So it fits nicely into the school calendar each year. I propose the following dates:

Australian national day to be the first Monday in February each year. With kids going back to school on the following Wednesday.

Good Friday to be fixed as the second Friday in April, and then Easter Sunday and Monday on the next Sunday and Monday respectively. The school term to end on the Wednesday or Thursday before Good Friday.

party_pants said:

So it fits nicely into the school calendar each year. I propose the following dates:

Australian national day to be the first Monday in February each year. With kids going back to school on the following Wednesday.

Good Friday to be fixed as the second Friday in April, and then Easter Sunday and Monday on the next Sunday and Monday respectively. The school term to end on the Wednesday or Thursday before Good Friday.

I think it might be beyond the remit of Australian government to influence the date of Easter.

But if we are moving Australia Day it might as well be to 3 March to celebrate independence.

dv said:

party_pants said:

So it fits nicely into the school calendar each year. I propose the following dates:

Australian national day to be the first Monday in February each year. With kids going back to school on the following Wednesday.

Good Friday to be fixed as the second Friday in April, and then Easter Sunday and Monday on the next Sunday and Monday respectively. The school term to end on the Wednesday or Thursday before Good Friday.

I think it might be beyond the remit of Australian government to influence the date of Easter.

But if we are moving Australia Day it might as well be to 3 March to celebrate independence.

may 9?

and a recreation day for 31st of Jan. nothing too sweeten up a change of date like an extra holiday day.

dv said:

party_pants said:

So it fits nicely into the school calendar each year. I propose the following dates:

Australian national day to be the first Monday in February each year. With kids going back to school on the following Wednesday.

Good Friday to be fixed as the second Friday in April, and then Easter Sunday and Monday on the next Sunday and Monday respectively. The school term to end on the Wednesday or Thursday before Good Friday.

I think it might be beyond the remit of Australian government to influence the date of Easter.

But if we are moving Australia Day it might as well be to 3 March to celebrate independence.

may 9?

and a recreation day for 31st of Jan. nothing too sweeten up a change of date like an extra holiday day.

dec 31 i mean…

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

party_pants said:

So it fits nicely into the school calendar each year. I propose the following dates:

Australian national day to be the first Monday in February each year. With kids going back to school on the following Wednesday.

Good Friday to be fixed as the second Friday in April, and then Easter Sunday and Monday on the next Sunday and Monday respectively. The school term to end on the Wednesday or Thursday before Good Friday.

I think it might be beyond the remit of Australian government to influence the date of Easter.

But if we are moving Australia Day it might as well be to 3 March to celebrate independence.

may 9?

and a recreation day for 31st of Jan. nothing too sweeten up a change of date like an extra holiday day.

What was May 9?

party_pants said:

So it fits nicely into the school calendar each year. I propose the following dates:

Australian national day to be the first Monday in February each year. With kids going back to school on the following Wednesday.

Good Friday to be fixed as the second Friday in April, and then Easter Sunday and Monday on the next Sunday and Monday respectively. The school term to end on the Wednesday or Thursday before Good Friday.

Australia unilaterally changing the dates of Easter feels like Trump renaming the Gulf of Mexico.

dv said:

party_pants said:

So it fits nicely into the school calendar each year. I propose the following dates:

Australian national day to be the first Monday in February each year. With kids going back to school on the following Wednesday.

Good Friday to be fixed as the second Friday in April, and then Easter Sunday and Monday on the next Sunday and Monday respectively. The school term to end on the Wednesday or Thursday before Good Friday.

I think it might be beyond the remit of Australian government to influence the date of Easter.

But if we are moving Australia Day it might as well be to 3 March to celebrate independence.

I;m trying to avoid having holidays in the middle of the school term. There’s enough of them already.

Given that a large proportion of the population have no religion, I don’t think they’ll mind fixing the date for the public holidays taken in observance of Easter. Sure there will be some who will insist on going to mass on the traditional date, they can do that, but they don’t get the PH on that day.

party_pants said:

dv said:

party_pants said:

So it fits nicely into the school calendar each year. I propose the following dates:

Australian national day to be the first Monday in February each year. With kids going back to school on the following Wednesday.

Good Friday to be fixed as the second Friday in April, and then Easter Sunday and Monday on the next Sunday and Monday respectively. The school term to end on the Wednesday or Thursday before Good Friday.

I think it might be beyond the remit of Australian government to influence the date of Easter.

But if we are moving Australia Day it might as well be to 3 March to celebrate independence.

I;m trying to avoid having holidays in the middle of the school term. There’s enough of them already.

Given that a large proportion of the population have no religion, I don’t think they’ll mind fixing the date for the public holidays taken in observance of Easter. Sure there will be some who will insist on going to mass on the traditional date, they can do that, but they don’t get the PH on that day.

Still you’d probably need to have some synod declare it so I recommend creating the Australian Orthodox church

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

I think it might be beyond the remit of Australian government to influence the date of Easter.

But if we are moving Australia Day it might as well be to 3 March to celebrate independence.

may 9?

and a recreation day for 31st of Jan. nothing too sweeten up a change of date like an extra holiday day.

What was May 9?

Opening of the First Parliament of the Commonwealth of Australia by HRH The Duke of Cornwall and York (Later HM King George V), May 9, 1901 by Tom Roberts

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

So it fits nicely into the school calendar each year. I propose the following dates:

Australian national day to be the first Monday in February each year. With kids going back to school on the following Wednesday.

Good Friday to be fixed as the second Friday in April, and then Easter Sunday and Monday on the next Sunday and Monday respectively. The school term to end on the Wednesday or Thursday before Good Friday.

Australia unilaterally changing the dates of Easter feels like Trump renaming the Gulf of Mexico.

It is changing the public holidays taken in observance of it. There will be some churches who will insist on holding celebrations on the traditional dates, they can still do that. it is just the PHs that are changing.

dv said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

I think it might be beyond the remit of Australian government to influence the date of Easter.

But if we are moving Australia Day it might as well be to 3 March to celebrate independence.

I;m trying to avoid having holidays in the middle of the school term. There’s enough of them already.

Given that a large proportion of the population have no religion, I don’t think they’ll mind fixing the date for the public holidays taken in observance of Easter. Sure there will be some who will insist on going to mass on the traditional date, they can do that, but they don’t get the PH on that day.

Still you’d probably need to have some synod declare it so I recommend creating the Australian Orthodox church

Not allowed to have an established church in Australia.

I don’t think the national day needs to commemorate some historical event. I think it is is more in the national spirit just to declare a public holiday at a time of best convenience. That’s why I picked the first monday in Feb. It doesn’t need to fall on any particular date. It marks the end of summer holidays and return to the normal routine. That’s pretty much it.

party_pants said:

I don’t think the national day needs to commemorate some historical event. I think it is is more in the national spirit just to declare a public holiday at a time of best convenience. That’s why I picked the first monday in Feb. It doesn’t need to fall on any particular date. It marks the end of summer holidays and return to the normal routine. That’s pretty much it.

Do you have school aged children?

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

I don’t think the national day needs to commemorate some historical event. I think it is is more in the national spirit just to declare a public holiday at a time of best convenience. That’s why I picked the first monday in Feb. It doesn’t need to fall on any particular date. It marks the end of summer holidays and return to the normal routine. That’s pretty much it.

Do you have school aged children?

it is not about me.

Just ditch the school calendar, schooling is for factory kids anyway, they learn nothing useful from school, and people should be working learning playing breeding online so set terms are just garbage.

SCIENCE said:

Just ditch the school calendar, schooling is for factory kids anyway, they learn nothing useful from school, and people should be working learning playing breeding online so set terms are just garbage.

No. I understand the key factors of production for a nation as: natural resources, human resources, energy and technology. Of these, human resources are the ones you most control over. Having an educated workforce also increases your technology score, being able effectively use and operate it.

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

Just ditch the school calendar, schooling is for factory kids anyway, they learn nothing useful from school, and people should be working learning playing breeding online so set terms are just garbage.

No. I understand the key factors of production for a nation as: natural resources, human resources, energy and technology. Of these, human resources are the ones you most control over. Having an educated workforce also increases your technology score, being able effectively use and operate it.

sorry for not including our disclaimer we were being semi non serious referencing things like a recent Forum conversation about how useless teachers are and so forth but also

we do believe the whole school structure would benefit from a big restructure to take advantage of modern developments and fit modern lifestyles better, and we do believe reorganising school terms could be part of that

also remember how our souls told us how 3 weeks of school closures would cause 200 years of immunity debt and 100 points of IQ drop due to learning loss, well, think of all that damage done by the long summer school holidays

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

Just ditch the school calendar, schooling is for factory kids anyway, they learn nothing useful from school, and people should be working learning playing breeding online so set terms are just garbage.

No. I understand the key factors of production for a nation as: natural resources, human resources, energy and technology. Of these, human resources are the ones you most control over. Having an educated workforce also increases your technology score, being able effectively use and operate it.

sorry for not including our disclaimer we were being semi non serious referencing things like a recent Forum conversation about how useless teachers are and so forth but also

we do believe the whole school structure would benefit from a big restructure to take advantage of modern developments and fit modern lifestyles better, and we do believe reorganising school terms could be part of that

also remember how our souls told us how 3 weeks of school closures would cause 200 years of immunity debt and 100 points of IQ drop due to learning loss, well, think of all that damage done by the long summer school holidays

The best thing we can do to reform education is to ban private fee paying schools. That way politicians and rich people will have to make sure the education system is properly funded and administered, if their own kids have to use it.

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

No. I understand the key factors of production for a nation as: natural resources, human resources, energy and technology. Of these, human resources are the ones you most control over. Having an educated workforce also increases your technology score, being able effectively use and operate it.

sorry for not including our disclaimer we were being semi non serious referencing things like a recent Forum conversation about how useless teachers are and so forth but also

we do believe the whole school structure would benefit from a big restructure to take advantage of modern developments and fit modern lifestyles better, and we do believe reorganising school terms could be part of that

also remember how our souls told us how 3 weeks of school closures would cause 200 years of immunity debt and 100 points of IQ drop due to learning loss, well, think of all that damage done by the long summer school holidays

The best thing we can do to reform education is to ban private fee paying schools. That way politicians and rich people will have to make sure the education system is properly funded and administered, if their own kids have to use it.

+1

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

No. I understand the key factors of production for a nation as: natural resources, human resources, energy and technology. Of these, human resources are the ones you most control over. Having an educated workforce also increases your technology score, being able effectively use and operate it.

sorry for not including our disclaimer we were being semi non serious referencing things like a recent Forum conversation about how useless teachers are and so forth but also

we do believe the whole school structure would benefit from a big restructure to take advantage of modern developments and fit modern lifestyles better, and we do believe reorganising school terms could be part of that

also remember how our souls told us how 3 weeks of school closures would cause 200 years of immunity debt and 100 points of IQ drop due to learning loss, well, think of all that damage done by the long summer school holidays

The best thing we can do to reform education is to ban private fee paying schools. That way politicians and rich people will have to make sure the education system is properly funded and administered, if their own kids have to use it.

just make it so that the private schools cannot claim more per kid as the public schools get. they get paid per kid at the same rate as plunkett street.

What if we have all the holidays bunched up together one after the other?

Tau.Neutrino said:

What if we have all the holidays bunched up together one after the other?

that’s called death

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

What if we have all the holidays bunched up together one after the other?

that’s called death

But it would feel more like a holiday then.

kii said:

FWIW some more.

Not about changing the date, but this is a worthy point…
“…some people over there havent left the ship they were sent in…”

kii said:

“The first Australia Day was established in response to Australia’s involvement in World War I. In 1915, Ellen “Ellie” Wharton Kirke MBE, née Clements, mother of four servicemen, thought up the idea of a national day, with the specific aim of raising funds for wounded soldiers, and the term was coined to stir up patriotic feelings. In 1915 a committee to celebrate Australia Day was formed, and the date chosen was 30 July, on which many fund-raising efforts were run to support the war effort. It was also held in July in subsequent years of World War I: on 28 July 1916, 27 July 1917, and 26 July 1918.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_Day#1839%E2%80%931935

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

Woodie said:

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

National Barbie & Piss-up day!

All inclusive!

Woodie said:

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

Only Pomland and Denmark don’t have a national day, according to Wiki. Even then Denmark sort of has one, called Constitution Day to mark the adoption of it, but it is not a holiday with public festivities etc. Seems everyone else has one.

It is also India’s Republic Day today.

Woodie said:

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

St George’s day for England, St David’s day for Cymru, dunno if Scotland has any saints, maybe Saint Robbie Burns will do.

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

St George’s day for England, St David’s day for Cymru, dunno if Scotland has any saints, maybe Saint Robbie Burns will do.

St Andrew. It’s also the name of the Scottish flag, St Andrew’s Cross.

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

St George’s day for England, St David’s day for Cymru, dunno if Scotland has any saints, maybe Saint Robbie Burns will do.

st andrew.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

St George’s day for England, St David’s day for Cymru, dunno if Scotland has any saints, maybe Saint Robbie Burns will do.

St Andrew. It’s also the name of the Scottish flag, St Andrew’s Cross.

the saltire.

I just saw a woman walk past, dressed to the nines with what appeared to be a fluke of champaign.

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

St George’s day for England, St David’s day for Cymru, dunno if Scotland has any saints, maybe Saint Robbie Burns will do.

Do they get the day off?

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

St George’s day for England, St David’s day for Cymru, dunno if Scotland has any saints, maybe Saint Robbie Burns will do.

St Andrew. It’s also the name of the Scottish flag, St Andrew’s Cross.

slaps forehead

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

St George’s day for England, St David’s day for Cymru, dunno if Scotland has any saints, maybe Saint Robbie Burns will do.

Do they get the day off?

Well not the peasants but the chaps have a right piss up.

party_pants said:

Woodie said:

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

Only Pomland and Denmark don’t have a national day, according to Wiki. Even then Denmark sort of has one, called Constitution Day to mark the adoption of it, but it is not a holiday with public festivities etc. Seems everyone else has one.

It is also India’s Republic Day today.

As has been noted, the UK makes up for not having a National Holiday by being the cause of the national holiday of so many other countries.

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

St George’s day for England, St David’s day for Cymru, dunno if Scotland has any saints, maybe Saint Robbie Burns will do.

What is Saint Andrew, chopped liver?

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

St George’s day for England, St David’s day for Cymru, dunno if Scotland has any saints, maybe Saint Robbie Burns will do.

St Andrew. It’s also the name of the Scottish flag, St Andrew’s Cross.

slaps forehead

Northern Ireland celebrates St Patrick’s Day of course.

Isle of Man celebrates Tynwald Day on 5 July, which is nice democratic thing to celebrate.

The Channel Isles celebrate Liberation Day, 9 May, which is when the Muskies had to go home.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

St George’s day for England, St David’s day for Cymru, dunno if Scotland has any saints, maybe Saint Robbie Burns will do.

St Andrew. It’s also the name of the Scottish flag, St Andrew’s Cross.

the saltire.

NOT SALTIRE

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Why do we have to have one at all??

The Poms don’t have National Pommie Day, do they.

St George’s day for England, St David’s day for Cymru, dunno if Scotland has any saints, maybe Saint Robbie Burns will do.

St Andrew. It’s also the name of the Scottish flag, St Andrew’s Cross.

Wait they celebrate formerly known as Twitter ¿

From my nextdoor neighbour feed:

“This is why 26th January is the day new Australians receive their citizenship It is a day which celebrates the implementation of the Nationality of Citizenship Act of 1948 –The Act which gave freedom and protection to the first Australians and gives all Australians, old and new, the right to live under the protection of the Australian Law”, united as one nation.”

Is that right?

The Rev Dodgson said:

From my nextdoor neighbour feed:

“This is why 26th January is the day new Australians receive their citizenship It is a day which celebrates the implementation of the Nationality of Citizenship Act of 1948 –The Act which gave freedom and protection to the first Australians and gives all Australians, old and new, the right to live under the protection of the Australian Law”, united as one nation.”

Is that right?

No, it isn’t

The Rev Dodgson said:

From my nextdoor neighbour feed:

“This is why 26th January is the day new Australians receive their citizenship It is a day which celebrates the implementation of the Nationality of Citizenship Act of 1948 –The Act which gave freedom and protection to the first Australians and gives all Australians, old and new, the right to live under the protection of the Australian Law”, united as one nation.”

Is that right?

No. First Australians were not recognised as people until the plebiscite of 1967. There is no Nationality of Citizenship Act, 1948 or any other year.

btm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

From my nextdoor neighbour feed:

“This is why 26th January is the day new Australians receive their citizenship It is a day which celebrates the implementation of the Nationality of Citizenship Act of 1948 –The Act which gave freedom and protection to the first Australians and gives all Australians, old and new, the right to live under the protection of the Australian Law”, united as one nation.”

Is that right?

No. First Australians were not recognised as people until the plebiscite of 1967. There is no Nationality of Citizenship Act, 1948 or any other year.

Well there was an Australian Citizenship Act 1948:

https://www.legislation.gov.au/C1948A00083/latest/text

May 9 is the real Australia Day
Australia’s constitution was proclaimed on January 1 1901, but only had full effect when our first federal parliament met on May 9 1901, in the Exhibition Building in Melbourne.
When the parliament moved to Canberra in 1927, the new temporary parliament house was again opened on May 9.

Six decades later, when the new and permanent parliament house was opened on Canberra’s Capital Hill in 1988, the date chosen was again May 9.

It is not simply these events that make May 9 the real Australia Day.

In his speech on May 9 1988, Prime Minister Bob Hawke said the new building
would become for our nation both the forum for our differences and the instrument of our unity – a building for all Australians, a parliament reflecting the diversity of our entire society and responding to the needs of the whole community.

Tamb said:

May 9 is the real Australia Day
Australia’s constitution was proclaimed on January 1 1901, but only had full effect when our first federal parliament met on May 9 1901, in the Exhibition Building in Melbourne.
When the parliament moved to Canberra in 1927, the new temporary parliament house was again opened on May 9.

Six decades later, when the new and permanent parliament house was opened on Canberra’s Capital Hill in 1988, the date chosen was again May 9.

It is not simply these events that make May 9 the real Australia Day.

In his speech on May 9 1988, Prime Minister Bob Hawke said the new building
would become for our nation both the forum for our differences and the instrument of our unity – a building for all Australians, a parliament reflecting the diversity of our entire society and responding to the needs of the whole community.

Fair and reasonable comment.

The corporations must laugh when they see these debates

May 9 is the real Australia Day

Australia’s constitution was proclaimed on January 1 1901, but only had full effect when our first federal parliament met on May 9 1901, in the Exhibition Building in Melbourne.
The Opening, Commonwealth Parliament.

When the parliament moved to Canberra in 1927, the new temporary parliament house was again opened on May 9.

Six decades later, when the new and permanent parliament house was opened on Canberra’s Capital Hill in 1988, the date chosen was again May 9.

It is not simply these events that make May 9 the real Australia Day.

In his speech on May 9 1988, Prime Minister Bob Hawke said the new building would
become for our nation both the forum for our differences and the instrument of our unity – a building for all Australians, a parliament reflecting the diversity of our entire society and responding to the needs of the whole community.

The 1918 Electoral Act required all electors to vote. The 1973 Medicare Act gave us the healthcare card we take for granted.

The 2017 Marriage Amendment Act gave same-sex couples the right to marry, in accordance with the wishes of the majority of the population.

The 1967 referendum allowed the parliament to legislate for Indigenous Australians for the first time. If the Voice Referendum is passed, Indigenous Australians will get a constitutionally enshrined mechanism for making representations to it.

Tamb said:

May 9 is the real Australia Day

Australia’s constitution was proclaimed on January 1 1901, but only had full effect when our first federal parliament met on May 9 1901, in the Exhibition Building in Melbourne.
The Opening, Commonwealth Parliament.

When the parliament moved to Canberra in 1927, the new temporary parliament house was again opened on May 9.

Six decades later, when the new and permanent parliament house was opened on Canberra’s Capital Hill in 1988, the date chosen was again May 9.

It is not simply these events that make May 9 the real Australia Day.

In his speech on May 9 1988, Prime Minister Bob Hawke said the new building would
become for our nation both the forum for our differences and the instrument of our unity – a building for all Australians, a parliament reflecting the diversity of our entire society and responding to the needs of the whole community.

The 1918 Electoral Act required all electors to vote. The 1973 Medicare Act gave us the healthcare card we take for granted.

The 2017 Marriage Amendment Act gave same-sex couples the right to marry, in accordance with the wishes of the majority of the population.

The 1967 referendum allowed the parliament to legislate for Indigenous Australians for the first time. If the Voice Referendum is passed, Indigenous Australians will get a constitutionally enshrined mechanism for making representations to it.

Tell Potato head.

‘Member when Steve (Avatar) proposed moving Easter to October?

Divine Angel said:

‘Member when Steve (Avatar) proposed moving Easter to October?

>>Puts hand up and steps forward.

No.

Divine Angel said:

‘Member when Steve (Avatar) proposed moving Easter to October?

No, but I suppose his argument was that Easter is a spring festival.

Divine Angel said:

‘Member when Steve (Avatar) proposed moving Easter to October?

I don’t but maybe I missed it.

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

‘Member when Steve (Avatar) proposed moving Easter to October?

No, but I suppose his argument was that Easter is a spring festival.

Partly, but mostly that the latter half of the year lacks public holidays.

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

‘Member when Steve (Avatar) proposed moving Easter to October?

No, but I suppose his argument was that Easter is a spring festival.

Partly, but mostly that the latter half of the year lacks public holidays.

:)

wester

There are about ten public holidays in WA a year

We should just tell everyone that they get ten days of their choosing to have their ‘public holiday’ and be done with it.

This way people can take all ten at a time and gon on a trip with their whole family,

Or if they get up in the morning and their plants have all died and they get a flat tyre and they haven’t made their bed and they ate sour milk with their wheetbix and they cut themselves shaving they can just call it a day and curl up on the couch and watch Wallace and Gromit all day.

And the stores won’t have to put out stupid decorations and themed aisles with overpriced tacky plastic crap they force people into buying because most people can’t get past the social obligation of thematic days

And everyone would be a lot better off.

Arts said:

There are about ten public holidays in WA a year

We should just tell everyone that they get ten days of their choosing to have their ‘public holiday’ and be done with it.

This way people can take all ten at a time and gon on a trip with their whole family,

Or if they get up in the morning and their plants have all died and they get a flat tyre and they haven’t made their bed and they ate sour milk with their wheetbix and they cut themselves shaving they can just call it a day and curl up on the couch and watch Wallace and Gromit all day.

And the stores won’t have to put out stupid decorations and themed aisles with overpriced tacky plastic crap they force people into buying because most people can’t get past the social obligation of thematic days

And everyone would be a lot better off.

People are willing to buy garbage when you force them or not..

Arts said:

There are about ten public holidays in WA a year

We should just tell everyone that they get ten days of their choosing to have their ‘public holiday’ and be done with it.

This way people can take all ten at a time and gon on a trip with their whole family,

Or if they get up in the morning and their plants have all died and they get a flat tyre and they haven’t made their bed and they ate sour milk with their wheetbix and they cut themselves shaving they can just call it a day and curl up on the couch and watch Wallace and Gromit all day.

And the stores won’t have to put out stupid decorations and themed aisles with overpriced tacky plastic crap they force people into buying because most people can’t get past the social obligation of thematic days

And everyone would be a lot better off.

but the whole point of a public holiday is that everyone gets the same day off all at the same time.

party_pants said:

Arts said:

There are about ten public holidays in WA a year

We should just tell everyone that they get ten days of their choosing to have their ‘public holiday’ and be done with it.

This way people can take all ten at a time and gon on a trip with their whole family,

Or if they get up in the morning and their plants have all died and they get a flat tyre and they haven’t made their bed and they ate sour milk with their wheetbix and they cut themselves shaving they can just call it a day and curl up on the couch and watch Wallace and Gromit all day.

And the stores won’t have to put out stupid decorations and themed aisles with overpriced tacky plastic crap they force people into buying because most people can’t get past the social obligation of thematic days

And everyone would be a lot better off.

but the whole point of a public holiday is that everyone gets the same day off all at the same time.

Why though? If people want a day off at the same time as their friends then the whole friend group can take the same day off But why would I care if the whole of wa has the same day? I mean the only people that would lose would be the ones who work on current public holidays and get the rates.

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Arts said:

There are about ten public holidays in WA a year

We should just tell everyone that they get ten days of their choosing to have their ‘public holiday’ and be done with it.

This way people can take all ten at a time and gon on a trip with their whole family,

Or if they get up in the morning and their plants have all died and they get a flat tyre and they haven’t made their bed and they ate sour milk with their wheetbix and they cut themselves shaving they can just call it a day and curl up on the couch and watch Wallace and Gromit all day.

And the stores won’t have to put out stupid decorations and themed aisles with overpriced tacky plastic crap they force people into buying because most people can’t get past the social obligation of thematic days

And everyone would be a lot better off.

but the whole point of a public holiday is that everyone gets the same day off all at the same time.

Why though? If people want a day off at the same time as their friends then the whole friend group can take the same day off But why would I care if the whole of wa has the same day? I mean the only people that would lose would be the ones who work on current public holidays and get the rates.

Because it’s not just a day off to go and do as you please, it’s a day off to commemorate or celebrate or mourn some event generally relevant to your society. It’s about being part of society, not about the individual.

party_pants said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

but the whole point of a public holiday is that everyone gets the same day off all at the same time.

Why though? If people want a day off at the same time as their friends then the whole friend group can take the same day off But why would I care if the whole of wa has the same day? I mean the only people that would lose would be the ones who work on current public holidays and get the rates.

Because it’s not just a day off to go and do as you please, it’s a day off to commemorate or celebrate or mourn some event generally relevant to your society. It’s about being part of society, not about the individual.

Tribalism.

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Arts said:

Why though? If people want a day off at the same time as their friends then the whole friend group can take the same day off But why would I care if the whole of wa has the same day? I mean the only people that would lose would be the ones who work on current public holidays and get the rates.

Because it’s not just a day off to go and do as you please, it’s a day off to commemorate or celebrate or mourn some event generally relevant to your society. It’s about being part of society, not about the individual.

Tribalism.

Nah. Being part of a society is fundamental to human existence. No human can survive truly alone.

Arts said:

There are about ten public holidays in WA a year

We should just tell everyone that they get ten days of their choosing to have their ‘public holiday’ and be done with it.

This way people can take all ten at a time and gon on a trip with their whole family,

Or if they get up in the morning and their plants have all died and they get a flat tyre and they haven’t made their bed and they ate sour milk with their wheetbix and they cut themselves shaving they can just call it a day and curl up on the couch and watch Wallace and Gromit all day.

And the stores won’t have to put out stupid decorations and themed aisles with overpriced tacky plastic crap they force people into buying because most people can’t get past the social obligation of thematic days

And everyone would be a lot better off.

Public holidays are declared and ‘gazetted’ by the government. Basically, they are not optional.

If employers insist that staff work on those days, then employers have to pay them higher rates in compensation for the sacrifice of those public holidays.

If they’re just given to workers as an extension of their annual leave or similar, then they’ll become something that’s up for grabs at the bargaining table, where employers seek to reduce the pay and conditions of workers, or, at the very least, see that those things are not increased or bettered.

Eventually, employer groups would nibble away at ‘public holiday entitlements’ bit by bit in the horse-trading and selling of family jewels that’s called ‘enterprise bargaining’, and sooner or later (more likely, sooner) public holidays wouldbe a thing of the past.

Public holidays, as they are, serve a purpose in reminding employer groups that there are a very few things, at least, are beyond their avarice.

party_pants said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Because it’s not just a day off to go and do as you please, it’s a day off to commemorate or celebrate or mourn some event generally relevant to your society. It’s about being part of society, not about the individual.

Tribalism.

Nah. Being part of a society is fundamental to human existence. No human can survive truly alone.

No man is an island, although some men are in Ireland.

captain_spalding said:

Arts said:

There are about ten public holidays in WA a year

We should just tell everyone that they get ten days of their choosing to have their ‘public holiday’ and be done with it.

This way people can take all ten at a time and gon on a trip with their whole family,

Or if they get up in the morning and their plants have all died and they get a flat tyre and they haven’t made their bed and they ate sour milk with their wheetbix and they cut themselves shaving they can just call it a day and curl up on the couch and watch Wallace and Gromit all day.

And the stores won’t have to put out stupid decorations and themed aisles with overpriced tacky plastic crap they force people into buying because most people can’t get past the social obligation of thematic days

And everyone would be a lot better off.

Public holidays are declared and ‘gazetted’ by the government. Basically, they are not optional.

If employers insist that staff work on those days, then employers have to pay them higher rates in compensation for the sacrifice of those public holidays.

If they’re just given to workers as an extension of their annual leave or similar, then they’ll become something that’s up for grabs at the bargaining table, where employers seek to reduce the pay and conditions of workers, or, at the very least, see that those things are not increased or bettered.

Eventually, employer groups would nibble away at ‘public holiday entitlements’ bit by bit in the horse-trading and selling of family jewels that’s called ‘enterprise bargaining’, and sooner or later (more likely, sooner) public holidays wouldbe a thing of the past.

Public holidays, as they are, serve a purpose in reminding employer groups that there are a very few things, at least, are beyond their avarice.

Careful , your cynicism is showing.

Arts said:

captain_spalding said:

Arts said:

There are about ten public holidays in WA a year

We should just tell everyone that they get ten days of their choosing to have their ‘public holiday’ and be done with it.

This way people can take all ten at a time and gon on a trip with their whole family,

Or if they get up in the morning and their plants have all died and they get a flat tyre and they haven’t made their bed and they ate sour milk with their wheetbix and they cut themselves shaving they can just call it a day and curl up on the couch and watch Wallace and Gromit all day.

And the stores won’t have to put out stupid decorations and themed aisles with overpriced tacky plastic crap they force people into buying because most people can’t get past the social obligation of thematic days

And everyone would be a lot better off.

Public holidays are declared and ‘gazetted’ by the government. Basically, they are not optional.

If employers insist that staff work on those days, then employers have to pay them higher rates in compensation for the sacrifice of those public holidays.

If they’re just given to workers as an extension of their annual leave or similar, then they’ll become something that’s up for grabs at the bargaining table, where employers seek to reduce the pay and conditions of workers, or, at the very least, see that those things are not increased or bettered.

Eventually, employer groups would nibble away at ‘public holiday entitlements’ bit by bit in the horse-trading and selling of family jewels that’s called ‘enterprise bargaining’, and sooner or later (more likely, sooner) public holidays wouldbe a thing of the past.

Public holidays, as they are, serve a purpose in reminding employer groups that there are a very few things, at least, are beyond their avarice.

Careful , your cynicism is showing.

It’s ok, i’m expecting that one or two people will be along soon to remonstrate with me on that.

Almost Pavlovian, it is.

Arts said:

There are about ten public holidays in WA a year

We should just tell everyone that they get ten days of their choosing to have their ‘public holiday’ and be done with it.

This way people can take all ten at a time and gon on a trip with their whole family,

Or if they get up in the morning and their plants have all died and they get a flat tyre and they haven’t made their bed and they ate sour milk with their wheetbix and they cut themselves shaving they can just call it a day and curl up on the couch and watch Wallace and Gromit all day.

And the stores won’t have to put out stupid decorations and themed aisles with overpriced tacky plastic crap they force people into buying because most people can’t get past the social obligation of thematic days

And everyone would be a lot better off.

Then thy’d be Private Holidays.

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Arts said:

There are about ten public holidays in WA a year

We should just tell everyone that they get ten days of their choosing to have their ‘public holiday’ and be done with it.

This way people can take all ten at a time and gon on a trip with their whole family,

Or if they get up in the morning and their plants have all died and they get a flat tyre and they haven’t made their bed and they ate sour milk with their wheetbix and they cut themselves shaving they can just call it a day and curl up on the couch and watch Wallace and Gromit all day.

And the stores won’t have to put out stupid decorations and themed aisles with overpriced tacky plastic crap they force people into buying because most people can’t get past the social obligation of thematic days

And everyone would be a lot better off.

but the whole point of a public holiday is that everyone gets the same day off all at the same time.

Why though? If people want a day off at the same time as their friends then the whole friend group can take the same day off But why would I care if the whole of wa has the same day? I mean the only people that would lose would be the ones who work on current public holidays and get the rates.

Employee days off are at employer discretion.

Y’all should calm down and just let the idea wash for a little bit.. you’ll see how sensible it is with time.

Honestly, you are all so set in your ways.

It should also be remembered that these are holy days for remembering saints with feasts, or sometimes fasts.

Arts said:

captain_spalding said:

Arts said:

There are about ten public holidays in WA a year

We should just tell everyone that they get ten days of their choosing to have their ‘public holiday’ and be done with it.

This way people can take all ten at a time and gon on a trip with their whole family,

Or if they get up in the morning and their plants have all died and they get a flat tyre and they haven’t made their bed and they ate sour milk with their wheetbix and they cut themselves shaving they can just call it a day and curl up on the couch and watch Wallace and Gromit all day.

And the stores won’t have to put out stupid decorations and themed aisles with overpriced tacky plastic crap they force people into buying because most people can’t get past the social obligation of thematic days

And everyone would be a lot better off.

Public holidays are declared and ‘gazetted’ by the government. Basically, they are not optional.

If employers insist that staff work on those days, then employers have to pay them higher rates in compensation for the sacrifice of those public holidays.

If they’re just given to workers as an extension of their annual leave or similar, then they’ll become something that’s up for grabs at the bargaining table, where employers seek to reduce the pay and conditions of workers, or, at the very least, see that those things are not increased or bettered.

Eventually, employer groups would nibble away at ‘public holiday entitlements’ bit by bit in the horse-trading and selling of family jewels that’s called ‘enterprise bargaining’, and sooner or later (more likely, sooner) public holidays wouldbe a thing of the past.

Public holidays, as they are, serve a purpose in reminding employer groups that there are a very few things, at least, are beyond their avarice.

Careful , your cynicism is showing.

LOL

Where have you been, Ms Art?

dv said:

It should also be remembered that these are holy days for remembering saints with feasts, or sometimes fasts.

that is why they are called holidays.

dv said:

It should also be remembered that these are holy days for remembering saints with feasts, or sometimes fasts.

Yeah, but thankfully there’s also the Santa and Easter Bunny festivals on the same dates to cater for the non-religious.

party_pants said:

dv said:

It should also be remembered that these are holy days for remembering saints with feasts, or sometimes fasts.

Yeah, but thankfully there’s also the Santa and Easter Bunny festivals on the same dates to cater for the non-religious.

Only the dominant Christian ones. Fuck other religions

party_pants said:

dv said:

It should also be remembered that these are holy days for remembering saints with feasts, or sometimes fasts.

Yeah, but thankfully there’s also the Santa and Easter Bunny festivals on the same dates to cater for the non-religious.

And, don’t forget that we’re going to have to somehow shoehorn in Thanksgiving after the wannabe-Americans and the big retailers are satisfied that Halloween is secure as a marketing occasion, and they move on to establishing a campaign for November.

Always struck me as funny that Indonesia has more Christian holidays than Australia but then again it also has more Christians than Australia

Arts said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

It should also be remembered that these are holy days for remembering saints with feasts, or sometimes fasts.

Yeah, but thankfully there’s also the Santa and Easter Bunny festivals on the same dates to cater for the non-religious.

Only the dominant Christian ones. Fuck other religions

And Christianity too, once they fall into the minority category.

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Arts said:

There are about ten public holidays in WA a year

We should just tell everyone that they get ten days of their choosing to have their ‘public holiday’ and be done with it.

This way people can take all ten at a time and gon on a trip with their whole family,

Or if they get up in the morning and their plants have all died and they get a flat tyre and they haven’t made their bed and they ate sour milk with their wheetbix and they cut themselves shaving they can just call it a day and curl up on the couch and watch Wallace and Gromit all day.

And the stores won’t have to put out stupid decorations and themed aisles with overpriced tacky plastic crap they force people into buying because most people can’t get past the social obligation of thematic days

And everyone would be a lot better off.

but the whole point of a public holiday is that everyone gets the same day off all at the same time.

Why though? If people want a day off at the same time as their friends then the whole friend group can take the same day off But why would I care if the whole of wa has the same day? I mean the only people that would lose would be the ones who work on current public holidays and get the rates.

I’m sure I have mentioned here before that very early in the time I was running my practice I put it to the staff that we should not bother with the two half day holidays Hamilton used to have (the pacing cup and the racing cup) and that if everyone was happy with the idea, we could just take Easter Tuesday and be done with it. It worked fine. Longer break at Easter. Although eventually they extended the Melbourne Cup Day holiday out to the regions, and then that stupid Friday Before the Grand Final thing…