anyone noticing
I have, i think, previously mentioned that when i worked for a local council, the council erected a few rather nicely designed picnic shelters in a coastal park, built from timber.
A resident from across the road remarked to the engineer that ‘it be a pity if something happened to them. Like ‘vandals’ burning them down’.
‘No problem’, said the engineer, ‘we’d just replace them. With structures built of heavy steel. Painted in fluoro colours.’
The shelters were not damaged.
OCDC said:
Here you go, 1005:https://democracysausage.org/nsw_local_government_elections_2024/m/@-33.50703,147.1289,z5.186273/
Nothing within cooee of me.
Oh well, one day
SCIENCE said:
…we’re still surprised that they could pull away 300 trees overnight without anyone noticing
Everyone around the place would have been aware of it, but they’d have been waiting to see if the perpetrators got away with it, then they would have done similar.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
…we’re still surprised that they could pull away 300 trees overnight without anyone noticing
Everyone around the place would have been aware of it, but they’d have been waiting to see if the perpetrators got away with it, then they would have done similar.
Chainsaws would have made a lot of noise.
ABC News:

Aww.
I remember when Sunday night with Ted (Robinson) and Lex on radio 2JJ was an entertainment highlight in the week.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
“Bloody wogs!”
One Sunday night, it was 2JJ’s ‘birthday’, its second, IIRC.
Ted and Lex were broadcasting from ‘Worlds of Fun’ games arcade in Kings Cross.
I was aboard ship at Garden Island, not on duty, listening on a transistor radio. They said that if you brought a birthday gift, you couldcome in, and play the games/machines for free.
So, i went below, made some Vegemite sandwiches, and then went out the gate and up the hill. The sandwiches were welcomed, and i had a great evening. Ended up playing Table Badminton with some of the ‘girls’ from Les Girls, then out for drinks with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDCDYze11OA
Lex Marinos has died.
good evening
monkey skipper said:
good evening

Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening
hey bubblecar!
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening
hey bubblecar!
Had a refreshing holibobs, all told?
monkey skipper said:
good evening
So far so good. Howzit garn?
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
hey bubblecar!
Had a refreshing holibobs, all told?
Yeah .. my tendinosis is flaring up a bit but that is manageable
Kingy said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening
So far so good. Howzit garn?
Yeah Cruisin’ was at work today and will be tomorrow and then on Monday back on deck with the Mon- Fri job as well.
You?
Bubblecar said:
Going to watch The Curse of Peladon tonight, a Pertwee classic.One might also say a Troughton classic, since Patrick’s son David starred as King Peladon.
Love the voice of Arcturus in this story, wish I could speak like that.
Mind you there’s some probably some filter in Cubase that would enable that.
monkey skipper said:
Kingy said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening
So far so good. Howzit garn?
Yeah Cruisin’ was at work today and will be tomorrow and then on Monday back on deck with the Mon- Fri job as well.
You?
Trying to slow down the work a bit so that I can have my xmas holiday before next xmas. lol ‘sif.
Otherwise all good here, diggin’ holes, fillin’ ‘em in again, squirting water, same old, same old…
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:hey bubblecar!
Had a refreshing holibobs, all told?
Yeah .. my tendinosis is flaring up a bit but that is manageable
With which limb(s) is it associated?
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Going to watch The Curse of Peladon tonight, a Pertwee classic.One might also say a Troughton classic, since Patrick’s son David starred as King Peladon.
Love the voice of Arcturus in this story, wish I could speak like that.
Mind you there’s some probably some filter in Cubase that would enable that.
I am malfunction, remove the first some.
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:Had a refreshing holibobs, all told?
Yeah .. my tendinosis is flaring up a bit but that is manageable
With which limb(s) is it associated?
legs
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:Yeah .. my tendinosis is flaring up a bit but that is manageable
With which limb(s) is it associated?
legs
Damn.
My feet give me no end of aches and pains these days, but they have a heavy burden to bear.
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:With which limb(s) is it associated?
legs
Damn.
My feet give me no end of aches and pains these days, but they have a heavy burden to bear.
I can work , so no issue there just annoying more than anything..
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:legs
Damn.
My feet give me no end of aches and pains these days, but they have a heavy burden to bear.
I can work , so no issue there just annoying more than anything..
Goodo. Paracetamol is your friend.
Just watching an episode of Kingswood Country in memory of Lex Marinos.
Still funny.
Also, I still have my Kingswood.
Kingy said:
Just watching an episode of Kingswood Country in memory of Lex Marinos.Still funny.
Also, I still have my Kingswood.
i lived next door to him for a couple of years.
sarahs mum said:
Kingy said:
Just watching an episode of Kingswood Country in memory of Lex Marinos.Still funny.
Also, I still have my Kingswood.
i lived next door to him for a couple of years.
Marinos died in Sydney on 13 September 2024, aged 75. His family announced on social media that he died “peacefully… at home, at a moment of his choosing, surrounded by family and the sounds of Bob Dylan.”
Kingy said:
Just watching an episode of Kingswood Country in memory of Lex Marinos.Still funny.
Also, I still have my Kingswood.
I only remember him vaguely from Kingswood Country, which I rarely watched, but it was funny in its way.
My Mum had a big silver Kingswood in my high school days, which also made it to Tasmania ‘cos it was a good car to take on the ferry, stuffed with luggage.
In later use it was mainly used to tow the firewood trailer.
sarahs mum said:
Kingy said:
Just watching an episode of Kingswood Country in memory of Lex Marinos.Still funny.
Also, I still have my Kingswood.
i lived next door to him for a couple of years.
Nice.
It’s cool how some of the forumites have either had interesting pasts, or have evolved into having interesting “nows”.
Has anyone heard from mollwollfumble lately? If you look up “eccentric” in the dictionary, I’m sure you’ll find his pic.
Kingy said:
sarahs mum said:
Kingy said:
Just watching an episode of Kingswood Country in memory of Lex Marinos.Still funny.
Also, I still have my Kingswood.
i lived next door to him for a couple of years.
Nice.
It’s cool how some of the forumites have either had interesting pasts, or have evolved into having interesting “nows”.
Has anyone heard from mollwollfumble lately? If you look up “eccentric” in the dictionary, I’m sure you’ll find his pic.
I only talked to him a few times. his very young daughter had a food obsession and he made sure the neighbours knew she was not starving and was actually on calorie control..

just before the hail hit Hobart.
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
Just watching an episode of Kingswood Country in memory of Lex Marinos.Still funny.
Also, I still have my Kingswood.
I only remember him vaguely from Kingswood Country, which I rarely watched, but it was funny in its way.
My Mum had a big silver Kingswood in my high school days, which also made it to Tasmania ‘cos it was a good car to take on the ferry, stuffed with luggage.
In later use it was mainly used to tow the firewood trailer.
I don’t often post selfies, but this was in 1985 when selfies weren’t invented yet, I had to get someone else to take it.
I call this “Kingy, with ex girlfriend and current Kingswood”.
sarahs mum said:
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just before the hail hit Hobart.
Beautiful
https://www.facebook.com/1342583879/videos/538078745558549
Kingy said:
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
Just watching an episode of Kingswood Country in memory of Lex Marinos.Still funny.
Also, I still have my Kingswood.
I only remember him vaguely from Kingswood Country, which I rarely watched, but it was funny in its way.
My Mum had a big silver Kingswood in my high school days, which also made it to Tasmania ‘cos it was a good car to take on the ferry, stuffed with luggage.
In later use it was mainly used to tow the firewood trailer.
I don’t often post selfies, but this was in 1985 when selfies weren’t invented yet, I had to get someone else to take it.
I call this “Kingy, with ex girlfriend and current Kingswood”.

sarahs mum said:
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just before the hail hit Hobart.
Magnificent snap.

exactly average score.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 3 degrees at the back door and overcast. There has been some showers during the night. We are forecast a cloudy 13 degrees today.
Going to the bush. The tractor has to be taken back. And there are a couple of trees down on the walking tracks that need to be cut. And I’m sure there will be some things for me to photograph. Should just about be some Chiloglottis (bird orchids) out by now and we must almost be ready for some pink fingers and maybe some waxlips.
Two degrees here.
Better go see how my tomatoes look.
10/50. Nine guesses.
20/20 here!
But then I only got 2 more so
30/50
Morning pilgrims, today I learned about Ukraine liberation, Flora and Global Politics.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, today I learned about Ukraine liberation, Flora and Global Politics.
You chose to remain ignorant of US Politics then?
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Sunday quiz10/50. Nine guesses.
5/10
30/50
Optimum score.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, today I learned about Ukraine liberation, Flora and Global Politics.
You chose to remain ignorant of US Politics then?
Why not? A lot of Americans seem to choose to
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, today I learned about Ukraine liberation, Flora and Global Politics.
You chose to remain ignorant of US Politics then?
It wasn’t in VBT at the time.

I got a FB reminder of something I posted a decade ago, which is that the Olsen twins are fraternal, not monozygotic.
dv said:
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I got a FB reminder of something I posted a decade ago, which is that the Olsen twins are fraternal, not monozygotic.
I can’t tell from that photo.
dv said:
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I got a FB reminder of something I posted a decade ago, which is that the Olsen twins are fraternal, not monozygotic.
Who are they again, and what were they famous for?
party_pants said:
dv said:
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I got a FB reminder of something I posted a decade ago, which is that the Olsen twins are fraternal, not monozygotic.
Who are they again, and what were they famous for?
They’re the Olsen twins, maybe singers or actors.
party_pants said:
Actors, but you read more about them here:
dv said:
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I got a FB reminder of something I posted a decade ago, which is that the Olsen twins are fraternal, not monozygotic.
Who are they again, and what were they famous for?
party_pants said:
dv said:
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I got a FB reminder of something I posted a decade ago, which is that the Olsen twins are fraternal, not monozygotic.
Who are they again, and what were they famous for?
LMBTFY
“Mary-Kate Olsen and Ashley Fuller Olsen (born June 13, 1986), also known as the Olsen twins, are American fashion designers and former actresses. Mary-Kate and Ashley made their acting debut as infants playing Michelle Tanner on the television sitcom Full House (1987–1995).”
party_pants said:
dv said:
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I got a FB reminder of something I posted a decade ago, which is that the Olsen twins are fraternal, not monozygotic.
Who are they again, and what were they famous for?
They are Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen. They are famous for appearing as Michelle Tanner in the sitcom Full House, which ran from 1987-1995. They had a few acting gigs after that and some modelling work and design. They’ve been out of the spotlight for a couple of decades.
But my point is that they look so similar that they were able to play the same character without audiences noticing, and indeed in my view are more similar than most “identical “ twins, when really they only share as much DNA as a typical pair of sisters.
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
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I got a FB reminder of something I posted a decade ago, which is that the Olsen twins are fraternal, not monozygotic.
Who are they again, and what were they famous for?
They are Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen. They are famous for appearing as Michelle Tanner in the sitcom Full House, which ran from 1987-1995. They had a few acting gigs after that and some modelling work and design. They’ve been out of the spotlight for a couple of decades.
But my point is that they look so similar that they were able to play the same character without audiences noticing, and indeed in my view are more similar than most “identical “ twins, when really they only share as much DNA as a typical pair of sisters.
It vaguely rings a bell. They hired twins to play the same role because there were limits on how many hours the children coul work.
It is just a coincidence then that they look so similar. A strange quirk of fate and genetics.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-15/nitazene-detections-australia-overdose-deaths-broadmeadows/104327798
—
So the deaths this week to heroin are more than that…
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/r6se5nJZak5YC8Uo/?mibextid=D5vuiz
Aeroplane window reveals versus windows
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/r6se5nJZak5YC8Uo/?mibextid=D5vuizAeroplane window reveals versus windows
but I digress…
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/r6se5nJZak5YC8Uo/?mibextid=D5vuizAeroplane window reveals versus windows
Airliner windows are very tough.
There’s no way that young woman, or just about any passenger before her, was going to break the actual window.
‘Mythbusters’ put a bullet right through a window on a pressurised airliner fuselage. The window stayed intact (except for a 9mm hole), and the effects inside the cabin were unspectacular, to say the least.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/r6se5nJZak5YC8Uo/?mibextid=D5vuizAeroplane window reveals versus windows
Airliner windows are very tough.
There’s no way that young woman, or just about any passenger before her, was going to break the actual window.
‘Mythbusters’ put a bullet right through a window on a pressurised airliner fuselage. The window stayed intact (except for a 9mm hole), and the effects inside the cabin were unspectacular, to say the least.
But….but…Goldfinger!
hello good people…
monkey skipper said:
hello good people…
Evening monkey.
Just scoffed my dinner of tuna casserole and now I’m sweating ‘cos of the cayenne pepper.
monkey skipper said:
hello good people…
see all good people.
>chess thread.
a good guy with a gun would have prevented this
A woman has died after being struck by a falling tree branch in Sydney’s south-west on Sunday afternoon as cold and damaging winds sweep across New South Wales.
Neophyte said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/r6se5nJZak5YC8Uo/?mibextid=D5vuizAeroplane window reveals versus windows
Airliner windows are very tough.
There’s no way that young woman, or just about any passenger before her, was going to break the actual window.
‘Mythbusters’ put a bullet right through a window on a pressurised airliner fuselage. The window stayed intact (except for a 9mm hole), and the effects inside the cabin were unspectacular, to say the least.
But….but…Goldfinger!
You can’t believe everything you see in Bond films, y’know.
In ‘From Russia With Love’ (1963), the character Kerim Bey shoots and kills Soviet agent Krilencu withthe rifle the Bond has brought with him.
‘Q’ had described this as an ‘AR-7 sniper rifle’. It’s nothing of the sort.
An AR-7 it is, but, like all AR-7s, it fires .22 LR ammunition. Shooting it from the range that Kerim Bey did, it’s unlikely to have caused an inconveniencing wound to Krilencu, let alone kill him.
Have done sufficient housework today that the house is ready to receive Mother.
OCDC said:
Have done sufficient housework today that the house is ready to receive Mother.
Do you have to stand by the door, salute, and report, ‘OCDC living quarters, for inspection, ma’am!’?
captain_spalding said:
OCDC said:Oh she won’t obviously judge it, but she’ll do stuff when I’m in bed and I’ll feel guilty.Have done sufficient housework today that the house is ready to receive Mother.Do you have to stand by the door, salute, and report, ‘OCDC living quarters, for inspection, ma’am!’?
OCDC said:
captain_spalding said:OCDC said:Oh she won’t obviously judge it, but she’ll do stuff when I’m in bed and I’ll feel guilty.Have done sufficient housework today that the house is ready to receive Mother.Do you have to stand by the door, salute, and report, ‘OCDC living quarters, for inspection, ma’am!’?
Yeah, she will.
A couple of times when i stayed overnight with Spalding Jr. at his place, i’d be vacuuming and cleaning.
Got to the stage where Jr. rang Mrs. S, and demanded that she order me to stop doing it. :)
OCDC said:
captain_spalding said:OCDC said:Oh she won’t obviously judge it, but she’ll do stuff when I’m in bed and I’ll feel guilty.Have done sufficient housework today that the house is ready to receive Mother.Do you have to stand by the door, salute, and report, ‘OCDC living quarters, for inspection, ma’am!’?
need to make a list for her.
JudgeMental said:
OCDC said:lolcaptain_spalding said:need to make a list for her.Do you have to stand by the door, salute, and report, ‘OCDC living quarters, for inspection, ma’am!’?Oh she won’t obviously judge it, but she’ll do stuff when I’m in bed and I’ll feel guilty.
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
hello good people…
Evening monkey.
Just scoffed my dinner of tuna casserole and now I’m sweating ‘cos of the cayenne pepper.
whoopsie … on the cayenne :)
I’m at the redoubt and it is sofa king cold.
Over.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m at the redoubt and it is sofa king cold.
Over.
put a cardi on.
Port Adelaide fined $20,000 over Ken Hinkley’s Jack Ginnivan sledge
Story by Peter Ryan • 48m • 3 min read
Port Adelaide have been fined $20,000 for Ken Hinkley taunting Hawthorn forward Jack Ginnivan after the Power’s upset finals win on Friday night at Adelaide Oval, however it will not be included in the club’s soft cap.
The AFL took a dim view of the incident a week after Giants official Jason McCartney cost his club $20,000 when he bumped into Sydney forward Tom Papley at quarter-time of the qualifying final as the teams headed to their huddles.
Port Adelaide coach Ken Hinkley exchanging words with Hawthorn players after the match.
The AFL’s general counsel Stephen Meade said in a statement the league was disappointed the incident overshadowed the final.
“We understand it is a passionate game with a lot at stake for all clubs, however Ken made a decision to engage with opposition players post-match – a decision he has since admitted was the wrong one,” Meade said.
“Ken has acknowledged that his emotions got the better of him in the moment, however as a senior coach his actions fell well below what is expected by the AFL.
“As we reiterated last week, opposition officials and players inappropriately engaging each other is something we don’t want to see because of the potential to escalate and the example that it sets for football at lower levels, and we are disappointed the moment took away from what was one of the great finals matches.”
Hinkley apologised in an interview in the rooms after the game, in the post-game media conference, and, in a radio interview on Saturday, admitted he had let emotion get the better of him.
Hawthorn skipper James Sicily, who had a crack back at the Port Adelaide coach as the two teams assembled to carry Luke Breust off after his 300th game, also suggested in an interview the morning after the final that Hinkley may have directed comments at the opposition on previous occasions.
“It’s not the first time Ken’s done that, and it won’t be the last,” Sicily said.
The Hawks were incensed that a senior coach had chosen to direct his comments at an opposition player immediately after a win.
They thought it was poor form for Hinkley to make fun of Ginnivan’s social media post to former Collingwood teammate Brodie Grundy where he dismissed the prospect of Hawthorn losing to Port Adelaide with the Instagram post “See u in 14 days”.
Grundy’s team Sydney were already in the preliminary final and were the Hawks’ next opponent if they defeated Port Adelaide. Ginnivan told Hawks teammates afterwards he wished he had not posted the message.
Port Adelaide understood it was wrong but thought it should be considered banter after an emotional week that saw Hinkley’s coaching future questioned after the team’s pathetic performance against Geelong in the qualifying final.
The league made changes at the start of the year to stop coaches on the boundary line making whistling noises and interacting with officials on the bench in what they described at the time as a trend they were concerned about.
Earlier this season North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson received a $20,000 fine and a suspended two-match penalty after abusing St Kilda’s Jimmy Webster as they walked to their huddle in a pre-season match after Webster had concussed Kangaroos’ skipper Jy Simpkin.
Hawks captain James Sicily reveals his only regret as AFL investigates Port Adelaide coach Ken Hinkley for his role in ugly altercation
DV mentioned the other day that the TEMU ads were crappy stuff.
*competition mode.

F’kn Boris.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-15/rain-spell-flooding-central-europe-poland-romania/104354386
we mean there’s a solution to this too

…

and it might even go a little way to solving the failure of people to think critically, just label all images as potentially 爱generated duh
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees at the back door and lightly overcast. We are forecast 13 degrees with possible showers.
I haven’t decided exactly what today’s activities will be, but there will be some weeding as the FOGO bin goes out tomorrow and they can have my more invasive weeds rather than my compost bin eating them.
Another rather chilly one in the middle of the island, heading for 13.
Amongst other stuff, I dreamt that the ex-Ross sister had some strange new pets called sporehorns. They were like complicated spiders seemingly made of wood, but very active.
There were also younger ones that just looked like blocks of bark-covered wood, but with eyes. I’d never heard of sporehorns so I asked her if they were plants or animals, but she didn’t know.
She had a set of encyclopaedias but the S volume was missing, so we couldn’t look them up, but then I remembered my computer was in another room.
I typed “sporehorns” into google but as soon as I hit enter, an annoying car ad appeared. It wasn’t on the screen though, it was a paper ad wrapped around the screen. I ripped it off but there was another one underneath. I realised there was a whole wad of these paper ads folded around the screen, but the time I’d torn them all off I woke up.
So I never got to read what the internets say about sporehorns.
We had -1.5 overnight but all my tomatoes look unharmed.
Bubblecar said:
Another rather chilly one in the middle of the island, heading for 13.
Amongst other stuff, I dreamt that the ex-Ross sister had some strange new pets called sporehorns. They were like complicated spiders seemingly made of wood, but very active.
There were also younger ones that just looked like blocks of bark-covered wood, but with eyes. I’d never heard of sporehorns so I asked her if they were plants or animals, but she didn’t know.
She had a set of encyclopaedias but the S volume was missing, so we couldn’t look them up, but then I remembered my computer was in another room.
I typed “sporehorns” into google but as soon as I hit enter, an annoying car ad appeared. It wasn’t on the screen though, it was a paper ad wrapped around the screen. I ripped it off but there was another one underneath. I realised there was a whole wad of these paper ads folded around the screen, but the time I’d torn them all off I woke up.
So I never got to read what the internets say about sporehorns.
but now, thanks to the wonders of modern
https://hyg.ipm.illinois.edu/article.php?id=976
technology, you can
¡
SCIENCE said:
Quite pretty, too.Bubblecar said:
Another rather chilly one in the middle of the island, heading for 13.
Amongst other stuff, I dreamt that the ex-Ross sister had some strange new pets called sporehorns. They were like complicated spiders seemingly made of wood, but very active.
There were also younger ones that just looked like blocks of bark-covered wood, but with eyes. I’d never heard of sporehorns so I asked her if they were plants or animals, but she didn’t know.
She had a set of encyclopaedias but the S volume was missing, so we couldn’t look them up, but then I remembered my computer was in another room.
I typed “sporehorns” into google but as soon as I hit enter, an annoying car ad appeared. It wasn’t on the screen though, it was a paper ad wrapped around the screen. I ripped it off but there was another one underneath. I realised there was a whole wad of these paper ads folded around the screen, but the time I’d torn them all off I woke up.
So I never got to read what the internets say about sporehorns.
but now, thanks to the wonders of modern
https://hyg.ipm.illinois.edu/article.php?id=976
technology, you can
¡

Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:Quite pretty, too.Bubblecar said:
Another rather chilly one in the middle of the island, heading for 13.
Amongst other stuff, I dreamt that the ex-Ross sister had some strange new pets called sporehorns. They were like complicated spiders seemingly made of wood, but very active.
There were also younger ones that just looked like blocks of bark-covered wood, but with eyes. I’d never heard of sporehorns so I asked her if they were plants or animals, but she didn’t know.
She had a set of encyclopaedias but the S volume was missing, so we couldn’t look them up, but then I remembered my computer was in another room.
I typed “sporehorns” into google but as soon as I hit enter, an annoying car ad appeared. It wasn’t on the screen though, it was a paper ad wrapped around the screen. I ripped it off but there was another one underneath. I realised there was a whole wad of these paper ads folded around the screen, but the time I’d torn them all off I woke up.
So I never got to read what the internets say about sporehorns.
but now, thanks to the wonders of modern
https://hyg.ipm.illinois.edu/article.php?id=976
technology, you can
¡
:) lovely.
Greetings
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
Bubblecar said:
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
I get that from time to time but it usually goes away after a few days. Same with ringing tinnitus (which is happening now).
Both types are annoying.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
I get that from time to time but it usually goes away after a few days. Same with ringing tinnitus (which is happening now).
Both types are annoying.
I’m not sure what type I have is, but it never goes away. A single loud tone in my left ear and a slightly lower tone in my right, with the additional imagined sound of many cicadas at times.
Silence is pure torture for me.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
I get that from time to time but it usually goes away after a few days. Same with ringing tinnitus (which is happening now).
Both types are annoying.
I have a background hiss in the left ear which is worse when I open my mouth wide. That’s now been joined by the pulse.
I’ll mention it to the GP if it’s still there at my next appointment.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
I get that from time to time but it usually goes away after a few days. Same with ringing tinnitus (which is happening now).
Both types are annoying.
I’m not sure what type I have is, but it never goes away. A single loud tone in my left ear and a slightly lower tone in my right, with the additional imagined sound of many cicadas at times.
Silence is pure torture for me.
A friend has bad tinnitus, from working on jet engines in the RAAF.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
I get that from time to time but it usually goes away after a few days. Same with ringing tinnitus (which is happening now).
Both types are annoying.
I’m not sure what type I have is, but it never goes away. A single loud tone in my left ear and a slightly lower tone in my right, with the additional imagined sound of many cicadas at times.
Silence is pure torture for me.
Sounds awful, my sympathies.
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:I get that from time to time but it usually goes away after a few days. Same with ringing tinnitus (which is happening now).
Both types are annoying.
I’m not sure what type I have is, but it never goes away. A single loud tone in my left ear and a slightly lower tone in my right, with the additional imagined sound of many cicadas at times.
Silence is pure torture for me.
A friend has bad tinnitus, from working on jet engines in the RAAF.
Sounds familiar. Mine’s from aeroplanes & racing cars.
Bubblecar said:
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:I get that from time to time but it usually goes away after a few days. Same with ringing tinnitus (which is happening now).
Both types are annoying.
I’m not sure what type I have is, but it never goes away. A single loud tone in my left ear and a slightly lower tone in my right, with the additional imagined sound of many cicadas at times.
Silence is pure torture for me.
Sounds awful, my sympathies.
Ta. I did try to look after my hearing after experiencing how deaf my father was, but I didn’t do a good enough job.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:I’m not sure what type I have is, but it never goes away. A single loud tone in my left ear and a slightly lower tone in my right, with the additional imagined sound of many cicadas at times.
Silence is pure torture for me.
A friend has bad tinnitus, from working on jet engines in the RAAF.
Sounds familiar. Mine’s from aeroplanes & racing cars.
Yeah. Mine’s left ear continuous from sitting on top of amps, pianos, and machinery etc
Bubblecar said:
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
I also have a health whinge. I haven’t done a good sciatic pinch for a long time – just lifted the mattress to put a new fitted sheet on and got stuck…had to wall walk to the futon bed and lie down and do some stretches. Still not properly fixed with those, but better. Then I came and sat on my stool at the computer and all the muscles that were squishing the nerve just let go. Truly a pain in the buttock muscle that one.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
I also have a health whinge. I haven’t done a good sciatic pinch for a long time – just lifted the mattress to put a new fitted sheet on and got stuck…had to wall walk to the futon bed and lie down and do some stretches. Still not properly fixed with those, but better. Then I came and sat on my stool at the computer and all the muscles that were squishing the nerve just let go. Truly a pain in the buttock muscle that one.
Doesn’t sound like fun.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
I get that from time to time but it usually goes away after a few days. Same with ringing tinnitus (which is happening now).
Both types are annoying.
I’m not sure what type I have is, but it never goes away. A single loud tone in my left ear and a slightly lower tone in my right, with the additional imagined sound of many cicadas at times.
Silence is pure torture for me.
Same for me. A zillion crickets in one ear and a billion cicadas in the other.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
I also have a health whinge. I haven’t done a good sciatic pinch for a long time – just lifted the mattress to put a new fitted sheet on and got stuck…had to wall walk to the futon bed and lie down and do some stretches. Still not properly fixed with those, but better. Then I came and sat on my stool at the computer and all the muscles that were squishing the nerve just let go. Truly a pain in the buttock muscle that one.
I don’t envy you that one.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
I also have a health whinge. I haven’t done a good sciatic pinch for a long time – just lifted the mattress to put a new fitted sheet on and got stuck…had to wall walk to the futon bed and lie down and do some stretches. Still not properly fixed with those, but better. Then I came and sat on my stool at the computer and all the muscles that were squishing the nerve just let go. Truly a pain in the buttock muscle that one.
Bummer.
:(
Right, in the interests of being able to walk in the cemetery with the orchid fanatic tomorrow morning, I think I will lie down and read for the afternoon.
buffy said:
Right, in the interests of being able to walk in the cemetery with the orchid fanatic tomorrow morning, I think I will lie down and read for the afternoon.
Sounds good.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
I also have a health whinge. I haven’t done a good sciatic pinch for a long time – just lifted the mattress to put a new fitted sheet on and got stuck…had to wall walk to the futon bed and lie down and do some stretches. Still not properly fixed with those, but better. Then I came and sat on my stool at the computer and all the muscles that were squishing the nerve just let go. Truly a pain in the buttock muscle that one.
Buffy have you ever had any physical treatment on the area, be it traditional or alternative medicine?
alphabet swarms with possibilities
the monkeys swing out of the trees
it is my gift this tapping at the keys
yes derange these letters does me
here primate have’t savant abilities
Ian said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Monday health whinge: Pulsatile Tinnitus in left ear. Been going for weeks now.
I also have a health whinge. I haven’t done a good sciatic pinch for a long time – just lifted the mattress to put a new fitted sheet on and got stuck…had to wall walk to the futon bed and lie down and do some stretches. Still not properly fixed with those, but better. Then I came and sat on my stool at the computer and all the muscles that were squishing the nerve just let go. Truly a pain in the buttock muscle that one.
Buffy have you ever had any physical treatment on the area, be it traditional or alternative medicine?
No. It’s more of a cramp effect but the sciatic nerve gets in the way. I do maintenance stretches several times a week, but I must have twisted awkwardly when lifting the big mattress.
buffy said:
Ian said:
buffy said:I also have a health whinge. I haven’t done a good sciatic pinch for a long time – just lifted the mattress to put a new fitted sheet on and got stuck…had to wall walk to the futon bed and lie down and do some stretches. Still not properly fixed with those, but better. Then I came and sat on my stool at the computer and all the muscles that were squishing the nerve just let go. Truly a pain in the buttock muscle that one.
Buffy have you ever had any physical treatment on the area, be it traditional or alternative medicine?
No. It’s more of a cramp effect but the sciatic nerve gets in the way. I do maintenance stretches several times a week, but I must have twisted awkwardly when lifting the big mattress.
I’ve mentioned before I have multiple soft tissue injuries to my spine resulting in lower back pain and sometimes sciatica. I found relief in the form of manipulation by chiropractors and medical doctors, with or without some valium in me.. also deep tissue massage.
Nowadays I dose myself with valium and hang from my inverter for a couple of minutes.
Ian said:
buffy said:
Ian said:Buffy have you ever had any physical treatment on the area, be it traditional or alternative medicine?
No. It’s more of a cramp effect but the sciatic nerve gets in the way. I do maintenance stretches several times a week, but I must have twisted awkwardly when lifting the big mattress.
I’ve mentioned before I have multiple soft tissue injuries to my spine resulting in lower back pain and sometimes sciatica. I found relief in the form of manipulation by chiropractors and medical doctors, with or without some valium in me.. also deep tissue massage.
Nowadays I dose myself with valium and hang from my inverter for a couple of minutes.
CHIROPRACTOS
Just received my first e-mail from the local Lib, saying why we should all vote for him at the just passed local election :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just received my first e-mail from the local Lib, saying why we should all vote for him at the just passed local election :)
He did his own application forms?
Home is the hunter, home from the hill.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just received my first e-mail from the local Lib, saying why we should all vote for him at the just passed local election :)
Ha!
I suppose he wasn’t on th voting paper either.
dinner will be rhymes with, vaguely be generous now, carrion bland pegs on ghost, in other news I have a new phone, updated the handheld electrical rectangle shortly ago, well my carer did most of it, my friends on the bus tried to help me and weren’t much help at all
oh and look it has carrot with it, grated carrot, car’s going to be having paroxysms
transition said:
dinner will be rhymes with, vaguely be generous now, carrion bland pegs on ghost, in other news I have a new phone, updated the handheld electrical rectangle shortly ago, well my carer did most of it, my friends on the bus tried to help me and weren’t much help at alloh and look it has carrot with it, grated carrot, car’s going to be having paroxysms
Enjoy. I couldn’t work out what “carrion” is though.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
dinner will be rhymes with, vaguely be generous now, carrion bland pegs on ghost, in other news I have a new phone, updated the handheld electrical rectangle shortly ago, well my carer did most of it, my friends on the bus tried to help me and weren’t much help at alloh and look it has carrot with it, grated carrot, car’s going to be having paroxysms
Enjoy. I couldn’t work out what “carrion” is though.
I don’t believe it
and to the weather desk now, going to get down around 0C tonight, so what’s that 273.15K maybe, sort of the other half of 0K which I knew to be -273 point something C
should go back read my old physics book, I learnies, i’m refreshing give me a moment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Properties_of_water#Triple_point
“ The temperature and pressure at which ordinary solid, liquid, and gaseous water coexist in equilibrium is a triple point of water. Since 1954, this point had been used to define the base unit of temperature, the kelvin, but, starting in 2019, the kelvin is now defined using the Boltzmann constant, rather than the triple point of water.
Due to the existence of many polymorphs (forms) of ice, water has other triple points, which have either three polymorphs of ice or two polymorphs of ice and liquid in equilibrium. Gustav Heinrich Johann Apollon Tammann in Göttingen produced data on several other triple points in the early 20th century. Kamb and others documented further triple points in the 1960s…”
brian explosion
Astrofest 2024 is coming!
We’ll see you at Curtin Stadium
for Perth’s free astronomy festival on
Saturday November 9th 2024
https://events.humanitix.com/astrofest-2024
Ian said:
buffy said:
Ian said:Buffy have you ever had any physical treatment on the area, be it traditional or alternative medicine?
No. It’s more of a cramp effect but the sciatic nerve gets in the way. I do maintenance stretches several times a week, but I must have twisted awkwardly when lifting the big mattress.
I’ve mentioned before I have multiple soft tissue injuries to my spine resulting in lower back pain and sometimes sciatica. I found relief in the form of manipulation by chiropractors and medical doctors, with or without some valium in me.. also deep tissue massage.
Nowadays I dose myself with valium and hang from my inverter for a couple of minutes.
Mine is possibly relatable to a young Boxer dog pulling suddenly in an unexpected direction over 20 years ago. But I can’t be sure. Once in a blue moon I manage to catch the nerve, presumably between muscle bundles. Today it was a miracle cure when I sat in a particular position.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just received my first e-mail from the local Lib, saying why we should all vote for him at the just passed local election :)
How did they get your email addy?
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
dinner will be rhymes with, vaguely be generous now, carrion bland pegs on ghost, in other news I have a new phone, updated the handheld electrical rectangle shortly ago, well my carer did most of it, my friends on the bus tried to help me and weren’t much help at alloh and look it has carrot with it, grated carrot, car’s going to be having paroxysms
Enjoy. I couldn’t work out what “carrion” is though.
I don’t believe it
and to the weather desk now, going to get down around 0C tonight, so what’s that 273.15K maybe, sort of the other half of 0K which I knew to be -273 point something C
should go back read my old physics book, I learnies, i’m refreshing give me a moment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Properties_of_water#Triple_point
“ The temperature and pressure at which ordinary solid, liquid, and gaseous water coexist in equilibrium is a triple point of water. Since 1954, this point had been used to define the base unit of temperature, the kelvin, but, starting in 2019, the kelvin is now defined using the Boltzmann constant, rather than the triple point of water.Due to the existence of many polymorphs (forms) of ice, water has other triple points, which have either three polymorphs of ice or two polymorphs of ice and liquid in equilibrium. Gustav Heinrich Johann Apollon Tammann in Göttingen produced data on several other triple points in the early 20th century. Kamb and others documented further triple points in the 1960s…”
brian explosion
Heading for 3 here tonight but on Thursday we’re back down to a min of 1 and max of 11.
Although I’m a lover of winter even I’m starting to want a little more warmth by now. Only a little, mind.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just received my first e-mail from the local Lib, saying why we should all vote for him at the just passed local election :)
Ha!
I suppose he wasn’t on th voting paper either.
Don’t know, there were some Libs, but I didn’t notice their names.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just received my first e-mail from the local Lib, saying why we should all vote for him at the just passed local election :)
How did they get your email addy?
I don’t know.
Same way all the other junk mail senders do I suppose.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
dinner will be rhymes with, vaguely be generous now, carrion bland pegs on ghost, in other news I have a new phone, updated the handheld electrical rectangle shortly ago, well my carer did most of it, my friends on the bus tried to help me and weren’t much help at all
oh and look it has carrot with it, grated carrot, car’s going to be having paroxysms
Enjoy. I couldn’t work out what “carrion” is though.
I don’t believe it
and to the weather desk now, going to get down around 0C tonight, so what’s that 273.15K maybe, sort of the other half of 0K which I knew to be -273 point something C
should go back read my old physics book, I learnies, i’m refreshing give me a moment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Properties_of_water#Triple_point
“ The temperature and pressure at which ordinary solid, liquid, and gaseous water coexist in equilibrium is a triple point of water. Since 1954, this point had been used to define the base unit of temperature, the kelvin, but, starting in 2019, the kelvin is now defined using the Boltzmann constant, rather than the triple point of water.Due to the existence of many polymorphs (forms) of ice, water has other triple points, which have either three polymorphs of ice or two polymorphs of ice and liquid in equilibrium. Gustav Heinrich Johann Apollon Tammann in Göttingen produced data on several other triple points in the early 20th century. Kamb and others documented further triple points in the 1960s…”
brian explosion
more important than civics
i broke my hielan’ coo mug.
sarahs mum said:
i broke my hielan’ coo mug.
Damn. Can it be mended?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
i broke my hielan’ coo mug.
Damn. Can it be mended?
no. it shattered itself.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
i broke my hielan’ coo mug.
Damn. Can it be mended?
no. it shattered itself.
Oh well, there’s loads more available – it’s a very popular mug theme
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Damn. Can it be mended?
no. it shattered itself.
Oh well, there’s loads more available – it’s a very popular mug theme
i can’t find my mug there. But there are some goodies.
it’s okay. I will just be happy with my tartan mugs.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:no. it shattered itself.
Oh well, there’s loads more available – it’s a very popular mug theme
i can’t find my mug there. But there are some goodies.
it’s okay. I will just be happy with my tartan mugs.
I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Oh well, there’s loads more available – it’s a very popular mug theme
i can’t find my mug there. But there are some goodies.
it’s okay. I will just be happy with my tartan mugs.
I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
I have a couple of red le Creuset mugs getting that way. But I do love.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:i can’t find my mug there. But there are some goodies.
it’s okay. I will just be happy with my tartan mugs.
I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
I have a couple of red le Creuset mugs getting that way. But I do love.
They are pleasing.

Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
I have a couple of red le Creuset mugs getting that way. But I do love.
They are pleasing.
…or this slightly different style.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
I have a couple of red le Creuset mugs getting that way. But I do love.
They are pleasing.
that’s them.
temu ad.

Stupid magpies. Go to sleep!
dv said:
Stupid magpies. Go to sleep!
Too much street lighting.
Looks like classic FM is off the air.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees at the back door and just starting to get light. We are forecast a cloudy 15 degrees today.
Bakery Breakfast with friend from Hamilton, a visit to the local cemetery to meet an orchid buff and archery late afternoon. I may pull some more weeds in the middle bit there.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Oh well, there’s loads more available – it’s a very popular mug theme
i can’t find my mug there. But there are some goodies.
it’s okay. I will just be happy with my tartan mugs.
I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
Po shop workers tip: Squirt of bleach, fill with water. Leave overnight then wash as usual. Cleans tanin stained teacups like a dream.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:i can’t find my mug there. But there are some goodies.
it’s okay. I will just be happy with my tartan mugs.
I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
Po shop workers tip: Squirt of bleach, fill with water. Leave overnight then wash as usual. Cleans tanin stained teacups like a dream.
That should read Op shop workers tip.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:i can’t find my mug there. But there are some goodies.
it’s okay. I will just be happy with my tartan mugs.
I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
Po shop workers tip: Squirt of bleach, fill with water. Leave overnight then wash as usual. Cleans tanin stained teacups like a dream.
concur.
2.5 degrees here. Looks like getting to 19 later. That’s two degrees warmer than yesterdays max.
Might get something done today.
dv said:
Looks like classic FM is off the air.
Try http://radio.garden then you can listen to just about any radio station anywhere on Earth. Quite a lot of stations to choose from.
Spiny Norman said:
dv said:
Looks like classic FM is off the air.
Try http://radio.garden then you can listen to just about any radio station anywhere on Earth. Quite a lot of stations to choose from.
One of my favourites is 60 North Radio in the Shetland Islands.
KUCB, a community radio station, in Unalaska, in the Aleutian Islands off Alaska, is another.
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
dv said:
Looks like classic FM is off the air.
Try http://radio.garden then you can listen to just about any radio station anywhere on Earth. Quite a lot of stations to choose from.
One of my favourites is 60 North Radio in the Shetland Islands.
KUCB, a community radio station, in Unalaska, in the Aleutian Islands off Alaska, is another.
Why isn’t it a https site?
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:Try http://radio.garden then you can listen to just about any radio station anywhere on Earth. Quite a lot of stations to choose from.
One of my favourites is 60 North Radio in the Shetland Islands.
KUCB, a community radio station, in Unalaska, in the Aleutian Islands off Alaska, is another.
Why isn’t it a https site?
You’d have to ask them about that.
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
dv said:
Looks like classic FM is off the air.
Try http://radio.garden then you can listen to just about any radio station anywhere on Earth. Quite a lot of stations to choose from.
One of my favourites is 60 North Radio in the Shetland Islands.
KUCB, a community radio station, in Unalaska, in the Aleutian Islands off Alaska, is another.
Cool. I’m listening to a station in Waiuku, New Zealand. Very few adverts, which is a very good thing.
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:Try http://radio.garden then you can listen to just about any radio station anywhere on Earth. Quite a lot of stations to choose from.
One of my favourites is 60 North Radio in the Shetland Islands.
KUCB, a community radio station, in Unalaska, in the Aleutian Islands off Alaska, is another.
Cool. I’m listening to a station in Waiuku, New Zealand. Very few adverts, which is a very good thing.
60 North has no ads, other than station identification and brief station promos. (How they pay their expenses, i don’t know).
KUCB has a minimal number of ads.
Morning moaners, heading for 14 here and breezy.
Dreamt I was a young AFL player, of all things. Brought on as a substitute even though I had no experience.
I was bouncing and catching alright, but my kicking was embarrassingly bad, feeble and erratic. But after the match the woman in charge said I was pretty good, and sent for me training with a friendly coach.
But instead of a football field we trained in a big disused railway station, running on concrete and kicking balls up and down stairs. Anyway I soon became an excellent player with a very powerful and accurate drop-kick.
Spiny Norman said:
dv said:
Looks like classic FM is off the air.
Try http://radio.garden then you can listen to just about any radio station anywhere on Earth. Quite a lot of stations to choose from.
Ta. Listening to Ancient FM in Canada, medieval and Renaissance station.
https://radio.garden/listen/ancient-fm/-KZR7rZZ
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:i can’t find my mug there. But there are some goodies.
it’s okay. I will just be happy with my tartan mugs.
I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
Po shop workers tip: Squirt of bleach, fill with water. Leave overnight then wash as usual. Cleans tanin stained teacups like a dream.
What brand of bleach? Doesn’t it stink?
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:One of my favourites is 60 North Radio in the Shetland Islands.
KUCB, a community radio station, in Unalaska, in the Aleutian Islands off Alaska, is another.
Cool. I’m listening to a station in Waiuku, New Zealand. Very few adverts, which is a very good thing.
60 North has no ads, other than station identification and brief station promos. (How they pay their expenses, i don’t know).
KUCB has a minimal number of ads.
https://60north.radio/about-the-station/
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
Po shop workers tip: Squirt of bleach, fill with water. Leave overnight then wash as usual. Cleans tanin stained teacups like a dream.
What brand of bleach? Doesn’t it stink?
I use White King plain hypochlorite bleach for this job.
It does stink whilst in the cup, but after rinsing out and washing up with hot water and detergent, it no longer stinks.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:Po shop workers tip: Squirt of bleach, fill with water. Leave overnight then wash as usual. Cleans tanin stained teacups like a dream.
What brand of bleach? Doesn’t it stink?
I use White King plain hypochlorite bleach for this job.
It does stink whilst in the cup, but after rinsing out and washing up with hot water and detergent, it no longer stinks.
Ta.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:What brand of bleach? Doesn’t it stink?
I use White King plain hypochlorite bleach for this job.
It does stink whilst in the cup, but after rinsing out and washing up with hot water and detergent, it no longer stinks.
Ta.
I use it at about 50:50 bleach:water ratio, and it removes the tannin stains in about 10-15 minutes.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:I use White King plain hypochlorite bleach for this job.
It does stink whilst in the cup, but after rinsing out and washing up with hot water and detergent, it no longer stinks.
Ta.
I use it at about 50:50 bleach:water ratio, and it removes the tannin stains in about 10-15 minutes.
When I say White King plain bleach, I mean White King without added lemon or eucalyptus smells. These added smells are volatile oils that will leave a residual stink. The hypochlorite stink is water soluble, and so washes away with water. If any stink remains, wash or rinse again in copious amounts of hot water.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Ta.
I use it at about 50:50 bleach:water ratio, and it removes the tannin stains in about 10-15 minutes.
When I say White King plain bleach, I mean White King without added lemon or eucalyptus smells. These added smells are volatile oils that will leave a residual stink. The hypochlorite stink is water soluble, and so washes away with water. If any stink remains, wash or rinse again in copious amounts of hot water.
Copy that, Houston.
Have to visit the chemist for medication repeats today.
I fancy saveloys with spicy beans so I’ll get some savs while I’m out there. But not from the chemist.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:I use it at about 50:50 bleach:water ratio, and it removes the tannin stains in about 10-15 minutes.
When I say White King plain bleach, I mean White King without added lemon or eucalyptus smells. These added smells are volatile oils that will leave a residual stink. The hypochlorite stink is water soluble, and so washes away with water. If any stink remains, wash or rinse again in copious amounts of hot water.
Copy that, Houston.
I’ll put some on my next Coles order.

A good article on dementia (and healthy living)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-17/dementia-risk-depression-alzheimers-lancet-14-ways-to-cut-risk/104350330
Bubblecar said:
Have to visit the chemist for medication repeats today.I fancy saveloys with spicy beans so I’ll get some savs while I’m out there. But not from the chemist.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Have to visit the chemist for medication repeats today.I fancy saveloys with spicy beans so I’ll get some savs while I’m out there. But not from the chemist.
I don’t think chemists sell saveloys.
Spicy beans?
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Have to visit the chemist for medication repeats today.I fancy saveloys with spicy beans so I’ll get some savs while I’m out there. But not from the chemist.
I don’t think chemists sell saveloys.Spicy beans?
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:When I say White King plain bleach, I mean White King without added lemon or eucalyptus smells. These added smells are volatile oils that will leave a residual stink. The hypochlorite stink is water soluble, and so washes away with water. If any stink remains, wash or rinse again in copious amounts of hot water.
Copy that, Houston.
I’ll put some on my next Coles order.
Nods. Yes, that’s the stuff.
Morning pilgrims, I don’t know what’s in store today, I’ll play it as I see it.
Over.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, I don’t know what’s in store today, I’ll play it as I see it.
Over.
The ABC has now admitted that it doctored a video in a report accusing an Australian of war crimes.
Fortunately he has now won a court case them against them.
SHAME SHAME SHAME
Channel Two Wrongs Make Right Happy
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:i can’t find my mug there. But there are some goodies.
it’s okay. I will just be happy with my tartan mugs.
I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
Po shop workers tip: Squirt of bleach, fill with water. Leave overnight then wash as usual. Cleans tanin stained teacups like a dream.
ta.
Hello
Cymek said:
Hello
Greetings.
Cymek said:
Hello
G’day
Cymek said:
Hello
Nanu nanu.
Out of the shower. I normally use a roll-on deodorant but this time I used a Rexona spray and was nearly asphyxiated.
Bubblecar said:
Out of the shower. I normally use a roll-on deodorant but this time I used a Rexona spray and was nearly asphyxiated.
we heard that lighting a match or firing a spark at the same time really clears the air
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
Out of the shower. I normally use a roll-on deodorant but this time I used a Rexona spray and was nearly asphyxiated.
we heard that lighting a match or firing a spark at the same time really clears the air
Next to the spray stream
Bubblecar said:
Out of the shower. I normally use a roll-on deodorant but this time I used a Rexona spray and was nearly asphyxiated.
not to mention all those nanoparticles, get inside ya brian cause alzheimer’s, all sorts of troubles
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:Bubblecar said:
Out of the shower. I normally use a roll-on deodorant but this time I used a Rexona spray and was nearly asphyxiated.
we heard that lighting a match or firing a spark at the same time really clears the air
Next to the spray stream
some years back, me and Spalding Jr. were making bottle rockets i.e. launching 2-litre plastic bottles like rockets.
The bottles would be charged with an appropriate fuel/air mix, and upended over an electric igniter we’d made.
Among a selection of mixes, hairspray from the $2 shop was inexpensive, and made for excellent rocket fuel.
I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
—
Steradent kills it.. no stink
Ian said:
I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.—
Steradent kills it.. no stink
Or a good scrub with bicarb soda. Gets the tannin stain out of Mrs S’s tea mug.
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:we heard that lighting a match or firing a spark at the same time really clears the air
Next to the spray stream
some years back, me and Spalding Jr. were making bottle rockets i.e. launching 2-litre plastic bottles like rockets.
The bottles would be charged with an appropriate fuel/air mix, and upended over an electric igniter we’d made.
Among a selection of mixes, hairspray from the $2 shop was inexpensive, and made for excellent rocket fuel.
I think that’s what Elon uses.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:Next to the spray stream
some years back, me and Spalding Jr. were making bottle rockets i.e. launching 2-litre plastic bottles like rockets.
The bottles would be charged with an appropriate fuel/air mix, and upended over an electric igniter we’d made.
Among a selection of mixes, hairspray from the $2 shop was inexpensive, and made for excellent rocket fuel.
I think that’s what Elon uses.
I wonder if he’s thought of a metho/air mix, or kerosene/air, both of which we found effective.
And if he has, can i sue him for stealing the idea?
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:some years back, me and Spalding Jr. were making bottle rockets i.e. launching 2-litre plastic bottles like rockets.
The bottles would be charged with an appropriate fuel/air mix, and upended over an electric igniter we’d made.
Among a selection of mixes, hairspray from the $2 shop was inexpensive, and made for excellent rocket fuel.
I think that’s what Elon uses.
I wonder if he’s thought of a metho/air mix, or kerosene/air, both of which we found effective.
And if he has, can i sue him for stealing the idea?
kero and oxygen has been used for ages as rocket fuel.
Peak Warming Man said:
The ABC has now admitted that it doctored a video in a report accusing an Australian of war crimes.
Fortunately he has now won a court case them against them.
SHAME SHAME SHAME
makes a nice distraction from the bullshit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Afghanistan
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:I think that’s what Elon uses.
I wonder if he’s thought of a metho/air mix, or kerosene/air, both of which we found effective.
And if he has, can i sue him for stealing the idea?
kero and oxygen has been used for ages as rocket fuel.
I’ll just nail him on the hairspray mix, then.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve been using a Sherlock Holmes mug for years but it’s getting hard to clean.
Po shop workers tip: Squirt of bleach, fill with water. Leave overnight then wash as usual. Cleans tanin stained teacups like a dream.
What brand of bleach? Doesn’t it stink?
Any bleach, it’s the bleach you are after. We have Domestos in this house. Yes, it smells of bleach. Put the cup out in the laundry trough if you don’t want the smell in the kitchen. Bleach smell does not worry me.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:Po shop workers tip: Squirt of bleach, fill with water. Leave overnight then wash as usual. Cleans tanin stained teacups like a dream.
What brand of bleach? Doesn’t it stink?
Any bleach, it’s the bleach you are after. We have Domestos in this house. Yes, it smells of bleach. Put the cup out in the laundry trough if you don’t want the smell in the kitchen. Bleach smell does not worry me.
I wash the tiled floors with a bleach solution. Smells ‘clean’ afterwards.
same as swimming pool smell
BACK and unfortunately I did cop some of our 20% chance of showers, so I’m a little damp.
“Adelaide records coldest minimum temperature in 100 years”
Transition will out there furiously chopping stumps.
Lunch was a generous piece of fresh french bread with pastrami, tomato, cucumber, onion and cheese on it.
It was delish.
Over.
Peak Warming Man said:
Lunch was a generous piece of fresh french bread with pastrami, tomato, cucumber, onion and cheese on it.
It was delish.
Over.
So delish I’ll have another.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Lunch was a generous piece of fresh french bread with pastrami, tomato, cucumber, onion and cheese on it.
It was delish.
Over.
So delish I’ll have another.
I did something very similar.
and had another as well.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Lunch was a generous piece of fresh french bread with pastrami, tomato, cucumber, onion and cheese on it.
It was delish.
Over.
So delish I’ll have another.
My lunch was tasty but yours sounds tasty too.
Peak Warming Man said:
“Adelaide records coldest minimum temperature in 100 years”Transition will out there furiously chopping stumps.
reading..
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/adelaide-records-coldest-minimum-temperature-in-100-years/ar-AA1qG56f
won’t be long be cleaning evaporate airconditioners out
transition said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Adelaide records coldest minimum temperature in 100 years”Transition will out there furiously chopping stumps.
reading..
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/adelaide-records-coldest-minimum-temperature-in-100-years/ar-AA1qG56fwon’t be long be cleaning evaporate airconditioners out
Maximums all above 20˚ for the next fortnight. 28 expected to be the top. Lowest is expected to be 4˚.
Tasmania’s first State of the Environment report in 15 years has warned of escalating environmental challenges that require action to ensure the protection of the state’s “extraordinary” natural assets.
LOL talk about NFT well how about
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-17/sa-number-plate-sold-record-breaking-auction/104360078
SCIENCE said:
LOL talk about NFT well how about
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-17/sa-number-plate-sold-record-breaking-auction/104360078

roughbarked said:
Tasmania’s first State of the Environment report in 15 years has warned of escalating environmental challenges that require action to ensure the protection of the state’s “extraordinary” natural assets.
Native vegetation, including native forest and woodlands, decreasing 3.99 per cent since 2009
——-
>forestry comm.
Google says:
No results found for “Steady State Steakhouse”.
Surprising, I thought it would be an obvious rival for the Big Bang Burger Bar.

i don’t think the Knight of the Relm is going to rush into to anything.
It will probably be decided with the chaps over a good port and a fine cuban at his club.
Bubblecar said:
Google says:No results found for “Steady State Steakhouse”.
Surprising, I thought it would be an obvious rival for the Big Bang Burger Bar.
Yes you would have thought.
Alex is AWOL today.
Peak Warming Man said:
Alex is AWOL today.
I think she’s entertaining her mother.
Peak Warming Man said:
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i don’t think the Knight of the Relm is going to rush into to anything.
It will probably be decided with the chaps over a good port and a fine cuban at his club.
And I think his finger has been digitally enlarged.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
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i don’t think the Knight of the Relm is going to rush into to anything.
It will probably be decided with the chaps over a good port and a fine cuban at his club.
And I think his finger has been digitally enlarged.
Damn immigrants wanting rights and places to live.
Cymek said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
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i don’t think the Knight of the Relm is going to rush into to anything.
It will probably be decided with the chaps over a good port and a fine cuban at his club.
And I think his finger has been digitally enlarged.
Damn immigrants wanting rights and places to live.
what’s wrong with Albania for a place to live?
They have all those little pillboxes, vacant, just going begging.
Thursday 19 September
Showers about the west and north, extending throughout during the day, although little reaching the east coast. Snow falling to 400 metres about the west and south in the evening. Fresh and gusty west to northwesterly winds.
Friday 20 September
Showers about the west, far south and Bass Strait Islands, extending statewide in the afternoon, although less likely about the east. Snow falling to 600 metres in the morning. Fresh and gusty west to northwesterly winds.
sarahs mum said:
Thursday 19 September
Showers about the west and north, extending throughout during the day, although little reaching the east coast. Snow falling to 400 metres about the west and south in the evening. Fresh and gusty west to northwesterly winds.Friday 20 September
Showers about the west, far south and Bass Strait Islands, extending statewide in the afternoon, although less likely about the east. Snow falling to 600 metres in the morning. Fresh and gusty west to northwesterly winds.
Yes it’s been a chilly month and more to come. My hydro is no longer in credit, I’ll have to pump some more funds therein.
Not hungry enough yet to put a dinner together so I’ll have a post-dinner lay-me-down before cooking gets underway.
hypernym
PRONUNCIATION:
(HY-puhr-nim)
MEANING:
noun: A broad term that encompasses specific words within a category. For example, color is a hypernym of red, blue, green, etc.
ETYMOLOGY:
From Greek hyper- (over, above) + -onym (name). Earliest documented use: 1971. The counterpart is hyponym.
Has anyone here read Ukraine’s Unwinnable War by R W Routh?
Peak Warming Man said:
Has anyone here read Ukraine’s Unwinnable War by R W Routh?
Somebody might have, but not me.
I tend to think the war and the causes of it in reverse to what the title suggests. I am not sure this Ukraine’s war. It is Putin’s War.

Peak Warming Man said:
Might be getting sick of fish and seabirds. They’re craving cattle.
Peak Warming Man said:
Has anyone here read Ukraine’s Unwinnable War by R W Routh?
At least one here hasn’t.
Just watching Back Roads on the ABC, about the Heyson Trail in SA. That’s going on my to-do list. Looks good.
These Creatures Occupy ‘Third State’ Beyond Life And Death, Scientists Say
Nature
16 September 2024
By Peter A Noble & Alex Pozhitkov, The Conversation
Biobots could one day be engineered to deliver drugs and clear up arterial plaque. (Kriegman et al. 2020/PNAS, CC BY-SA)
Life and death are traditionally viewed as opposites. But the emergence of new multicellular life-forms from the cells of a dead organism introduces a “third state” that lies beyond the traditional boundaries of life and death.
Usually, scientists consider death to be the irreversible halt of functioning of an organism as a whole. However, practices such as organ donation highlight how organs, tissues and cells can continue to function even after an organism’s demise.
This resilience raises the question: What mechanisms allow certain cells to keep working after an organism has died?
We are researchers who investigate what happens within organisms after they die. In our recently published review, we describe how certain cells – when provided with nutrients, oxygen, bioelectricity or biochemical cues – have the capacity to transform into multicellular organisms with new functions after death.
Read more:
https://www.sciencealert.com/these-creatures-occupy-third-state-beyond-life-and-death-scientists-say?
JudgeMental said:
hypernymPRONUNCIATION:
(HY-puhr-nim)MEANING:
noun: A broad term that encompasses specific words within a category. For example, color is a hypernym of red, blue, green, etc.ETYMOLOGY:
From Greek hyper- (over, above) + -onym (name). Earliest documented use: 1971. The counterpart is hyponym.
reading..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypernymy_and_hyponymy
Big day out so far.
Got the truck bogged so bad that the 28 ton loader that towed me out bent my drawbar pin in the bullbar pulling it out, now I have to cut the pin out with a gas-axe and buy a new one. :/ I was so happy that I had got right through winter without getting bogged.
Just got home from a fire training meeting, planning for the pre-season refresher coming up soon.
I have about 25 earthworks quotes to do, and tomorrow I’m doing a pre-season water bomber refresher course, where we get to direct water bombers. We have two helitaks and two fixed wings(SEATs) to play with. I’ll try to get some pics.
I probably should eat something…
Kingy said:
Big day out so far.Got the truck bogged so bad that the 28 ton loader that towed me out bent my drawbar pin in the bullbar pulling it out, now I have to cut the pin out with a gas-axe and buy a new one. :/ I was so happy that I had got right through winter without getting bogged.
Just got home from a fire training meeting, planning for the pre-season refresher coming up soon.
I have about 25 earthworks quotes to do, and tomorrow I’m doing a pre-season water bomber refresher course, where we get to direct water bombers. We have two helitaks and two fixed wings(SEATs) to play with. I’ll try to get some pics.
I probably should eat something…
About time you hired some staff.
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
Big day out so far.Got the truck bogged so bad that the 28 ton loader that towed me out bent my drawbar pin in the bullbar pulling it out, now I have to cut the pin out with a gas-axe and buy a new one. :/ I was so happy that I had got right through winter without getting bogged.
Just got home from a fire training meeting, planning for the pre-season refresher coming up soon.
I have about 25 earthworks quotes to do, and tomorrow I’m doing a pre-season water bomber refresher course, where we get to direct water bombers. We have two helitaks and two fixed wings(SEATs) to play with. I’ll try to get some pics.
I probably should eat something…
About time you hired some staff.
I’m hoping to get my other truck back next week, then I’ll be able to find someone to drive it.
I have noticed that most of the crap that is uploaded to youtube these days is just AI garbage.
One would hope that youtube realises this soon, and does something about it.
Kingy said:
I have noticed that most of the crap that is uploaded to youtube these days is just AI garbage.
One would hope that youtube realises this soon, and does something about it.
^
first blackbirds are singysongy chat
transition said:
first blackbirds are singysongy chat
wattle bird now
transition said:
first blackbirds are singysongy chat
There are still a few bush birds left to to and drown out the black invaders
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees at the back door, lightly overcast. We are forecast 18 degrees with late showers and windy.
Supermarketing this morning.
Good morning. 4˚ at present to 24˚ later.
I’m of to Wagga to see my eye surgeon. Hope the news is better than what I’ve had so far. The appointment isn’t until 3:15 At least the days are getting longer but much of the journey home will be in kangaroo time and I won’t be allowed to drive.
Good morning everybody.
17.0° C,66% RH, a few clouds and a light air. BoM recommends that I dress for a top of 24° C and not worry too much about a raincoat. I have an umbrella, but I don’t own a raincoat.
Agenda: To the Sunshine Coast University Hospital for two urology appointments. Also picking up new spectacles in Nescafe City (Gympie) as we go through. Coming back, we might go to Bunnings to get more 240V LED bulbs, if they are open. Hang about. I’ve now just checked the electric internet, and they are open until 9 pm, so I guess we will be going to Bunnings.
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.17.0° C,66% RH, a few clouds and a light air. BoM recommends that I dress for a top of 24° C and not worry too much about a raincoat. I have an umbrella, but I don’t own a raincoat.
Agenda: To the Sunshine Coast University Hospital for two urology appointments. Also picking up new spectacles in Nescafe City (Gympie) as we go through. Coming back, we might go to Bunnings to get more 240V LED bulbs, if they are open. Hang about. I’ve now just checked the electric internet, and they are open until 9 pm, so I guess we will be going to Bunnings.
Distance to the hospital appointments is about 160 km each way. It’s probably a Good Thing the the Mazda is very fuel efficient (~50 mpg). So we should use around 18 litres of petrol.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.17.0° C,66% RH, a few clouds and a light air. BoM recommends that I dress for a top of 24° C and not worry too much about a raincoat. I have an umbrella, but I don’t own a raincoat.
Agenda: To the Sunshine Coast University Hospital for two urology appointments. Also picking up new spectacles in Nescafe City (Gympie) as we go through. Coming back, we might go to Bunnings to get more 240V LED bulbs, if they are open. Hang about. I’ve now just checked the electric internet, and they are open until 9 pm, so I guess we will be going to Bunnings.
Distance to the hospital appointments is about 160 km each way. It’s probably a Good Thing the the Mazda is very fuel efficient (~50 mpg). So we should use around 18 litres of petrol.
Yeah. I have 200km each way. Luckily we’ll be doing it in a Toyota Corolla rather than the aging Triton.
Interestingly, the frost burned potato leaves but not the tomato plants nor 90% of the self sown watermelons that came up in partly decomposed compost.

The ABC didn’t say where this was taken.
Morning punters and correctors, what news?
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, what news?
cornflakes what I has, in cold milk, made it my self, kitchen staff not up yet
Hello
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/health/researchers-find-microplastic-in-the-human-brain-for-the-first-time—c-16089717
Microplastics
I wonder if they could be another event to overcome in relation to the great filter.
Life cycles and development is damaged and overtime causes a dumbing down of intelligent life and possible extinction
Facebook shows me weird groups sometimes
One was for some US patriotism group.
All about guns and rights and all that bullshit they trot out to justifying acting like arseholes.
I basically called them brain washed fascists who are willing soldiers to kill anyone not a white American Christian.
“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.”
He could write a good tale make no mistake.
Cymek said:
Facebook shows me weird groups sometimes
One was for some US patriotism group.
All about guns and rights and all that bullshit they trot out to justifying acting like arseholes.
I basically called them brain washed fascists who are willing soldiers to kill anyone not a white American Christian.
did they shoot you
Cymek said:
Microplastics
I wonder if they could be another event to overcome in relation to the great filter.
Life cycles and development is damaged and overtime causes a dumbing down of intelligent life and possible extinction
well lead didn’t work did it
They’ve locked up P Diddy.
Peak Warming Man said:
They’ve locked up P Diddy.
What Diddy do?
esselte said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They’ve locked up P Diddy.
What Diddy do?
P
esselte said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They’ve locked up P Diddy.
What Diddy do?
he came out in support of trump.
JudgeMental said:
esselte said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They’ve locked up P Diddy.
What Diddy do?
he came out in support of trump.
Where was he when they arrested him? Was he walkin’ down the street?
Scotland, the brave decision to run the Commonwealth Games.
Peak Warming Man said:
Scotland, the brave decision to run the Commonwealth Games.
and haggis tossing will make its debut.
Peak Warming Man said:
Scotland, the brave decision to run the Commonwealth Games.
ISWYDT
Mother’s procedure went well. She has now left me alone in my dungeon. She bought me some tasty food so I’ll forgive her for making me get up by 0500 yesterday.
After she left I watched a migraine presentation about chronic pain and mood disorders. I had a bit of a meltdown so I think I’ll talk to my GP about getting a psychologist referral. The one I saw at the Alfred is on extended sick leave so I haven’t seen her for a while.
>>The one I saw at the Alfred is on extended sick
What did you tell them.
Peak Warming Man said:
>>The one I saw at the Alfred is on extended sickThe truth.What did you tell them.
OCDC said:
Peak Warming Man said:>>The one I saw at the Alfred is on extended sickThe truth.What did you tell them.
obviously they can’t handle the truth.
Just been out playing with helitaks. The SEATs weren’t ready for use today so the only fixed wing was Air Attack 3.
It’s kinda surreal controlling full size choppers from the ground, telling them where to drop and what the dangers are. There was a row of tall eucalyptus trees on the south side of the drop, and at one point there was a large Wedgetail lazily circling in the drop zone.
Anyway, I’m requalified as water bomber controller ready for summer.






Do car sat nav automatically update the map?
Peak Warming Man said:
Do car sat nav automatically update the map?I wish! But no, I have to buy the Melway myself.
Peak Warming Man said:
Do car sat nav automatically update the map?
i guess it depends if it has an internet connection.
Peak Warming Man said:
Do car sat nav automatically update the map?
Don’t drive over that rickety bridge!
Peak Warming Man said:
Do car sat nav automatically update the map?
Only if you pay the dealership when they service the car
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Do car sat nav automatically update the map?
Don’t drive over that rickety bridge!
You aren’t thinking 4 dimensionally it may be fixed in the future or intact in the past, choose your time arrow.
Full moon tonight.
Did any of youse spy an aurora last night?
Kingy said:
Just been out playing with helitaks. The SEATs weren’t ready for use today so the only fixed wing was Air Attack 3.
It’s kinda surreal controlling full size choppers from the ground, telling them where to drop and what the dangers are. There was a row of tall eucalyptus trees on the south side of the drop, and at one point there was a large Wedgetail lazily circling in the drop zone. Anyway, I’m requalified as water bomber controller ready for summer.
That’ll be fun, well done.
OCDC said:
Did any of youse spy an aurora last night?
I had a peep, no obvious aurora. But it was a brightly moonlit night.
Heading for 1 tonight, max of 11 tomorrow. So I suppose a hot dinner is in order.
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Do car sat nav automatically update the map?
Don’t drive over that rickety bridge!
You aren’t thinking 4 dimensionally it may be fixed in the future or intact in the past, choose your time arrow.
Don’t worry Israel would never tamper with technology to deceive or destroy you¿
Eyes have been aching all day. Ought to see an eyeologist soon.

Bubblecar said:
Eyes have been aching all day. Ought to see an eyeologist soon.I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.
And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
.
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:Eyes have been aching all day. Ought to see an eyeologist soon.I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.
And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
That’s good. Regular check-ups are sensible but I haven’t had one for a very long time.
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:Eyes have been aching all day. Ought to see an eyeologist soon.I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.
And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
That’s good. Regular check-ups are sensible but I haven’t had one for a very long time.
…not good that your eyes are getting worse, but good that you now realise it.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:I only got them checked because brane doktor suggested it. They’d been stable for 24 years, but my last check was during Lockdown the First.OCDC said:…not good that your eyes are getting worse, but good that you now realise it.I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.That’s good. Regular check-ups are sensible but I haven’t had one for a very long time.And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
Bubblecar said:
Eyes have been aching all day. Ought to see an eyeologist soon.
We have our very own eyeologist.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:How many fingers am I holding up?Eyes have been aching all day. Ought to see an eyeologist soon.We have our very own eyeologist.
🖕
Been thinking today about how much pressure there is on doctors to be positive and cheery about people’s results.
My cardiologist and GP were both underplaying all the “getting worse” news. A more realistic message might have been: You’re going to have to lose significant weight soon or you may be dead within the next few of years.
Bubblecar said:
Been thinking today about how much pressure there is on doctors to be positive and cheery about people’s results.My cardiologist and GP were both underplaying all the “getting worse” news. A more realistic message might have been: You’re going to have to lose significant weight soon or you may be dead within the next few of years.
Remove that “of”.
OCDC said:
Peak Warming Man said:Bubblecar said:How many fingers am I holding up?Eyes have been aching all day. Ought to see an eyeologist soon.We have our very own eyeologist.
🖕
Two.
Bubblecar said:
Full moon tonight.
It was very large last night and quite high over the horizon quite early.
Bubblecar said:
Been thinking today about how much pressure there is on doctors to be positive and cheery about people’s results.My cardiologist and GP were both underplaying all the “getting worse” news. A more realistic message might have been: You’re going to have to lose significant weight soon or you may be dead within the next few of years.
I’d have no problem with honesty from a doctor.
Prefer it really, doctor should be straight forward and then some of that burden is shifted to the patient.
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:Eyes have been aching all day. Ought to see an eyeologist soon.I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.
And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
I picked up my new spectacles today.
And I am now back from the Sunshine Coast after seeing the urologist.
Bubblecar said:
Full moon tonight.
There should be hanky panky in the village common tonight.
rubs hands
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:Eyes have been aching all day. Ought to see an eyeologist soon.I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.
And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
I picked up my new spectacles today.
And I am now back from the Sunshine Coast after seeing the urologist.
You see a urologist for your glasses!!!
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Full moon tonight.
There should be hanky panky in the village common tonight.
rubs hands
Very cold night expected, so perhaps not.
kryten said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
I picked up my new spectacles today.
And I am now back from the Sunshine Coast after seeing the urologist.
You see a urologist for your glasses!!!
No.
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:Eyes have been aching all day. Ought to see an eyeologist soon.I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.
And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
I picked up my new spectacles today.
And I am now back from the Sunshine Coast after seeing the urologist.
How did the urologist check-up go?
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:Eyes have been aching all day. Ought to see an eyeologist soon.I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.
And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
I picked up my new spectacles today.
And I am now back from the Sunshine Coast after seeing the urologist.
your vision must be really shit
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:Eyes have been aching all day. Ought to see an eyeologist soon.I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.
And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
I picked up my new spectacles today.
And I am now back from the Sunshine Coast after seeing the urologist.
And I am back in the asylum after seeing the ufologist
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
I picked up my new spectacles today.
And I am now back from the Sunshine Coast after seeing the urologist.
your vision must be really shit
I’d go for piss poor
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
I picked up my new spectacles today.
And I am now back from the Sunshine Coast after seeing the urologist.
How did the urologist check-up go?
I have another lot of tablets to take (after I get them dispensed). I have to have another PSA test. I have get an MRI on the prostate, to see whether there is anything suspicious in there. I’ve waited more than two years for this appointment, so the PSA test is too old. They think the enlarged prostate is crushing my urethra somewhat, and is blocking some of the flow from the bladder.
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
I picked up my new spectacles today.
And I am now back from the Sunshine Coast after seeing the urologist.
your vision must be really shit
He fixed that with a finger in the brown eye.
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
I picked up my new spectacles today.
And I am now back from the Sunshine Coast after seeing the urologist.
And I am back in the asylum after seeing the ufologist
Dear oh dear.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:I picked up my new spectacles today.
And I am now back from the Sunshine Coast after seeing the urologist.
How did the urologist check-up go?
I have another lot of tablets to take (after I get them dispensed). I have to have another PSA test. I have get an MRI on the prostate, to see whether there is anything suspicious in there. I’ve waited more than two years for this appointment, so the PSA test is too old. They think the enlarged prostate is crushing my urethra somewhat, and is blocking some of the flow from the bladder.
Damn.
kryten said:
Michael V said:
OCDC said:
I get new lenses in my spectacles tomorrow.And I realised today that there were signs my eyes had been getting worse that I didn’t pick up on
I picked up my new spectacles today.
And I am now back from the Sunshine Coast after seeing the urologist.
You see a urologist for your glasses!!!
He could see the urologist after he got the spectacles.
ACT RSPCA appeals for information after cats discovered with bound testicles in act of animal cruelty
Wasn’t that where people were desexing and releasing cats?roughbarked said:
ACT RSPCA appeals for information after cats discovered with bound testicles in act of animal cruelty Wasn’t that where people were desexing and releasing cats?
I’d hate to try put an elastic band around the balls of an awake cat. Hard enough giving them a tablet.
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
ACT RSPCA appeals for information after cats discovered with bound testicles in act of animal cruelty Wasn’t that where people were desexing and releasing cats?I’d hate to try put an elastic band around the balls of an awake cat. Hard enough giving them a tablet.
There was an article about some so called organisation in the ACT that was going to desex and then release cats.
I remember we discussed it here a year or so ago.
roughbarked said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
ACT RSPCA appeals for information after cats discovered with bound testicles in act of animal cruelty Wasn’t that where people were desexing and releasing cats?I’d hate to try put an elastic band around the balls of an awake cat. Hard enough giving them a tablet.
There was an article about some so called organisation in the ACT that was going to desex and then release cats.
I remember we discussed it here a year or so ago.
THR, trap neuter release. Quite a few orgs do this.
JudgeMental said:
roughbarked said:
Witty Rejoinder said:I’d hate to try put an elastic band around the balls of an awake cat. Hard enough giving them a tablet.
There was an article about some so called organisation in the ACT that was going to desex and then release cats.
I remember we discussed it here a year or so ago.
THR, trap neuter release. Quite a few orgs do this.
Sounds like it.
However desexed or not the cats if feral or not, still eat lots of birds and lizards.
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
roughbarked said:There was an article about some so called organisation in the ACT that was going to desex and then release cats.
I remember we discussed it here a year or so ago.
THR, trap neuter release. Quite a few orgs do this.
Sounds like it.
However desexed or not the cats if feral or not, still eat lots of birds and lizards.
it is controversial and studies indicate that it is not a good way to reduce feral cat populations.
4 Cities in RUINS After POLAND’s Flood of the Century
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwuImyLO8Sc
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
roughbarked said:There was an article about some so called organisation in the ACT that was going to desex and then release cats.
I remember we discussed it here a year or so ago.
THR, trap neuter release. Quite a few orgs do this.
Sounds like it.
However desexed or not the cats if feral or not, still eat lots of birds and lizards.
yeah but causing murder directly is less palatable than causing giant murder indirectly
JudgeMental said:
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:THR, trap neuter release. Quite a few orgs do this.
Sounds like it.
However desexed or not the cats if feral or not, still eat lots of birds and lizards.
it is controversial and studies indicate that it is not a good way to reduce feral cat populations.
Sounds about right.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:THR, trap neuter release. Quite a few orgs do this.
Sounds like it.
However desexed or not the cats if feral or not, still eat lots of birds and lizards.
yeah but causing murder directly is less palatable than causing giant murder indirectly
A bit like the trolley story?
Peak Warming Man said:
They’ve locked up P Diddy.
Bound to happen eventually
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They’ve locked up P Diddy.
Bound to happen eventually
Who?
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They’ve locked up P Diddy.
Bound to happen eventually
Who?
Stage name: P Diddy.
Real Name: Sean John Combs
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:Bound to happen eventually
Who?
Stage name: P Diddy.
Real Name: Sean John Combs
Apparently a rapper. That’s why I know bugger all about him.
Coach made by Snutsel Fréres of Brussels.
Chassis and motor by Benz. 200hp.
roughbarked said:
Coach made by Snutsel Fréres of Brussels.
Chassis and motor by Benz. 200hp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanethiol
“……
Odor
Ethanethiol has a strongly disagreeable odor that humans can detect in minute concentrations. The threshold for human detection is as low as one part in 2.8 billion parts of air (0.36 parts per billion). Its odor resembles that of leeks, onions, durian or cooked cabbage.
Employees of the Union Oil Company of California reported first in 1938 that turkey vultures would gather at the site of any gas leak. After finding that this was caused by traces of ethanethiol in the gas it was decided to boost the amount of ethanethiol in the gas, to make detection of leaks easier.
Uses
Ethanethiol is intentionally added to butane and propane (see: LPG) to impart an easily noticed smell to these normally odorless fuels that pose the threat of fire, explosion, and asphyxiation.
In the underground mining industry, ethanethiol or ethyl mercaptan is referred to as “stench gas”. The gas is released into mine ventilation systems during an emergency to alert mine workers. In Ontario, mining legislation dictates that “The alarm system in an underground mine shall, consist of the introduction into all workplaces of sufficient quantities of ethyl mercaptan gas or similar gas to be readily detectable by all workers”……”
in other news
i’m back from the yonder, reads all the meters, totals and flows, pressures too, sheeps drinks some today was warm and feed starting to dry out more
snacks I eats, cup tea I drinks
need go out wood heap shortly, finds some logs, what I do, got cold days too from here on for quite a few as many as there will be
sometimes when we art we get to the end and think.. I should have really done that differently / better… but then I look at it an think, nah be true to the work and run with what is there.. (also to change it would be difficult – though not impossible)
so I’m in a quandary – do I keep the thing that is there and just run with the imperfection as a testament to how much I’ve improved.. or do I fix the earlier work despite the challenges…
Arts said:
sometimes when we art we get to the end and think.. I should have really done that differently / better… but then I look at it an think, nah be true to the work and run with what is there.. (also to change it would be difficult – though not impossible)so I’m in a quandary – do I keep the thing that is there and just run with the imperfection as a testament to how much I’ve improved.. or do I fix the earlier work despite the challenges…
keep.
and make a new one differently.
Arts said:
sometimes when we art we get to the end and think.. I should have really done that differently / better… but then I look at it an think, nah be true to the work and run with what is there.. (also to change it would be difficult – though not impossible)so I’m in a quandary – do I keep the thing that is there and just run with the imperfection as a testament to how much I’ve improved.. or do I fix the earlier work despite the challenges…
2nd (and later) Editions are commonplace.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Full moon tonight.
There should be hanky panky in the village common tonight.
rubs hands
while watching a TERN over the dam, sees a big scary moon comes up over the howizon, wuns home tells mummy

“. or do I fix the earlier work despite the challenges”
Sounds very George Lucas and his eternal meddling with his older Star Wars fillums
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
sometimes when we art we get to the end and think.. I should have really done that differently / better… but then I look at it an think, nah be true to the work and run with what is there.. (also to change it would be difficult – though not impossible)so I’m in a quandary – do I keep the thing that is there and just run with the imperfection as a testament to how much I’ve improved.. or do I fix the earlier work despite the challenges…
keep.
and make a new one differently.
can’t really make a new one.. just different version will be better… I have more skill and better tools now…
Neophyte said:
“. or do I fix the earlier work despite the challenges”Sounds very George Lucas and his eternal meddling with his older Star Wars fillums
so you are saying I should do some even more subpar prequels to make the original version seem better
On Tuesday, after more than 70 years of business, Tupperware filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy succumbing to mounting losses amid poor demand for its once-iconic food storage containers.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Sounds like it.
However desexed or not the cats if feral or not, still eat lots of birds and lizards.
yeah but causing murder directly is less palatable than causing giant murder indirectly
A bit like the trolley story?
we love us a good trolley problem ususususususususususus
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
sometimes when we art we get to the end and think.. I should have really done that differently / better… but then I look at it an think, nah be true to the work and run with what is there.. (also to change it would be difficult – though not impossible)so I’m in a quandary – do I keep the thing that is there and just run with the imperfection as a testament to how much I’ve improved.. or do I fix the earlier work despite the challenges…
keep.
and make a new one differently.
can’t really make a new one.. just different version will be better… I have more skill and better tools now…
go the new and improved version.
diddly-squat said:
On Tuesday, after more than 70 years of business, Tupperware filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy succumbing to mounting losses amid poor demand for its once-iconic food storage containers.
globalisation has ruined multibillion dollar businesses.
why the fuck would we pay $18 for a lunch box when you can get one that works just as well for $6 at Coles.

Arts said:
diddly-squat said:
On Tuesday, after more than 70 years of business, Tupperware filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy succumbing to mounting losses amid poor demand for its once-iconic food storage containers.globalisation has ruined multibillion dollar businesses.
why the fuck would we pay $18 for a lunch box when you can get one that works just as well for $6 at Coles.
Just like all the nutters with Dyson brand vacuum cleaners?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:
On Tuesday, after more than 70 years of business, Tupperware filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy succumbing to mounting losses amid poor demand for its once-iconic food storage containers.globalisation has ruined multibillion dollar businesses.
why the fuck would we pay $18 for a lunch box when you can get one that works just as well for $6 at Coles.
Just like all the nutters with Dyson brand vacuum cleaners?
the last time I looked a lunch box doesn’t have an engine in it that may actually affect the performance of the sucakbility factor… I’m not sure what lunchboxes you have..
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:globalisation has ruined multibillion dollar businesses.
why the fuck would we pay $18 for a lunch box when you can get one that works just as well for $6 at Coles.
Just like all the nutters with Dyson brand vacuum cleaners?
the last time I looked a lunch box doesn’t have an engine in it that may actually affect the performance of the sucakbility factor… I’m not sure what lunchboxes you have..
There is no mechanical difference between an $800 Dyson and a $50 Anko cheapie.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Just like all the nutters with Dyson brand vacuum cleaners?
the last time I looked a lunch box doesn’t have an engine in it that may actually affect the performance of the sucakbility factor… I’m not sure what lunchboxes you have..
There is no mechanical difference between an $800 Dyson and a $50 Anko cheapie.
if that is the case then yes… let’s put Dyson out of business too…
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:
On Tuesday, after more than 70 years of business, Tupperware filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy succumbing to mounting losses amid poor demand for its once-iconic food storage containers.globalisation has ruined multibillion dollar businesses.
why the fuck would we pay $18 for a lunch box when you can get one that works just as well for $6 at Coles.
It’s not just that I think… there are places for premium priced products in the market…. Tupperware it seems just relied too heavily on an out moded form of marketing and sales. They are the Blockbuster video of plastic storage companies.
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:the last time I looked a lunch box doesn’t have an engine in it that may actually affect the performance of the sucakbility factor… I’m not sure what lunchboxes you have..
There is no mechanical difference between an $800 Dyson and a $50 Anko cheapie.
if that is the case then yes… let’s put Dyson out of business too…
I’ve got a few Tuppeware things, but I’ve never actually been to a Tuppeware party. In my experience they do last better than most other plastic containers, and I have tried out the lifetime guarantee (not sure if they still have that) and claimed a replacement lid many years after buying the original container. I got a new lid without any problems.
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:
On Tuesday, after more than 70 years of business, Tupperware filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy succumbing to mounting losses amid poor demand for its once-iconic food storage containers.globalisation has ruined multibillion dollar businesses.
why the fuck would we pay $18 for a lunch box when you can get one that works just as well for $6 at Coles.
It’s not just that I think… there are places for premium priced products in the market….
spoken like a shareholder… get him WR….
buffy said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:There is no mechanical difference between an $800 Dyson and a $50 Anko cheapie.
if that is the case then yes… let’s put Dyson out of business too…
I’ve got a few Tuppeware things, but I’ve never actually been to a Tupperware party. In my experience they do last better than most other plastic containers, and I have tried out the lifetime guarantee (not sure if they still have that) and claimed a replacement lid many years after buying the original container. I got a new lid without any problems.
And the absolute best bowl scrapers for cooking were my Tupperware ones that I bought as a favour to my receptionist’s daughter when she had a party. Coming a close second were the ones I got from the caterers’ supplies place.
buffy said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:There is no mechanical difference between an $800 Dyson and a $50 Anko cheapie.
if that is the case then yes… let’s put Dyson out of business too…
I’ve got a few Tuppeware things, but I’ve never actually been to a Tuppeware party. In my experience they do last better than most other plastic containers, and I have tried out the lifetime guarantee (not sure if they still have that) and claimed a replacement lid many years after buying the original container. I got a new lid without any problems.
we all have Tupperware things.. they do last, but they are butt ugly and quite frankly, outdated. although I did like their can openers that would reseal the can and not leave a sharp edge.. mind you I could probably find one similar somewhere else…
I think DS is on the money here… their method of delivery is outdated given that no-one has time for parties and pyramid schemes…
Arts said:
buffy said:
Arts said:if that is the case then yes… let’s put Dyson out of business too…
I’ve got a few Tuppeware things, but I’ve never actually been to a Tuppeware party. In my experience they do last better than most other plastic containers, and I have tried out the lifetime guarantee (not sure if they still have that) and claimed a replacement lid many years after buying the original container. I got a new lid without any problems.
we all have Tupperware things.. they do last, but they are butt ugly and quite frankly, outdated. although I did like their can openers that would reseal the can and not leave a sharp edge.. mind you I could probably find one similar somewhere else…
I think DS is on the money here… their method of delivery is outdated given that no-one has time for parties and pyramid schemes…
reseal = unseal
Arts said:
buffy said:
Arts said:if that is the case then yes… let’s put Dyson out of business too…
I’ve got a few Tuppeware things, but I’ve never actually been to a Tuppeware party. In my experience they do last better than most other plastic containers, and I have tried out the lifetime guarantee (not sure if they still have that) and claimed a replacement lid many years after buying the original container. I got a new lid without any problems.
we all have Tupperware things.. they do last, but they are butt ugly and quite frankly, outdated. although I did like their can openers that would reseal the can and not leave a sharp edge.. mind you I could probably find one similar somewhere else…
I think DS is on the money here… their method of delivery is outdated given that no-one has time for parties and pyramid schemes…
There have been times when they had acceptable colours. But not all that often.
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:
On Tuesday, after more than 70 years of business, Tupperware filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy succumbing to mounting losses amid poor demand for its once-iconic food storage containers.globalisation has ruined multibillion dollar businesses.
why the fuck would we pay $18 for a lunch box when you can get one that works just as well for $6 at Coles.
It’s not just that I think… there are places for premium priced products in the market…. Tupperware it seems just relied too heavily on an out moded form of marketing and sales. They are the Blockbuster video of plastic storage companies.
Yeah, that too.
When they started, the mass production of plastic containers was a novel thing, and hard to copy. But now it is entry-level industrialisation for developing countries.
buffy said:
Arts said:
buffy said:I’ve got a few Tuppeware things, but I’ve never actually been to a Tuppeware party. In my experience they do last better than most other plastic containers, and I have tried out the lifetime guarantee (not sure if they still have that) and claimed a replacement lid many years after buying the original container. I got a new lid without any problems.
we all have Tupperware things.. they do last, but they are butt ugly and quite frankly, outdated. although I did like their can openers that would reseal the can and not leave a sharp edge.. mind you I could probably find one similar somewhere else…
I think DS is on the money here… their method of delivery is outdated given that no-one has time for parties and pyramid schemes…
There have been times when they had acceptable colours. But not all that often.
I’m imagining an all new plastic storage business, one that offers affordable lunchboxes and other containers in a range of wholly acceptable colours. They will be easily available as a part of an ongoing subscription that is virtually impossible to cancel.
It seems the wheels really fell off at Tupperware over Covid.. a time when ironically, people were stockpiling perishable goods in their pantry… should have been a bonanza for them.. alas…
diddly-squat said:
buffy said:
Arts said:we all have Tupperware things.. they do last, but they are butt ugly and quite frankly, outdated. although I did like their can openers that would reseal the can and not leave a sharp edge.. mind you I could probably find one similar somewhere else…
I think DS is on the money here… their method of delivery is outdated given that no-one has time for parties and pyramid schemes…
There have been times when they had acceptable colours. But not all that often.
I’m imagining an all new plastic storage business, one that offers affordable lunchboxes and other containers in a range of wholly acceptable colours. They will be easily available as a part of an ongoing subscription that is virtually impossible to cancel.
I’ll just get them on an as needs basis from the local potato emporium :)
party_pants said:
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:globalisation has ruined multibillion dollar businesses.
why the fuck would we pay $18 for a lunch box when you can get one that works just as well for $6 at Coles.
It’s not just that I think… there are places for premium priced products in the market…. Tupperware it seems just relied too heavily on an out moded form of marketing and sales. They are the Blockbuster video of plastic storage companies.
Yeah, that too.
When they started, the mass production of plastic containers was a novel thing, and hard to copy. But now it is entry-level industrialisation for developing countries.
never had tupperware when i was a kid with a packed lunch for school. bit of greaseproof pare in a paper bag or if mum had none of that you had to hold sanger in your hand until lunch.
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
diddly-squat said:It’s not just that I think… there are places for premium priced products in the market…. Tupperware it seems just relied too heavily on an out moded form of marketing and sales. They are the Blockbuster video of plastic storage companies.
Yeah, that too.
When they started, the mass production of plastic containers was a novel thing, and hard to copy. But now it is entry-level industrialisation for developing countries.
never had tupperware when i was a kid with a packed lunch for school. bit of greaseproof
parein a paper bag or if mum had none of that you had to hold sanger in your hand until lunch.
paper
so in summary fuck CHINA for being mass production line of the world and causing deflation when inflation is wrecking advanced economies wait WTF oh
buffy said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:There is no mechanical difference between an $800 Dyson and a $50 Anko cheapie.
if that is the case then yes… let’s put Dyson out of business too…
I’ve got a few Tuppeware things, but I’ve never actually been to a Tuppeware party. In my experience they do last better than most other plastic containers, and I have tried out the lifetime guarantee (not sure if they still have that) and claimed a replacement lid many years after buying the original container. I got a new lid without any problems.
It is true that their product did amd still does peee all ove the cheap Chinese stuff at Woolworths.
Arts said:
buffy said:
Arts said:if that is the case then yes… let’s put Dyson out of business too…
I’ve got a few Tuppeware things, but I’ve never actually been to a Tuppeware party. In my experience they do last better than most other plastic containers, and I have tried out the lifetime guarantee (not sure if they still have that) and claimed a replacement lid many years after buying the original container. I got a new lid without any problems.
we all have Tupperware things.. they do last, but they are butt ugly and quite frankly, outdated. although I did like their can openers that would reseal the can and not leave a sharp edge.. mind you I could probably find one similar somewhere else…
I think DS is on the money here… their method of delivery is outdated given that no-one has time for parties and pyramid schemes…
Agree.
Fire training this evening was a desktop exercise with a borrowed training kit. It is designed to allow newer vollies gain a grasp of the management of a fire, and how important it’s for them to report in what they can see.
Incident Control, that can’t see the incident, can only manage what they are informed of. If the firefighters on the ground don’t report in, IC don’t know what is going on.
This may look like dinky toys, but it is one of our better training tools for incident management.
Fire starts, heading towards town…

Water bombers drop on the fire but there is a wind change forecast…

The fire breaks out on one side and begins starting spot fires…

After some delays due to some dickhead launching a drone and grounding aerial support, a local farmer shoots the drone out of the sky, and the water bombers can be retasked and lay some wet lines along the road, saving several assets.

Most of the assets are saved, and the firefighters drink a lot of beer.
In theory…
I just found where these models come from.
https://bushfiremodel.com.au/
I’m putting in an order as we speak.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/tWe9Yzs1TYJE2nUE/?mibextid=D5vuiz
Skeddadler
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees at the back door and overcast. There was some rain during the night. We are forecast 13 degrees, showers and windy.
Probably an inside day today with that forecast. I’ve got some sewing I might get on with.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees at the back door and overcast. There was some rain during the night. We are forecast 13 degrees, showers and windy.Probably an inside day today with that forecast. I’ve got some sewing I might get on with.
This recent rain has improved our Jan-Sept rainfall up to 377mm. Longterm average (1882-2024) for this time period is 545mm. Still got some catching up to do this year yet.
Good morning everybody.
17.0° C, 66% RH, a light air and mostly cloudy. BoM forecasts aa top of 27° C and not much chance of rain.
Agenda: I’m cook tonight and it’s Mrs V’s low kJ day. She wants tomato, eggs and greens stir-fry. Normally the greens would be broccoli, but we have none, so it will be snow peas. I might have sardines on toast for breakfast. I’ll have washing up to do after breakfast. And I’ll have to go to the pharmacy to get the newly prescribed prostate medicine.
Morning pilgrims.
Today it will be a reunion of the class of 65.
I look forward to it, it gives me a chance to tell lies and embellish them.
Over.
Another chilly one on the island. Heading for 11 with rain and frigid wind.
Bubblecar said:
Another chilly one on the island. Heading for 11 with rain and frigid wind.
Brrrrr.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Another chilly one on the island. Heading for 11 with rain and frigid wind.
Brrrrr.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Another chilly one on the island. Heading for 11 with rain and frigid wind.
Brrrrr.
18 -> 24 3/8 cloud zero wind.
It is 17˚ here and heading for 22˚.
Mostly sunny. Winds westerly 25 to 40 km/h tending southwesterly 20 to 30 km/h in the late afternoon then becoming light in the evening. Chance of rain 10%
Greetings
Cymek said:
Greetings
Good morrow, sirrah.
Cymek said:
Greetings
Hello.
One of my scurvy crew has just reminded me that it is International Talk Like A Pirate Day.

ruby said:
One of my scurvy crew has just reminded me that it is International Talk Like A Pirate Day.
Och aye the noo noo noo.
Woodie said:
ruby said:
One of my scurvy crew has just reminded me that it is International Talk Like A Pirate Day.
Och aye the noo noo noo.
Arrrrrr.
Travelled 400km yesterday just to have a bloke look at my eyes.
Got home just after the moon popped up last eve.


Arts said:
buffy said:
Arts said:if that is the case then yes… let’s put Dyson out of business too…
I’ve got a few Tuppeware things, but I’ve never actually been to a Tuppeware party. In my experience they do last better than most other plastic containers, and I have tried out the lifetime guarantee (not sure if they still have that) and claimed a replacement lid many years after buying the original container. I got a new lid without any problems.
we all have Tupperware things.. they do last, but they are butt ugly and quite frankly, outdated. although I did like their can openers that would reseal the can and not leave a sharp edge.. mind you I could probably find one similar somewhere else…
I think DS is on the money here… their method of delivery is outdated given that no-one has time for parties and pyramid schemes…
30+ years old we reckon, done lot of work

transition said:
Arts said:
buffy said:I’ve got a few Tuppeware things, but I’ve never actually been to a Tuppeware party. In my experience they do last better than most other plastic containers, and I have tried out the lifetime guarantee (not sure if they still have that) and claimed a replacement lid many years after buying the original container. I got a new lid without any problems.
we all have Tupperware things.. they do last, but they are butt ugly and quite frankly, outdated. although I did like their can openers that would reseal the can and not leave a sharp edge.. mind you I could probably find one similar somewhere else…
I think DS is on the money here… their method of delivery is outdated given that no-one has time for parties and pyramid schemes…
30+ years old we reckon, done lot of work
Yes, I still use tupperware containers like that. Mine are fifty years old.

This morning I donated a lot of Oxalis to the FOGO bin. And now I am halfway through making a bonnet for my bushwandering friend. This was the original one I made to try out the pattern many years ago…it’s very practical, doesn’t blow off, protects the tops of your ears and you can wear earmuffs over it when mowing. I’ve recently made myself a black and white striped one for wandering in the bush. Goes with my black and white horizontal striped t-shirts (which ostensibly stop the flys landing to some extent).

The one I am making for J is a black background fabric with leaves and geckos on it.
dv said:
Bloody!
buffy said:
This morning I donated a lot of Oxalis to the FOGO bin. And now I am halfway through making a bonnet for my bushwandering friend. This was the original one I made to try out the pattern many years ago…it’s very practical, doesn’t blow off, protects the tops of your ears and you can wear earmuffs over it when mowing. I’ve recently made myself a black and white striped one for wandering in the bush. Goes with my black and white horizontal striped t-shirts (which ostensibly stop the flys landing to some extent).
The one I am making for J is a black background fabric with leaves and geckos on it.
It’s very pleasing. If I was a lady I’d wear it.
ruby said:
One of my scurvy crew has just reminded me that it is International Talk Like A Pirate Day.
my son’s 17th birthday… one more year and I will be the parent of adults… which is weird, because I haven’t aged a day
Arts said:
ruby said:
One of my scurvy crew has just reminded me that it is International Talk Like A Pirate Day.
my son’s 17th birthday… one more year and I will be the parent of adults… which is weird, because I haven’t aged a day
correct, you’ve aged years.
Arts said:
ruby said:
One of my scurvy crew has just reminded me that it is International Talk Like A Pirate Day.
my son’s 17th birthday… one more year and I will be the parent of adults… which is weird, because I haven’t aged a day
You just wait, there comes a point…
Arts said:
ruby said:
One of my scurvy crew has just reminded me that it is International Talk Like A Pirate Day.
my son’s 17th birthday… one more year and I will be the parent of adults… which is weird, because I haven’t aged a day
That painting you have in the roof-space must be really something.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
ruby said:
One of my scurvy crew has just reminded me that it is International Talk Like A Pirate Day.
my son’s 17th birthday… one more year and I will be the parent of adults… which is weird, because I haven’t aged a day
You just wait, there comes a point…
It’s usually your knees that spreak up first:
“Good morning. You know how, yesterday, you didn’t feel at all old? Well, cop this, young Harry!”
And it’s like that from then on.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:my son’s 17th birthday… one more year and I will be the parent of adults… which is weird, because I haven’t aged a day
You just wait, there comes a point…
It’s usually your knees that spreak up first:
“Good morning. You know how, yesterday, you didn’t feel at all old? Well, cop this, young Harry!”
And it’s like that from then on.
For me it was hands and feet; originally no feeling. The feet are now in constant pain.
It’s been a while between books, but I picked ‘Olive Kitteridge’ out of my box of books a couple of days ago, and am enjoying it. I’m told it was made into a mini series, but I’m a bigger fan of reading and imagining characters rather than watch other people’s interpretation.
Arts said:
ruby said:
One of my scurvy crew has just reminded me that it is International Talk Like A Pirate Day.
my son’s 17th birthday… one more year and I will be the parent of adults… which is weird, because I haven’t aged a day
And here is the bonnet for J. Minor fitting to be finished when I’ve got her head available (Saturday at breakfast). I extended the ducks tail at the back for her because she has to keep the sun off her skin (medication side effects).

This is my zebra inspired bonnet.

J wants to take me to an easy walk in the Grampians to the Beehive Falls. She will be on her walker, but she assures me she will be able to make it to the falls. The online stuff says it’s about 1.4km in to the falls, so 2.8 return. She has done that with me at our covenant on less formed tracks than the tourist ones. I can’t remember seeing those ones myself, although I may have many years ago. J and her husband (who died last year) used to go the falls and then apparently there is a difficult track up the side and on for a long trek which they used to do. We are both daft enough to wear our bonnets and tourists be damned!
kestrel to keeps ya company, out back earlier. No idea what looks like, computer’s gone bonkers, got no brightness control, screan settings lot changed, rolls updates back constantly, but i’m working on it, perhaps a prayer might help, not tried that yet. Plenty atheists to blame if things don’t turn around

and cup of tea and snacks what has now
Cool building

Ancient fossil discovery rewrites origin of Australia’s dingoes
A belief that dingo ancestors originally came from India or Thailand has been overhauled.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/ancient-fossil-discovery-rewrites-origin-of-australias-dingoes-090149601.html
https://youtu.be/FbZ6-g8BK-Q?si=UoIPjiMjMYOkzb7a
CityNerd
Cities with good transit access to nature
buffy said:
And here is the bonnet for J. Minor fitting to be finished when I’ve got her head available (Saturday at breakfast). I extended the ducks tail at the back for her because she has to keep the sun off her skin (medication side effects).
This is my zebra inspired bonnet.
J wants to take me to an easy walk in the Grampians to the Beehive Falls. She will be on her walker, but she assures me she will be able to make it to the falls. The online stuff says it’s about 1.4km in to the falls, so 2.8 return. She has done that with me at our covenant on less formed tracks than the tourist ones. I can’t remember seeing those ones myself, although I may have many years ago. J and her husband (who died last year) used to go the falls and then apparently there is a difficult track up the side and on for a long trek which they used to do. We are both daft enough to wear our bonnets and tourists be damned!
:)
I’m sure she’ll love it.
Forgot to put out my FOGO bin AGAIN.
Maybe that’s what it stands for: Forget Organic Garbage Often.
esselte said:
Cool building
That would make for much more enjoyable baptisms.
Here ya go, get in the rooftop holy waterslide and when you reach the inground pool, you’re done.
Hallelujah!
Help. It’s driving me miss daisy that I can’t remember or identify….
Can anyone name the song that has the bit that goes “Na na na. Nanana na na nana nananana”?
Searching, there’s a bunch of them. It’s not Hey Jude. It’s not any of the more recent songs, I feel like it’s 70’s, 80’s a the latest….
Distinguishing feature, It’s got a big percussion BOOM…. so like “Na na na BOOM, na na na na na na na nananana BOOM”.
Time to Change
Brady Bunch
esselte said:
Help. It’s driving me miss daisy that I can’t remember or identify….
Can anyone name the song that has the bit that goes “Na na na. Nanana na na nana nananana”?
Searching, there’s a bunch of them. It’s not Hey Jude. It’s not any of the more recent songs, I feel like it’s 70’s, 80’s a the latest….
Distinguishing feature, It’s got a big percussion BOOM…. so like “Na na na BOOM, na na na na na na na nananana BOOM”.
Minions theme tune. 🙂
esselte said:
Help. It’s driving me miss daisy that I can’t remember or identify….
Can anyone name the song that has the bit that goes “Na na na. Nanana na na nana nananana”?
Searching, there’s a bunch of them. It’s not Hey Jude. It’s not any of the more recent songs, I feel like it’s 70’s, 80’s a the latest….
Distinguishing feature, It’s got a big percussion BOOM…. so like “Na na na BOOM, na na na na na na na nananana BOOM”.
Isn’t it more like: Na na, na-nanana, na-na-na nana na-na-na?
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:Help. It’s driving me miss daisy that I can’t remember or identify….
Can anyone name the song that has the bit that goes “Na na na. Nanana na na nana nananana”?
Searching, there’s a bunch of them. It’s not Hey Jude. It’s not any of the more recent songs, I feel like it’s 70’s, 80’s a the latest….
Distinguishing feature, It’s got a big percussion BOOM…. so like “Na na na BOOM, na na na na na na na nananana BOOM”.
Isn’t it more like: Na na, na-nanana, na-na-na nana na-na-na?
This guy sings it here
Na na na BOOM
https://youtu.be/gRSdwgt5jFg?t=33
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:Help. It’s driving me miss daisy that I can’t remember or identify….
Can anyone name the song that has the bit that goes “Na na na. Nanana na na nana nananana”?
Searching, there’s a bunch of them. It’s not Hey Jude. It’s not any of the more recent songs, I feel like it’s 70’s, 80’s a the latest….
Distinguishing feature, It’s got a big percussion BOOM…. so like “Na na na BOOM, na na na na na na na nananana BOOM”.
Isn’t it more like: Na na, na-nanana, na-na-na nana na-na-na?
This guy sings it here
Na na na BOOM
https://youtu.be/gRSdwgt5jFg?t=33
Never heard of that one.
Got my new spectacle lenses today (not from urologist). I approve of them.
OCDC said:
Got my new spectacle lenses today (not from urologist). I approve of them.
Goodo, what shape?
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:Isn’t it more like: Na na, na-nanana, na-na-na nana na-na-na?
This guy sings it here
Na na na BOOM
https://youtu.be/gRSdwgt5jFg?t=33
Never heard of that one.
Got it. Simon and Garfunkel’s The Boxer.
It’s actually
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie, lie-lie-lie-lie-lie
and here’s me searching
na na na and
la la la like an idiot:)
No wonder I couldn’t find it.
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:Help. It’s driving me miss daisy that I can’t remember or identify….
Can anyone name the song that has the bit that goes “Na na na. Nanana na na nana nananana”?
Searching, there’s a bunch of them. It’s not Hey Jude. It’s not any of the more recent songs, I feel like it’s 70’s, 80’s a the latest….
Distinguishing feature, It’s got a big percussion BOOM…. so like “Na na na BOOM, na na na na na na na nananana BOOM”.
Isn’t it more like: Na na, na-nanana, na-na-na nana na-na-na?
This guy sings it here
Na na na BOOM
https://youtu.be/gRSdwgt5jFg?t=33
The Boxer, Simon and Garfunkel
Michael V said:
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:Isn’t it more like: Na na, na-nanana, na-na-na nana na-na-na?
This guy sings it here
Na na na BOOM
https://youtu.be/gRSdwgt5jFg?t=33
The Boxer, Simon and Garfunkel
Cheers MV :)
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:Lens shaped.Got my new spectacle lenses today (not from urologist). I approve of them.Goodo, what shape?
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:This guy sings it here
Na na na BOOM
https://youtu.be/gRSdwgt5jFg?t=33
Never heard of that one.
Got it. Simon and Garfunkel’s The Boxer.
It’s actually
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie, lie-lie-lie-lie-lieand here’s me searching
na na na and
la la la like an idiot:)No wonder I couldn’t find it.
No you’ve named it, I can recognise it.
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:This guy sings it here
Na na na BOOM
https://youtu.be/gRSdwgt5jFg?t=33
Never heard of that one.
Got it. Simon and Garfunkel’s The Boxer.
It’s actually
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie, lie-lie-lie-lie-lieand here’s me searching
na na na and
la la la like an idiot:)No wonder I couldn’t find it.
bad clue.
i was about to offer…at 2:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhwNVhCb8b8
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:Never heard of that one.
Got it. Simon and Garfunkel’s The Boxer.
It’s actually
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie, lie-lie-lie-lie-lieand here’s me searching
na na na and
la la la like an idiot:)No wonder I couldn’t find it.
No you’ve named it, I can recognise it.
No = now
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:OCDC said:Lens shaped.Got my new spectacle lenses today (not from urologist). I approve of them.Goodo, what shape?
Sensible choice.
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:I really wanted Dalek shaped, but my frames are Tardis blue and I didn’t want to run the risk of getting caught up in a timeless battle.Bubblecar said:Sensible choice.Goodo, what shape?Lens shaped.


Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:Got it. Simon and Garfunkel’s The Boxer.
It’s actually
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie, lie-lie-lie-lie-lieand here’s me searching
na na na and
la la la like an idiot:)No wonder I couldn’t find it.
No you’ve named it, I can recognise it.
No = now
There’s a greater than zero number of apps that purport to be able to identify songs even if you just hum them. I cannot verify this specific claim…
sarahs mum said:
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:Never heard of that one.
Got it. Simon and Garfunkel’s The Boxer.
It’s actually
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie, lie-lie-lie-lie-lieand here’s me searching
na na na and
la la la like an idiot:)No wonder I couldn’t find it.
bad clue.
i was about to offer…at 2:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhwNVhCb8b8
Ta. The search has at least made me aware of the ludicrous number of songs that have la la la or na na na in their lyrics. Makes sense I guess, I’d just not thought about it before.
esselte said:
Michael V said:
esselte said:This guy sings it here
Na na na BOOM
https://youtu.be/gRSdwgt5jFg?t=33
The Boxer, Simon and Garfunkel
Cheers MV :)
I see I was too late, and you have solved it yourself. I had to repeat it a few times to get it.
sarahs mum said:

esselte said:
sarahs mum said:
esselte said:Got it. Simon and Garfunkel’s The Boxer.
It’s actually
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie, lie-lie-lie-lie-lieand here’s me searching
na na na and
la la la like an idiot:)No wonder I couldn’t find it.
bad clue.
i was about to offer…at 2:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhwNVhCb8b8
Ta. The search has at least made me aware of the ludicrous number of songs that have la la la or na na na in their lyrics. Makes sense I guess, I’d just not thought about it before.
the lie la lie did sound original at the time of the boxer release.
sarahs mum said:
Brrrrrrr.
It’s been warm enough here to not have a shirt on since mid-morning. I’ll put it on again soon.
OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:OCDC said:I really wanted Dalek shaped, but my frames are Tardis blue and I didn’t want to run the risk of getting caught up in a timeless battle.Lens shaped.Sensible choice.
sarahs mum said:
Like the surface of Titan.
Probably going to the Pharoah exhibition at NGV tomorrow. Also getting drugs from The Alfred.
OCDC did the package arrive yet?
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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Brrrrrrr.
It’s been warm enough here to not have a shirt on since mid-morning. I’ll put it on again soon.
so a few weeks back when there was the cold winds and rain and half the state’s electrickery was out …there was that rescue of people walking on the mountain. the police knew. the council knew. Every man was out there already doing hero stuff. so those three SUVs that went up there on the rescue were council employees. nobodies in the structure of things. they knew the road and did the road very very slowly. keeping each other’s cars in view. they escaped the mountain with the rescued. they were congratulated by police and council emergency workers.
and then the shit hit the fan a few days later as the powers that be got upset that it was not a police rescue. It now looks like the P&P will just leave the stupid to the mountain.
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC did the package arrive yet?
… has the package ….
OCDC said:
OCDC said:Bubblecar said:Sensible choice.I really wanted Dalek shaped, but my frames are Tardis blue and I didn’t want to run the risk of getting caught up in a timeless battle.
Those look authoritative. Mine are circular, similar to these. But I’m well overdue for new ones.

Spiny Norman said:
OCDC did the package arrive yet?Not yet.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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Brrrrrrr.
It’s been warm enough here to not have a shirt on since mid-morning. I’ll put it on again soon.
so a few weeks back when there was the cold winds and rain and half the state’s electrickery was out …there was that rescue of people walking on the mountain. the police knew. the council knew. Every man was out there already doing hero stuff. so those three SUVs that went up there on the rescue were council employees. nobodies in the structure of things. they knew the road and did the road very very slowly. keeping each other’s cars in view. they escaped the mountain with the rescued. they were congratulated by police and council emergency workers.
and then the shit hit the fan a few days later as the powers that be got upset that it was not a police rescue. It now looks like the P&P will just leave the stupid to the mountain.
:(
OCDC said:
Spiny Norman said:OCDC did the package arrive yet?Not yet.
K.
sarahs mum said:
P&P ?
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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Brrrrrrr.
It’s been warm enough here to not have a shirt on since mid-morning. I’ll put it on again soon.
so a few weeks back when there was the cold winds and rain and half the state’s electrickery was out …there was that rescue of people walking on the mountain. the police knew. the council knew. Every man was out there already doing hero stuff. so those three SUVs that went up there on the rescue were council employees. nobodies in the structure of things. they knew the road and did the road very very slowly. keeping each other’s cars in view. they escaped the mountain with the rescued. they were congratulated by police and council emergency workers.
and then the shit hit the fan a few days later as the powers that be got upset that it was not a police rescue. It now looks like the P&P will just leave the stupid to the mountain.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:P&P ?
Michael V said:Brrrrrrr.
It’s been warm enough here to not have a shirt on since mid-morning. I’ll put it on again soon.
so a few weeks back when there was the cold winds and rain and half the state’s electrickery was out …there was that rescue of people walking on the mountain. the police knew. the council knew. Every man was out there already doing hero stuff. so those three SUVs that went up there on the rescue were council employees. nobodies in the structure of things. they knew the road and did the road very very slowly. keeping each other’s cars in view. they escaped the mountain with the rescued. they were congratulated by police and council emergency workers.
and then the shit hit the fan a few days later as the powers that be got upset that it was not a police rescue. It now looks like the P&P will just leave the stupid to the mountain.
the policy and procedures manual.
OCDC said:
OCDC said:Bubblecar said:Sensible choice.I really wanted Dalek shaped, but my frames are Tardis blue and I didn’t want to run the risk of getting caught up in a timeless battle.
Sferoflex are good. I wear Titanflex frames, which were the first titanium flexible frames to come on the market and are still going strong.
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
Got my new spectacle lenses today (not from urologist). I approve of them.
Goodo, what shape?
Milk bottle bottoms?
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:P&P ?so a few weeks back when there was the cold winds and rain and half the state’s electrickery was out …there was that rescue of people walking on the mountain. the police knew. the council knew. Every man was out there already doing hero stuff. so those three SUVs that went up there on the rescue were council employees. nobodies in the structure of things. they knew the road and did the road very very slowly. keeping each other’s cars in view. they escaped the mountain with the rescued. they were congratulated by police and council emergency workers.
and then the shit hit the fan a few days later as the powers that be got upset that it was not a police rescue. It now looks like the P&P will just leave the stupid to the mountain.
the policy and procedures manual.
all the gates up the mountain were locked. So council has to come up with the keys.
OCDC said:
Probably going to the Pharoah exhibition at NGV tomorrow. Also getting drugs from The Alfred.
While you are there, contemplate the information in the episodes of Stuff the British Stole…or if you haven’t seen it, watch the episodes about Egypt stuff after you have seen the exhibition
buffy said:
OCDC said:They’re my favourite frames which is why I just got new lenses for them. Usually in the past I’ve tried on millions of frames and just gone for the best of a bad bunch but these I loved immediately.OCDC said:Sferoflex are good. I wear Titanflex frames, which were the first titanium flexible frames to come on the market and are still going strong.I really wanted Dalek shaped, but my frames are Tardis blue and I didn’t want to run the risk of getting caught up in a timeless battle.
mr car…
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1052023403084685
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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Brrrrrrr.
It’s been warm enough here to not have a shirt on since mid-morning. I’ll put it on again soon.
What more could you want?

OCDC said:
buffy said:OCDC said:They’re my favourite frames which is why I just got new lenses for them. Usually in the past I’ve tried on millions of frames and just gone for the best of a bad bunch but these I loved immediately.Sferoflex are good. I wear Titanflex frames, which were the first titanium flexible frames to come on the market and are still going strong.
At the beginning people were a bit unsure about titanium frames. I used to tell them that they were very strong. And that titanium can survive re-entry into the atmosphere. They were relatively expensive but could stand multiple changes of lenses – mostly I had my farmers and tradies wearing them because they just broke anything else. I like the lightness of them.
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
OCDC said:I really wanted Dalek shaped, but my frames are Tardis blue and I didn’t want to run the risk of getting caught up in a timeless battle.
Those look authoritative. Mine are circular, similar to these. But I’m well overdue for new ones.
Mine are women’s spectacles according to the Specsavers sexist cattle dog. But they are light, comfortable and very rigid:


sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:P&P ?so a few weeks back when there was the cold winds and rain and half the state’s electrickery was out …there was that rescue of people walking on the mountain. the police knew. the council knew. Every man was out there already doing hero stuff. so those three SUVs that went up there on the rescue were council employees. nobodies in the structure of things. they knew the road and did the road very very slowly. keeping each other’s cars in view. they escaped the mountain with the rescued. they were congratulated by police and council emergency workers.
and then the shit hit the fan a few days later as the powers that be got upset that it was not a police rescue. It now looks like the P&P will just leave the stupid to the mountain.
the policy and procedures manual.
Ta.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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Brrrrrrr.
It’s been warm enough here to not have a shirt on since mid-morning. I’ll put it on again soon.
What more could you want?
It’s chilling off nicely now – 22.8° C, with a colourful sunset happening.
Better go get my t-shirt on.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
Those look authoritative. Mine are circular, similar to these. But I’m well overdue for new ones.
Mine are women’s spectacles according to the Specsavers sexist cattle dog. But they are light, comfortable and very rigid:
They look good
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Those look authoritative. Mine are circular, similar to these. But I’m well overdue for new ones.
Mine are women’s spectacles according to the Specsavers sexist cattle dog. But they are light, comfortable and very rigid:
They look good
Fixing those little screws into glasses you need glasses to see properly is a pain and that is when you haven’t lost them.
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Those look authoritative. Mine are circular, similar to these. But I’m well overdue for new ones.
Mine are women’s spectacles according to the Specsavers sexist cattle dog. But they are light, comfortable and very rigid:
They look good
And at $39, (frame only) very cheap.
This the fourth frame of this shape I’ve had. I’ve ruined two with falls…
Cymek said:
Cymek said:
Michael V said:Mine are women’s spectacles according to the Specsavers sexist cattle dog. But they are light, comfortable and very rigid:
They look good
Fixing those little screws into glasses you need glasses to see properly is a pain and that is when you haven’t lost them.
I know what you mean.
I haven’t had one screw come loose with these frames. Perhaps they use Loctite.
Michael V said:
Cymek said:
Cymek said:They look good
Fixing those little screws into glasses you need glasses to see properly is a pain and that is when you haven’t lost them.
I know what you mean.
I haven’t had one screw come loose with these frames. Perhaps they use Loctite.
I’m pretty sure I’ve got a screw loose.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
Got my new spectacle lenses today (not from urologist). I approve of them.
Goodo, what shape?
Milk bottle bottoms?
Two Ronnies style ?
Michael V said:
Cymek said:
Michael V said:Mine are women’s spectacles according to the Specsavers sexist cattle dog. But they are light, comfortable and very rigid:
They look good
And at $39, (frame only) very cheap.
This the fourth frame of this shape I’ve had. I’ve ruined two with falls…
That is a good price, can’t complain
something i’ve foundeffective with those screws that work themselves loose on specs:
after you tighten them up, get a drop of superglue on the end of e.g. a toothpick, and carefully dab it on the head of the screw.
No more problems with that screw.
captain_spalding said:
something i’ve foundeffective with those screws that work themselves loose on specs:after you tighten them up, get a drop of superglue on the end of e.g. a toothpick, and carefully dab it on the head of the screw.
No more problems with that screw.
That makes sense.
captain_spalding said:
something i’ve foundeffective with those screws that work themselves loose on specs:after you tighten them up, get a drop of superglue on the end of e.g. a toothpick, and carefully dab it on the head of the screw.
No more problems with that screw.
Nice trick. I’ve used nail polish on the threads.
I lost a screw at Woodie’s place. I replaced it with a bent sewing pin. I had a spare screw at home. I think I still have one spare screw.
Michael V said:
Cymek said:
Cymek said:They look good
Fixing those little screws into glasses you need glasses to see properly is a pain and that is when you haven’t lost them.
I know what you mean.
I haven’t had one screw come loose with these frames. Perhaps they use Loctite.
We had a sign above the workbench where repairs were done that said “Loctite all rim screws”.
captain_spalding said:
something i’ve foundeffective with those screws that work themselves loose on specs:after you tighten them up, get a drop of superglue on the end of e.g. a toothpick, and carefully dab it on the head of the screw.
No more problems with that screw.
Or clear nailpolish – easier to handle than superglue and less likely to incite the ire of anyone who has to fix your glasses in any way. We HATED superglue. If you want your frame to be reuseable…don’t put superglue on it. If you put it on the screw, that screw can’t be removed to replace the lenses. Nailpolish softens up with a bit of acetone and is removeable.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Cymek said:Fixing those little screws into glasses you need glasses to see properly is a pain and that is when you haven’t lost them.
I know what you mean.
I haven’t had one screw come loose with these frames. Perhaps they use Loctite.
We had a sign above the workbench where repairs were done that said “Loctite all rim screws”.
Like it!
:)
sarahs mum said:
mr car…https://www.facebook.com/reel/1052023403084685
Heh :)
I’s watering garden, more like october out there, yeah lot thirsty stuff, see what happens tuesday, expect some rain, hopefully the good Lord will be generous, ignore the unbelievers
atheists causing global boiling
I bet there’s a correlation between the number of atheists on the planet and global warming
the end days it is

it’s hard to pick one…
sarahs mum said:
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it’s hard to pick one…

I seem to have picked the winner.
sarahs mum said:
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it’s hard to pick one…
They’re all so likeable!
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
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it’s hard to pick one…
I seem to have picked the winner.
wwjd
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Cymek said:Fixing those little screws into glasses you need glasses to see properly is a pain and that is when you haven’t lost them.
I know what you mean.
I haven’t had one screw come loose with these frames. Perhaps they use Loctite.
We had a sign above the workbench where repairs were done that said “Loctite all rim screws”.
Ive seen the size of those screws, I bet you are still on the first bottle of loctite that you got after eye school.
Kingy said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:I know what you mean.
I haven’t had one screw come loose with these frames. Perhaps they use Loctite.
We had a sign above the workbench where repairs were done that said “Loctite all rim screws”.
Ive seen the size of those screws, I bet you are still on the first bottle of loctite that you got after eye school.
Would you be surprised if I told you there are far too many sizes and the whole thing should have been standardized years and years ago? My staff who were doing the repairs all the time could look at the frame and make a pretty accurate guess as to which one to pick. As I only did it occasionally I could look at the container for some time and pick the wrong size several times before getting the right size. And then if you needed a locknut too…


Saw an L-plated Mazda with the licence plate ISTALL
Any of youse seen the movie Random Harvest?
Kingy said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:I know what you mean.
I haven’t had one screw come loose with these frames. Perhaps they use Loctite.
We had a sign above the workbench where repairs were done that said “Loctite all rim screws”.
Ive seen the size of those screws, I bet you are still on the first bottle of loctite that you got after eye school.
Nightmare. I need a desk magnifying lamp, plus 2.5 glasses to do that.
dv said:
Any of youse seen the movie Random Harvest?
“Not I”, said the goose.
dv said:
Any of youse seen the movie Random Harvest?
Not me. Sounds rather convoluted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_Harvest_(film)#
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How’s Russia going with the ship and tank count?
Have they achieved zero yet.
Sparkly Bear has been stolen from a Melbourne shopping centre.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-19/sparkly-bear-unlikely-to-be-returned/104372966
Tau.Neutrino said:
How’s Russia going with the ship and tank count?Have they achieved zero yet.
ноль.
Bubblecar said:
Sparkly Bear has been stolen from a Melbourne shopping centre.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-19/sparkly-bear-unlikely-to-be-returned/104372966
It wasn’t me.
And any you can’t prove it.
dv said:
Any of youse seen the movie Random Harvest?
No and anyway you can’t prove it.
Earth may once have had a planetary ring
It would have collapsed 450m years ago

Photograph: NASA/JPL-Caltech
Sep 18th 2024
Could Earth once have had a planetary ring like the ones around Saturn? Scientists from Monash University in Australia think so. In a recent paper they identify 450m-year-old craters that lie close to Earth’s historical equator. They propose these were caused by the collapse of a ring of debris (possibly the remnants of a large asteroid) that once circled the planet. The ring might have lasted tens of millions of years, cooling Earth with its shadow.

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2024/09/18/earth-may-once-have-had-a-planetary-ring
Bubblecar said:
Sparkly Bear has been stolen from a Melbourne shopping centre.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-19/sparkly-bear-unlikely-to-be-returned/104372966
tragic that it becomes scrap.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Sparkly Bear has been stolen from a Melbourne shopping centre.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-19/sparkly-bear-unlikely-to-be-returned/104372966
tragic that it becomes scrap.
Rotters.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Earth may once have had a planetary ring
It would have collapsed 450m years ago
Photograph: NASA/JPL-Caltech
Sep 18th 2024Could Earth once have had a planetary ring like the ones around Saturn? Scientists from Monash University in Australia think so. In a recent paper they identify 450m-year-old craters that lie close to Earth’s historical equator. They propose these were caused by the collapse of a ring of debris (possibly the remnants of a large asteroid) that once circled the planet. The ring might have lasted tens of millions of years, cooling Earth with its shadow.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2024/09/18/earth-may-once-have-had-a-planetary-ring
Worth a thread.
Bubblecar said:
Sparkly Bear has been stolen from a Melbourne shopping centre.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-19/sparkly-bear-unlikely-to-be-returned/104372966
It was annoying other cyclists.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Earth may once have had a planetary ring
It would have collapsed 450m years ago
Photograph: NASA/JPL-Caltech
Sep 18th 2024Could Earth once have had a planetary ring like the ones around Saturn? Scientists from Monash University in Australia think so. In a recent paper they identify 450m-year-old craters that lie close to Earth’s historical equator. They propose these were caused by the collapse of a ring of debris (possibly the remnants of a large asteroid) that once circled the planet. The ring might have lasted tens of millions of years, cooling Earth with its shadow.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2024/09/18/earth-may-once-have-had-a-planetary-ring
Could you have a space station on one of the larger rocks?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Earth may once have had a planetary ring
It would have collapsed 450m years ago
Photograph: NASA/JPL-Caltech
Sep 18th 2024Could Earth once have had a planetary ring like the ones around Saturn? Scientists from Monash University in Australia think so. In a recent paper they identify 450m-year-old craters that lie close to Earth’s historical equator. They propose these were caused by the collapse of a ring of debris (possibly the remnants of a large asteroid) that once circled the planet. The ring might have lasted tens of millions of years, cooling Earth with its shadow.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2024/09/18/earth-may-once-have-had-a-planetary-ring
Could you have a space station on one of the larger rocks?
The technology didn’t exist 450 million years ago.
Kingy said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:I know what you mean.
I haven’t had one screw come loose with these frames. Perhaps they use Loctite.
We had a sign above the workbench where repairs were done that said “Loctite all rim screws”.
Ive seen the size of those screws, I bet you are still on the first bottle of loctite that you got after eye school.
One fell out of my last set of specs, having previously had them in for replacement and loctite of loose bits, and having a set of optometry screwdrivers I went to reinsert it.. but is not screw is bolt and the nut was missing.
from Heidi’s..

sarahs mum said:
from Heidi’s..
Imagine if that was ball lightning just floating around outside.
Tau.Neutrino said:
sarahs mum said:
from Heidi’s..
Imagine if that was ball lightning just floating around outside.
too much ice and snow.
dv said:
Saw an L-plated Mazda with the licence plate ISTALL
“I Stall”,
or “Is Tall”.
Either way, I allow “L” platers a bit of extra space.
We all had to learn how to drive, somewhere.
Kingy said:
dv said:
Saw an L-plated Mazda with the licence plate ISTALL
“I Stall”,
or “Is Tall”.
Either way, I allow “L” platers a bit of extra space.
We all had to learn how to drive, somewhere.
Some of us didn’t need it.. we very good drivers :)
Kingy said:
dv said:
Saw an L-plated Mazda with the licence plate ISTALL
“I Stall”,
or “Is Tall”.
Either way, I allow “L” platers a bit of extra space.
We all had to learn how to drive, somewhere.
There’s a bloke with one of those RAM Compensater stoopid big utes in these parts. It has a personalised number plate “BIG NICK”.
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
dv said:
Saw an L-plated Mazda with the licence plate ISTALL
“I Stall”,
or “Is Tall”.
Either way, I allow “L” platers a bit of extra space.
We all had to learn how to drive, somewhere.
There’s a bloke with one of those RAM Compensater stoopid big utes in these parts. It has a personalised number plate “BIG NICK”.
it’s part of das ist alles that’s all it is
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
dv said:
Saw an L-plated Mazda with the licence plate ISTALL
“I Stall”,
or “Is Tall”.
Either way, I allow “L” platers a bit of extra space.
We all had to learn how to drive, somewhere.
There’s a bloke with one of those RAM Compensater stoopid big utes in these parts. It has a personalised number plate “BIG NICK”.
There is also a bloke with “A” number plates here. I saw him drive past today. That is an eight figure number plate on a seven figure Rolls Royce Cullinan.
He also has another car with the number plate “1”. (probably nine $ figures)
I assume that it is either an extremely large inheritance, or just very successful crime.
The guys with a RAM ute are just wannabe crims, or straight up wankers.

party_pants said:
Kingy said:
dv said:
Saw an L-plated Mazda with the licence plate ISTALL
“I Stall”,
or “Is Tall”.
Either way, I allow “L” platers a bit of extra space.
We all had to learn how to drive, somewhere.
There’s a bloke with one of those RAM Compensater stoopid big utes in these parts. It has a personalised number plate “BIG NICK”.
GAVs
(Gender Affirming Vehicles)
Tupperware files for bankruptcy.
Customers can’t contain themselves.
dv said:
party_pants said:
Kingy said:“I Stall”,
or “Is Tall”.
Either way, I allow “L” platers a bit of extra space.
We all had to learn how to drive, somewhere.
There’s a bloke with one of those RAM Compensater stoopid big utes in these parts. It has a personalised number plate “BIG NICK”.
GAVs
(Gender Affirming Vehicles)
Morning pilgrims, up early at the redoubt
Had a good sleep, see what the day brings, the morning chorus is happening.
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:This guy sings it here
Na na na BOOM
https://youtu.be/gRSdwgt5jFg?t=33
Never heard of that one.
Got it. Simon and Garfunkel’s The Boxer.
It’s actually
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie
Lie-la-lie
Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie, lie-lie-lie-lie-lieand here’s me searching
na na na and
la la la like an idiot:)No wonder I couldn’t find it.
I daresay that’s the reason.
captain_spalding said:
something i’ve foundeffective with those screws that work themselves loose on specs:after you tighten them up, get a drop of superglue on the end of e.g. a toothpick, and carefully dab it on the head of the screw.
No more problems with that screw.
I fixed thousands of pairs of spectacles. The OPSM shop used to send their customers to us. The ones who couldn’t wait or the ones who didn’t buy their specs from them.
The best fix for that screw is to use a punch and centre pop them and rivet the end over. They never come out again.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees at the back door, overcast and still. We are forecast 13 degrees with a high chance of showers.
No specific plans. Maybe put some more Oxalis into the FOGO . Maybe some more sewing. Definitely some identifications for others on iNaturalist.
sarahs mum said:
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it’s hard to pick one…
All of the above.
Kingy said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:I know what you mean.
I haven’t had one screw come loose with these frames. Perhaps they use Loctite.
We had a sign above the workbench where repairs were done that said “Loctite all rim screws”.
Ive seen the size of those screws, I bet you are still on the first bottle of loctite that you got after eye school.
We watchmakers used loctite on the winding stems and on the aitomatic plate screws and I’ve still got a bottle that lasted fifty years.
buffy said:
Kingy said:
buffy said:We had a sign above the workbench where repairs were done that said “Loctite all rim screws”.
Ive seen the size of those screws, I bet you are still on the first bottle of loctite that you got after eye school.
Would you be surprised if I told you there are far too many sizes and the whole thing should have been standardized years and years ago? My staff who were doing the repairs all the time could look at the frame and make a pretty accurate guess as to which one to pick. As I only did it occasionally I could look at the container for some time and pick the wrong size several times before getting the right size. And then if you needed a locknut too…
Not surprised. Assortments of spec screws have been available for donkeys years.
Bubblecar said:
Sparkly Bear has been stolen from a Melbourne shopping centre.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-19/sparkly-bear-unlikely-to-be-returned/104372966
Difficult to slip that under one’s shirt.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees at the back door, overcast and still. We are forecast 13 degrees with a high chance of showers.No specific plans. Maybe put some more Oxalis into the FOGO . Maybe some more sewing. Definitely some identifications for others on iNaturalist.
1.3 °C here aith the expectation of 21 °C later.
I have about two washing baskets of oranges to juice and freeze.
6/12
roughbarked said:
weekly news quiz6/12
Also 6/12. I didn’t know many of them at all. Except the plastic boxes one because it was discussed here.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
weekly news quiz6/12
Also 6/12. I didn’t know many of them at all. Except the plastic boxes one because it was discussed here.
Exactly what I thought. Hadn’t read much of what the questions were about.
turns
out it really is all men
SCIENCE said:
turns
out it really is all men
It was certainly, those men.
Gnintgs
Fine, warming up.. to 29C today
Evenings been very pleasant.. full moon, fruit bats, fireflies.. scent of native frangipani…
Some more wall grinding scraping and shaping..

Ian said:
Tamb said:
Ian said:
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I have never liked the “win by x wickets” reporting.
IMO the number of balls remaining is the best indication of the result.
I tend to agree. However, it is what it is.
Hello
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
Ian said:
I have never liked the “win by x wickets” reporting.
IMO the number of balls remaining is the best indication of the result.I tend to agree. However, it is what it is.
pretty sure losing wickets should affect the calculations so oh wait would

you look at that, it looks like it does, wow
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
I have never liked the “win by x wickets” reporting.
IMO the number of balls remaining is the best indication of the result.I tend to agree. However, it is what it is.
pretty sure losing wickets should affect the calculations so oh wait would
you look at that, it looks like it does, wow

Someone should remind this guy that we’re not here to f*** spiders.
dv said:
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Someone should remind this guy that we’re not here to f*** spiders.
Tamb said:
dv said:
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Someone should remind this guy that we’re not here to f*** spiders.
I suggest jockeys not boxers.
I found one in the bedroom earlier this week. They mostly infest the garage but do get into the house from time to time.
dv said:
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Someone should remind this guy that we’re not here to f*** spiders.
He should lift the seat and check first before he drops his dacks and sits down.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
dv said:
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Someone should remind this guy that we’re not here to f*** spiders.
I suggest jockeys not boxers.
I found one in the bedroom earlier this week. They mostly infest the garage but do get into the house from time to time.
What kind of spider?
dv said:
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Someone should remind this guy that we’re not here to f*** spiders.
hope doesn’t get necrotizingphallusitus, nasty that is, sometimes it’s just called necrotic phallus, or rotten willy syndrome
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
dv said:
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Someone should remind this guy that we’re not here to f*** spiders.
I suggest jockeys not boxers.
I found one in the bedroom earlier this week. They mostly infest the garage but do get into the house from time to time.
They go looking for any dark space and they are very small when they do that.
transition said:
dv said:
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Someone should remind this guy that we’re not here to f*** spiders.
hope doesn’t get necrotizingphallusitus, nasty that is, sometimes it’s just called necrotic phallus, or rotten willy syndrome
Seeing that spiders don’t have toothbrushes, this always remains a possibility with any spider bite.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:I suggest jockeys not boxers.
I found one in the bedroom earlier this week. They mostly infest the garage but do get into the house from time to time.
I used to live in a place with about 50 within a couple of m of my bed existing quietly on the windows.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:I suggest jockeys not boxers.
I found one in the bedroom earlier this week. They mostly infest the garage but do get into the house from time to time.
What kind of spider?
Redback.
Only need one of these, to secure the workshop door by way of a wire hook.
But you can only buy them by the half kilo, $7.95 + $15.63 postage.

Bubblecar said:
Only need one of these, to secure the workshop door by way of a wire hook.But you can only buy them by the half kilo, $7.95 + $15.63 postage.
We’ve got quite a lot of them, in various sizes, out in the shed. Used for attaching fencing wire to posts…
Ian said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:I suggest jockeys not boxers.
I found one in the bedroom earlier this week. They mostly infest the garage but do get into the house from time to time.
I used to live in a place with about 50 within a couple of m of my bed existing quietly on the windows.
So you didn’t feel the need to get rid of them? I blasted the one I found with this.

buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Only need one of these, to secure the workshop door by way of a wire hook.But you can only buy them by the half kilo, $7.95 + $15.63 postage.
We’ve got quite a lot of them, in various sizes, out in the shed. Used for attaching fencing wire to posts…
Could you please post me one? Or two would be better, in case I mangle one of them.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Only need one of these, to secure the workshop door by way of a wire hook.But you can only buy them by the half kilo, $7.95 + $15.63 postage.
We’ve got quite a lot of them, in various sizes, out in the shed. Used for attaching fencing wire to posts…
Could you please post me one? Or two would be better, in case I mangle one of them.
I’m sure Mr Tunks could help.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:We’ve got quite a lot of them, in various sizes, out in the shed. Used for attaching fencing wire to posts…
Could you please post me one? Or two would be better, in case I mangle one of them.
I’m sure Mr Tunks could help.
I don’t see him very often.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Only need one of these, to secure the workshop door by way of a wire hook.But you can only buy them by the half kilo, $7.95 + $15.63 postage.
We’ve got quite a lot of them, in various sizes, out in the shed. Used for attaching fencing wire to posts…
Could you please post me one? Or two would be better, in case I mangle one of them.
Can do…do you want huge or medium? I think the ones you showed were huge.

Bubblecar said:
Ian said:
Bubblecar said:I found one in the bedroom earlier this week. They mostly infest the garage but do get into the house from time to time.
I used to live in a place with about 50 within a couple of m of my bed existing quietly on the windows.
So you didn’t feel the need to get rid of them? I blasted the one I found with this.
Yeah somewhat but the blokes already living there assured me it was quite survivabile..
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:We’ve got quite a lot of them, in various sizes, out in the shed. Used for attaching fencing wire to posts…
Could you please post me one? Or two would be better, in case I mangle one of them.
Can do…do you want huge or medium? I think the ones you showed were huge.
Ta, I’ll go and measure the thickness of the door frame wood.
Bubblecar said:
Only need one of these, to secure the workshop door by way of a wire hook.But you can only buy them by the half kilo, $7.95 + $15.63 postage.
Were looking for a heavy duty rubber band.. same thing.. smallest pack is 500
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Could you please post me one? Or two would be better, in case I mangle one of them.
Can do…do you want huge or medium? I think the ones you showed were huge.
Ta, I’ll go and measure the thickness of the door frame wood.
I should think that middle-sized one will do.
It’s just to bang into the workshop door frame so I can keep the door closed by means of a wire hook attached to the door handle.
Workshop has two doors, one of which is locked and bolted, but the other currently has no way of securely shutting it.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:I found one in the bedroom earlier this week. They mostly infest the garage but do get into the house from time to time.
What kind of spider?
Redback.

Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:Can do…do you want huge or medium? I think the ones you showed were huge.
Ta, I’ll go and measure the thickness of the door frame wood.
I should think that middle-sized one will do.
It’s just to bang into the workshop door frame so I can keep the door closed by means of a wire hook attached to the door handle.
Workshop has two doors, one of which is locked and bolted, but the other currently has no way of securely shutting it.
A selection will leave here in the AustPost truck at 4.00pm this afternoon.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Ta, I’ll go and measure the thickness of the door frame wood.
I should think that middle-sized one will do.
It’s just to bang into the workshop door frame so I can keep the door closed by means of a wire hook attached to the door handle.
Workshop has two doors, one of which is locked and bolted, but the other currently has no way of securely shutting it.
A selection will leave here in the AustPost truck at 4.00pm this afternoon.
Thanks very much :)
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:I should think that middle-sized one will do.
It’s just to bang into the workshop door frame so I can keep the door closed by means of a wire hook attached to the door handle.
Workshop has two doors, one of which is locked and bolted, but the other currently has no way of securely shutting it.
A selection will leave here in the AustPost truck at 4.00pm this afternoon.
Thanks very much :)
Just make sure you send buffy her $15.63.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:A selection will leave here in the AustPost truck at 4.00pm this afternoon.
Thanks very much :)
Just make sure you send buffy her $15.63.
I sent her some buttons a while back, that should cover it :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:A selection will leave here in the AustPost truck at 4.00pm this afternoon.
Thanks very much :)
Just make sure you send buffy her $15.63.
I laid them flat, stickytaped to a couple of bits of cardboard and was able to send it as a small letter – $1.50. Bargain!
lunch will be, will be soonish, cooking it is, the food is cooking, and what is it? you might ask, and I may respond it’s cooking food, narrows it down for you the reader, don’t want t take all the work out of it, render it an effortless read, an effortless comprehension, otherwise you could become too accustomed to everything being so easy, too easy, become spoiled by ease, then you want it all, anything you want anytime, and should I help you that way?, your want for infinite convenience could be the seeds of a tyranny, a tyrannical runaway desire for convenience, a moral corruption that way
oh look the food’s landed
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:Thanks very much :)
Just make sure you send buffy her $15.63.
I laid them flat, stickytaped to a couple of bits of cardboard and was able to send it as a small letter – $1.50. Bargain!
:)
transition said:
lunch will be, will be soonish, cooking it is, the food is cooking, and what is it? you might ask, and I may respond it’s cooking food, narrows it down for you the reader, don’t want t take all the work out of it, render it an effortless read, an effortless comprehension, otherwise you could become too accustomed to everything being so easy, too easy, become spoiled by ease, then you want it all, anything you want anytime, and should I help you that way?, your want for infinite convenience could be the seeds of a tyranny, a tyrannical runaway desire for convenience, a moral corruption that wayoh look the food’s landed
Most likely noodles on toast.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:Thanks very much :)
Just make sure you send buffy her $15.63.
I sent her some buttons a while back, that should cover it :)
OK fair enough then :)
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
lunch will be, will be soonish, cooking it is, the food is cooking, and what is it? you might ask, and I may respond it’s cooking food, narrows it down for you the reader, don’t want t take all the work out of it, render it an effortless read, an effortless comprehension, otherwise you could become too accustomed to everything being so easy, too easy, become spoiled by ease, then you want it all, anything you want anytime, and should I help you that way?, your want for infinite convenience could be the seeds of a tyranny, a tyrannical runaway desire for convenience, a moral corruption that wayoh look the food’s landed
Most likely noodles on toast.
I couldn’t possibly say, deny it or otherwise, that would be to give away too much information, and you are an unworthy, unworthy of such detail, so here I am depriving you, a deprivation to parry against the depravity of your casual endless want to know, it wanders anywhere and everywhere, a depraved territorial wandering, an interest that way, pretending to care, a vulturous caring
so ends that episode of typing practice, cup of tea now then to jobs
transition said:
dv said:
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Someone should remind this guy that we’re not here to f*** spiders.
hope doesn’t get necrotizingphallusitus, nasty that is, sometimes it’s just called necrotic phallus, or rotten willy syndrome
fafo
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
dv said:
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Someone should remind this guy that we’re not here to f*** spiders.
hope doesn’t get necrotizingphallusitus, nasty that is, sometimes it’s just called necrotic phallus, or rotten willy syndrome
fafo
One shouldn’t put willies in unknown holes
Rang Aurora about my power balance.
The Aurora+ app thinks I’m $25 in debt and keeps telling me to “top up to stay ahead”.
But the Aurora lady on the phone thinks I’m $75 in credit and couldn’t explain why the app disagrees.
So I’ll just ignore it for now and assume she’s right :/
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:Thanks very much :)
Just make sure you send buffy her $15.63.
I sent her some buttons a while back, that should cover it :)
Let’s hope the ATO doesn’t get wind of all this bartering.
Well bugger me fuglied.!!!!
I very close an wonderful work colleague from 25 years ago has died. Funeral in Sydney next Thursday.
Try to book flights> (Ballina to Sydney return)
Going is fine on Wednesday. Sensible hour – $97 with bags. $57 without bags.
Return of Friday – Sensible hour – $908. yep. $908. Cheapest all that day? $368.
1hr 15min flight each way.
Bugger me fuglied!!!
Woodie said:
Well bugger me fuglied.!!!!I very close an wonderful work colleague from 25 years ago has died. Funeral in Sydney next Thursday.
Try to book flights> (Ballina to Sydney return)
Going is fine on Wednesday. Sensible hour – $97 with bags. $57 without bags.
Return of Friday – Sensible hour – $908. yep. $908. Cheapest all that day? $368.
1hr 15min flight each way.
Bugger me fuglied!!!
Do you mean Coolangatta or are you hanging off a cessna wing actually from Ballina?
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
hope doesn’t get necrotizingphallusitus, nasty that is, sometimes it’s just called necrotic phallus, or rotten willy syndrome
fafo
One shouldn’t put willies in unknown holes
or even most known ones
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:
Well bugger me fuglied.!!!!I very close an wonderful work colleague from 25 years ago has died. Funeral in Sydney next Thursday.
Try to book flights> (Ballina to Sydney return)
Going is fine on Wednesday. Sensible hour – $97 with bags. $57 without bags.
Return of Friday – Sensible hour – $908. yep. $908. Cheapest all that day? $368.
1hr 15min flight each way.
Bugger me fuglied!!!
Do you mean Coolangatta or are you hanging off a cessna wing actually from Ballina?
All three (Virgin, Jetstar, Qantas) fly in/out of Ballina.
Might try Coolangatta. It’s just another hour up the freeway.
Woodie said:
Well bugger me fuglied.!!!!I very close an wonderful work colleague from 25 years ago has died. Funeral in Sydney next Thursday.
Try to book flights> (Ballina to Sydney return)
Going is fine on Wednesday. Sensible hour – $97 with bags. $57 without bags.
Return of Friday – Sensible hour – $908. yep. $908. Cheapest all that day? $368.
1hr 15min flight each way.
Bugger me fuglied!!!
Heck!
Woodie said:
Might try Coolangatta. It’s just another hour up the freeway.
That’s even worse!!
Again, goin is OK. $120 there but coming back?
Cheapest all day? $494.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:Might try Coolangatta. It’s just another hour up the freeway.
That’s even worse!!
Again, goin is OK. $120 there but coming back?
Cheapest all day? $494.
Out of Ballina (return) is $150 cheaper than I can get out of Coolangatta.
I’m not gunna try Brisbane. It’s a 3 1/2 hr drive.
ooooooo what about the train???
Woodie said:
Woodie said:Might try Coolangatta. It’s just another hour up the freeway.
That’s even worse!!
Again, goin is OK. $120 there but coming back?
Cheapest all day? $494.
Maybe you could just buy a “going” ticket to get there, and then sneakily buy another “going” ticket to get back. Or something.
Woodie said:
ooooooo what about the train???
“Road coaches will replace Sydney-Brisbane XPT services between 17-28 September, and Brisbane-Sydney XPT services between 18-29 September.”
Fuck that. Not sittin’ in a bus for 13 hours. Even though it’s only $60 each way.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:ooooooo what about the train???
“Road coaches will replace Sydney-Brisbane XPT services between 17-28 September, and Brisbane-Sydney XPT services between 18-29 September.”
Fuck that. Not sittin’ in a bus for 13 hours. Even though it’s only $60 each way.
Busses are pretty good these days, and usually have free internet to keep you entertained.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:ooooooo what about the train???
“Road coaches will replace Sydney-Brisbane XPT services between 17-28 September, and Brisbane-Sydney XPT services between 18-29 September.”
Fuck that. Not sittin’ in a bus for 13 hours. Even though it’s only $60 each way.
It’s 1500kms return drive. About 8 hrs each way. @10kms per litre in the Golden Girl that 150 litres. Bout $300 in petrol.
$465 to fly. But gotta get to Ballina (90 mins drive each ) plus long term carpark fees. (~$70)
What would Jesus do?
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:ooooooo what about the train???
“Road coaches will replace Sydney-Brisbane XPT services between 17-28 September, and Brisbane-Sydney XPT services between 18-29 September.”
Fuck that. Not sittin’ in a bus for 13 hours. Even though it’s only $60 each way.
It’s 1500kms return drive. About 8 hrs each way. @10kms per litre in the Golden Girl that 150 litres. Bout $300 in petrol.
$465 to fly. But gotta get to Ballina (90 mins drive each ) plus long term carpark fees. (~$70)
What would Jesus do?
walk. or take a donkey.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:ooooooo what about the train???
“Road coaches will replace Sydney-Brisbane XPT services between 17-28 September, and Brisbane-Sydney XPT services between 18-29 September.”
Fuck that. Not sittin’ in a bus for 13 hours. Even though it’s only $60 each way.
It’s 1500kms return drive. About 8 hrs each way. @10kms per litre in the Golden Girl that 150 litres. Bout $300 in petrol.
$465 to fly. But gotta get to Ballina (90 mins drive each ) plus long term carpark fees. (~$70)
What would Jesus do?
Walk…
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:ooooooo what about the train???
“Road coaches will replace Sydney-Brisbane XPT services between 17-28 September, and Brisbane-Sydney XPT services between 18-29 September.”
Fuck that. Not sittin’ in a bus for 13 hours. Even though it’s only $60 each way.
Busses are pretty good these days, and usually have free internet to keep you entertained.
Ungodly hours, and return is overnight. No eating/drinking/smoking and no indication of free internet when clicking “onboard facilities”.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:“Road coaches will replace Sydney-Brisbane XPT services between 17-28 September, and Brisbane-Sydney XPT services between 18-29 September.”
Fuck that. Not sittin’ in a bus for 13 hours. Even though it’s only $60 each way.
Busses are pretty good these days, and usually have free internet to keep you entertained.
Ungodly hours, and return is overnight. No eating/drinking/smoking and no indication of free internet when clicking “onboard facilities”.
Bugger. I bussed from here to Brisbane a couple of times, and the hours were good ad there was free internet.
No durries would be a bit of a bother for you.
furious said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:“Road coaches will replace Sydney-Brisbane XPT services between 17-28 September, and Brisbane-Sydney XPT services between 18-29 September.”
Fuck that. Not sittin’ in a bus for 13 hours. Even though it’s only $60 each way.
It’s 1500kms return drive. About 8 hrs each way. @10kms per litre in the Golden Girl that 150 litres. Bout $300 in petrol.
$465 to fly. But gotta get to Ballina (90 mins drive each ) plus long term carpark fees. (~$70)
What would Jesus do?
Walk…
The train is about $50 return
JudgeMental said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:“Road coaches will replace Sydney-Brisbane XPT services between 17-28 September, and Brisbane-Sydney XPT services between 18-29 September.”
Fuck that. Not sittin’ in a bus for 13 hours. Even though it’s only $60 each way.
It’s 1500kms return drive. About 8 hrs each way. @10kms per litre in the Golden Girl that 150 litres. Bout $300 in petrol.
$465 to fly. But gotta get to Ballina (90 mins drive each ) plus long term carpark fees. (~$70)
What would Jesus do?
walk. or take a donkey.
Google Assistant on the phone doesn’t tell me how long a donkey would take. I thought this AI bizzo was supposed to tell you anything and everything.
JudgeMental said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:“Road coaches will replace Sydney-Brisbane XPT services between 17-28 September, and Brisbane-Sydney XPT services between 18-29 September.”
Fuck that. Not sittin’ in a bus for 13 hours. Even though it’s only $60 each way.
It’s 1500kms return drive. About 8 hrs each way. @10kms per litre in the Golden Girl that 150 litres. Bout $300 in petrol.
$465 to fly. But gotta get to Ballina (90 mins drive each ) plus long term carpark fees. (~$70)
What would Jesus do?
walk. or take a donkey.
Google Assistant on the phone doesn’t tell me how long a donkey would take. I thought this AI bizzo was supposed to tell you anything and everything.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Busses are pretty good these days, and usually have free internet to keep you entertained.
Ungodly hours, and return is overnight. No eating/drinking/smoking and no indication of free internet when clicking “onboard facilities”.
Bugger. I bussed from here to Brisbane a couple of times, and the hours were good ad there was free internet.
No durries would be a bit of a bother for you.
Yeah. The Golden Girl is a smoking chariot.
Woodie said:
JudgeMental said:
Woodie said:It’s 1500kms return drive. About 8 hrs each way. @10kms per litre in the Golden Girl that 150 litres. Bout $300 in petrol.
$465 to fly. But gotta get to Ballina (90 mins drive each ) plus long term carpark fees. (~$70)
What would Jesus do?
walk. or take a donkey.
Google Assistant on the phone doesn’t tell me how long a donkey would take. I thought this AI bizzo was supposed to tell you anything and everything.
Tamb said:
furious said:
Woodie said:It’s 1500kms return drive. About 8 hrs each way. @10kms per litre in the Golden Girl that 150 litres. Bout $300 in petrol.
$465 to fly. But gotta get to Ballina (90 mins drive each ) plus long term carpark fees. (~$70)
What would Jesus do?
Walk…
The train is about $50 return
I’m not an OAP yet. That’s in 2 weeks.
Woodie said:
Tamb said:
furious said:Walk…
The train is about $50 return
I’m not an OAP yet. That’s in 2 weeks.
Tamb said:
Woodie said:
Tamb said:The train is about $50 return
I’m not an OAP yet. That’s in 2 weeks.
Oh bugger.
Anyway….. the train isn’t running for a 2 week period. It’s replacement buses.
Woodie said:
Tamb said:
Woodie said:I’m not an OAP yet. That’s in 2 weeks.
Oh bugger.Anyway….. the train isn’t running for a 2 week period. It’s replacement buses.
Woodie said:
JudgeMental said:
Woodie said:It’s 1500kms return drive. About 8 hrs each way. @10kms per litre in the Golden Girl that 150 litres. Bout $300 in petrol.
$465 to fly. But gotta get to Ballina (90 mins drive each ) plus long term carpark fees. (~$70)
What would Jesus do?
walk. or take a donkey.
Google Assistant on the phone doesn’t tell me how long a donkey would take. I thought this AI bizzo was supposed to tell you anything and everything.
try the oracle of delphi.
Just hand the airline this special pass:

Bubblecar said:
Just hand the airline this special pass:
Woodie said:
Tamb said:
Woodie said:I’m not an OAP yet. That’s in 2 weeks.
Oh bugger.Anyway….. the train isn’t running for a 2 week period. It’s replacement buses.
Looks like you might have to make your apologies, and get someone to convey them to everyone there.
Bubblecar said:
Just hand the airline this special pass:
Taa for that. I’ll print off a hundred of them and hand them out at the airport.😁
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Just hand the airline this special pass:
Does that mean that Albo is the B half?
Woodie is entitled to use it on any flight from hereon in, up or under.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Just hand the airline this special pass:
Does that mean that Albo is the B half?
Woodie is entitled to use it on any flight from hereon in, up or under.
Heron Island 
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Just hand the airline this special pass:
Does that mean that Albo is the B half?
Woodie is entitled to use it on any flight from hereon in, up or under.
First class?
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:Does that mean that Albo is the B half?
Woodie is entitled to use it on any flight from hereon in, up or under.
First class?
Last class.
https://www.smh.com.au/traveller/inspiration/last-class-airlines-introduce-new-flight-class-for-thats-more-budget-than-economy-20151216-gloj91.html
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:Does that mean that Albo is the B half?
Woodie is entitled to use it on any flight from hereon in, up or under.
First class?
Of course.
The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.
I’s back, chainsawed a tidy load of very solid logs, with my perfectly sharpened chainsaw, that doesn’t care about the worn out cutter bar
unload that shortly, after a nice cup of tea
and it is a nice cup of tea, lady’s good work
Home is the hunter, home from the hill.
Before I got my pocket knife I used to carry a razor blade in my back pocket. It was very useful, but I didn’t really look after it, so it got quite dirty. One day I cut myself on it as I sat down; because of the uncleanliness, the cut got quite infected. It was terrible: I nearly died of arse-nick poisoning.
btm said:
Before I got my pocket knife I used to carry a razor blade in my back pocket. It was very useful, but I didn’t really look after it, so it got quite dirty. One day I cut myself on it as I sat down; because of the uncleanliness, the cut got quite infected. It was terrible: I nearly died of arse-nick poisoning.
Lead, plumbum, something something…
btm said:
Before I got my pocket knife I used to carry a razor blade in my back pocket. It was very useful, but I didn’t really look after it, so it got quite dirty. One day I cut myself on it as I sat down; because of the uncleanliness, the cut got quite infected. It was terrible: I nearly died of arse-nick poisoning.
You had to reach for that one.
btm said:
Before I got my pocket knife I used to carry a razor blade in my back pocket. It was very useful, but I didn’t really look after it, so it got quite dirty. One day I cut myself on it as I sat down; because of the uncleanliness, the cut got quite infected. It was terrible: I nearly died of arse-nick poisoning.
Snort.
:)
SCIENCE said:
btm said:
Before I got my pocket knife I used to carry a razor blade in my back pocket. It was very useful, but I didn’t really look after it, so it got quite dirty. One day I cut myself on it as I sat down; because of the uncleanliness, the cut got quite infected. It was terrible: I nearly died of arse-nick poisoning.
Lead, plumbum, something something…
Dearie me
dv said:
SCIENCE said:btm said:
Before I got my pocket knife I used to carry a razor blade in my back pocket. It was very useful, but I didn’t really look after it, so it got quite dirty. One day I cut myself on it as I sat down; because of the uncleanliness, the cut got quite infected. It was terrible: I nearly died of arse-nick poisoning.
Lead, plumbum, something something…
Dearie me
exactly, and this is why we have that famous forum saying.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:Lead, plumbum, something something…
Dearie me
exactly, and this is why we have that famous forum saying.
I’m not sure that option even makes things better, it just gives us a single target of blame



Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Woodie is entitled to use it on any flight from hereon in, up or under.
First class?
Of course.
Our goal should be a world without classes
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:First class?
Of course.
Our goal should be a world without classes
That’s what i used to tell them at school when they caught me dodging the Economics class.
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
First class?
Of course.
Our goal should be a world without classes
spoken like a true teacher
Nearly 138,000 beds are being recalled after reports of them breaking or collapsing during use
NEW YORK (AP) — Nearly 138,000 platform beds sold at major retailers including Amazon and Walmart are being recalled across the U.S. and Canada because they can collapse, posing fall and injury risks.
Utah-based importer CVB Inc. is recalling the Lucid-branded platform beds with upholstered square tufted headboards. According to Thursday notices from the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and Health Canada, the beds can sag, break or collapse during use.
To date, there have been 245 incidents of this occurring in the U.S., resulting in 18 related injuries such as contusions and bruises, the CPSC said. An additional 11 reports of “bed failures” have been reported in Canada, with no further injuries.
https://apnews.com/article/bed-recall-lucid-fall-injuries-cpsc-7cb837e8c011586c4f2dd526f9fd2e0f
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:First class?
Of course.
Our goal should be a world without classes
won’t somebody think of the children!?
Bubblecar said:
Nearly 138,000 beds are being recalled after reports of them breaking or collapsing during use
NEW YORK (AP) — Nearly 138,000 platform beds sold at major retailers including Amazon and Walmart are being recalled across the U.S. and Canada because they can collapse, posing fall and injury risks.
Utah-based importer CVB Inc. is recalling the Lucid-branded platform beds with upholstered square tufted headboards. According to Thursday notices from the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and Health Canada, the beds can sag, break or collapse during use.
To date, there have been 245 incidents of this occurring in the U.S., resulting in 18 related injuries such as contusions and bruises, the CPSC said. An additional 11 reports of “bed failures” have been reported in Canada, with no further injuries.
https://apnews.com/article/bed-recall-lucid-fall-injuries-cpsc-7cb837e8c011586c4f2dd526f9fd2e0f
damn these Israelis are really infiltrating all kinds of supply chains
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
Nearly 138,000 beds are being recalled after reports of them breaking or collapsing during use
NEW YORK (AP) — Nearly 138,000 platform beds sold at major retailers including Amazon and Walmart are being recalled across the U.S. and Canada because they can collapse, posing fall and injury risks.
Utah-based importer CVB Inc. is recalling the Lucid-branded platform beds with upholstered square tufted headboards. According to Thursday notices from the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and Health Canada, the beds can sag, break or collapse during use.
To date, there have been 245 incidents of this occurring in the U.S., resulting in 18 related injuries such as contusions and bruises, the CPSC said. An additional 11 reports of “bed failures” have been reported in Canada, with no further injuries.
https://apnews.com/article/bed-recall-lucid-fall-injuries-cpsc-7cb837e8c011586c4f2dd526f9fd2e0f
damn these Israelis are really infiltrating all kinds of supply chains
I wonder what kind of coding goes into the signal ‘All Beds Break Right Now!’ ?
Bubblecar said:
Nearly 138,000 beds are being recalled after reports of them breaking or collapsing during useNEW YORK (AP) — Nearly 138,000 platform beds sold at major retailers including Amazon and Walmart are being recalled across the U.S. and Canada because they can collapse, posing fall and injury risks.
Utah-based importer CVB Inc. is recalling the Lucid-branded platform beds with upholstered square tufted headboards. According to Thursday notices from the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and Health Canada, the beds can sag, break or collapse during use.
To date, there have been 245 incidents of this occurring in the U.S., resulting in 18 related injuries such as contusions and bruises, the CPSC said. An additional 11 reports of “bed failures” have been reported in Canada, with no further injuries.
https://apnews.com/article/bed-recall-lucid-fall-injuries-cpsc-7cb837e8c011586c4f2dd526f9fd2e0f
One could wonder if it is all related to the obesity epidemic in the US, hey what but.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:Bubblecar said:
Nearly 138,000 beds are being recalled after reports of them breaking or collapsing during use
NEW YORK (AP) — Nearly 138,000 platform beds sold at major retailers including Amazon and Walmart are being recalled across the U.S. and Canada because they can collapse, posing fall and injury risks.
Utah-based importer CVB Inc. is recalling the Lucid-branded platform beds with upholstered square tufted headboards. According to Thursday notices from the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and Health Canada, the beds can sag, break or collapse during use.
To date, there have been 245 incidents of this occurring in the U.S., resulting in 18 related injuries such as contusions and bruises, the CPSC said. An additional 11 reports of “bed failures” have been reported in Canada, with no further injuries.
https://apnews.com/article/bed-recall-lucid-fall-injuries-cpsc-7cb837e8c011586c4f2dd526f9fd2e0f
damn these Israelis are really infiltrating all kinds of supply chains
I wonder what kind of coding goes into the signal ‘All Beds Break Right Now!’ ?
“If we get these beds made in China cheaper, instead of the US, we can sell them for the same amount, and give ourselves a pay rise.”
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:First class?
Of course.
Our goal should be a world without classes
I’m sure it’s perfectly fine for the allocaation of aircraft seating.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:Of course.
Our goal should be a world without classes
I’m sure it’s perfectly fine for the allocaation of aircraft seating.
Yes. Specially on an Airbus A380, where you’ve got upper class and lower class.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:Our goal should be a world without classes
I’m sure it’s perfectly fine for the allocaation of aircraft seating.
Yes. Specially on an Airbus A380, where you’ve got upper class and lower class.
Mind you, the real upper class have private jets.
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:I’m sure it’s perfectly fine for the allocaation of aircraft seating.
Yes. Specially on an Airbus A380, where you’ve got upper class and lower class.
Mind you, the real upper class have private jets.
The working class can kiss my arse.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:Yes. Specially on an Airbus A380, where you’ve got upper class and lower class.
Mind you, the real upper class have private jets.
The working class can kiss my arse.
you might get Covid or flu or something liuke that
CAR’N SWANNIES!!! 🦢🦢🦢🦢🦢🦢
Win this one, and it’s off to the Grand Final!!! 😁
Woodie said:
CAR’N SWANNIES!!! 🦢🦢🦢🦢🦢🦢Win this one, and it’s off to the Grand Final!!! 😁
Yeah… I’m on the Swannies for this game against Part Adelaide.
I’m the Brions bandwagon tomorrow and for the GF (if they get there). If the Cats win tomorrow then I hope the Swannies smash them in the GF.
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
CAR’N SWANNIES!!! 🦢🦢🦢🦢🦢🦢Win this one, and it’s off to the Grand Final!!! 😁
Yeah… I’m on the Swannies for this game against Part Adelaide.
I’m the Brions bandwagon tomorrow and for the GF (if they get there). If the Cats win tomorrow then I hope the Swannies smash them in the GF.
If I recall rightly, the Swannies were in the GF-before-last but they were hopeless.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:Of course.
Our goal should be a world without classes
I’m sure it’s perfectly fine for the allocaation of aircraft seating.
RangerJudy 2h
September 20: Lady spent the night beside the nestlings on the nest, leaving very early. Dad was off early too & seen down in Yaralla Bay. Currawongs started swooping early. Dad was seen at the gull boats, & brought in a young gull at 7:49. Lady claimed it quickly & fed both nestlings. Young ones are standing more & backing up to the rim to poop. Lady was on the nest by the youngsters around 9am, the wind has picked up again. Later they spent time alone in the sun, at times flapping what seemed to be too close to the edge. Lady was up high above the nest. She brought leaves around 1:45, & a swooping currawong. An hour later, both eagles were there above the nest, until he brought more leaves in. He was off again around 3pm returning with a fish just before 4pm. For the first time, SE33 grabbed the fish & mantled over it, preventing Lady from taking it – then self-feeding for a while. Lady did take over feeding 33 for a while. Later Dad brought another fish, & Lady fed SE33 more, with SE34 standing back a bit. Then 34 had the chance to self-feed as well. A big day for both.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:Our goal should be a world without classes
I’m sure it’s perfectly fine for the allocaation of aircraft seating.
No. It’s not
i disagree.
The golden rule of logistics; weight and volume are always finite, for any given means of transport. You want to take up more, you pay more.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:Our goal should be a world without classes
I’m sure it’s perfectly fine for the allocaation of aircraft seating.
No. It’s not
What process would you use to ensure planes are filled to capacity?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:I’m sure it’s perfectly fine for the allocaation of aircraft seating.
No. It’s notWhat process would you use to ensure planes are filled to capacity?
mince the passengers?
anyhow, it’s a long weekend out here, and I shouldn’t be so grumpy on a Friday night.
Happy FNDC !
party_pants said:
anyhow, it’s a long weekend out here, and I shouldn’t be so grumpy on a Friday night.Happy FNDC !
Ditto.
We have a burn tomorrow, and two burn site inspections. Plus a bunch of admin bullshit in the late arvo.
Sunday is family visit day, and Monday is machinery repair day. My older bobcat blew a hydraulic hose this arvo, and I need it on Wednesday. Plus several items to repair on the truck, which I need on Tuesday morning.
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
anyhow, it’s a long weekend out here, and I shouldn’t be so grumpy on a Friday night.Happy FNDC !
Ditto.
We have a burn tomorrow, and two burn site inspections. Plus a bunch of admin bullshit in the late arvo.
Sunday is family visit day, and Monday is machinery repair day. My older bobcat blew a hydraulic hose this arvo, and I need it on Wednesday. Plus several items to repair on the truck, which I need on Tuesday morning.
I have a list of small repairs/upkeep on the house to do, whoch i have been putting off.
Also in the middle of refinancing the house, the borker has promised me a whole bunch of form to print out and sign.
Going to add a bit more on the loan to get some aircon installed. I need to do some research into what is the nest option. Refrigde or swampy; split system or ducted; whole house or just the living area… etc. The physical layout of the house is another restricting factor. Even a wall mounted system in one of the windows might be an option.
2024 PT5 is a near-Earth object roughly 11 meters (36 ft) in diameter discovered by ATLAS South Africa, Sutherland on August 7, 2024, the day before approaching Earth at 568,500 km (353,200 mi). The object orbits the Sun but makes slow close approaches to the Earth–Moon system. Between 29 September 2024 and 25 November 2024 (a period of 1 month and 27 days) it will pass just outside Earth’s Hill sphere (roughly 0.01 AU ) at a low relative velocity (in the range 0.002 km/s (4.5 mph) – 0.439 km/s ) and will become temporarily captured by Earth’s gravity, with a geocentric orbital eccentricity of less than 1 and negative geocentric orbital energy. The closest approach to Earth in 2025 will be 9 January 2025 at roughly 1,800,000 km (1,100,000 mi) when it will have a relative velocity of 1.03 km/s (2,300 mph). The last time it was so close to Earth was around 11 February 2003 when it passed about 8,584,500 km (5,334,200 mi) from Earth.
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
anyhow, it’s a long weekend out here, and I shouldn’t be so grumpy on a Friday night.Happy FNDC !
Ditto.
We have a burn tomorrow, and two burn site inspections. Plus a bunch of admin bullshit in the late arvo.
Sunday is family visit day, and Monday is machinery repair day. My older bobcat blew a hydraulic hose this arvo, and I need it on Wednesday. Plus several items to repair on the truck, which I need on Tuesday morning.I have a list of small repairs/upkeep on the house to do, whoch i have been putting off.
Also in the middle of refinancing the house, the borker has promised me a whole bunch of form to print out and sign.
Going to add a bit more on the loan to get some aircon installed. I need to do some research into what is the nest option. Refrigde or swampy; split system or ducted; whole house or just the living area… etc. The physical layout of the house is another restricting factor. Even a wall mounted system in one of the windows might be an option.
I got a living room splitty and some solar panels, the panels pay for the splitty so air con & heating is almost free.
The panels were from a company that pays for them(solargrid), and you pay them off while saving on your normal power bill.
party_pants said:
anyhow, it’s a long weekend out here, and I shouldn’t be so grumpy on a Friday night.Happy FNDC !
Cheers. Dry one this end. I’ll have some drinks on the Grand Final weekend.
I have a north-facing living room window and a big sliding door opening out onto the courtyard.
Is it worth considering double-glazing on the north-facing glass?
party_pants said:
I have a north-facing living room window and a big sliding door opening out onto the courtyard.Is it worth considering double-glazing on the north-facing glass?
Yeah. I have the same problem and the infrared camera shows the heat loss/gain. I’ve been going to put a verandah/patio out there to block the summer sun but haven’t had time.Yet.
party_pants said:
I have a north-facing living room window and a big sliding door opening out onto the courtyard.Is it worth considering double-glazing on the north-facing glass?
Friends up the road got it on their windows and sliding doors and reckon it has made a lot of difference.
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
anyhow, it’s a long weekend out here, and I shouldn’t be so grumpy on a Friday night.Happy FNDC !
Ditto.
We have a burn tomorrow, and two burn site inspections. Plus a bunch of admin bullshit in the late arvo.
Sunday is family visit day, and Monday is machinery repair day. My older bobcat blew a hydraulic hose this arvo, and I need it on Wednesday. Plus several items to repair on the truck, which I need on Tuesday morning.I have a list of small repairs/upkeep on the house to do, whoch i have been putting off.
Also in the middle of refinancing the house, the borker has promised me a whole bunch of form to print out and sign.
Going to add a bit more on the loan to get some aircon installed. I need to do some research into what is the nest option. Refrigde or swampy; split system or ducted; whole house or just the living area… etc. The physical layout of the house is another restricting factor. Even a wall mounted system in one of the windows might be an option.
split unit refrigerated. Inverter tech. efficient and reasonable cost to run.
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
I have a north-facing living room window and a big sliding door opening out onto the courtyard.Is it worth considering double-glazing on the north-facing glass?
Friends up the road got it on their windows and sliding doors and reckon it has made a lot of difference.
Friends? You?
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
I have a north-facing living room window and a big sliding door opening out onto the courtyard.Is it worth considering double-glazing on the north-facing glass?
Friends up the road got it on their windows and sliding doors and reckon it has made a lot of difference.
Friends? You?
OK, so it is a one sided friendship!
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:Friends up the road got it on their windows and sliding doors and reckon it has made a lot of difference.
Friends? You?
OK, so it is a one sided friendship!
I see you looking through your windows but you don’t see me…
YAYAYAYAYAY FOR SWANNIES!!!!! ❤️🤍❤️🤍❤️🤍
It’s off to the Grand Final!!!! WOO HOO!!
Easy win for the Swannies tonight 95 – 59.
Woodie will be happy.
party_pants said:
Easy win for the Swannies tonight 95 – 59.Woodie will be happy.
Geelong v Swans, how boring (yeah I dont rate the lions chances), but, begrudgingly, I will go swans…
furious said:
party_pants said:
Easy win for the Swannies tonight 95 – 59.Woodie will be happy.
Geelong v Swans, how boring (yeah I dont rate the lions chances), but, begrudgingly, I will go swans…
Still hoping for a BLions win tomorra
party_pants said:
furious said:
party_pants said:
Easy win for the Swannies tonight 95 – 59.Woodie will be happy.
Geelong v Swans, how boring (yeah I dont rate the lions chances), but, begrudgingly, I will go swans…
Still hoping for a BLions win tomorra
It’d be good, can’t see it happening though…
Texans call Texas the “Lone Star State”.
They still haven’t realised it’s a rating given by visitors.
Kingy said:
Texans call Texas the “Lone Star State”.They still haven’t realised it’s a rating given by visitors.
Lol
I’m stealing that :)
Kingy said:
Texans call Texas the “Lone Star State”.They still haven’t realised it’s a rating given by visitors.
Oh, stop it…
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees at the back door, overcast and still. Hopefully we won’t do the gusting into the 60s today that happened yesterday afternoon. Equinox, hey! We are forecast 14 degrees with showers.
Breakfast with my bushwandering friend this morning. Then I will be Bioblitzing most of the day. I intend to photograph plants in our local cemetery and at 4 roadside spots I’ve been watching. Then the photographs have to be sorted, cropped etc and uploaded to iNaturalist and from there automatically to the Bioblitz project.
https://www.ghcma.vic.gov.au/glenelg-hopkins-bioblitz/
Morning.
2.5 degrees. Heading for 20. Nothing but acres of marring.
furious said:
Kingy said:Texans call Texas the “Lone Star State”.They still haven’t realised it’s a rating given by visitors.
Oh, stop it…
It is perfectly cromulent.
Are you still here buffy? Could you possibly please tell me what this means?
Findings are as follows:
Un-aided VA RE 6/6 LE 6/6 BE 6/6
OCT imaging showed resolved, right eye macula oedema.
RE trauma in his 35’s but no RD but all good after (maybe commotio ratinea?)
Morning pilgrims, what news?
roughbarked said:
Are you still here buffy? Could you possibly please tell me what this means?
Findings are as follows:
Un-aided VA RE 6/6 LE 6/6 BE 6/6
OCT imaging showed resolved, right eye macula oedema.
RE trauma in his 35’s but no RD but all good after (maybe commotio ratinea?)
Your distance vision without glasses is 6/6 (what the Yanks call 20/20, which just shows they test in feet and we test in metres). Considered normal vision. Some people do better than 6/6 but not all that many. 6/12 (with both eyes open) is the required level for car driving in Victoria. 6/12 means you can see at 6m what a 6/6 person can see at 12 m.
The scan says the bit of fluid in your right eye (after the surgery?) has gone away.
You told them you had something happen to your right eye in your “35’s” (?) but there is no sign of any damage from that.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Are you still here buffy? Could you possibly please tell me what this means?
Findings are as follows:
Un-aided VA RE 6/6 LE 6/6 BE 6/6
OCT imaging showed resolved, right eye macula oedema.
RE trauma in his 35’s but no RD but all good after (maybe commotio ratinea?)
Your distance vision without glasses is 6/6 (what the Yanks call 20/20, which just shows they test in feet and we test in metres). Considered normal vision. Some people do better than 6/6 but not all that many. 6/12 (with both eyes open) is the required level for car driving in Victoria. 6/12 means you can see at 6m what a 6/6 person can see at 12 m.
The scan says the bit of fluid in your right eye (after the surgery?) has gone away.
You told them you had something happen to your right eye in your “35’s” (?) but there is no sign of any damage from that.
Cricket ball and had suspected detatched retina which had healed up by the months later that the OPSM appointment happened.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Are you still here buffy? Could you possibly please tell me what this means?
Findings are as follows:
Un-aided VA RE 6/6 LE 6/6 BE 6/6
OCT imaging showed resolved, right eye macula oedema.
RE trauma in his 35’s but no RD but all good after (maybe commotio ratinea?)
Your distance vision without glasses is 6/6 (what the Yanks call 20/20, which just shows they test in feet and we test in metres). Considered normal vision. Some people do better than 6/6 but not all that many. 6/12 (with both eyes open) is the required level for car driving in Victoria. 6/12 means you can see at 6m what a 6/6 person can see at 12 m.
The scan says the bit of fluid in your right eye (after the surgery?) has gone away.
You told them you had something happen to your right eye in your “35’s” (?) but there is no sign of any damage from that.
Cricket ball and had suspected detatched retina which had healed up by the months later that the OPSM appointment happened.
There’s no mention of what type of Macular odeama.
At a guess it could be:
1. Age-related macular degeneration (AMD). In a certain type of AMD called wet (or neovascular) AMD, abnormal blood vessels in the macula leak fluid into or under the retina, which can cause swelling in the macula.
or
2. Eye surgery. Some people develop macular edema after having surgery to treat another eye condition, like cataracts. This swelling is often mild, but it’s still important to get treatment right away to help prevent future vision loss.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:Your distance vision without glasses is 6/6 (what the Yanks call 20/20, which just shows they test in feet and we test in metres). Considered normal vision. Some people do better than 6/6 but not all that many. 6/12 (with both eyes open) is the required level for car driving in Victoria. 6/12 means you can see at 6m what a 6/6 person can see at 12 m.
The scan says the bit of fluid in your right eye (after the surgery?) has gone away.
You told them you had something happen to your right eye in your “35’s” (?) but there is no sign of any damage from that.
Cricket ball and had suspected detatched retina which had healed up by the months later that the OPSM appointment happened.
There’s no mention of what type of Macular odeama.
At a guess it could be:
1. Age-related macular degeneration (AMD). In a certain type of AMD called wet (or neovascular) AMD, abnormal blood vessels in the macula leak fluid into or under the retina, which can cause swelling in the macula.or
2. Eye surgery. Some people develop macular edema after having surgery to treat another eye condition, like cataracts. This swelling is often mild, but it’s still important to get treatment right away to help prevent future vision loss.
Well if it happened after the cataract surgery and it’s gone away…
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Cricket ball and had suspected detatched retina which had healed up by the months later that the OPSM appointment happened.
There’s no mention of what type of Macular odeama.
At a guess it could be:
1. Age-related macular degeneration (AMD). In a certain type of AMD called wet (or neovascular) AMD, abnormal blood vessels in the macula leak fluid into or under the retina, which can cause swelling in the macula.or
2. Eye surgery. Some people develop macular edema after having surgery to treat another eye condition, like cataracts. This swelling is often mild, but it’s still important to get treatment right away to help prevent future vision loss.
Well if it happened after the cataract surgery and it’s gone away…
The macula damage is slight, according to the optometrist who examined me yesterday.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:There’s no mention of what type of Macular odeama.
At a guess it could be:
1. Age-related macular degeneration (AMD). In a certain type of AMD called wet (or neovascular) AMD, abnormal blood vessels in the macula leak fluid into or under the retina, which can cause swelling in the macula.or
2. Eye surgery. Some people develop macular edema after having surgery to treat another eye condition, like cataracts. This swelling is often mild, but it’s still important to get treatment right away to help prevent future vision loss.
Well if it happened after the cataract surgery and it’s gone away…
The macula damage is slight, according to the optometrist who examined me yesterday.
and thanks. :)
I’m off to breakfast.
buffy said:
I’m off to breakfast.
Just had mine.
Two fried eggs on toast, 3 sausages, fried tomato.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
I’m off to breakfast.
Just had mine.
Two fried eggs on toast, 3 sausages, fried tomato.
I had 3 weetbix 1 piece of toast with vegemite and 1 piece of toast with peanut past one it and a cuppa.
Over.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
I’m off to breakfast.
Just had mine.
Two fried eggs on toast, 3 sausages, fried tomato.
Gosh! That’s what I call a Very Big Breakfast. We would have either one fried egg on toast with fried tomato, or one sausage with fried tomato. Never multiples, and never together. Often I have no breakfast at all, as my appetite often doesn’t start until after noon.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
I’m off to breakfast.
Just had mine.
Two fried eggs on toast, 3 sausages, fried tomato.
I had 3 weetbix 1 piece of toast with vegemite and 1 piece of toast with peanut past one it and a cuppa.
Over.
Nothing here. I’ll have lunch after 12, having had nothing to eat since about 7 yesterday evening, so it’s a 17 hour fast this time.
Minimum allowed is 16 hours fast per 24 hours.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:Just had mine.
Two fried eggs on toast, 3 sausages, fried tomato.
I had 3 weetbix 1 piece of toast with vegemite and 1 piece of toast with peanut past one it and a cuppa.
Over.
Nothing here. I’ll have lunch after 12, having had nothing to eat since about 7 yesterday evening, so it’s a 17 hour fast this time.
Minimum allowed is 16 hours fast per 24 hours.
I had a pear after I’d had my medication and coffee.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:I had 3 weetbix 1 piece of toast with vegemite and 1 piece of toast with peanut past one it and a cuppa.
Over.
Nothing here. I’ll have lunch after 12, having had nothing to eat since about 7 yesterday evening, so it’s a 17 hour fast this time.
Minimum allowed is 16 hours fast per 24 hours.
I had a pear after I’d had my medication and coffee.
Thanks for reminding me, haven’t had my morning meds yet (1 x Metformin, half a Metoprolol, 1 x aspirin).
The most interesting news piece I read this morning: How picky females and sexual selection made the natural world more beautiful
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:Nothing here. I’ll have lunch after 12, having had nothing to eat since about 7 yesterday evening, so it’s a 17 hour fast this time.
Minimum allowed is 16 hours fast per 24 hours.
I had a pear after I’d had my medication and coffee.
Thanks for reminding me, haven’t had my morning meds yet (1 x Metformin, half a Metoprolol, 1 x aspirin).
Mine: pregablin norflex and prexum. and a new one MDeyes.
Some of my work regenerating denuded land.

Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, what news?
I was up couple times lastnight stoking the fires, few light showers gone through hardly worth mentioning but is keeping evaporation rate down (another shower right now as writing) anyways about 5:30am this morn while up decides have go at fixing laptop has multiple problems, eventually did a special file scan requires command prompt, stole the idea and details off the internet for that, last entry said mbam(malwarebytes) has a corrupted file, looked further of other peoples suggestions regard that and indicated remove the program, so did that and all Win updates loaded without trouble and no rolling back like previous
if I was a smarter person, a different person, not me, I might have seen a hint in what I was doing that pointed to the trouble, I was pressing F8 and turning security off that starts with boot to get past the blue screen
anyways that is all good, I then went on the try fixing the graphics, computer doesn’t seem to see the AMD graphics, or has reverted to simple drivers, loaded some graphics drivers, still not fixed is a work in progress
while heading out the door, sun not yet up but about to, going to bed I was I sees couple small birds fly past the door into nearby cedar tree, was couple striated pardalotes, got bunch pictures them, so win there, like pardalote they cool bird

transition said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, what news?
I was up couple times lastnight stoking the fires, few light showers gone through hardly worth mentioning but is keeping evaporation rate down (another shower right now as writing) anyways about 5:30am this morn while up decides have go at fixing laptop has multiple problems, eventually did a special file scan requires command prompt, stole the idea and details off the internet for that, last entry said mbam(malwarebytes) has a corrupted file, looked further of other peoples suggestions regard that and indicated remove the program, so did that and all Win updates loaded without trouble and no rolling back like previous
if I was a smarter person, a different person, not me, I might have seen a hint in what I was doing that pointed to the trouble, I was pressing F8 and turning security off that starts with boot to get past the blue screen
anyways that is all good, I then went on the try fixing the graphics, computer doesn’t seem to see the AMD graphics, or has reverted to simple drivers, loaded some graphics drivers, still not fixed is a work in progress
while heading out the door, sun not yet up but about to, going to bed I was I sees couple small birds fly past the door into nearby cedar tree, was couple striated pardalotes, got bunch pictures them, so win there, like pardalote they cool bird
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Cool indeed.
Baking some sourdough ryebread.
+ housework and orange juicing and repairing some outdoor plumbiing. Bringing in the washing so that some marring can be done.
After that, well there’s always more to do.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, what news?
I was up couple times lastnight stoking the fires, few light showers gone through hardly worth mentioning but is keeping evaporation rate down (another shower right now as writing) anyways about 5:30am this morn while up decides have go at fixing laptop has multiple problems, eventually did a special file scan requires command prompt, stole the idea and details off the internet for that, last entry said mbam(malwarebytes) has a corrupted file, looked further of other peoples suggestions regard that and indicated remove the program, so did that and all Win updates loaded without trouble and no rolling back like previous
if I was a smarter person, a different person, not me, I might have seen a hint in what I was doing that pointed to the trouble, I was pressing F8 and turning security off that starts with boot to get past the blue screen
anyways that is all good, I then went on the try fixing the graphics, computer doesn’t seem to see the AMD graphics, or has reverted to simple drivers, loaded some graphics drivers, still not fixed is a work in progress
while heading out the door, sun not yet up but about to, going to bed I was I sees couple small birds fly past the door into nearby cedar tree, was couple striated pardalotes, got bunch pictures them, so win there, like pardalote they cool bird
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Cool indeed.
The trouble with pardalotes is you need a lot of them to make a meal.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:I was up couple times lastnight stoking the fires, few light showers gone through hardly worth mentioning but is keeping evaporation rate down (another shower right now as writing) anyways about 5:30am this morn while up decides have go at fixing laptop has multiple problems, eventually did a special file scan requires command prompt, stole the idea and details off the internet for that, last entry said mbam(malwarebytes) has a corrupted file, looked further of other peoples suggestions regard that and indicated remove the program, so did that and all Win updates loaded without trouble and no rolling back like previous
if I was a smarter person, a different person, not me, I might have seen a hint in what I was doing that pointed to the trouble, I was pressing F8 and turning security off that starts with boot to get past the blue screen
anyways that is all good, I then went on the try fixing the graphics, computer doesn’t seem to see the AMD graphics, or has reverted to simple drivers, loaded some graphics drivers, still not fixed is a work in progress
while heading out the door, sun not yet up but about to, going to bed I was I sees couple small birds fly past the door into nearby cedar tree, was couple striated pardalotes, got bunch pictures them, so win there, like pardalote they cool bird
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Cool indeed.
The trouble with pardalotes is you need a lot of them to make a meal.
Siimilar with sparrows or quail. Indeed I believe the French also caught thrushes.
roughbarked said:
Baking some sourdough ryebread.
+ housework and orange juicing and repairing some outdoor plumbiing. Bringing in the washing so that some marring can be done.After that, well there’s always more to do.
I’m about to have a post-lunch cup of tea, then will probably paint some dirty models* in the art room.
*railway toys
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Baking some sourdough ryebread.
+ housework and orange juicing and repairing some outdoor plumbiing. Bringing in the washing so that some marring can be done.After that, well there’s always more to do.
I’m about to have a post-lunch cup of tea, then will probably paint some dirty models* in the art room.
*railway toys
If dirty, perhaps a good clean will improve the paint finish?
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Baking some sourdough ryebread.
+ housework and orange juicing and repairing some outdoor plumbiing. Bringing in the washing so that some marring can be done.After that, well there’s always more to do.
I’m about to have a post-lunch cup of tea, then will probably paint some dirty models* in the art room.
*railway toys
If dirty, perhaps a good clean will improve the paint finish?
I’m making them dirty, not cleaning them.
Today I’ll continue dirtying this little Peckett 0-4-0, then do further work on the GW van seen in the lower snap.


Back at it again. A recently bereaved widow has asked for help to clean up some burn piles on her property. Good practice for the crews.


roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:Cool indeed.
The trouble with pardalotes is you need a lot of them to make a meal.
Siimilar with sparrows or quail. Indeed I believe the French also caught thrushes.
Yeah, but you can get antifungal medications now.
Kingy said:
Back at it again. A recently bereaved widow has asked for help to clean up some burn piles on her property. Good practice for the crews.
Good samaritans.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:The trouble with pardalotes is you need a lot of them to make a meal.
Siimilar with sparrows or quail. Indeed I believe the French also caught thrushes.
Yeah, but you can get antifungal medications now.
Have got to be careful with antibiotics along those lines.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:The trouble with pardalotes is you need a lot of them to make a meal.
Siimilar with sparrows or quail. Indeed I believe the French also caught thrushes.
Yeah, but you can get antifungal medications now.
:)
sun’s out again
some color

cup of tea and snacks I reckons
Kingy said:
Back at it again. A recently bereaved widow has asked for help to clean up some burn piles on her property. Good practice for the crews.
someone be rocking in the corner banging their head on the wall, mumbling incoherently
looks out back loungeroom window
Oh look……. there’s an echidna waddling across the back yard!!
I’m back. But I’ve got 165 photos to crop/name/upload to iNaturalist. I may be some time.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:I’m about to have a post-lunch cup of tea, then will probably paint some dirty models* in the art room.
*railway toys
If dirty, perhaps a good clean will improve the paint finish?
I’m making them dirty, not cleaning them.
Today I’ll continue dirtying this little Peckett 0-4-0, then do further work on the GW van seen in the lower snap.
TOOT!!
Woodie said:
looks out back loungeroom windowOh look……. there’s an echidna waddling across the back yard!!
Should take a snap for the Critters thread.
Kingy said:
Back at it again. A recently bereaved widow has asked for help to clean up some burn piles on her property. Good practice for the crews.
Good practice at setting fire to stuff, or good practice at putting them out?😁
buffy said:
I’m back. But I’ve got 165 photos to crop/name/upload to iNaturalist. I may be some time.
Good effort.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:If dirty, perhaps a good clean will improve the paint finish?
I’m making them dirty, not cleaning them.
Today I’ll continue dirtying this little Peckett 0-4-0, then do further work on the GW van seen in the lower snap.
TOOT!!
I’d better get in there and on with it. Also about time I dirtied those white-wall wheels on this M wagon.

Woodie said:
looks out back loungeroom windowOh look……. there’s an echidna waddling across the back yard!!
Nice!
:)
Woodie said:
Kingy said:
Back at it again. A recently bereaved widow has asked for help to clean up some burn piles on her property. Good practice for the crews.
Good practice at setting fire to stuff, or good practice at putting them out?😁
Both, plus radios, navigation, appliance operation, area familiarisation, crew leadership, etc.
buffy said:
I’m back. But I’ve got 165 photos to crop/name/upload to iNaturalist. I may be some time.
Good golly, Ms Buffy!! Keep that up, and you’ll have filled up the internet in no time!!
Woodie said:
Kingy said:
Back at it again. A recently bereaved widow has asked for help to clean up some burn piles on her property. Good practice for the crews.
Good practice at setting fire to stuff, or good practice at putting them out?😁
Kingy said:
Woodie said:
Kingy said:
Back at it again. A recently bereaved widow has asked for help to clean up some burn piles on her property. Good practice for the crews.
Good practice at setting fire to stuff, or good practice at putting them out?😁
Both, plus radios, navigation, appliance operation, area familiarisation, crew leadership, etc.
Tamb said:
Kingy said:
Woodie said:Good practice at setting fire to stuff, or good practice at putting them out?😁
Both, plus radios, navigation, appliance operation, area familiarisation, crew leadership, etc.
One of the etcs is situational awareness.
Sounds like you’re taking all the fun out of having a good bonfire.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
Kingy said:Both, plus radios, navigation, appliance operation, area familiarisation, crew leadership, etc.
One of the etcs is situational awareness.Sounds like you’re taking all the fun out of having a good bonfire.
Actually, situational awareness, is ALL the fun of a bonfire and that’s a true and interesting factoid.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:One of the etcs is situational awareness.
Sounds like you’re taking all the fun out of having a good bonfire.
Actually, situational awareness, is ALL the fun of a bonfire and that’s a true and interesting factoid.
Zen, and the art of a good bonfire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9ZorBieeG0
sarahs mum said:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9ZorBieeG0
Ta, looks good.

That was a great game of footy.
Looks like it’s a Swannies V Brissie Grand Final, hey what but.
Apparently, the GF is called “The Big Dance” these days.
party_pants said:
That was a great game of footy.
I nodded off after half time until the phone just rang.
Woodie said:
Looks like it’s a Swannies V Brissie Grand Final, hey what but.Apparently, the GF is called “The Big Dance” these days.
I’ll get some drinks and nibbles in for the occasion.
Woodie said:
Looks like it’s a Swannies V Brissie Grand Final, hey what but.Apparently, the GF is called “The Big Dance” these days.
Yes, should be a good one.
Just got home, it was a big day out.
I handed control over to 1st Lt, and went into town to have a meeting with one of the churches about doing a burn there, then went to another church for the same reason, surprisingly I didn’t burst into flames at either. Then returned to the hazard reduction burn.
Just as we were beginning to black out, we got a fire call. I left first, as the three appliances were out of water and had to refill, and on the way to the new incident we went past a cop car. I was busy driving and listening on the radio when my phone rang. I handed it to Ms Kingy while I got to the incident and set up a control point. The phone call was the police, asking why I had reds & blues on my private vehicle, and demanding that they be removed. Unbeknown to me, Ms Kingy dealt with that while I sorted out the fire, and then she told me what the call was about.
Shortly after the new fire was dealt with, and we had returned to the original burnoff, the Deputy Chief rang asking about the new incident, which I explained, and then I told him about the call from Mr Plod. Apparently there is a grey area regarding reds&blues on private vehicles. You can use them at the incident, but not on the way to an incident.
Long story short, I may be getting a visit from plod soon.
Happy SNDC.
Kingy said:
Just got home, it was a big day out.I handed control over to 1st Lt, and went into town to have a meeting with one of the churches about doing a burn there, then went to another church for the same reason, surprisingly I didn’t burst into flames at either. Then returned to the hazard reduction burn.
Just as we were beginning to black out, we got a fire call. I left first, as the three appliances were out of water and had to refill, and on the way to the new incident we went past a cop car. I was busy driving and listening on the radio when my phone rang. I handed it to Ms Kingy while I got to the incident and set up a control point. The phone call was the police, asking why I had reds & blues on my private vehicle, and demanding that they be removed. Unbeknown to me, Ms Kingy dealt with that while I sorted out the fire, and then she told me what the call was about.
Shortly after the new fire was dealt with, and we had returned to the original burnoff, the Deputy Chief rang asking about the new incident, which I explained, and then I told him about the call from Mr Plod. Apparently there is a grey area regarding reds&blues on private vehicles. You can use them at the incident, but not on the way to an incident.
Long story short, I may be getting a visit from plod soon.
Happy SNDC.
Damn. Did they tell Mrs Kingy there was likely to be further action taken?
Kingy said:
Just got home, it was a big day out.I handed control over to 1st Lt, and went into town to have a meeting with one of the churches about doing a burn there, then went to another church for the same reason, surprisingly I didn’t burst into flames at either. Then returned to the hazard reduction burn.
Just as we were beginning to black out, we got a fire call. I left first, as the three appliances were out of water and had to refill, and on the way to the new incident we went past a cop car. I was busy driving and listening on the radio when my phone rang. I handed it to Ms Kingy while I got to the incident and set up a control point. The phone call was the police, asking why I had reds & blues on my private vehicle, and demanding that they be removed. Unbeknown to me, Ms Kingy dealt with that while I sorted out the fire, and then she told me what the call was about.
Shortly after the new fire was dealt with, and we had returned to the original burnoff, the Deputy Chief rang asking about the new incident, which I explained, and then I told him about the call from Mr Plod. Apparently there is a grey area regarding reds&blues on private vehicles. You can use them at the incident, but not on the way to an incident.
Long story short, I may be getting a visit from plod soon.
Happy SNDC.
Sounds like Mr. Plod is not happy.
hello!
monkey skipper said:
hello!
Evening monkey. Had a decent Saturn’s Day?
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
Just got home, it was a big day out.I handed control over to 1st Lt, and went into town to have a meeting with one of the churches about doing a burn there, then went to another church for the same reason, surprisingly I didn’t burst into flames at either. Then returned to the hazard reduction burn.
Just as we were beginning to black out, we got a fire call. I left first, as the three appliances were out of water and had to refill, and on the way to the new incident we went past a cop car. I was busy driving and listening on the radio when my phone rang. I handed it to Ms Kingy while I got to the incident and set up a control point. The phone call was the police, asking why I had reds & blues on my private vehicle, and demanding that they be removed. Unbeknown to me, Ms Kingy dealt with that while I sorted out the fire, and then she told me what the call was about.
Shortly after the new fire was dealt with, and we had returned to the original burnoff, the Deputy Chief rang asking about the new incident, which I explained, and then I told him about the call from Mr Plod. Apparently there is a grey area regarding reds&blues on private vehicles. You can use them at the incident, but not on the way to an incident.
Long story short, I may be getting a visit from plod soon.
Happy SNDC.
Damn. Did they tell Mrs Kingy there was likely to be further action taken?
Not sure, but I’m not allowed to use blues on the way to an incident until this is all sorted.
Kingy said:
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
Just got home, it was a big day out.I handed control over to 1st Lt, and went into town to have a meeting with one of the churches about doing a burn there, then went to another church for the same reason, surprisingly I didn’t burst into flames at either. Then returned to the hazard reduction burn.
Just as we were beginning to black out, we got a fire call. I left first, as the three appliances were out of water and had to refill, and on the way to the new incident we went past a cop car. I was busy driving and listening on the radio when my phone rang. I handed it to Ms Kingy while I got to the incident and set up a control point. The phone call was the police, asking why I had reds & blues on my private vehicle, and demanding that they be removed. Unbeknown to me, Ms Kingy dealt with that while I sorted out the fire, and then she told me what the call was about.
Shortly after the new fire was dealt with, and we had returned to the original burnoff, the Deputy Chief rang asking about the new incident, which I explained, and then I told him about the call from Mr Plod. Apparently there is a grey area regarding reds&blues on private vehicles. You can use them at the incident, but not on the way to an incident.
Long story short, I may be getting a visit from plod soon.
Happy SNDC.
Damn. Did they tell Mrs Kingy there was likely to be further action taken?
Not sure, but I’m not allowed to use blues on the way to an incident until this is all sorted.
So does “private vehicle” here apply just to non-emergency vehicles?
Peak Warming Man said:
Kingy said:
Just got home, it was a big day out.I handed control over to 1st Lt, and went into town to have a meeting with one of the churches about doing a burn there, then went to another church for the same reason, surprisingly I didn’t burst into flames at either. Then returned to the hazard reduction burn.
Just as we were beginning to black out, we got a fire call. I left first, as the three appliances were out of water and had to refill, and on the way to the new incident we went past a cop car. I was busy driving and listening on the radio when my phone rang. I handed it to Ms Kingy while I got to the incident and set up a control point. The phone call was the police, asking why I had reds & blues on my private vehicle, and demanding that they be removed. Unbeknown to me, Ms Kingy dealt with that while I sorted out the fire, and then she told me what the call was about.
Shortly after the new fire was dealt with, and we had returned to the original burnoff, the Deputy Chief rang asking about the new incident, which I explained, and then I told him about the call from Mr Plod. Apparently there is a grey area regarding reds&blues on private vehicles. You can use them at the incident, but not on the way to an incident.
Long story short, I may be getting a visit from plod soon.
Happy SNDC.
Sounds like Mr. Plod is not happy.
He didn’t sound happy, but I only heard part of the conversation.
I’ll ask him if it’s ok when it’s HIS house on fire with his kids in it. That does tend to change the perspective.
Kingy said:
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
Just got home, it was a big day out.I handed control over to 1st Lt, and went into town to have a meeting with one of the churches about doing a burn there, then went to another church for the same reason, surprisingly I didn’t burst into flames at either. Then returned to the hazard reduction burn.
Just as we were beginning to black out, we got a fire call. I left first, as the three appliances were out of water and had to refill, and on the way to the new incident we went past a cop car. I was busy driving and listening on the radio when my phone rang. I handed it to Ms Kingy while I got to the incident and set up a control point. The phone call was the police, asking why I had reds & blues on my private vehicle, and demanding that they be removed. Unbeknown to me, Ms Kingy dealt with that while I sorted out the fire, and then she told me what the call was about.
Shortly after the new fire was dealt with, and we had returned to the original burnoff, the Deputy Chief rang asking about the new incident, which I explained, and then I told him about the call from Mr Plod. Apparently there is a grey area regarding reds&blues on private vehicles. You can use them at the incident, but not on the way to an incident.
Long story short, I may be getting a visit from plod soon.
Happy SNDC.
Damn. Did they tell Mrs Kingy there was likely to be further action taken?
Not sure, but I’m not allowed to use blues on the way to an incident until this is all sorted.
They’ll probably lock you up and throw away the key, Mr Kingy.
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
Bubblecar said:Damn. Did they tell Mrs Kingy there was likely to be further action taken?
Not sure, but I’m not allowed to use blues on the way to an incident until this is all sorted.
So does “private vehicle” here apply just to non-emergency vehicles?
Yes. My car has emergency vehicle markings on it, but I still own it, which makes it a private vehicle. I set it up as a control point with reds&blues and I have control over the incident area, but as a private vehicle, I apparently don’t have the authority to use blues on the way there in traffic.
It’s a grey area, which we have just discovered today.
Kingy said:
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:Not sure, but I’m not allowed to use blues on the way to an incident until this is all sorted.
So does “private vehicle” here apply just to non-emergency vehicles?
Yes. My car has emergency vehicle markings on it, but I still own it, which makes it a private vehicle. I set it up as a control point with reds&blues and I have control over the incident area, but as a private vehicle, I apparently don’t have the authority to use blues on the way there in traffic.
It’s a grey area, which we have just discovered today.
But you’re free to use reds? Sounds a bit petty.
Kingy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Kingy said:
Just got home, it was a big day out.I handed control over to 1st Lt, and went into town to have a meeting with one of the churches about doing a burn there, then went to another church for the same reason, surprisingly I didn’t burst into flames at either. Then returned to the hazard reduction burn.
Just as we were beginning to black out, we got a fire call. I left first, as the three appliances were out of water and had to refill, and on the way to the new incident we went past a cop car. I was busy driving and listening on the radio when my phone rang. I handed it to Ms Kingy while I got to the incident and set up a control point. The phone call was the police, asking why I had reds & blues on my private vehicle, and demanding that they be removed. Unbeknown to me, Ms Kingy dealt with that while I sorted out the fire, and then she told me what the call was about.
Shortly after the new fire was dealt with, and we had returned to the original burnoff, the Deputy Chief rang asking about the new incident, which I explained, and then I told him about the call from Mr Plod. Apparently there is a grey area regarding reds&blues on private vehicles. You can use them at the incident, but not on the way to an incident.
Long story short, I may be getting a visit from plod soon.
Happy SNDC.
Sounds like Mr. Plod is not happy.
He didn’t sound happy, but I only heard part of the conversation.
I’ll ask him if it’s ok when it’s HIS house on fire with his kids in it. That does tend to change the perspective.
Hehe
UK public washing their clothes too often, says major laundry brand
Ecover, backed by activist model Lily Cole, calls for fewer washes to reduce microplastics and other sources of water pollution
A company that sells cleaning products is giving customers some surprising advice: wash your clothes less.
Ecover is calling for a change in our laundry habits after research found people felt under societal pressure to wash their clothes more frequently, and were unaware that this could damage the environment.
The brand, in partnership with Falmouth University, is publishing a report this week into the impact of laundry on the environment. The researchers found that 18% of the 2,000 Britons interviewed for the report in August believed – wrongly – that washing less frequently would not affect the planet. One in 10 feel pressure to do laundry more frequently.
The report also found that 75% of participants in recent studies mentioned fear of judgment from others for wearing the same clothes multiple days in a row.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/sep/21/uk-public-washing-their-clothes-too-often-says-major-laundry-brand
Bubblecar said:
UK public washing their clothes too often, says major laundry brandEcover, backed by activist model Lily Cole, calls for fewer washes to reduce microplastics and other sources of water pollution
A company that sells cleaning products is giving customers some surprising advice: wash your clothes less.
Ecover is calling for a change in our laundry habits after research found people felt under societal pressure to wash their clothes more frequently, and were unaware that this could damage the environment.
The brand, in partnership with Falmouth University, is publishing a report this week into the impact of laundry on the environment. The researchers found that 18% of the 2,000 Britons interviewed for the report in August believed – wrongly – that washing less frequently would not affect the planet. One in 10 feel pressure to do laundry more frequently.
The report also found that 75% of participants in recent studies mentioned fear of judgment from others for wearing the same clothes multiple days in a row.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/sep/21/uk-public-washing-their-clothes-too-often-says-major-laundry-brand
I wash my village clothes a good deal less frequently than my round-the-house clothes.
That’s ‘cos I only wear them when I go out, and hang them up again as soon as I get back. Also, I hand-wash most of them.

sad brown food.
sarahs mum said:
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sad brown food.
Never mind, I’m sure you didn’t burn them like this lady.

Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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sad brown food.
Never mind, I’m sure you didn’t burn them like this lady.
might have had more flavour…
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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sad brown food.
Never mind, I’m sure you didn’t burn them like this lady.
might have had more flavour…
Some of their crumbed fish fillet range are on special at Coles, $4.10 off. I’ll probably get a box.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Never mind, I’m sure you didn’t burn them like this lady.
might have had more flavour…
Some of their crumbed fish fillet range are on special at Coles, $4.10 off. I’ll probably get a box.
…just noticed it’s only their 270gm ones, not terribly good value even with a discount.

Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:might have had more flavour…
Some of their crumbed fish fillet range are on special at Coles, $4.10 off. I’ll probably get a box.
…just noticed it’s only their 270gm ones, not terribly good value even with a discount.
i remember whole baked snapper fondly.
hmm not been able to fix graphics on the laptop, no brightness control no adjustment of any sort, whatever put brian to work again tomorrow on that, me and brian make a great team
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Some of their crumbed fish fillet range are on special at Coles, $4.10 off. I’ll probably get a box.
…just noticed it’s only their 270gm ones, not terribly good value even with a discount.
i remember whole baked snapper fondly.
Yeah. You’d think there’d be a lot more fish available locally given that this is a not-very-big island.
But from Coles and our local IGA it’s mostly farmed salmon, salmon, salmon.
transition said:
hmm not been able to fix graphics on the laptop, no brightness control no adjustment of any sort, whatever put brian to work again tomorrow on that, me and brian make a great team
Isn’t there a Display Settings when you right click on the desktop?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:…just noticed it’s only their 270gm ones, not terribly good value even with a discount.
i remember whole baked snapper fondly.
Yeah. You’d think there’d be a lot more fish available locally given that this is a not-very-big island.
But from Coles and our local IGA it’s mostly farmed salmon, salmon, salmon.
yeah.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
UK public washing their clothes too often, says major laundry brand
Ecover, backed by activist model Lily Cole, calls for fewer washes to reduce microplastics and other sources of water pollution
A company that sells cleaning products is giving customers some surprising advice: wash your clothes less.
Ecover is calling for a change in our laundry habits after research found people felt under societal pressure to wash their clothes more frequently, and were unaware that this could damage the environment.
The brand, in partnership with Falmouth University, is publishing a report this week into the impact of laundry on the environment. The researchers found that 18% of the 2,000 Britons interviewed for the report in August believed – wrongly – that washing less frequently would not affect the planet. One in 10 feel pressure to do laundry more frequently.
The report also found that 75% of participants in recent studies mentioned fear of judgment from others for wearing the same clothes multiple days in a row.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/sep/21/uk-public-washing-their-clothes-too-often-says-major-laundry-brand
I wash my village clothes a good deal less frequently than my round-the-house clothes.
That’s ‘cos I only wear them when I go out, and hang them up again as soon as I get back. Also, I hand-wash most of them.
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
UK public washing their clothes too often, says major laundry brand
Ecover, backed by activist model Lily Cole, calls for fewer washes to reduce microplastics and other sources of water pollution
A company that sells cleaning products is giving customers some surprising advice: wash your clothes less.
Ecover is calling for a change in our laundry habits after research found people felt under societal pressure to wash their clothes more frequently, and were unaware that this could damage the environment.
The brand, in partnership with Falmouth University, is publishing a report this week into the impact of laundry on the environment. The researchers found that 18% of the 2,000 Britons interviewed for the report in August believed – wrongly – that washing less frequently would not affect the planet. One in 10 feel pressure to do laundry more frequently.
The report also found that 75% of participants in recent studies mentioned fear of judgment from others for wearing the same clothes multiple days in a row.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/sep/21/uk-public-washing-their-clothes-too-often-says-major-laundry-brand
I wash my village clothes a good deal less frequently than my round-the-house clothes.
That’s ‘cos I only wear them when I go out, and hang them up again as soon as I get back. Also, I hand-wash most of them.
When I say “village clothes” I’m talking shirts, trousers, pullovers etc. Obviously I wash my underwear frequently.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/mutated-tribe-can-swim-to-bottom-of-ocean-after-developing-sea-nomad-gene/ar-AA1qTuUN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=fe46289a57894aca875af23e66b3706e&ei=24
Mutated tribe can swim to bottom of ocean after developing ‘sea nomad gene’
Story by Catherine Shuttleworth • 1d • 3 min read
The Bajau tribe of Indonesia have become the first known humans to genetically adapt to diving.
The tribe live an extremely amphibious life, and have now been proven to possess the genetic makeup to do so.
Living off the coasts of Indonesia for more than 1,000 years, the Bajau people live in houseboats, spending a high quantity of their lives in the sea.
As expected, they’re highly skilled when it comes to free diving and fishing with spears, as well as possessing extraordinary lung capacities and strong swimming capabilities.
Members of the tribe can dive up to 230 feet using just a set of weights and a pair of wooden goggles.
Speaking to the BBC, Melissa Ilardo, from Cambridge University, said, “they dive repeatedly for eight hours a day, spending about 60 percent of their time underwater.”
But it turns out that it’s not just their skills that help them achieve this, but also a unique genetic mutation – known as the ‘sea nomad gene’ – that also aids in their diving ability. They have extra large spleens.
The tribe that evolved to stay underwater longer – BBC REEL www.youtube.com
The spleen kicks in when a body is submerged in water, highlighting its key role in the human dive response. The spleen contracts to inject oxygenated red blood cells into the circulation – which can up the oxygen in a human’s blood by nine percent.
So it makes sense that by having a larger spleen, Bajau people have a genetic advantage when swimming underwater.
Dr. Ilardo said: “There’s not a lot of information out there about human spleens in terms of physiology and genetics, but we know that deep diving seals, like the Weddell seal, have disproportionately large spleens.
“We believe that in the Bajau they have an adaptation that increases thyroid hormone levels and therefore increases their spleen size.
“It’s been shown in mice that thyroid hormones and spleen size are connected. If you genetically alter mice to have an absence of the thyroid hormone T4, their spleen size is drastically reduced, but this effect is actually reversible with an injection of T4.”
It’s difficult to know exactly how long the Bajau people remain underwater, but some claim to have been under the sea for as long as 13 minutes.
Sadly, their lifestyles are currently under threat.
Their nomadic ways mean they can struggle to gain citizenship, plus commercial fishing has devastated their food supply.
Score: 20 / 50
Good Try.
If at first you don’t succeed, the refresh button will let you try again. Your score is 4% worse than average.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees at the back door, overcast. I heard some rain during the night. We are forecast 16 degrees with a shower or two.
Ham and salad wraps made, cordial made up, pack and cameras checked. Heading out to the covenant this morning for more Bioblitzing.
roughbarked said:
Sunday quizScore: 20 / 50
Good Try.If at first you don’t succeed, the refresh button will let you try again. Your score is 4% worse than average.
Same ‘ere.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Sunday quizScore: 20 / 50
Good Try.If at first you don’t succeed, the refresh button will let you try again. Your score is 4% worse than average.
Same ‘ere.
10/50. All but one were guesses. My guess method (ABCD in order) didn’t work very well.
Heading off shortly. There will be photos tonight, but it depends how long it takes for me to sort/crop/ID/label etc them.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Sunday quizScore: 20 / 50
Good Try.If at first you don’t succeed, the refresh button will let you try again. Your score is 4% worse than average.
Same ‘ere.
10/50. All but one were guesses. My guess method (ABCD in order) didn’t work very well.
Mine were all guesses as well. Even the Monty Python one, which I got wrong.
My guessing method is to not go for anything that seems like a reasonable answer, and possibly anything sufficiently ridiculous, then select at random if there are still two or three left.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Same ‘ere.
10/50. All but one were guesses. My guess method (ABCD in order) didn’t work very well.
Mine were all guesses as well. Even the Monty Python one, which I got wrong.
My guessing method is to not go for anything that seems like a reasonable answer, and possibly anything sufficiently ridiculous, then select at random if there are still two or three left.
Yeah. That Monty Python one was a shocker for me as well.
If anyone read the story about Vic Simms’ recording from jail in 1973, Here’s that album The Loner
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Same ‘ere.
10/50. All but one were guesses. My guess method (ABCD in order) didn’t work very well.
Mine were all guesses as well. Even the Monty Python one, which I got wrong.
My guessing method is to not go for anything that seems like a reasonable answer, and possibly anything sufficiently ridiculous, then select at random if there are still two or three left.
00/00.
I avoid that smarmy twat.
Ian said:
Good.
monkey skipper said:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/mutated-tribe-can-swim-to-bottom-of-ocean-after-developing-sea-nomad-gene/ar-AA1qTuUN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=fe46289a57894aca875af23e66b3706e&ei=24Mutated tribe can swim to bottom of ocean after developing ‘sea nomad gene’
Story by Catherine Shuttleworth • 1d • 3 min readThe Bajau tribe of Indonesia have become the first known humans to genetically adapt to diving.
The tribe live an extremely amphibious life, and have now been proven to possess the genetic makeup to do so.
Living off the coasts of Indonesia for more than 1,000 years, the Bajau people live in houseboats, spending a high quantity of their lives in the sea.
As expected, they’re highly skilled when it comes to free diving and fishing with spears, as well as possessing extraordinary lung capacities and strong swimming capabilities.
Members of the tribe can dive up to 230 feet using just a set of weights and a pair of wooden goggles.
Speaking to the BBC, Melissa Ilardo, from Cambridge University, said, “they dive repeatedly for eight hours a day, spending about 60 percent of their time underwater.”
But it turns out that it’s not just their skills that help them achieve this, but also a unique genetic mutation – known as the ‘sea nomad gene’ – that also aids in their diving ability. They have extra large spleens.
The tribe that evolved to stay underwater longer – BBC REEL www.youtube.com
The spleen kicks in when a body is submerged in water, highlighting its key role in the human dive response. The spleen contracts to inject oxygenated red blood cells into the circulation – which can up the oxygen in a human’s blood by nine percent.So it makes sense that by having a larger spleen, Bajau people have a genetic advantage when swimming underwater.
Dr. Ilardo said: “There’s not a lot of information out there about human spleens in terms of physiology and genetics, but we know that deep diving seals, like the Weddell seal, have disproportionately large spleens.
“We believe that in the Bajau they have an adaptation that increases thyroid hormone levels and therefore increases their spleen size.
“It’s been shown in mice that thyroid hormones and spleen size are connected. If you genetically alter mice to have an absence of the thyroid hormone T4, their spleen size is drastically reduced, but this effect is actually reversible with an injection of T4.”
It’s difficult to know exactly how long the Bajau people remain underwater, but some claim to have been under the sea for as long as 13 minutes.
Sadly, their lifestyles are currently under threat.
Their nomadic ways mean they can struggle to gain citizenship, plus commercial fishing has devastated their food supply.
Huh!
Thanks.
Morning pilgrims, a day of rest today.
Gees 96 thousand at Wembley stadium to see a fight that only lasted a few rounds, I hope there was a good undercard.
Happy equine ox
dv said:
Happy equine ox
Thank you.
.. and to you too.
dv said:
Happy equine ox
footy drunkards still going
Earth at the September 2022 equinox
NOAA’s GOES 16 satellite captured this satellite image of the September equinox.
This is when the Sun’s Zenith crosses over the equator southwards which means it is the beginning of Autumn (Fall) in the northern hemisphere and the beginning of Spring in the southern hemisphere. (Note: This image was taken about 1 hour after the official equinox).
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party_pants said:
dv said:
Happy equine ox
Thank you.
.. and to you too.
Making a horse and an ox hybridise?
Happy equinox. ;)
Bubblecar said:
Earth at the September 2022 equinoxNOAA’s GOES 16 satellite captured this satellite image of the September equinox.
This is when the Sun’s Zenith crosses over the equator southwards which means it is the beginning of Autumn (Fall) in the northern hemisphere and the beginning of Spring in the southern hemisphere. (Note: This image was taken about 1 hour after the official equinox).
It is a great shot.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Earth at the September 2022 equinoxNOAA’s GOES 16 satellite captured this satellite image of the September equinox.
This is when the Sun’s Zenith crosses over the equator southwards which means it is the beginning of Autumn (Fall) in the northern hemisphere and the beginning of Spring in the southern hemisphere. (Note: This image was taken about 1 hour after the official equinox).
It is a great shot.
dv said:
Happy equine ox
I’m glad they’re happy but are you talking about your horses or cattle.
Over.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Earth at the September 2022 equinox
NOAA’s GOES 16 satellite captured this satellite image of the September equinox.
This is when the Sun’s Zenith crosses over the equator southwards which means it is the beginning of Autumn (Fall) in the northern hemisphere and the beginning of Spring in the southern hemisphere. (Note: This image was taken about 1 hour after the official equinox).
It is a great shot.
Great Because It’s America ¡
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Earth at the September 2022 equinoxNOAA’s GOES 16 satellite captured this satellite image of the September equinox.
This is when the Sun’s Zenith crosses over the equator southwards which means it is the beginning of Autumn (Fall) in the northern hemisphere and the beginning of Spring in the southern hemisphere. (Note: This image was taken about 1 hour after the official equinox).
It is a great shot.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:It is a great shot.
That’s a nasty looking circular storm at about 1 o’clock.
They call them hurricanes.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-22/hard-quiz-weekly-trivia/104175332
25/50 in the Hard Quiz
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
That’s a nasty looking circular storm at about 1 o’clock.
They call them hurricanes.
that thing happened yesterday, taking photos, smell ants really strong, look down…(picture after brushed a lot off), fortunately have track pants under with socks over, rushed home undress, get ants out of clothing, they long way up too

transition said:
that thing happened yesterday, taking photos, smell ants really strong, look down…(picture after brushed a lot off), fortunately have track pants under with socks over, rushed home undress, get ants out of clothing, they long way up too
Oooh.
transition said:
that thing happened yesterday, taking photos, smell ants really strong, look down…(picture after brushed a lot off), fortunately have track pants under with socks over, rushed home undress, get ants out of clothing, they long way up too
Were they piss ants?
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-22/hard-quiz-weekly-trivia/10417533225/50 in the Hard Quiz
5/10 here.
Actor David Graham has died, aged 99.
He was most famous for his voice work. He voiced Parker in various Thunderbirds productions from 1965 to 2020, Grandpa Pig in Peppa Pig, and assorted things in Doctor Who. He did also have a couple of onscreen acting roles in DW, including Dr Kerensky in City of Death.
transition said:
that thing happened yesterday, taking photos, smell ants really strong, look down…(picture after brushed a lot off), fortunately have track pants under with socks over, rushed home undress, get ants out of clothing, they long way up too
And you could do with a drop of rain.
dv said:
Actor David Graham has died, aged 99.He was most famous for his voice work. He voiced Parker in various Thunderbirds productions from 1965 to 2020, Grandpa Pig in Peppa Pig, and assorted things in Doctor Who. He did also have a couple of onscreen acting roles in DW, including Dr Kerensky in City of Death.
“Will that be all, m’Lady?”
“Yes Parker. Ninety nine years is a splendid effort, thank you very much.”
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-22/hard-quiz-weekly-trivia/10417533225/50 in the Hard Quiz
35.
Much better than I usually do. Most weeks I get less than half of them right.
transition said:
that thing happened yesterday, taking photos, smell ants really strong, look down…(picture after brushed a lot off), fortunately have track pants under with socks over, rushed home undress, get ants out of clothing, they long way up too
Ants in your pants make you dance.
party_pants said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-22/hard-quiz-weekly-trivia/10417533225/50 in the Hard Quiz
35.
Much better than I usually do. Most weeks I get less than half of them right.
70%!
Well done.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-22/hard-quiz-weekly-trivia/10417533225/50 in the Hard Quiz
35.
Much better than I usually do. Most weeks I get less than half of them right.
70%!
Well done.
Way better than I did.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:35.
Much better than I usually do. Most weeks I get less than half of them right.
70%!
Well done.
Way better than I did.
I’m sure it’s just an outlier.
I’m back. But you won’t see me for a while, probably not until tomorrow afternoon. I’ve got 250 photos to assess/crop/label and upload to iNaturalist for the Bioblitz.
buffy said:
I’m back. But you won’t see me for a while, probably not until tomorrow afternoon. I’ve got 250 photos to assess/crop/label and upload to iNaturalist for the Bioblitz.
Roger.
buffy said:
I’m back. But you won’t see me for a while, probably not until tomorrow afternoon. I’ve got 250 photos to assess/crop/label and upload to iNaturalist for the Bioblitz.
Copy that.
buffy said:
I’m back. But you won’t see me for a while, probably not until tomorrow afternoon. I’ve got 250 photos to assess/crop/label and upload to iNaturalist for the Bioblitz.
She goin’ in! Goin’ dark for the duration of the mission. Wish her luck.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
I’m back. But you won’t see me for a while, probably not until tomorrow afternoon. I’ve got 250 photos to assess/crop/label and upload to iNaturalist for the Bioblitz.
She goin’ in! Goin’ dark for the duration of the mission. Wish her luck.
:)
Youtube just advertised this to me.
Why? Why is a product like this being advertised to random people watching Youtube videos?
and
Do you think it would be road legal in Aus?


I see that some Americans are still up and about.
BBC News:

Anyone here still in touch with kii?
If so, how is she doing?
The Cyprus mutiny took place on 14 August 1829 in Recherche Bay in Van Diemen’s Land (now Tasmania, Australia). Convicts seized the brig Cyprus and sailed her to Canton, China, where they scuttled her and claimed to be castaways from another vessel. On the way the visited Japan during the height of the period of severe Japanese restrictions on the entry of foreigners, the first ship from Australia to do so. The unofficial leader of this ship was William Swallow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnpwinrqJeQ
sarahs mum said:
The Cyprus mutiny took place on 14 August 1829 in Recherche Bay in Van Diemen’s Land (now Tasmania, Australia). Convicts seized the brig Cyprus and sailed her to Canton, China, where they scuttled her and claimed to be castaways from another vessel. On the way the visited Japan during the height of the period of severe Japanese restrictions on the entry of foreigners, the first ship from Australia to do so. The unofficial leader of this ship was William Swallow.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnpwinrqJeQ
there’s a movie in that story.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
The Cyprus mutiny took place on 14 August 1829 in Recherche Bay in Van Diemen’s Land (now Tasmania, Australia). Convicts seized the brig Cyprus and sailed her to Canton, China, where they scuttled her and claimed to be castaways from another vessel. On the way the visited Japan during the height of the period of severe Japanese restrictions on the entry of foreigners, the first ship from Australia to do so. The unofficial leader of this ship was William Swallow.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnpwinrqJeQ
there’s a movie in that story.
Rather grim one, I’d imagine. They don’t sound like a nice bunch of pirates.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
The Cyprus mutiny took place on 14 August 1829 in Recherche Bay in Van Diemen’s Land (now Tasmania, Australia). Convicts seized the brig Cyprus and sailed her to Canton, China, where they scuttled her and claimed to be castaways from another vessel. On the way the visited Japan during the height of the period of severe Japanese restrictions on the entry of foreigners, the first ship from Australia to do so. The unofficial leader of this ship was William Swallow.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnpwinrqJeQ
there’s a movie in that story.
But, they’d cast Leonardo di Caprio, or Ben Affleck, or someone like that in the lead role, and ‘tweak’ the story outrageously.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
The Cyprus mutiny took place on 14 August 1829 in Recherche Bay in Van Diemen’s Land (now Tasmania, Australia). Convicts seized the brig Cyprus and sailed her to Canton, China, where they scuttled her and claimed to be castaways from another vessel. On the way the visited Japan during the height of the period of severe Japanese restrictions on the entry of foreigners, the first ship from Australia to do so. The unofficial leader of this ship was William Swallow.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnpwinrqJeQ
there’s a movie in that story.
Rather grim one, I’d imagine. They don’t sound like a nice bunch of pirates.
They didn’t send the gold star students to Van Diemen’s Land, y’know.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:there’s a movie in that story.
Rather grim one, I’d imagine. They don’t sound like a nice bunch of pirates.
They didn’t send the gold star students to Van Diemen’s Land, y’know.
swallow was in the navy during the napoleonic war. seems like he was a damn good navigator.
I watched the adventures of jim bowie on youtube. It’s probably 50 years since i watched it. It might hold up better than some of the other similar shows.
I started singing the title song before it started. I was a full tone flat. But I remembered I did remember it well.
captain_spalding said:
Anyone here still in touch with kii?If so, how is she doing?
I’ve also been wondering how she is.
sarahs mum said:
I watched the adventures of jim bowie on youtube. It’s probably 50 years since i watched it. It might hold up better than some of the other similar shows.I started singing the title song before it started. I was a full tone flat. But I remembered I did remember it well.
Jim Bowie Jim Bowie. You brought that back.

I have been watching Anna cramling play chess in the olympiad. She’s playing okay. Her mum, Pia, is playing really well and might win a medal. Her father captains the team. He lurks. Sometimes he buries his face in his hands. he isn’t allowed to make eye contact with his team. He paces behind them.
I remembered giving up chess. I did like playing when I was a kid. I went out with a doctor when I was 20 and we played games that would last for days. the better I was playing, the longer the games were taking. One night after playing I woke up in a sweat and shaking. And then I decided chess was not worth it. Anna’s father brought it all back.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
I watched the adventures of jim bowie on youtube. It’s probably 50 years since i watched it. It might hold up better than some of the other similar shows.I started singing the title song before it started. I was a full tone flat. But I remembered I did remember it well.
Jim Bowie Jim Bowie. You brought that back.
He was a bold, adventuring man.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Anyone here still in touch with kii?If so, how is she doing?
I’ve also been wondering how she is.
Me too. I have been thinking it about lots. Perhaps I should see whether I am blocked. she gets angry with me that I keep talking to the people she has a problem with.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Anyone here still in touch with kii?If so, how is she doing?
I’ve also been wondering how she is.
Me too. I have been thinking it about lots. Perhaps I should see whether I am blocked. she gets angry with me that I keep talking to the people she has a problem with.
I wonder if the gummies are too strong too often. I’ve heard that because they taste like lollies, people can tend to OD.
Paranoia and all that.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Anyone here still in touch with kii?If so, how is she doing?
I’ve also been wondering how she is.
Me too. I have been thinking it about lots. Perhaps I should see whether I am blocked. she gets angry with me that I keep talking to the people she has a problem with.
Well, she’s an independent person. Surely she understands that you are, too, and she can’t dictate to you about who you talk with?
Anyway, i don’t believe that anyone here wishes her any real harm, and no-one would begrudge her a fortunate turn of circumstance.
A bit of relayed news from her, perhaps, and best wishes from most here, quite probably from all.
Wow, as ifthe Middle East is already dangerous enough.
ABC News:

captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:I’ve also been wondering how she is.
Me too. I have been thinking it about lots. Perhaps I should see whether I am blocked. she gets angry with me that I keep talking to the people she has a problem with.
Well, she’s an independent person. Surely she understands that you are, too, and she can’t dictate to you about who you talk with?
Anyway, i don’t believe that anyone here wishes her any real harm, and no-one would begrudge her a fortunate turn of circumstance.
A bit of relayed news from her, perhaps, and best wishes from most here, quite probably from all.
Agree.
captain_spalding said:
Wow, as ifthe Middle East is already dangerous enough.ABC News:
…isn’t already…
Well done the local sports team on winning their grand final :)
party_pants said:
Well done the local sports team on winning their grand final :)
There’ll be hot time at the local club tonight.

Where’s Lotte?? I want Lotte Kopecky!!!!
They’ve said it once, but haven’t said it again!!
🚴🚴🚴🚴🚴🚴
One of history’s biggest drivers is not what you might think
The horse has moulded empires, wars and human affairs profoundly
Sep 19th 2024
The Horse. By Timothy Winegard. Dutton; 544 pages; $35
Hoof Beats. By William Taylor. University of California Press; 360 pages; $28.95 and £25
Raiders, Rulers and Traders. By David Chaffetz. W.W. Norton; 448 pages; $32.50 and £25
There was nearly a world without horses. At the end of the last ice age warming temperatures turned the grasslands where horses roamed into swamps and forests. Humans hunted them heavily for meat. Wild horses did, in fact, go extinct in North America around 7,600-12,000 years ago. You could say that by stopping hunting and starting to domesticate and harness them, humans saved horses. Or you could say that horses decided to bet on people.
Humans were forever changed by their equine alliance. Able to gallop at more than 40mph (64kph) and to convey heavy objects, horses altered the arc of empires and determined victors and losers in battle. Timothy Winegard, a historian, calls horses “humanity’s longest-serving weapon system”. They also transformed the way people could hunt, communicate, trade and even dress. Trousers spread only after horses were domesticated, as an innovation for riding. The oldest surviving pairs, dating to 1300BC, belonged to horsemen.
A herd of new books has come out looking at the horse’s impact on human history, though their approaches are very different. David Chaffetz, a scholar of Asian history, focuses his deeply researched, elegantly written “Raiders, Rulers and Traders” on the interplay between horse-borne nomads and settled peoples, a defining aspect of Chinese, Indian and Persian civilisations. He argues that “What we now call the Silk Road should more accurately be called the Horse Road, for it was the horse, and not silk, that drew buyers and sellers together…to form the first large-scale international trading routes.”
The broadest and most accessible view comes from Mr Winegard. Ranging from horse anatomy to the role of horses in both world wars, his book is packed with fascinating detail. For example, by weight, Britain shipped more horse feed than ammunition to the western front in the first world war; 20 years later Hitler enlisted some 2.7m horses in the second. In contrast, “Hoof Beats” by William Taylor, an academic and curator at the University of Colorado Museum of Natural History, is based primarily on archaeology; unfortunately it reads like a competent textbook.
All three books consider how mastery of the horse empowered the people who first achieved it in the third millennium BC. Their homeland was the Pontic-Caspian steppe, the vast grasslands north of the Black and Caspian seas. Using horses for food, transport and warfare provided mobility and an edge over others. One result is that their language, Proto-Indo-European, forms the root of tongues spoken by 46% of people today, such as Bengali and Portuguese. Their genetic imprint stamps 40-50% of Europeans. Some 60-90% of men on the Indian subcontinent can trace patrilineal DNA back to these early horsemen.
Superior horses and horsemanship continued to determine sweeping population movements. By around 2000BC horses had trampled older civilisations across Europe and India, such as those that built Stonehenge in England and Mohenjodaro in the Indus Valley. Mastery of mounts brought the Huns into Europe (around 370AD), the Arabs into Spain (711AD) and the Turks into India (1020AD) and Anatolia (1071AD). Horses also spread the vast Mongol armies under Genghis Khan across nearly the whole of the Eurasian land mass, including China (around 1200AD).
In Europe feudalism and chivalry arrived on horseback, as did Napoleon’s troops. According to Mr Winegard, in the French army’s disastrous retreat from Moscow in 1812 it was the loss of 200,000 horses, which could not be quickly replaced, rather than of half a million soldiers who could, that sealed the emperor’s fate.
A look at the “biotechnology” of the horse explains its usefulness. In terms of power a horse packs more than ten times that of a human. (People still use “horsepower” as a way to quantify might.) Horses hardly need sleep, run fast for long stretches and have temperaments that make them easy to herd and train. Their teeth snip grass with front incisors and crush it with back molars, leaving a useful gap for a bit. Their milk has five times more vitamin C, and their flesh more protein, than cows’. Handy “hardware” like stirrups and saddles, as well as the innovation of hitching horses to wheeled vehicles (from around 2000BC), have given people more control.
Horses’ utility translated into muscular pricing. An ordinary mount in ancient Athens cost upwards of 500 drachmas, compared with 140 for an unskilled slave. In Brazil in the 17th century a fine steed could fetch as much as 20 slaves. It is only in the past 100 years, since the invention and spread of automobiles, that horses became less integral to human civilisation and people’s daily lives. However, as these books make clear, it would be unwise to put horses out to pasture in people’s memories. They deserve enduring respect, for their hoof beats changed the world.
https://www.economist.com/culture/2024/09/19/one-of-historys-biggest-drivers-is-not-what-you-might-think?
Witty Rejoinder said:
One of history’s biggest drivers is not what you might think
The horse has moulded empires, wars and human affairs profoundlySep 19th 2024
The Horse. By Timothy Winegard. Dutton; 544 pages; $35
Hoof Beats. By William Taylor. University of California Press; 360 pages; $28.95 and £25
Raiders, Rulers and Traders. By David Chaffetz. W.W. Norton; 448 pages; $32.50 and £25
There was nearly a world without horses. At the end of the last ice age warming temperatures turned the grasslands where horses roamed into swamps and forests. Humans hunted them heavily for meat. Wild horses did, in fact, go extinct in North America around 7,600-12,000 years ago. You could say that by stopping hunting and starting to domesticate and harness them, humans saved horses. Or you could say that horses decided to bet on people.
Humans were forever changed by their equine alliance. Able to gallop at more than 40mph (64kph) and to convey heavy objects, horses altered the arc of empires and determined victors and losers in battle. Timothy Winegard, a historian, calls horses “humanity’s longest-serving weapon system”. They also transformed the way people could hunt, communicate, trade and even dress. Trousers spread only after horses were domesticated, as an innovation for riding. The oldest surviving pairs, dating to 1300BC, belonged to horsemen.
A herd of new books has come out looking at the horse’s impact on human history, though their approaches are very different. David Chaffetz, a scholar of Asian history, focuses his deeply researched, elegantly written “Raiders, Rulers and Traders” on the interplay between horse-borne nomads and settled peoples, a defining aspect of Chinese, Indian and Persian civilisations. He argues that “What we now call the Silk Road should more accurately be called the Horse Road, for it was the horse, and not silk, that drew buyers and sellers together…to form the first large-scale international trading routes.”
The broadest and most accessible view comes from Mr Winegard. Ranging from horse anatomy to the role of horses in both world wars, his book is packed with fascinating detail. For example, by weight, Britain shipped more horse feed than ammunition to the western front in the first world war; 20 years later Hitler enlisted some 2.7m horses in the second. In contrast, “Hoof Beats” by William Taylor, an academic and curator at the University of Colorado Museum of Natural History, is based primarily on archaeology; unfortunately it reads like a competent textbook.
All three books consider how mastery of the horse empowered the people who first achieved it in the third millennium BC. Their homeland was the Pontic-Caspian steppe, the vast grasslands north of the Black and Caspian seas. Using horses for food, transport and warfare provided mobility and an edge over others. One result is that their language, Proto-Indo-European, forms the root of tongues spoken by 46% of people today, such as Bengali and Portuguese. Their genetic imprint stamps 40-50% of Europeans. Some 60-90% of men on the Indian subcontinent can trace patrilineal DNA back to these early horsemen.
Superior horses and horsemanship continued to determine sweeping population movements. By around 2000BC horses had trampled older civilisations across Europe and India, such as those that built Stonehenge in England and Mohenjodaro in the Indus Valley. Mastery of mounts brought the Huns into Europe (around 370AD), the Arabs into Spain (711AD) and the Turks into India (1020AD) and Anatolia (1071AD). Horses also spread the vast Mongol armies under Genghis Khan across nearly the whole of the Eurasian land mass, including China (around 1200AD).
In Europe feudalism and chivalry arrived on horseback, as did Napoleon’s troops. According to Mr Winegard, in the French army’s disastrous retreat from Moscow in 1812 it was the loss of 200,000 horses, which could not be quickly replaced, rather than of half a million soldiers who could, that sealed the emperor’s fate.
A look at the “biotechnology” of the horse explains its usefulness. In terms of power a horse packs more than ten times that of a human. (People still use “horsepower” as a way to quantify might.) Horses hardly need sleep, run fast for long stretches and have temperaments that make them easy to herd and train. Their teeth snip grass with front incisors and crush it with back molars, leaving a useful gap for a bit. Their milk has five times more vitamin C, and their flesh more protein, than cows’. Handy “hardware” like stirrups and saddles, as well as the innovation of hitching horses to wheeled vehicles (from around 2000BC), have given people more control.
Horses’ utility translated into muscular pricing. An ordinary mount in ancient Athens cost upwards of 500 drachmas, compared with 140 for an unskilled slave. In Brazil in the 17th century a fine steed could fetch as much as 20 slaves. It is only in the past 100 years, since the invention and spread of automobiles, that horses became less integral to human civilisation and people’s daily lives. However, as these books make clear, it would be unwise to put horses out to pasture in people’s memories. They deserve enduring respect, for their hoof beats changed the world.
https://www.economist.com/culture/2024/09/19/one-of-historys-biggest-drivers-is-not-what-you-might-think?
agriculture also a driver. I read somewhere that at one time there were 40k heavy horse in Tasmania.
Interrupting my 16 hour fast with a relaxing mug of cocoa.
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
One of history’s biggest drivers is not what you might think
The horse has moulded empires, wars and human affairs profoundlySep 19th 2024
The Horse. By Timothy Winegard. Dutton; 544 pages; $35
Hoof Beats. By William Taylor. University of California Press; 360 pages; $28.95 and £25
Raiders, Rulers and Traders. By David Chaffetz. W.W. Norton; 448 pages; $32.50 and £25
There was nearly a world without horses. At the end of the last ice age warming temperatures turned the grasslands where horses roamed into swamps and forests. Humans hunted them heavily for meat. Wild horses did, in fact, go extinct in North America around 7,600-12,000 years ago. You could say that by stopping hunting and starting to domesticate and harness them, humans saved horses. Or you could say that horses decided to bet on people.
Humans were forever changed by their equine alliance. Able to gallop at more than 40mph (64kph) and to convey heavy objects, horses altered the arc of empires and determined victors and losers in battle. Timothy Winegard, a historian, calls horses “humanity’s longest-serving weapon system”. They also transformed the way people could hunt, communicate, trade and even dress. Trousers spread only after horses were domesticated, as an innovation for riding. The oldest surviving pairs, dating to 1300BC, belonged to horsemen.
A herd of new books has come out looking at the horse’s impact on human history, though their approaches are very different. David Chaffetz, a scholar of Asian history, focuses his deeply researched, elegantly written “Raiders, Rulers and Traders” on the interplay between horse-borne nomads and settled peoples, a defining aspect of Chinese, Indian and Persian civilisations. He argues that “What we now call the Silk Road should more accurately be called the Horse Road, for it was the horse, and not silk, that drew buyers and sellers together…to form the first large-scale international trading routes.”
The broadest and most accessible view comes from Mr Winegard. Ranging from horse anatomy to the role of horses in both world wars, his book is packed with fascinating detail. For example, by weight, Britain shipped more horse feed than ammunition to the western front in the first world war; 20 years later Hitler enlisted some 2.7m horses in the second. In contrast, “Hoof Beats” by William Taylor, an academic and curator at the University of Colorado Museum of Natural History, is based primarily on archaeology; unfortunately it reads like a competent textbook.
All three books consider how mastery of the horse empowered the people who first achieved it in the third millennium BC. Their homeland was the Pontic-Caspian steppe, the vast grasslands north of the Black and Caspian seas. Using horses for food, transport and warfare provided mobility and an edge over others. One result is that their language, Proto-Indo-European, forms the root of tongues spoken by 46% of people today, such as Bengali and Portuguese. Their genetic imprint stamps 40-50% of Europeans. Some 60-90% of men on the Indian subcontinent can trace patrilineal DNA back to these early horsemen.
Superior horses and horsemanship continued to determine sweeping population movements. By around 2000BC horses had trampled older civilisations across Europe and India, such as those that built Stonehenge in England and Mohenjodaro in the Indus Valley. Mastery of mounts brought the Huns into Europe (around 370AD), the Arabs into Spain (711AD) and the Turks into India (1020AD) and Anatolia (1071AD). Horses also spread the vast Mongol armies under Genghis Khan across nearly the whole of the Eurasian land mass, including China (around 1200AD).
In Europe feudalism and chivalry arrived on horseback, as did Napoleon’s troops. According to Mr Winegard, in the French army’s disastrous retreat from Moscow in 1812 it was the loss of 200,000 horses, which could not be quickly replaced, rather than of half a million soldiers who could, that sealed the emperor’s fate.
A look at the “biotechnology” of the horse explains its usefulness. In terms of power a horse packs more than ten times that of a human. (People still use “horsepower” as a way to quantify might.) Horses hardly need sleep, run fast for long stretches and have temperaments that make them easy to herd and train. Their teeth snip grass with front incisors and crush it with back molars, leaving a useful gap for a bit. Their milk has five times more vitamin C, and their flesh more protein, than cows’. Handy “hardware” like stirrups and saddles, as well as the innovation of hitching horses to wheeled vehicles (from around 2000BC), have given people more control.
Horses’ utility translated into muscular pricing. An ordinary mount in ancient Athens cost upwards of 500 drachmas, compared with 140 for an unskilled slave. In Brazil in the 17th century a fine steed could fetch as much as 20 slaves. It is only in the past 100 years, since the invention and spread of automobiles, that horses became less integral to human civilisation and people’s daily lives. However, as these books make clear, it would be unwise to put horses out to pasture in people’s memories. They deserve enduring respect, for their hoof beats changed the world.
https://www.economist.com/culture/2024/09/19/one-of-historys-biggest-drivers-is-not-what-you-might-think?
agriculture also a driver. I read somewhere that at one time there were 40k heavy horse in Tasmania.
Bit strange to think there were more horses in human employ in the 20th century than ever before. And then it all changed very quickly.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
One of history’s biggest drivers is not what you might think
The horse has moulded empires, wars and human affairs profoundlySep 19th 2024
The Horse. By Timothy Winegard. Dutton; 544 pages; $35
Hoof Beats. By William Taylor. University of California Press; 360 pages; $28.95 and £25
Raiders, Rulers and Traders. By David Chaffetz. W.W. Norton; 448 pages; $32.50 and £25
There was nearly a world without horses. At the end of the last ice age warming temperatures turned the grasslands where horses roamed into swamps and forests. Humans hunted them heavily for meat. Wild horses did, in fact, go extinct in North America around 7,600-12,000 years ago. You could say that by stopping hunting and starting to domesticate and harness them, humans saved horses. Or you could say that horses decided to bet on people.
Humans were forever changed by their equine alliance. Able to gallop at more than 40mph (64kph) and to convey heavy objects, horses altered the arc of empires and determined victors and losers in battle. Timothy Winegard, a historian, calls horses “humanity’s longest-serving weapon system”. They also transformed the way people could hunt, communicate, trade and even dress. Trousers spread only after horses were domesticated, as an innovation for riding. The oldest surviving pairs, dating to 1300BC, belonged to horsemen.
A herd of new books has come out looking at the horse’s impact on human history, though their approaches are very different. David Chaffetz, a scholar of Asian history, focuses his deeply researched, elegantly written “Raiders, Rulers and Traders” on the interplay between horse-borne nomads and settled peoples, a defining aspect of Chinese, Indian and Persian civilisations. He argues that “What we now call the Silk Road should more accurately be called the Horse Road, for it was the horse, and not silk, that drew buyers and sellers together…to form the first large-scale international trading routes.”
The broadest and most accessible view comes from Mr Winegard. Ranging from horse anatomy to the role of horses in both world wars, his book is packed with fascinating detail. For example, by weight, Britain shipped more horse feed than ammunition to the western front in the first world war; 20 years later Hitler enlisted some 2.7m horses in the second. In contrast, “Hoof Beats” by William Taylor, an academic and curator at the University of Colorado Museum of Natural History, is based primarily on archaeology; unfortunately it reads like a competent textbook.
All three books consider how mastery of the horse empowered the people who first achieved it in the third millennium BC. Their homeland was the Pontic-Caspian steppe, the vast grasslands north of the Black and Caspian seas. Using horses for food, transport and warfare provided mobility and an edge over others. One result is that their language, Proto-Indo-European, forms the root of tongues spoken by 46% of people today, such as Bengali and Portuguese. Their genetic imprint stamps 40-50% of Europeans. Some 60-90% of men on the Indian subcontinent can trace patrilineal DNA back to these early horsemen.
Superior horses and horsemanship continued to determine sweeping population movements. By around 2000BC horses had trampled older civilisations across Europe and India, such as those that built Stonehenge in England and Mohenjodaro in the Indus Valley. Mastery of mounts brought the Huns into Europe (around 370AD), the Arabs into Spain (711AD) and the Turks into India (1020AD) and Anatolia (1071AD). Horses also spread the vast Mongol armies under Genghis Khan across nearly the whole of the Eurasian land mass, including China (around 1200AD).
In Europe feudalism and chivalry arrived on horseback, as did Napoleon’s troops. According to Mr Winegard, in the French army’s disastrous retreat from Moscow in 1812 it was the loss of 200,000 horses, which could not be quickly replaced, rather than of half a million soldiers who could, that sealed the emperor’s fate.
A look at the “biotechnology” of the horse explains its usefulness. In terms of power a horse packs more than ten times that of a human. (People still use “horsepower” as a way to quantify might.) Horses hardly need sleep, run fast for long stretches and have temperaments that make them easy to herd and train. Their teeth snip grass with front incisors and crush it with back molars, leaving a useful gap for a bit. Their milk has five times more vitamin C, and their flesh more protein, than cows’. Handy “hardware” like stirrups and saddles, as well as the innovation of hitching horses to wheeled vehicles (from around 2000BC), have given people more control.
Horses’ utility translated into muscular pricing. An ordinary mount in ancient Athens cost upwards of 500 drachmas, compared with 140 for an unskilled slave. In Brazil in the 17th century a fine steed could fetch as much as 20 slaves. It is only in the past 100 years, since the invention and spread of automobiles, that horses became less integral to human civilisation and people’s daily lives. However, as these books make clear, it would be unwise to put horses out to pasture in people’s memories. They deserve enduring respect, for their hoof beats changed the world.
agriculture also a driver. I read somewhere that at one time there were 40k heavy horse in Tasmania.
Bit strange to think there were more horses in human employ in the 20th century than ever before. And then it all changed very quickly.
only as strange as this proliferation in internal incomplete medium chain hydrocarbon liquid combustion engines first with poisonous heavy metal then without
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
agriculture also a driver. I read somewhere that at one time there were 40k heavy horse in Tasmania.
Bit strange to think there were more horses in human employ in the 20th century than ever before. And then it all changed very quickly.
only as strange as this proliferation in internal incomplete medium chain hydrocarbon liquid combustion engines first with poisonous heavy metal then without
OTOH motor vehicles with differing motors and fuel are still a good deal more alike than motor vehicles and horses.
Bubblecar said:
Interrupting my 16 hour fast with a relaxing mug of cocoa.
Hey, i had a cup of cocoa only about 20 mins ago!
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
One of history’s biggest drivers is not what you might think
The horse has moulded empires, wars and human affairs profoundlySep 19th 2024
The Horse. By Timothy Winegard. Dutton; 544 pages; $35
Hoof Beats. By William Taylor. University of California Press; 360 pages; $28.95 and £25
Raiders, Rulers and Traders. By David Chaffetz. W.W. Norton; 448 pages; $32.50 and £25
There was nearly a world without horses. At the end of the last ice age warming temperatures turned the grasslands where horses roamed into swamps and forests. Humans hunted them heavily for meat. Wild horses did, in fact, go extinct in North America around 7,600-12,000 years ago. You could say that by stopping hunting and starting to domesticate and harness them, humans saved horses. Or you could say that horses decided to bet on people.
Humans were forever changed by their equine alliance. Able to gallop at more than 40mph (64kph) and to convey heavy objects, horses altered the arc of empires and determined victors and losers in battle. Timothy Winegard, a historian, calls horses “humanity’s longest-serving weapon system”. They also transformed the way people could hunt, communicate, trade and even dress. Trousers spread only after horses were domesticated, as an innovation for riding. The oldest surviving pairs, dating to 1300BC, belonged to horsemen.
A herd of new books has come out looking at the horse’s impact on human history, though their approaches are very different. David Chaffetz, a scholar of Asian history, focuses his deeply researched, elegantly written “Raiders, Rulers and Traders” on the interplay between horse-borne nomads and settled peoples, a defining aspect of Chinese, Indian and Persian civilisations. He argues that “What we now call the Silk Road should more accurately be called the Horse Road, for it was the horse, and not silk, that drew buyers and sellers together…to form the first large-scale international trading routes.”
The broadest and most accessible view comes from Mr Winegard. Ranging from horse anatomy to the role of horses in both world wars, his book is packed with fascinating detail. For example, by weight, Britain shipped more horse feed than ammunition to the western front in the first world war; 20 years later Hitler enlisted some 2.7m horses in the second. In contrast, “Hoof Beats” by William Taylor, an academic and curator at the University of Colorado Museum of Natural History, is based primarily on archaeology; unfortunately it reads like a competent textbook.
All three books consider how mastery of the horse empowered the people who first achieved it in the third millennium BC. Their homeland was the Pontic-Caspian steppe, the vast grasslands north of the Black and Caspian seas. Using horses for food, transport and warfare provided mobility and an edge over others. One result is that their language, Proto-Indo-European, forms the root of tongues spoken by 46% of people today, such as Bengali and Portuguese. Their genetic imprint stamps 40-50% of Europeans. Some 60-90% of men on the Indian subcontinent can trace patrilineal DNA back to these early horsemen.
Superior horses and horsemanship continued to determine sweeping population movements. By around 2000BC horses had trampled older civilisations across Europe and India, such as those that built Stonehenge in England and Mohenjodaro in the Indus Valley. Mastery of mounts brought the Huns into Europe (around 370AD), the Arabs into Spain (711AD) and the Turks into India (1020AD) and Anatolia (1071AD). Horses also spread the vast Mongol armies under Genghis Khan across nearly the whole of the Eurasian land mass, including China (around 1200AD).
In Europe feudalism and chivalry arrived on horseback, as did Napoleon’s troops. According to Mr Winegard, in the French army’s disastrous retreat from Moscow in 1812 it was the loss of 200,000 horses, which could not be quickly replaced, rather than of half a million soldiers who could, that sealed the emperor’s fate.
A look at the “biotechnology” of the horse explains its usefulness. In terms of power a horse packs more than ten times that of a human. (People still use “horsepower” as a way to quantify might.) Horses hardly need sleep, run fast for long stretches and have temperaments that make them easy to herd and train. Their teeth snip grass with front incisors and crush it with back molars, leaving a useful gap for a bit. Their milk has five times more vitamin C, and their flesh more protein, than cows’. Handy “hardware” like stirrups and saddles, as well as the innovation of hitching horses to wheeled vehicles (from around 2000BC), have given people more control.
Horses’ utility translated into muscular pricing. An ordinary mount in ancient Athens cost upwards of 500 drachmas, compared with 140 for an unskilled slave. In Brazil in the 17th century a fine steed could fetch as much as 20 slaves. It is only in the past 100 years, since the invention and spread of automobiles, that horses became less integral to human civilisation and people’s daily lives. However, as these books make clear, it would be unwise to put horses out to pasture in people’s memories. They deserve enduring respect, for their hoof beats changed the world.
https://www.economist.com/culture/2024/09/19/one-of-historys-biggest-drivers-is-not-what-you-might-think?
agriculture also a driver. I read somewhere that at one time there were 40k heavy horse in Tasmania.
Bit strange to think there were more horses in human employ in the 20th century than ever before. And then it all changed very quickly.
working on a tramway in western tas would have been a shit life.
I was asked by a guy if I knew where they could find a toupee.
I replied, “Not off the top of my head”.
Kingy said:
I was asked by a guy if I knew where they could find a toupee.I replied, “Not off the top of my head”.
That’s one been doing the rounds, with illustrations.
Kingy said:
I was asked by a guy if I knew where they could find a toupee.I replied, “Not off the top of my head”.
You wouldn’t find a merkin there either.

Woodie said:
Kingy said:
I was asked by a guy if I knew where they could find a toupee.I replied, “Not off the top of my head”.
You wouldn’t find a merkin there either.
They’re all north of Mexico.
Kingy said:
You occasionally see commentsfrom people in other countries about how much space Australia has, and about how many squillions of people it might accommodate.
Fine, i’ll give you a nice house out near Cameron Corner. Live it up.
Kingy said:
Way kewlies. That means we can do what we like with the rest of it. Dig it up, set fire to it, sell it off, nuclear waste dump, or all of the above, hey what but.
Woodie said:
Kingy said:
Way kewlies. That means we can do what we like with the rest of it. Dig it up, set fire to it, sell it off, nuclear waste dump, or all of the above, hey what but.
Atomic bombs.
Oh, right, that’s already been done.

gots me AMD radeon graphics working, got me brightness control and all else related back
fig jam, well actually an indian chap on youtube
anyways looks like a windows update replaced AMD drivers, couldn’t even see AMD in device manager, so had to get the radeon drivers and update them over the windows
whatever anyway, I stumbled along, had a happy accident eventually
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:I’ve also been wondering how she is.
Me too. I have been thinking it about lots. Perhaps I should see whether I am blocked. she gets angry with me that I keep talking to the people she has a problem with.
I wonder if the gummies are too strong too often. I’ve heard that because they taste like lollies, people can tend to OD.
Paranoia and all that.
On occasion I pop in to see if there are any interesting posts re: USA politics and to check the meme thread out. This morning I clicked on a Chat post and find that roughbarked is making insulting remarks about me.
1. Ros I haven’t blocked you, I just find it difficult to be Facebook friends with a person who doesn’t actually call out Bubblecar for his abusive and disgusting treatment of me, then again I should unfriend dv, Brindabellas, OCDC and various others. It is amazing how many of you keep talking to him like he’s not a dangerously mentally unwell person.
One poster keeps in touch with me, but is worried about calling out the obvious inequities in this place, and OCDC shares cat-related memes etc with me.
2. roughbarked – you are an idiot. For you to post this crap about me just proves how stupid you are. In the past I have very occasionally used THC gummies to help me with the stress/anxiety/depression/ C-PTSD that plagues my life. I am not abusing the use of them “because they taste like lollies”. You insult my intelligence. The last lot of gummies for sleep-aid that I invested in sit unused in the kitchen cupboard. I used a mood enhancer gummy last month to just chill out and made the mistake of watching a fucking horror movie. Not going to do that again any time soon.
I shouldn’t have to explain myself to you, or anyone, but hopefully you can use my feedback to stop being a fucking know-it-all about things you know nothing about.
3. captain_spaulding – thanks for your post. I am fine as I can be, all things considered.
kii said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:Me too. I have been thinking it about lots. Perhaps I should see whether I am blocked. she gets angry with me that I keep talking to the people she has a problem with.
I wonder if the gummies are too strong too often. I’ve heard that because they taste like lollies, people can tend to OD.
Paranoia and all that.
On occasion I pop in to see if there are any interesting posts re: USA politics and to check the meme thread out. This morning I clicked on a Chat post and find that roughbarked is making insulting remarks about me.
1. Ros I haven’t blocked you, I just find it difficult to be Facebook friends with a person who doesn’t actually call out Bubblecar for his abusive and disgusting treatment of me, then again I should unfriend dv, Brindabellas, OCDC and various others. It is amazing how many of you keep talking to him like he’s not a dangerously mentally unwell person.
One poster keeps in touch with me, but is worried about calling out the obvious inequities in this place, and OCDC shares cat-related memes etc with me.
2. roughbarked – you are an idiot. For you to post this crap about me just proves how stupid you are. In the past I have very occasionally used THC gummies to help me with the stress/anxiety/depression/ C-PTSD that plagues my life. I am not abusing the use of them “because they taste like lollies”. You insult my intelligence. The last lot of gummies for sleep-aid that I invested in sit unused in the kitchen cupboard. I used a mood enhancer gummy last month to just chill out and made the mistake of watching a fucking horror movie. Not going to do that again any time soon.
I shouldn’t have to explain myself to you, or anyone, but hopefully you can use my feedback to stop being a fucking know-it-all about things you know nothing about.
3. captain_spaulding – thanks for your post. I am fine as I can be, all things considered.
you know I care. obviously, others do too.
I hope things are being okay or better than okay. xxx.
just checked my cousin’s facebook page. the one that was running in last week’s council elections. I said there was no way I would vote for him. And it appears most had the same thought. good.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees at the back door, getting light. We are forecast 16 degrees with showers.
I’ve got a doctor’s appointment at 8.45 this morning (I should have some blood tests done again, I’ve turned 65 and the last lot were done when I turned 60, and I need a tet tox booster, it’s gone 10 years). When I get home I’ll finish sorting the photos from yesterday and I’ll upload them to iNaturalist for the Bioblitz.
LOL
LOL
SCIENCE said:
LOL
good.

kii said:
3. captain_spaulding – thanks for your post. I am fine as I can be, all things considered.
Look after yourself. Give us an update every now and then?
like i say, no-one here would wish any harm on you, whatever differences might be held, and you’re certainly not forgotten. Never have been.
Bogsnorkler said:
So, it’s not going to look good, then?
captain_spalding said:
kii said:3. captain_spaulding – thanks for your post. I am fine as I can be, all things considered.
Look after yourself. Give us an update every now and then?
like i say, no-one here would wish any harm on you, whatever differences might be held, and you’re certainly not forgotten. Never have been.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
kii said:3. captain_spaulding – thanks for your post. I am fine as I can be, all things considered.
Look after yourself. Give us an update every now and then?
like i say, no-one here would wish any harm on you, whatever differences might be held, and you’re certainly not forgotten. Never have been.
kii Welcome back I’m happy to see you talking to us again.
ditto.
Good morning everybody.
Partly cloudy, a light air, 17.5° C and 85% RH. BoM doesn’t thin there is much chance of rain and forecasts a top of 25° C.
Some bills to be paid today. And I have to contact the bank to find out how I should go about changing the automatic payment to my credit card, as they have shortened the interest-free period. The letter they sent me reads like I have to attend the branch that I established the accounts with – 700 km away. The closest branch is at Gympie, 75 km away, but after the big flood, the bank re-built and severely reduced the branch’s services. No desks, no tellers…
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Partly cloudy, a light air, 17.5° C and 85% RH. BoM doesn’t thin there is much chance of rain and forecasts a top of 25° C.
Some bills to be paid today. And I have to contact the bank to find out how I should go about changing the automatic payment to my credit card, as they have shortened the interest-free period. The letter they sent me reads like I have to attend the branch that I established the accounts with – 700 km away. The closest branch is at Gympie, 75 km away, but after the big flood, the bank re-built and severely reduced the branch’s services. No desks, no tellers…
Bugger.
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Partly cloudy, a light air, 17.5° C and 85% RH. BoM doesn’t thin there is much chance of rain and forecasts a top of 25° C.
Some bills to be paid today. And I have to contact the bank to find out how I should go about changing the automatic payment to my credit card, as they have shortened the interest-free period. The letter they sent me reads like I have to attend the branch that I established the accounts with – 700 km away. The closest branch is at Gympie, 75 km away, but after the big flood, the bank re-built and severely reduced the branch’s services. No desks, no tellers…
go to the nearest branch and explain the situation. usually can be fixed.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Partly cloudy, a light air, 17.5° C and 85% RH. BoM doesn’t thin there is much chance of rain and forecasts a top of 25° C.
Some bills to be paid today. And I have to contact the bank to find out how I should go about changing the automatic payment to my credit card, as they have shortened the interest-free period. The letter they sent me reads like I have to attend the branch that I established the accounts with – 700 km away. The closest branch is at Gympie, 75 km away, but after the big flood, the bank re-built and severely reduced the branch’s services. No desks, no tellers…
go to the nearest branch and explain the situation. usually can be fixed.
I’d call them first. Or engage with one of their chat-bots.
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Partly cloudy, a light air, 17.5° C and 85% RH. BoM doesn’t thin there is much chance of rain and forecasts a top of 25° C.
Some bills to be paid today. And I have to contact the bank to find out how I should go about changing the automatic payment to my credit card, as they have shortened the interest-free period. The letter they sent me reads like I have to attend the branch that I established the accounts with – 700 km away. The closest branch is at Gympie, 75 km away, but after the big flood, the bank re-built and severely reduced the branch’s services. No desks, no tellers…
Can’t you just ring them and do it over the phone?
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Partly cloudy, a light air, 17.5° C and 85% RH. BoM doesn’t thin there is much chance of rain and forecasts a top of 25° C.
Some bills to be paid today. And I have to contact the bank to find out how I should go about changing the automatic payment to my credit card, as they have shortened the interest-free period. The letter they sent me reads like I have to attend the branch that I established the accounts with – 700 km away. The closest branch is at Gympie, 75 km away, but after the big flood, the bank re-built and severely reduced the branch’s services. No desks, no tellers…
Can’t you just ring them and do it over the phone?
Yeah or see if it can be done online if MV uses internet banking.
I’m back. Problems getting blood out of me for testing…I must have dehydrated as well as fasted. Done now.
buffy said:
I’m back. Problems getting blood out of me for testing…I must have dehydrated as well as fasted. Done now.
Yes they do advise drinking lots of water.
But even with that it always takes a few tries before they get any out of me.
Same when trying to fit cannulas. Last time they had to use an ultrasound.
Thanks for all your ideas about the banking stuff.
:)
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car
·
TOLD YOU IT’S BEEN A BIT WINDY 💨
Wind data from kunanyi / Mt Wellington shows 21 of the first 22 days of September have had wind gusts over 80 km/hour!
‒ 15 of these days have had gusts over 100 km/hour
– 11 of these days have had gusts over 120 km/hour
– maximum recorded wind speed has been 161 km/hour
——
please turn it off.
sarahs mum said:
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car ·
TOLD YOU IT’S BEEN A BIT WINDY 💨
Wind data from kunanyi / Mt Wellington shows 21 of the first 22 days of September have had wind gusts over 80 km/hour!
‒ 15 of these days have had gusts over 100 km/hour
– 11 of these days have had gusts over 120 km/hour
– maximum recorded wind speed has been 161 km/hour
——please turn it off.
It does get very monotonous at this time of year, but seems worse this year.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car ·
TOLD YOU IT’S BEEN A BIT WINDY 💨
Wind data from kunanyi / Mt Wellington shows 21 of the first 22 days of September have had wind gusts over 80 km/hour!
‒ 15 of these days have had gusts over 100 km/hour
– 11 of these days have had gusts over 120 km/hour
– maximum recorded wind speed has been 161 km/hour
——please turn it off.
It does get very monotonous at this time of year, but seems worse this year.
rattlin the walls. rattlin the brain.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car ·
TOLD YOU IT’S BEEN A BIT WINDY 💨
Wind data from kunanyi / Mt Wellington shows 21 of the first 22 days of September have had wind gusts over 80 km/hour!
‒ 15 of these days have had gusts over 100 km/hour
– 11 of these days have had gusts over 120 km/hour
– maximum recorded wind speed has been 161 km/hour
——please turn it off.
It does get very monotonous at this time of year, but seems worse this year.
rattlin the walls. rattlin the brain.
Yes the place seems under relentless siege.
I’ve just been out to check my letterbox and funnily enough it is pleasantly warm and spring-like out there, if you ignore the wind.
Temu think I might want this.

Bubblecar said:
Temu think I might want this.
buy buy buy!
Spiny Norman said:
Bubblecar said:
Temu think I might want this.
Go full stylish!
Have to wonder how many of these items find buyers.

Space Karen’s mob have retrieved part of the booster stage from the last Starship flight.
Spiny Norman said:
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Space Karen’s mob have retrieved part of the booster stage from the last Starship flight.
Willitstart.com
Spiny Norman said:
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Space Karen’s mob have retrieved part of the booster stage from the last Starship flight.
litterbug lady reckons
Bubblecar said:
Temu think I might want this.
chook happily go for walk with hooman
lost the lectrickery for 30 minutes. could be worse.
Spiny Norman said:
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Space Karen’s mob have retrieved part of the booster stage from the last Starship flight.
Repaint it and fit it onto the millennium falcon.
It’ll buff out
Tau.Neutrino said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Space Karen’s mob have retrieved part of the booster stage from the last Starship flight.
Repaint it and fit it onto the millennium falcon.

Spiny Norman said:
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Space Karen’s mob have retrieved part of the booster stage from the last Starship flight.

kryten,
How’s you new set-top box going?
Spiny Norman said:
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Space Karen’s mob have retrieved part of the booster stage from the last Starship flight.

Michael V said:
kryten,How’s you new set-top box going?
hey MV some teething problems, most likely operator error although very slow loadin. Fine once I find the show we want to watch
kryten said:
Michael V said:
kryten,How’s you new set-top box going?
hey MV some teething problems, most likely operator error although very slow loadin. Fine once I find the show we want to watch
What one did you get?
kryten said:
Michael V said:
kryten,How’s you new set-top box going?
hey MV some teething problems, most likely operator error although very slow loadin. Fine once I find the show we want to watch
So not as good as the Telstra TV, I take it.
Woodie said:
kryten said:
Michael V said:
kryten,How’s you new set-top box going?
hey MV some teething problems, most likely operator error although very slow loadin. Fine once I find the show we want to watch
What one did you get?
I haven’t got one yet. The Hubbl site is poor, and turning me against that STB, although it is considerably cheaper than the one kryten and buffy got.
There is still some slight chance the Telstra TV (Roku) device may still work after the turn-off date.
Woodie said:
kryten said:
Michael V said:
kryten,How’s you new set-top box going?
hey MV some teething problems, most likely operator error although very slow loadin. Fine once I find the show we want to watch
What one did you get?
Fetch
Michael V said:
kryten said:
Michael V said:
kryten,How’s you new set-top box going?
hey MV some teething problems, most likely operator error although very slow loadin. Fine once I find the show we want to watch
So not as good as the Telstra TV, I take it.
Not by a long shot, although to be fair we used Roku for a long time.
I’m having a nice cup of tea, black and one.
Over.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m having a nice cup of tea, black and one.
Over.
I’ve just eaten a carrot, ungrated.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m having a nice cup of tea, black and one.
Over.
I’ve just eaten a carrot, ungrated.
milk coffee.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m having a nice cup of tea, black and one.
Over.
I’ve just eaten a carrot, ungrated.
lazy bastard can’t even grate a carrot
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m having a nice cup of tea, black and one.
Over.
I’ve just eaten a carrot, ungrated.
lazy bastard can’t even grate a carrot
Yeah it’s not right.
100 Hours in Taliban Controlled Afghanistan as a Non-Muslim Woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOPE7O-pxj4
44 minute vid and the only woman in it is the Australian narrator.
it is illegal to film an afghani women and they are not allowed to talk in public anymore.
sarahs mum said:
100 Hours in Taliban Controlled Afghanistan as a Non-Muslim Womanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOPE7O-pxj4
44 minute vid and the only woman in it is the Australian narrator.
it is illegal to film an afghani women and they are not allowed to talk in public anymore.
Yet we still let Afghanistan join in the international cricket etc. Wonder why there aren’t sanctions for such gross abuse of human rights.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/sep/23/mikey-brennan-shippies-wipeout-shipstern-bluff
No no no no.
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/sep/23/mikey-brennan-shippies-wipeout-shipstern-bluff
No no no no.
Yes it’s a bit foolish.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
I’ve just eaten a carrot, ungrated.
lazy bastard can’t even grate a carrot
Yeah it’s not right.
râpe
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
100 Hours in Taliban Controlled Afghanistan as a Non-Muslim Woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOPE7O-pxj4
44 minute vid and the only woman in it is the Australian narrator.
it is illegal to film an afghani women and they are not allowed to talk in public anymore.
Yet we still let Afghanistan join in the international cricket etc. Wonder why there aren’t sanctions for such gross abuse of human rights.
shrug we ally ourselves with the DPRNA shrug
Red bellied black snake photo just gone up on iNaturalist (Snowy River National Park). Apparently all those coils are not one snake but two having an “intimate encounter” as the notes say.

buffy said:
Red bellied black snake photo just gone up on iNaturalist (Snowy River National Park). Apparently all those coils are not one snake but two having an “intimate encounter” as the notes say.
great markings.
buffy said:
Red bellied black snake photo just gone up on iNaturalist (Snowy River National Park). Apparently all those coils are not one snake but two having an “intimate encounter” as the notes say.
Seen a few at the redoubt, I think they are mostly harmless.
Bump.
Bogsnorkler said:
Bump.

but then it went…

much better.
Home from truck repairs, after two site visits, and a bunch of quotes and bill payments this morning.
The Isuzu truck now has a new 24v-12v electric reducer thingy, and the wiring and switches are all done ready for when I have a chance to bolt the tarp motor onto it.
It also has a new radiator header tank, and it’s refilled with the proper coolant, which was the main reason that I was working on it today on a public holiday.
I ran out of daylight to do an oil & filter change on Ms Kingy’s car, hopefully next weekend, but I now have the oil and filter in the garage ready for it.
Ms Kingy has just handed me the plan for the brigade refresher training coming up soon, and I’m trying to find a mechanic to fix the blown hydraulic hose on the CTL for tomorrow morning.
I’m beginning to think that Dolly Parton’s 9 to 5 song was about just how much spare time you have with a part time job.
So that was my day off on Queen Charles Birthday weekend.
20 years since I met my wife. She was doing logistics coordination for SOS International: mostly evac from minesites. Then a few months after we met she was seconded to AusAID in Aceh for the tsunami relief coordination.
Deciding which new CTL to replace the Mustang.
Either a JCB Teleskid:
https://www.jcb.com/en-us/products/teleskid
or a SVL 75-3:https://kubota.com.au/product/track-loader-svl75-3
The Caterpillar dealer has not been very helpful. They charged me an extra $3000 for nothing, so they can go fuck themselves, and I’ll spend my(the banks) money elsewhere.
There are also other options.
dv said:
20 years since I met my wife. She was doing logistics coordination for SOS International: mostly evac from minesites. Then a few months after we met she was seconded to AusAID in Aceh for the tsunami relief coordination.
I have sometimes wondered what line of work your missus was in. congrats on the 20 years.
dv said:
20 years since I met my wife. She was doing logistics coordination for SOS International: mostly evac from minesites. Then a few months after we met she was seconded to AusAID in Aceh for the tsunami relief coordination.
Nice.
It’s also about 15 years since I first met Ms Kingy. She was part of the incident control centre at several incidents, where I handed her our T-Cards.
Long story short, both of our previous partners had left us, and we ended up having a chat afterwards about how much horrible shit we had both been through.
So now, we are both each others emotional support people.
She’s awesome. I don’t deserve her.
dv said:
20 years since I met my wife. She was doing logistics coordination for SOS International: mostly evac from minesites. Then a few months after we met she was seconded to AusAID in Aceh for the tsunami relief coordination.
many happy returns.
I’ve been alone 9 years. I must deserve it too.
Kingy said:
dv said:
20 years since I met my wife. She was doing logistics coordination for SOS International: mostly evac from minesites. Then a few months after we met she was seconded to AusAID in Aceh for the tsunami relief coordination.
Nice.
It’s also about 15 years since I first met Ms Kingy. She was part of the incident control centre at several incidents, where I handed her our T-Cards.
Long story short, both of our previous partners had left us, and we ended up having a chat afterwards about how much horrible shit we had both been through.
So now, we are both each others emotional support people.
She’s awesome. I don’t deserve her.
Yes it was second time around for each of us too.
sarahs mum said:
I’ve been alone 9 years. I must deserve it too.
Well that’s a pretty grim assessment. I’m sure it’s a mixed blessing.
I’d tell you about my life but I don’t want you to feel you need to show sympathy.
sarahs mum said:
I’ve been alone 9 years. I must deserve it too.
Yeah, I also thought that I would find a wife and have children, but there were no girls where I grew up.
I’m not sure that my previous sentence ^ made sense, but most of my younger life(<30) was just working somewhere with men.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve been alone 9 years. I must deserve it too.
Well that’s a pretty grim assessment. I’m sure it’s a mixed blessing.
she never thought she’d be alone this far down the line.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve been alone 9 years. I must deserve it too.
Well that’s a pretty grim assessment. I’m sure it’s a mixed blessing.
she never thought she’d be alone this far down the line.
sounds like the makings of a country and western song there SM.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve been alone 9 years. I must deserve it too.
Well that’s a pretty grim assessment. I’m sure it’s a mixed blessing.
she never thought she’d be alone this far down the line.
There’s always a future that you haven’t discovered yet.
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:Well that’s a pretty grim assessment. I’m sure it’s a mixed blessing.
she never thought she’d be alone this far down the line.
sounds like the makings of a country and western song there SM.
wasted time by the eagles.
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:she never thought she’d be alone this far down the line.
sounds like the makings of a country and western song there SM.
wasted time by the eagles.
I am sorry that your feel alone. I am single and quite happily divorced and very very busy in my life hoping to slow down in about 11 more years time but until then getting stuff sorted and in place for then.
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:sounds like the makings of a country and western song there SM.
wasted time by the eagles.
corrected*
I am sorry that you’re* feeling alone. I am single and quite happily divorced and very very busy in my life hoping to slow down in about 11 more years time but until then getting stuff sorted and in place for then.
monkey skipper said:
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:wasted time by the eagles.
corrected*
I am sorry that you’re* feeling alone. I am single and quite happily divorced and very very busy in my life hoping to slow down in about 11 more years time but until then getting stuff sorted and in place for then.
i said the other day that I can’t imagine living with someone anymore. I am getting used to getting my own way. so there is that.
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
monkey skipper said:corrected*
I am sorry that you’re* feeling alone. I am single and quite happily divorced and very very busy in my life hoping to slow down in about 11 more years time but until then getting stuff sorted and in place for then.
i said the other day that I can’t imagine living with someone anymore. I am getting used to getting my own way. so there is that.
They don’t have to live with you , there could be just sleep overs :) .. there very well could be another Snug person not wanting a roomie per se’ but and companion to hang out sometimes.
I am busy working towards getting one more significant thing done with my house and then cruising along to retirement or semi-retirement.
I

Costco Jesus has seen better days
Bogsnorkler said:
I’d tell you about my life but I don’t want you to feel you need to show sympathy.
Fear not, we won’t :-P
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
monkey skipper said:corrected*
I am sorry that you’re* feeling alone. I am single and quite happily divorced and very very busy in my life hoping to slow down in about 11 more years time but until then getting stuff sorted and in place for then.
i said the other day that I can’t imagine living with someone anymore. I am getting used to getting my own way. so there is that.
I was the same, until I met someone who also didn’t want to deal with someone else’s shit any more.
So now we are both two independent people living in the same house, not depending on each other, just doing our own stuff, but both enjoying being with someone who isn’t a pain in the arse.
I really hope you find someone that just enjoys your company, for who you are.
They don’t have to live with you , there could be just sleep overs :) .. there very well could be another Snug person not wanting a roomie per se’ but and companion to hang out sometimes.
—-
I’d probably have to remember how to smile.
I really hope you find someone that just enjoys your company, for who you are.
——
ta. :)
I do think it unlikely. but yeah.
sarahs mum said:
They don’t have to live with you , there could be just sleep overs :) .. there very well could be another Snug person not wanting a roomie per se’ but and companion to hang out sometimes.
—-I’d probably have to remember how to smile.
I don’t think smiling is mandatory … :)
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:
They don’t have to live with you , there could be just sleep overs :) .. there very well could be another Snug person not wanting a roomie per se’ but and companion to hang out sometimes.
—-I’d probably have to remember how to smile.
I don’t think smiling is mandatory … :)
good.
dv said:
20 years since I met my wife. She was doing logistics coordination for SOS International: mostly evac from minesites. Then a few months after we met she was seconded to AusAID in Aceh for the tsunami relief coordination.
did you do something nice DV?
sarahs mum said:
They don’t have to live with you , there could be just sleep overs :) .. there very well could be another Snug person not wanting a roomie per se’ but and companion to hang out sometimes.
—-I’d probably have to remember how to smile.
I have some jokes, most of them are terrible, but I try.
If they are funny, we would smile or even actually lol, but the best I can manage is to find some stupid memes which occasionally are entertaining.
I’ll go look…
Kingy said:
sarahs mum said:
They don’t have to live with you , there could be just sleep overs :) .. there very well could be another Snug person not wanting a roomie per se’ but and companion to hang out sometimes.
—-I’d probably have to remember how to smile.
I have some jokes, most of them are terrible, but I try.
If they are funny, we would smile or even actually lol, but the best I can manage is to find some stupid memes which occasionally are entertaining.
I’ll go look…
lots of things amuse me. good laughs are rare.


I don’t even know what this is, but I lol’d.

Kingy said:
I don’t even know what this is, but I lol’d.
I’m more into puns. Or surrealism.
sarahs mum said:
Kingy said:
I don’t even know what this is, but I lol’d.
I’m more into puns. Or surrealism.

sarahs mum said:
dv said:
20 years since I met my wife. She was doing logistics coordination for SOS International: mostly evac from minesites. Then a few months after we met she was seconded to AusAID in Aceh for the tsunami relief coordination.
did you do something nice DV?
No nicer than normal. It’s not an anniversary we celebrate or anything like that. It just occurred to me.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
20 years since I met my wife. She was doing logistics coordination for SOS International: mostly evac from minesites. Then a few months after we met she was seconded to AusAID in Aceh for the tsunami relief coordination.
did you do something nice DV?
No nicer than normal. It’s not an anniversary we celebrate or anything like that. It just occurred to me.
go some flowers anyway.
Bogsnorkler said:
I’d tell you about my life but I don’t want you to feel you need to show sympathy.
As 爱 would say what is this LIFE thing anyway oh wait that other word translates to just another 4 letter word oh well better get back to the coding.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees at the back door and overcast. There has been some gentle rain during the night. We are forecast 19 degrees with possible fog this morning and showers developing.
Bakery Breakfast, and a haircut are on the agenda today.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Red bellied black snake photo just gone up on iNaturalist (Snowy River National Park). Apparently all those coils are not one snake but two having an “intimate encounter” as the notes say.
great markings.
Eremophila groundcover under them?
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:did you do something nice DV?
No nicer than normal. It’s not an anniversary we celebrate or anything like that. It just occurred to me.
go some flowers anyway.
54 years since we first met.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees at the back door and overcast. There has been some gentle rain during the night. We are forecast 19 degrees with possible fog this morning and showers developing.Bakery Breakfast, and a haircut are on the agenda today.
That reminds me.
These are being banned on the street in UK. Too many zombies..

Ian said:
These are being banned on the street in UK. Too many zombies..
Health andsafety/political correctness gone mad.
Ian said:
These are being banned on the street in UK. Too many zombies..
If they are being banned, there re clearly insufficient zombies to justify their sale.
They look amazing, but how do you get blood from your human or animal out of the green cord? I mean, you’ve got to practice using it somewhere.
Michael V said:
Ian said:
These are being banned on the street in UK. Too many zombies..
If they are being banned, there re clearly insufficient zombies to justify their sale.
They look amazing, but how do you get blood from your human or animal out of the green cord? I mean, you’ve got to practice using it somewhere.
Cold water and suds I guess. I know nought about zombie circulatory systems though.
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Ian said:
These are being banned on the street in UK. Too many zombies..
If they are being banned, there re clearly insufficient zombies to justify their sale.
They look amazing, but how do you get blood from your human or animal out of the green cord? I mean, you’ve got to practice using it somewhere.
Cold water and suds I guess. I know nought about zombie circulatory systems though.
they run on gas, where do you think the word artery comes from, how do you think they ended up so dry and dusty
maybe they meant too many zombies in Parliament making ban decision
Ian said:
These are being banned on the street in UK. Too many zombies..
Should not the sale of such have always been restricted?
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
These are being banned on the street in UK. Too many zombies..
Should not the sale of such have always been restricted?
to good guys with guns
Well damn that was a difficult security to break.
A Sydney man was able to get around the self-exclusion scheme by using a different first name, email address and phone number.
SCIENCE said:
Well damn that was a difficult security to break.
A Sydney man was able to get around the self-exclusion scheme by using a different first name, email address and phone number.
I’d bet he wasn’t the only one.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Well damn that was a difficult security to break.
A Sydney man was able to get around the self-exclusion scheme by using a different first name, email address and phone number.
I’d bet he wasn’t the only one.
give short odds on that
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees at the back door and overcast. There has been some gentle rain during the night. We are forecast 19 degrees with possible fog this morning and showers developing.Bakery Breakfast, and a haircut are on the agenda today.
I thought you had one the other day.
I witnessed an even yesterday that I have only seen once before here. The maritime pines across the tracks from me shed their pollen. clouds of yellow.
Max 13 and showers today after a frosty morning. On Thursday we’re expecting 12 and -1, but after that it should start warming up again.
Bogsnorkler said:
I witnessed an even yesterday that I have only seen once before here. The maritime pines across the tracks from me shed their pollen. clouds of yellow.
Should have harvested and sold it.

Bogsnorkler said:
I witnessed an even yesterday that I have only seen once before here. The maritime pines across the tracks from me shed their pollen. clouds of yellow.
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I witnessed an even yesterday that I have only seen once before here. The maritime pines across the tracks from me shed their pollen. clouds of yellow.
Only similar thing I’ve seen is coral spawning on the Reef near the Whitsundays.
Pink and stinky.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I witnessed an even yesterday that I have only seen once before here. The maritime pines across the tracks from me shed their pollen. clouds of yellow.
Only similar thing I’ve seen is coral spawning on the Reef near the Whitsundays.
Pink and stinky.
Bogsnorkler said:
I witnessed an even yesterday that I have only seen once before here. The maritime pines across the tracks from me shed their pollen. clouds of yellow.
The Callitris are doiing that here.
Hello
Cymek said:
Hello
good job all, carry on.
Dropbear said:
good job all, carry on.
Thanks, will do.
Cymek said:
Hello
Greetings.
Dropbear said:
good job all, carry on.
Cheers, nice to see an oldtimer peeping back in.
hears flycatcher out there outside
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees at the back door and overcast. There has been some gentle rain during the night. We are forecast 19 degrees with possible fog this morning and showers developing.Bakery Breakfast, and a haircut are on the agenda today.
I thought you had one the other day.
One what? I have breakfast at the bakery twice a week, Tuesday with Hamilton friend and Saturday with my bushwanderer friend. This haircut is 4 weeks on from the last one.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees at the back door and overcast. There has been some gentle rain during the night. We are forecast 19 degrees with possible fog this morning and showers developing.Bakery Breakfast, and a haircut are on the agenda today.
I thought you had one the other day.
One what? I have breakfast at the bakery twice a week, Tuesday with Hamilton friend and Saturday with my bushwanderer friend. This haircut is 4 weeks on from the last one.
Haircut. A haircut every four weeks, luxury.
transition said:
hears flycatcher out there outside
there ya goes

wagtails out there building nest too
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:I thought you had one the other day.
One what? I have breakfast at the bakery twice a week, Tuesday with Hamilton friend and Saturday with my bushwanderer friend. This haircut is 4 weeks on from the last one.
Haircut. A haircut every four weeks, luxury.
Usually it is every 5 weeks, but things got a bit out of kilter with Mr buffy’s woes and I had to move one of my forward booked appointments. So there was a 6 week gap and this one was a 4 week one. The next gap is back to my usual 5 weeks. There are two more appointments made before Christmas.
yeah strange so
“It’s too early for me to say how the family got there so quickly, however, a number of family and friends did converge on the crime scene,” Superintendent Kennis said.
strange wonder how they did
transition said:
transition said:
hears flycatcher out there outside
there ya goes
wagtails out there building nest too
in case think making this shit up

and few spots rain on tin roof, could be beginning of the rain
cup of tea in a moment, going with no sugar
transition said:
transition said:
transition said:
hears flycatcher out there outside
there ya goes
wagtails out there building nest too
in case think making this shit up
and few spots rain on tin roof, could be beginning of the rain
cup of tea in a moment, going with no sugar
I hope that nest ends up bigger than that.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
transition said:there ya goes
wagtails out there building nest too
in case think making this shit up
and few spots rain on tin roof, could be beginning of the rain
cup of tea in a moment, going with no sugar
I hope that nest ends up bigger than that.
yeah of course, cup quite lot higher than that
don’t you be worrying now, those wagtails dinosaurs been building wagtail dinosaur nests for thousands perhaps millions of years, it’s their business, their job, their specialty
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:in case think making this shit up
and few spots rain on tin roof, could be beginning of the rain
cup of tea in a moment, going with no sugar
I hope that nest ends up bigger than that.
yeah of course, cup quite lot higher than that
don’t you be worrying now, those wagtails dinosaurs been building wagtail dinosaur nests for thousands perhaps millions of years, it’s their business, their job, their specialty
meticulously arranging the building materials

SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Well damn that was a difficult security to break.
A Sydney man was able to get around the self-exclusion scheme by using a different first name, email address and phone number.
I’d bet he wasn’t the only one.
give short odds on that
It’s like the old days in NSW, when Sunday trading by pubs was restricted to ‘bona fide’ travellers. You had to ‘sign in’ in a book, with your name, and where you came from.
The page ‘Sunday book’ wold be filled with unfamiliar names, and distant towns and locations.
Then, you’d enter the pub, and see people who were, quite remarkably, all precise doppelgangers for the local residents who frequented the place Monday to Saturday. Often including identical twins for members of the local constabulary.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:in case think making this shit up
and few spots rain on tin roof, could be beginning of the rain
cup of tea in a moment, going with no sugar
I hope that nest ends up bigger than that.
yeah of course, cup quite lot higher than that
don’t you be worrying now, those wagtails dinosaurs been building wagtail dinosaur nests for thousands perhaps millions of years, it’s their business, their job, their specialty
Buried or Open? Ancient Eggshells Reveal Dinosaur Nesting Behaviors

Dropbear said:
good job all, carry on.
Roger that.
transition said:
hears flycatcher out there outside
I walked out the door and an eastern rosella came around the corner and landed but my camera was on the seat between it and me. That’s the first time I’ve seen one of those here. Of course it left before I could pick up the camera.
SCIENCE said:
yeah strange so
“It’s too early for me to say how the family got there so quickly, however, a number of family and friends did converge on the crime scene,” Superintendent Kennis said.
strange wonder how they did
In relation to?
transition said:
transition said:
transition said:
hears flycatcher out there outside
there ya goes
wagtails out there building nest too
in case think making this shit up
and few spots rain on tin roof, could be beginning of the rain
cup of tea in a moment, going with no sugar
Ah, a white browed flycatcher. ;)
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
transition said:there ya goes
wagtails out there building nest too
in case think making this shit up
and few spots rain on tin roof, could be beginning of the rain
cup of tea in a moment, going with no sugar
I hope that nest ends up bigger than that.
Not usually.
Lovely textile picture by the ex-Ross sister called Night Life, which she’s showing in the Minds Do Matter exhibition.

transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:in case think making this shit up
and few spots rain on tin roof, could be beginning of the rain
cup of tea in a moment, going with no sugar
I hope that nest ends up bigger than that.
yeah of course, cup quite lot higher than that
don’t you be worrying now, those wagtails dinosaurs been building wagtail dinosaur nests for thousands perhaps millions of years, it’s their business, their job, their specialty
As long as there are spiderwebs and mosquitoes.
and some wandering conversation here about related….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibberbird
“The gibberbird (Ashbyia lovensis) is a species of chat within the Meliphagidae family of passerine birds.
Taxonomy
This species, also formerly known as the desert chat, is endemic to Australia and the only species within the genus Ashbyia. This genus was named after the South Australian ornithologist Edwin Ashby. The specific epithet lovensis honours the Irish missionary Reverend James Love (1889–1947). The gibberbird, along with the four chats of the genus Epithianura, have sometimes been placed in a separate family, Epthianuridae (the Australian chats), but are now thought to be aberrant honeyeaters in the family Meliphagidae.
The common name of gibberbird was given as a reflection of the gibber plains that make up the primary habitat for the species and unlike other chat species, the gibberbird is almost completely terrestrial, at ease on the ground level where it feeds, roosts and nests…”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_pavement
“A desert pavement, also called reg (in western Sahara), serir (in eastern Sahara), gibber (in Australia), or saï (in central Asia) is a desert surface covered with closely packed, interlocking angular or rounded rock fragments of pebble and cobble size. They typically top alluvial fans. Desert varnish collects on the exposed surface rocks over time.
Geologists debate the mechanics of pavement formation and their age…”
Bubblecar said:
Lovely textile picture by the ex-Ross sister called Night Life, which she’s showing in the Minds Do Matter exhibition.
Very nice. I like the work.
transition said:
and some wandering conversation here about related….https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibberbird
“The gibberbird (Ashbyia lovensis) is a species of chat within the Meliphagidae family of passerine birds.
TaxonomyThis species, also formerly known as the desert chat, is endemic to Australia and the only species within the genus Ashbyia. This genus was named after the South Australian ornithologist Edwin Ashby. The specific epithet lovensis honours the Irish missionary Reverend James Love (1889–1947). The gibberbird, along with the four chats of the genus Epithianura, have sometimes been placed in a separate family, Epthianuridae (the Australian chats), but are now thought to be aberrant honeyeaters in the family Meliphagidae.
The common name of gibberbird was given as a reflection of the gibber plains that make up the primary habitat for the species and unlike other chat species, the gibberbird is almost completely terrestrial, at ease on the ground level where it feeds, roosts and nests…”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_pavement
“A desert pavement, also called reg (in western Sahara), serir (in eastern Sahara), gibber (in Australia), or saï (in central Asia) is a desert surface covered with closely packed, interlocking angular or rounded rock fragments of pebble and cobble size. They typically top alluvial fans. Desert varnish collects on the exposed surface rocks over time.Geologists debate the mechanics of pavement formation and their age…”
Thank ye.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
and some wandering conversation here about related….https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibberbird
“The gibberbird (Ashbyia lovensis) is a species of chat within the Meliphagidae family of passerine birds.
TaxonomyThis species, also formerly known as the desert chat, is endemic to Australia and the only species within the genus Ashbyia. This genus was named after the South Australian ornithologist Edwin Ashby. The specific epithet lovensis honours the Irish missionary Reverend James Love (1889–1947). The gibberbird, along with the four chats of the genus Epithianura, have sometimes been placed in a separate family, Epthianuridae (the Australian chats), but are now thought to be aberrant honeyeaters in the family Meliphagidae.
The common name of gibberbird was given as a reflection of the gibber plains that make up the primary habitat for the species and unlike other chat species, the gibberbird is almost completely terrestrial, at ease on the ground level where it feeds, roosts and nests…”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_pavement
“A desert pavement, also called reg (in western Sahara), serir (in eastern Sahara), gibber (in Australia), or saï (in central Asia) is a desert surface covered with closely packed, interlocking angular or rounded rock fragments of pebble and cobble size. They typically top alluvial fans. Desert varnish collects on the exposed surface rocks over time.Geologists debate the mechanics of pavement formation and their age…”
Thank ye.
As opposed to the greater gibber polisher that lives on reflected sunlight.
transition said:
and some wandering conversation here about related….https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibberbird
“The gibberbird (Ashbyia lovensis) is a species of chat within the Meliphagidae family of passerine birds.
TaxonomyThis species, also formerly known as the desert chat, is endemic to Australia and the only species within the genus Ashbyia. This genus was named after the South Australian ornithologist Edwin Ashby. The specific epithet lovensis honours the Irish missionary Reverend James Love (1889–1947). The gibberbird, along with the four chats of the genus Epithianura, have sometimes been placed in a separate family, Epthianuridae (the Australian chats), but are now thought to be aberrant honeyeaters in the family Meliphagidae.
The common name of gibberbird was given as a reflection of the gibber plains that make up the primary habitat for the species and unlike other chat species, the gibberbird is almost completely terrestrial, at ease on the ground level where it feeds, roosts and nests…”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_pavement
“A desert pavement, also called reg (in western Sahara), serir (in eastern Sahara), gibber (in Australia), or saï (in central Asia) is a desert surface covered with closely packed, interlocking angular or rounded rock fragments of pebble and cobble size. They typically top alluvial fans. Desert varnish collects on the exposed surface rocks over time.Geologists debate the mechanics of pavement formation and their age…”
Gibber is an appropriate name for a chat.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
and some wandering conversation here about related….https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibberbird
“The gibberbird (Ashbyia lovensis) is a species of chat within the Meliphagidae family of passerine birds.
TaxonomyThis species, also formerly known as the desert chat, is endemic to Australia and the only species within the genus Ashbyia. This genus was named after the South Australian ornithologist Edwin Ashby. The specific epithet lovensis honours the Irish missionary Reverend James Love (1889–1947). The gibberbird, along with the four chats of the genus Epithianura, have sometimes been placed in a separate family, Epthianuridae (the Australian chats), but are now thought to be aberrant honeyeaters in the family Meliphagidae.
The common name of gibberbird was given as a reflection of the gibber plains that make up the primary habitat for the species and unlike other chat species, the gibberbird is almost completely terrestrial, at ease on the ground level where it feeds, roosts and nests…”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_pavement
“A desert pavement, also called reg (in western Sahara), serir (in eastern Sahara), gibber (in Australia), or saï (in central Asia) is a desert surface covered with closely packed, interlocking angular or rounded rock fragments of pebble and cobble size. They typically top alluvial fans. Desert varnish collects on the exposed surface rocks over time.Geologists debate the mechanics of pavement formation and their age…”
Gibber is an appropriate name for a chat.
Gibber Gabber?
Bubblecar said:
Lovely textile picture by the ex-Ross sister called Night Life, which she’s showing in the Minds Do Matter exhibition.
I wish I had that sort of talent.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Lovely textile picture by the ex-Ross sister called Night Life, which she’s showing in the Minds Do Matter exhibition.
I wish I had that sort of talent.
You have the talent of rock chipping. ;)
Was talkiing to my gologist sister in-law in Perth recently. She said her husband was off attempting to map rocks and he said, “I hate wildflowers”. Because the good rains following the dry have created great swathes of wildflowers and he can’t see the rocks for flowers.
SCIENCE said:
yeah strange so
“It’s too early for me to say how the family got there so quickly, however, a number of family and friends did converge on the crime scene,” Superintendent Kennis said.
strange wonder how they did
Apparently, it was a family event.
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.
Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
I see birds have been under discussion here. I like this photo (not mine, taken from iNaturalist) of a tawny frogmouth at Blackburn Lake Sanctuary in Melbourne. It’s like…nothing to see here…it’s just a bunch of sticks in a tree…you can’t see me at all. This bird has been sitting for quite some time now, it must be nearly hatching time.

dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
It’s sad but it’s true.
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
I really don’t think there is anything new about people ignoring evidence that doesn’t fit their preconceptions.
Evidence?
Simon, P. The Boxer, 1969.
buffy said:
I see birds have been under discussion here. I like this photo (not mine, taken from iNaturalist) of a tawny frogmouth at Blackburn Lake Sanctuary in Melbourne. It’s like…nothing to see here…it’s just a bunch of sticks in a tree…you can’t see me at all. This bird has been sitting for quite some time now, it must be nearly hatching time.
It’s a fine portrait.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
I really don’t think there is anything new about people ignoring evidence that doesn’t fit their preconceptions.
Evidence?
Simon, P. The Boxer, 1969.
Yeah but that was a lie!
Lie la lie lie lie!
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
But why?
If someone is going to the trouble of pretending to be netflix so you will click on the link they sent, wtf do they send it from an e-mail address like:
website@findarealestateagentnearme.com?
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.

A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
Bogsnorkler said:
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A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
Not that surprising really, even the Incas had cola.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
I thought you’d just asked a bot to create that for you, but it actually comes from a perfectly legitimate web-site called:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
people have always believed and/or fell for propaganda that resonated with their world view.. that’s hardly a new phenomenon
The Rev Dodgson said:
If someone is going to the trouble of pretending to be netflix so you will click on the link they sent, wtf do they send it from an e-mail address like:website@findarealestateagentnearme.com?
because fraud is illegal and if you use someone else’s account it’s much harder to authorities to determine where the message originated from.
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
looking at some of the replies it seems people are missing the point.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
looking at some of the replies it seems people are missing the point.
So what is the point we missed, dear sir?
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
Fake! There’s a hole in the top, but the ring has not been pulled.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
looking at some of the replies it seems people are missing the point.
So what is the point we missed, dear sir?
some are saying that humans have always disbelieved the evidence. that isn’t the point and it was actually covered. the point is is that these days it is far easier to get the evidence. but people don’t. I see it everyday on the FB feeds I get.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
Fake! There’s a hole in the top, but the ring has not been pulled.
plus that ring pull looks weird.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:looking at some of the replies it seems people are missing the point.
So what is the point we missed, dear sir?
some are saying that humans have always disbelieved the evidence. that isn’t the point and it was actually covered. the point is is that these days it is far easier to get the evidence. but people don’t. I see it everyday on the FB feeds I get.
OK, but it says:
“And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely.”
… but that really wasn’t something else happening, it was what had always happened continuing to happen, even though it was even easier to check stuff.
Michael V said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
But why?
Coz if it isn’t on facebook, it didn’t happen.
dv said:
……………………… you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
But instead, they use it for having arguments with complete strangers, and looking at pictures of cats.
The Rev Dodgson said:
If someone is going to the trouble of pretending to be netflix so you will click on the link they sent, wtf do they send it from an e-mail address like:website@findarealestateagentnearme.com?
Coz youse am the smarts, Mr Dodgy Rev. Some aren’t the smarts, unfortunately.

Cool. :D
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:So what is the point we missed, dear sir?
some are saying that humans have always disbelieved the evidence. that isn’t the point and it was actually covered. the point is is that these days it is far easier to get the evidence. but people don’t. I see it everyday on the FB feeds I get.
OK, but it says:
“And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely.”
… but that really wasn’t something else happening, it was what had always happened continuing to happen, even though it was even easier to check stuff.
I think you need to reread DVs post. but to help I say this. Years ago, before the internet, people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would, and no, not in all cases. Just that the evidence was harder to get. these days it isn’t, yet people, not all people but a lot, just downright don’t believe even with concrete evidence.
Here are some of the results after I entered “bad breath” as the text prompt in DeepAI image generator:







Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:some are saying that humans have always disbelieved the evidence. that isn’t the point and it was actually covered. the point is is that these days it is far easier to get the evidence. but people don’t. I see it everyday on the FB feeds I get.
OK, but it says:
“And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely.”
… but that really wasn’t something else happening, it was what had always happened continuing to happen, even though it was even easier to check stuff.
I think you need to reread DVs post. but to help I say this. Years ago, before the internet, people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would, and no, not in all cases. Just that the evidence was harder to get. these days it isn’t, yet people, not all people but a lot, just downright don’t believe even with concrete evidence.

Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
A mummified fairy I found at the bottom of my garden.

Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:some are saying that humans have always disbelieved the evidence. that isn’t the point and it was actually covered. the point is is that these days it is far easier to get the evidence. but people don’t. I see it everyday on the FB feeds I get.
OK, but it says:
“And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely.”
… but that really wasn’t something else happening, it was what had always happened continuing to happen, even though it was even easier to check stuff.
I think you need to reread DVs post. but to help I say this. Years ago, before the internet, people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would, and no, not in all cases. Just that the evidence was harder to get. these days it isn’t, yet people, not all people but a lot, just downright don’t believe even with concrete evidence.
All too often these days it’s someone from the flat Earth mob.
I generally don’t debate them because if they’re that f’ken stupid nothing I say or present will unstupid them.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:some are saying that humans have always disbelieved the evidence. that isn’t the point and it was actually covered. the point is is that these days it is far easier to get the evidence. but people don’t. I see it everyday on the FB feeds I get.
OK, but it says:
“And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely.”
… but that really wasn’t something else happening, it was what had always happened continuing to happen, even though it was even easier to check stuff.
I think you need to reread DVs post. but to help I say this. Years ago, before the internet, people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would, and no, not in all cases. Just that the evidence was harder to get. these days it isn’t, yet people, not all people but a lot, just downright don’t believe even with concrete evidence.
“ people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would,”
Well no, probably they wouldn’t, just like now.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
I could 3D print one of those.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OK, but it says:
“And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely.”
… but that really wasn’t something else happening, it was what had always happened continuing to happen, even though it was even easier to check stuff.
I think you need to reread DVs post. but to help I say this. Years ago, before the internet, people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would, and no, not in all cases. Just that the evidence was harder to get. these days it isn’t, yet people, not all people but a lot, just downright don’t believe even with concrete evidence.
“ people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would,”
Well no, probably they wouldn’t, just like now.
I think the difference is that scientific evidence carried more widespread intellectual and social authority than it does today, because the internet now provides so much space and social clout to “alternatives”.
Spiny Norman said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OK, but it says:
“And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely.”
… but that really wasn’t something else happening, it was what had always happened continuing to happen, even though it was even easier to check stuff.
I think you need to reread DVs post. but to help I say this. Years ago, before the internet, people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would, and no, not in all cases. Just that the evidence was harder to get. these days it isn’t, yet people, not all people but a lot, just downright don’t believe even with concrete evidence.
All too often these days it’s someone from the flat Earth mob.
I generally don’t debate them because if they’re that f’ken stupid nothing I say or present will unstupid them.
I don’t ever debate them. Every space related post on FB will bring out them and the NASA lies, firmament, space isn’t real etc. Then you have the archeology mob, mudflood, ananuki, giants, aliens etc. How they survive in the world if that is their level of critical thinking is a wonder in itself.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OK, but it says:
“And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely.”
… but that really wasn’t something else happening, it was what had always happened continuing to happen, even though it was even easier to check stuff.
I think you need to reread DVs post. but to help I say this. Years ago, before the internet, people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would, and no, not in all cases. Just that the evidence was harder to get. these days it isn’t, yet people, not all people but a lot, just downright don’t believe even with concrete evidence.
“ people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would,”
Well no, probably they wouldn’t, just like now.
That is just an assumption on your part. With all the info we have available to us today there is far more chance that they will find many more like minded people to reinforce those ideas. Before the internet probably didn’t have that echo chamber. so you most likely had a better chance to convince them of the errors of their ways. this has been debated quite a bit by posters on the feeds I get.
Bogsnorkler said:
I don’t ever debate them. Every space related post on FB will bring out them and the NASA lies, firmament, space isn’t real etc. Then you have the archeology mob, mudflood, ananuki, giants, aliens etc. How they survive in the world if that is their level of critical thinking is a wonder in itself.
Mr Norkler of Bogs,
Those sorts are born everyday, and for some reason, they all live.
Bogsnorkler said:
Spiny Norman said:
Bogsnorkler said:I think you need to reread DVs post. but to help I say this. Years ago, before the internet, people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would, and no, not in all cases. Just that the evidence was harder to get. these days it isn’t, yet people, not all people but a lot, just downright don’t believe even with concrete evidence.
All too often these days it’s someone from the flat Earth mob.
I generally don’t debate them because if they’re that f’ken stupid nothing I say or present will unstupid them.
I don’t ever debate them. Every space related post on FB will bring out them and the NASA lies, firmament, space isn’t real etc. Then you have the archeology mob, mudflood, ananuki, giants, aliens etc. How they survive in the world if that is their level of critical thinking is a wonder in itself.
I quite agree. I would’ve thought they’d Darwin themselves far more often.
waves to Mr Norman,
I’ve ordered a Raspberry Pi 3B+ to run my FDM 3D printer. (Octoprint) 😎
Woodie said:
waves to Mr Norman,I’ve ordered a Raspberry Pi 3B+ to run my FDM 3D printer. (Octoprint) 😎
Cool!
I’d use Klipper though, it’s far better. You have enough tech knowledge to install & run it as well.
Bogsnorkler said:
Spiny Norman said:
Bogsnorkler said:I think you need to reread DVs post. but to help I say this. Years ago, before the internet, people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would, and no, not in all cases. Just that the evidence was harder to get. these days it isn’t, yet people, not all people but a lot, just downright don’t believe even with concrete evidence.
All too often these days it’s someone from the flat Earth mob.
I generally don’t debate them because if they’re that f’ken stupid nothing I say or present will unstupid them.
I don’t ever debate them. Every space related post on FB will bring out them and the NASA lies, firmament, space isn’t real etc. Then you have the archeology mob, mudflood, ananuki, giants, aliens etc. How they survive in the world if that is their level of critical thinking is a wonder in itself.
>>>>>How they survive in the world if that is their level of critical thinking is a wonder in itself.
Nods in total agreement.
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
waves to Mr Norman,I’ve ordered a Raspberry Pi 3B+ to run my FDM 3D printer. (Octoprint) 😎
Cool!
I’d use Klipper though, it’s far better. You have enough tech knowledge to install & run it as well.
Ain’t really looked at Klipper yet. It’s the 3D view/analysis of bed levelling I want to get that’s in an Octoprint plugin. It takes the Bed Levelling matrix out of the EEPROM and presents it graphically in 3d. Still having problems with auto bed levelling and initial layer on my Creality CR10 Smart.
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
waves to Mr Norman,I’ve ordered a Raspberry Pi 3B+ to run my FDM 3D printer. (Octoprint) 😎
Cool!
I’d use Klipper though, it’s far better. You have enough tech knowledge to install & run it as well.
Ain’t really looked at Klipper yet. It’s the 3D view/analysis of bed levelling I want to get that’s in an Octoprint plugin. It takes the Bed Levelling matrix out of the EEPROM and presents it graphically in 3d. Still having problems with auto bed levelling and initial layer on my Creality CR10 Smart.
And ya know what, Mr Norman, The best adhesion assistant I’ve found for initial layer, is hairspray. Working on a project that takes an hour to get the initial layer down. 6 day to print half of it. 5 days for the other half. Once it’s past the initial layer, it’s fine.
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
waves to Mr Norman,I’ve ordered a Raspberry Pi 3B+ to run my FDM 3D printer. (Octoprint) 😎
Cool!
I’d use Klipper though, it’s far better. You have enough tech knowledge to install & run it as well.
Ain’t really looked at Klipper yet. It’s the 3D view/analysis of bed levelling I want to get that’s in an Octoprint plugin. It takes the Bed Levelling matrix out of the EEPROM and presents it graphically in 3d. Still having problems with auto bed levelling and initial layer on my Creality CR10 Smart.
Ace Rimmer uses it and is back in time for breakfast
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:Cool!
I’d use Klipper though, it’s far better. You have enough tech knowledge to install & run it as well.
Ain’t really looked at Klipper yet. It’s the 3D view/analysis of bed levelling I want to get that’s in an Octoprint plugin. It takes the Bed Levelling matrix out of the EEPROM and presents it graphically in 3d. Still having problems with auto bed levelling and initial layer on my Creality CR10 Smart.
And ya know what, Mr Norman, The best adhesion assistant I’ve found for initial layer, is hairspray. Working on a project that takes an hour to get the initial layer down. 6 day to print half of it. 5 days for the other half. Once it’s past the initial layer, it’s fine.
Righto. It depends on what the bed surface is coated with. With PEI you typically don’t need anything.
FWIW Klipper also does bed height and much, much more.

Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.
Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
I really don’t think there is anything new about people ignoring evidence that doesn’t fit their preconceptions.
Evidence?
Simon, P. The Boxer, 1969.
Yeah but that was a lie!
Lie la lie lie lie!
Cymek said:
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:Cool!
I’d use Klipper though, it’s far better. You have enough tech knowledge to install & run it as well.
Ain’t really looked at Klipper yet. It’s the 3D view/analysis of bed levelling I want to get that’s in an Octoprint plugin. It takes the Bed Levelling matrix out of the EEPROM and presents it graphically in 3d. Still having problems with auto bed levelling and initial layer on my Creality CR10 Smart.
Ace Rimmer uses it and is back in time for breakfast
hehehehehe
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:some are saying that humans have always disbelieved the evidence. that isn’t the point and it was actually covered. the point is is that these days it is far easier to get the evidence. but people don’t. I see it everyday on the FB feeds I get.
OK, but it says:
“And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely.”
… but that really wasn’t something else happening, it was what had always happened continuing to happen, even though it was even easier to check stuff.
I think you need to reread DVs post. but to help I say this. Years ago, before the internet, people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would, and no, not in all cases. Just that the evidence was harder to get. these days it isn’t, yet people, not all people but a lot, just downright don’t believe even with concrete evidence.
Ease and desire are two very different things – people believe things because those things align with their world view.. the availability of means to check the authenticity of those things is, IMO, secondary to the fact.
shrug people have long simply believed what they were led to believe the new thing is just a much more pervasive way of leading
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:Ain’t really looked at Klipper yet. It’s the 3D view/analysis of bed levelling I want to get that’s in an Octoprint plugin. It takes the Bed Levelling matrix out of the EEPROM and presents it graphically in 3d. Still having problems with auto bed levelling and initial layer on my Creality CR10 Smart.
And ya know what, Mr Norman, The best adhesion assistant I’ve found for initial layer, is hairspray. Working on a project that takes an hour to get the initial layer down. 6 day to print half of it. 5 days for the other half. Once it’s past the initial layer, it’s fine.
Righto. It depends on what the bed surface is coated with. With PEI you typically don’t need anything.
FWIW Klipper also does bed height and much, much more.
Oh, and FWIW I bought a brand-new Bambu Labs A1.
Farken brilliant bit of gear. Very affordable, reliable, and good quality.
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:Ain’t really looked at Klipper yet. It’s the 3D view/analysis of bed levelling I want to get that’s in an Octoprint plugin. It takes the Bed Levelling matrix out of the EEPROM and presents it graphically in 3d. Still having problems with auto bed levelling and initial layer on my Creality CR10 Smart.
And ya know what, Mr Norman, The best adhesion assistant I’ve found for initial layer, is hairspray. Working on a project that takes an hour to get the initial layer down. 6 day to print half of it. 5 days for the other half. Once it’s past the initial layer, it’s fine.
Righto. It depends on what the bed surface is coated with. With PEI you typically don’t need anything.
FWIW Klipper also does bed height and much, much more.
I’ll look at Klipper once I get the Raspberry Pi plugged in and working. The USB port on the Creailty is wired for a Creality camera only. (via Creality Cloud Print) I’ve got to switch some plugs around on boards inside the printer to get a proper USB connection. Can always swap between Octopirnt/Klipper by swapping in/out the SD card on the Raspberry Pi.
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I really don’t think there is anything new about people ignoring evidence that doesn’t fit their preconceptions.
Evidence?
Simon, P. The Boxer, 1969.
Yeah but that was a lie!
Lie la lie lie lie!
Perhaps initially it was about original thinking and questioning a subject matter that is maybe not well known and the facts are open to interpretation or questioning.
Turned into something moronic and question every established fact contrary to evidence.
Feeling special as you aren’t one of the sheeple.
Doesn’t enter your head you are a moron
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:And ya know what, Mr Norman, The best adhesion assistant I’ve found for initial layer, is hairspray. Working on a project that takes an hour to get the initial layer down. 6 day to print half of it. 5 days for the other half. Once it’s past the initial layer, it’s fine.
Righto. It depends on what the bed surface is coated with. With PEI you typically don’t need anything.
FWIW Klipper also does bed height and much, much more.
I’ll look at Klipper once I get the Raspberry Pi plugged in and working. The USB port on the Creailty is wired for a Creality camera only. (via Creality Cloud Print) I’ve got to switch some plugs around on boards inside the printer to get a proper USB connection. Can always swap between Octopirnt/Klipper by swapping in/out the SD card on the Raspberry Pi.
Yep. Pretty easy to do.
SCIENCE said:
shrug people have long simply believed what they were led to believe the new thing is just a much more pervasive way of leading
yes, BtI you may have known a fellow nutter in your community who believed what you believed. Everybody knew you were nutters in that community. Now you have thousands in your “community” who believe as you do. safety in numbers.
Spiny Norman said:
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:And ya know what, Mr Norman, The best adhesion assistant I’ve found for initial layer, is hairspray. Working on a project that takes an hour to get the initial layer down. 6 day to print half of it. 5 days for the other half. Once it’s past the initial layer, it’s fine.
Righto. It depends on what the bed surface is coated with. With PEI you typically don’t need anything.
FWIW Klipper also does bed height and much, much more.
Oh, and FWIW I bought a brand-new Bambu Labs A1.
Farken brilliant bit of gear. Very affordable, reliable, and good quality.
Way kewlies.😁😎 I need the bigger build plate of the Creality. 300 * 300 * 400.
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:
Spiny Norman said:Righto. It depends on what the bed surface is coated with. With PEI you typically don’t need anything.
FWIW Klipper also does bed height and much, much more.
Oh, and FWIW I bought a brand-new Bambu Labs A1.
Farken brilliant bit of gear. Very affordable, reliable, and good quality.
Way kewlies.😁😎 I need the bigger build plate of the Creality. 300 * 300 * 400.
Nice.
Can’t wait to get my big CoreXY up & running, it’ll do a 500mm cube.

Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:Righto. It depends on what the bed surface is coated with. With PEI you typically don’t need anything.
FWIW Klipper also does bed height and much, much more.
I’ll look at Klipper once I get the Raspberry Pi plugged in and working. The USB port on the Creailty is wired for a Creality camera only. (via Creality Cloud Print) I’ve got to switch some plugs around on boards inside the printer to get a proper USB connection. Can always swap between Octopirnt/Klipper by swapping in/out the SD card on the Raspberry Pi.
Yep. Pretty easy to do.
Temu. 512GB SD cards. $2.71 ea yesterday. I ordered a few. Along with the Raspberry Pi. SD Cards are $9.75 today. Still a bargain at that price. TEMU SD CARD
Raspberry Pi 3B+ was $62. For some reason, $146 today. here
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:Oh, and FWIW I bought a brand-new Bambu Labs A1.
Farken brilliant bit of gear. Very affordable, reliable, and good quality.
Way kewlies.😁😎 I need the bigger build plate of the Creality. 300 * 300 * 400.
Nice.
Can’t wait to get my big CoreXY up & running, it’ll do a 500mm cube.
Even kewlier!!! 😁😎
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:I’ll look at Klipper once I get the Raspberry Pi plugged in and working. The USB port on the Creailty is wired for a Creality camera only. (via Creality Cloud Print) I’ve got to switch some plugs around on boards inside the printer to get a proper USB connection. Can always swap between Octopirnt/Klipper by swapping in/out the SD card on the Raspberry Pi.
Yep. Pretty easy to do.
Temu. 512GB SD cards. $2.71 ea yesterday. I ordered a few.
Sorry mate, you got ripped-off. A decent 521gb card is going to cost 20 – 30 times that much. For example I recently bought a 521gb microsd card, the cheapest one from a reliable seller I could find was $64.
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:Yep. Pretty easy to do.
Temu. 512GB SD cards. $2.71 ea yesterday. I ordered a few.
Sorry mate, you got ripped-off. A decent 521gb card is going to cost 20 – 30 times that much. For example I recently bought a 521gb microsd card, the cheapest one from a reliable seller I could find was $64.
I’ve got them before, Mr Norman. They’re fine. I’ve got them in the GoPro, Dashcam, car Satnav and drones. A lot of SD Card devices only support FAT32 which only goes to 32GB, and Windows only formats FAT32 to 32GB on a 512GB SD card, however GUIformat will format FAT32 to 512GB and it’s all usable.
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:Temu. 512GB SD cards. $2.71 ea yesterday. I ordered a few.
Sorry mate, you got ripped-off. A decent 521gb card is going to cost 20 – 30 times that much. For example I recently bought a 521gb microsd card, the cheapest one from a reliable seller I could find was $64.
I’ve got them before, Mr Norman. They’re fine. I’ve got them in the GoPro, Dashcam, car Satnav and drones. A lot of SD Card devices only support FAT32 which only goes to 32GB, and Windows only formats FAT32 to 32GB on a 512GB SD card, however GUIformat will format FAT32 to 512GB and it’s all usable.
Yeah using the NTFS format also works. Have you actually filled one with 512gb of data though?
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:Sorry mate, you got ripped-off. A decent 521gb card is going to cost 20 – 30 times that much. For example I recently bought a 521gb microsd card, the cheapest one from a reliable seller I could find was $64.
I’ve got them before, Mr Norman. They’re fine. I’ve got them in the GoPro, Dashcam, car Satnav and drones. A lot of SD Card devices only support FAT32 which only goes to 32GB, and Windows only formats FAT32 to 32GB on a 512GB SD card, however GUIformat will format FAT32 to 512GB and it’s all usable.
Yeah using the NTFS format also works. Have you actually filled one with 512gb of data though?
The drones, Satnav and Dashcam etc don’t support NTFS. Doesn’t recognise the SDCard with NTFS SD card. I dumped about 60GB off the pooter hard drive onto one formatted as FAT32. It didn’t complain. Windows “properties” show it as 512GB when formatted as FAT32.
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:I’ve got them before, Mr Norman. They’re fine. I’ve got them in the GoPro, Dashcam, car Satnav and drones. A lot of SD Card devices only support FAT32 which only goes to 32GB, and Windows only formats FAT32 to 32GB on a 512GB SD card, however GUIformat will format FAT32 to 512GB and it’s all usable.
Yeah using the NTFS format also works. Have you actually filled one with 512gb of data though?
The drones, Satnav and Dashcam etc don’t support NTFS. Doesn’t recognise the SDCard with NTFS SD card. I dumped about 60GB off the pooter hard drive onto one formatted as FAT32. It didn’t complain. Windows “properties” show it as 512GB when formatted as FAT32.
Righto. I’m still rather dubious though sorry.
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:Yeah using the NTFS format also works. Have you actually filled one with 512gb of data though?
The drones, Satnav and Dashcam etc don’t support NTFS. Doesn’t recognise the SDCard with NTFS SD card. I dumped about 60GB off the pooter hard drive onto one formatted as FAT32. It didn’t complain. Windows “properties” show it as 512GB when formatted as FAT32.
Righto. I’m still rather dubious though sorry.
They may play up in the long run, I don’t know. But yet to have any issues. and for $2.70……. well.
I’m off. Gotta go for a walk and check the mail box.
Birth Certificate should be here today, so I can finalise my OAP application.
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:The drones, Satnav and Dashcam etc don’t support NTFS. Doesn’t recognise the SDCard with NTFS SD card. I dumped about 60GB off the pooter hard drive onto one formatted as FAT32. It didn’t complain. Windows “properties” show it as 512GB when formatted as FAT32.
Righto. I’m still rather dubious though sorry.
They may play up in the long run, I don’t know. But yet to have any issues. and for $2.70……. well.
Do they have a brand name on them?
I find that micro SD cards only last about 3 or 4 months in the dashcam before chucking the occasional faulty read/write.
Woodie said:
I’m off. Gotta go for a walk and check the mail box.Birth Certificate should be here today, so I can finalise my OAP application.
Goodo. They’re not likely to grant you an OAP until you’re at least born.
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
The drones, Satnav and Dashcam etc don’t support NTFS. Doesn’t recognise the SDCard with NTFS SD card. I dumped about 60GB off the pooter hard drive onto one formatted as FAT32. It didn’t complain. Windows “properties” show it as 512GB when formatted as FAT32.
Righto. I’m still rather dubious though sorry.
They may play up in the long run, I don’t know. But yet to have any issues. and for $2.70……. well.
it was like 10 years ago so correspondingly smaller capacities but our associates who obtained something like this told us they discovered that the interface reported the full claimed capacity but on using them they ended up overwriting the actual 1% capacity 100 times
Kingy said:
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:Righto. I’m still rather dubious though sorry.
They may play up in the long run, I don’t know. But yet to have any issues. and for $2.70……. well.
Do they have a brand name on them?
I find that micro SD cards only last about 3 or 4 months in the dashcam before chucking the occasional faulty read/write.
Kingy said:
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:Righto. I’m still rather dubious though sorry.
They may play up in the long run, I don’t know. But yet to have any issues. and for $2.70……. well.
Do they have a brand name on them?
I find that micro SD cards only last about 3 or 4 months in the dashcam before chucking the occasional faulty read/write.
My last 2 satnavs gave up the ghost. Both had the internal batteries fail, and touchscreen. They didn’t have SD cards. Reckon it was the heat on the dashboard when in the sun that did it.
New one I got here is brilliant. $83. has SD card for muso/videos etc. Far superior to the $320 Navman I had before.
I now cover them up when leaving the car in the sun.
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
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A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
Not that surprising really, even the Incas had cola.
i’m having a skepticism, a skeptasm
buffy said:
I see birds have been under discussion here. I like this photo (not mine, taken from iNaturalist) of a tawny frogmouth at Blackburn Lake Sanctuary in Melbourne. It’s like…nothing to see here…it’s just a bunch of sticks in a tree…you can’t see me at all. This bird has been sitting for quite some time now, it must be nearly hatching time.
tree’s trying to hide behind that frogmouth, i’m not fooled, I can see’t
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
I’m off. Gotta go for a walk and check the mail box.Birth Certificate should be here today, so I can finalise my OAP application.
Goodo. They’re not likely to grant you an OAP until you’re at least born.
Birth Cert has turned up. So better get on to the Centrelink website and complete the application.
Pulled the house apart to try and find the original birth certificate, and house title deeds and old passports etc to use. Looked behind the fridge, in the washing machine and down the back of the couch and everywhere else!! The only thing I found was an old passport. (too old to use). No birth certificate, and finally found the house title deeds at the solicitors I used 22 years ago when buying the property!!
SCIENCE said:
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:
Righto. I’m still rather dubious though sorry.
They may play up in the long run, I don’t know. But yet to have any issues. and for $2.70……. well.
it was like 10 years ago so correspondingly smaller capacities but our associates who obtained something like this told us they discovered that the interface reported the full claimed capacity but on using them they ended up overwriting the actual 1% capacity 100 times
10 years ago, I doubt there was an SD Card with 32GB capacity, (more like 8GB – 16GB max) let alone 512GB.
Woodie said:
Kingy said:
Woodie said:They may play up in the long run, I don’t know. But yet to have any issues. and for $2.70……. well.
Do they have a brand name on them?
I find that micro SD cards only last about 3 or 4 months in the dashcam before chucking the occasional faulty read/write.
My last 2 satnavs gave up the ghost. Both had the internal batteries fail, and touchscreen. They didn’t have SD cards. Reckon it was the heat on the dashboard when in the sun that did it.
New one I got here is brilliant. $83. has SD card for muso/videos etc. Far superior to the $320 Navman I had before.
I now cover them up when leaving the car in the sun.
Noice.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
I’m off. Gotta go for a walk and check the mail box.Birth Certificate should be here today, so I can finalise my OAP application.
Goodo. They’re not likely to grant you an OAP until you’re at least born.
Birth Cert has turned up. So better get on to the Centrelink website and complete the application.
Pulled the house apart to try and find the original birth certificate, and house title deeds and old passports etc to use. Looked behind the fridge, in the washing machine and down the back of the couch and everywhere else!! The only thing I found was an old passport. (too old to use). No birth certificate, and finally found the house title deeds at the solicitors I used 22 years ago when buying the property!!
I don’t have a proper birth certificate, I think simply because my parents didn’t register my birth. I was born at home and the only birth certificate my parents were able to find for me when I asked for it was one issued by the Ukrainian church, which has no legal standing.
It was often a problem but I haven’t been asked to furnish such ID for a long time.
Woodie said:
Kingy said:
Woodie said:They may play up in the long run, I don’t know. But yet to have any issues. and for $2.70……. well.
Do they have a brand name on them?
I find that micro SD cards only last about 3 or 4 months in the dashcam before chucking the occasional faulty read/write.
My last 2 satnavs gave up the ghost. Both had the internal batteries fail, and touchscreen. They didn’t have SD cards. Reckon it was the heat on the dashboard when in the sun that did it.
New one I got here is brilliant. $83. has SD card for muso/videos etc. Far superior to the $320 Navman I had before.
I now cover them up when leaving the car in the sun.
I meant the SD cards. Are they Samsung, SanDisk, Hooflungdung?
A couple of bucks each would barely cover postage.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Kingy said:Do they have a brand name on them?
I find that micro SD cards only last about 3 or 4 months in the dashcam before chucking the occasional faulty read/write.
My last 2 satnavs gave up the ghost. Both had the internal batteries fail, and touchscreen. They didn’t have SD cards. Reckon it was the heat on the dashboard when in the sun that did it.
New one I got here is brilliant. $83. has SD card for muso/videos etc. Far superior to the $320 Navman I had before.
I now cover them up when leaving the car in the sun.
Noice.
Wanna play muso in the car, Mr V? Just pick your FM frequency on the car radio, set the FM freq in the Satnav and voila. A nice Satnav touchscreen to play your muso from the SD card.
Kingy said:
Woodie said:
Kingy said:Do they have a brand name on them?
I find that micro SD cards only last about 3 or 4 months in the dashcam before chucking the occasional faulty read/write.
My last 2 satnavs gave up the ghost. Both had the internal batteries fail, and touchscreen. They didn’t have SD cards. Reckon it was the heat on the dashboard when in the sun that did it.
New one I got here is brilliant. $83. has SD card for muso/videos etc. Far superior to the $320 Navman I had before.
I now cover them up when leaving the car in the sun.
I meant the SD cards. Are they Samsung, SanDisk, Hooflungdung?
A couple of bucks each would barely cover postage.
these ones Mr Kingy.
Minimum $40 order on Temu for free postage. All from China.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:My last 2 satnavs gave up the ghost. Both had the internal batteries fail, and touchscreen. They didn’t have SD cards. Reckon it was the heat on the dashboard when in the sun that did it.
New one I got here is brilliant. $83. has SD card for muso/videos etc. Far superior to the $320 Navman I had before.
I now cover them up when leaving the car in the sun.
Noice.
Wanna play muso in the car, Mr V? Just pick your FM frequency on the car radio, set the FM freq in the Satnav and voila. A nice Satnav touchscreen to play your muso from the SD card.
FWIW I have one of these in the car. I plug as USB stick into it (actually a microsd card reader with a 64gb card in it) and there’s a few hundred songs on it. So it rarely repeats and I don’t have to listen to adverts.
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Noice.
Wanna play muso in the car, Mr V? Just pick your FM frequency on the car radio, set the FM freq in the Satnav and voila. A nice Satnav touchscreen to play your muso from the SD card.
FWIW I have one of these in the car. I plug as USB stick into it (actually a microsd card reader with a 64gb card in it) and there’s a few hundred songs on it. So it rarely repeats and I don’t have to listen to adverts.
kewlies. 😁 Boys and our toys, hey what but!!
Now to get this 3D printer cranked up again for a 7 day 10 hour 9 min 1041g 349 m filament’s worth of print.
Hush hush what it is just yet, in case it all goes down the gurgler.
Woodie said:
Now to get this 3D printer cranked up again for a 7 day 10 hour 9 min 1041g 349 m filament’s worth of print.Hush hush what it is just yet, in case it all goes down the gurgler.
Something pretty sizeable.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:My last 2 satnavs gave up the ghost. Both had the internal batteries fail, and touchscreen. They didn’t have SD cards. Reckon it was the heat on the dashboard when in the sun that did it.
New one I got here is brilliant. $83. has SD card for muso/videos etc. Far superior to the $320 Navman I had before.
I now cover them up when leaving the car in the sun.
Noice.
Wanna play muso in the car, Mr V? Just pick your FM frequency on the car radio, set the FM freq in the Satnav and voila. A nice Satnav touchscreen to play your muso from the SD card.
:)
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Noice.
Wanna play muso in the car, Mr V? Just pick your FM frequency on the car radio, set the FM freq in the Satnav and voila. A nice Satnav touchscreen to play your muso from the SD card.
:)
much more accurate than the old ones too. Directions to my place are the actual house, not just the front gate. Albeit Google Maps on the phone does the same thing.
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:Wanna play muso in the car, Mr V? Just pick your FM frequency on the car radio, set the FM freq in the Satnav and voila. A nice Satnav touchscreen to play your muso from the SD card.
FWIW I have one of these in the car. I plug as USB stick into it (actually a microsd card reader with a 64gb card in it) and there’s a few hundred songs on it. So it rarely repeats and I don’t have to listen to adverts.
kewlies. 😁 Boys and our toys, hey what but!!
I used to have something like that years ago. Not as cheap and it didn’t have bluetooth.
Woodie said:
Now to get this 3D printer cranked up again for a 7 day 10 hour 9 min 1041g 349 m filament’s worth of print.Hush hush what it is just yet, in case it all goes down the gurgler.
That’s a heck of a long print! Does your printer have filament run-out detection? Or are you using a 3kg (?) spool?
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:Wanna play muso in the car, Mr V? Just pick your FM frequency on the car radio, set the FM freq in the Satnav and voila. A nice Satnav touchscreen to play your muso from the SD card.
:)
much more accurate than the old ones too. Directions to my place are the actual house, not just the front gate. Albeit Google Maps on the phone does the same thing.
At that price, it is probably worth me buying one.
BTW, Google maps doesn’t join the Lions Road at the border.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:FWIW I have one of these in the car. I plug as USB stick into it (actually a microsd card reader with a 64gb card in it) and there’s a few hundred songs on it. So it rarely repeats and I don’t have to listen to adverts.
kewlies. 😁 Boys and our toys, hey what but!!
I used to have something like that years ago. Not as cheap and it didn’t have bluetooth.
I used to use an even cheaper one, but it interfered with the GPS in the car so the nav system in it wouldn’t lock-on. Had to unplug the gadget to navigate – so that didn’t last very long.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said::)
much more accurate than the old ones too. Directions to my place are the actual house, not just the front gate. Albeit Google Maps on the phone does the same thing.
At that price, it is probably worth me buying one.
BTW, Google maps doesn’t join the Lions Road at the border.
More nerd/geek stuff I have then.
I run Sygic on my phone to navigate around. It’s not free but it’s a once-off purchase and the benefit is that the maps you want to use are downloaded into the phone, so no network connection is needed. I have all of Australia and New Zealand in my phone.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=sygic&c=apps
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:
Woodie said:
They may play up in the long run, I don’t know. But yet to have any issues. and for $2.70……. well.
it was like 10 years ago so correspondingly smaller capacities but our associates who obtained something like this told us they discovered that the interface reported the full claimed capacity but on using them they ended up overwriting the actual 1% capacity 100 times
10 years ago, I doubt there was an SD Card with 32GB capacity, (more like 8GB – 16GB max) let alone 512GB.
yeah agreed we think they were like supposedly 8 GB but only held 500 MB, we exaggerated a bit but within engineering order
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:Woodie said:
They may play up in the long run, I don’t know. But yet to have any issues. and for $2.70……. well.
it was like 10 years ago so correspondingly smaller capacities but our associates who obtained something like this told us they discovered that the interface reported the full claimed capacity but on using them they ended up overwriting the actual 1% capacity 100 times
10 years ago, I doubt there was an SD Card with 32GB capacity, (more like 8GB – 16GB max) let alone 512GB.
I thought that such cards had been around for a long time, and wikipedia says that 32gb cards came out in 2009, and 64gb cards a year later.
I finally bit the bullet and caved in and got a new printer for home. I ended dup with a Canon (a change from my usually Epson printer purchases) but it was the better one of the two brands of that version, after I factored in the costs of the inks as well….
now I have a printer that has the potential to be fixed, but I can’t be bothered with it, so I will leave out for the birds to nest in…
Arts said:
I finally bit the bullet and caved in and got a new printer for home. I ended dup with a Canon (a change from my usually Epson printer purchases) but it was the better one of the two brands of that version, after I factored in the costs of the inks as well….now I have a printer that has the potential to be fixed, but I can’t be bothered with it, so I will leave out for the birds to nest in…
did you have success with the 3D printer?
Woodie said:
Now to get this 3D printer cranked up again for a 7 day 10 hour 9 min 1041g 349 m filament’s worth of print.Hush hush what it is just yet, in case it all goes down the gurgler.
Is that the new name for the dam?
buffy said:
Woodie said:
Now to get this 3D printer cranked up again for a 7 day 10 hour 9 min 1041g 349 m filament’s worth of print.Hush hush what it is just yet, in case it all goes down the gurgler.
Is that the new name for the dam?
I suggest that the new name for the dam be ‘storage’.
So that, when asked about the status of a device, Woodie can declare it to be ‘in storage’.
Spiny Norman said:
Woodie said:
Now to get this 3D printer cranked up again for a 7 day 10 hour 9 min 1041g 349 m filament’s worth of print.Hush hush what it is just yet, in case it all goes down the gurgler.
That’s a heck of a long print! Does your printer have filament run-out detection? Or are you using a 3kg (?) spool?
219mm * 216mm * 360mm for the print, using default speeds and line height and 0.4 nozzle. Says it will use 1041 grams of PLA filament. Yes. It does have runout detection, automatically retracts, feed in new filament and away you go. When the nozzle returns to print point, it’s just a teensie bit off, but next layer returns to normal. So I get a layer line when I pause, or change filament. Yet to work out why. Gunna use a fresh 1kg roll, for 1041 grams it says.
Just finished the last bit of that 400sqm of mowing as it got too dark to see.
buffy said:
I see birds have been under discussion here. I like this photo (not mine, taken from iNaturalist) of a tawny frogmouth at Blackburn Lake Sanctuary in Melbourne. It’s like…nothing to see here…it’s just a bunch of sticks in a tree…you can’t see me at all. This bird has been sitting for quite some time now, it must be nearly hatching time.
There’s a nest around here somewhere. I just have to find it.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
Nah.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said::)
much more accurate than the old ones too. Directions to my place are the actual house, not just the front gate. Albeit Google Maps on the phone does the same thing.
At that price, it is probably worth me buying one.
BTW, Google maps doesn’t join the Lions Road at the border.
I’ll show you when next up for a visit. My old one hooked into the traffic management texting system on freeways etc in big cities. Would tell you when/where there was any delays and how long on freeways etc. Dunno if the new one does that, until I go driving in the big smoke.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
Fake! There’s a hole in the top, but the ring has not been pulled.
They invented the sliding lid closer.
Nasty neighbour boys have been throwing food over the hedge into my place. Found two packets of crackers strewn over the courtyard today.
I assume they were given a packet each in lieu of a proper meal, decided they didn’t want them and just threw them over the hedge.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
But why?
Coz if it isn’t on facebook, it didn’t happen.
Jeez. That means I’ve never existed.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
Fake! There’s a hole in the top, but the ring has not been pulled.
They invented the sliding lid closer.
The ancients, they knew.
Interesting story.
Arts said:
I finally bit the bullet and caved in and got a new printer for home. I ended dup with a Canon (a change from my usually Epson printer purchases) but it was the better one of the two brands of that version, after I factored in the costs of the inks as well….now I have a printer that has the potential to be fixed, but I can’t be bothered with it, so I will leave out for the birds to nest in…
You don’t have a dam, Aunty Arts?
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:some are saying that humans have always disbelieved the evidence. that isn’t the point and it was actually covered. the point is is that these days it is far easier to get the evidence. but people don’t. I see it everyday on the FB feeds I get.
OK, but it says:
“And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely.”
… but that really wasn’t something else happening, it was what had always happened continuing to happen, even though it was even easier to check stuff.
I think you need to reread DVs post. but to help I say this. Years ago, before the internet, people may not have changed their minds with presented evidence, but they probably would, and no, not in all cases. Just that the evidence was harder to get. these days it isn’t, yet people, not all people but a lot, just downright don’t believe even with concrete evidence.
If only we could give Trump concrete shoes. Then he coudn’t be believed even with concrete evidence.
Woodie said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
About 30 years ago you could be having a conversation with something and say something like “but meat makes up about 2 to 3% of the diet of a chimpanzee” and they might say they straight don’t believe it, and unless you had a copy of the journal article right in front of you that would be about it.Then the information revolution happened and pretty soon you could pull up nearly every journal article ever published on a device that fit in your pocket so you could back up what you were saying instantly.
And then more recently something else happened so that people just ignore any kind of evidence and are happy to continue to be wrong indefinitely. A chimp could be eating meat right in front of them and they would just say that it is not happening.
A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
I could 3D print one of those.
But could you print the patina?
buffy said:
Woodie said:
Now to get this 3D printer cranked up again for a 7 day 10 hour 9 min 1041g 349 m filament’s worth of print.Hush hush what it is just yet, in case it all goes down the gurgler.
Is that the new name for the dam?
I have a medium sized wheelie bin full of failed prints. If they all went in the dam, they’d float.
Kingy said:
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:Righto. I’m still rather dubious though sorry.
They may play up in the long run, I don’t know. But yet to have any issues. and for $2.70……. well.
Do they have a brand name on them?
I find that micro SD cards only last about 3 or 4 months in the dashcam before chucking the occasional faulty read/write.
That could be the constant heat.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Woodie said:
Now to get this 3D printer cranked up again for a 7 day 10 hour 9 min 1041g 349 m filament’s worth of print.Hush hush what it is just yet, in case it all goes down the gurgler.
Is that the new name for the dam?
I suggest that the new name for the dam be ‘storage’.
So that, when asked about the status of a device, Woodie can declare it to be ‘in storage’.
If it was someone else’s dam, I could call it “off site storage”. 😁
roughbarked said:
Kingy said:
Woodie said:They may play up in the long run, I don’t know. But yet to have any issues. and for $2.70……. well.
Do they have a brand name on them?
I find that micro SD cards only last about 3 or 4 months in the dashcam before chucking the occasional faulty read/write.
That could be the constant heat.
I wonder if there isn’t a lot of stray radio frequency radiation coming from the ignition system as well, which might take a toll on the unshielded SD cards?
roughbarked said:
Just finished the last bit of that 400sqm of mowing as it got too dark to see.
400 sqm isn’t much, Mr Barked. Sure you didn’t mean 400 metres squared?
Bubblecar said:
Nasty neighbour boys have been throwing food over the hedge into my place. Found two packets of crackers strewn over the courtyard today.I assume they were given a packet each in lieu of a proper meal, decided they didn’t want them and just threw them over the hedge.
Better pick them up. They’ll make the birds ill.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Kingy said:Do they have a brand name on them?
I find that micro SD cards only last about 3 or 4 months in the dashcam before chucking the occasional faulty read/write.
That could be the constant heat.
I wonder if there isn’t a lot of stray radio frequency radiation coming from the ignition system as well, which might take a toll on the unshielded SD cards?
I presume that’s plausible.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Nasty neighbour boys have been throwing food over the hedge into my place. Found two packets of crackers strewn over the courtyard today.I assume they were given a packet each in lieu of a proper meal, decided they didn’t want them and just threw them over the hedge.
Better pick them up. They’ll make the birds ill.
No wonder the boys threw them away. What would make a magpie sick…
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Kingy said:Do they have a brand name on them?
I find that micro SD cards only last about 3 or 4 months in the dashcam before chucking the occasional faulty read/write.
That could be the constant heat.
I wonder if there isn’t a lot of stray radio frequency radiation coming from the ignition system as well, which might take a toll on the unshielded SD cards?
Nah.
Bubblecar said:
Nasty neighbour boys have been throwing food over the hedge into my place. Found two packets of crackers strewn over the courtyard today.I assume they were given a packet each in lieu of a proper meal, decided they didn’t want them and just threw them over the hedge.
That means you can cross packets of crackers off you Coles list now.
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:That could be the constant heat.
I wonder if there isn’t a lot of stray radio frequency radiation coming from the ignition system as well, which might take a toll on the unshielded SD cards?
Nah.
Just a thought.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Just finished the last bit of that 400sqm of mowing as it got too dark to see.
400 sqm isn’t much, Mr Barked. Sure you didn’t mean 400 metres squared?
It is just the bit along one fence that is a firebreak. It only took me an hour with the walk behind standard mower It is at least 100 metres x 4 < 5m strip.
There’s a lot more to mow and it is all by push mower.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
Bogsnorkler said:
A can of beverage was found during the excavation of a
Pharaoh’s tomb from the ancient Egyptian civilization
over 3,000 years ago.
I could 3D print one of those.
But could you print the patina?
you can get paints for that.
Now that i think about it, magnetic-tape cassettes in cars weren’t/aren’t damaged by ‘stray RF’, are they?
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:That could be the constant heat.
I wonder if there isn’t a lot of stray radio frequency radiation coming from the ignition system as well, which might take a toll on the unshielded SD cards?
Nah.
I’ll expand on that …
The old ignition systems used to use a single high-voltage coil that directed the spark through a distributor then down the plug leads to the plugs. Plenty of opportunity for electrical noise there. Modern cars just send a signal from the engine computer to a small ignitor unit that sits on the side of a very small coil that pretty much just sits on the top of the spark plugs. So one coil per cylinder, and no real electrical noise outside the plug areas.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Just finished the last bit of that 400sqm of mowing as it got too dark to see.
400 sqm isn’t much, Mr Barked. Sure you didn’t mean 400 metres squared?
It is just the bit along one fence that is a firebreak. It only took me an hour with the walk behind standard mower It is at least 100 metres x 4 < 5m strip.
There’s a lot more to mow and it is all by push mower.
and it is all very dusty, dry barley grass and mustard weed in seed. I put it all in the catcher and thence to composting heaps.
Spiny Norman said:
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:I wonder if there isn’t a lot of stray radio frequency radiation coming from the ignition system as well, which might take a toll on the unshielded SD cards?
Nah.
I’ll expand on that …
The old ignition systems used to use a single high-voltage coil that directed the spark through a distributor then down the plug leads to the plugs. Plenty of opportunity for electrical noise there. Modern cars just send a signal from the engine computer to a small ignitor unit that sits on the side of a very small coil that pretty much just sits on the top of the spark plugs. So one coil per cylinder, and no real electrical noise outside the plug areas.
Progress marches on.
captain_spalding said:
Now that i think about it, magnetic-tape cassettes in cars weren’t/aren’t damaged by ‘stray RF’, are they?
Mostly tangled up and got tossed out the window.
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
Spiny Norman said:Nah.
I’ll expand on that …
The old ignition systems used to use a single high-voltage coil that directed the spark through a distributor then down the plug leads to the plugs. Plenty of opportunity for electrical noise there. Modern cars just send a signal from the engine computer to a small ignitor unit that sits on the side of a very small coil that pretty much just sits on the top of the spark plugs. So one coil per cylinder, and no real electrical noise outside the plug areas.
Progress marches on.
No spark plugs in my car.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Just finished the last bit of that 400sqm of mowing as it got too dark to see.
400 sqm isn’t much, Mr Barked. Sure you didn’t mean 400 metres squared?
It is just the bit along one fence that is a firebreak. It only took me an hour with the walk behind standard mower It is at least 100 metres x 4 < 5m strip.
There’s a lot more to mow and it is all by push mower.
Push mower? What is one of them? I ride on The Lady Toro. May God bless her and all who mow in her. 😁
Spiny Norman said:
The old ignition systems used to use a single high-voltage coil that directed the spark through a distributor then down the plug leads to the plugs.
My dad told me about an anti-car-theft device employed by him and his mates, in his rambunctious youth.
While i forget most of the technical details, the broad outline was this:
when they and ‘the girls’ would e.g. go to the beach, they’d park the cars nose-to-tail (you could find enough space at the beach for that, in those days), with the bumper bars just touching.
One or more of the cars had a ‘trembler coil’, linked to the body work, and when it was ‘armed’, if someone tried to open the door of any of the cars, they’d get an electrical jolt such as would cause them to most seriously question the wisdom of further attempts at entry.
Of course, these days, you’d be in court on umpteen different charges of endangering public safety if you did something like that, but it was a different era.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Just finished the last bit of that 400sqm of mowing as it got too dark to see.
400 sqm isn’t much, Mr Barked. Sure you didn’t mean 400 metres squared?
It is just the bit along one fence that is a firebreak. It only took me an hour with the walk behind standard mower It is at least 100 metres x 4 < 5m strip.
There’s a lot more to mow and it is all by push mower.
4000000000 m^2 of mowing

roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
I’ll expand on that …
The old ignition systems used to use a single high-voltage coil that directed the spark through a distributor then down the plug leads to the plugs. Plenty of opportunity for electrical noise there. Modern cars just send a signal from the engine computer to a small ignitor unit that sits on the side of a very small coil that pretty much just sits on the top of the spark plugs. So one coil per cylinder, and no real electrical noise outside the plug areas.
Progress marches on.
No spark plugs in my car.
¿ horseback is progress ?
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Nasty neighbour boys have been throwing food over the hedge into my place. Found two packets of crackers strewn over the courtyard today.I assume they were given a packet each in lieu of a proper meal, decided they didn’t want them and just threw them over the hedge.
Better pick them up. They’ll make the birds ill.
I’ve chucked most of them in the wheely bin, just a few to clean up tomorrow.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:I’ll expand on that …
The old ignition systems used to use a single high-voltage coil that directed the spark through a distributor then down the plug leads to the plugs. Plenty of opportunity for electrical noise there. Modern cars just send a signal from the engine computer to a small ignitor unit that sits on the side of a very small coil that pretty much just sits on the top of the spark plugs. So one coil per cylinder, and no real electrical noise outside the plug areas.
Progress marches on.
No spark plugs in my car.
Youtube: Cat D4 (diesel) comes to the rescue (1 min 14 sec)
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
The old ignition systems used to use a single high-voltage coil that directed the spark through a distributor then down the plug leads to the plugs.
My dad told me about an anti-car-theft device employed by him and his mates, in his rambunctious youth.
While i forget most of the technical details, the broad outline was this:
when they and ‘the girls’ would e.g. go to the beach, they’d park the cars nose-to-tail (you could find enough space at the beach for that, in those days), with the bumper bars just touching.
One or more of the cars had a ‘trembler coil’, linked to the body work, and when it was ‘armed’, if someone tried to open the door of any of the cars, they’d get an electrical jolt such as would cause them to most seriously question the wisdom of further attempts at entry.
Of course, these days, you’d be in court on umpteen different charges of endangering public safety if you did something like that, but it was a different era.
Time to retire to the living room with The Dictionary of Lost Words and a mug of cocoa.
Bubblecar said:
Time to retire to the living room with The Dictionary of Lost Words and a mug of cocoa.
I never pictured you drinking out of a mug :)
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:The old ignition systems used to use a single high-voltage coil that directed the spark through a distributor then down the plug leads to the plugs.
My dad told me about an anti-car-theft device employed by him and his mates, in his rambunctious youth.
While i forget most of the technical details, the broad outline was this:
when they and ‘the girls’ would e.g. go to the beach, they’d park the cars nose-to-tail (you could find enough space at the beach for that, in those days), with the bumper bars just touching.
One or more of the cars had a ‘trembler coil’, linked to the body work, and when it was ‘armed’, if someone tried to open the door of any of the cars, they’d get an electrical jolt such as would cause them to most seriously question the wisdom of further attempts at entry.
Of course, these days, you’d be in court on umpteen different charges of endangering public safety if you did something like that, but it was a different era.
It’s still done on rare occasions.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Time to retire to the living room with The Dictionary of Lost Words and a mug of cocoa.
I never pictured you drinking out of a mug :)
Cocoa is most definitely a ‘mug’ drink.
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:The old ignition systems used to use a single high-voltage coil that directed the spark through a distributor then down the plug leads to the plugs.
My dad told me about an anti-car-theft device employed by him and his mates, in his rambunctious youth.
While i forget most of the technical details, the broad outline was this:
when they and ‘the girls’ would e.g. go to the beach, they’d park the cars nose-to-tail (you could find enough space at the beach for that, in those days), with the bumper bars just touching.
One or more of the cars had a ‘trembler coil’, linked to the body work, and when it was ‘armed’, if someone tried to open the door of any of the cars, they’d get an electrical jolt such as would cause them to most seriously question the wisdom of further attempts at entry.
Of course, these days, you’d be in court on umpteen different charges of endangering public safety if you did something like that, but it was a different era.
It’s still done on rare occasions.
The ancients, they knew.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:400 sqm isn’t much, Mr Barked. Sure you didn’t mean 400 metres squared?
It is just the bit along one fence that is a firebreak. It only took me an hour with the walk behind standard mower It is at least 100 metres x 4 < 5m strip.
There’s a lot more to mow and it is all by push mower.
Push mower? What is one of them? I ride on The Lady Toro. May God bless her and all who mow in her. 😁
There’s not a blade of kikuyu here.
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
I finally bit the bullet and caved in and got a new printer for home. I ended dup with a Canon (a change from my usually Epson printer purchases) but it was the better one of the two brands of that version, after I factored in the costs of the inks as well….now I have a printer that has the potential to be fixed, but I can’t be bothered with it, so I will leave out for the birds to nest in…
did you have success with the 3D printer?
yes, it’s working well now :)
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees at the back door and it’s been steadily lightly raining since around midnight. We are forecast 12 degrees with rain easing.
Supermarketing this morning, but a bit later than usual because I am booked for a tetanus booster shot at 11.00am. Then archery late this afternoon. So it’s two trips into Hamilton today.
Morning all. 16 degrees and I recorded 2.2mm overnight.
Forecast for the rest of Wednesday
Summary Max 18 Rain. Chance of any rain: 95%
Cloudy. Very high chance of rain. Winds northerly 15 to 20 km/h tending northwesterly in the middle of the day then becoming light in the late afternoon.
They say we could get between 10 and 20mm. Not happening yet.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:400 sqm isn’t much, Mr Barked. Sure you didn’t mean 400 metres squared?
It is just the bit along one fence that is a firebreak. It only took me an hour with the walk behind standard mower It is at least 100 metres x 4 < 5m strip.
There’s a lot more to mow and it is all by push mower.
Push mower? What is one of them? I ride on The Lady Toro. May God bless her and all who mow in her. 😁
Actually paced it out this morning. It is actually 100 × 6m.
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
I finally bit the bullet and caved in and got a new printer for home. I ended dup with a Canon (a change from my usually Epson printer purchases) but it was the better one of the two brands of that version, after I factored in the costs of the inks as well….now I have a printer that has the potential to be fixed, but I can’t be bothered with it, so I will leave out for the birds to nest in…
did you have success with the 3D printer?
yes, it’s working well now :)
well done.
hears the flycatcher still out there
transition said:
hears the flycatcher still out there
in fact might be in the inner yard
Hello
Cymek said:
Hello
Max of 14 today but only 12 tomorrow with a min of -1. But on Saturday we’re heading for 18, so it’s a warm one for the grenfornal.
Right, off to do some mowering before the rain comes.
I do love semi retirement. Lots of pottering-about-in-the-garden time
I’m back, been tetanus jabbed and done the supermarketing. Bruna’s vet appointment tomorrow has been moved to 3.30 today, so we will be going back to Hamilton around 2.30. She can come to archery with us after vetting. That gives me a clear day tomorrow.
I made an appointment for tomorrow week to discuss my blood test results. I took the 8.00am one that was offered. Then it leaves my day nice and clear afterwards.
buffy said:
I’m back, been tetanus jabbed and done the supermarketing. Bruna’s vet appointment tomorrow has been moved to 3.30 today, so we will be going back to Hamilton around 2.30. She can come to archery with us after vetting. That gives me a clear day tomorrow.I made an appointment for tomorrow week to discuss my blood test results. I took the 8.00am one that was offered. Then it leaves my day nice and clear afterwards.
That’s an early start for a doctor.
I’m about to pack up and head down the mountain.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
I’m back, been tetanus jabbed and done the supermarketing. Bruna’s vet appointment tomorrow has been moved to 3.30 today, so we will be going back to Hamilton around 2.30. She can come to archery with us after vetting. That gives me a clear day tomorrow.I made an appointment for tomorrow week to discuss my blood test results. I took the 8.00am one that was offered. Then it leaves my day nice and clear afterwards.
That’s an early start for a doctor.
I thought so too, but I’m not complaining. I used to take my first consultation at 8.30am.

sarahs mum said:
I didn’t know there was a tsunami warning.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I didn’t know there was a tsunami warning.
me neither.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I didn’t know there was a tsunami warning.
me neither.
Ah well, it’s all over now :)
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:I didn’t know there was a tsunami warning.
me neither.
Ah well, it’s all over now :)
Just heard about it on the radio. Was apparently a system test.
I’ve just put the bin out and it’s not even windy out there.
Next: cup of tea, then hand-washing some navy blue trousers, ironing a floral shirt.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:I didn’t know there was a tsunami warning.
me neither.
Ah well, it’s all over now :)
Operative word: “TEST”.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:me neither.
Ah well, it’s all over now :)
Operative word: “TEST”.
It was too small to read in full.
Doing a roast chicken dinner tomorrow but I’ll follow Michael & Roughie’s example and get some mushrooms to go with it, from the IGA tomorrow.
Prefer to choose my own mushrooms as Coles often give me particularly grubby ones.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m about to pack up and head down the mountain.
BON VOYAGE!!!!

Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m about to pack up and head down the mountain.
BON VOYAGE!!!!
So do the Swannies have a real chance this Saturday, Woodie?
Wonder if she’ll be marketing The Erin Paterson Cookbook if she’s found not guilty.
Or indeed, if she’s found guilty.
Bubblecar said:
Wonder if she’ll be marketing The Erin Paterson Cookbook if she’s found not guilty.Or indeed, if she’s found guilty.
The latter probably wouldn’t be allowed as she’d arguably be “profiting from crime”.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m about to pack up and head down the mountain.
BON VOYAGE!!!!
So do the Swannies have a real chance this Saturday, Woodie?
I’m gunna tip ‘em, so yes. 🦢🦢🦢🦢🦢🦢
Will you be decked out in your Sunday best red and white?
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:me neither.
Ah well, it’s all over now :)
Operative word: “TEST”.
I could read it, but only just.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:BON VOYAGE!!!!
So do the Swannies have a real chance this Saturday, Woodie?
I’m gunna tip ‘em, so yes. 🦢🦢🦢🦢🦢🦢
Will you be decked out in your Sunday best red and white?
I’ll remain a neutral observer but I’ll be watching. I’ll stock up on beer & nibbles.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:me neither.
Ah well, it’s all over now :)
Just heard about it on the radio. Was apparently a system test.
so it works?
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:Ah well, it’s all over now :)
Just heard about it on the radio. Was apparently a system test.
so it works?
Apparently it does.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Just heard about it on the radio. Was apparently a system test.
so it works?
Apparently it does.
They left out the “alert the public” bit though.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:so it works?
Apparently it does.
They left out the “alert the public” bit though.
They didn’t need to tell me but those on Tassie coast should be alerted perhaps.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Ah well, it’s all over now :)
Operative word: “TEST”.
I could read it, but only just.
Must be them new spectacles of yours. 👓😎
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Operative word: “TEST”.
I could read it, but only just.
Must be them new spectacles of yours. 👓😎
Maybe.
We got to set up Home Detention anklets yesterday in case we need to do it for real.
Quite a bit of money involved with the units.
Cheaper though than prison when they aren’t sentenced prisoners.
Cymek said:
We got to set up Home Detention anklets yesterday in case we need to do it for real.Quite a bit of money involved with the units.
Cheaper though than prison when they aren’t sentenced prisoners.
long as not imported from rhymes with his tail, should be alright
FMD…… I’ll need to set a a Go-Fund-Me.
“Your claim for Age Pension was successfully submitted.
We expect to finalise your claim between 02 December 2024 and 09 December 2024.”
Ya reckon it’ll be back paid to this Sunday?
Woodie said:
FMD…… I’ll need to set a a Go-Fund-Me.“Your claim for Age Pension was successfully submitted.
We expect to finalise your claim between 02 December 2024 and 09 December 2024.”
Ya reckon it’ll be back paid to this Sunday?
Tell them you’re happy to finalise it yourself, free of charge.
Woodie said:
FMD…… I’ll need to set a a Go-Fund-Me.“Your claim for Age Pension was successfully submitted.
We expect to finalise your claim between 02 December 2024 and 09 December 2024.”
Ya reckon it’ll be back paid to this Sunday?
That used to be the practice. Back paid to date of lodgement of application. Dunno about now, but that’s how it was, way back.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
FMD…… I’ll need to set a a Go-Fund-Me.“Your claim for Age Pension was successfully submitted.
We expect to finalise your claim between 02 December 2024 and 09 December 2024.”
Ya reckon it’ll be back paid to this Sunday?
Tell them you’re happy to finalise it yourself, free of charge.
Had to go to Centrelink to finalise it today.
See? it’s me! See?
points to own face and photo on licence
points to face and pic……. forwards and backwards
See…. it’s me OK???
Any obs??? 😣
Internets say:
The main rule is that the Age Pension is backdated to either the day you lodged your application or the day you became eligible, whichever is the more recent of the two. Here’s how it works.
Day of lodgement
This differs depending upon the way that you apply. If you apply via Centrelink’s website (as Centrelink prefers), the claim is not considered lodged until the application questions are answered as well as all supporting documents have been provided. This makes sense because Centrelink doesn’t wish to waste time assessing claims that don’t have all the necessary supporting documents.
However, if you apply with Retirement Essentials or directly on your own behalf (by handing in a paper copy of the claim forms at a branch) then the day you submit your claim is considered the day of lodgement, even if you have zero supporting documents to go with the forms.
https://retirementessentials.com.au/news/centrelink-age-pension/how-the-age-pension-is-backdated/#:~:text=The%20main%20rule%20is%20that,more%20recent%20of%20the%20two.
Bubblecar said:
Internets say:The main rule is that the Age Pension is backdated to either the day you lodged your application or the day you became eligible, whichever is the more recent of the two. Here’s how it works.
Day of lodgement
This differs depending upon the way that you apply. If you apply via Centrelink’s website (as Centrelink prefers), the claim is not considered lodged until the application questions are answered as well as all supporting documents have been provided. This makes sense because Centrelink doesn’t wish to waste time assessing claims that don’t have all the necessary supporting documents.
However, if you apply with Retirement Essentials or directly on your own behalf (by handing in a paper copy of the claim forms at a branch) then the day you submit your claim is considered the day of lodgement, even if you have zero supporting documents to go with the forms.
https://retirementessentials.com.au/news/centrelink-age-pension/how-the-age-pension-is-backdated/#:~:text=The%20main%20rule%20is%20that,more%20recent%20of%20the%20two.
Kewlies. 😁 I’ll get a nice Chrissy present then.
Already got $3,300 back from the ATO on bringing my tax returns up to date as well. 😁.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Internets say:The main rule is that the Age Pension is backdated to either the day you lodged your application or the day you became eligible, whichever is the more recent of the two. Here’s how it works.
Day of lodgement
This differs depending upon the way that you apply. If you apply via Centrelink’s website (as Centrelink prefers), the claim is not considered lodged until the application questions are answered as well as all supporting documents have been provided. This makes sense because Centrelink doesn’t wish to waste time assessing claims that don’t have all the necessary supporting documents.
However, if you apply with Retirement Essentials or directly on your own behalf (by handing in a paper copy of the claim forms at a branch) then the day you submit your claim is considered the day of lodgement, even if you have zero supporting documents to go with the forms.
https://retirementessentials.com.au/news/centrelink-age-pension/how-the-age-pension-is-backdated/#:~:text=The%20main%20rule%20is%20that,more%20recent%20of%20the%20two.
Kewlies. 😁 I’ll get a nice Chrissy present then.
Already got $3,300 back from the ATO on bringing my tax returns up to date as well. 😁.
Goodo.
Bubblecar said:
Internets say:The main rule is that the Age Pension is backdated to either the day you lodged your application or the day you became eligible, whichever is the more recent of the two. Here’s how it works.
Day of lodgement
This differs depending upon the way that you apply. If you apply via Centrelink’s website (as Centrelink prefers), the claim is not considered lodged until the application questions are answered as well as all supporting documents have been provided. This makes sense because Centrelink doesn’t wish to waste time assessing claims that don’t have all the necessary supporting documents.
However, if you apply with Retirement Essentials or directly on your own behalf (by handing in a paper copy of the claim forms at a branch) then the day you submit your claim is considered the day of lodgement, even if you have zero supporting documents to go with the forms.
https://retirementessentials.com.au/news/centrelink-age-pension/how-the-age-pension-is-backdated/#:~:text=The%20main%20rule%20is%20that,more%20recent%20of%20the%20two.
I applied online. Email just received:
“Your claim has been submitted successfully. You can track the progress of your claim by signing in to myGov to access your Centrelink online account or use your Express Plus Centrelink mobile app. You can withdraw your claim at any time.”
This might be interesting, on SBS1 tonight.
The Great Killer Smog
Wednesday, 25 Sep
7:35 PM – 8:30 PM
ctc CC
In December 1952 one of the deadliest tragedies struck in London. A yellow smog smothered the city. Over two episodes, Doctor Xand Van Tulleken and Raksha Dave uncover the tragic events.
I’m back. We et yummy chicken kebab meat and a salad for tea. The Lebanese fellow who runs the shop is worried. He is from a village in the North of Lebanon. His family are Christians. Israeli jets are flying over the village.
buffy said:
This might be interesting, on SBS1 tonight.The Great Killer Smog
Wednesday, 25 Sep
7:35 PM – 8:30 PM
ctc CC
In December 1952 one of the deadliest tragedies struck in London. A yellow smog smothered the city. Over two episodes, Doctor Xand Van Tulleken and Raksha Dave uncover the tragic events.
Ta, I’ll have a peep at that.
buffy said:
I’m back. We et yummy chicken kebab meat and a salad for tea. The Lebanese fellow who runs the shop is worried. He is from a village in the North of Lebanon. His family are Christians. Israeli jets are flying over the village.
I’m thinking of having a kebab for lunch tomorrow from our kebab place, when I go out to do the local shopping.
Home is the hunter, home from the hill.
OK time now for my cocoa and reading in the living room, if I’m going to be watching the telly afterwards as well.
Bubblecar said:
OK time now for my cocoa and reading in the living room, if I’m going to be watching the telly afterwards as well.
I’m having a cup of tea and catching up with Fox news while listening to The Ride of the Valkyries.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
OK time now for my cocoa and reading in the living room, if I’m going to be watching the telly afterwards as well.
I’m having a cup of tea and catching up with Fox news while listening to The Ride of the Valkyries.
I’m a bit of a fan of Vagner.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
OK time now for my cocoa and reading in the living room, if I’m going to be watching the telly afterwards as well.
I’m having a cup of tea and catching up with Fox news while listening to The Ride of the Valkyries.
I’m a bit of a fan of Vagner.
blah to fox news.
When i worked for Centrelink, processing age pension claims could be very quick, indeed.
I distinctly recall interviewing some applicants in the morning, and, because their applications were properly completed, the necessary supporting docs provided, and their finance/assets situation was straightforward, their pension status would alter to ‘granted’ later that same day.
I’ll be up for my own Age Pension application in a matter of weeks.
captain_spalding said:
When i worked for Centrelink, processing age pension claims could be very quick, indeed.I distinctly recall interviewing some applicants in the morning, and, because their applications were properly completed, the necessary supporting docs provided, and their finance/assets situation was straightforward, their pension status would alter to ‘granted’ later that same day.
i remember being able to get a counter cheque.
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
When i worked for Centrelink, processing age pension claims could be very quick, indeed.I distinctly recall interviewing some applicants in the morning, and, because their applications were properly completed, the necessary supporting docs provided, and their finance/assets situation was straightforward, their pension status would alter to ‘granted’ later that same day.
i remember being able to get a counter cheque.
It was taking ages to process mine so I emailed my loc
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
When i worked for Centrelink, processing age pension claims could be very quick, indeed.I distinctly recall interviewing some applicants in the morning, and, because their applications were properly completed, the necessary supporting docs provided, and their finance/assets situation was straightforward, their pension status would alter to ‘granted’ later that same day.
i remember being able to get a counter cheque.
Yes, i was quite adept at preparing those.
There was a couple of occasions when Centrelink was simply unableto help someone who was clearly in need of some actual funds. I would give them all the cash i had in my pockets and wallet. Usually inadequate, but i could do no more.
I wonder what would have happened to me if i’d been ‘caught’ doing that?
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
When i worked for Centrelink, processing age pension claims could be very quick, indeed.I distinctly recall interviewing some applicants in the morning, and, because their applications were properly completed, the necessary supporting docs provided, and their finance/assets situation was straightforward, their pension status would alter to ‘granted’ later that same day.
i remember being able to get a counter cheque.
It was taking ages to process mine so I emailed my loc
local member and bingo it was done next day.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
OK time now for my cocoa and reading in the living room, if I’m going to be watching the telly afterwards as well.
I’m having a cup of tea and catching up with Fox news while listening to The Ride of the Valkyries.
I’m a bit of a fan of Vagner.
“Life is too short for Wagner” – Horace Rumpole.
Peak Warming Man said:
local member and bingo it was done next day.
Ah, i remember being ‘threatened’ with the ‘local member’.
My usual response was to recognise that it was the person’s right to consult with their MP, remind them that the MP’s electorate office was right across the street, and offer to phone to advise that office to expect the person concerned.
What i said about being ‘threatened’ with the ‘local member’:
i remember some times when i suggested (very quietly) that the person should go and see the MP.
As i’ve said before, if the design of the social security system was left to the people up there at ‘the sharp end’, it would look considerably different, indeed.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:I’m having a cup of tea and catching up with Fox news while listening to The Ride of the Valkyries.
I’m a bit of a fan of Vagner.
“Life is too short for Wagner” – Horace Rumpole.
The bingbot was struggling with that one, but eventually suggested the full quote is:
“life is too short to listen to Wagner;”
What Would Yevgeny Prigozhin Do
The Rev Dodgson said:
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:I’m a bit of a fan of Vagner.
“Life is too short for Wagner” – Horace Rumpole.
The bingbot was struggling with that one, but eventually suggested the full quote is:
“life is too short to listen to Wagner;”
“Life is too short, Wagner”

captain_spalding said:
When i worked for Centrelink, processing age pension claims could be very quick, indeed.
I distinctly recall interviewing some applicants in the morning, and, because their applications were properly completed, the necessary supporting docs provided, and their finance/assets situation was straightforward, their pension status would alter to ‘granted’ later that same day.
so imagine if, in an age of antivaccination and flat earth and contrail and small modular nuclear, there were such things as computers and internets and browsers and interactivity and cross departmental communications such that applicants could be guided along their applications to have them filled out correctly and efficiently and reliably, and claims could be processed quickly
diddly-squat said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Woodie said:“Life is too short for Wagner” – Horace Rumpole.
The bingbot was struggling with that one, but eventually suggested the full quote is:
“life is too short to listen to Wagner;”
“Life is too short, Wagner”
Anyone remember the ad for Johnny Walker whisky, where a French bottle shop owner asks:
‘would you rather have the whisky you would like to drink, or the whisky that you’d rather pay for?’‘
Then, he shrugs and says,
‘Life is too short’.
45 second is to short
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
When i worked for Centrelink, processing age pension claims could be very quick, indeed.
I distinctly recall interviewing some applicants in the morning, and, because their applications were properly completed, the necessary supporting docs provided, and their finance/assets situation was straightforward, their pension status would alter to ‘granted’ later that same day.
so imagine if, in an age of antivaccination and flat earth and contrail and small modular nuclear, there were such things as computers and internets and browsers and interactivity and cross departmental communications such that applicants could be guided along their applications to have them filled out correctly and efficiently and reliably, and claims could be processed quickly
Of course, there’s the story of when Frank Whittle presented the concept of jet engines to a meeting of British manufacturers.
One of the things that Whittle emphasised to them was that ‘it’s just such a simple, uncomplicated machine!’.
One of the manufacturers is said to have snorted, and said ‘don’t worry, we’ll soon design that out of it ‘.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
OK time now for my cocoa and reading in the living room, if I’m going to be watching the telly afterwards as well.
I’m having a cup of tea and catching up with Fox news while listening to The Ride of the Valkyries.
Fox “news” isn’t news, it’s brain poison.
Carefully curated to make you think that it’s giving you the facts, and you think you are making decisions based on “facts”.
Kingy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
OK time now for my cocoa and reading in the living room, if I’m going to be watching the telly afterwards as well.
I’m having a cup of tea and catching up with Fox news while listening to The Ride of the Valkyries.
Fox “news” isn’t news, it’s brain poison.
Carefully curated to make you think that it’s giving you the facts, and you think you are making decisions based on “facts”.
From Fox News:

No, wait, that’s from ‘Weekly World News’.
It’s so hard to distinguish it from Fox News. The usual rule-of-thumb is that WWN less obviously bullshit than is Fox News.
My work here tonight is done.
Peak Warming Man said:
My work here tonight is done.
Depart, o noble soul, and rest easy in the knowledge of tasks well accomplished.
We will clear up the wreckage, extinguish the remaining fires, attend to the wounded, and deal with the dead.
SCIENCE said:
What Would Yevgeny Prigozhin Do
fall out of a window, most likely.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
This might be interesting, on SBS1 tonight.The Great Killer Smog
Wednesday, 25 Sep
7:35 PM – 8:30 PM
ctc CC
In December 1952 one of the deadliest tragedies struck in London. A yellow smog smothered the city. Over two episodes, Doctor Xand Van Tulleken and Raksha Dave uncover the tragic events.
Ta, I’ll have a peep at that.
It was worthy. Raksha Dave of course is an archaeologist who appeared on Time Team for a decade.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
This might be interesting, on SBS1 tonight.The Great Killer Smog
Wednesday, 25 Sep
7:35 PM – 8:30 PM
ctc CC
In December 1952 one of the deadliest tragedies struck in London. A yellow smog smothered the city. Over two episodes, Doctor Xand Van Tulleken and Raksha Dave uncover the tragic events.
Ta, I’ll have a peep at that.
It was worthy. Raksha Dave of course is an archaeologist who appeared on Time Team for a decade.
I avoided that one like the smog.
How do. Anything good happen here today?
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
This might be interesting, on SBS1 tonight.The Great Killer Smog
Wednesday, 25 Sep
7:35 PM – 8:30 PM
ctc CC
In December 1952 one of the deadliest tragedies struck in London. A yellow smog smothered the city. Over two episodes, Doctor Xand Van Tulleken and Raksha Dave uncover the tragic events.
Ta, I’ll have a peep at that.
It was worthy. Raksha Dave of course is an archaeologist who appeared on Time Team for a decade.
Very slow moving. (Not the smog, the doco).
Brigade meeting just finished. Many jobs to do.
October is already full of things.
I am tired, I may need a nap.
Did the Eastern Staters survive the tsunami this morning?
Kingy said:
Did the Eastern Staters survive the tsunami this morning?
it was a test?
Kingy said:
Did the Eastern Staters survive the tsunami this morning?
I have not seen any reports of their demise, so I guess the answer is yes they did survive unscathed, and it was unremarkable.
.. or it was a total wipeout.
Option 1 seems the more plausible.

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees at the back door and the sky is clear. We are forecast 13 degrees.
No particular plans for today. My left arm is tender from the vaccination yesterday. Some weeding would not be out of the question.
Morning.
A bit cool. 9 degrees currenty but probably won’t get past 15 all day.
On that there’s 15mm in the gauge. Which means I won’t have to water for a couple of days.
https://investingnews.com/edison-lithium-files-technical-report-for-sodium-brine-properties-in-saskatchewan/
sarahs mum said:
Kingy said:
Did the Eastern Staters survive the tsunami this morning?
it was a test?
Some were raptured
Kingy said:
Did the Eastern Staters survive the tsunami this morning?
We’re OK, up here on the hill in Toowoomba.
But, i just had look overthe edge of the escarpment.
Seems that we’re a seaside town, now. I better start looking for a boat to buy.
dv said:
¿good news or bad news?
Anyway, I’m off for me mnx.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Anyway, I’m off for me mnx.
Nothing like a mix first thing in the morning.
Woodie said:
FMD…… I’ll need to set a a Go-Fund-Me.“Your claim for Age Pension was successfully submitted.
We expect to finalise your claim between 02 December 2024 and 09 December 2024.”
Ya reckon it’ll be back paid to this Sunday?
Yes it will..
And don’t you have to go prove to them in person that you are actually in Australia? I did.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Anyway, I’m off for me mnx.
Tail-less, vowel-less cat that lives with feral wallabies?
Morning minxes. Heading for 12 here today and -1 tonight, so quite a nippy one again.
G.J. Coles allege: We’re planning to arrive between 3:45 PM and 4:45 PM.
In the meantime I’ll be getting extra supplies from the IGA, including some Gravox to participate in tonight’s roast chicken dinner.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Anyway, I’m off for me mnx.Tail-less, vowel-less cat that lives with feral wallabies?
9.
Had the recurring dream again where I’ve lost a surprising amount of weight, and I look at myself in profile in the mirror and notice the bulging belly has almost gone.
And as usual, I think: “I must be dreaming again….but no not this time, I really am a lot thinner!”
But of course I was dreaming.
Bubblecar said:
Had the recurring dream again where I’ve lost a surprising amount of weight, and I look at myself in profile in the mirror and notice the bulging belly has almost gone.And as usual, I think: “I must be dreaming again….but no not this time, I really am a lot thinner!”
But of course I was dreaming.
You could of course, try mind over matter.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Anyway, I’m off for me mnx.Tail-less, vowel-less cat that lives with feral wallabies?
A laconic person goes to a cafe for brekky; the wait person is also known for being laconic.
C: “FUNEM?”
W: “SVFM.”
C: “FUNEX?”
W: “SVFX.”
C: “LFMNX.”
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Had the recurring dream again where I’ve lost a surprising amount of weight, and I look at myself in profile in the mirror and notice the bulging belly has almost gone.And as usual, I think: “I must be dreaming again….but no not this time, I really am a lot thinner!”
But of course I was dreaming.
You could of course, try mind over matter.
The daily 16 hour fast is going well. But I haven’t been able to check how much weight I’ve lost because the scales need a new coin battery, which will be arriving today with the Coles order.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Had the recurring dream again where I’ve lost a surprising amount of weight, and I look at myself in profile in the mirror and notice the bulging belly has almost gone.And as usual, I think: “I must be dreaming again….but no not this time, I really am a lot thinner!”
But of course I was dreaming.
You could of course, try mind over matter.
The daily 16 hour fast is going well. But I haven’t been able to check how much weight I’ve lost because the scales need a new coin battery, which will be arriving today with the Coles order.
Don’t try to eat it, you’ll choke.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:You could of course, try mind over matter.
The daily 16 hour fast is going well. But I haven’t been able to check how much weight I’ve lost because the scales need a new coin battery, which will be arriving today with the Coles order.
Don’t try to eat it, you’ll choke.
They put a bitter coating on them these days.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:The daily 16 hour fast is going well. But I haven’t been able to check how much weight I’ve lost because the scales need a new coin battery, which will be arriving today with the Coles order.
Don’t try to eat it, you’ll choke.
They put a bitter coating on them these days.
Everything seems to have a bitter coating these days.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:The daily 16 hour fast is going well. But I haven’t been able to check how much weight I’ve lost because the scales need a new coin battery, which will be arriving today with the Coles order.
Don’t try to eat it, you’ll choke.
They put a bitter coating on them these days.
Lithium isn’t much fun down the oesophagus.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Don’t try to eat it, you’ll choke.
They put a bitter coating on them these days.
Everything seems to have a bitter coating these days.
makes the pill hard to swallow?
btm said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Anyway, I’m off for me mnx.Tail-less, vowel-less cat that lives with feral wallabies?
A laconic person goes to a cafe for brekky; the wait person is also known for being laconic.
C: “FUNEM?”
W: “SVFM.”
C: “FUNEX?”
W: “SVFX.”
C: “LFMNX.”
I’m glad someone here remembers the laconic ronnies :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:
Michael V said:Tail-less, vowel-less cat that lives with feral wallabies?
A laconic person goes to a cafe for brekky; the wait person is also known for being laconic.
C: “FUNEM?”
W: “SVFM.”
C: “FUNEX?”
W: “SVFX.”
C: “LFMNX.”
I’m glad someone here remembers the laconic ronnies :)
I remember that sketch, which is more iconic than laconic.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Anyway, I’m off for me mnx.Tail-less, vowel-less cat that lives with feral wallabies?
9.
Nope, got nothing.
btm said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Anyway, I’m off for me mnx.Tail-less, vowel-less cat that lives with feral wallabies?
A laconic person goes to a cafe for brekky; the wait person is also known for being laconic.
C: “FUNEM?”
W: “SVFM.”
C: “FUNEX?”
W: “SVFX.”
C: “LFMNX.”
Nope, no idea.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:Tail-less, vowel-less cat that lives with feral wallabies?
9.
Nope, got nothing.
ham and eggs.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:Tail-less, vowel-less cat that lives with feral wallabies?
9.
Nope, got nothing.
An island associated with TT
Michael V said:
btm said:
Michael V said:Tail-less, vowel-less cat that lives with feral wallabies?
A laconic person goes to a cafe for brekky; the wait person is also known for being laconic.
C: “FUNEM?”
W: “SVFM.”
C: “FUNEX?”
W: “SVFX.”
C: “LFMNX.”
Nope, no idea.
“Have you any ham?”
“Yes, we have ham.”
“Have you any eggs?”
“Yes, we have eggs.”
“I’ll have ham and eggs.”
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:9.
Nope, got nothing.
ham and eggs.
Eyes pop.
I didn’t expect that.
Thanks for the explanation.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:9.
Nope, got nothing.
An island associated with TT
That was what I was asking, basically.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:Nope, got nothing.
An island associated with TT
That was what I was asking, basically.
btm said:
Michael V said:
btm said:A laconic person goes to a cafe for brekky; the wait person is also known for being laconic.
C: “FUNEM?”
W: “SVFM.”
C: “FUNEX?”
W: “SVFX.”
C: “LFMNX.”
Nope, no idea.
“Have you any ham?”
“Yes, we have ham.”
“Have you any eggs?”
“Yes, we have eggs.”
“I’ll have ham and eggs.”
There is no way in the world I would have guessed that. Not the slightest possibility.
Probably why I am so incredibly crap at cryptic crosswords.
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:
Michael V said:Tail-less, vowel-less cat that lives with feral wallabies?
A laconic person goes to a cafe for brekky; the wait person is also known for being laconic.
C: “FUNEM?”
W: “SVFM.”
C: “FUNEX?”
W: “SVFX.”
C: “LFMNX.”
I’m glad someone here remembers the laconic ronnies :)
I don’t recall that skit, it’s not one of their classics.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:An island associated with TT
That was what I was asking, basically.
Curses! My deviation has been exposed.
Well, cover it up, before it turns blue with the cold and drops off.
Michael V said:
btm said:
Michael V said:Nope, no idea.
“Have you any ham?”
“Yes, we have ham.”
“Have you any eggs?”
“Yes, we have eggs.”
“I’ll have ham and eggs.”
There is no way in the world I would have guessed that. Not the slightest possibility.
Probably why I am so incredibly crap at cryptic crosswords.
You didn’t look at the link?
I’m shocked :)
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:A laconic person goes to a cafe for brekky; the wait person is also known for being laconic.
C: “FUNEM?”
W: “SVFM.”
C: “FUNEX?”
W: “SVFX.”
C: “LFMNX.”
I’m glad someone here remembers the laconic ronnies :)
I don’t recall that skit, it’s not one of their classics.
I beg to differ.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:A laconic person goes to a cafe for brekky; the wait person is also known for being laconic.
C: “FUNEM?”
W: “SVFM.”
C: “FUNEX?”
W: “SVFX.”
C: “LFMNX.”
I’m glad someone here remembers the laconic ronnies :)
I don’t recall that skit, it’s not one of their classics.
It certainly is regarded as a Two Ronnies classic.
didn’t yous all use to play these word games as kids oh man
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:That was what I was asking, basically.
Curses! My deviation has been exposed.Well, cover it up, before it turns blue with the cold and drops off.

Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m glad someone here remembers the laconic ronnies :)
I don’t recall that skit, it’s not one of their classics.
It certainly is regarded as a Two Ronnies classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgOCNHv8vKs
SCIENCE said:
didn’t yous all use to play these word games as kids oh man
No. We had to grow up quick to ready us for the cruel world that lay ahead of us. So no time for childish games.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
btm said:“Have you any ham?”
“Yes, we have ham.”
“Have you any eggs?”
“Yes, we have eggs.”
“I’ll have ham and eggs.”
There is no way in the world I would have guessed that. Not the slightest possibility.
Probably why I am so incredibly crap at cryptic crosswords.
You didn’t look at the link?
I’m shocked :)
I did look at the YouTube link, but it made absolutely no sense to me. None whatsoever. All I could recognise was the Two Ronnies.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:There is no way in the world I would have guessed that. Not the slightest possibility.
Probably why I am so incredibly crap at cryptic crosswords.
You didn’t look at the link?
I’m shocked :)
I did look at the YouTube link, but it made absolutely no sense to me. None whatsoever. All I could recognise was the Two Ronnies.
barker was always better than corbett.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:I don’t recall that skit, it’s not one of their classics.
It certainly is regarded as a Two Ronnies classic.
I prefer “Fork ‘andles”
Aye, a classic.
Michael V said:
btm said:
Michael V said:Nope, no idea.
“Have you any ham?”
“Yes, we have ham.”
“Have you any eggs?”
“Yes, we have eggs.”
“I’ll have ham and eggs.”
There is no way in the world I would have guessed that. Not the slightest possibility.
Probably why I am so incredibly crap at cryptic crosswords.
I can’t remember how long MNX has been in the vocabulary here. It’s a very long time.
sarahs mum said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgOCNHv8vKs
:)
Anyway, showers don’t take themselves.
Hello
Cymek said:
Hello
sarahs mum said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgOCNHv8vKs
Thank you.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgOCNHv8vKs
Thank you.
Those dogs are getting older on us.
sarahs mum said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgOCNHv8vKs
Good times, good times.
I’ve got an appointment next week to discuss my blood test results with the GP. I thought I should check out the state of play, given it’s 5 years since my last tests. This paper is from 2017, so things might have changed, but I thought it Quite Interesting that the decision making in Australia was rather different from the decision making in New Zealand.
A new cardiocascular disease risk calculator has been dropped in 2023. Here it is, if anyone is interested. It is an endorsed RACGP guideline, and backed by various groups, including the Heart Foundation, Diabetes Australia etc.
https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
On the calculator I come out as low risk (on my 5 year old blood tests, I haven’t got the ones from Monday yet) even if I put my systolic blood pressure at 160. Based simply on “total cholesterol” I should be medicated.
OK, I should go and pull out some fumitory weed. It won’t do it by itself.
buffy said:
I’ve got an appointment next week to discuss my blood test results with the GP. I thought I should check out the state of play, given it’s 5 years since my last tests. This paper is from 2017, so things might have changed, but I thought it Quite Interesting that the decision making in Australia was rather different from the decision making in New Zealand.A new cardiocascular disease risk calculator has been dropped in 2023. Here it is, if anyone is interested. It is an endorsed RACGP guideline, and backed by various groups, including the Heart Foundation, Diabetes Australia etc.
https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
On the calculator I come out as low risk (on my 5 year old blood tests, I haven’t got the ones from Monday yet) even if I put my systolic blood pressure at 160. Based simply on “total cholesterol” I should be medicated.
Ta.
I immediately go into high risk, with familial hypercholesterolemia.
buffy said:
I’ve got an appointment next week to discuss my blood test results with the GP. I thought I should check out the state of play, given it’s 5 years since my last tests. This paper is from 2017, so things might have changed, but I thought it Quite Interesting that the decision making in Australia was rather different from the decision making in New Zealand.A new cardiocascular disease risk calculator has been dropped in 2023. Here it is, if anyone is interested. It is an endorsed RACGP guideline, and backed by various groups, including the Heart Foundation, Diabetes Australia etc.
https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
On the calculator I come out as low risk (on my 5 year old blood tests, I haven’t got the ones from Monday yet) even if I put my systolic blood pressure at 160. Based simply on “total cholesterol” I should be medicated.
My statins have probably helped save my life so far. My blood cholesterol readings are always good on the statins, but nonetheless my arteries are partially blocked.
Without the statins the situation would doubtless be worse. These are not medications you only want to be taking when it’s too late…
In a landmark speech the Chap calls peace in Gaza and a return of the sausages.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
I’ve got an appointment next week to discuss my blood test results with the GP. I thought I should check out the state of play, given it’s 5 years since my last tests. This paper is from 2017, so things might have changed, but I thought it Quite Interesting that the decision making in Australia was rather different from the decision making in New Zealand.A new cardiocascular disease risk calculator has been dropped in 2023. Here it is, if anyone is interested. It is an endorsed RACGP guideline, and backed by various groups, including the Heart Foundation, Diabetes Australia etc.
https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
On the calculator I come out as low risk (on my 5 year old blood tests, I haven’t got the ones from Monday yet) even if I put my systolic blood pressure at 160. Based simply on “total cholesterol” I should be medicated.
Ta.
I immediately go into high risk, with familial hypercholesterolemia.
Buffy doesn’t like taking medications even when recommended.
Peak Warming Man said:
In a landmark speech the Chap calls peace in Gaza and a return of the sausages.
What?
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
In a landmark speech the Chap calls peace in Gaza and a return of the sausages.
What?
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:
I’ve got an appointment next week to discuss my blood test results with the GP. I thought I should check out the state of play, given it’s 5 years since my last tests. This paper is from 2017, so things might have changed, but I thought it Quite Interesting that the decision making in Australia was rather different from the decision making in New Zealand.A new cardiocascular disease risk calculator has been dropped in 2023. Here it is, if anyone is interested. It is an endorsed RACGP guideline, and backed by various groups, including the Heart Foundation, Diabetes Australia etc.
https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
On the calculator I come out as low risk (on my 5 year old blood tests, I haven’t got the ones from Monday yet) even if I put my systolic blood pressure at 160. Based simply on “total cholesterol” I should be medicated.
Ta.
I immediately go into high risk, with familial hypercholesterolemia.
Buffy doesn’t like taking medications even when recommended.
The Type IV (familial) hyperlipidemia was discovered when I was 51. If I didn’t take the statins starting immediately, I had nearly 100% chance of being dead before 60. Seems a lot of males have died young in my paternal grandfather’s family, including him.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
I’ve got an appointment next week to discuss my blood test results with the GP. I thought I should check out the state of play, given it’s 5 years since my last tests. This paper is from 2017, so things might have changed, but I thought it Quite Interesting that the decision making in Australia was rather different from the decision making in New Zealand.A new cardiocascular disease risk calculator has been dropped in 2023. Here it is, if anyone is interested. It is an endorsed RACGP guideline, and backed by various groups, including the Heart Foundation, Diabetes Australia etc.
https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
On the calculator I come out as low risk (on my 5 year old blood tests, I haven’t got the ones from Monday yet) even if I put my systolic blood pressure at 160. Based simply on “total cholesterol” I should be medicated.
My statins have probably helped save my life so far. My blood cholesterol readings are always good on the statins, but nonetheless my arteries are partially blocked.
Without the statins the situation would doubtless be worse. These are not medications you only want to be taking when it’s too late…
Yeah I had to have a double heart bypass because of my cholesterol.
Its inherited so diet does very little.
I’m lucky it was picked up as they must have been blocked for years
I
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:Ta.
I immediately go into high risk, with familial hypercholesterolemia.
Buffy doesn’t like taking medications even when recommended.
The Type IV (familial) hyperlipidemia was discovered when I was 51. If I didn’t take the statins starting immediately, I had nearly 100% chance of being dead before 60. Seems a lot of males have died young in my paternal grandfather’s family, including him.
Yeah I have Familial hypercholesterolemia I inherited from my dad.
Two copies of the gene shortens ones lifespan quite significantly
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
In a landmark speech the Chap calls peace in Gaza and a return of the sausages.
What?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/24/keir-starmer-makes-gaza-sausages-gaffe-in-labour-conference-speech
Ta.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m glad someone here remembers the laconic ronnies :)
I don’t recall that skit, it’s not one of their classics.
It certainly is regarded as a Two Ronnies classic.
Don’t think they came up with it. My mother used to quote it.
I reckon 40s.. 1840s that is.
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Buffy doesn’t like taking medications even when recommended.
The Type IV (familial) hyperlipidemia was discovered when I was 51. If I didn’t take the statins starting immediately, I had nearly 100% chance of being dead before 60. Seems a lot of males have died young in my paternal grandfather’s family, including him.
Yeah I have Familial hypercholesterolemia I inherited from my dad.
Two copies of the gene shortens ones lifespan quite significantly
I inherited it from my father.
Matthew inherited it from me, and (likely) his mother, whose siblings, nieces and nephews have had heart surgery.
nemorous
PRONUNCIATION:
(NEM-uh-ruhs)
MEANING:
adjective: Relating to a forest; wooded.
ETYMOLOGY:
From Latin nemus (grove). Earliest documented use: 1623.
USAGE:
“Evelyn says that Paradise itself was but a kind of nemorous temple or sacred grove planted by God Himself and given to man.”
Alexander Porteous; Forest Folklore, Mythology, and Romance; George Allen & Unwin; 1928.
BACK with some National mini sausage rolls for lunch, having decided against kebab in the park.
Oh and buffy’s fencing staples arrived today, thanks very much :)
Just caught a bit of Joseph Hokey blurting to the press club.
He does a pretty good imitation of a younger Trump.
Damn, email from Coles:
Item you ordered Ocean King Bismarck Herring 500g 1 0
Item we supplied No substitute available
Michael V said:
btm said:
Michael V said:Tail-less, vowel-less cat that lives with feral wallabies?
A laconic person goes to a cafe for brekky; the wait person is also known for being laconic.
C: “FUNEM?”
W: “SVFM.”
C: “FUNEX?”
W: “SVFX.”
C: “LFMNX.”
Nope, no idea.
aff u any ham
ess we haf ham
Bubblecar said:
Damn, email from Coles:Item you ordered Ocean King Bismarck Herring 500g 1 0
Item we supplied No substitute available
They’re out of red herrings.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Damn, email from Coles:Item you ordered Ocean King Bismarck Herring 500g 1 0
Item we supplied No substitute available
They’re out of red herrings.
Sounds fishy.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Damn, email from Coles:Item you ordered Ocean King Bismarck Herring 500g 1 0
Item we supplied No substitute available
They’re out of red herrings.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Damn, email from Coles:Item you ordered Ocean King Bismarck Herring 500g 1 0
Item we supplied No substitute available
They’re out of red herrings.
probably all taken by the collective.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Damn, email from Coles:Item you ordered Ocean King Bismarck Herring 500g 1 0
Item we supplied No substitute available
They’re out of red herrings.
probably all taken by the collective.
I’d better give the older sister a ring and ask who she’ll be rooting for this Saturday.
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car
2h ·
¿CRADLE MOUNTAIN CABLEWAY?
Why is the State Government trying to find funding for this inappropriate, unnecessary, and unwanted project?
👎 Inappropriate – a cableway would negatively impact the natural and cultural values of Cradle Valley.
👎 Unnecessary – visitors are extremely satisfied with the existing shuttle bus service, there is scope for increasing the capacity of the shuttle bus service if necessary and if this is deemed desirable.
👎 Unwanted – mass tourism gimmick designed to increase throughput of visitors that would create overcrowding and diminish the quality of the natural experience that visitors to Cradle Mountain seek.
Popular natural destinations like Cradle Mountain and kunanyi / Mt Wellington should be managed to limit visitor numbers at peak times to maintain the quality of the experience. The last thing that either of these places needs are mass tourism gimmicks to attract more visitors

Bubblecar said:
I’d better give the older sister a ring and ask who she’ll be rooting for this Saturday.
She’s not there.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
I’d better give the older sister a ring and ask who she’ll be rooting for this Saturday.
She’s not there.
No one told me about her.
Bubblecar said:
BACK with some National mini sausage rolls for lunch, having decided against kebab in the park.Oh and buffy’s fencing staples arrived today, thanks very much :)
No worries. Now you need to develop the skill of hammering them in without them bending over. I can do it, but I have practised…
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:
I’ve got an appointment next week to discuss my blood test results with the GP. I thought I should check out the state of play, given it’s 5 years since my last tests. This paper is from 2017, so things might have changed, but I thought it Quite Interesting that the decision making in Australia was rather different from the decision making in New Zealand.A new cardiocascular disease risk calculator has been dropped in 2023. Here it is, if anyone is interested. It is an endorsed RACGP guideline, and backed by various groups, including the Heart Foundation, Diabetes Australia etc.
https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
On the calculator I come out as low risk (on my 5 year old blood tests, I haven’t got the ones from Monday yet) even if I put my systolic blood pressure at 160. Based simply on “total cholesterol” I should be medicated.
Ta.
I immediately go into high risk, with familial hypercholesterolemia.
Buffy doesn’t like taking medications even when recommended.
We had started using risk calculators in optometry before I retired. It’s considered to be a more accurate way of deciding what to do, because it takes more things into account. There are problems with using raw numbers.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK with some National mini sausage rolls for lunch, having decided against kebab in the park.Oh and buffy’s fencing staples arrived today, thanks very much :)
No worries. Now you need to develop the skill of hammering them in without them bending over. I can do it, but I have practised…
I’m back inside, having made three large piles of weeds ready for when the FOGO bin is next emptied. I think I’ve probably got enough for the next two collections. If things dry out a little in the next couple of days I will be able to put the prunings and bark and sticks and stuff from the Big Winds through the chipper. That should tidy things up a bit.
iNaturalist is offline for the next two hours, so I’ll catch up on my field notes and stuff.
Bubblecar said:
I’d better give the older sister a ring and ask who she’ll be rooting for this Saturday.
Oy!
sarahs mum said:
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car
2h ·
¿CRADLE MOUNTAIN CABLEWAY?
Why is the State Government trying to find funding for this inappropriate, unnecessary, and unwanted project?
👎 Inappropriate – a cableway would negatively impact the natural and cultural values of Cradle Valley.
👎 Unnecessary – visitors are extremely satisfied with the existing shuttle bus service, there is scope for increasing the capacity of the shuttle bus service if necessary and if this is deemed desirable.
👎 Unwanted – mass tourism gimmick designed to increase throughput of visitors that would create overcrowding and diminish the quality of the natural experience that visitors to Cradle Mountain seek.
Popular natural destinations like Cradle Mountain and kunanyi / Mt Wellington should be managed to limit visitor numbers at peak times to maintain the quality of the experience. The last thing that either of these places needs are mass tourism gimmicks to attract more visitors
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Your mob seems hell-bent on installing unnecessary cable cars.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car
2h ·
¿CRADLE MOUNTAIN CABLEWAY?
Why is the State Government trying to find funding for this inappropriate, unnecessary, and unwanted project?
👎 Inappropriate – a cableway would negatively impact the natural and cultural values of Cradle Valley.
👎 Unnecessary – visitors are extremely satisfied with the existing shuttle bus service, there is scope for increasing the capacity of the shuttle bus service if necessary and if this is deemed desirable.
👎 Unwanted – mass tourism gimmick designed to increase throughput of visitors that would create overcrowding and diminish the quality of the natural experience that visitors to Cradle Mountain seek.
Popular natural destinations like Cradle Mountain and kunanyi / Mt Wellington should be managed to limit visitor numbers at peak times to maintain the quality of the experience. The last thing that either of these places needs are mass tourism gimmicks to attract more visitors
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Your mob seems hell-bent on installing unnecessary cable cars.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car
2h ·
¿CRADLE MOUNTAIN CABLEWAY?
Why is the State Government trying to find funding for this inappropriate, unnecessary, and unwanted project?
👎 Inappropriate – a cableway would negatively impact the natural and cultural values of Cradle Valley.
👎 Unnecessary – visitors are extremely satisfied with the existing shuttle bus service, there is scope for increasing the capacity of the shuttle bus service if necessary and if this is deemed desirable.
👎 Unwanted – mass tourism gimmick designed to increase throughput of visitors that would create overcrowding and diminish the quality of the natural experience that visitors to Cradle Mountain seek.
Popular natural destinations like Cradle Mountain and kunanyi / Mt Wellington should be managed to limit visitor numbers at peak times to maintain the quality of the experience. The last thing that either of these places needs are mass tourism gimmicks to attract more visitors
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Your mob seems hell-bent on installing unnecessary cable cars.
There does seem to be a segment of the population in every state that insists a chairlift/cable car built at Place X is the answer to all their tourism woes.
do you think bringing back the stocks for minor crimes like vandalism, public drunkenness and anti-social be behavior would be a good idea?
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car
2h ·
¿CRADLE MOUNTAIN CABLEWAY?
Why is the State Government trying to find funding for this inappropriate, unnecessary, and unwanted project?
👎 Inappropriate – a cableway would negatively impact the natural and cultural values of Cradle Valley.
👎 Unnecessary – visitors are extremely satisfied with the existing shuttle bus service, there is scope for increasing the capacity of the shuttle bus service if necessary and if this is deemed desirable.
👎 Unwanted – mass tourism gimmick designed to increase throughput of visitors that would create overcrowding and diminish the quality of the natural experience that visitors to Cradle Mountain seek.
Popular natural destinations like Cradle Mountain and kunanyi / Mt Wellington should be managed to limit visitor numbers at peak times to maintain the quality of the experience. The last thing that either of these places needs are mass tourism gimmicks to attract more visitors
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Your mob seems hell-bent on installing unnecessary cable cars.
The world seems irony impaired when it comes to unspoilt natural beauty and wilderness.
Tourism instead of leave it alone and lets protect it for the next 50 years or more.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car
2h ·
¿CRADLE MOUNTAIN CABLEWAY?
Why is the State Government trying to find funding for this inappropriate, unnecessary, and unwanted project?
👎 Inappropriate – a cableway would negatively impact the natural and cultural values of Cradle Valley.
👎 Unnecessary – visitors are extremely satisfied with the existing shuttle bus service, there is scope for increasing the capacity of the shuttle bus service if necessary and if this is deemed desirable.
👎 Unwanted – mass tourism gimmick designed to increase throughput of visitors that would create overcrowding and diminish the quality of the natural experience that visitors to Cradle Mountain seek.
Popular natural destinations like Cradle Mountain and kunanyi / Mt Wellington should be managed to limit visitor numbers at peak times to maintain the quality of the experience. The last thing that either of these places needs are mass tourism gimmicks to attract more visitors
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Your mob seems hell-bent on installing unnecessary cable cars.
Skyrail near Cairns has been a great success.
bingo.
and Melbourne has an MCG.
and Sydney has Darling Harbour.
And those are the things that our idiots lust for.
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car
2h ·
¿CRADLE MOUNTAIN CABLEWAY?
Why is the State Government trying to find funding for this inappropriate, unnecessary, and unwanted project?
👎 Inappropriate – a cableway would negatively impact the natural and cultural values of Cradle Valley.
👎 Unnecessary – visitors are extremely satisfied with the existing shuttle bus service, there is scope for increasing the capacity of the shuttle bus service if necessary and if this is deemed desirable.
👎 Unwanted – mass tourism gimmick designed to increase throughput of visitors that would create overcrowding and diminish the quality of the natural experience that visitors to Cradle Mountain seek.
Popular natural destinations like Cradle Mountain and kunanyi / Mt Wellington should be managed to limit visitor numbers at peak times to maintain the quality of the experience. The last thing that either of these places needs are mass tourism gimmicks to attract more visitors
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Your mob seems hell-bent on installing unnecessary cable cars.
The world seems irony impaired when it comes to unspoilt natural beauty and wilderness.
Tourism instead of leave it alone and lets protect it for the next 50 years or more.
they have restricted the overland track while making bookings essential and making it a big ticket item.
Bogsnorkler said:
do you think bringing back the stocks for minor crimes like vandalism, public drunkenness and anti-social be behavior would be a good idea?
Now you’re talking.
And you can put your spoiled fruit to good and civic use.
Bogsnorkler said:
do you think bringing back the stocks for minor crimes like vandalism, public drunkenness and anti-social be behavior would be a good idea?
Bogsnorkler said:
do you think bringing back the stocks for minor crimes like vandalism, public drunkenness and anti-social be behavior would be a good idea?
And think of the fun you could have had with Barnaby.
Bogsnorkler said:
do you think bringing back the stocks for minor crimes like vandalism, public drunkenness and anti-social be behavior would be a good idea?
Yes, make all of the offenders buy DJT.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
I’d better give the older sister a ring and ask who she’ll be rooting for this Saturday.
She’s not there.
No one told me about her.
A Holland Dozier and Holland composition?
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car
2h ·
¿CRADLE MOUNTAIN CABLEWAY?
Why is the State Government trying to find funding for this inappropriate, unnecessary, and unwanted project?
👎 Inappropriate – a cableway would negatively impact the natural and cultural values of Cradle Valley.
👎 Unnecessary – visitors are extremely satisfied with the existing shuttle bus service, there is scope for increasing the capacity of the shuttle bus service if necessary and if this is deemed desirable.
👎 Unwanted – mass tourism gimmick designed to increase throughput of visitors that would create overcrowding and diminish the quality of the natural experience that visitors to Cradle Mountain seek.
Popular natural destinations like Cradle Mountain and kunanyi / Mt Wellington should be managed to limit visitor numbers at peak times to maintain the quality of the experience. The last thing that either of these places needs are mass tourism gimmicks to attract more visitors
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Your mob seems hell-bent on installing unnecessary cable cars.
The world seems irony impaired when it comes to unspoilt natural beauty and wilderness.
Tourism instead of leave it alone and lets protect it for the next 50 years or more.
Tourism wears thin on the locals.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
do you think bringing back the stocks for minor crimes like vandalism, public drunkenness and anti-social be behavior would be a good idea?
No. I have very bad memories of being put into the stocks.
that’s kinda the whole idea.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
I’d better give the older sister a ring and ask who she’ll be rooting for this Saturday.
She’s not there.
No one told me about her.
?
It’s Anna :)
We have just had a chat and she won’t be backing anyone in the GF, since her team (Geelong) is not in it.
(Not that she takes it very seriously at all :))
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
do you think bringing back the stocks for minor crimes like vandalism, public drunkenness and anti-social be behavior would be a good idea?
No. I have very bad memories of being put into the stocks.
When were you put in the stocks?
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:She’s not there.
No one told me about her.
A Holland Dozier and Holland composition?
“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK with some National mini sausage rolls for lunch, having decided against kebab in the park.Oh and buffy’s fencing staples arrived today, thanks very much :)
No worries. Now you need to develop the skill of hammering them in without them bending over. I can do it, but I have practised…
I’ll have a go at it tomorrow. I’m hoping the door frame wood is reasonably soft.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:No one told me about her.
A Holland Dozier and Holland composition?
“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
OK, Clearly picked the wrong composer.
I do recall that Vanilla Fudge did a version of the song.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:No one told me about her.
A Holland Dozier and Holland composition?
“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
Penny dropped. I remember the song well.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK with some National mini sausage rolls for lunch, having decided against kebab in the park.Oh and buffy’s fencing staples arrived today, thanks very much :)
No worries. Now you need to develop the skill of hammering them in without them bending over. I can do it, but I have practised…
I’ll have a go at it tomorrow. I’m hoping the door frame wood is reasonably soft.
You could drill small pilot holes.
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
Michael V said:Your mob seems hell-bent on installing unnecessary cable cars.
The world seems irony impaired when it comes to unspoilt natural beauty and wilderness.
Tourism instead of leave it alone and lets protect it for the next 50 years or more.
Tourism wears thin on the locals.
Yes I can imagine so
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
Michael V said:Your mob seems hell-bent on installing unnecessary cable cars.
The world seems irony impaired when it comes to unspoilt natural beauty and wilderness.
Tourism instead of leave it alone and lets protect it for the next 50 years or more.
Tourism wears thin on the locals.
i remember a couple of decades ago being asked on the forum, I think it was dv, whether tourism was better thing than forestry. I was all for selling the natural beauty and not wood chipping it and letting it rot on a wharf in Burnie.
I didn’t foresee all the MPs ending up with 5 Air Bnbs each.
I should have. I remember reading once that there was never a time that there wasn’t corruption in Forestry. And now they have parked it elsewhere.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
do you think bringing back the stocks for minor crimes like vandalism, public drunkenness and anti-social be behavior would be a good idea?
No. I have very bad memories of being put into the stocks.
that’s kinda the whole idea.
I was 10 at the time and my sister jumped onto my feet, nearly breaking both my legs. All for a photo opportunity for my father. By the time my parents looked up after hearing me scream, my sister was playing little miss innocence.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:A Holland Dozier and Holland composition?
“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
OK, Clearly picked the wrong composer.
I do recall that Vanilla Fudge did a version of the song.
Sure you’re not thinking of “You Keep Me Hanging On”?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:She’s not there.
No one told me about her.
?
It’s Anna :)
We have just had a chat and she won’t be backing anyone in the GF, since her team (Geelong) is not in it.
(Not that she takes it very seriously at all :))
“No-one told me about her
She’s not there”
Lines from a song.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:The world seems irony impaired when it comes to unspoilt natural beauty and wilderness.
Tourism instead of leave it alone and lets protect it for the next 50 years or more.
Tourism wears thin on the locals.
i remember a couple of decades ago being asked on the forum, I think it was dv, whether tourism was better thing than forestry. I was all for selling the natural beauty and not wood chipping it and letting it rot on a wharf in Burnie.
I didn’t foresee all the MPs ending up with 5 Air Bnbs each.
I should have. I remember reading once that there was never a time that there wasn’t corruption in Forestry. And now they have parked it elsewhere.
I do think that Air BnBs are a real problem in reducing the availability of long-term rentals, but politicians don’t seem to want to talk about it much.
I wonder why that might be.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
do you think bringing back the stocks for minor crimes like vandalism, public drunkenness and anti-social be behavior would be a good idea?
No. I have very bad memories of being put into the stocks.
When were you put in the stocks?
1965
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:A Holland Dozier and Holland composition?
“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
OK, Clearly picked the wrong composer.
I do recall that Vanilla Fudge did a version of the song.
They did a cover.
Neophyte said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
OK, Clearly picked the wrong composer.
I do recall that Vanilla Fudge did a version of the song.
Sure you’re not thinking of “You Keep Me Hanging On”?
That was was writtn by H,D & H. but both songs were on the same album.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:No. I have very bad memories of being put into the stocks.
When were you put in the stocks?
1965
You sister always that mean?
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:A Holland Dozier and Holland composition?
“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
OK, Clearly picked the wrong composer.
I do recall that Vanilla Fudge did a version of the song.
yep. 67.
Also Santana. 77.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
OK, Clearly picked the wrong composer.
I do recall that Vanilla Fudge did a version of the song.
They did a cover.
Yeah.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
OK, Clearly picked the wrong composer.
I do recall that Vanilla Fudge did a version of the song.
yep. 67.
Also Santana. 77.
Didn’t know Santana did one.
Neophyte said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
OK, Clearly picked the wrong composer.
I do recall that Vanilla Fudge did a version of the song.
Sure you’re not thinking of “You Keep Me Hanging On”?
It’s on the same album.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:When were you put in the stocks?
1965
You sister always that mean?
Just what kids do, I suppose.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:No. I have very bad memories of being put into the stocks.
that’s kinda the whole idea.
I was 10 at the time and my sister jumped onto my feet, nearly breaking both my legs. All for a photo opportunity for my father. By the time my parents looked up after hearing me scream, my sister was playing little miss innocence.
Oh MV, that’s awful.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:1965
You sister always that mean?
Just what kids do, I suppose.
Do things without being aware of the consquences, yes.
Michael V said:
Neophyte said:
roughbarked said:OK, Clearly picked the wrong composer.
I do recall that Vanilla Fudge did a version of the song.
Sure you’re not thinking of “You Keep Me Hanging On”?
It’s on the same album.
There are a lot of covers on that album.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:1965
You sister always that mean?
Just what kids do, I suppose.
doesn’t mean you don’t end up with childhood ptsd.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:You sister always that mean?
Just what kids do, I suppose.
doesn’t mean you don’t end up with childhood ptsd.
This is so very real.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Neophyte said:Sure you’re not thinking of “You Keep Me Hanging On”?
It’s on the same album.
There are a lot of covers on that album.
For those who weren’t aware: Vanilla Fudge is an American rock band known predominantly for their extended rock arrangements of contemporary hit songs, most notably “You Keep Me Hangin’ On”.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:No one told me about her.
A Holland Dozier and Holland composition?
“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
I listened to it again just now and it was a very well produced record.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:A Holland Dozier and Holland composition?
“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
I listened to it again just now and it was a very well produced record.
Their 1968 album Odessey and Oracle was ranked number 100 on Rolling Stone’s 2012 list of the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:A Holland Dozier and Holland composition?
“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
I listened to it again just now and it was a very well produced record.
The song starts well but disintegrates a bit in the chorus.
Some of what Australians usually encounter in their daily lives:

Witty Rejoinder said:
Some of what Australians usually encounter in their daily lives:
Just as well as DA is no longer with us.
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Some of what Australians usually encounter in their daily lives:
Just as well as DA is no longer with us.
What happened another forumer died ?
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
I listened to it again just now and it was a very well produced record.
The song starts well but disintegrates a bit in the chorus.
Rod Argent who wrote that song later formed a band called Argent and release a song titled Hold Your Head Up
Cymek said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Some of what Australians usually encounter in their daily lives:
Just as well as DA is no longer with us.
What happened another forumer died ?
She got busy elsewhere.
Coles truck will be here within the hour.
In the meantime I ought to get the gravy underway for tonight’s roast hen & trimmings.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:A Holland Dozier and Holland composition?
“She’s Not There” is the debut single by the English rock band the Zombies, written by keyboardist Rod Argent. It reached No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart in September 1964, and No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States at the beginning of December 1964. In Canada, it reached No. 2.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked “She’s Not There” No. 297 on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
In 2016, the song by The Zombies was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
I listened to it again just now and it was a very well produced record.
it was an ear worm for me during uni. So many times i heard someone say ‘She’s not there.’
Bubblecar said:
Coles truck will be here within the hour.In the meantime I ought to get the gravy underway for tonight’s roast hen & trimmings.
You’ve got time to Learn The Hyper-Accelerated Dragon Sicilian defense.
Tallied up my rainfall measurements for the past 24 hours and have 19.5mm. Happy as a pig in mud.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Coles truck will be here within the hour.In the meantime I ought to get the gravy underway for tonight’s roast hen & trimmings.
You’ve got time to Learn The Hyper-Accelerated Dragon Sicilian defense.
I’m not a fan of blood sports.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Coles truck will be here within the hour.In the meantime I ought to get the gravy underway for tonight’s roast hen & trimmings.
You’ve got time to Learn The Hyper-Accelerated Dragon Sicilian defense.
I’m not a fan of blood sports.
Where there is blood, it ceases to be sporty.
Coles truck is here. Name: Felicity again.
Seems they did have free range eggs after all, but a brand I haven’t had before, Lucky Chicken. “No more than 1,500 birds per hectare”.
Bubblecar said:
Seems they did have free range eggs after all, but a brand I haven’t had before, Lucky Chicken. “No more than 1,500 birds per hectare”.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Seems they did have free range eggs after all, but a brand I haven’t had before, Lucky Chicken. “No more than 1,500 birds per hectare”.
That’s 6.66 chooks per m^2
Better than drowning in their own shit in a cage, I suppose.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Seems they did have free range eggs after all, but a brand I haven’t had before, Lucky Chicken. “No more than 1,500 birds per hectare”.
That’s 6.66 chooks per m^2
Seems incorrect. I think a hectare is 10,000 m^2.
0.15 chooks per m^2, I arrive at.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Seems they did have free range eggs after all, but a brand I haven’t had before, Lucky Chicken. “No more than 1,500 birds per hectare”.
That’s 6.66 chooks per m^2
Better than drowning in their own shit in a cage, I suppose.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Seems they did have free range eggs after all, but a brand I haven’t had before, Lucky Chicken. “No more than 1,500 birds per hectare”.
That’s 6.66 chooks per m^2
0.666 chooks/m2
(Hectare = 10,000 m2)
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Seems they did have free range eggs after all, but a brand I haven’t had before, Lucky Chicken. “No more than 1,500 birds per hectare”.
That’s 6.66 chooks per m^2Seems incorrect. I think a hectare is 10,000 m^2.
0.15 chooks per m^2, I arrive at.
6.66 m^2 per chook.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Seems they did have free range eggs after all, but a brand I haven’t had before, Lucky Chicken. “No more than 1,500 birds per hectare”.
That’s 6.66 chooks per m^2Seems incorrect. I think a hectare is 10,000 m^2.
0.15 chooks per m^2, I arrive at.
Oops, that’s more like it :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:That’s 6.66 chooks per m^2
Seems incorrect. I think a hectare is 10,000 m^2.
0.15 chooks per m^2, I arrive at.
Oops, that’s more like it :)
150 chooks to the quarter acre bock.
sarahs mum said:
150 chooks to the quarter acre bock.
So I could easily fit in 300.
I’m back. I was going to blame the tetanus shock for complaining muscles, but it seems I have to blame the position I get into when weeding. Oh well…it will settle overnight.
sarahs mum said:
150 chooks to the quarter acre bock.
That’s a lot of chooks to feed.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
150 chooks to the quarter acre bock.
That’s a lot of chooks to feed.
it’s a bit overcrowded..you wouldn’t say overstocked. It would be nice if there were three quarter acre paddocks to rotate them in.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
150 chooks to the quarter acre bock.
That’s a lot of chooks to feed.
it’s a bit overcrowded..you wouldn’t say overstocked. It would be nice if there were three quarter acre paddocks to rotate them in.
Land is easy to acquire if you are a man.
Just get someone to kick you in the nuts and you have a couple of acres
Have any of you lot watched The Marvellous Mrs Maisel? And if you have, would you recommend it? Looks OK from the ads on SBS.
My brain is quite convinced today is Friday. I have no idea why this is so.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
150 chooks to the quarter acre bock.
That’s a lot of chooks to feed.
it’s a bit overcrowded..you wouldn’t say overstocked. It would be nice if there were three quarter acre paddocks to rotate them in.
Don’t need a paddock, that’s what the rotisserie is for.
Would you let this man buy you a drink?

roughbarked said:
Would you let this man buy you a drink?
I live in the constant and perpetual hope that, at any moment, someone may offer to buy me a drink.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Would you let this man buy you a drink?
I live in the constant and perpetual hope that, at any moment, someone may offer to buy me a drink.
I didn’t link the image to the story.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-26/adam-lusk-guilty-of-raping-drugging-12-women-date-rape/104387584
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Would you let this man buy you a drink?
I live in the constant and perpetual hope that, at any moment, someone may offer to buy me a drink.
I didn’t link the image to the story.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-26/adam-lusk-guilty-of-raping-drugging-12-women-date-rape/104387584
As long as i can see the drink poured, and take immediate custody of it.
Idon’t think that, a long as i live, i’ll understand why someone would do that. It’s clearly going to be a scarring nightmare for the poor woman, but i can’t imagine that it’s a fabulous experience even for the rapist.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:I live in the constant and perpetual hope that, at any moment, someone may offer to buy me a drink.
I didn’t link the image to the story.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-26/adam-lusk-guilty-of-raping-drugging-12-women-date-rape/104387584
As long as i can see the drink poured, and take immediate custody of it.
Idon’t think that, a long as i live, i’ll understand why someone would do that. It’s clearly going to be a scarring nightmare for the poor woman, but i can’t imagine that it’s a fabulous experience even for the rapist.
I have read that it’s a “Power Trip” thing.
https://www.theage.com.au/technology/mark-zuckerberg-shows-off-the-most-advanced-glasses-the-world-has-ever-seen-20240926-p5kdlq.html?
Mark Zuckerberg shows off the prototype.

…
These look a little absurd.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-14/artificial-intelligence-real-fake-quiz-abc-news-verify/104148236
I got most of them right, but I’m clever.
Witty Rejoinder said:
https://www.theage.com.au/technology/mark-zuckerberg-shows-off-the-most-advanced-glasses-the-world-has-ever-seen-20240926-p5kdlq.html?Mark Zuckerberg shows off the prototype.
…
These look a little absurd.
He’s just waiting for Mr. Tracy to call him on the intercom. The International Rescue boys often need a bit of advice.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:I live in the constant and perpetual hope that, at any moment, someone may offer to buy me a drink.
I didn’t link the image to the story.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-26/adam-lusk-guilty-of-raping-drugging-12-women-date-rape/104387584
As long as i can see the drink poured, and take immediate custody of it.
Idon’t think that, a long as i live, i’ll understand why someone would do that. It’s clearly going to be a scarring nightmare for the poor woman, but i can’t imagine that it’s a fabulous experience even for the rapist.
Yeah. :(
Witty Rejoinder said:
https://www.theage.com.au/technology/mark-zuckerberg-shows-off-the-most-advanced-glasses-the-world-has-ever-seen-20240926-p5kdlq.html?Mark Zuckerberg shows off the prototype.
…
These look a little absurd.
Makes him look like he’d drop the motherboard for the daughter card.
Witty Rejoinder said:
https://www.theage.com.au/technology/mark-zuckerberg-shows-off-the-most-advanced-glasses-the-world-has-ever-seen-20240926-p5kdlq.html?Mark Zuckerberg shows off the prototype.
…
These look a little absurd.
“Uh uh, I-I..I think they’re kind of uh, cute.”

Think I might watch actually watch some space puppets tonight, haven’t for a long time. And then maybe some more vintage Who.
Do you see blue or green? This viral test plays with color perception
A visual neuroscientist realized he saw green and blue differently to his wife. He designed an interactive site that has received over 1.5m visits
https://www.theguardian.com/wellness/2024/sep/16/blue-green-viral-test-color-perception?
buffy said:
My brain is quite convinced today is Friday. I have no idea why this is so.
This was the general feeling at work today. Strange.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Do you see blue or green? This viral test plays with color perception
A visual neuroscientist realized he saw green and blue differently to his wife. He designed an interactive site that has received over 1.5m visitshttps://www.theguardian.com/wellness/2024/sep/16/blue-green-viral-test-color-perception?
I’m greener than 66%.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Do you see blue or green? This viral test plays with color perception
A visual neuroscientist realized he saw green and blue differently to his wife. He designed an interactive site that has received over 1.5m visitshttps://www.theguardian.com/wellness/2024/sep/16/blue-green-viral-test-color-perception?
I’m greener than 66%.
i’m greener than 98%!
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Do you see blue or green? This viral test plays with color perception
A visual neuroscientist realized he saw green and blue differently to his wife. He designed an interactive site that has received over 1.5m visitshttps://www.theguardian.com/wellness/2024/sep/16/blue-green-viral-test-color-perception?
I’m greener than 66%.
i’m greener than 98%!
Now that’s just getting silly ;)
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m greener than 66%.
i’m greener than 98%!
Now that’s just getting silly ;)
Just did it again and suddenly I’m bluer than 75%!
All the stuff in the middle can be greeny-blue or bluey-green as far as I’m concerned.
comrades
transition said:
comrades
Evening pilgrim.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
comrades
Evening pilgrim.
.6mm rain reckon, SFA, maybe saturday do better, i’ll has a look at most recent forecast, you wait there i’ll be back in a moment you’ll have my full attention..
transition said:
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
comrades
Evening pilgrim.
.6mm rain reckon, SFA, maybe saturday do better, i’ll has a look at most recent forecast, you wait there i’ll be back in a moment you’ll have my full attention..
90% chance 5-10mm, peak probability is around 3:30pm saturday, there ya go, I senses you wanted to know
been watering the garden, pissing money out a hose
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m greener than 66%.
i’m greener than 98%!
Now that’s just getting silly ;)
I s*it you not: ‘‘Your boundary is at hue 157, greener than 98% of the population. For you, turquoise is blue.’‘
i’ll leaves ya with a kestrel, while cleaning troughs out the farm this morn, had bung out of second trough I thought be a moment before previous fill enough to start flow on this one, worked out perfect

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9EAnhWKe_rM
Prairie dog vacuum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egTtyS-PlRM&t=55s
Wallace and Grommet bunny vac.
Guess what I’m doing…

Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9EAnhWKe_rMPrairie dog vacuum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egTtyS-PlRM&t=55s
Wallace and Grommet bunny vac.
You can watch comedian Rich Hall talk about the prairie dog vacuum on an old QI episode.
Rich’s remarks start at 8 min 52 sec.
Kingy said:
Guess what I’m doing…
Oooo oooo, I know what you’re doing.
Posting to the Holiday Forum!
Someone turned on the rain tap here again. 45 mls today. Sorry to all the people waiting for rain, us east coast people seem to be hogging it again.

Why do obesity drugs seem to treat so many other ailments?
From alcoholism to Parkinson’s, scientists are studying the mechanisms behind the broad clinical potential of weight-loss drugs.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03074-1?
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Do you see blue or green? This viral test plays with color perception
A visual neuroscientist realized he saw green and blue differently to his wife. He designed an interactive site that has received over 1.5m visitshttps://www.theguardian.com/wellness/2024/sep/16/blue-green-viral-test-color-perception?
I’m greener than 66%.
i’m greener than 98%!
My result: Your boundary is at hue 184, bluer than 93% of the population. For you, turquoise is green.
Actually, I called some of them blue-green, but wasn’t given that option.
Kingy said:
Guess what I’m doing…
Setting fire to hairstacks.
Hamtramck is named for the French-Canadian soldier Jean-François Hamtramck, who was the first American commander of Fort Shelby, the fortification at Detroit. It was originally known as Hamtramck Township.
——
Certainly a weird name.
Doesn’t look very French.
dv said:
Hamtramck is named for the French-Canadian soldier Jean-François Hamtramck, who was the first American commander of Fort Shelby, the fortification at Detroit. It was originally known as Hamtramck Township.——
Certainly a weird name.
Doesn’t look very French.
New French.
dv said:
Hamtramck is named for the French-Canadian soldier Jean-François Hamtramck, who was the first American commander of Fort Shelby, the fortification at Detroit. It was originally known as Hamtramck Township.——
Certainly a weird name.
Doesn’t look very French.
I’d be surprised if it was pronounced by Jean-François anything like like it’s spelt.
French is infamous for not pronouncing all of the letters on the page.
Probably comes out something like ‘Hatrack’.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Hamtramck is named for the French-Canadian soldier Jean-François Hamtramck, who was the first American commander of Fort Shelby, the fortification at Detroit. It was originally known as Hamtramck Township.——
Certainly a weird name.
Doesn’t look very French.
I’d be surprised if it was pronounced by Jean-François anything like like it’s spelt.
French is infamous for not pronouncing all of the letters on the page.
Probably comes out something like ‘Hatrack’.
Or ‘Atrack.
dv said:
Hamtramck is named for the French-Canadian soldier Jean-François Hamtramck, who was the first American commander of Fort Shelby, the fortification at Detroit. It was originally known as Hamtramck Township.——
Certainly a weird name.
Doesn’t look very French.
https://wdet.org/2022/09/08/curiosid-where-does-the-name-hamtramck-come-from/#:~:text=Hamtramck%27s%20Namesake,the%20surname%20Hamtramck%20is%20French.
Link.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Why do obesity drugs seem to treat so many other ailments?
From alcoholism to Parkinson’s, scientists are studying the mechanisms behind the broad clinical potential of weight-loss drugs.https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03074-1?
Thanks Witty.
Was just talking about obesity drugs with my brother.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Hamtramck is named for the French-Canadian soldier Jean-François Hamtramck, who was the first American commander of Fort Shelby, the fortification at Detroit. It was originally known as Hamtramck Township.——
Certainly a weird name.
Doesn’t look very French.
I’d be surprised if it was pronounced by Jean-François anything like like it’s spelt.
French is infamous for not pronouncing all of the letters on the page.
Probably comes out something like ‘Hatrack’.
Or ‘Atrack.
What about Amtrack?
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Hamtramck is named for the French-Canadian soldier Jean-François Hamtramck, who was the first American commander of Fort Shelby, the fortification at Detroit. It was originally known as Hamtramck Township.——
Certainly a weird name.
Doesn’t look very French.
I’d be surprised if it was pronounced by Jean-François anything like like it’s spelt.
French is infamous for not pronouncing all of the letters on the page.
Probably comes out something like ‘Hatrack’.
Or ‘Atrack.
His father was from Luxembourg..

At a Glance
Helene is spreading rainfall into Florida and the Southeast, with landfall expected tonight.
Potentially catastrophic storm surge could occur in Florida’s Big Bend region.
Life-threatening rainfall flooding, damaging winds and some tornadoes will push inland in the Southeast.
Those inland threats will be felt in parts of Georgia, the Carolinas and Tennessee.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Hamtramck is named for the French-Canadian soldier Jean-François Hamtramck, who was the first American commander of Fort Shelby, the fortification at Detroit. It was originally known as Hamtramck Township.——
Certainly a weird name.
Doesn’t look very French.
https://wdet.org/2022/09/08/curiosid-where-does-the-name-hamtramck-come-from/#:~:text=Hamtramck%27s%20Namesake,the%20surname%20Hamtramck%20is%20French.
Link.
“When he did so, he changed his name to John Francis Hamtramck, presumably so it would sound more American.”
Lol.
Reminds me of this:

dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Hamtramck is named for the French-Canadian soldier Jean-François Hamtramck, who was the first American commander of Fort Shelby, the fortification at Detroit. It was originally known as Hamtramck Township.——
Certainly a weird name.
Doesn’t look very French.
https://wdet.org/2022/09/08/curiosid-where-does-the-name-hamtramck-come-from/#:~:text=Hamtramck%27s%20Namesake,the%20surname%20Hamtramck%20is%20French.
Link.
“When he did so, he changed his name to John Francis Hamtramck, presumably so it would sound more American.”
Lol.
Reminds me of this:
Good job.
You’ll never find an AI coming up with such a list of excellent names.
sarahs mum said:
At a Glance
Helene is spreading rainfall into Florida and the Southeast, with landfall expected tonight.
Potentially catastrophic storm surge could occur in Florida’s Big Bend region.
Life-threatening rainfall flooding, damaging winds and some tornadoes will push inland in the Southeast.
Those inland threats will be felt in parts of Georgia, the Carolinas and Tennessee.
Hang on, I’ll get m’Sharpie
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://wdet.org/2022/09/08/curiosid-where-does-the-name-hamtramck-come-from/#:~:text=Hamtramck%27s%20Namesake,the%20surname%20Hamtramck%20is%20French.
Link.
“When he did so, he changed his name to John Francis Hamtramck, presumably so it would sound more American.”
Lol.
Reminds me of this:
Good job.
You’ll never find an AI coming up with such a list of excellent names.
So we all agree that 1990s ASIANS already had 3rd order markov chain generative 爱 down like bosses.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Hamtramck is named for the French-Canadian soldier Jean-François Hamtramck, who was the first American commander of Fort Shelby, the fortification at Detroit. It was originally known as Hamtramck Township.——
Certainly a weird name.
Doesn’t look very French.
I’d be surprised if it was pronounced by Jean-François anything like like it’s spelt.
French is infamous for not pronouncing all of the letters on the page.
Probably comes out something like ‘Hatrack’.
Ham-Tramick, or something like that, if YouTube is to be believed.
It’s been a big day. Doing stuff.



Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees at the back door, clear sky, no wind. We are forecast a mostly sunny 17 degrees today and 23 degrees tomorrow. Then rain again on Sunday. We are still short of water for the year to date, but it’s better than it was.
Today will involve more weeding in the back yard. I should quite seriously get on with getting some tomato seeds going in my polystyrene box that I picked up outside one of the restaurants in Hamilton last week. (They put their delivery boxes out for people to take and use. This one is quite a large one that had salmon in it. Although not when I got it). With a sheet of plastic or glass over the top they make good little greenhouses for domestic numbers of seedlings.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees at the back door, clear sky, no wind. We are forecast a mostly sunny 17 degrees today and 23 degrees tomorrow. Then rain again on Sunday. We are still short of water for the year to date, but it’s better than it was.Today will involve more weeding in the back yard. I should quite seriously get on with getting some tomato seeds going in my polystyrene box that I picked up outside one of the restaurants in Hamilton last week. (They put their delivery boxes out for people to take and use. This one is quite a large one that had salmon in it. Although not when I got it). With a sheet of plastic or glass over the top they make good little greenhouses for domestic numbers of seedlings.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees at the back door, clear sky, no wind. We are forecast a mostly sunny 17 degrees today and 23 degrees tomorrow. Then rain again on Sunday. We are still short of water for the year to date, but it’s better than it was.Today will involve more weeding in the back yard. I should quite seriously get on with getting some tomato seeds going in my polystyrene box that I picked up outside one of the restaurants in Hamilton last week. (They put their delivery boxes out for people to take and use. This one is quite a large one that had salmon in it. Although not when I got it). With a sheet of plastic or glass over the top they make good little greenhouses for domestic numbers of seedlings.
Morning. 5.9˚ here, dew point 4.2˚ Clear and sunny. Should get to 19˚, The rest of the seven days ahead, should all be ablove 20˚.
I have been using polystyrene boxes for decades and yes they do have advantages in insulation but they also deteriorate in tiny particles into your soil. They also seem to attract slugs and slaters, things that love your tiny seedlings.
The boxes last for years as long as you remember to move them out of the sun and dry them out properly to store after the seedlings go out into the garden. My slugs and slaters are better behaved than yours. They live under the boxes, on the outside.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees at the back door, clear sky, no wind. We are forecast a mostly sunny 17 degrees today and 23 degrees tomorrow. Then rain again on Sunday. We are still short of water for the year to date, but it’s better than it was.Today will involve more weeding in the back yard. I should quite seriously get on with getting some tomato seeds going in my polystyrene box that I picked up outside one of the restaurants in Hamilton last week. (They put their delivery boxes out for people to take and use. This one is quite a large one that had salmon in it. Although not when I got it). With a sheet of plastic or glass over the top they make good little greenhouses for domestic numbers of seedlings.
Morning. 5.9˚ here, dew point 4.2˚ Clear and sunny. Should get to 19˚, The rest of the seven days ahead, should all be ablove 20˚.
I have been using polystyrene boxes for decades and yes they do have advantages in insulation but they also deteriorate in tiny particles into your soil. They also seem to attract slugs and slaters, things that love your tiny seedlings.
The boxes last for years as long as you remember to move them out of the sun and dry them out properly to store after the seedlings go out into the garden. My slugs and slaters are better behaved than yours. They live under the boxes, on the outside.
Yes, I’ve grown many thousands of native plants in ever single box though and this requires the boxes to be in the sun for quite long periods.
They come up at night and eat the seedlings.
Weekly news quiz. I got four out of ten without making any guesses because I didn’t even try to guess six questions.
sarahs mum said:
At a Glance
Helene is spreading rainfall into Florida and the Southeast, with landfall expected tonight.
Potentially catastrophic storm surge could occur in Florida’s Big Bend region.
Life-threatening rainfall flooding, damaging winds and some tornadoes will push inland in the Southeast.
Those inland threats will be felt in parts of Georgia, the Carolinas and Tennessee.
TIL:
I had no idea there was a Panama City in Florida.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
At a Glance
Helene is spreading rainfall into Florida and the Southeast, with landfall expected tonight.
Potentially catastrophic storm surge could occur in Florida’s Big Bend region.
Life-threatening rainfall flooding, damaging winds and some tornadoes will push inland in the Southeast.
Those inland threats will be felt in parts of Georgia, the Carolinas and Tennessee.
TIL:
I had no idea there was a Panama City in Florida.
far canal!
Morning pilgrims.
It’s a rainy old day in Brisbane town, and cool.
Morning forum.
Cold and blustery and a brief shower on the beach this morning, which made the brightest rainbow. A sea eagle was cruising around as well. Didn’t take my camera for once dammit.
50 mls has filled my garden water tank nicely and watered the mango tree, hoping for a good crop again.
Off to work for a few hours, then a Friday Fun bushwalk.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims.
It’s a rainy old day in Brisbane town, and cool.
we had rain o’night too, as well.
ruby said:
Morning forum.
Cold and blustery and a brief shower on the beach this morning, which made the brightest rainbow. A sea eagle was cruising around as well. Didn’t take my camera for once dammit.
50 mls has filled my garden water tank nicely and watered the mango tree, hoping for a good crop again.
Off to work for a few hours, then a Friday Fun bushwalk.
Sounds good.
8/10. Six guesses. I actually knew several of those.
Good morning everybody.
It’s 19.1° C, 79% RH and overcast with a light air. We had a few drops of rain earlier, but not enough to wash the grit off plant leaves. And super-light rain has started again, moments ago. BoM forecasts 22° C and a 90% chance of rain for the day.
No real agenda, except that I have been asked to cook fried rice tonight. I deliberately cooked excess rice Wednesday night so I could make this meal.
ruby said:
Morning forum.
Cold and blustery and a brief shower on the beach this morning, which made the brightest rainbow. A sea eagle was cruising around as well. Didn’t take my camera for once dammit.
50 mls has filled my garden water tank nicely and watered the mango tree, hoping for a good crop again.
Off to work for a few hours, then a Friday Fun bushwalk.
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.It’s 19.1° C, 79% RH and overcast with a light air. We had a few drops of rain earlier, but not enough to wash the grit off plant leaves. And super-light rain has started again, moments ago. BoM forecasts 22° C and a 90% chance of rain for the day.
No real agenda, except that I have been asked to cook fried rice tonight. I deliberately cooked excess rice Wednesday night so I could make this meal.
Just get a packet of Rice A Riso.
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.It’s 19.1° C, 79% RH and overcast with a light air. We had a few drops of rain earlier, but not enough to wash the grit off plant leaves. And super-light rain has started again, moments ago. BoM forecasts 22° C and a 90% chance of rain for the day.
No real agenda, except that I have been asked to cook fried rice tonight. I deliberately cooked excess rice Wednesday night so I could make this meal.
MV
https://www.woknrollequipment.com.au/blogs/recipe-ideas/uncle-roger-egg-fried-rice?srsltid=AfmBOop7jw8HTP3iOCVDkZKcuxlv9Qv_IpejWFswz28HRwxCMLISeWdt
Short video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/phaJyELX7Jw
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.It’s 19.1° C, 79% RH and overcast with a light air. We had a few drops of rain earlier, but not enough to wash the grit off plant leaves. And super-light rain has started again, moments ago. BoM forecasts 22° C and a 90% chance of rain for the day.
No real agenda, except that I have been asked to cook fried rice tonight. I deliberately cooked excess rice Wednesday night so I could make this meal.
Just get a packet of Rice A Riso.
I haven’t seen that since I was a teenager; Mum used to buy it. I checked. It’s still made.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.It’s 19.1° C, 79% RH and overcast with a light air. We had a few drops of rain earlier, but not enough to wash the grit off plant leaves. And super-light rain has started again, moments ago. BoM forecasts 22° C and a 90% chance of rain for the day.
No real agenda, except that I have been asked to cook fried rice tonight. I deliberately cooked excess rice Wednesday night so I could make this meal.
Just get a packet of Rice A Riso.
I haven’t seen that since I was a teenager; Mum used to buy it. I checked. It’s still made.
I haven’t seen it since the 70’s Had no idea that it was still available.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.It’s 19.1° C, 79% RH and overcast with a light air. We had a few drops of rain earlier, but not enough to wash the grit off plant leaves. And super-light rain has started again, moments ago. BoM forecasts 22° C and a 90% chance of rain for the day.
No real agenda, except that I have been asked to cook fried rice tonight. I deliberately cooked excess rice Wednesday night so I could make this meal.
Just get a packet of Rice A Riso.
I haven’t seen that since I was a teenager; Mum used to buy it. I checked. It’s still made.
Yeah my mum used to buy it too, there wasn’t a lot in it.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.It’s 19.1° C, 79% RH and overcast with a light air. We had a few drops of rain earlier, but not enough to wash the grit off plant leaves. And super-light rain has started again, moments ago. BoM forecasts 22° C and a 90% chance of rain for the day.
No real agenda, except that I have been asked to cook fried rice tonight. I deliberately cooked excess rice Wednesday night so I could make this meal.
MV
https://www.woknrollequipment.com.au/blogs/recipe-ideas/uncle-roger-egg-fried-rice?srsltid=AfmBOop7jw8HTP3iOCVDkZKcuxlv9Qv_IpejWFswz28HRwxCMLISeWdt
Short video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/phaJyELX7Jw
Thanks.
I looked, but I will stick with my recipe which has developed lots of complex flavours over the years, but remains light and fluffy.
Greetings
Cymek said:
Greetings
Hello.
I’ve got a pie and a apple turnover with cream for morning tea.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.It’s 19.1° C, 79% RH and overcast with a light air. We had a few drops of rain earlier, but not enough to wash the grit off plant leaves. And super-light rain has started again, moments ago. BoM forecasts 22° C and a 90% chance of rain for the day.
No real agenda, except that I have been asked to cook fried rice tonight. I deliberately cooked excess rice Wednesday night so I could make this meal.
Just get a packet of Rice A Riso.
I haven’t seen that since I was a teenager; Mum used to buy it. I checked. It’s still made.

when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.It’s 19.1° C, 79% RH and overcast with a light air. We had a few drops of rain earlier, but not enough to wash the grit off plant leaves. And super-light rain has started again, moments ago. BoM forecasts 22° C and a 90% chance of rain for the day.
No real agenda, except that I have been asked to cook fried rice tonight. I deliberately cooked excess rice Wednesday night so I could make this meal.
Now there is an idea…I was going to just do a chicken and veg stirfry, but I might fried rice it instead. I’ll boil some brown rice shortly to use.
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
Next weekend, I believe. The 6th? Though I could be wrong.
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
Sunday 6th October.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.It’s 19.1° C, 79% RH and overcast with a light air. We had a few drops of rain earlier, but not enough to wash the grit off plant leaves. And super-light rain has started again, moments ago. BoM forecasts 22° C and a 90% chance of rain for the day.
No real agenda, except that I have been asked to cook fried rice tonight. I deliberately cooked excess rice Wednesday night so I could make this meal.
Now there is an idea…I was going to just do a chicken and veg stirfry, but I might fried rice it instead. I’ll boil some brown rice shortly to use.
It is a good while since I had a rice dish so I might jon the queue and do something with wild rices.
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
First Sunday in October.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
Next weekend, I believe. The 6th? Though I could be wrong.
Not that we save any daylight.
I’m usually up before and to bed after on any day of the year.
However they want to pay me to set their clocks.
thank you kindly
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
First Sunday in October.
Always was, always will be?
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
Next weekend, I believe. The 6th? Though I could be wrong.
Not that we save any daylight.
I’m usually up before and to bed after on any day of the year.
However they want to pay me to set their clocks.
PWM once told me that there is a warehouse full of all the saved daylight.. so that when the sun dies we will have a few more good years left
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Next weekend, I believe. The 6th? Though I could be wrong.
Not that we save any daylight.
I’m usually up before and to bed after on any day of the year.
However they want to pay me to set their clocks.
PWM once told me that there is a warehouse full of all the saved daylight.. so that when the sun dies we will have a few more good years left
Like that’s going to work.
There won’t be any solar power, so they won’t be able to open the doors to the warehouse, or transport the daylight to where it’s needed.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Next weekend, I believe. The 6th? Though I could be wrong.
Not that we save any daylight.
I’m usually up before and to bed after on any day of the year.
However they want to pay me to set their clocks.
PWM once told me that there is a warehouse full of all the saved daylight.. so that when the sun dies we will have a few more good years left
:))
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.It’s 19.1° C, 79% RH and overcast with a light air. We had a few drops of rain earlier, but not enough to wash the grit off plant leaves. And super-light rain has started again, moments ago. BoM forecasts 22° C and a 90% chance of rain for the day.
No real agenda, except that I have been asked to cook fried rice tonight. I deliberately cooked excess rice Wednesday night so I could make this meal.
Now there is an idea…I was going to just do a chicken and veg stirfry, but I might fried rice it instead. I’ll boil some brown rice shortly to use.
It is a good while since I had a rice dish so I might jon the queue and do something with wild rices.
You know wild rice is a grass, not a rice, yes?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Not that we save any daylight.
I’m usually up before and to bed after on any day of the year.
However they want to pay me to set their clocks.
PWM once told me that there is a warehouse full of all the saved daylight.. so that when the sun dies we will have a few more good years left
Like that’s going to work.
There won’t be any solar power, so they won’t be able to open the doors to the warehouse, or transport the daylight to where it’s needed.
Always trying to engineer a bridge. :)
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
First Sunday in October.
Always was, always will be?
No, it used to be around my brother’s birthday, at the end of October. But it changed a long time ago.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:Now there is an idea…I was going to just do a chicken and veg stirfry, but I might fried rice it instead. I’ll boil some brown rice shortly to use.
It is a good while since I had a rice dish so I might jon the queue and do something with wild rices.
You know wild rice is a grass, not a rice, yes?
Of course.
I’m only using the terminology on the bag of seeds.
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
Most of the eastern seaboard doesn’t change.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:First Sunday in October.
Always was, always will be?
No, it used to be around my brother’s birthday, at the end of October. But it changed a long time ago.
Yes. That’s why I put the question mark. I know it started out as one thing and got extended.
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
Most of the eastern seaboard doesn’t change.
Sun still gets up anyway, whether I’ve reset your watch or not.
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
No idea. It’s not happening here, and I live just one kilometre (walking by the side of roads) from the eastern seaboard.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Not that we save any daylight.
I’m usually up before and to bed after on any day of the year.
However they want to pay me to set their clocks.
PWM once told me that there is a warehouse full of all the saved daylight.. so that when the sun dies we will have a few more good years left
Like that’s going to work.
There won’t be any solar power, so they won’t be able to open the doors to the warehouse, or transport the daylight to where it’s needed.
but we will just use the thousands of robot slaves we built to fight the ladybug plague that killed millions… we can reprogram them
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
Most of the eastern seaboard doesn’t change.
anything but unity .. fight on
Michael V said:
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
No idea. It’s not happening here, and I live just one kilometre (walking by the side of roads) from the eastern seaboard.
You save daylight by getting up for the sunrise.
Sun is out here now, let’s hope the rain has ceased, we’ve had a good drop.
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
Most of the eastern seaboard doesn’t change.
Nods.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
when does the eastern seaboard start saving daylight?
Most of the eastern seaboard doesn’t change.
Nods.
Coastal lows do give them a battering now and then.
Supreme court quashes a tribunal decision that would have forced a museum to allow men to enter its women-only “Ladies’ Lounge”.
roughbarked said:
women are better than menSupreme court quashes a tribunal decision that would have forced a museum to allow men to enter its women-only “Ladies’ Lounge”.
Storm in teacup enters new phase.
roughbarked said:
women are better than menSupreme court quashes a tribunal decision that would have forced a museum to allow men to enter its women-only “Ladies’ Lounge”.

captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
women are better than menSupreme court quashes a tribunal decision that would have forced a museum to allow men to enter its women-only “Ladies’ Lounge”.
Storm in teacup enters new phase.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
women are better than menSupreme court quashes a tribunal decision that would have forced a museum to allow men to enter its women-only “Ladies’ Lounge”.
Storm in teacup enters new phase.
do the men on here have problems with woman’s only clubs/events/etc
It might be annoying say if as a man you genuinely wanted to join for the activity.
Most of the time is seems to be to give woman the peace of not having men around who make them feel uncomfortable
roughbarked said:
women are better than menSupreme court quashes a tribunal decision that would have forced a museum to allow men to enter its women-only “Ladies’ Lounge”.
Good. That “Ladies Lounge” was the artwork in itself. MONA contains all sorts of challenging art.
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:Storm in teacup enters new phase.
do the men on here have problems with woman’s only clubs/events/etc
It might be annoying say if as a man you genuinely wanted to join for the activity.
Most of the time is seems to be to give woman the peace of not having men around who make them feel uncomfortable
The men here have been threatened with such, often. Though I doubt the women would keep coming back if we collectively or individually, were all that repugnant.
Cymek said:
Most of the time is seems to be to give woman the peace of not having men around who make them feel uncomfortable
That’s reasonable thing. I have no problem with that.
If people have no problem with the vice-versa, then all is settled, and we can move on.
(I’m not advocating for ‘men-only’ spaces/groups/activities/whatever, but i have no problem with that concept, just as i have no problem with the idea of ‘women-only’ versions. If those things are what people want, or feel that they need, let them have them.)
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
women are better than menSupreme court quashes a tribunal decision that would have forced a museum to allow men to enter its women-only “Ladies’ Lounge”.
Good. That “Ladies Lounge” was the artwork in itself. MONA contains all sorts of challenging art.
Art is what it is. I have no problems with any of this.
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:Most of the time is seems to be to give woman the peace of not having men around who make them feel uncomfortable
That’s reasonable thing. I have no problem with that.
If people have no problem with the vice-versa, then all is settled, and we can move on.
(I’m not advocating for ‘men-only’ spaces/groups/activities/whatever, but i have no problem with that concept, just as i have no problem with the idea of ‘women-only’ versions. If those things are what people want, or feel that they need, let them have them.)
To a degree, women are at many a time to be happy for the men to be somewhere else.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:Most of the time is seems to be to give woman the peace of not having men around who make them feel uncomfortable
That’s reasonable thing. I have no problem with that.
If people have no problem with the vice-versa, then all is settled, and we can move on.
(I’m not advocating for ‘men-only’ spaces/groups/activities/whatever, but i have no problem with that concept, just as i have no problem with the idea of ‘women-only’ versions. If those things are what people want, or feel that they need, let them have them.)
To a degree, women are at many a time to be happy for the men to be somewhere else.
And that’s fair enough. People are funny creatures, and what pleases them sometimes ‘defies logic’.
Personally, i don’t expect any one gender to be any more logical than any other. The problems seem to arise when people do have that expectation, and dislike it when some others decline to conform to it.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Next weekend, I believe. The 6th? Though I could be wrong.
Not that we save any daylight.
I’m usually up before and to bed after on any day of the year.
However they want to pay me to set their clocks.
PWM once told me that there is a warehouse full of all the saved daylight.. so that when the sun dies we will have a few more good years left
NOT FOR QLD THERE WON’T BE!
Banged one of buffy’s staples into the workshop door frame (left door) and secured door with coat-hanger wire. Hopefully it won’t fall out :)

I does whippers and waters
yes yard is all tidy
back’n lunch had sausages
two in fact did me
folded bread white the color
I do’t occasionally
supremely liberal the sauce
‘n’ peppers plenty
only black today none other
now be cup of tea
a tablet so big fit for a horse
antipsychotic see
nah vitamins ya silly bugger
lady puzzling
reading….how cool…goes has look it youtube some moving pictures of with sound
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fennec_fox
“The fennec fox (Vulpes zerda) is a small crepuscular fox native to the deserts of North Africa, ranging from Western Sahara and Mauritania to the Sinai Peninsula. Its most distinctive feature is its unusually large ears, which serve to dissipate heat and listen for underground prey. The fennec is the smallest fox species. Its coat, ears, and kidney functions have adapted to the desert environment with high temperatures and little water. It mainly eats insects, small mammals and birds. The fennec has a life span of up to 14 years in captivity and about 10 years in the wild. Its main predators are the Verreaux’s eagle-owl, jackals and other large mammals. Fennec families dig out burrows in the sand for habitation and protection, which can be as large as 120 m2 (1,300 sq ft) and adjoin the burrows of other families. Precise population figures are not known but are estimated from the frequency of sightings; these indicate that the fennec is currently not threatened by extinction. Knowledge of social interactions is limited to information gathered from captive animals. The fennec’s fur is prized by the indigenous peoples of North Africa, and it is considered an exotic pet in some parts of the world.
Its name comes from the species’ Arabic name: fanak..”
transition said:
lady puzzlingreading….how cool…goes has look it youtube some moving pictures of with sound
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fennec_fox
“The fennec fox (Vulpes zerda) is a small crepuscular fox native to the deserts of North Africa, ranging from Western Sahara and Mauritania to the Sinai Peninsula. Its most distinctive feature is its unusually large ears, which serve to dissipate heat and listen for underground prey. The fennec is the smallest fox species. Its coat, ears, and kidney functions have adapted to the desert environment with high temperatures and little water. It mainly eats insects, small mammals and birds. The fennec has a life span of up to 14 years in captivity and about 10 years in the wild. Its main predators are the Verreaux’s eagle-owl, jackals and other large mammals. Fennec families dig out burrows in the sand for habitation and protection, which can be as large as 120 m2 (1,300 sq ft) and adjoin the burrows of other families. Precise population figures are not known but are estimated from the frequency of sightings; these indicate that the fennec is currently not threatened by extinction. Knowledge of social interactions is limited to information gathered from captive animals. The fennec’s fur is prized by the indigenous peoples of North Africa, and it is considered an exotic pet in some parts of the world.Its name comes from the species’ Arabic name: fanak..”
Jolly good.
Just had a couple of nice sun-showers.
Bubblecar said:
Banged one of buffy’s staples into the workshop door frame (left door) and secured door with coat-hanger wire. Hopefully it won’t fall out :)
ooooooo…. look!! An out house!!
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Banged one of buffy’s staples into the workshop door frame (left door) and secured door with coat-hanger wire. Hopefully it won’t fall out :)
ooooooo…. look!! An out house!!
Servant’s quarters.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Banged one of buffy’s staples into the workshop door frame (left door) and secured door with coat-hanger wire. Hopefully it won’t fall out :)
ooooooo…. look!! An out house!!
Servant’s quarters.
Body storage
Could fit a dozen lawnmower people in there
Waves to Mr Tunks
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:ooooooo…. look!! An out house!!
Servant’s quarters.
Body storage
Could fit a dozen lawnmower people in there
Waves to Mr Tunks
What’s he building in there?
What the hell is he building in there?
He has subscriptions to those magazines
He never waves when he goes by
He’s hiding something from the rest of us
He’s all to himself
I think I know why
He took down the tire swing from the pepper tree
He has no children of his own, you see
He has no dog, he has no friends
And his lawn is dying
And what about all those packages he sends?
What’s he building in there?
With that hook light on the stairs
What’s he building in there?
I’ll tell you one thing, he’s not building a playhouse for the children
What’s he building in there?
Now what’s that sound from underneath the door?
He’s pounding nails into a hardwood floor
I swear to God, I heard someone moaning low
I keep seeing the blue light of a TV show
He has a router and a table saw
And you won’t believe what Mr. Sticha saw
There’s poison underneath the sink, of course
But there’s also enough formaldehyde to choke a horse
What’s he building in there?
What the hell is he building in there?
I heard he has an ex-wife
In some place called Mayor’s Income, Tennessee
And he used to have a consulting business in Indonesia
But what’s he building in there?
He has no friends, but he gets a lot of mail
I’ll bet he spent a little time in jail
I heard he was up on the roof last night, signaling with a flashlight
And what’s that tune he’s always whistling?
What’s he building in there?
What’s he building in there?
We have a right to know
furious said:
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Servant’s quarters.
Body storage
Could fit a dozen lawnmower people in there
Waves to Mr Tunks
What’s he building in there?
What the hell is he building in there?
He has subscriptions to those magazines
He never waves when he goes by
He’s hiding something from the rest of usHe’s all to himself
I think I know why
He took down the tire swing from the pepper tree
He has no children of his own, you see
He has no dog, he has no friends
And his lawn is dying
And what about all those packages he sends?What’s he building in there?
With that hook light on the stairs
What’s he building in there?
I’ll tell you one thing, he’s not building a playhouse for the children
What’s he building in there?Now what’s that sound from underneath the door?
He’s pounding nails into a hardwood floor
I swear to God, I heard someone moaning low
I keep seeing the blue light of a TV showHe has a router and a table saw
And you won’t believe what Mr. Sticha saw
There’s poison underneath the sink, of course
But there’s also enough formaldehyde to choke a horseWhat’s he building in there?
What the hell is he building in there?
I heard he has an ex-wife
In some place called Mayor’s Income, Tennessee
And he used to have a consulting business in Indonesia
But what’s he building in there?He has no friends, but he gets a lot of mail
I’ll bet he spent a little time in jail
I heard he was up on the roof last night, signaling with a flashlight
And what’s that tune he’s always whistling?
What’s he building in there?
What’s he building in there?We have a right to know
LOL
Peak Warming Man said:
furious said:
Cymek said:Body storage
Could fit a dozen lawnmower people in there
Waves to Mr Tunks
What’s he building in there?
What the hell is he building in there?
He has subscriptions to those magazines
He never waves when he goes by
He’s hiding something from the rest of usHe’s all to himself
I think I know why
He took down the tire swing from the pepper tree
He has no children of his own, you see
He has no dog, he has no friends
And his lawn is dying
And what about all those packages he sends?What’s he building in there?
With that hook light on the stairs
What’s he building in there?
I’ll tell you one thing, he’s not building a playhouse for the children
What’s he building in there?Now what’s that sound from underneath the door?
He’s pounding nails into a hardwood floor
I swear to God, I heard someone moaning low
I keep seeing the blue light of a TV showHe has a router and a table saw
And you won’t believe what Mr. Sticha saw
There’s poison underneath the sink, of course
But there’s also enough formaldehyde to choke a horseWhat’s he building in there?
What the hell is he building in there?
I heard he has an ex-wife
In some place called Mayor’s Income, Tennessee
And he used to have a consulting business in Indonesia
But what’s he building in there?He has no friends, but he gets a lot of mail
I’ll bet he spent a little time in jail
I heard he was up on the roof last night, signaling with a flashlight
And what’s that tune he’s always whistling?
What’s he building in there?
What’s he building in there?We have a right to know
LOL
Bubblecar “Puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again”
furious said:
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Servant’s quarters.
Body storage
Could fit a dozen lawnmower people in there
Waves to Mr Tunks
What’s he building in there?
What the hell is he building in there?
He has subscriptions to those magazines
He never waves when he goes by
He’s hiding something from the rest of usHe’s all to himself
I think I know why
He took down the tire swing from the pepper tree
He has no children of his own, you see
He has no dog, he has no friends
And his lawn is dying
And what about all those packages he sends?What’s he building in there?
With that hook light on the stairs
What’s he building in there?
I’ll tell you one thing, he’s not building a playhouse for the children
What’s he building in there?Now what’s that sound from underneath the door?
He’s pounding nails into a hardwood floor
I swear to God, I heard someone moaning low
I keep seeing the blue light of a TV showHe has a router and a table saw
And you won’t believe what Mr. Sticha saw
There’s poison underneath the sink, of course
But there’s also enough formaldehyde to choke a horseWhat’s he building in there?
What the hell is he building in there?
I heard he has an ex-wife
In some place called Mayor’s Income, Tennessee
And he used to have a consulting business in Indonesia
But what’s he building in there?He has no friends, but he gets a lot of mail
I’ll bet he spent a little time in jail
I heard he was up on the roof last night, signaling with a flashlight
And what’s that tune he’s always whistling?
What’s he building in there?
What’s he building in there?We have a right to know
Bloody hell how old are you? Tom Waits was shit in the 70’s let alone the 1990’s.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Not that we save any daylight.
I’m usually up before and to bed after on any day of the year.
However they want to pay me to set their clocks.
PWM once told me that there is a warehouse full of all the saved daylight.. so that when the sun dies we will have a few more good years left
NOT FOR QLD THERE WON’T BE!
QLD never had any good years…
son: I’m hungry
Me: make yourself a toasted sandwich
son: there’s no bread
Me: in the freezer
son: I looked, there’s no bread
(I get up and open the freezer and pull out the bread)
Le sigh
Arts said:
son: I’m hungry
Me: make yourself a toasted sandwich
son: there’s no bread
Me: in the freezer
son: I looked, there’s no bread
(I get up and open the freezer and pull out the bread)Le sigh
the mundane minutiae of everyday life with a teenage boy.
Arts said:
Arts said:
son: I’m hungry
Me: make yourself a toasted sandwich
son: there’s no bread
Me: in the freezer
son: I looked, there’s no bread
(I get up and open the freezer and pull out the bread)Le sigh
the mundane minutiae of everyday life with a teenage boy.
Yep. You’ve obviously got one there.
Arts said:
Arts said:
son: I’m hungry
Me: make yourself a toasted sandwich
son: there’s no bread
Me: in the freezer
son: I looked, there’s no bread
(I get up and open the freezer and pull out the bread)Le sigh
the mundane minutiae of everyday life with a teenage boy.
while you’re up you might as well make him the sandwich.
Having spent several days walking Offa’s Dyke which hugs the Wye River I can attest to its beauty.

However I was caught in a severe storm which shut down most of the UK for several days and had to bail.
But I’ve told that story before.
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
Arts said:
son: I’m hungry
Me: make yourself a toasted sandwich
son: there’s no bread
Me: in the freezer
son: I looked, there’s no bread
(I get up and open the freezer and pull out the bread)Le sigh
the mundane minutiae of everyday life with a teenage boy.
while you’re up you might as well make him the sandwich.
it’s amazing you aren’t married
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
Arts said:
son: I’m hungry
Me: make yourself a toasted sandwich
son: there’s no bread
Me: in the freezer
son: I looked, there’s no bread
(I get up and open the freezer and pull out the bread)Le sigh
the mundane minutiae of everyday life with a teenage boy.
while you’re up you might as well make him the sandwich.
Yeah, shes a terrible mother.
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:the mundane minutiae of everyday life with a teenage boy.
while you’re up you might as well make him the sandwich.
it’s amazing you aren’t married
I know.

They aren’t Canadian what is going on
I’d better go and get tomorrow’s GF drinks and tonight’s non-GF drinks, from the shop that sells this class of goods.
Bubblecar said:
I’d better go and get tomorrow’s GF drinks and tonight’s non-GF drinks, from the shop that sells this class of goods.

Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Banged one of buffy’s staples into the workshop door frame (left door) and secured door with coat-hanger wire. Hopefully it won’t fall out :)
ooooooo…. look!! An out house!!
My nephew says he thinks that workshop looks like public toilet facilities.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
I’d better go and get tomorrow’s GF drinks and tonight’s non-GF drinks, from the shop that sells this class of goods.
I hope the GF tomorrow is more fun than the last time the Swannies took that celebrated stage.
Bubblecar said:
I’d better go and get tomorrow’s GF drinks and tonight’s non-GF drinks, from the shop that sells this class of goods.
Champagne will be le drink du jour when my gorgeous SWANNIES take out “The Big Dance”!!!!
Arts said:
Arts said:
son: I’m hungry
Me: make yourself a toasted sandwich
son: there’s no bread
Me: in the freezer
son: I looked, there’s no bread
(I get up and open the freezer and pull out the bread)Le sigh
the mundane minutiae of everyday life with a teenage boy.
Sounds like one of my juniors at work.
Junior: where is thing?
Me: (points to shelves) Bay on the left, middle shelf, in the box marked thing
Junior: I can’t seem to find it
Me: Right in front of your nose
Junior: where, I cant see it
Me: (walks over and points to box marked thing) here!
Junuor: Oh, I didn’t see it
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
I’d better go and get tomorrow’s GF drinks and tonight’s non-GF drinks, from the shop that sells this class of goods.
I hope the GF tomorrow is more fun than the last time the Swannies took that celebrated stage.
I’ll be barracking for Brisbane.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
I hope the GF tomorrow is more fun than the last time the Swannies took that celebrated stage.
I’ll be barracking for Brisbane.
makes sign of the devil
HISS… HISS….BOOOOOO BOOOOOOO!!!
BTW, Mr Panty Parts, you have a habit of tipping losers in the footy tips. hehehehehe
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:I hope the GF tomorrow is more fun than the last time the Swannies took that celebrated stage.
I’ll be barracking for Brisbane.
makes sign of the devil
HISS… HISS….BOOOOOO BOOOOOOO!!!
BTW, Mr Panty Parts, you have a habit of tipping losers in the footy tips. hehehehehe
Yeah, late in the season I kept tipping Sydney, and nek minute they were 10 goals down without scoring a goal themselves :p
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:I’ll be barracking for Brisbane.
makes sign of the devil
HISS… HISS….BOOOOOO BOOOOOOO!!!
BTW, Mr Panty Parts, you have a habit of tipping losers in the footy tips. hehehehehe
Yeah, late in the season I kept tipping Sydney, and nek minute they were 10 goals down without scoring a goal themselves :p
But my gorgeous SWANNIES certainly sorted that one out last week, though, hey what but!
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:makes sign of the devil
HISS… HISS….BOOOOOO BOOOOOOO!!!
BTW, Mr Panty Parts, you have a habit of tipping losers in the footy tips. hehehehehe
Yeah, late in the season I kept tipping Sydney, and nek minute they were 10 goals down without scoring a goal themselves :p
But my gorgeous SWANNIES certainly sorted that one out last week, though, hey what but!
We’ll see.
One of my favourite players plays for Brisbane, so I have to cheer for them.
Lachie Neale in case you didn’t want to know who.
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:Yeah, late in the season I kept tipping Sydney, and nek minute they were 10 goals down without scoring a goal themselves :p
But my gorgeous SWANNIES certainly sorted that one out last week, though, hey what but!
We’ll see.
One of my favourite players plays for Brisbane, so I have to cheer for them.
Lachie Neale in case you didn’t want to know who.
All freo fans seem to love him, no idea why. Youre supposed to hate players that willingly leave your team. I’m going swans, I have a general dislike for Brisbane. Though, I don’t mind their coach…
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
I hope the GF tomorrow is more fun than the last time the Swannies took that celebrated stage.
I’ll be barracking for Brisbane.
My apathy towards the outcome is unbounded.
Mona’s Ladies Lounge wins appeal in bid to continue barring men from entry
Tasmania’s supreme court handed down its decision in the discrimination case on Friday, sending it back to a tribunal
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/sep/27/mona-ladies-lounge-exhibit-discrimination-case-banning-men-appeal-overturned
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:Yeah, late in the season I kept tipping Sydney, and nek minute they were 10 goals down without scoring a goal themselves :p
But my gorgeous SWANNIES certainly sorted that one out last week, though, hey what but!
We’ll see.
One of my favourite players plays for Brisbane, so I have to cheer for them.
Lachie Neale in case you didn’t want to know who.
His foot is gunna fall off, he’s had that many needles stuck in it.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:I hope the GF tomorrow is more fun than the last time the Swannies took that celebrated stage.
I’ll be barracking for Brisbane.
My apathy towards the outcome is unbounded.
Ultimately, the outcome is of no great concern to me, but it beats two flies walking up a wall….
BACK after a pleasant nocturnal walk and lifting exercise.*
*Bags contained 3 x Cooper’s longnecks, 2 x bottles shiraz, 1 x white, 1 x bubbly.
sarahs mum said:
Mona’s Ladies Lounge wins appeal in bid to continue barring men from entry
Tasmania’s supreme court handed down its decision in the discrimination case on Friday, sending it back to a tribunalhttps://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/sep/27/mona-ladies-lounge-exhibit-discrimination-case-banning-men-appeal-overturned
The men just have to say “I’m a lady” and they’ll be admitted, so it’s fuss over zilch.
Bubblecar said:
BACK after a pleasant nocturnal walk and lifting exercise.**Bags contained 3 x Cooper’s longnecks, 2 x bottles shiraz, 1 x white, 1 x bubbly.
Any nibbles for tomorrow?
sarahs mum said:
Mona’s Ladies Lounge wins appeal in bid to continue barring men from entry
Tasmania’s supreme court handed down its decision in the discrimination case on Friday, sending it back to a tribunalhttps://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/sep/27/mona-ladies-lounge-exhibit-discrimination-case-banning-men-appeal-overturned
OK, that’s nice.
Anyway…
One drawback of losing weight: I could feel my drawers drooping on the way back, had to stop and discreetly hitch them up.
Have to order some smaller ones pronto.
furious said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:I’ll be barracking for Brisbane.
My apathy towards the outcome is unbounded.
Ultimately, the outcome is of no great concern to me, but it beats two flies walking up a wall….
As long as a non-Victorian team wins.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Mona’s Ladies Lounge wins appeal in bid to continue barring men from entry
Tasmania’s supreme court handed down its decision in the discrimination case on Friday, sending it back to a tribunalhttps://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/sep/27/mona-ladies-lounge-exhibit-discrimination-case-banning-men-appeal-overturned
OK, that’s nice.
Anyway…
i remember when ladies were only allowed in the lounge.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK after a pleasant nocturnal walk and lifting exercise.**Bags contained 3 x Cooper’s longnecks, 2 x bottles shiraz, 1 x white, 1 x bubbly.
Any nibbles for tomorrow?
That all arrived in my Coles order. Various cheeses, olives, pickles, crackers, Bhuja Beer Mix etc.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Mona’s Ladies Lounge wins appeal in bid to continue barring men from entry
Tasmania’s supreme court handed down its decision in the discrimination case on Friday, sending it back to a tribunalhttps://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/sep/27/mona-ladies-lounge-exhibit-discrimination-case-banning-men-appeal-overturned
The men just have to say “I’m a lady” and they’ll be admitted, so it’s fuss over zilch.
We are ladies.

party_pants said:
furious said:
captain_spalding said:My apathy towards the outcome is unbounded.
Ultimately, the outcome is of no great concern to me, but it beats two flies walking up a wall….
As long as a non-Victorian team wins.
They both are spirituality linked to Melbourne, Fitzroy and South Melbourne…
furious said:
party_pants said:
furious said:Ultimately, the outcome is of no great concern to me, but it beats two flies walking up a wall….
As long as a non-Victorian team wins.
They both are spirituality linked to Melbourne, Fitzroy and South Melbourne…
I always had a soft spot for the Bears, going way back to when they and the Coast Eagles were the first two expansion teams. But that’s over 30 years ago now. I’m getting old.
furious said:
party_pants said:
furious said:Ultimately, the outcome is of no great concern to me, but it beats two flies walking up a wall….
As long as a non-Victorian team wins.
They both are spirituality linked to Melbourne, Fitzroy and South Melbourne…
Presumably that’s why the Grand Final must be played in Melbourne.
To pay tribute to their ‘ancestors’, as part of the religious rites of AFL, to give thanks to the Melbourne citizenry who nurtured the cult, and to oblige ‘foreigners’ from e.g. Sydney and Brisbane to undertake a pilgrimage to the creed’s spirtual home.
captain_spalding said:
furious said:
party_pants said:As long as a non-Victorian team wins.
They both are spirituality linked to Melbourne, Fitzroy and South Melbourne…
Presumably that’s why the Grand Final must be played in Melbourne.
To pay tribute to their ‘ancestors’, as part of the religious rites of AFL, to give thanks to the Melbourne citizenry who nurtured the cult, and to oblige ‘foreigners’ from e.g. Sydney and Brisbane to undertake a pilgrimage to the creed’s spirtual home.
No, it’s deeper than that, it’s all about the mighty dollar…
furious said:
captain_spalding said:
furious said:They both are spirituality linked to Melbourne, Fitzroy and South Melbourne…
Presumably that’s why the Grand Final must be played in Melbourne.
To pay tribute to their ‘ancestors’, as part of the religious rites of AFL, to give thanks to the Melbourne citizenry who nurtured the cult, and to oblige ‘foreigners’ from e.g. Sydney and Brisbane to undertake a pilgrimage to the creed’s spirtual home.
No, it’s deeper than that, it’s all about the mighty dollar…
Do the Melbourne denizens comfort themselves with the thought that, deep down, under their infidel trappings, these are ‘really’ Melbourne teams?
captain_spalding said:
furious said:
captain_spalding said:Presumably that’s why the Grand Final must be played in Melbourne.
To pay tribute to their ‘ancestors’, as part of the religious rites of AFL, to give thanks to the Melbourne citizenry who nurtured the cult, and to oblige ‘foreigners’ from e.g. Sydney and Brisbane to undertake a pilgrimage to the creed’s spirtual home.
No, it’s deeper than that, it’s all about the mighty dollar…
Do the Melbourne denizens comfort themselves with the thought that, deep down, under their infidel trappings, these are ‘really’ Melbourne teams?
Probably.
Part of it is the deep-seated inferiority complex. Melbourians (is that word?) claim to be the Australian “capital” of so many things: the fashion capital, the coffee capital, the arts capital.. an of course the sporting capital. So they have stitched up a long term deal amongst themselves with the MCG to host the final, except in extreme cases like the COVID lockdowns. Grantyed it is the largest stadium n the country by quite some masrgin and usually sells out. So there’s lots of bums on lots of highly priced seats
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
furious said:No, it’s deeper than that, it’s all about the mighty dollar…
Do the Melbourne denizens comfort themselves with the thought that, deep down, under their infidel trappings, these are ‘really’ Melbourne teams?
Probably.
Part of it is the deep-seated inferiority complex. Melbourians (is that word?) claim to be the Australian “capital” of so many things: the fashion capital, the coffee capital, the arts capital.. an of course the sporting capital. So they have stitched up a long term deal amongst themselves with the MCG to host the final, except in extreme cases like the COVID lockdowns. Grantyed it is the largest stadium n the country by quite some masrgin and usually sells out. So there’s lots of bums on lots of highly priced seats
You’ll rouse Tamb from his deep slumber with words like those.
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Do the Melbourne denizens comfort themselves with the thought that, deep down, under their infidel trappings, these are ‘really’ Melbourne teams?
Probably.
Part of it is the deep-seated inferiority complex. Melbourians (is that word?) claim to be the Australian “capital” of so many things: the fashion capital, the coffee capital, the arts capital.. an of course the sporting capital. So they have stitched up a long term deal amongst themselves with the MCG to host the final, except in extreme cases like the COVID lockdowns. Grantyed it is the largest stadium n the country by quite some masrgin and usually sells out. So there’s lots of bums on lots of highly priced seats
You’ll rouse Tamb from his deep slumber with words like those.
It’s FNDC and i’ll rouse the fucking Devil if I want to :p
Some of last night’s entertainment.


party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:Probably.
Part of it is the deep-seated inferiority complex. Melbourians (is that word?) claim to be the Australian “capital” of so many things: the fashion capital, the coffee capital, the arts capital.. an of course the sporting capital. So they have stitched up a long term deal amongst themselves with the MCG to host the final, except in extreme cases like the COVID lockdowns. Grantyed it is the largest stadium n the country by quite some masrgin and usually sells out. So there’s lots of bums on lots of highly priced seats
You’ll rouse Tamb from his deep slumber with words like those.
It’s FNDC and i’ll rouse the fucking Devil if I want to :p
Yep, FNDC here too. It’s been a big week. There’s a slim chance that I might get last xmas’s holidays about mid October.
Cheers all.
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:You’ll rouse Tamb from his deep slumber with words like those.
It’s FNDC and i’ll rouse the fucking Devil if I want to :p
Yep, FNDC here too. It’s been a big week. There’s a slim chance that I might get last xmas’s holidays about mid October.
Cheers all.
Cheers :)
watching various
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqabT21d8VM
Something weird happens when you keep squeezing
transition said:
watching various
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqabT21d8VM
Something weird happens when you keep squeezing
Ta, watched that.
Why the government won’t let you see its best tool for forecasting hurricanes
The lack of access to this model is spurring concerns that NOAA is holding back information that could help people prepare for deadly storms.
By Dan Stillman and Scott Dance
September 26, 2024 at 7:00 a.m. EDT
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration for four years has used a hurricane forecasting tool that often surpasses all others in its accuracy, but it won’t release its predictions to the public, spurring concerns that it is holding back information that could help people prepare for deadly storms.
The tool, known as the HCCA model, was developed by NOAA as part of a program to reduce errors in hurricane forecasts. Statistics published by NOAA’s National Hurricane Center show that from 2020 to 2023, HCCA was one of the two best models for forecasting a storm’s track and intensity. In 2022, HCCA provided the most accurate track forecasts for all lead times out to four days, even beating the Hurricane Center’s official forecast.
The HCCA model produced superior two-day and three-day track forecasts to the Hurricane Center during Ian, the devastating Category 4 hurricane that struck Florida in late September 2022. That hurricane was particularly hard to predict, and better track forecasts could have improved evacuation decisions and saved lives.
But because of agreements with a vendor, NOAA has refused to release the model’s results to the public. With a massive storm headed toward a U.S. landfall this week, critics of the agreement argue taxpayer-funded forecasts should be freely and openly available. They say the model’s forecast could be highlighted in television and online graphics as one of the more reliable scenarios given its track record.
“The HCCA is the gold standard in modern consensus modeling, and if it were available, we would show it,” Bryan Norcross, Fox Weather hurricane specialist, said in an email.
The HCCA, or Hurricane Forecast Improvement Program (HFIP) Corrected Consensus Approach model, is one of more than 25 models used by the National Hurricane Center and is often referenced in its forecast discussions. It uses a proprietary technique, obtained from the private weather risk firm now known as RenaissanceRe Risk Sciences, to blend forecasts from other hurricane forecast models.
“HCCA combines input from a number of models in a way that is weighted by their past performance,” Mark DeMaria, senior research scientist at Colorado State University and co-author of a research article describing the model, said in an email. “That allows biases from individual models to cancel each other and provide a more accurate forecast.”
The agreement signed in 2020 by NOAA and the company enabled the agency to collaborate with the firm but does not allow the government to provide compensation. It states HCCA forecasts are “trade secrets and confidential information” that “shall not be publicly disclosed or disseminated” for a period of five years from the effective date of the agreement. The terms of the agreement were released to The Washington Post in response to a Freedom of Information Act request.
Some worry the model’s inaccessibility sets a bad precedent for future partnerships between the government and private industry if it keeps potentially lifesaving information from the public.
Maureen O’Leary, a National Weather Service spokesperson, said the agency strives for unrestricted public access to data and models but that “we must honor legal agreements made.”
She added that NOAA is “constantly evaluating new opportunities to improve our products and services and seeks to find the appropriate balance to share that information publicly.”
A company spokesperson for RenaissanceRe said in an email that its collaboration with NOAA is “one of many public-private partnerships … which encourages risk knowledge sharing so communities around the world can better protect themselves.”
Some private weather providers, however, have voiced concerns about the lack of access to the model’s forecasts.
“This HCCA model … was developed at NOAA obviously using taxpayer resources,” Jonathan Porter, senior vice president at the forecasting services company AccuWeather, said in an interview. “This is an urgent public safety issue. It’s about ensuring … that we all have access to the same critical data as the Hurricane Center to effectively understand and communicate risks to people in harm’s way.”
Baron Weather, a longtime provider of weather content to broadcast media, also supports wider access to the model.
“It would certainly be a welcome addition for all broadcast meteorologists and assist them in communicating tropical forecast information and hazards to their viewers,” Bob Dreisewerd, the company’s chief executive, said in an email to The Post.
Open data policies challenged by commercial business models
NOAA plans to start making HCCA forecasts publicly available after its five-year agreement with RenaissanceRe, previously known as WeatherPredict Consulting, expires in March. “It is our intent to publicly release real-time HCCA model output and the source code before the start of the 2025 hurricane season,” O’Leary said in an email.
Porter said AccuWeather is “delighted that NOAA … will make HCCA forecast guidance available to meteorologists across the country so that they can better understand the rationale behind the National Hurricane Center’s forecast and warnings.”
But, he argues, restricted access to the model during this and previous hurricane seasons has been “a major setback” that “goes against the basic principles of … free and open distribution of government-based data.”
“It’s setting a very precarious precedent … threatening to unravel and reverse over 50 years of progress that’s been achieved through the cooperation of the government, academic and private sectors,” Porter said. It “raises the question of what won’t be distributed next.”
U.S. weather forecasting has long been a collaborative endeavor. Historically, NOAA and its international government partners have provided the foundational sensors and systems for making forecasts while the private sector helps to widely disseminate predictions and creates specialized products and services. The 2003 National Academies’ “Fair Weather” report helped define the roles of the U.S. government, private sector and academia at a time of growing friction between the sectors due to their increasingly overlapping roles.
The report noted “the government’s obligation to make its information as widely available as possible to those who paid for it — the taxpayers,” but also recognized the challenges of government-industry partnerships and the desire for policy “that permits commercial objectives to be achieved.”
The lines between the U.S. weather sectors have become even more blurred in recent years as the private sector has built up capabilities that were once exclusively undertaken by governments. NOAA now buys commercial satellite, aircraft and ground data and is collaborating with private companies that have recently built powerful AI weather models.
“The weather enterprise has become a lot more complicated in the past decade, with more observations and modeling being done by private-sector entities,” Keith Seitter, executive director emeritus at the American Meteorological Society, said in an email. “This has challenged the historical approach having all the data being openly and freely distributed … because the private-sector producers often need to protect their intellectual property as part of their business model.”
Seitter and Mary Glackin, former deputy undersecretary for operations at NOAA, are among those leading an American Meteorological Society study looking at the state of the weather enterprise two decades after the “Fair Weather” report. Glackin, now chair of the National Academies’ Board of Atmospheric Sciences and Climate, said policy around commercial weather data and technology acquisition presents a growing challenge.
“Plans must be a balance of public good and costs while also considering maintaining a vibrant U.S. private sector,” Glackin said in an email. “I suspect each opportunity will need to be weighed independently — at least until we have more experience.”
New policy guidance published in July by NOAA addresses the challenge of balancing public and commercial interests, stating that its “programs and offices should seek to maximize the public benefit derived from environmental data and data products obtained through commercial solutions by negotiating the least restrictive terms of use possible.”
Andrew Rosenberg, a former NOAA official and a senior fellow at the University of New Hampshire’s Carsey School of Public Policy, said the confidentiality requirements that come along with NOAA’s commercial partnerships can sometimes be too broad, at the expense of transparency that is designed to instill trust in its work.
That is especially concerning when it comes to weather forecasts that are meant to serve public health and safety, Rosenberg added. “I do think it’s problematic,” he said. “That isn’t really the way you want to serve the public interest.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2024/09/26/noaa-hurricane-model-hcca-accuweather/?
https://www.vulture.com/article/sza-hot-ones-bug-makeup-album-tease.html

only one reason I can think of you’d do this.
Bogsnorkler said:
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only one reason I can think of you’d do this.
it doesn’t hash anymore.
When wanting English smoked cheddar I usually get the Coles-own labelled import, but this time tried the “Westminster” branded example.
Verdict: it’s too smoky. The overdone oak smoke produces a slightly bitter and dirty “bushfire’ taste that’s not altogether pleasant, although the finish is agreeably creamy.

Aristarchus is the brightest crater on the moon, and relatively young at around 450 million years old.
Here is its interior viewed from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter. Despite those 450 million years, it still seems a site of recent devastation, the violent impact that formed it still ringing.
Height from base to rim is 2.7km, considerably deeper than the Grand Canyon.


Maggie Smith, the prolific, multi-award-winning actor described by peers as being “one-of-a-kind” and possessed of a “sharp eye, sharp wit and formidable talent”, has died aged 89.
Her work, which ranged from The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie to Harry Potter to Downton Abbey, brought her global recognition, as well as two Oscars and eight Baftas.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/sep/27/maggie-smith-oscar-winning-star-of-stage-and-screen-dies-aged-89

Minor cyclone out there blowin away
sarahs mum said:
Maggie Smith, the prolific, multi-award-winning actor described by peers as being “one-of-a-kind” and possessed of a “sharp eye, sharp wit and formidable talent”, has died aged 89.Her work, which ranged from The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie to Harry Potter to Downton Abbey, brought her global recognition, as well as two Oscars and eight Baftas.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/sep/27/maggie-smith-oscar-winning-star-of-stage-and-screen-dies-aged-89
She had a good knock.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees at the back door and there is a little light cloud around. The yellow tailed black cockatoos are calling. We are forecast a mostly sunny 21 degrees.
I plan on visiting the local cemetery shortly to photograph the wildflowers again. And after 9.00am I’ll make a start on chipping the prunings and assorted stuff that came down in the wind in the last couple of months. There is a lot of Eucalyptus bark to go through. It makes fabulous mulch.
From my Quora readings this morning:
“Newton revised the physical model in order for the newly revised physical model to match his mathematical model. The physical model from Vahara Mihira proposed that the BIG attracted the SMALL, but BIG did not attract BIG. The “new” physical model by Newton proposed that BIG attracted BIG. As I said, BIG attracting BIG matches the mathematical equation. The problem is that the “new” physical model proposed by Newton is WRONG..WRONG..WRONG.. Of course, the mathematical model is WRONG.. if the physical model is WRONG Both Vahara Mihira and Newton (and Einstein) proposed UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION and that universal gravitation governed CELESTIAL MECHANICS. WRONG.”
Written by a “Former Certified Poultry Plumage Extraction Technician”.
How can anyone argue with someone with qualifications like that?

At least Alexis R Jimenez thinks I’m funny.
Morning punters.
Racing at Toowoomba today, it’s a twilight meeting which I’m not keen on.
In the Weetwood however the top weight Yellow Brick should be there abouts.
Weather overcast, track a soft 5.
Over.
Ian said:
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Minor cyclone out there blowin away
It’s making it quite windy here today.
Michael V said:
Ian said:
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Minor cyclone out there blowin away
It’s making it quite windy here today.
Looks scary. Is it a full blown coastal low?
The Rev Dodgson said:
From my Quora readings this morning:“Newton revised the physical model in order for the newly revised physical model to match his mathematical model. The physical model from Vahara Mihira proposed that the BIG attracted the SMALL, but BIG did not attract BIG. The “new” physical model by Newton proposed that BIG attracted BIG. As I said, BIG attracting BIG matches the mathematical equation. The problem is that the “new” physical model proposed by Newton is WRONG..WRONG..WRONG.. Of course, the mathematical model is WRONG.. if the physical model is WRONG Both Vahara Mihira and Newton (and Einstein) proposed UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION and that universal gravitation governed CELESTIAL MECHANICS. WRONG.”
Written by a “Former Certified Poultry Plumage Extraction Technician”.
How can anyone argue with someone with qualifications like that?
A feather plucker may easily lose count.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Ian said:
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Minor cyclone out there blowin away
It’s making it quite windy here today.
Looks scary. Is it a full blown coastal low?
No. Just a windy low.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:It’s making it quite windy here today.
Looks scary. Is it a full blown coastal low?
No. Just a windy low.
Windier than a farting donkey then?
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
From my Quora readings this morning:“Newton revised the physical model in order for the newly revised physical model to match his mathematical model. The physical model from Vahara Mihira proposed that the BIG attracted the SMALL, but BIG did not attract BIG. The “new” physical model by Newton proposed that BIG attracted BIG. As I said, BIG attracting BIG matches the mathematical equation. The problem is that the “new” physical model proposed by Newton is WRONG..WRONG..WRONG.. Of course, the mathematical model is WRONG.. if the physical model is WRONG Both Vahara Mihira and Newton (and Einstein) proposed UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION and that universal gravitation governed CELESTIAL MECHANICS. WRONG.”
Written by a “Former Certified Poultry Plumage Extraction Technician”.
How can anyone argue with someone with qualifications like that?
A feather plucker may easily lose count.
Frankly, I’m not even convinced he is really a pheasant plucker.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
From my Quora readings this morning:“Newton revised the physical model in order for the newly revised physical model to match his mathematical model. The physical model from Vahara Mihira proposed that the BIG attracted the SMALL, but BIG did not attract BIG. The “new” physical model by Newton proposed that BIG attracted BIG. As I said, BIG attracting BIG matches the mathematical equation. The problem is that the “new” physical model proposed by Newton is WRONG..WRONG..WRONG.. Of course, the mathematical model is WRONG.. if the physical model is WRONG Both Vahara Mihira and Newton (and Einstein) proposed UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION and that universal gravitation governed CELESTIAL MECHANICS. WRONG.”
Written by a “Former Certified Poultry Plumage Extraction Technician”.
How can anyone argue with someone with qualifications like that?
A feather plucker may easily lose count.
Frankly, I’m not even convinced he is really a pheasant plucker.
Didn’t know your name was Frank. ;)
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:A feather plucker may easily lose count.
Frankly, I’m not even convinced he is really a pheasant plucker.
Didn’t know your name was Frank. ;)
Frank Lee? How is he these days?
The Rev Dodgson said:
From my Quora readings this morning:“Newton revised the physical model in order for the newly revised physical model to match his mathematical model. The physical model from Vahara Mihira proposed that the BIG attracted the SMALL, but BIG did not attract BIG. The “new” physical model by Newton proposed that BIG attracted BIG. As I said, BIG attracting BIG matches the mathematical equation. The problem is that the “new” physical model proposed by Newton is WRONG..WRONG..WRONG.. Of course, the mathematical model is WRONG.. if the physical model is WRONG Both Vahara Mihira and Newton (and Einstein) proposed UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION and that universal gravitation governed CELESTIAL MECHANICS. WRONG.”
Written by a “Former Certified Poultry Plumage Extraction Technician”.
How can anyone argue with someone with qualifications like that?
one can’t. and it’s useless to try.
blowing a strong wind outside the inside, a defiant unstillness, frail people should not go outside unassisted, and children should be discouraged from flying their kites

This exists
dv said:
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This exists
I suppose it must do, or we couldn’t see it.
But what is the meaning hidden within?
That is the question.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Frankly, I’m not even convinced he is really a pheasant plucker.
Didn’t know your name was Frank. ;)
Frank Lee? How is he these days?
He’s an Honest chap.
i’ll sharpens a chainsaw, the blades, the cutting edges of the cutters on the chain
everyone stay seated, i’ve got this
transition said:
i’ll sharpens a chainsaw, the blades, the cutting edges of the cutters on the chaineveryone stay seated, i’ve got this
When you are done, you can fo mine?
roughbarked said:
transition said:
i’ll sharpens a chainsaw, the blades, the cutting edges of the cutters on the chaineveryone stay seated, i’ve got this
When you are done, you can fo mine?
I got fed up with fussing with files etc. when it wastime to sharpen the chainsaw, so i bought one of these from Bunnings:

They were a bit cheaper back then, but it does a grand job of sharpening the chain, and the gizmo doubles as a nifty little 12v Dremel-type appliance.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:
i’ll sharpens a chainsaw, the blades, the cutting edges of the cutters on the chaineveryone stay seated, i’ve got this
When you are done, you can fo mine?
I got fed up with fussing with files etc. when it wastime to sharpen the chainsaw, so i bought one of these from Bunnings:
They were a bit cheaper back then, but it does a grand job of sharpening the chain, and the gizmo doubles as a nifty little 12v Dremel-type appliance.
Yes. I’ve got two of those somewhere and before I find them again I’ll probaly go and buy a third. ;)
OK, I’ll have to concede defeat. Lifting a 20 litre container of petrol onto the back of the BT50 is getting beyond me. The tray is above my waist level so my arms are almost full stretch to get the thing up there. I’ve been having to swing it a bit to get it there for some time, but we will just have to get 10 litre containers instead.

Clearly.
.
The Extremely Large Telescope or ELT will be the most powerful optical telescope ever built.
When it opens for business in 2028, it promises to reshape our view of the cosmos.
Astronomers from more than a dozen countries will start bidding for the chance to use it — and Australians could be among them.
But that invitation currently hangs in the balance.


With its 39m main mirror, it will catch 15 times more starlight than the biggest telescopes on Earth to date and 40 times more than the James Webb Telescope.
Plus, with its ideal location and laser beams working to subtract the atmosphere’s twinkle, the ELT promises to pick out individual stars in faraway galaxies and transform the search for alien worlds.
“For the first time, we should be able to directly detect Earth-like planets, in Earth-like orbits, around stars like our Sun, over a big volume of the nearby galaxy,” says Matthew Colless, an astronomer at the Australian National University who served on the ESO governing council.
“So hopefully we’ll come up with a list of other Earth-like planets that we can try talking to and see if there’s anybody home.”..
The ELT 6,000-tonne building will rotate up to a full turn-and-a-half … The telescope inside will spin independently with microscopic precision, sliding on a hair’s width of oil …
The 39m main mirror will be a curved honeycomb of 798 hexagonal panels, each with three pistons and 12 edge sensors to maintain its perfect parabolic shape …
Both telescope and dome rest on dozens of custom-designed seismic devices to cushion the $2.4 billion machine from Chile’s famous earthquakes.
buffy said:
OK, I’ll have to concede defeat. Lifting a 20 litre container of petrol onto the back of the BT50 is getting beyond me. The tray is above my waist level so my arms are almost full stretch to get the thing up there. I’ve been having to swing it a bit to get it there for some time, but we will just have to get 10 litre containers instead.
Install a ship’s winch or a lift?
buffy said:
OK, I’ll have to concede defeat. Lifting a 20 litre container of petrol onto the back of the BT50 is getting beyond me. The tray is above my waist level so my arms are almost full stretch to get the thing up there. I’ve been having to swing it a bit to get it there for some time, but we will just have to get 10 litre containers instead.
Two 10 litre containers is possibly a wise move.
Not only are they easier to handle, but if one container is damaged or contaminated in some way, the other is still OK.
I have my own burden, as the Barely-Domesticated Wolf is advancing in years, and i now spare his arthritic joints by lifting his 25kg into and out of vehicles.
transition said:
i’ll sharpens a chainsaw, the blades, the cutting edges of the cutters on the chaineveryone stay seated, i’ve got this
While your at it, I’ve got a couple here that need doing
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
OK, I’ll have to concede defeat. Lifting a 20 litre container of petrol onto the back of the BT50 is getting beyond me. The tray is above my waist level so my arms are almost full stretch to get the thing up there. I’ve been having to swing it a bit to get it there for some time, but we will just have to get 10 litre containers instead.
Two 10 litre containers is possibly a wise move.
Not only are they easier to handle, but if one container is damaged or contaminated in some way, the other is still OK.
I have my own burden, as the Barely-Domesticated Wolf is advancing in years, and i now spare his arthritic joints by lifting his 25kg into and out of vehicles.
Try a 35kg boxer who refuses to help in any way
Ian said:
The Extremely Large Telescope
Clearly.
.
The Extremely Large Telescope or ELT will be the most powerful optical telescope ever built.
When it opens for business in 2028, it promises to reshape our view of the cosmos.
Astronomers from more than a dozen countries will start bidding for the chance to use it — and Australians could be among them.
But that invitation currently hangs in the balance.
With its 39m main mirror, it will catch 15 times more starlight than the biggest telescopes on Earth to date and 40 times more than the James Webb Telescope.
Plus, with its ideal location and laser beams working to subtract the atmosphere’s twinkle, the ELT promises to pick out individual stars in faraway galaxies and transform the search for alien worlds.
“For the first time, we should be able to directly detect Earth-like planets, in Earth-like orbits, around stars like our Sun, over a big volume of the nearby galaxy,” says Matthew Colless, an astronomer at the Australian National University who served on the ESO governing council.
“So hopefully we’ll come up with a list of other Earth-like planets that we can try talking to and see if there’s anybody home.”..
The ELT 6,000-tonne building will rotate up to a full turn-and-a-half … The telescope inside will spin independently with microscopic precision, sliding on a hair’s width of oil …
The 39m main mirror will be a curved honeycomb of 798 hexagonal panels, each with three pistons and 12 edge sensors to maintain its perfect parabolic shape …
Both telescope and dome rest on dozens of custom-designed seismic devices to cushion the $2.4 billion machine from Chile’s famous earthquakes.
Deserves a thread I think.
kryten said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
OK, I’ll have to concede defeat. Lifting a 20 litre container of petrol onto the back of the BT50 is getting beyond me. The tray is above my waist level so my arms are almost full stretch to get the thing up there. I’ve been having to swing it a bit to get it there for some time, but we will just have to get 10 litre containers instead.
Two 10 litre containers is possibly a wise move.
Not only are they easier to handle, but if one container is damaged or contaminated in some way, the other is still OK.
I have my own burden, as the Barely-Domesticated Wolf is advancing in years, and i now spare his arthritic joints by lifting his 25kg into and out of vehicles.
Try a 35kg boxer who refuses to help in any way
He can bloody well walk home.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:
i’ll sharpens a chainsaw, the blades, the cutting edges of the cutters on the chaineveryone stay seated, i’ve got this
When you are done, you can fo mine?
I got fed up with fussing with files etc. when it wastime to sharpen the chainsaw, so i bought one of these from Bunnings:
They were a bit cheaper back then, but it does a grand job of sharpening the chain, and the gizmo doubles as a nifty little 12v Dremel-type appliance.
I have something similar, and used it for years. Fill the fuel tank, sharpen the chain. Two or three minutes extra saves lots of time cutting.
Peak Warming Man said:
Ian said:The Extremely Large Telescope
Clearly.
.
The Extremely Large Telescope or ELT will be the most powerful optical telescope ever built.
When it opens for business in 2028, it promises to reshape our view of the cosmos.
Astronomers from more than a dozen countries will start bidding for the chance to use it — and Australians could be among them.
But that invitation currently hangs in the balance.
With its 39m main mirror, it will catch 15 times more starlight than the biggest telescopes on Earth to date and 40 times more than the James Webb Telescope.
Plus, with its ideal location and laser beams working to subtract the atmosphere’s twinkle, the ELT promises to pick out individual stars in faraway galaxies and transform the search for alien worlds.
“For the first time, we should be able to directly detect Earth-like planets, in Earth-like orbits, around stars like our Sun, over a big volume of the nearby galaxy,” says Matthew Colless, an astronomer at the Australian National University who served on the ESO governing council.
“So hopefully we’ll come up with a list of other Earth-like planets that we can try talking to and see if there’s anybody home.”..
The ELT 6,000-tonne building will rotate up to a full turn-and-a-half … The telescope inside will spin independently with microscopic precision, sliding on a hair’s width of oil …
The 39m main mirror will be a curved honeycomb of 798 hexagonal panels, each with three pistons and 12 edge sensors to maintain its perfect parabolic shape …
Both telescope and dome rest on dozens of custom-designed seismic devices to cushion the $2.4 billion machine from Chile’s famous earthquakes.
Deserves a thread I think.
Go for it.
Ian said:
The Extremely Large Telescope
Clearly.
.
The Extremely Large Telescope or ELT will be the most powerful optical telescope ever built.
When it opens for business in 2028, it promises to reshape our view of the cosmos.
Astronomers from more than a dozen countries will start bidding for the chance to use it — and Australians could be among them.
But that invitation currently hangs in the balance.
With its 39m main mirror, it will catch 15 times more starlight than the biggest telescopes on Earth to date and 40 times more than the James Webb Telescope.
Plus, with its ideal location and laser beams working to subtract the atmosphere’s twinkle, the ELT promises to pick out individual stars in faraway galaxies and transform the search for alien worlds.
“For the first time, we should be able to directly detect Earth-like planets, in Earth-like orbits, around stars like our Sun, over a big volume of the nearby galaxy,” says Matthew Colless, an astronomer at the Australian National University who served on the ESO governing council.
“So hopefully we’ll come up with a list of other Earth-like planets that we can try talking to and see if there’s anybody home.”..
The ELT 6,000-tonne building will rotate up to a full turn-and-a-half … The telescope inside will spin independently with microscopic precision, sliding on a hair’s width of oil …
The 39m main mirror will be a curved honeycomb of 798 hexagonal panels, each with three pistons and 12 edge sensors to maintain its perfect parabolic shape …
Both telescope and dome rest on dozens of custom-designed seismic devices to cushion the $2.4 billion machine from Chile’s famous earthquakes.
Nice.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2024/sep/27/once-thought-to-be-extinct-the-mysterious-night-parrot-is-back-in-the-news-is-it-saved
Sharpening chainsaws in the right way is essential to enable effective work with chainsaws. The STIHL file holder helps you to resharpen efficiently and safely by bringing together 2 work steps in a combination sharpener. A round file and flat file are already integrated in the 2-in-1 file holder with file tolerance compensation (only for STIHL). This makes it possible for you to resharpen teeth quickly and easily while resetting the saw chain’s depth gauges, without needing to change working tool.

what I have.
Dr Karl Kruszelnicki has a visceral response when I tell him I’ve just finished reading his 400-page memoir.
“All of it?” he gasps. “Oh my god, I’m sorry.”
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/sep/28/dr-karl-kruszelnicki-having-been-beaten-unconscious-really-changes-your-life
sarahs mum said:
Dr Karl Kruszelnicki has a visceral response when I tell him I’ve just finished reading his 400-page memoir.“All of it?” he gasps. “Oh my god, I’m sorry.”
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/sep/28/dr-karl-kruszelnicki-having-been-beaten-unconscious-really-changes-your-life
Nice article.
I’d forgotten (if I ever knew) just how varied his life had been.
it’s rainified and cold in the Pearl.
Peak Warming Man said:
it’s rainified and cold in the Pearl.
Rain has just started here, and what with that wind, it is quite bitter outside.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:
i’ll sharpens a chainsaw, the blades, the cutting edges of the cutters on the chaineveryone stay seated, i’ve got this
When you are done, you can fo mine?
I got fed up with fussing with files etc. when it wastime to sharpen the chainsaw, so i bought one of these from Bunnings:
They were a bit cheaper back then, but it does a grand job of sharpening the chain, and the gizmo doubles as a nifty little 12v Dremel-type appliance.
what I use, same
and done, refueled, oil etc
blowing crazy out there, outside the inside
cup of tea and a Telfast, keeps the histamine monsters under control
north fence sprinklers going, dampen dust etc
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
Bubblecar said:
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
no goat or geese?
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
no goat or geese?
they’re eating the pets.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
no goat or geese?
Beef, pork, lamb, camel, goat, geese and giraffe.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
no goat or geese?
they’re eating the pets.
Deport them to Nauru!
I turns fence sprinkler off, the rainlies has started, stoke fires now is safe
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
no goat or geese?
they’re eating the pets.
Like a pulp, you beat me to it
Bubblecar said:
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
What are “GF players”?
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
What are “GF players”?
footballers.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
What are “GF players”?
Grand Final
starting in a little under 2 hours from now.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
What are “GF players”?
Grand Final
starting in a little under 2 hours from now.
OIC.
Ta.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
What are “GF players”?
Players for coeliacs.
Peak Warming Man said:
it’s rainified and cold in the Pearl.
It’s bright and sunny here. There is a little bit of wind. I started dripping sweat while pushing stuff through the chipper and mowing. I’ve decided that is enough muscle work for today. There is more chipping and mowing to do, but I will read this afternoon.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
What are “GF players”?
Players for coeliacs.
OIC but how does a gluten free players smoke like?
I’d probably prefer the full fat camels, I’d walk a mile for.
Looks like OCDC has genuinely abandoned us this time, she’s been gone for a week or more.

Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
GF players are now eating huge roast meat lunches with no vegetables, just plates heaped high with beef, pork, lamb and camel.
What are “GF players”?
Players for coeliacs.
Yes, last night, just for a moment, i thought it was about a theatre company made up entirely of people on gluten-free diets.
“What we did was we made a semiconductor device … it takes advantage of that radiant heat that’s leaving the Earth, and as that light is emitted, it generates some electricity,” team lead Ned Ekins-Daukes told ABC News.
The device is the size of an entire laboratory at UNSW and is still in its infancy and can only generate about 100,000 times less than that supplied by a solar panel.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-28/infrared-light-power-generation-unsw/104344544
Just stop. Please.
dv said:
“What we did was we made a semiconductor device … it takes advantage of that radiant heat that’s leaving the Earth, and as that light is emitted, it generates some electricity,” team lead Ned Ekins-Daukes told ABC News.The device is the size of an entire laboratory at UNSW and is still in its infancy and can only generate about 100,000 times less than that supplied by a solar panel.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-28/infrared-light-power-generation-unsw/104344544
Just stop. Please.
!
I was wandering around looking for where the frogmouths are nesting and guess what flew out of this hole?

Why, it was this red rumped grass parrot wasn’t it.
roughbarked said:
I was wandering around looking for where the frogmouths are nesting and guess what flew out of this hole?
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Why, it was this red rumped grass parrot wasn’t it.
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:)
Cute photo of the week.

Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
I was wandering around looking for where the frogmouths are nesting and guess what flew out of this hole?
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Why, it was this red rumped grass parrot wasn’t it.
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:)
I believe this could well be the frogmouth’s nest but they weren’t ‘ome at the time.

she who was pink in the SSSF posted today…
There was stuff happening in the sky as well as on the ground yesterday and early this morning…
We have a comet visiting our skies for a couple more days before it take a break and reappears in mid October after sunset… the moon was up early this morning too! And there’s a big fat Venus hanging low over Casilda House last night…



https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/461662381_8250040601754835_6852161879423513805_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=kYmlWBJAypcQ7kNvgH3xmEU&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&_nc_gid=ANhsdlyKbMiRwr-2XMZVuuL&oh=00_AYBvhItyaVmQCWvuoAcQ8OE8ciD-wgfmyfWjPSE-ef-02Q&oe=66FD639F!
!
sarahs mum said:
she who was pink in the SSSF posted today…There was stuff happening in the sky as well as on the ground yesterday and early this morning…
We have a comet visiting our skies for a couple more days before it take a break and reappears in mid October after sunset… the moon was up early this morning too! And there’s a big fat Venus hanging low over Casilda House last night…
https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/461662381_8250040601754835_6852161879423513805_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=kYmlWBJAypcQ7kNvgH3xmEU&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&_nc_gid=ANhsdlyKbMiRwr-2XMZVuuL&oh=00_AYBvhItyaVmQCWvuoAcQ8OE8ciD-wgfmyfWjPSE-ef-02Q&oe=66FD639F!
!
cool. Great photos. :)
sarahs mum said:
she who was pink in the SSSF posted today…There was stuff happening in the sky as well as on the ground yesterday and early this morning…
We have a comet visiting our skies for a couple more days before it take a break and reappears in mid October after sunset… the moon was up early this morning too! And there’s a big fat Venus hanging low over Casilda House last night…
https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/461662381_8250040601754835_6852161879423513805_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=kYmlWBJAypcQ7kNvgH3xmEU&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&_nc_gid=ANhsdlyKbMiRwr-2XMZVuuL&oh=00_AYBvhItyaVmQCWvuoAcQ8OE8ciD-wgfmyfWjPSE-ef-02Q&oe=66FD639F!
!
I didn’t know there’s currently a comet! Haven’t heard a thing about it.
sarahs mum said:
she who was pink in the SSSF posted today…There was stuff happening in the sky as well as on the ground yesterday and early this morning…
We have a comet visiting our skies for a couple more days before it take a break and reappears in mid October after sunset… the moon was up early this morning too! And there’s a big fat Venus hanging low over Casilda House last night…
!
fixed.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
she who was pink in the SSSF posted today…There was stuff happening in the sky as well as on the ground yesterday and early this morning…
We have a comet visiting our skies for a couple more days before it take a break and reappears in mid October after sunset… the moon was up early this morning too! And there’s a big fat Venus hanging low over Casilda House last night…
https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/461662381_8250040601754835_6852161879423513805_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=kYmlWBJAypcQ7kNvgH3xmEU&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&_nc_gid=ANhsdlyKbMiRwr-2XMZVuuL&oh=00_AYBvhItyaVmQCWvuoAcQ8OE8ciD-wgfmyfWjPSE-ef-02Q&oe=66FD639F!
!
I didn’t know there’s currently a comet! Haven’t heard a thing about it.
It was on the abc news.
sarahs mum said:
she who was pink in the SSSF posted today…There was stuff happening in the sky as well as on the ground yesterday and early this morning…
We have a comet visiting our skies for a couple more days before it take a break and reappears in mid October after sunset… the moon was up early this morning too! And there’s a big fat Venus hanging low over Casilda House last night…
Nice bright comet.
https://theconversation.com/the-best-comet-of-the-year-is-finally-here-heres-everything-you-need-to-know-239300
University of New South Wales researchers make renewable energy breakthrough with radiant infrared heat sources
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-28/infrared-light-power-generation-unsw/104344544
Bubblecar said:
https://theconversation.com/the-best-comet-of-the-year-is-finally-here-heres-everything-you-need-to-know-239300
Ta.
sarahs mum said:
University of New South Wales researchers make renewable energy breakthrough with radiant infrared heat sourceshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-28/infrared-light-power-generation-unsw/104344544
So many ‘breakthroughs’ over the years by this uni and that lab, and by some bloke in his shed, and so forth.
Yet so few (if any) of them actually ever appear in an available, useful form some time down the track.
sarahs mum said:
University of New South Wales researchers make renewable energy breakthrough with radiant infrared heat sourceshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-28/infrared-light-power-generation-unsw/104344544
So many ‘breakthroughs’ over the years by this uni and that lab, and by some bloke in his shed, and so forth.
Yet so few (if any) of them actually ever appear in an available, useful form some time down the track.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
University of New South Wales researchers make renewable energy breakthrough with radiant infrared heat sourceshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-28/infrared-light-power-generation-unsw/104344544
So many ‘breakthroughs’ over the years by this uni and that lab, and by some bloke in his shed, and so forth.
Yet so few (if any) of them actually ever appear in an available, useful form some time down the track.
dv was scathing in his assessment of the reporting earlier.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
University of New South Wales researchers make renewable energy breakthrough with radiant infrared heat sourceshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-28/infrared-light-power-generation-unsw/104344544
So many ‘breakthroughs’ over the years by this uni and that lab, and by some bloke in his shed, and so forth.
Yet so few (if any) of them actually ever appear in an available, useful form some time down the track.
dv was scathing in his assessment of the reporting earlier.
Plus you learn from doing this stuff and who knows where it will lead. not all research has to be about making a dollar from it.
dinner will be top secret, as usual

transition said:
dinner will be top secret, as usual

transition said:
:)

The Mercury Newspaper
5h ·
Dramatic vision played inside a courtroom has shown the crux of a confrontation between loggers and forestry protesters in the south of Tasmania. Read what happened next 👉 https://bit.ly/3TNPuxv
can anyone find the story for me please?
sarahs mum said:
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The Mercury Newspaper
5h ·
Dramatic vision played inside a courtroom has shown the crux of a confrontation between loggers and forestry protesters in the south of Tasmania. Read what happened next 👉 https://bit.ly/3TNPuxvcan anyone find the story for me please?
https://bobbrown.org.au/tasmanian-logger-on-trial-over-alleged-assault-on-forest-defender/
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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The Mercury Newspaper
5h ·
Dramatic vision played inside a courtroom has shown the crux of a confrontation between loggers and forestry protesters in the south of Tasmania. Read what happened next 👉 https://bit.ly/3TNPuxvcan anyone find the story for me please?
https://bobbrown.org.au/tasmanian-logger-on-trial-over-alleged-assault-on-forest-defender/
This morning in Hobart Magistrates Court, a Tasmanian logger faced trial over an alleged assault that occurred against a peaceful forest protester who was defending critically endangered Swift Parrot habitat from logging. A young woman’s life was put at risk by the dangerous actions of Patrick Mellor at a logging area in southern Tasmania in May 2023.
“Our fellow forest defender was up high in a tree-sit on a cable logging machine when contractor Patrick Mellor climbed on one of the logging machines and was looking at the rope attached to the tree-sit. We warned him of the danger to the person in the tree-sit if the rope was tampered with. Then I heard Lenny on the platform screaming, her tree-sit fell a few metres, and the rope that attached her tree sit to the logging machines was gone,” said Charley Gros, on the witness stand today.
“This logger Mr Mellor has been present at several forest protests and knows how dangerous it is to tamper with these ropes. He was also informed at this protest that a person’s life was attached to the line, but went ahead and cut it anyway. Patrick Mellor has to be held accountable for the threat he posed to a young activist’s life. All of our protests are non-violent and forest defenders have never hurt anyone. They are there to protect Tasmania’s native forests, they don’t deserve to have their lives threatened by loggers,” said Jenny Weber.
“Tasmanian forest defenders regularly face abuse and assaults from members of the logging industry. This thuggish behaviour has gone on for years and needs to stop,” said Jenny Weber.
The trial is adjourned until 28 November.
spalding…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFp95wkYgZ8
new white lines.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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The Mercury Newspaper
5h ·
Dramatic vision played inside a courtroom has shown the crux of a confrontation between loggers and forestry protesters in the south of Tasmania. Read what happened next 👉 https://bit.ly/3TNPuxvcan anyone find the story for me please?
https://bobbrown.org.au/tasmanian-logger-on-trial-over-alleged-assault-on-forest-defender/
ta. :)
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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The Mercury Newspaper
5h ·
Dramatic vision played inside a courtroom has shown the crux of a confrontation between loggers and forestry protesters in the south of Tasmania. Read what happened next 👉 https://bit.ly/3TNPuxvcan anyone find the story for me please?
https://bobbrown.org.au/tasmanian-logger-on-trial-over-alleged-assault-on-forest-defender/
ta. :)
Assault? Shouldn’t it be attempted manslaughter?
Anyone need a new chair?

Kingy said:
Anyone need a new chair?
That’s a bit unsettling.
Kingy said:
Anyone need a new chair?
Ewww. Creepy chair
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 9 degrees at the back door and it has been steadily gently raining for some hours. I’m guessing we have probably had around 5mm so far. We are forecast 17 degrees with showers.
I haven’t decided on today’s activities. It may involve sewing, baking a cake (or cakelets, a cake is a bit big for two of us. It’s better to patty pan the mix and freeze some after cooking). It will certainly include some time doing identifications on iNaturalist.
I just looked back through the overnight posts and the ones of Kingy’s in the meme thread don’t load whatever the picture/meme is. If I copy and try to open in another tab I get an imgur thing that says it can’t be loaded because it has errors.
Was flying through it until I started getting them wrong.

roughbarked said:
Sunday TriviaWas flying through it until I started getting them wrong.
did you have to post a picture of that smarmy git?
roughbarked said:
Sunday TriviaWas flying through it until I started getting them wrong.
15/50. I knew one and guessed one right.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Sunday TriviaWas flying through it until I started getting them wrong.
15/50. I knew one and guessed one right.
roughbarked said:
Sunday TriviaWas flying through it until I started getting them wrong.
Same as you (but only with PWM scoring)
30/100
Even got the computer one wrong, but that was just being careless.
Bogsnorkler said:
roughbarked said:
Sunday TriviaWas flying through it until I started getting them wrong.
did you have to post a picture of that smarmy git?
It doesn’t lessen his smarminess.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Sunday TriviaWas flying through it until I started getting them wrong.
15/50. I knew one and guessed one right.
Thank you. I’ve been looking for a suitable epithet and smarmy git is perfect.
“smarmy: extremely polite or helpful or showing a lot of respect in a way that is annoying or does not seem sincere”
Extremely polite or helpful?
showing a lot of respect ?
Really?
in a way that is annoying or does not seem sincere?
OK
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:15/50. I knew one and guessed one right.
Thank you. I’ve been looking for a suitable epithet and smarmy git is perfect.“smarmy: extremely polite or helpful or showing a lot of respect in a way that is annoying or does not seem sincere”
Extremely polite or helpful?
showing a lot of respect ?
Really?
in a way that is annoying or does not seem sincere?
OK
Smarmy is good for annoying.
LOL
Better go and do something useful.
Ot maybe have a coffee.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-29/hard-quiz-weekly-trivia/104355230

Frabjous day
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-29/hard-quiz-weekly-trivia/104355230
Frabjous day
Annother smarmy git photo.
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-29/hard-quiz-weekly-trivia/104355230
Frabjous day
Sorry to quibble, but 45/50 is not a “perfect” score.
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-29/hard-quiz-weekly-trivia/104355230
Frabjous day
:)
Funnily enough the only one I got wrong was the chess one
dv said:
Funnily enough the only one I got wrong was the chess one
That’s odd for you. Even I got that one.
dv said:
Funnily enough the only one I got wrong was the chess one
The chess one?
Oh, you mean the computer one?
dv said:
Funnily enough the only one I got wrong was the chess one
I got that one wrong too.
35/50 which is batter than my usual average of about 20.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Funnily enough the only one I got wrong was the chess one
The chess one?
Oh, you mean the computer one?
Well yes, that one.
Fourteen millimetres yesterday, and now it’s raining again.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-29/hard-quiz-weekly-trivia/104355230
Frabjous day
Annother smarmy git photo.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Funnily enough the only one I got wrong was the chess one
That’s odd for you. Even I got that one.
Score: 35 / 50
⭐⭐️ Nice job!
Dark old day here in Hangover House. Wet and windy but tomorrow we’re heading for a scorching 19.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Sunday TriviaWas flying through it until I started getting them wrong.
15/50. I knew one and guessed one right.
Thank you. I’ve been looking for a suitable epithet and smarmy git is perfect.
“Smarmy” is always misused in this forum. It means ingratiating and over-eager to flatter and please.
That fellow is the complete opposite.
Michael V said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-29/hard-quiz-weekly-trivia/104355230
Frabjous day
:)
I got 6/10
Bubblecar said:
Dark old day here in Hangover House. Wet and windy but tomorrow we’re heading for a scorching 19.
Get your sandals and socks out and your shorts and knotted hanky for your head.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Dark old day here in Hangover House. Wet and windy but tomorrow we’re heading for a scorching 19.
Get your sandals and socks out and your shorts and knotted hanky for your head.
I’ve not visited the seaside for many years.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Dark old day here in Hangover House. Wet and windy but tomorrow we’re heading for a scorching 19.
Get your sandals and socks out and your shorts and knotted hanky for your head.
I’ve not visited the seaside for many years.
Can you get a bus to the seaside.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:15/50. I knew one and guessed one right.
Thank you. I’ve been looking for a suitable epithet and smarmy git is perfect.
“Smarmy” is always misused in this forum. It means ingratiating and over-eager to flatter and please.
That fellow is the complete opposite.
Smarmy has suffered pejoration. It now is a negative term,
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:Thank you. I’ve been looking for a suitable epithet and smarmy git is perfect.
“Smarmy” is always misused in this forum. It means ingratiating and over-eager to flatter and please.
That fellow is the complete opposite.
Smarmy has suffered pejoration. It now is a negative term,
It was always a negative term, but it’s always misused in here.
People here used to call one of my heroes, Richard Dawkins, “smarmy” when once again, he’s nothing like that.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:Get your sandals and socks out and your shorts and knotted hanky for your head.
I’ve not visited the seaside for many years.
Can you get a bus to the seaside.
Possibly but it’s not worth going unless you’re going to spend a few days there.
I’ll get around to it one day.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Dark old day here in Hangover House. Wet and windy but tomorrow we’re heading for a scorching 19.
Get your sandals and socks out and your shorts and knotted hanky for your head.
Got a friend getting married on Remembrance Day, and if you can’t remember that anniversary you are in trouble.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve not visited the seaside for many years.
Can you get a bus to the seaside.
Possibly but it’s not worth going unless you’re going to spend a few days there.
I’ll get around to it one day.

Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:“Smarmy” is always misused in this forum. It means ingratiating and over-eager to flatter and please.
That fellow is the complete opposite.
Smarmy has suffered pejoration. It now is a negative term,
It was always a negative term, but it’s always misused in here.
People here used to call one of my heroes, Richard Dawkins, “smarmy” when once again, he’s nothing like that.
The meaning of words evolves over time. Best not to fight it too hard.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Dark old day here in Hangover House. Wet and windy but tomorrow we’re heading for a scorching 19.
Get your sandals and socks out and your shorts and knotted hanky for your head.
I have had a mixed day.
Morning coffee tasted different. The cup had contained a boiled spider. The remains of the spider was in the jug.
Went out to bring in the washing and was stung by the season’s first March fly.
Damn.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:Smarmy has suffered pejoration. It now is a negative term,
It was always a negative term, but it’s always misused in here.
People here used to call one of my heroes, Richard Dawkins, “smarmy” when once again, he’s nothing like that.
The meaning of words evolves over time. Best not to fight it too hard.
But it’s only this forum that gets it wrong.
People elsewhere know what “smarmy” means and they use it appropriately.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:Smarmy has suffered pejoration. It now is a negative term,
It was always a negative term, but it’s always misused in here.
People here used to call one of my heroes, Richard Dawkins, “smarmy” when once again, he’s nothing like that.
The meaning of words evolves over time. Best not to fight it too hard.
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:It was always a negative term, but it’s always misused in here.
People here used to call one of my heroes, Richard Dawkins, “smarmy” when once again, he’s nothing like that.
The meaning of words evolves over time. Best not to fight it too hard.
A good example of pejoration is deadly changing to it’s opposite meaning.
Sick!!
A classic example of “smarmy”: Basil Fawlty when he was trying to flatter someone he thought was the hotel inspector.
“ It’s just that you’re obviously so expert.”
- No, I am not expert.
-“Oh, but you are.”
- No, I’m not.
“Oh, yes you are.”
- I am not an expert.
dv said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:The meaning of words evolves over time. Best not to fight it too hard.
A good example of pejoration is deadly changing to it’s opposite meaning.Sick!!
dv said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:The meaning of words evolves over time. Best not to fight it too hard.
A good example of pejoration is deadly changing to it’s opposite meaning.Sick!!
Or when people say, “Bubblecar is the shit!”
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:It was always a negative term, but it’s always misused in here.
People here used to call one of my heroes, Richard Dawkins, “smarmy” when once again, he’s nothing like that.
The meaning of words evolves over time. Best not to fight it too hard.
But it’s only this forum that gets it wrong.
People elsewhere know what “smarmy” means and they use it appropriately.
Not all forum members …
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:The meaning of words evolves over time. Best not to fight it too hard.
But it’s only this forum that gets it wrong.
People elsewhere know what “smarmy” means and they use it appropriately.
Not all forum members …
Of course not.
Going by the OED, the word derives from smarm, also spelt smalm or smawm, meaning smear or daub. The origin of smarm, in this sense, is given as “unknown”. Earliest attestation in the 1840s.
Fairly naturally from there we get the adjective smarmy meaning smooth or sleek, first appearing in 1909, and then meaning ingratiating, obsequious etc in 1924. This parallels similar terms such as oily, unctuous.
Surprisingly, OED is not aware of smarmy’s modern contranymy.
dv said:
Going by the OED, the word derives from smarm, also spelt smalm or smawm, meaning smear or daub. The origin of smarm, in this sense, is given as “unknown”. Earliest attestation in the 1840s.Fairly naturally from there we get the adjective smarmy meaning smooth or sleek, first appearing in 1909, and then meaning ingratiating, obsequious etc in 1924. This parallels similar terms such as oily, unctuous.
Surprisingly, OED is not aware of smarmy’s modern contranymy.
This forum is not terribly famous.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Going by the OED, the word derives from smarm, also spelt smalm or smawm, meaning smear or daub. The origin of smarm, in this sense, is given as “unknown”. Earliest attestation in the 1840s.Fairly naturally from there we get the adjective smarmy meaning smooth or sleek, first appearing in 1909, and then meaning ingratiating, obsequious etc in 1924. This parallels similar terms such as oily, unctuous.
Surprisingly, OED is not aware of smarmy’s modern contranymy.
This forum is not terribly famous.
Another surprise.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Going by the OED, the word derives from smarm, also spelt smalm or smawm, meaning smear or daub. The origin of smarm, in this sense, is given as “unknown”. Earliest attestation in the 1840s.Fairly naturally from there we get the adjective smarmy meaning smooth or sleek, first appearing in 1909, and then meaning ingratiating, obsequious etc in 1924. This parallels similar terms such as oily, unctuous.
Surprisingly, OED is not aware of smarmy’s modern contranymy.
This forum is not terribly famous.
Another surprise.
Aren’t we famous for a bloke’s split lip?
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Going by the OED, the word derives from smarm, also spelt smalm or smawm, meaning smear or daub. The origin of smarm, in this sense, is given as “unknown”. Earliest attestation in the 1840s.Fairly naturally from there we get the adjective smarmy meaning smooth or sleek, first appearing in 1909, and then meaning ingratiating, obsequious etc in 1924. This parallels similar terms such as oily, unctuous.
Surprisingly, OED is not aware of smarmy’s modern contranymy.
This forum is not terribly famous.
We like to think of it as ‘modest’.
An maybe, ‘select’.
I whipper-a-lot-man
does busy keepin’ short
and green’f me can
so’t runs a fire not ought
yeah that’s the plan
late lunch’t bein’ cooked
is sizzlin’ in the pan
peppered steak be what
potato boilin’ in’t pot
be carrot too I am report
gravy’n‘t landed hot

roughbarked said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:This forum is not terribly famous.
Another surprise.
Aren’t we famous for a bloke’s split lip?
I mean the word “selfie” was coined at the Old Place.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:Another surprise.
Aren’t we famous for a bloke’s split lip?
I mean the word “selfie” was coined at the Old Place.
So the legend goes.
Meanwhile our American friends at Merriam-Webster say

Conceivably the “smug earnestness” thing is in the vicinity of Tom Gleeson’s antics.
That low sleazy taste thing is something else.
I can report that steak was absolutely delicious, tender also
darter to keeps ya company, over dam for couple day now

dv said:
Meanwhile our American friends at Merriam-Webster say
Conceivably the “smug earnestness” thing is in the vicinity of Tom Gleeson’s antics.
That low sleazy taste thing is something else.
The word sleazy is problematic too. In American usage it tends to mean sexual immorality, in Britain it can also mean corruption and bribery in public office.
transition said:
I can report that steak was absolutely delicious, tender also
Good to see you getting red meat.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Ybsdr5CwHDoNevQT/?mibextid=D5vuiz
This man’s crazy. Put your bread in the soup. Enjoy this fleeting life as best you can.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:Smarmy has suffered pejoration. It now is a negative term,
It was always a negative term, but it’s always misused in here.
People here used to call one of my heroes, Richard Dawkins, “smarmy” when once again, he’s nothing like that.
The meaning of words evolves over time. Best not to fight it too hard.
Plus, I’ll keep using it. When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.
dv said:
Meanwhile our American friends at Merriam-Webster say
Conceivably the “smug earnestness” thing is in the vicinity of Tom Gleeson’s antics.
That low sleazy taste thing is something else.
Yes, smug. not to be confused with the dragon which had an a in it.
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Ybsdr5CwHDoNevQT/?mibextid=D5vuizThis man’s crazy. Put your bread in the soup. Enjoy this fleeting life as best you can.
I just watched that. smarmy bastard that he is.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Ybsdr5CwHDoNevQT/?mibextid=D5vuizThis man’s crazy. Put your bread in the soup. Enjoy this fleeting life as best you can.
I just watched that. smarmy bastard that he is.
Sensu novo?
dv said:
Meanwhile our American friends at Merriam-Webster say
Conceivably the “smug earnestness” thing is in the vicinity of Tom Gleeson’s antics.
That low sleazy taste thing is something else.
I find both smarmy and sleazy people cringeworthy. There isn’t a lot of difference in life. Although sleaze is more cringy than smarmy.
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Ybsdr5CwHDoNevQT/?mibextid=D5vuizThis man’s crazy. Put your bread in the soup. Enjoy this fleeting life as best you can.
I just watched that. smarmy bastard that he is.
Sensu novo?
I’m not a nuisance!
Also, why do people say “quote unquote smarmy” instead of “quote smarmy unquote”?
dv said:
Also, why do people say “quote unquote smarmy” instead of “quote smarmy unquote”?
probably more fluid off the tongue.
i remember breaking up bread into the lamb shank broth.
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Ybsdr5CwHDoNevQT/?mibextid=D5vuizThis man’s crazy. Put your bread in the soup. Enjoy this fleeting life as best you can.
as kids we had sao biscuit in our sou.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:I just watched that. smarmy bastard that he is.
Sensu novo?
I’m not a nuisance!
Citation needed
sarahs mum said:
i remember breaking up bread into the lamb shank broth.
Happy times
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Ybsdr5CwHDoNevQT/?mibextid=D5vuizThis man’s crazy. Put your bread in the soup. Enjoy this fleeting life as best you can.
as kids we had sao biscuit in our sou.
i remember that. specially in the tinned tomato soup.
there’s not much difference between breaking some bread into your soup and having a bread dumpling in your soup.
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:Sensu novo?
I’m not a nuisance!
Citation needed
har de ha ha.

I dunk. Usually toast.
Michael V said:
I dunk. Usually toast.
I go the whole hog and soak my toast. still, when you have no teeth pap is the way.
I sometimes dunk cheese and/or ham sandwiches in tomato soup.
I sup on soup super rarely.
party_pants said:
I sup on soup super rarely.
Does PWM have his soup well done?
Bubblecar said:
I sometimes dunk cheese and/or ham sandwiches in tomato soup.
Good
party_pants said:
I sup on soup super rarely.
There are some pleasant tinned soups and it’s a cheap enough treat.
Also fun to make your own. I’ll be making a big batch of cream of pumpkin in the coming week
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
I sup on soup super rarely.
There are some pleasant tinned soups and it’s a cheap enough treat.
Also fun to make your own. I’ll be making a big batch of cream of pumpkin in the coming week
i was just thinking about roast pumpkin soup with speck and sour cream.
dv said:
The acting world being what it is, it’s probably odds-on that the stars will be gay.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
I sup on soup super rarely.
There are some pleasant tinned soups and it’s a cheap enough treat.
Also fun to make your own. I’ll be making a big batch of cream of pumpkin in the coming week
i was just thinking about roast pumpkin soup with speck and sour cream.
I’ll be roasting the pumpkin first. Speck would be lovely but I don’t have any. I’ll be using either sour cream or Greek yoghurt or both.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
The acting world being what it is, it’s probably odds-on that the stars will be gay.
do they work in binary
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
I sup on soup super rarely.
There are some pleasant tinned soups and it’s a cheap enough treat.
Also fun to make your own. I’ll be making a big batch of cream of pumpkin in the coming week
i was just thinking about roast pumpkin soup with speck and sour cream.
Sounds nice.
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
The acting world being what it is, it’s probably odds-on that the stars will be gay.
do they work in binary
Y’all so clever
Lol @ Katy Perry’s post game press conference
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/Rn47RQtrPksSQ4br/?mibextid=D5vuiz
Black tea with milk
buffy said:
dv said:
Meanwhile our American friends at Merriam-Webster say
Conceivably the “smug earnestness” thing is in the vicinity of Tom Gleeson’s antics.
That low sleazy taste thing is something else.
I find both smarmy and sleazy people cringeworthy. There isn’t a lot of difference in life. Although sleaze is more cringy than smarmy.
Sleaze is ewww. Cringey indeed. Smarminess is putting on a fake front, in my book.
https://grammarist.com/words/smarmy/
Smarmy is an adjective which means to act as if you are genteel or well-mannered, but such actions are not credible or believed
Merriam-Webster says
The history of smarmy is oily. Etymologists don’t know where smarm (the verb from which it is based) came from, but they do know that it meant “to smear” or “to make smooth or oily” before gaining the meaning “to flatter.” The adjective smarmy comes from the latter meaning.
dv said:
Black tea with milk
I take it they were in separate cups.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Black tea with milk
I take it they were in separate cups.
No, one mug.
Black tea (also literally translated as red tea from various East Asian languages) is a type of tea that is more oxidized than oolong, yellow, white, and green teas. Black tea is generally stronger in flavour than other teas. All five types are made from leaves of the shrub (or small tree) Camellia sinensis, though Camellia taliensis is also, rarely, used.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Black tea with milk
I take it they were in separate cups.
No, one mug.
Black tea (also literally translated as red tea from various East Asian languages) is a type of tea that is more oxidized than oolong, yellow, white, and green teas. Black tea is generally stronger in flavour than other teas. All five types are made from leaves of the shrub (or small tree) Camellia sinensis, though Camellia taliensis is also, rarely, used.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_tea
I always take my black tea with milk, also.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Black tea with milk
I take it they were in separate cups.
No, one mug.
Black tea (also literally translated as red tea from various East Asian languages) is a type of tea that is more oxidized than oolong, yellow, white, and green teas. Black tea is generally stronger in flavour than other teas. All five types are made from leaves of the shrub (or small tree) Camellia sinensis, though Camellia taliensis is also, rarely, used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_tea
I’ve just made some white tea from my Camellia sinsensis bushes. No milk.
ruby said:
dv said:
roughbarked said:No, one mug.
Black tea (also literally translated as red tea from various East Asian languages) is a type of tea that is more oxidized than oolong, yellow, white, and green teas. Black tea is generally stronger in flavour than other teas. All five types are made from leaves of the shrub (or small tree) Camellia sinensis, though Camellia taliensis is also, rarely, used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_teaI’ve just made some white tea from my Camellia sinsensis bushes. No milk.
Good lord, you’ve got tea bushes. Marvelous.
chainsaws the big chunky left behind wood shortly, more of, tomorrow night’s wood really, enough there for tonight, 3 or 4C tonight maybe
in other news getting new wheelbarrow wheel, going for the military grade solid rubber type, good for landmines, IEDs, even still usable after a small nuclear explosion nearby, the spefications indicate, just what i’m looking for, a wheelbarrow that will see me through a thermonuclear war, picture that, me pushing my wheelbarrow, country denuded, mushroom cloud in the background
transition said:
chainsaws the big chunky left behind wood shortly, more of, tomorrow night’s wood really, enough there for tonight, 3 or 4C tonight maybein other news getting new wheelbarrow wheel, going for the military grade solid rubber type, good for landmines, IEDs, even still usable after a small nuclear explosion nearby, the spefications indicate, just what i’m looking for, a wheelbarrow that will see me through a thermonuclear war, picture that, me pushing my wheelbarrow, country denuded, mushroom cloud in the background
Well I’m glad you’re ready for anything
transition said:
chainsaws the big chunky left behind wood shortly, more of, tomorrow night’s wood really, enough there for tonight, 3 or 4C tonight maybein other news getting new wheelbarrow wheel, going for the military grade solid rubber type, good for landmines, IEDs, even still usable after a small nuclear explosion nearby, the spefications indicate, just what i’m looking for, a wheelbarrow that will see me through a thermonuclear war, picture that, me pushing my wheelbarrow, country denuded, mushroom cloud in the background
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dv said:
ruby said:
dv said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_tea
I’ve just made some white tea from my Camellia sinsensis bushes. No milk.
Good lord, you’ve got tea bushes. Marvelous.
I have tea and coffee bushes to remind myself how much lowly paid or slave labour is involved in our comforting beverages.
Lots of time needed to produce enough tea and coffee for just one person.
dv said:
transition said:
chainsaws the big chunky left behind wood shortly, more of, tomorrow night’s wood really, enough there for tonight, 3 or 4C tonight maybein other news getting new wheelbarrow wheel, going for the military grade solid rubber type, good for landmines, IEDs, even still usable after a small nuclear explosion nearby, the spefications indicate, just what i’m looking for, a wheelbarrow that will see me through a thermonuclear war, picture that, me pushing my wheelbarrow, country denuded, mushroom cloud in the background
Well I’m glad you’re ready for anything
ya gotta be vigilant, prepared crosseyed look
Tank Patrol – A British WW2 Film made by the Ministary of Information in 1942
Includes the first screen appearance of Bill Owen, who played Compo in Last of the Summer Wine.
https://www.facebook.com/armytanks/videos/tank-patrol-a-british-ww2-film-made-by-the-ministary-of-information-in-1942/8025501337502496/
Bubblecar said:
Tank Patrol – A British WW2 Film made by the Ministary of Information in 1942Includes the first screen appearance of Bill Owen, who played Compo in Last of the Summer Wine.
https://www.facebook.com/armytanks/videos/tank-patrol-a-british-ww2-film-made-by-the-ministary-of-information-in-1942/8025501337502496/
Ministary = Ministry, their mistake not mine :)
Verdict on the Olga’s chicken patties: pleasant enough, especially if you like sage, which is the dominant flavour.
dv said:
Lol @ Katy Perry’s post game press conferencehttps://www.facebook.com/share/v/Rn47RQtrPksSQ4br/?mibextid=D5vuiz
Katy Perry is an American entertainer.
TIL
dv said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Black tea with milk
I take it they were in separate cups.
No, one mug.
Black tea (also literally translated as red tea from various East Asian languages) is a type of tea that is more oxidized than oolong, yellow, white, and green teas. Black tea is generally stronger in flavour than other teas. All five types are made from leaves of the shrub (or small tree) Camellia sinensis, though Camellia taliensis is also, rarely, used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_tea
I had some oolong tea in a specialty place not far from yours. Not bad.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
chainsaws the big chunky left behind wood shortly, more of, tomorrow night’s wood really, enough there for tonight, 3 or 4C tonight maybein other news getting new wheelbarrow wheel, going for the military grade solid rubber type, good for landmines, IEDs, even still usable after a small nuclear explosion nearby, the spefications indicate, just what i’m looking for, a wheelbarrow that will see me through a thermonuclear war, picture that, me pushing my wheelbarrow, country denuded, mushroom cloud in the background
If those are pneumatic tyres it be a bit of a blue.
Ian said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
chainsaws the big chunky left behind wood shortly, more of, tomorrow night’s wood really, enough there for tonight, 3 or 4C tonight maybein other news getting new wheelbarrow wheel, going for the military grade solid rubber type, good for landmines, IEDs, even still usable after a small nuclear explosion nearby, the spefications indicate, just what i’m looking for, a wheelbarrow that will see me through a thermonuclear war, picture that, me pushing my wheelbarrow, country denuded, mushroom cloud in the background
If those are pneumatic tyres it be a bit of a blue.
Nah, you put just a tiny little bit of nitrogen in them, and the lower atmospheric pressure does the rest.
Ian said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
chainsaws the big chunky left behind wood shortly, more of, tomorrow night’s wood really, enough there for tonight, 3 or 4C tonight maybein other news getting new wheelbarrow wheel, going for the military grade solid rubber type, good for landmines, IEDs, even still usable after a small nuclear explosion nearby, the spefications indicate, just what i’m looking for, a wheelbarrow that will see me through a thermonuclear war, picture that, me pushing my wheelbarrow, country denuded, mushroom cloud in the background
If those are pneumatic tyres it be a bit of a blue.
only 14psi difference so just don’t put so much air in them.
I used to go through a metal builders wheelbarrow every couple of years. Using to muck out stables plus exposure to the elements..
My current one started out the same but when the bowl was needing replacement I picked up a plastic fantastic jobby..
painted the frame and oiled the wooden bits when installing it. At some point the tyre got punctured and I replaced it with one for a ride-on mower.
30 plus years later it’s going great.
captain_spalding said:
Ian said:
Bubblecar said:
If those are pneumatic tyres it be a bit of a blue.
Nah, you put just a tiny little bit of nitrogen in them, and the lower atmospheric pressure does the rest.
Hmm.. built for Martian conditions..
Maybe
Ian said:
captain_spalding said:
Ian said:
If those are pneumatic tyres it be a bit of a blue.
Nah, you put just a tiny little bit of nitrogen in them, and the lower atmospheric pressure does the rest.
Hmm.. built for Martian conditions..
Maybe
remember that even on Earth tyres are made to sustain a significant pressure differential pretty sure they can handle another 30% on it
God has come down hard on the carolines.
Speaking of black tea and Maggie Smith
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/j85ZGo1VDhptzhV6/?mibextid=D5vuiz
good evening … damnation a typo in the thread title
sarahs mum said:
God has come down hard on the carolines.
Wha’ happen?
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
God has come down hard on the carolines.
Wha’ happen?
cyclone helene.
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
God has come down hard on the carolines.
Wha’ happen?
cyclone helene.
hurricane sm.
Ian said:
I used to go through a metal builders wheelbarrow every couple of years. Using to muck out stables plus exposure to the elements..My current one started out the same but when the bowl was needing replacement I picked up a plastic fantastic jobby..
painted the frame and oiled the wooden bits when installing it. At some point the tyre got punctured and I replaced it with one for a ride-on mower.30 plus years later it’s going great.
I prefer the plastic tub because it’s lighter. But they do crack if you chuck awkward heavy bits of firewood into them.
And I’ve got a question. Somehow we have begun watching Car SOS while eating tea. I am finding it more interesting than I expected. I have noticed that the cars they retrieve and do up all seem to have registration plates on them. Surely people don’t keep the cars registered when they sit in sheds for 7-20 years or something? They would have to be roadworthied/MOTed after restoration even if the owner did the restoration. Why would you keep paying for registration? Or maybe in Britain you don’t have to return the plates?
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
God has come down hard on the carolines.
Wha’ happen?
cyclone helene.
Oh, the Carolinas!
I was thinking of the Caroline Islands.
Mrs S has an uncle, his wife, and a cousin in N. Carolina. Hope they’re OK.
buffy said:
And I’ve got a question. Somehow we have begun watching Car SOS while eating tea. I am finding it more interesting than I expected. I have noticed that the cars they retrieve and do up all seem to have registration plates on them. Surely people don’t keep the cars registered when they sit in sheds for 7-20 years or something? They would have to be roadworthied/MOTed after restoration even if the owner did the restoration. Why would you keep paying for registration? Or maybe in Britain you don’t have to return the plates?
IIRC, in Britain, you pay for your number plates to be manufactured. So I doubt you have to return them.
sarahs mum said:
God has come down hard on the carolines.
Verily too much rogering.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
And I’ve got a question. Somehow we have begun watching Car SOS while eating tea. I am finding it more interesting than I expected. I have noticed that the cars they retrieve and do up all seem to have registration plates on them. Surely people don’t keep the cars registered when they sit in sheds for 7-20 years or something? They would have to be roadworthied/MOTed after restoration even if the owner did the restoration. Why would you keep paying for registration? Or maybe in Britain you don’t have to return the plates?
IIRC, in Britain, you pay for your number plates to be manufactured. So I doubt you have to return them.
Ah, OK. So I suppose when you get around to reregistering the car you could request the same ID and use the plates you already have paid for.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:
And I’ve got a question. Somehow we have begun watching Car SOS while eating tea. I am finding it more interesting than I expected. I have noticed that the cars they retrieve and do up all seem to have registration plates on them. Surely people don’t keep the cars registered when they sit in sheds for 7-20 years or something? They would have to be roadworthied/MOTed after restoration even if the owner did the restoration. Why would you keep paying for registration? Or maybe in Britain you don’t have to return the plates?
IIRC, in Britain, you pay for your number plates to be manufactured. So I doubt you have to return them.
Ah, OK. So I suppose when you get around to reregistering the car you could request the same ID and use the plates you already have paid for.
I don’t know.
I’m off to watch Return to Paradise and Unforgotten.
RangerJudy 1h
September 29: there was disturbance on the nest early last night when the eagles were alert, calling and peering down below the nest. Lady slept on the nest, then was awake very early. She went to the left-over fish before 5am and fed a little, Lady ate herself too, but all were distracted. Dad fed them a little too, but ate more himself. Then they were waiting – at 10am 1 eagle was seen down on River Roost. Finally Dad brought in a fish head around 12:30 – fed by Lady to both, though it didn’t last long. She brought in a part fish at 13:05, which SE33 grabbed, then shortly after another which SE34 grabbed. Again at 1:39 – only a couple of bites. Are these remains of catch from fishermen on the river? Lady brought a bigger fish just after 2pm, but SE34 seemed to eat most. Rain started again for a while. Late afternoon, still waiting – though Dad brought leaves. Lady came late with a big fish, and started feeding SE34. Shortly after Dad brought one as well, and Lady grabbed it, feeding from both. SE33 seemed to only eat a little. Dad came and fed himself from the left-overs. At dark, nestlings were a bit restless on the nest – then settled.
Nerys is just one of those names that strikes me as particularly ugly. Like Ursula.
dv said:
Nerys is just one of those names that strikes me as particularly ugly. Like Ursula.
Never heard of it.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Nerys is just one of those names that strikes me as particularly ugly. Like Ursula.
Never heard of it.
Car’s reference to Last of the Summer Wine sent me on a wikiwalk that led me to The Liver Birds, which starred Nerys Hughes. But I did also know a geologist of that name, and I’ve heard it as the name of fictional characters.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Nerys is just one of those names that strikes me as particularly ugly. Like Ursula.
Never heard of it.
Car’s reference to Last of the Summer Wine sent me on a wikiwalk that led me to The Liver Birds, which starred Nerys Hughes. But I did also know a geologist of that name, and I’ve heard it as the name of fictional characters.
It’s a name that’s not entirely unfamiliar to me, but i can’t think from where.
‘Last of the Summer Wine’.
Delightful show. When people would comment that ‘Seinfeld’ was an original idea in that it was ‘a show about nothing’, i’d think, no, L of the SW had already done that.
And, arguably, done it better.
Gosh, we are getting old.
not quite 9 pm, and everyone seems to have gone to bed.
ahhh
Don’t you hate it when you try something and it works, meaning you have to press on rather than giving up?
dv said:
ahhhDon’t you hate it when you try something and it works, meaning you have to press on rather than giving up?
It scares me.
Having something work suggests that there’s a much more catastrophic ‘not work’ event in the near future.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
ahhh
Don’t you hate it when you try something and it works, meaning you have to press on rather than giving up?
It scares me.
Having something work suggests that there’s a much more catastrophic ‘not work’ event in the near future.
^ ^^
captain_spalding said:
Gosh, we are getting old.not quite 9 pm, and everyone seems to have gone to bed.
I went to the shops, and just set a new record.
$203 for two bags of shopping including 3 packages of meat, and 5 bottles of diet coke.
dv said:
ahhhDon’t you hate it when you try something and it works, meaning you have to press on rather than giving up?
Yeah, exchanging labour for money.
Gimme some Lotto luck, baby.
captain_spalding said:
Gosh, we are getting old.not quite 9 pm, and everyone seems to have gone to bed.
I’ve been doing the old fashioned thing and watching free to air TV.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Gosh, we are getting old.not quite 9 pm, and everyone seems to have gone to bed.
I’ve been doing the old fashioned thing and watching free to air TV.
Is that still available?
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Gosh, we are getting old.not quite 9 pm, and everyone seems to have gone to bed.
I’ve been doing the old fashioned thing and watching free to air TV.
Is that still available?
Yes, and it’s ad-free.
Other than all the ads saying it is ad-free.
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:I’ve been doing the old fashioned thing and watching free to air TV.
Is that still available?
Yes, and it’s ad-free.
Other than all the ads saying it is ad-free.
But the ads don’t come in the middle of a program. And sometimes you even have to concentrate for over an hour at a time.
:)
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Gosh, we are getting old.not quite 9 pm, and everyone seems to have gone to bed.
I’ve been doing the old fashioned thing and watching free to air TV.
Is that still available?
The Sunday night Movie Of The Week?
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:Is that still available?
Yes, and it’s ad-free.
Other than all the ads saying it is ad-free.
But the ads don’t come in the middle of a program. And sometimes you even have to concentrate for over an hour at a time.
:)
True :)
I must say I find the SBS ads pretty irritating these days.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:Is that still available?
Yes, and it’s ad-free.
Other than all the ads saying it is ad-free.
But the ads don’t come in the middle of a program. And sometimes you even have to concentrate for over an hour at a time.
:)
buffy said:
But the ads don’t come in the middle of a program. And sometimes you even have to concentrate for over an hour at a time.
:)
……. specially when ya bustin’ for a wee.
Hey Cuz Woodie, if someone is talking about modular model railways, are they any different to your standard garden variety model railway?
Neophyte said:
Hey Cuz Woodie, if someone is talking about modular model railways, are they any different to your standard garden variety model railway?
No. They’re usually of a fixed small size, where the tracks enter and leave at the same points at either end, so they can be joined together to make one big layout. There will be straight sections, and corner sections. most often done in N gauge.
Sorta like a modular lounge suite, but where each lounge piece would be different fabric, or in the case of the modular model railway, a different scene.
I think this is what you are referring to.
ruby said:
dv said:
roughbarked said:No, one mug.
Black tea (also literally translated as red tea from various East Asian languages) is a type of tea that is more oxidized than oolong, yellow, white, and green teas. Black tea is generally stronger in flavour than other teas. All five types are made from leaves of the shrub (or small tree) Camellia sinensis, though Camellia taliensis is also, rarely, used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_teaI’ve just made some white tea from my Camellia sinsensis bushes. No milk.
Yes I bought some black tea once. Never tried the stuff again.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:Wha’ happen?
cyclone helene.
hurricane sm.
That’ll teach them.
buffy said:
Ian said:
I used to go through a metal builders wheelbarrow every couple of years. Using to muck out stables plus exposure to the elements..My current one started out the same but when the bowl was needing replacement I picked up a plastic fantastic jobby..
painted the frame and oiled the wooden bits when installing it. At some point the tyre got punctured and I replaced it with one for a ride-on mower.30 plus years later it’s going great.
I prefer the plastic tub because it’s lighter. But they do crack if you chuck awkward heavy bits of firewood into them.
Yes I cracked one by using it to shift logs.
Was out early to try and get this comet thing but the fog got thicker the more I walked eastwards. U’ll need to get in the car and drive to the top of a hill though as the hills to my east do make it difficult. The moon was rising. 
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Yes, and it’s ad-free.
Other than all the ads saying it is ad-free.
But the ads don’t come in the middle of a program. And sometimes you even have to concentrate for over an hour at a time.
:)
True :)
I must say I find the SBS ads pretty irritating these days.
Yes. I find the SBS ads annoying but nowhere near as annoying as the commercial TV.
People keep asking if I saw this or that on TV and I have to say sorry, must have missed that, it’s on the wrong station.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:
And I’ve got a question. Somehow we have begun watching Car SOS while eating tea. I am finding it more interesting than I expected. I have noticed that the cars they retrieve and do up all seem to have registration plates on them. Surely people don’t keep the cars registered when they sit in sheds for 7-20 years or something? They would have to be roadworthied/MOTed after restoration even if the owner did the restoration. Why would you keep paying for registration? Or maybe in Britain you don’t have to return the plates?
IIRC, in Britain, you pay for your number plates to be manufactured. So I doubt you have to return them.
Ah, OK. So I suppose when you get around to reregistering the car you could request the same ID and use the plates you already have paid for.
You have to use the same engine number and VIN number which is why they do all that work to keep those two items intact.
Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees at the back door, overcast and still. We are forecast a cloudy 18 degrees.
I will go to the wetland reserve and do a little bit of mowing this morning. The grass is wet, but it’s a high mow, should be OK.
Alright. I’m going to make sure the mower starts, then load it into the car and go to the wetland. I’d like to mow before it starts to warm up and the ones with scales start looking for basking places. I’ll mow their basking places before they get out of bed this morning.
Morning forumites. Happy start of a new week.
What was supposed to be a bit of drizzle turned into rain, so no dawn walk, and more water tank filling.
Start of school holidays, so I shall be dragging reluctant kiddos off screens and trying to get them outernetting.
ruby said:
Morning forumites. Happy start of a new week.
What was supposed to be a bit of drizzle turned into rain, so no dawn walk, and more water tank filling.
Start of school holidays, so I shall be dragging reluctant kiddos off screens and trying to get them outernetting.
Might need something like nail polish remover to unglue them.
Doesn’t time fly.
It will be Jimmy Carter’s 100th birthday on Tuesday October 1.
roughbarked said:
Doesn’t time fly.
It will be Jimmy Carter’s 100th birthday on Tuesday October 1.
That’ll be useful at the pub’s Wednesday night trivia, I expect.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Doesn’t time fly.
It will be Jimmy Carter’s 100th birthday on Tuesday October 1.
That’ll be useful at the pub’s Wednesday night trivia, I expect.
Be forgotten again by Thursday?
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Ian said:
I used to go through a metal builders wheelbarrow every couple of years. Using to muck out stables plus exposure to the elements..My current one started out the same but when the bowl was needing replacement I picked up a plastic fantastic jobby..
painted the frame and oiled the wooden bits when installing it. At some point the tyre got punctured and I replaced it with one for a ride-on mower.30 plus years later it’s going great.
I prefer the plastic tub because it’s lighter. But they do crack if you chuck awkward heavy bits of firewood into them.
Yes I cracked one by using it to shift logs.
I always cut down any logs I put in mine. Apart from that the biggest heaviest things I’ve put in it were a firefighter and a horse… not together
Ian said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I prefer the plastic tub because it’s lighter. But they do crack if you chuck awkward heavy bits of firewood into them.
Yes I cracked one by using it to shift logs.
I always cut down any logs I put in mine. Apart from that the biggest heaviest things I’ve put in it were a firefighter and a horse… not together
Both the firefighter and his horse were lucky you were around to transport them out of whatever difficulties they had got themselves into.
Morning pilgrims.
After the rain the day is set fair, and I should be able to to get some mowing in.
Over.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Ian said:
roughbarked said:Yes I cracked one by using it to shift logs.
I always cut down any logs I put in mine. Apart from that the biggest heaviest things I’ve put in it were a firefighter and a horse… not together
Both the firefighter and his horse were lucky you were around to transport them out of whatever difficulties they had got themselves into.
I daresay..
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Doesn’t time fly.
It will be Jimmy Carter’s 100th birthday on Tuesday October 1.
That’ll be useful at the pub’s Wednesday night trivia, I expect.
Be forgotten again by Thursday?
Here’s another trivia question. What was Jimmy Carter before he was president?

roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:That’ll be useful at the pub’s Wednesday night trivia, I expect.
Be forgotten again by Thursday?
Here’s another trivia question. What was Jimmy Carter before he was president?
Peanut farmer like Joh
roughbarked said:
Doesn’t time fly.
It will be Jimmy Carter’s 100th birthday on Tuesday October 1.
And he’s still going.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:That’ll be useful at the pub’s Wednesday night trivia, I expect.
Be forgotten again by Thursday?
Here’s another trivia question. What was Jimmy Carter before he was president?
peanut farmer.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
Doesn’t time fly.
It will be Jimmy Carter’s 100th birthday on Tuesday October 1.
And he’s still going.
like a timex.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:That’ll be useful at the pub’s Wednesday night trivia, I expect.
Be forgotten again by Thursday?
Here’s another trivia question. What was Jimmy Carter before he was president?
US Navy officer, specialising in nuclear propulsion.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
Doesn’t time fly.
It will be Jimmy Carter’s 100th birthday on Tuesday October 1.
And he’s still going.
like a timex.
Built upside down, you mean?
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Be forgotten again by Thursday?
Here’s another trivia question. What was Jimmy Carter before he was president?
US Navy officer, specialising in nuclear propulsion.
:) Submariner.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:And he’s still going.
like a timex.
Built upside down, you mean?
no, still going.
Bogsnorkler said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:like a timex.
Built upside down, you mean?
no, still going.
I’ve got a boxful that aren’t.
First they put a red dot
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-30/noise-camera-pilot-law-enforcement-police-nsw/104401024
on target, then put something else through those tyres, problem solved.
SCIENCE said:
First they put a red dot
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-30/noise-camera-pilot-law-enforcement-police-nsw/104401024
on target, then put something else through those tyres, problem solved.
Definitely need that around here. Local hoons take pride in their shitbox cars which are deliberated doctored to emit as much noise as possible.
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:First they put a red dot
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-30/noise-camera-pilot-law-enforcement-police-nsw/104401024
on target, then put something else through those tyres, problem solved.
Definitely need that around here. Local hoons take pride in their shitbox cars which are deliberated doctored to emit as much noise as possible.
deliberated = deliberately
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:Here’s another trivia question. What was Jimmy Carter before he was president?
US Navy officer, specialising in nuclear propulsion.
:) Submariner.
Yes. All US subs are nuclear powered. The last non-nuclear sub they had was commissioned in 1957, and decommissioned in 1990.
Hello
Cymek said:
Hello
Greetings.
Cymek said:
Hello
G’day.
Kris Kristofferson has passed away aged 88. :(and if you know who John Ashton was, he’s also passed aged 76.
roughbarked said:
and if you know who John Ashton was, he’s also passed aged 76.

What have yous done with Alex.
Oh, and I am back from mowing. I did the pathsides out to the bird hide, and the carpark. It took a couple of hours because it was a bit wet and mushy. Once things dry out it shouldn’t take that long. However, it looks good now and the snakes will be happy basking and the wallabies munching. I’ll go down to the back half beyond the bird hide another day.
Peak Warming Man said:
What have yous done with Alex.
She is trying to work out which page of the Merck Manual she got up to in her disease acquisition quest.
Hey Rev as our resident Sydneysider do you know what the closure and conversion of the T3 railway line to a metro entails? Is it different rolling stock or something else?
Peak Warming Man said:
What have yous done with Alex.
Me?
Nothing.
“SpaceX rescue capsule docks at ISS”
Elon to the rescue, is there nothing he can’t do.
Peak Warming Man said:
“SpaceX rescue capsule docks at ISS”Elon to the rescue, is there nothing he can’t do.
It’s all very confusing. They’ll be sending a few rockets up there but apparently still bring them back for months. The rent must be cheap in the ISS.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“SpaceX rescue capsule docks at ISS”Elon to the rescue, is there nothing he can’t do.
It’s all very confusing. They’ll be sending a few rockets up there but apparently still bring them back for months. The rent must be cheap in the ISS.
‘can’t
Witty Rejoinder said:
Hey Rev as our resident Sydneysider do you know what the closure and conversion of the T3 railway line to a metro entails? Is it different rolling stock or something else?
It is different rolling stock, but the big difference is the metro trains are driverless, so they need to completely upgrade the signalling systems and platforms with automatic entry/exit gates.
I think the gauge size is the same, but not sure. (I should know that :))
It’s also going to run every 4 minutes during peak times, making it very much a “show up and go” service.
dv said:
It’s also going to run every 4 minutes during peak times, making it very much a “show up and go” service.
Yeah, almost as good as the London Tube of 60 years ago :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
It’s also going to run every 4 minutes during peak times, making it very much a “show up and go” service.
Yeah, almost as good as the London Tube of 60 years ago :)
getting there
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Hey Rev as our resident Sydneysider do you know what the closure and conversion of the T3 railway line to a metro entails? Is it different rolling stock or something else?
It is different rolling stock, but the big difference is the metro trains are driverless, so they need to completely upgrade the signalling systems and platforms with automatic entry/exit gates.
I think the gauge size is the same, but not sure. (I should know that :))
They have a new Apollo 13 movie out, it’s more of a doco/movie.
I don’t think there are any actual actors involved.
It’s called Apollo 13 Survival.
Over.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Hey Rev as our resident Sydneysider do you know what the closure and conversion of the T3 railway line to a metro entails? Is it different rolling stock or something else?
It is different rolling stock, but the big difference is the metro trains are driverless, so they need to completely upgrade the signalling systems and platforms with automatic entry/exit gates.
I think the gauge size is the same, but not sure. (I should know that :))
Just checked. Yes, it is standard four foot eightanahalf, like all proper trains.
The busy little offshore low has buggered off to be replaced by a narrow, fast moving storm band with very heavy rain..

Ian said:
The busy little offshore low has buggered off to be replaced by a narrow, fast moving storm band with very heavy rain..
Looks wet and noisy.
Michael V said:
Ian said:
The busy little offshore low has buggered off to be replaced by a narrow, fast moving storm band with very heavy rain..
Looks wet and noisy.
Ya a bit. No lightning strikes real close.
25 mm in about 20 minutes
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Ian said:
The busy little offshore low has buggered off to be replaced by a narrow, fast moving storm band with very heavy rain..
Looks wet and noisy.
Ya a bit. No lightning strikes real close.
25 mm in about 20 minutes
Wet Wet Wet!
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
Michael V said:Looks wet and noisy.
Ya a bit. No lightning strikes real close.
25 mm in about 20 minutes
Wet Wet Wet!
Driezabone here.

i watched the Prime of miss jean brodie. starring maggie smith
I must have watched it decades ago. The theme is nostalgic but with all the good music released in 69 it does not really hold up.
I don’t remember it being so awful. jean brodie teaches the young girls about revolutions and fascism. she arranges for the art teacher to have his way with one of the girls. damn this isn’t general viewing.
killed it
It’s dead Jim.
SCIENCE said:
killed it
It’s only resting.
sarahs mum said:
i watched the Prime of miss jean brodie. starring maggie smithI must have watched it decades ago. The theme is nostalgic but with all the good music released in 69 it does not really hold up.
I don’t remember it being so awful. jean brodie teaches the young girls about revolutions and fascism. she arranges for the art teacher to have his way with one of the girls. damn this isn’t general viewing.
Ta, I’ll give it a miss.
Fish and chips tonight from

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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/volunteer-discovers-1000-year-old-ring-on-the-last-day-of-an-excavation-in-scotland-180985053/
sarahs mum said:
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The Precious, the ring to bind them all.
sarahs mum said:
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Fixt.
;)
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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Fixt.
;)
ta.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Fixt.
;)
ta.
nice
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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Fixt.
;)
Some other Pictish relics – the Gaulcross hoard. This collection of local and Roman silver sundries was probably mostly scrap intended to be used to make new silver items, but includes some unique objects.

https://blog.nms.ac.uk/2015/10/15/glenmorangie-research-project-the-gaulcross-hoard/
I might be late to the news, but Kris Kristofferson has moved on.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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Fixt.
;)
Some other Pictish relics – the Gaulcross hoard. This collection of local and Roman silver sundries was probably mostly scrap intended to be used to make new silver items, but includes some unique objects.
https://blog.nms.ac.uk/2015/10/15/glenmorangie-research-project-the-gaulcross-hoard/
A good British comedy about looking for relics is Detectorists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detectorists
Kingy said:
I might be late to the news, but Kris Kristofferson has moved on.
In 1958, Kristofferson was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford, studying at Merton College. While at Oxford, he was awarded a Blue for boxing, played rugby for his college, and began writing songs.
Kristofferson said that he would like the first three lines of Leonard Cohen’s “Bird on the Wire” on his tombstone:
Like a bird on the wire
Like a drunk in a midnight choir
I have tried in my way to be free
From wiki.
Peak Warming Man said:
Kingy said:
I might be late to the news, but Kris Kristofferson has moved on.
In 1958, Kristofferson was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford, studying at Merton College. While at Oxford, he was awarded a Blue for boxing, played rugby for his college, and began writing songs.
Kristofferson said that he would like the first three lines of Leonard Cohen’s “Bird on the Wire” on his tombstone:Like a bird on the wire
Like a drunk in a midnight choir
I have tried in my way to be freeFrom wiki.
explains why lukas nelson posted a photo of his two year old self sitting on kristofferson’s knee an hour or so back.
Just found a case of Heineken in the garage probably from 6 years ago this should be fun.
Peak Warming Man said:
Kingy said:
I might be late to the news, but Kris Kristofferson has moved on.
In 1958, Kristofferson was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford, studying at Merton College. While at Oxford, he was awarded a Blue for boxing, played rugby for his college, and began writing songs.
Kristofferson said that he would like the first three lines of Leonard Cohen’s “Bird on the Wire” on his tombstone:Like a bird on the wire
Like a drunk in a midnight choir
I have tried in my way to be freeFrom wiki.
See ya Kris, good movies, good music.
I think the only things I’ve seen him in are Blade and Planet of the Apes.
So people are telling me that the show Penguin is amazing
“A whopping 10,000 drones light up the sky, creating a new world record.”
https://x.com/i/status/1840183666233819212
Quite an impressive achievement getting that many to work simultaneously at the same location.
dv said:
I think the only things I’ve seen him in are Blade and Planet of the Apes.
“Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore” is definitely worth seeing.
Neophyte said:
dv said:
I think the only things I’ve seen him in are Blade and Planet of the Apes.
“Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore” is definitely worth seeing.
And a big limousine pulled into Alices’ drive.
Kris Kristofferson was born in Brownsville, Texas, to Mary Ann (Ashbrook) and Lars Henry Kristofferson. His paternal grandparents were Swedish, and his father was a United States Air Force general who pushed his son to a military career. Kris was a Golden Gloves boxer and went to Pomona College in California. From there, he earned a Rhodes scholarship to study literature at Oxford University. He ultimately joined the United States Army and achieved the rank of captain. He became a helicopter pilot, which served him well later. In 1965, he resigned his commission to pursue songwriting. He had just been assigned to become a teacher at USMA West Point. He got a job sweeping floors in Nashville studios. There he met Johnny Cash, who initially took some of his songs but ignored them. He was also working as a commercial helicopter pilot at the time.
He got Cash’s attention when he landed his helicopter in Cash’s yard and gave him some more tapes. Cash then recorded Kristofferson’s “Sunday Morning Coming Down”, which was voted the 1970 Song of the Year by the Country Music Association.
Kris was noted for his heavy boozing. He lost his helicopter pilot job when he passed out at the controls, and his drinking ruined his marriage to singer Rita Coolidge, when he was reaching a bottle and half of Jack Daniels daily. He gave up alcohol in 1976. His acting career nose-dived after making Heaven’s Gate (1980). In recent years, he has made a comeback with his musical and acting careers. He does say that he prefers his music, but says his children are his true legacy.
Trivia
He got his start in the music business by landing a helicopter in Johnny Cash’s backyard and presenting him with a song he had written. Cash went on to record the song.
He was set to become a Major when he decided to quit the United States Army Rangers after almost five years.
He is a former United States Army Rangers captain. He graduated Airborne School, Ranger School, and flight school, served in Germany, and volunteered for Vietnam as a helicopter pilot, but instead was offered a professor of English Literature position at USMA West Point. Disappointed that he was not allowed to fight in Vietnam, he resigned his position in 1965.
He is a good friend of Muhammad Ali and Willie Nelson. He was also a very good friend of the late Johnny Cash.
When Kristofferson hosted the season finale of Saturday Night Live (1975) in 1976, the cast and crew reported that he was drunk, and were worried that he wouldn’t be able to do it. Still, Kristofferson proved himself to be quite the functioning drunk, and the show went pretty well. Kristofferson has remarked on numerous occasions that his drinking was often a way to survive when performing, because he is pretty shy and does not have a great deal of confidence in himself.
He got his start in the music business by landing a helicopter in Johnny Cash’s backyard and presenting him with a song he had written. Cash went on to record the song.
—
I read a little earlier that Cash made that story up. who knows?
Ian said:
Kris Kristofferson was born in Brownsville, Texas, to Mary Ann (Ashbrook) and Lars Henry Kristofferson. His paternal grandparents were Swedish, and his father was a United States Air Force general who pushed his son to a military career. Kris was a Golden Gloves boxer and went to Pomona College in California. From there, he earned a Rhodes scholarship to study literature at Oxford University. He ultimately joined the United States Army and achieved the rank of captain. He became a helicopter pilot, which served him well later. In 1965, he resigned his commission to pursue songwriting. He had just been assigned to become a teacher at USMA West Point. He got a job sweeping floors in Nashville studios. There he met Johnny Cash, who initially took some of his songs but ignored them. He was also working as a commercial helicopter pilot at the time.He got Cash’s attention when he landed his helicopter in Cash’s yard and gave him some more tapes. Cash then recorded Kristofferson’s “Sunday Morning Coming Down”, which was voted the 1970 Song of the Year by the Country Music Association.
Kris was noted for his heavy boozing. He lost his helicopter pilot job when he passed out at the controls, and his drinking ruined his marriage to singer Rita Coolidge, when he was reaching a bottle and half of Jack Daniels daily. He gave up alcohol in 1976. His acting career nose-dived after making Heaven’s Gate (1980). In recent years, he has made a comeback with his musical and acting careers. He does say that he prefers his music, but says his children are his true legacy.
Trivia
He got his start in the music business by landing a helicopter in Johnny Cash’s backyard and presenting him with a song he had written. Cash went on to record the song.
He was set to become a Major when he decided to quit the United States Army Rangers after almost five years.
He is a former United States Army Rangers captain. He graduated Airborne School, Ranger School, and flight school, served in Germany, and volunteered for Vietnam as a helicopter pilot, but instead was offered a professor of English Literature position at USMA West Point. Disappointed that he was not allowed to fight in Vietnam, he resigned his position in 1965.He is a good friend of Muhammad Ali and Willie Nelson. He was also a very good friend of the late Johnny Cash.
When Kristofferson hosted the season finale of Saturday Night Live (1975) in 1976, the cast and crew reported that he was drunk, and were worried that he wouldn’t be able to do it. Still, Kristofferson proved himself to be quite the functioning drunk, and the show went pretty well. Kristofferson has remarked on numerous occasions that his drinking was often a way to survive when performing, because he is pretty shy and does not have a great deal of confidence in himself.
He supported Sinead O’Connor when Bob Dylan fans (!) were giving her grief.
KK certainly led an interesting life. I wonder how long until the movie..
Peak Warming Man said:
Neophyte said:
dv said:
I think the only things I’ve seen him in are Blade and Planet of the Apes.
“Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore” is definitely worth seeing.
And a big limousine pulled into Alices’ drive.
I don’t know why she’s leaving…
Kacey Chambers is now sporting a septum piercing: I don’t know if I approve.
Peak Warming Man said:
Fish and chips tonight from
reading
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wynnum%2C_Queensland
Witty Rejoinder said:
Kacey Chambers is now sporting a septum piercing: I don’t know if I approve.
Does she still pass off whining as singing?
I mean, i enjoy some of her songs, but it does strike me as that’s what she does.
Good evening folks
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Kacey Chambers is now sporting a septum piercing: I don’t know if I approve.
Does she still pass off whining as singing?
I mean, i enjoy some of her songs, but it does strike me as that’s what she does.
love her lose yourself.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Kacey Chambers is now sporting a septum piercing: I don’t know if I approve.
Humans have been ding piercings for thousands of years. I neither approve nor disapprove.
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Kacey Chambers is now sporting a septum piercing: I don’t know if I approve.
Humans have been ding piercings for thousands of years. I neither approve nor disapprove.
they been dong piercing as well.

Dear oh dear.
Peak Warming Man said:
Dear oh dear.
so it worked
SCIENCE said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Dear oh dear.
so it worked
yeah, it went, woof!
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Dear oh dear.
so it worked
yeah, it went, woof!
freezer circular saw meow
Convoy! (Well, mercy sakes, good buddy, we gonna back on outta here, so keep the bugs off your glass and the bears)
Convoy! (Off your tail, We’ll catch you on the flip-flop. This here’s the Rubber Duck on the side)
Convoy! (We gone, ‘bye, ‘bye)
Witty Rejoinder said:
Kacey Chambers is now sporting a septum piercing: I don’t know if I approve.
Moo!
Kingy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Kacey Chambers is now sporting a septum piercing: I don’t know if I approve.
Moo!

Yeah, I just got home from work, and there’s a lot of stuff for me to catch up on.
Not a bad day out, as it happens, and I’m hoping to get a day off this week.
Kingy said:
Yeah, I just got home from work, and there’s a lot of stuff for me to catch up on.Not a bad day out, as it happens, and I’m hoping to get a day off this week.
What are the chances of the boss approving such a thing?
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
Yeah, I just got home from work, and there’s a lot of stuff for me to catch up on.Not a bad day out, as it happens, and I’m hoping to get a day off this week.
What are the chances of the boss approving such a thing?
That bastard made me work right through last christmas with only two days off, in the hope that I would get holidays shortly afterwards.
Apparently, any day now, I’m going to get another day off for christmas.
I bet the new Japanese PM is feeling chuffed that the stock market fell 5% on the first trading day since his appointment.
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Kacey Chambers is now sporting a septum piercing: I don’t know if I approve.
Humans have been ding piercings for thousands of years. I neither approve nor disapprove.
As long as I don’t have to do them.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Kacey Chambers is now sporting a septum piercing: I don’t know if I approve.

The Sturt Highway near Hay was closed for eight hours yesterday after police found two suspected pipe bombs during a car search.
Specialist crews from Sydney travelled to the Riverina region to dismantle the objects.
What’s next?
A 33-year-old man will face court today charged with possessing an explosive device in a public place.
roughbarked said:
The Sturt Highway near Hay was closed for eight hours yesterday after police found two suspected pipe bombs during a car search.
Specialist crews from Sydney travelled to the Riverina region to dismantle the objects.
What’s next?A 33-year-old man will face court today charged with possessing an explosive device in a public place.
if we put some pagers in a bong will that count

Anubis spotted
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
The Sturt Highway near Hay was closed for eight hours yesterday after police found two suspected pipe bombs during a car search.
Specialist crews from Sydney travelled to the Riverina region to dismantle the objects.
What’s next?A 33-year-old man will face court today charged with possessing an explosive device in a public place.
if we put some pagers in a bong will that count
Can’t see that working.
dv said:
Anubis spotted
terrible border feathering though
dv said:
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Anubis spotted
Can’t see any spots?
Greetings
Cymek said:
Greetings
G’day.
Helene has killed more tham 120 and more than 600 still missing.
Cymek said:
Greetings
Hello.
roughbarked said:
Helene has killed more tham 120 and more than 600 still missing.
*reads comments.
apparently, Ukraine gets all the money.

Peak Warming Man said:
I was hoping that somewhere in Tasmania buzzer would go off or a red light would begin to flash softly.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I was hoping that somewhere in Tasmania buzzer would go off or a red light would begin to flash softly.
What was the meal?
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I was hoping that somewhere in Tasmania buzzer would go off or a red light would begin to flash softly.
What was the meal?
Just a random photo off the internet.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:I was hoping that somewhere in Tasmania buzzer would go off or a red light would begin to flash softly.
What was the meal?
Just a random photo off the internet.
Bummer. It looked interesting, what with a green sauce on seared pork and other stuff.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:What was the meal?
Just a random photo off the internet.
Bummer. It looked interesting, what with a green sauce on seared pork and other stuff.
I was well wrong.
Turns out to be oven-cooked steak.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:Just a random photo off the internet.
Bummer. It looked interesting, what with a green sauce on seared pork and other stuff.
I was well wrong.
Turns out to be oven-cooked steak.
Well done.