Fun to begin with.
SCIENCE said:
Fun to begin with.
The fog?
It is a fair bet that he’s talking about either unvaccinated people getting Covid or that bird flu has found its way into their neighbourhood?
SCIENCE said:
Fun to begin with.
You’ve been sick for at least 5 years.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Fun to begin with.
The fog?
It is a fair bet that he’s talking about either unvaccinated people getting Covid or that bird flu has found its way into their neighbourhood?
Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
SCIENCE said:
Fun to begin with.
I wonder how many will pass away…I mean die.
Dead.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Fun to begin with.
The fog?
It is a fair bet that he’s talking about either unvaccinated people getting Covid or that bird flu has found its way into their neighbourhood?
Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
might just be the flu.
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
The fog?
It is a fair bet that he’s talking about either unvaccinated people getting Covid or that bird flu has found its way into their neighbourhood?
Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
might just be the flu.
you mean a good mask could protect us from influenza
¿
imagine that
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:
The fog?
It is a fair bet that he’s talking about either unvaccinated people getting Covid or that bird flu has found its way into their neighbourhood?
Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Your kidding right?
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
bloody hell!
sending grapes and flowers.
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Your kidding right?
No.
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:
The fog?
It is a fair bet that he’s talking about either unvaccinated people getting Covid or that bird flu has found its way into their neighbourhood?
Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
might just be the flu.
Always that chance.
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Oh shit.
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Oh!
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Your kidding right?
No.
But……….but you;re young and fit
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Yow! It’s a bad season for Forumite and Forumite-relative health crises.
Be strong, Arts, and we’ll see you when you come out the other side of this.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Oh shit.
What’s gone wrong?
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Yow! It’s a bad season for Forumite and Forumite-relative health crises.
Be strong, Arts, and we’ll see you when you come out the other side of this.
+1
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:Your kidding right?
No.
But……….but you;re young and fit
And three weeks ago was hiking up mountains in newzealand without a fucking care, yet here we are
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:No.
But……….but you;re young and fit
And three weeks ago was hiking up mountains in newzealand without a fucking care, yet here we are
Yeah. Here you are. :( Have they informed you whether it is a congenital thing?
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
No.
But……….but you;re young and fit
And three weeks ago was hiking up mountains in newzealand without a fucking care, yet here we are
well fuck, sorry about that
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:No.
But……….but you;re young and fit
And three weeks ago was hiking up mountains in newzealand without a fucking care, yet here we are
Blimey, take care and don’t stress it.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:But……….but you;re young and fit
And three weeks ago was hiking up mountains in newzealand without a fucking care, yet here we are
Yeah. Here you are. :( Have they informed you whether it is a congenital thing?
Does it matter why? This is it. How it happened is not the issue. How they fix it is.
I don’t smoke. Don’t drink. Eat healthy. Stay active. Had no indication that something was wrong until four fucking days ago. And the only solution is to crack my ribs open and stop my heart to try to repair. If they can’t repair they will put in a alien (probably) valve and it changes my life forever
I am so mired in stage two right now.
Sorry for hijaking the thread SCI
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:And three weeks ago was hiking up mountains in newzealand without a fucking care, yet here we are
Yeah. Here you are. :( Have they informed you whether it is a congenital thing?
Does it matter why? This is it. How it happened is not the issue. How they fix it is.
I don’t smoke. Don’t drink. Eat healthy. Stay active. Had no indication that something was wrong until four fucking days ago. And the only solution is to crack my ribs open and stop my heart to try to repair. If they can’t repair they will put in a alien (probably) valve and it changes my life forever
I am so mired in stage two right now.
Sorry for hijaking the thread SCI
Fark!
Very sorry to hear that, Spocky & I wish you the best for the op & recovery.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:And three weeks ago was hiking up mountains in newzealand without a fucking care, yet here we are
Yeah. Here you are. :( Have they informed you whether it is a congenital thing?
Does it matter why? This is it. How it happened is not the issue. How they fix it is.
I don’t smoke. Don’t drink. Eat healthy. Stay active. Had no indication that something was wrong until four fucking days ago. And the only solution is to crack my ribs open and stop my heart to try to repair. If they can’t repair they will put in a alien (probably) valve and it changes my life forever
I am so mired in stage two right now.
Sorry for hijaking the thread SCI
You are at least in good hands. Hoping to see you up and about again soon.
Spiny Norman said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Yeah. Here you are. :( Have they informed you whether it is a congenital thing?
Does it matter why? This is it. How it happened is not the issue. How they fix it is.
I don’t smoke. Don’t drink. Eat healthy. Stay active. Had no indication that something was wrong until four fucking days ago. And the only solution is to crack my ribs open and stop my heart to try to repair. If they can’t repair they will put in a alien (probably) valve and it changes my life forever
I am so mired in stage two right now.
Sorry for hijaking the thread SCI
Fark!
Very sorry to hear that, Spocky & I wish you the best for the op & recovery.
+1.
roughbarked said:
Spiny Norman said:
Arts said:Does it matter why? This is it. How it happened is not the issue. How they fix it is.
I don’t smoke. Don’t drink. Eat healthy. Stay active. Had no indication that something was wrong until four fucking days ago. And the only solution is to crack my ribs open and stop my heart to try to repair. If they can’t repair they will put in a alien (probably) valve and it changes my life forever
I am so mired in stage two right now.
Sorry for hijaking the thread SCI
Fark!
Very sorry to hear that, Spocky & I wish you the best for the op & recovery.
+1.
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:No.
But……….but you;re young and fit
And three weeks ago was hiking up mountains in newzealand without a fucking care, yet here we are
Crikey Arts. Sorry to hear you are going through this. Wishing you well for the surgery and for a speedy recovery.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
And three weeks ago was hiking up mountains in newzealand without a fucking care, yet here we are
Yeah. Here you are. :( Have they informed you whether it is a congenital thing?
Does it matter why? This is it. How it happened is not the issue. How they fix it is.
I don’t smoke. Don’t drink. Eat healthy. Stay active. Had no indication that something was wrong until four fucking days ago. And the only solution is to crack my ribs open and stop my heart to try to repair. If they can’t repair they will put in a alien (probably) valve and it changes my life forever
I am so mired in stage two right now.
Sorry for hijaking the thread SCI
no all good, thoughts and PPEs, we like people to be healthy and well, see yous on the other side
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:No.
But……….but you;re young and fit
And three weeks ago was hiking up mountains in newzealand without a fucking care, yet here we are
Sometimes I get the feeling that this universe sucks…
Arts said:
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Bloody hell. I am shocked. Genuinely shocked.
Get well really soon
Arts, do you have a boat?
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Your kidding right?
No.
shit. huggy emoji.sending my bests.
kii said:
Arts, do you have a boat?
lol. You fucker.
ruby said:
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:But……….but you;re young and fit
And three weeks ago was hiking up mountains in newzealand without a fucking care, yet here we are
Crikey Arts. Sorry to hear you are going through this. Wishing you well for the surgery and for a speedy recovery.
+1
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
That’s a shock.
My very best wishes for a successful outcome.
You don’t need me to tell you to be strong :)
party_pants said:
Arts said:On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Bloody hell. I am shocked. Genuinely shocked.
Get well really soon
Hope all goes well
Nothing to worry about really
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Bloody hell. I am shocked. Genuinely shocked.
Get well really soon
Hope all goes well
Nothing to worry about really
If I recall correctly you had heart surgery a few years ago.
kii said:
Cymek said:
party_pants said:Bloody hell. I am shocked. Genuinely shocked.
Get well really soon
Hope all goes well
Nothing to worry about really
If I recall correctly you had heart surgery a few years ago.
Yes about 5 years I think it is now.
Was no problem at all.
Was in hospital for about 5 days after the surgery
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
I think you should cancel all future trips to NZ. (Yes, I’ve read further on. I hope things pan out OK)
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Bloody hell. I am shocked. Genuinely shocked.
Get well really soon
Hope all goes well
Nothing to worry about really
I know you are probably trying to reassure me but I’m still worried.
Arts said:
Cymek said:
party_pants said:Bloody hell. I am shocked. Genuinely shocked.
Get well really soon
Hope all goes well
Nothing to worry about really
I know you are probably trying to reassure me but I’m still worried.
Fair enough
Cymek said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:Hope all goes well
Nothing to worry about really
I know you are probably trying to reassure me but I’m still worried.
Fair enough
You will get a few scars from it.
One on your chest and one were they take an artery.
The surgeon with me did a good job of minimising the scare on my forearm so it wouldn’t damage my tattoo
Bubblecar said:
ruby said:
Arts said:And three weeks ago was hiking up mountains in newzealand without a fucking care, yet here we are
Crikey Arts. Sorry to hear you are going through this. Wishing you well for the surgery and for a speedy recovery.
+1
+ several
Just opened the forum and I see this.
Guess they’ll do a CABG. Really routine stuff.. no really.
Get well soon Arts :)
Cymek said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:I know you are probably trying to reassure me but I’m still worried.
Fair enough
You will get a few scars from it.
One on your chest and one were they take an artery.
The surgeon with me did a good job of minimising the scare on my forearm so it wouldn’t damage my tattoo
Mine is full open heart surgery to repair a valve. So the chest scar should be the only one.
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Cymek said:Fair enough
You will get a few scars from it.
One on your chest and one were they take an artery.
The surgeon with me did a good job of minimising the scare on my forearm so it wouldn’t damage my tattoo
Mine is full open heart surgery to repair a valve. So the chest scar should be the only one.
OK that is good.
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:Well all right we wouldn’t know if this is it but we’dn’t be surprised if the antiinfectionists realised they could play the same game and use disinformation conspiracy theorist plays to change behaviour, as in tell a white lung lie to get the children to behave, call it an invisible odourless fog that the governments are allowing to poison everyone and the only way to protect yourself from the mind control is to wear a damn good mask
wait.¿¡
might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Bloody hell.
Do you need anything brought?
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Cymek said:Fair enough
You will get a few scars from it.
One on your chest and one were they take an artery.
The surgeon with me did a good job of minimising the scare on my forearm so it wouldn’t damage my tattoo
Mine is full open heart surgery to repair a valve. So the chest scar should be the only one.
I’m still in denial that arts actually has a heart.
😎
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:You will get a few scars from it.
One on your chest and one were they take an artery.
The surgeon with me did a good job of minimising the scare on my forearm so it wouldn’t damage my tattoo
Mine is full open heart surgery to repair a valve. So the chest scar should be the only one.
I’m still in denial that arts actually has a heart.
😎
LOL
dv said:
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:might just be the flu.
On Sunday night I went to bed and found I couldn’t lie flat and breathe at the same time. After a night of agony I went to ED in the morning. I am now in hospital awaiting open heart surgery Sometime shit just fucking happens
Bloody hell.
Do you need anything brought?
That’s nice of you but I have a lot of support. Thank you.
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:You will get a few scars from it.
One on your chest and one were they take an artery.
The surgeon with me did a good job of minimising the scare on my forearm so it wouldn’t damage my tattoo
Mine is full open heart surgery to repair a valve. So the chest scar should be the only one.
I’m still in denial that arts actually has a heart.
😎
I saw it on the ultrasound… and heard it. They couldn’t tell the temperature of it though so please don’t change your perception of me
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:Mine is full open heart surgery to repair a valve. So the chest scar should be the only one.
I’m still in denial that arts actually has a heart.
😎
I saw it on the ultrasound… and heard it. They couldn’t tell the temperature of it though so please don’t change your perception of me
Did you not travel the yellow brick road to fix this.
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
Mine is full open heart surgery to repair a valve. So the chest scar should be the only one.
I’m still in denial that arts actually has a heart.
😎
I saw it on the ultrasound… and heard it. They couldn’t tell the temperature of it though so please don’t change your perception of me
Hey maybe you can tell everyone how the capital punishment drugs feel isn’t it the same stuff they use to stop the heart before they put it on ice¿
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I’m still in denial that arts actually has a heart.
😎
I saw it on the ultrasound… and heard it. They couldn’t tell the temperature of it though so please don’t change your perception of me
Hey maybe you can tell everyone how the capital punishment drugs feel isn’t it the same stuff they use to stop the heart before they put it on ice¿
I think that you go nighty-night before they give you that one.
French scientists studying H5N1 bird flu prevalence in cats found 13 out of 578 blood samples positive.
“Potentially, it amounts to thousands or tens of thousands of cats that could have been infected in France.”
Kingy said:
French scientists studying H5N1 bird flu prevalence in cats found 13 out of 578 blood samples positive.“Potentially, it amounts to thousands or tens of thousands of cats that could have been infected in France.”
This has the potential to make COVID look like a bad case of hiccups.
LOL
Researchers have discovered that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein persists in the brain and skull bone marrow for years after infection, potentially leading to chronic inflammation and neurodegenerative diseases.
https://scitechdaily.com/long-covid-breakthrough-spike-proteins-persist-in-brain-for-years/
DOI: 10.1016/j.chom.2024.11.007
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Researchers have discovered that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein persists in the brain and skull bone marrow for years after infection, potentially leading to chronic inflammation and neurodegenerative diseases.
https://scitechdaily.com/long-covid-breakthrough-spike-proteins-persist-in-brain-for-years/
DOI: 10.1016/j.chom.2024.11.007
Doesn’t seem to be a laughing matter.
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Researchers have discovered that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein persists in the brain and skull bone marrow for years after infection, potentially leading to chronic inflammation and neurodegenerative diseases.
https://scitechdaily.com/long-covid-breakthrough-spike-proteins-persist-in-brain-for-years/
DOI: 10.1016/j.chom.2024.11.007
https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1931-3128%2824%2900438-4
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:LOL
Researchers have discovered that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein persists in the brain and skull bone marrow for years after infection, potentially leading to chronic inflammation and neurodegenerative diseases.
https://scitechdaily.com/long-covid-breakthrough-spike-proteins-persist-in-brain-for-years/
DOI: 10.1016/j.chom.2024.11.007
Doesn’t seem to be a laughing matter.
But have they looked for leftovers from every other infection the person has had before too? I have no idea what gets sequestered during a lifetime.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:LOL
Researchers have discovered that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein persists in the brain and skull bone marrow for years after infection, potentially leading to chronic inflammation and neurodegenerative diseases.
https://scitechdaily.com/long-covid-breakthrough-spike-proteins-persist-in-brain-for-years/
DOI: 10.1016/j.chom.2024.11.007
Doesn’t seem to be a laughing matter.
But have they looked for leftovers from every other infection the person has had before too? I have no idea what gets sequestered during a lifetime.
reading that page, be very surprised if only 50-60% of world population has had covid, unbelievable really, to me anyway
transition said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:Doesn’t seem to be a laughing matter.
But have they looked for leftovers from every other infection the person has had before too? I have no idea what gets sequestered during a lifetime.
reading that page, be very surprised if only 50-60% of world population has had covid, unbelievable really, to me anyway
transition said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:Doesn’t seem to be a laughing matter.
But have they looked for leftovers from every other infection the person has had before too? I have no idea what gets sequestered during a lifetime.
reading that page, be very surprised if only 50-60% of world population has had covid, unbelievable really, to me anyway
I’m still Covid-free.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
buffy said:But have they looked for leftovers from every other infection the person has had before too? I have no idea what gets sequestered during a lifetime.
reading that page, be very surprised if only 50-60% of world population has had covid, unbelievable really, to me anyway
I’m still Covid-free.
And as far as we are aware, neither Mrs V nor I have had Covid.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
buffy said:But have they looked for leftovers from every other infection the person has had before too? I have no idea what gets sequestered during a lifetime.
reading that page, be very surprised if only 50-60% of world population has had covid, unbelievable really, to me anyway
I’m still Covid-free.
As far as I know, so am I. Mr buffy had to test this morning before surgery and he was negative.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:reading that page, be very surprised if only 50-60% of world population has had covid, unbelievable really, to me anyway
I’m still Covid-free.
As far as I know, so am I. Mr buffy had to test this morning before surgery and he was negative.
Same here for Spocky and me. We’ve been masking for five years now, no hint of stopping any time soon.
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:I’m still Covid-free.
As far as I know, so am I. Mr buffy had to test this morning before surgery and he was negative.
Same here for Spocky and me. We’ve been masking for five years now, no hint of stopping any time soon.
We don’t mask. But we don’t do crowds.
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
buffy said:As far as I know, so am I. Mr buffy had to test this morning before surgery and he was negative.
Same here for Spocky and me. We’ve been masking for five years now, no hint of stopping any time soon.
We don’t mask. But we don’t do crowds.
You’ve been lucky then. The virus can hang around airborne in a room for up to four hours.
I’ve had it once that I know of
Surprising considering the environment I work in
The court people are not the best for health or hygiene
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Michael V said:Doesn’t seem to be a laughing matter.
But have they looked for leftovers from every other infection the person has had before too? I have no idea what gets sequestered during a lifetime.
reading that page, be very surprised if only 50-60% of world population has had covid, unbelievable really, to me anyway
reassuring it is, that page better that hints at it, that the spike protein induced by vaccine is an entirely different beast, not toxic at all, to anyone
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/01/06/nx-s1-5250251/bird-flu-death-louisiana
ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Researchers have discovered that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein persists in the brain and skull bone marrow for years after infection, potentially leading to chronic inflammation and neurodegenerative diseases.
https://scitechdaily.com/long-covid-breakthrough-spike-proteins-persist-in-brain-for-years/
DOI: 10.1016/j.chom.2024.11.007
Doesn’t seem to be a laughing matter.
oh come on chin up now have a sense of humour
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interesting take
New data from researchers in Denmark suggest that children who have a lot of common infections early in life have higher risk of moderate to severe infections and antibiotic use throughout childhood.
nice
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Better warm up the bulldozers in the US.
They’re going to need some more big holes.
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oh wait only when your multimilliondollar homes are returned to the air ¿
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oh wait only when your multimilliondollar homes are returned to the air ¿
Yeah. Who’d want to breathe in that shit?
Pneumonia is quite popular the latter part of last year and this year so far.
“I realised that in that hotel in Melbourne, I was fed with some food that poisoned me,” said Djokovic, who is known to monitor his diet strictly.
“I had some discoveries when I came back to Serbia. I never told this to anybody publicly, but discoveries that I was, I had a really high level of heavy metal. Heavy metal.
“I had the lead, very high level of lead and mercury.”
Novak Djokovic claims he was ‘poisoned’ during COVID detention before Australian Open
poikilotherm said:
Pneumonia is quite popular the latter part of last year and this year so far.
Not popular with me. I had it once. Nearly died. Took a long time to recover – many months.
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Pneumonia is quite popular the latter part of last year and this year so far.
Not popular with me. I had it once. Nearly died. Took a long time to recover – many months.
It would likely cause me to cark it so have been given the pneumonia vaccine.
roughbarked said:
“I realised that in that hotel in Melbourne, I was fed with some food that poisoned me,” said Djokovic, who is known to monitor his diet strictly.“I had some discoveries when I came back to Serbia. I never told this to anybody publicly, but discoveries that I was, I had a really high level of heavy metal. Heavy metal.
“I had the lead, very high level of lead and mercury.”
Novak Djokovic claims he was ‘poisoned’ during COVID detention before Australian Open
I’m sure that if he could go even part the way towards proving that assertion, he would have sued.
I take his claim with a large pinch of salt.
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Pneumonia is quite popular the latter part of last year and this year so far.
Not popular with me. I had it once. Nearly died. Took a long time to recover – many months.
Had to import Korean azithromycin to keep up with demand in the Styx.
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Pneumonia is quite popular the latter part of last year and this year so far.
Not popular with me. I had it once. Nearly died. Took a long time to recover – many months.
Had to import Korean azithromycin to keep up with demand in the Styx.
Eyes pop.
Gosh!
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
“I realised that in that hotel in Melbourne, I was fed with some food that poisoned me,” said Djokovic, who is known to monitor his diet strictly.“I had some discoveries when I came back to Serbia. I never told this to anybody publicly, but discoveries that I was, I had a really high level of heavy metal. Heavy metal.
“I had the lead, very high level of lead and mercury.”
Novak Djokovic claims he was ‘poisoned’ during COVID detention before Australian Open
I’m sure that if he could go even part the way towards proving that assertion, he would have sued.
I take his claim with a large pinch of salt.
Yeah. Even if it was true that he had picked up heavy metals, it is highly likely that it wasn’t from the food in Melbourne. More likely from the air and water in Europe or America.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
“I realised that in that hotel in Melbourne, I was fed with some food that poisoned me,” said Djokovic, who is known to monitor his diet strictly.“I had some discoveries when I came back to Serbia. I never told this to anybody publicly, but discoveries that I was, I had a really high level of heavy metal. Heavy metal.
“I had the lead, very high level of lead and mercury.”
Novak Djokovic claims he was ‘poisoned’ during COVID detention before Australian Open
I’m sure that if he could go even part the way towards proving that assertion, he would have sued.
I take his claim with a large pinch of salt.
Yeah. Even if it was true that he had picked up heavy metals, it is highly likely that it wasn’t from the food in Melbourne. More likely from the air and water in Europe or America.
Well, I don’t think we can say that – locally grown food is not routinely tested for heavy metals, or even anything, really, IIRC.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:I’m sure that if he could go even part the way towards proving that assertion, he would have sued.
I take his claim with a large pinch of salt.
Yeah. Even if it was true that he had picked up heavy metals, it is highly likely that it wasn’t from the food in Melbourne. More likely from the air and water in Europe or America.
Well, I don’t think we can say that – locally grown food is not routinely tested for heavy metals, or even anything, really, IIRC.
OK.
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Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Yeah. Even if it was true that he had picked up heavy metals, it is highly likely that it wasn’t from the food in Melbourne. More likely from the air and water in Europe or America.
Well, I don’t think we can say that – locally grown food is not routinely tested for heavy metals, or even anything, really, IIRC.
OK.
but it is, through consuming it, and finding that consumers are often and heavily poisoned by those locally grown foods … wait
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Jasper de Buyst is a rider that over the years has proven himself fully on the road and track, but he faces a challenge that is perhaps the biggest in his career. After suffering from Covid-19, the Lotto rider is going through health complications to this day that continue to directly prevent him from performing like in the past.
nice
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Jasper de Buyst is a rider that over the years has proven himself fully on the road and track, but he faces a challenge that is perhaps the biggest in his career. After suffering from Covid-19, the Lotto rider is going through health complications to this day that continue to directly prevent him from performing like in the past.
nice
I go in for my 8th vacc., on Monday.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
“I realised that in that hotel in Melbourne, I was fed with some food that poisoned me,” said Djokovic, who is known to monitor his diet strictly.“I had some discoveries when I came back to Serbia. I never told this to anybody publicly, but discoveries that I was, I had a really high level of heavy metal. Heavy metal.
“I had the lead, very high level of lead and mercury.”
Novak Djokovic claims he was ‘poisoned’ during COVID detention before Australian Open
I’m sure that if he could go even part the way towards proving that assertion, he would have sued.
I take his claim with a large pinch of salt.
He didn’t like to think he might have to conform like normal people do in an emergency health situation. He is apparently a good tennis player. That does not mean he’s better at anything else in life than everyone else.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
“I realised that in that hotel in Melbourne, I was fed with some food that poisoned me,” said Djokovic, who is known to monitor his diet strictly.“I had some discoveries when I came back to Serbia. I never told this to anybody publicly, but discoveries that I was, I had a really high level of heavy metal. Heavy metal.
“I had the lead, very high level of lead and mercury.”
Novak Djokovic claims he was ‘poisoned’ during COVID detention before Australian Open
I’m sure that if he could go even part the way towards proving that assertion, he would have sued.
I take his claim with a large pinch of salt.
kii said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
“I realised that in that hotel in Melbourne, I was fed with some food that poisoned me,” said Djokovic, who is known to monitor his diet strictly.“I had some discoveries when I came back to Serbia. I never told this to anybody publicly, but discoveries that I was, I had a really high level of heavy metal. Heavy metal.
“I had the lead, very high level of lead and mercury.”
Novak Djokovic claims he was ‘poisoned’ during COVID detention before Australian Open
I’m sure that if he could go even part the way towards proving that assertion, he would have sued.
I take his claim with a large pinch of salt.
Macca in Australia have vegemite flavoured fries/chips now
https://mcdonalds.com.au/menu/vegemite-mcshaker-fries
It doesn’t work as well I don’t think if its not spread on toast or bread
ah the zarkovs and the light metal poisonings
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Unusual Increase in Poliovirus Detections: Multiple Countries Event Summary: Since September 2024, circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus type 2 (cVDPV2) has been detected in wastewater samples in routine surveillance from multiple cities across Europe and in Melbourne, Australia. Further, a paralytic case of poliomyelitis (serotype 1) was reported in Israel on December 25, 2024, in an unvaccinated 17- year-old child, with further information not publicly available. These detections are highly unusual given the WHO European Region and Western Pacific Region achieved polio elimination in 2002 and 2000, respectively. Polio has been eliminated in the WHO Region of the Americas since 1994. However, in 2022, circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus was detected in Canadian wastewater, following multiple detections in the United Kingdom, Israel, and the United States. The sequence of these viruses were related, indicating they were connected by travelling infected persons. This highlights the risk of cVDPV2 importation. The recent signals serve as a reminder to stay vigilant for signs of polio even in elimination settings.
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and yes this time we checked
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=980840010578494&set=a.443072441021923
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Consumer Reports has posted a recommendation for people to wear N95s for wildfire smoke pollution, along with suggestions to stay indoors, run air purifiers, etc.
This reasonable suggestion of how people can protect themselves from hazardous particulate pollution has been met with much knee-jerk opposition to masks, and even to the very concept of the need clean air.
There are few anti-maskers in the comments who concede that masks can work for wood smoke, but then falsely claim but not for covid, not knowing that wood smoke pollution is actually smaller than covid-containing respiratory droplets, and is around the same size as bare virus particles. Fortunately, N95s are very efficient at filtering all of these sizes, and work even better the better the mask seals on your face.
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and yes this time we checked
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=980840010578494&set=a.443072441021923
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Consumer Reports has posted a recommendation for people to wear N95s for wildfire smoke pollution, along with suggestions to stay indoors, run air purifiers, etc.
This reasonable suggestion of how people can protect themselves from hazardous particulate pollution has been met with much knee-jerk opposition to masks, and even to the very concept of the need clean air.
There are few anti-maskers in the comments who concede that masks can work for wood smoke, but then falsely claim but not for covid, not knowing that wood smoke pollution is actually smaller than covid-containing respiratory droplets, and is around the same size as bare virus particles. Fortunately, N95s are very efficient at filtering all of these sizes, and work even better the better the mask seals on your face.
Heh!
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Ha!
LOL shit
shit LOL
oooh this could get fun
https://globalnews.ca/news/10964079/rabies-vaccine-shortage-ontario/
Toronto Public Health says it is conserving its rabies vaccine supply due to a shortage in Ontario.
SCIENCE said:
oooh this could get fun
https://globalnews.ca/news/10964079/rabies-vaccine-shortage-ontario/
Toronto Public Health says it is conserving its rabies vaccine supply due to a shortage in Ontario.
I’ve had a rabies shot, nearly killed me.
SCIENCE said:
Ha!
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United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres warned that COVID was “a wake-up call to the world”. “The COVID-19 crisis may have passed, but a harsh lesson remains: the world is woefully unprepared for the next pandemic,” he said.
passed hey are you some kind of genius
His remarks resonated with recent comments from WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. “If the next pandemic arrived today, the world would still face some of the same weaknesses and vulnerabilities that gave COVID-19 a foothold five years ago,” he said. “But the world has also learned many of the painful lessons the pandemic taught us, and has taken significant steps to strengthen its defences against future epidemics and pandemics.”
going to put it out there that the world has unlearned important lessons and defences are weakened instead
prove us wrong
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guess who’s shitting themselves and not least because influenza can cause gastroenteritis
Avian Influenza Prevention Zone declared for whole of EnglandMandatory enhanced biosecurity will now be required and the housing order extended to cover York, North Yorkshire and Shropshire.
From: Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and Animal and Plant Health Agency
Published 24 January 2025The UK Chief Veterinary Officer has ordered a new Avian Influenza Prevention Zone AIPZ to cover the whole of England from noon on Saturday 25 January following the escalating number of cases of avian influenza and continued heightened risk levels in wild birds.
The move will require keepers to conduct enhanced biosecurity to mitigate the risk of further outbreaks of the disease.
A housing order has also been extended in the north of England to now cover York and North Yorkshire, and a new Housing Order has been ordered for Shropshire following an outbreak in the county. This will come into force at 00:01 on Monday 27th January.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/avian-influenza-prevention-zone-declared-for-whole-of-england
SCIENCE said:
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guess who’s shitting themselves and not least because influenza can cause gastroenteritis
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/avian-influenza-prevention-zone-declared-for-whole-of-england
oooh fun fun
Child deaths in England rising above pre-pandemic levels, study finds
Number surges after temporary decline during lockdowns, with rate higher for children from non-white backgrounds
Jamie Grierson
Fri 24 Jan 2025 06.00 AEDTChild deaths in England have risen to new levels after a temporary fall during the Covid-19 pandemic, a study has found.
The study, published in the PLOS Medicine journal, shows children were less likely to die between April 2020 and March 2021, a period when lockdowns were in place, than at any time before or since. There were 377 fewer deaths than expected from the previous 12-month period.
However, while the number of deaths in the following year, 2021-22, was similar to before the pandemic, in 2022-23, there were 258 more deaths than expected from 2020-21 period, researchers at the University of Bristol found using the National Child Mortality Database (NCMD).
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/23/child-deaths-in-england-rising-above-pre-pandemic-levels-study-finds
https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1004417
Nice timing¡
wait until they tell yous where that laboratory is
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Nice timing¡
wait until they tell yous where that laboratory is
Whispers: “Dunny Rump”.
entertain
Yeah But But But Pokemon Gotta Catch Them All Don’t Die When They Evolve
Bubblecar said:
Some children starting school ‘unable to climb staircase’, finds England and Wales teacher survey
‘Covid baby’ explanation starting to feel like an excuse, say some teachers, as quarter of children begin reception in nappies
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/jan/30/some-children-starting-school-unable-to-climb-staircase-finds-england-and-wales-teacher-survey
starting to¿ Always was
WTF
party time
“Quad-demic”?
What do you call this???
Octadeca-demic?
H/T @1goodtern for graphs
If you add these 18 to the quad-demic
And add in HMPV for good measure
You would have a
“vigesima-tredecim-demic”23 diseases on the rise
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
Some children starting school ‘unable to climb staircase’, finds England and Wales teacher survey
‘Covid baby’ explanation starting to feel like an excuse, say some teachers, as quarter of children begin reception in nappies
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/jan/30/some-children-starting-school-unable-to-climb-staircase-finds-england-and-wales-teacher-survey
starting to¿ Always was
WTF
No Way
OKLAHOMA CITY, (KOKH) — Several Oklahoma school districts have either moved to digital learning or closed campus for Jan. 30 and Jan. 31. Schools have stated that the decision to move online/close was motivated by an uptick in illness of staff and students.
oh
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I weep.
excellent ¡ news
Plasma proteomic evidence for increased β-amyloid pathology after SARS-CoV-2 infection
Previous studies have suggested that systemic viral infections may increase risks of dementia. Whether this holds true for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) virus infections is unknown. Determining this is important for anticipating the potential future incidence of dementia. To begin to do this, we measured plasma biomarkers linked to Alzheimer’s disease pathology in the UK Biobank before and after serology-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infections. SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with biomarkers associated with β-amyloid pathology: reduced plasma Aβ42:Aβ40 ratio and, in more vulnerable participants, lower plasma Aβ42 and higher plasma pTau-181. The plasma biomarker changes were greater in participants who had been hospitalized with COVID-19 or had reported hypertension previously. We showed that the changes in biomarkers were linked to brain structural imaging patterns associated with Alzheimer’s disease, lower cognitive test scores and poorer overall health evaluations. Our data from this post hoc case–control matched study thus provide observational biomarker evidence that SARS-CoV-2 infection can be associated with greater brain β-amyloid pathology in older adults. While these results do not establish causality, they suggest that SARS-CoV-2 (and possibly other systemic inflammatory diseases) may increase the risk of future Alzheimer’s disease.
mild
Barbie Hsu died of pneumonia triggered by flu contracted in Japan, her younger sister Dee Hsu said in a statement. Hsu began a pop music group as a teenager before moving into acting, gaining fame across Asia with 2001 series Meteor Garden. Social media users across Taiwan and China paid tribute to her.
This could end up being a pretty hot thread this year
dv said:
This could end up being a pretty hot thread this year
we’re happy for it to undergo fission if required
SCIENCE said:
mild
Barbie Hsu died of pneumonia triggered by flu contracted in Japan, her younger sister Dee Hsu said in a statement. Hsu began a pop music group as a teenager before moving into acting, gaining fame across Asia with 2001 series Meteor Garden. Social media users across Taiwan and China paid tribute to her.
https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/panic-grips-japan-as-deadly-flu-outbreak-rages-a-warning-for-travellers/
3rd February 2025 – (Tokyo) A nationwide influenza outbreak of staggering magnitude has brought this island nation to its knees, shattering all recorded case data and leaving a wake of overwhelmed hospitals, scarce medical supplies, and tragically, fatalities. The untimely death of Taiwanese actress Barbie Hsu from flu complications at just 48 years old highlights the severity of the virus’s impact.
The numbers out of Japan are nothing short of astonishing. During the final week of December 2024, the country logged over 317,000 new influenza cases – a record-shattering total more than triple the previous year’s tally for the same period. The average of 64 cases per medical institution obliterated the previous high-water mark and saw warning levels breached in a staggering 43 of Japan’s 47 prefectures. Certain regions like Oita reeled under a crushing 104 cases per institution.
entertainment
yeah well who cares anyway westerners don’t get tuberculosis
We worked for months with USAID to build an $85,000,000 project to end TB in two regions of the Philippines.
The project is funded by private money, the Philippine government, and matching USAID funds.
It could provide a blueprint for eliminating TB worldwide—except it’s…not happening.
USAID matters. I’ve often disagreed with their strategy and choices, but their work saves more lives than any philanthropy can. It’s a rounding error in the federal budget, and one of the best things we do as a country. To see it destroyed overnight by one unelected man is an unmitigated horror.
wait ah
oh shit
A wave of tuberculosis cases hitting the Kansas City, Kansas, metro area has caused dozens of illnesses and at least two deaths, according to the state health department. Cases related to the outbreak were first reported in January 2024, and there were two reported TB deaths last year associated with this outbreak, Jill Bronaugh, a spokesperson for the Kansas Department of Health and Environment, said Tuesday. “This outbreak is still ongoing, which means that there could be more cases,” Bronaugh said in an email. “We are working with and following the guidance of the CDC.” As of Friday, there have been at least 67 people treated for confirmed active TB infections in the outbreak, and there have been 79 confirmed latent cases, in which TB is detected in the body but it’s not causing disease and making people sick.
oh fuck
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
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Barbie Hsu died of pneumonia triggered by flu contracted in Japan, her younger sister Dee Hsu said in a statement. Hsu began a pop music group as a teenager before moving into acting, gaining fame across Asia with 2001 series Meteor Garden. Social media users across Taiwan and China paid tribute to her.
https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/panic-grips-japan-as-deadly-flu-outbreak-rages-a-warning-for-travellers/
3rd February 2025 – (Tokyo) A nationwide influenza outbreak of staggering magnitude has brought this island nation to its knees, shattering all recorded case data and leaving a wake of overwhelmed hospitals, scarce medical supplies, and tragically, fatalities. The untimely death of Taiwanese actress Barbie Hsu from flu complications at just 48 years old highlights the severity of the virus’s impact.
The numbers out of Japan are nothing short of astonishing. During the final week of December 2024, the country logged over 317,000 new influenza cases – a record-shattering total more than triple the previous year’s tally for the same period. The average of 64 cases per medical institution obliterated the previous high-water mark and saw warning levels breached in a staggering 43 of Japan’s 47 prefectures. Certain regions like Oita reeled under a crushing 104 cases per institution.
entertainment
Bugger.
nah
c’m‘on
Mr Farmer said it was an unusual situation. “On rare occasions you do get reservoirs that are compromised,” he said. “You remove it, chlorinate and it’s okay.”
get outta here nobody wants those dirty CHEMICALS in their raw water it’s best if you take it straight like raw milk
SCIENCE said:
yeah well who cares anyway westerners don’t get tuberculosis
We worked for months with USAID to build an $85,000,000 project to end TB in two regions of the Philippines.
The project is funded by private money, the Philippine government, and matching USAID funds.
It could provide a blueprint for eliminating TB worldwide—except it’s…not happening.
USAID matters. I’ve often disagreed with their strategy and choices, but their work saves more lives than any philanthropy can. It’s a rounding error in the federal budget, and one of the best things we do as a country. To see it destroyed overnight by one unelected man is an unmitigated horror.wait ah
Two dead, dozens sickened in Kansas tuberculosis outbreak By Jacqueline Howard, CNN 4 minute read Updated 6:46 PM EST, Tue January 28, 2025
oh shit
A wave of tuberculosis cases hitting the Kansas City, Kansas, metro area has caused dozens of illnesses and at least two deaths, according to the state health department. Cases related to the outbreak were first reported in January 2024, and there were two reported TB deaths last year associated with this outbreak, Jill Bronaugh, a spokesperson for the Kansas Department of Health and Environment, said Tuesday. “This outbreak is still ongoing, which means that there could be more cases,” Bronaugh said in an email. “We are working with and following the guidance of the CDC.” As of Friday, there have been at least 67 people treated for confirmed active TB infections in the outbreak, and there have been 79 confirmed latent cases, in which TB is detected in the body but it’s not causing disease and making people sick.
oh fuck
LOL
Totally Not Captured Just Ah Wait What Oh Yeah Privileged
LOL
guess actually preventing the problem in the first place would
There are concerns though that the units, at about $6,000 each, may be too costly for small-scale beekeepers. “They’re made in Austria and they are a bit large so they are costly to bring to Australia,” Ms Martin said. The pair also acknowledged that large-scale producers may see the process of treating each brood frame as too time-consuming. Depending on the size of the unit, 10 to 20 frames are treated at a time for two hours. But Ms Martin said treatments currently available were also costing beekeepers. “Some of the treatments, you’re not supposed to have any honey and with many of the treatments you’re meant to throw out any frames that are tainted from the chemicals,” she said. “So when you count all of those costs, there are labour and costs involved with any varroa treatment.”
have been more effective and cheaper but yeah we know, freedom, nice
Michael V said:
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mild
Barbie Hsu died of pneumonia triggered by flu contracted in Japan, her younger sister Dee Hsu said in a statement. Hsu began a pop music group as a teenager before moving into acting, gaining fame across Asia with 2001 series Meteor Garden. Social media users across Taiwan and China paid tribute to her.
This could end up being a pretty hot thread this year
we’re happy for it to undergo fission if required
https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/panic-grips-japan-as-deadly-flu-outbreak-rages-a-warning-for-travellers/
3rd February 2025 – (Tokyo) A nationwide influenza outbreak of staggering magnitude has brought this island nation to its knees, shattering all recorded case data and leaving a wake of overwhelmed hospitals, scarce medical supplies, and tragically, fatalities. The untimely death of Taiwanese actress Barbie Hsu from flu complications at just 48 years old highlights the severity of the virus’s impact.
The numbers out of Japan are nothing short of astonishing. During the final week of December 2024, the country logged over 317,000 new influenza cases – a record-shattering total more than triple the previous year’s tally for the same period. The average of 64 cases per medical institution obliterated the previous high-water mark and saw warning levels breached in a staggering 43 of Japan’s 47 prefectures. Certain regions like Oita reeled under a crushing 104 cases per institution.
entertainment
Bugger.
LOL
sorry we mean
https://fox5sandiego.com/news/health/three-teenagers-die-from-flu-in-san-diego-county/
ah fuck
Three teenagers die from flu in San Diego County
by: Rhea Caoile
Posted: Feb 6, 2025 / 03:43 PM PST
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https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2025-02-07/h5n1-bird-flu-found-in-san-mateo-county-pet-cat
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- Scientists found that a pet cat in San Mateo County died of complications related to H5N1 bird flu.
- The virus was also discovered in a backyard poultry flock in Redwood City.
- Meanwhile, the CDC published data showing that the disease can be transmitted from cats to humans — but those data were removed within minutes of their initial publication.
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2025-02-07/h5n1-bird-flu-found-in-san-mateo-county-pet-cat
Who removed or ordered the removal?
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
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- Scientists found that a pet cat in San Mateo County died of complications related to H5N1 bird flu.
- The virus was also discovered in a backyard poultry flock in Redwood City.
- Meanwhile, the CDC published data showing that the disease can be transmitted from cats to humans — but those data were removed within minutes of their initial publication.
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2025-02-07/h5n1-bird-flu-found-in-san-mateo-county-pet-cat
Who removed or ordered the removal?
allegedly it was because the executive told them to get rid of everything
yousr good news for the day
Gary Fuller
Fri 7 Feb 2025 17.00 AEDT
Bradford’s clean air zone has reduced air pollution and saved the health service about £30,700 a month in its first year, a study has found.
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- Scientists found that a pet cat in San Mateo County died of complications related to H5N1 bird flu.
- The virus was also discovered in a backyard poultry flock in Redwood City.
- Meanwhile, the CDC published data showing that the disease can be transmitted from cats to humans — but those data were removed within minutes of their initial publication.
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2025-02-07/h5n1-bird-flu-found-in-san-mateo-county-pet-cat
Who removed or ordered the removal?
allegedly it was because the executive told them to get rid of everything
OK. Ta.
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Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/panic-grips-japan-as-deadly-flu-outbreak-rages-a-warning-for-travellers/
3rd February 2025 – (Tokyo) A nationwide influenza outbreak of staggering magnitude has brought this island nation to its knees, shattering all recorded case data and leaving a wake of overwhelmed hospitals, scarce medical supplies, and tragically, fatalities. The untimely death of Taiwanese actress Barbie Hsu from flu complications at just 48 years old highlights the severity of the virus’s impact.
The numbers out of Japan are nothing short of astonishing. During the final week of December 2024, the country logged over 317,000 new influenza cases – a record-shattering total more than triple the previous year’s tally for the same period. The average of 64 cases per medical institution obliterated the previous high-water mark and saw warning levels breached in a staggering 43 of Japan’s 47 prefectures. Certain regions like Oita reeled under a crushing 104 cases per institution.
entertainment
Bugger.
LOL
sorry we mean
https://fox5sandiego.com/news/health/three-teenagers-die-from-flu-in-san-diego-county/
ah fuck
Three teenagers die from flu in San Diego County
by: Rhea Caoile
Posted: Feb 6, 2025 / 03:43 PM PST
beautiful
well that’s all right, there are no camels in England so fine
SCIENCE said:
well that’s all right, there are no camels in England so fine
FTL!
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:
well that’s all right, there are no camels in England so fine
FTL!
good point but anyway
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-us-is-not-ready-for-bird-flu-in-humans/
LOL
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:
well that’s all right, there are no camels in England so fine
FTL!
good point but anyway
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-us-is-not-ready-for-bird-flu-in-humans/
LOL
Is anyone?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
FTL!
good point but anyway
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-us-is-not-ready-for-bird-flu-in-humans/
LOL
Is anyone?
Yes. ASIANS = child abuse¡
As students return to school amidst a seasonal influenza peak following the Lunar New Year holiday, many are donning masks to protect themselves.
Concerns about increased infection risks in schools have been echoed by parents.
Student Julien shared his personal protective measures: “I will wear masks and wash my hands after each class.”
His mother, Chow, is worried about the flu season’s timing, saying that the school has yet to send reminders about flu precautions.
The Standard Channel
More>>“That’s why I asked my son to wear masks,” she said.
Another parent, Li, said receiving a notice from the school advising parents to prepare for potential illness in their children during this flu season.
She remains confident in the school’s protective measures, saying that people are likely to be more vigilant post-pandemic.
The Department of Health recently reported around 240 severe cases and deaths linked to the flu since January, with 90 percent of those affected being patients aged 65 and older.
The department said that influenza entered its peak season starting February 5, primarily driven by the H1 virus.
Union Hospital Terre Haute sets up tent near ER as respiratory cases surge
By Chris Essex Feb 3, 2025 Updated Feb 3, 2025
TERRE HAUTE, Ind.(WTHI) – Respiratory illness is rising in the Wabash Valley, and one hospital is working to streamline the testing and treatment process. On Monday, Union Health said it set up its portable medical tent near Union Hospital Terre Haute’s emergency room. Health officials said the tent will be used to test or treat patients. Union Health advises people to visit a primary care provider or urgent care clinic instead of the emergency room if possible. Officials say you should go to the ER if you have severe symptoms, especially if the patient is high-risk or a child. Respiratory cases are surging in the Wabash Valley. Union Health says steps to avoid getting sick include wearing a mask and washing your hands often.
SCIENCE said:
Union Hospital Terre Haute sets up tent near ER as respiratory cases surge
By Chris Essex Feb 3, 2025 Updated Feb 3, 2025
TERRE HAUTE, Ind.(WTHI) – Respiratory illness is rising in the Wabash Valley, and one hospital is working to streamline the testing and treatment process. On Monday, Union Health said it set up its portable medical tent near Union Hospital Terre Haute’s emergency room. Health officials said the tent will be used to test or treat patients. Union Health advises people to visit a primary care provider or urgent care clinic instead of the emergency room if possible. Officials say you should go to the ER if you have severe symptoms, especially if the patient is high-risk or a child. Respiratory cases are surging in the Wabash Valley. Union Health says steps to avoid getting sick include wearing a mask and washing your hands often.
Bird flu?
kii said:
so apart from those peeps making fun of victims where are we(0,1,1) all at the moment
SCIENCE said:
kii said:
so apart from those peeps making fun of victims where are we(0,1,1) all at the moment
Thanks for putting this in the correct thread. I couldn’t be bothered looking for it.
kii said:
SCIENCE said:
kii said:
so apart from those peeps making fun of victims where are we(0,1,1) all at the moment
Thanks for putting this in the correct thread. I couldn’t be bothered looking for it.
no worries all threads are correct and they are right in front of us so we can’t be bothered putting things in the wrong threads
kii said:
SCIENCE said:kii said:
so apart from those peeps making fun of victims where are we(0,1,1) all at the moment
Thanks for putting this in the correct thread. I couldn’t be bothered looking for it.
(looks directly at camera)
(makes this face)
:-/
dv said:
kii said:
SCIENCE said:so apart from those peeps making fun of victims where are we(0,1,1) all at the moment
Thanks for putting this in the correct thread. I couldn’t be bothered looking for it.
(looks directly at camera)
(makes this face):-/
kii said:
dv said:
kii said:Thanks for putting this in the correct thread. I couldn’t be bothered looking for it.
(looks directly at camera)
(makes this face):-/
My point is you don’t need to look. It’s on the Index above.
dv said:
kii said:
dv said:(looks directly at camera)
(makes this face):-/
My point is you don’t need to look. It’s on the Index above.
It’s labeled “Covid”.
I don’t have time to figure out your labels, too busy watching raccoon, dog, kitten and cat videos to placate my disturbed brain.
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-18/japanese-encephalitis-virus-queensland-piggeries/104949206
don’t worry it’s generally mild
wait
what happened
isn’t it back to normal
urgently
¿
good, good
we know yous all love these
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adg2248
SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral fusogens cause neuronal and glial fusion that compromises neuronal activity
SCIENCE said:
good, good
and nice
In short: Avian influenza has been found at a third property at Euroa. It follows the detection of the H7N8 strain at two other poultry farms in Victoria’s north last week.
What’s next? The total number of birds euthanased across all three properties will rise to 500,000.
Divine Angel said:
Another coronavirus has been discovered in bats in Wuhan.
https://www.newsweek.com/new-coronavirus-bat-chinese-lab-2034232
thanks but this is how
New Coronavirus Discovered in Chinese Bats Sparks Alarm
yous know they’re lying: this can’t possibly be alarming because natural coronaviruses are good for people, they make flock immunity and pay off immunity debt you didn’t even know you had, it’s CHINA laboratory manufactured viruses which are bad for you and we know that because that’s what SARACAIDS-CoV is
And nothing matters more to people than their health.
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-24/medicare-me-too-election-campaign-karvelas/100706476
funny strange, intelligence agencies tell us it’s bioweapons, SCIENCE rags claim it’s nature
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00426-3
obviously a cover up
Inside the Bungled Bird Flu Response, Where Profits Collide With Public Health
When dairy cows in Texas began falling ill with H5N1, alarmed veterinarians expected a fierce response to contain an outbreak with pandemic-sparking potential. Then politics—and, critics say, a key agency’s mandate to protect dairy-industry revenues—intervened.
he US Department of Agriculture’s headquarters are situated on a tony stretch of DC real estate, a world away from the nation’s farms. So when something goes seriously wrong on America’s plains and pastures, something that could threaten animal safety or food production, USDA officials rely on rural veterinarians to sound the alarm.
Those vets report findings to state veterinarians, whose doors and inboxes are always open. They even post their cell phone numbers online. The state veterinarians, in turn, utilize a network of diagnostic laboratories approved by the USDA, chief among them the National Veterinary Services Laboratories (NVSL) in Ames, Iowa.
This close-knit network, with built-in redundancies, is primed to tackle the awful and unexpected, whether it’s foot-and-mouth disease, swine fever, or an act of agroterrorism. There’s little standing on ceremony, and state veterinarians generally feel free to reach out directly to leading USDA officials. “If we want information, we go up the chain to the top,” says Beth Thompson, South Dakota’s state veterinarian.
H5N1 Safety Guidelines for Individuals
H5N1 avian influenza is a highly infectious virus that affects wild birds, chickens, and other farm birds. In some cases, it has also been found in mammals, including humans. The virus has spread globally, but in the United States, cattle have been infected, and high levels of H5N1 have been detected in milk collected from farms in certain regions. Farmworkers, veterinarians, and other individuals have also been infected. This guidance is designed to help individuals reduce their risk of infection. While most recommendations apply globally, dairy-specific precautions are tailored to the U.S.
To protect yourself and your household, follow these essential precautions:
Outdoors: Avoid Birds and Contaminated Areas (Global)
Stay Away from Wild Birds and Droppings:
Avoid areas where wild birds congregate, such as parks, riverbanks, and lakes, to reduce exposure to droppings.
Handle Dead Birds Safely:
If you encounter sick or dead birds, wear gloves, masks and protective clothing. Report the situation to local wildlife or health authorities. Dispose of gloves and masks safely after use.
Protect Your Home:
Designate outdoor shoes and disinfect them before entering your home. Alternatively, take off shoes before entering to prevent contaminants from being brought indoors.
Safe Handling and Consumption of Food
Meat and Eggs (Global):
Keep raw poultry and eggs separate from other foods during preparation.
Use separate utensils and cutting boards for raw and cooked foods.
Cook poultry and meat to an internal temperature of at least 165°F (74°C).
Cook eggs until both the yolk and white are firm. Avoid consuming raw or undercooked eggs.
Dairy Products (U.S.):
Opt for Ultrapasteurized Milk:
Due to concerns about the potential survival of H5N1 virus with standard pasteurization, choose ultrapasteurized milk whenever possible. This method is highly effective at eliminating pathogens and is the safest option for dairy consumption in affected areas.
Standard Pasteurization (HTST) Milk:
Milk processed with standard pasteurization (high-temperature short-time, HTST) significantly reduces H5N1 concentrations but may not eliminate the virus entirely. HTST still carries a risk in areas where H5N1 is present. Whenever possible, prioritize ultrapasteurized milk or home pasteurization for added safety.
Home Pasteurization for Milk, Cream, and Other Dairy Products:
If ultrapasteurized milk is unavailable, perform home pasteurization to ensure safe dairy products: heat milk, cream, or other dairy products to above 165°F (74°C) and maintain this temperature for a few minutes, after it has reached this temperature. For a half-gallon of milk, the entire process, including heating and holding time, takes roughly 20 minutes.
Alternatively, heat milk in a pot until small bubbles form at the edges (just before boiling), then turn off the heat.
Avoid Unpasteurized Dairy Products:
Unpasteurized milk and dairy products, such as cream, butter, or cheese, pose the greatest risk of H5N1 contamination. Additionally, unpasteurized milk is associated with other risks, including bacterial infections like Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria. These products should be avoided entirely in areas with H5N1.
Handling Unpasteurized Dairy Products Carefully:
If unpasteurized dairy must be used, meticulous care is required. Home pasteurization must ensure the milk or cream reaches 165°F (74°C) and is held at this temperature for a few minutes. Take great care in handling and storage to minimize contamination risks.
Practice Good Hygiene (Global)
In addition to handling food safely, maintaining good hygiene is critical to reducing risk:
Wash your hands thoroughly with soap and water after handling birds, eggs, meat, or contaminated surfaces.
Use alcohol-based hand sanitizer if soap and water are unavailable.
Stay Informed (Global)
Follow local updates on H5N1 outbreaks and public health guidance.
Consider getting the seasonal flu vaccine to reduce the risk of coinfection, which can complicate diagnosis and treatment.
By following these guidelines, you can reduce your risk of H5N1 exposure and help safeguard your health and your community.
https://whn.global/guidelines/h5n1-safety-guidelines-for-individuals/
kii said:
:)
Another five people from around Cairns have died from melioidosis, bringing the death toll in Queensland’s north to 12. Cairns and Townsville have recorded 53 and 34 cases, respectively, since the start of the year.
good, good, paying off that immunity debt, there should be flock immunity pretty quick smart yeah
¡ save the world
Avian influenza has been detected at a fourth poultry farm at Euroa in Victoria’s north east. The new detection of H7N8 bird flu is linked to the ongoing outbreak at Kinross Farms, a major egg producer that supplies supermarkets. The development comes as egg supplies struggle to meet demand after Australia’s largest-ever avian influenza outbreak in 2024. Kinross Farms managing director Philip Szepe said the free-range farm has 90,000 birds that will be killed to control the spread of the disease at the company’s final egg-laying property in the region.
buy cage eggs ¡
SCIENCE said:
¡ save the world
Avian influenza has been detected at a fourth poultry farm at Euroa in Victoria’s north east. The new detection of H7N8 bird flu is linked to the ongoing outbreak at Kinross Farms, a major egg producer that supplies supermarkets. The development comes as egg supplies struggle to meet demand after Australia’s largest-ever avian influenza outbreak in 2024. Kinross Farms managing director Philip Szepe said the free-range farm has 90,000 birds that will be killed to control the spread of the disease at the company’s final egg-laying property in the region.
buy cage eggs ¡
Overall, less suffering, so it seems.
We’ll have to beg for powdered egg.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-25/mysterious-illness-kills-over-50-people-in-congo/104981076
A new one?
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-25/mysterious-illness-kills-over-50-people-in-congo/104981076A new one?
Who know as yet. Maybe.
“There have long been concerns about diseases jumping from animals to humans in places where wild animals are popularly eaten, the Associated Press reports.”
Not popularly eaten at all – eaten because people are hungry.
Grrrr @ AP.
Amid massive staff cuts at the CDC, I’m expecting Yersinia pestis to have a good four years
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-25/mysterious-illness-kills-over-50-people-in-congo/104981076A new one?
Who know as yet. Maybe.
“There have long been concerns about diseases jumping from animals to humans in places where wild animals are popularly eaten, the Associated Press reports.”
Not popularly eaten at all – eaten because people are hungry.
Grrrr @ AP.
Yes. It is because they are hungry. Malnourished and all.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-25/mysterious-illness-kills-over-50-people-in-congo/104981076
A new one?
Who know as yet. Maybe.
“There have long been concerns about diseases jumping from animals to humans in places where wild animals are popularly eaten, the Associated Press reports.”
Not popularly eaten at all – eaten because people are hungry.
Grrrr @ AP.
oh c’m‘on everyone knows that all plagues begin in CHINA laboratories, don’t give us this jumping from animals bullshit
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-25/mysterious-illness-kills-over-50-people-in-congo/104981076A new one?
Who know as yet. Maybe.
“There have long been concerns about diseases jumping from animals to humans in places where wild animals are popularly eaten, the Associated Press reports.”
Not popularly eaten at all – eaten because people are hungry.
Grrrr @ AP.
Yes. It is because they are hungry. Malnourished and all.
There’s also a concern that leopards could carry the disease they pick up from eating the faces.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Who know as yet. Maybe.
“There have long been concerns about diseases jumping from animals to humans in places where wild animals are popularly eaten, the Associated Press reports.”
Not popularly eaten at all – eaten because people are hungry.
Grrrr @ AP.
Yes. It is because they are hungry. Malnourished and all.
There’s also a concern that leopards could carry the disease they pick up from eating the faces.
Lololol 😆
First laugh of the day.
dv said:
Amid massive staff cuts at the CDC, I’m expecting Yersinia pestis to have a good four years
And many other nasty little bugs – measles for example.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-25/mysterious-illness-kills-over-50-people-in-congo/104981076
A new one?
Who know as yet. Maybe.
“There have long been concerns about diseases jumping from animals to humans in places where wild animals are popularly eaten, the Associated Press reports.”
Not popularly eaten at all – eaten because people are hungry.
Grrrr @ AP.
oh c’m‘on everyone knows that all plagues begin in CHINA laboratories, don’t give us this jumping from animals bullshit
Not China. Starts with “C”. In Sub-Saharan Africa.
Bird flu shots now at risk, per Bloomberg:
—-
America is in the midst of a record-breaking bird flu outbreak that’s affected dozens of cattle herds along with poultry flocks nationwide. While human cases have been rare, the virus has caused deaths in the past, and experts are concerned it could become more transmissible and dangerous. Some recent developments do not bode well.
But on Wednesday, it was revealed that the Trump administration has decided to reevaluate a $590 million contract for bird flu shots the Biden administration awarded to Moderna, known for its highly successful Covid-19 shot. Moderna said last month it was gearing up for a big, final-stage trial of its new vaccine, having successfully completed an early-stage trial last year. But without funding, that trial may not happen.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., now President Donald Trump’s top health official, has been a vaccine skeptic and openly criticized Covid-19 shots. In 2021, during the height of the pandemic, Kennedy called them “the deadliest vaccine ever made.” According to the US National Institutes of Health, which now answers to Kennedy, Covid vaccines saved tens of millions of lives during the pandemic.
kii said:
Bird flu shots now at risk, per Bloomberg:
—-
America is in the midst of a record-breaking bird flu outbreak that’s affected dozens of cattle herds along with poultry flocks nationwide. While human cases have been rare, the virus has caused deaths in the past, and experts are concerned it could become more transmissible and dangerous. Some recent developments do not bode well.
But on Wednesday, it was revealed that the Trump administration has decided to reevaluate a $590 million contract for bird flu shots the Biden administration awarded to Moderna, known for its highly successful Covid-19 shot. Moderna said last month it was gearing up for a big, final-stage trial of its new vaccine, having successfully completed an early-stage trial last year. But without funding, that trial may not happen.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., now President Donald Trump’s top health official, has been a vaccine skeptic and openly criticized Covid-19 shots. In 2021, during the height of the pandemic, Kennedy called them “the deadliest vaccine ever made.” According to the US National Institutes of Health, which now answers to Kennedy, Covid vaccines saved tens of millions of lives during the pandemic.
Nice¡
SCIENCE said:
kii said:
Bird flu shots now at risk, per Bloomberg:
—-
America is in the midst of a record-breaking bird flu outbreak that’s affected dozens of cattle herds along with poultry flocks nationwide. While human cases have been rare, the virus has caused deaths in the past, and experts are concerned it could become more transmissible and dangerous. Some recent developments do not bode well.
But on Wednesday, it was revealed that the Trump administration has decided to reevaluate a $590 million contract for bird flu shots the Biden administration awarded to Moderna, known for its highly successful Covid-19 shot. Moderna said last month it was gearing up for a big, final-stage trial of its new vaccine, having successfully completed an early-stage trial last year. But without funding, that trial may not happen.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., now President Donald Trump’s top health official, has been a vaccine skeptic and openly criticized Covid-19 shots. In 2021, during the height of the pandemic, Kennedy called them “the deadliest vaccine ever made.” According to the US National Institutes of Health, which now answers to Kennedy, Covid vaccines saved tens of millions of lives during the pandemic.
Nice¡
/TIC (Sorry, you left that off.)
No not really.
Look, You’re Only Off The Hook If It’s More Than 5555 Days After The Jab
ahahahahahaha he’s not blaming him
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
That never worked with measles in the past so what causes him to believe it will miraculously do something different now? Must be the brain worms.
sure it did
LOL
Kentucky confirms measles exposure at Planet Fitness in Frankfort. An infected adult who recently traveled to a measles outbreak area visited the gym while contagious.
LOL
SCIENCE said:
Kentucky confirms measles exposure at Planet Fitness in Frankfort. An infected adult who recently traveled to a measles outbreak area visited the gym while contagious.
LOL
and we now have one in Victoria.
SCIENCE said:
Kentucky confirms measles exposure at Planet Fitness in Frankfort. An infected adult who recently traveled to a measles outbreak area visited the gym while contagious.
LOL
And New Jersey.
Five years ago I was with mr kii at a local ER, he was eventually sent by ambulance to a hospital in El Paso. The start of the end with his lung cancer.
While we waited for the ambulance I kept thinking about the recent news about COVID-19. I knew everything was about to go to shit with trump in charge, and my husband was being sent to a hospital 50 miles away.
All the measles outbreak news has reminded me that I had a booster back in 2006 as part of my green card application. I know the paperwork is in that pile over on the dining table.
A local online friend has not been able to source a booster shot in this town. She’s 49.
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-28/long-term-health-impacts-covid-19-hospitalisation/104994058
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
The threat of JEV keeps me inside at that hour.
A man died from visiting our area.
why, it’s a mostly mild disease, you’ll be fine
Heh.
it’s true
Most JEV infections are mild (fever and headache) or without apparent symptoms, but approximately 1 in 250 infections results in severe clinical illness. The incubation period is 4–14 days. In children, gastrointestinal pain and vomiting may be the dominant initial symptoms. JE primarily affects children. Most adults in endemic countries have natural immunity after childhood infection, but individuals of any age may be affected.
let it rip
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
why, it’s a mostly mild disease, you’ll be fine
Heh.
it’s true
Most JEV infections are mild (fever and headache) or without apparent symptoms, but approximately 1 in 250 infections results in severe clinical illness. The incubation period is 4–14 days. In children, gastrointestinal pain and vomiting may be the dominant initial symptoms. JE primarily affects children. Most adults in endemic countries have natural immunity after childhood infection, but individuals of any age may be affected.
let it rip
I’ve been vaccinated. Probably need a booster, though.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Heh.
it’s true
Most JEV infections are mild (fever and headache) or without apparent symptoms, but approximately 1 in 250 infections results in severe clinical illness. The incubation period is 4–14 days. In children, gastrointestinal pain and vomiting may be the dominant initial symptoms. JE primarily affects children. Most adults in endemic countries have natural immunity after childhood infection, but individuals of any age may be affected.
let it rip
I’ve been vaccinated. Probably need a booster, though.
exactly, a natural immunity debt payoff booster is perfect
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
why, it’s a mostly mild disease, you’ll be fine
Heh.
it’s true
Most JEV infections are mild (fever and headache) or without apparent symptoms, but approximately 1 in 250 infections results in severe clinical illness. The incubation period is 4–14 days. In children, gastrointestinal pain and vomiting may be the dominant initial symptoms. JE primarily affects children. Most adults in endemic countries have natural immunity after childhood infection, but individuals of any age may be affected.
let it rip
My doctor’s advice is that at first, they were keeping the vaccine only for children. Because of the above and that the vaccine is expensive.
However, since it has been recorded here twice, they now allow it for those who are immuno-compromised.
LOL
It seems that RFK Jr is now suggesting vaccinations are good.
“It was was the fuck around of times, it was the find out of times.”
SCIENCE said:
we know yous all love these
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adg2248
SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral fusogens cause neuronal and glial fusion that compromises neuronal activity
Bloody!
That’s bad. Like Badly Bad.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
we know yous all love these
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adg2248
SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral fusogens cause neuronal and glial fusion that compromises neuronal activity
Bloody!
That’s bad. Like Badly Bad.
Reading back over that we note it was 2023 so we guess nobody really cared but yeah we don’t note that it was disproven either…
LOL these NZ crazies just can’t move on like the rest of the world
LOL
SCIENCE said:
LOL
aha
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-04/melioidosis-death-toll-rises-in-queensland/105009772
The death toll in Queensland has risen to 16 amid the unprecedented increase in infections.
Growing number of long covid patients declared unfit for work
The number of people in the Netherlands declared partially or fully unfit for work due to long Covid has risen sharply in recent years. According to figures from the Employee Insurance Agency (UWV), more than 12,000 people have been granted a WIA disability benefit after being ill for more than two years. That figure stood at just 3,000 two years ago.
Patient organizations warn that the real number is much higher. PostCovid NL estimates that 90,000 people in the Netherlands suffer from severe long Covid symptoms. Many of them are struggling to return to work but do not qualify for disability benefits.
https://nltimes.nl/2025/03/03/growing-number-long-covid-patients-declared-unfit-work
interesting
The study, published in Nature, reveals that rifaximin use is accelerating resistance to daptomycin—one of the last remaining effective antibiotics against VRE infections.
“Rifaximin prophylaxis causes resistance to the last-resort antibiotic daptomycin” by Adrianna M. Turner, Lucy Li, Ian R. Monk, Jean Y. H. Lee, Danielle J. Ingle, Stephanie Portelli, Norelle L. Sherry, Nicole Isles, Torsten Seemann, Liam K. Sharkey, Calum J. Walsh, Gavin E. Reid, Shuai Nie, Bart A. Eijkelkamp, Natasha E. Holmes, Brennan Collis, Sara Vogrin, Andreas Hiergeist, Daniela Weber, Andre Gessner, Ernst Holler, David B. Ascher, Sebastian Duchene, Nichollas E. Scott, Timothy P. Stinear, Jason C. Kwong, Claire L. Gorrie, Benjamin P. Howden and Glen P. Carter, 23 October 2024, Nature.
DOI: 10.1038/s41586-024-08095-4
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bastards.
Hey look we did all right with SARACAIDS-CoV and varroa mites and everything so why not just let this rip as well fucking just throw a measles party already yeah that should sort it.
LOL
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/543885/long-covid-warning-silent-organ-damage-is-a-real-problem
communist New Zealand being all alarmist scaremonger again
Public health experts are urging the government to protect people from Long Covid, which they say could have already affected a quarter of a million New Zealanders. A new Public Health Communication Centre briefing out on Thursday says the government must develop and implement a Long Covid strategy. Massey University public health research Professor John Potter said the risk of Long Covid after an Omicron infection remained about 10 percent, and sufferers could be mildly impaired to severely disabled. The briefing also says Long Covid can also lead to a ‘substantially increased’ risk of sudden death and ‘silent’ damage to cells and organs which can lead to later illness. “Certainly the silent organ damage is a real problem, we think, for future development of disease. When you’re young and healthy, you can take a certain amount of damage to the system without it showing up.
https://www.phcc.org.nz/briefing/long-covid-update-threat-continues-demand-strong-response
SCIENCE said:
kii said:
Hackman’s wife, Betsy Arakawa, died from hantavirus pulmonary syndrome.
Bet that’ll get the conspiracy nuts frothing.
seminatural deaths are such a blessing these days
Actor Gene Hackman died of heart disease and suffered from advanced Alzheimer’s disease at the time of his death late last month. Authorities said his wife Betsy Arakawa died of a rare virus a full week before Hackman. The Santa Fe medical examiner said it was “possible” Hackman was unaware of his wife’s death.
anyway P2 masks would have prevented this but maybe they shouldn’t have because it’s important to burn off the dry tinder
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Hackman’s wife, Betsy Arakawa, died from hantavirus pulmonary syndrome.
Bet that’ll get the conspiracy nuts frothing.
seminatural deaths are such a blessing these days
Actor Gene Hackman died of heart disease and suffered from advanced Alzheimer’s disease at the time of his death late last month. Authorities said his wife Betsy Arakawa died of a rare virus a full week before Hackman. The Santa Fe medical examiner said it was “possible” Hackman was unaware of his wife’s death.
anyway P2 masks would have prevented this but maybe they shouldn’t have because it’s important to burn off the dry tinder
From memory, New Mexico usually has a few cases of hantavirus eah year.
When I have had people in to clean out my storage room/laundry I always make them wear masks. The room is part of the new addition, but was built to allow a lot a ventilation. There are meshed vents and the “stable door” allows critters inside. All rustic and stuff.
We had a pack rat in the metal stacks ages ago, mr kii wanted to trap it. When I saw its little beady eyes peeping out of a piece of pipe I wanted to put an apron on it and call her Miss Butters.
From Forbes…
CDC Wants To Revisit Debunked Theories Of Links Between Vaccines And Autism
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention intend to do a large study to examine a possible connection between autism and childhood vaccines, in spite of there being a substantial body of research showing that vaccines and autism are not linked. By revisiting debunked theories that connect autism to the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine, this could undermine the public’s confidence and lead to further vaccine hesitancy.
More than a quarter century ago, s small study by a (former) gastroenterologist Andrew Wakefield and colleagues suggested a link between the MMR vaccine —used to protect children from a variety of serious or potentially fatal diseases—and autism spectrum disorder, a condition related to abnormal brain development that causes problems in social interaction and communication.
Wakefield et al.’s paper in The Lancet described 12 children who had intestinal abnormalities after receiving the MMR vaccination. For eight of the 12 children, parents linked the onset of behavioral symptoms to the vaccine. Wakefield and co-authors hypothesized that intestinal inflammation after the MMR vaccine released gut proteins that eventually migrated to the brain, causing damage that was reflected in autism symptoms.
The study was reviewed further and retracted. It was a report of eight children who had developed signs and symptoms of autism within a month of receiving the MMR vaccine. With such a small sample and no control group there was no way of knowing whether autism was occurring at a level greater than would be expected by chance alone.
In addition to the retraction, Wakefield’s medical license was revoked due to falsified information.
Since then, numerous peer-reviewed studies have debunked a connection between autism and the MMR vaccine. A group of London-based researchers in 1999 found no epidemiological evidence for a causal association between autism and the MMR vaccine. And that conclusion has played out repeatedly in studies published in subsequent years. Perhaps the largest of its kind was a retrospective analysis that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2002. It involved 537,000 Danish children and showed the risk of autism diagnosis was similar between those who received the MMR vaccine and those who did not. Additionally, the Journal of the American Medical Association published a study in 2015 that included an analysis of the health records of more than 95,000 children. Roughly 2,000 of those children were classified as at risk for autism because they had a sibling already diagnosed with autism. The study confirmed that the MMR vaccine did not increase the risk for autism spectrum disorder.
The existence of all this evidence raises the question why the CDC now wants to carry out another study. Asked for comment, the CDC did not immediately reply. But perhaps we can surmise why by assessing the views of the Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and the CDC director nominee, David Weldon, both of whom have repeatedly raised questions about the safety of MMR vaccines. If confirmed, Weldon would reinforce the vaccine-skeptic agenda that RFK Jr. is likely to pursue.
Weldon stirred controversy when he insinuated a link between the MMR shot and autism, citing the debunked theory put forward by Wakefield.
Such vaccine-skeptic views are a cause for concern in the public health community, the Guardian says. The messaging alone can fuel an uptick in childhood vaccine hesitancy. To illustrate, in the United Kingdom vaccinations took a considerable dip in the early 2000s after Wakefield’ false claims of a link between the MMR shot and autism were posted in the media.
Long after his work was exposed as fraudulent, Wakefield left a legacy of harm that persists even today, Vaccine hesitancy is rising again in the United States. Faltering vaccine coverage has contributed to the current outbreak in Texas and New Mexico.
Mass vaccination programs with single or combination shots began in the 1960s and quickly suppressed the spread of measles in most developed countries, including the U.S. which had declared measles eradicated in 2000. Moreover, the measles vaccine is “sterilizing,” which means it not only prevents illness, but also transmission. The World Health Organization estimates that worldwide immunization efforts targeting measles and other communicable diseases have saved at least 154 million lives over the past 50 years.
Ostensibly, Elon Musks’ Department of Government Efficiency aims to eliminate waste at agencies such as CDC. Cuts have already wreaked havoc at CDC and throughout other entities within HHS. Yet it would seem wasteful to have CDC spend money on a large study to prove something that has been demonstrated over and over again. Couldn’t these resources be used far more wisely elsewhere? Like, for instance, on studies to examine vaccine hesitancy and how to boost immunization coverage.
fuck we mean is this 1925 or something
Burn pits were used by the United States military to dispose of rubbish including chemicals, plastics, rubber, munitions and human and medical waste. Former US president Joe Biden has long speculated his son’s fatal brain cancer was caused by exposure to fumes from burn pits. Now there are concerns Australian soldiers have been affected, in a toxic legacy of those conflicts. “We never really talked about it, never really considered, I guess, the long-term health impacts. We just got on with the job,” he said.
how could any modern military not know that burning all kinds of arbitrary shit then breathing it in would be fucking risky shit, it’s like the idiocy of that engineered stone fresco fiasco, just wear a damn P2 mask
Brett Green, pictured with his wife Amber and their son, says its frustrating to know his cancer would be recognised as service-related in the US but not in Australia. (ABC News: Carl Saville)
ah well not to worry soon the DPRNA won’t be recognising any illness and then we’ll have equity equality equivalence whatever
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fuck we mean is this 1925 or something
Burn pits were used by the United States military to dispose of rubbish including chemicals, plastics, rubber, munitions and human and medical waste. Former US president Joe Biden has long speculated his son’s fatal brain cancer was caused by exposure to fumes from burn pits. Now there are concerns Australian soldiers have been affected, in a toxic legacy of those conflicts. “We never really talked about it, never really considered, I guess, the long-term health impacts. We just got on with the job,” he said.
how could any modern military not know that burning all kinds of arbitrary shit then breathing it in would be fucking risky shit, it’s like the idiocy of that engineered stone fresco fiasco, just wear a damn P2 mask
Brett Green, pictured with his wife Amber and their son, says its frustrating to know his cancer would be recognised as service-related in the US but not in Australia. (ABC News: Carl Saville)
ah well not to worry soon the DPRNA won’t be recognising any illness and then we’ll have equity equality equivalence whatever
low temperature inburneration inhales plenty that makes stronger, builds immunity, can’t have pansy soldiers worrying about some toxicity when a bigger job needs be done, too many antichemical pansies now, gets in the way of real soldiering, real men go down to the burnpit with a six pack, even a carton, light the fucker up and watch
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fuck we mean is this 1925 or something
Burn pits were used by the United States military to dispose of rubbish including chemicals, plastics, rubber, munitions and human and medical waste. Former US president Joe Biden has long speculated his son’s fatal brain cancer was caused by exposure to fumes from burn pits. Now there are concerns Australian soldiers have been affected, in a toxic legacy of those conflicts. “We never really talked about it, never really considered, I guess, the long-term health impacts. We just got on with the job,” he said.
how could any modern military not know that burning all kinds of arbitrary shit then breathing it in would be fucking risky shit, it’s like the idiocy of that engineered stone fresco fiasco, just wear a damn P2 mask
Brett Green, pictured with his wife Amber and their son, says its frustrating to know his cancer would be recognised as service-related in the US but not in Australia. (ABC News: Carl Saville)
ah well not to worry soon the DPRNA won’t be recognising any illness and then we’ll have equity equality equivalence whatever
low temperature inburneration inhales plenty that makes stronger, builds immunity, can’t have pansy soldiers worrying about some toxicity when a bigger job needs be done, too many antichemical pansies now, gets in the way of real soldiering, real men go down to the burnpit with a six pack, even a carton, light the fucker up and watch
you mean they’re too soft to even put on a respirator well deity damn what a bunch of damp sponges
LOL
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/09/upshot/covid-lockdown-five-year-charts.html
probably just raising awareness
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/09/upshot/covid-lockdown-five-year-charts.html
probably just raising awareness
Look like it soared after Trump’s first Presidency and has stayed soaring.
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/09/upshot/covid-lockdown-five-year-charts.html
probably just raising awareness
look at these idiots
how can they not know that the correct words are burning off the dry tinder slash culling the weak slash evolving humans
Next-generation, inhaled COVID-19 vaccine enters phase-2 clinical trial
Researchers at McMaster University have started a phase-2 clinical trial on a next-generation, inhaled COVID-19 vaccine.
The AeroVax study, supported by $8M in funding from the Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR), will test needle-free vaccines developed to provide protection from SARS-CoV-2.
Led by Fiona Smaill and Zhou Xing, members of the Michael G. DeGroote Institute for Infectious Disease Research (IIDR) at McMaster, the multi-centre trial will evaluate the new vaccine in a broad study group, while also confirming safety.
Findings from pre-clinical studies and the soon-to-be-published data from the phase-1 trial indicate that McMaster’s inhaled vaccine is more effective at inducing immune responses than traditional injected vaccines are, because it directly targets the lungs and upper airways — where the virus first enters the body.
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Next-generation, inhaled COVID-19 vaccine enters phase-2 clinical trialResearchers at McMaster University have started a phase-2 clinical trial on a next-generation, inhaled COVID-19 vaccine.
The AeroVax study, supported by $8M in funding from the Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR), will test needle-free vaccines developed to provide protection from SARS-CoV-2.
Led by Fiona Smaill and Zhou Xing, members of the Michael G. DeGroote Institute for Infectious Disease Research (IIDR) at McMaster, the multi-centre trial will evaluate the new vaccine in a broad study group, while also confirming safety.
Findings from pre-clinical studies and the soon-to-be-published data from the phase-1 trial indicate that McMaster’s inhaled vaccine is more effective at inducing immune responses than traditional injected vaccines are, because it directly targets the lungs and upper airways — where the virus first enters the body.
That sounds amazing!
Divine Angel said:
Spiny Norman said:
Next-generation, inhaled COVID-19 vaccine enters phase-2 clinical trialResearchers at McMaster University have started a phase-2 clinical trial on a next-generation, inhaled COVID-19 vaccine.
The AeroVax study, supported by $8M in funding from the Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR), will test needle-free vaccines developed to provide protection from SARS-CoV-2.
Led by Fiona Smaill and Zhou Xing, members of the Michael G. DeGroote Institute for Infectious Disease Research (IIDR) at McMaster, the multi-centre trial will evaluate the new vaccine in a broad study group, while also confirming safety.
Findings from pre-clinical studies and the soon-to-be-published data from the phase-1 trial indicate that McMaster’s inhaled vaccine is more effective at inducing immune responses than traditional injected vaccines are, because it directly targets the lungs and upper airways — where the virus first enters the body.
That sounds amazing!
And ASAP thanks!
Spiny Norman said:
Next-generation, inhaled COVID-19 vaccine enters phase-2 clinical trialResearchers at McMaster University have started a phase-2 clinical trial on a next-generation, inhaled COVID-19 vaccine.
The AeroVax study, supported by $8M in funding from the Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR), will test needle-free vaccines developed to provide protection from SARS-CoV-2.
Led by Fiona Smaill and Zhou Xing, members of the Michael G. DeGroote Institute for Infectious Disease Research (IIDR) at McMaster, the multi-centre trial will evaluate the new vaccine in a broad study group, while also confirming safety.
Findings from pre-clinical studies and the soon-to-be-published data from the phase-1 trial indicate that McMaster’s inhaled vaccine is more effective at inducing immune responses than traditional injected vaccines are, because it directly targets the lungs and upper airways — where the virus first enters the body.
Cool.
LOL
good luck everyone
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good luck everyone
The interview was done in a Steak and Shake fast food place. He was also promoting fries fried in beef tallow…
RFK Jr basically does an ad for fast food whilst telling people to get infected with measles and eat a more healthy diet.
The Trump administration is withdrawing the nomination of Dr. David Weldon, a former Florida congressman and anti-vaccine advocate, for director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The announcement came about an hour before Weldon was scheduled to testify Thursday before the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. A person familiar with the matter who spoke on condition of anonymity told The Associated Press that the administration pulled Weldon’s nomination once it became clear that he did not have the votes to advance. The committee later cancelled the hearing. Axios first reported the trouble facing Weldon’s nomination.
During his time in Congress from 1995-2009, Weldon expressed unfounded concerns that a mercury-based preservative in vaccines called thimerosal might be linked to autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders. Repeated research and scientific study have found no evidence of a link between vaccines and autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders. Thimerosal was removed or reduced in most vaccines in the U.S. starting in 2001.
From PBS NewsHour
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The Trump administration is withdrawing the nomination of Dr. David Weldon, a former Florida congressman and anti-vaccine advocate, for director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The announcement came about an hour before Weldon was scheduled to testify Thursday before the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. A person familiar with the matter who spoke on condition of anonymity told The Associated Press that the administration pulled Weldon’s nomination once it became clear that he did not have the votes to advance. The committee later cancelled the hearing. Axios first reported the trouble facing Weldon’s nomination.
During his time in Congress from 1995-2009, Weldon expressed unfounded concerns that a mercury-based preservative in vaccines called thimerosal might be linked to autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders. Repeated research and scientific study have found no evidence of a link between vaccines and autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders. Thimerosal was removed or reduced in most vaccines in the U.S. starting in 2001.From PBS NewsHour
Early in my optometry career soft contact lens disinfecting solutions had thimerosal as a preservative. After some time it was worked out that it caused irritation to eyes and was replaced with other preservatives.
LOL
On Wednesday, a woman gave birth in a Lubbock, Texas, hospital in the middle of a deadly and fast-growing measles outbreak. Doctors didn’t realize until the young mother had been admitted and in labor that she was infected with the measles. By that time, other new moms, newborn babies and their families at University Medical Center Children’s Hospital in Lubbock had unknowingly been exposed to the virus, considered one of the most contagious in the world. Hospital staff are scrambling with damage control efforts — implementing emergency masking policies and giving babies as young as three days old injections of immunoglobulin, an antibody that helps their fragile immune system fight off infections.
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On Wednesday, a woman gave birth in a Lubbock, Texas, hospital in the middle of a deadly and fast-growing measles outbreak. Doctors didn’t realize until the young mother had been admitted and in labor that she was infected with the measles. By that time, other new moms, newborn babies and their families at University Medical Center Children’s Hospital in Lubbock had unknowingly been exposed to the virus, considered one of the most contagious in the world. Hospital staff are scrambling with damage control efforts — implementing emergency masking policies and giving babies as young as three days old injections of immunoglobulin, an antibody that helps their fragile immune system fight off infections.
wait
what happened in 2019 there
oh shit
turns out that CHINA actually saved DPRNA by a glorious act of self sacrifice to inspire at least some infection control measures and kick down those measles outbreaks by 99% for a year
the bastards
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On Wednesday, a woman gave birth in a Lubbock, Texas, hospital in the middle of a deadly and fast-growing measles outbreak. Doctors didn’t realize until the young mother had been admitted and in labor that she was infected with the measles. By that time, other new moms, newborn babies and their families at University Medical Center Children’s Hospital in Lubbock had unknowingly been exposed to the virus, considered one of the most contagious in the world. Hospital staff are scrambling with damage control efforts — implementing emergency masking policies and giving babies as young as three days old injections of immunoglobulin, an antibody that helps their fragile immune system fight off infections.
Not a laughing matter.
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On Wednesday, a woman gave birth in a Lubbock, Texas, hospital in the middle of a deadly and fast-growing measles outbreak. Doctors didn’t realize until the young mother had been admitted and in labor that she was infected with the measles. By that time, other new moms, newborn babies and their families at University Medical Center Children’s Hospital in Lubbock had unknowingly been exposed to the virus, considered one of the most contagious in the world. Hospital staff are scrambling with damage control efforts — implementing emergency masking policies and giving babies as young as three days old injections of immunoglobulin, an antibody that helps their fragile immune system fight off infections.
wait
what happened in 2019 there
oh shit
turns out that CHINA actually saved DPRNA by a glorious act of self sacrifice to inspire at least some infection control measures and kick down those measles outbreaks by 99% for a year
the bastards
Huh. Well spotted.
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SCIENCE said:LOL
On Wednesday, a woman gave birth in a Lubbock, Texas, hospital in the middle of a deadly and fast-growing measles outbreak. Doctors didn’t realize until the young mother had been admitted and in labor that she was infected with the measles. By that time, other new moms, newborn babies and their families at University Medical Center Children’s Hospital in Lubbock had unknowingly been exposed to the virus, considered one of the most contagious in the world. Hospital staff are scrambling with damage control efforts — implementing emergency masking policies and giving babies as young as three days old injections of immunoglobulin, an antibody that helps their fragile immune system fight off infections.
Not a laughing matter.
I’m sure they’ll all be praying for the babies. When the kids die or have irreparable damage they’ll put it down to “God’s will” like the Mennonite father in Seminole, Texas, said. He also said he wished the spotlight being shone on the community wasn’t so bright.
FFS!
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fuck we mean is this 1925 or something
Burn pits were used by the United States military to dispose of rubbish including chemicals, plastics, rubber, munitions and human and medical waste. Former US president Joe Biden has long speculated his son’s fatal brain cancer was caused by exposure to fumes from burn pits. Now there are concerns Australian soldiers have been affected, in a toxic legacy of those conflicts. “We never really talked about it, never really considered, I guess, the long-term health impacts. We just got on with the job,” he said.
how could any modern military not know that burning all kinds of arbitrary shit then breathing it in would be fucking risky shit, it’s like the idiocy of that engineered stone fresco fiasco, just wear a damn P2 mask
Brett Green, pictured with his wife Amber and their son, says its frustrating to know his cancer would be recognised as service-related in the US but not in Australia. (ABC News: Carl Saville)
ah well not to worry soon the DPRNA won’t be recognising any illness and then we’ll have equity equality equivalence whatever
low temperature inburneration inhales plenty that makes stronger, builds immunity, can’t have pansy soldiers worrying about some toxicity when a bigger job needs be done, too many antichemical pansies now, gets in the way of real soldiering, real men go down to the burnpit with a six pack, even a carton, light the fucker up and watch
you mean they’re too soft to even put on a respirator well deity damn what a bunch of damp sponges
well hey wait up we don’t know much about nothing but
LOL fuck who’s in to bet that a few P2 would have prevented this too
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low temperature inburneration inhales plenty that makes stronger, builds immunity, can’t have pansy soldiers worrying about some toxicity when a bigger job needs be done, too many antichemical pansies now, gets in the way of real soldiering, real men go down to the burnpit with a six pack, even a carton, light the fucker up and watch
you mean they’re too soft to even put on a respirator well deity damn what a bunch of damp sponges
well hey wait up we don’t know much about nothing but
LOL fuck who’s in to bet that a few P2 would have prevented this too
Bloody!
LOL
Hundreds of dead and dying birds have fallen from the sky across Newcastle.
The EPA is investigating, collecting samples, and testing to rule out bird flu.
LOL party time soon
all these mysterious things
The Royal Family of Denmark has announced that Queen Mary is suffering from a mystery illness and has been forced to cancel upcoming events. The mother-of-four shared an image of a handmade get well card and flowers that she revealed had been sent to her by two girls, Alma and Ellen, whom she was due to meet at the Heart Association awards.
While the nature of Mary’s illness remains unclear, the Danish Royal House’s Communications Department said in a statement: “Her Majesty the Queen, like many others right now, has become ill, and therefore unfortunately cannot participate in the Heart Association’s award ceremony.”
LOL
На минувшей неделе в Брянской области зафиксирован значительный рост заболеваемости ОРВИ и гриппа. Так, исходя из данных Роспотребнадзора, за помощью медиков обратились почти 16 тысяч брянцев. Из симптомов – высокая температура, озноб, кашель и насморк. Для предотвращения критической ситуации с заболеваемостью местные власти вводят необходимые меры, включая карантин у учебных учреждениях.
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alleged
sorry moved to correct thread
alleged
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alleged
I’ve decided that social media has given people access to dangerous stoopidity that will be the end of us all.
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SCIENCE said:alleged
I’ve decided that social media has given people access to dangerous stoopidity that will be the end of us all.
‘Don’t call it zombie deer disease’: scientists warn of ‘global crisis’ as infections spread across the US
A contagious, fatal illness in deer, elk and moose has taken hold in the US and is now reaching other countries. While it has not infected humans yet, the risk is growing
well hey if your country is shit then at least you can drag the rest of the world down with you
The Credible Hulk:
“This is the level of reality denial we’re dealing with. Essentially, the parents’ justification can be paraphrased as “well, the rest of our kids survived just fine, therefore measles isn’t that bad, whereas shots have side effects.” They’re doubling down on ignorance even after their kid’s death.
Link
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The Credible Hulk:“This is the level of reality denial we’re dealing with. Essentially, the parents’ justification can be paraphrased as “well, the rest of our kids survived just fine, therefore measles isn’t that bad, whereas shots have side effects.” They’re doubling down on ignorance even after their kid’s death.
Link
If you’re going to double down on a child’s death, go all the way.
She’s better off dead than a lifetime of disability non-support.
She’s better off dead rather than fear for her life, all her life, because women have zero rights.
She’s better off dead than sending her parents broke because they can’t afford healthcare.
Don’t just say she’s fine “where she is” because she’s “avoiding negativity”.
kii said:
The Credible Hulk:“This is the level of reality denial we’re dealing with. Essentially, the parents’ justification can be paraphrased as “well, the rest of our kids survived just fine, therefore measles isn’t that bad, whereas shots have side effects.” They’re doubling down on ignorance even after their kid’s death.
Link
“she’s better off dead, than living in a world of negativity” holy fuck balls… that is some double down bullshit going on
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kii said:
The Credible Hulk:
“This is the level of reality denial we’re dealing with. Essentially, the parents’ justification can be paraphrased as “well, the rest of our kids survived just fine, therefore measles isn’t that bad, whereas shots have side effects.” They’re doubling down on ignorance even after their kid’s death.
Link
“she’s better off dead, than living in a world of negativity” holy fuck balls… that is some double down bullshit going on
wait so when fascist anti vaccination fuckers wish people dead it’s good but
wait
good luck peep
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/beyond-long-covid-1.7485888
Beyond long COVID — how reinfections could be causing silent long-term organ damage
Even if you think you’re done with COVID, COVID might not be done with you
kii said:
The Credible Hulk:“This is the level of reality denial we’re dealing with. Essentially, the parents’ justification can be paraphrased as “well, the rest of our kids survived just fine, therefore measles isn’t that bad, whereas shots have side effects.” They’re doubling down on ignorance even after their kid’s death.
Link
It’s a weird place
LOL
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/03/tuberculosis-death-usaid-trump/682062/
The World’s Deadliest Infectious Disease Is About to Get Worse
By retracting foreign aid, President Trump could make tuberculosis untreatable again.
By John Green
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https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/03/tuberculosis-death-usaid-trump/682062/
The World’s Deadliest Infectious Disease Is About to Get Worse
By retracting foreign aid, President Trump could make tuberculosis untreatable again.
By John Green
Bloody!
yeah totally inadvertently sure thing
uh huh
good, good
LOL
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good, good
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/34061274/bubonic-plague-black-death-fatal-uk-case/
Case of bubonic plague in UK turns out to be ‘false alarm’ – after mix up with official data
phew
LOL
To holistically describe long-COVID symptoms and identify risk factors for post-infection neurocognitive and emotional problems, University of Regensburg researchers analyzed clinical data from COVID-19 survivors aged 12 to 17 years who had symptoms for at least 4 weeks. The average patient age was 12.5 years, 61.2% were girls, and the average interval from infection to examination was 5.7 months.
Most children had elevated levels of fatigue (82.4%), loss of motivation (72.9%), impaired concentration and attention (71.8%), and worsened mood (53%), and 31.8% reported more anxiety. The most common diagnoses were post-COVID adjustment disorder (38.8%) and post-COVID attention-deficit disorder (23.5%). Disturbances in attention and memory, drive and psychomotor activity, affect, circadian disturbances, and worries and compulsions were common. The psychopathological examination resulted in 83.5% of patients being rated as abnormal, therefore clearly surmounting the point prevalence of mental illness among children and adolescents (15%). Over half of the adolescents (54.2%) were strongly advised to undergo further psychiatric assessment, 30.2% were urged to undergo further diagnostic testing, and 12.5% were told to seek other help, such as psychotherapy, further somatic assessment, weight control, and specialized diagnostics for chronic fatigue syndrome or occupational therapy. Few (3.1%) received no recommendations. In total, 14.1% of participants received no psychiatric diagnosis, while 8.3% had a psychiatric diagnosis unrelated to COVID-19, and 56.5% had a confirmed and 21.1% had a suspected post-COVID psychiatric diagnosis, respectively.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/tests-show-emotional-behavioral-problems-adolescents-long-covid
Bumpalumpa.
Next-generation, inhaled COVID-19 vaccine enters phase-2 clinical trial
Researchers at McMaster University have started a phase-2 clinical trial on a next-generation, inhaled COVID-19 vaccine.
The AeroVax study, supported by $8M in funding from the Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR), will test needle-free vaccines developed to provide protection from SARS-CoV-2.
Led by Fiona Smaill and Zhou Xing, members of the Michael G. DeGroote Institute for Infectious Disease Research (IIDR) at McMaster, the multi-centre trial will evaluate the new vaccine in a broad study group, while also confirming safety.
Findings from pre-clinical studies and the soon-to-be-published data from the phase-1 trial indicate that McMaster’s inhaled vaccine is more effective at inducing immune responses than traditional injected vaccines are, because it directly targets the lungs and upper airways — where the virus first enters the body.
I got an invitation to participate, but since I’ve had a significant respiratory illness within the past 12 months I’m ineligible.
Hi DA,
We have begun a clinical trial evaluating a potential new combination vaccine for respiratory illnesses.
If you are aged 18 to 49 years, are in good general health and do not have any significant medical conditions, you may be eligible to participate in the trial of investigational RSV/hMPV/PIV3 vaccines, and investigational influenza vaccines.
Respiratory illnesses such as influenza, RSV, hMPV, and PIV3 are highly contagious and peaking during colder months. Influenza can lead to fever, fatigue, and severe complications like pneumonia, requiring new vaccines annually to match evolving strains. RSV, hMPV, and PIV3 often impact children and older adults, causing breathing difficulties and, in severe cases, hospitalisations. While flu vaccines and a new RSV vaccine for adults over 60 are available, there are no vaccines for hMPV or PIV3, highlighting an important gap that clinical trials seek to address.
We are seeking applications from people who:
are aged between 18 and 49 years
are in good general health and do not have any significant medical conditions
have a body mass index (BMI) below 40
do not have a history of Influenza and/or RSV and/or hMPV and/or PIV3-associated illness, diagnosed in the last 12 months
can attend 5 visits within a period of 6 weeks at our Morayfield clinic in Moreton Bay and 1 phone call around 5 months after.
Divine Angel said:
I got an invitation to participate, but since I’ve had a significant respiratory illness within the past 12 months I’m ineligible.Hi DA,
We have begun a clinical trial evaluating a potential new combination vaccine for respiratory illnesses.
If you are aged 18 to 49 years, are in good general health and do not have any significant medical conditions, you may be eligible to participate in the trial of investigational RSV/hMPV/PIV3 vaccines, and investigational influenza vaccines.
Respiratory illnesses such as influenza, RSV, hMPV, and PIV3 are highly contagious and peaking during colder months. Influenza can lead to fever, fatigue, and severe complications like pneumonia, requiring new vaccines annually to match evolving strains. RSV, hMPV, and PIV3 often impact children and older adults, causing breathing difficulties and, in severe cases, hospitalisations. While flu vaccines and a new RSV vaccine for adults over 60 are available, there are no vaccines for hMPV or PIV3, highlighting an important gap that clinical trials seek to address.We are seeking applications from people who:
are aged between 18 and 49 years
are in good general health and do not have any significant medical conditions
have a body mass index (BMI) below 40
do not have a history of Influenza and/or RSV and/or hMPV and/or PIV3-associated illness, diagnosed in the last 12 months
can attend 5 visits within a period of 6 weeks at our Morayfield clinic in Moreton Bay and 1 phone call around 5 months after.
Interesting, ta.
SCIENCE said:
LOL
I dred the day Hanrahan gets wind of that, he was a bugger at mass, what with all the rain.
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Well, to be quite brutal about it, it should at least further reduce the Trump/MAGA/Republican voter base.
nah this is as useless as vaccines
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9854pg0z9go
Indoor air quality monitors have been provided for children with asthma or infant wheeze in an initiative in two towns. The Healthy Air for Healthy Lungs programme focuses on households with children aged two to 10 who have respiratory conditions. St Helens Council said it was having a “dramatic” impact on children’s health. Director of Public Health Ruth du Plessis said: “Early feedback and data have been really promising, showing us that families are adopting air quality improvements.” They were “being more mindful of how they cook, clean, heat and ventilate their homes”, she said. “It’s clearly having a dramatic and positive impact on the health of young children, with reduced need for inhalers and fewer hospital visits recorded by parents and guardians.” A total of 150 monitors have been given out in St Helens, with a waiting list for new applications.
sarahs mum said:
thanks
love how the article bangs on about everything except the most effective preventative measure
P2
LOL
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-03/nsw-health-measles-alert-sydney-eastern-suburbs/105130940
LOL
gotta copy that USSA shit oh yeah
New measles case in Victoria
A new locally-acquired measles case has been reported in Victoria who has been infectious at multiple locations around Melbourne and Gippsland. This case has no history of overseas travel or links to recent measles cases, and most likely acquired their infection in the Melbourne area. There have been 15 cases of measles identified among Victorian residents in 2025, with five confirmed cases of local acquisition.
https://www.health.vic.gov.au/health-alerts/new-measles-case-in-victoria-4
SCIENCE said:
LOL
gotta copy that USSA shit oh yeah
New measles case in Victoria
A new locally-acquired measles case has been reported in Victoria who has been infectious at multiple locations around Melbourne and Gippsland. This case has no history of overseas travel or links to recent measles cases, and most likely acquired their infection in the Melbourne area. There have been 15 cases of measles identified among Victorian residents in 2025, with five confirmed cases of local acquisition.
https://www.health.vic.gov.au/health-alerts/new-measles-case-in-victoria-4
So what’s the LOL for?
alleged
2nd child dead in West Texas. Measles.
kii said:
Evil fuckwit.2nd child dead in West Texas. Measles.
Antivax parents usually put on a brave front when this kind of thing happens but I wonder if at the back of their minds is the realisation that they killed their child.
dv said:
kii said:
Evil fuckwit.2nd child dead in West Texas. Measles.
Antivax parents usually put on a brave front when this kind of thing happens but I wonder if at the back of their minds is the realisation that they killed their child.
It’s their God’s will.
dv said:
kii said:
Evil fuckwit.2nd child dead in West Texas. Measles.
Antivax parents usually put on a brave front when this kind of thing happens but I wonder if at the back of their minds is the realisation that they killed their child.
Dunno. Interesting notion, though.
kii said:
dv said:
kii said:
Evil fuckwit.2nd child dead in West Texas. Measles.
Antivax parents usually put on a brave front when this kind of thing happens but I wonder if at the back of their minds is the realisation that they killed their child.
It’s their God’s will.
Ah.
It’d slipped my mind.
The ultra-right Christian mob, I mean. (And their media.) Such a cultural difference.
Thanks for the reminder.
Michael V said:
kii said:
dv said:Antivax parents usually put on a brave front when this kind of thing happens but I wonder if at the back of their minds is the realisation that they killed their child.
It’s their God’s will.
Ah.
It’d slipped my mind.
The ultra-right Christian mob, I mean. (And their media.) Such a cultural difference.
Thanks for the reminder.
“It’s their God’s will.”
So, essentially, a sacrifice to appease their God?
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
kii said:It’s their God’s will.
Ah.
It’d slipped my mind.
The ultra-right Christian mob, I mean. (And their media.) Such a cultural difference.
Thanks for the reminder.
“It’s their God’s will.”
So, essentially, a sacrifice to appease their God?
But with the sacrifice praying for God’s grace right up to death itself.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:Ah.
It’d slipped my mind.
The ultra-right Christian mob, I mean. (And their media.) Such a cultural difference.
Thanks for the reminder.
“It’s their God’s will.”
So, essentially, a sacrifice to appease their God?
But with the sacrifice praying for God’s grace right up to death itself.
FFS!
kii said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:“It’s their God’s will.”
So, essentially, a sacrifice to appease their God?
But with the sacrifice praying for God’s grace right up to death itself.
FFS!
LOL 😂
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
kii said:It’s their God’s will.
Ah.
It’d slipped my mind.
The ultra-right Christian mob, I mean. (And their media.) Such a cultural difference.
Thanks for the reminder.
“It’s their God’s will.”
So, essentially, a sacrifice to appease their God?
Heh!
Probably…
oh
it’s so cute when they think the purpose of mass media is to inform rather than to farm engagement
LOL
Ontario schools are starting to issue suspensions to some of the thousands of students who aren’t fully vaccinated, as the spread of measles continues, giving new urgency to calls for the province to digitize its immunization record system.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-schools-suspend-students-vaccines-1.7505150
Canada Is Communist CHINA The Bastards
PANICAN
dv said:
PANICAN
LOL but we can’t even think of a way the original coining of that was witty, though as seen earlier we’re fucking stupid
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Ontario schools are starting to issue suspensions to some of the thousands of students who aren’t fully vaccinated, as the spread of measles continues, giving new urgency to calls for the province to digitize its immunization record system.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-schools-suspend-students-vaccines-1.7505150
Canada Is Communist CHINA The Bastards
When I was the the director of the preschool I was responsible for keeping up-to-date vaccination records of all the kids.
If there were any cases of measles etc I was required by law to notify DOCS, I think…memory is a bit fuzzy of the full process.
It was really difficult for some parents to accept that their unvaccinated crotch goblins were not allowed to attend the centre during any outbreaks.
One boy couldn’t be fully vaccinated due to severe egg allergies, so that was fun. His parents were really great* about everything, unlike the rabid antivaxxers. *both were teachers
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
PANICAN
LOL but we can’t even think of a way the original coining of that was witty, though as seen earlier we’re fucking stupid
Dear Leader apparently coined the word
kii said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
PANICAN
LOL but we can’t even think of a way the original coining of that was witty, though as seen earlier we’re fucking stupid
Dear Leader apparently coined the word
yes that’s what we mean, as yous lot have mentioned it’s easy to imagine the fascist fucks gushing over the clever word play, but it seems to us that it was so clever it’s beyond our comprehension
probably like covfefe
kii said:
SCIENCE said:dv said:
PANICAN
LOL but we can’t even think of a way the original coining of that was witty, though as seen earlier we’re fucking stupid
Dear Leader apparently coined the word
“So, either the outcome of this “study” has already been decided, or a widespread eugenics program is about to be rolled out. My money is on a little of both. Prepare yourself for the anti-vaccine propaganda machine to declare total vindication. This is science under dear leader.”
From a Facebook page supporting vaccinations.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11980434/
Altered Circulating Cytokine Profile Among mRNA‐Vaccinated Young Adults: A Year‐Long Follow‐Up Study
proof that it really was made by CHINA in a laboratory
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-19/donald-trump-launches-covid-19-lab-leak-theory-site/105193140
it’s the strongest evidence they have yet
SCIENCE said:
proof that it really was made by CHINA in a laboratory
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-19/donald-trump-launches-covid-19-lab-leak-theory-site/105193140
it’s the strongest evidence they have yet
He’s really trying to get China offside now.
nah no way we swear it was incompetence not malice
SCIENCE said:
uh oh
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/20/health/marijuana-dementia-wellness/index.html
I’m no wowser but yeah if marijuana puts you in hospital you might be overdoing it
roughbarked said:
poikilotherm said:
roughie may want to go and get a vaccination.
5 people have acquired JEV in NSW in 2025 and sadly two of these people have died
JEV is likely to be present across NSW west of the Great Dividing Range and parts of northern NSW.
The risk is likely to continue in future seasons.
I have been vaccinated for JEV. Thanks for thinking of me.
also sounds like the news is a lie since about 1% of acquisitions are even sick at all so they’re just being alarmist shits
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
poikilotherm said:
roughie may want to go and get a vaccination.
5 people have acquired JEV in NSW in 2025 and sadly two of these people have died
JEV is likely to be present across NSW west of the Great Dividing Range and parts of northern NSW.
The risk is likely to continue in future seasons.
I have been vaccinated for JEV. Thanks for thinking of me.
also sounds like the news is a lie since about 1% of acquisitions are even sick at all so they’re just being alarmist shits
Well, if most people don’t show symptoms and only those that do show up for testing, it could still be correct .
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
poikilotherm said:
roughie may want to go and get a vaccination.
5 people have acquired JEV in NSW in 2025 and sadly two of these people have died
JEV is likely to be present across NSW west of the Great Dividing Range and parts of northern NSW.
The risk is likely to continue in future seasons.
I have been vaccinated for JEV. Thanks for thinking of me.
also sounds like the news is a lie since about 1% of acquisitions are even sick at all so they’re just being alarmist shits
People with COPD, can’t take risks like that. Particularly if they live near piggeries.
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
I have been vaccinated for JEV. Thanks for thinking of me.
also sounds like the news is a lie since about 1% of acquisitions are even sick at all so they’re just being alarmist shits
Well, if most people don’t show symptoms and only those that do show up for testing, it could still be correct .
so they should have said
5 people have acquired severe symptomatic test positive JEV in NSW in 2025 and sadly two of these people have died
Human coronaviruses (HCoVs) include seven species: HCoV-229E, HCoV-NL63, HCoV-OC43, HCoV-HKU1, MERS-CoV, SARS-CoV-1, and SARS-CoV-2. The last three, classified as Betacoronaviruses, are highly transmissible and have caused severe pandemics. HCoV infections primarily affect the respiratory system, leading to symptoms such as dry cough, fever, and breath shortness, which can progress to acute respiratory failure and death. Beyond respiratory effects, increasing evidence links HCoVs to neurological dysfunction. However, distinguishing direct neural complications from preexisting disorders, particularly in the elderly, remains challenging. This study examines the association between HCoVs and neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer disease, Parkinson disease, Lewy body dementia, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. It also presents the long-term neurological effects of HCoV infections and their differential impact across age groups and sexes. A key aspect of this study is the investigation of the sequence and structural similarities between amyloidogenic and HCoV spike proteins, which can provide insights into potential neuropathomechanisms.
oh they’re finally catching on
https://x.com/DrPatSoonShiong/status/1915939162798141484
The Hidden Key to Addressing COVID and Cancer – Our Lymphocytes
A peripheral lymphopenia impacts on patient PFS and OS in many advanced solid tumors. In breast and ovarian carcinomas, NHL, DLBCL, T-cell lymphomas (PTCL, PTCLU), follicular lymphoma, sarcomas and colon carcinoma, a global (<1000/mm3) or severe (<700/mm3) lymphopenia detected before treatment, early after chemotherapy treatment (5 or 15 days) or after radiotherapy (RT) is associated with a worse PFS and OS. Other studies using different thresholds of lymphopenia from moderate (<1500/mm3) to severe (<600/mm3), report similar results in recurrent desmoid tumors, pancreatic tumors, renal cell carcinoma (RCC), diffuse large B cell lymphomas (DLBCL), Hodgkin’s disease, and HCC.
Today, I presented at the American Urological Association (AUA) Annual Meeting Keynote and took the opportunity to address the doctors in the audience about the missing link that has impeded our war against cancer.
It was important for me to honestly and openly address that our standards of care harm the immune system and that we have developed so called pre-medications to address the harm we actually induce with high-dose chemotherapy, high dose radiation, steroids and even checkpoint inhibitors. I felt I needed to take this opportunity to reveal the blind spots that we have accepted for fifty years and to address dogma on behalf of the patients.
The slide deck is shared here
. The keynote went almost an hour and I will highlight in this X article the key points I wanted to make.
First, I needed to address exactly what is this “missing link”. It turns out to be the most important cells in our immune system that is needed to kill cancer and to clear our body of infection including cells infected with virus (such as COVID). These immune cells with which we are born, are the natural kills and T cells in our body designed to find and attack the cells that become cancerous or cells that are infected.
The video slide below shows how a natural killer cell (in red) attacks a breast cancer cell (in green) and rapidly kills (in blue) and since 1990, I became obsessed as to how to activate these cells in our body. They evolved over millions of years for a reason.
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So clearly, these are important cells in our body. It would be crazy if we actually destroyed these cells with our treatment. That is exactly we have been doing for decades. Chemotherapy, radiation, steroids all destroy these cells, known as lymphocytes. There is a test in a standard complete blood count (CBC – a laboratory test that is less than $30
) in which the lymphocytes can be measured – called the Absolute Lymphocyte Count (ALC). Yet, when we discuss ALC with many doctors, a curious look appears since it is so unfamiliar to them.
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Win the battle… lose the war – Chemotherapy and CPI induced lymphopenia
The challenge now remains for us to completely re-educate the field, our patients and physicians including the regulatory authorities that lymphopenia matters and that it is possible to prolong the life of all patients with cancer by addressing lymphopenia. Meaning that regardless of the tumor type, if our lymphocytes are destroyed then the survival of patients with cancer are reduced. Incredibly, this knowledge of lymphopenia, shortening the life of patients with cancer has been known for years (C Ménétrier-Caux 2019
).For the lay audience, these authors have reported and reviewed data across multiple publications all showing that with a loss of lymphocytes (NK & T cells) at a level below 1,000 lymphocytes per microliter in the blood, progression of the cancer and the survival is significantly shortened.
Our findings demonstrate that lymphopenia is an independent prognostic factor for overall and progression-free survival in several cancers.
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Different published studies exploring the impact of the global lymphopenia or NK and T cell subsets on relapse-free survival (RFS) or overall survival (OS) in patients with solid tumors
As stated by Ray-Coquard et al., (Ray-Coquard 2010
), over 15 years agoPaper after paper report this phenomenon of lymphopenia and identify it merely as a poor prognostic predictive biomarker. This explains why practicing clinicians have largely ignored the measurement of Absolute Lymphocyte Count (ALC) as a missing link in managing a patient with cancer since no therapy existed until ANKTIVA was approved to address a low NK and T cell count. Now instead of merely being a prognostic biomarker, it has the potential to be a therapeutic biomarker guiding the treatment of patients with cancer and COVID.
radiotherapy temozolomide (TMZ) corticosteroids (steroids)
Just as in cancer, the negative phenomenon of immunosuppression and lymphopenia occurs with viral infections and COVID (Martinez-Urbistondo 2021 and Xiang 2021
).
Based on these well documented findings, it would be rational to ensure that our current standards of care protect the lymphocytes as much as possible to improve the survival of patients with cancer. Sadly, our standards of care do the opposite and this keynote was an opportunity for me to present this disturbing fact.
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Overcoming the barriers to the cure – Win the battle… lose the war.
The encouraging news I then shared with the audience that for the first time, a therapy exists to treat lymphopenia and demonstrate prolonged survival in bladder cancer and indeed discuss the same effect across multiple tumors such as in lung cancer (NSCLC) and pancreatic cancer.
To emphasize my point on how dangerous lymphopenia is, I discussed glioblastoma (brain tumors) which remains a disease with very poor prognosis – and that perhaps the reason for this intractable problem is that our standards of care for brain tumors have not changed for decades and involve:Remarkably, each of these therapies (radiotherapy, TMZ and steroids) are some of the most potent killers of lymphocytes. Little wonder that not much progress has been made in the treatment of brain tumors. We are now instituting clinical trials (QUILT-3.078
) to explore this next generation immunotherapy of lymphocyte stimulating agent to overcome the severe lymphopenia effect of current standards of care.
A disease that has eluded oncologists for decades is the treatment of pancreatic cancer. I have spent my career trying to solve the reason why patients with late-stage pancreatic cancer die within weeks. Paper after paper after paper now reveal that lymphopenia tied to immunosuppression is a key factor. The neutrophil-lymphocyte-ratio (NLR) will be a subject of a later X article.
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The double whammy against our immune system. A high neutrophil lymphocyte ratio (NLR) with the combination of high immunosuppression and low killing lymphocytes
Which brings us to the hope that we could win the battle and also win the war by having long-term duration of complete response. I provided the example of patients receiving ANKTIVA + BCG almost a decade ago and now still in complete remission for more than nine years.
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Nine year complete response in patients with bladder cancer – the power of the immune system.
To emphasize our choices, I provided a graphic on the “Quantum State” of the bladder depending on the choices made and the mechanism of action of the therapies.
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The Bladder’s Quantum State – The Immune Protected Healthy Bladder, The Immune Compromised Bladder, The Crippled Painful Bladder, The Lost Bladder
I was asked by the organizers of AUA to present my history of development of biologics and what inspired me. I shared in this keynote the honor and privilege of having met Pope Francis and the inspiration and strength he afforded me to continue this fight against dogma and follow the science. May he rest in peace. He was an inspiration to the world for empathy and kindness to the underprivileged, underserved and universal caring for all.
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Pope Francis & Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong
Finally, I left the audience of young doctors with the algorithm for a purposeful career and serving the best interests of patients.
Never quit…
Fight dogma…
Ignore naysayers…
Follow the science…
Follow your passion…
Courage of your convictions…
Purposeful impactful innovation…The only interest to be considered is that of your patients
LOL
Researchers have estimated approximately 8% of Americas have ever experienced long COVID, or lasting symptoms, following an acute COVID-19 infection. Now two recent international studies suggest that the percentage is much higher among healthcare workers and dental professionals.
40% prevalence in health workers globally
In the first study, published in BMJ Public Health, authors conducted a meta-analysis of 28 studies with a combined sample size of 6,481 healthcare workers (HCWs). Globally, HCWs have been at an increased risk for COVID-19 infections since the beginning of the pandemic in 2020, due to both exposure to the virus and work conducted in a high-stress environment that may exacerbate the risk of long-term post-viral symptoms. In a second study, a survey conducted in Germany reveals a 23% rate of long COVID among dental professionals, with higher rates in auxiliary personnel than in dentists. The study is published in Scientific Reports.
