Date: 1/05/2025 02:10:36
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2277422
Subject: Australian politics - May 2025

65 candidates on the Victorian Senate ballot!
How do you decide who to put last?

Honest Government Ad – How to vote 2025:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXHq04W0kBs

Link

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Date: 1/05/2025 06:24:38
From: buffy
ID: 2277431
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

AussieDJ said:


65 candidates on the Victorian Senate ballot!
How do you decide who to put last?

Honest Government Ad – How to vote 2025:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXHq04W0kBs

Link

Or…if you do seriously want to make decisions…these people have done the hard yards and collated the information. I decided there were too many wacky ones that I will not count out to the end. So I’ve made myself a list of the most acceptable 21. My first few won’t make it, but there should be enough for my vote to not be exhausted.

Link

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Date: 1/05/2025 06:29:56
From: buffy
ID: 2277433
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


AussieDJ said:

65 candidates on the Victorian Senate ballot!
How do you decide who to put last?

Honest Government Ad – How to vote 2025:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXHq04W0kBs

Link

Or…if you do seriously want to make decisions…these people have done the hard yards and collated the information. I decided there were too many wacky ones that I will not count out to the end. So I’ve made myself a list of the most acceptable 21. My first few won’t make it, but there should be enough for my vote to not be exhausted.

Link

By the way, I did like that YouTube.

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Date: 1/05/2025 09:32:28
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2277478
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

https://theklaxon.com.au/liberals-give-advance-more-than-govt-spends-on-welcome-to-country/

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:09:19
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277490
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Oh look, Dutton has backflipped again. This time, on education.

“ Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has dropped his vow to change the national school curriculum, after comments earlier in the campaign that students should be able to think freely without being “indoctrinated” by educators.

Mr Dutton confirmed this morning “we don’t have any proposal to change the curriculum”, despite saying in his budget reply address just a month ago that “a Dutton Coalition government will restore a curriculum that teaches the core fundamentals in our classrooms”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/dutton-drops-school-curriculum-indoctrination-woke-agenda/105237316

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:15:34
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2277494
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Oh look, Dutton has backflipped again. This time, on education.

“ Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has dropped his vow to change the national school curriculum, after comments earlier in the campaign that students should be able to think freely without being “indoctrinated” by educators.

Mr Dutton confirmed this morning “we don’t have any proposal to change the curriculum”, despite saying in his budget reply address just a month ago that “a Dutton Coalition government will restore a curriculum that teaches the core fundamentals in our classrooms”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/dutton-drops-school-curriculum-indoctrination-woke-agenda/105237316

I’ll bet he hasn’t a clue what is in the curriculum.

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:21:19
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277496
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Here’s an anecdote:

Last year I was working in the school library. One day I was organising the NF shelves next to the area where classes sit for their weekly library session. It was Space Week or something, and the classes got to watch a short video about space, including the Big Bang.

After one particular class, the relief teacher pooh-poohed the Big Bang, saying God orchestrated the universe perfectly as it is, there’s no evidence to suggest a big bang. At lunch that day int eh staff room, she said kids should be given “all the information” about things so they can make up their own minds.

On my way out I mentioned this to the BM, who replied, “there’s a reason relief teachers are just relief teachers”.

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:32:11
From: kii
ID: 2277498
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Here’s an anecdote:

Last year I was working in the school library. One day I was organising the NF shelves next to the area where classes sit for their weekly library session. It was Space Week or something, and the classes got to watch a short video about space, including the Big Bang.

After one particular class, the relief teacher pooh-poohed the Big Bang, saying God orchestrated the universe perfectly as it is, there’s no evidence to suggest a big bang. At lunch that day int eh staff room, she said kids should be given “all the information” about things so they can make up their own minds.

On my way out I mentioned this to the BM, who replied, “there’s a reason relief teachers are just relief teachers”.

Oh no…I’d have escalated that one right up the line. Fuck ‘em.

Similar thing happened to me with a phlebotomist here in town.

Random superficial conversation and then she casually tells me her opinion about abortion. I’m there with a needle in my vein, in a small room, stuck in a special chair they use for blood drawing. Fuck that shit. I reported her to the front desk.

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:34:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277499
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Oh look, Dutton has backflipped again. This time, on education.

“ Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has dropped his vow to change the national school curriculum, after comments earlier in the campaign that students should be able to think freely without being “indoctrinated” by educators.

Mr Dutton confirmed this morning “we don’t have any proposal to change the curriculum”, despite saying in his budget reply address just a month ago that “a Dutton Coalition government will restore a curriculum that teaches the core fundamentals in our classrooms”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/dutton-drops-school-curriculum-indoctrination-woke-agenda/105237316

Presumably ‘core fundamentals’ would be something like Trump’s and he’s found out that it isn’t working here.

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:35:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2277501
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Oh look, Dutton has backflipped again. This time, on education.

“ Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has dropped his vow to change the national school curriculum, after comments earlier in the campaign that students should be able to think freely without being “indoctrinated” by educators.

Mr Dutton confirmed this morning “we don’t have any proposal to change the curriculum”, despite saying in his budget reply address just a month ago that “a Dutton Coalition government will restore a curriculum that teaches the core fundamentals in our classrooms”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/dutton-drops-school-curriculum-indoctrination-woke-agenda/105237316

Circus performer.

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:36:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277505
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

JudgeMental said:


Divine Angel said:

Oh look, Dutton has backflipped again. This time, on education.

“ Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has dropped his vow to change the national school curriculum, after comments earlier in the campaign that students should be able to think freely without being “indoctrinated” by educators.

Mr Dutton confirmed this morning “we don’t have any proposal to change the curriculum”, despite saying in his budget reply address just a month ago that “a Dutton Coalition government will restore a curriculum that teaches the core fundamentals in our classrooms”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/dutton-drops-school-curriculum-indoctrination-woke-agenda/105237316

I’ll bet he hasn’t a clue what is in the curriculum.

Only what he wanted to put in it.

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:42:54
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277512
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

Oh look, Dutton has backflipped again. This time, on education.

“ Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has dropped his vow to change the national school curriculum, after comments earlier in the campaign that students should be able to think freely without being “indoctrinated” by educators.

Mr Dutton confirmed this morning “we don’t have any proposal to change the curriculum”, despite saying in his budget reply address just a month ago that “a Dutton Coalition government will restore a curriculum that teaches the core fundamentals in our classrooms”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/dutton-drops-school-curriculum-indoctrination-woke-agenda/105237316

Presumably ‘core fundamentals’ would be something like Trump’s and he’s found out that it isn’t working here.

Basically what Gruen said last night. The world was leaning right, then Trump came along, fucked everything up, and now Australia’s leaning left again.

But I suspect part of this late backflip is the Canadian dude losing his safe seat, and Dutton is twitching.

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:45:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277513
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Oh look, Dutton has backflipped again. This time, on education.

“ Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has dropped his vow to change the national school curriculum, after comments earlier in the campaign that students should be able to think freely without being “indoctrinated” by educators.

Mr Dutton confirmed this morning “we don’t have any proposal to change the curriculum”, despite saying in his budget reply address just a month ago that “a Dutton Coalition government will restore a curriculum that teaches the core fundamentals in our classrooms”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/dutton-drops-school-curriculum-indoctrination-woke-agenda/105237316

Presumably ‘core fundamentals’ would be something like Trump’s and he’s found out that it isn’t working here.

Basically what Gruen said last night. The world was leaning right, then Trump came along, fucked everything up, and now Australia’s leaning left again.

But I suspect part of this late backflip is the Canadian dude losing his safe seat, and Dutton is twitching.

He’s probably the closest to losing his seat out of al those attempting to be re-elected.

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:45:55
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2277514
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:

But I suspect part of this late backflip is the Canadian dude losing his safe seat, and Dutton is twitching.

Which country do you think that is Dutton most likely to ‘retire’ to, if things go as badly for him as they seem set to do?

(Never discounting Labor’s talent for not winning the unloseable.)

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:48:02
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277516
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

But I suspect part of this late backflip is the Canadian dude losing his safe seat, and Dutton is twitching.

Which country do you think that is Dutton most likely to ‘retire’ to, if things go as badly for him as they seem set to do?

(Never discounting Labor’s talent for not winning the unloseable.)

I’m not hearing any fat ladies singing yet, so I sprinkle grains of salt around. (Salt is also supposed to keep evil away, just sayin’)

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:53:07
From: Arts
ID: 2277519
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I voted yesterday… over

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:54:09
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2277522
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


I voted yesterday… over

Voting again tomorrow?

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:57:36
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277526
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


I voted yesterday… over

Mr Mutant has just walked out the door for his voting experience.

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Date: 1/05/2025 10:59:36
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2277527
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

But I suspect part of this late backflip is the Canadian dude losing his safe seat, and Dutton is twitching.

Which country do you think that is Dutton most likely to ‘retire’ to, if things go as badly for him as they seem set to do?

(Never discounting Labor’s talent for not winning the unloseable.)

I’m not hearing any fat ladies singing yet, so I sprinkle grains of salt around. (Salt is also supposed to keep evil away, just sayin’)

https://www.iflscience.com/can-a-circle-of-salt-paralyze-a-self-driving-car-66313

Link

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:03:08
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2277531
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


I voted yesterday… over

Did you act like a Karen in the queue for shits and giggles?

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:03:38
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2277532
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Oh look, Dutton has backflipped again. This time, on education.

“ Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has dropped his vow to change the national school curriculum, after comments earlier in the campaign that students should be able to think freely without being “indoctrinated” by educators.

Mr Dutton confirmed this morning “we don’t have any proposal to change the curriculum”, despite saying in his budget reply address just a month ago that “a Dutton Coalition government will restore a curriculum that teaches the core fundamentals in our classrooms”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/dutton-drops-school-curriculum-indoctrination-woke-agenda/105237316

Presumably ‘core fundamentals’ would be something like Trump’s and he’s found out that it isn’t working here.

Basically what Gruen said last night. The world was leaning right, then Trump came along, fucked everything up, and now Australia’s leaning left again.

But I suspect part of this late backflip is the Canadian dude losing his safe seat, and Dutton is twitching.

Yeah, heard him saying something about doing stuff for the homeless this morning.

Definitely trying to sound less of a Trumpet.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:05:17
From: dv
ID: 2277533
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:09:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277535
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


The ladies have interesting stubby holders but surelly that would make their glasses longer than P. D’s.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:09:55
From: dv
ID: 2277537
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


I voted yesterday… over

We’ll mosey on down early Saturday when they have the best food out.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:14:28
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277538
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Looks like one of those Caption This contests

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:15:26
From: Woodie
ID: 2277540
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:16:04
From: ruby
ID: 2277541
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

We’ll mosey on down early Saturday when they have the best food out.

That’s my plan too. The primary school sausage sizzle and/or cake stall have never let me down for yumminess.
And I quite like running the pamphlet gauntlet. I hear the Libs are doing a nice line in desperation this time around which will be fun to contend with.
“We need a change”….“Yes, we do, but not to you lot”

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:16:12
From: kii
ID: 2277543
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

Me.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:16:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2277544
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

At least two of us.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:17:38
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2277545
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

me. but i’m not registered.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:17:52
From: dv
ID: 2277546
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


dv said:

Looks like one of those Caption This contests

Not even sure what to say about it. Dutton looks like he found something in his drink and Hamer appears to be disassociating.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:19:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277547
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

I’ll vote this arvo when I get my flu shot.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:20:00
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2277549
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Woodie said:

Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

At least two of us.

Three of us.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:21:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277551
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

:Dutton hints at Coalition campaign failure as polls show Albanese majority in sight”:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/dutton-hints-at-coalition-campaign-failure/105237478

n short:

Polls suggest Labor is on track to retain its governing majority on Saturday as Peter Dutton all but admitted his campaign performance has been weak.

YouGov said its final 2025 election survey showed Labor’s has 52.9 per cent of the vote, based on two-party preferences, versus the Coalition on 47.1 per cent, which implies a 0.7 per cent swing to Labor from the 2022 election, and is up from the government’s 50.2 per cent recorded by YouGov at the start of the campaign.
What’s next?

The Coalition will seek to emphasise its economic credentials with the release of its budget costings on Thursday.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:22:08
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2277552
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

ruby said:


dv said:

Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

We’ll mosey on down early Saturday when they have the best food out.

That’s my plan too. The primary school sausage sizzle and/or cake stall have never let me down for yumminess.
And I quite like running the pamphlet gauntlet. I hear the Libs are doing a nice line in desperation this time around which will be fun to contend with.
“We need a change”….“Yes, we do, but not to you lot”

If they try that line on me, i might come back with , ‘Yeah, you’re right…something other than Liberal in this seat all the time’.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:22:58
From: Arts
ID: 2277553
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Voting again tomorrow?

maybe saturday

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:23:32
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2277554
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


captain_spalding said:

Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Voting again tomorrow?

maybe saturday

Oh, yeah, Thursday, and all that…

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:24:00
From: Arts
ID: 2277555
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Did you act like a Karen in the queue for shits and giggles?

never.. I just put the envelope in the post box

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:25:34
From: Arts
ID: 2277557
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

ruby said:


dv said:

Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

We’ll mosey on down early Saturday when they have the best food out.

That’s my plan too. The primary school sausage sizzle and/or cake stall have never let me down for yumminess.
And I quite like running the pamphlet gauntlet. I hear the Libs are doing a nice line in desperation this time around which will be fun to contend with.
“We need a change”….“Yes, we do, but not to you lot”

that’s all too peopley for me… and they try to talk to you.. I am happy to forgo a cake (that I dont eat) and will head to Bunnings for a sausage in a bun.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:27:14
From: Arts
ID: 2277558
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

dv said:

Looks like one of those Caption This contests

Not even sure what to say about it. Dutton looks like he found something in his drink and Hamer appears to be disassociating.

I mean it’s a fleeting moment in time, where in life you may not have noticed it or associated one expression with the other but for the time captivating power of the camera…

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:28:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277559
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


dv said:

Divine Angel said:

Looks like one of those Caption This contests

Not even sure what to say about it. Dutton looks like he found something in his drink and Hamer appears to be disassociating.

I mean it’s a fleeting moment in time, where in life you may not have noticed it or associated one expression with the other but for the time captivating power of the camera…

Cameras can freeze frame time.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:28:50
From: Arts
ID: 2277560
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Arts said:

captain_spalding said:

Voting again tomorrow?

maybe saturday

Oh, yeah, Thursday, and all that…

this morning I was telling a colleague that it feels like September … it’s already been quite a year for many of us

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:31:48
From: dv
ID: 2277561
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

dv said:

Not even sure what to say about it. Dutton looks like he found something in his drink and Hamer appears to be disassociating.

I mean it’s a fleeting moment in time, where in life you may not have noticed it or associated one expression with the other but for the time captivating power of the camera…

Cameras can freeze frame time.

I could see it was a rough-cut Tuesday, slow-motion weekdays stare me down, her lipstick reflex got me wound.There were no defects to be found. Snapshot image froze without a sound.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:39:55
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277563
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I need a judge’s ruling on this.

If a spouse doesn’t put Trumpet last, is that a divorceable offence?

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:48:26
From: ruby
ID: 2277567
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Hee hee hee

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:48:39
From: dv
ID: 2277568
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


I need a judge’s ruling on this.

If a spouse doesn’t put Trumpet last, is that a divorceable offence?

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:49:47
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2277570
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

ruby said:


Hee hee hee

Amelia’s just realised that, if the L/NP wins, Peter will be PM.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:50:49
From: Michael V
ID: 2277571
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


LOL

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:54:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2277573
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

Me, at least.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:57:48
From: Michael V
ID: 2277575
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

Me.

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Date: 1/05/2025 11:59:28
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2277576
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

We’ll mosey on down early Saturday when they have the best food out.

Vote early, vote often.

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Date: 1/05/2025 12:01:55
From: Michael V
ID: 2277577
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


I need a judge’s ruling on this.

If a spouse doesn’t put Trumpet last, is that a divorceable offence?

I’d like to hear both sides’ arguments.

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Date: 1/05/2025 12:02:33
From: Michael V
ID: 2277578
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

ruby said:


Hee hee hee

:)

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Date: 1/05/2025 12:03:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2277579
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Anyway, i’m not paying $4 -$5 for a democracy sausage,

‘Mrs S, can i have a democracy sausage?’

’No, we have sausages at home.’

‘But, we don’t have democracy at home.’

’Damn right we don’t, and that’s how it’s gonna stay.’

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Date: 1/05/2025 12:03:43
From: Cymek
ID: 2277580
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

Me.

Mine is sitting on my desk at work
waiting for me to fill it out.

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Date: 1/05/2025 12:04:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2277583
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Cymek said:


Michael V said:

Woodie said:

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

Me.

Mine is sitting on my desk at work
waiting for me to fill it out.

You waiting to see which way the wind blows?

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Date: 1/05/2025 12:04:46
From: Michael V
ID: 2277584
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Anyway, i’m not paying $4 -$5 for a democracy sausage,

‘Mrs S, can i have a democracy sausage?’

’No, we have sausages at home.’

‘But, we don’t have democracy at home.’

’Damn right we don’t, and that’s how it’s gonna stay.’

Ouch!

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Date: 1/05/2025 12:06:38
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2277586
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Anyway, i’m not paying $4 -$5 for a democracy sausage,

‘Mrs S, can i have a democracy sausage?’

’No, we have sausages at home.’

‘But, we don’t have democracy at home.’

’Damn right we don’t, and that’s how it’s gonna stay.’

LOL

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Date: 1/05/2025 12:07:02
From: Michael V
ID: 2277588
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Anyway, i’m not paying $4 -$5 for a democracy sausage,

‘Mrs S, can i have a democracy sausage?’

’No, we have sausages at home.’

‘But, we don’t have democracy at home.’

’Damn right we don’t, and that’s how it’s gonna stay.’

Ouch!

Tag closed.

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Date: 1/05/2025 12:09:48
From: dv
ID: 2277589
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Anyway, i’m not paying $4 -$5 for a democracy sausage,

‘Mrs S, can i have a democracy sausage?’

’No, we have sausages at home.’

‘But, we don’t have democracy at home.’

’Damn right we don’t, and that’s how it’s gonna stay.’

Ha

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Date: 1/05/2025 12:55:50
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2277606
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


captain_spalding said:

Anyway, i’m not paying $4 -$5 for a democracy sausage,

‘Mrs S, can i have a democracy sausage?’

’No, we have sausages at home.’

‘But, we don’t have democracy at home.’

’Damn right we don’t, and that’s how it’s gonna stay.’

LOL

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price would have to be the biggest useful idiot over the entirety of Australian politics:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/dutton-drops-school-curriculum-indoctrination-woke-agenda/105237316

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Date: 1/05/2025 13:31:30
From: buffy
ID: 2277611
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Presumably ‘core fundamentals’ would be something like Trump’s and he’s found out that it isn’t working here.

Basically what Gruen said last night. The world was leaning right, then Trump came along, fucked everything up, and now Australia’s leaning left again.

But I suspect part of this late backflip is the Canadian dude losing his safe seat, and Dutton is twitching.

He’s probably the closest to losing his seat out of al those attempting to be re-elected.

Dan Tehan is very, very worried.

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Date: 1/05/2025 13:38:31
From: buffy
ID: 2277617
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

Me. And mr buffy. We will vote on Saturday. I’ve arranged to meet my bushwandering friend at the polling booth at 8.00am. We will vote and then go for our Saturday breakfast at the bakery.

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Date: 1/05/2025 13:42:58
From: buffy
ID: 2277618
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

ruby said:


dv said:

Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

We’ll mosey on down early Saturday when they have the best food out.

That’s my plan too. The primary school sausage sizzle and/or cake stall have never let me down for yumminess.
And I quite like running the pamphlet gauntlet. I hear the Libs are doing a nice line in desperation this time around which will be fun to contend with.
“We need a change”….“Yes, we do, but not to you lot”

I chatted with one of my favorite patients yesterday as she was handing out how to votes at the early polling station at the Senior Citz in Hamilton. I wasn’t there to vote, I noticed her as we drove past and wandered back for a chat. I agree the Libs are showing desperation – in our electorate of Wannon (used to be Malcolm Fraser’s old seat, now Dan Tehan) they are really doing the nasty stuff against Alex Dyson, an independent who seems to have a really good chance of chucking Dan out. My patient/friend was handing out for Alex. She could be described as landed gentry, but she discarded her blue colours a few years ago. To my great surprise. And there are quite a lot of the Old Liberals also supporting Alex.

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Date: 1/05/2025 13:47:45
From: buffy
ID: 2277619
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


I need a judge’s ruling on this.

If a spouse doesn’t put Trumpet last, is that a divorceable offence?

That would entirely depend on what else was on offer. There are some really, really, really weird independents in some places.

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Date: 1/05/2025 13:50:28
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277620
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Divine Angel said:

I need a judge’s ruling on this.

If a spouse doesn’t put Trumpet last, is that a divorceable offence?

That would entirely depend on what else was on offer. There are some really, really, really weird independents in some places.

Our candidates are Labor, LNP, Trumpet, Family First, Greens, and One Nation.

I would also accept One Nation last, but that’s not what Mr Mutant put last.

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Date: 1/05/2025 13:51:01
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2277621
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Divine Angel said:

I need a judge’s ruling on this.

If a spouse doesn’t put Trumpet last, is that a divorceable offence?

That would entirely depend on what else was on offer. There are some really, really, really weird independents in some places.

Quite apert from which, surely putting LibNats or One Nation last is an entirely acceptable alternative.

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Date: 1/05/2025 13:54:00
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277622
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

One of the architects of Donald Trump’s 2024 victory claims he made an unpublicised visit to Australia to advise the Liberal party about “structural issues” related to Peter Dutton ahead of the federal election.

The veteran Republican strategist Chris LaCivita told undercover reporters posing as prospective clients for political consulting work he was working as a private consultant on the visit to Australia, not in an official capacity or as an adviser to the US president.

Footage of the undercover conversations was published on Thursday by the Europe-based organisations Correctiv and the Centre for Climate Reporting.

‘‘I was in Australia two weeks ago helping the Liberal party there, on some of their structural issues that they were having with Peter Dutton,” LaCivita said on 16 April in the first of two calls. Australia’s election campaign began on 28 March.

“Things somewhat seem to be moving in the right direction there… those efforts are strictly political in nature and don’t require me to engage with the United States government.”

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/may/01/trump-campaign-chief-lacivita-liberal-party-australia-ntwnfb-election-claims

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Date: 1/05/2025 14:01:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2277623
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


AussieDJ said:

65 candidates on the Victorian Senate ballot!
How do you decide who to put last?

Honest Government Ad – How to vote 2025:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXHq04W0kBs

Link

Or…if you do seriously want to make decisions…these people have done the hard yards and collated the information. I decided there were too many wacky ones that I will not count out to the end. So I’ve made myself a list of the most acceptable 21. My first few won’t make it, but there should be enough for my vote to not be exhausted.

Link

Just checked buffy’s link, and there is one for NSW too:
https://www.somethingforcate.net/category/nsw/

I see I get the option of a vote for Fusion in the lower house (Berowra), lucky me.

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Date: 1/05/2025 14:05:25
From: Tamb
ID: 2277624
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Woodie said:

Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

Me. And mr buffy. We will vote on Saturday. I’ve arranged to meet my bushwandering friend at the polling booth at 8.00am. We will vote and then go for our Saturday breakfast at the bakery.


Not me either.
Computer is misbehaving & needs to be fixer before the long weekend.

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Date: 1/05/2025 14:08:51
From: Tamb
ID: 2277625
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tamb said:


buffy said:

Woodie said:

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

Me. And mr buffy. We will vote on Saturday. I’ve arranged to meet my bushwandering friend at the polling booth at 8.00am. We will vote and then go for our Saturday breakfast at the bakery.


Not me either.
Computer is misbehaving & needs to be fixer before the long weekend.


fixer = fixed.

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Date: 1/05/2025 14:09:47
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2277626
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tamb said:


Tamb said:

buffy said:

Me. And mr buffy. We will vote on Saturday. I’ve arranged to meet my bushwandering friend at the polling booth at 8.00am. We will vote and then go for our Saturday breakfast at the bakery.


Not me either.
Computer is misbehaving & needs to be fixer before the long weekend.


fixer = fixed.


PWM is a fixer.

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Date: 1/05/2025 14:35:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2277630
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Just donated $12 to Getup to help them keep Dutton out.

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Date: 1/05/2025 14:41:46
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2277631
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Just donated $12 to Getup to help them keep Dutton out.

I think I got the same email. Isn’t there a media black out?

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Date: 1/05/2025 14:55:01
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2277633
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Just donated $12 to Getup to help them keep Dutton out.

I think I got the same email. Isn’t there a media black out?

There is for radio & TV but:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/how-political-parties-can-legally-spam-voters-during-the-federal-election

apart from which, I’m quite happy to donate $12 to getup to help cover cots so far.

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:03:30
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2277635
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Woodie said:

Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

Me. And mr buffy. We will vote on Saturday. I’ve arranged to meet my bushwandering friend at the polling booth at 8.00am. We will vote and then go for our Saturday breakfast at the bakery.

Nothing like getting up and walking down tot he polling booth and casting your vote on the actual day

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:10:22
From: Michael V
ID: 2277636
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Anyway, i’m not paying $4 -$5 for a democracy sausage,

‘Mrs S, can i have a democracy sausage?’

’No, we have sausages at home.’

‘But, we don’t have democracy at home.’

’Damn right we don’t, and that’s how it’s gonna stay.’

LOL

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price would have to be the biggest useful idiot over the entirety of Australian politics:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/dutton-drops-school-curriculum-indoctrination-woke-agenda/105237316

Jacinta Price only deserves to be called “Jacinta Price”.

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:14:29
From: Arts
ID: 2277637
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


buffy said:

Woodie said:

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

Me. And mr buffy. We will vote on Saturday. I’ve arranged to meet my bushwandering friend at the polling booth at 8.00am. We will vote and then go for our Saturday breakfast at the bakery.

Nothing like getting up and walking down tot he polling booth and casting your vote on the actual day

nerds

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:15:41
From: buffy
ID: 2277638
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


diddly-squat said:

buffy said:

Me. And mr buffy. We will vote on Saturday. I’ve arranged to meet my bushwandering friend at the polling booth at 8.00am. We will vote and then go for our Saturday breakfast at the bakery.

Nothing like getting up and walking down tot he polling booth and casting your vote on the actual day

nerds

Well, they can’t start counting until the polling places close, so you might as well make a thing of it.

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:16:57
From: Tamb
ID: 2277640
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Arts said:

diddly-squat said:

Nothing like getting up and walking down tot he polling booth and casting your vote on the actual day

nerds

Well, they can’t start counting until the polling places close, so you might as well make a thing of it.


I live in hope of a democracy sausage.

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:20:10
From: Michael V
ID: 2277641
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


One of the architects of Donald Trump’s 2024 victory claims he made an unpublicised visit to Australia to advise the Liberal party about “structural issues” related to Peter Dutton ahead of the federal election.

The veteran Republican strategist Chris LaCivita told undercover reporters posing as prospective clients for political consulting work he was working as a private consultant on the visit to Australia, not in an official capacity or as an adviser to the US president.

Footage of the undercover conversations was published on Thursday by the Europe-based organisations Correctiv and the Centre for Climate Reporting.

‘‘I was in Australia two weeks ago helping the Liberal party there, on some of their structural issues that they were having with Peter Dutton,” LaCivita said on 16 April in the first of two calls. Australia’s election campaign began on 28 March.

“Things somewhat seem to be moving in the right direction there… those efforts are strictly political in nature and don’t require me to engage with the United States government.”

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/may/01/trump-campaign-chief-lacivita-liberal-party-australia-ntwnfb-election-claims

Perceived foreign interference.

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:20:20
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2277642
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


diddly-squat said:

buffy said:

Me. And mr buffy. We will vote on Saturday. I’ve arranged to meet my bushwandering friend at the polling booth at 8.00am. We will vote and then go for our Saturday breakfast at the bakery.

Nothing like getting up and walking down tot he polling booth and casting your vote on the actual day

nerds

gotta go get your vote on

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:24:00
From: Michael V
ID: 2277644
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tamb said:


buffy said:

Arts said:

nerds

Well, they can’t start counting until the polling places close, so you might as well make a thing of it.


I live in hope of a democracy sausage.

So do I. But nobody does them here.

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:25:51
From: dv
ID: 2277645
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Just going by polling, you’d think the following Libs would be most at risk

James Stevens (SA Sturt)
Ian Goodenough (WA Moore) actually he sits as an indie now but it is otherwise a seat won by the Libs in 2022
Andrew Hastie (WA Canning)
Peter Dutton (Qld Dickson)
David Coleman (NSW Banks)

These Labor members are most at risk from Liberals
Carina Garland (VIC Chisholm)
Rob Mitchell (VIC McEwen)

Some 5 weeks ago I said Dickson is an unlikely prospect because it was still looking like there’d be a swing to LNP in Qld and Dutton’s preferred PM numbers were looking decent. Now it appears there will be maybe a 1% swing to ALP in Qld and Dutton is back to 31% in the preferred PM polls.

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:28:03
From: dv
ID: 2277647
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


One of the architects of Donald Trump’s 2024 victory claims he made an unpublicised visit to Australia to advise the Liberal party about “structural issues” related to Peter Dutton ahead of the federal election.

The veteran Republican strategist Chris LaCivita told undercover reporters posing as prospective clients for political consulting work he was working as a private consultant on the visit to Australia, not in an official capacity or as an adviser to the US president.

Footage of the undercover conversations was published on Thursday by the Europe-based organisations Correctiv and the Centre for Climate Reporting.

‘‘I was in Australia two weeks ago helping the Liberal party there, on some of their structural issues that they were having with Peter Dutton,” LaCivita said on 16 April in the first of two calls. Australia’s election campaign began on 28 March.

“Things somewhat seem to be moving in the right direction there… those efforts are strictly political in nature and don’t require me to engage with the United States government.”

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/may/01/trump-campaign-chief-lacivita-liberal-party-australia-ntwnfb-election-claims

Lol what

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:37:58
From: Arts
ID: 2277651
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Arts said:

diddly-squat said:

Nothing like getting up and walking down tot he polling booth and casting your vote on the actual day

nerds

Well, they can’t start counting until the polling places close, so you might as well make a thing of it.

many of us are very busy all of the time, and also do not play well with others. Despite my jesting about peopling – it really does give me anxiety to be in a crowd (even a small one) it is simply not a pleasant experience for me… and I have mild anxiety .. I cant imagine what it’s like for someone with more than that… so I, for one, welcome postal voting

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:46:32
From: furious
ID: 2277653
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


buffy said:

Arts said:

nerds

Well, they can’t start counting until the polling places close, so you might as well make a thing of it.

many of us are very busy all of the time, and also do not play well with others. Despite my jesting about peopling – it really does give me anxiety to be in a crowd (even a small one) it is simply not a pleasant experience for me… and I have mild anxiety .. I cant imagine what it’s like for someone with more than that… so I, for one, welcome postal voting

I thought legitimate reasons were required to vote early, not just because “I want to”. I’m with you about the crowd but my local polling place is usually not too bad. The recent state election, I’m sure U was there for less than two minutes…

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:47:10
From: furious
ID: 2277655
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

furious said:


Arts said:

buffy said:

Well, they can’t start counting until the polling places close, so you might as well make a thing of it.

many of us are very busy all of the time, and also do not play well with others. Despite my jesting about peopling – it really does give me anxiety to be in a crowd (even a small one) it is simply not a pleasant experience for me… and I have mild anxiety .. I cant imagine what it’s like for someone with more than that… so I, for one, welcome postal voting

I thought legitimate reasons were required to vote early, not just because “I want to”. I’m with you about the crowd but my local polling place is usually not too bad. The recent state election, I’m sure I was there for less than two minutes…

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:52:51
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2277659
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

furious said:


Arts said:

buffy said:

Well, they can’t start counting until the polling places close, so you might as well make a thing of it.

many of us are very busy all of the time, and also do not play well with others. Despite my jesting about peopling – it really does give me anxiety to be in a crowd (even a small one) it is simply not a pleasant experience for me… and I have mild anxiety .. I cant imagine what it’s like for someone with more than that… so I, for one, welcome postal voting

I thought legitimate reasons were required to vote early, not just because “I want to”. I’m with you about the crowd but my local polling place is usually not too bad. The recent state election, I’m sure U was there for less than two minutes…

you can vote early or postal vote for any reason you so desire

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:55:05
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2277660
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Just donated $12 to Getup to help them keep Dutton out.

I think I got the same email. Isn’t there a media black out?

There is for radio & TV but:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/how-political-parties-can-legally-spam-voters-during-the-federal-election

apart from which, I’m quite happy to donate $12 to getup to help cover cots so far.

Oh yeah I forgot about online ads.

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:56:24
From: furious
ID: 2277662
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


furious said:

Arts said:

many of us are very busy all of the time, and also do not play well with others. Despite my jesting about peopling – it really does give me anxiety to be in a crowd (even a small one) it is simply not a pleasant experience for me… and I have mild anxiety .. I cant imagine what it’s like for someone with more than that… so I, for one, welcome postal voting

I thought legitimate reasons were required to vote early, not just because “I want to”. I’m with you about the crowd but my local polling place is usually not too bad. The recent state election, I’m sure U was there for less than two minutes…

you can vote early or postal vote for any reason you so desire

“Because I want to” isn’t listed…

You can vote early either in person or by post if on polling day you:

are outside the electorate where you are enrolled to vote
are more than 8km from a polling place
are travelling
are unable to leave your workplace to vote
are seriously ill, infirm or due to give birth shortly (or caring for someone who is)
are a person with disability (or caring for someone who is)
are a patient in hospital and can’t vote at the hospital
have religious beliefs that prevent you from attending a polling place
are in prison serving a sentence of less than three years or otherwise detained
are a silent elector
have a reasonable fear for your safety or wellbeing.

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Date: 1/05/2025 15:57:12
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2277664
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


buffy said:

Arts said:

nerds

Well, they can’t start counting until the polling places close, so you might as well make a thing of it.

many of us are very busy all of the time, and also do not play well with others. Despite my jesting about peopling – it really does give me anxiety to be in a crowd (even a small one) it is simply not a pleasant experience for me… and I have mild anxiety .. I cant imagine what it’s like for someone with more than that… so I, for one, welcome postal voting

They have medication for that. Or alcohol.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:00:11
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2277666
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

furious said:


Arts said:

buffy said:

Well, they can’t start counting until the polling places close, so you might as well make a thing of it.

many of us are very busy all of the time, and also do not play well with others. Despite my jesting about peopling – it really does give me anxiety to be in a crowd (even a small one) it is simply not a pleasant experience for me… and I have mild anxiety .. I cant imagine what it’s like for someone with more than that… so I, for one, welcome postal voting

I thought legitimate reasons were required to vote early, not just because “I want to”. I’m with you about the crowd but my local polling place is usually not too bad. The recent state election, I’m sure U was there for less than two minutes…

I’m hearing of had long waits at some pre-polls which sort of ruins the incentive to vote early from a few electoral cycles back when pre-poll was quicker. But that’s just me. I don’t care when I vote I just want it to be quick.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:01:00
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2277667
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

furious said:


diddly-squat said:

furious said:

I thought legitimate reasons were required to vote early, not just because “I want to”. I’m with you about the crowd but my local polling place is usually not too bad. The recent state election, I’m sure U was there for less than two minutes…

you can vote early or postal vote for any reason you so desire

“Because I want to” isn’t listed…

You can vote early either in person or by post if on polling day you:

are outside the electorate where you are enrolled to vote
are more than 8km from a polling place
are travelling
are unable to leave your workplace to vote
are seriously ill, infirm or due to give birth shortly (or caring for someone who is)
are a person with disability (or caring for someone who is)
are a patient in hospital and can’t vote at the hospital
have religious beliefs that prevent you from attending a polling place
are in prison serving a sentence of less than three years or otherwise detained
are a silent elector
have a reasonable fear for your safety or wellbeing.

I’m not sure if you have voted early before or even submitted a postal vote, but no one is there checking off your reasons against some register.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:02:35
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2277669
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


furious said:

Arts said:

many of us are very busy all of the time, and also do not play well with others. Despite my jesting about peopling – it really does give me anxiety to be in a crowd (even a small one) it is simply not a pleasant experience for me… and I have mild anxiety .. I cant imagine what it’s like for someone with more than that… so I, for one, welcome postal voting

I thought legitimate reasons were required to vote early, not just because “I want to”. I’m with you about the crowd but my local polling place is usually not too bad. The recent state election, I’m sure U was there for less than two minutes…

I’m hearing of had long waits at some pre-polls which sort of ruins the incentive to vote early from a few electoral cycles back when pre-poll was quicker. But that’s just me. I don’t care when I vote I just want it to be quick.

I don’t think I’ve ever waited any significant duration to vote… go in, wait a few min to check off your name and get you ballot and then Robert is your mother’s brother…

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:03:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2277670
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


furious said:

diddly-squat said:

you can vote early or postal vote for any reason you so desire

“Because I want to” isn’t listed…

You can vote early either in person or by post if on polling day you:

are outside the electorate where you are enrolled to vote
are more than 8km from a polling place
are travelling
are unable to leave your workplace to vote
are seriously ill, infirm or due to give birth shortly (or caring for someone who is)
are a person with disability (or caring for someone who is)
are a patient in hospital and can’t vote at the hospital
have religious beliefs that prevent you from attending a polling place
are in prison serving a sentence of less than three years or otherwise detained
are a silent elector
have a reasonable fear for your safety or wellbeing.

I’m not sure if you have voted early before or even submitted a postal vote, but no one is there checking off your reasons against some register.

Lies make baby Jesus cry.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:04:10
From: Arts
ID: 2277671
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

furious said:


Arts said:

buffy said:

Well, they can’t start counting until the polling places close, so you might as well make a thing of it.

many of us are very busy all of the time, and also do not play well with others. Despite my jesting about peopling – it really does give me anxiety to be in a crowd (even a small one) it is simply not a pleasant experience for me… and I have mild anxiety .. I cant imagine what it’s like for someone with more than that… so I, for one, welcome postal voting

I thought legitimate reasons were required to vote early, not just because “I want to”. I’m with you about the crowd but my local polling place is usually not too bad. The recent state election, I’m sure U was there for less than two minutes…

I also postal voted that one

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:04:17
From: Tamb
ID: 2277672
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


furious said:

Arts said:

many of us are very busy all of the time, and also do not play well with others. Despite my jesting about peopling – it really does give me anxiety to be in a crowd (even a small one) it is simply not a pleasant experience for me… and I have mild anxiety .. I cant imagine what it’s like for someone with more than that… so I, for one, welcome postal voting

I thought legitimate reasons were required to vote early, not just because “I want to”. I’m with you about the crowd but my local polling place is usually not too bad. The recent state election, I’m sure U was there for less than two minutes…

I’m hearing of had long waits at some pre-polls which sort of ruins the incentive to vote early from a few electoral cycles back when pre-poll was quicker. But that’s just me. I don’t care when I vote I just want it to be quick.


I’m in a small country town so voting is a time to chat with others in the line and possibly have some pastry with them afterwards.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:04:59
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2277673
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tamb said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

furious said:

I thought legitimate reasons were required to vote early, not just because “I want to”. I’m with you about the crowd but my local polling place is usually not too bad. The recent state election, I’m sure U was there for less than two minutes…

I’m hearing of had long waits at some pre-polls which sort of ruins the incentive to vote early from a few electoral cycles back when pre-poll was quicker. But that’s just me. I don’t care when I vote I just want it to be quick.


I’m in a small country town so voting is a time to chat with others in the line and possibly have some pastry with them afterwards.


The horror.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:05:51
From: furious
ID: 2277675
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


furious said:

diddly-squat said:

you can vote early or postal vote for any reason you so desire

“Because I want to” isn’t listed…

You can vote early either in person or by post if on polling day you:

are outside the electorate where you are enrolled to vote
are more than 8km from a polling place
are travelling
are unable to leave your workplace to vote
are seriously ill, infirm or due to give birth shortly (or caring for someone who is)
are a person with disability (or caring for someone who is)
are a patient in hospital and can’t vote at the hospital
have religious beliefs that prevent you from attending a polling place
are in prison serving a sentence of less than three years or otherwise detained
are a silent elector
have a reasonable fear for your safety or wellbeing.

I’m not sure if you have voted early before or even submitted a postal vote, but no one is there checking off your reasons against some register.

I have voted early, and postal voted, in the past. I am aware they seldom ask why. Even when I had legitimate reasons. However, there is a list of legitimate reasons available directly from the AEC. I did not make these up…

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:07:08
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2277676
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


Tamb said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I’m hearing of had long waits at some pre-polls which sort of ruins the incentive to vote early from a few electoral cycles back when pre-poll was quicker. But that’s just me. I don’t care when I vote I just want it to be quick.


I’m in a small country town so voting is a time to chat with others in the line and possibly have some pastry with them afterwards.


The horror.

human interactions are not look upon favorably here, Witty….

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:07:18
From: Arts
ID: 2277677
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

you all should be getting more upset about someone who donkey votes…

I still do my civic duty, just in a different form…

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:08:21
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2277679
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

furious said:


diddly-squat said:

furious said:

“Because I want to” isn’t listed…

You can vote early either in person or by post if on polling day you:

are outside the electorate where you are enrolled to vote
are more than 8km from a polling place
are travelling
are unable to leave your workplace to vote
are seriously ill, infirm or due to give birth shortly (or caring for someone who is)
are a person with disability (or caring for someone who is)
are a patient in hospital and can’t vote at the hospital
have religious beliefs that prevent you from attending a polling place
are in prison serving a sentence of less than three years or otherwise detained
are a silent elector
have a reasonable fear for your safety or wellbeing.

I’m not sure if you have voted early before or even submitted a postal vote, but no one is there checking off your reasons against some register.

I have voted early, and postal voted, in the past. I am aware they seldom ask why. Even when I had legitimate reasons. However, there is a list of legitimate reasons available directly from the AEC. I did not make these up…

I’m not saying you did, all I’m saying is that the “reasons” are immaterial. If people want to vote early, no one is going to stop them., nor should they.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:11:38
From: Michael V
ID: 2277681
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

furious said:

I thought legitimate reasons were required to vote early, not just because “I want to”. I’m with you about the crowd but my local polling place is usually not too bad. The recent state election, I’m sure U was there for less than two minutes…

I’m hearing of had long waits at some pre-polls which sort of ruins the incentive to vote early from a few electoral cycles back when pre-poll was quicker. But that’s just me. I don’t care when I vote I just want it to be quick.

I don’t think I’ve ever waited any significant duration to vote… go in, wait a few min to check off your name and get you ballot and then Robert is your mother’s brother…

Moranbah was awful. Around 3 hours.

FIFO workforce. People registered elsewhere.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:14:22
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2277682
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


diddly-squat said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I’m hearing of had long waits at some pre-polls which sort of ruins the incentive to vote early from a few electoral cycles back when pre-poll was quicker. But that’s just me. I don’t care when I vote I just want it to be quick.

I don’t think I’ve ever waited any significant duration to vote… go in, wait a few min to check off your name and get you ballot and then Robert is your mother’s brother…

Moranbah was awful. Around 3 hours.

FIFO workforce. People registered elsewhere.

yeah.. I think absentee voting is painful everywhere, but could see Moranbah being especially so.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:14:39
From: furious
ID: 2277683
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


you all should be getting more upset about someone who donkey votes…

I still do my civic duty, just in a different form…

Yes, Dexter…

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:18:48
From: buffy
ID: 2277684
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

buffy said:

Well, they can’t start counting until the polling places close, so you might as well make a thing of it.


I live in hope of a democracy sausage.

So do I. But nobody does them here.

I think they only exist in people’s imagination. I’ve never seen one. Maybe it’s a city thing.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:21:46
From: furious
ID: 2277685
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

I live in hope of a democracy sausage.

So do I. But nobody does them here.

I think they only exist in people’s imagination. I’ve never seen one. Maybe it’s a city thing.

None at my local, and it’s a church, a place primed for fund raising activity…

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:21:48
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277686
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

I live in hope of a democracy sausage.

So do I. But nobody does them here.

I think they only exist in people’s imagination. I’ve never seen one. Maybe it’s a city thing.

Pretty sure I didn’t imagine the election day BBQs I served at. Schools often have them to fundraise. Mini Me’s school isn’t this time due to lack of volunteers.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:22:37
From: dv
ID: 2277687
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025


Just had this ad pop up with Tucker Carlson talking about how much he admires Clive Palmer.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:25:41
From: buffy
ID: 2277689
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tamb said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

furious said:

I thought legitimate reasons were required to vote early, not just because “I want to”. I’m with you about the crowd but my local polling place is usually not too bad. The recent state election, I’m sure U was there for less than two minutes…

I’m hearing of had long waits at some pre-polls which sort of ruins the incentive to vote early from a few electoral cycles back when pre-poll was quicker. But that’s just me. I don’t care when I vote I just want it to be quick.


I’m in a small country town so voting is a time to chat with others in the line and possibly have some pastry with them afterwards.

And then there was the time when Alby (deaf as a post) couldn’t hear the questions the young lady was asking him (name, etc) and someone else had step up to tell her for him/shout the questions into his ear (I can’t actually remember which way it happened now. But everyone in the room heard all of that conversation that day. But we all knew Alby anyway. That bit of theatre will never be repeated, he was an old man then and he has died now.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:25:44
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277690
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:



Just had this ad pop up with Tucker Carlson talking about how much he admires Clive Palmer.

Did you vomit all over your screen

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:26:19
From: dv
ID: 2277691
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


buffy said:

Michael V said:

So do I. But nobody does them here.

I think they only exist in people’s imagination. I’ve never seen one. Maybe it’s a city thing.

Pretty sure I didn’t imagine the election day BBQs I served at. Schools often have them to fundraise. Mini Me’s school isn’t this time due to lack of volunteers.

There’s always a sumptuous spread of burgers and sausages at our local polling place, not to mention cakes.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:27:26
From: buffy
ID: 2277692
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


you all should be getting more upset about someone who donkey votes…

I still do my civic duty, just in a different form…

It doesn’t bother me about donkey voters. Aren’t we supposed to respect their decision to do that? Just feel sorry for them that they don’t use the brains the good lord gave them. (I seem to channel my mother a lot…)

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:27:31
From: Arts
ID: 2277693
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

furious said:


Arts said:

you all should be getting more upset about someone who donkey votes…

I still do my civic duty, just in a different form…

Yes, Dexter…

heh – I watched the whole first series, then started watching the second series and it had lost it’s touch… so I didn’t finish that one – though I guess I was getting bored by the end of the first so I dont know what I was expecting

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:33:05
From: Michael V
ID: 2277695
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:



Just had this ad pop up with Tucker Carlson talking about how much he admires Clive Palmer.

FMD!

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:35:09
From: kii
ID: 2277696
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


you all should be getting more upset about someone who donkey votes…

I still do my civic duty, just in a different form…

Seriously? People here are upset with you for not lining up on election day?

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:35:40
From: furious
ID: 2277697
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Arts said:

you all should be getting more upset about someone who donkey votes…

I still do my civic duty, just in a different form…

Seriously? People here are upset with you for not lining up on election day?

No

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:37:23
From: dv
ID: 2277698
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:37:26
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2277699
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

furious said:


kii said:

Arts said:

you all should be getting more upset about someone who donkey votes…

I still do my civic duty, just in a different form…

Seriously? People here are upset with you for not lining up on election day?

No

+1

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:40:30
From: dv
ID: 2277701
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

It took me a few goes to parse this headline.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:40:44
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277702
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

furious said:


kii said:

Arts said:

you all should be getting more upset about someone who donkey votes…

I still do my civic duty, just in a different form…

Seriously? People here are upset with you for not lining up on election day?

No

Your handle says otherwise

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:43:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2277703
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

AussieDJ said:


65 candidates on the Victorian Senate ballot!
How do you decide who to put last?

Honest Government Ad – How to vote 2025:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXHq04W0kBs

Link

Heh.

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:46:07
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2277704
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


furious said:

kii said:

Seriously? People here are upset with you for not lining up on election day?

No

Your handle says otherwise

Mr Perkins: Are you mad!?

Headmaster: I’m FURIOUS!

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:53:32
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2277705
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:



Just had this ad pop up with Tucker Carlson talking about how much he admires Clive Palmer.

We’ll he’s no Putin…

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:55:21
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2277706
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Arts said:

you all should be getting more upset about someone who donkey votes…

I still do my civic duty, just in a different form…

Seriously? People here are upset with you for not lining up on election day?

I’m not upset with Arts about that..

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Date: 1/05/2025 16:58:34
From: kii
ID: 2277708
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


kii said:

Arts said:

you all should be getting more upset about someone who donkey votes…

I still do my civic duty, just in a different form…

Seriously? People here are upset with you for not lining up on election day?

I’m not upset with Arts about that..

Exactly! There’s heaps that one can be upset with Arts about.

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Date: 1/05/2025 17:20:47
From: Michael V
ID: 2277711
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

JudgeMental said:


furious said:

kii said:

Seriously? People here are upset with you for not lining up on election day?

No

+1

^

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Date: 1/05/2025 17:40:15
From: Arts
ID: 2277715
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Arts said:

you all should be getting more upset about someone who donkey votes…

I still do my civic duty, just in a different form…

Seriously? People here are upset with you for not lining up on election day?

nah just gentle ribbing about my chronic condition

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Date: 1/05/2025 17:41:02
From: Arts
ID: 2277716
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

kii said:

Seriously? People here are upset with you for not lining up on election day?

I’m not upset with Arts about that..

Exactly! There’s heaps that one can be upset with Arts about.

join the queue

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Date: 1/05/2025 18:00:09
From: dv
ID: 2277722
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


JudgeMental said:

furious said:

No

+1

^

Good

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Date: 1/05/2025 18:51:56
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2277732
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Pauline Hanson looks good in this outfit, she should wear it all the time.

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Date: 1/05/2025 19:08:53
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2277737
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Extreme – Shock – Horror!

One of the independents in Berowra has her posters screwed to trees!!

Sometimes on public land!!!

How can we accept such hypocrisy????

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Date: 1/05/2025 19:18:16
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2277738
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Extreme – Shock – Horror!

One of the independents in Berowra has her posters screwed to trees!!

Sometimes on public land!!!

How can we accept such hypocrisy????

It’s important to stay focused on the big issues like these

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Date: 1/05/2025 19:43:29
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2277740
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 1/05/2025 19:48:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2277741
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


JudgeMental said:

Divine Angel said:

Oh look, Dutton has backflipped again. This time, on education.

“ Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has dropped his vow to change the national school curriculum, after comments earlier in the campaign that students should be able to think freely without being “indoctrinated” by educators.

Mr Dutton confirmed this morning “we don’t have any proposal to change the curriculum”, despite saying in his budget reply address just a month ago that “a Dutton Coalition government will restore a curriculum that teaches the core fundamentals in our classrooms”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/dutton-drops-school-curriculum-indoctrination-woke-agenda/105237316

I’ll bet he hasn’t a clue what is in the curriculum.

Only what he wanted to put in it.

^ ^^

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Date: 1/05/2025 19:50:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2277742
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


ruby said:

Hee hee hee

Amelia’s just realised that, if the L/NP wins, Peter will be PM.

why are they drinking Flavor Aid from teal branded cups is what everyone wants to know

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Date: 1/05/2025 19:57:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2277744
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:



Just had this ad pop up with Tucker Carlson talking about how much he admires Clive Palmer.

totally not collusion just totally accidental incidental unexpected tacit synchronisation oh yes

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Date: 1/05/2025 20:00:16
From: party_pants
ID: 2277745
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:



What a fucking terrible poster.

I mean, white writing on a yellow background. I struggled to read it.

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Date: 1/05/2025 20:03:58
From: Woodie
ID: 2277747
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Spiny Norman said:


What a fucking terrible poster.

I mean, white writing on a yellow background. I struggled to read it.

That picture is worth a thousand words, Mr Panty Parts.

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Date: 1/05/2025 20:10:23
From: party_pants
ID: 2277750
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


party_pants said:

Spiny Norman said:


What a fucking terrible poster.

I mean, white writing on a yellow background. I struggled to read it.

That picture is worth a thousand words, Mr Panty Parts.

If it’s got words, I want to read the words. My eye is naturally drawn to them.

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Date: 1/05/2025 20:38:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2277758
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Just donated $12 to Getup to help them keep Dutton out.

… and just received an e-mail from nswlibs asking for $1500 :))

OK, they’ll settle for $25 if that’s all I’m willing to cough up.

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Date: 1/05/2025 20:47:08
From: Woodie
ID: 2277761
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Just donated $12 to Getup to help them keep Dutton out.

… and just received an e-mail from nswlibs asking for $1500 :))

OK, they’ll settle for $25 if that’s all I’m willing to cough up.

I can beat that one, Mr Dodgy Rev. This one went straight to junk. 😮 With a big DONATE button further down.

Straight to “junk” it went. I didn’t have to do a thing. 😁

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Date: 1/05/2025 20:59:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2277768
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Pete to score a come from behind win that will be talked about for years and lead Australian to sunlit uplands.
Over.

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Date: 1/05/2025 21:14:51
From: dv
ID: 2277778
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


Pete to score a come from behind win that will be talked about for years and lead Australian to sunlit uplands.
Over.

Not impossible.

I think it would be a minority govt though. I can’t see the Lishun picking up 23 seats, net, from here.

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Date: 1/05/2025 21:17:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2277781
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Pete to score a come from behind win that will be talked about for years and lead Australian to sunlit uplands.
Over.

Not impossible.

I think it would be a minority govt though. I can’t see the Lishun picking up 23 seats, net, from here.

I think it’s a matter of saving the furniture.

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Date: 1/05/2025 21:33:42
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2277785
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Pete to score a come from behind win that will be talked about for years and lead Australian to sunlit uplands.
Over.

Not impossible.

I think it would be a minority govt though. I can’t see the Lishun picking up 23 seats, net, from here.

I think it’s a matter of saving the furniture.

Vance: Fuck the furniture!

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Date: 1/05/2025 21:35:44
From: party_pants
ID: 2277786
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


Pete to score a come from behind win that will be talked about for years and lead Australian to sunlit uplands.
Over.

The smart money on on the ALP being returned with a small number of extra seats.

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Date: 1/05/2025 21:57:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2277791
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

ah well all we need for some balance now is someone

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/hubei-group-head-denies-beijing-federal-election-2025/105238556

accusing volunteers and groups of being drones and fronts for mainland Taiwan and it’ll all be fully legit’

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Date: 2/05/2025 06:58:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277817
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Woodie said:

Arts said:

I voted yesterday… over

Is there anybody on here that hasn’t voted yet?

Me. And mr buffy. We will vote on Saturday. I’ve arranged to meet my bushwandering friend at the polling booth at 8.00am. We will vote and then go for our Saturday breakfast at the bakery.

I did it yesterday after my flu shot. Tried to get my friend with Parkinsons to tell me whether someone had taken him down to vote but thoough I could hear him clearly, he could not hear me. So I’ll have to go in and see whether he has vote and if not, get to a booth. Then try and Get Telstra off their arses to fix the landlines.

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Date: 2/05/2025 06:58:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277818
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


ruby said:

dv said:

We’ll mosey on down early Saturday when they have the best food out.

That’s my plan too. The primary school sausage sizzle and/or cake stall have never let me down for yumminess.
And I quite like running the pamphlet gauntlet. I hear the Libs are doing a nice line in desperation this time around which will be fun to contend with.
“We need a change”….“Yes, we do, but not to you lot”

I chatted with one of my favorite patients yesterday as she was handing out how to votes at the early polling station at the Senior Citz in Hamilton. I wasn’t there to vote, I noticed her as we drove past and wandered back for a chat. I agree the Libs are showing desperation – in our electorate of Wannon (used to be Malcolm Fraser’s old seat, now Dan Tehan) they are really doing the nasty stuff against Alex Dyson, an independent who seems to have a really good chance of chucking Dan out. My patient/friend was handing out for Alex. She could be described as landed gentry, but she discarded her blue colours a few years ago. To my great surprise. And there are quite a lot of the Old Liberals also supporting Alex.

Good.

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Date: 2/05/2025 06:59:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277819
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

I need a judge’s ruling on this.

If a spouse doesn’t put Trumpet last, is that a divorceable offence?

That would entirely depend on what else was on offer. There are some really, really, really weird independents in some places.

Our candidates are Labor, LNP, Trumpet, Family First, Greens, and One Nation.

I would also accept One Nation last, but that’s not what Mr Mutant put last.

I couldn’t put Pauline last as along with the trumpeteers, there were too many loony parties.

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Date: 2/05/2025 07:03:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2277820
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

That would entirely depend on what else was on offer. There are some really, really, really weird independents in some places.

Our candidates are Labor, LNP, Trumpet, Family First, Greens, and One Nation.

I would also accept One Nation last, but that’s not what Mr Mutant put last.

I couldn’t put Pauline last as along with the trumpeteers, there were too many loony parties.

this kind of feels

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Date: 2/05/2025 07:12:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2277822
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

drain the swamp

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-01/wingecarribee-swamp-rehabilitation-dendrobium-mine-payout/105237696

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Date: 2/05/2025 07:15:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277823
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Extreme – Shock – Horror!

One of the independents in Berowra has her posters screwed to trees!!

Sometimes on public land!!!

How can we accept such hypocrisy????

I don’t. I believe we should start a movement against harming trees for political gain.

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Date: 2/05/2025 08:26:11
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2277837
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Fucking shameless.

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Date: 2/05/2025 08:28:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277838
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


Fucking shameless.

They’ve been getting away with it for years.

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Date: 2/05/2025 08:30:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 2277840
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

In Bendigo.

Mr Lethlean is positioning himself as an affable businessman who will balance the books.

That pitch was damaged somewhat by revelations his pub operated without a liquor licence last month.

Ms Chesters has been pushing the party line of stability.

Link

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Date: 2/05/2025 08:54:00
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2277846
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


Fucking shameless.

good to see interaction with one of our biggest trading partners.

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Date: 2/05/2025 09:01:49
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277847
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Why are politicians turning to Grindr, OnlyFans, and Fortnite to reach voters?

28 minute podcast
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/downloadthisshow/desert-datacentres-politicians-election-grindr-marathon-robots/105142732

(For those who don’t know, Grindr is a dating app for men to find other men, OnlyFans is kind of like a pay-per-view for sex workers to strut their stuff for an audience, and Fortnite is a video game.)

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Date: 2/05/2025 09:48:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2277857
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

JudgeMental said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Fucking shameless.

good to see interaction with one of our biggest trading partners.

Well, it’s not like the other side isn’t at willing to rub elbows with Chinese business magnates, and ‘trade envoys’ and whatever, in the name of the Australian economy, even though a lot of those people are fully-paid-up CCP members.

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Date: 2/05/2025 11:12:40
From: fsm
ID: 2277903
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 2/05/2025 12:14:59
From: dv
ID: 2277938
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Certainly has been weird not having a Nationals leader who is a complete disgrace.

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Date: 2/05/2025 12:52:12
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277953
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

A serial pest in sperm donation groups has joined the cast of bankrupts, fraudsters and fantasists in Clive Palmer’s Trumpet of Patriots and is running in the hotly contested western Sydney seat of Lindsay.

Joseph O’Connor claims in the biography posted on the party’s website that he brings “a wealth of experience in mental health and counselling” to his candidacy. Trumpet of Patriots candidate Joseph O’Connor has been revealed as a serial pest in sperm donation groups.

But this masthead can reveal that he has also presented himself as Dane McDuff, Blake McBeth, Adam Nilsson and Jack DeBevay in Facebook groups for women and couples looking for sperm donations, among a stream of identities that mushroom each time he is banned from a group. Sperm donor groups generally do not allow members to use aliases.

Multiple women have complained to the group administrators that he has engaged in creepy behaviour, sent them unwanted imagery and is using the groups to find sexual partners. The unwanted material included videos of himself on a porn site called “Chaturbate” where he uses the moniker JackPhallus. In one of his early profiles, set up under the moniker Dane McDuff in 2019, he boasted of a “super high” sperm count.

“I kept knocking up all my previous girlfriends so figured I might as well come here and put it to good use,” he wrote. “Australia only pls unless you’re willing to travel, shipping sperm seems like it would reduce quality.”

He set up his own sperm donation group in 2022 under the alias Adam Nilsson, after administrators of other sperm donation groups collaborated to identify all his aliases and remove him from their groups. He posted his vital details, including a photograph, offering to donate sperm as recently as September last year.

One of the rules of his group is that if a man agrees to donate via artificial insemination, they cannot renege at the last moment and insist on natural insemination. “Grow some balls I know a lot of you have tiny dicks and this is the only way your micropenis having self can get laid but I don’t care, go to a brothel,” the rule states.

“Anyone who whines, whinges, complains etc about anybody will be BANNED … This isn’t your soap box for you to have a cry and get sympathy because boo hoo it’s too hard.”

It is not clear which of the three administrators of the group wrote the rules. But administrators of other groups have identified in O’Connor’s group numerous donors and recipients who have been banned from their groups, and claim he has rejected their offers to share evidence and collaborate to remove bad actors who put the community at risk.

O’Connor denied this allegation, saying he had banned numerous individuals from the group for catfishing, and denied that he had sent unsolicited videos of himself to women in other groups. He said he had been banned from the other groups for arguing and not any other reason.

“My intentions were genuine,” he said. “I was looking to help people because IVF is too expensive for many people. Majority of people, sex wasn’t involved at all.”

He also shared screenshots of women who said they had become pregnant with his sperm, but asked that they not be shared in the interests of the women’s privacy. One of them went through an IVF clinic, he said. But he said he had little interest in donating any more.

O’Connor’s Psychology Today profile says he has expertise in men’s issues, sex therapy and peer relationships. His candidate profile identifies housing affordability, homelessness and unemployment as the key issues in Lindsay, which encompasses the suburbs of Penrith, St Marys and Emu Plains in Sydney’s outer west. He is the latest in a colourful cast of Trumpet candidates to exhibit multiple identities.

David Sarikaya, who is running in Reid, calls himself “Professor” but is a fake psychologist who bought his PhD online for $250. He also has a fraud conviction and is a former bankrupt, a feature he shares with Deakin candidate Milton Wilde.

Todd Juchau, a security guard from Murrurrundi, claims to be a long-lost descendant of Charlemagne and tried to change his name by deed poll to “Prince”.

Gabrial Pennicott is a reinvented conman who moved to the Gold Coast after spending three years behind bars for fraud offences in Victoria.

Other interesting candidates include Michael Jessop, 70, who is facing weapons and stalking charges after police found camouflage clothing, an axe, a shovel, duct tape and a cadaver bag inside his vehicle outside Bli Bli on the Sunshine Coast. He is fighting the charges.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/serial-pest-in-sperm-donor-groups-joins-clive-palmer-s-colourful-cast-20250501-p5lvrl.html

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Date: 2/05/2025 12:57:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2277955
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

fsm said:



LOL

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Date: 2/05/2025 13:06:05
From: buffy
ID: 2277958
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Electoral advertising

I just read this and it reminded me to count up the letterbox drops we’ve had here in Wannon.

Hothouse Magazine: 2
Labor party candidate: 2
Advance Australia Ltd (a Liberal party group): 3
Liberal Party/Dan Tehan: 6
Alex Dyson (independent, Climate 200 financed in part): 5

I had been dropping the flyers on the kitchen table because I was curious to see how things panned out. I’m pretty sure the Libs are pretty worried about Dan Tehan’s prospects.

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Date: 2/05/2025 13:15:35
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2277963
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

On the eve of the election, Sportsbet odds stand thusly


and my electorate, which was paying 1.005 for LNP retain

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Date: 2/05/2025 13:18:25
From: Michael V
ID: 2277965
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


A serial pest in sperm donation groups has joined the cast of bankrupts, fraudsters and fantasists in Clive Palmer’s Trumpet of Patriots and is running in the hotly contested western Sydney seat of Lindsay.

Joseph O’Connor claims in the biography posted on the party’s website that he brings “a wealth of experience in mental health and counselling” to his candidacy. Trumpet of Patriots candidate Joseph O’Connor has been revealed as a serial pest in sperm donation groups.

But this masthead can reveal that he has also presented himself as Dane McDuff, Blake McBeth, Adam Nilsson and Jack DeBevay in Facebook groups for women and couples looking for sperm donations, among a stream of identities that mushroom each time he is banned from a group. Sperm donor groups generally do not allow members to use aliases.

Multiple women have complained to the group administrators that he has engaged in creepy behaviour, sent them unwanted imagery and is using the groups to find sexual partners. The unwanted material included videos of himself on a porn site called “Chaturbate” where he uses the moniker JackPhallus. In one of his early profiles, set up under the moniker Dane McDuff in 2019, he boasted of a “super high” sperm count.

“I kept knocking up all my previous girlfriends so figured I might as well come here and put it to good use,” he wrote. “Australia only pls unless you’re willing to travel, shipping sperm seems like it would reduce quality.”

He set up his own sperm donation group in 2022 under the alias Adam Nilsson, after administrators of other sperm donation groups collaborated to identify all his aliases and remove him from their groups. He posted his vital details, including a photograph, offering to donate sperm as recently as September last year.

One of the rules of his group is that if a man agrees to donate via artificial insemination, they cannot renege at the last moment and insist on natural insemination. “Grow some balls I know a lot of you have tiny dicks and this is the only way your micropenis having self can get laid but I don’t care, go to a brothel,” the rule states.

“Anyone who whines, whinges, complains etc about anybody will be BANNED … This isn’t your soap box for you to have a cry and get sympathy because boo hoo it’s too hard.”

It is not clear which of the three administrators of the group wrote the rules. But administrators of other groups have identified in O’Connor’s group numerous donors and recipients who have been banned from their groups, and claim he has rejected their offers to share evidence and collaborate to remove bad actors who put the community at risk.

O’Connor denied this allegation, saying he had banned numerous individuals from the group for catfishing, and denied that he had sent unsolicited videos of himself to women in other groups. He said he had been banned from the other groups for arguing and not any other reason.

“My intentions were genuine,” he said. “I was looking to help people because IVF is too expensive for many people. Majority of people, sex wasn’t involved at all.”

He also shared screenshots of women who said they had become pregnant with his sperm, but asked that they not be shared in the interests of the women’s privacy. One of them went through an IVF clinic, he said. But he said he had little interest in donating any more.

O’Connor’s Psychology Today profile says he has expertise in men’s issues, sex therapy and peer relationships. His candidate profile identifies housing affordability, homelessness and unemployment as the key issues in Lindsay, which encompasses the suburbs of Penrith, St Marys and Emu Plains in Sydney’s outer west. He is the latest in a colourful cast of Trumpet candidates to exhibit multiple identities.

David Sarikaya, who is running in Reid, calls himself “Professor” but is a fake psychologist who bought his PhD online for $250. He also has a fraud conviction and is a former bankrupt, a feature he shares with Deakin candidate Milton Wilde.

Todd Juchau, a security guard from Murrurrundi, claims to be a long-lost descendant of Charlemagne and tried to change his name by deed poll to “Prince”.

Gabrial Pennicott is a reinvented conman who moved to the Gold Coast after spending three years behind bars for fraud offences in Victoria.

Other interesting candidates include Michael Jessop, 70, who is facing weapons and stalking charges after police found camouflage clothing, an axe, a shovel, duct tape and a cadaver bag inside his vehicle outside Bli Bli on the Sunshine Coast. He is fighting the charges.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/serial-pest-in-sperm-donor-groups-joins-clive-palmer-s-colourful-cast-20250501-p5lvrl.html

Bruddy-Eck!

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Date: 2/05/2025 16:32:21
From: Ian
ID: 2278006
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Certainly has been weird not having a Nationals leader who is a complete disgrace.

I’ve been thinking “Where’s Barnaby?”

He’s usually popping up or falling down…

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Date: 2/05/2025 18:48:14
From: Ian
ID: 2278048
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Nearly there in what some are describing as the most boring election in living memory.

Tis a choice between the timid and the terrible.

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Date: 2/05/2025 19:12:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278054
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

anyway that solanoid seems to have had some decent voice coaching while the winking squinty fella grates a bit

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Date: 2/05/2025 19:21:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2278058
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I hope Albos concession speech is not as long Kevins.

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Date: 2/05/2025 19:45:19
From: Ian
ID: 2278072
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I hope spud’s concession speech is not as long Kevin’s victory speech.

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Date: 2/05/2025 19:46:09
From: dv
ID: 2278073
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


I hope Albos concession speech is not as long Kevins.

Your confidence is an inspiration to young people eveywhere

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Date: 2/05/2025 19:47:28
From: dv
ID: 2278074
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Either way I’m glad I live somewhere that losing leaders concede rather to pull a coup unlike some places I could mention

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Date: 2/05/2025 19:50:01
From: party_pants
ID: 2278075
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Either way I’m glad I live somewhere that losing leaders concede rather to pull a coup unlike some places I could mention

Well, so far…

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Date: 2/05/2025 19:50:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2278076
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I hope Albos concession speech is not as long Kevins.

Your confidence is an inspiration to young people eveywhere

The Young Ones was an inspiration to old people everywhere.

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Date: 2/05/2025 19:56:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278080
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Either way I’m glad I live somewhere that losing leaders concede rather to pull a coup unlike some places I could mention

Well, it’s unlikely that Butt Plug could find enough Nazi hordes to march on Canberra.

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Date: 2/05/2025 20:32:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278084
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Either way I’m glad I live somewhere that losing leaders concede rather to pull a coup unlike some places I could mention

Well, it’s unlikely that Butt Plug could find enough Nazi hordes to march on Canberra.

Fascism Can’t Possibly Happen Here We’re Too Good For That

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Date: 2/05/2025 21:02:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278088
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I hope Albos concession speech is not as long Kevins.

Your confidence is an inspiration to young people eveywhere

He’s a river to his people.

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Date: 2/05/2025 21:03:08
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278089
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Either way I’m glad I live somewhere that losing leaders concede rather to pull a coup unlike some places I could mention

Well, it’s unlikely that Butt Plug could find enough Nazi hordes to march on Canberra.

Imagine goose-stepping all that way!

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Date: 2/05/2025 21:03:31
From: party_pants
ID: 2278090
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I hope Albos concession speech is not as long Kevins.

Your confidence is an inspiration to young people eveywhere

He’s a river to his people.

A river in Africa, or a river in NSW?

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Date: 2/05/2025 21:06:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278091
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Your confidence is an inspiration to young people eveywhere

He’s a river to his people.

A river in Africa, or a river in NSW?

from the river to the sea

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Date: 2/05/2025 21:09:42
From: party_pants
ID: 2278092
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

He’s a river to his people.

A river in Africa, or a river in NSW?

from the river to the sea

or a playa if you’re part of one of Australia’s many endorheic systems.

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Date: 2/05/2025 21:46:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278098
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Doing my research for voting tomorrow.

A reminder of:

https://www.somethingforcate.net/category/nsw

Just change the last three letters for your state.

Excellent listing of all the Upper house groups with a summary of their background then a more detailed review if you want it.

Thanks for the link buffy.

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Date: 2/05/2025 21:50:54
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278100
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

There’s also build a ballot. Choose some statements you agree with, and it will spit out a numbered ballot according to your values. It’s like printing your own How To Vote card.

https://www.buildaballot.org.au/

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Date: 2/05/2025 21:54:59
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278101
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Doing my research for voting tomorrow.

A reminder of:

https://www.somethingforcate.net/category/nsw

Just change the last three letters for your state.

Excellent listing of all the Upper house groups with a summary of their background then a more detailed review if you want it.

Thanks for the link buffy.

For instance, intro on the Libertarians:

“Okay, before we go any further: did you notice how lame and unoriginal their slogans were? Well, that’s just a taster for how lame and unoriginal their policies are – at a first glance these are all Trump-inspired. (It’s honestly something of a shock that they’re not calling for more tariffs.) But in fact, their policy position has barely changed over the years – Trump has moved further right to meet them. Still, the similarities are telling. I’m explaining all this up front so you can save time: if you already know how you feel about Trump’s policies, you can safely skip the rest of this article unless you’re really interested in the details.”

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Date: 2/05/2025 21:59:20
From: buffy
ID: 2278102
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Doing my research for voting tomorrow.

A reminder of:

https://www.somethingforcate.net/category/nsw

Just change the last three letters for your state.

Excellent listing of all the Upper house groups with a summary of their background then a more detailed review if you want it.

Thanks for the link buffy.

Let’s say I wished I’d found it before I’d spent an hour Googling around trying to find information on people.

:)

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Date: 2/05/2025 22:10:44
From: tauto
ID: 2278104
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Doing my research for voting tomorrow.

A reminder of:

https://www.somethingforcate.net/category/nsw

Just change the last three letters for your state.

Excellent listing of all the Upper house groups with a summary of their background then a more detailed review if you want it.

Thanks for the link buffy.

Let’s say I wished I’d found it before I’d spent an hour Googling around trying to find information on people.

:)

—-

If educated boomers have trouble understanding the system then what chance is there for the youngsters.

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Date: 2/05/2025 22:24:48
From: Ian
ID: 2278106
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

What about Roger Woodward?

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Date: 2/05/2025 22:26:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278107
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Ian said:

What about Roger Woodward?

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Date: 2/05/2025 22:27:13
From: Ian
ID: 2278108
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

Ian said:

What about Roger Woodward?


Non

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Date: 2/05/2025 22:37:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278111
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Now finished my how to vote lists, so I’m going to bed.

In the lower house, I’m voting Brown, not Green:

https://www.tinabrownforberowra.com.au

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Date: 2/05/2025 22:39:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278112
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

question if say it takes us 30 minutes to get to a popularity contest and do our thing and get back to where we should be, and our time is worth at least $40 an hour, we should just pay an administrative penalty right

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-02/is-voting-compulsory-fines-penalties/105173996

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Date: 2/05/2025 22:44:47
From: party_pants
ID: 2278113
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Interesting video from Anne Twomey about election funding based on first preference votes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632FpnM2iJc
link

Parties and candidates get federal funding based on how many first preference votes they get, as long as they get a minimum 4%.

So if you don’t want a major party cashing in on your vote, consider putting a minor party first and the major party second. That way they still get your vote (on preferences) but not your money.

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Date: 2/05/2025 22:45:20
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278114
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Ian said:


What about Roger Woodward?

Have to admit I didn’t really look at any information about him.

Now had a look at his web site and not impressed.

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Date: 2/05/2025 22:46:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278115
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-02/nsw-riot-squad-called-control-chaos-selective-school-exam-sites/105245958

also

Thousands of students had been planned to sit exams for selective schools and opportunity classes (OC) at Canterbury Park Racecourse and Randwick Racecourse on Friday, to gain entry into accelerated learning streams in public primary and secondary schools.

what the fuck is this “accelerated learning streams” shit, the teachers we know at public primary and secondary schools with relevance to selective schools and opportunity classes can tell you now there is precious little “accelerated learning” going on and even if there were it would merely be “less late in catching up to dirty ASIA learning streams” so they can dream on

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Date: 2/05/2025 22:48:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278116
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:

Interesting video from Anne Twomey about election funding based on first preference votes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632FpnM2iJc
link

Parties and candidates get federal funding based on how many first preference votes they get, as long as they get a minimum 4%.

So if you don’t want a major party cashing in on your vote, consider putting a minor party first and the major party second. That way they still get your vote (on preferences) but not your money.

it’s only our money if we paid taxes right

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Date: 2/05/2025 23:51:59
From: Ian
ID: 2278121
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Ian said:

What about Roger Woodward?

Have to admit I didn’t really look at any information about him.

Now had a look at his web site and not impressed.

No, not a lot of detail.

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Date: 2/05/2025 23:52:18
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2278122
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Now finished my how to vote lists, so I’m going to bed.

In the lower house, I’m voting Brown, not Green:

https://www.tinabrownforberowra.com.au

Is brown the color of the mud caked blood of those damned Liberals slayed in the field?

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Date: 3/05/2025 07:27:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278135
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Now finished my how to vote lists, so I’m going to bed.

In the lower house, I’m voting Brown, not Green:

https://www.tinabrownforberowra.com.au

Is brown the color of the mud caked blood of those damned Liberals slayed in the field?

Green environmentalists + red communists = dirty brown areweright¿¡

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Date: 3/05/2025 07:34:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278140
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Why are politicians turning to Grindr, OnlyFans, and Fortnite to reach voters?

28 minute podcast
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/downloadthisshow/desert-datacentres-politicians-election-grindr-marathon-robots/105142732

(For those who don’t know, Grindr is a dating app for men to find other men, OnlyFans is kind of like a pay-per-view for sex workers to strut their stuff for an audience, and Fortnite is a video game.)

Our politicians?

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Date: 3/05/2025 07:42:49
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278144
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Today’s the day! Stock up on snacks for tonight’s counting. I recommend popcorn.

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Date: 3/05/2025 07:49:56
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2278146
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Morning Pilgrims.
Corker of a day in the Pearl, a zephyr of a breeze from the SW, cool but sunny.
Over.

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:15:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278150
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I took my friend with advanced Parkinsons to the voting booth. Afterwards he told me he thinks he fucked up. I say no worries mate. You can still draw a dick and balls approximately.

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:39:08
From: kii
ID: 2278153
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


I took my friend with advanced Parkinsons to the voting booth. Afterwards he told me he thinks he fucked up. I say no worries mate. You can still draw a dick and balls approximately.

Great, very helpful.

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:44:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278155
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


roughbarked said:

I took my friend with advanced Parkinsons to the voting booth. Afterwards he told me he thinks he fucked up. I say no worries mate. You can still draw a dick and balls approximately.

Great, very helpful.

It wouldn’t make any difference. He can’t get through a sentence without losing it. The other option is to get him removed from the register but that’s up to his sister.
He was simply pleased to be able to have a go and to get out of the house he lives in alone.

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:44:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278156
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


roughbarked said:

I took my friend with advanced Parkinsons to the voting booth. Afterwards he told me he thinks he fucked up. I say no worries mate. You can still draw a dick and balls approximately.

Great, very helpful.

I’m not allowed to help him vote.

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:47:22
From: kii
ID: 2278157
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


kii said:

roughbarked said:

I took my friend with advanced Parkinsons to the voting booth. Afterwards he told me he thinks he fucked up. I say no worries mate. You can still draw a dick and balls approximately.

Great, very helpful.

I’m not allowed to help him vote.

You think I’m that dumb?

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:50:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278158
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

There was a story yesterday on the ABC about accessible voting for people with visible and invisible disabilities.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-02/federal-election-voting-with-a-disability-challenges/105235532

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:54:10
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278159
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


There was a story yesterday on the ABC about accessible voting for people with visible and invisible disabilities.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-02/federal-election-voting-with-a-disability-challenges/105235532

I’d love the invisible disability. I would wreak mayhem.

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:54:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278160
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


roughbarked said:

kii said:

Great, very helpful.

I’m not allowed to help him vote.

You think I’m that dumb?

Not at all. I’m simply trying to get you to see what I am saying rather than what you think I am saying.

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:54:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278161
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


There was a story yesterday on the ABC about accessible voting for people with visible and invisible disabilities.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-02/federal-election-voting-with-a-disability-challenges/105235532

Yeah. I read that. I’m in the invisible category.

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:54:52
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278162
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


I took my friend with advanced Parkinsons to the voting booth. Afterwards he told me he thinks he fucked up. I say no worries mate. You can still draw a dick and balls approximately.

good.

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:55:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278163
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:


Divine Angel said:

There was a story yesterday on the ABC about accessible voting for people with visible and invisible disabilities.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-02/federal-election-voting-with-a-disability-challenges/105235532

I’d love the invisible disability. I would wreak mayhem.

It is usually the reverse.

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:56:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278164
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

I took my friend with advanced Parkinsons to the voting booth. Afterwards he told me he thinks he fucked up. I say no worries mate. You can still draw a dick and balls approximately.

good.

He was happy. I couldn’t have forced him to go through waiting in line again to get new papers. Truth is, he probably only thought he fucked up.

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Date: 3/05/2025 08:59:35
From: kii
ID: 2278166
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


kii said:

roughbarked said:

I’m not allowed to help him vote.

You think I’m that dumb?

Not at all. I’m simply trying to get you to see what I am saying rather than what you think I am saying.

Have you tried to advocate to his sister about his situation?
Or you could just continue to say stupid crap and possibly make him feel even more useless.

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Date: 3/05/2025 09:01:31
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2278167
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:


Divine Angel said:

There was a story yesterday on the ABC about accessible voting for people with visible and invisible disabilities.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-02/federal-election-voting-with-a-disability-challenges/105235532

I’d love the invisible disability. I would wreak mayhem.

You’ll just have to settle for being fingerless.

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Date: 3/05/2025 09:25:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278174
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


roughbarked said:

kii said:

You think I’m that dumb?

Not at all. I’m simply trying to get you to see what I am saying rather than what you think I am saying.

Have you tried to advocate to his sister about his situation?
Or you could just continue to say stupid crap and possibly make him feel even more useless.

I have but he tells me that his sister isn’t doiinng her job quickly enough.
I’ll have annother chat to her.
I’m careful to not do anything to make him feel useless. He does a lot of that to himself.

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Date: 3/05/2025 09:34:10
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278176
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


kii said:

roughbarked said:

Not at all. I’m simply trying to get you to see what I am saying rather than what you think I am saying.

Have you tried to advocate to his sister about his situation?
Or you could just continue to say stupid crap and possibly make him feel even more useless.

I have but he tells me that his sister isn’t doiinng her job quickly enough.
I’ll have annother chat to her.
I’m careful to not do anything to make him feel useless. He does a lot of that to himself.

that is all you can do. when I worked with elderly clients any concern i had about their wellbeing i brought up with my supervisor. they had better recourse to the right people. I would also have a chat with relatives if I knew them well enough.

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Date: 3/05/2025 09:44:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278177
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

kii said:

Have you tried to advocate to his sister about his situation?
Or you could just continue to say stupid crap and possibly make him feel even more useless.

I have but he tells me that his sister isn’t doiinng her job quickly enough.
I’ll have annother chat to her.
I’m careful to not do anything to make him feel useless. He does a lot of that to himself.

that is all you can do. when I worked with elderly clients any concern i had about their wellbeing i brought up with my supervisor. they had better recourse to the right people. I would also have a chat with relatives if I knew them well enough.

There is only his younger sister left. He lost both his brothers close together recently. She was four when they moved in next door. She is very self opinionated, though she will listen and take on board everything. She is quite capable of doing everything he needs to get the help he needs but according to him, the paperwork is all still sitting there, inside the house somewhere. I don’t want to antagonize her in any way. She is capable of firing up. The only photo I have of her shows defiance at it’s best.

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Date: 3/05/2025 09:49:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278179
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

I have but he tells me that his sister isn’t doiinng her job quickly enough.
I’ll have annother chat to her.
I’m careful to not do anything to make him feel useless. He does a lot of that to himself.

that is all you can do. when I worked with elderly clients any concern i had about their wellbeing i brought up with my supervisor. they had better recourse to the right people. I would also have a chat with relatives if I knew them well enough.

There is only his younger sister left. He lost both his brothers close together recently. She was four when they moved in next door. She is very self opinionated, though she will listen and take on board everything. She is quite capable of doing everything he needs to get the help he needs but according to him, the paperwork is all still sitting there, inside the house somewhere. I don’t want to antagonize her in any way. She is capable of firing up. The only photo I have of her shows defiance at it’s best.

After voting I took him for a drive out of town. He told me that neither his sister or a friend have taken him out of town for a drive. He really wants to be out in the bush. He was born on a farm near Binya. I plan to take him there for a drive but I really do need to talk to his sister about all that responsibility.

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Date: 3/05/2025 09:59:32
From: dv
ID: 2278183
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

It’s 8 o’clock on a Saturday. The regular crowd stumbles in but the queue is not unreasonable.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:03:55
From: Michael V
ID: 2278185
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


It’s 8 o’clock on a Saturday. The regular crowd stumbles in but the queue is not unreasonable.

Bit early for the Tonic and Gin though.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:14:44
From: party_pants
ID: 2278187
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

… and it’s raining. Voting might have to wait till later.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:16:06
From: Neophyte
ID: 2278188
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


dv said:

It’s 8 o’clock on a Saturday. The regular crowd stumbles in but the queue is not unreasonable.

Bit early for the Tonic and Gin though.

The fellow behind me at he voting place said all the parties are useless and corrupt, and wished there was a Military Party who’d clean the country up – them he’d vote for in an instant.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:17:47
From: kii
ID: 2278189
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Neophyte said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

It’s 8 o’clock on a Saturday. The regular crowd stumbles in but the queue is not unreasonable.

Bit early for the Tonic and Gin though.

The fellow behind me at he voting place said all the parties are useless and corrupt, and wished there was a Military Party who’d clean the country up – them he’d vote for in an instant.


Faaark.
Old and white?

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:20:40
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278191
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Neophyte said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

It’s 8 o’clock on a Saturday. The regular crowd stumbles in but the queue is not unreasonable.

Bit early for the Tonic and Gin though.

The fellow behind me at he voting place said all the parties are useless and corrupt, and wished there was a Military Party who’d clean the country up – them he’d vote for in an instant.

I would have asked him which branch of the military he’d been in.

Almost certainly, the answer would have been ‘umm…none’.

Even if he identified army, navy, or air force, there would have been fertile ground for discussion afterwards.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:21:18
From: buffy
ID: 2278192
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I’ve been and voted. Had a mini quiche for breakfast with my bushwandering friend. Then went back to the polling booth for a chat with my Fungimap mentor, who is handing out how to vote cards for Alex Dyson. One of my old patients is also on handing out duty. Found out about a few more of the people supporting Alex Dyson. He’s really collected a lot of the Old Western District Liberals. They are quietly confident. I learnt that the Alex Dyson people have a Code of Practice, which strictly forbids the sort of attack stuff the Libs have been doing. They subscribe to the “We are better than that” school of thought.

The flow of voters was nice and steady, usually only three to five people queuing. About half a dozen cardboard booths set up. Everyone was being very polite. Most people who took a “how to vote” took both the Lib and the Dyson one (nobody else had people handing out at our booth) and then returned them on the way back out. Every now and then the two groups exchanged the returned ones that had been handed back to the wrong group.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:24:38
From: Neophyte
ID: 2278193
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Neophyte said:

Michael V said:

Bit early for the Tonic and Gin though.

The fellow behind me at he voting place said all the parties are useless and corrupt, and wished there was a Military Party who’d clean the country up – them he’d vote for in an instant.


Faaark.
Old and white?

Pretty much – spoke admiringly of Trump, said Australia needed a DOGE of its own. Just as we were right at the door to go in, I looked up and saw a contrail crossing the sky. “Please. please don’t let him look up before we’re in” – but too late, and away he went.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:25:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2278194
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Neophyte said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

It’s 8 o’clock on a Saturday. The regular crowd stumbles in but the queue is not unreasonable.

Bit early for the Tonic and Gin though.

The fellow behind me at he voting place said all the parties are useless and corrupt, and wished there was a Military Party who’d clean the country up – them he’d vote for in an instant.

A bit of workshopping and that’s fit to the tune as well, no problems.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:26:06
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278195
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Neophyte said:


kii said:

Neophyte said:

The fellow behind me at he voting place said all the parties are useless and corrupt, and wished there was a Military Party who’d clean the country up – them he’d vote for in an instant.


Faaark.
Old and white?

Pretty much – spoke admiringly of Trump, said Australia needed a DOGE of its own. Just as we were right at the door to go in, I looked up and saw a contrail crossing the sky. “Please. please don’t let him look up before we’re in” – but too late, and away he went.

Bloody LNP spraying brainwashing chemicals to get people to vote for them!

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:27:10
From: kii
ID: 2278196
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Neophyte said:


kii said:

Neophyte said:

The fellow behind me at he voting place said all the parties are useless and corrupt, and wished there was a Military Party who’d clean the country up – them he’d vote for in an instant.


Faaark.
Old and white?

Pretty much – spoke admiringly of Trump, said Australia needed a DOGE of its own. Just as we were right at the door to go in, I looked up and saw a contrail crossing the sky. “Please. please don’t let him look up before we’re in” – but too late, and away he went.

They’re so fucking predictable.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:27:38
From: Michael V
ID: 2278197
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Neophyte said:


kii said:

Neophyte said:

The fellow behind me at he voting place said all the parties are useless and corrupt, and wished there was a Military Party who’d clean the country up – them he’d vote for in an instant.


Faaark.
Old and white?

Pretty much – spoke admiringly of Trump, said Australia needed a DOGE of its own. Just as we were right at the door to go in, I looked up and saw a contrail crossing the sky. “Please. please don’t let him look up before we’re in” – but too late, and away he went.

Uh-oh.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:28:40
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278198
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

CNN video shows decision to sack Mike Waltz may have been taken on Tuesday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1YuMhTvFE0

National Security Advisor Mike Waltz finds out, at the foot of the stairs to Air Force One, that he’s not allowed to board i.e. he’s out of a job, taking the fall for the ‘Signalgate’ blunder.

“Let me see, Waltz, Waltz…no, sorry, no ‘Waltz’ on the list, i’m afraid, can’t let you board, sir, would you just step this way, so as to not block the access.”

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:28:49
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2278199
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Neophyte said:


kii said:

Neophyte said:

The fellow behind me at he voting place said all the parties are useless and corrupt, and wished there was a Military Party who’d clean the country up – them he’d vote for in an instant.


Faaark.
Old and white?

Pretty much – spoke admiringly of Trump, said Australia needed a DOGE of its own. Just as we were right at the door to go in, I looked up and saw a contrail crossing the sky. “Please. please don’t let him look up before we’re in” – but too late, and away he went.

I’VE NOTICED MORE CONTRAILS SINCE THE ELECTION BEEN CALLED.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:29:11
From: Michael V
ID: 2278200
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Neophyte said:

kii said:

Faaark.
Old and white?

Pretty much – spoke admiringly of Trump, said Australia needed a DOGE of its own. Just as we were right at the door to go in, I looked up and saw a contrail crossing the sky. “Please. please don’t let him look up before we’re in” – but too late, and away he went.

Bloody LNP spraying brainwashing chemicals to get people to vote for them!

:)

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:30:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278202
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Wrong thread, apologies.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:33:03
From: kii
ID: 2278205
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Neophyte said:

kii said:

Faaark.
Old and white?

Pretty much – spoke admiringly of Trump, said Australia needed a DOGE of its own. Just as we were right at the door to go in, I looked up and saw a contrail crossing the sky. “Please. please don’t let him look up before we’re in” – but too late, and away he went.

They’re so fucking predictable.

I hope he gets to experience the Leopards if the LNP win.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:34:02
From: party_pants
ID: 2278206
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


CNN video shows decision to sack Mike Waltz may have been taken on Tuesday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1YuMhTvFE0

National Security Advisor Mike Waltz finds out, at the foot of the stairs to Air Force One, that he’s not allowed to board i.e. he’s out of a job, taking the fall for the ‘Signalgate’ blunder.

“Let me see, Waltz, Waltz…no, sorry, no ‘Waltz’ on the list, i’m afraid, can’t let you board, sir, would you just step this way, so as to not block the access.”

Just step this way sir: one, two, three, one two, three …

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:34:57
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278208
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


Neophyte said:

kii said:

Faaark.
Old and white?

Pretty much – spoke admiringly of Trump, said Australia needed a DOGE of its own. Just as we were right at the door to go in, I looked up and saw a contrail crossing the sky. “Please. please don’t let him look up before we’re in” – but too late, and away he went.

I’VE NOTICED MORE CONTRAILS SINCE THE ELECTION BEEN CALLED.

IT’S ALL THOSE POLLIES FLYING ABOUT TRYING TO DRUM UP VOTES AND SPENDING OUT TAXES.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:42:12
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278213
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:44:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2278215
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:



Fail.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:47:48
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278216
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I get schools’ need for fundraising, but you’re not gonna get randos donating Willy-nilly.

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Date: 3/05/2025 10:47:59
From: Kingy
ID: 2278217
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


kii said:

Neophyte said:

Pretty much – spoke admiringly of Trump, said Australia needed a DOGE of its own. Just as we were right at the door to go in, I looked up and saw a contrail crossing the sky. “Please. please don’t let him look up before we’re in” – but too late, and away he went.

They’re so fucking predictable.

I hope he gets to experience the Leopards if the LNP win.

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Date: 3/05/2025 11:07:53
From: Michael V
ID: 2278220
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


I get schools’ need for fundraising, but you’re not gonna get randos donating Willy-nilly.

I’m a random, but not random enough for that.

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Date: 3/05/2025 11:11:52
From: Tamb
ID: 2278223
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:


Fail.


I had a genuine democracy sausage today at the polling place. Yum!

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Date: 3/05/2025 11:14:29
From: party_pants
ID: 2278226
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Polling centre at Bondi beach.

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Date: 3/05/2025 11:15:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278227
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


Neophyte said:

kii said:

Faaark.
Old and white?

Pretty much – spoke admiringly of Trump, said Australia needed a DOGE of its own. Just as we were right at the door to go in, I looked up and saw a contrail crossing the sky. “Please. please don’t let him look up before we’re in” – but too late, and away he went.

I’VE NOTICED MORE CONTRAILS SINCE THE ELECTION BEEN CALLED.

ONLY BECAUSE YOU LOOKED UP.

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Date: 3/05/2025 11:48:57
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278234
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Question about vote counting:

At individual polling places, how are the voting results delivered? Does someone call the AEC? Is there a computer?

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Date: 3/05/2025 11:49:27
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278235
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:



I’d be happy to hand over, to the ‘virtual’ P&C staffer, on the ‘virtual’ stall, a ‘virtual’ $5 in return for my ‘virtual’ democracy sausage.

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Date: 3/05/2025 11:55:06
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278237
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

In Mini Me’s school, there’s a kitchen attached to the hall. When there’s an election, the AEC hires both the hall and the kitchen, so the P&C need to ask permission from the AEC to run the food stall inside the kitchen. The election volunteers don’t mind sharing, and they get a free snag and drink.

All this red tape no one thinks about.

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Date: 3/05/2025 11:56:17
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278238
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


In Mini Me’s school, there’s a kitchen attached to the hall. When there’s an election, the AEC hires both the hall and the kitchen, so the P&C need to ask permission from the AEC to run the food stall inside the kitchen. The election volunteers don’t mind sharing, and they get a free snag and drink.

All this red tape no one thinks about.

A bureaucratic minefield.

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Date: 3/05/2025 12:06:51
From: party_pants
ID: 2278242
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

right then, better not forget my glasses.

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Date: 3/05/2025 12:15:44
From: kii
ID: 2278247
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


In Mini Me’s school, there’s a kitchen attached to the hall. When there’s an election, the AEC hires both the hall and the kitchen, so the P&C need to ask permission from the AEC to run the food stall inside the kitchen. The election volunteers don’t mind sharing, and they get a free snag and drink.

All this red tape no one thinks about.

No one? I worked for local government as the coordinator running children’s services events from community halls with various other community groups. I think I know a thing or 2, and definitely thought about it.

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Date: 3/05/2025 12:16:32
From: buffy
ID: 2278248
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:



Oh, and the local Lions club had a sausage sizzle outside the polling booth this morning. After me proclaiming that I’d never seen one. I didn’t partake…I was on my way to the bakery for breakfast.

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Date: 3/05/2025 12:38:01
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278254
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


In Mini Me’s school, there’s a kitchen attached to the hall. When there’s an election, the AEC hires both the hall and the kitchen, so the P&C need to ask permission from the AEC to run the food stall inside the kitchen. The election volunteers don’t mind sharing, and they get a free snag and drink.

All this red tape no one thinks about.

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Date: 3/05/2025 12:43:03
From: Michael V
ID: 2278255
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Radar showed it was likely for us to get no rain for an hour. So, we’ve been and voted, and gone to the IGA for some groceries. And talked to various people. Democracy obligation-duty done.

:)

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Date: 3/05/2025 12:54:38
From: kii
ID: 2278258
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

LOLOLOLOL 😆
Idiot.

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Date: 3/05/2025 12:57:34
From: dv
ID: 2278261
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Patrick Gorman was there to hand out fliers and such. I gave him a polite nod but the boss lady has personal disagreement with him.

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:01:12
From: Michael V
ID: 2278262
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


LOLOLOLOL 😆
Idiot.

Hang about for a mo. I didn’t for for anybody in Dutton’s mob, nor for any Trump-lovers (eg: PHON, ToP).

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:04:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2278264
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


kii said:

LOLOLOLOL 😆
Idiot.

Hang about for a mo. I didn’t for vote for anybody in Dutton’s mob, nor for any Trump-lovers (eg: PHON, ToP).

“for for” should be “vote for”.

Typo, sorry. Fixed.

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:05:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2278265
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Patrick Gorman was there to hand out fliers and such. I gave him a polite nod but the boss lady has personal disagreement with him.

What’s the beef?

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:06:08
From: buffy
ID: 2278266
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


kii said:

LOLOLOLOL 😆
Idiot.

Hang about for a mo. I didn’t for for anybody in Dutton’s mob, nor for any Trump-lovers (eg: PHON, ToP).

I doubt that was meant to be a reply to your post.

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:06:25
From: kii
ID: 2278267
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

kii said:

LOLOLOLOL 😆
Idiot.

Hang about for a mo. I didn’t for vote for anybody in Dutton’s mob, nor for any Trump-lovers (eg: PHON, ToP).

“for for” should be “vote for”.

Typo, sorry. Fixed.

Not aimed at you.

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:09:06
From: Michael V
ID: 2278269
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

OK.

And: no Democracy Sausage here, as usual.

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:15:52
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2278270
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Heh, well played Albo.

https://x.com/i/status/1918390581883224249

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:18:53
From: Michael V
ID: 2278272
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


Heh, well played Albo.

https://x.com/i/status/1918390581883224249

:)

Well done!

:)

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:30:27
From: party_pants
ID: 2278274
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Radar showed it was likely for us to get no rain for an hour. So, we’ve been and voted, and gone to the IGA for some groceries. And talked to various people. Democracy obligation-duty done.

:)

Same. But I went to 7Eleven rather than IGA. Got a few spots, but nothing you’d call rain.

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:43:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2278277
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I didn’t know who to vote for but I settled on Trumpet of Patriots because it speaks to King and Country, it speaks to certainty and security.
And the bloke handing out their pamphlets must have been ex army because he was bald and dressed in army fatigues.
Thats my civic duty done.
Over.

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:50:53
From: party_pants
ID: 2278279
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

There was one guy in a full blown red MAGA hat at my polling booth. he was ahead of me in the queue so I couldn’t see at first if it was MAGA or just some other red hat. I saw him on the way out and it was the proper hat. I feel sorry for the bloke.

There was also an African looking lady with her husband. She stood about 2-3m back from him and would close the gap. I found this annoying behaviour when everyone else is in a queue.

Also, I have voted at the same place in the same school room for the last 4 or 5 elections, both state and federal. Each time the room is arranged differently. This time we queued up at what was the exit door just a few weeks ago at the state election.

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:52:00
From: dv
ID: 2278280
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


dv said:

Patrick Gorman was there to hand out fliers and such. I gave him a polite nod but the boss lady has personal disagreement with him.

What’s the beef?

Well I suppose I can’t be too specific but he disparaged something she was working hard to promote.

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:52:43
From: party_pants
ID: 2278281
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


There was one guy in a full blown red MAGA hat at my polling booth. he was ahead of me in the queue so I couldn’t see at first if it was MAGA or just some other red hat. I saw him on the way out and it was the proper hat. I feel sorry for the bloke.

There was also an African looking lady with her husband. She stood about 2-3m back from him and would close the gap. I found this annoying behaviour when everyone else is in a queue.

Also, I have voted at the same place in the same school room for the last 4 or 5 elections, both state and federal. Each time the room is arranged differently. This time we queued up at what was the exit door just a few weeks ago at the state election.

wouldn’t

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Date: 3/05/2025 13:57:13
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278282
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Done me duty, including sausage purchase and consumption.

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:02:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278283
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

so who won

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:04:14
From: dv
ID: 2278284
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:


so who won

Maybe the real winner was the friends we made along the way

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:34:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278299
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Done me duty, including sausage purchase and consumption.

Good lad.

I’ll be watching it on telly tonight. I suppose I’d better purchase some alcoholic beverages.

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:46:45
From: Kingy
ID: 2278301
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

No democracy sausage at the hall we went to, luckily I had one of last night’s leftovers for brekky this morning.

I’ve yet to personally see a democracy sausage station at any election ever. It’s anarchy anorexia here.

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:51:10
From: party_pants
ID: 2278302
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Kingy said:


No democracy sausage at the hall we went to, luckily I had one of last night’s leftovers for brekky this morning.

I’ve yet to personally see a democracy sausage station at any election ever. It’s anarchy anorexia here.

We have not had one since Covid. Prior to Covid there was one.

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:51:26
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2278303
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Kingy said:


No democracy sausage at the hall we went to, luckily I had one of last night’s leftovers for brekky this morning.

I’ve yet to personally see a democracy sausage station at any election ever. It’s anarchy anorexia here.

From now on all voting places will have mandatory barbecues.

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:52:33
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2278304
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tau.Neutrino said:


Kingy said:

No democracy sausage at the hall we went to, luckily I had one of last night’s leftovers for brekky this morning.

I’ve yet to personally see a democracy sausage station at any election ever. It’s anarchy anorexia here.

From now on all voting places will have mandatory barbecues.

And beer.

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:55:57
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2278306
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Mr Potato head used to be a police officer and all those years later he still has the personality of one.

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:56:20
From: Michael V
ID: 2278307
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

Patrick Gorman was there to hand out fliers and such. I gave him a polite nod but the boss lady has personal disagreement with him.

What’s the beef?

Well I suppose I can’t be too specific but he disparaged something she was working hard to promote.

OK.

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:56:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2278308
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

They up and left before I got there, the bastards.

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:57:19
From: party_pants
ID: 2278310
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Kingy said:

No democracy sausage at the hall we went to, luckily I had one of last night’s leftovers for brekky this morning.

I’ve yet to personally see a democracy sausage station at any election ever. It’s anarchy anorexia here.

From now on all voting places will have mandatory barbecues.

And beer.

That’s been tried before, with very poor outcomes.

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:58:03
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278311
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tau.Neutrino said:


Mr Potato head used to be a police officer and all those years later he still has the personality of one.

The bloke who runs the earthmoving business where i take the Wolf for walks was a Qld copper for over 40 years.

I should ask him if he ever encountered Dutton.

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:58:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2278312
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

From now on all voting places will have mandatory barbecues.

And beer.

That’s been tried before, with very poor outcomes.

People should wash their hands.

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Date: 3/05/2025 14:58:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278313
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

From now on all voting places will have mandatory barbecues.

And beer.

That’s been tried before, with very poor outcomes.

Could have been lack of rigour in their scientific method.

Let’s run the experiment again.

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Date: 3/05/2025 15:04:36
From: Michael V
ID: 2278316
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

And beer.

That’s been tried before, with very poor outcomes.

Could have been lack of rigour in their scientific method.

Let’s run the experiment again.

And again, and again, and again.

Until we get it right.

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Date: 3/05/2025 15:05:46
From: party_pants
ID: 2278317
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

And beer.

That’s been tried before, with very poor outcomes.

People should wash their hands.

Well, it wasn’t beer, it was rum. But the story goes that in colonial times before the secret ballot, candidates and their supporters outside would hand out tots of rum as an inducement to vote. Ended up with the supporters getting drunk and rowdy and intimidating voters. or fist fights broke out between different groups of drunken supporters.

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Date: 3/05/2025 15:08:08
From: Michael V
ID: 2278318
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

That’s been tried before, with very poor outcomes.

People should wash their hands.

Well, it wasn’t beer, it was rum. But the story goes that in colonial times before the secret ballot, candidates and their supporters outside would hand out tots of rum as an inducement to vote. Ended up with the supporters getting drunk and rowdy and intimidating voters. or fist fights broke out between different groups of drunken supporters.

Plenty of scope for re-run, but scientific tests.

;)

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Date: 3/05/2025 15:09:46
From: party_pants
ID: 2278319
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

People should wash their hands.

Well, it wasn’t beer, it was rum. But the story goes that in colonial times before the secret ballot, candidates and their supporters outside would hand out tots of rum as an inducement to vote. Ended up with the supporters getting drunk and rowdy and intimidating voters. or fist fights broke out between different groups of drunken supporters.

Plenty of scope for re-run, but scientific tests.

;)

There’s a danger you might induce people to vote thrice or more, just for the free beer.

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Date: 3/05/2025 15:12:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278320
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

party_pants said:

Well, it wasn’t beer, it was rum. But the story goes that in colonial times before the secret ballot, candidates and their supporters outside would hand out tots of rum as an inducement to vote. Ended up with the supporters getting drunk and rowdy and intimidating voters. or fist fights broke out between different groups of drunken supporters.

Plenty of scope for re-run, but scientific tests.

;)

There’s a danger you might induce people to vote thrice or more, just for the free beer.

and them getting run over in the carpark.

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Date: 3/05/2025 15:18:14
From: Michael V
ID: 2278321
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

party_pants said:

Well, it wasn’t beer, it was rum. But the story goes that in colonial times before the secret ballot, candidates and their supporters outside would hand out tots of rum as an inducement to vote. Ended up with the supporters getting drunk and rowdy and intimidating voters. or fist fights broke out between different groups of drunken supporters.

Plenty of scope for re-run, but scientific tests.

;)

There’s a danger you might induce people to vote thrice or more, just for the free beer.

We can test for that.

:)

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Date: 3/05/2025 15:19:41
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278322
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

party_pants said:

Well, it wasn’t beer, it was rum. But the story goes that in colonial times before the secret ballot, candidates and their supporters outside would hand out tots of rum as an inducement to vote. Ended up with the supporters getting drunk and rowdy and intimidating voters. or fist fights broke out between different groups of drunken supporters.

Plenty of scope for re-run, but scientific tests.

;)

There’s a danger you might induce people to vote thrice or more, just for the free beer.

So twice is OK then?

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Date: 3/05/2025 15:19:46
From: Michael V
ID: 2278323
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


There’s also build a ballot. Choose some statements you agree with, and it will spit out a numbered ballot according to your values. It’s like printing your own How To Vote card.

https://www.buildaballot.org.au/

Thanks. That was both interesting and instructive. 94% Greens. 56% ALP etc…

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Date: 3/05/2025 15:21:29
From: Kingy
ID: 2278324
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Kingy said:

No democracy sausage at the hall we went to, luckily I had one of last night’s leftovers for brekky this morning.

I’ve yet to personally see a democracy sausage station at any election ever. It’s anarchy anorexia here.

From now on all voting places will have mandatory barbecues.

And beer.

Ya got my vote.

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Date: 3/05/2025 15:25:32
From: Michael V
ID: 2278325
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

You got that bed made yet?

Even more important, did the old car start?

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Date: 3/05/2025 15:26:34
From: Kingy
ID: 2278326
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Actually, most of the political party choices stunk. There’s not enough last places to go around.

I was looking for a decent party to vote for, like the Tupperware Party, or the Birthday Party.

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Date: 3/05/2025 15:41:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278329
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Kingy said:


Actually, most of the political party choices stunk. There’s not enough last places to go around.

I was looking for a decent party to vote for, like the Tupperware Party, or the Birthday Party.

I thought the same. The paper was loaded with too many loonies. Impossible to find enough last places.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:04:08
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278341
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Kingy said:


Actually, most of the political party choices stunk. There’s not enough last places to go around.

I was looking for a decent party to vote for, like the Tupperware Party, or the Birthday Party.

Where did the Pirate Party go?

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:05:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278342
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:06:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278343
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Kingy said:

Actually, most of the political party choices stunk. There’s not enough last places to go around.

I was looking for a decent party to vote for, like the Tupperware Party, or the Birthday Party.

Where did the Pirate Party go?

Changed their name to Fusion Party?

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:07:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278344
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

That ballot paper page made it easy by colour coding those participants who preferenced each other?

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:08:42
From: buffy
ID: 2278346
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

That’s been tried before, with very poor outcomes.

People should wash their hands.

Well, it wasn’t beer, it was rum. But the story goes that in colonial times before the secret ballot, candidates and their supporters outside would hand out tots of rum as an inducement to vote. Ended up with the supporters getting drunk and rowdy and intimidating voters. or fist fights broke out between different groups of drunken supporters.

And that reminded me..this morning when I was talking to the Alex Dyson people at our polling booth, an AEC person came through to speak to all the hander outers and remind them that they must not intimidate, crowd or impede the progress of voters coming in to the booth.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:17:18
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278352
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Family First lady at our polling place raised the ‘issue’ of Labor “allowing abortions at any stage of the pregnancy, no matter how far along, and live births being left to die on counters”.

I considered correcting her, but decided that it was not worth the effort.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:17:18
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278353
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Family First lady at our polling place raised the ‘issue’ of Labor “allowing abortions at any stage of the pregnancy, no matter how far along, and live births being left to die on counters”.

I considered correcting her, but decided that it was not worth the effort.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:17:20
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2278354
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Kingy said:

Actually, most of the political party choices stunk. There’s not enough last places to go around.

I was looking for a decent party to vote for, like the Tupperware Party, or the Birthday Party.

Where did the Pirate Party go?

The main two parties made the registration requirements even more difficult, thus effectively eliminating minor parties like that.
So several of them got together so they had enough numbers and formed as the single Fusion Party.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:18:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278357
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Kingy said:

Actually, most of the political party choices stunk. There’s not enough last places to go around.

I was looking for a decent party to vote for, like the Tupperware Party, or the Birthday Party.

Where did the Pirate Party go?

The main two parties made the registration requirements even more difficult, thus effectively eliminating minor parties like that.
So several of them got together so they had enough numbers and formed as the single Fusion Party.

So, a vote for the Fusion Party is not a vote for more resources for a source of clean energy?

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:20:10
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2278358
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Where did the Pirate Party go?

The main two parties made the registration requirements even more difficult, thus effectively eliminating minor parties like that.
So several of them got together so they had enough numbers and formed as the single Fusion Party.

So, a vote for the Fusion Party is not a vote for more resources for a source of clean energy?

I know what you mean, but indirectly yes.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:20:41
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278359
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


The Family First lady at our polling place raised the ‘issue’ of Labor “allowing abortions at any stage of the pregnancy, no matter how far along, and live births being left to die on counters”.

I considered correcting her, but decided that it was not worth the effort.

I woulda laughed in her face and showed her how to use Google.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:22:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278360
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

The Family First lady at our polling place raised the ‘issue’ of Labor “allowing abortions at any stage of the pregnancy, no matter how far along, and live births being left to die on counters”.

I considered correcting her, but decided that it was not worth the effort.

I woulda laughed in her face and showed her how to use Google.

OK, next election, we’ll get together.

You tackle her, and i’ll deal with the bloke mentioned this morning, who wanted to see a ‘Military Party’ on the ballot.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:22:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278361
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

People should wash their hands.

Well, it wasn’t beer, it was rum. But the story goes that in colonial times before the secret ballot, candidates and their supporters outside would hand out tots of rum as an inducement to vote. Ended up with the supporters getting drunk and rowdy and intimidating voters. or fist fights broke out between different groups of drunken supporters.

And that reminded me..this morning when I was talking to the Alex Dyson people at our polling booth, an AEC person came through to speak to all the hander outers and remind them that they must not intimidate, crowd or impede the progress of voters coming in to the booth.

The scene was down to earth practical wallk in register, get papers, vote, put in colour coded boxes and walk out. As for the flyers given on he way in, in recycling bin on the way out. No sausage sizzle. Simply hasssle free functional voting process running smoothly.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:24:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278365
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


The Family First lady at our polling place raised the ‘issue’ of Labor “allowing abortions at any stage of the pregnancy, no matter how far along, and live births being left to die on counters”.

I considered correcting her, but decided that it was not worth the effort.

Some arguments are best avoided at the entrance.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:25:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278366
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Where did the Pirate Party go?

The main two parties made the registration requirements even more difficult, thus effectively eliminating minor parties like that.
So several of them got together so they had enough numbers and formed as the single Fusion Party.

So, a vote for the Fusion Party is not a vote for more resources for a source of clean energy?

This.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:26:47
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278367
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

captain_spalding said:

The Family First lady at our polling place raised the ‘issue’ of Labor “allowing abortions at any stage of the pregnancy, no matter how far along, and live births being left to die on counters”.

I considered correcting her, but decided that it was not worth the effort.

I woulda laughed in her face and showed her how to use Google.

OK, next election, we’ll get together.

You tackle her, and i’ll deal with the bloke mentioned this morning, who wanted to see a ‘Military Party’ on the ballot.

Done 🤝

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:29:06
From: dv
ID: 2278371
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

The main two parties made the registration requirements even more difficult, thus effectively eliminating minor parties like that.
So several of them got together so they had enough numbers and formed as the single Fusion Party.

So, a vote for the Fusion Party is not a vote for more resources for a source of clean energy?

This.

They want to ensure there are Eurasian restaurants in every division

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:36:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278373
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

I woulda laughed in her face and showed her how to use Google.

OK, next election, we’ll get together.

You tackle her, and i’ll deal with the bloke mentioned this morning, who wanted to see a ‘Military Party’ on the ballot.

Done 🤝

What we need is less loony parties.

My friend agrees with me that without science he wouldn’t have a guitar to play and etc.. However, he’s always been one that is scared that science may not be correct. The same with reasonable political arguments. There is still some rusted on hate for some politician he can’t remember the name of but he thinks he kknows which party he is or was in.
He could have been diagnosed years ago with early onset of Parkinsons had he trusted a doctor to go to or actually listened to all his friends and his own sister. The reality is that now he is in last stages of the disease and that science doctors and his nearest and dearest are doing the best they can for him. He’s now aware that he IS going to die.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:37:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278375
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

So, a vote for the Fusion Party is not a vote for more resources for a source of clean energy?

This.

They want to ensure there are Eurasian restaurants in every division

Didn’t know that.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:41:22
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278379
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

captain_spalding said:

OK, next election, we’ll get together.

You tackle her, and i’ll deal with the bloke mentioned this morning, who wanted to see a ‘Military Party’ on the ballot.

Done 🤝

What we need is less loony parties.

My friend agrees with me that without science he wouldn’t have a guitar to play and etc.. However, he’s always been one that is scared that science may not be correct. The same with reasonable political arguments. There is still some rusted on hate for some politician he can’t remember the name of but he thinks he kknows which party he is or was in.
He could have been diagnosed years ago with early onset of Parkinsons had he trusted a doctor to go to or actually listened to all his friends and his own sister. The reality is that now he is in last stages of the disease and that science doctors and his nearest and dearest are doing the best they can for him. He’s now aware that he IS going to die.

The thing is, people cherry pick what works for them. I bet the sovcits who denounce the government still use Medicare and get their Centrelink money.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:42:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278380
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

So, a vote for the Fusion Party is not a vote for more resources for a source of clean energy?

This.

They want to ensure there are Eurasian restaurants in every division

And a new public holiday, National Kedgeree Day.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:46:00
From: Michael V
ID: 2278383
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


The Family First lady at our polling place raised the ‘issue’ of Labor “allowing abortions at any stage of the pregnancy, no matter how far along, and live births being left to die on counters”.

I considered correcting her, but decided that it was not worth the effort.

FMD

We had a FF woman here, too. She just showed us which one of the how to vote thingos was for us lot in the Wide Bay Electorate. She didn’t try to argue her way to our voting positions.

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Date: 3/05/2025 16:47:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278385
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Done 🤝

What we need is less loony parties.

My friend agrees with me that without science he wouldn’t have a guitar to play and etc.. However, he’s always been one that is scared that science may not be correct. The same with reasonable political arguments. There is still some rusted on hate for some politician he can’t remember the name of but he thinks he kknows which party he is or was in.
He could have been diagnosed years ago with early onset of Parkinsons had he trusted a doctor to go to or actually listened to all his friends and his own sister. The reality is that now he is in last stages of the disease and that science doctors and his nearest and dearest are doing the best they can for him. He’s now aware that he IS going to die.

The thing is, people cherry pick what works for them. I bet the sovcits who denounce the government still use Medicare and get their Centrelink money.

Yep. I see people who have everything provided to them and still bite the hand that feeds them.

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Date: 3/05/2025 17:44:36
From: buffy
ID: 2278409
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


The Family First lady at our polling place raised the ‘issue’ of Labor “allowing abortions at any stage of the pregnancy, no matter how far along, and live births being left to die on counters”.

I considered correcting her, but decided that it was not worth the effort.

I suppose you could ask her which universe she is living in and if she is an alien. Because she isn’t living in this one.

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Date: 3/05/2025 17:46:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278414
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

The Family First lady at our polling place raised the ‘issue’ of Labor “allowing abortions at any stage of the pregnancy, no matter how far along, and live births being left to die on counters”.

I considered correcting her, but decided that it was not worth the effort.

I suppose you could ask her which universe she is living in and if she is an alien. Because she isn’t living in this one.

Or ask her what she’s been smoking.

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Date: 3/05/2025 17:48:37
From: Michael V
ID: 2278418
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

The Family First lady at our polling place raised the ‘issue’ of Labor “allowing abortions at any stage of the pregnancy, no matter how far along, and live births being left to die on counters”.

I considered correcting her, but decided that it was not worth the effort.

I suppose you could ask her which universe she is living in and if she is an alien. Because she isn’t living in this one.

Or ask her what she’s been smoking.

LOL

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Date: 3/05/2025 17:48:45
From: dv
ID: 2278419
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

It’s kind of funny that in 2025, there’s still a radio and TV blackout LAGAS, but the pace of social media and youtube advertising goes berserk in the final days of the campaign.

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Date: 3/05/2025 17:51:03
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278423
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

We all watching ABC’s election coverage to wave off Antony Green?

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Date: 3/05/2025 17:52:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278424
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


We all watching ABC’s election coverage to wave off Antony Green?

Aye. It’s already started, I’ll turn on the tellybox.

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Date: 3/05/2025 17:53:44
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2278427
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


It’s kind of funny that in 2025, there’s still a radio and TV blackout LAGAS, but the pace of social media and youtube advertising goes berserk in the final days of the campaign.

I run a PiHole and various ad-blockers. I haven’t seen one advert yet and much to my pleasant surprise no texts from the usual suspects.

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Date: 3/05/2025 17:53:44
From: party_pants
ID: 2278428
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


We all watching ABC’s election coverage to wave off Antony Green?

I’ll be watching it mostly to see who wins.

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Date: 3/05/2025 17:54:45
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278429
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Wish my electorate had a cool name like Bullwinkle.

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Date: 3/05/2025 17:58:09
From: buffy
ID: 2278432
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


We all watching ABC’s election coverage to wave off Antony Green?

Yes.

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Date: 3/05/2025 17:58:57
From: Michael V
ID: 2278435
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Wish my electorate had a cool name like Bullwinkle.

Rocky?

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Date: 3/05/2025 17:59:38
From: Michael V
ID: 2278436
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


We all watching ABC’s election coverage to wave off Antony Green?

Possibly, at some stage.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:01:38
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278438
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Polls are closed! Time to pop some corn.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:02:38
From: buffy
ID: 2278440
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Wish my electorate had a cool name like Bullwinkle.

Rocky?

Viv.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:02:55
From: buffy
ID: 2278441
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Polls are closed! Time to pop some corn.

I’ll do that after I’ve eaten my fish and chips.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:02:55
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278442
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:03:58
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278444
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Wish my electorate had a cool name like Bullwinkle.

Rocky?

They should have given the electorate which contains Rockhampton (‘Capricornia’) the name ‘Bullwinkle’.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:05:04
From: Michael V
ID: 2278445
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Wish my electorate had a cool name like Bullwinkle.

Rocky?

Viv.

Nurse. (Yes, I knew.)

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:06:12
From: Michael V
ID: 2278446
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:



FMD!

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:06:51
From: Michael V
ID: 2278447
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Wish my electorate had a cool name like Bullwinkle.

Rocky?

They should have given the electorate which contains Rockhampton (‘Capricornia’) the name ‘Bullwinkle’.

I wholeheartedly agree.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:09:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278448
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Rocky?

They should have given the electorate which contains Rockhampton (‘Capricornia’) the name ‘Bullwinkle’.

I wholeheartedly agree.

I’m sure that it must have crossed someone’s mind, but they just didn’t dare.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:14:19
From: Michael V
ID: 2278451
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

They should have given the electorate which contains Rockhampton (‘Capricornia’) the name ‘Bullwinkle’.

I wholeheartedly agree.

I’m sure that it must have crossed someone’s mind, but they just didn’t dare.

Here we have the fabulously inglorious “Wide Bay” electorate.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:17:15
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2278453
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Voted a few days ago, so decided to do a Democracy Sausage crawl today.
Only visited a few booths. Discovered there’s a limit to how many democracy sausages you can face, let alone eat, in the space of an hour or two.

:)

Had a nice chat with a few of the volunteers handing out the how-to-vote cards; also learned about one of the local fooderies which had supplied that booth’s snags. They were rather good, according to the people I spoke to.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:20:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278455
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

I wholeheartedly agree.

I’m sure that it must have crossed someone’s mind, but they just didn’t dare.

Here we have the fabulously inglorious “Wide Bay” electorate.

Another of the place names awarded to Australia’s geography by people with minimal inspiration.

If you didn’t think to name it after some big-wig back in England (‘does that please you, m’lord?’), you named it for some utterly facile observation of its characteristics.

‘What shall we name this place, Scroggins?’

‘It’s quite a wide bay, sir…’

‘Wide Bay, it is then!’.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:21:05
From: Michael V
ID: 2278456
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Maybe I should cook my own sausages for breakfast tomorrow, seeing as we don’t get offered Democracy Sausages here. I might discuss the possibility with Mrs V.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:28:15
From: Michael V
ID: 2278460
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

I’m sure that it must have crossed someone’s mind, but they just didn’t dare.

Here we have the fabulously inglorious “Wide Bay” electorate.

Another of the place names awarded to Australia’s geography by people with minimal inspiration.

If you didn’t think to name it after some big-wig back in England (‘does that please you, m’lord?’), you named it for some utterly facile observation of its characteristics.

‘What shall we name this place, Scroggins?’

‘It’s quite a wide bay, sir…’

‘Wide Bay, it is then!’.

We have a few more like that around here, named by the same bloke.

Carlo Sand Blow (named after a crew member or cabin boy or somebody)

Double Island Point (originally Double Island, until they got closer and realised it was attached to the mainland)

Seventy Five Mile Beach (because it is a long beach).

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:28:24
From: Woodie
ID: 2278462
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

FMD….. 150 seats in doubt, so says Aunty.

That’s a bloody close election, hey what but!

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:30:48
From: Woodie
ID: 2278463
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Maybe I should cook my own sausages for breakfast tomorrow, seeing as we don’t get offered Democracy Sausages here. I might discuss the possibility with Mrs V.

Make sure they are winning sausages, Mr V. If they’re losing sausages, then chuck ‘em in the bin.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:31:31
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278464
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Maybe I should cook my own sausages for breakfast tomorrow, seeing as we don’t get offered Democracy Sausages here. I might discuss the possibility with Mrs V.

Make sure they are winning sausages, Mr V. If they’re losing sausages, then chuck ‘em in the bin.

Will losing potatoes be similarly dumped?

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:32:21
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278465
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


FMD….. 150 seats in doubt, so says Aunty.

That’s a bloody close election, hey what but!

Love ya work, Mr Woodie 😘

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:32:32
From: party_pants
ID: 2278466
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Here we have the fabulously inglorious “Wide Bay” electorate.

Another of the place names awarded to Australia’s geography by people with minimal inspiration.

If you didn’t think to name it after some big-wig back in England (‘does that please you, m’lord?’), you named it for some utterly facile observation of its characteristics.

‘What shall we name this place, Scroggins?’

‘It’s quite a wide bay, sir…’

‘Wide Bay, it is then!’.

We have a few more like that around here, named by the same bloke.

Carlo Sand Blow (named after a crew member or cabin boy or somebody)

Double Island Point (originally Double Island, until they got closer and realised it was attached to the mainland)

Seventy Five Mile Beach (because it is a long beach).

In WA we have an “Eighty Mile Beach” that actually stretches along over 135 miles. between Port Hedland and Broome.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:36:06
From: Woodie
ID: 2278468
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Maybe I should cook my own sausages for breakfast tomorrow, seeing as we don’t get offered Democracy Sausages here. I might discuss the possibility with Mrs V.

Make sure they are winning sausages, Mr V. If they’re losing sausages, then chuck ‘em in the bin.

Will losing potatoes be similarly dumped?

If they look like their namesake, then I’d have dumped then already.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:41:23
From: Woodie
ID: 2278469
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Look at this, Mr V. Check out the swing!!

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:50:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278473
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Look at this, Mr V. Check out the swing!!


0.2 count lol

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:51:04
From: Michael V
ID: 2278474
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


FMD….. 150 seats in doubt, so says Aunty.

That’s a bloody close election, hey what but!

But, but, but, but. What are the Early Booths doing???

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:54:32
From: Michael V
ID: 2278475
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Maybe I should cook my own sausages for breakfast tomorrow, seeing as we don’t get offered Democracy Sausages here. I might discuss the possibility with Mrs V.

Make sure they are winning sausages, Mr V. If they’re losing sausages, then chuck ‘em in the bin.

I can figure that bit out in the morning.

If they are winning sausages, I’ll chew and swallow them.

If they are losing sausages, I’ll masticate and then use peristalsis on them.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:55:18
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278476
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

And in Berowra with a massive 0.1% counted:

Labor ahead!

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:55:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2278477
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Maybe I should cook my own sausages for breakfast tomorrow, seeing as we don’t get offered Democracy Sausages here. I might discuss the possibility with Mrs V.

Make sure they are winning sausages, Mr V. If they’re losing sausages, then chuck ‘em in the bin.

Will losing potatoes be similarly dumped?

The potato’s mum said that it’s his turn…

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:58:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278479
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

That’s always been the weakness of election coverage – too many talking heads, not enough interpretive dance.

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:58:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278480
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

victory

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Date: 3/05/2025 18:59:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2278481
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Another of the place names awarded to Australia’s geography by people with minimal inspiration.

If you didn’t think to name it after some big-wig back in England (‘does that please you, m’lord?’), you named it for some utterly facile observation of its characteristics.

‘What shall we name this place, Scroggins?’

‘It’s quite a wide bay, sir…’

‘Wide Bay, it is then!’.

We have a few more like that around here, named by the same bloke.

Carlo Sand Blow (named after a crew member or cabin boy or somebody)

Double Island Point (originally Double Island, until they got closer and realised it was attached to the mainland)

Seventy Five Mile Beach (because it is a long beach).

In WA we have an “Eighty Mile Beach” that actually stretches along over 135 miles. between Port Hedland and Broome.

Sailors and land measurements, hey.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:01:14
From: Michael V
ID: 2278482
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Look at this, Mr V. Check out the swing!!


Let’s hope it sticks beyond The Early Booths…

I’d love for ALP to win it.

:)

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:03:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278484
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

BIG swing to the ALP in Tassie at this stage.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:03:32
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278485
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Silly question from the peanut gallery: when ABC shows a seat with 37% to one party, 2.4% to another etc, are they first preferences?

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:05:13
From: Michael V
ID: 2278486
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


That’s always been the weakness of election coverage – too many talking heads, not enough interpretive dance.

Isn’t Raelene Gunn there?

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:06:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278487
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Silly question from the peanut gallery: when ABC shows a seat with 37% to one party, 2.4% to another etc, are they first preferences?

At this stage, yes.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:06:58
From: party_pants
ID: 2278488
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


That’s always been the weakness of election coverage – too many talking heads, not enough interpretive dance.

It’s not Eurovision

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:07:06
From: Woodie
ID: 2278489
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Aunty is now saying LNP – 6 , ALP – 1.

Old Potato head will be letting out little bits of wee on those figures, hey what but.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:09:27
From: dv
ID: 2278490
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Hard to say anything yet …

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:09:30
From: Woodie
ID: 2278491
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Have you got a good selection on sozzling beverages for this auspicious occasion, Parpyone?

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:09:32
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278492
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

At the moment the ALP is ahead in my very safe LNP seat.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:11:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278493
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Have you got a good selection on sozzling beverages for this auspicious occasion, Parpyone?

Aye, nursing a whisky at this stage. There’s beer and wine in stock as well.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:11:59
From: buffy
ID: 2278494
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


That’s always been the weakness of election coverage – too many talking heads, not enough interpretive dance.

Here is our indie candidate’s offering of interpretive dance when he first stood, two elections ago.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=425265554972422

If you really want interpretive dance…

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:12:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278495
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


Aye, nursing a whisky at this stage. There’s beer and wine in stock as well.

Stop saying “stage”. You’ve said “stage” in your last three posts.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:14:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278496
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

That’s always been the weakness of election coverage – too many talking heads, not enough interpretive dance.

Here is our indie candidate’s offering of interpretive dance when he first stood, two elections ago.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=425265554972422

If you really want interpretive dance…

Heh.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:14:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278497
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Look at this, Mr V. Check out the swing!!


I say, that’s significant.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:15:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278498
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Aye, nursing a whisky at this stage. There’s beer and wine in stock as well.

Stop saying “stage”. You’ve said “stage” in your last three posts.

You’re just an old stager.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:16:58
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278500
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

In the 2022 election, Dickson had a massive swing to Labor before coming right back to ALP.

This is as of now.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:21:52
From: buffy
ID: 2278501
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Obviously I’m interested in my own electorate…here is where we stand at the moment. The votes counted so far are likely to be the small outlying booths.

Link to ABC

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:28:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278502
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Early swing against Dutton in his seat.

Greens going berserk.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:31:03
From: Kingy
ID: 2278504
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


Woodie said:

Have you got a good selection on sozzling beverages for this auspicious occasion, Parpyone?

Aye, nursing a whisky at this stage. There’s beer and wine in stock as well.

Is democracy whiskey a thing?

Cheers.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:31:29
From: Ian
ID: 2278505
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Well I the thing for Lab 15 minutes ago.

Come on Antony!

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:32:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278506
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Obviously I’m interested in my own electorate…here is where we stand at the moment. The votes counted so far are likely to be the small outlying booths.

Link to ABC

Here’s my seat, Lyons. Rebecca should win this easily. Brian Mitchell only just hung on for Labor last time.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:32:35
From: Kingy
ID: 2278508
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Ian said:


Well I the thing for Lab 15 minutes ago.

Come on Antony!

Oooh, that’s up there with:

“What to girl when the get drunk?”

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:33:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278509
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Kingy said:


Ian said:

Well I the thing for Lab 15 minutes ago.

Come on Antony!

Oooh, that’s up there with:

“What to girl when the get drunk?”

Called, called, he called the thing.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:38:10
From: Ian
ID: 2278510
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Kingy said:


Ian said:

Well I the thing for Lab 15 minutes ago.

Come on Antony!

Oooh, that’s up there with:

“What to girl when the get drunk?”

:)

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:38:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278511
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Antony has just more-or-less announced that the Coalition can’t win, with these figures.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:39:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278512
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


Antony has just more-or-less announced that the Coalition can’t win, with these figures.

…and, as the suns slowly sets on Peter Dutton….

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:40:27
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278513
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

Antony has just more-or-less announced that the Coalition can’t win, with these figures.

…and, as the suns slowly sets on Peter Dutton….

‘…suns..’

I blame Election Night Drinking Club.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:45:23
From: Woodie
ID: 2278517
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

There’s a good lot of ethnic diversity on Tony Burke’s supporters.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:46:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278519
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Shaping up to be a thorough thumping of the Coalition, it seems.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:48:33
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278522
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


Shaping up to be a thorough thumping of the Coalition, it seems.

I don’t think there’s any fat ladies singing yet.

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Date: 3/05/2025 19:59:48
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278532
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Jackie Lambie is unhinged and I’m here for it

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:03:21
From: party_pants
ID: 2278534
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Polling has closed in WA.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:05:04
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278536
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

In my electorate, Trumpets were first on the green ballot. Looking at the AEC data, they’re getting some votes so I’m thinking people started at the top and numbered down.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:07:30
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278538
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Lefty ABC just now telling me that Greens are horrible people.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:08:26
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2278539
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Lefty ABC just now telling me that Greens are horrible people.

It’s rare they get things right.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:08:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278540
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Lefty ABC just now telling me that Greens are horrible people.

That was embarrassing for all concerned I think.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:11:08
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278541
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


In my electorate, Trumpets were first on the green ballot. Looking at the AEC data, they’re getting some votes so I’m thinking people started at the top and numbered down.

i think that there should be different versions of the ballet paper. candidates in random order so this type of voting has a lesser effect.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:11:47
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278542
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Lefty ABC just now telling me that Greens are horrible people.

That was embarrassing for all concerned I think.

Look, I get news has to have an opposing view, but this moron was acting like a massive douche canoe.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:19:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278544
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woohoo, looks like Dutton’s lost his seat.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:20:47
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278545
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Someone’s head is gonna roll for the ABC graphics going down. They’re looking at the AEC data to broadcast verbally lol.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:22:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278549
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Someone’s head is gonna roll for the ABC graphics going down. They’re looking at the AEC data to broadcast verbally lol.

It’s a final challenge for Antony, and he’s looking understandably flustered now and then but soldiering on admirably.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:24:09
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278550
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


Woohoo, looks like Dutton’s lost his seat.

I am very wary. Here’s a screenshot from 2022.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:24:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278551
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:



Ack!

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:25:03
From: Woodie
ID: 2278552
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Polling has closed in WA.

WOO HOO!!!

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:26:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278553
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Antony has called it for Labor.

“This could be a big win for Labor, but it’s certainly a win.”

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:27:43
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278555
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Interestingly, Sky News has also called it for Labor.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:28:19
From: party_pants
ID: 2278556
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

.. and AG has called it

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:31:42
From: furious
ID: 2278557
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


.. and AG has called it

Why is abc iview “live stream” of abc news delayed by an hour? Just noticed it is an hour behind and my FTA is crap so wanted to watch it streaming. Flicked over to check the FTA version at the moment it was called. Crap coverage…

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:32:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278558
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

It’s a happy evening at Labor HQ and a happy evening in the Car household :)

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:32:40
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278559
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

furious said:


party_pants said:

.. and AG has called it

Why is abc iview “live stream” of abc news delayed by an hour? Just noticed it is an hour behind and my FTA is crap so wanted to watch it streaming. Flicked over to check the FTA version at the moment it was called. Crap coverage…

Their Amazon server is down.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:33:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278560
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Interestingly, Sky News has also called it for Labor.

It looks like they’ve stormed in Queensland did swing and Victoria’s Liberals failed again.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:33:54
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2278561
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The seat of Melbourne is not responding………….come in Melbourne.
Over.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:35:15
From: buffy
ID: 2278562
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

And Antony’s got his pretty pictures back.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:37:06
From: Woodie
ID: 2278563
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Interestingly, Sky News has also called it for Labor.

They all have.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:39:43
From: party_pants
ID: 2278564
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Divine Angel said:

Interestingly, Sky News has also called it for Labor.

They all have.

.. and i’m only halfway through the 6-pack

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:40:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278566
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Woodie said:

Divine Angel said:

Interestingly, Sky News has also called it for Labor.

They all have.

.. and i’m only halfway through the 6-pack

Plenty left for some dancing.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:41:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278567
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

AG said Peter Dick, er Peter Dutton.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:41:23
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278568
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Divine Angel said:

Interestingly, Sky News has also called it for Labor.

They all have.

Well, yeah, but Sky usually fuck around until it’s impossible to ignore.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:42:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278569
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Antony has announced that Dutton has lost his seat :)

WOOHOO!

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:42:42
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278570
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Hilariously, my LNP safe seat has also fallen to Labor. Shoulda put a few bucks on Sportsbet, they had Labor for about $10 and LNP for $1.02.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:43:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278571
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Hilariously, my LNP safe seat has also fallen to Labor. Shoulda put a few bucks on Sportsbet, they had Labor for about $10 and LNP for $1.02.

Congrats :)

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:46:28
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278572
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

This is why I’m not a tv presenter. I wouldn’t be saying, “I respect you James, but…” I’d be saying, “you’re a fuckin douche canoe, read the room, you guys lost”.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:52:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278573
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I was expecting a Labor win but it’s all been much more gratifying, a hefty kick in the arse for the nasties and the potato turfed out entirely.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:54:33
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2278574
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Barnaby has been reelected with an increased majority.
Over.

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:56:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278575
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


Barnaby has been reelected with an increased majority.
Over.

Will they try to wake him up and tell him, or wait until Monday?

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Date: 3/05/2025 20:56:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278576
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

who is james

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:00:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278579
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

A lot of blaming of Trump going on for the Liberal walloping.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:00:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278580
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:

A lot of blaming of Trump going on for the Liberal walloping.

saving the world again

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:02:13
From: party_pants
ID: 2278583
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


A lot of blaming of Trump going on for the Liberal walloping.

Some of it is true.

Some of I think is that Australian electorate are over the culture wars and want to get down to real policy or real issues. Welcome to Country ceremonies and flying what flag when just aren’t that important.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:02:58
From: Kingy
ID: 2278584
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


A lot of blaming of Trump going on for the Liberal walloping.

Not surprised. There’s about(roughly) half of the electorate that have some idea of what is going on and vote accordingly.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:03:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2278585
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


A lot of blaming of Trump going on for the Liberal walloping.

He didn’t do the Canadian Conservatives any favors either.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:04:09
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278586
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

A lot of blaming of Trump going on for the Liberal walloping.

Some of it is true.

Some of I think is that Australian electorate are over the culture wars and want to get down to real policy or real issues. Welcome to Country ceremonies and flying what flag when just aren’t that important.

I’d hope the nuclear plan also had something to do with it.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:04:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278587
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:


who is james

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McGrath_(Australian_politician)

Includes comments added this evening that will doubtless be removed :)

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:06:04
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278588
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Why the f are they talking to Jacinta Price

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:07:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278589
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Why the f are they talking to Jacinta Price

I’m blocking her out with some nice indigenous music.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:07:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278590
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

A lot of blaming of Trump going on for the Liberal walloping.

He didn’t do the Canadian Conservatives any favors either.

well they should have made a deal

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:08:52
From: party_pants
ID: 2278591
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Why the f are they talking to Jacinta Price

Hoping she’ll spit the dummy and say something controversial probably.

I don’t know, I hit the mute button on her already…

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:08:57
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278592
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

A lot of blaming of Trump going on for the Liberal walloping.

Some of it is true.

Some of I think is that Australian electorate are over the culture wars and want to get down to real policy or real issues. Welcome to Country ceremonies and flying what flag when just aren’t that important.

I’d hope the nuclear plan also had something to do with it.

Just have to wait for the post mortems.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:09:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278593
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

Why the f are they talking to Jacinta Price

I’m blocking her out with some nice indigenous music.

it’s like those terrible video games where after you defeat the big baddie you have to fight their shadow and their ghost and their phantom and their echo and their visage and their afterimage and their reflection and their imprint and so on and so forth

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:09:18
From: buffy
ID: 2278594
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Why the f are they talking to Jacinta Price

Only one of her noddies is actually nodding.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:10:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278595
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

Some of it is true.

Some of I think is that Australian electorate are over the culture wars and want to get down to real policy or real issues. Welcome to Country ceremonies and flying what flag when just aren’t that important.

I’d hope the nuclear plan also had something to do with it.

Just have to wait for the post mortems.

fuck that can’t the world move on already and let the fights be between labour parties and green parties

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:11:57
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278596
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Despite the result I’m feeling very sweary tonight. Mostly with the RWNJs on ABC.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:14:49
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278597
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

#dicksoutforDickson

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:15:04
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278598
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Onya bike Spud

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:15:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278599
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

well look he should at least be proud to be first in something

Peter Dutton projected to be first opposition leader to ever lose seat in election

Antony Green has projected Peter Dutton to not just lose the election, but also his own seat of Dickson. His loss would leave the Coalition leaderless and represent a rebuke of his campaign. No federal opposition leader has ever lost their seat at an election. Former prime ministers, including John Howard, have lost their seat at a federal election.

not sure we agree with the implication here though

His loss would leave the Coalition leaderless and

wasn’t it already leaderless

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:17:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278601
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

well all right maybe

but c’m‘on be fair

Antony Green has taken a look at the nationwide primary vote with just over 20 per cent of the vote counted.

David Speers points out that it would be the Coalition’s lowest primary vote ever. However, he points out that pre-poll votes are still to be counted.

surely it’s close to the communists’ lowest primary vote ever too

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:19:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278603
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Wonder if Trump will call to congratulate Albo.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:22:07
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278605
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Has Clive Palmer wasted his money and not getting a single seat?

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:22:12
From: party_pants
ID: 2278606
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Wonder if Trump will call to congratulate Albo.

Probably not.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:22:53
From: party_pants
ID: 2278607
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Has Clive Palmer wasted his money and not getting a single seat?

We won’t know till next week when the Senate counts are finalised.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:23:30
From: Woodie
ID: 2278608
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Wonder if Trump will call to congratulate Albo.

I think Albo should call Trump and congratulate him on having such an impact on the Australian election.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:24:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278609
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:


Onya bike Spud


Headed for the compost heap.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:30:26
From: dv
ID: 2278610
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Well that was done faster than expected

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:30:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278611
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:

Divine Angel said:

Wonder if Trump will call to congratulate Albo.

I think Albo should call Trump and congratulate him on having such an impact on the Australian election.

well that’s a bit condescendingly offensive, maybe he could just be more polite and thank him instead

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:31:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278612
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:

Well that was done faster than expected

^ this +1 good

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:31:22
From: party_pants
ID: 2278613
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

9.30pm EST is quite early for a concession speech

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:31:57
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278614
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Dutton’s about to speak. I’m sure it will be riveting

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:32:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278615
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Liberal HQ, screaming applause for the goon who’s just delivered a major defeat.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:32:21
From: dv
ID: 2278616
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

And thanks PD for an early concession

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:33:05
From: party_pants
ID: 2278617
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


Liberal HQ, screaming applause for the goon who’s just delivered a major defeat.

they have to, it’s in the rules.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:34:09
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278618
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I’ll say this about Dutton, he’s not a bad speaker.

Then again, compared to Trump, my talking budgie is a good speaker.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:35:47
From: party_pants
ID: 2278619
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


I’ll say this about Dutton, he’s not a bad speaker.

Then again, compared to Trump, my talking budgie is a good speaker.

Not having dementia makes a big difference. He sounds coherent mentally.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:36:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278620
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Well he’s made the right noises. As dv says, we should be thankful Australia remains a more-or-less normal democracy.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:36:39
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278621
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Don’t “rebuild” the LNP, build a party people want to vote for.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:38:47
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2278622
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


And thanks PD for an early concession

What happens if a candidate concedes, but further counting shows they haven’t lost and, in fact, have won. Do they go on to claim the seat, or is it all over for them?

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:40:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278623
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

would have been funnier if AA lost his own seat to the green people too

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:40:39
From: party_pants
ID: 2278624
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


Well he’s made the right noises. As dv says, we should be thankful Australia remains a more-or-less normal democracy.

I think that was a pretty fair speech. Must be hard to say all that without choking up on all the emotions of the night.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:40:50
From: fsm
ID: 2278625
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:42:04
From: dv
ID: 2278626
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

AussieDJ said:


dv said:

And thanks PD for an early concession

What happens if a candidate concedes, but further counting shows they haven’t lost and, in fact, have won. Do they go on to claim the seat, or is it all over for them?

Concession is nothing. It’s just a speech

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:42:38
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278627
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Latest from Berowra (which is as Lib as you can get), with 53% counted, shows Libs ahead at 51.5%, but that’s a 6.1% swing to Lab, and it seems to me there is a real possibility of Libs losing, for the first time evah.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:43:40
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278628
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

Well he’s made the right noises. As dv says, we should be thankful Australia remains a more-or-less normal democracy.

I think that was a pretty fair speech. Must be hard to say all that without choking up on all the emotions of the night.

It was a gracious concession speech. Apologising to his party mates who lost their seats, taking the blame for their loss, calling Ali to congratulate her. It takes a lot of guts to say all that.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:44:40
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2278629
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


AussieDJ said:

dv said:

And thanks PD for an early concession

What happens if a candidate concedes, but further counting shows they haven’t lost and, in fact, have won. Do they go on to claim the seat, or is it all over for them?

Concession is nothing. It’s just a speech

Thanks.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:44:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278630
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

Well he’s made the right noises. As dv says, we should be thankful Australia remains a more-or-less normal democracy.

I think that was a pretty fair speech. Must be hard to say all that without choking up on all the emotions of the night.

He’s a very rich man and is probably already planning all sorts of more relaxing activities.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:45:16
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278631
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

James McGrath has personally blamed me and my fellow residents for voting out that vile Luke Howarth LOL.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:45:23
From: Ian
ID: 2278632
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:45:37
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278633
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

AussieDJ said:


dv said:

And thanks PD for an early concession

What happens if a candidate concedes, but further counting shows they haven’t lost and, in fact, have won. Do they go on to claim the seat, or is it all over for them?

depends on whether the other candidate has put dibs on it.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:48:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2278634
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


And thanks PD for an early concession

Bye bye Mr Potato head.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:50:08
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278635
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Is James McGrath eyeing off party leadership or sumfink?

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:50:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278636
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Last election the ABC copped a lot of flak for focusing far too much on the Coalition in their election coverage and commentary, and the same thing is happening this year, but even worse.

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:54:38
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278637
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

How long is his arm??

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:55:51
From: party_pants
ID: 2278638
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

get on with it Penny, it’s not about you…

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Date: 3/05/2025 21:58:39
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278640
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


How long is his arm??


it’s that long arm of the law.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:02:40
From: Woodie
ID: 2278641
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Well….. They can tell thems cross benchers to GAGF now, hey what but!!!

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:02:43
From: dv
ID: 2278642
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Liberals wiped out in Tasmania.

Not sure why Tas can’t vote like this in State elections, must be Rockliff’s charm

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:04:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278643
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Liberals wiped out in Tasmania.

Not sure why Tas can’t vote like this in State elections, must be Rockliff’s charm

Um, yeah…

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:05:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278644
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

It’s a good confident victory speech from the Albo, turning on the full somewhat clumsy marsupial charm.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:05:57
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278645
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Waiting for Trump to complain about Australia being leftist and woke…

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:07:11
From: dv
ID: 2278646
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Well….. They can tell thems cross benchers to GAGF now, hey what but!!!

They will still need the crossbench to get bills past the Senate

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:07:59
From: dv
ID: 2278647
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


It’s a good confident victory speech from the Albo, turning on the full somewhat clumsy marsupial charm.

He does have something of the well-intentioned wombat about him

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:09:05
From: party_pants
ID: 2278648
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

OK, Albo, time to start wrapping it up

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:09:07
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2278649
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Coming to a bookshop near you “How to stuff up big time” , by Peter (Spud) Dutton.
A gripping saga of how to push a political party into oblivion.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:09:28
From: buffy
ID: 2278650
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

It’s a good confident victory speech from the Albo, turning on the full somewhat clumsy marsupial charm.

He does have something of the well-intentioned wombat about him

I’ll take that over a demented kindergartener any day thank you.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:10:15
From: party_pants
ID: 2278651
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Is he channeling Bob Hawke with the ‘my fellow Australians” stuff?

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:10:22
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278652
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

It’s a good confident victory speech from the Albo, turning on the full somewhat clumsy marsupial charm.

He does have something of the well-intentioned wombat about him

You have such a way with words.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:11:26
From: furious
ID: 2278653
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

AussieDJ said:


Coming to a bookshop near you “How to stuff up big time” , by Peter (Spud) Dutton.
A gripping saga of how to push a political party into oblivion.

It’s a follow up to shortens silimilarly named tome…

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:11:55
From: party_pants
ID: 2278654
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s a good confident victory speech from the Albo, turning on the full somewhat clumsy marsupial charm.

He does have something of the well-intentioned wombat about him

I’ll take that over a demented kindergartener any day thank you.

It makes a big difference when the speakers have a functioning brain. both Albo and Dutton. At least they are switched on mentally.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:13:50
From: dv
ID: 2278655
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s a good confident victory speech from the Albo, turning on the full somewhat clumsy marsupial charm.

He does have something of the well-intentioned wombat about him

You have such a way with words.

I’m the Wordsworth of WA

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:15:31
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278656
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


buffy said:

dv said:

He does have something of the well-intentioned wombat about him

I’ll take that over a demented kindergartener any day thank you.

It makes a big difference when the speakers have a functioning brain. both Albo and Dutton. At least they are switched on mentally.

Apart from calling each other liars in the debates, they were still somewhat respectful towards each other during the campaign. You’ve got Demented Don refusing to shake Kamala’s hand or even look her in the eye, then you’ve got Dutton & Albo being comparatively classy.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:17:11
From: party_pants
ID: 2278657
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I’m bored now. Wrap it up or I’m going to switch off

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:17:13
From: ruby
ID: 2278658
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

This is a fun night.
I reckon Gina is going to be frightfully cranky though. And Rupert.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:17:33
From: buffy
ID: 2278659
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


I’m bored now. Wrap it up or I’m going to switch off

Mr buffy is going to bed. I’ll last a bit longer.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:18:49
From: furious
ID: 2278660
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


I’m bored now. Wrap it up or I’m going to switch off

+1

I think the pre speech wines are kicking in now…

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:22:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278661
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Wrapped up nicely, although rather too long with too much repetition.

Time for a pot of coffee.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:24:24
From: Ian
ID: 2278663
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Former (suck shit twat) member for Dickson, Peter Dutton, has suffered a devastating loss at the hands of his own rhetoric, as Australians overwhelmingly vote ‘No’ to him.

In a massive surprise to everyone who didn;t watched the campaign, debates, polls, or betting market, Peter Dutton has lost not only the election, but his own seat. Serving as a reminder that no satire is funnier than reality.

The resounding loss for the Liberal Party comes after Australian voters treated this election as a referendum on the crucial issue of Peter Dutton.

To which they overwhelmingly voted: hell fucking no.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:27:53
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2278664
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The ABC is now predicting the Labs will win 86 seats and the Greens will lose all of their lower house representation

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:29:11
From: dv
ID: 2278665
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Certainly seems as though this will be the worst result in the history of the Liberal party, in terms of seats as a % of total.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:31:02
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2278666
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Even Sturt has flipped to the Labs – there was a an almost 12% first preference swing against the Libs

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:31:23
From: Woodie
ID: 2278667
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Ms Mum has been very quiet tonight.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:31:23
From: dv
ID: 2278668
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:

The ABC is now predicting the Labs will win 86 seats and the Greens will lose all of their lower house representation

They are still showing 15 seats in doubt, and I would expect the Greens to win Ryan and Richmond, still in the running for a couple more.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:31:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278669
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Ms Mum has been very quiet tonight.

Yes, I’ve been worried about her.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:34:35
From: dv
ID: 2278670
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Have to say this is not a very good day at the office for the polling houses, as the 2pp may be in the realm of 56-44.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:34:57
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2278671
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


diddly-squat said:

The ABC is now predicting the Labs will win 86 seats and the Greens will lose all of their lower house representation

They are still showing 15 seats in doubt, and I would expect the Greens to win Ryan and Richmond, still in the running for a couple more.

I personally think the Greens have done more to damage climate policy in this country than the Libs, Nats and Labs combined… An electoral wipeout for them is good.

Irrespective of this result, I think that this is likely to the the high tide mark for national labor and probably has more to do with international tailwinds than anything else.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:36:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278672
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Have to say this is not a very good day at the office for the polling houses, as the 2pp may be in the realm of 56-44.

It’s not a result they’re accustomed to.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:38:46
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2278673
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Have to say this is not a very good day at the office for the polling houses, as the 2pp may be in the realm of 56-44.

I think the 2pp vote is a pretty hard thing to simulate

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:39:51
From: dv
ID: 2278674
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

sm has been active on FB, she’s okay

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:41:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278675
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


sm has been active on FB, she’s okay

Goodo. She’s been quite distant from the forum lately, but so have I.

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Date: 3/05/2025 22:54:32
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2278677
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Swing to the Labs by state
8.5% in Tas
5.4% in SA
4.2% in NSW
3.5% in Qld
2.8% in Vic
0.4% in WA

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:00:34
From: party_pants
ID: 2278678
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


Swing to the Labs by state
8.5% in Tas
5.4% in SA
4.2% in NSW
3.5% in Qld
2.8% in Vic
0.4% in WA

You have to remember it was the big swing to ALP in WA at the last election that nailed it. There was probably not much of a big swing left to be had since they had it all last time.

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:00:58
From: ruby
ID: 2278679
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Nice to see the teals staying strong.
Also nice to see going corflute crazy will not win the day. Hopefully that craze will die out.

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:01:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278680
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:

Certainly seems as though this will be the worst result in the history of the Liberal party, in terms of seats as a % of total.

yet

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:01:32
From: ruby
ID: 2278681
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Certainly seems as though this will be the worst result in the history of the Liberal party, in terms of seats as a % of total.

yet

Heh heh.

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:03:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278682
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

get on the beers

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:04:12
From: dv
ID: 2278683
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

If we add those 14 in-doubt seats based on who is considered “leading” at the moment (leading in brackets, total after the colon)

ALP 86 (6): 92
Liberal 16 (2): 18
LNP 15 (0): 15
Nat 9 (0): 9
Ind 8 (4): 12
Katter 1 (0): 1
Central Alliance 1 (0):1
Greens 0 (2): 2

To divide the LNP up by who they caucus with, we would have

ALP 92
Liberal 28
Nat 14
Ind 12
Katter 1
Central 1
Greens 2

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:18:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2278684
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Ian said:


Former (suck shit twat) member for Dickson, Peter Dutton, has suffered a devastating loss at the hands of his own rhetoric, as Australians overwhelmingly vote ‘No’ to him.

In a massive surprise to everyone who didn;t watched the campaign, debates, polls, or betting market, Peter Dutton has lost not only the election, but his own seat. Serving as a reminder that no satire is funnier than reality.

The resounding loss for the Liberal Party comes after Australian voters treated this election as a referendum on the crucial issue of Peter Dutton.

To which they overwhelmingly voted: hell fucking no.

LOL

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:18:28
From: dv
ID: 2278685
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:20:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2278686
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Ian said:



:)

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:22:15
From: party_pants
ID: 2278687
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:



I wonder if Sky News will spend the next few days discussing how PD wasn’t leaning right hard enough

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:27:44
From: Michael V
ID: 2278688
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Well, I must say I’m surprised and pleased by the result. I had hoped for a Labor win, but thought that they might not be able to govern outright. To improve so much was unexpected.

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:29:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278689
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


dv said:


I wonder if Sky News will spend the next few days discussing how PD wasn’t leaning right hard enough

“He was too soft on the aborigines. Should have promised to send them back where they came from.”

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:35:31
From: party_pants
ID: 2278691
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Well, I must say I’m surprised and pleased by the result. I had hoped for a Labor win, but thought that they might not be able to govern outright. To improve so much was unexpected.

I was expecting ALP to be returned with just a handful of extra seats. Was not expecting a thumping majority like this.

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:36:00
From: party_pants
ID: 2278692
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

dv said:


I wonder if Sky News will spend the next few days discussing how PD wasn’t leaning right hard enough

“He was too soft on the aborigines. Should have promised to send them back where they came from.”

lol :)

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:42:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2278694
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


In my electorate, Trumpets were first on the green ballot. Looking at the AEC data, they’re getting some votes so I’m thinking people started at the top and numbered down.

Donkey Votes for the win.

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:48:19
From: dv
ID: 2278695
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:50:18
From: kii
ID: 2278696
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Yay! Dutton lost his seat 😆

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Date: 3/05/2025 23:56:29
From: dv
ID: 2278698
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

So who will replace Dutton and more importantly who will replace Antony Green??

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Date: 4/05/2025 00:01:14
From: Michael V
ID: 2278699
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:



:)

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Date: 4/05/2025 00:02:44
From: Michael V
ID: 2278700
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


So who will replace Dutton and more importantly who will replace Antony Green??

It’ll be interesting to see, in both cases.

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Date: 4/05/2025 00:04:51
From: furious
ID: 2278703
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

In my electorate, Trumpets were first on the green ballot. Looking at the AEC data, they’re getting some votes so I’m thinking people started at the top and numbered down.

Donkey Votes for the win.

There were no trumpets on my green ballot, yet some local yokels have signs in their yard promoting the party. I suppose they may have been on the senate one, I didn’t see them but I wasn’t looking for them either, and it’s a big piece of paper…

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Date: 4/05/2025 00:07:18
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2278704
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


dv said:

So who will replace Dutton and more importantly who will replace Antony Green??

It’ll be interesting to see, in both cases.

Casey Briggs will be Antony Green’s replacement on the ABC.

https://www.abc.net.au/about/media-centre/press-releases/new-roles-for-antony-green-and-casey-briggs/104983280

Link

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Date: 4/05/2025 00:07:43
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278705
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


So who will replace Dutton and more importantly who will replace Antony Green??

I thought Casey Briggs was replacing Antony

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Date: 4/05/2025 00:07:50
From: furious
ID: 2278706
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


dv said:

So who will replace Dutton and more importantly who will replace Antony Green??

It’ll be interesting to see, in both cases.

Look out if the LNP manage to find someone with charisma because Double A wins again because, at least he’s not The other guy…

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Date: 4/05/2025 00:09:10
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2278707
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


dv said:

So who will replace Dutton and more importantly who will replace Antony Green??

I thought Casey Briggs was replacing Antony

Yes.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-03/antony-green-gold-standard-abc-election-coverage/105237802

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Date: 4/05/2025 00:14:15
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278709
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Labor’s gained my electorate, despite zero advertising. LNP has sent out text messages, letterbox drops, billboard space (Greens too), appeared at local events like markets etc. Heard absolutely nothing about the incoming Labor candidate.

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Date: 4/05/2025 00:18:43
From: dv
ID: 2278710
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Sure is a shame Clive Palmer sharted $60 million for nothing again.

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Date: 4/05/2025 00:26:18
From: kii
ID: 2278711
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Labor’s gained my electorate, despite zero advertising. LNP has sent out text messages, letterbox drops, billboard space (Greens too), appeared at local events like markets etc. Heard absolutely nothing about the incoming Labor candidate.

That’s amazing. Excellent.

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Date: 4/05/2025 00:38:14
From: kii
ID: 2278712
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 4/05/2025 00:54:21
From: dv
ID: 2278713
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:



Ha

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Date: 4/05/2025 01:06:31
From: dv
ID: 2278714
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 4/05/2025 01:15:27
From: kii
ID: 2278715
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:



He’s such a bastard. Didn’t he walk out on the Sorry speech? I’ll have to go Google.

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Date: 4/05/2025 01:23:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278716
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


dv said:


He’s such a bastard. Didn’t he walk out on the Sorry speech? I’ll have to go Google.

So glad he has been demoted. My faith in Queenslanders has been given a boost.

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Date: 4/05/2025 02:00:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278717
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Woodie said:


Ms Mum has been very quiet tonight.

noted that

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Date: 4/05/2025 02:00:54
From: dv
ID: 2278718
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Ah cool so Labor is pretty much set until 2031

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Date: 4/05/2025 02:01:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278719
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


sm has been active on FB, she’s okay

Good.

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Date: 4/05/2025 02:02:44
From: kii
ID: 2278720
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Ah cool so Labor is pretty much set until 2031

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Date: 4/05/2025 02:03:45
From: party_pants
ID: 2278721
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


dv said:

Ah cool so Labor is pretty much set until 2031


oh, you is cruel :p

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Date: 4/05/2025 02:05:55
From: kii
ID: 2278722
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


kii said:

dv said:

Ah cool so Labor is pretty much set until 2031


oh, you is cruel :p

I’ve been saving that one for a while. Saw it in my files this morning.

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Date: 4/05/2025 02:07:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278723
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Ah cool so Labor is pretty much set until 2031

Nah. I’m stuck with Sussan Ley. Mate and I were having Sat night drinks and I was keeping an eye on the muted tee to see whather there would be a shift in our seat. I said there it is she got nack in and my mate sighed and when I looked at him he simply said, “I don’t like her”.
Something we both agreed on.

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Date: 4/05/2025 02:08:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278724
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:



Australians, Fuck off Dutton.

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Date: 4/05/2025 02:21:44
From: kii
ID: 2278726
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Van Badham sums it up nicely:

Oh, man. Australia, I love you.
The Australian people have returned a Labor government with an historic INCREASED majority.
I want everyone to just sit for a second about what that means.
1) it means that Australians have repudiated Trumpism.
The Liberals praised Trump, described him as a “big thinker” and “a man of action”. They promoted having a DOGE, complained about “woke curricula” in schools, made anti-immigration dog whistles. Photographs appeared of them in Maga hats. One of their most recognisable members pledged to “make Australia great again”. Their biggest backer, Gina Rinehart, and their former leader, Scott Morrison, both attended Trump’s inauguration.
And the electorate hated it. Polls repeatedly warned the Liberals that Australians didn’t like it. But Dutton’s Liberals did like it and so they kept doing it and were smashed. People who had voted Liberal all their lives would not stand for it.
And just as happened in Canada, the Trump-aligned leader of the Liberal Party LOST HIS SEAT.
This means that the cruelty of Trumpism, the illiberalism, the punishment of the different, the rejection of the diverse… this has been REJECTED in Australia. We have chosen the stability of unity and kindness over the chaos of vengeance and egomania. We will be stronger, healthier and richer for it.
There is a saying in American politics that “everything Trump touches dies”. Peter Dutton can now join his comrades in the morgue.
2) the policy positions Labor took to this election were clear. Labor’s platform was to expand Medicare, to fully fund the education of EVERY Australian child and rebuild the public education system after years of neglect. Labor committed to making free TAFE permanent. Labor’s platform has consistently been to build the infrastructure of climate action through investment in renewables and policies of just transition for climate communities. Labor have committed to a massive social and public housing investment. Labor passed a tranche of industrial relations reforms including the “right to disconnect” that the Liberals planned to remove.
All of these have been saved. They have been affirmed. They will be extended. Labor have a mandate. These things are what Australians want.
3) let’s consider what Australians have voted against.
They’ve voted against nuclear power. The reason why we didn’t have it in the first place was because we didn’t want it and we still don’t. We don’t want a risky, expensive, centralised and corporate model of energy generation. It is a non starter of an idea.
We voted against cutting 41,000 public servants. We voted against putting 41,000 Australians out of work. We don’t want to live in an apocalyptic Mad Max hellscape (like cough America) where everyone’s on their own. We value local jobs and we value local services that enable us to expand our social participation and our quality of life. We want to live in Star Trek.
We also voted against the influence of powerful vested interests. Australia’s richest woman – mining heiress Gina Rinehart – was a major backer of Dutton’s and his anti-worker policies. The Murdoch press endorsed Dutton and relentlessly promoted his culture war agenda. The “robes” of the privileged and secretive elite Catholic school lobby were sending letters to parents trying to bully them into supporting Dutton. The even more secretive, misogynistic and plainly weird “Brethren” sect were handing out for him. The Liberals received preferences from the hard right One Nation and the cookers in Clive Palmer’s
Trumpet of Patriots.
By voting Labor into an increased majority, Australians have said they don’t want culture wars, they don’t want their country run by billionaires, they don’t want elitist and unaccountable sects, zealots, fascists or any other weirdoes to determine the shape of our nation.
Turns out, the Australian belief in fairness extends from the workplace to the schoolyard, from the local urgent care clinic to the pub. We don’t want to poison our land, we don’t want to inflict suffering on other Australians and our national pride is strong enough that if you want to be Australian, we will welcome you to come and build opportunities we can share.
It’s an incredible night. This country has everything to look forward to. I’m already looking forward to waking up tomorrow.
To everyone who voted Labor, thank you – and see you in the morning. xx

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Date: 4/05/2025 03:25:35
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2278728
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Van Badham sums it up nicely:

Oh, man. Australia, I love you.
The Australian people have returned a Labor government with an historic INCREASED majority.
I want everyone to just sit for a second about what that means.
1) it means that Australians have repudiated Trumpism.
The Liberals praised Trump, described him as a “big thinker” and “a man of action”. They promoted having a DOGE, complained about “woke curricula” in schools, made anti-immigration dog whistles. Photographs appeared of them in Maga hats. One of their most recognisable members pledged to “make Australia great again”. Their biggest backer, Gina Rinehart, and their former leader, Scott Morrison, both attended Trump’s inauguration.
And the electorate hated it. Polls repeatedly warned the Liberals that Australians didn’t like it. But Dutton’s Liberals did like it and so they kept doing it and were smashed. People who had voted Liberal all their lives would not stand for it.
And just as happened in Canada, the Trump-aligned leader of the Liberal Party LOST HIS SEAT.
This means that the cruelty of Trumpism, the illiberalism, the punishment of the different, the rejection of the diverse… this has been REJECTED in Australia. We have chosen the stability of unity and kindness over the chaos of vengeance and egomania. We will be stronger, healthier and richer for it.
There is a saying in American politics that “everything Trump touches dies”. Peter Dutton can now join his comrades in the morgue.
2) the policy positions Labor took to this election were clear. Labor’s platform was to expand Medicare, to fully fund the education of EVERY Australian child and rebuild the public education system after years of neglect. Labor committed to making free TAFE permanent. Labor’s platform has consistently been to build the infrastructure of climate action through investment in renewables and policies of just transition for climate communities. Labor have committed to a massive social and public housing investment. Labor passed a tranche of industrial relations reforms including the “right to disconnect” that the Liberals planned to remove.
All of these have been saved. They have been affirmed. They will be extended. Labor have a mandate. These things are what Australians want.
3) let’s consider what Australians have voted against.
They’ve voted against nuclear power. The reason why we didn’t have it in the first place was because we didn’t want it and we still don’t. We don’t want a risky, expensive, centralised and corporate model of energy generation. It is a non starter of an idea.
We voted against cutting 41,000 public servants. We voted against putting 41,000 Australians out of work. We don’t want to live in an apocalyptic Mad Max hellscape (like cough America) where everyone’s on their own. We value local jobs and we value local services that enable us to expand our social participation and our quality of life. We want to live in Star Trek.
We also voted against the influence of powerful vested interests. Australia’s richest woman – mining heiress Gina Rinehart – was a major backer of Dutton’s and his anti-worker policies. The Murdoch press endorsed Dutton and relentlessly promoted his culture war agenda. The “robes” of the privileged and secretive elite Catholic school lobby were sending letters to parents trying to bully them into supporting Dutton. The even more secretive, misogynistic and plainly weird “Brethren” sect were handing out for him. The Liberals received preferences from the hard right One Nation and the cookers in Clive Palmer’s
Trumpet of Patriots.
By voting Labor into an increased majority, Australians have said they don’t want culture wars, they don’t want their country run by billionaires, they don’t want elitist and unaccountable sects, zealots, fascists or any other weirdoes to determine the shape of our nation.
Turns out, the Australian belief in fairness extends from the workplace to the schoolyard, from the local urgent care clinic to the pub. We don’t want to poison our land, we don’t want to inflict suffering on other Australians and our national pride is strong enough that if you want to be Australian, we will welcome you to come and build opportunities we can share.
It’s an incredible night. This country has everything to look forward to. I’m already looking forward to waking up tomorrow.
To everyone who voted Labor, thank you – and see you in the morning. xx

Good.

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Date: 4/05/2025 04:02:14
From: kii
ID: 2278731
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

“Trump is so unpopular he’s losing elections in other countries.”

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Date: 4/05/2025 06:54:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278736
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

AussieDJ said:


kii said:

Van Badham sums it up nicely:

Oh, man. Australia, I love you.
The Australian people have returned a Labor government with an historic INCREASED majority.
I want everyone to just sit for a second about what that means.
1) it means that Australians have repudiated Trumpism.
The Liberals praised Trump, described him as a “big thinker” and “a man of action”. They promoted having a DOGE, complained about “woke curricula” in schools, made anti-immigration dog whistles. Photographs appeared of them in Maga hats. One of their most recognisable members pledged to “make Australia great again”. Their biggest backer, Gina Rinehart, and their former leader, Scott Morrison, both attended Trump’s inauguration.
And the electorate hated it. Polls repeatedly warned the Liberals that Australians didn’t like it. But Dutton’s Liberals did like it and so they kept doing it and were smashed. People who had voted Liberal all their lives would not stand for it.
And just as happened in Canada, the Trump-aligned leader of the Liberal Party LOST HIS SEAT.
This means that the cruelty of Trumpism, the illiberalism, the punishment of the different, the rejection of the diverse… this has been REJECTED in Australia. We have chosen the stability of unity and kindness over the chaos of vengeance and egomania. We will be stronger, healthier and richer for it.
There is a saying in American politics that “everything Trump touches dies”. Peter Dutton can now join his comrades in the morgue.
2) the policy positions Labor took to this election were clear. Labor’s platform was to expand Medicare, to fully fund the education of EVERY Australian child and rebuild the public education system after years of neglect. Labor committed to making free TAFE permanent. Labor’s platform has consistently been to build the infrastructure of climate action through investment in renewables and policies of just transition for climate communities. Labor have committed to a massive social and public housing investment. Labor passed a tranche of industrial relations reforms including the “right to disconnect” that the Liberals planned to remove.
All of these have been saved. They have been affirmed. They will be extended. Labor have a mandate. These things are what Australians want.
3) let’s consider what Australians have voted against.
They’ve voted against nuclear power. The reason why we didn’t have it in the first place was because we didn’t want it and we still don’t. We don’t want a risky, expensive, centralised and corporate model of energy generation. It is a non starter of an idea.
We voted against cutting 41,000 public servants. We voted against putting 41,000 Australians out of work. We don’t want to live in an apocalyptic Mad Max hellscape (like cough America) where everyone’s on their own. We value local jobs and we value local services that enable us to expand our social participation and our quality of life. We want to live in Star Trek.
We also voted against the influence of powerful vested interests. Australia’s richest woman – mining heiress Gina Rinehart – was a major backer of Dutton’s and his anti-worker policies. The Murdoch press endorsed Dutton and relentlessly promoted his culture war agenda. The “robes” of the privileged and secretive elite Catholic school lobby were sending letters to parents trying to bully them into supporting Dutton. The even more secretive, misogynistic and plainly weird “Brethren” sect were handing out for him. The Liberals received preferences from the hard right One Nation and the cookers in Clive Palmer’s
Trumpet of Patriots.
By voting Labor into an increased majority, Australians have said they don’t want culture wars, they don’t want their country run by billionaires, they don’t want elitist and unaccountable sects, zealots, fascists or any other weirdoes to determine the shape of our nation.
Turns out, the Australian belief in fairness extends from the workplace to the schoolyard, from the local urgent care clinic to the pub. We don’t want to poison our land, we don’t want to inflict suffering on other Australians and our national pride is strong enough that if you want to be Australian, we will welcome you to come and build opportunities we can share.
It’s an incredible night. This country has everything to look forward to. I’m already looking forward to waking up tomorrow.
To everyone who voted Labor, thank you – and see you in the morning. xx

Good.

+1

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Date: 4/05/2025 06:56:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278738
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


dv said:

sm has been active on FB, she’s okay

Good.

^

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Date: 4/05/2025 06:57:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278740
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Divine Angel said:

Labor’s gained my electorate, despite zero advertising. LNP has sent out text messages, letterbox drops, billboard space (Greens too), appeared at local events like markets etc. Heard absolutely nothing about the incoming Labor candidate.

That’s amazing. Excellent.

this

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Date: 4/05/2025 07:01:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278741
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

AussieDJ said:

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

So who will replace Dutton and more importantly who will replace Antony Green??

I thought Casey Briggs was replacing Antony

Yes.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-03/antony-green-gold-standard-abc-election-coverage/105237802

oh c’m‘on it’s not like they’re

He has never, not once, confused Yeppen and Yeppoon or Albany and Albury.

as similar as Harlem and Harvard sheesh

though seriously we thought he said he was retiring 5 years ago

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Date: 4/05/2025 07:04:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278743
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Yay! Dutton lost his seat 😆

nice

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Date: 4/05/2025 07:05:07
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278744
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

AussieDJ said:

Divine Angel said:

I thought Casey Briggs was replacing Antony

Yes.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-03/antony-green-gold-standard-abc-election-coverage/105237802

oh c’m‘on it’s not like they’re

He has never, not once, confused Yeppen and Yeppoon or Albany and Albury.

as similar as Harlem and Harvard sheesh

though seriously we thought he said he was retiring 5 years ago

Thank you! I thought he did too, “just one more election…”

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Date: 4/05/2025 07:11:01
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278745
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Disappointed to see 13% of my electorate voting for Trumpet, ONP, Family First. Trumpet was top of the ballot though, some people just fill in from top to bottom.

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Date: 4/05/2025 07:27:00
From: Ian
ID: 2278747
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 4/05/2025 07:35:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278748
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

AussieDJ said:

Yes.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-03/antony-green-gold-standard-abc-election-coverage/105237802

oh c’m‘on it’s not like they’re

He has never, not once, confused Yeppen and Yeppoon or Albany and Albury.

as similar as Harlem and Harvard sheesh

though seriously we thought he said he was retiring 5 years ago

Thank you! I thought he did too, “just one more election…”

ah well good to end on a high note

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Date: 4/05/2025 07:37:34
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278749
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

oh c’m‘on it’s not like they’re

He has never, not once, confused Yeppen and Yeppoon or Albany and Albury.

as similar as Harlem and Harvard sheesh

though seriously we thought he said he was retiring 5 years ago

Thank you! I thought he did too, “just one more election…”

ah well good to end on a high note

Despite technology failing.

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Date: 4/05/2025 07:41:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278750
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

Thank you! I thought he did too, “just one more election…”

ah well good to end on a high note

Despite technology failing.

LOL yes a funny story for the ages, when we changed workplaces there were entertaining things like that, ceilings falling in, et cetera.

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Date: 4/05/2025 08:19:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278756
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

apparently the communists are now the party of Kumbaya singing hippies

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-04/election-result-labor-victory-positive-future/105247606

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Date: 4/05/2025 08:22:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278757
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

AussieDJ said:


kii said:

Van Badham sums it up nicely:

Oh, man. Australia, I love you.
..
It’s an incredible night. This country has everything to look forward to. I’m already looking forward to waking up tomorrow.
To everyone who voted Labor, thank you – and see you in the morning. xx

Good.

:) good.

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Date: 4/05/2025 08:34:01
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278758
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Does Albo have to be sworn in again as PM? Officially, Parliament was dissolved, but he’s still PM albeit in caretaker mode.

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Date: 4/05/2025 08:34:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278759
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Other good news is that, (so far, at least, and seemingly likely to stay that way), none of One Nation’s, Trumpet of Patriots’ (what a f***ing stupid name), or Family First’s candidates for House of Reps is going to be elected, although they probably helped to fragment the ‘conservative’ vote.

And, with a comfortable ALP majority, Bob Katter’s single H of R MP can be told to f*** right off for the next three years.

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Date: 4/05/2025 08:35:50
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278760
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

So why are the righties at the ABC saying Bandt has probably lost his seat when he is currently shown as 1.5% ahead?

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Date: 4/05/2025 08:38:45
From: kii
ID: 2278761
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


AussieDJ said:

kii said:

Van Badham sums it up nicely:

Oh, man. Australia, I love you.
..
It’s an incredible night. This country has everything to look forward to. I’m already looking forward to waking up tomorrow.
To everyone who voted Labor, thank you – and see you in the morning. xx

Good.

:) good.

Jaysus fecking christ.

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Date: 4/05/2025 08:39:53
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2278762
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Looks like our Nat turned Ind will retain his seat on preferences. Labor is about as unpopular as ONP in the Styx.

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Date: 4/05/2025 08:45:45
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278763
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

poikilotherm said:


Looks like our Nat turned Ind will retain his seat on preferences. Labor is about as unpopular as ONP in the Styx.


Same here.

However, an independent has done rather well against the Libs in this safe-blue seat, hopefully sending the message to the Libs that the seat is theirs to lose next time around.

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Date: 4/05/2025 08:49:46
From: kii
ID: 2278764
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Why can’t they understand how repulsive they are.
Fuck the patriarchy.

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Date: 4/05/2025 08:50:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278765
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I wonder if Clive Palmer will be able to muster a sufficient number of dimwits, defectives, and fraudsters to keep the Vuvuzela Cats, or some other comic opera ‘party, in existence after this latest debacle?

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Date: 4/05/2025 08:51:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278766
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Why can’t they understand how repulsive they are.
Fuck the patriarchy.

New slogan for Trumpet of Patriots/Vuvuzela Cats: ‘Going nowhere. Going there fast’.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:02:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278767
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

ABC News:

An arsehole’s opinion:

Pete and his family are lucky that they have a thick cushion of money to help soften the effects of that ‘brutal toll this morning’.

As for Labor being ‘…able to tap into issues, like Donald Trump…’; Labor didn’t have to do anything in that regard, with e.g. Liberal party figures happy to publis photos of themselves in MAGA hats, and spouting stuff like ‘Make Australia Great Again’.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:02:55
From: Michael V
ID: 2278768
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:



:)

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:04:27
From: Michael V
ID: 2278769
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


dv said:


He’s such a bastard. Didn’t he walk out on the Sorry speech? I’ll have to go Google.

Yes, IIRC.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:05:21
From: Michael V
ID: 2278770
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


dv said:

Ah cool so Labor is pretty much set until 2031


:)

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:07:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278771
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


kii said:

dv said:

Ah cool so Labor is pretty much set until 2031


:)

I really thought that Angus would prefer to stay in the background, where it’s easier to arrange things like water license buy-baks for personal profit.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:07:21
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278772
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

An arsehole’s opinion:

Pete and his family are lucky that they have a thick cushion of money to help soften the effects of that ‘brutal toll this morning’.

As for Labor being ‘…able to tap into issues, like Donald Trump…’; Labor didn’t have to do anything in that regard, with e.g. Liberal party figures happy to publis photos of themselves in MAGA hats, and spouting stuff like ‘Make Australia Great Again’.

He’ll save money on prime retail space in Strathpine now that he doesn’t need an office. Maybe Ali France will move from her dingy space into the spacious le Dutton office.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:07:47
From: kii
ID: 2278773
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


kii said:

dv said:


He’s such a bastard. Didn’t he walk out on the Sorry speech? I’ll have to go Google.

Yes, IIRC.

Without Googling, maybe it was Abbott and another guy who literally ran out, Dutton just didn’t attend.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:09:11
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278774
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

First preference count is almost even in Petrie.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/guide/petr

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:10:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278775
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

An arsehole’s opinion:

Pete and his family are lucky that they have a thick cushion of money to help soften the effects of that ‘brutal toll this morning’.

As for Labor being ‘…able to tap into issues, like Donald Trump…’; Labor didn’t have to do anything in that regard, with e.g. Liberal party figures happy to publis photos of themselves in MAGA hats, and spouting stuff like ‘Make Australia Great Again’.

He’ll save money on prime retail space in Strathpine now that he doesn’t need an office. Maybe Ali France will move from her dingy space into the spacious le Dutton office.

now he doesn’t even have to work from home

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:10:59
From: Tamb
ID: 2278776
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Why can’t they understand how repulsive they are.
Fuck the patriarchy.

If that’s how bad they are as losers, imagine how bad they’d be as winners.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:11:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278777
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Sussan Ley: a long shot.

The Liberals aren’t into that ‘equality’ thing, associate female leadership with Gillard, and have probably been put off the idea of a woman as leader by the example of how Kamala Harris couldn’t beat a candidate who’d already demonstrated that he’s probably the worst person ever to be considered for election since one chap back in early 1930s Europe.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:15:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278778
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


I wonder if Clive Palmer will be able to muster a sufficient number of dimwits, defectives, and fraudsters to keep the Vuvuzela Cats, or some other comic opera ‘party, in existence after this latest debacle?

76 trombones.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:16:39
From: Michael V
ID: 2278779
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Van Badham sums it up nicely:

Oh, man. Australia, I love you.
The Australian people have returned a Labor government with an historic INCREASED majority.
I want everyone to just sit for a second about what that means.
1) it means that Australians have repudiated Trumpism.
The Liberals praised Trump, described him as a “big thinker” and “a man of action”. They promoted having a DOGE, complained about “woke curricula” in schools, made anti-immigration dog whistles. Photographs appeared of them in Maga hats. One of their most recognisable members pledged to “make Australia great again”. Their biggest backer, Gina Rinehart, and their former leader, Scott Morrison, both attended Trump’s inauguration.
And the electorate hated it. Polls repeatedly warned the Liberals that Australians didn’t like it. But Dutton’s Liberals did like it and so they kept doing it and were smashed. People who had voted Liberal all their lives would not stand for it.
And just as happened in Canada, the Trump-aligned leader of the Liberal Party LOST HIS SEAT.
This means that the cruelty of Trumpism, the illiberalism, the punishment of the different, the rejection of the diverse… this has been REJECTED in Australia. We have chosen the stability of unity and kindness over the chaos of vengeance and egomania. We will be stronger, healthier and richer for it.
There is a saying in American politics that “everything Trump touches dies”. Peter Dutton can now join his comrades in the morgue.
2) the policy positions Labor took to this election were clear. Labor’s platform was to expand Medicare, to fully fund the education of EVERY Australian child and rebuild the public education system after years of neglect. Labor committed to making free TAFE permanent. Labor’s platform has consistently been to build the infrastructure of climate action through investment in renewables and policies of just transition for climate communities. Labor have committed to a massive social and public housing investment. Labor passed a tranche of industrial relations reforms including the “right to disconnect” that the Liberals planned to remove.
All of these have been saved. They have been affirmed. They will be extended. Labor have a mandate. These things are what Australians want.
3) let’s consider what Australians have voted against.
They’ve voted against nuclear power. The reason why we didn’t have it in the first place was because we didn’t want it and we still don’t. We don’t want a risky, expensive, centralised and corporate model of energy generation. It is a non starter of an idea.
We voted against cutting 41,000 public servants. We voted against putting 41,000 Australians out of work. We don’t want to live in an apocalyptic Mad Max hellscape (like cough America) where everyone’s on their own. We value local jobs and we value local services that enable us to expand our social participation and our quality of life. We want to live in Star Trek.
We also voted against the influence of powerful vested interests. Australia’s richest woman – mining heiress Gina Rinehart – was a major backer of Dutton’s and his anti-worker policies. The Murdoch press endorsed Dutton and relentlessly promoted his culture war agenda. The “robes” of the privileged and secretive elite Catholic school lobby were sending letters to parents trying to bully them into supporting Dutton. The even more secretive, misogynistic and plainly weird “Brethren” sect were handing out for him. The Liberals received preferences from the hard right One Nation and the cookers in Clive Palmer’s
Trumpet of Patriots.
By voting Labor into an increased majority, Australians have said they don’t want culture wars, they don’t want their country run by billionaires, they don’t want elitist and unaccountable sects, zealots, fascists or any other weirdoes to determine the shape of our nation.
Turns out, the Australian belief in fairness extends from the workplace to the schoolyard, from the local urgent care clinic to the pub. We don’t want to poison our land, we don’t want to inflict suffering on other Australians and our national pride is strong enough that if you want to be Australian, we will welcome you to come and build opportunities we can share.
It’s an incredible night. This country has everything to look forward to. I’m already looking forward to waking up tomorrow.
To everyone who voted Labor, thank you – and see you in the morning. xx

Awww.

Kindness. It’s what we want from both individuals and government.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:17:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278780
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Sussan Ley: a long shot.

The Liberals aren’t into that ‘equality’ thing, associate female leadership with Gillard, and have probably been put off the idea of a woman as leader by the example of how Kamala Harris couldn’t beat a candidate who’d already demonstrated that he’s probably the worst person ever to be considered for election since one chap back in early 1930s Europe.

Heaven forbid they ever make her the dear leader.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:18:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278781
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:

Kindness. It’s what we want from both individuals and government.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:19:05
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2278782
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Very good to see the neo-fascist LNP get utterly spanked. I’m hoping that Dutton stays in the top LNP job as as long as possible as he’s possibly the most effective thing in stopping them getting elected again.
The lesser evil has a vast majority though I was hoping for a minority ALP government with a progressive & intelligent moderating party/Independent keeping them in check.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:20:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2278784
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:

“Trump is so unpopular he’s losing elections in other countries.”

:)

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:27:55
From: Tamb
ID: 2278787
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


kii said:

“Trump is so unpopular he’s losing elections in other countries.”

:)


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Date: 4/05/2025 09:29:27
From: Michael V
ID: 2278788
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Ian said:



:)

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:31:30
From: Michael V
ID: 2278789
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Does Albo have to be sworn in again as PM? Officially, Parliament was dissolved, but he’s still PM albeit in caretaker mode.

Yes.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:31:50
From: Tamb
ID: 2278790
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Ian said:


:)


I wanted nuclear but didn’t want Dutton. I’m half way there.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:34:34
From: Michael V
ID: 2278791
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Why can’t they understand how repulsive they are.
Fuck the patriarchy.

Palmer et al.

(Vomits.)

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:36:37
From: Michael V
ID: 2278792
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


I wonder if Clive Palmer will be able to muster a sufficient number of dimwits, defectives, and fraudsters to keep the Vuvuzela Cats, or some other comic opera ‘party, in existence after this latest debacle?

I guess so. I mean he tried to buy out the QLD LNP and they expelled him. He’s been doing this ever since that incident.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:38:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2278793
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

kii said:


:)

I really thought that Angus would prefer to stay in the background, where it’s easier to arrange things like water license buy-baks for personal profit.

Ha!

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:40:49
From: Michael V
ID: 2278794
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

An arsehole’s opinion:

Pete and his family are lucky that they have a thick cushion of money to help soften the effects of that ‘brutal toll this morning’.

As for Labor being ‘…able to tap into issues, like Donald Trump…’; Labor didn’t have to do anything in that regard, with e.g. Liberal party figures happy to publis photos of themselves in MAGA hats, and spouting stuff like ‘Make Australia Great Again’.

He’ll save money on prime retail space in Strathpine now that he doesn’t need an office. Maybe Ali France will move from her dingy space into the spacious le Dutton office.

I doubt Dutton pays for that office. I mean, surely it’s claimed back as a “ Reasonable Electoral Expense”.

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Date: 4/05/2025 09:43:01
From: Tamb
ID: 2278795
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

:)

I really thought that Angus would prefer to stay in the background, where it’s easier to arrange things like water license buy-baks for personal profit.

Ha!


Here in Kennedy the house of reps is if no interest. Bob Katter always wins.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:01:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278804
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


Very good to see the neo-fascist LNP get utterly spanked. I’m hoping that Dutton stays in the top LNP job as as long as possible as he’s possibly the most effective thing in stopping them getting elected again.
The lesser evil has a vast majority though I was hoping for a minority ALP government with a progressive & intelligent moderating party/Independent keeping them in check.

Can’t win them all apparently. Maybe next election.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:12:14
From: Tamb
ID: 2278807
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Spiny Norman said:

Very good to see the neo-fascist LNP get utterly spanked. I’m hoping that Dutton stays in the top LNP job as as long as possible as he’s possibly the most effective thing in stopping them getting elected again.
The lesser evil has a vast majority though I was hoping for a minority ALP government with a progressive & intelligent moderating party/Independent keeping them in check.

Can’t win them all apparently. Maybe next election.


Mr D lost his seat.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:19:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278808
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

Very good to see the neo-fascist LNP get utterly spanked. I’m hoping that Dutton stays in the top LNP job as as long as possible as he’s possibly the most effective thing in stopping them getting elected again.
The lesser evil has a vast majority though I was hoping for a minority ALP government with a progressive & intelligent moderating party/Independent keeping them in check.

Can’t win them all apparently. Maybe next election.


Mr D lost his seat.

To me that is the best part of the whole thing.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:22:01
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278809
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Can’t win them all apparently. Maybe next election.


Mr D lost his seat.

To me that is the best part of the whole thing.

Sure is.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:25:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278810
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Mr D lost his seat.

To me that is the best part of the whole thing.

Sure is.

I really do hope that even the police don’t want him back. Surely he’s siphoned enough money into his bank to be able to be a rich arsehole for the rest of his existence but I’m sure he’ll be joining prject 2025 or something even more evil.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:27:36
From: Tamb
ID: 2278812
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Mr D lost his seat.

To me that is the best part of the whole thing.

Sure is.


I watched the ABC until the result was almost certain.
The ABC electronics were deplorable & I felt sorry for Antony Green. I want my 4 cents refunded.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:35:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278813
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tamb said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

To me that is the best part of the whole thing.

Sure is.


I watched the ABC until the result was almost certain.
The ABC electronics were deplorable & I felt sorry for Antony Green. I want my 4 cents refunded.

and on his last appearance. One could be forgiven for thinking that the ABC should have made it a better send off.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:37:33
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278815
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tamb said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

To me that is the best part of the whole thing.

Sure is.


I watched the ABC until the result was almost certain.
The ABC electronics were deplorable & I felt sorry for Antony Green. I want my 4 cents refunded.

and rounded up to 5 cents.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:41:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278816
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:

Tamb said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Sure is.

I watched the ABC until the result was almost certain.
The ABC electronics were deplorable & I felt sorry for Antony Green. I want my 4 cents refunded.

and rounded up to 5 cents.

we thought they were just going for the retro look to bring back memories of how it was like when he first started, quite the beautiful gesture really

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:43:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278817
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


Very good to see the neo-fascist LNP get utterly spanked. I’m hoping that Dutton stays in the top LNP job as as long as possible as he’s possibly the most effective thing in stopping them getting elected again.
The lesser evil has a vast majority though I was hoping for a minority ALP government with a progressive & intelligent moderating party/Independent keeping them in check.

When a progressive and intelligent moderating party arrives on the scene, please let us know.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:46:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278818
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Mr D lost his seat.

To me that is the best part of the whole thing.

Sure is.

so he’s up there with the best like Howard and all the other bests

poor Green he’ll have to update his list now

https://antonygreen.com.au/the-gurgle-hole-of-history-leaders-whove-lost-their-seats-at-elections/

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:47:32
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2278819
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

Very good to see the neo-fascist LNP get utterly spanked. I’m hoping that Dutton stays in the top LNP job as as long as possible as he’s possibly the most effective thing in stopping them getting elected again.
The lesser evil has a vast majority though I was hoping for a minority ALP government with a progressive & intelligent moderating party/Independent keeping them in check.

When a progressive and intelligent moderating party arrives on the scene, please let us know.

They do exist, but the media pays them little attention so they aren’t well known.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:48:15
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2278820
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Unconfirmed if legit, but we all know he is stupid enough to do that again.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:54:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278821
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

To me that is the best part of the whole thing.

Sure is.

I really do hope that even the police don’t want him back. Surely he’s siphoned enough money into his bank to be able to be a rich arsehole for the rest of his existence but I’m sure he’ll be joining prject 2025 or something even more evil.

I don’t think that he will.

He’s the sort of person who’ll go along with whatever agenda suits his purposes at the time. Right now, it seemed to be some form of Trumpism, or at least that’s what the L/NP whizz-kid ‘strategists’‘ were telling him.

If it was going to get him into Kirribilli House (his preferred accommodation), then, OK, he’d let the quasi-Trumpists have their way, but now that it’s all over and done with, i suggest that he’ll be glad to be done with it all, and with the bunch of wackers he’s had to deal with for some years.

Now, he can secure seats on a few boards of directors, picking up nice pay packets for nothing more than some routine chats in comfortable rooms, followed by excellent lunches at company expense.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:56:21
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2278822
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


Unconfirmed if legit, but we all know he is stupid enough to do that again.

LOL. I think the ‘smart and handsome’ part indicates it’s just satire.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:56:45
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278823
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


Spiny Norman said:

Unconfirmed if legit, but we all know he is stupid enough to do that again.

LOL. I think the ‘smart and handsome’ part indicates it’s just satire.

Angus wouldn’t see it that way.

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Date: 4/05/2025 10:57:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278824
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Spiny Norman said:

Unconfirmed if legit, but we all know he is stupid enough to do that again.

LOL. I think the ‘smart and handsome’ part indicates it’s just satire.

Angus wouldn’t see it that way.

oh c’m‘on everyone knows that Corruption have no sense of humour

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:06:32
From: buffy
ID: 2278825
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Sure is.

I really do hope that even the police don’t want him back. Surely he’s siphoned enough money into his bank to be able to be a rich arsehole for the rest of his existence but I’m sure he’ll be joining prject 2025 or something even more evil.

I don’t think that he will.

He’s the sort of person who’ll go along with whatever agenda suits his purposes at the time. Right now, it seemed to be some form of Trumpism, or at least that’s what the L/NP whizz-kid ‘strategists’‘ were telling him.

If it was going to get him into Kirribilli House (his preferred accommodation), then, OK, he’d let the quasi-Trumpists have their way, but now that it’s all over and done with, i suggest that he’ll be glad to be done with it all, and with the bunch of wackers he’s had to deal with for some years.

Now, he can secure seats on a few boards of directors, picking up nice pay packets for nothing more than some routine chats in comfortable rooms, followed by excellent lunches at company expense.

He will get a handsome parliamentary pension.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:06:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278826
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

LOL at the post mortems as they say though

Keith Wolahan has been asked what the Coalition is specifically getting wrong that’s hurting its election chances. He says he’s going to leave that for the post-election review but urges the party to “dig deep” and “think about who we are and who we fight for and who makes up Australia”.

deity damn next thing you’re going to hear shit like “what happened what did the fascist party get wrong” and all kinds

disclaimer yes we know that despite this reassuring result the world is not ready to flush fascism yet, 200000000 raving supporters of that cult are still partying away in some shithole country for one

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:11:43
From: kii
ID: 2278827
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


Spiny Norman said:

Unconfirmed if legit, but we all know he is stupid enough to do that again.

LOL. I think the ‘smart and handsome’ part indicates it’s just satire.

It’s a play on this:

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:16:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278828
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Very good to see the neo-fascist LNP get utterly spanked. I’m hoping that Dutton stays in the top LNP job as as long as possible as he’s possibly the most effective thing in stopping them getting elected again.
The lesser evil has a vast majority though I was hoping for a minority ALP government with a progressive & intelligent moderating party/Independent keeping them in check.

When a progressive and intelligent moderating party arrives on the scene, please let us know.

They do exist, but the media pays them little attention so they aren’t well known.

Sad but true.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:17:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278829
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Sure is.

I really do hope that even the police don’t want him back. Surely he’s siphoned enough money into his bank to be able to be a rich arsehole for the rest of his existence but I’m sure he’ll be joining prject 2025 or something even more evil.

I don’t think that he will.

He’s the sort of person who’ll go along with whatever agenda suits his purposes at the time. Right now, it seemed to be some form of Trumpism, or at least that’s what the L/NP whizz-kid ‘strategists’‘ were telling him.

If it was going to get him into Kirribilli House (his preferred accommodation), then, OK, he’d let the quasi-Trumpists have their way, but now that it’s all over and done with, i suggest that he’ll be glad to be done with it all, and with the bunch of wackers he’s had to deal with for some years.

Now, he can secure seats on a few boards of directors, picking up nice pay packets for nothing more than some routine chats in comfortable rooms, followed by excellent lunches at company expense.

It is the way it has been done for centuries.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:18:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278830
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

I really do hope that even the police don’t want him back. Surely he’s siphoned enough money into his bank to be able to be a rich arsehole for the rest of his existence but I’m sure he’ll be joining prject 2025 or something even more evil.

I don’t think that he will.

He’s the sort of person who’ll go along with whatever agenda suits his purposes at the time. Right now, it seemed to be some form of Trumpism, or at least that’s what the L/NP whizz-kid ‘strategists’‘ were telling him.

If it was going to get him into Kirribilli House (his preferred accommodation), then, OK, he’d let the quasi-Trumpists have their way, but now that it’s all over and done with, i suggest that he’ll be glad to be done with it all, and with the bunch of wackers he’s had to deal with for some years.

Now, he can secure seats on a few boards of directors, picking up nice pay packets for nothing more than some routine chats in comfortable rooms, followed by excellent lunches at company expense.

He will get a handsome parliamentary pension.

That’s what they are all aiming for in the long run.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:28:46
From: Michael V
ID: 2278831
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


Unconfirmed if legit, but we all know he is stupid enough to do that again.

Gourd…

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:28:58
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278832
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

I really do hope that even the police don’t want him back. Surely he’s siphoned enough money into his bank to be able to be a rich arsehole for the rest of his existence but I’m sure he’ll be joining prject 2025 or something even more evil.

I don’t think that he will.

He’s the sort of person who’ll go along with whatever agenda suits his purposes at the time. Right now, it seemed to be some form of Trumpism, or at least that’s what the L/NP whizz-kid ‘strategists’‘ were telling him.

If it was going to get him into Kirribilli House (his preferred accommodation), then, OK, he’d let the quasi-Trumpists have their way, but now that it’s all over and done with, i suggest that he’ll be glad to be done with it all, and with the bunch of wackers he’s had to deal with for some years.

Now, he can secure seats on a few boards of directors, picking up nice pay packets for nothing more than some routine chats in comfortable rooms, followed by excellent lunches at company expense.

He will get a handsome parliamentary pension.

…with the excellent fringe benefits.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:30:19
From: Michael V
ID: 2278833
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Sure is.

I really do hope that even the police don’t want him back. Surely he’s siphoned enough money into his bank to be able to be a rich arsehole for the rest of his existence but I’m sure he’ll be joining prject 2025 or something even more evil.

I don’t think that he will.

He’s the sort of person who’ll go along with whatever agenda suits his purposes at the time. Right now, it seemed to be some form of Trumpism, or at least that’s what the L/NP whizz-kid ‘strategists’‘ were telling him.

If it was going to get him into Kirribilli House (his preferred accommodation), then, OK, he’d let the quasi-Trumpists have their way, but now that it’s all over and done with, i suggest that he’ll be glad to be done with it all, and with the bunch of wackers he’s had to deal with for some years.

Now, he can secure seats on a few boards of directors, picking up nice pay packets for nothing more than some routine chats in comfortable rooms, followed by excellent lunches at company expense.

Sounds like a plan.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:32:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278834
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:36:39
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278835
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

I really do hope that even the police don’t want him back. Surely he’s siphoned enough money into his bank to be able to be a rich arsehole for the rest of his existence but I’m sure he’ll be joining prject 2025 or something even more evil.

I don’t think that he will.

He’s the sort of person who’ll go along with whatever agenda suits his purposes at the time. Right now, it seemed to be some form of Trumpism, or at least that’s what the L/NP whizz-kid ‘strategists’‘ were telling him.

If it was going to get him into Kirribilli House (his preferred accommodation), then, OK, he’d let the quasi-Trumpists have their way, but now that it’s all over and done with, i suggest that he’ll be glad to be done with it all, and with the bunch of wackers he’s had to deal with for some years.

Now, he can secure seats on a few boards of directors, picking up nice pay packets for nothing more than some routine chats in comfortable rooms, followed by excellent lunches at company expense.

It is the way it has been done for centuries.

ScoMo had to leave Australia for other shores, where they don’t seem to be quite as aware of what a total f***-up he is, to find employment.

And, he’s basically in middle-management. No seat on anyone’s board available to him.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:37:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278836
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Spiny Norman said:

Unconfirmed if legit, but we all know he is stupid enough to do that again.

LOL. I think the ‘smart and handsome’ part indicates it’s just satire.

It’s a play on this:


no way

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:40:29
From: party_pants
ID: 2278837
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Well, I hope this time the conservatives have a proper review and come to the conclusion that people don’t like their policies. it is not the delivery or the personalities involved, it is not the campaign, but the message itself. People don’t trust the neoconservative agenda of deregulation and privatisation, cutting services and sacking thousands of public servants. Then outsourcing the same work to their buddies on lucrative contracts. People hate this. They want the government to provide regulation and a decent level of services. The neocon ideological economic theory stuff just isn’t convincing anymore.

For the ALP. I hope they take the chance beginning in the first year of their term to do some major tax reforms.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:42:40
From: Michael V
ID: 2278838
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

My take: Dutton lost his seat.

The LNP/Lib review will likely largely blame Dutton, without actually grappling with the root cause of their losses – unkindness – which many of their MPs will likely continue to espouse.

Over all, that may keep them in the wilderness for a while longer until they figure out how to include decency and kindness into the party’s view of the world.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:44:08
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278839
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Well, I hope this time the conservatives have a proper review and come to the conclusion that people don’t like their policies. it is not the delivery or the personalities involved, it is not the campaign, but the message itself. People don’t trust the neoconservative agenda of deregulation and privatisation, cutting services and sacking thousands of public servants. Then outsourcing the same work to their buddies on lucrative contracts. People hate this. They want the government to provide regulation and a decent level of services. The neocon ideological economic theory stuff just isn’t convincing anymore.

For the ALP. I hope they take the chance beginning in the first year of their term to do some major tax reforms.

You mean, the Australian electorate, after only 124 years, might finally be waking up to the idea that voting for the ‘conservative’ coalition, in the incarnation that it’s had for so very long, is not of any benefit to the average Australian, or, indeed, to the vast majority of Australians?

What times we live in.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:46:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278840
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


My take: Dutton lost his seat.

The LNP/Lib review will likely largely blame Dutton, without actually grappling with the root cause of their losses – unkindness – which many of their MPs will likely continue to espouse.

Over all, that may keep them in the wilderness for a while longer until they figure out how to include decency and kindness into the party’s view of the world.

Let us hope they get around to coming up with some real policies and actually begin to function as a competent opposition.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:46:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278841
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL at the post mortems as they say though

Keith Wolahan has been asked what the Coalition is specifically getting wrong that’s hurting its election chances. He says he’s going to leave that for the post-election review but urges the party to “dig deep” and “think about who we are and who we fight for and who makes up Australia”.

deity damn next thing you’re going to hear shit like “what happened what did the fascist party get wrong” and all kinds

disclaimer yes we know that despite this reassuring result the world is not ready to flush fascism yet, 200000000 raving supporters of that cult are still partying away in some shithole country for one

Well, I hope this time the conservatives have a proper review and come to the conclusion that people don’t like their policies. it is not the delivery or the personalities involved, it is not the campaign, but the message itself. People don’t trust the neoconservative agenda of deregulation and privatisation, cutting services and sacking thousands of public servants. Then outsourcing the same work to their buddies on lucrative contracts. People hate this. They want the government to provide regulation and a decent level of services. The neocon ideological economic theory stuff just isn’t convincing anymore.

For the ALP. I hope they take the chance beginning in the first year of their term to do some major tax reforms.

My take: Dutton lost his seat.

The LNP/Lib review will likely largely blame Dutton, without actually grappling with the root cause of their losses – unkindness – which many of their MPs will likely continue to espouse.

Over all, that may keep them in the wilderness for a while longer until they figure out how to include decency and kindness into the party’s view of the world.

You mean, the Australian electorate, after only 124 years, might finally be waking up to the idea that voting for the ‘conservative’ coalition, in the incarnation that it’s had for so very long, is not of any benefit to the average Australian, or, indeed, to the vast majority of Australians?

What times we live in.

right so we’re all agreed then that after almost 100 years it appears there’s some hope that at least in some corners of the world or even hemispheres the human society has developed to a point where antiantifa ideas are rejected comprehensively

we’re in

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:47:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2278842
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Well, I hope this time the conservatives have a proper review and come to the conclusion that people don’t like their policies. it is not the delivery or the personalities involved, it is not the campaign, but the message itself. People don’t trust the neoconservative agenda of deregulation and privatisation, cutting services and sacking thousands of public servants. Then outsourcing the same work to their buddies on lucrative contracts. People hate this. They want the government to provide regulation and a decent level of services. The neocon ideological economic theory stuff just isn’t convincing anymore.

For the ALP. I hope they take the chance beginning in the first year of their term to do some major tax reforms.

Yes. Part of the job of government is to keep the Robber Barons at bay. Regulation is good. Services are good.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:47:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278843
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I hope that Angus gets to be leader.

It’s not often that you get a politician who, himself, provides, ahead of time, a suitable sarcastic remark which can haunt him throughout the rest of his career.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:48:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278844
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

Well, I hope this time the conservatives have a proper review and come to the conclusion that people don’t like their policies. it is not the delivery or the personalities involved, it is not the campaign, but the message itself. People don’t trust the neoconservative agenda of deregulation and privatisation, cutting services and sacking thousands of public servants. Then outsourcing the same work to their buddies on lucrative contracts. People hate this. They want the government to provide regulation and a decent level of services. The neocon ideological economic theory stuff just isn’t convincing anymore.

For the ALP. I hope they take the chance beginning in the first year of their term to do some major tax reforms.

You mean, the Australian electorate, after only 124 years, might finally be waking up to the idea that voting for the ‘conservative’ coalition, in the incarnation that it’s had for so very long, is not of any benefit to the average Australian, or, indeed, to the vast majority of Australians?

What times we live in.

The Liberal Party was founded in 1944 as the successor to the United Australia Party.

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:48:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2278845
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

My take: Dutton lost his seat.

The LNP/Lib review will likely largely blame Dutton, without actually grappling with the root cause of their losses – unkindness – which many of their MPs will likely continue to espouse.

Over all, that may keep them in the wilderness for a while longer until they figure out how to include decency and kindness into the party’s view of the world.

You mean, the Australian electorate, after only 124 years, might finally be waking up to the idea that voting for the ‘conservative’ coalition, in the incarnation that it’s had for so very long, is not of any benefit to the average Australian, or, indeed, to the vast majority of Australians?

What times we live in.

right so we’re all agreed then that after almost 100 years it appears there’s some hope that at least in some corners of the world or even hemispheres the human society has developed to a point where antiantifa ideas are rejected comprehensively

we’re in

Double negative?

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Date: 4/05/2025 11:58:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2278848
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

How did Mr Potato head expect to win with no personality?

I mean you have to have some personality.

He has none.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:03:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278850
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tau.Neutrino said:

How did Mr Potato head expect to win with no personality?

I mean you have to have some personality.

He has none.

If he had one he wasn’t sharing it with us.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:08:16
From: party_pants
ID: 2278851
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


My take: Dutton lost his seat.

The LNP/Lib review will likely largely blame Dutton, without actually grappling with the root cause of their losses – unkindness – which many of their MPs will likely continue to espouse.

Over all, that may keep them in the wilderness for a while longer until they figure out how to include decency and kindness into the party’s view of the world.

+1. Well said.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:09:33
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2278852
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

How did Mr Potato head expect to win with no personality?

I mean you have to have some personality.

He has none.

If he had one he wasn’t sharing it with us.

First opposition leader to lose his seat.

Mr Potato head can hang that up on his wall.

Congrats to Ali France.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:10:54
From: party_pants
ID: 2278853
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

How did Mr Potato head expect to win with no personality?

I mean you have to have some personality.

He has none.

If he had one he wasn’t sharing it with us.

First opposition leader to lose his seat.

Mr Potato head can hang that up on his wall.

Congrats to Ali France.

I don’t think it is down to personality. I mean Albo’s a cringeworthy dag too.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:11:08
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2278854
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

My take: Dutton lost his seat.

The LNP/Lib review will likely largely blame Dutton, without actually grappling with the root cause of their losses – unkindness – which many of their MPs will likely continue to espouse.

Over all, that may keep them in the wilderness for a while longer until they figure out how to include decency and kindness into the party’s view of the world.

+1. Well said.

+2.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:11:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278855
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

If he had one he wasn’t sharing it with us.

First opposition leader to lose his seat.

Mr Potato head can hang that up on his wall.

Congrats to Ali France.

I don’t think it is down to personality. I mean Albo’s a cringeworthy dag too.

But he had policies and tried to show workings.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:12:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278856
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

My take: Dutton lost his seat.

The LNP/Lib review will likely largely blame Dutton, without actually grappling with the root cause of their losses – unkindness – which many of their MPs will likely continue to espouse.

Over all, that may keep them in the wilderness for a while longer until they figure out how to include decency and kindness into the party’s view of the world.

+1. Well said.

+2.

+3

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:14:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2278858
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

If he had one he wasn’t sharing it with us.

First opposition leader to lose his seat.

Mr Potato head can hang that up on his wall.

Congrats to Ali France.

I don’t think it is down to personality. I mean Albo’s a cringeworthy dag too.

Once you train a police officer, it’s down hill for their personality.

Maybe they can re-employ him has a doorman.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:14:50
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278859
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

+1. Well said.

+2.

+3

good

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:17:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278861
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

I don’t think that he will.

He’s the sort of person who’ll go along with whatever agenda suits his purposes at the time. Right now, it seemed to be some form of Trumpism, or at least that’s what the L/NP whizz-kid ‘strategists’‘ were telling him.

If it was going to get him into Kirribilli House (his preferred accommodation), then, OK, he’d let the quasi-Trumpists have their way, but now that it’s all over and done with, i suggest that he’ll be glad to be done with it all, and with the bunch of wackers he’s had to deal with for some years.

Now, he can secure seats on a few boards of directors, picking up nice pay packets for nothing more than some routine chats in comfortable rooms, followed by excellent lunches at company expense.

He will get a handsome parliamentary pension.

…with the excellent fringe benefits.

Since he has 10’s of millions of assets in Family trusts, I shouldn’t think he cares that much one way or the other about the little pension.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:18:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278862
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

He will get a handsome parliamentary pension.

…with the excellent fringe benefits.

Since he has 10’s of millions of assets in Family trusts, I shouldn’t think he cares that much one way or the other about the little pension.

but he’ll take it anyway.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:19:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278863
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

…with the excellent fringe benefits.

Since he has 10’s of millions of assets in Family trusts, I shouldn’t think he cares that much one way or the other about the little pension.

but he’ll take it anyway.

Petty cash is always handy.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:24:11
From: Tamb
ID: 2278866
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

First opposition leader to lose his seat.

Mr Potato head can hang that up on his wall.

Congrats to Ali France.

I don’t think it is down to personality. I mean Albo’s a cringeworthy dag too.

But he had policies and tried to show workings.


Yes. He learned from the Voice debacle but Dutton didn’t.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:24:30
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278867
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Passed a digital billboard with ex-member Luke Howarth on it. I suppose I’ll see him working at the local Maccas soon.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:24:37
From: buffy
ID: 2278868
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

If he had one he wasn’t sharing it with us.

First opposition leader to lose his seat.

Mr Potato head can hang that up on his wall.

Congrats to Ali France.

I don’t think it is down to personality. I mean Albo’s a cringeworthy dag too.

He does come across as human though.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:25:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278870
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

First opposition leader to lose his seat.

Mr Potato head can hang that up on his wall.

Congrats to Ali France.

I don’t think it is down to personality. I mean Albo’s a cringeworthy dag too.

He does come across as human though.

That’s his one good point above dag part.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:26:02
From: Tamb
ID: 2278871
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

First opposition leader to lose his seat.

Mr Potato head can hang that up on his wall.

Congrats to Ali France.

I don’t think it is down to personality. I mean Albo’s a cringeworthy dag too.

Once you train a police officer, it’s down hill for their personality.

Maybe they can re-employ him has a doorman.


Nah. That’s reserved for those tiny Tongans.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:28:23
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2278874
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Since Mr Potato Head has lost his seat, he can now be a doorman.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:30:02
From: buffy
ID: 2278875
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

party_pants said:

I don’t think it is down to personality. I mean Albo’s a cringeworthy dag too.

He does come across as human though.

That’s his one good point above dag part.

he has many good points. You don’t have to be a “personality” to get your job done. You have to be competent.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:30:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2278876
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

I don’t think it is down to personality. I mean Albo’s a cringeworthy dag too.

Once you train a police officer, it’s down hill for their personality.

Maybe they can re-employ him has a doorman.


Nah. That’s reserved for those tiny Tongans.

With no personality being a doorman should suit him.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:30:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278877
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tau.Neutrino said:


Since Mr Potato Head has lost his seat, he can now be a doorman.

Well for a start, he’ll have to stand. Not having a seat.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:31:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278878
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

He does come across as human though.

That’s his one good point above dag part.

he has many good points. You don’t have to be a “personality” to get your job done. You have to be competent.

Yes Agree. I was talking about the personality part.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:35:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278880
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

haven’t yous lot grown potatoes before, everyone knows they don’t stop reemerging every season

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:37:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278881
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Since he has 10’s of millions of assets in Family trusts, I shouldn’t think he cares that much one way or the other about the little pension.

but he’ll take it anyway.

Petty cash is always handy.

to do the laundry with

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:38:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278882
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

If he had one he wasn’t sharing it with us.

First opposition leader to lose his seat.

Mr Potato head can hang that up on his wall.

Congrats to Ali France.

I don’t think it is down to personality. I mean Albo’s a cringeworthy dag too.

^

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:40:31
From: buffy
ID: 2278883
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Our independent candidate had a +13.6% swing…didn’t unseat Dan Tehan.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/guide/wann

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:40:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278884
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

You mean, the Australian electorate, after only 124 years, might finally be waking up to the idea that voting for the ‘conservative’ coalition, in the incarnation that it’s had for so very long, is not of any benefit to the average Australian, or, indeed, to the vast majority of Australians?

What times we live in.

right so we’re all agreed then that after almost 100 years it appears there’s some hope that at least in some corners of the world or even hemispheres the human society has developed to a point where antiantifa ideas are rejected comprehensively

we’re in

Double negative?

yes we appropriated it from some memememememememe someone else posted while back, if antifa is anti fascist, and they market themselves as anti antifa, then what does that make them

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:41:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278885
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Our independent candidate had a +13.6% swing…didn’t unseat Dan Tehan.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/guide/wann

that says they stole it all from labour and greenery so

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:42:09
From: Arts
ID: 2278886
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

So, who won?

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:43:22
From: kii
ID: 2278887
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


So, who won?

The potato got mashed.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:51:52
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2278890
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


So, who won?

the australian people.

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Date: 4/05/2025 12:57:13
From: party_pants
ID: 2278892
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Our independent candidate had a +13.6% swing…didn’t unseat Dan Tehan.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/guide/wann

There is talk of him becoming the next leader of the opposition.

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:01:27
From: buffy
ID: 2278893
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


buffy said:

Our independent candidate had a +13.6% swing…didn’t unseat Dan Tehan.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/guide/wann

There is talk of him becoming the next leader of the opposition.

They couldn’t handle him…

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:02:09
From: buffy
ID: 2278894
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


party_pants said:

buffy said:

Our independent candidate had a +13.6% swing…didn’t unseat Dan Tehan.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/guide/wann

There is talk of him becoming the next leader of the opposition.

They couldn’t handle him…

Oh, sorry, I thought you were making a funny about Alex taking over the opposition. My brain needs unscrambling…

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:05:52
From: party_pants
ID: 2278895
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


party_pants said:

buffy said:

Our independent candidate had a +13.6% swing…didn’t unseat Dan Tehan.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/guide/wann

There is talk of him becoming the next leader of the opposition.

They couldn’t handle him…

I don’t know much about Dan Tehan. he did well as trade minister, having a background as a senior civil servant involved in diplomacy and trade negotiations and such.

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:06:00
From: Michael V
ID: 2278896
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Passed a digital billboard with ex-member Luke Howarth on it. I suppose I’ll see him working at the local Maccas soon.

Congratulations on disposing of him.

Do you have any feeling as to why Petrie wanted to go ALP?

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:06:05
From: buffy
ID: 2278897
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:


buffy said:

Our independent candidate had a +13.6% swing…didn’t unseat Dan Tehan.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/guide/wann

that says they stole it all from labour and greenery so

Labor was never going to win here, I don’t know why they bothered to even put up a candidate. I know some of the Greens voters here too, and they have been disillusioned lately.

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:06:19
From: party_pants
ID: 2278898
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


buffy said:

party_pants said:

There is talk of him becoming the next leader of the opposition.

They couldn’t handle him…

Oh, sorry, I thought you were making a funny about Alex taking over the opposition. My brain needs unscrambling…

ah.

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:06:47
From: Michael V
ID: 2278899
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

First opposition leader to lose his seat.

Mr Potato head can hang that up on his wall.

Congrats to Ali France.

I don’t think it is down to personality. I mean Albo’s a cringeworthy dag too.

He does come across as human though.

Yes.

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:08:52
From: Michael V
ID: 2278900
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

He does come across as human though.

That’s his one good point above dag part.

he has many good points. You don’t have to be a “personality” to get your job done. You have to be competent.

Yes. Charisma =/= competence.

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:10:17
From: Michael V
ID: 2278901
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Our independent candidate had a +13.6% swing…didn’t unseat Dan Tehan.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/guide/wann

Bummer.

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:11:21
From: Michael V
ID: 2278902
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

right so we’re all agreed then that after almost 100 years it appears there’s some hope that at least in some corners of the world or even hemispheres the human society has developed to a point where antiantifa ideas are rejected comprehensively

we’re in

Double negative?

yes we appropriated it from some memememememememe someone else posted while back, if antifa is anti fascist, and they market themselves as anti antifa, then what does that make them

Ah. Too complicated for my geology brane-cell.

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:12:12
From: Michael V
ID: 2278904
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


So, who won?

Them (points ——————->>).

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:23:02
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278909
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Passed a digital billboard with ex-member Luke Howarth on it. I suppose I’ll see him working at the local Maccas soon.

Congratulations on disposing of him.

Do you have any feeling as to why Petrie wanted to go ALP?

Absolutely not. He’s very visible in the area, does a lot for the local private schools where the rich people send their kids. The major demographics are rich and old (I am, of course, neither). Historically conservative area but we did vote in Yvette D’Ath.

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Date: 4/05/2025 13:38:29
From: Michael V
ID: 2278911
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Passed a digital billboard with ex-member Luke Howarth on it. I suppose I’ll see him working at the local Maccas soon.

Congratulations on disposing of him.

Do you have any feeling as to why Petrie wanted to go ALP?

Absolutely not. He’s very visible in the area, does a lot for the local private schools where the rich people send their kids. The major demographics are rich and old (I am, of course, neither). Historically conservative area but we did vote in Yvette D’Ath.

Thanks for the answer.

:)

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Date: 4/05/2025 14:03:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2278915
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Thank you Ali France.
Thank you, Thank You.

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Date: 4/05/2025 14:30:23
From: kii
ID: 2278919
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 4/05/2025 14:30:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278920
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

haven’t yous lot grown potatoes before, everyone knows they don’t stop reemerging every season

They do stop if you stop watering them or if you water them too much. Stop Dead.

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Date: 4/05/2025 14:31:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278921
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Our independent candidate had a +13.6% swing…didn’t unseat Dan Tehan.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/guide/wann

Bugger.

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Date: 4/05/2025 14:34:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278923
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

Our independent candidate had a +13.6% swing…didn’t unseat Dan Tehan.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/guide/wann

that says they stole it all from labour and greenery so

Labor was never going to win here, I don’t know why they bothered to even put up a candidate. I know some of the Greens voters here too, and they have been disillusioned lately.


That was the same here. 60<70% were goiing to vote Sussan Ley’s way anyway.

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Date: 4/05/2025 14:38:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278927
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tau.Neutrino said:


Thank you Ali France.
Thank you, Thank You.

Thank the voters of Dixon. They’d clearly had enough of him.

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Date: 4/05/2025 14:40:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278929
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Thank you Ali France.
Thank you, Thank You.

Thank the voters of Dixon. They’d clearly had enough of him.

or is it Dickson. I recall last night Antony Green said “in the electorate of Dickson, Peter Dick er Dutton, looks to be losing his seat”.

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Date: 4/05/2025 14:45:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278933
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025


Link

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Date: 4/05/2025 14:47:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278935
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Link

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Date: 4/05/2025 14:47:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2278937
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Over.

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Date: 4/05/2025 14:49:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278939
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


Over.

For another three years.

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Date: 4/05/2025 14:54:19
From: Arts
ID: 2278940
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


Over.

are you ok?

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Date: 4/05/2025 15:14:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2278952
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


Over.

LOL

:)

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Date: 4/05/2025 15:26:03
From: esselte
ID: 2278956
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

My take: Dutton lost his seat.

The LNP/Lib review will likely largely blame Dutton, without actually grappling with the root cause of their losses – unkindness – which many of their MPs will likely continue to espouse.

Over all, that may keep them in the wilderness for a while longer until they figure out how to include decency and kindness into the party’s view of the world.

+1. Well said.

+2.

Just saying, if you’re going to co-sign a message of “kindness over unkindness”, maybe stop referring to Dutton as “Mr Potato Head”.

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Date: 4/05/2025 15:32:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278957
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

esselte said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

+1. Well said.

+2.

Just saying, if you’re going to co-sign a message of “kindness over unkindness”, maybe stop referring to Dutton as “Mr Potato Head”.

OK. Mr Potatokindof Head.

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Date: 4/05/2025 15:34:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2278958
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Link


so many wise guys able to explain the result after it happens

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Date: 4/05/2025 15:37:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278959
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

Link


so many wise guys able to explain the result after it happens

I believe Annabel is a Sheila or she’s a good bloke.

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Date: 4/05/2025 15:49:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278960
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Libs wanted Australians to press the Dutton button.

And they did, but it was the one that activated the ejection seat.

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Date: 4/05/2025 15:55:15
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2278961
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


Libs wanted Australians to press the Dutton button.

And they did, but it was the one that activated the ejection seat.

Ha!

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Date: 4/05/2025 15:56:21
From: Michael V
ID: 2278962
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

esselte said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

+2.

Just saying, if you’re going to co-sign a message of “kindness over unkindness”, maybe stop referring to Dutton as “Mr Potato Head”.

OK. Mr Potatokindof Head.

:)

Made me laugh.

:)

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Date: 4/05/2025 15:57:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278963
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

esselte said:

Just saying, if you’re going to co-sign a message of “kindness over unkindness”, maybe stop referring to Dutton as “Mr Potato Head”.

OK. Mr Potatokindof Head.

:)

Made me laugh.

:)

Spud’s a dud.

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Date: 4/05/2025 15:57:22
From: Michael V
ID: 2278964
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


Libs wanted Australians to press the Dutton button.

And they did, but it was the one that activated the ejection seat.

Giggle.

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Date: 4/05/2025 16:06:08
From: buffy
ID: 2278965
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Annabel Crabbe has done an analysis of the Lib campaign wrt women.

Link

>>The truly unfortunate thing — campaign-wise — about enraging people who work from home is that when you’re out doorknocking, guess who’s most likely to answer the door?<<

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Date: 4/05/2025 16:11:02
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278966
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

When Sussan Ley becomes leader

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Date: 4/05/2025 16:18:11
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2278967
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Did the paste eaters (greens) get any seats?

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Date: 4/05/2025 16:21:58
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278968
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Aww, it’s nice to congratulate another leader.

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Date: 4/05/2025 16:23:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2278969
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Aww, it’s nice to congratulate another leader.

“I don’t really want to meet with Trump at this juncture.”

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Date: 4/05/2025 16:31:34
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278970
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Aww, it’s nice to congratulate another leader.

“I don’t really want to meet with Trump at this juncture.”

Uh huh. Notable omission. Albo was one of the first to congratulate Trump. I imagine Trump only talked about himself, and doesn’t even remember Albo’s name.

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Date: 4/05/2025 16:33:24
From: buffy
ID: 2278971
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


When Sussan Ley becomes leader


But…does it work for the numerology. That’s why she spells her name with the double s…more auspicious in numerology.

Ref

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Date: 4/05/2025 16:34:39
From: buffy
ID: 2278972
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Aww, it’s nice to congratulate another leader.

“I don’t really want to meet with Trump at this juncture.”

Well, really…what would be the point?

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Date: 4/05/2025 16:36:52
From: Michael V
ID: 2278973
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Aww, it’s nice to congratulate another leader.

“I don’t really want to meet with Trump at this juncture.”

Uh huh. Notable omission. Albo was one of the first to congratulate Trump. I imagine Trump only talked about himself, and doesn’t even remember Albo’s name.

That’d be right.

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Date: 4/05/2025 16:37:42
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2278974
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Divine Angel said:

When Sussan Ley becomes leader


But…does it work for the numerology. That’s why she spells her name with the double s…more auspicious in numerology.

Ref

It was a question in the news quiz recently. I guess it is auspicious if she does become leader, the numerologist was right.

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Date: 4/05/2025 16:37:53
From: Michael V
ID: 2278975
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Divine Angel said:

When Sussan Ley becomes leader


But…does it work for the numerology. That’s why she spells her name with the double s…more auspicious in numerology.

Ref

Great.

(Shakes head.)

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Date: 4/05/2025 17:08:03
From: dv
ID: 2278976
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Libs tend to put Moderates in marginal seats because they are better at appealing to the centre.

Of course in an election like this the marginal seats all tend to go. Half-decent people like Warren Entsch, Bridget Archer, and Jenny Ware have been washed away. I think the only surviving MPs still attached to the Moderate Libs are Julian Leeser and Angie Bell.

In the Senate, Maria Kovacic and Dave Sharma won’t face election until 2028. Of the three Mods who just faced election, Andrew Bragg has won his spot, and Colbeck and Hume may well get over the line.

That’s about all that is left of the Turnbull wing of the party. That political space is now mainly occupied by the Teals.

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Date: 4/05/2025 17:20:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2278977
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


The Libs tend to put Moderates in marginal seats because they are better at appealing to the centre.

Of course in an election like this the marginal seats all tend to go. Half-decent people like Warren Entsch, Bridget Archer, and Jenny Ware have been washed away. I think the only surviving MPs still attached to the Moderate Libs are Julian Leeser and Angie Bell.

In the Senate, Maria Kovacic and Dave Sharma won’t face election until 2028. Of the three Mods who just faced election, Andrew Bragg has won his spot, and Colbeck and Hume may well get over the line.

That’s about all that is left of the Turnbull wing of the party. That political space is now mainly occupied by the Teals.

Serves them Right.

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Date: 4/05/2025 17:49:25
From: Michael V
ID: 2278981
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


The Libs tend to put Moderates in marginal seats because they are better at appealing to the centre.

Of course in an election like this the marginal seats all tend to go. Half-decent people like Warren Entsch, Bridget Archer, and Jenny Ware have been washed away. I think the only surviving MPs still attached to the Moderate Libs are Julian Leeser and Angie Bell.

In the Senate, Maria Kovacic and Dave Sharma won’t face election until 2028. Of the three Mods who just faced election, Andrew Bragg has won his spot, and Colbeck and Hume may well get over the line.

That’s about all that is left of the Turnbull wing of the party. That political space is now mainly occupied by the Teals.

Didn’t Warren Entsch just retire of his own volition at this election?

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Date: 4/05/2025 17:51:50
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2278983
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


The Libs tend to put Moderates in marginal seats because they are better at appealing to the centre.

Of course in an election like this the marginal seats all tend to go. Half-decent people like Warren Entsch, Bridget Archer, and Jenny Ware have been washed away. I think the only surviving MPs still attached to the Moderate Libs are Julian Leeser and Angie Bell.

In the Senate, Maria Kovacic and Dave Sharma won’t face election until 2028. Of the three Mods who just faced election, Andrew Bragg has won his spot, and Colbeck and Hume may well get over the line.

That’s about all that is left of the Turnbull wing of the party. That political space is now mainly occupied by the Teals.

The Libs have been pretty much ejected from metro areas so the question for them will now be how do they regain their appeal with inner-city moderates while still walking a line with regional voters.

For me, I think the only real way they do this is by divorcing from the (current) Coalition and going it alone for a while (let the Nats be “The Conservatives” for a while), dumping their nuclear policy, and starting a process of actively growing membership in metro areas through targeted recruitment of young members with a specific goal of preselecting young woman.

In essence they need a shift to left on social policy and a change in economic policy that favours younger voters.

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Date: 4/05/2025 17:59:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278985
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:

In essence they need a shift to left on social policy and a change in economic policy that favours younger voters.

Which i’m sure that they will do, once they work out where the money is going to come from.

Changes in social policy, economic attitudes, and (signficantly) any change on taxation, is likely to alienate quite a lot of their heretofor reliable donors.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:01:53
From: party_pants
ID: 2278986
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


dv said:

The Libs tend to put Moderates in marginal seats because they are better at appealing to the centre.

Of course in an election like this the marginal seats all tend to go. Half-decent people like Warren Entsch, Bridget Archer, and Jenny Ware have been washed away. I think the only surviving MPs still attached to the Moderate Libs are Julian Leeser and Angie Bell.

In the Senate, Maria Kovacic and Dave Sharma won’t face election until 2028. Of the three Mods who just faced election, Andrew Bragg has won his spot, and Colbeck and Hume may well get over the line.

That’s about all that is left of the Turnbull wing of the party. That political space is now mainly occupied by the Teals.

The Libs have been pretty much ejected from metro areas so the question for them will now be how do they regain their appeal with inner-city moderates while still walking a line with regional voters.

For me, I think the only real way they do this is by divorcing from the (current) Coalition and going it alone for a while (let the Nats be “The Conservatives” for a while), dumping their nuclear policy, and starting a process of actively growing membership in metro areas through targeted recruitment of young members with a specific goal of preselecting young woman.

In essence they need a shift to left on social policy and a change in economic policy that favours younger voters.

Sounds easy, but such a strategy is really about shutting down the whole party, dumping your core voters, and starting a new party with just the same name and brand.

Maybe easier to start a new party broadly aligned to Teal policies and targeted at the Teal type of voter.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:03:33
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278987
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:

Maybe easier to start a new party broadly aligned to Teal policies and targeted at the Teal type of voter.

If you can’t beat them, join them.

Or white-ant them, whichever works better.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:03:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278988
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

Libs wanted Australians to press the Dutton button.

And they did, but it was the one that activated the ejection seat.

Giggle.

:) worth a giggle at that.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:05:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278990
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Divine Angel said:

When Sussan Ley becomes leader


But…does it work for the numerology. That’s why she spells her name with the double s…more auspicious in numerology.

Ref

Didn’t know that.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:06:09
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278991
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


The Libs tend to put Moderates in marginal seats because they are better at appealing to the centre.

Of course in an election like this the marginal seats all tend to go. Half-decent people like Warren Entsch, Bridget Archer, and Jenny Ware have been washed away. I think the only surviving MPs still attached to the Moderate Libs are Julian Leeser and Angie Bell.

In the Senate, Maria Kovacic and Dave Sharma won’t face election until 2028. Of the three Mods who just faced election, Andrew Bragg has won his spot, and Colbeck and Hume may well get over the line.

That’s about all that is left of the Turnbull wing of the party. That political space is now mainly occupied by the Teals.

I suppose I’ll have to accept we’re going to have Leeser for another 3 years. He’s on 51.5% with 84% counted.

Still, 6% swing against this time, after about 7% last time.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:06:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 2278992
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

When Sussan Ley becomes leader


But…does it work for the numerology. That’s why she spells her name with the double s…more auspicious in numerology.

Ref

It was a question in the news quiz recently. I guess it is auspicious if she does become leader, the numerologist was right.

It is the Liberals. Make a woman leader?

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:08:44
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2278993
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Maybe easier to start a new party broadly aligned to Teal policies and targeted at the Teal type of voter.

I haven’t really followed that Teals thing. I’m assuming it means Independents?
Why not just say Independent?

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:09:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278994
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


dv said:

The Libs tend to put Moderates in marginal seats because they are better at appealing to the centre.

Of course in an election like this the marginal seats all tend to go. Half-decent people like Warren Entsch, Bridget Archer, and Jenny Ware have been washed away. I think the only surviving MPs still attached to the Moderate Libs are Julian Leeser and Angie Bell.

In the Senate, Maria Kovacic and Dave Sharma won’t face election until 2028. Of the three Mods who just faced election, Andrew Bragg has won his spot, and Colbeck and Hume may well get over the line.

That’s about all that is left of the Turnbull wing of the party. That political space is now mainly occupied by the Teals.

The Libs have been pretty much ejected from metro areas so the question for them will now be how do they regain their appeal with inner-city moderates while still walking a line with regional voters.

For me, I think the only real way they do this is by divorcing from the (current) Coalition and going it alone for a while (let the Nats be “The Conservatives” for a while), dumping their nuclear policy, and starting a process of actively growing membership in metro areas through targeted recruitment of young members with a specific goal of preselecting young woman.

In essence they need a shift to left on social policy and a change in economic policy that favours younger voters.

Well the Liberal party actually becoming a liberal party isn’t such a crazy idea.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:09:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2278996
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

But…does it work for the numerology. That’s why she spells her name with the double s…more auspicious in numerology.

Ref

It was a question in the news quiz recently. I guess it is auspicious if she does become leader, the numerologist was right.

It is the Liberals. Make a woman leader?

Well, if they’re not fussed about another lost election, it’d be an excuse for decades for them to refuse to consider female leaders – ‘Australians don’t like lady PMs’.

On the other hand, if they win, they can boast about how ‘progressive’ they are.

So, she just might be in with a chance.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:11:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2278997
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


party_pants said:

Maybe easier to start a new party broadly aligned to Teal policies and targeted at the Teal type of voter.

I haven’t really followed that Teals thing. I’m assuming it means Independents?
Why not just say Independent?

Because the Libs want to portray them as Greens.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:12:54
From: dv
ID: 2278998
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:13:30
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2278999
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Spiny Norman said:

party_pants said:

Maybe easier to start a new party broadly aligned to Teal policies and targeted at the Teal type of voter.

I haven’t really followed that Teals thing. I’m assuming it means Independents?
Why not just say Independent?

Because the Libs want to portray them as Greens.

Ah, so Independents it is then.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:14:40
From: Michael V
ID: 2279000
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


party_pants said:

Maybe easier to start a new party broadly aligned to Teal policies and targeted at the Teal type of voter.

I haven’t really followed that Teals thing. I’m assuming it means Independents?
Why not just say Independent?

Mixture of green and blue (colours and policies).

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:17:09
From: Michael V
ID: 2279002
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:



:)

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:18:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279003
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:



Where can i sign up for the ‘learn Chinese in under a week’ course?

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:21:27
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279004
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

ABC News:

No, the hat didn’t lose them the election.

But, it didn’t help them one tiny bloody bit, either.

See the look on Pete’s face: ‘f*** me, she actually said it’.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:27:11
From: dv
ID: 2279006
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


party_pants said:

Maybe it is easier to start a new party broadly aligned to Teal policies and targeted at the Teal type of voter.

I haven’t really followed that Teals thing. I’m assuming it means Independents?
Why not just say Independent?

No, there are all kinds of independents. Right wing nuts like David Van, comminity activists like Dai Le.

The Teals are a set of environmentalist but otherwise centrist independents that are funded by the Climate200 foundation. A big chunk of the funds came from by Simon Holmes a Court. They’ve specifically targeted traditional Liberal seats with people who are still a bit conservative but disgruntled with the Liberal party’s climate policies.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:29:36
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2279007
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

It was a question in the news quiz recently. I guess it is auspicious if she does become leader, the numerologist was right.

It is the Liberals. Make a woman leader?

Well, if they’re not fussed about another lost election, it’d be an excuse for decades for them to refuse to consider female leaders – ‘Australians don’t like lady PMs’.

On the other hand, if they win, they can boast about how ‘progressive’ they are.

So, she just might be in with a chance.

Dutton’s seat was taken by a woman.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:29:55
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2279008
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Spiny Norman said:

party_pants said:

Maybe it is easier to start a new party broadly aligned to Teal policies and targeted at the Teal type of voter.

I haven’t really followed that Teals thing. I’m assuming it means Independents?
Why not just say Independent?

No, there are all kinds of independents. Right wing nuts like David Van, comminity activists like Dai Le.

The Teals are a set of environmentalist but otherwise centrist independents that are funded by the Climate200 foundation. A big chunk of the funds came from by Simon Holmes a Court. They’ve specifically targeted traditional Liberal seats with people who are still a bit conservative but disgruntled with the Liberal party’s climate policies.

Ah thanks, I had suspected something like that as well.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:30:15
From: Michael V
ID: 2279009
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


dv said:


Where can i sign up for the ‘learn Chinese in under a week’ course?

Gosh! They’re cookers. You don’t expect anything to be either real or logical do you?

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:30:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279010
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:

dv said:


Where can i sign up for the ‘learn Chinese in under a week’ course?

^

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:31:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279011
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

dv said:


Where can i sign up for the ‘learn Chinese in under a week’ course?

Gosh! They’re cookers. You don’t expect anything to be either real or logical do you?

I wish that there really was a ‘learn Chinese in under a week’ course.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:33:10
From: Michael V
ID: 2279013
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

It is the Liberals. Make a woman leader?

Well, if they’re not fussed about another lost election, it’d be an excuse for decades for them to refuse to consider female leaders – ‘Australians don’t like lady PMs’.

On the other hand, if they win, they can boast about how ‘progressive’ they are.

So, she just might be in with a chance.

Dutton’s seat was taken by a woman.

And that’s a good thing.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:34:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279014
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Aww, it’s nice to congratulate another leader.

“I don’t really want to meet with Trump at this juncture.”

Well, really…what would be the point?

wait we thought this was the result dirty CHINA wanted why haven’t they jumped in and congratulated and taken credit and claimed responsibility we mean what a bunch of irresponsible selfish spoilsports

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:37:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279015
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

esselte said:

Just saying, if you’re going to co-sign a message of “kindness over unkindness”, maybe stop referring to Dutton as “Mr Potato Head”.

OK. Mr Potatokindof Head.

:)

Made me laugh.

:)

Spud’s a dud.

though we were kind of serious as well as in it’s all well and good to act as though one has the moral high ground and everything but the paradox of tolerance clearly demonstrates to us that it’s just another stealth opening to bring back the fascists

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:37:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2279016
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Where can i sign up for the ‘learn Chinese in under a week’ course?

Gosh! They’re cookers. You don’t expect anything to be either real or logical do you?

I wish that there really was a ‘learn Chinese in under a week’ course.

An employer’s wife tried teaching me whilst she was teaching her two young kids. It was unsuccessful, unfortunately.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:38:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279017
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

When Sussan Ley becomes leader


But…does it work for the numerology. That’s why she spells her name with the double s…more auspicious in numerology.

Ref

Great.

(Shakes head.)

^

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:40:03
From: party_pants
ID: 2279018
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


party_pants said:

Maybe easier to start a new party broadly aligned to Teal policies and targeted at the Teal type of voter.

I haven’t really followed that Teals thing. I’m assuming it means Independents?
Why not just say Independent?

I think you misunderstand. I think it is time for a new party to gather up all the Teals into a single bloc rather than having them all sit as independents.

Basically they are suburban Liberal voters who believe in climate change and want action on it. They are socially conservative but suspicious of big business. Voting Greens or ALP is just too big a step for them to take since they are still indoctrinated into thinking that people of that ilk are the enemy of civilisation. The conservatives pretty much ditched this bloc and went down the road of appealing to culture wars while cosying up with big business behind the scenes. They came to a fork in the road and went one way, leaving the Teals behind. I’m suggesting there is room for a new party to capture this space as a united party, rather than leave it up to random independents all doing their own thing.

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Date: 4/05/2025 18:42:54
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2279019
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Spiny Norman said:

party_pants said:

Maybe easier to start a new party broadly aligned to Teal policies and targeted at the Teal type of voter.

I haven’t really followed that Teals thing. I’m assuming it means Independents?
Why not just say Independent?

I think you misunderstand. I think it is time for a new party to gather up all the Teals into a single bloc rather than having them all sit as independents.

Basically they are suburban Liberal voters who believe in climate change and want action on it. They are socially conservative but suspicious of big business. Voting Greens or ALP is just too big a step for them to take since they are still indoctrinated into thinking that people of that ilk are the enemy of civilisation. The conservatives pretty much ditched this bloc and went down the road of appealing to culture wars while cosying up with big business behind the scenes. They came to a fork in the road and went one way, leaving the Teals behind. I’m suggesting there is room for a new party to capture this space as a united party, rather than leave it up to random independents all doing their own thing.

Interesting.

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Date: 4/05/2025 19:04:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279026
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Spiny Norman said:

party_pants said:

Maybe easier to start a new party broadly aligned to Teal policies and targeted at the Teal type of voter.

I haven’t really followed that Teals thing. I’m assuming it means Independents?
Why not just say Independent?

I think you misunderstand. I think it is time for a new party to gather up all the Teals into a single bloc rather than having them all sit as independents.

Basically they are suburban Liberal voters who believe in climate change and want action on it. They are socially conservative but suspicious of big business. Voting Greens or ALP is just too big a step for them to take since they are still indoctrinated into thinking that people of that ilk are the enemy of civilisation. The conservatives pretty much ditched this bloc and went down the road of appealing to culture wars while cosying up with big business behind the scenes. They came to a fork in the road and went one way, leaving the Teals behind. I’m suggesting there is room for a new party to capture this space as a united party, rather than leave it up to random independents all doing their own thing.

They’re not socially conservative. One of their main gripes with the Libs is the social conservatism of what’s supposed to be a “liberal” party.

They’re economically to the right but socially left of centre as well as pro-green.

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Date: 4/05/2025 19:06:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279027
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:

They’re not socially conservative. One of their main gripes with the Libs is the social conservatism of what’s supposed to be a “liberal” party.

They’re economically to the right but socially left of centre as well as pro-green.

All over the shop, in other words. :)

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Date: 4/05/2025 19:06:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279028
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

It is the Liberals. Make a woman leader?

Well, if they’re not fussed about another lost election, it’d be an excuse for decades for them to refuse to consider female leaders – ‘Australians don’t like lady PMs’.

On the other hand, if they win, they can boast about how ‘progressive’ they are.

So, she just might be in with a chance.

Dutton’s seat was taken by a woman.

Even a bigger kick in the guts because he didn’t suppport women in high places.

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Date: 4/05/2025 19:07:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279029
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Where can i sign up for the ‘learn Chinese in under a week’ course?

Gosh! They’re cookers. You don’t expect anything to be either real or logical do you?

I wish that there really was a ‘learn Chinese in under a week’ course.

No such thing.

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Date: 4/05/2025 19:08:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279030
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

They’re not socially conservative. One of their main gripes with the Libs is the social conservatism of what’s supposed to be a “liberal” party.

They’re economically to the right but socially left of centre as well as pro-green.

All over the shop, in other words. :)

Well, probably closer to the US Democrats (and the old Australian Democrats) than the current Liberal Party.

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Date: 4/05/2025 19:44:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279034
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Gosh! They’re cookers. You don’t expect anything to be either real or logical do you?

I wish that there really was a ‘learn Chinese in under a week’ course.

No such thing.

oh yeah ¿ how did ChatGPT do it then

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Date: 4/05/2025 19:57:39
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2279036
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce has revealed he was will undergo surgery after being diagnosed with prostate cancer .

Joyce underwent a prostate-specific antigen (PSA) blood test at the advice of his general practitioner, he told the ABC.

“I had a PSA test, which all men should get,” he said.

The test returned an elevated result and he then underwent an MRI and biopsy.
“Prostate cancer, if you get it early, is very, very treatable; in fact, about 97 per cent successful,” Joyce said.

“So I’m very blessed and lucky to discover this early.

“I’ll have the operation on Monday and I will then have a couple of days in hospital and will recuperate after that.”

The Nationals MP is positive about his recovery.

He retained his federal seat of New England on Saturday night at the federal election, and said he will continue on in the role.

https://7news.com.au/news/barnaby-joyce-announces-prostate-cancer-diagnosis-c-18579558

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Date: 4/05/2025 21:38:24
From: dv
ID: 2279041
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Sweeping policy reset needed to reconnect with voters, senior Liberals say – as others call for lurch further right

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/may/04/sweeping-policy-reset-needed-to-reconnect-with-voters-senior-liberals-say-as-others-call-for-lurch-further-right

Maybe they just need to split

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Date: 4/05/2025 21:40:45
From: buffy
ID: 2279042
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

They’re not socially conservative. One of their main gripes with the Libs is the social conservatism of what’s supposed to be a “liberal” party.

They’re economically to the right but socially left of centre as well as pro-green.

All over the shop, in other words. :)

Independents. No two the same.

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Date: 4/05/2025 21:50:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279044
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:

Sweeping policy reset needed to reconnect with voters, senior Liberals say – as others call for lurch further right

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/may/04/sweeping-policy-reset-needed-to-reconnect-with-voters-senior-liberals-say-as-others-call-for-lurch-further-right

Maybe they just need to split

Nah But Then How Would They Ever Get Majority Again

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Date: 4/05/2025 22:04:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279048
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 4/05/2025 22:13:54
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2279050
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Sweeping policy reset needed to reconnect with voters, senior Liberals say – as others call for lurch further right

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/may/04/sweeping-policy-reset-needed-to-reconnect-with-voters-senior-liberals-say-as-others-call-for-lurch-further-right

Maybe they just need to split

Birmo is an actual good human. Our daughters go to the same school and we’re on one of the school committees together.

He has intimated that his reason for getting out of politics (or at least one of the reasons) is that he didn’t agree with the policy direction the party was taking. If you remember back, he was vocal on the day after the 2022 election saying that the Libs needed to change or risk being relegated to the political wilderness.

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Date: 4/05/2025 22:53:38
From: kii
ID: 2279051
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


dv said:

Sweeping policy reset needed to reconnect with voters, senior Liberals say – as others call for lurch further right

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/may/04/sweeping-policy-reset-needed-to-reconnect-with-voters-senior-liberals-say-as-others-call-for-lurch-further-right

Maybe they just need to split

Birmo is an actual good human. Our daughters go to the same school and we’re on one of the school committees together.

He has intimated that his reason for getting out of politics (or at least one of the reasons) is that he didn’t agree with the policy direction the party was taking. If you remember back, he was vocal on the day after the 2022 election saying that the Libs needed to change or risk being relegated to the political wilderness.

Lololol 😆

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Date: 4/05/2025 22:56:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279052
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce has revealed he was will undergo surgery after being diagnosed with prostate cancer .

Joyce underwent a prostate-specific antigen (PSA) blood test at the advice of his general practitioner, he told the ABC.

“I had a PSA test, which all men should get,” he said.

The test returned an elevated result and he then underwent an MRI and biopsy.
“Prostate cancer, if you get it early, is very, very treatable; in fact, about 97 per cent successful,” Joyce said.

“So I’m very blessed and lucky to discover this early.

“I’ll have the operation on Monday and I will then have a couple of days in hospital and will recuperate after that.”

The Nationals MP is positive about his recovery.

He retained his federal seat of New England on Saturday night at the federal election, and said he will continue on in the role.

https://7news.com.au/news/barnaby-joyce-announces-prostate-cancer-diagnosis-c-18579558

Been there, done similar.

Had radiation treatment, regular monitoring tests.

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Date: 4/05/2025 23:44:35
From: kii
ID: 2279054
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Simon Birmingham explained that he did not always agree with Dutton but believed the Coalition leader understood the need to win over mainstream voters as someone who was “thoroughly decent a perspective in touch with many hard-working Australians”.

😆 🤣

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/simon-birmingham-to-quit-20241128-p5kud5.html

Includes a photo of him hugging Dutton.

Dutton has never had any idea of what hard-working Australians deal with every single day.

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Date: 5/05/2025 07:44:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279085
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


dv said:

Sweeping policy reset needed to reconnect with voters, senior Liberals say – as others call for lurch further right

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/may/04/sweeping-policy-reset-needed-to-reconnect-with-voters-senior-liberals-say-as-others-call-for-lurch-further-right

Maybe they just need to split

Birmo is an actual good human. Our daughters go to the same school and we’re on one of the school committees together.

He has intimated that his reason for getting out of politics (or at least one of the reasons) is that he didn’t agree with the policy direction the party was taking. If you remember back, he was vocal on the day after the 2022 election saying that the Libs needed to change or risk being relegated to the political wilderness.

That he was in the wrong party?

Anyway, A voter from Dutton’s electorate:

She said she voted for Ms France and was not surprised by her election victory.

“I just couldn’t vote for him as a person and what he stood for, or the party, really,” Ms Ramm said.

“I think if you were in the area, you kind of knew probably what was going to happen. There was a lot of support, there was a lot of red around.

“Maybe people in the area weren’t surprised. Maybe the rest of the country was.”

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Date: 5/05/2025 07:46:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279086
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

“For some reason, he didn’t come across as a personable leader,” Mr Kumar said.

“His ideas and policies might be good, but I think most of them didn’t sell well with the public.”
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Date: 5/05/2025 07:56:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279096
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

Sweeping policy reset needed to reconnect with voters, senior Liberals say – as others call for lurch further right

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/may/04/sweeping-policy-reset-needed-to-reconnect-with-voters-senior-liberals-say-as

Maybe they just need to split

Birmo is an actual good human. Our daughters go to the same school and we’re on one of the school committees together.

He has intimated that his reason for getting out of politics (or at least one of the reasons) is that he didn’t agree with the policy direction the party was taking. If you remember back, he was vocal on the day after the 2022 election saying that the Libs needed to change or risk being relegated to the political wilderness.

That he was in the wrong party?

Anyway, A voter from Dutton’s electorate:

She said she voted for Ms France and was not surprised by her election victory.

“I just couldn’t vote for him as a person and what he stood for, or the party, really,” Ms Ramm said.

“I think if you were in the area, you kind of knew probably what was going to happen. There was a lot of support, there was a lot of red around.

“Maybe people in the area weren’t surprised. Maybe the rest of the country was.”

well nice of them to tell us in advance

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Date: 5/05/2025 07:58:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279099
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

Birmo is an actual good human. Our daughters go to the same school and we’re on one of the school committees together.

He has intimated that his reason for getting out of politics (or at least one of the reasons) is that he didn’t agree with the policy direction the party was taking. If you remember back, he was vocal on the day after the 2022 election saying that the Libs needed to change or risk being relegated to the political wilderness.

That he was in the wrong party?

Anyway, A voter from Dutton’s electorate:

She said she voted for Ms France and was not surprised by her election victory.

“I just couldn’t vote for him as a person and what he stood for, or the party, really,” Ms Ramm said.

“I think if you were in the area, you kind of knew probably what was going to happen. There was a lot of support, there was a lot of red around.

“Maybe people in the area weren’t surprised. Maybe the rest of the country was.”

well nice of them to tell us in advance

They had to keep it a secret from Dutton who obviously wasn’t spending much if any time in his own electorate.

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:02:58
From: kii
ID: 2279101
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

snigger

“Birmo”

Still laughing at this.

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:03:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2279102
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce has revealed he was will undergo surgery after being diagnosed with prostate cancer .

Joyce underwent a prostate-specific antigen (PSA) blood test at the advice of his general practitioner, he told the ABC.

“I had a PSA test, which all men should get,” he said.

The test returned an elevated result and he then underwent an MRI and biopsy.
“Prostate cancer, if you get it early, is very, very treatable; in fact, about 97 per cent successful,” Joyce said.

“So I’m very blessed and lucky to discover this early.

“I’ll have the operation on Monday and I will then have a couple of days in hospital and will recuperate after that.”

The Nationals MP is positive about his recovery.

He retained his federal seat of New England on Saturday night at the federal election, and said he will continue on in the role.

https://7news.com.au/news/barnaby-joyce-announces-prostate-cancer-diagnosis-c-18579558

Been there, done similar.

Had radiation treatment, regular monitoring tests.

I’m at the regular monitoring stage. Intervention will be in the future.

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:07:30
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2279105
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


snigger

“Birmo”

Still laughing at this.

At the nomenclature or the idea that moderate Liberal politicians could conceivably be decent human beings?

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:08:06
From: kii
ID: 2279106
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


kii said:

snigger

“Birmo”

Still laughing at this.

At the nomenclature or the idea that moderate Liberal politicians could conceivably be decent human beings?

The nickname.

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:19:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279110
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce has revealed he was will undergo surgery after being diagnosed with prostate cancer .

Joyce underwent a prostate-specific antigen (PSA) blood test at the advice of his general practitioner, he told the ABC.

“I had a PSA test, which all men should get,” he said.

The test returned an elevated result and he then underwent an MRI and biopsy.
“Prostate cancer, if you get it early, is very, very treatable; in fact, about 97 per cent successful,” Joyce said.

“So I’m very blessed and lucky to discover this early.

“I’ll have the operation on Monday and I will then have a couple of days in hospital and will recuperate after that.”

The Nationals MP is positive about his recovery.

He retained his federal seat of New England on Saturday night at the federal election, and said he will continue on in the role.

https://7news.com.au/news/barnaby-joyce-announces-prostate-cancer-diagnosis-c-18579558

Been there, done similar.

Had radiation treatment, regular monitoring tests.

I’m at the regular monitoring stage. Intervention will be in the future.

I’ve had the TURPs.

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:23:57
From: Michael V
ID: 2279112
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Been there, done similar.

Had radiation treatment, regular monitoring tests.

I’m at the regular monitoring stage. Intervention will be in the future.

I’ve had the TURPs.

All good now?

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:24:15
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2279113
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Been there, done similar.

Had radiation treatment, regular monitoring tests.

I’m at the regular monitoring stage. Intervention will be in the future.

I’ve had the TURPs.

Reminder: whatever bits you have, get ‘em checked.

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:32:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279116
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I’m at the regular monitoring stage. Intervention will be in the future.

I’ve had the TURPs.

All good now?

Yep.

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:33:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279117
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I’m at the regular monitoring stage. Intervention will be in the future.

I’ve had the TURPs.

Reminder: whatever bits you have, get ‘em checked.

The bits I’ve still got, you mean?

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:37:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279118
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

I’ve had the TURPs.

All good now?

Yep.

Pop-up

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:39:30
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2279119
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Andrew Bolt says it was the voters who were wrong as Sky News commentators grieve Dutton election loss

It was a result that Andrew Bolt was not expecting and could not countenance.

By 9.46pm the rightwing commentator had penned a piece on the Herald Sun blaming the Australian electorate for the Coalition loss.

“No, the voters aren’t always right. This time they were wrong,” Bolt wrote.

The reason for the loss? It was because the Liberal party “refused to fight the ‘culture wars’”.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/commentisfree/2025/may/04/andrew-bolt-sky-news-react-coalition-loss-australian-federal-election

Idiots.

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:41:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279120
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


Andrew Bolt says it was the voters who were wrong as Sky News commentators grieve Dutton election loss

It was a result that Andrew Bolt was not expecting and could not countenance.

By 9.46pm the rightwing commentator had penned a piece on the Herald Sun blaming the Australian electorate for the Coalition loss.

“No, the voters aren’t always right. This time they were wrong,” Bolt wrote.

The reason for the loss? It was because the Liberal party “refused to fight the ‘culture wars’”.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/commentisfree/2025/may/04/andrew-bolt-sky-news-react-coalition-loss-australian-federal-election

Idiots.

Sorry Andrrew but YOU are wrong and always ave been. Every time. Which is why I usually pay you no attention.

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:55:05
From: kii
ID: 2279124
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I’m at the regular monitoring stage. Intervention will be in the future.

I’ve had the TURPs.

Reminder: whatever bits you have, get ‘em checked.

Or don’t and let it kill you.

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Date: 5/05/2025 08:59:06
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2279127
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


Andrew Bolt says it was the voters who were wrong as Sky News commentators grieve Dutton election loss

It was a result that Andrew Bolt was not expecting and could not countenance.

By 9.46pm the rightwing commentator had penned a piece on the Herald Sun blaming the Australian electorate for the Coalition loss.

“No, the voters aren’t always right. This time they were wrong,” Bolt wrote.

The reason for the loss? It was because the Liberal party “refused to fight the ‘culture wars’”.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/commentisfree/2025/may/04/andrew-bolt-sky-news-react-coalition-loss-australian-federal-election

Idiots.

The Lib panellist on ABC’s election coverage on Saturday night directly blamed the voters too, especially those in Dickson and Petrie.

I’m beginning to see where the problem lies in their defeat.

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Date: 5/05/2025 09:00:45
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2279128
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

Andrew Bolt says it was the voters who were wrong as Sky News commentators grieve Dutton election loss

It was a result that Andrew Bolt was not expecting and could not countenance.

By 9.46pm the rightwing commentator had penned a piece on the Herald Sun blaming the Australian electorate for the Coalition loss.

“No, the voters aren’t always right. This time they were wrong,” Bolt wrote.

The reason for the loss? It was because the Liberal party “refused to fight the ‘culture wars’”.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/commentisfree/2025/may/04/andrew-bolt-sky-news-react-coalition-loss-australian-federal-election

Idiots.

The Lib panellist on ABC’s election coverage on Saturday night directly blamed the voters too, especially those in Dickson and Petrie.

I’m beginning to see where the problem lies in their defeat.

ermmmm it was the voters fault. but not in the way those common taters think.

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Date: 5/05/2025 09:05:21
From: Michael V
ID: 2279131
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

Andrew Bolt says it was the voters who were wrong as Sky News commentators grieve Dutton election loss

It was a result that Andrew Bolt was not expecting and could not countenance.

By 9.46pm the rightwing commentator had penned a piece on the Herald Sun blaming the Australian electorate for the Coalition loss.

“No, the voters aren’t always right. This time they were wrong,” Bolt wrote.

The reason for the loss? It was because the Liberal party “refused to fight the ‘culture wars’”.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/commentisfree/2025/may/04/andrew-bolt-sky-news-react-coalition-loss-australian-federal-election

Idiots.

The Lib panellist on ABC’s election coverage on Saturday night directly blamed the voters too, especially those in Dickson and Petrie.

I’m beginning to see where the problem lies in their defeat.

Heh!

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Date: 5/05/2025 09:09:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279134
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


Andrew Bolt says it was the voters who were wrong as Sky News commentators grieve Dutton election loss

It was a result that Andrew Bolt was not expecting and could not countenance.

By 9.46pm the rightwing commentator had penned a piece on the Herald Sun blaming the Australian electorate for the Coalition loss.

“No, the voters aren’t always right. This time they were wrong,” Bolt wrote.

The reason for the loss? It was because the Liberal party “refused to fight the ‘culture wars’”.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/commentisfree/2025/may/04/andrew-bolt-sky-news-react-coalition-loss-australian-federal-election

Idiots.

I don’t think of him as ‘Andrew Bolt’, but rather as ‘A. Blot’.

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Date: 5/05/2025 10:22:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279147
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:

Divine Angel said:

Spiny Norman said:

Andrew Bolt says it was the voters who were wrong as Sky News commentators grieve Dutton election loss

It was a result that Andrew Bolt was not expecting and could not countenance.

By 9.46pm the rightwing commentator had penned a piece on the Herald Sun blaming the Australian electorate for the Coalition loss.

“No, the voters aren’t always right. This time they were wrong,” Bolt wrote.

The reason for the loss? It was because the Liberal party “refused to fight the ‘culture wars’”.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/commentisfree/2025/may/04/andrew-bolt-sky-news-react-coalition-loss-australian-federal-election

Idiots.

The Lib panellist on ABC’s election coverage on Saturday night directly blamed the voters too, especially those in Dickson and Petrie.

I’m beginning to see where the problem lies in their defeat.

ermmmm it was the voters fault. but not in the way those common taters think.

wait we thought only hippie communist lefty lgbtqiasdf full spectrum antifa warriors were allowed to complain about voters being wrong and how actually everyone loves national socialism

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Date: 5/05/2025 10:25:01
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2279151
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

https://alp.org.au/our-people/our-people/sarah-witty/

No relation.

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Date: 5/05/2025 10:34:00
From: kii
ID: 2279155
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Is this a real post? I’m banned from his social media.

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Date: 5/05/2025 10:45:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2279157
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Is this a real post? I’m banned from his social media.


I don’t know, but I live in hope. It’d be good riddance.

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Date: 5/05/2025 10:49:20
From: kii
ID: 2279159
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


kii said:

Is this a real post? I’m banned from his social media.


I don’t know, but I live in hope. It’d be good riddance.

Unfortunately I am not banned on Instagram or Xwitter. Then again I don’t have a Xwitter account anymore. My goddess he posts the most toxic male shit on Instagram.

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Date: 5/05/2025 11:31:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279173
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


kii said:

Is this a real post? I’m banned from his social media.


I don’t know, but I live in hope. It’d be good riddance.

It’s not showing up on his Twitter account.

Can’t believe that he’s capable of feeling embarrassment, so he wouldn’t have removed it forthat reason.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:10:42
From: kii
ID: 2279200
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Trump is claiming that Albanese is a friend and that he doesn’t know who Dutton is.

LOLOLOL….

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:14:59
From: Cymek
ID: 2279202
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Trump is claiming that Albanese is a friend and that he doesn’t know who Dutton is.

LOLOLOL….

Imagine as a national leader having to deal with Trump.

You’d obviously have diplomatic skills, but still if you are person with any morals, he’d be like some sexist bogan

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:15:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279203
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:

Trump is claiming that Albanese is a friend and that he doesn’t know who Dutton is.

LOLOLOL….

wow these fucks really haven’t grown out of their Year 3 playground antics

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:16:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279204
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Cymek said:

kii said:

Trump is claiming that Albanese is a friend and that he doesn’t know who Dutton is.

LOLOLOL….

Imagine as a national leader having to deal with Trump.

You’d obviously have diplomatic skills, but still if you are person with any morals, he’d be like some sexist bogan

Just tell him to fuck off and you’ll get an unfair +10% on your polling figures it’s like a bad RPG.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:19:15
From: Ian
ID: 2279205
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Climate Council chief executive Amanda McKenzie said:

Voters have sent a resounding message: no party can expect to govern this country without a credible plan to cut climate pollution. Peter Dutton’s scheme to delay climate action with a nuclear fantasy was a major turn-off – particularly for women and undecided voters. Instead, in overwhelming numbers, people voted for Labor’s cleaner renewable-powered future backed by storage, including home batteries.

Climate denial and delay are now politically toxic in Australia. This is a lesson that the Coalition ought to have learned in 2022, when a record number of climate champions knocked out seven of their MPs. The 2025 election results show this is now a political norm: voters won’t consider you fit for government unless you have sensible policies that pass the climate barometer. Aussie voters expect, and deserve, much better than Trumpian attacks on science and climate denialism.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:31:23
From: Tamb
ID: 2279211
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Ian said:


Climate Council chief executive Amanda McKenzie said:

Voters have sent a resounding message: no party can expect to govern this country without a credible plan to cut climate pollution. Peter Dutton’s scheme to delay climate action with a nuclear fantasy was a major turn-off – particularly for women and undecided voters. Instead, in overwhelming numbers, people voted for Labor’s cleaner renewable-powered future backed by storage, including home batteries.

Climate denial and delay are now politically toxic in Australia. This is a lesson that the Coalition ought to have learned in 2022, when a record number of climate champions knocked out seven of their MPs. The 2025 election results show this is now a political norm: voters won’t consider you fit for government unless you have sensible policies that pass the climate barometer. Aussie voters expect, and deserve, much better than Trumpian attacks on science and climate denialism.


The sensible policies must be explained to the voters not merely promises to take action at some tenuous time.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:34:03
From: buffy
ID: 2279212
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Linda Reynolds has been having a say.

ABC news item

From that piece – “And in fact, until 2001 the majority of Australian women voted for the Liberal Party, and that seems almost inconceivable now.” Really? Until 2001? Not in the circles I move in. We had the Australian Democrats from way before that time and they hived off a lot of women voters. As did Bob Brown when he started the Greens.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:36:43
From: dv
ID: 2279214
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The division of Forrest appears to be an example of what I called the Teal Cliff.
Labor can’t win the seat, but if they come 2nd after preference distribution, then the Libs win the seat. If they come 3rd behind the Teals … then the Teals win the seat.
Assuming Labor would prefer that the seat went to a Teal rather than to the Coalition, Labor might have been better runnind dead, or even not fielding a candidate.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:43:46
From: dv
ID: 2279219
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Linda Reynolds has been having a say.

ABC news item

From that piece – “And in fact, until 2001 the majority of Australian women voted for the Liberal Party, and that seems almost inconceivable now.” Really? Until 2001? Not in the circles I move in. We had the Australian Democrats from way before that time and they hived off a lot of women voters. As did Bob Brown when he started the Greens.

I mean a few women might have been put off by Linda Reynolds calling a rape victim a “lying cow”.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:44:33
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2279221
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

kii said:


Is this a real post? I’m banned from his social media.


It’s real – just found it on his feed.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:45:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279222
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


buffy said:

Linda Reynolds has been having a say.

ABC news item

From that piece – “And in fact, until 2001 the majority of Australian women voted for the Liberal Party, and that seems almost inconceivable now.” Really? Until 2001? Not in the circles I move in. We had the Australian Democrats from way before that time and they hived off a lot of women voters. As did Bob Brown when he started the Greens.

I mean a few women might have been put off by Linda Reynolds calling a rape victim a “lying cow”.

Most. I’d reckon.
L.R. is a loony. I don’t know why she’s still there. If I was voting for her, she’d be on the bottom of the list.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:45:29
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2279223
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Just lovely.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:45:37
From: Michael V
ID: 2279224
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Ian said:


Climate Council chief executive Amanda McKenzie said:

Voters have sent a resounding message: no party can expect to govern this country without a credible plan to cut climate pollution. Peter Dutton’s scheme to delay climate action with a nuclear fantasy was a major turn-off – particularly for women and undecided voters. Instead, in overwhelming numbers, people voted for Labor’s cleaner renewable-powered future backed by storage, including home batteries.

Climate denial and delay are now politically toxic in Australia. This is a lesson that the Coalition ought to have learned in 2022, when a record number of climate champions knocked out seven of their MPs. The 2025 election results show this is now a political norm: voters won’t consider you fit for government unless you have sensible policies that pass the climate barometer. Aussie voters expect, and deserve, much better than Trumpian attacks on science and climate denialism.

Fair comment.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:46:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279226
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

AussieDJ said:


kii said:

Is this a real post? I’m banned from his social media.


It’s real – just found it on his feed.

Imagine, being able to pop a cork and celebrate being an idiot.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:46:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279227
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Spiny Norman said:


Just lovely.

Perfect.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:47:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279228
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Ian said:

Climate Council chief executive Amanda McKenzie said:

Voters have sent a resounding message: no party can expect to govern this country without a credible plan to cut climate pollution. Peter Dutton’s scheme to delay climate action with a nuclear fantasy was a major turn-off – particularly for women and undecided voters. Instead, in overwhelming numbers, people voted for Labor’s cleaner renewable-powered future backed by storage, including home batteries.

Climate denial and delay are now politically toxic in Australia. This is a lesson that the Coalition ought to have learned in 2022, when a record number of climate champions knocked out seven of their MPs. The 2025 election results show this is now a political norm: voters won’t consider you fit for government unless you have sensible policies that pass the climate barometer. Aussie voters expect, and deserve, much better than Trumpian attacks on science and climate denialism.

Fair comment.

It is.

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Date: 5/05/2025 12:51:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2279231
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


buffy said:

Linda Reynolds has been having a say.

ABC news item

From that piece – “And in fact, until 2001 the majority of Australian women voted for the Liberal Party, and that seems almost inconceivable now.” Really? Until 2001? Not in the circles I move in. We had the Australian Democrats from way before that time and they hived off a lot of women voters. As did Bob Brown when he started the Greens.

I mean a few women might have been put off by Linda Reynolds calling a rape victim a “lying cow”.

Yair.

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Date: 5/05/2025 14:11:26
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2279254
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

captain_spalding said:

Well, if they’re not fussed about another lost election, it’d be an excuse for decades for them to refuse to consider female leaders – ‘Australians don’t like lady PMs’.

On the other hand, if they win, they can boast about how ‘progressive’ they are.

So, she just might be in with a chance.

Dutton’s seat was taken by a woman.

Even a bigger kick in the guts because he didn’t suppport women in high places.

Yeah, take that potato head.

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Date: 5/05/2025 14:54:18
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2279260
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

my sister’s place sold yesterday after months and months on the market,

better times ahead perhaps.

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Date: 5/05/2025 14:55:09
From: Arts
ID: 2279262
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

sarahs mum said:


my sister’s place sold yesterday after months and months on the market,

better times ahead perhaps.

you cant keep a house on the market here…

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Date: 5/05/2025 15:16:04
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2279264
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


sarahs mum said:

my sister’s place sold yesterday after months and months on the market,

better times ahead perhaps.

you cant keep a house on the market here…

wha? so in WA you are not allowed to keep a property on the market for an extended period? seriously?

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Date: 5/05/2025 15:22:31
From: Arts
ID: 2279266
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

my sister’s place sold yesterday after months and months on the market,

better times ahead perhaps.

you cant keep a house on the market here…

wha? so in WA you are not allowed to keep a property on the market for an extended period? seriously?

no I mean they sell fast at the moment

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Date: 5/05/2025 15:31:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279267
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

sarahs mum said:


my sister’s place sold yesterday after months and months on the market,

better times ahead perhaps.

Goodo.

Ex-Ross bro-in-law’s late parents’ place here in Tas is now finally on the market.

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Date: 5/05/2025 15:34:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2279268
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


diddly-squat said:

Arts said:

you cant keep a house on the market here…

wha? so in WA you are not allowed to keep a property on the market for an extended period? seriously?

no I mean they sell fast at the moment

Ah. I’d wondered, too.

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Date: 5/05/2025 15:47:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279269
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

“I never done did boo”, claims Bridget.

Nationals’ Bridget McKenzie demands retraction from Labor MP over booing claims

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-05/bridget-mckenzie-angry-over-booing-allegations-by-lisa-chesters/105252594

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Date: 5/05/2025 16:48:41
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2279274
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Comment from Mrs. Gina Rinehart AO regarding the election results.
Mrs Gina Rinehart AO:

“The left media did a very successful effort, frightening many in the Liberal Party from anything Trump and away from any Trump like policies.

This has been especially obvious this year, with the Liberals instead becoming known as the “me too” party. Trump style “make Australia great” policies via cutting government tape, government bureaucracy and wastage, and hence being able to cut taxes, too scarce in Australia this year to rate a mention.

No doubt the left media will now try to claim that the Liberal loss was because the liberal party followed Trump and became too right!

The two simply don’t add up!

Yes the loss was devastating for the Liberals, emotionally exhausting for many, disappointing and worrying for many, but important to not throw away truth and analysing skills, and instead learn from the loss and rebuild.

Too many Aussies seem very short on understanding that new investment is needed to create revenue and living standards. And hand in hand, it’s necessary to have sensible policies to attract investment in the first place, so that investment occurs and living standards, opportunities, jobs can be sustained. Shouldn’t be rocket science, but apparently it is. Somehow we now think inefficient excessively taxpayer funded gov building infrastructure, houses etc, can substitute, without consequences. One of the first things the Liberals need to do, is education, based on the old but true principles of common sense and truth.

While putting both feet into New York pre the USA November election, a known left educated, left voting, Democrat area, walking around the rubbish in streets, and more than a little concerned re safety at times, wearing my Trump hat and bag and more to attract, well, must admit I did let rotten eggs, tomatoes, slip into my mind, but hoping also to attract discussion.

And discussion it did. And what do you think those in their late 20’s and thirties were telling me, educated on left propaganda, it’s hard to get married, because they couldn’t afford homes, even rental, they were worried about their future, some were in their 30’s and worried they could never afford a family, yes, the USA birth rates have gone down. And what was I hearing from parents with young children, financially they were really struggling to cope. These previous young democrats, brought up in years of left propaganda miseducation, were becoming Republicans!

Why are Americans getting it, and we aren’t?

There are dedicated organisations working hard to bring back common sense and truth in the USA.

And it’s not just the USA where this is happening, Argentina, a socialist country for more than a century, with its people suffering terribly, Italy, Hungary and others are ahead of us too, abandoning the myths or untruths of the left, and instead letting their people benefit from the opportunities provided by the common sense and truth path.

How attractive are Paris Accord, unreliable electricity, Nature Positive Plan, big delaying expensive government tape, big high cost government, old IR policies that proved unsuccessful for productivity, but successful for strike disruption and unreliability, to attracting investment, to underpin our living standards?

Well, the Minerals Council of Australia should not be ignored, they claim, 80 percent of the resource project pipeline is now the cancelled list. I can’t help fearing this percent may be increased. Given the importance beyond just those employed in this industry, this should be very concerning to Australians.

But is it just the big companies, or the mining companies, no, smaller companies are effected too. Indeed within an hour of so of the election result being called, a friend who started her own business and is a small business owner said she’s going to close and move overseas.

I pleaded with her, please don’t go, please stay and fight for understanding of the changes Australia needs.

Australians have overwhelmingly voted in a returning the PM and Government, we must wish him well, with carefully considered policies that don’t lead us quickly to becoming an Argentina prior to the outstanding Milei. We may feel that given their overwhelming win and the huge admiration of the left media, that the chance arrogance may invade, and any effort to point out concerns for our country will be a waste of time. But isn’t that the better way ahead? Rather than just dessert our country in the years ahead. Let’s not forget, many of the returned government are parents too, do they really want to bring in idealogical policies that will see the economy suffer and their children struggle. (I’m not talking about Marxists, who indeed want to see unreliable expensive electricity, strangling government tape burdens, expensive, powerful big government, high taxes, the tried and true recipe for our businesses, homes, economy and country to be burdened and go down).

Let’s use this time to build, to enlarge the foundations of common sense, rationale and truth.

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Date: 5/05/2025 16:51:11
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2279276
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Arts said:


diddly-squat said:

Arts said:

you cant keep a house on the market here…

wha? so in WA you are not allowed to keep a property on the market for an extended period? seriously?

no I mean they sell fast at the moment

oki, I get it now

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Date: 5/05/2025 16:52:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279277
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Gina: Why are Americans getting it, and we aren’t?

Australians: Hahahahahahaha

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:35:57
From: Cymek
ID: 2279282
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:


Comment from Mrs. Gina Rinehart AO regarding the election results.
Mrs Gina Rinehart AO:

“The left media did a very successful effort, frightening many in the Liberal Party from anything Trump and away from any Trump like policies.

This has been especially obvious this year, with the Liberals instead becoming known as the “me too” party. Trump style “make Australia great” policies via cutting government tape, government bureaucracy and wastage, and hence being able to cut taxes, too scarce in Australia this year to rate a mention.

No doubt the left media will now try to claim that the Liberal loss was because the liberal party followed Trump and became too right!

The two simply don’t add up!

Yes the loss was devastating for the Liberals, emotionally exhausting for many, disappointing and worrying for many, but important to not throw away truth and analysing skills, and instead learn from the loss and rebuild.

Too many Aussies seem very short on understanding that new investment is needed to create revenue and living standards. And hand in hand, it’s necessary to have sensible policies to attract investment in the first place, so that investment occurs and living standards, opportunities, jobs can be sustained. Shouldn’t be rocket science, but apparently it is. Somehow we now think inefficient excessively taxpayer funded gov building infrastructure, houses etc, can substitute, without consequences. One of the first things the Liberals need to do, is education, based on the old but true principles of common sense and truth.

While putting both feet into New York pre the USA November election, a known left educated, left voting, Democrat area, walking around the rubbish in streets, and more than a little concerned re safety at times, wearing my Trump hat and bag and more to attract, well, must admit I did let rotten eggs, tomatoes, slip into my mind, but hoping also to attract discussion.

And discussion it did. And what do you think those in their late 20’s and thirties were telling me, educated on left propaganda, it’s hard to get married, because they couldn’t afford homes, even rental, they were worried about their future, some were in their 30’s and worried they could never afford a family, yes, the USA birth rates have gone down. And what was I hearing from parents with young children, financially they were really struggling to cope. These previous young democrats, brought up in years of left propaganda miseducation, were becoming Republicans!

Why are Americans getting it, and we aren’t?

There are dedicated organisations working hard to bring back common sense and truth in the USA.

And it’s not just the USA where this is happening, Argentina, a socialist country for more than a century, with its people suffering terribly, Italy, Hungary and others are ahead of us too, abandoning the myths or untruths of the left, and instead letting their people benefit from the opportunities provided by the common sense and truth path.

How attractive are Paris Accord, unreliable electricity, Nature Positive Plan, big delaying expensive government tape, big high cost government, old IR policies that proved unsuccessful for productivity, but successful for strike disruption and unreliability, to attracting investment, to underpin our living standards?

Well, the Minerals Council of Australia should not be ignored, they claim, 80 percent of the resource project pipeline is now the cancelled list. I can’t help fearing this percent may be increased. Given the importance beyond just those employed in this industry, this should be very concerning to Australians.

But is it just the big companies, or the mining companies, no, smaller companies are effected too. Indeed within an hour of so of the election result being called, a friend who started her own business and is a small business owner said she’s going to close and move overseas.

I pleaded with her, please don’t go, please stay and fight for understanding of the changes Australia needs.

Australians have overwhelmingly voted in a returning the PM and Government, we must wish him well, with carefully considered policies that don’t lead us quickly to becoming an Argentina prior to the outstanding Milei. We may feel that given their overwhelming win and the huge admiration of the left media, that the chance arrogance may invade, and any effort to point out concerns for our country will be a waste of time. But isn’t that the better way ahead? Rather than just dessert our country in the years ahead. Let’s not forget, many of the returned government are parents too, do they really want to bring in idealogical policies that will see the economy suffer and their children struggle. (I’m not talking about Marxists, who indeed want to see unreliable expensive electricity, strangling government tape burdens, expensive, powerful big government, high taxes, the tried and true recipe for our businesses, homes, economy and country to be burdened and go down).

Let’s use this time to build, to enlarge the foundations of common sense, rationale and truth.

I wonder if she truly believes the nonsense she spouts
She admires the USA for its ability to exploit its own people and make them believe anything else is commie

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:38:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279283
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Cymek said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Comment from Mrs. Gina Rinehart AO regarding the election results.
Mrs Gina Rinehart AO:

“The left media did a very successful effort, frightening many in the Liberal Party from anything Trump and away from any Trump like policies.

This has been especially obvious this year, with the Liberals instead becoming known as the “me too” party. Trump style “make Australia great” policies via cutting government tape, government bureaucracy and wastage, and hence being able to cut taxes, too scarce in Australia this year to rate a mention.

No doubt the left media will now try to claim that the Liberal loss was because the liberal party followed Trump and became too right!

The two simply don’t add up!

Yes the loss was devastating for the Liberals, emotionally exhausting for many, disappointing and worrying for many, but important to not throw away truth and analysing skills, and instead learn from the loss and rebuild.

Too many Aussies seem very short on understanding that new investment is needed to create revenue and living standards. And hand in hand, it’s necessary to have sensible policies to attract investment in the first place, so that investment occurs and living standards, opportunities, jobs can be sustained. Shouldn’t be rocket science, but apparently it is. Somehow we now think inefficient excessively taxpayer funded gov building infrastructure, houses etc, can substitute, without consequences. One of the first things the Liberals need to do, is education, based on the old but true principles of common sense and truth.

While putting both feet into New York pre the USA November election, a known left educated, left voting, Democrat area, walking around the rubbish in streets, and more than a little concerned re safety at times, wearing my Trump hat and bag and more to attract, well, must admit I did let rotten eggs, tomatoes, slip into my mind, but hoping also to attract discussion.

And discussion it did. And what do you think those in their late 20’s and thirties were telling me, educated on left propaganda, it’s hard to get married, because they couldn’t afford homes, even rental, they were worried about their future, some were in their 30’s and worried they could never afford a family, yes, the USA birth rates have gone down. And what was I hearing from parents with young children, financially they were really struggling to cope. These previous young democrats, brought up in years of left propaganda miseducation, were becoming Republicans!

Why are Americans getting it, and we aren’t?

There are dedicated organisations working hard to bring back common sense and truth in the USA.

And it’s not just the USA where this is happening, Argentina, a socialist country for more than a century, with its people suffering terribly, Italy, Hungary and others are ahead of us too, abandoning the myths or untruths of the left, and instead letting their people benefit from the opportunities provided by the common sense and truth path.

How attractive are Paris Accord, unreliable electricity, Nature Positive Plan, big delaying expensive government tape, big high cost government, old IR policies that proved unsuccessful for productivity, but successful for strike disruption and unreliability, to attracting investment, to underpin our living standards?

Well, the Minerals Council of Australia should not be ignored, they claim, 80 percent of the resource project pipeline is now the cancelled list. I can’t help fearing this percent may be increased. Given the importance beyond just those employed in this industry, this should be very concerning to Australians.

But is it just the big companies, or the mining companies, no, smaller companies are effected too. Indeed within an hour of so of the election result being called, a friend who started her own business and is a small business owner said she’s going to close and move overseas.

I pleaded with her, please don’t go, please stay and fight for understanding of the changes Australia needs.

Australians have overwhelmingly voted in a returning the PM and Government, we must wish him well, with carefully considered policies that don’t lead us quickly to becoming an Argentina prior to the outstanding Milei. We may feel that given their overwhelming win and the huge admiration of the left media, that the chance arrogance may invade, and any effort to point out concerns for our country will be a waste of time. But isn’t that the better way ahead? Rather than just dessert our country in the years ahead. Let’s not forget, many of the returned government are parents too, do they really want to bring in idealogical policies that will see the economy suffer and their children struggle. (I’m not talking about Marxists, who indeed want to see unreliable expensive electricity, strangling government tape burdens, expensive, powerful big government, high taxes, the tried and true recipe for our businesses, homes, economy and country to be burdened and go down).

Let’s use this time to build, to enlarge the foundations of common sense, rationale and truth.

I wonder if she truly believes the nonsense she spouts
She admires the USA for its ability to exploit its own people and make them believe anything else is commie

commie sense

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:39:59
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2279284
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Cymek said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Comment from Mrs. Gina Rinehart AO regarding the election results.
Mrs Gina Rinehart AO:

“The left media did a very successful effort, frightening many in the Liberal Party from anything Trump and away from any Trump like policies.

I wonder if she truly believes the nonsense she spouts
She admires the USA for its ability to exploit its own people and make them believe anything else is commie

I wonder which publications are part of this “left media” of which she speaks.

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:42:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279286
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Comment from Mrs. Gina Rinehart AO regarding the election results.
Mrs Gina Rinehart AO:

“The left media did a very successful effort, frightening many in the Liberal Party from anything Trump and away from any Trump like policies.

I wonder if she truly believes the nonsense she spouts
She admires the USA for its ability to exploit its own people and make them believe anything else is commie

I wonder which publications are part of this “left media” of which she speaks.

honestly we have concerns with all this because apart from a few special interest communist magazines you then have state funded media like Yousr ABC, and then you have all the other “independent” outlets who are funded privately except to be funded they have to be funded by people with money so we already know what bias is imposed on them by the funding sources

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:45:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279288
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Cymek said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Comment from Mrs. Gina Rinehart AO regarding the election results.
Mrs Gina Rinehart AO:

“The left media did a very successful effort, frightening many in the Liberal Party from anything Trump and away from any Trump like policies.

I wonder if she truly believes the nonsense she spouts
She admires the USA for its ability to exploit its own people and make them believe anything else is commie

I wonder which publications are part of this “left media” of which she speaks.

Anything not owned by Murdoch. Although she’s so far to the right she may regard Murdoch as one of the “lefty luvvies” too.

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:46:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279289
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:

Gina: Why are Americans getting it, and we aren’t?

Australians: Hahahahahahaha

^

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:47:17
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279292
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:


Comment from Mrs. Gina Rinehart AO regarding the election results.
Mrs Gina Rinehart AO:

Why are Americans getting it, and we aren’t?
.

Oh, Americans are getting it, all right.

They’re getiing it, good and proper.

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:51:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279296
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:

Arts said:

diddly-squat said:

wha? so in WA you are not allowed to keep a property on the market for an extended period? seriously?

no I mean they sell fast at the moment

Ah. I’d wondered, too.

so raise the price what is freedom when you have a market deity damn

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:52:26
From: Michael V
ID: 2279297
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


Cymek said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Comment from Mrs. Gina Rinehart AO regarding the election results.
Mrs Gina Rinehart AO:

“The left media did a very successful effort, frightening many in the Liberal Party from anything Trump and away from any Trump like policies.

I wonder if she truly believes the nonsense she spouts
She admires the USA for its ability to exploit its own people and make them believe anything else is commie

I wonder which publications are part of this “left media” of which she speaks.

I wonder whether this was in fact written by Gina R.

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:53:32
From: Cymek
ID: 2279298
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Arts said:

no I mean they sell fast at the moment

Ah. I’d wondered, too.

so raise the price what is freedom when you have a market deity damn

The first rule of acquisition

The economy must grow – all other priorities rescinded.

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:54:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279299
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

I wonder if she truly believes the nonsense she spouts
She admires the USA for its ability to exploit its own people and make them believe anything else is commie

I wonder which publications are part of this “left media” of which she speaks.

I wonder whether this was in fact written by Gina R.

It’s from her hate site website, but yes, she may have paid someone else.

https://www.ginarinehart.com.au/comment-from-mrs-gina-rinehart-ao-regarding-the-election-results/

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:55:09
From: Cymek
ID: 2279301
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

I wonder if she truly believes the nonsense she spouts
She admires the USA for its ability to exploit its own people and make them believe anything else is commie

I wonder which publications are part of this “left media” of which she speaks.

I wonder whether this was in fact written by Gina R.

Would people want to go down to path of a USA citizen
I can’t see anything appealing about living there.
You would have to come from a real hole to consider it as a viable alternative.

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:59:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279303
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

WAGs Escape Kitchen To Almost Govern In Outright Majority

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-05/record-number-women-elected-australian-parliament/105254048

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Date: 5/05/2025 17:59:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279304
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:

I wonder whether this was in fact written by Gina R.

“Throgmorton, have an underling pen something suitably dismissive of Labor, they people who vote for them, the Australian population in general, and anyone who doesn’t worship Trump.”

“At once, madam.”

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Date: 5/05/2025 18:00:25
From: buffy
ID: 2279305
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I wonder which publications are part of this “left media” of which she speaks.

I wonder whether this was in fact written by Gina R.

It’s from her hate site website, but yes, she may have paid someone else.

https://www.ginarinehart.com.au/comment-from-mrs-gina-rinehart-ao-regarding-the-election-results/

It’s not very well written, she didn’t get her money’s worth if she paid a writer.

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Date: 5/05/2025 18:01:01
From: Michael V
ID: 2279306
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Comment from Mrs. Gina Rinehart AO regarding the election results.
Mrs Gina Rinehart AO:

Why are Americans getting it, and we aren’t?
.

Oh, Americans are getting it, all right.

They’re getting it, good and proper.

Poor buggers.

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Date: 5/05/2025 18:01:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279308
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Cymek said:

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I wonder which publications are part of this “left media” of which she speaks.

I wonder whether this was in fact written by Gina R.

Would people want to go down to path of a USA citizen
I can’t see anything appealing about living there.
You would have to come from a real hole to consider it as a viable alternative.

same as all those other human trafficking modern slavery scams, they lure you with promises of riches and glory and freedom and then

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Date: 5/05/2025 18:02:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279310
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

I wonder whether this was in fact written by Gina R.

It’s from her hate site website, but yes, she may have paid someone else.

https://www.ginarinehart.com.au/comment-from-mrs-gina-rinehart-ao-regarding-the-election-results/

It’s not very well written, she didn’t get her money’s worth if she paid a writer.

Misuse of “effected” for example.

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Date: 5/05/2025 18:02:52
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2279311
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Comment from Mrs. Gina Rinehart AO regarding the election results.
Mrs Gina Rinehart AO:

Why are Americans getting it, and we aren’t?
.

Oh, Americans are getting it, all right.

They’re getiing it, good and proper.

they don’t like the big tariff up ‘em

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Date: 5/05/2025 18:04:17
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2279312
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

I wonder if she truly believes the nonsense she spouts
She admires the USA for its ability to exploit its own people and make them believe anything else is commie

I wonder which publications are part of this “left media” of which she speaks.

I wonder whether this was in fact written by Gina R.

I should have attributed it

https://www.ginarinehart.com.au/comment-from-mrs-gina-rinehart-ao-regarding-the-election-results/

Link

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Date: 5/05/2025 18:04:39
From: Michael V
ID: 2279313
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I wonder which publications are part of this “left media” of which she speaks.

I wonder whether this was in fact written by Gina R.

It’s from her hate site website, but yes, she may have paid someone else.

https://www.ginarinehart.com.au/comment-from-mrs-gina-rinehart-ao-regarding-the-election-results/

Thanks.

I couldn’t be bothered checking.

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Date: 5/05/2025 18:06:43
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2279317
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

I wonder whether this was in fact written by Gina R.

It’s from her hate site website, but yes, she may have paid someone else.

https://www.ginarinehart.com.au/comment-from-mrs-gina-rinehart-ao-regarding-the-election-results/

It’s not very well written, she didn’t get her money’s worth if she paid a writer.

I thought that as well. bit of a rant on grievances really.

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Date: 5/05/2025 18:08:37
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2279319
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s from her hate site website, but yes, she may have paid someone else.

https://www.ginarinehart.com.au/comment-from-mrs-gina-rinehart-ao-regarding-the-election-results/

It’s not very well written, she didn’t get her money’s worth if she paid a writer.

I thought that as well. bit of a rant on grievances really.

I guess she’s not using Twitter to air grievances then.

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Date: 5/05/2025 20:32:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279357
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

I wonder if she truly believes the nonsense she spouts
She admires the USA for its ability to exploit its own people and make them believe anything else is commie

I wonder which publications are part of this “left media” of which she speaks.

honestly we have concerns with all this because apart from a few special interest communist magazines you then have state funded media like Yousr ABC, and then you have all the other “independent” outlets who are funded privately except to be funded they have to be funded by people with money so we already know what bias is imposed on them by the funding sources

Just like Trump getting rid of the public broadcasters, she wants the ABC to be shut down too.

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Date: 5/05/2025 20:33:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279358
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Gina: Why are Americans getting it, and we aren’t?

Australians: Hahahahahahaha

^

Getting poverty and shootings and Trump.

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Date: 5/05/2025 21:20:00
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2279364
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

has it been done?

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Date: 5/05/2025 21:23:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279366
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

sarahs mum said:


has it been done?


I’ve not seen it yet, ta.

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Date: 5/05/2025 21:29:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279367
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

has it been done?


I’ve not seen it yet, ta.

Heh. …battle to find the least worst unelectable dunderhead to lead the radioactive remnants of the Liberal Party.

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Date: 5/05/2025 21:31:45
From: dv
ID: 2279370
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 5/05/2025 21:38:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279375
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Anyway,

Australia will be represented by more women in federal parliament than ever before, after Saturday’s election saw voters choose a series of women over men.

The ABC is projecting the number of women in the House of Representatives will grow by at least five and as many as 16.

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Date: 6/05/2025 08:10:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279426
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

oh deity that Bandt fella is in a dam lot of trouble

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Date: 6/05/2025 08:18:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279428
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

..again.

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Date: 6/05/2025 08:59:08
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279432
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


..again.

clears throat ..ahem…ahem…OK, i’m ready now. Here goes:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Date: 6/05/2025 09:08:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279434
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

..again.

clears throat ..ahem…ahem…OK, i’m ready now. Here goes:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

nice

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Date: 6/05/2025 09:18:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279436
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

..again.

clears throat ..ahem…ahem…OK, i’m ready now. Here goes:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

nice

It’s the waste of money that appals me.

$60 million. Clive and me could have taken that money the Gold Coast, had a great time, casinos, the best booze, hookers, drugs, limos, boats, helicopters, parties, BBQs, you name it, one hell of a blow-out.

But, no, 60 mikes down the toilet, in pursuit of some stupid pipe-dream.

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Date: 6/05/2025 09:23:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279438
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

clears throat ..ahem…ahem…OK, i’m ready now. Here goes:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

nice

It’s the waste of money that appals me.

$60 million. Clive and me could have taken that money the Gold Coast, had a great time, casinos, the best booze, hookers, drugs, limos, boats, helicopters, parties, BBQs, you name it, one hell of a blow-out.

But, no, 60 mikes down the toilet, in pursuit of some stupid pipe-dream.

Horrifying isn’t it.
Just imagine the fun we could have had with that?

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Date: 6/05/2025 09:24:39
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279440
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

nice

It’s the waste of money that appals me.

$60 million. Clive and me could have taken that money the Gold Coast, had a great time, casinos, the best booze, hookers, drugs, limos, boats, helicopters, parties, BBQs, you name it, one hell of a blow-out.

But, no, 60 mikes down the toilet, in pursuit of some stupid pipe-dream.

Horrifying isn’t it.
Just imagine the fun we could have had with that?

I doubt that you can imagine the fun that i can imagine.

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Date: 6/05/2025 09:26:16
From: btm
ID: 2279443
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

clears throat ..ahem…ahem…OK, i’m ready now. Here goes:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

nice

It’s the waste of money that appals me.

$60 million. Clive and me could have taken that money the Gold Coast, had a great time, casinos, the best booze, hookers, drugs, limos, boats, helicopters, parties, BBQs, you name it, one hell of a blow-out.

But, no, 60 mikes down the toilet, in pursuit of some stupid pipe-dream.

Or, y’know, he might have paid the workers what he owed them.

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Date: 6/05/2025 09:27:35
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279444
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

btm said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

nice

It’s the waste of money that appals me.

$60 million. Clive and me could have taken that money the Gold Coast, had a great time, casinos, the best booze, hookers, drugs, limos, boats, helicopters, parties, BBQs, you name it, one hell of a blow-out.

But, no, 60 mikes down the toilet, in pursuit of some stupid pipe-dream.

Or, y’know, he might have paid the workers what he owed them.

Now you’re just being silly.

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Date: 6/05/2025 09:27:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279445
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

It’s the waste of money that appals me.

$60 million. Clive and me could have taken that money the Gold Coast, had a great time, casinos, the best booze, hookers, drugs, limos, boats, helicopters, parties, BBQs, you name it, one hell of a blow-out.

But, no, 60 mikes down the toilet, in pursuit of some stupid pipe-dream.

Horrifying isn’t it.
Just imagine the fun we could have had with that?

I doubt that you can imagine the fun that i can imagine.

Just as you’d find yourself scratching your head as to mine. ;)

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Date: 6/05/2025 09:32:26
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2279449
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

btm said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

nice

It’s the waste of money that appals me.

$60 million. Clive and me could have taken that money the Gold Coast, had a great time, casinos, the best booze, hookers, drugs, limos, boats, helicopters, parties, BBQs, you name it, one hell of a blow-out.

But, no, 60 mikes down the toilet, in pursuit of some stupid pipe-dream.

Or, y’know, he might have paid the workers what he owed them.

pffft they would have just wasted it on casinos, the best booze, hookers, drugs, limos, boats, helicopters, parties, BBQs

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Date: 6/05/2025 11:02:53
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2279481
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Outgoing LNP dude on the radio this morning, missed his name. The hosts talked about the post-mortem going on in the Libs room since Saturday night. The dude said he wasn’t at liberty to talk about details, but reiterated policies like nuclear was the only way forward and the Australian people just didn’t see that on the day.

Methinks they need a little more self reflection.

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Date: 6/05/2025 11:05:31
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279482
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

ABC News:

Is that Ronnie Corbett in the white shirt?

“I’ll tell you about the election in WA, no, not that election, you’ve heard that one, the last election, my wife says i’m always getting my elections mixed up,…”

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Date: 6/05/2025 11:05:50
From: Tamb
ID: 2279484
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Outgoing LNP dude on the radio this morning, missed his name. The hosts talked about the post-mortem going on in the Libs room since Saturday night. The dude said he wasn’t at liberty to talk about details, but reiterated policies like nuclear was the only way forward and the Australian people just didn’t see that on the day.

Methinks they need a little more self reflection.


Possibly, in their case, self reflection transmutes into narcissism.

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Date: 6/05/2025 11:12:53
From: Ian
ID: 2279487
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 6/05/2025 11:15:11
From: Michael V
ID: 2279488
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

btm said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

nice

It’s the waste of money that appals me.

$60 million. Clive and me could have taken that money the Gold Coast, had a great time, casinos, the best booze, hookers, drugs, limos, boats, helicopters, parties, BBQs, you name it, one hell of a blow-out.

But, no, 60 mikes down the toilet, in pursuit of some stupid pipe-dream.

Or, y’know, he might have paid the workers what he owed them.

Yes. Yes he could’ve.

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Date: 6/05/2025 11:19:38
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2279491
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Protest march in Brisbane this weekend outside Labor HQ.

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Date: 6/05/2025 11:22:42
From: Michael V
ID: 2279492
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Outgoing LNP dude on the radio this morning, missed his name. The hosts talked about the post-mortem going on in the Libs room since Saturday night. The dude said he wasn’t at liberty to talk about details, but reiterated policies like nuclear was the only way forward and the Australian people just didn’t see that on the day.

Methinks they need a little more self reflection.

Heh!

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Date: 6/05/2025 11:25:52
From: Michael V
ID: 2279494
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Protest march in Brisbane this weekend outside Labor HQ.


Who are the organisers?

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Date: 6/05/2025 11:42:22
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2279499
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Protest march in Brisbane this weekend outside Labor HQ.


Who are the organisers?

Ah crap, can’t find it now.

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Date: 6/05/2025 11:45:11
From: dv
ID: 2279500
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 6/05/2025 11:49:49
From: Michael V
ID: 2279503
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Protest march in Brisbane this weekend outside Labor HQ.


Who are the organisers?

Ah crap, can’t find it now.

Ah well.

I won’t be going anyway.

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Date: 6/05/2025 11:52:40
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2279505
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:



Why are the Dockers so involved with Jennifer Lopez?

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Date: 6/05/2025 12:25:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279519
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:

dv said:


Why are the Dockers so involved with Jennifer Lopez?

here’s hoping the losers really do go and seek asylum in the USSA, we all know what kkk thinks of losers

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Date: 6/05/2025 13:30:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279533
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

In short:

Climate-200 backed independent Kate Hulett, who has vowed to “rage” against new gas projects, may be elected thanks to Liberal preferences.

One of the candidate’s advisers was among those fined for trespassing on Woodside CEO Meg O’Neill’s home in 2023.
What’s next?

Counting for the seat of Fremantle continues. ABC election talk

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Date: 6/05/2025 13:35:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279534
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

finally someone with common sense to solve the problem of oversupplied central office real estate in a working from home era

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-06/town-hall-square-new-plaza-sydney-cbd-woolworths-future/105233786

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Date: 6/05/2025 13:44:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279537
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

wait you wait what

But she also says used EVs typically have much better battery capacity than consumers expect. “There’s a big discrepancy with what people think and what the actuality is,” Dr Broadbent says. Manufacturing warranties typically guarantee that an EV battery will retain at least 70 per cent of its original charge over eight to 10 years. Most cars outperform this warranty. This is partially due to the way that battery performance is tested. Lab-based tests completely discharge and recharge batteries on a frequent cycle to see how they retain their charge. “Whereas in real life … car manufacturers recommend that people keep the battery somewhere between 20 per cent and 80 per cent,” Dr Broadbent says. This keeps the battery in much better shape.

oh we thought the politicians were telling us that rock oil was better, battery was shit, battery bad, battery no range, battery no resale

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2025-05-06/electric-vehicles-secondhand-regulations-evs-battery-performance/105177202

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Date: 6/05/2025 13:45:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2279538
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

finally someone with common sense to solve the problem of oversupplied central office real estate in a working from home era

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-06/town-hall-square-new-plaza-sydney-cbd-woolworths-future/105233786

If only Sydney had a tree lined pedestrian precinct.

Although I have to admit, the new one does look rather grander, if lacking in old sandstone facades.

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Date: 6/05/2025 13:50:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279539
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Economist urges Labor to follow in footsteps of Curtin and Hawke with ambitious reform

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Date: 6/05/2025 14:54:01
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279550
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

finally someone with common sense to solve the problem of oversupplied central office real estate in a working from home era

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-06/town-hall-square-new-plaza-sydney-cbd-woolworths-future/105233786

Will make no difference at all to the over-supply of office space.

The buildings to be demolished are disused/out-dated/under-occupied retail premises.

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Date: 6/05/2025 14:58:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279551
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

finally someone with common sense to solve the problem of oversupplied central office real estate in a working from home era

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-06/town-hall-square-new-plaza-sydney-cbd-woolworths-future/105233786

Will make no difference at all to the over-supply of office space.

The buildings to be demolished are disused/out-dated/under-occupied retail premises.

You are sounding a lot like Joh Bjelke-Petersen. ;)

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Date: 6/05/2025 15:07:28
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2279552
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

finally someone with common sense to solve the problem of oversupplied central office real estate in a working from home era

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-06/town-hall-square-new-plaza-sydney-cbd-woolworths-future/105233786

Will make no difference at all to the over-supply of office space.

The buildings to be demolished are disused/out-dated/under-occupied retail premises.

You are sounding a lot like Joh Bjelke-Petersen. ;)

Don’t you worry about that.

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Date: 6/05/2025 15:10:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279553
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Will make no difference at all to the over-supply of office space.

The buildings to be demolished are disused/out-dated/under-occupied retail premises.

You are sounding a lot like Joh Bjelke-Petersen. ;)

Don’t you worry about that.

:)

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Date: 6/05/2025 15:16:56
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2279554
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Based on primary voting, the LNP member is about 900 votes ahead, but Labor grabbed the seat thanks to preferences.

Having a squiz at LNP fb page, the comments are interesting. Many expressing thanks for all he’s done over the years, some giving advice as to where the LNP went wrong, a few waiting for pre-polls and postal votes, and the usual trolls.

The incoming Labor member’s fb page has far fewer comments. All congratulations except one.

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Date: 6/05/2025 15:21:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279557
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:

Economist urges Labor to follow in footsteps of Curtin and Hawke with ambitious reform

so they’re going to tax us more

“One of the good things we have going for us in Australia at the moment is the government starts its second term with the unemployment rate very low, with inflation … almost where the Reserve Bank wants it to be,” she told the ABC. “That’s a really encouraging starting point for us.”

and guaranteed to fk things up since the only way to go is down

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Date: 6/05/2025 15:59:48
From: buffy
ID: 2279577
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Here are the results for my polling station. It’s quite a small station.

Link

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Date: 6/05/2025 16:02:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279579
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Here are the results for my polling station. It’s quite a small station.

Link

The swing to Labor missed your corner emphatically.

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Date: 6/05/2025 16:08:48
From: buffy
ID: 2279583
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

In the Wannon electorate, the places more South (along the coast, Portland, Warrnambool, Anglesea) and East were more into Alex Dyson than the farmers in the North and West. Looking at the percentages. The more Northern parts are more sparsely populated and I’d say an older population too.

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Date: 6/05/2025 16:08:51
From: Tamb
ID: 2279584
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Here are the results for my polling station. It’s quite a small station.

Link


Looks like a win for the leadership-less Liberals.

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Date: 6/05/2025 16:12:23
From: buffy
ID: 2279586
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Tamb said:


buffy said:

Here are the results for my polling station. It’s quite a small station.

Link


Looks like a win for the leadership-less Liberals.

Let’s say Dan Tehan hasn’t shown much leadership around here. His campaign was almost entirely saying bad things about Alex Dyson without offering a skerick of information about what his mob planned for the future. I know from talking to people in the Dyson camp that they had a strict rule of not saying nasty things.

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Date: 6/05/2025 18:23:05
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2279619
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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Date: 6/05/2025 18:26:15
From: ruby
ID: 2279621
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

https://theshovel.com.au/2025/05/06/liberal-wipeout-leaves-white-men-without-voice-to-parliament/

In a spectacular repudiation of Liberal Party values, Australians voted overwhelmingly last Saturday to deny privileged, white men a Voice to Parliament.

All six states and both territories returned a decisive “No” vote against the Liberal Party, even in the affluent suburbs of Melbourne and Sydney, which were once considered reliable strongholds for the pro-white establishment.

The crushing No vote has broken the hearts of thousands of the Liberal Party elite, who had always believed they had an unassailable right, assigned at birth, to sit in the nation’s parliament and stride the corridors of power.

But Saturday’s wipeout, spearheaded by the former Opposition Leader Peter Dutton, now leaves wealthy, old, white men with no formal Voice to advise or consult on legislation that directly affects their white communities.

“It’s heartbreaking” said the shadow treasurer Angus Taylor. “This election was held as a direct response to our Vaucluse Golf Club Statement From the Heart. We weren’t asking for any special treatment or handouts. We simply wanted the chance to be heard on issues relevant to our culture, such as increased franking credits and more funding for private schools.”

The decimation of the Liberal Party ranks at the ballot box has not only left entitled, white men with no Voice to Parliament, but has also ignited a wider debate about the country’s treatment of white Australians.

“We give these whitefellas everything,” said indigenous leader Marcia Langton. “They go to the best schools, get the best jobs, get the best stock tips. We even teach them how to avoid paying tax, and how to avoid jail-time if they ever get done for corporate fraud. So they’ve had every advantage in the world, and they still lose the election! I mean, what more could we possibly do for them?!”

Ms Langton speculated that perhaps some white people just don’t want to be helped. She has offered to help organise a tent city on the lawns of Parliament House to house the scores of displaced Liberal MPs who lost their seat in the election.

Peter Dutton has proposed a National Sorry Day, to personally apologise to all the privileged, white men who lost their seats under his leadership. However it’s still unclear whether Mr Dutton will boycott his own apology.

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Date: 6/05/2025 18:30:53
From: Michael V
ID: 2279623
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

ruby said:

https://theshovel.com.au/2025/05/06/liberal-wipeout-leaves-white-men-without-voice-to-parliament/

In a spectacular repudiation of Liberal Party values, Australians voted overwhelmingly last Saturday to deny privileged, white men a Voice to Parliament.

All six states and both territories returned a decisive “No” vote against the Liberal Party, even in the affluent suburbs of Melbourne and Sydney, which were once considered reliable strongholds for the pro-white establishment.

The crushing No vote has broken the hearts of thousands of the Liberal Party elite, who had always believed they had an unassailable right, assigned at birth, to sit in the nation’s parliament and stride the corridors of power.

But Saturday’s wipeout, spearheaded by the former Opposition Leader Peter Dutton, now leaves wealthy, old, white men with no formal Voice to advise or consult on legislation that directly affects their white communities.

“It’s heartbreaking” said the shadow treasurer Angus Taylor. “This election was held as a direct response to our Vaucluse Golf Club Statement From the Heart. We weren’t asking for any special treatment or handouts. We simply wanted the chance to be heard on issues relevant to our culture, such as increased franking credits and more funding for private schools.”

The decimation of the Liberal Party ranks at the ballot box has not only left entitled, white men with no Voice to Parliament, but has also ignited a wider debate about the country’s treatment of white Australians.

“We give these whitefellas everything,” said indigenous leader Marcia Langton. “They go to the best schools, get the best jobs, get the best stock tips. We even teach them how to avoid paying tax, and how to avoid jail-time if they ever get done for corporate fraud. So they’ve had every advantage in the world, and they still lose the election! I mean, what more could we possibly do for them?!”

Ms Langton speculated that perhaps some white people just don’t want to be helped. She has offered to help organise a tent city on the lawns of Parliament House to house the scores of displaced Liberal MPs who lost their seat in the election.

Peter Dutton has proposed a National Sorry Day, to personally apologise to all the privileged, white men who lost their seats under his leadership. However it’s still unclear whether Mr Dutton will boycott his own apology.

LOLOLOL

:)

Very clever satirical writing.

:)

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Date: 6/05/2025 18:44:17
From: dv
ID: 2279630
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Range of seat outcomes at the moment for Labor seems to be from 88 to 92 out of 150, which will certainly be their highest seatcount in absolute terms (their previous best being 1987 under Hawke, 86 from 148 seats).

It is also a historically high mark in terms of % of seats (something like 59% to 61%).

The previous top 5 by that measure:

1943 49 out of 74 (66%) Curtin

1929 46 out of 75 (61%) Scullin

1983 75 out of 125 (60%) Hawke

1987 86 out of 148 (58%) Hawke

1946 43 out of 74 (58%) Chifley

This also appears to be the first time a government has got a better result in their second election than in their first.

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Date: 6/05/2025 19:10:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279641
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


…..This also appears to be the first time a government has got a better result in their second election than in their first.

That in itself is rather surprising.

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Date: 6/05/2025 19:54:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279648
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

…..This also appears to be the first time a government has got a better result in their second election than in their first.

That in itself is rather surprising.

can’t wait for the 3rd then

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Date: 6/05/2025 20:02:30
From: party_pants
ID: 2279650
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

…..This also appears to be the first time a government has got a better result in their second election than in their first.

That in itself is rather surprising.

Yes, it is normally the case that a new government wins in a landslide and then slowly loses a few seats at each subsequent election until finally the electorate has had enough of them and swings hard to elect a new mob.

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Date: 6/05/2025 20:15:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279658
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

…..This also appears to be the first time a government has got a better result in their second election than in their first.

That in itself is rather surprising.

Yes, it is normally the case that a new government wins in a landslide and then slowly loses a few seats at each subsequent election until finally the electorate has had enough of them and swings hard to elect a new mob.

Only in team sports, we mean why can’t a new landslide government use its mandate to dramatically improve the standard of living for all residents and thereby gain even more momentum in a sheer avalanche of neutron degeneracy collapse until the government is a singularity from which there is no realistic escape and the country is an eternal utopia¿

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Date: 6/05/2025 20:17:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279660
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

good news the disruptors are getting ditched and corruption is the order of the day

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-06/goldstein-federal-election-2025-tim-wilson-zoe-daniel/105260056

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Date: 6/05/2025 20:22:04
From: party_pants
ID: 2279662
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

So did Clive Palmer, the Patron of Arse-Trumpets achieve the necessary 4% primary vote to get public funding in any of the seats they stood in?

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Date: 6/05/2025 20:28:29
From: Woodie
ID: 2279663
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


So did Clive Palmer, the Patron of Arse-Trumpets achieve the necessary 4% primary vote to get public funding in any of the seats they stood in?

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Date: 6/05/2025 20:56:02
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2279664
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

…..This also appears to be the first time a government has got a better result in their second election than in their first.

That in itself is rather surprising.

Yes, it is normally the case that a new government wins in a landslide and then slowly loses a few seats at each subsequent election until finally the electorate has had enough of them and swings hard to elect a new mob.

The first Bracks minority government elected in 1999 performed so well in their second election in 2002 that Labor was able to reform the gerrymandered Victorian Legislative Council

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Date: 6/05/2025 21:01:28
From: party_pants
ID: 2279665
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

That in itself is rather surprising.

Yes, it is normally the case that a new government wins in a landslide and then slowly loses a few seats at each subsequent election until finally the electorate has had enough of them and swings hard to elect a new mob.

The first Bracks minority government elected in 1999 performed so well in their second election in 2002 that Labor was able to reform the gerrymandered Victorian Legislative Council

I was assuming this was referring to the Federal scene only.

During the Covid pandemic the McGowan Labor government in WA was re-elected with a stonking great majority at their second election. So it has happened at least twice at state level.

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Date: 6/05/2025 21:06:51
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2279666
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Yes, it is normally the case that a new government wins in a landslide and then slowly loses a few seats at each subsequent election until finally the electorate has had enough of them and swings hard to elect a new mob.

The first Bracks minority government elected in 1999 performed so well in their second election in 2002 that Labor was able to reform the gerrymandered Victorian Legislative Council

I was assuming this was referring to the Federal scene only.

During the Covid pandemic the McGowan Labor government in WA was re-elected with a stonking great majority at their second election. So it has happened at least twice at state level.

Yeah DV was referring to federal elections. I was more just supplying interesting examples at the state level.

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Date: 6/05/2025 21:19:48
From: dv
ID: 2279667
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

On election night and the following morn it appeared the Greens might slightly increase their vote share, despite their seats being at risk.

It doesn’t look like that now, and it looks like they’ve gone from 12.3% to 11.8%.

Still it’s not a big change and What’s really killing them is that they aren’t catching as many preferences as they used to.

In Melbourne, Adam Bandt got 40.6% and ALP’s Sarah Witty got 31.5%. Normally you would think that’s a slam dunk for the Greens to win from there as they only need about 33% of the preferences.

They are only getting about 25% of the preferences, in this Lefty seat.

They have enjoyed a swing towards in Wills and Fraser, though not enough to win the seats.

If Bandt does indeed lose then they’ll probably be down to 1 seat in the HoR, which will at least make it easy to choose parliamentary leader.

Still seems it will be a par result for them in the Senate.

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Date: 6/05/2025 21:21:24
From: dv
ID: 2279668
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

…..This also appears to be the first time a government has got a better result in their second election than in their first.

That in itself is rather surprising.

Yes, it is normally the case that a new government wins in a landslide and then slowly loses a few seats at each subsequent election until finally the electorate has had enough of them and swings hard to elect a new mob.

An unkind person might observe that this makes Dutton’s failure more stark

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Date: 6/05/2025 21:33:03
From: buffy
ID: 2279669
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael McCormack is unhappy with informal voters

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Date: 6/05/2025 21:35:52
From: party_pants
ID: 2279670
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

That in itself is rather surprising.

Yes, it is normally the case that a new government wins in a landslide and then slowly loses a few seats at each subsequent election until finally the electorate has had enough of them and swings hard to elect a new mob.

An unkind person might observe that this makes Dutton’s failure more stark

Yes. Upon reflection it seems to have been a dreadful campaign.

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Date: 6/05/2025 21:37:17
From: tauto
ID: 2279671
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

I still find it hard to fathom that this is the same electorates that chose Abbott in 2013 and Morrison in 2018. Swinging voters must not follow politics too closely.

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Date: 6/05/2025 21:38:50
From: buffy
ID: 2279673
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

tauto said:


I still find it hard to fathom that this is the same electorates that chose Abbott in 2013 and Morrison in 2018. Swinging voters must not follow politics too closely.

There have been some redistributions. But I’m not sure how much.

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Date: 6/05/2025 21:44:39
From: party_pants
ID: 2279674
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

tauto said:


I still find it hard to fathom that this is the same electorates that chose Abbott in 2013 and Morrison in 2018. Swinging voters must not follow politics too closely.

The electorate has changed. The parties have changed. Lots of boomers and older generations have passed away since 2013, in this election Gen Y and Gen Z voters outnumber Boomers. The ALP of today is not the same rabble of Rudd vs Gillard that it was in 2013. Kevin Rudd’s greatest legacy to Australia and the ALP was an Abbott government.

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Date: 6/05/2025 21:45:35
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2279675
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


tauto said:

I still find it hard to fathom that this is the same electorates that chose Abbott in 2013 and Morrison in 2018. Swinging voters must not follow politics too closely.

There have been some redistributions. But I’m not sure how much.

Also additions of young people and departure of old people.

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Date: 6/05/2025 21:48:07
From: dv
ID: 2279676
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

tauto said:


I still find it hard to fathom that this is the same electorates that chose Abbott in 2013 and Morrison in 2018. Swinging voters must not follow politics too closely.

I mean it isn’t. A couple of million people have died since 2013, mostly older people. About 3 million people have reached voting age. Millions of people have emigrated or immigrated.

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Date: 6/05/2025 21:54:45
From: tauto
ID: 2279677
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


tauto said:

I still find it hard to fathom that this is the same electorates that chose Abbott in 2013 and Morrison in 2018. Swinging voters must not follow politics too closely.

The electorate has changed. The parties have changed. Lots of boomers and older generations have passed away since 2013, in this election Gen Y and Gen Z voters outnumber Boomers. The ALP of today is not the same rabble of Rudd vs Gillard that it was in 2013. Kevin Rudd’s greatest legacy to Australia and the ALP was an Abbott government.

-

Ah yes, stability. Albo is like Howard’ in that they both were long term politicians before they were chosen. They both were overlooked as leadership material, early on. They both had seen the successes and mistakes of previous government’s and learnt from it.

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Date: 6/05/2025 22:01:59
From: dv
ID: 2279678
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Greens as I said did alright in Wills in primaries but again they got a small chunk of the preferences, even though it is a lefty division.

Socialists got 8% of primaries but directed preferences to Labor AND Liberals over Greens.

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Date: 6/05/2025 22:05:45
From: party_pants
ID: 2279679
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Greens as I said did alright in Wills in primaries but again they got a small chunk of the preferences, even though it is a lefty division.

Socialists got 8% of primaries but directed preferences to Labor AND Liberals over Greens.


huh?

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Date: 6/05/2025 22:12:16
From: Woodie
ID: 2279680
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Greens as I said did alright in Wills in primaries but again they got a small chunk of the preferences, even though it is a lefty division.

Socialists got 8% of primaries but directed preferences to Labor AND Liberals over Greens.


Not on the ballot they didn’t. No 2 Samantha Ratnam. The Greens

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Date: 6/05/2025 22:46:31
From: Michael V
ID: 2279683
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


So did Clive Palmer, the Patron of Arse-Trumpets achieve the necessary 4% primary vote to get public funding in any of the seats they stood in?

Embarrassingly, I think that they got there in our seat (Wide Bay).

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Date: 6/05/2025 22:49:49
From: Michael V
ID: 2279684
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Michael McCormack is unhappy with informal voters

He has his opinion. They used theirs.

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Date: 6/05/2025 22:58:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2279685
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

So did Clive Palmer, the Patron of Arse-Trumpets achieve the necessary 4% primary vote to get public funding in any of the seats they stood in?

Embarrassingly, I think that they got there in our seat (Wide Bay).

Yair. 4.17%

https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionPage-31496-178.htm

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Date: 6/05/2025 22:59:27
From: party_pants
ID: 2279686
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Michael McCormack is unhappy with informal voters

He has his opinion. They used theirs.

I wonder what sort of informal vote they were. Was it simply a case of too many people not filling out the ballot form correctly, or was it people actively writing something like “none of these bastards are worthy” or just drawing a cock and balls on it? Was it a passive or an active informal ballot.

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Date: 6/05/2025 23:04:46
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2279688
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

How accurate was the final polling DV? I thought it was kind to the Coalition on the night but IIRC the Thursday poll of someone out another picked the swing. Personally I think the flirtation with national curriculum culture wars in the final days was the straw that broke the camel’s back of the swinging voter.

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Date: 7/05/2025 00:50:01
From: dv
ID: 2279696
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


How accurate was the final polling DV? I thought it was kind to the Coalition on the night but IIRC the Thursday poll of someone out another picked the swing. Personally I think the flirtation with national curriculum culture wars in the final days was the straw that broke the camel’s back of the swinging voter.

Pretty shit, on aggregate. They predicted a 5% margin but it’s going to be more like 10%.

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Date: 7/05/2025 00:50:34
From: dv
ID: 2279697
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

party_pants said:


dv said:

Greens as I said did alright in Wills in primaries but again they got a small chunk of the preferences, even though it is a lefty division.

Socialists got 8% of primaries but directed preferences to Labor AND Liberals over Greens.


huh?

Can you ask this question in somewhat longer form?

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Date: 7/05/2025 01:08:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279699
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

Greens as I said did alright in Wills in primaries but again they got a small chunk of the preferences, even though it is a lefty division.

Socialists got 8% of primaries but directed preferences to Labor AND Liberals over Greens.


huh?

Can you ask this question in somewhat longer form?

Doesn’t the Green score preference 2 there?

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Date: 7/05/2025 01:12:34
From: dv
ID: 2279700
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

party_pants said:

huh?

Can you ask this question in somewhat longer form?

Doesn’t the Green score preference 2 there?

Brain failure on my part, cheers

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Date: 7/05/2025 02:30:38
From: dv
ID: 2279703
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Does seem as though Tim Wilson of the Libs has won back Goldstein at the expense of independent Zoe Daniel.

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Date: 7/05/2025 02:31:58
From: kii
ID: 2279704
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

How accurate was the final polling DV? I thought it was kind to the Coalition on the night but IIRC the Thursday poll of someone out another picked the swing. Personally I think the flirtation with national curriculum culture wars in the final days was the straw that broke the camel’s back of the swinging voter.

Pretty shit, on aggregate. They predicted a 5% margin but it’s going to be more like 10%.

That’s amazingly fantastic.

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Date: 7/05/2025 16:04:12
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2279833
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

and two leaders now bite the dust.. Adam Bant has officially lost the seat of Melbourne.

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Date: 7/05/2025 16:12:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279838
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


and two leaders now bite the dust.. Adam Bant has officially lost the seat of Melbourne.

Not surprising really.

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Date: 7/05/2025 16:20:38
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2279841
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


diddly-squat said:

and two leaders now bite the dust.. Adam Bant has officially lost the seat of Melbourne.

Not surprising really.

NGL, I’m a bit happy to be honest

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Date: 7/05/2025 17:04:08
From: dv
ID: 2279850
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

For the life of me, I will never understand why these people are so salty. You make 4 million dollars a day purely in passive income. Had a magic carpet ride your whole life. If you can’t bring yourself to make the world a better place then maybe just sit back, relax and enjoy life rather than blowing an o-ring at the idea that someone somewhere might get things a little easier.

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Date: 7/05/2025 17:06:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279852
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


For the life of me, I will never understand why these people are so salty. You make 4 million dollars a day purely in passive income. Had a magic carpet ride your whole life. If you can’t bring yourself to make the world a better place then maybe just sit back, relax and enjoy life rather than blowing an o-ring at the idea that someone somewhere might get things a little easier.

There is evil in the world, and they are glad.

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Date: 7/05/2025 17:11:12
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2279854
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


For the life of me, I will never understand why these people are so salty. You make 4 million dollars a day purely in passive income. Had a magic carpet ride your whole life. If you can’t bring yourself to make the world a better place then maybe just sit back, relax and enjoy life rather than blowing an o-ring at the idea that someone somewhere might get things a little easier.

I think in large parts very wealthy people seek power and influence and politics is the ultimate game of power and influence. This notwithstanding, people like Gina also want to be able to influence policy makers in a manner that best aligns with their goals of increasing their wealth.

Power, influence and money are all pretty big motivators

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Date: 7/05/2025 17:16:49
From: dv
ID: 2279855
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

diddly-squat said:


and two leaders now bite the dust.. Adam Bant has officially lost the seat of Melbourne.

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Date: 7/05/2025 17:23:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279856
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

For the life of me, I will never understand why these people are so salty. You make 4 million dollars a day purely in passive income. Had a magic carpet ride your whole life. If you can’t bring yourself to make the world a better place then maybe just sit back, relax and enjoy life rather than blowing an o-ring at the idea that someone somewhere might get things a little easier.

There is evil in the world, and they are glad.

maybe all that and so forth but why are we complaining about the fascists telling the truth about the communists telling the truth

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Date: 7/05/2025 18:07:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2279869
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

First Melbourne, soon enough Australia will be run by a Witty: I will get the wall and firing squad ready.

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Date: 7/05/2025 18:13:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279874
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

She sounds worthy enough:

Who is Sarah Witty? The Labor candidate set to dethrone Greens leader Adam Bandt in Melbourne

Link

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/may/07/who-is-sarah-witty-labor-greens-leader-adam-bandt-melbourne-seat-federal-election-2025

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Date: 7/05/2025 20:01:40
From: dv
ID: 2279910
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Aunty has given two more seats to the ALP, meaning they now stand at 89 seats

This only leaves 11 to be decided.

ALP vs Lib
Bullwinkel (New seat): Basically a dead tie, ALP leads by 0.1%
Longman (Lib incumbent): Lib leads by 0.4%
Menzies (Lib incumbent): ALP leads by 1.2%

ALP vs Nat
Bendigo (ALP incumbent Lisa Chesters): ALP ahead by 2.2% but there is reason to think the preferences will not go her way

Teal vs ALP
Bean (ALP incumbent David Smith): Teal ahead by 0.2%

Teal vs Lib
Kooyong (Teal incumbent Monique Ryan): Teal ahead by 0.8%

Maybe complicated

Calwell (ALP incumbent). On paper this should be a slam dunk for ALP but there are a lot of independents and if one of them can push the Libs into third place, this could be a close contest between ALP and Ind.

Flinders (Lib incumbent). Again this should be a safe Lib seat but if one of the Independents (Ben Smith) pushes ALP into third place then it will be a Lib vs Ind contest.

Monash (Lib incumbent who left the party) Another one that is going to be determined by preference flows towards independents.

Ryan (Green incumbent). Either the Greens or ALP will win this, depending on who is eliminated on preferences first. If the Greens do lose this one, they’ve been eliminated completely from the House of Reps.

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Date: 7/05/2025 20:08:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279911
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:

Aunty has given two more seats to the ALP, meaning they now stand at 89 seats

Dirty Communist Left Eats Itself

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-07/anthony-albanese-takes-on-greens-max-chandler-mather/105265152

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has blamed the Greens’ mounting election losses on their blocking tactics in parliament, calling former MP Max Chandler-Mather’s conduct in parliament “offensive”. “Maybe what he needs is a mirror and a reflection on why he’s no longer in parliament … it’s a bit rich for him, of all people,” Mr Albanese told 7.30 on Wednesday. “This is a guy who stood before signs at a CFMEU rally in Brisbane describing me as a Nazi.”

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Date: 7/05/2025 20:11:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279913
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:

Ryan (Green incumbent). Either the Greens or ALP will win this, depending on who is eliminated on preferences first. If the Greens do lose this one, they’ve been eliminated completely from the House of Reps.

aha

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Date: 7/05/2025 20:19:29
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2279915
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Aunty has given two more seats to the ALP, meaning they now stand at 89 seats

Dirty Communist Left Eats Itself

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-07/anthony-albanese-takes-on-greens-max-chandler-mather/105265152

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has blamed the Greens’ mounting election losses on their blocking tactics in parliament, calling former MP Max Chandler-Mather’s conduct in parliament “offensive”. “Maybe what he needs is a mirror and a reflection on why he’s no longer in parliament … it’s a bit rich for him, of all people,” Mr Albanese told 7.30 on Wednesday. “This is a guy who stood before signs at a CFMEU rally in Brisbane describing me as a Nazi.”


I remember, in the olden days of 2-3 months ago, it was widely believed Labor would form a minority govt with Greens & teals. Oh, how young and innocent we all were!

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Date: 7/05/2025 20:24:05
From: party_pants
ID: 2279917
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Aunty has given two more seats to the ALP, meaning they now stand at 89 seats

Dirty Communist Left Eats Itself

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-07/anthony-albanese-takes-on-greens-max-chandler-mather/105265152

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has blamed the Greens’ mounting election losses on their blocking tactics in parliament, calling former MP Max Chandler-Mather’s conduct in parliament “offensive”. “Maybe what he needs is a mirror and a reflection on why he’s no longer in parliament … it’s a bit rich for him, of all people,” Mr Albanese told 7.30 on Wednesday. “This is a guy who stood before signs at a CFMEU rally in Brisbane describing me as a Nazi.”


I remember, in the olden days of 2-3 months ago, it was widely believed Labor would form a minority govt with Greens & teals. Oh, how young and innocent we all were!

Uncle Party_Pants was telling you all back then, don’t call the election too early, hold off until May, and by then the Trump will be toxic and start to sway people away from the conservative side.

I am clain wisdom and foresight of a greybeard.

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Date: 7/05/2025 20:34:22
From: dv
ID: 2279923
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Aunty has given two more seats to the ALP, meaning they now stand at 89 seats

Dirty Communist Left Eats Itself

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-07/anthony-albanese-takes-on-greens-max-chandler-mather/105265152

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has blamed the Greens’ mounting election losses on their blocking tactics in parliament, calling former MP Max Chandler-Mather’s conduct in parliament “offensive”. “Maybe what he needs is a mirror and a reflection on why he’s no longer in parliament … it’s a bit rich for him, of all people,” Mr Albanese told 7.30 on Wednesday. “This is a guy who stood before signs at a CFMEU rally in Brisbane describing me as a Nazi.”

As I may have mentioned, I called the office of Jordon Steele John hoping to talk to him about housing, his staff informed me that housing policy is Max’s department, and I said yeah but my vote doesn’t matter to Max, and they said in any case JSJ isn’t available.

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Date: 7/05/2025 20:49:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 2279929
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

For the life of me, I will never understand why these people are so salty. You make 4 million dollars a day purely in passive income. Had a magic carpet ride your whole life. If you can’t bring yourself to make the world a better place then maybe just sit back, relax and enjoy life rather than blowing an o-ring at the idea that someone somewhere might get things a little easier.

There is evil in the world, and they are glad.

A pox on them.

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Date: 7/05/2025 20:57:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2279930
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

For the life of me, I will never understand why these people are so salty. You make 4 million dollars a day purely in passive income. Had a magic carpet ride your whole life. If you can’t bring yourself to make the world a better place then maybe just sit back, relax and enjoy life rather than blowing an o-ring at the idea that someone somewhere might get things a little easier.

There is evil in the world, and they are glad.

A pox on them.

why, did they fascists not tell the truth about communists telling the truth

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Date: 7/05/2025 21:38:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2279936
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Ruth Forrest
2h ·
The Premier’s recent statements as quoted in the media – “Tasmanian Premier Jeremy Rockliff has issued an ultimatum to upper house MPs ahead of a vote on special legislation that would enable an AFL stadium on Hobart’s waterfront, saying a Tasmanian AFL team won’t go ahead unless the legislation passes” are inappropriate, unwelcome and verging on unlawful.
I have been in this position before when a former Minister for Infrastructure threatened me with loss of funding for my electorate if I didn’t support amendments he hadn’t even shared with me and vote with the government. Such tactics are ineffective, disrespectful and insulting.
Threats, intimidation and coercion are unacceptable in any setting. I urge the Premier to tone done the threats and intimidation as it is bordering on the unlawful. The State’s Criminal Code Act 1924 states in section 70(1) “Any person who, by force or fraud, or by threats or intimidation of any kind, interferes with the free exercise by either House of Parliament of its authority, or with the free exercise by any Member of either House of his duty or authority as such Member, is guilty of a crime.”
I have a duty to the people who elected me and the people of Tasmania as a whole. I am elected to fully consider any, and all, legislation that comes before our House. I always seek to do that diligently and consider both (or all sides) of a matter and listen to differing voices. In this case, I am absolutely doing this. I have done this respectfully listening to differing views within and outside my electorate.
I have also raised for many years my concerns for the State’s financial position and the absolute failure of the government, and opposition, to put forward any meaningful pathway to budget sustainability. Rather, the government have continued to spend more and more, including on necessary services and welcome infrastructure but without and plan for fiscal sustainability or responsible budgeting.
This has been absolutely compounded by two early elections and approximately $1.4 billion in pork being promised at each election from the pork barrel. I am not suggesting all these election commitments were not important but in the absence of seeking votes at the two early elections, there may well have been less spending and more strategic spending. Sadly there is no similar approach being taken to responsibly budget.
The matter of the stadium, as a requirement of the agreement was not taken to an election before the agreement was signed – it did not even go to Cabinet. At the second early election, the Premier promised a hard spending cap suggesting the stadium could be build for the promised amount of $375m and not a cent more when seeking votes in 2023. To now admit it will cost more and Tasmanian taxpayers will be up for the extra is dishonest and misleading.
I support our team – we are part of a nation that has a national competition and Tasmania is a foundational, grassroots AFL state. We absolutely have our own team. It cannot be at any cost especially when we have so many other important needs in our State, a small population base and stretched financial position.
I will not be threatened, coerced or bullied into blindly accepting or agreeing to a piece of legislation I am yet to see, a full cost to Tasmanians I am yet to see, the impact on the State budget and financial position, I am yet to see and information that I can be assured will address all the concerns raised by the Tasmanian Planning Commission, which I am yet to see and a plan to repair the budget, which I am yet to see. I will continue to do my work diligently; be evidence based and take a whole of State consideration as I also listen to my own electorate on a very significant decision. I will consider the benefits to the State as well as the risks. I believe this is why I have been elected to parliament and returned 3 times.
Finally, I will not accept any blame for any failures that may occur related to the success or otherwise of the team and any stadium that may or may not be built. Any such failure will clearly reflect the government’s mishandling of such an important matter from the outset and the unwillingness to listen to voices outside their echo chamber. Any blame will lie solidly at the feet of this government and the Premier who signed the agreement, not other Members who are doing the job they were elected for do. It seems nothing has been learnt from the devastating outcome of the Federal election for the Liberal Party where the blame lies at the feet of its former Leader and party itself.

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Date: 7/05/2025 21:55:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2279943
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

sarahs mum said:


Ruth Forrest
2h ·
The Premier’s recent statements as quoted in the media – “Tasmanian Premier Jeremy Rockliff has issued an ultimatum to upper house MPs ahead of a vote on special legislation that would enable an AFL stadium on Hobart’s waterfront, saying a Tasmanian AFL team won’t go ahead unless the legislation passes” are inappropriate, unwelcome and verging on unlawful.
I have been in this position before when a former Minister for Infrastructure threatened me with loss of funding for my electorate if I didn’t support amendments he hadn’t even shared with me and vote with the government. Such tactics are ineffective, disrespectful and insulting.
Threats, intimidation and coercion are unacceptable in any setting. I urge the Premier to tone done the threats and intimidation as it is bordering on the unlawful. The State’s Criminal Code Act 1924 states in section 70(1) “Any person who, by force or fraud, or by threats or intimidation of any kind, interferes with the free exercise by either House of Parliament of its authority, or with the free exercise by any Member of either House of his duty or authority as such Member, is guilty of a crime.”
I have a duty to the people who elected me and the people of Tasmania as a whole. I am elected to fully consider any, and all, legislation that comes before our House. I always seek to do that diligently and consider both (or all sides) of a matter and listen to differing voices. In this case, I am absolutely doing this. I have done this respectfully listening to differing views within and outside my electorate.
I have also raised for many years my concerns for the State’s financial position and the absolute failure of the government, and opposition, to put forward any meaningful pathway to budget sustainability. Rather, the government have continued to spend more and more, including on necessary services and welcome infrastructure but without and plan for fiscal sustainability or responsible budgeting.
This has been absolutely compounded by two early elections and approximately $1.4 billion in pork being promised at each election from the pork barrel. I am not suggesting all these election commitments were not important but in the absence of seeking votes at the two early elections, there may well have been less spending and more strategic spending. Sadly there is no similar approach being taken to responsibly budget.
The matter of the stadium, as a requirement of the agreement was not taken to an election before the agreement was signed – it did not even go to Cabinet. At the second early election, the Premier promised a hard spending cap suggesting the stadium could be build for the promised amount of $375m and not a cent more when seeking votes in 2023. To now admit it will cost more and Tasmanian taxpayers will be up for the extra is dishonest and misleading.
I support our team – we are part of a nation that has a national competition and Tasmania is a foundational, grassroots AFL state. We absolutely have our own team. It cannot be at any cost especially when we have so many other important needs in our State, a small population base and stretched financial position.
I will not be threatened, coerced or bullied into blindly accepting or agreeing to a piece of legislation I am yet to see, a full cost to Tasmanians I am yet to see, the impact on the State budget and financial position, I am yet to see and information that I can be assured will address all the concerns raised by the Tasmanian Planning Commission, which I am yet to see and a plan to repair the budget, which I am yet to see. I will continue to do my work diligently; be evidence based and take a whole of State consideration as I also listen to my own electorate on a very significant decision. I will consider the benefits to the State as well as the risks. I believe this is why I have been elected to parliament and returned 3 times.
Finally, I will not accept any blame for any failures that may occur related to the success or otherwise of the team and any stadium that may or may not be built. Any such failure will clearly reflect the government’s mishandling of such an important matter from the outset and the unwillingness to listen to voices outside their echo chamber. Any blame will lie solidly at the feet of this government and the Premier who signed the agreement, not other Members who are doing the job they were elected for do. It seems nothing has been learnt from the devastating outcome of the Federal election for the Liberal Party where the blame lies at the feet of its former Leader and party itself.

Well said, good on her.

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Date: 8/05/2025 10:44:10
From: dv
ID: 2280011
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

https://jacobin.com/2023/06/australia-labor-greens-housing-future-fund-affordability

In fairness to Max, here is his reason for blocking Labor’s housing plans.

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Date: 8/05/2025 10:56:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2280015
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

how good is Dutton, saving Australia and keeping democracy focused on actual legitimate issues rather than mere team sports

Labor pounced and never stopped hammering the nuclear idea until election day. Dutton had turned what would be an election about Albanese’s performance into a substantive choice between competing policies.

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Date: 8/05/2025 11:47:42
From: Michael V
ID: 2280059
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

SCIENCE said:

how good is Dutton, saving Australia and keeping democracy focused on actual legitimate issues rather than mere team sports

Labor pounced and never stopped hammering the nuclear idea until election day. Dutton had turned what would be an election about Albanese’s performance into a substantive choice between competing policies.

:)

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Date: 8/05/2025 12:03:35
From: buffy
ID: 2280071
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Jacob Greber How Peter Dutton’s campaign flew off the cliff

Longish read, but interesting.

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Date: 8/05/2025 12:30:38
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2280080
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


Jacob Greber How Peter Dutton’s campaign flew off the cliff

Longish read, but interesting.

As Jacob points out, the ALP is quite likely to succumb to a massive fit of hubris from this election result, as they do seem to enjoy a bit of smugness and self-satisfaction after an election win, and this one is the best excuse that they’ve had for a while.

With a comfortable margin in the House, and a ‘negotiable’ situation in the Senate, they may feel no urgency to implement anything too ‘radical’, let’s just cruise along for a year or two and enjoy the perks of government. All the while chanting the time-honoured mantra of ‘the voters will remember how much worse off they were under the L/NP’.

Then, suddenly, it’s an election year, the CV isn’t quite as gilt-edged as it could have been, and, after six years of Labor government, it seems that the voters have rather poor memories, indeed.

Labor has a good opportunity here. What will they do with it?

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Date: 8/05/2025 12:40:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2280083
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Jacob Greber How Peter Dutton’s campaign flew off the cliff

Longish read, but interesting.

As Jacob points out, the ALP is quite likely to succumb to a massive fit of hubris from this election result, as they do seem to enjoy a bit of smugness and self-satisfaction after an election win, and this one is the best excuse that they’ve had for a while.

With a comfortable margin in the House, and a ‘negotiable’ situation in the Senate, they may feel no urgency to implement anything too ‘radical’, let’s just cruise along for a year or two and enjoy the perks of government. All the while chanting the time-honoured mantra of ‘the voters will remember how much worse off they were under the L/NP’.

Then, suddenly, it’s an election year, the CV isn’t quite as gilt-edged as it could have been, and, after six years of Labor government, it seems that the voters have rather poor memories, indeed.

Labor has a good opportunity here. What will they do with it?

well what did the victorious party of greatness in the USSA do with their opportunity eh, did they squander it

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Date: 8/05/2025 12:47:35
From: buffy
ID: 2280089
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

Jacob Greber How Peter Dutton’s campaign flew off the cliff

Longish read, but interesting.

As Jacob points out, the ALP is quite likely to succumb to a massive fit of hubris from this election result, as they do seem to enjoy a bit of smugness and self-satisfaction after an election win, and this one is the best excuse that they’ve had for a while.

With a comfortable margin in the House, and a ‘negotiable’ situation in the Senate, they may feel no urgency to implement anything too ‘radical’, let’s just cruise along for a year or two and enjoy the perks of government. All the while chanting the time-honoured mantra of ‘the voters will remember how much worse off they were under the L/NP’.

Then, suddenly, it’s an election year, the CV isn’t quite as gilt-edged as it could have been, and, after six years of Labor government, it seems that the voters have rather poor memories, indeed.

Labor has a good opportunity here. What will they do with it?

So what is worse? Hubris or born to ruledness?

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Date: 8/05/2025 12:49:27
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2280090
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Jacob Greber How Peter Dutton’s campaign flew off the cliff

Longish read, but interesting.

As Jacob points out, the ALP is quite likely to succumb to a massive fit of hubris from this election result, as they do seem to enjoy a bit of smugness and self-satisfaction after an election win, and this one is the best excuse that they’ve had for a while.

With a comfortable margin in the House, and a ‘negotiable’ situation in the Senate, they may feel no urgency to implement anything too ‘radical’, let’s just cruise along for a year or two and enjoy the perks of government. All the while chanting the time-honoured mantra of ‘the voters will remember how much worse off they were under the L/NP’.

Then, suddenly, it’s an election year, the CV isn’t quite as gilt-edged as it could have been, and, after six years of Labor government, it seems that the voters have rather poor memories, indeed.

Labor has a good opportunity here. What will they do with it?

So what is worse? Hubris or born to ruledness?

Two sides of the same coin, i suppose. Both will blame the electorate, one for denying thier divine right, the other for not being grateful for having been rescued from the ‘divinely appointed’.

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Date: 8/05/2025 16:24:02
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2280157
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025
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Date: 8/05/2025 16:25:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2280158
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:

  • Coalition senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price has confirmed she will leave the National party room to join the Liberals and “play a robust part” in the party’s rebuild.

I bet that there’s a lot of Libs who are just thrilled to bits about that.

But, perhaps they can knock the MAGA nonsense out of her.

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Date: 8/05/2025 16:26:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2280161
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

  • Coalition senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price has confirmed she will leave the National party room to join the Liberals and “play a robust part” in the party’s rebuild.

I bet that there’s a lot of Libs who are just thrilled to bits about that.

But, perhaps they can knock the MAGA nonsense out of her.

Some of them are doubtless planning to knock a bit more of it into her.

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Date: 8/05/2025 16:30:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2280163
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Well, if they have any sense, it might go something like:

‘Sit down in the corner, Jacinta, and STFU until you’re spoken to.

You’re in my party now, you’re part of the dog now, not the tail, so forget about wagging anything.

When you’ve demonstrated that you can listen, and not compulsively spout utter shite, you may be given some role in the party, and what you have to say may be heard’.

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Date: 8/05/2025 16:30:58
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2280164
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

  • Coalition senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price has confirmed she will leave the National party room to join the Liberals and “play a robust part” in the party’s rebuild.

I bet that there’s a lot of Libs who are just thrilled to bits about that.

But, perhaps they can knock the MAGA nonsense out of her.

How fractured do you have to be in order to let her take over the rebuild?

Having said that, it’s just her saying she’s the one to rebuild a robust party. AFAIK no one has commented on this grand plan of hers.

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Date: 8/05/2025 16:31:46
From: Michael V
ID: 2280165
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Divine Angel said:

  • Greens leader Adam Bandt has conceded defeat in Melbourne after a 15-year career in parliament.
  • Coalition senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price has confirmed she will leave the National party room to join the Liberals and “play a robust part” in the party’s rebuild.

That’s the Liberals down the gurgler.

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Date: 8/05/2025 16:32:35
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2280166
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

  • Greens leader Adam Bandt has conceded defeat in Melbourne after a 15-year career in parliament.
  • Coalition senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price has confirmed she will leave the National party room to join the Liberals and “play a robust part” in the party’s rebuild.

That’s the Liberals down the gurgler.

It does seem like they’ve decided to shoot themselves in the other foot, as well.

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Date: 8/05/2025 16:38:24
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2280168
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

  • Greens leader Adam Bandt has conceded defeat in Melbourne after a 15-year career in parliament.
  • Coalition senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price has confirmed she will leave the National party room to join the Liberals and “play a robust part” in the party’s rebuild.

That’s the Liberals down the gurgler.

It does seem like they’ve decided to shoot themselves in the other foot, as well.

hopefully whilst it is in their mouth.

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Date: 8/05/2025 17:11:30
From: dv
ID: 2280182
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

There’s still a contest between ALP and Malcolm Roberts for the 6th senate slot in Qld and I was thinking it might be close but Dr Kev Bonham reckons I’m dreaming and has locked PHON in as “likely”.

Should be noted that Price is still in the same party (CLP) and this change is just about who she caucuses with.

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Date: 8/05/2025 17:13:01
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2280186
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


There’s still a contest between ALP and Malcolm Roberts for the 6th senate slot in Qld and I was thinking it might be close but Dr Kev Bonham reckons I’m dreaming and has locked PHON in as “likely”.

Should be noted that Price is still in the same party (CLP) and this change is just about who she caucuses with.

True to the origin, there are no winners in a caucus race. Except maybe Dodo.

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Date: 8/05/2025 19:06:04
From: dv
ID: 2280249
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Speaking of which, Aunty has called Menzies for ALP, bringing their total to 90 and leaving 10 mysterious.

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Date: 8/05/2025 21:56:58
From: dv
ID: 2280316
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

That’s great chief but I don’t think Albonicus can hear you over the sound of 90 seats.

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Date: 8/05/2025 22:00:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2280317
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

dv said:


That’s great chief but I don’t think Albonicus can hear you over the sound of 90 seats.

Labor response: “Go and play with your French clocks.”

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Date: 9/05/2025 12:31:09
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2280485
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

So we can safely assume that Albo’s massive win would mean her could tell the factions to fuck off if he wanted so it appears that Husic and Dreyfus were demoted for reasons other than their competence as ministers. Not a good look.

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Date: 9/05/2025 12:35:32
From: Cymek
ID: 2280486
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


So we can safely assume that Albo’s massive win would mean her could tell the factions to fuck off if he wanted so it appears that Husic and Dreyfus were demoted for reasons other than their competence as ministers. Not a good look.

Dreyfus wandered off to Devil’s Mountain, without even a by your leave

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Date: 9/05/2025 12:35:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 2280487
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


So we can safely assume that Albo’s massive win would mean her could tell the factions to fuck off if he wanted so it appears that Husic and Dreyfus were demoted for reasons other than their competence as ministers. Not a good look.

Did he replece them with females?

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Date: 9/05/2025 12:37:47
From: Tamb
ID: 2280489
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


So we can safely assume that Albo’s massive win would mean her could tell the factions to fuck off if he wanted so it appears that Husic and Dreyfus were demoted for reasons other than their competence as ministers. Not a good look.

Historically, Dreyfus is not a good name to have.

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Date: 9/05/2025 14:14:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2280525
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

Bendigo for Labor’s Lisa Chesters. She retains the seat from Nationals candidate Andrew Lethlean despite the largest swing away from Labor in any seat.

bizarre, why buck the trend more than the trend itself

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Date: 9/05/2025 23:05:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2280715
Subject: re: Australian politics - May 2025

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