Date: 22/02/2011 19:54:38
From: bon008
ID: 123980
Subject: White plums

Something a bit less depressing to talk about.

I have a lovely friend at work who has suddenly become a very enthusiastic food gardener.

Anyway, she has a plum tree, and hasn’t had many fruit so far – but the ones she has had have been white! This is on the outside – she showed me a picture, and it’s just like a normal plum but with no colour at all in the skin. I think she also mentioned today that one of her other stone fruits (nectarine or peach, I think) is also making white fruit.

Any ideas what the problem could be?? She thinks it has something to do with her two dogs peeing under those trees, but I would have thought white fruit would be more common, if that were the case.

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Date: 22/02/2011 19:59:08
From: bubba louie
ID: 123982
Subject: re: White plums

bon008 said:


Something a bit less depressing to talk about.

I have a lovely friend at work who has suddenly become a very enthusiastic food gardener.

Anyway, she has a plum tree, and hasn’t had many fruit so far – but the ones she has had have been white! This is on the outside – she showed me a picture, and it’s just like a normal plum but with no colour at all in the skin. I think she also mentioned today that one of her other stone fruits (nectarine or peach, I think) is also making white fruit.

Any ideas what the problem could be?? She thinks it has something to do with her two dogs peeing under those trees, but I would have thought white fruit would be more common, if that were the case.

What do they taste like?

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Date: 22/02/2011 20:01:13
From: bon008
ID: 123983
Subject: re: White plums

bubba louie said:


bon008 said:

Something a bit less depressing to talk about.

I have a lovely friend at work who has suddenly become a very enthusiastic food gardener.

Anyway, she has a plum tree, and hasn’t had many fruit so far – but the ones she has had have been white! This is on the outside – she showed me a picture, and it’s just like a normal plum but with no colour at all in the skin. I think she also mentioned today that one of her other stone fruits (nectarine or peach, I think) is also making white fruit.

Any ideas what the problem could be?? She thinks it has something to do with her two dogs peeing under those trees, but I would have thought white fruit would be more common, if that were the case.

What do they taste like?

I don’t think she would have been brave enough to taste them! She is a bit.. squeamish, in some areas, although gardening seems to have mellowed her :)

I will ask though.

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Date: 22/02/2011 21:42:59
From: bluegreen
ID: 123992
Subject: re: White plums

it’s not that it has a heavy bloom?

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Date: 22/02/2011 23:45:38
From: trichome
ID: 123995
Subject: re: White plums

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_G8eSh_l6crI/TFxQDYkIqUI/AAAAAAAADdQ/sWvM6vBB3V4/s1600/P8043809.JPG

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Date: 22/02/2011 23:59:43
From: bubba louie
ID: 123996
Subject: re: White plums

I used to buy Mirabelle Plum Jam. Best jam ever but the stupidmarket doesn’t stock it anymore.

http://www.photographersdirect.com/buyers/stockphoto.asp?imageid=1512236

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Date: 23/02/2011 00:01:17
From: bubba louie
ID: 123997
Subject: re: White plums

bubba louie said:


I used to buy Mirabelle Plum Jam. Best jam ever but the stupidmarket doesn’t stock it anymore.

http://www.photographersdirect.com/buyers/stockphoto.asp?imageid=1512236

Woops. I think I should have read the print before I posted that.

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Date: 23/02/2011 03:50:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 123998
Subject: re: White plums

It definitely hs nothing to do with the dogs.

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Date: 23/02/2011 04:05:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 123999
Subject: re: White plums

tell her to give you photos you can post here if you like but there are a number of plum and nectarine species that could fill the bill.

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Date: 23/02/2011 09:21:17
From: pomolo
ID: 124002
Subject: re: White plums

I’ve learnt something for today. I never knew there were white plums. Aren’t they any good for eating? Maybe not a good commercial crop? Just wondering!

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Date: 23/02/2011 11:13:36
From: trichome
ID: 124011
Subject: re: White plums

i have some memory, or perhaps a dream, of seeing a pure white ie. brilliant white plum eg. actual white not like in the picture link i posted, small about 25mm in dia. but i’m not so sure of that :)

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Date: 23/02/2011 14:07:49
From: bon008
ID: 124016
Subject: re: White plums

bluegreen said:


it’s not that it has a heavy bloom?

No, I did ask that, but on the photo it looks really, properly white!

Just catching up with the LHC

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Date: 23/02/2011 14:09:18
From: bon008
ID: 124017
Subject: re: White plums

pomolo said:


I’ve learnt something for today. I never knew there were white plums. Aren’t they any good for eating? Maybe not a good commercial crop? Just wondering!

Me either! I’ll see if she still has the tag that came with the plant. I think she has a picture on Facebook – so I can’t get to it, but you lot probably can! :)

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Date: 23/02/2011 15:01:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 124018
Subject: re: White plums

bon008 said:


pomolo said:

I’ve learnt something for today. I never knew there were white plums. Aren’t they any good for eating? Maybe not a good commercial crop? Just wondering!

Me either! I’ll see if she still has the tag that came with the plant. I think she has a picture on Facebook – so I can’t get to it, but you lot probably can! :)

There are a range of issues here. Obviously plums or any fruit will start out green then go through colour phase changes as they ripen.
Conditions of light falling on fruit may have an effect. ie: good strong evenly spread light will obviously bring out the strongest colourations as also may temperatures. Many plums have yellow to pink colourations when fully ripened in full sun. Quite a few of these varieties will look white at some stage. This doesn’t mean that all the plums on any one tree will end up as white when ripe. Yet I could take my camera to the nursery now and show me eating plums that look white while others on the tree are pinkish.. This is primarily about availabilty of light on the fruit, in some varieties.

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Date: 23/02/2011 16:02:50
From: bon008
ID: 124019
Subject: re: White plums

roughbarked said:


bon008 said:

pomolo said:

I’ve learnt something for today. I never knew there were white plums. Aren’t they any good for eating? Maybe not a good commercial crop? Just wondering!

Me either! I’ll see if she still has the tag that came with the plant. I think she has a picture on Facebook – so I can’t get to it, but you lot probably can! :)

There are a range of issues here. Obviously plums or any fruit will start out green then go through colour phase changes as they ripen.
Conditions of light falling on fruit may have an effect. ie: good strong evenly spread light will obviously bring out the strongest colourations as also may temperatures. Many plums have yellow to pink colourations when fully ripened in full sun. Quite a few of these varieties will look white at some stage. This doesn’t mean that all the plums on any one tree will end up as white when ripe. Yet I could take my camera to the nursery now and show me eating plums that look white while others on the tree are pinkish.. This is primarily about availabilty of light on the fruit, in some varieties.

Thanks RB, I’ll pass that info on :)

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Date: 24/02/2011 13:03:43
From: bon008
ID: 124063
Subject: re: White plums

bon008 said:


roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

Me either! I’ll see if she still has the tag that came with the plant. I think she has a picture on Facebook – so I can’t get to it, but you lot probably can! :)

There are a range of issues here. Obviously plums or any fruit will start out green then go through colour phase changes as they ripen.
Conditions of light falling on fruit may have an effect. ie: good strong evenly spread light will obviously bring out the strongest colourations as also may temperatures. Many plums have yellow to pink colourations when fully ripened in full sun. Quite a few of these varieties will look white at some stage. This doesn’t mean that all the plums on any one tree will end up as white when ripe. Yet I could take my camera to the nursery now and show me eating plums that look white while others on the tree are pinkish.. This is primarily about availabilty of light on the fruit, in some varieties.

Thanks RB, I’ll pass that info on :)

Her plum tree is in the shade – she’s going to do some pruning to try to get more light in.

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Date: 25/02/2011 14:23:38
From: trichome
ID: 124145
Subject: re: White plums

can we get a picture of them at this stage then after prune?

i have this weird memory of a brilliant white fig :)

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Date: 25/02/2011 14:29:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 124147
Subject: re: White plums

trichome said:


can we get a picture of them at this stage then after prune?

i have this weird memory of a brilliant white fig :)

probably white adriatic.

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Date: 25/02/2011 15:06:12
From: bon008
ID: 124152
Subject: re: White plums

trichome said:


can we get a picture of them at this stage then after prune?

i have this weird memory of a brilliant white fig :)

She has sent me a picture, but she didn’t say if it’s OK for me to put it online.. I’ll ask :)

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Date: 1/03/2011 17:28:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 124513
Subject: re: White plums

The next quwestion would be. Does your friend know that the trees have been planted by her or were they in the garden when she moved in? Older varieties not so commonly grown which could fit the bill were Coes golden drop, gorgeous golden drop. Ended up a pale yellow at ripe stage.

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Date: 1/03/2011 18:09:00
From: bon008
ID: 124517
Subject: re: White plums

roughbarked said:


The next quwestion would be. Does your friend know that the trees have been planted by her or were they in the garden when she moved in? Older varieties not so commonly grown which could fit the bill were Coes golden drop, gorgeous golden drop. Ended up a pale yellow at ripe stage.

Oh, you just reminded me – she said I could put the photo on PhotoBucket. Just a moment..

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Date: 1/03/2011 18:11:29
From: bon008
ID: 124518
Subject: re: White plums

Photobucket

That should be clickable to take you to the full size version.

I think she bought it herself but I’ll ask tomorrow – she isn’t in the office today.

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Date: 1/03/2011 18:19:46
From: trichome
ID: 124519
Subject: re: White plums

i knew it, thanks for that :)
is it possible to have photos of when it is ripe and cut open ?

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Date: 1/03/2011 18:28:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 124520
Subject: re: White plums

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Date: 1/03/2011 19:08:08
From: bon008
ID: 124521
Subject: re: White plums

trichome said:

i knew it, thanks for that :)
is it possible to have photos of when it is ripe and cut open ?

I’ll ask, but how will she know when it’s ripe? Just from the softness?

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Date: 1/03/2011 20:00:56
From: trichome
ID: 124526
Subject: re: White plums

bon008 said:


trichome said:

i knew it, thanks for that :)
is it possible to have photos of when it is ripe and cut open ?

I’ll ask, but how will she know when it’s ripe? Just from the softness?

yes when it is softer, in that picture it looks quite white, do i see a hint of yellow in the skin? when looking at it does it actually look a lot whiter?

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