BREAKING: “GO F*CK YOURSELVES” — South Park writer who owns Trump Kennedy Center web domain profanely responds to legal pressure to give it up.

In what may be the pettiest culture-war skirmish of the year, South Park writer Toby Morton has apparently driven Donald Trump’s orbit into a full-blown meltdown — not with a protest, not with a lawsuit, but with a website and a sense of humor.

As we reported earlier, after Trump allies began floating plans to rechristen the Kennedy Center in his own image, Morton quietly snapped up the domain TrumpKennedyCenter.org and filled it with the kind of deadpan satire that hits hardest because it barely exaggerates reality. The result? A perfectly skewered monument to authoritarian vanity — and, reportedly, a flurry of legal threats from lawyers who did not appreciate the joke.

Morton’s response was swift, surgical, and devastatingly funny.

“Satire is protected speech,” he wrote. “Confusion is a legal requirement, not a feeling. Political parody is not infringement. Criticism is not cybersquatting, and trademark law isn’t a panic button for institutions that don’t like being laughed at. I’ll proceed accordingly while you go fuck yourselves. Dog bless.”

Ouch.

The mock website itself reads like a fever dream scripted by Kafka and produced by Fox News. Visitors are welcomed to “A National Institution Devoted to Power and Loyalty,” where “tradition is preserved, narratives are curated, and history is… selectively remembered.” The site promises future “ceremonies,” “sanctioned appearances,” and a chilling declaration: Participation is not required. Belonging is expected.

Even the visual gags cut deep — a faux logo invoking the Kennedy Center’s iconic silhouette, flanked by Trump’s name and a redacted reference to a “13-year-old girl,” a brutal satirical nod to the long, uncomfortable history surrounding Trump, Epstein, and institutional silence.

The pièce de résistance? A fake upcoming event promising a performance by the “Epstein Dancers.” It’s not subtle — and that’s the point.

What makes the whole episode sting is how little exaggeration is actually required. Morton didn’t invent authoritarian aesthetics or cultish loyalty. He simply mirrored them back, slightly sharpened, and let the reflection do the damage.

In response, Trump-world reportedly reached for lawyers instead of a sense of humor — proving the satire’s thesis in real time.

As Morton made clear, parody isn’t theft. It’s commentary. And judging by how hard this landed, the joke hit exactly where it was meant to.

Please like and share the joke!

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/17dKfEX72z/

good

AussieDJ said:

BREAKING: “GO F*CK YOURSELVES” — South Park writer who owns Trump Kennedy Center web domain profanely responds to legal pressure to give it up.

In what may be the pettiest culture-war skirmish of the year, South Park writer Toby Morton has apparently driven Donald Trump’s orbit into a full-blown meltdown — not with a protest, not with a lawsuit, but with a website and a sense of humor.

As we reported earlier, after Trump allies began floating plans to rechristen the Kennedy Center in his own image, Morton quietly snapped up the domain TrumpKennedyCenter.org and filled it with the kind of deadpan satire that hits hardest because it barely exaggerates reality. The result? A perfectly skewered monument to authoritarian vanity — and, reportedly, a flurry of legal threats from lawyers who did not appreciate the joke.

Morton’s response was swift, surgical, and devastatingly funny.

“Satire is protected speech,” he wrote. “Confusion is a legal requirement, not a feeling. Political parody is not infringement. Criticism is not cybersquatting, and trademark law isn’t a panic button for institutions that don’t like being laughed at. I’ll proceed accordingly while you go fuck yourselves. Dog bless.”

Ouch.

The mock website itself reads like a fever dream scripted by Kafka and produced by Fox News. Visitors are welcomed to “A National Institution Devoted to Power and Loyalty,” where “tradition is preserved, narratives are curated, and history is… selectively remembered.” The site promises future “ceremonies,” “sanctioned appearances,” and a chilling declaration: Participation is not required. Belonging is expected.

Even the visual gags cut deep — a faux logo invoking the Kennedy Center’s iconic silhouette, flanked by Trump’s name and a redacted reference to a “13-year-old girl,” a brutal satirical nod to the long, uncomfortable history surrounding Trump, Epstein, and institutional silence.

The pièce de résistance? A fake upcoming event promising a performance by the “Epstein Dancers.” It’s not subtle — and that’s the point.

What makes the whole episode sting is how little exaggeration is actually required. Morton didn’t invent authoritarian aesthetics or cultish loyalty. He simply mirrored them back, slightly sharpened, and let the reflection do the damage.

In response, Trump-world reportedly reached for lawyers instead of a sense of humor — proving the satire’s thesis in real time.

As Morton made clear, parody isn’t theft. It’s commentary. And judging by how hard this landed, the joke hit exactly where it was meant to.

Please like and share the joke!

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/17dKfEX72z/

:)

Heh!

:)

Smart move.

Oil tanker pursued by US now has a Russian flag painted on its side.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/31/politics/oil-tanker-venezuela-russian-flag

AussieDJ said:

BREAKING: “GO F*CK YOURSELVES” —

As Morton made clear, parody isn’t theft. It’s commentary. And judging by how hard this landed, the joke hit exactly where it was meant to.

Please like and share the joke!

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/17dKfEX72z/

Perfect.

Meanwhile in NM…I hope the healthcare insurance bit is right. I know that the free childcare, school meals and free buses is real. Free animal adoptions worries me a bit, NM is a known place for illegal dog fights.

“Trump’s rambling here is the political version of ‘you can’t fire me, I quit,’” Mr Newsom’s office said.

Donald Trump says National Guard being removed from Chicago, LA and Portland

buffy said:

““Trump’s rambling here is the political version of ‘you can’t fire me, I quit,’” Mr Newsom’s office said.

Donald Trump says National Guard being removed from Chicago, LA and Portland

I wish he would quit.

It’d be nice. We could find something else less exhausting to discuss.

In his more-than-eight-hour of testimony, Smith insisted he had no political motivations in indicting Trump, and said he believed “we had proof beyond a reasonable doubt in both cases” that he brought. “If asked whether to prosecute a former president based on the same facts today, I would do so regardless of whether that president was a Republican or a Democrat,” he said in his opening statement. Smith later told an unnamed committee staffer he would have indicted Biden or Barack Obama over similar evidence.

Republicans have been in uproar after it emerged that federal investigators obtained data related to the phone usage of several members of Congress, which was used as part of Smith’s prosecutions. Smith hit back in his testimony, saying: “Recent narratives about my team’s work are false and misleading” and the “records were lawfully subpoenaed and were relevant to complete a comprehensive investigation”.

Donald Trump has confirmed that he wore compression socks to treat his cankles amid growing scrutiny over his health as America’s oldest president.

In an explosive interview about his medical treatments, Trump also admitted that he applies makeup to his hands, saying that the large daily dose of aspirin he takes to thin his blood causes them to bruise easily.

Trump takes 325 milligrams of aspirin a day—a much larger dose than the usual 81 milligrams—for “cardiac prevention.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-79-finally-admits-hes-wearing-compression-socks-and-makeup-to-hide-how-sick-he-is/

Compare this with
“ SUMMARY: President Trump remains in excellent health, exhibiting robust cardiac, pulmonary, neurological, and general physical function.”

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/04/memorandum-from-the-white-house-physician/

And if you want a better source than The Daily Beast,
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/01/politics/aspirin-trump-health-dose-bruises-hand

Alleged:

“The phrase “all the blacked-out text was an image layer” refers to a specific incident where confidential information, supposedly redacted in official documents (specifically related to the Jeffrey Epstein legal filings), was easily exposed.
The situation occurred when documents intended to protect sensitive information were improperly redacted using an image layer (like a black box overlaid on text in a PDF) instead of being properly sanitized.
This flawed redaction method meant that users could easily highlight and copy the text underneath the black boxes, revealing the supposedly secret information. The incident highlighted a significant failure in data handling protocols for sensitive legal documents. “

So who here has downloaded the files and had a look at all the text?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Alleged:

“The phrase “all the blacked-out text was an image layer” refers to a specific incident where confidential information, supposedly redacted in official documents (specifically related to the Jeffrey Epstein legal filings), was easily exposed.
The situation occurred when documents intended to protect sensitive information were improperly redacted using an image layer (like a black box overlaid on text in a PDF) instead of being properly sanitized.
This flawed redaction method meant that users could easily highlight and copy the text underneath the black boxes, revealing the supposedly secret information. The incident highlighted a significant failure in data handling protocols for sensitive legal documents. “

So who here has downloaded the files and had a look at all the text?

Not me.

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Alleged:

“The phrase “all the blacked-out text was an image layer” refers to a specific incident where confidential information, supposedly redacted in official documents (specifically related to the Jeffrey Epstein legal filings), was easily exposed.
The situation occurred when documents intended to protect sensitive information were improperly redacted using an image layer (like a black box overlaid on text in a PDF) instead of being properly sanitized.
This flawed redaction method meant that users could easily highlight and copy the text underneath the black boxes, revealing the supposedly secret information. The incident highlighted a significant failure in data handling protocols for sensitive legal documents. “

So who here has downloaded the files and had a look at all the text?

Not me.

no we didn’t either but is it bad if, were we tasked with redact release, we would totally add black rédaction boxes over white space

The Separation: Inside the Unraveling U.S.-Ukraine Partnership

Free NYT article, I am slowly trying to read it.

kii said:

The Separation: Inside the Unraveling U.S.-Ukraine Partnership

Free NYT article, I am slowly trying to read it.

Who’s supposedly the idiot then?

Zelensky, Kellogg, or Lincoln??

party_pants said:

kii said:

The Separation: Inside the Unraveling U.S.-Ukraine Partnership

Free NYT article, I am slowly trying to read it.

Who’s supposedly the idiot then?

Zelensky, Kellogg, or Lincoln??

Every accusation is a confession.

party_pants said:

kii said:

The Separation: Inside the Unraveling U.S.-Ukraine Partnership

Free NYT article, I am slowly trying to read it.

Who’s supposedly the idiot then?

Zelensky, Kellogg, or Lincoln??

Trump.

kii said:

party_pants said:

kii said:

The Separation: Inside the Unraveling U.S.-Ukraine Partnership

Free NYT article, I am slowly trying to read it.

Who’s supposedly the idiot then?

Zelensky, Kellogg, or Lincoln??

Every accusation is a confession.

Donald Trump says US will ‘come to their rescue’ if Iran kills protesters.

So how’s he going to rescue dead people?

roughbarked said:

Donald Trump says US will ‘come to their rescue’ if Iran kills protesters.

So how’s he going to rescue dead people?

His healing hands.

NASA’s largest library at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, which has been a central research hub for the global space agency since 1959, will be permanently closing on Friday (Jan 2). The closure of the 100,000-volume library is part of the Donald Trump administration’s reorganisation drive, under which 13 buildings and over 100 science and engineering laboratories will be shut down on the 1.270-acre campus by March 2026

The NASA Goddard Information and Collaboration Center supported the development of major missions, including the Hubble Space Telescope and the James Webb Space Telescope. Jacob Richmond, a NASA spokesman, informed that the agency will review the library holdings over the next two months, and some of the material will be stored in a government warehouse, while the remaining items will be ‘tossed away’, according to a report in the New York Times.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nasas-largest-library-to-permanently-close-on-jan-2-books-will-be-tossed-away-10170584

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Donald Trump says US will ‘come to their rescue’ if Iran kills protesters.

So how’s he going to rescue dead people?

His healing hands.

Perhaps he will save them from a long and drawn out torturous death full of pain and suffering¡

fkn communist bastards

Tesla is under several federal safety investigations and other probes. In California, Tesla is at risk of temporarily losing its license to sell cars in the state after a judge there ruled it had misled customers about their safety.

SCIENCE said:

fkn communist bastards

Tesla is under several federal safety investigations and other probes. In California, Tesla is at risk of temporarily losing its license to sell cars in the state after a judge there ruled it had misled customers about their safety.

Interesting. BYD are about to take over the #1 spot for bestselling EV worldwide, overtaking (heh) Tesla. But, BYD are not in the American market due to high tariffs etc.

Divine Angel said:

NASA’s largest library at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, which has been a central research hub for the global space agency since 1959, will be permanently closing on Friday (Jan 2). The closure of the 100,000-volume library is part of the Donald Trump administration’s reorganisation drive, under which 13 buildings and over 100 science and engineering laboratories will be shut down on the 1.270-acre campus by March 2026

The NASA Goddard Information and Collaboration Center supported the development of major missions, including the Hubble Space Telescope and the James Webb Space Telescope. Jacob Richmond, a NASA spokesman, informed that the agency will review the library holdings over the next two months, and some of the material will be stored in a government warehouse, while the remaining items will be ‘tossed away’, according to a report in the New York Times.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nasas-largest-library-to-permanently-close-on-jan-2-books-will-be-tossed-away-10170584

Only Trump comix allowed nowadays.

Carrick Ryan

I’ve been doing a lot of research into a popular political movement in the US known as the “Dark Enlightenment”, led by a man named Curtis Yarvin.

Yarvin is a political theorist promoted by billionaire Peter Thiel. He argues that democracy has failed because the masses are ultimately incompetent, indecisive, and incapable of making difficult long-term decisions. He instead advocates for concentrating power in a strong executive or technocratic elite, even if that necessitates fascism.

He’s a man who has been referenced multiple times by Vice President JD Vance and is believed to be the ideological mentor to him and a growing list of tech-oligarchs.

The movement essentially envisions a society which is governed like a corporation, where concepts like civil liberties and welfare programs are dismantled to allow for rapid technological advancement, and power is removed from courts, NGO’s, the media, and universities, and placed exclusively in the hands of a powerful executive “elite” with no democratic accountability.

I kept wondering why this concept could possibly appeal to anyone who wasn’t already rich or powerful, and as such wouldn’t be part of the imagined “elite”. JD Vance, in particular, was a man who grew up poor. Why would he want to deconstruct democracy and hand power to an “elite” that has never shown any interest in the well being of the working class from which he was born?

But then I learned more about the darker side of this ideology. Yarvin is also an unapologetic advocate for the idea that intelligence varies greatly across races, thus creating a natural hierarchy in which the white race and certain asian races are placed above Africans and other supposedly less intelligent races.

Followers of the Dark Enlightenment regularly quote the controversial 1995 book by Charles Murray, The Bell Curve, which argues that intelligence is determined by genetics, and as such inequality is inevitable. But importantly, this book also argues that intelligence varies as a result of race, thus making inequality between races unavoidable.

Or to put it bluntly, Yarvin states himself “I doubt that all races are equally smart.”

It then starts to make a bit more sense… when these men talk about an authoritarian state led by “elites”… they mean led by a white minority. They believe democracy doesn’t work because “less intelligent” races are outnumbering white people, and as such cannot be trusted to govern.

They are essentially arguing for a fascist white minority rule like the apartheid society men like Thiel and Elon Musk grew up in, and continue to defend. These men are not just fringe internet “edge-lords”, they are among the richest and most powerful men in the world with one of their disciples next-in-line for the Presidency.

Oregon’s Bay Area is feeling annoyed.

Nothing says “greatest victory for patient affordability” quite like raising drug prices. According to new data from health care research firm 3 Axis Advisors, first reported by Reuters, at least 350 medications are slated for price hikes in the U.S. in 2026, up from more than 250 drugs last year. The median increase? A tidy 4 percent, because apparently inflation is only “fake news” when it’s politically inconvenient.

This is happening, of course, right as the Trump administration is busy congratulating itself for its “most favored nation” (MFN) drug pricing policy. Under that plan, more than a dozen pharmaceutical companies voluntarily agreed, after being threatened with tariffs, to sell certain drugs to the U.S. at the lowest price they offer anywhere in the world. Trump has called it “the greatest victory for patient affordability in the history of American health care,” which is a bold claim given, well… the price hikes.

Some drugs expected to rise in price are made by companies that signed on to the MFN deal, including Pfizer and GSK. But don’t worry, the administration says a shiny direct-to-consumer platform called TrumpRx is coming in early 2026, to facilitate charging patients more for their medication.

There’s a catch the press conferences skip: the MFN pricing deals only apply to Medicaid. Most Americans are on commercial insurance plans, which means they’re largely excluded from the supposed savings. And since Medicaid already guarantees the lowest price offered to any commercial payer, MFN pricing may amount to little more than a rebranding exercise, like swapping pricing for affordability.

Reuters also notes the projected increases don’t even factor in the usual smoke-and-mirror rebates to pharmacy benefit managers, the same middlemen who help drugmakers keep list prices sky-high while everyone pretends no one’s responsible.

Economists have been blunt about what’s really going on. The Centre for Economic Policy Research argues the root problem isn’t foreign pricing or insufficient branding, but patent monopolies, which MFN pricing doesn’t touch, negotiations don’t challenge, and press releases can’t wish away.

So as the White House celebrates patriotic drug companies and prepares a logo-ready rollout, hundreds of medications are quietly getting more expensive. Turns out you can’t lower prices by applauding monopolies, even if they “love our country.”

JudgeMental said:

Oregon’s Bay Area is feeling annoyed.

Nothing says “greatest victory for patient affordability” quite like raising drug prices. According to new data from health care research firm 3 Axis Advisors, first reported by Reuters, at least 350 medications are slated for price hikes in the U.S. in 2026, up from more than 250 drugs last year. The median increase? A tidy 4 percent, because apparently inflation is only “fake news” when it’s politically inconvenient.

This is happening, of course, right as the Trump administration is busy congratulating itself for its “most favored nation” (MFN) drug pricing policy. Under that plan, more than a dozen pharmaceutical companies voluntarily agreed, after being threatened with tariffs, to sell certain drugs to the U.S. at the lowest price they offer anywhere in the world. Trump has called it “the greatest victory for patient affordability in the history of American health care,” which is a bold claim given, well… the price hikes.

Some drugs expected to rise in price are made by companies that signed on to the MFN deal, including Pfizer and GSK. But don’t worry, the administration says a shiny direct-to-consumer platform called TrumpRx is coming in early 2026, to facilitate charging patients more for their medication.

There’s a catch the press conferences skip: the MFN pricing deals only apply to Medicaid. Most Americans are on commercial insurance plans, which means they’re largely excluded from the supposed savings. And since Medicaid already guarantees the lowest price offered to any commercial payer, MFN pricing may amount to little more than a rebranding exercise, like swapping pricing for affordability.

Reuters also notes the projected increases don’t even factor in the usual smoke-and-mirror rebates to pharmacy benefit managers, the same middlemen who help drugmakers keep list prices sky-high while everyone pretends no one’s responsible.

Economists have been blunt about what’s really going on. The Centre for Economic Policy Research argues the root problem isn’t foreign pricing or insufficient branding, but patent monopolies, which MFN pricing doesn’t touch, negotiations don’t challenge, and press releases can’t wish away.

So as the White House celebrates patriotic drug companies and prepares a logo-ready rollout, hundreds of medications are quietly getting more expensive. Turns out you can’t lower prices by applauding monopolies, even if they “love our country.”

Drugs are bad.

JudgeMental said:

Carrick Ryan

I’ve been doing a lot of research into a popular political movement in the US known as the “Dark Enlightenment”, led by a man named Curtis Yarvin.

Yarvin is a political theorist promoted by billionaire Peter Thiel. He argues that democracy has failed because the masses are ultimately incompetent, indecisive, and incapable of making difficult long-term decisions. He instead advocates for concentrating power in a strong executive or technocratic elite, even if that necessitates fascism.

He’s a man who has been referenced multiple times by Vice President JD Vance and is believed to be the ideological mentor to him and a growing list of tech-oligarchs.

The movement essentially envisions a society which is governed like a corporation, where concepts like civil liberties and welfare programs are dismantled to allow for rapid technological advancement, and power is removed from courts, NGO’s, the media, and universities, and placed exclusively in the hands of a powerful executive “elite” with no democratic accountability.

I kept wondering why this concept could possibly appeal to anyone who wasn’t already rich or powerful, and as such wouldn’t be part of the imagined “elite”. JD Vance, in particular, was a man who grew up poor. Why would he want to deconstruct democracy and hand power to an “elite” that has never shown any interest in the well being of the working class from which he was born?

But then I learned more about the darker side of this ideology. Yarvin is also an unapologetic advocate for the idea that intelligence varies greatly across races, thus creating a natural hierarchy in which the white race and certain asian races are placed above Africans and other supposedly less intelligent races.

Followers of the Dark Enlightenment regularly quote the controversial 1995 book by Charles Murray, The Bell Curve, which argues that intelligence is determined by genetics, and as such inequality is inevitable. But importantly, this book also argues that intelligence varies as a result of race, thus making inequality between races unavoidable.

Or to put it bluntly, Yarvin states himself “I doubt that all races are equally smart.”

It then starts to make a bit more sense… when these men talk about an authoritarian state led by “elites”… they mean led by a white minority. They believe democracy doesn’t work because “less intelligent” races are outnumbering white people, and as such cannot be trusted to govern.

They are essentially arguing for a fascist white minority rule like the apartheid society men like Thiel and Elon Musk grew up in, and continue to defend. These men are not just fringe internet “edge-lords”, they are among the richest and most powerful men in the world with one of their disciples next-in-line for the Presidency.

Perfect, SNAFU.

JudgeMental said:

Oregon’s Bay Area is feeling annoyed.

Nothing says “greatest victory for patient affordability” quite like raising drug prices. According to new data from health care research firm 3 Axis Advisors, first reported by Reuters, at least 350 medications are slated for price hikes in the U.S. in 2026, up from more than 250 drugs last year. The median increase? A tidy 4 percent, because apparently inflation is only “fake news” when it’s politically inconvenient.

This is happening, of course, right as the Trump administration is busy congratulating itself for its “most favored nation” (MFN) drug pricing policy. Under that plan, more than a dozen pharmaceutical companies voluntarily agreed, after being threatened with tariffs, to sell certain drugs to the U.S. at the lowest price they offer anywhere in the world. Trump has called it “the greatest victory for patient affordability in the history of American health care,” which is a bold claim given, well… the price hikes.

Some drugs expected to rise in price are made by companies that signed on to the MFN deal, including Pfizer and GSK. But don’t worry, the administration says a shiny direct-to-consumer platform called TrumpRx is coming in early 2026, to facilitate charging patients more for their medication.

There’s a catch the press conferences skip: the MFN pricing deals only apply to Medicaid. Most Americans are on commercial insurance plans, which means they’re largely excluded from the supposed savings. And since Medicaid already guarantees the lowest price offered to any commercial payer, MFN pricing may amount to little more than a rebranding exercise, like swapping pricing for affordability.

Reuters also notes the projected increases don’t even factor in the usual smoke-and-mirror rebates to pharmacy benefit managers, the same middlemen who help drugmakers keep list prices sky-high while everyone pretends no one’s responsible.

Economists have been blunt about what’s really going on. The Centre for Economic Policy Research argues the root problem isn’t foreign pricing or insufficient branding, but patent monopolies, which MFN pricing doesn’t touch, negotiations don’t challenge, and press releases can’t wish away.

So as the White House celebrates patriotic drug companies and prepares a logo-ready rollout, hundreds of medications are quietly getting more expensive. Turns out you can’t lower prices by applauding monopolies, even if they “love our country.”

Yet another; perfect, SNAFU.

Peak Warming Man said:

Drugs are bad.

#no tall drugs.

JudgeMental said:

Carrick Ryan

I’ve been doing a lot of research into a popular political movement in the US known as the “Dark Enlightenment”, led by a man named Curtis Yarvin.

Yarvin is a political theorist promoted by billionaire Peter Thiel. He argues that democracy has failed because the masses are ultimately incompetent, indecisive, and incapable of making difficult long-term decisions. He instead advocates for concentrating power in a strong executive or technocratic elite, even if that necessitates fascism.

He’s a man who has been referenced multiple times by Vice President JD Vance and is believed to be the ideological mentor to him and a growing list of tech-oligarchs.

The movement essentially envisions a society which is governed like a corporation, where concepts like civil liberties and welfare programs are dismantled to allow for rapid technological advancement, and power is removed from courts, NGO’s, the media, and universities, and placed exclusively in the hands of a powerful executive “elite” with no democratic accountability.

I kept wondering why this concept could possibly appeal to anyone who wasn’t already rich or powerful, and as such wouldn’t be part of the imagined “elite”. JD Vance, in particular, was a man who grew up poor. Why would he want to deconstruct democracy and hand power to an “elite” that has never shown any interest in the well being of the working class from which he was born?

But then I learned more about the darker side of this ideology. Yarvin is also an unapologetic advocate for the idea that intelligence varies greatly across races, thus creating a natural hierarchy in which the white race and certain asian races are placed above Africans and other supposedly less intelligent races.

Followers of the Dark Enlightenment regularly quote the controversial 1995 book by Charles Murray, The Bell Curve, which argues that intelligence is determined by genetics, and as such inequality is inevitable. But importantly, this book also argues that intelligence varies as a result of race, thus making inequality between races unavoidable.

Or to put it bluntly, Yarvin states himself “I doubt that all races are equally smart.”

It then starts to make a bit more sense… when these men talk about an authoritarian state led by “elites”… they mean led by a white minority. They believe democracy doesn’t work because “less intelligent” races are outnumbering white people, and as such cannot be trusted to govern.

They are essentially arguing for a fascist white minority rule like the apartheid society men like Thiel and Elon Musk grew up in, and continue to defend. These men are not just fringe internet “edge-lords”, they are among the richest and most powerful men in the world with one of their disciples next-in-line for the Presidency.

I’m not sure a whole country can be run like a private members country club.

You could maybe scale it up to run a small town or city on that basis, but I don’t think ot could scale up to a whole country.

If history is any guide, this sort of thing inevitably leads to revolutions and elites being dragged out into the streets and executed. Has happened before.

party_pants said:

JudgeMental said:

Carrick Ryan

I’ve been doing a lot of research into a popular political movement in the US known as the “Dark Enlightenment”, led by a man named Curtis Yarvin.

Yarvin is a political theorist promoted by billionaire Peter Thiel. He argues that democracy has failed because the masses are ultimately incompetent, indecisive, and incapable of making difficult long-term decisions. He instead advocates for concentrating power in a strong executive or technocratic elite, even if that necessitates fascism.

He’s a man who has been referenced multiple times by Vice President JD Vance and is believed to be the ideological mentor to him and a growing list of tech-oligarchs.

The movement essentially envisions a society which is governed like a corporation, where concepts like civil liberties and welfare programs are dismantled to allow for rapid technological advancement, and power is removed from courts, NGO’s, the media, and universities, and placed exclusively in the hands of a powerful executive “elite” with no democratic accountability.

I kept wondering why this concept could possibly appeal to anyone who wasn’t already rich or powerful, and as such wouldn’t be part of the imagined “elite”. JD Vance, in particular, was a man who grew up poor. Why would he want to deconstruct democracy and hand power to an “elite” that has never shown any interest in the well being of the working class from which he was born?

But then I learned more about the darker side of this ideology. Yarvin is also an unapologetic advocate for the idea that intelligence varies greatly across races, thus creating a natural hierarchy in which the white race and certain asian races are placed above Africans and other supposedly less intelligent races.

Followers of the Dark Enlightenment regularly quote the controversial 1995 book by Charles Murray, The Bell Curve, which argues that intelligence is determined by genetics, and as such inequality is inevitable. But importantly, this book also argues that intelligence varies as a result of race, thus making inequality between races unavoidable.

Or to put it bluntly, Yarvin states himself “I doubt that all races are equally smart.”

It then starts to make a bit more sense… when these men talk about an authoritarian state led by “elites”… they mean led by a white minority. They believe democracy doesn’t work because “less intelligent” races are outnumbering white people, and as such cannot be trusted to govern.

They are essentially arguing for a fascist white minority rule like the apartheid society men like Thiel and Elon Musk grew up in, and continue to defend. These men are not just fringe internet “edge-lords”, they are among the richest and most powerful men in the world with one of their disciples next-in-line for the Presidency.

If history is any guide, this sort of thing inevitably leads to revolutions and elites being dragged out into the streets and executed. Has happened before.

forms orderly queue for viewing area

party_pants said:

JudgeMental said:

Carrick Ryan

I’ve been doing a lot of research into a popular political movement in the US known as the “Dark Enlightenment”, led by a man named Curtis Yarvin.

Yarvin is a political theorist promoted by billionaire Peter Thiel. He argues that democracy has failed because the masses are ultimately incompetent, indecisive, and incapable of making difficult long-term decisions. He instead advocates for concentrating power in a strong executive or technocratic elite, even if that necessitates fascism.

He’s a man who has been referenced multiple times by Vice President JD Vance and is believed to be the ideological mentor to him and a growing list of tech-oligarchs.

The movement essentially envisions a society which is governed like a corporation, where concepts like civil liberties and welfare programs are dismantled to allow for rapid technological advancement, and power is removed from courts, NGO’s, the media, and universities, and placed exclusively in the hands of a powerful executive “elite” with no democratic accountability.

I kept wondering why this concept could possibly appeal to anyone who wasn’t already rich or powerful, and as such wouldn’t be part of the imagined “elite”. JD Vance, in particular, was a man who grew up poor. Why would he want to deconstruct democracy and hand power to an “elite” that has never shown any interest in the well being of the working class from which he was born?

But then I learned more about the darker side of this ideology. Yarvin is also an unapologetic advocate for the idea that intelligence varies greatly across races, thus creating a natural hierarchy in which the white race and certain asian races are placed above Africans and other supposedly less intelligent races.

Followers of the Dark Enlightenment regularly quote the controversial 1995 book by Charles Murray, The Bell Curve, which argues that intelligence is determined by genetics, and as such inequality is inevitable. But importantly, this book also argues that intelligence varies as a result of race, thus making inequality between races unavoidable.

Or to put it bluntly, Yarvin states himself “I doubt that all races are equally smart.”

It then starts to make a bit more sense… when these men talk about an authoritarian state led by “elites”… they mean led by a white minority. They believe democracy doesn’t work because “less intelligent” races are outnumbering white people, and as such cannot be trusted to govern.

They are essentially arguing for a fascist white minority rule like the apartheid society men like Thiel and Elon Musk grew up in, and continue to defend. These men are not just fringe internet “edge-lords”, they are among the richest and most powerful men in the world with one of their disciples next-in-line for the Presidency.

I’m not sure a whole country can be run like a private members country club.

You could maybe scale it up to run a small town or city on that basis, but I don’t think ot could scale up to a whole country.

If history is any guide, this sort of thing inevitably leads to revolutions and elites being dragged out into the streets and executed. Has happened before.

I’ll say.

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

JudgeMental said:

Carrick Ryan

I’ve been doing a lot of research into a popular political movement in the US known as the “Dark Enlightenment”, led by a man named Curtis Yarvin.

Yarvin is a political theorist promoted by billionaire Peter Thiel. He argues that democracy has failed because the masses are ultimately incompetent, indecisive, and incapable of making difficult long-term decisions. He instead advocates for concentrating power in a strong executive or technocratic elite, even if that necessitates fascism.

He’s a man who has been referenced multiple times by Vice President JD Vance and is believed to be the ideological mentor to him and a growing list of tech-oligarchs.

The movement essentially envisions a society which is governed like a corporation, where concepts like civil liberties and welfare programs are dismantled to allow for rapid technological advancement, and power is removed from courts, NGO’s, the media, and universities, and placed exclusively in the hands of a powerful executive “elite” with no democratic accountability.

I kept wondering why this concept could possibly appeal to anyone who wasn’t already rich or powerful, and as such wouldn’t be part of the imagined “elite”. JD Vance, in particular, was a man who grew up poor. Why would he want to deconstruct democracy and hand power to an “elite” that has never shown any interest in the well being of the working class from which he was born?

But then I learned more about the darker side of this ideology. Yarvin is also an unapologetic advocate for the idea that intelligence varies greatly across races, thus creating a natural hierarchy in which the white race and certain asian races are placed above Africans and other supposedly less intelligent races.

Followers of the Dark Enlightenment regularly quote the controversial 1995 book by Charles Murray, The Bell Curve, which argues that intelligence is determined by genetics, and as such inequality is inevitable. But importantly, this book also argues that intelligence varies as a result of race, thus making inequality between races unavoidable.

Or to put it bluntly, Yarvin states himself “I doubt that all races are equally smart.”

It then starts to make a bit more sense… when these men talk about an authoritarian state led by “elites”… they mean led by a white minority. They believe democracy doesn’t work because “less intelligent” races are outnumbering white people, and as such cannot be trusted to govern.

They are essentially arguing for a fascist white minority rule like the apartheid society men like Thiel and Elon Musk grew up in, and continue to defend. These men are not just fringe internet “edge-lords”, they are among the richest and most powerful men in the world with one of their disciples next-in-line for the Presidency.

If history is any guide, this sort of thing inevitably leads to revolutions and elites being dragged out into the streets and executed. Has happened before.

forms orderly queue for viewing area

LOL

:)

party_pants said:

JudgeMental said:

Carrick Ryan

I’ve been doing a lot of research into a popular political movement in the US known as the “Dark Enlightenment”, led by a man named Curtis Yarvin.

Yarvin is a political theorist promoted by billionaire Peter Thiel. He argues that democracy has failed because the masses are ultimately incompetent, indecisive, and incapable of making difficult long-term decisions. He instead advocates for concentrating power in a strong executive or technocratic elite, even if that necessitates fascism.

He’s a man who has been referenced multiple times by Vice President JD Vance and is believed to be the ideological mentor to him and a growing list of tech-oligarchs.

The movement essentially envisions a society which is governed like a corporation, where concepts like civil liberties and welfare programs are dismantled to allow for rapid technological advancement, and power is removed from courts, NGO’s, the media, and universities, and placed exclusively in the hands of a powerful executive “elite” with no democratic accountability.

I kept wondering why this concept could possibly appeal to anyone who wasn’t already rich or powerful, and as such wouldn’t be part of the imagined “elite”. JD Vance, in particular, was a man who grew up poor. Why would he want to deconstruct democracy and hand power to an “elite” that has never shown any interest in the well being of the working class from which he was born?

But then I learned more about the darker side of this ideology. Yarvin is also an unapologetic advocate for the idea that intelligence varies greatly across races, thus creating a natural hierarchy in which the white race and certain asian races are placed above Africans and other supposedly less intelligent races.

Followers of the Dark Enlightenment regularly quote the controversial 1995 book by Charles Murray, The Bell Curve, which argues that intelligence is determined by genetics, and as such inequality is inevitable. But importantly, this book also argues that intelligence varies as a result of race, thus making inequality between races unavoidable.

Or to put it bluntly, Yarvin states himself “I doubt that all races are equally smart.”

It then starts to make a bit more sense… when these men talk about an authoritarian state led by “elites”… they mean led by a white minority. They believe democracy doesn’t work because “less intelligent” races are outnumbering white people, and as such cannot be trusted to govern.

They are essentially arguing for a fascist white minority rule like the apartheid society men like Thiel and Elon Musk grew up in, and continue to defend. These men are not just fringe internet “edge-lords”, they are among the richest and most powerful men in the world with one of their disciples next-in-line for the Presidency.

I’m not sure a whole country can be run like a private members country club.

You could maybe scale it up to run a small town or city on that basis, but I don’t think ot could scale up to a whole country.

If history is any guide, this sort of thing inevitably leads to revolutions and elites being dragged out into the streets and executed. Has happened before.

Phoaw, how good would that be while singing the Internationale.

Venzie¡ Venzie¡ Venzie¡ Oil¡ Oil¡ Oil¡

SCIENCE said:

Venzie¡ Venzie¡ Venzie¡ Oil¡ Oil¡ Oil¡

Far Canal!

I guess DJT has given up on the tamed-nitroglycerin peace prize.

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

Venzie¡ Venzie¡ Venzie¡ Oil¡ Oil¡ Oil¡

Far Canal!

I guess DJT has given up on the tamed-nitroglycerin peace prize.

Here.

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

Venzie¡ Venzie¡ Venzie¡ Oil¡ Oil¡ Oil¡

Far Canal!

I guess DJT has given up on the tamed-nitroglycerin peace prize.

Here.

Absolute moronic dangerous clown.

Kingy said:

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Far Canal!

I guess DJT has given up on the tamed-nitroglycerin peace prize.

Here.

Absolute moronic dangerous clown.

Yeah.

What’s the difference between this and Ukraine?

Kingy said:

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Far Canal!

I guess DJT has given up on the tamed-nitroglycerin peace prize.

Here.

Absolute moronic dangerous clown.

Vile creature indeed.

Michael V said:

Kingy said:

Michael V said:

Here.

Absolute moronic dangerous clown.

Yeah.

What’s the difference between this and Ukraine?

Trump stopped that war.

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Kingy said:

Absolute moronic dangerous clown.

Yeah.

What’s the difference between this and Ukraine?

Trump stopped that war.

So he says.

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Kingy said:

Absolute moronic dangerous clown.

Yeah.

What’s the difference between this and Ukraine?

Trump stopped that war.

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Yeah.

What’s the difference between this and Ukraine?

Trump stopped that war.

New year, new war

>Donald Trump says US forces have captured Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro

Good if true. But what happens next?

Maduro is a dictator responsible for many human rights abuses. He’s a also a good chum and ally of Putin.

Bubblecar said:

>Donald Trump says US forces have captured Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro

Good if true. But what happens next?

Maduro is a dictator responsible for many human rights abuses. He’s a also a good chum and ally of Putin.

The BBC are reporting it.

Bubblecar said:

>Donald Trump says US forces have captured Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro

Good if true. But what happens next?

Maduro is a dictator responsible for many human rights abuses. He’s a also a good chum and ally of Putin.

Maduro won’t be a loss, but the odds of things improving in Venezuela have not increased.

Kingy said:

Bubblecar said:

>Donald Trump says US forces have captured Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro

Good if true. But what happens next?

Maduro is a dictator responsible for many human rights abuses. He’s a also a good chum and ally of Putin.

Maduro won’t be a loss, but the odds of things improving in Venezuela have not increased.

He’s in the Ms., should Mamdani be worried?

Kingy said:

Bubblecar said:

>Donald Trump says US forces have captured Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro

Good if true. But what happens next?

Maduro is a dictator responsible for many human rights abuses. He’s a also a good chum and ally of Putin.

Maduro won’t be a loss, but the odds of things improving in Venezuela have not increased.

May get a good deal worse, who knows.

Bubblecar said:

>Donald Trump says US forces have captured Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro

Good if true. But what happens next?

Maduro is a dictator responsible for many human rights abuses. He’s a also a good chum and ally of Putin.

And the US has a long history of backing right wing dictatorships.

Kingy said:

Bubblecar said:

>Donald Trump says US forces have captured Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro

Good if true. But what happens next?

Maduro is a dictator responsible for many human rights abuses. He’s a also a good chum and ally of Putin.

Maduro won’t be a loss, but the odds of things improving in Venezuela have not increased.

Removing the leader of a badly misfunctioning country by outside military force always makes the situation worse.

Peak Warming Man said:

Kingy said:

Bubblecar said:

>Donald Trump says US forces have captured Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro

Good if true. But what happens next?

Maduro is a dictator responsible for many human rights abuses. He’s a also a good chum and ally of Putin.

Maduro won’t be a loss, but the odds of things improving in Venezuela have not increased.

He’s in the Ms., should Mamdani be worried?

I doubt trump knows the alphabet, so no.

party_pants said:

Kingy said:

Bubblecar said:

>Donald Trump says US forces have captured Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro

Good if true. But what happens next?

Maduro is a dictator responsible for many human rights abuses. He’s a also a good chum and ally of Putin.

Maduro won’t be a loss, but the odds of things improving in Venezuela have not increased.

Removing the leader of a badly misfunctioning country by outside military force always makes the situation worse.

abd the place is already awash with guns.

When asked about whether he sought congressional approval for the military strikes he said.

“A lot of good planning and lot of great, great troops and great people,” Trump told the newspaper.
“It was a brilliant operation, actually.”

Peak Warming Man said:

When asked about whether he sought congressional approval for the military strikes he said.

“A lot of good planning and lot of great, great troops and great people,” Trump told the newspaper.
“It was a brilliant operation, actually.”

I suppose we’ll have to wait until the main sources of news on this matter is not the shitgibbon.

I don’t think you have to be a Maduro-fan to find this a troubling development.

When asked if kidnapping foreign leaders was legal, he said.
“A lot of good planning and lot of great, great troops and great people,” Trump told the newspaper.
“It was a brilliant operation, actually.”

Peak Warming Man said:

When asked if kidnapping foreign leaders was legal, he said.
“A lot of good planning and lot of great, great troops and great people,” Trump told the newspaper.
“It was a brilliant operation, actually.”

Cool, so can Australia kidnap trump and chuck him in jail?

dv said:

I don’t think you have to be a Maduro-fan to find this a troubling development.

It’s just bullying, plain and simple. Pick on somebody weak, for made up reasons.

party_pants said:

party_pants said:

Kingy said:

Maduro won’t be a loss, but the odds of things improving in Venezuela have not increased.

Removing the leader of a badly misfunctioning country by outside military force always makes the situation worse.

abd the place is already awash with guns.

They will mess it up more, they excel at that.

party_pants said:

dv said:

I don’t think you have to be a Maduro-fan to find this a troubling development.

It’s just bullying, plain and simple. Pick on somebody weak, for made up reasons.

Nothing like a sudden, arbitrary war to get people to forget about ‘files’ and things.

Odds against DT getting a Nobel Peace Prize just went through the roof, though.

“FREEDOM MOVES FORWARD. LONG LIVE FREEDOM DAMMIT”.

Argentine president Javier Milei

.
Ah huh

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

I don’t think you have to be a Maduro-fan to find this a troubling development.

It’s just bullying, plain and simple. Pick on somebody weak, for made up reasons.

Nothing like a sudden, arbitrary war to get people to forget about ‘files’ and things.

Odds against DT getting a Nobel Peace Prize just went through the roof, though.

Mr Trump gave few specifics about how the US would run Venezuela.

“We’re going to be running it with a group and we’re going to make sure it’s run properly,” he said.

He indicated his cabinet would initially be in charge.

“It’s largely going to be, for a period of time, the people that are standing behind me,” he told the press conference, where he was flanked by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth and others.

Mr Trump also said the US was “ready to stage a second and much larger attack if we need to”.

Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Trump stopped that war.

New year, new war

exactly, they should give him the prize for all the good things he did in 2025, this is a separate matter

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

It’s just bullying, plain and simple. Pick on somebody weak, for made up reasons.

Nothing like a sudden, arbitrary war to get people to forget about ‘files’ and things.

Odds against DT getting a Nobel Peace Prize just went through the roof, though.

Mr Trump gave few specifics about how the US would run Venezuela.

“We’re going to be running it with a group and we’re going to make sure it’s run properly,” he said.

He indicated his cabinet would initially be in charge.

“It’s largely going to be, for a period of time, the people that are standing behind me,” he told the press conference, where he was flanked by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth and others.

Mr Trump also said the US was “ready to stage a second and much larger attack if we need to”.

fuck CHINA and their foreign interfering independence disrespecting regional bullying

dv said:

a troubling development

no it’s not, they told us he wasn’t a legitimate leader so this is all fine

party_pants said:

dv said:

I don’t think you have to be a Maduro-fan to find this a troubling development.

It’s just bullying, plain and simple. Pick on somebody weak, for made up reasons.

It seems the US is wanting Venezuela’s oil. Trump: “we’re going in there with multibillion dollar companies going in to drill the oil”.

Kinda seems like the whole Iraq-Kuwait situation.

There’s other, political, reasons too, like implanting a US butt-kisser as president.

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

I don’t think you have to be a Maduro-fan to find this a troubling development.

It’s just bullying, plain and simple. Pick on somebody weak, for made up reasons.

It seems the US is wanting Venezuela’s oil. Trump: “we’re going in there with multibillion dollar companies going in to drill the oil”.

Kinda seems like the whole Iraq-Kuwait situation.

There’s other, political, reasons too, like implanting a US butt-kisser as president.

so it’s good news for the average Venezuelan on the street then, they get USSAmerican prosperity and stable good governance

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

It’s just bullying, plain and simple. Pick on somebody weak, for made up reasons.

It seems the US is wanting Venezuela’s oil. Trump: “we’re going in there with multibillion dollar companies going in to drill the oil”.

Kinda seems like the whole Iraq-Kuwait situation.

There’s other, political, reasons too, like implanting a US butt-kisser as president.

so it’s good news for the average Venezuelan on the street then, they get USSAmerican prosperity and stable good governance

And we end up with films.

Movies. That’d be right. They figured that out after WWII.

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

a troubling development

no it’s not, they told us he wasn’t a legitimate leader so this is all fine

and what’s so legitimate about Trump then?

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

I don’t think you have to be a Maduro-fan to find this a troubling development.

It’s just bullying, plain and simple. Pick on somebody weak, for made up reasons.

It seems the US is wanting Venezuela’s oil. Trump: “we’re going in there with multibillion dollar companies going in to drill the oil”.

Kinda seems like the whole Iraq-Kuwait situation.

There’s other, political, reasons too, like implanting a US butt-kisser as president.

Yeah. Trump has been on about drill baby drill. Obviously pushed by his US oil interests

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

It’s just bullying, plain and simple. Pick on somebody weak, for made up reasons.

It seems the US is wanting Venezuela’s oil. Trump: “we’re going in there with multibillion dollar companies going in to drill the oil”.

Kinda seems like the whole Iraq-Kuwait situation.

There’s other, political, reasons too, like implanting a US butt-kisser as president.

so it’s good news for the average Venezuelan on the street then, they get USSAmerican prosperity and stable good governance

Ha.

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

It seems the US is wanting Venezuela’s oil. Trump: “we’re going in there with multibillion dollar companies going in to drill the oil”.

Kinda seems like the whole Iraq-Kuwait situation.

There’s other, political, reasons too, like implanting a US butt-kisser as president.

so it’s good news for the average Venezuelan on the street then, they get USSAmerican prosperity and stable good governance

And we end up with films.

Over and over again.

US President Donald Trump said the United States will “run” Venezuela and tap its huge oil reserves after snatching leftist leader Nicolas Maduro out of the country during a bombing raid on Caracas.

Trump’s announcement came hours after a rapid attack in which special forces grabbed Maduro and his wife, while airstrikes pounded multiple sites, stunning the capital city.

Trump did not go into detail what he meant but told a press conference in Florida: “We’re going to be running it with a group.“q

“We’re designating people,” he said, mentioning that cabinet officials standing with him would be in charge.

In another surprise, Trump indicated that US troops could be deployed in Venezuela.

The US is “not afraid of boots on the ground,” he said.

Although the operation is being framed as a law-enforcement action, Trump made clear that regime change and Venezuela’s oil riches are the major goals.

“We’re going to have our very large United States oil companies, the biggest anywhere in the world, go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure,” he said.

“We’ll be selling large amounts of oil,” he said.

——

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/us-run-venezuela-maduro/l4l6p8ky7

Refreshingly candid

dv said:

US President Donald Trump said the United States will “run” Venezuela and tap its huge oil reserves after snatching leftist leader Nicolas Maduro out of the country during a bombing raid on Caracas.

Trump’s announcement came hours after a rapid attack in which special forces grabbed Maduro and his wife, while airstrikes pounded multiple sites, stunning the capital city.

Trump did not go into detail what he meant but told a press conference in Florida: “We’re going to be running it with a group.“q

“We’re designating people,” he said, mentioning that cabinet officials standing with him would be in charge.

In another surprise, Trump indicated that US troops could be deployed in Venezuela.

The US is “not afraid of boots on the ground,” he said.

Although the operation is being framed as a law-enforcement action, Trump made clear that regime change and Venezuela’s oil riches are the major goals.

“We’re going to have our very large United States oil companies, the biggest anywhere in the world, go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure,” he said.

“We’ll be selling large amounts of oil,” he said.

——

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/us-run-venezuela-maduro/l4l6p8ky7

Refreshingly candid

Indeed. It seems quite clear.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

US President Donald Trump said the United States will “run” Venezuela and tap its huge oil reserves after snatching leftist leader Nicolas Maduro out of the country during a bombing raid on Caracas.

Trump’s announcement came hours after a rapid attack in which special forces grabbed Maduro and his wife, while airstrikes pounded multiple sites, stunning the capital city.

Trump did not go into detail what he meant but told a press conference in Florida: “We’re going to be running it with a group.“q

“We’re designating people,” he said, mentioning that cabinet officials standing with him would be in charge.

In another surprise, Trump indicated that US troops could be deployed in Venezuela.

The US is “not afraid of boots on the ground,” he said.

Although the operation is being framed as a law-enforcement action, Trump made clear that regime change and Venezuela’s oil riches are the major goals.

“We’re going to have our very large United States oil companies, the biggest anywhere in the world, go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure,” he said.

“We’ll be selling large amounts of oil,” he said.

——

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/us-run-venezuela-maduro/l4l6p8ky7

Refreshingly candid

Indeed. It seems quite clear.

And they reckon Hitler was a cunt!

Ian said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

US President Donald Trump said the United States will “run” Venezuela and tap its huge oil reserves after snatching leftist leader Nicolas Maduro out of the country during a bombing raid on Caracas.

Trump’s announcement came hours after a rapid attack in which special forces grabbed Maduro and his wife, while airstrikes pounded multiple sites, stunning the capital city.

Trump did not go into detail what he meant but told a press conference in Florida: “We’re going to be running it with a group.“q

“We’re designating people,” he said, mentioning that cabinet officials standing with him would be in charge.

In another surprise, Trump indicated that US troops could be deployed in Venezuela.

The US is “not afraid of boots on the ground,” he said.

Although the operation is being framed as a law-enforcement action, Trump made clear that regime change and Venezuela’s oil riches are the major goals.

“We’re going to have our very large United States oil companies, the biggest anywhere in the world, go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure,” he said.

“We’ll be selling large amounts of oil,” he said.

——

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/us-run-venezuela-maduro/l4l6p8ky7

Refreshingly candid

Indeed. It seems quite clear.

And they reckon Hitler was a cunt!

So it’s an armed robbery and kidnapping.

dv said:

I suppose shedding tears or not shedding tears is the only option people can expect from the UK in this matter.

Some apt comments here

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

I suppose shedding tears or not shedding tears is the only option people can expect from the UK in this matter.

To be fair, I can’t see most countries being able to do much. Russia and China could have a crack, but it’d end up as WWIII. Other countries could express displeasure, but that’s about the most extreme action that could be done.

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

I suppose shedding tears or not shedding tears is the only option people can expect from the UK in this matter.

To be fair, I can’t see most countries being able to do much. Russia and China could have a crack, but it’d end up as WWIII. Other countries could express displeasure, but that’s about the most extreme action that could be done.

The UN is having a meeting about it as well.

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

I suppose shedding tears or not shedding tears is the only option people can expect from the UK in this matter.

To be fair, I can’t see most countries being able to do much. Russia and China could have a crack, but it’d end up as WWIII. Other countries could express displeasure, but that’s about the most extreme action that could be done.

The UN is having a meeting about it as well.

USA doesn’t give a shit what anyone says. What ya gunna do about it?

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

I suppose shedding tears or not shedding tears is the only option people can expect from the UK in this matter.

To be fair, I can’t see most countries being able to do much. Russia and China could have a crack, but it’d end up as WWIII. Other countries could express displeasure, but that’s about the most extreme action that could be done.

The UN is having a meeting about it as well.

and possibly more than one.

JudgeMental said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

To be fair, I can’t see most countries being able to do much. Russia and China could have a crack, but it’d end up as WWIII. Other countries could express displeasure, but that’s about the most extreme action that could be done.

The UN is having a meeting about it as well.

USA doesn’t give a shit what anyone says. What ya gunna do about it?

The UN doesn’t seem to do much except have meetings and condemn actions anyway.

When asked if he was going to run the oil rich country himself he said.
“A lot of good planning and lot of great, great troops and great people,” Trump told the newspaper.
“It was a brilliant operation, actually.”

There does seem to be some disagreement within the US admin, as Rubio is indicating that major operations are over, while DJT has run on talking about regime change and boots on the ground.

Maduro’s absence means his VP Delcy Rodriguez becomes acting President. The other arms of the government carry on.

dv said:

There does seem to be some disagreement within the US admin, as Rubio is indicating that major operations are over, while DJT has run on talking about regime change and boots on the ground.

Maduro’s absence means his VP Delcy Rodriguez becomes acting President. The other arms of the government carry on.

I give it a week before the whole country falls apart and things turn to shit.

The country is awash with guns. The previous dictator handed out free AK-74s to his “supporters” during his reign. They have not been handed back. Expect different groups to start fighting amongst themselves for whatever spoils they can take from the collapse of the old regime.

Once the Venezuelan oil starts flowing into the US, and likely reducing fuel prices (after the oil compnaies take their cut), the American public – especially trump’s maga supporters will be all for the action.

AussieDJ said:

Once the Venezuelan oil starts flowing into the US, and likely reducing fuel prices (after the oil compnaies take their cut), the American public – especially trump’s maga supporters will be all for the action.

Unlikely. The US is a net oil exporter and doesn’t need their oil. Most of it will probably be sold in Europe.

party_pants said:

I give it a week before the whole country falls apart and things turn to shit.

The country is awash with guns. The previous dictator handed out free AK-74s to his “supporters” during his reign. They have not been handed back. Expect different groups to start fighting amongst themselves for whatever spoils they can take from the collapse of the old regime.

For a second I thought you were talking about the US.

party_pants said:

dv said:

There does seem to be some disagreement within the US admin, as Rubio is indicating that major operations are over, while DJT has run on talking about regime change and boots on the ground.

Maduro’s absence means his VP Delcy Rodriguez becomes acting President. The other arms of the government carry on.

I give it a week before the whole country falls apart and things turn to shit.

The country is awash with guns. The previous dictator handed out free AK-74s to his “supporters” during his reign. They have not been handed back. Expect different groups to start fighting amongst themselves for whatever spoils they can take from the collapse of the old regime.

None of that matters to the US.

As long as the American oil and mining companies’ operations are not molested, the Venezuelans can slaughter each other as much as they like.

To that end, firms like Exxon and Newmont will probably pay bribes to various Venezuelan factions of various viewpoints to ensure that their operations aren’t interfered with. Of course, they’ll have their own ‘security’ like Academi (formerly Blackwater) on site, just to make sure.

I suggest that the American firms will move in very quickly, indeed, to take advantage of the chaos/celebrations caused by Maduro’s removal. While Democrat Senate minority leader Dick Schumer may not have been briefed on the planning for this military venture, i’d bet that the oil and mining firms were well aware of it.

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

I give it a week before the whole country falls apart and things turn to shit.

The country is awash with guns. The previous dictator handed out free AK-74s to his “supporters” during his reign. They have not been handed back. Expect different groups to start fighting amongst themselves for whatever spoils they can take from the collapse of the old regime.

For a second I thought you were talking about the US.

No, you can’t get assault rifles for free in the US.

Not yet.

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

I give it a week before the whole country falls apart and things turn to shit.

The country is awash with guns. The previous dictator handed out free AK-74s to his “supporters” during his reign. They have not been handed back. Expect different groups to start fighting amongst themselves for whatever spoils they can take from the collapse of the old regime.

For a second I thought you were talking about the US.

ha

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

I give it a week before the whole country falls apart and things turn to shit.

The country is awash with guns. The previous dictator handed out free AK-74s to his “supporters” during his reign. They have not been handed back. Expect different groups to start fighting amongst themselves for whatever spoils they can take from the collapse of the old regime.

For a second I thought you were talking about the US.

No, you can’t get assault rifles for free in the US.

Not yet.

That was the bit where I realised it was Venezuela.

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

I suppose shedding tears or not shedding tears is the only option people can expect from the UK in this matter.

To be fair, I can’t see most countries being able to do much. Russia and China could have a crack, but it’d end up as WWIII. Other countries could express displeasure, but that’s about the most extreme action that could be done.

The UN is having a meeting about it as well.

US has veto, so the UN is a toothless, paper tiger.

President Trump has just addressed the UN, he said.
“A lot of good planning and lot of great, great troops and great people,”
“It was a brilliant operation, actually.”

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

To be fair, I can’t see most countries being able to do much. Russia and China could have a crack, but it’d end up as WWIII. Other countries could express displeasure, but that’s about the most extreme action that could be done.

The UN is having a meeting about it as well.

US has veto, so the UN is a toothless, paper tiger.

That’s why, despite what Trump might threaten, the US can’t leave the UN.

Leave the UN, and lose the permanent power of veto on the Security Council.

It would leave the UK, France, China and Russia as the ‘permanent veto’ countries.

China and Russia could provoke all kinds of shenanigans on the Security Council. While France could generally be counted on to use its veto to counter such things…well, they are the French.

The same goes for the UK, but the Americans would be constantly applying enormous pressure to the UK to act as proxy for the US in Security Council votes. Even so, it’s not entirely inconceivable that the UK just might, one day, kick free and vote against America’s wishes.

A fifth country could be given a permanent seat and ‘permanent veto’ on the Council to replace the US, but it’s most unlikely, as it would need a complex amendment, approval by the General Assembly, and approval by all of the existing permanent members. Little chance of that.

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

The UN is having a meeting about it as well.

US has veto, so the UN is a toothless, paper tiger.

That’s why, despite what Trump might threaten, the US can’t leave the UN.

Leave the UN, and lose the permanent power of veto on the Security Council.

It would leave the UK, France, China and Russia as the ‘permanent veto’ countries.

China and Russia could provoke all kinds of shenanigans on the Security Council. While France could generally be counted on to use its veto to counter such things…well, they are the French.

The same goes for the UK, but the Americans would be constantly applying enormous pressure to the UK to act as proxy for the US in Security Council votes. Even so, it’s not entirely inconceivable that the UK just might, one day, kick free and vote against America’s wishes.

A fifth country could be given a permanent seat and ‘permanent veto’ on the Council to replace the US, but it’s most unlikely, as it would need a complex amendment, approval by the General Assembly, and approval by all of the existing permanent members. Little chance of that.

Without the US as a member, the UN would become even less relevant, and would probably fall apart and be disbanded.

The permanent veto powers is what makes the UN so useless in the first place. None of the permanent members can be expected to act with virtue or principle, they use it as a vehicle to protect their own interests.

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

US has veto, so the UN is a toothless, paper tiger.

That’s why, despite what Trump might threaten, the US can’t leave the UN.

Leave the UN, and lose the permanent power of veto on the Security Council.

It would leave the UK, France, China and Russia as the ‘permanent veto’ countries.

China and Russia could provoke all kinds of shenanigans on the Security Council. While France could generally be counted on to use its veto to counter such things…well, they are the French.

The same goes for the UK, but the Americans would be constantly applying enormous pressure to the UK to act as proxy for the US in Security Council votes. Even so, it’s not entirely inconceivable that the UK just might, one day, kick free and vote against America’s wishes.

A fifth country could be given a permanent seat and ‘permanent veto’ on the Council to replace the US, but it’s most unlikely, as it would need a complex amendment, approval by the General Assembly, and approval by all of the existing permanent members. Little chance of that.

Without the US as a member, the UN would become even less relevant, and would probably fall apart and be disbanded.

The permanent veto powers is what makes the UN so useless in the first place. None of the permanent members can be expected to act with virtue or principle, they use it as a vehicle to protect their own interests.

They do. To some extent, that’s why they were given that power.

It ensures that they have reason to stay in the UN, that they have sufficient ‘buy-in’ to encourage them to remain part of the organisation.

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From Jim Wright aka Stonekettle Station:
Trump’s secure command center is just some black sheets draped over curtain poles around a card table with wooden dining room chairs in an unused Mar-a-Lago storeroom while the Minister of War reads some tweets from military geniuses like Field Marshal Catturd and Space Cadet Musk on the progress of the glorious operation.

Whenever I see Marco Rubio standing near Trump listening to the obviously demented scumbag talking absolute bullshit, I wonder if he is thinking about what he’d be doing in that situation if he’d become president?

kii said:

From Jim Wright aka Stonekettle Station:
Trump’s secure command center is just some black sheets draped over curtain poles around a card table with wooden dining room chairs in an unused Mar-a-Lago storeroom while the Minister of War reads some tweets from military geniuses like Field Marshal Catturd and Space Cadet Musk on the progress of the glorious operation.

sure but they got the dictator and justice will be served and oil will flow and the lives of Venezuelans and everyone else in the world will be better for it so what’s the problem

fsm said:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Uh-uh-uh.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

From Jim Wright aka Stonekettle Station:
Trump’s secure command center is just some black sheets draped over curtain poles around a card table with wooden dining room chairs in an unused Mar-a-Lago storeroom while the Minister of War reads some tweets from military geniuses like Field Marshal Catturd and Space Cadet Musk on the progress of the glorious operation.

sure but they got the dictator and justice will be served and oil will flow and the lives of Venezuelans and everyone else in the world will be better for it so what’s the problem

A lot of AK-47’s

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

From Jim Wright aka Stonekettle Station:
Trump’s secure command center is just some black sheets draped over curtain poles around a card table with wooden dining room chairs in an unused Mar-a-Lago storeroom while the Minister of War reads some tweets from military geniuses like Field Marshal Catturd and Space Cadet Musk on the progress of the glorious operation.

sure but they got the dictator and justice will be served and oil will flow and the lives of Venezuelans and everyone else in the world will be better for it so what’s the problem

A lot of AK-47’s

yeah but why should we care the local fuel station has dropped their prices today so life is good

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

sure but they got the dictator and justice will be served and oil will flow and the lives of Venezuelans and everyone else in the world will be better for it so what’s the problem

A lot of AK-47’s

yeah but why should we care the local fuel station has dropped their prices today so life is good

Good my tank needs topping up.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

A lot of AK-47’s

yeah but why should we care the local fuel station has dropped their prices today so life is good

Good my tank needs topping up.

you drive a tank?

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

The UN is having a meeting about it as well.

US has veto, so the UN is a toothless, paper tiger.

That’s why, despite what Trump might threaten, the US can’t leave the UN.

Leave the UN, and lose the permanent power of veto on the Security Council.

It would leave the UK, France, China and Russia as the ‘permanent veto’ countries.

China and Russia could provoke all kinds of shenanigans on the Security Council. While France could generally be counted on to use its veto to counter such things…well, they are the French.

The same goes for the UK, but the Americans would be constantly applying enormous pressure to the UK to act as proxy for the US in Security Council votes. Even so, it’s not entirely inconceivable that the UK just might, one day, kick free and vote against America’s wishes.

A fifth country could be given a permanent seat and ‘permanent veto’ on the Council to replace the US, but it’s most unlikely, as it would need a complex amendment, approval by the General Assembly, and approval by all of the existing permanent members. Little chance of that.

New Zealand

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

I give it a week before the whole country falls apart and things turn to shit.

The country is awash with guns. The previous dictator handed out free AK-74s to his “supporters” during his reign. They have not been handed back. Expect different groups to start fighting amongst themselves for whatever spoils they can take from the collapse of the old regime.

For a second I thought you were talking about the US.

No, you can’t get assault rifles for free in the US.

Not yet.

what if you say you support Charlie Kirk and it is as god wills

Anyway Maduro is A-OK with how things are going

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

US has veto, so the UN is a toothless, paper tiger.

That’s why, despite what Trump might threaten, the US can’t leave the UN.

Leave the UN, and lose the permanent power of veto on the Security Council.

It would leave the UK, France, China and Russia as the ‘permanent veto’ countries.

China and Russia could provoke all kinds of shenanigans on the Security Council. While France could generally be counted on to use its veto to counter such things…well, they are the French.

The same goes for the UK, but the Americans would be constantly applying enormous pressure to the UK to act as proxy for the US in Security Council votes. Even so, it’s not entirely inconceivable that the UK just might, one day, kick free and vote against America’s wishes.

A fifth country could be given a permanent seat and ‘permanent veto’ on the Council to replace the US, but it’s most unlikely, as it would need a complex amendment, approval by the General Assembly, and approval by all of the existing permanent members. Little chance of that.

New Zealand

Isn’t there already a “revolving seat” on the UN Security Council?

Divine Angel said:

Anyway Maduro is A-OK with how things are going

“It’s fine, they let me wear my slippers.”

Divine Angel said:

Anyway Maduro is A-OK with how things are going

Those shoes/slippers look nice and comfy. With my dodgy feet, wish I could get a pair like that.

Divine Angel said:

Anyway Maduro is A-OK with how things are going

All thumbs up…

Spiny Norman said:

:)

Goond one!

:)

JudgeMental said:

Ooh-aah!

Excellent.

Divine Angel said:

Anyway Maduro is A-OK with how things are going

Is that the Venezuelan luge team?

Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

Anyway Maduro is A-OK with how things are going

Is that the Venezuelan luge team?

If it is there’s a lot of dentists in it.

Someone’s put together the pic I couldn’t be arsed doing myself.

Three things in particular stick out in the bottom pic:
1. No military
2. Twitter on the screen behind them
3. The highly secure black curtains

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

Anyway Maduro is A-OK with how things are going

“It’s fine, they let me wear my slippers.”

Have they photoshopped out the newspaper. Shouldn’t the hostage be holding a newspaper in a proof of life photo?

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

Anyway Maduro is A-OK with how things are going

“It’s fine, they let me wear my slippers.”

Have they photoshopped out the newspaper. Shouldn’t the hostage be holding a newspaper in a proof of life photo?

Ha!

Trump’s mob playing by the rules? That’d be unexpected.

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

Anyway Maduro is A-OK with how things are going

“It’s fine, they let me wear my slippers.”

Have they photoshopped out the newspaper. Shouldn’t the hostage be holding a newspaper in a proof of life photo?

Lololol 😆

Ah well I’m sure DJT is hoping this will keep the EpFiles out of the headlines for a few days.

dv said:

Ah well I’m sure DJT is hoping this will keep the EpFiles out of the headlines for a few days.

What was that?

Michael V said:

dv said:

kii said:

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

Divine Angel said:

Someone’s put together the pic I couldn’t be arsed doing myself.

Three things in particular stick out in the bottom pic:
1. No military
2. Twitter on the screen behind them
3. The highly secure black curtains

Anyway Maduro is A-OK with how things are going

“It’s fine, they let me wear my slippers.”

Have they photoshopped out the newspaper. Shouldn’t the hostage be holding a newspaper in a proof of life photo?

Ha!

Trump’s mob playing by the rules? That’d be unexpected.

Lololol 😆

Ah well I’m sure DJT is hoping this will keep the EpFiles out of the headlines for a few days.

What was that?

so looks like this was all planned and Maduro is in on it as well and got a nice deal out of it

Michael V said:

dv said:

Ah well I’m sure DJT is hoping this will keep the EpFiles out of the headlines for a few days.

What was that?

What was what?

Mexico is next…Cuba….Colombia
Link

Bernie Sanders’ statement about Venezuela

kii said:

Bernie Sanders’ statement about Venezuela

Well, they need to impeach him, and at least half of his cabinet.

dv said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Ah well I’m sure DJT is hoping this will keep the EpFiles out of the headlines for a few days.

What was that?

What was what?

I don’t know.

Nobody seems to remember what that was.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTD6g-_ioit/?igsh=dmZybWNjMGQ2Mnhy

kii said:

Bernie Sanders’ statement about Venezuela

Thanks for posting.

party_pants said:

kii said:

Bernie Sanders’ statement about Venezuela

Well, they need to impeach him, and at least half of his cabinet.

jftr but anyway

NEWS: Statement of Sen. Bernie Sanders on Venezuela
January 3, 2026
WASHINGTON, Jan. 3 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Saturday condemned President Donald Trump’s unilateral military action against Venezuela as illegal and unconstitutional, warning that it violates international law, endangers global security and usurps Congress’ exclusive authority to declare war. Sanders called on Congress to immediately pass a War Powers resolution to end the operation.

Donald Trump has, once again, shown his contempt for the Constitution and the rule of law. The President of the United States does NOT have the right to unilaterally take this country to war, even against a corrupt and brutal dictator like Maduro. The United States does NOT have the right, as Trump stated this morning, to “run” Venezuela. Congress must immediately pass a War Powers resolution to end this illegal military operation and reassert its constitutional responsibilities.

Trump’s attack on Venezuela will make the United States and the world less safe. This brazen violation of international law gives a green light to any nation on earth that may wish to attack another country to seize their resources or change their governments. This is the horrific logic of force that Putin used to justify his brutal attack on Ukraine.

Trump and his administration have often said they want to revive the Monroe Doctrine, claiming the United States has the right to dominate the affairs of the hemisphere. They have spoken openly about controlling Venezuela’s oil reserves, the largest in the world. This is rank imperialism. It recalls the darkest chapters of U.S. interventions in Latin America, which have left a terrible legacy. It will and should be condemned by the democratic world.

Trump campaigned for president on an “America First” platform. He claimed to be the “peace candidate.” At a time when 60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, when our healthcare system is collapsing, when people cannot afford housing and when AI threatens millions of jobs, it is time for the president to focus on the crises facing this country and end this military adventurism abroad. Trump is failing in his job to “run” the United States. He should not be trying to “run” Venezuela.

Ian said:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTD6g-_ioit/?igsh=dmZybWNjMGQ2Mnhy

Giggle.

Michael V said:

kii said:

Bernie Sanders’ statement about Venezuela

Thanks for posting.

sure but did he act instead of just posting

dv said:

So… fascist western-identified country invades and annexes neighbours, what next, far eastern powerhouse takes control of Republic of China and pushes across SEA and sea¿

alleged

Alejandro Velasco
@AleVelascoNYU
At this point, taking the actual operation, Trump’s press conference, and Delcy Rodriguez’s press conference into consideration, it seems fairly certain (though of course, unconfirmed) that Maduro was given up by the remaining government apparatus in a back channel deal. 1/x
9:30 AM · Jan 4, 2026
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Alejandro Velasco
@AleVelascoNYU
·
9h
They likely used the only card they had to play: only we can ensure stability; the alternative – a full regime change with oppo installed in power – would result in chaos and bloodshed that the US would then have to manage with troops on the ground. 2/x
Alejandro Velasco
@AleVelascoNYU
·
9h
In exchange, they gave Trump two things: oil (for cash) and Maduro (for show). Plus ancillary players get some of what they wanted: Hegseth gets his macho moment and Rubio gets to strangle Cuba. 3/x
Alejandro Velasco
@AleVelascoNYU
·
9h
But, chest beating aside, the remaining Ven gov’t now has to do Trump’s bidding with a massive Damocles sword over its head. Not that they mind: ideology has long been dead for them. Of course, in geopolitics everything can change on a dime. 4/x
Alejandro Velasco
@AleVelascoNYU
·
9h
But that’s what it looks like to me as this long day turns to night, with MCM as the biggest loser among the notable players. And as always, those who will bear the biggest brunt are Venezuelans, in Ven and out. For them, the tragedy continues. FIN

Putin: Kidnap the leader……….damn why didn’t I think of that…………….kidnap the leader…….oh well it’s too late now………bugger…

Peak Warming Man said:

Putin: Kidnap the leader……….damn why didn’t I think of that…………….kidnap the leader…….oh well it’s too late now………bugger…

blow up their pagers

Donny and team must have known about this, the kidnapping, for some time.
No leaks, tight ship.

Peak Warming Man said:

Donny and team must have known about this, the kidnapping, for some time.
No leaks, tight ship.

Or….it was just one his thought bubbles and someone thought he meant it.

Divine Angel said:

how good is Trump and all the fascists

CHINA Apologist Talks Trash

https://michaelwest.com.au/what-trump-venezuela-means-for-russia-china/

Modern China is unique for having a relatively peaceful rise as a superpower. The odd border skirmish with India, some elbowing in the South China Sea, nothing like the rivers of blood spilt by every other major power.

LOL ‘sif, they’ve been

uh

been

yeah wait

What can I say here? If this can be done to dictators, like that, then the United States of America know what they should do next.

damn

Yeah but remember all the ones he stopped? Enough to get the FIFA Peace Prize!

SCIENCE said:

What can I say here? If this can be done to dictators, like that, then the United States of America know what they should do next.

damn

Clever.

:)

Someone here said yesterday something about leaking the info?

Divine Angel said:

Someone here said yesterday something about leaking the info?

Two opposite interpretations. Which is correct? Which is moral?

Gosh!

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Someone here said yesterday something about leaking the info?

Two opposite interpretations. Which is correct? Which is moral?

Gosh!

Old El Paso

This Venezuela thing really isn’t funny, but this raised a smile anyway:

“Trump is reasonably suspected of being a war criminal. So is Putin. And Netanyahu. Lukashenko cheated in the elections in Belarus. I never liked Fico much, and Starmer is criminally boring.”

From Quora.

The Rev Dodgson said:

This Venezuela thing really isn’t funny, but this raised a smile anyway:

“Trump is reasonably suspected of being a war criminal. So is Putin. And Netanyahu. Lukashenko cheated in the elections in Belarus. I never liked Fico much, and Starmer is criminally boring.”

From Quora.

:)

“What we’re not going to allow is for the oil industry in Venezuela to be controlled by adversaries of the United States. You have to understand, why does China need their oil? Why does Russia need their oil? Why does Iran need their oil? They’re not even in this continent,” Rubio said. “This is the Western Hemisphere. This is where we live, and we’re not going to allow the Western Hemisphere to be a base of operation for adversaries, competitors and rivals of the United States.”

—-https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/secretary-state-marco-rubio-us-capture-maduro-war-venezuela-elections-rcna252111

BREAKING

Trump has arrested Mamdani, says he will run New York.

more to come…….

Peak Warming Man said:

BREAKING

Trump has arrested Mamdani, says he will run New York.

more to come…….

Only kidding, it’s not true, I made it up.

Peak Warming Man said:

BREAKING

Trump has arrested Mamdani, says he will run New York.

more to come…….

Ref?

;)

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

This Venezuela thing really isn’t funny, but this raised a smile anyway:

“Trump is reasonably suspected of being a war criminal. So is Putin. And Netanyahu. Lukashenko cheated in the elections in Belarus. I never liked Fico much, and Starmer is criminally boring.”

From Quora.

:)

so what we need is a true expert in police statism to perform true enforcement functions across the world and arrest the true criminals

has…

… has this

“this incredible thing last night… We have to do it again. We can do it again, too. Nobody can stop us”

kind of thing happened before

¿

SCIENCE said:

has…

… has this

“this incredible thing last night… We have to do it again. We can do it again, too. Nobody can stop us”

kind of thing happened before

¿

Something… something… something… Iran… failed… Operation Eagle Claw…

Trump says US military operation in Colombia ‘sounds good to me’

—

Man’s a menace.

Ian said:

Trump says US military operation in Colombia ‘sounds good to me’

—

Man’s a menace.

unification is peace

SCIENCE said:

Ian said:

Trump says US military operation in Colombia ‘sounds good to me’

—

Man’s a menace.

unification is peace

Australia won’t say boo, suck up to the USA regardless of their actions.

Team Sports Just For Plausible Deniability

if yous’r‘l looking for justifications, here’s an interesting historical contrast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

SCIENCE said:

if yous’r‘l looking for justifications, here’s an interesting historical contrast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

if yous’r‘l looking for justifications, here’s an interesting historical contrast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

Distraction.

As Jeff Tiedrich put it in his online column:

“so, why did this thing have to happen in the dead of night during New Year’s weekend?

it’s all about the timing.

Congress is back in session this week, and they have a lot of stuff on their plate — stuff Donny doesn’t want them dealing with. like the Epstein Files, for which the DOJ just missed another deadline. then there are the Obamacare subsidies, which expired four days ago.

fuck’s sake, there’s another possible government shutdown looming on January 30 — that needs to be dealt with, too.

but now, all anyone is going to be talking about is Venezuela.

that’s pretty convenient, isn’t it?”

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

if yous’r‘l looking for justifications, here’s an interesting historical contrast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

I don’t think even Fox media is calling him a wily genius.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

if yous’r‘l looking for justifications, here’s an interesting historical contrast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

Michael Bentine said I was a genius.

Tree on shed. Lucky the bushy bits at the top may have cushioned it a bit.

Woodie said:

Tree on shed. Lucky the bushy bits at the top may have cushioned it a bit.

What’s in the shed?

Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

Tree on shed. Lucky the bushy bits at the top may have cushioned it a bit.

What’s in the shed?

ahem wrong Fred

And sorry Woodie- you aren’t having much luck

Woodie said:

Tree on shed. Lucky the bushy bits at the top may have cushioned it a bit.

Bloody hell, I hope your chainsaw is sharp and not in the dam.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

if yous’r‘l looking for justifications, here’s an interesting historical contrast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

Michael Bentine said I was a genius.

Some context.
Michael Bentine, a founding member of The Goons, was known for “always calling everyone a genius,” a charming habit that his fellow performers, Harry Secombe and Peter Sellers, often joked about.
This habit even became part of Goon Show lore:
Bentine once sent an eccentric individual named Ruxton Hayward to meet Peter Sellers, giving him a specific phrase to use as an introduction: “Michael Bentine says I’m a genius”.
Unbeknownst to Hayward, this was a secret signal for Sellers to consider incorporating the man into his act.
Ruxton Hayward, a six-foot-two, red-bearded scoutmaster, is widely believed to have inspired Peter Sellers’ iconic character, the perpetually naive and put-upon Boy Scout Bluebottle.

Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

Tree on shed. Lucky the bushy bits at the top may have cushioned it a bit.

What’s in the shed?

Train set in one half. Tractor and car in the other half.

The bit that’s caved/smashed in is above the train set.

Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

Tree on shed. Lucky the bushy bits at the top may have cushioned it a bit.

What’s in the shed?

Train set in one half. Tractor and car in the other half.

The bit that’s caved/smashed in is above the train set.

Damn, I suspected as much :/

Not since Starlin liberated Czechoslovakia and Hitler liberated Poland have we seen such a bold move.

Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

What’s in the shed?

Train set in one half. Tractor and car in the other half.

The bit that’s caved/smashed in is above the train set.

Damn, I suspected as much :/

we just drove past a pedestrian walking under a tree when it started cracking

Peak Warming Man said:

Not since Starlin liberated Czechoslovakia and Hitler liberated Poland have we seen such a bold move.

Of course, now that Putin or Xi get an urge to execute some kind of ‘police activity’ on one of their neighbours, the US isn’t likely to comment terribly negatively about it.

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

if yous’r‘l looking for justifications, here’s an interesting historical contrast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

Distraction.

As Jeff Tiedrich put it in his online column:

“so, why did this thing have to happen in the dead of night during New Year’s weekend?

it’s all about the timing.

Congress is back in session this week, and they have a lot of stuff on their plate — stuff Donny doesn’t want them dealing with. like the Epstein Files, for which the DOJ just missed another deadline. then there are the Obamacare subsidies, which expired four days ago.

fuck’s sake, there’s another possible government shutdown looming on January 30 — that needs to be dealt with, too.

but now, all anyone is going to be talking about is Venezuela.

that’s pretty convenient, isn’t it?”

Nods.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Not since Starlin liberated Czechoslovakia and Hitler liberated Poland have we seen such a bold move.

Of course, now that Putin or Xi get an urge to execute some kind of ‘police activity’ on one of their neighbours, the US isn’t likely to comment terribly negatively about it.

Oh I don’t know, he just pardoned a real drug trafficker and arrested a perhaps a drug trafficker.

Woodie said:

Tree on shed. Lucky the bushy bits at the top may have cushioned it a bit.

Cheeses!

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Not since Starlin liberated Czechoslovakia and Hitler liberated Poland have we seen such a bold move.

Of course, now that Putin or Xi get an urge to execute some kind of ‘police activity’ on one of their neighbours, the US isn’t likely to comment terribly negatively about it.

Oh I don’t know, he just pardoned a real drug trafficker and arrested a perhaps a drug trafficker.

note of course that Venezuela was actually a country

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Of course, now that Putin or Xi get an urge to execute some kind of ‘police activity’ on one of their neighbours, the US isn’t likely to comment terribly negatively about it.

Oh I don’t know, he just pardoned a real drug trafficker and arrested a perhaps a drug trafficker.

note of course that Venezuela was actually a country

Trumpezuela now. Bordered by Trump Ocean.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Not since Starlin liberated Czechoslovakia and Hitler liberated Poland have we seen such a bold move.

Of course, now that Putin or Xi get an urge to execute some kind of ‘police activity’ on one of their neighbours, the US isn’t likely to comment terribly negatively about it.

Oh I dunno. I can see a US government, of any stripe, being au fait with a little hypocrisy.

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Of course, now that Putin or Xi get an urge to execute some kind of ‘police activity’ on one of their neighbours, the US isn’t likely to comment terribly negatively about it.

Oh I don’t know, he just pardoned a real drug trafficker and arrested a perhaps a drug trafficker.

note of course that Venezuela was actually a country

Not some sort of renegade province that deserves to be brought into line?

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

Train set in one half. Tractor and car in the other half.

The bit that’s caved/smashed in is above the train set.

Damn, I suspected as much :/

we just drove past a pedestrian walking under a tree when it started cracking

Bloody!

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Oh I don’t know, he just pardoned a real drug trafficker and arrested a perhaps a drug trafficker.

note of course that Venezuela was actually a country

Trumpezuela now. Bordered by Trump Ocean.

KKKrasnograd

classic mainstream medium sensationalist engagement farming

we suspect 0 is somewhat of an exaggeration but the sentiment is there

also yes we’re aware these themes get recycled frequently

yeah mate don’t you worry

Who could Trump target next?
By Patrick Martin

The US president has already taken aim at other countries, including Colombia, Mexico and Cuba. He’s indicated America could take military action in Colombia. But Brian Fonseca, director of the Jack D. Gordon Institute for Public Policy at the University of Florida, said Trump’s comments were “grandstanding”. The US and Colombia have a long-standing relationship on several issues, including security, Mr Fonseca said. He believed the US president was more likely to be interested in intervening in Cuba and Nicaragua.

when Vlad threatened to take Uke it totally didn’t happen

so DPRK should evict all DPRNA bases from eastasia

“This is the Western Hemisphere,” he said. “This is where we live — and we’re not going to allow the Western Hemisphere to be a base of operation for adversaries, competitors, and rivals of the United States.”

Hey we remember that time when

China has emerged as the country’s number one oil importer and in return has poured tens of billions of dollars into oil-for-loans deals — mainly for energy and infrastructure, filling critical voids and increasing reliance on Beijing.

countries that help build other countries and follow the rules

Instead, it’s likely China will use this attack to present itself as the only global powerhouse that adheres to international law and upholding a rules-based order. Chinese state media has been busy framing this attack as a “resource-grabbing power play” which will result in the US ceding moral high ground. “By any definition, the US military operation amounts to an invasion,” the China Daily wrote on Monday. “What the world is witnessing is not a rules-based order, but colonial pillaging.”

were painted as the bad guys and the arseholes who wouldn’t uphold the rules based international order that they were already allegedly winning peacefully and economically and overcapacitatingly by following the rules.

Miller – “It has been the formal position of the U.S. government since the beginning of this administration, frankly, going back into the previous Trump administration, that Greenland should be part of the United States. The president has been very clear about that. That is the formal position of the U.S. government.”

Tapper – “Right. But can you say that military action against Greenland is off the table?”

Miller – “It wouldn’t be military action against Greenland. Greenland has a population of 30,000 people, Jake. The real question is by what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? What is the basis of their territorial claim? What is their basis of having Greenland as a colony of Denmark?”

Jake Tapper interviews Stephen Miller, US Homeland Security Advisor

https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephen-miller-dismisses-idea-denmark-would-fight-greenland-claims-should-part-us

dv said:

Miller – “It has been the formal position of the U.S. government since the beginning of this administration, frankly, going back into the previous Trump administration, that Greenland should be part of the United States. The president has been very clear about that. That is the formal position of the U.S. government.”

Tapper – “Right. But can you say that military action against Greenland is off the table?”

Miller – “It wouldn’t be military action against Greenland. Greenland has a population of 30,000 people, Jake. The real question is by what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? What is the basis of their territorial claim? What is their basis of having Greenland as a colony of Denmark?”

Jake Tapper interviews Stephen Miller, US Homeland Security Advisor

https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephen-miller-dismisses-idea-denmark-would-fight-greenland-claims-should-part-us

This Miller person. Is his knowledge the basis of the back of a cornflakes packet?

dv said:

Miller – “It has been the formal position of the U.S. government since the beginning of this administration, frankly, going back into the previous Trump administration, that Greenland should be part of the United States. The president has been very clear about that. That is the formal position of the U.S. government.”

Tapper – “Right. But can you say that military action against Greenland is off the table?”

Miller – “It wouldn’t be military action against Greenland. Greenland has a population of 30,000 people, Jake. The real question is by what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? What is the basis of their territorial claim? What is their basis of having Greenland as a colony of Denmark?”

Jake Tapper interviews Stephen Miller, US Homeland Security Advisor

https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephen-miller-dismisses-idea-denmark-would-fight-greenland-claims-should-part-us

FMD

dv said:

Miller – “It has been the formal position of the U.S. government since the beginning of this administration, frankly, going back into the previous Trump administration, that Greenland should be part of the United States. The president has been very clear about that. That is the formal position of the U.S. government.”

Tapper – “Right. But can you say that military action against Greenland is off the table?”

Miller – “It wouldn’t be military action against Greenland. Greenland has a population of 30,000 people, Jake. The real question is by what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? What is the basis of their territorial claim? What is their basis of having Greenland as a colony of Denmark?”

Jake Tapper interviews Stephen Miller, US Homeland Security Advisor

https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephen-miller-dismisses-idea-denmark-would-fight-greenland-claims-should-part-us

Those Wikipedians are onto it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_United_States_acquisition_of_Greenland

dv said:

Miller – “It has been the formal position of the U.S. government since the beginning of this administration, frankly, going back into the previous Trump administration, that Greenland should be part of the United States. The president has been very clear about that. That is the formal position of the U.S. government.”

Tapper – “Right. But can you say that military action against Greenland is off the table?”

Miller – “It wouldn’t be military action against Greenland. Greenland has a population of 30,000 people, Jake. The real question is by what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? What is the basis of their territorial claim? What is their basis of having Greenland as a colony of Denmark?”

Jake Tapper interviews Stephen Miller, US Homeland Security Advisor

https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephen-miller-dismisses-idea-denmark-would-fight-greenland-claims-should-part-us

Greenland can become a sunlit upland under US administration.
Men, enterprising men. can, through hard work, build thriving metropolis connected by roads and highways and rail lines.
Men who can tame this wild unproductive land.
Otherwise it will just rot and fester under the yolk of these woke Denmarkians.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Miller – “It has been the formal position of the U.S. government since the beginning of this administration, frankly, going back into the previous Trump administration, that Greenland should be part of the United States. The president has been very clear about that. That is the formal position of the U.S. government.”

Tapper – “Right. But can you say that military action against Greenland is off the table?”

Miller – “It wouldn’t be military action against Greenland. Greenland has a population of 30,000 people, Jake. The real question is by what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? What is the basis of their territorial claim? What is their basis of having Greenland as a colony of Denmark?”

Jake Tapper interviews Stephen Miller, US Homeland Security Advisor

https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephen-miller-dismisses-idea-denmark-would-fight-greenland-claims-should-part-us

Greenland can become a sunlit upland under US administration.
Men, enterprising men. can, through hard work, build thriving metropolis connected by roads and highways and rail lines.
Men who can tame this wild unproductive land.
Otherwise it will just rot and fester under the yolk of these woke Denmarkians.

Oil.

The US seems to want more oil, but they’re not silly enough to invade the Middle East. Not even poor little Kuwait.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Miller – “It has been the formal position of the U.S. government since the beginning of this administration, frankly, going back into the previous Trump administration, that Greenland should be part of the United States. The president has been very clear about that. That is the formal position of the U.S. government.”

Tapper – “Right. But can you say that military action against Greenland is off the table?”

Miller – “It wouldn’t be military action against Greenland. Greenland has a population of 30,000 people, Jake. The real question is by what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? What is the basis of their territorial claim? What is their basis of having Greenland as a colony of Denmark?”

Jake Tapper interviews Stephen Miller, US Homeland Security Advisor

https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephen-miller-dismisses-idea-denmark-would-fight-greenland-claims-should-part-us

Greenland can become a sunlit upland under US administration.
Men, enterprising men. can, through hard work, build thriving metropolis connected by roads and highways and rail lines.
Men who can tame this wild unproductive land.
Otherwise it will just rot and fester under the yolk of these woke Denmarkians.

If the climate keeps warming, Greenland will indeed be the sunlit upland.

Divine Angel said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Miller – “It has been the formal position of the U.S. government since the beginning of this administration, frankly, going back into the previous Trump administration, that Greenland should be part of the United States. The president has been very clear about that. That is the formal position of the U.S. government.”

Tapper – “Right. But can you say that military action against Greenland is off the table?”

Miller – “It wouldn’t be military action against Greenland. Greenland has a population of 30,000 people, Jake. The real question is by what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? What is the basis of their territorial claim? What is their basis of having Greenland as a colony of Denmark?”

Jake Tapper interviews Stephen Miller, US Homeland Security Advisor

https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephen-miller-dismisses-idea-denmark-would-fight-greenland-claims-should-part-us

Greenland can become a sunlit upland under US administration.
Men, enterprising men. can, through hard work, build thriving metropolis connected by roads and highways and rail lines.
Men who can tame this wild unproductive land.
Otherwise it will just rot and fester under the yolk of these woke Denmarkians.

Oil.

The US seems to want more oil, but they’re not silly enough to invade the Middle East. Not even poor little Kuwait.

thankfully CHINA got its industry all over lithium iron phosphate powered 爱-driven minimunitions so it’s all good

I do wonder if the USA needs a bloody nose from a “foe” to let them know perhaps a significant percentage of the world hates them.

Cymek said:

I do wonder if the USA needs a bloody nose from a “foe” to let them know perhaps a significant percentage of the world hates them.

No. We don’t need WWIII.

Michael V said:

Cymek said:

I do wonder if the USA needs a bloody nose from a “foe” to let them know perhaps a significant percentage of the world hates them.

No. We don’t need WWIII.

so we need people to step up and enforce the rules based international order

plausible deniability, team sports style

good luck preventing war

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Cymek said:

I do wonder if the USA needs a bloody nose from a “foe” to let them know perhaps a significant percentage of the world hates them.

No. We don’t need WWIII.

so we need people to step up and enforce the rules based international order

The Orange Shitgibbon couldn’t give a stuff about “International Law”. The US never has.

If “whoever” is serious about this “International Law” bizzo, then have him arrested the next time he steps foot on foreign soil.

Woodie said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

No. We don’t need WWIII.

so we need people to step up and enforce the rules based international order

The Orange Shitgibbon couldn’t give a stuff about “International Law”. The US never has.

If “whoever” is serious about this “International Law” bizzo, then have him arrested the next time he steps foot on foreign soil.

As a convicted felon, he shouldn’t be allowed to step foot on (some) foreign soil.

Does seem as though members of the administration (other than Miller) are openly defying the President. He is very plainly saying what the plan is and they are all putting out alternative plans).

dv said:

Does seem as though members of the administration (other than Miller) are openly defying the President. He is very plainly saying what the plan is and they are all putting out alternative plans).

so invade 1 and ambiguously threaten the other 100 then

Situation is little changed after a small number of polls over the past couple of weeks but I present this snapshot as none of these polls was conducted after the apprehension of the Maduros.

Seen a bit of this kind of thing on social media.

Russia and Iran are among the world’s major oil exporting nations. They don’t need oil from Venezuela.

dv said:

Seen a bit of this kind of thing on social media.

Russia and Iran are among the world’s major oil exporting nations. They don’t need oil from Venezuela.

Would this not be noticed

Presidente Trumpito’s Inaugural Address

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v17aUGBAzF8

Link

Cymek said:

dv said:

Seen a bit of this kind of thing on social media.

Russia and Iran are among the world’s major oil exporting nations. They don’t need oil from Venezuela.

Would this not be noticed

China buys most of Venzuela’s oil because:

• it’s heavy crude oil, rich in bitumen, which is useful for China and of which type of oil China does not have a great deal

• it’s part of a repayment scheme (oil for loans) to repay significant loans to Venezuela by China

• it help keep Venezuela’s oil industry stable, enabling it to be used as an economic tool/weapon against American oil interests

Shows like Sesame Street will continue to be made, but will be exclusive to streaming and not FTA. PBS was mostly government funded, and we all know what the current administration thinks of wholesome, educational shows. Funding was cut, PBS couldn’t survive.

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

dv said:

Seen a bit of this kind of thing on social media.

Russia and Iran are among the world’s major oil exporting nations. They don’t need oil from Venezuela.

Would this not be noticed

China buys most of Venzuela’s oil because:

• it’s heavy crude oil, rich in bitumen, which is useful for China and of which type of oil China does not have a great deal

• it’s part of a repayment scheme (oil for loans) to repay significant loans to Venezuela by China

• it help keep Venezuela’s oil industry stable, enabling it to be used as an economic tool/weapon against American oil interests

So tit for tat in how the USA does it to mess with other nations.
All pathetic and likely a reflection of how inadequate they feel as men

fuck CHINA see what yous made US do

Divine Angel said:

Shows like Sesame Street will continue to be made, but will be exclusive to streaming and not FTA. PBS was mostly government funded, and we all know what the current administration thinks of wholesome, educational shows. Funding was cut, PBS couldn’t survive.

but this is good news, everyone knows that state owned media are just propaganda mouthpieces, private enterprise and oligarch interests are far better placed to provide meaningful information to the people

SCIENCE said:

LOLOLOLOLOL

dv said:

FMD

(Rubs temples) that’s not how that works.

Why is the news so damned stupid these days…

dv said:

(Rubs temples) that’s not how that works.

Why is the news so damned stupid these days…

¿ blame the news for the machinations of psychopaths=fascists=criminals=corruptioneers ?

Jon Stewart

Ian said:

Jon Stewart

Welcome to The Daily Show!
We are back, baby!
My name is Jon Stewart.
Welcome back. Merry Christmas.
Happy New Year. Happy Hanukkah.
Good yontiff.
Whatever it is, we got a show for you tonight.
Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona will be joining us.

Man!
Just today, just today, the Senator had his rank stripped
and his retirement pay docked by the Secretary
of Defense/War, Pete Hegseth/Homelander.

And the Senator will be joining us,
and I will ask him if he knows we do not pay our guests.

But let’s get right to the big story.
Ladies and gentlemen, this weekend, President Trump and
an elite team of Delta Force special operators
removed a dangerous foreign dictator from power.
Not that one.

They’re— they’re— they’re actually friends.
And quite frankly, I think business partners.
No, no.
Not that.
He’s— they’re also quite close.
That’s not— OK.

I believe these two have more of a heated rivalry vibe.

If you know what I mean.
So it’s not— not that one.
No, that’s— not that one.
No, that wasn’t us.
No, I’m talking about the now former president
of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, who was
reverse-ICE’d and imported.

He was actually imported to a jail in Brooklyn.
But don’t feel bad for him.
He was a feared and cruel dictator.

1. Don’t worry #
2. Be happy #
   La, la, la, la, la, la, la
   Bobby McFerrin karaoke?
   You monster.
   Look, I know that clip makes him seem benign, almost
   kind of comical.
   But the truth is, Maduro oversaw a repressive regime
   that impoverished his nation, silenced dissent,
   and killed thousands.
3. La, la, la, la, la #
   But his iron rule and a cappella terror
   came to an end on Friday night when US Special Forces
   raided Caracas, Venezuela’s only city as far as we know,
   and snatched Nicolas Maduro out of his bedroom,
   apparently before he could even take off his sleep mask.

His Oura Ring must have been like, you had a bad night.

You did not get good deep sleep.

And as it unfolded, Donald Trump
was overseeing it all from a secure location—
the Situation Tent at Mar-a-Lago.

I don’t want to be a dick or a nitpicker.
But is this the most secure location in Mar-a-Lago— behind
the curtain you throw up in front of the catering kitchen?

Bah!
This is a matter of utmost national security!
Desserts are going to have to come out
through the service entrance!
I was never here!
Whoop!

That was me acting as though I was coming out of a—
But honestly, despite the makeshift Command Center,
this was a highly technical and complex
operation that required months of training and preparation.
After months of work by our intelligence
teammates to find Maduro and understand how he moved,
where he lived, where he traveled, what he ate,
what he wore, what were his pets—

Well, that does explain this photo from the raid.

I hope you like eating kibble in Gitmo!

Daphne!

We debated before the show— is it mildly racist
that we gave him a chihuahua?
Is that—

Because basically we’re just— like, is
that— because the chihuahua’s from Mexico, this is Venezuela.
And I thought, well—
so there is some nuance to it, but still mildly racist.

You’re welcome.

Now, obviously, this is actually a very
fraught moment for the world.
It is highly unusual for any government,
any sovereign nation, to violate the airspace and
territory of another sovereign nation and hit the grab
and go on their president.
Explaining it will require the deft hand
of an accomplished statesman.

Let me get there.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you
the President of the United States
addressing the nation in this solemn, solemn moment.
The United States Armed Forces
conducted an extraordinary military operation
in the capital of Venezuela.
It was dark, and it was deadly.
If you look back to the Jimmy Carter days,
they were different days.
Whether it’s in Washington, DC, where
we have a totally safe city—
Restaurants are opening.
Everyone’s happy. They’re going.
They’re walking their daughters.
They’re walking their children, their wives—
Restaurants— restaurants are opening
all over Washington, DC.

(IMITATING TRUMP) So in closing,
if we hadn’t grabbed Maduro, you’d still be
taking Ubers to Ruth’s Chris.

And lest you think I’m making our president look
cavalier in this moment, here’s Trump
describing how he experienced this consequential operation.
DONALD TRUMP: If you would have seen what happened—
I mean, I watched it literally like I was
watching a television show.
(IMITATING TRUMP) And then I flipped
over to see who was on Kimmel.
I mean, can you believe he still gets to interview
Millie Bobby Brown?
I mean, he’s got no talent!
Anyway, back to abducting the president of Venezuela.

Look, no one knows how this operation is going to work out.
But based on the United States’ track record,
my guess is we’re going to be really happy about this
for a couple of weeks.
And then 30 years from now, there
will be a Venezuelan leftist revolution,
and the new government will point
to this moment as the reason our embassy there is on fire.
And it will absolutely ruin a Democrats’ presidency.

Generally, that’s how this shit works.
And remember, the reason MAGA was so high on Donald Trump
was that he was the guy who wasn’t
going to get involved with this kind of shit anymore.
We do not seek war.
We do not seek nation building.
We do not seek regime change.
And we don’t want to be the world’s policeman.
(IMITATING TRUMP) We don’t want to be!

Those days are over now!
No more American boots on the ground!
We’re not afraid of boots on the ground.

No more rebuilding other countries’ infrastructure!
We have to rebuild their whole infrastructure.

Well, it’s not like we’re going to be running
someone else’s country.
We are going to run the country.

So— so let me get this.
This is a big change in America First policy, is it not?
And a change in policy this big is
going to need some of that Trump marketing
and branding magic.
And the Monroe Doctrine is a big deal.
But we’ve superseded it by a lot, by a real lot.
They now call it the “Donroe Doctrine.”

“Donroe Doctrine.”
That’s the one when someone calls it out,
you go, look, no bad ideas.

But honestly, (WHISPERING) not your best work.
The “Donroe Doctrine.”
It’s obviously a portmanteau of “Monroe” and “Donald.”

I guess it’s a spin-off of the Monroe Doctrine,
famously adopted by President James Monroe in 1823
when he warned colonial powers not to interfere
in our hemisphere.
Let me let a historian explain.
DONALD TRUMP: But you look over here.
That’s Monroe, the Monroe Doctrine.
Why is he up there?
DONALD TRUMP: I think the Monroe Doctrine was
pretty important, you know?
That was his claim to fame.
Claim to fame?

Like he ate 18 hot dogs in one sitting?
I mean, I guess it’s correct.
You can’t really name another thing Monroe was famous for.
But it’s not like everywhere Monroe went,
they’d be like, hey, aren’t you that guy from the doctrine?
Babe, get over here.
It’s the doctrine guy.
Hey.

What are you doing in our hemisphere?

I— I told you that would work.
A little Monroe Doctrine humor— slid it in.

Now, look, generally, in American history, when
we intervene in another country,
whether true or not, we come up with a high-minded pretense—
liberating a people, spreading democracy, introducing
baseball to the Japanese.

They complained at first, but it was totally worth it.
On what moral foundation will this conflict be framed?
We’re going to have a presence in Venezuela
as it pertains to oil.
We’re going to get the oil flowing the way it should be.

Seems a little on the nose.
Um.

Oil— precious commodity, certainly— but
not the reason a country, formed 250 years ago
on the ideas of liberty and self-determination,
would go into a country and snatch a man at night.
There must be a slightly more noble pretense.
We’re going to be taking out a tremendous amount
of wealth out of the ground.
We need total access.
We need access to the oil.
Sir, again— I see where we’re going here.
Do you mind just reframing that?
I’m not quite clear on the high-minded principle
behind this.
In other words, we’ll be selling oil.

Is this your first war?
I mean, what the ?
All right, let’s table this for now.
Senator Lindsey Graham, you’re an old hand at war mongering.

You’ve done this a bunch.
You’re on the plane.
Can you help this dude out with a casus belli
and keep Trump from bringing it back to oil?
There are going to be Americans alive today
because he shut down a narco-terrorist
state called Venezuela.
This is a good thing, not a bad thing.
And the oil companies are going to go
in and rebuild their system.
God damn it.
What?

We can’t even be conspiracy theorists now.
I think they did it for the oil.
Yeah, no, I did it for the oil.

Is there any other reason?
Can you give us anything?
There’s a lot of issues— human rights
violations, political prisoners down in Venezuela.
We could certainly free them and improve
the lives of dissidents.
Are you going to demand that Delcy Rodriguez
let opposition figures return or
free any political prisoners?
We haven’t gotten to that yet.
Right now, what we want to do is fix up the oil,
fix up the country.

Yes, we’ll get the people out of jail.
But first, we have to liberate the oil from its ground prison.
That oil’s been locked up for millions of years, yearning
to burn free.
Obviously, I’m being cynical.
It’s not purely for oil.
Even Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick on the plane
could tell you that on his way out of the bathroom.
They have steel.
You have minerals, right, all the critical minerals.
They have a great mining history that’s gone rusty.
So steel, aluminum, minerals—
These mother- are going full conquistador
in front of our eyes.
I mean, they got oil, steel, minerals.
Oh, and don’t forget about the spices, spices.

We’ll load our ships with cinnamon and cardamom,
oil and everything bagels.
You’ll see.

And they might have gotten away with it too.
But our country is a democracy.
So bad news, Don-roe.

Your little oil heist is going to have
to get past the Democrats and Inspector Schumer.
CHUCK SCHUMER: So I’ve been talking to so many
members of my caucus today.
Everybody is very, very just—
just totally, totally, totally troubled, worried.

1. History has its eyes on #

Well, if it were two totallys and one very,
I’d say Trump is getting off scot free.
But three totallys ease and verys and trouble worried?

I don’t want to say the president
doesn’t respect the Democrats.

But he did not brief them before or after this attack.
Now, you could say that was in the interest
of national security and operational confidentiality,
if not for this one group he did speak to.
I have.
Yes.
Before and after.

And then I told Pepsi and Nabisco.
Cologuard— I don’t know why.
What’s the suitcase company on Instagram?
I told them.
I told Hims.
I told Hers.
I let the president of Zyn shoot some missiles.
I—

But I didn’t tell any of the Democrats.

I don’t feel bad for the Democrats.
They will be totally, totally, totally, very, very
fine, probably even gain a seat in the midterms.
The people I feel sorry for are the Trump defendants,
the defenders, the sycophants, who
haven’t received the memo that we
no longer have to frame our adventurism in the ideals
of our great country.
And this is a very strong way to support democracy.
Nothing greater than an American president
who liberates people.
Liberated them for— from a strong man who’s been holding,
by force and intimidation, this country hostage.
We’re not about nation building.
The president doesn’t want its natural resources.
We don’t want their oil.

Oh, poor sweet Brian Kilmeade, sweet, sweet Brian.
Trump already explicitly said he wants their oil.
And democracy?
Trump has already said he wants Venezuelans to freely choose
their leaders, as long as those leaders are acceptable to us.
He’s already said he’s going to select
who will be their next leader.
And guess what?
This ain’t a one-off.
Colombia is very sick too, run
by a sick man who likes making cocaine and selling
it to the United States.
And he’s not going to be doing it very long.
By the way, you have to do something with Mexico.
We need Greenland.
Cuba is ready to fall, you know?
Let the word go forth to a new generation of Americans
that if we need shit and it’s not too far away,
we are going to take it.
Anything else you want to take over?
I think there’s still some time to go after Warner
Brothers Discovery.

I mean, America doesn’t have Netflix money,
but we will after we get that sweet oil.
And by the way, Lindsey Graham.
Honestly, I have never seen him happier,
like a leprechaun in a bowl of Lucky Charms.

I think we’re going to go after Cuba. (IN SILLY VOICE)
Yeah, boss, yeah.
That sounds real good, boss, real good.
(IN REGULAR VOICE) Look, this is all exhausting and
exposes the Gulf of America—
not the body of water.
The real Gulf of America is the gap
between the high aspirations that
embody the founding of this country and
the thuggish gangsterism that this crew
thinks makes us great again.
And if I may offer the news media a New Year’s resolution—
it’s that I don’t ever want to hear again
about the ramifications of how Trump’s actions, however
counter to what he promised in his campaign or the files
that he might release, might alienate his base.
Do you expect to see some splits in the MAGA movement?
Will the MAGA base start to break away?
—widen the rift with his MAGA base.
How’s it going to play for MAGA?
It’ll play fine for MAGA.
They’ll love it.
Their fervor against intervention
will be only matched by their delight in this intervention.
There is no material on Earth more malleable
than the hive-mind connection between Donald Trump and
his acolytes.
And no matter how many times he betrays the principles
they claim to love him for, they will react over and over
with the exact same refrain.

1. Don’t worry #
2. Be happy #
3. La, la, la, la, la, la, la #
   Doh.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/us-based-multinational-companies-exempt-182553390.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. multinational corporations will be exempted from paying more corporate taxes overseas in a deal finalized by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

The OECD announced Monday that nearly 150 countries have agreed on the plan, initially crafted in 2021, to stop large global companies from shifting profits to low-tax countries, no matter where they operate in the world.

dv said:

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/us-based-multinational-companies-exempt-182553390.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. multinational corporations will be exempted from paying more corporate taxes overseas in a deal finalized by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

The OECD announced Monday that nearly 150 countries have agreed on the plan, initially crafted in 2021, to stop large global companies from shifting profits to low-tax countries, no matter where they operate in the world.

so 15% is too much

The amended version excludes large U.S.-based multinational corporations from the 15% global minimum tax after negotiations between President Donald Trump’s administration and other members of the Group of Seven wealthy nations.

hey at least they’ll be playing by the rules based international order

Impeachment isn’t the big deal it once was. He’s already the most impeached president, what’s another one?

Besides, he’s already “joking” about canceling the midterms.

dv said:

No. No I didn’t. Did I need to? No. Will I remember? Unlikely.

Michael V said:

dv said:

No. No I didn’t. Did I need to? No. Will I remember? Unlikely.

It’s fodder for your next trivia night.

LOL

Divine Angel said:

Impeachment isn’t the big deal it once was. He’s already the most impeached president, what’s another one?

Besides, he’s already “joking” about canceling the midterms.

look they haven’t been cancelled until they’re cancelled, stop worrying

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

No. No I didn’t. Did I need to? No. Will I remember? Unlikely.

It’s fodder for your next trivia night.

I haven’t been to a trivia night for probably a quarter of a century. I doubt I will ever go to one again.

:(

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

No. No I didn’t. Did I need to? No. Will I remember? Unlikely.

It’s fodder for your next trivia night.

I haven’t been to a trivia night for probably a quarter of a century. I doubt I will ever go to one again.

:(

I wonder if it will end up on a Trivial Pursuit card?

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

No. No I didn’t. Did I need to? No. Will I remember? Unlikely.

It’s fodder for your next trivia night.

I haven’t been to a trivia night for probably a quarter of a century. I doubt I will ever go to one again.

:(

I’ll organise one based on questions about the forum. I’ll hold it one Saturday night live on the forum just because.

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

It’s fodder for your next trivia night.

I haven’t been to a trivia night for probably a quarter of a century. I doubt I will ever go to one again.

:(

I’ll organise one based on questions about the forum. I’ll hold it one Saturday night live on the forum just because.

Could be weirdly interesting.

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

It’s fodder for your next trivia night.

I haven’t been to a trivia night for probably a quarter of a century. I doubt I will ever go to one again.

:(

I’ll organise one based on questions about the forum. I’ll hold it one Saturday night live on the forum just because.

Like.

:)

dv said:

Fuck, shoot and marry?

I missed a Randy Rainbow just before Christmas. Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTNJQb2fV8I

Kind of weird and sad but I suppose his fans will think this is genius.

dv said:

Kind of weird and sad but I suppose his fans will think this is genius.

Imagine the hole these 3rd world immigrants must come from to consider the USA a prime destination

Cymek said:

dv said:

Kind of weird and sad but I suppose his fans will think this is genius.

Imagine the hole these 3rd world immigrants must come from to consider the USA a prime destination

they get to have more than 10 guns

dv said:

Kind of weird and sad but I suppose his fans will think this is genius.

Italy isn’t third world anymore so we can’t accuse SM of being a complete moron.

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

No. No I didn’t. Did I need to? No. Will I remember? Unlikely.

It’s fodder for your next trivia night.

I haven’t been to a trivia night for probably a quarter of a century. I doubt I will ever go to one again.

:(

We could have a virtual pud …

AussieDJ said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

It’s fodder for your next trivia night.

I haven’t been to a trivia night for probably a quarter of a century. I doubt I will ever go to one again.

:(

We could have a virtual pud …

:)

AussieDJ said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

It’s fodder for your next trivia night.

I haven’t been to a trivia night for probably a quarter of a century. I doubt I will ever go to one again.

:(

We could have a virtual pud …

Me and Mrs S had to stop going to trivia quizzes on a cruise ship. We won so often that there was murmurings of ‘fix’.

I was astonished at the ignorance of my fellow Australians, particularly about the world and current affairs. On a scale which reminded us of Americans.

captain_spalding said:

AussieDJ said:

Michael V said:

I haven’t been to a trivia night for probably a quarter of a century. I doubt I will ever go to one again.

:(

We could have a virtual pud …

Me and Mrs S had to stop going to trivia quizzes on a cruise ship. We won so often that there was murmurings of ‘fix’.

I was astonished at the ignorance of my fellow Australians, particularly about the world and current affairs. On a scale which reminded us of Americans.

I hope they are least could point out on Austria on a map, it is their homeland.

captain_spalding said:

I was astonished at the ignorance of my fellow Australians, particularly about the world and current affairs. On a scale which reminded us of Americans.

intended

captain_spalding said:

I was astonished at the ignorance of my fellow Australians, particularly about the world and current affairs. On a scale which reminded us of Americans.

Well that’s what you get from those that go on cruises, I suppose. 😉

https://www.threads.com/@keneakers/post/DTMKPZVAdxq?xmt=AQF0OT7DhKyLRaJFc-08KTb3E9D1rCYE4iDP3YIp-548ghihIOWvQ23kw8SbpQ9sO-lWs72w&slof=1

Shocking footage of Jerry Lewis pretending he’s not being fellated.

captain_spalding said:

AussieDJ said:

Michael V said:

I haven’t been to a trivia night for probably a quarter of a century. I doubt I will ever go to one again.

:(

We could have a virtual pud …

Me and Mrs S had to stop going to trivia quizzes on a cruise ship. We won so often that there was murmurings of ‘fix’.

I was astonished at the ignorance of my fellow Australians, particularly about the world and current affairs. On a scale which reminded us of Americans.

You’ve been spoiled by all the sophisticated and erudite forumers here.

Woodie said:

captain_spalding said:

I was astonished at the ignorance of my fellow Australians, particularly about the world and current affairs. On a scale which reminded us of Americans.

Well that’s what you get from those that go on cruises, I suppose. 😉

LOL

On the cruise we went on earlier this year, they had a Simpsons trivia thing. I was seasick and didn’t attend (for some reason, that area of the ship always made me seasick) but Mini Me did. She got 8/10. The two she missed was Marge’s middle name, and the name of the alien in the X-Files episode. Which is a stupid question because it doesn’t have a name, it’s Mr Burns. But everyone who answered “Mr Burns” was incorrect.

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

AussieDJ said:

We could have a virtual pud …

Me and Mrs S had to stop going to trivia quizzes on a cruise ship. We won so often that there was murmurings of ‘fix’.

I was astonished at the ignorance of my fellow Australians, particularly about the world and current affairs. On a scale which reminded us of Americans.

You’ve been spoiled by all the sophisticated and erudite forumers here.

awwww shucks.

LOL

https://www.whitehouse.gov/j6/

fucking LOL though

SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.whitehouse.gov/j6/

fucking LOL though

JFC

captain_spalding said:

AussieDJ said:

Michael V said:

I haven’t been to a trivia night for probably a quarter of a century. I doubt I will ever go to one again.

:(

We could have a virtual pud …

Me and Mrs S had to stop going to trivia quizzes on a cruise ship. We won so often that there was murmurings of ‘fix’.

I was astonished at the ignorance of my fellow Australians, particularly about the world and current affairs. On a scale which reminded us of Americans.

Sounds like I’d fit right in there.

dv said:

LOL

bunch of posts on extwitter abusing the grok爱 on images of kkk and various other politicians where they tell it to “remove the (criminal)” (or whatever) and instead of the bot coming up with some bullshit excuse it actually responds seemingly correctly

5 years ago.

Today Rubio looks like a defeated man no matter what’s happening. I hope I live long enough to find out what the hell happened here.

With psychiatrists.

Who remembers spelling bees.
It was big in the US and here in the 50’s and 60’s.
It was on the Radio and TV (not so much) back then

Peak Warming Man said:

Who remembers spelling bees.
It was big in the US and here in the 50’s and 60’s.
It was on the Radio and TV (not so much) back then

I never took part in one but I’m sort of aware that such things took place.

Ep-what files?

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-01-08/us-immigration-agent-fatally-shoots-woman/106208464

A US immigration officer has fatally shot a woman in her car in Minneapolis, officials say.

The mayor says the Trump administration’s claim the incident was self-defence is not true, and told Immigration and Customs Enforcement to “get the f**k out of Minneapolis”.

Immigration agents have been involved in other similar shootings during the Trump administration’s crackdown.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-01-08/us-immigration-agent-fatally-shoots-woman/106208464

A US immigration officer has fatally shot a woman in her car in Minneapolis, officials say.

The mayor says the Trump administration’s claim the incident was self-defence is not true, and told Immigration and Customs Enforcement to “get the f**k out of Minneapolis”.

Immigration agents have been involved in other similar shootings during the Trump administration’s crackdown.

so which is happening first civil war or world war

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Who remembers spelling bees.
It was big in the US and here in the 50’s and 60’s.
It was on the Radio and TV (not so much) back then

I never took part in one but I’m sort of aware that such things took place.

“our faux fonetik alphabetic system is so bad that we need competitions testing kids’ abilities to rote all the exceptions they wrote”

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-01-08/us-immigration-agent-fatally-shoots-woman/106208464

A US immigration officer has fatally shot a woman in her car in Minneapolis, officials say.

The mayor says the Trump administration’s claim the incident was self-defence is not true, and told Immigration and Customs Enforcement to “get the f**k out of Minneapolis”.

Immigration agents have been involved in other similar shootings during the Trump administration’s crackdown.

so which is happening first civil war or world war

War is always uncivil.

RFKjr unveils new dietary pyramid

The guidelines will set limits on added sugar and encourage diets that include meat and dairy.

“Protein and healthy fats are essential and were wrongly discouraged in prior dietary guidelines,” Kennedy said. “We are ending the war on saturated fats.”

As an introduction to the new guidelines, Kennedy and Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins called for a “dramatic reduction” in the consumption of “highly processed foods laden with refined carbohydrates, added sugars, excess sodium, unhealthy fats, and chemical additives.”

“This approach can change the health trajectory for so many Americans,” they wrote, pointing out that more than 70% of American adults are overweight or obese due to a diet that has “become reliant on highly processed foods and coupled with a sedentary lifestyle.”

For years, Americans have been advised to limit saturated fat, and the new pyramid is facing criticism.

“I’m very disappointed in the new pyramid that features red meat and saturated fat sources at the very top, as if that’s something to prioritize. It does go against decades and decades of evidence and research,” says Christopher Gardner, a nutrition expert at Stanford University. He was a member of the Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, which reviewed all the nutrition evidence.

The guidelines also elevate cheese and other dairy to the top of the pyramid, paving the way for the option of full-fat milk and other dairy products in school meals. There’s growing evidence, based on nutrition science, that dairy foods can be beneficial.

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/07/nx-s1-5667021/dietary-guidelines-rfk-jr-nutrition

Divine Angel said:

RFKjr unveils new dietary pyramid

The guidelines will set limits on added sugar and encourage diets that include meat and dairy.

“Protein and healthy fats are essential and were wrongly discouraged in prior dietary guidelines,” Kennedy said. “We are ending the war on saturated fats.”

As an introduction to the new guidelines, Kennedy and Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins called for a “dramatic reduction” in the consumption of “highly processed foods laden with refined carbohydrates, added sugars, excess sodium, unhealthy fats, and chemical additives.”

“This approach can change the health trajectory for so many Americans,” they wrote, pointing out that more than 70% of American adults are overweight or obese due to a diet that has “become reliant on highly processed foods and coupled with a sedentary lifestyle.”

For years, Americans have been advised to limit saturated fat, and the new pyramid is facing criticism.

“I’m very disappointed in the new pyramid that features red meat and saturated fat sources at the very top, as if that’s something to prioritize. It does go against decades and decades of evidence and research,” says Christopher Gardner, a nutrition expert at Stanford University. He was a member of the Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, which reviewed all the nutrition evidence.

The guidelines also elevate cheese and other dairy to the top of the pyramid, paving the way for the option of full-fat milk and other dairy products in school meals. There’s growing evidence, based on nutrition science, that dairy foods can be beneficial.

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/07/nx-s1-5667021/dietary-guidelines-rfk-jr-nutrition

Is that for real?

It doesn’t sound totally stupid, so probably not.

https://www.threads.com/@factpostnews/post/DTN14ESDpgs?xmt=AQF0Sk4C-bOakh45wD2AAV5xqwfPOZ-S1UDrDK7_Kyoa6ISsP-3in4FM5ohUZnQVWHoQXARl&slof=1

House Speaker Michael Johnson tries to play off Rubio’s Greenland comments as a joke

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

RFKjr unveils new dietary pyramid

The guidelines will set limits on added sugar and encourage diets that include meat and dairy.

“Protein and healthy fats are essential and were wrongly discouraged in prior dietary guidelines,” Kennedy said. “We are ending the war on saturated fats.”

As an introduction to the new guidelines, Kennedy and Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins called for a “dramatic reduction” in the consumption of “highly processed foods laden with refined carbohydrates, added sugars, excess sodium, unhealthy fats, and chemical additives.”

“This approach can change the health trajectory for so many Americans,” they wrote, pointing out that more than 70% of American adults are overweight or obese due to a diet that has “become reliant on highly processed foods and coupled with a sedentary lifestyle.”

For years, Americans have been advised to limit saturated fat, and the new pyramid is facing criticism.

“I’m very disappointed in the new pyramid that features red meat and saturated fat sources at the very top, as if that’s something to prioritize. It does go against decades and decades of evidence and research,” says Christopher Gardner, a nutrition expert at Stanford University. He was a member of the Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, which reviewed all the nutrition evidence.

The guidelines also elevate cheese and other dairy to the top of the pyramid, paving the way for the option of full-fat milk and other dairy products in school meals. There’s growing evidence, based on nutrition science, that dairy foods can be beneficial.

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/07/nx-s1-5667021/dietary-guidelines-rfk-jr-nutrition

Is that for real?

It doesn’t sound totally stupid, so probably not.

I wonder how hard they fought to stop Trump putting McDonald’s at the top of the inverted pyramid.

Note the omission of plant-based proteins like beans and lentils.

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

RFKjr unveils new dietary pyramid

The guidelines will set limits on added sugar and encourage diets that include meat and dairy.

“Protein and healthy fats are essential and were wrongly discouraged in prior dietary guidelines,” Kennedy said. “We are ending the war on saturated fats.”

As an introduction to the new guidelines, Kennedy and Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins called for a “dramatic reduction” in the consumption of “highly processed foods laden with refined carbohydrates, added sugars, excess sodium, unhealthy fats, and chemical additives.”

“This approach can change the health trajectory for so many Americans,” they wrote, pointing out that more than 70% of American adults are overweight or obese due to a diet that has “become reliant on highly processed foods and coupled with a sedentary lifestyle.”

For years, Americans have been advised to limit saturated fat, and the new pyramid is facing criticism.

“I’m very disappointed in the new pyramid that features red meat and saturated fat sources at the very top, as if that’s something to prioritize. It does go against decades and decades of evidence and research,” says Christopher Gardner, a nutrition expert at Stanford University. He was a member of the Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, which reviewed all the nutrition evidence.

The guidelines also elevate cheese and other dairy to the top of the pyramid, paving the way for the option of full-fat milk and other dairy products in school meals. There’s growing evidence, based on nutrition science, that dairy foods can be beneficial.

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/07/nx-s1-5667021/dietary-guidelines-rfk-jr-nutrition

Is that for real?

It doesn’t sound totally stupid, so probably not.

I wonder how hard they fought to stop Trump putting McDonald’s at the top of the inverted pyramid.

Note the omission of plant-based proteins like beans and lentils.

I remember that health promotions regarding food aren’t always easy to implement in the USA.
They are considered interference by government in business practices.
Doesn’t matter if they may help save lives or reduce preventable disease.

Divine Angel said:

RFKjr unveils new dietary pyramid

The guidelines will set limits on added sugar and encourage diets that include meat and dairy.

“Protein and healthy fats are essential and were wrongly discouraged in prior dietary guidelines,” Kennedy said. “We are ending the war on saturated fats.”

As an introduction to the new guidelines, Kennedy and Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins called for a “dramatic reduction” in the consumption of “highly processed foods laden with refined carbohydrates, added sugars, excess sodium, unhealthy fats, and chemical additives.”

“This approach can change the health trajectory for so many Americans,” they wrote, pointing out that more than 70% of American adults are overweight or obese due to a diet that has “become reliant on highly processed foods and coupled with a sedentary lifestyle.”

For years, Americans have been advised to limit saturated fat, and the new pyramid is facing criticism.

“I’m very disappointed in the new pyramid that features red meat and saturated fat sources at the very top, as if that’s something to prioritize. It does go against decades and decades of evidence and research,” says Christopher Gardner, a nutrition expert at Stanford University. He was a member of the Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, which reviewed all the nutrition evidence.

The guidelines also elevate cheese and other dairy to the top of the pyramid, paving the way for the option of full-fat milk and other dairy products in school meals. There’s growing evidence, based on nutrition science, that dairy foods can be beneficial.

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/07/nx-s1-5667021/dietary-guidelines-rfk-jr-nutrition

Where’s the road kill?

Ian said:

Divine Angel said:

RFKjr unveils new dietary pyramid

The guidelines will set limits on added sugar and encourage diets that include meat and dairy.

“Protein and healthy fats are essential and were wrongly discouraged in prior dietary guidelines,” Kennedy said. “We are ending the war on saturated fats.”

As an introduction to the new guidelines, Kennedy and Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins called for a “dramatic reduction” in the consumption of “highly processed foods laden with refined carbohydrates, added sugars, excess sodium, unhealthy fats, and chemical additives.”

“This approach can change the health trajectory for so many Americans,” they wrote, pointing out that more than 70% of American adults are overweight or obese due to a diet that has “become reliant on highly processed foods and coupled with a sedentary lifestyle.”

For years, Americans have been advised to limit saturated fat, and the new pyramid is facing criticism.

“I’m very disappointed in the new pyramid that features red meat and saturated fat sources at the very top, as if that’s something to prioritize. It does go against decades and decades of evidence and research,” says Christopher Gardner, a nutrition expert at Stanford University. He was a member of the Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, which reviewed all the nutrition evidence.

The guidelines also elevate cheese and other dairy to the top of the pyramid, paving the way for the option of full-fat milk and other dairy products in school meals. There’s growing evidence, based on nutrition science, that dairy foods can be beneficial.

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/07/nx-s1-5667021/dietary-guidelines-rfk-jr-nutrition

Where’s the road kill?

splattered everywhere

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/ice-officer-shoots-woman-dead-in-dramatic-escalation-of-trump-crackdown-20260108-p5nsgn.html

Minneapolis: A US Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer has shot and killed a 37-year-old woman in Minneapolis, in a dramatic escalation of the Trump administration’s latest immigration crackdown in a major American city.

The woman, who city police said was not a target of an immigration operation, was shot in a car in front of a family member during a traffic stop in a snowy residential neighbourhood south of downtown Minneapolis. Local Democrat senator Tina Smith said she was a US citizen.

The New York Times identified the woman as Renee Nicole Good, according to two local officials with knowledge of the investigation. Local newspaper The Minnesota Star Tribune quoted family members as saying Good had a son aged four or five, whose father had died in 2023. Soft toys could be seen in photographs from the scene.

The deadly incident has fuelled a national debate over Trump’s efforts to send heavily armed federal agents into US cities in his push for mass deportations, with operations ramping up last year from Chicago to Los Angeles. Within hours, the Minneapolis killing ignited protests as far away as New York City.

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Good’s mother, Donna Ganger, told the paper her daughter was “one of the kindest people I’ve ever known” and was probably “terrified” at the time of the shooting, which took place just a few blocks from some of the city’s oldest immigrant markets and 1.6 kilometres from where George Floyd was killed by police in 2020. The shooting quickly drew a crowd of hundreds of angry protesters.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, while visiting Texas, described the incident as an “act of domestic terrorism” carried out against ICE officers by a woman who “attempted to run them over and rammed them with her vehicle”. She said the officer had shot her in defence, “to protect himself and the people around him”.

But Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey blasted that characterisation as “garbage”, saying he had seen video of the shooting that directly contradicted the government’s narrative, and it was “reckless” and unnecessary.

“They’re already trying to spin this as an action of self-defence,” a visibly angry Frey said. “Having seen the video myself, I want to tell everybody directly – that is bullshit.”

Videos of the shooting posted on social media and verified by Reuters raised doubts about the government’s account. One widely shared video shows a maroon Honda SUV partially blocking a road. As the clip begins, the driver inches forward before stopping to let another car drive past.

Footage posted on social media appears to show masked ICE agents approaching a car, before firing at the driver as they attempt to drive away.

The driver, with the window down, then appears to gesture to an approaching ute to go ahead as well. Instead, the ute stops, and two officers exit and approach the Honda on foot. As one of the agents orders the driver out of the SUV and grabs at the door handle, the vehicle reverses briefly, and a third agent comes around to the front of the car from the passenger side.

The driver then goes forward, turning the wheels to the right in what appears to be an effort to head up the street away from the officers. The agent in front of the car pulls his weapon, steps back and fires, with the left front bumper coming close to his legs.

He fires three shots, with at least one shot after the car’s front bumper has already passed him. It was not clear from the video whether the car made contact with the officer, who stayed on his feet throughout the encounter.

After the shots are fired, the car accelerates up the street and crashes into parked cars and a utility pole. Witnesses screamed obscenities, expressing shock at what they had seen.

Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara gave no indication that the woman was trying to harm anyone at the time of the shooting and said she had been shot in the head. Preliminary investigations indicated her vehicle was blocking traffic when a federal officer approached on foot, he said.

“The vehicle began to drive off,” he said. “At least two shots were fired. The vehicle then crashed on the side of the roadway.”

President Donald Trump said in a social media post he had viewed video footage of the incident and criticised the woman shot as acting “very disorderly, obstructing and resisting” and “then violently, wilfully, and viciously” running over the ICE officer.

“The situation is being studied, in its entirety, but the reason these incidents are happening is because the Radical Left is threatening, assaulting, and targeting our Law Enforcement Officers and ICE Agents on a daily basis,” Trump wrote. “They are just trying to do the job of MAKING AMERICA SAFE.”

A dark-coloured SUV with a bullet hole through its windshield and blood splattered across the headrest was seen rammed into a pole on a snowy street after the shooting.

Venus de Mars, who lives near the site of the shooting, described seeing paramedics perform CPR on a woman collapsed next to a snowbank near the crashed car. Shortly afterwards, they loaded her into an ambulance that drove away without its sirens on.

“There’s been lots of ICE activity, but nothing like this,” Mars said. “I’m so angry. I’m so angry, and I feel helpless.”

The shooting has drawn hundreds of protesters into the streets near the scene, some of whom were met by heavily armed federal agents wearing gas masks who fired chemical irritants at the demonstrators.

Addressing the media, Frey blasted Noem’s characterisation of the shooting and the federal deployment of more than 2000 officers as part of the immigration crackdown in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St Paul, telling ICE officers to “get the f—- out of Minneapolis”.

“They are not here to cause safety in this city. What they are doing is not to provide safety in America. What they are doing is causing chaos and distrust,” Frey said. “They’re ripping families apart. They’re sowing chaos on our streets and in this case quite literally killing people.”

Mayor tells ICE to get out of Minneapolis after fatal shooting

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey has addressed the fatal shooting of a woman by federal agents.

However, he also urged residents to remain calm, as did state Governor Tim Walz, who criticised the immigration crackdown but called on people to protest peacefully.

“Do not take the bait,” he said. “Do not allow them to deploy federal troops into here. Do not allow them to invoke the Insurrection Act. Do not allow them to declare martial law.”

He said the shooting was “totally predictable” and “totally avoidable”.

Hours later, at an evening news conference in Minnesota, Noem didn’t back down, claiming the woman was part of a “mob of agitators”. She said the veteran officer who fired his gun had been rammed and dragged by an anti-ICE motorist in June.

“Any loss of life is a tragedy, and I think all of us can agree that in this situation, it was preventable,” Noem said, adding that the FBI would investigate.

The shooting marks a dramatic escalation of the latest in a series of immigration enforcement operations carried out in major American cities under the Trump administration. This incident marks at least the fifth time a person has been killed in a handful of states since 2024.

The Twin Cities have been on edge since DHS announced on Tuesday that it had launched the operation. More than 2000 agents and officers were expected to take part in the crackdown tied in part to allegations of fraud involving Somali residents, related to childcare and other social services.

Protesters at the scene after the shooting vented their anger at the local and federal officers who were there, including Gregory Bovino, a senior US Customs and Border Patrol official who has been the face of crackdowns in Los Angeles, Chicago and elsewhere.

In a scene that hearkened back to the Los Angeles and Chicago crackdowns, bystanders heckled the officers and blew whistles that have become ubiquitous during the operations.

“Shame! Shame! Shame!” and “ICE out of Minnesota!” they loudly chanted from behind the police tape.

During her Texas visit, Noem confirmed the DHS had deployed more than 2000 officers to the Twin Cities and they had already made “hundreds and hundreds” of arrests.

Immigration agents have been involved in other similar shootings during the Trump administration’s crackdown.

During “Operation Midway Blitz”, Trump’s immigration enforcement surge in Chicago last year, ICE agents shot and killed Silverio Villegas Gonzalez, a 38-year-old Mexican national. Gonzalez, a cook and father of two with no criminal record, was shot in his car after agents attempted to arrest him.

A DHS statement said Gonzalez had steered his car at agents, dragging one officer and causing him to fire out of fear for his life. Police bodycam footage obtained by Reuters complicated that narrative, with the ICE agent saying his injuries were “nothing major”.

Border Patrol agents also shot a woman in Chicago in October. DHS said the shooting was in self-defence after the woman, Marimar Martinez, rammed into the agents’ vehicle. But her lawyer said video footage showed the agents hit her car before opening fire.

In December, ICE agents fired at a van carrying two men they were targeting for arrest, leaving one with bullet wounds. A DHS statement said the men drove the van at ICE officers, prompting them to fire in self-defence.

For nearly a year, migrant rights advocates and neighbourhood activists across the Twin Cities have been preparing to mobilise in the event of an immigration enforcement surge. From houses of worship to caravan parks, they have set up very active online networks, scanned licence plates for possible federal vehicles and bought whistles and other noise-making devices to alert neighbourhoods of any enforcement presence.

dv said:

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/ice-officer-shoots-woman-dead-in-dramatic-escalation-of-trump-crackdown-20260108-p5nsgn.html

Minneapolis: A US Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer has shot and killed a 37-year-old woman in Minneapolis, in a dramatic escalation of the Trump administration’s latest immigration crackdown in a major American city.

The woman, who city police said was not a target of an immigration operation, was shot in a car in front of a family member during a traffic stop in a snowy residential neighbourhood south of downtown Minneapolis. Local Democrat senator Tina Smith said she was a US citizen.

The New York Times identified the woman as Renee Nicole Good, according to two local officials with knowledge of the investigation. Local newspaper The Minnesota Star Tribune quoted family members as saying Good had a son aged four or five, whose father had died in 2023. Soft toys could be seen in photographs from the scene.

The deadly incident has fuelled a national debate over Trump’s efforts to send heavily armed federal agents into US cities in his push for mass deportations, with operations ramping up last year from Chicago to Los Angeles. Within hours, the Minneapolis killing ignited protests as far away as New York City.

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Good’s mother, Donna Ganger, told the paper her daughter was “one of the kindest people I’ve ever known” and was probably “terrified” at the time of the shooting, which took place just a few blocks from some of the city’s oldest immigrant markets and 1.6 kilometres from where George Floyd was killed by police in 2020. The shooting quickly drew a crowd of hundreds of angry protesters.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, while visiting Texas, described the incident as an “act of domestic terrorism” carried out against ICE officers by a woman who “attempted to run them over and rammed them with her vehicle”. She said the officer had shot her in defence, “to protect himself and the people around him”.

But Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey blasted that characterisation as “garbage”, saying he had seen video of the shooting that directly contradicted the government’s narrative, and it was “reckless” and unnecessary.

“They’re already trying to spin this as an action of self-defence,” a visibly angry Frey said. “Having seen the video myself, I want to tell everybody directly – that is bullshit.”

Videos of the shooting posted on social media and verified by Reuters raised doubts about the government’s account. One widely shared video shows a maroon Honda SUV partially blocking a road. As the clip begins, the driver inches forward before stopping to let another car drive past.

Footage posted on social media appears to show masked ICE agents approaching a car, before firing at the driver as they attempt to drive away.

The driver, with the window down, then appears to gesture to an approaching ute to go ahead as well. Instead, the ute stops, and two officers exit and approach the Honda on foot. As one of the agents orders the driver out of the SUV and grabs at the door handle, the vehicle reverses briefly, and a third agent comes around to the front of the car from the passenger side.

The driver then goes forward, turning the wheels to the right in what appears to be an effort to head up the street away from the officers. The agent in front of the car pulls his weapon, steps back and fires, with the left front bumper coming close to his legs.

He fires three shots, with at least one shot after the car’s front bumper has already passed him. It was not clear from the video whether the car made contact with the officer, who stayed on his feet throughout the encounter.

After the shots are fired, the car accelerates up the street and crashes into parked cars and a utility pole. Witnesses screamed obscenities, expressing shock at what they had seen.

Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara gave no indication that the woman was trying to harm anyone at the time of the shooting and said she had been shot in the head. Preliminary investigations indicated her vehicle was blocking traffic when a federal officer approached on foot, he said.

“The vehicle began to drive off,” he said. “At least two shots were fired. The vehicle then crashed on the side of the roadway.”

President Donald Trump said in a social media post he had viewed video footage of the incident and criticised the woman shot as acting “very disorderly, obstructing and resisting” and “then violently, wilfully, and viciously” running over the ICE officer.

“The situation is being studied, in its entirety, but the reason these incidents are happening is because the Radical Left is threatening, assaulting, and targeting our Law Enforcement Officers and ICE Agents on a daily basis,” Trump wrote. “They are just trying to do the job of MAKING AMERICA SAFE.”

A dark-coloured SUV with a bullet hole through its windshield and blood splattered across the headrest was seen rammed into a pole on a snowy street after the shooting.

Venus de Mars, who lives near the site of the shooting, described seeing paramedics perform CPR on a woman collapsed next to a snowbank near the crashed car. Shortly afterwards, they loaded her into an ambulance that drove away without its sirens on.

“There’s been lots of ICE activity, but nothing like this,” Mars said. “I’m so angry. I’m so angry, and I feel helpless.”

The shooting has drawn hundreds of protesters into the streets near the scene, some of whom were met by heavily armed federal agents wearing gas masks who fired chemical irritants at the demonstrators.

Addressing the media, Frey blasted Noem’s characterisation of the shooting and the federal deployment of more than 2000 officers as part of the immigration crackdown in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St Paul, telling ICE officers to “get the f—- out of Minneapolis”.

“They are not here to cause safety in this city. What they are doing is not to provide safety in America. What they are doing is causing chaos and distrust,” Frey said. “They’re ripping families apart. They’re sowing chaos on our streets and in this case quite literally killing people.”

Mayor tells ICE to get out of Minneapolis after fatal shooting

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey has addressed the fatal shooting of a woman by federal agents.

However, he also urged residents to remain calm, as did state Governor Tim Walz, who criticised the immigration crackdown but called on people to protest peacefully.

“Do not take the bait,” he said. “Do not allow them to deploy federal troops into here. Do not allow them to invoke the Insurrection Act. Do not allow them to declare martial law.”

He said the shooting was “totally predictable” and “totally avoidable”.

Hours later, at an evening news conference in Minnesota, Noem didn’t back down, claiming the woman was part of a “mob of agitators”. She said the veteran officer who fired his gun had been rammed and dragged by an anti-ICE motorist in June.

“Any loss of life is a tragedy, and I think all of us can agree that in this situation, it was preventable,” Noem said, adding that the FBI would investigate.

The shooting marks a dramatic escalation of the latest in a series of immigration enforcement operations carried out in major American cities under the Trump administration. This incident marks at least the fifth time a person has been killed in a handful of states since 2024.

The Twin Cities have been on edge since DHS announced on Tuesday that it had launched the operation. More than 2000 agents and officers were expected to take part in the crackdown tied in part to allegations of fraud involving Somali residents, related to childcare and other social services.

Protesters at the scene after the shooting vented their anger at the local and federal officers who were there, including Gregory Bovino, a senior US Customs and Border Patrol official who has been the face of crackdowns in Los Angeles, Chicago and elsewhere.

In a scene that hearkened back to the Los Angeles and Chicago crackdowns, bystanders heckled the officers and blew whistles that have become ubiquitous during the operations.

“Shame! Shame! Shame!” and “ICE out of Minnesota!” they loudly chanted from behind the police tape.

During her Texas visit, Noem confirmed the DHS had deployed more than 2000 officers to the Twin Cities and they had already made “hundreds and hundreds” of arrests.

Immigration agents have been involved in other similar shootings during the Trump administration’s crackdown.

During “Operation Midway Blitz”, Trump’s immigration enforcement surge in Chicago last year, ICE agents shot and killed Silverio Villegas Gonzalez, a 38-year-old Mexican national. Gonzalez, a cook and father of two with no criminal record, was shot in his car after agents attempted to arrest him.

A DHS statement said Gonzalez had steered his car at agents, dragging one officer and causing him to fire out of fear for his life. Police bodycam footage obtained by Reuters complicated that narrative, with the ICE agent saying his injuries were “nothing major”.

Border Patrol agents also shot a woman in Chicago in October. DHS said the shooting was in self-defence after the woman, Marimar Martinez, rammed into the agents’ vehicle. But her lawyer said video footage showed the agents hit her car before opening fire.

In December, ICE agents fired at a van carrying two men they were targeting for arrest, leaving one with bullet wounds. A DHS statement said the men drove the van at ICE officers, prompting them to fire in self-defence.

For nearly a year, migrant rights advocates and neighbourhood activists across the Twin Cities have been preparing to mobilise in the event of an immigration enforcement surge. From houses of worship to caravan parks, they have set up very active online networks, scanned licence plates for possible federal vehicles and bought whistles and other noise-making devices to alert neighbourhoods of any enforcement presence.

This is in Nazi Germany right ?

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-01-08/us-immigration-agent-fatally-shoots-woman/106208464

A US immigration officer has fatally shot a woman in her car in Minneapolis, officials say.

The mayor says the Trump administration’s claim the incident was self-defence is not true, and told Immigration and Customs Enforcement to “get the f**k out of Minneapolis”.

Immigration agents have been involved in other similar shootings during the Trump administration’s crackdown.

so which is happening first civil war or world war

It is a wait and see job.

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

RFKjr unveils new dietary pyramid

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/07/nx-s1-5667021/dietary-guidelines-rfk-jr-nutrition

Is that for real?

It doesn’t sound totally stupid, so probably not.

I wonder how hard they fought to stop Trump putting McDonald’s at the top of the inverted pyramid.

Note the omission of plant-based proteins like beans and lentils.

Pulses and grains. Very important foods.