dv said:

dv said:

Counting will resume tomorrow.
Does seem the results have been largely in line with the polls, and that the major change will be in the Independents.

Bass
3 Lib, 2 ALP, 1 Green. 1 unknown (either Lib or Shooters).

Braddon
4 Lib, 2 ALP, 1 Independent (Craig Garland)

Clark
2 Lib, 2 ALP, 2 Green, 1 Independent (Kristie Johnson)

Franklin
2 Lib, 2 ALP, 1 Green, 2 Independent (David O’Byrne, Peter George)

Lyons
3 Lib, 2 ALP, 1 Green, 1 uncertain (either Liberal or Shooters)

ie 14 Lib, 10 ALP, 5 Green, 4 Independent, 2 uncertain.

The Shooters will support the Libs in govt so the uncertain seats aren’t going to affect things one way or another. The Liberals need 2 of those 4 Independents: Labor needs 3.

Garland and Johnson supported the no-conf motion against Rockliffe. They should be easy gets for ALP.

David O’Byrne opposed the motion against Rockliffe. He is a former ALP member.

The one new Independent is Peter George. Actually he is the leader of the Peter George group but he’s basically an independent. He is a community activist, environmentalist etc, former ABC journalist.

On the face of it, Winter has an opportunity to form government.
It will require some flexibility, even humility.

Among the independents, three are opposed to the Macq point stadium, the exception being O’Byrne.

Results finalised in Clark, exactly as anticipated, and unchanged from before the election except that one Lib is replaced by another (Simon Behrakis out, Marcus Vermey in). Behrakis is Rockliffe’s parliamentary secretary.

There are two seats still in doubt, with 90.1% of the vote counted.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-31/tasmania-election-more-seats-confirmed-preference-counting/105591772

AussieDJ said:

dv said:

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Counting will resume tomorrow.
Does seem the results have been largely in line with the polls, and that the major change will be in the Independents.

Bass
3 Lib, 2 ALP, 1 Green. 1 unknown (either Lib or Shooters).

Braddon
4 Lib, 2 ALP, 1 Independent (Craig Garland)

Clark
2 Lib, 2 ALP, 2 Green, 1 Independent (Kristie Johnson)

Franklin
2 Lib, 2 ALP, 1 Green, 2 Independent (David O’Byrne, Peter George)

Lyons
3 Lib, 2 ALP, 1 Green, 1 uncertain (either Liberal or Shooters)

ie 14 Lib, 10 ALP, 5 Green, 4 Independent, 2 uncertain.

The Shooters will support the Libs in govt so the uncertain seats aren’t going to affect things one way or another. The Liberals need 2 of those 4 Independents: Labor needs 3.

Garland and Johnson supported the no-conf motion against Rockliffe. They should be easy gets for ALP.

David O’Byrne opposed the motion against Rockliffe. He is a former ALP member.

The one new Independent is Peter George. Actually he is the leader of the Peter George group but he’s basically an independent. He is a community activist, environmentalist etc, former ABC journalist.

On the face of it, Winter has an opportunity to form government.
It will require some flexibility, even humility.

Among the independents, three are opposed to the Macq point stadium, the exception being O’Byrne.
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Results finalised in Clark, exactly as anticipated, and unchanged from before the election except that one Lib is replaced by another (Simon Behrakis out, Marcus Vermey in). Behrakis is Rockliffe’s parliamentary secretary.

There are two seats still in doubt, with 90.1% of the vote counted.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-31/tasmania-election-more-seats-confirmed-preference-counting/105591772

Franklin also finalised now as well, largely as forecast. Liberal Nic Street has lost his seat in favour of anti-stadium independent Peter George.

In something of a boost for Labor, Garland has positively affirmed he will not support a Rockliffe government.

Lyons has now been finalised, again as per script, with Carlo di Falco of the Shooters Fishers and Farmers getting the seventh seat.

dv said:

Lyons has now been finalised, again as per script, with Carlo di Falco of the Shooters Fishers and Farmers getting the seventh seat.

Did Brian Mitchell get in?

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Lyons has now been finalised, again as per script, with Carlo di Falco of the Shooters Fishers and Farmers getting the seventh seat.

Did Brian Mitchell get in?

He did indeed

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Lyons has now been finalised, again as per script, with Carlo di Falco of the Shooters Fishers and Farmers getting the seventh seat.

Did Brian Mitchell get in?

He did indeed

A successful switch then.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

Did Brian Mitchell get in?

He did indeed

A successful switch then.

What a great name is Tabatha Badger. Rolls right off the tongue.

Casey Farrell has the Labor member who was elected on countback after Rebecca White resigned earlier this year in order to pursue (successfully) a Federal seat.
He was not successful at this election so I hope he enjoyed his four months in office.

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

He did indeed

A successful switch then.

What a great name is Tabatha Badger. Rolls right off the tongue.

I’m bewitched by the name personally

Cymek said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

A successful switch then.

What a great name is Tabatha Badger. Rolls right off the tongue.

I’m bewitched by the name personally

I see what you did there.

Braddon finalised, with no surprises.

dv said:

Braddon finalised, with no surprises.

OK computer…

furious said:

dv said:

Braddon finalised, with no surprises.

OK computer…

please

So only Bass remains to be finalised. The final distributions should be interesting.

The Liberals cannot win it now so their total will remain on 14 seats.

The final seat then will be between Labor, Shooters, and an independent called Dr George Razay. Seems a moderate fellow and certainly someone the ALP would rather deal with than the Shooters.

The last Labor candidate eliminated was Melissa Anderson and presumbaly the great bulk will go to two other ALP candidates. If it went pretty evenly it would leave Lyons on ~6000 and Greene on ~5700.

This would be the lowest remaining was the final Lib, Simon Wood, who would then beam most of his preferences to Rob Fairs. Theoretically there could be a surplus of around 2700 but in reality a lot of people just vote for their own party and stop, so there will be a high exhaustion rate.

dv said:

So only Bass remains to be finalised. The final distributions should be interesting.

The Liberals cannot win it now so their total will remain on 14 seats.

The final seat then will be between Labor, Shooters, and an independent called Dr George Razay. Seems a moderate fellow and certainly someone the ALP would rather deal with than the Shooters.

The last Labor candidate eliminated was Melissa Anderson and presumbaly the great bulk will go to two other ALP candidates. If it went pretty evenly it would leave Lyons on ~6000 and Greene on ~5700.

This would be the lowest remaining was the final Lib, Simon Wood, who would then beam most of his preferences to Rob Fairs. Theoretically there could be a surplus of around 2700 but in reality a lot of people just vote for their own party and stop, so there will be a high exhaustion rate.

All a bit sad ‘cos sarahs mum would have been following this a lot more closely than I have.

It’s her birthday on Tuesday.

All eyes on Bass.

I wonder when we’ll see Down With Net Zero the opera.

Ian said:

I wonder when we’ll see Down With Net Zero the opera.

He got it mixed up with zero alcohol

dv said:

Ian said:

I wonder when we’ll see Down With Net Zero the opera.

He got it mixed up with zero alcohol

:)

In Bass, the great bulk of the Libs’ votes were exhausted, so didn’t help Shooters much.

The Shooters candidate has been eliminated.

Jess Greene ALP 6101
Geoff Lyons ALP 5754
George Razay IND 5108
Michal Frydrych SFF 4660 (eliminated)

Frydrych’s votes will be distributed now. The top two will be elected. Probably suspect a lot of SFF votes will end up exhausted as well.

If these two ALPers are elected, that will mean they have 3 in Bass and 11 overall.

dv said:

In Bass, the great bulk of the Libs’ votes were exhausted, so didn’t help Shooters much.

The Shooters candidate has been eliminated.

Jess Greene ALP 6101
Geoff Lyons ALP 5754
George Razay IND 5108
Michal Frydrych SFF 4660 (eliminated)

Frydrych’s votes will be distributed now. The top two will be elected. Probably suspect a lot of SFF votes will end up exhausted as well.

If these two ALPers are elected, that will mean they have 3 in Bass and 11 overall.

Sounds good that the shooters representative didn’t get elected.

dv said:

The Shooters candidate has been eliminated.

OK.

Most of the shooter votes went to the independent, who is elected, and the ALP’s Geoff Lyons misses out.

And so, we have

1 SFF
14 Libs
10 Labor
5 Greens

5 independents as follows

Dr George Razay
Craig Garland
Kristie Johnston
David O’Byrne
Peter George

Another hung parliament in Tas then?

I look forward to the next election.

dv said:

Most of the shooter votes went to the independent, who is elected, and the ALP’s Geoff Lyons misses out.

And so, we have

1 SFF
14 Libs
10 Labor
5 Greens

5 independents as follows

Dr George Razay
Craig Garland
Kristie Johnston
David O’Byrne
Peter George

6 Independents.

dv said:

Most of the shooter votes went to the independent, who is elected, and the ALP’s Geoff Lyons misses out.

And so, we have

1 SFF
14 Libs
10 Labor
5 Greens

5 independents as follows

Dr George Razay
Craig Garland
Kristie Johnston
David O’Byrne
Peter George

Of these, Johnston, O’Byrne and Garland were already members.
O’Byrne, formerly of the ALP, supported Rockliff in the confidence check that brought on this election. Garland and Johnston opposed.

Peter George and George Razay are the newcomers. Based on their stated platforms, they would be a better fit for Labor than for the Liberals.

There might be too much bad blood to bring O’Byrne back into the fold but I suppose nothing is impossible.

Either way, on the face of it, Dean Winter should have an easier path than Jeremy Rockliff. Garland has already stated that he will not support a Rockliff govt, and Johnston has been very disparaging about JR.

If Rockliff does form govt it will be a damning indictment of Winter’s skills. It’s going to mean compromise and humility: if they do get to 18, it will mean he has the smallest possible majority OF a coalition that has the smallest possible majority.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Most of the shooter votes went to the independent, who is elected, and the ALP’s Geoff Lyons misses out.

And so, we have

1 SFF
14 Libs
10 Labor
5 Greens

5 independents as follows

Dr George Razay
Craig Garland
Kristie Johnston
David O’Byrne
Peter George

6 Independents.

Explain

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Most of the shooter votes went to the independent, who is elected, and the ALP’s Geoff Lyons misses out.

And so, we have

1 SFF
14 Libs
10 Labor
5 Greens

5 independents as follows

Dr George Razay
Craig Garland
Kristie Johnston
David O’Byrne
Peter George

6 Independents.

Explain

It’s ok, I was counting SFF as an independent.

Barnaby Joyce is calling net zero a “lunatic policy” after a snow dump on NSW’s New England region.

Mr Joyce also lashed the Productivity Commission, which has called for an expanding of the safeguard mechanism in their latest interim report.

roughbarked said:

Barnaby Joyce is calling net zero a “lunatic policy” after a snow dump on NSW’s New England region.

Mr Joyce also lashed the Productivity Commission, which has called for an expanding of the safeguard mechanism in their latest interim report.

In case any others here share my ignorance of what the safeguard mechanism is:

The Safeguard Mechanism.

Sounds like a sensible implementation of standard engineering practice to me.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Barnaby Joyce is calling net zero a “lunatic policy” after a snow dump on NSW’s New England region.

Mr Joyce also lashed the Productivity Commission, which has called for an expanding of the safeguard mechanism in their latest interim report.

In case any others here share my ignorance of what the safeguard mechanism is:

The Safeguard Mechanism.

Sounds like a sensible implementation of standard engineering practice to me.

But then, Barnaby has never claimed to adhere to standard(or sound) engineering practices.

TLDR: rant with no real point or conclusion. Just a good, old fashioned, Monday morning rant.

So the CEO of Atlassian has laid off 150 employees in favour of AI.

https://futurism.com/ceo-lays-off-150-employees-replaced-ai

The article casually mentions that the cofounder wants to change Australian copyright laws so AI can data mine with unobstructed access.

Now here’s my rant: Australian laws surrounding the digital world are woefully behind the times. Not only have they not caught up on the use of AI and crypto, they’re still trying to deal with who owns content on social media. The US is not up to date either, and won’t be unless Trump can devise a way in which AI and crypto benefits him and his billionaire mates.

But let’s go back for a minute. Scott Farquhar wants to give AI unobstructed access to data. What can go wrong? 😑 We’re already in a world which has no real rights to privacy, we willingly give information and access to apps and services, and now fkn AI wants a piece of the action. As the saying goes, if you don’t pay for a product, you are the product.

Reminds me of that Black Mirror episode about the woman who has the brain implant.

Last week, I sat in on a presentation given by a cop who specialises in keeping children safe online. His take on the laws restricting U16s use of social media is that he already sees kids using VPNs, it’s not gonna do jack. The number of kids who put their hands up to the question, “who uses social media?” was astounding, but not surprising. These kids are 10, 11, 12.

Last week my sister sent me a YouTube clip which is convincing AI (until you get to the end, when it becomes obvious). It’s an AI overlay; young kids are exposed to these videos and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to tell what’s not real. Will laws prevent this? No. They can’t. We’ve been using photo-altering software for decades now, hoping our moral compass guides us. Clearly, that doesn’t work, especially when there’s money involved.

https://youtube.com/shorts/VMqLa4CJfro?si=DnmdL07jWhn6Lhqj

Divine Angel said:

TLDR: rant with no real point or conclusion. Just a good, old fashioned, Monday morning rant.

So the CEO of Atlassian has laid off 150 employees in favour of AI.

https://futurism.com/ceo-lays-off-150-employees-replaced-ai

The article casually mentions that the cofounder wants to change Australian copyright laws so AI can data mine with unobstructed access.

Now here’s my rant: Australian laws surrounding the digital world are woefully behind the times. Not only have they not caught up on the use of AI and crypto, they’re still trying to deal with who owns content on social media. The US is not up to date either, and won’t be unless Trump can devise a way in which AI and crypto benefits him and his billionaire mates.

But let’s go back for a minute. Scott Farquhar wants to give AI unobstructed access to data. What can go wrong? 😑 We’re already in a world which has no real rights to privacy, we willingly give information and access to apps and services, and now fkn AI wants a piece of the action. As the saying goes, if you don’t pay for a product, you are the product.

Reminds me of that Black Mirror episode about the woman who has the brain implant.

Last week, I sat in on a presentation given by a cop who specialises in keeping children safe online. His take on the laws restricting U16s use of social media is that he already sees kids using VPNs, it’s not gonna do jack. The number of kids who put their hands up to the question, “who uses social media?” was astounding, but not surprising. These kids are 10, 11, 12.

Last week my sister sent me a YouTube clip which is convincing AI (until you get to the end, when it becomes obvious). It’s an AI overlay; young kids are exposed to these videos and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to tell what’s not real. Will laws prevent this? No. They can’t. We’ve been using photo-altering software for decades now, hoping our moral compass guides us. Clearly, that doesn’t work, especially when there’s money involved.

https://youtube.com/shorts/VMqLa4CJfro?si=DnmdL07jWhn6Lhqj

It’s no surprise really that AI is being “misused” as big business will find a way to maximise profit at the expense of people.
Doesn’t matter people’s experience is extremely valuable and not something to be exploited or ignored.

Divine Angel said:

TLDR: rant with no real point or conclusion. Just a good, old fashioned, Monday morning rant.

So the CEO of Atlassian has laid off 150 employees in favour of AI.

https://futurism.com/ceo-lays-off-150-employees-replaced-ai

The article casually mentions that the cofounder wants to change Australian copyright laws so AI can data mine with unobstructed access.

Now here’s my rant: Australian laws surrounding the digital world are woefully behind the times. Not only have they not caught up on the use of AI and crypto, they’re still trying to deal with who owns content on social media. The US is not up to date either, and won’t be unless Trump can devise a way in which AI and crypto benefits him and his billionaire mates.

But let’s go back for a minute. Scott Farquhar wants to give AI unobstructed access to data. What can go wrong? 😑 We’re already in a world which has no real rights to privacy, we willingly give information and access to apps and services, and now fkn AI wants a piece of the action. As the saying goes, if you don’t pay for a product, you are the product.

Reminds me of that Black Mirror episode about the woman who has the brain implant.

Last week, I sat in on a presentation given by a cop who specialises in keeping children safe online. His take on the laws restricting U16s use of social media is that he already sees kids using VPNs, it’s not gonna do jack. The number of kids who put their hands up to the question, “who uses social media?” was astounding, but not surprising. These kids are 10, 11, 12.

Last week my sister sent me a YouTube clip which is convincing AI (until you get to the end, when it becomes obvious). It’s an AI overlay; young kids are exposed to these videos and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to tell what’s not real. Will laws prevent this? No. They can’t. We’ve been using photo-altering software for decades now, hoping our moral compass guides us. Clearly, that doesn’t work, especially when there’s money involved.

https://youtube.com/shorts/VMqLa4CJfro?si=DnmdL07jWhn6Lhqj

A very good rant.
AI will be able to do ‘customer service’ that benefits the company, but definitely not the customer. I forsee so many robodebt type interactions in our futures, so many expensive problems that will be caused.

Cymek said:

Divine Angel said:

TLDR: rant with no real point or conclusion. Just a good, old fashioned, Monday morning rant.

So the CEO of Atlassian has laid off 150 employees in favour of AI.

https://futurism.com/ceo-lays-off-150-employees-replaced-ai

The article casually mentions that the cofounder wants to change Australian copyright laws so AI can data mine with unobstructed access.

Now here’s my rant: Australian laws surrounding the digital world are woefully behind the times. Not only have they not caught up on the use of AI and crypto, they’re still trying to deal with who owns content on social media. The US is not up to date either, and won’t be unless Trump can devise a way in which AI and crypto benefits him and his billionaire mates.

But let’s go back for a minute. Scott Farquhar wants to give AI unobstructed access to data. What can go wrong? 😑 We’re already in a world which has no real rights to privacy, we willingly give information and access to apps and services, and now fkn AI wants a piece of the action. As the saying goes, if you don’t pay for a product, you are the product.

Reminds me of that Black Mirror episode about the woman who has the brain implant.

Last week, I sat in on a presentation given by a cop who specialises in keeping children safe online. His take on the laws restricting U16s use of social media is that he already sees kids using VPNs, it’s not gonna do jack. The number of kids who put their hands up to the question, “who uses social media?” was astounding, but not surprising. These kids are 10, 11, 12.

Last week my sister sent me a YouTube clip which is convincing AI (until you get to the end, when it becomes obvious). It’s an AI overlay; young kids are exposed to these videos and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to tell what’s not real. Will laws prevent this? No. They can’t. We’ve been using photo-altering software for decades now, hoping our moral compass guides us. Clearly, that doesn’t work, especially when there’s money involved.

https://youtube.com/shorts/VMqLa4CJfro?si=DnmdL07jWhn6Lhqj

It’s no surprise really that AI is being “misused” as big business will find a way to maximise profit at the expense of people.
Doesn’t matter people’s experience is extremely valuable and not something to be exploited or ignored.

“Your privacy is blocking our profits”

ruby said:

Divine Angel said:

TLDR: rant with no real point or conclusion. Just a good, old fashioned, Monday morning rant.

So the CEO of Atlassian has laid off 150 employees in favour of AI.

https://futurism.com/ceo-lays-off-150-employees-replaced-ai

The article casually mentions that the cofounder wants to change Australian copyright laws so AI can data mine with unobstructed access.

Now here’s my rant: Australian laws surrounding the digital world are woefully behind the times. Not only have they not caught up on the use of AI and crypto, they’re still trying to deal with who owns content on social media. The US is not up to date either, and won’t be unless Trump can devise a way in which AI and crypto benefits him and his billionaire mates.

But let’s go back for a minute. Scott Farquhar wants to give AI unobstructed access to data. What can go wrong? 😑 We’re already in a world which has no real rights to privacy, we willingly give information and access to apps and services, and now fkn AI wants a piece of the action. As the saying goes, if you don’t pay for a product, you are the product.

Reminds me of that Black Mirror episode about the woman who has the brain implant.

Last week, I sat in on a presentation given by a cop who specialises in keeping children safe online. His take on the laws restricting U16s use of social media is that he already sees kids using VPNs, it’s not gonna do jack. The number of kids who put their hands up to the question, “who uses social media?” was astounding, but not surprising. These kids are 10, 11, 12.

Last week my sister sent me a YouTube clip which is convincing AI (until you get to the end, when it becomes obvious). It’s an AI overlay; young kids are exposed to these videos and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to tell what’s not real. Will laws prevent this? No. They can’t. We’ve been using photo-altering software for decades now, hoping our moral compass guides us. Clearly, that doesn’t work, especially when there’s money involved.

https://youtube.com/shorts/VMqLa4CJfro?si=DnmdL07jWhn6Lhqj

A very good rant.
AI will be able to do ‘customer service’ that benefits the company, but definitely not the customer. I forsee so many robodebt type interactions in our futures, so many expensive problems that will be caused.

Reading this, I was thinking about my superannuation saga. The AI chatbot couldn’t help me, and transferred me to a real human.

What’s the bigger threat, a data breach into the database itself or a data breach via the AI bot I gave info to in order to verify my identity/account?

OTOH, I’m surprised so many OnlyFans models still hire real people to chat with fans. I would have thought that would have gone to AI long ago.

Has Peter Dutton gone back to the police force?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Has Peter Dutton gone back to the police force?

His hopeless in politics.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Has Peter Dutton gone back to the police force?

His hopeless in politics.

If you get pulled over by Dutton, expect a twenty minute rave on going over the speed limit.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/aug/04/young-liberals-urge-coalition-to-distance-itself-from-sky-news-and-blame-maga-mirage-for-dutton-loss

Young Liberals urge Coalition to distance itself from Sky News and blame Maga ‘mirage’ for Dutton loss

The Young Liberals want the Coalition to distance itself from Sky News and appeal to voters through a wider variety of media outlets, blaming Donald Trump-style culture wars for Peter Dutton’s historic election rout.

In a submission to the party’s election postmortem, obtained by Guardian Australia, the New South Wales Young Liberals division said the “fringe right” of the Liberal membership had too much influence over policy and campaign media, causing “a mirage of the Maga movement” which had turned off women and multicultural voters.

The 31-page assessment, handed to the review being led by the Liberal elders Pru Goward and Nick Minchin, is scathing of the campaign run by Dutton and his frontbench team, describing them as badly outplayed by Labor and out of touch with traditional Liberal constituencies.

The document has not been released publicly and was provided to Guardian Australia on the condition of anonymity.

“The 2025 election proved that being one of the loudest media voices in the room does not mean voters are listening to you,” it said.

“Viewership data shows that most Australians do not engage with overtly political commentary on traditional media, such as evening commentators on Sky News. Yet much of our party’s policy agenda and media appearances during the campaign were stuck in a conservative echo-chamber.”

Labor won 94 seats, its biggest victory in decades, while the Coalition was reduced to 43 seats in the lower house.

Pointing to Dutton directly, the submission said the parliamentary leader must “front up” to a range of media outlets, including those not considered “traditionally friendly” to the Liberal and Nationals parties.

In the lead-up to his 3 May defeat, Dutton did the opposite. He was criticised for not regularly fronting the Canberra press gallery and dubbed the ABC and the Guardian “hate media” in the final days before the poll.

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/aug/04/young-liberals-urge-coalition-to-distance-itself-from-sky-news-and-blame-maga-mirage-for-dutton-loss

Young Liberals urge Coalition to distance itself from Sky News and blame Maga ‘mirage’ for Dutton loss

The Young Liberals want the Coalition to distance itself from Sky News and appeal to voters through a wider variety of media outlets, blaming Donald Trump-style culture wars for Peter Dutton’s historic election rout.

In a submission to the party’s election postmortem, obtained by Guardian Australia, the New South Wales Young Liberals division said the “fringe right” of the Liberal membership had too much influence over policy and campaign media, causing “a mirage of the Maga movement” which had turned off women and multicultural voters.

The 31-page assessment, handed to the review being led by the Liberal elders Pru Goward and Nick Minchin, is scathing of the campaign run by Dutton and his frontbench team, describing them as badly outplayed by Labor and out of touch with traditional Liberal constituencies.

The document has not been released publicly and was provided to Guardian Australia on the condition of anonymity.

“The 2025 election proved that being one of the loudest media voices in the room does not mean voters are listening to you,” it said.

“Viewership data shows that most Australians do not engage with overtly political commentary on traditional media, such as evening commentators on Sky News. Yet much of our party’s policy agenda and media appearances during the campaign were stuck in a conservative echo-chamber.”

Labor won 94 seats, its biggest victory in decades, while the Coalition was reduced to 43 seats in the lower house.

Pointing to Dutton directly, the submission said the parliamentary leader must “front up” to a range of media outlets, including those not considered “traditionally friendly” to the Liberal and Nationals parties.

In the lead-up to his 3 May defeat, Dutton did the opposite. He was criticised for not regularly fronting the Canberra press gallery and dubbed the ABC and the Guardian “hate media” in the final days before the poll.

In part, this is correct, but they still don’t get it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The 2025 election proved that being one of the loudest media voices in the room does not mean voters are listening to you,” it said.

Libs need to listen to the voters, not the other way around.

Labor has said it will be “stepping up” negotiations with the crossbench because the Liberals haven’t shown how they can reach the 18 seats they need to form government in Tasmania.

However, Labor says it will only work with the six crossbenchers — ruling out further discussions with Greens.

This plan also leaves Labor short of 18 seats.

Labor continues ‘no deal with Greens’ approach
Labor Leader Dean Winter described Mr Rockliff as “pig-headed”.

“The premier’s comments over the last couple of days that he’s prepared to go into parliament without 18 votes is disturbing,” Mr Winter said.

“Given the premier’s lack of activity, his lack of progress over the course of the last two weeks, Tasmanian Labor will be stepping up our engagement with the crossbench, in particular with the independents.

“We will be meeting with the independents and presenting to them formally our plan to make this parliament work to provide stability and confidence to Tasmanians and to make this parliament last for four years.”

Mr Winter last week had a brief discussion with Greens Leader Rosalie Woodruff, but he said that is where it ends.

“We haven’t had any further discussions with the Greens and we’re not seeking to meet with them as part of the process I’m outlining today,” he said.

“We won’t do deals with the Greens.”
Asked if he wanted the Greens to back him without any further discussions, Mr Winter said “the Greens will make their own decisions”.

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-05/dean-winter-labor-crossbench-rockliff-minority-government/105615558

Did the Greens run over Dean Winter’s dog or something?

dv said:

Labor has said it will be “stepping up” negotiations with the crossbench because the Liberals haven’t shown how they can reach the 18 seats they need to form government in Tasmania.

However, Labor says it will only work with the six crossbenchers — ruling out further discussions with Greens.

This plan also leaves Labor short of 18 seats.

Labor continues ‘no deal with Greens’ approach
Labor Leader Dean Winter described Mr Rockliff as “pig-headed”.

“The premier’s comments over the last couple of days that he’s prepared to go into parliament without 18 votes is disturbing,” Mr Winter said.

“Given the premier’s lack of activity, his lack of progress over the course of the last two weeks, Tasmanian Labor will be stepping up our engagement with the crossbench, in particular with the independents.

“We will be meeting with the independents and presenting to them formally our plan to make this parliament work to provide stability and confidence to Tasmanians and to make this parliament last for four years.”

Mr Winter last week had a brief discussion with Greens Leader Rosalie Woodruff, but he said that is where it ends.

“We haven’t had any further discussions with the Greens and we’re not seeking to meet with them as part of the process I’m outlining today,” he said.

“We won’t do deals with the Greens.”
Asked if he wanted the Greens to back him without any further discussions, Mr Winter said “the Greens will make their own decisions”.

——-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-05/dean-winter-labor-crossbench-rockliff-minority-government/105615558

Did the Greens run over Dean Winter’s dog or something?

And so the clowning clatters on…

dv said:

Labor has said it will be “stepping up” negotiations with the crossbench because the Liberals haven’t shown how they can reach the 18 seats they need to form government in Tasmania.

However, Labor says it will only work with the six crossbenchers — ruling out further discussions with Greens.

This plan also leaves Labor short of 18 seats.

Labor continues ‘no deal with Greens’ approach
Labor Leader Dean Winter described Mr Rockliff as “pig-headed”.

“The premier’s comments over the last couple of days that he’s prepared to go into parliament without 18 votes is disturbing,” Mr Winter said.

“Given the premier’s lack of activity, his lack of progress over the course of the last two weeks, Tasmanian Labor will be stepping up our engagement with the crossbench, in particular with the independents.

“We will be meeting with the independents and presenting to them formally our plan to make this parliament work to provide stability and confidence to Tasmanians and to make this parliament last for four years.”

Mr Winter last week had a brief discussion with Greens Leader Rosalie Woodruff, but he said that is where it ends.

“We haven’t had any further discussions with the Greens and we’re not seeking to meet with them as part of the process I’m outlining today,” he said.

“We won’t do deals with the Greens.”
Asked if he wanted the Greens to back him without any further discussions, Mr Winter said “the Greens will make their own decisions”.

——-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-05/dean-winter-labor-crossbench-rockliff-minority-government/105615558

Did the Greens run over Dean Winter’s dog or something?

How long before the Feds piss em all off and bung in an administrator?

Ian said:

dv said:

Labor has said it will be “stepping up” negotiations with the crossbench because the Liberals haven’t shown how they can reach the 18 seats they need to form government in Tasmania.

However, Labor says it will only work with the six crossbenchers — ruling out further discussions with Greens.

This plan also leaves Labor short of 18 seats.

Labor continues ‘no deal with Greens’ approach
Labor Leader Dean Winter described Mr Rockliff as “pig-headed”.

“The premier’s comments over the last couple of days that he’s prepared to go into parliament without 18 votes is disturbing,” Mr Winter said.

“Given the premier’s lack of activity, his lack of progress over the course of the last two weeks, Tasmanian Labor will be stepping up our engagement with the crossbench, in particular with the independents.

“We will be meeting with the independents and presenting to them formally our plan to make this parliament work to provide stability and confidence to Tasmanians and to make this parliament last for four years.”

Mr Winter last week had a brief discussion with Greens Leader Rosalie Woodruff, but he said that is where it ends.

“We haven’t had any further discussions with the Greens and we’re not seeking to meet with them as part of the process I’m outlining today,” he said.

“We won’t do deals with the Greens.”
Asked if he wanted the Greens to back him without any further discussions, Mr Winter said “the Greens will make their own decisions”.

——-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-05/dean-winter-labor-crossbench-rockliff-minority-government/105615558

Did the Greens run over Dean Winter’s dog or something?

How long before the Feds piss em all off and bung in an administrator?

Several decades of one failed referendum after another, finally leading to a civil war.

Won’t be in our lifetimes.

party_pants said:

Ian said:

dv said:

Labor has said it will be “stepping up” negotiations with the crossbench because the Liberals haven’t shown how they can reach the 18 seats they need to form government in Tasmania.

However, Labor says it will only work with the six crossbenchers — ruling out further discussions with Greens.

This plan also leaves Labor short of 18 seats.

Labor continues ‘no deal with Greens’ approach
Labor Leader Dean Winter described Mr Rockliff as “pig-headed”.

“The premier’s comments over the last couple of days that he’s prepared to go into parliament without 18 votes is disturbing,” Mr Winter said.

“Given the premier’s lack of activity, his lack of progress over the course of the last two weeks, Tasmanian Labor will be stepping up our engagement with the crossbench, in particular with the independents.

“We will be meeting with the independents and presenting to them formally our plan to make this parliament work to provide stability and confidence to Tasmanians and to make this parliament last for four years.”

Mr Winter last week had a brief discussion with Greens Leader Rosalie Woodruff, but he said that is where it ends.

“We haven’t had any further discussions with the Greens and we’re not seeking to meet with them as part of the process I’m outlining today,” he said.

“We won’t do deals with the Greens.”
Asked if he wanted the Greens to back him without any further discussions, Mr Winter said “the Greens will make their own decisions”.

——-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-05/dean-winter-labor-crossbench-rockliff-minority-government/105615558

Did the Greens run over Dean Winter’s dog or something?

How long before the Feds piss em all off and bung in an administrator?

Several decades of one failed referendum after another, finally leading to a civil war.

Won’t be in our lifetimes.

Quitter talk. That WAlien government’s on the nose I hear.

Then there’s Kweenzland.. Vic… NT of course… and that Minns has to go.. what a prick…

Ian said:

party_pants said:

Ian said:

How long before the Feds piss em all off and bung in an administrator?

Several decades of one failed referendum after another, finally leading to a civil war.

Won’t be in our lifetimes.

Quitter talk. That WAlien government’s on the nose I hear.

Then there’s Kweenzland.. Vic… NT of course… and that Minns has to go.. what a prick…

Mate, do you even … constitution?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-06/jeremy-rockliff-visit-governor-attempt-to-form-government/105614668

Rockliff has visited the Governor to ask to be recommissioned

He left without speaking to reporters so it is possible he got told no.

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-06/jeremy-rockliff-visit-governor-attempt-to-form-government/105614668

Rockliff has visited the Governor to ask to be recommissioned

He left without speaking to reporters so it is possible he got told no.

Tasmania’s Liberal government has been recommissioned following weeks of political limbo after a snap election that failed to deliver either major party a majority.

Premier Jeremy Rockliff met with Governor Barbara Baker on Wednesday at Government House to formally ask for his minority government to remain.

Ms Baker accepted the request after Mr Rockliff told her he expected to gain the confidence of the lower house, the governor revealed in a statement.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-06/jeremy-rockliff-visit-governor-attempt-to-form-government/105614668

Rockliff has visited the Governor to ask to be recommissioned

He left without speaking to reporters so it is possible he got told no.

Tasmania’s Liberal government has been recommissioned following weeks of political limbo after a snap election that failed to deliver either major party a majority.

Premier Jeremy Rockliff met with Governor Barbara Baker on Wednesday at Government House to formally ask for his minority government to remain.

Ms Baker accepted the request after Mr Rockliff told her he expected to gain the confidence of the lower house, the governor revealed in a statement.

There’s been some speculation about how the betting houses are going to handle this.

New House of Assembly meets on 19 Aug.

The previous speaker, ALP’s Michelle O’Byrne, retired before the last election. Premier Rockliff will need to appoint a speaker to open the House. It would not surprise me if the speaker is not a Liberal.

A motion of no confidence will then be moved. JR has 12 days to find 3 independents who will guarantee conf and sup (I’m assuming Shooters are locked in).
Brinkmanship between the ALP and Greens means he’s in with a shot but we’ll see what happens.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-06/fresh-no-confidence-motion-to-be-moved-in-rockliff-government/105620106

And I thought Hastie had half a braincell:

…

Right-wing group targets ‘weakling’ Liberals, as Hastie pushes Ley to dump net zero

By Paul Sakkal
August 10, 2025 — 6.51pm

A right-wing activist group which came to prominence campaigning against the proposed Indigenous Voice to parliament, has launched a campaign to kill off “weakling” Liberals who support the net zero climate target, heightening Coalition tension over energy policy.

As Liberal frontbencher Andrew Hastie doubled down on his opposition to the 2050 climate pledge, campaign group Advance, formerly known as Advance Australia, is making the tensions over Coalition energy policy its focus after the opposition’s election drubbing.

Advance has been soliciting donations and urging thousands of supporters to target MPs who back the 2050 climate goal, despite the Coalition losing nearly all its city-based seats where climate change is of concern to voters.

“Politicians of all sides, from Labor to the climate weaklings in the Liberal Party and Nationals, have come out and thrown their support behind this destructive policy,” Advance said in an email sent on Friday.

“We’re building a NATIONWIDE pressure campaign forcing the politicians in Canberra to LISTEN. Not just Labor. It’s the Net Zero suck-ups in the Liberal Party and Nationals, too.

“Our message is simple: Dump Net Zero, or we dump YOU.”

Advance secured $15.6 million in donations during the 2023-24 financial year. It is associated with the right flank of the Liberal Party and employs former party operatives.

Its claims of election-shifting influence have previously been questioned, but its attention-grabbing style and populist appeal have threatened Coalition fundraising and volunteer networks.

Advance was contacted for comment.

The push to get rid of the net zero target has a key supporter in Hastie, the Coalition’s home affairs spokesman. Opposition Leader Sussan Ley has put all policies, including emissions reduction, up for review, prompting another bout of debate on the cost of adopting green energy.

Hastie said on Sunday that he believed transitioning away from fossil fuels too quickly would force heavy industries reliant on cheap energy to close. He backed a move last month by the West Australian Liberal Party to dump net zero, challenging Ley’s preference for an orderly review to evaluate the merits of the policy.

“Climate change has been occurring throughout history. The question is, how much does Australia have a role in changing the climate when we produce 1.1 per cent of the world’s emissions?” Hastie said on Sky News’ Sunday Agenda.

He repeated his ambition to one day lead the party but emphasised that “right now, Sussan Ley is our leader, and we’re doing everything we can to build a platform”.

Liberal frontbencher Tim Wilson, who defeated climate-focussed teal MP Zoe Daniel in the Melbourne seat of Goldstein, questioned the binary debate about the merits of the net zero pledge.

“Under a legislated net zero target, Labor is opening new coal mines, extending the life of gas projects and all voted for billions in new coal and gas subsidies, so it seems like a debate to set up a straw man, when the real focus should be how we get energy policy reorientated back to a focus on price and reliability again,” he said.

Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen seized on Hastie’s remarks, saying: “What we’re seeing from the Coalition is chaos and confusion. Some say net zero is essential for Australia’s future, others call it ‘lunacy’ – and they expect Australians to take them seriously on energy policy?”

The Liberal MP who replaced former prime minister Scott Morrison in the seat of Cook, Simon Kennedy, gained support internally when he stood up at a party room meeting in July to say the Coalition was wedging itself by publicly debating the 2050 target.

Energy prices should be one of Labor’s biggest vulnerabilities, Kennedy said in the same week Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce pushed the 2050 target into the spotlight. Yet the Coalition had dealt itself out of the conversation by creating a “a false dichotomy … between lowering energy prices and lowering emissions”, Kennedy told colleagues, as first reported by Guardian Australia.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/right-wing-group-targets-weakling-liberals-as-hastie-pushes-ley-to-dump-net-zero-20250810-p5mlpx.html

Negotiations ensue in Taswegia.

Labor has offered the position of Treasurer to independent upper house member Ruth Forrest. She has been in the Legislative Council for 20 years. She’s accepted the offer, releasing the statement saying that she’ll maintain independence but that “The appointment of an ideological warrior as the new Treasurer was the decider for me.” (She’s referring to Rockliff’s appointment of Eric Abetz to the treasury last week).

Pretty good statement below. Summarises the problems with JR’s govt.

https://ruthforrest.com.au/electorate-updates/why-i-decided-to-accept-to-position-of-treasurer-if-tasmania-has-a-labor-minority-government-2/

Meanwhile Labor has released a statement outlining their plans for greater accountability and transparency.

https://tasmanianinquirer.com.au/news/analysis-tasmanian-labor-releases-integrity-lite-policy-in-hope-of-luring-independents-support/

Split in Albanese’s caucus as government moves to kill AI laws

By Paul Sakkal
August 11, 2025 — 4.53am

Labor is about to dump proposed new laws to regulate artificial intelligence as Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s caucus splits on whether to clamp down on the sprawling technology.

Underlining a growing appetite in the cabinet to seize what the Productivity Commission says could be a $200 billion boon, assistant minister Andrew Charlton will lead a delegation to the US this week to meet executives from powerhouse firms OpenAI, Nvidia and Amazon Web Services.

But Labor is confronting union calls to protect workers from replacement as it tries to deal Australia into the AI race. Backbencher Ed Husic is also urging Labor to push ahead with a new AI regulatory act he first proposed when he was a minister in Labor’s first term in office.

According to four government sources, including two ministers, none of whom could speak publicly about internal discussions, Labor is veering away from new laws that would deal with AI’s potential downsides.

Instead, Minister for Industry and Innovation Tim Ayres is working on a lighter touch model that will mostly adopt existing regulations in areas including privacy and copyright, avoiding new red tape that might undermine Treasurer Jim Chalmers’ second-term focus on productivity.

Husic told this masthead it was “exceptionally confident logic that can argue we don’t need an economy-wide approach to a technology that will likely touch every corner of the economy”.

“After consulting on this extensively for nearly two years, I formed a view that it’s better to get a solid framework up front … to help deal with high AI risks,” he said.

Husic, who sparred with Chalmers in cabinet when he served as industry and science minister before being axed on factional grounds, claimed a “Whac-A-Mole regulatory approach” would lead to course corrections in future.

A spokesman for Ayres was contacted for comment.

Labor senator Michelle Ananda-Rajah, a leading researcher on using AI to diagnose disease before she entered parliament, has been lobbying colleagues to embrace the new technology. She said she was “trenchantly opposed” to Husic’s model, which she claimed would stymie a local AI industry and deprive the nation of wealth.

The Australian Council of Trade Unions, which holds sway with dozens of MPs in the Labor caucus, is demanding legislation to bar AI in businesses that cannot reach agreements with workers. Pushing in the other direction are the Coalition, business groups and the Productivity Commission, which urged the government to spurn calls for binding regulation on AI because it could be the best fix for declining living standards in a generation.

The contest over AI policy has sharpened ahead of Labor’s economic roundtable later this month, where the tech revolution will be a flashpoint between business groups and some economists on one side and unions and more pro-regulation voices on the other.

Chalmers last week said he wanted to find a “sensible middle path which recognises the big economic upside of artificial intelligence without forgetting our primary responsibility is to people and workers”.

The EU’s move to take a world-leading role in regulating AI has attracted the ire of the Trump administration, which has close links to tech billionaires and Silicon Valley. Britain has also put on the backburner its plans to guard against the potentially harmful elements of AI, which could include job losses, uncontrollable bots, deepfakes and privacy violations.

Opponents of an AI act believe local laws would do little to curb any possible harm given Australia has no major AI firms in its jurisdiction. Specific pitfalls, such as sexually explicit deepfake images, were better dealt with by new criminal laws, they say.

Debate began last week on whether large-language models such as ChatGPT should be exempted from copyright laws so they can be trained on news and music content. Executives from News Corp and Nine Entertainment, owner of this masthead, argued such a move would amount to theft.

The media bosses were self-serving and prioritising faltering business models ahead of the national interest, Ananda-Rajah said.

“It is not theft,” she said, but rather a move that would hand Australian alternatives to ChatGPT, such as the one being developed by local firm Maincode, access to content that would allow them to build a domestic AI sector.

“It’s not necessarily going to stop people from buying that book or reading that newspaper article in the format that they have.

“Why would we, even before we get to create , regulate with a specific act?

“If we ring-fence our own data, then we are cutting ourselves off at the knees from the very beginning. I have seen the depth of the talent we have in Australia, and it would be an absolute travesty if we let this innovation wave pass us by.”

However, Maincode boss Dave Lemphers, who is building what could be Australia’s answer to OpenAI, told The Australian Financial Review on Thursday that the copyright change proposed by the Productivity Commission was wrong and that firms were already scraping content without proper compensation.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/split-in-albanese-s-caucus-as-government-moves-to-kill-ai-laws-20250808-p5mlic.html

Coalition leader Sussan Ley has said that she would revoke Australia’s recognition of a Palestinian State if they were to win the next election.

I do wonder if the LibNats can’t read the room, or just choose not to.

diddly-squat said:

Coalition leader Sussan Ley has said that she would revoke Australia’s recognition of a Palestinian State if they were to win the next election.

I do wonder if the LibNats can’t read the room, or just choose not to.

They have their own squalid little backrooms to read.

diddly-squat said:

Coalition leader Sussan Ley has said that she would revoke Australia’s recognition of a Palestinian State if they were to win the next election.

I do wonder if the LibNats can’t read the room, or just choose not to.

As of March 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 76% of all UN members.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Palestine

She sounds out of touch. Maybe she wants to appeal to those who support Israel?

Tau.Neutrino said:

diddly-squat said:

Coalition leader Sussan Ley has said that she would revoke Australia’s recognition of a Palestinian State if they were to win the next election.

I do wonder if the LibNats can’t read the room, or just choose not to.

As of March 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 76% of all UN members.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Palestine

She sounds out of touch. Maybe she wants to appeal to those who support Israel?

The libs were out of touch before and during the election and they are still out of touch months after the election.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

diddly-squat said:

Coalition leader Sussan Ley has said that she would revoke Australia’s recognition of a Palestinian State if they were to win the next election.

I do wonder if the LibNats can’t read the room, or just choose not to.

As of March 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 76% of all UN members.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Palestine

She sounds out of touch. Maybe she wants to appeal to those who support Israel?

The libs were out of touch before and during the election and they are still out of touch months after the election.

Is that normal for them.? Maybe that’s their policy now? To stay out of touch?

Here are the countries that have recognized a Palestinian state

diddly-squat said:

Coalition leader Sussan Ley has said that she would revoke Australia’s recognition of a Palestinian State if they were to win the next election.

I do wonder if the LibNats can’t read the room, or just choose not to.

The Libs do follow the lines espoused by the Murdoch media. And Rupert has been, and continues to be very pro-Israel. And very anti renewables.
I wonder if his stake in a US energy company that has been drilling in the Golan Heights has anything to do with it. Oh, and apparently there are even more extensive gas and oil reserves off the coast of Israel.
Or am I weaving a tangled web here?

Tau.Neutrino said:

diddly-squat said:

Coalition leader Sussan Ley has said that she would revoke Australia’s recognition of a Palestinian State if they were to win the next election.

I do wonder if the LibNats can’t read the room, or just choose not to.

As of March 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 76% of all UN members.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Palestine

She sounds out of touch. Maybe she wants to appeal to those who support Israel?

All this tiptoeing around so we don’t offend someone committing crimes against humanity.

https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/australian-politics/2025/08/09/tim-wilson-work-home-liberals

Link

This week, watching Tim Wilson and the Liberals attempt to reignite the work-from-home debate, just months after the Coalition was forced to dump its policy to force the public service back into the office mid-election because of how unpopular it was, brought the frog and the scorpion front of mind.

Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan announced plans last week to enshrine employees’ rights to work from home for at least two days a week in law, setting off the predictable culture war over whether workers deserve any gains.

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/australian-politics/2025/08/09/tim-wilson-work-home-liberals

Link

This week, watching Tim Wilson and the Liberals attempt to reignite the work-from-home debate, just months after the Coalition was forced to dump its policy to force the public service back into the office mid-election because of how unpopular it was, brought the frog and the scorpion front of mind.

Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan announced plans last week to enshrine employees’ rights to work from home for at least two days a week in law, setting off the predictable culture war over whether workers deserve any gains.

Which reminds me that I have now worked from home for the past 25 years :)

And no Wilson is going to stop me.

buffy said:

The Friends School in Hobart is standing on its principles.

ABC news item

My brother’s children went to that school.

can’t they instead simply promote STEM programmes that are independent of such vested interests

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

The Friends School in Hobart is standing on its principles.

ABC news item

My brother’s children went to that school.

can’t they instead simply promote STEM programmes that are independent of such vested interests

They could, if there’s enough funding for such projects.

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

The Friends School in Hobart is standing on its principles.

ABC news item

My brother’s children went to that school.

can’t they instead simply promote STEM programmes that are independent of such vested interests

They could, if there’s enough funding for such projects.

so what we must conclude is that nobody is more generous and altruistic than weapons manufacturers

MICFTW¡

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

can’t they instead simply promote STEM programmes that are independent of such vested interests

They could, if there’s enough funding for such projects.

so what we must conclude is that nobody is more generous and altruistic than weapons manufacturers

MICFTW¡

Kerry Packer didn’t donate to charities from the goodness of his heart. I’m no tax expert, just sayin.

There have been scuffles and angry confrontations between police and protesters who converged on Melbourne’s CBD to counter a women’s rights rally.

Vision shows a group of people dressed in black with their faces covered clashing with officers on Russell Street on Saturday morning.

It is believed the group was connected to a counter-protest against a Women Will Speak rally being held on the steps of state parliament on nearby Spring Street.
A group of police officers in yellow vests scuffle with people dressed in black in a city street.

Last year Senator Payman was ultimately suspended from the Labor Party for crossing the floor to support a motion to recognise Palestine.

dv said:

Last year Senator Payman was ultimately suspended from the Labor Party for crossing the floor to support a motion to recognise Palestine.

LOL

dv said:

Last year Senator Payman was ultimately suspended from the Labor Party for crossing the floor to support a motion to recognise Palestine.

That was then, this is now.

dv said:

Last year Senator Payman was ultimately suspended from the Labor Party for crossing the floor to support a motion to recognise Palestine.

Ouch!

Michael V said:

dv said:

Last year Senator Payman was ultimately suspended from the Labor Party for crossing the floor to support a motion to recognise Palestine.

Ouch!

so now they can all join her party

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Last year Senator Payman was ultimately suspended from the Labor Party for crossing the floor to support a motion to recognise Palestine.

That was then, this is now.

it’s been said in other social mediums that one day, everyone will always have been against genocide

I’d never heard of number 2. And I broke the circled rule 👍🏼

Divine Angel said:

I’d never heard of number 2. And I broke the circled rule 👍🏼

what are the good things they do

Divine Angel said:

I’d never heard of number 2. And I broke the circled rule 👍🏼

I’ve only heard of about half of them. I musta been living under a rock.

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

I’d never heard of number 2. And I broke the circled rule 👍🏼

I’ve only heard of about half of them. I musta been living under a rock.

Well, I knew the Canva people were up there but I didn’t know their names.

Divine Angel said:

I’d never heard of number 2. And I broke the circled rule 👍🏼

I had heard of 1,2,3
but not 4,5,6
but had, 7,8,9

which is a bit strange.

I only learned Scott Farquhar’s name last week because he wants Australia to change its copyright laws to give AI “unobstructed access” to data. And the other Atlassian guy was in the news for firing 150 humans in favour of AI.

Can’t say I blame ‘em

dv said:

Can’t say I blame ‘em

might give that one a miss.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Can’t say I blame ‘em

might give that one a miss.

Better still, I’ll give it a ms.

Divine Angel said:

I only learned Scott Farquhar’s name last week because he wants Australia to change its copyright laws to give AI “unobstructed access” to data. And the other Atlassian guy was in the news for firing 150 humans in favour of AI.

I came across a tradesman with the first name of Farquhar. Another said he’s known as Farquey… but he prefers Brian.

so in summary nobody can identify any good things that they do

SCIENCE said:

so in summary nobody can identify any good things that they do

I’m careful with litter.

Rockliff has been making policy concessions to the crossbench on environmental issues, such as halting salmon farming expansion plans and abandoning the plan to allow further logging under the Future Potential Production Forest. Winter is still insisting that there will be no policy trading at this stage.

Tuesday is when parliament returns, and Labor will put up its no confidence motion. At present, they don’t have the numbers.

SCIENCE said:

so in summary nobody can identify any good things that they do

Andrew Forrest is quite progressive with the renewable energy initiatives he has supported like the Australia-Asia Power Link and various Green Hydrogen proposals that have unfortunately not come to fruition.

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

I’d never heard of number 2. And I broke the circled rule 👍🏼

what are the good things they do

They help to ensure that, unlike them, the great majority of us will never have to endure the burden and stress of having more money than we know what to do with.

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

I’d never heard of number 2. And I broke the circled rule 👍🏼

what are the good things they do

They help to ensure that, unlike them, the great majority of us will never have to endure the burden and stress of having more money than we know what to do with.

How very thoughtful of them.

;)

Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

I’d never heard of number 2. And I broke the circled rule 👍🏼

what are the good things they do

so in summary nobody can identify any good things that they do

I’m careful with litter.

Andrew Forrest is quite progressive with the renewable energy initiatives he has supported like the Australia-Asia Power Link and various Green Hydrogen proposals that have unfortunately not come to fruition.

They help to ensure that, unlike them, the great majority of us will never have to endure the burden and stress of having more money than we know what to do with.

How very thoughtful of them.

;)

ah well we suppose we’ll just jealously continue grinding through the direct provision of labour class and wonder if apart from a few hopeful ideas the way to be super rich is to not waste money doing good for the greater

Oh look our country is now run by antifa terrorists

The Australian government has cancelled the visa of far-right Israeli politician Simcha Rothman.

Rothman is part of Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu’s governing coalition and is chair of the Constitution, Law and Justice Committee.

He has previously supported plans to remove Palestinians from Gaza and called Palestinian children Israel’s “enemies”.

Rothman was scheduled to speak at an Australian Jewish Association “solidarity tour” in Sydney next Thursday.

Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke cancelled his visa and he’s been barred from the country for three years.

“Our Government takes a hard line on people who seek to come to our country and spread division,” Burke said in a statement.

“If you are coming to Australia to spread a message of hate and division, we don’t want you here,” he says.

“Under our Government, Australia will be a country where everyone can be safe, and feel safe.”

finally who have some guts.

Tonight on the ABC someone from the so-called coalition told me that in recent times Australia had the greatest fall in living standards of any country in the developed world. (He didn’t say over what time period, but I presume he meant when his crowd were no longer in power).

Is that true?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tonight on the ABC someone from the so-called coalition told me that in recent times Australia had the greatest fall in living standards of any country in the developed world. (He didn’t say over what time period, but I presume he meant when his crowd were no longer in power).

Is that true?

The ABC says it is true:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-07/can-albanese-government-fix-the-economy-four-corners/105260320

I suppose I should pay more attention to the news.

The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tonight on the ABC someone from the so-called coalition told me that in recent times Australia had the greatest fall in living standards of any country in the developed world. (He didn’t say over what time period, but I presume he meant when his crowd were no longer in power).

Is that true?

The ABC says it is true:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-07/can-albanese-government-fix-the-economy-four-corners/105260320

I suppose I should pay more attention to the news.

Mainly about stagnant real wages for the last decade or so. Obviously had nothing to do with the conservative government in Canberra from 2013-2022.

The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tonight on the ABC someone from the so-called coalition told me that in recent times Australia had the greatest fall in living standards of any country in the developed world. (He didn’t say over what time period, but I presume he meant when his crowd were no longer in power).

Is that true?

The ABC says it is true:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-07/can-albanese-government-fix-the-economy-four-corners/105260320

I suppose I should pay more attention to the news.

Is that because of high rents and property prices?

“The big issue for the term has been inflation which rose the most since 1990, the period when Australia fell into a deep recession and double-digit unemployment.”

I wonder who was in charge of the economy then?

Fuck paul keating and the horse he rode in on.

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tonight on the ABC someone from the so-called coalition told me that in recent times Australia had the greatest fall in living standards of any country in the developed world. (He didn’t say over what time period, but I presume he meant when his crowd were no longer in power).

Is that true?

The ABC says it is true:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-07/can-albanese-government-fix-the-economy-four-corners/105260320

I suppose I should pay more attention to the news.

Is that because of high rents and property prices?

From the graph in the link it looks like it was mainly post covid effects + Ukraine., nothing at all to do with effects of policies during the lib years, obviously.

The recent election resulted in 16 to 19 Conservative to Progressive split. If Labor can’t form govt from here then they never will. They haven’t won a majority of the Assembly since 2006, and they aren’t likely to given that they have damaged the brand by wasting everyone’s time. If they won’t at least negotiate on policy with the Greens and leftish Indies then they won’t form government for the forseeable future.

Tomorrow is another day, and at any time Labor can change stance and operate more collaboratively and bring down Rockliff. But it doesn’t look like it will be today.

dv said:

The recent election resulted in 16 to 19 Conservative to Progressive split. If Labor can’t form govt from here then they never will. They haven’t won a majority of the Assembly since 2006, and they aren’t likely to given that they have damaged the brand by wasting everyone’s time. If they won’t at least negotiate on policy with the Greens and leftish Indies then they won’t form government for the forseeable future.

Tomorrow is another day, and at any time Labor can change stance and operate more collaboratively and bring down Rockliff. But it doesn’t look like it will be today.

Clowns all in Clown Hall, I’m afraid.

dv said:

The recent election resulted in 16 to 19 Conservative to Progressive split. If Labor can’t form govt from here then they never will. They haven’t won a majority of the Assembly since 2006, and they aren’t likely to given that they have damaged the brand by wasting everyone’s time. If they won’t at least negotiate on policy with the Greens and leftish Indies then they won’t form government for the forseeable future.

Tomorrow is another day, and at any time Labor can change stance and operate more collaboratively and bring down Rockliff. But it doesn’t look like it will be today.

Forget about all this preferential voting and Hair Shirt voting and do it like they do in the land of the Maga Carter, first past the post wins.

Tasmania’s new parliament is meeting to test confidence in Liberal premier Jeremy Rockliff’s government in the lower house.

About 2:15pm Labor leader Dean Winter moved a motion of no confidence in Mr Rockliff and his government, while also expressing confidence in a Labor government.

Mr Winter is expected to lose the motion, with five Greens MPs along with several members of the 11-member crossbench already indicating they will not support it.

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Justin’s not getting it. The five Greens are part of the eleven member crossbench. Consider rewording.

dv said:

Tasmania’s new parliament is meeting to test confidence in Liberal premier Jeremy Rockliff’s government in the lower house.

About 2:15pm Labor leader Dean Winter moved a motion of no confidence in Mr Rockliff and his government, while also expressing confidence in a Labor government.

Mr Winter is expected to lose the motion, with five Greens MPs along with several members of the 11-member crossbench already indicating they will not support it.

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Justin’s not getting it. The five Greens are part of the eleven member crossbench. Consider rewording.

They’re missing a word: other.

dv said:

Tasmania’s new parliament is meeting to test confidence in Liberal premier Jeremy Rockliff’s government in the lower house.

About 2:15pm Labor leader Dean Winter moved a motion of no confidence in Mr Rockliff and his government, while also expressing confidence in a Labor government.

Mr Winter is expected to lose the motion, with five Greens MPs along with several members of the 11-member crossbench already indicating they will not support it.

—-
Justin’s not getting it. The five Greens are part of the eleven member crossbench. Consider rewording.

appears they have.

so Woodruff is the key?

Maybe they should just get used to annual elections. Lots of fun for out-of-state psephology nerds, perhaps not so fun for Taswegian voters.

Texas had annual legislative elections during their brief period of independence.

ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

Tasmania’s new parliament is meeting to test confidence in Liberal premier Jeremy Rockliff’s government in the lower house.

About 2:15pm Labor leader Dean Winter moved a motion of no confidence in Mr Rockliff and his government, while also expressing confidence in a Labor government.

Mr Winter is expected to lose the motion, with five Greens MPs along with several members of the 11-member crossbench already indicating they will not support it.

—-
Justin’s not getting it. The five Greens are part of the eleven member crossbench. Consider rewording.

appears they have.

so Woodruff is the key?

All 4 Independents are saying they will not back the motions so even if the Greens back down, ALP still doesn’t have the numbers.

Dean Winter is the key (or, perhaps more likely, his successor, since I assume his position as leader is rickety after all this. )

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dv said:

ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

Tasmania’s new parliament is meeting to test confidence in Liberal premier Jeremy Rockliff’s government in the lower house.

About 2:15pm Labor leader Dean Winter moved a motion of no confidence in Mr Rockliff and his government, while also expressing confidence in a Labor government.

Mr Winter is expected to lose the motion, with five Greens MPs along with several members of the 11-member crossbench already indicating they will not support it.

—-
Justin’s not getting it. The five Greens are part of the eleven member crossbench. Consider rewording.

appears they have.

so Woodruff is the key?

All 4 Independents are saying they will not back the motions so even if the Greens back down, ALP still doesn’t have the numbers.

Dean Winter is the key (or, perhaps more likely, his successor, since I assume his position as leader is rickety after all this. )

the key bit was a funny for those that know metalworkings.

ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

Tasmania’s new parliament is meeting to test confidence in Liberal premier Jeremy Rockliff’s government in the lower house.

About 2:15pm Labor leader Dean Winter moved a motion of no confidence in Mr Rockliff and his government, while also expressing confidence in a Labor government.

Mr Winter is expected to lose the motion, with five Greens MPs along with several members of the 11-member crossbench already indicating they will not support it.

—-
Justin’s not getting it. The five Greens are part of the eleven member crossbench. Consider rewording.

appears they have.

so Woodruff is the key?

:)

dv said:

ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

Tasmania’s new parliament is meeting to test confidence in Liberal premier Jeremy Rockliff’s government in the lower house.

About 2:15pm Labor leader Dean Winter moved a motion of no confidence in Mr Rockliff and his government, while also expressing confidence in a Labor government.

Mr Winter is expected to lose the motion, with five Greens MPs along with several members of the 11-member crossbench already indicating they will not support it.

—-
Justin’s not getting it. The five Greens are part of the eleven member crossbench. Consider rewording.

appears they have.

so Woodruff is the key?

All 4 Independents are saying they will not back the motions so even if the Greens back down, ALP still doesn’t have the numbers.

Dean Winter is the key (or, perhaps more likely, his successor, since I assume his position as leader is rickety after all this. )

And so it came to pass. Josh Willie of the Left Faction is the new Labor leader in Tasmania.

dv said:

dv said:

ChrispenEvan said:

appears they have.

so Woodruff is the key?

All 4 Independents are saying they will not back the motions so even if the Greens back down, ALP still doesn’t have the numbers.

Dean Winter is the key (or, perhaps more likely, his successor, since I assume his position as leader is rickety after all this. )

And so it came to pass. Josh Willie of the Left Faction is the new Labor leader in Tasmania.

Deckchairs rearranged again.

dv said:

dv said:

ChrispenEvan said:

appears they have.

so Woodruff is the key?

All 4 Independents are saying they will not back the motions so even if the Greens back down, ALP still doesn’t have the numbers.

Dean Winter is the key (or, perhaps more likely, his successor, since I assume his position as leader is rickety after all this. )

And so it came to pass. Josh Willie of the Left Faction is the new Labor leader in Tasmania.

The winter of Tasmanians discontent.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

dv said:

All 4 Independents are saying they will not back the motions so even if the Greens back down, ALP still doesn’t have the numbers.

Dean Winter is the key (or, perhaps more likely, his successor, since I assume his position as leader is rickety after all this. )

And so it came to pass. Josh Willie of the Left Faction is the new Labor leader in Tasmania.

The winter of Tasmanians discontent.

made glorious summer by this willie

She doesn’t know what her party are doing in her electorate?

roughbarked said:

She doesn’t know what her party are doing in her electorate?

People believe it.
They had an article on something similar and it was very anti immigration.

How much of the housing crisis is peoples greed and nothing to so with government policy or immigration.

And her argument that the case could have turned out differently if a varying set of allegations had been put to Mr Lehrmann was met with confusion by the three-judge bench.

“You need to explain why it is a different case,” Justice Craig Colvin told Ms Burrows.

“His Honour (Justice Lee) didn’t find sex on a different day … with a different lead up of different circumstances …

“The findings His Honour has made are all within the four corners of what was described.

“It is all very well to say these things out loud, but you need to explain why this is a different case.”
Justice Michael Wigney also pointed out that Mr Lehrmann has consistently maintained his innocence and that no sexual intercourse took place.

He told Ms Burrows it would not have made sense for Mr Lerhmann to have faced questions about the nature of an act he was denying.

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-22/bruce-lehrmann-defamation-appeal-lawyer-struggles/105683018

Got to wonder why she took the case

$$$

dv said:

And her argument that the case could have turned out differently if a varying set of allegations had been put to Mr Lehrmann was met with confusion by the three-judge bench.

“You need to explain why it is a different case,” Justice Craig Colvin told Ms Burrows.

“His Honour (Justice Lee) didn’t find sex on a different day … with a different lead up of different circumstances …

“The findings His Honour has made are all within the four corners of what was described.

“It is all very well to say these things out loud, but you need to explain why this is a different case.”
Justice Michael Wigney also pointed out that Mr Lehrmann has consistently maintained his innocence and that no sexual intercourse took place.

He told Ms Burrows it would not have made sense for Mr Lerhmann to have faced questions about the nature of an act he was denying.

—-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-22/bruce-lehrmann-defamation-appeal-lawyer-struggles/105683018

Got to wonder why she took the case

It is a job.

dv said:

And her argument that the case could have turned out differently if a varying set of allegations had been put to Mr Lehrmann was met with confusion by the three-judge bench.

“You need to explain why it is a different case,” Justice Craig Colvin told Ms Burrows.

“His Honour (Justice Lee) didn’t find sex on a different day … with a different lead up of different circumstances …

“The findings His Honour has made are all within the four corners of what was described.

“It is all very well to say these things out loud, but you need to explain why this is a different case.”
Justice Michael Wigney also pointed out that Mr Lehrmann has consistently maintained his innocence and that no sexual intercourse took place.

He told Ms Burrows it would not have made sense for Mr Lerhmann to have faced questions about the nature of an act he was denying.

—-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-22/bruce-lehrmann-defamation-appeal-lawyer-struggles/105683018

Got to wonder why she took the case

Well, she didn’t really. She was left holding the bag.

The barrister that they wanted to have present little Brucie’s bullshit to the court said, ‘what, you again?! Fuck off!’, and the word got around in double-quick time, and no other barrister would touch it with a 10-metre barge pole with a dead dingo’s dick tied to the end of it.

So, in the absence of a suitable professional mouthpiece, Ms Burrows, a solicitor, decided she’d go into the trenches (which had the added inducement of not having to pay a barrister: she could keep that much more of the fee).

And, in so doing, she’s provided a modern-day example for law students in Australia as to why barristers stand up in court, and not solicitors.

SCIENCE said:

$$$

Yeah but apparently he ain’t got none

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

$$$

Yeah but apparently he ain’t got none

No, but he has friends who do have a bit to spare. They think that he might be useful in the future.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

$$$

Yeah but apparently he ain’t got none

Maybe it is the social/political connections.

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

$$$

Yeah but apparently he ain’t got none

No, but he has friends who do have a bit to spare. They think that he might be useful in the future.

Maybe it is the social/political connections.

we figured it was just the usual antefa vested interests pumping money into test cases for their agenda, and he was just their champion in the arena

wait

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-22/garvan-mouse-house-opposes-moss-vale-plastics-plant/105686418

so is recycling plastic good or is recycling plastic bad

Courses within teaching, languages and media among hundreds to be slashed across Australian universities
Vice-chancellors say they’ve been forced to restructure but critics point finger at ‘unaccountable’ university management

Hundreds of university courses within teaching, languages, archaeology and media are among those being slashed as the tertiary sector pushes back against “confused” government policies.

Almost half of Australia’s universities have restructured in the past year, leading to the merging or disbanding of more than 50 schools of study and drastic reductions in course options for students, particularly in the humanities.

The University of Wollongong is cutting a string of disciplines including cultural studies, languages, archaeology and linguistics, while the University of Tasmania will merge its school of humanities and social sciences, combine politics and international relations into a single major, and no longer offer German.

Southern Cross University is discontinuing undergraduate degrees in contemporary music, art, design and digital media.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/aug/24/australian-university-course-cuts-jobs

kii said:

Ah, memories…
I was in 6th form and I have fond memories of this. As the granddaughter of QLD Shearers Union members it just seemed normal to me. Nana told stories about scaling corrugated metal fences during protests to evade the police.

oh yeah the communist deep state strikes again

Queensland’s LNP premier says the federal Coalition gave up the political middle ground at the recent election, trying to appease right-wing campaign groups and minor parties.

David Crisafulli also urged the LNP not to be distracted by ideological issues or internal squabbles, as he laid out his plan to lead a multi-term state government.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-25/qld-david-crisafulli-lnp-conference-federal-election-assessment/105691480

dv said:

Queensland’s LNP premier says the federal Coalition gave up the political middle ground at the recent election, trying to appease right-wing campaign groups and minor parties.

David Crisafulli also urged the LNP not to be distracted by ideological issues or internal squabbles, as he laid out his plan to lead a multi-term state government.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-25/qld-david-crisafulli-lnp-conference-federal-election-assessment/105691480

“ He suggested that winning a second term would not be easy”

Well I agree with him on that point.

Onyas

Ian said:

Onyas

:)

Michael V said:

Ian said:

Onyas

:)

Then there’s Pat wanting to talk to Albo about $100 mill to assist with the effects of climate change on the sport.

🍿

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Foreign Minister Penny Wong are expected to make a significant foreign affairs announcement.

Meanwhile, Senator Wong says the Israeli strike on a southern Gaza hospital overnight is “horrific” and has called on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to end the war.

Just a reminder that Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will join us to answer your questions at 5:15pm (AEST). Make sure you send us your burning questions through the comments section.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-26/federal-politics-live-aug-26-prime-minister-albanese-penny-wong/105695890

Sussan Ley is holding a press conference, live-streamed on an ABC near you.

“ Ley says Labor has a secret plan to tax Australians and that the opposition will be pursuing the matter in Question Time today.”

5m ago
PM to hold press conference shortly

Courtney Gould profile image
By Courtney Gould

Breaking in to our coverage of Sussan Ley to confirm Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will hold his own press conference in around 15 minutes time.

Stick around, we’ll bring you all the updates as they come in.

Divine Angel said:

Sussan Ley is holding a press conference, live-streamed on an ABC near you.

I turned her off. She’s the local member.

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Sussan Ley is holding a press conference, live-streamed on an ABC near you.

I turned her off. She’s the local member.

I’m not sure why she needed a press conference to rant about net zero and condemning the bombing of a Gazan hospital.

Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Sussan Ley is holding a press conference, live-streamed on an ABC near you.

I turned her off. She’s the local member.

I’m not sure why she needed a press conference to rant about net zero and condemning the bombing of a Gazan hospital.

I don’t hold a lot of hope for her leading the coalition anywhere fast.

The PM says the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, or IRGC, will be listed as a terrorist organisation, And has declared the Iranian ambassador and three other officials persona non grata and kicked ‘em out of Australia.

WOW!! rubs hands

Haven’t had an expulsion of The Ambassador since…. oh. phwoar….. well before the war!!

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. I call on the Minister to expel The Ambassador and recall all Embassy diplomats.

Oh……..and better make sure the doors are locked on the way out and cancel the newspaper and morning milk deliveries.

Woodie said:

WOW!! rubs hands

Haven’t had an expulsion of The Ambassador since…. oh. phwoar….. well before the war!!

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. I call on the Minister to expel The Ambassador and recall all Embassy diplomats.

Oh……..and better make sure the doors are locked on the way out and cancel the newspaper and morning milk deliveries.

and then fly to Dover?

Woodie said:

WOW!! rubs hands

Haven’t had an expulsion of The Ambassador since…. oh. phwoar….. well before the war!!

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. I call on the Minister to expel The Ambassador and recall all Embassy diplomats.

Oh……..and better make sure the doors are locked on the way out and cancel the newspaper and morning milk deliveries.

Milk Delivereries would be a good nik.
Then people could say Morning Milk Deliveries.

Divine Angel said:

The PM says the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, or IRGC, will be listed as a terrorist organisation, And has declared the Iranian ambassador and three other officials persona non grata and kicked ‘em out of Australia.

Ta.

Ya know, not even the United States expelled the Ambassador after 9/11.

But we don’t put up with any nonsense or riff raff here, ya know.

We expel the Ambassador after a synagogue door gets slightly scorched and a restaurant and it customers gets roughed up a bit.

Woodie said:

Ya know, not even the United States expelled the Ambassador after 9/11.

But we don’t put up with any nonsense or riff raff here, ya know.

We expel the Ambassador after a synagogue door gets slightly scorched and a restaurant and it customers gets roughed up a bit.

I heard it was a country starting with I so I assumed Iswatini

Linda Reynolds has won the defamation case she brought against Brittnay Higgins

diddly-squat said:

Linda Reynolds has won the defamation case she brought against Brittnay Higgins

Reynolds is a psychopathic piece of shit.

diddly-squat said:

Linda Reynolds has won the defamation case she brought against Brittnay Higgins

Move along. Nothing to see here.

There’ll be an appeal.

Carrick Ryan

When I look at Sovereign Citizens, I see a movement built upon manufactured grievance, tyranny, and expertise. This patently absurd belief system seduces them with these three tenets for many reasons, but primarily it’s because it absolves them of their own mediocrity.

“Grievance” assures them that the underwhelming achievements of their life are due to unjust persecution rather than their own incompetence or failures. Especially for demographics who have never experienced genuine oppression in their life, this fictional narrative affords them the status of victim, thus forgiving them of their observably unimpressive achievements.

“Tyranny” provides a sense of order to a chaotic world, and neatly personifies the mildest malignancies of life into a sinister conspiracy. It takes a degree of maturity to accept that the human experience is often unavoidably punctuated by meaningless and uncontrolled hardship, suffering, and tragedy. By attributing any execrated event to some malevolent force it offers a simpler dichotomy to the morality of life. Dedicating oneself to the resistance of this nebulous tyrannical system induces a positive sense of purpose to many who have spent their life without one.

“Expertise” is perhaps the most alluring of this movement’s offerings, as it secretes within the adherent a sense of intellectual superiority that is otherwise rejected by the institutions of modern life. Within the parameters of academia and professional life, these are almost always demonstrably unexceptional protagonists. But within their entirely fictional field of study, they are the intellectual masters of authority. They believe they are privy to a truth that the rest of us are too ill-informed, ignorant, or indoctrinated to see. They are, finally, smarter than everyone else.

Add to this the standard psychological attraction to fringe movements; a sense of belonging, community, and purpose, amplified by the toxic reinforcement of social media, and we have the inevitable infrastructure of a dangerous cult-like subculture, made ever more threatening by the prevalence of a predominantly white constituency who have never known real injustice.

These are men and women born into one of the most fortunate circumstances available to humanity, and have still managed to convince themselves of their inescapable victimhood. They have identified tyranny within a society that is among the most free in history, and manifested injustice in the face of democratically enacted statutes.

They have exhausted the tolerance of a legal system which affords extraordinary protections upon even the most antagonistic of participants. But now our patience must be extended no further.

As with any ideology or religion, you are entitled to your delusions until they endanger the rest of us.

Designate them as terrorists. Take their guns away. Convict those who promote violence.

We are no longer amused.

ChrispenEvan said:

Carrick Ryan

When I look at Sovereign Citizens, I see a movement built upon manufactured grievance, tyranny, and expertise. This patently absurd belief system seduces them with these three tenets for many reasons, but primarily it’s because it absolves them of their own mediocrity.

“Grievance” assures them that the underwhelming achievements of their life are due to unjust persecution rather than their own incompetence or failures. Especially for demographics who have never experienced genuine oppression in their life, this fictional narrative affords them the status of victim, thus forgiving them of their observably unimpressive achievements.

“Tyranny” provides a sense of order to a chaotic world, and neatly personifies the mildest malignancies of life into a sinister conspiracy. It takes a degree of maturity to accept that the human experience is often unavoidably punctuated by meaningless and uncontrolled hardship, suffering, and tragedy. By attributing any execrated event to some malevolent force it offers a simpler dichotomy to the morality of life. Dedicating oneself to the resistance of this nebulous tyrannical system induces a positive sense of purpose to many who have spent their life without one.

“Expertise” is perhaps the most alluring of this movement’s offerings, as it secretes within the adherent a sense of intellectual superiority that is otherwise rejected by the institutions of modern life. Within the parameters of academia and professional life, these are almost always demonstrably unexceptional protagonists. But within their entirely fictional field of study, they are the intellectual masters of authority. They believe they are privy to a truth that the rest of us are too ill-informed, ignorant, or indoctrinated to see. They are, finally, smarter than everyone else.

Add to this the standard psychological attraction to fringe movements; a sense of belonging, community, and purpose, amplified by the toxic reinforcement of social media, and we have the inevitable infrastructure of a dangerous cult-like subculture, made ever more threatening by the prevalence of a predominantly white constituency who have never known real injustice.

These are men and women born into one of the most fortunate circumstances available to humanity, and have still managed to convince themselves of their inescapable victimhood. They have identified tyranny within a society that is among the most free in history, and manifested injustice in the face of democratically enacted statutes.

They have exhausted the tolerance of a legal system which affords extraordinary protections upon even the most antagonistic of participants. But now our patience must be extended no further.

As with any ideology or religion, you are entitled to your delusions until they endanger the rest of us.

Designate them as terrorists. Take their guns away. Convict those who promote violence.

We are no longer amused.

What ever happened to Prince Leonard of Hutt??

ChrispenEvan said:

Carrick Ryan

When I look at Sovereign Citizens, I see a movement built upon manufactured grievance, tyranny, and expertise. This patently absurd belief system seduces them with these three tenets for many reasons, but primarily it’s because it absolves them of their own mediocrity.

“Grievance” assures them that the underwhelming achievements of their life are due to unjust persecution rather than their own incompetence or failures. Especially for demographics who have never experienced genuine oppression in their life, this fictional narrative affords them the status of victim, thus forgiving them of their observably unimpressive achievements.

“Tyranny” provides a sense of order to a chaotic world, and neatly personifies the mildest malignancies of life into a sinister conspiracy. It takes a degree of maturity to accept that the human experience is often unavoidably punctuated by meaningless and uncontrolled hardship, suffering, and tragedy. By attributing any execrated event to some malevolent force it offers a simpler dichotomy to the morality of life. Dedicating oneself to the resistance of this nebulous tyrannical system induces a positive sense of purpose to many who have spent their life without one.

“Expertise” is perhaps the most alluring of this movement’s offerings, as it secretes within the adherent a sense of intellectual superiority that is otherwise rejected by the institutions of modern life. Within the parameters of academia and professional life, these are almost always demonstrably unexceptional protagonists. But within their entirely fictional field of study, they are the intellectual masters of authority. They believe they are privy to a truth that the rest of us are too ill-informed, ignorant, or indoctrinated to see. They are, finally, smarter than everyone else.

Add to this the standard psychological attraction to fringe movements; a sense of belonging, community, and purpose, amplified by the toxic reinforcement of social media, and we have the inevitable infrastructure of a dangerous cult-like subculture, made ever more threatening by the prevalence of a predominantly white constituency who have never known real injustice.

These are men and women born into one of the most fortunate circumstances available to humanity, and have still managed to convince themselves of their inescapable victimhood. They have identified tyranny within a society that is among the most free in history, and manifested injustice in the face of democratically enacted statutes.

They have exhausted the tolerance of a legal system which affords extraordinary protections upon even the most antagonistic of participants. But now our patience must be extended no further.

As with any ideology or religion, you are entitled to your delusions until they endanger the rest of us.

Designate them as terrorists. Take their guns away. Convict those who promote violence.

We are no longer amused.

We had a sov-cit who forbade us access during a bushfire. We pulled back and watched his place burn. Then believe it or not he wanted to sue for not protecting his “sovereign” property.

Woodie said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Carrick Ryan

When I look at Sovereign Citizens, I see a movement built upon manufactured grievance, tyranny, and expertise. This patently absurd belief system seduces them with these three tenets for many reasons, but primarily it’s because it absolves them of their own mediocrity.

“Grievance” assures them that the underwhelming achievements of their life are due to unjust persecution rather than their own incompetence or failures. Especially for demographics who have never experienced genuine oppression in their life, this fictional narrative affords them the status of victim, thus forgiving them of their observably unimpressive achievements.

“Tyranny” provides a sense of order to a chaotic world, and neatly personifies the mildest malignancies of life into a sinister conspiracy. It takes a degree of maturity to accept that the human experience is often unavoidably punctuated by meaningless and uncontrolled hardship, suffering, and tragedy. By attributing any execrated event to some malevolent force it offers a simpler dichotomy to the morality of life. Dedicating oneself to the resistance of this nebulous tyrannical system induces a positive sense of purpose to many who have spent their life without one.

“Expertise” is perhaps the most alluring of this movement’s offerings, as it secretes within the adherent a sense of intellectual superiority that is otherwise rejected by the institutions of modern life. Within the parameters of academia and professional life, these are almost always demonstrably unexceptional protagonists. But within their entirely fictional field of study, they are the intellectual masters of authority. They believe they are privy to a truth that the rest of us are too ill-informed, ignorant, or indoctrinated to see. They are, finally, smarter than everyone else.

Add to this the standard psychological attraction to fringe movements; a sense of belonging, community, and purpose, amplified by the toxic reinforcement of social media, and we have the inevitable infrastructure of a dangerous cult-like subculture, made ever more threatening by the prevalence of a predominantly white constituency who have never known real injustice.

These are men and women born into one of the most fortunate circumstances available to humanity, and have still managed to convince themselves of their inescapable victimhood. They have identified tyranny within a society that is among the most free in history, and manifested injustice in the face of democratically enacted statutes.

They have exhausted the tolerance of a legal system which affords extraordinary protections upon even the most antagonistic of participants. But now our patience must be extended no further.

As with any ideology or religion, you are entitled to your delusions until they endanger the rest of us.

Designate them as terrorists. Take their guns away. Convict those who promote violence.

We are no longer amused.

What ever happened to Prince Leonard of Hutt??

his son took over and it is just a tourist venue now I believe.

Woodie said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Carrick Ryan

When I look at Sovereign Citizens, I see a movement built upon manufactured grievance, tyranny, and expertise. This patently absurd belief system seduces them with these three tenets for many reasons, but primarily it’s because it absolves them of their own mediocrity.

“Grievance” assures them that the underwhelming achievements of their life are due to unjust persecution rather than their own incompetence or failures. Especially for demographics who have never experienced genuine oppression in their life, this fictional narrative affords them the status of victim, thus forgiving them of their observably unimpressive achievements.

“Tyranny” provides a sense of order to a chaotic world, and neatly personifies the mildest malignancies of life into a sinister conspiracy. It takes a degree of maturity to accept that the human experience is often unavoidably punctuated by meaningless and uncontrolled hardship, suffering, and tragedy. By attributing any execrated event to some malevolent force it offers a simpler dichotomy to the morality of life. Dedicating oneself to the resistance of this nebulous tyrannical system induces a positive sense of purpose to many who have spent their life without one.

“Expertise” is perhaps the most alluring of this movement’s offerings, as it secretes within the adherent a sense of intellectual superiority that is otherwise rejected by the institutions of modern life. Within the parameters of academia and professional life, these are almost always demonstrably unexceptional protagonists. But within their entirely fictional field of study, they are the intellectual masters of authority. They believe they are privy to a truth that the rest of us are too ill-informed, ignorant, or indoctrinated to see. They are, finally, smarter than everyone else.

Add to this the standard psychological attraction to fringe movements; a sense of belonging, community, and purpose, amplified by the toxic reinforcement of social media, and we have the inevitable infrastructure of a dangerous cult-like subculture, made ever more threatening by the prevalence of a predominantly white constituency who have never known real injustice.

These are men and women born into one of the most fortunate circumstances available to humanity, and have still managed to convince themselves of their inescapable victimhood. They have identified tyranny within a society that is among the most free in history, and manifested injustice in the face of democratically enacted statutes.

They have exhausted the tolerance of a legal system which affords extraordinary protections upon even the most antagonistic of participants. But now our patience must be extended no further.

As with any ideology or religion, you are entitled to your delusions until they endanger the rest of us.

Designate them as terrorists. Take their guns away. Convict those who promote violence.

We are no longer amused.

What ever happened to Prince Leonard of Hutt??

Leonard George Casley (28 August 1925 – 13 February 2019),

ChrispenEvan said:

Woodie said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Carrick Ryan

When I look at Sovereign Citizens, I see a movement built upon manufactured grievance, tyranny, and expertise. This patently absurd belief system seduces them with these three tenets for many reasons, but primarily it’s because it absolves them of their own mediocrity.

“Grievance” assures them that the underwhelming achievements of their life are due to unjust persecution rather than their own incompetence or failures. Especially for demographics who have never experienced genuine oppression in their life, this fictional narrative affords them the status of victim, thus forgiving them of their observably unimpressive achievements.

“Tyranny” provides a sense of order to a chaotic world, and neatly personifies the mildest malignancies of life into a sinister conspiracy. It takes a degree of maturity to accept that the human experience is often unavoidably punctuated by meaningless and uncontrolled hardship, suffering, and tragedy. By attributing any execrated event to some malevolent force it offers a simpler dichotomy to the morality of life. Dedicating oneself to the resistance of this nebulous tyrannical system induces a positive sense of purpose to many who have spent their life without one.

“Expertise” is perhaps the most alluring of this movement’s offerings, as it secretes within the adherent a sense of intellectual superiority that is otherwise rejected by the institutions of modern life. Within the parameters of academia and professional life, these are almost always demonstrably unexceptional protagonists. But within their entirely fictional field of study, they are the intellectual masters of authority. They believe they are privy to a truth that the rest of us are too ill-informed, ignorant, or indoctrinated to see. They are, finally, smarter than everyone else.

Add to this the standard psychological attraction to fringe movements; a sense of belonging, community, and purpose, amplified by the toxic reinforcement of social media, and we have the inevitable infrastructure of a dangerous cult-like subculture, made ever more threatening by the prevalence of a predominantly white constituency who have never known real injustice.

These are men and women born into one of the most fortunate circumstances available to humanity, and have still managed to convince themselves of their inescapable victimhood. They have identified tyranny within a society that is among the most free in history, and manifested injustice in the face of democratically enacted statutes.

They have exhausted the tolerance of a legal system which affords extraordinary protections upon even the most antagonistic of participants. But now our patience must be extended no further.

As with any ideology or religion, you are entitled to your delusions until they endanger the rest of us.

Designate them as terrorists. Take their guns away. Convict those who promote violence.

We are no longer amused.

What ever happened to Prince Leonard of Hutt??

his son took over and it is just a tourist venue now I believe.

closed to tourists as of 2020

kii said:

diddly-squat said:

Linda Reynolds has won the defamation case she brought against Brittnay Higgins

Reynolds is a psychopathic piece of shit.

Uh-oh.

You could be next.

Michael V said:

kii said:

diddly-squat said:

Linda Reynolds has won the defamation case she brought against Brittnay Higgins

Reynolds is a psychopathic piece of shit.

Uh-oh.

You could be next.

But, truth is a valid defence in a defamation case.

Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Carrick Ryan

When I look at Sovereign Citizens, I see a movement built upon manufactured grievance, tyranny, and expertise. This patently absurd belief system seduces them with these three tenets for many reasons, but primarily it’s because it absolves them of their own mediocrity.

“Grievance” assures them that the underwhelming achievements of their life are due to unjust persecution rather than their own incompetence or failures. Especially for demographics who have never experienced genuine oppression in their life, this fictional narrative affords them the status of victim, thus forgiving them of their observably unimpressive achievements.

“Tyranny” provides a sense of order to a chaotic world, and neatly personifies the mildest malignancies of life into a sinister conspiracy. It takes a degree of maturity to accept that the human experience is often unavoidably punctuated by meaningless and uncontrolled hardship, suffering, and tragedy. By attributing any execrated event to some malevolent force it offers a simpler dichotomy to the morality of life. Dedicating oneself to the resistance of this nebulous tyrannical system induces a positive sense of purpose to many who have spent their life without one.

“Expertise” is perhaps the most alluring of this movement’s offerings, as it secretes within the adherent a sense of intellectual superiority that is otherwise rejected by the institutions of modern life. Within the parameters of academia and professional life, these are almost always demonstrably unexceptional protagonists. But within their entirely fictional field of study, they are the intellectual masters of authority. They believe they are privy to a truth that the rest of us are too ill-informed, ignorant, or indoctrinated to see. They are, finally, smarter than everyone else.

Add to this the standard psychological attraction to fringe movements; a sense of belonging, community, and purpose, amplified by the toxic reinforcement of social media, and we have the inevitable infrastructure of a dangerous cult-like subculture, made ever more threatening by the prevalence of a predominantly white constituency who have never known real injustice.

These are men and women born into one of the most fortunate circumstances available to humanity, and have still managed to convince themselves of their inescapable victimhood. They have identified tyranny within a society that is among the most free in history, and manifested injustice in the face of democratically enacted statutes.

They have exhausted the tolerance of a legal system which affords extraordinary protections upon even the most antagonistic of participants. But now our patience must be extended no further.

As with any ideology or religion, you are entitled to your delusions until they endanger the rest of us.

Designate them as terrorists. Take their guns away. Convict those who promote violence.

We are no longer amused.

We had a sov-cit who forbade us access during a bushfire. We pulled back and watched his place burn. Then believe it or not he wanted to sue for not protecting his “sovereign” property.

Heck!

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

kii said:

Reynolds is a psychopathic piece of shit.

Uh-oh.

You could be next.

But, truth is a valid defence in a defamation case.

Fair point.

Michael V said:

We had a sov-cit who forbade us access during a bushfire. We pulled back and watched his place burn. Then believe it or not he wanted to sue for not protecting his “sovereign” property.

Heck!

Decades back, there was a bloke in western Sydney who ‘seceded’ from Australia, and who told the then Sydney Water Board that he would, in future, decline to pay their charges for water, sewerage and drainage.

The Board’s lawyers wrote back, thanking him for the notification, and assuring him that the Board’s work team would be around as soon as possible to disconnect all of those services from his propertry, as the relevant Act of NSW Parliament defining the Board’s role made no provision for it to deliver services to properties outside its defined area of operations, and a ‘territory’ which was not part of Australia was clearly beyond those boundaries.

The property owner then stated that he would graciously continue to honour bills sent by the Board.

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

We had a sov-cit who forbade us access during a bushfire. We pulled back and watched his place burn. Then believe it or not he wanted to sue for not protecting his “sovereign” property.

Heck!

It’s like i said the other day: ‘sov cits’ are the king/queens of ‘have your cake, and eat it, too’.

They’ll bluster all day about how they don’t recognise any of ‘your’ laws, how the courts have no legitimacy, and how none of the appointed officers of the State or Commonwealth actually have any authority.

But, when it’s to their advantage to call upon the laws and courts and officers, then it’s a different story, laws/courts/officers good, and they’ll use the very system they defy to try to punish others.

loving how all these cool cats have hundreds of thousands to shrug off
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-27/linda-reynolds-brittany-higgins-david-sharaz-defamation-trial/104830130

see told yous that lockdowns should be permanent

The demonstration was the largest protest ever held on the doorstep of parliament, and was attended by average citizens, anti-vaxxers, and activists protesting the COVID restrictions imposed by governments.

Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Uh-oh.

You could be next.

But, truth is a valid defence in a defamation case.

Fair point.

or an honestly held opinion or something whatever

diddly-squat said:

Linda Reynolds has won the defamation case she brought against Brittnay Higgins

Great

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/aug/27/simon-holmes-a-court-wins-charity-auction-to-put-climate-scientist-on-flight-with-sussan-ley

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/aug/27/simon-holmes-a-court-wins-charity-auction-to-put-climate-scientist-on-flight-with-sussan-ley

LOL. That climate scientist sure has their work cut out for them.

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/aug/27/simon-holmes-a-court-wins-charity-auction-to-put-climate-scientist-on-flight-with-sussan-ley

LOL. That climate scientist sure has their work cut out for them.

Talking to Susan Ley is not going to be an issue, it’s the rump of dinosaurs in the party room that are the problem.

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/aug/27/simon-holmes-a-court-wins-charity-auction-to-put-climate-scientist-on-flight-with-sussan-ley

LOL. That climate scientist sure has their work cut out for them.

Talking to Susan Ley is not going to be an issue, it’s the rump of dinosaurs in the party room that are the problem.

well the ice age fixed them last time too

Greens Join Coalition

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-28/pentagon-says-marles-hegseth-meeting-happenstance-encounter/105706694

thought it’d be something like this

I don't agree with attempts to politicise the government's IRGC listing. The fact is, the Coalition did not act on the IRGC when it was in government either. I was taken hostage by the IRGC and brought home, all under the Coalition. Not a single sanction has ever been applied over my wrongful arrest, nor that of at least 4 other Australians, nor one who tragically died in custody, by either party. Alongside Iranian-Australian community groups I have engaged extensively with all political parties over the IRGC and Iran's human rights record, particularly during the 2023 Senate Inquiry (which ultimately recommended proscribing the IRGC). I would say there was bipartisan support among parliamentarians for recognising that the IRGC is a terror org, and bipartisan commitment to listing them, from Labor, the Greens and the Coalition. The government came very close, however it was unelected government agencies which ultimately interfered in this and thwarted plans, which reportedly were quite advanced, to proscribe the IRGC. @AlboMP and @SenatorWong have acted decisively and for that they should be given credit. Yes, it could have come sooner. But at the end of the day, the threat was underestimated by both parties of government.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says Bob Katter needs to “have a look at himself” after he threatened a journalist at a press conference in Brisbane yesterday. At a press conference about migration to Australia, a Channel Nine journalist asked about Katter’s Lebanese ancestry. The Kennedy MP in response said: “I’ve punched blokes in the mouth for saying that. Don’t you say that!” Albanese says, while he likes Katter, the MP needs to recognise that’s not the behaviour expected of any Australian, including an elected representative. “Bob Katter needs to have a look at that footage, have a look at himself, frankly, and recognise that that’s just not what we expect of any Australian, let alone someone who’s in public office,” he says.

it’s unAustralian to have a look at oneself, anyone who looks at this Forum from the outside can see that, but we can’t

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/aug/28/golden-ticket-to-guns-police-want-australias-laws-tightened-to-stem-abuse-of-firearms-licences

Link

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/aug/28/golden-ticket-to-guns-police-want-australias-laws-tightened-to-stem-abuse-of-firearms-licences

Link

also

Police say they arrested, and later released, a 42-year-old woman and 15-year-old boy as part of their investigation into the Porepunkah shooting. The suspected gunman — 56-year-old Porepunkah man Dezi Freeman — remains on the run.

SCIENCE said:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says Bob Katter needs to “have a look at himself” after he threatened a journalist at a press conference in Brisbane yesterday. At a press conference about migration to Australia, a Channel Nine journalist asked about Katter’s Lebanese ancestry. The Kennedy MP in response said: “I’ve punched blokes in the mouth for saying that. Don’t you say that!” Albanese says, while he likes Katter, the MP needs to recognise that’s not the behaviour expected of any Australian, including an elected representative. “Bob Katter needs to have a look at that footage, have a look at himself, frankly, and recognise that that’s just not what we expect of any Australian, let alone someone who’s in public office,” he says.

it’s unAustralian to have a look at oneself, anyone who looks at this Forum from the outside can see that, but we can’t

Surely more unHuman than particularly unAustralian.

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/aug/28/golden-ticket-to-guns-police-want-australias-laws-tightened-to-stem-abuse-of-firearms-licences

Link

also

Police say they arrested, and later released, a 42-year-old woman and 15-year-old boy as part of their investigation into the Porepunkah shooting. The suspected gunman — 56-year-old Porepunkah man Dezi Freeman — remains on the run.

Was that the partner/ex-partner and the son of the sovcit? I heard they’d turned themselves in but don’t know the whole story.

SCIENCE said:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says Bob Katter needs to “have a look at himself” after he threatened a journalist at a press conference in Brisbane yesterday. At a press conference about migration to Australia, a Channel Nine journalist asked about Katter’s Lebanese ancestry. The Kennedy MP in response said: “I’ve punched blokes in the mouth for saying that. Don’t you say that!” Albanese says, while he likes Katter, the MP needs to recognise that’s not the behaviour expected of any Australian, including an elected representative. “Bob Katter needs to have a look at that footage, have a look at himself, frankly, and recognise that that’s just not what we expect of any Australian, let alone someone who’s in public office,” he says.

it’s unAustralian to have a look at oneself, anyone who looks at this Forum from the outside can see that, but we can’t

It’s a skill to look at oneself from a distance for the purpose of self improvement.

For Bob Katter there are a number of things to consider:

Well there’s more but here are the main ones from that flare up.

1 being emotional intelligent
2 having emotional control
3 he was expressing emotional violence
4 he was threatening physical violence
5 he was boasting about being violent
6 Allowing one question to distrupt his campaign. Instead of focusing on his party, he wasted the opportunity. None of these things show good leadership.
7 Bob made it personal, letting other people manipulate him, instead of being in control of himself.
8 this was in a public space and was recorded for all to replay.

Bob needs to see a counsellor to get some guidance on his temper.

Self improvement is not difficult but for Bob I think it will be difficult because I think he has a closed mind on things. It’s different when you have an open mind, but for Bob to have an open mind he will have to be honest with himself.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says Bob Katter needs to “have a look at himself” after he threatened a journalist at a press conference in Brisbane yesterday. At a press conference about migration to Australia, a Channel Nine journalist asked about Katter’s Lebanese ancestry. The Kennedy MP in response said: “I’ve punched blokes in the mouth for saying that. Don’t you say that!” Albanese says, while he likes Katter, the MP needs to recognise that’s not the behaviour expected of any Australian, including an elected representative. “Bob Katter needs to have a look at that footage, have a look at himself, frankly, and recognise that that’s just not what we expect of any Australian, let alone someone who’s in public office,” he says.

it’s unAustralian to have a look at oneself, anyone who looks at this Forum from the outside can see that, but we can’t

Surely more unHuman than particularly unAustralian.

good point we take it all back obviously narcissists look at themselves all the time and yet one must wonder, can they see themselves

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says Bob Katter needs to “have a look at himself” after he threatened a journalist at a press conference in Brisbane yesterday. At a press conference about migration to Australia, a Channel Nine journalist asked about Katter’s Lebanese ancestry. The Kennedy MP in response said: “I’ve punched blokes in the mouth for saying that. Don’t you say that!” Albanese says, while he likes Katter, the MP needs to recognise that’s not the behaviour expected of any Australian, including an elected representative. “Bob Katter needs to have a look at that footage, have a look at himself, frankly, and recognise that that’s just not what we expect of any Australian, let alone someone who’s in public office,” he says.

it’s unAustralian to have a look at oneself, anyone who looks at this Forum from the outside can see that, but we can’t

It’s a skill to look at oneself from a distance for the purpose of self improvement.

For Bob Katter there are a number of things to consider:

Well there’s more but here are the main ones from that flare up.

1 being emotional intelligent
2 having emotional control
3 he was expressing emotional violence
4 he was threatening physical violence
5 he was boasting about being violent
6 Allowing one question to distrupt his campaign. Instead of focusing on his party, he wasted the opportunity. None of these things show good leadership.
7 Bob made it personal, letting other people manipulate him, instead of being in control of himself.
8 this was in a public space and was recorded for all to replay.

Bob needs to see a counsellor to get some guidance on his temper.

Self improvement is not difficult but for Bob I think it will be difficult because I think he has a closed mind on things. It’s different when you have an open mind, but for Bob to have an open mind he will have to be honest with himself.

wait so young women of colour must be censured for calling out genocide slash calling for recognition of oppressed states but all that angry old white males who threaten to punch people in the face should do is look at themselves got it

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says Bob Katter needs to “have a look at himself” after he threatened a journalist at a press conference in Brisbane yesterday. At a press conference about migration to Australia, a Channel Nine journalist asked about Katter’s Lebanese ancestry. The Kennedy MP in response said: “I’ve punched blokes in the mouth for saying that. Don’t you say that!” Albanese says, while he likes Katter, the MP needs to recognise that’s not the behaviour expected of any Australian, including an elected representative. “Bob Katter needs to have a look at that footage, have a look at himself, frankly, and recognise that that’s just not what we expect of any Australian, let alone someone who’s in public office,” he says.

it’s unAustralian to have a look at oneself, anyone who looks at this Forum from the outside can see that, but we can’t

It’s a skill to look at oneself from a distance for the purpose of self improvement.

For Bob Katter there are a number of things to consider:

Well there’s more but here are the main ones from that flare up.

1 being emotional intelligent
2 having emotional control
3 he was expressing emotional violence
4 he was threatening physical violence
5 he was boasting about being violent
6 Allowing one question to distrupt his campaign. Instead of focusing on his party, he wasted the opportunity. None of these things show good leadership.
7 Bob made it personal, letting other people manipulate him, instead of being in control of himself.
8 this was in a public space and was recorded for all to replay.

Bob needs to see a counsellor to get some guidance on his temper.

Self improvement is not difficult but for Bob I think it will be difficult because I think he has a closed mind on things. It’s different when you have an open mind, but for Bob to have an open mind he will have to be honest with himself.

wait so young women of colour must be censured for calling out genocide slash calling for recognition of oppressed states but all that angry old white males who threaten to punch people in the face should do is look at themselves got it

Yes I’ve got it, but that’s another story.

9 Bob was not being fair to his party members.

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

It’s a skill to look at oneself from a distance for the purpose of self improvement.

For Bob Katter there are a number of things to consider:

Well there’s more but here are the main ones from that flare up.

1 being emotional intelligent
2 having emotional control
3 he was expressing emotional violence
4 he was threatening physical violence
5 he was boasting about being violent
6 Allowing one question to distrupt his campaign. Instead of focusing on his party, he wasted the opportunity. None of these things show good leadership.
7 Bob made it personal, letting other people manipulate him, instead of being in control of himself.
8 this was in a public space and was recorded for all to replay.

Bob needs to see a counsellor to get some guidance on his temper.

Self improvement is not difficult but for Bob I think it will be difficult because I think he has a closed mind on things. It’s different when you have an open mind, but for Bob to have an open mind he will have to be honest with himself.

wait so young women of colour must be censured for calling out genocide slash calling for recognition of oppressed states but all that angry old white males who threaten to punch people in the face should do is look at themselves got it

Yes I’ve got it, but that’s another story.

9 Bob was not being fair to his party members.

10 having a closed mind isn’t a good leadership quality.

So he will probably stay the same.

The Prime Minister is right.

Bob should have a good look at himself .

Which is a skill, a good skill to have.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

wait so young women of colour must be censured for calling out genocide slash calling for recognition of oppressed states but all that angry old white males who threaten to punch people in the face should do is look at themselves got it

Yes I’ve got it, but that’s another story.

9 Bob was not being fair to his party members.

10 having a closed mind isn’t a good leadership quality.

So he will probably stay the same.

The Prime Minister is right.

Bob should have a good look at himself .

Which is a skill, a good skill to have.

I’d take his guns from him, too unstable.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes I’ve got it, but that’s another story.

9 Bob was not being fair to his party members.

10 having a closed mind isn’t a good leadership quality.

So he will probably stay the same.

The Prime Minister is right.

Bob should have a good look at himself .

Which is a skill, a good skill to have.

I’d take his guns from him, too unstable.

And his gun licence.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

10 having a closed mind isn’t a good leadership quality.

So he will probably stay the same.

The Prime Minister is right.

Bob should have a good look at himself .

Which is a skill, a good skill to have.

I’d take his guns from him, too unstable.

And his gun licence.

His Christian values are looking a bit tatty.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes I’ve got it, but that’s another story.

9 Bob was not being fair to his party members.

10 having a closed mind isn’t a good leadership quality.

So he will probably stay the same.

The Prime Minister is right.

Bob should have a good look at himself .

Which is a skill, a good skill to have.

I’d take his guns from him, too unstable.

Is he just a stupid old c ? who seems to forget that society and culture change and certain values from the past are actually based on racist/sexist ideals
Notice men that age are broadcasting from the 1950’s

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I’d take his guns from him, too unstable.

And his gun licence.

His Christian values are looking a bit tatty.

His Bible must have been missing Matthew ch 5.

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

And his gun licence.

His Christian values are looking a bit tatty.

His Bible must have been missing Matthew ch 5.

Many Christians only pay lip service or when they get rewarded by praise for being so righteous.
They sell out easily enough

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

His Christian values are looking a bit tatty.

His Bible must have been missing Matthew ch 5.

Many Christians only pay lip service or when they get rewarded by praise for being so righteous.
They sell out easily enough

Can’t say that i go along with everything in that chapter. Matt 5:32 says ‘…whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery’, and i very nearly did just that a long time ago.

That view of divorce and re-marriage does sound rather Katterish, though.

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

His Bible must have been missing Matthew ch 5.

Many Christians only pay lip service or when they get rewarded by praise for being so righteous.
They sell out easily enough

Can’t say that i go along with everything in that chapter. Matt 5:32 says ‘…whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery’, and i very nearly did just that a long time ago.

That view of divorce and re-marriage does sound rather Katterish, though.

I’ve been committing adultery every day of my life since age 28 then.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I’d take his guns from him, too unstable.

And his gun licence.

His Christian values are looking a bit tatty.

Can you see the connection between emotional control and stupidity?

When there is only a hairline between choosing to stay in control or choosing violence, that moment of madness is a form of stupidity.

The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

Many Christians only pay lip service or when they get rewarded by praise for being so righteous.
They sell out easily enough

Can’t say that i go along with everything in that chapter. Matt 5:32 says ‘…whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery’, and i very nearly did just that a long time ago.

That view of divorce and re-marriage does sound rather Katterish, though.

I’ve been committing adultery every day of my life since age 28 then.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

And his gun licence.

His Christian values are looking a bit tatty.

Can you see the connection between emotional control and stupidity?

When there is only a hairline between choosing to stay in control or choosing violence, that moment of madness is a form of stupidity.

To be able to look at oneself, you need observation skills, you need to be aware of yourself to be able to see yourself from a distance.

So you need self awareness but take it to the next level.

Sometimes this can become a problem becoming self conscious if you over do it then trim back a bit.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

His Christian values are looking a bit tatty.

Can you see the connection between emotional control and stupidity?

When there is only a hairline between choosing to stay in control or choosing violence, that moment of madness is a form of stupidity.

To be able to look at oneself, you need observation skills, you need to be aware of yourself to be able to see yourself from a distance.

So you need self awareness but take it to the next level.

Sometimes this can become a problem becoming self conscious if you over do it then trim back a bit.

I think one needs a clear and open mind for politics, which Bob Katter does not have.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Can you see the connection between emotional control and stupidity?

When there is only a hairline between choosing to stay in control or choosing violence, that moment of madness is a form of stupidity.

To be able to look at oneself, you need observation skills, you need to be aware of yourself to be able to see yourself from a distance.

So you need self awareness but take it to the next level.

Sometimes this can become a problem becoming self conscious if you over do it then trim back a bit.

I think one needs a clear and open mind for politics, which Bob Katter does not have.

He was better teaching down and out kids in Brooklyn, he was welcomed there

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

To be able to look at oneself, you need observation skills, you need to be aware of yourself to be able to see yourself from a distance.

So you need self awareness but take it to the next level.

Sometimes this can become a problem becoming self conscious if you over do it then trim back a bit.

I think one needs a clear and open mind for politics, which Bob Katter does not have.

He was better teaching down and out kids in Brooklyn, he was welcomed there

So is he upset some reporter said he was failed clone of Phil Donahue or escaped from an enclave of taxi drivers stuck in the 1950’s

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

10 having a closed mind isn’t a good leadership quality.

So he will probably stay the same.

The Prime Minister is right.

Bob should have a good look at himself .

Which is a skill, a good skill to have.

I’d take his guns from him, too unstable.

Is he just a stupid old c ? who seems to forget that society and culture change and certain values from the past are actually based on racist/sexist ideals
Notice men that age are broadcasting from the 1950’s

“Stupid old c” enough to get 65% of the vote after preferences at the last election.

I do think this was something of an over-reaction to a reasonable line of enquiry and his sensitivity to the topic makes him look like a dill.

One thing that we discussed her some years back is that it appears his grandfather’s naturalisation was based on fraudulent information. He originally applied in 1905 giving his real birthplace (Bsharri, in what is now Lebanon) and was knocked back as this is in Asia. He reapplied in 1907 giving his birthplace as Adrianople (Edirne) which is across the Bosporus in Europe, and this application was successful.
It’s not a big deal but it might explain why he is touchy and does not want to get into it.
Or possibly wanting to avoid any Section 44 nonsense since Lebanese people inherit their citizenship.

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/the-crimson-thread-of-kinship-runs-through-us-all-bob-katter-and/10214292

dv said:

I do think this was something of an over-reaction to a reasonable line of enquiry and his sensitivity to the topic makes him look like a dill.

One thing that we discussed her some years back is that it appears his grandfather’s naturalisation was based on fraudulent information. He originally applied in 1905 giving his real birthplace (Bsharri, in what is now Lebanon) and was knocked back as this is in Asia. He reapplied in 1907 giving his birthplace as Adrianople (Edirne) which is across the Bosporus in Europe, and this application was successful.
It’s not a big deal but it might explain why he is touchy and does not want to get into it.
Or possibly wanting to avoid any Section 44 nonsense since Lebanese people inherit their citizenship.

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/the-crimson-thread-of-kinship-runs-through-us-all-bob-katter-and/10214292

ah well could be worse overreactions they’ve had those in that region

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

I do think this was something of an over-reaction to a reasonable line of enquiry and his sensitivity to the topic makes him look like a dill.

One thing that we discussed her some years back is that it appears his grandfather’s naturalisation was based on fraudulent information. He originally applied in 1905 giving his real birthplace (Bsharri, in what is now Lebanon) and was knocked back as this is in Asia. He reapplied in 1907 giving his birthplace as Adrianople (Edirne) which is across the Bosporus in Europe, and this application was successful.
It’s not a big deal but it might explain why he is touchy and does not want to get into it.
Or possibly wanting to avoid any Section 44 nonsense since Lebanese people inherit their citizenship.

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/the-crimson-thread-of-kinship-runs-through-us-all-bob-katter-and/10214292

ah well could be worse overreactions they’ve had those in that region

but anyway more importantly for the local theatre, was it fraudulent or not, and is he inherited into citizenship or not, we mean simply distracting attention from it by assaulting someone doesn’t seem like it should change the truth of whether he’s actually eligible to serve

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

I do think this was something of an over-reaction to a reasonable line of enquiry and his sensitivity to the topic makes him look like a dill.

One thing that we discussed her some years back is that it appears his grandfather’s naturalisation was based on fraudulent information. He originally applied in 1905 giving his real birthplace (Bsharri, in what is now Lebanon) and was knocked back as this is in Asia. He reapplied in 1907 giving his birthplace as Adrianople (Edirne) which is across the Bosporus in Europe, and this application was successful.
It’s not a big deal but it might explain why he is touchy and does not want to get into it.
Or possibly wanting to avoid any Section 44 nonsense since Lebanese people inherit their citizenship.

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/the-crimson-thread-of-kinship-runs-through-us-all-bob-katter-and/10214292

ah well could be worse overreactions they’ve had those in that region

but anyway more importantly for the local theatre, was it fraudulent or not, and is he inherited into citizenship or not, we mean simply distracting attention from it by assaulting someone doesn’t seem like it should change the truth of whether he’s actually eligible to serve

Speaking of the local theatre, Bob Katter Sr…
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dv said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

ah well could be worse overreactions they’ve had those in that region

but anyway more importantly for the local theatre, was it fraudulent or not, and is he inherited into citizenship or not, we mean simply distracting attention from it by assaulting someone doesn’t seem like it should change the truth of whether he’s actually eligible to serve

Speaking of the local theatre, Bob Katter Sr…
<<<With the outbreak of World War II, he served in the Australian Army as a lieutenant from 1940 and was promoted to captain in 1942. In July 1942, his service was terminated on grounds of ill health. Later he was proprietor of the local drapery business, menswear store and picture theatre in Cloncurry, Queensland. One of his first actions in taking over the cinema was to remove the steel railings which separated the Aboriginal patrons from other cinema-goers, and to remove the hard chairs, so that everyone was forced to share the canvas seats normally reserved for European Australians.>>>

so there’s a strong family history of ensuring that the earlier existing residents don’t get taken advantage of by the new visitors who look different

dv said:

He sure is a mad hater. Texas hat, cowboy stupidity.

And he knows how to run a successful campaign.

dv said:

He deserves a holiday after that ugly scene.

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

He deserves a holiday after that ugly scene.

That gesture
Is it an invisible bird in the hand is worth two not birds in the bush

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

He deserves a holiday after that ugly scene.

That gesture
Is it an invisible bird in the hand is worth two not birds in the bush

Yes, that gesture, would have to be described as the gesture of stupidity, a lot of people are saying violence is stupid.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

He deserves a holiday after that ugly scene.

That gesture
Is it an invisible bird in the hand is worth two not birds in the bush

Yes, that gesture, would have to be described as the gesture of stupidity, a lot of people are saying violence is stupid.

Almost this close >< to having a psychotic break.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-29/nsw-fractured-rock-water-resource-plan-traditional-owners-court/105711536

The Federal Court has handed down its decision after a confederation of 20 First Nations groups legally challenged the federal government.

Murray Lower Darling Rivers Indigenous Nations (MLDRIN) alleged the federal government failed to meet its legal requirements to engage and consult with Indigenous groups before approving a water resource plan.

ormer federal environment and water minister Tanya Plibersek did not read a major water resource plan before she approved it in November 2022, the Federal Court has determined.

After years of court proceedings, the Federal Court has handed down a decision stating the federal government failed to meet its legal requirements to engage and consult with Indigenous groups before approving the New South Wales Fractured Rock Water Resource Plan (FRWRP).

The resource plan refers to the management of water found in fractures, joints, bedding planes, faults and cavities within rock masses across the Murray-Darling, which is not captured elsewhere in the basin.

The court heard the then-environment minister did not have a copy of the FRWRP before her when she approved it in 2022.

Ms Plibersek’s failure to comply with section 63(a) of the Water Act constituted a breach of her governmental responsibility, the court heard.

The Federal Court has ordered the decision to accredit the FRWRP be quashed and the resource plan be reconsidered by current Environment and Water Minister Murray Watt.

“Habibi” is an Arabic term of endearment meaning “my love,” “my dear,” or “my darling,” but its usage is broad and can also mean “my friend,” “buddy,” or “dude” depending on the context and tone of voice.

ABC News:

They could have just quietly turned those 350 people loose, with them agreeing to keep quiet about the deal, and paid every one of them (regardless of age) $200,000 a year, and it wouldn’t have cost the government a penny more than it will to keep them on Nauru.

And, the $70 million would have stayed in Australia, instead of getting rorted in Nauru.

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

They could have just quietly turned those 350 people loose, with them agreeing to keep quiet about the deal, and paid every one of them (regardless of age) $200,000 a year, and it wouldn’t have cost the government a penny more than it will to keep them on Nauru.

And, the $70 million would have stayed in Australia, instead of getting rorted in Nauru.

Now why didn’t they think of that?

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

They could have just quietly turned those 350 people loose, with them agreeing to keep quiet about the deal, and paid every one of them (regardless of age) $200,000 a year, and it wouldn’t have cost the government a penny more than it will to keep them on Nauru.

And, the $70 million would have stayed in Australia, instead of getting rorted in Nauru.

Now why didn’t they think of that?

well yeah that if they were … criminals what then

State government won’t allow planned drug checking facility reopening, acting premier says.
The Queensland government will “do whatever is necessary” to stop a Brisbane-based drug checking facility from operating.

It comes a day after the service announced it would re-open next week with private funding, after the state government axed its own earlier this year.

Acting premier Jarrod Bleijie said a strong approach against drugs was needed.

“Pills kill Queenslanders, the government has a zero tolerance approach on illicit drugs,” he said.

“The government’s election commitment was not to support publicly or privately funded pill testing. will do whatever is necessary to enforce our position.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-30/qld-drug-checking-facility-reopening-government-plan-shut-down/105716062

What an utter f’wit.

Spiny Norman said:

State government won’t allow planned drug checking facility reopening, acting premier says.
The Queensland government will “do whatever is necessary” to stop a Brisbane-based drug checking facility from operating.

It comes a day after the service announced it would re-open next week with private funding, after the state government axed its own earlier this year.

Acting premier Jarrod Bleijie said a strong approach against drugs was needed.

“Pills kill Queenslanders, the government has a zero tolerance approach on illicit drugs,” he said.

“The government’s election commitment was not to support publicly or privately funded pill testing. will do whatever is necessary to enforce our position.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-30/qld-drug-checking-facility-reopening-government-plan-shut-down/105716062

What an utter f’wit.

FMD!

‘ken eedjot!

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

State government won’t allow planned drug checking facility reopening, acting premier says.
The Queensland government will “do whatever is necessary” to stop a Brisbane-based drug checking facility from operating.

It comes a day after the service announced it would re-open next week with private funding, after the state government axed its own earlier this year.

Acting premier Jarrod Bleijie said a strong approach against drugs was needed.

“Pills kill Queenslanders, the government has a zero tolerance approach on illicit drugs,” he said.

“The government’s election commitment was not to support publicly or privately funded pill testing. will do whatever is necessary to enforce our position.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-30/qld-drug-checking-facility-reopening-government-plan-shut-down/105716062

What an utter f’wit.

FMD!

‘ken eedjot!

pills don’t kill people, people kill people

wait

Capital cities across Australia are set to see anti-immigration marches and counter protests on Sunday afternoon.

Organisers of the march are calling for an “end to mass migration”, claiming immigration policies have eroded Australia’s unity.

“Our streets have seen growing displays of anti-Australian hatred, foreign conflicts, and disintegrating trust, while mass migration has torn at the bonds that held our communities together,” a website for the rallies states.

Fliers created by organisers have called for protesters to “take our country back” and “defend our culture”.

The Albanese government has been critical of the planned protests, saying Australia’s multiculturalism was a key part of our national identity.

Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke said the March For Australia was un-Australian.

“There is no place in our country for people who seek to divide and undermine our social cohesion,” he said.

Some politicians, including Queensland MP Bob Katter and Senator Pauline Hanson, have backed the march.

~~~
Emphasis mine. Katter and Hanson et al can eat a bag of dicks, preferably big black ones.

Divine Angel said:

Capital cities across Australia are set to see anti-immigration marches and counter protests on Sunday afternoon.

Organisers of the march are calling for an “end to mass migration”, claiming immigration policies have eroded Australia’s unity.

“Our streets have seen growing displays of anti-Australian hatred, foreign conflicts, and disintegrating trust, while mass migration has torn at the bonds that held our communities together,” a website for the rallies states.

Fliers created by organisers have called for protesters to “take our country back” and “defend our culture”.

The Albanese government has been critical of the planned protests, saying Australia’s multiculturalism was a key part of our national identity.

Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke said the March For Australia was un-Australian.

“There is no place in our country for people who seek to divide and undermine our social cohesion,” he said.

Some politicians, including Queensland MP Bob Katter and Senator Pauline Hanson, have backed the march.

~~~
Emphasis mine. Katter and Hanson et al can eat a bag of dicks, preferably big black ones.

Besides, they are all immigrants anyway.

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Capital cities across Australia are set to see anti-immigration marches and counter protests on Sunday afternoon.

Organisers of the march are calling for an “end to mass migration”, claiming immigration policies have eroded Australia’s unity.

“Our streets have seen growing displays of anti-Australian hatred, foreign conflicts, and disintegrating trust, while mass migration has torn at the bonds that held our communities together,” a website for the rallies states.

Fliers created by organisers have called for protesters to “take our country back” and “defend our culture”.

The Albanese government has been critical of the planned protests, saying Australia’s multiculturalism was a key part of our national identity.

Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke said the March For Australia was un-Australian.

“There is no place in our country for people who seek to divide and undermine our social cohesion,” he said.

Some politicians, including Queensland MP Bob Katter and Senator Pauline Hanson, have backed the march.

~~~
Emphasis mine. Katter and Hanson et al can eat a bag of dicks, preferably big black ones.

Besides, they are all immigrants anyway.

Careful, they’ll punch you in the face for saying that.

Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Capital cities across Australia are set to see anti-immigration marches and counter protests on Sunday afternoon.

Organisers of the march are calling for an “end to mass migration”, claiming immigration policies have eroded Australia’s unity.

“Our streets have seen growing displays of anti-Australian hatred, foreign conflicts, and disintegrating trust, while mass migration has torn at the bonds that held our communities together,” a website for the rallies states.

Fliers created by organisers have called for protesters to “take our country back” and “defend our culture”.

The Albanese government has been critical of the planned protests, saying Australia’s multiculturalism was a key part of our national identity.

Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke said the March For Australia was un-Australian.

“There is no place in our country for people who seek to divide and undermine our social cohesion,” he said.

Some politicians, including Queensland MP Bob Katter and Senator Pauline Hanson, have backed the march.

~~~
Emphasis mine. Katter and Hanson et al can eat a bag of dicks, preferably big black ones.

Besides, they are all immigrants anyway.

Careful, they’ll punch you in the face for saying that.

well yes we still don’t understand: being invaders from overseas themselves, how do racist pricks actually justify their xenophobia because we really don’t see how their claims stand up to the slightest scrutiny

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Besides, they are all immigrants anyway.

Careful, they’ll punch you in the face for saying that.

well yes we still don’t understand: being invaders from overseas themselves, how do racist pricks actually justify their xenophobia because we really don’t see how their claims stand up to the slightest scrutiny

White immigrants are cool.

Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Capital cities across Australia are set to see anti-immigration marches and counter protests on Sunday afternoon.

Organisers of the march are calling for an “end to mass migration”, claiming immigration policies have eroded Australia’s unity.

“Our streets have seen growing displays of anti-Australian hatred, foreign conflicts, and disintegrating trust, while mass migration has torn at the bonds that held our communities together,” a website for the rallies states.

Fliers created by organisers have called for protesters to “take our country back” and “defend our culture”.

The Albanese government has been critical of the planned protests, saying Australia’s multiculturalism was a key part of our national identity.

Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke said the March For Australia was un-Australian.

“There is no place in our country for people who seek to divide and undermine our social cohesion,” he said.

Some politicians, including Queensland MP Bob Katter and Senator Pauline Hanson, have backed the march.

~~~
Emphasis mine. Katter and Hanson et al can eat a bag of dicks, preferably big black ones.

Besides, they are all immigrants anyway.

Careful, they’ll punch you in the face for saying that.

LOL he’d have to have long arms.

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

Careful, they’ll punch you in the face for saying that.

well yes we still don’t understand: being invaders from overseas themselves, how do racist pricks actually justify their xenophobia because we really don’t see how their claims stand up to the slightest scrutiny

White immigrants are cool.

So it is bck to the WAP?

Linda Reynolds is demanding an apology from the PM.
Can this narcissistic bitch just fuck off and die?

Such a punchable face.

Link

To think, If only she had done that herself from the beginning, she wouldn’t need to be saying this now: “Surely, prime minister, the decent thing is to say sorry and to end it.”

kii said:

Linda Reynolds is demanding an apology from the PM.
Can this narcissistic bitch just fuck off and die?

Such a punchable face.

Link

can’t she just call a BobKat Lebanese and go from there

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Capital cities across Australia are set to see anti-immigration marches and counter protests on Sunday afternoon.

Organisers of the march are calling for an “end to mass migration”, claiming immigration policies have eroded Australia’s unity.

“Our streets have seen growing displays of anti-Australian hatred, foreign conflicts, and disintegrating trust, while mass migration has torn at the bonds that held our communities together,” a website for the rallies states.

Fliers created by organisers have called for protesters to “take our country back” and “defend our culture”.

The Albanese government has been critical of the planned protests, saying Australia’s multiculturalism was a key part of our national identity.

Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke said the March For Australia was un-Australian.

“There is no place in our country for people who seek to divide and undermine our social cohesion,” he said.

Some politicians, including Queensland MP Bob Katter and Senator Pauline Hanson, have backed the march.

~~~
Emphasis mine. Katter and Hanson et al can eat a bag of dicks, preferably big black ones.

Besides, they are all immigrants anyway.

Also known as Settler Australian.

roughbarked said:

To think, If only she had done that herself from the beginning, she wouldn’t need to be saying this now: “Surely, prime minister, the decent thing is to say sorry and to end it.”

so it’s the same bare faced hypocrisy as the racists with their invaders not welcome line

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Capital cities across Australia are set to see anti-immigration marches and counter protests on Sunday afternoon.

Organisers of the march are calling for an “end to mass migration”, claiming immigration policies have eroded Australia’s unity.

“Our streets have seen growing displays of anti-Australian hatred, foreign conflicts, and disintegrating trust, while mass migration has torn at the bonds that held our communities together,” a website for the rallies states.

Fliers created by organisers have called for protesters to “take our country back” and “defend our culture”.

The Albanese government has been critical of the planned protests, saying Australia’s multiculturalism was a key part of our national identity.

Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke said the March For Australia was un-Australian.

“There is no place in our country for people who seek to divide and undermine our social cohesion,” he said.

Some politicians, including Queensland MP Bob Katter and Senator Pauline Hanson, have backed the march.

~~~
Emphasis mine. Katter and Hanson et al can eat a bag of dicks, preferably big black ones.

Besides, they are all immigrants anyway.

Also known as Settler Australian.

so they have a right to defend themselves by genociding the locals

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Besides, they are all immigrants anyway.

Also known as Settler Australian.

so they have a right to defend themselves by genociding the locals

It’s a term used in the Aboriginal community for the European immigrants.

buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

Also known as Settler Australian.

so they have a right to defend themselves by genociding the locals

It’s a term used in the Aboriginal community for the European immigrants.

yes it may be we’r‘n’t disputing that, just observing the similarities between settlers in various parts of the world

Full list: Every LNP-linked person appointed to state government boards, executive roles.

https://www.reddit.com/r/friendlyjordies/comments/1n4i8lg/full_list_every_lnplinked_person_appointed_to

The usual rampant & blatant LNP nepotism. No effort at all to hide it any more.

Spiny Norman said:

Full list: Every LNP-linked person appointed to state government boards, executive roles.

https://www.reddit.com/r/friendlyjordies/comments/1n4i8lg/full_list_every_lnplinked_person_appointed_to

The usual rampant & blatant LNP nepotism. No effort at all to hide it any more.

Oh that reminds me. Saw a billboard ad for a local Women’s Wellness Workshop hosted by state member, LNP’s Kerri-Anne Dooley. I think I’ll pass.

- BEST COUNTER PROTEST AWARD (COLLECTIVE) goes to Hobart, where counter-protestors matched rally attendees one-for-one and somewhat destroyed opposition morale by SINGING THE NEIGHBOURS THEME SONG AT THEM to drown out the hate. Perfect, 10/10, no notes.

van badham

ChrispenEvan said:

- BEST COUNTER PROTEST AWARD (COLLECTIVE) goes to Hobart, where counter-protestors matched rally attendees one-for-one and somewhat destroyed opposition morale by SINGING THE NEIGHBOURS THEME SONG AT THEM to drown out the hate. Perfect, 10/10, no notes.

van badham

Well played. We have one city of which we can be proud.

Bastard Australian Farmers Want To Cause More Domestic Inflation

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2025-09-01/avocado-industry-pushes-to-enter-chinese-market/105711378

wait

“We are going to do this properly,” Zempilas said.
“It’s no secret that our opponents use extensive professional research to ensure that they effectively communicate their policies, their propositions, and the Labour Party brand.
“We have to match them at that level. It’s not good enough anymore to try our best.

what the fuck were all those cambridge analytica and other surveillance capitalist and foreign interference operations supporting far right extremists then

At 8am on Monday, NSW Police responded to reports of a suspicious vehicle, a white SUV, parked in the building’s driveway in Fullerton Street, Woollahra. On arrival, officers attached to Eastern Suburbs Police Area Command attempted to speak to the driver, a 39-year-old man, however he allegedly drove his vehicle through the gates of the property and into the grounds.

The vandals doing what they always do.

Queensland government dumps Forest Wind project.

A 1,200 megawatt wind farm that was proposed to deliver enough energy to power nearly 500,000 homes will be dumped by the Queensland government because of community concerns.

The Forest Wind project was slated to build up to 226 wind turbines, as tall as 160 metres, across Queensland state forests in Gympie, Maryborough and the Fraser Coast.

The former Labor government passed the Forest Wind Farm Development legislation that allowed the turbines to be built in a state forest.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-01/queensland-government-dumps-wind-farm-project-forest-wind/105720254

Spiny Norman said:

The vandals doing what they always do.

Queensland government dumps Forest Wind project.

A 1,200 megawatt wind farm that was proposed to deliver enough energy to power nearly 500,000 homes will be dumped by the Queensland government because of community concerns.

The Forest Wind project was slated to build up to 226 wind turbines, as tall as 160 metres, across Queensland state forests in Gympie, Maryborough and the Fraser Coast.

The former Labor government passed the Forest Wind Farm Development legislation that allowed the turbines to be built in a state forest.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-01/queensland-government-dumps-wind-farm-project-forest-wind/105720254

:Paper bags of $50 and $100 notes, with a sprinkling of coal dust…

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

The vandals doing what they always do.

Queensland government dumps Forest Wind project.

A 1,200 megawatt wind farm that was proposed to deliver enough energy to power nearly 500,000 homes will be dumped by the Queensland government because of community concerns.

The Forest Wind project was slated to build up to 226 wind turbines, as tall as 160 metres, across Queensland state forests in Gympie, Maryborough and the Fraser Coast.

The former Labor government passed the Forest Wind Farm Development legislation that allowed the turbines to be built in a state forest.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-01/queensland-government-dumps-wind-farm-project-forest-wind/105720254

:Paper bags of $50 and $100 notes, with a sprinkling of coal dust…

Enough to power a DeLorean back/forward in time, need a long extension cord.

A sign at the nazi rally yesterday.

Love it!

Spiny Norman said:

A sign at the nazi rally yesterday.

Love it!

People don’t seem to see that link between blaming the old immigrant and the start of turning into a fascist.
Are we to blame when we immigrate and take jobs and housing elsewhere (assuming that part is based on reality)
Does it still count if said immigrants work their arses off for years to get ahead and contribute to our society.
The dumb jobless bogan is still more Aussie though, man what a load of crap.

Spiny Norman said:

The vandals doing what they always do.

Queensland government dumps Forest Wind project.

A 1,200 megawatt wind farm that was proposed to deliver enough energy to power nearly 500,000 homes will be dumped by the Queensland government because of community concerns.

The Forest Wind project was slated to build up to 226 wind turbines, as tall as 160 metres, across Queensland state forests in Gympie, Maryborough and the Fraser Coast.

The former Labor government passed the Forest Wind Farm Development legislation that allowed the turbines to be built in a state forest.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-01/queensland-government-dumps-wind-farm-project-forest-wind/105720254

FMD

Cymek said:

Spiny Norman said:

A sign at the nazi rally yesterday.

Love it!

People don’t seem to see that link between blaming the old immigrant and the start of turning into a fascist.
Are we to blame when we immigrate and take jobs and housing elsewhere (assuming that part is based on reality)
Does it still count if said immigrants work their arses off for years to get ahead and contribute to our society.
The dumb jobless bogan is still more Aussie though, man what a load of crap.

“start”

what, no guts to say there were very fine people on both sides ¿ c’m‘on

Albanese says there are always good people who turn up to share their views about issues, but says the protests gave neo-Nazis a platform. “The tone of course of much of the rallies was unfortunate, the best way you can put it, but hateful in some of the extreme examples. And the idea that an open neo-Nazi was able to give a speech from the steps of the Victorian Parliament is something that isn’t the Australian way,” Albanese says. Asked about Liberal Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price’s comments praising the rally, the PM says public office holders have a responsibility to promote national unity. “We’re a modern nation that’s benefited from our multiculturalism, that overwhelmingly people live in harmony, of different ethnicities, different religions, different backgrounds, and we’re enriched by the diversity in this country,” he says.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-02/neo-nazi-leader-gatecrashes-jacinta-allan-press-conference/105723820

Neo-Nazi leader Thomas Sewell has gatecrashed a press conference held by Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan, making false claims about protest rights as she addressed media.

The press conference was cut short as Mr Sewell was moved away from the area by security.

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-02/neo-nazi-leader-gatecrashes-jacinta-allan-press-conference/105723820

Neo-Nazi leader Thomas Sewell has gatecrashed a press conference held by Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan, making false claims about protest rights as she addressed media.

The press conference was cut short as Mr Sewell was moved away from the area by security.

Highly unlikely due to who they were, what did and believed in, but could Nazis’s be made fun of to degrade their offensiveness and make them a joke.

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-02/neo-nazi-leader-gatecrashes-jacinta-allan-press-conference/105723820

Neo-Nazi leader Thomas Sewell has gatecrashed a press conference held by Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan, making false claims about protest rights as she addressed media.

The press conference was cut short as Mr Sewell was moved away from the area by security.

Highly unlikely due to who they were, what did and believed in, but could Nazis’s be made fun of to degrade their offensiveness and make them a joke.

I can’t remember who said it, but a long time ago someone said, the Nazis were/are a joke, for sure, but they’re not a joke we can afford to laugh at yet.

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-02/neo-nazi-leader-gatecrashes-jacinta-allan-press-conference/105723820

Neo-Nazi leader Thomas Sewell has gatecrashed a press conference held by Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan, making false claims about protest rights as she addressed media.

The press conference was cut short as Mr Sewell was moved away from the area by security.

Highly unlikely due to who they were, what did and believed in, but could Nazis’s be made fun of to degrade their offensiveness and make them a joke.

I can’t remember who said it, but a long time ago someone said, the Nazis were/are a joke, for sure, but they’re not a joke we can afford to laugh at yet.

what, you can always laugh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-01/kap-leader-unaware-man-at-rally-wearing-neo-nazi-insignia/105721906

Link

Boris said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-01/kap-leader-unaware-man-at-rally-wearing-neo-nazi-insignia/105721906

Link

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BNM5Tf4rV/

Federal Opposition Leader Sussan Ley says she “felt sick” watching footage of a Neo-Nazi confronting Victorian Premier Jacinta Allen at a press conference yesterday.

so tell us about the party’s lurches to the right