here are the facts

Phil Zuckerman.
13:07 minutes out of your life?

roughbarked said:

here are the facts

Phil Zuckerman.
13:07 minutes out of your life?

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The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

here are the facts

Phil Zuckerman.
13:07 minutes out of your life?

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Which transcript?

Next book to read – Thanks

What It Means to Be Moral: Why Religion Is Not Necessary for Living an Ethical Life – Phil Zuckerman

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

here are the facts

Phil Zuckerman.
13:07 minutes out of your life?

Scanned the transcript :)

Which transcript?

“was kohlberg pretty much on the money yes”

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

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“was kohlberg pretty much on the money yes”

Yes, I think so.

atheists, sucking the souls out of people, soul suckers, that’s what they are

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

here are the facts

Phil Zuckerman.
13:07 minutes out of your life?

Scanned the transcript :)

Which transcript?

The Youtube transcript.

transition said:

atheists, sucking the souls out of people, soul suckers, that’s what they are

the answer to your Q in the OP title is no, as a generalization it’s likely to fail, I am finding some humor right now in the possibility that your proposition allows for atheists to not be people, not human, though probably be safe to assume the people at the end of proposition as put applies to atheists, but I am tempted to go with they’re not, just for some fun, an entertaining thought exercise, see what value might be extracted that way, to torment an atheist somewhere, anywhere, I might enjoy opportunity to demonstrate an atheist coveting my soul, wanting to extinguish it, an occasion to demonstrate the truth of it. I notice demonstrate has a demon in it. So why not a demonic demonstration, a demonstration of the demonic, the work of demons.

what would an absence of moral thought appear like, I wonder

correct, ethics are better than morals, and atheists are more ethical than cultists

transition said:

transition said:

atheists, sucking the souls out of people, soul suckers, that’s what they are

the answer to your Q in the OP title is no, as a generalization it’s likely to fail, I am finding some humor right now in the possibility that your proposition allows for atheists to not be people, not human, though probably be safe to assume the people at the end of proposition as put applies to atheists, but I am tempted to go with they’re not, just for some fun, an entertaining thought exercise, see what value might be extracted that way, to torment an atheist somewhere, anywhere, I might enjoy opportunity to demonstrate an atheist coveting my soul, wanting to extinguish it, an occasion to demonstrate the truth of it. I notice demonstrate has a demon in it. So why not a demonic demonstration, a demonstration of the demonic, the work of demons.

what would an absence of moral thought appear like, I wonder

Nothing more moralistic than demons?

transition said:

transition said:

atheists, sucking the souls out of people, soul suckers, that’s what they are

the answer to your Q in the OP title is no, as a generalization it’s likely to fail, I am finding some humor right now in the possibility that your proposition allows for atheists to not be people, not human, though probably be safe to assume the people at the end of proposition as put applies to atheists, but I am tempted to go with they’re not, just for some fun, an entertaining thought exercise, see what value might be extracted that way, to torment an atheist somewhere, anywhere, I might enjoy opportunity to demonstrate an atheist coveting my soul, wanting to extinguish it, an occasion to demonstrate the truth of it. I notice demonstrate has a demon in it. So why not a demonic demonstration, a demonstration of the demonic, the work of demons.

what would an absence of moral thought appear like, I wonder

You’re a really sick individual. I just thought you were weird, but this is a revolting response.
Yet the people in here still talk to you like you’re an okay person. Pretty sure your audience here is mostly comprised of atheists.

kii said:

transition said:

transition said:

atheists, sucking the souls out of people, soul suckers, that’s what they are

the answer to your Q in the OP title is no, as a generalization it’s likely to fail, I am finding some humor right now in the possibility that your proposition allows for atheists to not be people, not human, though probably be safe to assume the people at the end of proposition as put applies to atheists, but I am tempted to go with they’re not, just for some fun, an entertaining thought exercise, see what value might be extracted that way, to torment an atheist somewhere, anywhere, I might enjoy opportunity to demonstrate an atheist coveting my soul, wanting to extinguish it, an occasion to demonstrate the truth of it. I notice demonstrate has a demon in it. So why not a demonic demonstration, a demonstration of the demonic, the work of demons.

what would an absence of moral thought appear like, I wonder

You’re a really sick individual. I just thought you were weird, but this is a revolting response.
Yet the people in here still talk to you like you’re an okay person. Pretty sure your audience here is mostly comprised of atheists.

don’t let a stunted theory of brian get in the way of missing the humor, and lurching attributions

You only have to compare the Baptist Kamala Harris to the atheist Donald Trump, the latter is the most moral person in history, some say he invented morality.

dv said:

You only have to compare the Baptist Kamala Harris to the atheist Donald Trump, the latter is the most moral person in history, some say he invented morality.

You really think Trump is intelligent enough to be an atheist?

Since all US politicians have to either be or pretend to be Christian, I suppose we’ll never know.

Comes down to individuality I imagine

I

I am an an atheist and reasonably moral

I find it very strange that morality often only seems to apply to people of your nation state.

All humans are equal so that morality should extend to ones “enemies” as well.

I don’t want a reward if I help someone, apart from actual work.

Life is cruel and we all have a responsibility to not add to it.

I’m sorry but religion is just stupid

Its illogical and a primitive belief to try and explain the world and force morality onto people
It takes advantage of people and uses them as fodder for wars.

If religion shut up and stopped forcing itself onto people it might be slightly more palatable.

Religion has damaged humanity,
It has placed followers in conflict with other peoples rights.
Given children nightmares.
Sent people into mental hospital.
Created wars.
Deceived people of the truth.
Wasted billions of human hours.
Impaired peoples thinking.
Impaired peoples observation.
Impaired peoples, logic and ethics.
Impaired peoples empathy towards others.
Creates emotions that are uniquely connected to entities and spaces that do not exist in reality.
Creates hightened chemical reactions in the human body based on hightened emotions.
Religion prays on the vulnerable.
Religious extremism can send suicide bombers to kill others.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Religion has damaged humanity,
It has placed followers in conflict with other peoples rights.
Given children nightmares.
Sent people into mental hospital.
Created wars.
Deceived people of the truth.
Wasted billions of human hours.
Impaired peoples thinking.
Impaired peoples observation.
Impaired peoples, logic and ethics.
Impaired peoples empathy towards others.
Creates emotions that are uniquely connected to entities and spaces that do not exist in reality.
Creates hightened chemical reactions in the human body based on hightened emotions.
Religion prays on the vulnerable.
Religious extremism can send suicide bombers to kill others.

Religion unnecessarily superimposes things that don’t exist onto a universe that does exist.
Religion needs to address the non existence of Gods and accept the universe for what it is.
Believe in the universe instead.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Religion has damaged humanity,
It has placed followers in conflict with other peoples rights.
Given children nightmares.
Sent people into mental hospital.
Created wars.
Deceived people of the truth.
Wasted billions of human hours.
Impaired peoples thinking.
Impaired peoples observation.
Impaired peoples, logic and ethics.
Impaired peoples empathy towards others.
Creates emotions that are uniquely connected to entities and spaces that do not exist in reality.
Creates hightened chemical reactions in the human body based on hightened emotions.
Religion prays on the vulnerable.
Religious extremism can send suicide bombers to kill others.

Religion unnecessarily superimposes things that don’t exist onto a universe that does exist.
Religion needs to address the non existence of Gods and accept the universe for what it is.
Believe in the universe instead.

Religious people who place themselves above others as in having superior morals are on fact violating other people’s rights on abortion gays and trans rights.

They place themselves above the law as in being very similar to sovereign citizens.

All people are different.

Different scales.

Different thoughts.

Tau.Neutrino said:

All people are different.

Different scales.

Different thoughts.

All religious people are not in the same boat.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Religion has damaged humanity,
It has placed followers in conflict with other peoples rights.
Given children nightmares.
Sent people into mental hospital.
Created wars.
Deceived people of the truth.
Wasted billions of human hours.
Impaired peoples thinking.
Impaired peoples observation.
Impaired peoples, logic and ethics.
Impaired peoples empathy towards others.
Creates emotions that are uniquely connected to entities and spaces that do not exist in reality.
Creates hightened chemical reactions in the human body based on hightened emotions.
Religion prays on the vulnerable.
Religious extremism can send suicide bombers to kill others.

It has also influenced our laws.