Date: 1/07/2025 02:25:53
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2296791
Subject: Australian politics - July 2025

Draw a line under the last month, and keep going from here.

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Date: 1/07/2025 11:37:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2296845
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Green Hydrogen is dead, apparently.

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Date: 1/07/2025 11:55:51
From: kii
ID: 2296850
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


Green Hydrogen is dead, apparently.

These guys could hold a funeral apparently.

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Date: 1/07/2025 17:02:45
From: dv
ID: 2296929
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


Green Hydrogen is dead, apparently.

I think rumours of its death may have been exaggerated, at least in WA
https://www.geraldtonguardian.com.au/news/geraldton-guardian/15b-murchison-green-hydrogen-project-to-begin-construction-in-early-2027-ammonia-production-in-2030-c-19137935

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Date: 1/07/2025 17:19:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2296934
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Green Hydrogen is dead, apparently.

I think rumours of its death may have been exaggerated, at least in WA
https://www.geraldtonguardian.com.au/news/geraldton-guardian/15b-murchison-green-hydrogen-project-to-begin-construction-in-early-2027-ammonia-production-in-2030-c-19137935

It’s resting.

What about green methane?

Is that a thing?

Or green petrol for that matter.

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Date: 1/07/2025 17:26:30
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2296938
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Green Hydrogen is dead, apparently.

I think rumours of its death may have been exaggerated, at least in WA
https://www.geraldtonguardian.com.au/news/geraldton-guardian/15b-murchison-green-hydrogen-project-to-begin-construction-in-early-2027-ammonia-production-in-2030-c-19137935

It’s resting.

What about green methane?

Is that a thing?

Or green petrol for that matter.

Something from 2020:
https://thehill.com/changing-america/sustainability/energy/477848-how-a-scientific-breakthrough-is-making-green-methane/

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Date: 1/07/2025 18:29:17
From: dv
ID: 2296954
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Green Hydrogen is dead, apparently.

I think rumours of its death may have been exaggerated, at least in WA
https://www.geraldtonguardian.com.au/news/geraldton-guardian/15b-murchison-green-hydrogen-project-to-begin-construction-in-early-2027-ammonia-production-in-2030-c-19137935

It’s resting.

What about green methane?

Is that a thing?

Or green petrol for that matter.

Those are both things but it seems not very price competitive at present.

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Date: 2/07/2025 15:21:51
From: dv
ID: 2297126
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Well one thing I did not know about was the

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_New_South_Wales_new_state_referendum

concerning the creation of a new state of New England and Northern Rivers.

It was quite unusual in that only a part of the state was required to vote. The boundaries of that area had been determined by a commission before WW2.

The proposal failed (46% yes 54% no). New Englanders were mainly Yesses: Newcastle and Maitlanders were mostly Noes.

—-

Near as I can tell, this is the only time a referendum or plebiscite has been held in only part of an Australian state or territory.

Fun fact: the state of Victoria has never held a referendum or plebiscite. The last referendum in Victoria was held in 1898, at which time it was a Colony.

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Date: 2/07/2025 16:17:44
From: Ian
ID: 2297132
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

dv said:

Well one thing I did not know about was the

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_New_South_Wales_new_state_referendum

concerning the creation of a new state of New England and Northern Rivers.

It was quite unusual in that only a part of the state was required to vote. The boundaries of that area had been determined by a commission before WW2.

The proposal failed (46% yes 54% no). New Englanders were mainly Yesses: Newcastle and Maitlanders were mostly Noes.

—-

Near as I can tell, this is the only time a referendum or plebiscite has been held in only part of an Australian state or territory.

Fun fact: the state of Victoria has never held a referendum or plebiscite. The last referendum in Victoria was held in 1898, at which time it was a Colony.

Sir Earle Christmas Grafton Page was splitter in chief.

Differences over sectarian issues, milk, electricity and the southern boundary brought it all unstuck.

“A referendum of New England electors was held on 29 April 1967. The ‘no’ vote was led by the Australian Labor Party who campaigned hard. The referendum was narrowly defeated with 54% voting ‘no’. The very high ‘no’ vote in the Labor strongholds of Newcastle and the Lower Hunter offset the majority ‘yes’ vote elsewhere, although the no margin was not high. The threat of restricted access to the highly regulated Sydney milk and dairy products market also boosted the ‘no’ vote in rural areas.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_New_State_Movement

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Date: 2/07/2025 19:40:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 2297222
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

dv said:

Well one thing I did not know about was the

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_New_South_Wales_new_state_referendum

concerning the creation of a new state of New England and Northern Rivers.

It was quite unusual in that only a part of the state was required to vote. The boundaries of that area had been determined by a commission before WW2.

The proposal failed (46% yes 54% no). New Englanders were mainly Yesses: Newcastle and Maitlanders were mostly Noes.

—-

Near as I can tell, this is the only time a referendum or plebiscite has been held in only part of an Australian state or territory.

Fun fact: the state of Victoria has never held a referendum or plebiscite. The last referendum in Victoria was held in 1898, at which time it was a Colony.


Very interesting.

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Date: 7/07/2025 09:19:43
From: kii
ID: 2298672
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

I know what I’d say if I saw him.

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Date: 7/07/2025 11:12:08
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2298694
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Was reading about the economic reform roundtable this morning. Looks like the favored outcome is likely going to be a recommendation for an increase in the rate and a broadening of the base, of the GST.

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Date: 7/07/2025 12:07:08
From: dv
ID: 2298713
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Surprisingly good Newspoll for ALP in Victoria, 53-47.

For the Labor leader, Jacinta Allen, not such good news.

30% approval, 61% disapproval.

Not bad for the opposition leader Battin, 40% approval, 35% disapproval.

Preferred Premier: Battin 41, Allen 36.

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Date: 7/07/2025 12:19:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2298718
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

dv said:


Surprisingly good Newspoll for ALP in Victoria, 53-47.

For the Labor leader, Jacinta Allen, not such good news.

30% approval, 61% disapproval.

Not bad for the opposition leader Battin, 40% approval, 35% disapproval.

Preferred Premier: Battin 41, Allen 36.

I’ve never heard of Battin, all the media seems to be about John Pesutto

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Date: 8/07/2025 08:43:40
From: dv
ID: 2299018
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/perth-drive/fiona-argyle-nedlands-resignations/105504882

Fiona Argyle, mayor of Nedlands, has a great interview on the ABC radio.

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Date: 8/07/2025 09:45:07
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2299036
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/perth-drive/fiona-argyle-nedlands-resignations/105504882

Fiona Argyle, mayor of Nedlands, has a great interview on the ABC radio.

Nedlands sounds like comic book town.

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Date: 8/07/2025 09:48:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2299038
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/perth-drive/fiona-argyle-nedlands-resignations/105504882

Fiona Argyle, mayor of Nedlands, has a great interview on the ABC radio.

Nedlands sounds like comic book town.

Sounds Dutch.

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Date: 8/07/2025 09:54:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2299042
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/perth-drive/fiona-argyle-nedlands-resignations/105504882

Fiona Argyle, mayor of Nedlands, has a great interview on the ABC radio.

Hmm, “I’m a globalised girl”.

I know nussing about this controversy, is she a goodie or a baddie?

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Date: 8/07/2025 10:01:42
From: dv
ID: 2299049
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/perth-drive/fiona-argyle-nedlands-resignations/105504882

Fiona Argyle, mayor of Nedlands, has a great interview on the ABC radio.

Hmm, “I’m a globalised girl”.

I know nussing about this controversy, is she a goodie or a baddie?

I too know little about it and the facts are in dispute. I expect more will come to light when the Local Government Minister’s office takes a look. There council divided neatly into two factions based on mutual accusations of malfeasance: It’s not a party political matter.

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Date: 8/07/2025 10:08:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2299059
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/perth-drive/fiona-argyle-nedlands-resignations/105504882

Fiona Argyle, mayor of Nedlands, has a great interview on the ABC radio.

Nedlands sounds like comic book town.

Sounds Dutch.

“Mayor Argyle is married with four children, the Argyle family live in Nedlands with their dog Peter Miller and two chickens. “

Funny name for a dog.

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Date: 8/07/2025 12:45:49
From: dv
ID: 2299108
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

One issue that was raised when Brian Harradine was a senator remains unresolved.

Casual vacancies in the senate arise when a senator dies, resigns etc. These replacement senators have to be approved by the state parliament. (Different rules apply for territorial senators). By the mid 1970s there was a long standing convention that the replacement would be someone from the same party as the outgoing senator. The NSW Liberals broke this convention when Lionel Murphy left the senate to join the High Court, appointing an independent (Cleaver Bunton) rather than an ALP member as Murphy’s replacement.
Eyebrows were ruffled and feathers were raised, and in 1977 a referendum was held to ensure that such replacements must be from the party that the outgoing senator represented at the time of their election, and the referendum got up by about 75-25.

Brian Harradine was an independent Tasmanian senator for a very long time and was in his 70s by the time he left, and the question was sometimes asked: what happens if he dies? Parliament still has to approve someone and in the absence of any rule, the new senator would probably be a Lib or a Lab depending on who was governing at the time, which would hardly be a like for like replacement.

That’s still the situation today. The problem rarely arises as you need to have a pretty good statewide following to get up as an independent in the Senate. I think the only case since BH was Xenophon, as he originally ran in the Senate as an independent, but he quickly formed a party thereafter.

Note that none of this applies to senators who leave their party to be independent (Lidia Thorpe, Tammy Tyrrel etc). If you were elected as a representative of a party, you’ll be replaced by a member of that party.

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Date: 8/07/2025 14:45:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 2299160
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

In short:

The NSW Ombudsman says Revenue NSW attempted to silence and prevent complaints going to the corruption watchdog.

A special report on the matter was tabled in state parliament.

Taxpayers have a statutory right to complain to integrity agencies.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-08/revenue-nsw-silences-complaints-going-to-icac-watchdog-responds/105507018

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Date: 12/07/2025 14:30:52
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2300173
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

We should be paying more for our energy. Here’s why.

Millie Muroi
Economics Writer
July 11, 2025 — 5.00am

Very few people would agree if I were to say our energy bills should be higher. But what if I told you you’re already paying more than the number you see written on your bills every quarter?

Those relying entirely on renewable energy sources such as the sun to power their homes might think they’re spared. But even the most environmentally conscious among us are paying a higher price than what we see on paper.

Of course, as Rod Sims, former chair of the country’s competition watchdog and Superpower Institute director, said in a speech last month, we couldn’t have gotten where we are without fossil fuels. Coal, oil and gas have helped propel us from city to city, country to country, and even earth to moon. Most of our day-to-day activities would be much harder – if not impossible – without them.

But Sims points out there is no contradiction between enjoying what we have and wanting the world to move away from fossil fuels as fast as possible.

The problem is, humans are generally quite good at procrastinating. Despite the deadline to hit net zero emissions looming closer and clearer, we seem better at ignoring the threat of irreversible climate change than acting on it.

But as economics professor Ross Garnaut puts it, we did not move from the Stone Age because we ran out of stones. We have something to learn from our ancestors’ drive to do things better.

By some estimates, Australia producing intensive green exports could slash world emissions by up to 10 per cent.

There are a handful of people who still deny the science behind climate change. But there are also plenty of sensible people with reasonable concerns about the best way forward for Australia. Sims outlines several of these worries and why we shouldn’t let them get in our way.

First, the concern that the rest of the world is not moving to net zero, so Australia taking action is pointless.

But just because everyone else is sleepwalking towards a cliff, it doesn’t mean we should follow. In fact, it’s a good time to walk in another direction. It’s also a myth to say no one else is trying or that we’re all lacking in ambition.

As Sims points out, we often hear about China building coal-fired and nuclear electricity generation facilities at a mind-boggling scale. But last year, about 80 per cent of China’s 429 gigawatts of new electricity-generating capacity (roughly enough to power 322 million homes) was solar and wind powered.

And the European Union has had enough appetite (or perhaps courage) to introduce a price on carbon.

Second, some people claim Australia only accounts for about 1 per cent of world emissions, so it doesn’t matter what we do.

The clear moral argument is that we should still play our part. But Sims also points out that when we include exports (Australia is the biggest supplier of coal and gas combined in the world), our contribution to emission is more than three times higher.

From an economic perspective, we’re also throwing away what’s called our “comparative advantage”. That is, because of our nearly bottomless supply of solar and wind, and our relatively small population, we’re actually able to generate clean energy at a lower cost than most other countries – and sacrifice far less in terms of other things we could be doing with our time and resources.

Countries such as China, Japan, South Korea and India face a growing shortage of low-cost green energy to run their economies, meaning there’s a big opportunity for Australia to step in as a supplier.

But Australia also has a chance to step up as a maker and exporter of goods such as iron and steel.

Right now, despite Australia having the ingredients – huge amounts of iron ore, the coking coal needed to turn the iron ore into iron (the metal), and the thermal coal and gas to power the whole process – most of our iron ore is shipped out to, and turned into iron and steel in, north-east Asia.

But as green iron becomes more crucial in the quest for a net zero world, the costs of producing the stuff will change.

The renewable energy needed to create green hydrogen (the replacement for coking coal), and to power the process (instead of thermal coal) are expensive to export – as is green hydrogen. Sims notes exporting coking coal only adds about 10 per cent to the cost of producing iron, while exporting hydrogen instead would just about double the cost.

Rather than sending off all the ingredients, Australians could (and it will make more sense to) make the entire green product here ourselves. What we do now to build this capability will matter hugely – for ourselves, and for the world. By some estimates, Australia producing intensive green exports could slash world emissions by up to 10 per cent.

Third, some people ask why Australia can’t use nuclear energy or carbon capture and storage rather than renewables such as solar and wind power.

The Liberal Party’s resounding defeat, while not purely down to their nuclear policy, was a sign the political appetite is just not there for nuclear. But nuclear and carbon-capture techniques are also very costly.

“Of all the nuclear plants built since 2000 in countries such as the USA, the UK and France, projects have been much delayed and costs have around tripled those first estimated,” Sims points out. “Nuclear energy costs are now three to five times that of firmed renewable energy.”

The possible exceptions to this trend – South Korea and China – have more opaque costings for nuclear and have been helped along by heavy government subsidies.

While carbon-capture costs haven’t yet fallen enough to be a realistic option in most circumstances, and nuclear costs have continued rising, the cost of solar, wind and batteries has fallen rapidly. Solar power in particular could, over the next decade, offer electricity at half the cost of the cheapest available today.

The fourth issue people raise is that green products are expensive. But that is only if you ignore the cost of climate change. The harm to our environment and the possibly irreversible change to our planet are costs that are not reflected in the price we pay for products and energy generated using fossil fuels.

People living in floodplains and farmers facing longer and worse droughts might see these costs most directly, but many of us don’t see it in our everyday lives.

Putting a price on carbon helps to capture this cost. It might drive up the price of some of our goods and services – especially over the short term – but it helps reflect the full consequences and guides businesses and customers to push for cleaner alternatives.

The government providing subsidies – such as payments or grants – to generators of renewable energy and makers of green products could also achieve a similar aim.

Just as gas and minerals have played a huge role in Australia’s economic development, so can exporting green energy-intensive goods. Research by the Superpower Institute’s research lead Reuben Finighan shows the potential export revenue from these goods could amount to roughly the same size as all Australia’s current exports put together, and six to eight times larger than the country’s combined coal and liquefied natural gas export revenue.

That’s if we invest about 5 per cent of our economic output – or gross domestic product – every year for the next few decades. It’s another bill to foot, but as Sims points out, about the same level of investment as when Australia leapt on the Chinese minerals boom two decades ago. We’ve done it before so we can do it again.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/the-economy/nuclear-is-off-the-table-but-we-should-be-paying-more-for-our-energy-20250710-p5mdye.html

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Date: 12/07/2025 14:49:58
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2300177
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


We should be paying more for our energy. Here’s why.

Millie Muroi
Economics Writer
July 11, 2025 — 5.00am

Very few people would agree if I were to say our energy bills should be higher. But what if I told you you’re already paying more than the number you see written on your bills every quarter?

Those relying entirely on renewable energy sources such as the sun to power their homes might think they’re spared. But even the most environmentally conscious among us are paying a higher price than what we see on paper.

Of course, as Rod Sims, former chair of the country’s competition watchdog and Superpower Institute director, said in a speech last month, we couldn’t have gotten where we are without fossil fuels. Coal, oil and gas have helped propel us from city to city, country to country, and even earth to moon. Most of our day-to-day activities would be much harder – if not impossible – without them.

But Sims points out there is no contradiction between enjoying what we have and wanting the world to move away from fossil fuels as fast as possible.

The problem is, humans are generally quite good at procrastinating. Despite the deadline to hit net zero emissions looming closer and clearer, we seem better at ignoring the threat of irreversible climate change than acting on it.

But as economics professor Ross Garnaut puts it, we did not move from the Stone Age because we ran out of stones. We have something to learn from our ancestors’ drive to do things better.

By some estimates, Australia producing intensive green exports could slash world emissions by up to 10 per cent.

There are a handful of people who still deny the science behind climate change. But there are also plenty of sensible people with reasonable concerns about the best way forward for Australia. Sims outlines several of these worries and why we shouldn’t let them get in our way.

First, the concern that the rest of the world is not moving to net zero, so Australia taking action is pointless.

But just because everyone else is sleepwalking towards a cliff, it doesn’t mean we should follow. In fact, it’s a good time to walk in another direction. It’s also a myth to say no one else is trying or that we’re all lacking in ambition.

As Sims points out, we often hear about China building coal-fired and nuclear electricity generation facilities at a mind-boggling scale. But last year, about 80 per cent of China’s 429 gigawatts of new electricity-generating capacity (roughly enough to power 322 million homes) was solar and wind powered.

And the European Union has had enough appetite (or perhaps courage) to introduce a price on carbon.

Second, some people claim Australia only accounts for about 1 per cent of world emissions, so it doesn’t matter what we do.

The clear moral argument is that we should still play our part. But Sims also points out that when we include exports (Australia is the biggest supplier of coal and gas combined in the world), our contribution to emission is more than three times higher.

From an economic perspective, we’re also throwing away what’s called our “comparative advantage”. That is, because of our nearly bottomless supply of solar and wind, and our relatively small population, we’re actually able to generate clean energy at a lower cost than most other countries – and sacrifice far less in terms of other things we could be doing with our time and resources.

Countries such as China, Japan, South Korea and India face a growing shortage of low-cost green energy to run their economies, meaning there’s a big opportunity for Australia to step in as a supplier.

But Australia also has a chance to step up as a maker and exporter of goods such as iron and steel.

Right now, despite Australia having the ingredients – huge amounts of iron ore, the coking coal needed to turn the iron ore into iron (the metal), and the thermal coal and gas to power the whole process – most of our iron ore is shipped out to, and turned into iron and steel in, north-east Asia.

But as green iron becomes more crucial in the quest for a net zero world, the costs of producing the stuff will change.

The renewable energy needed to create green hydrogen (the replacement for coking coal), and to power the process (instead of thermal coal) are expensive to export – as is green hydrogen. Sims notes exporting coking coal only adds about 10 per cent to the cost of producing iron, while exporting hydrogen instead would just about double the cost.

Rather than sending off all the ingredients, Australians could (and it will make more sense to) make the entire green product here ourselves. What we do now to build this capability will matter hugely – for ourselves, and for the world. By some estimates, Australia producing intensive green exports could slash world emissions by up to 10 per cent.

Third, some people ask why Australia can’t use nuclear energy or carbon capture and storage rather than renewables such as solar and wind power.

The Liberal Party’s resounding defeat, while not purely down to their nuclear policy, was a sign the political appetite is just not there for nuclear. But nuclear and carbon-capture techniques are also very costly.

“Of all the nuclear plants built since 2000 in countries such as the USA, the UK and France, projects have been much delayed and costs have around tripled those first estimated,” Sims points out. “Nuclear energy costs are now three to five times that of firmed renewable energy.”

The possible exceptions to this trend – South Korea and China – have more opaque costings for nuclear and have been helped along by heavy government subsidies.

While carbon-capture costs haven’t yet fallen enough to be a realistic option in most circumstances, and nuclear costs have continued rising, the cost of solar, wind and batteries has fallen rapidly. Solar power in particular could, over the next decade, offer electricity at half the cost of the cheapest available today.

The fourth issue people raise is that green products are expensive. But that is only if you ignore the cost of climate change. The harm to our environment and the possibly irreversible change to our planet are costs that are not reflected in the price we pay for products and energy generated using fossil fuels.

People living in floodplains and farmers facing longer and worse droughts might see these costs most directly, but many of us don’t see it in our everyday lives.

Putting a price on carbon helps to capture this cost. It might drive up the price of some of our goods and services – especially over the short term – but it helps reflect the full consequences and guides businesses and customers to push for cleaner alternatives.

The government providing subsidies – such as payments or grants – to generators of renewable energy and makers of green products could also achieve a similar aim.

Just as gas and minerals have played a huge role in Australia’s economic development, so can exporting green energy-intensive goods. Research by the Superpower Institute’s research lead Reuben Finighan shows the potential export revenue from these goods could amount to roughly the same size as all Australia’s current exports put together, and six to eight times larger than the country’s combined coal and liquefied natural gas export revenue.

That’s if we invest about 5 per cent of our economic output – or gross domestic product – every year for the next few decades. It’s another bill to foot, but as Sims points out, about the same level of investment as when Australia leapt on the Chinese minerals boom two decades ago. We’ve done it before so we can do it again.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/the-economy/nuclear-is-off-the-table-but-we-should-be-paying-more-for-our-energy-20250710-p5mdye.html

It’s good to see someone from the mainstream media arguing in favour of a price on carbon for a change.

Recognising the future costs of GHG emissions, and making those costs visible to everybody, is something that all politicians who support a market economy should be in favour of.

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Date: 12/07/2025 17:29:08
From: Michael V
ID: 2300208
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Witty Rejoinder said:


We should be paying more for our energy. Here’s why.

Millie Muroi
Economics Writer
July 11, 2025 — 5.00am

Very few people would agree if I were to say our energy bills should be higher. But what if I told you you’re already paying more than the number you see written on your bills every quarter?

Those relying entirely on renewable energy sources such as the sun to power their homes might think they’re spared. But even the most environmentally conscious among us are paying a higher price than what we see on paper.

Of course, as Rod Sims, former chair of the country’s competition watchdog and Superpower Institute director, said in a speech last month, we couldn’t have gotten where we are without fossil fuels. Coal, oil and gas have helped propel us from city to city, country to country, and even earth to moon. Most of our day-to-day activities would be much harder – if not impossible – without them.

But Sims points out there is no contradiction between enjoying what we have and wanting the world to move away from fossil fuels as fast as possible.

The problem is, humans are generally quite good at procrastinating. Despite the deadline to hit net zero emissions looming closer and clearer, we seem better at ignoring the threat of irreversible climate change than acting on it.

But as economics professor Ross Garnaut puts it, we did not move from the Stone Age because we ran out of stones. We have something to learn from our ancestors’ drive to do things better.

By some estimates, Australia producing intensive green exports could slash world emissions by up to 10 per cent.

There are a handful of people who still deny the science behind climate change. But there are also plenty of sensible people with reasonable concerns about the best way forward for Australia. Sims outlines several of these worries and why we shouldn’t let them get in our way.

First, the concern that the rest of the world is not moving to net zero, so Australia taking action is pointless.

But just because everyone else is sleepwalking towards a cliff, it doesn’t mean we should follow. In fact, it’s a good time to walk in another direction. It’s also a myth to say no one else is trying or that we’re all lacking in ambition.

As Sims points out, we often hear about China building coal-fired and nuclear electricity generation facilities at a mind-boggling scale. But last year, about 80 per cent of China’s 429 gigawatts of new electricity-generating capacity (roughly enough to power 322 million homes) was solar and wind powered.

And the European Union has had enough appetite (or perhaps courage) to introduce a price on carbon.

Second, some people claim Australia only accounts for about 1 per cent of world emissions, so it doesn’t matter what we do.

The clear moral argument is that we should still play our part. But Sims also points out that when we include exports (Australia is the biggest supplier of coal and gas combined in the world), our contribution to emission is more than three times higher.

From an economic perspective, we’re also throwing away what’s called our “comparative advantage”. That is, because of our nearly bottomless supply of solar and wind, and our relatively small population, we’re actually able to generate clean energy at a lower cost than most other countries – and sacrifice far less in terms of other things we could be doing with our time and resources.

Countries such as China, Japan, South Korea and India face a growing shortage of low-cost green energy to run their economies, meaning there’s a big opportunity for Australia to step in as a supplier.

But Australia also has a chance to step up as a maker and exporter of goods such as iron and steel.

Right now, despite Australia having the ingredients – huge amounts of iron ore, the coking coal needed to turn the iron ore into iron (the metal), and the thermal coal and gas to power the whole process – most of our iron ore is shipped out to, and turned into iron and steel in, north-east Asia.

But as green iron becomes more crucial in the quest for a net zero world, the costs of producing the stuff will change.

The renewable energy needed to create green hydrogen (the replacement for coking coal), and to power the process (instead of thermal coal) are expensive to export – as is green hydrogen. Sims notes exporting coking coal only adds about 10 per cent to the cost of producing iron, while exporting hydrogen instead would just about double the cost.

Rather than sending off all the ingredients, Australians could (and it will make more sense to) make the entire green product here ourselves. What we do now to build this capability will matter hugely – for ourselves, and for the world. By some estimates, Australia producing intensive green exports could slash world emissions by up to 10 per cent.

Third, some people ask why Australia can’t use nuclear energy or carbon capture and storage rather than renewables such as solar and wind power.

The Liberal Party’s resounding defeat, while not purely down to their nuclear policy, was a sign the political appetite is just not there for nuclear. But nuclear and carbon-capture techniques are also very costly.

“Of all the nuclear plants built since 2000 in countries such as the USA, the UK and France, projects have been much delayed and costs have around tripled those first estimated,” Sims points out. “Nuclear energy costs are now three to five times that of firmed renewable energy.”

The possible exceptions to this trend – South Korea and China – have more opaque costings for nuclear and have been helped along by heavy government subsidies.

While carbon-capture costs haven’t yet fallen enough to be a realistic option in most circumstances, and nuclear costs have continued rising, the cost of solar, wind and batteries has fallen rapidly. Solar power in particular could, over the next decade, offer electricity at half the cost of the cheapest available today.

The fourth issue people raise is that green products are expensive. But that is only if you ignore the cost of climate change. The harm to our environment and the possibly irreversible change to our planet are costs that are not reflected in the price we pay for products and energy generated using fossil fuels.

People living in floodplains and farmers facing longer and worse droughts might see these costs most directly, but many of us don’t see it in our everyday lives.

Putting a price on carbon helps to capture this cost. It might drive up the price of some of our goods and services – especially over the short term – but it helps reflect the full consequences and guides businesses and customers to push for cleaner alternatives.

The government providing subsidies – such as payments or grants – to generators of renewable energy and makers of green products could also achieve a similar aim.

Just as gas and minerals have played a huge role in Australia’s economic development, so can exporting green energy-intensive goods. Research by the Superpower Institute’s research lead Reuben Finighan shows the potential export revenue from these goods could amount to roughly the same size as all Australia’s current exports put together, and six to eight times larger than the country’s combined coal and liquefied natural gas export revenue.

That’s if we invest about 5 per cent of our economic output – or gross domestic product – every year for the next few decades. It’s another bill to foot, but as Sims points out, about the same level of investment as when Australia leapt on the Chinese minerals boom two decades ago. We’ve done it before so we can do it again.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/the-economy/nuclear-is-off-the-table-but-we-should-be-paying-more-for-our-energy-20250710-p5mdye.html

Good one.

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Date: 13/07/2025 18:31:52
From: dv
ID: 2300522
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

https://youtu.be/pL3EwR8zqwA?si=UO2pmytd0UXKkKJ9

Constitutional Clarion
Batman’s Treaty – Why did it fail

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Date: 13/07/2025 18:33:39
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2300523
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

dv said:


https://youtu.be/pL3EwR8zqwA?si=UO2pmytd0UXKkKJ9

Constitutional Clarion
Batman’s Treaty – Why did it fail

nanananananananananano idea.

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Date: 13/07/2025 21:42:11
From: dv
ID: 2300548
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

The polls continue to suggest a status quo result in Tasmania.
DEMOS poll today indicates something like
13 Lib
10 ALP
6 Green
4 Independents
2 uncertain

With the disappearance of the Lambie network, Independents are polling at 20% which does add a lot of unpredictability. Looks like being a terrible primary vote share for Labor but maybe some of those independent votes will writtle home for them. The Greens are up a few percent compared to 2024.

18 is the mark required and I suppose it is possible that the ALP and Greens will together reach that target but ALP are adamant they will not govern with the support of the Greens. This is tantamount to saying they refuse to govern. Tasmanian politics is depressing.

The Nats have polled at 6.2 % in the seat of Lyons. Shooters have polled at 6.1%. If most of Shooter’s preferences flow to Nats and they get a few more from independents then they could be in with a shot of a seat remembering that a quota is 12.5%.

So it may be that the Liberals can put together another minority government with something like Libs 13 Independents 4 Nats 1.

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Date: 14/07/2025 11:12:56
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2300603
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Now that I’m employed by Education Queensland, I get emails such as this.
~~~
Dear colleagues

Welcome to Term 3!

I hope you all had a relaxing and enjoyable school holiday break.

During my visits to schools and communities in the first semester, I listened to what matters most to you.

In June, I was proud to announce the Crisafulli Government’s $21.9 billion Education Budget, designed to give Queensland teachers, students, and families a fresh start.

Through the More Teachers, Better Education Plan, $222.1 million is being directed towards specialist support for teachers and students. This includes enhanced resources to prevent and address bullying, more behaviour support specialists and expanded professional development opportunities.

We’re also committing $1.09 billion to build 15 new schools where they’re needed most. New primary schools will open in Caloundra South and Ripley Valley, along with a new high school in Gracemere, ensuring students have access to a world-class education close to home.

In addition, we’re making a significant investment in special schools. Six new special schools will provide purpose-built facilities for up to 800 students with disabilities in Central Logan (Berrinba), Beenleigh, Moreton Bay South, Springfield-Redbank, Ipswich West and Coomera. These schools will give students the support and spaces they need to thrive.

One of the most important investments we’re making is in early childhood education by investing $12.7 million to strengthen regulation and ensure quality and safety in early childhood education and care services.

From 2026, families will benefit from the Back to School Boost which provides $100 for every Prep to Year 6 student to help parents cover the cost of books, stationery, sports and arts activities—providing both educational support and cost-of-living relief.

We know reading is critical to lifting literacy calls and I want to thank all the teachers, students and school leaders participating in the 2025 Premier’s Reading Challenge. We have just passed the halfway mark but there is still time for students to get involved and discover their love of reading. I encourage you to visit the Premier’s Reading Challenge website for more information.

I look forward to seeing many of you as I continue visiting schools across Queensland. Wishing you all a fantastic term ahead!

Kind regards,

John-Paul Langbroek MP
Minister for Education and the Arts
1 William Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
PO Box 15033 | City East QLD 4002

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Date: 14/07/2025 11:23:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2300604
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Divine Angel said:


Now that I’m employed by Education Queensland, I get emails such as this.
~~~
Dear colleagues

Welcome to Term 3!

I hope you all had a relaxing and enjoyable school holiday break.

During my visits to schools and communities in the first semester, I listened to what matters most to you.

In June, I was proud to announce the Crisafulli Government’s $21.9 billion Education Budget, designed to give Queensland teachers, students, and families a fresh start.

Through the More Teachers, Better Education Plan, $222.1 million is being directed towards specialist support for teachers and students. This includes enhanced resources to prevent and address bullying, more behaviour support specialists and expanded professional development opportunities.

We’re also committing $1.09 billion to build 15 new schools where they’re needed most. New primary schools will open in Caloundra South and Ripley Valley, along with a new high school in Gracemere, ensuring students have access to a world-class education close to home.

In addition, we’re making a significant investment in special schools. Six new special schools will provide purpose-built facilities for up to 800 students with disabilities in Central Logan (Berrinba), Beenleigh, Moreton Bay South, Springfield-Redbank, Ipswich West and Coomera. These schools will give students the support and spaces they need to thrive.

One of the most important investments we’re making is in early childhood education by investing $12.7 million to strengthen regulation and ensure quality and safety in early childhood education and care services.

From 2026, families will benefit from the Back to School Boost which provides $100 for every Prep to Year 6 student to help parents cover the cost of books, stationery, sports and arts activities—providing both educational support and cost-of-living relief.

We know reading is critical to lifting literacy calls and I want to thank all the teachers, students and school leaders participating in the 2025 Premier’s Reading Challenge. We have just passed the halfway mark but there is still time for students to get involved and discover their love of reading. I encourage you to visit the Premier’s Reading Challenge website for more information.

I look forward to seeing many of you as I continue visiting schools across Queensland. Wishing you all a fantastic term ahead!

Kind regards,

John-Paul Langbroek MP
Minister for Education and the Arts
1 William Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
PO Box 15033 | City East QLD 4002

So that covers $1.3 billion.

I wonder where the other $20.6 billion is going?

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Date: 14/07/2025 11:26:00
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2300605
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Divine Angel said:


Now that I’m employed by Education Queensland, I get emails such as this.
~~~
Dear colleagues

Welcome to Term 3!

I hope you all had a relaxing and enjoyable school holiday break.

During my visits to schools and communities in the first semester, I listened to what matters most to you.

In June, I was proud to announce the Crisafulli Government’s $21.9 billion Education Budget, designed to give Queensland teachers, students, and families a fresh start.

Through the More Teachers, Better Education Plan, $222.1 million is being directed towards specialist support for teachers and students. This includes enhanced resources to prevent and address bullying, more behaviour support specialists and expanded professional development opportunities.

We’re also committing $1.09 billion to build 15 new schools where they’re needed most. New primary schools will open in Caloundra South and Ripley Valley, along with a new high school in Gracemere, ensuring students have access to a world-class education close to home.

In addition, we’re making a significant investment in special schools. Six new special schools will provide purpose-built facilities for up to 800 students with disabilities in Central Logan (Berrinba), Beenleigh, Moreton Bay South, Springfield-Redbank, Ipswich West and Coomera. These schools will give students the support and spaces they need to thrive.

One of the most important investments we’re making is in early childhood education by investing $12.7 million to strengthen regulation and ensure quality and safety in early childhood education and care services.

From 2026, families will benefit from the Back to School Boost which provides $100 for every Prep to Year 6 student to help parents cover the cost of books, stationery, sports and arts activities—providing both educational support and cost-of-living relief.

We know reading is critical to lifting literacy calls and I want to thank all the teachers, students and school leaders participating in the 2025 Premier’s Reading Challenge. We have just passed the halfway mark but there is still time for students to get involved and discover their love of reading. I encourage you to visit the Premier’s Reading Challenge website for more information.

I look forward to seeing many of you as I continue visiting schools across Queensland. Wishing you all a fantastic term ahead!

Kind regards,

John-Paul Langbroek MP
Minister for Education and the Arts
1 William Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
PO Box 15033 | City East QLD 4002

do you take issue with anything in the email?

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Date: 14/07/2025 11:28:54
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2300606
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

diddly-squat said:


Divine Angel said:

Now that I’m employed by Education Queensland, I get emails such as this.
~~~
Dear colleagues

Welcome to Term 3!

I hope you all had a relaxing and enjoyable school holiday break.

During my visits to schools and communities in the first semester, I listened to what matters most to you.

In June, I was proud to announce the Crisafulli Government’s $21.9 billion Education Budget, designed to give Queensland teachers, students, and families a fresh start.

Through the More Teachers, Better Education Plan, $222.1 million is being directed towards specialist support for teachers and students. This includes enhanced resources to prevent and address bullying, more behaviour support specialists and expanded professional development opportunities.

We’re also committing $1.09 billion to build 15 new schools where they’re needed most. New primary schools will open in Caloundra South and Ripley Valley, along with a new high school in Gracemere, ensuring students have access to a world-class education close to home.

In addition, we’re making a significant investment in special schools. Six new special schools will provide purpose-built facilities for up to 800 students with disabilities in Central Logan (Berrinba), Beenleigh, Moreton Bay South, Springfield-Redbank, Ipswich West and Coomera. These schools will give students the support and spaces they need to thrive.

One of the most important investments we’re making is in early childhood education by investing $12.7 million to strengthen regulation and ensure quality and safety in early childhood education and care services.

From 2026, families will benefit from the Back to School Boost which provides $100 for every Prep to Year 6 student to help parents cover the cost of books, stationery, sports and arts activities—providing both educational support and cost-of-living relief.

We know reading is critical to lifting literacy calls and I want to thank all the teachers, students and school leaders participating in the 2025 Premier’s Reading Challenge. We have just passed the halfway mark but there is still time for students to get involved and discover their love of reading. I encourage you to visit the Premier’s Reading Challenge website for more information.

I look forward to seeing many of you as I continue visiting schools across Queensland. Wishing you all a fantastic term ahead!

Kind regards,

John-Paul Langbroek MP
Minister for Education and the Arts
1 William Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
PO Box 15033 | City East QLD 4002

do you take issue with anything in the email?

Well if I worked in education I’d certainly take issue with getting a letter written in such party political promotional terms.

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Date: 14/07/2025 11:37:52
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2300608
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


diddly-squat said:

Divine Angel said:

Now that I’m employed by Education Queensland, I get emails such as this.
~~~
Dear colleagues

Welcome to Term 3!

I hope you all had a relaxing and enjoyable school holiday break.

During my visits to schools and communities in the first semester, I listened to what matters most to you.

In June, I was proud to announce the Crisafulli Government’s $21.9 billion Education Budget, designed to give Queensland teachers, students, and families a fresh start.

Through the More Teachers, Better Education Plan, $222.1 million is being directed towards specialist support for teachers and students. This includes enhanced resources to prevent and address bullying, more behaviour support specialists and expanded professional development opportunities.

We’re also committing $1.09 billion to build 15 new schools where they’re needed most. New primary schools will open in Caloundra South and Ripley Valley, along with a new high school in Gracemere, ensuring students have access to a world-class education close to home.

In addition, we’re making a significant investment in special schools. Six new special schools will provide purpose-built facilities for up to 800 students with disabilities in Central Logan (Berrinba), Beenleigh, Moreton Bay South, Springfield-Redbank, Ipswich West and Coomera. These schools will give students the support and spaces they need to thrive.

One of the most important investments we’re making is in early childhood education by investing $12.7 million to strengthen regulation and ensure quality and safety in early childhood education and care services.

From 2026, families will benefit from the Back to School Boost which provides $100 for every Prep to Year 6 student to help parents cover the cost of books, stationery, sports and arts activities—providing both educational support and cost-of-living relief.

We know reading is critical to lifting literacy calls and I want to thank all the teachers, students and school leaders participating in the 2025 Premier’s Reading Challenge. We have just passed the halfway mark but there is still time for students to get involved and discover their love of reading. I encourage you to visit the Premier’s Reading Challenge website for more information.

I look forward to seeing many of you as I continue visiting schools across Queensland. Wishing you all a fantastic term ahead!

Kind regards,

John-Paul Langbroek MP
Minister for Education and the Arts
1 William Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
PO Box 15033 | City East QLD 4002

do you take issue with anything in the email?

Well if I worked in education I’d certainly take issue with getting a letter written in such party political promotional terms.

As an employee, how would you prefer such information be conveyed to you?

I mean tit seems to me to be pretty by-the-by to me. “This is your CEO speaking, we think education is important. We’re working on a series of initiatives – here is a summary of a few. Thanks for listening”

Other than saying the Premier’s name, it doesn’t feel partisan at all.

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Date: 14/07/2025 11:40:37
From: Michael V
ID: 2300609
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Divine Angel said:


Now that I’m employed by Education Queensland, I get emails such as this.
~~~
Dear colleagues

Welcome to Term 3!

I hope you all had a relaxing and enjoyable school holiday break.

During my visits to schools and communities in the first semester, I listened to what matters most to you.

In June, I was proud to announce the Crisafulli Government’s $21.9 billion Education Budget, designed to give Queensland teachers, students, and families a fresh start.

Through the More Teachers, Better Education Plan, $222.1 million is being directed towards specialist support for teachers and students. This includes enhanced resources to prevent and address bullying, more behaviour support specialists and expanded professional development opportunities.

We’re also committing $1.09 billion to build 15 new schools where they’re needed most. New primary schools will open in Caloundra South and Ripley Valley, along with a new high school in Gracemere, ensuring students have access to a world-class education close to home.

In addition, we’re making a significant investment in special schools. Six new special schools will provide purpose-built facilities for up to 800 students with disabilities in Central Logan (Berrinba), Beenleigh, Moreton Bay South, Springfield-Redbank, Ipswich West and Coomera. These schools will give students the support and spaces they need to thrive.

One of the most important investments we’re making is in early childhood education by investing $12.7 million to strengthen regulation and ensure quality and safety in early childhood education and care services.

From 2026, families will benefit from the Back to School Boost which provides $100 for every Prep to Year 6 student to help parents cover the cost of books, stationery, sports and arts activities—providing both educational support and cost-of-living relief.

We know reading is critical to lifting literacy calls and I want to thank all the teachers, students and school leaders participating in the 2025 Premier’s Reading Challenge. We have just passed the halfway mark but there is still time for students to get involved and discover their love of reading. I encourage you to visit the Premier’s Reading Challenge website for more information.

I look forward to seeing many of you as I continue visiting schools across Queensland. Wishing you all a fantastic term ahead!

Kind regards,

John-Paul Langbroek MP
Minister for Education and the Arts
1 William Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
PO Box 15033 | City East QLD 4002

I have already noticed that the Crisafulli government is spending truckloads on TV ads telling us all the fantastic things that they are doing so incredibly well. I personally object to our taxes being used to ramp up party political advertising.

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Date: 14/07/2025 11:41:29
From: Cymek
ID: 2300610
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

diddly-squat said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

diddly-squat said:

do you take issue with anything in the email?

Well if I worked in education I’d certainly take issue with getting a letter written in such party political promotional terms.

As an employee, how would you prefer such information be conveyed to you?

I mean tit seems to me to be pretty by-the-by to me. “This is your CEO speaking, we think education is important. We’re working on a series of initiatives – here is a summary of a few. Thanks for listening”

Other than saying the Premier’s name, it doesn’t feel partisan at all.

We get similar emails from the Director General for the Justice Department.
Budget updates, latest news in regards to what’s going on, etc.

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Date: 14/07/2025 11:46:19
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2300612
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Now that I’m employed by Education Queensland, I get emails such as this.
~~~
Dear colleagues

Welcome to Term 3!

I hope you all had a relaxing and enjoyable school holiday break.

During my visits to schools and communities in the first semester, I listened to what matters most to you.

In June, I was proud to announce the Crisafulli Government’s $21.9 billion Education Budget, designed to give Queensland teachers, students, and families a fresh start.

Through the More Teachers, Better Education Plan, $222.1 million is being directed towards specialist support for teachers and students. This includes enhanced resources to prevent and address bullying, more behaviour support specialists and expanded professional development opportunities.

We’re also committing $1.09 billion to build 15 new schools where they’re needed most. New primary schools will open in Caloundra South and Ripley Valley, along with a new high school in Gracemere, ensuring students have access to a world-class education close to home.

In addition, we’re making a significant investment in special schools. Six new special schools will provide purpose-built facilities for up to 800 students with disabilities in Central Logan (Berrinba), Beenleigh, Moreton Bay South, Springfield-Redbank, Ipswich West and Coomera. These schools will give students the support and spaces they need to thrive.

One of the most important investments we’re making is in early childhood education by investing $12.7 million to strengthen regulation and ensure quality and safety in early childhood education and care services.

From 2026, families will benefit from the Back to School Boost which provides $100 for every Prep to Year 6 student to help parents cover the cost of books, stationery, sports and arts activities—providing both educational support and cost-of-living relief.

We know reading is critical to lifting literacy calls and I want to thank all the teachers, students and school leaders participating in the 2025 Premier’s Reading Challenge. We have just passed the halfway mark but there is still time for students to get involved and discover their love of reading. I encourage you to visit the Premier’s Reading Challenge website for more information.

I look forward to seeing many of you as I continue visiting schools across Queensland. Wishing you all a fantastic term ahead!

Kind regards,

John-Paul Langbroek MP
Minister for Education and the Arts
1 William Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
PO Box 15033 | City East QLD 4002

I have already noticed that the Crisafulli government is spending truckloads on TV ads telling us all the fantastic things that they are doing so incredibly well. I personally object to our taxes being used to ramp up party political advertising.

would you rather the money come from lobbyists, special interest groups and/or high net worth individuals?

it’s hardly uncommon for a government to use public funds to communicate with people about what they are doing.

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Date: 14/07/2025 11:52:00
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2300615
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

diddly-squat said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

diddly-squat said:

do you take issue with anything in the email?

Well if I worked in education I’d certainly take issue with getting a letter written in such party political promotional terms.

As an employee, how would you prefer such information be conveyed to you?

I mean tit seems to me to be pretty by-the-by to me. “This is your CEO speaking, we think education is important. We’re working on a series of initiatives – here is a summary of a few. Thanks for listening”

Other than saying the Premier’s name, it doesn’t feel partisan at all.


As with all political promises regardless of party, I believe it when I see it in action. However I would like to see incentives for teacher retention.

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Date: 14/07/2025 11:54:57
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2300616
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Divine Angel said:


diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well if I worked in education I’d certainly take issue with getting a letter written in such party political promotional terms.

As an employee, how would you prefer such information be conveyed to you?

I mean tit seems to me to be pretty by-the-by to me. “This is your CEO speaking, we think education is important. We’re working on a series of initiatives – here is a summary of a few. Thanks for listening”

Other than saying the Premier’s name, it doesn’t feel partisan at all.


As with all political promises regardless of party, I believe it when I see it in action. However I would like to see incentives for teacher retention.

what do you think the department could do to improve retention?

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Date: 14/07/2025 11:56:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2300618
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

diddly-squat said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

diddly-squat said:

do you take issue with anything in the email?

Well if I worked in education I’d certainly take issue with getting a letter written in such party political promotional terms.

As an employee, how would you prefer such information be conveyed to you?

I mean tit seems to me to be pretty by-the-by to me. “This is your CEO speaking, we think education is important. We’re working on a series of initiatives – here is a summary of a few. Thanks for listening”

Other than saying the Premier’s name, it doesn’t feel partisan at all.

OK, I know we live in different universes, but is still weird when we are presented with the same text but see completely different words.

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Date: 14/07/2025 11:56:55
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2300619
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

diddly-squat said:


Divine Angel said:

diddly-squat said:

As an employee, how would you prefer such information be conveyed to you?

I mean tit seems to me to be pretty by-the-by to me. “This is your CEO speaking, we think education is important. We’re working on a series of initiatives – here is a summary of a few. Thanks for listening”

Other than saying the Premier’s name, it doesn’t feel partisan at all.


As with all political promises regardless of party, I believe it when I see it in action. However I would like to see incentives for teacher retention.

what do you think the department could do to improve retention?

Issue guns to teachers.

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Date: 14/07/2025 12:01:19
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2300620
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well if I worked in education I’d certainly take issue with getting a letter written in such party political promotional terms.

As an employee, how would you prefer such information be conveyed to you?

I mean tit seems to me to be pretty by-the-by to me. “This is your CEO speaking, we think education is important. We’re working on a series of initiatives – here is a summary of a few. Thanks for listening”

Other than saying the Premier’s name, it doesn’t feel partisan at all.

OK, I know we live in different universes, but is still weird when we are presented with the same text but see completely different words.

I mean it’s not uncommon for people to have different opinions on things, I guess I see this and I see a workplace communication that provides an update on what is happening at more senior levels in the organisation. What specifically do take exception with?

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Date: 14/07/2025 12:02:02
From: Michael V
ID: 2300621
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

diddly-squat said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Now that I’m employed by Education Queensland, I get emails such as this.
~~~
Dear colleagues

Welcome to Term 3!

I hope you all had a relaxing and enjoyable school holiday break.

During my visits to schools and communities in the first semester, I listened to what matters most to you.

In June, I was proud to announce the Crisafulli Government’s $21.9 billion Education Budget, designed to give Queensland teachers, students, and families a fresh start.

Through the More Teachers, Better Education Plan, $222.1 million is being directed towards specialist support for teachers and students. This includes enhanced resources to prevent and address bullying, more behaviour support specialists and expanded professional development opportunities.

We’re also committing $1.09 billion to build 15 new schools where they’re needed most. New primary schools will open in Caloundra South and Ripley Valley, along with a new high school in Gracemere, ensuring students have access to a world-class education close to home.

In addition, we’re making a significant investment in special schools. Six new special schools will provide purpose-built facilities for up to 800 students with disabilities in Central Logan (Berrinba), Beenleigh, Moreton Bay South, Springfield-Redbank, Ipswich West and Coomera. These schools will give students the support and spaces they need to thrive.

One of the most important investments we’re making is in early childhood education by investing $12.7 million to strengthen regulation and ensure quality and safety in early childhood education and care services.

From 2026, families will benefit from the Back to School Boost which provides $100 for every Prep to Year 6 student to help parents cover the cost of books, stationery, sports and arts activities—providing both educational support and cost-of-living relief.

We know reading is critical to lifting literacy calls and I want to thank all the teachers, students and school leaders participating in the 2025 Premier’s Reading Challenge. We have just passed the halfway mark but there is still time for students to get involved and discover their love of reading. I encourage you to visit the Premier’s Reading Challenge website for more information.

I look forward to seeing many of you as I continue visiting schools across Queensland. Wishing you all a fantastic term ahead!

Kind regards,

John-Paul Langbroek MP
Minister for Education and the Arts
1 William Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
PO Box 15033 | City East QLD 4002

I have already noticed that the Crisafulli government is spending truckloads on TV ads telling us all the fantastic things that they are doing so incredibly well. I personally object to our taxes being used to ramp up party political advertising.

would you rather the money come from lobbyists, special interest groups and/or high net worth individuals?

it’s hardly uncommon for a government to use public funds to communicate with people about what they are doing.

I would rather neither. Currently it is both.

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Date: 14/07/2025 12:06:14
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2300624
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Michael V said:


diddly-squat said:

Michael V said:

I have already noticed that the Crisafulli government is spending truckloads on TV ads telling us all the fantastic things that they are doing so incredibly well. I personally object to our taxes being used to ramp up party political advertising.

would you rather the money come from lobbyists, special interest groups and/or high net worth individuals?

it’s hardly uncommon for a government to use public funds to communicate with people about what they are doing.

I would rather neither. Currently it is both.

Well I suppose at least with public spending we can hold governments to account about their priorities. Don’t like the amount a party spends on marketing verses allocating that to delivering programs, vote them out.

Personally I think it’s good to (1) know what a government’s priorities are, and (2) have a system that ensures government messaging is paid for by public funds.

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Date: 14/07/2025 12:11:23
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2300627
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

captain_spalding said:


diddly-squat said:

Divine Angel said:

As with all political promises regardless of party, I believe it when I see it in action. However I would like to see incentives for teacher retention.

what do you think the department could do to improve retention?

Issue guns to teachers.

Bring back the cane.

Honestly, I don’t know. I’m certainly no expert in behaviour management, which is the main issue of retention. My assessor and both supervising teachers told me I should become a teacher. I just laughed.

The behaviour management teachers I’ve come across are literal angels. The school I’m working in is a rough school. I’d seen a lot at Mini Me’s school, the kids at this school are on a whole different level. I get so much work there because relief staff come for a day or two, and never return.

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Date: 14/07/2025 12:20:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2300628
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

diddly-squat said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

diddly-squat said:

As an employee, how would you prefer such information be conveyed to you?

I mean tit seems to me to be pretty by-the-by to me. “This is your CEO speaking, we think education is important. We’re working on a series of initiatives – here is a summary of a few. Thanks for listening”

Other than saying the Premier’s name, it doesn’t feel partisan at all.

OK, I know we live in different universes, but is still weird when we are presented with the same text but see completely different words.

I mean it’s not uncommon for people to have different opinions on things, I guess I see this and I see a workplace communication that provides an update on what is happening at more senior levels in the organisation. What specifically do take exception with?

All of it is worded with the specific intention of telling employees what a great job the current political party in power is doing, and nothing else.

No hint of how people might communicate their concerns about current procedures, or even how the information provided is supposed to help them do their job better. It’s party political self promotion, pure and simple, and would be regardless of the party that happens to be sending it out.

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Date: 14/07/2025 12:32:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2300633
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, I know we live in different universes, but is still weird when we are presented with the same text but see completely different words.

I mean it’s not uncommon for people to have different opinions on things, I guess I see this and I see a workplace communication that provides an update on what is happening at more senior levels in the organisation. What specifically do take exception with?

All of it is worded with the specific intention of telling employees what a great job the current political party in power is doing, and nothing else.

No hint of how people might communicate their concerns about current procedures, or even how the information provided is supposed to help them do their job better. It’s party political self promotion, pure and simple, and would be regardless of the party that happens to be sending it out.

I agree with your assessment. Thanks for writing it, when I was unable to find the words.

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Date: 14/07/2025 12:35:52
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2300635
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

The Rev Dodgson said:


diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, I know we live in different universes, but is still weird when we are presented with the same text but see completely different words.

I mean it’s not uncommon for people to have different opinions on things, I guess I see this and I see a workplace communication that provides an update on what is happening at more senior levels in the organisation. What specifically do take exception with?

All of it is worded with the specific intention of telling employees what a great job the current political party in power is doing, and nothing else.

No hint of how people might communicate their concerns about current procedures, or even how the information provided is supposed to help them do their job better. It’s party political self promotion, pure and simple, and would be regardless of the party that happens to be sending it out.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean how many management teams make a habit of communicating bad messaging to their employees? This to me looks like it could come from the CEO of any multi billion dollar organization.

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Date: 14/07/2025 12:36:51
From: buffy
ID: 2300636
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Alan Kohler on us and America and China

I found it an interesting read.

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Date: 14/07/2025 12:37:37
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2300637
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

diddly-squat said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

diddly-squat said:

I mean it’s not uncommon for people to have different opinions on things, I guess I see this and I see a workplace communication that provides an update on what is happening at more senior levels in the organisation. What specifically do take exception with?

All of it is worded with the specific intention of telling employees what a great job the current political party in power is doing, and nothing else.

No hint of how people might communicate their concerns about current procedures, or even how the information provided is supposed to help them do their job better. It’s party political self promotion, pure and simple, and would be regardless of the party that happens to be sending it out.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean how many management teams make a habit of communicating bad messaging to their employees? This to me looks like it could come from the CEO of any multi billion dollar organization.

If it’d come from Musk, he’d have asked what we did in an average week.

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Date: 14/07/2025 12:40:30
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2300639
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Divine Angel said:


diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

All of it is worded with the specific intention of telling employees what a great job the current political party in power is doing, and nothing else.

No hint of how people might communicate their concerns about current procedures, or even how the information provided is supposed to help them do their job better. It’s party political self promotion, pure and simple, and would be regardless of the party that happens to be sending it out.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean how many management teams make a habit of communicating bad messaging to their employees? This to me looks like it could come from the CEO of any multi billion dollar organization.

If it’d come from Musk, he’d have asked what we did in an average week.

Silver lining, good job by you.

And honestly, thank you for the work you do DA. Education is super important a admire people that choose it as a career.

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Date: 14/07/2025 12:48:51
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2300646
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

diddly-squat said:


Divine Angel said:

diddly-squat said:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean how many management teams make a habit of communicating bad messaging to their employees? This to me looks like it could come from the CEO of any multi billion dollar organization.

If it’d come from Musk, he’d have asked what we did in an average week.

Silver lining, good job by you.

And honestly, thank you for the work you do DA. Education is super important a admire people that choose it as a career.

It’s ongoing education for me too. I’ve fucked up plenty of times but honestly, the staff at that school are among the best humans to have ever walked the earth.

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Date: 14/07/2025 12:55:33
From: Cymek
ID: 2300648
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Divine Angel said:


diddly-squat said:

Divine Angel said:

If it’d come from Musk, he’d have asked what we did in an average week.

Silver lining, good job by you.

And honestly, thank you for the work you do DA. Education is super important a admire people that choose it as a career.

It’s ongoing education for me too. I’ve fucked up plenty of times but honestly, the staff at that school are among the best humans to have ever walked the earth.

When you work with decent people it makes all the difference to the job not sucking.

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Date: 14/07/2025 13:01:49
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2300649
Subject: re: Australian politics - July 2025

Cymek said:


Divine Angel said:

diddly-squat said:

Silver lining, good job by you.

And honestly, thank you for the work you do DA. Education is super important a admire people that choose it as a career.

It’s ongoing education for me too. I’ve fucked up plenty of times but honestly, the staff at that school are among the best humans to have ever walked the earth.

When you work with decent people it makes all the difference to the job not sucking.

It’s funny because some of the staff have done relief work at Mini Me’s school, but hated it because they didn’t feel welcome. It’s true, the staff there are very clique-y.

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