Date: 13/10/2024 14:13:38
From: dv
ID: 2204444
Subject: Gombe Chimp War

https://youtu.be/fxWY7rosS-0?si=aA8Nrpp4wlPEwgKu

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

The Gombe Chimpanzee War, also known as the Four-Year War, was a violent conflict between two communities of chimpanzees in Gombe Stream National Park in the Kigoma region of Tanzania between 1974 and 1978. The two groups were once unified in the Kasakela community.

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Jane Goodall is known for her research on chimpanzees. The outbreak of the war shocked her, as she had previously considered chimpanzees to be, although similar to human beings, “rather ‘nicer’”. Coupled with her 1975 observation of cannibalistic infanticide by a high-ranking female in the community, the Gombe war revealed the “dark side” of chimpanzee behavior. In her 1990 memoir Through a Window: My Thirty Years with the Chimpanzees of Gombe, she wrote:

For several years I struggled to come to terms with this new knowledge. Often when I woke in the night, horrific pictures sprang unbidden to my mind—Satan , cupping his hand below Sniff’s chin to drink the blood that welled from a great wound on his face; old Rodolf, usually so benign, standing upright to hurl a four-pound rock at Godi’s prostrate body; Jomeo tearing a strip of skin from Dé’s thigh; Figan, charging and hitting, again and again, the stricken, quivering body of Goliath, one of his childhood heroes.

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Date: 13/10/2024 14:16:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2204447
Subject: re: Gombe Chimp War

dv said:

Jane Goodall is known for her research on chimpanzees. The outbreak of the war shocked her, as she had previously considered chimpanzees to be, although similar to human beings, “rather ‘nicer’”.

LOL the naïvety

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Date: 13/10/2024 14:16:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2204448
Subject: re: Gombe Chimp War

dv said:

Jane Goodall is known for her research on chimpanzees. The outbreak of the war shocked her, as she had previously considered chimpanzees to be, although similar to human beings, “rather ‘nicer’”.

LOL the naïvety

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Date: 13/10/2024 14:31:26
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2204460
Subject: re: Gombe Chimp War

>>left only three Kahama males: Charlie, Sniff, and Willy Wally, who was crippled from polio

Polio, ooh.

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Date: 13/10/2024 14:42:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2204465
Subject: re: Gombe Chimp War

Peak Warming Man said:


>>left only three Kahama males: Charlie, Sniff, and Willy Wally, who was crippled from polio

Polio, ooh.

Polio occurs naturally only in humans. It is highly infectious,
Wiki.

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Date: 13/10/2024 14:46:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2204466
Subject: re: Gombe Chimp War

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

>>left only three Kahama males: Charlie, Sniff, and Willy Wally, who was crippled from polio

Polio, ooh.

Polio occurs naturally only in humans. It is highly infectious,
Wiki.

and mild, less than 1% infected die, let it rip

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Date: 13/10/2024 14:48:47
From: dv
ID: 2204468
Subject: re: Gombe Chimp War

Peak Warming Man said:


>>left only three Kahama males: Charlie, Sniff, and Willy Wally, who was crippled from polio

Polio, ooh.

I think Willy Wally should be mocapped by Andy Serkis.

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Date: 16/10/2024 01:28:07
From: dv
ID: 2205240
Subject: re: Gombe Chimp War

Further to this, here is a report of coordinated attacks by chimps on gorillas, likely a form of interspecies conflict driven by competition for food.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-93829-x

Lethal coalitionary attacks of chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes troglodytes) on gorillas (Gorilla gorilla gorilla) in the wild

Intraspecies violence, including lethal interactions, is a relatively common phenomenon in mammals. Contrarily, interspecies violence has mainly been investigated in the context of predation and received most research attention in carnivores. Here, we provide the first information of two lethal coalitionary attacks of chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes troglodytes) on another hominid species, western lowland gorillas (Gorilla gorilla gorilla), that occur sympatrically in the Loango National Park in Gabon. In both events, the chimpanzees significantly outnumbered the gorillas and victims were infant gorillas. We discuss these observations in light of the two most widely accepted theoretical explanations for interspecific lethal violence, predation and competition, and combinations of the two-intraguild predation and interspecific killing. Given these events meet conditions proposed to trigger coalitional killing of neighbours in chimpanzees, we also discuss them in light of chimpanzees’ intraspecific interactions and territorial nature. Our findings may spur further research into the complexity of interspecies interactions. In addition, they may aid in combining field data from extant models with the Pliocene hominid fossil record to better understand behavioural adaptations and interspecific killing in the hominin lineage.

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