Welcome to the middle of the year.

Oh, and while I’m at it, a new month!

Happy Financial New Year

Neophyte said:

Happy Financial New Year

That too.

Partly cloudy top of 22, possible showers.

I’m assignment-doing, the other two are going to Dreamworld.

Fine, to 23C

Foggy, thick heavy..
Really really foggy

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees at the back door, there is some cloud, and it’s not light yet. We are forecast 16 degrees with showers increasing.

Supermarketing this morning, archery in the late afternoon.

Greetings Earthlings 💚💚💚

Now 16° but feels much colder.

Have a good day!

ms spock said:

Greetings Earthlings 💚💚💚

Now 16° but feels much colder.

Have a good day!

Top o’ t’ mornin’to ye.

What do they want from the shark bite kits that makes them worth stealing? Maybe the thermal blanket?

roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

Greetings Earthlings 💚💚💚

Now 16° but feels much colder.

Have a good day!

Top o’ t’ mornin’to ye.

Dia duit

I’ve got a houseplant which doesn’t like a lot of water, so I water sparingly. Yet that’s the only plant with fungus gnats, go figure. Anyway I’ll get some sticky traps, and try bottom-watering in the meantime.

From my Quora browsings this morning I see it’s alleged that John Entwistle of The Who was the most influential bass guitarist of pop music evah.

I’m not a big Who fan, but I can’t say I ever even noticed his bass guitar playing, which seems strange if he was so influential.

So what do you lot think?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-30/csiro-modelling-outcome-flooding-mitigation/106818124

They include construction of up to 10 “detentions” to hold water in upstream creeks during times of flood, and a canal cut through farmland to create a second outlet for the Richmond River near the coast.

“Right from day one, when they were asking me, ‘can I flood-proof the region?’ my answer always is, ‘nobody can’,” CSIRO project lead Jai Vaze said.

Ian said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-30/csiro-modelling-outcome-flooding-mitigation/106818124

They include construction of up to 10 “detentions” to hold water in upstream creeks during times of flood, and a canal cut through farmland to create a second outlet for the Richmond River near the coast.

“Right from day one, when they were asking me, ‘can I flood-proof the region?’ my answer always is, ‘nobody can’,” CSIRO project lead Jai Vaze said.

From the recent Disney film Hoppers, I learned beavers are the answer.

And talking of Quora browsings, I’m seeing increasingly that people writing about a specific woman swap randomly between using she/her and he/him.

Do people actually do this, or is it a self-reinforcing AI mistake?

The Rev Dodgson said:

From my Quora browsings this morning I see it’s alleged that John Entwistle of The Who was the most influential bass guitarist of pop music evah.

I’m not a big Who fan, but I can’t say I ever even noticed his bass guitar playing, which seems strange if he was so influential.

So what do you lot think?

He’s not bad..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Or4QGI80Y

Pump up the bass…

Divine Angel said:

I’ve got a houseplant which doesn’t like a lot of water, so I water sparingly. Yet that’s the only plant with fungus gnats, go figure. Anyway I’ll get some sticky traps, and try bottom-watering in the meantime.

Just like slugs will happily drown in beer, fungus gnats love bathing and drowning in apple cider vinegar. But it only kills the adults.

While by themselves the different methods I used had varying degrees of success, you can use a number of them in conjunction to completely eradicate your gnat problem fairly quickly.

I’ve put together this gnat killing regime which is effective and cheap.

Till the first inch or so of soil Sprinkle ground cinnamon all over the surface of the soil Set up vinegar traps around the plant and change them daily Insert slices of potato daily Do not water the plant until the top layer of soil is totally dry When top soil is dry, thoroughly drench the soil with the hydrogen peroxide solution Once the hydrogen peroxide solution has stopped fizzing, repeat step 1 onwards

Repeat steps 1 to 7 for a fortnight or a month, depending on the severity of the infestation.

If the gnats are still not wiped out, you’re going to have to invest in the more expensive options and follow these steps:

Sprinkle diatomaceous earth all over the surface of the soil Till the first inch or so of soil Keep vinegar traps around the plant Insert slices of potato daily Soak mosquito bits in a gallon of water. Use this “bits-mix” to thoroughly drench the plant when the top soil is dry Repeat step 1 onwards I’ll add to that; when you water your plants, water them with Chamomile tea.

Divine Angel said:

Ian said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-30/csiro-modelling-outcome-flooding-mitigation/106818124

They include construction of up to 10 “detentions” to hold water in upstream creeks during times of flood, and a canal cut through farmland to create a second outlet for the Richmond River near the coast.

“Right from day one, when they were asking me, ‘can I flood-proof the region?’ my answer always is, ‘nobody can’,” CSIRO project lead Jai Vaze said.

From the recent Disney film Hoppers, I learned beavers are the answer.

Yeah, them and the rabbits will have it all fixed, no problem.

(But seriously, looks like an interesting link, I’ll go and read it).

Ian said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

From my Quora browsings this morning I see it’s alleged that John Entwistle of The Who was the most influential bass guitarist of pop music evah.

I’m not a big Who fan, but I can’t say I ever even noticed his bass guitar playing, which seems strange if he was so influential.

So what do you lot think?

He’s not bad..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Or4QGI80Y

Pump up the bass…

Thanks.

He’s no Jack Bruce, but OK :)

The Rev Dodgson said:

And talking of Quora browsings, I’m seeing increasingly that people writing about a specific woman swap randomly between using she/her and he/him.

Do people actually do this, or is it a self-reinforcing AI mistake?

What is the name of the specific woman?

But yes, people do swap preferred pronouns. Sometimes it’s an alter-ego, like Lady Gaga/Jo Calderone, sometimes it’s an expression of who they are in any given moment, and sometimes it’s trying to find something to describe how they feel.

The Rev Dodgson said:

From my Quora browsings this morning I see it’s alleged that John Entwistle of The Who was the most influential bass guitarist of pop music evah.

I’m not a big Who fan, but I can’t say I ever even noticed his bass guitar playing, which seems strange if he was so influential.

So what do you lot think?

John Entwhistle was a hugely influential bass player. You probably should listen more to his playing.
There were times when playing live concerts, Pete Townshend and Keith Moon were so off their faces they couldn’t play Keith would be face down on his drumkit.
Daltrey and Entwhistle could carry the show and the fans thought they were listening to the whole band.

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

And talking of Quora browsings, I’m seeing increasingly that people writing about a specific woman swap randomly between using she/her and he/him.

Do people actually do this, or is it a self-reinforcing AI mistake?

What is the name of the specific woman?

But yes, people do swap preferred pronouns. Sometimes it’s an alter-ego, like Lady Gaga/Jo Calderone, sometimes it’s an expression of who they are in any given moment, and sometimes it’s trying to find something to describe how they feel.

and it has been used to garner attention on social media platforms. The world isn’t black and white, and it doesn’t matter to anyone except the person as to how they identify.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

From my Quora browsings this morning I see it’s alleged that John Entwistle of The Who was the most influential bass guitarist of pop music evah.

I’m not a big Who fan, but I can’t say I ever even noticed his bass guitar playing, which seems strange if he was so influential.

So what do you lot think?

He’s not bad..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Or4QGI80Y

Pump up the bass…

Thanks.

He’s no Jack Bruce, but OK :)

:)

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

From my Quora browsings this morning I see it’s alleged that John Entwistle of The Who was the most influential bass guitarist of pop music evah.

I’m not a big Who fan, but I can’t say I ever even noticed his bass guitar playing, which seems strange if he was so influential.

So what do you lot think?

He’s not bad..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Or4QGI80Y

Pump up the bass…

Thanks.

He’s no Jack Bruce, but OK :)

Jack was was a disappointment to his music teachers because he had is own style.

Ian said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

He’s not bad..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Or4QGI80Y

Pump up the bass…

Thanks.

He’s no Jack Bruce, but OK :)

:)

The Cream didn’t play any Who songs.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

From my Quora browsings this morning I see it’s alleged that John Entwistle of The Who was the most influential bass guitarist of pop music evah.

I’m not a big Who fan, but I can’t say I ever even noticed his bass guitar playing, which seems strange if he was so influential.

So what do you lot think?

He’s not bad..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Or4QGI80Y

Pump up the bass…

Thanks.

He’s no Jack Bruce, but OK :)

or Stanley Clarke.

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

And talking of Quora browsings, I’m seeing increasingly that people writing about a specific woman swap randomly between using she/her and he/him.

Do people actually do this, or is it a self-reinforcing AI mistake?

What is the name of the specific woman?

But yes, people do swap preferred pronouns. Sometimes it’s an alter-ego, like Lady Gaga/Jo Calderone, sometimes it’s an expression of who they are in any given moment, and sometimes it’s trying to find something to describe how they feel.

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

He’s not bad..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Or4QGI80Y

Pump up the bass…

Thanks.

He’s no Jack Bruce, but OK :)

or Stanley Clarke.

Happy 75th birthday for yesterday to Stanley Clarke.

I don’t know his music, probably because he’s a couple of months younger than me, but I’ll go and give it a listen.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

And talking of Quora browsings, I’m seeing increasingly that people writing about a specific woman swap randomly between using she/her and he/him.

Do people actually do this, or is it a self-reinforcing AI mistake?

What is the name of the specific woman?

But yes, people do swap preferred pronouns. Sometimes it’s an alter-ego, like Lady Gaga/Jo Calderone, sometimes it’s an expression of who they are in any given moment, and sometimes it’s trying to find something to describe how they feel.

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

Rosemary Kennedy was the victim of systemic failures and lack of knowledge. It seems her cognitive disability stems from lack of oxygen at birth, but there may have been other factors as well. For example, if there was autism, it was not at all understood or acknowledged back then.

Obviously, the lobotomy had catastrophic consequences. From what I’ve read (which admittedly isn’t much), her behaviour and cognitive processes regressed to that of a toddler post-lobotomy. In typically-developing children, this is a time where gender identity is shaped by societal expectations and sense of self, so it’s entirely possible Rosemary was exploring gender identity, as well as lacking communication skills, or just not having those neural pathways to know what gender is in the first place.

Again taking Lady Gaga as an example, because I was reminded of this recently, there was a photo taken at a concert where it appeared she had a penis. Rumours and gossip abounded, but when asked, Lady Gaga responded, “Maybe I do? Would it be so terrible?… Why the hell am I going to waste my time and give a press release about whether or not I have a penis? My fans don’t care and neither do I.”

Divine Angel said:

Partly cloudy top of 22, possible showers.

I’m assignment-doing, the other two are going to Dreamworld.

Persisting down here

Hello

Cymek said:

Hello

Yo

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

Partly cloudy top of 22, possible showers.

I’m assignment-doing, the other two are going to Dreamworld.

Persisting down here

Bright and sunny.

Divine Angel said:

Cymek said:

Hello

Yo

Hi.

A pinch and a punch and all that pilgrims.

CHINESE………….chinese boat people……………yellow peril…………chinese boat people
more to come

The Rev Dodgson said:

And talking of Quora browsings, I’m seeing increasingly that people writing about a specific woman swap randomly between using she/her and he/him.

Do people actually do this, or is it a self-reinforcing AI mistake?

I have noticed AI Does swap between pronouns… it’s particularly noticeable in some ‘story’ like posts I have seen recently. The narrator will be doing a recap of a movie, for example, and when talking about the main character will swap the pronouns randomly.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

And talking of Quora browsings, I’m seeing increasingly that people writing about a specific woman swap randomly between using she/her and he/him.

Do people actually do this, or is it a self-reinforcing AI mistake?

What is the name of the specific woman?

But yes, people do swap preferred pronouns. Sometimes it’s an alter-ego, like Lady Gaga/Jo Calderone, sometimes it’s an expression of who they are in any given moment, and sometimes it’s trying to find something to describe how they feel.

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

Perhaps the author is a non English speaker and is unused to gendered pronouns.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

What is the name of the specific woman?

But yes, people do swap preferred pronouns. Sometimes it’s an alter-ego, like Lady Gaga/Jo Calderone, sometimes it’s an expression of who they are in any given moment, and sometimes it’s trying to find something to describe how they feel.

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

Perhaps the author is a non English speaker and is unused to gendered pronouns.

I assume there’s a method to the madness of gendered nouns; how are all dogs male even when they’re female?? Gah

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

What is the name of the specific woman?

But yes, people do swap preferred pronouns. Sometimes it’s an alter-ego, like Lady Gaga/Jo Calderone, sometimes it’s an expression of who they are in any given moment, and sometimes it’s trying to find something to describe how they feel.

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

Rosemary Kennedy was the victim of systemic failures and lack of knowledge. It seems her cognitive disability stems from lack of oxygen at birth, but there may have been other factors as well. For example, if there was autism, it was not at all understood or acknowledged back then.

Obviously, the lobotomy had catastrophic consequences. From what I’ve read (which admittedly isn’t much), her behaviour and cognitive processes regressed to that of a toddler post-lobotomy. In typically-developing children, this is a time where gender identity is shaped by societal expectations and sense of self, so it’s entirely possible Rosemary was exploring gender identity, as well as lacking communication skills, or just not having those neural pathways to know what gender is in the first place.

Again taking Lady Gaga as an example, because I was reminded of this recently, there was a photo taken at a concert where it appeared she had a penis. Rumours and gossip abounded, but when asked, Lady Gaga responded, “Maybe I do? Would it be so terrible?… Why the hell am I going to waste my time and give a press release about whether or not I have a penis? My fans don’t care and neither do I.”

I’m not a fan of Lady Gaga but AFAIC she can wear whatever she likes, and I don’t care what grammar she uses (although her claim that she “doesn’t care whether or not she has a penis” seems improbable :)).

Personally though, like most of the world’s population, I use pronouns in reference to the physical characteristic of sex, not “gender”, which is not a concept I find usefully meaningful.

Should I be expected to subordinate my worldview to that of people opposed to my worldview on such matters? Not at all, any more than I should be expected to subordinate my worldview to the opinions of religious believers.

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

Perhaps the author is a non English speaker and is unused to gendered pronouns.

I assume there’s a method to the madness of gendered nouns; how are all dogs male even when they’re female?? Gah

It’s a bitch of a thing, this language.

Bubblecar said:

Should I be expected to subordinate my worldview to that of people opposed to my worldview on such matters? Not at all, any more than I should be expected to subordinate my worldview to the opinions of religious believers.

Right, you still have to respect that not everyone thinks like you do, and you’re not above anyone else. Just because say, antivaxxers are morons, doesn’t make you superior for thinking that way. Cognitive flexibility is an important skill.

Also I’d like a reference for “most people in the world use pronouns for sex, not gender” thanks.

Roughie,

You still around?

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

What is the name of the specific woman?

But yes, people do swap preferred pronouns. Sometimes it’s an alter-ego, like Lady Gaga/Jo Calderone, sometimes it’s an expression of who they are in any given moment, and sometimes it’s trying to find something to describe how they feel.

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

Rosemary Kennedy was the victim of systemic failures and lack of knowledge. It seems her cognitive disability stems from lack of oxygen at birth, but there may have been other factors as well. For example, if there was autism, it was not at all understood or acknowledged back then.

Obviously, the lobotomy had catastrophic consequences. From what I’ve read (which admittedly isn’t much), her behaviour and cognitive processes regressed to that of a toddler post-lobotomy. In typically-developing children, this is a time where gender identity is shaped by societal expectations and sense of self, so it’s entirely possible Rosemary was exploring gender identity, as well as lacking communication skills, or just not having those neural pathways to know what gender is in the first place.

Again taking Lady Gaga as an example, because I was reminded of this recently, there was a photo taken at a concert where it appeared she had a penis. Rumours and gossip abounded, but when asked, Lady Gaga responded, “Maybe I do? Would it be so terrible?… Why the hell am I going to waste my time and give a press release about whether or not I have a penis? My fans don’t care and neither do I.”

exactly gendered pronouns are such a dying language obsolescence thing anyway

captain_spalding said:

Roughie,

You still around?

Ja.

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

Rosemary Kennedy was the victim of systemic failures and lack of knowledge. It seems her cognitive disability stems from lack of oxygen at birth, but there may have been other factors as well. For example, if there was autism, it was not at all understood or acknowledged back then.

Obviously, the lobotomy had catastrophic consequences. From what I’ve read (which admittedly isn’t much), her behaviour and cognitive processes regressed to that of a toddler post-lobotomy. In typically-developing children, this is a time where gender identity is shaped by societal expectations and sense of self, so it’s entirely possible Rosemary was exploring gender identity, as well as lacking communication skills, or just not having those neural pathways to know what gender is in the first place.

Again taking Lady Gaga as an example, because I was reminded of this recently, there was a photo taken at a concert where it appeared she had a penis. Rumours and gossip abounded, but when asked, Lady Gaga responded, “Maybe I do? Would it be so terrible?… Why the hell am I going to waste my time and give a press release about whether or not I have a penis? My fans don’t care and neither do I.”

I’m not a fan of Lady Gaga but AFAIC she can wear whatever she likes, and I don’t care what grammar she uses (although her claim that she “doesn’t care whether or not she has a penis” seems improbable :)).

Personally though, like most of the world’s population, I use pronouns in reference to the physical characteristic of sex, not “gender”, which is not a concept I find usefully meaningful.

Should I be expected to subordinate my worldview to that of people opposed to my worldview on such matters? Not at all, any more than I should be expected to subordinate my worldview to the opinions of religious believers.

Can we say for most people that its not gender identity that can get them upset but people who are arseholes and use their gender as an excuse.

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Should I be expected to subordinate my worldview to that of people opposed to my worldview on such matters? Not at all, any more than I should be expected to subordinate my worldview to the opinions of religious believers.

Right, you still have to respect that not everyone thinks like you do, and you’re not above anyone else. Just because say, antivaxxers are morons, doesn’t make you superior for thinking that way. Cognitive flexibility is an important skill.

Also I’d like a reference for “most people in the world use pronouns for sex, not gender” thanks.

sure some of that but also we’re going to dig in on the idea that some ideas are more true than other ideas

and pronouns as a linguistic structure relate to gender so using them for sex is less true

captain_spalding said:

Roughie,

You still around?

Are you dissing his diet ?

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

Rosemary Kennedy was the victim of systemic failures and lack of knowledge. It seems her cognitive disability stems from lack of oxygen at birth, but there may have been other factors as well. For example, if there was autism, it was not at all understood or acknowledged back then.

Obviously, the lobotomy had catastrophic consequences. From what I’ve read (which admittedly isn’t much), her behaviour and cognitive processes regressed to that of a toddler post-lobotomy. In typically-developing children, this is a time where gender identity is shaped by societal expectations and sense of self, so it’s entirely possible Rosemary was exploring gender identity, as well as lacking communication skills, or just not having those neural pathways to know what gender is in the first place.

Again taking Lady Gaga as an example, because I was reminded of this recently, there was a photo taken at a concert where it appeared she had a penis. Rumours and gossip abounded, but when asked, Lady Gaga responded, “Maybe I do? Would it be so terrible?… Why the hell am I going to waste my time and give a press release about whether or not I have a penis? My fans don’t care and neither do I.”

I’m not a fan of Lady Gaga but AFAIC she can wear whatever she likes, and I don’t care what grammar she uses (although her claim that she “doesn’t care whether or not she has a penis” seems improbable :)).

Personally though, like most of the world’s population, I use pronouns in reference to the physical characteristic of sex, not “gender”, which is not a concept I find usefully meaningful.

Should I be expected to subordinate my worldview to that of people opposed to my worldview on such matters? Not at all, any more than I should be expected to subordinate my worldview to the opinions of religious believers.

Can we say for most people that its not gender identity that can get them upset but people who are arseholes and use their gender as an excuse.

well yes it’s irrelevant in most interactions so we really don’t care and we go further to say that for someone to care, is less true

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Roughie,

You still around?

Are you dissing his diet ?

or his beer belly?

Aussie bundles Sarina Williams out of Wimbledon in first round.

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Should I be expected to subordinate my worldview to that of people opposed to my worldview on such matters? Not at all, any more than I should be expected to subordinate my worldview to the opinions of religious believers.

Right, you still have to respect that not everyone thinks like you do, and you’re not above anyone else. Just because say, antivaxxers are morons, doesn’t make you superior for thinking that way. Cognitive flexibility is an important skill.

Also I’d like a reference for “most people in the world use pronouns for sex, not gender” thanks.

sure some of that but also we’re going to dig in on the idea that some ideas are more true than other ideas

and pronouns as a linguistic structure relate to gender so using them for sex is less true

Which reminds me, I still haven’t read that thing from uni about autism and gender. Too distracted by the stupid assignment, and the reading wasn’t contextually important to the assignment.

Saw a new (for me) species jumping spider this morning when I went to read the rain gauge.

About 10-12 mm long, with a large, barrel-shaped, abdomen. Long yellow pedipalps. Dominantly a brownish bronze-gold colour with a metallic sheen with black stripes. Rather lovely.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Roughie,

You still around?

Are you dissing his diet ?

or his beer belly?

There you are.

Did you get my email?

Michael V said:

Saw a new (for me) species jumping spider this morning when I went to read the rain gauge.

About 10-12 mm long, with a large, barrel-shaped, abdomen. Long yellow pedipalps. Dominantly a brownish bronze-gold colour with a metallic sheen with black stripes. Rather lovely.

:) love jumping spiders. Had one that kept jumping onto the camera lens whenever I moved close to get a better shot.

Michael V said:

Saw a new (for me) species jumping spider this morning when I went to read the rain gauge.

About 10-12 mm long, with a large, barrel-shaped, abdomen. Long yellow pedipalps. Dominantly a brownish bronze-gold colour with a metallic sheen with black stripes. Rather lovely.

No thank you. You can keep it to yourself.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Saw a new (for me) species jumping spider this morning when I went to read the rain gauge.

About 10-12 mm long, with a large, barrel-shaped, abdomen. Long yellow pedipalps. Dominantly a brownish bronze-gold colour with a metallic sheen with black stripes. Rather lovely.

:) love jumping spiders. Had one that kept jumping onto the camera lens whenever I moved close to get a better shot.

OK now I’m really gone to do something else!!

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Are you dissing his diet ?

or his beer belly?

There you are.

Did you get my email?

Yes and Apple’s preview app opened the files easily. I’ll get a lot of fun with this. :) thanks.

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Should I be expected to subordinate my worldview to that of people opposed to my worldview on such matters? Not at all, any more than I should be expected to subordinate my worldview to the opinions of religious believers.

Right, you still have to respect that not everyone thinks like you do, and you’re not above anyone else. Just because say, antivaxxers are morons, doesn’t make you superior for thinking that way. Cognitive flexibility is an important skill.

Also I’d like a reference for “most people in the world use pronouns for sex, not gender” thanks.

Obviously not everyone thinks like I do, but since I respect science and reason, for example, I do strive to ensure that the views I hold are defensible by the criteria of these disciplined ways of thinking, and I do reject ideas that are not.

Whether antivaxxers are “morons” or not, their views can be dismissed by reference to demonstrable facts. We shouldn’t be required to “respect” ideas and opinions that are clearly not worthy of respect.

As for the “reference” you seek, you’re surely aware that the idea that people should adopt pronouns based on “how they feel”, rather than on their sex, is a very recent notion popular amongst certain Western subcultures, and not widely found outside of that context.

Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Saw a new (for me) species jumping spider this morning when I went to read the rain gauge.

About 10-12 mm long, with a large, barrel-shaped, abdomen. Long yellow pedipalps. Dominantly a brownish bronze-gold colour with a metallic sheen with black stripes. Rather lovely.

:) love jumping spiders. Had one that kept jumping onto the camera lens whenever I moved close to get a better shot.

OK now I’m really gone to do something else!!

oops. Sorry.

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Saw a new (for me) species jumping spider this morning when I went to read the rain gauge.

About 10-12 mm long, with a large, barrel-shaped, abdomen. Long yellow pedipalps. Dominantly a brownish bronze-gold colour with a metallic sheen with black stripes. Rather lovely.

No thank you. You can keep it to yourself.

Sorry. I didn’t intend to trigger you with my thoughtlessness.

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Should I be expected to subordinate my worldview to that of people opposed to my worldview on such matters? Not at all, any more than I should be expected to subordinate my worldview to the opinions of religious believers.

Right, you still have to respect that not everyone thinks like you do, and you’re not above anyone else. Just because say, antivaxxers are morons, doesn’t make you superior for thinking that way. Cognitive flexibility is an important skill.

Also I’d like a reference for “most people in the world use pronouns for sex, not gender” thanks.

I think I’m going to regret mentioning this.

I just thought it was a bit odd, that’s all.

Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Saw a new (for me) species jumping spider this morning when I went to read the rain gauge.

About 10-12 mm long, with a large, barrel-shaped, abdomen. Long yellow pedipalps. Dominantly a brownish bronze-gold colour with a metallic sheen with black stripes. Rather lovely.

:) love jumping spiders. Had one that kept jumping onto the camera lens whenever I moved close to get a better shot.

OK now I’m really gone to do something else!!

SCIENCE said:

and pronouns as a linguistic structure relate to gender so using them for sex is less true

In regard to humans, they traditionally relate to “gender” as a synonym for “sex”.

In the gender debates, you’ll find that the pro-gender side will often “bait & switch” – use “gender” as a synonym for “sex” in some contexts, and not in others.

It’s an easy way to confuse people :)

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Should I be expected to subordinate my worldview to that of people opposed to my worldview on such matters? Not at all, any more than I should be expected to subordinate my worldview to the opinions of religious believers.

Right, you still have to respect that not everyone thinks like you do, and you’re not above anyone else. Just because say, antivaxxers are morons, doesn’t make you superior for thinking that way. Cognitive flexibility is an important skill.

Also I’d like a reference for “most people in the world use pronouns for sex, not gender” thanks.

I think I’m going to regret mentioning this.

I just thought it was a bit odd, that’s all.

so heterosexuality is odd and homosexuality is even

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Should I be expected to subordinate my worldview to that of people opposed to my worldview on such matters? Not at all, any more than I should be expected to subordinate my worldview to the opinions of religious believers.

Right, you still have to respect that not everyone thinks like you do, and you’re not above anyone else. Just because say, antivaxxers are morons, doesn’t make you superior for thinking that way. Cognitive flexibility is an important skill.

Also I’d like a reference for “most people in the world use pronouns for sex, not gender” thanks.

I think I’m going to regret mentioning this.

I just thought it was a bit odd, that’s all.

I just briefly reaffirmed my own stance on these matters – I’m not planning to get into an extended debate/punch-up :)

And anyway, I’m now off to watch this feetball match.

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

Right, you still have to respect that not everyone thinks like you do, and you’re not above anyone else. Just because say, antivaxxers are morons, doesn’t make you superior for thinking that way. Cognitive flexibility is an important skill.

Also I’d like a reference for “most people in the world use pronouns for sex, not gender” thanks.

I think I’m going to regret mentioning this.

I just thought it was a bit odd, that’s all.

so heterosexuality is odd and homosexuality is even

I’m not sure that either sexuality can be divided by 2 or not.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

or his beer belly?

There you are.

Did you get my email?

Yes and Apple’s preview app opened the files easily. I’ll get a lot of fun with this. :) thanks.

Enjoy.

As i say, i have other books which go into hideous amounts of details about all sorts of decorative ropework, but i think that you have good starter material there.

Some web pages that might interest you:

The International Guild of Knot Tyers: https://igkt.net/

Mikko Snelman: https://snellman.ax/about-me

Zen Ropeworks videos on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@zenropeworks

Bubblecar said:

SCIENCE said:

and pronouns as a linguistic structure relate to gender so using them for sex is less true

In regard to humans, they traditionally relate to “gender” as a synonym for “sex”.

In the gender debates, you’ll find that the pro-gender side will often “bait & switch” – use “gender” as a synonym for “sex” in some contexts, and not in others.

It’s an easy way to confuse people :)

well sure, we agree that it’s less true to use “gender” as a synonym for “sex”

but the simple solution is the best and yous can just use ungendered pronouns like we or you

and even better like back on Old Forum how the best of us would use ‘e and ‘e and h’ and h’ and h’ and h’ and kept that shit irrelevant

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I think I’m going to regret mentioning this.

I just thought it was a bit odd, that’s all.

so heterosexuality is odd and homosexuality is even

I’m not sure that either sexuality can be divided by 2 or not.

so you mean all sexgenders are non-binary

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Should I be expected to subordinate my worldview to that of people opposed to my worldview on such matters? Not at all, any more than I should be expected to subordinate my worldview to the opinions of religious believers.

Right, you still have to respect that not everyone thinks like you do, and you’re not above anyone else. Just because say, antivaxxers are morons, doesn’t make you superior for thinking that way. Cognitive flexibility is an important skill.

Also I’d like a reference for “most people in the world use pronouns for sex, not gender” thanks.

Obviously not everyone thinks like I do, but since I respect science and reason, for example, I do strive to ensure that the views I hold are defensible by the criteria of these disciplined ways of thinking, and I do reject ideas that are not.

Whether antivaxxers are “morons” or not, their views can be dismissed by reference to demonstrable facts. We shouldn’t be required to “respect” ideas and opinions that are clearly not worthy of respect.

As for the “reference” you seek, you’re surely aware that the idea that people should adopt pronouns based on “how they feel”, rather than on their sex, is a very recent notion popular amongst certain Western subcultures, and not widely found outside of that context.

The idea of a third gender encapsulating what we would now call queer, non binary and generally gender diverse individuals has been a feature of human culture for thousands of years across many cultural groups.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Political Correctness

How does political correctness differ from ordinary etiquette, and why is it seen as more than just “politeness” to some groups?

Terry Pratchett wrote, “The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.”

“Political correctness” is like “respect.” It’s a word that has multiple meanings, and people with ill intent will do a sort of Three Card Monte sleight-of-hand thing when they use those words, hoping you won’t notice that they’ve switched meanings in the middle of the conversation.

“Respect” can mean “treat with dignity and compassion,” or it can mean “obey.” That’s fine as long as everyone involved in the conversation knows what they mean by the word.

The problem comes when people say “if you don’t respect me, I won’t respect you” when what they mean is “if you don’t obey me, I won’t treat you with dignity and compassion.”

The same exact thing happens with “politically correct.” Politically correct can mean “polite,” or it can mean “in accordance with authoritarian dogma.” Again, not a problem as long as everyone involved knows what they mean.

The problem comes when someone says “oh, I don’t do political correctness, the cult of the politically correct is bullshit,” but what they really mean is “I don’t want to behave with basic courtesy and politeness.” If you challenge them on it, they’ll say “I’m not into rigid dogmatic adherence to authority,” but then when you actually look at their behavior, it becomes clear that what they really mean is “I see no reason to treat others with even a minimum of courtesy.”

Witty Rejoinder said:

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

Right, you still have to respect that not everyone thinks like you do, and you’re not above anyone else. Just because say, antivaxxers are morons, doesn’t make you superior for thinking that way. Cognitive flexibility is an important skill.

Also I’d like a reference for “most people in the world use pronouns for sex, not gender” thanks.

Obviously not everyone thinks like I do, but since I respect science and reason, for example, I do strive to ensure that the views I hold are defensible by the criteria of these disciplined ways of thinking, and I do reject ideas that are not.

Whether antivaxxers are “morons” or not, their views can be dismissed by reference to demonstrable facts. We shouldn’t be required to “respect” ideas and opinions that are clearly not worthy of respect.

As for the “reference” you seek, you’re surely aware that the idea that people should adopt pronouns based on “how they feel”, rather than on their sex, is a very recent notion popular amongst certain Western subcultures, and not widely found outside of that context.

The idea of a third gender encapsulating what we would now call queer, non binary and generally gender diverse individuals has been a feature of human culture for thousands of years across many cultural groups.

Yes, exactly this. Indigenous Australians and Native Americans are two groups that I know of who embrace gender diverse people. Two-spirit is a term that is often used.

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Political Correctness

How does political correctness differ from ordinary etiquette, and why is it seen as more than just “politeness” to some groups?

Terry Pratchett wrote, “The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.”

“Political correctness” is like “respect.” It’s a word that has multiple meanings, and people with ill intent will do a sort of Three Card Monte sleight-of-hand thing when they use those words, hoping you won’t notice that they’ve switched meanings in the middle of the conversation.

“Respect” can mean “treat with dignity and compassion,” or it can mean “obey.” That’s fine as long as everyone involved in the conversation knows what they mean by the word.

The problem comes when people say “if you don’t respect me, I won’t respect you” when what they mean is “if you don’t obey me, I won’t treat you with dignity and compassion.”

The same exact thing happens with “politically correct.” Politically correct can mean “polite,” or it can mean “in accordance with authoritarian dogma.” Again, not a problem as long as everyone involved knows what they mean.

The problem comes when someone says “oh, I don’t do political correctness, the cult of the politically correct is bullshit,” but what they really mean is “I don’t want to behave with basic courtesy and politeness.” If you challenge them on it, they’ll say “I’m not into rigid dogmatic adherence to authority,” but then when you actually look at their behavior, it becomes clear that what they really mean is “I see no reason to treat others with even a minimum of courtesy.”

Hear hear.

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Political Correctness

How does political correctness differ from ordinary etiquette, and why is it seen as more than just “politeness” to some groups?

Terry Pratchett wrote, “The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.”

“Political correctness” is like “respect.” It’s a word that has multiple meanings, and people with ill intent will do a sort of Three Card Monte sleight-of-hand thing when they use those words, hoping you won’t notice that they’ve switched meanings in the middle of the conversation.

“Respect” can mean “treat with dignity and compassion,” or it can mean “obey.” That’s fine as long as everyone involved in the conversation knows what they mean by the word.

The problem comes when people say “if you don’t respect me, I won’t respect you” when what they mean is “if you don’t obey me, I won’t treat you with dignity and compassion.”

The same exact thing happens with “politically correct.” Politically correct can mean “polite,” or it can mean “in accordance with authoritarian dogma.” Again, not a problem as long as everyone involved knows what they mean.

The problem comes when someone says “oh, I don’t do political correctness, the cult of the politically correct is bullshit,” but what they really mean is “I don’t want to behave with basic courtesy and politeness.” If you challenge them on it, they’ll say “I’m not into rigid dogmatic adherence to authority,” but then when you actually look at their behavior, it becomes clear that what they really mean is “I see no reason to treat others with even a minimum of courtesy.”

The state of correctness is based a lot on male domination and it does seem immature men get upset when asked to just be decent.

Bubblecar said:

I respect science and reason, for example, I do strive to ensure that the views I hold are defensible by the criteria of these disciplined ways of thinking, and I do reject ideas that are not.

Oh LOLOL….LOLOL

Remember when you “diagnosed” a stranger on the internet with Narcissistic Personality Disorder when you don’t have the qualifications to do so? How do you defend that?

And before anyone comes for me about his “apology” it was not an apology that referred specifically to NPD.

This cassowary just wanders around the beach, getting surprisingly close to people.

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting/comments/1uk41ui/this_cassowary_just_wanders_around_the_beach/

Sod that!

Anyway…I woke up. Breaking my fast right now.
Not sure if I will be a “fucking idiot” today or not. So many choices, so many decisions. I do need to put some socks on, the Birkenstocks are not enough for my size 41/42 feets. Also my new black hoodie that is mostly perfect, but DOESN’T HAVE POCKETS!!!

kii said:

Anyway…I woke up. Breaking my fast right now.
Not sure if I will be a “fucking idiot” today or not. So many choices, so many decisions. I do need to put some socks on, the Birkenstocks are not enough for my size 41/42 feets. Also my new black hoodie that is mostly perfect, but DOESN’T HAVE POCKETS!!!

That almost defeats the purpose of the hoody, not having pockets.

Cymek said:

kii said:

Anyway…I woke up. Breaking my fast right now.
Not sure if I will be a “fucking idiot” today or not. So many choices, so many decisions. I do need to put some socks on, the Birkenstocks are not enough for my size 41/42 feets. Also my new black hoodie that is mostly perfect, but DOESN’T HAVE POCKETS!!!

That almost defeats the purpose of the hoody, not having pockets.

Right? It’s like who designed this? I want their phone number STAT!!

Now I get why they align with Pauline. It is the orange shirrt.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/canberra-man-pleads-guilty-to-performing-nazi-salutes-in-public/106864404

Spiny Norman said:

This cassowary just wanders around the beach, getting surprisingly close to people.

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting/comments/1uk41ui/this_cassowary_just_wanders_around_the_beach/

Sod that!

!!!

roughbarked said:

Now I get why they align with Pauline. It is the orange shirrt.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/canberra-man-pleads-guilty-to-performing-nazi-salutes-in-public/106864404

Orange shirt? Why do you say that that causes alignment with PH?

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Now I get why they align with Pauline. It is the orange shirrt.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/canberra-man-pleads-guilty-to-performing-nazi-salutes-in-public/106864404

Orange shirt? Why do you say that that causes alignment with PH?

trump is orange and god to PH.

hiren

PRONUNCIATION:
(HY-ruhn)

MEANING:
noun: A seductive woman.

ETYMOLOGY:
After Hiren, a character in the lost play The Turkish Mahomet and Hiren the Fair Greek (1594), attributed to George Peele. The name Hiren is a variant of Irene. Earliest documented use: 1600.

NOTES:
In the story, during the Ottoman sultan Mahomet’s conquest of Constantinople, one of his captains presents him with a young Greek named Hiren. He becomes so besotted with her that he neglects affairs of state. When his adviser complains, Mahomet proves he can master his passions by beheading Hiren. Because, apparently, one cannot rule an empire, wage wars, and love a woman at the same time.

USAGE:
“I summoned all the twenty hirens of the house (including the sweet-lipped, glossy chinned darling) into my resurrected presence.”
Vladimir Nabokov; Ada, or Ardor; McGraw-Hill; 1969.

Supermarketing is done. Been to the bakery with The Pug for a party pie. Bright and sunny, so he got a walk/ride in his chariot today. And look! Now it’s lunchtime!

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

And talking of Quora browsings, I’m seeing increasingly that people writing about a specific woman swap randomly between using she/her and he/him.

Do people actually do this, or is it a self-reinforcing AI mistake?

What is the name of the specific woman?

But yes, people do swap preferred pronouns. Sometimes it’s an alter-ego, like Lady Gaga/Jo Calderone, sometimes it’s an expression of who they are in any given moment, and sometimes it’s trying to find something to describe how they feel.

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

They did her lobotomy because she was high spirited, going out with men at night, dancing, and generally seen as uncontrollable. She had already been sent away to a Catholic boarding school. read a beautifully and well researched piece in The New York Times or same such.

That her mother was there when the procedure was done is so sad and such a betrayal.

The Kennedys did not want any scandals to impact any political ambitions.

The men did drugs and had mistresses, bit apparently that was okay.

Carrollian

PRONUNCIATION:
(kuh-ROH-lee-uhn)

MEANING:
adjective: Fanciful, absurd, logic-twisting, or playfully nonsensical.

ETYMOLOGY:
After Lewis Carroll, pen name of Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (1832-1898), author of Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland (1865). Earliest documented use: 1907.

NOTES:
Alice follows a White Rabbit down a rabbit hole and enters a fantastical world where ordinary logic keeps changing hats.

In theoretical physics, Carrollian describes what the equations predict if the speed of light were to approach zero. Signals could no longer travel from one place to another, and ordinary motion would freeze. Even the White Rabbit would have nowhere to hurry.

USAGE:
“If Joanna Kavenna’s 2016 novel, A Field Guide to Reality, took us down a dreamy, Carrollian rabbit hole, then Zed, her latest, is more post-Orwellian nightmare.”
Sophie Ratcliffe; If Dickens Did Digital Dystopia; The Daily Telegraph (London, UK); Jul 20, 2019.

“There is a Carrollian logical zaniness in this latest work, too.”
Alberto Manguel; I’ll Sell You a Dog by Juan Pablo Villalobos (review); The Guardian (London, UK); Oct 29, 2016.

Cymek said:

Hello

Greetings and hugs Cymek

Peak Warming Man said:

A pinch and a punch and all that pilgrims.

\\//

ms spock said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

What is the name of the specific woman?

But yes, people do swap preferred pronouns. Sometimes it’s an alter-ego, like Lady Gaga/Jo Calderone, sometimes it’s an expression of who they are in any given moment, and sometimes it’s trying to find something to describe how they feel.

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

They did her lobotomy because she was high spirited, going out with men at night, dancing, and generally seen as uncontrollable. She had already been sent away to a Catholic boarding school. read a beautifully and well researched piece in The New York Times or same such.

That her mother was there when the procedure was done is so sad and such a betrayal.

The Kennedys did not want any scandals to impact any political ambitions.

The men did drugs and had mistresses, bit apparently that was okay.

Rosemary’s story breaks my heart. I’ve read that she may have been ND.

Bogsnorkler said:

hiren

PRONUNCIATION:
(HY-ruhn)

MEANING:
noun: A seductive woman.

ETYMOLOGY:
After Hiren, a character in the lost play The Turkish Mahomet and Hiren the Fair Greek (1594), attributed to George Peele. The name Hiren is a variant of Irene. Earliest documented use: 1600.

NOTES:
In the story, during the Ottoman sultan Mahomet’s conquest of Constantinople, one of his captains presents him with a young Greek named Hiren. He becomes so besotted with her that he neglects affairs of state. When his adviser complains, Mahomet proves he can master his passions by beheading Hiren. Because, apparently, one cannot rule an empire, wage wars, and love a woman at the same time.

USAGE:
“I summoned all the twenty hirens of the house (including the sweet-lipped, glossy chinned darling) into my resurrected presence.”
Vladimir Nabokov; Ada, or Ardor; McGraw-Hill; 1969.

This is fascinating. Where do you get these from?

kii said:

ms spock said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

They did her lobotomy because she was high spirited, going out with men at night, dancing, and generally seen as uncontrollable. She had already been sent away to a Catholic boarding school. read a beautifully and well researched piece in The New York Times or same such.

That her mother was there when the procedure was done is so sad and such a betrayal.

The Kennedys did not want any scandals to impact any political ambitions.

The men did drugs and had mistresses, bit apparently that was okay.

Rosemary’s story breaks my heart. I’ve read that she may have been ND.

The Kennedy men are icky regardless of what history thinks of them
Grooming men for political office from when they are young is creepy

Bloody hell. Here I am revising and formatting my assignment, when I get a call from the P&C President. Our VP has resigned. Ok cool, it was expected (by me, the Pres seems surprised even though I mentioned it two months ago).

Much digging through the P&C Constitution, drafting a call-out, adding to the agenda for next meeting and planning for what’s next.

First the treasurer resigned, two weeks after appointment, now the VP. Starting to think it’s us 😅

Cymek said:

kii said:

ms spock said:

They did her lobotomy because she was high spirited, going out with men at night, dancing, and generally seen as uncontrollable. She had already been sent away to a Catholic boarding school. read a beautifully and well researched piece in The New York Times or same such.

That her mother was there when the procedure was done is so sad and such a betrayal.

The Kennedys did not want any scandals to impact any political ambitions.

The men did drugs and had mistresses, bit apparently that was okay.

Rosemary’s story breaks my heart. I’ve read that she may have been ND.

The Kennedy men are icky regardless of what history thinks of them
Grooming men for political office from when they are young is creepy

Barron Trump 2044 🫡

Those smiles 😍 John Farnham and grandson, posted by James Farnham on fb.

Divine Angel said:

Those smiles 😍 John Farnham and grandson, posted by James Farnham on fb.

:)

ms spock said:

Bogsnorkler said:

hiren

PRONUNCIATION:
(HY-ruhn)

MEANING:
noun: A seductive woman.

ETYMOLOGY:
After Hiren, a character in the lost play The Turkish Mahomet and Hiren the Fair Greek (1594), attributed to George Peele. The name Hiren is a variant of Irene. Earliest documented use: 1600.

NOTES:
In the story, during the Ottoman sultan Mahomet’s conquest of Constantinople, one of his captains presents him with a young Greek named Hiren. He becomes so besotted with her that he neglects affairs of state. When his adviser complains, Mahomet proves he can master his passions by beheading Hiren. Because, apparently, one cannot rule an empire, wage wars, and love a woman at the same time.

USAGE:
“I summoned all the twenty hirens of the house (including the sweet-lipped, glossy chinned darling) into my resurrected presence.”
Vladimir Nabokov; Ada, or Ardor; McGraw-Hill; 1969.

This is fascinating. Where do you get these from?

https://wordsmith.org/words/today.html

Link

I get an email daily.

Divine Angel said:

Those smiles 😍 John Farnham and grandson, posted by James Farnham on fb.

Couple of years older than me.

Probably time he retired.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

Those smiles 😍 John Farnham and grandson, posted by James Farnham on fb.

Couple of years older than me.

Probably time he retired.

He has retired. He’s had surgery for oral tumours and can’t really sing in public any more.

kii said:

ms spock said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

They did her lobotomy because she was high spirited, going out with men at night, dancing, and generally seen as uncontrollable. She had already been sent away to a Catholic boarding school. read a beautifully and well researched piece in The New York Times or same such.

That her mother was there when the procedure was done is so sad and such a betrayal.

The Kennedys did not want any scandals to impact any political ambitions.

The men did drugs and had mistresses, bit apparently that was okay.

Rosemary’s story breaks my heart. I’ve read that she may have been ND.

You may have read to a greater depth than I have. The reason I have read about for her lobotomy was because even when they shifted her off to a Catholic boarding school she kept going out at night. The nuns got annoyed with her. The lobotomy was to make her a more compliant version of womanhood. She was a party person who had sex men. Being promiscuous is not okay for women. But fine for men.

This was still happening in the 1970s in Australia. I went to a Queer Film Festival and they had an interview with a lesbian who received a lobotomy for being a lesbian. It was a disturbing documentary.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

Those smiles 😍 John Farnham and grandson, posted by James Farnham on fb.

Couple of years older than me.

Probably time he retired.

Haven’t seen a current pic of Johnny for ages. He seems to have aged a bit in that time.

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

Those smiles 😍 John Farnham and grandson, posted by James Farnham on fb.

Couple of years older than me.

Probably time he retired.

He has retired. He’s had surgery for oral tumours and can’t really sing in public any more.

Still sings in the shower, apparently. Good for him.

Bogsnorkler said:

ms spock said:

Bogsnorkler said:

hiren

PRONUNCIATION:
(HY-ruhn)

MEANING:
noun: A seductive woman.

ETYMOLOGY:
After Hiren, a character in the lost play The Turkish Mahomet and Hiren the Fair Greek (1594), attributed to George Peele. The name Hiren is a variant of Irene. Earliest documented use: 1600.

NOTES:
In the story, during the Ottoman sultan Mahomet’s conquest of Constantinople, one of his captains presents him with a young Greek named Hiren. He becomes so besotted with her that he neglects affairs of state. When his adviser complains, Mahomet proves he can master his passions by beheading Hiren. Because, apparently, one cannot rule an empire, wage wars, and love a woman at the same time.

USAGE:
“I summoned all the twenty hirens of the house (including the sweet-lipped, glossy chinned darling) into my resurrected presence.”
Vladimir Nabokov; Ada, or Ardor; McGraw-Hill; 1969.

This is fascinating. Where do you get these from?

https://wordsmith.org/words/today.html

Link

I get an email daily.

Cool! I get an Irish language one, which is similar, daily.

Divine Angel said:

Bloody hell. Here I am revising and formatting my assignment, when I get a call from the P&C President. Our VP has resigned. Ok cool, it was expected (by me, the Pres seems surprised even though I mentioned it two months ago).

Much digging through the P&C Constitution, drafting a call-out, adding to the agenda for next meeting and planning for what’s next.

First the treasurer resigned, two weeks after appointment, now the VP. Starting to think it’s us 😅

Were no cakes available? 😅

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Now I get why they align with Pauline. It is the orange shirrt.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/canberra-man-pleads-guilty-to-performing-nazi-salutes-in-public/106864404

Orange shirt? Why do you say that that causes alignment with PH?

Brown shirts.

Divine Angel said:

Those smiles 😍 John Farnham and grandson, posted by James Farnham on fb.

He’s getting on a bit.

Bogsnorkler said:

ms spock said:

Bogsnorkler said:

hiren

PRONUNCIATION:
(HY-ruhn)

MEANING:
noun: A seductive woman.

ETYMOLOGY:
After Hiren, a character in the lost play The Turkish Mahomet and Hiren the Fair Greek (1594), attributed to George Peele. The name Hiren is a variant of Irene. Earliest documented use: 1600.

NOTES:
In the story, during the Ottoman sultan Mahomet’s conquest of Constantinople, one of his captains presents him with a young Greek named Hiren. He becomes so besotted with her that he neglects affairs of state. When his adviser complains, Mahomet proves he can master his passions by beheading Hiren. Because, apparently, one cannot rule an empire, wage wars, and love a woman at the same time.

USAGE:
“I summoned all the twenty hirens of the house (including the sweet-lipped, glossy chinned darling) into my resurrected presence.”
Vladimir Nabokov; Ada, or Ardor; McGraw-Hill; 1969.

This is fascinating. Where do you get these from?

https://wordsmith.org/words/today.html

Link

I get an email daily.

So Trump was filmed with very young hirens in Russa?

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Now I get why they align with Pauline. It is the orange shirrt.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/canberra-man-pleads-guilty-to-performing-nazi-salutes-in-public/106864404

Orange shirt? Why do you say that that causes alignment with PH?

Brown shirts.

I associate it with corrupt unions who agree with Pauline’s stance of white boyz first

ms spock said:

Bogsnorkler said:

ms spock said:

This is fascinating. Where do you get these from?

https://wordsmith.org/words/today.html

Link

I get an email daily.

Cool! I get an Irish language one, which is similar, daily.

Link?

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Orange shirt? Why do you say that that causes alignment with PH?

Brown shirts.

I associate it with corrupt unions who agree with Pauline’s stance of white boyz first

Employees of Gina’s

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Now I get why they align with Pauline. It is the orange shirrt.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/canberra-man-pleads-guilty-to-performing-nazi-salutes-in-public/106864404

Orange shirt? Why do you say that that causes alignment with PH?

Brown shirts.

Equating people who wear high-visibility safety clothes with Hitler’s henchmen is kind of strange. I was required to wear Hi-Vis clothing at many workplaces. I agreed with the reasoning. I am neither a Hitler nor a Pauline Hanson supporter.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Brown shirts.

I associate it with corrupt unions who agree with Pauline’s stance of white boyz first

Employees of Gina’s

That’s an assumption but somewhat true.
The powerful unions infiltrated by organised crime and somewhat fascist in nature, if you aren’t with us you’re against us.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Orange shirt? Why do you say that that causes alignment with PH?

Brown shirts.

Equating people who wear high-visibility safety clothes with Hitler’s henchmen is kind of strange. I was required to wear Hi-Vis clothing at many workplaces. I agreed with the reasoning. I am neither a Hitler nor a Pauline Hanson supporter.

Yes but many who do wear the hi-vis only do it because they can’t keep a job if they don’t.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Orange shirt? Why do you say that that causes alignment with PH?

Brown shirts.

Equating people who wear high-visibility safety clothes with Hitler’s henchmen is kind of strange. I was required to wear Hi-Vis clothing at many workplaces. I agreed with the reasoning. I am neither a Hitler nor a Pauline Hanson supporter.

I wear hi vis on playground duty. Mine’s pink. I do not support right wing ideology either. I’s confuzzled.

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

I associate it with corrupt unions who agree with Pauline’s stance of white boyz first

Employees of Gina’s

That’s an assumption but somewhat true.
The powerful unions infiltrated by organised crime and somewhat fascist in nature, if you aren’t with us you’re against us.

I do recall plumbers working in Canberra at the time told me that their boss said if they didn’t vote Liberal, they’d. lose their jobs. I told them that was both illegal and incorrect.

Gina has put a lot of money behind the orange of Pauliine’s.

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Brown shirts.

Equating people who wear high-visibility safety clothes with Hitler’s henchmen is kind of strange. I was required to wear Hi-Vis clothing at many workplaces. I agreed with the reasoning. I am neither a Hitler nor a Pauline Hanson supporter.

I wear hi vis on playground duty. Mine’s pink. I do not support right wing ideology either. I’s confuzzled.

:) the yellow hi-vis are more hi-vis than the orange. The pink ahould be as well.

Electric bikes again. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/reynella-motorcyclist-doing-wheelie-crashes-into-car/106864902

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Brown shirts.

Equating people who wear high-visibility safety clothes with Hitler’s henchmen is kind of strange. I was required to wear Hi-Vis clothing at many workplaces. I agreed with the reasoning. I am neither a Hitler nor a Pauline Hanson supporter.

I wear hi vis on playground duty. Mine’s pink. I do not support right wing ideology either. I’s confuzzled.

I thought it rather sexist that pink Hi-Vis was only available in women’s sizes and cuts. The colour was unavailable in my size.

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

Those smiles 😍 John Farnham and grandson, posted by James Farnham on fb.

Couple of years older than me.

Probably time he retired.

He has retired. He’s had surgery for oral tumours and can’t really sing in public any more.

You know I was joking, right?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Couple of years older than me.

Probably time he retired.

He has retired. He’s had surgery for oral tumours and can’t really sing in public any more.

You know I was joking, right?

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Equating people who wear high-visibility safety clothes with Hitler’s henchmen is kind of strange. I was required to wear Hi-Vis clothing at many workplaces. I agreed with the reasoning. I am neither a Hitler nor a Pauline Hanson supporter.

I wear hi vis on playground duty. Mine’s pink. I do not support right wing ideology either. I’s confuzzled.

I thought it rather sexist that pink Hi-Vis was only available in women’s sizes and cuts. The colour was unavailable in my size.

The bastids.

Fair fa’ your honest, sonsie face,
Great Chieftain o’ the Puddin-race!
Aboon them a’ ye tak your place,
Painch, tripe, or thairm:
Weel are ye wordy of a grace
As lang ‘s my arm.

The first verse of An Address to a Haggis by Robbie Burns.
I think he may have had too many drams.

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Equating people who wear high-visibility safety clothes with Hitler’s henchmen is kind of strange. I was required to wear Hi-Vis clothing at many workplaces. I agreed with the reasoning. I am neither a Hitler nor a Pauline Hanson supporter.

I wear hi vis on playground duty. Mine’s pink. I do not support right wing ideology either. I’s confuzzled.

I thought it rather sexist that pink Hi-Vis was only available in women’s sizes and cuts. The colour was unavailable in my size.

🤷🏻‍♀️ I got what I was given. There’s also yellow and orange hi-vis at school.

Peak Warming Man said:

Fair fa’ your honest, sonsie face,
Great Chieftain o’ the Puddin-race!
Aboon them a’ ye tak your place,
Painch, tripe, or thairm:
Weel are ye wordy of a grace
As lang ‘s my arm.

The first verse of An Address to a Haggis by Robbie Burns.
I think he may have had too many drams.

It was a lonely evening in Robbie’s wee hoose.

Today, I have noticed that Go-ogle no longer returns exact text when one searches using inverted commas.

Is there any way of getting that feature back?

Or has it been eliminated now the AI responses have taken over?

Michael V said:

Today, I have noticed that Go-ogle no longer returns exact text when one searches using inverted commas.

Is there any way of getting that feature back?

Or has it been eliminated now the AI responses have taken over?

Still seems to work for me.

Oh, nearly forgot.

A pinch and a beer
For the new financial year!

Now I gotta do my taxes ☹️

Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

Today, I have noticed that Go-ogle no longer returns exact text when one searches using inverted commas.

Is there any way of getting that feature back?

Or has it been eliminated now the AI responses have taken over?

Still seems to work for me.

Depending on your browser, there are settings to turn off to stop AI from interfering.

Kingy said:

Oh, nearly forgot.

A pinch and a beer
For the new financial year!

Now I gotta do my taxes ☹️

This is the norm? When as a business, all of this is recorded anyway.

Michael V said:

Today, I have noticed that Go-ogle no longer returns exact text when one searches using inverted commas.

Is there any way of getting that feature back?

Or has it been eliminated now the AI responses have taken over?

You could always do a binge instead :)

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Today, I have noticed that Go-ogle no longer returns exact text when one searches using inverted commas.

Is there any way of getting that feature back?

Or has it been eliminated now the AI responses have taken over?

You could always do a binge instead :)

Isn’t Duck browser better?

Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

Today, I have noticed that Go-ogle no longer returns exact text when one searches using inverted commas.

Is there any way of getting that feature back?

Or has it been eliminated now the AI responses have taken over?

Still seems to work for me.

Hmmm.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Today, I have noticed that Go-ogle no longer returns exact text when one searches using inverted commas.

Is there any way of getting that feature back?

Or has it been eliminated now the AI responses have taken over?

You could always do a binge instead :)

Isn’t Duck browser better?

I have no idea.

They are just browsers anyway.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

You could always do a binge instead :)

Isn’t Duck browser better?

I have no idea.

They are just browsers anyway.

Duck doesn’t seem to do much else other than to stop the ad trackers follow you

Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

Today, I have noticed that Go-ogle no longer returns exact text when one searches using inverted commas.

Is there any way of getting that feature back?

Or has it been eliminated now the AI responses have taken over?

Still seems to work for me.

Just did a quick check and it still seems to work for me too.

There was an AI summary up the top, but under that just exact matches.

yesterday arvo

Coming up

Michael V said:

Today, I have noticed that Go-ogle no longer returns exact text when one searches using inverted commas.

Is there any way of getting that feature back?

Or has it been eliminated now the AI responses have taken over?

Not sure, as I use DuckDuckGo as my search engine. If for no other reason than they don’t track you & record your queries.

Spiny Norman said:

Michael V said:

Today, I have noticed that Go-ogle no longer returns exact text when one searches using inverted commas.

Is there any way of getting that feature back?

Or has it been eliminated now the AI responses have taken over?

Not sure, as I use DuckDuckGo as my search engine. If for no other reason than they don’t track you & record your queries.

That’s probably what reddit doesn’t like about you?

Time to head off for archery. It’s been getting gustier in the last hour or so, pushing into the 60s now. But archery is indoor, so that’s all right.

buffy said:

Time to head off for archery. It’s been getting gustier in the last hour or so, pushing into the 60s now. But archery is indoor, so that’s all right.

Happy arching.

Weather here now.ow

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Time to head off for archery. It’s been getting gustier in the last hour or so, pushing into the 60s now. But archery is indoor, so that’s all right.

Happy arching.

Weather here now.ow

And you are sending it our way I see.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Time to head off for archery. It’s been getting gustier in the last hour or so, pushing into the 60s now. But archery is indoor, so that’s all right.

Happy arching.

Weather here now.ow

And you are sending it our way I see.

It has to end up somewhere. It goes past here. Sometimes slowly but mostly quite quickly.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Happy arching.

Weather here now.ow

And you are sending it our way I see.

It has to end up somewhere. It goes past here. Sometimes slowly but mostly quite quickly.

Today, a bit slowly.

Think I’ll chuck a buffy and see Esther before dinner.

>>The British royal family has found itself in the middle of a heated debate after its social media account shared a photo of Queen Camilla with author J.K. Rowling.
The best-selling writer, who created the hugely popular Harry Potter series, was hosted in Scotland by the queen, supporting her initiative to get more children reading.

The Queen, associating with…………..with this evil…………this evil creature,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://wordsmith.org/words/today.html

Link

I get an email daily.

Cool! I get an Irish language one, which is similar, daily.

Link?

You can join up for free. I can’t remember signing up. But I must have at some point.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Today, I have noticed that Go-ogle no longer returns exact text when one searches using inverted commas.

Is there any way of getting that feature back?

Or has it been eliminated now the AI responses have taken over?

You could always do a binge instead :)

Isn’t Duck browser better?

🍀💚🍀

Crichtonism

PRONUNCIATION:
(KRY-tuh-niz-uhm)

MEANING:
noun: Extraordinary accomplishment in many fields.

ETYMOLOGY:
After James Crichton (1560-1582), a Scottish scholar, linguist, debater, and man of letters whose reputation for wide-ranging brilliance led to the epithet the Admirable Crichton. Earliest documented use: 1850.

NOTES:
James Crichton was a young Scot with a reputation as a polymath, or polyhistor. He is said to have entered college at 10 and taken both bachelor’s and master’s degrees by 14 or 15.

Accounts credited him with a dazzling range of accomplishments, including medicine, law, astronomy, arms, horsemanship, philosophy, music, and debate.

According to the writer Sir Thomas Urquhart, Crichton issued a challenge in Paris to answer questions in “any science, liberal art, discipline, or faculty, whether practical or theoretic”.

Maybe, I thought.

But when I read that he offered to answer any question in any field in 12 languages, my bullshit detector went into overdrive. Sure, Jan.

Let’s just say Urquhart’s account of the Admirable Crichton was a bit embellished. And by a bit, I mean he turned a talented polymath into a Renaissance superhero.

USAGE:
“Zuleika Dobson typifies the irreverent deflation of the myth of Crichtonism which was prevalent at the turn of the century.”
Mortimer R. Proctor; The English University Novel; University of California Press; 1957.

“ was a brilliant light at Oxford, and came over to illumine our darkness, and if pedantry could only supply the deficiency in the potato crop, he would be a providence to the land. His affectation is to know everything … His failures in these attempts at Admirable Crichtonism would abash even confidence great as his.”
Charles Lever; Roland Cashel; Chapman and Hall; 1850.

Bogsnorkler said:

Crichtonism

PRONUNCIATION:
(KRY-tuh-niz-uhm)

MEANING:
noun: Extraordinary accomplishment in many fields.

ETYMOLOGY:
After James Crichton (1560-1582), a Scottish scholar, linguist, debater, and man of letters whose reputation for wide-ranging brilliance led to the epithet the Admirable Crichton. Earliest documented use: 1850.

NOTES:
James Crichton was a young Scot with a reputation as a polymath, or polyhistor. He is said to have entered college at 10 and taken both bachelor’s and master’s degrees by 14 or 15.

Accounts credited him with a dazzling range of accomplishments, including medicine, law, astronomy, arms, horsemanship, philosophy, music, and debate.

According to the writer Sir Thomas Urquhart, Crichton issued a challenge in Paris to answer questions in “any science, liberal art, discipline, or faculty, whether practical or theoretic”.

Maybe, I thought.

But when I read that he offered to answer any question in any field in 12 languages, my bullshit detector went into overdrive. Sure, Jan.

Let’s just say Urquhart’s account of the Admirable Crichton was a bit embellished. And by a bit, I mean he turned a talented polymath into a Renaissance superhero.

USAGE:
“Zuleika Dobson typifies the irreverent deflation of the myth of Crichtonism which was prevalent at the turn of the century.”
Mortimer R. Proctor; The English University Novel; University of California Press; 1957.

“ was a brilliant light at Oxford, and came over to illumine our darkness, and if pedantry could only supply the deficiency in the potato crop, he would be a providence to the land. His affectation is to know everything … His failures in these attempts at Admirable Crichtonism would abash even confidence great as his.”
Charles Lever; Roland Cashel; Chapman and Hall; 1850.

What’s the antonym?

DA have you used the ninja slushie thing yet?

Arts said:

DA have you used the ninja slushie thing yet?

Several times.

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

DA have you used the ninja slushie thing yet?

Several times.

verdict?

Bogsnorkler said:

Crichtonism

PRONUNCIATION:
(KRY-tuh-niz-uhm)

MEANING:
noun: Extraordinary accomplishment in many fields.

ETYMOLOGY:
After James Crichton (1560-1582), a Scottish scholar, linguist, debater, and man of letters whose reputation for wide-ranging brilliance led to the epithet the Admirable Crichton. Earliest documented use: 1850.

NOTES:
James Crichton was a young Scot with a reputation as a polymath, or polyhistor. He is said to have entered college at 10 and taken both bachelor’s and master’s degrees by 14 or 15.

Accounts credited him with a dazzling range of accomplishments, including medicine, law, astronomy, arms, horsemanship, philosophy, music, and debate.

According to the writer Sir Thomas Urquhart, Crichton issued a challenge in Paris to answer questions in “any science, liberal art, discipline, or faculty, whether practical or theoretic”.

Maybe, I thought.

But when I read that he offered to answer any question in any field in 12 languages, my bullshit detector went into overdrive. Sure, Jan.

Let’s just say Urquhart’s account of the Admirable Crichton was a bit embellished. And by a bit, I mean he turned a talented polymath into a Renaissance superhero.

USAGE:
“Zuleika Dobson typifies the irreverent deflation of the myth of Crichtonism which was prevalent at the turn of the century.”
Mortimer R. Proctor; The English University Novel; University of California Press; 1957.

“ was a brilliant light at Oxford, and came over to illumine our darkness, and if pedantry could only supply the deficiency in the potato crop, he would be a providence to the land. His affectation is to know everything … His failures in these attempts at Admirable Crichtonism would abash even confidence great as his.”
Charles Lever; Roland Cashel; Chapman and Hall; 1850.

And the message for all of us is:

Never get involved with the ex-mistress of an Italian prince. (see TATE article for more details of why)

Bogsnorkler said:

Crichtonism

PRONUNCIATION:
(KRY-tuh-niz-uhm)

MEANING:
noun: Extraordinary accomplishment in many fields.

ETYMOLOGY:
After James Crichton (1560-1582), a Scottish scholar, linguist, debater, and man of letters whose reputation for wide-ranging brilliance led to the epithet the Admirable Crichton. Earliest documented use: 1850.

NOTES:
James Crichton was a young Scot with a reputation as a polymath, or polyhistor. He is said to have entered college at 10 and taken both bachelor’s and master’s degrees by 14 or 15.

Accounts credited him with a dazzling range of accomplishments, including medicine, law, astronomy, arms, horsemanship, philosophy, music, and debate.

According to the writer Sir Thomas Urquhart, Crichton issued a challenge in Paris to answer questions in “any science, liberal art, discipline, or faculty, whether practical or theoretic”.

Maybe, I thought.

But when I read that he offered to answer any question in any field in 12 languages, my bullshit detector went into overdrive. Sure, Jan.

Let’s just say Urquhart’s account of the Admirable Crichton was a bit embellished. And by a bit, I mean he turned a talented polymath into a Renaissance superhero.

USAGE:
“Zuleika Dobson typifies the irreverent deflation of the myth of Crichtonism which was prevalent at the turn of the century.”
Mortimer R. Proctor; The English University Novel; University of California Press; 1957.

“ was a brilliant light at Oxford, and came over to illumine our darkness, and if pedantry could only supply the deficiency in the potato crop, he would be a providence to the land. His affectation is to know everything … His failures in these attempts at Admirable Crichtonism would abash even confidence great as his.”
Charles Lever; Roland Cashel; Chapman and Hall; 1850.

The Admirable Crichton was a movie.

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

DA have you used the ninja slushie thing yet?

Several times.

verdict?

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

Divine Angel said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Crichtonism

PRONUNCIATION:
(KRY-tuh-niz-uhm)

MEANING:
noun: Extraordinary accomplishment in many fields.

ETYMOLOGY:
After James Crichton (1560-1582), a Scottish scholar, linguist, debater, and man of letters whose reputation for wide-ranging brilliance led to the epithet the Admirable Crichton. Earliest documented use: 1850.

NOTES:
James Crichton was a young Scot with a reputation as a polymath, or polyhistor. He is said to have entered college at 10 and taken both bachelor’s and master’s degrees by 14 or 15.

Accounts credited him with a dazzling range of accomplishments, including medicine, law, astronomy, arms, horsemanship, philosophy, music, and debate.

According to the writer Sir Thomas Urquhart, Crichton issued a challenge in Paris to answer questions in “any science, liberal art, discipline, or faculty, whether practical or theoretic”.

Maybe, I thought.

But when I read that he offered to answer any question in any field in 12 languages, my bullshit detector went into overdrive. Sure, Jan.

Let’s just say Urquhart’s account of the Admirable Crichton was a bit embellished. And by a bit, I mean he turned a talented polymath into a Renaissance superhero.

USAGE:
“Zuleika Dobson typifies the irreverent deflation of the myth of Crichtonism which was prevalent at the turn of the century.”
Mortimer R. Proctor; The English University Novel; University of California Press; 1957.

“ was a brilliant light at Oxford, and came over to illumine our darkness, and if pedantry could only supply the deficiency in the potato crop, he would be a providence to the land. His affectation is to know everything … His failures in these attempts at Admirable Crichtonism would abash even confidence great as his.”
Charles Lever; Roland Cashel; Chapman and Hall; 1850.

What’s the antonym?

pretty sure one can find 12 very similar langwiches

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

Several times.

verdict?

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

cool ta.. I went to costco today and saw one and told my husband that we probably need one… he did not agree so it was put to a family vote and he did not win, so I have one sitting still in the box in my car… and right now I am drinking an unfrozen pepsi max.

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

verdict?

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

cool ta.. I went to costco today and saw one and told my husband that we probably need one… he did not agree so it was put to a family vote and he did not win, so I have one sitting still in the box in my car… and right now I am drinking an unfrozen pepsi max.

I hope you got the discounted price, it was $170 off last weekend.

There’s tons of recipes online. If you want to make zero-sugar slushies, you’ll need erythritol. We used it for caffeine-free, zero sugar cola slushies and it worked a treat.

So far my fave is chocolate milk on milkshake setting. Strangely enough the milkshake setting is more like a frappe than the frappe setting 🤷🏻‍♀️

Don’t use orange soft drink or juice, it’ll stain.

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Equating people who wear high-visibility safety clothes with Hitler’s henchmen is kind of strange. I was required to wear Hi-Vis clothing at many workplaces. I agreed with the reasoning. I am neither a Hitler nor a Pauline Hanson supporter.

I wear hi vis on playground duty. Mine’s pink. I do not support right wing ideology either. I’s confuzzled.

I thought it rather sexist that pink Hi-Vis was only available in women’s sizes and cuts. The colour was unavailable in my size.

Your cutting edge fashion was cut down at the knees.

I was panicking that my laptop wouldn’t handle the safe browser BS that uni wanted me to use for the presentation assessment. I’ve run it a few times and it’s crashed, but seemed stable enough the last time, but would it handle 20 minutes??

Anyway just got an email saying they’re having tech issues on their end, all sessions will now run over Zoom. I know my lappy can handle Zoom. Phew!

Divine Angel said:

I was panicking that my laptop wouldn’t handle the safe browser BS that uni wanted me to use for the presentation assessment. I’ve run it a few times and it’s crashed, but seemed stable enough the last time, but would it handle 20 minutes??

Anyway just got an email saying they’re having tech issues on their end, all sessions will now run over Zoom. I know my lappy can handle Zoom. Phew!

LOL @ not invented here antipattern

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

cool ta.. I went to costco today and saw one and told my husband that we probably need one… he did not agree so it was put to a family vote and he did not win, so I have one sitting still in the box in my car… and right now I am drinking an unfrozen pepsi max.

I hope you got the discounted price, it was $170 off last weekend.

There’s tons of recipes online. If you want to make zero-sugar slushies, you’ll need erythritol. We used it for caffeine-free, zero sugar cola slushies and it worked a treat.

So far my fave is chocolate milk on milkshake setting. Strangely enough the milkshake setting is more like a frappe than the frappe setting 🤷🏻‍♀️

Don’t use orange soft drink or juice, it’ll stain.

yes it was discounted. and thanks for the tips :)

Divine Angel said:

I was panicking that my laptop wouldn’t handle the safe browser BS that uni wanted me to use for the presentation assessment. I’ve run it a few times and it’s crashed, but seemed stable enough the last time, but would it handle 20 minutes??

Anyway just got an email saying they’re having tech issues on their end, all sessions will now run over Zoom. I know my lappy can handle Zoom. Phew!

That’s good

Peak Warming Man said:

>>The British royal family has found itself in the middle of a heated debate after its social media account shared a photo of Queen Camilla with author J.K. Rowling.
The best-selling writer, who created the hugely popular Harry Potter series, was hosted in Scotland by the queen, supporting her initiative to get more children reading.

The Queen, associating with…………..with this evil…………this evil creature,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Hard to tell who’s been demonised more over the years

my workplace has moved over to a system called respondus, where we “as Unit coordinators, have to up load the exam and the exams team transfer it to the respondus platform.

They were meant to introduce it for semester 1 (exams have just finished) but the middle east issue earlier this year meant they rolled it out early for students at out Dubai campus (who run with different semester structures) since many of them returned ‘home’ and they switched to online learning.. so I think that helped to iron out a lot of the initial issues.

A couple of my colleagues are complaining about all the ‘extra’ work because now we have to upload exams as a quiz for them to be transferred over… it’s not that difficult and, quite frankly, it’s their job… they can – if they choose to – administer their own exams, do the room bookings, the printing, the communicating to the students, and the invigilating .. but that would also mean they have to cater to the students who have to do their exams online due to living >100kms away anyway, so I don’t know what their problem is.

Arts said:

my workplace has moved over to a system called respondus, where we “as Unit coordinators, have to up load the exam and the exams team transfer it to the respondus platform.

They were meant to introduce it for semester 1 (exams have just finished) but the middle east issue earlier this year meant they rolled it out early for students at out Dubai campus (who run with different semester structures) since many of them returned ‘home’ and they switched to online learning.. so I think that helped to iron out a lot of the initial issues.

A couple of my colleagues are complaining about all the ‘extra’ work because now we have to upload exams as a quiz for them to be transferred over… it’s not that difficult and, quite frankly, it’s their job… they can – if they choose to – administer their own exams, do the room bookings, the printing, the communicating to the students, and the invigilating .. but that would also mean they have to cater to the students who have to do their exams online due to living >100kms away anyway, so I don’t know what their problem is.

All my uni has been online and I’ve definitely had online exams, and two invigilated ones at Doomben racetrack lol. Doesn’t seem too hard to upload everything onto a ready-made platform.

Off topic but… A friend who works in high school admin attended a conference this week. One of the talks was about AI; apparently the govt has approved ChatGPT and Corella for school use. The talk was about the environmental cost of utilising such programs.

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

cool ta.. I went to costco today and saw one and told my husband that we probably need one… he did not agree so it was put to a family vote and he did not win, so I have one sitting still in the box in my car… and right now I am drinking an unfrozen pepsi max.

I hope you got the discounted price, it was $170 off last weekend.

There’s tons of recipes online. If you want to make zero-sugar slushies, you’ll need erythritol. We used it for caffeine-free, zero sugar cola slushies and it worked a treat.

So far my fave is chocolate milk on milkshake setting. Strangely enough the milkshake setting is more like a frappe than the frappe setting 🤷🏻‍♀️

Don’t use orange soft drink or juice, it’ll stain.

yes it was discounted. and thanks for the tips :)

I just watched a young man with AFRID trying mustard flavoured soda and spicy pickle flavoured soda.

Try these!

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1915fBL67K/

Bogsnorkler said:

ms spock said:

Bogsnorkler said:

hiren

PRONUNCIATION:
(HY-ruhn)

MEANING:
noun: A seductive woman.

ETYMOLOGY:
After Hiren, a character in the lost play The Turkish Mahomet and Hiren the Fair Greek (1594), attributed to George Peele. The name Hiren is a variant of Irene. Earliest documented use: 1600.

NOTES:
In the story, during the Ottoman sultan Mahomet’s conquest of Constantinople, one of his captains presents him with a young Greek named Hiren. He becomes so besotted with her that he neglects affairs of state. When his adviser complains, Mahomet proves he can master his passions by beheading Hiren. Because, apparently, one cannot rule an empire, wage wars, and love a woman at the same time.

USAGE:
“I summoned all the twenty hirens of the house (including the sweet-lipped, glossy chinned darling) into my resurrected presence.”
Vladimir Nabokov; Ada, or Ardor; McGraw-Hill; 1969.

This is fascinating. Where do you get these from?

https://wordsmith.org/words/today.html

Link

I get an email daily.

Thanks

kii said:

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

I hope you got the discounted price, it was $170 off last weekend.

There’s tons of recipes online. If you want to make zero-sugar slushies, you’ll need erythritol. We used it for caffeine-free, zero sugar cola slushies and it worked a treat.

So far my fave is chocolate milk on milkshake setting. Strangely enough the milkshake setting is more like a frappe than the frappe setting 🤷🏻‍♀️

Don’t use orange soft drink or juice, it’ll stain.

yes it was discounted. and thanks for the tips :)

I just watched a young man with AFRID trying mustard flavoured soda and spicy pickle flavoured soda.

Try these!

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1915fBL67K/

Hey kii, talk about serendipity – picked up a copy of La Grande Bouffe on DVD today :-)

Neophyte said:

kii said:

Arts said:

yes it was discounted. and thanks for the tips :)

I just watched a young man with AFRID trying mustard flavoured soda and spicy pickle flavoured soda.

Try these!

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1915fBL67K/

Hey kii, talk about serendipity – picked up a copy of La Grande Bouffe on DVD today :-)

Cool! Enjoy. I particularly liked the boobs dessert scene.

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

my workplace has moved over to a system called respondus, where we “as Unit coordinators, have to up load the exam and the exams team transfer it to the respondus platform.

They were meant to introduce it for semester 1 (exams have just finished) but the middle east issue earlier this year meant they rolled it out early for students at out Dubai campus (who run with different semester structures) since many of them returned ‘home’ and they switched to online learning.. so I think that helped to iron out a lot of the initial issues.

A couple of my colleagues are complaining about all the ‘extra’ work because now we have to upload exams as a quiz for them to be transferred over… it’s not that difficult and, quite frankly, it’s their job… they can – if they choose to – administer their own exams, do the room bookings, the printing, the communicating to the students, and the invigilating .. but that would also mean they have to cater to the students who have to do their exams online due to living >100kms away anyway, so I don’t know what their problem is.

All my uni has been online and I’ve definitely had online exams, and two invigilated ones at Doomben racetrack lol. Doesn’t seem too hard to upload everything onto a ready-made platform.

Off topic but… A friend who works in high school admin attended a conference this week. One of the talks was about AI; apparently the govt has approved ChatGPT and Corella for school use. The talk was about the environmental cost of utilising such programs.

That’s not surprising… I keep telling people it’s not going away we need to adapt… but does anyone listen to me?

No, the answer is no.

kii said:

Neophyte said:

kii said:

I just watched a young man with AFRID trying mustard flavoured soda and spicy pickle flavoured soda.

Try these!

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1915fBL67K/

Hey kii, talk about serendipity – picked up a copy of La Grande Bouffe on DVD today :-)

Cool! Enjoy. I particularly liked the boobs dessert scene.

A movie buff I know is culling his DVD collection – also grabbed some other arthouse favourites – El Topo & The Holy Moutain

kii said:

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

I hope you got the discounted price, it was $170 off last weekend.

There’s tons of recipes online. If you want to make zero-sugar slushies, you’ll need erythritol. We used it for caffeine-free, zero sugar cola slushies and it worked a treat.

So far my fave is chocolate milk on milkshake setting. Strangely enough the milkshake setting is more like a frappe than the frappe setting 🤷🏻‍♀️

Don’t use orange soft drink or juice, it’ll stain.

yes it was discounted. and thanks for the tips :)

I just watched a young man with AFRID trying mustard flavoured soda and spicy pickle flavoured soda.

Try these!

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1915fBL67K/

I’m gonna take his word for it and avoid them

Neophyte said:

kii said:

Neophyte said:

Hey kii, talk about serendipity – picked up a copy of La Grande Bouffe on DVD today :-)

Cool! Enjoy. I particularly liked the boobs dessert scene.

A movie buff I know is culling his DVD collection – also grabbed some other arthouse favourites – El Topo & The Holy Moutain

Some film student friends of mine dragged me to a screening of el topo way back in the day when the midnight movies were on at Lumiere. It was wild

Arts said:

my workplace has moved over to a system called respondus, where we “as Unit coordinators, have to up load the exam and the exams team transfer it to the respondus platform.

They were meant to introduce it for semester 1 (exams have just finished) but the middle east issue earlier this year meant they rolled it out early for students at out Dubai campus (who run with different semester structures) since many of them returned ‘home’ and they switched to online learning.. so I think that helped to iron out a lot of the initial issues.

A couple of my colleagues are complaining about all the ‘extra’ work because now we have to upload exams as a quiz for them to be transferred over… it’s not that difficult and, quite frankly, it’s their job… they can – if they choose to – administer their own exams, do the room bookings, the printing, the communicating to the students, and the invigilating .. but that would also mean they have to cater to the students who have to do their exams online due to living >100kms away anyway, so I don’t know what their problem is.

How did they get through Covid?

Surely folks are updated by now?

Arts said:

Neophyte said:

kii said:

Cool! Enjoy. I particularly liked the boobs dessert scene.

A movie buff I know is culling his DVD collection – also grabbed some other arthouse favourites – El Topo & The Holy Moutain

Some film student friends of mine dragged me to a screening of el topo way back in the day when the midnight movies were on at Lumiere. It was wild

I’ve heard about ‘em, read about ‘em, but never actually seen ‘em – curious to see whether they come off looking like period pieces (or not).

Hello friends,

I report strange happenings.

Over last couple of days I’m getting text messages on my phone from car dealerships in Victoria, along the lines of “Thanks for your enquiry regarding the Subaru Forester ….” and then giving me details of the car, along with the address of their dealership with contact names and phone numbers etc. I have even had a couple try to call me, but I missed to call.

The first one I replied to telling him I was in Perth and that he had the wrong number, to which he replied saying sorry about that. I have just binned the rest without reply.

What do you reckon is going on here? One of the other guys at work thinks it is amusing, others think it is a scam of some kind but can’t explain how it might work. The first one yesterday I though was just a wrong or number, but I am up to about 7 or 8 now. All of them responding to “my enquiry” about a Subaru Forrester.

Any ideas?

party_pants said:

Hello friends,

I report strange happenings.

Over last couple of days I’m getting text messages on my phone from car dealerships in Victoria, along the lines of “Thanks for your enquiry regarding the Subaru Forester ….” and then giving me details of the car, along with the address of their dealership with contact names and phone numbers etc. I have even had a couple try to call me, but I missed to call.

The first one I replied to telling him I was in Perth and that he had the wrong number, to which he replied saying sorry about that. I have just binned the rest without reply.

What do you reckon is going on here? One of the other guys at work thinks it is amusing, others think it is a scam of some kind but can’t explain how it might work. The first one yesterday I though was just a wrong or number, but I am up to about 7 or 8 now. All of them responding to “my enquiry” about a Subaru Forrester.

Any ideas?

It’s………..it’s the great Subaru Forrester scam, detonate your relatives and fly to Dover.

ms spock said:

Arts said:

my workplace has moved over to a system called respondus, where we “as Unit coordinators, have to up load the exam and the exams team transfer it to the respondus platform.

They were meant to introduce it for semester 1 (exams have just finished) but the middle east issue earlier this year meant they rolled it out early for students at out Dubai campus (who run with different semester structures) since many of them returned ‘home’ and they switched to online learning.. so I think that helped to iron out a lot of the initial issues.

A couple of my colleagues are complaining about all the ‘extra’ work because now we have to upload exams as a quiz for them to be transferred over… it’s not that difficult and, quite frankly, it’s their job… they can – if they choose to – administer their own exams, do the room bookings, the printing, the communicating to the students, and the invigilating .. but that would also mean they have to cater to the students who have to do their exams online due to living >100kms away anyway, so I don’t know what their problem is.

How did they get through Covid?

Surely folks are updated by now?

Covid was a scramble and not at all like the system we have now… but neither of these colleagues were academics then either… they are both quite new. So they will either learn to lean in or find something that suits them more.

party_pants said:

Hello friends,

I report strange happenings.

Over last couple of days I’m getting text messages on my phone from car dealerships in Victoria, along the lines of “Thanks for your enquiry regarding the Subaru Forester ….” and then giving me details of the car, along with the address of their dealership with contact names and phone numbers etc. I have even had a couple try to call me, but I missed to call.

The first one I replied to telling him I was in Perth and that he had the wrong number, to which he replied saying sorry about that. I have just binned the rest without reply.

What do you reckon is going on here? One of the other guys at work thinks it is amusing, others think it is a scam of some kind but can’t explain how it might work. The first one yesterday I though was just a wrong or number, but I am up to about 7 or 8 now. All of them responding to “my enquiry” about a Subaru Forrester.

Any ideas?

Maybe they’re confusing you with another party_pants who lives in Victoria and has his heart set on a Subaru Forester.

Arts said:

ms spock said:

Arts said:

my workplace has moved over to a system called respondus, where we “as Unit coordinators, have to up load the exam and the exams team transfer it to the respondus platform.

They were meant to introduce it for semester 1 (exams have just finished) but the middle east issue earlier this year meant they rolled it out early for students at out Dubai campus (who run with different semester structures) since many of them returned ‘home’ and they switched to online learning.. so I think that helped to iron out a lot of the initial issues.

A couple of my colleagues are complaining about all the ‘extra’ work because now we have to upload exams as a quiz for them to be transferred over… it’s not that difficult and, quite frankly, it’s their job… they can – if they choose to – administer their own exams, do the room bookings, the printing, the communicating to the students, and the invigilating .. but that would also mean they have to cater to the students who have to do their exams online due to living >100kms away anyway, so I don’t know what their problem is.

How did they get through Covid?

Surely folks are updated by now?

Covid was a scramble and not at all like the system we have now… but neither of these colleagues were academics then either… they are both quite new. So they will either learn to lean in or find something that suits them more.

Fairy nuf…

party_pants said:

Hello friends,

I report strange happenings.

Over last couple of days I’m getting text messages on my phone from car dealerships in Victoria, along the lines of “Thanks for your enquiry regarding the Subaru Forester ….” and then giving me details of the car, along with the address of their dealership with contact names and phone numbers etc. I have even had a couple try to call me, but I missed to call.

The first one I replied to telling him I was in Perth and that he had the wrong number, to which he replied saying sorry about that. I have just binned the rest without reply.

What do you reckon is going on here? One of the other guys at work thinks it is amusing, others think it is a scam of some kind but can’t explain how it might work. The first one yesterday I though was just a wrong or number, but I am up to about 7 or 8 now. All of them responding to “my enquiry” about a Subaru Forrester.

Any ideas?

Who did you piss off enough for them to prank you by putting your details on enquiry forms?

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Hello friends,

I report strange happenings.

Over last couple of days I’m getting text messages on my phone from car dealerships in Victoria, along the lines of “Thanks for your enquiry regarding the Subaru Forester ….” and then giving me details of the car, along with the address of their dealership with contact names and phone numbers etc. I have even had a couple try to call me, but I missed to call.

The first one I replied to telling him I was in Perth and that he had the wrong number, to which he replied saying sorry about that. I have just binned the rest without reply.

What do you reckon is going on here? One of the other guys at work thinks it is amusing, others think it is a scam of some kind but can’t explain how it might work. The first one yesterday I though was just a wrong or number, but I am up to about 7 or 8 now. All of them responding to “my enquiry” about a Subaru Forrester.

Any ideas?

Maybe they’re confusing you with another party_pants who lives in Victoria and has his heart set on a Subaru Forester.

How would they all be getting my (wrong) number?

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

Hello friends,

I report strange happenings.

Over last couple of days I’m getting text messages on my phone from car dealerships in Victoria, along the lines of “Thanks for your enquiry regarding the Subaru Forester ….” and then giving me details of the car, along with the address of their dealership with contact names and phone numbers etc. I have even had a couple try to call me, but I missed to call.

The first one I replied to telling him I was in Perth and that he had the wrong number, to which he replied saying sorry about that. I have just binned the rest without reply.

What do you reckon is going on here? One of the other guys at work thinks it is amusing, others think it is a scam of some kind but can’t explain how it might work. The first one yesterday I though was just a wrong or number, but I am up to about 7 or 8 now. All of them responding to “my enquiry” about a Subaru Forrester.

Any ideas?

Who did you piss off enough for them to prank you by putting your details on enquiry forms?

Only you and Boris and Arts and kii and PWM :)

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

Hello friends,

I report strange happenings.

Over last couple of days I’m getting text messages on my phone from car dealerships in Victoria, along the lines of “Thanks for your enquiry regarding the Subaru Forester ….” and then giving me details of the car, along with the address of their dealership with contact names and phone numbers etc. I have even had a couple try to call me, but I missed to call.

The first one I replied to telling him I was in Perth and that he had the wrong number, to which he replied saying sorry about that. I have just binned the rest without reply.

What do you reckon is going on here? One of the other guys at work thinks it is amusing, others think it is a scam of some kind but can’t explain how it might work. The first one yesterday I though was just a wrong or number, but I am up to about 7 or 8 now. All of them responding to “my enquiry” about a Subaru Forrester.

Any ideas?

Who did you piss off enough for them to prank you by putting your details on enquiry forms?

But didn’t piss them off enough for them to put your details on a REA website.

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Hello friends,

I report strange happenings.

Over last couple of days I’m getting text messages on my phone from car dealerships in Victoria, along the lines of “Thanks for your enquiry regarding the Subaru Forester ….” and then giving me details of the car, along with the address of their dealership with contact names and phone numbers etc. I have even had a couple try to call me, but I missed to call.

The first one I replied to telling him I was in Perth and that he had the wrong number, to which he replied saying sorry about that. I have just binned the rest without reply.

What do you reckon is going on here? One of the other guys at work thinks it is amusing, others think it is a scam of some kind but can’t explain how it might work. The first one yesterday I though was just a wrong or number, but I am up to about 7 or 8 now. All of them responding to “my enquiry” about a Subaru Forrester.

Any ideas?

Maybe they’re confusing you with another party_pants who lives in Victoria and has his heart set on a Subaru Forester.

How would they all be getting my (wrong) number?

Data sharing schemes.

party_pants said:

Hello friends,

I report strange happenings.

Over last couple of days I’m getting text messages on my phone from car dealerships in Victoria, along the lines of “Thanks for your enquiry regarding the Subaru Forester ….” and then giving me details of the car, along with the address of their dealership with contact names and phone numbers etc. I have even had a couple try to call me, but I missed to call.

The first one I replied to telling him I was in Perth and that he had the wrong number, to which he replied saying sorry about that. I have just binned the rest without reply.

What do you reckon is going on here? One of the other guys at work thinks it is amusing, others think it is a scam of some kind but can’t explain how it might work. The first one yesterday I though was just a wrong or number, but I am up to about 7 or 8 now. All of them responding to “my enquiry” about a Subaru Forrester.

Any ideas?

In the US I kept getting text messages from various people leaving messages for “Trey”. One or two voice messages. Usualy late in the evening. Always about parties. Lots of different phone numbers. Finally mr kii called a few of the numbers and using his gruff, no nonsense voice told them to fuck off.

Do I want one of these?

Bubblecar said:

Do I want one of these?

Only one? How about two or four?

Bubblecar said:

Do I want one of these?

It is indoor or outdoor, which means you can play with it during inclement weather!

Sadly this is where you are most likely to crash your colourful drone.

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Do I want one of these?

Only one? How about two or four?

Plenty of similar ones on eBay.

I suppose I’d better get one to see what all the fuss is about.

ms spock said:

Bubblecar said:

Do I want one of these?

It is indoor or outdoor, which means you can play with it during inclement weather!

Sadly this is where you are most likely to crash your colourful drone.

Seems they can be quite difficult to control. But they’re all pretty cheap :)

Village People founding member, lead singer Victor Willis dead at 74

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/victor-willis-village-people-singer-obituary/106867416

Bubblecar said:

Village People founding member, lead singer Victor Willis dead at 74

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/victor-willis-village-people-singer-obituary/106867416

So it turns out you can stop the music

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

And talking of Quora browsings, I’m seeing increasingly that people writing about a specific woman swap randomly between using she/her and he/him.

Do people actually do this, or is it a self-reinforcing AI mistake?

What is the name of the specific woman?

But yes, people do swap preferred pronouns. Sometimes it’s an alter-ego, like Lady Gaga/Jo Calderone, sometimes it’s an expression of who they are in any given moment, and sometimes it’s trying to find something to describe how they feel.

Well today it was about Rosemary Kennedy, sister of Jack who had a lobotomy as a young woman and spent the rest of her 80 + years in mental institutions, but the many cases I have seen have always been pieces written about a woman, never the women writing about themselves.

Charlotte Perkins Gilman wrote her foundational short story “The Yellow Wallpaper,” she draws on her own experience with postpartum depression and forced rest cures to critique the silencing and oppression of women in the medical system.

Meri Nana-Ama Danquah: In Willow Weep for Me: A Black Woman’s Journey Through Depression, she explores how systemic racism, poverty, and personal history intersect with clinical depression.

Kay Redfield Jamison “In An Unquiet Mind”, the renowned clinical psychologist and psychiatrist turns her diagnostic lens on herself, offering a searing, authoritative account of her own experience with manic-depressive illness.

Meri Nana-Ama Danquah “In Willow Weep for Me: A Black Woman’s Journey Through Depression”, she explores how systemic racism, poverty, and personal history intersect with clinical depression.

“Journal of a Solitude” is a book by May Sarton. She describes her struggles with her mental health.

Sylvia Plath wrote her autobiographical novel “The Bell Jar” remains one of the most famous literary depictions of clinical depression and electroconvulsive therapy.

Virginia Woolf wrote novels like Mrs. Dalloway and her personal diaries, Woolf vividly articulated the sensations of her manic-depressive illness and the suffocating nature of psychiatric treatments of her era.

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Bubblecar said:

ms spock said:

Bubblecar said:

Do I want one of these?

It is indoor or outdoor, which means you can play with it during inclement weather!

Sadly this is where you are most likely to crash your colourful drone.

Seems they can be quite difficult to control. But they’re all pretty cheap :)

Practice makes perfect!

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Orange shirt? Why do you say that that causes alignment with PH?

Brown shirts.

I associate it with corrupt unions who agree with Pauline’s stance of white boyz first

I’ll take this up with Cymek tomorrow.

BOM tells me that they recorded 20.8mm at the airport since 9am..
I’ll look later to see what the differences are. Yesterday they had 6.4mm while I almost got 11mm.

party_pants said:

Hello friends,

I report strange happenings.

Over last couple of days I’m getting text messages on my phone from car dealerships in Victoria, along the lines of “Thanks for your enquiry regarding the Subaru Forester ….” and then giving me details of the car, along with the address of their dealership with contact names and phone numbers etc. I have even had a couple try to call me, but I missed to call.

The first one I replied to telling him I was in Perth and that he had the wrong number, to which he replied saying sorry about that. I have just binned the rest without reply.

What do you reckon is going on here? One of the other guys at work thinks it is amusing, others think it is a scam of some kind but can’t explain how it might work. The first one yesterday I though was just a wrong or number, but I am up to about 7 or 8 now. All of them responding to “my enquiry” about a Subaru Forrester.

Any ideas?

Some numbnut has typed in the wrong phone number for his Subaru for sale, and is probably wondering why no-one has enquired about it yet.

On the upside, if you figure out their actual phone number, you could ring that person, and get a real cheap Subaru

Kingy said:

party_pants said:

Hello friends,

I report strange happenings.

Over last couple of days I’m getting text messages on my phone from car dealerships in Victoria, along the lines of “Thanks for your enquiry regarding the Subaru Forester ….” and then giving me details of the car, along with the address of their dealership with contact names and phone numbers etc. I have even had a couple try to call me, but I missed to call.

The first one I replied to telling him I was in Perth and that he had the wrong number, to which he replied saying sorry about that. I have just binned the rest without reply.

What do you reckon is going on here? One of the other guys at work thinks it is amusing, others think it is a scam of some kind but can’t explain how it might work. The first one yesterday I though was just a wrong or number, but I am up to about 7 or 8 now. All of them responding to “my enquiry” about a Subaru Forrester.

Any ideas?

Some numbnut has typed in the wrong phone number for his Subaru for sale, and is probably wondering why no-one has enquired about it yet.

On the upside, if you figure out their actual phone number, you could ring that person, and get a real cheap Subaru

No. It is exactly the opposite situation. Someone is asking the dealers for more information about the Subaru the dealers have advertised for sale. Each one is a different car – different year, different km.. etc

How can they lodge so many inquiries and get the phone number wrong 7 or 8 times in a row?

Rage is doing 80’s hits. Seems there were a lot of covers of 70’s songs.
and now, 60’s songs.

Clear with a top of 23.

More assignmenting, some grocery shopping. The usual excitement.

What did Hubble see on your birthday?

https://science.nasa.gov/mission/hubble/multimedia/what-did-hubble-see-on-your-birthday/

And for you Eurovision lovers, Canada will be in it next year

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/canada-will-enter-2027-eurovision-song-contest-9.7254616

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees at the back door, dark, gusty and rainy. But not wildy weathery. We are forecast 12 degrees with rain.

Bakery Breakfast with my bushwandering friend…but I think I’ll drive down there today rather than walking. Rain without wind is OK, but when it’s trying to get you from all sides, the car is better value. Other activities to be decided. I might sort more patient records.

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees at the back door, dark, gusty and rainy. But not wildy weathery. We are forecast 12 degrees with rain.

Bakery Breakfast with my bushwandering friend…but I think I’ll drive down there today rather than walking. Rain without wind is OK, but when it’s trying to get you from all sides, the car is better value. Other activities to be decided. I might sort more patient records.

Weatherly speaking, sounds like a miserable day.

Clear here, the sun is just beginning to peek over the fenceline. Birds are singing. Slight breeze.

Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees at the back door, dark, gusty and rainy. But not wildy weathery. We are forecast 12 degrees with rain.

Bakery Breakfast with my bushwandering friend…but I think I’ll drive down there today rather than walking. Rain without wind is OK, but when it’s trying to get you from all sides, the car is better value. Other activities to be decided. I might sort more patient records.

Weatherly speaking, sounds like a miserable day.

Clear here, the sun is just beginning to peek over the fenceline. Birds are singing. Slight breeze.

The rain has all moved on. Exactly 26mm.

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees at the back door, dark, gusty and rainy. But not wildy weathery. We are forecast 12 degrees with rain.

Bakery Breakfast with my bushwandering friend…but I think I’ll drive down there today rather than walking. Rain without wind is OK, but when it’s trying to get you from all sides, the car is better value. Other activities to be decided. I might sort more patient records.

Weatherly speaking, sounds like a miserable day.

Clear here, the sun is just beginning to peek over the fenceline. Birds are singing. Slight breeze.

The rain has all moved on. Exactly 26mm.

The post office man doesn’t put up our rainfall total until after 9.00am when he reads the gauge. We will just have to wait in suspense. From the automatic stations in about a 50km radius, I’m guessing we got around 5mm. But June was above average, which was the second month in a row after something like two years of below average months. It’s a good start.

Been awake since 4am.
Experiencing pain.
sigh 😕
buffy’s weather sounds perfect.
What bullshit can I get up to today?

so shit is code for ying got it

Greetings Forumites!

It is now 17° with a top of 23°

🍀🍀🍀

“I did four years of college without ChatGPT” is the new “I walked 10 miles in the snow to get to school”

Divine Angel said:

“I did four years of college without ChatGPT” is the new “I walked 10 miles in the snow to get to school”

or I had to walk through the white shag pile to change the TV channel and that’s why I don’t have a TV now.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Do I want one of these?

Only one? How about two or four?

Plenty of similar ones on eBay.

I suppose I’d better get one to see what all the fuss is about.

I look forward to your unpacking video along with your highlights reel. 😍

Bubblecar said:

Village People founding member, lead singer Victor Willis dead at 74

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/victor-willis-village-people-singer-obituary/106867416

😭

I saw then live once in Thirroul with a friend.

Neophyte said:

Bubblecar said:

Village People founding member, lead singer Victor Willis dead at 74

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/victor-willis-village-people-singer-obituary/106867416

So it turns out you can stop the music

Classic!

Good morning everybody.

Clear, calm, 18.6° C and 94% RH. BoM forecasts a top of 25° C and not much chance of rain.

Maybe I might get a walk on the beach today.

I also have to put together another batch of kimchi so it can do its fermenting thing for the next three or four weeks.

And I have to find some stuff in the shed.

I wish that you all have a terrific day.

:)

Bogsnorkler said:

Divine Angel said:

“I did four years of college without ChatGPT” is the new “I walked 10 miles in the snow to get to school”

or I had to walk through the white shag pile to change the TV channel and that’s why I don’t have a TV now.

So that’s what happened.

Michael V said:

Good morning everybody.

Clear, calm, 18.6° C and 94% RH. BoM forecasts a top of 25° C and not much chance of rain.

Maybe I might get a walk on the beach today.

I also have to put together another batch of kimchi so it can do its fermenting thing for the next three or four weeks.

And I have to find some stuff in the shed.

I wish that you all have a terrific day.

:)

🍀🖖🏾🖖🏾🍀

I hope that you have a terrific day as well Michael V.

May your kim chi ferment in an adequate and satisfying manner.

Michael V said:

Good morning everybody.

Clear, calm, 18.6° C and 94% RH. BoM forecasts a top of 25° C and not much chance of rain.

Maybe I might get a walk on the beach today.

I also have to put together another batch of kimchi so it can do its fermenting thing for the next three or four weeks.

And I have to find some stuff in the shed.

I wish that you all have a terrific day.

:)

I’ve got an appointment with my vaccination nurse. Not sure what she’s gonna jab me with. I leave that all up to her.

Rain all day expected this end, with strongish winds and a max of 12. Unlikely I’ll be able to get to the shops.

My friends at Coles declare: We’re planning to arrive between 4:05 PM and 5:05 PM.

ms spock said:

Bubblecar said:

Village People founding member, lead singer Victor Willis dead at 74

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/victor-willis-village-people-singer-obituary/106867416

😭

I saw then live once in Thirroul with a friend.

I’m so sorry.

Hello

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Good morning everybody.

Clear, calm, 18.6° C and 94% RH. BoM forecasts a top of 25° C and not much chance of rain.

Maybe I might get a walk on the beach today.

I also have to put together another batch of kimchi so it can do its fermenting thing for the next three or four weeks.

And I have to find some stuff in the shed.

I wish that you all have a terrific day.

:)

I’ve got an appointment with my vaccination nurse. Not sure what she’s gonna jab me with. I leave that all up to her.

they usually jab you with a needle.

hth.

Witty Rejoinder said:

ms spock said:

Bubblecar said:

Village People founding member, lead singer Victor Willis dead at 74

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/victor-willis-village-people-singer-obituary/106867416

😭

I saw then live once in Thirroul with a friend.

I’m so sorry.

It is so weird what happened with Trump. But before that they meant a lot.

Cymek said:

Hello

Greetings and hugs Cymek!

💚 🫂

Hi Cymek.

Yesterday you said that you felt some unions are racist. Is this your experience with public sector unions in WA?

“What made the front page the day you were born?
Our stories are part of a shared history. See the biggest headlines from your special day.”

…

Why does the ‘Wash Post’ want to know my birthday?

Witty Rejoinder said:

“What made the front page the day you were born?
Our stories are part of a shared history. See the biggest headlines from your special day.”

…

Why does the ‘Wash Post’ want to know my birthday?

So they can spam you with nostalgia and “old bastard” stories.

ms spock said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

ms spock said:

😭

I saw then live once in Thirroul with a friend.

I’m so sorry.

It is so weird what happened with Trump. But before that they meant a lot.

What happened?

Michael V said:

ms spock said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I’m so sorry.

It is so weird what happened with Trump. But before that they meant a lot.

What happened?

AI says:

Donald Trump frequently used the Village People’s 1978 hit song “Y.M.C.A.” as a signature track at his campaign rallies. He also utilized their track “Macho Man”.While the band originally asked him to stop using their music in 2020, the relationship later changed.

Frontman Victor Willis embraced Trump’s use of the song after it caused a massive resurgence in the track’s popularity and royalties. The band even performed “Y.M.C.A.” live at events surrounding Trump’s second inauguration in 2025.

Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

ms spock said:

It is so weird what happened with Trump. But before that they meant a lot.

What happened?

AI says:

Donald Trump frequently used the Village People’s 1978 hit song “Y.M.C.A.” as a signature track at his campaign rallies. He also utilized their track “Macho Man”.While the band originally asked him to stop using their music in 2020, the relationship later changed.

Frontman Victor Willis embraced Trump’s use of the song after it caused a massive resurgence in the track’s popularity and royalties. The band even performed “Y.M.C.A.” live at events surrounding Trump’s second inauguration in 2025.

Ah. Thanks.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Hi Cymek.

Yesterday you said that you felt some unions are racist. Is this your experience with public sector unions in WA?

Not my union in particular

They aren’t interested in the clerical and administrative workers which was what annoyed me.
They are jobs were you learn all sorts of skills and its never really acknowledged.
Its petty to not do your best with your job

roughbarked said:

Rage is doing 80’s hits. Seems there were a lot of covers of 70’s songs.
and now, 60’s songs.

been something like that going on as long as walking and talking had rhythm and more, and music and song historically might be considered replicators, used for transmission of story and mood

https://youtu.be/88f3D1xZOIM?list=RD88f3D1xZOIM
Big Joe Williams – Baby Please Don’t Go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Joe_Williams
“Joseph Lee Williams (October 16, 1903 – December 17, 1982) was an American Delta blues guitarist, singer, and songwriter, notable for the distinctive sound of his nine-string guitar. Performing over five decades, he recorded the songs “Baby, Please Don’t Go”, “Crawlin’ King Snake”, and “Peach Orchard Mama”, among many others, for various record labels. He was inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame on October 4, 1992.

The blues historian Barry Lee Pearson (Sounds Good to Me: The Bluesman’s Story, Virginia Piedmont Blues) described Williams’s performance:

“When I saw him playing at Mike Bloomfield’s “blues night” at the Fickle Pickle, Williams was playing an electric nine-string guitar through a small ramshackle amp with a pie plate nailed to it and a beer can dangling against that. When he played, everything rattled but Big Joe himself. The total effect of this incredible apparatus produced the most buzzing, sizzling, African-sounding music I have ever heard..”….”

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Good morning everybody.

Clear, calm, 18.6° C and 94% RH. BoM forecasts a top of 25° C and not much chance of rain.

Maybe I might get a walk on the beach today.

I also have to put together another batch of kimchi so it can do its fermenting thing for the next three or four weeks.

And I have to find some stuff in the shed.

I wish that you all have a terrific day.

:)

I’ve got an appointment with my vaccination nurse. Not sure what she’s gonna jab me with. I leave that all up to her.

they usually jab you with a needle.

hth.

:)

transition said:

roughbarked said:

Rage is doing 80’s hits. Seems there were a lot of covers of 70’s songs.
and now, 60’s songs.

been something like that going on as long as walking and talking had rhythm and more, and music and song historically might be considered replicators, used for transmission of story and mood

https://youtu.be/88f3D1xZOIM?list=RD88f3D1xZOIM
Big Joe Williams – Baby Please Don’t Go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Joe_Williams
“Joseph Lee Williams (October 16, 1903 – December 17, 1982) was an American Delta blues guitarist, singer, and songwriter, notable for the distinctive sound of his nine-string guitar. Performing over five decades, he recorded the songs “Baby, Please Don’t Go”, “Crawlin’ King Snake”, and “Peach Orchard Mama”, among many others, for various record labels. He was inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame on October 4, 1992.

The blues historian Barry Lee Pearson (Sounds Good to Me: The Bluesman’s Story, Virginia Piedmont Blues) described Williams’s performance:

“When I saw him playing at Mike Bloomfield’s “blues night” at the Fickle Pickle, Williams was playing an electric nine-string guitar through a small ramshackle amp with a pie plate nailed to it and a beer can dangling against that. When he played, everything rattled but Big Joe himself. The total effect of this incredible apparatus produced the most buzzing, sizzling, African-sounding music I have ever heard..”….”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby,_Please_Don%27t_Go
““Baby, Please Don’t Go” is a traditional blues song that was popularized by Delta blues musician Big Joe Williams in 1935. Many cover versions followed, leading to its description as “one of the most played, arranged, and rearranged pieces in blues history” by French music historian Gérard Herzhaft…….

“Baby, Please Don’t Go” is likely an adaptation of “Long John”, an old folk theme that dates back to the time of slavery in the United States. Blues researcher Paul Garon notes that the melody is based on “Alabamy Bound”, composed by Tin Pan Alley writer Ray Henderson, with lyrics by Buddy DeSylva and Bud Green in 1925. The song, a vaudeville show tune, inspired several other songs between 1925 and 1935, such as “Elder Greene Blues”, “Alabama Bound”, and “Don’t You Leave Me Here”. These variants were recorded by Charlie Patton, Lead Belly, Monette Moore, Henry Thomas, and Tampa Red.

Author Linda Dahl suggests a connection to a song with the same title by Mary Williams Johnson in the late 1920s and early 1930s. However, Johnson, who was married to jazz-influenced blues guitarist Lonnie Johnson, never recorded it and her song is not discussed as influencing later performers. Blues researcher Jim O’Neal notes that Williams “sometimes said that the song was written by his wife, singer Bessie Mae Smith a.k.a. Blue Belle and St. Louis Bessie.”…”

transition said:

roughbarked said:

Rage is doing 80’s hits. Seems there were a lot of covers of 70’s songs.
and now, 60’s songs.

been something like that going on as long as walking and talking had rhythm and more, and music and song historically might be considered replicators, used for transmission of story and mood

https://youtu.be/88f3D1xZOIM?list=RD88f3D1xZOIM
Big Joe Williams – Baby Please Don’t Go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Joe_Williams
“Joseph Lee Williams (October 16, 1903 – December 17, 1982) was an American Delta blues guitarist, singer, and songwriter, notable for the distinctive sound of his nine-string guitar. Performing over five decades, he recorded the songs “Baby, Please Don’t Go”, “Crawlin’ King Snake”, and “Peach Orchard Mama”, among many others, for various record labels. He was inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame on October 4, 1992.

The blues historian Barry Lee Pearson (Sounds Good to Me: The Bluesman’s Story, Virginia Piedmont Blues) described Williams’s performance:

“When I saw him playing at Mike Bloomfield’s “blues night” at the Fickle Pickle, Williams was playing an electric nine-string guitar through a small ramshackle amp with a pie plate nailed to it and a beer can dangling against that. When he played, everything rattled but Big Joe himself. The total effect of this incredible apparatus produced the most buzzing, sizzling, African-sounding music I have ever heard..”….”

Having a listen to Big Joe Williams.

https://thenightly.com.au/australia/sydney-british-man-injures-1-year-old-daughter-with-screw-to-get-free-meal-at-chinese-restaurant-mr-wong-c-22517086

I wondered if he paid with travellers cheques

Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Hi Cymek.

Yesterday you said that you felt some unions are racist. Is this your experience with public sector unions in WA?

Not my union in particular

They aren’t interested in the clerical and administrative workers which was what annoyed me.
They are jobs were you learn all sorts of skills and its never really acknowledged.
Its petty to not do your best with your job

Ahhh I see. I was curious because in Victoria the unions are very proudly multicultural. As for union corruption with organised crime, as you’re probably aware, crime attracts a very racially diverse cast of characters. :-)

Divine Angel said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

“What made the front page the day you were born?
Our stories are part of a shared history. See the biggest headlines from your special day.”

…

Why does the ‘Wash Post’ want to know my birthday?

So they can spam you with nostalgia and “old bastard” stories.

Then there’s what did Hubble see on your birthday.

transition said:

roughbarked said:

Rage is doing 80’s hits. Seems there were a lot of covers of 70’s songs.
and now, 60’s songs.

been something like that going on as long as walking and talking had rhythm and more, and music and song historically might be considered replicators, used for transmission of story and mood

https://youtu.be/88f3D1xZOIM?list=RD88f3D1xZOIM
Big Joe Williams – Baby Please Don’t Go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Joe_Williams
“Joseph Lee Williams (October 16, 1903 – December 17, 1982) was an American Delta blues guitarist, singer, and songwriter, notable for the distinctive sound of his nine-string guitar. Performing over five decades, he recorded the songs “Baby, Please Don’t Go”, “Crawlin’ King Snake”, and “Peach Orchard Mama”, among many others, for various record labels. He was inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame on October 4, 1992.

The blues historian Barry Lee Pearson (Sounds Good to Me: The Bluesman’s Story, Virginia Piedmont Blues) described Williams’s performance:

“When I saw him playing at Mike Bloomfield’s “blues night” at the Fickle Pickle, Williams was playing an electric nine-string guitar through a small ramshackle amp with a pie plate nailed to it and a beer can dangling against that. When he played, everything rattled but Big Joe himself. The total effect of this incredible apparatus produced the most buzzing, sizzling, African-sounding music I have ever heard..”….”

:)

roughbarked said:

transition said:

roughbarked said:

Rage is doing 80’s hits. Seems there were a lot of covers of 70’s songs.
and now, 60’s songs.

been something like that going on as long as walking and talking had rhythm and more, and music and song historically might be considered replicators, used for transmission of story and mood

https://youtu.be/88f3D1xZOIM?list=RD88f3D1xZOIM
Big Joe Williams – Baby Please Don’t Go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Joe_Williams
“Joseph Lee Williams (October 16, 1903 – December 17, 1982) was an American Delta blues guitarist, singer, and songwriter, notable for the distinctive sound of his nine-string guitar. Performing over five decades, he recorded the songs “Baby, Please Don’t Go”, “Crawlin’ King Snake”, and “Peach Orchard Mama”, among many others, for various record labels. He was inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame on October 4, 1992.

The blues historian Barry Lee Pearson (Sounds Good to Me: The Bluesman’s Story, Virginia Piedmont Blues) described Williams’s performance:

“When I saw him playing at Mike Bloomfield’s “blues night” at the Fickle Pickle, Williams was playing an electric nine-string guitar through a small ramshackle amp with a pie plate nailed to it and a beer can dangling against that. When he played, everything rattled but Big Joe himself. The total effect of this incredible apparatus produced the most buzzing, sizzling, African-sounding music I have ever heard..”….”

:)

https://youtu.be/PyJFcsn8B08?list=RDPyJFcsn8B08
AC/DC – Baby, Please Don’t Go LIVE 1975 FULL HD

roughbarked said:

transition said:

roughbarked said:

Rage is doing 80’s hits. Seems there were a lot of covers of 70’s songs.
and now, 60’s songs.

been something like that going on as long as walking and talking had rhythm and more, and music and song historically might be considered replicators, used for transmission of story and mood

https://youtu.be/88f3D1xZOIM?list=RD88f3D1xZOIM
Big Joe Williams – Baby Please Don’t Go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Joe_Williams
“Joseph Lee Williams (October 16, 1903 – December 17, 1982) was an American Delta blues guitarist, singer, and songwriter, notable for the distinctive sound of his nine-string guitar. Performing over five decades, he recorded the songs “Baby, Please Don’t Go”, “Crawlin’ King Snake”, and “Peach Orchard Mama”, among many others, for various record labels. He was inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame on October 4, 1992.

The blues historian Barry Lee Pearson (Sounds Good to Me: The Bluesman’s Story, Virginia Piedmont Blues) described Williams’s performance:

“When I saw him playing at Mike Bloomfield’s “blues night” at the Fickle Pickle, Williams was playing an electric nine-string guitar through a small ramshackle amp with a pie plate nailed to it and a beer can dangling against that. When he played, everything rattled but Big Joe himself. The total effect of this incredible apparatus produced the most buzzing, sizzling, African-sounding music I have ever heard..”….”

:)

I watched a movie yesterday and didn’t realise the original version of Santa Baby was sung by Eartha Kitt. I’ve only ever heard cover versions, with Kylie Minogue’s being the most famous to me.

In unhappy news, an uncle (related by marriage) is not doing well. He had two different surgeries, then his dad died, then there were complications from the first surgery, all leading to loss of quality of life and heavy self-medicating behaviours.

Michael V said:

ms spock said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I’m so sorry.

It is so weird what happened with Trump. But before that they meant a lot.

What happened?

They didn’t sue to have their music not used by Trump. (Most of the other musicians did). Trump then imitated an imitation of someone else dancing. Don’t watch it. It might turn you blind.

It’s kind of ironic with the Village People have sung some of the greatest gay anthems of our times.

There is a running joke that Trump was too dumb to know.

There’s been curiousity if any of his staff would tell him.

Or debate that Trump is gay/bisexual because his mentor was gay, but because of the brutality of his father that he could never come out.

Or maybe Trump is being malicious to Queer people?

The “I have had it” IHIP podcast keep doing break downs of Trump and the interesting fact that grinder always crashes when there is a Republican event in town. Grinder is a same sex hook up for men. IHIP have a theory about Trump that they discussed with Don Lemon (gay African American) who got sacked from MSM for some thing about Trump.

The Village People has life long resonances for me. The whole Trump and the Village People is a whole other universe. What if a section of the white racist Evangelical Christian Americans are just folks who can’t come out?

ACCC blocks Coles from opening another supermarket in Kalgoorlie.

Coles already have a Coles supermarket there. There’s also a Woolies, two IGAs, and two indie supermarkets.

“We disagree with the ACCC’s decision,” a Coles spokesperson said.

“Blocking the development of a new supermarket on a vacant site does not promote competition. It denies Kalgoorlie shoppers greater choice and convenience.”

How many supermarkets does a town of ~35,000 need?

ms spock said:

Michael V said:

ms spock said:

It is so weird what happened with Trump. But before that they meant a lot.

What happened?

They didn’t sue to have their music not used by Trump. (Most of the other musicians did). Trump then imitated an imitation of someone else dancing. Don’t watch it. It might turn you blind.

It’s kind of ironic with the Village People have sung some of the greatest gay anthems of our times.

There is a running joke that Trump was too dumb to know.

There’s been curiousity if any of his staff would tell him.

Or debate that Trump is gay/bisexual because his mentor was gay, but because of the brutality of his father that he could never come out.

Or maybe Trump is being malicious to Queer people?

The “I have had it” IHIP podcast keep doing break downs of Trump and the interesting fact that grinder always crashes when there is a Republican event in town. Grinder is a same sex hook up for men. IHIP have a theory about Trump that they discussed with Don Lemon (gay African American) who got sacked from MSM for some thing about Trump.

The Village People has life long resonances for me. The whole Trump and the Village People is a whole other universe. What if a section of the white racist Evangelical Christian Americans are just folks who can’t come out?

Ta. Some odd notions there, that’s for sure.

ms spock said:

Bubblecar said:

Village People founding member, lead singer Victor Willis dead at 74

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/victor-willis-village-people-singer-obituary/106867416

😭

I saw then live once in Thirroul with a friend.

Ah, Thirroul!
When son#1 was a toddler we bought him a hobby horse from a shop in Thirroul. My parents lived in Wombarra at the time (or as we called it Wombatsville). Son#1 and I agreed that we should call the hobby horse – Thirroul. Thirroul was a good horse.

ms spock said:

Michael V said:

ms spock said:

It is so weird what happened with Trump. But before that they meant a lot.

What happened?

They didn’t sue to have their music not used by Trump. (Most of the other musicians did). Trump then imitated an imitation of someone else dancing. Don’t watch it. It might turn you blind.

It’s kind of ironic with the Village People have sung some of the greatest gay anthems of our times.

There is a running joke that Trump was too dumb to know.

There’s been curiousity if any of his staff would tell him.

Or debate that Trump is gay/bisexual because his mentor was gay, but because of the brutality of his father that he could never come out.

Or maybe Trump is being malicious to Queer people?

The “I have had it” IHIP podcast keep doing break downs of Trump and the interesting fact that grinder always crashes when there is a Republican event in town. Grinder is a same sex hook up for men. IHIP have a theory about Trump that they discussed with Don Lemon (gay African American) who got sacked from MSM for some thing about Trump.

The Village People has life long resonances for me. The whole Trump and the Village People is a whole other universe. What if a section of the white racist Evangelical Christian Americans are just folks who can’t come out?

discussed with Don Lemon (gay African American) who got sacked from MSM for saying some thing about Trump.

Divine Angel said:

ACCC blocks Coles from opening another supermarket in Kalgoorlie.

Coles already have a Coles supermarket there. There’s also a Woolies, two IGAs, and two indie supermarkets.

“We disagree with the ACCC’s decision,” a Coles spokesperson said.

“Blocking the development of a new supermarket on a vacant site does not promote competition. It denies Kalgoorlie shoppers greater choice and convenience.”

How many supermarkets does a town of ~35,000 need?

There are around 4000 Coles, Woolworths, IGA and Aldi supermarkets in Australia. I suppose there are a few other things like Spudshed. There are another 4000 independents.

So if Kal was as well-served as Australia generally, then we would expect about 5 major supermarkets and 5 independent.

Right, now to deal with the P&C VP’s resignation which has just come through…

ms spock said:

ms spock said:

Michael V said:

What happened?

They didn’t sue to have their music not used by Trump. (Most of the other musicians did). Trump then imitated an imitation of someone else dancing. Don’t watch it. It might turn you blind.

It’s kind of ironic with the Village People have sung some of the greatest gay anthems of our times.

There is a running joke that Trump was too dumb to know.

There’s been curiousity if any of his staff would tell him.

Or debate that Trump is gay/bisexual because his mentor was gay, but because of the brutality of his father that he could never come out.

Or maybe Trump is being malicious to Queer people?

The “I have had it” IHIP podcast keep doing break downs of Trump and the interesting fact that grinder always crashes when there is a Republican event in town. Grinder is a same sex hook up for men. IHIP have a theory about Trump that they discussed with Don Lemon (gay African American) who got sacked from MSM for some thing about Trump.

The Village People has life long resonances for me. The whole Trump and the Village People is a whole other universe. What if a section of the white racist Evangelical Christian Americans are just folks who can’t come out?

discussed with Don Lemon (gay African American) who got sacked from MSM for saying some thing about Trump.

They could have Judas Priest playing Breaking The Law at conventions and rallies.

ms spock said:

What if a section of the white racist Evangelical Christian Americans are just folks who can’t come out?

mr kii’s friend, Mr PTSD, is definitely a closeted gay man. mr kii and I talked about it often, not because I was worried about their friendship, but because Mr PTSD had such a troubling mental health state.

I started calling him “Mr PTSD”* here because the guy presented with very obvious signs of PTSD and he refused to acknowledge that anything was wrong with his erratic behaviour. Suicidal ideation and access to a range of firearms. A Gulf War veteran, very volatile relationships with women and his father etc.

With mr kii’s support the guy finally got help from the VA and though it took many years he eventually came to embrace a lot of his mental, and physical, health issues.

My husband supported another veteran who had serious PTSD issues from being an Army Ranger sniper in Central and South America.

Mr PTSD latched onto my husband’s friendship in a very weird way, the other guy had a few wives along the way and eventually got the support that he needed to address his mental health with his last wife and mr kii’s friendship.

Anyway…Mr PTSD was very religious, very homophobic, and hated me. His religious journey travelled through Evangelical to Catholic, to a quick stint with Judaism, then back to Evangelical. He voted for Trump at least once.

*I know I shouldn’t call him this name, but it was a means to ID him here. He played a huge role in my life in the US.

Watching an Australian series – Plum. It’s about a guy who develops CTE – Chronic traumatic encephalopathy.

kii said:

Watching an Australian series – Plum. It’s about a guy who develops CTE – Chronic traumatic encephalopathy.

Brilliant series. With Asher Keddie.

The guy who plays Peter Lum also wrote it and was executive producer IIRC.

Michael V said:

ms spock said:

Michael V said:

What happened?

They didn’t sue to have their music not used by Trump. (Most of the other musicians did). Trump then imitated an imitation of someone else dancing. Don’t watch it. It might turn you blind.

It’s kind of ironic with the Village People have sung some of the greatest gay anthems of our times.

There is a running joke that Trump was too dumb to know.

There’s been curiousity if any of his staff would tell him.

Or debate that Trump is gay/bisexual because his mentor was gay, but because of the brutality of his father that he could never come out.

Or maybe Trump is being malicious to Queer people?

The “I have had it” IHIP podcast keep doing break downs of Trump and the interesting fact that grinder always crashes when there is a Republican event in town. Grinder is a same sex hook up for men. IHIP have a theory about Trump that they discussed with Don Lemon (gay African American) who got sacked from MSM for some thing about Trump.

The Village People has life long resonances for me. The whole Trump and the Village People is a whole other universe. What if a section of the white racist Evangelical Christian Americans are just folks who can’t come out?

Ta. Some odd notions there, that’s for sure.

It is so weird.

kii said:

ms spock said:

Bubblecar said:

Village People founding member, lead singer Victor Willis dead at 74

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/victor-willis-village-people-singer-obituary/106867416

😭

I saw then live once in Thirroul with a friend.

Ah, Thirroul!
When son#1 was a toddler we bought him a hobby horse from a shop in Thirroul. My parents lived in Wombarra at the time (or as we called it Wombatsville). Son#1 and I agreed that we should call the hobby horse – Thirroul. Thirroul was a good horse.

:) Wombarra that brings back some memories.

I removed species in Helensburgh so they weren’t crushed by the bulldozers.

Cymek said:

ms spock said:

ms spock said:

They didn’t sue to have their music not used by Trump. (Most of the other musicians did). Trump then imitated an imitation of someone else dancing. Don’t watch it. It might turn you blind.

It’s kind of ironic with the Village People have sung some of the greatest gay anthems of our times.

There is a running joke that Trump was too dumb to know.

There’s been curiousity if any of his staff would tell him.

Or debate that Trump is gay/bisexual because his mentor was gay, but because of the brutality of his father that he could never come out.

Or maybe Trump is being malicious to Queer people?

The “I have had it” IHIP podcast keep doing break downs of Trump and the interesting fact that grinder always crashes when there is a Republican event in town. Grinder is a same sex hook up for men. IHIP have a theory about Trump that they discussed with Don Lemon (gay African American) who got sacked from MSM for some thing about Trump.

The Village People has life long resonances for me. The whole Trump and the Village People is a whole other universe. What if a section of the white racist Evangelical Christian Americans are just folks who can’t come out?

discussed with Don Lemon (gay African American) who got sacked from MSM for saying some thing about Trump.

They could have Judas Priest playing Breaking The Law at conventions and rallies.

:) They could indeed.

kii said:

ms spock said:

What if a section of the white racist Evangelical Christian Americans are just folks who can’t come out?

mr kii’s friend, Mr PTSD, is definitely a closeted gay man. mr kii and I talked about it often, not because I was worried about their friendship, but because Mr PTSD had such a troubling mental health state.

I started calling him “Mr PTSD”* here because the guy presented with very obvious signs of PTSD and he refused to acknowledge that anything was wrong with his erratic behaviour. Suicidal ideation and access to a range of firearms. A Gulf War veteran, very volatile relationships with women and his father etc.

With mr kii’s support the guy finally got help from the VA and though it took many years he eventually came to embrace a lot of his mental, and physical, health issues.

My husband supported another veteran who had serious PTSD issues from being an Army Ranger sniper in Central and South America.

Mr PTSD latched onto my husband’s friendship in a very weird way, the other guy had a few wives along the way and eventually got the support that he needed to address his mental health with his last wife and mr kii’s friendship.

Anyway…Mr PTSD was very religious, very homophobic, and hated me. His religious journey travelled through Evangelical to Catholic, to a quick stint with Judaism, then back to Evangelical. He voted for Trump at least once.

*I know I shouldn’t call him this name, but it was a means to ID him here. He played a huge role in my life in the US.

It is so sad when folks can’t be who they are.

Email from Coles. After several weeks of no substitutions, suddenly various items are out of stock.

What you ordered: Cp Authentic Asia Hong Kong Duck 430GRAM

Ordered: 1 | Supplied: 0. No substitute.

What you ordered: Coles Pitted Green Olives With Thyme Garlic Red Wine approx. 100g

Ordered: 2 | Supplied: 0

What we’ve substituted

Coles Deli Green Olives With Chilli Garlic approx. 100g

Supplied: 1 (note that this is half the quantity of the ordered item).

What you ordered: Kroon Goats Cheese Wedge 200g

Ordered: 1 | Supplied: 0

What we’ve substituted: Tidbit Spanish Goats Cheese 150g

Supplied: 2 (at least that’s 100gm more).

Other substitutions were 2 different types of canned beans.

ms spock said:

kii said:

ms spock said:

What if a section of the white racist Evangelical Christian Americans are just folks who can’t come out?

mr kii’s friend, Mr PTSD, is definitely a closeted gay man. mr kii and I talked about it often, not because I was worried about their friendship, but because Mr PTSD had such a troubling mental health state.

I started calling him “Mr PTSD”* here because the guy presented with very obvious signs of PTSD and he refused to acknowledge that anything was wrong with his erratic behaviour. Suicidal ideation and access to a range of firearms. A Gulf War veteran, very volatile relationships with women and his father etc.

With mr kii’s support the guy finally got help from the VA and though it took many years he eventually came to embrace a lot of his mental, and physical, health issues.

My husband supported another veteran who had serious PTSD issues from being an Army Ranger sniper in Central and South America.

Mr PTSD latched onto my husband’s friendship in a very weird way, the other guy had a few wives along the way and eventually got the support that he needed to address his mental health with his last wife and mr kii’s friendship.

Anyway…Mr PTSD was very religious, very homophobic, and hated me. His religious journey travelled through Evangelical to Catholic, to a quick stint with Judaism, then back to Evangelical. He voted for Trump at least once.

*I know I shouldn’t call him this name, but it was a means to ID him here. He played a huge role in my life in the US.

It is so sad when folks can’t be who they are.

Or when you don’t feel any purpose to your existence

Bubblecar said:

Email from Coles. After several weeks of no substitutions, suddenly various items are out of stock.

What you ordered: Cp Authentic Asia Hong Kong Duck 430GRAM

Ordered: 1 | Supplied: 0. No substitute.

What you ordered: Coles Pitted Green Olives With Thyme Garlic Red Wine approx. 100g

Ordered: 2 | Supplied: 0

What we’ve substituted

Coles Deli Green Olives With Chilli Garlic approx. 100g

Supplied: 1 (note that this is half the quantity of the ordered item).

What you ordered: Kroon Goats Cheese Wedge 200g

Ordered: 1 | Supplied: 0

What we’ve substituted: Tidbit Spanish Goats Cheese 150g

Supplied: 2 (at least that’s 100gm more).

Other substitutions were 2 different types of canned beans.

What sort of a busted arsed store are they running,
shakes head

Suppose I’d better blow-dry my hair, get some shoes on and go and get those bins in.

Bubblecar said:

Suppose I’d better blow-dry my hair, get some shoes on and go and get those bins in.

Yes, you want to look your best.

Bubblecar said:

Email from Coles. After several weeks of no substitutions, suddenly various items are out of stock.

What you ordered: Cp Authentic Asia Hong Kong Duck 430GRAM

Ordered: 1 | Supplied: 0. No substitute.

What you ordered: Coles Pitted Green Olives With Thyme Garlic Red Wine approx. 100g

Ordered: 2 | Supplied: 0

What we’ve substituted

Coles Deli Green Olives With Chilli Garlic approx. 100g

Supplied: 1 (note that this is half the quantity of the ordered item).

What you ordered: Kroon Goats Cheese Wedge 200g

Ordered: 1 | Supplied: 0

What we’ve substituted: Tidbit Spanish Goats Cheese 150g

Supplied: 2 (at least that’s 100gm more).

Other substitutions were 2 different types of canned beans.

Are you okay with the substitutions?

Cymek said:

ms spock said:

kii said:

mr kii’s friend, Mr PTSD, is definitely a closeted gay man. mr kii and I talked about it often, not because I was worried about their friendship, but because Mr PTSD had such a troubling mental health state.

I started calling him “Mr PTSD”* here because the guy presented with very obvious signs of PTSD and he refused to acknowledge that anything was wrong with his erratic behaviour. Suicidal ideation and access to a range of firearms. A Gulf War veteran, very volatile relationships with women and his father etc.

With mr kii’s support the guy finally got help from the VA and though it took many years he eventually came to embrace a lot of his mental, and physical, health issues.

My husband supported another veteran who had serious PTSD issues from being an Army Ranger sniper in Central and South America.

Mr PTSD latched onto my husband’s friendship in a very weird way, the other guy had a few wives along the way and eventually got the support that he needed to address his mental health with his last wife and mr kii’s friendship.

Anyway…Mr PTSD was very religious, very homophobic, and hated me. His religious journey travelled through Evangelical to Catholic, to a quick stint with Judaism, then back to Evangelical. He voted for Trump at least once.

*I know I shouldn’t call him this name, but it was a means to ID him here. He played a huge role in my life in the US.

It is so sad when folks can’t be who they are.

Or when you don’t feel any purpose to your existence

That is tough to not feel any purpose to your existence Cymek. I don’t know what the next part of my journey will be like. I am feeling pretty lost about it all. I thought that potentially that I had some knowledge to share. But that did not work out. I am searching for another path.

Have you been able to go to the dog park lately Cymek and get some doggy pats and cuddles?

ms spock said:

Bubblecar said:

Email from Coles. After several weeks of no substitutions, suddenly various items are out of stock.

What you ordered: Cp Authentic Asia Hong Kong Duck 430GRAM

Ordered: 1 | Supplied: 0. No substitute.

What you ordered: Coles Pitted Green Olives With Thyme Garlic Red Wine approx. 100g

Ordered: 2 | Supplied: 0

What we’ve substituted

Coles Deli Green Olives With Chilli Garlic approx. 100g

Supplied: 1 (note that this is half the quantity of the ordered item).

What you ordered: Kroon Goats Cheese Wedge 200g

Ordered: 1 | Supplied: 0

What we’ve substituted: Tidbit Spanish Goats Cheese 150g

Supplied: 2 (at least that’s 100gm more).

Other substitutions were 2 different types of canned beans.

Are you okay with the substitutions?

Well the olives I ordered are nicer than the ones supplied, and they only supplied half the amount according to that list (but it might be wrong).

The beans I ordered were more expensive than the Coles own ones substituted, but I’ll be charged at the lower price, and Coles ones are acceptable.

Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

ms spock said:

It is so weird what happened with Trump. But before that they meant a lot.

What happened?

AI says:

Donald Trump frequently used the Village People’s 1978 hit song “Y.M.C.A.” as a signature track at his campaign rallies. He also utilized their track “Macho Man”.While the band originally asked him to stop using their music in 2020, the relationship later changed.

Frontman Victor Willis embraced Trump’s use of the song after it caused a massive resurgence in the track’s popularity and royalties. The band even performed “Y.M.C.A.” live at events surrounding Trump’s second inauguration in 2025.

It totally did my head in.

Not “The Village People!”

They are ours!

ms spock said:

Cymek said:

ms spock said:

It is so sad when folks can’t be who they are.

Or when you don’t feel any purpose to your existence

That is tough to not feel any purpose to your existence Cymek. I don’t know what the next part of my journey will be like. I am feeling pretty lost about it all. I thought that potentially that I had some knowledge to share. But that did not work out. I am searching for another path.

Have you been able to go to the dog park lately Cymek and get some doggy pats and cuddles?

I will go this weekend, last weekend was raining
It’s a good suggestion
I don’t like having depression (obviously) but I don’t remember anything else.
Makes we wonder if I was born broken.
Especially the last few years as everything I worked hard for is gone.

Bubblecar said:

ms spock said:

Bubblecar said:

Email from Coles. After several weeks of no substitutions, suddenly various items are out of stock.

What you ordered: Cp Authentic Asia Hong Kong Duck 430GRAM

Ordered: 1 | Supplied: 0. No substitute.

What you ordered: Coles Pitted Green Olives With Thyme Garlic Red Wine approx. 100g

Ordered: 2 | Supplied: 0

What we’ve substituted

Coles Deli Green Olives With Chilli Garlic approx. 100g

Supplied: 1 (note that this is half the quantity of the ordered item).

What you ordered: Kroon Goats Cheese Wedge 200g

Ordered: 1 | Supplied: 0

What we’ve substituted: Tidbit Spanish Goats Cheese 150g

Supplied: 2 (at least that’s 100gm more).

Other substitutions were 2 different types of canned beans.

Are you okay with the substitutions?

Well the olives I ordered are nicer than the ones supplied, and they only supplied half the amount according to that list (but it might be wrong).

The beans I ordered were more expensive than the Coles own ones substituted, but I’ll be charged at the lower price, and Coles ones are acceptable.

I hope that you receive a recompense for the half weight of olives that arrived.

Cymek said:

ms spock said:

Cymek said:

Or when you don’t feel any purpose to your existence

That is tough to not feel any purpose to your existence Cymek. I don’t know what the next part of my journey will be like. I am feeling pretty lost about it all. I thought that potentially that I had some knowledge to share. But that did not work out. I am searching for another path.

Have you been able to go to the dog park lately Cymek and get some doggy pats and cuddles?

I will go this weekend, last weekend was raining
It’s a good suggestion
I don’t like having depression (obviously) but I don’t remember anything else.
Makes we wonder if I was born broken.
Especially the last few years as everything I worked hard for is gone.

If you can afford it have you considered seeing a psychologist/therapist? Talking things out might be helpful.

Cymek said:

ms spock said:

kii said:

mr kii’s friend, Mr PTSD, is definitely a closeted gay man. mr kii and I talked about it often, not because I was worried about their friendship, but because Mr PTSD had such a troubling mental health state.

I started calling him “Mr PTSD”* here because the guy presented with very obvious signs of PTSD and he refused to acknowledge that anything was wrong with his erratic behaviour. Suicidal ideation and access to a range of firearms. A Gulf War veteran, very volatile relationships with women and his father etc.

With mr kii’s support the guy finally got help from the VA and though it took many years he eventually came to embrace a lot of his mental, and physical, health issues.

My husband supported another veteran who had serious PTSD issues from being an Army Ranger sniper in Central and South America.

Mr PTSD latched onto my husband’s friendship in a very weird way, the other guy had a few wives along the way and eventually got the support that he needed to address his mental health with his last wife and mr kii’s friendship.

Anyway…Mr PTSD was very religious, very homophobic, and hated me. His religious journey travelled through Evangelical to Catholic, to a quick stint with Judaism, then back to Evangelical. He voted for Trump at least once.

*I know I shouldn’t call him this name, but it was a means to ID him here. He played a huge role in my life in the US.

It is so sad when folks can’t be who they are.

Or when you don’t feel any purpose to your existence

Bummer. That’s no good. I know. I really know.

ms spock said:

Bubblecar said:

ms spock said:

Are you okay with the substitutions?

Well the olives I ordered are nicer than the ones supplied, and they only supplied half the amount according to that list (but it might be wrong).

The beans I ordered were more expensive than the Coles own ones substituted, but I’ll be charged at the lower price, and Coles ones are acceptable.

I hope that you receive a recompense for the half weight of olives that arrived.

With all substitutions you’re charged at whichever’s the lower price – your original order or the substitute.

Anyway the actual delivery won’t be for at least another hour.

Cymek said:

ms spock said:

Cymek said:

Or when you don’t feel any purpose to your existence

That is tough to not feel any purpose to your existence Cymek. I don’t know what the next part of my journey will be like. I am feeling pretty lost about it all. I thought that potentially that I had some knowledge to share. But that did not work out. I am searching for another path.

Have you been able to go to the dog park lately Cymek and get some doggy pats and cuddles?

I will go this weekend, last weekend was raining
It’s a good suggestion
I don’t like having depression (obviously) but I don’t remember anything else.
Makes we wonder if I was born broken.
Especially the last few years as everything I worked hard for is gone.

Depression is hard Cymek. And when we are in it. There seems like there were never ever any other place we have ever been. It feels like the depression is our only experience.

I have wondered if I was born broken, at times, too, Cymek. It is an uncomfortable and painful place to be. My brain does not work the way that other peoples brains work. What does being broken feel like for you?

I feel for you Cymek especially, as the last few years, as everything that you worked hard for is gone. That must bring a lot of emotions up for you?

You don’t have to answer any questions that I have asked. I do mean well, but I often don’t get it right.

I felt for you when you said that the only get hugs was at the dog park. That’s really tough.

I hope that you keep posting Cymek.

🍀

ms spock said:

Bubblecar said:

Village People founding member, lead singer Victor Willis dead at 74

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-01/victor-willis-village-people-singer-obituary/106867416

😭

I saw then live once in Thirroul with a friend.

Was that the “VP without Victor Willis out front” or the “Victor Willis and a bunch of ring-ins” that came later?

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

ACCC blocks Coles from opening another supermarket in Kalgoorlie.

Coles already have a Coles supermarket there. There’s also a Woolies, two IGAs, and two indie supermarkets.

“We disagree with the ACCC’s decision,” a Coles spokesperson said.

“Blocking the development of a new supermarket on a vacant site does not promote competition. It denies Kalgoorlie shoppers greater choice and convenience.”

How many supermarkets does a town of ~35,000 need?

There are around 4000 Coles, Woolworths, IGA and Aldi supermarkets in Australia. I suppose there are a few other things like Spudshed. There are another 4000 independents.

So if Kal was as well-served as Australia generally, then we would expect about 5 major supermarkets and 5 independent.

We have two Woolworths but only one Coles.

Cymek said:

Or when you don’t feel any purpose to your existence

I don’t feel I have any purpose to my existence, Mr Mek. It doesn’t bother me.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Cymek said:

ms spock said:

That is tough to not feel any purpose to your existence Cymek. I don’t know what the next part of my journey will be like. I am feeling pretty lost about it all. I thought that potentially that I had some knowledge to share. But that did not work out. I am searching for another path.

Have you been able to go to the dog park lately Cymek and get some doggy pats and cuddles?

I will go this weekend, last weekend was raining
It’s a good suggestion
I don’t like having depression (obviously) but I don’t remember anything else.
Makes we wonder if I was born broken.
Especially the last few years as everything I worked hard for is gone.

If you can afford it have you considered seeing a psychologist/therapist? Talking things out might be helpful.

+1

I don’t know if is useful but there are phone lines like Life Line and you can ring as many times in a day as you need/want to.

good afternoon all – sending out positive vibes to all who need them.

Just got back from taking dad to see the dermatologist – his problem scalp is improving – I am the only one he lets put the cream on sigh

Had a lovely day with him when Australia was playing in the World cup. As it was a respectable hour – I managed to get dad over to watch the game and we had sausage rolls and Riesling – it was a happy memory made.

we are getting the kitchen and laundry renovated in about 2 weeks time, so clearing out 13 years of accumulated junk and expired food from the cupboards.

Michael V said:

Cymek said:

ms spock said:

It is so sad when folks can’t be who they are.

Or when you don’t feel any purpose to your existence

Bummer. That’s no good. I know. I really know.

+1

Bubblecar said:

Anyway the actual delivery won’t be for at least another hour.

Seems like mostly you’re last on the delivery list?

Brindabellas said:

good afternoon all – sending out positive vibes to all who need them.

Just got back from taking dad to see the dermatologist – his problem scalp is improving – I am the only one he lets put the cream on sigh

Had a lovely day with him when Australia was playing in the World cup. As it was a respectable hour – I managed to get dad over to watch the game and we had sausage rolls and Riesling – it was a happy memory made.

we are getting the kitchen and laundry renovated in about 2 weeks time, so clearing out 13 years of accumulated junk and expired food from the cupboards.

:)

Glad your Dad is enjoying the feetball.

Brindabellas said:

good afternoon all – sending out positive vibes to all who need them.

Just got back from taking dad to see the dermatologist – his problem scalp is improving – I am the only one he lets put the cream on sigh

Had a lovely day with him when Australia was playing in the World cup. As it was a respectable hour – I managed to get dad over to watch the game and we had sausage rolls and Riesling – it was a happy memory made.

we are getting the kitchen and laundry renovated in about 2 weeks time, so clearing out 13 years of accumulated junk and expired food from the cupboards.

“I am the only one he lets put the cream on sigh”

Good thing it’s only his scalp, then

Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

Anyway the actual delivery won’t be for at least another hour.

Seems like mostly you’re last on the delivery list?

So glad I dont have to rely on coles delivery anymore. Hubby and I go to different places to get our supplies- there is a good micro farmers market where we get our eggs and potatoes. And tomorrow we are having an outing to go to Aldi, so I can stock up on their chocolate and snack supplies for Dad

Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

Anyway the actual delivery won’t be for at least another hour.

Seems like mostly you’re last on the delivery list?

It’s ‘cos I usually choose the $2 slot of 2pm – 8pm. In practice it’s usually towards the end of that (tonight’s is between 4pm and 5pm).

Bubblecar said:

ms spock said:

Bubblecar said:

Well the olives I ordered are nicer than the ones supplied, and they only supplied half the amount according to that list (but it might be wrong).

The beans I ordered were more expensive than the Coles own ones substituted, but I’ll be charged at the lower price, and Coles ones are acceptable.

I hope that you receive a recompense for the half weight of olives that arrived.

With all substitutions you’re charged at whichever’s the lower price – your original order or the substitute.

Hmm

Brindabellas said:

good afternoon all – sending out positive vibes to all who need them.

Just got back from taking dad to see the dermatologist – his problem scalp is improving – I am the only one he lets put the cream on sigh

Had a lovely day with him when Australia was playing in the World cup. As it was a respectable hour – I managed to get dad over to watch the game and we had sausage rolls and Riesling – it was a happy memory made.

we are getting the kitchen and laundry renovated in about 2 weeks time, so clearing out 13 years of accumulated junk and expired food from the cupboards.

Still got tins of Spam from the war in the pantry, Ms Bellas?