Date: 2/04/2026 20:24:54
From: Jing Joh
ID: 2375909
Subject: why are we still using pneumatic brakes in cars?
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Date: 2/04/2026 20:27:52
From: Jing Joh
ID: 2375910
Subject: re: why are we still using pneumatic brakes in cars?

errr pneumatic/hydraulic I meant

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Date: 2/04/2026 20:44:43
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2375912
Subject: re: why are we still using pneumatic brakes in cars?

Jing Joh said:


errr pneumatic/hydraulic I meant

Because it’s very reliable and works very well.

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Date: 2/04/2026 21:03:16
From: Michael V
ID: 2375924
Subject: re: why are we still using pneumatic brakes in cars?

Spiny Norman said:


Jing Joh said:

errr pneumatic/hydraulic I meant

Because it’s very reliable and works very well.

So much better than cables and rods, that’s for sure.

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Date: 2/04/2026 21:10:40
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2375929
Subject: re: why are we still using pneumatic brakes in cars?

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

Jing Joh said:

errr pneumatic/hydraulic I meant

Because it’s very reliable and works very well.

So much better than cables and rods, that’s for sure.

Oh yeah. I could never really get used to the brakes on karts, no feel for me.

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Date: 2/04/2026 21:46:02
From: Kingy
ID: 2375952
Subject: re: why are we still using pneumatic brakes in cars?

Spiny Norman said:


Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Because it’s very reliable and works very well.

So much better than cables and rods, that’s for sure.

Oh yeah. I could never really get used to the brakes on karts, no feel for me.

There was something wrong with your kart then.

The brakes on race karts are very much touchy-feely.

I once had a go in a kart that some genius had sprayed CRC onto the brake disk. It was like an on&off switch. You either had no brakes or the rear were locked up.

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Date: 2/04/2026 21:51:22
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2375960
Subject: re: why are we still using pneumatic brakes in cars?

Kingy said:


Spiny Norman said:

Michael V said:

So much better than cables and rods, that’s for sure.

Oh yeah. I could never really get used to the brakes on karts, no feel for me.

There was something wrong with your kart then.

The brakes on race karts are very much touchy-feely.

I once had a go in a kart that some genius had sprayed CRC onto the brake disk. It was like an on&off switch. You either had no brakes or the rear were locked up.

I’ve really only driven kart-track rental karts and so not exactly in the best condition. I did drive one once that was much better – It had a two-speed box in it, you’d just move a small lever and you’d go up or down in gearing. Epicyclic gears I think.
But, as you know I’m not exactly built for tiny little cars.
FWIW on my old racing car, the brake pedal moved about 6mm then went solid, no real movement after that. It ended up being just fine for controlling the stops.

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Date: 2/04/2026 21:57:49
From: Kingy
ID: 2375964
Subject: re: why are we still using pneumatic brakes in cars?

Spiny Norman said:


Kingy said:

Spiny Norman said:

Oh yeah. I could never really get used to the brakes on karts, no feel for me.

There was something wrong with your kart then.

The brakes on race karts are very much touchy-feely.

I once had a go in a kart that some genius had sprayed CRC onto the brake disk. It was like an on&off switch. You either had no brakes or the rear were locked up.

I’ve really only driven kart-track rental karts and so not exactly in the best condition. I did drive one once that was much better – It had a two-speed box in it, you’d just move a small lever and you’d go up or down in gearing. Epicyclic gears I think.
But, as you know I’m not exactly built for tiny little cars.
FWIW on my old racing car, the brake pedal moved about 6mm then went solid, no real movement after that. It ended up being just fine for controlling the stops.

You would like a proper race kart. They don’t have the horsepower, but they do have the added lightness. And no suspension, just to damage your spine.

But fast as fuck when your arse is scraping the bitumen.

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Date: 2/04/2026 22:01:39
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2375967
Subject: re: why are we still using pneumatic brakes in cars?

Kingy said:


Spiny Norman said:

Kingy said:

There was something wrong with your kart then.

The brakes on race karts are very much touchy-feely.

I once had a go in a kart that some genius had sprayed CRC onto the brake disk. It was like an on&off switch. You either had no brakes or the rear were locked up.

I’ve really only driven kart-track rental karts and so not exactly in the best condition. I did drive one once that was much better – It had a two-speed box in it, you’d just move a small lever and you’d go up or down in gearing. Epicyclic gears I think.
But, as you know I’m not exactly built for tiny little cars.
FWIW on my old racing car, the brake pedal moved about 6mm then went solid, no real movement after that. It ended up being just fine for controlling the stops.

You would like a proper race kart. They don’t have the horsepower, but they do have the added lightness. And no suspension, just to damage your spine.

But fast as fuck when your arse is scraping the bitumen.

Oh yeah!
Mind you my rear end in the old car was probably about 70 – 80 mm off the ground. The front of the chassis was about 45mm I think, then there was a bit of rake to help the aero downforce so my bum was higher. The seat cushion when pretty flat when I sat on it.

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Date: 2/04/2026 23:03:48
From: transition
ID: 2375988
Subject: re: why are we still using pneumatic brakes in cars?

you can leave a bit of air in the lines, makes them pneumatic-hydraulic, not that fashionable but why not give it go, you can adjust the amount of air in the lines depending how spongy you want it, possibly a big advantage might be increased longevity of brake pads and discs or hubs, because you have reduced friction, and we all know friction wears things out, so yeah you’re half way to appreciating low-friction brakes. Saves on tyre wear also.

just so happens I am salesman for air to go in brakes, our marketing department came up with the perfect name for it, wait for it…brake air….yeah, made special for the job, we’re the world leading manufacturers and distributors of brake air, we also make super pure air for the brake air, for high fidelity braking.

it’s all win win with brake air, i’ve never had a customer come back with complaints, not one.

we also sell brake fluid to go with our highest quality brake air, the best quality available, optimized for compatibility.

being silly there.

hydraulic brakes and very reliable, and you can feel the pressure applied reliably.

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Date: 3/04/2026 01:57:16
From: dv
ID: 2375994
Subject: re: why are we still using pneumatic brakes in cars?

Let me put it this way, what method do you prefer, Jing Joh?

BTW nice to see ya, to see ya, nice.

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