Date: 4/03/2026 01:37:25
From: dv
ID: 2366136
Subject: Australian politics - March 2026

The Financial Review has published polling showing Labor holding two-party leads of 54-46 lead over One Nation and 53-47 over the Coalition.

In their three-cornered pitney of a Preferred Prime Minister poll:
Albanese 34%
Hanson 23%
Taylor 10%

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Date: 4/03/2026 03:31:33
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2366138
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spiny Norman said:


FWIW a copy of the LNP report on their massacre in the last election.

https://pastebin.com/KH2gdKJc

I’m still looking for a more readable copy.

https://www.smh.com.au/interactive/hub/media/tearout-excerpt/55158/Liberal-Party-election-review-December_3u17epax.pdf

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Date: 4/03/2026 03:41:34
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2366139
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

AussieDJ said:


Spiny Norman said:

FWIW a copy of the LNP report on their massacre in the last election.

https://pastebin.com/KH2gdKJc

I’m still looking for a more readable copy.

https://www.smh.com.au/interactive/hub/media/tearout-excerpt/55158/Liberal-Party-election-review-December_3u17epax.pdf

Also sent as an email.

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Date: 4/03/2026 04:47:21
From: Ian
ID: 2366140
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 4/03/2026 09:15:34
From: dv
ID: 2366153
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Ian said:



Pretty funny

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Date: 4/03/2026 09:22:36
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2366154
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

AussieDJ said:


AussieDJ said:

Spiny Norman said:

FWIW a copy of the LNP report on their massacre in the last election.

https://pastebin.com/KH2gdKJc

I’m still looking for a more readable copy.

https://www.smh.com.au/interactive/hub/media/tearout-excerpt/55158/Liberal-Party-election-review-December_3u17epax.pdf

Also sent as an email.

Yep got it thanks. Good find.

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Date: 4/03/2026 09:34:35
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2366156
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


The Financial Review has published polling showing Labor holding two-party leads of 54-46 lead over One Nation and 53-47 over the Coalition.

In their three-cornered pitney of a Preferred Prime Minister poll:
Albanese 34%
Hanson 23%
Taylor 10%

IH Angus Taylor AMAA, but I really can’t see in what way he is worse than Hanson.

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Date: 4/03/2026 09:37:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366157
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The Financial Review has published polling showing Labor holding two-party leads of 54-46 lead over One Nation and 53-47 over the Coalition.

In their three-cornered pitney of a Preferred Prime Minister poll:
Albanese 34%
Hanson 23%
Taylor 10%

IH Angus Taylor AMAA, but I really can’t see in what way he is worse than Hanson.

Voting Intention Reflects Objective Utility ¡

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Date: 4/03/2026 10:24:58
From: dv
ID: 2366163
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The Financial Review has published polling showing Labor holding two-party leads of 54-46 lead over One Nation and 53-47 over the Coalition.

In their three-cornered pitney of a Preferred Prime Minister poll:
Albanese 34%
Hanson 23%
Taylor 10%

IH Angus Taylor AMAA, but I really can’t see in what way he is worse than Hanson.

Voting Intention Reflects Objective Utility ¡

A third of the survey said dunno.

If ON did win they would need to organise a resignation and by-election, Gorton-style, for Hanson if her ambition is to be PM.

Maybe they should throw in Waters and Littleproud for completeness.

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Date: 4/03/2026 10:29:14
From: Michael V
ID: 2366167
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

IH Angus Taylor AMAA, but I really can’t see in what way he is worse than Hanson.

Voting Intention Reflects Objective Utility ¡

A third of the survey said dunno.

If ON did win they would need to organise a resignation and by-election, Gorton-style, for Hanson if her ambition is to be PM.

Maybe they should throw in Waters and Littleproud for completeness.

I really can’t see Hanson running a country. She has had difficulty running her party at times.

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Date: 4/03/2026 13:02:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366223
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

wait wtf

But profits from liquefied natural gas (LNG) fell, with prices falling due to a global over-supply of gas and weak demand.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-04/december-quarter-gdp-2025-australia-economy-growing-fast/106413398

we thought the media were telling us all about how electricity prices were high high high because gas prices were high because there’s a shortfall and Australia had to send it all overseas and we needed more gas capacity

are we living in the wrong decade

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Date: 4/03/2026 13:06:06
From: Cymek
ID: 2366224
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

wait wtf

But profits from liquefied natural gas (LNG) fell, with prices falling due to a global over-supply of gas and weak demand.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-04/december-quarter-gdp-2025-australia-economy-growing-fast/106413398

we thought the media were telling us all about how electricity prices were high high high because gas prices were high because there’s a shortfall and Australia had to send it all overseas and we needed more gas capacity

are we living in the wrong decade

That shouldn’t be allowed to send it overseas and then our own capacity isn’t sufficient
That’s probably commie thinking though

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Date: 4/03/2026 13:09:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 2366226
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

wait wtf

But profits from liquefied natural gas (LNG) fell, with prices falling due to a global over-supply of gas and weak demand.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-04/december-quarter-gdp-2025-australia-economy-growing-fast/106413398

we thought the media were telling us all about how electricity prices were high high high because gas prices were high because there’s a shortfall and Australia had to send it all overseas and we needed more gas capacity

are we living in the wrong decade

That shouldn’t be allowed to send it overseas and then our own capacity isn’t sufficient
That’s probably commie thinking though

Our gas will be worth more because you don’t gave to go through the strait of Hormuz to get it.

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Date: 4/03/2026 14:19:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366243
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:

AussieDJ said:

AussieDJ said:

Spiny Norman said:

FWIW a copy of the LNP report on their massacre in the last election.

https://pastebin.com/KH2gdKJc

I’m still looking for a more readable copy.

https://www.smh.com.au/interactive/hub/media/tearout-excerpt/55158/Liberal-Party-election-review-December_3u17epax.pdf

Also sent as an email.

Highlights from the leaked report.

“Other submissions criticised the lack of policies relevant to women’s interests, or marketing which targeted men, not women. Several female candidates told us that Peter Dutton was disliked by women and asked for him not to visit their electorates. The policies were also seen as female-unfriendly. At least one regional candidate considered the Working from Home policy was the turning point which cost her the seat. “

“Mindful of the political destructiveness of disunity, those MPs who spoke to us consistently admitted they did not challenge a policy direction when they should, nor did they seek party-room debate on contentious issues, over the term. Recollections vary; some MPs believed they had self-censored, keen to preserve unity and avoid damaging leaks from the party room. Others believed dissent and debate were actively discouraged by the Leader or dismissed by the Opposition Leader’s chief of staff without further inquiry. One MP said he told the Opposition Leader during a party room meeting that he did not agree with a policy position and was told he could leave the Party if that was how he felt.”

“However, the Working From Home Policy, which removed the right of Commonwealth public servants to work from home, was announced in March 2025, before the campaign began. This policy was reportedly not taken to the Party Room, nor provided in advance to the Federal Secretariat so that it could be qualitatively tested. Memories vary on who approved it. The policy was reversed a month later. Similarly, the nuclear power policy to develop a government-owned nuclear power program, while released mid-year 2024, did not release its costings (estimated $331B) until December 2024.”

thanks for diving and summarising so this is not a criticism in any way but we’re pretty sure a prolific contributor to this Forum started a recent updated thread about this thing

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Date: 4/03/2026 15:24:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366254
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

sorry

“All voices are important and all voices should be heard,” Cocker said.

disagree

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Date: 4/03/2026 15:34:45
From: Cymek
ID: 2366257
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

sorry

“All voices are important and all voices should be heard,” Cocker said.

disagree

The loud voices are often the ones lacking any sort of wisdom

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Date: 4/03/2026 15:40:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366259
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

sorry

“All voices are important and all voices should be heard,” Cocker said.

disagree

The loud voices are often the ones lacking any sort of wisdom

well there’s also something to be said for not drowning out others but we mean

sure there are finer details to be considered but by and large criminalising hate speech appears to be a net beneficial policy

slogans about freedom of speech and all freedom liberty sovereignty are bosfaeces

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Date: 4/03/2026 15:42:58
From: dv
ID: 2366260
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

AussieDJ said:

Also sent as an email.

Highlights from the leaked report.

“Other submissions criticised the lack of policies relevant to women’s interests, or marketing which targeted men, not women. Several female candidates told us that Peter Dutton was disliked by women and asked for him not to visit their electorates. The policies were also seen as female-unfriendly. At least one regional candidate considered the Working from Home policy was the turning point which cost her the seat. “

“Mindful of the political destructiveness of disunity, those MPs who spoke to us consistently admitted they did not challenge a policy direction when they should, nor did they seek party-room debate on contentious issues, over the term. Recollections vary; some MPs believed they had self-censored, keen to preserve unity and avoid damaging leaks from the party room. Others believed dissent and debate were actively discouraged by the Leader or dismissed by the Opposition Leader’s chief of staff without further inquiry. One MP said he told the Opposition Leader during a party room meeting that he did not agree with a policy position and was told he could leave the Party if that was how he felt.”

“However, the Working From Home Policy, which removed the right of Commonwealth public servants to work from home, was announced in March 2025, before the campaign began. This policy was reportedly not taken to the Party Room, nor provided in advance to the Federal Secretariat so that it could be qualitatively tested. Memories vary on who approved it. The policy was reversed a month later. Similarly, the nuclear power policy to develop a government-owned nuclear power program, while released mid-year 2024, did not release its costings (estimated $331B) until December 2024.”

thanks for diving and summarising so this is not a criticism in any way but we’re pretty sure a prolific contributor to this Forum started a recent updated thread about this thing

Can you provide me the url for that thread?

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Date: 4/03/2026 16:02:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366263
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Highlights from the leaked report.

“Other submissions criticised the lack of policies relevant to women’s interests, or marketing which targeted men, not women. Several female candidates told us that Peter Dutton was disliked by women and asked for him not to visit their electorates. The policies were also seen as female-unfriendly. At least one regional candidate considered the Working from Home policy was the turning point which cost her the seat. “

“Mindful of the political destructiveness of disunity, those MPs who spoke to us consistently admitted they did not challenge a policy direction when they should, nor did they seek party-room debate on contentious issues, over the term. Recollections vary; some MPs believed they had self-censored, keen to preserve unity and avoid damaging leaks from the party room. Others believed dissent and debate were actively discouraged by the Leader or dismissed by the Opposition Leader’s chief of staff without further inquiry. One MP said he told the Opposition Leader during a party room meeting that he did not agree with a policy position and was told he could leave the Party if that was how he felt.”

“However, the Working From Home Policy, which removed the right of Commonwealth public servants to work from home, was announced in March 2025, before the campaign began. This policy was reportedly not taken to the Party Room, nor provided in advance to the Federal Secretariat so that it could be qualitatively tested. Memories vary on who approved it. The policy was reversed a month later. Similarly, the nuclear power policy to develop a government-owned nuclear power program, while released mid-year 2024, did not release its costings (estimated $331B) until December 2024.”

thanks for diving and summarising so this is not a criticism in any way but we’re pretty sure a prolific contributor to this Forum started a recent updated thread about this thing

Can you provide me the url for that thread?

yes sorry we should have expressly included it apologies for having a bit of fun without the serious bits

dv earlier posted the quoted to the https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/18104/ thread

however a contributor known as dv had already recently started the https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/18147/ thread as seen at top of view by topic

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Date: 4/03/2026 17:05:33
From: dv
ID: 2366271
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

thanks for diving and summarising so this is not a criticism in any way but we’re pretty sure a prolific contributor to this Forum started a recent updated thread about this thing

Can you provide me the url for that thread?

yes sorry we should have expressly included it apologies for having a bit of fun without the serious bits

dv earlier posted the quoted to the https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/18104/ thread

however a contributor known as dv had already recently started the https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/18147/ thread as seen at top of view by topic

He’s so capricious

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Date: 4/03/2026 17:10:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2366273
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

It’s reassuring though that Dutton not only proved as completely useless as sensible people were expecting, but even the Liberal Party agreed, with knobs on.

That’s unlikely to prove a lesson to Angus though, who appears to be in almost the same league of uselessness.

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Date: 4/03/2026 17:13:34
From: Cymek
ID: 2366274
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


It’s reassuring though that Dutton not only proved as completely useless as sensible people were expecting, but even the Liberal Party agreed, with knobs on.

That’s unlikely to prove a lesson to Angus though, who appears to be in almost the same league of uselessness.

You think you could sell working from home for woman as positive for The Liberals

Just say they could make hubby, pies, martinis and spruce themselves up for when get home from his real job.

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Date: 4/03/2026 17:13:51
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2366275
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Can you provide me the url for that thread?

yes sorry we should have expressly included it apologies for having a bit of fun without the serious bits

dv earlier posted the quoted to the https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/18104/ thread

however a contributor known as dv had already recently started the https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/18147/ thread as seen at top of view by topic

He’s so capricious

He’s the GOAT!

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Date: 4/03/2026 17:15:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2366276
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

I’ve been boycotting Tasmanian salmon for years and will continue to do so.

Albanese government did not act on advice to halt salmon farming at Macquarie Harbour

The federal environment department recommended the revocation of salmon farming approvals in Tasmania’s Macquarie Harbour in January last year, FOI documents have revealed.

Then-environment minister Tanya Plibersek did not act on the advice, which was based on concerns that the salmon farming industry was having a “significant impact” on the endangered Maugean skate.

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Date: 4/03/2026 19:54:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366327
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-04/islamic-community-group-taha-humanity-association-grant-cancel/106416308

interesting, we seem to remember how it was always reported as bad and authoritarian and human-rights-violating when other places would restrict the practice of certain religions in certain ways, did something change

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Date: 4/03/2026 20:54:00
From: dv
ID: 2366345
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Kind of weird that the ABC dot net dot ay you is the only outlet not covering the visit to Australia by the leader of the free world.

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Date: 5/03/2026 13:05:39
From: dv
ID: 2366460
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/05/canadian-pm-mark-carney-offers-to-team-up-with-australia-as-strategic-cousins-to-push-back-against-dominant-superpowers

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Date: 5/03/2026 13:08:36
From: Cymek
ID: 2366463
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Should Australia acquire nuclear weapons as a deterrence for possible invasion.
Treaties mean nothing and not having them puts us at a disadvantage

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Date: 5/03/2026 13:33:04
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2366474
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/05/canadian-pm-mark-carney-offers-to-team-up-with-australia-as-strategic-cousins-to-push-back-against-dominant-superpowers

“It’s called a ceiling…”

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Date: 5/03/2026 13:49:20
From: Michael V
ID: 2366480
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Cymek said:


Should Australia acquire nuclear weapons as a deterrence for possible invasion.
Treaties mean nothing and not having them puts us at a disadvantage

What if Australia already has…

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Date: 5/03/2026 13:51:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366482
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:

Cymek said:

Should Australia acquire nuclear weapons as a deterrence for possible invasion.
Treaties mean nothing and not having them puts us at a disadvantage

What if Australia already has…

we thought having good relations with others who shares one’s neighbourhood prevents them from taking hostile actions ¿ but what would we know we come here and post so

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Date: 5/03/2026 13:51:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2366483
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/05/canadian-pm-mark-carney-offers-to-team-up-with-australia-as-strategic-cousins-to-push-back-against-dominant-superpowers

“It’s called a ceiling…”

OK. Thanks for that.

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Date: 5/03/2026 14:40:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366495
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/05/canadian-pm-mark-carney-offers-to-team-up-with-australia-as-strategic-cousins-to-push-back-against-dominant-superpowers

“It’s called a ceiling…”

OK. Thanks for that.

bamboo or glass

oh wait judging by the demographic depicted old el paso we guess

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Date: 6/03/2026 07:28:14
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2366668
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Under half of young Australians believe democracy is always a preferable form of government

While new research has found Australians are broadly supportive of democracy, many are unsatisfied with its outcomes.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/younger-australians-lose-faith-in-democracy/thmvv3txm

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Date: 6/03/2026 07:29:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366669
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

what overwhelming confidence in democracy

We might ask: if Labor were in opposition now, would it be against the American-Israeli action? Quite possibly. In power, however, Albanese would have judged that his government had no viable choice but to back Donald Trump’s action.

oh

Critics argue that, given the nature of the Trump administration, Australia should unwind its alliance with the US. The Albanese government rejects that view as not in Australia’s long-term interests — even if it were practical, given the now-advanced integration of our defence forces, to say nothing of AUKUS.

ah that’s right when your costs are sunk, just insist on sinking further ¡ hence the term “sunk cost phallus ie they sunk their battleship”

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Date: 6/03/2026 07:33:45
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2366670
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Woolworths shoppers concerned new anti-theft gates may trap them and hit their children

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/mar/05/woolworths-new-security-gates-customer-concerns

West Indians: ‘Hold my pina colada…’

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Date: 6/03/2026 07:34:48
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2366671
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Oooopps fred wong

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Date: 6/03/2026 07:35:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366673
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

In 1993, crayon-maker Crayola conducted an unscientific, but intriguing poll: it asked US children to name their favourite crayon colour. Most chose a fairly standard blue, but three other blue shades also made the top 10 list.

Seven years later, the firm repeated its experiment. Again, classic blue ranked in the top spot while six other shades of blue appeared in the top 10, including the delightful sounding “blizzard blue”. They were joined by a shade of purple, a green and a pink.

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Date: 6/03/2026 07:43:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366676
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

However, a spokesperson for NSW Health has defended the service: “Royal Prince Alfred Hospital has a long-established culture of clinical excellence and patient-centred care.”

maybe it does, maybe it does

pretty sure it also has a long-established culture of bullying

oh right that’s

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-06/nsw-health-apology-to-rpa-hospital-doctors-over-misconduct-probe/106390886

what the article is kind of about

oh

NSW Health defended the RPA’s culture, pointing to an internal survey of cardiology department staff where 76 per cent said, “The team treats each other with respect.” “Seventy per cent said they feel culturally safe at work while 80 per cent said their job gives them a sense of personal accomplishment,” the spokesperson said.

ah yes 24% disrespect, nice nice

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Date: 6/03/2026 08:06:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 2366680
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Not only should ebikes be banned for children under 16 but they should also have to pay the fines and penalties that other road users do.
This couple look like they hurriedly got dressed when they hear a camera was coming.

They are. worried about loss of sales rather than loss of lives.

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Date: 6/03/2026 09:04:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 2366702
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

There are 244,000 firearm licence holders in Victoria, who own a collective of 974,000 guns. That represents roughly a quarter of the country’s firearms.

and some of them drive into NSW and break down fences to shoot on private property without permission and again the same for Natiobal Parks. No respevt. These people should not be allowed to own a firearm at all.

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Date: 6/03/2026 09:05:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2366703
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


There are 244,000 firearm licence holders in Victoria, who own a collective of 974,000 guns. That represents roughly a quarter of the country’s firearms.

and some of them drive into NSW and break down fences to shoot on private property without permission and again the same for National Parks. No respect. These people should not be allowed to own a firearm at all.

typo city it was.

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Date: 6/03/2026 09:31:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2366704
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


Woolworths shoppers concerned new anti-theft gates may trap them and hit their children

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/mar/05/woolworths-new-security-gates-customer-concerns

West Indians: ‘Hold my pina colada…’

DA also mentioned this. I wonder what was wrong with the previous system?

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Date: 6/03/2026 09:35:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 2366705
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Woolworths shoppers concerned new anti-theft gates may trap them and hit their children

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/mar/05/woolworths-new-security-gates-customer-concerns

West Indians: ‘Hold my pina colada…’

DA also mentioned this. I wonder what was wrong with the previous system?

Possibly too much theft?

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Date: 6/03/2026 09:40:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366706
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Woolworths shoppers concerned new anti-theft gates may trap them and hit their children

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/mar/05/woolworths-new-security-gates-customer-concerns

West Indians: ‘Hold my pina colada…’

DA also mentioned this. I wonder what was wrong with the previous system?

Possibly too much theft?

what previous system we swear they’ve had gates that swing shut for decades

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Date: 6/03/2026 09:41:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366707
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

there yous see capitalism good

The former Northern Territory treasurer who leased Darwin Port to a Chinese-owned company says he would “absolutely” make the same decision again if he had his time over. Former NT government minister Dave Tollner was part of the Country Liberal Party (CLP) cabinet that leased the facility to Landbridge for $506 million in 2015. Chinese-owned company Landbridge has come out in defence of its operation of Darwin Port, as the federal government negotiates to get the facility back “under Australian control”. Mr Tollner branded Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s pre-election promise to take the lease back as an “appalling waste of money”. “I can just see a monumental stuff-up occurring,” Mr Tollner said. “You know, no matter what people think of the Chinese, we’ve done a commercial deal with Landbridge … Landbridge have done a cracker job.

unless it’s some other country doing it

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Date: 6/03/2026 09:50:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 2366710
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

DA also mentioned this. I wonder what was wrong with the previous system?

Possibly too much theft?

what previous system we swear they’ve had gates that swing shut for decades

This they have had.

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Date: 6/03/2026 09:51:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366711
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

don’t worry it’s all good when the little guy wants to read a research article or cover a famous song, come down on them like a tonne of bricks

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-05/australian-artists-warning-to-government-on-ai-copyright/106415900

but if big 跟爱 want full access, just watch the government turn over and hand them the keys

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Date: 6/03/2026 09:52:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366712
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Possibly too much theft?

what previous system we swear they’ve had gates that swing shut for decades

This they have had.

what makes this new system different

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Date: 6/03/2026 09:53:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 2366714
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

don’t worry it’s all good when the little guy wants to read a research article or cover a famous song, come down on them like a tonne of bricks

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-05/australian-artists-warning-to-government-on-ai-copyright/106415900

but if big 跟爱 want full access, just watch the government turn over and hand them the keys

mit Liebe

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Date: 6/03/2026 09:54:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 2366715
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

what previous system we swear they’ve had gates that swing shut for decades

This they have had.

what makes this new system different

It has sticky out bits?

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Date: 6/03/2026 10:02:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366719
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

This they have had.

what makes this new system different

It has sticky out bits?

fair, the others we’ve usually seen are more rounded, exits too






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Date: 6/03/2026 10:09:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366724
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Ms Abel said Jewish Australians have long called for legislative reform to protect religious groups from vilification. “It’s really unfortunate that that offence didn’t’ get through, because it would have provided not only more protection for Jewish people but also other protected groups.”

well, that’s right — yous wouldn’t want to be Protecting The Wrong People now

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Date: 6/03/2026 10:26:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 2366736
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

what makes this new system different

It has sticky out bits?

fair, the others we’ve usually seen are more rounded, exits too







Thing is, you never could get out the in door. The out doors are a different animal but they don’t want you to use it as an in door..

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Date: 6/03/2026 10:29:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366739
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

It has sticky out bits?

fair, the others we’ve usually seen are more rounded, exits too


Thing is, you never could get out the in door. The out doors are a different animal but they don’t want you to use it as an in door..

who doesn’t just walk in and out the serviced aisles though

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Date: 6/03/2026 10:41:04
From: Michael V
ID: 2366751
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

DA also mentioned this. I wonder what was wrong with the previous system?

Possibly too much theft?

what previous system we swear they’ve had gates that swing shut for decades

Yes. But ours are wide soft plastic, not hard paddles.

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Date: 6/03/2026 10:44:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366757
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Possibly too much theft?

what previous system we swear they’ve had gates that swing shut for decades

Yes. But ours are wide soft plastic, not hard paddles.

yeah we haven’t seen anyone jump the clear plastic ones

kind of leads us to wonder if the objections are serious or just more vexatious rage baiting

in the article they mention concerns from a parent of a 1 year old but we wouldn’t be expecting parents of 1 year olds to let them go running through supermarket access gates

then again we are satisfied of the validity of the theory of natural selection so

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Date: 6/03/2026 10:45:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 2366760
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

what previous system we swear they’ve had gates that swing shut for decades

Yes. But ours are wide soft plastic, not hard paddles.

yeah we haven’t seen anyone jump the clear plastic ones

kind of leads us to wonder if the objections are serious or just more vexatious rage baiting

in the article they mention concerns from a parent of a 1 year old but we wouldn’t be expecting parents of 1 year olds to let them go running through supermarket access gates

then again we are satisfied of the validity of the theory of natural selection so

Some parents…

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Date: 6/03/2026 11:53:02
From: buffy
ID: 2366788
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

what makes this new system different

It has sticky out bits?

fair, the others we’ve usually seen are more rounded, exits too







The gate at our IGA was forever getting stuck. It lost it’s automaticity, so you had to push against it to get into the shop. Not so long ago they just removed it altogether.

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Date: 6/03/2026 12:02:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2366790
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Yes. But ours are wide soft plastic, not hard paddles.

yeah we haven’t seen anyone jump the clear plastic ones

kind of leads us to wonder if the objections are serious or just more vexatious rage baiting

in the article they mention concerns from a parent of a 1 year old but we wouldn’t be expecting parents of 1 year olds to let them go running through supermarket access gates

then again we are satisfied of the validity of the theory of natural selection so

Some parents…

not all ¿ parents

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Date: 6/03/2026 17:12:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2367014
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

LOL at all the special interest opinions

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-06/randwick-city-council-propose-paid-beach-parking-for-visitors/106418590

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Date: 6/03/2026 18:10:27
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2367049
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spose this fits here.

TLDR: Moreton Bay Council has been evicting homeless people from public spaces citing public health issues and illegal camping etc. Those evicted were threatened with $8000 fines (which the council says it never collected) and often moved with little or no notice. There is social housing being built, but not enough to house all the homeless. The Supreme Court has found the council to have breached human rights and failed to respect dignity.

The City of Moreton Bay has been found to have breached the human rights of people experiencing homelessness in what is being called a landmark ruling. For years, vulnerable residents have faced eviction from public parks with nowhere else to go, and today the Queensland Supreme Court confirmed that the council’s approach was unlawful and failed to respect basic human dignity.

Justice Paul Smith found that the council acted wrongly when it removed tents and personal belongings without the consent of the people affected. Many people were given little to no notice before being moved on, and the court acknowledged that the number of people sleeping rough in the region far exceeds the available social housing. Forced relocations without alternative accommodation were recognised as likely to cause serious hardship and significant psychological harm.

This case was brought by a group of eight individuals who challenged the council’s actions after being evicted from public spaces. It is about more than a legal technicality. Even when people have nowhere to sleep, they still have rights. Homelessness is not a problem that can be solved through eviction notices and clearing people from public spaces. It is a social issue that demands compassion, support, and practical solutions.

Nourish Street Inc, was founded by Beau, who has lived experiences of both homelessness and addiction. The charity supports hundreds of people each week across Moreton Bay and Brisbane, providing essential services such as meals, clothing, hygiene and tent packs. Beau described the ruling as an important moment for human rights, confirming that even when people are sleeping rough, their dignity and rights must be respected.

The council has stated that public spaces are for use by everyone and are not fit for habitation, and that camping on public land and storing goods without approval contravenes local laws. They say they are actively working with the State and Federal Governments and community groups to support vulnerable people, and continue to advocate for shelter networks, assisted living facilities, and supportive housing solutions. According to the council, “Public spaces are for use by everyone and are not fit for habitation,” and “Council remains committed to balancing the needs of all members of the community.”

However, despite these assurances, the reality on the ground tells a different story. Thousands of complaints about safety, public health, and the use of public land have been logged, yet the council has relied on enforcement rather than addressing root causes. The council itself admits that the Human Rights Act is not a licence to do what is otherwise unlawful, and that local government is not funded or resourced to provide housing. While technically correct, this highlights a gap between law and the support needed to help people survive. For a council responsible for thousands of people struggling to find safe places to sleep, this focus on compliance over care raises serious questions about priorities.

Late February, the council issued further compliance notices relating to alleged alterations of public land by people experiencing homelessness. Each notice carries the maximum penalty of $8,345, yet the council claims it has never enforced a financial penalty against anyone experiencing homelessness and no records exist showing it has ever been applied. For an organisation dealing with thousands of complaints about people sleeping rough, these claims are difficult to believe. It points to a system more concerned with appearances than practical solutions.

The Supreme Court ruling does not prevent the council from conducting future evictions, but it makes clear that any action must operate within the law and respect human rights. For a council that has spent significant resources issuing compliance notices, evicting people, and removing their belongings, this ruling highlights how enforcement-focused policies have repeatedly failed the most vulnerable in the community. It is a moment for Moreton Bay and councils across Australia to reflect on the human cost of prioritising infringements and clearances over practical support and housing solutions.

Homelessness is a complex social issue that cannot be solved with punitive measures alone. While the council continues to enforce local laws, thousands of people remain without safe places to sleep, and resources that could go towards shelters, support services, or pathways into housing are instead spent on enforcement actions. Real solutions require collaboration between governments, community organisations, and housing providers to create stable and safe options for people experiencing homelessness. The court has made it clear that dignity, respect, and compassion must guide any approach, not just the strict application of local laws.

This is a call to action for the City of Moreton Bay. Relying on compliance notices, evictions, and the removal of personal belongings is not a solution. Vulnerable members of the community deserve more than enforcement. They deserve safety, stability, and a chance to live with dignity.

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Date: 6/03/2026 18:45:48
From: Michael V
ID: 2367066
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


Spose this fits here.

TLDR: Moreton Bay Council has been evicting homeless people from public spaces citing public health issues and illegal camping etc. Those evicted were threatened with $8000 fines (which the council says it never collected) and often moved with little or no notice. There is social housing being built, but not enough to house all the homeless. The Supreme Court has found the council to have breached human rights and failed to respect dignity.

The City of Moreton Bay has been found to have breached the human rights of people experiencing homelessness in what is being called a landmark ruling. For years, vulnerable residents have faced eviction from public parks with nowhere else to go, and today the Queensland Supreme Court confirmed that the council’s approach was unlawful and failed to respect basic human dignity.

Justice Paul Smith found that the council acted wrongly when it removed tents and personal belongings without the consent of the people affected. Many people were given little to no notice before being moved on, and the court acknowledged that the number of people sleeping rough in the region far exceeds the available social housing. Forced relocations without alternative accommodation were recognised as likely to cause serious hardship and significant psychological harm.

This case was brought by a group of eight individuals who challenged the council’s actions after being evicted from public spaces. It is about more than a legal technicality. Even when people have nowhere to sleep, they still have rights. Homelessness is not a problem that can be solved through eviction notices and clearing people from public spaces. It is a social issue that demands compassion, support, and practical solutions.

Nourish Street Inc, was founded by Beau, who has lived experiences of both homelessness and addiction. The charity supports hundreds of people each week across Moreton Bay and Brisbane, providing essential services such as meals, clothing, hygiene and tent packs. Beau described the ruling as an important moment for human rights, confirming that even when people are sleeping rough, their dignity and rights must be respected.

The council has stated that public spaces are for use by everyone and are not fit for habitation, and that camping on public land and storing goods without approval contravenes local laws. They say they are actively working with the State and Federal Governments and community groups to support vulnerable people, and continue to advocate for shelter networks, assisted living facilities, and supportive housing solutions. According to the council, “Public spaces are for use by everyone and are not fit for habitation,” and “Council remains committed to balancing the needs of all members of the community.”

However, despite these assurances, the reality on the ground tells a different story. Thousands of complaints about safety, public health, and the use of public land have been logged, yet the council has relied on enforcement rather than addressing root causes. The council itself admits that the Human Rights Act is not a licence to do what is otherwise unlawful, and that local government is not funded or resourced to provide housing. While technically correct, this highlights a gap between law and the support needed to help people survive. For a council responsible for thousands of people struggling to find safe places to sleep, this focus on compliance over care raises serious questions about priorities.

Late February, the council issued further compliance notices relating to alleged alterations of public land by people experiencing homelessness. Each notice carries the maximum penalty of $8,345, yet the council claims it has never enforced a financial penalty against anyone experiencing homelessness and no records exist showing it has ever been applied. For an organisation dealing with thousands of complaints about people sleeping rough, these claims are difficult to believe. It points to a system more concerned with appearances than practical solutions.

The Supreme Court ruling does not prevent the council from conducting future evictions, but it makes clear that any action must operate within the law and respect human rights. For a council that has spent significant resources issuing compliance notices, evicting people, and removing their belongings, this ruling highlights how enforcement-focused policies have repeatedly failed the most vulnerable in the community. It is a moment for Moreton Bay and councils across Australia to reflect on the human cost of prioritising infringements and clearances over practical support and housing solutions.

Homelessness is a complex social issue that cannot be solved with punitive measures alone. While the council continues to enforce local laws, thousands of people remain without safe places to sleep, and resources that could go towards shelters, support services, or pathways into housing are instead spent on enforcement actions. Real solutions require collaboration between governments, community organisations, and housing providers to create stable and safe options for people experiencing homelessness. The court has made it clear that dignity, respect, and compassion must guide any approach, not just the strict application of local laws.

This is a call to action for the City of Moreton Bay. Relying on compliance notices, evictions, and the removal of personal belongings is not a solution. Vulnerable members of the community deserve more than enforcement. They deserve safety, stability, and a chance to live with dignity.

Good. I hope the Council replaces the tents and belongings that ended up being destroyed.

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Date: 6/03/2026 21:50:23
From: dv
ID: 2367108
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The first Morgan Poll conducted since the start of the Angus epoch has the 2PP at 56 – 44 in the ALP’s favour.

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Date: 6/03/2026 22:39:33
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2367114
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


The first Morgan Poll conducted since the start of the Angus epoch has the 2PP at 56 – 44 in the ALP’s favour.

Not surprising.

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Date: 7/03/2026 07:42:39
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2367137
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

It’s all pretty hush hush but apparently Dan Andrews is in a pretty bad way.

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Date: 7/03/2026 07:48:31
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2367138
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


It’s all pretty hush hush but apparently Dan Andrews is in a pretty bad way.

Obviously it’s caused by the covid vaccines.

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Date: 7/03/2026 07:51:10
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2367139
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

It’s all pretty hush hush but apparently Dan Andrews is in a pretty bad way.

Obviously it’s caused by the covid vaccines.

Long term lockdown fatigue.

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Date: 8/03/2026 00:09:53
From: dv
ID: 2367387
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 8/03/2026 08:29:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 2367435
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Oh dear. Barellan. The centre of the universe. Farrer BigFarma rears its ugly head.

The issue of who owns the water.

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Date: 8/03/2026 11:28:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2367467
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

so … this is actually a political hit piece

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-08/sa-government-wrongly-attributes-email-to-deceased-man-/106428332

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Date: 8/03/2026 12:20:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 2367496
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The federal government is considering a request for military assistance from Gulf states targeted by Iranian attacks as the war in the Middle East enters its second week.

Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong would not provide details on the type of military assistance being considered, but said the government would be transparent if it accepted the request.

The minister reiterated that Australia’s position remains that it will not participate in offensive action against Iran.

> Hang on a minute… These places are being attacked by Iran because they have US bases on them. The USA has attacked Iran. We haven’t. Isn’t it up to the USA to provide the protection for these?

Why is it our business?

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Date: 8/03/2026 12:21:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2367499
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:

The federal government is considering a request for military assistance from Gulf states targeted by Iranian attacks as the war in the Middle East enters its second week.

Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong would not provide details on the type of military assistance being considered, but said the government would be transparent if it accepted the request.

The minister reiterated that Australia’s position remains that it will not participate in offensive action against Iran.

> Hang on a minute… These places are being attacked by Iran because they have US bases on them. The USA has attacked Iran. We haven’t. Isn’t it up to the USA to provide the protection for these?

Why is it our business?

maybe we can grab some of the spoils when they break

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Date: 8/03/2026 12:22:02
From: party_pants
ID: 2367500
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


The federal government is considering a request for military assistance from Gulf states targeted by Iranian attacks as the war in the Middle East enters its second week.

Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong would not provide details on the type of military assistance being considered, but said the government would be transparent if it accepted the request.

The minister reiterated that Australia’s position remains that it will not participate in offensive action against Iran.

> Hang on a minute… These places are being attacked by Iran because they have US bases on them. The USA has attacked Iran. We haven’t. Isn’t it up to the USA to provide the protection for these?

Why is it our business?

If other countries formally put in a request for military assistance, it becomes our business whether to say yes or no or maybe.

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Date: 8/03/2026 12:23:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 2367502
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

The federal government is considering a request for military assistance from Gulf states targeted by Iranian attacks as the war in the Middle East enters its second week.

Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong would not provide details on the type of military assistance being considered, but said the government would be transparent if it accepted the request.

The minister reiterated that Australia’s position remains that it will not participate in offensive action against Iran.

> Hang on a minute… These places are being attacked by Iran because they have US bases on them. The USA has attacked Iran. We haven’t. Isn’t it up to the USA to provide the protection for these?

Why is it our business?

If other countries formally put in a request for military assistance, it becomes our business whether to say yes or no or maybe.

I understand that but why aren’t they asking the yanks first?

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Date: 8/03/2026 12:25:06
From: party_pants
ID: 2367505
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

The federal government is considering a request for military assistance from Gulf states targeted by Iranian attacks as the war in the Middle East enters its second week.

Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong would not provide details on the type of military assistance being considered, but said the government would be transparent if it accepted the request.

The minister reiterated that Australia’s position remains that it will not participate in offensive action against Iran.

> Hang on a minute… These places are being attacked by Iran because they have US bases on them. The USA has attacked Iran. We haven’t. Isn’t it up to the USA to provide the protection for these?

Why is it our business?

If other countries formally put in a request for military assistance, it becomes our business whether to say yes or no or maybe.

I understand that but why aren’t they asking the yanks first?

They probably already have.

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Date: 8/03/2026 12:45:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2367514
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

If other countries formally put in a request for military assistance, it becomes our business whether to say yes or no or maybe.

I understand that but why aren’t they asking the yanks first?

They probably already have.

so great free allies USSA for whatever reason aren’t providing enough assistance

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Date: 8/03/2026 12:52:31
From: Michael V
ID: 2367516
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

The federal government is considering a request for military assistance from Gulf states targeted by Iranian attacks as the war in the Middle East enters its second week.

Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong would not provide details on the type of military assistance being considered, but said the government would be transparent if it accepted the request.

The minister reiterated that Australia’s position remains that it will not participate in offensive action against Iran.

> Hang on a minute… These places are being attacked by Iran because they have US bases on them. The USA has attacked Iran. We haven’t. Isn’t it up to the USA to provide the protection for these?

Why is it our business?

If other countries formally put in a request for military assistance, it becomes our business whether to say yes or no or maybe.

I definitely prefer that Australia kept its nose out of other people’s wars. If the Labor Party were to commit us to any fighting in this war, I would definitely vote against them at the next election.

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Date: 8/03/2026 17:08:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 2367655
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026


The Nationals smiling face to keep One Nation at bay.

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Date: 8/03/2026 17:53:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2367678
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

All a bit academic since no-one knows what the women themselves want:

Women’s Asian Cup 2026: ‘No way’ Iran’s footballers can return home, with calls to protect them in Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-07/iran-women-s-football-calls-for-protection-womens-asian-cup/106428380

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Date: 8/03/2026 18:29:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 2367692
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


All a bit academic since no-one knows what the women themselves want:

Women’s Asian Cup 2026: ‘No way’ Iran’s footballers can return home, with calls to protect them in Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-07/iran-women-s-football-calls-for-protection-womens-asian-cup/106428380

They deliberately didn’t sing the anthem in unision.

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Date: 8/03/2026 20:40:15
From: dv
ID: 2367717
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Counting is underway in the Nightcliff by-election.

Nightcliff is a Northern Territory seat that was won by Kat McNamara of the Greens last time. Indeed this was the first time that the Greens have won a seat in the chamber.

McNamara resigned for health reasons.

At present it looks pretty close between ALP and Greens. ALP has its nose in front but there are a lot of votes to count yet.

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Date: 8/03/2026 22:34:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2367738
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

The federal government is considering a request for military assistance from Gulf states targeted by Iranian attacks as the war in the Middle East enters its second week.

Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong would not provide details on the type of military assistance being considered, but said the government would be transparent if it accepted the request.

The minister reiterated that Australia’s position remains that it will not participate in offensive action against Iran.

> Hang on a minute… These places are being attacked by Iran because they have US bases on them. The USA has attacked Iran. We haven’t. Isn’t it up to the USA to provide the protection for these?

Why is it our business?

If other countries formally put in a request for military assistance, it becomes our business whether to say yes or no or maybe.

I definitely prefer that Australia kept its nose out of other people’s wars. If the Labor Party were to commit us to any fighting in this war, I would definitely vote against them at the next election.

Thing is, what can we do to help them? They need patriots or other iron dome type of expensive weapons to throw at cheap drones.
As has been noted arlier, these gulf countries have enough money to give the Ukranians for their anti-sahid drone tech. Tthe Ukranians could then afford more to throw more back at Poo-Tin.

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Date: 10/03/2026 00:18:41
From: dv
ID: 2368127
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The Farrer by-election has been announced for 9 May.

As expected, the ALP will not contest the election. Liberals and Nationals are running separately. Before Ley got it, this was Tim Fischer’s old seat. This will be a four-way contest between Libs, Nats, ONP and the independent Michelle Milthorpe.

Candidates:

Liberal (not announced yet) National Brad Robertson One Nation David Farley Independent Michelle Milthorpe Family First Rebecca Scriven Greens (not announced yet) People First (not announced yet)

People First is Gerard Rennick’s outfit.

Haven’t heard that Shooters and Fishers are running, maybe they are sitting this one out.

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Date: 10/03/2026 00:26:40
From: party_pants
ID: 2368128
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


The Farrer by-election has been announced for 9 May.

As expected, the ALP will not contest the election. Liberals and Nationals are running separately. Before Ley got it, this was Tim Fischer’s old seat. This will be a four-way contest between Libs, Nats, ONP and the independent Michelle Milthorpe.

Candidates:

Liberal (not announced yet) National Brad Robertson One Nation David Farley Independent Michelle Milthorpe Family First Rebecca Scriven Greens (not announced yet) People First (not announced yet)

People First is Gerard Rennick’s outfit.

Haven’t heard that Shooters and Fishers are running, maybe they are sitting this one out.

It is going to be a bloodbath. Expect it to get nasty.

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Date: 10/03/2026 14:28:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2368243
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

what a wedge eh, a wedge with negative width

Nationals Leader David Littleproud says the government needs to ensure Iranian footballers who have sought asylum in Australia do not bring values of “tyranny”.

Angus Taylor says the Coalition also supports the decision to offer humanitarian visas to five Iranian soccer players. Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke says he met with the women last night and told them they were “welcome to stay in Australia”. The opposition leader says it’s a welcome development and that the women showed “enormous courage” in standing up against the Iranian regime. “Every reasonable Australian would want a good outcome for their safety and for their future,” Taylor says. Shadow Home Affairs Minister Jonno Duniam says the opposition is satisfied the government has acted in a way that accords with Australian law.

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Date: 10/03/2026 14:32:12
From: Cymek
ID: 2368245
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

what a wedge eh, a wedge with negative width

Nationals Leader David Littleproud says the government needs to ensure Iranian footballers who have sought asylum in Australia do not bring values of “tyranny”.

Angus Taylor says the Coalition also supports the decision to offer humanitarian visas to five Iranian soccer players. Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke says he met with the women last night and told them they were “welcome to stay in Australia”. The opposition leader says it’s a welcome development and that the women showed “enormous courage” in standing up against the Iranian regime. “Every reasonable Australian would want a good outcome for their safety and for their future,” Taylor says. Shadow Home Affairs Minister Jonno Duniam says the opposition is satisfied the government has acted in a way that accords with Australian law.

Iya tolla them off if they acted that way

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Date: 10/03/2026 16:05:10
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2368282
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Littleproud has resigned as Nationals leader.

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Date: 10/03/2026 16:09:43
From: Cymek
ID: 2368284
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


Littleproud has resigned as Nationals leader.

His successor is Evenlessproud

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Date: 10/03/2026 16:11:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2368286
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

“I’m buggered, I’ve had enough,” he told reporters, while flanked by his wife, Amelia.

“You’ve got to be honest with yourself when there’s someone better.”

Mr Littleproud cried as he spoke to reporters, saying it had been “pretty rough” since the May election.

“I have been a punching bag for months. I don’t really give a rat’s, but at some point you … have to be honest with yourself,” he said.

“It is time for me to feel normal again.”

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Date: 10/03/2026 16:12:15
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2368287
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


Littleproud has resigned as Nationals leader.

He’s going to be missed, a good man.

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Date: 10/03/2026 16:26:00
From: buffy
ID: 2368293
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Peak Warming Man said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Littleproud has resigned as Nationals leader.

He’s going to be missed, a good man.

He says he isn’t resigning his seat. Let’s wait and see. Although yet another by-election would not be good.

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Date: 10/03/2026 19:33:08
From: dv
ID: 2368370
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Did I mention Littleproud resigned?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-10/david-littleproud-steps-down-as-nationals-leader/106437902

He says he is buggered.

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Date: 10/03/2026 19:51:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2368374
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Did I mention Littleproud resigned?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-10/david-littleproud-steps-down-as-nationals-leader/106437902

He says he is buggered.

We were discussing it earlier but you don’t often click on other people’s posts.

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Date: 10/03/2026 19:52:26
From: Michael V
ID: 2368376
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Did I mention Littleproud resigned?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-10/david-littleproud-steps-down-as-nationals-leader/106437902

He says he is buggered.

Oooh!

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Date: 10/03/2026 20:00:37
From: dv
ID: 2368378
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Did I mention Littleproud resigned?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-10/david-littleproud-steps-down-as-nationals-leader/106437902

He says he is buggered.

We were discussing it earlier but you don’t often click on other people’s posts.

You’re right.

Or at least I only click on a minority of them. I just pop in a few times and interact with whatever is in the top of the viewbytime.

Still, nobody’s perfect.

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Date: 10/03/2026 20:06:47
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2368379
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Did I mention Littleproud resigned?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-10/david-littleproud-steps-down-as-nationals-leader/106437902

He says he is buggered.

We were discussing it earlier but you don’t often click on other people’s posts.

You’re right.

Or at least I only click on a minority of them. I just pop in a few times and interact with whatever is in the top of the viewbytime.

Still, nobody’s perfect.

well, they ain’t making jews like jesus any more.

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Date: 10/03/2026 20:20:18
From: dv
ID: 2368382
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

JudgeMental said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

We were discussing it earlier but you don’t often click on other people’s posts.

You’re right.

Or at least I only click on a minority of them. I just pop in a few times and interact with whatever is in the top of the viewbytime.

Still, nobody’s perfect.

well, they ain’t making jews like jesus any more.

On the other hand, bit rude of me to post news without a quick look to see whether it has been discussed. I should do a PWMstyle “No doubt you are all over this”.

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Date: 10/03/2026 20:30:39
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2368383
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Did I mention Littleproud resigned?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-10/david-littleproud-steps-down-as-nationals-leader/106437902

He says he is buggered.

Out of touch with the rest of the population.

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Date: 10/03/2026 21:16:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2368392
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Did I mention Littleproud resigned?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-10/david-littleproud-steps-down-as-nationals-leader/106437902

He says he is buggered.

We were discussing it earlier but you don’t often click on other people’s posts.

don’t worry we(1,0,0) hadn’t discussed it so all good that’s the important thing

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Date: 11/03/2026 01:00:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2368413
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Two more members of the Iranian women’s feetball team have sought asylum, bringing the total now to seven.

Seven members of Iran’s women’s football team have sought asylum, ABC understands

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Date: 11/03/2026 11:35:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2368453
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

LOL

NAPLAN testing for more than 1.3 million Australian students has been paused following technology problems with the online assessment. Tests were to start today but in a statement to ABC News the Australian Curriculum Assessment and Reporting Authority (ACARA) said schools, “have been advised to pause testing”.

“We are aware of a widespread issue affecting students being able to log on to the online platform to complete their NAPLAN assessments,” the ACARA statement read. “This issue is being urgently investigated by our technology provider, Education Services Australia, who run the platform.” The Victorian Curriculum Assessment and Reporting Authority told ABC local radio tests would likely resume tomorrow.

Year 3 students who sit paper versions of the test have been told they can continue testing as normal.

guess wood laminated graphite sticks and bleached fibrous sheeting aren’t about to be phased out anytime soon

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Date: 11/03/2026 11:38:25
From: Cymek
ID: 2368454
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

LOL

NAPLAN testing for more than 1.3 million Australian students has been paused following technology problems with the online assessment. Tests were to start today but in a statement to ABC News the Australian Curriculum Assessment and Reporting Authority (ACARA) said schools, “have been advised to pause testing”.

“We are aware of a widespread issue affecting students being able to log on to the online platform to complete their NAPLAN assessments,” the ACARA statement read. “This issue is being urgently investigated by our technology provider, Education Services Australia, who run the platform.” The Victorian Curriculum Assessment and Reporting Authority told ABC local radio tests would likely resume tomorrow.

Year 3 students who sit paper versions of the test have been told they can continue testing as normal.

guess wood laminated graphite sticks and bleached fibrous sheeting aren’t about to be phased out anytime soon

I imagine online versions could be fiddled with to boost or lower scores depending on agendas

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Date: 11/03/2026 11:50:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2368462
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

NAPLAN testing for more than 1.3 million Australian students has been paused following technology problems with the online assessment. Tests were to start today but in a statement to ABC News the Australian Curriculum Assessment and Reporting Authority (ACARA) said schools, “have been advised to pause testing”.

“We are aware of a widespread issue affecting students being able to log on to the online platform to complete their NAPLAN assessments,” the ACARA statement read. “This issue is being urgently investigated by our technology provider, Education Services Australia, who run the platform.” The Victorian Curriculum Assessment and Reporting Authority told ABC local radio tests would likely resume tomorrow.

Year 3 students who sit paper versions of the test have been told they can continue testing as normal.

guess wood laminated graphite sticks and bleached fibrous sheeting aren’t about to be phased out anytime soon

I imagine online versions could be fiddled with to boost or lower scores depending on agendas

so

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/naplan-technical-issues-disrupt-school-testing/106440510

NAPLAN testing moved online in 2022 to speed up the time it takes for parents to get results back.

Further reforms agreed to by education ministers, and introduced in 2023, moved the date of testing forward from May to March.

The earlier start time was designed to allow schools and teachers to intervene earlier with students who may be struggling with literacy and numeracy.

In a statement today, before the tests were paused, Education Minister Jason Clare said the earlier online testing meant NAPLAN was more valuable.

“We’ve made the most sweeping reforms to NAPLAN since it started in 2008. The turnaround time in NAPLAN results is faster than ever. What used to take months is now back in teachers’ hands within weeks,” Mr Clare said.

“This helps us identify kids earlier who may be struggling and help give them the support they need.

NAPLAN results also provide valuable data to inform national reform. The 2025 NAPLAN results showed encouraging signs, but there is more work to do.”

why does it need to be done central online, what is the purpose of that except to directly compare students classes schools regions

because otherwise you can simply deliver the assessment structure in modules to each educational facility and let it generate a local report

which would also be most relevant and applicable to the local facility

data collection can be done by … collecting … the data

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Date: 11/03/2026 12:30:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2368479
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

so are we fucked

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/foreign-fake-news-pauline-hanson-one-nation/106436702

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Date: 11/03/2026 12:35:38
From: Michael V
ID: 2368481
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

so are we fucked

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/foreign-fake-news-pauline-hanson-one-nation/106436702

And Canavan is the new leader of the Nationals.

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Date: 11/03/2026 12:37:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2368482
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

so are we fucked

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/foreign-fake-news-pauline-hanson-one-nation/106436702

And Canavan is the new leader of the Nationals.

it’s interesting that there’s all this inauthentic bias towards certain teams but they don’t once mention “foreign interference” it’s almost as if it’s paid for by local interests

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Date: 11/03/2026 12:39:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2368483
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

so are we fucked

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/foreign-fake-news-pauline-hanson-one-nation/106436702

And Canavan is the new leader of the Nationals.

He’s a bit if a loose cannon compared to Littleproud who was more of a steady as she goes sort of chap.

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Date: 11/03/2026 12:45:01
From: Cymek
ID: 2368486
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

so are we fucked

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/foreign-fake-news-pauline-hanson-one-nation/106436702

Apparently she doesn’t pull her pants down or have a vendetta against shopping trolleys

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Date: 11/03/2026 12:47:17
From: Michael V
ID: 2368487
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

so are we fucked

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/foreign-fake-news-pauline-hanson-one-nation/106436702

And Canavan is the new leader of the Nationals.

He’s a bit if a loose cannon compared to Littleproud who was more of a steady as she goes sort of chap.

And Canavan is about 3 paces to the right of Genghis Khan.

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Date: 11/03/2026 12:51:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 2368489
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

so are we fucked

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/foreign-fake-news-pauline-hanson-one-nation/106436702

Who is?

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Date: 11/03/2026 12:54:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 2368491
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

And Canavan is the new leader of the Nationals.

He’s a bit if a loose cannon compared to Littleproud who was more of a steady as she goes sort of chap.

And Canavan is about 3 paces to the right of Genghis Khan.

Hope he washes more often.

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Date: 11/03/2026 13:15:49
From: dv
ID: 2368501
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

so are we fucked

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/foreign-fake-news-pauline-hanson-one-nation/106436702

And Canavan is the new leader of the Nationals.

lol

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Date: 11/03/2026 13:19:22
From: Cymek
ID: 2368503
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

so are we fucked

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/foreign-fake-news-pauline-hanson-one-nation/106436702

And Canavan is the new leader of the Nationals.

lol

Canavan of Courage the Ewok story

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Date: 11/03/2026 13:30:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2368508
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

uh so no electroshock or firearm tactical response, even after they shot at police, probably not a Sudanese teenage male then

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/woman-allegedly-shoots-at-police-south-grafton-car-chase-nsw/106439986

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Date: 11/03/2026 13:36:05
From: dv
ID: 2368511
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/anti-corruption-investigation-into-robodebt-findings/106440278

Two people involved in the Robodebt scheme have been found to be corrupt.

A National Anti-Corruption Commission report has found two of six people referred to it for investigation engaged in corrupt conduct, while it cleared the remaining four.

Those cleared include former prime minister Scott Morrison.

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Date: 11/03/2026 14:20:27
From: dv
ID: 2368535
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 11/03/2026 15:58:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2368563
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

I know that criticising appearances is shallow, but it seems National Party leaders all have to look a bit…odd.

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Date: 11/03/2026 16:00:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 2368564
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


I know that criticising appearances is shallow, but it seems National Party leaders all have to look a bit…odd.


The look of a right wing nutter.

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Date: 11/03/2026 16:09:38
From: Cymek
ID: 2368572
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

I know that criticising appearances is shallow, but it seems National Party leaders all have to look a bit…odd.


The look of a right wing nutter.

Kicked in the head by a horse or Crazy Joe Davola

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Date: 11/03/2026 17:35:44
From: Ian
ID: 2368618
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

I know that criticising appearances is shallow, but it seems National Party leaders all have to look a bit…odd.


The look of a right wing nutter.

Kicked in the head by a horse or Crazy Joe Davola

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Date: 11/03/2026 17:59:00
From: dv
ID: 2368623
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Some people won’t take Fuck Off And Die for an answer.

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Date: 11/03/2026 18:11:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2368630
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Some people won’t take Fuck Off And Die for an answer.

Heh.

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Date: 11/03/2026 18:12:37
From: Michael V
ID: 2368631
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Some people won’t take Fuck Off And Die for an answer.

Ha!

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Date: 11/03/2026 19:25:13
From: Ian
ID: 2368649
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite ‘em,
And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.

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Date: 11/03/2026 19:26:32
From: Ian
ID: 2368650
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Ian said:


Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite ‘em,
And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.

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Date: 11/03/2026 19:35:09
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2368651
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Ian said:


Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite ‘em,
And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.

It’s fallen in the water!

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Date: 12/03/2026 02:15:10
From: Kingy
ID: 2368725
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

David Littleproud resigns as Nationals leader because Angus Taylor keeps pinching his water during cabinet meetings.

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Date: 12/03/2026 09:31:04
From: buffy
ID: 2368741
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

I reckon there is more to this than is being made public.

Former ASIO boss says he was ‘surplus to requirements’ of antisemitism royal commission

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Date: 12/03/2026 09:34:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 2368744
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

buffy said:


I reckon there is more to this than is being made public.

Former ASIO boss says he was ‘surplus to requirements’ of antisemitism royal commission

Likely there is a back story.

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Date: 12/03/2026 10:32:38
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2368747
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

buffy said:


I reckon there is more to this than is being made public.

Former ASIO boss says he was ‘surplus to requirements’ of antisemitism royal commission

“And being grossly overpaid”
I think Diogenes has found his man.

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Date: 12/03/2026 12:43:39
From: dv
ID: 2368799
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Federal Yougov poll at 55-45 in Labor’s favour in the 2pp.

No ALP v ONP 2pp announced: I think the pollsters need to get used to asking that because we certainly appear to be headed to a three-cornered race.(Dr Kev Bonham’s estimate for the ALP v ONP 2pp from this poll is 55 – 45).

They ALSO didn’t ask about Libs and Nats separately, just “Coalition “, something which doesn’t exist any more. Yougov needs to contemporise … man!

Any the primary votes folded out

ALP 30
ONP 26
LNP 19
GRN 13
IND 5
OTH 7

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Date: 12/03/2026 13:08:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2368804
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Federal Yougov poll at 55-45 in Labor’s favour in the 2pp.

No ALP v ONP 2pp announced: I think the pollsters need to get used to asking that because we certainly appear to be headed to a three-cornered race.(Dr Kev Bonham’s estimate for the ALP v ONP 2pp from this poll is 55 – 45).

They ALSO didn’t ask about Libs and Nats separately, just “Coalition “, something which doesn’t exist any more. Yougov needs to contemporise … man!

Any the primary votes folded out

ALP 30
ONP 26
LNP 19
GRN 13
IND 5
OTH 7

I note that ONP + NLP are ahead of LAB + GRN.

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Date: 12/03/2026 13:14:23
From: buffy
ID: 2368811
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Federal Yougov poll at 55-45 in Labor’s favour in the 2pp.

No ALP v ONP 2pp announced: I think the pollsters need to get used to asking that because we certainly appear to be headed to a three-cornered race.(Dr Kev Bonham’s estimate for the ALP v ONP 2pp from this poll is 55 – 45).

They ALSO didn’t ask about Libs and Nats separately, just “Coalition “, something which doesn’t exist any more. Yougov needs to contemporise … man!

Any the primary votes folded out

ALP 30
ONP 26
LNP 19
GRN 13
IND 5
OTH 7

I note that ONP + NLP are ahead of LAB + GRN.

But can ONP and NLP stomach each other enough to work together? Both contain disaffected members of the other one.

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Date: 12/03/2026 13:37:06
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2368820
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

buffy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Federal Yougov poll at 55-45 in Labor’s favour in the 2pp.

No ALP v ONP 2pp announced: I think the pollsters need to get used to asking that because we certainly appear to be headed to a three-cornered race.(Dr Kev Bonham’s estimate for the ALP v ONP 2pp from this poll is 55 – 45).

They ALSO didn’t ask about Libs and Nats separately, just “Coalition “, something which doesn’t exist any more. Yougov needs to contemporise … man!

Any the primary votes folded out

ALP 30
ONP 26
LNP 19
GRN 13
IND 5
OTH 7

I note that ONP + NLP are ahead of LAB + GRN.

But can ONP and NLP stomach each other enough to work together? Both contain disaffected members of the other one.

Let’s hope not.

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Date: 12/03/2026 13:41:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2368822
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I note that ONP + NLP are ahead of LAB + GRN.

But can ONP and NLP stomach each other enough to work together? Both contain disaffected members of the other one.

Let’s hope not.

It’s a historical fact that ONP alone can barely stomach each other to work together.

The more MPs they have, the quicker they’ll lose them to in-fighting and defections.

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Date: 12/03/2026 13:48:40
From: Michael V
ID: 2368825
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

buffy said:

But can ONP and NLP stomach each other enough to work together? Both contain disaffected members of the other one.

Let’s hope not.

It’s a historical fact that ONP alone can barely stomach each other to work together.

The more MPs they have, the quicker they’ll lose them to in-fighting and defections.

^^

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Date: 12/03/2026 14:02:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2368826
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Let’s hope not.

It’s a historical fact that ONP alone can barely stomach each other to work together.

The more MPs they have, the quicker they’ll lose them to in-fighting and defections.

^^

they’ll work together enough to win and then fight over the spoils, look at the Iranian and American theocracies, do they agree, but who suffers from their corruption

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Date: 12/03/2026 14:09:02
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2368831
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 12/03/2026 14:13:25
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2368832
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spiny Norman said:



LOL

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Date: 12/03/2026 14:14:32
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2368834
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

As some people know, it’s now illegal to say, “from the river to the sea” here in banana land.
I wonder how Mr Plod would go with, “from the sea to the river” ?

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Date: 12/03/2026 14:22:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2368838
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

wait so does that mean if we can buy enough solar panels from some other country that we no longer burn any coal then the national party will be leaderless

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Date: 12/03/2026 14:38:09
From: Michael V
ID: 2368851
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spiny Norman said:



Ha!

:)

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Date: 12/03/2026 14:40:09
From: Michael V
ID: 2368852
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spiny Norman said:


As some people know, it’s now illegal to say, “from the river to the sea” here in banana land.
I wonder how Mr Plod would go with, “from the sea to the river” ?

I go out across the bar when I take my tinnie from the river to the sea.

I come in across the bar when I take my tinnie from the sea to the river.

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Date: 12/03/2026 14:44:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2368858
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

As some people know, it’s now illegal to say, “from the river to the sea” here in banana land.
I wonder how Mr Plod would go with, “from the sea to the river” ?

I go out across the bar when I take my tinnie from the river to the sea.

I come in across the bar when I take my tinnie from the sea to the river.

yeah the whole thing seems like over appropriation to us

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Date: 12/03/2026 14:48:59
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2368862
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

As some people know, it’s now illegal to say, “from the river to the sea” here in banana land.
I wonder how Mr Plod would go with, “from the sea to the river” ?

I go out across the bar when I take my tinnie from the river to the sea.

I come in across the bar when I take my tinnie from the sea to the river.

Troublemaker!! :)

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Date: 12/03/2026 15:08:39
From: Michael V
ID: 2368868
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spiny Norman said:


Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

As some people know, it’s now illegal to say, “from the river to the sea” here in banana land.
I wonder how Mr Plod would go with, “from the sea to the river” ?

I go out across the bar when I take my tinnie from the river to the sea.

I come in across the bar when I take my tinnie from the sea to the river.

Troublemaker!! :)

You caught me out…

:)

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Date: 12/03/2026 15:20:15
From: Woodie
ID: 2368870
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Talking of petty bureaucratic time wasting crap.

The trailer failed it’s “pink slip” (roadworthy) yesterday.

You know the “safety chain” that goes between the trailer and car tow bar?

The chain has to be AS (Australian Standard) compliant. It must have AS and the Standard Number stamped into it.

Nothing about the quality of the weld that holds the chain onto the trailer, hey what but
.🙄🙄🙄

No…. it is not April Fools Day.

FMD…. what will they come up with next???

The man passed it, with a “you’ll need to get that fixed”.

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Date: 12/03/2026 15:27:32
From: Woodie
ID: 2368875
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spiny Norman said:


As some people know, it’s now illegal to say, “from the river to the sea” here in banana land.
I wonder how Mr Plod would go with, “from the sea to the river” ?

I saw that on a T-shirt on the news. Why is that now a problem? I don’t understand. Has it always been a problem? Have I been living under a rock in Canada somewhere?

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Date: 12/03/2026 15:33:09
From: Michael V
ID: 2368880
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Woodie said:


Talking of petty bureaucratic time wasting crap.

The trailer failed it’s “pink slip” (roadworthy) yesterday.

You know the “safety chain” that goes between the trailer and car tow bar?

The chain has to be AS (Australian Standard) compliant. It must have AS and the Standard Number stamped into it.

Nothing about the quality of the weld that holds the chain onto the trailer, hey what but
.🙄🙄🙄

No…. it is not April Fools Day.

FMD…. what will they come up with next???

The man passed it, with a “you’ll need to get that fixed”.

Cheeses!

It was passed on the initial rego, some years back. Has some requirement changed in the interim? They rarely back-date these things.

1. I’d look it up.

2. I’d take it to another place next year.

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Date: 12/03/2026 16:03:51
From: Michael V
ID: 2368893
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Woodie said:


Spiny Norman said:

As some people know, it’s now illegal to say, “from the river to the sea” here in banana land.
I wonder how Mr Plod would go with, “from the sea to the river” ?

I saw that on a T-shirt on the news. Why is that now a problem? I don’t understand. Has it always been a problem? Have I been living under a rock in Canada somewhere?

It’s a problem because, well, now it is illegal to say that phrase in Qld.

Somehow it was used by some supporters of some Palestinian supporters group. I don’t know the background. But someone on the internet will. I’ll go search.

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Date: 12/03/2026 16:05:47
From: dv
ID: 2368894
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Spiny Norman said:

As some people know, it’s now illegal to say, “from the river to the sea” here in banana land.
I wonder how Mr Plod would go with, “from the sea to the river” ?

I saw that on a T-shirt on the news. Why is that now a problem? I don’t understand. Has it always been a problem? Have I been living under a rock in Canada somewhere?

It’s a problem because, well, now it is illegal to say that phrase in Qld.

Somehow it was used by some supporters of some Palestinian supporters group. I don’t know the background. But someone on the internet will. I’ll go search.

Look we’re all sick of Johnny Farnham but no need to make it illegal.

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Date: 12/03/2026 16:17:08
From: Michael V
ID: 2368896
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Spiny Norman said:

As some people know, it’s now illegal to say, “from the river to the sea” here in banana land.
I wonder how Mr Plod would go with, “from the sea to the river” ?

I saw that on a T-shirt on the news. Why is that now a problem? I don’t understand. Has it always been a problem? Have I been living under a rock in Canada somewhere?

It’s a problem because, well, now it is illegal to say that phrase in Qld.

Somehow it was used by some supporters of some Palestinian supporters group. I don’t know the background. But someone on the internet will. I’ll go search.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea

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Date: 12/03/2026 16:18:40
From: Michael V
ID: 2368899
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Michael V said:

Woodie said:

I saw that on a T-shirt on the news. Why is that now a problem? I don’t understand. Has it always been a problem? Have I been living under a rock in Canada somewhere?

It’s a problem because, well, now it is illegal to say that phrase in Qld.

Somehow it was used by some supporters of some Palestinian supporters group. I don’t know the background. But someone on the internet will. I’ll go search.

Look we’re all sick of Johnny Farnham but no need to make it illegal.

What’s Johnny Farnham got to do with it?

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Date: 12/03/2026 16:22:32
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2368900
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

It’s a problem because, well, now it is illegal to say that phrase in Qld.

Somehow it was used by some supporters of some Palestinian supporters group. I don’t know the background. But someone on the internet will. I’ll go search.

Look we’re all sick of Johnny Farnham but no need to make it illegal.

What’s Johnny Farnham got to do with it?

That’s Tina Turner….

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Date: 12/03/2026 16:26:08
From: furious
ID: 2368903
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

It’s a problem because, well, now it is illegal to say that phrase in Qld.

Somehow it was used by some supporters of some Palestinian supporters group. I don’t know the background. But someone on the internet will. I’ll go search.

Look we’re all sick of Johnny Farnham but no need to make it illegal.

What’s Johnny Farnham got to do with it?

Can’t believe I know this, but…Two Strong Hearts…

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Date: 12/03/2026 16:35:20
From: Michael V
ID: 2368906
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

Look we’re all sick of Johnny Farnham but no need to make it illegal.

What’s Johnny Farnham got to do with it?

That’s Tina Turner….

Uh-oh…

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Date: 12/03/2026 16:38:58
From: Michael V
ID: 2368908
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

furious said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

Look we’re all sick of Johnny Farnham but no need to make it illegal.

What’s Johnny Farnham got to do with it?

Can’t believe I know this, but…Two Strong Hearts…

OK, I sea.

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Date: 12/03/2026 18:04:24
From: dv
ID: 2368948
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

It’s a problem because, well, now it is illegal to say that phrase in Qld.

Somehow it was used by some supporters of some Palestinian supporters group. I don’t know the background. But someone on the internet will. I’ll go search.

Look we’re all sick of Johnny Farnham but no need to make it illegal.

What’s Johnny Farnham got to do with it?

For a couple of generations of Australians, that phrase is mainly associated with the 1988 hit song Two Strong Hearts by Johnny Farnham.

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Date: 12/03/2026 18:20:33
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2368958
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

Look we’re all sick of Johnny Farnham but no need to make it illegal.

What’s Johnny Farnham got to do with it?

For a couple of generations of Australians, that phrase is mainly associated with the 1988 hit song Two Strong Hearts by Johnny Farnham.

Sadie, the cleaning lady
With trusty scrubbing brush
and pail of water

Worked her poor old aching knee
From the river to the sea,
Providing at the same time
for her daughter

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Date: 12/03/2026 18:22:48
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2368959
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

Look we’re all sick of Johnny Farnham but no need to make it illegal.

What’s Johnny Farnham got to do with it?

For a couple of generations of Australians, that phrase is mainly associated with the 1988 hit song Two Strong Hearts by Johnny Farnham.

difference is Farnham sung, like a river to the sea.

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Date: 12/03/2026 18:35:09
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2368963
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Hey, Bill,

VSTOL

V is for Very

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a4P0YZZ_460sv.mp4

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Date: 12/03/2026 18:46:18
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2368966
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

captain_spalding said:


Hey, Bill,

VSTOL

V is for Very

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a4P0YZZ_460sv.mp4

It is indeedy!
Those Alaskan planes are amazing.

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Date: 12/03/2026 18:59:07
From: Michael V
ID: 2368970
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

Look we’re all sick of Johnny Farnham but no need to make it illegal.

What’s Johnny Farnham got to do with it?

For a couple of generations of Australians, that phrase is mainly associated with the 1988 hit song Two Strong Hearts by Johnny Farnham.

Sadie (the cleaning lady).

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Date: 12/03/2026 19:24:29
From: Michael V
ID: 2368978
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Hey, Bill,

VSTOL

V is for Very

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a4P0YZZ_460sv.mp4

It is indeedy!
Those Alaskan planes are amazing.

And take-off just a short on occasions.

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Date: 13/03/2026 00:15:54
From: dv
ID: 2369031
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

What’s Johnny Farnham got to do with it?

For a couple of generations of Australians, that phrase is mainly associated with the 1988 hit song Two Strong Hearts by Johnny Farnham.

Sadie, the cleaning lady
With trusty scrubbing brush
and pail of water

Worked her poor old aching knee
From the river to the sea,
Providing at the same time
for her daughter

The land of milk and honey and the bee, you and me

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Date: 13/03/2026 13:33:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2369176
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

communist LABOR shows classic lack of forethought

The energy minister has been asked if he’s concerned about the next few weeks if the conflict in the Middle East continues to disrupt oil supply. Chris Bowen say it’s an uncertain environment and that all Australians are concerned about the state of the world at the moment. Asked if he has the power to ration fuel, Bowen says he has various powers under the Fuel Emergency Act, but that they’re not being contemplated “at this point”.

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Date: 13/03/2026 14:50:17
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2369204
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 13/03/2026 14:54:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2369205
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


are they profiting from it

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Date: 13/03/2026 15:06:11
From: Cymek
ID: 2369209
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


If nothing else renewable shifts this sort of price / supply hostage type situation.

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Date: 13/03/2026 15:14:16
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2369215
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Cymek said:


Divine Angel said:


If nothing else renewable shifts this sort of price / supply hostage type situation.

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Date: 13/03/2026 15:43:45
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2369222
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The Aussie suburbs that overwhelmingly enjoy the benefits of CGT discount: ‘Give it back’

The representative of the electorate that gains the most benefit says Australia risks becoming ‘a country where your parents’ balance sheet matter more than ambition’.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/the-aussie-suburbs-that-overwhelmingly-enjoy-the-benefits-of-cgt-discount-give-it-back-213315372.html

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Date: 13/03/2026 16:14:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2369241
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


LOL

Harsh but true.

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Date: 13/03/2026 16:24:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2369250
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:


are they profiting from it

If nothing else renewable shifts this sort of price / supply hostage type situation.


LOL

Harsh but true.

yeah now that yous mention it we remember there was already enough crying about electricity prices after the jokers squandered decades with their genius back and forth about carbon creditaxes and all that faeces

Iran saving the world again¡

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Date: 13/03/2026 20:10:41
From: dv
ID: 2369387
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Been three weeks since we had a poll for the SA election, which is a week away now.

I can understand the pollsters saving their resources given that it’s obviously going to be a Labor Landslide but I’d still like to see something. I like numbers.

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Date: 13/03/2026 20:12:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2369389
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:

Been three weeks since we had a poll for the SA election, which is a week away now.

I can understand the pollsters saving their resources given that it’s obviously going to be a Labor Landslide but I’d still like to see something. I like numbers.

maybe all the ramped impatients will vote one nation

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Date: 13/03/2026 20:14:20
From: Michael V
ID: 2369390
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Been three weeks since we had a poll for the SA election, which is a week away now.

I can understand the pollsters saving their resources given that it’s obviously going to be a Labor Landslide but I’d still like to see something. I like numbers.

Here’s some: 37.26.37. I’m unsure what they mean, but they add up to 100.

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Date: 13/03/2026 20:14:39
From: dv
ID: 2369391
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


dv said:

Been three weeks since we had a poll for the SA election, which is a week away now.

I can understand the pollsters saving their resources given that it’s obviously going to be a Labor Landslide but I’d still like to see something. I like numbers.

Here’s some: 37.26.37. I’m unsure what they mean, but they add up to 100.

what’s that in metric

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Date: 13/03/2026 20:16:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2369393
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Been three weeks since we had a poll for the SA election, which is a week away now.

I can understand the pollsters saving their resources given that it’s obviously going to be a Labor Landslide but I’d still like to see something. I like numbers.

maybe all the ramped impatients will vote one nation

That might end up being a good thing; the rest of Australia might learn that ON couldn’t run a state, let alone a nation.

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Date: 13/03/2026 20:17:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2369395
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

Been three weeks since we had a poll for the SA election, which is a week away now.

I can understand the pollsters saving their resources given that it’s obviously going to be a Labor Landslide but I’d still like to see something. I like numbers.

Here’s some: 37.26.37. I’m unsure what they mean, but they add up to 100.

what’s that in metric

LOL

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Date: 14/03/2026 11:36:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2369524
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

On Tuesday, Defence Industries Minister Paul Papalia managed to use a question about the state’s shipbuilding industry to say it was “unfair” to have called Opposition Leader Basil Zempilas “as tough as a cream puff” previously. “Perhaps the leader of the opposition is more akin to a croissant,” he declared, to the raucous laughter of his colleagues. “What we are talking about here is a little bit flaky and brittle on the outside, puffed up and ultimately completely full of hot air!”

Questions about what was being done to make sure the state, and various industries, didn’t run out of fuel on Wednesday descended more into political point-scoring and shouting matches on both sides, rather than genuine policy debate. That’s despite the combined salaries of just the MPs in the chamber costing you and I some $3,660 each question time.

“I think we do all need to be a little bit careful about this line that somehow people are shocked by what takes place in question time,” he said.
“I mean, as a kid I used to watch the 7.30 Report, I used to see John Howard, I used to see Bob Hawke, I used to see Paul Keating put on incredible displays and I found it hugely motivating, entertaining and I loved the spirit of it.
“I know not everybody’s drawn to it, but it’s one of the reasons why people are drawn to and I think we have to be careful that we don’t take that right away.”

oh good

Maybe that’s because Question Time has morphed more into a form of stress relief for those entrusted with the thankless job of leading the state through seismic shifts in the global order.

right right we know they’re the best of us

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-14/wa-politicians-under-fire-appalling-question-time-antics/106451182

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Date: 14/03/2026 12:01:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2369532
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

LOL

You want to know why Kyle and Jackie O never worked in Melbourne? Why a $200 million contract predicated on radio success in the southern city is now in tatters and subject to fierce litigation? They just weren’t funny. They never made jokes. Real jokes. Clever, observant, well-phrased gags. Think about it. Did they ever make you really laugh? Out loud with something witty that didn’t rely on the “punchline” being an actual punch — a put-down of someone, somewhere? Usually a listener, often a woman?

I did not listen often, but when I heard Kyle and Jackie O’s most publicised exchanges, it was always shocking how savaging a caller or a texter — mocking them, humiliating them — was their version of fun. Find me the systemic examples if you can, but that’s just not the way successful Melbourne radio hosts roll. Kyle was vicious, and Jackie served women up to him for his sport like a kind of bogan Aunt Lydia. It was astonishing.

It’s a Sydney commercial radio reality that shocked me from the day I arrived there to broadcast on ABC radio 702: a presenter-audience relationship that seemed akin to a sub/dom dynamic. I couldn’t believe how rough the presenters were with their own audience — Alan Jones, John Laws — and I couldn’t believe that listeners came back and fronted up for more. It certainly was a very successful formula for Kyle and Jackie O.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-14/melbourne-sydney-kyle-and-jackie-o-show-radio/106436204

a lot of emdashes there though

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Date: 14/03/2026 12:22:52
From: Arts
ID: 2369540
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

LOL

You want to know why Kyle and Jackie O never worked in Melbourne? Why a $200 million contract predicated on radio success in the southern city is now in tatters and subject to fierce litigation? They just weren’t funny. They never made jokes. Real jokes. Clever, observant, well-phrased gags. Think about it. Did they ever make you really laugh? Out loud with something witty that didn’t rely on the “punchline” being an actual punch — a put-down of someone, somewhere? Usually a listener, often a woman?

I did not listen often, but when I heard Kyle and Jackie O’s most publicised exchanges, it was always shocking how savaging a caller or a texter — mocking them, humiliating them — was their version of fun. Find me the systemic examples if you can, but that’s just not the way successful Melbourne radio hosts roll. Kyle was vicious, and Jackie served women up to him for his sport like a kind of bogan Aunt Lydia. It was astonishing.

It’s a Sydney commercial radio reality that shocked me from the day I arrived there to broadcast on ABC radio 702: a presenter-audience relationship that seemed akin to a sub/dom dynamic. I couldn’t believe how rough the presenters were with their own audience — Alan Jones, John Laws — and I couldn’t believe that listeners came back and fronted up for more. It certainly was a very successful formula for Kyle and Jackie O.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-14/melbourne-sydney-kyle-and-jackie-o-show-radio/106436204

a lot of emdashes there though

I was at an AI discussion panel and one person mentioned that another indicator was the use of the Oxford comma – so apparently Oxford, AI, and I are AI.

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Date: 14/03/2026 13:33:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2369557
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Arts said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

You want to know why Kyle and Jackie O never worked in Melbourne? Why a $200 million contract predicated on radio success in the southern city is now in tatters and subject to fierce litigation? They just weren’t funny. They never made jokes. Real jokes. Clever, observant, well-phrased gags. Think about it. Did they ever make you really laugh? Out loud with something witty that didn’t rely on the “punchline” being an actual punch — a put-down of someone, somewhere? Usually a listener, often a woman?

I did not listen often, but when I heard Kyle and Jackie O’s most publicised exchanges, it was always shocking how savaging a caller or a texter — mocking them, humiliating them — was their version of fun. Find me the systemic examples if you can, but that’s just not the way successful Melbourne radio hosts roll. Kyle was vicious, and Jackie served women up to him for his sport like a kind of bogan Aunt Lydia. It was astonishing.

It’s a Sydney commercial radio reality that shocked me from the day I arrived there to broadcast on ABC radio 702: a presenter-audience relationship that seemed akin to a sub/dom dynamic. I couldn’t believe how rough the presenters were with their own audience — Alan Jones, John Laws — and I couldn’t believe that listeners came back and fronted up for more. It certainly was a very successful formula for Kyle and Jackie O.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-14/melbourne-sydney-kyle-and-jackie-o-show-radio/106436204

a lot of emdashes there though

I was at an AI discussion panel and one person mentioned that another indicator was the use of the Oxford comma – so apparently Oxford, AI, and I are AI.

interesting; we were inspired to sneak a peek at some archived articles we had from 2016; apparently there’s an average of 1 to 2 emdashes in each article even back then

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Date: 14/03/2026 13:45:41
From: Arts
ID: 2369564
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

Arts said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

You want to know why Kyle and Jackie O never worked in Melbourne? Why a $200 million contract predicated on radio success in the southern city is now in tatters and subject to fierce litigation? They just weren’t funny. They never made jokes. Real jokes. Clever, observant, well-phrased gags. Think about it. Did they ever make you really laugh? Out loud with something witty that didn’t rely on the “punchline” being an actual punch — a put-down of someone, somewhere? Usually a listener, often a woman?

I did not listen often, but when I heard Kyle and Jackie O’s most publicised exchanges, it was always shocking how savaging a caller or a texter — mocking them, humiliating them — was their version of fun. Find me the systemic examples if you can, but that’s just not the way successful Melbourne radio hosts roll. Kyle was vicious, and Jackie served women up to him for his sport like a kind of bogan Aunt Lydia. It was astonishing.

It’s a Sydney commercial radio reality that shocked me from the day I arrived there to broadcast on ABC radio 702: a presenter-audience relationship that seemed akin to a sub/dom dynamic. I couldn’t believe how rough the presenters were with their own audience — Alan Jones, John Laws — and I couldn’t believe that listeners came back and fronted up for more. It certainly was a very successful formula for Kyle and Jackie O.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-14/melbourne-sydney-kyle-and-jackie-o-show-radio/106436204

a lot of emdashes there though

I was at an AI discussion panel and one person mentioned that another indicator was the use of the Oxford comma – so apparently Oxford, AI, and I are AI.

interesting; we were inspired to sneak a peek at some archived articles we had from 2016; apparently there’s an average of 1 to 2 emdashes in each article even back then

yes, there is a certain element of desperation in the skill of humans being able to detect AI quickly and without running it through an AI detector. focus on uncommon, but still used, punctuation and go “SEE!!!!!!!”

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Date: 15/03/2026 14:01:50
From: party_pants
ID: 2369889
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

I wonder what the Australian government and defence forces are doing about acquiring drones and anti-drone weapons. Seems like this is a much underrated and neglected part of our defence arsenal. I know we have invested in some very high tech and expensive American drones, but do we have thousands of cheap drones like the Iranian ones? We should not wait for the US military-industrial complex to develop them so we can buy from the at inflated prices. Seems like something we should have the technical capacity to produce our own, I mean if Iran can do it whilst under sanctions we should have enough smarts to do it too.

Secondly, what is the strategic policy regarding energy independence? We need to phase out being reliant on foreign oil imports. Either replacement with batteries, or made from an alternative locally available source like coal or gas, which we have in abundance. The technology has been around for decades but is commercially unviable whenever the oil price is low. If we anticipate high oil prices to hang around for the long term we might need to build such new plant. I am not opposed to it being publicly owned and run, I don’t think private capital would take the risk, such things have been tried before but whenever the oil price crashes these plants close down. I would like to have some capacity in Australia as an insurance against oil price shocks.

If we could invest in R & D on developing algae farming for biomass to turn into synthetic fuels that would be good too. I know that’s a bit of a broken record I’m playing once again, but I’d love to have a go at it.

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Date: 15/03/2026 14:10:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2369890
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The ADF is rapidly expanding its drone capabilities, investing over $10 billion over the next decade in autonomous systems, including local manufacturing. Recent acquisitions include 300 domestically produced, small, tactical UAS from companies like AMSL Aero, Boresight, and Grabba Technologies,

Key Defense Drone Purchases

* Sovereign UAS Challenge: More than $1.5 million in small drones were purchased from Australian firms, bolstering local production and providing immediate tactical situational awareness. * Ghost Bat Program: A $1 billion investment for six Ghost Bat autonomous fighter jets, designed and built in Australia for the air force. * Ghost Shark Contract: A $1.7 billion contract with Anduril Australia to produce long-range underwater vessels in Sydney. * Small Uncrewed Aerial Systems (sUAS): Over $100 million in contracts with Quantum Systems (Vector) and Sypaq Systems (CorvoX) to provide drones for Army/RAAF. * Counter-Drone Technology: Australia is investing heavily in counter-drone lasers to defend against swarm attacks, with technology already sold to NATO allies.
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Date: 15/03/2026 14:12:16
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2369891
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

party_pants said:


I wonder what the Australian government and defence forces are doing about acquiring drones and anti-drone weapons. Seems like this is a much underrated and neglected part of our defence arsenal. I know we have invested in some very high tech and expensive American drones, but do we have thousands of cheap drones like the Iranian ones? We should not wait for the US military-industrial complex to develop them so we can buy from the at inflated prices. Seems like something we should have the technical capacity to produce our own, I mean if Iran can do it whilst under sanctions we should have enough smarts to do it too.

Secondly, what is the strategic policy regarding energy independence? We need to phase out being reliant on foreign oil imports. Either replacement with batteries, or made from an alternative locally available source like coal or gas, which we have in abundance. The technology has been around for decades but is commercially unviable whenever the oil price is low. If we anticipate high oil prices to hang around for the long term we might need to build such new plant. I am not opposed to it being publicly owned and run, I don’t think private capital would take the risk, such things have been tried before but whenever the oil price crashes these plants close down. I would like to have some capacity in Australia as an insurance against oil price shocks.

If we could invest in R & D on developing algae farming for biomass to turn into synthetic fuels that would be good too. I know that’s a bit of a broken record I’m playing once again, but I’d love to have a go at it.

You’re not going to run the trucking industry on batteries, we need to invest in biodeisel.

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Date: 15/03/2026 14:14:29
From: party_pants
ID: 2369892
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

captain_spalding said:

The ADF is rapidly expanding its drone capabilities, investing over $10 billion over the next decade in autonomous systems, including local manufacturing. Recent acquisitions include 300 domestically produced, small, tactical UAS from companies like AMSL Aero, Boresight, and Grabba Technologies,

Key Defense Drone Purchases

* Sovereign UAS Challenge: More than $1.5 million in small drones were purchased from Australian firms, bolstering local production and providing immediate tactical situational awareness. * Ghost Bat Program: A $1 billion investment for six Ghost Bat autonomous fighter jets, designed and built in Australia for the air force. * Ghost Shark Contract: A $1.7 billion contract with Anduril Australia to produce long-range underwater vessels in Sydney. * Small Uncrewed Aerial Systems (sUAS): Over $100 million in contracts with Quantum Systems (Vector) and Sypaq Systems (CorvoX) to provide drones for Army/RAAF. * Counter-Drone Technology: Australia is investing heavily in counter-drone lasers to defend against swarm attacks, with technology already sold to NATO allies.

Sounds promising. Much more than I was exoecting.

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Date: 15/03/2026 15:33:16
From: party_pants
ID: 2369903
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Peak Warming Man said:


party_pants said:

I wonder what the Australian government and defence forces are doing about acquiring drones and anti-drone weapons. Seems like this is a much underrated and neglected part of our defence arsenal. I know we have invested in some very high tech and expensive American drones, but do we have thousands of cheap drones like the Iranian ones? We should not wait for the US military-industrial complex to develop them so we can buy from the at inflated prices. Seems like something we should have the technical capacity to produce our own, I mean if Iran can do it whilst under sanctions we should have enough smarts to do it too.

Secondly, what is the strategic policy regarding energy independence? We need to phase out being reliant on foreign oil imports. Either replacement with batteries, or made from an alternative locally available source like coal or gas, which we have in abundance. The technology has been around for decades but is commercially unviable whenever the oil price is low. If we anticipate high oil prices to hang around for the long term we might need to build such new plant. I am not opposed to it being publicly owned and run, I don’t think private capital would take the risk, such things have been tried before but whenever the oil price crashes these plants close down. I would like to have some capacity in Australia as an insurance against oil price shocks.

If we could invest in R & D on developing algae farming for biomass to turn into synthetic fuels that would be good too. I know that’s a bit of a broken record I’m playing once again, but I’d love to have a go at it.

You’re not going to run the trucking industry on batteries, we need to invest in biodeisel.

Maybe we need to rethink fracking of shale deposits too. But not in the farming areas, maybe in the remoter parts of WA, NT and QLD. And FFS, let’s begin with a domestic energy reservation policy on any new fields opened up.

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Date: 15/03/2026 16:04:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2369915
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

party_pants said:


I wonder what the Australian government and defence forces are doing about acquiring drones and anti-drone weapons. Seems like this is a much underrated and neglected part of our defence arsenal. I know we have invested in some very high tech and expensive American drones, but do we have thousands of cheap drones like the Iranian ones? We should not wait for the US military-industrial complex to develop them so we can buy from the at inflated prices. Seems like something we should have the technical capacity to produce our own, I mean if Iran can do it whilst under sanctions we should have enough smarts to do it too.

Secondly, what is the strategic policy regarding energy independence? We need to phase out being reliant on foreign oil imports. Either replacement with batteries, or made from an alternative locally available source like coal or gas, which we have in abundance. The technology has been around for decades but is commercially unviable whenever the oil price is low. If we anticipate high oil prices to hang around for the long term we might need to build such new plant. I am not opposed to it being publicly owned and run, I don’t think private capital would take the risk, such things have been tried before but whenever the oil price crashes these plants close down. I would like to have some capacity in Australia as an insurance against oil price shocks.

If we could invest in R & D on developing algae farming for biomass to turn into synthetic fuels that would be good too. I know that’s a bit of a broken record I’m playing once again, but I’d love to have a go at it.

I did quite a bit of research on a coal-to-products (fuel, pharmaceuticals, fertilisers, plastics etc) about 20 years ago. They are massively expensive plants, IIRC around $35-50 billion each, way back then. Quality of feedstock doesn’t really matter much. South Africa had at least one plant back then, and they were the world experts. It used dirty coal in a physically isolated basin and, IIRC was subsidised. The methods of working are well understood, and one of the processes was originally developed by Germany prior to WWII.

The company I worked for had a lot of good quality coal in a nearly isolated basin, but it was far cheaper to build a railway line and export it for someone else to use. If I could have got the government to pay for the plant, it would have been viable. I don’t recall how many plants were necessary to make Australia energy independent. Note: it is possible to build a plant that uses natural gas as a feedstock. Perhaps we shouldn’t be exporting almost all of our natural gas.

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Date: 15/03/2026 16:06:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2369917
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Peak Warming Man said:


party_pants said:

I wonder what the Australian government and defence forces are doing about acquiring drones and anti-drone weapons. Seems like this is a much underrated and neglected part of our defence arsenal. I know we have invested in some very high tech and expensive American drones, but do we have thousands of cheap drones like the Iranian ones? We should not wait for the US military-industrial complex to develop them so we can buy from the at inflated prices. Seems like something we should have the technical capacity to produce our own, I mean if Iran can do it whilst under sanctions we should have enough smarts to do it too.

Secondly, what is the strategic policy regarding energy independence? We need to phase out being reliant on foreign oil imports. Either replacement with batteries, or made from an alternative locally available source like coal or gas, which we have in abundance. The technology has been around for decades but is commercially unviable whenever the oil price is low. If we anticipate high oil prices to hang around for the long term we might need to build such new plant. I am not opposed to it being publicly owned and run, I don’t think private capital would take the risk, such things have been tried before but whenever the oil price crashes these plants close down. I would like to have some capacity in Australia as an insurance against oil price shocks.

If we could invest in R & D on developing algae farming for biomass to turn into synthetic fuels that would be good too. I know that’s a bit of a broken record I’m playing once again, but I’d love to have a go at it.

You’re not going to run the trucking industry on batteries, we need to invest in biodeisel.

Trucks can be electrified, and their size means that they can carry lots of batteries to ensure big distances can be travelled.

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Date: 15/03/2026 16:39:51
From: dv
ID: 2369928
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

I would think that aviation, heavy trucking, and heavy plant in the construction industry are going to be the hardest nuts to crack in terms of shifting from fossil fuels in this country.

The mining industry has done a pretty good job getting on the path towards electrifying heavy plant. It’s easy to conceive of this task being largely complete by 2040 whereas the long distance trucking industry would have to make some serious adaptations to not be running on hydrocarbons, and it might be impossible for aviation.

There was a story last year about an outfit in NSW making heavy BEV trucks, so I suppose we’ll see how they take off.

(If people really think that it is necessary for Australia to be energy independent on all products then re-emphasising LNG is another option. )

In this context, the conversion of passenger vehicles to battery electric, and the development of comprehensive public transport schemes based on electrified surface transport, are low hanging fruit.

I’m no longer very optimistic about the biofuels industry, and coal-to-liquid is a worse emissions option even than diesel. There are various means of producing liquid hydrocarbons from atmospheric carbon dioxide and water, and these might play a larger role in the future but the price point of these technologies mean they aren’t likely to solve any problem over the next decade or so.

I have to admit I’m not as worried about national oil independence as others are. Petrol prices are up about 15%. The median expenditure on fuel last year was around $60, so for the median person it’s around a $9 per week increase, assuming no change in activity.

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Date: 15/03/2026 16:53:52
From: party_pants
ID: 2369937
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

I wonder what the Australian government and defence forces are doing about acquiring drones and anti-drone weapons. Seems like this is a much underrated and neglected part of our defence arsenal. I know we have invested in some very high tech and expensive American drones, but do we have thousands of cheap drones like the Iranian ones? We should not wait for the US military-industrial complex to develop them so we can buy from the at inflated prices. Seems like something we should have the technical capacity to produce our own, I mean if Iran can do it whilst under sanctions we should have enough smarts to do it too.

Secondly, what is the strategic policy regarding energy independence? We need to phase out being reliant on foreign oil imports. Either replacement with batteries, or made from an alternative locally available source like coal or gas, which we have in abundance. The technology has been around for decades but is commercially unviable whenever the oil price is low. If we anticipate high oil prices to hang around for the long term we might need to build such new plant. I am not opposed to it being publicly owned and run, I don’t think private capital would take the risk, such things have been tried before but whenever the oil price crashes these plants close down. I would like to have some capacity in Australia as an insurance against oil price shocks.

If we could invest in R & D on developing algae farming for biomass to turn into synthetic fuels that would be good too. I know that’s a bit of a broken record I’m playing once again, but I’d love to have a go at it.

I did quite a bit of research on a coal-to-products (fuel, pharmaceuticals, fertilisers, plastics etc) about 20 years ago. They are massively expensive plants, IIRC around $35-50 billion each, way back then. Quality of feedstock doesn’t really matter much. South Africa had at least one plant back then, and they were the world experts. It used dirty coal in a physically isolated basin and, IIRC was subsidised. The methods of working are well understood, and one of the processes was originally developed by Germany prior to WWII.

The company I worked for had a lot of good quality coal in a nearly isolated basin, but it was far cheaper to build a railway line and export it for someone else to use. If I could have got the government to pay for the plant, it would have been viable. I don’t recall how many plants were necessary to make Australia energy independent. Note: it is possible to build a plant that uses natural gas as a feedstock. Perhaps we shouldn’t be exporting almost all of our natural gas.

Thanks. That seems wildly expensive for a single plant. Is that because it is a one-off designed more or less from scratch? Maybe there might be some economies of scale in building a few of them to a standard design.

I know Germany in WW2 and South Africa during Apartheid resorted to coal-to-liquids when their supply of crude oil was cut off by war or sanctions.

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Date: 15/03/2026 16:58:58
From: dv
ID: 2369940
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Certainly a case to be made that petrol prices need to be higher in Australia, but that’s not something a lot of people want to hear. It’s so cheap that people just piss it away. Below at the top 10 selling passenger vehicles in Australia.

2025 Top 10 cars in Australia:

Ford Ranger ute – 56,555 (-9.6%) Toyota RAV4 medium SUV – 51,947 (-11.5%) Toyota HiLux ute – 51,297 (-4.1%) Isuzu D-Max ute – 26,839 (-11.1%) Ford Everest large SUV – 26,161 (-1.3%) Toyota LandCruiser Prado large SUV – 26,106 (+166.3%) Hyundai Kona small SUV – 22,769 (+31.1%) Mazda CX-5 medium SUV – 22,742 (-0.4%) Mitsubishi Outlander medium SUV – 22,459 (-18.7%) Tesla Model Y medium SUV – 22,239 (+4.6%)
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Date: 15/03/2026 17:03:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2369945
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

captain_spalding said:

The ADF is rapidly expanding its drone capabilities, investing over $10 billion over the next decade in autonomous systems, including local manufacturing. Recent acquisitions include 300 domestically produced, small, tactical UAS from companies like AMSL Aero, Boresight, and Grabba Technologies,

Key Defense Drone Purchases

* Sovereign UAS Challenge: More than $1.5 million in small drones were purchased from Australian firms, bolstering local production and providing immediate tactical situational awareness. * Ghost Bat Program: A $1 billion investment for six Ghost Bat autonomous fighter jets, designed and built in Australia for the air force. * Ghost Shark Contract: A $1.7 billion contract with Anduril Australia to produce long-range underwater vessels in Sydney. * Small Uncrewed Aerial Systems (sUAS): Over $100 million in contracts with Quantum Systems (Vector) and Sypaq Systems (CorvoX) to provide drones for Army/RAAF. * Counter-Drone Technology: Australia is investing heavily in counter-drone lasers to defend against swarm attacks, with technology already sold to NATO allies.
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Date: 15/03/2026 18:22:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2369992
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

party_pants said:

I wonder what the Australian government and defence forces are doing about acquiring drones and anti-drone weapons. Seems like this is a much underrated and neglected part of our defence arsenal. I know we have invested in some very high tech and expensive American drones, but do we have thousands of cheap drones like the Iranian ones? We should not wait for the US military-industrial complex to develop them so we can buy from the at inflated prices. Seems like something we should have the technical capacity to produce our own, I mean if Iran can do it whilst under sanctions we should have enough smarts to do it too.

Secondly, what is the strategic policy regarding energy independence? We need to phase out being reliant on foreign oil imports. Either replacement with batteries, or made from an alternative locally available source like coal or gas, which we have in abundance. The technology has been around for decades but is commercially unviable whenever the oil price is low. If we anticipate high oil prices to hang around for the long term we might need to build such new plant. I am not opposed to it being publicly owned and run, I don’t think private capital would take the risk, such things have been tried before but whenever the oil price crashes these plants close down. I would like to have some capacity in Australia as an insurance against oil price shocks.

If we could invest in R & D on developing algae farming for biomass to turn into synthetic fuels that would be good too. I know that’s a bit of a broken record I’m playing once again, but I’d love to have a go at it.

I did quite a bit of research on a coal-to-products (fuel, pharmaceuticals, fertilisers, plastics etc) about 20 years ago. They are massively expensive plants, IIRC around $35-50 billion each, way back then. Quality of feedstock doesn’t really matter much. South Africa had at least one plant back then, and they were the world experts. It used dirty coal in a physically isolated basin and, IIRC was subsidised. The methods of working are well understood, and one of the processes was originally developed by Germany prior to WWII.

The company I worked for had a lot of good quality coal in a nearly isolated basin, but it was far cheaper to build a railway line and export it for someone else to use. If I could have got the government to pay for the plant, it would have been viable. I don’t recall how many plants were necessary to make Australia energy independent. Note: it is possible to build a plant that uses natural gas as a feedstock. Perhaps we shouldn’t be exporting almost all of our natural gas.

Thanks. That seems wildly expensive for a single plant. Is that because it is a one-off designed more or less from scratch? Maybe there might be some economies of scale in building a few of them to a standard design.

I know Germany in WW2 and South Africa during Apartheid resorted to coal-to-liquids when their supply of crude oil was cut off by war or sanctions.

Each plant is a new one, designed backwards from output chemicals and volume, through processes, and eventually the front-end volume.

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Date: 15/03/2026 18:25:50
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2369993
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

I did quite a bit of research on a coal-to-products (fuel, pharmaceuticals, fertilisers, plastics etc) about 20 years ago. They are massively expensive plants, IIRC around $35-50 billion each, way back then. Quality of feedstock doesn’t really matter much. South Africa had at least one plant back then, and they were the world experts. It used dirty coal in a physically isolated basin and, IIRC was subsidised. The methods of working are well understood, and one of the processes was originally developed by Germany prior to WWII.

The company I worked for had a lot of good quality coal in a nearly isolated basin, but it was far cheaper to build a railway line and export it for someone else to use. If I could have got the government to pay for the plant, it would have been viable. I don’t recall how many plants were necessary to make Australia energy independent. Note: it is possible to build a plant that uses natural gas as a feedstock. Perhaps we shouldn’t be exporting almost all of our natural gas.

Thanks. That seems wildly expensive for a single plant. Is that because it is a one-off designed more or less from scratch? Maybe there might be some economies of scale in building a few of them to a standard design.

I know Germany in WW2 and South Africa during Apartheid resorted to coal-to-liquids when their supply of crude oil was cut off by war or sanctions.

Each plant is a new one, designed backwards from output chemicals and volume, through processes, and eventually the front-end volume.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer–Tropsch_process

From memory it was supposed to be quite expensive for the time, and would only be cost effective when fuel was about $2 per litre.
So yeah, last week or so is about right.

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Date: 15/03/2026 18:29:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2369996
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spiny Norman said:


Michael V said:

party_pants said:

Thanks. That seems wildly expensive for a single plant. Is that because it is a one-off designed more or less from scratch? Maybe there might be some economies of scale in building a few of them to a standard design.

I know Germany in WW2 and South Africa during Apartheid resorted to coal-to-liquids when their supply of crude oil was cut off by war or sanctions.

Each plant is a new one, designed backwards from output chemicals and volume, through processes, and eventually the front-end volume.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer–Tropsch_process

From memory it was supposed to be quite expensive for the time, and would only be cost effective when fuel was about $2 per litre.
So yeah, last week or so is about right.

Can’t do it. All the has been sold to China.

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Date: 15/03/2026 18:33:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2370000
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

Michael V said:

Each plant is a new one, designed backwards from output chemicals and volume, through processes, and eventually the front-end volume.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer–Tropsch_process

From memory it was supposed to be quite expensive for the time, and would only be cost effective when fuel was about $2 per litre.
So yeah, last week or so is about right.

Can’t do it. All the has been sold to China.

All the coal…

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Date: 15/03/2026 18:57:53
From: Michael V
ID: 2370007
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

I did quite a bit of research on a coal-to-products (fuel, pharmaceuticals, fertilisers, plastics etc) about 20 years ago. They are massively expensive plants, IIRC around $35-50 billion each, way back then. Quality of feedstock doesn’t really matter much. South Africa had at least one plant back then, and they were the world experts. It used dirty coal in a physically isolated basin and, IIRC was subsidised. The methods of working are well understood, and one of the processes was originally developed by Germany prior to WWII.

The company I worked for had a lot of good quality coal in a nearly isolated basin, but it was far cheaper to build a railway line and export it for someone else to use. If I could have got the government to pay for the plant, it would have been viable. I don’t recall how many plants were necessary to make Australia energy independent. Note: it is possible to build a plant that uses natural gas as a feedstock. Perhaps we shouldn’t be exporting almost all of our natural gas.

Thanks. That seems wildly expensive for a single plant. Is that because it is a one-off designed more or less from scratch? Maybe there might be some economies of scale in building a few of them to a standard design.

I know Germany in WW2 and South Africa during Apartheid resorted to coal-to-liquids when their supply of crude oil was cut off by war or sanctions.

Each plant is a new one, designed backwards from output chemicals and volume, through processes, and eventually the front-end volume.

Things have changed a lot in the last 20 years. There are a lot of new projects:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_liquefaction

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Date: 15/03/2026 19:27:31
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2370018
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Peak Warming Man said:


party_pants said:

I wonder what the Australian government and defence forces are doing about acquiring drones and anti-drone weapons. Seems like this is a much underrated and neglected part of our defence arsenal. I know we have invested in some very high tech and expensive American drones, but do we have thousands of cheap drones like the Iranian ones? We should not wait for the US military-industrial complex to develop them so we can buy from the at inflated prices. Seems like something we should have the technical capacity to produce our own, I mean if Iran can do it whilst under sanctions we should have enough smarts to do it too.

Secondly, what is the strategic policy regarding energy independence? We need to phase out being reliant on foreign oil imports. Either replacement with batteries, or made from an alternative locally available source like coal or gas, which we have in abundance. The technology has been around for decades but is commercially unviable whenever the oil price is low. If we anticipate high oil prices to hang around for the long term we might need to build such new plant. I am not opposed to it being publicly owned and run, I don’t think private capital would take the risk, such things have been tried before but whenever the oil price crashes these plants close down. I would like to have some capacity in Australia as an insurance against oil price shocks.

If we could invest in R & D on developing algae farming for biomass to turn into synthetic fuels that would be good too. I know that’s a bit of a broken record I’m playing once again, but I’d love to have a go at it.

You’re not going to run the trucking industry on batteries, we need to invest in biodeisel.

Ref?

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Date: 15/03/2026 20:29:33
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2370035
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Not exactly politics but I’m leaving it here anyway.

Background of the dude proposing Trump Tower on the GC

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-15/trump-tower-gold-coast-developer-david-young/106446292

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Date: 15/03/2026 21:54:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 2370045
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


Not exactly politics but I’m leaving it here anyway.

Background of the dude proposing Trump Tower on the GC

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-15/trump-tower-gold-coast-developer-david-young/106446292

He’s been at it for decades.

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Date: 15/03/2026 22:52:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2370054
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

Not exactly politics but I’m leaving it here anyway.

Background of the dude proposing Trump Tower on the GC

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-15/trump-tower-gold-coast-developer-david-young/106446292

He’s been at it for decades.

All mouth and no trousers.

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Date: 16/03/2026 00:45:51
From: dv
ID: 2370062
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


The Farrer by-election has been announced for 9 May.

As expected, the ALP will not contest the election. Liberals and Nationals are running separately. Before Ley got it, this was Tim Fischer’s old seat. This will be a four-way contest between Libs, Nats, ONP and the independent Michelle Milthorpe.

Candidates:

Liberal (not announced yet) National Brad Robertson One Nation David Farley Independent Michelle Milthorpe Family First Rebecca Scriven Greens (not announced yet) People First (not announced yet)

People First is Gerard Rennick’s outfit.

Haven’t heard that Shooters and Fishers are running, maybe they are sitting this one out.

Liberals have announced Raissa Butkowski, an Albury City councillor, to represent them in Farrer. The Greens have selected Richard Hendrie, who has a background in social work.

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Date: 16/03/2026 08:06:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370077
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

of all the things to play up though

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-14/australian-fuel-standards-eased-explainer-what-is-dirty-fuel/106450074

why sound so concerned about fuel quality when it could have been framed as a temporary improvement for 2 years and back to usual

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Date: 16/03/2026 08:08:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 2370078
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

of all the things to play up though

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-14/australian-fuel-standards-eased-explainer-what-is-dirty-fuel/106450074

why sound so concerned about fuel quality when it could have been framed as a temporary improvement for 2 years and back to usual

Poor fuel quality can be harmful to engines.

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Date: 16/03/2026 08:08:30
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2370079
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

of all the things to play up though

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-14/australian-fuel-standards-eased-explainer-what-is-dirty-fuel/106450074

why sound so concerned about fuel quality when it could have been framed as a temporary improvement for 2 years and back to usual

MIL could not stop complaining about it on the weekend. There’s no use presenting the facts, she always knows better.

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Date: 16/03/2026 08:12:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2370080
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


SCIENCE said:

of all the things to play up though

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-14/australian-fuel-standards-eased-explainer-what-is-dirty-fuel/106450074

why sound so concerned about fuel quality when it could have been framed as a temporary improvement for 2 years and back to usual

MIL could not stop complaining about it on the weekend. There’s no use presenting the facts, she always knows better.

Some people do nothing else but complain about what they thought they heard on the news.

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Date: 16/03/2026 08:22:58
From: Michael V
ID: 2370084
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

of all the things to play up though

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-14/australian-fuel-standards-eased-explainer-what-is-dirty-fuel/106450074

why sound so concerned about fuel quality when it could have been framed as a temporary improvement for 2 years and back to usual

Poor fuel quality can be harmful to engines.

It’s only back to the previous standard about sulphur content, which was updated just two years ago. It’s not like they are chucking sand in it.

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Date: 16/03/2026 08:24:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 2370085
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

of all the things to play up though

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-14/australian-fuel-standards-eased-explainer-what-is-dirty-fuel/106450074

why sound so concerned about fuel quality when it could have been framed as a temporary improvement for 2 years and back to usual

Poor fuel quality can be harmful to engines.

It’s only back to the previous standard about sulphur content, which was updated just two years ago. It’s not like they are chucking sand in it.

:) I know but people are easily led astray.

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Date: 16/03/2026 08:25:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370086
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

of all the things to play up though

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-14/australian-fuel-standards-eased-explainer-what-is-dirty-fuel/106450074

why sound so concerned about fuel quality when it could have been framed as a temporary improvement for 2 years and back to usual

Poor fuel quality can be harmful to engines.

It’s only back to the previous standard about sulphur content, which was updated just two years ago. It’s not like they are chucking sand in it.

we mean our vehicle(s) seemed to run all right before 2024 so we wondered why it was such a big deal

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Date: 16/03/2026 08:33:05
From: Michael V
ID: 2370092
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Poor fuel quality can be harmful to engines.

It’s only back to the previous standard about sulphur content, which was updated just two years ago. It’s not like they are chucking sand in it.

we mean our vehicle(s) seemed to run all right before 2024 so we wondered why it was such a big deal

Yeah the engines were running just fine. But the gummint needs to show us they are doing something about fuel supply. Otherwise many people will continue to panic, and panic buy.

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Date: 16/03/2026 10:25:38
From: dv
ID: 2370159
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DV4eXTSElja/?igsh=MWI5bHgzeHZwbzZsdA==

Hydrology of Qld

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Date: 16/03/2026 10:31:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 2370164
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


https://www.instagram.com/reel/DV4eXTSElja/?igsh=MWI5bHgzeHZwbzZsdA==

Hydrology of Qld

River to the sea?

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Date: 16/03/2026 11:19:06
From: Michael V
ID: 2370210
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


https://www.instagram.com/reel/DV4eXTSElja/?igsh=MWI5bHgzeHZwbzZsdA==

Hydrology of Qld

LOLOLOL

Point well made!

:)

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Date: 16/03/2026 13:00:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370287
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:

dv said:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DV4eXTSElja/?igsh=MWI5bHgzeHZwbzZsdA==

Hydrology of Qld

LOLOLOL

Point well made!

:)

seems a bit niche though or people would be putting farnsie on the radio a lot more in recent times

… actually …

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Date: 16/03/2026 15:36:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370378
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

not holding back anymore eh, what is this clickbait

The US has a convicted felon in the White House. Could SA have one in parliament?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-16/david-speirs-election-bid-post-drugs-charges/106450640

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Date: 16/03/2026 15:39:02
From: Cymek
ID: 2370380
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

not holding back anymore eh, what is this clickbait

The US has a convicted felon in the White House. Could SA have one in parliament?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-16/david-speirs-election-bid-post-drugs-charges/106450640

Perhaps we could create a party of disgraced Australian child sex offenders

The Pedo Party because morality doesn’t count for shit anymore

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Date: 16/03/2026 19:39:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370443
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

“To be very clear, there was no directive from the AFL to remove reference to the Jewish community in the script, and we’ve never suggested this was the case,” Pavlich said. “Plenty of the brave responders and also the community heroes were there, many … who aren’t Jewish. It was about acknowledging everyone that was out there.” The former Fremantle star apologised for the “oversight” and said the club remained supportive of the Jewish community. Pavlich said the speech was developed as part of a group process and was seen by the AFL, but that the final decision rested with him. “It went through many different edits and, in the end, I saw the speech, I obviously gave it, so I take responsibility for that,” he said. “It was about trying to be as inclusive as we could for many people affected … clearly, because we’re here today, that was an oversight that we got wrong. And we own that.”

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Date: 17/03/2026 07:38:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370539
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The Victorian government offered teachers a 17 per cent pay rise over four years in an attempt to head off a statewide strike next week. On Monday, the union was presented with a proposed 8 per cent pay rise for teachers and 4 per cent rise for education staff to come into effect in April, followed by a 3 per cent rise each year for the following three years. But the union had been pushing for a 35 per cent rise and said the offer did not address excessive workloads, unpaid overtime and staff shortages across the state.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-17/victorian-teacher-pay-offer-rejected-as-strike-looms/106462594

wait isn’t that 18% though

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Date: 17/03/2026 07:55:24
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2370542
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

The Victorian government offered teachers a 17 per cent pay rise over four years in an attempt to head off a statewide strike next week. On Monday, the union was presented with a proposed 8 per cent pay rise for teachers and 4 per cent rise for education staff to come into effect in April, followed by a 3 per cent rise each year for the following three years. But the union had been pushing for a 35 per cent rise and said the offer did not address excessive workloads, unpaid overtime and staff shortages across the state.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-17/victorian-teacher-pay-offer-rejected-as-strike-looms/106462594

wait isn’t that 18% though

It’s early and maths isn’t my strong point anyway but 8+9=17 unless I’ve missed something? Either way it’s not 35%.

I haven’t heard any outcome from the Qld teachers strikes, but the Qld TA Union offer has been accepted by the govt and will be certified in the coming weeks so that’s good news.

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Date: 17/03/2026 08:14:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370548
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

The Victorian government offered teachers a 17 per cent pay rise over four years in an attempt to head off a statewide strike next week. On Monday, the union was presented with a proposed 8 per cent pay rise for teachers and 4 per cent rise for education staff to come into effect in April, followed by a 3 per cent rise each year for the following three years. But the union had been pushing for a 35 per cent rise and said the offer did not address excessive workloads, unpaid overtime and staff shortages across the state.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-17/victorian-teacher-pay-offer-rejected-as-strike-looms/106462594

wait isn’t that 18% though

It’s early and maths isn’t my strong point anyway but 8+9=17 unless I’ve missed something? Either way it’s not 35%.

I haven’t heard any outcome from the Qld teachers strikes, but the Qld TA Union offer has been accepted by the govt and will be certified in the coming weeks so that’s good news.

fair it didn’t specify whether the offer was for compounding increases

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Date: 17/03/2026 08:20:33
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2370549
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

The Victorian government offered teachers a 17 per cent pay rise over four years in an attempt to head off a statewide strike next week. On Monday, the union was presented with a proposed 8 per cent pay rise for teachers and 4 per cent rise for education staff to come into effect in April, followed by a 3 per cent rise each year for the following three years. But the union had been pushing for a 35 per cent rise and said the offer did not address excessive workloads, unpaid overtime and staff shortages across the state.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-17/victorian-teacher-pay-offer-rejected-as-strike-looms/106462594

wait isn’t that 18% though

It’s early and maths isn’t my strong point anyway but 8+9=17 unless I’ve missed something? Either way it’s not 35%.

I haven’t heard any outcome from the Qld teachers strikes, but the Qld TA Union offer has been accepted by the govt and will be certified in the coming weeks so that’s good news.

fair it didn’t specify whether the offer was for compounding increases

It’s usually 3% of current, at least that’s how I understand it. So if 3% today is $1000 (for simplicity’s sake), it’s another $1000 next year and another $1000 the year after.

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Date: 17/03/2026 08:32:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370552
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

It’s early and maths isn’t my strong point anyway but 8+9=17 unless I’ve missed something? Either way it’s not 35%.

I haven’t heard any outcome from the Qld teachers strikes, but the Qld TA Union offer has been accepted by the govt and will be certified in the coming weeks so that’s good news.

fair it didn’t specify whether the offer was for compounding increases

It’s usually 3% of current, at least that’s how I understand it. So if 3% today is $1000 (for simplicity’s sake), it’s another $1000 next year and another $1000 the year after.

yeah we’ve never made shitty pay rise offers to teachers ourselves so damn that sounds like a cynical play

maybe the mathematics teachers had the reject vote

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Date: 17/03/2026 09:13:13
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2370560
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Carrick Ryan

For the past year, many of Washington’s traditional allies have dutifully trailed in Trump’s ominous shadow. Committed to what has been, for so many middle powers, their most important strategic partnership since World War II, but also acutely conscious of the illiberal and erratic tendencies of the man now determining America’s strategic direction.

It’s been an exercise in performative acquiescence while avoiding eye contact. A calculated decision to ride out the storm while insisting that our alliance was immutable, and hoping that calmer seas return again in 2029.

I have watched Australia’s Prime Minister, like many others, suppress his instinctive urge to denounce Trump’s insanity, his volatility, and his criminality, in deference to his obligations to pursue the pragmatic priorities of the nation he’s sworn to serve.

But this is the point where even the cold and unemotional principles of pragmatism align with the collective national conscience that implores us to decline Trump’s demand for help with thinly veiled contempt.

Putting aside the audacity to expect those he has shamelessly abused, alienated, and threatened for 14 months, to come and clean up a mess that he alone has caused, this would be a strategic mistake for any nation to commit their forces for this operation.

Not only will it create an intolerable risk of loss of life, but it will serve only to extend this conflict beyond the unceremonious retreat that Trump must be compelled to endure.

This is not about being righteous, I understand international relations enough to recognise the irrelevancy of righteousness when dictating foreign policy. This is about the national interest, and finding the courage to walk away from a toxic relationship when it’s become unhealthy… at least until our former friend decides what kind of country it wants to be.

Australia has followed the USA into every war since 1941, but this is a fork in the road where we must part ways.

May we meet again old friend.

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Date: 17/03/2026 11:46:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370584
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

wait

Angus Taylor has been asked if he supports Matt Canavan’s suggestion to allow regional and rural based public servants to work from home. The Nationals leader says he’ll push to allow flexible working arrangements to grow regional communities and encourage families to have more babies. The opposition leader says he’s a “big supporter” of work flexibility that work for the employer and employee. “I think these are things that should be worked out between employer and employee and I think there’s all sorts of ways you can make it good for both,” Taylor says.

we thought everyone had to be back in the office

what changed

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Date: 17/03/2026 11:47:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370585
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

also

Opposition Leader Angus Taylor agrees that Australia “needs to drill more” to meet Australia’s resource needs. He’s pointed to the Bass Strait as a source of oil and gas, and the Beetaloo Basin as areas Australia should take advantage of. “We need to see that drilling happening at pace. This is a government that’s made it very hard for resource companies to get the approvals they need to make the investments,” Taylor says. He says the government should do what it takes to get fuel to regional areas. Taylor says the government should do “whatever is required” to move fuel to areas with fuel scarcity, but hasn’t said what they should do.

fuck off

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Date: 17/03/2026 11:51:06
From: Cymek
ID: 2370588
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

wait

Angus Taylor has been asked if he supports Matt Canavan’s suggestion to allow regional and rural based public servants to work from home. The Nationals leader says he’ll push to allow flexible working arrangements to grow regional communities and encourage families to have more babies. The opposition leader says he’s a “big supporter” of work flexibility that work for the employer and employee. “I think these are things that should be worked out between employer and employee and I think there’s all sorts of ways you can make it good for both,” Taylor says.

we thought everyone had to be back in the office

what changed

If you get your days work done location doesn’t really matter
As long as the work load on those in the office isn’t overly compensating.

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Date: 17/03/2026 11:53:24
From: Cymek
ID: 2370589
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

also

Opposition Leader Angus Taylor agrees that Australia “needs to drill more” to meet Australia’s resource needs. He’s pointed to the Bass Strait as a source of oil and gas, and the Beetaloo Basin as areas Australia should take advantage of. “We need to see that drilling happening at pace. This is a government that’s made it very hard for resource companies to get the approvals they need to make the investments,” Taylor says. He says the government should do what it takes to get fuel to regional areas. Taylor says the government should do “whatever is required” to move fuel to areas with fuel scarcity, but hasn’t said what they should do.

fuck off

This is a government that’s made it very hard for resource companies to get the approvals they need to make the investments,

The bribes aren’t working anymore and that’s not on.
If I can buy a ivory back scratcher then the resource companies can spoil wilderness and the environment, all they like

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Date: 17/03/2026 12:10:41
From: Michael V
ID: 2370590
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

also

Opposition Leader Angus Taylor agrees that Australia “needs to drill more” to meet Australia’s resource needs. He’s pointed to the Bass Strait as a source of oil and gas, and the Beetaloo Basin as areas Australia should take advantage of. “We need to see that drilling happening at pace. This is a government that’s made it very hard for resource companies to get the approvals they need to make the investments,” Taylor says. He says the government should do what it takes to get fuel to regional areas. Taylor says the government should do “whatever is required” to move fuel to areas with fuel scarcity, but hasn’t said what they should do.

fuck off

Drill baby drill.

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Date: 17/03/2026 12:35:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 2370596
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

also

Opposition Leader Angus Taylor agrees that Australia “needs to drill more” to meet Australia’s resource needs. He’s pointed to the Bass Strait as a source of oil and gas, and the Beetaloo Basin as areas Australia should take advantage of. “We need to see that drilling happening at pace. This is a government that’s made it very hard for resource companies to get the approvals they need to make the investments,” Taylor says. He says the government should do what it takes to get fuel to regional areas. Taylor says the government should do “whatever is required” to move fuel to areas with fuel scarcity, but hasn’t said what they should do.

fuck off

Wish he would.

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Date: 18/03/2026 09:33:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370908
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

pretty sure there’s a fkn simple solution to this involving photons and phonons and the flow of charges and lithiums andor sodiums

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-18/rising-petrol-prices-raise-concerns-mobile-preschool/106446818

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Date: 18/03/2026 09:38:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370911
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

look at these shenanigans, leasing strategic ports to some other country, giving away national sovereignty to authoritarian international rules-based law and order breaking human rights violating police states

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-17/nt-usa-becoming-dominant-military-force-northern-territory-aspi/106460770

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Date: 18/03/2026 09:40:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 2370914
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

look at these shenanigans, leasing strategic ports to some other country, giving away national sovereignty to authoritarian international rules-based law and order breaking human rights violating police states

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-17/nt-usa-becoming-dominant-military-force-northern-territory-aspi/106460770

The NT has been a thorn in the side ever since not becoming a state.

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Date: 18/03/2026 09:42:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2370919
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

look at these shenanigans, leasing strategic ports to some other country, giving away national sovereignty to authoritarian international rules-based law and order breaking human rights violating police states

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-17/nt-usa-becoming-dominant-military-force-northern-territory-aspi/106460770

The NT has been a thorn in the side ever since not becoming a state.

guess they could just change the name to the InterNational Territory and all good

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Date: 18/03/2026 10:47:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 2370943
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

What I don’t coomprehend is why the ABC is telling me that rising costs of living is turning the people of SA towards One Nation? How on earth could anyone expect Pauline to have the capacity to solve these problems?

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Date: 18/03/2026 10:52:22
From: Cymek
ID: 2370946
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


What I don’t coomprehend is why the ABC is telling me that rising costs of living is turning the people of SA towards One Nation? How on earth could anyone expect Pauline to have the capacity to solve these problems?

She tells everyone who to blame as she simple minded.
The fact the entire world is a huge mess and most people including our politicians have little control over it is irrelevant

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Date: 18/03/2026 11:26:15
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2370950
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


What I don’t coomprehend is why the ABC is telling me that rising costs of living is turning the people of SA towards One Nation? How on earth could anyone expect Pauline to have the capacity to solve these problems?

Because she isn’t one of the big two parties, and as everyone knows, everything is the fault of the big two parties so anyone else has to be better.

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Date: 18/03/2026 11:34:06
From: Cymek
ID: 2370951
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

What I don’t coomprehend is why the ABC is telling me that rising costs of living is turning the people of SA towards One Nation? How on earth could anyone expect Pauline to have the capacity to solve these problems?

Because she isn’t one of the big two parties, and as everyone knows, everything is the fault of the big two parties so anyone else has to be better.

Even if she said something about fish and chips shops they are doing it tough as well

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Date: 18/03/2026 11:37:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2370953
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


What I don’t coomprehend is why the ABC is telling me that rising costs of living is turning the people of SA towards One Nation? How on earth could anyone expect Pauline to have the capacity to solve these problems?

Some people…

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Date: 18/03/2026 12:21:36
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2370959
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


What I don’t coomprehend is why the ABC is telling me that rising costs of living is turning the people of SA towards One Nation? How on earth could anyone expect Pauline to have the capacity to solve these problems?

She’s parroting the line that it is all the fault of high migration which is also a Coalition talking point so the less informed might want to take a chance on them to solve the problem.

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Date: 18/03/2026 14:56:53
From: dv
ID: 2371006
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

I mean keep a lid on it. Conservatives are turning from Liberal to ONP. They are going from a party they know doesn’t haveeconomic solutions to one that they merely suspect has no economic solutions.

Labor is still kicking the dust off both of them. 60 – 40 versus Libs, 59-41 versus ONP. (This week’s Fox and Hedgehog poll, n = 1008)
Sensibly, unlike SOME polling houses I could mention, F&H do a 3PP as standard now, which gave 52 ALP, 26 ONP, 22 Lib.

In the primary polling:

Labor 38%
ONP 21%
Libs 18%
Green 11%

Despite all this I would think that the Libs will still end up as the official Opposition. In the regional seats and outer Adelaide, where ALP and Green preferences will determine whether the seat goes to Libs or ONP, I assume that most ALP and Green voters will preference Libs above ONP.

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Date: 18/03/2026 15:02:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2371008
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


I mean keep a lid on it. Conservatives are turning from Liberal to ONP. They are going from a party they know doesn’t haveeconomic solutions to one that they merely suspect has no economic solutions.

Labor is still kicking the dust off both of them. 60 – 40 versus Libs, 59-41 versus ONP. (This week’s Fox and Hedgehog poll, n = 1008)
Sensibly, unlike SOME polling houses I could mention, F&H do a 3PP as standard now, which gave 52 ALP, 26 ONP, 22 Lib.

In the primary polling:

Labor 38%
ONP 21%
Libs 18%
Green 11%

Despite all this I would think that the Libs will still end up as the official Opposition. In the regional seats and outer Adelaide, where ALP and Green preferences will determine whether the seat goes to Libs or ONP, I assume that most ALP and Green voters will preference Libs above ONP.

Pretty much a nightmare situation for the Libs :)

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Date: 18/03/2026 15:11:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2371012
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

I mean keep a lid on it. Conservatives are turning from Liberal to ONP. They are going from a party they know doesn’t haveeconomic solutions to one that they merely suspect has no economic solutions.

Labor is still kicking the dust off both of them. 60 – 40 versus Libs, 59-41 versus ONP. (This week’s Fox and Hedgehog poll, n = 1008)
Sensibly, unlike SOME polling houses I could mention, F&H do a 3PP as standard now, which gave 52 ALP, 26 ONP, 22 Lib.

In the primary polling:

Labor 38%
ONP 21%
Libs 18%
Green 11%

Despite all this I would think that the Libs will still end up as the official Opposition. In the regional seats and outer Adelaide, where ALP and Green preferences will determine whether the seat goes to Libs or ONP, I assume that most ALP and Green voters will preference Libs above ONP.

Pretty much a nightmare situation for the Libs :)

sure though we don’t exactly feel comfortable with 41% support for fascists regardless

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Date: 18/03/2026 18:45:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 2371080
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 19/03/2026 10:04:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2371234
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

oh hey up until tomorrow we were all celebrating capitalism but suddenly it’s concerning that playing capitalism isn’t illegal

Drivers fed up with massive price spikes at the bowser are being warned not to expect a wave of fuel company prosecutions over allegations of price gouging. Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will hold a national cabinet meeting of premiers and chief ministers today to discuss fuel shortages in regional communities and is expected to float the idea of a supply chain tsar. He has also warned fuel retailers the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) “will take action” against service stations that are overcharging. The ACCC called an emergency meeting with the industry yesterday asking it to justify its pricing. But experts say price gouging in the fuel sector isn’t illegal and successfully prosecuting companies for being misleading or acting in concert to raise prices — known as colluding — is rare.

how dare suppliers match prices to demanders

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-19/petrol-price-gouging-cost-of-living-pressure-oil-prices-iran-war/106467554

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Date: 19/03/2026 10:10:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2371236
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

LOL

South Australia’s police commissioner is warning fuel retailers that police could stop investigating petrol drive-offs unless service stations urgently implement pre-paid pumps, after a surge in thefts. “This takes police away from other responsibilities that we could be attending to, so we are calling on the retail fuel industry to take positive steps to prevent this virtually overnight by implementing pre-paid, which is something they have within their capacity to do,” he said. But industry bodies have hit back at the idea, with one describing it as “completely irresponsible” and saying it was tantamount to a “green light to fuel theft”.

activist communist police

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-19/petrol-drive-off-surge-prompts-police-warning-to-retailers/106471400

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Date: 19/03/2026 16:31:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2371344
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The Victorian city of Ballarat has experienced its second alleged Islamophobic attack in the space of a week, after a man hurled abuse at female staff at a pharmacy. It comes after a man gatecrashed a Muslim Iftar dinner on March 8, allegedly screaming death threats to guests and children and physically attacking community members. Police are yet to lay charges regarding either incident.

well that’s right why should they, australians have a right to defend themselves from invasion by terrorists

and clearly this gentleman is a protected demographic so they should definitely consider charges, as in consider them dropped

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-19/female-workers-targeted-in-alleged-islamophobic-attack-/106472090

oh right maybe they mean charges against these terrorists who are unlawfully restraining a good upstanding member of the community, give them the death penalty

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Date: 20/03/2026 09:39:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2371550
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

“with friends like these who needs enemies”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-20/we-just-found-out-where-australias-red-line-is-with-donald-trump/106475662

“anyone who gets another free pass of course”

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Date: 20/03/2026 10:24:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2371554
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

LOL

the government is seeking advice on whether to impose the tax in the May budget to collect some of the windfall profits gas companies are making during the Middle East war

that’s communist LABOR’s solution to everything isn’t it, more new tax

wait this wouldn’t even be a question if they’d taxed carbon releases when they had a chance back

excuse us

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Date: 20/03/2026 14:59:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2371654
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

thank fuck for adults in the room

In a separate statement, the Lebanese Muslim Association wrote that Mr Albanese was welcome at the prayers and that they would “continue to open” their doors. “We understand emotions are high, particularly given the ongoing suffering in Gaza and the devastation in Lebanon. These are not distant issues for our community,” it read. “But we also need to be clear. Choosing to engage with the elected leadership of this country is not a betrayal of those concerns. It is how we give them a voice.”

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Date: 20/03/2026 18:38:52
From: kii
ID: 2371734
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

From the River to the Sea.

Raid in Brisbane.

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Date: 20/03/2026 20:28:51
From: dv
ID: 2371784
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

I looked up Aoi Baxter on youtube to get an idea about how he pronounces his name. It did not help.

https://youtu.be/bKhKN_6u2do?si=Ijm7WUkdMOVSb2r7

https://youtu.be/9y67xqpxR7w?si=wVmGDSCHPiAAY62J

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Date: 21/03/2026 17:47:22
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2372063
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

There is Furious, and here it is.

No need to thank me.

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Date: 21/03/2026 18:02:26
From: buffy
ID: 2372073
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Looks like there were some difficulties with the electronic rolls in SA.

Link

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Date: 21/03/2026 18:32:42
From: dv
ID: 2372094
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Expecting a WA 2021 -style landslide so the main point of interest will be how ONP does.

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Date: 21/03/2026 18:44:22
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2372098
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

>>Australia’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was called a “putrid dog” and a “genocide supporter” before being chased out of the country’s largest mosque on Friday (20 March).

Well he must be doing something right.

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Date: 21/03/2026 18:46:04
From: buffy
ID: 2372100
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Peak Warming Man said:


>>Australia’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was called a “putrid dog” and a “genocide supporter” before being chased out of the country’s largest mosque on Friday (20 March).

Well he must be doing something right.

“chased out”?

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Date: 21/03/2026 18:53:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372102
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Expecting a WA 2021 -style landslide so the main point of interest will be how ONP does.

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Date: 21/03/2026 18:53:36
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2372103
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

>>Australia’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was called a “putrid dog” and a “genocide supporter” before being chased out of the country’s largest mosque on Friday (20 March).

Well he must be doing something right.

“chased out”?

quote is from FOX

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tense-moment-anthony-albanese-is-forced-to-leave-mosque/ar-AA1Z1qH8

Link

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Date: 21/03/2026 18:58:10
From: buffy
ID: 2372106
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

>>Australia’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was called a “putrid dog” and a “genocide supporter” before being chased out of the country’s largest mosque on Friday (20 March).

Well he must be doing something right.

“chased out”?

quote is from FOX

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tense-moment-anthony-albanese-is-forced-to-leave-mosque/ar-AA1Z1qH8

Link

He was heckled. And the heckler was removed.

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Date: 21/03/2026 19:12:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 2372115
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 21/03/2026 19:26:45
From: ruby
ID: 2372120
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:



That’s probably a good thing to be barred. Such a whiny looking bunch. And wino looking

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Date: 21/03/2026 19:27:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2372122
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

ruby said:


roughbarked said:


That’s probably a good thing to be barred. Such a whiny looking bunch. And wino looking


Ha!

:)

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Date: 21/03/2026 19:29:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372123
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

ruby said:


roughbarked said:


That’s probably a good thing to be barred. Such a whiny looking bunch. And wino looking


Lifetime of moaning and misery written on that lady’s face. And the weirdo behind her.

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Date: 21/03/2026 19:34:56
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2372125
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

buffy said:


Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

“chased out”?

quote is from FOX

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tense-moment-anthony-albanese-is-forced-to-leave-mosque/ar-AA1Z1qH8

Link

He was heckled. And the heckler was removed.

They don’t like pork I guess…

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Date: 21/03/2026 19:38:51
From: Woodie
ID: 2372126
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

>>Australia’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was called a “putrid dog” and a “genocide supporter” before being chased out of the country’s largest mosque on Friday (20 March).

Well he must be doing something right.

“chased out”?

quote is from FOX

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tense-moment-anthony-albanese-is-forced-to-leave-mosque/ar-AA1Z1qH8

Link

This is all I can find:

‘How dare you come here,’ Mukhlis Mah, a Stand4Palestine organiser, said before he was escorted out of the mosque.”

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Date: 21/03/2026 19:44:17
From: Woodie
ID: 2372127
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

BREAKING NEWS:

FIRST FIGURES REORTED IN SA ELECTION. – ABC

I’m rivetted!!!

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Date: 21/03/2026 19:46:29
From: Woodie
ID: 2372128
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Woodie said:


BREAKING NEWS:

FIRST FIGURES REORTED IN SA ELECTION. – ABC

I’m rivetted!!!

switches back to the footy

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Date: 21/03/2026 19:54:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2372129
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Woodie said:


BREAKING NEWS:

FIRST FIGURES REORTED IN SA ELECTION. – ABC

I’m rivetted!!!

The Tin Man! No heart?

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Date: 21/03/2026 20:04:07
From: Woodie
ID: 2372132
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

BREAKING NEWS:

FIRST FIGURES REORTED IN SA ELECTION. – ABC

I’m rivetted!!!

The Tin Man! No heart?

It’s only the rivets that are holding this old rusted body of mine together!!

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Date: 21/03/2026 20:05:55
From: Michael V
ID: 2372134
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Woodie said:

BREAKING NEWS:

FIRST FIGURES REORTED IN SA ELECTION. – ABC

I’m rivetted!!!

The Tin Man! No heart?

It’s only the rivets that are holding this old rusted body of mine together!!

Ha!

:)

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Date: 21/03/2026 20:13:21
From: dv
ID: 2372137
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

All three Independents in the SA upper house rn are people who left parties while in office in 2025: Sarah Game formerly of ONP, Jing Lee formerly of Liberals, Tammy Franks formerly of the Greens.

Early doors but if current counting holds we’d expect ONP to pick up 3 upper house seats,

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Date: 21/03/2026 20:19:30
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2372139
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Woodie said:


Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

“chased out”?

quote is from FOX

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tense-moment-anthony-albanese-is-forced-to-leave-mosque/ar-AA1Z1qH8

Link

This is all I can find:

‘How dare you come here,’ Mukhlis Mah, a Stand4Palestine organiser, said before he was escorted out of the mosque.”


Albosqueal to add Boos to hate speech laws.

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Date: 21/03/2026 20:20:28
From: dv
ID: 2372140
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The ABC have already given 4 seats as won to the Libs so it’s not going to be a complete blowout.

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Date: 21/03/2026 20:31:19
From: ruby
ID: 2372142
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Gina would be happy with her latest investment

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Date: 21/03/2026 20:36:32
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2372145
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


The ABC have already given 4 seats as won to the Libs so it’s not going to be a complete blowout.

Seems unsurprising given age of film.

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Date: 21/03/2026 20:37:49
From: dv
ID: 2372146
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

poikilotherm said:


dv said:

The ABC have already given 4 seats as won to the Libs so it’s not going to be a complete blowout.

Seems unsurprising given age of film.

uh … typo?

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Date: 21/03/2026 20:40:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372148
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


poikilotherm said:

dv said:

The ABC have already given 4 seats as won to the Libs so it’s not going to be a complete blowout.

Seems unsurprising given age of film.

uh … typo?

Wrong thread I suspect.

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Date: 21/03/2026 20:59:29
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2372152
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


poikilotherm said:

dv said:

The ABC have already given 4 seats as won to the Libs so it’s not going to be a complete blowout.

Seems unsurprising given age of film.

uh … typo?

Wrong thread I guess.

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Date: 21/03/2026 21:01:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2372153
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

ruby said:


Gina would be happy with her latest investment

The fairest elections that money can buy.

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Date: 21/03/2026 21:06:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2372154
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

poikilotherm said:


Woodie said:

Bogsnorkler said:

quote is from FOX

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tense-moment-anthony-albanese-is-forced-to-leave-mosque/ar-AA1Z1qH8

Link

This is all I can find:

‘How dare you come here,’ Mukhlis Mah, a Stand4Palestine organiser, said before he was escorted out of the mosque.”


Albosqueal to add Boos to hate speech laws.

LOL, sad.

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Date: 21/03/2026 21:10:00
From: dv
ID: 2372155
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Some divisions that appear to be pick ups for Laborinclude:

Colton
Hartley
Ngadjuri
Heysen
Unley
Morialta

Finniss

—-

Plenty of uncertainty yet but they should end up with something like 8 seats?

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Date: 21/03/2026 21:13:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372156
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Looks like the easiest and breeziest of Labor wins since the WA record performance.

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Date: 21/03/2026 21:14:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372157
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Shame that diddly doesn’t peep in any more.

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Date: 21/03/2026 21:20:40
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2372158
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Peak Warming Man said:


>>Australia’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was called a “putrid dog” and a “genocide supporter” before being chased out of the country’s largest mosque on Friday (20 March).

Well he must be doing something right.

I love it when religious people make fun of religious people.

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Date: 21/03/2026 21:32:47
From: kii
ID: 2372160
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


Shame that diddly doesn’t peep in any more.

Lol…what?
So he could say one thing, then argue about it, then end up saying he agreed with a different point of view as if that was his original position?

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Date: 21/03/2026 21:53:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372166
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

My mum (a stalwart Labor Party member) would have been delighted with scoreboards like this :)

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Date: 21/03/2026 22:12:22
From: dv
ID: 2372170
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Pauline Hanson is giving a speech, she suggest that a lot of the potentially informal votes that have been set aside for scrutiny will end up going to One Nation.

Make of that what you will.

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Date: 21/03/2026 22:25:54
From: dv
ID: 2372172
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

“Candidates in two separate seats in the South Australia state election have complained that One Nation volunteers are writing in preferences on how-to-vote cards, despite the party’s approved cards not including any preferences beyond 1 for One Nation.

According to the Electoral Commission of South Australia, distributing a how-to-vote card not substantially the same as the one lodged with it carries a fine of up to $5,000”

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Date: 21/03/2026 22:30:13
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2372173
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


“Candidates in two separate seats in the South Australia state election have complained that One Nation volunteers are writing in preferences on how-to-vote cards, despite the party’s approved cards not including any preferences beyond 1 for One Nation.

According to the Electoral Commission of South Australia, distributing a how-to-vote card not substantially the same as the one lodged with it carries a fine of up to $5,000”

this, and your previous post, show the level of nous in the PHON Party.

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Date: 21/03/2026 22:41:02
From: Kingy
ID: 2372174
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Pauline Hanson is giving a speech, she suggest that a lot of the potentially informal votes that have been set aside for scrutiny will end up going to One Nation.

Make of that what you will.

Pauline Hanson supporters are angered that voters have drawn a dick and balls on the voting slip, and it’s still not recorded as a vote for the dickhead party.

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Date: 21/03/2026 22:45:03
From: Woodie
ID: 2372175
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

A lesson for parts of the world, win or lose, on how to conduct a civil, courteous and democratic election.

…… and not an AK47 in sight.

We should be proud of ourselves.

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Date: 21/03/2026 22:51:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372178
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Woodie said:


A lesson for parts of the world, win or lose, on how to conduct a civil, courteous and democratic election.

…… and not an AK47 in sight.

We should be proud of ourselves.

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Date: 21/03/2026 22:57:45
From: dv
ID: 2372181
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Woodie said:


A lesson for parts of the world, win or lose, on how to conduct a civil, courteous and democratic election.

…… and not an AK47 in sight.

We should be proud of ourselves.

Quite, quite

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Date: 21/03/2026 23:02:32
From: Michael V
ID: 2372182
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Kingy said:


dv said:

Pauline Hanson is giving a speech, she suggest that a lot of the potentially informal votes that have been set aside for scrutiny will end up going to One Nation.

Make of that what you will.

Pauline Hanson supporters are angered that voters have drawn a dick and balls on the voting slip, and it’s still not recorded as a vote for the dickhead party.

LOL

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Date: 21/03/2026 23:02:55
From: Michael V
ID: 2372183
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Woodie said:


A lesson for parts of the world, win or lose, on how to conduct a civil, courteous and democratic election.

…… and not an AK47 in sight.

We should be proud of ourselves.

Probably.

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Date: 21/03/2026 23:12:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372186
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

ABC chief elections analyst Casey Briggs has just outlined the magnitude of the drop in the Liberal vote.

“I’ve got about 15 seats where the Liberal Party is on a single-digit number. Elizabeth, as well as Port Adelaide, Taylor, Croydon, the Premier’s seat,” he said.

“We’ve got Playford, West Torrens, Black, we’ve seen Florey, Hurtle Vale and Giles.

“This is a long list of seats where the Liberal Party is on a single-digit first-preference vote and that is a very big mountain to climb if that party wants to rebuild.”

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Date: 21/03/2026 23:34:21
From: dv
ID: 2372192
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Significant difference between the ABC’s estimate of ONP’s fortunes, and with various other psephological experts.

Dr Kev Bonham has marked Narungga as a probable win for One Nation, and also has One Nation leading in Mackillop.

William Bowe of The Poll Bludger has One Nation winning in Narungga and Ngadjuri, and ahead in Hammond and Mackillop.

The ABC does not have One Nation ahead in any seats.

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Date: 21/03/2026 23:55:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372200
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Ashton Hurn seems relaxed and comfortable with her party’s annihilation.

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Date: 22/03/2026 00:04:22
From: dv
ID: 2372201
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Significant difference between the ABC’s estimate of ONP’s fortunes, and with various other psephological experts.

Dr Kev Bonham has marked Narungga as a probable win for One Nation, and also has One Nation leading in Mackillop.

William Bowe of The Poll Bludger has One Nation winning in Narungga and Ngadjuri, and ahead in Hammond and Mackillop.

The ABC does not have One Nation ahead in any seats.

Drilling into it, I think I see the reason for the discrepancy. The ABC seems to be using a pretty small-c conservative assumption about preference flows.
Bowe reckons that in some of these nominally conservative seats, the Libs have done so appallingly that they won’t even be in the 2 candidate preferred count.

Case in point, Ngadjuri (previously known as Frome) is held by Penny Pratt (LIB). She won the seat in 2022 (58 – 42 2pp versus ALP)
If this came down to a Liberal versus One Nation contest, she’d be elected comfortably on preferences: the ALP and Greens scrupulously preference Libs over ON.
But she only got 28% of the primary vote and will probably end up being eliminated before the ALP candidate. So the final boss fight is between ALP and ON, and the Liberal preferences WILL elect One Nation.

Similar situation in Hammond. Incumbent Liberal Adrian Pederick looks to have received around 19% of the primary. Even after distribution of preferences, he only gets 28%, and is eliminated, meaning the final two candidates are ALP and ON, and once again Liberal preferences elect ON.

Yikes.

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Date: 22/03/2026 00:05:59
From: dv
ID: 2372203
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


Ashton Hurn seems relaxed and comfortable with her party’s annihilation.


Me too lol

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Date: 22/03/2026 00:47:47
From: dv
ID: 2372209
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

This election appears to bring to a close the representation of Nick Xenophon’s parties in government, after almost 30 years.

His first party was No Pokies, then Nick Xenophon team, and finally SA-Best.

The last surviving SA-Best representative is Constadina Bonaros, who was elected in 2018. She only got 1% this year and will not be re-elected.

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Date: 22/03/2026 07:44:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 2372224
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


ABC chief elections analyst Casey Briggs has just outlined the magnitude of the drop in the Liberal vote.

“I’ve got about 15 seats where the Liberal Party is on a single-digit number. Elizabeth, as well as Port Adelaide, Taylor, Croydon, the Premier’s seat,” he said.

“We’ve got Playford, West Torrens, Black, we’ve seen Florey, Hurtle Vale and Giles.

“This is a long list of seats where the Liberal Party is on a single-digit first-preference vote and that is a very big mountain to climb if that party wants to rebuild.”

Despite all the predictions, One Nation still hasn’t got a seat.

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Date: 22/03/2026 07:47:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2372226
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

A lesson for parts of the world, win or lose, on how to conduct a civil, courteous and democratic election.

…… and not an AK47 in sight.

We should be proud of ourselves.

Probably.

At least we don’t have to duck because AK-47 bullets don’t go so far up and what goes up has to come down

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Date: 22/03/2026 07:49:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 2372228
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:


Kingy said:

dv said:

Pauline Hanson is giving a speech, she suggest that a lot of the potentially informal votes that have been set aside for scrutiny will end up going to One Nation.

Make of that what you will.

Pauline Hanson supporters are angered that voters have drawn a dick and balls on the voting slip, and it’s still not recorded as a vote for the dickhead party.

LOL

well their how to vote cards should nay have had, vote for this dickhead printed on ut.

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Date: 22/03/2026 13:26:31
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2372339
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Indigenous leader Rhoda Roberts, who coined ‘Welcome to Country’, dies aged 66

Patrick Begley
Updated March 21, 2026 — 7:35pm,first published 6:29pm

Warning: this story contains the name and images of an Indigenous person who has died.

Rhoda Roberts, the esteemed Indigenous arts leader who coined the term “Welcome to Country”, has died. She was 66.

The Widjabul Wieybal woman of the Bundjalung nation worked as a producer, director, writer, broadcaster, performer and executive, winning several awards.

Raised in Lismore in northern NSW, Roberts worked early in her career as journalist with SBS. In a tribute, the broadcaster said she had “made history in 1989 as co-host of First in Line with Michael Johnson, becoming the first Indigenous presenters on prime-time Australian television”.

In the 1980s, she introduced the term “Welcome to Country”, giving modern significance to the traditional ceremony used to govern movement through Aboriginal lands.

“It was a time to reactivate what we had always done as protocol,” she later said. “Inviting the local custodian at an event to welcome us and honour the ancestors and pay respect to the lands that we’re visiting is really important.”

Roberts served as creative director of the Indigenous segment of the Sydney Olympics opening ceremony in 2000. Later she became the first head of First Nations programming at the Sydney Opera House, where last year she performed a show about her cousin Frank Roberts, a boxer who became Australia’s first Aboriginal Olympian in 1964.

Roberts was named an Officer of the Order of Australia in 2016 for distinguished service to the performing arts, leadership, advocacy and promoting contemporary Indigenous culture.

Her family confirmed on Saturday afternoon “our beautiful Rhoda Roberts has returned to the Dreaming” after a seven-month fight with ovarian cancer.

“Words fail to capture the true love, depth, intelligence and warmth that was our beloved Rhoda,” her family said in a message on Instagram.

“She dedicated her life to culture, country and people from all walks of life. She never judged and never discriminated, she always wanted to help uplift people’s lives and provide love and care.

“She faced so much trauma in her life, but continued fighting and never gave up.”

In a statement, SBS confirmed media were permitted to use the name and image of Roberts, who had served as the broadcaster’s first elder-in-residence.

“Rhoda was a true trailblazer and a leader of so many firsts in our industry, playing a transformative role in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander representation across Australia’s cultural landscape,” acting managing director Jane Palfreyman said.

SBS First Nations director Tanya Denning-Orman said: “Rhoda, our fiercely proud Bundjalung woman, reminded us of the shoulders we stand on and the importance of the work we do.”

Minister for Home Affairs and the Arts, Tony Burke, said she would always be respected, revered and loved. “There are generations of artists who credit Rhoda as the catalyst for their careers,” Burke posted on X.

Roberts is survived by her partner Stephen and her three children.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/indigenous-leader-rhoda-roberts-who-coined-welcome-to-country-dies-age-66-20260321-p5rmcc.html

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Date: 22/03/2026 14:33:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2372374
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

timeline cleanse

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Date: 22/03/2026 16:16:23
From: ms spock
ID: 2372411
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


Indigenous leader Rhoda Roberts, who coined ‘Welcome to Country’, dies aged 66

Patrick Begley
Updated March 21, 2026 — 7:35pm,first published 6:29pm

Warning: this story contains the name and images of an Indigenous person who has died.

Rhoda Roberts, the esteemed Indigenous arts leader who coined the term “Welcome to Country”, has died. She was 66.

The Widjabul Wieybal woman of the Bundjalung nation worked as a producer, director, writer, broadcaster, performer and executive, winning several awards.

Raised in Lismore in northern NSW, Roberts worked early in her career as journalist with SBS. In a tribute, the broadcaster said she had “made history in 1989 as co-host of First in Line with Michael Johnson, becoming the first Indigenous presenters on prime-time Australian television”.

In the 1980s, she introduced the term “Welcome to Country”, giving modern significance to the traditional ceremony used to govern movement through Aboriginal lands.

“It was a time to reactivate what we had always done as protocol,” she later said. “Inviting the local custodian at an event to welcome us and honour the ancestors and pay respect to the lands that we’re visiting is really important.”

Roberts served as creative director of the Indigenous segment of the Sydney Olympics opening ceremony in 2000. Later she became the first head of First Nations programming at the Sydney Opera House, where last year she performed a show about her cousin Frank Roberts, a boxer who became Australia’s first Aboriginal Olympian in 1964.

Roberts was named an Officer of the Order of Australia in 2016 for distinguished service to the performing arts, leadership, advocacy and promoting contemporary Indigenous culture.

Her family confirmed on Saturday afternoon “our beautiful Rhoda Roberts has returned to the Dreaming” after a seven-month fight with ovarian cancer.

“Words fail to capture the true love, depth, intelligence and warmth that was our beloved Rhoda,” her family said in a message on Instagram.

“She dedicated her life to culture, country and people from all walks of life. She never judged and never discriminated, she always wanted to help uplift people’s lives and provide love and care.

“She faced so much trauma in her life, but continued fighting and never gave up.”

In a statement, SBS confirmed media were permitted to use the name and image of Roberts, who had served as the broadcaster’s first elder-in-residence.

“Rhoda was a true trailblazer and a leader of so many firsts in our industry, playing a transformative role in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander representation across Australia’s cultural landscape,” acting managing director Jane Palfreyman said.

SBS First Nations director Tanya Denning-Orman said: “Rhoda, our fiercely proud Bundjalung woman, reminded us of the shoulders we stand on and the importance of the work we do.”

Minister for Home Affairs and the Arts, Tony Burke, said she would always be respected, revered and loved. “There are generations of artists who credit Rhoda as the catalyst for their careers,” Burke posted on X.

Roberts is survived by her partner Stephen and her three children.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/indigenous-leader-rhoda-roberts-who-coined-welcome-to-country-dies-age-66-20260321-p5rmcc.html

Vale Rhoda!

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Date: 22/03/2026 16:38:54
From: dv
ID: 2372425
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

YIL that SA has an unusual savings provision.

If you just mark 1 box for a party in the lower house ballot, your votes are distributed per a ticket that the party has registered with the electoral commission.

I don’t like it. Gives the parties too much power.

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Date: 22/03/2026 17:26:35
From: dv
ID: 2372432
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 22/03/2026 18:36:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372460
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

With 9 seats undecided, ONP finally has one seat appearing on the scoreboard, as does OTH.

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Date: 22/03/2026 19:01:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2372466
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:

With 9 seats undecided, ONP finally has one seat appearing on the scoreboard, as does OTH.


interesting times

The prime minister has mounted a defence of multiculturalism, urging “vigilance” against politicians seeking to “turn back” to a previous era of Australia’s history. After support for One Nation surged at the South Australian election, Barnaby Joyce said the party’s views could no longer be considered fringe politics.

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Date: 22/03/2026 19:02:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2372467
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


With 9 seats undecided, ONP finally has one seat appearing on the scoreboard, as does OTH.


ONP has one seat?

I hadn’t really bothered with the SA elections, although i was aware that the ALP was a vastly long way ahead of everyone else.

But, on Channel 7 this morning, there was all sorts of repeated hoo-ha about ONP’s great showing, and how ONP is now a force in SA politics, and scenes of great jubilation at ONP headquarters, rah, rah, etc. etc.

I thought that they must have captured 4 or 5 seats. But, one seat? Gawd ‘elp us, if they’d won two or three seats, there would have be paroxysms of ecstasy oat ONP HQ, like some kind of extremist evangelical get-together.

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Date: 22/03/2026 19:08:03
From: buffy
ID: 2372472
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

With 9 seats undecided, ONP finally has one seat appearing on the scoreboard, as does OTH.


ONP has one seat?

I hadn’t really bothered with the SA elections, although i was aware that the ALP was a vastly long way ahead of everyone else.

But, on Channel 7 this morning, there was all sorts of repeated hoo-ha about ONP’s great showing, and how ONP is now a force in SA politics, and scenes of great jubilation at ONP headquarters, rah, rah, etc. etc.

I thought that they must have captured 4 or 5 seats. But, one seat? Gawd ‘elp us, if they’d won two or three seats, there would have be paroxysms of ecstasy oat ONP HQ, like some kind of extremist evangelical get-together.

But on that graphic there are still 9 undecided seats.

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Date: 22/03/2026 19:12:38
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2372475
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

With 9 seats undecided, ONP finally has one seat appearing on the scoreboard, as does OTH.


ONP has one seat?

I hadn’t really bothered with the SA elections, although i was aware that the ALP was a vastly long way ahead of everyone else.

But, on Channel 7 this morning, there was all sorts of repeated hoo-ha about ONP’s great showing, and how ONP is now a force in SA politics, and scenes of great jubilation at ONP headquarters, rah, rah, etc. etc.

I thought that they must have captured 4 or 5 seats. But, one seat? Gawd ‘elp us, if they’d won two or three seats, there would have be paroxysms of ecstasy oat ONP HQ, like some kind of extremist evangelical get-together.

But on that graphic there are still 9 undecided seats.

OK, they could improve from here.

But, the way that Ch. 7 was talking it up this morning, one could have been forgiven for thinking that ONP had already overtaken the Liberals, or was even running neck-and-neck with the ALP.

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Date: 22/03/2026 19:18:31
From: buffy
ID: 2372477
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

ONP has one seat?

I hadn’t really bothered with the SA elections, although i was aware that the ALP was a vastly long way ahead of everyone else.

But, on Channel 7 this morning, there was all sorts of repeated hoo-ha about ONP’s great showing, and how ONP is now a force in SA politics, and scenes of great jubilation at ONP headquarters, rah, rah, etc. etc.

I thought that they must have captured 4 or 5 seats. But, one seat? Gawd ‘elp us, if they’d won two or three seats, there would have be paroxysms of ecstasy oat ONP HQ, like some kind of extremist evangelical get-together.

But on that graphic there are still 9 undecided seats.

OK, they could improve from here.

But, the way that Ch. 7 was talking it up this morning, one could have been forgiven for thinking that ONP had already overtaken the Liberals, or was even running neck-and-neck with the ALP.

I’m not convinced old style Liberals would go One Nation if they decided to vote elsewhere. In this electorate, which was Malcolm Fraser’s and is very blue blood, the defectors went with an Indy. It wasn’t enough to topple Dan Tehan, but it was very, very close. Those people have ethics and I doubt they would go with the racists.

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Date: 22/03/2026 20:02:26
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2372485
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

FWIW the price of fuel heading upwards with no sign of it plateauing. Usurpingly I’ve not seen it do that before.

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Date: 22/03/2026 20:09:39
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2372486
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spiny Norman said:


FWIW the price of fuel heading upwards with no sign of it plateauing. Usurpingly I’ve not seen it do that before.


Complained to my EV-owning sister that it cost me $90 to fill up yesterday. I expected her to laugh or sigh or gasp, but she said her car was making a funny smell. Later, RACQ took it and, well, it’s dead.

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Date: 22/03/2026 20:13:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2372487
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

FWIW the price of fuel heading upwards with no sign of it plateauing. Usurpingly I’ve not seen it do that before.


Complained to my EV-owning sister that it cost me $90 to fill up yesterday. I expected her to laugh or sigh or gasp, but she said her car was making a funny smell. Later, RACQ took it and, well, it’s dead.

Captain Kirk: There must be something we can do
Bones: It’s dead Jim.

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Date: 22/03/2026 20:20:04
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2372488
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

FWIW the price of fuel heading upwards with no sign of it plateauing. Usurpingly I’ve not seen it do that before.


Complained to my EV-owning sister that it cost me $90 to fill up yesterday. I expected her to laugh or sigh or gasp, but she said her car was making a funny smell. Later, RACQ took it and, well, it’s dead.

What make/model EV?

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Date: 22/03/2026 20:20:58
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2372489
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


Divine Angel said:

Spiny Norman said:

FWIW the price of fuel heading upwards with no sign of it plateauing. Usurpingly I’ve not seen it do that before.


Complained to my EV-owning sister that it cost me $90 to fill up yesterday. I expected her to laugh or sigh or gasp, but she said her car was making a funny smell. Later, RACQ took it and, well, it’s dead.

What make/model EV?

Ioniq. They’re always having trouble with that thing.

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Date: 22/03/2026 20:25:56
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2372490
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Divine Angel said:

Complained to my EV-owning sister that it cost me $90 to fill up yesterday. I expected her to laugh or sigh or gasp, but she said her car was making a funny smell. Later, RACQ took it and, well, it’s dead.

What make/model EV?

Ioniq. They’re always having trouble with that thing.

I drove one of them in Brissie for my hire car a few years back.

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Date: 22/03/2026 20:30:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2372491
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spiny Norman said:


FWIW the price of fuel heading upwards with no sign of it plateauing. Usurpingly I’ve not seen it do that before.


Oil companies: F*ck , yeah, let’s see how far we can push this before it explodes!

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Date: 22/03/2026 20:34:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2372492
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

FWIW the price of fuel heading upwards with no sign of it plateauing. Usurpingly I’ve not seen it do that before.


Complained to my EV-owning sister that it cost me $90 to fill up yesterday. I expected her to laugh or sigh or gasp, but she said her car was making a funny smell. Later, RACQ took it and, well, it’s dead.

This is what ‘worries’ me about EVs.

Petrol engine goes bung: spare parts, replace this, replace that, all is well.

EV: funny burning smell. Car dead. Choices: 1. new batteries and or new motor, $5,000 to $20,000, 2. throw it away.

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Date: 22/03/2026 21:28:39
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2372498
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 22/03/2026 21:29:57
From: Kingy
ID: 2372499
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spiny Norman said:



Literal lol right there.

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Date: 22/03/2026 21:34:25
From: kii
ID: 2372501
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Kingy said:


Spiny Norman said:


Literal lol right there.

Barnby will never be allowed to forget this.

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Date: 22/03/2026 21:41:02
From: party_pants
ID: 2372503
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

So it looks like the Libs will lose some seats to One Neuron, but will lose more seats to ALP.

Yet the ALP gains are a side-show compared to ONP gains according to the Australian media.

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Date: 22/03/2026 21:45:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2372507
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Spiny Norman said:



Barnaby has the floor.

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Date: 22/03/2026 22:29:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372508
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:


Barnaby has the floor.

Heh.

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Date: 23/03/2026 08:07:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2372540
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

wait

what happens when revitalised Liberal coalitionise with One Nation and communist LABOR go it alone

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Date: 23/03/2026 08:11:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 2372541
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

wait

what happens when revitalised Liberal coalitionise with One Nation and communist LABOR go it alone

What are they doiing with the Nationals? Dropping them in favour of One Nation?

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Date: 23/03/2026 09:22:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2372562
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

wait

what happens when revitalised Liberal coalitionise with One Nation and communist LABOR go it alone

What are they doiing with the Nationals? Dropping them in favour of One Nation?

all we’re asking is, do we reckon corruption aren’t opportunistic and shameless, and if there’s a chance to get in bed with the fascists to take control, do we reckon they won’t

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Date: 23/03/2026 09:53:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2372570
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

wait

what happens when revitalised Liberal coalitionise with One Nation and communist LABOR go it alone

What are they doiing with the Nationals? Dropping them in favour of One Nation?

all we’re asking is, do we reckon corruption aren’t opportunistic and shameless, and if there’s a chance to get in bed with the fascists to take control, do we reckon they won’t

You may have a point.

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Date: 23/03/2026 13:49:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372622
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Eight seats in doubt and OTH are overtaking One Neuron.

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Date: 23/03/2026 13:57:01
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2372624
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


Eight seats in doubt and OTH are overtaking One Neuron.


I was blissfully unaware of comments made by Cory Bernardi prior to the SA election.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-07/cory-bernardi-stands-by-bestiality-claim-ahead-of-sa-election/106423186

Mr Bernardi claimed he did not want Australia to be changed into “some Middle Eastern kingdom or some backwater where they’re still living in the sixth century”.

“There are even some creepy people out there … say it is OK to have consensual sexual relations between humans and animals.”

“I’m offended by people eating too much McDonalds, but that doesn’t mean you should not deal with the fabric or the reality of what you’re confronting,”

“If you want to say someone is a good Muslim, then their values are incompatible with Australian values,”

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Date: 23/03/2026 14:02:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2372625
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


Bubblecar said:

Eight seats in doubt and OTH are overtaking One Neuron.


I was blissfully unaware of comments made by Cory Bernardi prior to the SA election.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-07/cory-bernardi-stands-by-bestiality-claim-ahead-of-sa-election/106423186

Mr Bernardi claimed he did not want Australia to be changed into “some Middle Eastern kingdom or some backwater where they’re still living in the sixth century”.

“There are even some creepy people out there … say it is OK to have consensual sexual relations between humans and animals.”

“I’m offended by people eating too much McDonalds, but that doesn’t mean you should not deal with the fabric or the reality of what you’re confronting,”

“If you want to say someone is a good Muslim, then their values are incompatible with Australian values,”

I regard myself as progressive, but I’d be on the fence as to whether it’s OK for humans to have sexual relations with Cory Bernadi.

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Date: 23/03/2026 14:16:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 2372628
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Bubblecar said:


Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Eight seats in doubt and OTH are overtaking One Neuron.


I was blissfully unaware of comments made by Cory Bernardi prior to the SA election.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-07/cory-bernardi-stands-by-bestiality-claim-ahead-of-sa-election/106423186

Mr Bernardi claimed he did not want Australia to be changed into “some Middle Eastern kingdom or some backwater where they’re still living in the sixth century”.

“There are even some creepy people out there … say it is OK to have consensual sexual relations between humans and animals.”

“I’m offended by people eating too much McDonalds, but that doesn’t mean you should not deal with the fabric or the reality of what you’re confronting,”

“If you want to say someone is a good Muslim, then their values are incompatible with Australian values,”

I regard myself as progressive, but I’d be on the fence as to whether it’s OK for humans to have sexual relations with Cory Bernadi.

Heh.

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Date: 23/03/2026 14:21:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2372630
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

WTF if it’s going to be like that why not just use something like they have in libraries and detect when each RPT gets on or off a public transport, or goes through the gate, or whatever

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-23/millions-paid-in-fare-evasion-fines-since-50-cent-fares/106460706

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Date: 23/03/2026 14:27:26
From: Cymek
ID: 2372631
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


Bubblecar said:

Eight seats in doubt and OTH are overtaking One Neuron.


I was blissfully unaware of comments made by Cory Bernardi prior to the SA election.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-07/cory-bernardi-stands-by-bestiality-claim-ahead-of-sa-election/106423186

Mr Bernardi claimed he did not want Australia to be changed into “some Middle Eastern kingdom or some backwater where they’re still living in the sixth century”.

“There are even some creepy people out there … say it is OK to have consensual sexual relations between humans and animals.”

“I’m offended by people eating too much McDonalds, but that doesn’t mean you should not deal with the fabric or the reality of what you’re confronting,”

“If you want to say someone is a good Muslim, then their values are incompatible with Australian values,”

Australian values to me means white Australian policy, Christian, heterosexual, cis male or female, sports loving, sexist, macho moron male

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Date: 23/03/2026 14:28:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2372633
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Cymek said:

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Eight seats in doubt and OTH are overtaking One Neuron.


I was blissfully unaware of comments made by Cory Bernardi prior to the SA election.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-07/cory-bernardi-stands-by-bestiality-claim-ahead-of-sa-election/106423186

Mr Bernardi claimed he did not want Australia to be changed into “some Middle Eastern kingdom or some backwater where they’re still living in the sixth century”.

“There are even some creepy people out there … say it is OK to have consensual sexual relations between humans and animals.”

“I’m offended by people eating too much McDonalds, but that doesn’t mean you should not deal with the fabric or the reality of what you’re confronting,”

“If you want to say someone is a good Muslim, then their values are incompatible with Australian values,”

Australian values to me means white Australian policy, Christian, heterosexual, cis male or female, sports loving, sexist, macho moron male

that’s the good stuff

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Date: 23/03/2026 14:30:13
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2372635
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

WTF if it’s going to be like that why not just use something like they have in libraries and detect when each RPT gets on or off a public transport, or goes through the gate, or whatever

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-23/millions-paid-in-fare-evasion-fines-since-50-cent-fares/106460706

Two comments here.
1) the number of fines issued has decreased.

2) The government argues that making commuters tap on and off helps Transport and Main Roads understand how and where commuters are travelling.
They say this data helps them make better decisions about investment in services and infrastructure.

Re: 2) you can’t tap if there’s no public transport to tap on and off. Look at the areas where people aren’t going, and ask why. (I’m still trying to figure out why it takes me two buses to go around the corner of a major intersection.)

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Date: 23/03/2026 14:32:23
From: Cymek
ID: 2372637
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Divine Angel said:

I was blissfully unaware of comments made by Cory Bernardi prior to the SA election.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-07/cory-bernardi-stands-by-bestiality-claim-ahead-of-sa-election/106423186

Mr Bernardi claimed he did not want Australia to be changed into “some Middle Eastern kingdom or some backwater where they’re still living in the sixth century”.

“There are even some creepy people out there … say it is OK to have consensual sexual relations between humans and animals.”

“I’m offended by people eating too much McDonalds, but that doesn’t mean you should not deal with the fabric or the reality of what you’re confronting,”

“If you want to say someone is a good Muslim, then their values are incompatible with Australian values,”

Australian values to me means white Australian policy, Christian, heterosexual, cis male or female, sports loving, sexist, macho moron male

that’s the good stuff

Society changes, its constant throughout history.
Some is good or bad or neither depending on how you look at, just different.
Fighting it does nothing
You are going to get bad people regardless of how they identify.
So what we do is lump everyone into that category instead of saying this individual isn’t nice.

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Date: 23/03/2026 14:51:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2372645
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

ABC journalists and staff will go on strike this Wednesday after 60 per cent voted against the broadcaster’s latest pay offer.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-23/abc-staff-to-strike-after-enterprise-agreement-rejected/106486350

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Date: 23/03/2026 15:48:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2372656
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

for comparison in case anyone thought the other one was unusual

alleged

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Date: 23/03/2026 15:57:31
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2372657
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

for comparison in case anyone thought the other one was unusual

alleged


The entire population of Qld is around the same as the population of greater Sydney.

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Date: 23/03/2026 17:02:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2372675
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

makes sense, people use 跟爱 the most while they’re asleep

Andrew Hastie says Australia won’t be able to host new artificial intelligence data centres without nuclear, coal or gas power. The shadow industry minister says Australia won’t be able to invest in new data centres with renewable energy alone. “What the government is saying here is you have to invest in your renewables, but everybody can’t power AI centres off renewables alone, you need baseload power from coal or gas or nuclear,” Hastie says. “If you go to an AI centre or data centre in this country, you’ll find generally speaking a Rolls Royce diesel generator to back it up, powered by diesel,” he says. He says the emergence of artificial intelligence will likely impact the accounting and legal professions, and journalism.

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Date: 23/03/2026 22:19:34
From: Ian
ID: 2372727
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 23/03/2026 22:25:54
From: dv
ID: 2372730
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 24/03/2026 01:40:52
From: furious
ID: 2372738
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:



Looks like he chose the wrong week to give up sniffing glue…

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Date: 24/03/2026 04:31:25
From: Michael V
ID: 2372746
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

FWIW the price of fuel heading upwards with no sign of it plateauing. Usurpingly I’ve not seen it do that before.


Complained to my EV-owning sister that it cost me $90 to fill up yesterday. I expected her to laugh or sigh or gasp, but she said her car was making a funny smell. Later, RACQ took it and, well, it’s dead.

Oh dear. That might be expensive. How old is it?

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Date: 24/03/2026 04:38:58
From: Michael V
ID: 2372750
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

party_pants said:


So it looks like the Libs will lose some seats to One Neuron, but will lose more seats to ALP.

Yet the ALP gains are a side-show compared to ONP gains according to the Australian media.

It’s been a very, very strange media response. I really don’t get it.

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Date: 24/03/2026 10:13:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2372803
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

so it’s always orange people who are bad news, makes sense

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-24/the-orange-people-history-in-pemberton/106473858

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Date: 24/03/2026 10:43:28
From: Tamb
ID: 2372812
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

so it’s always orange people who are bad news, makes sense

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-24/the-orange-people-history-in-pemberton/106473858


The Netherlanders will be peeved about people dissing orangemen.

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Date: 24/03/2026 13:56:51
From: dv
ID: 2372891
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The ABC has rather changed its tune and now has projections more in line with the psephological boffins.

It lists 8 seats remaining “in doubt”, with ONP leading in 3 of these, Independents ahead in 2, ALP ahead in 2, Libs in 1.

If those seats are indeed won by the parties currently leading, the final assembly would be

ALP 34
Libs 5
ONP 4
Others 4

Liberals clinging for dear life to official Opposition status.

Who are these Others?

Geoff Brock, who despite being an independent has been in cabinet at various times, and was even Minister for Local Government in the current administration until he decided to step down from cabinet for health reasons. Given this, quite surprising that he chose to rerun as an independent at the age of 76, but he’s managed to beat out the ONP candidate here and retain his seat.

Travis Fatchen in Mount Gambier. This was previously regarded as a Very Safe Liberal seat but they did absolutely dogshit, with the Liberal candidate getting 12% of the primary vote and hence eliminated very early in the piece. Fuck. The final showdown then was between Fatchen and the ONP candidate. Fatchen used to be a staffer for Troy Bell, Lib MP who went to prison for dishonest dealings. Make of that what you will.

Lou Nicholson is ahead in Finniss, in a head to head with the Liberal candidate. This is not done and dusted but Nicholson is ahead at the moment. She appears Tealish. Finniss was previously a marginal Lib held seat.

Matt Schultz may win the previously marginal Liberal seat of Kavel, but it’s going to depend on how the preferences roll. This is very much a four-cornered contest between Libs, ONP, Labor and Independent. Schultz seems very much the local community activist type without much ideological bent.

—-

New Victorian poll has the Liberals ahead 52-48 in the 2PP. Very real prospect of a minority government with ONP as a key player.

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Date: 24/03/2026 21:22:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2373038
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

always knew those angry defence types were environmentalist hippies

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-24/fossil-fuel-climate-disinformation-threatens-australia/106490840

wait uh we mean fknel it only took a legit’ threat of war and new asymmetric doctrines before the powers that be started to take this shit seriously

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Date: 24/03/2026 21:24:49
From: dv
ID: 2373039
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Not sure the party who wants to change the Family Court to be more friendly to men should have run a candidate called B.Ashman but okay

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Date: 24/03/2026 21:33:31
From: Kingy
ID: 2373040
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Not sure the party who wants to change the Family Court to be more friendly to men should have run a candidate called B.Ashman but okay

lol

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Date: 24/03/2026 21:41:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2373042
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

wait some of yous will be happy to confirm that we must be stupider than the stupidest stupid in the country

hang on a moment didn’t we just spend the last year hearing about how

Australian wine producers are celebrating after securing the removal of tariffs for exports to the EU. The industry estimates it will deliver $14.5 million in tariff savings each year.

the exporter-sellers aren’t the ones paying the tariffs, it’s the people import-buying who pay the tariffs, therefore ussa stupid

right

¿ right ?

¿?¿ right ?¿?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-24/farmers-label-eu-deal-worst-ever-free-trade-agreement/106490654

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Date: 25/03/2026 07:51:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2373108
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

we are clever politicians don’t worry we consider all options except options we don’t like

Labor frontbencher Murray Watt also downplayed reports that the government is considering a cap on the amount of petrol motorists could buy. The plan, which was developed back in 2019 and released through a Freedom of Information request, was reported in the News Corp papers this morning. Watt says the government is not considering the proposal. “We continue to encourage all Australians to only use the fuel that they need. We know that there are some pretty severe disruptions to supply in some parts of the country,” he told Nine. Watt adds that a cut to the fuel excise is also not being considered at this time.

nice win for communicating to inspire confidence yous geniuses

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Date: 25/03/2026 10:38:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2373126
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

so they should do the honourable thing and

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-25/basil-zempilas-not-fearful-of-one-nation-at-2029-wa-election/106488344

preference the fascists in a glorious sacrifice to take them both out

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Date: 25/03/2026 10:58:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 2373128
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 25/03/2026 11:10:23
From: Cymek
ID: 2373130
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:



Apparently at 11:58pm

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Date: 25/03/2026 11:17:30
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2373132
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:



Heavy.

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Date: 25/03/2026 11:20:03
From: Cymek
ID: 2373133
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:


Heavy.

Bruce Dickinson is captaining the vessel

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Date: 25/03/2026 12:44:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 2373166
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Cymek said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:


Heavy.

Bruce Dickinson is captaining the vessel

The useless part of it is that it arrived here empty of cargo.

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Date: 25/03/2026 12:57:14
From: dv
ID: 2373179
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Two federal polls today, somewhat different results.

Yougov:
2pp Labor vs “Coalition” 54 – 46
2pp Labor vs ONP 53 – 47
Primaries: Labor 29%, ONP 27%, “Coalition” 19%, Greens 13%

Morgan:
2pp Labor vs “Coalition” 52.5 – 47.5
Primaries: Labor 27%, ONP 23.5%, “Coalition” 25.5%, Greens 13.5%

No one has been asking about preferred prime minister so I don’t really have a gauge on how Angus is doing.

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Date: 25/03/2026 13:02:36
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2373186
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Two federal polls today, somewhat different results.

Yougov:
2pp Labor vs “Coalition” 54 – 46
2pp Labor vs ONP 53 – 47
Primaries: Labor 29%, ONP 27%, “Coalition” 19%, Greens 13%

Morgan:
2pp Labor vs “Coalition” 52.5 – 47.5
Primaries: Labor 27%, ONP 23.5%, “Coalition” 25.5%, Greens 13.5%

No one has been asking about preferred prime minister so I don’t really have a gauge on how Angus is doing.

Just ask Angus, he’s fantastic at providing critique on himself…

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Date: 26/03/2026 19:54:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 2373761
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 26/03/2026 21:51:35
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2373797
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Gold Coast mayor Tom Tate says it is too early to say whether he will excuse himself from a future Trump tower vote, after he received gifts from the organisation.

The mayor’s latest register of interests reveals the Trump Organization paid for Cr Tate’s meals and more during a recent Mar-a-lago stay.

The Centre for Public Integrity says Mr Tate must exclude himself from any future decision-making about the tower.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-26/tom-tate-trump-tower-council-decision-making/106497792

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Date: 27/03/2026 11:40:37
From: dv
ID: 2373912
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

While there has been plenty of focus on the 8 seats the Libs have lost in the lower house, they have also dropped a couple in the Legislative Council.

They still have four legislative council seats from the 2022 election (LC members have 8 year terms), but this leaves thrm with 11 members of parliament altogether. Not easy to tun an Opposition like this.

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Date: 28/03/2026 17:56:11
From: kii
ID: 2374273
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

“James Hillier, known as Nordacious, told he could face jail time for some of his designs made in support of Palestine”

Link

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Date: 28/03/2026 18:10:00
From: Michael V
ID: 2374280
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

kii said:


“James Hillier, known as Nordacious, told he could face jail time for some of his designs made in support of Palestine”

Link


Cheeses!

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Date: 29/03/2026 09:31:54
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2374408
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Andrew Hastie is remarkably lucid on ‘Insiders’ this morning. I wish he wouldn’t dumb himself down when he speaks to/for the plebs though

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Date: 29/03/2026 09:55:27
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2374420
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


Andrew Hastie is remarkably lucid on ‘Insiders’ this morning. I wish he wouldn’t dumb himself down when he speaks to/for the plebs though

That reminds me I haven’t read Media Watch Dog this week.

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Date: 29/03/2026 13:57:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374495
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

hey better 50 years late than never we guess

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-29/senate-report-misinformation-climate-change-recommendations/106497978

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Date: 29/03/2026 14:16:55
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2374499
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Hey PP if you’re a fan of ‘Insiders’ at all, today’s episode with an interview with Andrew Hastie is quite good and might interest you given your advocacy of economic resilience, and new policies to address the new world order we seem to be facing.

I have somewhat forgiven him for the dumbed down opinions he shared on social media which he was far more erudite in explaining this morning.

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Date: 29/03/2026 14:20:25
From: party_pants
ID: 2374500
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


Hey PP if you’re a fan of ‘Insiders’ at all, today’s episode with an interview with Andrew Hastie is quite good and might interest you given your advocacy of economic resilience, and new policies to address the new world order we seem to be facing.

I have somewhat forgiven him for the dumbed down opinions he shared on social media which he was far more erudite in explaining this morning.

Thanks, I might have a look at it later this afternoon/evening.

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Date: 29/03/2026 17:50:06
From: dv
ID: 2374567
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-29/australians-may-be-losing-faith-in-us-alliance-hastie-says/106508216

Coalition frontbencher Andrew Hastie has warned the credibility of the United States is being damaged and says Australians may be losing faith in the alliance as the war in Iran enters its second month.

The shadow minister for industry and sovereign capability said the war in Iran was a “huge miscalculation” and criticised US President Donald Trump’s failure to consult its allies, including Australia, noting many were dependent on the export of fuel in and out of the Middle East.

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Date: 29/03/2026 18:11:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 2374575
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-29/australians-may-be-losing-faith-in-us-alliance-hastie-says/106508216

Coalition frontbencher Andrew Hastie has warned the credibility of the United States is being damaged and says Australians may be losing faith in the alliance as the war in Iran enters its second month.

The shadow minister for industry and sovereign capability said the war in Iran was a “huge miscalculation” and criticised US President Donald Trump’s failure to consult its allies, including Australia, noting many were dependent on the export of fuel in and out of the Middle East.

The bleeding obvious.

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Date: 29/03/2026 18:16:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374580
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

more free passage

in a sensible world, Australians would totally have faith in the fascist alliance remaining to lose

in a sensible world, USSA would totally have credibility remaining to lose

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-29/australians-may-be-losing-faith-in-us-alliance-hastie-says/106508216

Coalition frontbencher Andrew Hastie has warned the credibility of the United States is being damaged and says Australians may be losing faith in the alliance as the war in Iran enters its second month.

The shadow minister for industry and sovereign capability said the war in Iran was a “huge miscalculation” and criticised US President Donald Trump’s failure to consult its allies, including Australia, noting many were dependent on the export of fuel in and out of the Middle East.

The bleeding obvious.

don’t worry he’ll soon change his tune when the liberal whips get cracking

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Date: 29/03/2026 18:52:02
From: dv
ID: 2374600
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

https://transport.vic.gov.au/news-and-resources/news/free-public-transport-across-victoria

Free public transport in Victoria until April 30

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Date: 30/03/2026 08:25:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374666
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

hey journalists instead of gushing about dear leader how

Over the weekend, that pivot was crystal clear when Australia started racing to get fuel here first — at record high rates — underwritten by the Commonwealth. It may seem like a crazy idea, spending so much on boosting our supply, but a long period of complacency across different governments has left us desperately vulnerable.

about pushing to secure the bloc against all such future supply shocks

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-30/fuel-price-hikes-easter-holiday-travel-iran-war/106494478
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-30/electric-truck-delivery-sydney-canberra/106472780

oh wait evs have the range and the pull to do the Australian supply chain ¿¡¿¿ Who would off thought

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Date: 30/03/2026 09:20:41
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2374676
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Hastie’s truth bombs on tax and war will rattle the Liberal Party

Paul Sakkal
March 29, 2026 — 4:54pm

Opposition frontbencher Andrew Hastie sees himself as the Liberal Party’s truth-teller, intent on breaking out of ideological shackles and tearing down dogma wherever he can.

In a compelling interview on ABC’s Insiders on Sunday, the former soldier delivered a line that will serve as a sharp warning to Angus Taylor, whose instincts draw heavily from Howard-era thinking on economics and foreign affairs.

“No one’s going to reward us for a final stand for neoliberal politics, OK,” Hastie said.

Hastie, who wanted the top job before exiting the leadership race after Taylor won the numbers, offered a new vision on tax and Australia’s place in the world.

In both areas, he has created a headache for Taylor and arguably made life easier for Anthony Albanese, who can now point to confusion in opposition ranks.

Bowen’s big stick spurs largest intervention since World War II to secure fuel for bush
On tax, Hastie has given Labor more room to manoeuvre on scrapping tax breaks for property investors and potentially hiking taxes on big gas companies.

“We got smashed in 2022; we got smashed in 2025. Our primary vote is being cannibalised from both the right and the left. So I think adopting a posture of humility and being open-minded is important,” Hastie said, arguing the Liberals should no longer be “the first line of defence for corporate Australia”.

“I just think we need to overhaul the whole system. We either fix the system, or it’s torn down by people like Pauline Hanson.”

The West Australian’s positioning puts him in line with another leading voice in the new vanguard of Liberals, former Menzies MP Keith Wolahan. Their thinking on big business and widening the party’s coalition to the non- asset-owning class is at odds with Taylor, who in an interview with this masthead described Labor’s tax ideas as an “assault on aspiration”.

Hastie is at risk of adopting the left’s framing of the debate on intergenerational equity and the social licence for gas firms, however, potentially ceding the opposition’s ability to create clear battle lines and campaign for votes ahead of the budget and Farrer byelection.

On foreign affairs, Hastie has gone where no major party politician has gone: admitting Donald Trump’s war in Iran represented a “huge miscalculation”. Hastie proves that one can hold this view at the same time as retaining a disdain for the theocratic butchers of Tehran.

The war would dent American prestige and cast doubt on the president’s judgment, Hastie said, plunging Australia into a new, truly multipolar era in which military and economic self-sufficiency will be crucial.

The effect of Hastie’s interview, which came after weeks of outspoken interventions, will accelerate the conversation about the potential upside of a Hastie-led Liberal Party.

Taylor is obviously safe in the job, yet his first weeks have been low-key and staid. It’s not proving to be easy in the new attention economy to get his message out ahead of Hastie, Pauline Hanson, Barnaby Joyce, Matt Canavan and Tim Wilson, all of whom are nimble and love the spotlight. Hastie’s presence in a senior role under Taylor should push the party to be more adventurous in this existential moment.

Hastie has not raised in shadow cabinet some of the transformational ideas he has aired publicly, fuelling a sense he is not a team player. Some of his colleagues view him as a commentator/thought-leader without much of a strategy. After his fumbled leadership pitch, some of his closest colleagues question if he has the political smarts to build coalitions and mature into a leader.

Hastie is still on a journey and doesn’t have all the answers for how his Australia-first agenda can be turned into a coherent plan to take on Labor.

But after Sunday’s sit-down, his colleagues and the public now know how a Hastie-led Liberal era would look and feel.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/hastie-s-truth-bombs-on-tax-and-war-will-rattle-the-liberal-party-20260329-p5zjo4.html

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Date: 30/03/2026 11:17:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374708
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

natural allies

The NSW Liberals and the Rail, Tram and Bus Union (RTBU) are calling for free public transport in response to surging fuel prices.

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Date: 30/03/2026 14:10:36
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2374760
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

ONP looks to get at least 3 seats in SA and lead in another. Now just to see if they implode like Palmer United/UAP in time to totally ruin their chances in Victoria come November.

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Date: 30/03/2026 14:12:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 2374762
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


ONP looks to get at least 3 seats in SA and lead in another. Now just to see if they implode like Palmer United/UAP in time to totally ruin their chances in Victoria come November.

Barnaby will keep them lubricated.

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Date: 30/03/2026 14:15:27
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2374763
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

ONP looks to get at least 3 seats in SA and lead in another. Now just to see if they implode like Palmer United/UAP in time to totally ruin their chances in Victoria come November.

Barnaby will keep them lubricated.

It will be interesting to watch how the new MPs respond to Pauline’s latest thought bubble on Islam, the economy etc.

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Date: 30/03/2026 14:23:05
From: Cymek
ID: 2374764
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

ONP looks to get at least 3 seats in SA and lead in another. Now just to see if they implode like Palmer United/UAP in time to totally ruin their chances in Victoria come November.

Barnaby will keep them lubricated.

It will be interesting to watch how the new MPs respond to Pauline’s latest thought bubble on Islam, the economy etc.

Islam is bad, m’kay

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Date: 30/03/2026 14:24:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 2374765
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Cymek said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Barnaby will keep them lubricated.

It will be interesting to watch how the new MPs respond to Pauline’s latest thought bubble on Islam, the economy etc.

Islam is bad, m’kay

In fact, it isn’t.
We owe so much of our civilisation to Islam.

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Date: 30/03/2026 14:32:36
From: Obviousman
ID: 2374766
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


ONP looks to get at least 3 seats in SA and lead in another. Now just to see if they implode like Palmer United/UAP in time to totally ruin their chances in Victoria come November.

Didn’t one of their SA candidates have to withdraw because he had an arrest warrant from the UK outstanding? Really good candidate vetting….. not.

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Date: 30/03/2026 14:36:03
From: Cymek
ID: 2374767
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

It will be interesting to watch how the new MPs respond to Pauline’s latest thought bubble on Islam, the economy etc.

Islam is bad, m’kay

In fact, it isn’t.
We owe so much of our civilisation to Islam.

I know, its all from certain points of view as well.
People are bad and that’s what we aren’t allowed to say anymore.
Certain practices and beliefs are also bad regardless of every other consideration

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Date: 30/03/2026 14:38:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 2374768
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Obviousman said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

ONP looks to get at least 3 seats in SA and lead in another. Now just to see if they implode like Palmer United/UAP in time to totally ruin their chances in Victoria come November.

Didn’t one of their SA candidates have to withdraw because he had an arrest warrant from the UK outstanding? Really good candidate vetting….. not.

Yes. It isn’t a good look for a political party.

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Date: 30/03/2026 14:45:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374769
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

so we fund a fuel oil excise discount by cutting back on renewable and battery incentives hey

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Date: 30/03/2026 14:51:37
From: dv
ID: 2374771
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


ONP looks to get at least 3 seats in SA and lead in another. Now just to see if they implode like Palmer United/UAP in time to totally ruin their chances in Victoria come November.

The median length of time an elected ONP official remains with the ONP is 14 months.

However it might be different this time. They can very close to being the official opposition in South Australia, which would’ve provided a new range of perks.

They might well have a shot of this at the federal level.

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Date: 30/03/2026 14:54:33
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2374772
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The government has taken Angus Taylors advice and halved fuel tax.

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Date: 30/03/2026 15:00:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374776
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

ONP looks to get at least 3 seats in SA and lead in another. Now just to see if they implode like Palmer United/UAP in time to totally ruin their chances in Victoria come November.

The median length of time an elected ONP official remains with the ONP is 14 months.

However it might be different this time. They can very close to being the official opposition in South Australia, which would’ve provided a new range of perks.

They might well have a shot of this at the federal level.

what could the Germans have done

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Date: 30/03/2026 15:30:33
From: Cymek
ID: 2374778
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

ONP looks to get at least 3 seats in SA and lead in another. Now just to see if they implode like Palmer United/UAP in time to totally ruin their chances in Victoria come November.

The median length of time an elected ONP official remains with the ONP is 14 months.

However it might be different this time. They can very close to being the official opposition in South Australia, which would’ve provided a new range of perks.

They might well have a shot of this at the federal level.

what could the Germans have done

How long before ONP become NSP but pretends its all about Aussie values WTF that means

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Date: 30/03/2026 15:44:45
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2374785
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Peak Warming Man said:


The government has taken Angus Taylors advice and halved fuel tax.

Ummm it’s not Angus’ advice…

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Date: 30/03/2026 16:21:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374807
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

maybe

Adelaide city councillor Henry Davis said businesses were already struggling because fewer people were coming into the CBD, which free public transport could help. “It’s going to make sure that people keep coming to the city, but it’s also going to relieve congestion, stress and then reduce the consumption of fuel across the state,” he said.

people just need to get over this “gotta get into the cbd” fetish sheesh

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Date: 30/03/2026 16:32:19
From: Cymek
ID: 2374811
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The government has taken Angus Taylors advice and halved fuel tax.

Ummm it’s not Angus’ advice…

I can’t imagine it needed a genius to suggest such advice anyway

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Date: 30/03/2026 16:53:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374814
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The government has taken Angus Taylors advice and halved fuel tax.

Ummm it’s not Angus’ advice…

I can’t imagine it needed a genius to suggest such advice anyway

we mean duh when they cut back on renewables and battery subsidies to subsidise fossil fuels instead it’s win win win for the government looking good and the casual drivers and the oil companies

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Date: 30/03/2026 17:30:16
From: Michael V
ID: 2374831
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

maybe

Adelaide city councillor Henry Davis said businesses were already struggling because fewer people were coming into the CBD, which free public transport could help. “It’s going to make sure that people keep coming to the city, but it’s also going to relieve congestion, stress and then reduce the consumption of fuel across the state,” he said.

people just need to get over this “gotta get into the cbd” fetish sheesh

But the people who make the decisions are friends of the people who own the buildings and the businesses. They are worried that those owners might go to the poorhouse if people don’t use the facilities they have so generously provided.

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Date: 30/03/2026 17:32:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 2374832
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

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Date: 30/03/2026 17:34:49
From: dv
ID: 2374834
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Liberals look quite likely now to win Heysen, though there is a non-zero probability that the Greens will nab it off them. This would depend on the postal votes being pretty anti-Lib. We won’t know for sure until a full distribution is done next week.

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Date: 30/03/2026 19:40:15
From: dv
ID: 2374894
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Anne Twomey answers a question I was wondering about a couple of days ago.

https://youtu.be/mY3D-YzXefA?si=XELewK7rIZrMWzT6
Who becomes Opposition Leader when Party numbers are equal?

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Date: 30/03/2026 19:45:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374897
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:

Anne Twomey answers a question I was wondering about a couple of days ago.

https://youtu.be/mY3D-YzXefA?si=XELewK7rIZrMWzT6
Who becomes Opposition Leader when Party numbers are equal?

who

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Date: 30/03/2026 19:46:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374898
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

roughbarked said:


so they didn’t have a plan 5 weeks ago and made one up on the run

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Date: 30/03/2026 19:49:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374899
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

maybe

Adelaide city councillor Henry Davis said businesses were already struggling because fewer people were coming into the CBD, which free public transport could help. “It’s going to make sure that people keep coming to the city, but it’s also going to relieve congestion, stress and then reduce the consumption of fuel across the state,” he said.

people just need to get over this “gotta get into the cbd” fetish sheesh

But the people who make the decisions are friends of the people who own the buildings and the businesses. They are worried that those owners might go to the poorhouse if people don’t use the facilities they have so generously provided.

if the average punter makes a bad investment and loses big it’s because they’re stupid and greedy and deserved it

if you’re worth $5000000000 already and invested in ecologically and sociologically unsound infrastructure which suddenly faces ecological and sociological consequences then nobody could have foreseen this and here’s another $5000000000 to keep going

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Date: 30/03/2026 19:53:18
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2374900
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:


so they didn’t have a plan 5 weeks ago and made one up on the run

Better than having a concept of a plan.

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Date: 30/03/2026 20:52:09
From: dv
ID: 2374932
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Anne Twomey answers a question I was wondering about a couple of days ago.

https://youtu.be/mY3D-YzXefA?si=XELewK7rIZrMWzT6
Who becomes Opposition Leader when Party numbers are equal?

who

If you mean who is Anne Twomey, she is among Australia’s foremost experts on constitutional law.

If you mean who becomes opposition leader, there’s no certain answer. The decision is not covered in Federal or State constitutions, and indeed the position of opposition leader is not even mentioned in those constitutions. It is a decision for the Speaker. Twomey runs through some previous cases. There is a precedent for the governing party to allow all non-government members of the lower house to have a ballot: this avoids the appearance of a government cynically choosing its own opposition.

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Date: 30/03/2026 23:16:34
From: dv
ID: 2374946
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Hastie’s omnidirectional attacks — most damagingly against Taylor — prove he’s a Liberal leader in-waiting

https://www.crikey.com.au/2026/03/30/andrew-hastie-liberal-leader-donald-trump-angus-taylor/

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Date: 31/03/2026 02:43:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2374951
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

ONP looks to get at least 3 seats in SA and lead in another. Now just to see if they implode like Palmer United/UAP in time to totally ruin their chances in Victoria come November.

The median length of time an elected ONP official remains with the ONP is 14 months.

However it might be different this time. They can very close to being the official opposition in South Australia, which would’ve provided a new range of perks.

They might well have a shot of this at the federal level.

what could the Germans have done

Played Bach. Drink beer. Listen to more Bach.

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Date: 31/03/2026 05:41:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 2374953
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Tau.Neutrino said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

The median length of time an elected ONP official remains with the ONP is 14 months.

However it might be different this time. They can very close to being the official opposition in South Australia, which would’ve provided a new range of perks.

They might well have a shot of this at the federal level.

what could the Germans have done

Played Bach. Drink beer. Listen to more Bach.

Are you sure it wasn’t Wagner?

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Date: 31/03/2026 07:01:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374957
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

turns out we know exactly how much credibility to give this economist then

Prices should have started edging back down but instead they started to rise again. It was the start of what Dr Jeffreys calls “an additional out-of-cycle hike”, which he says is an “unreasonable” reaction to global events.

LOL

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Date: 31/03/2026 08:24:48
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2374970
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Fantastic. Great move. Well done Geoff.

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Date: 31/03/2026 08:32:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2374971
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

JudgeMental said:


Fantastic. Great move. Well done Geoff.


fake

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Date: 31/03/2026 08:33:04
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2374972
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

JudgeMental said:


Fantastic. Great move. Well done Geoff.


Hah.

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Date: 31/03/2026 15:00:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2375065
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

sorry we’re too stupid to understand this by ourselves so we’re going to have to put this to yous economics experts here

The fuel crisis is putting pressure on workers who rely on car travel and those who meet with vulnerable clients, with fresh calls for frontline support staff to be exempt from possible fuel rationing mandates. There are also renewed calls for more employees to work from home, although experts say the crisis has not yet reached “tipping point”. It comes after the federal government introduced a national fuel security plan on Monday and announced it would halve the fuel excise for three months, starting on Wednesday.

if there’s going to be rationing to limit the amount of stuff any individual purchaser can get then how does dropping the price to allow purchasers to get more of the stuff for their dollar help with that

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Date: 31/03/2026 17:46:15
From: dv
ID: 2375130
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

JudgeMental said:


Fantastic. Great move. Well done Geoff.


Why are they so damned bad at this…

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Date: 31/03/2026 17:51:03
From: Cymek
ID: 2375131
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


JudgeMental said:

Fantastic. Great move. Well done Geoff.


Why are they so damned bad at this…

Who ?

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Date: 31/03/2026 17:54:19
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2375132
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


JudgeMental said:

Fantastic. Great move. Well done Geoff.


Why are they so damned bad at this…

too hellbent in owning those lefties to stop and think for a moment.

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Date: 31/03/2026 18:52:05
From: dv
ID: 2375142
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

JudgeMental said:


dv said:

JudgeMental said:

Fantastic. Great move. Well done Geoff.


Why are they so damned bad at this…

too hellbent in owning those lefties to stop and think for a moment.

Or maybe he’s telling the truth…

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Date: 31/03/2026 18:52:06
From: dv
ID: 2375143
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

JudgeMental said:


dv said:

JudgeMental said:

Fantastic. Great move. Well done Geoff.


Why are they so damned bad at this…

too hellbent in owning those lefties to stop and think for a moment.

Or maybe he’s telling the truth…

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Date: 31/03/2026 18:52:13
From: dv
ID: 2375144
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

JudgeMental said:


dv said:

JudgeMental said:

Fantastic. Great move. Well done Geoff.


Why are they so damned bad at this…

too hellbent in owning those lefties to stop and think for a moment.

Or maybe he’s telling the truth…

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Date: 31/03/2026 22:53:12
From: dv
ID: 2375191
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Hanson doing pretty well in the favourability.

Not so much in preferred PM.

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Date: 1/04/2026 07:24:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2375229
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


Hanson doing pretty well in the favourability.

Not so much in preferred PM.

I’m horrified by Hanson’s high favourable vote and Taylor’s low unfavourable vote.

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Date: 1/04/2026 09:34:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2375255
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Hanson doing pretty well in the favourability.

Not so much in preferred PM.

I’m horrified by Hanson’s high favourable vote and Taylor’s low unfavourable vote.

Team Sports Is Great Governance ¡

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Date: 1/04/2026 10:00:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2375262
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Speaking of Great Governance – a short video that Santos does not want shared

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Date: 2/04/2026 12:42:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2375731
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

Well at least Albo is trying to convince us that we are still the lucky country.

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Date: 2/04/2026 14:37:40
From: dv
ID: 2375771
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

The ABC experts have now announced all seats except Narungga.
This is now treated as a ONP vs Liberal head to head (subject to verification in the full distribution).
Currently, the ONP candidate is 77 votes ahead. It seems likely that the final margin will be under 100, and so a recount will be requested.

Assuming ONP does win this, then the final allocation will be ALP 34, Libs 5, ONP 4, Indies 4.

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I’m looking forward to the final distro for Finniss, as independent Lou Nicholson has indeed won after being fourth on the primaries. Seems he hoovered enough Greens, Animal Justice, and other Independent votes to get past Labor to be in the final three, then got most of Labor’s preferences as well to be leading at that stage. ONP was the next eliminated and most of their prefs also went to Nicholson, so he won with around 55% of the two-candidate-preferred vote versus Liberals. Noice.

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Pretty clear now that the eleven Leg Council members elected will be 5 ALP, 3 ONP, 2 Lib, 1 Green. The total LC then, combined with those elected in 2022, will be 10 ALP, 6 Lib, 3 ONP, 2 Green, 1 Sarah Game (former ONP).
ALP and Greens combine to a majority. This is an improvement, for them, as previously the ALP needed 1 more vote, meaning they had to negotiate with the sometimes pernickity SA-Best, Xenophon’s old crew. SA-Best has been eliminated.

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Date: 2/04/2026 18:46:09
From: dv
ID: 2375885
Subject: re: Australian politics - March 2026

dv said:


The ABC experts have now announced all seats except Narungga.
This is now treated as a ONP vs Liberal head to head (subject to verification in the full distribution).
Currently, the ONP candidate is 77 votes ahead. It seems likely that the final margin will be under 100, and so a recount will be requested.

Assuming ONP does win this, then the final allocation will be ALP 34, Libs 5, ONP 4, Indies 4.

—-

I’m looking forward to the final distro for Finniss, as independent Lou Nicholson has indeed won after being fourth on the primaries. Seems he hoovered enough Greens, Animal Justice, and other Independent votes to get past Labor to be in the final three, then got most of Labor’s preferences as well to be leading at that stage. ONP was the next eliminated and most of their prefs also went to Nicholson, so he won with around 55% of the two-candidate-preferred vote versus Liberals. Noice.

—-

Pretty clear now that the eleven Leg Council members elected will be 5 ALP, 3 ONP, 2 Lib, 1 Green. The total LC then, combined with those elected in 2022, will be 10 ALP, 6 Lib, 3 ONP, 2 Green, 1 Sarah Game (former ONP).
ALP and Greens combine to a majority. This is an improvement, for them, as previously the ALP needed 1 more vote, meaning they had to negotiate with the sometimes pernickity SA-Best, Xenophon’s old crew. SA-Best has been eliminated.

The Narungga recount has occurred and the win by ONP has been confirmed, with a margin of 58.

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