Andrews poses with Xi, Putin, huge parade
A former Australian premier has been spotted among world leaders, including Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, as China’s largest military parade gets underway.
https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/kim-jongun-arrives-in-china-with-daughter-to-meet-putin-xi-for-massive-military-parade/news-story/b626b9501ed00d96497e90515c382223
dv said:
Andrews poses with Xi, Putin, huge parade
A former Australian premier has been spotted among world leaders, including Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, as China’s largest military parade gets underway.https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/kim-jongun-arrives-in-china-with-daughter-to-meet-putin-xi-for-massive-military-parade/news-story/b626b9501ed00d96497e90515c382223
All the usual suspects.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Andrews poses with Xi, Putin, huge parade
A former Australian premier has been spotted among world leaders, including Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, as China’s largest military parade gets underway.
All the usual suspects.
and good on them too we should think that self-respecting leaders would want to stand with people who have taken it upon themselves to both mass produce goods to raise the standard of living around the globe while at the same time transitioning to cleaner energy sources to save the environment simultaneously
SCIENCE said:
Is Andrews Eeyore in this scenario?
SCIENCE said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Andrews poses with Xi, Putin, huge parade
A former Australian premier has been spotted among world leaders, including Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, as China’s largest military parade gets underway.
All the usual suspects.
and good on them too we should think that self-respecting leaders would want to stand with people who have taken it upon themselves to both mass produce goods to raise the standard of living around the globe while at the same time transitioning to cleaner energy sources to save the environment simultaneously
I think Bob Carr has gone too, but apparently not to the parade.
dv said:
Andrews poses with Xi, Putin, huge parade
A former Australian premier has been spotted among world leaders, including Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, as China’s largest military parade gets underway.https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/kim-jongun-arrives-in-china-with-daughter-to-meet-putin-xi-for-massive-military-parade/news-story/b626b9501ed00d96497e90515c382223
See he’s not Stalin he’s Mao!
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Andrews poses with Xi, Putin, huge parade
A former Australian premier has been spotted among world leaders, including Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, as China’s largest military parade gets underway.https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/kim-jongun-arrives-in-china-with-daughter-to-meet-putin-xi-for-massive-military-parade/news-story/b626b9501ed00d96497e90515c382223
See he’s not Stalin he’s Mao!
Referencing his dong like a boss
Mr George inherited the shares from his mother, and says he’s “pleased” it’s been raised with him as they do not align with his values.
how dare these corrupt lefties have mothers they should be abandoned in boarding schools by their properly upright parents who married for the connections like all good aristocrats
if these idiots had any clue about the classics they would already know that there is a valid path to correction of this problem but we’re betting that nobody has the brains to wield the Popper gun until it’s too late
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/03/abandoned-queensland-coal-borehole-found-to-be-emitting-10000-cars-worth-of-greenhouse-gas
Abandoned Queensland coal borehole found to be emitting 10,000 cars’ worth of greenhouse gas
dv said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/03/abandoned-queensland-coal-borehole-found-to-be-emitting-10000-cars-worth-of-greenhouse-gasAbandoned Queensland coal borehole found to be emitting 10,000 cars’ worth of greenhouse gas
Is this about Campbell Newman?
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
if these idiots had any clue about the classics they would already know that there is a valid path to correction of this problem but we’re betting that nobody has the brains to wield the Popper gun until it’s too late
OMFG 🤦🏻♀️
A protest linked to anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists and sovereign citizens is being planned for the Sydney Harbour Bridge later this month, in a move that could again test the ability of police to keep the landmark open.
Police said the demonstration, scheduled for September 13, was being organised by an umbrella group known as Australia Unites Against Government Corruption.
According to its website, organisers include My Place Australia, which has campaigned against vaccine mandates and so-called “radical gender theory” in schools.
My Place Australia’s mission statement encourages members to “step away from the current system” and celebrate their “sovereignty”.
Online, some of its members share concerns about 5G towers and ‘chemtrails’.
Other listed organisers include MMAMV Australia, whose Facebook page campaigns against “big pharma” and seeks to help children access “unvaccinated breastmilk”.
‘Ken Facebook, amplifying liars and their lies.
Facebook Have Never Engaged In Interference And Manipulation Of Geopolitics Before And They Never Will
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook%E2%80%93Cambridge_Analytica_data_scandal
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/03/abandoned-queensland-coal-borehole-found-to-be-emitting-10000-cars-worth-of-greenhouse-gasAbandoned Queensland coal borehole found to be emitting 10,000 cars’ worth of greenhouse gas
Is this about Campbell Newman?
Ha
Coalition senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price has admitted she made a “mistake” when she claimed the government’s migration program targeted people who are Labor-leaning.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-03/coalition-calls-for-lower-migration/105729310
well, we disagree, we hope she is not mistaken at all
we’re hoping there really is a bias against antefascists which therefore would entail … a bias towards antifascists
maybe it’s just us but we’re all for that
dv said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/03/abandoned-queensland-coal-borehole-found-to-be-emitting-10000-cars-worth-of-greenhouse-gasAbandoned Queensland coal borehole found to be emitting 10,000 cars’ worth of greenhouse gas
I’d be surprised if fugitive methane wasn’t representative of at least 50% of Surat Basin coal boreholes.
A Vote For Green Is A Vote For CHINA ¡
The Greens spokesperson on Foreign Affairs, Senator David Shoebridge, who was the only federal parliamentarian listed as attending the Chinese embassy concert, suggested the decision to block the embassy event was misguided. “A musical event celebrating the defeat of fascism isn’t the most controversial event held in Canberra this year,” Senator Shoebridge said.
>>Even some of Mr Andrews’s most ardent supporters are flummoxed by the images of the triple election-winning Labor luminary smiling alongside several international pariahs at a major military parade.<<
I don’t see anyone smiling in that photo. When I saw it yesterday it was one of the things I noticed about it. The glum faces.
buffy said:
>>Even some of Mr Andrews’s most ardent supporters are flummoxed by the images of the triple election-winning Labor luminary smiling alongside several international pariahs at a major military parade.<<
I don’t see anyone smiling in that photo. When I saw it yesterday it was one of the things I noticed about it. The glum faces.
Maybe they weren’t happy with the people skills of the government photographer?
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
>>Even some of Mr Andrews’s most ardent supporters are flummoxed by the images of the triple election-winning Labor luminary smiling alongside several international pariahs at a major military parade.<<
I don’t see anyone smiling in that photo. When I saw it yesterday it was one of the things I noticed about it. The glum faces.
Maybe they weren’t happy with the people skills of the government photographer?
yeah exactly consider this idea
The question nearly everyone — Labor friend or foe — is asking is, why would Daniel Andrews turn up for a class photo alongside autocrats and dictators?
so why the fuck do people go and meet kkk wait
oh about the image though we heard that those weirdo ASIAN animals sometimes like to pretend their photographs are serious so they don’t smile but yeah what another stupid ASIAN idea
https://www.smh.com.au/national/high-court-throws-out-ben-roberts-smith-s-defamation-appeal-bid-20250904-p5msc9.html
High Court throws out Ben Roberts-Smith’s defamation appeal bid
On Thursday, the nation’s highest court refused the former Special Air Service corporal’s application for special leave to appeal against a decision of the Full Court of the Federal Court, which had rejected his bid to overturn a decision that found he had committed war crimes.
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Oof. Stay down, chief.
Porepunkah shooting
‘Oh my god, it’s Uncle Des’: The spiralling descent of an alleged police killer
By Melissa Cunningham
September 4, 2025
Long before the deranged ranting and raging began, Luke Filby knew his uncle simply as the man who could make life feel electric – renting Terminator 2, blasting Metallica and mucking around like a fun older brother while they played Super Mario Kart.
Now, those memories are tainted by another set: a Christmas lunch filled with rants about religion and the end of the world. Hours at a hospital deathbed drowned out by angry tirades from his uncle Dezi Freeman against police. A frightening descent into violence and conspiracy theories.
“I tuned it out in the end,” Filby recalls. “It didn’t even make sense to me. It was just like gibberish.”
Somewhere along the way, the uncle who once listened to songs like Metallica’s Enter Sandman began insisting the music was satanic. It was one of the first steps in a long, spiralling collapse that would plunge his entire family deep into his vortex of fixation and paranoia, culminating in the horrific events in Porepunkah.
Filby mourns the man he lost years ago – long before his uncle chose a new life and a new name, before the shootings and the headlines, before Dezi became a fugitive.
“He went through so many different groups in his life phases,” Filby says.
“It was like he always tried to find a place, a group, where he could fit.
The descent of Dezi Freeman is warning of wider perils
“Everything that has unfolded has completely devastated us. It has broken our hearts for the innocent lives lost, and their families involved.”
The last Christmas
The last time Freeman saw his extended family was Christmas 2018, and he spent the day erratically regurgitating his fanatical views to weary relatives on everything from religion and doomsday theories to the impending apocalypse.
During his sudden bursts of rage over lunch, he spewed out vitriol about his hatred of police, his disdain for authorities.
Only months before the family gathering, Freeman was ranting and raving about the government and bracing for the end of the world at his father’s deathbed.
“He was just going on and on about authority and politics,” Filby recalls.
This particular Christmas was a final tipping point for many of the Filbys, splintering an already fractured family, who say they have been estranged from the alleged double murderer for years by both name and ideology.
Freeman, a self-proclaimed “sovereign citizen”, changed his surname from Filby and has been on the run for 10 days after allegedly blasting Detective Leading Senior Constable Neal Thompson, 59, with a home-made shotgun through the door of a bus that the weapons enthusiast was living in near the township of Porepunkah on August 26.
He is then alleged to have opened a window of the bus and shot Senior Constable Vadim de Waart-Hottart, 35, who also died at the scene. Another detective seriously wounded in the attack is understood to have hidden under the bus for up to an hour until paramedics arrived.
Police say officers were at the property to execute a warrant related to historical child sexual abuse offences.
Freeman has not been sighted since, despite hundreds of specialist officers trawling the dense forests, snow-laden mountains and deep valleys of Victoria’s High Country, about 210 kilometres north-east of Melbourne.
In his 20s, he was a tree-hugging environmentalist. A heavy metal fan with unkempt long dark hair who loved to play Nintendo. A devout Christian. Luke Filby recalls his uncle obsessively going to church youth groups and then destroying all his Metallica cassette tapes in the 1990s as he plunged deeper into Christianity and suddenly began to describe the band as “satanic and evil”.
He recalls his uncle bizarrely using a magnet to erase the music from the cassettes in a process known as tape degaussing, which works by using a strong magnetic field to erase data.
Those who have known the 56-year-old for decades say he has always struggled to hold down a job, living off welfare payments and a disability pension for years, and exhibiting what they describe as “narcissistic, racist and misogynistic” traits.
Locals say he has also worked sporadically as a freelance photographer, a diver and an abseiling instructor at “The Gorge” near Bright.
He was also an avid churchgoer, going to mass weekly at the Our Lady of the Snows Catholic Church in Bright – attending for the last time just days before the double shooting.
“He always wanted something for nothing,” says one acquaintance, who knew Freeman for years.
“Huge ego. A real jealous streak. He always wanted what others had but was not prepared to work for it.”
Another family member says he was the type of person “upset with everybody else having something better than him”.
His relatives say he refused to pay parking and speeding fines, and was embroiled in road-rage incidents and countless disputes with neighbours as he became a radicalised, anti-authority conspiracy theorist who adhered to pseudo-legal beliefs in line with sovereign citizens, who believe they are not subject to the law.
His volatile and often violent temperament caused him to constantly fall out with his family. Filby claims members of the family fell out with Freeman after he had an altercation with his own brother.
Mali and a new life
Freeman disappeared to the Philippines soon after this altercation, and Filby says he remembers his uncle suddenly re-emerging in the early 2000s with his wife, Amalia, known as Mali.
He says it was Mali who helped him to temporarily reconnect with his frayed family before they became estranged again.
“She’s such a wonderful, spirited person,” Filby says. “We are very worried about her and the kids. He’s gone on the run from police and has basically thrown them under a bus.”
Filby still mourns the uncle who he says was like an older brother to him as a boy.
“He would rent Terminator 2 from the video store and play Super Mario Kart with me,” he says. “That’s what I loved about him, and so it was just sad that he had this weird anger inside of him, almost like a mental illness. This kind of rage where he constantly threw tantrums.”
‘He always wanted what others had but was not prepared to work for it.’
Acquaintance
But like much of Freeman’s family, Filby had distanced himself from his uncle for years as his behaviour grew more erratic and terrifying.
“My grandparents, Dezi’s mum and dad, were some of the loveliest, good Samaritan Christians ever,” he says. “They never swore or anything. Always tried to do the right thing. They would just be absolutely heartbroken by this.”
Pandemic paranoia and a new tribe
As the years went on, Freeman’s extremist views only hardened. Those who knew him say he became paranoid, setting up surveillance cameras wherever he was living and meticulously researching technology devices as he joined online forums for conspiracy theorists, including a Facebook group dedicated to preparing for the apocalypse.
One family member also recalled him increasingly watching online videos of police brutality, and grotesque terrorism and beheading footage from the Middle East.
Freeman refused to abide by the law, believing it did not apply to him. He frequently spent extended periods in the bush and was known to be an expert hunter. His fixation with firearms and making his own guns intensified, too.
Former landlord Jamie King told this masthead last week that Freeman had a long-running fascination with home-made arsenal dating back more than decade. King recalled his former tenant showing him sketches of guns that he had found on the internet.
“He looked at me, and he said, ‘How hard do you reckon it would be to make them?’” he says.
Freeman had told the farmer he wanted to make his own guns, but had also asked his wife, Mali, to get a firearm licence so he could buy more weapons.
“I said, ‘Why would Mali want a gun?’ And he said, ‘Well, I’ve got assault charges.’”
His intense hatred for police is well-documented in online posts, video footage and court documents.
During a hearing last year appealing against his suspended driver’s licence, Freeman told a court that “even the sight of a cop or a cop car … it’s like an Auschwitz survivor seeing a Nazi soldier”.
He came to public attention for his anti-government stunts during the pandemic, making headlines in 2021 when he helped lead an attempted private prosecution of then-premier Daniel Andrews for treason.
Freeman has for years displayed contempt for police and the justice system, and is known among anti-authority extremist groups for his public stunts.
He has described police as terrorist thugs and Nazis. In the days before the police killings, his wife confided in a neighbour, fearing for his mental health.
In 2023, he posted online “the only good cop is a dead cop”, and called for the “extermination” of politicians. These views appear to have only deepened when he was drawn to the so-called freedom movement during the coronavirus pandemic.
During the pandemic, his behaviour became increasingly erratic. He refused to wear face masks in shops, voiced his refusal to get vaccinated, and told people about his distaste for government restrictions and lockdowns.
“He was anti everything to do with it,” one local said. “He fell down a bit of a rabbit hole. It was all a bit unhinged.”
A friend of Freeman’s wife, Mali, says Freeman began to change during the pandemic, believing the Victorian government had mishandled its COVID-19 response.
She says Freeman had begun to mobilise with a group of people in the community who were also opposed to lockdowns, restrictions and vaccines.
King says Freeman considered himself to be “a bit of a Geronimo” – a reference to the famed Native American leader who resisted both Mexican and American forces in the late 19th century.
“He’s probably wanting to go down in a blaze of glory so he gets written into history,” he says.
King says his former neighbour owned a ghillie suit, an elaborate type of camouflage clothing, that he would wear in the remote bushland when he disappeared into the High Country for weeks on end.
“I reckon he actually thought he was Native American,” King said, adding that Freeman had a tipi, a conical tent of indigenous American tribes, on the property when he lived there.
King still vividly remembers when Freeman came to his house one afternoon holding sketches and drawings he got online about how to make home-made guns.
Looking back now, that moment is chilling.
“I never would have thought it would come to this,” he says.
But another of Freeman’s former neighbours, Gary French, is not shocked by the alleged brutal double murder.
“He’s always been dangerous,” French says. “Anywhere Dezi has lived, he has brought chaos. He’s created a multitude of problems for a lot of people.”
French and his family found themselves embroiled in a bitter land dispute and then a drawn-out civil court case when the suspected gunman began hunting for deer and continually trespassing on their land.
French says Freeman used drones and surveillance technology to spy on, threaten and torment his family when they lived next door to him in Myrtleford between 2017 and 2019.
“We took a civil case against him … It was a two-year process,” French says. “He was defending himself in court. He attempted to arrest the magistrate involved. It was just an absolute circus.”
It cost the family $100,000 in legal fees. French says he often felt police were powerless to stop him.
“He lost his gun licence at that time,” French says. “So I was dumbfounded that he actually got a gun licence back.
“But he has also been convicted of firearm offences previously, so I just couldn’t believe he even had a firearms licence to begin with.”
The making of a mountain man
King says he always felt that Freeman was envious of him because he owned a sprawling block of land in the remote hamlet of Nug Nug, about 20 kilometres west of Porepunkah.
“He was a little bit jealous of me because I own property,” King says.
“He’d say, ‘It’s not fair that you own all this’, and I would say ‘Dezi, I’ve had a job since I was 14 years old’. I’ve never been on Centrelink. I purchased this property.”
He remembers Freeman as a person who was self-absorbed and arrogant. He says he once pretended to be a photographer employed by the Country Fire Authority, wearing a firefighter uniform with the word “media” sewn on it, so he could take photos at close range as bushfires tore through the High Country.
Early one summer’s day, when the two were still neighbours, Freeman told King to come outside his house after midday.
When King went outside, he saw Freeman had climbed a nearby mountain and was standing on top of it holding a tiny mirror in his hand, illuminating the vast countryside below with sunlight.
“You could see this light reflecting from the mirror kilometres away,” he said. “It was incredible. He was just standing there on top of this mountain like he was the king of it.”
Their relationship soured in 2012 during a dispute, when King discovered a vast marijuana crop growing on the property and told Freeman to dig it up within 24 hours.
“He flipped out. I mean this guy went f—-ing nuts … He was in my face screaming that he’s going to shoot me dead,” King says, his eyes flashing wildly as he recounts the encounter.
“It was like a switch flipped. This went on for five or 10 minutes,” King told this masthead earlier this week.
“I have thought a lot about what has happened these last few days, and I didn’t think he had it in him.
‘He’s always been dangerous.’
Gary French, neighbour
“But is he a doomsday prepper? F—-, yeah. I reckon he’s built an underground bunker somewhere or hiding down a mineshaft.”
Exit light, enter night
Filby was outside his home in the regional city of Albury-Wodonga tending to his birds when his mother, Freeman’s sister, called last Tuesday afternoon. While they were chatting about their day, another call came through from Filby’s uncle, Freeman’s brother, and his mother hung up abruptly. Minutes later, she called him back.
“She said, ‘Google Porepunkah shooting right now’,” Filby says. “So I Googled it, and Mum said, ‘Who do you think that is?’ And, I was like ‘Oh my god. It’s Uncle Des’.”
“My mum has been crying her eyes out about it for days,” Filby says.
“We are absolutely heartbroken for the two police officers who have died, their families, and the third guy that was injured.”
Now, Filby is left haunted by two versions of the same man: the uncle who once felt like a brother, and the alleged murderous fugitive accused of killing two police officers.
“I always felt something like this was going to happen,” Filby says. “But I wasn’t sure precisely what would be the thing to finally tip him over the edge.”
https://www.theage.com.au/national/oh-my-god-it-s-uncle-des-the-spiralling-descent-of-an-alleged-police-killer-20250902-p5mrrc.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
Porepunkah shooting
‘Oh my god, it’s Uncle Des’: The spiralling descent of an alleged police killer
By Melissa CunninghamSeptember 4, 2025
Long before the deranged ranting and raging began, Luke Filby knew his uncle simply as the man who could make life feel electric – renting Terminator 2, blasting Metallica and mucking around like a fun older brother while they played Super Mario Kart.
Now, those memories are tainted by another set: a Christmas lunch filled with rants about religion and the end of the world. Hours at a hospital deathbed drowned out by angry tirades from his uncle Dezi Freeman against police. A frightening descent into violence and conspiracy theories.
“I tuned it out in the end,” Filby recalls. “It didn’t even make sense to me. It was just like gibberish.”
Somewhere along the way, the uncle who once listened to songs like Metallica’s Enter Sandman began insisting the music was satanic. It was one of the first steps in a long, spiralling collapse that would plunge his entire family deep into his vortex of fixation and paranoia, culminating in the horrific events in Porepunkah.
Filby mourns the man he lost years ago – long before his uncle chose a new life and a new name, before the shootings and the headlines, before Dezi became a fugitive.
“He went through so many different groups in his life phases,” Filby says.
“It was like he always tried to find a place, a group, where he could fit.
The descent of Dezi Freeman is warning of wider perils
“Everything that has unfolded has completely devastated us. It has broken our hearts for the innocent lives lost, and their families involved.”The last Christmas
The last time Freeman saw his extended family was Christmas 2018, and he spent the day erratically regurgitating his fanatical views to weary relatives on everything from religion and doomsday theories to the impending apocalypse.During his sudden bursts of rage over lunch, he spewed out vitriol about his hatred of police, his disdain for authorities.
Only months before the family gathering, Freeman was ranting and raving about the government and bracing for the end of the world at his father’s deathbed.
“He was just going on and on about authority and politics,” Filby recalls.
This particular Christmas was a final tipping point for many of the Filbys, splintering an already fractured family, who say they have been estranged from the alleged double murderer for years by both name and ideology.
Freeman, a self-proclaimed “sovereign citizen”, changed his surname from Filby and has been on the run for 10 days after allegedly blasting Detective Leading Senior Constable Neal Thompson, 59, with a home-made shotgun through the door of a bus that the weapons enthusiast was living in near the township of Porepunkah on August 26.
He is then alleged to have opened a window of the bus and shot Senior Constable Vadim de Waart-Hottart, 35, who also died at the scene. Another detective seriously wounded in the attack is understood to have hidden under the bus for up to an hour until paramedics arrived.
Police say officers were at the property to execute a warrant related to historical child sexual abuse offences.
Freeman has not been sighted since, despite hundreds of specialist officers trawling the dense forests, snow-laden mountains and deep valleys of Victoria’s High Country, about 210 kilometres north-east of Melbourne.
In his 20s, he was a tree-hugging environmentalist. A heavy metal fan with unkempt long dark hair who loved to play Nintendo. A devout Christian. Luke Filby recalls his uncle obsessively going to church youth groups and then destroying all his Metallica cassette tapes in the 1990s as he plunged deeper into Christianity and suddenly began to describe the band as “satanic and evil”.
He recalls his uncle bizarrely using a magnet to erase the music from the cassettes in a process known as tape degaussing, which works by using a strong magnetic field to erase data.
Those who have known the 56-year-old for decades say he has always struggled to hold down a job, living off welfare payments and a disability pension for years, and exhibiting what they describe as “narcissistic, racist and misogynistic” traits.
Locals say he has also worked sporadically as a freelance photographer, a diver and an abseiling instructor at “The Gorge” near Bright.
He was also an avid churchgoer, going to mass weekly at the Our Lady of the Snows Catholic Church in Bright – attending for the last time just days before the double shooting.
“He always wanted something for nothing,” says one acquaintance, who knew Freeman for years.
“Huge ego. A real jealous streak. He always wanted what others had but was not prepared to work for it.”
Another family member says he was the type of person “upset with everybody else having something better than him”.
His relatives say he refused to pay parking and speeding fines, and was embroiled in road-rage incidents and countless disputes with neighbours as he became a radicalised, anti-authority conspiracy theorist who adhered to pseudo-legal beliefs in line with sovereign citizens, who believe they are not subject to the law.
His volatile and often violent temperament caused him to constantly fall out with his family. Filby claims members of the family fell out with Freeman after he had an altercation with his own brother.
Mali and a new life
Freeman disappeared to the Philippines soon after this altercation, and Filby says he remembers his uncle suddenly re-emerging in the early 2000s with his wife, Amalia, known as Mali.He says it was Mali who helped him to temporarily reconnect with his frayed family before they became estranged again.
“She’s such a wonderful, spirited person,” Filby says. “We are very worried about her and the kids. He’s gone on the run from police and has basically thrown them under a bus.”
Filby still mourns the uncle who he says was like an older brother to him as a boy.
“He would rent Terminator 2 from the video store and play Super Mario Kart with me,” he says. “That’s what I loved about him, and so it was just sad that he had this weird anger inside of him, almost like a mental illness. This kind of rage where he constantly threw tantrums.”
‘He always wanted what others had but was not prepared to work for it.’
Acquaintance
But like much of Freeman’s family, Filby had distanced himself from his uncle for years as his behaviour grew more erratic and terrifying.“My grandparents, Dezi’s mum and dad, were some of the loveliest, good Samaritan Christians ever,” he says. “They never swore or anything. Always tried to do the right thing. They would just be absolutely heartbroken by this.”
Pandemic paranoia and a new tribe
As the years went on, Freeman’s extremist views only hardened. Those who knew him say he became paranoid, setting up surveillance cameras wherever he was living and meticulously researching technology devices as he joined online forums for conspiracy theorists, including a Facebook group dedicated to preparing for the apocalypse.One family member also recalled him increasingly watching online videos of police brutality, and grotesque terrorism and beheading footage from the Middle East.
Freeman refused to abide by the law, believing it did not apply to him. He frequently spent extended periods in the bush and was known to be an expert hunter. His fixation with firearms and making his own guns intensified, too.
Former landlord Jamie King told this masthead last week that Freeman had a long-running fascination with home-made arsenal dating back more than decade. King recalled his former tenant showing him sketches of guns that he had found on the internet.
“He looked at me, and he said, ‘How hard do you reckon it would be to make them?’” he says.
Freeman had told the farmer he wanted to make his own guns, but had also asked his wife, Mali, to get a firearm licence so he could buy more weapons.
“I said, ‘Why would Mali want a gun?’ And he said, ‘Well, I’ve got assault charges.’”
His intense hatred for police is well-documented in online posts, video footage and court documents.
During a hearing last year appealing against his suspended driver’s licence, Freeman told a court that “even the sight of a cop or a cop car … it’s like an Auschwitz survivor seeing a Nazi soldier”.
He came to public attention for his anti-government stunts during the pandemic, making headlines in 2021 when he helped lead an attempted private prosecution of then-premier Daniel Andrews for treason.
Freeman has for years displayed contempt for police and the justice system, and is known among anti-authority extremist groups for his public stunts.
He has described police as terrorist thugs and Nazis. In the days before the police killings, his wife confided in a neighbour, fearing for his mental health.
In 2023, he posted online “the only good cop is a dead cop”, and called for the “extermination” of politicians. These views appear to have only deepened when he was drawn to the so-called freedom movement during the coronavirus pandemic.
During the pandemic, his behaviour became increasingly erratic. He refused to wear face masks in shops, voiced his refusal to get vaccinated, and told people about his distaste for government restrictions and lockdowns.
“He was anti everything to do with it,” one local said. “He fell down a bit of a rabbit hole. It was all a bit unhinged.”
A friend of Freeman’s wife, Mali, says Freeman began to change during the pandemic, believing the Victorian government had mishandled its COVID-19 response.
She says Freeman had begun to mobilise with a group of people in the community who were also opposed to lockdowns, restrictions and vaccines.
King says Freeman considered himself to be “a bit of a Geronimo” – a reference to the famed Native American leader who resisted both Mexican and American forces in the late 19th century.
“He’s probably wanting to go down in a blaze of glory so he gets written into history,” he says.
King says his former neighbour owned a ghillie suit, an elaborate type of camouflage clothing, that he would wear in the remote bushland when he disappeared into the High Country for weeks on end.
“I reckon he actually thought he was Native American,” King said, adding that Freeman had a tipi, a conical tent of indigenous American tribes, on the property when he lived there.
King still vividly remembers when Freeman came to his house one afternoon holding sketches and drawings he got online about how to make home-made guns.
Looking back now, that moment is chilling.
“I never would have thought it would come to this,” he says.
But another of Freeman’s former neighbours, Gary French, is not shocked by the alleged brutal double murder.
“He’s always been dangerous,” French says. “Anywhere Dezi has lived, he has brought chaos. He’s created a multitude of problems for a lot of people.”
French and his family found themselves embroiled in a bitter land dispute and then a drawn-out civil court case when the suspected gunman began hunting for deer and continually trespassing on their land.
French says Freeman used drones and surveillance technology to spy on, threaten and torment his family when they lived next door to him in Myrtleford between 2017 and 2019.
“We took a civil case against him … It was a two-year process,” French says. “He was defending himself in court. He attempted to arrest the magistrate involved. It was just an absolute circus.”
It cost the family $100,000 in legal fees. French says he often felt police were powerless to stop him.
“He lost his gun licence at that time,” French says. “So I was dumbfounded that he actually got a gun licence back.
“But he has also been convicted of firearm offences previously, so I just couldn’t believe he even had a firearms licence to begin with.”
The making of a mountain man
King says he always felt that Freeman was envious of him because he owned a sprawling block of land in the remote hamlet of Nug Nug, about 20 kilometres west of Porepunkah.“He was a little bit jealous of me because I own property,” King says.
“He’d say, ‘It’s not fair that you own all this’, and I would say ‘Dezi, I’ve had a job since I was 14 years old’. I’ve never been on Centrelink. I purchased this property.”
He remembers Freeman as a person who was self-absorbed and arrogant. He says he once pretended to be a photographer employed by the Country Fire Authority, wearing a firefighter uniform with the word “media” sewn on it, so he could take photos at close range as bushfires tore through the High Country.
Early one summer’s day, when the two were still neighbours, Freeman told King to come outside his house after midday.
When King went outside, he saw Freeman had climbed a nearby mountain and was standing on top of it holding a tiny mirror in his hand, illuminating the vast countryside below with sunlight.
“You could see this light reflecting from the mirror kilometres away,” he said. “It was incredible. He was just standing there on top of this mountain like he was the king of it.”
Their relationship soured in 2012 during a dispute, when King discovered a vast marijuana crop growing on the property and told Freeman to dig it up within 24 hours.
“He flipped out. I mean this guy went f—-ing nuts … He was in my face screaming that he’s going to shoot me dead,” King says, his eyes flashing wildly as he recounts the encounter.
“It was like a switch flipped. This went on for five or 10 minutes,” King told this masthead earlier this week.
“I have thought a lot about what has happened these last few days, and I didn’t think he had it in him.
‘He’s always been dangerous.’
Gary French, neighbour
“But is he a doomsday prepper? F—-, yeah. I reckon he’s built an underground bunker somewhere or hiding down a mineshaft.”Exit light, enter night
Filby was outside his home in the regional city of Albury-Wodonga tending to his birds when his mother, Freeman’s sister, called last Tuesday afternoon. While they were chatting about their day, another call came through from Filby’s uncle, Freeman’s brother, and his mother hung up abruptly. Minutes later, she called him back.“She said, ‘Google Porepunkah shooting right now’,” Filby says. “So I Googled it, and Mum said, ‘Who do you think that is?’ And, I was like ‘Oh my god. It’s Uncle Des’.”
“My mum has been crying her eyes out about it for days,” Filby says.
“We are absolutely heartbroken for the two police officers who have died, their families, and the third guy that was injured.”
Now, Filby is left haunted by two versions of the same man: the uncle who once felt like a brother, and the alleged murderous fugitive accused of killing two police officers.
“I always felt something like this was going to happen,” Filby says. “But I wasn’t sure precisely what would be the thing to finally tip him over the edge.”
https://www.theage.com.au/national/oh-my-god-it-s-uncle-des-the-spiralling-descent-of-an-alleged-police-killer-20250902-p5mrrc.html
Thanks for the background info on the alleged cop-killer.
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Porepunkah shooting
‘Oh my god, it’s Uncle Des’: The spiralling descent of an alleged police killer
By Melissa CunninghamSeptember 4, 2025
Long before the deranged ranting and raging began, Luke Filby knew his uncle simply as the man who could make life feel electric – renting Terminator 2, blasting Metallica and mucking around like a fun older brother while they played Super Mario Kart.
Now, those memories are tainted by another set: a Christmas lunch filled with rants about religion and the end of the world. Hours at a hospital deathbed drowned out by angry tirades from his uncle Dezi Freeman against police. A frightening descent into violence and conspiracy theories.
“I tuned it out in the end,” Filby recalls. “It didn’t even make sense to me. It was just like gibberish.”
Somewhere along the way, the uncle who once listened to songs like Metallica’s Enter Sandman began insisting the music was satanic. It was one of the first steps in a long, spiralling collapse that would plunge his entire family deep into his vortex of fixation and paranoia, culminating in the horrific events in Porepunkah.
Filby mourns the man he lost years ago – long before his uncle chose a new life and a new name, before the shootings and the headlines, before Dezi became a fugitive.
“He went through so many different groups in his life phases,” Filby says.
“It was like he always tried to find a place, a group, where he could fit.
The descent of Dezi Freeman is warning of wider perils
“Everything that has unfolded has completely devastated us. It has broken our hearts for the innocent lives lost, and their families involved.”The last Christmas
The last time Freeman saw his extended family was Christmas 2018, and he spent the day erratically regurgitating his fanatical views to weary relatives on everything from religion and doomsday theories to the impending apocalypse.During his sudden bursts of rage over lunch, he spewed out vitriol about his hatred of police, his disdain for authorities.
Only months before the family gathering, Freeman was ranting and raving about the government and bracing for the end of the world at his father’s deathbed.
“He was just going on and on about authority and politics,” Filby recalls.
This particular Christmas was a final tipping point for many of the Filbys, splintering an already fractured family, who say they have been estranged from the alleged double murderer for years by both name and ideology.
Freeman, a self-proclaimed “sovereign citizen”, changed his surname from Filby and has been on the run for 10 days after allegedly blasting Detective Leading Senior Constable Neal Thompson, 59, with a home-made shotgun through the door of a bus that the weapons enthusiast was living in near the township of Porepunkah on August 26.
He is then alleged to have opened a window of the bus and shot Senior Constable Vadim de Waart-Hottart, 35, who also died at the scene. Another detective seriously wounded in the attack is understood to have hidden under the bus for up to an hour until paramedics arrived.
Police say officers were at the property to execute a warrant related to historical child sexual abuse offences.
Freeman has not been sighted since, despite hundreds of specialist officers trawling the dense forests, snow-laden mountains and deep valleys of Victoria’s High Country, about 210 kilometres north-east of Melbourne.
In his 20s, he was a tree-hugging environmentalist. A heavy metal fan with unkempt long dark hair who loved to play Nintendo. A devout Christian. Luke Filby recalls his uncle obsessively going to church youth groups and then destroying all his Metallica cassette tapes in the 1990s as he plunged deeper into Christianity and suddenly began to describe the band as “satanic and evil”.
He recalls his uncle bizarrely using a magnet to erase the music from the cassettes in a process known as tape degaussing, which works by using a strong magnetic field to erase data.
Those who have known the 56-year-old for decades say he has always struggled to hold down a job, living off welfare payments and a disability pension for years, and exhibiting what they describe as “narcissistic, racist and misogynistic” traits.
Locals say he has also worked sporadically as a freelance photographer, a diver and an abseiling instructor at “The Gorge” near Bright.
He was also an avid churchgoer, going to mass weekly at the Our Lady of the Snows Catholic Church in Bright – attending for the last time just days before the double shooting.
“He always wanted something for nothing,” says one acquaintance, who knew Freeman for years.
“Huge ego. A real jealous streak. He always wanted what others had but was not prepared to work for it.”
Another family member says he was the type of person “upset with everybody else having something better than him”.
His relatives say he refused to pay parking and speeding fines, and was embroiled in road-rage incidents and countless disputes with neighbours as he became a radicalised, anti-authority conspiracy theorist who adhered to pseudo-legal beliefs in line with sovereign citizens, who believe they are not subject to the law.
His volatile and often violent temperament caused him to constantly fall out with his family. Filby claims members of the family fell out with Freeman after he had an altercation with his own brother.
Mali and a new life
Freeman disappeared to the Philippines soon after this altercation, and Filby says he remembers his uncle suddenly re-emerging in the early 2000s with his wife, Amalia, known as Mali.He says it was Mali who helped him to temporarily reconnect with his frayed family before they became estranged again.
“She’s such a wonderful, spirited person,” Filby says. “We are very worried about her and the kids. He’s gone on the run from police and has basically thrown them under a bus.”
Filby still mourns the uncle who he says was like an older brother to him as a boy.
“He would rent Terminator 2 from the video store and play Super Mario Kart with me,” he says. “That’s what I loved about him, and so it was just sad that he had this weird anger inside of him, almost like a mental illness. This kind of rage where he constantly threw tantrums.”
‘He always wanted what others had but was not prepared to work for it.’
Acquaintance
But like much of Freeman’s family, Filby had distanced himself from his uncle for years as his behaviour grew more erratic and terrifying.“My grandparents, Dezi’s mum and dad, were some of the loveliest, good Samaritan Christians ever,” he says. “They never swore or anything. Always tried to do the right thing. They would just be absolutely heartbroken by this.”
Pandemic paranoia and a new tribe
As the years went on, Freeman’s extremist views only hardened. Those who knew him say he became paranoid, setting up surveillance cameras wherever he was living and meticulously researching technology devices as he joined online forums for conspiracy theorists, including a Facebook group dedicated to preparing for the apocalypse.One family member also recalled him increasingly watching online videos of police brutality, and grotesque terrorism and beheading footage from the Middle East.
Freeman refused to abide by the law, believing it did not apply to him. He frequently spent extended periods in the bush and was known to be an expert hunter. His fixation with firearms and making his own guns intensified, too.
Former landlord Jamie King told this masthead last week that Freeman had a long-running fascination with home-made arsenal dating back more than decade. King recalled his former tenant showing him sketches of guns that he had found on the internet.
“He looked at me, and he said, ‘How hard do you reckon it would be to make them?’” he says.
Freeman had told the farmer he wanted to make his own guns, but had also asked his wife, Mali, to get a firearm licence so he could buy more weapons.
“I said, ‘Why would Mali want a gun?’ And he said, ‘Well, I’ve got assault charges.’”
His intense hatred for police is well-documented in online posts, video footage and court documents.
During a hearing last year appealing against his suspended driver’s licence, Freeman told a court that “even the sight of a cop or a cop car … it’s like an Auschwitz survivor seeing a Nazi soldier”.
He came to public attention for his anti-government stunts during the pandemic, making headlines in 2021 when he helped lead an attempted private prosecution of then-premier Daniel Andrews for treason.
Freeman has for years displayed contempt for police and the justice system, and is known among anti-authority extremist groups for his public stunts.
He has described police as terrorist thugs and Nazis. In the days before the police killings, his wife confided in a neighbour, fearing for his mental health.
In 2023, he posted online “the only good cop is a dead cop”, and called for the “extermination” of politicians. These views appear to have only deepened when he was drawn to the so-called freedom movement during the coronavirus pandemic.
During the pandemic, his behaviour became increasingly erratic. He refused to wear face masks in shops, voiced his refusal to get vaccinated, and told people about his distaste for government restrictions and lockdowns.
“He was anti everything to do with it,” one local said. “He fell down a bit of a rabbit hole. It was all a bit unhinged.”
A friend of Freeman’s wife, Mali, says Freeman began to change during the pandemic, believing the Victorian government had mishandled its COVID-19 response.
She says Freeman had begun to mobilise with a group of people in the community who were also opposed to lockdowns, restrictions and vaccines.
King says Freeman considered himself to be “a bit of a Geronimo” – a reference to the famed Native American leader who resisted both Mexican and American forces in the late 19th century.
“He’s probably wanting to go down in a blaze of glory so he gets written into history,” he says.
King says his former neighbour owned a ghillie suit, an elaborate type of camouflage clothing, that he would wear in the remote bushland when he disappeared into the High Country for weeks on end.
“I reckon he actually thought he was Native American,” King said, adding that Freeman had a tipi, a conical tent of indigenous American tribes, on the property when he lived there.
King still vividly remembers when Freeman came to his house one afternoon holding sketches and drawings he got online about how to make home-made guns.
Looking back now, that moment is chilling.
“I never would have thought it would come to this,” he says.
But another of Freeman’s former neighbours, Gary French, is not shocked by the alleged brutal double murder.
“He’s always been dangerous,” French says. “Anywhere Dezi has lived, he has brought chaos. He’s created a multitude of problems for a lot of people.”
French and his family found themselves embroiled in a bitter land dispute and then a drawn-out civil court case when the suspected gunman began hunting for deer and continually trespassing on their land.
French says Freeman used drones and surveillance technology to spy on, threaten and torment his family when they lived next door to him in Myrtleford between 2017 and 2019.
“We took a civil case against him … It was a two-year process,” French says. “He was defending himself in court. He attempted to arrest the magistrate involved. It was just an absolute circus.”
It cost the family $100,000 in legal fees. French says he often felt police were powerless to stop him.
“He lost his gun licence at that time,” French says. “So I was dumbfounded that he actually got a gun licence back.
“But he has also been convicted of firearm offences previously, so I just couldn’t believe he even had a firearms licence to begin with.”
The making of a mountain man
King says he always felt that Freeman was envious of him because he owned a sprawling block of land in the remote hamlet of Nug Nug, about 20 kilometres west of Porepunkah.“He was a little bit jealous of me because I own property,” King says.
“He’d say, ‘It’s not fair that you own all this’, and I would say ‘Dezi, I’ve had a job since I was 14 years old’. I’ve never been on Centrelink. I purchased this property.”
He remembers Freeman as a person who was self-absorbed and arrogant. He says he once pretended to be a photographer employed by the Country Fire Authority, wearing a firefighter uniform with the word “media” sewn on it, so he could take photos at close range as bushfires tore through the High Country.
Early one summer’s day, when the two were still neighbours, Freeman told King to come outside his house after midday.
When King went outside, he saw Freeman had climbed a nearby mountain and was standing on top of it holding a tiny mirror in his hand, illuminating the vast countryside below with sunlight.
“You could see this light reflecting from the mirror kilometres away,” he said. “It was incredible. He was just standing there on top of this mountain like he was the king of it.”
Their relationship soured in 2012 during a dispute, when King discovered a vast marijuana crop growing on the property and told Freeman to dig it up within 24 hours.
“He flipped out. I mean this guy went f—-ing nuts … He was in my face screaming that he’s going to shoot me dead,” King says, his eyes flashing wildly as he recounts the encounter.
“It was like a switch flipped. This went on for five or 10 minutes,” King told this masthead earlier this week.
“I have thought a lot about what has happened these last few days, and I didn’t think he had it in him.
‘He’s always been dangerous.’
Gary French, neighbour
“But is he a doomsday prepper? F—-, yeah. I reckon he’s built an underground bunker somewhere or hiding down a mineshaft.”Exit light, enter night
Filby was outside his home in the regional city of Albury-Wodonga tending to his birds when his mother, Freeman’s sister, called last Tuesday afternoon. While they were chatting about their day, another call came through from Filby’s uncle, Freeman’s brother, and his mother hung up abruptly. Minutes later, she called him back.“She said, ‘Google Porepunkah shooting right now’,” Filby says. “So I Googled it, and Mum said, ‘Who do you think that is?’ And, I was like ‘Oh my god. It’s Uncle Des’.”
“My mum has been crying her eyes out about it for days,” Filby says.
“We are absolutely heartbroken for the two police officers who have died, their families, and the third guy that was injured.”
Now, Filby is left haunted by two versions of the same man: the uncle who once felt like a brother, and the alleged murderous fugitive accused of killing two police officers.
“I always felt something like this was going to happen,” Filby says. “But I wasn’t sure precisely what would be the thing to finally tip him over the edge.”
https://www.theage.com.au/national/oh-my-god-it-s-uncle-des-the-spiralling-descent-of-an-alleged-police-killer-20250902-p5mrrc.html
Thanks for the background info on the alleged cop-killer.
so he should collect that cool million then
He denied the offering of a record reward was the result of the investigation hitting a dead-end. “It’s not an act of desperation and it’s far from it,” Detective Inspector Dean Thomas said.
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That sound reasonable, but are there actually good reasons for the proposed changes?
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The Rev Dodgson said:
Get-up want me to sign a petition against proposed changes to Freedom of Information laws.That sound reasonable, but are there actually good reasons for the proposed changes?
Well, what are the changes?
I don’t know.
That’s why I’m asking the experts here.
Who would have thought that Linda Reynolds could be so reasonable?
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‘I’m glad we didn’t win’: Liberal campaigners feared Brethren-fuelled Dutton victory
By Michael Bachelard
September 6, 2025 — 5.00am
The Plymouth Brethren Christian Church pumped so much cash and on-the-ground support into the Liberal Party’s 2025 election campaign that some party officials feared the religious sect would hold significant sway over an incoming Peter Dutton government.
Four party sources and two from the extreme separatist church confirmed for the first time the scale of the operation in the months leading into the May 3 federal election, and how deeply enmeshed Brethren elders were in Liberal campaign teams in marginal seats.
A former member of the church, Cassie Davies, tried to quiz Brethren members about their political activities. She was met with an organised cover-up.
The extent of the involvement worried some Liberal campaigners so much they said they had hoped their side would lose.
“I’m glad we didn’t win because … I was scared about what that would have meant,” one experienced Liberal official told this masthead, speaking anonymously because they were not authorised to be quoted.
“So many of our candidates would have been beholden to the Brethren – and I think they would have made policy demands,” a second party campaigner said. “You don’t put that sort of money in if you don’t want something. You want control of the morality of the country, the views of the government.”
Former Liberal senator Linda Reynolds told this masthead that it was “highly implausible that this was not co-ordinated at the highest levels of the party and the Brethren”.
Brethren members, wearing clothes to make them unrecognisable as such, head to a polling booth in Kooyong in support of the Liberal candidate.
Brethren members, wearing clothes to make them unrecognisable as such, head to a polling booth in Kooyong in support of the Liberal candidate.
The Brethren’s unprecedented election effort, and the behaviour of some members at polling booths, will come under scrutiny from the government’s joint standing committee on electoral matters, which announced the terms of reference of its inquiry on Tuesday.
Special Minister of State Don Farrell has asked the committee to examine the “purported increase in incidents of aggressive conduct” during the campaign, and to consider “reforms to address the ongoing threats of interference … both foreign and domestic”.
Committee chairman Jerome Laxale has previously complained about the Brethren’s activities in his electorate, saying their mass presence at polling booths had been “one of the strangest and most offensive experiences I’ve ever gone through as a candidate”.
On Tuesday, announcing the committee’s terms of reference, he called for evidence from the public nationwide. He did not mention the Brethren specifically, but said “a line was crossed” this year, particularly in marginal and target seats with a co-ordinated campaign.
“Without a doubt, what we saw in 2025 was an escalation … and we do not want that to become normalised. We need to protect our democracy and not have any domestic or foreign interference,” he said.
Reynolds was the first in the party to publicly raise concerns and has asked Liberal elders Nick Minchin and Pru Goward to investigate them in their review of the party. A review spokesperson confirmed the issue was under consideration.
The party’s federal director, Andrew Hirst, declined to comment, and Dutton did not respond to a request for comment. Both Dutton’s office during the campaign and the Brethren denied high-level co-ordination of the campaign effort.
Members of the church, formerly known as the Exclusive Brethren, generally do not vote. World leader, Sydney businessman Bruce Hales, preaches that his followers must “get a hatred” for society, which he says will defile and contaminate them. He calls them “saints”.
“You’d ask for $50,000 for polling, then say, ‘Can I have a look at it?’”
Liberal campaign official speaking anonymously.
Despite their so-called “doctrine of separation”, he and other Brethren elders have long sought influence over conservative governments globally, including by lobbying, secret donations and “under the radar” political campaigning.
During the campaign, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese described the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church as a “cult” and demanded to know from the Coalition what the “quid pro quo” was for their support.
Neither political nor Brethren sources could pinpoint what, if anything, the Brethren would have wanted from a Dutton administration, but businesses and charities run by church members have multiple interactions with governments.
Businesses run by its members often bid for lucrative government tenders, the church’s public-facing charity, Rapid Relief Team, seeks and wins government grants, and the church relies on generous public funding for its schools. What they call their “community ecosystem” interlinks businesses with charitable entities, which rely heavily on retaining their tax-free status.
This “ecosystem” has been under investigation by the Australian Tax Office’s Private Wealth: Behaviours of Concern section for the past 18 months. One Brethren accountant has already been stripped of his registration as a tax practitioner for fraud and misconduct.
Hales, a multimillionaire Sydney-based businessman, met regularly with John Howard when he was prime minister.
The Liberal Party’s current national Right-faction leader, Angus Taylor, has praised the church in the past and organised a number of grants for the Rapid Relief Team, which has provided food and coffee to Tony Abbott’s “pollie pedal” bike ride.
Taylor did not answer a question on the record about whether he had facilitated contact between senior Brethren figures and the party. He said the Rapid Relief Team did “outstanding work in helping Australians in need”.
The Brethren have campaigned and donated to the Liberal Party regularly in the past. But at this year’s campaign, their election effort was “turbo-charged”, according to a senior Liberal figure.
Brethren sources, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of ramifications, have revealed that businesses and individuals spent months working for the Coalition at their own cost and directed significant financial resources into Dutton’s campaign.
Liberal sources said the party gave Brethren representatives unfettered access to the proprietary campaign software Feedback, which is exempt from the Privacy Act because it is used by a political party.
Brethren members used the software from their own call centres, accessing its extraordinarily detailed profiles of individuals to make about a million phone calls to voters pushing for a Liberal victory, the sources said.
Party campaigners on the ground confirmed that each electorate was assigned a Brethren business leader, or co-ordinator, as well as two deputies, and dozens of ordinary Brethren members to carry out the work. The effort ramped up once pre-polling started, with 30 to 40 Brethren members flooding booths in the two weeks leading up to polling day.
Brethren businesses also poured what is likely to have been millions of dollars in donations into Liberal campaigns at the electorate level in what were considered winnable marginal seats.
A Brethren insider, speaking anonymously, said there was pressure from the church hierarchy to contribute and instructions to do so from various different entities, including family trusts, individuals and business entities, to keep individual donations below the disclosure threshold of $16,900.
This means the true extent of the funding will probably never be revealed.
A second church insider confirmed this: “I personally know large business owners who were handed bills exceeding $100,000 to cover expenses like charter flights, accommodation and other things.”
Because of the power the church hierarchy wields over the daily lives of its members, the insider said people “have no choice but to cough up the money”.
One Liberal campaigner from NSW said up to $500,000 had flooded in from the Brethren into some marginal electorates – which would have accounted for close to 100 per cent of fundraising for those candidates.
In return, the Brethren donors wanted a say over the campaign, the party sources said.
“The requests were just constant . ‘Can I have another $15k, $30k, $80k for key seats?’ You’d ask for $50k for polling, then say, ‘Can I have a look at it?’ $25k for a mailout? ‘Well, I don’t like what you’ve done.’ $30k for social media? ‘I don’t like the way you’re dressed in that video’ …
“They were very coercive and controlling of our candidates.”
A second party campaigner said: “It looked to me like the Liberal Party was prepared to sell the party.”
The two Liberal campaign officials confirmed that Brethren co-ordinators had requested access to candidate campaign diaries, as well as press release templates, details of where the candidates were working, and their plans.
“They absolutely were trying to run the place,” one party campaigner said. “They’d go and organise to clean our candidates’ houses, cook food for the family, babysit, mow the lawn, all for free. They’d say, ‘No, you’re putting yourself forward for democracy; we’re going to look after you.’”
On party documents and in phone conversations, the Brethren were referred to as “friends” or “the religious people”, party sources have said.
The details now emerging call into question the arguments of both a Brethren spokesperson and Dutton’s office during the campaign that there was no top-level agreement to secure this help, only individuals and businesses working independently at local electorate level.
“I knew it went all the way to the top because it was all so centrally organised,” said one party campaigner. “They pretty much had a line of connection – a direct contact into Dutton’s office, and the federal secretariat would come to us to ask us to co-ordinate with them, and we’d disseminate that to the candidates.”
This masthead has previously reported that a member of Dutton’s staff, Sam Jackson-Hope, was in charge of co-ordinating the effort. However, senior party sources have said they do not believe he negotiated the arrangement with the church.
Asked if the campaign had been co-ordinated by the church, Brethren spokesman Lloyd Grimshaw said it “didn’t organise anything, and certainly does not make political donations”.
“If individual members of our church – or indeed any church – wish to be involved in the political process by volunteering or donating, it is a matter for the individual.”
However, one of the Brethren insiders said: “Do you really think in Bruce Hales’ ecosystem that an entire country of Brethren can take up to four months off work and be out in disguises (things that would normally result in excommunication), be out campaigning openly, be flying around to remote areas of the country and staying away all week in hotels to campaign, changing times of local church meetings to accommodate it, without it being centrally organised?”
Within the Brethren, sources have said the election campaign was referred to as “King’s business” – referring to activity being conducted on Hales’ behalf – or “secret service”.
In response, Grimshaw said he “can’t comment on every comment that every parishioner has ever made” and that it “sounds like they were having a joke”.
Under Australian electoral law, outside groups that spend more than $250,000 trying to persuade people during a campaign must register as a “significant third party”, which brings clear disclosure obligations. Charities are not permitted to retain their tax-free status if they are involved in party political campaigning.
Brethren entities run multiple, extremely wealthy charities.
Both Brethren insiders said there was shock at the top levels of the religion when the Liberal Party went backwards on May 3.
“It has had a bit of a cooling effect on their enthusiasm and belief in Hales’ infallibility,” said one.
“Everyone is so gobsmacked and gutted, due to the effort and expense, that no one wants to talk about it,” said the second insider. “It’s really hit people’s morale.”
Linda Reynolds, who ceased being a Liberal senator on June 30, said the church’s comprehensive and public activity during the campaign is likely to have compounded her party’s “so-called women problem”.
“It was unacceptable that we were associated with a group whose treatment of women, to me, is reprehensible and misogynistic,” Reynolds said.
She said a core problem was the expense of running modern campaigns, which led to financial vulnerability. This was not just a Liberal Party issue, but was “symptomatic of the wider problem all political parties have”.
“The teals have Simon Holmes à Court’s network, Labor has the unions, but the Liberal Party has no equivalent, which, I believe, makes it more vulnerable to organisations, both secular and non-secular, with deep pockets and political agendas,” Reynolds said.
Former Liberal campaigner and now consultant Tony Barry said a party could make a million canvassing phone calls, but they were “only as effective as the messenger, or the message”.
“If either is no good, it’s probably a net negative for the party,” he said.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/i-m-glad-we-didn-t-win-liberal-campaigners-feared-brethren-fuelled-dutton-victory-20250901-p5mrjc.html
Been going on for years hasn’t it?
Simplistic solution, strip tax-exempt status from “charities” that dabble in politics.
party_pants said:
Been going on for years hasn’t it?Simplistic solution, strip tax-exempt status from “charities” that dabble in politics.
I saw the headline, but have only just read the article (on here).
Has it really been going on for years?
I’d agree with banning all not-for-profit bodies from making political donations.
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
Been going on for years hasn’t it?Simplistic solution, strip tax-exempt status from “charities” that dabble in politics.
I saw the headline, but have only just read the article (on here).
Has it really been going on for years?
I’d agree with banning all not-for-profit bodies from making political donations.
Like unions.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
Been going on for years hasn’t it?Simplistic solution, strip tax-exempt status from “charities” that dabble in politics.
I saw the headline, but have only just read the article (on here).
Has it really been going on for years?
I’d agree with banning all not-for-profit bodies from making political donations.
Like unions.
Hmmm.
I might reconsider my position on that one.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
Been going on for years hasn’t it?Simplistic solution, strip tax-exempt status from “charities” that dabble in politics.
I saw the headline, but have only just read the article (on here).
Has it really been going on for years?
I’d agree with banning all not-for-profit bodies from making political donations.
Like unions.
Yeah only profit driven organizations like the Business Council of Australia should be allowed to contribute to political campaigns.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I saw the headline, but have only just read the article (on here).
Has it really been going on for years?
I’d agree with banning all not-for-profit bodies from making political donations.
Like unions.
Hmmm.
I might reconsider my position on that one.
also The Rev Dodgson or someone was asking about FOI changes the other day and yousr ABC have now provided a prose on it
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Like unions.
Hmmm.
I might reconsider my position on that one.
also The Rev Dodgson or someone was asking about FOI changes the other day and yousr ABC have now provided a prose on it
Thanks mr science, I was beginning to think that no-one cared about the freedom of their information.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:The Rev Dodgson said:
Hmmm.
I might reconsider my position on that one.
also The Rev Dodgson or someone was asking about FOI changes the other day and yousr ABC have now provided a prose on it
Thanks mr science, I was beginning to think that no-one cared about the freedom of their information.
… and having read that, it’s worth a read.
‘Crying shame’: Inside the demise of Australia’s only battery maker
Brian Craighead spent a decade trying to build an industry. He blames a cash crisis, a glut of Chinese product and shambolic federal policies for its failure.
A future Made in Australia was to be the miraculous blue pill for Australia’s flaccid manufacturing capability and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was the physician, scribbling scripts for the flagging patient.
We needed to seize the moment, Albanese told an audience in Queensland in April 2024, as we’d not get another shot. “If we don’t act to shape the future, the future will shape us,” he implored. We needed to be value-adding to our vast resources, rather than just harvesting, shearing, slaughtering, shovelling and shipping it out. We needed to support manufacturing, to give it a leg up, to allow it to reach a scale to compete internationally, just as the rest of the world was doing, particularly in sectors of great national importance.
The US, Japan, the EU, South Korea, Canada … had all passed legislation to bolster manufacturing and to protect vital industries. And to compete with China. “All these countries are investing in their industrial base, their manufacturing capability and their economic sovereignty,” the prime minister said. “This is not old-fashioned protectionism or isolationism – it is the new competition.”
Spiny Norman said:
‘Crying shame’: Inside the demise of Australia’s only battery maker
Brian Craighead spent a decade trying to build an industry. He blames a cash crisis, a glut of Chinese product and shambolic federal policies for its failure.A future Made in Australia was to be the miraculous blue pill for Australia’s flaccid manufacturing capability and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was the physician, scribbling scripts for the flagging patient.
We needed to seize the moment, Albanese told an audience in Queensland in April 2024, as we’d not get another shot. “If we don’t act to shape the future, the future will shape us,” he implored. We needed to be value-adding to our vast resources, rather than just harvesting, shearing, slaughtering, shovelling and shipping it out. We needed to support manufacturing, to give it a leg up, to allow it to reach a scale to compete internationally, just as the rest of the world was doing, particularly in sectors of great national importance.
The US, Japan, the EU, South Korea, Canada … had all passed legislation to bolster manufacturing and to protect vital industries. And to compete with China. “All these countries are investing in their industrial base, their manufacturing capability and their economic sovereignty,” the prime minister said. “This is not old-fashioned protectionism or isolationism – it is the new competition.”
Subscribers only.
Bubblecar said:
Spiny Norman said:
‘Crying shame’: Inside the demise of Australia’s only battery maker
Brian Craighead spent a decade trying to build an industry. He blames a cash crisis, a glut of Chinese product and shambolic federal policies for its failure.A future Made in Australia was to be the miraculous blue pill for Australia’s flaccid manufacturing capability and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was the physician, scribbling scripts for the flagging patient.
We needed to seize the moment, Albanese told an audience in Queensland in April 2024, as we’d not get another shot. “If we don’t act to shape the future, the future will shape us,” he implored. We needed to be value-adding to our vast resources, rather than just harvesting, shearing, slaughtering, shovelling and shipping it out. We needed to support manufacturing, to give it a leg up, to allow it to reach a scale to compete internationally, just as the rest of the world was doing, particularly in sectors of great national importance.
The US, Japan, the EU, South Korea, Canada … had all passed legislation to bolster manufacturing and to protect vital industries. And to compete with China. “All these countries are investing in their industrial base, their manufacturing capability and their economic sovereignty,” the prime minister said. “This is not old-fashioned protectionism or isolationism – it is the new competition.”
Subscribers only.
Weird, I got in first time okay.
Spiny Norman said:
Bubblecar said:
Spiny Norman said:
‘Crying shame’: Inside the demise of Australia’s only battery maker
Brian Craighead spent a decade trying to build an industry. He blames a cash crisis, a glut of Chinese product and shambolic federal policies for its failure.A future Made in Australia was to be the miraculous blue pill for Australia’s flaccid manufacturing capability and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was the physician, scribbling scripts for the flagging patient.
We needed to seize the moment, Albanese told an audience in Queensland in April 2024, as we’d not get another shot. “If we don’t act to shape the future, the future will shape us,” he implored. We needed to be value-adding to our vast resources, rather than just harvesting, shearing, slaughtering, shovelling and shipping it out. We needed to support manufacturing, to give it a leg up, to allow it to reach a scale to compete internationally, just as the rest of the world was doing, particularly in sectors of great national importance.
The US, Japan, the EU, South Korea, Canada … had all passed legislation to bolster manufacturing and to protect vital industries. And to compete with China. “All these countries are investing in their industrial base, their manufacturing capability and their economic sovereignty,” the prime minister said. “This is not old-fashioned protectionism or isolationism – it is the new competition.”
Subscribers only.
Weird, I got in first time okay.
we blame capitalism
SCIENCE said:
Spiny Norman said:
Bubblecar said:Subscribers only.
Weird, I got in first time okay.
we blame capitalism
bugger that! seize the means of production I say!
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Disturbing…
A large cache of leaked private messages has revealed how Australian Neo-Nazi groups took inspiration from their counterparts overseas.
Australia’s largest Neo-Nazi group — the National Socialist Network — has been following a far-right playbook as it seeks to position itself as a political movement for Australians with fringe views.
And here’s me thinking we’d generally moved away from the far right, considering the LNP’s thumping in the election.
look it’s only foreign interference if it’s Communists from CHINA otherwise it’s just sparkling swastikas and misappropriated Buddhist symbolism
The fear some have expressed privately is that the latest saga is baking in a view that the Liberals have a fundamental problem with multicultural Australia and that there is no future for the party without cultivating these diaspora communities. Demography is destiny, and the Labor Party has already begun weaponising the saga to paint the Liberals as hostile to the Indian community.
LOL don’t worry people love this stuff it totally hasn’t been happening for 2 decades weeks it completely left the Party out in the wilderness for all that time
wait
there, see
A leaked 2020 recruiting manual for the NSN revealed the group’s tactic of using numbers for propaganda.
“We must utilise the power of numbers wherever we can. This applies to activist activities in which activists are meant to be seen by the public, such as leafleting, banner drops and demonstrations.
“We must have as many people as we can wherever we can. This provides social proof. The majority of people judge the validity of an idea by the number of adherents that it attracts.”
National Socialism Is Democracy ¡
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“If you do something like mandate cat containment, you bring in some really severe equity issues, and you put cat ownership out of the financial reach of people, and people who are renting.”
SCIENCE said:
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“If you do something like mandate cat containment, you bring in some really severe equity issues, and you put cat ownership out of the financial reach of people, and people who are renting.”
If they can’t afford the rent, how do they account for stuff like cat food?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:¿¿¿¡¿¿
“If you do something like mandate cat containment, you bring in some really severe equity issues, and you put cat ownership out of the financial reach of people, and people who are renting.”
If they can’t afford the rent, how do they account for stuff like cat food?
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:¿¿¿¡¿¿
“If you do something like mandate cat containment, you bring in some really severe equity issues, and you put cat ownership out of the financial reach of people, and people who are renting.”
If they can’t afford the rent, how do they account for stuff like cat food?
Paying a dollar a tin for cat food is fine, paying for vet bills and medications like flea treatment or vaccinations is out of reach.
So leave the cat to wander around killing skinks and put a tin of food out for it?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:¿¿¿¡¿¿
“If you do something like mandate cat containment, you bring in some really severe equity issues, and you put cat ownership out of the financial reach of people, and people who are renting.”
If they can’t afford the rent, how do they account for stuff like cat food?
Here let me help you…
There are organisations that provide financial support for cat and dog care to low income people. There are even no cost vet services that work with people who live on the streets with their animal companion.
Food, vet bills, shit like that.
kii said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:¿¿¿¡¿¿
“If you do something like mandate cat containment, you bring in some really severe equity issues, and you put cat ownership out of the financial reach of people, and people who are renting.”
If they can’t afford the rent, how do they account for stuff like cat food?
Here let me help you…
There are organisations that provide financial support for cat and dog care to low income people. There are even no cost vet services that work with people who live on the streets with their animal companion.
Food, vet bills, shit like that.
Well there you go.
kii said:
SCIENCE said:
¿¿¿¡¿¿
“If you do something like mandate cat containment, you bring in some really severe equity issues, and you put cat ownership out of the financial reach of people, and people who are renting.”
…
Here let me help you…
There are organisations that provide financial support for cat and dog care to low income people. There are even no cost vet services that work with people who live on the streets with their animal companion.
Food, vet bills, shit like that.
But do they build cat containment?
or
is it better/cheaper to simply keep the cat locked in the house?
roughbarked said:
kii said:SCIENCE said:
¿¿¿¡¿¿
“If you do something like mandate cat containment, you bring in some really severe equity issues, and you put cat ownership out of the financial reach of people, and people who are renting.”
…
Here let me help you…
There are organisations that provide financial support for cat and dog care to low income people. There are even no cost vet services that work with people who live on the streets with their animal companion.
Food, vet bills, shit like that.
But do they build cat containment?
or
is it better/cheaper to simply keep the cat locked in the house?
Google it yourself. I’m not here to hold your hand.
kii said:
roughbarked said:
kii said:…
Here let me help you…
There are organisations that provide financial support for cat and dog care to low income people. There are even no cost vet services that work with people who live on the streets with their animal companion.
Food, vet bills, shit like that.
But do they build cat containment?
or
is it better/cheaper to simply keep the cat locked in the house?
Google it yourself. I’m not here to hold your hand.
Note: I didn’t ask for it.
SCIENCE said:
¿¿¿¡¿¿
“If you do something like mandate cat containment, you bring in some really severe equity issues, and you put cat ownership out of the financial reach of people, and people who are renting.”
I can’t see why keeping your cat indoors should cost more then letting it roam. Probably cost less in some cases as they are less likely to require vet treatment.
Boris said:
*fixed
SCIENCE said:¿¿¿¡¿¿
“If you do something like mandate cat containment, you bring in some really severe equity issues, and you put cat ownership out of the financial reach of people, and people who are renting.”
I can’t see why keeping your cat indoors should cost more than* letting it roam. Probably cost less in some cases as they are less likely to require vet treatment.
roughbarked said:
kii said:
roughbarked said:But do they build cat containment?
or
is it better/cheaper to simply keep the cat locked in the house?
Google it yourself. I’m not here to hold your hand.
Note: I didn’t ask for it.
The questions indicate that you did.
Boris said:
SCIENCE said:¿¿¿¡¿¿
“If you do something like mandate cat containment, you bring in some really severe equity issues, and you put cat ownership out of the financial reach of people, and people who are renting.”
I can’t see why keeping your cat indoors should cost more then letting it roam. Probably cost less in some cases as they are less likely to require vet treatment.
They won’t get into cat fights or be chased by dogs, get run over or pregnant. All reasons to keep them inside.
kii said:
roughbarked said:
kii said:Google it yourself. I’m not here to hold your hand.
Note: I didn’t ask for it.
The questions indicate that you did.
To you maybe.
but they weren’t directed at you.
roughbarked said:
Boris said:
SCIENCE said:¿¿¿¡¿¿
“If you do something like mandate cat containment, you bring in some really severe equity issues, and you put cat ownership out of the financial reach of people, and people who are renting.”
I can’t see why keeping your cat indoors should cost more then letting it roam. Probably cost less in some cases as they are less likely to require vet treatment.
They won’t get into cat fights or be chased by dogs, get run over or pregnant. All reasons to keep them inside.
unfortunately people think it is the cat’s right to roam cos it is natural.
roughbarked said:
kii said:
roughbarked said:Note: I didn’t ask for it.
The questions indicate that you did.
To you maybe.
but they weren’t directed at you.
You truly are an idiot.
kii said:
roughbarked said:
kii said:The questions indicate that you did.
To you maybe.
but they weren’t directed at you.
You truly are an idiot.
Boris said:
roughbarked said:
Boris said:I can’t see why keeping your cat indoors should cost more then letting it roam. Probably cost less in some cases as they are less likely to require vet treatment.
They won’t get into cat fights or be chased by dogs, get run over or pregnant. All reasons to keep them inside.
unfortunately people think it is the cat’s right to roam cos it is natural.
More easily evaded by not having a cat as an occasional house guest.
Boris said:
roughbarked said:
Boris said:I can’t see why keeping your cat indoors should cost more then letting it roam. Probably cost less in some cases as they are less likely to require vet treatment.
They won’t get into cat fights or be chased by dogs, get run over or pregnant. All reasons to keep them inside.
unfortunately people think it is the cat’s right to roam cos it is natural.
Yet the same people get upset when a dog chases their cat, which seems to, in general, be natural behaviour for dogs.
captain_spalding said:
Boris said:
roughbarked said:They won’t get into cat fights or be chased by dogs, get run over or pregnant. All reasons to keep them inside.
unfortunately people think it is the cat’s right to roam cos it is natural.
Yet the same people get upset when a dog chases their cat, which seems to, in general, be natural behaviour for dogs.
‘Round these parts (i.e. my house) it’s much more likely that the cat chases the dog. He always instigates pouncies, then chases Jellybean when she’s sick of his bullshit.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
Boris said:unfortunately people think it is the cat’s right to roam cos it is natural.
Yet the same people get upset when a dog chases their cat, which seems to, in general, be natural behaviour for dogs.
‘Round these parts (i.e. my house) it’s much more likely that the cat chases the dog. He always instigates pouncies, then chases Jellybean when she’s sick of his bullshit.
Our cat we had in England used to chase dogs. It was playing though. He was a very large Abyssinian. Bit like Horse just a tad friendly.
Boris said:
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:Yet the same people get upset when a dog chases their cat, which seems to, in general, be natural behaviour for dogs.
‘Round these parts (i.e. my house) it’s much more likely that the cat chases the dog. He always instigates pouncies, then chases Jellybean when she’s sick of his bullshit.
Our cat we had in England used to chase dogs. It was playing though. He was a very large Abyssinian. Bit like Horse just a tad friendly.
wasn’t not was.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
Boris said:unfortunately people think it is the cat’s right to roam cos it is natural.
Yet the same people get upset when a dog chases their cat, which seems to, in general, be natural behaviour for dogs.
‘Round these parts (i.e. my house) it’s much more likely that the cat chases the dog. He always instigates pouncies, then chases Jellybean when she’s sick of his bullshit.
It’s true, there are some cats who seem to have missed the meeting where the whole ‘dog chases cat’ principle was propounded, and don’t take no shit from no-one.
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:Yet the same people get upset when a dog chases their cat, which seems to, in general, be natural behaviour for dogs.
‘Round these parts (i.e. my house) it’s much more likely that the cat chases the dog. He always instigates pouncies, then chases Jellybean when she’s sick of his bullshit.
It’s true, there are some cats who seem to have missed the meeting where the whole ‘dog chases cat’ principle was propounded, and don’t take no shit from no-one.
Oh, the cat listens to me. I’m not one of those “oh my cat can do whatever they like” people. Cat sits on me and I need to get up? Cat gets thrown off. Cat wanders on the kitchen bench, cat gets sprayed with water. Cat does not rule my house. And neither does Jellybean, but she has a lot more leeway than the stupid cat.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:‘Round these parts (i.e. my house) it’s much more likely that the cat chases the dog. He always instigates pouncies, then chases Jellybean when she’s sick of his bullshit.
It’s true, there are some cats who seem to have missed the meeting where the whole ‘dog chases cat’ principle was propounded, and don’t take no shit from no-one.
Oh, the cat listens to me. I’m not one of those “oh my cat can do whatever they like” people. Cat sits on me and I need to get up? Cat gets thrown off. Cat wanders on the kitchen bench, cat gets sprayed with water. Cat does not rule my house. And neither does Jellybean, but she has a lot more leeway than the stupid cat.
Perhaps i should have said ‘…don’t take no shit from no mutts’.
Boris said:
Boris said:
Divine Angel said:‘Round these parts (i.e. my house) it’s much more likely that the cat chases the dog. He always instigates pouncies, then chases Jellybean when she’s sick of his bullshit.
Our cat we had in England used to chase dogs. It was playing though. He was a very large Abyssinian. Bit like Horse just a tad friendly.
wasn’t not was.
almost every house I have seen the cat rules over the dog…
Cats don’t understand the universe.
That’s why they always give that WTF look.
see how captured Australia is ¡ Even when you insult Indians you have to bow down to CHINA it’s ridiculous
Opposition Leader Sussan Ley has launched into damage control, holding round tables with the Indian and Chinese communities.
SCIENCE said:
see how captured Australia is ¡ Even when you insult Indians you have to bow down to CHINA it’s ridiculous
Opposition Leader Sussan Ley has launched into damage control, holding round tables with the Indian and Chinese communities.
well
The fact Senator Nampijinpa Price made the comments just days after anti-immigration rallies across the country — some specifically targeting Indian Australians — made it a “particularly bad week”, according to Mr Hawke.
totally an accidental coincidence
Mr Hawke has rejected that accusation, saying “I can’t understand how this is a gendered issue” and insists he had nothing more than a “1 or 2-minute” phone call with one of Senator Nampijinpa Price’s staffers, in which he offered to help clean up her comments.
how chivalrous what a knight in shining armour there you see of course it’s a sexgender issue
captain_spalding said:
Boris said:
roughbarked said:They won’t get into cat fights or be chased by dogs, get run over or pregnant. All reasons to keep them inside.
unfortunately people think it is the cat’s right to roam cos it is natural.
Yet the same people get upset when a dog chases their cat, which seems to, in general, be natural behaviour for dogs.
:)
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:Yet the same people get upset when a dog chases their cat, which seems to, in general, be natural behaviour for dogs.
‘Round these parts (i.e. my house) it’s much more likely that the cat chases the dog. He always instigates pouncies, then chases Jellybean when she’s sick of his bullshit.
It’s true, there are some cats who seem to have missed the meeting where the whole ‘dog chases cat’ principle was propounded, and don’t take no shit from no-one.
They don’t like humans much either but they grudgingly accept a dish of catfood.
arrogant but chicken not the other guy leader interferes in the politics of the other party
Brittany Higgins has been ordered to pay 80% of Linda Reynolds’s legal costs.
Senator Price has accepted an invitation to depart from the frontbenches.
dv said:
Senator Price has accepted an invitation to depart from the frontbenches.
Don’t let the door hit your arse on the way out! Or do, see if I care.
Cheesus, what a nutjob. I think he’s near Kingy’s area.
Spiny Norman said:
Cheesus, what a nutjob. I think he’s near Kingy’s area.
Yep, one of our locals. He’ll be the first one up against the wall when the revolution happens. The local facebook groups already now that he is a dipship nazi.
I did also see some fuckwit from the US who was very much happy with slavery.
He also will be the first one to be taken as a slave, just to see how much he likes it when he is being beaten senseless for not picking cotton properly.
Spiny Norman said:
Cheesus, what a nutjob. I think he’s near Kingy’s area.
I doubt he’ll win.
Kingy said:
Spiny Norman said:
Cheesus, what a nutjob. I think he’s near Kingy’s area.
Yep, one of our locals. He’ll be the first one up against the wall when the revolution happens. The local facebook groups already now that he is a dipship nazi.
I did also see some fuckwit from the US who was very much happy with slavery.
He also will be the first one to be taken as a slave, just to see how much he likes it when he is being beaten senseless for not picking cotton properly.
Seems fair.
Spiny Norman said:
Cheesus, what a nutjob. I think he’s near Kingy’s area.
I have a couple of friends running. Vote for them. Andrew Dickie and Jill Walsh. Known Jill for 45 years. Both sensible.
https://www.afr.com/companies/media-and-marketing/stokes-gets-13-5m-bill-for-robert-smith-s-failed-action-against-nine-20250909-p5mtr1
Speaking of people who need more diverse hobbies.
Boris said:
Spiny Norman said:
Cheesus, what a nutjob. I think he’s near Kingy’s area.
I have a couple of friends running. Vote for them. Andrew Dickie and Jill Walsh. Known Jill for 45 years. Both sensible.
Woody word, and, this word…is a tinny word…
Now Look here, I’ve punched blokes in the mouth for saying tinny words, now you stop it. I WONT HAVE IT.
Woody words….
Tau.Neutrino said:
Woody word, and, this word…is a tinny word…Now Look here, I’ve punched blokes in the mouth for saying tinny words, now you stop it. I WONT HAVE IT.
Woody words….
Now Look what you’ve done! You’ve made her cry again and you’ve upset the Major…Now there’s gunshots outside….
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1FXyGW9igB/
Tornado in NSW
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Woody word, and, this word…is a tinny word…Now Look here, I’ve punched blokes in the mouth for saying tinny words, now you stop it. I WONT HAVE IT.
Woody words….
Now Look what you’ve done! You’ve made her cry again and you’ve upset the Major…Now there’s gunshots outside….
—-
RUOK?
ABC News
Pete really is desperate to become ‘famous’ by turning this climate shindig into a three-ring circus that PT Barnum would envy.
we’re going to thank fuck that for now at least we have this situation locally so this is the big news
Albanese was also the victim of a fashion faux pas, arriving to a meeting of Pacific Island Forum leaders in a bright pink shirt that screamed “look at me” instead of the uniform dark blue leaders shirts. After sending what this column can only assume was several strongly worded text messages to staffers on the ground to locate the outfit he should’ve been wearing, the prime minister excused himself from the table, only to return a short time later in the right attire. Never one to pass up a playful shot at Albanese, New Zealand Prime Minister Christopher Luxon joked: “You’ve got to reiterate quite a lot to the Australians what they need to be doing and the rules sometimes.”
wow fk well surely there’s a countercrossclaim available in cases like this
The complaint was referred to the Supreme Court on Friday after the Brisbane Magistrates Court heard the prosecution had failed to disclose some documents. Mr Palmer is facing two counts of fraud and dishonestly using his position as a company director to funnel millions into his party’s 2013 election campaign, and in a separate matter, his company is charged with breaching company takeover laws in 2012. Mr Palmer alleged he and his family had suffered because of the delays. Magistrate Cameron McKenzie ruled in his favour but also expressed sympathy for the prosecution, which he said had been taken on “a number of sidesteps and tangents” with the proceedings. “Mr Palmer has unsuccessfully taken issue with nearly every matter in this court,” he said. “Those other proceedings would most likely have taken the prosecution’s focus away from their disclosure obligations.”
thank fk for Australia compared to say the USSA though we suppose it’s silly to compare to the worst
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-12/thomas-sewell-intimidating-police-officer-guilty/105767592
On the other hand,
Terry Irving, an Indigenous man, was initially charged as an accessory to the crime for loaning his car to the person responsible for robbing an ANZ branch in Cairns on March 19, 1993. But while he was in custody he was charged with the robbery itself, accused of stealing more $6,000. His conviction was overturned in 1997 after he had spent 1,671 days in prison. The $130,000 compensation awarded to Mr Irving by the Supreme Court of Queensland was only in relation to the accessory charge, which was found to be a malicious prosecution by the Court of Appeal in 2021. Justice Brown, who presided over the matter, awarded Mr Irving $65,000 in general damages for deprivation of liberty, $45,000 in aggravated damages for humiliation and misuse of power, and $20,000 in exemplary damages to punish the abuse of office. Interest of two per cent per annum on the payments will apply from September 2011, which is when Justice Brown ruled the litigation started in earnest.
perhaps there are still far improvements to go.
Oh, go eat an onion, Tony.
dv said:
Useful idiots that have outlived their usefulness.
Divine Angel said:
Oh, go eat an onion, Tony.
Sticking his nose in again?
dv said:
Is the Mad Monk still allowed to be called “Honorable”?
Woodie said:
dv said:
Is the Mad Monk still allowed to be called “Honorable”?
Not by me.
I suggested that he wasn’t very helpful as Prime Minister during black summer(by fucking off to Hawaii), and I was summarily demoted.
I am not allowed to say any more.
https://www.change.org/p/deport-new-zealand-born-immigrant-thomas-sewell?
Kingy said:
dv said:
Useful idiots that have outlived their usefulness.
Meh.
I’m a rejectioniost and I reject both neo-classical and neo-liberal economics; and I also reject American evangelical fundamentalism; macho culture .. and a whole pile of other things.
it is no wonder I never heard of him, nor this Kirk fellow.
Woodie said:
dv said:
Is the Mad Monk still allowed to be called “Honorable”?
I thought he became Howard’s butler.
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
dv said:
Useful idiots that have outlived their usefulness.
Meh.
I’m a rejectioniost and I reject both neo-classical and neo-liberal economics; and I also reject American evangelical fundamentalism; macho culture .. and a whole pile of other things.
it is no wonder I never heard of him, nor this Kirk fellow.
zing
dv said:
Fk Abbott.
Divine Angel said:
Oh, go eat an onion, Tony.
Or fifty.
the irony
Senator Ralph Babet, the massive f’wit, just posted this.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Oh, go eat an onion, Tony.
Kingy said:
Useful idiots that have outlived their usefulness.
roughbarked said:
Sticking his nose in again?
Woodie said:
Is the Mad Monk still allowed to be called “Honorable”?
Kingy said:
Not by me.
I suggested that he wasn’t very helpful as Prime Minister during black summer(by fucking off to Hawaii), and I was summarily demoted.
I am not allowed to say any more.
party_pants said:
Meh.
I’m a rejectioniost and I reject both neo-classical and neo-liberal economics; and I also reject American evangelical fundamentalism; macho culture .. and a whole pile of other things.
it is no wonder I never heard of him, nor this Kirk fellow.
Tau.Neutrino said:
I thought he became Howard’s butler.
dv said:
zing
Michael V said:
Fk Abbott.
Michael V said:
Or fifty.
Tau.Neutrino said:
probably something we’ll never be clever enough to understand but seems like any ASIAN with a half ethnic sounding name is under suspicion for foreign interference andor spying for CHINA or West Taiwan or whatever it’s called these days or even if it’s India or Iran they deliberately hold back and say “we can’t say” until the friendly stuff is signed off and then they leak it quietly but then you have complete arseholes like this who were/is/are/be/wtfever actually in positions of deity damn high power getting into bed with fascists and it’s all right
cool
Spiny Norman said:
Senator Ralph Babet, the massive f’wit, just posted this.
IDGI
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
Senator Ralph Babet, the massive f’wit, just posted this.
IDGI
Boris said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
Senator Ralph Babet, the massive f’wit, just posted this.
IDGI
Well that’s even worse.
Thanks.
Boris said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
Senator Ralph Babet, the massive f’wit, just posted this.
IDGI
Yuck.
Kingy said:
Woodie said:
dv said:
Is the Mad Monk still allowed to be called “Honorable”?
Not by me.
I suggested that he wasn’t very helpful as Prime Minister during black summer(by fucking off to Hawaii), and I was summarily demoted.
I am not allowed to say any more.
Um…wrong prime minister.
kii said:
Kingy said:
Woodie said:
Is the Mad Monk still allowed to be called “Honorable”?
Not by me.
I suggested that he wasn’t very helpful as Prime Minister during black summer(by fucking off to Hawaii), and I was summarily demoted.
I am not allowed to say any more.
Um…wrong prime minister.
well anyway thank fuck that other prime minister never got in bed with fascists
wait we thought
Opposition Leader Brad Battin will announce his policy agenda at the Victorian Liberal state conference today aimed at reducing crime. At the top of his legislative agenda if elected as the next premier is ‘Jack’s Law’ — increased powers enabling police to scan people for weapons without a warrant.
it was Chairman Get On The Beers Dan who was turning The Place To Be into a CHINA police state
Yousr ABC now rejoicing at the gradual accumulation of fascist sentiment.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-13/what-next-for-far-right-john-macgowan/105735032
I see a lot of disrespect for flags at these rallies. If you are going to go the full “love my country” you should know and observe the rules around flags. Claiming to be traditionalists means you need to know the traditions.
Heavy police presence monitors thousands of protesters across Australia
buffy said:
I see a lot of disrespect for flags at these rallies. If you are going to go the full “love my country” you should know and observe the rules around flags. Claiming to be traditionalists means you need to know the traditions.Heavy police presence monitors thousands of protesters across Australia
tradition is one of the worst excuses for anything
buffy said:
I see a lot of disrespect for flags at these rallies. If you are going to go the full “love my country” you should know and observe the rules around flags. Claiming to be traditionalists means you need to know the traditions.Heavy police presence monitors thousands of protesters across Australia
I do wonder about those people who rabbit on about ‘respecting the flag’ and who then wrap themselves in it as if it were some sort of beach towel.
I don’t know what that’s supposed to do for them. Confer some sort of patriotic super-power on them? Make them ’101% Aussie’? Form some sort of shield that’s impenetrable to ‘anti-patriotic sentiments’?
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
I see a lot of disrespect for flags at these rallies. If you are going to go the full “love my country” you should know and observe the rules around flags. Claiming to be traditionalists means you need to know the traditions.Heavy police presence monitors thousands of protesters across Australia
I do wonder about those people who rabbit on about ‘respecting the flag’ and who then wrap themselves in it as if it were some sort of beach towel.
I don’t know what that’s supposed to do for them. Confer some sort of patriotic super-power on them? Make them ’101% Aussie’? Form some sort of shield that’s impenetrable to ‘anti-patriotic sentiments’?
“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel”
ruby said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
I see a lot of disrespect for flags at these rallies. If you are going to go the full “love my country” you should know and observe the rules around flags. Claiming to be traditionalists means you need to know the traditions.Heavy police presence monitors thousands of protesters across Australia
I do wonder about those people who rabbit on about ‘respecting the flag’ and who then wrap themselves in it as if it were some sort of beach towel.
I don’t know what that’s supposed to do for them. Confer some sort of patriotic super-power on them? Make them ’101% Aussie’? Form some sort of shield that’s impenetrable to ‘anti-patriotic sentiments’?
“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel”
These days, the scoundrels are an impatient bunch, and patriotism is their first refuge.
Neophyte said:
ruby said:
captain_spalding said:I do wonder about those people who rabbit on about ‘respecting the flag’ and who then wrap themselves in it as if it were some sort of beach towel.
I don’t know what that’s supposed to do for them. Confer some sort of patriotic super-power on them? Make them ’101% Aussie’? Form some sort of shield that’s impenetrable to ‘anti-patriotic sentiments’?
“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel”
These days, the scoundrels are an impatient bunch, and patriotism is their first refuge.
Yep.
The captain is onto something with the idea of people thinking of patriotism as an impenetrable shield. Like Christians who think that religiosity confers an impenetrable shield of goodness.
derisive snort
There was a by-election in Kiama today, following the expulsion of Gareth Ward from NSW parliament due to his conviction on sexual offences.
It appears the ALP will pick up the seat with a 10% swing. This will be the first time Labor has had this seat since 2011. The new member for Kiama will be Katelin McInerney.
Ah well
Climate Change Minister Chris Bowen says heat deaths in Sydney will double even if global warming is limited to the best-case scenario of 1.5C.
better set some easy and achievable conservative emissions targets then.
ABC News:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
:)
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
:)
Will he be missed? I doubt it.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
I first read that as ‘Hastie flags demolition’…..
seems apt
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-16/sapol-investigating-post-celebrating-charlie-kirk-death/105777946
I don’t agree with what he said but I’ll defend his right to say it.
Peak Warming Man said:
I don’t agree with what he said but I’ll defend his right to say it.
defend to the ¿ death
should this be in the happy news thread
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-16/alan-jones-new-indecent-assault-charges/105781256
Australians are too dependent on welfare and universal government subsidies, Sussan Ley will warn in her first major economic speech as opposition leader. Ms Ley will also signal a preference for “targeted” welfare and spending programs rather than “universal” programs. The Liberal leader will offer a veiled critique of the approach of both major parties at the last election, saying governments “cannot, and should not, shield everyone from every cost of living pressure by writing a cheque”.
well that’s where you’re rightly wrong slash wrongly right, dumbfuck
governments should be improving the welfare and wellbeing of the country as a whole that is everyone through well considered appropriate intelligent policy decisions rather than bullshit grifts beholden to privileged lobby groups and fascists
SCIENCE said:
Australians are too dependent on welfare and universal government subsidies, Sussan Ley will warn in her first major economic speech as opposition leader. Ms Ley will also signal a preference for “targeted” welfare and spending programs rather than “universal” programs. The Liberal leader will offer a veiled critique of the approach of both major parties at the last election, saying governments “cannot, and should not, shield everyone from every cost of living pressure by writing a cheque”.
well that’s where you’re rightly wrong slash wrongly right, dumbfuck
governments should be improving the welfare and wellbeing of the country as a whole that is everyone through well considered appropriate intelligent policy decisions rather than bullshit grifts beholden to privileged lobby groups and fascists
Can’t argue against that.
SCIENCE said:
Australians are too dependent on welfare and universal government subsidies, Sussan Ley will warn in her first major economic speech as opposition leader. Ms Ley will also signal a preference for “targeted” welfare and spending programs rather than “universal” programs. The Liberal leader will offer a veiled critique of the approach of both major parties at the last election, saying governments “cannot, and should not, shield everyone from every cost of living pressure by writing a cheque”.
well that’s where you’re rightly wrong slash wrongly right, dumbfuck
governments should be improving the welfare and wellbeing of the country as a whole that is everyone through well considered appropriate intelligent policy decisions rather than bullshit grifts beholden to privileged lobby groups and fascists
Hear hear.
SCIENCE said:
Australians are too dependent on welfare and universal government subsidies, Sussan Ley will warn in her first major economic speech as opposition leader. Ms Ley will also signal a preference for “targeted” welfare and spending programs rather than “universal” programs. The Liberal leader will offer a veiled critique of the approach of both major parties at the last election, saying governments “cannot, and should not, shield everyone from every cost of living pressure by writing a cheque”.
well that’s where you’re rightly wrong slash wrongly right, dumbfuck
governments should be improving the welfare and wellbeing of the country as a whole that is everyone through well considered appropriate intelligent policy decisions rather than bullshit grifts beholden to privileged lobby groups and fascists
wants to abandon the communist egalitarian ways, get people all ambitious again, you know it’s not working like it is, time to eliminate the last vestiges of egalitarianism before the communists see the weakness
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Australians are too dependent on welfare and universal government subsidies, Sussan Ley will warn in her first major economic speech as opposition leader. Ms Ley will also signal a preference for “targeted” welfare and spending programs rather than “universal” programs. The Liberal leader will offer a veiled critique of the approach of both major parties at the last election, saying governments “cannot, and should not, shield everyone from every cost of living pressure by writing a cheque”.
well that’s where you’re rightly wrong slash wrongly right, dumbfuck
governments should be improving the welfare and wellbeing of the country as a whole that is everyone through well considered appropriate intelligent policy decisions rather than bullshit grifts beholden to privileged lobby groups and fascists
Can’t argue against that.
Hear hear.
speaking of hear hear we just heard on the vhf receiver that Federal Communism accused Corruption of being led by crackpots and cranks
well yes
100%
I haven’t been phone polled since the 1990s. Borbidge was Premier and the question was about drug use and attitudes, so I straight up lied about use because I thought it was possible this was an operation to compile lists of suspects etc. Possibly a bit paranoid.
If I were polled now about Ley I’d probably lie again and give her very favourable approval, because I want to encourage the Libs to move back to the centre and she is in a battle against dinosaurs.
dv said:
Borbidge was Premier and the question was about drug use and attitudes, so I straight up lied about use because I thought it was possible this was an operation to compile lists of suspects etc. Possibly a bit paranoid.
for values of “paranoid” equal ¿ to “well considered and cautious”
Sussan Ley wants welfare entitlements to be more targeted and means-tested to ensure government payments are received by the genuinely needy. I’m glad to hear the Coalition finally want to abolish negative gearing on established homes, capital gains discounts and generous super tax breaks for those who are already well off.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Sussan Ley wants welfare entitlements to be more targeted and means-tested to ensure government payments are received by the genuinely needy. I’m glad to hear the Coalition finally want to abolish negative gearing on established homes, capital gains discounts and generous super tax breaks for those who are already well off.
That wasn’t what she meant, and you know it.
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Sussan Ley wants welfare entitlements to be more targeted and means-tested to ensure government payments are received by the genuinely needy. I’m glad to hear the Coalition finally want to abolish negative gearing on established homes, capital gains discounts and generous super tax breaks for those who are already well off.
That wasn’t what she meant, and you know it.
well it should be
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Sussan Ley wants welfare entitlements to be more targeted and means-tested to ensure government payments are received by the genuinely needy. I’m glad to hear the Coalition finally want to abolish negative gearing on established homes, capital gains discounts and generous super tax breaks for those who are already well off.
That wasn’t what she meant, and you know it.
well it should be
:)
speaking of ensuring support goes to the genuinely needy
Australia faces a potential escalation in cases of modern slavery, the NSW anti-slavery commissioner warns, as sectors such as aged care become increasingly reliant on temporary migrant workers.
if the element of coercion must be absent then surely the only way to not have slavery in a modern utopian ideal capitalist context is to have a universal basic sufficient for living income
wait
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
So there’s talk of teachers going on strike in the near future. Fair call. I’m non-teaching staff, which I get, but today I spent 10 minutes explaining to a yr 5 student why 1 × 10 is not 100. I grabbed
some blocks, counted out ten, and when I asked, “if I have one lot of ten blocks, how many do I have?” The kid answered, “um, eleven?”No wonder teachers want more pay and better conditions. It’s an uphill battle with some kids.
That’s frightening.
don’t you worry about that
just wait until they get to vote
[0.62, 0.70]
My sister works (worked?) for Yurika.
https://reneweconomy.com.au/queensland-to-dissolve-yurika-tech-division-staff-told-as-unions-attack-lnp-on-renewable-plans/
More than 500 employees at the Queensland government owned Yurika have been told the electricity and EV services company is to be “dissolved”, and folded back into its parent company in what unions describe as the latest attack on the renewables industry in the sunshine state.
Yurika was created as a standalone unit in 2016, and has become a major EPC contractor for renewables and storage projects – including most recently the Broadsound solar and battery project and the Swanbank battery, and it has managed the rollout of EV fast chargers across the state.
It has also worked on an extensive portfolio of projects that include the MacIntyre, Clarke Creek and Wambo wind farms in Queensland, the Wellington North solar farm in NSW, the Stanwell and Tarong batteries in Queensland, and other projects in NSW and Victoria.
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
[0.62, 0.70]
My sister works (worked?) for Yurika.
More than 500 employees at the Queensland government owned Yurika have been told the electricity and EV services company is to be “dissolved”, and folded back into its parent company in what unions describe as the latest attack on the renewables industry in the sunshine state.
Yurika was created as a standalone unit in 2016, and has become a major EPC contractor for renewables and storage projects – including most recently the Broadsound solar and battery project and the Swanbank battery, and it has managed the rollout of EV fast chargers across the state.
It has also worked on an extensive portfolio of projects that include the MacIntyre, Clarke Creek and Wambo wind farms in Queensland, the Wellington North solar farm in NSW, the Stanwell and Tarong batteries in Queensland, and other projects in NSW and Victoria.
wait are QLD Corruption Coalition trying to sabotage the federal 2035 targets already
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
[0.62, 0.70]
My sister works (worked?) for Yurika.
More than 500 employees at the Queensland government owned Yurika have been told the electricity and EV services company is to be “dissolved”, and folded back into its parent company in what unions describe as the latest attack on the renewables industry in the sunshine state.
Yurika was created as a standalone unit in 2016, and has become a major EPC contractor for renewables and storage projects – including most recently the Broadsound solar and battery project and the Swanbank battery, and it has managed the rollout of EV fast chargers across the state.
It has also worked on an extensive portfolio of projects that include the MacIntyre, Clarke Creek and Wambo wind farms in Queensland, the Wellington North solar farm in NSW, the Stanwell and Tarong batteries in Queensland, and other projects in NSW and Victoria.
wait are QLD Corruption Coalition trying to sabotage the federal 2035 targets already
Well. Their renewables “plan” is due to be released publicly mid next month. My sister, working in the sector, has seen the drafts and laughed at it.
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:Divine Angel said:
My sister works (worked?) for Yurika.
More than 500 employees at the Queensland government owned Yurika have been told the electricity and EV services company is to be “dissolved”, and folded back into its parent company in what unions describe as the latest attack on the renewables industry in the sunshine state.
Yurika was created as a standalone unit in 2016, and has become a major EPC contractor for renewables and storage projects – including most recently the Broadsound solar and battery project and the Swanbank battery, and it has managed the rollout of EV fast chargers across the state.
It has also worked on an extensive portfolio of projects that include the MacIntyre, Clarke Creek and Wambo wind farms in Queensland, the Wellington North solar farm in NSW, the Stanwell and Tarong batteries in Queensland, and other projects in NSW and Victoria.
wait are QLD Corruption Coalition trying to sabotage the federal 2035 targets already
Well. Their renewables “plan” is due to be released publicly mid next month. My sister, working in the sector, has seen the drafts and laughed at it.
“Their renewables plan…”
Which govt’s plan? Qld Coalition, or Federal Labor?
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:Divine Angel said:
My sister works (worked?) for Yurika.
More than 500 employees at the Queensland government owned Yurika have been told the electricity and EV services company is to be “dissolved”, and folded back into its parent company in what unions describe as the latest attack on the renewables industry in the sunshine state.
Yurika was created as a standalone unit in 2016, and has become a major EPC contractor for renewables and storage projects – including most recently the Broadsound solar and battery project and the Swanbank battery, and it has managed the rollout of EV fast chargers across the state.
It has also worked on an extensive portfolio of projects that include the MacIntyre, Clarke Creek and Wambo wind farms in Queensland, the Wellington North solar farm in NSW, the Stanwell and Tarong batteries in Queensland, and other projects in NSW and Victoria.
wait are QLD Corruption Coalition trying to sabotage the federal 2035 targets already
Well. Their renewables “plan” is due to be released publicly mid next month. My sister, working in the sector, has seen the drafts and laughed at it.
“Their renewables plan…”
Which govt’s plan? Qld Coalition, or Federal Labor?
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:wait are QLD Corruption Coalition trying to sabotage the federal 2035 targets already
Well. Their renewables “plan” is due to be released publicly mid next month. My sister, working in the sector, has seen the drafts and laughed at it.
“Their renewables plan…”
Which govt’s plan? Qld Coalition, or Federal Labor?
Qld LNP
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:Well. Their renewables “plan” is due to be released publicly mid next month. My sister, working in the sector, has seen the drafts and laughed at it.
“Their renewables plan…”
Which govt’s plan? Qld Coalition, or Federal Labor?
Qld LNP
Oh. Well, yeah, that’s bound to be comedy gold. The really entertaining bits will be the parts where they try to fashion some sort of justification for continuing reliance on fossil fuels, without any mention of donations or bribes.
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:“Their renewables plan…”
Which govt’s plan? Qld Coalition, or Federal Labor?
Qld LNP
Oh. Well, yeah, that’s bound to be comedy gold. The really entertaining bits will be the parts where they try to fashion some sort of justification for continuing reliance on fossil fuels, without any mention of donations or bribes.
Well the Fed Gov have released their targets for 2035, which are outrageously low and ridiculously high and unachievable.
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:Qld LNP
Oh. Well, yeah, that’s bound to be comedy gold. The really entertaining bits will be the parts where they try to fashion some sort of justification for continuing reliance on fossil fuels, without any mention of donations or bribes.
Well the Fed Gov have released their targets for 2035, which are outrageously low and ridiculously high and unachievable.
I think they are ambitious. They’ll want their skates on.
One of the biggest issues with Qld is the royalties they get from coal, which funds all kinds of programs such as our 50 cent public transport fares.
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:Qld LNP
Oh. Well, yeah, that’s bound to be comedy gold. The really entertaining bits will be the parts where they try to fashion some sort of justification for continuing reliance on fossil fuels, without any mention of donations or bribes.
Well the Fed Gov have released their targets for 2035, which are outrageously low and ridiculously high and unachievable.
Well, if you aim for the stars, you might be able to hit London.
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Oh. Well, yeah, that’s bound to be comedy gold. The really entertaining bits will be the parts where they try to fashion some sort of justification for continuing reliance on fossil fuels, without any mention of donations or bribes.
Well the Fed Gov have released their targets for 2035, which are outrageously low and ridiculously high and unachievable.
Well, if you aim for the stars, you might be able to hit London.
so this is about Paris V2 then
Divine Angel said:
One of the biggest issues with Qld is the royalties they get from coal, which funds all kinds of programs such as our 50 cent public transport fares.
Well, once these clean air targets are reached, they could export nice clean fresh air, with huge royalties on that to pay for stuff. Up there for thinkin’, hey what but.😁
ABC News:
Julie Bishop would never behave like that towards anyone in the academic world.
Now, if they were asbesteosis-afflicted workers, seeking compensation for their life-shortening and agonising work-related ailments…
Senate inquiry calls for cap to vice chancellor pay as chair lashes ‘rotten culture’ hurting university staff and students
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-19/senate-inquiry-interim-report-university-governance/105795694
…
Diddly will not be happy.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Senate inquiry calls for cap to vice chancellor pay as chair lashes ‘rotten culture’ hurting university staff and students
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-19/senate-inquiry-interim-report-university-governance/105795694
…
Diddly will not be happy.
He Will Not Be Happy But He Is Perfect
Given China is not buying soy from the US any more, I was interested to see whether this could represent an opportunity for Australian farmers. Turns out Australia has no significant soy industry at all. Like Brazil produces 100 million tonnes of soy per year, Australia produces 50000 tonnes.
I was also surprised at just how much soy is produced per year. 350 million tonnes. China alone consumed 120 million tonnes. That’s like 300 grams per capita every day.
dv said:
Given China is not buying soy from the US any more, I was interested to see whether this could represent an opportunity for Australian farmers. Turns out Australia has no significant soy industry at all. Like Brazil produces 100 million tonnes of soy per year, Australia produces 50000 tonnes.
I was also surprised at just how much soy is produced per year. 350 million tonnes. China alone consumed 120 million tonnes. That’s like 300 grams per capita every day.
now do cow
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Given China is not buying soy from the US any more, I was interested to see whether this could represent an opportunity for Australian farmers. Turns out Australia has no significant soy industry at all. Like Brazil produces 100 million tonnes of soy per year, Australia produces 50000 tonnes.
I was also surprised at just how much soy is produced per year. 350 million tonnes. China alone consumed 120 million tonnes. That’s like 300 grams per capita every day.
now do cow
About 70 million tonnes of beef globally.
The soy production dwarfs the total production of all kinds of meat
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Given China is not buying soy from the US any more, I was interested to see whether this could represent an opportunity for Australian farmers. Turns out Australia has no significant soy industry at all. Like Brazil produces 100 million tonnes of soy per year, Australia produces 50000 tonnes.
I was also surprised at just how much soy is produced per year. 350 million tonnes. China alone consumed 120 million tonnes. That’s like 300 grams per capita every day.
now do cow
About 70 million tonnes of beef globally.
The soy production dwarfs the total production of all kinds of meat
¡ so CHINA are saving the world yet again this time with their environmentally responsible protein sourcing !
we also note that cows like soy do produce milk
and like soy only part of the cow production chain needs to be sacrificed to produce that milk
and annual global cow milk production is like 1 Pg which seems to be much more than equivalent from soy
dv said:
SCIENCE said:dv said:
Given China is not buying soy from the US any more, I was interested to see whether this could represent an opportunity for Australian farmers. Turns out Australia has no significant soy industry at all. Like Brazil produces 100 million tonnes of soy per year, Australia produces 50000 tonnes.
I was also surprised at just how much soy is produced per year. 350 million tonnes. China alone consumed 120 million tonnes. That’s like 300 grams per capita every day.
now do cow
About 70 million tonnes of beef globally.
The soy production dwarfs the total production of all kinds of meat
shakes fist at Buddhists
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:now do cow
About 70 million tonnes of beef globally.
The soy production dwarfs the total production of all kinds of meat
shakes fist at Buddhists
Funnily enough, I don’t think I’ve ever bought or cooked soy beans themselves, just soy bean products.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:now do cow
About 70 million tonnes of beef globally.
The soy production dwarfs the total production of all kinds of meat
shakes fist at Buddhists
Moreover, TIL 10% of the Earth’s arable land is used for growing soy. I had no idea it was such a big deal.
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:About 70 million tonnes of beef globally.
The soy production dwarfs the total production of all kinds of meat
shakes fist at Buddhists
Funnily enough, I don’t think I’ve ever bought or cooked soy beans themselves, just soy bean products.
Same, but I would suppose that is typical
Last week in Parliament we passed laws that abolished the “good character” defence for people accused of rape or sexual assault.
Getting rid of the lineup of supporters those perpetrators would bring to court to establish that they were actually fine upstanding citizens normally – good blokes.
There is no universe where someone who commits rape or sexual assault is a good bloke.
Di Farmer MP
JudgeMental said:
Last week in Parliament we passed laws that abolished the “good character” defence for people accused of rape or sexual assault.
Getting rid of the lineup of supporters those perpetrators would bring to court to establish that they were actually fine upstanding citizens normally – good blokes.
There is no universe where someone who commits rape or sexual assault is a good bloke.
Di Farmer MP
Can People Be Complex
Ley writes to Republicans vowing to revoke Palestine recognition ahead of Albanese’s UN address
I suspect she will find she is on the wrong side of history on this one.
buffy said:
Ley writes to Republicans vowing to revoke Palestine recognition ahead of Albanese’s UN address
I suspect she will find she is on the wrong side of history on this one.
Seems it’s the morning for the communists to be pushing back on bullshit.
Climate Change Minister Chris Bowen has delivered a speech to the UN Climate Week in New York, hitting out at people who say acting on climate change is “too hard”. Bowen says excuses not to take action on climate change are an “easy message” for climate deniers.
fuck lets be honest we find it easier to top up the car with a plug into the solar inverter than to fill it up with rock oil at a steep price from a multinational oligopoly but what would we know
Assistant Foreign Minister Matt Thistlethwaite is pushing back on the idea Anthony Albanese must set up a meeting with the US president while in New York. The Labor MP has instead argued that maybe being left off Donald Trump’s list isn’t such a bad thing.
correct
as opposed to the opposition
Liberal senator Andrew Bragg says it’s “embarrassing” the prime minister hasn’t landed a meeting with US President Donald Trump during his trip to New York. “I think it’s very embarrassing,” Bragg told Channel Nine. “Australia has been treated like a piece of dirt by this administration.”
no you dumb fuck, it’s very vindicating, in fact, it’s a sign of strength to not have to grovel up to some arsehole that tries to shit on you
No Foreign Interference Here
alleged, apparently Israel called Sus Ley line first
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-30/ato-review-process-paul-keating-company-tax-four-corners/105589172
This arsehole destroyed my family and any possibility of an inheritance.
But now his tax bill is somehow voided?
https://www.accc.gov.au/about-us/news/speeches/australian-agribusiness-law-sensible-regulation-or-red-tape-gone-mad-address
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-24/antoinette-lattouf-costs-decision-in-abc-unlawful-termination/105810052
ABC ordered to pay $150,000 fine for unlawfully sacking journalist and presenter Antoinette Lattouf
The ABC has been ordered to pay a fine of $150,000 to journalist and presenter Antoinette Lattouf for her unlawful sacking.
A Federal Court judge on Wednesday imposed the penalty for its breach of the Fair Work Act by removing her from the air during a five-day radio presenting contact on Sydney radio in December 2023 for reasons including her political opinions.
It brings the amount the national broadcaster has been ordered to pay Ms Lattouf to $220,000 after she was previously awarded $70,000 in compensation for non-economic loss.
The court heard Ms Lattouf was taken off the air after she shared a Human Rights Watch post about starvation being used as a tool of war in Gaza to her personal Instagram account.
oh c’m‘on just put a shovel in the display case already
Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke has rebuked Liberal leadership aspirant Andrew Hastie’s claim that Australians were becoming “strangers” in their own country due to immigration, saying the country must feel “strange” to an outdated Liberal Party.
“Modern Australia must be strange to a Liberal Party that stubbornly refuses to enter the 21st century,” Mr Burke said.
well
yes
Albo’s selfie so it goes here. Trump looks like a wax figure.
Divine Angel said:
Albo’s selfie so it goes here. Trump looks like a wax figure.
I looked up Albanese’s height and he’s about 1.8 metres. Shitler doesn’t seem to be a lot taller than him at all. Maybe 20 mm or so ?
Divine Angel said:
Albo’s selfie so it goes here. Trump looks like a wax figure.
And AA looks like a sycophant…
Divine Angel said:
Albo’s selfie so it goes here. Trump looks like a wax figure.
Did they get to have a chat and a cuppa tea?
Divine Angel said:
Albo’s selfie so it goes here. Trump looks like a wax figure.
Looks like a partly melted wax figure of Richie Benaud
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Albo’s selfie so it goes here. Trump looks like a wax figure.
Looks like a partly melted wax figure of Richie Benaud
With some extra white lolly teeth in his mouth
ruby said:
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Albo’s selfie so it goes here. Trump looks like a wax figure.
Looks like a partly melted wax figure of Richie Benaud
With some extra white lolly teeth in his mouth
Nah. They’re Lego teeth.
Divine Angel said:
Albo’s selfie so it goes here. Trump looks like a wax figure.
ew
ew
LOL
Former Liberal senator Amanda Vanstone has warned Andrew Hastie to tone down his rhetoric.
https://theshot.net.au/uncategorized/youre-being-played-your-part-in-the-culture-wars
Ronni Salt – The Shot.
LOL, the Beetroot is running a “survey”. Piss poor questions.
https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/australiasurvey
JudgeMental said:
LOL, the Beetroot is running a “survey”. Piss poor questions.https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/australiasurvey
Divine Angel said:
JudgeMental said:
LOL, the Beetroot is running a “survey”. Piss poor questions.https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/australiasurvey
That’s not how you do survey questions. There is no statement to agree or disagree with. The statement should begin “EMF is ….” This is very sloppy survey question writing.
JudgeMental said:
LOL, the Beetroot is running a “survey”. Piss poor questions.https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/australiasurvey
Well the CO2 one was a pretty stupid question for a political survey. Most of the others were clear enough and provided a “strongly disagree” option, so I don’t have a great problem with that..
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
JudgeMental said:
LOL, the Beetroot is running a “survey”. Piss poor questions.https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/australiasurvey
That’s not how you do survey questions. There is no statement to agree or disagree with. The statement should begin “EMF is ….” This is very sloppy survey question writing.
shrug
Clear enough that “strongly disagree” indicates that you don’t think 5G is doing that stuff.
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
That’s not how you do survey questions. There is no statement to agree or disagree with. The statement should begin “EMF is ….” This is very sloppy survey question writing.
shrug
Clear enough that “strongly disagree” indicates that you don’t think 5G is doing that stuff.
is this another one of those referendums where ticking boxes is yes but crosses is discarded
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:That’s not how you do survey questions. There is no statement to agree or disagree with. The statement should begin “EMF is ….” This is very sloppy survey question writing.
shrug
Clear enough that “strongly disagree” indicates that you don’t think 5G is doing that stuff.
is this another one of those referendums where ticking boxes is yes but crosses is discarded
Strongly disagree
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
LOL, the Beetroot is running a “survey”. Piss poor questions.https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/australiasurvey
Well the CO2 one was a pretty stupid question for a political survey. Most of the others were clear enough and provided a “strongly disagree” option, so I don’t have a great problem with that..
Didn’t do the survey. I read this and wasn’t impressed. https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/about
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
LOL, the Beetroot is running a “survey”. Piss poor questions.https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/australiasurvey
Well the CO2 one was a pretty stupid question for a political survey. Most of the others were clear enough and provided a “strongly disagree” option, so I don’t have a great problem with that..
Didn’t do the survey. I read this and wasn’t impressed. https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/about
“australia needs leaders who will not bend the knee to political activists or the vocal minority.”
Hmm, he seems to have a bit of a problem there.
Also what’s with this writing in all lower case and pretending it’s all upper case thing?
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well the CO2 one was a pretty stupid question for a political survey. Most of the others were clear enough and provided a “strongly disagree” option, so I don’t have a great problem with that..
Didn’t do the survey. I read this and wasn’t impressed. https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/about
“australia needs leaders who will not bend the knee to political activists or the vocal minority.”
Hmm, he seems to have a bit of a problem there.
Also what’s with this writing in all lower case and pretending it’s all upper case thing?
It didn’t cause me to like him or his spiel.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well the CO2 one was a pretty stupid question for a political survey. Most of the others were clear enough and provided a “strongly disagree” option, so I don’t have a great problem with that..
Didn’t do the survey. I read this and wasn’t impressed. https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/about
“australia needs leaders who will not bend the knee to political activists or the vocal minority.”
Hmm, he seems to have a bit of a problem there.
Also what’s with this writing in all lower case and pretending it’s all upper case thing?
https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/articles/australiasurvey-results250902
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:Didn’t do the survey. I read this and wasn’t impressed. https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/about
“australia needs leaders who will not bend the knee to political activists or the vocal minority.”
Hmm, he seems to have a bit of a problem there.
Also what’s with this writing in all lower case and pretending it’s all upper case thing?
https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/articles/australiasurvey-results250902
Oh shit.
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:“australia needs leaders who will not bend the knee to political activists or the vocal minority.”
Hmm, he seems to have a bit of a problem there.
Also what’s with this writing in all lower case and pretending it’s all upper case thing?
https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/articles/australiasurvey-results250902
Oh shit.
But I will assume that it is only the people that would vote for him that are completing his survey?
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/articles/australiasurvey-results250902
Oh shit.
But I will assume that it is only the people that would vote for him that are completing his survey?
yeah, it does appear to be a tad lopsided. maybe they need a question on political affiliation.
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:Didn’t do the survey. I read this and wasn’t impressed. https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/about
“australia needs leaders who will not bend the knee to political activists or the vocal minority.”
Hmm, he seems to have a bit of a problem there.
Also what’s with this writing in all lower case and pretending it’s all upper case thing?
https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/articles/australiasurvey-results250902
So almost everybody who bothered to take the “survey” had the same rightist opinions.
What a surprise.
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:“australia needs leaders who will not bend the knee to political activists or the vocal minority.”
Hmm, he seems to have a bit of a problem there.
Also what’s with this writing in all lower case and pretending it’s all upper case thing?
https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/articles/australiasurvey-results250902
So almost everybody who bothered to take the “survey” had the same rightist opinions.
What a surprise.
The study/survey is flawed.
1. Insufficient community consultation.
2. Flawed Environmental Impact Study.
They are the usual standard responses when you don’t like the outcome.
Woodie said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:https://www.commandingthenarrative.com/articles/australiasurvey-results250902
So almost everybody who bothered to take the “survey” had the same rightist opinions.
What a surprise.
The study/survey is flawed.
1. Insufficient community consultation.
2. Flawed Environmental Impact Study.They are the usual standard responses when you don’t like the outcome.
The questions are stilted.
The woman who dethroned Dutton in his electorate.
Divine Angel said:
The woman who dethroned Dutton in his electorate.
wait how can a leader lead from bed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-27/clive-palmer-foreign-investor-claim-dismissed/105823966
lol
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/29/us-private-prisons-operator-paid-790m-to-hold-100-people-on-nauru-in-quiet-expansion-of-contract
I don’t really understand why this is necessary.
see how fucking bad at economic management these Communists are
A strong jobs market has boosted the budget bottom line, wiping almost $18 billion off the deficit for the last financial year. The March pre-election federal budget predicted a deficit of $27.6 billion for the same period. The final budget outcome, due to be officially released later today, will put that figure at $10b.
they can’t even predict a budget deficit in the right ballpark the idiots
wait
SCIENCE said:
see how fucking bad at economic management these Communists are
A strong jobs market has boosted the budget bottom line, wiping almost $18 billion off the deficit for the last financial year. The March pre-election federal budget predicted a deficit of $27.6 billion for the same period. The final budget outcome, due to be officially released later today, will put that figure at $10b.
they can’t even predict a budget deficit in the right ballpark the idiots
wait
A deficit of that magnitude means the debt decreased “in real terms”.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-29/trump-climate-hoax-comments-and-fossil-fuel-lobby/105810870
JudgeMental said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-29/trump-climate-hoax-comments-and-fossil-fuel-lobby/105810870
full of blatant falsehoods,
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-29/trump-climate-hoax-comments-and-fossil-fuel-lobby/105810870
full of blatant falsehoods,
true
John Anderson (who’s he, you ask) tells me via linked in that DT is absolutely right on immigration and climate change.
I think he should STFU and enjoy his well-paid retirement.
The Rev Dodgson said:
John Anderson (who’s he, you ask) tells me via linked in that DT is absolutely right on immigration and climate change.I think he should STFU and enjoy his well-paid retirement.
He should go and live over. Stop trying to import American ideas and make us fit in with them. John, if you don’t like Australia, leave.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
John Anderson (who’s he, you ask) tells me via linked in that DT is absolutely right on immigration and climate change.
I think he should STFU and enjoy his well-paid retirement.
He should go and live over. Stop trying to import American ideas and make us fit in with them. John, if you don’t like Australia, leave.
^
https://johnmenadue.com/post/2025/09/will-hastie-face-his-manifest-destiny
look at this garbage think of how many jobs it will destroy it should never have made it off the design table
SCIENCE said:
look at this garbage think of how many jobs it will destroy it should never have made it off the design table
“…could be used to build homes’.
Governments at all levels are absolutley shit-scared of actually building any ‘homes’ these days, even with prevailing methods.
It’s unlikely that some new machinery will change their outlook.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
look at this garbage think of how many jobs it will destroy it should never have made it off the design table
“…could be used to build homes’.
Governments at all levels are absolutley shit-scared of actually building any ‘homes’ these days, even with prevailing methods.
It’s unlikely that some new machinery will change their outlook.
we mean why not have the Best of Old El Paso right, scrap those jobs AND fail to build any new housing, win win win
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/30/senior-liberal-party-women-maria-kovacic-warn-will-alienate-more-voters-abandons-net-zero
Methinks Albo didn’t just have the Labour faithful in mind when attacking those motivated by the politics of grievance and the easy answers of populists.
…
Critics are furious with PM’s speech. These UK leaders couldn’t be happier
By David Crowe
September 30, 2025 — 11.05am
Liverpool: His critics are adamant that Anthony Albanese has crossed a line by speaking to a Labour Party conference in the United Kingdom about how to defeat the right, but the prime minister’s friends in Britain are mightily glad he came across.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was a guest speaker at UK Labour’s annual conference held in Liverpool.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was a guest speaker at UK Labour’s annual conference held in Liverpool.Credit:Dominic Lorrimer
British cabinet ministers said Albanese’s address resonated with their party members because of its message about unity against conservative parties.
Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy called it a beautiful speech, Defence Secretary John Healey praised its powerful message and Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson said it was fantastic.
“What really resonated with me was the message that parties of the left win when they pull together, when they unite and when they take the fight to our opponents,” Phillipson said.
“That’s where we are at the moment. And I know it’s something that Australian Labor have been through and come out the other side.”
Phillipson, a candidate for the Labour deputy leadership in a ballot among party members over the weeks ahead, said the message hit home when Reform UK leader Nigel Farage was attacking the government from the right.
“What we have here in the UK with Reform and Farage is a party and an individual who actually doesn’t want to make life better for people, doesn’t want to fix the problems, whose only answer is to stoke grievance and sow division.”
But Reform is surging in the polls while the prime minister, Sir Keir Starmer, is deeply unpopular. The latest YouGov survey found he was disliked by 53 per cent of respondents and favoured by only 27 per cent.
Farage was disliked by 40 per cent and liked by 37 per cent, with other voters unsure. His party, however, has a big lead over Labour when respondents are asked how they would cast their votes.
The results this week found that Reform had 27 per cent of the vote, Labour was on 21 per cent, the Conservatives had 17 per cent, the Liberal Democrats 15 per cent, and the Greens 11 per cent. In the first-past-the-post system, parties cannot rely on preferences to leap ahead of rivals.
Albanese held private meetings at the Labour conference and spoke with Starmer, Lammy, Healey, Health Secretary Wes Streeting and Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper, as well as four other British ministers.
Opposition Leader Sussan Ley stepped up her attack on Albanese on Monday by declaring he should not have gone to the Labour conference to speak to a political gathering.
“He didn’t just cross a line, he flew to the other side of the world to give a partisan political speech on behalf of a political party in another country,” she said in Albury.
“That is totally unacceptable. We have no problem with the prime minister meeting the King, the prime minister of the UK and other UK leaders.
Opposition Leader Sussan Ley
“But giving a speech backing in a political party in another country – that really does cross the line.”
Scott Morrison spoke as prime minister at a gathering for US President Donald Trump at a Pratt Industries factory in Ohio in September 2019, but his brief address was not about the contest between the left and right in politics.
John Howard addressed conservatives as prime minister in 2002 when he joined then US president George W. Bush in Washington, DC, at a gathering of the International Democracy Union. He spoke about politics, but without a rallying cry against the left.
Albanese, in contrast, spoke of the shared values of Labor in Australia and Labour in the UK, and used this to exhort the British party members to stay unified. This was a show of support for Starmer when there is daily speculation about his leadership in the media.
Lammy told this masthead that the Australian prime minister’s speech “captured beautifully” the history of the labour movement across international borders.
“I thought it was one of the best articulations of the power of labour in office,” he said.
Healey, who was in Australia with Lammy to discuss the AUKUS alliance earlier this year, also praised the address.
“He was able to set out for our conference the historic commitment that our labour movements made to be not parties of protest, but parties of government,” he said. “And he spoke of the historic duty that our parties have, which is not just to protest on behalf of working people but to get into power to change things for working people.
“That was a very powerful message, and it is a strong theme at this conference here for us in the UK. That’s why he went down so well.”
Albanese did not name any political opponents in his address, but the Labour faithful needed no hints to know he was referring to Farage and Reform when he contrasted Labour with its opponents.
He praised Starmer, emphasised unity and highlighted the fact that Labour has more time until the next election than Labor does in Australia. The remarks appeared to be aimed at calming down MPs who seemed so rattled about their future.
“Delivering change is more difficult than demanding it,” Albanese said. “Working within the system is tougher than railing against it. And creating solutions requires more of us than shouting slogans.”
One audience member began applauding at those remarks, and her response was picked up around the conference hall.
After the speech, the audience member, Johanna Baxter, told this masthead it was a fantastic speech. Baxter is the Labour MP for Paisley and Renfrewshire South, a constituency west of Glasgow.
“It was about the difficult choices that labour governments face, and about the fact that we are better in government delivering for working people than we are shouting from the sidelines,” she said.
“I thought that was a fantastic point that he made.”
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/critics-are-furious-with-pm-s-speech-these-uk-leaders-couldn-t-be-happier-20250930-p5myua.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
Methinks Albo didn’t just have the Labour faithful in mind when attacking those motivated by the politics of grievance and the easy answers of populists.
…
Critics are furious with PM’s speech. These UK leaders couldn’t be happier
By David Crowe
September 30, 2025 — 11.05amLiverpool: His critics are adamant that Anthony Albanese has crossed a line by speaking to a Labour Party conference in the United Kingdom about how to defeat the right, but the prime minister’s friends in Britain are mightily glad he came across.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was a guest speaker at UK Labour’s annual conference held in Liverpool.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was a guest speaker at UK Labour’s annual conference held in Liverpool.Credit:Dominic LorrimerBritish cabinet ministers said Albanese’s address resonated with their party members because of its message about unity against conservative parties.
Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy called it a beautiful speech, Defence Secretary John Healey praised its powerful message and Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson said it was fantastic.
“What really resonated with me was the message that parties of the left win when they pull together, when they unite and when they take the fight to our opponents,” Phillipson said.
“That’s where we are at the moment. And I know it’s something that Australian Labor have been through and come out the other side.”
Phillipson, a candidate for the Labour deputy leadership in a ballot among party members over the weeks ahead, said the message hit home when Reform UK leader Nigel Farage was attacking the government from the right.
“What we have here in the UK with Reform and Farage is a party and an individual who actually doesn’t want to make life better for people, doesn’t want to fix the problems, whose only answer is to stoke grievance and sow division.”
But Reform is surging in the polls while the prime minister, Sir Keir Starmer, is deeply unpopular. The latest YouGov survey found he was disliked by 53 per cent of respondents and favoured by only 27 per cent.
Farage was disliked by 40 per cent and liked by 37 per cent, with other voters unsure. His party, however, has a big lead over Labour when respondents are asked how they would cast their votes.
The results this week found that Reform had 27 per cent of the vote, Labour was on 21 per cent, the Conservatives had 17 per cent, the Liberal Democrats 15 per cent, and the Greens 11 per cent. In the first-past-the-post system, parties cannot rely on preferences to leap ahead of rivals.
Albanese held private meetings at the Labour conference and spoke with Starmer, Lammy, Healey, Health Secretary Wes Streeting and Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper, as well as four other British ministers.
Opposition Leader Sussan Ley stepped up her attack on Albanese on Monday by declaring he should not have gone to the Labour conference to speak to a political gathering.
“He didn’t just cross a line, he flew to the other side of the world to give a partisan political speech on behalf of a political party in another country,” she said in Albury.
“That is totally unacceptable. We have no problem with the prime minister meeting the King, the prime minister of the UK and other UK leaders.
Opposition Leader Sussan Ley
“But giving a speech backing in a political party in another country – that really does cross the line.”Scott Morrison spoke as prime minister at a gathering for US President Donald Trump at a Pratt Industries factory in Ohio in September 2019, but his brief address was not about the contest between the left and right in politics.
John Howard addressed conservatives as prime minister in 2002 when he joined then US president George W. Bush in Washington, DC, at a gathering of the International Democracy Union. He spoke about politics, but without a rallying cry against the left.
Albanese, in contrast, spoke of the shared values of Labor in Australia and Labour in the UK, and used this to exhort the British party members to stay unified. This was a show of support for Starmer when there is daily speculation about his leadership in the media.
Lammy told this masthead that the Australian prime minister’s speech “captured beautifully” the history of the labour movement across international borders.
“I thought it was one of the best articulations of the power of labour in office,” he said.
Healey, who was in Australia with Lammy to discuss the AUKUS alliance earlier this year, also praised the address.
“He was able to set out for our conference the historic commitment that our labour movements made to be not parties of protest, but parties of government,” he said. “And he spoke of the historic duty that our parties have, which is not just to protest on behalf of working people but to get into power to change things for working people.
“That was a very powerful message, and it is a strong theme at this conference here for us in the UK. That’s why he went down so well.”
Albanese did not name any political opponents in his address, but the Labour faithful needed no hints to know he was referring to Farage and Reform when he contrasted Labour with its opponents.
He praised Starmer, emphasised unity and highlighted the fact that Labour has more time until the next election than Labor does in Australia. The remarks appeared to be aimed at calming down MPs who seemed so rattled about their future.
“Delivering change is more difficult than demanding it,” Albanese said. “Working within the system is tougher than railing against it. And creating solutions requires more of us than shouting slogans.”
One audience member began applauding at those remarks, and her response was picked up around the conference hall.
After the speech, the audience member, Johanna Baxter, told this masthead it was a fantastic speech. Baxter is the Labour MP for Paisley and Renfrewshire South, a constituency west of Glasgow.
“It was about the difficult choices that labour governments face, and about the fact that we are better in government delivering for working people than we are shouting from the sidelines,” she said.
“I thought that was a fantastic point that he made.”
so what are they “critics” saying, ¿ like minded party representatives from foreign countries shouldn’t be in discussion if those like minds lean left, but toxic extremists on the right should be able to broadcast their faeces all over the world ?
This might not go well for the author of those pamphlets. The weight of the law might be more than he counted on.
lol. Andrew Hastie has stepped down from the front bench over a disagreement on climate policy.
diddly-squat said:
lol. Andrew Hastie has stepped down from the front bench over a disagreement on climate policy.
Sorry.. I mean immigration policy
diddly-squat said:
diddly-squat said:
lol. Andrew Hastie has stepped down from the front bench over a disagreement on climate policy.
Sorry.. I mean immigration policy
Leadership challenge brewing?
Bubblecar said:
diddly-squat said:
diddly-squat said:
lol. Andrew Hastie has stepped down from the front bench over a disagreement on climate policy.
Sorry.. I mean immigration policy
Leadership challenge brewing?
Oh, yes.
We’ve let the ladies have a bit of a play at the controls, bit of a thrill for them.
Time to get serious, and get one of the chaps back at the helm.
Bubblecar said:
diddly-squat said:
diddly-squat said:
lol. Andrew Hastie has stepped down from the front bench over a disagreement on climate policy.
Sorry.. I mean immigration policy
Leadership challenge brewing?
Yes, he wants to lead the Liberal party into _complete _electoral oblivion… rather than just irrelevance,
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
diddly-squat said:Sorry.. I mean immigration policy
Leadership challenge brewing?
Yes, he wants to lead the Liberal party into _complete _electoral oblivion… rather than just irrelevance,
yes please
diddly-squat said:
diddly-squat said:
lol. Andrew Hastie has stepped down from the front bench over a disagreement on climate policy.
Sorry.. I mean immigration policy
To many Musli… no Chine… Indians. Yes too many Indians!
diddly-squat said:
lol. Andrew Hastie has stepped down from the front bench over a disagreement on climate policy.
Split split split
I’m assuming that Labor will win the 2028 election in Qld, as the LNP have never held serve for more than one term in the postgerrymander era. Completing the G:Link to the airport can happen after that, but I suppose it won’t finish quite in time for the Olympics.
dv said:
I’m assuming that Labor will win the 2028 election in Qld, as the LNP have never held serve for more than one term in the postgerrymander era. Completing the G:Link to the airport can happen after that, but I suppose it won’t finish quite in time for the Olympics.
quitter talk just engage the people who build hospitals in 10 days
yeah but in the greatest country on earth if he made threats then pretended to sit and debate someone about it then when he died they’d throw a national day of rallying for him
so fuck this Communist Police State Of Australia and its failure to protect free speech
SCIENCE said:
yeah but in the greatest country on earth if he made threats then pretended to sit and debate someone about it then when he died they’d throw a national day of rallying for him
so fuck this Communist Police State Of Australia and its failure to protect free speech
Nah, free speech is only for those who deserve it :p
