With the passage of the Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Act, Labour has formalised its plan to almost completely renationalise the railways of Great Britain. The new governing entity will be called Great British Railways. It will cover all rail travel apart from that covered by Transport for London, Merseytravel, and light rail.

These measures will largely undo the privatisation and compartmentalisation that commenced in 1994 under the Major government.

As the name perhaps suggests, the body will not cover rail in Northern Ireland. NI and the Republic have jointly published an All-Island Strategic Rail Review, detailing coordinated plans to modernise and electrify the railways in the whole of Ireland, with plans for frequent 200 km/h trains between cities, and the commissioning of an additional 700 km of track. Unlike GB which mainly uses Standard Gauge, all of Ireland uses the 1600 mm gauge.

dv said:

With the passage of the Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Act, Labour has formalised its plan to almost completely renationalise the railways of Great Britain. The new governing entity will be called Great British Railways. It will cover all rail travel apart from that covered by Transport for London, Merseytravel, and light rail.

These measures will largely undo the privatisation and compartmentalisation that commenced in 1994 under the Major government.

As the name perhaps suggests, the body will not cover rail in Northern Ireland. NI and the Republic have jointly published an All-Island Strategic Rail Review, detailing coordinated plans to modernise and electrify the railways in the whole of Ireland, with plans for frequent 200 km/h trains between cities, and the commissioning of an additional 700 km of track. Unlike GB which mainly uses Standard Gauge, all of Ireland uses the 1600 mm gauge.

Railways in Britain have been a hot topic there for years.

Privatisation brought none of the benefits that were touted for it, and made rail travel hideously expensive. Services, especially on Southern Rail, are legendarily late or cancelled.

At one recent stage , it was cheaper to fly from London to Edinburgh, and then from Spain to Edinburgh, than it was to travel London – Edinburgh by rail.

captain_spalding said:

At one recent stage , it was cheaper to fly from London to Edinburgh, and then from Spain to Edinburgh, than it was to travel London – Edinburgh by rail.

Apologies.

At one recent stage , it was cheaper to fly from London to Spain, and then from Spain to Edinburgh, than it was to travel London – Edinburgh by rail.

(I plead drunkeness and dumbness, m’lud, and ask for 4,500 previous convictions to be taken into consideration.)

dv said:

Unlike GB which mainly uses Standard Gauge, all of Ireland uses the 1600 mm gauge.

Ah, ‘broad gauge’.

On the other hand, there was a railway in Ireland that had the narrowest of gauges:

https://www.lartiguemonorail.com/

Elon Musk on Saturday called for Britain’s King Charles to dissolve parliament and order a new general election over complaints about the British government’s handling of “grooming gangs” a decade ago, marking the Tesla CEO’s latest venture into global politics as British officials say Musk has shared “factually inaccurate” claims on social media.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/01/04/elon-musk-pushes-for-britains-king-charles-to-dissolve-parliament-as-lawmakers-say-tesla-ceo-is-misinformed/

dv said:

Elon Musk on Saturday called for Britain’s King Charles to dissolve parliament and order a new general election over complaints about the British government’s handling of “grooming gangs” a decade ago, marking the Tesla CEO’s latest venture into global politics as British officials say Musk has shared “factually inaccurate” claims on social media.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/01/04/elon-musk-pushes-for-britains-king-charles-to-dissolve-parliament-as-lawmakers-say-tesla-ceo-is-misinformed/

I think he is going to get smacked down pretty hard in the UK. Even from the UK far right. The UK far right is not the same as the US far right.

dv said:

Elon Musk on Saturday called for Britain’s King Charles to dissolve parliament and order a new general election over complaints about the British government’s handling of “grooming gangs” a decade ago, marking the Tesla CEO’s latest venture into global politics as British officials say Musk has shared “factually inaccurate” claims on social media.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/01/04/elon-musk-pushes-for-britains-king-charles-to-dissolve-parliament-as-lawmakers-say-tesla-ceo-is-misinformed/

Oh, dear…

Where are all those lunatic Americans with guns when you need them?

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

Elon Musk on Saturday called for Britain’s King Charles to dissolve parliament and order a new general election over complaints about the British government’s handling of “grooming gangs” a decade ago, marking the Tesla CEO’s latest venture into global politics as British officials say Musk has shared “factually inaccurate” claims on social media.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/01/04/elon-musk-pushes-for-britains-king-charles-to-dissolve-parliament-as-lawmakers-say-tesla-ceo-is-misinformed/

I think he is going to get smacked down pretty hard in the UK. Even from the UK far right. The UK far right is not the same as the US far right.

Oh, dear…

Where are all those lunatic Americans with guns when you need them?

we hope yous are correct but yous would think that all these our souls must know when the public sentiment is ripe to make their move given their level of access to the best advanced surveillance capitalism data analytics on any potential voter with an internet connection and able to click on even a single YouTube video and hence we don’t share yousr optimism

dv said:

Elon Musk on Saturday called for Britain’s King Charles to dissolve parliament and order a new general election over complaints about the British government’s handling of “grooming gangs” a decade ago, marking the Tesla CEO’s latest venture into global politics as British officials say Musk has shared “factually inaccurate” claims on social media.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/01/04/elon-musk-pushes-for-britains-king-charles-to-dissolve-parliament-as-lawmakers-say-tesla-ceo-is-misinformed/

Fk Musk.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Elon Musk on Saturday called for Britain’s King Charles to dissolve parliament and order a new general election over complaints about the British government’s handling of “grooming gangs” a decade ago, marking the Tesla CEO’s latest venture into global politics as British officials say Musk has shared “factually inaccurate” claims on social media.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/01/04/elon-musk-pushes-for-britains-king-charles-to-dissolve-parliament-as-lawmakers-say-tesla-ceo-is-misinformed/

I think he is going to get smacked down pretty hard in the UK. Even from the UK far right. The UK far right is not the same as the US far right.

I hope so.

Michael V said:

dv said:

Elon Musk on Saturday called for Britain’s King Charles to dissolve parliament and order a new general election over complaints about the British government’s handling of “grooming gangs” a decade ago, marking the Tesla CEO’s latest venture into global politics as British officials say Musk has shared “factually inaccurate” claims on social media.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/01/04/elon-musk-pushes-for-britains-king-charles-to-dissolve-parliament-as-lawmakers-say-tesla-ceo-is-misinformed/

Fk Musk.

Musk’s ego is getting rather out of hand, isn’t it.
Hasn’t he got some companies to run?

ruby said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Elon Musk on Saturday called for Britain’s King Charles to dissolve parliament and order a new general election over complaints about the British government’s handling of “grooming gangs” a decade ago, marking the Tesla CEO’s latest venture into global politics as British officials say Musk has shared “factually inaccurate” claims on social media.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/01/04/elon-musk-pushes-for-britains-king-charles-to-dissolve-parliament-as-lawmakers-say-tesla-ceo-is-misinformed/

Fk Musk.

Musk’s ego is getting rather out of hand, isn’t it.
Hasn’t he got some companies to run?

Ahhhh, from the Guardian-

“The SpaceX founder took a dim view of Starmer’s robust response to the riots that broke out in response to a stabbing attack against young girls in Southport in late July. In the last week, Musk has shared posts claiming people convicted of sharing extreme rightwing material online have been given harsher sentences than perpetrators of the grooming scandal.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jan/06/why-is-elon-musk-attacking-keir-starmer-over-grooming-scandal

U.K. Special Forces Allowed to ‘Get Away With Murder’ in Afghanistan, Inquiry Told
Evidence released by an official inquiry into alleged war crimes painted a disturbing picture of an elite fighting force with a culture of impunity.

By Mark Landler
Reporting from London

Jan. 8, 2025

British special forces soldiers used extreme methods against militants in Afghanistan, including covering a man with a pillow before shooting him with a pistol, as well as killing unarmed people, according to testimony released Wednesday by an inquiry into the actions of British troops during the war there.

“During these operations it was said that ‘all fighting-age males are killed’ on target regardless of the threat they posed, this included those not holding weapons,” one officer said in a conversation with a fellow soldier in March 2011 that he confirmed in testimony given during a closed-door hearing.

Britain’s Ministry of Defense announced in 2022 that it would institute the inquiry to investigate allegations of war crimes by British armed forces in Afghanistan between 2010 and 2013. In 2023, it confirmed that the allegations related to special forces troops.

The hundreds of pages of evidence released Wednesday, which includes email exchanges, letters and witness statements by senior officers and rank-and-file soldiers, painted a disturbing portrait of an elite fighting force with a culture of impunity, which placed body counts above all other benchmarks.

One member of a British unit said that the troops appeared to be “beyond reproach” during the long years of combat in Afghanistan, which amounted to “a golden pass allowing them to get away with murder.”

Like all of the witnesses, that soldier’s identity was not revealed. Many of the statements and other documents were heavily redacted to suppress names, units and the location of operations.

But even with those details withheld, there were revealing descriptions of junior officers raising concerns with their superiors about tactics used during nighttime raids on militants.

In an email exchange from February 2011, a soldier told a senior officer of a raid in which a lone Afghan fighter, ordered to go back inside a building, returned with a weapon, even though he was heavily outnumbered. The soldier questioned whether the SAS units were ordering Afghans to fetch their weapons, “thereby setting the conditions for their execution?”

“A good point,” his superior replied. “There appears to be a casual disregard for life, COIN principles and credible reporting.”

COIN refers to the counterinsurgency doctrine used by American, British and other NATO troops during much of the war in Afghanistan. Among other concerns, the wanton killing of Afghan fighters and civilians was viewed as destroying trust between foreign troops and the civilian population.

In another exchange, the same senior officer described how the SAS seemed to be reverting to “the good ole tactics.”

When he raised a question in an email about whether SAS units were manufacturing scenarios that allowed them to kill Afghan combatants, another officer replied, “these Afghans are so stupid they deserve to die.” The first officer said he viewed the reply as “a glib comment on his part reflecting the fact that the way it is described that the Afghans were killed doesn’t add up.”

The Ministry of Defense said it was “appropriate that we await the outcome” of the inquiry “before commenting further.”

Allegations of war crimes by British troops in Afghanistan are not new. They have been highlighted in media reports, most notably by the BBC investigative program Panorama. American special operations troops have also been accused of repeated cases of misconduct in Afghanistan, including killing civilians in raids and then trying to cover it up.

The conduct of Britain’s elite troops flared into a political dispute last fall when the Conservative Party was choosing a new leader. Robert Jenrick, one of the candidates, claimed without evidence that they “are killing rather than capturing terrorists” and said that was because a European human rights court would otherwise force Britain to release them.

Mr. Jenrick came under sharp criticism from two other candidates, Tom Tugendhat and James Cleverly, both former soldiers. Mr. Tugendhat said his comments showed a “fundamental misunderstanding of military operations and the law of unarmed conflict.”

Some of these disclosures came to light because of a fierce rivalry between the SAS, or Special Air Services, the special forces unit of the British Army, and the SBS, or Special Boat Service, its counterpart in the Royal Navy. SAS troops arrived in Afghanistan in 2009, many fresh from the war in Iraq, and took over the mission of hunting Taliban militants from the SBS. Many of the concerns about their methods were raised by SBS soldiers and their commanders.

Several witnesses expressed frustration that there was a culture of covering up misdeeds by falsifying operations reports. In the case of the Afghan man whose head was covered by a pillow, “It was implied that photos would be taken of the deceased alongside weapons that the ‘fighting age male’ may not have had in their position when they were killed,” one soldier recounted to the inquiry.

Another soldier said in a February 2011 email that when people raised concerns, they were met with the response, “‘What doesn’t everyone get about how important these ops are?’ The guys appear to be beyond reproach,” he wrote. “Astonishing.”

Some warned that British forces were vulnerable to the same embarrassment as their American allies, who were tarred in 2010 by the leaking of military logs documenting six years of the Afghanistan war by WikiLeaks, the antisecrecy group established by Julian Assange.

“If we don’t believe this,” an officer said in an email, “then no one else will and when the next WikiLeaks occurs then we will be dragged down with them.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/08/world/europe/uk-afghanistan-war-crimes.html?

SCIENCE said:

Is that from those whom live within the Gulf Of America?

link

sarahs mum said:

link

Ha ha, beat you posting this one by <-> this much, but I should have thought to also post it in the UK Politics thread :))

ruby said:

sarahs mum said:

link

Ha ha, beat you posting this one by <-> this much, but I should have thought to also post it in the UK Politics thread :))

it was a toss up.

sarahs mum said:

link

Some can. Most can’t.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-05/sam-kerr-trial-london-metropolitan-police-chelsea-matildas/104897448

turns out snowflakes are white

and male and in positions of power

No need to panic yet. Alert but not alarmed as they say.

dv said:

No need to panic yet. Alert but not alarmed as they say.

I’m not panicking. I’m not alarmed. I’m not even alert. But I am mystified.

Michael V said:

dv said:

No need to panic yet. Alert but not alarmed as they say.

I’m not panicking. I’m not alarmed. I’m not even alert. But I am mystified.

Michael V said:

dv said:

No need to panic yet. Alert but not alarmed as they say.

I’m not panicking. I’m not alarmed. I’m not even alert. But I am mystified.

Banana-based minimalism is all the rage right now.

esselte said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

No need to panic yet. Alert but not alarmed as they say.

I’m not panicking. I’m not alarmed. I’m not even alert. But I am mystified.

Banana-based minimalism is all the rage right now.

What’s with the bananas?

esselte said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

No need to panic yet. Alert but not alarmed as they say.

I’m not panicking. I’m not alarmed. I’m not even alert. But I am mystified.

Banana-based minimalism is all the rage right now.

OK, but does the bowl of peeled bananas mean anything?

Or is it just to feed the hedgehogs?

Michael V said:

esselte said:

Michael V said:

I’m not panicking. I’m not alarmed. I’m not even alert. But I am mystified.

Banana-based minimalism is all the rage right now.

OK, but does the bowl of peeled bananas mean anything?

Or is it just to feed the hedgehogs?

Probably better I don’t tell you, it will just put you at risk

dv said:

Michael V said:

esselte said:

Banana-based minimalism is all the rage right now.

OK, but does the bowl of peeled bananas mean anything?

Or is it just to feed the hedgehogs?

Probably better I don’t tell you, it will just put you at risk

To be properly minimalist everything should be black & white.

dv said:

Michael V said:

esselte said:

Banana-based minimalism is all the rage right now.

OK, but does the bowl of peeled bananas mean anything?

Or is it just to feed the hedgehogs?

Probably better I don’t tell you, it will just put you at risk

OK.

Michael V said:

dv said:

No need to panic yet. Alert but not alarmed as they say.

I’m not panicking. I’m not alarmed. I’m not even alert. But I am mystified.

Mythbutsers peeled a lot of bananas for a slipping on a banana peel myth. Maybe they’ve been distributing the peeled bananas to the poor?

what the fuck

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-07/sam-kerr-trial-kristie-mewis-cross-examination-london/104907414

“What did his race have to do with anything?,” he asked. “As I’ve explained to you before, I felt it was him using his power and privilege over me because he perceived me to be something I’m not,” she said.

aha there you see telling white fella that white fella are privileged is racist

Ms Kerr was grilled about why she used the term “stupid and white” toward Constable Stephen Lovell, accepting in court that she used his “whiteness” to show hostility toward him, amid a dispute about a taxi ride in London in 2023. “That is a problem based on his perception as a man … not putting himself in the shoes of a woman,” he said. “Yes,” Ms Kerr replied. “ nothing to do with race has it.” “Not particularly,” she admitted. “What you were saying to him, Ms Kerr, was you’re stupid because you’re white,” he responded. “No,” she replied.

look we might not understand this white fella language as well as everyone else but we would have thought that if you say “A and Z” that is in no way implying that “A because Z” but sure whatever goes

UK health minister sacked after wishing for elderly constituent’s death

By Rob Harris
February 9, 2025 — 9.23am

London: Britain’s health minister has been sacked after exchanging racist and sexist messages, including one saying he hoped a pensioner who did not vote Labour would die before the next election.

Andrew Gwynne, who has been an MP for 20 years, also made antisemitic remarks and joked about a constituent being “mown down” by a truck in a WhatsApp group with colleagues.

The messages were reportedly exchanged in a group called “Trigger Me Timbers”, which Gwynne, the MP for Gorton & Denton in England’s north-west, was a member of, along with more than a dozen Labour councillors, party officials and at least one other MP, all based near Manchester.

In a statement following the revelations, reported by the Mail on Sunday, Prime Minister Keir Starmer said he had dismissed Gwynne as a health minister, and the Labour Party announced he had been suspended as a member.

In one message, Gwynne said he hoped a 72-year-old woman would soon be dead after she contacted local representatives about her bins.

The Stockport resident wrote to her local councillor saying she had not voted Labour, but added: “As you have been re-elected, I thought it would be an appropriate time to contact you with regard to the bin collections.”

After the councillor shared the letter among fellow Labour figures in the WhatsApp group, Gwynne wrote a suggested response: “Dear resident, F—- your bins. I’m re-elected and without your vote. Screw you. PS: Hopefully you’ll have croaked it by the all-outs.”

“All-outs” are elections at which every council seat is contested at once, in contrast to local authorities in which only a third of seats are up for grabs at each poll.

Among the other messages reported by the newspaper from the WhatsApp group is one from Gwynne saying someone “sounds too Jewish” and “too militaristic”, apparently from their name alone.

The newspaper also reported racist comments about the veteran Labour MP Diane Abbott, mocking her historic achievement in becoming the first black MP at the despatch box for Prime Minister’s Questions, and misogynist comments about Angela Rayner, the deputy prime minister, performing a sex act.

In 2018, Gwynne made headlines when it was revealed he was in a Facebook group called Labour Supporters, in which antisemitic messages were shared. At the time, he said he had been added to the group without his knowledge or permission.

A government spokesman said Starmer was determined to uphold high standards of conduct in public office and lead a government in the service of working people.

“He will not hesitate to take action against any minister who fails to meet these standards, as he has in this case,” a statement said.

On Saturday evening, Gwynne wrote on X: “I deeply regret my badly misjudged comments and apologise for any offence I’ve caused.

“I entirely understand the decisions the PM and the party have taken and, while very sad to have been suspended, will support them in any way I can.”

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/uk-health-minister-sacked-after-wishing-for-elderly-constituent-s-death-20250209-p5lamf.html

Witty Rejoinder said:

UK health minister sacked after wishing for elderly constituent’s death

By Rob Harris
February 9, 2025 — 9.23am

London: Britain’s health minister has been sacked after exchanging racist and sexist messages, including one saying he hoped a pensioner who did not vote Labour would die before the next election.

Andrew Gwynne, who has been an MP for 20 years, also made antisemitic remarks and joked about a constituent being “mown down” by a truck in a WhatsApp group with colleagues.

The messages were reportedly exchanged in a group called “Trigger Me Timbers”, which Gwynne, the MP for Gorton & Denton in England’s north-west, was a member of, along with more than a dozen Labour councillors, party officials and at least one other MP, all based near Manchester.

In a statement following the revelations, reported by the Mail on Sunday, Prime Minister Keir Starmer said he had dismissed Gwynne as a health minister, and the Labour Party announced he had been suspended as a member.

In one message, Gwynne said he hoped a 72-year-old woman would soon be dead after she contacted local representatives about her bins.

The Stockport resident wrote to her local councillor saying she had not voted Labour, but added: “As you have been re-elected, I thought it would be an appropriate time to contact you with regard to the bin collections.”

After the councillor shared the letter among fellow Labour figures in the WhatsApp group, Gwynne wrote a suggested response: “Dear resident, F—- your bins. I’m re-elected and without your vote. Screw you. PS: Hopefully you’ll have croaked it by the all-outs.”

“All-outs” are elections at which every council seat is contested at once, in contrast to local authorities in which only a third of seats are up for grabs at each poll.

Among the other messages reported by the newspaper from the WhatsApp group is one from Gwynne saying someone “sounds too Jewish” and “too militaristic”, apparently from their name alone.

The newspaper also reported racist comments about the veteran Labour MP Diane Abbott, mocking her historic achievement in becoming the first black MP at the despatch box for Prime Minister’s Questions, and misogynist comments about Angela Rayner, the deputy prime minister, performing a sex act.

In 2018, Gwynne made headlines when it was revealed he was in a Facebook group called Labour Supporters, in which antisemitic messages were shared. At the time, he said he had been added to the group without his knowledge or permission.

A government spokesman said Starmer was determined to uphold high standards of conduct in public office and lead a government in the service of working people.

“He will not hesitate to take action against any minister who fails to meet these standards, as he has in this case,” a statement said.

On Saturday evening, Gwynne wrote on X: “I deeply regret my badly misjudged comments and apologise for any offence I’ve caused.

“I entirely understand the decisions the PM and the party have taken and, while very sad to have been suspended, will support them in any way I can.”

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/uk-health-minister-sacked-after-wishing-for-elderly-constituent-s-death-20250209-p5lamf.html

Labour needs a more effective moron filter.

Bubblecar said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

UK health minister sacked after wishing for elderly constituent’s death

By Rob Harris
February 9, 2025 — 9.23am

London: Britain’s health minister has been sacked after exchanging racist and sexist messages, including one saying he hoped a pensioner who did not vote Labour would die before the next election.

Andrew Gwynne, who has been an MP for 20 years, also made antisemitic remarks and joked about a constituent being “mown down” by a truck in a WhatsApp group with colleagues.

The messages were reportedly exchanged in a group called “Trigger Me Timbers”, which Gwynne, the MP for Gorton & Denton in England’s north-west, was a member of, along with more than a dozen Labour councillors, party officials and at least one other MP, all based near Manchester.

In a statement following the revelations, reported by the Mail on Sunday, Prime Minister Keir Starmer said he had dismissed Gwynne as a health minister, and the Labour Party announced he had been suspended as a member.

In one message, Gwynne said he hoped a 72-year-old woman would soon be dead after she contacted local representatives about her bins.

The Stockport resident wrote to her local councillor saying she had not voted Labour, but added: “As you have been re-elected, I thought it would be an appropriate time to contact you with regard to the bin collections.”

After the councillor shared the letter among fellow Labour figures in the WhatsApp group, Gwynne wrote a suggested response: “Dear resident, F—- your bins. I’m re-elected and without your vote. Screw you. PS: Hopefully you’ll have croaked it by the all-outs.”

“All-outs” are elections at which every council seat is contested at once, in contrast to local authorities in which only a third of seats are up for grabs at each poll.

Among the other messages reported by the newspaper from the WhatsApp group is one from Gwynne saying someone “sounds too Jewish” and “too militaristic”, apparently from their name alone.

The newspaper also reported racist comments about the veteran Labour MP Diane Abbott, mocking her historic achievement in becoming the first black MP at the despatch box for Prime Minister’s Questions, and misogynist comments about Angela Rayner, the deputy prime minister, performing a sex act.

In 2018, Gwynne made headlines when it was revealed he was in a Facebook group called Labour Supporters, in which antisemitic messages were shared. At the time, he said he had been added to the group without his knowledge or permission.

A government spokesman said Starmer was determined to uphold high standards of conduct in public office and lead a government in the service of working people.

“He will not hesitate to take action against any minister who fails to meet these standards, as he has in this case,” a statement said.

On Saturday evening, Gwynne wrote on X: “I deeply regret my badly misjudged comments and apologise for any offence I’ve caused.

“I entirely understand the decisions the PM and the party have taken and, while very sad to have been suspended, will support them in any way I can.”

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/uk-health-minister-sacked-after-wishing-for-elderly-constituent-s-death-20250209-p5lamf.html

Labour needs a more effective moron filter.

ah this must be the same clown that told people that particles floating on the air aren’t airborne

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

UK health minister sacked after wishing for elderly constituent’s death

By Rob Harris
February 9, 2025 — 9.23am

London: Britain’s health minister has been sacked after exchanging racist and sexist messages, including one saying he hoped a pensioner who did not vote Labour would die before the next election.

Andrew Gwynne, who has been an MP for 20 years, also made antisemitic remarks and joked about a constituent being “mown down” by a truck in a WhatsApp group with colleagues.

The messages were reportedly exchanged in a group called “Trigger Me Timbers”, which Gwynne, the MP for Gorton & Denton in England’s north-west, was a member of, along with more than a dozen Labour councillors, party officials and at least one other MP, all based near Manchester.

In a statement following the revelations, reported by the Mail on Sunday, Prime Minister Keir Starmer said he had dismissed Gwynne as a health minister, and the Labour Party announced he had been suspended as a member.

In one message, Gwynne said he hoped a 72-year-old woman would soon be dead after she contacted local representatives about her bins.

The Stockport resident wrote to her local councillor saying she had not voted Labour, but added: “As you have been re-elected, I thought it would be an appropriate time to contact you with regard to the bin collections.”

After the councillor shared the letter among fellow Labour figures in the WhatsApp group, Gwynne wrote a suggested response: “Dear resident, F—- your bins. I’m re-elected and without your vote. Screw you. PS: Hopefully you’ll have croaked it by the all-outs.”

“All-outs” are elections at which every council seat is contested at once, in contrast to local authorities in which only a third of seats are up for grabs at each poll.

Among the other messages reported by the newspaper from the WhatsApp group is one from Gwynne saying someone “sounds too Jewish” and “too militaristic”, apparently from their name alone.

The newspaper also reported racist comments about the veteran Labour MP Diane Abbott, mocking her historic achievement in becoming the first black MP at the despatch box for Prime Minister’s Questions, and misogynist comments about Angela Rayner, the deputy prime minister, performing a sex act.

In 2018, Gwynne made headlines when it was revealed he was in a Facebook group called Labour Supporters, in which antisemitic messages were shared. At the time, he said he had been added to the group without his knowledge or permission.

A government spokesman said Starmer was determined to uphold high standards of conduct in public office and lead a government in the service of working people.

“He will not hesitate to take action against any minister who fails to meet these standards, as he has in this case,” a statement said.

On Saturday evening, Gwynne wrote on X: “I deeply regret my badly misjudged comments and apologise for any offence I’ve caused.

“I entirely understand the decisions the PM and the party have taken and, while very sad to have been suspended, will support them in any way I can.”

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/uk-health-minister-sacked-after-wishing-for-elderly-constituent-s-death-20250209-p5lamf.html

Labour needs a more effective moron filter.

ah this must be the same clown that told people that particles floating on the air aren’t airborne

Make no mistake the Chap will have the blighter straight to lunch, no mucking around.

Peak Warming Man said:

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Labour needs a more effective moron filter.

ah this must be the same clown that told people that particles floating on the air aren’t airborne

Make no mistake the Chap will have the blighter straight to lunch, no mucking around.

The Corbyn Chap, Yeah This Is All Jemmy’s Fault, The Ante-Semitic Bastard

Jeremy Clarkson Says He Cannot Be Friends With Anyone Who Voted For Brexit
“If I encounter someone who still thinks it was all a brilliant idea, I get so cross my hair catches fire.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-clarkson-unwilling-to-befriend-brexit-voters_uk_67a9cddfe4b0bd527af2ee7e

“It’s not so bad if they put their hands up and admit they made a mistake. But if I encounter someone who still thinks it was all a brilliant idea, I get so cross my hair catches fire and my teeth start to itch.”

dv said:

Jeremy Clarkson Says He Cannot Be Friends With Anyone Who Voted For Brexit
“If I encounter someone who still thinks it was all a brilliant idea, I get so cross my hair catches fire.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-clarkson-unwilling-to-befriend-brexit-voters_uk_67a9cddfe4b0bd527af2ee7e

“It’s not so bad if they put their hands up and admit they made a mistake. But if I encounter someone who still thinks it was all a brilliant idea, I get so cross my hair catches fire and my teeth start to itch.”

It’d only be a small fire.

dv said:

Jeremy Clarkson Says He Cannot Be Friends With Anyone Who Voted For Brexit
“If I encounter someone who still thinks it was all a brilliant idea, I get so cross my hair catches fire.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-clarkson-unwilling-to-befriend-brexit-voters_uk_67a9cddfe4b0bd527af2ee7e

“It’s not so bad if they put their hands up and admit they made a mistake. But if I encounter someone who still thinks it was all a brilliant idea, I get so cross my hair catches fire and my teeth start to itch.”

wow, clarkson coming out with something sensible.

Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

Jeremy Clarkson Says He Cannot Be Friends With Anyone Who Voted For Brexit
“If I encounter someone who still thinks it was all a brilliant idea, I get so cross my hair catches fire.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-clarkson-unwilling-to-befriend-brexit-voters_uk_67a9cddfe4b0bd527af2ee7e

“It’s not so bad if they put their hands up and admit they made a mistake. But if I encounter someone who still thinks it was all a brilliant idea, I get so cross my hair catches fire and my teeth start to itch.”

wow, clarkson coming out with something sensible.

Yes, bit of a worry that.

oh

While a solid majority of Britons now regard Brexit as having been a mistake, I don’t have any polling since January. It would not surprise me if the % ticks up in the next survey due to recent events.

A petition to force parliament to debate the topic of rejoining the EU has received the required number of signatures, and the debate will take place on 24 March.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700005
Petition
Apply for the UK to join the European Union as a full member as soon as possible

—-

During the 2024 election campaign, Labour explicitly promised not to revisit Brexit during this term.

This petition was first commenced last November and the Cabinet Office gave a response confirming that they were committed to their election manifesto but would be seeking ways to better integrate with the EU.

However, things have ticked along a bit since November and indeed just in the last few weeks. The importance of European unity may loom larger in the minds of the populace and poltiicians. It would be hard for Labour to u-turn on this without a national consensus ie without support from the Opposition. There will be SNP and LibDem voices in favour of rejoining, as well as some in Labour.

dv said:

While a solid majority of Britons now regard Brexit as having been a mistake, I don’t have any polling since January. It would not surprise me if the % ticks up in the next survey due to recent events.

A petition to force parliament to debate the topic of rejoining the EU has received the required number of signatures, and the debate will take place on 24 March.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700005
Petition
Apply for the UK to join the European Union as a full member as soon as possible

—-

During the 2024 election campaign, Labour explicitly promised not to revisit Brexit during this term.

This petition was first commenced last November and the Cabinet Office gave a response confirming that they were committed to their election manifesto but would be seeking ways to better integrate with the EU.

However, things have ticked along a bit since November and indeed just in the last few weeks. The importance of European unity may loom larger in the minds of the populace and poltiicians. It would be hard for Labour to u-turn on this without a national consensus ie without support from the Opposition. There will be SNP and LibDem voices in favour of rejoining, as well as some in Labour.

The EU have said that the brits returning may not be that easy. But perhaps Trump is making it easier.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

While a solid majority of Britons now regard Brexit as having been a mistake, I don’t have any polling since January. It would not surprise me if the % ticks up in the next survey due to recent events.

A petition to force parliament to debate the topic of rejoining the EU has received the required number of signatures, and the debate will take place on 24 March.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700005
Petition
Apply for the UK to join the European Union as a full member as soon as possible

—-

During the 2024 election campaign, Labour explicitly promised not to revisit Brexit during this term.

This petition was first commenced last November and the Cabinet Office gave a response confirming that they were committed to their election manifesto but would be seeking ways to better integrate with the EU.

However, things have ticked along a bit since November and indeed just in the last few weeks. The importance of European unity may loom larger in the minds of the populace and poltiicians. It would be hard for Labour to u-turn on this without a national consensus ie without support from the Opposition. There will be SNP and LibDem voices in favour of rejoining, as well as some in Labour.

The EU have said that the brits returning may not be that easy. But perhaps Trump is making it easier.

what would be meaningful but uninformative is a chart of “in foresight, do you think Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave the European Union” but they’ll never show it

alleged

SCIENCE said:

alleged

Some of those look a bit dubious.

For Instance the Internet tells me that Britain never invaded Brazil.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

Some of those look a bit dubious.

For Instance the Internet tells me that Britain never invaded Brazil.

The Welsh invaded Argentina.

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

Some of those look a bit dubious.

For Instance the Internet tells me that Britain never invaded Brazil.

The Welsh invaded Argentina.

Portugal invaded Brazil

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

Some of those look a bit dubious.

For Instance the Internet tells me that Britain never invaded Brazil.

The Welsh invaded Argentina.

From memory Welsh people settled in Patagonia, Argentina in 1865 to preserve their language and culture. Today, there is a Welsh-Argentine community in the Chubut Valley region.
Over.

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

Some of those look a bit dubious.

For Instance the Internet tells me that Britain never invaded Brazil.

The Welsh invaded Argentina.

Didn’t know that.

But from a quick check I’m not sure I’d call the emigration of Welsh people to Argentina a “British Invasion”.

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Some of those look a bit dubious.

For Instance the Internet tells me that Britain never invaded Brazil.

The Welsh invaded Argentina.

From memory Welsh people settled in Patagonia, Argentina in 1865 to preserve their language and culture. Today, there is a Welsh-Argentine community in the Chubut Valley region.
Over.

It’s all coming back to me now, Y Wladfa (Welsh pronunciation: , ‘The Colony’), also occasionally Y Wladychfa Gymreig (Welsh pronunciation: , ‘The Welsh Settlement’), refers to the establishment of settlements by Welsh colonists and immigrants in the Argentine Patagonia, beginning in 1865, mainly along the coast of the lower Chubut Valley. In 1881, the area became part of the Chubut National Territory of Argentina which, in 1955, became Chubut Province.

Over.

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The Welsh invaded Argentina.

From memory Welsh people settled in Patagonia, Argentina in 1865 to preserve their language and culture. Today, there is a Welsh-Argentine community in the Chubut Valley region.
Over.

It’s all coming back to me now, Y Wladfa (Welsh pronunciation: , ‘The Colony’), also occasionally Y Wladychfa Gymreig (Welsh pronunciation: , ‘The Welsh Settlement’), refers to the establishment of settlements by Welsh colonists and immigrants in the Argentine Patagonia, beginning in 1865, mainly along the coast of the lower Chubut Valley. In 1881, the area became part of the Chubut National Territory of Argentina which, in 1955, became Chubut Province.

Over.

A mixed indigenous-Welsh couple in nineteenth-century Patagonia.

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The Welsh invaded Argentina.

From memory Welsh people settled in Patagonia, Argentina in 1865 to preserve their language and culture. Today, there is a Welsh-Argentine community in the Chubut Valley region.
Over.

It’s all coming back to me now, Y Wladfa (Welsh pronunciation: , ‘The Colony’), also occasionally Y Wladychfa Gymreig (Welsh pronunciation: , ‘The Welsh Settlement’), refers to the establishment of settlements by Welsh colonists and immigrants in the Argentine Patagonia, beginning in 1865, mainly along the coast of the lower Chubut Valley. In 1881, the area became part of the Chubut National Territory of Argentina which, in 1955, became Chubut Province.

Over.

:)

There must’ve been something about South America – let us not forget the “New Australia” settlement in Paraguay during the 1800s…

dv said:

Goodo.

dv said:

Good.

Michael V said:

dv said:

Good.

Oh yeah¿ Try this one on for size then.

New Zealand sacks high commissioner to UK over comments critical of Trump

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-06/nz-sacks-ambassador-to-uk-for-questioning-trump/105017782

Former First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has spoken of her relief after it was confirmed she will face no action in the Police Scotland investigation into SNP finances. The announcement came as her estranged husband, ex-SNP chief executive Peter Murrell, appeared at Edinburgh Sheriff Court charged with embezzlement. Police also confirmed former SNP treasurer Colin Beattie was no longer under investigation.

good old kkk, helping claimed leftist governments all around the world through self sacrifice out of the goodness of their own hearts

As Mr Trump’s policies continue to divide both voters in the United States and the international community too, the British PM has seemingly been among the biggest beneficiaries. Despite winning a landslide general election victory in July last year, Mr Starmer has never been particularly popular among voters. Now, that’s changing.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-23/keir-starmer-polling-ukraine-us-russia-negotiations/105069030

good old kkk, helping claimed leftist governments all around the world through self sacrifice out of the goodness of their own hearts

As Mr Trump’s policies continue to divide both voters in the United States and the international community too, the British PM has seemingly been among the biggest beneficiaries. Despite winning a landslide general election victory in July last year, Mr Starmer has never been particularly popular among voters. Now, that’s changing.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-23/keir-starmer-polling-ukraine-us-russia-negotiations/105069030

There you see all you need is some Good Real Men With Guns and you’re safe¡

A tabloid reporter who happened to be walking by recognised Anne’s Rolls-Royce and tried to intervene. “Don’t be silly, old boy, put the gun down,” Brian McConnell said. Ball responded by shooting him in the chest. A police officer, Constable Michael Hills, then arrived at the scene and was shot in the stomach. Surrounded by blood, injured men and broken glass, Anne later told the police she wondered if she would have to fight Ball off herself. “It was all so infuriating; I kept saying I didn’t want to get out of the car, and I was not going to get out of the car,” she said.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-putin-trump-ukraine-b2717740.html

Mr Johnson’s contemptuous reaction to the outcome of the Trump – Putin talks was posted on social media platform X on Tuesday evening.

‘What a surprise – Putin rejects an unconditional ceasefire. He wants to keep bombing and killing innocent Ukrainians. He wants Ukraine disarmed. He wants Ukraine neutralised. He wants to make Ukraine a vassal state of Russia. He isn’t negotiating. He’s laughing at us,” he said.

dv said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-putin-trump-ukraine-b2717740.html

Mr Johnson’s contemptuous reaction to the outcome of the Trump – Putin talks was posted on social media platform X on Tuesday evening.

‘What a surprise – Putin rejects an unconditional ceasefire. He wants to keep bombing and killing innocent Ukrainians. He wants Ukraine disarmed. He wants Ukraine neutralised. He wants to make Ukraine a vassal state of Russia. He isn’t negotiating. He’s laughing at us,” he said.

so how did the little foreign interfered manipulated brexit thing go then fellas

The chaps wont like that, wont like that at all.

Peak Warming Man said:

The chaps wont like that, wont like that at all.

They’d seen his face before, nobody was really sure

The Rev Dodgson said:

Then you’ll be targetted by the Trumpian oligarchs.

The Rev Dodgson said:

The chaps won’t like that, it won’t do at all.

see all yous millennials are fucking around on Signal or whateverthefuck it is these days but

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyjed2038ko

good old UK shows you how it’s done the old fascioned way

Um

dv said:

Um

https://youtu.be/AmKIa9dWI8E?si=mcfuWBrwpc-rcjkQ

Operation Clockwork Orange: the coup plot against Prime Minister Wilson.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/04/russell-brand-charged?CMP=soc_567

Russell Brand charged with rape and sexual assault

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/04/russell-brand-charged?CMP=soc_567

Russell Brand charged with rape and sexual assault

shocking

LOL

https://www.bma.org.uk/media/p13leadh/20250208-bma-reporting-portal-submissions-v3.pdf

In November 2023 the BMA established a reporting portal for doctors and medical students to share concerns regarding the deployment of physician and anaesthesia associates in both primary and secondary care. When submitting a concern, the BMA was clear that incidents should additionally be reported through formal mechanisms. This report includes all submissions received by February 2025 that concern patient safety.

https://www.banburyguardian.co.uk/news/people/reform-uk-candidate-for-banbury-suspended-for-defending-jimmy-savile-5070151

Reform UK candidate for the Oxfordshire local elections has claimed that Jimmy Savile was an “innocent man” and a “working class hero” as well as being his “role model”.

Stephen Hartley, who is standing for the Banbury Hardwick division in the upcoming county council elections, has received a huge backlash for showing support for the prolific abuser who died in 2011.

Mr Hartley previously ran as the Reform UK candidate for Banbury Hardwick in the 2021 county council elections and Cherwell District Council elections.

In April 2022, he said on X: “The established elite don’t like a self-made man, a working class hero. Saville was one, Putin is another. So they make up horrible lies about them and let the media do the rest.”

dv said:

https://www.banburyguardian.co.uk/news/people/reform-uk-candidate-for-banbury-suspended-for-defending-jimmy-savile-5070151

Reform UK candidate for the Oxfordshire local elections has claimed that Jimmy Savile was an “innocent man” and a “working class hero” as well as being his “role model”.

Stephen Hartley, who is standing for the Banbury Hardwick division in the upcoming county council elections, has received a huge backlash for showing support for the prolific abuser who died in 2011.

Mr Hartley previously ran as the Reform UK candidate for Banbury Hardwick in the 2021 county council elections and Cherwell District Council elections.

In April 2022, he said on X: “The established elite don’t like a self-made man, a working class hero. Saville was one, Putin is another. So they make up horrible lies about them and let the media do the rest.”

He’s been suspended from the party, which is something I suppose.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

https://www.banburyguardian.co.uk/news/people/reform-uk-candidate-for-banbury-suspended-for-defending-jimmy-savile-5070151

Reform UK candidate for the Oxfordshire local elections has claimed that Jimmy Savile was an “innocent man” and a “working class hero” as well as being his “role model”.

Stephen Hartley, who is standing for the Banbury Hardwick division in the upcoming county council elections, has received a huge backlash for showing support for the prolific abuser who died in 2011.

Mr Hartley previously ran as the Reform UK candidate for Banbury Hardwick in the 2021 county council elections and Cherwell District Council elections.

In April 2022, he said on X: “The established elite don’t like a self-made man, a working class hero. Saville was one, Putin is another. So they make up horrible lies about them and let the media do the rest.”

He’s been suspended from the party, which is something I suppose.

Kind of weird that they didn’t do a Google before nominating him as a candidate. This wasn’t exactly hidden info.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

https://www.banburyguardian.co.uk/news/people/reform-uk-candidate-for-banbury-suspended-for-defending-jimmy-savile-5070151

Reform UK candidate for the Oxfordshire local elections has claimed that Jimmy Savile was an “innocent man” and a “working class hero” as well as being his “role model”.

Stephen Hartley, who is standing for the Banbury Hardwick division in the upcoming county council elections, has received a huge backlash for showing support for the prolific abuser who died in 2011.

Mr Hartley previously ran as the Reform UK candidate for Banbury Hardwick in the 2021 county council elections and Cherwell District Council elections.

In April 2022, he said on X: “The established elite don’t like a self-made man, a working class hero. Saville was one, Putin is another. So they make up horrible lies about them and let the media do the rest.”

He’s been suspended from the party, which is something I suppose.

Must be a really complete and utter dickhead to be suspended from that party.

conscription soon

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-11/uk-conscription-has-people-talking-after-mps-comments/105136050

LOL

UK Parliament in a urgent recall from the traditional Easter recess to debate nationalisation of the British steel industry.

Interesting. Something must be afoot with bankruptcies in the works…

party_pants said:

UK Parliament in a urgent recall from the traditional Easter recess to debate nationalisation of the British steel industry.

Interesting. Something must be afoot with bankruptcies in the works…

The Chaps will sort it.

definitely no external effects

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/apr/14/librarians-in-uk-increasingly-asked-to-remove-books-as-influence-of-us-pressure-groups-spreads

SCIENCE said:

definitely no external effects

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/apr/14/librarians-in-uk-increasingly-asked-to-remove-books-as-influence-of-us-pressure-groups-spreads

FMD

British conservative intellectual Darren Grimes. Not satire.

dv said:

British conservative intellectual Darren Grimes. Not satire.

Bad habit to have

dv said:

British conservative intellectual Darren Grimes. Not satire.

Had a read of his TATE article.

Seems quite ad-Vanced.

dv said:

British conservative intellectual Darren Grimes. Not satire.

‘ken loud-mouthed eedjot.

Cymek said:

dv said:

British conservative intellectual Darren Grimes. Not satire.

Bad habit to have

nice

Local elections in much of England tomorrow.

Labour and the LibDems are expected to retain about as many positions as they have now but the Conservatives may lose 500 or so councillors to Reform.

UK’s Ministry of Defence has confirmed that the RAF’s Typhoon fighters have been used to attack targets in Yemen associated with Houthi rebels. The rebels have been interfering with shipping through the Red Sea.
This is the first time the UK and US have cooperated in such strikes since 2023.

dv said:

UK’s Ministry of Defence has confirmed that the RAF’s Typhoon fighters have been used to attack targets in Yemen associated with Houthi rebels. The rebels have been interfering with shipping through the Red Sea.
This is the first time the UK and US have cooperated in such strikes since 2023.

The Chap will sort em those houtherieries don’t like cold steel up em.

Several other councils have since fallen to Reform in many different parts of the country, including Durham, Kent, Lancashire and Lincolnshire.
Tory leader Kemi Badenoch sent her ‘sincerest commiserations’ to councillors who lost their seats, as a grim afternoon for her party began to play out.
Meanwhile, Keir Starmer has said Labour’s shock by-election defeat to Reform in Cheshire is ‘disappointing’ but his government will go ‘further and faster’.

I don’t like the bloke, but his party is making waves.

Reform and LibDems have become the two major parties in local government councillor positions in England following these local elections.
Conservatives have lost 676 seats, Labour have lost 186.

dv said:

Reform and LibDems have become the two major parties in local government councillor positions in England following these local elections.
Conservatives have lost 676 seats, Labour have lost 186.

What a disaster for Reform. Now they’ll have to stop shouting and actually do something constructive.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Reform and LibDems have become the two major parties in local government councillor positions in England following these local elections.
Conservatives have lost 676 seats, Labour have lost 186.

What a disaster for Reform. Now they’ll have to stop shouting and actually do something constructive.

Well, the first hing to do is to complain long and loud about the utter shambles that you’ve inherited from the previous incumbents, and announce (with much regret) that it’s going to take ages to put right again, and that the platform that you’ve been aching to put into effect will, sadly, have to be delayed.

Was looking at the results from the local elections and holy shit, how is this not a bigger story. Reform completely smashed the Tories and the Labs. The betting markets have Reform as equal odds with the Labs to form government at the next national elections.

Was looking at the results from the local elections and holy shit, how is this not a bigger story. Reform completely smashed the Tories and the Labs. The betting markets have Reform as equal odds with the Labs to form government at the next national elections.

diddly-squat said:

Was looking at the results from the local elections and holy shit, how is this not a bigger story. Reform completely smashed the Tories and the Labs. The betting markets have Reform as equal odds with the Labs to form government at the next national elections.

Nigel Farage is a clown and nothing good will come from him.

Peak Warming Man said:

diddly-squat said:

Was looking at the results from the local elections and holy shit, how is this not a bigger story. Reform completely smashed the Tories and the Labs. The betting markets have Reform as equal odds with the Labs to form government at the next national elections.

Nigel Farage is a clown and nothing good will come from him.

Lettuce pray

Peak Warming Man said:

diddly-squat said:

Was looking at the results from the local elections and holy shit, how is this not a bigger story. Reform completely smashed the Tories and the Labs. The betting markets have Reform as equal odds with the Labs to form government at the next national elections.

Nigel Farage is a clown and nothing good will come from him.

What about balloon animals ?

wait so are we saying it’s better to have the fascists who want power over money for themselves than to have the conservatives who want money over power for themselves to balance out the right wing so called labour advocates nice ahaha good stuff

BBC The Interview, the Tory fascist John Major.
https://www.bbc.com/audio/play/w3ct7wzj

good news when they actually start using national socialist associated ideas as terms of endearment yous know they’ve won

Police have been issued guidance on how to search women’s homes for abortion drugs and check their phones for menstrual cycle tracking apps after unexpected pregnancy loss.

New guidance from the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) on “child death investigation” advises officers to search for “drugs that can terminate pregnancy” in cases involving stillbirths. The NPCC, which sets strategic direction for policing across the country UK, also suggests a woman’s digital devices could be seized to help investigators “establish a woman’s knowledge and intention in relation to the pregnancy”. That could include checking a woman’s internet searches, messages to friends and family, and health apps, “such as menstrual cycle and fertility trackers”, it states.

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/police-could-search-homes-and-seize-phones-after-sudden-pregnancy-loss

Divine Angel said:

Police have been issued guidance on how to search women’s homes for abortion drugs and check their phones for menstrual cycle tracking apps after unexpected pregnancy loss.

New guidance from the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) on “child death investigation” advises officers to search for “drugs that can terminate pregnancy” in cases involving stillbirths. The NPCC, which sets strategic direction for policing across the country UK, also suggests a woman’s digital devices could be seized to help investigators “establish a woman’s knowledge and intention in relation to the pregnancy”. That could include checking a woman’s internet searches, messages to friends and family, and health apps, “such as menstrual cycle and fertility trackers”, it states.

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/police-could-search-homes-and-seize-phones-after-sudden-pregnancy-loss

Shakes fist at Nazi UK

Divine Angel said:

Police have been issued guidance on how to search women’s homes for abortion drugs and check their phones for menstrual cycle tracking apps after unexpected pregnancy loss.

New guidance from the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) on “child death investigation” advises officers to search for “drugs that can terminate pregnancy” in cases involving stillbirths. The NPCC, which sets strategic direction for policing across the country UK, also suggests a woman’s digital devices could be seized to help investigators “establish a woman’s knowledge and intention in relation to the pregnancy”. That could include checking a woman’s internet searches, messages to friends and family, and health apps, “such as menstrual cycle and fertility trackers”, it states.

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/police-could-search-homes-and-seize-phones-after-sudden-pregnancy-loss

WTAF?

Divine Angel said:

Police have been issued guidance on how to search women’s homes for abortion drugs and check their phones for menstrual cycle tracking apps after unexpected pregnancy loss.

New guidance from the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) on “child death investigation” advises officers to search for “drugs that can terminate pregnancy” in cases involving stillbirths. The NPCC, which sets strategic direction for policing across the country UK, also suggests a woman’s digital devices could be seized to help investigators “establish a woman’s knowledge and intention in relation to the pregnancy”. That could include checking a woman’s internet searches, messages to friends and family, and health apps, “such as menstrual cycle and fertility trackers”, it states.

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/police-could-search-homes-and-seize-phones-after-sudden-pregnancy-loss

1 in 4 pregnancies ending miscarriages. They are going to be checking a lot of homes.

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Police have been issued guidance on how to search women’s homes for abortion drugs and check their phones for menstrual cycle tracking apps after unexpected pregnancy loss.

New guidance from the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) on “child death investigation” advises officers to search for “drugs that can terminate pregnancy” in cases involving stillbirths. The NPCC, which sets strategic direction for policing across the country UK, also suggests a woman’s digital devices could be seized to help investigators “establish a woman’s knowledge and intention in relation to the pregnancy”. That could include checking a woman’s internet searches, messages to friends and family, and health apps, “such as menstrual cycle and fertility trackers”, it states.

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/police-could-search-homes-and-seize-phones-after-sudden-pregnancy-loss

WTAF?

Tory Great Reform Greater

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Police have been issued guidance on how to search women’s homes for abortion drugs and check their phones for menstrual cycle tracking apps after unexpected pregnancy loss.

New guidance from the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) on “child death investigation” advises officers to search for “drugs that can terminate pregnancy” in cases involving stillbirths. The NPCC, which sets strategic direction for policing across the country UK, also suggests a woman’s digital devices could be seized to help investigators “establish a woman’s knowledge and intention in relation to the pregnancy”. That could include checking a woman’s internet searches, messages to friends and family, and health apps, “such as menstrual cycle and fertility trackers”, it states.

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/police-could-search-homes-and-seize-phones-after-sudden-pregnancy-loss

WTAF?

Tory Great Reform Greater

The Chaps onto them, make no mistake.

UK, US, whatever.

Imagine distancing your brother for rape and ties with Epstein, to inviting another rapist with ties to Epstein around for scones and tea.

(Steve Biddulph is an author specialising in raising boys to be decent humans.)

Divine Angel said:

UK, US, whatever.

Imagine distancing your brother for rape and ties with Epstein, to inviting another rapist with ties to Epstein around for scones and tea.

(Steve Biddulph is an author specialising in raising boys to be decent humans.)

Well done Steve.

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

UK, US, whatever.

Imagine distancing your brother for rape and ties with Epstein, to inviting another rapist with ties to Epstein around for scones and tea.

(Steve Biddulph is an author specialising in raising boys to be decent humans.)

Well done Steve.

Nods. It has to be said. Over and over. If the world rejects the man then the US may begin to become more aware of his shortcomings.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

UK, US, whatever.

Imagine distancing your brother for rape and ties with Epstein, to inviting another rapist with ties to Epstein around for scones and tea.

(Steve Biddulph is an author specialising in raising boys to be decent humans.)

Well done Steve.

Nods. It has to be said. Over and over. If the world rejects the man then the US may begin to become more aware of his shortcomings.

what if they’re meeting as heads of state

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

UK, US, whatever.

Imagine distancing your brother for rape and ties with Epstein, to inviting another rapist with ties to Epstein around for scones and tea.

(Steve Biddulph is an author specialising in raising boys to be decent humans.)

Well done Steve.

Nods. It has to be said. Over and over. If the world rejects the man then the US may begin to become more aware of his shortcomings.

The majority of Americans are very aware of how vile he is, and have been for many, many years. There is huge pushback across the country.

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Well done Steve.

Nods. It has to be said. Over and over. If the world rejects the man then the US may begin to become more aware of his shortcomings.

what if they’re meeting as heads of state

I mean the rotw could just boycott the US until they get their shit together.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

UK, US, whatever.

Imagine distancing your brother for rape and ties with Epstein, to inviting another rapist with ties to Epstein around for scones and tea.

(Steve Biddulph is an author specialising in raising boys to be decent humans.)

Well done Steve.

Nods. It has to be said. Over and over. If the world rejects the man then the US may begin to become more aware of his shortcomings.

If the world rejects the behaviour then the US (and people in general) may begin to become aware of shortcomings.
Nice work Steve

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Well done Steve.

Nods. It has to be said. Over and over. If the world rejects the man then the US may begin to become more aware of his shortcomings.

The majority of Americans are very aware of how vile he is, and have been for many, many years. There is huge pushback across the country.

Good.

I hate it when he’s right

Police said a “53-year-old white British man from the Liverpool area” had been arrested.

SCIENCE said:

Police said a “53-year-old white British man from the Liverpool area” had been arrested.

Police said the incident was not being treated as terrorism and that “extensive inquiries” were ongoing.

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Police said a “53-year-old white British man from the Liverpool area” had been arrested.

Police said the incident was not being treated as terrorism and that “extensive inquiries” were ongoing.

Is it possible he had a health issue?

Excerpt from the autobiography of Nigel Farage, Flying Free, available from Google books.

And not, as you may have thought, a particularly parodic except from Jeeves and Wooster.

dv said:

Excerpt from the autobiography of Nigel Farage, Flying Free, available from Google books.

And not, as you may have thought, a particularly parodic excerpt from Jeeves and Wooster.

PWM will have something more to say about The Chaps in due course.

dv said:

Excerpt from the autobiography of Nigel Farage, Flying Free, available from Google books.

And not, as you may have thought, a particularly parodic except from Jeeves and Wooster.

What a wanker.

And you can’t start before we’re ready.

Peak Warming Man said:

And you can’t start before we’re ready.

The traditional reply to that is “Coming ready or not”

Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And you can’t start before we’re ready.

The traditional reply to that is “Coming ready or not”

They found a body in an old building they were pulling down, it turned out to be the 1948 Hide and Seek champion.

The Chap is going to build 12 new nuclear submarines and refurbish their nuclear warheads.

Peak Warming Man said:

The Chap is going to build 12 new nuclear submarines and refurbish their nuclear warheads.

He’s a very busy man and he should probably just contract that work out

Peak Warming Man said:

The Chap is going to build 12 new nuclear submarines and refurbish their nuclear warheads.

good news for usukau

They’ll have electricity coming out of their freckle soon, the Chap will see to that.

>>Starmer’s embarrassing gaffe at G7 summit: PM shakes hand of interpreter… rather than president

Easy mistake for a Chap to make, those Asians all look the same.

Sleeper Drone Agent Unit Attacks British Air Force Assets

SCIENCE said:

Sleeper Drone Agent Unit Attacks British Air Force Assets

IDGI

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

Sleeper Drone Agent Unit Attacks British Air Force Assets

IDGI

a simple google image search would explain. here I have done it for you.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14832987/Campaign-group-Palestina-Action-banned-aircraft-RAF-Brize-Norton.html

Link

Good Lord, a commie socialist will never beat, a knight of the realm, one of the chaps.

Peak Warming Man said:

Good Lord, a commie socialist will never beat, a knight of the realm, one of the chaps.

The knight shouldn’t be on horseback as that is unfair.

A hammer and sickle armed peasant vs an armoured knight with at least one sword.

Yeah it would not be good for the commie chances

Peak Warming Man said:

Good Lord, a commie socialist will never beat, a knight of the realm, one of the chaps.

About time he hung up the megaphone and devoted his twilight years to the study of manhole covers.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Good Lord, a commie socialist will never beat, a knight of the realm, one of the chaps.

About time he hung up the megaphone and devoted his twilight years to the study of manhole covers.

The study of Kotex.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Good Lord, a commie socialist will never beat, a knight of the realm, one of the chaps.

About time he hung up the megaphone and devoted his twilight years to the study of manhole covers.

From the underside…

The UK is usually said to have no constitution.
The Act of Settlement, the Bill of Rights etc can reasonably be said to be the UK’s constitutive documents, but they are not entrenched in any way.
Unlike the former colonies, the UK operates under Parliamentary Sovereignty. Westminster is empowered to amend or repeal to AoS or BoR as easily as any other legislation.

For this reason, there’s never any real need to hold a referendum in the UK. Indeed there was no mechanism to hold referendums before the 1970s. Referendums are never needed to pass legislation, and the results of referendums are never binding, merely advisory. (They are more akin to what in Australia are called plebiscites.) At best, they can provide political cover for politicians who need excuses.

There have been three nationwide referendums in UK history.

The European Communities membership referendum (1975) was conducted because Labour had made such a referendum an election promise in 1974. The UK had already joined, and the question was about whether to remain. It was 67% for yes.

The Alternative Vote referendum of 2011 was held because PM Cameron had promised to do so as part of his agreement with the LibDems. Labour (stupidly) did not have an official position on this, and the result was 32% for yes.

And of course the Brexit referendum of 2016 you know about. There’s been much written about why PM Cameron decided to hold a Brexit referendum. He was a staunch Remainer but wanted to forestall complaints from Euroskeptic Tories and put an end to UKIP.
UKIP was of course for Leave. Labour, SNP, LibDems, Greens, PC were for Remain. Tory leadership was split: I strongly suspect that some such as Boris were cynically backing Leave while expecting a Remain result. Michael Bloomberg recently said that Brexit was “ the single stupidest thing any country had ever done”. It’s certainly up there.

dv said:

Fair comment.

dv said:

Yep, but the center right can’t rest on their laurels, there’s still the woke nutters to deal with.