Date: 15/01/2025 09:42:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2236964
Subject: On the nature of stupidity

Robert Greene talks about people and stupidity

The Nature of Human Stupidity

I have a question.

Do people of different groups handle lack of information differently?

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Date: 15/01/2025 09:46:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2236966
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

Tau.Neutrino said:


Robert Greene talks about people and stupidity

The Nature of Human Stupidity

I have a question.

Do people of different groups handle lack of information differently?

Yes and no.

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Date: 15/01/2025 09:58:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2236968
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Robert Greene talks about people and stupidity

The Nature of Human Stupidity

I have a question.

Do people of different groups handle lack of information differently?

Yes and no.

Are you certain about that.

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Date: 15/01/2025 09:59:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2236970
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

Peak Warming Man said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Robert Greene talks about people and stupidity

The Nature of Human Stupidity

I have a question.

Do people of different groups handle lack of information differently?

Yes and no.

Are you certain about that.

Yes and no.

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Date: 15/01/2025 09:59:21
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2236971
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Robert Greene talks about people and stupidity

The Nature of Human Stupidity

I have a question.

Do people of different groups handle lack of information differently?

Yes and no.

Some examples

Gangs leaders often come up with stupid ideas leading them to crime.

USA senator MTG lacks information she should have, ends up saying really stupid things.

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Date: 15/01/2025 10:07:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2236975
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

Tau.Neutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Robert Greene talks about people and stupidity

The Nature of Human Stupidity

I have a question.

Do people of different groups handle lack of information differently?

Yes and no.

Some examples

Gangs leaders often come up with stupid ideas leading them to crime.

USA senator MTG lacks information she should have, ends up saying really stupid things.

MTG is not stupid.

She plays to her selected audience. Back home in Georgia, there’s a lot of people who think that she’s doing a grand job, asking ‘the tough questions that others are afraid to ask’, and ‘making life difficult for the ‘fat cats’ in DC’, and stuff like that.

So, she cherry-picks from the information available, writes herself a little script around it, and play-acts it out for the benefit of the folks back home. All aimed at ensuring the continuation of her role as a Senator. Doesn’t matter what the facts are, it’s all about impressing the preferredaudience.

She has all the information. She just chooses to ignore a lot of it.

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Date: 15/01/2025 10:19:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2236978
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

captain_spalding said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes and no.

Some examples

Gangs leaders often come up with stupid ideas leading them to crime.

USA senator MTG lacks information she should have, ends up saying really stupid things.

MTG is not stupid.

She plays to her selected audience. Back home in Georgia, there’s a lot of people who think that she’s doing a grand job, asking ‘the tough questions that others are afraid to ask’, and ‘making life difficult for the ‘fat cats’ in DC’, and stuff like that.

So, she cherry-picks from the information available, writes herself a little script around it, and play-acts it out for the benefit of the folks back home. All aimed at ensuring the continuation of her role as a Senator. Doesn’t matter what the facts are, it’s all about impressing the preferredaudience.

She has all the information. She just chooses to ignore a lot of it.

we suppose one could be stupid yet clever enough to largely cover for it

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Date: 15/01/2025 10:27:08
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2236980
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

SCIENCE said:

we suppose one could be stupid yet clever enough to largely cover for it

Stupidity is like beauty, to an extent:it depends on the eye of the beholder.

To vast numbers of people, MTG looks quite stupid.

But, she doesn’t care about ‘vast numbers of people’. All she cares about are people who vote Georgia senators into office.

And there’s enough of them who think of her as a ‘good ol’ gal’ who’s doing a great job in Washington of being an honest voice from Georgia, for Georgia.

So, she does and says anything that will get her name in the national media, and remind those Georgia folks that she’s doing the job.

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Date: 15/01/2025 10:30:49
From: Tamb
ID: 2236982
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

we suppose one could be stupid yet clever enough to largely cover for it

Stupidity is like beauty, to an extent:it depends on the eye of the beholder.

To vast numbers of people, MTG looks quite stupid.

But, she doesn’t care about ‘vast numbers of people’. All she cares about are people who vote Georgia senators into office.

And there’s enough of them who think of her as a ‘good ol’ gal’ who’s doing a great job in Washington of being an honest voice from Georgia, for Georgia.

So, she does and says anything that will get her name in the national media, and remind those Georgia folks that she’s doing the job.

Like Joh Bjelke-Petersen.

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Date: 15/01/2025 11:16:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2237008
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

Tamb said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

we suppose one could be stupid yet clever enough to largely cover for it

Stupidity is like beauty, to an extent:it depends on the eye of the beholder.

To vast numbers of people, MTG looks quite stupid.

But, she doesn’t care about ‘vast numbers of people’. All she cares about are people who vote Georgia senators into office.

And there’s enough of them who think of her as a ‘good ol’ gal’ who’s doing a great job in Washington of being an honest voice from Georgia, for Georgia.

So, she does and says anything that will get her name in the national media, and remind those Georgia folks that she’s doing the job.

Like Joh Bjelke-Petersen.

Same method. The outrageousness distracts from the corruption.

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Date: 15/01/2025 11:26:00
From: Arts
ID: 2237011
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

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Date: 15/01/2025 11:33:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2237018
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

Arts said:



Well, when you put it like that…

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Date: 15/01/2025 11:39:01
From: dv
ID: 2237025
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques. This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

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Date: 15/01/2025 11:42:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2237028
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

dv said:


There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques. This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

back

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Date: 15/01/2025 11:42:34
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2237029
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

dv said:


There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques. This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

This is why the monarch’s head appears on so much of our own currency.

The king/queen turns out all those coins, and those fivers, in a shed down at the back of Windsor Castle, in their spare time, at their own expense, and generously donates them to us.

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Date: 15/01/2025 11:54:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2237032
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques. This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

This is why the monarch’s head appears on so much of our own currency.

The king/queen turns out all those coins, and those fivers, in a shed down at the back of Windsor Castle, in their spare time, at their own expense, and generously donates them to us.

at least with doggy coin it’s felon’s own money everyone’s getting

wait

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Date: 15/01/2025 11:58:13
From: party_pants
ID: 2237037
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

dv said:


There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques. This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

The thing that determine the wealth of modern industrialised nations: natural resources, human resources, energy and technology. Of these, human resources is the one you have most control over. So it seems self defeating to suppress education, even to just ignore the value of it. But there you go, millions of stupid people who seem to revel in it. The path to glory is the opposite way.

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Date: 15/01/2025 11:59:38
From: dv
ID: 2237038
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques. This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

This is why the monarch’s head appears on so much of our own currency.

The king/queen turns out all those coins, and those fivers, in a shed down at the back of Windsor Castle, in their spare time, at their own expense, and generously donates them to us.

at least with doggy coin it’s felon’s own money everyone’s getting

wait

I’m starting to think that isn’t the only thing crypto about him

https://tinyurl.com/j2zh5tyu

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Date: 15/01/2025 12:12:21
From: Michael V
ID: 2237052
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

dv said:


There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques.

This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

Heck! (My emphasis.)

I had no idea about that.

Thanks.

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Date: 15/01/2025 12:14:45
From: party_pants
ID: 2237053
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

Michael V said:


dv said:

There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques.

This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

Heck! (My emphasis.)

I had no idea about that.

Thanks.

I’m still struggling to cope with the idea that this was done in the US with millions of paper cheques

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Date: 15/01/2025 12:15:40
From: dv
ID: 2237055
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques.

This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

Heck! (My emphasis.)

I had no idea about that.

Thanks.

I’m still struggling to cope with the idea that this was done in the US with millions of paper cheques

Somehow cheques, or checks as they call them there, are still a major deal in the US and A.

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Date: 15/01/2025 12:16:05
From: Cymek
ID: 2237057
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

Michael V said:


dv said:

There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques.

This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

Heck! (My emphasis.)

I had no idea about that.

Thanks.

It is anti socialist programming.
Government handout is commie, personal money from someone is American patriotism at its best
All hail Darth Trump

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Date: 15/01/2025 12:17:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2237058
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques.

This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

Heck! (My emphasis.)

I had no idea about that.

Thanks.

I’m still struggling to cope with the idea that this was done in the US with millions of paper cheques

Look, they’re still using electoral procedures that are geared to the late 18th century.

Paper cheques is just another of those things that theydelight in, simply because they’re complicated, old-fashioned, inefficient, slow, unreliable, difficult, and expensive.

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Date: 15/01/2025 12:18:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2237059
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

This is why the monarch’s head appears on so much of our own currency.

The king/queen turns out all those coins, and those fivers, in a shed down at the back of Windsor Castle, in their spare time, at their own expense, and generously donates them to us.

at least with doggy coin it’s felon’s own money everyone’s getting

wait

I’m starting to think that isn’t the only thing crypto about him

https://tinyurl.com/j2zh5tyu

Sheesh wtf¿

Gore Vidal described William F. Buckley, Jr. as a “sort of pro or crypto-Nazi”. Buckley responded, “Now listen you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I’ll sock you in the goddamn face, and you’ll stay plastered.” Vidal later clarified

“shut the fup you bastard I’m not a closet fascist, I’m just someone who totally doesn’t believe in the use of violence as a means to achieve political ends’

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Date: 15/01/2025 12:25:40
From: Cymek
ID: 2237066
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

at least with doggy coin it’s felon’s own money everyone’s getting

wait

I’m starting to think that isn’t the only thing crypto about him

https://tinyurl.com/j2zh5tyu

Sheesh wtf¿

Gore Vidal described William F. Buckley, Jr. as a “sort of pro or crypto-Nazi”. Buckley responded, “Now listen you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I’ll sock you in the goddamn face, and you’ll stay plastered.” Vidal later clarified

“shut the fup you bastard I’m not a closet fascist, I’m just someone who totally doesn’t believe in the use of violence as a means to achieve political ends’

Seems to end up most nations born from violence end up being what they fought against.
Warmonger in the name of national security

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Date: 15/01/2025 12:30:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2237073
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

Cymek said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques.

This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

Heck! (My emphasis.)

I had no idea about that.

Thanks.

It is anti socialist programming.
Government handout is commie, personal money from someone is American patriotism at its best
All hail Darth Trump

don’t they use a courtesy name so it should be something more like Darth Faeces and Darth Felon the co presidents et alia

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Date: 15/01/2025 12:31:15
From: dv
ID: 2237075
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Michael V said:

Heck! (My emphasis.)

I had no idea about that.

Thanks.

It is anti socialist programming.
Government handout is commie, personal money from someone is American patriotism at its best
All hail Darth Trump

don’t they use a courtesy name so it should be something more like Darth Faeces and Darth Felon the co presidents et alia

Emerald Shitty

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Date: 15/01/2025 12:45:37
From: party_pants
ID: 2237079
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

dv said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

Heck! (My emphasis.)

I had no idea about that.

Thanks.

I’m still struggling to cope with the idea that this was done in the US with millions of paper cheques

Somehow cheques, or checks as they call them there, are still a major deal in the US and A.

Yeah.

We have an official plan to phase them out by the end of 2029. I can noly imagine the uproar if they tried that in the US.

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Date: 15/01/2025 12:45:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 2237080
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

dv said:


There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques. This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

They have actually a far longer road than any of us could imagine.

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Date: 15/01/2025 12:46:46
From: kii
ID: 2237081
Subject: re: On the nature of stupidity

Michael V said:


dv said:

There are tens of millions of adult Americans who believe that Donald Trump paid their covid relief payments out of his own money, as though the cheques were personal cheques, because he wouldn’t agree to the measure unless his face and signature were on the cheques.

This comes up again and again when people are asked what they like about Trump. Set aside the fact that the main thing the man is famous for is failure to pay his own bills… the idea that he would have access to the hundreds of billions of dollars paid out or that that is how government payments work betrays a childlike understanding of politics and the economy. If I met someone who thought Albanese was financing their disability pension they would be well and truly the dumbest person or perhaps just severely mentally ill, but these people make up a generous slice of the American electorate. Education is the key I suppose but Republicans always block efforts to improve education funding. This is another reason why I think that the US has a long road back to glory.

Heck! (My emphasis.)

I had no idea about that.

Thanks.

When we received our cheque with his signature I felt my values had been violated, it felt dirty and I didn’t want to touch it. mr kii deposited it into our account. I knew about the delay etc, so he could make a performance etc.

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