For MV. I found these interesting papers.

Conclusions: Increasing total dairy intake without energy restriction in adults does not affect body composition. In the context of an energy-restricted diet, however, increased dairy intake results in lower fat mass and body weight but has no conclusive effects on waist circumference or lean mass.

Conclusions: Increased dairy intake as part of an energy restricted diet moderately enhanced bodyweight and fat mass loss in 18-50yr olds. Further research is needed to confirm these effects in men.

buffy said:

For MV. I found these interesting papers.

Conclusions: Increasing total dairy intake without energy restriction in adults does not affect body composition. In the context of an energy-restricted diet, however, increased dairy intake results in lower fat mass and body weight but has no conclusive effects on waist circumference or lean mass.

Conclusions: Increased dairy intake as part of an energy restricted diet moderately enhanced bodyweight and fat mass loss in 18-50yr olds. Further research is needed to confirm these effects in men.

Ta. I’ll have a good read later. (We are going out soon.)

MV, here’s a 2008 study:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18838979/

one from 2014:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000291652305044X

this one from 2011 looks at the effect of Ca from dairy products on LDL (reduction) and HDL (no change):
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-nutrition/article/dairy-calcium-intake-modifies-responsiveness-of-fat-metabolism-and-blood-lipids-to-a-highfat-diet/6F3E7BE9CD931BD909BC6052122763BB

I can’t find the Cochrane review; I recall buffy found it when she was trying to determine whether it was the Ca in dairy that was influencing fat excretion (it wasn’t.)

btm said:

MV, here’s a 2008 study:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18838979/

one from 2014:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000291652305044X

this one from 2011 looks at the effect of Ca from dairy products on LDL (reduction) and HDL (no change):
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-nutrition/article/dairy-calcium-intake-modifies-responsiveness-of-fat-metabolism-and-blood-lipids-to-a-highfat-diet/6F3E7BE9CD931BD909BC6052122763BB

I can’t find the Cochrane review; I recall buffy found it when she was trying to determine whether it was the Ca in dairy that was influencing fat excretion (it wasn’t.)

Don’t think that was me. Might have been Alex?

btm said:

MV, here’s a 2008 study:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18838979/

one from 2014:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000291652305044X

this one from 2011 looks at the effect of Ca from dairy products on LDL (reduction) and HDL (no change):
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-nutrition/article/dairy-calcium-intake-modifies-responsiveness-of-fat-metabolism-and-blood-lipids-to-a-highfat-diet/6F3E7BE9CD931BD909BC6052122763BB

I can’t find the Cochrane review; I recall buffy found it when she was trying to determine whether it was the Ca in dairy that was influencing fat excretion (it wasn’t.)

Ta.

Michael V said:

btm said:

MV, here’s a 2008 study:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18838979/

one from 2014:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000291652305044X

this one from 2011 looks at the effect of Ca from dairy products on LDL (reduction) and HDL (no change):
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-nutrition/article/dairy-calcium-intake-modifies-responsiveness-of-fat-metabolism-and-blood-lipids-to-a-highfat-diet/6F3E7BE9CD931BD909BC6052122763BB

I can’t find the Cochrane review; I recall buffy found it when she was trying to determine whether it was the Ca in dairy that was influencing fat excretion (it wasn’t.)

Ta.

A complex issue to research.