Date: 1/06/2026 17:30:32
From: dv
ID: 2397165
Subject: Australian politics - June 2026

Dr Kevin Bonham has updated his aggregate 2pp averages including the most recent polls.

They indicate that things have tightened for the ALP, and that ONP is doing a bit better than LNP.

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Date: 2/06/2026 00:18:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2397242
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

no

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Date: 2/06/2026 11:00:26
From: dv
ID: 2397327
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

I can honestly say that my concerns about a potential PM Hanson do not relate to her age or any decline in faculties. She’ll be 74, or well nigh, at the time of the next election.

It’s kind of remarkable how consistently young Australian PMs have been, though.
The oldest PM when first sworn in was McEwen, who was 67 but he was only briefly in the position following the disappearance of Holt while the Libs chose a leader. Excluding temps, the oldest was McMahon, who was 63.

The oldest someone has been while in office was Menzies, who was 71 at the end of his final term.

Of our 31 PMs, 7 were in their 40s when first taking the office.

2 where in their 30s.

The median age on entering the office is 53. Mere babes.

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Date: 2/06/2026 11:01:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 2397330
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


I can honestly say that my concerns about a potential PM Hanson do not relate to her age or any decline in faculties. She’ll be 74, or well nigh, at the time of the next election.

It’s kind of remarkable how consistently young Australian PMs have been, though.
The oldest PM when first sworn in was McEwen, who was 67 but he was only briefly in the position following the disappearance of Holt while the Libs chose a leader. Excluding temps, the oldest was McMahon, who was 63.

The oldest someone has been while in office was Menzies, who was 71 at the end of his final term.

Of our 31 PMs, 7 were in their 40s when first taking the office.

2 where in their 30s.

The median age on entering the office is 53. Mere babes.

Old or not, lead? um nah.

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Date: 2/06/2026 11:05:00
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2397332
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


dv said:

I can honestly say that my concerns about a potential PM Hanson do not relate to her age or any decline in faculties. She’ll be 74, or well nigh, at the time of the next election.

It’s kind of remarkable how consistently young Australian PMs have been, though.
The oldest PM when first sworn in was McEwen, who was 67 but he was only briefly in the position following the disappearance of Holt while the Libs chose a leader. Excluding temps, the oldest was McMahon, who was 63.

The oldest someone has been while in office was Menzies, who was 71 at the end of his final term.

Of our 31 PMs, 7 were in their 40s when first taking the office.

2 where in their 30s.

The median age on entering the office is 53. Mere babes.

Old or not, lead? um nah.

Her Svengali James Ashby is possibly now one of the most consequential individuals in Australian politics. I wonder how much sway he has over Barnaby.

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Date: 2/06/2026 11:05:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2397334
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


I can honestly say that my concerns about a potential PM Hanson do not relate to her age or any decline in faculties. She’ll be 74, or well nigh, at the time of the next election.

It’s kind of remarkable how consistently young Australian PMs have been, though.
The oldest PM when first sworn in was McEwen, who was 67 but he was only briefly in the position following the disappearance of Holt while the Libs chose a leader. Excluding temps, the oldest was McMahon, who was 63.

The oldest someone has been while in office was Menzies, who was 71 at the end of his final term.

Of our 31 PMs, 7 were in their 40s when first taking the office.

2 where in their 30s.

The median age on entering the office is 53. Mere babes.

it’s distraction

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Date: 2/06/2026 11:09:51
From: Cymek
ID: 2397338
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:


dv said:

I can honestly say that my concerns about a potential PM Hanson do not relate to her age or any decline in faculties. She’ll be 74, or well nigh, at the time of the next election.

It’s kind of remarkable how consistently young Australian PMs have been, though.
The oldest PM when first sworn in was McEwen, who was 67 but he was only briefly in the position following the disappearance of Holt while the Libs chose a leader. Excluding temps, the oldest was McMahon, who was 63.

The oldest someone has been while in office was Menzies, who was 71 at the end of his final term.

Of our 31 PMs, 7 were in their 40s when first taking the office.

2 where in their 30s.

The median age on entering the office is 53. Mere babes.

it’s distraction

She’ll become PM and form her own version of ICE

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Date: 2/06/2026 11:15:21
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2397341
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

I can honestly say that my concerns about a potential PM Hanson do not relate to her age or any decline in faculties. She’ll be 74, or well nigh, at the time of the next election.

It’s kind of remarkable how consistently young Australian PMs have been, though.
The oldest PM when first sworn in was McEwen, who was 67 but he was only briefly in the position following the disappearance of Holt while the Libs chose a leader. Excluding temps, the oldest was McMahon, who was 63.

The oldest someone has been while in office was Menzies, who was 71 at the end of his final term.

Of our 31 PMs, 7 were in their 40s when first taking the office.

2 where in their 30s.

The median age on entering the office is 53. Mere babes.

Old or not, lead? um nah.

Her Svengali James Ashby is possibly now one of the most consequential individuals in Australian politics. I wonder how much sway he has over Barnaby.

I’m pretty sure Trilby will never be PM

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Date: 2/06/2026 12:19:40
From: Michael V
ID: 2397362
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


I can honestly say that my concerns about a potential PM Hanson do not relate to her age or any decline in faculties. She’ll be 74, or well nigh, at the time of the next election.

It’s kind of remarkable how consistently young Australian PMs have been, though.
The oldest PM when first sworn in was McEwen, who was 67 but he was only briefly in the position following the disappearance of Holt while the Libs chose a leader. Excluding temps, the oldest was McMahon, who was 63.

The oldest someone has been while in office was Menzies, who was 71 at the end of his final term.

Of our 31 PMs, 7 were in their 40s when first taking the office.

2 where in their 30s.

The median age on entering the office is 53. Mere babes.

But, can she be PM whilst in the Senate?

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Date: 2/06/2026 12:20:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2397364
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

while the fascists are getting air time

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-02/minimum-wage-increase-june-2026-australia/106746542

nobody will thank the workers’ parties

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Date: 2/06/2026 12:58:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2397379
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

LOL

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Date: 2/06/2026 13:16:02
From: dv
ID: 2397386
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Peak Warming Man said:


LOL

I did feel bad for him after Rudd threw him under the bus.

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Date: 2/06/2026 13:17:21
From: dv
ID: 2397388
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


dv said:

I can honestly say that my concerns about a potential PM Hanson do not relate to her age or any decline in faculties. She’ll be 74, or well nigh, at the time of the next election.

It’s kind of remarkable how consistently young Australian PMs have been, though.
The oldest PM when first sworn in was McEwen, who was 67 but he was only briefly in the position following the disappearance of Holt while the Libs chose a leader. Excluding temps, the oldest was McMahon, who was 63.

The oldest someone has been while in office was Menzies, who was 71 at the end of his final term.

Of our 31 PMs, 7 were in their 40s when first taking the office.

2 where in their 30s.

The median age on entering the office is 53. Mere babes.

But, can she be PM whilst in the Senate?

She can become PM while in the Senate, as Gorton did, but she would have a limited time to secure a House seat. A resignation and by election would need to be held.

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Date: 2/06/2026 13:19:58
From: Cymek
ID: 2397389
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

LOL

I did feel bad for him after Rudd threw him under the bus.

What a mess the AUKUS pact is
Seems Australia loses out no matter what
Should demand the US pays us the payment for compensation we sent France.

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Date: 2/06/2026 13:20:44
From: Cymek
ID: 2397390
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

I can honestly say that my concerns about a potential PM Hanson do not relate to her age or any decline in faculties. She’ll be 74, or well nigh, at the time of the next election.

It’s kind of remarkable how consistently young Australian PMs have been, though.
The oldest PM when first sworn in was McEwen, who was 67 but he was only briefly in the position following the disappearance of Holt while the Libs chose a leader. Excluding temps, the oldest was McMahon, who was 63.

The oldest someone has been while in office was Menzies, who was 71 at the end of his final term.

Of our 31 PMs, 7 were in their 40s when first taking the office.

2 where in their 30s.

The median age on entering the office is 53. Mere babes.

But, can she be PM whilst in the Senate?

She can become PM while in the Senate, as Gorton did, but she would have a limited time to secure a House seat. A resignation and by election would need to be held.

Would she don a Kylo Ren type mask I wonder

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Date: 2/06/2026 13:38:45
From: Michael V
ID: 2397399
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

I can honestly say that my concerns about a potential PM Hanson do not relate to her age or any decline in faculties. She’ll be 74, or well nigh, at the time of the next election.

It’s kind of remarkable how consistently young Australian PMs have been, though.
The oldest PM when first sworn in was McEwen, who was 67 but he was only briefly in the position following the disappearance of Holt while the Libs chose a leader. Excluding temps, the oldest was McMahon, who was 63.

The oldest someone has been while in office was Menzies, who was 71 at the end of his final term.

Of our 31 PMs, 7 were in their 40s when first taking the office.

2 where in their 30s.

The median age on entering the office is 53. Mere babes.

But, can she be PM whilst in the Senate?

She can become PM while in the Senate, as Gorton did, but she would have a limited time to secure a House seat. A resignation and by election would need to be held.

That could escalate to party infighting quickly. Asking a brand new shiny HOR MP to go away could be fraught.

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Date: 2/06/2026 14:09:20
From: dv
ID: 2397412
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

But, can she be PM whilst in the Senate?

She can become PM while in the Senate, as Gorton did, but she would have a limited time to secure a House seat. A resignation and by election would need to be held.

That could escalate to party infighting quickly. Asking a brand new shiny HOR MP to go away could be fraught.

They could arrange a straight swap. The displaced person can be PH’s replacement in the Senate.

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Date: 2/06/2026 14:11:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2397413
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

She can become PM while in the Senate, as Gorton did, but she would have a limited time to secure a House seat. A resignation and by election would need to be held.

That could escalate to party infighting quickly. Asking a brand new shiny HOR MP to go away could be fraught.

They could arrange a straight swap. The displaced person can be PH’s replacement in the Senate.

Let’s hope this nightmare never comes to pass, regardless of the details.

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Date: 2/06/2026 14:17:51
From: Cymek
ID: 2397414
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

That could escalate to party infighting quickly. Asking a brand new shiny HOR MP to go away could be fraught.

They could arrange a straight swap. The displaced person can be PH’s replacement in the Senate.

Let’s hope this nightmare never comes to pass, regardless of the details.

Life just needs to become harder and more difficult regardless of why and it could easily happen.
People will repeat history and blame the marginalised for the hardships and a politician who promotes fascism could easily become a leader.

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Date: 2/06/2026 14:24:28
From: dv
ID: 2397419
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

That could escalate to party infighting quickly. Asking a brand new shiny HOR MP to go away could be fraught.

They could arrange a straight swap. The displaced person can be PH’s replacement in the Senate.

Let’s hope this nightmare never comes to pass, regardless of the details.

Quite.

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Date: 2/06/2026 14:50:45
From: Michael V
ID: 2397422
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

She can become PM while in the Senate, as Gorton did, but she would have a limited time to secure a House seat. A resignation and by election would need to be held.

That could escalate to party infighting quickly. Asking a brand new shiny HOR MP to go away could be fraught.

They could arrange a straight swap. The displaced person can be PH’s replacement in the Senate.

I thought that that might be possible.

I’m not sure I could cope with the notion of PH running the country.

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Date: 2/06/2026 14:55:09
From: ms spock
ID: 2397424
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Pauline Hanson is coming for abortions

I have been watching the language creep from the US.

Most concerning.

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Date: 2/06/2026 15:20:56
From: ms spock
ID: 2397438
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

I can honestly say that my concerns about a potential PM Hanson do not relate to her age or any decline in faculties. She’ll be 74, or well nigh, at the time of the next election.

It’s kind of remarkable how consistently young Australian PMs have been, though.
The oldest PM when first sworn in was McEwen, who was 67 but he was only briefly in the position following the disappearance of Holt while the Libs chose a leader. Excluding temps, the oldest was McMahon, who was 63.

The oldest someone has been while in office was Menzies, who was 71 at the end of his final term.

Of our 31 PMs, 7 were in their 40s when first taking the office.

2 where in their 30s.

The median age on entering the office is 53. Mere babes.

it’s distraction

She’ll become PM and form her own version of ICE

I think when you read the “Royal Commission on Aboriginal Deaths in Custody,” we have an ICE. We always have had an ICE operating in Australia.

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Date: 2/06/2026 15:29:14
From: Cymek
ID: 2397442
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

it’s distraction

She’ll become PM and form her own version of ICE

I think when you read the “Royal Commission on Aboriginal Deaths in Custody,” we have an ICE. We always have had an ICE operating in Australia.

What’s really scary is you have every day citizens who would willingly join our version of ICE just to have immunity from murdering people deemed unworthy of living here.

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Date: 2/06/2026 15:44:23
From: buffy
ID: 2397449
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

She can become PM while in the Senate, as Gorton did, but she would have a limited time to secure a House seat. A resignation and by election would need to be held.

That could escalate to party infighting quickly. Asking a brand new shiny HOR MP to go away could be fraught.

They could arrange a straight swap. The displaced person can be PH’s replacement in the Senate.

Can that be done though?

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Date: 2/06/2026 16:03:16
From: ms spock
ID: 2397458
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Cymek said:

She’ll become PM and form her own version of ICE

I think when you read the “Royal Commission on Aboriginal Deaths in Custody,” we have an ICE. We always have had an ICE operating in Australia.

What’s really scary is you have every day citizens who would willingly join our version of ICE just to have immunity from murdering people deemed unworthy of living here.

That is scary Cymek.

Every day citizens who have their amygdalas hijacked by algorithms are scary indeed.

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Date: 2/06/2026 16:45:15
From: Michael V
ID: 2397468
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

buffy said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

That could escalate to party infighting quickly. Asking a brand new shiny HOR MP to go away could be fraught.

They could arrange a straight swap. The displaced person can be PH’s replacement in the Senate.

Can that be done though?

Sort of. PH resigns senate. New MP resigns HOR. By-election held. PH wins. Appoints former HOR MP to Senate, to replace the PHON resignation (PH).

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Date: 2/06/2026 17:14:10
From: dv
ID: 2397484
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

That could escalate to party infighting quickly. Asking a brand new shiny HOR MP to go away could be fraught.

They could arrange a straight swap. The displaced person can be PH’s replacement in the Senate.

I thought that that might be possible.

I’m not sure I could cope with the notion of PH running the country.

Hand on heart I don’t think that’s going to happen.

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Date: 2/06/2026 18:06:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 2397498
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

They could arrange a straight swap. The displaced person can be PH’s replacement in the Senate.

I thought that that might be possible.

I’m not sure I could cope with the notion of PH running the country.

Hand on heart I don’t think that’s going to happen.

Mrs rb doesn’t want to know about Pauline Hanson.

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Date: 2/06/2026 18:52:30
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2397517
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Hormuz crisis is bigger than fuel prices — here’s what’s actually coming for Australian households in the next six months.

Most coverage of the Strait of Hormuz crisis has focused on petrol prices. That’s understandable — it’s visible, immediate, and hits every household directly. But the fuel story is actually the easiest part of what’s coming. The harder parts are slower, less visible, and will hit Australian households harder and for longer.

Here’s what the research and mainstream reporting actually shows, broken down by category.

Fuel — already here, partially managed and visible

Australia has tapped its strategic reserves and halved the fuel excise for three months. The government has confirmed some shipments were cancelled or deferred — Energy Minister Chris Bowen confirmed six ships carrying fuel bound for Australia were affected by late March. The government position is that supplies remain adequate for now. The three-month excise cut expires at the end of June.

Sources: NRMA fuel tracker (updated regularly) — mynrma.com.au | ABC ministerial interview — ministers.dfat.gov.au

Fertiliser — the crisis most people haven’t noticed yet

This is where it gets interesting. Australia is entirely reliant on overseas supply for urea, one of the most critical inputs for cropping. Around two-thirds of our nitrogen fertiliser imports come from the Middle East. Even alternative supplies from Asia partially depend on Middle Eastern ammonia and gas.

Commonwealth Bank’s agribusiness team published an analysis on April 29 that is worth reading in full. The key line: urea prices have effectively doubled since the start of the conflict, and availability is now becoming as much of an issue as price. Farmers gearing up for winter planting are being forced to ration fertiliser applications. CBA economists estimate that in severe scenarios, 2026-27 agricultural output could fall by 25-30%.

50% of Australian vegetable growers are already reporting looming fertiliser shortages. AUSVEG’s chief executive warned: “Access to reliable fertiliser supply is crucial to ensuring Australian vegetable growers can continue supplying Australian families with food.”

The government has secured a major fertiliser delivery and says supplies are adequate for the coming months. But winter crop planting decisions are being made right now, under uncertainty, with reduced inputs. Those decisions will determine what’s on supermarket shelves by spring.

Sources: Commonwealth Bank Newsroom, April 2026 — commbank.com.au | SBS News, April 2026 — sbs.com.au | ASPI Strategist, March 2026 — aspistrategist.org.au

More – https://www.reddit.com/r/OZPreppers/comments/1tuddr8/the_hormuz_crisis_is_bigger_than_fuel_prices/

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Date: 2/06/2026 18:55:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 2397521
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Spiny Norman said:


The Hormuz crisis is bigger than fuel prices — here’s what’s actually coming for Australian households in the next six months.

Most coverage of the Strait of Hormuz crisis has focused on petrol prices. That’s understandable — it’s visible, immediate, and hits every household directly. But the fuel story is actually the easiest part of what’s coming. The harder parts are slower, less visible, and will hit Australian households harder and for longer.

Here’s what the research and mainstream reporting actually shows, broken down by category.

Fuel — already here, partially managed and visible

Australia has tapped its strategic reserves and halved the fuel excise for three months. The government has confirmed some shipments were cancelled or deferred — Energy Minister Chris Bowen confirmed six ships carrying fuel bound for Australia were affected by late March. The government position is that supplies remain adequate for now. The three-month excise cut expires at the end of June.

Sources: NRMA fuel tracker (updated regularly) — mynrma.com.au | ABC ministerial interview — ministers.dfat.gov.au

Fertiliser — the crisis most people haven’t noticed yet

This is where it gets interesting. Australia is entirely reliant on overseas supply for urea, one of the most critical inputs for cropping. Around two-thirds of our nitrogen fertiliser imports come from the Middle East. Even alternative supplies from Asia partially depend on Middle Eastern ammonia and gas.

Commonwealth Bank’s agribusiness team published an analysis on April 29 that is worth reading in full. The key line: urea prices have effectively doubled since the start of the conflict, and availability is now becoming as much of an issue as price. Farmers gearing up for winter planting are being forced to ration fertiliser applications. CBA economists estimate that in severe scenarios, 2026-27 agricultural output could fall by 25-30%.

50% of Australian vegetable growers are already reporting looming fertiliser shortages. AUSVEG’s chief executive warned: “Access to reliable fertiliser supply is crucial to ensuring Australian vegetable growers can continue supplying Australian families with food.”

The government has secured a major fertiliser delivery and says supplies are adequate for the coming months. But winter crop planting decisions are being made right now, under uncertainty, with reduced inputs. Those decisions will determine what’s on supermarket shelves by spring.

Sources: Commonwealth Bank Newsroom, April 2026 — commbank.com.au | SBS News, April 2026 — sbs.com.au | ASPI Strategist, March 2026 — aspistrategist.org.au

More – https://www.reddit.com/r/OZPreppers/comments/1tuddr8/the_hormuz_crisis_is_bigger_than_fuel_prices/

We could try making our own urea.

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Date: 2/06/2026 19:06:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 2397528
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

An attempt by state MP Robbie Katter to dodge a parliamentary ban on abortion debate has been defeated by 85 votes to 2, with the two votes coming from two KAP MPs. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-02/katters-australian-party-abortion-drug-debate-crisafulli/106750096

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Date: 2/06/2026 19:31:40
From: party_pants
ID: 2397533
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Spiny Norman said:

The Hormuz crisis is bigger than fuel prices — here’s what’s actually coming for Australian households in the next six months.

Most coverage of the Strait of Hormuz crisis has focused on petrol prices. That’s understandable — it’s visible, immediate, and hits every household directly. But the fuel story is actually the easiest part of what’s coming. The harder parts are slower, less visible, and will hit Australian households harder and for longer.

Here’s what the research and mainstream reporting actually shows, broken down by category.

Fuel — already here, partially managed and visible

Australia has tapped its strategic reserves and halved the fuel excise for three months. The government has confirmed some shipments were cancelled or deferred — Energy Minister Chris Bowen confirmed six ships carrying fuel bound for Australia were affected by late March. The government position is that supplies remain adequate for now. The three-month excise cut expires at the end of June.

Sources: NRMA fuel tracker (updated regularly) — mynrma.com.au | ABC ministerial interview — ministers.dfat.gov.au

Fertiliser — the crisis most people haven’t noticed yet

This is where it gets interesting. Australia is entirely reliant on overseas supply for urea, one of the most critical inputs for cropping. Around two-thirds of our nitrogen fertiliser imports come from the Middle East. Even alternative supplies from Asia partially depend on Middle Eastern ammonia and gas.

Commonwealth Bank’s agribusiness team published an analysis on April 29 that is worth reading in full. The key line: urea prices have effectively doubled since the start of the conflict, and availability is now becoming as much of an issue as price. Farmers gearing up for winter planting are being forced to ration fertiliser applications. CBA economists estimate that in severe scenarios, 2026-27 agricultural output could fall by 25-30%.

50% of Australian vegetable growers are already reporting looming fertiliser shortages. AUSVEG’s chief executive warned: “Access to reliable fertiliser supply is crucial to ensuring Australian vegetable growers can continue supplying Australian families with food.”

The government has secured a major fertiliser delivery and says supplies are adequate for the coming months. But winter crop planting decisions are being made right now, under uncertainty, with reduced inputs. Those decisions will determine what’s on supermarket shelves by spring.

Sources: Commonwealth Bank Newsroom, April 2026 — commbank.com.au | SBS News, April 2026 — sbs.com.au | ASPI Strategist, March 2026 — aspistrategist.org.au

More – https://www.reddit.com/r/OZPreppers/comments/1tuddr8/the_hormuz_crisis_is_bigger_than_fuel_prices/

We could try making our own urea.

There is such as plant under construction in the Burrup in WA. Due for completion in early 2027 and hopefully full production by the middle of the the year.

It’s on the way.

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Date: 2/06/2026 20:29:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2397540
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ah well we remember when virtually all chemical shortage problems can be solved as energy problems so if we’d gone overcapacity renewable earlier this wouldn’t even be an issue worth mentioning

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Date: 2/06/2026 21:18:06
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2397544
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Read this a week or so ago. What is “utility scale quantum computing project” code for?

“City of Moreton Bay will become home to PsiQuantum’s Australian utility-scale quantum computing project, positioning the city at the forefront of advanced technology, research and future industries.

PsiQuantum will establish its Asia-Pacific headquarters, and build its utility-scale quantum computer, at Moreton Bay Central in Petrie, anchoring the company at one of Queensland’s emerging hubs for advanced manufacturing, technology, and education.”

https://www.moretonbay.qld.gov.au/News/Media/City-of-Moreton-Bay-welcomes-utility-scale-quantum-computing-project

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Date: 2/06/2026 21:35:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2397545
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:

Read this a week or so ago. What is “utility scale quantum computing project” code for?

“City of Moreton Bay will become home to PsiQuantum’s Australian utility-scale quantum computing project, positioning the city at the forefront of advanced technology, research and future industries.

PsiQuantum will establish its Asia-Pacific headquarters, and build its utility-scale quantum computer, at Moreton Bay Central in Petrie, anchoring the company at one of Queensland’s emerging hubs for advanced manufacturing, technology, and education.”

https://www.moretonbay.qld.gov.au/News/Media/City-of-Moreton-Bay-welcomes-utility-scale-quantum-computing-project

$$$

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Date: 2/06/2026 21:44:35
From: dv
ID: 2397547
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Spiny Norman said:

The Hormuz crisis is bigger than fuel prices — here’s what’s actually coming for Australian households in the next six months.

Most coverage of the Strait of Hormuz crisis has focused on petrol prices. That’s understandable — it’s visible, immediate, and hits every household directly. But the fuel story is actually the easiest part of what’s coming. The harder parts are slower, less visible, and will hit Australian households harder and for longer.

Here’s what the research and mainstream reporting actually shows, broken down by category.

Fuel — already here, partially managed and visible

Australia has tapped its strategic reserves and halved the fuel excise for three months. The government has confirmed some shipments were cancelled or deferred — Energy Minister Chris Bowen confirmed six ships carrying fuel bound for Australia were affected by late March. The government position is that supplies remain adequate for now. The three-month excise cut expires at the end of June.

Sources: NRMA fuel tracker (updated regularly) — mynrma.com.au | ABC ministerial interview — ministers.dfat.gov.au

Fertiliser — the crisis most people haven’t noticed yet

This is where it gets interesting. Australia is entirely reliant on overseas supply for urea, one of the most critical inputs for cropping. Around two-thirds of our nitrogen fertiliser imports come from the Middle East. Even alternative supplies from Asia partially depend on Middle Eastern ammonia and gas.

Commonwealth Bank’s agribusiness team published an analysis on April 29 that is worth reading in full. The key line: urea prices have effectively doubled since the start of the conflict, and availability is now becoming as much of an issue as price. Farmers gearing up for winter planting are being forced to ration fertiliser applications. CBA economists estimate that in severe scenarios, 2026-27 agricultural output could fall by 25-30%.

50% of Australian vegetable growers are already reporting looming fertiliser shortages. AUSVEG’s chief executive warned: “Access to reliable fertiliser supply is crucial to ensuring Australian vegetable growers can continue supplying Australian families with food.”

The government has secured a major fertiliser delivery and says supplies are adequate for the coming months. But winter crop planting decisions are being made right now, under uncertainty, with reduced inputs. Those decisions will determine what’s on supermarket shelves by spring.

Sources: Commonwealth Bank Newsroom, April 2026 — commbank.com.au | SBS News, April 2026 — sbs.com.au | ASPI Strategist, March 2026 — aspistrategist.org.au

More – https://www.reddit.com/r/OZPreppers/comments/1tuddr8/the_hormuz_crisis_is_bigger_than_fuel_prices/

We could try making our own urea.

Under the ‘orse pisses

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Date: 3/06/2026 05:38:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 2397565
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

ah well we remember when virtually all chemical shortage problems can be solved as energy problems so if we’d gone overcapacity renewable earlier this wouldn’t even be an issue worth mentioning

all true.

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Date: 3/06/2026 05:44:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 2397567
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

The Hormuz crisis is bigger than fuel prices — here’s what’s actually coming for Australian households in the next six months.

Most coverage of the Strait of Hormuz crisis has focused on petrol prices. That’s understandable — it’s visible, immediate, and hits every household directly. But the fuel story is actually the easiest part of what’s coming. The harder parts are slower, less visible, and will hit Australian households harder and for longer.

Here’s what the research and mainstream reporting actually shows, broken down by category.

Fuel — already here, partially managed and visible

Australia has tapped its strategic reserves and halved the fuel excise for three months. The government has confirmed some shipments were cancelled or deferred — Energy Minister Chris Bowen confirmed six ships carrying fuel bound for Australia were affected by late March. The government position is that supplies remain adequate for now. The three-month excise cut expires at the end of June.

Sources: NRMA fuel tracker (updated regularly) — mynrma.com.au | ABC ministerial interview — ministers.dfat.gov.au

Fertiliser — the crisis most people haven’t noticed yet

This is where it gets interesting. Australia is entirely reliant on overseas supply for urea, one of the most critical inputs for cropping. Around two-thirds of our nitrogen fertiliser imports come from the Middle East. Even alternative supplies from Asia partially depend on Middle Eastern ammonia and gas.

Commonwealth Bank’s agribusiness team published an analysis on April 29 that is worth reading in full. The key line: urea prices have effectively doubled since the start of the conflict, and availability is now becoming as much of an issue as price. Farmers gearing up for winter planting are being forced to ration fertiliser applications. CBA economists estimate that in severe scenarios, 2026-27 agricultural output could fall by 25-30%.

50% of Australian vegetable growers are already reporting looming fertiliser shortages. AUSVEG’s chief executive warned: “Access to reliable fertiliser supply is crucial to ensuring Australian vegetable growers can continue supplying Australian families with food.”

The government has secured a major fertiliser delivery and says supplies are adequate for the coming months. But winter crop planting decisions are being made right now, under uncertainty, with reduced inputs. Those decisions will determine what’s on supermarket shelves by spring.

Sources: Commonwealth Bank Newsroom, April 2026 — commbank.com.au | SBS News, April 2026 — sbs.com.au | ASPI Strategist, March 2026 — aspistrategist.org.au

More – https://www.reddit.com/r/OZPreppers/comments/1tuddr8/the_hormuz_crisis_is_bigger_than_fuel_prices/

We could try making our own urea.

Under the ‘orse pisses

Well we have a lot of cows and they piss a lot.

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Date: 3/06/2026 18:18:13
From: Ian
ID: 2397807
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 3/06/2026 22:32:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 2397886
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Nine months out from the New South Wales state election campaign, One Nation recruit Barnaby Joyce has appeared in Sydney, declaring politicians are fearful of losing their jobs.

The New England MP was the headline act at a demonstration in front of state parliament on Tuesday evening, which demanded tighter controls on abortion.

“I don’t know much about lots, but I know lots about politics,” Mr Joyce said.

“And the one thing politicians fear is losing their job.

“What I see before me here is about 1,500 people who can hand out how-to-vote cards.”“https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-03/one-nation-barnaby-joyce-sydney-abortion-demonstration/106752420

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Date: 4/06/2026 19:42:15
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2398165
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Not really politics but im sure the no-brain parties will have something to say about it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-04/ahmed-al-ahmed-bondi-hero-assault-charge/106761238

Bondi Beach terror attack hero Ahmed Al Ahmed has been charged with assault.
Mr Ahmed was charged with domestic violence common assault and stalking and intimidating after an incident in Bankstown in March.
What’s next?
Mr Ahmed is due to appear in Bankstown Local Court on June 29.

It appears he attacked his father.

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Date: 4/06/2026 19:53:00
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2398167
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Not really politics but im sure the no-brain parties will have something to say about it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-04/ahmed-al-ahmed-bondi-hero-assault-charge/106761238

Bondi Beach terror attack hero Ahmed Al Ahmed has been charged with assault.
Mr Ahmed was charged with domestic violence common assault and stalking and intimidating after an incident in Bankstown in March.
What’s next?
Mr Ahmed is due to appear in Bankstown Local Court on June 29.

It appears he attacked his father.

Did he creep up on him?

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Date: 4/06/2026 20:29:09
From: ms spock
ID: 2398172
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael West and Australian journalis+

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Date: 5/06/2026 10:26:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2398284
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

should have poisoned it with one of those tracking devices then eh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-05/nsw-historian-pleas-for-camden-valley-way-milestone-return/106734730

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Date: 5/06/2026 10:29:50
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2398286
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

should have poisoned it with one of those tracking devices then eh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-05/nsw-historian-pleas-for-camden-valley-way-milestone-return/106734730

Cripes, haven’t seen those things for years! I remember that Penrith – Sydney one.

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Date: 5/06/2026 10:37:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 2398288
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


SCIENCE said:

should have poisoned it with one of those tracking devices then eh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-05/nsw-historian-pleas-for-camden-valley-way-milestone-return/106734730

Cripes, haven’t seen those things for years! I remember that Penrith – Sydney one.

Heck. It was a concrete one. The real old ones were wood.

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Date: 5/06/2026 10:40:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2398291
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

should have poisoned it with one of those tracking devices then eh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-05/nsw-historian-pleas-for-camden-valley-way-milestone-return/106734730

Cripes, haven’t seen those things for years! I remember that Penrith – Sydney one.

Heck. It was a concrete one. The real old ones were wood.

luxury, back when we had to mark roads before the origin of life we only had primordial soup to work with

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Date: 5/06/2026 10:42:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 2398295
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Cripes, haven’t seen those things for years! I remember that Penrith – Sydney one.

Heck. It was a concrete one. The real old ones were wood.

luxury, back when we had to mark roads before the origin of life we only had primordial soup to work with

We didn’t even have roads.

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Date: 5/06/2026 11:05:15
From: Michael V
ID: 2398308
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

should have poisoned it with one of those tracking devices then eh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-05/nsw-historian-pleas-for-camden-valley-way-milestone-return/106734730

Cripes, haven’t seen those things for years! I remember that Penrith – Sydney one.

Heck. It was a concrete one. The real old ones were wood.

There was one in Western Sydney that was sandstone, with Roman Numerals on it IIRC.

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Date: 5/06/2026 11:11:09
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2398311
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Cripes, haven’t seen those things for years! I remember that Penrith – Sydney one.

Heck. It was a concrete one. The real old ones were wood.

There was one in Western Sydney that was sandstone, with Roman Numerals on it IIRC.

what have the romans ever done for us?

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Date: 5/06/2026 11:15:39
From: Michael V
ID: 2398318
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Heck. It was a concrete one. The real old ones were wood.

There was one in Western Sydney that was sandstone, with Roman Numerals on it IIRC.

what have the romans ever done for us?

Allowed some people to have salaries.

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Date: 5/06/2026 12:49:26
From: dv
ID: 2398357
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/05/barnaby-joyce-sky-news-interview-one-nation-housing-policy-backflip

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Date: 5/06/2026 12:56:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2398359
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/05/barnaby-joyce-sky-news-interview-one-nation-housing-policy-backflip

One Nation moving into disaster mode sounds very watchable to me.

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Date: 5/06/2026 14:16:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2398400
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/05/barnaby-joyce-sky-news-interview-one-nation-housing-policy-backflip

One Nation moving into disaster mode sounds very watchable to me.

isn’t that how all these populists make policies though, just flop around saying random shit and see what the pollster response is, hence the fucking manipulation media and all their a-b testing

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Date: 5/06/2026 14:25:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2398409
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Rich mates, secret mansions: Australia’s millionaire Nazi-backers revealed
Wealthy backers are helping Australia’s neo-Nazis plot their next move into politics from a secret multimillion-dollar compound. We tracked it down – along with Thomas Sewell’s rich mates.

Sherryn Groch
June 3, 2026

You can’t see the mansion – or its pool – from the road. But locals in this leafy corner of Melbourne’s north-east have seen the man who lives here in town.

Some will yell at him; a few want to shake his hand. The face of the bald, mustachioed leader of Australia’s largest neo-Nazi group is known not just here but around the world, after all.

What locals don’t know is that, since being released on bail last year on assault charges, neo-Nazi Thomas Sewell has been secretly living among them at this sprawling $2.5 million estate.

Sewell’s name doesn’t appear on the official paperwork – it was bought using a shell company by the heir of a Melbourne trucking empire.

It’s just one in a web of assets this masthead has discovered held by rich associates and less prominent members of Sewell’s now-outlawed neo-Nazi group the National Socialist Network (NSN).

For the first time, an investigation by this masthead can unmask the wealthy backers behind Australia’s neo-Nazis as they mount a costly High Court challenge to new hate speech laws – and plot their next move into politics.

Among Sewell’s rich associates are a race-car driver turned failed political candidate who owns a fleet of planes; the son of a gun dealer and inventor in regional Victoria; a jet-setting “manfluencer” friend of Andrew Tate who sells penis supplements to teenagers; a property development heir turned provocateur, and a stockbroker mixing with MAGA influencers overseas.

Sewell has recently bragged to followers on livestreams of his plans to build a function centre on the property he said “an investor” had “gifted” his group last year – which this masthead has now tracked down through open-source intelligence and property records.

International extremism expert Matt Kriner, who recently assessed the NSN for the Albanese government, says the assets and connections uncovered by this masthead suggest Australia’s neo-Nazis have entered a dangerous new phase. “Historically, when fascist movements start to sequester themselves in compounds, particularly those that have already shown a fascination with violence, terrorists and weapons like the NSN, that makes them very dangerous,” Kriner said.

He and other far-right researchers say authorities should now target the group the same way they had organised crime syndicates: “By following the money.”

Sewell’s new home – described by one gushing realtor as a mountain chalet – boasts more than 10 bedrooms, as well as a gym and pool on a 19-acre block. Up a long snaking drive, the main house is screened from the road by thick bush and security fences, but enjoys soaring hilltop views of Melbourne.

The NSN has long been trying to acquire land to build “white homestead” compounds from which to grow a racist ethno-state. Two sources close to the group, speaking anonymously for safety reasons, said other neo-Nazis were living at the estate with Sewell and his family. This masthead separately connected several men associated with the NSN to the address.

While on bail, Sewell is barred from associating with about a dozen neo-Nazis charged over a violent attack that Sewell allegedly led on an Indigenous camp last year. But his living arrangements with others in the group do not appear to have drawn scrutiny from authorities.

In outlawing the NSN as a hate group on May 15, Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke noted that they had continued to operate in the shadows, “phoenixing” under new names and forms rather than disbanding as they claimed.

Documents recently filed in the High Court by Sewell in his fight to overturn the new laws confirm that the NSN never dissolved its political party wing, “White Australia”, of which Sewell remains president. And records filed by White Australia list the mansion – Sewell’s home – as their new headquarters.

The mansion and the mystery investor
In late January, when Sewell told the public his NSN was disbanding, more than 100 of his followers descended on a Melbourne oval for their last official training session.

Among the sea of swastika tattoos and mullets gathered around Sewell that afternoon, this masthead identified a scattering of millionaires.

One of them, photographed wearing the distinctive white wristband denoting long-term membership of the NSN, was Sewell’s mystery “investor”: Martin Featherstone.

Featherstone, 45, has inherited his family’s trucking company wealth and owns millions of dollars in property in the state’s north-east, including another $3.5 million mansion just minutes down the road from the compound where Sewell is living.

The private school-educated Featherstone describes himself as a “white nationalist” and “racist” online, and has been pictured marching alongside neo-Nazis at recent rallies.

For more than a decade he helped manage his family’s multimillion-dollar logistics company. But Featherstone no longer appears to be working. “I’m in a privileged position,” he wrote in April on X of his decision to continue “speaking out” for the NSN when other neo-Nazis had lost their jobs after being unmasked. “I can’t be fired or ‘cancelled’. I choose not to be anonymous to (hopefully) lend some weight of authenticity.”

The hunt for Sewell’s compound began late last year, when NSN leadership announced to the group that “someone has bought us a place in Victoria”, according to two sources familiar with the discussion. “It’s a momentous moment for the org,” neo-Nazis Joel Davis and Jack Eltis told recruits.

Soon after, Sewell spoke on a livestream about a property “the org had been gifted” where he was now living, about 40 minutes from the city, as well as his plans to acquire a pub through another cleanskin “investor”.

Real estate sales, and a recent tip-off, pointed to a mansion acquired by a shell company in 2025. That company is jointly owned by Featherstone and his elderly mother. Sewell and his associates have since been spotted in the neighbourhood. Some left a digital trail too, even reviewing nearby restaurants. Documents obtained last month confirmed the address as White Australia’s HQ.

This masthead does not suggest Featherstone’s mother is aware of how the property is being used or holds neo-Nazi views herself. Featherstone did not respond to questions before deadline.

The mansion, with its separate living quarters, is intended to operate as a central hub for the neo-Nazi group, according to insiders, with fight training and education. It will be modelled on American “white homestead” enclaves, including those run by the fascist group Patriot Front, whose members the NSN have hosted in Australia.

Priority boarding has been given to men with families, as younger recruits are placed in sharehouses rented by the group elsewhere through “friends of the org”. One member has even been allowed to bring his dog to the compound “for security”, though Sewell dislikes pets.

“Our first investment has been housing,” Sewell said in December of the NSN and the “significant money” from “big investors” he claimed it had begun to attract, laughing at media theories that he had “been living out of a caravan”. “We’re being looked after,” he said. “I’m sure there’ll be a different type of smear coming out in the next couple months years about where I’m living now.”

Soon, Sewell promised, the group would have even more “protected rentals” like this, owned by members and associates, to house its “warriors”.

Featherstone is certainly a sympathetic landlord. He frequently espouses extreme views online – from nuking Israel and “stomping out” people of colour to executing “traitors” and “putting parliaments to the sword”. In secret NSN chats leaked to this masthead, Featherstone also joined in the neo-Nazi group’s violent discussions, including about running over Indian people with cars.

When asked for a response to this story, Sewell did not deny his plans for the compound but reiterated claims that the media and government were behaving “immorally” ahead of his High Court showdown.

“It is obvious your network of traitors are nervous about the potential fallout from a High Court decision to challenge the hate speech legislation and are therefore engaging in a smear campaign to cover your tracks.”

Former AFP counter-terrorism detective John Coyne, who once infiltrated white supremacist compounds himself, says that Sewell’s new headquarters calls to mind the strongholds of American neo-Nazis. That includes terror cell The Order as well as the Ku Klux Klan at its height – two groups openly lionised by the NSN.

“Of course, one man’s secret military compound is another’s house in the ’burbs,” Coyne said. But the possibility of guns on the Melbourne property was particularly worthy of investigation, he added.

Sewell has previously spoken online of needing to put guns “in other people’s names” and the difficulties of being unable to own many assets, given he is blacklisted by most banks for his neo-Nazi activity.

The government’s crackdown on the NSN was designed to “choke the fire of oxygen”, Coyne said. But instead, beneath all that smoke, the group has been revealed to have “a far bigger ecosystem than we’d have expected”. “What you’ve found shows there’s a network of people with dirty secrets.”

Wealthy associates
Indeed, Featherstone is not the only wealthy figure this masthead has identified in the orbit of the country’s most notorious neo-Nazi.

In August, when Sewell led the March for Australia anti-immigration rally in Melbourne and addressed a crowd of thousands from the steps of Parliament House, many of his rich friends were there with him.

To one side, in an oversized peacoat and sunglasses, was Hugo Lennon, the Scotch College graduate and scion of one of Australia’s wealthiest property development families turned far-right influencer. Lennon had helped Sewell organise the rallies around the country, playing the “concerned centrist” publicly while taking part in secret NSN chats and planning online, as revealed last year.

Beside him was another key March organiser, who can now be unmasked as wealthy race car driver and pilot Yassin Albarri.

The 26-year-old owns a cargo airline which claims to have its own fleet of planes, and in 2022 ran as a Victorian candidate for Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party (UAP).

Corporate records reveal Albarri has now started a company with one of the NSN’s most ardent members, Jake Crockett. Crockett is himself facing charges for the NSN attack on an Indigenous camp that followed that August march, as the rally descended into violence across Melbourne.

Albarri has been frequently identified and photographed mixing with neo-Nazis at rallies the NSN has helped organise since, including a former member of the terrorist group Combat 18. He has served as the rallies’ police liaison and, behind the scenes, pictures place him at meetings hosted by senior NSN figures.

During Albarri’s federal election campaign he worked with neo-Nazi associates such as Stu von Moger, who were then helping run security for the UAP.

But he’s also close with members of the Liberal Party, frequently pictured with party organisers and volunteers on social media, dining in members’ rooms and VIP boxes.

Albarri started a company called Rosetta Entertainment in September last year with the NSN’s Crockett as a co-founder and part-owner. Albarri did not respond to questions about the nature of the business or his dealings with the NSN before deadline. But it is not suggested he was a member of the group himself.

Then there is the man in the white hat.

Introducing Sewell to the rally crowd that day in August, from a podium built by the neo-Nazis especially for the occasion, was a red-haired figure with a striking hat – and moustache.

The same man, who was later filmed helping Sewell coordinate the March, also appeared in pictures released by the neo-Nazi group months earlier of its hiking trips, and would be seen with march organisers such as Albarri at other NSN-organised rallies. In footage of a neo-Nazi protest on Australia Day 2025 the same man appears, in the same white hat, shaking hands with white supremacists such as Blair Cottrell. A year on, he was also photographed at the NSN’s final training – only this time he was clad all in black.

This masthead, along with researchers at the anti-fascist White Rose Society, have now identified him as David Roberts, the son of a gun dealer, pilot and inventor. His family hold considerable property and wealth in regional Victoria, including their own airplanes and a 300-acre estate, and have obtained hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal government grants in recent years as they expand their aviation business. It is not suggested his family hold neo-Nazi views themselves.

Neo-Nazis, such as the former dentist Ian Lomax, have also appeared alongside Roberts in recent pictures from the axe-throwing association where he serves as secretary. Roberts has been contacted for comment.

Ferraris for the Fuhrer
Sewell’s rich associates bring more than just money. Among his entourage at the marches in August were an array of far-right influencers – all streaming to their hundreds of thousands of followers.

Concealed behind racing sunglasses was “Sir Doug” as he is known online – Lennon’s long-time collaborator – who has now been identified as Melbourne stockbroker Mitchell Hobbs.

Hobbs was also photographed at the neo-Nazis’ training session in January.

He and Lennon recently toured the US together for the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Texas, mixing with everyone from Trump MAGA acolytes to a former leader of extremist group The Proud Boys.

Instagram reels show the young Australians driving flash cars, partying on rooftops and holding guns. Pictured alongside them is North American “looksmaxxer” Jack Gordon, who runs his own neo-Nazi bookstore advocating “accelerationism” – the neo-Nazi goal of speeding up societal collapse to start a race war.

This masthead recently revealed the extent of the NSN’s entanglement with terrorists and accelerationist groups overseas, some of whom have trained its members and given it money. The investigation also uncovered a secret chatroom run by neo-Nazis and March for Australia organisers – including Lennon – where an alleged $10,000 plot to kidnap Prime Minister Anthony Albanese had led to multiple police raids.

Lennon has always said he does not advocate violence nor take part in threats online but has refused to distance himself from the NSN. Hobbs has been contacted for comment.

In Lennon’s recent travels across the US, the 20-something influencer has been spruiking Sewell to America’s conservative establishment, speaking at conferences of the NSN leader as “a household name … at the forefront” of Australian politics.

International far-right groups, in part, helped Sewell raise a war chest of more than $150,000 in just a few days this year to fund his High Court challenge to Australia’s extremism crackdown. They also contributed to earlier fundraisers set up by Sewell for his “community land project” to “create a home for white people in Australia”.

But Sewell has been drawing on the connections of another wealthy recruit too: the “manfluencer” – and former porn star – Stirling Cooper.

Cooper, an Australian pharmacy graduate turned sex coach and penis supplement salesman, is a close associate of misogynist provocateur and accused sex trafficker Andrew Tate. You can find Cooper splashed across the internet on Tate’s private jets and at his parties around the world, or else driving his Ferraris through Marbella, Miami or Melbourne.

But within the secretive ranks of the NSN, Cooper is known as “Nige” – for his real name Nigel Clifford – regularly spotted at neo-Nazi training in his home of Perth as well as at key national events, including the group’s “final training” in Melbourne this year.

Records obtained by this masthead reveal Cooper is also the owner of website domains set up by the NSN. Cooper registered the group’s original White Australia political site in 2025 using his real name, through one of two companies he owns that are associated with the NSN called “Antipodes Associates”. Two sources within the neo-Nazi group say Cooper has gifted significant sums of money to its members and has helped it set up apparent shell companies like Antipodes.

Cooper ignored repeated requests for comment.

Last year, this masthead revealed how he was helping the NSN artificially inflate its reach online using a Tate-style legion of unbranded accounts to post propaganda. While the NSN has since disbanded officially, those “hype edits” continue to circulate on social media, drawing in young men.

And, as Sewell’s own star power in the “manosphere” rises, the neo-Nazi leader has been appearing on the podcasts of other influencer friends of Cooper’s such as Elijah Schaffer and Jake Shields.

For Kriner, it’s a familiar collision. “The early influencers of the manosphere also created their own white supremacist compounds, like Wolves Of Vinland, and its feeder org Operation Werewolf,” he says.

Several Australians associated with the NSN were themselves part of international militant group Operation Werewolf, leaked chat logs reveal.

On their CPAC pilgrimage in March, Lennon and Hobbs heard from former Trump strategist Steve Bannon – who has been trying to set up white training compounds across Europe himself, including a “gladiator school” in an 800-year-old Italian monastery.

“Sewell is positioning himself on the global stage to be such a critical linchpin for rage against the Left that the moment any setback happens to him, he can use that to ignite a global audience – for fundraising, for access, maybe even egress out of Australia,” says Kriner.

“The people they’ve been trying to reach in the US even be in the ear of this Trump administration convincing them that Sewell’s being persecuted unfairly.”

White enclaves, politics – and welfare
Of course, unlike his jet-setting mates, Sewell insists that he “doesn’t care about money”. He encourages his followers to claim welfare support from the government – as his own family does. Last year, while arguing in court to be bailed to a “sharehouse”, he claimed that he collected only about $1000 a month from the membership dues of his 300-odd neo-Nazi recruits.

Yet, there was already enough cash flowing through the NSN in 2024 that nearly $50,000 stolen over the course of that year went unnoticed for many months (before the member accused of skimming was discovered and excommunicated).

Of late, Sewell has begun boasting of those with serious wealth and connections joining his group – including “sleeper agents” he claims are also members of the Liberal Party attending its meetings. On livestreams, Sewell has said a well-connected barrister is giving him cheap legal advice, and that a political powerbroker is advising his continued efforts to form a neo-Nazi party. He says he is “constantly networking”, including in his new neighbourhood, and speaks of a contact book of sympathetic bosses and businesses offering his neo-Nazis jobs.

Sewell is now being represented by former federal Liberal MP Peter King in his High Court fight, though it is understood King was obliged to accept the case under a rule that stops barristers from refusing a brief they are in a position to take up.

In a livestream on X in May, a former Victorian state Liberal Party organiser openly bragged of getting “jobs for those boys” in the NSN, as she joined in discussion with neo-Nazis about how best to achieve their “accelerationist” and “revolutionary” goals and run their “parallel societies”.

Experts like Coyne call the collection of influential people now quietly helping Sewell, both at home and overseas, “alarming”.

But he expects it will be difficult for Australian authorities to seize the NSN’s assets, even under the new hate speech regime. “They’d just say it’s theirs personally,” Coyne says. “It’s another grey zone, awful but lawful. And, in all this, we still have to protect freedom of thought.”

At the compound, White Rose fear Sewell will now be able to exert even more control over his followers and their families under the NSN’s cult-like model.

Sewell advocates for men to rule “large, white families”, homeschooling their kids and strictly managing their women – down to their makeup and clothes. (“Incidences of female infidelity, we’ve dealt with it in house,” he said on a recent stream. “Just 100 per cent cull, excommunicated. If we were in the wild, you’d starve to death.” )

The neo-Nazi leader now has plans to expand his property portfolio in the east.

“It’s not unfathomable to me that Sewell might be setting up his own Waco in Australia,” says Kriner. “Particularly if he feels protected by rich benefactors.”

https://www.theage.com.au/national/rich-mates-secret-mansions-australia-s-millionaire-nazis-revealed-20260428-p5zrm6.html

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Rich mates, secret mansions: Australia’s millionaire Nazi-backers revealed
Wealthy backers are helping Australia’s neo-Nazis plot their next move into politics from a secret multimillion-dollar compound. We tracked it down – along with Thomas Sewell’s rich mates.

Sherryn Groch
June 3, 2026

You can’t see the mansion – or its pool – from the road. But locals in this leafy corner of Melbourne’s north-east have seen the man who lives here in town.

Some will yell at him; a few want to shake his hand. The face of the bald, mustachioed leader of Australia’s largest neo-Nazi group is known not just here but around the world, after all.

What locals don’t know is that, since being released on bail last year on assault charges, neo-Nazi Thomas Sewell has been secretly living among them at this sprawling $2.5 million estate.

Sewell’s name doesn’t appear on the official paperwork – it was bought using a shell company by the heir of a Melbourne trucking empire.

It’s just one in a web of assets this masthead has discovered held by rich associates and less prominent members of Sewell’s now-outlawed neo-Nazi group the National Socialist Network (NSN).

For the first time, an investigation by this masthead can unmask the wealthy backers behind Australia’s neo-Nazis as they mount a costly High Court challenge to new hate speech laws – and plot their next move into politics.

Among Sewell’s rich associates are a race-car driver turned failed political candidate who owns a fleet of planes; the son of a gun dealer and inventor in regional Victoria; a jet-setting “manfluencer” friend of Andrew Tate who sells penis supplements to teenagers; a property development heir turned provocateur, and a stockbroker mixing with MAGA influencers overseas.

Sewell has recently bragged to followers on livestreams of his plans to build a function centre on the property he said “an investor” had “gifted” his group last year – which this masthead has now tracked down through open-source intelligence and property records.

International extremism expert Matt Kriner, who recently assessed the NSN for the Albanese government, says the assets and connections uncovered by this masthead suggest Australia’s neo-Nazis have entered a dangerous new phase. “Historically, when fascist movements start to sequester themselves in compounds, particularly those that have already shown a fascination with violence, terrorists and weapons like the NSN, that makes them very dangerous,” Kriner said.

He and other far-right researchers say authorities should now target the group the same way they had organised crime syndicates: “By following the money.”

Sewell’s new home – described by one gushing realtor as a mountain chalet – boasts more than 10 bedrooms, as well as a gym and pool on a 19-acre block. Up a long snaking drive, the main house is screened from the road by thick bush and security fences, but enjoys soaring hilltop views of Melbourne.

The NSN has long been trying to acquire land to build “white homestead” compounds from which to grow a racist ethno-state. Two sources close to the group, speaking anonymously for safety reasons, said other neo-Nazis were living at the estate with Sewell and his family. This masthead separately connected several men associated with the NSN to the address.

While on bail, Sewell is barred from associating with about a dozen neo-Nazis charged over a violent attack that Sewell allegedly led on an Indigenous camp last year. But his living arrangements with others in the group do not appear to have drawn scrutiny from authorities.

In outlawing the NSN as a hate group on May 15, Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke noted that they had continued to operate in the shadows, “phoenixing” under new names and forms rather than disbanding as they claimed.

Documents recently filed in the High Court by Sewell in his fight to overturn the new laws confirm that the NSN never dissolved its political party wing, “White Australia”, of which Sewell remains president. And records filed by White Australia list the mansion – Sewell’s home – as their new headquarters.

The mansion and the mystery investor
In late January, when Sewell told the public his NSN was disbanding, more than 100 of his followers descended on a Melbourne oval for their last official training session.

Among the sea of swastika tattoos and mullets gathered around Sewell that afternoon, this masthead identified a scattering of millionaires.

One of them, photographed wearing the distinctive white wristband denoting long-term membership of the NSN, was Sewell’s mystery “investor”: Martin Featherstone.

Featherstone, 45, has inherited his family’s trucking company wealth and owns millions of dollars in property in the state’s north-east, including another $3.5 million mansion just minutes down the road from the compound where Sewell is living.

The private school-educated Featherstone describes himself as a “white nationalist” and “racist” online, and has been pictured marching alongside neo-Nazis at recent rallies.

For more than a decade he helped manage his family’s multimillion-dollar logistics company. But Featherstone no longer appears to be working. “I’m in a privileged position,” he wrote in April on X of his decision to continue “speaking out” for the NSN when other neo-Nazis had lost their jobs after being unmasked. “I can’t be fired or ‘cancelled’. I choose not to be anonymous to (hopefully) lend some weight of authenticity.”

The hunt for Sewell’s compound began late last year, when NSN leadership announced to the group that “someone has bought us a place in Victoria”, according to two sources familiar with the discussion. “It’s a momentous moment for the org,” neo-Nazis Joel Davis and Jack Eltis told recruits.

Soon after, Sewell spoke on a livestream about a property “the org had been gifted” where he was now living, about 40 minutes from the city, as well as his plans to acquire a pub through another cleanskin “investor”.

Real estate sales, and a recent tip-off, pointed to a mansion acquired by a shell company in 2025. That company is jointly owned by Featherstone and his elderly mother. Sewell and his associates have since been spotted in the neighbourhood. Some left a digital trail too, even reviewing nearby restaurants. Documents obtained last month confirmed the address as White Australia’s HQ.

This masthead does not suggest Featherstone’s mother is aware of how the property is being used or holds neo-Nazi views herself. Featherstone did not respond to questions before deadline.

The mansion, with its separate living quarters, is intended to operate as a central hub for the neo-Nazi group, according to insiders, with fight training and education. It will be modelled on American “white homestead” enclaves, including those run by the fascist group Patriot Front, whose members the NSN have hosted in Australia.

Priority boarding has been given to men with families, as younger recruits are placed in sharehouses rented by the group elsewhere through “friends of the org”. One member has even been allowed to bring his dog to the compound “for security”, though Sewell dislikes pets.

“Our first investment has been housing,” Sewell said in December of the NSN and the “significant money” from “big investors” he claimed it had begun to attract, laughing at media theories that he had “been living out of a caravan”. “We’re being looked after,” he said. “I’m sure there’ll be a different type of smear coming out in the next couple months years about where I’m living now.”

Soon, Sewell promised, the group would have even more “protected rentals” like this, owned by members and associates, to house its “warriors”.

Featherstone is certainly a sympathetic landlord. He frequently espouses extreme views online – from nuking Israel and “stomping out” people of colour to executing “traitors” and “putting parliaments to the sword”. In secret NSN chats leaked to this masthead, Featherstone also joined in the neo-Nazi group’s violent discussions, including about running over Indian people with cars.

When asked for a response to this story, Sewell did not deny his plans for the compound but reiterated claims that the media and government were behaving “immorally” ahead of his High Court showdown.

“It is obvious your network of traitors are nervous about the potential fallout from a High Court decision to challenge the hate speech legislation and are therefore engaging in a smear campaign to cover your tracks.”

Former AFP counter-terrorism detective John Coyne, who once infiltrated white supremacist compounds himself, says that Sewell’s new headquarters calls to mind the strongholds of American neo-Nazis. That includes terror cell The Order as well as the Ku Klux Klan at its height – two groups openly lionised by the NSN.

“Of course, one man’s secret military compound is another’s house in the ’burbs,” Coyne said. But the possibility of guns on the Melbourne property was particularly worthy of investigation, he added.

Sewell has previously spoken online of needing to put guns “in other people’s names” and the difficulties of being unable to own many assets, given he is blacklisted by most banks for his neo-Nazi activity.

The government’s crackdown on the NSN was designed to “choke the fire of oxygen”, Coyne said. But instead, beneath all that smoke, the group has been revealed to have “a far bigger ecosystem than we’d have expected”. “What you’ve found shows there’s a network of people with dirty secrets.”

Wealthy associates
Indeed, Featherstone is not the only wealthy figure this masthead has identified in the orbit of the country’s most notorious neo-Nazi.

In August, when Sewell led the March for Australia anti-immigration rally in Melbourne and addressed a crowd of thousands from the steps of Parliament House, many of his rich friends were there with him.

To one side, in an oversized peacoat and sunglasses, was Hugo Lennon, the Scotch College graduate and scion of one of Australia’s wealthiest property development families turned far-right influencer. Lennon had helped Sewell organise the rallies around the country, playing the “concerned centrist” publicly while taking part in secret NSN chats and planning online, as revealed last year.

Beside him was another key March organiser, who can now be unmasked as wealthy race car driver and pilot Yassin Albarri.

The 26-year-old owns a cargo airline which claims to have its own fleet of planes, and in 2022 ran as a Victorian candidate for Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party (UAP).

Corporate records reveal Albarri has now started a company with one of the NSN’s most ardent members, Jake Crockett. Crockett is himself facing charges for the NSN attack on an Indigenous camp that followed that August march, as the rally descended into violence across Melbourne.

Albarri has been frequently identified and photographed mixing with neo-Nazis at rallies the NSN has helped organise since, including a former member of the terrorist group Combat 18. He has served as the rallies’ police liaison and, behind the scenes, pictures place him at meetings hosted by senior NSN figures.

During Albarri’s federal election campaign he worked with neo-Nazi associates such as Stu von Moger, who were then helping run security for the UAP.

But he’s also close with members of the Liberal Party, frequently pictured with party organisers and volunteers on social media, dining in members’ rooms and VIP boxes.

Albarri started a company called Rosetta Entertainment in September last year with the NSN’s Crockett as a co-founder and part-owner. Albarri did not respond to questions about the nature of the business or his dealings with the NSN before deadline. But it is not suggested he was a member of the group himself.

Then there is the man in the white hat.

Introducing Sewell to the rally crowd that day in August, from a podium built by the neo-Nazis especially for the occasion, was a red-haired figure with a striking hat – and moustache.

The same man, who was later filmed helping Sewell coordinate the March, also appeared in pictures released by the neo-Nazi group months earlier of its hiking trips, and would be seen with march organisers such as Albarri at other NSN-organised rallies. In footage of a neo-Nazi protest on Australia Day 2025 the same man appears, in the same white hat, shaking hands with white supremacists such as Blair Cottrell. A year on, he was also photographed at the NSN’s final training – only this time he was clad all in black.

This masthead, along with researchers at the anti-fascist White Rose Society, have now identified him as David Roberts, the son of a gun dealer, pilot and inventor. His family hold considerable property and wealth in regional Victoria, including their own airplanes and a 300-acre estate, and have obtained hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal government grants in recent years as they expand their aviation business. It is not suggested his family hold neo-Nazi views themselves.

Neo-Nazis, such as the former dentist Ian Lomax, have also appeared alongside Roberts in recent pictures from the axe-throwing association where he serves as secretary. Roberts has been contacted for comment.

Ferraris for the Fuhrer
Sewell’s rich associates bring more than just money. Among his entourage at the marches in August were an array of far-right influencers – all streaming to their hundreds of thousands of followers.

Concealed behind racing sunglasses was “Sir Doug” as he is known online – Lennon’s long-time collaborator – who has now been identified as Melbourne stockbroker Mitchell Hobbs.

Hobbs was also photographed at the neo-Nazis’ training session in January.

He and Lennon recently toured the US together for the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Texas, mixing with everyone from Trump MAGA acolytes to a former leader of extremist group The Proud Boys.

Instagram reels show the young Australians driving flash cars, partying on rooftops and holding guns. Pictured alongside them is North American “looksmaxxer” Jack Gordon, who runs his own neo-Nazi bookstore advocating “accelerationism” – the neo-Nazi goal of speeding up societal collapse to start a race war.

This masthead recently revealed the extent of the NSN’s entanglement with terrorists and accelerationist groups overseas, some of whom have trained its members and given it money. The investigation also uncovered a secret chatroom run by neo-Nazis and March for Australia organisers – including Lennon – where an alleged $10,000 plot to kidnap Prime Minister Anthony Albanese had led to multiple police raids.

Lennon has always said he does not advocate violence nor take part in threats online but has refused to distance himself from the NSN. Hobbs has been contacted for comment.

In Lennon’s recent travels across the US, the 20-something influencer has been spruiking Sewell to America’s conservative establishment, speaking at conferences of the NSN leader as “a household name … at the forefront” of Australian politics.

International far-right groups, in part, helped Sewell raise a war chest of more than $150,000 in just a few days this year to fund his High Court challenge to Australia’s extremism crackdown. They also contributed to earlier fundraisers set up by Sewell for his “community land project” to “create a home for white people in Australia”.

But Sewell has been drawing on the connections of another wealthy recruit too: the “manfluencer” – and former porn star – Stirling Cooper.

Cooper, an Australian pharmacy graduate turned sex coach and penis supplement salesman, is a close associate of misogynist provocateur and accused sex trafficker Andrew Tate. You can find Cooper splashed across the internet on Tate’s private jets and at his parties around the world, or else driving his Ferraris through Marbella, Miami or Melbourne.

But within the secretive ranks of the NSN, Cooper is known as “Nige” – for his real name Nigel Clifford – regularly spotted at neo-Nazi training in his home of Perth as well as at key national events, including the group’s “final training” in Melbourne this year.

Records obtained by this masthead reveal Cooper is also the owner of website domains set up by the NSN. Cooper registered the group’s original White Australia political site in 2025 using his real name, through one of two companies he owns that are associated with the NSN called “Antipodes Associates”. Two sources within the neo-Nazi group say Cooper has gifted significant sums of money to its members and has helped it set up apparent shell companies like Antipodes.

Cooper ignored repeated requests for comment.

Last year, this masthead revealed how he was helping the NSN artificially inflate its reach online using a Tate-style legion of unbranded accounts to post propaganda. While the NSN has since disbanded officially, those “hype edits” continue to circulate on social media, drawing in young men.

And, as Sewell’s own star power in the “manosphere” rises, the neo-Nazi leader has been appearing on the podcasts of other influencer friends of Cooper’s such as Elijah Schaffer and Jake Shields.

For Kriner, it’s a familiar collision. “The early influencers of the manosphere also created their own white supremacist compounds, like Wolves Of Vinland, and its feeder org Operation Werewolf,” he says.

Several Australians associated with the NSN were themselves part of international militant group Operation Werewolf, leaked chat logs reveal.

On their CPAC pilgrimage in March, Lennon and Hobbs heard from former Trump strategist Steve Bannon – who has been trying to set up white training compounds across Europe himself, including a “gladiator school” in an 800-year-old Italian monastery.

“Sewell is positioning himself on the global stage to be such a critical linchpin for rage against the Left that the moment any setback happens to him, he can use that to ignite a global audience – for fundraising, for access, maybe even egress out of Australia,” says Kriner.

“The people they’ve been trying to reach in the US even be in the ear of this Trump administration convincing them that Sewell’s being persecuted unfairly.”

White enclaves, politics – and welfare
Of course, unlike his jet-setting mates, Sewell insists that he “doesn’t care about money”. He encourages his followers to claim welfare support from the government – as his own family does. Last year, while arguing in court to be bailed to a “sharehouse”, he claimed that he collected only about $1000 a month from the membership dues of his 300-odd neo-Nazi recruits.

Yet, there was already enough cash flowing through the NSN in 2024 that nearly $50,000 stolen over the course of that year went unnoticed for many months (before the member accused of skimming was discovered and excommunicated).

Of late, Sewell has begun boasting of those with serious wealth and connections joining his group – including “sleeper agents” he claims are also members of the Liberal Party attending its meetings. On livestreams, Sewell has said a well-connected barrister is giving him cheap legal advice, and that a political powerbroker is advising his continued efforts to form a neo-Nazi party. He says he is “constantly networking”, including in his new neighbourhood, and speaks of a contact book of sympathetic bosses and businesses offering his neo-Nazis jobs.

Sewell is now being represented by former federal Liberal MP Peter King in his High Court fight, though it is understood King was obliged to accept the case under a rule that stops barristers from refusing a brief they are in a position to take up.

In a livestream on X in May, a former Victorian state Liberal Party organiser openly bragged of getting “jobs for those boys” in the NSN, as she joined in discussion with neo-Nazis about how best to achieve their “accelerationist” and “revolutionary” goals and run their “parallel societies”.

Experts like Coyne call the collection of influential people now quietly helping Sewell, both at home and overseas, “alarming”.

But he expects it will be difficult for Australian authorities to seize the NSN’s assets, even under the new hate speech regime. “They’d just say it’s theirs personally,” Coyne says. “It’s another grey zone, awful but lawful. And, in all this, we still have to protect freedom of thought.”

At the compound, White Rose fear Sewell will now be able to exert even more control over his followers and their families under the NSN’s cult-like model.

Sewell advocates for men to rule “large, white families”, homeschooling their kids and strictly managing their women – down to their makeup and clothes. (“Incidences of female infidelity, we’ve dealt with it in house,” he said on a recent stream. “Just 100 per cent cull, excommunicated. If we were in the wild, you’d starve to death.” )

The neo-Nazi leader now has plans to expand his property portfolio in the east.

“It’s not unfathomable to me that Sewell might be setting up his own Waco in Australia,” says Kriner. “Particularly if he feels protected by rich benefactors.”

https://www.theage.com.au/national/rich-mates-secret-mansions-australia-s-millionaire-nazis-revealed-20260428-p5zrm6.html

$2.5M for a 10 bedroom house on 19 acres within view of Melbourne sounds very cheap to me.

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Rich mates, secret mansions: Australia’s millionaire Nazi-backers revealed
Wealthy backers are helping Australia’s neo-Nazis plot their next move into politics from a secret multimillion-dollar compound. We tracked it down – along with Thomas Sewell’s rich mates.

Sherryn Groch
June 3, 2026

You can’t see the mansion – or its pool – from the road. But locals in this leafy corner of Melbourne’s north-east have seen the man who lives here in town.

Some will yell at him; a few want to shake his hand. The face of the bald, mustachioed leader of Australia’s largest neo-Nazi group is known not just here but around the world, after all.

What locals don’t know is that, since being released on bail last year on assault charges, neo-Nazi Thomas Sewell has been secretly living among them at this sprawling $2.5 million estate.

Sewell’s name doesn’t appear on the official paperwork – it was bought using a shell company by the heir of a Melbourne trucking empire.

It’s just one in a web of assets this masthead has discovered held by rich associates and less prominent members of Sewell’s now-outlawed neo-Nazi group the National Socialist Network (NSN).

For the first time, an investigation by this masthead can unmask the wealthy backers behind Australia’s neo-Nazis as they mount a costly High Court challenge to new hate speech laws – and plot their next move into politics.

Among Sewell’s rich associates are a race-car driver turned failed political candidate who owns a fleet of planes; the son of a gun dealer and inventor in regional Victoria; a jet-setting “manfluencer” friend of Andrew Tate who sells penis supplements to teenagers; a property development heir turned provocateur, and a stockbroker mixing with MAGA influencers overseas.

Sewell has recently bragged to followers on livestreams of his plans to build a function centre on the property he said “an investor” had “gifted” his group last year – which this masthead has now tracked down through open-source intelligence and property records.

International extremism expert Matt Kriner, who recently assessed the NSN for the Albanese government, says the assets and connections uncovered by this masthead suggest Australia’s neo-Nazis have entered a dangerous new phase. “Historically, when fascist movements start to sequester themselves in compounds, particularly those that have already shown a fascination with violence, terrorists and weapons like the NSN, that makes them very dangerous,” Kriner said.

He and other far-right researchers say authorities should now target the group the same way they had organised crime syndicates: “By following the money.”

Sewell’s new home – described by one gushing realtor as a mountain chalet – boasts more than 10 bedrooms, as well as a gym and pool on a 19-acre block. Up a long snaking drive, the main house is screened from the road by thick bush and security fences, but enjoys soaring hilltop views of Melbourne.

The NSN has long been trying to acquire land to build “white homestead” compounds from which to grow a racist ethno-state. Two sources close to the group, speaking anonymously for safety reasons, said other neo-Nazis were living at the estate with Sewell and his family. This masthead separately connected several men associated with the NSN to the address.

While on bail, Sewell is barred from associating with about a dozen neo-Nazis charged over a violent attack that Sewell allegedly led on an Indigenous camp last year. But his living arrangements with others in the group do not appear to have drawn scrutiny from authorities.

In outlawing the NSN as a hate group on May 15, Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke noted that they had continued to operate in the shadows, “phoenixing” under new names and forms rather than disbanding as they claimed.

Documents recently filed in the High Court by Sewell in his fight to overturn the new laws confirm that the NSN never dissolved its political party wing, “White Australia”, of which Sewell remains president. And records filed by White Australia list the mansion – Sewell’s home – as their new headquarters.

The mansion and the mystery investor
In late January, when Sewell told the public his NSN was disbanding, more than 100 of his followers descended on a Melbourne oval for their last official training session.

Among the sea of swastika tattoos and mullets gathered around Sewell that afternoon, this masthead identified a scattering of millionaires.

One of them, photographed wearing the distinctive white wristband denoting long-term membership of the NSN, was Sewell’s mystery “investor”: Martin Featherstone.

Featherstone, 45, has inherited his family’s trucking company wealth and owns millions of dollars in property in the state’s north-east, including another $3.5 million mansion just minutes down the road from the compound where Sewell is living.

The private school-educated Featherstone describes himself as a “white nationalist” and “racist” online, and has been pictured marching alongside neo-Nazis at recent rallies.

For more than a decade he helped manage his family’s multimillion-dollar logistics company. But Featherstone no longer appears to be working. “I’m in a privileged position,” he wrote in April on X of his decision to continue “speaking out” for the NSN when other neo-Nazis had lost their jobs after being unmasked. “I can’t be fired or ‘cancelled’. I choose not to be anonymous to (hopefully) lend some weight of authenticity.”

The hunt for Sewell’s compound began late last year, when NSN leadership announced to the group that “someone has bought us a place in Victoria”, according to two sources familiar with the discussion. “It’s a momentous moment for the org,” neo-Nazis Joel Davis and Jack Eltis told recruits.

Soon after, Sewell spoke on a livestream about a property “the org had been gifted” where he was now living, about 40 minutes from the city, as well as his plans to acquire a pub through another cleanskin “investor”.

Real estate sales, and a recent tip-off, pointed to a mansion acquired by a shell company in 2025. That company is jointly owned by Featherstone and his elderly mother. Sewell and his associates have since been spotted in the neighbourhood. Some left a digital trail too, even reviewing nearby restaurants. Documents obtained last month confirmed the address as White Australia’s HQ.

This masthead does not suggest Featherstone’s mother is aware of how the property is being used or holds neo-Nazi views herself. Featherstone did not respond to questions before deadline.

The mansion, with its separate living quarters, is intended to operate as a central hub for the neo-Nazi group, according to insiders, with fight training and education. It will be modelled on American “white homestead” enclaves, including those run by the fascist group Patriot Front, whose members the NSN have hosted in Australia.

Priority boarding has been given to men with families, as younger recruits are placed in sharehouses rented by the group elsewhere through “friends of the org”. One member has even been allowed to bring his dog to the compound “for security”, though Sewell dislikes pets.

“Our first investment has been housing,” Sewell said in December of the NSN and the “significant money” from “big investors” he claimed it had begun to attract, laughing at media theories that he had “been living out of a caravan”. “We’re being looked after,” he said. “I’m sure there’ll be a different type of smear coming out in the next couple months years about where I’m living now.”

Soon, Sewell promised, the group would have even more “protected rentals” like this, owned by members and associates, to house its “warriors”.

Featherstone is certainly a sympathetic landlord. He frequently espouses extreme views online – from nuking Israel and “stomping out” people of colour to executing “traitors” and “putting parliaments to the sword”. In secret NSN chats leaked to this masthead, Featherstone also joined in the neo-Nazi group’s violent discussions, including about running over Indian people with cars.

When asked for a response to this story, Sewell did not deny his plans for the compound but reiterated claims that the media and government were behaving “immorally” ahead of his High Court showdown.

“It is obvious your network of traitors are nervous about the potential fallout from a High Court decision to challenge the hate speech legislation and are therefore engaging in a smear campaign to cover your tracks.”

Former AFP counter-terrorism detective John Coyne, who once infiltrated white supremacist compounds himself, says that Sewell’s new headquarters calls to mind the strongholds of American neo-Nazis. That includes terror cell The Order as well as the Ku Klux Klan at its height – two groups openly lionised by the NSN.

“Of course, one man’s secret military compound is another’s house in the ’burbs,” Coyne said. But the possibility of guns on the Melbourne property was particularly worthy of investigation, he added.

Sewell has previously spoken online of needing to put guns “in other people’s names” and the difficulties of being unable to own many assets, given he is blacklisted by most banks for his neo-Nazi activity.

The government’s crackdown on the NSN was designed to “choke the fire of oxygen”, Coyne said. But instead, beneath all that smoke, the group has been revealed to have “a far bigger ecosystem than we’d have expected”. “What you’ve found shows there’s a network of people with dirty secrets.”

Wealthy associates
Indeed, Featherstone is not the only wealthy figure this masthead has identified in the orbit of the country’s most notorious neo-Nazi.

In August, when Sewell led the March for Australia anti-immigration rally in Melbourne and addressed a crowd of thousands from the steps of Parliament House, many of his rich friends were there with him.

To one side, in an oversized peacoat and sunglasses, was Hugo Lennon, the Scotch College graduate and scion of one of Australia’s wealthiest property development families turned far-right influencer. Lennon had helped Sewell organise the rallies around the country, playing the “concerned centrist” publicly while taking part in secret NSN chats and planning online, as revealed last year.

Beside him was another key March organiser, who can now be unmasked as wealthy race car driver and pilot Yassin Albarri.

The 26-year-old owns a cargo airline which claims to have its own fleet of planes, and in 2022 ran as a Victorian candidate for Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party (UAP).

Corporate records reveal Albarri has now started a company with one of the NSN’s most ardent members, Jake Crockett. Crockett is himself facing charges for the NSN attack on an Indigenous camp that followed that August march, as the rally descended into violence across Melbourne.

Albarri has been frequently identified and photographed mixing with neo-Nazis at rallies the NSN has helped organise since, including a former member of the terrorist group Combat 18. He has served as the rallies’ police liaison and, behind the scenes, pictures place him at meetings hosted by senior NSN figures.

During Albarri’s federal election campaign he worked with neo-Nazi associates such as Stu von Moger, who were then helping run security for the UAP.

But he’s also close with members of the Liberal Party, frequently pictured with party organisers and volunteers on social media, dining in members’ rooms and VIP boxes.

Albarri started a company called Rosetta Entertainment in September last year with the NSN’s Crockett as a co-founder and part-owner. Albarri did not respond to questions about the nature of the business or his dealings with the NSN before deadline. But it is not suggested he was a member of the group himself.

Then there is the man in the white hat.

Introducing Sewell to the rally crowd that day in August, from a podium built by the neo-Nazis especially for the occasion, was a red-haired figure with a striking hat – and moustache.

The same man, who was later filmed helping Sewell coordinate the March, also appeared in pictures released by the neo-Nazi group months earlier of its hiking trips, and would be seen with march organisers such as Albarri at other NSN-organised rallies. In footage of a neo-Nazi protest on Australia Day 2025 the same man appears, in the same white hat, shaking hands with white supremacists such as Blair Cottrell. A year on, he was also photographed at the NSN’s final training – only this time he was clad all in black.

This masthead, along with researchers at the anti-fascist White Rose Society, have now identified him as David Roberts, the son of a gun dealer, pilot and inventor. His family hold considerable property and wealth in regional Victoria, including their own airplanes and a 300-acre estate, and have obtained hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal government grants in recent years as they expand their aviation business. It is not suggested his family hold neo-Nazi views themselves.

Neo-Nazis, such as the former dentist Ian Lomax, have also appeared alongside Roberts in recent pictures from the axe-throwing association where he serves as secretary. Roberts has been contacted for comment.

Ferraris for the Fuhrer
Sewell’s rich associates bring more than just money. Among his entourage at the marches in August were an array of far-right influencers – all streaming to their hundreds of thousands of followers.

Concealed behind racing sunglasses was “Sir Doug” as he is known online – Lennon’s long-time collaborator – who has now been identified as Melbourne stockbroker Mitchell Hobbs.

Hobbs was also photographed at the neo-Nazis’ training session in January.

He and Lennon recently toured the US together for the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Texas, mixing with everyone from Trump MAGA acolytes to a former leader of extremist group The Proud Boys.

Instagram reels show the young Australians driving flash cars, partying on rooftops and holding guns. Pictured alongside them is North American “looksmaxxer” Jack Gordon, who runs his own neo-Nazi bookstore advocating “accelerationism” – the neo-Nazi goal of speeding up societal collapse to start a race war.

This masthead recently revealed the extent of the NSN’s entanglement with terrorists and accelerationist groups overseas, some of whom have trained its members and given it money. The investigation also uncovered a secret chatroom run by neo-Nazis and March for Australia organisers – including Lennon – where an alleged $10,000 plot to kidnap Prime Minister Anthony Albanese had led to multiple police raids.

Lennon has always said he does not advocate violence nor take part in threats online but has refused to distance himself from the NSN. Hobbs has been contacted for comment.

In Lennon’s recent travels across the US, the 20-something influencer has been spruiking Sewell to America’s conservative establishment, speaking at conferences of the NSN leader as “a household name … at the forefront” of Australian politics.

International far-right groups, in part, helped Sewell raise a war chest of more than $150,000 in just a few days this year to fund his High Court challenge to Australia’s extremism crackdown. They also contributed to earlier fundraisers set up by Sewell for his “community land project” to “create a home for white people in Australia”.

But Sewell has been drawing on the connections of another wealthy recruit too: the “manfluencer” – and former porn star – Stirling Cooper.

Cooper, an Australian pharmacy graduate turned sex coach and penis supplement salesman, is a close associate of misogynist provocateur and accused sex trafficker Andrew Tate. You can find Cooper splashed across the internet on Tate’s private jets and at his parties around the world, or else driving his Ferraris through Marbella, Miami or Melbourne.

But within the secretive ranks of the NSN, Cooper is known as “Nige” – for his real name Nigel Clifford – regularly spotted at neo-Nazi training in his home of Perth as well as at key national events, including the group’s “final training” in Melbourne this year.

Records obtained by this masthead reveal Cooper is also the owner of website domains set up by the NSN. Cooper registered the group’s original White Australia political site in 2025 using his real name, through one of two companies he owns that are associated with the NSN called “Antipodes Associates”. Two sources within the neo-Nazi group say Cooper has gifted significant sums of money to its members and has helped it set up apparent shell companies like Antipodes.

Cooper ignored repeated requests for comment.

Last year, this masthead revealed how he was helping the NSN artificially inflate its reach online using a Tate-style legion of unbranded accounts to post propaganda. While the NSN has since disbanded officially, those “hype edits” continue to circulate on social media, drawing in young men.

And, as Sewell’s own star power in the “manosphere” rises, the neo-Nazi leader has been appearing on the podcasts of other influencer friends of Cooper’s such as Elijah Schaffer and Jake Shields.

For Kriner, it’s a familiar collision. “The early influencers of the manosphere also created their own white supremacist compounds, like Wolves Of Vinland, and its feeder org Operation Werewolf,” he says.

Several Australians associated with the NSN were themselves part of international militant group Operation Werewolf, leaked chat logs reveal.

On their CPAC pilgrimage in March, Lennon and Hobbs heard from former Trump strategist Steve Bannon – who has been trying to set up white training compounds across Europe himself, including a “gladiator school” in an 800-year-old Italian monastery.

“Sewell is positioning himself on the global stage to be such a critical linchpin for rage against the Left that the moment any setback happens to him, he can use that to ignite a global audience – for fundraising, for access, maybe even egress out of Australia,” says Kriner.

“The people they’ve been trying to reach in the US even be in the ear of this Trump administration convincing them that Sewell’s being persecuted unfairly.”

White enclaves, politics – and welfare
Of course, unlike his jet-setting mates, Sewell insists that he “doesn’t care about money”. He encourages his followers to claim welfare support from the government – as his own family does. Last year, while arguing in court to be bailed to a “sharehouse”, he claimed that he collected only about $1000 a month from the membership dues of his 300-odd neo-Nazi recruits.

Yet, there was already enough cash flowing through the NSN in 2024 that nearly $50,000 stolen over the course of that year went unnoticed for many months (before the member accused of skimming was discovered and excommunicated).

Of late, Sewell has begun boasting of those with serious wealth and connections joining his group – including “sleeper agents” he claims are also members of the Liberal Party attending its meetings. On livestreams, Sewell has said a well-connected barrister is giving him cheap legal advice, and that a political powerbroker is advising his continued efforts to form a neo-Nazi party. He says he is “constantly networking”, including in his new neighbourhood, and speaks of a contact book of sympathetic bosses and businesses offering his neo-Nazis jobs.

Sewell is now being represented by former federal Liberal MP Peter King in his High Court fight, though it is understood King was obliged to accept the case under a rule that stops barristers from refusing a brief they are in a position to take up.

In a livestream on X in May, a former Victorian state Liberal Party organiser openly bragged of getting “jobs for those boys” in the NSN, as she joined in discussion with neo-Nazis about how best to achieve their “accelerationist” and “revolutionary” goals and run their “parallel societies”.

Experts like Coyne call the collection of influential people now quietly helping Sewell, both at home and overseas, “alarming”.

But he expects it will be difficult for Australian authorities to seize the NSN’s assets, even under the new hate speech regime. “They’d just say it’s theirs personally,” Coyne says. “It’s another grey zone, awful but lawful. And, in all this, we still have to protect freedom of thought.”

At the compound, White Rose fear Sewell will now be able to exert even more control over his followers and their families under the NSN’s cult-like model.

Sewell advocates for men to rule “large, white families”, homeschooling their kids and strictly managing their women – down to their makeup and clothes. (“Incidences of female infidelity, we’ve dealt with it in house,” he said on a recent stream. “Just 100 per cent cull, excommunicated. If we were in the wild, you’d starve to death.” )

The neo-Nazi leader now has plans to expand his property portfolio in the east.

“It’s not unfathomable to me that Sewell might be setting up his own Waco in Australia,” says Kriner. “Particularly if he feels protected by rich benefactors.”

https://www.theage.com.au/national/rich-mates-secret-mansions-australia-s-millionaire-nazis-revealed-20260428-p5zrm6.html

$2.5M for a 10 bedroom house on 19 acres within view of Melbourne sounds very cheap to me.

The land may have restrictions on subdivision so it’s worth less than usual.

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Date: 5/06/2026 15:21:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2398428
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

yeah we wouldn’t want to pay through the nose to live near fascists either

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Date: 5/06/2026 17:16:26
From: dv
ID: 2398465
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

5 months out from the Victorian election, various anonymous Labor members are saying that a leadership spill is imminent.

The polling is just about 50 – 50 on aggregate. This would probably be the last chance to depose Allen as premier, as any further attempts would be imprudently close to the election. Personally I doubt that a leadership change would fix anything.

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Date: 5/06/2026 17:29:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2398473
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

so australia will be one nation under god finally

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Date: 5/06/2026 17:36:12
From: party_pants
ID: 2398480
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

so australia will be one nation under god finally

Hopefully not. We are more like a federation of city-states.

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Date: 5/06/2026 17:38:35
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2398486
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

so australia will be one nation under god finally

Praise the Lord.

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Date: 5/06/2026 17:39:30
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2398487
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

so australia will be one nation under god finally

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Date: 5/06/2026 17:40:03
From: ms spock
ID: 2398488
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

More Australians arrested by Israel.

Link

2 minutes.

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Date: 5/06/2026 18:38:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 2398518
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Cripes, haven’t seen those things for years! I remember that Penrith – Sydney one.

Heck. It was a concrete one. The real old ones were wood.

There was one in Western Sydney that was sandstone, with Roman Numerals on it IIRC.

They had plenty of sandstone in Sydney.

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Date: 5/06/2026 18:46:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 2398527
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/05/barnaby-joyce-sky-news-interview-one-nation-housing-policy-backflip

One Nation moving into disaster mode sounds very watchable to me.

Bring it on.

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Date: 5/06/2026 19:27:20
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2398551
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cheesus. We all knew he was a colossal f’wit but he just has to keep on ramping it up more and more as time goes by.

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Date: 5/06/2026 19:29:50
From: dv
ID: 2398556
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

I can’t read Jarrod Bleijie without thinking of Joe Bjelke.

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Date: 5/06/2026 19:40:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 2398561
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


I can’t read Jarrod Bleijie without thinking of Joe Bjelke.

I knew his grandfather and father quite well before they moved to Qld.

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Date: 6/06/2026 13:13:32
From: dv
ID: 2398721
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 6/06/2026 17:08:09
From: dv
ID: 2398767
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

My modest proposal is that they scrap the stadium and buy some chinooks to airlift quadparkers into the Derwent.

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Date: 6/06/2026 17:48:33
From: Michael V
ID: 2398780
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


My modest proposal is that they scrap the stadium and buy some chinooks to airlift quadparkers into the Derwent.


When your 15-year-old car is still worth at least a quarter of a million dollars, you might feel a little entitled.

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Date: 6/06/2026 18:44:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2398792
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


dv said:

My modest proposal is that they scrap the stadium and buy some chinooks to airlift quadparkers into the Derwent.


When your 15-year-old car is still worth at least a quarter of a million dollars, you might feel a little entitled.

Clearly doesn’t want anyone parking too close to his car.

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Date: 6/06/2026 19:49:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2398816
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Have all ALDI shops stopped automatically giving people receipts?

My dad asked for a receipt and noticed two items swiped but he had only one, he pointed this out and then got a refund.

But it appears that some cashiers are abusing it by sizing people up and seeing if they notice, and if successful they pocket money on the side. This could add up to a sizable amount over a week. If store managers are in on it then more cashiers could be involved then it could add up to thousands being fleeced in this manner.

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Date: 6/06/2026 19:56:52
From: party_pants
ID: 2398817
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Tau.Neutrino said:


Have all ALDI shops stopped automatically giving people receipts?

My dad asked for a receipt and noticed two items swiped but he had only one, he pointed this out and then got a refund.

But it appears that some cashiers are abusing it by sizing people up and seeing if they notice, and if successful they pocket money on the side. This could add up to a sizable amount over a week. If store managers are in on it then more cashiers could be involved then it could add up to thousands being fleeced in this manner.

Nah, I can’t see how that would work. if it scans twice it scans twice, and the ALDI computer systems track the payments. I can’t see how a cashier can deliberately miss-scan things and then pocket the money without it throwing the till receipts out of balance.

Most people pay electronically rather than cash these days too, so that adds another layer of complexity to the alleged fraud. How does a checkout operator pocket any money from an electronic transaction? I can’t see it.

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Date: 6/06/2026 20:22:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2398818
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Have all ALDI shops stopped automatically giving people receipts?

My dad asked for a receipt and noticed two items swiped but he had only one, he pointed this out and then got a refund.

But it appears that some cashiers are abusing it by sizing people up and seeing if they notice, and if successful they pocket money on the side. This could add up to a sizable amount over a week. If store managers are in on it then more cashiers could be involved then it could add up to thousands being fleeced in this manner.

Nah, I can’t see how that would work. if it scans twice it scans twice, and the ALDI computer systems track the payments. I can’t see how a cashier can deliberately miss-scan things and then pocket the money without it throwing the till receipts out of balance.

Most people pay electronically rather than cash these days too, so that adds another layer of complexity to the alleged fraud. How does a checkout operator pocket any money from an electronic transaction? I can’t see it.

don’t they have self check outs

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Date: 6/06/2026 20:24:00
From: party_pants
ID: 2398820
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Have all ALDI shops stopped automatically giving people receipts?

My dad asked for a receipt and noticed two items swiped but he had only one, he pointed this out and then got a refund.

But it appears that some cashiers are abusing it by sizing people up and seeing if they notice, and if successful they pocket money on the side. This could add up to a sizable amount over a week. If store managers are in on it then more cashiers could be involved then it could add up to thousands being fleeced in this manner.

Nah, I can’t see how that would work. if it scans twice it scans twice, and the ALDI computer systems track the payments. I can’t see how a cashier can deliberately miss-scan things and then pocket the money without it throwing the till receipts out of balance.

Most people pay electronically rather than cash these days too, so that adds another layer of complexity to the alleged fraud. How does a checkout operator pocket any money from an electronic transaction? I can’t see it.

don’t they have self check outs

My local ALDI does not. They are all human checkouts.

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Date: 6/06/2026 20:25:57
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2398821
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Have all ALDI shops stopped automatically giving people receipts?

My dad asked for a receipt and noticed two items swiped but he had only one, he pointed this out and then got a refund.

But it appears that some cashiers are abusing it by sizing people up and seeing if they notice, and if successful they pocket money on the side. This could add up to a sizable amount over a week. If store managers are in on it then more cashiers could be involved then it could add up to thousands being fleeced in this manner.

Nah, I can’t see how that would work. if it scans twice it scans twice, and the ALDI computer systems track the payments. I can’t see how a cashier can deliberately miss-scan things and then pocket the money without it throwing the till receipts out of balance.

Most people pay electronically rather than cash these days too, so that adds another layer of complexity to the alleged fraud. How does a checkout operator pocket any money from an electronic transaction? I can’t see it.

Might have been a machine error, but they are usually reliable, dunno.

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Date: 6/06/2026 20:29:10
From: party_pants
ID: 2398822
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Have all ALDI shops stopped automatically giving people receipts?

My dad asked for a receipt and noticed two items swiped but he had only one, he pointed this out and then got a refund.

But it appears that some cashiers are abusing it by sizing people up and seeing if they notice, and if successful they pocket money on the side. This could add up to a sizable amount over a week. If store managers are in on it then more cashiers could be involved then it could add up to thousands being fleeced in this manner.

Nah, I can’t see how that would work. if it scans twice it scans twice, and the ALDI computer systems track the payments. I can’t see how a cashier can deliberately miss-scan things and then pocket the money without it throwing the till receipts out of balance.

Most people pay electronically rather than cash these days too, so that adds another layer of complexity to the alleged fraud. How does a checkout operator pocket any money from an electronic transaction? I can’t see it.

Might have been a machine error, but they are usually reliable, dunno.

I think it was probably just human error in the scanning. Passed the barcode over the scanner twice, probably by accident.

It got noticed, and then resolved.

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Date: 6/06/2026 20:31:17
From: party_pants
ID: 2398823
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

Nah, I can’t see how that would work. if it scans twice it scans twice, and the ALDI computer systems track the payments. I can’t see how a cashier can deliberately miss-scan things and then pocket the money without it throwing the till receipts out of balance.

Most people pay electronically rather than cash these days too, so that adds another layer of complexity to the alleged fraud. How does a checkout operator pocket any money from an electronic transaction? I can’t see it.

Might have been a machine error, but they are usually reliable, dunno.

I think it was probably just human error in the scanning. Passed the barcode over the scanner twice, probably by accident.

It got noticed, and then resolved.

Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. I had an item yesterday scan for $12 when the price tag was $25.
I noticed. I had an idea in my head how much it should have cost. I checked the receipt when I got back in the car.

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Date: 6/06/2026 20:32:56
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2398825
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Have all ALDI shops stopped automatically giving people receipts?

My dad asked for a receipt and noticed two items swiped but he had only one, he pointed this out and then got a refund.

But it appears that some cashiers are abusing it by sizing people up and seeing if they notice, and if successful they pocket money on the side. This could add up to a sizable amount over a week. If store managers are in on it then more cashiers could be involved then it could add up to thousands being fleeced in this manner.

Nah, I can’t see how that would work. if it scans twice it scans twice, and the ALDI computer systems track the payments. I can’t see how a cashier can deliberately miss-scan things and then pocket the money without it throwing the till receipts out of balance.

Most people pay electronically rather than cash these days too, so that adds another layer of complexity to the alleged fraud. How does a checkout operator pocket any money from an electronic transaction? I can’t see it.

Might have been a machine error, but they are usually reliable, dunno.

I hope it’s only individuals doing it somethings going on.

Two recorded scans for one $4 item that’s $8, with $4 going somewhere else.

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Date: 6/06/2026 20:36:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2398827
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

Nah, I can’t see how that would work. if it scans twice it scans twice, and the ALDI computer systems track the payments. I can’t see how a cashier can deliberately miss-scan things and then pocket the money without it throwing the till receipts out of balance.

Most people pay electronically rather than cash these days too, so that adds another layer of complexity to the alleged fraud. How does a checkout operator pocket any money from an electronic transaction? I can’t see it.

Might have been a machine error, but they are usually reliable, dunno.

I hope it’s only individuals doing it somethings going on.

Two recorded scans for one $4 item that’s $8, with $4 going somewhere else.

I’ll keep tabs on it.

Hopefully it’s nothing.

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Date: 6/06/2026 20:39:03
From: party_pants
ID: 2398828
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

Nah, I can’t see how that would work. if it scans twice it scans twice, and the ALDI computer systems track the payments. I can’t see how a cashier can deliberately miss-scan things and then pocket the money without it throwing the till receipts out of balance.

Most people pay electronically rather than cash these days too, so that adds another layer of complexity to the alleged fraud. How does a checkout operator pocket any money from an electronic transaction? I can’t see it.

Might have been a machine error, but they are usually reliable, dunno.

I hope it’s only individuals doing it somethings going on.

Two recorded scans for one $4 item that’s $8, with $4 going somewhere else.

It ends up with ALDI. Two items sold as per the till receipt, one extra item on the shelf at the next stocktake count. These might be weeks or months apart. It will be a stock adjustment on their books somewhere.

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Date: 6/06/2026 20:44:31
From: btm
ID: 2398830
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Might have been a machine error, but they are usually reliable, dunno.

I think it was probably just human error in the scanning. Passed the barcode over the scanner twice, probably by accident.

It got noticed, and then resolved.

Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. I had an item yesterday scan for $12 when the price tag was $25.
I noticed. I had an idea in my head how much it should have cost. I checked the receipt when I got back in the car.

All human-operated checkouts are prone to errors. I always ask for, and check, receipts. Sometimes I find mistakes (both ways: I’ve been charged twice for something or haven’t been charged for something.) Most places are happy to correct the error.

The worst for overcharging (IME) is Chemist Warehouse. Five out of the last seven times I’ve been there they’ve overcharged me. To be fair, they have reimbursed me when I’ve gone back with the receipt.

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Date: 6/06/2026 20:46:56
From: Kingy
ID: 2398832
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Might have been a machine error, but they are usually reliable, dunno.

I think it was probably just human error in the scanning. Passed the barcode over the scanner twice, probably by accident.

It got noticed, and then resolved.

Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. I had an item yesterday scan for $12 when the price tag was $25.
I noticed. I had an idea in my head how much it should have cost. I checked the receipt when I got back in the car.

I got a six inch sub today in Busso, asked for extra bacon, saw it included, but by the time it had been assembled by 4 different people, they forgot it was there and I got charged the standard price.

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Date: 6/06/2026 20:47:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2398833
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

btm said:


party_pants said:

party_pants said:

I think it was probably just human error in the scanning. Passed the barcode over the scanner twice, probably by accident.

It got noticed, and then resolved.

Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. I had an item yesterday scan for $12 when the price tag was $25.
I noticed. I had an idea in my head how much it should have cost. I checked the receipt when I got back in the car.

All human-operated checkouts are prone to errors. I always ask for, and check, receipts. Sometimes I find mistakes (both ways: I’ve been charged twice for something or haven’t been charged for something.) Most places are happy to correct the error.

The worst for overcharging (IME) is Chemist Warehouse. Five out of the last seven times I’ve been there they’ve overcharged me. To be fair, they have reimbursed me when I’ve gone back with the receipt.

That’s a bit worrying.

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Date: 6/06/2026 21:51:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2398848
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

Nah, I can’t see how that would work. if it scans twice it scans twice, and the ALDI computer systems track the payments. I can’t see how a cashier can deliberately miss-scan things and then pocket the money without it throwing the till receipts out of balance.

Most people pay electronically rather than cash these days too, so that adds another layer of complexity to the alleged fraud. How does a checkout operator pocket any money from an electronic transaction? I can’t see it.

don’t they have self check outs

My local ALDI does not. They are all human checkouts.

sorry we mean the human customer does the checking themselves, we’ve used those

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Date: 7/06/2026 08:58:41
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2398894
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Carrick Ryan

Put aside One Nation’s policies for a moment… I don’t think Australians are asking the right questions. This is a long read, but I feel like its important to lay out exactly what answers we need before Australians vote in another Federal election.

To be clear, I think it’s totally reasonable for Australians to care about our immigration intake. There is a completely fair and unprejudiced argument that any nation should only take in as many as it can actually absorb without making life worse for everyone. I’ve argued why Australia’s skilled migrant intake actually makes us all wealthier and our nation stronger, but that is a discussion for another time.

As someone who spent a decade investigating islamic terror networks in Sydney, I absolutely also understand the social implications of allowing someone into the country who fundamentally disagrees with the principles of secular democracy. How we control that is a question I’m yet to find a satisfactory answer to.

I am happy to have those policy discussions with anyone. But there is something about One Nation’s sudden rise that just doesn’t sit right with me.

In the 2025 election, One Nation’s primary vote was only 6.4%, which was actually it’s best result in decades. It’s 2019 primary vote was less than half that.

Barely a year later, the party is now polling at somewhere between 25% and 35%. This is a ridiculously unprecedented surge in support for a party that has existed on the fringes for decades. So what happened?

To start with, we need to pay closer attention to how the billionaire class buy political influence. It is something that is so endemic within the US political system that even billionaire Presidents rely on even wealthier billionaires to fund their campaigns. Because, as Congressman Thomas Massie just found out, if the billionaires want to invest in your downfall, there is no price they can’t afford.

But it goes well beyond campaign donations, it’s about the influence that powerful oligarchs have in shaping public opinion. The 2016 elections demonstrated how foreign intelligence agencies could weaponise social media to dictate the outcomes of elections… do you really think the most power hungry oligarchs in the world weren’t paying attention?
Why do you think Musk spent twice the market value to buy Twitter and runs it at a loss? He’s not a free speech absolutist, several studies have revealed how he manipulates the algorithms to indoctrinate users towards his far right ideology.

The platform’s own researchers found that its recommendation algorithm amplified content from mainstream right-wing politicians and news outlets more than equivalent left-wing sources.

A 2026 paper published in Nature followed nearly 5,000 users and found that exposure to X’s algorithmic feed shifted political opinion towards more conservative positions, particularly regarding policy priorities, perceptions of criminal investigations into Donald Trump, and views on the war in Ukraine

It’s why Trump quickly moved to ensure the owners of both Facebook and YouTube were offered sufficient incentives to fall obediently behind his administration, and to play by his rules. We do not know how these massive media organisations interfere to persuade the masses how to think… but we know for a fact they have that ability.

We know because Musk openly bragged about it. Remember when Trump and Musk were having their juvenile tiff? Musk posted: “Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate.”

So what does this have to do with One Nation?

Well, just as the US has its powerful right wing billionaire oligarchs, so do we.

Gina Rinehart is Australia’s richest person. She attained her wealth through birth right, inheriting her empire from a guy who quite literally advocated for the genocide of Indigenous Australians. A position that Gina has never condemned by the way.

Rinehart is MAGA through and through, a Mar-a-Lago insider, and an unashamed advocate for bringing Trump’s policies to Australia. Rinehart wanted Peter Dutton to be the man that did this, but in the wake of Trump’s abrasive start to his 2nd term, Australia’s voters were understandably… wary.

In response to that disastrous election, the Liberal Party attempted to work its way back to the political centre with the election of a more moderate leader. Rinehart was livid, and even released a press statement complaining that “The left media did a very successful effort, frightening many in the Liberal Party from anything Trump, and away from any Trump-like policies,” and added that the Liberal Party had become the “Me Too” party after electing its first female leader.

Rinehart made no secret of her view that this was the opposite direction of where she wanted the party to go… so she began directing her resources toward One Nation.

In November 2025, Rinehart flew Hanson and her Chief of Staff, James Ashby, to Florida in her private jet, where they stayed at Rinehart’s mansion, before attending several events over the course of a week at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence.

This included Hanson featuring as a guest speaker at a CPAC conference where she, unsurprisingly, gave a growing endorsement of Trump’s policies, and spoke of her desire to replicate them within Australia. Rinehart, meanwhile, was spotted in the background of another guest’s social media photos reading through documents with Trump.

Since that meeting, One Nation’s primary vote has more than tripled.

This is despite Trump’s popularity being in free fall in both Australia and the US. Other than the Bondi Terror attacks, there has been no real fundamental societal shifts that would explain a sudden surge in anti-immigration sentiment in Australia, especially as net migration had already fallen by more than 40% from its post-COVID peak by the time this surge in popularity began. Housing is, of course, a real concern for many Australians, but the available polling does not suggest One Nation’s rise is being driven by aspiring first-home buyers

Here is what I can’t get out of my head…

The Trump administration’s 2025 National Security Strategy outlined how it believed Europe was facing “the real and stark prospect of civilisational erasure” due to its immigration policies, before ominously declaring its intent to “cultivate resistance to Europe’s current trajectory within European nations”.

Most experts understood this to indicate that the US State Department, and the CIA, would be providing material support to right wing nationalist movements in Europe…

Within that context, it’s pretty reasonable to ask the question… is the US government providing any support to One Nation?

One in four Australians now get most of their news from social media, for younger Australians that figure climbs to 40%. I know for a fact that the algorithms routinely amplify or suppress my content depending on what topic I’m discussing (I’m pretty sure I know how this post will go).

Noting that Musk, Zuckerberg, and the CEO of Google (the owners of YouTube) all attended Trump’s inauguration, it’s also reasonable to ask if they are complicit in executing the stated foreign policy objectives of the US government. The more we understand about how Trump works, it would almost be courageous of them to refuse.

Pete Hegseth threatened to invoke the Defense Production Act against Anthropic when they initially refused to let their AI model, Claude, be used for mass domestic surveillance or fully autonomous weapons by the US military. What kind of pressure is being applied to Meta as the FTC continues to pursue major antitrust action against them that could force Zuckerberg to break up his corporate empire?

…we don’t know

But considering Pauline Hanson already got busted by Al Jazeera in 2019 attempting to gain financial support from the NRA in return for weakening Australia’s gun laws, do you really think they’d say “no” to whatever support Trump was offering? Which does pose the obvious question… what would he get in return?

In the end, everyone has the right to vote for whoever they want, but I would hope that all voters would want to know if a foreign government was attempting to influence our democracy in any way.

Correlation isn’t causation, and all I can do is speculate, but One Nation’s popularity more than tripled after meeting with Trump, just as the US State Department published a strategy paper outlining how it will support right wing nationalist parties in Europe… it’s worth asking the question…

We need to know if the US government, or any US owned company, is offering material support to One Nation. An obvious place to start would be asking Hanson herself if any support has been offered… and ask her who won the 2020 US Presidential election while you’re at it.

But someone needs to start asking the questions.

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Date: 7/06/2026 10:16:01
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2398905
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:


Carrick Ryan

Put aside One Nation’s policies for a moment… I don’t think Australians are asking the right questions. This is a long read, but I feel like its important to lay out exactly what answers we need before Australians vote in another Federal election.

To be clear, I think it’s totally reasonable for Australians to care about our immigration intake. There is a completely fair and unprejudiced argument that any nation should only take in as many as it can actually absorb without making life worse for everyone. I’ve argued why Australia’s skilled migrant intake actually makes us all wealthier and our nation stronger, but that is a discussion for another time.

As someone who spent a decade investigating islamic terror networks in Sydney, I absolutely also understand the social implications of allowing someone into the country who fundamentally disagrees with the principles of secular democracy. How we control that is a question I’m yet to find a satisfactory answer to.

I am happy to have those policy discussions with anyone. But there is something about One Nation’s sudden rise that just doesn’t sit right with me.

In the 2025 election, One Nation’s primary vote was only 6.4%, which was actually it’s best result in decades. It’s 2019 primary vote was less than half that.

Barely a year later, the party is now polling at somewhere between 25% and 35%. This is a ridiculously unprecedented surge in support for a party that has existed on the fringes for decades. So what happened?

To start with, we need to pay closer attention to how the billionaire class buy political influence. It is something that is so endemic within the US political system that even billionaire Presidents rely on even wealthier billionaires to fund their campaigns. Because, as Congressman Thomas Massie just found out, if the billionaires want to invest in your downfall, there is no price they can’t afford.

But it goes well beyond campaign donations, it’s about the influence that powerful oligarchs have in shaping public opinion. The 2016 elections demonstrated how foreign intelligence agencies could weaponise social media to dictate the outcomes of elections… do you really think the most power hungry oligarchs in the world weren’t paying attention?
Why do you think Musk spent twice the market value to buy Twitter and runs it at a loss? He’s not a free speech absolutist, several studies have revealed how he manipulates the algorithms to indoctrinate users towards his far right ideology.

The platform’s own researchers found that its recommendation algorithm amplified content from mainstream right-wing politicians and news outlets more than equivalent left-wing sources.

A 2026 paper published in Nature followed nearly 5,000 users and found that exposure to X’s algorithmic feed shifted political opinion towards more conservative positions, particularly regarding policy priorities, perceptions of criminal investigations into Donald Trump, and views on the war in Ukraine

It’s why Trump quickly moved to ensure the owners of both Facebook and YouTube were offered sufficient incentives to fall obediently behind his administration, and to play by his rules. We do not know how these massive media organisations interfere to persuade the masses how to think… but we know for a fact they have that ability.

We know because Musk openly bragged about it. Remember when Trump and Musk were having their juvenile tiff? Musk posted: “Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate.”

So what does this have to do with One Nation?

Well, just as the US has its powerful right wing billionaire oligarchs, so do we.

Gina Rinehart is Australia’s richest person. She attained her wealth through birth right, inheriting her empire from a guy who quite literally advocated for the genocide of Indigenous Australians. A position that Gina has never condemned by the way.

Rinehart is MAGA through and through, a Mar-a-Lago insider, and an unashamed advocate for bringing Trump’s policies to Australia. Rinehart wanted Peter Dutton to be the man that did this, but in the wake of Trump’s abrasive start to his 2nd term, Australia’s voters were understandably… wary.

In response to that disastrous election, the Liberal Party attempted to work its way back to the political centre with the election of a more moderate leader. Rinehart was livid, and even released a press statement complaining that “The left media did a very successful effort, frightening many in the Liberal Party from anything Trump, and away from any Trump-like policies,” and added that the Liberal Party had become the “Me Too” party after electing its first female leader.

Rinehart made no secret of her view that this was the opposite direction of where she wanted the party to go… so she began directing her resources toward One Nation.

In November 2025, Rinehart flew Hanson and her Chief of Staff, James Ashby, to Florida in her private jet, where they stayed at Rinehart’s mansion, before attending several events over the course of a week at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence.

This included Hanson featuring as a guest speaker at a CPAC conference where she, unsurprisingly, gave a growing endorsement of Trump’s policies, and spoke of her desire to replicate them within Australia. Rinehart, meanwhile, was spotted in the background of another guest’s social media photos reading through documents with Trump.

Since that meeting, One Nation’s primary vote has more than tripled.

This is despite Trump’s popularity being in free fall in both Australia and the US. Other than the Bondi Terror attacks, there has been no real fundamental societal shifts that would explain a sudden surge in anti-immigration sentiment in Australia, especially as net migration had already fallen by more than 40% from its post-COVID peak by the time this surge in popularity began. Housing is, of course, a real concern for many Australians, but the available polling does not suggest One Nation’s rise is being driven by aspiring first-home buyers

Here is what I can’t get out of my head…

The Trump administration’s 2025 National Security Strategy outlined how it believed Europe was facing “the real and stark prospect of civilisational erasure” due to its immigration policies, before ominously declaring its intent to “cultivate resistance to Europe’s current trajectory within European nations”.

Most experts understood this to indicate that the US State Department, and the CIA, would be providing material support to right wing nationalist movements in Europe…

Within that context, it’s pretty reasonable to ask the question… is the US government providing any support to One Nation?

One in four Australians now get most of their news from social media, for younger Australians that figure climbs to 40%. I know for a fact that the algorithms routinely amplify or suppress my content depending on what topic I’m discussing (I’m pretty sure I know how this post will go).

Noting that Musk, Zuckerberg, and the CEO of Google (the owners of YouTube) all attended Trump’s inauguration, it’s also reasonable to ask if they are complicit in executing the stated foreign policy objectives of the US government. The more we understand about how Trump works, it would almost be courageous of them to refuse.

Pete Hegseth threatened to invoke the Defense Production Act against Anthropic when they initially refused to let their AI model, Claude, be used for mass domestic surveillance or fully autonomous weapons by the US military. What kind of pressure is being applied to Meta as the FTC continues to pursue major antitrust action against them that could force Zuckerberg to break up his corporate empire?

…we don’t know

But considering Pauline Hanson already got busted by Al Jazeera in 2019 attempting to gain financial support from the NRA in return for weakening Australia’s gun laws, do you really think they’d say “no” to whatever support Trump was offering? Which does pose the obvious question… what would he get in return?

In the end, everyone has the right to vote for whoever they want, but I would hope that all voters would want to know if a foreign government was attempting to influence our democracy in any way.

Correlation isn’t causation, and all I can do is speculate, but One Nation’s popularity more than tripled after meeting with Trump, just as the US State Department published a strategy paper outlining how it will support right wing nationalist parties in Europe… it’s worth asking the question…

We need to know if the US government, or any US owned company, is offering material support to One Nation. An obvious place to start would be asking Hanson herself if any support has been offered… and ask her who won the 2020 US Presidential election while you’re at it.

But someone needs to start asking the questions.

An interesting, and disturbing, read.

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Date: 7/06/2026 10:19:08
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2398906
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


JudgeMental said:

Carrick Ryan

Put aside One Nation’s policies for a moment… I don’t think Australians are asking the right questions. This is a long read, but I feel like its important to lay out exactly what answers we need before Australians vote in another Federal election.


An interesting, and disturbing, read.

About Carrick Ryan

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Date: 7/06/2026 11:22:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2398921
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

JudgeMental said:

Carrick Ryan

Put aside One Nation’s policies for a moment… I don’t think Australians are asking the right questions. This is a long read, but I feel like its important to lay out exactly what answers we need before Australians vote in another Federal election.


An interesting, and disturbing, read.

About Carrick Ryan

we mean this is not a new revelation

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Date: 7/06/2026 11:29:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2398925
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

An interesting, and disturbing, read.

About Carrick Ryan

we mean this is not a new revelation

Suppose not.

It doesn’t really answer why One Notion has the sudden surge in popularity either.

Still, worth ponderation.

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Date: 7/06/2026 11:32:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2398927
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

About Carrick Ryan

we mean this is not a new revelation

Suppose not.

It doesn’t really answer why One Notion has the sudden surge in popularity either.

Still, worth ponderation.

what

media manipulate public opinion

so they were successful

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Date: 7/06/2026 11:36:07
From: ms spock
ID: 2398929
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

About Carrick Ryan

we mean this is not a new revelation

Suppose not.

It doesn’t really answer why One Notion has the sudden surge in popularity either.

Still, worth ponderation.

Looking at Troll Farms around the world, along with automated AI Data Troll Farms l, both of which potentially can hack or control algorithms might be of interest.

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Date: 7/06/2026 11:39:21
From: kii
ID: 2398932
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

About Carrick Ryan

we mean this is not a new revelation

Suppose not.

It doesn’t really answer why One Notion has the sudden surge in popularity either.

Still, worth ponderation.

PH has clearly aligned herself with Trump, and too many Australians are caught up in the vile web he has spun.

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Date: 7/06/2026 18:19:23
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2399044
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Pauline Hanson says she has “walked in the shoes” of accused war criminal Ben Roberts-Smith but it wouldn’t be “fair” to ask him to stand for One Nation ahead of his trial.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-07/pauline-hanson-says-she-knows-how-ben-roberts-smith-feels/106769724

Goes to jail for electoral fraud, thinks she knows what it’s like to be a war criminal 😢 won’t someone think of Poorline??

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Date: 7/06/2026 18:35:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2399045
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Pauline Hanson says she has “walked in the shoes” of accused war criminal Ben Roberts-Smith but it wouldn’t be “fair” to ask him to stand for One Nation ahead of his trial.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-07/pauline-hanson-says-she-knows-how-ben-roberts-smith-feels/106769724

Goes to jail for electoral fraud, thinks she knows what it’s like to be a war criminal 😢 won’t someone think of Poorline??

fuck

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Date: 7/06/2026 18:39:55
From: party_pants
ID: 2399046
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Pauline Hanson says she has “walked in the shoes” of accused war criminal Ben Roberts-Smith but it wouldn’t be “fair” to ask him to stand for One Nation ahead of his trial.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-07/pauline-hanson-says-she-knows-how-ben-roberts-smith-feels/106769724

Goes to jail for electoral fraud, thinks she knows what it’s like to be a war criminal 😢 won’t someone think of Poorline??

I don’t see what the obsession is with BR-S and people thinking he should not have been charged, or that he should be pardoned. As if this is some kind of witch-hunt.

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Date: 7/06/2026 18:43:02
From: Woodie
ID: 2399048
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Divine Angel said:

Pauline Hanson says she has “walked in the shoes” of accused war criminal Ben Roberts-Smith but it wouldn’t be “fair” to ask him to stand for One Nation ahead of his trial.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-07/pauline-hanson-says-she-knows-how-ben-roberts-smith-feels/106769724

Goes to jail for electoral fraud, thinks she knows what it’s like to be a war criminal 😢 won’t someone think of Poorline??

I don’t see what the obsession is with BR-S and people thinking he should not have been charged, or that he should be pardoned. As if this is some kind of witch-hunt.


I demand a Royal Commission into the whole matter.

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Date: 7/06/2026 18:45:20
From: ms spock
ID: 2399051
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Pauline Hanson says she has “walked in the shoes” of accused war criminal Ben Roberts-Smith but it wouldn’t be “fair” to ask him to stand for One Nation ahead of his trial.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-07/pauline-hanson-says-she-knows-how-ben-roberts-smith-feels/106769724

Goes to jail for electoral fraud, thinks she knows what it’s like to be a war criminal 😢 won’t someone think of Poorline??

She misses 88% of votes. If she can’t turn up to vote…

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Date: 7/06/2026 18:48:33
From: ms spock
ID: 2399055
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Divine Angel said:

Pauline Hanson says she has “walked in the shoes” of accused war criminal Ben Roberts-Smith but it wouldn’t be “fair” to ask him to stand for One Nation ahead of his trial.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-07/pauline-hanson-says-she-knows-how-ben-roberts-smith-feels/106769724

Goes to jail for electoral fraud, thinks she knows what it’s like to be a war criminal 😢 won’t someone think of Poorline??

I don’t see what the obsession is with BR-S and people thinking he should not have been charged, or that he should be pardoned. As if this is some kind of witch-hunt.

I see it as that challenge to the idea of white men not being able to do what they want to, without consequences.

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Date: 7/06/2026 20:10:30
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2399094
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Divine Angel said:

Pauline Hanson says she has “walked in the shoes” of accused war criminal Ben Roberts-Smith but it wouldn’t be “fair” to ask him to stand for One Nation ahead of his trial.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-07/pauline-hanson-says-she-knows-how-ben-roberts-smith-feels/106769724

Goes to jail for electoral fraud, thinks she knows what it’s like to be a war criminal 😢 won’t someone think of Poorline??

I don’t see what the obsession is with BR-S and people thinking he should not have been charged, or that he should be pardoned. As if this is some kind of witch-hunt.

I caught the end of ‘MediaWatch’ doing a story about it and the suggestion by some journo(can’t recall who) that Andrew Hastie was one of his first accusers.

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Date: 7/06/2026 21:02:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2399107
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:

Pauline Hanson says she has “walked in the shoes” of accused war criminal Ben Roberts-Smith but it wouldn’t be “fair” to ask him to stand for One Nation ahead of his trial.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-07/pauline-hanson-says-she-knows-how-ben-roberts-smith-feels/106769724

Goes to jail for electoral fraud, thinks she knows what it’s like to be a war criminal 😢 won’t someone think of Poorline??

She misses 88% of votes. If she can’t turn up to vote…

wait do we think these fascists are going to make future governance about votes

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Date: 7/06/2026 23:50:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 2399123
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:

Pauline Hanson says she has “walked in the shoes” of accused war criminal Ben Roberts-Smith but it wouldn’t be “fair” to ask him to stand for One Nation ahead of his trial.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-07/pauline-hanson-says-she-knows-how-ben-roberts-smith-feels/106769724

Goes to jail for electoral fraud, thinks she knows what it’s like to be a war criminal 😢 won’t someone think of Poorline??

She misses 88% of votes. If she can’t turn up to vote…

wait do we think these fascists are going to make future governance about votes

Oh, so all those elections where she didn’t win were rigged?

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Date: 8/06/2026 00:04:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2399125
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

She misses 88% of votes. If she can’t turn up to vote…

wait do we think these fascists are going to make future governance about votes

Oh, so all those elections where she didn’t win were rigged?

that’sn’t what we meant

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Date: 8/06/2026 00:27:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 2399131
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

wait do we think these fascists are going to make future governance about votes

Oh, so all those elections where she didn’t win were rigged?

that’sn’t what we meant

So she’s not walking in Trumps shoes?

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Date: 8/06/2026 01:19:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2399135
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Oh, so all those elections where she didn’t win were rigged?

that’sn’t what we meant

So she’s not walking in Trumps shoes?

clown

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Date: 8/06/2026 17:44:37
From: dv
ID: 2399357
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Another good Newspoll for ONP, showing them slightly ahead of ALP on primaries, though slightly behind on 2pp.

2pps
ALP 53.5 v LNP 46.5
ALP 50.5 v ONP 49.5

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Date: 8/06/2026 17:48:52
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2399359
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Another good Newspoll for ONP, showing them slightly ahead of ALP on primaries, though slightly behind on 2pp.

2pps
ALP 53.5 v LNP 46.5
ALP 50.5 v ONP 49.5

Oh, let’s do a 2024 thing at the next election, and put ONP in government, just for shits and giggles.

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Date: 8/06/2026 17:56:13
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2399364
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Another good Newspoll for ONP, showing them slightly ahead of ALP on primaries, though slightly behind on 2pp.

2pps
ALP 53.5 v LNP 46.5
ALP 50.5 v ONP 49.5

What I don’t get is that not so long ago a large proportion of LNP voters would put ALP ahead of ONP, but now virtually all of them are switching to ONP.

So what have ALP done to drive middle of the road people away from voting for them?

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Date: 8/06/2026 17:58:17
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2399365
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Another good Newspoll for ONP, showing them slightly ahead of ALP on primaries, though slightly behind on 2pp.

2pps
ALP 53.5 v LNP 46.5
ALP 50.5 v ONP 49.5

What I don’t get is that not so long ago a large proportion of LNP voters would put ALP ahead of ONP, but now virtually all of them are switching to ONP.

So what have ALP done to drive middle of the road people away from voting for them?

I do not know, but they’d better find out soon.

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Date: 8/06/2026 19:18:17
From: dv
ID: 2399393
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Another good Newspoll for ONP, showing them slightly ahead of ALP on primaries, though slightly behind on 2pp.

2pps
ALP 53.5 v LNP 46.5
ALP 50.5 v ONP 49.5

What I don’t get is that not so long ago a large proportion of LNP voters would put ALP ahead of ONP, but now virtually all of them are switching to ONP.

So what have ALP done to drive middle of the road people away from voting for them?

I do not know, but they’d better find out soon.

I’m not still not at panic stations. The election is 2 years away.

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Date: 8/06/2026 19:26:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2399398
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What I don’t get is that not so long ago a large proportion of LNP voters would put ALP ahead of ONP, but now virtually all of them are switching to ONP.

So what have ALP done to drive middle of the road people away from voting for them?

I do not know, but they’d better find out soon.

I’m not still not at panic stations. The election is 2 years away.

Exactly, there is ample time for the LNP to recover.

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Date: 8/06/2026 19:27:41
From: dv
ID: 2399400
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Divine Angel said:

I do not know, but they’d better find out soon.

I’m not still not at panic stations. The election is 2 years away.

Exactly, there is ample time for the LNP to recover.

Unlit suplands all the way

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Date: 8/06/2026 20:54:04
From: dv
ID: 2399443
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Gambling odds on the next Aust Fed Election from sportsbet

ALP 1.78
LNP 3.30
Annie Other 5.00

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Date: 9/06/2026 12:59:21
From: dv
ID: 2399574
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Public inquiry into AUKUS is a landmark moment in Australia’s politics
Considering the government seems keen to avoid public debate about AUKUS, this inquiry could test the existence of any remaining appetite for the embattled project.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2026/06/09/aukus-public-inquiry-submarine-pact-viability/

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Date: 9/06/2026 13:11:03
From: Ian
ID: 2399579
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Public inquiry into AUKUS is a landmark moment in Australia’s politics
Considering the government seems keen to avoid public debate about AUKUS, this inquiry could test the existence of any remaining appetite for the embattled project.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2026/06/09/aukus-public-inquiry-submarine-pact-viability/

I was disappointed that Albo was too timid to go his first election without proposing a review of this stinker of a deal.

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Date: 9/06/2026 13:13:16
From: Cymek
ID: 2399580
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Ian said:


dv said:

Public inquiry into AUKUS is a landmark moment in Australia’s politics
Considering the government seems keen to avoid public debate about AUKUS, this inquiry could test the existence of any remaining appetite for the embattled project.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2026/06/09/aukus-public-inquiry-submarine-pact-viability/

I was disappointed that Albo was too timid to go his first election without proposing a review of this stinker of a deal.

The USA should be offering us compensation for the money we paid to the French for the cancelled deal

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Date: 9/06/2026 13:13:17
From: Cymek
ID: 2399581
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Ian said:


dv said:

Public inquiry into AUKUS is a landmark moment in Australia’s politics
Considering the government seems keen to avoid public debate about AUKUS, this inquiry could test the existence of any remaining appetite for the embattled project.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2026/06/09/aukus-public-inquiry-submarine-pact-viability/

I was disappointed that Albo was too timid to go his first election without proposing a review of this stinker of a deal.

The USA should be offering us compensation for the money we paid to the French for the cancelled deal

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Date: 9/06/2026 13:16:22
From: Ian
ID: 2399582
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


Ian said:

dv said:

Public inquiry into AUKUS is a landmark moment in Australia’s politics
Considering the government seems keen to avoid public debate about AUKUS, this inquiry could test the existence of any remaining appetite for the embattled project.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2026/06/09/aukus-public-inquiry-submarine-pact-viability/

I was disappointed that Albo was too timid to go his first election without proposing a review of this stinker of a deal.

The USA should be offering us compensation for the money we paid to the French for the cancelled deal

Say it again. War!…

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Date: 9/06/2026 13:22:02
From: buffy
ID: 2399584
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


Ian said:

dv said:

Public inquiry into AUKUS is a landmark moment in Australia’s politics
Considering the government seems keen to avoid public debate about AUKUS, this inquiry could test the existence of any remaining appetite for the embattled project.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2026/06/09/aukus-public-inquiry-submarine-pact-viability/

I was disappointed that Albo was too timid to go his first election without proposing a review of this stinker of a deal.

The USA should be offering us compensation for the money we paid to the French for the cancelled deal

I think we should just ask for a refund of our deposit and start from scratch with a supplier who can supply.

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Date: 9/06/2026 13:39:32
From: Cymek
ID: 2399586
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

buffy said:


Cymek said:

Ian said:

I was disappointed that Albo was too timid to go his first election without proposing a review of this stinker of a deal.

The USA should be offering us compensation for the money we paid to the French for the cancelled deal

I think we should just ask for a refund of our deposit and start from scratch with a supplier who can supply.

Yes

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Date: 9/06/2026 13:46:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2399587
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

pretty sure there is a more local manufacturing powerhouse that could help build ships that sink for Australia just saying

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Date: 9/06/2026 13:49:27
From: Cymek
ID: 2399589
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

pretty sure there is a more local manufacturing powerhouse that could help build ships that sink for Australia just saying

Could find submarines become obsolete in this new era of drones
I mean no reason you couldn’t just build hundreds of drone submarines that are basically a bomb.
Being small would be harder to detect and use kamikaze attacks

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Date: 9/06/2026 13:52:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2399591
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

pretty sure there is a more local manufacturing powerhouse that could help build ships that sink for Australia just saying

Could find submarines become obsolete in this new era of drones
I mean no reason you couldn’t just build hundreds of drone submarines that are basically a bomb.
Being small would be harder to detect and use kamikaze attacks

yes

but you know, you have governments that can barely plan past the end of the week let alone the next election cycle, then suddenly they’re able to commit $368000000000 for 30 years into a future when the very technology that probably won’t even get delivered will be obsolete anyway, you can be pretty sure something sus’ is up

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Date: 10/06/2026 12:35:53
From: dv
ID: 2399831
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 10/06/2026 12:47:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2399836
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Ah well at least there’s something.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-alex-greenwich-mark-latham-appeal-outcome/106779476

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Date: 10/06/2026 13:30:43
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2399854
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:



Leeser is the Fed. MP for my area.

He can be bloody annoying, but at least he has the guts to say stuff that goes against what the party leadership might like him to say.

Like Iranian immigrants make a valuable contribution to Australia.
Or vote yes in the “Voice Referendum”.

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Date: 10/06/2026 14:32:33
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2399877
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Australia’s hate speech laws? Child’s play. ASIO is about to get permanent powers to drag your family into questioning: no warrant, no charges, no right to silence.

These aren’t emergency powers. They’re permanent. Here’s what that actually means for you.

In this video:

Why hate speech laws are the least of your worries
What “promotion of communal violence” really means and how vague it is
How ASIO can compel your family members to testify against you
The criminal penalties for staying silent
Why there’s no judicial warrant between you and a questioning notice
How these powers went from mass-casualty terrorism to community tensions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzG82R-2eNc

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Date: 10/06/2026 14:45:18
From: Cymek
ID: 2399883
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Spiny Norman said:


Australia’s hate speech laws? Child’s play. ASIO is about to get permanent powers to drag your family into questioning: no warrant, no charges, no right to silence.

These aren’t emergency powers. They’re permanent. Here’s what that actually means for you.

In this video:

Why hate speech laws are the least of your worries
What “promotion of communal violence” really means and how vague it is
How ASIO can compel your family members to testify against you
The criminal penalties for staying silent
Why there’s no judicial warrant between you and a questioning notice
How these powers went from mass-casualty terrorism to community tensions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzG82R-2eNc

Government always want its population to be afraid of something so it can maintain power.
Realistically violent protest may be required to change anything important
The status quo as we see are willing to do anything to hold onto it.
Societal collapse is inevitable anyway

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Date: 10/06/2026 14:47:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2399885
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:

Spiny Norman said:

Australia’s hate speech laws? Child’s play. ASIO is about to get permanent powers to drag your family into questioning: no warrant, no charges, no right to silence.

These aren’t emergency powers. They’re permanent. Here’s what that actually means for you.

In this video:

Why hate speech laws are the least of your worries
What “promotion of communal violence” really means and how vague it is
How ASIO can compel your family members to testify against you
The criminal penalties for staying silent
Why there’s no judicial warrant between you and a questioning notice
How these powers went from mass-casualty terrorism to community tensions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzG82R-2eNc

Government always want its population to be afraid of something so it can maintain power.
Realistically violent protest may be required to change anything important
The status quo as we see are willing to do anything to hold onto it.
Societal collapse is inevitable anyway

OK let’s do it where do we meet

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Date: 10/06/2026 16:42:52
From: ms spock
ID: 2399905
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

We used to be journos

ETTE

Jan and Antoinette react to news that Charlie Pickering’s swipe at Grace Tame didn’t breach ABC’s code of conduct, which leaves them very confused about who gets to have opinions at the national broadcaster and who doesn’t.

Plus, they take stock of the weekend articles that compared Pauline Hanson to various important historical figures and they dissect an A.I-related quandary involving two academics and the Sydney Morning Herald.

Jan gives a shout out to the former MAGA influencer Ashleigh St Clair blowing the whistle on MAGA’s media manipulation, while Antoinette praises fellow indie media outlet’s persistent coverage on Lebanon.

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comment.

1:42​ What’s on the show today?
4:22​ Did the ABC’s new social media rules ever apply equally?
7:05​ Why was Charlie Pickering cleared while others faced consequences?
10:25​ Why are major newspapers comparing Pauline Hanson to historical giants?
17:15​ What happened to Chris Ulhmann?
19:40​ Can the major parties stop One Nation’s surge?
24:02​ Why did the Sydney Morning Herald pull an AI-generated opinion piece?
31:55​ Did the Pope use AI for his speech and cyclical?
36:40​ People wrongly accused of using AI: neurodiverse and English as second language
39:33​ Why did Ashleigh St Clair walk away from MAGA and expose its secrets?
46:58​ Who is keeping the Lebanon story alive in Australian media?

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Date: 11/06/2026 00:15:03
From: dv
ID: 2399990
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/10/hanson-one-nation-senator-tyron-whitten-alleged-breach-of-constitution-section-44-hydro-ntwnfb

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Date: 11/06/2026 08:15:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2400010
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

oh c’m‘on it’s not like those nuclear submarines are being built by some other country, we can

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-11/spacex-risk-elon-musk-starlink-satellite-regulation/106779898

trust these allies and their backers of shared values implicitly

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Date: 11/06/2026 12:08:36
From: dv
ID: 2400054
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The 8% of Greens who direct preferences to ONP must be interesting to talk to.

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Date: 11/06/2026 14:47:40
From: dv
ID: 2400095
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-acknowledges-protester-hannah-thomas-was-punched-by-officer/106782156

Lawyers for the state government have admitted a police officer battered former Greens candidate Hannah Thomas at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Sydney last year.

Ms Thomas brought a civil claim against the state after she was hospitalised needing surgery and had charges against her dropped.

What’s next?
An officer involved in the incident has been charged with occasioning bodily harm and is due to face court again later this year.

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Date: 11/06/2026 14:50:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 2400097
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-acknowledges-protester-hannah-thomas-was-punched-by-officer/106782156

Lawyers for the state government have admitted a police officer battered former Greens candidate Hannah Thomas at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Sydney last year.

Ms Thomas brought a civil claim against the state after she was hospitalised needing surgery and had charges against her dropped.

What’s next?
An officer involved in the incident has been charged with occasioning bodily harm and is due to face court again later this year.

NSW police are in a bit of trouble about their behaviour,

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Date: 11/06/2026 14:52:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2400099
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-acknowledges-protester-hannah-thomas-was-punched-by-officer/106782156

Lawyers for the state government have admitted a police officer battered former Greens candidate Hannah Thomas at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Sydney last year.

Ms Thomas brought a civil claim against the state after she was hospitalised needing surgery and had charges against her dropped.

What’s next?
An officer involved in the incident has been charged with occasioning bodily harm and is due to face court again later this year.

NSW police are in a bit of trouble about their behaviour,

autonomous robotic humanoid enforcers would solve this problem

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Date: 11/06/2026 14:53:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 2400100
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-acknowledges-protester-hannah-thomas-was-punched-by-officer/106782156

Lawyers for the state government have admitted a police officer battered former Greens candidate Hannah Thomas at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Sydney last year.

Ms Thomas brought a civil claim against the state after she was hospitalised needing surgery and had charges against her dropped.

What’s next?
An officer involved in the incident has been charged with occasioning bodily harm and is due to face court again later this year.

NSW police are in a bit of trouble about their behaviour,

autonomous robotic humanoid enforcers would solve this problem

Have you read the Judge Dredd comics?

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Date: 11/06/2026 14:59:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 2400102
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Was meant to get to 21 degrees today but so far the max is 15˚.

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Date: 11/06/2026 14:59:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2400103
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

NSW police are in a bit of trouble about their behaviour,

autonomous robotic humanoid enforcers would solve this problem

Have you read the Judge Dredd comics?

we ran out of time to but we have a bunch, which do you recommend beginning with, maybe in the new year who knows

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Date: 11/06/2026 15:04:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 2400107
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

autonomous robotic humanoid enforcers would solve this problem

Have you read the Judge Dredd comics?

we ran out of time to but we have a bunch, which do you recommend beginning with, maybe in the new year who knows

They aren’t fucking flowers.
https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/comments/1bgmpcu/what_is_a_group_of_connected_comics_called/

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Date: 11/06/2026 15:31:10
From: ms spock
ID: 2400117
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-acknowledges-protester-hannah-thomas-was-punched-by-officer/106782156

Lawyers for the state government have admitted a police officer battered former Greens candidate Hannah Thomas at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Sydney last year.

Ms Thomas brought a civil claim against the state after she was hospitalised needing surgery and had charges against her dropped.

What’s next?
An officer involved in the incident has been charged with occasioning bodily harm and is due to face court again later this year.

Why isn’t the police officer’s name published?

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Date: 11/06/2026 15:31:10
From: ms spock
ID: 2400118
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-acknowledges-protester-hannah-thomas-was-punched-by-officer/106782156

Lawyers for the state government have admitted a police officer battered former Greens candidate Hannah Thomas at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Sydney last year.

Ms Thomas brought a civil claim against the state after she was hospitalised needing surgery and had charges against her dropped.

What’s next?
An officer involved in the incident has been charged with occasioning bodily harm and is due to face court again later this year.

Why isn’t the police officer’s name published?

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Date: 11/06/2026 15:31:10
From: ms spock
ID: 2400119
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-acknowledges-protester-hannah-thomas-was-punched-by-officer/106782156

Lawyers for the state government have admitted a police officer battered former Greens candidate Hannah Thomas at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Sydney last year.

Ms Thomas brought a civil claim against the state after she was hospitalised needing surgery and had charges against her dropped.

What’s next?
An officer involved in the incident has been charged with occasioning bodily harm and is due to face court again later this year.

Why isn’t the police officer’s name published?

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Date: 11/06/2026 15:31:10
From: ms spock
ID: 2400120
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-acknowledges-protester-hannah-thomas-was-punched-by-officer/106782156

Lawyers for the state government have admitted a police officer battered former Greens candidate Hannah Thomas at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Sydney last year.

Ms Thomas brought a civil claim against the state after she was hospitalised needing surgery and had charges against her dropped.

What’s next?
An officer involved in the incident has been charged with occasioning bodily harm and is due to face court again later this year.

Why isn’t the police officer’s name published?

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Date: 11/06/2026 15:34:04
From: ms spock
ID: 2400121
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-acknowledges-protester-hannah-thomas-was-punched-by-officer/106782156

Lawyers for the state government have admitted a police officer battered former Greens candidate Hannah Thomas at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Sydney last year.

Ms Thomas brought a civil claim against the state after she was hospitalised needing surgery and had charges against her dropped.

What’s next?
An officer involved in the incident has been charged with occasioning bodily harm and is due to face court again later this year.

NSW police are in a bit of trouble about their behaviour,

He is not named.

It’s like the wealthy rapists who are being convicted but their names being withheld to “protect their mental health”.

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Date: 11/06/2026 15:42:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2400133
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-acknowledges-protester-hannah-thomas-was-punched-by-officer/106782156

Lawyers for the state government have admitted a police officer battered former Greens candidate Hannah Thomas at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Sydney last year.

Ms Thomas brought a civil claim against the state after she was hospitalised needing surgery and had charges against her dropped.

What’s next?
An officer involved in the incident has been charged with occasioning bodily harm and is due to face court again later this year.

Why isn’t the police officer’s name published?

Because no-one charged with a serious offence should be named until the trial is finished, including all appeals.

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Date: 11/06/2026 15:44:12
From: ms spock
ID: 2400136
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


ms spock said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-acknowledges-protester-hannah-thomas-was-punched-by-officer/106782156

Lawyers for the state government have admitted a police officer battered former Greens candidate Hannah Thomas at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Sydney last year.

Ms Thomas brought a civil claim against the state after she was hospitalised needing surgery and had charges against her dropped.

What’s next?
An officer involved in the incident has been charged with occasioning bodily harm and is due to face court again later this year.

Why isn’t the police officer’s name published?

Because no-one charged with a serious offence should be named until the trial is finished, including all appeals.

But that doesn’t happen to the protesters?

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Date: 11/06/2026 15:45:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2400137
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ms spock said:

Why isn’t the police officer’s name published?

Because no-one charged with a serious offence should be named until the trial is finished, including all appeals.

But that doesn’t happen to the protesters?

Then protest about it not happening to protestors.

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:00:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 2400146
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-10/nsw-acknowledges-protester-hannah-thomas-was-punched-by-officer/106782156

Lawyers for the state government have admitted a police officer battered former Greens candidate Hannah Thomas at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Sydney last year.

Ms Thomas brought a civil claim against the state after she was hospitalised needing surgery and had charges against her dropped.

What’s next?
An officer involved in the incident has been charged with occasioning bodily harm and is due to face court again later this year.

Why isn’t the police officer’s name published?

Likely will be if he is convicted.

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:10:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2400158
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Have you read the Judge Dredd comics?

we ran out of time to but we have a bunch, which do you recommend beginning with, maybe in the new year who knows

They aren’t fucking flowers.
https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/comments/1bgmpcu/what_is_a_group_of_connected_comics_called/

when flowers fuck you get fruits, and we’re pretty sure our collection is discontinuous items grabbed all together, which is a bunch

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:14:08
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2400160
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:17:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2400162
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:



She forgot to mention defence spending going through the roof.

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:19:42
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2400163
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:



Gosh, where have I heard those things before…? 🤔

I’d like to know more about their plan to reform NDIS.

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:25:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2400164
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

JudgeMental said:


She forgot to mention defence spending going through the roof.

Gosh, where have I heard those things before…? 🤔

I’d like to know more about their plan to reform NDIS.

so in summary popularity team sports democracy achieves the worst governance and decision making except for all the alternatives

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:37:15
From: Woodie
ID: 2400169
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


JudgeMental said:


She forgot to mention defence spending going through the roof.

But but but….. what about the subareens?

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:43:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 2400173
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:



Outstanding! I’d like to see the maths, their workings.

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:44:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 2400175
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


JudgeMental said:


She forgot to mention defence spending going through the roof.

She’ll no doubt promise to keep defending against everyone not Australian.

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:48:01
From: Michael V
ID: 2400180
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:



Hmm. I wonder where they’ll get the money to do the first one…

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:49:59
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2400182
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/11/one-nation-party-financial-reports-returns-fair-trading-ntwnfb

Link

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:50:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 2400184
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


JudgeMental said:


Hmm. I wonder where they’ll get the money to do the first one…

That’s why I want to see their workings.

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:52:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 2400187
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/11/one-nation-party-financial-reports-returns-fair-trading-ntwnfb

Link

This wasn’t published before the recent elections?

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:52:58
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2400188
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


JudgeMental said:


Hmm. I wonder where they’ll get the money to do the first one…

when they scrap anything to do with net zero there’ll be oodles for coal fired power.

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:54:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 2400192
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:


Hmm. I wonder where they’ll get the money to do the first one…

when they scrap anything to do with net zero there’ll be oodles for coal fired power.

So why wasn’t that first on their list?

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Date: 11/06/2026 16:59:54
From: Michael V
ID: 2400196
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:


Hmm. I wonder where they’ll get the money to do the first one…

when they scrap anything to do with net zero there’ll be oodles for coal fired power.

I wouldn’t give One Notion anything, let alone the billions of dollars it costs to build a coal-fired power plant.

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Date: 11/06/2026 17:08:30
From: Michael V
ID: 2400200
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


JudgeMental said:

Michael V said:

Hmm. I wonder where they’ll get the money to do the first one…

when they scrap anything to do with net zero there’ll be oodles for coal fired power.

I wouldn’t give One Notion anything, let alone the billions of dollars it costs to build a coal-fired power plant.

My guess is that One Notion would not actually build the coal-fired power stations, but pass legislation allowing and encouraging others to do so. To encourage others to do so might require significant subsidies.

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Date: 11/06/2026 17:16:10
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2400202
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

when they scrap anything to do with net zero there’ll be oodles for coal fired power.

I wouldn’t give One Notion anything, let alone the billions of dollars it costs to build a coal-fired power plant.

My guess is that One Notion would not actually build the coal-fired power stations, but pass legislation allowing and encouraging others to do so. To encourage others to do so might require significant subsidies.


FWIW a mate of mine used to be one of the managers at the coal power station near Kingaroy. He said it was a Japanese unit, we just paid $800,000,000 for it at the time and assembled the parts here onsite.

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Date: 11/06/2026 17:20:02
From: Ian
ID: 2400203
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


JudgeMental said:


She forgot to mention defence spending going through the roof.

And the flaming price of flaming hair dye.

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Date: 11/06/2026 17:26:46
From: Michael V
ID: 2400205
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Spiny Norman said:


Michael V said:

Michael V said:

I wouldn’t give One Notion anything, let alone the billions of dollars it costs to build a coal-fired power plant.

My guess is that One Notion would not actually build the coal-fired power stations, but pass legislation allowing and encouraging others to do so. To encourage others to do so might require significant subsidies.


FWIW a mate of mine used to be one of the managers at the coal power station near Kingaroy. He said it was a Japanese unit, we just paid $800,000,000 for it at the time and assembled the parts here onsite.

Possibly Hitachi.

I’d hazard a guess that overall it’d be cheaper to invest in batteries (including water: pumped hydro) than to replace all the coal-fired power plants that are reaching the end of their lives. I doubt a private consortium would build new plants without significant subsidies.

But hey, if One Notion wants us to pay large corporate entities to build replacement power plants, whilst allowing them to charge us for the privilege, they should tell us that that’s their real plan.

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Date: 11/06/2026 17:41:22
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2400210
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


Possibly Hitachi.

That does ring a bell.

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Date: 11/06/2026 17:48:52
From: Ian
ID: 2400214
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

Michael V said:

My guess is that One Notion would not actually build the coal-fired power stations, but pass legislation allowing and encouraging others to do so. To encourage others to do so might require significant subsidies.


FWIW a mate of mine used to be one of the managers at the coal power station near Kingaroy. He said it was a Japanese unit, we just paid $800,000,000 for it at the time and assembled the parts here onsite.

Possibly Hitachi.

I’d hazard a guess that overall it’d be cheaper to invest in batteries (including water: pumped hydro) than to replace all the coal-fired power plants that are reaching the end of their lives. I doubt a private consortium would build new plants without significant subsidies.

But hey, if One Notion wants us to pay large corporate entities to build replacement power plants, whilst allowing them to charge us for the privilege, they should tell us that that’s their real plan.

I had a Hitashi double cassette deck.. brilliant bit of gear.. and a washing machine.. likewise.
I can’t vouch for their coal-fired power plants but…

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Date: 11/06/2026 18:29:08
From: ms spock
ID: 2400226
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


JudgeMental said:


Gosh, where have I heard those things before…? 🤔

I’d like to know more about their plan to reform NDIS.

Make it a government department with accountability that can be enforced. I wrote up a brief for a woman who is 25 years old physically and 18 months developmentally. She requires 24/7 care. Their provider cut their package in half, no reason given. I went begging and got a legal firm to do pro bono. The case won in court but they still didn’t receive the funding. It was so demoralising. I will never write up like that again. Her mother kept meticulous records. I though it could set a precedent for the NDIS.

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Date: 11/06/2026 19:44:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2400244
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

what a legend

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-11/one-nation-pauline-hanson-gina-rinehart/106787540
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-11/australians-face-a-binary-choice-as-one-nation-soars-chalmers/106787392

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Date: 11/06/2026 19:44:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2400245
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

what a legend

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-11/one-nation-pauline-hanson-gina-rinehart/106787540
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-11/australians-face-a-binary-choice-as-one-nation-soars-chalmers/106787392

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Date: 11/06/2026 19:52:36
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2400246
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

“Australians face a binary choice”

🤔

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Date: 11/06/2026 20:00:14
From: Woodie
ID: 2400249
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


“Australians face a binary choice”

🤔

It’s certainly not a Barnaby Choice.

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Date: 11/06/2026 20:02:04
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2400251
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Woodie said:


Divine Angel said:

“Australians face a binary choice”

🤔

It’s certainly not a Barnaby Choice.

I actually did LOL at that.

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Date: 11/06/2026 20:08:21
From: dv
ID: 2400254
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Woodie said:


Divine Angel said:

“Australians face a binary choice”

🤔

It’s certainly not a Barnaby Choice.

ha

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Date: 11/06/2026 20:29:00
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2400258
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://donate.onenation.org.au/fire-the-liar

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Date: 11/06/2026 20:50:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2400262
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

alleged

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Date: 12/06/2026 00:34:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2400276
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

genius

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-11/richard-marles-blindsided-after-uk-counterpart-john-healey-qiuts/106788486

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Date: 12/06/2026 07:49:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 2400285
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

what a legend

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-11/one-nation-pauline-hanson-gina-rinehart/106787540
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-11/australians-face-a-binary-choice-as-one-nation-soars-chalmers/106787392


If more people want to destroy Australia than want to save pur unique wildlife and people, what will we do?
We should be more than just a hole in the ground gor Gina.

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Date: 12/06/2026 07:53:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 2400290
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Ian said:


Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

FWIW a mate of mine used to be one of the managers at the coal power station near Kingaroy. He said it was a Japanese unit, we just paid $800,000,000 for it at the time and assembled the parts here onsite.

Possibly Hitachi.

I’d hazard a guess that overall it’d be cheaper to invest in batteries (including water: pumped hydro) than to replace all the coal-fired power plants that are reaching the end of their lives. I doubt a private consortium would build new plants without significant subsidies.

But hey, if One Notion wants us to pay large corporate entities to build replacement power plants, whilst allowing them to charge us for the privilege, they should tell us that that’s their real plan.

I had a Hitashi double cassette deck.. brilliant bit of gear.. and a washing machine.. likewise.
I can’t vouch for their coal-fired power plants but…

They make excellent jackhammers.

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Date: 12/06/2026 13:48:07
From: dv
ID: 2400403
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Today’s Morgan poll:

Primaries
ONP 29.5
ALP 26%
LNP 17.5%
Greens 15.5%
Other 11.5%

Reckon if you were to parse out the LNP into its constituents, the Libs would not be in the top three in this poll.

2pps

ALP vs LNP 56-44
ALP vs ONP 53.5-46.5

Seems perhaps that much of the Other are Tealish, and maybe half of the LNP voter direct prefs to ALP over ONP. ALP is now very much in a position where only a minority of its 2PP is from those who give them the primary vote.

If an election were held today, on these numbers the ALP would retain majority government and ONP would be the opposition party, and the LNP would be reduced to single digits in seats.

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Date: 12/06/2026 14:06:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2400405
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Today’s Morgan poll:

Primaries
ONP 29.5
ALP 26%
LNP 17.5%
Greens 15.5%
Other 11.5%

Reckon if you were to parse out the LNP into its constituents, the Libs would not be in the top three in this poll.

2pps

ALP vs LNP 56-44
ALP vs ONP 53.5-46.5

Seems perhaps that much of the Other are Tealish, and maybe half of the LNP voter direct prefs to ALP over ONP. ALP is now very much in a position where only a minority of its 2PP is from those who give them the primary vote.

If an election were held today, on these numbers the ALP would retain majority government and ONP would be the opposition party, and the LNP would be reduced to single digits in seats.

Much as I dislike Anxious Taylor, I’m struggling to see how so many Libs see ON as better.

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Date: 12/06/2026 16:13:21
From: ms spock
ID: 2400478
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

genius

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-11/richard-marles-blindsided-after-uk-counterpart-john-healey-qiuts/106788486

“The Iran war is changing the Middle East. It’s hitting our people at home. Putin’s aggression is increasing. And the US is demanding nations, whether they’re in the Indo-Pacific or in the Euro-Atlantic, that we step up. This demands us to respond purchase more weapons from the American Military Complex.”

Fixed it for you.

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Date: 12/06/2026 16:22:32
From: Cymek
ID: 2400481
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


SCIENCE said:

genius

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-11/richard-marles-blindsided-after-uk-counterpart-john-healey-qiuts/106788486

“The Iran war is changing the Middle East. It’s hitting our people at home. Putin’s aggression is increasing. And the US is demanding nations, whether they’re in the Indo-Pacific or in the Euro-Atlantic, that we step up. This demands us to respond purchase more weapons from the American Military Complex.”

Fixed it for you.

Trump messed everything up and spent hundreds of billions for little achievement
Why would anyone else foot the bill
I imagine most world leaders are gloating at his cluster fuck and perhaps even spite themselves to not help

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Date: 12/06/2026 16:48:08
From: ms spock
ID: 2400493
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

SCIENCE said:

genius

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-11/richard-marles-blindsided-after-uk-counterpart-john-healey-qiuts/106788486

“The Iran war is changing the Middle East. It’s hitting our people at home. Putin’s aggression is increasing. And the US is demanding nations, whether they’re in the Indo-Pacific or in the Euro-Atlantic, that we step up. This demands us to respond purchase more weapons from the American Military Complex.”

Fixed it for you.

Trump messed everything up and spent hundreds of billions for little achievement
Why would anyone else foot the bill
I imagine most world leaders are gloating at his cluster fuck and perhaps even spite themselves to not help

I hope that they don’t bail him out

Then I feel tremendously sad for the millions of people who will steer.

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Date: 12/06/2026 17:04:04
From: ms spock
ID: 2400505
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


Cymek said:

ms spock said:

“The Iran war is changing the Middle East. It’s hitting our people at home. Putin’s aggression is increasing. And the US is demanding nations, whether they’re in the Indo-Pacific or in the Euro-Atlantic, that we step up. This demands us to respond purchase more weapons from the American Military Complex.”

Fixed it for you.

Trump messed everything up and spent hundreds of billions for little achievement
Why would anyone else foot the bill
I imagine most world leaders are gloating at his cluster fuck and perhaps even spite themselves to not help

I hope that they don’t bail him out

Then I feel tremendously sad for the millions of people who will steer.

Suffer not steer

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Date: 12/06/2026 18:08:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2400534
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:

ms spock said:

Cymek said:

Trump messed everything up and spent hundreds of billions for little achievement
Why would anyone else foot the bill
I imagine most world leaders are gloating at his cluster fuck and perhaps even spite themselves to not help

I hope that they don’t bail him out

Then I feel tremendously sad for the millions of people who will steer.

Suffer not steer

suffer the bum steer

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Date: 12/06/2026 19:32:39
From: dv
ID: 2400550
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

DemosAU polling for the Vic state election, LNP ahead of ALP 55-45.

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Date: 13/06/2026 12:11:13
From: buffy
ID: 2400736
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Annabel Crabbe on Tony Abbott

ABC item well worth it for a laugh.

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Date: 13/06/2026 12:14:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2400737
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

From Getup:

“Avi Yemini – the former Israeli soldier and far-right YouTuber – is one step closer to registering a fake party called “Free Palestine” ahead of Victoria’s November election. In his own words, the party exists to “capture votes and redistribute them” to One Nation and the far right.

Three other fake progressive parties – “Refugees Are Welcome Here”, “Muslim Votes Matter”, and “Save the Environment” – are built on identical server infrastructure, run by the same network. “

Shouldn’t that sort of stuff be against the rules?

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Date: 13/06/2026 12:15:06
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2400739
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

buffy said:


Annabel Crabbe on Tony Abbott

ABC item well worth it for a laugh.

I was just wondering why no-one was posting Australian politics here recently :)

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Date: 13/06/2026 12:35:10
From: party_pants
ID: 2400748
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


From Getup:

“Avi Yemini – the former Israeli soldier and far-right YouTuber – is one step closer to registering a fake party called “Free Palestine” ahead of Victoria’s November election. In his own words, the party exists to “capture votes and redistribute them” to One Nation and the far right.

Three other fake progressive parties – “Refugees Are Welcome Here”, “Muslim Votes Matter”, and “Save the Environment” – are built on identical server infrastructure, run by the same network. “

Shouldn’t that sort of stuff be against the rules?

I thought you needed 500 members or something like that.

Also, if he is still an Israeli citizen he would be ineligible to run for election, so any votes he gets would be disqualified anyway.

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Date: 13/06/2026 14:34:26
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2400777
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Queensland deputy premier says he has no sympathy for ‘juvenile grubs’ in youth detention lockdown

Queensland’s deputy premier says he has no sympathy for “juvenile grubs” in youth detention centres after concerns were raised about their welfare during lockdowns.

Jarrod Bleijie suggested it was often the children’s fault they had been placed in lockdown, pointing to reports of frequent attacks against staff.

“A lockdown is for the safety of not only the offenders but the workers, and it is because some juvenile grub has caused the lockdown in the first place, whether they have started a physical altercation or whatever the case may be,” he said.

“So, if you’re thinking you are going to find sympathy from me for a youth offender in our youth justice system, you ain’t gonna get it from me.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-12/qld-deputy-no-sympathy-for-youth-locked-down-in-detention/106790180

I cannot state strongly enough as to what a total f’wit he is.

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Date: 13/06/2026 14:42:43
From: party_pants
ID: 2400787
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Spiny Norman said:


Queensland deputy premier says he has no sympathy for ‘juvenile grubs’ in youth detention lockdown

Queensland’s deputy premier says he has no sympathy for “juvenile grubs” in youth detention centres after concerns were raised about their welfare during lockdowns.

Jarrod Bleijie suggested it was often the children’s fault they had been placed in lockdown, pointing to reports of frequent attacks against staff.

“A lockdown is for the safety of not only the offenders but the workers, and it is because some juvenile grub has caused the lockdown in the first place, whether they have started a physical altercation or whatever the case may be,” he said.

“So, if you’re thinking you are going to find sympathy from me for a youth offender in our youth justice system, you ain’t gonna get it from me.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-12/qld-deputy-no-sympathy-for-youth-locked-down-in-detention/106790180

I cannot state strongly enough as to what a total f’wit he is.

Politicians are conditioned into thinking that being “tough on crime” or “tough on criminals” is popular with the electorate. And since they are the ones who makes the laws in the first place, they have an added sense of despising those who don’t obey their laws.

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Date: 13/06/2026 14:45:14
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2400789
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Spiny Norman said:

Queensland deputy premier says he has no sympathy for ‘juvenile grubs’ in youth detention lockdown

Queensland’s deputy premier says he has no sympathy for “juvenile grubs” in youth detention centres after concerns were raised about their welfare during lockdowns.

Jarrod Bleijie suggested it was often the children’s fault they had been placed in lockdown, pointing to reports of frequent attacks against staff.

“A lockdown is for the safety of not only the offenders but the workers, and it is because some juvenile grub has caused the lockdown in the first place, whether they have started a physical altercation or whatever the case may be,” he said.

“So, if you’re thinking you are going to find sympathy from me for a youth offender in our youth justice system, you ain’t gonna get it from me.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-12/qld-deputy-no-sympathy-for-youth-locked-down-in-detention/106790180

I cannot state strongly enough as to what a total f’wit he is.

Politicians are conditioned into thinking that being “tough on crime” or “tough on criminals” is popular with the electorate. And since they are the ones who makes the laws in the first place, they have an added sense of despising those who don’t obey their laws.

I’ll tell you what though, the Qld govt is certainly spending shitloads of money on advertising how good they are at doing their job.

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Date: 13/06/2026 14:45:52
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2400791
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Spiny Norman said:

Queensland deputy premier says he has no sympathy for ‘juvenile grubs’ in youth detention lockdown

Queensland’s deputy premier says he has no sympathy for “juvenile grubs” in youth detention centres after concerns were raised about their welfare during lockdowns.

Jarrod Bleijie suggested it was often the children’s fault they had been placed in lockdown, pointing to reports of frequent attacks against staff.

“A lockdown is for the safety of not only the offenders but the workers, and it is because some juvenile grub has caused the lockdown in the first place, whether they have started a physical altercation or whatever the case may be,” he said.

“So, if you’re thinking you are going to find sympathy from me for a youth offender in our youth justice system, you ain’t gonna get it from me.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-12/qld-deputy-no-sympathy-for-youth-locked-down-in-detention/106790180

I cannot state strongly enough as to what a total f’wit he is.

Politicians are conditioned into thinking that being “tough on crime” or “tough on criminals” is popular with the electorate. And since they are the ones who makes the laws in the first place, they have an added sense of despising those who don’t obey their laws.

The Queensland LNP, like the federal LNP, use the childish practice of making things that are already illegal even more illegal to try to deter people.
Not the slightest effort to combat the root causes of …. anything.

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Date: 13/06/2026 14:48:13
From: Michael V
ID: 2400793
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


party_pants said:

Spiny Norman said:

Queensland deputy premier says he has no sympathy for ‘juvenile grubs’ in youth detention lockdown

Queensland’s deputy premier says he has no sympathy for “juvenile grubs” in youth detention centres after concerns were raised about their welfare during lockdowns.

Jarrod Bleijie suggested it was often the children’s fault they had been placed in lockdown, pointing to reports of frequent attacks against staff.

“A lockdown is for the safety of not only the offenders but the workers, and it is because some juvenile grub has caused the lockdown in the first place, whether they have started a physical altercation or whatever the case may be,” he said.

“So, if you’re thinking you are going to find sympathy from me for a youth offender in our youth justice system, you ain’t gonna get it from me.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-12/qld-deputy-no-sympathy-for-youth-locked-down-in-detention/106790180

I cannot state strongly enough as to what a total f’wit he is.

Politicians are conditioned into thinking that being “tough on crime” or “tough on criminals” is popular with the electorate. And since they are the ones who makes the laws in the first place, they have an added sense of despising those who don’t obey their laws.

I’ll tell you what though, the Qld govt is certainly spending shitloads of money on advertising how good they are at doing their job.

I’ll say. And it is annoying that it’s our money, not the conservatives’ money that is being spent.

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Date: 13/06/2026 14:57:43
From: party_pants
ID: 2400796
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Spiny Norman said:


party_pants said:

Spiny Norman said:

Queensland deputy premier says he has no sympathy for ‘juvenile grubs’ in youth detention lockdown

Queensland’s deputy premier says he has no sympathy for “juvenile grubs” in youth detention centres after concerns were raised about their welfare during lockdowns.

Jarrod Bleijie suggested it was often the children’s fault they had been placed in lockdown, pointing to reports of frequent attacks against staff.

“A lockdown is for the safety of not only the offenders but the workers, and it is because some juvenile grub has caused the lockdown in the first place, whether they have started a physical altercation or whatever the case may be,” he said.

“So, if you’re thinking you are going to find sympathy from me for a youth offender in our youth justice system, you ain’t gonna get it from me.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-12/qld-deputy-no-sympathy-for-youth-locked-down-in-detention/106790180

I cannot state strongly enough as to what a total f’wit he is.

Politicians are conditioned into thinking that being “tough on crime” or “tough on criminals” is popular with the electorate. And since they are the ones who makes the laws in the first place, they have an added sense of despising those who don’t obey their laws.

The Queensland LNP, like the federal LNP, use the childish practice of making things that are already illegal even more illegal to try to deter people.
Not the slightest effort to combat the root causes of …. anything.

It’s politics.

This is why I don’t follow the daily political news cycles. I try to look at the bigger picture and ignore that daily who said what stuff.

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Date: 13/06/2026 16:09:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2400808
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

Politicians are conditioned into thinking that being “tough on crime” or “tough on criminals” is popular with the electorate. And since they are the ones who makes the laws in the first place, they have an added sense of despising those who don’t obey their laws.

I’ll tell you what though, the Qld govt is certainly spending shitloads of money on advertising how good they are at doing their job.

I’ll say. And it is annoying that it’s our money, not the conservatives’ money that is being spent.

pftf, everyone knows that your money is actually their money

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Date: 13/06/2026 17:13:38
From: Michael V
ID: 2400817
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

I’ll tell you what though, the Qld govt is certainly spending shitloads of money on advertising how good they are at doing their job.

I’ll say. And it is annoying that it’s our money, not the conservatives’ money that is being spent.

pftf, everyone knows that your money is actually their money

I wouldn’t mind if the millions were spent on roads, hospitals and the like.

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Date: 13/06/2026 17:56:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2400830
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

I’ll say. And it is annoying that it’s our money, not the conservatives’ money that is being spent.

pftf, everyone knows that your money is actually their money

I wouldn’t mind if the millions were spent on roads, hospitals and the like.

yeah but who’s going to drive passengers around on those roads and staff those hospitals, we don’t want any of those dirty migrants stealing jobs

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Date: 14/06/2026 07:50:16
From: ms spock
ID: 2400917
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Spiny Norman said:

party_pants said:

Politicians are conditioned into thinking that being “tough on crime” or “tough on criminals” is popular with the electorate. And since they are the ones who makes the laws in the first place, they have an added sense of despising those who don’t obey their laws.

The Queensland LNP, like the federal LNP, use the childish practice of making things that are already illegal even more illegal to try to deter people.
Not the slightest effort to combat the root causes of …. anything.

It’s politics.

This is why I don’t follow the daily political news cycles. I try to look at the bigger picture and ignore that daily who said what stuff.

In first year Law School you learn whilst ignoring billions of dollars of white collar crime, while they’re is a scapegoating blue collar crime. Strealing something from a shop goes before a court whilst stealing millions doesn’t. It makes law reform a nightmare. It is also important to look at the articles pushed off the front page by the “tough on crime” rhetoric. It’s a really depressing part of learning ning in first year.

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Date: 14/06/2026 08:10:54
From: ms spock
ID: 2400921
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Nature and hugs for one and all!

It is great to read you!

o

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Date: 14/06/2026 13:39:54
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2400980
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

This is going into Aus politics because he’s running for Victoria state election in the Libertarian party.

Jim Penman, of Jim’s Mowing fame, believes less fun = more babies. Stop wanking, have less sex, don’t have caffeine or drugs or alcohol, and stop scrolling social media ensures your brain doesn’t get its dopamine fix so when you do have sex, you’re more likely to reproduce (or something).

It’s a theory put forward in his new self-published book. In the meantime, he’s pouring money into research on how to use CRISPR technology, saying epigenetics could induce the same effect as calorie restriction, and make marriage and children more appealing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/14/how-to-reverse-declining-birth-rates-the-guy-from-jims-mowing-has-a-theory-and-its-unusual

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Date: 14/06/2026 13:47:06
From: dv
ID: 2400983
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


This is going into Aus politics because he’s running for Victoria state election in the Libertarian party.

Jim Penman, of Jim’s Mowing fame, believes less fun = more babies. Stop wanking, have less sex, don’t have caffeine or drugs or alcohol, and stop scrolling social media ensures your brain doesn’t get its dopamine fix so when you do have sex, you’re more likely to reproduce (or something).

It’s a theory put forward in his new self-published book. In the meantime, he’s pouring money into research on how to use CRISPR technology, saying epigenetics could induce the same effect as calorie restriction, and make marriage and children more appealing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/14/how-to-reverse-declining-birth-rates-the-guy-from-jims-mowing-has-a-theory-and-its-unusual

I think some of these folks don’t quite have their heads around the matter. People are mainly having fewer babies because they want fewer babies. It’s not some problem to be overcome.

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Date: 14/06/2026 13:52:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2400984
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

This is going into Aus politics because he’s running for Victoria state election in the Libertarian party.

Jim Penman, of Jim’s Mowing fame, believes less fun = more babies. Stop wanking, have less sex, don’t have caffeine or drugs or alcohol, and stop scrolling social media ensures your brain doesn’t get its dopamine fix so when you do have sex, you’re more likely to reproduce (or something).

It’s a theory put forward in his new self-published book. In the meantime, he’s pouring money into research on how to use CRISPR technology, saying epigenetics could induce the same effect as calorie restriction, and make marriage and children more appealing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/14/how-to-reverse-declining-birth-rates-the-guy-from-jims-mowing-has-a-theory-and-its-unusual

I think some of these folks don’t quite have their heads around the matter. People are mainly having fewer babies because they want fewer babies. It’s not some problem to be overcome.

I don’t want any babies, so I suppose I should be punished with a dry Ryvita and tapwater diet.

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Date: 14/06/2026 13:53:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2400985
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

This is going into Aus politics because he’s running for Victoria state election in the Libertarian party.

Jim Penman, of Jim’s Mowing fame, believes less fun = more babies. Stop wanking, have less sex, don’t have caffeine or drugs or alcohol, and stop scrolling social media ensures your brain doesn’t get its dopamine fix so when you do have sex, you’re more likely to reproduce (or something).

It’s a theory put forward in his new self-published book. In the meantime, he’s pouring money into research on how to use CRISPR technology, saying epigenetics could induce the same effect as calorie restriction, and make marriage and children more appealing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/14/how-to-reverse-declining-birth-rates-the-guy-from-jims-mowing-has-a-theory-and-its-unusual

I think some of these folks don’t quite have their heads around the matter. People are mainly having fewer babies because they want fewer babies. It’s not some problem to be overcome.

The article stops short of saying he’s suggesting women are a major influence here, what with us womenfolk being educated with careers and all.

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Date: 14/06/2026 14:27:45
From: party_pants
ID: 2400997
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

This is going into Aus politics because he’s running for Victoria state election in the Libertarian party.

Jim Penman, of Jim’s Mowing fame, believes less fun = more babies. Stop wanking, have less sex, don’t have caffeine or drugs or alcohol, and stop scrolling social media ensures your brain doesn’t get its dopamine fix so when you do have sex, you’re more likely to reproduce (or something).

It’s a theory put forward in his new self-published book. In the meantime, he’s pouring money into research on how to use CRISPR technology, saying epigenetics could induce the same effect as calorie restriction, and make marriage and children more appealing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/14/how-to-reverse-declining-birth-rates-the-guy-from-jims-mowing-has-a-theory-and-its-unusual

I think some of these folks don’t quite have their heads around the matter. People are mainly having fewer babies because they want fewer babies. It’s not some problem to be overcome.

It is a problem at the macro level if birth rate drops below the replacement rate. A shrinking population, aging population, smaller workforce supporting a large population of retirees and all that. it is generally considered to be a problem, especially for a society that doesn’t accept or assimilate immigrants very well.

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Date: 14/06/2026 14:48:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2401012
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

This is going into Aus politics because he’s running for Victoria state election in the Libertarian party.

Jim Penman, of Jim’s Mowing fame, believes less fun = more babies. Stop wanking, have less sex, don’t have caffeine or drugs or alcohol, and stop scrolling social media ensures your brain doesn’t get its dopamine fix so when you do have sex, you’re more likely to reproduce (or something).

It’s a theory put forward in his new self-published book. In the meantime, he’s pouring money into research on how to use CRISPR technology, saying epigenetics could induce the same effect as calorie restriction, and make marriage and children more appealing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/14/how-to-reverse-declining-birth-rates-the-guy-from-jims-mowing-has-a-theory-and-its-unusual

I think some of these folks don’t quite have their heads around the matter. People are mainly having fewer babies because they want fewer babies. It’s not some problem to be overcome.

It is a problem at the macro level if birth rate drops below the replacement rate. A shrinking population, aging population, smaller workforce supporting a large population of retirees and all that. it is generally considered to be a problem, especially for a society that doesn’t accept or assimilate immigrants very well.

we mean the baby bonus didn’t affect anyone’s calculus on having babies, they want or don’t want babies for reasons independent of their external environment

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Date: 14/06/2026 14:53:29
From: Michael V
ID: 2401014
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Divine Angel said:

This is going into Aus politics because he’s running for Victoria state election in the Libertarian party.

Jim Penman, of Jim’s Mowing fame, believes less fun = more babies. Stop wanking, have less sex, don’t have caffeine or drugs or alcohol, and stop scrolling social media ensures your brain doesn’t get its dopamine fix so when you do have sex, you’re more likely to reproduce (or something).

It’s a theory put forward in his new self-published book. In the meantime, he’s pouring money into research on how to use CRISPR technology, saying epigenetics could induce the same effect as calorie restriction, and make marriage and children more appealing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/14/how-to-reverse-declining-birth-rates-the-guy-from-jims-mowing-has-a-theory-and-its-unusual

I think some of these folks don’t quite have their heads around the matter. People are mainly having fewer babies because they want fewer babies. It’s not some problem to be overcome.

I don’t want any babies, so I suppose I should be punished with a dry Ryvita and tapwater diet.

OK, if that’s how you want it.

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Date: 15/06/2026 11:31:49
From: dv
ID: 2401190
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

More good polling for ONP, from Resolve.

2pp
ALP 52.4 – LNP 47.6
ALP 50.9 – ONP 49.1

Preferred PM
Hanson 33
Albanese 29
Taylor 16

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Date: 15/06/2026 11:35:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2401192
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


More good polling for ONP, from Resolve.

2pp
ALP 52.4 – LNP 47.6
ALP 50.9 – ONP 49.1

Preferred PM
Hanson 33
Albanese 29
Taylor 16

We need Xavier Herbert back to write Sick Puppy My Country.

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Date: 15/06/2026 16:59:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2401282
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

And so it begins.
Never heard of Neil though.

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Date: 15/06/2026 17:04:01
From: Cymek
ID: 2401284
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Peak Warming Man said:


And so it begins.
Never heard of Neil though.

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Date: 15/06/2026 17:58:39
From: dv
ID: 2401294
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BUK33taWF/

The media and Hanson

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Date: 15/06/2026 17:59:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2401295
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BUK33taWF/

The media and Hanson

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Date: 15/06/2026 19:00:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2401319
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

oh so another bad idea from the communists turns out to be a good idea

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer says he will ban social media access for children under 16. Britain is also planning on implementing restrictions on gaming and live streaming platforms for children.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-15/uk-keir-starmer-ban-social-media-under-16/106800694

Many parents and politicians back a ban, but some psychologists and researchers say there is no proof that it would work.

we mean hey that’s fair we’ve never tried to run an entire country purely on battery firmed renewable electricity before, there’s no proof that would work so we shouldn’t try to do it at all

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Date: 15/06/2026 19:06:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2401320
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

oh so another bad idea from the communists

see

what a bunch of idiots communists are, if Corruption or the Fascists had done this we’d be hearing about how the plan was a dramatic improvement even though it had a few flaws

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Date: 15/06/2026 21:11:21
From: dv
ID: 2401344
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

These are two separate posts by real humans, not bots.

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Date: 15/06/2026 21:26:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2401348
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:

These are two separate posts by real humans, not bots.

how do yous know

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Date: 15/06/2026 21:51:11
From: dv
ID: 2401350
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

These are two separate posts by real humans, not bots.

how do yous know

Duh their names are different.

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Date: 15/06/2026 21:52:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2401352
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

These are two separate posts by real humans, not bots.

how do yous know

Duh their names are different.

well all right fine we suppose even humans are pretty much bots these days

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Date: 15/06/2026 23:46:05
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2401368
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

how do yous know

Duh their names are different.

well all right fine we suppose even humans are pretty much bots these days

‘specially when they post identical pics.

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Date: 16/06/2026 09:46:21
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2401386
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Adding your name ain’t gonna do shit but here it is anyway

https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/far-right-2026/stop-the-far-right/never-one-nation

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Date: 16/06/2026 10:20:49
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2401401
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Two big banks have slashed their house price forecasts. The numbers are hair-raising

Elizabeth Knight
Business columnist
June 15, 2026 — 3:50pm

There has been a break in the big four banks’ ranks over the future of property prices. ANZ and NAB have capitulated over the past couple of days and joined the legion of economists predicting national capital house prices are heading down precipitously.

The signs are difficult to ignore – an avalanche of sellers, increasing levels of stale stock sitting on property portal shelves, and auction clearance rates wallowing around 50 per cent.

While the proposed removal of favourable tax treatment on property investing was being robustly (but cosmetically) debated in Canberra on Monday, the real-time effects of the policy to remove the tax incentives, including negative gearing, are glaringly clear.

The head of Westpac’s consumer bank, Carolyn McCann, last week removed any doubt when she declared that applications for housing investor loans had fallen 20 per cent in just three weeks since the May budget.

It is reasonable to assume Westpac’s experience has been mirrored across other lenders. If so, this represents a massive and almost instantaneous change.

ANZ and NAB have offered some numbers around what this is doing to house values – and it’s hair-raising.

ANZ is expecting capital city prices to fall 2.1 per cent in calendar 2026, which is a significant revision to its most recent forecast that they would go up 2.8 per cent this year – a near 5-percentage-point swing. And it is now forecasting prices will fall even more next year.

NAB’s views are similar to those of ANZ, which is predicting capital city prices will fall by about 2 per cent in 2026, having previously expected values to rise by 2 per cent.

The proposed capital gains tax change isn’t the only culprit, but it is certainly the last straw.

And while a 2 or 3 per cent fall in property values across the nation may not seem like a big deal, those combined capital values disguise some ugly price falls across our largest markets: Sydney and Melbourne.

Since the start of 2026, there has been significant price weakness in both those cities, while other capitals have experienced price buoyancy. But the smaller capitals seem to be hitting their peak or starting to turn, which is exposing the nasty naked falls in the two major cities.

ANZ expects home prices in Australia’s two biggest cities to fall about 8 per cent this year. “But that weakness is spreading across the country, and we are forecasting price falls in all the capitals next year,” its economists warn.

NAB says the falls across the eight capital cities will be driven by 6-7 per cent drops in Sydney and Melbourne house prices, and a material slowing in the mid-sized capitals.

The pullback in investor activity will be enough to move from a recent projected yearly peak in investor credit growth of 10.4 per cent to a year-on-year fall of 0.8 per cent in the July quarter.

Loans to owner-occupiers won’t dive to the same degree, but overall credit growth is expected to be more than halved.

ANZ’s economists “still see total housing credit growth easing sharply to a low of 2.9 per cent year-on-year in early 2028 (from 7.1 per cent year-on-year in 2026).”

Over time, the value of Australian residential property will resume its upward trajectory, the experts say. But it may take a few years before shell-shocked investors re-enter the market.

To the extent economists see a recovery in prices in 2028, it is on the back of the expectation that interest rates will be falling and that Donald Trump won’t launch another sentiment-crushing conflict.

You can’t really bank on either of those conditions.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/two-big-banks-have-slashed-their-house-price-forecasts-the-numbers-are-hair-raising-20260615-p606u9.html

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Date: 16/06/2026 10:29:29
From: Michael V
ID: 2401406
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


Two big banks have slashed their house price forecasts. The numbers are hair-raising

Elizabeth Knight
Business columnist
June 15, 2026 — 3:50pm

There has been a break in the big four banks’ ranks over the future of property prices. ANZ and NAB have capitulated over the past couple of days and joined the legion of economists predicting national capital house prices are heading down precipitously.

The signs are difficult to ignore – an avalanche of sellers, increasing levels of stale stock sitting on property portal shelves, and auction clearance rates wallowing around 50 per cent.

While the proposed removal of favourable tax treatment on property investing was being robustly (but cosmetically) debated in Canberra on Monday, the real-time effects of the policy to remove the tax incentives, including negative gearing, are glaringly clear.

The head of Westpac’s consumer bank, Carolyn McCann, last week removed any doubt when she declared that applications for housing investor loans had fallen 20 per cent in just three weeks since the May budget.

It is reasonable to assume Westpac’s experience has been mirrored across other lenders. If so, this represents a massive and almost instantaneous change.

ANZ and NAB have offered some numbers around what this is doing to house values – and it’s hair-raising.

ANZ is expecting capital city prices to fall 2.1 per cent in calendar 2026, which is a significant revision to its most recent forecast that they would go up 2.8 per cent this year – a near 5-percentage-point swing. And it is now forecasting prices will fall even more next year.

NAB’s views are similar to those of ANZ, which is predicting capital city prices will fall by about 2 per cent in 2026, having previously expected values to rise by 2 per cent.

The proposed capital gains tax change isn’t the only culprit, but it is certainly the last straw.

And while a 2 or 3 per cent fall in property values across the nation may not seem like a big deal, those combined capital values disguise some ugly price falls across our largest markets: Sydney and Melbourne.

Since the start of 2026, there has been significant price weakness in both those cities, while other capitals have experienced price buoyancy. But the smaller capitals seem to be hitting their peak or starting to turn, which is exposing the nasty naked falls in the two major cities.

ANZ expects home prices in Australia’s two biggest cities to fall about 8 per cent this year. “But that weakness is spreading across the country, and we are forecasting price falls in all the capitals next year,” its economists warn.

NAB says the falls across the eight capital cities will be driven by 6-7 per cent drops in Sydney and Melbourne house prices, and a material slowing in the mid-sized capitals.

The pullback in investor activity will be enough to move from a recent projected yearly peak in investor credit growth of 10.4 per cent to a year-on-year fall of 0.8 per cent in the July quarter.

Loans to owner-occupiers won’t dive to the same degree, but overall credit growth is expected to be more than halved.

ANZ’s economists “still see total housing credit growth easing sharply to a low of 2.9 per cent year-on-year in early 2028 (from 7.1 per cent year-on-year in 2026).”

Over time, the value of Australian residential property will resume its upward trajectory, the experts say. But it may take a few years before shell-shocked investors re-enter the market.

To the extent economists see a recovery in prices in 2028, it is on the back of the expectation that interest rates will be falling and that Donald Trump won’t launch another sentiment-crushing conflict.

You can’t really bank on either of those conditions.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/two-big-banks-have-slashed-their-house-price-forecasts-the-numbers-are-hair-raising-20260615-p606u9.html

Seems alarmist. Is it a good thing? I think it might be.

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Date: 16/06/2026 10:33:43
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2401411
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Two big banks have slashed their house price forecasts. The numbers are hair-raising

Elizabeth Knight
Business columnist
June 15, 2026 — 3:50pm

There has been a break in the big four banks’ ranks over the future of property prices. ANZ and NAB have capitulated over the past couple of days and joined the legion of economists predicting national capital house prices are heading down precipitously.

The signs are difficult to ignore – an avalanche of sellers, increasing levels of stale stock sitting on property portal shelves, and auction clearance rates wallowing around 50 per cent.

While the proposed removal of favourable tax treatment on property investing was being robustly (but cosmetically) debated in Canberra on Monday, the real-time effects of the policy to remove the tax incentives, including negative gearing, are glaringly clear.

The head of Westpac’s consumer bank, Carolyn McCann, last week removed any doubt when she declared that applications for housing investor loans had fallen 20 per cent in just three weeks since the May budget.

It is reasonable to assume Westpac’s experience has been mirrored across other lenders. If so, this represents a massive and almost instantaneous change.

ANZ and NAB have offered some numbers around what this is doing to house values – and it’s hair-raising.

ANZ is expecting capital city prices to fall 2.1 per cent in calendar 2026, which is a significant revision to its most recent forecast that they would go up 2.8 per cent this year – a near 5-percentage-point swing. And it is now forecasting prices will fall even more next year.

NAB’s views are similar to those of ANZ, which is predicting capital city prices will fall by about 2 per cent in 2026, having previously expected values to rise by 2 per cent.

The proposed capital gains tax change isn’t the only culprit, but it is certainly the last straw.

And while a 2 or 3 per cent fall in property values across the nation may not seem like a big deal, those combined capital values disguise some ugly price falls across our largest markets: Sydney and Melbourne.

Since the start of 2026, there has been significant price weakness in both those cities, while other capitals have experienced price buoyancy. But the smaller capitals seem to be hitting their peak or starting to turn, which is exposing the nasty naked falls in the two major cities.

ANZ expects home prices in Australia’s two biggest cities to fall about 8 per cent this year. “But that weakness is spreading across the country, and we are forecasting price falls in all the capitals next year,” its economists warn.

NAB says the falls across the eight capital cities will be driven by 6-7 per cent drops in Sydney and Melbourne house prices, and a material slowing in the mid-sized capitals.

The pullback in investor activity will be enough to move from a recent projected yearly peak in investor credit growth of 10.4 per cent to a year-on-year fall of 0.8 per cent in the July quarter.

Loans to owner-occupiers won’t dive to the same degree, but overall credit growth is expected to be more than halved.

ANZ’s economists “still see total housing credit growth easing sharply to a low of 2.9 per cent year-on-year in early 2028 (from 7.1 per cent year-on-year in 2026).”

Over time, the value of Australian residential property will resume its upward trajectory, the experts say. But it may take a few years before shell-shocked investors re-enter the market.

To the extent economists see a recovery in prices in 2028, it is on the back of the expectation that interest rates will be falling and that Donald Trump won’t launch another sentiment-crushing conflict.

You can’t really bank on either of those conditions.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/two-big-banks-have-slashed-their-house-price-forecasts-the-numbers-are-hair-raising-20260615-p606u9.html

Seems alarmist. Is it a good thing? I think it might be.

Certainly a small short-term fall in house prices is not disastrous: in the long-term house prices that rise in line with inflation is the preferred outcome.

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Date: 16/06/2026 10:39:56
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2401417
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Mr Mutant attended an investment webinar on the weekend where they were talking about this very thing. One of the key takeaways is that the current rental market will only get worse (duh) and they’re also expecting the housing market to fall slightly in the short term, as this article says.

Not that I’m any sort of economist but surely there’s a point where the arse falls out of the rental market because rent prices become unaffordable?

Not long ago, we were looking at investment properties. At current market value, a particular house would rent for something like $880/w with an increase to over $1000/w within two years.

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Date: 16/06/2026 10:54:41
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2401428
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Mr Mutant attended an investment webinar on the weekend where they were talking about this very thing. One of the key takeaways is that the current rental market will only get worse (duh) and they’re also expecting the housing market to fall slightly in the short term, as this article says.

Not that I’m any sort of economist but surely there’s a point where the arse falls out of the rental market because rent prices become unaffordable?

Not long ago, we were looking at investment properties. At current market value, a particular house would rent for something like $880/w with an increase to over $1000/w within two years.

The treasury modelling suggested only a small increase in rental prices. Personally I think they are underestimating how many new properties will be constructed and that these will be sufficient to bring down rental prices in a few years.

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Date: 16/06/2026 11:32:04
From: ms spock
ID: 2401441
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Adding your name ain’t gonna do shit but here it is anyway

https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/far-right-2026/stop-the-far-right/never-one-nation

I added my name anyway. It’s better than doing nothing.

I wrote a comment :

We can’t become like America. Pauline Hanson only attended 12% of her votes in Parliament. 88% of the time she wasn’t there to vote on the business for Australia.

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Date: 16/06/2026 11:38:21
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2401447
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Not long ago, we were looking at investment properties. At current market value, a particular house would rent for something like $880/w with an increase to over $1000/w within two years.

That sounds like a big jump, but that is essentially two increases of $60pw. We rent here in Adelaide, and we’ve not had a lease renewal that didn’t include an increase of at least $100pw.

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Date: 16/06/2026 11:57:58
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2401455
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


Divine Angel said:

Adding your name ain’t gonna do shit but here it is anyway

https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/far-right-2026/stop-the-far-right/never-one-nation

I added my name anyway. It’s better than doing nothing.

I wrote a comment :

We can’t become like America. Pauline Hanson only attended 12% of her votes in Parliament. 88% of the time she wasn’t there to vote on the business for Australia.

Pauline Hanson is Unfit to be Prime Minister.

She hasn’t got good insight, she lacks empathy and observation skills, has zero leadership qualities,
Is racist, doesn’t care about minority groups and is sucking up to a rich person. She doesn’t understand economics, progression, health, education, defence, industry or agriculture. Her stint in the Senate wearing an Islamic religious dress shows contempt and lack of respect.

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Date: 16/06/2026 11:59:46
From: Cymek
ID: 2401457
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


Divine Angel said:

Adding your name ain’t gonna do shit but here it is anyway

https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/far-right-2026/stop-the-far-right/never-one-nation

I added my name anyway. It’s better than doing nothing.

I wrote a comment :

We can’t become like America. Pauline Hanson only attended 12% of her votes in Parliament. 88% of the time she wasn’t there to vote on the business for Australia.

I’ve always thought people have an unrealistic view on a governments ability to control events and outcomes.
Especially middle tier powers
Its quite true it seems, and this would explain Pauline Hanson gaining followers as she exploits this to assign blame.
It seems it better to portray the illusion of control and cop blame then it is to say “hey we can’t actually do much at all”

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Date: 16/06/2026 12:15:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2401459
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:

Adding your name ain’t gonna do shit but here it is anyway

https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/far-right-2026/stop-the-far-right/never-one-nation

I added my name anyway. It’s better than doing nothing.

I wrote a comment :

We can’t become like America. Pauline Hanson only attended 12% of her votes in Parliament. 88% of the time she wasn’t there to vote on the business for Australia.

I’ve always thought people have an unrealistic view on a governments ability to control events and outcomes.
Especially middle tier powers
Its quite true it seems, and this would explain Pauline Hanson gaining followers as she exploits this to assign blame.
It seems it better to portray the illusion of control and cop blame then it is to say “hey we can’t actually do much at all”

One Nation candidates are all mutants.

You cannot expect much from mutants.

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Date: 16/06/2026 12:20:16
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2401461
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Tau.Neutrino said:


Cymek said:

ms spock said:

I added my name anyway. It’s better than doing nothing.

I wrote a comment :

We can’t become like America. Pauline Hanson only attended 12% of her votes in Parliament. 88% of the time she wasn’t there to vote on the business for Australia.

I’ve always thought people have an unrealistic view on a governments ability to control events and outcomes.
Especially middle tier powers
Its quite true it seems, and this would explain Pauline Hanson gaining followers as she exploits this to assign blame.
It seems it better to portray the illusion of control and cop blame then it is to say “hey we can’t actually do much at all”

One Nation candidates are all mutants.

You cannot expect much from mutants.

Dont expect one Nation mps to vote or turn up to meetings.

They will follow Pauline’s behaviour and stay away from their job.

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Date: 16/06/2026 12:27:57
From: ms spock
ID: 2401464
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Tau.Neutrino said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:

Adding your name ain’t gonna do shit but here it is anyway

https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/far-right-2026/stop-the-far-right/never-one-nation

I added my name anyway. It’s better than doing nothing.

I wrote a comment :

We can’t become like America. Pauline Hanson only attended 12% of her votes in Parliament. 88% of the time she wasn’t there to vote on the business for Australia.

Pauline Hanson is Unfit to be Prime Minister.

She hasn’t got good insight, she lacks empathy and observation skills, has zero leadership qualities,
Is racist, doesn’t care about minority groups and is sucking up to a rich person. She doesn’t understand economics, progression, health, education, defence, industry or agriculture. Her stint in the Senate wearing an Islamic religious dress shows contempt and lack of respect.

Comprehensive

Did you sign it and enter your comment?

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Date: 16/06/2026 12:28:59
From: ms spock
ID: 2401465
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:

Adding your name ain’t gonna do shit but here it is anyway

https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/far-right-2026/stop-the-far-right/never-one-nation

I added my name anyway. It’s better than doing nothing.

I wrote a comment :

We can’t become like America. Pauline Hanson only attended 12% of her votes in Parliament. 88% of the time she wasn’t there to vote on the business for Australia.

I’ve always thought people have an unrealistic view on a governments ability to control events and outcomes.
Especially middle tier powers
Its quite true it seems, and this would explain Pauline Hanson gaining followers as she exploits this to assign blame.
It seems it better to portray the illusion of control and cop blame then it is to say “hey we can’t actually do much at all”

Indeed Cymek

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Date: 16/06/2026 19:30:30
From: dv
ID: 2401633
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Am I going crazy or is that Chairman Mao?

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Date: 16/06/2026 19:49:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2401648
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Am I going crazy or is that Chairman Mao?

Looks like it.

Could have been worse, could have been Jesus.

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Date: 16/06/2026 20:13:22
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2401649
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 16/06/2026 20:16:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2401650
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:



:)

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Date: 16/06/2026 20:30:11
From: kii
ID: 2401651
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Am I going crazy or is that Chairman Mao?

Or…John Howard?

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Date: 16/06/2026 21:44:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2401660
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

fkn wokists

A teenager accused of planning to carry out a terror attack at a Queensland Labour Day event changed his target to the Liberal National Party after researching its nuclear power policy, a jury has heard.

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Date: 16/06/2026 22:35:54
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2401671
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

I don’t think we discussed Dave Hughes’ turn to the dark-side over the CGT and negative gearing changes. Stoopid cnut probably has 10 investment properties.

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Date: 16/06/2026 22:41:55
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2401674
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


I don’t think we discussed Dave Hughes’ turn to the dark-side over the CGT and negative gearing changes. Stoopid cnut probably has 10 investment properties.

do a search on his worth. he ain’t skink.

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Date: 16/06/2026 22:52:00
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2401678
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

I don’t think we discussed Dave Hughes’ turn to the dark-side over the CGT and negative gearing changes. Stoopid cnut probably has 10 investment properties.

do a search on his worth. he ain’t skink.

I have often heard it said by other comedians that he’s the hardest working guy in comedy so he’s certainly not hard-up. Those net-worth estimates you find on Google are generally bullshit IME.

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Date: 16/06/2026 22:56:54
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2401679
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


JudgeMental said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I don’t think we discussed Dave Hughes’ turn to the dark-side over the CGT and negative gearing changes. Stoopid cnut probably has 10 investment properties.

do a search on his worth. he ain’t skink.

I have often heard it said by other comedians that he’s the hardest working guy in comedy so he’s certainly not hard-up. Those net-worth estimates you find on Google are generally bullshit IME.

they do vary a great deal.

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Date: 16/06/2026 22:59:57
From: Kingy
ID: 2401680
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


I don’t think we discussed Dave Hughes’ turn to the dark-side over the CGT and negative gearing changes. Stoopid cnut probably has 10 investment properties.

I was already very unimpressed by his “comedy”.

It was just shouting stupid shit very loud.

He’s a fuckwit, and his recent behavior proves that.

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Date: 17/06/2026 05:06:54
From: Michael V
ID: 2401688
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Am I going crazy or is that Chairman Mao?

I can’t tell. PH is in the picture though. And in the picture in the picture.

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Date: 17/06/2026 10:58:48
From: Michael V
ID: 2401750
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

I wonder whether the conservatives intend to mass-advertise this on TV, like they do with their other projects.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-17/aboriginal-leaders-accuse-government-of-project-invisibility/106803276

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Date: 17/06/2026 12:27:18
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2401780
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Queensland just re-legalised property developer donations — the exact thing its own corruption watchdog banned — and within weeks developers handed over $170,000, including one bloke who paid $50,000 for lunch with the Deputy Premier in charge of $7 billion in Olympic contracts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JvKU-abtwY

The LNP corrupt?!?!? Imagine my surprise.

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Date: 17/06/2026 12:28:16
From: dv
ID: 2401782
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Spiny Norman said:


Queensland just re-legalised property developer donations — the exact thing its own corruption watchdog banned — and within weeks developers handed over $170,000, including one bloke who paid $50,000 for lunch with the Deputy Premier in charge of $7 billion in Olympic contracts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JvKU-abtwY

The LNP corrupt?!?!? Imagine my surprise.

They can’t help themselves

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Date: 17/06/2026 12:31:08
From: Michael V
ID: 2401785
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Spiny Norman said:

Queensland just re-legalised property developer donations — the exact thing its own corruption watchdog banned — and within weeks developers handed over $170,000, including one bloke who paid $50,000 for lunch with the Deputy Premier in charge of $7 billion in Olympic contracts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JvKU-abtwY

The LNP corrupt?!?!? Imagine my surprise.

They can’t help themselves

How else are they going to raise money for the constant barrage of adverts about what a fantastic job they are doing?

Wait. Sorry. We, the public pay for them out of our taxes.

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Date: 17/06/2026 12:51:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 2401800
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Pauline is having a National Press Conference.
Wonder how she will fare under questioning?

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Date: 17/06/2026 12:53:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2401804
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:

dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

Queensland just re-legalised property developer donations — the exact thing its own corruption watchdog banned — and within weeks developers handed over $170,000, including one bloke who paid $50,000 for lunch with the Deputy Premier in charge of $7 billion in Olympic contracts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JvKU-abtwY

The LNP corrupt?!?!? Imagine my surprise.

They can’t help themselves

How else are they going to raise money for the constant barrage of adverts about what a fantastic job they are doing?

Wait. Sorry. We, the public pay for them out of our taxes.

we mean sure they can, they’re helping themselves to it plenty

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Date: 17/06/2026 12:54:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2401805
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Pauline is having a National Press Conference.
Wonder how she will fare under questioning?

Does the press have to attend?

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Date: 17/06/2026 12:54:09
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2401806
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Pauline is having a National Press Conference.
Wonder how she will fare under questioning?

She’s got the spirit of Chairman Mao behind her

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Date: 17/06/2026 13:52:34
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2401840
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Pauline is going well in the conference.

VIDEO: Pauline Hanson’s Press Club address interrupted by protest banner

Pauline Hanson’s Press Club address has been interrupted after a banner appeared to unfurl behind the One Nation leader reading, “I opposed a pay rise for workers, while I took a $100,000 pay rise for myself”.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-17/pauline-hanson-s-press-club-address-interrupted/106808514

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Date: 17/06/2026 16:07:22
From: dv
ID: 2401872
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Yougov federal polling

2pp
ALP 52 ONP 48
ALP 52 LNP 48

Primaries
ALP 26
L-NP 21
ON 28
Green 13
Ind/other 12

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Date: 17/06/2026 17:07:57
From: ms spock
ID: 2401879
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


I don’t think we discussed Dave Hughes’ turn to the dark-side over the CGT and negative gearing changes. Stoopid cnut probably has 10 investment properties.

Hate Dave Hughes

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Date: 17/06/2026 17:09:14
From: Cymek
ID: 2401881
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

I don’t think we discussed Dave Hughes’ turn to the dark-side over the CGT and negative gearing changes. Stoopid cnut probably has 10 investment properties.

Hate Dave Hughes

Most people will sell out if money is involved

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Date: 17/06/2026 17:17:58
From: ms spock
ID: 2401883
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I don’t think we discussed Dave Hughes’ turn to the dark-side over the CGT and negative gearing changes. Stoopid cnut probably has 10 investment properties.

Hate Dave Hughes

Most people will sell out if money is involved

He really undermined Covid best practices. Total jerk.

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Date: 17/06/2026 18:50:59
From: ms spock
ID: 2401911
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


I wonder whether the conservatives intend to mass-advertise this on TV, like they do with their other projects.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-17/aboriginal-leaders-accuse-government-of-project-invisibility/106803276

The long term impacts will be so damaging.

😡😡😡

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Date: 17/06/2026 19:19:35
From: buffy
ID: 2401915
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

There doesn’t appear to have been any discussion about P. Hanson’s Press Club speech here. It’s all over the ABC radio.

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Date: 17/06/2026 19:20:01
From: dv
ID: 2401916
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Pretty good speech by PH

“Only still allow to the Chinese to come in there the belting road projects the ports that they’re building and that’s like they’ve said to us up you we’re actually going to just take the Chinese and have them here.”

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Date: 17/06/2026 19:21:55
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2401917
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Pretty good speech by PH

“Only still allow to the Chinese to come in there the belting road projects the ports that they’re building and that’s like they’ve said to us up you we’re actually going to just take the Chinese and have them here.”

he base will understand.

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Date: 17/06/2026 19:22:28
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2401918
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

buffy said:


There doesn’t appear to have been any discussion about P. Hanson’s Press Club speech here. It’s all over the ABC radio.

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Date: 17/06/2026 19:26:36
From: Michael V
ID: 2401919
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Pretty good speech by PH

“Only still allow to the Chinese to come in there the belting road projects the ports that they’re building and that’s like they’ve said to us up you we’re actually going to just take the Chinese and have them here.”

From Auntie: “The senator said One Nation opposed people coming to Australia and “bringing with them the troubles they have left behind”.”

Very logical.

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Date: 17/06/2026 19:46:27
From: party_pants
ID: 2401923
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Only glanced at the news, didn’t bother to watch or listen. The gist I got is that PH wants us to become a mini-USA.

I don’t want to be like the USA. I’m happy being a secular, atheist, suspicious and cynical person. I have sole Australian citizenship, I can’t move anywhere else, so I want the basic set-up of this country to stay the same. I do have sympathy for some heretical economic theories, but I am not expecting any radical reform to happen in that area.

I think what she wants is unconstitutional anyway, so undeliverable unless there is a referendum to seriously restrict our freedom of religion, and I can’t see that getting a double-majority.

Short summary: she don’t get my vote.

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Date: 17/06/2026 20:10:04
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2401927
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The danger is that the Labs do what the LibNats have done and fundamentally ignore (or dismiss) the concerns of people who have turned away from the major parties in support of ON.

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Date: 17/06/2026 21:06:16
From: ms spock
ID: 2401933
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Hi, writing to let you know we’ve just published the Jewish Council’s submission to the Royal Commission into Antisemitism and Social Cohesion.

It reflects the voices of over 2,500 Jews in Australia and their allies who see the fight against antisemitism as interconnected to the fight against all forms of racism and oppression. After weighing hundreds of personal accounts, deep policy and legal analysis, and academic antisemitism expertise, some of our recommendations for the Commission include:

Recognise the diversity of the Jewish community, including on Israel and Zionism;

Find that far-right extremism is a primary driver of antisemitism in Australia;

Find that the conflation of Jewish identity with Israel and its violence – a conflation pushed by Israel and its advocates – is actually a driver of antisemitism;

Recommend the rejection of the IHRA working definition and Universities Australia definitions of antisemitism in favour of other definitions or an overlapping consensus approach;

Endorse and fund the Australian Human Rights Commission’s National Anti-Racism Framework; and
Recommend against measures that criminalise Palestinian or pro-Palestinian political expression.

Antisemitism is real, it is rising, and it demands a serious response. But the evidence is clear: the dominant policy response adopted in Australia of punitive laws, the curtailment of civil liberties, and definitions that treat criticism of Israel as antisemitic don’t make Jews safer, they actually make things worse. Our safety and dignity is inseparable from the safety and dignity of others.

This submission is a distillation of so much of the Council’s work since its founding, two and a half short years ago. I’m extremely proud of it, and I wanted to write to offer my thanks for your support for all of the Council’s engagement with the Commission to date. Together, we have been able to provide a consistent, unequivocal progressive Jewish voice for human rights, civil liberties, and Palestinian liberation. In hearings, we’re represented by an incredible team of Counsel. We’ve been able to meet massive new reactive media demands, and even employed our first full-time staff member to lead this project.

It’s difficult to overstate how transformative these resources have been for an organisation that was until very recently entirely volunteer run. It’s already making a difference. The Commission has referred to submissions received from Jewish people disputing the IHRA definition and has specifically requested evidence from our members. (It’s also noteworthy that, after our legal team challenged the IHRA in Court, the ABC and SBS both informed the federal government that they would not be adopting it.)

This work is only becoming more salient. The resurgent Australian far-right is a hotbed of antisemitism even as it weaponises Jewish grief to legitimise attacks on migrant communities and religious minorities. Netanyahu has committed over USD $730 million to international propaganda in his March budget. And as the Royal Commission continues, groups in Australia are escalating attempts to misrepresent the Jewish community as monolithically pro-Israel.

There is so much to do! We’re currently developing a strategy to scale up and effectively counter these converging threats. But for now, we remain focused on the Commission. The next round of hearings kick off in just over a week and will focus on the online environment and the media. We know pro-Israel groups will argue that the media is bias against Israel, and for the media to stop reporting on Israel’s atrocities. We’ll be doing all we can to protect robust political discourse and honest reporting of Israel’s atrocities (especially by our public broadcasters) against antisemitism smears. We’ll keep you updated.

At 80 pages I don’t expect you to read it in full (although I know many of you definitely will), but if you want to check out the submission you can do so on our website.

In solidarity,
Sarah

Link

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Date: 17/06/2026 21:24:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2401942
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:

people coming to Australia and “bringing with them the troubles they have left behind

mmm we love a people that doesn’t learn their own history

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Date: 17/06/2026 21:26:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2401944
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

Pretty good speech by PH

“Only still allow to the Chinese to come in there the belting road projects the ports that they’re building and that’s like they’ve said to us up you we’re actually going to just take the Chinese and have them here.”

he base will understand.

it’s that neuro linguistic programming thing isn’t it, say the magic word over and over and boom instant hive mind

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Date: 17/06/2026 21:29:13
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2401948
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

Pretty good speech by PH

“Only still allow to the Chinese to come in there the belting road projects the ports that they’re building and that’s like they’ve said to us up you we’re actually going to just take the Chinese and have them here.”

he base will understand.

it’s that neuro linguistic programming thing isn’t it, say the magic word over and over and boom instant hive mind

Her base… not he base.

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Date: 17/06/2026 21:30:08
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2401949
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:


SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

he base will understand.

it’s that neuro linguistic programming thing isn’t it, say the magic word over and over and boom instant hive mind

Her base… not he base.

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Date: 17/06/2026 21:32:17
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2401950
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

poikilotherm said:


JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

it’s that neuro linguistic programming thing isn’t it, say the magic word over and over and boom instant hive mind

Her base… not he base.


maybe the us should be in capitals. if you know what I mean.

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Date: 17/06/2026 21:40:30
From: party_pants
ID: 2401951
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

poikilotherm said:


JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

it’s that neuro linguistic programming thing isn’t it, say the magic word over and over and boom instant hive mind

Her base… not he base.


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Date: 17/06/2026 22:58:35
From: dv
ID: 2401961
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

diddly-squat said:

The danger is that the Labs do what the LibNats have done and fundamentally ignore (or dismiss) the concerns of people who have turned away from the major parties in support of ON.

Sure, they have to listen.

OTOH issue-polling tends to suggest that Australians are overwhelmingly supportive of multiculturalism (like 70 to 80% in various polls), but about half of them think immigration levels are too high.

There’s an angle that Labor can use.

I wouldn’t be surprised if ON polls begin to subside once we get close to the election. It’s one thing to signal discontent to a pollster but I’m moderately hopeful that when it’s real, most people will decide that ON shouldn’t govern.

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Date: 18/06/2026 05:37:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 2401987
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

In short:

The media union says a “bitter” attack by Pauline Hanson against a journalist during her National Press Club address was unacceptable.

Labor and Liberal MPs have criticised One Nation’s treatment of the media, with one suggesting Senator Hanson must be more willing to face scrutiny.

What’s next?

Pauline Hanson says she will pursue the abolition of the SBS and deep cuts to the ABC if elected to government.

The Guardian has also defended its senior reporter Sarah Martin, saying it stands by the “rigour” of her reporting, and was concerned by One Nation’s statements suggesting The Guardian and other outlets including the ABC were not welcome at party events or press conferences.

Trumpism.

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Date: 18/06/2026 06:19:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 2401992
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The One Nation leader also used yesterday’s Press Club address to outline her intentions to completely abolish the SBS, which she said was no longer needed thanks to the internet, and make deep cuts to the ABC.

Senator Hanson suggested taxpayer funding could still support some regional broadcasting services, but otherwise the national broadcaster would be shifted to a subscription-based funding model.

She’s lost my vote for sure.

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Date: 18/06/2026 09:18:00
From: Michael V
ID: 2402020
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


The One Nation leader also used yesterday’s Press Club address to outline her intentions to completely abolish the SBS, which she said was no longer needed thanks to the internet, and make deep cuts to the ABC.

Senator Hanson suggested taxpayer funding could still support some regional broadcasting services, but otherwise the national broadcaster would be shifted to a subscription-based funding model.

She’s lost my vote for sure.

Did she ever have it?

She certainly never had mine, and never will.

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Date: 18/06/2026 09:24:21
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2402021
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

The One Nation leader also used yesterday’s Press Club address to outline her intentions to completely abolish the SBS, which she said was no longer needed thanks to the internet, and make deep cuts to the ABC.

Senator Hanson suggested taxpayer funding could still support some regional broadcasting services, but otherwise the national broadcaster would be shifted to a subscription-based funding model.

She’s lost my vote for sure.

Did she ever have it?

She certainly never had mine, and never will.

But what about after the compulsory brain transplants introduced to enforce monoculturalism?

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Date: 18/06/2026 09:37:17
From: Michael V
ID: 2402024
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

The One Nation leader also used yesterday’s Press Club address to outline her intentions to completely abolish the SBS, which she said was no longer needed thanks to the internet, and make deep cuts to the ABC.

Senator Hanson suggested taxpayer funding could still support some regional broadcasting services, but otherwise the national broadcaster would be shifted to a subscription-based funding model.

She’s lost my vote for sure.

Did she ever have it?

She certainly never had mine, and never will.

But what about after the compulsory brain transplants introduced to enforce monoculturalism?

Gosh!

I hope it doesn’t come to that.

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Date: 18/06/2026 10:24:21
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2402032
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Did she ever have it?

She certainly never had mine, and never will.

But what about after the compulsory brain transplants introduced to enforce monoculturalism?

Gosh!

I hope it doesn’t come to that.

and I hope I was just joking.

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Date: 18/06/2026 11:04:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2402052
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But what about after the compulsory brain transplants introduced to enforce monoculturalism?

Gosh!

I hope it doesn’t come to that.

and I hope I was just joking.

pretty sure social media manipulation is already 88.14% of the way there

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Date: 18/06/2026 11:05:02
From: Cymek
ID: 2402053
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Gosh!

I hope it doesn’t come to that.

and I hope I was just joking.

pretty sure social media manipulation is already 88.14% of the way there

How absolutely boring for society, mono culture

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Date: 18/06/2026 11:05:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2402054
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But what about after the compulsory brain transplants introduced to enforce monoculturalism?

Gosh!

I hope it doesn’t come to that.

and I hope I was just joking.

:)

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Date: 18/06/2026 11:07:41
From: dv
ID: 2402058
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/project-sunrise-route-announcement-toulouse

Sydney to London nonstop

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Date: 18/06/2026 11:10:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2402061
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/project-sunrise-route-announcement-toulouse

Sydney to London nonstop

do they overfly the ceasefire zone

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-18/qantas-project-sunrise-london-sydney/106811530

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Date: 18/06/2026 12:08:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402080
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

The One Nation leader also used yesterday’s Press Club address to outline her intentions to completely abolish the SBS, which she said was no longer needed thanks to the internet, and make deep cuts to the ABC.

Senator Hanson suggested taxpayer funding could still support some regional broadcasting services, but otherwise the national broadcaster would be shifted to a subscription-based funding model.

She’s lost my vote for sure.

Did she ever have it?

She certainly never had mine, and never will.

She never has had my vote but she’s pushing further away from being Australian, every day.

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Date: 18/06/2026 12:08:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402082
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

The One Nation leader also used yesterday’s Press Club address to outline her intentions to completely abolish the SBS, which she said was no longer needed thanks to the internet, and make deep cuts to the ABC.

Senator Hanson suggested taxpayer funding could still support some regional broadcasting services, but otherwise the national broadcaster would be shifted to a subscription-based funding model.

She’s lost my vote for sure.

Did she ever have it?

She certainly never had mine, and never will.

But what about after the compulsory brain transplants introduced to enforce monoculturalism?

They’ll be playing that in the supermarts next.

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Date: 18/06/2026 12:11:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402083
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But what about after the compulsory brain transplants introduced to enforce monoculturalism?

Gosh!

I hope it doesn’t come to that.

and I hope I was just joking.

She did say she is going to get rid of multiculturism. Equates to the same thing.

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Date: 18/06/2026 12:18:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2402085
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Gosh!

I hope it doesn’t come to that.

and I hope I was just joking.

She did say she is going to get rid of multiculturism. Equates to the same thing.

So which monoculture is she going for anyway?

I mean Scottish would make sense, but I doubt if all those people who see themselves as having English heritage would continue to support her if she did that.

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Date: 18/06/2026 12:20:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402087
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

and I hope I was just joking.

She did say she is going to get rid of multiculturism. Equates to the same thing.

So which monoculture is she going for anyway?

I mean Scottish would make sense, but I doubt if all those people who see themselves as having English heritage would continue to support her if she did that.

Maybe only rangas?

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Date: 18/06/2026 12:34:20
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2402094
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

She did say she is going to get rid of multiculturism. Equates to the same thing.

So which monoculture is she going for anyway?

I mean Scottish would make sense, but I doubt if all those people who see themselves as having English heritage would continue to support her if she did that.

Maybe only rangas?

salt of the earth we rangas are.

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Date: 18/06/2026 12:36:19
From: dv
ID: 2402095
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So which monoculture is she going for anyway?

I mean Scottish would make sense, but I doubt if all those people who see themselves as having English heritage would continue to support her if she did that.

Maybe only rangas?

salt of the earth we rangas are.

yet if the salt should lose its savour, wherewith shall it be salted?

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Date: 18/06/2026 12:55:37
From: Ian
ID: 2402105
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The press gallery didn’t ask any of the hard questions about this monoculture, health, childcare etc etc

..allegedly

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Date: 18/06/2026 12:56:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402107
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Ian said:


The press gallery didn’t ask any of the hard questions about this monoculture, health, childcare etc etc

..allegedly

She wants to ban any reporter asking the hard questions.

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Date: 18/06/2026 12:59:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2402110
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

salting the vibes

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Date: 18/06/2026 13:05:42
From: Ian
ID: 2402115
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Ian said:

The press gallery didn’t ask any of the hard questions about this monoculture, health, childcare etc etc

..allegedly

She wants to ban any reporter asking the hard questions.

So? She couldn’t avoid any interrogation yesterday… if only..

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Date: 18/06/2026 13:12:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2402119
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

JudgeMental said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So which monoculture is she going for anyway?

I mean Scottish would make sense, but I doubt if all those people who see themselves as having English heritage would continue to support her if she did that.

Maybe only rangas?

salt of the earth we rangas are.

From Salzburg?

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Date: 18/06/2026 18:03:33
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2402233
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Hope youse talked about this today.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-18/gina-rinehart-says-give-elon-musk-queensland-islands/106815000

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Date: 18/06/2026 18:34:23
From: buffy
ID: 2402238
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Hope youse talked about this today.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-18/gina-rinehart-says-give-elon-musk-queensland-islands/106815000

It’s only just gone up on the news.

Good grief…

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Date: 18/06/2026 18:37:15
From: buffy
ID: 2402239
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Hope youse talked about this today.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-18/gina-rinehart-says-give-elon-musk-queensland-islands/106815000

More here

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Date: 18/06/2026 18:40:08
From: Michael V
ID: 2402240
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Hope youse talked about this today.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-18/gina-rinehart-says-give-elon-musk-queensland-islands/106815000

F’k the fat bitch.

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Date: 18/06/2026 18:55:28
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2402241
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Hope youse talked about this today.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-18/gina-rinehart-says-give-elon-musk-queensland-islands/106815000

F’k the fat bitch.

No thank you

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Date: 18/06/2026 19:05:45
From: Michael V
ID: 2402245
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Hope youse talked about this today.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-18/gina-rinehart-says-give-elon-musk-queensland-islands/106815000

F’k the fat bitch.

No thank you

But with the rough end of a pineapple?

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Date: 18/06/2026 19:10:46
From: dv
ID: 2402249
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 18/06/2026 19:17:46
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2402250
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:



Did the definition of “smashed it out of the park” change?

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Date: 18/06/2026 19:25:03
From: Kingy
ID: 2402251
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:



“News” corpse.

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Date: 18/06/2026 20:32:56
From: kii
ID: 2402253
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

buffy said:


Divine Angel said:

Hope youse talked about this today.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-18/gina-rinehart-says-give-elon-musk-queensland-islands/106815000

More here

Damn I hate this shit. I feel sick.

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Date: 18/06/2026 23:16:42
From: dv
ID: 2402271
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-17/censure-motion-against-rockliff-passes-parliament/106811062

Tasmanian parliament has formally censured Rockliff, over his handling of recent ministerial scandals.

It’s a symbolic move but some commentators have suggested it is a warning that may be followed by a formal conife3nce vote if he doesn’t change.
This is the first time this has happened to a Tasmanian premier.

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Date: 19/06/2026 08:19:05
From: ms spock
ID: 2402297
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:



Sanewashing

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Date: 19/06/2026 08:21:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2402299
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:

dv said:


Sanewashing

loving this media manipulation, and how everyone is still sleepwalking into it

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Date: 19/06/2026 08:23:24
From: ms spock
ID: 2402302
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

dv said:


Sanewashing

loving this media manipulation, and how everyone is still sleepwalking into it

What’s not to love about it?

The world is going a bit insane.

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Date: 19/06/2026 08:36:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2402306
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

dv said:


Sanewashing

loving this media manipulation, and how everyone is still sleepwalking into it

Wot, everyone?

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Date: 19/06/2026 08:53:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402310
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

Sanewashing

loving this media manipulation, and how everyone is still sleepwalking into it

Wot, everyone?

Couldn’t possibly be.

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Date: 19/06/2026 09:53:23
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2402320
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


dv said:


Sanewashing

Her speech sounded like a bumbling old fool.

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Date: 19/06/2026 10:00:54
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2402322
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Tau.Neutrino said:


ms spock said:

dv said:


Sanewashing

Her speech sounded like a bumbling old fool.

At least she was her true self then.

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Date: 19/06/2026 10:00:54
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2402323
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Tau.Neutrino said:


ms spock said:

dv said:


Sanewashing

Her speech sounded like a bumbling old fool.

At least she was her true self then.

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Date: 19/06/2026 10:12:23
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2402328
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

Sanewashing

loving this media manipulation, and how everyone is still sleepwalking into it

Wot, everyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZFUVI6symA

Link

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Date: 19/06/2026 10:20:04
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2402329
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

loving this media manipulation, and how everyone is still sleepwalking into it

Wot, everyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZFUVI6symA

Link

Nice and short. I won’t bother with the transcript.

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Date: 19/06/2026 10:21:22
From: Cymek
ID: 2402330
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

ms spock said:

Sanewashing

Her speech sounded like a bumbling old fool.

At least she was her true self then.

She has a lot of support
I assume Australia will head the way of a number of nations and elect fascist leaning politicians with no actual solution just blame.

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Date: 19/06/2026 11:08:38
From: ms spock
ID: 2402341
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Tau.Neutrino said:


ms spock said:

dv said:


Sanewashing

Her speech sounded like a bumbling old fool.

Look at the title. You will watch the press briefing and you will apply critical thinking skills. For a lot of folks the title will be all that they read.

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Date: 19/06/2026 11:09:26
From: Ian
ID: 2402343
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 19/06/2026 12:10:02
From: dv
ID: 2402375
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/airtrain-valuation-revealed-prompting-push-for-compulsory-buyback-20260527-p6018b.html

The Queensland government could acquire Brisbane’s privately operated Airtrain for $45 million, the state’s lone Greens MP says, based on analysis drawing on the asset’s reported financial value.

The proposal centres on financial statements from USS Axle, a subsidiary of UK-based pension fund Universities Superannuation Scheme that acquired the Airtrain in 2013.

A spokesman for Queensland Transport Minister Brent Mickelberg said the government was committed to the current arrangement.

Under that arrangement, Airtrain has exclusive rights under a 35-year contract with the state government that started in 2001. At the end of the contract in 2036, the asset would be returned to the state.

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Date: 19/06/2026 14:46:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2402429
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

freedom

A marked police van will be used outside major events or in crowded areas to live scan the faces of people walking past, in an Australian first. The faces of people will be matched against a database of people with outstanding arrest warrants and registered child sex offenders, as well as missing persons.

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Date: 19/06/2026 14:51:09
From: Cymek
ID: 2402431
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

freedom

A marked police van will be used outside major events or in crowded areas to live scan the faces of people walking past, in an Australian first. The faces of people will be matched against a database of people with outstanding arrest warrants and registered child sex offenders, as well as missing persons.

Registered child sex offenders are sometimes in places they aren’t allowed.
Opportunity for them and then it could be too late

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Date: 19/06/2026 14:53:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2402434
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

freedom

A marked police van will be used outside major events or in crowded areas to live scan the faces of people walking past, in an Australian first. The faces of people will be matched against a database of people with outstanding arrest warrants and registered child sex offenders, as well as missing persons.

Registered child sex offenders are sometimes in places they aren’t allowed.
Opportunity for them and then it could be too late

we loved all the comments and responses they dug up, “they shouldn’t be surveilling people in public spaces, we don’t like having photographs taken in public, this is communism, dirty immigrants who don’t like it should leave”, like hey did you lot actually know about people operating cameras in public spaces but suddenly it’s labelled “police” and it’s bad

disclaimer some of those comments and responses were made up by us de novo to illustrate the kind of pattern we’re seeing and may not actually have been direct quotes

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Date: 19/06/2026 14:57:45
From: party_pants
ID: 2402437
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

freedom

A marked police van will be used outside major events or in crowded areas to live scan the faces of people walking past, in an Australian first. The faces of people will be matched against a database of people with outstanding arrest warrants and registered child sex offenders, as well as missing persons.

Registered child sex offenders are sometimes in places they aren’t allowed.
Opportunity for them and then it could be too late

Are they not allowed at major events or busy crowded places?

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Date: 19/06/2026 15:05:33
From: Cymek
ID: 2402440
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

freedom

A marked police van will be used outside major events or in crowded areas to live scan the faces of people walking past, in an Australian first. The faces of people will be matched against a database of people with outstanding arrest warrants and registered child sex offenders, as well as missing persons.

Registered child sex offenders are sometimes in places they aren’t allowed.
Opportunity for them and then it could be too late

Are they not allowed at major events or busy crowded places?

Possibly.
Often it includes being near entertainment precincts

They try to minimise any opportunity for predatory type behaviour.

I don’t come across the highly dangerous ones, they can have dozens of locations they are banned from.

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Date: 19/06/2026 15:34:45
From: ms spock
ID: 2402460
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

freedom

A marked police van will be used outside major events or in crowded areas to live scan the faces of people walking past, in an Australian first. The faces of people will be matched against a database of people with outstanding arrest warrants and registered child sex offenders, as well as missing persons.

Registered child sex offenders are sometimes in places they aren’t allowed.
Opportunity for them and then it could be too late

Mostly they are in our families and homes.

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Date: 19/06/2026 16:56:42
From: dv
ID: 2402506
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Been getting bright yellow Clive Palmer leaflets in the mailbox.

“I still exist!” Aw that’s just swell.

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Date: 19/06/2026 16:58:34
From: party_pants
ID: 2402509
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Been getting bright yellow Clive Palmer leaflets in the mailbox.

“I still exist!” Aw that’s just swell.

Me too. They gone into the bin unread.

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Date: 19/06/2026 17:00:49
From: Michael V
ID: 2402512
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Been getting bright yellow Clive Palmer leaflets in the mailbox.

“I still exist!” Aw that’s just swell.

Good. Perhaps he might divide and conquer PHON.

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Date: 19/06/2026 17:22:54
From: buffy
ID: 2402518
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Been getting bright yellow Clive Palmer leaflets in the mailbox.

“I still exist!” Aw that’s just swell.

We got a rather desperate leaflet in the mail today from Dan Tehan (our local member) telling us what shit managers the Government is.

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Date: 19/06/2026 17:27:12
From: ms spock
ID: 2402520
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

freedom

A marked police van will be used outside major events or in crowded areas to live scan the faces of people walking past, in an Australian first. The faces of people will be matched against a database of people with outstanding arrest warrants and registered child sex offenders, as well as missing persons.

Registered child sex offenders are sometimes in places they aren’t allowed.
Opportunity for them and then it could be too late

we loved all the comments and responses they dug up, “they shouldn’t be surveilling people in public spaces, we don’t like having photographs taken in public, this is communism, dirty immigrants who don’t like it should leave”, like hey did you lot actually know about people operating cameras in public spaces but suddenly it’s labelled “police” and it’s bad

disclaimer some of those comments and responses were made up by us de novo to illustrate the kind of pattern we’re seeing and may not actually have been direct quotes

How very Vance of you.

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Date: 19/06/2026 17:39:38
From: Michael V
ID: 2402521
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

buffy said:


dv said:

Been getting bright yellow Clive Palmer leaflets in the mailbox.

“I still exist!” Aw that’s just swell.

We got a rather desperate leaflet in the mail today from Dan Tehan (our local member) telling us what shit managers the Government is.

Imagine how much worse PHON will be.

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Date: 19/06/2026 19:12:21
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2402550
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

I won’t be clicking on that because Albo’s mate and Pauline are both things.

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Date: 19/06/2026 19:14:50
From: Michael V
ID: 2402552
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Peak Warming Man said:


I won’t be clicking on that because Albo’s mate and Pauline are both things.

PH is now his bestie.

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Date: 19/06/2026 19:19:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402556
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

buffy said:


dv said:

Been getting bright yellow Clive Palmer leaflets in the mailbox.

“I still exist!” Aw that’s just swell.

We got a rather desperate leaflet in the mail today from Dan Tehan (our local member) telling us what shit managers the Government is.

They all hate Labor.

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Date: 19/06/2026 21:24:35
From: Kingy
ID: 2402615
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Been getting bright yellow Clive Palmer leaflets in the mailbox.

“I still exist!” Aw that’s just swell.

I went to the PO Boxes yesterday, before I opened any, I noticed a pile of yellow paper stacked on top of the PO Boxes.

When I opened the Fire Brigade box, there was yellow spam. I then realised what the stack of yellow paper was, so I added to it.

When I opened the business PO Box, there was more yellow spam. Also added to the pile

When I opened my own PO Box, guess what? More yellow spam.

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Date: 20/06/2026 07:54:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402703
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Where does ‘monoculturalism’ exist?

Professor Gamlen said truly monocultural nations did not exist.

“The first thing to say is monoculturalism is a fiction … All societies have differences in them,” he said.

But he said some nations had tried to remove these differences, and portray themselves as homogenous, more than others.

“The question is … what type of difference exists, and then also what types and levels of difference are tolerable and desirable?”

In her speech, Senator Hanson objected to two aspects of modern Australia in particular: The number of people who were born overseas, and the number of people who spoke a language other than English at home.

She also appeared to oppose religious diversity, saying migrants should adopt a “Judeo-Christian” perspective.

Observers say that without more details, it’s unclear exactly how Senator Hanson is proposing to make Australia “monocultural”.

“What part of our culture would we forfeit for assimilation into Hanson’s ‘monocultural’ world?” Kapetopoulos asked.

Senator Hanson’s office has been contacted for comment.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-20/what-is-monoculturalism-and-what-does-it-look-like-in-practice/106818222

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Date: 20/06/2026 07:58:22
From: Michael V
ID: 2402704
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Uh-oh.

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Date: 20/06/2026 08:06:41
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2402709
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

In her speech, Senator Hanson objected to two aspects of modern Australia in particular: The number of people who were born overseas, and the number of people who spoke a language other than English at home.
She also appeared to oppose religious diversity, saying migrants should adopt a “Judeo-Christian” perspective.

She’s gonna be raging at the census results. I’m sure she’s fine with me, having a mother born in the Catholic, white part of Europe…

I’m willing to bet sooner or later she’s going to become suddenly concerned about what’s inside people’s underpants. Transphobia is a popular platform.

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Date: 20/06/2026 08:18:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402710
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


bq. In her speech, Senator Hanson objected to two aspects of modern Australia in particular: The number of people who were born overseas, and the number of people who spoke a language other than English at home.
She also appeared to oppose religious diversity, saying migrants should adopt a “Judeo-Christian” perspective.

She’s gonna be raging at the census results. I’m sure she’s fine with me, having a mother born in the Catholic, white part of Europe…

I’m willing to bet sooner or later she’s going to become suddenly concerned about what’s inside people’s underpants. Transphobia is a popular platform.

What concerns me is that those who voted for her in this area knew all of this about her beforehand. It basically means I have to be careful what I say in front of the locals. This is dividing old friendships and even families.

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Date: 20/06/2026 08:28:03
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2402712
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

bq. In her speech, Senator Hanson objected to two aspects of modern Australia in particular: The number of people who were born overseas, and the number of people who spoke a language other than English at home.
She also appeared to oppose religious diversity, saying migrants should adopt a “Judeo-Christian” perspective.

She’s gonna be raging at the census results. I’m sure she’s fine with me, having a mother born in the Catholic, white part of Europe…

I’m willing to bet sooner or later she’s going to become suddenly concerned about what’s inside people’s underpants. Transphobia is a popular platform.

What concerns me is that those who voted for her in this area knew all of this about her beforehand. It basically means I have to be careful what I say in front of the locals. This is dividing old friendships and even families.

I have friends who are from Atlanta, Georgia, deep the in US South. The wife is white, her husband is Black. They are both anti-Trump and he experienced rampant racism in the US. Yesterday he was saying that he’s unfriended a lot of peers in the past ~10 years because they support Trump, or at least agree with his ideas. He said, as a father of three girls, he cannot understand why someone with daughters can possibly think Trump’s stance is OK. It’s just the tip of the iceberg as far as Trumpism goes, but the same wretched ideas are now pouring from PHONy’s mouth and the public seem to be eating it up, according to the media.

As friendlyjordies said during the week, Poorline’s voters are single-issue voters. Find the issue that matters to them, and you win. In her case, immigration. They’re taking our housing, our jobs, eating the cats and dogs…

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Date: 20/06/2026 08:54:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402713
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

bq. In her speech, Senator Hanson objected to two aspects of modern Australia in particular: The number of people who were born overseas, and the number of people who spoke a language other than English at home.
She also appeared to oppose religious diversity, saying migrants should adopt a “Judeo-Christian” perspective.

She’s gonna be raging at the census results. I’m sure she’s fine with me, having a mother born in the Catholic, white part of Europe…

I’m willing to bet sooner or later she’s going to become suddenly concerned about what’s inside people’s underpants. Transphobia is a popular platform.

What concerns me is that those who voted for her in this area knew all of this about her beforehand. It basically means I have to be careful what I say in front of the locals. This is dividing old friendships and even families.

I have friends who are from Atlanta, Georgia, deep the in US South. The wife is white, her husband is Black. They are both anti-Trump and he experienced rampant racism in the US. Yesterday he was saying that he’s unfriended a lot of peers in the past ~10 years because they support Trump, or at least agree with his ideas. He said, as a father of three girls, he cannot understand why someone with daughters can possibly think Trump’s stance is OK. It’s just the tip of the iceberg as far as Trumpism goes, but the same wretched ideas are now pouring from PHONy’s mouth and the public seem to be eating it up, according to the media.

As friendlyjordies said during the week, Poorline’s voters are single-issue voters. Find the issue that matters to them, and you win. In her case, immigration. They’re taking our housing, our jobs, eating the cats and dogs…

Back in 1972 we were worrying about the limits of growth and were looking at how many people per sq m there would be in the future. We knew about the possibility of climate change bit hadn’t factored in what that could do to cause an increase in refugees.

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Date: 20/06/2026 09:35:53
From: Michael V
ID: 2402714
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

bq. In her speech, Senator Hanson objected to two aspects of modern Australia in particular: The number of people who were born overseas, and the number of people who spoke a language other than English at home.
She also appeared to oppose religious diversity, saying migrants should adopt a “Judeo-Christian” perspective.

She’s gonna be raging at the census results. I’m sure she’s fine with me, having a mother born in the Catholic, white part of Europe…

I’m willing to bet sooner or later she’s going to become suddenly concerned about what’s inside people’s underpants. Transphobia is a popular platform.

What concerns me is that those who voted for her in this area knew all of this about her beforehand. It basically means I have to be careful what I say in front of the locals. This is dividing old friendships and even families.

I have friends who are from Atlanta, Georgia, deep the in US South. The wife is white, her husband is Black. They are both anti-Trump and he experienced rampant racism in the US. Yesterday he was saying that he’s unfriended a lot of peers in the past ~10 years because they support Trump, or at least agree with his ideas. He said, as a father of three girls, he cannot understand why someone with daughters can possibly think Trump’s stance is OK. It’s just the tip of the iceberg as far as Trumpism goes, but the same wretched ideas are now pouring from PHONy’s mouth and the public seem to be eating it up, according to the media.

As friendlyjordies said during the week, Poorline’s voters are single-issue voters. Find the issue that matters to them, and you win. In her case, immigration. They’re taking our housing, our jobs, eating the cats and dogs…

It’s a concern all right. I still don’t understand what’s driving all this stuff. I really don’t get why people are taken in by the whining and then the nonsense solutions she proposes.

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Date: 20/06/2026 09:48:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402715
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

What concerns me is that those who voted for her in this area knew all of this about her beforehand. It basically means I have to be careful what I say in front of the locals. This is dividing old friendships and even families.

I have friends who are from Atlanta, Georgia, deep the in US South. The wife is white, her husband is Black. They are both anti-Trump and he experienced rampant racism in the US. Yesterday he was saying that he’s unfriended a lot of peers in the past ~10 years because they support Trump, or at least agree with his ideas. He said, as a father of three girls, he cannot understand why someone with daughters can possibly think Trump’s stance is OK. It’s just the tip of the iceberg as far as Trumpism goes, but the same wretched ideas are now pouring from PHONy’s mouth and the public seem to be eating it up, according to the media.

As friendlyjordies said during the week, Poorline’s voters are single-issue voters. Find the issue that matters to them, and you win. In her case, immigration. They’re taking our housing, our jobs, eating the cats and dogs…

It’s a concern all right. I still don’t understand what’s driving all this stuff. I really don’t get why people are taken in by the whining and then the nonsense solutions she proposes.

Pauline Hanson’s One Notion Yobbo’s = PHONY.

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Date: 20/06/2026 10:03:41
From: Michael V
ID: 2402721
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

H5 Bird Flu is confirmed. Let’s hope things work out well.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-20/deadly-h5-bird-flu-variant-detected-in-australia-for-first-time/105318980

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Date: 20/06/2026 10:11:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402723
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


H5 Bird Flu is confirmed. Let’s hope things work out well.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-20/deadly-h5-bird-flu-variant-detected-in-australia-for-first-time/105318980

There may yet be more occurrences. We’ve been lucky so far that this hasn’t arrived before.

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Date: 20/06/2026 10:15:12
From: ms spock
ID: 2402724
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


bq. In her speech, Senator Hanson objected to two aspects of modern Australia in particular: The number of people who were born overseas, and the number of people who spoke a language other than English at home.
She also appeared to oppose religious diversity, saying migrants should adopt a “Judeo-Christian” perspective.

She’s gonna be raging at the census results. I’m sure she’s fine with me, having a mother born in the Catholic, white part of Europe…

I’m willing to bet sooner or later she’s going to become suddenly concerned about what’s inside people’s underpants. Transphobia is a popular platform.

The shitty thing about that is, (outside of the bigotry) is women like me, who don’t dress in patriarchal feminine heteronormative ways, get challenged in women’s bathrooms. It’s really annoying.

They come for one group of us, then they come for more.

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Date: 20/06/2026 10:16:59
From: ms spock
ID: 2402725
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

bq. In her speech, Senator Hanson objected to two aspects of modern Australia in particular: The number of people who were born overseas, and the number of people who spoke a language other than English at home.
She also appeared to oppose religious diversity, saying migrants should adopt a “Judeo-Christian” perspective.

She’s gonna be raging at the census results. I’m sure she’s fine with me, having a mother born in the Catholic, white part of Europe…

I’m willing to bet sooner or later she’s going to become suddenly concerned about what’s inside people’s underpants. Transphobia is a popular platform.

What concerns me is that those who voted for her in this area knew all of this about her beforehand. It basically means I have to be careful what I say in front of the locals. This is dividing old friendships and even families.

Terribly sad.

Folks fighting against each other instead the 1% who are strip mining our planet.

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Date: 20/06/2026 10:20:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402726
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

bq. In her speech, Senator Hanson objected to two aspects of modern Australia in particular: The number of people who were born overseas, and the number of people who spoke a language other than English at home.
She also appeared to oppose religious diversity, saying migrants should adopt a “Judeo-Christian” perspective.

She’s gonna be raging at the census results. I’m sure she’s fine with me, having a mother born in the Catholic, white part of Europe…

I’m willing to bet sooner or later she’s going to become suddenly concerned about what’s inside people’s underpants. Transphobia is a popular platform.

What concerns me is that those who voted for her in this area knew all of this about her beforehand. It basically means I have to be careful what I say in front of the locals. This is dividing old friendships and even families.

Terribly sad.

Folks fighting against each other instead the 1% who are strip mining our planet.

I’m trying not to get involved in fighting about anything. I’d rather to simply go on planting trees.

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Date: 20/06/2026 10:22:18
From: ms spock
ID: 2402727
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

bq. In her speech, Senator Hanson objected to two aspects of modern Australia in particular: The number of people who were born overseas, and the number of people who spoke a language other than English at home.
She also appeared to oppose religious diversity, saying migrants should adopt a “Judeo-Christian” perspective.

She’s gonna be raging at the census results. I’m sure she’s fine with me, having a mother born in the Catholic, white part of Europe…

I’m willing to bet sooner or later she’s going to become suddenly concerned about what’s inside people’s underpants. Transphobia is a popular platform.

What concerns me is that those who voted for her in this area knew all of this about her beforehand. It basically means I have to be careful what I say in front of the locals. This is dividing old friendships and even families.

I have friends who are from Atlanta, Georgia, deep the in US South. The wife is white, her husband is Black. They are both anti-Trump and he experienced rampant racism in the US. Yesterday he was saying that he’s unfriended a lot of peers in the past ~10 years because they support Trump, or at least agree with his ideas. He said, as a father of three girls, he cannot understand why someone with daughters can possibly think Trump’s stance is OK. It’s just the tip of the iceberg as far as Trumpism goes, but the same wretched ideas are now pouring from PHONy’s mouth and the public seem to be eating it up, according to the media.

As friendlyjordies said during the week, Poorline’s voters are single-issue voters. Find the issue that matters to them, and you win. In her case, immigration. They’re taking our housing, our jobs, eating the cats and dogs…

I think people vote for Trump because that are like Trump and do what he does or want to be like him and do what he does.

1 in 3 girls experience an attempted or completed rape between 11 and 17 in the US. Usually from their fathers, uncles, grandfathers, close male relatives or family friends.

See National Sexual Violence Resource Center

Link

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Date: 20/06/2026 10:58:10
From: ms spock
ID: 2402732
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

What concerns me is that those who voted for her in this area knew all of this about her beforehand. It basically means I have to be careful what I say in front of the locals. This is dividing old friendships and even families.

I have friends who are from Atlanta, Georgia, deep the in US South. The wife is white, her husband is Black. They are both anti-Trump and he experienced rampant racism in the US. Yesterday he was saying that he’s unfriended a lot of peers in the past ~10 years because they support Trump, or at least agree with his ideas. He said, as a father of three girls, he cannot understand why someone with daughters can possibly think Trump’s stance is OK. It’s just the tip of the iceberg as far as Trumpism goes, but the same wretched ideas are now pouring from PHONy’s mouth and the public seem to be eating it up, according to the media.

As friendlyjordies said during the week, Poorline’s voters are single-issue voters. Find the issue that matters to them, and you win. In her case, immigration. They’re taking our housing, our jobs, eating the cats and dogs…

It’s a concern all right. I still don’t understand what’s driving all this stuff. I really don’t get why people are taken in by the whining and then the nonsense solutions she proposes.

65% of Queenslanders are reading and writing at a 5th grade level. I learnt that when I was studying teaching. That lecturer said that the Queensland government writes the government websites at a 3rd Grade level. This to get the information out to the largest group of people as possible.

If you are at a 5th Grade level then you haven’t developmentally transitioned from concrete thinking to abstract thinking. There are few, if any critical thinking skills. If you only ever read the headlines and never the articles you don’t realise a lot of it was just clickbait.

For the short time I was teaching I had a student have a total meltdown on me about the fact that she’s been living in a tent for three years and she couldn’t get her homework done. Both her parents work, there’s no housing in their price range.

At Griffith University were taught that 1 i n 5 students came to school without breakfast or went without dinner last night. Now it’s 1 in 3 Australians living with food insecurity. Parents are skipping meals so their kids can eat. I volunteered and taught for OzHarvest. This information is in their website.

I got in trouble for taking a kid up to the tuckshop and buying them a sandwich for lunch and a couple to eat that might. The Queensland Teachers Union said that I was showing “favouritism”. Feic the Queensland Teachers Union.

The algorithms released on X/Twitter hack our brains fueling hate and division. Yuval Noah Harari write about this. Folks are angry and scared so n they go into full on scapegoating mode. Folks feel powerless so they want to direct their rage at someone. Look at the constant dehumanisation of Indigenous Australians in our media. John Piliger wrote and spoke eloquently about this.

America is based on this. You know the Lyndon Johnson wrote of “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you”.

So Silicon Valley tech bros don’t give their kids devices and mobile phones. When they do , at around 16, they lock them up at night to make sure they get a good night’s sleep because of how addictive the algorithms are. Steve Job’s kids didn’t get iPads.

China has legislated one hour per kid on social media. They want to curtail the impacts on their kids developing brains.

I think that the algorithms are poorly understood for their impacts. If you are vulnerable to manipulation due to your lack of literacy then your fears and anger can by harnessed by marketing and algorithms.


This discusses the 65% reading and writing at a 5th grade level in Queensland and how as teachers we can produce change so that rate goes down.

There’s probably a whole lot of factors that I am not taking into account, but that’s my 2 cents worth.

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Date: 20/06/2026 11:03:22
From: Michael V
ID: 2402734
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


Divine Angel said:

bq. In her speech, Senator Hanson objected to two aspects of modern Australia in particular: The number of people who were born overseas, and the number of people who spoke a language other than English at home.
She also appeared to oppose religious diversity, saying migrants should adopt a “Judeo-Christian” perspective.

She’s gonna be raging at the census results. I’m sure she’s fine with me, having a mother born in the Catholic, white part of Europe…

I’m willing to bet sooner or later she’s going to become suddenly concerned about what’s inside people’s underpants. Transphobia is a popular platform.

The shitty thing about that is, (outside of the bigotry) is women like me, who don’t dress in patriarchal feminine heteronormative ways, get challenged in women’s bathrooms. It’s really annoying.

They come for one group of us, then they come for more.

Mrs V doesn’t get challenged. She has a #2 haircut…

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Date: 20/06/2026 11:10:53
From: ms spock
ID: 2402738
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

H5 Bird Flu is confirmed. Let’s hope things work out well.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-20/deadly-h5-bird-flu-variant-detected-in-australia-for-first-time/105318980

There may yet be more occurrences. We’ve been lucky so far that this hasn’t arrived before.

When I used to work with birds I did the training for Bird Flu. After doing the training I no longer rescued seabirds or migratory species. We watched a documentary showing in America how the person who had Bird Flu were forced into quarantine and how their house was wrapped in a thick plastic and there was no movement allowed in or out of that suburb not only by the infected person but also all their neighbours.

Biden totally dropped the ball with Bird Flu, despite having the Obama administration Pandemic Handbook. He didn’t ramp up testing, her didn’t provide ring vaccinations, he didn’t provide funding for training, he didn’t provide workers with PPEs, stop the movement of infected animals, mandate the removal and destruction of dead carcasses, he didn’t provide sick leave for infected workers and their families, etc etc etc.

His lack of appropriate protections and protocols are quite chilling to me.

It was in the 2,000s when I did my training. There would be a ton more research available now.

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Date: 20/06/2026 11:11:42
From: ms spock
ID: 2402739
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

What concerns me is that those who voted for her in this area knew all of this about her beforehand. It basically means I have to be careful what I say in front of the locals. This is dividing old friendships and even families.

Terribly sad.

Folks fighting against each other instead the 1% who are strip mining our planet.

I’m trying not to get involved in fighting about anything. I’d rather to simply go on planting trees.

Planting trees sounds awesome. 🍀

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Date: 20/06/2026 11:16:02
From: Michael V
ID: 2402740
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

I have friends who are from Atlanta, Georgia, deep the in US South. The wife is white, her husband is Black. They are both anti-Trump and he experienced rampant racism in the US. Yesterday he was saying that he’s unfriended a lot of peers in the past ~10 years because they support Trump, or at least agree with his ideas. He said, as a father of three girls, he cannot understand why someone with daughters can possibly think Trump’s stance is OK. It’s just the tip of the iceberg as far as Trumpism goes, but the same wretched ideas are now pouring from PHONy’s mouth and the public seem to be eating it up, according to the media.

As friendlyjordies said during the week, Poorline’s voters are single-issue voters. Find the issue that matters to them, and you win. In her case, immigration. They’re taking our housing, our jobs, eating the cats and dogs…

It’s a concern all right. I still don’t understand what’s driving all this stuff. I really don’t get why people are taken in by the whining and then the nonsense solutions she proposes.

65% of Queenslanders are reading and writing at a 5th grade level. I learnt that when I was studying teaching. That lecturer said that the Queensland government writes the government websites at a 3rd Grade level. This to get the information out to the largest group of people as possible.

If you are at a 5th Grade level then you haven’t developmentally transitioned from concrete thinking to abstract thinking. There are few, if any critical thinking skills. If you only ever read the headlines and never the articles you don’t realise a lot of it was just clickbait.

For the short time I was teaching I had a student have a total meltdown on me about the fact that she’s been living in a tent for three years and she couldn’t get her homework done. Both her parents work, there’s no housing in their price range.

At Griffith University were taught that 1 i n 5 students came to school without breakfast or went without dinner last night. Now it’s 1 in 3 Australians living with food insecurity. Parents are skipping meals so their kids can eat. I volunteered and taught for OzHarvest. This information is in their website.

I got in trouble for taking a kid up to the tuckshop and buying them a sandwich for lunch and a couple to eat that might. The Queensland Teachers Union said that I was showing “favouritism”. Feic the Queensland Teachers Union.

The algorithms released on X/Twitter hack our brains fueling hate and division. Yuval Noah Harari write about this. Folks are angry and scared so n they go into full on scapegoating mode. Folks feel powerless so they want to direct their rage at someone. Look at the constant dehumanisation of Indigenous Australians in our media. John Piliger wrote and spoke eloquently about this.

America is based on this. You know the Lyndon Johnson wrote of “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you”.

So Silicon Valley tech bros don’t give their kids devices and mobile phones. When they do , at around 16, they lock them up at night to make sure they get a good night’s sleep because of how addictive the algorithms are. Steve Job’s kids didn’t get iPads.

China has legislated one hour per kid on social media. They want to curtail the impacts on their kids developing brains.

I think that the algorithms are poorly understood for their impacts. If you are vulnerable to manipulation due to your lack of literacy then your fears and anger can by harnessed by marketing and algorithms.


This discusses the 65% reading and writing at a 5th grade level in Queensland and how as teachers we can produce change so that rate goes down.

There’s probably a whole lot of factors that I am not taking into account, but that’s my 2 cents worth.

Fair enough. But how do we distil this down?

(NB: The reading ages of most people was quite poor until the 1960s and 1970s.)

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Date: 20/06/2026 11:17:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2402741
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

What concerns me is that those who voted for her in this area knew all of this about her beforehand. It basically means I have to be careful what I say in front of the locals. This is dividing old friendships and even families.

I have friends who are from Atlanta, Georgia, deep the in US South. The wife is white, her husband is Black. They are both anti-Trump and he experienced rampant racism in the US. Yesterday he was saying that he’s unfriended a lot of peers in the past ~10 years because they support Trump, or at least agree with his ideas. He said, as a father of three girls, he cannot understand why someone with daughters can possibly think Trump’s stance is OK. It’s just the tip of the iceberg as far as Trumpism goes, but the same wretched ideas are now pouring from PHONy’s mouth and the public seem to be eating it up, according to the media.

As friendlyjordies said during the week, Poorline’s voters are single-issue voters. Find the issue that matters to them, and you win. In her case, immigration. They’re taking our housing, our jobs, eating the cats and dogs…

I think people vote for Trump because that are like Trump and do what he does or want to be like him and do what he does.

1 in 3 girls experience an attempted or completed rape between 11 and 17 in the US. Usually from their fathers, uncles, grandfathers, close male relatives or family friends.

See National Sexual Violence Resource Center

Link

What the National Sexual Violence Resource Center actually says:

“One in five women in the United States experienced completed or attempted rape during their lifetime.

One in three female victims of completed or attempted rape experienced it for the first time between the ages of 11 and 17”

So the number of US women who experienced completed or attempted rape between the ages of 11 and 17 is one in fifteen.

That’s a terrible number, but to make it even worse by partially quoting figures out of context just gives people an excuse to dismiss everything you write.

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Date: 20/06/2026 11:24:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 2402744
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

Terribly sad.

Folks fighting against each other instead the 1% who are strip mining our planet.

I’m trying not to get involved in fighting about anything. I’d rather to simply go on planting trees.

Planting trees sounds awesome. 🍀

That’s what I’ve done for something like 50 years or more. The forest ypu can see behind the fence is only a small window into a much larger treed area that I’ve planted and maintained since the early 1980’s,

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Date: 20/06/2026 13:31:06
From: ms spock
ID: 2402794
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:

bq. In her speech, Senator Hanson objected to two aspects of modern Australia in particular: The number of people who were born overseas, and the number of people who spoke a language other than English at home.
She also appeared to oppose religious diversity, saying migrants should adopt a “Judeo-Christian” perspective.

She’s gonna be raging at the census results. I’m sure she’s fine with me, having a mother born in the Catholic, white part of Europe…

I’m willing to bet sooner or later she’s going to become suddenly concerned about what’s inside people’s underpants. Transphobia is a popular platform.

The shitty thing about that is, (outside of the bigotry) is women like me, who don’t dress in patriarchal feminine heteronormative ways, get challenged in women’s bathrooms. It’s really annoying.

They come for one group of us, then they come for more.

Mrs V doesn’t get challenged. She has a #2 haircut…

I am so glad. 🐸💚🐸

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Date: 20/06/2026 13:41:37
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2402800
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


Michael V said:

ms spock said:

The shitty thing about that is, (outside of the bigotry) is women like me, who don’t dress in patriarchal feminine heteronormative ways, get challenged in women’s bathrooms. It’s really annoying.

They come for one group of us, then they come for more.

Mrs V doesn’t get challenged. She has a #2 haircut…

I am so glad. 🐸💚🐸

Heteronormative is such a bullshit concept. A friend’s son loved wearing dresses and tutus when he was 3-4. I gave him Mini Me’s Rapunzel costume she grew out of it. His dad wasn’t happy about it, but since he rarely saw his child anyway it was even more moot.

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Date: 20/06/2026 14:23:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2402822
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

sure

Smith considered herself non-political, but with a strong anti-renewables streak (“It’s just this massive, rampant ravaging of our land,” she said of large-scale wind and solar projects).

your locality is called hay, bring it on

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Date: 20/06/2026 14:27:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2402824
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:

ms spock said:

Michael V said:

Mrs V doesn’t get challenged. She has a #2 haircut…

I am so glad. 🐸💚🐸

Heteronormative is such a bullshit concept. A friend’s son loved wearing dresses and tutus when he was 3-4. I gave him Mini Me’s Rapunzel costume she grew out of it. His dad wasn’t happy about it, but since he rarely saw his child anyway it was even more moot.

we mean pink is for girls and blue is for boys right

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Date: 20/06/2026 23:47:08
From: dv
ID: 2402964
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/jun/19/antisemitism-royal-commission-conflation-of-jewish-identity-with-israel-jewish-council-submission-ntwnfb

Conflation of Jewish identity with Israel driving antisemitism, Jewish Council says in submission to royal commission

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Date: 20/06/2026 23:53:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2402968
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/jun/19/antisemitism-royal-commission-conflation-of-jewish-identity-with-israel-jewish-council-submission-ntwnfb

Conflation of Jewish identity with Israel driving antisemitism, Jewish Council says in submission to royal commission

no way surely not

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Date: 21/06/2026 12:54:50
From: ms spock
ID: 2403063
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:

I have friends who are from Atlanta, Georgia, deep the in US South. The wife is white, her husband is Black. They are both anti-Trump and he experienced rampant racism in the US. Yesterday he was saying that he’s unfriended a lot of peers in the past ~10 years because they support Trump, or at least agree with his ideas. He said, as a father of three girls, he cannot understand why someone with daughters can possibly think Trump’s stance is OK. It’s just the tip of the iceberg as far as Trumpism goes, but the same wretched ideas are now pouring from PHONy’s mouth and the public seem to be eating it up, according to the media.

As friendlyjordies said during the week, Poorline’s voters are single-issue voters. Find the issue that matters to them, and you win. In her case, immigration. They’re taking our housing, our jobs, eating the cats and dogs…

I think people vote for Trump because that are like Trump and do what he does or want to be like him and do what he does.

1 in 3 girls experience an attempted or completed rape between 11 and 17 in the US. Usually from their fathers, uncles, grandfathers, close male relatives or family friends.

See National Sexual Violence Resource Center

Link

What the National Sexual Violence Resource Center actually says:

“One in five women in the United States experienced completed or attempted rape during their lifetime.

One in three female victims of completed or attempted rape experienced it for the first time between the ages of 11 and 17”

So the number of US women who experienced completed or attempted rape between the ages of 11 and 17 is one in fifteen.

That’s a terrible number, but to make it even worse by partially quoting figures out of context just gives people an excuse to dismiss everything you write.

I will email them as I can see how you got there. That is very useful that you pointed out that to me.

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Date: 21/06/2026 13:43:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2403085
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ms spock said:

I think people vote for Trump because that are like Trump and do what he does or want to be like him and do what he does.

1 in 3 girls experience an attempted or completed rape between 11 and 17 in the US. Usually from their fathers, uncles, grandfathers, close male relatives or family friends.

See National Sexual Violence Resource Center

Link

What the National Sexual Violence Resource Center actually says:

“One in five women in the United States experienced completed or attempted rape during their lifetime.

One in three female victims of completed or attempted rape experienced it for the first time between the ages of 11 and 17”

So the number of US women who experienced completed or attempted rape between the ages of 11 and 17 is one in fifteen.

That’s a terrible number, but to make it even worse by partially quoting figures out of context just gives people an excuse to dismiss everything you write.

I will email them as I can see how you got there. That is very useful that you pointed out that to me.

Thanks ms spock.

Glad it didn’t come across as condescending.

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Date: 21/06/2026 19:27:45
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2403174
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Once upon a time, the Qld government formed the largest government-owned energy department in the country, Energy Queensland (EQ). Part of that was Yurika, largely responsible for renewable energies across the state.

When LNP was elected, they gutted EQ, canning Yurika completely. Projects were abandoned. Clients were not happy. Some people who worked within Yurika were relocated to other parts of EQ, but many were not.

Now, their EBA states that they can’t be fired or made redundant, so they just sit in an employee pool being paid to do nothing because there’s nothing for them to do, nowhere for them to go.

The government doesn’t like all this money being wasted, so they’ve reinstated Yurika and re-employed everyone sitting in the pool.

Except… clients don’t trust them. Yurika is unstable, they say, why should we trust you guys?

Another notch on the political bedpost for the LNP state government.

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Date: 22/06/2026 07:41:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2403226
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Hey We Still Remember When It Was Hilarious Funny When Real Estate Development In Some Other Country Was All Fucked Up

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-21/troubled-plans-for-sth-bnk-skyscraper/106818926

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Date: 22/06/2026 10:58:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2403259
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

oh hey this could almost fund the whole 0.3% of a nuclear submarine scam that the australian fascists reckon their superior economic management would save

Australian Federal Police have made the country’s largest cocaine bust with a seizure of 2.7 tonnes of the drug in Greater Western Sydney. Police say the drugs with a street value of $816 million were found hidden in an elaborate bunker system at a Londonderry property.

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Date: 22/06/2026 11:01:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 2403260
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

oh hey this could almost fund the whole 0.3% of a nuclear submarine scam that the australian fascists reckon their superior economic management would save

Australian Federal Police have made the country’s largest cocaine bust with a seizure of 2.7 tonnes of the drug in Greater Western Sydney. Police say the drugs with a street value of $816 million were found hidden in an elaborate bunker system at a Londonderry property.

They don’t pay as much for it in the USA.

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Date: 22/06/2026 11:13:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2403262
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

oh hey this could almost fund the whole 0.3% of a nuclear submarine scam that the australian fascists reckon their superior economic management would save

Australian Federal Police have made the country’s largest cocaine bust with a seizure of 2.7 tonnes of the drug in Greater Western Sydney. Police say the drugs with a street value of $816 million were found hidden in an elaborate bunker system at a Londonderry property.

I didn’t even know that Australia had a Londonderry, but turns out it’s just round the corner and over the hill from Hornsby.

And just down the road from Hobart (ville).

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Date: 22/06/2026 11:14:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2403263
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

oh hey this could almost fund the whole 0.3% of a nuclear submarine scam that the australian fascists reckon their superior economic management would save

Australian Federal Police have made the country’s largest cocaine bust with a seizure of 2.7 tonnes of the drug in Greater Western Sydney. Police say the drugs with a street value of $816 million were found hidden in an elaborate bunker system at a Londonderry property.

They don’t pay as much for it in the USA.

maybe the buttock supplying supermodels take a bigger cut

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Date: 22/06/2026 11:53:45
From: Michael V
ID: 2403282
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

oh hey this could almost fund the whole 0.3% of a nuclear submarine scam that the australian fascists reckon their superior economic management would save

Australian Federal Police have made the country’s largest cocaine bust with a seizure of 2.7 tonnes of the drug in Greater Western Sydney. Police say the drugs with a street value of $816 million were found hidden in an elaborate bunker system at a Londonderry property.

I didn’t even know that Australia had a Londonderry, but turns out it’s just round the corner and over the hill from Hornsby.

And just down the road from Hobart (ville).

IIRC, in western Sydney.

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Date: 22/06/2026 13:38:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2403316
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Qld LNP’s apparent racism

URL:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-20/langbroek-remains-silent-over-aboriginal-leadership-changes/106817420

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Date: 22/06/2026 13:40:34
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2403318
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:

Qld LNP’s apparent racism

URL:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-20/langbroek-remains-silent-over-aboriginal-leadership-changes/106817420


PHONy is doing a rally or event of some sort in Western Sydney on Friday. Western Sydney is one of the most multicultural areas in the country.

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Date: 22/06/2026 14:06:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2403327
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Qld LNP’s apparent racism

URL:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-20/langbroek-remains-silent-over-aboriginal-leadership-changes/106817420


PHONy is doing a rally or event of some sort in Western Sydney on Friday. Western Sydney is one of the most multicultural areas in the country.

and they support fascists with a strong stance on morality

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Date: 22/06/2026 15:38:16
From: ms spock
ID: 2403356
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

I’m trying not to get involved in fighting about anything. I’d rather to simply go on planting trees.

Planting trees sounds awesome. 🍀

That’s what I’ve done for something like 50 years or more. The forest ypu can see behind the fence is only a small window into a much larger treed area that I’ve planted and maintained since the early 1980’s,


Wow!
💚💚💚

Saving the planet one tree at a time.

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Date: 22/06/2026 16:02:20
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2403365
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Australia lands biggest-ever defence export deal in $2.5bn radar sale to Canada.

Canada will fork out $2.5bn for a world-leading Australian radar system in what is Australia’s biggest-ever defence export deal, the Albanese government has announced.

Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister Richard Marles unveiled the “historic” agreement on Monday alongside the Canadian secretary charged with buying military gear.

Spruiking it as supporting “a thousand direct and indirect jobs”, Mr Marles said the deal also locked Canberra and Ottawa in as defence industry partners, and Australia would now benefit from major Canadian investments just as Canada had reaped gains from Australian cash.

“Of course, Australia and Canada have always been the very best of friends, but really, with what we have signed today, there is now a very significant strategic dimension to the relationship,” he told reporters at Parliament House, adding that “it builds on the uplifting of the defence and security relationship”.

“Today’s agreement really is a historic moment for Australia’s defence industry, but it is also a historic moment in the bilateral relationship between Australia and Canada.”

The deal came after months of work developing the Over the Horizon Radar (OTHR) system for Canada’s Arctic territory.

The technology, built and used in Australia, can pick up aircraft and ships between up to 3000km from Australia’s northern coastline.

Greeting Mr Marles as a “partner”, Secretary of State for Defence Procurement Stephen Fuhr said Australia and Canada had “stood should to shoulder for generations as the world adjusts to its new strategic and economic realities”.

“I can’t think of a stronger partner to work with more than Australia,” he said.

He said the OTHR would “enhance Canada’s Arctic domain awareness and reinforce Canada’s Arctic sovereignty” – a key security concern, as melting ice in the North Pole opens passages for Russia’s nuclear-armed fleet.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/australia-lands-biggest-ever-defence-export-deal-in-25bn-radar-sale-to-canada-c-22466440

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Date: 22/06/2026 16:57:24
From: ms spock
ID: 2403386
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/jun/19/antisemitism-royal-commission-conflation-of-jewish-identity-with-israel-jewish-council-submission-ntwnfb

Conflation of Jewish identity with Israel driving antisemitism, Jewish Council says in submission to royal commission

Jewish Council of Australia response to the Royal Commission.

Hi , writing to let you know we’ve just published the Jewish Council’s submission to the Royal Commission into Antisemitism and Social Cohesion.

It reflects the voices of over 2,500 Jews in Australia and their allies who see the fight against antisemitism as interconnected to the fight against all forms of racism and oppression. After weighing hundreds of personal accounts, deep policy and legal analysis, and academic antisemitism expertise, some of our recommendations for the Commission include:

Recognise the diversity of the Jewish community, including on Israel and Zionism;

Find that far-right extremism is a primary driver of antisemitism in Australia;
Find that the conflation of Jewish identity with Israel and its violence – a conflation pushed by Israel and its advocates – is actually a driver of antisemitism;

Recommend the rejection of the IHRA working definition and Universities Australia definitions of antisemitism in favour of other definitions or an overlapping consensus approach;

Endorse and fund the Australian Human Rights Commission’s National Anti-Racism Framework; and
Recommend against measures that criminalise Palestinian or pro-Palestinian political expression.

Antisemitism is real, it is rising, and it demands a serious response. But the evidence is clear: the dominant policy response adopted in Australia of punitive laws, the curtailment of civil liberties, and definitions that treat criticism of Israel as antisemitic don’t make Jews safer, they actually make things worse.

Our safety and dignity is inseparable from the safety and dignity of others.
This submission is a distillation of so much of the Council’s work since its founding, two and a half short years ago. I’m extremely proud of it, and I wanted to write to offer my thanks for your support for all of the Council’s engagement with the Commission to date. Together, we have been able to provide a consistent, unequivocal progressive Jewish voice for human rights, civil liberties, and Palestinian liberation.

In hearings, we’re represented by an incredible team of Counsel. We’ve been able to meet massive new reactive media demands, and even employed our first full-time staff member to lead this project.

It’s difficult to overstate how transformative these resources have been for an organisation that was until very recently entirely volunteer run. It’s already making a difference. The Commission has referred to submissions received from Jewish people disputing the IHRA definition and has specifically requested evidence from our members. (It’s also noteworthy that, after our legal team challenged the IHRA in Court, the ABC and SBS both informed the federal government that they would not be adopting it.)

This work is only becoming more salient. The resurgent Australian far-right is a hotbed of antisemitism even as it weaponises

Jewish grief to legitimise attacks on migrant communities and religious minorities.

Netanyahu has committed over USD $730 million to international propaganda in his March budget. And as the Royal Commission continues, groups in Australia are escalating attempts to misrepresent the Jewish community as monolithically pro-Israel.

There is so much to do! We’re currently developing a strategy to scale up and effectively counter these converging threats. But for now, we remain focused on the Commission. The next round of hearings kick off in just over a week and will focus on the online environment and the media.

We know pro-Israel groups will argue that the media is bias against Israel, and for the media to stop reporting on Israel’s atrocities. We’ll be doing all we can to protect robust political discourse and honest reporting of Israel’s atrocities (especially by our public broadcasters) against antisemitism smears. We’ll keep you updated.

At 80 pages I don’t expect you to read it in full (although I know many of you definitely will), but if you want to check out the submission you can do so on our website.

In solidarity,
Sarah

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Date: 22/06/2026 17:06:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 2403391
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

Planting trees sounds awesome. 🍀

That’s what I’ve done for something like 50 years or more. The forest ypu can see behind the fence is only a small window into a much larger treed area that I’ve planted and maintained since the early 1980’s,


Wow!
💚💚💚

Saving the planet one tree at a time.

Still planting.

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Date: 22/06/2026 17:12:32
From: Ian
ID: 2403394
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Exclusive new Capital Brief/DemosAU polling shows the Coalition’s primary vote has slumped five percentage points in just a month to 18%, raising fresh questions about Taylor’s ability to turn around its fortunes.

The poll also suggests the return of conservative former prime minister Tony Abbott, recently elected Liberal president, could fail to arrest the decline.

“The Coalition is in trouble; the closer they get to One Nation, they either alienate people who don’t like One Nation or give the green light to support them,” DemosAU head of research George Hasanakos says.

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Date: 22/06/2026 17:15:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 2403395
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Ian said:


Exclusive new Capital Brief/DemosAU polling shows the Coalition’s primary vote has slumped five percentage points in just a month to 18%, raising fresh questions about Taylor’s ability to turn around its fortunes.

The poll also suggests the return of conservative former prime minister Tony Abbott, recently elected Liberal president, could fail to arrest the decline.

“The Coalition is in trouble; the closer they get to One Nation, they either alienate people who don’t like One Nation or give the green light to support them,” DemosAU head of research George Hasanakos says.

Tony couldn’t run the party to win an election the last time.
What makes him better at it now?

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Date: 22/06/2026 17:24:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2403398
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Ian said:

Exclusive new Capital Brief/DemosAU polling shows the Coalition’s primary vote has slumped five percentage points in just a month to 18%, raising fresh questions about Taylor’s ability to turn around its fortunes.

The poll also suggests the return of conservative former prime minister Tony Abbott, recently elected Liberal president, could fail to arrest the decline.

“The Coalition is in trouble; the closer they get to One Nation, they either alienate people who don’t like One Nation or give the green light to support them,” DemosAU head of research George Hasanakos says.

Tony couldn’t run the party to win an election the last time.
What makes him better at it now?

Nothing.

He’s on a Trump-like mission of ‘revenge’ against all those who (actually, or much more likely, in his imagination) ‘stabbed him in the back’ all those years ago.

It’s been his goal for all that time.

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Date: 22/06/2026 17:46:25
From: Ian
ID: 2403416
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Ian said:

Exclusive new Capital Brief/DemosAU polling shows the Coalition’s primary vote has slumped five percentage points in just a month to 18%, raising fresh questions about Taylor’s ability to turn around its fortunes.

The poll also suggests the return of conservative former prime minister Tony Abbott, recently elected Liberal president, could fail to arrest the decline.

“The Coalition is in trouble; the closer they get to One Nation, they either alienate people who don’t like One Nation or give the green light to support them,” DemosAU head of research George Hasanakos says.

Tony couldn’t run the party to win an election the last time.
What makes him better at it now?

I think that’s more of a poke at Anus… paywalled article

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Date: 22/06/2026 19:43:07
From: ms spock
ID: 2403466
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


ms spock said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What the National Sexual Violence Resource Center actually says:

“One in five women in the United States experienced completed or attempted rape during their lifetime.

One in three female victims of completed or attempted rape experienced it for the first time between the ages of 11 and 17”

So the number of US women who experienced completed or attempted rape between the ages of 11 and 17 is one in fifteen.

That’s a terrible number, but to make it even worse by partially quoting figures out of context just gives people an excuse to dismiss everything you write.

I will email them as I can see how you got there. That is very useful that you pointed out that to me.

Thanks ms spock.

Glad it didn’t come across as condescending.

I appreciate the responses in good faith.

You have the courage to engage wet the topic, itself.

And you paid close attention. And other folks would read it your way.

I didn’t email today but I will this or next week.

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Date: 22/06/2026 19:50:46
From: ms spock
ID: 2403468
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ms spock said:

I will email them as I can see how you got there. That is very useful that you pointed out that to me.

Thanks ms spock.

Glad it didn’t come across as condescending.

I appreciate the responses in good faith.

You have the courage to engage wet the topic, itself.

And you paid close attention. And other folks would read it your way.

I didn’t email today but I will this or next week.

wet = with

Sorry for all my typos I am usually on my laptop or hard drive. I make so many typos on my mobile.

I fill up the VBT as well. When I get my hard drive I can condense my answers.

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Date: 22/06/2026 23:28:02
From: dv
ID: 2403519
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Without Googling or Binging etc, have a go at guessing what this headline and lede are about.

Horror number proves Aussie downfall has begun
For the first time since COVID and only the third time on record, Australia has hit a grim milestone, with fears now growing over what happens next.

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Date: 22/06/2026 23:41:23
From: party_pants
ID: 2403520
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Without Googling or Binging etc, have a go at guessing what this headline and lede are about.

Horror number proves Aussie downfall has begun
For the first time since COVID and only the third time on record, Australia has hit a grim milestone, with fears now growing over what happens next.

Genuine guess without internet searching ..

low birth rates

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Date: 22/06/2026 23:54:02
From: dv
ID: 2403521
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


dv said:

Without Googling or Binging etc, have a go at guessing what this headline and lede are about.

Horror number proves Aussie downfall has begun
For the first time since COVID and only the third time on record, Australia has hit a grim milestone, with fears now growing over what happens next.

Genuine guess without internet searching ..

low birth rates

It ain’t that

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Date: 23/06/2026 00:09:51
From: party_pants
ID: 2403525
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

Without Googling or Binging etc, have a go at guessing what this headline and lede are about.

Horror number proves Aussie downfall has begun
For the first time since COVID and only the third time on record, Australia has hit a grim milestone, with fears now growing over what happens next.

Genuine guess without internet searching ..

low birth rates

It ain’t that

well, I’m going to storm off to bed in a huff then :P

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Date: 23/06/2026 00:16:12
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2403527
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Without Googling or Binging etc, have a go at guessing what this headline and lede are about.

Horror number proves Aussie downfall has begun
For the first time since COVID and only the third time on record, Australia has hit a grim milestone, with fears now growing over what happens next.

Rates of TB infection are rising

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Date: 23/06/2026 01:01:52
From: btm
ID: 2403528
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

AussieDJ said:


dv said:

Without Googling or Binging etc, have a go at guessing what this headline and lede are about.

Horror number proves Aussie downfall has begun
For the first time since COVID and only the third time on record, Australia has hit a grim milestone, with fears now growing over what happens next.

Rates of TB infection are rising

My first thought would be something like vaccination rates dropping, but given the fact that you’ve asked here it’ll be something trivial like house prices dropping slightly.

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Date: 23/06/2026 01:12:23
From: dv
ID: 2403529
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

btm said:


AussieDJ said:

dv said:

Without Googling or Binging etc, have a go at guessing what this headline and lede are about.

Horror number proves Aussie downfall has begun
For the first time since COVID and only the third time on record, Australia has hit a grim milestone, with fears now growing over what happens next.

Rates of TB infection are rising

My first thought would be something like vaccination rates dropping, but given the fact that you’ve asked here it’ll be something trivial like house prices dropping slightly.

Excellent work, Holmes.

https://thenightly.com.au/lifestyle/property/real-estate-capital-city-auction-clearance-rates-fall-below-50-per-cent-for-the-first-time-since-covid-c-22465030

A senior Labor Cabinet minister has hailed the worst auction clearance rates since COVID as a good thing – despite them falling below 50 per cent for only the third time since records began as the Government cracks down on negative gearing and capital gains tax concessions.

The combined weekend capital city auction clearance rate for the week ending on June 21 fell to 47.4 per cent, preliminary Cotality data showed.

This marked the first time since the start of COVID in April 2020 that auction clearance rates had fallen below 50 per cent, with the weekend result down from 54 per cent during the previous week and well below the 65.3 per cent level of a year ago

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Date: 23/06/2026 04:03:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 2403532
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

For whom is that a disaster?

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Date: 23/06/2026 07:59:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2403547
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


dv said:

Without Googling or Binging etc, have a go at guessing what this headline and lede are about.

Horror number proves Aussie downfall has begun
For the first time since COVID and only the third time on record, Australia has hit a grim milestone, with fears now growing over what happens next.

Genuine guess without internet searching ..

low birth rates

That was my non-binged guess as well.

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Date: 23/06/2026 08:47:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2403565
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:

For whom is that a disaster?

for the important people, the ones owning multiple properties that might drop

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Date: 23/06/2026 08:50:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 2403568
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

For whom is that a disaster?

for the important people, the ones owning multiple properties that might drop

There is no trickle down. Isn’t it time we stopped the trickle up?

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Date: 23/06/2026 08:51:43
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2403572
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


For whom is that a disaster?

People who are mortgaged to the hilt and now have negative equity. Only really a short-term problem if they can still make their mortgage payments.

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Date: 23/06/2026 08:52:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2403573
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

For whom is that a disaster?

for the important people, the ones owning multiple properties that might drop

There is no trickle down. Isn’t it time we stopped the trickle up?

confidence trickle

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Date: 23/06/2026 11:56:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2403645
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

communism

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-23/nsw-state-budget-2026-preview/106827942

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Date: 23/06/2026 16:51:25
From: dv
ID: 2403720
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-23/christian-brothers-asset-sale-abuse-compensation/106830364

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Date: 23/06/2026 17:03:46
From: ms spock
ID: 2403732
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-23/christian-brothers-asset-sale-abuse-compensation/106830364

🤬🤬🤬🤬

How will folks heal and great treatment if they don’t get enough money?

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Date: 23/06/2026 22:05:05
From: dv
ID: 2403832
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://x.com/i/status/2068988521063575828

Pauline Hanson sets a 1 year deadline for five-year-old boys and girls to lodge sexual assault allegations

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Date: 23/06/2026 22:32:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2403837
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://x.com/i/status/2068988521063575828

Pauline Hanson sets a 1 year deadline for five-year-old boys and girls to lodge sexual assault allegations

Poisonous person.

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Date: 24/06/2026 08:23:15
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2403862
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Millions of Australian Citizens affected: Pauline Hanson’s One Nation to target all Australian Citizens who were born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas if party wins government
Citizenship
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson has questioned the existence of Australian citizens born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas. One Nation’s rhetoric could signal a potential move to a two or three-tiered citizenship system or mass deportations under a Hanson Government.

“In the 2021 census, more than half of Australian residents, 51.5% were born overseas or had one parent born overseas. 51.5 per cent. Is that supported by the Australian electorate? Is that what Australia wants?” Senator Hanson said

“The comparable figure for the United States is 14 per cent. Do Australians feel that the Nation is losing its identity along with its values? We all know the answer to that” the far-right Senator added

Pauline Hanson did not outline what sort of sanctions a Hanson Government would apply to these citizens in order to reduce that percentage and restore Australia’s “identity and values”.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AusVisa/comments/1ucx8hz/millions_of_australian_citizens_affected_pauline/

That includes me – I’m also a New Zealand citizen thanks to my mother being born in NZ.

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Date: 24/06/2026 08:41:01
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2403868
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Spiny Norman said:


Millions of Australian Citizens affected: Pauline Hanson’s One Nation to target all Australian Citizens who were born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas if party wins government
Citizenship
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson has questioned the existence of Australian citizens born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas. One Nation’s rhetoric could signal a potential move to a two or three-tiered citizenship system or mass deportations under a Hanson Government.

“In the 2021 census, more than half of Australian residents, 51.5% were born overseas or had one parent born overseas. 51.5 per cent. Is that supported by the Australian electorate? Is that what Australia wants?” Senator Hanson said

“The comparable figure for the United States is 14 per cent. Do Australians feel that the Nation is losing its identity along with its values? We all know the answer to that” the far-right Senator added

Pauline Hanson did not outline what sort of sanctions a Hanson Government would apply to these citizens in order to reduce that percentage and restore Australia’s “identity and values”.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AusVisa/comments/1ucx8hz/millions_of_australian_citizens_affected_pauline/

That includes me – I’m also a New Zealand citizen thanks to my mother being born in NZ.

I hope that news is extended far and wide to the 52% of voters who will not be that happy about it.

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Date: 24/06/2026 08:42:50
From: Michael V
ID: 2403869
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Spiny Norman said:


Millions of Australian Citizens affected: Pauline Hanson’s One Nation to target all Australian Citizens who were born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas if party wins government
Citizenship
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson has questioned the existence of Australian citizens born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas. One Nation’s rhetoric could signal a potential move to a two or three-tiered citizenship system or mass deportations under a Hanson Government.

“In the 2021 census, more than half of Australian residents, 51.5% were born overseas or had one parent born overseas. 51.5 per cent. Is that supported by the Australian electorate? Is that what Australia wants?” Senator Hanson said

“The comparable figure for the United States is 14 per cent. Do Australians feel that the Nation is losing its identity along with its values? We all know the answer to that” the far-right Senator added

Pauline Hanson did not outline what sort of sanctions a Hanson Government would apply to these citizens in order to reduce that percentage and restore Australia’s “identity and values”.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AusVisa/comments/1ucx8hz/millions_of_australian_citizens_affected_pauline/

That includes me – I’m also a New Zealand citizen thanks to my mother being born in NZ.

Gourd!

My mother emigrated as a teenager from the UK in (IIRC) 1947. Where are they going to deport me to?

I suppose they’ll take my age pension off me too.

PH can get stuffed.

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Date: 24/06/2026 08:52:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 2403874
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Spiny Norman said:


Millions of Australian Citizens affected: Pauline Hanson’s One Nation to target all Australian Citizens who were born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas if party wins government
Citizenship
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson has questioned the existence of Australian citizens born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas. One Nation’s rhetoric could signal a potential move to a two or three-tiered citizenship system or mass deportations under a Hanson Government.

“In the 2021 census, more than half of Australian residents, 51.5% were born overseas or had one parent born overseas. 51.5 per cent. Is that supported by the Australian electorate? Is that what Australia wants?” Senator Hanson said

“The comparable figure for the United States is 14 per cent. Do Australians feel that the Nation is losing its identity along with its values? We all know the answer to that” the far-right Senator added

Pauline Hanson did not outline what sort of sanctions a Hanson Government would apply to these citizens in order to reduce that percentage and restore Australia’s “identity and values”.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AusVisa/comments/1ucx8hz/millions_of_australian_citizens_affected_pauline/

That includes me – I’m also a New Zealand citizen thanks to my mother being born in NZ.

See what sniffing deep fry oil does to the brain?

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Date: 24/06/2026 09:42:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2403888
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


Spiny Norman said:

Millions of Australian Citizens affected: Pauline Hanson’s One Nation to target all Australian Citizens who were born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas if party wins government
Citizenship
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson has questioned the existence of Australian citizens born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas. One Nation’s rhetoric could signal a potential move to a two or three-tiered citizenship system or mass deportations under a Hanson Government.

“In the 2021 census, more than half of Australian residents, 51.5% were born overseas or had one parent born overseas. 51.5 per cent. Is that supported by the Australian electorate? Is that what Australia wants?” Senator Hanson said

“The comparable figure for the United States is 14 per cent. Do Australians feel that the Nation is losing its identity along with its values? We all know the answer to that” the far-right Senator added

Pauline Hanson did not outline what sort of sanctions a Hanson Government would apply to these citizens in order to reduce that percentage and restore Australia’s “identity and values”.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AusVisa/comments/1ucx8hz/millions_of_australian_citizens_affected_pauline/

That includes me – I’m also a New Zealand citizen thanks to my mother being born in NZ.

I hope that news is extended far and wide to the 52% of voters who will not be that happy about it.

I’ve warned Mrs S that she’s on borrowed time here.

Her mum born in Yorkshire, her dad from Sweden. Hasn’t got a chance.

Trying to get her to enrol on Duolingo, her knowledge of det svenska språket is pretty rusty.

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Date: 24/06/2026 09:49:04
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2403896
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Spiny Norman said:

Millions of Australian Citizens affected: Pauline Hanson’s One Nation to target all Australian Citizens who were born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas if party wins government
Citizenship
One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson has questioned the existence of Australian citizens born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas. One Nation’s rhetoric could signal a potential move to a two or three-tiered citizenship system or mass deportations under a Hanson Government.

“In the 2021 census, more than half of Australian residents, 51.5% were born overseas or had one parent born overseas. 51.5 per cent. Is that supported by the Australian electorate? Is that what Australia wants?” Senator Hanson said

“The comparable figure for the United States is 14 per cent. Do Australians feel that the Nation is losing its identity along with its values? We all know the answer to that” the far-right Senator added

Pauline Hanson did not outline what sort of sanctions a Hanson Government would apply to these citizens in order to reduce that percentage and restore Australia’s “identity and values”.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AusVisa/comments/1ucx8hz/millions_of_australian_citizens_affected_pauline/

That includes me – I’m also a New Zealand citizen thanks to my mother being born in NZ.

I hope that news is extended far and wide to the 52% of voters who will not be that happy about it.

I’ve warned Mrs S that she’s on borrowed time here.

Her mum born in Yorkshire, her dad from Sweden. Hasn’t got a chance.

Trying to get her to enrol on Duolingo, her knowledge of det svenska språket is pretty rusty.

Mrs Rev D was born in NZ so at least I can just hop across the water to our new home when we are kicked out.

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Date: 24/06/2026 13:51:51
From: dv
ID: 2404015
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-24/karl-stefanovic-tommy-robinson-podcast-interview-taken-offline/106834832

How long has Karl been like this?

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Date: 24/06/2026 15:19:08
From: ms spock
ID: 2404050
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://x.com/i/status/2068988521063575828

Pauline Hanson sets a 1 year deadline for five-year-old boys and girls to lodge sexual assault allegations

Her son had issues in this area.

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Date: 24/06/2026 15:42:07
From: ms spock
ID: 2404056
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael West and the genocide in Palestine.

Link

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Date: 24/06/2026 15:53:59
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2404061
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:

Michael West and the genocide in Palestine.

Link

:(

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Date: 24/06/2026 15:55:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2404062
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

fk communist Labor are good economic managers

Headline inflation has eased to an annual rate of 4 per cent in May, down from 4.2 per cent in April, according to the latest ABS data. The better-than-predicted figure comes after sharp falls in petrol and diesel prices. The Australian share market has started its day higher despite a major sell-off across US tech, AI and semiconductor stocks, which resulted in steep losses on Wall Street.

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Date: 24/06/2026 19:28:20
From: buffy
ID: 2404136
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Listening to the Senate on the radio coming home in the car. Michaelia Cash has stopped being strident. And seems to have changed her accent a bit. Almost didn’t recognize her voice, and I’m usually good at voices.

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Date: 24/06/2026 19:58:54
From: dv
ID: 2404147
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 24/06/2026 20:07:35
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2404151
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The former Liberal heavyweight Teena McQueen is being remembered for her contribution to the party despite her defection to One Nation.

McQueen, who served as the federal Liberal party vice-president from 2017 to 2023, died on Wednesday after battling severe sickness.

She was a long-serving member of the Liberal party before defecting to One Nation in May.

Known for conservative commentary, she regularly appeared on Sky News and spent time with Gina Rinehart at US president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/24/former-liberal-vice-president-teena-mcqueen-dies-after-severe-sickness-just-weeks-after-defecting-to-one-nation

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Date: 24/06/2026 20:18:20
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2404154
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


The former Liberal heavyweight Teena McQueen is being remembered for her contribution to the party despite her defection to One Nation.

McQueen, who served as the federal Liberal party vice-president from 2017 to 2023, died on Wednesday after battling severe sickness.

She was a long-serving member of the Liberal party before defecting to One Nation in May.

Known for conservative commentary, she regularly appeared on Sky News and spent time with Gina Rinehart at US president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/24/former-liberal-vice-president-teena-mcqueen-dies-after-severe-sickness-just-weeks-after-defecting-to-one-nation

Gina probably ate her flesh as well as her soul.

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Date: 24/06/2026 20:21:07
From: party_pants
ID: 2404156
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


The former Liberal heavyweight Teena McQueen is being remembered for her contribution to the party despite her defection to One Nation.

McQueen, who served as the federal Liberal party vice-president from 2017 to 2023, died on Wednesday after battling severe sickness.

She was a long-serving member of the Liberal party before defecting to One Nation in May.

Known for conservative commentary, she regularly appeared on Sky News and spent time with Gina Rinehart at US president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/24/former-liberal-vice-president-teena-mcqueen-dies-after-severe-sickness-just-weeks-after-defecting-to-one-nation

NHOH

someone had to say it :)

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Date: 24/06/2026 20:37:35
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2404162
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Divine Angel said:

The former Liberal heavyweight Teena McQueen is being remembered for her contribution to the party despite her defection to One Nation.

McQueen, who served as the federal Liberal party vice-president from 2017 to 2023, died on Wednesday after battling severe sickness.

She was a long-serving member of the Liberal party before defecting to One Nation in May.

Known for conservative commentary, she regularly appeared on Sky News and spent time with Gina Rinehart at US president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/24/former-liberal-vice-president-teena-mcqueen-dies-after-severe-sickness-just-weeks-after-defecting-to-one-nation

NHOH

someone had to say it :)

“Regularly appeared on Sky News” = NHOHE

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Date: 24/06/2026 22:17:57
From: dv
ID: 2404190
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/24/australia-liberal-party-angus-taylor-multiculturalism-comments

Liberals dumbfounded by Angus Taylor’s multiculturalism comments: ‘Embrace the reality of modern Australia’
Party colleagues concerned opposition leader was missing an opportunity to differentiate Coalition from One Nation

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Date: 24/06/2026 22:38:46
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2404191
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Nine is negotiating terms for longtime Today host Karl Stefanovic to leave the network following his incendiary podcast interview with far-right British activist Tommy Robinson, potentially defusing a major advertiser boycott.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/today-show-host-karl-stefanovic-to-leave-nine-after-tommy-robinson-podcast-fallout-20260624-p609j0.html

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Date: 24/06/2026 22:46:39
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2404192
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

AFAICT there are at least 3 Muslim Socceroos. Someone better not tell Pauline.

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Date: 24/06/2026 23:04:20
From: party_pants
ID: 2404197
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


AFAICT there are at least 3 Muslim Socceroos. Someone better not tell Pauline.

Or conversely, maybe some should

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Date: 24/06/2026 23:05:20
From: party_pants
ID: 2404198
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

AFAICT there are at least 3 Muslim Socceroos. Someone better not tell Pauline.

Or conversely, maybe someone should

corrected

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Date: 25/06/2026 06:26:26
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2404209
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Witty Rejoinder said:


Nine is negotiating terms for longtime Today host Karl Stefanovic to leave the network following his incendiary podcast interview with far-right British activist Tommy Robinson, potentially defusing a major advertiser boycott.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/today-show-host-karl-stefanovic-to-leave-nine-after-tommy-robinson-podcast-fallout-20260624-p609j0.html

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Date: 25/06/2026 06:40:24
From: buffy
ID: 2404211
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/24/australia-liberal-party-angus-taylor-multiculturalism-comments

Liberals dumbfounded by Angus Taylor’s multiculturalism comments: ‘Embrace the reality of modern Australia’
Party colleagues concerned opposition leader was missing an opportunity to differentiate Coalition from One Nation

Well, they put Tony in charge of the party. It was their choice.

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Date: 25/06/2026 08:17:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 2404216
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


Divine Angel said:

The former Liberal heavyweight Teena McQueen is being remembered for her contribution to the party despite her defection to One Nation.

McQueen, who served as the federal Liberal party vice-president from 2017 to 2023, died on Wednesday after battling severe sickness.

She was a long-serving member of the Liberal party before defecting to One Nation in May.

Known for conservative commentary, she regularly appeared on Sky News and spent time with Gina Rinehart at US president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/24/former-liberal-vice-president-teena-mcqueen-dies-after-severe-sickness-just-weeks-after-defecting-to-one-nation

NHOH

someone had to say it :)

See how toxic one nation is.

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Date: 25/06/2026 08:20:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 2404218
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

The former Liberal heavyweight Teena McQueen is being remembered for her contribution to the party despite her defection to One Nation.

McQueen, who served as the federal Liberal party vice-president from 2017 to 2023, died on Wednesday after battling severe sickness.

She was a long-serving member of the Liberal party before defecting to One Nation in May.

Known for conservative commentary, she regularly appeared on Sky News and spent time with Gina Rinehart at US president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/24/former-liberal-vice-president-teena-mcqueen-dies-after-severe-sickness-just-weeks-after-defecting-to-one-nation

NHOH

someone had to say it :)

“Regularly appeared on Sky News” = NHOHE

Just image life after Pauline gets in…. No ABC or SBS. only Sky News.

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Date: 25/06/2026 10:10:19
From: ms spock
ID: 2404253
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Nine is negotiating terms for longtime Today host Karl Stefanovic to leave the network following his incendiary podcast interview with far-right British activist Tommy Robinson, potentially defusing a major advertiser boycott.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/today-show-host-karl-stefanovic-to-leave-nine-after-tommy-robinson-podcast-fallout-20260624-p609j0.html


The lettuce.

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Date: 25/06/2026 10:12:41
From: Cymek
ID: 2404260
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


Divine Angel said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Nine is negotiating terms for longtime Today host Karl Stefanovic to leave the network following his incendiary podcast interview with far-right British activist Tommy Robinson, potentially defusing a major advertiser boycott.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/today-show-host-karl-stefanovic-to-leave-nine-after-tommy-robinson-podcast-fallout-20260624-p609j0.html


The lettuce.

Can’t do Agro as he died

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Date: 25/06/2026 10:16:44
From: Cymek
ID: 2404269
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

I can’t say I’ve ever listened to him but this Karl is a turd I assume and was called out for acting like one and now is sulking ?

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Date: 25/06/2026 10:18:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 2404273
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:


The lettuce.

Can’t do Agro as he died

Even half a lettuce has more brainspace.

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Date: 25/06/2026 10:25:08
From: Woodie
ID: 2404288
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


I can’t say I’ve ever listened to him but this Karl is a turd I assume and was called out for acting like one and now is sulking ?

It’s not the first time, IIRC.

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Date: 25/06/2026 10:36:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2404294
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

The former Liberal heavyweight Teena McQueen is being remembered for her contribution to the party despite her defection to One Nation.

McQueen, who served as the federal Liberal party vice-president from 2017 to 2023, died on Wednesday after battling severe sickness.

She was a long-serving member of the Liberal party before defecting to One Nation in May.

Known for conservative commentary, she regularly appeared on Sky News and spent time with Gina Rinehart at US president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/24/former-liberal-vice-president-teena-mcqueen-dies-after-severe-sickness-just-weeks-after-defecting-to-one-nation

NHOH

someone had to say it :)

See how toxic one nation is.

But beneath the comedy is a serious civic problem: the replacement of public truth with narrative management.

Well written. Made me laugh. Thanks for posting.

:)

this serious civic problem: the replacement of public truth with narrative management seems like a recent development which has not been an issue prior to 2015 and we believe it will be soon and quickly remedied with a midterm popularity contest

bring it

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-25/multiculturalism-monoculture-pauline-hanson-angus-taylor-nestory/106836992

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Date: 25/06/2026 10:39:16
From: Cymek
ID: 2404297
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Would people prefer the truth from government even its admitting we have very little control over the situation or a lie pretending they have far more control than they do.
Would government themselves cop a telling off rather than admit they can’t do anything

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Date: 25/06/2026 10:41:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2404301
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:

Would people prefer the truth from government even its admitting we have very little control over the situation or a lie pretending they have far more control than they do.
Would government themselves cop a telling off rather than admit they can’t do anything

no, because governance is decided by popularity, so how would that work

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Date: 25/06/2026 12:02:27
From: ms spock
ID: 2404365
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:


The lettuce.

Can’t do Agro as he died

I didn’t know about aggro.

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Date: 25/06/2026 12:31:08
From: ms spock
ID: 2404383
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Cymek said:


Would people prefer the truth from government even its admitting we have very little control over the situation or a lie pretending they have far more control than they do.
Would government themselves cop a telling off rather than admit they can’t do anything

I would prefer the truth. Caitlin Johnson wrote an article recently about how Albo couldn’t help or stop things that are going on. Even if he wanted to.

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Date: 25/06/2026 13:20:46
From: dv
ID: 2404406
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/24/one-nation-pauline-hanson-fuel-rebates-stance-ntwnfb

Bless

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Date: 25/06/2026 14:03:17
From: Michael V
ID: 2404422
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/24/one-nation-pauline-hanson-fuel-rebates-stance-ntwnfb

Bless

Good-oh.

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Date: 25/06/2026 15:19:52
From: dv
ID: 2404440
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Allegra Spender and Zali Steggall are forming a new political party, Community Strong Australia.

Members would retain a free vote but would “collaborate” on policy.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-25/allegra-spender-and-zali-steggall-form-centrist-party/106839026

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Date: 25/06/2026 15:32:55
From: Michael V
ID: 2404444
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Allegra Spender and Zali Steggall are forming a new political party, Community Strong Australia.

Members would retain a free vote but would “collaborate” on policy.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-25/allegra-spender-and-zali-steggall-form-centrist-party/106839026

Good.

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Date: 25/06/2026 17:09:27
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2404493
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 25/06/2026 17:15:40
From: Arts
ID: 2404494
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:



except the change from Young and free to one and free was to include indigenous Australians (culturally not young) with the ‘young’ eg the immigrants, the rest of us… including Pauline (although I have not looked into her family tree)

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Date: 25/06/2026 17:25:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2404501
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Arts said:


Divine Angel said:


except the change from Young and free to one and free was to include indigenous Australians (culturally not young) with the ‘young’ eg the immigrants, the rest of us… including Pauline (although I have not looked into her family tree)

^

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Date: 25/06/2026 17:34:22
From: Cymek
ID: 2404506
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Arts said:


Divine Angel said:


except the change from Young and free to one and free was to include indigenous Australians (culturally not young) with the ‘young’ eg the immigrants, the rest of us… including Pauline (although I have not looked into her family tree)

We are all humans pretty sure so fit into the one

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Date: 25/06/2026 17:48:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2404513
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:


except the change from Young and free to one and free was to include indigenous Australians (culturally not young) with the ‘young’ eg the immigrants, the rest of us… including Pauline (although I have not looked into her family tree)

^

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Date: 25/06/2026 18:12:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 2404517
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:



Ah fuck!

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Date: 25/06/2026 19:46:14
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2404534
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Pauline Hanson’s mum.
Seems to be a major factor in her policies.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAussie/comments/1uf53u8/lnp_version_2026/

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Date: 25/06/2026 19:55:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 2404537
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Spiny Norman said:


Pauline Hanson’s mum.
Seems to be a major factor in her policies.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAussie/comments/1uf53u8/lnp_version_2026/

I do remember the “Yellow Peril”.

Didn’t exist in our home.

Dad said, “Can’t afforrd to be racist, you’ve got most of them in you”.

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Date: 25/06/2026 20:23:01
From: Ian
ID: 2404544
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Spiny Norman said:

Pauline Hanson’s mum.
Seems to be a major factor in her policies.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAussie/comments/1uf53u8/lnp_version_2026/

I do remember the “Yellow Peril”.

Didn’t exist in our home.

Used to reside in my shed.

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Date: 25/06/2026 20:27:54
From: Ian
ID: 2404545
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Ian said:


roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

Pauline Hanson’s mum.
Seems to be a major factor in her policies.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAussie/comments/1uf53u8/lnp_version_2026/

I do remember the “Yellow Peril”.

Didn’t exist in our home.

Used to reside in my shed.

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Date: 25/06/2026 20:31:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 2404547
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Ian said:


roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

Pauline Hanson’s mum.
Seems to be a major factor in her policies.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAussie/comments/1uf53u8/lnp_version_2026/

I do remember the “Yellow Peril”.

Didn’t exist in our home.

Used to reside in my shed.

Had a powerful engine too?

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Date: 25/06/2026 20:32:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 2404548
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Ian said:


Ian said:

roughbarked said:

I do remember the “Yellow Peril”.

Didn’t exist in our home.

Used to reside in my shed.


Aha.

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Date: 26/06/2026 14:35:49
From: dv
ID: 2404798
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Karl Stefanovic to leave Nine immediately after network axes multimillion-dollar contract
Story by Bevan Shields • 5h

©Sydney Morning Herald
Karl Stefanovic will leave Nine “immediately” after the network struck a deal to axe his lucrative contract amid the fallout from a disastrous podcast interview with far-right British activist Tommy Robinson.

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Date: 26/06/2026 18:17:52
From: Ian
ID: 2404876
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 26/06/2026 18:30:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2404878
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Ian said:



So I guess Zali is Zali Stegal, and I recognise Pauline, and maybe Barnaby, but who is the other woman on the left?

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Date: 26/06/2026 18:36:21
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2404881
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


Ian said:


So I guess Zali is Zali Stegal, and I recognise Pauline, and maybe Barnaby, but who is the other woman on the left?

Does research

Monique Ryan maybe?

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Date: 26/06/2026 18:36:48
From: party_pants
ID: 2404882
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


Ian said:


So I guess Zali is Zali Stegal, and I recognise Pauline, and maybe Barnaby, but who is the other woman on the left?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-25/allegra-spender-and-zali-steggall-form-centrist-party/106839026

lunk

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Date: 26/06/2026 18:40:34
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2404884
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:


So I guess Zali is Zali Stegal, and I recognise Pauline, and maybe Barnaby, but who is the other woman on the left?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-25/allegra-spender-and-zali-steggall-form-centrist-party/106839026

lunk

Ah, that was the other one I thought a possibility.

But in the TATE picture she doesn’t have a naked ear.

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Date: 26/06/2026 18:41:33
From: party_pants
ID: 2404885
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:


So I guess Zali is Zali Stegal, and I recognise Pauline, and maybe Barnaby, but who is the other woman on the left?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-25/allegra-spender-and-zali-steggall-form-centrist-party/106839026

lunk

I am following this development with great interest. I don’t think they could win government in their own right, but they could split the right-wing vote into a moderate centrist/centre-right party versus the far-right One Nation grouping, and destroy the Liberal party who will be stuck in the no-man’s land in between. Might even get a few of the Liberal wets to defect.

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Date: 26/06/2026 18:44:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2404887
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So I guess Zali is Zali Stegal, and I recognise Pauline, and maybe Barnaby, but who is the other woman on the left?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-25/allegra-spender-and-zali-steggall-form-centrist-party/106839026

lunk

Ah, that was the other one I thought a possibility.

But in the TATE picture she doesn’t have a naked ear.

we were pretty happy with this communism here

Asked why the party had no leader, Ms Steggall said that this was “a media construct of always thinking about leadership and power”.

1000000000000000000000%

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Date: 26/06/2026 18:56:32
From: Woodie
ID: 2404893
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

party_pants said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So I guess Zali is Zali Stegal, and I recognise Pauline, and maybe Barnaby, but who is the other woman on the left?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-25/allegra-spender-and-zali-steggall-form-centrist-party/106839026

lunk

I am following this development with great interest. I don’t think they could win government in their own right, but they could split the right-wing vote into a moderate centrist/centre-right party versus the far-right One Nation grouping, and destroy the Liberal party who will be stuck in the no-man’s land in between. Might even get a few of the Liberal wets to defect.

Proberlee gets additional electoral funding having a registered party?

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Date: 26/06/2026 18:59:57
From: party_pants
ID: 2404894
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Woodie said:


party_pants said:

party_pants said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-25/allegra-spender-and-zali-steggall-form-centrist-party/106839026

lunk

I am following this development with great interest. I don’t think they could win government in their own right, but they could split the right-wing vote into a moderate centrist/centre-right party versus the far-right One Nation grouping, and destroy the Liberal party who will be stuck in the no-man’s land in between. Might even get a few of the Liberal wets to defect.

Proberlee gets additional electoral funding having a registered party?

Possibly.

Maybe also a tinge of frustration and realpolitik to know that if you want to make a difference you need to be part of a bloc. Doing everything on your own and negotiating on each individual issue is hard work.

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Date: 26/06/2026 19:04:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2404895
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

so teals are just a bunch of lazy party animals trying to avoid hard work

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Date: 26/06/2026 19:09:56
From: party_pants
ID: 2404899
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

so teals are just a bunch of lazy party animals trying to avoid hard work

Quite the opposite. They are beginners and only slowly learning the ways to boost their productivity and effectiveness. Lessons other parties learnt decades, even centuries, ago.

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Date: 27/06/2026 10:34:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2405059
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Shocking own-goal from Victorian Labor:

They knew: Leaks reveal government ignored pleas on CFMEU conduct
Nick McKenzie, Lachlan Abbott and Clay Lucas
June 27, 2026 — 5:00am

The Victorian government knew the CFMEU’s lawless takeover of its Big Build infrastructure program was driving massive labour cost blowouts but directed contractors to pay up and carry on, including $200 million to cope with out-of-control industrial relations on Labor’s much-touted Metro Tunnel project.

The highly damaging claims are contained in leaked Big Build files created between 2022 and late 2024 obtained by this masthead detailing repeated infrastructure company warnings to the government that CFMEU demands were blowing out labour costs by more than 20 per cent.

Contractor partners said that in response, they were told to bow to the costly union demands, including the use of the CFMEU’s handpicked contractors.

Premier Jacinta Allan and her government have insisted for almost two years that there was “zero tolerance” for union excesses on public sector sites.

But the Metro Tunnel, a nine-kilometre rail line under central Melbourne, has emerged as the starkest evidence that the government knew the union’s behaviour was having a massive impact long before this masthead and 60 Minutes exposed it in the Building Bad series in July 2024.

Explosive correspondence from May of that year shows the government was told, in detail, how unions were dictating a massive extra workforce be employed on the project at a time when it was already facing pressure from global price increases for materials, and competition from the state’s own massive building program.

The consortium told the government that workforce had been inflated by 22 per cent above “what would typically be required under the existing industry norms in Victoria”.

The report raises major questions for Allan, including her failure to reveal its contents to the public or submit its findings about her government’s support of systemic misconduct – which appears to include unlawful cartel-style behaviour – to law enforcement agencies.

The consortium calculated that $196.4 million of its labour costs were driven entirely by union-backed staffing rules. The leaked document outlines how contractors were forced to add extra, non-productive workers onto five distinct areas across the project including extra crane observers, traffic controllers and cleaners.

The consortium – known as the Cross Yarra Partnership and comprising John Holland, Lendlease and Bouygues Construction – says in the document that it also “vigorously challenged” the CFMEU placing multitudes of health and safety representatives onto the build.

To avoid works being suspended, the consortium “has had to proceed with adopting the excessive requirements” of labourers. “This approach was supported by the state,” the correspondence with the government says.

The state, told of what was occurring on the Metro Tunnel site, merely indicated it understood what was going on, the consortium says: “The state has previously requested and been provided with details on the costs for the attendant labour on the project to understand the scale of the issue being experienced and has indicated its understanding on this matter.”

The report notes there had been, since the pandemic hit in 2020, an “extraordinary” change in how mega-projects were being delivered. Part of the reason for this was “a significant shift in the industrial environment driven by political factors”.

The report describes how Victoria’s “industrial relations landscape” forced builders on major government projects to use “only certain subcontractors” – resulting in “an inability to carry out a competitive tender process or obtain a fixed price for works”, and forcing the builder to accept costs “on significantly increased rates for materials and labour”.

In describing the union-driven cost blowouts, the report describes how “matters characterised as safety” by CFMEU health and safety representatives on the project had increased the number of workers on the site.

The Metro consortium report states that dealing with the demands of the union’s CFMEU health and safety representatives was “significantly beyond” what the consortium and its subcontractors had encountered in “previous experiences on other projects, including in Victoria”.

The consortium also said that the state government had provided “little assistance/influence” when the Metro Tunnel project “has been faced with industrial issues despite all major infrastructure projects in Victoria being challenged and disrupted”.

The Metro project consortium states that it caved in to the CFMEU’s demands with the explicit backing of the Labor government.

“The D&C Subcontractor may have well taken a different position which no doubt would have caused significant delay and industrial unrest, however it has worked with the State and the relevant stakeholders to ensure the Works continue site without delays, again adopting a ‘best for project’ attitude,” the document says.

“The impact by the State in this industrial action constitutes an act or omission” that required the Labor government to compensate the Metro CYP consortium, the May 2024 report concludes.

The leaked files are politically damaging because they identify the Labor government as an active participant and endorser of the Big Build procurement practices that enabled organised crime and bikies to profit.

They did this both via handpicked labour hire and other subcontractors, and by leveraging the role of health and safety representatives on site. These health and safety officers are uniquely powerful because of their ability to shut down a site at a moment’s notice if they identify risks they say could harm workers.

As part of a major investigation, 60 Minutes and The Age will in coming days expose how money from the Big Build went to the underworld and detail how some firms named in the reports to government as contributing to cost blowouts had notorious gangland figures on their payroll.

The May report was immediately followed by a briefing in late June 2024 to the Allan government’s cabinet, authored by the office of Danny Pearson, who in September 2023 replaced Allan in her role as the longest-serving Big Build minister.

That earlier leaked briefing noted: “Productivity rates at the CBD stations have been lower than forecast, due to a range of factors, including industrial relations.”

Asked how much money was paid to bikies on the project the premier said there was no evidence of that happening.

Shortly after, a further leak from within the government revealed it was negotiating to pay the Cross Yarra Partnership upwards of $800 million over the exact issues identified in the May document. The government eventually revealed in September that it had paid $837 million more to the consortium.

This pushed the total bill for the project beyond $15 billion – more than triple the estimated cost when it was first put forward in 2008 by the Brumby Labor government.

“When you’re faced with considering some of these challenges, you’re faced with a choice: do you abandon projects like the Liberal Party do? Or do you roll your sleeves up and get them done? And that’s what we are doing with the Metro Tunnel,” Allan told Parliament in August 2024.

Another tranche of confidential documents from 2022 to 2024 obtained by this masthead relates to work done by the Southern Project Alliance, a consortium removing level crossings on behalf of the government.

The documents also feature repeated warnings that the CFMEU had forced its handpicked firms onto Big Build projects, leading to labour cost blowouts of up to 25 per cent. The documents describe the government offering “no mitigation” assistance when it was sought.

The reports add to the growing body of evidence that Allan – as Big Build minister between 2018 and late 2023 and then as Premier – had knowledge of the CFMEU rackets that had taken over the Big Build but did not stop them.

The premier first moved on the scandal in July 2024, after this masthead and 60 Minutes broke the Building Bad scandal.

The government did not respond to questions by deadline.

Corruption-buster Geoffrey Watson described the newly revealed reports as “smoking guns” proving his contention in February this year – aggressively dismissed by the Allan government – that Labor not only knew of the CFMEU Big Build racket but enabled it.

Watson has separately estimated the total Big Build blowout cost attributable to CFMEU-linked wrongdoing at 15 per cent or $15 billion – a figure also attacked by Allan as wrong.

In March this year, The Age reported that Allan’s chief infrastructure adviser Kevin Devlin had also privately warned her of the systemic and costly wrongdoing on the Big Build.

Devlin repeatedly raised concerns with Allan, then the transport infrastructure minister, about union misconduct and the abuse of its industrial muscle but felt his concerns were not adequately heeded, according to four sources who have spoken to Devlin.

As well as the private warnings, the Allan government’s infrastructure tsar was a co-director on a high-level board that estimated CFMEU lawlessness and criminality had caused cost blowouts of up to 30 per cent on taxpayer-funded projects.

Two of the firms identified in the May 2024 report as contributing to Metro Tunnel cost blowouts had Mick Gatto on their payroll. A third firm named in the report allegedly made corrupt payments to a union boss to receive preferential treatment.

As part of the July 2024 Building Bad series, this masthead revealed how the CFMEU had placed bikie gang-linked members and underworld figures as health and safety representatives across the Big Build.

In turn, these health and safety representatives subsequently forced projects to use labour hire firms and subcontractors infiltrated by gangland figures, or with Gatto or corrupt CFMEU officials on the payroll.

In March 2025, two CFMEU health and safety representatives on the Metro Tunnel were sacked for their part in a “ghost shifts” scam, where fake invoices were issued for shifts never worked. Earlier this year, this masthead revealed police were investigating allegations that employees of Swiss company Schindler Group fraudulently claimed $6 million to replace escalators on the Metro Tunnel project.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/they-knew-leaks-reveal-government-ignored-pleas-on-cfmeu-conduct-20260626-p60aab.html

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Date: 27/06/2026 15:10:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2405146
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

now this is the kind

An Australian man has been arrested in Thailand as investigations continue into the discovery of the body of a teenage girl found stuffed inside a suitcase.

of monoculture we would happily support

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Date: 27/06/2026 15:12:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 2405151
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

now this is the kind

An Australian man has been arrested in Thailand as investigations continue into the discovery of the body of a teenage girl found stuffed inside a suitcase.

of monoculture we would happily support

Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi!

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Date: 28/06/2026 08:15:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 2405367
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026


Please tell me it isn’t so.

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Date: 28/06/2026 09:16:43
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2405392
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:



Please tell me it isn’t so.

So this woman who works with the disabled and underprivileged felt unable to say what she thinks until hanson came along?

Looks like she is a product of the Paulinebots.

Or maybe from another planet.

Quite possibly both.

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Date: 28/06/2026 09:21:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 2405396
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:


Please tell me it isn’t so.

So this woman who works with the disabled and underprivileged felt unable to say what she thinks until hanson came along?

Looks like she is a product of the Paulinebots.

Or maybe from another planet.

Quite possibly both.

She’d clearly lost her marbles. If she ever had any.

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Date: 28/06/2026 10:08:39
From: ms spock
ID: 2405410
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The University of Melbourne has cancelled a prestigious lecture by eminent Australian cardiologist Professor Peter McDonald after Zionist pressure. Wendy Bacon reports.

Eminent Australian cardiologist Professor Peter McDonald who was scheduled to give a prestigious lecture at University of Melbourne in July has been ‘cancelled’ due to behind-the-scenes pressure from Zionists.

In April, Macdonald who is a pioneer and innovator in heart transplant medicine was invited by University of Melbourne…

Read the Full Story Here

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Date: 28/06/2026 10:13:41
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2405413
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


The University of Melbourne has cancelled a prestigious lecture by eminent Australian cardiologist Professor Peter McDonald after Zionist pressure. Wendy Bacon reports.

Eminent Australian cardiologist Professor Peter McDonald who was scheduled to give a prestigious lecture at University of Melbourne in July has been ‘cancelled’ due to behind-the-scenes pressure from Zionists.

In April, Macdonald who is a pioneer and innovator in heart transplant medicine was invited by University of Melbourne…

Read the Full Story Here

Bloody Political Correctness.

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Date: 28/06/2026 10:15:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 2405415
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:


Please tell me it isn’t so.

So this woman who works with the disabled and underprivileged felt unable to say what she thinks until hanson came along?

Looks like she is a product of the Paulinebots.

Or maybe from another planet.

Quite possibly both.

She’d clearly lost her marbles. If she ever had any.

THen there’s Jake, a tradie from Queanbeyan and a former Liberal voter, said he was also a big fan of Pauline Hanson and lamented the slow trade at the pub as a symptom of cost-of-living pressures. “Everyone’s paying through the nose. There’s no one here,” he said.

“Look at the country now. It’s gone to shit. You can’t say it hasn’t.

“Australia needs to change, mate. Badly.”
‘There’s a void’ … Between Pauline’s voter’s ears.

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Date: 28/06/2026 10:16:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 2405417
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

The Rev Dodgson said:


ms spock said:

The University of Melbourne has cancelled a prestigious lecture by eminent Australian cardiologist Professor Peter McDonald after Zionist pressure. Wendy Bacon reports.

Eminent Australian cardiologist Professor Peter McDonald who was scheduled to give a prestigious lecture at University of Melbourne in July has been ‘cancelled’ due to behind-the-scenes pressure from Zionists.

In April, Macdonald who is a pioneer and innovator in heart transplant medicine was invited by University of Melbourne…

Read the Full Story Here

Bloody Political Correctness.

Why do Zionists have to be listened to?

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Date: 28/06/2026 10:18:23
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2405418
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ms spock said:

The University of Melbourne has cancelled a prestigious lecture by eminent Australian cardiologist Professor Peter McDonald after Zionist pressure. Wendy Bacon reports.

Eminent Australian cardiologist Professor Peter McDonald who was scheduled to give a prestigious lecture at University of Melbourne in July has been ‘cancelled’ due to behind-the-scenes pressure from Zionists.

In April, Macdonald who is a pioneer and innovator in heart transplant medicine was invited by University of Melbourne…

Read the Full Story Here

Bloody Political Correctness.

Why do Zionists have to be listened to?

because it is antisemitic not to.

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Date: 28/06/2026 10:20:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 2405420
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bloody Political Correctness.

Why do Zionists have to be listened to?

because it is antisemitic not to.

So they say. Is it not also antisemitic to treat the Palestinians in the same way?

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Date: 28/06/2026 10:27:08
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2405421
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ms spock said:

The University of Melbourne has cancelled a prestigious lecture by eminent Australian cardiologist Professor Peter McDonald after Zionist pressure. Wendy Bacon reports.

Eminent Australian cardiologist Professor Peter McDonald who was scheduled to give a prestigious lecture at University of Melbourne in July has been ‘cancelled’ due to behind-the-scenes pressure from Zionists.

In April, Macdonald who is a pioneer and innovator in heart transplant medicine was invited by University of Melbourne…

Read the Full Story Here

Bloody Political Correctness.

Why do Zionists have to be listened to?

Of course Zionists should be listened to.

And if what they say is racist crap the response (if any) should be appropriate.

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Date: 28/06/2026 10:33:20
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2405423
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:

THen there’s Jake, a tradie from Queanbeyan and a former Liberal voter, said he was also a big fan of Pauline Hanson and lamented the slow trade at the pub as a symptom of cost-of-living pressures. “Everyone’s paying through the nose. There’s no one here,” he said.

“Look at the country now. It’s gone to shit. You can’t say it hasn’t.

“Australia needs to change, mate. Badly.”
‘There’s a void’ … Between Pauline’s voter’s ears.

Side note: I hate when shit like this is reported in a news article. No one gives a flying duck what Jake from Queanbeyan is saying in a pub.

Is this actually what people are thinking, or is this what the media is trying to influence people to think?

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Date: 28/06/2026 10:36:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 2405424
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

THen there’s Jake, a tradie from Queanbeyan and a former Liberal voter, said he was also a big fan of Pauline Hanson and lamented the slow trade at the pub as a symptom of cost-of-living pressures. “Everyone’s paying through the nose. There’s no one here,” he said.

“Look at the country now. It’s gone to shit. You can’t say it hasn’t.

“Australia needs to change, mate. Badly.”
‘There’s a void’ … Between Pauline’s voter’s ears.

Side note: I hate when shit like this is reported in a news article. No one gives a flying duck what Jake from Queanbeyan is saying in a pub.

Is this actually what people are thinking, or is this what the media is trying to influence people to think?

The article does cover both sides of the story. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-28/does-pauline-hansons-claim-growing-support-act-pass-pub-test/106840062

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Date: 28/06/2026 10:53:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2405426
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

THen there’s Jake, a tradie from Queanbeyan and a former Liberal voter, said he was also a big fan of Pauline Hanson and lamented the slow trade at the pub as a symptom of cost-of-living pressures. “Everyone’s paying through the nose. There’s no one here,” he said.

“Look at the country now. It’s gone to shit. You can’t say it hasn’t.

“Australia needs to change, mate. Badly.”
‘There’s a void’ … Between Pauline’s voter’s ears.

Side note: I hate when shit like this is reported in a news article. No one gives a flying duck what Jake from Queanbeyan is saying in a pub.

Is this actually what people are thinking, or is this what the media is trying to influence people to think?

The article does cover both sides of the story. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-28/does-pauline-hansons-claim-growing-support-act-pass-pub-test/106840062

oh damn things are bad guess that means things need to change and change is what we need even changes for the worse

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Date: 28/06/2026 11:14:16
From: Michael V
ID: 2405431
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So this woman who works with the disabled and underprivileged felt unable to say what she thinks until hanson came along?

Looks like she is a product of the Paulinebots.

Or maybe from another planet.

Quite possibly both.

She’d clearly lost her marbles. If she ever had any.

THen there’s Jake, a tradie from Queanbeyan and a former Liberal voter, said he was also a big fan of Pauline Hanson and lamented the slow trade at the pub as a symptom of cost-of-living pressures. “Everyone’s paying through the nose. There’s no one here,” he said.

“Look at the country now. It’s gone to shit. You can’t say it hasn’t.

“Australia needs to change, mate. Badly.”
‘There’s a void’ … Between Pauline’s voter’s ears.

And I suspect PH, Trump etc are deliberately exploiting that void.

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Date: 28/06/2026 11:16:48
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2405432
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

She’d clearly lost her marbles. If she ever had any.

THen there’s Jake, a tradie from Queanbeyan and a former Liberal voter, said he was also a big fan of Pauline Hanson and lamented the slow trade at the pub as a symptom of cost-of-living pressures. “Everyone’s paying through the nose. There’s no one here,” he said.

“Look at the country now. It’s gone to shit. You can’t say it hasn’t.

“Australia needs to change, mate. Badly.”
‘There’s a void’ … Between Pauline’s voter’s ears.

And I suspect PH, Trump etc are deliberately exploiting that void.

Only an idiot wouldn’t…

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Date: 28/06/2026 11:18:43
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2405434
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


…cost-of-living pressures. “Everyone’s paying through the nose. There’s no one here,” he said.

Maybe this tradie should reduce his hourly rate so customers don’t have to pay through their noses.

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Date: 28/06/2026 11:19:49
From: ms spock
ID: 2405435
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

THen there’s Jake, a tradie from Queanbeyan and a former Liberal voter, said he was also a big fan of Pauline Hanson and lamented the slow trade at the pub as a symptom of cost-of-living pressures. “Everyone’s paying through the nose. There’s no one here,” he said.

“Look at the country now. It’s gone to shit. You can’t say it hasn’t.

“Australia needs to change, mate. Badly.”
‘There’s a void’ … Between Pauline’s voter’s ears.

Side note: I hate when shit like this is reported in a news article. No one gives a flying duck what Jake from Queanbeyan is saying in a pub.

Is this actually what people are thinking, or is this what the media is trying to influence people to think?

I think it is an influencing slant that they are going on with.

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Date: 28/06/2026 11:21:29
From: poikilotherm
ID: 2405437
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Bogsnorkler said:


Divine Angel said:

…cost-of-living pressures. “Everyone’s paying through the nose. There’s no one here,” he said.

Maybe this tradie should reduce his hourly rate so customers don’t have to pay through their noses.

Ah, attack the person not the issue at hand, nice.

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Date: 28/06/2026 11:22:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 2405438
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Bogsnorkler said:


Divine Angel said:

…cost-of-living pressures. “Everyone’s paying through the nose. There’s no one here,” he said.

Maybe this tradie should reduce his hourly rate so customers don’t have to pay through their noses.

Fair point but lose his drinking money? I doubt he’ll oblige.

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Date: 28/06/2026 11:25:00
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2405441
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

poikilotherm said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Divine Angel said:

…cost-of-living pressures. “Everyone’s paying through the nose. There’s no one here,” he said.

Maybe this tradie should reduce his hourly rate so customers don’t have to pay through their noses.

Ah, attack the person not the issue at hand, nice.

so why attack me and not the issue I raised?

I presume you have heard the term devil’s advocate?

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Date: 28/06/2026 12:21:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2405459
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Bogsnorkler said:


poikilotherm said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Maybe this tradie should reduce his hourly rate so customers don’t have to pay through their noses.

Ah, attack the person not the issue at hand, nice.

so why attack me and not the issue I raised?

I presume you have heard the term devil’s advocate?

wait isn’t high prices the issue at hand

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Date: 28/06/2026 16:11:35
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2405546
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

‘Offensive and unlawful’: Big Build contractors slapped as ex-watchdogs back royal commission
Nick McKenzie and Lachlan Abbott
June 28, 2026 — 5:00am

Victoria’s top labour hire cop has launched an unprecedented attack on the state’s Big Build mega-contractors, saying they are the head of the rotting fish that is the state’s corruption-plagued construction sector and declaring that legal holes mean they get away with appalling wrongdoing.

Labour Hire Commissioner Steve Dargavel’s extraordinary comments came as two respected former top anti-corruption officials issued a damning joint assessment of Premier Jacinta Allan’s failure to clean up the infrastructure scheme she presided over for years as minister.

Former ombudsman Deborah Glass and ex-senior judge and former chief of the Independent Broad-based Anti-Corruption Commission Robert Redlich said an urgent royal commission was the only remedy that would adequately confront corruption on the government’s signature $109 billion Big Build infrastructure program.

“A royal commission is desperately needed,” said Redlich, who Labor appointed to run IBAC from 2018 to 2022. “It’s the only mechanism for properly investigating what is 10 years of rotten culture.

“This is an unprecedented historic scandal. I know of no scandal that has involved the sort of public wastage that has occurred here, and it’s only a royal commission that can root out all of the causes, all of the reasons why the checks and balances that are in place have failed.”

Glass agreed, saying questions about the Labor government’s management of the Big Build “goes back years”.

“What we’re seeing is a government that decides to build a huge, expensive hole in the ground, and when it’s digging that huge, expensive hole, it doesn’t care what it costs,” Glass said. “It doesn’t care what else is involved. It just keeps on digging

Allan on Sunday said she remained opposed to a royal commission.

“We have had a royal commission in this country, and it did not change the culture,” she said.

The federal royal commission into trade unions ran from 2014 to 2015, well before major work on the government’s Big Build had ramped up and the corruption issues on these projects first emerged.

Allan said her government had instead strengthened the powers of Victoria Police and the Labour Hire Authority, improved whistleblower protections, added requirements for companies to report misconduct and committed to give the state’s anti-corruption watchdog powers to follow taxpayer dollars to subcontractors.

“I am focused in having absolute no tolerance for allegations of criminal violent behaviour on work sites,” she said.

“It’s abhorrent behaviour, that is why we have taken the strong action we have taken to date.”

Opposition major projects spokesman Evan Mulholland said that Redlich and Glass’ statements showed a clear need for a royal commission, which the Coalition has pledged to set up if they form government in November.

“Victorians deserve answers, and we will give them those answers,” Mulholland said.

On Saturday, this masthead revealed the government was warned by major contractors about CFMEU excesses on its major projects, particularly the $15 billion Melbourne Metro, well before the scandal broke in public. Leaked documents show the contractors claiming they were told to pay up and keep the projects moving.

Dargavel, who will step down next month after eight years policing Victoria’s labour hire sector, has done more than any law enforcement official or regulator to tackle Big Build labour hire firms engaging in wrongdoing as they turn over hundreds of millions of dollars supplying hundreds of workers to big ticket rail and road projects.

In an exclusive interview with this masthead and 60 Minutes, Dargavel took aim at principal or tier-one contractors, saying that some had engaged in shocking behaviour by relying on labour hire firms they knew to be suspect.

They knew: Leaks reveal government ignored pleas on CFMEU conduct
“There has been nothing done about the principal contractors involved in this,” he said.

“There is evidence of principal contractors being involved in unlawful conduct or supporting those who are engaging in unlawful conduct,” he said, while refusing to name specific companies.

“Ultimately, the fish rots from the head – the principal contractor is the head. If the body is rotten, the question has to be: why are they it to continue?”

While Redlich and Glass no longer hold official office, Dargavel’s comments as a still-serving regulator are politically damaging because they are at odds with Allan’s repeated insistence her government had acted adequately in the past two years combating alleged corruption on the Big Build scheme, which she oversaw as minister.

He said the mega-firms on the Big Build had been “doing business with businesses and structures that most people in the community would find offensive”.

“They have not been held to account … Because the laws in this country need to be improved.”

Dargavel has had relative success attacking corrupt or unlawful labour hire, including some that placed bikies and gangland figures on Big Build sites with the help of CFMEU figures. One notorious examples is Women in Construction, a firm that Dargavel has ordered to leave the North East Link by Friday but which has already earned millions in taxpayer funds in recent years.

Despite its clear links to criminals, Women in Construction will be paid by the NE Link consortium, led by principal Labor government contractor CPB, for another week, having already earned millions supplying hundreds of workers to the project.

It was previously used by another government principal contractor, Acciona, although the giant infrastructure firm severed ties with Women in Construction in 2024 after repeated integrity concerns.

Dargavel’s intervention comes after this masthead revealed explosive secret correspondence written in 2023 and 2024, in which Labor’s Big Build’s principal contractors claimed the state government directed them for “political reasons” to cave in to the CFMEU’s lawless Big Build behaviour despite knowing it was inflicting massive cost blowouts.

Opposition Leader Jess Wilson said on Saturday a royal commission was required to ensure the scandals on the Big Build were never repeated.

“The revelations today demonstrate that Premier Jacinta Allan knew that corruption was happening on these sites,” she said. “Not only did she know and do nothing about it, she allowed it to happen. She backed it in. She approved it. This premier is not fit to govern.”

In the next part of a major investigation, The Age and 60 Minutes will on Sunday night reveal evidence showing how payments from Big Build subcontractors, including those with Victorian government labour hire licences, are still being made to Victoria’s underworld.

Redlich, who worked on the landmark Costigan royal commission into organised crime and the painters and dockers union in the 1980s, said a royal commission was needed to examine all those accused of contributing to Big Build corruption: from bikies and gangland figures profiteering, and principal contractors employing corrupt labour hire and other subcontractors, to the public servants in charge of this procurement, and the Labor politicians with ultimate responsibility.

Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan says ‘no evidence’ of bikies on North East Link

Asked how much money was paid to bikies on the project the premier said there was no evidence of that happening.

Asked who was ultimately responsible for the Big Build’s corruption, Redlich named the “ministers that are responsible for particular government departments the Victorian Infrastructure Development Authority … senior public servants who should be responsible for oversighting the contractual arrangements, the private enterprises who must be party to the corrupt environment which is taking place”.

Before becoming premier in September 2023, Allan was the minister responsible for the Big Build for almost a decade.

The last time Redlich and Glass joined forces was in 2021 to expose the abuse of public resources by Labor minister Adem Somyurek, who was sacked and expelled from the ALP for his misconduct. The pair said the Big Build scandal was vastly bigger but had led to no accountability.

Glass said her last major investigation before stepping down as ombudsman in 2024 was into the genesis of the Suburban Rail Loop

She said that what she discovered “made me profoundly uncomfortable about how public money was being used for political purposes and how the end simply seemed to justify the means”.

“What we’ve seen in the last couple of years, there are an enormous number of questions and no answers,” she said. “They care about their political legacy. They care about the tunnels being dug, the project being built, how it happens. There seems to be no desire to expose where those public funds have gone.”

Redlich said the Big Build provided “an environment in which bikie gangs and criminal organisations have been able to flourish”, while Victorian taxpayers “are not getting value for money”.

The former judge said this was because some contractors had to pay an “extortion fee in order to be able to survive in the Big Build”.

Redlich said a royal commission should examine why Labor gave so much power to the CFMEU to wield lawlessly over the Big Build.

“One needs to look at why it was that a decision was made to give CFMEU much greater power,” he said. “It became a monopoly over time, and I suspect it’s a bit like the unruly child who is given something to play with and, eventually, it becomes one that is out of control.”

The government did not respond to questions.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/offensive-and-unlawful-big-build-contractors-slapped-as-ex-watchdogs-back-royal-commission-20260627-p60al1.html

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Date: 28/06/2026 17:57:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2405578
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Annabel Crabb’s article; Hanson’s monoculture comments are from her three-step playbook and the Liberals played right into it

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Date: 28/06/2026 18:00:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2405583
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Annabel Crabb’s article; Hanson’s monoculture comments are from her three-step playbook and the Liberals played right into it

I’m looking forward to the next election firmly establishing Labor as the party of government, and the Libs, Nats and ONs as the minor parties of chaotic rabble.

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Date: 28/06/2026 18:08:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 2405584
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Bubblecar said:


roughbarked said:

Annabel Crabb’s article; Hanson’s monoculture comments are from her three-step playbook and the Liberals played right into it

I’m looking forward to the next election firmly establishing Labor as the party of government, and the Libs, Nats and ONs as the minor parties of chaotic rabble.

Again Annabel Crabb’s comment on that rabble: Abbott and Hanson’s ancient feud is rife with political drama and biblical comeuppance

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Date: 28/06/2026 18:08:45
From: ms spock
ID: 2405585
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Bubblecar said:


roughbarked said:

Annabel Crabb’s article; Hanson’s monoculture comments are from her three-step playbook and the Liberals played right into it

I’m looking forward to the next election firmly establishing Labor as the party of government, and the Libs, Nats and ONs as the minor parties of chaotic rabble.

Tony Abbott, whose recent ascension to the Liberal Party presidency was accompanied by nervous assurances from Liberal moderates that it was a largely non-speaking role, went on Sky News to a) prove them wrong and b) essentially agree with Hanson.

🤣😂🤣

Oh dear…

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Date: 29/06/2026 00:05:36
From: dv
ID: 2405680
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Some better polling for the ALP over the weekend

Redbridge

2pp
ALP 55 vs LNP 45
ALP 56 vs ONP 44

Primaries
ALP 30
ONP 29
LNP 18
Green 14
Other 9

Preferred PM
Albanese 33
Hanson 23
Taylor 11

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Date: 29/06/2026 01:16:50
From: dv
ID: 2405681
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


Some better polling for the ALP over the weekend

Redbridge

2pp
ALP 55 vs LNP 45
ALP 56 vs ONP 44

Primaries
ALP 30
ONP 29
LNP 18
Green 14
Other 9

Preferred PM
Albanese 33
Hanson 23
Taylor 11

And a Newspoll appears to show a similar trend

2pp
ALP 56.3 vs LNP 43.7
ALP 54 vs ONP 46

Primaries
ALP 33%
LNP 17%
ONP 29%
Green 13%
Other 8%

It might be that some further scrutiny of PH has led to some people remembering who she is.

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Date: 29/06/2026 18:47:53
From: fsm
ID: 2405870
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 29/06/2026 18:58:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2405872
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

fsm said:



Heh.

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Date: 29/06/2026 20:49:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2405886
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

house prices unaffordable, communist labor bad

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-29/anthony-albanese-defends-budget-cgt-change-and-multiculturalism/106857928

house prices dropping, communist labor bad

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Date: 29/06/2026 21:28:48
From: dv
ID: 2405896
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

There’s no much I agree with ONP on but I do support theor citizens initiated referenda policy.
Sometimes there are issues that just get stuck. Despite the bulk of Australians supporting the change, they just can’t get through parliament because the MPs fear retribution. Same sex marriage was one such issue and it was only broken by the plebiscite. Marijuana decriminalisation is another, and that’s still stuck.

Probably I’d prefer regular citizen initiated plebiscites. I think the bar for constitutional change should remain pretty high.

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Date: 30/06/2026 01:45:04
From: dv
ID: 2405935
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/paul-hogan-pelican-pauline-hanson-polls/h6wm4uc0b

Paul Hogan hits back at ‘pelican’ Hanson over ‘monoculture’ claim
The One Nation leader’s approval ratings dropped after her National Press Club speech.

Australian acting legend Paul Hogan has rejected Pauline Hanson’s “monoculture” comments, accusing the One Nation leader of “living in the past” in an interview with the Australian Financial Review.

“She’s a pelican, yeah. Outrageous, so racist. It sounds very much like this stupid boofhead over here, Trump,” Hogan told the Australian Financial Review on Sunday.

“She’s living in the past, obviously.”

The 86-year-old actor is best known for playing leather-clad larrikin Mick Dundee in the Crocodile Dundee movies, which have shaped an enduring image of Australians in United States popular culture.

His comments came after Hanson’s speech at the National Press Club, where she called for the end of multiculturalism, in favour of “monoculturalism”.

“We are a multiracial society, but we must be monocultural. Australians must live under the one cultural umbrella,” she said.

When later asked to clarify what she meant by “monoculture”, Hanson told the Senate last week: “Bring back Paul Hogan and Norman Gunston. These are the essential features of Australian monoculture, and there’s nothing remotely exclusionary about them.”

“How can it be a monoculture?” Hogan asked.

“We’re all migrants, except the Aboriginals, who as far as we know have been for 60,000 years.”

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Date: 30/06/2026 05:30:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2405943
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/paul-hogan-pelican-pauline-hanson-polls/h6wm4uc0b

Paul Hogan hits back at ‘pelican’ Hanson over ‘monoculture’ claim
The One Nation leader’s approval ratings dropped after her National Press Club speech.

Australian acting legend Paul Hogan has rejected Pauline Hanson’s “monoculture” comments, accusing the One Nation leader of “living in the past” in an interview with the Australian Financial Review.

“She’s a pelican, yeah. Outrageous, so racist. It sounds very much like this stupid boofhead over here, Trump,” Hogan told the Australian Financial Review on Sunday.

“She’s living in the past, obviously.”

The 86-year-old actor is best known for playing leather-clad larrikin Mick Dundee in the Crocodile Dundee movies, which have shaped an enduring image of Australians in United States popular culture.

His comments came after Hanson’s speech at the National Press Club, where she called for the end of multiculturalism, in favour of “monoculturalism”.

“We are a multiracial society, but we must be monocultural. Australians must live under the one cultural umbrella,” she said.

When later asked to clarify what she meant by “monoculture”, Hanson told the Senate last week: “Bring back Paul Hogan and Norman Gunston. These are the essential features of Australian monoculture, and there’s nothing remotely exclusionary about them.”

“How can it be a monoculture?” Hogan asked.

“We’re all migrants, except the Aboriginals, who as far as we know have been for 60,000 years.”

“Western culture” has been inherently multicultural for ages anyway, extremely diverse with all sorts of subcultures and unique offerings.

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Date: 30/06/2026 07:07:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2405956
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/paul-hogan-pelican-pauline-hanson-polls/h6wm4uc0b

Paul Hogan hits back at ‘pelican’ Hanson over ‘monoculture’ claim
The One Nation leader’s approval ratings dropped after her National Press Club speech.

Australian acting legend Paul Hogan has rejected Pauline Hanson’s “monoculture” comments, accusing the One Nation leader of “living in the past” in an interview with the Australian Financial Review.

“She’s a pelican, yeah. Outrageous, so racist. It sounds very much like this stupid boofhead over here, Trump,” Hogan told the Australian Financial Review on Sunday.

“She’s living in the past, obviously.”

The 86-year-old actor is best known for playing leather-clad larrikin Mick Dundee in the Crocodile Dundee movies, which have shaped an enduring image of Australians in United States popular culture.

His comments came after Hanson’s speech at the National Press Club, where she called for the end of multiculturalism, in favour of “monoculturalism”.

“We are a multiracial society, but we must be monocultural. Australians must live under the one cultural umbrella,” she said.

When later asked to clarify what she meant by “monoculture”, Hanson told the Senate last week: “Bring back Paul Hogan and Norman Gunston. These are the essential features of Australian monoculture, and there’s nothing remotely exclusionary about them.”

“How can it be a monoculture?” Hogan asked.

“We’re all migrants, except the Aboriginals, who as far as we know have been for 60,000 years.”

“Western culture” has been inherently multicultural for ages anyway, extremely diverse with all sorts of subcultures and unique offerings.

wait so life originated in Australia aha

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Date: 30/06/2026 08:04:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2405970
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/paul-hogan-pelican-pauline-hanson-polls/h6wm4uc0b

Paul Hogan hits back at ‘pelican’ Hanson over ‘monoculture’ claim
The One Nation leader’s approval ratings dropped after her National Press Club speech.

Australian acting legend Paul Hogan has rejected Pauline Hanson’s “monoculture” comments, accusing the One Nation leader of “living in the past” in an interview with the Australian Financial Review.

“She’s a pelican, yeah. Outrageous, so racist. It sounds very much like this stupid boofhead over here, Trump,” Hogan told the Australian Financial Review on Sunday.

“She’s living in the past, obviously.”

The 86-year-old actor is best known for playing leather-clad larrikin Mick Dundee in the Crocodile Dundee movies, which have shaped an enduring image of Australians in United States popular culture.

His comments came after Hanson’s speech at the National Press Club, where she called for the end of multiculturalism, in favour of “monoculturalism”.

“We are a multiracial society, but we must be monocultural. Australians must live under the one cultural umbrella,” she said.

When later asked to clarify what she meant by “monoculture”, Hanson told the Senate last week: “Bring back Paul Hogan and Norman Gunston. These are the essential features of Australian monoculture, and there’s nothing remotely exclusionary about them.”

“How can it be a monoculture?” Hogan asked.

“We’re all migrants, except the Aboriginals, who as far as we know have been for 60,000 years.”

“Western culture” has been inherently multicultural for ages anyway, extremely diverse with all sorts of subcultures and unique offerings.

wait so life originated in Australia aha

Presumably original occupiers don’t count as immigrants.

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Date: 30/06/2026 11:47:38
From: Ian
ID: 2406042
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 30/06/2026 18:30:30
From: dv
ID: 2406197
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

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Date: 30/06/2026 20:08:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2406219
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

dv said:


why are they stealing our lines

of white powder

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Date: 30/06/2026 22:26:10
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2406254
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation withdrew more than $800,000 of election spending claims after AEC inquiries
The Australian Electoral Commission is examining if party breached laws in its $6m public funding claim after the last election, documents show

The Australian Electoral Commission questioned Pauline Hanson’s One Nation party over more than $800,000 of claimed electoral expenditure for the last election, Guardian Australia can reveal.

Documents obtained under freedom of information laws show that the inquiries prompted the party to withdraw more than 140 items as it sought to provide additional information to justify almost 15% of the party’s $6.01m public funding claim.

The documents also reveal that the commission is now examining whether the party breached electoral funding laws for payments made to certain suppliers that were reimbursed in the claim.

As the party continues to rake in millions of dollars from supporters, and freshly banks more than $7m after its success at the South Australian election, the party’s claim to taxpayer funds is being reviewed by the regulator for potential breaches.

Hanson, as the party’s registered agent, would face criminal penalties if she submitted an “incomplete, false, or misleading claim” to a commonwealth entity, according to the declaration signed by the party leader that accompanied the claim.

One Nation has previously been found to have wrongly claimed public funding for electoral expenses and the party has twice been forced to pay back election funding – once after the 2019 election and again after the 2022 election.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/29/one-nation-pauline-hanson-election-funding-withdrawals-aec-ntwnfb

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Date: 30/06/2026 23:11:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2406257
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

so this fella is an accessory to unprofessional conduct by a teacher, but because he’s in the right party, Yousr News Media celebrate him as the good guy

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-30/liberal-backbencher-teacher-aa/106859816

Mr Kennedy says one of his teachers asked to borrow money from him and his mates during his final year of high school. He remembers thinking at the time it was a “little bit strange,” but it was not until after high school that he realised his teacher had a gambling problem. Reflecting on it now, he remembers feeling “helpless”. They ended up sharing a friendship across more than a decade, and through that time, he watched addiction change his friend’s life, resulting in him losing his job and car — and suffering worsening mental health. He says he attended Gambling Anonymous meetings alongside the friend, and through that, met other people who had lost their jobs and had family breakdowns, caused by gambling harm.

⚠ this is a statement about professional codes of conduct, about the harms of gambling, and about media literacy; it is not a suggestion that providing support for mental health is bad

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Date: 1/07/2026 09:12:00
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2406311
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Eh, it can go here.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/queensland-ebike-escooter-law-change-explained/106762970

Every day I see parents taking their kids to school doubling on an e-scooter. They’re an absolute menace, weaving between parked cars, coming out of nowhere on footpaths, and with a small child onboard too.

Mini Me’s school is on a main road and people are always running red lights even when they can see kids are waiting to cross. As such, police now wait near the crossing to catch people a) speeding in a school zone, and b) running the red light. Hopefully cops will also catch these morons with young kids on the scooter as well.

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Date: 1/07/2026 09:22:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 2406312
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Eh, it can go here.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/queensland-ebike-escooter-law-change-explained/106762970

Every day I see parents taking their kids to school doubling on an e-scooter. They’re an absolute menace, weaving between parked cars, coming out of nowhere on footpaths, and with a small child onboard too.

Mini Me’s school is on a main road and people are always running red lights even when they can see kids are waiting to cross. As such, police now wait near the crossing to catch people a) speeding in a school zone, and b) running the red light. Hopefully cops will also catch these morons with young kids on the scooter as well.

Any scooter e or otherwise, should be crushed if found traversing on a main road. If I hadn’t been on the ball one day recently when two young lads came downhill at speed around a blind corner straight at me. Yeah like they just appeared going flat chat, totally unconcerned about oncoming cars. As if it would be the driver’s fault they got hurt.

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Date: 1/07/2026 09:24:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 2406313
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

Eh, it can go here.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/queensland-ebike-escooter-law-change-explained/106762970

Every day I see parents taking their kids to school doubling on an e-scooter. They’re an absolute menace, weaving between parked cars, coming out of nowhere on footpaths, and with a small child onboard too.

Mini Me’s school is on a main road and people are always running red lights even when they can see kids are waiting to cross. As such, police now wait near the crossing to catch people a) speeding in a school zone, and b) running the red light. Hopefully cops will also catch these morons with young kids on the scooter as well.

Any scooter e or otherwise, should be crushed if found traversing on a main road. If I hadn’t been on the ball one day recently when two young lads came downhill at speed around a blind corner straight at me. Yeah like they just appeared going flat chat, totally unconcerned about oncoming cars. As if it would be the driver’s fault they got hurt.

Suzuki and all the other motor bike makers should be sued for making mini bikes for kids.

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Date: 1/07/2026 09:52:15
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2406317
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Eh, it can go here.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/queensland-ebike-escooter-law-change-explained/106762970

Every day I see parents taking their kids to school doubling on an e-scooter. They’re an absolute menace, weaving between parked cars, coming out of nowhere on footpaths, and with a small child onboard too.

Mini Me’s school is on a main road and people are always running red lights even when they can see kids are waiting to cross. As such, police now wait near the crossing to catch people a) speeding in a school zone, and b) running the red light. Hopefully cops will also catch these morons with young kids on the scooter as well.

You’d certainly hope they’d get caught.
I’m always very careful around school zones and have my left foot hovering over the brake pedal in case I have to stop quickly.
(I left-foot brake in automatic cars anyway so it’s easy for me to do)

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Date: 1/07/2026 10:00:56
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2406320
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Spiny Norman said:


Divine Angel said:

Eh, it can go here.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/queensland-ebike-escooter-law-change-explained/106762970

Every day I see parents taking their kids to school doubling on an e-scooter. They’re an absolute menace, weaving between parked cars, coming out of nowhere on footpaths, and with a small child onboard too.

Mini Me’s school is on a main road and people are always running red lights even when they can see kids are waiting to cross. As such, police now wait near the crossing to catch people a) speeding in a school zone, and b) running the red light. Hopefully cops will also catch these morons with young kids on the scooter as well.

You’d certainly hope they’d get caught.
I’m always very careful around school zones and have my left foot hovering over the brake pedal in case I have to stop quickly.
(I left-foot brake in automatic cars anyway so it’s easy for me to do)

School zones are 7am-9am, 2pm-4pm. Personally, I think the morning one should be 7.30am-9.30am. Not long ago I heard of a child being late for school, a few minutes past 9am, who was hit by a car doing the regular speed limit. (The kid is OK.) Kid was riding a regular bike to school, used the crossing, didn’t watch for cars and I don’t know if the driver didn’t see the kid or the crossing, or couldn’t stop in time.

Anyway that’s my 2c.

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Date: 1/07/2026 10:02:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2406323
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

Divine Angel said:

Eh, it can go here.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/queensland-ebike-escooter-law-change-explained/106762970

Every day I see parents taking their kids to school doubling on an e-scooter. They’re an absolute menace, weaving between parked cars, coming out of nowhere on footpaths, and with a small child onboard too.

Mini Me’s school is on a main road and people are always running red lights even when they can see kids are waiting to cross. As such, police now wait near the crossing to catch people a) speeding in a school zone, and b) running the red light. Hopefully cops will also catch these morons with young kids on the scooter as well.

You’d certainly hope they’d get caught.
I’m always very careful around school zones and have my left foot hovering over the brake pedal in case I have to stop quickly.
(I left-foot brake in automatic cars anyway so it’s easy for me to do)

School zones are 7am-9am, 2pm-4pm. Personally, I think the morning one should be 7.30am-9.30am. Not long ago I heard of a child being late for school, a few minutes past 9am, who was hit by a car doing the regular speed limit. (The kid is OK.) Kid was riding a regular bike to school, used the crossing, didn’t watch for cars and I don’t know if the driver didn’t see the kid or the crossing, or couldn’t stop in time.

Anyway that’s my 2c.

In NSW they go to 9:30.

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Date: 1/07/2026 10:12:49
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2406328
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

Divine Angel said:

Eh, it can go here.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/queensland-ebike-escooter-law-change-explained/106762970

Every day I see parents taking their kids to school doubling on an e-scooter. They’re an absolute menace, weaving between parked cars, coming out of nowhere on footpaths, and with a small child onboard too.

Mini Me’s school is on a main road and people are always running red lights even when they can see kids are waiting to cross. As such, police now wait near the crossing to catch people a) speeding in a school zone, and b) running the red light. Hopefully cops will also catch these morons with young kids on the scooter as well.

You’d certainly hope they’d get caught.
I’m always very careful around school zones and have my left foot hovering over the brake pedal in case I have to stop quickly.
(I left-foot brake in automatic cars anyway so it’s easy for me to do)

School zones are 7am-9am, 2pm-4pm. Personally, I think the morning one should be 7.30am-9.30am. Not long ago I heard of a child being late for school, a few minutes past 9am, who was hit by a car doing the regular speed limit. (The kid is OK.) Kid was riding a regular bike to school, used the crossing, didn’t watch for cars and I don’t know if the driver didn’t see the kid or the crossing, or couldn’t stop in time.

Anyway that’s my 2c.

I quite agree. The long lines of parked cars on the side of the road makes me rather nervous when I drive through them.

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Date: 1/07/2026 12:30:44
From: ms spock
ID: 2406408
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

Divine Angel said:

Eh, it can go here.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/queensland-ebike-escooter-law-change-explained/106762970

Every day I see parents taking their kids to school doubling on an e-scooter. They’re an absolute menace, weaving between parked cars, coming out of nowhere on footpaths, and with a small child onboard too.

Mini Me’s school is on a main road and people are always running red lights even when they can see kids are waiting to cross. As such, police now wait near the crossing to catch people a) speeding in a school zone, and b) running the red light. Hopefully cops will also catch these morons with young kids on the scooter as well.

You’d certainly hope they’d get caught.
I’m always very careful around school zones and have my left foot hovering over the brake pedal in case I have to stop quickly.
(I left-foot brake in automatic cars anyway so it’s easy for me to do)

School zones are 7am-9am, 2pm-4pm. Personally, I think the morning one should be 7.30am-9.30am. Not long ago I heard of a child being late for school, a few minutes past 9am, who was hit by a car doing the regular speed limit. (The kid is OK.) Kid was riding a regular bike to school, used the crossing, didn’t watch for cars and I don’t know if the driver didn’t see the kid or the crossing, or couldn’t stop in time.

Anyway that’s my 2c.

Some of the private schools in Illawarra has a permanent 40kms.

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Date: 1/07/2026 13:18:36
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2406432
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

’She doesn’t give a rats about you’: Amanda Vanstone on Pauline Hanson | Insiders

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Date: 1/07/2026 17:33:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2406510
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

are witches a cult

“https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/federal-election-review-partisan-witch-hunt-coalition-says/106864668”:1https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/federal-election-review-partisan-witch-hunt-coalition-says/106864668

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Date: 1/07/2026 17:34:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2406511
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

SCIENCE said:

are witches a cult

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/federal-election-review-partisan-witch-hunt-coalition-says/106864668

sorry fixed

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Date: 1/07/2026 18:54:45
From: ms spock
ID: 2406550
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

ms spock said:


Divine Angel said:

Spiny Norman said:

You’d certainly hope they’d get caught.
I’m always very careful around school zones and have my left foot hovering over the brake pedal in case I have to stop quickly.
(I left-foot brake in automatic cars anyway so it’s easy for me to do)

School zones are 7am-9am, 2pm-4pm. Personally, I think the morning one should be 7.30am-9.30am. Not long ago I heard of a child being late for school, a few minutes past 9am, who was hit by a car doing the regular speed limit. (The kid is OK.) Kid was riding a regular bike to school, used the crossing, didn’t watch for cars and I don’t know if the driver didn’t see the kid or the crossing, or couldn’t stop in time.

Anyway that’s my 2c.

Some of the private schools in Illawarra has a permanent 40kms.

has = have

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Date: 1/07/2026 20:11:41
From: ms spock
ID: 2406574
Subject: re: Australian politics - June 2026

Honest Australian Ad: Palantir

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