https://www.afr.com/opinion/by-destroying-the-liberals-the-nats-become-a-party-of-protest-20251103-p5n7cw
By destroying the Liberals, the Nats become a party of protest
Sussan Ley is at risk of joining Alexander Downer and Brendan Nelson as one of the Liberal Party’s short-lived leaders. She’s tough, but it’s hard to fight numbers.
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/commentisfree/2025/nov/04/nationals-littleproud-net-zero-emissions-claims-real-or-spin
After months of threatening, the junior Coalition partner has finally withdrawn its support for the national target of reaching net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.
“We are pegging ourselves
dv said:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/commentisfree/2025/nov/04/nationals-littleproud-net-zero-emissions-claims-real-or-spinAfter months of threatening, the junior Coalition partner has finally withdrawn its support for the national target of reaching net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.
“We are pegging ourselves
Lube or not is the question there
dv said:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/commentisfree/2025/nov/04/nationals-littleproud-net-zero-emissions-claims-real-or-spinAfter months of threatening, the junior Coalition partner has finally withdrawn its support for the national target of reaching net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.
“We are pegging ourselves
Even they can’t stand the stench.
OK so we know that CHINA, Russia, CHINA, Israel, CHINA, USSA and CHINA already do this kind of thing, so
who are the other -4 countries ¿
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/05/coalition-mps-abortion-comments-horror-from-liberal-women
Concerns from conservative Coalition MPs including Andrew Hastie and Barnaby Joyce about paid parental leave applying to late-term abortions elicited “a bit of horror” from women in the party, according to Jane Hume, as Sussan Ley and senior figures rejected the claims from rightwing figures.
Ley branded as “insensitive” concerns raised by some colleagues about the potential for women to seek late-term abortions in order to access paid parental leave. The shadow minister for women, Melissa McIntosh, said: “I’ve never heard of a woman doing that.”
Hume told Sky News: “We shouldn’t be using straightforward legislation as some sort of Trojan horse for personal opinions on this. I thought it was an unnecessary distraction and perhaps a bit of an error of judgment.”
The public tit-for-tat between conservative and more moderate MPs culminated in the extraordinary situation where right-wing senator Alex Antic directly rebuked Ley by name, rejecting her criticism.
dv said:
Concerns from conservative Coalition MPs including Andrew Hastie and Barnaby Joyce about paid parental leave applying to late-term abortions elicited “a bit of horror” from women in the party, according to Jane Hume, as Sussan Ley and senior figures rejected the claims from rightwing figures.
Ley branded as “insensitive” concerns raised by some colleagues about the potential for women to seek late-term abortions in order to access paid parental leave. The shadow minister for women, Melissa McIntosh, said: “I’ve never heard of a woman doing that.”
Hume told Sky News: “We shouldn’t be using straightforward legislation as some sort of Trojan horse for personal opinions on this. I thought it was an unnecessary distraction and perhaps a bit of an error of judgment.”
The public tit-for-tat between conservative and more moderate MPs culminated in the extraordinary situation where right-wing senator Alex Antic directly rebuked Ley by name, rejecting her criticism.
so can we take it as an indictment of the Real Men who just ask these questions in the way of speculation that they would totally impregnate themselves and then have late term abortions to access paid parental leave if they were able to
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson’s full speech from the CPAC event at Mar-a-Lago.
Well, it’s wonderful to be in America with a re-energised, strong, and patriotic leader who has the best interests of his people at heart.
And when you think about it, in just one year President Trump has turned this country around!
Investment in the US is booming.
Your borders are secure.
Illegal migrants are being rounded up and sent home in remarkable numbers.
The scourge of drugs – especially fentanyl – is being tackled head-on, and I love how your President has green-lit the US military to blow up drug cartel boats.
Like Trump, I strongly support tariffs on countries that unfairly compete with our industries and manufacturing with grossly unfair advantages – especially when it comes to energy and wage advantages; you’ve been able to save so many of your industries and draw many others back to America as a result of that strong decision.
President Trump has restored peace in the Middle East and stood up for the people of Israel.
He’s pulled out of the outrageously destructive Paris Agreement which continues to make countries like Australia so much poorer, and he’s supercharged mining, gas, and oil projects by removing government red tape which his great slogan: Drill, baby, drill!
He’s put an ended to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion quotas and reinstated merit-based selection.
Trump is slowly but surely cleaning up the streets of America and making your country so much safer.
Recruitment numbers for police and military service have turned around, with more Americans wanting to serve their country – this doesn’t happen by accident!
And I can tell, after being here for the last week, that Americans are proud of their country again.
Australia, on the other hand, has been an economic and social tinderbox that was created by successive Labor and Coalition governments.
We have a Labor government (which is your equivalent of far-Left Democrats), led by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese.
A Prime Minister who is seen by the majority of Australians to be putting our country on a dangerous path.
He governs our country with a measly 34.4 per cent of the vote – the second lowest winning margin in Australian history.
I hate to say it, but the Australian Labor Party will never make Australia great again despite a desperate need to turn our country around.
Under Labor’s weak governance, Australia is being flooded with up to 740,000 migrants a year.
That’s despite a housing crisis where we have more than 228,000 Australians being assisted by specialist homeless services.
And if I put that into perspective for Americans here today: Australia’s homeless rate is more than 350 per cent higher than America’s, and yet we have a government that continues to flood our country with migrants that we cannot cope with.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: you can’t blame those migrants who want to come to Australia; you can only blame the government.
And this is an Australian government that just does not care about the welfare of its own people.
And this mass immigration is not just having an impact on housing.
High migration numbers have had a brutal effect on our hospitals, health system, our roads, education standards, nursing homes, aged care facilities, and general infrastructure.
Mass immigration is one of the key reasons inflation remains higher than normal in Australia; meanwhile our national debt has crashed through the trillion-dollar mark, which means higher interest and higher taxes.
And despite the strong objection from the majority of Australian voters, politicians continue to ignore the distress that reckless immigration is having on our country; not to mention the growing number of migrants who refuse to assimilate and are incompatible with our laws, culture, and Australian way of life.
Australia is taking in the same hateful, radical migrants from countries that are having an enormous impact on the UK and so many European nations right now and we’re seeing the aftermath with frequent machete attacks, violent home invasions, and weekly pro-Palestine protests across our major cities.
Sadly, we’re starting to see some suburbs in Australia become virtual no-go zones for women who aren’t dressed in head-to-toe coverings.
No wonder Australian police have their hands full.
It didn’t happen by accident, and if you speak out about it you’re branded Islamophobic, racist, or even a Nazi.
In my case, I’ve been hauled before the Federal Court of Australia for ‘offending’ someone.
A lot of this language is coming from the United Nations.
A group that started out with the right intentions, but has been overtaken by the world’s greatest shysters, led by global elites who are stripping away Australia’s sovereignty with their own ‘one world’ agenda.
One Nation has long said we should never cede our sovereignty to these global groups like the UN, the World Health Organisation, and World Economic Forum.
Australia is a nation that produces just 1.1 per cent of the world’s carbon dioxide emissions, yet we’re driving our economy into the ground with an estimated $8 trillion spend on this unachievable dream of Net Zero.
The man-made climate change falsehood is this century’s greatest hoax, and it’s killing off trillions of dollars’ worth of investment throughout Australia.
One Nation is the only political party standing firm to end Australia’s involvement in the UN’s Paris Agreement.
Yes, we must protect our environment, but we are heading down a path that is destroying a decent standard of living, and sending many Australians into poverty and the push for renewables, and climate change will see many being controlled where they live, travel, and what they eat.
I will not allow Australia’s economy to be destroyed by unelected globalists while the UN permits China and India – which produce more than 40 per cent of the world’s carbon emissions – to get off scot-free.
China has plundered Australia’s industry and manufacturing sectors following our involvement in the 1970s’ LIMA Declaration, which has slashed our manufacturing security from 25 per cent of GDP to little more than 5 per cent today.
And no longer is China a developing nation, as they still claim to be, like they were in the 1970s.
They’re now the world’s largest manufacturer and exporter, accounting for 29 per cent of global output, and boast having the second-largest number of millionaires on the globe.
When Australian politicians sacrificed our manufacturing sector, we provided the Chinese Communist Party the financial leg-up to afford having the biggest army in the world and a navy that boasts the largest number of vessels across the globe.
It’s for this reason that One Nation has backed the trilateral security partnership between the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia – better known Aukus.
Despite President Trump’s insistence on coalition defence partners increasing military budgets, the Albanese Labor government has made brutal cost cuts across a broad range of defence areas.
And although we have a remarkable Defence Force, we cannot defend our nation alone.
That is why our Aukus arrangement is critical with the might of the US military and President Trump.
Australia must boost its defence spending to at least 5 per cent of GDP.
My American cousin, who served in the US military, told me decades ago that Americans are sick of fighting wars and losing lives for other countries. I have never forgotten his words, so Americans have a right to be frustrated when they’re constantly forced to play big brother to nations who haven’t invested in their own defence capabilities.
Australian politicians – including our current Prime Minister – have been hopeless in recognising the very real threat of conflict in our region in the short term.
We must be a nation that does all that we can to defend ourselves.
But then again, we have many Australians starting to ask what’s left to defend?
You might ask me why I say this… In Australia, roughly 60 per cent of our nation has been handed back to the indigenous Aboriginal people under what we call Native Title claims.
As a result, non-Indigenous Australians are being locked out of a growing number of regions within our country – especially landmarks, beaches, and national parks.
Many mining projects are being forced to negotiate land agreements and royalties which not only costs projects more, but creates an additional layer of bureaucracy adding years to project approvals.
There’s no end to the interference Native Title has created, despite our Parliaments dedicating roughly $40 billion every year to exclusively support barely 4 per cent of Australia’s population – which is around 980,000 people.
This has created an enormous divide within Australia which has seen sweeping name changes to some of our most iconic landmarks, such as Fraser Island off the Queensland coast.
We have these outrageous Welcome to Country formalities that were not a standard practice pre-1970s.
They’re held at sporting events, the start of our Parliament, and so many other public events.
We’re even forced to hear them every time we land at an Australian airport.
The Albanese Labor government even tried to enshrine this racial inequality in the Australian Constitution.
One Nation was at the forefront of the campaign which saw this proposal defeated, and the result gives us hope the majority of Australians – when they’re given a real voice – reject the far-Left’s agenda.
Another example of Australia’s wrong direction under the Labor government is this ridiculous ideology about gender:
the idea that there are multiple genders rather than two;
the idea that you can change your gender just by identifying differently and demanding strange pronouns;
that biological men can and should invade and occupy women-only spaces like bathrooms, online forums, and sports;
that anyone who is opposed or even questions this ideology is attacked, de-platformed, threatened, and pursued through the courts;
the insidious gender affirmation approach to children – hooking them on unapproved off-label drugs like puberty blockers, and shutting parents out of medical decisions about their own children.
The United States – along with some other countries – is showing the way forward on this issue while Australia is stubbornly refuses to intervene.
Despite clear evidence overseas that the gender affirmation approach is harmful to children, and despite the almost complete lack of clinical evidence supporting gender affirmation, Australia continues to allow children to be subjected to it.
Every time I’ve tried to start a parliamentary inquiry into this issue, the Labor government – as well as the main opposition party and the Greens – have moved to block it.
They don’t want this appalling ideology – or their own culpability – exposed to the Australian people.
Only in my home state of Queensland has the prescription of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for children been banned, pending a review of the clinical guidelines.
In all other parts of Australia, thousands of children continue to be subjected to this ideological approach.
All I want to do is protect these kids, and protect those who speak out against this ideology at risk to their safety and livelihood.
I’ve been a figure of Australian politics for 30 years.
My stance, from the very beginning, has been equality for all Australians – regardless of race, colour, sex, or creed.
We didn’t revere someone just because they had more money, success, or power.
We worshipped heroes from battlefields and sporting fields and everyday life, not attention-seekers crying about victimhood or grubby politicians seeking power for the sake of it.
We spoke our minds, and we spoke boldly and freely without concern for being cancelled – or jailed – which is what happened to me.
There’s an Australian concept we refer to as ‘a fair go’.
Australians are generous people, and many of us only want a fair go for ourselves and for everyone else.
It’s the Australian way – or at least it used to be.
But now we have an Australian government which puts the interests of terrorist states, authoritarian regimes, foreign migrants, trans activists, environmental extremists, and corrupt unions before the interests of the Australian people.
Australians no longer feel they have any real say about the crucial decisions that are making their families poorer and their country unrecognisable.
They don’t feel they’re getting a fair go.
They are looking for leadership, and they are looking for leaders who will give their country back to them.
They want do feel secure in their pride for our nation and the achievements of its people, rather than to be told they must be ashamed of it.
They want what any normal American would want: an affordable and secure home, a good education and future prospects for their kids, a safe community, and a decent job or income from a business.
They want a fair go.
And that’s what One Nation wants for all Australians.
We want equal rights for all – and special rights for none.
We want equal laws for all – and special laws for none.
We don’t want special privileges based on divisive ‘identities’; we want to celebrate the one identity all Australians share: being Australian.
We want a prosperous, fair, equal, and powerful country that puts the interests of Australians first.
We don’t want the socialist nightmare Albanese and Labor have planned for us.
We want to re-unite Australia, the land of the fair go.
These are my goals.
One Nation’s strength is growing, and I want to build on this strength so that we become a party that will form government in Australia.
Australians are responding to us in numbers: our national membership has doubled since the federal election in May this year, and our polling is at record levels.
We still have a steep hill to climb, but I will never stop fighting to make Australia great again.
God bless America, and God help Australia!
Bogsnorkler said:
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson’s full speech from the CPAC event at Mar-a-Lago.Well, it’s wonderful to be in America with a re-energised, strong, and patriotic leader who has the best interests of his people at heart.
And when you think about it, in just one year President Trump has turned this country around!
Investment in the US is booming.
Your borders are secure.
Illegal migrants are being rounded up and sent home in remarkable numbers.
The scourge of drugs – especially fentanyl – is being tackled head-on, and I love how your President has green-lit the US military to blow up drug cartel boats.
Like Trump, I strongly support tariffs on countries that unfairly compete with our industries and manufacturing with grossly unfair advantages – especially when it comes to energy and wage advantages; you’ve been able to save so many of your industries and draw many others back to America as a result of that strong decision.
President Trump has restored peace in the Middle East and stood up for the people of Israel.
He’s pulled out of the outrageously destructive Paris Agreement which continues to make countries like Australia so much poorer, and he’s supercharged mining, gas, and oil projects by removing government red tape which his great slogan: Drill, baby, drill!
He’s put an ended to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion quotas and reinstated merit-based selection.
Trump is slowly but surely cleaning up the streets of America and making your country so much safer.
Recruitment numbers for police and military service have turned around, with more Americans wanting to serve their country – this doesn’t happen by accident!
And I can tell, after being here for the last week, that Americans are proud of their country again.
Australia, on the other hand, has been an economic and social tinderbox that was created by successive Labor and Coalition governments.
We have a Labor government (which is your equivalent of far-Left Democrats), led by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese.
A Prime Minister who is seen by the majority of Australians to be putting our country on a dangerous path.
He governs our country with a measly 34.4 per cent of the vote – the second lowest winning margin in Australian history.
I hate to say it, but the Australian Labor Party will never make Australia great again despite a desperate need to turn our country around.
Under Labor’s weak governance, Australia is being flooded with up to 740,000 migrants a year.
That’s despite a housing crisis where we have more than 228,000 Australians being assisted by specialist homeless services.
And if I put that into perspective for Americans here today: Australia’s homeless rate is more than 350 per cent higher than America’s, and yet we have a government that continues to flood our country with migrants that we cannot cope with.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: you can’t blame those migrants who want to come to Australia; you can only blame the government.
And this is an Australian government that just does not care about the welfare of its own people.
And this mass immigration is not just having an impact on housing.
High migration numbers have had a brutal effect on our hospitals, health system, our roads, education standards, nursing homes, aged care facilities, and general infrastructure.
Mass immigration is one of the key reasons inflation remains higher than normal in Australia; meanwhile our national debt has crashed through the trillion-dollar mark, which means higher interest and higher taxes.
And despite the strong objection from the majority of Australian voters, politicians continue to ignore the distress that reckless immigration is having on our country; not to mention the growing number of migrants who refuse to assimilate and are incompatible with our laws, culture, and Australian way of life.
Australia is taking in the same hateful, radical migrants from countries that are having an enormous impact on the UK and so many European nations right now and we’re seeing the aftermath with frequent machete attacks, violent home invasions, and weekly pro-Palestine protests across our major cities.
Sadly, we’re starting to see some suburbs in Australia become virtual no-go zones for women who aren’t dressed in head-to-toe coverings.
No wonder Australian police have their hands full.
It didn’t happen by accident, and if you speak out about it you’re branded Islamophobic, racist, or even a Nazi.
In my case, I’ve been hauled before the Federal Court of Australia for ‘offending’ someone.
A lot of this language is coming from the United Nations.
A group that started out with the right intentions, but has been overtaken by the world’s greatest shysters, led by global elites who are stripping away Australia’s sovereignty with their own ‘one world’ agenda.
One Nation has long said we should never cede our sovereignty to these global groups like the UN, the World Health Organisation, and World Economic Forum.
Australia is a nation that produces just 1.1 per cent of the world’s carbon dioxide emissions, yet we’re driving our economy into the ground with an estimated $8 trillion spend on this unachievable dream of Net Zero.
The man-made climate change falsehood is this century’s greatest hoax, and it’s killing off trillions of dollars’ worth of investment throughout Australia.
One Nation is the only political party standing firm to end Australia’s involvement in the UN’s Paris Agreement.
Yes, we must protect our environment, but we are heading down a path that is destroying a decent standard of living, and sending many Australians into poverty and the push for renewables, and climate change will see many being controlled where they live, travel, and what they eat.
I will not allow Australia’s economy to be destroyed by unelected globalists while the UN permits China and India – which produce more than 40 per cent of the world’s carbon emissions – to get off scot-free.
China has plundered Australia’s industry and manufacturing sectors following our involvement in the 1970s’ LIMA Declaration, which has slashed our manufacturing security from 25 per cent of GDP to little more than 5 per cent today.
And no longer is China a developing nation, as they still claim to be, like they were in the 1970s.
They’re now the world’s largest manufacturer and exporter, accounting for 29 per cent of global output, and boast having the second-largest number of millionaires on the globe.
When Australian politicians sacrificed our manufacturing sector, we provided the Chinese Communist Party the financial leg-up to afford having the biggest army in the world and a navy that boasts the largest number of vessels across the globe.
It’s for this reason that One Nation has backed the trilateral security partnership between the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia – better known Aukus.
Despite President Trump’s insistence on coalition defence partners increasing military budgets, the Albanese Labor government has made brutal cost cuts across a broad range of defence areas.
And although we have a remarkable Defence Force, we cannot defend our nation alone.
That is why our Aukus arrangement is critical with the might of the US military and President Trump.
Australia must boost its defence spending to at least 5 per cent of GDP.
My American cousin, who served in the US military, told me decades ago that Americans are sick of fighting wars and losing lives for other countries. I have never forgotten his words, so Americans have a right to be frustrated when they’re constantly forced to play big brother to nations who haven’t invested in their own defence capabilities.
Australian politicians – including our current Prime Minister – have been hopeless in recognising the very real threat of conflict in our region in the short term.
We must be a nation that does all that we can to defend ourselves.
But then again, we have many Australians starting to ask what’s left to defend?
You might ask me why I say this… In Australia, roughly 60 per cent of our nation has been handed back to the indigenous Aboriginal people under what we call Native Title claims.
As a result, non-Indigenous Australians are being locked out of a growing number of regions within our country – especially landmarks, beaches, and national parks.
Many mining projects are being forced to negotiate land agreements and royalties which not only costs projects more, but creates an additional layer of bureaucracy adding years to project approvals.
There’s no end to the interference Native Title has created, despite our Parliaments dedicating roughly $40 billion every year to exclusively support barely 4 per cent of Australia’s population – which is around 980,000 people.
This has created an enormous divide within Australia which has seen sweeping name changes to some of our most iconic landmarks, such as Fraser Island off the Queensland coast.
We have these outrageous Welcome to Country formalities that were not a standard practice pre-1970s.
They’re held at sporting events, the start of our Parliament, and so many other public events.
We’re even forced to hear them every time we land at an Australian airport.
The Albanese Labor government even tried to enshrine this racial inequality in the Australian Constitution.
One Nation was at the forefront of the campaign which saw this proposal defeated, and the result gives us hope the majority of Australians – when they’re given a real voice – reject the far-Left’s agenda.
Another example of Australia’s wrong direction under the Labor government is this ridiculous ideology about gender:
the idea that there are multiple genders rather than two;
the idea that you can change your gender just by identifying differently and demanding strange pronouns;
that biological men can and should invade and occupy women-only spaces like bathrooms, online forums, and sports;
that anyone who is opposed or even questions this ideology is attacked, de-platformed, threatened, and pursued through the courts;
the insidious gender affirmation approach to children – hooking them on unapproved off-label drugs like puberty blockers, and shutting parents out of medical decisions about their own children.
The United States – along with some other countries – is showing the way forward on this issue while Australia is stubbornly refuses to intervene.Despite clear evidence overseas that the gender affirmation approach is harmful to children, and despite the almost complete lack of clinical evidence supporting gender affirmation, Australia continues to allow children to be subjected to it.
Every time I’ve tried to start a parliamentary inquiry into this issue, the Labor government – as well as the main opposition party and the Greens – have moved to block it.
They don’t want this appalling ideology – or their own culpability – exposed to the Australian people.
Only in my home state of Queensland has the prescription of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for children been banned, pending a review of the clinical guidelines.
In all other parts of Australia, thousands of children continue to be subjected to this ideological approach.
All I want to do is protect these kids, and protect those who speak out against this ideology at risk to their safety and livelihood.
I’ve been a figure of Australian politics for 30 years.
My stance, from the very beginning, has been equality for all Australians – regardless of race, colour, sex, or creed.
We didn’t revere someone just because they had more money, success, or power.
We worshipped heroes from battlefields and sporting fields and everyday life, not attention-seekers crying about victimhood or grubby politicians seeking power for the sake of it.
We spoke our minds, and we spoke boldly and freely without concern for being cancelled – or jailed – which is what happened to me.
There’s an Australian concept we refer to as ‘a fair go’.
Australians are generous people, and many of us only want a fair go for ourselves and for everyone else.
It’s the Australian way – or at least it used to be.
But now we have an Australian government which puts the interests of terrorist states, authoritarian regimes, foreign migrants, trans activists, environmental extremists, and corrupt unions before the interests of the Australian people.
Australians no longer feel they have any real say about the crucial decisions that are making their families poorer and their country unrecognisable.
They don’t feel they’re getting a fair go.
They are looking for leadership, and they are looking for leaders who will give their country back to them.
They want do feel secure in their pride for our nation and the achievements of its people, rather than to be told they must be ashamed of it.
They want what any normal American would want: an affordable and secure home, a good education and future prospects for their kids, a safe community, and a decent job or income from a business.
They want a fair go.
And that’s what One Nation wants for all Australians.
We want equal rights for all – and special rights for none.
We want equal laws for all – and special laws for none.
We don’t want special privileges based on divisive ‘identities’; we want to celebrate the one identity all Australians share: being Australian.
We want a prosperous, fair, equal, and powerful country that puts the interests of Australians first.
We don’t want the socialist nightmare Albanese and Labor have planned for us.
We want to re-unite Australia, the land of the fair go.
These are my goals.
One Nation’s strength is growing, and I want to build on this strength so that we become a party that will form government in Australia.
Australians are responding to us in numbers: our national membership has doubled since the federal election in May this year, and our polling is at record levels.
We still have a steep hill to climb, but I will never stop fighting to make Australia great again.
God bless America, and God help Australia!
All that, when she could have just said ‘i wanna be a Nazi, too’.
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson’s full speech from the CPAC event at Mar-a-Lago.
God bless America, and God help Australia!
All that, when she could have just said ‘i wanna be a Nazi, too’.
if they love fascism so much why don’t they just stay there
Bogsnorkler said:
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson’s full speech from the CPAC event at Mar-a-Lago.Well, it’s wonderful to be in America with a re-energised, strong, and patriotic leader who has the best interests of his people at heart.
And when you think about it, in just one year President Trump has turned this country around!
Investment in the US is booming.
Your borders are secure.
Illegal migrants are being rounded up and sent home in remarkable numbers.
The scourge of drugs – especially fentanyl – is being tackled head-on, and I love how your President has green-lit the US military to blow up drug cartel boats.
Like Trump, I strongly support tariffs on countries that unfairly compete with our industries and manufacturing with grossly unfair advantages – especially when it comes to energy and wage advantages; you’ve been able to save so many of your industries and draw many others back to America as a result of that strong decision.
President Trump has restored peace in the Middle East and stood up for the people of Israel.
He’s pulled out of the outrageously destructive Paris Agreement which continues to make countries like Australia so much poorer, and he’s supercharged mining, gas, and oil projects by removing government red tape which his great slogan: Drill, baby, drill!
He’s put an ended to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion quotas and reinstated merit-based selection.
Trump is slowly but surely cleaning up the streets of America and making your country so much safer.
Recruitment numbers for police and military service have turned around, with more Americans wanting to serve their country – this doesn’t happen by accident!
And I can tell, after being here for the last week, that Americans are proud of their country again.
Australia, on the other hand, has been an economic and social tinderbox that was created by successive Labor and Coalition governments.
We have a Labor government (which is your equivalent of far-Left Democrats), led by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese.
A Prime Minister who is seen by the majority of Australians to be putting our country on a dangerous path.
He governs our country with a measly 34.4 per cent of the vote – the second lowest winning margin in Australian history.
I hate to say it, but the Australian Labor Party will never make Australia great again despite a desperate need to turn our country around.
Under Labor’s weak governance, Australia is being flooded with up to 740,000 migrants a year.
That’s despite a housing crisis where we have more than 228,000 Australians being assisted by specialist homeless services.
And if I put that into perspective for Americans here today: Australia’s homeless rate is more than 350 per cent higher than America’s, and yet we have a government that continues to flood our country with migrants that we cannot cope with.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: you can’t blame those migrants who want to come to Australia; you can only blame the government.
And this is an Australian government that just does not care about the welfare of its own people.
And this mass immigration is not just having an impact on housing.
High migration numbers have had a brutal effect on our hospitals, health system, our roads, education standards, nursing homes, aged care facilities, and general infrastructure.
Mass immigration is one of the key reasons inflation remains higher than normal in Australia; meanwhile our national debt has crashed through the trillion-dollar mark, which means higher interest and higher taxes.
And despite the strong objection from the majority of Australian voters, politicians continue to ignore the distress that reckless immigration is having on our country; not to mention the growing number of migrants who refuse to assimilate and are incompatible with our laws, culture, and Australian way of life.
Australia is taking in the same hateful, radical migrants from countries that are having an enormous impact on the UK and so many European nations right now and we’re seeing the aftermath with frequent machete attacks, violent home invasions, and weekly pro-Palestine protests across our major cities.
Sadly, we’re starting to see some suburbs in Australia become virtual no-go zones for women who aren’t dressed in head-to-toe coverings.
No wonder Australian police have their hands full.
It didn’t happen by accident, and if you speak out about it you’re branded Islamophobic, racist, or even a Nazi.
In my case, I’ve been hauled before the Federal Court of Australia for ‘offending’ someone.
A lot of this language is coming from the United Nations.
A group that started out with the right intentions, but has been overtaken by the world’s greatest shysters, led by global elites who are stripping away Australia’s sovereignty with their own ‘one world’ agenda.
One Nation has long said we should never cede our sovereignty to these global groups like the UN, the World Health Organisation, and World Economic Forum.
Australia is a nation that produces just 1.1 per cent of the world’s carbon dioxide emissions, yet we’re driving our economy into the ground with an estimated $8 trillion spend on this unachievable dream of Net Zero.
The man-made climate change falsehood is this century’s greatest hoax, and it’s killing off trillions of dollars’ worth of investment throughout Australia.
One Nation is the only political party standing firm to end Australia’s involvement in the UN’s Paris Agreement.
Yes, we must protect our environment, but we are heading down a path that is destroying a decent standard of living, and sending many Australians into poverty and the push for renewables, and climate change will see many being controlled where they live, travel, and what they eat.
I will not allow Australia’s economy to be destroyed by unelected globalists while the UN permits China and India – which produce more than 40 per cent of the world’s carbon emissions – to get off scot-free.
China has plundered Australia’s industry and manufacturing sectors following our involvement in the 1970s’ LIMA Declaration, which has slashed our manufacturing security from 25 per cent of GDP to little more than 5 per cent today.
And no longer is China a developing nation, as they still claim to be, like they were in the 1970s.
They’re now the world’s largest manufacturer and exporter, accounting for 29 per cent of global output, and boast having the second-largest number of millionaires on the globe.
When Australian politicians sacrificed our manufacturing sector, we provided the Chinese Communist Party the financial leg-up to afford having the biggest army in the world and a navy that boasts the largest number of vessels across the globe.
It’s for this reason that One Nation has backed the trilateral security partnership between the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia – better known Aukus.
Despite President Trump’s insistence on coalition defence partners increasing military budgets, the Albanese Labor government has made brutal cost cuts across a broad range of defence areas.
And although we have a remarkable Defence Force, we cannot defend our nation alone.
That is why our Aukus arrangement is critical with the might of the US military and President Trump.
Australia must boost its defence spending to at least 5 per cent of GDP.
My American cousin, who served in the US military, told me decades ago that Americans are sick of fighting wars and losing lives for other countries. I have never forgotten his words, so Americans have a right to be frustrated when they’re constantly forced to play big brother to nations who haven’t invested in their own defence capabilities.
Australian politicians – including our current Prime Minister – have been hopeless in recognising the very real threat of conflict in our region in the short term.
We must be a nation that does all that we can to defend ourselves.
But then again, we have many Australians starting to ask what’s left to defend?
You might ask me why I say this… In Australia, roughly 60 per cent of our nation has been handed back to the indigenous Aboriginal people under what we call Native Title claims.
As a result, non-Indigenous Australians are being locked out of a growing number of regions within our country – especially landmarks, beaches, and national parks.
Many mining projects are being forced to negotiate land agreements and royalties which not only costs projects more, but creates an additional layer of bureaucracy adding years to project approvals.
There’s no end to the interference Native Title has created, despite our Parliaments dedicating roughly $40 billion every year to exclusively support barely 4 per cent of Australia’s population – which is around 980,000 people.
This has created an enormous divide within Australia which has seen sweeping name changes to some of our most iconic landmarks, such as Fraser Island off the Queensland coast.
We have these outrageous Welcome to Country formalities that were not a standard practice pre-1970s.
They’re held at sporting events, the start of our Parliament, and so many other public events.
We’re even forced to hear them every time we land at an Australian airport.
The Albanese Labor government even tried to enshrine this racial inequality in the Australian Constitution.
One Nation was at the forefront of the campaign which saw this proposal defeated, and the result gives us hope the majority of Australians – when they’re given a real voice – reject the far-Left’s agenda.
Another example of Australia’s wrong direction under the Labor government is this ridiculous ideology about gender:
the idea that there are multiple genders rather than two;
the idea that you can change your gender just by identifying differently and demanding strange pronouns;
that biological men can and should invade and occupy women-only spaces like bathrooms, online forums, and sports;
that anyone who is opposed or even questions this ideology is attacked, de-platformed, threatened, and pursued through the courts;
the insidious gender affirmation approach to children – hooking them on unapproved off-label drugs like puberty blockers, and shutting parents out of medical decisions about their own children.
The United States – along with some other countries – is showing the way forward on this issue while Australia is stubbornly refuses to intervene.Despite clear evidence overseas that the gender affirmation approach is harmful to children, and despite the almost complete lack of clinical evidence supporting gender affirmation, Australia continues to allow children to be subjected to it.
Every time I’ve tried to start a parliamentary inquiry into this issue, the Labor government – as well as the main opposition party and the Greens – have moved to block it.
They don’t want this appalling ideology – or their own culpability – exposed to the Australian people.
Only in my home state of Queensland has the prescription of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for children been banned, pending a review of the clinical guidelines.
In all other parts of Australia, thousands of children continue to be subjected to this ideological approach.
All I want to do is protect these kids, and protect those who speak out against this ideology at risk to their safety and livelihood.
I’ve been a figure of Australian politics for 30 years.
My stance, from the very beginning, has been equality for all Australians – regardless of race, colour, sex, or creed.
We didn’t revere someone just because they had more money, success, or power.
We worshipped heroes from battlefields and sporting fields and everyday life, not attention-seekers crying about victimhood or grubby politicians seeking power for the sake of it.
We spoke our minds, and we spoke boldly and freely without concern for being cancelled – or jailed – which is what happened to me.
There’s an Australian concept we refer to as ‘a fair go’.
Australians are generous people, and many of us only want a fair go for ourselves and for everyone else.
It’s the Australian way – or at least it used to be.
But now we have an Australian government which puts the interests of terrorist states, authoritarian regimes, foreign migrants, trans activists, environmental extremists, and corrupt unions before the interests of the Australian people.
Australians no longer feel they have any real say about the crucial decisions that are making their families poorer and their country unrecognisable.
They don’t feel they’re getting a fair go.
They are looking for leadership, and they are looking for leaders who will give their country back to them.
They want do feel secure in their pride for our nation and the achievements of its people, rather than to be told they must be ashamed of it.
They want what any normal American would want: an affordable and secure home, a good education and future prospects for their kids, a safe community, and a decent job or income from a business.
They want a fair go.
And that’s what One Nation wants for all Australians.
We want equal rights for all – and special rights for none.
We want equal laws for all – and special laws for none.
We don’t want special privileges based on divisive ‘identities’; we want to celebrate the one identity all Australians share: being Australian.
We want a prosperous, fair, equal, and powerful country that puts the interests of Australians first.
We don’t want the socialist nightmare Albanese and Labor have planned for us.
We want to re-unite Australia, the land of the fair go.
These are my goals.
One Nation’s strength is growing, and I want to build on this strength so that we become a party that will form government in Australia.
Australians are responding to us in numbers: our national membership has doubled since the federal election in May this year, and our polling is at record levels.
We still have a steep hill to climb, but I will never stop fighting to make Australia great again.
God bless America, and God help Australia!
I knew she was off her nut but she’s reading a speech written for her by the MAGA people, surely.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson’s full speech from the CPAC event at Mar-a-Lago.
God bless America, and God help Australia!
I knew she was off her nut but she’s reading a speech written for her by the MAGA people, surely.
it’s impossible for her to have invented it herself ¿ because no self respecting Australian would do that or ¿ because women can’t write speeches
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson’s full speech from the CPAC event at Mar-a-Lago.
God bless America, and God help Australia!
All that, when she could have just said ‘i wanna be a Nazi, too’.
if they love fascism so much why don’t they just stay there
I wish she would. I really do.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson’s full speech from the CPAC event at Mar-a-Lago.
God bless America, and God help Australia!
I knew she was off her nut but she’s reading a speech written for her by the MAGA people, surely.
it’s impossible for her to have invented it herself ¿ because no self respecting Australian would do that or ¿ because women can’t write speeches
Ploise esplain..
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:captain_spalding said:
All that, when she could have just said ‘i wanna be a Nazi, too’.
if they love fascism so much why don’t they just stay there
I wish she would. I really do.
People seem to have simplistic ideas of what causes complex events
Blaming immigrants for all the woes seems to be a big one.
Neo-Nazis Are Launching the White Australia Party to Run in the Next Federal Election.
White Australia NSW held a meeting in a hall in Greater Sydney on Wednesday, 22 October 2025, and as the photos of speakers involved at the event reveal, this is the political party the National Socialist Network, or the NSN, has launched as a contender for federal elections, and participants at the event shared white supremacist ideals and a 10-hour-long smoked brisket of pulled pork and chicken.
More than 100 participants were at the meeting, with organisers bragging that the numbers were greater than recent membership drive events held by far-right minor party figures One Nation’s Pauline Hanson and People First’s Gerard Rennick. And the fact that this proliferation of far-right minor parties are pulling numbers at multiple events is a sign that white nationalism is growing.
The Age revealed in April that NSN leader Thomas Sewell and his black-clad boys were forming a political party. In order to achieve this goal, the organisation needs to have 1,500 verified members to apply to the Australian Electoral Commission to run federally. A message in the White Australia Telegram feed from Thursday this week reveals that the party is close to achieving this goal.
The currently remanded Sewell made the remarks about forming a party, after he’d been arrested over a 26 January Nazi rally on Karuna land in Adelaide. The idea that neo-Nazis were going to run in elections appeared ludicrous, but half a year later and the nation has recently experienced three mass antiimmigration rallies, all of which featured white nationalists and the first included the NSN.
And while there exists an inclination to simply mock the National Socialist Network and its members, as they consider running in elections as legitimate contenders under the banner of White Australia, to simply deride the most extreme members of a broader movement taking place amongst disaffected Anglo Celtic Australians, is to ignore the serious danger this poses.
The ON voters will be torn as to who to vote for no doubt.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
I knew she was off her nut but she’s reading a speech written for her by the MAGA people, surely.
it’s impossible for her to have invented it herself ¿ because no self respecting Australian would do that or ¿ because women can’t write speeches
Ploise esplain..
we were just casting doubt on the certainty that her speech was written by someone else
Spiny Norman said:
Neo-Nazis Are Launching the White Australia Party to Run in the Next Federal Election.White Australia NSW held a meeting in a hall in Greater Sydney on Wednesday, 22 October 2025, and as the photos of speakers involved at the event reveal, this is the political party the National Socialist Network, or the NSN, has launched as a contender for federal elections, and participants at the event shared white supremacist ideals and a 10-hour-long smoked brisket of pulled pork and chicken.
More than 100 participants were at the meeting, with organisers bragging that the numbers were greater than recent membership drive events held by far-right minor party figures One Nation’s Pauline Hanson and People First’s Gerard Rennick. And the fact that this proliferation of far-right minor parties are pulling numbers at multiple events is a sign that white nationalism is growing.
The Age revealed in April that NSN leader Thomas Sewell and his black-clad boys were forming a political party. In order to achieve this goal, the organisation needs to have 1,500 verified members to apply to the Australian Electoral Commission to run federally. A message in the White Australia Telegram feed from Thursday this week reveals that the party is close to achieving this goal.
The currently remanded Sewell made the remarks about forming a party, after he’d been arrested over a 26 January Nazi rally on Karuna land in Adelaide. The idea that neo-Nazis were going to run in elections appeared ludicrous, but half a year later and the nation has recently experienced three mass antiimmigration rallies, all of which featured white nationalists and the first included the NSN.
And while there exists an inclination to simply mock the National Socialist Network and its members, as they consider running in elections as legitimate contenders under the banner of White Australia, to simply deride the most extreme members of a broader movement taking place amongst disaffected Anglo Celtic Australians, is to ignore the serious danger this poses.
The ON voters will be torn as to who to vote for no doubt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_National_Socialist_Party
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
it’s impossible for her to have invented it herself ¿ because no self respecting Australian would do that or ¿ because women can’t write speeches
Ploise esplain..
we were just casting doubt on the certainty that her speech was written by someone else
Either she was saying what Trump wanted to hear or she wrote a speech crawling up MAGA’ arse.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
it’s impossible for her to have invented it herself ¿ because no self respecting Australian would do that or ¿ because women can’t write speeches
Ploise esplain..
we were just casting doubt on the certainty that her speech was written by someone else
By using her own saying, I was indicating that it was highly likely that she didn’t write the speech. Remember when she didn’t understand the meaning of “xenophobia”?
Van Badham
Imagine being such a belly-crawling, grifting streak of garbage that you’d fleece the Australian tax-payer for a $200,000+ salary every year to NOT turn up to parliament and do your job as a senator – especially in a year where there are less parliamentary sitting days because there was an election on.
Imagine ALSO being such a poisonous, hypocritical and self-interested toad that you’d instead skip off to AMERICA to lick Donald Trump’s boots – and SLAG OFF AUSTRALIA and the Australians who have been paying your way for the last goddamn 30 YEARS in the time you were there.
And imagine being such a contemptuous, lip-licking eel that you’d have the gall to describe yourself as a “patriot” while you took your two-week holiday overseas.
Well, “Senator” Pauline Hanson IS that streak of garbage because that’s exactly what she did this week.
SOME NEWS: Patriots stand up for the institutions that represent this country and they fight every day to make them the best they can be.
They DON’T slither like a quisling overseas to crawl up the type of regime where masked secret police snatch citizens from the streets, where a President defies court orders to feed children and where the present“Administration” is so incompetent they can’t event manage to pay AIR-TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS.
Pauline, if you think Trump’s America is your kind of paradise, PAY BACK the Australian taxpayer every dollar you’ve taken from us over your useless three decades of bullshitting your voters and befouling AUSTRALIAN politics, pack your little suitcase and fucking move there.
Let’s see how “great” you think America is when you get hit with your first medical bill under the US system, love. Let’s see how you go then.
kii said:
Van BadhamImagine being such a belly-crawling, grifting streak of garbage that you’d fleece the Australian tax-payer for a $200,000+ salary every year to NOT turn up to parliament and do your job as a senator – especially in a year where there are less parliamentary sitting days because there was an election on.
Imagine ALSO being such a poisonous, hypocritical and self-interested toad that you’d instead skip off to AMERICA to lick Donald Trump’s boots – and SLAG OFF AUSTRALIA and the Australians who have been paying your way for the last goddamn 30 YEARS in the time you were there.
And imagine being such a contemptuous, lip-licking eel that you’d have the gall to describe yourself as a “patriot” while you took your two-week holiday overseas.
Well, “Senator” Pauline Hanson IS that streak of garbage because that’s exactly what she did this week.
SOME NEWS: Patriots stand up for the institutions that represent this country and they fight every day to make them the best they can be.
They DON’T slither like a quisling overseas to crawl up the type of regime where masked secret police snatch citizens from the streets, where a President defies court orders to feed children and where the present“Administration” is so incompetent they can’t event manage to pay AIR-TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS.
Pauline, if you think Trump’s America is your kind of paradise, PAY BACK the Australian taxpayer every dollar you’ve taken from us over your useless three decades of bullshitting your voters and befouling AUSTRALIAN politics, pack your little suitcase and fucking move there.
Let’s see how “great” you think America is when you get hit with your first medical bill under the US system, love. Let’s see how you go then.
Nice. She can fuck right off and when she gets there, just keep fucking off.
The first boss of the Australian Submarine Agency, Vice Admiral Jonathan Mead, has announced he will retire in mid-2026. His retirement will come one year before the first US nuclear-powered submarine is due to be deployed to Western Australia in 2027 under the AUKUS agreement.
Mr Marles insists Labor is still committed to establishing a base on the eastern seaboard, and is “open-minded” about the location, but has delayed making a decision until “around 2030” — well after the next federal election.
kii said:
Van BadhamImagine being such a belly-crawling, grifting streak of garbage that you’d fleece the Australian tax-payer for a $200,000+ salary every year to NOT turn up to parliament and do your job as a senator – especially in a year where there are less parliamentary sitting days because there was an election on.
Imagine ALSO being such a poisonous, hypocritical and self-interested toad that you’d instead skip off to AMERICA to lick Donald Trump’s boots – and SLAG OFF AUSTRALIA and the Australians who have been paying your way for the last goddamn 30 YEARS in the time you were there.
And imagine being such a contemptuous, lip-licking eel that you’d have the gall to describe yourself as a “patriot” while you took your two-week holiday overseas.
Well, “Senator” Pauline Hanson IS that streak of garbage because that’s exactly what she did this week.
SOME NEWS: Patriots stand up for the institutions that represent this country and they fight every day to make them the best they can be.
They DON’T slither like a quisling overseas to crawl up the type of regime where masked secret police snatch citizens from the streets, where a President defies court orders to feed children and where the present“Administration” is so incompetent they can’t event manage to pay AIR-TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS.
Pauline, if you think Trump’s America is your kind of paradise, PAY BACK the Australian taxpayer every dollar you’ve taken from us over your useless three decades of bullshitting your voters and befouling AUSTRALIAN politics, pack your little suitcase and fucking move there.
Let’s see how “great” you think America is when you get hit with your first medical bill under the US system, love. Let’s see how you go then.
Michael V said:
kii said:
Van BadhamImagine being such a belly-crawling, grifting streak of garbage that you’d fleece the Australian tax-payer for a $200,000+ salary every year to NOT turn up to parliament and do your job as a senator – especially in a year where there are less parliamentary sitting days because there was an election on.
Imagine ALSO being such a poisonous, hypocritical and self-interested toad that you’d instead skip off to AMERICA to lick Donald Trump’s boots – and SLAG OFF AUSTRALIA and the Australians who have been paying your way for the last goddamn 30 YEARS in the time you were there.
And imagine being such a contemptuous, lip-licking eel that you’d have the gall to describe yourself as a “patriot” while you took your two-week holiday overseas.
Well, “Senator” Pauline Hanson IS that streak of garbage because that’s exactly what she did this week.
SOME NEWS: Patriots stand up for the institutions that represent this country and they fight every day to make them the best they can be.
They DON’T slither like a quisling overseas to crawl up the type of regime where masked secret police snatch citizens from the streets, where a President defies court orders to feed children and where the present“Administration” is so incompetent they can’t event manage to pay AIR-TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS.
Pauline, if you think Trump’s America is your kind of paradise, PAY BACK the Australian taxpayer every dollar you’ve taken from us over your useless three decades of bullshitting your voters and befouling AUSTRALIAN politics, pack your little suitcase and fucking move there.
Let’s see how “great” you think America is when you get hit with your first medical bill under the US system, love. Let’s see how you go then.
+1
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
kii said:
Van BadhamImagine being such a belly-crawling, grifting streak of garbage that you’d fleece the Australian tax-payer for a $200,000+ salary every year to NOT turn up to parliament and do your job as a senator – especially in a year where there are less parliamentary sitting days because there was an election on.
Imagine ALSO being such a poisonous, hypocritical and self-interested toad that you’d instead skip off to AMERICA to lick Donald Trump’s boots – and SLAG OFF AUSTRALIA and the Australians who have been paying your way for the last goddamn 30 YEARS in the time you were there.
And imagine being such a contemptuous, lip-licking eel that you’d have the gall to describe yourself as a “patriot” while you took your two-week holiday overseas.
Well, “Senator” Pauline Hanson IS that streak of garbage because that’s exactly what she did this week.
SOME NEWS: Patriots stand up for the institutions that represent this country and they fight every day to make them the best they can be.
They DON’T slither like a quisling overseas to crawl up the type of regime where masked secret police snatch citizens from the streets, where a President defies court orders to feed children and where the present“Administration” is so incompetent they can’t event manage to pay AIR-TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS.
Pauline, if you think Trump’s America is your kind of paradise, PAY BACK the Australian taxpayer every dollar you’ve taken from us over your useless three decades of bullshitting your voters and befouling AUSTRALIAN politics, pack your little suitcase and fucking move there.
Let’s see how “great” you think America is when you get hit with your first medical bill under the US system, love. Let’s see how you go then.
+1
They can have her and keep her. I really don’t see anything Australian in her policies.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
+1
They can have her and keep her. I really don’t see anything Australian in her policies.
^
Hanson might be trying to ward off the competition
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/neo-nazis-are-launching-the-white-australia-party-to-run-in-the-next-federal-election/
An Andrew Tate insider is helping Australian Nazis recruit teens
Nazis are in recruitment overdrive, targeting the young – and the rich. One of Andrew Tate’s right-hand men is helping them draw boys in.
By Sherryn Groch
November 1, 2025
A close friend of misogynist influencer Andrew Tate is part of an aggressive recruitment drive to draw rich and isolated teenagers into the ranks of Australia’s neo-Nazis.
An investigation by this masthead has found that a key member of the National Socialist Network (NSN) is one of Tate’s close associates – and that the Nazi organisation is using Tate-style propaganda videos to target vulnerable young men.
This masthead has obtained leaked communications, observed secret neo-Nazi meetings, and interviewed former members and families of those in the NSN to gain new insight into its recruiting playbook as neo-Nazi numbers climb around the country.
Those close to the group, and experts who track neo-Nazis in Australia, say that the NSN is increasingly targeting young men with access to money and influence as it seeks to boost its numbers and resources in the face of recent police crackdowns. Several young men from rich families have been brought into the fold recently, as have more ex-soldiers.
But the revelation that a key member of Tate’s inner circle has now joined the neo-Nazi group marks a dangerous escalation in tactics, experts say.
“There’s still this idea that they’re all uneducated Romper Stompers,” says political violence researcher Dr Imogen Richards of Deakin University. “Historically, neo-Nazis have recruited from disadvantage, but the NSN here have a different model.
“They’re deliberately cultivating elites. And now they’re using misogyny very explicitly as a recruiting tool.”
Porn stars, private jets and neo-Nazis
Among the NSN recruits recently unmasked by this masthead is porn star-turned-sex coach Stirling Cooper, who has been spotted at neo-Nazi training camps alongside teens and posing with the group’s flag.
But the Australian (whose real name is Nigel Clifford) is also part of Tate’s inner circle. A close friend and staunch defender of both Andrew and his brother Tristan, Cooper has regularly been pictured with the pair – on private jets smoking cigars and partying in exotic locales.
Neo-Nazi leadership are now telling followers to buy Cooper’s “sexual domination” courses to learn “how to make a white woman submit”.
Cooper was one of the “generals” in suits and sports cars who helped promote Tate’s exclusive “War Room”, where, for thousands of dollars a year, Tate’s top acolytes would learn the British-American influencer’s secret to getting rich.
Part of Tate’s secret, police allege, was luring women into sex work online in order to bankroll men in the War Room, and Andrew and Tristan Tate now face charges across multiple countries of rape, sex trafficking, and forming a criminal gang to enslave women. The Tates deny any wrongdoing, and Cooper and other men in the War Room have not been charged.
Footage, photos and insider accounts place Cooper at key neo-Nazi meetings in Australia in recent months, including in Western Australia alongside NSN leader Thomas Sewell and white supremacist Blair Cottrell, and at the group’s “national conference” in Victoria.
Although Cooper’s public views on women are not as extreme as Tate’s, he has been using Tate’s “affiliate marketing” blueprint to artificially flood social media with videos promoting his own sex courses (as well as a line of erectile supplements). The tactic – in which followers are paid commissions to edit and distribute his content in their feeds or on copycat accounts – caused Tate’s reach to hit millions (and thousands of paying subscribers) within months.
The NSN, which charges its acolytes to join, has recently opened its propaganda archives for supporters to spread its content in a similar way, without the commission. Cooper, Tate and NSN affiliate videos have all used a similar “fashwave” (fascist-wave) style of editing popular with the far right, and accounts posting them analysed by this masthead appeared to be run by young men.
TikTok is now flooded with NSN propaganda clips, says anti-fascist research group The White Rose Society.
One teenager told this masthead he joined the NSN “looking for a family” after surviving domestic violence as a kid and coming across “Nazi edits” on TikTok.
“They kinda had the same image as Tate of working out, the masculinity,” says the teen, who has since left the group.
He was drawn to the NSN’s “active club” model that promises a similar self-improvement route as “manosphere” influencers such as former kickboxer Tate, joining their fitness boot camps, camping trips and boxing matches.
“Within a few weeks of vetting, I was in,” says the former recruit. “At training, meetings, at ‘book club’ where they all read Mein Kampf. It was like grooming. And they started asking us all to make those videos too.”
Richards says this kind of extremist propaganda can be addictive, offering followers new buy-in with the group.
Young NSN member Michael “Mickle” Nelson has boasted of introducing Nazi TikTok and Fortnite dances into the group’s filmed stunts to “captivate the youth”. Some “NSN hype edits” have even been reposted by fringe politicians such as Senator Ralph Babet, Nelson has gloated. (Babet did not answer questions about why he posted one recent NSN video of their brawl with counter-protesters at an anti-immigration rally.)
Meanwhile, key NSN figure Joel Davis recently told his followers online: “Discussing Adolf Hitler with normies has literally never been this easy. I think they’ve been seeing the TikTok edits, lads.”
Last week, Davis also urged followers to post clips from his show with white supremacist Blair Cottrell. “That’s how Andrew Tate blew up,” Davis said. “He paid, like Romanians, $8 an hour to show his clips all over the internet and boom. So it’s a tried-and-true method.”
Cooper, who has hundreds of thousands of followers online, heavily promoted the August March for Australia rallies – which were secretly run by the NSN. Two former members say Cooper has donated money to those in the NSN and appeared close to leadership at meetings he attended.
Cooper did not respond to questions and multiple attempts by this masthead to contact him.
But in recent days, the “manosphere” influencer has posted online defending the NSN’s actions, sharing articles by its aligned news site, The Noticer, and floating the idea of running a charity boxing match between the neo-Nazi group and left-wing protesters.
As this masthead revealed links between anti-immigration influencer Hugo Lennon and the NSN last month, Cooper shared a photograph of himself with Lennon, along with a far-right American vlogger who took part in the January 6 capital riot and has also associated with the neo-Nazi group. The photo was captioned: “Exciting times ahead.”
Clipboards and car parks
Australia’s biggest neo-Nazi group is in recruiting overdrive. Analysis by this masthead and The White Rose Society suggests more than 100 new members have joined the NSN in the past year. “It’s more than we’ve seen before,” say White Rose researchers. “Some meet-ups have hit record numbers.”
All those new faces are what allowed the group to send so many “undercover Nazis” into the March for Australia rallies around the country on August 31, as revealed by this masthead, to control the crowd and antagonise counterprotesters. They tried the stunt again to a smaller degree at the second march on October 19.
But the main show this time was after the rally – when prospective recruits were sent directly to neo-Nazi vetting meetings held at secret locations around the country.
This masthead discovered the location of the Melbourne meeting in an inner-north car park and observed about 10 people run through ID checks with senior neo-Nazis holding clipboards, including convicted criminal Jimeone Roberts. Recruits were then given a second location to attend a “political seminar” introducing supporters to the NSN.
White Rose researchers say rallies have always been the NSN’s key recruiting ground – their numbers also swelled after pandemic-era anti-lockdown protests, and key leaders themselves met at far-right rallies down the years.
But, with many members – including Sewell – now facing serious charges for a string of violent assaults, NSN leaders have spoken of recruiting “younger” of late and looking to gain funding and legitimacy by starting a neo-Nazi political party.
Parents of young men in the NSN, who did not wish to be identified for safety reasons, said they felt Sewell had exploited their children’s mental health, social isolation, or underlying conditions to build what he has called his “army of autistics”.
“His thinking is so black and white, I’m worried what he could be persuaded to do,” said one parent, of their son. “It’s like there’s two of him. There’s the part that goes off as their soldier, and there’s my son who knows right from wrong. And that’s who I’m holding onto.”
In a video to followers earlier this year, Sewell claimed to have “recruited hundreds of autistic teenagers”. New-Zealand-born Sewell served two years in the army and has spoken of taking traumatised teens under his wing to “toughen them up”. He used to work with some of the state’s most vulnerable children for his job in residential care.
“Still, they don’t really care about us,” said one former member who called the group violent and “hypersexual”.
Some families said their sons had found neo-Nazis on gaming platforms, or incel forums (which promote hatred of women). For others, it was at their local gym.
But experts say the NSN’s reach has grown to the point where they no longer have to actively recruit. After stumbling across a TikTok video, recruits can then be funnelled to their local chapters for vetting by the NSN’s dedicated Telegram bot.
While the group has ties to proscribed international terror groups such as Combat 18, the Proud Boys, Atomwaffen Division and The Base, the NSN itself has not been banned in Australia.
“Get a white domestic slave”
How Stirling Cooper, the self-described “retired and repenting porn star”, joined the ranks of Australia’s neo-Nazis is unclear. According to his website, he studied chemistry at university in Western Australia and worked as a pharmaceutical research scientist before moving to Miami. These days, he is increasingly based back home in Australia, or else driving his Ferrari through the twisting streets of Marbella, Spain – a favourite tax haven of gangsters and oligarchs.
Since the Tates’ numerous arrests, Cooper has continued to defend the brothers and mix with their same circle of friends, often speaking of helping to carry out their plans, and discussing the Tates’ mission to get rich “running webcam models” with them on livestreams.
Chat logs from a closed group within Tate’s War Room, first leaked to the BBC and obtained by this masthead, further reveal Cooper’s apparent involvement. As early as June 2021, Tristan Tate had named Cooper and a mutual friend as collaborators in his webcam “mission”. The group, the Tates made clear, was an elite “PHD – or Pimpin’ Hoes Degree” to help men make money by grooming women into online sex work on the site OnlyFans.
Later, when Tristan told the chat how he regularly culled women from his “harem” who weren’t providing cash or status, an account linked to Cooper agreed. “I’ve become more ruthless with cutting women off if I’m only getting sex and nothing else,” it stated.
Further messages sent by the account detail Cooper’s interactions with a woman he said he was planning to put “on OnlyFans/Cam”, in which she thanked him for “beating the brat out of me”. In one exchange, Cooper questioned why the woman had been on another man’s yacht, writing: “If a mafia bosses girl was on someone’s boat, do you not think someone would get shot in the head?”
Cooper went on to detail for the other men in the War Room how he trained women, whom the group refer to as dragons, to believe their value lay in their “servitude”.
In the same chat, among the sea of sexist memes and pictures of guns, one teenage member celebrated getting their learner’s driving permit.
Leaked chat-logs from closed neo-Nazi Telegram groups in Australia obtained by this masthead reveal the NSN has also used grooming tactics on women to “test” their tolerance for Nazism. In an NSN chat that ran until February, members shared tips for “training” their partners to accept more and more racist views. One wrote his “current testing with ” had taken her “from TV-multyculty enjoyer to ‘it’s OK to be white’ in three days”.
In a recent livestream, the NSN’s Joel Davis ranted about “race traitors” dating non-white women because they “don’t know how to make a white woman submit”, telling followers: “Watch your Stirling Cooper videos, get skills and get a white domestic slave if that’s your thing.”
Andrew Tate and Stirling Cooper talk isolating women
In leaked recordings from inside Andrew Tate’s “university”, Stirling Cooper and Tate discuss with fellow manosphere influencer Justin Waller how to control women.
Online, Cooper’s videos echo Tate’s focus on controlling and “disciplining” women, and he has blamed perceived societal ills on women getting the right to vote.
In leaked videos from inside Tate’s “university”, Cooper and Tate discuss how to isolate women from their family and friends. Cooper asks Tate to talk about “restrictions and the boundaries you put on a woman in terms of who she can talk to, where she can go”.
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Meanwhile, Tate has been flirting with Nazism himself lately – questioning the Holocaust, performing Nazi salutes, spreading the false conspiracy of white replacement theory, even supporting white supremacist Tommy Robinson.
Yet, despite the NSN’s longstanding ban on women joining the group, neo-Nazis say they’re now “throwing a bone”. In the spirit of their recent recruiting drive, Davis invited women to the October 19 seminars so they could get involved “beyond just breeding”.
“Sew us some Australian flags,” he suggested.
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An Andrew Tate insider is helping Australian Nazis recruit teens
Nazis are in recruitment overdrive, targeting the young – and the rich. One of Andrew Tate’s right-hand men is helping them draw boys in.
By Sherryn Groch
November 1, 2025
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Aclose friend of misogynist influencer Andrew Tate is part of an aggressive recruitment drive to draw rich and isolated teenagers into the ranks of Australia’s neo-Nazis.
An investigation by this masthead has found that a key member of the National Socialist Network (NSN) is one of Tate’s close associates – and that the Nazi organisation is using Tate-style propaganda videos to target vulnerable young men.
Stirling Cooper and Andrew Tate.
Stirling Cooper and Andrew Tate.Credit:Monique Westermann
This masthead has obtained leaked communications, observed secret neo-Nazi meetings, and interviewed former members and families of those in the NSN to gain new insight into its recruiting playbook as neo-Nazi numbers climb around the country.
Those close to the group, and experts who track neo-Nazis in Australia, say that the NSN is increasingly targeting young men with access to money and influence as it seeks to boost its numbers and resources in the face of recent police crackdowns. Several young men from rich families have been brought into the fold recently, as have more ex-soldiers.
But the revelation that a key member of Tate’s inner circle has now joined the neo-Nazi group marks a dangerous escalation in tactics, experts say.
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“There’s still this idea that they’re all uneducated Romper Stompers,” says political violence researcher Dr Imogen Richards of Deakin University. “Historically, neo-Nazis have recruited from disadvantage, but the NSN here have a different model.
“They’re deliberately cultivating elites. And now they’re using misogyny very explicitly as a recruiting tool.”
Porn stars, private jets and neo-Nazis
Among the NSN recruits recently unmasked by this masthead is porn star-turned-sex coach Stirling Cooper, who has been spotted at neo-Nazi training camps alongside teens and posing with the group’s flag.
But the Australian (whose real name is Nigel Clifford) is also part of Tate’s inner circle. A close friend and staunch defender of both Andrew and his brother Tristan, Cooper has regularly been pictured with the pair – on private jets smoking cigars and partying in exotic locales.
Neo-Nazi leadership are now telling followers to buy Cooper’s “sexual domination” courses to learn “how to make a white woman submit”.
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Cooper was one of the “generals” in suits and sports cars who helped promote Tate’s exclusive “War Room”, where, for thousands of dollars a year, Tate’s top acolytes would learn the British-American influencer’s secret to getting rich.
Part of Tate’s secret, police allege, was luring women into sex work online in order to bankroll men in the War Room, and Andrew and Tristan Tate now face charges across multiple countries of rape, sex trafficking, and forming a criminal gang to enslave women. The Tates deny any wrongdoing, and Cooper and other men in the War Room have not been charged.
Footage, photos and insider accounts place Cooper at key neo-Nazi meetings in Australia in recent months, including in Western Australia alongside NSN leader Thomas Sewell and white supremacist Blair Cottrell, and at the group’s “national conference” in Victoria.
Sitrling Cooper (third from left) and others pose with the neo-Nazi flag created by Thomas Sewell.
Sitrling Cooper (third from left) and others pose with the neo-Nazi flag created by Thomas Sewell.Credit:The Age
Although Cooper’s public views on women are not as extreme as Tate’s, he has been using Tate’s “affiliate marketing” blueprint to artificially flood social media with videos promoting his own sex courses (as well as a line of erectile supplements). The tactic – in which followers are paid commissions to edit and distribute his content in their feeds or on copycat accounts – caused Tate’s reach to hit millions (and thousands of paying subscribers) within months.
The NSN, which charges its acolytes to join, has recently opened its propaganda archives for supporters to spread its content in a similar way, without the commission. Cooper, Tate and NSN affiliate videos have all used a similar “fashwave” (fascist-wave) style of editing popular with the far right, and accounts posting them analysed by this masthead appeared to be run by young men.
TikTok is now flooded with NSN propaganda clips, says anti-fascist research group The White Rose Society.
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One teenager told this masthead he joined the NSN “looking for a family” after surviving domestic violence as a kid and coming across “Nazi edits” on TikTok.
“They kinda had the same image as Tate of working out, the masculinity,” says the teen, who has since left the group.
He was drawn to the NSN’s “active club” model that promises a similar self-improvement route as “manosphere” influencers such as former kickboxer Tate, joining their fitness boot camps, camping trips and boxing matches.
“Within a few weeks of vetting, I was in,” says the former recruit. “At training, meetings, at ‘book club’ where they all read Mein Kampf. It was like grooming. And they started asking us all to make those videos too.”
Richards says this kind of extremist propaganda can be addictive, offering followers new buy-in with the group.
Young NSN member Michael “Mickle” Nelson has boasted of introducing Nazi TikTok and Fortnite dances into the group’s filmed stunts to “captivate the youth”. Some “NSN hype edits” have even been reposted by fringe politicians such as Senator Ralph Babet, Nelson has gloated. (Babet did not answer questions about why he posted one recent NSN video of their brawl with counter-protesters at an anti-immigration rally.)
Meanwhile, key NSN figure Joel Davis recently told his followers online: “Discussing Adolf Hitler with normies has literally never been this easy. I think they’ve been seeing the TikTok edits, lads.”
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Last week, Davis also urged followers to post clips from his show with white supremacist Blair Cottrell. “That’s how Andrew Tate blew up,” Davis said. “He paid, like Romanians, $8 an hour to show his clips all over the internet and boom. So it’s a tried-and-true method.”
Cooper, who has hundreds of thousands of followers online, heavily promoted the August March for Australia rallies – which were secretly run by the NSN. Two former members say Cooper has donated money to those in the NSN and appeared close to leadership at meetings he attended.
Cooper did not respond to questions and multiple attempts by this masthead to contact him.
But in recent days, the “manosphere” influencer has posted online defending the NSN’s actions, sharing articles by its aligned news site, The Noticer, and floating the idea of running a charity boxing match between the neo-Nazi group and left-wing protesters.
Stirling Cooper (left) posted a picture of himself in September with far-right influencers Hugo Lennon (centre) and Elijah Schaffer.
Stirling Cooper (left) posted a picture of himself in September with far-right influencers Hugo Lennon (centre) and Elijah Schaffer.Credit:X
As this masthead revealed links between anti-immigration influencer Hugo Lennon and the NSN last month, Cooper shared a photograph of himself with Lennon, along with a far-right American vlogger who took part in the January 6 capital riot and has also associated with the neo-Nazi group. The photo was captioned: “Exciting times ahead.”
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Australia’s biggest neo-Nazi group is in recruiting overdrive. Analysis by this masthead and The White Rose Society suggests more than 100 new members have joined the NSN in the past year. “It’s more than we’ve seen before,” say White Rose researchers. “Some meet-ups have hit record numbers.”
All those new faces are what allowed the group to send so many “undercover Nazis” into the March for Australia rallies around the country on August 31, as revealed by this masthead, to control the crowd and antagonise counterprotesters. They tried the stunt again to a smaller degree at the second march on October 19.
But the main show this time was after the rally – when prospective recruits were sent directly to neo-Nazi vetting meetings held at secret locations around the country.
This masthead discovered the location of the Melbourne meeting in an inner-north car park and observed about 10 people run through ID checks with senior neo-Nazis holding clipboards, including convicted criminal Jimeone Roberts. Recruits were then given a second location to attend a “political seminar” introducing supporters to the NSN.
Jimeone Roberts (front, with clipboard) and other neo-Nazis ran a secret vetting session for prospective members in a north-west Melbourne car park on October 19 after the March for Australia rallies.
Jimeone Roberts (front, with clipboard) and other neo-Nazis ran a secret vetting session for prospective members in a north-west Melbourne car park on October 19 after the March for Australia rallies.Credit:The Age
White Rose researchers say rallies have always been the NSN’s key recruiting ground – their numbers also swelled after pandemic-era anti-lockdown protests, and key leaders themselves met at far-right rallies down the years.
But, with many members – including Sewell – now facing serious charges for a string of violent assaults, NSN leaders have spoken of recruiting “younger” of late and looking to gain funding and legitimacy by starting a neo-Nazi political party.
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Parents of young men in the NSN, who did not wish to be identified for safety reasons, said they felt Sewell had exploited their children’s mental health, social isolation, or underlying conditions to build what he has called his “army of autistics”.
“His thinking is so black and white, I’m worried what he could be persuaded to do,” said one parent, of their son. “It’s like there’s two of him. There’s the part that goes off as their soldier, and there’s my son who knows right from wrong. And that’s who I’m holding onto.”
In a video to followers earlier this year, Sewell claimed to have “recruited hundreds of autistic teenagers”. New-Zealand-born Sewell served two years in the army and has spoken of taking traumatised teens under his wing to “toughen them up”. He used to work with some of the state’s most vulnerable children for his job in residential care.
“Still, they don’t really care about us,” said one former member who called the group violent and “hypersexual”.
Some families said their sons had found neo-Nazis on gaming platforms, or incel forums (which promote hatred of women). For others, it was at their local gym.
But experts say the NSN’s reach has grown to the point where they no longer have to actively recruit. After stumbling across a TikTok video, recruits can then be funnelled to their local chapters for vetting by the NSN’s dedicated Telegram bot.
While the group has ties to proscribed international terror groups such as Combat 18, the Proud Boys, Atomwaffen Division and The Base, the NSN itself has not been banned in Australia.
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“Get a white domestic slave”
How Stirling Cooper, the self-described “retired and repenting porn star”, joined the ranks of Australia’s neo-Nazis is unclear. According to his website, he studied chemistry at university in Western Australia and worked as a pharmaceutical research scientist before moving to Miami. These days, he is increasingly based back home in Australia, or else driving his Ferrari through the twisting streets of Marbella, Spain – a favourite tax haven of gangsters and oligarchs.
Stirling Cooper, pictured here with Tristan Tate (right), has repeatedly defended the Tate brothers after their arrest on sex trafficking charges.
Stirling Cooper, pictured here with Tristan Tate (right), has repeatedly defended the Tate brothers after their arrest on sex trafficking charges.Credit:Instagram
Since the Tates’ numerous arrests, Cooper has continued to defend the brothers and mix with their same circle of friends, often speaking of helping to carry out their plans, and discussing the Tates’ mission to get rich “running webcam models” with them on livestreams.
Chat logs from a closed group within Tate’s War Room, first leaked to the BBC and obtained by this masthead, further reveal Cooper’s apparent involvement. As early as June 2021, Tristan Tate had named Cooper and a mutual friend as collaborators in his webcam “mission”. The group, the Tates made clear, was an elite “PHD – or Pimpin’ Hoes Degree” to help men make money by grooming women into online sex work on the site OnlyFans.
Later, when Tristan told the chat how he regularly culled women from his “harem” who weren’t providing cash or status, an account linked to Cooper agreed. “I’ve become more ruthless with cutting women off if I’m only getting sex and nothing else,” it stated.
Stirling Cooper (second from left) has appeared with Andrew Tate (in sunglasses) and influencer Justin Waller on the Fresh and Fit podcast, co-hosted by Myron Gaines (left), which has been criticised for platforming antisemitic views.
Stirling Cooper (second from left) has appeared with Andrew Tate (in sunglasses) and influencer Justin Waller on the Fresh and Fit podcast, co-hosted by Myron Gaines (left), which has been criticised for platforming antisemitic views.Credit:Fresh and Fit podcast
Further messages sent by the account detail Cooper’s interactions with a woman he said he was planning to put “on OnlyFans/Cam”, in which she thanked him for “beating the brat out of me”. In one exchange, Cooper questioned why the woman had been on another man’s yacht, writing: “If a mafia bosses girl was on someone’s boat, do you not think someone would get shot in the head?”
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Cooper went on to detail for the other men in the War Room how he trained women, whom the group refer to as dragons, to believe their value lay in their “servitude”.
In the same chat, among the sea of sexist memes and pictures of guns, one teenage member celebrated getting their learner’s driving permit.
Leaked chat-logs from closed neo-Nazi Telegram groups in Australia obtained by this masthead reveal the NSN has also used grooming tactics on women to “test” their tolerance for Nazism. In an NSN chat that ran until February, members shared tips for “training” their partners to accept more and more racist views. One wrote his “current testing with ” had taken her “from TV-multyculty enjoyer to ‘it’s OK to be white’ in three days”.
In a recent livestream, the NSN’s Joel Davis ranted about “race traitors” dating non-white women because they “don’t know how to make a white woman submit”, telling followers: “Watch your Stirling Cooper videos, get skills and get a white domestic slave if that’s your thing.”
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Online, Cooper’s videos echo Tate’s focus on controlling and “disciplining” women, and he has blamed perceived societal ills on women getting the right to vote.
In leaked videos from inside Tate’s “university”, Cooper and Tate discuss how to isolate women from their family and friends. Cooper asks Tate to talk about “restrictions and the boundaries you put on a woman in terms of who she can talk to, where she can go”.
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Meanwhile, Tate has been flirting with Nazism himself lately – questioning the Holocaust, performing Nazi salutes, spreading the false conspiracy of white replacement theory, even supporting white supremacist Tommy Robinson.
Yet, despite the NSN’s longstanding ban on women joining the group, neo-Nazis say they’re now “throwing a bone”. In the spirit of their recent recruiting drive, Davis invited women to the October 19 seminars so they could get involved “beyond just breeding”.
“Sew us some Australian flags,” he suggested.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/an-andrew-tate-insider-is-helping-australian-nazis-recruit-teens-20250523-p5m1ra.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
An Andrew Tate insider is helping Australian Nazis recruit teens
Nazis are in recruitment overdrive, targeting the young – and the rich. One of Andrew Tate’s right-hand men is helping them draw boys in.By Sherryn Groch
November 1, 2025
A close friend of misogynist influencer Andrew Tate is part of an aggressive recruitment drive to draw rich and isolated teenagers into the ranks of Australia’s neo-Nazis.
———————————-etc——————snip————————————-
https://www.theage.com.au/national/an-andrew-tate-insider-is-helping-australian-nazis-recruit-teens-20250523-p5m1ra.html
Pharque!
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
An Andrew Tate insider is helping Australian Nazis recruit teens
Nazis are in recruitment overdrive, targeting the young – and the rich. One of Andrew Tate’s right-hand men is helping them draw boys in.By Sherryn Groch
November 1, 2025
A close friend of misogynist influencer Andrew Tate is part of an aggressive recruitment drive to draw rich and isolated teenagers into the ranks of Australia’s neo-Nazis.
———————————-etc——————snip————————————-
https://www.theage.com.au/national/an-andrew-tate-insider-is-helping-australian-nazis-recruit-teens-20250523-p5m1ra.html
Pharque!
Why can’t they join some other cult like Amway
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
An Andrew Tate insider is helping Australian Nazis recruit teens
Nazis are in recruitment overdrive, targeting the young – and the rich. One of Andrew Tate’s right-hand men is helping them draw boys in.By Sherryn Groch
November 1, 2025
A close friend of misogynist influencer Andrew Tate is part of an aggressive recruitment drive to draw rich and isolated teenagers into the ranks of Australia’s neo-Nazis.
———————————-etc——————snip————————————-
https://www.theage.com.au/national/an-andrew-tate-insider-is-helping-australian-nazis-recruit-teens-20250523-p5m1ra.html
Pharque!
Why can’t they join some other cult like Amway
funny thing is Nigel Clifford is one of my friends on FB.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
An Andrew Tate insider is helping Australian Nazis recruit teens
Nazis are in recruitment overdrive, targeting the young – and the rich. One of Andrew Tate’s right-hand men is helping them draw boys in.By Sherryn Groch
November 1, 2025
A close friend of misogynist influencer Andrew Tate is part of an aggressive recruitment drive to draw rich and isolated teenagers into the ranks of Australia’s neo-Nazis.
———————————-etc——————snip————————————-
https://www.theage.com.au/national/an-andrew-tate-insider-is-helping-australian-nazis-recruit-teens-20250523-p5m1ra.html
Pharque!
Why can’t they join some other cult like Amway
FIIK
Bogsnorkler said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:Pharque!
Why can’t they join some other cult like Amway
funny thing is Nigel Clifford is one of my friends on FB.
Read his TATE page and was wondering what he had to do with neo-nazis.
So finally I read the Age link.
Michael V said:
FIIK
Hah. I saw that on a number plate today. Dunno how it got past the regulators.
Kingy said:
Michael V said:FIIK
Hah. I saw that on a number plate today. Dunno how it got past the regulators.
:)
Kingy said:
Michael V said:FIIK
Hah. I saw that on a number plate today.
DunnoFIIK how it got past the regulators.
Fixed…
furious said:
Kingy said:
Michael V said:FIIK
Hah. I saw that on a number plate today.
DunnoFIIK how it got past the regulators.Fixed…
Ha!
Well done.
:)
Kingy said:
Michael V said:FIIK
Hah. I saw that on a number plate today. Dunno how it got past the regulators.
There’s a car found here with N4ZI as it’s numberplate.
Divine Angel said:
Kingy said:
Michael V said:FIIK
Hah. I saw that on a number plate today. Dunno how it got past the regulators.
There’s a car found here with N4ZI as it’s numberplate.
Does it have lots of key scratches? Often have a flat tyre? Perhaps it should…
Divine Angel said:
Kingy said:
Michael V said:FIIK
Hah. I saw that on a number plate today. Dunno how it got past the regulators.
There’s a car found here with N4ZI as it’s numberplate.
Bloody!
Bogsnorkler said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:Pharque!
Why can’t they join some other cult like Amway
funny thing is Nigel Clifford is one of my friends on FB.
Something something company you keep
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Kingy said:Hah. I saw that on a number plate today. Dunno how it got past the regulators.
There’s a car found here with N4ZI as it’s numberplate.
Bloody!
A mate of mine owned a few cafe’s by the name of Frig, after the Viking mother god or something. He tried to get FRIG number plates for the company car but Queensland Transport rejected it as being potentially rude. He explained that the word FRIG would be in large letters on the car but they wouldn’t budge.
Divine Angel said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Divine Angel said:Why can’t they join some other cult like Amway
funny thing is Nigel Clifford is one of my friends on FB.
Something something company you keep
I shall have to ask him about his second life if he is at our brookie hall chrissie do.
:-)
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:There’s a car found here with N4ZI as it’s numberplate.
Bloody!
A mate of mine owned a few cafe’s by the name of Frig, after the Viking mother god or something. He tried to get FRIG number plates for the company car but Queensland Transport rejected it as being potentially rude. He explained that the word FRIG would be in large letters on the car but they wouldn’t budge.
Frigging bar-stewards!
Bogsnorkler said:
Divine Angel said:
Bogsnorkler said:funny thing is Nigel Clifford is one of my friends on FB.
Something something company you keep
I shall have to ask him about his second life if he is at our brookie hall chrissie do.
:-)
Who is this Nigel Clifford, of whom you write?
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Divine Angel said:Something something company you keep
I shall have to ask him about his second life if he is at our brookie hall chrissie do.
:-)
Who is this Nigel Clifford, of whom you write?
go back in time and read witty’s post.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:I shall have to ask him about his second life if he is at our brookie hall chrissie do.
:-)
Who is this Nigel Clifford, of whom you write?
go back in time and read witty’s post.
I read that.
https://antonygreen.com.au/fed2025-evidence-on-labor-supporters-voting-strategically-for-independents/
Good read for nerds
I think Australian has some sophisticated voters
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“These laws have been criticised by every major environment and climate group, but welcomed by the likes of BHP, Chevron and the BCA. This shows exactly who the laws are written for.
“It is now up to the Prime Minister to decide if he wants to again let mining and logging lobbyists and their political representatives like Roger Cook run the show, or if he wants to protect nature, forests and our climate.”
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
An Andrew Tate insider is helping Australian Nazis recruit teens
Nazis are in recruitment overdrive, targeting the young – and the rich. One of Andrew Tate’s right-hand men is helping them draw boys in.By Sherryn Groch
November 1, 2025
A close friend of misogynist influencer Andrew Tate is part of an aggressive recruitment drive to draw rich and isolated teenagers into the ranks of Australia’s neo-Nazis.
———————————-etc——————snip————————————-
https://www.theage.com.au/national/an-andrew-tate-insider-is-helping-australian-nazis-recruit-teens-20250523-p5m1ra.html
Pharque!
Nazis are sickos.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
An Andrew Tate insider is helping Australian Nazis recruit teens
Nazis are in recruitment overdrive, targeting the young – and the rich. One of Andrew Tate’s right-hand men is helping them draw boys in.By Sherryn Groch
November 1, 2025
A close friend of misogynist influencer Andrew Tate is part of an aggressive recruitment drive to draw rich and isolated teenagers into the ranks of Australia’s neo-Nazis.
———————————-etc——————snip————————————-
https://www.theage.com.au/national/an-andrew-tate-insider-is-helping-australian-nazis-recruit-teens-20250523-p5m1ra.html
Pharque!
Nazis are sickos.
That keep popping up like a bad smell.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
An Andrew Tate insider is helping Australian Nazis recruit teens
Nazis are in recruitment overdrive, targeting the young – and the rich. One of Andrew Tate’s right-hand men is helping them draw boys in.By Sherryn Groch
November 1, 2025
A close friend of misogynist influencer Andrew Tate is part of an aggressive recruitment drive to draw rich and isolated teenagers into the ranks of Australia’s neo-Nazis.
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https://www.theage.com.au/national/an-andrew-tate-insider-is-helping-australian-nazis-recruit-teens-20250523-p5m1ra.html
Pharque!
Nazis are sickos.
We need a govenment paid ad to tell nazis to get professional counselling.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:Pharque!
Nazis are sickos.
We need a govenment paid ad to tell nazis to get professional counselling.
Are you a nazi get help now call 📞 now
dv said:
https://antonygreen.com.au/fed2025-evidence-on-labor-supporters-voting-strategically-for-independents/Good read for nerds
I think Australian has some sophisticated voters
Perhaps you mean you think Australia has some citizens who actually have bothered to learn how the system works. We do have some that haven’t, though.
Graham Richardson has died
dv said:
Graham Richardson has died
Sounds like a nasty way to go, flu + pneumonia.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Graham Richardson has diedSounds like a nasty way to go, flu + pneumonia.
Fairly common. Pneumonia was called The Old Man’s Friend in the olden days.
>>Princess Anne has touched down in Sydney ahead of her royal tour of the nation this week.
I’ll put on my best dress thongs, rubs hands.
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Princess Anne has touched down in Sydney ahead of her royal tour of the nation this week.I’ll put on my best dress thongs, rubs hands.
Here she is telling Daddy to sod off, 1950.
dv said:
Well done.
Meantime we get footy stadiums while our hospitals are near to collapse.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Well done.
Meantime we get footy stadiums while our hospitals are near to collapse.
bastard communists and their public health care
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Graham Richardson has died
Sounds like a nasty way to go, flu + pneumonia.
Fairly common. Pneumonia was called The Old Man’s Friend in the olden days.
so it’s a pleasant ¿ way to go then
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Princess Anne has touched down in Sydney ahead of her royal tour of the nation this week.I’ll put on my best dress thongs, rubs hands.
Here she is telling Daddy to sod off, 1950.
Is that Phil the Greek with the King Mother there?
Liberal Senator Andrew Bragg has confirmed he would resign from the Coalition frontbench if the parties walked away from the Paris Agreement and pushed back against the move within the Liberals to follow the Nationals and ditch net zero.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/you-can-t-have-a-fatwa-on-two-words-bragg-insists-liberals-must-keep-net-zero-20251109-p5n8tk.html
dv said:
Liberal Senator Andrew Bragg has confirmed he would resign from the Coalition frontbench if the parties walked away from the Paris Agreement and pushed back against the move within the Liberals to follow the Nationals and ditch net zero.https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/you-can-t-have-a-fatwa-on-two-words-bragg-insists-liberals-must-keep-net-zero-20251109-p5n8tk.html
Good.
roughbarked said:
so the opposition eh, are these opposition also going to condemn genocide
Barnaby Joyce provides further proof that he best serves the nation when he’s lying drunk on a footpath somewhere:
ABC News:
captain_spalding said:
Barnaby Joyce provides further proof that he best serves the nation when he’s lying drunk on a footpath somewhere:ABC News:
Heh.
captain_spalding said:
Barnaby Joyce provides further proof that he best serves the nation when he’s lying drunk on a footpath somewhere:ABC News:
For those “following live” : go out and touch some grass. Organise your sock drawer. Wash your hair. Do a uni assignment. There’s tons of better ways to waste your time other than watching Barnaby Joyce have a whinge about something.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
Barnaby Joyce provides further proof that he best serves the nation when he’s lying drunk on a footpath somewhere:ABC News:
For those “following live” : go out and touch some grass. Organise your sock drawer. Wash your hair. Do a uni assignment. There’s tons of better ways to waste your time other than watching Barnaby Joyce have a whinge about something.
Goes off to wash hair (and all the rest of me).
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
Barnaby Joyce provides further proof that he best serves the nation when he’s lying drunk on a footpath somewhere:ABC News:
For those “following live” : go out and touch some grass. Organise your sock drawer. Wash your hair. Do a uni assignment. There’s tons of better ways to waste your time other than watching Barnaby Joyce have a whinge about something.
Don’t ye worry yourself too much. I’ll not be watching him live or dead for that matter.
captain_spalding said:
Barnaby Joyce provides further proof that he best serves the nation when he’s lying drunk on a footpath somewhere:ABC News:
Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:
Barnaby Joyce provides further proof that he best serves the nation when he’s lying drunk on a footpath somewhere:ABC News:
I think he walked into that planter and fell over backwards.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:
Barnaby Joyce provides further proof that he best serves the nation when he’s lying drunk on a footpath somewhere:ABC News:
I think he walked into that planter and fell over backwards.
Way over the limit for safe walking.
Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:
Barnaby Joyce provides further proof that he best serves the nation when he’s lying drunk on a footpath somewhere:ABC News:
That’s what happens when your drunk and on the phone at the same time.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
Barnaby Joyce provides further proof that he best serves the nation when he’s lying drunk on a footpath somewhere:ABC News:
For those “following live” : go out and touch some grass. Organise your sock drawer. Wash your hair. Do a uni assignment. There’s tons of better ways to waste your time other than watching Barnaby Joyce have a whinge about something.
I dunno, it’s something of a spectacle, almost a tragedy, like the gradual obsolesence and dereliction of a once notable ship.
Barnaby, largely through his own efforts (or lack thereof), gradually loses relevance, purpose, and sense,
One day, he may be towed out to sea, and sunk as an artificial reef.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/10/gough-whitlams-dismissal-a-calculated-plot-to-remove-elected-government-via-partisan-ambush-pm-says
Gough Whitlam’s dismissal ‘a calculated plot’ to remove elected government via partisan ambush, PM says
Albanese says ‘old suffocating conservatism’ of Menzies era reached out of its political grave to remove a government chosen by voters
dv said:
Gough Whitlam’s dismissal ‘a calculated plot’ to remove elected government via partisan ambush, PM says
Albanese says ‘old suffocating conservatism’ of Menzies era reached out of its political grave to remove a government chosen by voters
wait are we about to start pushing back against medieval imperialist monarchic overreach again
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxRcmeoiSsJvJo4vTXuJsCAPsA0JzXasJ&si=_jt0IzN5h75MWyIQ
A series of 19 videos by Anne Twomey on the events leading up to the Dismissal.
There’s an enormous amount of detail and analysis here, well worth if the topic interests you.
It’s about 6 hours of content.
dv said:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxRcmeoiSsJvJo4vTXuJsCAPsA0JzXasJ&si=_jt0IzN5h75MWyIQA series of 19 videos by Anne Twomey on the events leading up to the Dismissal.
There’s an enormous amount of detail and analysis here, well worth if the topic interests you.
It’s about 6 hours of content.
I’ve been watching most segments over the last month or two as they were released in smaller half-hour episodes. Probably haven’t seen the whole series yet. But 6 hours straight is a bit too much for me.
party_pants said:
dv said:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxRcmeoiSsJvJo4vTXuJsCAPsA0JzXasJ&si=_jt0IzN5h75MWyIQA series of 19 videos by Anne Twomey on the events leading up to the Dismissal.
There’s an enormous amount of detail and analysis here, well worth if the topic interests you.
It’s about 6 hours of content.I’ve been watching most segments over the last month or two as they were released in smaller half-hour episodes. Probably haven’t seen the whole series yet. But 6 hours straight is a bit too much for me.
Well you don’t have to watch them all in a go…
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxRcmeoiSsJvJo4vTXuJsCAPsA0JzXasJ&si=_jt0IzN5h75MWyIQA series of 19 videos by Anne Twomey on the events leading up to the Dismissal.
There’s an enormous amount of detail and analysis here, well worth if the topic interests you.
It’s about 6 hours of content.I’ve been watching most segments over the last month or two as they were released in smaller half-hour episodes. Probably haven’t seen the whole series yet. But 6 hours straight is a bit too much for me.
Well you don’t have to watch them all in a go…
The pause button,
Kerr’s letter withdrawing Whitlam’s commission.
TIL of this use of the word ‘determine’. According to the OED, this was the first meaning of the word, dating from the 15th century, but “Now chiefly in Law”.
transitive. To put an end to (in time); to bring to an end; to end, conclude, terminate.
dv said:
Kerr’s letter withdrawing Whitlam’s commission.
TIL of this use of the word ‘determine’. According to the OED, this was the first meaning of the word, dating from the 15th century, but “Now chiefly in Law”.
transitive. To put an end to (in time); to bring to an end; to end, conclude, terminate.
It was sorted out democratically, of the people and by the people in the end.
So all good.
dv said:
Kerr’s letter withdrawing Whitlam’s commission.
TIL of this use of the word ‘determine’. According to the OED, this was the first meaning of the word, dating from the 15th century, but “Now chiefly in Law”.
transitive. To put an end to (in time); to bring to an end; to end, conclude, terminate.
so determinate should be dedeterminate
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Kerr’s letter withdrawing Whitlam’s commission.
TIL of this use of the word ‘determine’. According to the OED, this was the first meaning of the word, dating from the 15th century, but “Now chiefly in Law”.
transitive. To put an end to (in time); to bring to an end; to end, conclude, terminate.so determinate should be dedeterminate
That’s indeterminate.
Peak Warming Man said:
SCIENCE said:dv said:
Kerr’s letter withdrawing Whitlam’s commission.
TIL of this use of the word ‘determine’. According to the OED, this was the first meaning of the word, dating from the 15th century, but “Now chiefly in Law”.
transitive. To put an end to (in time); to bring to an end; to end, conclude, terminate.so determinate should be dedeterminate
That’s indeterminate.
it sounds like a group of daleks having a discussion.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
SCIENCE said:
so determinate should be dedeterminate
That’s indeterminate.
it sounds like a group of daleks having a discussion.
well the prefix ex- is the opposite of in- but so is de- so
always knew the communist Australian healthcare system was backwards
guess reading in the mirror is one of the skills they teach healthcare workers
SCIENCE said:
always knew the communist Australian healthcare system was backwards
guess reading in the mirror is one of the skills they teach healthcare workers
A significant proportion of ABC news images are reversed. I have no idea why, but it is very annoying.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:always knew the communist Australian healthcare system was backwards
guess reading in the mirror is one of the skills they teach healthcare workers
A significant proportion of ABC news images are reversed. I have no idea why, but it is very annoying.
How do you reverse a digital image other than by flipping it intentionally?
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
always knew the communist Australian healthcare system was backwards
guess reading in the mirror is one of the skills they teach healthcare workers
A significant proportion of ABC news images are reversed. I have no idea why, but it is very annoying.
How do you reverse a digital image other than by flipping it intentionally?
we assume much of the time it’s some default setting for the self-facing camera on a combination phone handheld device but we agree with Michael V some of them don’t seem to be selfie snaps
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
A significant proportion of ABC news images are reversed. I have no idea why, but it is very annoying.
How do you reverse a digital image other than by flipping it intentionally?
we assume much of the time it’s some default setting for the self-facing camera on a combination phone handheld device but we agree with Michael V some of them don’t seem to be selfie snaps
Having never investigated taking selfies, know nothing about how they work.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:always knew the communist Australian healthcare system was backwards
guess reading in the mirror is one of the skills they teach healthcare workers
A significant proportion of ABC news images are reversed. I have no idea why, but it is very annoying.
How do you reverse a digital image other than by flipping it intentionally?
I really don’t know. Nor do I know how during the editorial process, the error is not corrected.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
How do you reverse a digital image other than by flipping it intentionally?
we assume much of the time it’s some default setting for the self-facing camera on a combination phone handheld device but we agree with Michael V some of them don’t seem to be selfie snaps
Having never investigated taking selfies, know nothing about how they work.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
we assume much of the time it’s some default setting for the self-facing camera on a combination phone handheld device but we agree with Michael V some of them don’t seem to be selfie snaps
Having never investigated taking selfies, know nothing about how they work.
Thanks but that still doesn’t mean I’ll ever bother using it.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:always knew the communist Australian healthcare system was backwards
guess reading in the mirror is one of the skills they teach healthcare workers
A significant proportion of ABC news images are reversed. I have no idea why, but it is very annoying.
How do you reverse a digital image other than by flipping it intentionally?
It can depend on the camera in your phone. A normal photo will be correct but a selfie will be reversed sometimes.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
A significant proportion of ABC news images are reversed. I have no idea why, but it is very annoying.
How do you reverse a digital image other than by flipping it intentionally?
we assume much of the time it’s some default setting for the self-facing camera on a combination phone handheld device but we agree with Michael V some of them don’t seem to be selfie snaps
I wonder if his face is reversed as well
The former prime minister Paul Keating says he advised Gough Whitlam to arrest the then governor general Sir John Kerr at the height of the dismissal saga, calling the incident a “coup” from which Australian politics “never really recovered”.
Keating, recently promoted to a junior ministry position in the Labor government when Prime Minister Whitlam was dismissed on 11 November 1975, said Kerr should have been detained by officers of the law, but admitted he was concerned about a potential standoff between military and police.
“My proposition was that Gough should ask the queen to accept his advice to appoint a new governor general,” Keating said in an interview with the journalist Niki Savva, to mark half a century since the dismissal.
“In the event that Kerr resisted, I said to Gough he should be put under police arrest.”…
Nice one¡
National Capital Authority stepped in, trying to revoke the lease. That generated a tricky diplomatic situation, and court action. Ultimately, Russia won its challenge in the Federal Court. But it all ended when parliament rushed through a law revoking the lease. At the time, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said there had been advice from security agencies that the siting of the embassy was potentially a national security threat. It was that act that prompted the High Court challenge, with lawyers for Russia arguing the law was unconstitutional. But the Commonwealth said there was support to make such a law within the constitution, especially in the circumstances.
So… if the international rules-based order doesn’t suit yousr agenda, just change the rules¡
cancel culture
so stating facts is not protected freedom of speech these days
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Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Kerr’s letter withdrawing Whitlam’s commission.
TIL of this use of the word ‘determine’. According to the OED, this was the first meaning of the word, dating from the 15th century, but “Now chiefly in Law”.
transitive. To put an end to (in time); to bring to an end; to end, conclude, terminate.It was sorted out democratically, of the people and by the people in the end.
So all good.
I’m no constitutional expert or historian but the following seems to be the common view.
The Westminster system relies on convention as much as statute. There’s no law for instance mandating the provision of “pairs” in the event of the illness or absence of opposing members, but without this convention we’d end with each side trying to ratfuck each other to take advantage of a temporary change in numbers, as happens in the USA.
Filling casual senate vacancies with members of the same party as the decedent or departee was one such convention. The Coalition’s decision to breach this convention was a disgrace and made Australian politics worse. Ultimately this requirement was made law by the 1977 referendum. It seems it was driven more by the leadership in the Senate, rather than Snedden/Fraser.
The Senate blocking supply specifically to force an election is also something that’s never been done before or since and hopefully never will. This wasn’t in order to negotiate some specific policy: the Coalition was quite plain about the fact that the only change that would convince them to allow supply would be the calling of a House and half-senate election, or a DD, even though they were only a year into Whitlam’s second term. They sought to capitalise on the ALP’s potentially tenporary political troubles.
These antics are something we’d expect in the US but not in Australia. There have been plenty of times where the Senate has been controlled by a different party from the House and the governing party is down in the polls, and certainly the Senate has played hardball with regard to particular pieces of legislation but it’s impossible to imagine any modern opposition leader threatening to send Australia into chaos by cutting the supply of money to government departments just to cynically engineer an early election. Abbott could have done it during Gillard’s reign, or Shorten during Abbott’s, but the idea was never entertained.
For Whitlam’s part, the ALP’s political troubles were mainly avoidable self-inflicted wounds. The Loans Affair happened on his watch and also involved a shocking breach of norms. That’s some Iran-Contra style shit. Politics is tough but sometimes you have to accept that your ambitions will be thwarted.
He also repeatedly stated that the GG had no choice to follow the PM’s advice in all things. This is plainly not true, and this arrogant attempt to nullify the reserve powers misled his followers, and possibly pissed off Kerr. Did Whitlam believe it? He was a smart man who prided himself on the breadth of his knowledge so I assume he’d perused the constitution at some stage.
Either way, he appears to have been genuinely surprised when he went to the GG to request a half-senate election with no agreement for supply to at least cover the election period, and Kerr instead withdrew his commission. There is no way in a million years that a GG would allow an election knowing the money was going to run dry while the votes were being counted.
There has been a tendency to portray Kerr as an entitled conservative toff in cahoots with the Coalition, but unlike Whitlam he had very humble working class origins. His guiding light as a jurist was H.V. Evatt, the former Labor deputy PM and High Court Justice. Kerr was indeed an ALP member while Evatt was leader. Whitlam appointed Kerr as Governor General believing that he could be relied on in a crunch, but Kerr was already of the opinion that the GG was an active rather than ceremonial role.
There don’t seem to be many people who think he handled the crisis well. The common view seems to be that he needed to warn Whitlam that dismissal was a possibility and tell him explicitly that he would never agree to an election without supply guaranteed for the election period. This advice may have resulted in his own dismissal but these things happen, it’s not as though he needed the job. Kerr may have been motivated by the fact that his dismissal and replacement didn’t really solve the issue. Even if the new GG was an absolute stooge and agreed to a halfsenate election with no supply, Australia still goes into chaos as departments run out of money while the government is in caretaker mode. And frankly, there is no reason to think that a halfsenate election would have cured Whitlam’s problems: quite probably the ALP would have gone backwards.
Kerr was in communication with the Palace in the period before the dismissal. Martin Charteris, famed secretary to the Queen, advised him not to use the reserve powers to resolve what remained basically a political problem, as they were only to be used as genuine last resort.
He did have the option to just let matters play out without resort to these powers. Maybe the Liberals would have lost that game of chicken. In fairness it seems likely the days of the Whitlam government were numbered no matter what Kerr did.
I mainly blame the Liberals for their extraordinary use of the Senate in the two ways I’ve described above. One of these issues has been resolved through a referendum in 1977. The other (the ability of an opposing senate to withhold supply indefinitely without cause to force an early election) remains a theoretical possibility.
BTW the reason that Whitlam preferred to hold only a half-senate election was that it might have flushed the two non-Labor senators who had been appointed to replace Labor senators (Cleaver Bunton and Albert Field). Additionally, this would have been the first election since the legislative election that gave senators to the territories, and he may have hoped that 3 of the 4 territorial senators may have been Labor.
fucking hell
SCIENCE said:
fucking hell
What about Chinese patients, what’s their waiting time like?
dv said:
He did have the option to just let matters play out without resort to these powers. Maybe the Liberals would have lost that game of chicken. In fairness it seems likely the days of the Whitlam government were numbered no matter what Kerr did.
I mainly blame the Liberals for their extraordinary use of the Senate in the two ways I’ve described above. One of these issues has been resolved through a referendum in 1977. The other (the ability of an opposing senate to withhold supply indefinitely without cause to force an early election) remains a theoretical possibility.
I agree that ‘the Loans Affair’ was a disaster for Whitlam and his government. It was, to a large degree, a crisis of perception. Some people in the government were sticking their bibs in where they had no business doing so, largely to simply try to big-note themselves, and not following at least some of the rules.
It wasn’t as bas as all that, but it was exacerbated by the Opposition (and co-operative media) waving red herrings about the place, and issuing vague and generalised dark mutterings, akin to the way that ‘witches’ were accused of various salacious associations with embodiments of evil.
Whitlam should have out a stop to all of the nonsense as soon as it started to make waves.
He could have, as he was quite capable of doing, had the people concerned dragged before him, kicked their arses roundly and soundly, maybe have terminated a couple of political careers in a summary way, and made sure that the part, the Opposition, and the nation as a whole knew that he’d done so.
But, his failure to put the matter to bed in a timely way only gave the Opposition and the media more time to embellish their contention that there was something rotten in the state of Denmark, and make their case for disruption seem more credible.
“I want to be absolutely clear that this policy has not resulted in any increased waiting times for any non-First Nations patients,” Dr Karro said.
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This assertion raises questions
dv said:
“I want to be absolutely clear that this policy has not resulted in any increased waiting times for any non-First Nations patients,” Dr Karro said.
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This assertion raises questions
No doubt the statistics will confirm Dr. Karro’s claim.
Former construction union boss John Setka charged with threatening CFMEU administrator
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-12/former-cfmeu-boss-john-setka-accused-threatening-administrator/105999766
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Kerr’s letter withdrawing Whitlam’s commission.
TIL of this use of the word ‘determine’. According to the OED, this was the first meaning of the word, dating from the 15th century, but “Now chiefly in Law”.
transitive. To put an end to (in time); to bring to an end; to end, conclude, terminate.It was sorted out democratically, of the people and by the people in the end.
So all good.
I’m no constitutional expert or historian but the following seems to be the common view.
The Westminster system relies on convention as much as statute. There’s no law for instance mandating the provision of “pairs” in the event of the illness or absence of opposing members, but without this convention we’d end with each side trying to ratfuck each other to take advantage of a temporary change in numbers, as happens in the USA.
Filling casual senate vacancies with members of the same party as the decedent or departee was one such convention. The Coalition’s decision to breach this convention was a disgrace and made Australian politics worse. Ultimately this requirement was made law by the 1977 referendum. It seems it was driven more by the leadership in the Senate, rather than Snedden/Fraser.
The Senate blocking supply specifically to force an election is also something that’s never been done before or since and hopefully never will. This wasn’t in order to negotiate some specific policy: the Coalition was quite plain about the fact that the only change that would convince them to allow supply would be the calling of a House and half-senate election, or a DD, even though they were only a year into Whitlam’s second term. They sought to capitalise on the ALP’s potentially tenporary political troubles.
These antics are something we’d expect in the US but not in Australia. There have been plenty of times where the Senate has been controlled by a different party from the House and the governing party is down in the polls, and certainly the Senate has played hardball with regard to particular pieces of legislation but it’s impossible to imagine any modern opposition leader threatening to send Australia into chaos by cutting the supply of money to government departments just to cynically engineer an early election. Abbott could have done it during Gillard’s reign, or Shorten during Abbott’s, but the idea was never entertained.
For Whitlam’s part, the ALP’s political troubles were mainly avoidable self-inflicted wounds. The Loans Affair happened on his watch and also involved a shocking breach of norms. That’s some Iran-Contra style shit. Politics is tough but sometimes you have to accept that your ambitions will be thwarted.
He also repeatedly stated that the GG had no choice to follow the PM’s advice in all things. This is plainly not true, and this arrogant attempt to nullify the reserve powers misled his followers, and possibly pissed off Kerr. Did Whitlam believe it? He was a smart man who prided himself on the breadth of his knowledge so I assume he’d perused the constitution at some stage.
Either way, he appears to have been genuinely surprised when he went to the GG to request a half-senate election with no agreement for supply to at least cover the election period, and Kerr instead withdrew his commission. There is no way in a million years that a GG would allow an election knowing the money was going to run dry while the votes were being counted.
There has been a tendency to portray Kerr as an entitled conservative toff in cahoots with the Coalition, but unlike Whitlam he had very humble working class origins. His guiding light as a jurist was H.V. Evatt, the former Labor deputy PM and High Court Justice. Kerr was indeed an ALP member while Evatt was leader. Whitlam appointed Kerr as Governor General believing that he could be relied on in a crunch, but Kerr was already of the opinion that the GG was an active rather than ceremonial role.
There don’t seem to be many people who think he handled the crisis well. The common view seems to be that he needed to warn Whitlam that dismissal was a possibility and tell him explicitly that he would never agree to an election without supply guaranteed for the election period. This advice may have resulted in his own dismissal but these things happen, it’s not as though he needed the job. Kerr may have been motivated by the fact that his dismissal and replacement didn’t really solve the issue. Even if the new GG was an absolute stooge and agreed to a halfsenate election with no supply, Australia still goes into chaos as departments run out of money while the government is in caretaker mode. And frankly, there is no reason to think that a halfsenate election would have cured Whitlam’s problems: quite probably the ALP would have gone backwards.
Kerr was in communication with the Palace in the period before the dismissal. Martin Charteris, famed secretary to the Queen, advised him not to use the reserve powers to resolve what remained basically a political problem, as they were only to be used as genuine last resort.
He did have the option to just let matters play out without resort to these powers. Maybe the Liberals would have lost that game of chicken. In fairness it seems likely the days of the Whitlam government were numbered no matter what Kerr did.
I mainly blame the Liberals for their extraordinary use of the Senate in the two ways I’ve described above. One of these issues has been resolved through a referendum in 1977. The other (the ability of an opposing senate to withhold supply indefinitely without cause to force an early election) remains a theoretical possibility.
Pretty much right.
Fraser says that he came the view that Whitlam should have been consulted by Kerr more freely and should have been warned of the consequences of the actions he was taking.
Imo there the blame all round. The three men each demonstrated similar character flaws and misread the other two. Three massive egos, interested in the exercise of political power. Whitlam tried to crash through believing that he had Kerr in his pocket. Frazer was in a rush to reassert the “natural” order of things with his born to rule conservatives back on top. He and Kerr conspired to bring down Whitlam.
Then there was the Palace… we may never know…
dv said:
Former construction union boss John Setka charged with threatening CFMEU administratorhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-12/former-cfmeu-boss-john-setka-accused-threatening-administrator/105999766
I heard that he was charged with ‘using a carriage service to issue threats’.
His mistake was to not deliver the threats in loco.
Nothing wrong with good old-fashioned threats, just don’t forget the personal touch.
There was a more recent similar example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvaluan_constitutional_crisis
It rather illustrated that the PM is never going to win this constitutional shoot-out.
The Governor General has power to act immediately.
The PM can only act by advising the Monarch to dismiss the GG… and it has to be by an actual letter in ye olde dead tree format. With the best will in the world it can’t get to the palace in under a day.
In this instance the GG dismissed the government after the letter to the Queen had been sent.
Incidentally, a good mate who was in the regular army, told me that in November 75 Australian troops and artillery were quietly prepositioned in the bush just south of Yass…
So Whitlam may have been proved wrong about his “nothing will save the Governor-General”.
dv said:
There was a more recent similar example:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvaluan_constitutional_crisis
It rather illustrated that the PM is never going to win this constitutional shoot-out.
The Governor General has power to act immediately.
The PM can only act by advising the Monarch to dismiss the GG… and it has to be by an actual letter in ye olde dead tree format. With the best will in the world it can’t get to the palace in under a day.
In this instance the GG dismissed the government after the letter to the Queen had been sent.
democracy at work
BUY BUY BUY
¡¡¡
The next state/terr election in Australia will be in South Australia.
It’s 4 months away but ALP are leading in the polls 66 – 34.
This could be a WA style wipe out for the Libs.
SCIENCE said:
BUY BUY BUY
¡¡¡
O….K…
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
There was a more recent similar example:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvaluan_constitutional_crisis
It rather illustrated that the PM is never going to win this constitutional shoot-out.
The Governor General has power to act immediately.
The PM can only act by advising the Monarch to dismiss the GG… and it has to be by an actual letter in ye olde dead tree format. With the best will in the world it can’t get to the palace in under a day.
In this instance the GG dismissed the government after the letter to the Queen had been sent.
democracy at work
I’ve got my eye on you boy…!
dv said:
The next state/terr election in Australia will be in South Australia.
It’s 4 months away but ALP are leading in the polls 66 – 34.
This could be a WA style wipe out for the Libs.
well they better get their shit together and ley out their net nonzero plan quick smart, that should help their numbers improve
Ian said:
:)
Very clever.
Ian said:
:)
yes please
“If the Coalition keeps undermining the environment and the economy, they’re heading for net zero seats.”
what a bunch of shit economic managers
The unemployment rate declined to 4.3 per cent in October, down from 4.5 per cent in seasonally adjusted terms.
Spocky & I are very much LOLing over this.
I haven’t checked if it’s true yet though.
“If you are on a visa you are a guest. If you’re a citizen you’re a full member of the Australian family,” he said. “Like with any household, if a guest turns up to show hatred and wreck the household, they can be told it’s time to go home.”
SCIENCE said:
“If you are on a visa you are a guest. If you’re a citizen you’re a full member of the Australian family,” he said. “Like with any household, if a guest turns up to show hatred and wreck the household, they can be told it’s time to go home.”
Guess who’s coming to dinner?
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
“If you are on a visa you are a guest. If you’re a citizen you’re a full member of the Australian family,” he said. “Like with any household, if a guest turns up to show hatred and wreck the household, they can be told it’s time to go home.”
Guess who’s coming to dinner?
Han Lecter
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
“If you are on a visa you are a guest. If you’re a citizen you’re a full member of the Australian family,” he said. “Like with any household, if a guest turns up to show hatred and wreck the household, they can be told it’s time to go home.”
Guess who’s coming to dinner?
Han Lecter
Chinese?
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
Guess who’s coming to dinner?
Han Lecter
Chinese?
Carthaginian…
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Han Lecter
Chinese?
Carthaginian…
Han.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Chinese?
Carthaginian…
Han.
nibbles dinner
Though it has not been announced publicly, Kev Bonham has the inside gen that Brad Battin has been deposed as Victorian Liberal Leader in favour of Jess Wilson.
This will give her just about exactly a year’s run-up to the next election.
dv said:
Though it has not been announced publicly, Kev Bonham has the inside gen that Brad Battin has been deposed as Victorian Liberal Leader in favour of Jess Wilson.This will give her just about exactly a year’s run-up to the next election.
Brad’s no longer battin’.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Though it has not been announced publicly, Kev Bonham has the inside gen that Brad Battin has been deposed as Victorian Liberal Leader in favour of Jess Wilson.
This will give her just about exactly a year’s run-up to the next election.
Brad’s no longer battin’.
is Yousr ABC a public broadcasting service
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-18/victorian-liberal-leadership-spill-battin-wilson/106021260
Victorian Liberal MPs choose Jess Wilson as new opposition leader
Topic:State and Territory Parliament
3h ago
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Though it has not been announced publicly, Kev Bonham has the inside gen that Brad Battin has been deposed as Victorian Liberal Leader in favour of Jess Wilson.
This will give her just about exactly a year’s run-up to the next election.
Brad’s no longer battin’.
is Yousr ABC a public broadcasting service
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-18/victorian-liberal-leadership-spill-battin-wilson/106021260
Victorian Liberal MPs choose Jess Wilson as new opposition leader
Topic:State and Territory Parliament
3h ago
:)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-17/man-sentenced-over-fatima-payman-death-threats/106016600
Sean David Sharman has been sentenced to an 18 month community corrections order for a series of death threats against Senator Payman.
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-17/man-sentenced-over-fatima-payman-death-threats/106016600
Sean David Sharman has been sentenced to an 18 month community corrections order for a series of death threats against Senator Payman.
almost mistook that for dave sharma but well
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-18/public-hospital-wastage-grattan-institute-report/106019006
Public hospitals wasting $1.2b a year and hindered by ‘bogus budgets’, Grattan Institute says
sure, so it’s 0.3% of what we’re wasting on bogus submarines, no worries
oh good sticking with fossils should
be good value for Corruption here
SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-18/public-hospital-wastage-grattan-institute-report/106019006
Public hospitals wasting $1.2b a year and hindered by ‘bogus budgets’, Grattan Institute says
sure, so it’s 0.3% of what we’re wasting on bogus submarines, no worries
Yeah.
:(
The Victorian Libs under their new leader appear to be on the same page as their Federal counterparts. Heading for extinction by not changing policies along with electing their new leader.
It’s been 10 years since his dire message was delivered to the world. In hindsight, it wasn’t gloomy enough
By Matthew Knott
November 19, 2025 — 12.20am
When Michael Fullilove was invited to deliver the prestigious Boyer lectures a decade ago, the head of Australia’s top foreign policy think tank insisted upon one condition. The Lowy Institute’s executive director wanted to deliver his first speech, examining Australia’s place in a rapidly transforming world, in Beijing. Since the annual lecture series was launched in 1959, Fullilove’s talk at Peking University was the first, and to this day only, time an address has been given overseas.
It was a divisive choice. Fullilove recalls that some conservative commentators criticised him for choosing the capital of communist China over Washington or London. When he stepped onto the tarmac in China, he had a voicemail from an Australian diplomat saying: “May I just ask you one favour: please don’t screw up the relationship with Beijing this week!” But he believed no other nation was changing Australia’s relationship with the world as much as China, the emerging superpower.
The geopolitical vista of 2015 looked, in many ways, much less grim than today. Barack Obama was in the White House and Donald Trump’s ambitions for high office were largely seen as fanciful. Xi Jinping had not yet been named China’s president for life. Vladimir Putin had seized Crimea, but a full-scale invasion of Ukraine seemed unthinkable. So did the horrors of the October 7 attacks and two years of war in Gaza.
Yet Fullilove titled his speech Present at the Destruction, reflecting his fear that the post-Cold War global order that had benefited Australia was beginning to disintegrate. It seemed like a dire message. Reflecting now, he says he was probably not gloomy enough. “Ten years later, the liberal international order has almost faded away,” he will say in a speech at the Lowy Institute on Wednesday.
A central theme of Fullilove’s Boyer lectures was that Australia needed to adopt a more ambitious and confident foreign policy, shaking off the tendency to talk ourselves down and downplay our potential influence.
A decade on, he says there is much to be proud of when examining Australian foreign policy. He praises the Albanese government for striking an alliance with Papua New Guinea, innovative security agreements with Pacific nations like Vanuatu and a new security treaty with Indonesia. As for its approach to China – summed up in Anthony Albanese’s dictum “co-operate when we can, disagree when we must” – he could hardly dispute it, given he coined the phrase in his 2015 lecture.
But Fullilove believes Australia still needs to strive for a bolder, more expansive role on the world stage – and to invest the necessary energy and money to make this possible.
Coming off Albanese’s successful White House meeting with Trump in October, Fullilove is urging the prime minister to think strategically about how to maximise Australia’s influence with a transactional US president. A cautious, narrowly self-interested approach is not enough, he argues.
“President Trump likes a winner, and he seems to like the PM,” Fullilove says. “Now Canberra should build on this success by seeking to play a co-ordinating role with other US allies in the region.”
Just as European leaders realised they needed to team up to influence Trump’s thinking on Russia and Ukraine, he says Albanese and leaders such as new Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi need to do the same for the Asia-Pacific.
Fullilove, an Americanophile and historian of the US presidency, is no acolyte of Trump, whom he describes as “an unbeliever in the liberal order and an alliance sceptic”. But he continues to believe the US alliance is central to Australia’s national security interests. “We shouldn’t shrink America to the dimensions of one president, even an outsized president such as Donald Trump,” he says in an interview at the Lowy Institute’s Sydney headquarters. “And to those who think that the world would be a more stable place or Asia would be a safer place if the United States were to exit, I say: be careful what you wish for.”
He believes South Korea’s nascent efforts to acquire nuclear-powered submarines from the US show that the AUKUS pact, for all its critics, is the right move for Australia as it seeks to beef up its deterrence capabilities.
The government is right to assert that Australia faces its most dangerous strategic circumstances since the end of World War II, he says, but believes its actions do not fully match its rhetoric.
Fullilove says European leaders have learnt the hard way that they can no longer be dependent on the United States, as seen by their commitment to dramatically increase defence spending. Asian nations like South Korea, Singapore and Japan have also announced significant increases in defence spending. Australian defence spending is still hovering around 2 per cent of GDP, even as it moves to acquire hugely expensive nuclear-powered submarines. Leaving aside the question of specific spending targets, he says a more lethal defence force will require a bigger budget.
“There is no similar sense of urgency here in Australia,” he despairs.
The same goes for diplomacy. Fullilove says it is dispiriting that Australian diplomatic spending has remained roughly flat over the past decade as a percentage of government spending.
“Why should Australia have fewer overseas posts than smaller countries such as the Netherlands, Hungary, Greece and Portugal?” he asks. “We have the world’s 14th-largest economy, but only the 25th-largest national diplomatic network. We need a larger network of diplomatic missions and a reinvigorated foreign service.”
On the upside, he is relieved Australia is not slashing foreign aid funding like other nations and that the revolving door of Australian prime ministers has finally stopped turning. Albanese, whom he says has mastered the art of personal diplomacy, is ensconced in The Lodge, aided by a “forensic, industrious” foreign minister in Penny Wong. He just wants them to aim even higher. “Now is the moment to think big.”
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/it-s-been-10-years-since-his-dire-message-was-delivered-to-the-world-in-hindsight-it-wasn-t-gloomy-enough-20251118-p5ngcc.html
JudgeMental said:
team sports working as intended
totally not foreign interference
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-19/julie-inman-grant-called-to-testify-us-congress/106028042
fuck
Alas you seem to have learned nothing.
Yes, I appreciate that things are not easy for you. Having the likes of Sky News and The Australian newspaper constantly criticise you and feed you and your team a steady diet of misguided advice cannot be easy. But you mustn’t let this get you down because barely anyone listens to them any more.
Now on to the specifics of this appalling excuse for a research assignment.
Firstly, have you not been listening in chemistry class? Coal is predominantly made of carbon. When it is burned it combines with oxygen to form CO2. Constantly repeating that you can reduce carbon emissions and also have “energy abundance” through use of Australia’s plentiful reserves of coal is illogical. Or maybe you were listening in chemistry but have been nodding off during our philosophy classes on logic?
Also, you mustn’t listen to your fellow classmate Daniel Tehan’s assertion this doesn’t matter because of carbon capture and storage. I don’t know how many times I have to tell both you and Daniel, you cannot rely on ChatGPT to write your homework. The tool has been trained partly on fantasy story books written by fossil fuel companies and has a horrible habit of hallucinating facts. It also got your friend Ted O’Brien into trouble last year when he wrote that assignment about rolling out small modular nuclear reactors over the next few years, when they don’t actually exist.
Also I have already warned you about plagiarism.
Plagiarism is always bad, but it is far worse when it involves copying the work of someone incompetent in the subject you are being assessed on. Matt Canavan and David Littleproud have not even been taking the classes that were relevant to this assignment. So I don’t understand why you would be copying their communications subject assignment on how to engage with those that struggle with reading. I told you the intended audience for this research assignment have university degrees!…
Ian said:
Alas you seem to have learned nothing.
Yes, I appreciate that things are not easy for you. Having the likes of Sky News and The Australian newspaper constantly criticise you and feed you and your team a steady diet of misguided advice cannot be easy. But you mustn’t let this get you down because barely anyone listens to them any more.
Now on to the specifics of this appalling excuse for a research assignment.
Firstly, have you not been listening in chemistry class? Coal is predominantly made of carbon. When it is burned it combines with oxygen to form CO2. Constantly repeating that you can reduce carbon emissions and also have “energy abundance” through use of Australia’s plentiful reserves of coal is illogical. Or maybe you were listening in chemistry but have been nodding off during our philosophy classes on logic?
Also, you mustn’t listen to your fellow classmate Daniel Tehan’s assertion this doesn’t matter because of carbon capture and storage. I don’t know how many times I have to tell both you and Daniel, you cannot rely on ChatGPT to write your homework. The tool has been trained partly on fantasy story books written by fossil fuel companies and has a horrible habit of hallucinating facts. It also got your friend Ted O’Brien into trouble last year when he wrote that assignment about rolling out small modular nuclear reactors over the next few years, when they don’t actually exist.
Also I have already warned you about plagiarism.
Plagiarism is always bad, but it is far worse when it involves copying the work of someone incompetent in the subject you are being assessed on. Matt Canavan and David Littleproud have not even been taking the classes that were relevant to this assignment. So I don’t understand why you would be copying their communications subject assignment on how to engage with those that struggle with reading. I told you the intended audience for this research assignment have university degrees!…
Exactly.
Ian said:
Alas you seem to have learned nothing.
Yes, I appreciate that things are not easy for you. Having the likes of Sky News and The Australian newspaper constantly criticise you and feed you and your team a steady diet of misguided advice cannot be easy. But you mustn’t let this get you down because barely anyone listens to them any more.
Now on to the specifics of this appalling excuse for a research assignment.
Firstly, have you not been listening in chemistry class? Coal is predominantly made of carbon. When it is burned it combines with oxygen to form CO2. Constantly repeating that you can reduce carbon emissions and also have “energy abundance” through use of Australia’s plentiful reserves of coal is illogical. Or maybe you were listening in chemistry but have been nodding off during our philosophy classes on logic?
Also, you mustn’t listen to your fellow classmate Daniel Tehan’s assertion this doesn’t matter because of carbon capture and storage. I don’t know how many times I have to tell both you and Daniel, you cannot rely on ChatGPT to write your homework. The tool has been trained partly on fantasy story books written by fossil fuel companies and has a horrible habit of hallucinating facts. It also got your friend Ted O’Brien into trouble last year when he wrote that assignment about rolling out small modular nuclear reactors over the next few years, when they don’t actually exist.
Also I have already warned you about plagiarism.
Plagiarism is always bad, but it is far worse when it involves copying the work of someone incompetent in the subject you are being assessed on. Matt Canavan and David Littleproud have not even been taking the classes that were relevant to this assignment. So I don’t understand why you would be copying their communications subject assignment on how to engage with those that struggle with reading. I told you the intended audience for this research assignment have university degrees!…
Something I personally find strange in regards to arguments regarding fossil fuels and global warming.
Is that even if global warming was a complete lie, fossil fuels aren’t good for the planet or most life on it due to their pollutive nature.
They also coveted by others and wars are fought over them
Health problems, polluted water and land, exploitation of take your pick and so on.
Ian said:
Alas you seem to have learned nothing.
Yes, I appreciate that things are not easy for you. Having the likes of Sky News and The Australian newspaper constantly criticise you and feed you and your team a steady diet of misguided advice cannot be easy. But you mustn’t let this get you down because barely anyone listens to them any more.
Now on to the specifics of this appalling excuse for a research assignment.
Firstly, have you not been listening in chemistry class? Coal is predominantly made of carbon. When it is burned it combines with oxygen to form CO2. Constantly repeating that you can reduce carbon emissions and also have “energy abundance” through use of Australia’s plentiful reserves of coal is illogical. Or maybe you were listening in chemistry but have been nodding off during our philosophy classes on logic?
Also, you mustn’t listen to your fellow classmate Daniel Tehan’s assertion this doesn’t matter because of carbon capture and storage. I don’t know how many times I have to tell both you and Daniel, you cannot rely on ChatGPT to write your homework. The tool has been trained partly on fantasy story books written by fossil fuel companies and has a horrible habit of hallucinating facts. It also got your friend Ted O’Brien into trouble last year when he wrote that assignment about rolling out small modular nuclear reactors over the next few years, when they don’t actually exist.
Also I have already warned you about plagiarism.
Plagiarism is always bad, but it is far worse when it involves copying the work of someone incompetent in the subject you are being assessed on. Matt Canavan and David Littleproud have not even been taking the classes that were relevant to this assignment. So I don’t understand why you would be copying their communications subject assignment on how to engage with those that struggle with reading. I told you the intended audience for this research assignment have university degrees!…
LOL
:)
Cymek said:
Ian said:
Alas you seem to have learned nothing.
Yes, I appreciate that things are not easy for you. Having the likes of Sky News and The Australian newspaper constantly criticise you and feed you and your team a steady diet of misguided advice cannot be easy. But you mustn’t let this get you down because barely anyone listens to them any more.
Now on to the specifics of this appalling excuse for a research assignment.
Firstly, have you not been listening in chemistry class? Coal is predominantly made of carbon. When it is burned it combines with oxygen to form CO2. Constantly repeating that you can reduce carbon emissions and also have “energy abundance” through use of Australia’s plentiful reserves of coal is illogical. Or maybe you were listening in chemistry but have been nodding off during our philosophy classes on logic?
Also, you mustn’t listen to your fellow classmate Daniel Tehan’s assertion this doesn’t matter because of carbon capture and storage. I don’t know how many times I have to tell both you and Daniel, you cannot rely on ChatGPT to write your homework. The tool has been trained partly on fantasy story books written by fossil fuel companies and has a horrible habit of hallucinating facts. It also got your friend Ted O’Brien into trouble last year when he wrote that assignment about rolling out small modular nuclear reactors over the next few years, when they don’t actually exist.
Also I have already warned you about plagiarism.
Plagiarism is always bad, but it is far worse when it involves copying the work of someone incompetent in the subject you are being assessed on. Matt Canavan and David Littleproud have not even been taking the classes that were relevant to this assignment. So I don’t understand why you would be copying their communications subject assignment on how to engage with those that struggle with reading. I told you the intended audience for this research assignment have university degrees!…
Something I personally find strange in regards to arguments regarding fossil fuels and global warming.
Is that even if global warming was a complete lie, fossil fuels aren’t good for the planet or most life on it due to their pollutive nature.
They also coveted by others and wars are fought over them
Health problems, polluted water and land, exploitation of take your pick and so on.
yeah but going clean green renewable or nuclear would put all the advantage with CHINA and we can’t have a bunch of {ASIANS who are trying to maximally lift their people into prosperity and clean up their neighbourhood} taking over the means of production
wait
dv said:
Though it has not been announced publicly, Kev Bonham has the inside gen that Brad Battin has been deposed as Victorian Liberal Leader in favour of Jess Wilson.This will give her just about exactly a year’s run-up to the next election.
And NSW Libs have also got in on the fun, Mark Speakman stepping down as leader. He has endorsed Kellie Sloane to replace him.
Little bit surprised this hasn’t happened to Vincent Tarzia in SA. Bit late now as the election is only 4 months off.
well that’s all right then
Queensland coroner says the three extremists behind the Wieambilla terror attack, which claimed the lives of two young police officers and a neighbour, had a “shared delusional disorder”. Mr Ryan said Gareth, Stacey and Nathaniel each had an “undiagnosed and untreated psychotic illness”.
probably not their fault
SCIENCE said:
well that’s all right then
Queensland coroner says the three extremists behind the Wieambilla terror attack, which claimed the lives of two young police officers and a neighbour, had a “shared delusional disorder”. Mr Ryan said Gareth, Stacey and Nathaniel each had an “undiagnosed and untreated psychotic illness”.
probably not their fault
The boys parents were religious nutters too?
seems NSN is in the FO part of FAing
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-21/nsw-neo-nazi-leaders-bank-accounts-frozen-jack-eltis/106032784
JudgeMental said:
seems NSN is in the FO part of FAing
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-21/nsw-neo-nazi-leaders-bank-accounts-frozen-jack-eltis/106032784
you laugh but they were also repudiated in the 1920s so we’ll see who’s laughing when 2039 comes around
ahahahaha what a bunch of idiots
Researchers in the US have found that Australia has been one of the biggest beneficiaries of Chinese credit since 2000, mostly to the resources sector. The report found that Australia received $200 billion over the period, making it the third highest recipient after the United States and Russia.
they’ve sent us all this cash and we’ve used it to buy the image of submarines that will push back against them LOL such losers
SCIENCE said:
ahahahaha what a bunch of idiots
Researchers in the US have found that Australia has been one of the biggest beneficiaries of Chinese credit since 2000, mostly to the resources sector. The report found that Australia received $200 billion over the period, making it the third highest recipient after the United States and Russia.
they’ve sent us all this cash and we’ve used it to buy the image of submarines that will push back against them LOL such losers
Maybe we can buy submarines off China, got to be cheaper than 80 billion dollars a pop surely.
Cheshire cat.
Federal Newspoll
58-42
I was wondering how far back you have to go to find a worse Newspoll result for the Coalition, and the answer is October 2009.
dv said:
Federal Newspoll
58-42I was wondering how far back you have to go to find a worse Newspoll result for the Coalition, and the answer is October 2009.
also for the geniuses here what are your new takes on the new kid on the block are they full blown antefa or just Liberal apologists
or are we reading that completely wrong
The Senate was suspended for more than one and a half hours after One Nation’s Pauline Hanson strode into the chamber wearing a burka, frustrating and then stalling debate in the final sitting week of the year.
Senator Hanson, who is calling for burkas and face coverings to be banned across the country, was subsequently slapped with a sanction preventing her from entering the chamber for the rest of the day.
When she refused to leave the Senate floor, there was a heated exchange and President Sue Lines resorted to the rare move of suspending the chamber’s proceedings for more than 1.5 hours.
Senator Hanson was among the last politicians to leave the Senate on Monday afternoon, and on social media labelled her Senate colleagues as “hypocrites” for preventing her from introducing her bill.
roughbarked said:
The Senate was suspended for more than one and a half hours after One Nation’s Pauline Hanson strode into the chamber wearing a burka, frustrating and then stalling debate in the final sitting week of the year.Senator Hanson, who is calling for burkas and face coverings to be banned across the country, was subsequently slapped with a sanction preventing her from entering the chamber for the rest of the day.
When she refused to leave the Senate floor, there was a heated exchange and President Sue Lines resorted to the rare move of suspending the chamber’s proceedings for more than 1.5 hours.
Senator Hanson was among the last politicians to leave the Senate on Monday afternoon, and on social media labelled her Senate colleagues as “hypocrites” for preventing her from introducing her bill.
Explaining her bill, she claimed wearing a burqa was “a national security issue”, noting head coverings like helmets were required to be removed when entering banks and other businesses.
“We have so many issues in the country with national security,” she said.
But asked for data about how many incidents of national security risk she was aware of relating to face coverings like the burqa, Hanson said: “can I suggest you call ASIO?”.
Pressed further for any details, she could not provide any.
“I can’t answer you that question,” Hanson replied.
Neophyte said:
roughbarked said:
The Senate was suspended for more than one and a half hours after One Nation’s Pauline Hanson strode into the chamber wearing a burka, frustrating and then stalling debate in the final sitting week of the year.Senator Hanson, who is calling for burkas and face coverings to be banned across the country, was subsequently slapped with a sanction preventing her from entering the chamber for the rest of the day.
When she refused to leave the Senate floor, there was a heated exchange and President Sue Lines resorted to the rare move of suspending the chamber’s proceedings for more than 1.5 hours.
Senator Hanson was among the last politicians to leave the Senate on Monday afternoon, and on social media labelled her Senate colleagues as “hypocrites” for preventing her from introducing her bill.
Explaining her bill, she claimed wearing a burqa was “a national security issue”, noting head coverings like helmets were required to be removed when entering banks and other businesses.
“We have so many issues in the country with national security,” she said.
But asked for data about how many incidents of national security risk she was aware of relating to face coverings like the burqa, Hanson said: “can I suggest you call ASIO?”.
Pressed further for any details, she could not provide any.
“I can’t answer you that question,” Hanson replied.
Er, hasn’t she done this before?
Divine Angel said:
Neophyte said:
roughbarked said:
The Senate was suspended for more than one and a half hours after One Nation’s Pauline Hanson strode into the chamber wearing a burka, frustrating and then stalling debate in the final sitting week of the year.Senator Hanson, who is calling for burkas and face coverings to be banned across the country, was subsequently slapped with a sanction preventing her from entering the chamber for the rest of the day.
When she refused to leave the Senate floor, there was a heated exchange and President Sue Lines resorted to the rare move of suspending the chamber’s proceedings for more than 1.5 hours.
Senator Hanson was among the last politicians to leave the Senate on Monday afternoon, and on social media labelled her Senate colleagues as “hypocrites” for preventing her from introducing her bill.
Explaining her bill, she claimed wearing a burqa was “a national security issue”, noting head coverings like helmets were required to be removed when entering banks and other businesses.
“We have so many issues in the country with national security,” she said.
But asked for data about how many incidents of national security risk she was aware of relating to face coverings like the burqa, Hanson said: “can I suggest you call ASIO?”.
Pressed further for any details, she could not provide any.
“I can’t answer you that question,” Hanson replied.
Er, hasn’t she done this before?
Back in 2017
So the upgrade at the BoM was from way back, started by the coalition
Those coalition MPs who have been making comments might like to backpedal a bit.
Neophyte said:
Divine Angel said:
Neophyte said:Explaining her bill, she claimed wearing a burqa was “a national security issue”, noting head coverings like helmets were required to be removed when entering banks and other businesses.
“We have so many issues in the country with national security,” she said.
But asked for data about how many incidents of national security risk she was aware of relating to face coverings like the burqa, Hanson said: “can I suggest you call ASIO?”.
Pressed further for any details, she could not provide any.
“I can’t answer you that question,” Hanson replied.
Er, hasn’t she done this before?
Back in 2017
And apparently today as well. I very much like the description of her.
Spiny Norman said:
Neophyte said:
Divine Angel said:Er, hasn’t she done this before?
Back in 2017
And apparently today as well. I very much like the description of her.
I died. Am ghost. Wooo
Divine Angel said:
Spiny Norman said:
Neophyte said:Back in 2017
And apparently today as well. I very much like the description of her.
I died. Am ghost. Wooo
And she would have gotten away with it, if it wasn’t for those meddling kids…
Spiny Norman said:
Neophyte said:
Divine Angel said:Er, hasn’t she done this before?
Back in 2017
And apparently today as well. I very much like the description of her.
Pauline Hanson faces widespread condemnation after repeating ‘disgraceful’ burqa stunt in Senate
Unfit to hold office.
Loose cannon with empty shells.
WTF why do the communists at Yousr ABC scream and throw tantrums about a little gas but when it comes to dirty CHINA mining dirty coal then it’s all rainbows and butterflies and jobs and economic rewards¿
Pending approval, mining of the expanded areas would begin in 2028 and roughly 74 million tonnes of coal would be extracted over the life of the mine. The extension would cover almost an additional 2,300 hectares of land on the mine’s existing leases, and add 60 full-time jobs, bringing the mine’s total employment to 490 people.
Pauline Hanson is censured by Senate over burqa stunt
Pauline Hanson suspended from Senate for seven sitting days over burka stunt | ABC NEWS
I would have liked to see 30 sitting days for the divisiveness she is cooking up.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Pauline Hanson is censured by Senate over burqa stuntPauline Hanson suspended from Senate for seven sitting days over burka stunt | ABC NEWS
I would have liked to see 30 sitting days for the divisiveness she is cooking up.
Sowing divisiveness on that level is Not Good Leadership.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Pauline Hanson is censured by Senate over burqa stuntPauline Hanson suspended from Senate for seven sitting days over burka stunt | ABC NEWS
I would have liked to see 30 sitting days for the divisiveness she is cooking up.
Sowing divisiveness on that level is Not Good Leadership.
If she is winging about security why did she publish floor plans of parliament?
Pauline Hanson is racist and divisive, please explain.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Pauline Hanson is racist and divisive, please explain.
ah the old classics
Tau.Neutrino said:
Pauline Hanson is racist and divisive, please explain.
She has a lot of people supporting her.
I was calling them racists to stir up shit plus many are likely that way.
Cymek said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Pauline Hanson is racist and divisive, please explain.She has a lot of people supporting her.
I was calling them racists to stir up shit plus many are likely that way.
The burka saga has some validity as it shouldn’t be a means to conceal identity.
However people have some bug up their arse about immigration causing all Australia’s problems
no way
The results of the Australian Election Study show Labor was seen by voters in 2025 as a better economic manager than the Coalition for the first time. Peter Dutton was the least popular leader on record in the survey’s 38-year history. For the first time, the proportion of voters who identified as non-partisan exceeded those who identified as Liberal voters.
SCIENCE said:
no way
The results of the Australian Election Study show Labor was seen by voters in 2025 as a better economic manager than the Coalition for the first time. Peter Dutton was the least popular leader on record in the survey’s 38-year history. For the first time, the proportion of voters who identified as non-partisan exceeded those who identified as Liberal voters.
I was listening to stuff about this on the radio as I drove in to Hamilton this morning. He was especially disliked by women.
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:no way
The results of the Australian Election Study show Labor was seen by voters in 2025 as a better economic manager than the Coalition for the first time. Peter Dutton was the least popular leader on record in the survey’s 38-year history. For the first time, the proportion of voters who identified as non-partisan exceeded those who identified as Liberal voters.
I was listening to stuff about this on the radio as I drove in to Hamilton this morning. He was especially disliked by women.
And me, too.
Ian said:
:)
Michael V said:
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:no way
The results of the Australian Election Study show Labor was seen by voters in 2025 as a better economic manager than the Coalition for the first time. Peter Dutton was the least popular leader on record in the survey’s 38-year history. For the first time, the proportion of voters who identified as non-partisan exceeded those who identified as Liberal voters.
I was listening to stuff about this on the radio as I drove in to Hamilton this morning. He was especially disliked by women.
And me, too.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
no way
The results of the Australian Election Study show Labor was seen by voters in 2025 as a better economic manager than the Coalition for the first time. Peter Dutton was the least popular leader on record in the survey’s 38-year history. For the first time, the proportion of voters who identified as non-partisan exceeded those who identified as Liberal voters.
I was listening to stuff about this on the radio as I drove in to Hamilton this morning. He was especially disliked by women.
And me, too.
well fine then in the interest of balance
NSW Premier Chris Minns has been accused by a former Labor staffer of involvement in an alleged conspiracy to funnel illegal donations into ALP coffers for the 2015 election.
I imagine Pauline is steaming angry, they could get murdered without the 3 hours limit being made law.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/wa/perth/north/stirling/city-of-stirlings-proposed-abandoned-trolley-crackdown-laws-to-be-scrapped-over-legal-issues-c-20678003
fsm said:
PMSL!
:)
As a right wing extremist I’m very happy with the government’s social media ban on our kiddies.
Peak Warming Man said:
As a right wing extremist I’m very happy with the government’s social media ban on our kiddies.
good
Peak Warming Man said:
As a right wing extremist I’m very happy with the government’s social media ban on our kiddies.
Luckily all those VPNs had Black Friday sales.
There is a by election underway in Hinchinbrook. The seat has been held by Nick Dametto of the Katter Australia Party for 8 years. He resigned to run for mayor of Townsville.
Looks like KAP may be in a spot of bother but it will ultimately come down to preferences.
Why was the BOM website so expensive? | The West Report
