Date: 4/02/2025 15:04:32
From: dv
ID: 2245550
Subject: Aral Sea update

Little bit of good news. The volume of water in the Aral has tripled in the last 10 years. This is largely due to changes in irrigation practices and some improvements in infrastructure in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan and to a lesser extent the other nations of the basin.

The North Aral was split from the South with the construction of the Kokaral Dam, to give the North some chance to survive. Now that the North is recovering it is hoped that some time in the next ten years, flooding of the south will be permitted.

USAid and European Aid agencies have been working with the Kazakh and Uzbek governments to restore vegetation that will aid the recovery.
https://kz.usembassy.gov/usg-celebrates-oasis-project-to-restore-aral-sea-ecosystem/
https://en.inform.kz/news/eu-to-launch-project-in-uzbekistan-in-2025-to-revitalize-aral-sea-basin-lands-56c101/

https://youtu.be/QzGWRFDSEaU?si=lMrZFKyUiHgcbhrG

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Date: 4/02/2025 16:06:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2245585
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

Kazakhstan is the world’s largest landlocked country.

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Date: 4/02/2025 16:14:33
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2245589
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

Camels sheltering by rusting boats, Aral Sea.

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Date: 4/02/2025 16:19:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2245596
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

June 2023. Fishermen Ali Shadilov, left, and Anvar Saimbetov pose in front of an old boat in the area where the Aral Sea once was in Muynak, Uzbekistan.

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Date: 4/02/2025 16:25:31
From: dv
ID: 2245599
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

Bubblecar said:


Camels sheltering by rusting boats, Aral Sea.


IIJM or do those camels have weirdly pointy humps?

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Date: 4/02/2025 16:28:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2245602
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

Camels sheltering by rusting boats, Aral Sea.


IIJM or do those camels have weirdly pointy humps?

Probably depleted of fat. When they get empty enough the humps flop over.

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Date: 4/02/2025 16:40:35
From: esselte
ID: 2245604
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

Camels sheltering by rusting boats, Aral Sea.


IIJM or do those camels have weirdly pointy humps?

Probably depleted of fat. When they get empty enough the humps flop over.

Wikipedia says there are two species of bactrian camels that diverged about a million years ago. These are likely Wild Bactrian camels (Camelus ferus) rather than the domestic ones (Camelus bactrianus). Apparently there are only around 950 C. ferus still in existence, so we are all more used to looking at (C. bactrianus) with their plump round humps.

“There are several differences in size and shape between the two species. The wild Bactrian camel is slightly smaller than the domestic Bactrian camel and has been described as “lithe, and slender-legged, with very narrow feet and a body that looks laterally compressed.” The humps of the wild Bactrian camel are smaller, lower, and more conical in shape than those of the domestic Bactrian camel. These humps may often be about half the size of those of a domesticated Bactrian camel. The wild Bactrian camel has a different shape of foot and a flatter skull (the Mongolian name for a wild Bactrian camel, havtagai, means “flat-head”).”

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Date: 4/02/2025 16:41:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2245605
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

esselte said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

IIJM or do those camels have weirdly pointy humps?

Probably depleted of fat. When they get empty enough the humps flop over.

Wikipedia says there are two species of bactrian camels that diverged about a million years ago. These are likely Wild Bactrian camels (Camelus ferus) rather than the domestic ones (Camelus bactrianus). Apparently there are only around 950 C. ferus still in existence, so we are all more used to looking at (C. bactrianus) with their plump round humps.

“There are several differences in size and shape between the two species. The wild Bactrian camel is slightly smaller than the domestic Bactrian camel and has been described as “lithe, and slender-legged, with very narrow feet and a body that looks laterally compressed.” The humps of the wild Bactrian camel are smaller, lower, and more conical in shape than those of the domestic Bactrian camel. These humps may often be about half the size of those of a domesticated Bactrian camel. The wild Bactrian camel has a different shape of foot and a flatter skull (the Mongolian name for a wild Bactrian camel, havtagai, means “flat-head”).”

There you are then, ta.

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Date: 4/02/2025 16:43:46
From: dv
ID: 2245606
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

esselte said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

IIJM or do those camels have weirdly pointy humps?

Probably depleted of fat. When they get empty enough the humps flop over.

Wikipedia says there are two species of bactrian camels that diverged about a million years ago. These are likely Wild Bactrian camels (Camelus ferus) rather than the domestic ones (Camelus bactrianus). Apparently there are only around 950 C. ferus still in existence, so we are all more used to looking at (C. bactrianus) with their plump round humps.

“There are several differences in size and shape between the two species. The wild Bactrian camel is slightly smaller than the domestic Bactrian camel and has been described as “lithe, and slender-legged, with very narrow feet and a body that looks laterally compressed.” The humps of the wild Bactrian camel are smaller, lower, and more conical in shape than those of the domestic Bactrian camel. These humps may often be about half the size of those of a domesticated Bactrian camel. The wild Bactrian camel has a different shape of foot and a flatter skull (the Mongolian name for a wild Bactrian camel, havtagai, means “flat-head”).”

All very interesting

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Date: 4/02/2025 16:45:53
From: dv
ID: 2245608
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

Bubblecar said:


June 2023. Fishermen Ali Shadilov, left, and Anvar Saimbetov pose in front of an old boat in the area where the Aral Sea once was in Muynak, Uzbekistan.


That’s a nice pic

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Date: 4/02/2025 18:09:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 2245623
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

June 2023. Fishermen Ali Shadilov, left, and Anvar Saimbetov pose in front of an old boat in the area where the Aral Sea once was in Muynak, Uzbekistan.


That’s a nice pic

The water has gone.

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Date: 4/02/2025 18:38:59
From: dv
ID: 2245633
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

June 2023. Fishermen Ali Shadilov, left, and Anvar Saimbetov pose in front of an old boat in the area where the Aral Sea once was in Muynak, Uzbekistan.


That’s a nice pic

The water has gone.

Well that’s true

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Date: 4/02/2025 18:43:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2245635
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

June 2023. Fishermen Ali Shadilov, left, and Anvar Saimbetov pose in front of an old boat in the area where the Aral Sea once was in Muynak, Uzbekistan.


That’s a nice pic

The water has gone.

so people do die if the river collapses despite what those anti bridge fellas say

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Date: 4/02/2025 18:44:24
From: dv
ID: 2245637
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

That’s a nice pic

The water has gone.

so people do die if the river collapses despite what those anti bridge fellas say

I think I need more context.

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Date: 4/02/2025 18:45:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 2245638
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

That’s a nice pic

The water has gone.

so people do die if the river collapses despite what those anti bridge fellas say

Something along those lines if that’s where you want to go with it.

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Date: 4/02/2025 21:06:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2245685
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

The water has gone.

so people do die if the river collapses despite what those anti bridge fellas say

I think I need more context.

Boris posted some quote from a fella who was throwing shade on bridge construction and preferred to swim across rivers so claimed that although people die when bridges collapse nobody does from river collapses.

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Date: 4/02/2025 21:24:02
From: dv
ID: 2245688
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

dv said:

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USAid and European Aid agencies have been working with the Kazakh and Uzbek governments to restore vegetation that will aid the recovery.

Remember USAid? Happy times.

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Date: 5/02/2025 00:47:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2245754
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

Bubblecar said:

Camels sheltering by rusting boats, Aral Sea.


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Date: 10/02/2025 10:10:47
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2247706
Subject: re: Aral Sea update

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

June 2023. Fishermen Ali Shadilov, left, and Anvar Saimbetov pose in front of an old boat in the area where the Aral Sea once was in Muynak, Uzbekistan.


That’s a nice pic

The water has gone.


Putin !!!!!!!

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