Date: 14/04/2026 08:53:45
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2380288
Subject: Battery chemistry

You read about a lot of new battery chemistries that promise various advantages. Faster charging, energy density, safer, price etc.

which ones hold the most promise?

I’m thinking for transport rather than for grid applications.

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Date: 14/04/2026 09:01:00
From: dv
ID: 2380291
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

I don’t have any special insights.

I’ll be interested to see how sodium ion goes.

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Date: 14/04/2026 09:03:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 2380294
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

Bogsnorkler said:


You read about a lot of new battery chemistries that promise various advantages. Faster charging, energy density, safer, price etc.

which ones hold the most promise?

I’m thinking for transport rather than for grid applications.

Weight is a big primary concern.

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Date: 14/04/2026 09:05:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2380295
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

You read about a lot of new battery chemistries that promise various advantages. Faster charging, energy density, safer, price etc.

which ones hold the most promise?

I’m thinking for transport rather than for grid applications.

Weight is a big primary concern.

so keep them in outer space

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Date: 14/04/2026 09:07:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 2380297
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

You read about a lot of new battery chemistries that promise various advantages. Faster charging, energy density, safer, price etc.

which ones hold the most promise?

I’m thinking for transport rather than for grid applications.

Weight is a big primary concern.

so keep them in outer space

Now there’s a thought. We have one of those. It is nown as Sol.

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Date: 14/04/2026 10:21:31
From: Ian
ID: 2380331
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

Bogsnorkler said:


You read about a lot of new battery chemistries that promise various advantages. Faster charging, energy density, safer, price etc.

which ones hold the most promise?

I’m thinking for transport rather than for grid applications.

Swappable batteries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TYokZ1XOGI

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Date: 14/04/2026 10:22:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2380332
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

Ian said:

Bogsnorkler said:

You read about a lot of new battery chemistries that promise various advantages. Faster charging, energy density, safer, price etc.

which ones hold the most promise?

I’m thinking for transport rather than for grid applications.

Swappable batteries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TYokZ1XOGI

we mean people have been swapping AA and AAA and C and D and 9 V batteries for decades it’s kind of hilarious that they sell these things as a new concept

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Date: 14/04/2026 10:38:51
From: Cymek
ID: 2380336
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

I asked a question the other week (I think so anyway)

Do batteries have an upper limit to what they can store and not actually be hugely unstable.
I’d assume it likely depends on what we discover and create into the future.
Science fiction has hand held devices that going by their destructive capabilities must hold many megawatts of power
Wondering if its even possible without violating the laws of physics

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Date: 14/04/2026 10:44:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2380338
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

Cymek said:


I asked a question the other week (I think so anyway)

Do batteries have an upper limit to what they can store and not actually be hugely unstable.
I’d assume it likely depends on what we discover and create into the future.
Science fiction has hand held devices that going by their destructive capabilities must hold many megawatts of power
Wondering if its even possible without violating the laws of physics

uh yes¿ Isn’t that why they have labels saying do not over charge

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Date: 14/04/2026 10:45:46
From: Ian
ID: 2380339
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

Cymek said:


I asked a question the other week (I think so anyway)

Do batteries have an upper limit to what they can store and not actually be hugely unstable.
I’d assume it likely depends on what we discover and create into the future.
Science fiction has hand held devices that going by their destructive capabilities must hold many megawatts of power
Wondering if its even possible without violating the laws of physics

Google..

The theoretical maximum energy density for a rechargeable lithium-ion battery is roughly 400–500 Wh/kg.

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Date: 14/04/2026 10:59:54
From: Ian
ID: 2380345
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

In the local news today… increasing number of fire at waste facilities bc batteries.

The excavator operator who was working here said he had to leave to deal with a “hot load” from a garbage truck.. happens more and more often. Truck load starts burning and they just dump it quick..
He reckoned vapes are a big worry.

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Date: 14/04/2026 11:01:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2380347
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

Ian said:

In the local news today… increasing number of fire at waste facilities bc batteries.

The excavator operator who was working here said he had to leave to deal with a “hot load” from a garbage truck.. happens more and more often. Truck load starts burning and they just dump it quick..
He reckoned vapes are a big worry.

oh c’m‘on blaming poor drug addicts is poor form, everyone knows it’s the rich pricks laughing away in their electric vehicles who are causing the fire problem

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Date: 14/04/2026 11:01:51
From: dv
ID: 2380348
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

In reality I would not be surprised that Li-ion remains the most common batt type, 20 or 30 years from now.

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Date: 14/04/2026 11:03:50
From: Ian
ID: 2380350
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

SCIENCE said:

Ian said:

In the local news today… increasing number of fire at waste facilities bc batteries.

The excavator operator who was working here said he had to leave to deal with a “hot load” from a garbage truck.. happens more and more often. Truck load starts burning and they just dump it quick..
He reckoned vapes are a big worry.

oh c’m‘on blaming poor drug addicts is poor form, everyone knows it’s the rich pricks laughing away in their electric vehicles who are causing the fire problem

No

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Date: 14/04/2026 11:22:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 2380351
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

Ian said:


In the local news today… increasing number of fire at waste facilities bc batteries.

The excavator operator who was working here said he had to leave to deal with a “hot load” from a garbage truck.. happens more and more often. Truck load starts burning and they just dump it quick..
He reckoned vapes are a big worry.

Anything with a lithium battery.

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Date: 14/04/2026 11:27:51
From: Cymek
ID: 2380352
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

roughbarked said:


Ian said:

In the local news today… increasing number of fire at waste facilities bc batteries.

The excavator operator who was working here said he had to leave to deal with a “hot load” from a garbage truck.. happens more and more often. Truck load starts burning and they just dump it quick..
He reckoned vapes are a big worry.

Anything with a lithium battery.

They could be quite a danger if you set fire to a truck full of them

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Date: 14/04/2026 11:31:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 2380356
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Ian said:

In the local news today… increasing number of fire at waste facilities bc batteries.

The excavator operator who was working here said he had to leave to deal with a “hot load” from a garbage truck.. happens more and more often. Truck load starts burning and they just dump it quick..
He reckoned vapes are a big worry.

Anything with a lithium battery.

They could be quite a danger if you set fire to a truck full of them

Just outside bunnings locally a garbage truck dumped its load beside the road and blokes in chem suits were attacking it.

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Date: 14/04/2026 11:40:55
From: Cymek
ID: 2380363
Subject: re: Battery chemistry

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Anything with a lithium battery.

They could be quite a danger if you set fire to a truck full of them

Just outside bunnings locally a garbage truck dumped its load beside the road and blokes in chem suits were attacking it.

I was wondering if they are considered a potential terrorist weapon

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