Date: 19/07/2026 06:44:40
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2412449
Subject: US Politics 2026 #2

Being mid-year, it’s time we have another thread.

https://thirdtermproject.com/

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Date: 21/07/2026 10:50:26
From: Cymek
ID: 2413065
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-21/us-imposes-50pc-tariffs-on-canada/106938910

Mark Carney “You will remove the tariffs and we will not bomb the Baldwins”
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Date: 21/07/2026 13:58:28
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2413114
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-21/us-imposes-50pc-tariffs-on-canada/106938910

Mark Carney “You will remove the tariffs and we will not bomb the Baldwins”

Today, the United States administration announced its intention to impose a new 50% tariff on a significant number of Canadian goods.

This is the latest in a series of unilateral U.S. trade actions that began with the U.S. imposing a series of tariffs in direct violation of the Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement (CUSMA), the free trade agreement between Canada, the United States, and Mexico.

These include tariffs on the Canadian auto sector, in violation of CUSMA. Canada, as is its right, has merely matched those measures.

More broadly, in response to these measures and threats to Canadian sovereignty, provinces, territories, and Canadians from coast to coast to coast have stood together, taking the necessary actions to support our economy and defend our workers, farmers, businesses, and families.

Recognising that the U.S. has been transforming all of its trade relationships, including those covered under CUSMA, over the past 18 months, Canada has made a series of detailed and comprehensive proposals to resolve this dispute and to modernise CUSMA. We stand ready to intensify those discussions in the coming weeks.

Canada believes in the benefits of free and fair trade, as evidenced by our new government signing more than 20 new economic and security partnerships. This trade dispute has raised costs for families, particularly in the U.S. Canada stands ready to engage intensively to address outstanding issues with the U.S. to the mutual benefit of our citizens.

In all circumstances, Canada will work relentlessly and take any measures necessary to build our strength at home and to support Canadian workers, farmers, businesses, and families.

https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/statements/2026/07/20/statement-prime-minister-carney-united-states-administrations-intention

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Date: 21/07/2026 17:57:37
From: Ian
ID: 2413151
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Jon Stewart

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Date: 21/07/2026 19:18:16
From: buffy
ID: 2413166
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ian said:


Jon Stewart

Thanks for that one.

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Date: 21/07/2026 19:28:24
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2413168
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

We aren’t going survive as a viable species much longer I think.
Darwinism isn’t working fast enough.

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Date: 21/07/2026 19:30:38
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2413169
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


We aren’t going survive as a viable species much longer I think.
Darwinism isn’t working fast enough.

We just need another pandemic 👍🏼

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Date: 21/07/2026 19:32:31
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2413170
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

We aren’t going survive as a viable species much longer I think.
Darwinism isn’t working fast enough.

We just need another pandemic 👍🏼

I’ll see what I can organise.

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Date: 21/07/2026 19:57:46
From: ms spock
ID: 2413173
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

We aren’t going survive as a viable species much longer I think.
Darwinism isn’t working fast enough.

We just need another pandemic 👍🏼

Bird Flu and Ebola are on their way.

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Date: 21/07/2026 20:24:21
From: ms spock
ID: 2413185
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Danielle Moodie was an MSNow/MSNBC and CNN contributor.

Link

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Date: 21/07/2026 20:55:17
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2413197
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Divine Angel said:

Spiny Norman said:

We aren’t going survive as a viable species much longer I think.
Darwinism isn’t working fast enough.

We just need another pandemic 👍🏼

Bird Flu and Ebola are on their way.

Don’t forget the explosive diarrhea!

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Date: 21/07/2026 21:18:32
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2413204
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:

We just need another pandemic 👍🏼

Bird Flu and Ebola are on their way.

Don’t forget the explosive diarrhea!

Once experienced, never forgotten.

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Date: 22/07/2026 08:55:33
From: ms spock
ID: 2413258
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:

We just need another pandemic 👍🏼

Bird Flu and Ebola are on their way.

Don’t forget the explosive diarrhea!

Indeed!

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Date: 22/07/2026 11:34:28
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2413338
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I do wish Pete B was in the top job. He’d be bloody great I reckon.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uAz3mo61S_c

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Date: 22/07/2026 18:58:54
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2413490
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 22/07/2026 19:04:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2413492
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


mahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Date: 25/07/2026 09:01:45
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2414142
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

White House admits it scrapped grants to blue states because they didn’t vote for Trump

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/white-house-grants-blue-states-trump-vought-vote-2024-election

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Date: 25/07/2026 09:43:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2414149
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


White House admits it scrapped grants to blue states because they didn’t vote for Trump

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/white-house-grants-blue-states-trump-vought-vote-2024-election

fish barreling

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Date: 28/07/2026 11:43:56
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2414979
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo suggested Friday that opposition to abortion could have helped fuel a measles outbreak in Florida since many cases are tied to a private Roman Catholic college.

Federal data show Florida had 141 confirmed measles cases as of July 23, ranking the state fifth in the nation for most infections.

During a press conference in Orlando Friday, a reporter asked Ladapo about his level of concern about the measles cases and what he’d tell Florida families about the rising number of cases.

The surgeon general, long known for his vaccine skepticism, initially replied, “Oh no. Everyone’s got to take a vaccine.”

But he followed noting that “a lot of those cases” were reported at Ave Maria University, a private Roman Catholic college in Collier County. Ninety-three measles cases were reported in Collier County where the university is located.

“You know, for some people — people may or may not know that the measles vaccines is developed with the cells that are a progeny from … an aborted fetus, and you know whether there’s a connection between the fact that you know some of the students at this university chose not to receive that vaccine, and it happens to be a vaccine that is related to the practice of abortion, I’m not sure.”

https://floridaphoenix.com/2026/07/24/surgeon-general-suggests-high-measles-counts-could-be-tied-to-abortion-opposition/

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Date: 28/07/2026 11:48:58
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2414981
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

“There’s no place I’d rather be on the first Saturday in August than with the good people of western Kentucky, feasting on pork and mutton,” McConnell said. “When I first attended 42 years ago, Fancy Farm was a pretty lonely place to be a Republican. But, my, how times have changed. Today, western Kentucky is a conservative Republican sea of red. So I hate that I’ll miss the fun this year, but I’m sending my best wishes to the St. Jerome community for a successful picnic.”

https://kentuckylantern.com/2026/07/27/mcconnell-shares-second-photo-amid-absence-says-he-will-not-attend-kentucky-political-event/

✨✨✨
How tragic that he will die suddenly next Tuesday.

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Date: 28/07/2026 11:59:06
From: Cymek
ID: 2414983
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


“There’s no place I’d rather be on the first Saturday in August than with the good people of western Kentucky, feasting on pork and mutton,” McConnell said. “When I first attended 42 years ago, Fancy Farm was a pretty lonely place to be a Republican. But, my, how times have changed. Today, western Kentucky is a conservative Republican sea of red. So I hate that I’ll miss the fun this year, but I’m sending my best wishes to the St. Jerome community for a successful picnic.”

https://kentuckylantern.com/2026/07/27/mcconnell-shares-second-photo-amid-absence-says-he-will-not-attend-kentucky-political-event/

✨✨✨
How tragic that he will die suddenly next Tuesday.

He looks like he could wander outside of a locked ward and have an “accident’

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Date: 28/07/2026 12:20:18
From: ms spock
ID: 2415002
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo suggested Friday that opposition to abortion could have helped fuel a measles outbreak in Florida since many cases are tied to a private Roman Catholic college.

Federal data show Florida had 141 confirmed measles cases as of July 23, ranking the state fifth in the nation for most infections.

During a press conference in Orlando Friday, a reporter asked Ladapo about his level of concern about the measles cases and what he’d tell Florida families about the rising number of cases.

The surgeon general, long known for his vaccine skepticism, initially replied, “Oh no. Everyone’s got to take a vaccine.”

But he followed noting that “a lot of those cases” were reported at Ave Maria University, a private Roman Catholic college in Collier County. Ninety-three measles cases were reported in Collier County where the university is located.

“You know, for some people — people may or may not know that the measles vaccines is developed with the cells that are a progeny from … an aborted fetus, and you know whether there’s a connection between the fact that you know some of the students at this university chose not to receive that vaccine, and it happens to be a vaccine that is related to the practice of abortion, I’m not sure.”

https://floridaphoenix.com/2026/07/24/surgeon-general-suggests-high-measles-counts-could-be-tied-to-abortion-opposition/

Interesting child rape was so not a problem and okay that the rotated child rapist priests from parish to parish.

There’s too many insane people in this world.

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Date: 28/07/2026 12:21:49
From: ms spock
ID: 2415003
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Comments on the building of AI Data Centres.

Link

3 minutes

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Date: 28/07/2026 18:23:25
From: Ian
ID: 2415116
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Jon Stewart

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Date: 28/07/2026 18:28:24
From: ms spock
ID: 2415118
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

BREAKING: Trump’s DOJ asks Supreme Court to Let Him Block Your Mail Ballot

Link

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Date: 28/07/2026 20:58:27
From: ms spock
ID: 2415143
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

’Bad news’ for Trump and GOP with 99 days until the midterms | MS NOW Analysis

MS NOW (MSNBC)

Link

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Date: 29/07/2026 07:04:47
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2415187
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 29/07/2026 07:04:47
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2415188
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 29/07/2026 07:54:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 2415190
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



Yes but RFK leaves his wife to fend for herself in the aftermath of the shooting incident at th dinner.

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Date: 29/07/2026 08:00:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415191
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

well how many sigma does it have to be to be ruled out

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Date: 29/07/2026 10:14:24
From: buffy
ID: 2415209
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Robert Reich on the American Declaration of Independence

Thanks to my Houston sister, again.

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Date: 29/07/2026 10:21:42
From: Cymek
ID: 2415211
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Robert Reich on the American Declaration of Independence

Thanks to my Houston sister, again.

Good you received it and no problems

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Date: 29/07/2026 10:31:15
From: buffy
ID: 2415212
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


buffy said:

Robert Reich on the American Declaration of Independence

Thanks to my Houston sister, again.

Good you received it and no problems

She’s got it up on her Facebook.

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Date: 29/07/2026 10:38:17
From: ms spock
ID: 2415214
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Robert Reich on the American Declaration of Independence

Thanks to my Houston sister, again.

Ta buffy’s sister.

Robert Reich just keeps on educating folks.

He does a Coffee Klatch once per week.

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Date: 29/07/2026 10:53:27
From: ms spock
ID: 2415219
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



That is most concerning.

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Date: 29/07/2026 11:00:12
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2415222
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Divine Angel said:


That is most concerning.

Stop the world, I want to get off. :(

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Date: 29/07/2026 11:06:29
From: Cymek
ID: 2415226
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:


That is most concerning.

Stop the world, I want to get off. :(

The anti vaccines movement really is so many steps backwards for humanity
I can understand the worry of side effects but none of its based on reality.

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Date: 29/07/2026 11:07:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2415227
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Divine Angel said:


That is most concerning.

I suggest that if you read the page:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/about/autism.html

you may find that there’s rather less cause for concern than that screenshot alone would indicate.

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Date: 29/07/2026 11:19:08
From: kii
ID: 2415233
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:


Yes but RFK leaves his wife to fend for herself in the aftermath of the shooting incident at th dinner.

Lololol 😹
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

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Date: 29/07/2026 11:20:59
From: dv
ID: 2415235
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:


That is most concerning.

I suggest that if you read the page:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/about/autism.html

you may find that there’s rather less cause for concern than that screenshot alone would indicate.

I did. It’s very concerning.


State of the Evidence: MMR Vaccine

The MMR vaccine has been studied regarding autism, and the reviews from IOM and AHRQ maintain with a high strength of evidence that there is no association with autism spectrum disorders based on observational evidence only.

However, in 2012, the IOM reviewed the published MMR-autism studies and found that all but four of them had “serious methodological limitations,” and the IOM gave them no weight. The remaining four studies and a few similar studies published since also have all been criticized for serious methodological flaws. Furthermore, they are all retrospective epidemiological studies which cannot prove causation, fail to account for potential vulnerable subgroups, and fail to account for mechanistic and other evidence linking vaccines with autism.

Many of the retrospective studies utilized, such as the 2002 New England Journal of Medicine study on the Denmark population, may be unreliable for the U.S. population. Children in these studies receive vaccines based on foreign vaccination schedules that differ from the schedule in the U.S. As outlined in the 2013 IOM report on the childhood immunization schedule, “there are few comparative studies evaluating the safety of different vaccine schedules,” but “there are cases in which the risk of adverse events can depend on the vaccination schedule used and factors such as timing and adjuvants should be studied with appropriate design methods.”

For example, the MMR vaccine does not contain aluminum. However, other infant vaccines have aluminum content ranging from 0.25 mg to 0.625 mg per dose (DTaP has the highest content). One analysis found that the 2019 CDC vaccine schedule resulted in 4.925 mg of total vaccine-related aluminum exposure by age 18 months. There is evidence in the U.S. of a positive association between vaccine-related aluminum exposure and persistent asthma. Evidence from a large Danish cohort study reported no increased risk for neurodevelopmental disorders with early childhood exposure to aluminum-adsorbed vaccines, but a detailed review of the supplementary tables shows some higher event rates of neurodevelopmental conditions with moderate aluminum exposure (Supplement Figure 11 — though a dose response was not evident) and a statistically significant 67% increased risk of Asperger’s syndrome per 1 mg increase in aluminum exposure among children born between 2007 and 2018 (Supplement Figure 4). Together, these findings warrant further investigation of aluminum exposures (high, low, and none) for a variety of childhood chronic diseases, including autism.

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Date: 29/07/2026 11:27:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2415238
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


captain_spalding said:

ms spock said:

I suggest that if you read the page:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/about/autism.html

you may find that there’s rather less cause for concern than that screenshot alone would indicate.

I did. It’s very concerning.


State of the Evidence: MMR Vaccine

The MMR vaccine has been studied regarding autism, and the reviews from IOM and AHRQ maintain with a high strength of evidence that there is no association with autism spectrum disorders based on observational evidence only.

However, in 2012, the IOM reviewed the published MMR-autism studies and found that all but four of them had “serious methodological limitations,” and the IOM gave them no weight. The remaining four studies and a few similar studies published since also have all been criticized for serious methodological flaws. Furthermore, they are all retrospective epidemiological studies which cannot prove causation, fail to account for potential vulnerable subgroups, and fail to account for mechanistic and other evidence linking vaccines with autism.

Many of the retrospective studies utilized, such as the 2002 New England Journal of Medicine study on the Denmark population, may be unreliable for the U.S. population. Children in these studies receive vaccines based on foreign vaccination schedules that differ from the schedule in the U.S. As outlined in the 2013 IOM report on the childhood immunization schedule, “there are few comparative studies evaluating the safety of different vaccine schedules,” but “there are cases in which the risk of adverse events can depend on the vaccination schedule used and factors such as timing and adjuvants should be studied with appropriate design methods.”

For example, the MMR vaccine does not contain aluminum. However, other infant vaccines have aluminum content ranging from 0.25 mg to 0.625 mg per dose (DTaP has the highest content). One analysis found that the 2019 CDC vaccine schedule resulted in 4.925 mg of total vaccine-related aluminum exposure by age 18 months. There is evidence in the U.S. of a positive association between vaccine-related aluminum exposure and persistent asthma. Evidence from a large Danish cohort study reported no increased risk for neurodevelopmental disorders with early childhood exposure to aluminum-adsorbed vaccines, but a detailed review of the supplementary tables shows some higher event rates of neurodevelopmental conditions with moderate aluminum exposure (Supplement Figure 11 — though a dose response was not evident) and a statistically significant 67% increased risk of Asperger’s syndrome per 1 mg increase in aluminum exposure among children born between 2007 and 2018 (Supplement Figure 4). Together, these findings warrant further investigation of aluminum exposures (high, low, and none) for a variety of childhood chronic diseases, including autism.


I took it as, “OK, calm down, tinfoil brigade’, we’ll take a look at whatever comes along about vaccines, and, if it holds up to scrutiny and seems to have some scientific value, we’ll tell you about it here”.

Not “we’re throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and we think that the wackos are on to something”.

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Date: 29/07/2026 11:42:19
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2415245
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Spiny Norman said:

ms spock said:

That is most concerning.

Stop the world, I want to get off. :(

The anti vaccines movement really is so many steps backwards for humanity
I can understand the worry of side effects but none of its based on reality.

Imagine thinking autism is worse than child death, physical disability like losing use of limbs (polio), or acquired brain injury.

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Date: 29/07/2026 12:25:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415256
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Cymek said:

Spiny Norman said:

Stop the world, I want to get off. :(

The anti vaccines movement really is so many steps backwards for humanity
I can understand the worry of side effects but none of its based on reality.

Imagine thinking autism is worse than child death, physical disability like losing use of limbs (polio), or acquired brain injury.

surely autism allegedly caused by vaccination is an allegedly acquired brain injury

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Date: 29/07/2026 12:27:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415257
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

captain_spalding said:

I did. It’s very concerning.


State of the Evidence: MMR Vaccine

The MMR vaccine has been studied regarding autism, and the reviews from IOM and AHRQ maintain with a high strength of evidence that there is no association with autism spectrum disorders based on observational evidence only.

However, in 2012, the IOM reviewed the published MMR-autism studies and found that all but four of them had “serious methodological limitations,” and the IOM gave them no weight. The remaining four studies and a few similar studies published since also have all been criticized for serious methodological flaws. Furthermore, they are all retrospective epidemiological studies which cannot prove causation, fail to account for potential vulnerable subgroups, and fail to account for mechanistic and other evidence linking vaccines with autism.

Many of the retrospective studies utilized, such as the 2002 New England Journal of Medicine study on the Denmark population, may be unreliable for the U.S. population. Children in these studies receive vaccines based on foreign vaccination schedules that differ from the schedule in the U.S. As outlined in the 2013 IOM report on the childhood immunization schedule, “there are few comparative studies evaluating the safety of different vaccine schedules,” but “there are cases in which the risk of adverse events can depend on the vaccination schedule used and factors such as timing and adjuvants should be studied with appropriate design methods.”

For example, the MMR vaccine does not contain aluminum. However, other infant vaccines have aluminum content ranging from 0.25 mg to 0.625 mg per dose (DTaP has the highest content). One analysis found that the 2019 CDC vaccine schedule resulted in 4.925 mg of total vaccine-related aluminum exposure by age 18 months. There is evidence in the U.S. of a positive association between vaccine-related aluminum exposure and persistent asthma. Evidence from a large Danish cohort study reported no increased risk for neurodevelopmental disorders with early childhood exposure to aluminum-adsorbed vaccines, but a detailed review of the supplementary tables shows some higher event rates of neurodevelopmental conditions with moderate aluminum exposure (Supplement Figure 11 — though a dose response was not evident) and a statistically significant 67% increased risk of Asperger’s syndrome per 1 mg increase in aluminum exposure among children born between 2007 and 2018 (Supplement Figure 4). Together, these findings warrant further investigation of aluminum exposures (high, low, and none) for a variety of childhood chronic diseases, including autism.


I took it as, “OK, calm down, tinfoil brigade’, we’ll take a look at whatever comes along about vaccines, and, if it holds up to scrutiny and seems to have some scientific value, we’ll tell you about it here”.

Not “we’re throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and we think that the wackos are on to something”.

pretty sure “just asking questions” is an innocuous wish to simply be more personally informed Abbie inoculations, there’s no agenda and no harm

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Date: 29/07/2026 12:32:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415259
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:


Yes but RFK leaves his wife to fend for herself in the aftermath of the shooting incident at th dinner.

Lololol 😹
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

wait is this not rfks doing

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Date: 29/07/2026 12:33:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415260
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Spiny Norman said:

ms spock said:

That is most concerning.

Stop the world, I want to get off. :(

The anti vaccines movement really is so many steps backwards for humanity
I can understand the worry of side effects but none of its based on reality.

well too bad violating people’s bodily sovereignty is communism

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Date: 29/07/2026 12:53:54
From: buffy
ID: 2415265
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Good grief!

FIFA boss Infantino unveils $US20b plan to sell World Cup to Kushner consortium

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Date: 29/07/2026 12:57:01
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2415267
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Good grief!

FIFA boss Infantino unveils $US20b plan to sell World Cup to Kushner consortium

And there’ll be a world cup all year round every year and everywhere.

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Date: 29/07/2026 14:06:30
From: ms spock
ID: 2415279
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Cymek said:

Spiny Norman said:

Stop the world, I want to get off. :(

The anti vaccines movement really is so many steps backwards for humanity
I can understand the worry of side effects but none of its based on reality.

well too bad violating people’s bodily sovereignty is communism

The anti vaxxers are a very disturbing group of people.

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Date: 29/07/2026 14:42:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415282
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

The anti vaccines movement really is so many steps backwards for humanity
I can understand the worry of side effects but none of its based on reality.

well too bad violating people’s bodily sovereignty is communism

The anti vaxxers are a very disturbing group of people.

well, you know, the cultural revolution is famous for supposedly killing millions of millions of millions of people, can’t let those other countries outdo glorious capitalist freedom, bring on the bacterial cultural revolution

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Date: 29/07/2026 17:07:16
From: ms spock
ID: 2415307
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:


That is most concerning.

I suggest that if you read the page:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/about/autism.html

you may find that there’s rather less cause for concern than that screenshot alone would indicate.

I hadn’t read that. Ta Captain Spalding

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Date: 29/07/2026 17:24:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415313
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

but we know it’s not true, they won’t try socialised healthcare either

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Date: 29/07/2026 17:33:43
From: Michael V
ID: 2415323
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged

but we know it’s not true, they won’t try socialised healthcare either

Ha!

:)

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Date: 29/07/2026 21:19:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415384
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

captain_spalding said:

ms spock said:

That is most concerning.

I suggest that if you read the page:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/about/autism.html

you may find that there’s rather less cause for concern than that screenshot alone would indicate.

I hadn’t read that. Ta Captain Spalding

well there’s this at least

https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/news/majority/sen-collins-announces-state-department-to-restore-full-contribution-to-gavi

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Date: 30/07/2026 09:57:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415433
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Men Can Be Witches Too

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-30/dr-anthony-fauci-senate-hearing-pleads-fifth-covid-pandemic/106974476

gotta take this shithole country back to 1700 yeah

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Date: 30/07/2026 09:59:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 2415436
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Men Can Be Witches Too

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-30/dr-anthony-fauci-senate-hearing-pleads-fifth-covid-pandemic/106974476

gotta take this shithole country back to 1700 yeah

The war is not yet over. The civil war that is.

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Date: 30/07/2026 10:46:54
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2415448
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Men Can Be Witches Too

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-30/dr-anthony-fauci-senate-hearing-pleads-fifth-covid-pandemic/106974476

gotta take this shithole country back to 1700 yeah

Punter: I’m surrounded by male witches
Policeman: Warlocks
Punter: No it’s true.

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:02:29
From: kii
ID: 2415455
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Men Can Be Witches Too

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-30/dr-anthony-fauci-senate-hearing-pleads-fifth-covid-pandemic/106974476

gotta take this shithole country back to 1700 yeah

Watch the body language of Hawley. The little bouncy bobbing around tough man shit. He’s always been an arsehole.

Link

The behaviour I am referring to is in the opening part of this video.

Remember him on J6?

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:13:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415460
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

in the ussa wokist leftists are agents provocateur manipulating poor simple minded battlers into giving their kids ridiculous names while the hypocritical leftist wokists choose safe successful names for themselves

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:14:30
From: kii
ID: 2415461
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


SCIENCE said:

Men Can Be Witches Too

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-30/dr-anthony-fauci-senate-hearing-pleads-fifth-covid-pandemic/106974476

gotta take this shithole country back to 1700 yeah

Watch the body language of Hawley. The little bouncy bobbing around tough man shit. He’s always been an arsehole.

Link

The behaviour I am referring to is in the opening part of this video.

Remember him on J6?

This…

Link

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:18:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415464
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

kii said:

SCIENCE said:

Men Can Be Witches Too

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-30/dr-anthony-fauci-senate-hearing-pleads-fifth-covid-pandemic/106974476

gotta take this shithole country back to 1700 yeah

Watch the body language of Hawley. The little bouncy bobbing around tough man shit. He’s always been an arsehole.

Link

The behaviour I am referring to is in the opening part of this video.

Remember him on J6?

This…

Link

it’s all gross

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:19:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 2415466
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

kii said:

Watch the body language of Hawley. The little bouncy bobbing around tough man shit. He’s always been an arsehole.

Link

The behaviour I am referring to is in the opening part of this video.

Remember him on J6?

This…

Link

it’s all gross

Men behaving really badly.

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:21:51
From: kii
ID: 2415467
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

kii said:

This…

Link

it’s all gross

Men behaving really badly.

Seriously?

JFC…

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:23:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415469
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

it’s all gross

Men behaving really badly.

Seriously?

JFC…


more good news

The Trump administration announced Monday that it is exempting power plants that only serve data centers and do not connect to the broader grid from pollution limits that seek to prevent acid rain. The administration announced new guidance on Monday clarifying that these “islanded” power plants do not have to be part of the Clean Air Act’s Acid Rain Program (ARP). This program requires power plants to reduce emissions of acid rain precursors sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides.

LOL

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:25:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 2415471
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Men behaving really badly.

Seriously?

JFC…


more good news

The Trump administration announced Monday that it is exempting power plants that only serve data centers and do not connect to the broader grid from pollution limits that seek to prevent acid rain. The administration announced new guidance on Monday clarifying that these “islanded” power plants do not have to be part of the Clean Air Act’s Acid Rain Program (ARP). This program requires power plants to reduce emissions of acid rain precursors sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides.

LOL

and you don’t believe we’re on the eve of destrution.

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:25:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415472
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

kii said:

Seriously?

JFC…


more good news

The Trump administration announced Monday that it is exempting power plants that only serve data centers and do not connect to the broader grid from pollution limits that seek to prevent acid rain. The administration announced new guidance on Monday clarifying that these “islanded” power plants do not have to be part of the Clean Air Act’s Acid Rain Program (ARP). This program requires power plants to reduce emissions of acid rain precursors sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides.

LOL

and you don’t believe we’re on the eve of destrution.

some other country will save us

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:30:32
From: Cymek
ID: 2415477
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The push for AI data centres against what seems to be many people protests is worrying
What’s the long term agenda

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:31:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2415478
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

The push for AI data centres against what seems to be many people protests is worrying
What’s the long term agenda

freedom

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:35:26
From: Cymek
ID: 2415483
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

The push for AI data centres against what seems to be many people protests is worrying
What’s the long term agenda

freedom

That makes sense

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:37:17
From: kii
ID: 2415485
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


The push for AI data centres against what seems to be many people protests is worrying
What’s the long term agenda

Meanwhile in Doña Ana County, where I was living.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1cLU366xBk/

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:38:15
From: Michael V
ID: 2415486
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Men behaving really badly.

Seriously?

JFC…


more good news

The Trump administration announced Monday that it is exempting power plants that only serve data centers and do not connect to the broader grid from pollution limits that seek to prevent acid rain. The administration announced new guidance on Monday clarifying that these “islanded” power plants do not have to be part of the Clean Air Act’s Acid Rain Program (ARP). This program requires power plants to reduce emissions of acid rain precursors sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides.

LOL

More ‘Ken nonsense.

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:39:54
From: Michael V
ID: 2415488
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


The push for AI data centres against what seems to be many people protests is worrying
What’s the long term agenda

For billionaires to become trillionaires.

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Date: 30/07/2026 11:53:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 2415494
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


The push for AI data centres against what seems to be many people protests is worrying
What’s the long term agenda

apparently we can’t do without them and we’ll just have to put up with them. Like everything else.

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Date: 30/07/2026 12:08:30
From: ms spock
ID: 2415502
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

The push for AI data centres against what seems to be many people protests is worrying
What’s the long term agenda

apparently we can’t do without them and we’ll just have to put up with them. Like everything else.

They used NDAs to get the AI Data Centres built in some parts of America.

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Date: 30/07/2026 13:52:06
From: ms spock
ID: 2415544
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Marc Elias won in the Supreme Court.

Link

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Date: 1/08/2026 18:06:49
From: dv
ID: 2416278
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz05yx5dd7yo

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Date: 1/08/2026 18:07:45
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2416279
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz05yx5dd7yo

🌮

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Date: 1/08/2026 18:11:09
From: dv
ID: 2416280
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


dv said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz05yx5dd7yo

🌮

Exactly.
Trump Often Spouts Totally Asinine Daily Announcements.

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Date: 1/08/2026 18:34:18
From: Woodie
ID: 2416287
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz05yx5dd7yo

Now let’s see if he will do the same with the Iran war.

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Date: 1/08/2026 19:11:33
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2416289
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


dv said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz05yx5dd7yo

Now let’s see if he will do the same with the Iran war.

Wouldn’t that be Iranic, don’tcha think?

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Date: 1/08/2026 19:24:58
From: Woodie
ID: 2416293
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Woodie said:

dv said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz05yx5dd7yo

Now let’s see if he will do the same with the Iran war.

Wouldn’t that be Iranic, don’tcha think?

groan

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Date: 2/08/2026 13:32:34
From: dv
ID: 2416447
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

This headline

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Date: 2/08/2026 13:45:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2416458
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


This headline

you see $100000000 a year isn’t much after sending the kids to private school and booking the round the world trip and securing another private island and setting aside the retirement savings

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Date: 2/08/2026 15:43:57
From: dv
ID: 2416498
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 2/08/2026 15:52:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2416501
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



SCIENCE is a Conservative?

I never would have guessed.

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Date: 2/08/2026 15:57:34
From: dv
ID: 2416504
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Capital One Financial hit back on Friday against a lawsuit over its ⁠decision to close the Trump ⁠Organization’s bank accounts ​years ago, stating that it did so after a review by anti-money-laundering experts.

The disclosure marks the first time a bank has formally tied money-laundering concerns to Donald Trump’s family business. Capital One is seeking to dismiss the case by casting doubt on claims of illegally debanking – or denying services on religious or political grounds – the Trump Organization.

—

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/01/capital-one-trump-organization-money-laundering

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Date: 2/08/2026 16:26:32
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2416512
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

President Donald Trump has predicted that Greenland will be under U.S. control by the time he leaves office in January 2029.

Trump has fiercely pushed to acquire the semi-autonomous Danish territory in the Arctic since before he returned to the Oval Office. The globally unpopular move has helped strain America’s relationship with its European allies, who see it as a threat to Greenlanders’ sovereignty.

https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-says-greenland-under-us-013450000.html

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Date: 2/08/2026 17:59:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2416543
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:


SCIENCE is a Conservative?

I never would have guessed.

what, we’re systematically talking about diseases so don’t look at us, the only type of conservative we are is path independence

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Date: 2/08/2026 19:28:39
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2416575
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

right thread. hopefully.

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Date: 2/08/2026 20:15:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2416590
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:

right thread. hopefully.

are those rainbows

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Date: 3/08/2026 11:56:10
From: ms spock
ID: 2416684
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Roland Martin used to be on CNN, MSNBC etc etc

He started his own media company.

Link

3 minutes

I find some of his interviews and panels most thought provoking. He did an interesting interview with Kamala Harris.

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Date: 3/08/2026 21:03:01
From: ms spock
ID: 2416796
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Roland Martin pressed James Talarico on what he would say to Black Texans after beating Jasmine Crockett and why Black voters should trust him.

Link

James Talarico has got guts. He keeps turning up and answering the questions. He did a town hall and there was an angry woman there and he heard her out.

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Date: 3/08/2026 21:43:25
From: ms spock
ID: 2416819
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ICE Detention of “non criminals”.

Link

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Date: 3/08/2026 21:48:39
From: ms spock
ID: 2416821
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

MONSTERS: ICE grabbed a 17yo Target worker then dumped him at a Walmart 8 minutes away when they confirmed he’s a citizen.

Bystanders found him sobbing and bleeding, saying “They slammed me on the ground.” There’s no reforming this. Share widely.

Link

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Date: 3/08/2026 22:04:23
From: kii
ID: 2416825
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 3/08/2026 22:14:59
From: Kingy
ID: 2416826
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:



Yep, did lol.

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Date: 4/08/2026 06:57:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2416851
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

so the great man was correct again

The investigation tested supermarket food products, travelled to cocoa-growing communities in Ghana, and interviewed workers and industry insiders across Australia. It found problems from food fraud and misleading claims to worker exploitation and child labour, as well as tomato products originating from China’s Xinjiang region, which has been linked to allegations of forced labour. It comes weeks after the Trump administration imposed a 12.5 per cent tariff on certain Australian exports, arguing Australia does not effectively stop imports made with forced labour.

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Date: 4/08/2026 11:19:42
From: Neophyte
ID: 2416871
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

BREAKING: Trump is now covering historic statues in Washington, DC in gold.

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Date: 4/08/2026 11:29:49
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2416872
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


BREAKING: Trump is now covering historic statues in Washington, DC in gold.


they were originally gilded I believe.

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Date: 4/08/2026 11:45:09
From: kii
ID: 2416875
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I know it’s painful to watch this insane fuckwit, but…

Link

Aaron Rupar: Trump says of blue cities that “their trees are all gross,” then goes on even more insane rant about the reflecting pool, including claiming he has a “moving picture” showing “people on the side cutting it with a box knife.” He went on to say Jeanine Pirro “choked” before snapping at a reporter who asked him if her job is safe, telling him “don’t ever talk again.”

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Date: 4/08/2026 11:47:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2416877
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


BREAKING: Trump is now covering historic statues in Washington, DC in gold.


Is there nothing he can’t do.

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Date: 4/08/2026 12:03:08
From: Neophyte
ID: 2416878
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Neophyte said:

BREAKING: Trump is now covering historic statues in Washington, DC in gold.


Is there nothing he can’t do.

King Cnut might like a word with him…

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Date: 4/08/2026 12:45:15
From: kii
ID: 2416883
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Neophyte said:

BREAKING: Trump is now covering historic statues in Washington, DC in gold.


Is there nothing he can’t do.

He can’t stfu.

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Date: 4/08/2026 12:52:08
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2416884
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


BREAKING: Trump is now covering historic statues in Washington, DC in gold.


Blinded by the light statue
Wrapped up like a douche
etc

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Date: 4/08/2026 12:53:10
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2416885
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Neophyte said:

BREAKING: Trump is now covering historic statues in Washington, DC in gold.


Is there nothing he can’t do.

He can’t stfu.

Well there is that.

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Date: 4/08/2026 15:50:33
From: ms spock
ID: 2416917
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Aunt Tifa was acquitted of all charges. 😂

Link

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Date: 4/08/2026 16:30:33
From: Michael V
ID: 2416937
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

Aunt Tifa was acquitted of all charges. 😂

Link

Good.

:)

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Date: 4/08/2026 18:37:28
From: Neophyte
ID: 2416971
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 4/08/2026 18:40:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2416972
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:



:)

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Date: 4/08/2026 18:43:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2416974
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

Neophyte said:


:)

wait is this satire

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Date: 5/08/2026 10:11:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2417067
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Neophyte said:


:)

wait is this satire

alleged

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Date: 5/08/2026 10:51:16
From: dv
ID: 2417076
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 5/08/2026 10:51:30
From: dv
ID: 2417077
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

:)

wait is this satire

alleged


Fuck sorry

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Date: 5/08/2026 13:31:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2417149
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

:)

wait is this satire

alleged



alleged


Fuck sorry

nah ‘scool it just proves that even we(1,1,1) isolationists in here are not immune to the pervasive interference of the Algorithms, so we(1,0,0) at least shall endeavour to be even more careful

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Date: 5/08/2026 13:50:21
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2417157
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Former senior US national security official Miles Taylor shares a personal account that raises a broader civic concern: the growing cost of dissent in American public life.

Drawing on his experience inside government and living the consequences of speaking openly, he says that the real threat to US democracy isn’t the politicians or hard-liners — it’s the two-thirds of Americans who don’t speak up. (This talk contains mature language.) (Recorded at TEDxMidAtlantic on November 1, 2025)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBnocNg69o4

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Date: 5/08/2026 14:29:57
From: ms spock
ID: 2417163
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:



Classic!

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Date: 5/08/2026 14:54:14
From: dv
ID: 2417170
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

More like Alborithms am I right?

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Date: 5/08/2026 15:13:55
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2417174
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 5/08/2026 20:27:08
From: dv
ID: 2417289
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Meanwhile

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/articles/fox-news-host-griff-jenkins-063808468.html

Fox News reporter Griff Jenkins got a schooling on basic bird knowledge after claiming pigeons “don’t lay eggs” during a live segment covering JD Vance’s chicken coop.

—

Where do they find these people?

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Date: 5/08/2026 23:26:40
From: ms spock
ID: 2417321
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

It is not looking good for people with disabilities in America.

Link

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Date: 6/08/2026 06:51:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2417349
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

It is not looking good for people with disabilities in America.

Link

at least they have human rights

wait

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Date: 6/08/2026 07:20:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2417358
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

It is not looking good for people with disabilities in America.

Link

at least they have human rights

wait

imagine speculative debt that actually has

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-06/credit-default-swaps-at-record-high-risk-big-tech-superannuation/106999378

real consequences damn oh shit wait

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Date: 6/08/2026 14:32:44
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2417528
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The New Era That Wasn’t

Fundamental realignments in the way Americans vote are rare, but predictions that they have occurred are not. Nearly as soon as Donald Trump was declared the winner of the presidential race in November 2024, people started saying the election represented a new era. “Trump just realigned the entire political map. Democrats have ‘no easy path’ to fix it,” announced NBC News.

The election had been very close. Trump won slightly more electoral votes than Joe Biden had in 2020 (312 to 306), but he also won fewer total popular votes and a smaller percentage of the vote. This was still significant because it was the first time in three tries that Trump had captured a plurality of the electorate, but the case for realignment hinged less on raw numbers than on demographic breakdowns. The Republican Party had strengthened its grip on the white working class and had done historically well with young voters—young men in particular—and Hispanic voters.

Writing in The Atlantic in May 2025, the pollster Patrick Ruffini argued that a new era of politics had dawned, in which Trump had broken Democrats’ solid grip on minority voters. “The realignment of the working class, which helped Trump win in 2016, would not stop with white voters. In 2020 and 2024, the realignment came for nonwhite voters,” he wrote. “In an era of nationalized politics and growing polarization, the social basis for Democratic majorities is looking more and more tenuous.”

The Democratic Party’s problems remain very real, but for the moment, Trump and the GOP have more serious ones. The most glaring one is Trump’s deep personal unpopularity. In the current polarized and dyspeptic political environment, all presidents seem to be unpopular, but Trump is in a different league. A CNN poll released last week measured Trump at 34 percent support, matching the low he reached in that poll following the January 6 insurrection. Still, that was better than his showing in the AP-NORC survey, which found his approval at 33 percent, just one point above a 2017 low. Quinnipiac University found Trump at 32 percent, the lowest ever in that poll.

These broad strokes are ugly enough, but digging into polling results shows particular deterioration with the particular groups that were supposed to be at the center of the Trump 2024 realignment.

Consider young voters. Kamala Harris won a slim majority of them in 2024, a huge drop from the 25 percent margin that Biden enjoyed four years earlier. The Yale Youth Poll found in May that 68 percent of voters ages 18 to 22 and 72 percent of voters ages 23 to 29 disapproved of Trump. Echelon Insights also found that younger voters disapprove of Trump more than the general population—the number has fallen 37 percent since the start of this administration. Polling from the Harvard Institute of Politics found that young voters are especially skeptical of expanded presidential power and claims of “national emergency”—two staples of Trump’s approach to governance.

One reason Trump’s numbers have sunk so much among young people is his poor performance among young men. A popular explanation was that a feminized, woke Democratic Party had driven them away and into the arms of Trump and a growing manosphere of influencers. To the extent that that was true, it was ephemeral. These voters are still wary of the Democrats, but they’ve soured on Trump as well. The Yale Youth Poll found that men under 30 were one of the two groups that had turned the most against Trump since last fall.

Trump is also bleeding support among Black and Hispanic voters, and especially men, as Bloomberg Government reports. In 2024, Trump won almost half of Hispanic voters, but polls show Republicans drawing 27 to 35 percent support in the midterms, which would be their worst performance with the group since the Democratic-wave year of 2018. Equis, a pollster focused on the demographic, finds Latino approval of Trump is lower than that of non-Latino voters. A May poll found that a quarter of Hispanics who voted for Trump in 2024 wouldn’t do so again.

The decay has even reached Trump’s core supporters. A New York Times review of polling data found in June that white working-class voters’ views of the president’s handling of the economy were tanking. During the first two years of his first term, these voters rated him higher than the overall population; now they rate him much worse. In February 2016, Trump boasted about his backing among the least-educated voters, saying, “I love the poorly educated.” They don’t love him back: Echelon finds his approval down to 41 percent among those with a high-school education or less. Polling from the Institute for the Study of Modern Authoritarianism finds a shrinking Trump base and less personal connection to Trump, which is a particular problem for a personalist leader and movement. Republican strategists are now worried that even consistent GOP voters might not turn out in November, according to The Washington Post.

As the poll analyst G. Elliott Morris has written, several convincing explanations existed for Trump’s 2024 victory that didn’t involve realignment, including the lingering effects of the pandemic, global anti-incumbent sentiment, and the peculiar dynamics of Biden’s ill-advised decision to run and his late exit from the race. But the foremost was inflation. Americans were angry at the Democratic Party because of persistently higher prices. Now Trump is losing support for the same reason. Not only has Trump not ended inflation, as he promised—in June, it ran at 3.5 percent—but his decisions, especially the Iran war, have driven prices higher. Voters were willing to give Trump a chance because of their disgust with Biden. Now they’re seeing the results, and they don’t like them.

This was perhaps foreseeable. Although some observers believed a sea change had occurred, the Brookings Institution scholar (and Atlantic contributor) Jonathan Rauch concluded on November 9, 2024, that the result did not represent “a pro-MAGA realignment or a sweeping repudiation of Democrats. Rather, this was an ordinary election.” He added, prophetically, “While the Republicans undoubtedly scored a clear victory, they may be tempted to claim a stronger mandate than the voters intended to deliver—and they may respond with policies that are more extreme and disruptive than the public wants or expects.” Now the realignment looks nearly as moribund as GOP chances in the midterms.

‘The Atlantic’ Email Newsletter

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Date: 7/08/2026 01:23:31
From: dv
ID: 2417660
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 7/08/2026 11:12:01
From: kii
ID: 2417709
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Heritage Foundation, Project 2025, Women in sports.
Jess Piper

Link.

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Date: 7/08/2026 15:11:01
From: dv
ID: 2417821
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 7/08/2026 15:11:21
From: dv
ID: 2417823
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 7/08/2026 15:13:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2417824
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



End of the road for Ford Carr.

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Date: 7/08/2026 15:14:44
From: party_pants
ID: 2417825
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bubblecar said:


dv said:


End of the road for Ford Carr.

will he have a breakdown?

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Date: 7/08/2026 15:18:03
From: dv
ID: 2417826
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I think you’re mixing your metaphors my friend but nice Odyssey tie-in.

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Date: 7/08/2026 15:18:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2417827
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



what a good child

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Date: 7/08/2026 15:19:52
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2417829
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



They sound like characters from a 1950s Great American Novel.

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Date: 7/08/2026 15:20:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2417830
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:


End of the road for Ford Carr.

will he have a breakdown?

we tire of these predictable word plays

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Date: 8/08/2026 01:56:36
From: dv
ID: 2418008
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/july-2026-jobs-report-rcna591138

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Date: 8/08/2026 13:39:58
From: buffy
ID: 2418091
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Another contribution from my Houston sister.

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Date: 8/08/2026 14:05:49
From: Michael V
ID: 2418097
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Another contribution from my Houston sister.


Fair comment.

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Date: 8/08/2026 14:34:56
From: buffy
ID: 2418098
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ooh, I missed this while I was outside weeding this morning:

>>A federal appeals court has ordered Donald Trump’s administration to stop construction on a $400 million ballroom on the site of the White House’s demolished East Wing, dealing the Republican leader a major setback in a case testing his presidential authority.

“Each President is a temporary tenant, not the owner, of the White House,” and could not fundamentally reshape it without congressional approval, the Washington-based US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said in a 2-1 opinion on Friday, local time.<<

ABC link

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Date: 8/08/2026 14:42:47
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2418099
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Ooh, I missed this while I was outside weeding this morning:

>>A federal appeals court has ordered Donald Trump’s administration to stop construction on a $400 million ballroom on the site of the White House’s demolished East Wing, dealing the Republican leader a major setback in a case testing his presidential authority.

“Each President is a temporary tenant, not the owner, of the White House,” and could not fundamentally reshape it without congressional approval, the Washington-based US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said in a 2-1 opinion on Friday, local time.<<

ABC link

The damage has literally been done. There’s rubble and debris everywhere.

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Date: 8/08/2026 14:46:16
From: party_pants
ID: 2418101
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Ooh, I missed this while I was outside weeding this morning:

>>A federal appeals court has ordered Donald Trump’s administration to stop construction on a $400 million ballroom on the site of the White House’s demolished East Wing, dealing the Republican leader a major setback in a case testing his presidential authority.

“Each President is a temporary tenant, not the owner, of the White House,” and could not fundamentally reshape it without congressional approval, the Washington-based US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said in a 2-1 opinion on Friday, local time.<<

ABC link

Bit late now, the old part of the building has already been demolished and can’t exactly be put back exactly like it was. They’ve got to build something to replace it, can’t have a vacant building site just sitting there idle for a few years before they agree on what to do. Might as well build the damn thing. Just make sure it is never completed before Trump leaves office so he never gets to use it.

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Date: 8/08/2026 14:50:10
From: buffy
ID: 2418102
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


buffy said:

Ooh, I missed this while I was outside weeding this morning:

>>A federal appeals court has ordered Donald Trump’s administration to stop construction on a $400 million ballroom on the site of the White House’s demolished East Wing, dealing the Republican leader a major setback in a case testing his presidential authority.

“Each President is a temporary tenant, not the owner, of the White House,” and could not fundamentally reshape it without congressional approval, the Washington-based US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said in a 2-1 opinion on Friday, local time.<<

ABC link

Bit late now, the old part of the building has already been demolished and can’t exactly be put back exactly like it was. They’ve got to build something to replace it, can’t have a vacant building site just sitting there idle for a few years before they agree on what to do. Might as well build the damn thing. Just make sure it is never completed before Trump leaves office so he never gets to use it.

I think I read that it wasn’t really particularly old. Anyway, they are apparently quite able to run a government (sort of) without it, so the area could be turned over to garden. Then you have somewhere to put up the big marquees…

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Date: 8/08/2026 14:51:20
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2418103
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


buffy said:

Ooh, I missed this while I was outside weeding this morning:

>>A federal appeals court has ordered Donald Trump’s administration to stop construction on a $400 million ballroom on the site of the White House’s demolished East Wing, dealing the Republican leader a major setback in a case testing his presidential authority.

“Each President is a temporary tenant, not the owner, of the White House,” and could not fundamentally reshape it without congressional approval, the Washington-based US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said in a 2-1 opinion on Friday, local time.<<

ABC link

The damage has literally been done. There’s rubble and debris everywhere.

Are you talking about the White House specifically or the US in general?

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Date: 8/08/2026 14:54:28
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2418104
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

Ooh, I missed this while I was outside weeding this morning:

>>A federal appeals court has ordered Donald Trump’s administration to stop construction on a $400 million ballroom on the site of the White House’s demolished East Wing, dealing the Republican leader a major setback in a case testing his presidential authority.

“Each President is a temporary tenant, not the owner, of the White House,” and could not fundamentally reshape it without congressional approval, the Washington-based US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said in a 2-1 opinion on Friday, local time.<<

ABC link

The damage has literally been done. There’s rubble and debris everywhere.

Are you talking about the White House specifically or the US in general?

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Date: 8/08/2026 14:59:46
From: Michael V
ID: 2418105
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Ooh, I missed this while I was outside weeding this morning:

>>A federal appeals court has ordered Donald Trump’s administration to stop construction on a $400 million ballroom on the site of the White House’s demolished East Wing, dealing the Republican leader a major setback in a case testing his presidential authority.

“Each President is a temporary tenant, not the owner, of the White House,” and could not fundamentally reshape it without congressional approval, the Washington-based US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said in a 2-1 opinion on Friday, local time.<<

ABC link

He’ll just bang it up to the Supreme Court.

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Date: 8/08/2026 15:02:23
From: party_pants
ID: 2418106
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Ooh, I missed this while I was outside weeding this morning:

>>A federal appeals court has ordered Donald Trump’s administration to stop construction on a $400 million ballroom on the site of the White House’s demolished East Wing, dealing the Republican leader a major setback in a case testing his presidential authority.

“Each President is a temporary tenant, not the owner, of the White House,” and could not fundamentally reshape it without congressional approval, the Washington-based US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said in a 2-1 opinion on Friday, local time.<<

ABC link

He’ll just bang it up to the Supreme Court.

It’s kind of typical USA, it all ends up in courts well after the event.

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Date: 8/08/2026 15:17:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2418109
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:

party_pants said:

buffy said:

Ooh, I missed this while I was outside weeding this morning:

>>A federal appeals court has ordered Donald Trump’s administration to stop construction on a $400 million ballroom on the site of the White House’s demolished East Wing, dealing the Republican leader a major setback in a case testing his presidential authority.

“Each President is a temporary tenant, not the owner, of the White House,” and could not fundamentally reshape it without congressional approval, the Washington-based US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said in a 2-1 opinion on Friday, local time.<<

ABC link

Bit late now, the old part of the building has already been demolished and can’t exactly be put back exactly like it was. They’ve got to build something to replace it, can’t have a vacant building site just sitting there idle for a few years before they agree on what to do. Might as well build the damn thing. Just make sure it is never completed before Trump leaves office so he never gets to use it.

I think I read that it wasn’t really particularly old. Anyway, they are apparently quite able to run a government (sort of) without it, so the area could be turned over to garden. Then you have somewhere to put up the big marquees…

a memorial waterfall pit

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Date: 8/08/2026 15:19:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2418110
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Another contribution from my Houston sister.


Fair comment.

well at least they have freedoms liberties profits law order and basic human rights

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Date: 8/08/2026 15:49:13
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2418123
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

Ooh, I missed this while I was outside weeding this morning:

>>A federal appeals court has ordered Donald Trump’s administration to stop construction on a $400 million ballroom on the site of the White House’s demolished East Wing, dealing the Republican leader a major setback in a case testing his presidential authority.

“Each President is a temporary tenant, not the owner, of the White House,” and could not fundamentally reshape it without congressional approval, the Washington-based US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said in a 2-1 opinion on Friday, local time.<<

ABC link

He’ll just bang it up to the Supreme Court.

It’s kind of typical USA, it all ends up in courts well after the event.

Unlike other places where things end up in court before the event?

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Date: 8/08/2026 15:53:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 2418125
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

He’ll just bang it up to the Supreme Court.

It’s kind of typical USA, it all ends up in courts well after the event.

Unlike other places where things end up in court before the event?

Think p_p would have emphasised the “well after”.

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Date: 8/08/2026 15:55:26
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2418126
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Another contribution from my Houston sister.


The “argument” against Fauci pleading the Fifth is that he was given a pardon by Biden, and by extension, that if he already has a pardon regarding the detail of his testimony, then how can he incriminate himself (there are, of course, potential state-led prosecutions that he has to be wary of as well, as they are not covered by the pardon)

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Date: 8/08/2026 15:59:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 2418127
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


buffy said:

Another contribution from my Houston sister.


The “argument” against Fauci pleading the Fifth is that he was given a pardon by Biden, and by extension, that if he already has a pardon regarding the detail of his testimony, then how can he incriminate himself (there are, of course, potential state-led prosecutions that he has to be wary of as well, as they are not covered by the pardon)

All of which is being ignored by the republicans.

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Date: 8/08/2026 15:59:23
From: party_pants
ID: 2418128
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

He’ll just bang it up to the Supreme Court.

It’s kind of typical USA, it all ends up in courts well after the event.

Unlike other places where things end up in court before the event?

In a properly run country, a proposal like this would be put to the parliament for approval, along with reasons why a ballroom is needed etc, before the demolition crews start work.

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:00:14
From: party_pants
ID: 2418129
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


buffy said:

Another contribution from my Houston sister.


The “argument” against Fauci pleading the Fifth is that he was given a pardon by Biden, and by extension, that if he already has a pardon regarding the detail of his testimony, then how can he incriminate himself (there are, of course, potential state-led prosecutions that he has to be wary of as well, as they are not covered by the pardon)

what’s the accusations against him?

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:05:26
From: furious
ID: 2418130
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

buffy said:

Another contribution from my Houston sister.


The “argument” against Fauci pleading the Fifth is that he was given a pardon by Biden, and by extension, that if he already has a pardon regarding the detail of his testimony, then how can he incriminate himself (there are, of course, potential state-led prosecutions that he has to be wary of as well, as they are not covered by the pardon)

what’s the accusations against him?

He’s worse than Hitler…

No specific allegations, it was a fishing expedition to get him to say something they could hang him with…

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:10:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 2418131
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

furious said:


party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

The “argument” against Fauci pleading the Fifth is that he was given a pardon by Biden, and by extension, that if he already has a pardon regarding the detail of his testimony, then how can he incriminate himself (there are, of course, potential state-led prosecutions that he has to be wary of as well, as they are not covered by the pardon)

what’s the accusations against him?

He’s worse than Hitler…

No specific allegations, it was a fishing expedition to get him to say something they could hang him with…

Thankfully, Biden saw all this coming.

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:11:23
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2418132
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

It’s kind of typical USA, it all ends up in courts well after the event.

Unlike other places where things end up in court before the event?

In a properly run country, a proposal like this would be put to the parliament for approval, along with reasons why a ballroom is needed etc, before the demolition crews start work.

I’m not sure that’s true, but in any case, the Executive Branch in the US has pretty broad powers.

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:14:00
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2418135
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

buffy said:

Another contribution from my Houston sister.


The “argument” against Fauci pleading the Fifth is that he was given a pardon by Biden, and by extension, that if he already has a pardon regarding the detail of his testimony, then how can he incriminate himself (there are, of course, potential state-led prosecutions that he has to be wary of as well, as they are not covered by the pardon)

what’s the accusations against him?

There are many and varied. The fundamental premise of the claims are two-fold: (1) he knew about the origins of COVID and lied about it, and (2) he is complicit in the deprivation of people’s constitutional freedoms during COVID lockdowns.

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:14:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 2418136
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

Unlike other places where things end up in court before the event?

In a properly run country, a proposal like this would be put to the parliament for approval, along with reasons why a ballroom is needed etc, before the demolition crews start work.

I’m not sure that’s true, but in any case, the Executive Branch in the US has pretty broad powers.

and Trump is trying to test them.

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:14:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2418137
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

so in summary it’s better to ask for forgiveness than for permission

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:15:18
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2418138
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

so in summary it’s better to ask for forgiveness than for permission

I plead the Fifth

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:16:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2418141
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

The “argument” against Fauci pleading the Fifth is that he was given a pardon by Biden, and by extension, that if he already has a pardon regarding the detail of his testimony, then how can he incriminate himself (there are, of course, potential state-led prosecutions that he has to be wary of as well, as they are not covered by the pardon)

what’s the accusations against him?

There are many and varied. The fundamental premise of the claims are two-fold: (1) he knew about the origins of COVID and lied about it, and (2) he is complicit in the deprivation of people’s constitutional freedoms during COVID lockdowns.

The bastard.

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:18:33
From: party_pants
ID: 2418143
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

Unlike other places where things end up in court before the event?

In a properly run country, a proposal like this would be put to the parliament for approval, along with reasons why a ballroom is needed etc, before the demolition crews start work.

I’m not sure that’s true, but in any case, the Executive Branch in the US has pretty broad powers.

Well (in the article that kicked off this discussion), the court has just said the executive does not have the power to demolish and rebuild parts of the White House, and that power rests with Congress. In a properly run country somebody would have known this and advised a course of action like asking the Congress for approval. It would not be a case of just do it anyway and lets the courts sort out the mess later.

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:20:59
From: party_pants
ID: 2418144
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

The “argument” against Fauci pleading the Fifth is that he was given a pardon by Biden, and by extension, that if he already has a pardon regarding the detail of his testimony, then how can he incriminate himself (there are, of course, potential state-led prosecutions that he has to be wary of as well, as they are not covered by the pardon)

what’s the accusations against him?

There are many and varied. The fundamental premise of the claims are two-fold: (1) he knew about the origins of COVID and lied about it, and (2) he is complicit in the deprivation of people’s constitutional freedoms during COVID lockdowns.

So a bunch of conspiracy theories and political payback.

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:23:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2418145
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

In a properly run country, a proposal like this would be put to the parliament for approval, along with reasons why a ballroom is needed etc, before the demolition crews start work.

I’m not sure that’s true, but in any case, the Executive Branch in the US has pretty broad powers.

Well (in the article that kicked off this discussion), the court has just said the executive does not have the power to demolish and rebuild parts of the White House, and that power rests with Congress. In a properly run country somebody would have known this and advised a course of action like asking the Congress for approval. It would not be a case of just do it anyway and lets the courts sort out the mess later.

Trump by nature is a bully. Imagine trying to parent such a child?

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:24:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 2418148
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

what’s the accusations against him?

There are many and varied. The fundamental premise of the claims are two-fold: (1) he knew about the origins of COVID and lied about it, and (2) he is complicit in the deprivation of people’s constitutional freedoms during COVID lockdowns.

So a bunch of conspiracy theories and political payback.

A subtle attempt to hide the political payback? ;)

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Date: 8/08/2026 16:36:41
From: ms spock
ID: 2418157
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m not sure that’s true, but in any case, the Executive Branch in the US has pretty broad powers.

Well (in the article that kicked off this discussion), the court has just said the executive does not have the power to demolish and rebuild parts of the White House, and that power rests with Congress. In a properly run country somebody would have known this and advised a course of action like asking the Congress for approval. It would not be a case of just do it anyway and lets the courts sort out the mess later.

Trump by nature is a bully. Imagine trying to parent such a child?

Mary Trump has said in her books that Trump’s father very abusive. Prof David Cay Johnson has said the severity of the abuse shaped Trump.

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Date: 9/08/2026 19:22:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2418580
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

fucking damn what a groundbreaking insight

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Date: 9/08/2026 21:33:48
From: ms spock
ID: 2418628
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Flock camera surveillance in the US

Link

3 minutes

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Date: 10/08/2026 10:12:48
From: kii
ID: 2418732
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Lucas Bean.
Why You Can’t Get Through to a Trump Supporter
Link

This is an excellent explanation, imho.

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Date: 10/08/2026 10:45:23
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2418752
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

U.S. customs officers want your password? It’s an insidious trap.
Your privacy rights don’t disappear at the border.

August 7, 2026

By Mike Fox
Mike Fox is a legal fellow at the Cato Institute’s Project on Criminal Justice.

Those who travel internationally know the routine. Whether at an airport terminal or a land border crossing, returning home means having your bags scanned to ensure you aren’t bringing contraband, illicit drugs or invasive species onto U.S. soil. But what happens when the government demands access to your phone?

A smartphone is fundamentally different from a suitcase. It’s not merely a container for physical goods; it’s a digital repository of our lives. It holds our private thoughts, political expressions, digital calendars, personal photos, contact lists, shopping habits, credit card numbers and travel logs. Yet U.S. customs officers routinely assert the authority to demand passcodes and search these digital life-capsules without a warrant — and often without a shred of reasonable suspicion to believe a crime has been committed.

The rationale? Simply that you are presenting yourself at a port of entry.

The legal and ethical perils of this aggressive practice are on full display in the federal prosecution of Samuel Tunick, whose January 2025 encounter highlights the extreme lengths to which federal agents will go to access people’s devices. Returning from a vacation in the Dominican Republic through the Atlanta airport, Tunick was pulled aside by Customs and Border Protection officers cooperating with the FBI. The agents employed high-pressure tactics — including falsely alleging the possible presence of child pornography on his device — to coerce the disclosure of his password.

Tunick didn’t fall for the ploy. Instead, he invoked his rights, refused to answer questions and presented his lawyer’s business card. Finally, he provided a code that wiped the device’s contents when the agents tried to use it to open the phone, leading to his eventual indictment on a count of destroying property to prevent seizure.

Tunick was already known to authorities for his involvement in the left-wing “Stop Cop City” movement, which had fought to prevent the construction of the Atlanta Public Safety Training Center. Tunick and his lawyer believe that he was targeted for this political action — that with no probable cause to believe he had committed a crime (making a judicial warrant out of the question) and no reasonable suspicion to justify a warrantless search, agents used the border search exception to bypass the Fourth Amendment entirely. If true, this is a prosecution brought in bad faith. The Constitution strictly forbids charging a person not for what he did but for who he is.

Border searches are an insidious trap. Handing over a password under duress can yield self-incriminating evidence. Resisting, however, exposes the traveler to escalation: physical detention, device confiscation or criminal charges. For noncitizens, the threat is blunt: Provide your passcode or be denied entry. For U.S. citizens — who cannot be turned away — the options available to customs agents are more limited but still menacing.

Clarity is needed from the courts. The U.S. Supreme Court unanimously recognized in its landmark 2014 decision in Riley v. California that mobile phones are modern, highly sensitive portals requiring robust Fourth Amendment protections. Yet the court has not explicitly defined how the border search exception applies to digital technology. Though some lower courts have acknowledged that phones are distinct from standard luggage, they remain deeply divided on border searches.

Thankfully, the jury trial offers one more constitutional safeguard against this kind of prosecution. The framers deliberately placed 12 citizens between a criminal defendant and the state because officials cannot always be trusted to police themselves. A jury asked to convict Tunick should consider not just the weight of the government’s evidence but the manner in which the prosecution came about. I suspect that prosecutors will have trouble meeting the standards of basic fairness and common sense that any group of Americans would bring to this case.

As the Trump administration’s war on immigrants moves into the nation’s airports, the prosecution of Samuel Tunick must serve as a wake-up call. Allowing federal agents to turn international travel into an automatic forfeiture of constitutional rights sets a dangerous precedent. The “border” must not be a legal black hole where privacy dies, and it is high time the judiciary — or how about you, Congress? — draws a firm line: Get a warrant or leave our phones alone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/08/07/phone-searches-airports-set-dangerous-privacy-precedent/

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Date: 10/08/2026 11:13:10
From: ms spock
ID: 2418764
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Lucas Bean.
Why You Can’t Get Through to a Trump Supporter
Link

This is an excellent explanation, imho.

Go hiontach! It’s brilliant!

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Date: 10/08/2026 11:31:42
From: Cymek
ID: 2418782
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


kii said:

Lucas Bean.
Why You Can’t Get Through to a Trump Supporter
Link

This is an excellent explanation, imho.

Go hiontach! It’s brilliant!

It is the echo, hello

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Date: 10/08/2026 11:46:32
From: kii
ID: 2418791
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


kii said:

Lucas Bean.
Why You Can’t Get Through to a Trump Supporter
Link

This is an excellent explanation, imho.

Go hiontach! It’s brilliant!

I was hoping that you’d see this, spocky.
As with all Mr Bean’s pieces – I don’t just take him at his word, but he makes points that are “food for thought”.

Having known a few Trump supporters in NM it helps me understand how they got so deceived by the obvious bullshit.

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Date: 10/08/2026 12:17:26
From: ms spock
ID: 2418808
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

kii said:

Lucas Bean.
Why You Can’t Get Through to a Trump Supporter
Link

This is an excellent explanation, imho.

Go hiontach! It’s brilliant!

It is the echo, hello

Hello Cymek

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Date: 11/08/2026 16:39:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2419188
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

good, good

US President Donald Trump has issued an executive order calling for American children to be immunised against fewer diseases. The vaccination schedule put forward by his administration recommends immunising children against 11 diseases, six fewer than what is currently recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

oh look more free pass

The nation is contending with a measles outbreak so severe, experts say it could result in the US losing its measles elimination status.

“could result” LOL

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Date: 12/08/2026 06:59:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2419344
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

no way, the greatest and most decent leaders the universe has ever seen would

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-12/trumps-secret-plane-switch-sparks-debate-over-missile-decoy/107026462

never throw someone else to the sharks to save themselves

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Date: 12/08/2026 09:50:53
From: ms spock
ID: 2419376
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

no way, the greatest and most decent leaders the universe has ever seen would

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-12/trumps-secret-plane-switch-sparks-debate-over-missile-decoy/107026462

never throw someone else to the sharks to save themselves

You have to wonder how the staff and press feel about this.

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Date: 12/08/2026 09:53:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 2419380
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


SCIENCE said:

no way, the greatest and most decent leaders the universe has ever seen would

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-12/trumps-secret-plane-switch-sparks-debate-over-missile-decoy/107026462

never throw someone else to the sharks to save themselves

You have to wonder how the staff and press feel about this.

Rubio was on the decoy plane as well.

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Date: 12/08/2026 10:31:47
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2419397
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

INSANE video shows out of control ICE agent launch psychotic attack against innocent US-born woman, pointing a gun at her face with a bogus claim that she tried to run him over. Follow up video is proof of her innocence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarchAgainstNazis/comments/1vlwmgo/insane_video_shows_out_of_control_ice_agent/

Just a wee bit of a bullshit over-reaction from the Nazi’s here.

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Date: 12/08/2026 10:35:48
From: Cymek
ID: 2419401
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


INSANE video shows out of control ICE agent launch psychotic attack against innocent US-born woman, pointing a gun at her face with a bogus claim that she tried to run him over. Follow up video is proof of her innocence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarchAgainstNazis/comments/1vlwmgo/insane_video_shows_out_of_control_ice_agent/

Just a wee bit of a bullshit over-reaction from the Nazi’s here.

They really are like the Brown Shirts aren’t they
Not hard to find thousands of humans willing to unleash their nasty tendencies.

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Date: 12/08/2026 10:37:13
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2419403
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Spiny Norman said:

INSANE video shows out of control ICE agent launch psychotic attack against innocent US-born woman, pointing a gun at her face with a bogus claim that she tried to run him over. Follow up video is proof of her innocence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarchAgainstNazis/comments/1vlwmgo/insane_video_shows_out_of_control_ice_agent/

Just a wee bit of a bullshit over-reaction from the Nazi’s here.

They really are like the Brown Shirts aren’t they
Not hard to find thousands of humans willing to unleash their nasty tendencies.

I only hope that there’s real consequences for them.

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Date: 12/08/2026 10:42:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 2419405
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Cymek said:

Spiny Norman said:

INSANE video shows out of control ICE agent launch psychotic attack against innocent US-born woman, pointing a gun at her face with a bogus claim that she tried to run him over. Follow up video is proof of her innocence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarchAgainstNazis/comments/1vlwmgo/insane_video_shows_out_of_control_ice_agent/

Just a wee bit of a bullshit over-reaction from the Nazi’s here.

They really are like the Brown Shirts aren’t they
Not hard to find thousands of humans willing to unleash their nasty tendencies.

I only hope that there’s real consequences for them.

I lked the idea of shoving them all in one of Musk’s rockets and fire them off into space.

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Date: 12/08/2026 10:52:22
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2419408
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


Spiny Norman said:

Cymek said:

They really are like the Brown Shirts aren’t they
Not hard to find thousands of humans willing to unleash their nasty tendencies.

I only hope that there’s real consequences for them.

I lked the idea of shoving them all in one of Musk’s rockets and fire them off into space.

We’re gonna need a bigger rocket…

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Date: 12/08/2026 11:06:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2419419
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

Cymek said:

They really are like the Brown Shirts aren’t they
Not hard to find thousands of humans willing to unleash their nasty tendencies.

I only hope that there’s real consequences for them.

I lked the idea of shoving them all in one of Musk’s rockets and fire them off into space.

we thought the consequences were that they get to dress up and have a chance of getting paid though not always

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Date: 12/08/2026 11:26:15
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2419434
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Residents of Fridley, MN packed a city council meeting last week where police detailed which law enforcement agencies have access to Flock Safety camera footage.
Many residents were particularly concerned about news that some of the footage was used for immigration-related searches.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VdnmPEOiHJc

A rather good speech against the encroachment of Flock cameras in a part of the US.

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Date: 12/08/2026 12:35:27
From: ms spock
ID: 2419462
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

SCIENCE said:

no way, the greatest and most decent leaders the universe has ever seen would

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-12/trumps-secret-plane-switch-sparks-debate-over-missile-decoy/107026462

never throw someone else to the sharks to save themselves

You have to wonder how the staff and press feel about this.

Rubio was on the decoy plane as well.

I read that. Interesting.

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Date: 12/08/2026 12:58:16
From: ms spock
ID: 2419470
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Mehdi Hassan interviews Count Binface

Link

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Date: 12/08/2026 13:16:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 2419479
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

I only hope that there’s real consequences for them.

I lked the idea of shoving them all in one of Musk’s rockets and fire them off into space.

We’re gonna need a bigger rocket…

A fleet of them.

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Date: 12/08/2026 13:51:38
From: kii
ID: 2419485
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EdGgMZrXH/

This guy is freaking the MAGA fuckers out.

Abdul El-Sayed – Wikipedia https://share.google/hf9UALW3UJSqBQSOB

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Date: 12/08/2026 13:57:49
From: kii
ID: 2419487
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EdGgMZrXH/

This guy is freaking the MAGA fuckers out.

Abdul El-Sayed – Wikipedia https://share.google/hf9UALW3UJSqBQSOB

Oh, and his wife is a psychiatrist.

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Date: 12/08/2026 14:06:17
From: ms spock
ID: 2419490
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EdGgMZrXH/

This guy is freaking the MAGA fuckers out.

Abdul El-Sayed – Wikipedia https://share.google/hf9UALW3UJSqBQSOB

I hope he is not assassinated.

Trump encourages stochastic terrorism at every turn.

Fox news is calling him a Communist. Telling Red MAGA that this could be the end of America and Americans.

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Date: 12/08/2026 14:09:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2419494
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


kii said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EdGgMZrXH/

This guy is freaking the MAGA fuckers out.

Abdul El-Sayed – Wikipedia https://share.google/hf9UALW3UJSqBQSOB

Oh, and his wife is a psychiatrist.

is that good or bad

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Date: 12/08/2026 14:14:13
From: kii
ID: 2419499
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


kii said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EdGgMZrXH/

This guy is freaking the MAGA fuckers out.

Abdul El-Sayed – Wikipedia https://share.google/hf9UALW3UJSqBQSOB

I hope he is not assassinated.

Trump encourages stochastic terrorism at every turn.

Fox news is calling him a Communist. Telling Red MAGA that this could be the end of America and Americans.

Yep. Same with the mayor of NYC…Mamdani.

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Date: 12/08/2026 14:17:41
From: ms spock
ID: 2419503
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


ms spock said:

kii said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EdGgMZrXH/

This guy is freaking the MAGA fuckers out.

Abdul El-Sayed – Wikipedia https://share.google/hf9UALW3UJSqBQSOB

I hope he is not assassinated.

Trump encourages stochastic terrorism at every turn.

Fox news is calling him a Communist. Telling Red MAGA that this could be the end of America and Americans.

Yep. Same with the mayor of NYC…Mamdani.

+1

He’s in grave danger as Trump escalates and the right wing echo chambers keep promoting their lies.

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Date: 12/08/2026 14:20:05
From: kii
ID: 2419505
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


kii said:

kii said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EdGgMZrXH/

This guy is freaking the MAGA fuckers out.

Abdul El-Sayed – Wikipedia https://share.google/hf9UALW3UJSqBQSOB

Oh, and his wife is a psychiatrist.

is that good or bad

His mum is a nurse practitioner*, father and stepmother are engineers. Educated family.

*NPs are more qualified than a nurse, not quite as qualified as a doctor.

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Date: 12/08/2026 14:30:25
From: Neophyte
ID: 2419507
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


SCIENCE said:

kii said:

Oh, and his wife is a psychiatrist.

is that good or bad

His mum is a nurse practitioner*, father and stepmother are engineers. Educated family.

*NPs are more qualified than a nurse, not quite as qualified as a doctor.

He’s a Rhodes Scholar, too – aren’t they supposed to be part of some secret cabal?

All that there book learnin’s not good fer’ a soul…

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Date: 12/08/2026 14:34:31
From: Cymek
ID: 2419510
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


kii said:

SCIENCE said:

is that good or bad

His mum is a nurse practitioner*, father and stepmother are engineers. Educated family.

*NPs are more qualified than a nurse, not quite as qualified as a doctor.

He’s a Rhodes Scholar, too – aren’t they supposed to be part of some secret cabal?

All that there book learnin’s not good fer’ a soul…

Yes part of the lost city of Atlantis

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Date: 12/08/2026 14:44:29
From: Woodie
ID: 2419515
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Mehdi Hassan interviews Count Binface

Link

First question I’d ask is: “Why aren’t you called Binny McBinface?”

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Date: 12/08/2026 14:49:55
From: Woodie
ID: 2419516
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

I lked the idea of shoving them all in one of Musk’s rockets and fire them off into space.

We’re gonna need a bigger rocket…

A fleet of them.

What about an arsenal. Is there more in an arsenal than a fleet?

Besides, you’d get the whole of the Orange Dunny Trumpet in one of them rockets, arse’n‘al.

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Date: 12/08/2026 14:56:14
From: ms spock
ID: 2419520
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


ms spock said:

Mehdi Hassan interviews Count Binface

Link

First question I’d ask is: “Why aren’t you called Binny McBinface?”

😂🤣😂

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Date: 12/08/2026 20:10:55
From: kii
ID: 2419590
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

This woman has been discussed in various places all day…I love the “zapping Trump awake” theory.

Brent Molnar: A Voice of Reason

Everyone Is Wondering Who Was Standing with Trump During His Recent Vaccine Conspiracy Charade

Tune out RFK Jr. waxing poetic about Wisconsin epidemiological surveys from 1970, and spot Jayme Leagh Franklin, a living avatar of modern political absurdity. Traced back to UC Berkeley, her story begins on a famously progressive campus. She spent four years treating an undergraduate degree like a covert deep-cover operation, transforming that “radical” college experience straight into a D.C. fast-track resume.

From northern California academia, she catapulted straight into the halls of power. Her main project is The Conservateur, a digital media operation that blends “high fashion” editorial with far-right ideological positioning. It puts reactionary politics inside a palette of muted beige tones, linen dresses, and hair bows. The outlet operates as a seamless fusion of political cynicism and pristine aesthetic curation.

Through this platform, the coquette conservative aesthetic comes to life. Instead of preaching policy from a dusty podium, she delivers medical skepticism using soft lighting, vintage filters, and pastel graphics. The site continuously massages fringe conspiracy theories into wholesome, aspirational lifestyle choices for young suburban women.

That brings us directly to the viral spectacle inside the Oval Office on August 10. Donald Trump sat at the Resolute Desk looking exhausted, attempting to explain how combination shots act like giant soda bottles poured into children, while Jayme stood anchored right behind him. She maintained a position tailored for every news camera in the room.

As RFK Jr. launched into his soliloquy on environmental toxins, viewers worldwide noticed her holding back a knowing smirk alongside an incessant, mechanical nod. The video clip instantly zipped across global networks and social feeds, triggering a brutal wave of online ridicule. Social media users mercilessly dubbed her “AI Bobblehead Barbie” and a “Stepford NPC,” (non-player character, for the uninitiated) laughing at the uncanny, automated rhythm of her nods while the president appeared to micro-nap through the public health discourse.

The White House staff framed her attendance as an “organic voice” representing everyday MAHA Moms fighting for children’s wellness. That framing is political astroturfing turned up to eleven. Parading a battle-tested operative around as a random neighborhood mom who just happened to wander onto the stage is a level of theater that would make Broadway sweat.

Her public persona pushes a stark hypocrisy that critics love to shred. Through The Conservateur, her brand aggressively preaches traditionalism, anti-feminism, domesticity, and a rejection of corporate ambition. Yet her daily reality is that of a hyper-ambitious, beltway-entrenched media executive, former White House staffer, and political insider who spends her life chasing D.C. power rather than living the quiet, offline domestic lifestyle she sells to her followers.

Looking past the grassroots branding, her resume reads like a guided tour through the conservative establishment. With prior stints across the U.S. Senate, the Trump campaign apparatus, Fox News, and the Independent Women’s Forum, her background is built entirely on professional D.C. operative work.

Her presence at the desk was peak brand integration. She treated a high-stakes executive order on public health like an oversized backdrop for personal clout, essentially turning actual medical policy into a temporary photo-op set for her own feed.

The “zapper” rumor also took off across social media, where amateur sleuths began obsessively clipping and dissecting video footage frame by frame. Viewers pointed to what they saw as an undeniable pattern: moments where he appeared to nod off, instantly followed by a subtle, deliberate movement from her that coincided with him suddenly snapping back to attention.

What fueled the speculation even further was her posture, specifically the way she kept one hand awkwardly rested over her belly for extended periods, almost as if concealing or pressing a hidden control. To those pushing the theory, the timing was far too synchronized to be accidental, transforming a strange series of physical quirks into a viral conspiracy that she was using an unseen device to keep him awake on stage.

When people ask who stood beside the president while federal immunization guidance was being upended, the answer is pretty simple. She represents an era where political ideology, social media clout-chasing, and influencer culture merge completely, proving that in modern Washington, a sweeping health decree functions primarily as content waiting to be monetized.

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Date: 13/08/2026 03:54:40
From: dv
ID: 2419625
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I don’t like this new Thunderbirds remake

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/international/on-cam-mystery-woman-smirks-as-trump-falls-asleep-again-during-rfk-jr-meeting-watch/videoshow/133165120.cms

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Date: 13/08/2026 06:42:54
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2419638
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

One of the most prominent faces of Donald Trump’s second administration, press secretary Karoline Leavitt, has announced she is leaving the role less than three months before the critical US midterm elections.

Ms Leavitt, who recently returned to the White House role from maternity leave, said she had decided to quit the position to focus on being a mother.

“Being a mother and welcoming a new baby while working in one of the most demanding jobs in the world has been the most rewarding yet challenging season of my life, to say the least,” Ms Leavitt wrote on X.

“Since returning to the White House after the birth of my daughter, I have felt in my heart that I cannot be the best mom my two young children deserve.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-13/trump-spokeswoman-karoline-leavitt-to-leave-white-house/107031078

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Date: 13/08/2026 06:44:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 2419639
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


One of the most prominent faces of Donald Trump’s second administration, press secretary Karoline Leavitt, has announced she is leaving the role less than three months before the critical US midterm elections.

Ms Leavitt, who recently returned to the White House role from maternity leave, said she had decided to quit the position to focus on being a mother.

“Being a mother and welcoming a new baby while working in one of the most demanding jobs in the world has been the most rewarding yet challenging season of my life, to say the least,” Ms Leavitt wrote on X.

“Since returning to the White House after the birth of my daughter, I have felt in my heart that I cannot be the best mom my two young children deserve.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-13/trump-spokeswoman-karoline-leavitt-to-leave-white-house/107031078

Any excuse will do once the whitewash turns shabby.

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Date: 13/08/2026 06:45:41
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2419640
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

One of the most prominent faces of Donald Trump’s second administration, press secretary Karoline Leavitt, has announced she is leaving the role less than three months before the critical US midterm elections.

Ms Leavitt, who recently returned to the White House role from maternity leave, said she had decided to quit the position to focus on being a mother.

“Being a mother and welcoming a new baby while working in one of the most demanding jobs in the world has been the most rewarding yet challenging season of my life, to say the least,” Ms Leavitt wrote on X.

“Since returning to the White House after the birth of my daughter, I have felt in my heart that I cannot be the best mom my two young children deserve.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-13/trump-spokeswoman-karoline-leavitt-to-leave-white-house/107031078

Any excuse will do once the whitewash turns shabby.

She’s tired of caring for the big orange baby.

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Date: 13/08/2026 08:45:57
From: Ian
ID: 2419658
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 13/08/2026 08:52:19
From: Michael V
ID: 2419661
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ian said:


Ha!

:)

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Date: 13/08/2026 10:40:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2419680
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Ian said:

Ha!

:)

but would it even catch anything

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Date: 13/08/2026 10:42:44
From: dv
ID: 2419684
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 13/08/2026 10:44:13
From: Cymek
ID: 2419687
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Imagine dying for the human equivalent of Jar Jar Binks crossed with Baron Harkonnen

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Date: 13/08/2026 10:59:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2419690
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

dv said:



Imagine dying for the human equivalent of Jar Jar Binks crossed with Baron Harkonnen

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Date: 13/08/2026 11:09:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2419694
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

sorry forgot if repost

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Date: 13/08/2026 11:14:38
From: Cymek
ID: 2419699
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

sorry forgot if repost


Breaking up the vaccines is reasonable if you believe your child has a reaction but you aren’t sure which one.

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Date: 13/08/2026 14:08:43
From: fsm
ID: 2419751
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 13/08/2026 14:33:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2419773
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

I had them steal a pretend camera because they thought it had their picture in it.

so the solution would actually be to just proliferate even more pretend cameras

Signs are supposed to help more than actual cameras.


but meanwhile

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-13/ice-electric-shock-gloves-us-immigration-officers/107031674

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Date: 13/08/2026 14:38:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 2419775
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Signs are supposed to help more than actual cameras.


but meanwhile

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-13/ice-electric-shock-gloves-us-immigration-officers/107031674

Nasty. But know local delinquents I’d like to use them on.

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Date: 13/08/2026 16:33:30
From: Woodie
ID: 2419834
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 13/08/2026 16:43:54
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2419836
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:



Lolz.

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Date: 13/08/2026 16:54:09
From: Michael V
ID: 2419841
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:



LOL

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Date: 13/08/2026 18:38:16
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2419869
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:



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Date: 13/08/2026 19:02:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2419871
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


Woodie said:



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Date: 13/08/2026 19:18:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2419880
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:



I wonder if the Megahold will work?

Plays “Hold Me” in the background.

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Date: 13/08/2026 19:34:19
From: dv
ID: 2419887
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Nothing much happening in the generic congressional ballot polling. Democrats remain about 7% up.


DJT is plumbing new depths, however.


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Date: 14/08/2026 00:20:45
From: kii
ID: 2419937
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Lol…what?
The hair…the googly eyes!!! Perfect!!

Link

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Date: 14/08/2026 13:07:42
From: dv
ID: 2420092
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/13/uss-abraham-conditions-hegseth

Damn

-

Why do I keep posting US stuff in the UK thread

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Date: 14/08/2026 15:14:40
From: dv
ID: 2420150
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Siena polling of NYC voters on Mayor Mamdani (n=880)

Approval 69%
Disapproval 24%

—-

Wall Street Journal…

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Date: 14/08/2026 15:29:06
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2420153
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Date: 14/08/2026 15:33:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2420155
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Siena polling of NYC voters on Mayor Mamdani (n=880)

Approval 69%
Disapproval 24%

—-

Wall Street Journal…

Gosh!

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Date: 14/08/2026 15:45:48
From: ms spock
ID: 2420174
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:



We have got to have the videos.

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Date: 14/08/2026 16:11:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2420195
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

dv said:

Siena polling of NYC voters on Mayor Mamdani (n=880)

Approval 69%
Disapproval 24%

———

Wall Street Journal…

Gosh!

it’s all foreign interferencers’ fault

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Date: 14/08/2026 16:12:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2420196
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

dv said:

Siena polling of NYC voters on Mayor Mamdani (n=880)

Approval 69%
Disapproval 24%

———

Wall Street Journal…

Gosh!

it’s all foreign interferencers’ fault

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Date: 14/08/2026 18:19:18
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2420257
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Date: 14/08/2026 18:44:29
From: buffy
ID: 2420274
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:



From influenza, because the vaccines are too dangerous for him to have them.

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Date: 14/08/2026 19:12:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 2420299
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Donald Trump orders US Navy to use dated fighter launching technology on aircraft carriers

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Date: 14/08/2026 19:13:39
From: buffy
ID: 2420300
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Donald Trump orders US Navy to use dated fighter launching technology on aircraft carriers

Another ABC item. This is just stupid.

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Date: 14/08/2026 19:14:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 2420301
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Donald Trump orders US Navy to use dated fighter launching technology on aircraft carriers

Another ABC item. This is just stupid.

Trump is doing weirder and weirder stuff.

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Date: 14/08/2026 19:46:17
From: party_pants
ID: 2420311
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


Donald Trump orders US Navy to use dated fighter launching technology on aircraft carriers

What a fuckwit. I think thy need to launch him off an aircraft carrier into the sea, preferably already inside a coffin.

You can’t rebuild a ship with steam catapults that wasn’t designed or built for them. Not within 2 years let alone 2 months. At a time when they are losing (already lost?) another major war in west Asia, to take all of their best and newest ships out of commission for a long rebuild. Madness. Utter madness/ Worthy of being dragged out into the street and shot in the head…

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Date: 14/08/2026 20:41:02
From: Ian
ID: 2420333
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

Donald Trump orders US Navy to use dated fighter launching technology on aircraft carriers

What a fuckwit. I think thy need to launch him off an aircraft carrier into the sea, preferably already inside a coffin.

You can’t rebuild a ship with steam catapults that wasn’t designed or built for them. Not within 2 years let alone 2 months. At a time when they are losing (already lost?) another major war in west Asia, to take all of their best and newest ships out of commission for a long rebuild. Madness. Utter madness/ Worthy of being dragged out into the street and shot in the head…

Senator Mark Kelly, an Arizona Democrat and a former astronaut, was more blunt in his reaction to the news.

“I’ve launched off the front of aircraft carriers hundreds of times, have a Master’s degree in aeronautical engineering, and am a test pilot and even I wouldn’t suggest to the Navy how to engineer specific systems on its ships,” Kelly wrote on social media. “Donald Trump should stick to what he knows best – ballrooms, bankruptcy, and bullshit.”

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Date: 15/08/2026 04:53:25
From: dv
ID: 2420381
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Good news everyone!

—-

Q: Family members of US service members are concerned about conditions on the USS Lincoln—

Trump: No they’re not. That ship is moving

Q: Has the deployment gone on too long?

Trump: No. Not nearly long enough.

https://www.threads.com/share/BAt38-Wq1S/

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Date: 15/08/2026 07:27:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 2420384
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Good news everyone!

—-

Q: Family members of US service members are concerned about conditions on the USS Lincoln—

Trump: No they’re not. That ship is moving

Q: Has the deployment gone on too long?

Trump: No. Not nearly long enough.

https://www.threads.com/share/BAt38-Wq1S/

He’s going to be losing votes from military families.

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Date: 15/08/2026 07:44:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 2420385
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

So it is now going to be the Strait of Trump.

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Date: 15/08/2026 08:31:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2420393
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:

So it is now going to be the Strait of Trump.

The 69 dotted line.

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Date: 15/08/2026 08:42:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2420395
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 15/08/2026 10:03:21
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2420421
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

So it is now going to be the Strait of Trump.

The 69 dotted line.

Lol, it’s that Trump marker pen, again, amazing what it can do.

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Date: 15/08/2026 12:38:09
From: dv
ID: 2420487
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Is it weird for the Secretary of Health and Human Services to post this on his official account?

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Date: 15/08/2026 12:41:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 2420488
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Is it weird for the Secretary of Health and Human Services to post this on his official account?

Brain worms?

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Date: 15/08/2026 13:05:10
From: Michael V
ID: 2420494
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Is it weird for the Secretary of Health and Human Services to post this on his official account?

Everything seems weird now. I guess I am just old, jaded and disappointed about how things have turned out.

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Date: 15/08/2026 13:06:51
From: party_pants
ID: 2420497
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


dv said:

Is it weird for the Secretary of Health and Human Services to post this on his official account?

Everything seems weird now. I guess I am just old, jaded and disappointed about how things have turned out.

Weird is the new normal.

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Date: 15/08/2026 13:09:44
From: Arts
ID: 2420499
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


dv said:

Is it weird for the Secretary of Health and Human Services to post this on his official account?

Everything seems weird now. I guess I am just old, jaded and disappointed about how things have turned out.

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Date: 15/08/2026 13:10:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2420500
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

Is it weird for the Secretary of Health and Human Services to post this on his official account?

Everything seems weird now. I guess I am just old, jaded and disappointed about how things have turned out.

Weird is the new normal.

If everything’s weird, nothing is weird.

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Date: 15/08/2026 13:21:39
From: Michael V
ID: 2420506
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Arts said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

Is it weird for the Secretary of Health and Human Services to post this on his official account?

Everything seems weird now. I guess I am just old, jaded and disappointed about how things have turned out.


Oh.

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Date: 15/08/2026 13:41:01
From: kii
ID: 2420515
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


dv said:

Is it weird for the Secretary of Health and Human Services to post this on his official account?

Everything seems weird now. I guess I am just old, jaded and disappointed about how things have turned out.

It’s just SNAFU.

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Date: 15/08/2026 14:20:00
From: dv
ID: 2420535
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 15/08/2026 14:28:07
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2420537
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

So it is now going to be the Strait of Trump.

The 69 dotted line.

Lol, it’s that Trump marker pen, again, amazing what it can do.

I want one so I can shift my home to somewhere with a view.

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Date: 15/08/2026 14:35:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2420539
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Is it weird for the Secretary of Health and Human Services to post this on his official account?

Everything seems weird now. I guess I am just old, jaded and disappointed about how things have turned out.

Weird is the new normal.

we mean is governance of countries a serious matter

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Date: 15/08/2026 14:41:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2420546
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

The 69 dotted line.

Lol, it’s that Trump marker pen, again, amazing what it can do.

I want one so I can shift my home to somewhere with a view.

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Date: 15/08/2026 14:42:25
From: Michael V
ID: 2420547
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



LOL.

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Date: 15/08/2026 14:46:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2420550
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

dv said:


LOL.

move over LSCS, hello high seas aryan section

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Date: 15/08/2026 15:05:00
From: party_pants
ID: 2420553
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

You know what, IO reckon if Iran and Oman developed a toll system for the Strait of Hormuz and offered Trump (personally) a small percentage of the fees, I reckon he’d take the offer and declare it a great victory.

He is that corrupt.

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Date: 15/08/2026 15:24:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 2420559
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


You know what, IO reckon if Iran and Oman developed a toll system for the Strait of Hormuz and offered Trump (personally) a small percentage of the fees, I reckon he’d take the offer and declare it a great victory.

He is that corrupt.

He is at that.

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Date: 15/08/2026 15:30:45
From: ms spock
ID: 2420560
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

Everything seems weird now. I guess I am just old, jaded and disappointed about how things have turned out.

Weird is the new normal.

If everything’s weird, nothing is weird.

Shite is weird. Very weird and strange indeed.

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Date: 15/08/2026 15:35:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 2420561
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

Weird is the new normal.

If everything’s weird, nothing is weird.

Shite is weird. Very weird and strange indeed.

The circus has come to town. With a full array of clowns and a snake oil salesman as the master.

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Date: 15/08/2026 15:48:13
From: fsm
ID: 2420562
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


You know what, IO reckon if Iran and Oman developed a toll system for the Strait of Hormuz and offered Trump (personally) a small percentage of the fees, I reckon he’d take the offer and declare it a great victory.

He is that corrupt.

I think you have just ended the war.

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Date: 15/08/2026 17:44:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2420628
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Texas Governor Greg Abbott has threatened to pull all state grants to two major airports over their Islamic religious accommodation facilities – prompting officials at one major hub to ditch their plans for a Muslim foot washing station.

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Date: 15/08/2026 18:01:36
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2420640
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Date: 15/08/2026 18:03:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2420643
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:



yeah but how many were named Barack then

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Date: 15/08/2026 18:24:32
From: dv
ID: 2420659
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Texas Governor Greg Abbott has threatened to pull all state grants to two major airports over their Islamic religious accommodation facilities – prompting officials at one major hub to ditch their plans for a Muslim foot washing station.

It was good enough for Jesus

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Date: 15/08/2026 18:42:35
From: kii
ID: 2420669
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Texas Governor Greg Abbott has threatened to pull all state grants to two major airports over their Islamic religious accommodation facilities – prompting officials at one major hub to ditch their plans for a Muslim foot washing station.

Meanwhile…
Definitely doesn’t have a Food Handler’s Certificate.

Abbott breathing all over the brisket as he chops it.

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Date: 15/08/2026 21:07:16
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2420712
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump is steering America towards a financial crisis
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
August 14, 2026 — 5:15pm

A dangerous view is creeping into the markets that the US has already gone so far down the path of a debt compound trap that it dare not raise interest rates to control inflation.

The US Treasury has become acutely dependent on short-term funding from hedge funds, many tapping the $US8.3 trillion ($11.6 trillion) money market and some operating with up to 100 times leverage. The share of purchases coming from stable lenders, such as foreign central banks and sovereign wealth funds, has been drying up.

Steven Blitz, the chief US economist at TS Lombard, says the Federal Reserve cannot tighten hard without risking a chain reaction. Financing costs would “explode”.

“Raising rates today immediately impacts the cost of nearly 25 per cent of the federal debt, where issuance is growing fastest,” he said.

The US Treasury has to roll over $US6 trillion of debt every three months in an increasingly sceptical market, as well as issuing $US2 trillion of new debt annually to cover the worst structural deficit in US peacetime history.

Annual gross financing needs – the key warning metric watched by rating agencies and bond funds – was 26 per cent of GDP in 2010. The International Monetary Fund says the figure will reach 45 per cent this year and is on track for 60 per cent by the early 2030s on current policies. No great power has long endured at that sort of level.

Scott Bessent, the poacher-turned-gamekeeper now in charge of the US Treasury, has been concentrating ever more borrowing on short-term bills. It is a way to keep a lid on the spiralling interest cost of the US national debt, which has quadrupled to $US1 trillion in a decade, now exceeds the US defence budget and is fast heading towards uncharted waters above 4 per cent of GDP.

But trying to defer America’s fiscal reckoning by monkeying with debt instruments is the trick used by broken hegemons through the ages. It is a Faustian pact.

We know how worried Bessent is about soaring bond yields – approaching a two-decade high – by the way he intervened alongside Japan earlier this month to halt speculation against the yen. He activated an obscure mechanism known as the FIMA Repo Facility to let Japan pawn a chunk of its $US1.1 trillion of US Treasuries in exchange for dollar loans rather than selling these bonds on the open market.

He joined the action by mobilising the Treasury’s holding of euros, without first telling the European Central Bank – a shocking breakdown of central bank etiquette. All this screams desperation.

Hedge funds have become the marginal buyers of US debt, doubling their share to 9 per cent of total US Treasury purchases over the past four years. They have been borrowing with extreme leverage on the repo market – a core part of financial plumbing – in order to extract arbitrage gains.

Both the IMF and the Bank for International Settlements have warned that this structure is an accident waiting to happen. It amplified a spiral of forced selling and a near meltdown of the US Treasury market in the COVID panic of March 2020. The critical point is that the whole US financial and fiscal system has never been so sensitive to short-term interest rates.

Kevin Warsh, the untested new Fed chairman, faces an invidious choice. The indecent manner of his appointment degraded his credibility before he even started. Markets know that President Donald Trump persecuted his predecessor for refusing to cut rates and refusing to become the infamous Arthur Burns of our age. They also know that Warsh’s billionaire father-in-law is a close Trump confederate and a key author of the Greenland grab.

Warsh struggled to articulate a coherent intellectual argument after the most recent policy meeting for why he was not raising rates. He could not explain how he intends to bring stubborn US inflation back towards the 2 per cent target when it is clearly going the other way.

“Sternly staring at inflation until it melts before our withering gaze is not an option,” fellow Fed board member Christopher Waller said.

Warsh faced the unusual rebuke of three voting dissenters and some have been outspoken to the point of contempt. The market verdict has been lapidary.

Warsh argues that AI is deflationary and therefore overrides the Phillips Curve, making it possible to combine blistering growth with low inflation. I am friendly to this line of thinking, but it is not entirely convincing coming from Warsh, who used to be a chest-beating “inflation nutter”. Many suspect that he has latched on to this idea as a pretext for doing Trump’s bidding.

Reports that he talks to Trump “all the time” confirm the fears. Previous Fed chairman Jerome Powell’s working code was always that the proper level of intercourse between the US president and the Fed chairman is “zero”.

The Dornbusch adage in the markets is that fiscal and financial crises take longer to happen than you think possible but then happen faster than you ever imagined.

We know that US federal debt is compounding at a rate of 3.5 per cent of GDP each year. The mechanical rise in entitlements – ie, middle-class welfare – has been part of the landscape for a long time. Trump 1.0 tax cuts, COVID and Joe Biden’s Rooseveltian New Deal together pushed the envelope a lot further. Trump 2.0’s One Big, Beautiful Bill tests the limits.

The IMF forecasts a US general government deficit of 7.4 per cent of GDP or higher every single year from 2026 to 2031. Now Trump wants to raise the Pentagon budget by 60 per cent and fritter away $275 billion on his “golden fleet” of Trump-class battleships – an idée fixe ever since he watched the 1950s telly series Victory at Sea.

It takes a serious trigger to detonate a crisis of financial confidence in a great power with deep economic strengths and a world reserve currency. Military overstretch is usually to blame, the cause of imperial Spain’s default in 1575 and Britain’s convertibility crisis in 1947.

The ingredients for some sort of American financial crisis are falling into place, disguised for now – but also compounded – by the AI bubble. The global market no longer has full faith in the management of the US Treasury and the Fed.

The US has stopped upholding free trade and open navigation, switching sides to become the chief instigator of piracy and world disorder. It has squandered much of its arsenal on an ill-planned war that it cannot end without accepting humiliation and that has shown the US to be a weaker military power than we all thought. It has further wrecked US alliances and largely played into the hands of Xi Jinping’s revanchist China.

The disaster is nearly complete. Now we await the US midterm elections. Should the democratic transfer of power in Congress be obstructed by meddling with the results in swing states, we may have our trigger.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/trump-is-steering-america-towards-a-financial-crisis-20260812-p60nhk.html?ref=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss_feed

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Date: 15/08/2026 21:28:59
From: Woodie
ID: 2420715
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Trump is steering America towards a financial crisis
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
August 14, 2026 — 5:15pm

A dangerous view is creeping into the markets that the US has already gone so far down the path of a debt compound trap that it dare not raise interest rates to control inflation.

The US Treasury has become acutely dependent on short-term funding from hedge funds, many tapping the $US8.3 trillion ($11.6 trillion) money market and some operating with up to 100 times leverage. The share of purchases coming from stable lenders, such as foreign central banks and sovereign wealth funds, has been drying up.

Steven Blitz, the chief US economist at TS Lombard, says the Federal Reserve cannot tighten hard without risking a chain reaction. Financing costs would “explode”.

“Raising rates today immediately impacts the cost of nearly 25 per cent of the federal debt, where issuance is growing fastest,” he said.

The US Treasury has to roll over $US6 trillion of debt every three months in an increasingly sceptical market, as well as issuing $US2 trillion of new debt annually to cover the worst structural deficit in US peacetime history.

Annual gross financing needs – the key warning metric watched by rating agencies and bond funds – was 26 per cent of GDP in 2010. The International Monetary Fund says the figure will reach 45 per cent this year and is on track for 60 per cent by the early 2030s on current policies. No great power has long endured at that sort of level.

Scott Bessent, the poacher-turned-gamekeeper now in charge of the US Treasury, has been concentrating ever more borrowing on short-term bills. It is a way to keep a lid on the spiralling interest cost of the US national debt, which has quadrupled to $US1 trillion in a decade, now exceeds the US defence budget and is fast heading towards uncharted waters above 4 per cent of GDP.

But trying to defer America’s fiscal reckoning by monkeying with debt instruments is the trick used by broken hegemons through the ages. It is a Faustian pact.

We know how worried Bessent is about soaring bond yields – approaching a two-decade high – by the way he intervened alongside Japan earlier this month to halt speculation against the yen. He activated an obscure mechanism known as the FIMA Repo Facility to let Japan pawn a chunk of its $US1.1 trillion of US Treasuries in exchange for dollar loans rather than selling these bonds on the open market.

He joined the action by mobilising the Treasury’s holding of euros, without first telling the European Central Bank – a shocking breakdown of central bank etiquette. All this screams desperation.

Hedge funds have become the marginal buyers of US debt, doubling their share to 9 per cent of total US Treasury purchases over the past four years. They have been borrowing with extreme leverage on the repo market – a core part of financial plumbing – in order to extract arbitrage gains.

Both the IMF and the Bank for International Settlements have warned that this structure is an accident waiting to happen. It amplified a spiral of forced selling and a near meltdown of the US Treasury market in the COVID panic of March 2020. The critical point is that the whole US financial and fiscal system has never been so sensitive to short-term interest rates.

Kevin Warsh, the untested new Fed chairman, faces an invidious choice. The indecent manner of his appointment degraded his credibility before he even started. Markets know that President Donald Trump persecuted his predecessor for refusing to cut rates and refusing to become the infamous Arthur Burns of our age. They also know that Warsh’s billionaire father-in-law is a close Trump confederate and a key author of the Greenland grab.

Warsh struggled to articulate a coherent intellectual argument after the most recent policy meeting for why he was not raising rates. He could not explain how he intends to bring stubborn US inflation back towards the 2 per cent target when it is clearly going the other way.

“Sternly staring at inflation until it melts before our withering gaze is not an option,” fellow Fed board member Christopher Waller said.

Warsh faced the unusual rebuke of three voting dissenters and some have been outspoken to the point of contempt. The market verdict has been lapidary.

Warsh argues that AI is deflationary and therefore overrides the Phillips Curve, making it possible to combine blistering growth with low inflation. I am friendly to this line of thinking, but it is not entirely convincing coming from Warsh, who used to be a chest-beating “inflation nutter”. Many suspect that he has latched on to this idea as a pretext for doing Trump’s bidding.

Reports that he talks to Trump “all the time” confirm the fears. Previous Fed chairman Jerome Powell’s working code was always that the proper level of intercourse between the US president and the Fed chairman is “zero”.

The Dornbusch adage in the markets is that fiscal and financial crises take longer to happen than you think possible but then happen faster than you ever imagined.

We know that US federal debt is compounding at a rate of 3.5 per cent of GDP each year. The mechanical rise in entitlements – ie, middle-class welfare – has been part of the landscape for a long time. Trump 1.0 tax cuts, COVID and Joe Biden’s Rooseveltian New Deal together pushed the envelope a lot further. Trump 2.0’s One Big, Beautiful Bill tests the limits.

The IMF forecasts a US general government deficit of 7.4 per cent of GDP or higher every single year from 2026 to 2031. Now Trump wants to raise the Pentagon budget by 60 per cent and fritter away $275 billion on his “golden fleet” of Trump-class battleships – an idée fixe ever since he watched the 1950s telly series Victory at Sea.

It takes a serious trigger to detonate a crisis of financial confidence in a great power with deep economic strengths and a world reserve currency. Military overstretch is usually to blame, the cause of imperial Spain’s default in 1575 and Britain’s convertibility crisis in 1947.

The ingredients for some sort of American financial crisis are falling into place, disguised for now – but also compounded – by the AI bubble. The global market no longer has full faith in the management of the US Treasury and the Fed.

The US has stopped upholding free trade and open navigation, switching sides to become the chief instigator of piracy and world disorder. It has squandered much of its arsenal on an ill-planned war that it cannot end without accepting humiliation and that has shown the US to be a weaker military power than we all thought. It has further wrecked US alliances and largely played into the hands of Xi Jinping’s revanchist China.

The disaster is nearly complete. Now we await the US midterm elections. Should the democratic transfer of power in Congress be obstructed by meddling with the results in swing states, we may have our trigger.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/trump-is-steering-america-towards-a-financial-crisis-20260812-p60nhk.html?ref=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss_feed

Sounds so good, I’m just forced to believe it.

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Date: 15/08/2026 23:20:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2420731
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Trump is steering America towards a financial crisis
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
August 14, 2026 — 5:15pm

A dangerous view is creeping into the markets that the US has already gone so far down the path of a debt compound trap that it dare not raise interest rates to control inflation.

The US Treasury has become acutely dependent on short-term funding from hedge funds, many tapping the $US8.3 trillion ($11.6 trillion) money market and some operating with up to 100 times leverage. The share of purchases coming from stable lenders, such as foreign central banks and sovereign wealth funds, has been drying up.

Steven Blitz, the chief US economist at TS Lombard, says the Federal Reserve cannot tighten hard without risking a chain reaction. Financing costs would “explode”.

“Raising rates today immediately impacts the cost of nearly 25 per cent of the federal debt, where issuance is growing fastest,” he said.

The US Treasury has to roll over $US6 trillion of debt every three months in an increasingly sceptical market, as well as issuing $US2 trillion of new debt annually to cover the worst structural deficit in US peacetime history.

Annual gross financing needs – the key warning metric watched by rating agencies and bond funds – was 26 per cent of GDP in 2010. The International Monetary Fund says the figure will reach 45 per cent this year and is on track for 60 per cent by the early 2030s on current policies. No great power has long endured at that sort of level.

Scott Bessent, the poacher-turned-gamekeeper now in charge of the US Treasury, has been concentrating ever more borrowing on short-term bills. It is a way to keep a lid on the spiralling interest cost of the US national debt, which has quadrupled to $US1 trillion in a decade, now exceeds the US defence budget and is fast heading towards uncharted waters above 4 per cent of GDP.

But trying to defer America’s fiscal reckoning by monkeying with debt instruments is the trick used by broken hegemons through the ages. It is a Faustian pact.

We know how worried Bessent is about soaring bond yields – approaching a two-decade high – by the way he intervened alongside Japan earlier this month to halt speculation against the yen. He activated an obscure mechanism known as the FIMA Repo Facility to let Japan pawn a chunk of its $US1.1 trillion of US Treasuries in exchange for dollar loans rather than selling these bonds on the open market.

He joined the action by mobilising the Treasury’s holding of euros, without first telling the European Central Bank – a shocking breakdown of central bank etiquette. All this screams desperation.

Hedge funds have become the marginal buyers of US debt, doubling their share to 9 per cent of total US Treasury purchases over the past four years. They have been borrowing with extreme leverage on the repo market – a core part of financial plumbing – in order to extract arbitrage gains.

Both the IMF and the Bank for International Settlements have warned that this structure is an accident waiting to happen. It amplified a spiral of forced selling and a near meltdown of the US Treasury market in the COVID panic of March 2020. The critical point is that the whole US financial and fiscal system has never been so sensitive to short-term interest rates.

Kevin Warsh, the untested new Fed chairman, faces an invidious choice. The indecent manner of his appointment degraded his credibility before he even started. Markets know that President Donald Trump persecuted his predecessor for refusing to cut rates and refusing to become the infamous Arthur Burns of our age. They also know that Warsh’s billionaire father-in-law is a close Trump confederate and a key author of the Greenland grab.

Warsh struggled to articulate a coherent intellectual argument after the most recent policy meeting for why he was not raising rates. He could not explain how he intends to bring stubborn US inflation back towards the 2 per cent target when it is clearly going the other way.

“Sternly staring at inflation until it melts before our withering gaze is not an option,” fellow Fed board member Christopher Waller said.

Warsh faced the unusual rebuke of three voting dissenters and some have been outspoken to the point of contempt. The market verdict has been lapidary.

Warsh argues that AI is deflationary and therefore overrides the Phillips Curve, making it possible to combine blistering growth with low inflation. I am friendly to this line of thinking, but it is not entirely convincing coming from Warsh, who used to be a chest-beating “inflation nutter”. Many suspect that he has latched on to this idea as a pretext for doing Trump’s bidding.

Reports that he talks to Trump “all the time” confirm the fears. Previous Fed chairman Jerome Powell’s working code was always that the proper level of intercourse between the US president and the Fed chairman is “zero”.

The Dornbusch adage in the markets is that fiscal and financial crises take longer to happen than you think possible but then happen faster than you ever imagined.

We know that US federal debt is compounding at a rate of 3.5 per cent of GDP each year. The mechanical rise in entitlements – ie, middle-class welfare – has been part of the landscape for a long time. Trump 1.0 tax cuts, COVID and Joe Biden’s Rooseveltian New Deal together pushed the envelope a lot further. Trump 2.0’s One Big, Beautiful Bill tests the limits.

The IMF forecasts a US general government deficit of 7.4 per cent of GDP or higher every single year from 2026 to 2031. Now Trump wants to raise the Pentagon budget by 60 per cent and fritter away $275 billion on his “golden fleet” of Trump-class battleships – an idée fixe ever since he watched the 1950s telly series Victory at Sea.

It takes a serious trigger to detonate a crisis of financial confidence in a great power with deep economic strengths and a world reserve currency. Military overstretch is usually to blame, the cause of imperial Spain’s default in 1575 and Britain’s convertibility crisis in 1947.

The ingredients for some sort of American financial crisis are falling into place, disguised for now – but also compounded – by the AI bubble. The global market no longer has full faith in the management of the US Treasury and the Fed.

The US has stopped upholding free trade and open navigation, switching sides to become the chief instigator of piracy and world disorder. It has squandered much of its arsenal on an ill-planned war that it cannot end without accepting humiliation and that has shown the US to be a weaker military power than we all thought. It has further wrecked US alliances and largely played into the hands of Xi Jinping’s revanchist China.

The disaster is nearly complete. Now we await the US midterm elections. Should the democratic transfer of power in Congress be obstructed by meddling with the results in swing states, we may have our trigger.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/trump-is-steering-america-towards-a-financial-crisis-20260812-p60nhk.html?ref=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss_feed

Sounds so good, I’m just forced to believe it.

ah yes another free pass for “the worst structural deficit in US peacetime history” because they simply conducted special military operations rather than getting embroiled in war

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Date: 16/08/2026 01:57:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2420740
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

LOL

https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2026/aug/15/will-aoc-run-for-president

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Date: 16/08/2026 08:39:06
From: ms spock
ID: 2420756
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:

If everything’s weird, nothing is weird.

Shite is weird. Very weird and strange indeed.

The circus has come to town. With a full array of clowns and a snake oil salesman as the master.

We don’t need to send out the clowns. We need to put them in a cannon and fire them into the sun.

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Date: 16/08/2026 10:42:29
From: kii
ID: 2420796
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Jim Wright is a retired US Navy Chief Warrant Officer and freelance writer.

He’s aka Stonekettle Station.

USS George Washington and its strike group were spotted transiting the Straits of Malacca earlier today headed for the Indian Ocean.

Reportedly on the way to relieve USS Abraham Lincoln in the Middle East.

USS Washington has already been on patrol for three months. Now, the strike group is suddenly diverted to the Middle East.

Trump and Secretary Kegstand have repeatedly dismissed credible reports of deteriorating conditions in the USS Lincoln Strike Group and the mental state of the crews after nine months on station, and over 200 days at sea without a break. But here’s the thing: You don’t pull an entire strike group off its patrol in the South China sea, literally abandon a strategic mission, abandon an entire theater to China, and send it a thousand miles across the Indian Ocean (hell, you DON’T transit the Strait of Malacca with a CARRIER) unless you absolutely have to.

The Navy wouldn’t do THAT, if the reports from Lincoln were not only true, but much worse than the public knows.

You don’t do that, if you think the crew of Lincoln are liars and everything is fine.

There’s no way Hegseth and Trump don’t believe those reports, despite their obvious and stupid public lies.

No, you do that in desperation, because you don’t have any other plan, because you’ve screwed this up so badly you need to cover your ass before it gets even worse. Before the public outcry gets any worse.

You do THAT because this Administration is a bunch of rank amateurs who are massively out of their depth.

But they’re just robbing Peter to pay Paul, probably in worthless TrumpCoin to boot. Because here’s the rest of it: If there’s no maintenance and supply for Lincoln, there won’t be any for Washington.

If there’s no safe harbor for Lincoln in the Middle East, there isn’t any for Washington.

They’ve simply swapped a used-up 5000 Sailors for 5000 more who have already been on patrol for three months and it’s not going to be long before Washington’s crew are in the same sorry state as Lincoln.

They’re kicking the can down the road and hoping no one notices.

And AGAIN, without Washington, there’s no presence in the South China Sea. Trump and Hegseth are literally triaging missions. Abandoning strategic theaters to cover the fact that Trump is utterly losing his idiotic war with Iran.

Deployment schedules will be affected for years.

Readiness will be impacted for years — and that’s without Trump insane order yesterday directing the Navy to return to steam catapults like something from the 1950s. You have NO idea the absolute chaos that’s going to cause. But I digress.

The impact on recruiting and retention, I can’t even imagine.

None of this is sustainable.

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Date: 17/08/2026 03:13:33
From: kii
ID: 2421111
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump family history.

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Date: 17/08/2026 10:38:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2421157
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 17/08/2026 10:52:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2421162
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

still valid without context

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Date: 17/08/2026 10:52:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2421163
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged


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Date: 17/08/2026 11:03:11
From: dv
ID: 2421165
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

still valid without context


I would like some context though

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Date: 17/08/2026 11:04:00
From: Cymek
ID: 2421167
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

still valid without context


Getting shafted hurts less of course

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Date: 17/08/2026 11:37:53
From: dv
ID: 2421171
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Democrat House of Representatives leader Hakeem Jeffries talks about his opposition to universal healthcare.

https://www.newsweek.com/hakeem-jeffries-rejects-medicare-for-all-dsa-agenda-12328842

It’s typical to say that the Democrats are equivalent to a centre-right party elsewhere in the developed world, but in reality the centre-right parties elsewhere are fine with Universal Healthcare. No one in New Zealand’s National Party or the German CDU or British Conservatives opposes Universal Healthcare.

The Democrats are further to the right of the centre-right so you just have to call them a Right Wing Party.

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Date: 17/08/2026 11:44:40
From: kii
ID: 2421173
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Democrat House of Representatives leader Hakeem Jeffries talks about his opposition to universal healthcare.

https://www.newsweek.com/hakeem-jeffries-rejects-medicare-for-all-dsa-agenda-12328842

It’s typical to say that the Democrats are equivalent to a centre-right party elsewhere in the developed world, but in reality the centre-right parties elsewhere are fine with Universal Healthcare. No one in New Zealand’s National Party or the German CDU or British Conservatives opposes Universal Healthcare.

The Democrats are further to the right of the centre-right so you just have to call them a Right Wing Party.

Yes.

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Date: 17/08/2026 11:46:33
From: Cymek
ID: 2421175
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Democrat House of Representatives leader Hakeem Jeffries talks about his opposition to universal healthcare.

https://www.newsweek.com/hakeem-jeffries-rejects-medicare-for-all-dsa-agenda-12328842

It’s typical to say that the Democrats are equivalent to a centre-right party elsewhere in the developed world, but in reality the centre-right parties elsewhere are fine with Universal Healthcare. No one in New Zealand’s National Party or the German CDU or British Conservatives opposes Universal Healthcare.

The Democrats are further to the right of the centre-right so you just have to call them a Right Wing Party.

It would be interesting to see the cost of no universal healthcare and reliance on insurance instead over a generation.
I suppose if you don’t give a shit about anyone whose part of the 98% it doesn’t matter
Combined with you work or you starve mentality it would add up to extremely poor health conditions.

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Date: 17/08/2026 11:52:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2421178
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

still valid without context


I would like some context though

Getting shafted hurts less of course

it’s alleged that a good insulating coat of baby oil should minimise the human rights violating torture potential of electroshock gloves

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Date: 17/08/2026 11:52:38
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2421179
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Democrat House of Representatives leader Hakeem Jeffries talks about his opposition to universal healthcare.

https://www.newsweek.com/hakeem-jeffries-rejects-medicare-for-all-dsa-agenda-12328842

It’s typical to say that the Democrats are equivalent to a centre-right party elsewhere in the developed world, but in reality the centre-right parties elsewhere are fine with Universal Healthcare. No one in New Zealand’s National Party or the German CDU or British Conservatives opposes Universal Healthcare.

The Democrats are further to the right of the centre-right so you just have to call them a Right Wing Party.

I mentioned something much like that on another forum I frequent, the reply was angry.
A lot of people seem to regard the D’s as either left or even far left, which I find to be ridiculous.

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Date: 17/08/2026 12:01:28
From: Cymek
ID: 2421182
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


dv said:

Democrat House of Representatives leader Hakeem Jeffries talks about his opposition to universal healthcare.

https://www.newsweek.com/hakeem-jeffries-rejects-medicare-for-all-dsa-agenda-12328842

It’s typical to say that the Democrats are equivalent to a centre-right party elsewhere in the developed world, but in reality the centre-right parties elsewhere are fine with Universal Healthcare. No one in New Zealand’s National Party or the German CDU or British Conservatives opposes Universal Healthcare.

The Democrats are further to the right of the centre-right so you just have to call them a Right Wing Party.

I mentioned something much like that on another forum I frequent, the reply was angry.
A lot of people seem to regard the D’s as either left or even far left, which I find to be ridiculous.

Would should be a position in politics is something along the lines of a decency viewpoint
This seems to be an astonishing point of view though that life should be respected regardless of all else.
I

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Date: 17/08/2026 12:16:35
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2421191
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Spiny Norman said:

dv said:

Democrat House of Representatives leader Hakeem Jeffries talks about his opposition to universal healthcare.

https://www.newsweek.com/hakeem-jeffries-rejects-medicare-for-all-dsa-agenda-12328842

It’s typical to say that the Democrats are equivalent to a centre-right party elsewhere in the developed world, but in reality the centre-right parties elsewhere are fine with Universal Healthcare. No one in New Zealand’s National Party or the German CDU or British Conservatives opposes Universal Healthcare.

The Democrats are further to the right of the centre-right so you just have to call them a Right Wing Party.

I mentioned something much like that on another forum I frequent, the reply was angry.
A lot of people seem to regard the D’s as either left or even far left, which I find to be ridiculous.

Would should be a position in politics is something along the lines of a decency viewpoint
This seems to be an astonishing point of view though that life should be respected regardless of all else.

For sure. We all have our realised & unrealised biases though.
I am acutely aware of that, after growing up in a house that supported Party A and so I would constantly find fault with Party B. Years back I realised that Party A was the ones that were doing a terrible job in many ways so I swapped to Party B.
I have to make sure that I don’t lose the ability to find fault & criticise the party(s) I would support these days.

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Date: 17/08/2026 12:30:15
From: Cymek
ID: 2421198
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Cymek said:

Spiny Norman said:

I mentioned something much like that on another forum I frequent, the reply was angry.
A lot of people seem to regard the D’s as either left or even far left, which I find to be ridiculous.

Would should be a position in politics is something along the lines of a decency viewpoint
This seems to be an astonishing point of view though that life should be respected regardless of all else.

For sure. We all have our realised & unrealised biases though.
I am acutely aware of that, after growing up in a house that supported Party A and so I would constantly find fault with Party B. Years back I realised that Party A was the ones that were doing a terrible job in many ways so I swapped to Party B.
I have to make sure that I don’t lose the ability to find fault & criticise the party(s) I would support these days.

That wasn’t a dig at you.
More that if you are a person who thinks everyone deserves a fair go and that a number of ways human civilisations works is wrong you are considered an extremist.
It’s considered perfectly OK to finds ways to steal, co-opt other nations resources and if the population suffer that’s the cost of doing business

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Date: 17/08/2026 12:34:56
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2421203
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Spiny Norman said:

Cymek said:

Would should be a position in politics is something along the lines of a decency viewpoint
This seems to be an astonishing point of view though that life should be respected regardless of all else.

For sure. We all have our realised & unrealised biases though.
I am acutely aware of that, after growing up in a house that supported Party A and so I would constantly find fault with Party B. Years back I realised that Party A was the ones that were doing a terrible job in many ways so I swapped to Party B.
I have to make sure that I don’t lose the ability to find fault & criticise the party(s) I would support these days.

That wasn’t a dig at you.
More that if you are a person who thinks everyone deserves a fair go and that a number of ways human civilisations works is wrong you are considered an extremist.
It’s considered perfectly OK to finds ways to steal, co-opt other nations resources and if the population suffer that’s the cost of doing business

I was agreeing with you ;)

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Date: 17/08/2026 13:01:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2421211
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

imagine working towards an original position damn

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Date: 17/08/2026 13:08:08
From: kii
ID: 2421212
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Jim Wright aka Stonekettle Station…

One thing you can always count on with Trump: Trump will every time ally himself to thugs, dictators, and totalitarians while at the same time belittle and alienate our allies. He’s LITERALLY sucking up to North Korea and frankly I can’t wait to watch the MAGA fondlers at Fox News, who would have absolutely shit their collective colons inside out in patriotic rage if Biden had ever said any such thing, spin this.

I’ll tell you what though, if Iran had nuclear weapons the Ayatollah would be Trump’s new best friend.

If this were 1941, we’d be entering WWII on the side of the Nazis.

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Date: 17/08/2026 13:24:11
From: Cymek
ID: 2421218
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Jim Wright aka Stonekettle Station…

One thing you can always count on with Trump: Trump will every time ally himself to thugs, dictators, and totalitarians while at the same time belittle and alienate our allies. He’s LITERALLY sucking up to North Korea and frankly I can’t wait to watch the MAGA fondlers at Fox News, who would have absolutely shit their collective colons inside out in patriotic rage if Biden had ever said any such thing, spin this.

I’ll tell you what though, if Iran had nuclear weapons the Ayatollah would be Trump’s new best friend.

If this were 1941, we’d be entering WWII on the side of the Nazis.


How many times have allies supported the USA and its gone wrong.
Iraq and Afghanistan what a misery we created for the people living there
They already had a shit deal and we made it worse or at least no better.

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Date: 17/08/2026 13:39:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2421219
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


kii said:

Jim Wright aka Stonekettle Station…

One thing you can always count on with Trump: Trump will every time ally himself to thugs, dictators, and totalitarians while at the same time belittle and alienate our allies. He’s LITERALLY sucking up to North Korea and frankly I can’t wait to watch the MAGA fondlers at Fox News, who would have absolutely shit their collective colons inside out in patriotic rage if Biden had ever said any such thing, spin this.

I’ll tell you what though, if Iran had nuclear weapons the Ayatollah would be Trump’s new best friend.

If this were 1941, we’d be entering WWII on the side of the Nazis.


How many times have allies supported the USA and its gone wrong.
Iraq and Afghanistan what a misery we created for the people living there
They already had a shit deal and we made it worse or at least no better.

well that’s not a fair judgment is it, the great defenders of freedom have regime changed many countries for the better, liberated thousands of millions of people, brought gun culture and Jesus to every continent, saved the world

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Date: 18/08/2026 03:05:09
From: kii
ID: 2421397
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

AR-15 mass shootings in the USA.

Warning. A lot of graphic photos and descriptions. Including Uvalde and Sandy Hook.

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Date: 18/08/2026 11:47:33
From: ms spock
ID: 2421505
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Marc Elias from Democracy Docket on the Midterm Elections.

Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dhillon just announced the Justice Department will deploy 1,000 election observers for the midterms. The DOJ wants you to think this is business as usual, but Democracy Docket founder Marc Elias breaks down why this deployment is anything but and how it’s laying the groundwork for what comes after Election Day. Meanwhile, it’s no surprise the announcement comes the same day the DOJ lost its 23rd straight court case over access to sensitive voter data. Plus, where are these 1,000 monitors actually coming from?

Link

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Date: 18/08/2026 13:46:53
From: ms spock
ID: 2421582
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

A Governor’s ad.

They spent money on this.

Link

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Date: 18/08/2026 13:52:40
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2421585
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

She’s as dumb as a box of rocks (with apologies to the V’s) but this is quite concerning.
And yet another distraction from the Epstein files.

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Date: 18/08/2026 14:14:17
From: ms spock
ID: 2421605
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

This political ad is amusing for a different reason.

Link

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Date: 18/08/2026 14:59:52
From: Michael V
ID: 2421611
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Is the wealth trickling down yet?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ie-xgmoXe_o

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Date: 18/08/2026 15:03:04
From: Michael V
ID: 2421613
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


She’s as dumb as a box of rocks (with apologies to the V’s) but this is quite concerning.
And yet another distraction from the Epstein files.

!!!

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Date: 18/08/2026 16:48:02
From: ms spock
ID: 2421637
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

She’s as dumb as a box of rocks (with apologies to the V’s) but this is quite concerning.
And yet another distraction from the Epstein files.

!!!

Some contenders for the next “President” of America are Marjorie Taylor Green, Tucker Carlson
, Nick Fuentes or if Thiel splurges billions Vance. What is coming is not happy making.

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Date: 18/08/2026 17:12:05
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2421676
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Protesters dressed as Gandalf protest against Palantir.

https://www.reddit.com/r/lotrmemes/comments/1vrbv2e/protesters_dressed_as_gandalf_protest_against/

More Gandalf’s are better than fewer Gandalf’s.

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Date: 18/08/2026 17:17:44
From: Cymek
ID: 2421681
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Protesters dressed as Gandalf protest against Palantir.

https://www.reddit.com/r/lotrmemes/comments/1vrbv2e/protesters_dressed_as_gandalf_protest_against/

More Gandalf’s are better than fewer Gandalf’s.

It’s interesting how the Palantir has a double meaning.
Seeing stone but it corrupted its users

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Date: 18/08/2026 17:22:04
From: kii
ID: 2421686
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

MAHAspital -The New Pitt

😆 🤣
Featuring The Bear and RFKJr

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Date: 18/08/2026 17:34:25
From: buffy
ID: 2421690
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


MAHAspital -The New Pitt

😆 🤣
Featuring The Bear and RFKJr

Thanks, I enjoyed that. Of course, then I had to go back and watch Homeopathic A&E again.

Link

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Date: 18/08/2026 17:39:35
From: kii
ID: 2421694
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


kii said:

MAHAspital -The New Pitt

😆 🤣
Featuring The Bear and RFKJr

Thanks, I enjoyed that. Of course, then I had to go back and watch Homeopathic A&E again.

Link

😹🤣

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Date: 19/08/2026 06:40:19
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2421758
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

US states accuse Meta of covering up research on teen social media addiction in pivotal trial

Lawyers representing 29 US states have accused Meta of covering up internal research showing Instagram was addictive for teenagers. In a packed courtroom on the opening day of a landmark legal challenge, they said the company knew its products harmed children but hid that information from the public.

More…

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Date: 19/08/2026 07:00:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2421759
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

BBC article

US states call for big changes to Instagram and Facebook as Meta child privacy trial begins

Meta has been hit with successive losses in court over how its platforms have targeted and harmed young users, but a jury trial set to begin on Tuesday may pose the biggest threat yet to its operations.

More…

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Date: 19/08/2026 09:37:52
From: dv
ID: 2421782
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 19/08/2026 09:47:00
From: Michael V
ID: 2421788
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



!!!

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Date: 19/08/2026 12:20:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2421845
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

dv said:


!!!

can’t they just make the hulls out of gold

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Date: 19/08/2026 12:25:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2421849
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

dv said:


!!!

can’t they just make the hulls out of gold

The USN will just faff about for a while, produce some ‘concept art’ to mollify Trump, and wait until he’s either dead or booted out of office.

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Date: 19/08/2026 12:34:13
From: Cymek
ID: 2421855
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

dv said:


!!!

can’t they just make the hulls out of gold

If we found gold in a amount that made it far less monetary valuable I wonder if it would be used

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Date: 19/08/2026 12:35:32
From: Michael V
ID: 2421856
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

dv said:


!!!

can’t they just make the hulls out of gold

Or paint the bridges gold?

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Date: 19/08/2026 12:35:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2421857
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

!!!

can’t they just make the hulls out of gold

If we found gold in a amount that made it far less monetary valuable I wonder if it would be used

fine then make it out of pyrite

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Date: 19/08/2026 12:37:33
From: Michael V
ID: 2421860
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

!!!

can’t they just make the hulls out of gold

The USN will just faff about for a while, produce some ‘concept art’ to mollify Trump, and wait until he’s either dead or booted out of office.

Let’s hope so.

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Date: 19/08/2026 12:38:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2421861
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

!!!

can’t they just make the hulls out of gold

The USN will just faff about for a while, produce some ‘concept art’ to mollify Trump, and wait until he’s either dead or booted out of office.

gold plated warships for the win

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Date: 19/08/2026 12:39:59
From: Michael V
ID: 2421862
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

!!!

can’t they just make the hulls out of gold

If we found gold in a amount that made it far less monetary valuable I wonder if it would be used

Not for boat hulls. It is way, way too malleable.

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Date: 19/08/2026 12:40:57
From: Michael V
ID: 2421863
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

can’t they just make the hulls out of gold

If we found gold in a amount that made it far less monetary valuable I wonder if it would be used

fine then make it out of pyrite

That really would be fooling around, wouldn’t it.

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Date: 19/08/2026 12:53:36
From: kii
ID: 2421872
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

!!!

can’t they just make the hulls out of gold

The USN will just faff about for a while, produce some ‘concept art’ to mollify Trump, and wait until he’s either dead or booted out of office.

He’ll get distracted by something else soon.

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Date: 19/08/2026 12:59:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2421874
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

can’t they just make the hulls out of gold

The USN will just faff about for a while, produce some ‘concept art’ to mollify Trump, and wait until he’s either dead or booted out of office.

He’ll get distracted by something else soon.

how’s ol’ mate Epstein and the philes then

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Date: 19/08/2026 13:22:49
From: Michael V
ID: 2421884
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

captain_spalding said:

The USN will just faff about for a while, produce some ‘concept art’ to mollify Trump, and wait until he’s either dead or booted out of office.

He’ll get distracted by something else soon.

how’s ol’ mate Epstein and the philes then

Not underfoot.

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Date: 19/08/2026 16:43:56
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2421942
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

It’s ‘leopards eating my face’ time yet again.
I wonder if they’ll be happy with the number of people they’ll murder.

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Date: 19/08/2026 17:09:59
From: Michael V
ID: 2421959
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


It’s ‘leopards eating my face’ time yet again.
I wonder if they’ll be happy with the number of people they’ll murder.

Isn’t that one from Trump’s first term?

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Date: 19/08/2026 17:14:59
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2421968
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

It’s ‘leopards eating my face’ time yet again.
I wonder if they’ll be happy with the number of people they’ll murder.

Isn’t that one from Trump’s first term?

Not sure, but either way it’s still valid.

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Date: 19/08/2026 18:08:42
From: dv
ID: 2421986
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/18/politics/natalie-harp-trump-aide

Meet Natalie Harp, the aide so close to Trump she once rode in an SUV trunk to accompany him
—-

What

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Date: 19/08/2026 18:12:33
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2421987
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/18/politics/natalie-harp-trump-aide

Meet Natalie Harp, the aide so close to Trump she once rode in an SUV trunk to accompany him
—-

What

Is she the new diaper changer and butt wiper

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Date: 19/08/2026 18:30:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2421988
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/18/politics/natalie-harp-trump-aide

Meet Natalie Harp, the aide so close to Trump she once rode in an SUV trunk to accompany him
———

What

Is she the new diaper changer and butt wiper

kind of like hiding in the catering box right

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Date: 19/08/2026 19:30:05
From: dv
ID: 2421989
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/18/politics/natalie-harp-trump-aide

Meet Natalie Harp, the aide so close to Trump she once rode in an SUV trunk to accompany him
———

What

Is she the new diaper changer and butt wiper

kind of like hiding in the catering box right

Maybe they are bonding over their agoraphobia

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Date: 19/08/2026 19:37:48
From: kii
ID: 2421993
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


dv said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/18/politics/natalie-harp-trump-aide

Meet Natalie Harp, the aide so close to Trump she once rode in an SUV trunk to accompany him
—-

What

Is she the new diaper changer and butt wiper

Not new.
Also known as The Human Printer.

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Date: 20/08/2026 01:32:27
From: dv
ID: 2422040
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://youtu.be/_2rokxux5cU?si=HC_HyERbOsVlNzkL
LegalEagles
The use of duress passwords

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Date: 20/08/2026 07:15:59
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2422048
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://youtu.be/_2rokxux5cU?si=HC_HyERbOsVlNzkL
LegalEagles
The use of duress passwords

I too have a Pixel phone running Graphene OS. I haven’t set a duress password though.
I have thought about it but the penalty for wiping the phone here in Aus is rather severe so I’m unlikely to create such a password. I have thought about it and I have considered creating one and if asked I’d write it down for them along with the regular unlock password, and tell them it’s their choice which one they pick and what happens if they pick the wrong one.
So if they do wipe the phone they knew that was going to happen and the chose to make it happen.
But I reckon I won’t do that, I am not on the government’s radar so pretty much nothing to worry about.

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Date: 20/08/2026 07:23:54
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2422049
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


dv said:

https://youtu.be/_2rokxux5cU?si=HC_HyERbOsVlNzkL
LegalEagles
The use of duress passwords

I too have a Pixel phone running Graphene OS. I haven’t set a duress password though.
I have thought about it but the penalty for wiping the phone here in Aus is rather severe so I’m unlikely to create such a password. I have thought about it and I have considered creating one and if asked I’d write it down for them along with the regular unlock password, and tell them it’s their choice which one they pick and what happens if they pick the wrong one.
So if they do wipe the phone they knew that was going to happen and the chose to make it happen.
But I reckon I won’t do that, I am not on the government’s radar so pretty much nothing to worry about.

You’re assuming the thieves are using some sort of logic where there’s a consequence for their actions.

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Date: 20/08/2026 10:14:34
From: dv
ID: 2422086
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

If I did for some reason have to go to the US I’d just use a burner phone.

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Date: 20/08/2026 10:16:53
From: Cymek
ID: 2422088
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


If I did for some reason have to go to the US I’d just use a burner phone.

Would make sense, cheap one from Coles
Create a quick profile somewhere as it would perhaps look more suspicious with no social media

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Date: 20/08/2026 10:18:03
From: dv
ID: 2422090
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


dv said:

If I did for some reason have to go to the US I’d just use a burner phone.

Would make sense, cheap one from Coles
Create a quick profile somewhere as it would perhaps look more suspicious with no social media

I mean it’s not illegal to have no social media. I think diddly squat is in that category.

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Date: 20/08/2026 10:20:01
From: Cymek
ID: 2422092
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

If I did for some reason have to go to the US I’d just use a burner phone.

Would make sense, cheap one from Coles
Create a quick profile somewhere as it would perhaps look more suspicious with no social media

I mean it’s not illegal to have no social media. I think diddly squat is in that category.

True

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Date: 20/08/2026 10:25:40
From: Cymek
ID: 2422095
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


dv said:

Cymek said:

Would make sense, cheap one from Coles
Create a quick profile somewhere as it would perhaps look more suspicious with no social media

I mean it’s not illegal to have no social media. I think diddly squat is in that category.

True

Mine is mainly call out Trump supporters so wouldn’t go down well
You could have satire I suppose regarding Trump as they might not understand it.
“Ah, Donald Trump. He was just poured into that uniform”.

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Date: 20/08/2026 10:58:14
From: Michael V
ID: 2422107
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


If I did for some reason have to go to the US I’d just use a burner phone.

Where do you get a burner phone in Australia?

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Date: 20/08/2026 10:59:30
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2422108
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


dv said:

If I did for some reason have to go to the US I’d just use a burner phone.

Where do you get a burner phone in Australia?

All you need is a cheap one, just get one from from the post office.

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:00:47
From: Michael V
ID: 2422109
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

If I did for some reason have to go to the US I’d just use a burner phone.

Would make sense, cheap one from Coles
Create a quick profile somewhere as it would perhaps look more suspicious with no social media

I mean it’s not illegal to have no social media. I think diddly squat is in that category.

This (Holiday Forum) is the only social media I have, and my phone is not normally connected to the internet. Occasionally it is used as a modem when I travel within Australia, and I connected it once for an operating system update.

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:03:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2422114
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

If I did for some reason have to go to the US I’d just use a burner phone.

Where do you get a burner phone in Australia?

All you need is a cheap one, just get one from from the post office.

and device aside when they search for yous on social media by name what then

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:06:13
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2422115
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Where do you get a burner phone in Australia?

All you need is a cheap one, just get one from from the post office.

and device aside when they search for yous on social media by name what then

As noted, it’s not illegal not to have social media, but it is a bit unusual not to have any. If you’ve got a smartphone just install tiktok and say you watch puppy videos.

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:06:15
From: Michael V
ID: 2422116
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

If I did for some reason have to go to the US I’d just use a burner phone.

Where do you get a burner phone in Australia?

All you need is a cheap one, just get one from from the post office.

My point is that a “burner phone” is one that is unregistered but can still be used. That’s not possible in Australia, AFAIK.

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:07:58
From: Michael V
ID: 2422117
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

If I did for some reason have to go to the US I’d just use a burner phone.

Where do you get a burner phone in Australia?

All you need is a cheap one, just get one from from the post office.

My first mobile was from the Post Office. Since then all have been from Woolworths. Woolies phones are cheap, cheap, cheap.

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:08:45
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2422118
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Where do you get a burner phone in Australia?

All you need is a cheap one, just get one from from the post office.

My point is that a “burner phone” is one that is unregistered but can still be used. That’s not possible in Australia, AFAIK.

You don’t need to register anything to use a prepaid SIM. Pay in cash at provider of your choice and off you go. it’s not even something you need to search the dark web or meet people in dark alleys for.

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:10:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2422120
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

All you need is a cheap one, just get one from from the post office.

My point is that a “burner phone” is one that is unregistered but can still be used. That’s not possible in Australia, AFAIK.

You don’t need to register anything to use a prepaid SIM. Pay in cash at provider of your choice and off you go. it’s not even something you need to search the dark web or meet people in dark alleys for.

Damn.

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:11:30
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2422121
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

But if you want to meet people in dark alleys for different purposes, I’m not going to judge

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:12:47
From: kii
ID: 2422124
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Where do you get a burner phone in Australia?

All you need is a cheap one, just get one from from the post office.

and device aside when they search for yous on social media by name what then

Yes, this is the thing to be worried about.

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:14:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2422125
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

All you need is a cheap one, just get one from from the post office.

My point is that a “burner phone” is one that is unregistered but can still be used. That’s not possible in Australia, AFAIK.

You don’t need to register anything to use a prepaid SIM. Pay in cash at provider of your choice and off you go. it’s not even something you need to search the dark web or meet people in dark alleys for.

I have always had a pre-paid SIMs. (Pre-paid is cheaper than plans, mostly.) The SIM has to be registered at that provider before it can be used, or so I’ve found.

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:15:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2422126
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

All you need is a cheap one, just get one from from the post office.

and device aside when they search for yous on social media by name what then

Yes, this is the thing to be worried about.

nah we don’t plan on visiting fascist america anytime soon

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:17:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2422128
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

My point is that a “burner phone” is one that is unregistered but can still be used. That’s not possible in Australia, AFAIK.

You don’t need to register anything to use a prepaid SIM. Pay in cash at provider of your choice and off you go. it’s not even something you need to search the dark web or meet people in dark alleys for.

I have always had a pre-paid SIMs. (Pre-paid is cheaper than plans, mostly.) The SIM has to be registered at that provider before it can be used, or so I’ve found.

perhaps they refer to only the device enclosing the SIM as the “burner” in this instance, to imply “limited time use, disposable” without necessarily including all the associated conceptualisations

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:20:57
From: furious
ID: 2422130
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

SCIENCE said:

and device aside when they search for yous on social media by name what then

Yes, this is the thing to be worried about.

nah we don’t plan on visiting fascist america anytime soon

Would they be suspicious if they found no social media presence? I have none, no need for it, but will they believe that? Or think I have something to hide? Maybe my passport is fake…

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:27:05
From: kii
ID: 2422131
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

SCIENCE said:

and device aside when they search for yous on social media by name what then

Yes, this is the thing to be worried about.

nah we don’t plan on visiting fascist america anytime soon

This is best. Hopefully the Grand Canyon survives this regime.

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Date: 20/08/2026 11:51:04
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2422139
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

furious said:


SCIENCE said:

kii said:

Yes, this is the thing to be worried about.

nah we don’t plan on visiting fascist america anytime soon

Would they be suspicious if they found no social media presence? I have none, no need for it, but will they believe that? Or think I have something to hide? Maybe my passport is fake…

Apart from here I have no internet presence.
And the world is more the poorer.

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Date: 20/08/2026 12:11:26
From: kii
ID: 2422141
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

“FIRST REPUBLICAN DEBATE HIGHLIGHTS: 2015” — A Bad Lip Reading of The Republican Debate

Featuring – Rubio, Cruz, Rand, Trump, Carson, Huckabee and others. Seriously lololol.

Link

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Date: 20/08/2026 12:18:40
From: Michael V
ID: 2422143
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

You don’t need to register anything to use a prepaid SIM. Pay in cash at provider of your choice and off you go. it’s not even something you need to search the dark web or meet people in dark alleys for.

I have always had a pre-paid SIMs. (Pre-paid is cheaper than plans, mostly.) The SIM has to be registered at that provider before it can be used, or so I’ve found.

perhaps they refer to only the device enclosing the SIM as the “burner” in this instance, to imply “limited time use, disposable” without necessarily including all the associated conceptualisations

Probably, but that’s not the normal use as I understand it.

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Date: 20/08/2026 13:05:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2422154
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

I have always had a pre-paid SIMs. (Pre-paid is cheaper than plans, mostly.) The SIM has to be registered at that provider before it can be used, or so I’ve found.

perhaps they refer to only the device enclosing the SIM as the “burner” in this instance, to imply “limited time use, disposable” without necessarily including all the associated conceptualisations

Probably, but that’s not the normal use as I understand it.

fair shrug language evolves so anyway we would have thought ghost was a better description for an untraceable and burner was fine for disposable but we’r‘n’t the prescriptivist language police

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Date: 20/08/2026 13:38:07
From: Michael V
ID: 2422158
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Lucas Bean.
Why You Can’t Get Through to a Trump Supporter
Link

This is an excellent explanation, imho.

Your post has been sitting open to prompt me to watch this for the last 10 days. Thanks for posting.

:)

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Date: 20/08/2026 13:45:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2422160
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

Lucas Bean.
Why You Can’t Get Through to a Trump Supporter
Link

This is an excellent explanation, imho.

Your post has been sitting open to prompt me to watch this for the last 10 days. Thanks for posting.

:)

what are the reasons

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Date: 20/08/2026 14:43:19
From: ms spock
ID: 2422166
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

Lucas Bean.
Why You Can’t Get Through to a Trump Supporter
Link

This is an excellent explanation, imho.

Your post has been sitting open to prompt me to watch this for the last 10 days. Thanks for posting.

:)

It is a good one isn’t Mr V?

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Date: 20/08/2026 14:45:31
From: ms spock
ID: 2422167
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

You don’t need to register anything to use a prepaid SIM. Pay in cash at provider of your choice and off you go. it’s not even something you need to search the dark web or meet people in dark alleys for.

I have always had a pre-paid SIMs. (Pre-paid is cheaper than plans, mostly.) The SIM has to be registered at that provider before it can be used, or so I’ve found.

perhaps they refer to only the device enclosing the SIM as the “burner” in this instance, to imply “limited time use, disposable” without necessarily including all the associated conceptualisations

It means everyone’s privacy is non existent now.

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Date: 20/08/2026 15:21:14
From: Michael V
ID: 2422174
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

kii said:

Lucas Bean.
Why You Can’t Get Through to a Trump Supporter
Link

This is an excellent explanation, imho.

Your post has been sitting open to prompt me to watch this for the last 10 days. Thanks for posting.

:)

what are the reasons

I thought it was interesting. But I can’t provide a precis. You may have to watch for yourself.

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Date: 20/08/2026 16:48:54
From: ms spock
ID: 2422210
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


furious said:

SCIENCE said:

nah we don’t plan on visiting fascist america anytime soon

Would they be suspicious if they found no social media presence? I have none, no need for it, but will they believe that? Or think I have something to hide? Maybe my passport is fake…

Apart from here I have no internet presence.
And the world is more the poorer.

Harsh but true

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Date: 21/08/2026 08:38:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2422336
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

LOL sure sure which is exactly why they deserve to keep getting free passes nice one

America’s annual interest bill on its debt now totals just shy of $US1 trillion, which is more than the US defence budget and the third-biggest budget expense after social security and Medicare. That’s why Donald Trump is desperate to lower interest rates. “I worry that Trump is trashing America’s standing and slowly eroding the US dollar and Treasury bonds as a safe haven for investors,” Eslake says. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that within the next eight years, America’s debt to GDP ratio will blow out to 137 per cent. When asked how he sees all this ending, Eslake’s reply is succinct. “Badly,” he says.

unbelievable

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Date: 21/08/2026 08:40:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 2422339
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

LOL sure sure which is exactly why they deserve to keep getting free passes nice one

America’s annual interest bill on its debt now totals just shy of $US1 trillion, which is more than the US defence budget and the third-biggest budget expense after social security and Medicare. That’s why Donald Trump is desperate to lower interest rates. “I worry that Trump is trashing America’s standing and slowly eroding the US dollar and Treasury bonds as a safe haven for investors,” Eslake says. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that within the next eight years, America’s debt to GDP ratio will blow out to 137 per cent. When asked how he sees all this ending, Eslake’s reply is succinct. “Badly,” he says.

unbelievable

Unfortunately true.

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Date: 21/08/2026 11:48:05
From: kii
ID: 2422415
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

From 2017:

Alt National Park Service

“In less than one week, Interior Sec. Ryan Zinke will submit his final recommendations to President Trump on whether 27 national monuments around the country should be downsized, eliminated, transferred to state control or left alone. Rather than spending his final week hearing from local communities who have worked tirelessly to protect their natural and cultural heritage as national monuments, Secretary Zinke is on vacation in the Mediterranean.”

Recent events: the Trump administration has started ripping up Big Bend National Park for border infrastructure. Link

Also: Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments are being targeted, again. Link

Plus Chaco Canyon is at risk. Link

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Date: 21/08/2026 11:54:30
From: Cymek
ID: 2422419
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


From 2017:

Alt National Park Service

“In less than one week, Interior Sec. Ryan Zinke will submit his final recommendations to President Trump on whether 27 national monuments around the country should be downsized, eliminated, transferred to state control or left alone. Rather than spending his final week hearing from local communities who have worked tirelessly to protect their natural and cultural heritage as national monuments, Secretary Zinke is on vacation in the Mediterranean.”

Recent events: the Trump administration has started ripping up Big Bend National Park for border infrastructure. Link

Also: Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments are being targeted, again. Link

Plus Chaco Canyon is at risk. Link

So wrecking unique nature that is part of the USA

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Date: 21/08/2026 11:57:38
From: kii
ID: 2422422
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


kii said:

From 2017:

Alt National Park Service

“In less than one week, Interior Sec. Ryan Zinke will submit his final recommendations to President Trump on whether 27 national monuments around the country should be downsized, eliminated, transferred to state control or left alone. Rather than spending his final week hearing from local communities who have worked tirelessly to protect their natural and cultural heritage as national monuments, Secretary Zinke is on vacation in the Mediterranean.”

Recent events: the Trump administration has started ripping up Big Bend National Park for border infrastructure. Link

Also: Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments are being targeted, again. Link

Plus Chaco Canyon is at risk. Link

So wrecking unique nature that is part of the USA

Money.

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Date: 21/08/2026 11:58:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 2422424
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Cymek said:

kii said:

From 2017:

Alt National Park Service

“In less than one week, Interior Sec. Ryan Zinke will submit his final recommendations to President Trump on whether 27 national monuments around the country should be downsized, eliminated, transferred to state control or left alone. Rather than spending his final week hearing from local communities who have worked tirelessly to protect their natural and cultural heritage as national monuments, Secretary Zinke is on vacation in the Mediterranean.”

Recent events: the Trump administration has started ripping up Big Bend National Park for border infrastructure. Link

Also: Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments are being targeted, again. Link

Plus Chaco Canyon is at risk. Link

So wrecking unique nature that is part of the USA

Money.

Dig it up quick, Drill baby Drill.

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Date: 21/08/2026 12:06:51
From: Cymek
ID: 2422428
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Cymek said:

kii said:

From 2017:

Alt National Park Service

“In less than one week, Interior Sec. Ryan Zinke will submit his final recommendations to President Trump on whether 27 national monuments around the country should be downsized, eliminated, transferred to state control or left alone. Rather than spending his final week hearing from local communities who have worked tirelessly to protect their natural and cultural heritage as national monuments, Secretary Zinke is on vacation in the Mediterranean.”

Recent events: the Trump administration has started ripping up Big Bend National Park for border infrastructure. Link

Also: Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments are being targeted, again. Link

Plus Chaco Canyon is at risk. Link

So wrecking unique nature that is part of the USA

Money.

I know I’m weird with my opinion on money but pursuing it at expense of everything else is so wrong

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Date: 21/08/2026 12:13:22
From: ms spock
ID: 2422433
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


kii said:

Cymek said:

So wrecking unique nature that is part of the USA

Money.

I know I’m weird with my opinion on money but pursuing it at expense of everything else is so wrong

I don’t think you are weird at all. It is insane to pursue money at the expense of everything else. It is so wrong. It’s destroying people and our planet.

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Date: 21/08/2026 12:14:25
From: kii
ID: 2422434
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Cymek said:

kii said:

Money.

I know I’m weird with my opinion on money but pursuing it at expense of everything else is so wrong

I don’t think you are weird at all. It is insane to pursue money at the expense of everything else. It is so wrong. It’s destroying people and our planet.

Yeppers, Cymek is not weird regarding this.

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Date: 21/08/2026 12:26:45
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2422445
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


kii said:

Cymek said:

So wrecking unique nature that is part of the USA

Money.

I know I’m weird with my opinion on money but pursuing it at expense of everything else is so wrong

You’re not weird. It’s just that there a great many people who value it more than you who don’t have the social conscience shared by most of us here on our little forum.

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Date: 21/08/2026 12:30:40
From: Cymek
ID: 2422449
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Cymek said:

kii said:

Money.

I know I’m weird with my opinion on money but pursuing it at expense of everything else is so wrong

You’re not weird. It’s just that there a great many people who value it more than you who don’t have the social conscience shared by most of us here on our little forum.

I don’t mean it arrogantly
More that if humanity wrecks our beautiful planet for money.
I can imagine in the greater universe it could be considered a capital crime.
It’s happening so quickly as well

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Date: 21/08/2026 12:49:16
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2422460
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Cymek said:

I know I’m weird with my opinion on money but pursuing it at expense of everything else is so wrong

You’re not weird. It’s just that there a great many people who value it more than you who don’t have the social conscience shared by most of us here on our little forum.

I don’t mean it arrogantly
More that if humanity wrecks our beautiful planet for money.
I can imagine in the greater universe it could be considered a capital crime.
It’s happening so quickly as well


It all goes in cycles. The ‘greed is good’ mentality of the eighties faded away but with the richest person on the planet saying ‘the fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy,” we are once again at the nadir of moral depravity.’

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Date: 21/08/2026 12:57:18
From: ms spock
ID: 2422469
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Cymek said:

I know I’m weird with my opinion on money but pursuing it at expense of everything else is so wrong

You’re not weird. It’s just that there a great many people who value it more than you who don’t have the social conscience shared by most of us here on our little forum.

I don’t mean it arrogantly
More that if humanity wrecks our beautiful planet for money.
I can imagine in the greater universe it could be considered a capital crime.
It’s happening so quickly as well

Way too fast. The water is being stolen from Mount Tambourine despite local resistance. It should be treasonous to steal water.

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Date: 21/08/2026 13:14:15
From: ms spock
ID: 2422479
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You’re not weird. It’s just that there a great many people who value it more than you who don’t have the social conscience shared by most of us here on our little forum.

I don’t mean it arrogantly
More that if humanity wrecks our beautiful planet for money.
I can imagine in the greater universe it could be considered a capital crime.
It’s happening so quickly as well


It all goes in cycles. The ‘greed is good’ mentality of the eighties faded away but with the richest person on the planet saying ‘the fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy,” we are once again at the nadir of moral depravity.’

I am concerned this level of moral depravity could destroy our lives and our planet.

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Date: 21/08/2026 13:57:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2422502
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Cymek said:

kii said:

From 2017:

Alt National Park Service

“In less than one week, Interior Sec. Ryan Zinke will submit his final recommendations to President Trump on whether 27 national monuments around the country should be downsized, eliminated, transferred to state control or left alone. Rather than spending his final week hearing from local communities who have worked tirelessly to protect their natural and cultural heritage as national monuments, Secretary Zinke is on vacation in the Mediterranean.”

Recent events: the Trump administration has started ripping up Big Bend National Park for border infrastructure. Link

Also: Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments are being targeted, again. Link

Plus Chaco Canyon is at risk. Link

So wrecking unique nature that is part of the USA

Money.

loving how border walls are beautiful but wind farms are the worst

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Date: 21/08/2026 14:17:22
From: Cymek
ID: 2422510
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


kii said:

Cymek said:

So wrecking unique nature that is part of the USA

Money.

loving how border walls are beautiful but wind farms are the worst

They are quite peaceful wind farms and could perhaps be turned into an artform if you painted the blades (unsure if that could affect the spin stability)

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Date: 21/08/2026 14:27:06
From: furious
ID: 2422511
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

kii said:

Money.

loving how border walls are beautiful but wind farms are the worst

They are quite peaceful wind farms and could perhaps be turned into an artform if you painted the blades (unsure if that could affect the spin stability)

Incorporate wind turbines into the wall, fast spinning blades ought to discourage a few people from crossing through it….

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Date: 21/08/2026 14:35:06
From: party_pants
ID: 2422512
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

furious said:


Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

loving how border walls are beautiful but wind farms are the worst

They are quite peaceful wind farms and could perhaps be turned into an artform if you painted the blades (unsure if that could affect the spin stability)

Incorporate wind turbines into the wall, fast spinning blades ought to discourage a few people from crossing through it….

Wind turbines have to be up high to catch a steady breeze.

Maybe if you told them the electricity from the wind turbines powers the electric fence?

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Date: 21/08/2026 14:46:55
From: Boris
ID: 2422513
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

kii said:

Money.

loving how border walls are beautiful but wind farms are the worst

They are quite peaceful wind farms and could perhaps be turned into an artform if you painted the blades (unsure if that could affect the spin stability)

Paint a spiral on the blades.

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Date: 21/08/2026 19:03:24
From: dv
ID: 2422588
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 22/08/2026 01:15:50
From: dv
ID: 2422657
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 22/08/2026 01:18:16
From: Kingy
ID: 2422658
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyahoga_River

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Date: 22/08/2026 10:30:18
From: ms spock
ID: 2422716
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Miracle in America.

A woman with a disability no longer is disabled.

Trump and Kennedy just keep it coming.

Link

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Date: 22/08/2026 15:02:15
From: kii
ID: 2422767
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Main and Vine…surveillance etc.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcKOI98COts/?igsi=dmV5NTRmcG55Zm9j

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Date: 22/08/2026 15:34:55
From: ms spock
ID: 2422788
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Main and Vine…surveillance etc.

Link

I hadn’t seen her before. Ta

Have you seen all the videos for Halloween Night and the DIY removal of Flock cameras? They are practical and entertaining as well. Of course they are not encouraging any one to do anything.

Thank God that you don’t live there anymore.

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Date: 22/08/2026 19:04:02
From: dv
ID: 2422879
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Great again

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Date: 22/08/2026 22:02:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2422912
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 22/08/2026 22:12:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2422913
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged


I’m sure you’ll all be glad to know that China has scraped ahead of USA and now has the largest prison population in the world.

According to the bingbot.

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Date: 23/08/2026 04:39:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2422961
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged


I’m sure you’ll all be glad to know that China has scraped ahead of USA and now has the largest prison population in the world.

According to the bingbot.

damn it we’re falling behind here in Australia again

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Date: 23/08/2026 10:12:00
From: Ian
ID: 2423015
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 23/08/2026 20:23:44
From: dv
ID: 2423210
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 23/08/2026 20:50:10
From: dv
ID: 2423212
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 24/08/2026 09:59:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2423280
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

weird how easy it is to spell “matured” isn’t it

Last week the former editor, and now editor at large of the Wall Street Journal, Gerard Baker, a man not known for being left-wing or anti-corporate, wrote an op-ed that contained this long and surprising (for him) sentence: “The widespread popular dissatisfaction with the working of modern American capitalism may be the product of some real, objective problems in the way American capitalism is working: income and wealth inequality on a scale not seen in a century; the concentration of economic, cultural and increasingly political power in a class of technology leaders whose products are dissolving the bonds that keep society together; the tightening nexus between business elites and the people who control the political process; rampant corruption and a political establishment that doesn’t seem interested in accountability; the revival, after decades of stable prices, of inflationary pressures that are pushing the cost of living to painful levels.” He added: “Most of the causes of America’s economic dysfunction are the result of a capitalism that has mutated into a system run by and for large corporate interests.”

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Date: 24/08/2026 11:00:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2423304
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

it’s good to be neighbours and friendly with allies

allegedly

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Date: 24/08/2026 11:16:48
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2423306
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Not quite as popular as he thinks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/antitrump/comments/1vwj06f/hecklers_call_trump_a_traitor/

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Date: 24/08/2026 11:30:51
From: Michael V
ID: 2423310
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

it’s good to be neighbours and friendly with allies

allegedly

No wonder Canada said no.

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Date: 24/08/2026 11:31:20
From: Cymek
ID: 2423311
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

it’s good to be neighbours and friendly with allies

allegedly

Can see nations almost going against their own interests just to spite Trump.
What if everyone decides to boycott USA made products
Alcohol for example plenty of alternatives

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Date: 24/08/2026 11:33:36
From: Michael V
ID: 2423313
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Not quite as popular as he thinks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/antitrump/comments/1vwj06f/hecklers_call_trump_a_traitor/

“AI assisted”

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Date: 24/08/2026 11:37:01
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2423315
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

Not quite as popular as he thinks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/antitrump/comments/1vwj06f/hecklers_call_trump_a_traitor/

“AI assisted”


Oh you spoilsport!

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Date: 24/08/2026 11:39:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2423319
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

it’s good to be neighbours and friendly with allies

allegedly

No wonder Canada said no.

Can see nations almost going against their own interests just to spite Trump.
What if everyone decides to boycott USA made products
Alcohol for example plenty of alternatives

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Date: 24/08/2026 11:39:26
From: Michael V
ID: 2423320
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Not quite as popular as he thinks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/antitrump/comments/1vwj06f/hecklers_call_trump_a_traitor/

“AI assisted”


Oh you spoilsport!

Sorry.

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Date: 24/08/2026 11:45:40
From: buffy
ID: 2423325
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

it’s good to be neighbours and friendly with allies

allegedly

No wonder Canada said no.

Here is another contribution from my Houston sister. A Canadian explaining in terms of ice hockey. This guy is good.

Link

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Date: 24/08/2026 11:50:19
From: kii
ID: 2423326
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 24/08/2026 11:55:49
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2423327
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:



Oh you’re far too kind.

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Date: 24/08/2026 12:01:31
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2423329
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Leopards dining on faces time yet again.

Same kid who made $3,000 off spacex stock and called SpaceXbets Members pussies loses his greencard for calling for deportations of 60,000,000 People.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXBets/comments/1vw9cmy/same_kid_who_made_3000_off_spacex_stock_and/

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Date: 24/08/2026 12:11:35
From: dv
ID: 2423331
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Every week or so an outlet will run a headline like “Trump sinks to lowest approval ever”, based on one poll.

I suppose it is kind of noteworthy when these things happen but the polling averages are more valuable. He is still at around 38% approval.

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Date: 24/08/2026 12:18:42
From: Cymek
ID: 2423334
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Every week or so an outlet will run a headline like “Trump sinks to lowest approval ever”, based on one poll.

I suppose it is kind of noteworthy when these things happen but the polling averages are more valuable. He is still at around 38% approval.

Interesting to note that 38% is also the percentage of inbreed hillbillies in the USA, sister wives and brother husbands

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Date: 24/08/2026 13:18:41
From: kii
ID: 2423361
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 24/08/2026 13:23:51
From: Michael V
ID: 2423363
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

it’s good to be neighbours and friendly with allies

allegedly

No wonder Canada said no.

Here is another contribution from my Houston sister. A Canadian explaining in terms of ice hockey. This guy is good.

Link

Nice one, thanks. I’ve seen him before, and I respect his analyses.

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Date: 24/08/2026 21:47:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2423496
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

it’s good to be neighbours and friendly with allies

allegedly

No wonder Canada said no.

Here is another contribution from my Houston sister. A Canadian explaining in terms of ice hockey. This guy is good.

Link

Nice one, thanks. I’ve seen him before, and I respect his analyses.

alleged

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Date: 25/08/2026 08:33:02
From: Boris
ID: 2423562
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Oregon’s Bay Area is feeling worried.

Good morning! There is a famous exchange in Ernest Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises in which one character asks another how he went bankrupt.

“Two ways. Gradually and then suddenly.”

That line came up in one of the climate interviews I was watching this weekend, and it has been rattling around in my head ever since because it turns out to be a pretty good description of how complicated systems fail.

They usually don’t wake up one Tuesday morning, stretch, yawn and announce that they have decided to collapse.
They try to compensate and adapt, borrow from reserves, and continue to look surprisingly normal. Then something that would once have been manageable arrives after enough resilience has already been consumed.

Suddenly.

Saturday, the average surface temperature of the world’s oceans reached 21.1 degrees Celsius, or about 70 degrees Fahrenheit, the highest daily temperature ever measured. The previous record was 21.09 degrees, reached repeatedly during the 2024 El Niño. The measurements cover the oceans between 60 degrees north and 60 degrees south and are compiled from satellites, ships and buoys by the Copernicus Climate Change Service. Daily records go back to 1979; monthly observations extend much further.

One one-hundredth of a degree does not sound like much until you remember we are averaging most of the ocean on Earth.

We are not talking about a statistical fluke, by the way. July had already produced the highest average sea-surface temperature ever recorded for that month, and throughout much of the summer the extra-polar ocean has been setting records for the respective day of the year. Copernicus says the developing El Niño is adding heat on top of an ocean that has already spent the past several years running dramatically warmer than its long-term average.

Which brings us to the phrase “global warming,” a term that has always made what is happening sound vaguely pleasant, like somebody adjusted the thermostat because Grandma was chilly.

The ocean has absorbed more than 90 percent of the excess heat trapped by human-generated greenhouse gases. It is the largest heat sink in the climate system, quietly protecting us from experiencing even more warming in the atmosphere.

Except a heat sink does not make heat disappear, it stores it. The heat sink is getting hot.

The ocean is not a decorative blue border around the continents. Warmer seawater expands. Ice melts into it. Marine ecosystems live in it. Storms draw heat and moisture from it. Atmospheric circulation interacts with it. Rainfall patterns depend upon temperature differences between oceans and continents.

The ocean has been doing an enormous amount of load-bearing work for us while we mostly treated it as background scenery.

Professor Benjamin Horton, dean of the School of Energy and Environment at City University of Hong Kong, made another point this weekend that I think gets closer to the problem than most discussions about “adapting to climate change.”

We frequently talk about adaptation as though the climate were moving from one stable setting to another. Build higher seawalls, install more air conditioning, enlarge the culverts, move the flood maps, plant different crops and then carry on.

Horton’s deliberately provocative formulation is that adapting to the climate of 2026 is “pointless” if we mean adapting once and declaring victory, because the climate of 2027, 2028 and 2029 will continue changing unless we stop adding greenhouse gases.

Adaptation itself is obviously not pointless. Horton spends considerable time explaining how urgently we need it.

The moving baseline is the problem. You cannot build resilience around yesterday’s definition of normal when normal itself is moving.

Nature is not satisfied with simply changing the temperature. It may be moving some of the rain, too.

A recent Nature Communications study examined decades of observations of tropical rainfall and found persistent changes in the position and distribution of major rain belts that models reproduce only imperfectly. Tropical rain and monsoon systems provide freshwater, determine growing seasons, replenish reservoirs and groundwater, and support food production for billions of people.

Just Have a Think vlog discussion of the research makes the point beautifully: if a rain belt shifts, agriculture shifts. Reservoir performance changes. Flood risk changes. Hydropower changes. Groundwater recharge changes. The movement can be almost invisible from one year to the next and profoundly important after several decades.
And this is where rate of change matters.

The climate has never been static. Rivers move. Rain belts migrate. Coastlines advance and retreat. Species shift their ranges. Over geological time, enormous changes are perfectly ordinary.

Civilization, however, did not develop on geological time.

We built farms, cities, dams, ports, power plants and water systems during a comparatively stable climatic interval, and we built them to last for decades or centuries. A reservoir can accommodate wet years and dry years. A bridge can accommodate floods. Farmers can adjust planting dates. What becomes much harder is adapting when the underlying conditions are changing faster than the systems built around them can be redesigned, financed, permitted, constructed or relocated.

This is where climate change becomes much more interesting, and much scarier, than a thermometer.

Civilization is constructed around assumptions of persistence. A river runs here, rain falls there, snow melts during this season; this region grows wheat, that reservoir fills in winter, this aquifer recharges at roughly this rate, and the high-water mark is approximately there. Over generations, those observations about nature became design specifications for civilization. We located cities, farms, dams, roads, power stations, ports and water systems around an expectation that, although conditions would vary from year to year, the underlying patterns would remain reasonably familiar.

Climate change does not necessarily need to blow infrastructure apart to make it fail. It only needs to invalidate the assumptions under which it was designed, and do so faster than we can redesign the infrastructure.

If that still sounds like models and graphs, Reno, Nevada, is what it looks like on Monday morning.

The Hawk Fire began northwest of Reno on Saturday and grew to more than 15,000 acres by this morning, pushed by wind into neighborhoods around the city. Authorities say the fire was human-caused, although exactly how it started remains under investigation. At least six people have been injured, including three first responders; homes have been destroyed, nearly 10,000 customers have lost power, schools have closed and portions of US 395 have been shut down. Roughly 42,000 people were under evacuation orders and another 45,000 in warning zones as shifting winds repeatedly changed the direction of the fire.

Climate change did not strike the match, but it is changing the background conditions that can make fires harder to control. Heat, low humidity, dry vegetation and wind help determine whether an ignition remains manageable or becomes a metropolitan evacuation. That is how climate risk usually enters everyday life: not wearing a little badge that says CLIMATE CHANGE, but as power shutoffs, closed schools and highways, strained fire crews, mass evacuations and insurers reconsidering whether your house is worth covering at all. And Reno is hardly having a private crisis.

As of this morning, the United States is at National Wildland Fire Preparedness Level 5, the highest level. More than 50,000 wildfires have burned about 7.74 million acres this year, 169 percent of the ten-year average acreage for this point in the season. Seventy-nine large fires are currently being managed, with more than 22,000 firefighters and support personnel assigned.

Canada is also at Preparedness Level 5.

CIFFC’s August 23 report listed 637 active fires, with more than 4.3 million hectares burned this year. Level 5 means firefighters and equipment are already heavily committed across jurisdictions and international assistance has been requested.

That simultaneous demand matters because aircraft, firefighters, emergency managers and utility crews are finite, and disaster budgets are not infinite.

A changing climate doesn’t have to make every fire unprecedented. It only has to make expensive emergencies common enough, large enough and simultaneous enough that systems designed to handle exceptional events can no longer treat them as exceptional.

Europe is discovering the same thing.

As of August 20, nearly 620,000 hectares had burned across the European Union this year. That remains below 2025, the EU’s worst fire year on record, but is still more than twice the twenty-year average for this point in the season.

France and Spain have endured enormous fires and mass evacuations this summer. World Weather Attribution found that the extreme fire-weather conditions seen in central Spain in July are now at least 20 times more likely than in a preindustrial climate, while similarly severe conditions in southwestern France have become at least twice as likely.
The mechanism is straightforward: a wet winter produces abundant vegetation, then exceptional heat and drought dry it into fuel.

Fire is only one expression of the same underlying stress.

England is having a water problem.

Seventy-one percent of the country’s land area is now officially in drought. Rainfall for August through August 20 was just 17 percent of the long-term average. Seven major reservoirs were at exceptionally low levels. Approximately 29 million people were living under temporary water-use restrictions.

Farmers are reporting agricultural boreholes drying up. Farm reservoirs are critically low or empty. More than 1,500 abstraction restrictions are in force. Crop yields are poor. Grass growth is down, threatening winter feed supplies for livestock. Root crops are becoming difficult to harvest because the ground is so hard.

There is something called a “flash drought,” which sounds like the sort of aggressively marketed drought Silicon Valley would invent after deciding ordinary drought wasn’t selling.

It means exactly what it sounds like: drought conditions intensifying unusually quickly because very low rainfall coincides with high heat and evaporation.

England is only one piece of the European water story.

Half of the European Union and United Kingdom was under some level of drought by late July. Europe’s four major rivers, the Loire, Po, Rhine and Danube, reached record-low levels in August. The European Commission’s Joint Research Centre says water resources, agriculture, energy, river transport, tourism and ecosystems are all being squeezed simultaneously.

“Simultaneously” is doing an enormous amount of work. A river simultaneously supplies drinking water, irrigation, freight, industry, power generation and habitat. We divide those functions into separate sectors because that is how bureaucracies and newspapers work; the river does not recognize the categories. When its flow drops far enough, the supposedly separate systems begin failing together.

Across the Danube basin this summer, low water has constrained navigation, agriculture, hydroelectric production and nuclear generation. This is where the abstraction becomes almost comically physical: as the Danube fell, Romanian authorities dredged the river and even sank rock-filled barges to redirect more water toward the cooling intake at the Cernavodă nuclear plant. The improvisation bought time, but falling water levels ultimately forced reactor shutdowns.
Nothing in the machinery had to break for the system to fail. A nuclear reactor can be fully functional and still stop producing power because its cooling-water source has fallen outside its operating range; a hydroelectric turbine can sit idle for lack of flow, a cargo vessel can lose capacity because the channel is too shallow, and a productive farm can fail for lack of water.

Climate change does not have to destroy infrastructure to make it unusable. It only has to push the physical conditions that infrastructure depends on beyond the assumptions built into its design.

And there, I think, we return to Hemingway. Rainfall declines, soils dry, reservoirs fall, rivers grow shallower and vegetation loses moisture while power plants, barges, taps and crops keep functioning. The “suddenly” is often just the moment when those accumulated stresses finally push a system past its margin.

That is the part of the climate discussion we routinely miss. Collapse is rarely a single event arriving from nowhere; more often it is the end of a long erosion of resilience that remained mostly invisible while the system still appeared to work.

Systems that were once comfortably inside their operating envelopes move closer to the edge. They still work, so we congratulate ourselves. Then a drought, fire, storm, heatwave or equipment failure arrives and discovers that the cushion has already been spent.

A lot of resilience looks like waste right up until the minute you need it.

So after all of that, here is the part where I decline to tell you that civilization is doomed and recommend drinking heavily before breakfast. We actually know quite a lot about how to stop making the underlying problem worse, and something extraordinary has been happening while political arguments over renewable energy continue as though solar panels remain an exotic technology personally invented last Thursday by Greta Thunberg.

The world installed a record 664 gigawatts of solar power in 2025, pushing global capacity past three terawatts and supplying roughly 9 percent of global electricity demand, about three times its share five years ago. A technology that was prohibitively expensive a generation ago is now one of the cheapest forms of new electricity generation available across much of the world.

Which means the problem has changed. For decades the renewable-energy question was whether we could make enough inexpensive clean electricity. Increasingly, the answer is yes. The bottlenecks are transmission, storage, interconnection, planning, grid flexibility and market rules designed for twentieth-century power stations rather than millions of distributed generators.

The Just Have a Think discussion of SolarPower Europe’s latest report gets this exactly right: the next stage of the energy transition is increasingly about integration rather than generation. Electricity systems built around large centralized fossil-fuel plants were not designed for millions of rooftops producing power simultaneously at noon. Solar can succeed so rapidly that the grid itself becomes the constraint, which is such a perfect ending to this particular story that I almost resent it. Once again, the shiny object receives the attention. The connective tissue decides whether the shiny object works. Transmission lines, substations and battery-storage permitting are not sexy, and flexible electricity pricing has never once caused anyone to throw their underwear onto a stage. But civilization is mostly composed of boring things that function.

We know how to generate low-carbon electricity, build transmission and store it in batteries. We also know how to electrify transport and heating, design cities that hold onto more water and absorb less heat, and restore the wetlands, watersheds and forests that used to do some of that work for free. Humanity possesses sufficient cleverness, but can deploy it before physics completes the peer review?

Naturally, this brings us to ticks.

After an entire morning devoted to humanity discovering that natural systems have operating rules whether we approve of them or not, it seems only appropriate that Martha’s Vineyard is experiencing a remarkable increase in Alpha-Gal Syndrome.

Alpha-Gal is a bizarre condition in which a bite from certain ticks can cause an allergy to a sugar molecule found in most mammalian meat and some mammal-derived products. Suddenly beef, pork, lamb, and sometimes dairy products can cause serious allergic reactions.

On Martha’s Vineyard, hospital testing went from nine alpha-gal tests in 2020, two of them positive, to 1,689 tests in 2025, with 742 positive results. Massachusetts made Alpha-Gal Syndrome a reportable condition effective April 1.

Lone star ticks have been expanding and re-establishing populations farther north for a mixture of reasons involving deer, land use and habitat. Warming conditions may make northern environments friendlier to them, although I would not blame climate change alone for their spread.

Still, there is something almost offensively elegant about the ecological joke: we raise enormous numbers of cattle, cattle emit methane, methane contributes significantly to planetary heating, a warming climate may help make more northern territory hospitable to a tick, the tick bites us, and our immune system announces that perhaps we shall not be eating the cow after all.

Nature does not, alas, have a Department of Ironic Retribution. But if she did, Alpha-Gal Syndrome would be difficult to improve upon.

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Date: 25/08/2026 11:05:05
From: buffy
ID: 2423629
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Operation Economic Outcast

I heard the news piece about the US’s latest Great Idea for bashing Iran on the news on the car radio this morning. I really don’t see how they can think this can work in any way. I mean…China? And who believes a word the US says now?

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Date: 25/08/2026 11:08:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2423632
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:

Operation Economic Outcast

I heard the news piece about the US’s latest Great Idea for bashing Iran on the news on the car radio this morning. I really don’t see how they can think this can work in any way. I mean…China? And who believes a word the US says now?

pretty sure Canadialand believe the ussa when they make threats, and Canadialand are taking it seriously

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-25/canada-us-trade-rift-explained/107073872

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Date: 25/08/2026 11:10:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2423634
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

yes timothy

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Date: 25/08/2026 11:20:19
From: Cymek
ID: 2423636
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

Operation Economic Outcast

I heard the news piece about the US’s latest Great Idea for bashing Iran on the news on the car radio this morning. I really don’t see how they can think this can work in any way. I mean…China? And who believes a word the US says now?

pretty sure Canadialand believe the ussa when they make threats, and Canadialand are taking it seriously

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-25/canada-us-trade-rift-explained/107073872

I assume the USA will become isolationist and turn inwards and cut off all contact with outside world.
It will go silent, expeditions decades later will find a barren waste land populated by inbreed clones of Trump and Musk love children

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Date: 25/08/2026 11:21:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2423639
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

Operation Economic Outcast

I heard the news piece about the US’s latest Great Idea for bashing Iran on the news on the car radio this morning. I really don’t see how they can think this can work in any way. I mean…China? And who believes a word the US says now?

pretty sure Canadialand believe the ussa when they make threats, and Canadialand are taking it seriously

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-25/canada-us-trade-rift-explained/107073872

I assume the USA will become isolationist and turn inwards and cut off all contact with outside world.
It will go silent, expeditions decades later will find a barren waste land populated by inbreed clones of Trump and Musk love children

oh so they meant someone in particular when they said outcast

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Date: 25/08/2026 12:04:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 2423656
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

pretty sure Canadialand believe the ussa when they make threats, and Canadialand are taking it seriously

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-25/canada-us-trade-rift-explained/107073872

I assume the USA will become isolationist and turn inwards and cut off all contact with outside world.
It will go silent, expeditions decades later will find a barren waste land populated by inbreed clones of Trump and Musk love children

oh so they meant someone in particular when they said outcast

Whether they meant it or not, This looks like being the only outcome.

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Date: 25/08/2026 13:33:21
From: kii
ID: 2423705
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

They are insane.
Trump rescued the USA from Great Britain.

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Date: 25/08/2026 13:48:04
From: Michael V
ID: 2423707
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


They are insane.
Trump rescued the USA from Great Britain.

Unfortunately, there is one in every crowd.

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Date: 25/08/2026 14:02:15
From: kii
ID: 2423709
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

They are insane.
Trump rescued the USA from Great Britain.

Unfortunately, there is one in every crowd.

Actually, there are too many of them in each crowd.

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Date: 25/08/2026 15:50:19
From: ms spock
ID: 2423761
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

They are insane.
Trump rescued the USA from Great Britain.

Unfortunately, there is one in every crowd.

And they used to be stuck in the pub, with everyone rolling their eyes at them.

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Date: 25/08/2026 16:21:08
From: dv
ID: 2423780
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.syracuse.com/us-news/2026/08/police-seek-man-who-found-30-on-walmart-floor-and-didnt-turn-it-in-this-is-a-joke-right.html

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Date: 25/08/2026 16:29:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2423784
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

https://www.syracuse.com/us-news/2026/08/police-seek-man-who-found-30-on-walmart-floor-and-didnt-turn-it-in-this-is-a-joke-right.html

surely Iranian propaganda

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Date: 25/08/2026 18:50:14
From: kii
ID: 2423810
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I really, really hope that this part of the fight is true. I know it happened, but this photo has captured something that is just perfect.

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Date: 26/08/2026 01:51:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2423868
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/aug/24/washington-post-reinstate-karen-attiah

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Date: 26/08/2026 01:56:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2423869
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/aug/24/washington-post-reinstate-karen-attiah

https://karenattiah.substack.com/p/the-washington-post-fired-me-i-foughtand

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Date: 26/08/2026 12:57:41
From: kii
ID: 2423980
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

On the day that Dolly Parton has died the news reports that Trump is planning to demolish the Kennedy Center because it is structurally unsound.

Link

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Date: 26/08/2026 12:59:08
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2423981
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


On the day that Dolly Parton has died the news reports that Trump is planning to demolish the Kennedy Center because it is structurally unsound.

Link

The man-child strikes again.
What a colossal f’wit he is.

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Date: 26/08/2026 13:00:13
From: Neophyte
ID: 2423983
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


On the day that Dolly Parton has died the news reports that Trump is planning to demolish the Kennedy Center because it is structurally unsound.

Link

They ought to demolish him for the same reason.

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Date: 26/08/2026 13:16:36
From: Cymek
ID: 2423991
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


kii said:

On the day that Dolly Parton has died the news reports that Trump is planning to demolish the Kennedy Center because it is structurally unsound.

Link

The man-child strikes again.
What a colossal f’wit he is.

Its very fascist type behaviour, erasing history of past leaders

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Date: 26/08/2026 13:19:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2423993
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Spiny Norman said:

kii said:

On the day that Dolly Parton has died the news reports that Trump is planning to demolish the Kennedy Center because it is structurally unsound.

Link

The man-child strikes again.
What a colossal f’wit he is.

Its very fascist type behaviour, erasing history of past leaders

cancel cultist

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Date: 26/08/2026 14:11:50
From: kii
ID: 2424011
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Today in Insanity from Trump…

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Date: 26/08/2026 14:26:26
From: Cymek
ID: 2424016
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Today in Insanity from Trump…


Canada is stealing money for the USA and no one noticed until now.

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Date: 27/08/2026 09:00:55
From: dv
ID: 2424164
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.stripes.com/branches/navy/2026-08-25/lawsuit-workers-comp-sexual-assault-navy-ship-22658787.html

A judge dismissed a lawsuit from a civilian engineer in the Military Sealift Command after it was determined that her report of being raped in her own bed aboard a Navy transport ship was within her duties and must be treated as a worker’s comp claim.

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Date: 27/08/2026 09:11:01
From: Michael V
ID: 2424166
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.stripes.com/branches/navy/2026-08-25/lawsuit-workers-comp-sexual-assault-navy-ship-22658787.html

A judge dismissed a lawsuit from a civilian engineer in the Military Sealift Command after it was determined that her report of being raped in her own bed aboard a Navy transport ship was within her duties and must be treated as a worker’s comp claim.

wtaf?

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Date: 27/08/2026 09:24:57
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2424169
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.stripes.com/branches/navy/2026-08-25/lawsuit-workers-comp-sexual-assault-navy-ship-22658787.html

A judge dismissed a lawsuit from a civilian engineer in the Military Sealift Command after it was determined that her report of being raped in her own bed aboard a Navy transport ship was within her duties and must be treated as a worker’s comp claim.

Not by any rationalisation is rape part of your duties in the miitary.

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Date: 27/08/2026 09:37:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424171
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

wait so are they saying it was part of the contract

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Date: 27/08/2026 09:37:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424172
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

wait so are they saying it was part of the contract

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Date: 27/08/2026 10:20:35
From: Obviousman
ID: 2424196
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Unbelievable. I’d like to say ‘Only in the USA’ but we are masters of the SNAFU.

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Date: 27/08/2026 10:23:41
From: kii
ID: 2424199
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Obviousman said:


Unbelievable. I’d like to say ‘Only in the USA’ but we are masters of the SNAFU.

With reference to which particular thing? There is so much to choose from.

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Date: 27/08/2026 10:27:59
From: Obviousman
ID: 2424204
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The lady being raped, in her bed, in her cabin, by the ship’s Master. And then being told it is a compo claim not a criminal claim.

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Date: 27/08/2026 10:31:36
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2424207
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Obviousman said:


The lady being raped, in her bed, in her cabin, by the ship’s Master. And then being told it is a compo claim not a criminal claim.

shakes fist at Trump

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Date: 27/08/2026 10:39:48
From: kii
ID: 2424211
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Obviousman said:


The lady being raped, in her bed, in her cabin, by the ship’s Master. And then being told it is a compo claim not a criminal claim.

Yeah, that shit. I couldn’t read too much about that one. I get nauseous thinking about that woman’s situation.

I’m still trying to digest the statements made by a male medical professional witness in the Lindsay Clancy trial about the medical definition of an episiotomy during cross-examination by Clancy’s defense attorney.

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Date: 27/08/2026 10:41:29
From: kii
ID: 2424213
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Obviousman said:

The lady being raped, in her bed, in her cabin, by the ship’s Master. And then being told it is a compo claim not a criminal claim.

shakes fist at Trump

Good grief you are a sack of shit, PWM.

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Date: 27/08/2026 10:50:17
From: dv
ID: 2424217
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The situation was that the commander used his master code to enter her quarters and rape her, but even though she reported it immediately through the right channels, she was left under his command for a period of time. He was prosecuted quite some time later.
This trial was a lawsuit against the navy for leaving her in danger. The navy’s point of view is that this is in the same category as an injury relieved on board in the course of duties.

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Date: 27/08/2026 10:52:59
From: Michael V
ID: 2424220
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


The situation was that the commander used his master code to enter her quarters and rape her, but even though she reported it immediately through the right channels, she was left under his command for a period of time. He was prosecuted quite some time later.
This trial was a lawsuit against the navy for leaving her in danger. The navy’s point of view is that this is in the same category as an injury relieved on board in the course of duties.

!!!

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Date: 27/08/2026 10:53:23
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2424221
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Obviousman said:


The lady being raped, in her bed, in her cabin, by the ship’s Master. And then being told it is a compo claim not a criminal claim.

How about if she was shot?
Still not a criminal claim? Such a weird system?

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Date: 27/08/2026 10:59:04
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2424223
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


The situation was that the commander used his master code to enter her quarters and rape her, but even though she reported it immediately through the right channels, she was left under his command for a period of time. He was prosecuted quite some time later.
This trial was a lawsuit against the navy for leaving her in danger. The navy’s point of view is that this is in the same category as an injury relieved on board in the course of duties.

Her body probably shut down and she didn’t know anything had happened until much later. That’s the usual narrative being pushed 🙄

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Date: 27/08/2026 11:06:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 2424227
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Obviousman said:


The lady being raped, in her bed, in her cabin, by the ship’s Master. And then being told it is a compo claim not a criminal claim.

weird.

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Date: 27/08/2026 11:07:04
From: Cymek
ID: 2424228
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


The situation was that the commander used his master code to enter her quarters and rape her, but even though she reported it immediately through the right channels, she was left under his command for a period of time. He was prosecuted quite some time later.
This trial was a lawsuit against the navy for leaving her in danger. The navy’s point of view is that this is in the same category as an injury relieved on board in the course of duties.

Armed forces have poor reputations on how they treat woman.
Perhaps they all need training on how to castrate an assailant

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Date: 27/08/2026 12:03:34
From: ms spock
ID: 2424245
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Dems are pretty disappointing at times.

Danielle Moodie

Link

2 minutes.

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Date: 27/08/2026 12:28:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424257
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

dv said:

The situation was that the commander used his master code to enter her quarters and rape her, but even though she reported it immediately through the right channels, she was left under his command for a period of time. He was prosecuted quite some time later.
This trial was a lawsuit against the navy for leaving her in danger. The navy’s point of view is that this is in the same category as an injury relieved on board in the course of duties.

Armed forces have poor reputations on how they treat woman.
Perhaps they all need training on how to castrate an assailant

we thought it was because they only want Real Men in the warrior forces so this is a good strategy

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Date: 27/08/2026 12:28:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424258
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


dv said:

The situation was that the commander used his master code to enter her quarters and rape her, but even though she reported it immediately through the right channels, she was left under his command for a period of time. He was prosecuted quite some time later.
This trial was a lawsuit against the navy for leaving her in danger. The navy’s point of view is that this is in the same category as an injury relieved on board in the course of duties.

Her body probably shut down and she didn’t know anything had happened until much later. That’s the usual narrative being pushed 🙄

well she should have dressed more modestly

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Date: 27/08/2026 12:36:51
From: ms spock
ID: 2424262
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.stripes.com/branches/navy/2026-08-25/lawsuit-workers-comp-sexual-assault-navy-ship-22658787.html

A judge dismissed a lawsuit from a civilian engineer in the Military Sealift Command after it was determined that her report of being raped in her own bed aboard a Navy transport ship was within her duties and must be treated as a worker’s comp claim.

It is totally insane.

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Date: 27/08/2026 17:19:09
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2424340
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SECURING AMERICA’S BULK-POWER SYSTEM: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to protect the security, integrity, and reliability of bulk-power system electric equipment used in the United States, particularly from interference by foreign actors.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/08/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-declares-a-national-emergency-to-secure-americas-bulk-power-system/

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Date: 27/08/2026 17:28:41
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2424342
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


SECURING AMERICA’S BULK-POWER SYSTEM: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to protect the security, integrity, and reliability of bulk-power system electric equipment used in the United States, particularly from interference by foreign actors.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/08/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-declares-a-national-emergency-to-secure-americas-bulk-power-system/

So the ‘declaring a national emergency’ thing has already started, ahead of the November elections.

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Date: 27/08/2026 17:39:42
From: buffy
ID: 2424346
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


SECURING AMERICA’S BULK-POWER SYSTEM: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to protect the security, integrity, and reliability of bulk-power system electric equipment used in the United States, particularly from interference by foreign actors.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/08/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-declares-a-national-emergency-to-secure-americas-bulk-power-system/

Canada has got him very, very worried.

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Date: 27/08/2026 17:41:54
From: Cymek
ID: 2424348
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Divine Angel said:

SECURING AMERICA’S BULK-POWER SYSTEM: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to protect the security, integrity, and reliability of bulk-power system electric equipment used in the United States, particularly from interference by foreign actors.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/08/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-declares-a-national-emergency-to-secure-americas-bulk-power-system/

Canada has got him very, very worried.

After they bombed the Baldwins I’m not surprised

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Date: 27/08/2026 17:42:30
From: Cymek
ID: 2424349
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

SECURING AMERICA’S BULK-POWER SYSTEM: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to protect the security, integrity, and reliability of bulk-power system electric equipment used in the United States, particularly from interference by foreign actors.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/08/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-declares-a-national-emergency-to-secure-americas-bulk-power-system/

Canada has got him very, very worried.

After they bombed the Baldwins I’m not surprised

Australia is weaponising Robadob clones

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Date: 27/08/2026 17:43:29
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2424350
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Divine Angel said:

SECURING AMERICA’S BULK-POWER SYSTEM: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to protect the security, integrity, and reliability of bulk-power system electric equipment used in the United States, particularly from interference by foreign actors.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/08/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-declares-a-national-emergency-to-secure-americas-bulk-power-system/

So the ‘declaring a national emergency’ thing has already started, ahead of the November elections.

There’s several National emergencies. I counted 18 current emergencies by Trump, but the list doesn’t include this energy one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United_States

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Date: 27/08/2026 18:37:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424354
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

Cymek said:

buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

Divine Angel said:

SECURING AMERICA’S BULK-POWER SYSTEM: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to protect the security, integrity, and reliability of bulk-power system electric equipment used in the United States, particularly from interference by foreign actors.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/08/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-declares-a-national-emergency-to-secure-americas-bulk-power-system/

So the ‘declaring a national emergency’ thing has already started, ahead of the November elections.

Canada has got him very, very worried.

After they bombed the Baldwins I’m not surprised

Australia is weaponising Robadob clones

meanwhile on our other side of the world

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-27/parents-worry-how-mega-coal-mine-extension-will-impact-kids/107074626

the locals are right to be worried given that the very day after winter they’re already in summer temperatures

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Date: 27/08/2026 18:54:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424358
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Cymek said:

After they bombed the Baldwins I’m not surprised

Australia is weaponising Robadob clones

meanwhile on our other side of the world

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-27/parents-worry-how-mega-coal-mine-extension-will-impact-kids/107074626

the locals are right to be worried given that the very day after winter they’re already in summer temperatures

LOL

Scientists published today the world’s first climate attribution study to link major fossil fuel emitters’ emissions to water loss in the Western U.S. Almost half of decreased snowpack and streamflow in the region, they found, is attributable to 122 oil, gas and cement producers.

alleged

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Date: 27/08/2026 19:58:14
From: ms spock
ID: 2424376
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Prof David Cay Johnson has been writing about Trump for decades. His latest thoughts.

Link

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Date: 27/08/2026 21:57:20
From: ms spock
ID: 2424397
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


I really, really hope that this part of the fight is true. I know it happened, but this photo has captured something that is just perfect.


Classic

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Date: 28/08/2026 00:34:59
From: dv
ID: 2424403
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

WSJ is pure satire now

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Date: 28/08/2026 01:30:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424406
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

WSJ is pure satire now

what’s more telling is 340000000 americese take it at face value

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Date: 28/08/2026 04:27:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 2424410
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Australia is weaponising Robadob clones

meanwhile on our other side of the world

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-27/parents-worry-how-mega-coal-mine-extension-will-impact-kids/107074626

the locals are right to be worried given that the very day after winter they’re already in summer temperatures

LOL

Scientists published today the world’s first climate attribution study to link major fossil fuel emitters’ emissions to water loss in the Western U.S. Almost half of decreased snowpack and streamflow in the region, they found, is attributable to 122 oil, gas and cement producers.

alleged

So when are they paying compensation?

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Date: 28/08/2026 05:48:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 2424412
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

1.6 degrees, feels like -0.2.

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Date: 28/08/2026 11:23:41
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2424515
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 28/08/2026 11:25:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424517
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


loving how 340000000 americese are loving these tryhards

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Date: 28/08/2026 11:25:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424518
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Divine Angel said:


Utterly shameless is this berk

loving how 340000000 americese are loving these tryhards

^

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Date: 28/08/2026 11:27:23
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2424519
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 28/08/2026 11:30:30
From: Boris
ID: 2424520
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



Just about to post that.

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Date: 28/08/2026 11:34:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424522
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


so it’s lake lake, what a genius

According to the Chiefs of Ontario, a coalition of leaders from the First Nations in Ontario, the name Ontario comes from the Mohawk word Oniatari:io (or Kanadario) meaning “beautiful lake” or “sparkling water”.

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Date: 28/08/2026 11:35:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424523
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Boris said:

Divine Angel said:


Just about to post that.

well you should, between this and renaming lake lake, there should be enough cover to hide the paedo philes for another month

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Date: 28/08/2026 11:38:56
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2424527
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



Beautiful pic.

When is he going off to join her?

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Date: 28/08/2026 11:40:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424528
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:


Beautiful pic.

When is he going off to join her?

won’t they be separated by earth

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Date: 28/08/2026 11:45:41
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2424533
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:


so it’s lake lake, what a genius

According to the Chiefs of Ontario, a coalition of leaders from the First Nations in Ontario, the name Ontario comes from the Mohawk word Oniatari:io (or Kanadario) meaning “beautiful lake” or “sparkling water”.

Ontario America

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Date: 28/08/2026 11:46:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424534
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:


so it’s lake lake, what a genius

According to the Chiefs of Ontario, a coalition of leaders from the First Nations in Ontario, the name Ontario comes from the Mohawk word Oniatari:io (or Kanadario) meaning “beautiful lake” or “sparkling water”.

Ontario America

oooh yes perfect

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Date: 28/08/2026 11:46:12
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2424535
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Divine Angel said:


Beautiful pic.

When is he going off to join her?

Sif he’d be allowed into Heaven.

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Date: 28/08/2026 12:59:59
From: Cymek
ID: 2424554
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



What’s funny is he’s serious but I imagine he has no sense of humour at all as he’s not smart enough to get satire/sarcasm/irony

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Date: 28/08/2026 13:01:40
From: ms spock
ID: 2424556
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



Sadly folks will believe this images.

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Date: 28/08/2026 13:10:01
From: Cymek
ID: 2424558
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Divine Angel said:


Sadly folks will believe this images.

It’s funny because its kind of a gentleman escorting a lady through the slave fields and talking sweet nonsense

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Date: 28/08/2026 13:17:00
From: ms spock
ID: 2424566
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:


Sadly folks will believe this images.

It’s funny because its kind of a gentleman escorting a lady through the slave fields and talking sweet nonsense

I did not get this.

Ta

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Date: 28/08/2026 13:23:23
From: furious
ID: 2424570
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:


Sadly folks will believe this images.

It’s funny because its kind of a gentleman escorting a lady through the slave fields and talking sweet nonsense

Someone should do the same but swap Ms Parton with Tim Curry … as Dr. Frank-N-Furter…

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Date: 28/08/2026 13:35:36
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2424577
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Millions of Texans are suspended from voting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/xCWpVC5q0j

There’s a linked article within the Reddit thread, but the real worry is the number of comments from Texans who had no idea they were affected.

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Date: 28/08/2026 13:36:16
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2424578
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

They have my vote.
______________________

Should Canada change the name of Lake America to Lake Epstein?

https://www.reddit.com/r/allthequestions/comments/1w0by6p/should_canada_change_the_name_of_lake_america_to/

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Date: 28/08/2026 13:41:03
From: Cymek
ID: 2424583
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


They have my vote.
______________________

Should Canada change the name of Lake America to Lake Epstein?

https://www.reddit.com/r/allthequestions/comments/1w0by6p/should_canada_change_the_name_of_lake_america_to/

Got to love the world taking the piss

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Date: 28/08/2026 13:52:34
From: dv
ID: 2424590
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Millions of Texans are suspended from voting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/xCWpVC5q0j

There’s a linked article within the Reddit thread, but the real worry is the number of comments from Texans who had no idea they were affected.

Damn

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Date: 28/08/2026 14:04:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424598
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

Millions of Texans are suspended from voting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/xCWpVC5q0j

There’s a linked article within the Reddit thread, but the real worry is the number of comments from Texans who had no idea they were affected.

Damn

“comments from Texans who had no idea” yeah right sure of course “what we thought this was the great country of freedom we voted for fascism they both begin with f same difference right”

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Date: 28/08/2026 14:08:42
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2424600
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

Millions of Texans are suspended from voting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/xCWpVC5q0j

There’s a linked article within the Reddit thread, but the real worry is the number of comments from Texans who had no idea they were affected.

Damn

“comments from Texans who had no idea” yeah right sure of course “what we thought this was the great country of freedom we voted for fascism they both begin with f same difference right”

My understanding of Texan electoral districts and numbers who voted Democrats does have a wide knowledge gap. Wondering if the suspended voters are in areas which voted blue, or are identified/registered Dem voters.

Moreover, can Australia suspend voters if they’re identified as One Nation voters? Asking for a friend.

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Date: 28/08/2026 14:23:57
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2424614
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

Millions of Texans are suspended from voting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/xCWpVC5q0j

There’s a linked article within the Reddit thread, but the real worry is the number of comments from Texans who had no idea they were affected.

Damn

I was doing a deep dive on this with this US government agency report. I can’t find it now in the link but it’s not unusual for millions, especially in a state as populated as Texas to fall off the voter list because they’ve moved etc. Most people do end up voting.

https://www.eac.gov/sites/default/files/2025-07/2024_EAVS_Report_508.pdf

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Date: 28/08/2026 15:17:46
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2424640
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Memes or politics, memes or politics?

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Date: 28/08/2026 15:20:46
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2424641
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Had a squiz at Google Earth

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Date: 28/08/2026 15:20:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424642
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

Memes or politics, memes or politics?


language evolves

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Date: 28/08/2026 15:34:07
From: dv
ID: 2424645
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I think the Swastwinka that really sells this

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Date: 28/08/2026 18:56:24
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2424720
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 29/08/2026 09:49:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2424908
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Boris said:

Divine Angel said:


Just about to post that.

well you should, between this and renaming lake lake, there should be enough cover to hide the paedo philes for another month

wait

so what they’re saying is that what the judge possesses isn’t breaking the law

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Date: 29/08/2026 09:59:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2424915
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Boris said:

Just about to post that.

well you should, between this and renaming lake lake, there should be enough cover to hide the paedo philes for another month

wait

so what they’re saying is that what the judge possesses isn’t breaking the law

Sickos programming AI to depict children.

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Date: 29/08/2026 10:06:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2424917
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

well you should, between this and renaming lake lake, there should be enough cover to hide the paedo philes for another month

wait

so what they’re saying is that what the judge possesses isn’t breaking the law

Sickos programming AI to depict children.

Content creators of AI sexuality depicted children, the online sex sites that distribute them and the pedos who downlad and watch the videos should all be jailed.

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Date: 29/08/2026 10:40:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2424925
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

wait

so what they’re saying is that what the judge possesses isn’t breaking the law

Sickos programming AI to depict children.

Content creators of AI sexuality depicted children, the online sex sites that distribute them and the pedos who downlad and watch the videos should all be jailed.

That model is similar to this model

Cigarette manufacturers, shops that sell, Cigarette smokers.

Supply, distribute, buyers.

A pattern of three.

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Date: 29/08/2026 13:18:39
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2424983
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

American standards are falling, ethics in politics are failing, criminal activity is being dismissed.

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Date: 29/08/2026 13:25:28
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2424985
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


American standards are falling, ethics in politics are failing, criminal activity is being dismissed.

Human rights are being degraded, wages are being deliberately kept low. Cost of living is becoming higher, gun death is increasing. Environmental concerns are being second shelved.

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Date: 29/08/2026 14:19:26
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2425006
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2028-election/pete-hegseth-talking-possible-run-president-2028-sources-say-rcna594891

Pete Hegseth is talking about a possible run for president in 2028, sources say.

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Date: 29/08/2026 14:49:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425015
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2028-election/pete-hegseth-talking-possible-run-president-2028-sources-say-rcna594891

Pete Hegseth is talking about a possible run for president in 2028, sources say.

wait he would ¿ dare to run against the dear leader

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Date: 29/08/2026 15:02:45
From: Ian
ID: 2425019
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

American standards are falling, ethics in politics are failing, criminal activity is being dismissed.

Human rights are being degraded, wages are being deliberately kept low. Cost of living is becoming higher, gun death is increasing. Environmental concerns are being second shelved.

True enough. But there are negatives as well.

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Date: 29/08/2026 15:14:36
From: Michael V
ID: 2425022
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2028-election/pete-hegseth-talking-possible-run-president-2028-sources-say-rcna594891

Pete Hegseth is talking about a possible run for president in 2028, sources say.

He’s on the nose now because he is killing American lads and Iranian school kids. I doubt he would make it.

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Date: 29/08/2026 15:30:40
From: dv
ID: 2425027
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-29/milo-yiannopoulos-arrested-in-us-by-ice/107093336

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Date: 29/08/2026 15:32:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2425029
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-29/milo-yiannopoulos-arrested-in-us-by-ice/107093336

Heh.

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Date: 29/08/2026 16:04:29
From: Michael V
ID: 2425038
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-29/milo-yiannopoulos-arrested-in-us-by-ice/107093336

Hahahahahaha

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Date: 29/08/2026 16:12:36
From: kii
ID: 2425042
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-29/milo-yiannopoulos-arrested-in-us-by-ice/107093336

Lololol…hiccup……..lololol…….snort……lol

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Date: 29/08/2026 16:45:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425055
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

yeah but just wait until they fall him upwards into a powerful role in this administration

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Date: 29/08/2026 16:49:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425056
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ian said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

American standards are falling, ethics in politics are failing, criminal activity is being dismissed.

Human rights are being degraded, wages are being deliberately kept low. Cost of living is becoming higher, gun death is increasing. Environmental concerns are being second shelved.

True enough. But there are negatives as well.

well hopefully our politicians threatening to reduce our refugee intake can get it done before millions of americese subfascists come seeking asylum in hordes

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Date: 29/08/2026 17:36:30
From: ms spock
ID: 2425060
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-29/milo-yiannopoulos-arrested-in-us-by-ice/107093336

Hahahahahaha

+1

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Date: 29/08/2026 17:47:10
From: ms spock
ID: 2425068
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Ian said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Human rights are being degraded, wages are being deliberately kept low. Cost of living is becoming higher, gun death is increasing. Environmental concerns are being second shelved.

True enough. But there are negatives as well.

well hopefully our politicians threatening to reduce our refugee intake can get it done before millions of americese subfascists come seeking asylum in hordes

America and Australia agreed not to take each other’s citizens as “refugees”. First and only year of law a long time ago.

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Date: 29/08/2026 22:06:19
From: kii
ID: 2425125
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 30/08/2026 11:33:10
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2425248
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The opinion in this video is most encouraging. It’s about trump’s health & mental health.

https://youtu.be/P_0bs9LkKt0?si=2hg1BjLQMNl3Fui6&t=424

Tick tock ….

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Date: 30/08/2026 14:11:26
From: ms spock
ID: 2425325
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:



I like it! 😁

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Date: 30/08/2026 14:23:41
From: Michael V
ID: 2425329
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


kii said:


I like it! 😁

:)

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Date: 30/08/2026 20:07:12
From: ms spock
ID: 2425427
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump Is Playing Jenga With America — And the Tower Is Falling | Rick Wilson & Wajahat Ali

Link

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Date: 30/08/2026 20:17:14
From: Ian
ID: 2425428
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 30/08/2026 21:57:03
From: dv
ID: 2425441
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

A data centre wrote this

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Date: 31/08/2026 05:25:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425449
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

A data centre wrote this

we mean after their populist victory Ein Reich are now scoring Yousr ABC gushing and apologism so shrug

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Date: 31/08/2026 10:16:47
From: ms spock
ID: 2425501
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


A data centre wrote this

😂😂😂

Who needs to drink that black or brown water?

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Date: 31/08/2026 11:58:33
From: Ian
ID: 2425525
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Say something normal

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Date: 31/08/2026 13:12:24
From: ms spock
ID: 2425550
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ian said:

Say something normal

It is just not possible.

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Date: 31/08/2026 13:12:30
From: kryten
ID: 2425551
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Lake Ontario Facebook song

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Date: 31/08/2026 13:39:47
From: ms spock
ID: 2425563
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kryten said:


Lake Ontario Facebook song

(((Waves to kryten)))

😁😁😁😁😁😁
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Date: 31/08/2026 13:46:14
From: ms spock
ID: 2425564
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kryten said:


Lake Ontario Facebook song

What a Classic!

Thanks kryten!

Folks are just so marvellous!

They are just so witty, entertaining, creative, hilarious and so good at taking the piss!

Why can’t we use this to heal our world?

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Date: 31/08/2026 14:20:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 2425572
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-31/google-changes-us-maps-from-lake-ontario-to-lake-america/107097292

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Date: 31/08/2026 14:26:39
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2425573
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Hegseth Is Already Planning A Military Coup For The Midterms, And Here’s How He Does It

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhfMAfj4fgQ

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Date: 31/08/2026 14:38:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425577
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-31/google-changes-us-maps-from-lake-ontario-to-lake-america/107097292

kiss the sphincter

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Date: 31/08/2026 15:12:37
From: ms spock
ID: 2425582
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Republicans could stop this any day they wanted to do so.

It is madness.

roughbarked said:



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-31/google-changes-us-maps-from-lake-ontario-to-lake-america/107097292

And kryten supplied a much needed song, that we didn’t know we needed.

kryten said:


Lake Ontario Facebook song

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Date: 31/08/2026 15:13:08
From: Michael V
ID: 2425583
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Hegseth Is Already Planning A Military Coup For The Midterms, And Here’s How He Does It

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhfMAfj4fgQ

Maybe, maybe not.

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Date: 31/08/2026 15:22:51
From: Michael V
ID: 2425584
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-31/google-changes-us-maps-from-lake-ontario-to-lake-america/107097292

kiss the sphincter

Simple placating gesture, which can be reversed when DJT is gone. Not worth a fight.

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Date: 31/08/2026 15:58:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425586
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-31/google-changes-us-maps-from-lake-ontario-to-lake-america/107097292

kiss the sphincter

Simple placating gesture, which can be reversed when DJT is gone. Not worth a fight.

ah but

give them a Planck length and they’ll take a parsec

                — not attributed to Edwin Powell

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Date: 31/08/2026 16:34:13
From: ms spock
ID: 2425593
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-31/google-changes-us-maps-from-lake-ontario-to-lake-america/107097292

kiss the sphincter

Simple placating gesture, which can be reversed when DJT is gone. Not worth a fight.

It is strategically wise. He’s dangerous.

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Date: 31/08/2026 16:44:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2425596
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

kiss the sphincter

Simple placating gesture, which can be reversed when DJT is gone. Not worth a fight.

ah but

give them a Planck length and they’ll take a parsec

                — not attributed to Edwin Powell

:)

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Date: 31/08/2026 16:54:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2425597
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

kiss the sphincter

Simple placating gesture, which can be reversed when DJT is gone. Not worth a fight.

ah but

give them a Planck length and they’ll take a parsec

                — not attributed to Edwin Powell

Or Roger Braintree.

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Date: 31/08/2026 17:29:57
From: buffy
ID: 2425614
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

My sister has put up a thing on her Facebook from the Yorkshire Humour page:

After President Trump renamed Lake Ontario to Lake America, and The Gulf of Mexico to The Gulf of America whilst also hinting he may change the name of The Atlantic or Pacific Ocean to the American Ocean, Yorkshire’s mayors have been inspired and have got together to decide what changes to make over here.

The Pennines will officially become The Yorkshire Alps 🏔

Any area of the Pennines that is not actually in Yorkshire will just be considered the western slope of Yorkshire.
The Leeds and Liverpool Canal will be shortened to simply The Leeds Canal, after the mayors decided that mentioning Liverpool was unnecessary information 🤷‍♂️

Robin Hood’s Bay will be renamed Sean Bean’s Bastard Bay 🌊

Boston Spa will be renamed Leeds Spa. It’s in Leeds not Boston 🤨 An absolute no brainer that one.

The North Sea will become the Yorkshire Ocean.

And all KFC outlets in the region will have to be renamed Yorkshire Fried Chicken. It’s not fried in Kentucky is it? It’s fried here!

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Date: 31/08/2026 17:35:33
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2425617
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


My sister has put up a thing on her Facebook from the Yorkshire Humour page:

After President Trump renamed Lake Ontario to Lake America, and The Gulf of Mexico to The Gulf of America whilst also hinting he may change the name of The Atlantic or Pacific Ocean to the American Ocean, Yorkshire’s mayors have been inspired and have got together to decide what changes to make over here.

The Pennines will officially become The Yorkshire Alps 🏔

Any area of the Pennines that is not actually in Yorkshire will just be considered the western slope of Yorkshire.
The Leeds and Liverpool Canal will be shortened to simply The Leeds Canal, after the mayors decided that mentioning Liverpool was unnecessary information 🤷‍♂️

Robin Hood’s Bay will be renamed Sean Bean’s Bastard Bay 🌊

Boston Spa will be renamed Leeds Spa. It’s in Leeds not Boston 🤨 An absolute no brainer that one.

The North Sea will become the Yorkshire Ocean.

And all KFC outlets in the region will have to be renamed Yorkshire Fried Chicken. It’s not fried in Kentucky is it? It’s fried here!

In line with this, and in view of negativity about Qlders here:

NSW will henceforth be known as South Queensland.

Victoria will be known as Lesser Queensland.

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Date: 31/08/2026 18:00:48
From: ms spock
ID: 2425621
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

My sister has put up a thing on her Facebook from the Yorkshire Humour page:

After President Trump renamed Lake Ontario to Lake America, and The Gulf of Mexico to The Gulf of America whilst also hinting he may change the name of The Atlantic or Pacific Ocean to the American Ocean, Yorkshire’s mayors have been inspired and have got together to decide what changes to make over here.

The Pennines will officially become The Yorkshire Alps 🏔

Any area of the Pennines that is not actually in Yorkshire will just be considered the western slope of Yorkshire.
The Leeds and Liverpool Canal will be shortened to simply The Leeds Canal, after the mayors decided that mentioning Liverpool was unnecessary information 🤷‍♂️

Robin Hood’s Bay will be renamed Sean Bean’s Bastard Bay 🌊

Boston Spa will be renamed Leeds Spa. It’s in Leeds not Boston 🤨 An absolute no brainer that one.

The North Sea will become the Yorkshire Ocean.

And all KFC outlets in the region will have to be renamed Yorkshire Fried Chicken. It’s not fried in Kentucky is it? It’s fried here!

In line with this, and in view of negativity about Qlders here:

NSW will henceforth be known as South Queensland.

Victoria will be known as Lesser Queensland.

😂

Harsh but fair.

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Date: 31/08/2026 18:37:31
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2425629
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ops normal for those chimpanzee’s.

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Date: 31/08/2026 18:58:11
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2425633
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Ops normal for those chimpanzee’s.

Continental drift

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Date: 1/09/2026 08:21:38
From: ms spock
ID: 2425696
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

What the Media Misses About Trump’s Crashing Poll Numbers | That Trippi Show

Donald Trump’s polling has fallen sharply, including deep trouble with independent voters. So why does national political coverage continue treating the electoral map as largely fixed?

Joe Trippi explains why conventional assumptions about polarization, gerrymandering, and “safe” Republican territory may no longer capture what is happening. He examines weakening MAGA enthusiasm, economic pressure on Trump’s own coalition, widespread opposition to data centers, and the Argentine beef decision angering American ranchers.

0:00 What the political media is missing
3:36 Weakening enthusiasm inside Trump’s base
5:28 Data centers could scramble the map
9:29 Why conventional election models may fail
11:37 Trump’s Argentine beef backfire
13:52 Red-state races that could become competitive

Link

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Date: 1/09/2026 08:26:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 2425697
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Supreme Court has voted 5-4 in favour of allowing the White House to continue construction on a $558 million ballroom project.

The majority did not decide the legality of the project, but found a preservation group likely did not have the legal right to challenge it.
Link

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Date: 1/09/2026 12:27:31
From: dv
ID: 2425761
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Trump administration is shuttering ⁠two of the three US Department of Agriculture research projects studying cyclospora after the foodborne parasite has ⁠sickened tens of thousands of Americans during the summer, Politico reported on Sunday.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/30/usda-cyclospora-research-projects-shelved

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Date: 1/09/2026 12:37:33
From: kii
ID: 2425763
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


The Trump administration is shuttering ⁠two of the three US Department of Agriculture research projects studying cyclospora after the foodborne parasite has ⁠sickened tens of thousands of Americans during the summer, Politico reported on Sunday.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/30/usda-cyclospora-research-projects-shelved

Anxiety.

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Date: 1/09/2026 13:09:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425765
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:

The Trump administration is shuttering ⁠two of the three US Department of Agriculture research projects studying cyclospora after the foodborne parasite has ⁠sickened tens of thousands of Americans during the summer, Politico reported on Sunday.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/30/usda-cyclospora-research-projects-shelved

Anxiety.

but why do they need 3 of it

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Date: 1/09/2026 13:42:41
From: ms spock
ID: 2425769
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Please don’t get your hopes up.

Trump is minus 64 underwater for inflation.

Link

In the first couple of minutes.

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Date: 1/09/2026 15:10:56
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2425781
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


The Trump administration is shuttering ⁠two of the three US Department of Agriculture research projects studying cyclospora after the foodborne parasite has ⁠sickened tens of thousands of Americans during the summer, Politico reported on Sunday.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/30/usda-cyclospora-research-projects-shelved

Yeah, they don’t need sick people, get rid of them.

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Date: 1/09/2026 15:11:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2425782
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 1/09/2026 15:14:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2425783
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:



Heh.

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Date: 1/09/2026 16:45:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425799
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

Please don’t get your hopes up.

Trump is minus 64 underwater for inflation.

Link

In the first couple of minutes.

that’s how these team sports work isn’t it, elect some dudes, if the going is good then carry on, if it’s bad just demand change and shake up the party, doesn’t matter if the party got anything to do with it

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Date: 1/09/2026 20:32:18
From: party_pants
ID: 2425870
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Sometimes I wonder if the J on Donald J Trump stands for “Jabba”…

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Date: 1/09/2026 20:38:38
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2425873
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Sometimes I wonder if the J on Donald J Trump stands for “Jabba”…

To quote Homer Simson, “the J stands for genius!”

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Date: 1/09/2026 20:49:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2425874
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


party_pants said:

Sometimes I wonder if the J on Donald J Trump stands for “Jabba”…

To quote Homer Simson, “the J stands for genius!”

I thought it stood for ‘Jackass’.

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Date: 2/09/2026 01:30:28
From: dv
ID: 2425901
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Note that this is a satire account.

But also notice he posted this a year ago.

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Date: 2/09/2026 07:28:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425910
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Note that this is a satire account.

But also notice he posted this a year ago.

but if one wanted to find monkeys on typewriters one would find the ussa has the greatest number of them

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Date: 2/09/2026 12:28:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425994
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 2/09/2026 21:11:46
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2426125
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Occupy Democrats

BREAKING: “I DIDN’T UNDERSTAND THE BRUTALITY!” Milo Yiannopoulos speaks on his ICE ordeal and admits he dismissed other people’s trauma until detention left HIM terrified, humiliated and “physically degraded!”

Milo Yiannopoulos preached mass deportations to the heavens. Then he experienced the not-so-pleasant machinery of mass deportation himself.

The far-right provocateur, who once demanded that America deport “millions and millions and millions of people,” appeared on Piers Morgan after ICE detained him, shackled him and ultimately deported him to Britain.

And Milo sounds like a very different man.

“I don’t think I’ve ever been afraid before, like I was the last week,” Yiannopoulos said. “For the first time I know what it feels like to be really, really terrified.”

Then he described his big epiphany:

“I didn’t really understand the physical reality of how institutionalized the brutality is in America.”

Yiannopoulos said agents put his hands and feet in restraints and chained them together.

“They treat everybody who’s arrested like an MS-13 gang member,” he said. “And it hurts a lot more than it looks like on television.”

He described being shuffled between detention and correctional facilities, never knowing what was happening or where he was going.

“It was humiliating and it was disorientating,” he said. “It was physically degrading. It was frightening.”

There is enough irony here to power a small city.

Yiannopoulos enthusiastically supported Trump’s immigration crackdown and declared just last year: “We have got to deport millions and millions and millions of people. Without that, nothing else matters.”

But what makes his interview worth hearing isn’t the irony. It’s what happened when the cruelty he had treated as an abstraction became something happening to his own body.

Yiannopoulos said that after his release, a simple fall down some stairs triggered memories of being shoved down steps in custody. He found himself weeping for an hour.

Then came an admission you don’t often hear from someone who built a career out of mocking other people’s sensitivities.

“I think maybe in the past I’ve been a little bit blasé when people talked about their trauma, a little bit kind of cavalier when people talked about, you know, stuff kind of lingering with them,” he said.

“But I get it now. And I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.”

Millions of immigrants have spent years describing fear, humiliation and degrading treatment inside America’s detention system. Milo Yiannopoulos didn’t understand what they were telling him.

Then the handcuffs were on HIS wrists.

Now he gets it.

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Date: 2/09/2026 21:16:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2426128
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:

Occupy Democrats

BREAKING: “I DIDN’T UNDERSTAND THE BRUTALITY!” Milo Yiannopoulos speaks on his ICE ordeal and admits he dismissed other people’s trauma until detention left HIM terrified, humiliated and “physically degraded!”

Milo Yiannopoulos preached mass deportations to the heavens. Then he experienced the not-so-pleasant machinery of mass deportation himself.

The far-right provocateur, who once demanded that America deport “millions and millions and millions of people,” appeared on Piers Morgan after ICE detained him, shackled him and ultimately deported him to Britain.

And Milo sounds like a very different man.

“I don’t think I’ve ever been afraid before, like I was the last week,” Yiannopoulos said. “For the first time I know what it feels like to be really, really terrified.”

Then he described his big epiphany:

“I didn’t really understand the physical reality of how institutionalized the brutality is in America.”

Yiannopoulos said agents put his hands and feet in restraints and chained them together.

“They treat everybody who’s arrested like an MS-13 gang member,” he said. “And it hurts a lot more than it looks like on television.”

He described being shuffled between detention and correctional facilities, never knowing what was happening or where he was going.

“It was humiliating and it was disorientating,” he said. “It was physically degrading. It was frightening.”

There is enough irony here to power a small city.

Yiannopoulos enthusiastically supported Trump’s immigration crackdown and declared just last year: “We have got to deport millions and millions and millions of people. Without that, nothing else matters.”

But what makes his interview worth hearing isn’t the irony. It’s what happened when the cruelty he had treated as an abstraction became something happening to his own body.

Yiannopoulos said that after his release, a simple fall down some stairs triggered memories of being shoved down steps in custody. He found himself weeping for an hour.

Then came an admission you don’t often hear from someone who built a career out of mocking other people’s sensitivities.

“I think maybe in the past I’ve been a little bit blasé when people talked about their trauma, a little bit kind of cavalier when people talked about, you know, stuff kind of lingering with them,” he said.

“But I get it now. And I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.”

Millions of immigrants have spent years describing fear, humiliation and degrading treatment inside America’s detention system. Milo Yiannopoulos didn’t understand what they were telling him.

Then the handcuffs were on HIS wrists.

Now he gets it.

reads like 跟爱 but

Now he gets it.

does they really

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Date: 2/09/2026 21:30:48
From: party_pants
ID: 2426135
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Occupy Democrats

BREAKING: “I DIDN’T UNDERSTAND THE BRUTALITY!” Milo Yiannopoulos speaks on his ICE ordeal and admits he dismissed other people’s trauma until detention left HIM terrified, humiliated and “physically degraded!”

Milo Yiannopoulos preached mass deportations to the heavens. Then he experienced the not-so-pleasant machinery of mass deportation himself.

The far-right provocateur, who once demanded that America deport “millions and millions and millions of people,” appeared on Piers Morgan after ICE detained him, shackled him and ultimately deported him to Britain.

And Milo sounds like a very different man.

“I don’t think I’ve ever been afraid before, like I was the last week,” Yiannopoulos said. “For the first time I know what it feels like to be really, really terrified.”

Then he described his big epiphany:

“I didn’t really understand the physical reality of how institutionalized the brutality is in America.”

Yiannopoulos said agents put his hands and feet in restraints and chained them together.

“They treat everybody who’s arrested like an MS-13 gang member,” he said. “And it hurts a lot more than it looks like on television.”

He described being shuffled between detention and correctional facilities, never knowing what was happening or where he was going.

“It was humiliating and it was disorientating,” he said. “It was physically degrading. It was frightening.”

There is enough irony here to power a small city.

Yiannopoulos enthusiastically supported Trump’s immigration crackdown and declared just last year: “We have got to deport millions and millions and millions of people. Without that, nothing else matters.”

But what makes his interview worth hearing isn’t the irony. It’s what happened when the cruelty he had treated as an abstraction became something happening to his own body.

Yiannopoulos said that after his release, a simple fall down some stairs triggered memories of being shoved down steps in custody. He found himself weeping for an hour.

Then came an admission you don’t often hear from someone who built a career out of mocking other people’s sensitivities.

“I think maybe in the past I’ve been a little bit blasé when people talked about their trauma, a little bit kind of cavalier when people talked about, you know, stuff kind of lingering with them,” he said.

“But I get it now. And I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.”

Millions of immigrants have spent years describing fear, humiliation and degrading treatment inside America’s detention system. Milo Yiannopoulos didn’t understand what they were telling him.

Then the handcuffs were on HIS wrists.

Now he gets it.

ICE isn’t about immigration, that is just the training program. The real aim behind ICE is to have a loyal force outside of the regular police and military to intervene in the elections and seize ballot boxes and other machinery and declare the result their way.

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Date: 3/09/2026 18:19:38
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2426358
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Shitler telling the crowd that anyone going for the top job should have a cognition test, or the voters might end up with a moron.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoursTea/comments/1w5dav9/trump_mispronounces_cognitive_while_demanding/

The searing irony & hypocrisy of that can be seen from the Moon.

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Date: 3/09/2026 18:34:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2426363
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Shitler telling the crowd that anyone going for the top job should have a cognition test, or the voters might end up with a moron.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoursTea/comments/1w5dav9/trump_mispronounces_cognitive_while_demanding/

The searing irony & hypocrisy of that can be seen from the Moon.

It’s something that may have long-lasting effects.

Teachers or influencers, or even parents, may successfully convince children that anti-vaxxers are wrong, people really did go to the Moon, there’s no such thing as ‘chemtrails’, 5G does not alter your brain, and the Earth is not flat.

But, then, the kids learn that Trump was elected President of the US, and rampaged around doing nothing but harm, combined with theft on a grand scale, not just once but TWICE.

And there goes any credibility that parents or older people have. How could you believe such people when they tell you that 9/11 was not ‘an inside job’, when people of that/those same generation(s) put a primate in a suit in the Oval office, twice?

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Date: 3/09/2026 19:28:38
From: Michael V
ID: 2426378
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Shitler telling the crowd that anyone going for the top job should have a cognition test, or the voters might end up with a moron.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoursTea/comments/1w5dav9/trump_mispronounces_cognitive_while_demanding/

The searing irony & hypocrisy of that can be seen from the Moon.

But is it real?

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Date: 3/09/2026 19:34:48
From: party_pants
ID: 2426381
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Shitler telling the crowd that anyone going for the top job should have a cognition test, or the voters might end up with a moron.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoursTea/comments/1w5dav9/trump_mispronounces_cognitive_while_demanding/

The searing irony & hypocrisy of that can be seen from the Moon.

The stench of corruption and moral decay coming out of Washington these last few years is so bad that they might as well demolish the place and build a new capital somewhere else. To make a clean new start.

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Date: 3/09/2026 19:53:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2426393
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Spiny Norman said:

Shitler telling the crowd that anyone going for the top job should have a cognition test, or the voters might end up with a moron.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoursTea/comments/1w5dav9/trump_mispronounces_cognitive_while_demanding/

The searing irony & hypocrisy of that can be seen from the Moon.

The stench of corruption and moral decay coming out of Washington these last few years is so bad that they might as well demolish the place and build a new capital somewhere else. To make a clean new start.

why do that when you can have great allies like Australia suck up to it regardless

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Date: 3/09/2026 20:04:42
From: Woodie
ID: 2426397
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

All ready for “Wharfie Time”, Mr Panty Parts?

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Date: 3/09/2026 20:05:48
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2426398
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

NUTLICK: Data centers don’t use water. This is propaganda by our adversaries to try to slow us down. NUTLICK LAST YEAR: These AI things suck water. They need water.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Trumpvirus/comments/1w5r0tc/nutlick_data_centers_dont_use_water_this_is/

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Date: 3/09/2026 20:06:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2426400
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

wrap

alleged

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Date: 3/09/2026 20:06:51
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2426401
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

Shitler telling the crowd that anyone going for the top job should have a cognition test, or the voters might end up with a moron.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoursTea/comments/1w5dav9/trump_mispronounces_cognitive_while_demanding/

The searing irony & hypocrisy of that can be seen from the Moon.

But is it real?

Good point. It’s very difficult to tell these days.

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Date: 3/09/2026 21:31:03
From: ms spock
ID: 2426433
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Pete Hegseth is Promoting Trump’s Silent Coup (feat. David Cay Johnston)

Link

I really appreciate Prof David Cay Johnson.

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Date: 4/09/2026 08:40:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2426516
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Dutch central bank (DNB) has confirmed that billions of dollars in gold has been taken out of north America and relocated to London, citing “increasing geopolitical unrest”. DNB said on Wednesday that 86 tonnes of gold had been removed from the US and Canada in a complex operation that took several months. It is now being held by the Bank of England, where the precious metal can be traded more easily “in a crisis situation”.

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Date: 4/09/2026 08:48:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2426519
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

The Dutch central bank (DNB) has confirmed that billions of dollars in gold has been taken out of north America and relocated to London, citing “increasing geopolitical unrest”. DNB said on Wednesday that 86 tonnes of gold had been removed from the US and Canada in a complex operation that took several months. It is now being held by the Bank of England, where the precious metal can be traded more easily “in a crisis situation”.

A bit under 4.5 cubic metres? Good-oh.

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Date: 4/09/2026 16:05:14
From: ms spock
ID: 2426672
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

What happened to the three lawyers who stopped the count for George W Bush?

Link

2 minutes.

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Date: 4/09/2026 18:36:38
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2426724
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Protect the border! Sort the school lunches! Fill your kids’ Trump accounts!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/arcade/

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Date: 4/09/2026 19:10:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2426744
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

Protect the border! Sort the school lunches! Fill your kids’ Trump accounts!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/arcade/

was it fun

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Date: 4/09/2026 20:47:13
From: ms spock
ID: 2426780
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Face-Eating Leopard Eats ALL the Faces! | Joy-Ann Reid & Wajahat Ali

Link

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Date: 5/09/2026 07:22:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2426825
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

well you should, between this and renaming lake lake, there should be enough cover to hide the paedo philes for another month

wait

so what they’re saying is that what the judge possesses isn’t breaking the law

Sickos programming AI to depict children.

Content creators of AI sexuality depicted children, the online sex sites that distribute them and the pedos who downlad and watch the videos should all be jailed.

That model is similar to this model

Cigarette manufacturers, shops that sell, Cigarette smokers.

Supply, distribute, buyers.

A pattern of three.

oh right makes sense now so that’s why

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-04/former-monash-university-lecturer-child-abuse-material/107117212

australian elites just want to be another us navy base island in the asia pacific region

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Date: 5/09/2026 12:56:43
From: ms spock
ID: 2426921
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


ms spock said:

Please don’t get your hopes up.

Trump is minus 64 underwater for inflation.

Link

In the first couple of minutes.

that’s how these team sports work isn’t it, elect some dudes, if the going is good then carry on, if it’s bad just demand change and shake up the party, doesn’t matter if the party got anything to do with it

Hoping for the change.

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Date: 5/09/2026 13:05:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2426922
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

Please don’t get your hopes up.

Trump is minus 64 underwater for inflation.

Link

In the first couple of minutes.

that’s how these team sports work isn’t it, elect some dudes, if the going is good then carry on, if it’s bad just demand change and shake up the party, doesn’t matter if the party got anything to do with it

Hoping for the change.

for now perhaps but the obvious strategy is to just do so much damage it takes 2 terms to recover and then boom back in power on the second switch

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Date: 5/09/2026 23:33:41
From: kii
ID: 2427104
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Meanwhile in the USA…

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Date: 6/09/2026 02:51:15
From: dv
ID: 2427137
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Sontar-ha!

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Date: 6/09/2026 06:40:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 2427141
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Sontar-ha!

Argh! one cannot unsee that.

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Date: 6/09/2026 07:56:41
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2427146
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Geddry is feeling mischievous.

How can beautiful, tremendous, incredible, and nobody’s ever seen anything like it describe, with apparently equal precision, a building, an economy, a military strike, a hamburger, a commemorative coin and a White House helipad?

I’ve decided this deserves its own discipline. Call it Trumpology: the study of a rhetorical system in which words carry no information about the size, stakes, or category of the thing they’re describing, only about the impression the speaker wants the room to carry away.

Its founding subfield is Trumponomics:

Trumponomics (n.) – A school of economic reasoning in which macroeconomics is treated as an unusually large real-estate deal. Sovereign interest rates become a reward for being a “good credit.” Trade deficits are interpreted as money personally lost to the other side. Tariffs function alternately as revenue and punishment, whichever is rhetorically convenient in the moment. National prosperity can be negotiated much like the refinancing of a golf course.

Usage: “The strong jobs report produced a classic exercise in Trumponomics: because America is doing well, the Federal Reserve should apparently reward it with a cheaper loan.”

Trump is not just bad at economics in the way a person can just be bad at economics. He has one mental model, the personal deal, the personal ledger, who owes him and who’s cheating him, and he is applying it, without modification, to sovereign debt, monetary policy, and the GDP of the United States.

Before concluding this introductory lecture, one additional term is required:

Trumplexicon (n.) – The closed, surprisingly small set of adjectives and stock phrases, tremendous, beautiful, incredible, like never before, many people are saying, that substitutes for the broader range of English vocabulary regardless of subject, with cattle prices, nuclear weapons, a coin sale and a White House helipad all drawing from the same finite word-hoard.

The Trumplexicon may eventually prove foundational to the entire field. After all, if tremendous can describe both a hamburger and a military operation, the adjective is no longer telling us very much about either one.
Trumpology is a young discipline, but extremely well-funded with source material. Add your suggestions in the comments for the next glossary installment.

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Date: 6/09/2026 08:10:25
From: Michael V
ID: 2427155
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Geddry is feeling mischievous.

How can beautiful, tremendous, incredible, and nobody’s ever seen anything like it describe, with apparently equal precision, a building, an economy, a military strike, a hamburger, a commemorative coin and a White House helipad?

I’ve decided this deserves its own discipline. Call it Trumpology: the study of a rhetorical system in which words carry no information about the size, stakes, or category of the thing they’re describing, only about the impression the speaker wants the room to carry away.

Its founding subfield is Trumponomics:

Trumponomics (n.) – A school of economic reasoning in which macroeconomics is treated as an unusually large real-estate deal. Sovereign interest rates become a reward for being a “good credit.” Trade deficits are interpreted as money personally lost to the other side. Tariffs function alternately as revenue and punishment, whichever is rhetorically convenient in the moment. National prosperity can be negotiated much like the refinancing of a golf course.

Usage: “The strong jobs report produced a classic exercise in Trumponomics: because America is doing well, the Federal Reserve should apparently reward it with a cheaper loan.”

Trump is not just bad at economics in the way a person can just be bad at economics. He has one mental model, the personal deal, the personal ledger, who owes him and who’s cheating him, and he is applying it, without modification, to sovereign debt, monetary policy, and the GDP of the United States.

Before concluding this introductory lecture, one additional term is required:

Trumplexicon (n.) – The closed, surprisingly small set of adjectives and stock phrases, tremendous, beautiful, incredible, like never before, many people are saying, that substitutes for the broader range of English vocabulary regardless of subject, with cattle prices, nuclear weapons, a coin sale and a White House helipad all drawing from the same finite word-hoard.

The Trumplexicon may eventually prove foundational to the entire field. After all, if tremendous can describe both a hamburger and a military operation, the adjective is no longer telling us very much about either one.
Trumpology is a young discipline, but extremely well-funded with source material. Add your suggestions in the comments for the next glossary installment.

:)

Fair assessment.

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Date: 6/09/2026 08:15:18
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2427156
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

for those who may not know Geddry is Oregon Bay Area.

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Date: 6/09/2026 08:15:59
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2427157
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:

Trumplexicon (n.) – The closed, surprisingly small set of adjectives and stock phrases, tremendous, beautiful, incredible, like never before, many people are saying, that substitutes for the broader range of English vocabulary regardless of subject, with cattle prices, nuclear weapons, a coin sale and a White House helipad all drawing from the same finite word-hoard.

The Trumplexicon may eventually prove foundational to the entire field. After all, if tremendous can describe both a hamburger and a military operation, the adjective is no longer telling us very much about either one.
Trumpology is a young discipline, but extremely well-funded with source material. Add your suggestions in the comments for the next glossary installment.


He’d suck at Wordle, having the vocabulary of a doormat.

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Date: 7/09/2026 06:34:28
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2427330
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

President Donald Trump has already changed the name of the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario, and now he’s targeting a US state for a rebrand.

Trump is spending the holiday weekend dreaming up his next demand to relabel America’s geography. He posted a map on Truth Social Sunday afternoon of New Mexico, but the word Mexico was crossed out and replaced with America.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-name-change-state-mexico-b3045594.html

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Date: 7/09/2026 07:02:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427333
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

President Donald Trump has already changed the name of the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario, and now he’s targeting a US state for a rebrand.

Trump is spending the holiday weekend dreaming up his next demand to relabel America’s geography. He posted a map on Truth Social Sunday afternoon of New Mexico, but the word Mexico was crossed out and replaced with America.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-name-change-state-mexico-b3045594.html

good news nobody remembers about the paedo philes

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Date: 7/09/2026 09:33:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427354
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

if rates weren’t cut, he’d order a halt to trading with any country running a surplus with the US, a course of action that was even “better than tariffs”. Hard to imagine anything being better

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Date: 7/09/2026 11:25:59
From: dv
ID: 2427400
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Are we the baddies?

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Date: 7/09/2026 11:29:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 2427403
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Are we the baddies?

Looks very SS.

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Date: 7/09/2026 11:30:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427404
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

Are we the baddies?

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Date: 7/09/2026 11:43:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427410
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Are we the baddies?

Looks very SS.

nah even the great jewish anti defamation league told us that a right wing roman salute was simply unfortunate misunderstood autism, of course the great free ussa are good guys australia should be closely and inseparably allied to

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Date: 7/09/2026 11:47:23
From: Cymek
ID: 2427412
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Are we the baddies?


It’s based on Imperial officer garb by the looks of it.
Lots of force choking for kinks

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Date: 7/09/2026 11:51:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427414
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 7/09/2026 14:40:10
From: dv
ID: 2427455
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Are we the baddies?


It’s based on Imperial officer garb by the looks of it.
Lots of force choking for kinks

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Date: 7/09/2026 16:45:41
From: ms spock
ID: 2427502
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Forensic psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee returns for a new series of conversations entitled ‘The Nuclear Threat of Donald Trump’ and explains how the president’s dangerous psychopathy is a threat to the U.S. and entire world.

Link

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Date: 7/09/2026 18:44:05
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2427526
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Soz if repost. It’s a real post by everyone’s favourite insider trader pedo rapist.

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Date: 7/09/2026 18:50:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 2427528
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Soz if repost. It’s a real post by everyone’s favourite insider trader pedo rapist.

It’s a real post by everyone’s favourite insider trader pedo rapist. Liar.

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Date: 7/09/2026 20:19:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427544
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Soz if repost. It’s a real post by everyone’s favourite insider trader pedo rapist.

It’s a real post by everyone’s favourite insider trader pedo rapist. Liar.

but at least nobody is talking about Jeffrey Edward these days

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Date: 7/09/2026 22:12:44
From: kii
ID: 2427557
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

From Jay Kuo…

The White House posted this with the caption:

In brightest day, in blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight. Let those who worship evil’s might beware my power… Green Lantern’s light!

Because everyone is 12 or has dementia.

Link.

Lololol 😹 😹 😹

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Date: 7/09/2026 23:00:49
From: Neophyte
ID: 2427562
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


From Jay Kuo…

The White House posted this with the caption:

In brightest day, in blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight. Let those who worship evil’s might beware my power… Green Lantern’s light!

Because everyone is 12 or has dementia.

Link.

Lololol 😹 😹 😹

Trump never read a comic book in his life.

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Date: 7/09/2026 23:05:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427565
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:

kii said:

From Jay Kuo…

The White House posted this with the caption:

In brightest day, in blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight. Let those who worship evil’s might beware my power… Green Lantern’s light!

Because everyone is 12 or has dementia.

Link.

Lololol 😹 😹 😹

Trump never read a comic book in his life.

but that’s the beauty of great ussa isn’t it, vicarious greatness through teenage fiction

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Date: 7/09/2026 23:22:17
From: kii
ID: 2427567
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Link

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Date: 8/09/2026 12:02:24
From: kii
ID: 2427651
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ads on Netflix about “America the Beautiful”. Tourism. Heritage Foundation.

Creepy and icky.

https://www.heritage.org/press/heritage-kicks-america-the-beautiful-campaign

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Date: 8/09/2026 12:05:47
From: Cymek
ID: 2427655
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Ads on Netflix about “America the Beautiful”. Tourism. Heritage Foundation.

Creepy and icky.

https://www.heritage.org/press/heritage-kicks-america-the-beautiful-campaign

Yeah I’ve seen a few
Would you go to the USA as a tourist.
Would it be safe even if minding your own business

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Date: 8/09/2026 13:36:49
From: buffy
ID: 2427684
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

When I was driving home from doing the supermarketing, I heard a part of a news report about Trump announcing that Navy SEALS had done night time underwater mine removal in the Strait of Hormuz. Apart from the announcement, there seemed to be rather a lot of “not very much is known” going on. No-one seems to know if Iran is really mining the Strait or just using the uncertainty as a weapon. I didn’t hear if any ships have actually struck mines. I can’t find much about this. Have any of you lot seen this announcement about the magnificent abilities of the US armed forces?

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Date: 8/09/2026 13:41:07
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2427685
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


When I was driving home from doing the supermarketing, I heard a part of a news report about Trump announcing that Navy SEALS had done night time underwater mine removal in the Strait of Hormuz. Apart from the announcement, there seemed to be rather a lot of “not very much is known” going on. No-one seems to know if Iran is really mining the Strait or just using the uncertainty as a weapon. I didn’t hear if any ships have actually struck mines. I can’t find much about this. Have any of you lot seen this announcement about the magnificent abilities of the US armed forces?

Not since they landed in Normandy and beat Germany single handed.

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Date: 8/09/2026 14:17:15
From: buffy
ID: 2427695
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

When I was driving home from doing the supermarketing, I heard a part of a news report about Trump announcing that Navy SEALS had done night time underwater mine removal in the Strait of Hormuz. Apart from the announcement, there seemed to be rather a lot of “not very much is known” going on. No-one seems to know if Iran is really mining the Strait or just using the uncertainty as a weapon. I didn’t hear if any ships have actually struck mines. I can’t find much about this. Have any of you lot seen this announcement about the magnificent abilities of the US armed forces?

Not since they landed in Normandy and beat Germany single handed.

Have you been watching SBS documentaries from the USA?

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Date: 8/09/2026 15:47:00
From: dv
ID: 2427718
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Soitanly

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Date: 8/09/2026 18:30:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2427761
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Soitanly

Shopped.

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Date: 8/09/2026 18:33:34
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2427764
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 8/09/2026 18:42:00
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2427766
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:



It’s like Trump and his band of anacephalic appointees believe that the whole world is created anew every morning.

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Date: 9/09/2026 00:04:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427812
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:


It’s like Trump and his band of anacephalic appointees believe that the whole world is created anew every morning.

and 300000000 americese lap it up nonetheless

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Date: 9/09/2026 13:10:21
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2427982
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Official White House account just posted this video.

It is real. They include the hey listen bit when you click share, which I’ve never seen before, but also this is my first time hitting the share button on there. So you know they realize what music they’re using. Pretty sure that music is actively copyrighted and this doesn’t have a great use case argument. Hopefully Nintendo sues.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Trumpvirus/comments/1wb6w1h/official_white_house_account_just_posted_this/

FFS ….

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Date: 9/09/2026 14:08:47
From: kii
ID: 2428012
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

From US Department of Shitposting’s Facebook page…

Fun fact of the day: New Mexico is the only US state to have “USA” on its license plates beside the state name, because there are too many stupid people (including many cops) who don’t realize that New Mexico is a US state…

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Date: 9/09/2026 14:20:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428013
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


From US Department of Shitposting’s Facebook page…

Fun fact of the day: New Mexico is the only US state to have “USA” on its license plates beside the state name, because there are too many stupid people (including many cops) who don’t realize that New Mexico is a US state…

well they should secede

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Date: 9/09/2026 14:21:22
From: Michael V
ID: 2428015
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


From US Department of Shitposting’s Facebook page…

Fun fact of the day: New Mexico is the only US state to have “USA” on its license plates beside the state name, because there are too many stupid people (including many cops) who don’t realize that New Mexico is a US state…

You know how confusing it all gets, don’t you, right? I used to live in a region of a land mass that was once called “New Holland”. The region is “New England”, and that region is contained in a state called “New South Wales”.

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Date: 9/09/2026 14:56:12
From: kii
ID: 2428018
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

From US Department of Shitposting’s Facebook page…

Fun fact of the day: New Mexico is the only US state to have “USA” on its license plates beside the state name, because there are too many stupid people (including many cops) who don’t realize that New Mexico is a US state…

You know how confusing it all gets, don’t you, right? I used to live in a region of a land mass that was once called “New Holland”. The region is “New England”, and that region is contained in a state called “New South Wales”.

Good point!
When Americans asked me where I was from I never said I was from NSW I always said Sydney., after clarifying that I was Australian and not English.

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Date: 9/09/2026 15:05:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2428020
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Michael V said:

kii said:

From US Department of Shitposting’s Facebook page…

Fun fact of the day: New Mexico is the only US state to have “USA” on its license plates beside the state name, because there are too many stupid people (including many cops) who don’t realize that New Mexico is a US state…

You know how confusing it all gets, don’t you, right? I used to live in a region of a land mass that was once called “New Holland”. The region is “New England”, and that region is contained in a state called “New South Wales”.

Good point!
When Americans asked me where I was from I never said I was from NSW I always said Sydney., after clarifying that I was Australian and not English.

When people in the US asked where I was from, and I said “Australia”, I was often complimented about how well I spoke English, and with such a slight accent that I was easy to understand. I suspect they thought I came from Austria, and should have sounded like Arnie S. (This was ten-odd years before he was Governor of California.)

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Date: 9/09/2026 15:33:25
From: Michael V
ID: 2428026
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-09/iceland-condemns-donald-trump-us-territory-map/107132012

Bruddy-eck!

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Date: 9/09/2026 15:39:53
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2428030
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-09/iceland-condemns-donald-trump-us-territory-map/107132012

Bruddy-eck!

Just another attempt at Shitler trying to distract from the fact that he’s a child rapist in the Epstein files.

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Date: 9/09/2026 16:31:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428052
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-09/iceland-condemns-donald-trump-us-territory-map/107132012

Bruddy-eck!

shrug it’s not like anyone pushed back on the shihituanhsien so shrug

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Date: 9/09/2026 23:37:18
From: dv
ID: 2428157
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://youtu.be/gbYxWzEb3zA?si=uvCJIL7bm86mJSok

TLDR
US trade deficit reaches record levels, despite or perhaps because of tariffs

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Date: 10/09/2026 12:46:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428254
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

https://youtu.be/gbYxWzEb3zA?si=uvCJIL7bm86mJSok

TLDR
US trade deficit reaches record levels, despite or perhaps because of tariffs

alleged

that’ll help pay things off

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Date: 10/09/2026 13:30:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 2428260
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

https://youtu.be/gbYxWzEb3zA?si=uvCJIL7bm86mJSok

TLDR
US trade deficit reaches record levels, despite or perhaps because of tariffs

alleged

that’ll help pay things off

The loose screws are falling out.

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Date: 10/09/2026 13:34:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428262
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

https://youtu.be/gbYxWzEb3zA?si=uvCJIL7bm86mJSok

TLDR
US trade deficit reaches record levels, despite or perhaps because of tariffs

alleged

that’ll help pay things off

The loose screws are falling out.

pretty sure it’s faked just fun

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Date: 10/09/2026 13:36:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 2428264
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

https://youtu.be/gbYxWzEb3zA?si=uvCJIL7bm86mJSok

TLDR
US trade deficit reaches record levels, despite or perhaps because of tariffs

alleged

that’ll help pay things off

The loose screws are falling out.

I see Donald is Buying Votes again. Openly this time.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-10/donald-trump-republican-national-convention-dallas-texas/107136916

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Date: 10/09/2026 13:37:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428266
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

that’ll help pay things off

The loose screws are falling out.

I see Donald is Buying Votes again. Openly this time.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-10/donald-trump-republican-national-convention-dallas-texas/107136916

communism

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Date: 10/09/2026 17:11:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428317
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 10/09/2026 17:11:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428318
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged


sorry about repost, fixed below

also hilarious we guess, in its own way

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Date: 10/09/2026 17:13:22
From: dv
ID: 2428319
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 10/09/2026 17:17:47
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2428320
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



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Date: 10/09/2026 17:46:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428330
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

hilarious we guess, in its own way

alleged

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Date: 10/09/2026 17:55:03
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2428332
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

55 days until the midterms

The Dems hold an about a 7 point advantage in the generic ballot which has them as favourites to take the house and it’s looking like is’s about 50:50 on taking the senate.

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Date: 10/09/2026 17:58:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2428334
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:

55 days until the midterms

The Dems hold an about a 7 point advantage in the generic ballot which has them as favourites to take the house and it’s looking like is’s about 50:50 on taking the senate.

Will they then be able to take Trump for that final trip to the vet?

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Date: 10/09/2026 18:04:38
From: ms spock
ID: 2428338
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

that’ll help pay things off

The loose screws are falling out.

I see Donald is Buying Votes again. Openly this time.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-10/donald-trump-republican-national-convention-dallas-texas/107136916

Honesty is the best policy.

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Date: 10/09/2026 18:09:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2428340
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bubblecar said:


diddly-squat said:

55 days until the midterms

The Dems hold an about a 7 point advantage in the generic ballot which has them as favourites to take the house and it’s looking like is’s about 50:50 on taking the senate.

Will they then be able to take Trump for that final trip to the vet?

Rainbow bridge.

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Date: 10/09/2026 18:09:31
From: ms spock
ID: 2428341
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

hilarious we guess, in its own way

alleged

They gave Musk $40 billion dollars of taxpayers money. Get him to give it back.

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Date: 10/09/2026 18:16:47
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2428346
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

hilarious we guess, in its own way

alleged

They gave Musk $40 billion dollars of taxpayers money. Get him to give it back.

He ate it for breakfast.

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Date: 10/09/2026 18:27:39
From: Michael V
ID: 2428355
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

The loose screws are falling out.

I see Donald is Buying Votes again. Openly this time.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-10/donald-trump-republican-national-convention-dallas-texas/107136916

Honesty is the best policy.

Gourd!

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Date: 10/09/2026 18:41:32
From: ms spock
ID: 2428359
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


ms spock said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

They gave Musk $40 billion dollars of taxpayers money. Get him to give it back.

He ate it for breakfast.

He is a bottomless pit of desperate neediness and evil.

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Date: 10/09/2026 18:43:56
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2428360
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

I see Donald is Buying Votes again. Openly this time.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-10/donald-trump-republican-national-convention-dallas-texas/107136916

Honesty is the best policy.

Gourd!

Let’s see
5000 x adult population of US = doh (carry the one) its a lot.

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Date: 10/09/2026 18:48:42
From: ms spock
ID: 2428362
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

I see Donald is Buying Votes again. Openly this time.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-10/donald-trump-republican-national-convention-dallas-texas/107136916

Honesty is the best policy.

Gourd!

Gourd indeed!

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Date: 10/09/2026 18:59:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2428365
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

hilarious we guess, in its own way

alleged

They gave Musk $40 billion dollars of taxpayers money. Get him to give it back.

Not much different to the Great Barrier Reef “Saviour Company” half billion dollars grant. Was that Abbott to some mates with no experience?

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Date: 10/09/2026 18:59:57
From: ms spock
ID: 2428366
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged


What poor nurse did that in a panic? How stressed were they? Their stress levels would be so high!

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Date: 10/09/2026 19:00:35
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2428368
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

ms spock said:

Honesty is the best policy.

Gourd!

Let’s see
5000 x adult population of US = doh (carry the one) its a lot.

1.3 trillion dollars.
Not that it matters as they’ll never ever see the money.

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Date: 10/09/2026 19:05:46
From: ms spock
ID: 2428372
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

They gave Musk $40 billion dollars of taxpayers money. Get him to give it back.

Not much different to the Great Barrier Reef “Saviour Company” half billion dollars grant. Was that Abbott to some mates with no experience?

That was disgusting! I remember being angry and frustrated.

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Date: 10/09/2026 19:09:50
From: Michael V
ID: 2428376
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Gourd!

Let’s see
5000 x adult population of US = doh (carry the one) its a lot.

1.3 trillion dollars.
Not that it matters as they’ll never ever see the money.

Of course they will!

The Runny Dump never lies!

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Date: 10/09/2026 19:24:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428384
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

Michael V said:

ms spock said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

ms spock said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

ms spock said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

I see Donald is Buying Votes again. Openly this time.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-10/donald-trump-republican-national-convention-dallas-texas/107136916

Honesty is the best policy.

Gourd!

Let’s see
5000 x adult population of US = doh (carry the one) its a lot.

Gourd indeed!

1.3 trillion dollars.
Not that it matters as they’ll never ever see the money.

Of course they will!

The Runny Dump never lies!

alleged

They gave Musk $40 billion dollars of taxpayers money. Get him to give it back.

He ate it for breakfast.

He is a bottomless pit of desperate neediness and evil.

Not much different to the Great Barrier Reef “Saviour Company” half billion dollars grant. Was that Abbott to some mates with no experience?

That was disgusting! I remember being angry and frustrated.

all that but let us get this straight

so $5000 to every election 2 year halfcycle is greatness

but $2500 a year for every school student is communism and it should never happen

shithole country

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Date: 10/09/2026 20:15:38
From: ms spock
ID: 2428402
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

Michael V said:

Not much different to the Great Barrier Reef “Saviour Company” half billion dollars grant. Was that Abbott to some mates with no experience?

That was disgusting! I remember being angry and frustrated.

all that but let us get this straight

so $5000 to every election 2 year halfcycle is greatness

but $2500 a year for every school student is communism and it should never happen

shithole country

So sad! 😭

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Date: 10/09/2026 20:23:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428409
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

That was disgusting! I remember being angry and frustrated.

all that but let us get this straight

so $5000 to every adult every election 2 year halfcycle is greatness

but $2500 a year for every school student is communism and it should never happen

shithole country

So sad! 😭

sorry about our accidental delete, fixed

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Date: 11/09/2026 11:19:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2428525
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 11/09/2026 21:11:51
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2428754
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Presidents have always left their mark on the White House. Harry Truman rebuilt it from the inside out. John F. Kennedy restored its elegance. Jimmy Carter installed solar panels… then Ronald Reagan removed them. By that standard, Donald Trump’s plan to build a grand ballroom isn’t all that unusual. In fact, it’s something he’s talked about for years. The real story isn’t the renovation, it’s the reaction.

After years of fuelling conspiracy theories about Washington elites and corruption, Trump has created an audience primed to question everything. So when he announces his biggest White House project yet, many of his own supporters assume there’s far more to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUxdsySDsUw

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Date: 11/09/2026 23:44:49
From: kii
ID: 2428807
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

He. Is. Insane.

I saw part of this speech. The women in the background were ridiculous.

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Date: 12/09/2026 11:20:20
From: dv
ID: 2428904
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I’m tired of all these rumours that Donald doesn’t sleep with Melania any more, just look at this

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Date: 12/09/2026 11:29:41
From: Michael V
ID: 2428907
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


I’m tired of all these rumours that Donald doesn’t sleep with Melania any more, just look at this


LOLOL

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Date: 12/09/2026 11:53:55
From: dv
ID: 2428912
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 12/09/2026 11:58:26
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2428913
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



I’d forgotten about that.

Some background from TATE’s_Chile

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Date: 12/09/2026 12:11:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428916
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:


I’d forgotten about that.

Some background from TATE’s_Chile

^

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Date: 13/09/2026 10:23:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2429162
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The bastard wants to unite Ireland now,
shakes fist

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Date: 13/09/2026 10:26:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 2429163
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


The bastard wants to unite Ireland now,
shakes fist

I’m not quite sure WTF he means. Resonably sure he doesn’t either.

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Date: 13/09/2026 10:37:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2429167
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


The bastard wants to unite Ireland now,
shakes fist

He probably doesn’t know what a good friday accord is.

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Date: 13/09/2026 15:17:20
From: dv
ID: 2429214
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

PWM is right, it’s pretty weird for an orange man to want a united Ireland.

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Date: 13/09/2026 15:33:01
From: dv
ID: 2429215
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/08/former-lab-analyst-sentenced-manipulating-dna

A judge sentenced a former forensic analyst for the Colorado bureau of investigation to 10 years in prison on Tuesday after authorities said her manipulation of DNA data had raised questions about the validity of hundreds of criminal cases.

Yvonne “Missy” Woods pleaded guilty in June to perjury, attempting to influence a public servant, forgery and committing a cybercrime. Dozens of other counts were dismissed as part of a plea agreement.

Problems with the scientist’s work were found in cases involving homicide, sexual assault, robbery and other crimes, according to authorities. Prosecutors were forced to review hundreds of cases, and at least one murder conviction was overturned as a result of Woods’s misconduct.

Woods had faced between eight and 16 years in prison during Tuesday’s sentencing hearing before state district judge Andrew Poland in Golden, Colorado.

She resigned in 2023 after a decades-long career. Authorities accused her of altering data to conceal tampering, deleting data that showed she failed to troubleshoot issues within the testing process and not thoroughly documenting tests performed in case records.

Woods apologized during Tuesday’s hearing but said she knew saying sorry would not undo the harm she caused, the Denver Post reported.

“For many years I was entrusted with evidence that could have profound consequences for defendants, victims, families and the courts. I failed that responsibility. I am deeply sorry for that failure,” she said.

The investigation into her misconduct began in September 2023 after an intern at the bureau discovered missing information in a case that Woods handled in 2018. According to an arrest affidavit, Woods allegedly told investigators at one point that she had changed data to complete cases more quickly.

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Date: 13/09/2026 16:05:45
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2429219
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Netherlands Just Pulled 86 Tons of Gold Out of America

The Netherlands just physically moved 86 tons of gold out of the United States and Canada, calling it a hedge against “extreme systemic risks.” France already cleared every ounce of its gold out of New York. Germany is debating whether to follow. This is not a routine portfolio adjustment. This is a vote of no confidence, cast in metal.

According to Axios, the Netherlands relocated 86 tons of gold last week, citing concerns about extreme systemic risks connected to keeping reserves parked in the US. That is not the kind of language a country uses when everything is fine. That is the language of a government that looked at the situation, ran the numbers, and decided the floor might not hold.

France did not wait for the debate. It already moved all of its gold out of New York. Germany, one of the world’s largest holders of gold reserves, is now actively discussing whether to do the same. Norway’s sovereign wealth fund, the single largest in the world, has announced plans of its own, though Axios’s reporting notes those details are still developing.

These are not small, nervous countries making panicked decisions. These are stable, wealthy, sophisticated economies with serious finance ministries and long institutional memories. When they start pulling physical gold out of American vaults, the question is not whether something has changed. The question is how much.

https://thedingodaily.com/news/article/2026-09-12-netherlands-pulls-86-tons-gold-out-of-america

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Date: 13/09/2026 16:09:22
From: buffy
ID: 2429221
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Netherlands Just Pulled 86 Tons of Gold Out of America

The Netherlands just physically moved 86 tons of gold out of the United States and Canada, calling it a hedge against “extreme systemic risks.” France already cleared every ounce of its gold out of New York. Germany is debating whether to follow. This is not a routine portfolio adjustment. This is a vote of no confidence, cast in metal.

According to Axios, the Netherlands relocated 86 tons of gold last week, citing concerns about extreme systemic risks connected to keeping reserves parked in the US. That is not the kind of language a country uses when everything is fine. That is the language of a government that looked at the situation, ran the numbers, and decided the floor might not hold.

France did not wait for the debate. It already moved all of its gold out of New York. Germany, one of the world’s largest holders of gold reserves, is now actively discussing whether to do the same. Norway’s sovereign wealth fund, the single largest in the world, has announced plans of its own, though Axios’s reporting notes those details are still developing.

These are not small, nervous countries making panicked decisions. These are stable, wealthy, sophisticated economies with serious finance ministries and long institutional memories. When they start pulling physical gold out of American vaults, the question is not whether something has changed. The question is how much.

https://thedingodaily.com/news/article/2026-09-12-netherlands-pulls-86-tons-gold-out-of-america

I remember reading about that in the ABC news earlier in the week.

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Date: 13/09/2026 16:16:01
From: party_pants
ID: 2429225
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Netherlands Just Pulled 86 Tons of Gold Out of America

The Netherlands just physically moved 86 tons of gold out of the United States and Canada, calling it a hedge against “extreme systemic risks.” France already cleared every ounce of its gold out of New York. Germany is debating whether to follow. This is not a routine portfolio adjustment. This is a vote of no confidence, cast in metal.

According to Axios, the Netherlands relocated 86 tons of gold last week, citing concerns about extreme systemic risks connected to keeping reserves parked in the US. That is not the kind of language a country uses when everything is fine. That is the language of a government that looked at the situation, ran the numbers, and decided the floor might not hold.

France did not wait for the debate. It already moved all of its gold out of New York. Germany, one of the world’s largest holders of gold reserves, is now actively discussing whether to do the same. Norway’s sovereign wealth fund, the single largest in the world, has announced plans of its own, though Axios’s reporting notes those details are still developing.

These are not small, nervous countries making panicked decisions. These are stable, wealthy, sophisticated economies with serious finance ministries and long institutional memories. When they start pulling physical gold out of American vaults, the question is not whether something has changed. The question is how much.

https://thedingodaily.com/news/article/2026-09-12-netherlands-pulls-86-tons-gold-out-of-america

Yeah, I heard about that earlier. Seems only a handful of places around the world store large amounts of gold, London and Singapore being others.

It got me to thinking this is something maybe Australia could be good at. We’re a long way away from most of the world’s trouble-spots. I also learned that most of Australia’s gold reserves are physically held in London.

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Date: 13/09/2026 16:17:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2429226
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Spiny Norman said:

Netherlands Just Pulled 86 Tons of Gold Out of America

The Netherlands just physically moved 86 tons of gold out of the United States and Canada, calling it a hedge against “extreme systemic risks.” France already cleared every ounce of its gold out of New York. Germany is debating whether to follow. This is not a routine portfolio adjustment. This is a vote of no confidence, cast in metal.

According to Axios, the Netherlands relocated 86 tons of gold last week, citing concerns about extreme systemic risks connected to keeping reserves parked in the US. That is not the kind of language a country uses when everything is fine. That is the language of a government that looked at the situation, ran the numbers, and decided the floor might not hold.

France did not wait for the debate. It already moved all of its gold out of New York. Germany, one of the world’s largest holders of gold reserves, is now actively discussing whether to do the same. Norway’s sovereign wealth fund, the single largest in the world, has announced plans of its own, though Axios’s reporting notes those details are still developing.

These are not small, nervous countries making panicked decisions. These are stable, wealthy, sophisticated economies with serious finance ministries and long institutional memories. When they start pulling physical gold out of American vaults, the question is not whether something has changed. The question is how much.

https://thedingodaily.com/news/article/2026-09-12-netherlands-pulls-86-tons-gold-out-of-america

Yeah, I heard about that earlier. Seems only a handful of places around the world store large amounts of gold, London and Singapore being others.

It got me to thinking this is something maybe Australia could be good at. We’re a long way away from most of the world’s trouble-spots. I also learned that most of Australia’s gold reserves are physically held in London.

Our economy seems to be at the mercy of the US stock exchange, so maybe not.

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Date: 13/09/2026 16:26:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2429228
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Spiny Norman said:

Netherlands Just Pulled 86 Tons of Gold Out of America

The Netherlands just physically moved 86 tons of gold out of the United States and Canada, calling it a hedge against “extreme systemic risks.” France already cleared every ounce of its gold out of New York. Germany is debating whether to follow. This is not a routine portfolio adjustment. This is a vote of no confidence, cast in metal.

According to Axios, the Netherlands relocated 86 tons of gold last week, citing concerns about extreme systemic risks connected to keeping reserves parked in the US. That is not the kind of language a country uses when everything is fine. That is the language of a government that looked at the situation, ran the numbers, and decided the floor might not hold.

France did not wait for the debate. It already moved all of its gold out of New York. Germany, one of the world’s largest holders of gold reserves, is now actively discussing whether to do the same. Norway’s sovereign wealth fund, the single largest in the world, has announced plans of its own, though Axios’s reporting notes those details are still developing.

These are not small, nervous countries making panicked decisions. These are stable, wealthy, sophisticated economies with serious finance ministries and long institutional memories. When they start pulling physical gold out of American vaults, the question is not whether something has changed. The question is how much.

https://thedingodaily.com/news/article/2026-09-12-netherlands-pulls-86-tons-gold-out-of-america

Yeah, I heard about that earlier. Seems only a handful of places around the world store large amounts of gold, London and Singapore being others.

It got me to thinking this is something maybe Australia could be good at. We’re a long way away from most of the world’s trouble-spots. I also learned that most of Australia’s gold reserves are physically held in London.

Our economy seems to be at the mercy of the US stock exchange, so maybe not.

because 15000000 Australians love this and it’s important to be a fixed position USSA aircraft carrier in the region

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Date: 13/09/2026 16:28:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 2429229
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Yeah, I heard about that earlier. Seems only a handful of places around the world store large amounts of gold, London and Singapore being others.

It got me to thinking this is something maybe Australia could be good at. We’re a long way away from most of the world’s trouble-spots. I also learned that most of Australia’s gold reserves are physically held in London.

Our economy seems to be at the mercy of the US stock exchange, so maybe not.

because 15000000 Australians love this and it’s important to be a fixed position USSA aircraft carrier in the region

But now we are up against BRICS.

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Date: 13/09/2026 16:29:55
From: party_pants
ID: 2429231
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Our economy seems to be at the mercy of the US stock exchange, so maybe not.

because 15000000 Australians love this and it’s important to be a fixed position USSA aircraft carrier in the region

But now we are up against BRICS.

We should probably join their new international payments system.

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Date: 13/09/2026 16:41:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 2429237
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

because 15000000 Australians love this and it’s important to be a fixed position USSA aircraft carrier in the region

But now we are up against BRICS.

We should probably join their new international payments system.

Maybe.

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Date: 13/09/2026 17:17:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2429248
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Our economy seems to be at the mercy of the US stock exchange, so maybe not.

because 15000000 Australians love this and it’s important to be a fixed position USSA aircraft carrier in the region

But now we are up against BRICS.

why when it could be BRICAS and we could cooperate

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Date: 13/09/2026 18:32:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 2429268
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

because 15000000 Australians love this and it’s important to be a fixed position USSA aircraft carrier in the region

But now we are up against BRICS.

why when it could be BRICAS and we could cooperate

Maybe.

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Date: 13/09/2026 21:48:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2429312
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged nonsheep


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Date: 13/09/2026 22:12:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2429316
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged nonsheep


Trump fans thinking Canada is “unfriendly” I can understand, but the pro-Putin swing is just weird.

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Date: 14/09/2026 01:05:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2429346
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 14/09/2026 18:24:56
From: dv
ID: 2429634
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16127415/US-secretly-American-diplomat-UK-child-abuse.html

US secretly flew American diplomat out of UK without telling British police after he was found with child abuse images in dawn raid

The former US serviceman, who was working at the American Embassy in Nine Elms, south London, was allegedly taken from his flat in Putney after a dawn raid on August 25.

Sources claim US officials discovered child abuse images at the property after they launched an investigation into the man’s brother, who is based in America and is accused of sending abusive material to the diplomat.

—

What

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Date: 14/09/2026 18:29:59
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2429640
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16127415/US-secretly-American-diplomat-UK-child-abuse.html

US secretly flew American diplomat out of UK without telling British police after he was found with child abuse images in dawn raid

The former US serviceman, who was working at the American Embassy in Nine Elms, south London, was allegedly taken from his flat in Putney after a dawn raid on August 25.

Sources claim US officials discovered child abuse images at the property after they launched an investigation into the man’s brother, who is based in America and is accused of sending abusive material to the diplomat.

—

What

That’s baffling alright.

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Date: 14/09/2026 18:37:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2429641
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16127415/US-secretly-American-diplomat-UK-child-abuse.html

US secretly flew American diplomat out of UK without telling British police after he was found with child abuse images in dawn raid

The former US serviceman, who was working at the American Embassy in Nine Elms, south London, was allegedly taken from his flat in Putney after a dawn raid on August 25.

Sources claim US officials discovered child abuse images at the property after they launched an investigation into the man’s brother, who is based in America and is accused of sending abusive material to the diplomat.

—

What

That’s baffling alright.

we mean USUKAU and all but they want to cleave off NI to break the UK so why not violate their law enforcement sovereignty as well, if you can steal a Maduro you can steal a paedophile and bring him back to the country where that kind of thing belongs

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Date: 14/09/2026 19:05:50
From: Michael V
ID: 2429650
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16127415/US-secretly-American-diplomat-UK-child-abuse.html

US secretly flew American diplomat out of UK without telling British police after he was found with child abuse images in dawn raid

The former US serviceman, who was working at the American Embassy in Nine Elms, south London, was allegedly taken from his flat in Putney after a dawn raid on August 25.

Sources claim US officials discovered child abuse images at the property after they launched an investigation into the man’s brother, who is based in America and is accused of sending abusive material to the diplomat.

—

What

That’s baffling alright.

we mean USUKAU and all but they want to cleave off NI to break the UK so why not violate their law enforcement sovereignty as well, if you can steal a Maduro you can steal a paedophile and bring him back to the country where that kind of thing belongs

LOL

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Date: 14/09/2026 20:45:18
From: dv
ID: 2429661
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

Peak Warming Man said:

That’s baffling alright.

we mean USUKAU and all but they want to cleave off NI to break the UK so why not violate their law enforcement sovereignty as well, if you can steal a Maduro you can steal a paedophile and bring him back to the country where that kind of thing belongs

LOL

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Date: 14/09/2026 21:13:48
From: buffy
ID: 2429665
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

we mean USUKAU and all but they want to cleave off NI to break the UK so why not violate their law enforcement sovereignty as well, if you can steal a Maduro you can steal a paedophile and bring him back to the country where that kind of thing belongs

LOL


That clip is just as funny as it was originally.

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Date: 14/09/2026 21:16:16
From: dv
ID: 2429666
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Mitch is due to return to the Senate today.

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Date: 14/09/2026 21:17:52
From: party_pants
ID: 2429667
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Mitch is due to return to the Senate today.

Starc, Johnson or Marsh?

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Date: 14/09/2026 21:35:07
From: buffy
ID: 2429671
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Mitch is due to return to the Senate today.

I thought the Senate had already returned (and was just lying low again) but apparently I had that wrong.

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Date: 14/09/2026 22:29:17
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2429681
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

FFS …..

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Date: 14/09/2026 22:30:22
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2429682
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


FFS …..

Apologies, it’s from a satire site.

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Date: 14/09/2026 22:34:43
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2429683
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


FFS …..

“DONG PAC satire” refers to a label or watermark found on a viral, satirical image circulating on social media. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/temtalk/posts/2252924861918098/), (https://www.facebook.com/thephoenixcircle/posts/who-did-this-i-mean-its-definitely-possible-though/1104995715777469/)
What the Image Shows
The image features a man with a large face tattoo of Donald Trump and a MAGA hat.A accompanying caption jokingly claims he was rejected for a job interview because he wore his MAGA hat outside the building.
Commenters online point out that the extreme facial tattoo—not just the hat—makes the image a joke or AI-generated satire.The watermark “DONG PAC satire” explicitly marks the image as a satirical piece rather than a real news story.

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Date: 14/09/2026 22:43:25
From: Kingy
ID: 2429686
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Spiny Norman said:

FFS …..

“DONG PAC satire” refers to a label or watermark found on a viral, satirical image circulating on social media. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/temtalk/posts/2252924861918098/), (https://www.facebook.com/thephoenixcircle/posts/who-did-this-i-mean-its-definitely-possible-though/1104995715777469/)
What the Image Shows
The image features a man with a large face tattoo of Donald Trump and a MAGA hat.A accompanying caption jokingly claims he was rejected for a job interview because he wore his MAGA hat outside the building.
Commenters online point out that the extreme facial tattoo—not just the hat—makes the image a joke or AI-generated satire.The watermark “DONG PAC satire” explicitly marks the image as a satirical piece rather than a real news story.

Yes, this is what is going to make things difficult in future. Even those of us who have been image blending and morphing images since the early 90’s and know what to look out for, now can’t tell the difference between a good AI image and reality.

The old farts who can’t use an indicator at a roundabout and still vote are easy targets for cashed up campaign strategist.

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Date: 14/09/2026 23:17:08
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2429690
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Democrats now have an 8 point lead in the generic congressional ballot.

This pushes their chances of taking the Senate to 56.9% while chances in the House have increased to 86.4%.

Texas remains the tipping point state in the Senate.

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Date: 15/09/2026 00:53:35
From: dv
ID: 2429702
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.propublica.org/article/donald-trump-jr-wedding-bankrolled-russian-oligarch-umar-kremlev-putin

On May 24, Donald Trump Jr. was celebrating in the Bahamas, as scantily clad dancers in stilettos and sailor caps performed for him and his guests. It was the last night of his wedding, a lavish, three-day party held across a pair of ultra-exclusive private islands. A five-tier funfetti cake had been airlifted in from Florida, and helicopters and seaplanes descended on the islands before guests settled into their oceanfront villas. That night on the beach, Trump Jr. lifted his bride into the air while fireworks launched from a barge over the sea.

“It was everything we dreamed of and more,” his wife later wrote on Instagram.

That dream was heavily funded by a secret benefactor: Umar Kremlev, a Russian oligarch close to President Vladimir Putin.

Kremlev footed the bill for hundreds of thousands of dollars of wedding expenses, according to records reviewed by ProPublica and interviews with three people familiar with the event. The oligarch paid to rent out one of the private islands, where a reception was held and where guests slept. He also covered other big-ticket items, like the fireworks show, and his team helped plan the event. Kremlev is the head of the International Boxing Association, a scandal-plagued sports group that has been financed by the Russian state-owned energy giant Gazprom. The wedding payments came from an IBA-affiliated entity in Dubai that the boxing association uses for financial transactions.

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Date: 15/09/2026 06:24:14
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2429709
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 15/09/2026 06:26:15
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2429710
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Mitch is due to return to the Senate today.

Nah, he’s ghosting the Senate.

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Date: 15/09/2026 07:11:42
From: Michael V
ID: 2429718
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



FMD

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Date: 15/09/2026 07:16:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 2429719
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:


FMD

He should be taken off to the dementia ward.

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Date: 15/09/2026 07:45:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2429721
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.propublica.org/article/donald-trump-jr-wedding-bankrolled-russian-oligarch-umar-kremlev-putin

On May 24, Donald Trump Jr. was celebrating in the Bahamas, as scantily clad dancers in stilettos and sailor caps performed for him and his guests. It was the last night of his wedding, a lavish, three-day party held across a pair of ultra-exclusive private islands. A five-tier funfetti cake had been airlifted in from Florida, and helicopters and seaplanes descended on the islands before guests settled into their oceanfront villas. That night on the beach, Trump Jr. lifted his bride into the air while fireworks launched from a barge over the sea.

“It was everything we dreamed of and more,” his wife later wrote on Instagram.

That dream was heavily funded by a secret benefactor: Umar Kremlev, a Russian oligarch close to President Vladimir Putin.

Kremlev footed the bill for hundreds of thousands of dollars of wedding expenses, according to records reviewed by ProPublica and interviews with three people familiar with the event. The oligarch paid to rent out one of the private islands, where a reception was held and where guests slept. He also covered other big-ticket items, like the fireworks show, and his team helped plan the event. Kremlev is the head of the International Boxing Association, a scandal-plagued sports group that has been financed by the Russian state-owned energy giant Gazprom. The wedding payments came from an IBA-affiliated entity in Dubai that the boxing association uses for financial transactions.

kkk

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Date: 15/09/2026 07:48:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2429723
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

we mean USUKAU and all but they want to cleave off NI to break the UK so why not violate their law enforcement sovereignty as well, if you can steal a Maduro you can steal a paedophile and bring him back to the country where that kind of thing belongs

LOL


see

The first ministers of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland have declared their right to choose whether to remain in the UK. The leaders of Sinn Féin, SNP and Plaid Cymru signed a memorandum of understanding, saying “no Westminster government has the right to block democracy”.

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Date: 15/09/2026 07:50:20
From: Michael V
ID: 2429724
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


dv said:

https://www.propublica.org/article/donald-trump-jr-wedding-bankrolled-russian-oligarch-umar-kremlev-putin

On May 24, Donald Trump Jr. was celebrating in the Bahamas, as scantily clad dancers in stilettos and sailor caps performed for him and his guests. It was the last night of his wedding, a lavish, three-day party held across a pair of ultra-exclusive private islands. A five-tier funfetti cake had been airlifted in from Florida, and helicopters and seaplanes descended on the islands before guests settled into their oceanfront villas. That night on the beach, Trump Jr. lifted his bride into the air while fireworks launched from a barge over the sea.

“It was everything we dreamed of and more,” his wife later wrote on Instagram.

That dream was heavily funded by a secret benefactor: Umar Kremlev, a Russian oligarch close to President Vladimir Putin.

Kremlev footed the bill for hundreds of thousands of dollars of wedding expenses, according to records reviewed by ProPublica and interviews with three people familiar with the event. The oligarch paid to rent out one of the private islands, where a reception was held and where guests slept. He also covered other big-ticket items, like the fireworks show, and his team helped plan the event. Kremlev is the head of the International Boxing Association, a scandal-plagued sports group that has been financed by the Russian state-owned energy giant Gazprom. The wedding payments came from an IBA-affiliated entity in Dubai that the boxing association uses for financial transactions.

kkk

‘sOK. Dunny Dump didn’t go.

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Date: 15/09/2026 08:00:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 2429725
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

https://www.propublica.org/article/donald-trump-jr-wedding-bankrolled-russian-oligarch-umar-kremlev-putin

On May 24, Donald Trump Jr. was celebrating in the Bahamas, as scantily clad dancers in stilettos and sailor caps performed for him and his guests. It was the last night of his wedding, a lavish, three-day party held across a pair of ultra-exclusive private islands. A five-tier funfetti cake had been airlifted in from Florida, and helicopters and seaplanes descended on the islands before guests settled into their oceanfront villas. That night on the beach, Trump Jr. lifted his bride into the air while fireworks launched from a barge over the sea.

“It was everything we dreamed of and more,” his wife later wrote on Instagram.

That dream was heavily funded by a secret benefactor: Umar Kremlev, a Russian oligarch close to President Vladimir Putin.

Kremlev footed the bill for hundreds of thousands of dollars of wedding expenses, according to records reviewed by ProPublica and interviews with three people familiar with the event. The oligarch paid to rent out one of the private islands, where a reception was held and where guests slept. He also covered other big-ticket items, like the fireworks show, and his team helped plan the event. Kremlev is the head of the International Boxing Association, a scandal-plagued sports group that has been financed by the Russian state-owned energy giant Gazprom. The wedding payments came from an IBA-affiliated entity in Dubai that the boxing association uses for financial transactions.

kkk

‘sOK. Dunny Dump didn’t go.

He did that so he wouldn’t have to pay.

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Date: 15/09/2026 10:52:17
From: dv
ID: 2429752
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Mitch has been sighted for the first time in 3 months.

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/mitch-mcconnell-returns-senate-wheelchair-three-month-absence-20260915-p60xex.html

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Date: 15/09/2026 10:55:11
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2429754
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Mitch has been sighted for the first time in 3 months.

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/mitch-mcconnell-returns-senate-wheelchair-three-month-absence-20260915-p60xex.html

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Date: 15/09/2026 10:57:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2429756
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Mitch has been sighted for the first time in 3 months.

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/mitch-mcconnell-returns-senate-wheelchair-three-month-absence-20260915-p60xex.html

The real Mitch, or a droid?

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Date: 15/09/2026 11:02:12
From: Michael V
ID: 2429759
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Mitch has been sighted for the first time in 3 months.

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/mitch-mcconnell-returns-senate-wheelchair-three-month-absence-20260915-p60xex.html

Oh.

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Date: 15/09/2026 11:07:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2429763
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


dv said:

Mitch has been sighted for the first time in 3 months.

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/mitch-mcconnell-returns-senate-wheelchair-three-month-absence-20260915-p60xex.html

Oh.

He’s dead Jim.

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Date: 15/09/2026 11:51:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2429784
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Mitch has been sighted for the first time in 3 months.

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/mitch-mcconnell-returns-senate-wheelchair-three-month-absence-20260915-p60xex.html

The real Mitch, or a droid?

Animatronic Mitch, he’s an android bitch!
The real Mitch ditched so they called in a witch:
“Make us a Mitch and we’ll make you rich,
And only we’ll know which Mitch is which!”

Animatronic Mitch
He’s an android bitch

Animatronic Mitch
Uuhh!
Android bitch

So they made a metal Mitch and stitch by stitch
Sewed a plastic face of the right white race
With the right white hair and stuck him in a chair,
Pushed him through the Senate for the folks to stare

Animatronic Mitch
He’s an android bitch

Animatronic Mitch
Uuhh!
Android bitch

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Date: 15/09/2026 12:06:51
From: kii
ID: 2429792
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Mitch has been sighted for the first time in 3 months.

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/mitch-mcconnell-returns-senate-wheelchair-three-month-absence-20260915-p60xex.html

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Date: 15/09/2026 12:24:10
From: Michael V
ID: 2429799
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Mitch has been sighted for the first time in 3 months.

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/mitch-mcconnell-returns-senate-wheelchair-three-month-absence-20260915-p60xex.html

The real Mitch, or a droid?

Animatronic Mitch, he’s an android bitch!
The real Mitch ditched so they called in a witch:
“Make us a Mitch and we’ll make you rich,
And only we’ll know which Mitch is which!”

Animatronic Mitch
He’s an android bitch

Animatronic Mitch
Uuhh!
Android bitch

So they made a metal Mitch and stitch by stitch
Sewed a plastic face of the right white race
With the right white hair and stuck him in a chair,
Pushed him through the Senate for the folks to stare

Animatronic Mitch
He’s an android bitch

Animatronic Mitch
Uuhh!
Android bitch

LOLz

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Date: 15/09/2026 12:27:17
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2429800
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Mitch has been sighted for the first time in 3 months.

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/mitch-mcconnell-returns-senate-wheelchair-three-month-absence-20260915-p60xex.html

The real Mitch, or a droid?

Weekend at Bernie’s

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Date: 15/09/2026 12:37:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2429805
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Mitch has been sighted for the first time in 3 months.

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/mitch-mcconnell-returns-senate-wheelchair-three-month-absence-20260915-p60xex.html

The real Mitch, or a droid?

Weekend at Bernie’s

H on forehead

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Date: 15/09/2026 12:39:48
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2429806
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

The real Mitch, or a droid?

Weekend at Bernie’s

H on forehead

Honestly did not think we would see Mitchy alive again.

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Date: 15/09/2026 12:42:12
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2429809
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

Weekend at Bernie’s

H on forehead

Honestly did not think we would see Mitchy alive again.

The frozen blank stares into the middle distance will just become more lengthy and more numerous.

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Date: 15/09/2026 12:45:19
From: Michael V
ID: 2429812
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

Weekend at Bernie’s

H on forehead

Honestly did not think we would see Mitchy alive again.

Neither did I.

But perhaps he is a hologram. Or maybe the images we see are AI-generated.

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Date: 15/09/2026 13:08:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2429819
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

So who is he snogging? Printer girl Natalie Harp?

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Date: 15/09/2026 13:11:37
From: Michael V
ID: 2429822
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


So who is he snogging? Printer girl Natalie Harp?

Or Princess Di?

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Date: 15/09/2026 13:13:58
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2429824
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

So who is he snogging? Printer girl Natalie Harp?

Or Princess Di?

Di was much too classy.

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Date: 15/09/2026 13:14:26
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2429826
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 15/09/2026 13:22:42
From: Michael V
ID: 2429829
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

So who is he snogging? Printer girl Natalie Harp?

Or Princess Di?

Di was much too classy.

But AI doesn’t work like that…

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Date: 15/09/2026 13:24:04
From: Michael V
ID: 2429831
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



Yeah, right.

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Date: 15/09/2026 13:34:57
From: ms spock
ID: 2429835
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16127415/US-secretly-American-diplomat-UK-child-abuse.html

US secretly flew American diplomat out of UK without telling British police after he was found with child abuse images in dawn raid

The former US serviceman, who was working at the American Embassy in Nine Elms, south London, was allegedly taken from his flat in Putney after a dawn raid on August 25.

Sources claim US officials discovered child abuse images at the property after they launched an investigation into the man’s brother, who is based in America and is accused of sending abusive material to the diplomat.

—

What

What indeed!

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Date: 15/09/2026 13:36:02
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2429837
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



It will be interesting to see red states turn purple because of opposition to DCs that Trump seems to wholeheartedly support

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Date: 15/09/2026 13:36:40
From: ms spock
ID: 2429838
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

So who is he snogging? Printer girl Natalie Harp?

Or Princess Di?

No Princess Di is off with Elvis.

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Date: 15/09/2026 13:39:01
From: ms spock
ID: 2429842
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



He missed his real calling as a famous wrestler.

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Date: 15/09/2026 16:00:00
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2429897
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spin Cycle

Every president likes to take credit for good news on their watch, but most of them have at least a little shame about it. Not Donald Trump.

September 10 is typically the peak of Atlantic Ocean hurricane season. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration expected a relatively restrained year, but as the meteorologist and hurricane specialist Michael Lowry writes, the season “has never gone beyond September 11th in the reliable records (since at least 1950) without a hurricane” in the Atlantic Ocean—until this year. There aren’t even any strong prospects forming.

Amid spreading violence in the Middle East, warnings of an AI apocalypse, and high fuel prices, it’s a rare piece of good news, and Trump wants credit. Over the weekend, the White House flagged the news, commenting, “Thank you, President Trump!” This is absurd, though maybe no one should be surprised that a man who believed that marking a map with Sharpie can change a hurricane’s path would take credit for a low-key storm season. (He also reportedly once suggested attacking storms with nuclear weapons, so perhaps, as the journalist Catherine Rampell jokes, this is deterrence in action.)

Better explanations than presidential benevolence exist. As my colleague Joshua Partlow has reported, this is an unusual year for the El Niño cycle. In the Pacific Ocean, it has produced very warm water, as well as a number of hurricanes. Hawaii, which is seldom hit, has been struck by two hurricanes so far this year. At least four deaths have been attributed to the storms, and power remains out on some parts of the island of Kauai.

But scientists say that El Niño also accounts for the absence of major storms, so far, in the Atlantic. “It’s really staggering, just how inhospitable the Atlantic is to anything that could form a tropical cyclone right now,” Kristen Corbosiero, a professor of atmospheric science at the University at Albany, told PBS. The lull is especially notable because last year’s hurricane season was also astonishingly mild in the United States. Although parts of the Caribbean endured hurricanes, not a single one hit the U.S. mainland.

This is great news for the Americans who are otherwise often in hurricanes’ paths, and who have been slammed by a series of storms in the past decade—including 2024’s Hurricane Helene, the deadliest to hit the mainland United States since Hurricane Katrina, in 2005. It is also great news for Trump, who must be one of the luckiest people in history.

Hurricanes can help or, more often, badly hurt a president. George W. Bush’s reputation never recovered from Katrina, whereas Barack Obama’s steady hand during Hurricane Sandy seemed to bolster his reelection campaign. Trump’s handling of storms during his first term was poor; he demonstrated little human warmth and, in Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria, jarring coldness.

Trump’s personal behavior aside, his administration has been especially fortunate because under his leadership, FEMA appears to be in no shape to handle a major disaster. In the first months of his second presidency, Trump and then–Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem announced plans to dismantle FEMA entirely, devolving responsibility for relief to states, an idea panned by most experts.

In the meantime, he seemed determined to slowly strangle it, appointing interim leaders with no disaster-relief experience. First came Cameron Hamilton, who was fired after telling Congress that he did not support liquidating FEMA. Next was David Richardson, who, shortly after taking his post in May 2025, acknowledged that he had no completed plan for the impending hurricane season and would reuse the previous year’s. (FEMA employees reported that Richardson said he didn’t even realize such a season existed; a FEMA spokesperson later said he was joking.)

Because no storms have since struck the mainland, these failures ended up having much less human and economic cost. FEMA appears to be on a somewhat stronger footing now. Trump has backed off plans to eliminate FEMA, Noem and Richardson are gone, and Hamilton is back as permanent administrator—and has won some tentative praise for working to learn more about disaster relief. He inherits serious challenges, though.

A federal judge ruled on Friday that an administration order to lay off half of FEMA’s workforce was illegal. “Frankly, the FEMA staffing plan number appears as if pulled from thin air,” the judge wrote of the government’s proposal, which included cutting thousands of on-call employees who rush in with aid after a disaster.

A report released last month by the Government Accountability Office was even more scathing. The GAO found that FEMA’s personnel decisions had been made “without assessing whether it had the necessary staffing capacity to meet its mission,” including what it is required to do under law, and that “FEMA is not positioned to determine whether it has the right number of people with the right skills in the right positions at the right time to meet its mission.” Furthermore, the report said, “the agency has no overall strategic direction.”

Alas, the calm before the storms won’t last indefinitely. Experts who spoke with The New York Times said that it would be premature to assume that no major Atlantic hurricanes will form this year. If the president’s political luck continues, then perhaps the East Coast won’t see a really bad storm until after the midterm elections, or maybe even next year. Given his administration’s approach to hurricane preparedness and the travails of FEMA, though, ordinary Americans along the Atlantic coast and the Gulf Coast are likely to see their weather luck run out.

…

‘The Atlantic’ Email Newsletter

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Date: 15/09/2026 16:09:14
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2429901
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Let’s see how Pauline Hanson responds to cyclones. Gina can’t throw money at them to make them go away.

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Date: 16/09/2026 00:54:59
From: dv
ID: 2430016
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

First Lady Melania Trump is distancing herself from reports that a Russian oligarch helped pay for Donald Trump Jr. and Bettina Anderson’s lavish wedding celebration.

The first lady’s representatives issued a statement to The Daily Mail in response to reports that Trump Jr. and Bettina Anderson’s lavish wedding celebration was paid for in part by Russian oligarch Umar Kremlev, a close associate of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who paid hundreds of thousands of dollars toward the celebration.

“Mrs. Trump does not, and has never had, a relationship with Mr. Kremlev,” a spokesperson for the first lady told the Daily Mail. “Mrs. Trump played no role whatsoever in organizing the wedding event and was not privy to any aspect of its financial planning.”

https://www.rawstory.com/amp/melania-trump-2677860700-2677860700

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Date: 16/09/2026 08:56:21
From: ms spock
ID: 2430034
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


First Lady Melania Trump is distancing herself from reports that a Russian oligarch helped pay for Donald Trump Jr. and Bettina Anderson’s lavish wedding celebration.

The first lady’s representatives issued a statement to The Daily Mail in response to reports that Trump Jr. and Bettina Anderson’s lavish wedding celebration was paid for in part by Russian oligarch Umar Kremlev, a close associate of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who paid hundreds of thousands of dollars toward the celebration.

“Mrs. Trump does not, and has never had, a relationship with Mr. Kremlev,” a spokesperson for the first lady told the Daily Mail. “Mrs. Trump played no role whatsoever in organizing the wedding event and was not privy to any aspect of its financial planning.”

https://www.rawstory.com/amp/melania-trump-2677860700-2677860700

That she even feels the need to do that is weird. What is she trying to do? Protect her brand.

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:13:18
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2430076
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Alleged:

“We all know Trump was a Russian asset, but it started way before Putin. The cultivation began with a woman who appealed to Trump’s first vulnerability. In 1977, Donald Trump married Ivana Zelníčková who he claimed was an alternate on the Czechoslovak Olympic ski team. She wasn’t, but because of what his vanity prevented him from seeing was that Ivana came from Zlín (then called Gottwaldov after the Stalinist president), where travel to the West required special permissions and often cooperation with intelligence services. She was sending messages back to Prague through her father, Miloš Zelníček, to the StB, Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service. As Ex-KGB Yuri Shvets revealed: “Everybody who wanted to immigrate to America was approached by the KGB with blackmail. Either you signed a handwritten note pledging to cooperate with the KGB, or you don’t go anywhere. They were watching him but have yet to make any contact. By 1983, they decided that it’s time to establish a direct contact with Donald Trump from somebody within the New York Russian rezidentura.” After establishing contact the psychological profile that emerged was devastating. Intelligence services worldwide use a framework called MICE (Money, Ideology, Compromise or Coercion, Ego) to assess potential assets. Trump scored off the charts on three of the four. And the missing one – ideology – actually made him more valuable, not less. Trump needed to be seen as successful, brilliant, winning. Recognition was his oxygen. Tell him he was exceptional, and he became remarkably receptive to suggestion (why he’s always hearing things). Coincidentally the same year Trump Tower opened, which they used to launder money through. Collusion by the way isn’t direct involvement of something, it’s an agreement to sway public opinion of an individual. Vladimir Putin put Russia’s asset on the political stage in the U.S. Epstein doesn’t disappear from this either. This aspect goes back to 1981 with Adnan Khashoggi (the uncle to slain journalist Jamal Khashoggi) who helped supply the arms during the Iran Contra Scandal. They didn’t know each other, but they were about to.”

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:14:20
From: dv
ID: 2430077
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:16:19
From: dv
ID: 2430078
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


dv said:

First Lady Melania Trump is distancing herself from reports that a Russian oligarch helped pay for Donald Trump Jr. and Bettina Anderson’s lavish wedding celebration.

The first lady’s representatives issued a statement to The Daily Mail in response to reports that Trump Jr. and Bettina Anderson’s lavish wedding celebration was paid for in part by Russian oligarch Umar Kremlev, a close associate of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who paid hundreds of thousands of dollars toward the celebration.

“Mrs. Trump does not, and has never had, a relationship with Mr. Kremlev,” a spokesperson for the first lady told the Daily Mail. “Mrs. Trump played no role whatsoever in organizing the wedding event and was not privy to any aspect of its financial planning.”

https://www.rawstory.com/amp/melania-trump-2677860700-2677860700

That she even feels the need to do that is weird. What is she trying to do? Protect her brand.

That ship has sailed as I have seen many pictures of her with Epstein’s best friend.

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:17:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2430079
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

ms spock said:

dv said:

First Lady Melania Trump is distancing herself from reports that a Russian oligarch helped pay for Donald Trump Jr. and Bettina Anderson’s lavish wedding celebration.

The first lady’s representatives issued a statement to The Daily Mail in response to reports that Trump Jr. and Bettina Anderson’s lavish wedding celebration was paid for in part by Russian oligarch Umar Kremlev, a close associate of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who paid hundreds of thousands of dollars toward the celebration.

“Mrs. Trump does not, and has never had, a relationship with Mr. Kremlev,” a spokesperson for the first lady told the Daily Mail. “Mrs. Trump played no role whatsoever in organizing the wedding event and was not privy to any aspect of its financial planning.”

https://www.rawstory.com/amp/melania-trump-2677860700-2677860700

That she even feels the need to do that is weird. What is she trying to do? Protect her brand.

That ship has sailed as I have seen many pictures of her with Epstein’s best friend.

so 300000000 americese will love the brand even more

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:25:26
From: Michael V
ID: 2430082
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Alleged:

“We all know Trump was a Russian asset, but it started way before Putin. The cultivation began with a woman who appealed to Trump’s first vulnerability. In 1977, Donald Trump married Ivana Zelníčková who he claimed was an alternate on the Czechoslovak Olympic ski team. She wasn’t, but because of what his vanity prevented him from seeing was that Ivana came from Zlín (then called Gottwaldov after the Stalinist president), where travel to the West required special permissions and often cooperation with intelligence services. She was sending messages back to Prague through her father, Miloš Zelníček, to the StB, Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service. As Ex-KGB Yuri Shvets revealed: “Everybody who wanted to immigrate to America was approached by the KGB with blackmail. Either you signed a handwritten note pledging to cooperate with the KGB, or you don’t go anywhere. They were watching him but have yet to make any contact. By 1983, they decided that it’s time to establish a direct contact with Donald Trump from somebody within the New York Russian rezidentura.” After establishing contact the psychological profile that emerged was devastating. Intelligence services worldwide use a framework called MICE (Money, Ideology, Compromise or Coercion, Ego) to assess potential assets. Trump scored off the charts on three of the four. And the missing one – ideology – actually made him more valuable, not less. Trump needed to be seen as successful, brilliant, winning. Recognition was his oxygen. Tell him he was exceptional, and he became remarkably receptive to suggestion (why he’s always hearing things). Coincidentally the same year Trump Tower opened, which they used to launder money through. Collusion by the way isn’t direct involvement of something, it’s an agreement to sway public opinion of an individual. Vladimir Putin put Russia’s asset on the political stage in the U.S. Epstein doesn’t disappear from this either. This aspect goes back to 1981 with Adnan Khashoggi (the uncle to slain journalist Jamal Khashoggi) who helped supply the arms during the Iran Contra Scandal. They didn’t know each other, but they were about to.”

Alleged by who?

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:27:18
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2430084
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Alleged:

“We all know Trump was a Russian asset, but it started way before Putin. The cultivation began with a woman who appealed to Trump’s first vulnerability. In 1977, Donald Trump married Ivana Zelníčková who he claimed was an alternate on the Czechoslovak Olympic ski team. She wasn’t, but because of what his vanity prevented him from seeing was that Ivana came from Zlín (then called Gottwaldov after the Stalinist president), where travel to the West required special permissions and often cooperation with intelligence services. She was sending messages back to Prague through her father, Miloš Zelníček, to the StB, Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service. As Ex-KGB Yuri Shvets revealed: “Everybody who wanted to immigrate to America was approached by the KGB with blackmail. Either you signed a handwritten note pledging to cooperate with the KGB, or you don’t go anywhere. They were watching him but have yet to make any contact. By 1983, they decided that it’s time to establish a direct contact with Donald Trump from somebody within the New York Russian rezidentura.” After establishing contact the psychological profile that emerged was devastating. Intelligence services worldwide use a framework called MICE (Money, Ideology, Compromise or Coercion, Ego) to assess potential assets. Trump scored off the charts on three of the four. And the missing one – ideology – actually made him more valuable, not less. Trump needed to be seen as successful, brilliant, winning. Recognition was his oxygen. Tell him he was exceptional, and he became remarkably receptive to suggestion (why he’s always hearing things). Coincidentally the same year Trump Tower opened, which they used to launder money through. Collusion by the way isn’t direct involvement of something, it’s an agreement to sway public opinion of an individual. Vladimir Putin put Russia’s asset on the political stage in the U.S. Epstein doesn’t disappear from this either. This aspect goes back to 1981 with Adnan Khashoggi (the uncle to slain journalist Jamal Khashoggi) who helped supply the arms during the Iran Contra Scandal. They didn’t know each other, but they were about to.”

Alleged by who?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZFUVI6symA

Link

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:30:13
From: Michael V
ID: 2430085
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Alleged:

“We all know Trump was a Russian asset, but it started way before Putin. The cultivation began with a woman who appealed to Trump’s first vulnerability. In 1977, Donald Trump married Ivana Zelníčková who he claimed was an alternate on the Czechoslovak Olympic ski team. She wasn’t, but because of what his vanity prevented him from seeing was that Ivana came from Zlín (then called Gottwaldov after the Stalinist president), where travel to the West required special permissions and often cooperation with intelligence services. She was sending messages back to Prague through her father, Miloš Zelníček, to the StB, Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service. As Ex-KGB Yuri Shvets revealed: “Everybody who wanted to immigrate to America was approached by the KGB with blackmail. Either you signed a handwritten note pledging to cooperate with the KGB, or you don’t go anywhere. They were watching him but have yet to make any contact. By 1983, they decided that it’s time to establish a direct contact with Donald Trump from somebody within the New York Russian rezidentura.” After establishing contact the psychological profile that emerged was devastating. Intelligence services worldwide use a framework called MICE (Money, Ideology, Compromise or Coercion, Ego) to assess potential assets. Trump scored off the charts on three of the four. And the missing one – ideology – actually made him more valuable, not less. Trump needed to be seen as successful, brilliant, winning. Recognition was his oxygen. Tell him he was exceptional, and he became remarkably receptive to suggestion (why he’s always hearing things). Coincidentally the same year Trump Tower opened, which they used to launder money through. Collusion by the way isn’t direct involvement of something, it’s an agreement to sway public opinion of an individual. Vladimir Putin put Russia’s asset on the political stage in the U.S. Epstein doesn’t disappear from this either. This aspect goes back to 1981 with Adnan Khashoggi (the uncle to slain journalist Jamal Khashoggi) who helped supply the arms during the Iran Contra Scandal. They didn’t know each other, but they were about to.”

Alleged by who?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZFUVI6symA

Link

IC

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:31:02
From: kii
ID: 2430086
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality

“So you disqualify the animal?”

Lololol…..sigh

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:31:30
From: Cymek
ID: 2430087
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Alleged:

“We all know Trump was a Russian asset, but it started way before Putin. The cultivation began with a woman who appealed to Trump’s first vulnerability. In 1977, Donald Trump married Ivana Zelníčková who he claimed was an alternate on the Czechoslovak Olympic ski team. She wasn’t, but because of what his vanity prevented him from seeing was that Ivana came from Zlín (then called Gottwaldov after the Stalinist president), where travel to the West required special permissions and often cooperation with intelligence services. She was sending messages back to Prague through her father, Miloš Zelníček, to the StB, Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service. As Ex-KGB Yuri Shvets revealed: “Everybody who wanted to immigrate to America was approached by the KGB with blackmail. Either you signed a handwritten note pledging to cooperate with the KGB, or you don’t go anywhere. They were watching him but have yet to make any contact. By 1983, they decided that it’s time to establish a direct contact with Donald Trump from somebody within the New York Russian rezidentura.” After establishing contact the psychological profile that emerged was devastating. Intelligence services worldwide use a framework called MICE (Money, Ideology, Compromise or Coercion, Ego) to assess potential assets. Trump scored off the charts on three of the four. And the missing one – ideology – actually made him more valuable, not less. Trump needed to be seen as successful, brilliant, winning. Recognition was his oxygen. Tell him he was exceptional, and he became remarkably receptive to suggestion (why he’s always hearing things). Coincidentally the same year Trump Tower opened, which they used to launder money through. Collusion by the way isn’t direct involvement of something, it’s an agreement to sway public opinion of an individual. Vladimir Putin put Russia’s asset on the political stage in the U.S. Epstein doesn’t disappear from this either. This aspect goes back to 1981 with Adnan Khashoggi (the uncle to slain journalist Jamal Khashoggi) who helped supply the arms during the Iran Contra Scandal. They didn’t know each other, but they were about to.”

Alleged by who?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZFUVI6symA

Link

Trump and Putin would sell out the human race if it meant ego stroking.
Both war criminals that should be forceable taken from their places of resident, shot in the back of the head and left to rot in the street.
Two disgusting excuses for human beings that disgrace us all.

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:43:57
From: Ian
ID: 2430088
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:47:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2430091
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

dv said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality

“So you disqualify the animal?”

Lololol…..sigh

democracy at work

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:50:18
From: Cymek
ID: 2430092
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

dv said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality

“So you disqualify the animal?”

Lololol…..sigh

democracy at work

They even have a song for it WASP – Fuck like a beast

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:52:48
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2430094
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

kii said:

“So you disqualify the animal?”

Lololol…..sigh

democracy at work

They even have a song for it WASP – Fuck like a beast

Can’t wait to hear NIN at a Trump rally.

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:53:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2430095
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

“So you disqualify the animal?”

Lololol…..sigh

democracy at work

They even have a song for it WASP – Fuck like a beast

what if it’s a sex robot with an ungulate skin does that count

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:56:13
From: Cymek
ID: 2430096
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

democracy at work

They even have a song for it WASP – Fuck like a beast

Can’t wait to hear NIN at a Trump rally.

I’m being silly but my god it’s not a criteria to excuse you from a job.

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Date: 16/09/2026 11:57:35
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2430097
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Cymek said:

They even have a song for it WASP – Fuck like a beast

Can’t wait to hear NIN at a Trump rally.

I’m being silly but my god it’s not a criteria to excuse you from a job.

Well it is illegal in most jurisdictions.

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Date: 16/09/2026 12:03:02
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2430101
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 16/09/2026 12:05:53
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2430104
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump set to explode if his man does his job

Stephen Bartholomeusz
Senior business columnist
September 15, 2026 — 11:59am

“Fed Week” has started with a bang, with the world’s benchmark interest rate breaking through a key threshold and oil prices surging solidly above $US100 ($140) a barrel again.

When the members of the Federal Reserve Board’s Open Market Committee, which begins its two-day meeting on Monday afternoon (Washington time), sit down to decide whether to lift their policy rate, they’ll also have to factor in the hotter-than-expected inflation data from late last week.

Financial markets have no doubt what they’ll decide: they’ve priced in a 25-basis point hike at this meeting and at least two more, and perhaps three, similar moves between now and June next year. The probability of a rate rise at this meeting is priced at about 90 per cent.

If the Fed does as the markets expect and raises the federal funds rate for the first time since July 2023, when the central bank was still dealing with the inflation shock generated by the post-pandemic disruptions to global supply chains, it will be on a collision course with the Trump White House.

At the weekend, Donald Trump again said the US should have the lowest interest rates in the world and again threatened to cut off trade with countries which have a trade surplus with the US if the Fed didn’t lower US rates. (Even though ending trade with most of America’s trading partners would help lower their interest rates, and would be more likely to lift the US inflation rate and interest rates than lower them).

Kevin Warsh, handpicked by Trump as chair of the Fed, is in an awkward position, partly of Trump’s making, but compounded by his own decisions.

Trump’s trade wars and his war in the Middle East have bled into the inflation rate and the cost of living for American households.

Last week’s inflation numbers showed a rise in headline inflation of 40 basis points between July and August, to 3.4 per cent. The inflation rate has now been above the Fed’s 2 per cent target for 5½ years.

The war in the Middle East has raged for nearly seven months, with no end in sight. Oil prices have rocketed from about $US60 a barrel before the US and Israel attacked Iran in February to about $US106 a barrel this week, having been above $US107 a barrel on Monday.

US gasoline prices have risen about 45 per cent and diesel prices 60 per cent as a result of the war, with the average price of diesel – the key transport fuel – moving above $US6 a gallon for the first time last Friday. It’s now at $US6.23, compared with $US3.76 a gallon just ahead of the onset of the war.

The longer the war drags on – the longer diesel and gasoline prices remain elevated – the greater the likelihood that the fuel costs that businesses appear to have largely absorbed to date will bleed into the wider economy and more materially into the inflation rate.

The impact of Trump’s trade war seemed to have passed through the economy and the data earlier this year, having a one-off effect on goods inflation, but then Trump announced a new suite of global tariffs – and a punitive new tariff regime for Canada – that will prolong the tariffs’ impacts on prices.

Warsh hasn’t helped himself. Having decided that he doesn’t like the Fed providing guidance to the markets because wants the markets to provide signals to the Fed rather than respond to the Fed’s view of the outlook for the economy, he’s now getting what he asked for.

The yield on the US 10-year bond – the world’s most important and influential interest rate – topped 5 per cent on Monday. It momentarily hit 5 per cent in 2023, in response to the burst of inflation generated by malfunctioning global supply chains, but hasn’t held above 5 per cent since 2007, before the global financial crisis.

The market is saying that the US has an inflation problem, and perhaps even a growing credit risk problem. If Warsh ignores the market’s message, the likelihood is that yields will rise even more.

That rise in the 10-year bond yield has come despite (or perhaps because of) US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s arrogant and clumsy attempt to manipulate the market and lower the government’s interest costs by launching a buy-back of longer dates bonds this month. Bessent took on a $US32 trillion market, dared it to take on the US government and, not surprisingly, lost.

Bond investors have become increasingly focused on the government’s debts of more than $US40 trillion and a budget deficit that was $US1.97 trillion in the first 11 months of the US financial year (which runs from October 1 to September 30). The annual interest cost on that debt is running at about $US1.25 trillion and is rising every time a bond issued in a lower interest rate environment matures and has to be refinanced.

Warsh also created reference points for himself at the Jackson Hole conference of central banks and economists last month, when, to make up for a poorly received press conference after he chaired his first Open Market Committee meeting, he presented himself as a firm inflation hawk.

“There should be no misunderstanding,” Warsh said at the time.

“The Fed’s price-stability objective of 2 per cent … is a firm, fixed target. Price stability is not self-executing, nor is inflation necessarily mean-reverting. It’s the Fed’s job to deliver stable prices.

“Here is my standard: We must be confident that underlying inflation is moving to our objective, clearly and at sufficient speed. Otherwise, we have work to do. That’s our job, our mandate and our charge to keep.”

It is indubitable that the inflation rate is, and has been for years, well above the Fed’s target so, if Warsh is to be true to the commitment gave at Jackson Hole, he has to raise the policy rate.

If Warsh doesn’t, the rest of the committee – much as they might dislike the idea of defying their chair – might well do it anyway. Recent Fed meetings have shown a rise in the number of officials arguing for an increase in the rate.

A failure to meet the market’s expectations and the expectations he himself also raised would undermine Warsh’s credibility and perceptions of his and the Fed’s independence from the Trump White House. It would also raise the prospect of investors adding a political risk premium to the yields.

With the midterm elections now less than two months away, the Republicans are under pressure and Trump is becoming more desperate because he knows the personal consequences of the Democrats seizing control of Congress.

There’d be lots of inquiries into the extraordinary wealth he and his family have added since Trump regained the White House, and potential impeachments.

The level of desperation was underscored by Trump’s pledge of $US5000 cheques to every American if the Republicans retain control of both chambers of Congress, funding it with “trillions” of tariff revenues that don’t exist and adding to the deficits, debt and inflation.

Warsh knows he risks Trump’s ire if the Fed raises the rate and that he will be even less popular with the White House in future because 25 basis points won’t by itself tame inflation. Once started on a rate-hiking cycle, the Fed will have no alternative but to continue until the inflation rate is clearly on track towards the 2 per cent target.

So far, Trump has said nothing but nice things about Warsh, blaming other “very political” Fed members for Warsh’s failure to deliver the lower rates Trump keeps demanding.

His opinion might change, dramatically and aggressively, if Warsh delivers and defends a rate rise – or even two – before the November elections. Warsh’s predecessor, Jerome Powell – who the administration pursued with trumped-up (pun intended) criminal charges – could tell him what the personal consequences of a falling out with Trump look like.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/the-economy/trump-set-to-explode-if-his-man-does-his-job-20260915-p60xdn.html

…

I’ll preheat my popcorn machine for Thursday morning.

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Date: 16/09/2026 12:12:18
From: Cymek
ID: 2430106
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Surely multi trillions dollars of debt must compromise your government in every aspect of its running.
You’ve got masters who own you many times over

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Date: 16/09/2026 12:17:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2430110
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

Surely multi trillions dollars of debt must compromise your government in every aspect of its running.
You’ve got masters who own you many times over

that’s how democracy works, if the government owned the masters then it would be communism

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Date: 16/09/2026 12:18:44
From: ms spock
ID: 2430112
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality

America has gone mad.

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Date: 16/09/2026 12:20:12
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2430113
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Surely multi trillions dollars of debt must compromise your government in every aspect of its running.
You’ve got masters who own you many times over

Not really – it’s not really like a credit card; that is, governments don’t go out and apply for debt, they essentially sell their own debt on their own terms.

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Date: 16/09/2026 12:20:45
From: ms spock
ID: 2430114
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


ms spock said:

dv said:

First Lady Melania Trump is distancing herself from reports that a Russian oligarch helped pay for Donald Trump Jr. and Bettina Anderson’s lavish wedding celebration.

The first lady’s representatives issued a statement to The Daily Mail in response to reports that Trump Jr. and Bettina Anderson’s lavish wedding celebration was paid for in part by Russian oligarch Umar Kremlev, a close associate of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who paid hundreds of thousands of dollars toward the celebration.

“Mrs. Trump does not, and has never had, a relationship with Mr. Kremlev,” a spokesperson for the first lady told the Daily Mail. “Mrs. Trump played no role whatsoever in organizing the wedding event and was not privy to any aspect of its financial planning.”

https://www.rawstory.com/amp/melania-trump-2677860700-2677860700

That she even feels the need to do that is weird. What is she trying to do? Protect her brand.

That ship has sailed as I have seen many pictures of her with Epstein’s best friend.

You are 100% correct.

That is why I am so confused. Why would she release this statement?
America has gone crazy.

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Date: 16/09/2026 12:20:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2430115
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

dv said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality

America has gone mad.

well how can their undercover cops stay under cover if they aren’t just like the criminals they’re supposedly investigating

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Date: 16/09/2026 12:25:05
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430116
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


dv said:

ms spock said:

That she even feels the need to do that is weird. What is she trying to do? Protect her brand.

That ship has sailed as I have seen many pictures of her with Epstein’s best friend.

You are 100% correct.

That is why I am so confused. Why would she release this statement?
America has gone crazy.

Smoke and mirrors. Deny deny deny even when the evidence is painted on your face. It’s possible she’s distancing herself from Trump and her stepkids to prepare for life after him and the presidency.

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Date: 16/09/2026 12:28:23
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2430117
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Cymek said:

Surely multi trillions dollars of debt must compromise your government in every aspect of its running.
You’ve got masters who own you many times over

Not really – it’s not really like a credit card; that is, governments don’t go out and apply for debt, they essentially sell their own debt on their own terms.

Pretty much. The only danger is for sovereign governments to be beholden to their foreign creditors when their debt is not denominated in their own currency. But then Argentina is an outlier whose shenanigans are not really representative of debtor nations.

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Date: 16/09/2026 12:48:54
From: Michael V
ID: 2430120
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Trump set to explode if his man does his job

Stephen Bartholomeusz
Senior business columnist
September 15, 2026 — 11:59am

“Fed Week” has started with a bang, with the world’s benchmark interest rate breaking through a key threshold and oil prices surging solidly above $US100 ($140) a barrel again.

When the members of the Federal Reserve Board’s Open Market Committee, which begins its two-day meeting on Monday afternoon (Washington time), sit down to decide whether to lift their policy rate, they’ll also have to factor in the hotter-than-expected inflation data from late last week.

Financial markets have no doubt what they’ll decide: they’ve priced in a 25-basis point hike at this meeting and at least two more, and perhaps three, similar moves between now and June next year. The probability of a rate rise at this meeting is priced at about 90 per cent.

If the Fed does as the markets expect and raises the federal funds rate for the first time since July 2023, when the central bank was still dealing with the inflation shock generated by the post-pandemic disruptions to global supply chains, it will be on a collision course with the Trump White House.

At the weekend, Donald Trump again said the US should have the lowest interest rates in the world and again threatened to cut off trade with countries which have a trade surplus with the US if the Fed didn’t lower US rates. (Even though ending trade with most of America’s trading partners would help lower their interest rates, and would be more likely to lift the US inflation rate and interest rates than lower them).

Kevin Warsh, handpicked by Trump as chair of the Fed, is in an awkward position, partly of Trump’s making, but compounded by his own decisions.

Trump’s trade wars and his war in the Middle East have bled into the inflation rate and the cost of living for American households.

Last week’s inflation numbers showed a rise in headline inflation of 40 basis points between July and August, to 3.4 per cent. The inflation rate has now been above the Fed’s 2 per cent target for 5½ years.

The war in the Middle East has raged for nearly seven months, with no end in sight. Oil prices have rocketed from about $US60 a barrel before the US and Israel attacked Iran in February to about $US106 a barrel this week, having been above $US107 a barrel on Monday.

US gasoline prices have risen about 45 per cent and diesel prices 60 per cent as a result of the war, with the average price of diesel – the key transport fuel – moving above $US6 a gallon for the first time last Friday. It’s now at $US6.23, compared with $US3.76 a gallon just ahead of the onset of the war.

The longer the war drags on – the longer diesel and gasoline prices remain elevated – the greater the likelihood that the fuel costs that businesses appear to have largely absorbed to date will bleed into the wider economy and more materially into the inflation rate.

The impact of Trump’s trade war seemed to have passed through the economy and the data earlier this year, having a one-off effect on goods inflation, but then Trump announced a new suite of global tariffs – and a punitive new tariff regime for Canada – that will prolong the tariffs’ impacts on prices.

Warsh hasn’t helped himself. Having decided that he doesn’t like the Fed providing guidance to the markets because wants the markets to provide signals to the Fed rather than respond to the Fed’s view of the outlook for the economy, he’s now getting what he asked for.

The yield on the US 10-year bond – the world’s most important and influential interest rate – topped 5 per cent on Monday. It momentarily hit 5 per cent in 2023, in response to the burst of inflation generated by malfunctioning global supply chains, but hasn’t held above 5 per cent since 2007, before the global financial crisis.

The market is saying that the US has an inflation problem, and perhaps even a growing credit risk problem. If Warsh ignores the market’s message, the likelihood is that yields will rise even more.

That rise in the 10-year bond yield has come despite (or perhaps because of) US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s arrogant and clumsy attempt to manipulate the market and lower the government’s interest costs by launching a buy-back of longer dates bonds this month. Bessent took on a $US32 trillion market, dared it to take on the US government and, not surprisingly, lost.

Bond investors have become increasingly focused on the government’s debts of more than $US40 trillion and a budget deficit that was $US1.97 trillion in the first 11 months of the US financial year (which runs from October 1 to September 30). The annual interest cost on that debt is running at about $US1.25 trillion and is rising every time a bond issued in a lower interest rate environment matures and has to be refinanced.

Warsh also created reference points for himself at the Jackson Hole conference of central banks and economists last month, when, to make up for a poorly received press conference after he chaired his first Open Market Committee meeting, he presented himself as a firm inflation hawk.

“There should be no misunderstanding,” Warsh said at the time.

“The Fed’s price-stability objective of 2 per cent … is a firm, fixed target. Price stability is not self-executing, nor is inflation necessarily mean-reverting. It’s the Fed’s job to deliver stable prices.

“Here is my standard: We must be confident that underlying inflation is moving to our objective, clearly and at sufficient speed. Otherwise, we have work to do. That’s our job, our mandate and our charge to keep.”

It is indubitable that the inflation rate is, and has been for years, well above the Fed’s target so, if Warsh is to be true to the commitment gave at Jackson Hole, he has to raise the policy rate.

If Warsh doesn’t, the rest of the committee – much as they might dislike the idea of defying their chair – might well do it anyway. Recent Fed meetings have shown a rise in the number of officials arguing for an increase in the rate.

A failure to meet the market’s expectations and the expectations he himself also raised would undermine Warsh’s credibility and perceptions of his and the Fed’s independence from the Trump White House. It would also raise the prospect of investors adding a political risk premium to the yields.

With the midterm elections now less than two months away, the Republicans are under pressure and Trump is becoming more desperate because he knows the personal consequences of the Democrats seizing control of Congress.

There’d be lots of inquiries into the extraordinary wealth he and his family have added since Trump regained the White House, and potential impeachments.

The level of desperation was underscored by Trump’s pledge of $US5000 cheques to every American if the Republicans retain control of both chambers of Congress, funding it with “trillions” of tariff revenues that don’t exist and adding to the deficits, debt and inflation.

Warsh knows he risks Trump’s ire if the Fed raises the rate and that he will be even less popular with the White House in future because 25 basis points won’t by itself tame inflation. Once started on a rate-hiking cycle, the Fed will have no alternative but to continue until the inflation rate is clearly on track towards the 2 per cent target.

So far, Trump has said nothing but nice things about Warsh, blaming other “very political” Fed members for Warsh’s failure to deliver the lower rates Trump keeps demanding.

His opinion might change, dramatically and aggressively, if Warsh delivers and defends a rate rise – or even two – before the November elections. Warsh’s predecessor, Jerome Powell – who the administration pursued with trumped-up (pun intended) criminal charges – could tell him what the personal consequences of a falling out with Trump look like.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/the-economy/trump-set-to-explode-if-his-man-does-his-job-20260915-p60xdn.html

…

I’ll preheat my popcorn machine for Thursday morning.

Good idea.

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Date: 16/09/2026 13:14:16
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430132
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump’s allies are closing the historic theater because he can’t put his name on it

President Trump’s handpicked board of trustees for the Kennedy Center voted Tuesday to immediately close the famed venue for renovations, shortly after a federal court blocked Trump’s latest attempt to put his name on the building.

The board claims that the center is in serious trouble, financially and structurally, pointing to a partial ceiling collapse earlier this month and alleging possible bankruptcy. The board argues that the only way to keep the center running and the building intact is to allow Trump to take over and have his name added to the building’s facade.

https://newrepublic.com/post/215457/kennedy-center-votes-shut-down-trump-loss-court-name

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Date: 16/09/2026 13:22:35
From: dv
ID: 2430139
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality

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Date: 16/09/2026 13:23:53
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2430140
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Alleged:

“We all know Trump was a Russian asset, but it started way before Putin. The cultivation began with a woman who appealed to Trump’s first vulnerability. In 1977, Donald Trump married Ivana Zelníčková who he claimed was an alternate on the Czechoslovak Olympic ski team. She wasn’t, but because of what his vanity prevented him from seeing was that Ivana came from Zlín (then called Gottwaldov after the Stalinist president), where travel to the West required special permissions and often cooperation with intelligence services. She was sending messages back to Prague through her father, Miloš Zelníček, to the StB, Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service. As Ex-KGB Yuri Shvets revealed: “Everybody who wanted to immigrate to America was approached by the KGB with blackmail. Either you signed a handwritten note pledging to cooperate with the KGB, or you don’t go anywhere. They were watching him but have yet to make any contact. By 1983, they decided that it’s time to establish a direct contact with Donald Trump from somebody within the New York Russian rezidentura.” After establishing contact the psychological profile that emerged was devastating. Intelligence services worldwide use a framework called MICE (Money, Ideology, Compromise or Coercion, Ego) to assess potential assets. Trump scored off the charts on three of the four. And the missing one – ideology – actually made him more valuable, not less. Trump needed to be seen as successful, brilliant, winning. Recognition was his oxygen. Tell him he was exceptional, and he became remarkably receptive to suggestion (why he’s always hearing things). Coincidentally the same year Trump Tower opened, which they used to launder money through. Collusion by the way isn’t direct involvement of something, it’s an agreement to sway public opinion of an individual. Vladimir Putin put Russia’s asset on the political stage in the U.S. Epstein doesn’t disappear from this either. This aspect goes back to 1981 with Adnan Khashoggi (the uncle to slain journalist Jamal Khashoggi) who helped supply the arms during the Iran Contra Scandal. They didn’t know each other, but they were about to.”

Alleged by who?

Someone on Quora.

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Date: 16/09/2026 13:35:59
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430142
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


dv said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality


Nothing says “Christian conservative values” quite like the Trump administration putting the ‘mark of the beast’ on the FBI’s list of acceptable life choices

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Date: 16/09/2026 13:45:26
From: dv
ID: 2430146
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


dv said:

dv said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality


Nothing says “Christian conservative values” quite like the Trump administration putting the ‘mark of the beast’ on the FBI’s list of acceptable life choices


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Date: 16/09/2026 13:46:59
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430148
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

dv said:


Nothing says “Christian conservative values” quite like the Trump administration putting the ‘mark of the beast’ on the FBI’s list of acceptable life choices



Says bookboner.

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Date: 16/09/2026 14:49:32
From: ms spock
ID: 2430161
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Kash Patel and the “bestiality”

Link

2 minutes

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Date: 16/09/2026 14:51:24
From: ms spock
ID: 2430162
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality

“So you disqualify the animal?”

Lololol…..sigh

You have to wonder what is in the Epstein Files.

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Date: 16/09/2026 14:57:55
From: Cymek
ID: 2430163
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


kii said:

dv said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality

“So you disqualify the animal?”

Lololol…..sigh

You have to wonder what is in the Epstein Files.

I’d assumed the very worse humanity has to offer
Actual murder and rape of women and children.
Treating humans like they are disposable
Events like hunting humans for sport, etc.
Bored rich humans with no morality so anything is the go

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Date: 16/09/2026 15:02:03
From: ms spock
ID: 2430164
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

dv said:


Nothing says “Christian conservative values” quite like the Trump administration putting the ‘mark of the beast’ on the FBI’s list of acceptable life choices


😂 😂😂

There’s no bottom to the insanity.

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Date: 16/09/2026 15:11:04
From: Michael V
ID: 2430166
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

dv said:


Nothing says “Christian conservative values” quite like the Trump administration putting the ‘mark of the beast’ on the FBI’s list of acceptable life choices


But at least they are not eating them.

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Date: 16/09/2026 15:24:04
From: Michael V
ID: 2430173
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Kash Patel and the “bestiality”

Link

2 minutes

!!!

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Date: 16/09/2026 15:27:46
From: Michael V
ID: 2430176
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Alleged:

“We all know Trump was a Russian asset, but it started way before Putin. The cultivation began with a woman who appealed to Trump’s first vulnerability. In 1977, Donald Trump married Ivana Zelníčková who he claimed was an alternate on the Czechoslovak Olympic ski team. She wasn’t, but because of what his vanity prevented him from seeing was that Ivana came from Zlín (then called Gottwaldov after the Stalinist president), where travel to the West required special permissions and often cooperation with intelligence services. She was sending messages back to Prague through her father, Miloš Zelníček, to the StB, Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service. As Ex-KGB Yuri Shvets revealed: “Everybody who wanted to immigrate to America was approached by the KGB with blackmail. Either you signed a handwritten note pledging to cooperate with the KGB, or you don’t go anywhere. They were watching him but have yet to make any contact. By 1983, they decided that it’s time to establish a direct contact with Donald Trump from somebody within the New York Russian rezidentura.” After establishing contact the psychological profile that emerged was devastating. Intelligence services worldwide use a framework called MICE (Money, Ideology, Compromise or Coercion, Ego) to assess potential assets. Trump scored off the charts on three of the four. And the missing one – ideology – actually made him more valuable, not less. Trump needed to be seen as successful, brilliant, winning. Recognition was his oxygen. Tell him he was exceptional, and he became remarkably receptive to suggestion (why he’s always hearing things). Coincidentally the same year Trump Tower opened, which they used to launder money through. Collusion by the way isn’t direct involvement of something, it’s an agreement to sway public opinion of an individual. Vladimir Putin put Russia’s asset on the political stage in the U.S. Epstein doesn’t disappear from this either. This aspect goes back to 1981 with Adnan Khashoggi (the uncle to slain journalist Jamal Khashoggi) who helped supply the arms during the Iran Contra Scandal. They didn’t know each other, but they were about to.”

Alleged by who?

Someone on Quora.

Ah, so an internet random.

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Date: 16/09/2026 15:37:54
From: ms spock
ID: 2430180
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

kii said:

“So you disqualify the animal?”

Lololol…..sigh

You have to wonder what is in the Epstein Files.

I’d assumed the very worse humanity has to offer
Actual murder and rape of women and children.
Treating humans like they are disposable
Events like hunting humans for sport, etc.
Bored rich humans with no morality so anything is the go

Very sad.
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Date: 16/09/2026 15:38:47
From: ms spock
ID: 2430181
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


dv said:

Divine Angel said:

Nothing says “Christian conservative values” quite like the Trump administration putting the ‘mark of the beast’ on the FBI’s list of acceptable life choices


But at least they are not eating them.

:)

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Date: 16/09/2026 15:55:13
From: ms spock
ID: 2430186
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

dv said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality

America has gone mad.

well how can their undercover cops stay under cover if they aren’t just like the criminals they’re supposedly investigating

Fair point

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Date: 16/09/2026 15:56:08
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2430187
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


dv said:

Divine Angel said:

Nothing says “Christian conservative values” quite like the Trump administration putting the ‘mark of the beast’ on the FBI’s list of acceptable life choices



Says bookboner.

that’s JD’s sockpuppet account

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Date: 16/09/2026 16:36:53
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430193
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 16/09/2026 17:00:20
From: Cymek
ID: 2430197
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



Whose hard earned land.
If anyone should be shitty it would be the natives
I imagine the land would be worth trillions all up

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Date: 16/09/2026 17:24:20
From: Ian
ID: 2430203
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.duffelblog.com/hegseth-tired-of-looking-at-all-these-limp-dicks-in-pentagon-locker-room/

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Date: 16/09/2026 17:25:19
From: Michael V
ID: 2430204
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



!!!

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Date: 16/09/2026 17:36:07
From: Cymek
ID: 2430207
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ian said:


https://www.duffelblog.com/hegseth-tired-of-looking-at-all-these-limp-dicks-in-pentagon-locker-room/

He’s channelling Jesse Venture at the beginning of Predator

I bet he thinks he’s a god damn sexual Tyrannosaurus

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Date: 16/09/2026 17:36:15
From: Michael V
ID: 2430208
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ian said:


https://www.duffelblog.com/hegseth-tired-of-looking-at-all-these-limp-dicks-in-pentagon-locker-room/

LOL

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Date: 16/09/2026 17:39:17
From: Cymek
ID: 2430212
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Ian said:

https://www.duffelblog.com/hegseth-tired-of-looking-at-all-these-limp-dicks-in-pentagon-locker-room/

LOL

Imagine if you could undo all the macho semi self assured posturing with a few Mr Humphries quotes or Mrs Slocombe

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Date: 16/09/2026 17:40:24
From: Cymek
ID: 2430213
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ian said:


https://www.duffelblog.com/hegseth-tired-of-looking-at-all-these-limp-dicks-in-pentagon-locker-room/

Mrs Slocombe “My pussy took one look at that and retreated in fright”

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Date: 16/09/2026 17:44:43
From: Cymek
ID: 2430214
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ian said:


https://www.duffelblog.com/hegseth-tired-of-looking-at-all-these-limp-dicks-in-pentagon-locker-room/

Mr Humphries “You know I’ve gone right off me toad in the hole*

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Date: 16/09/2026 17:44:47
From: Ian
ID: 2430215
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Ian said:

https://www.duffelblog.com/hegseth-tired-of-looking-at-all-these-limp-dicks-in-pentagon-locker-room/

Mrs Slocombe “My pussy took one look at that and retreated in fright”

:)

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Date: 16/09/2026 17:56:11
From: Cymek
ID: 2430218
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ian said:


https://www.duffelblog.com/hegseth-tired-of-looking-at-all-these-limp-dicks-in-pentagon-locker-room/

Hegseth “That’s one impressive schwartz, being red does that make him a Sith ?”

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Date: 16/09/2026 18:08:50
From: dv
ID: 2430222
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/thomas-massie-files-articles-of-impeachment-against-pete-hegseth-20260916-p60xs1.html

Republican congressman Thomas Massie files articles of impeachment against Pete Hegseth

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Date: 16/09/2026 18:37:28
From: dv
ID: 2430228
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.threads.com/share/_6nO7WGo3/

Scott Bessent is quizzed on the administration’s inability to hire and retain qualified staff.

He tops it off with “Robert Oppenheimer was not a physicist”.

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Date: 16/09/2026 19:12:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2430236
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.threads.com/share/_6nO7WGo3/

Scott Bessent is quizzed on the administration’s inability to hire and retain qualified staff.

He tops it off with “Robert Oppenheimer was not a physicist”.

There must be lots of Robert Oppenheimers who were not physicists.

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Date: 16/09/2026 19:37:59
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430250
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tech billionaire Elon Musk has given $1.5 million to a group supporting the repeal of Alaska’s voting system, according to a report filed with the state Friday.

Ballot Measure 2, which will appear on the November ballot, seeks to repeal Alaska’s ranked choice voting method, along with open primaries and campaign finance laws that were themselves adopted by ballot measure in 2020.

Musk gave $1.5 million last month to the Aurora Action Network, a Wisconsin-based political action committee that has already collected contributions from numerous billionaire megadonors, including Dick Uihlein, Jeff Yass, Timothy Mellon and Hilcorp owner Jeffery Hildebrand. Aurora Action Network then gave the repeal campaign $1 million in late July.

Musk’s contribution, which make up a sizable share of the repeal campaign’s fundraising, could prove pivotal for the future of Alaska’s elections.

The ballot measure would revert Alaska to closed partisan primaries and pick-one general elections. It would also eliminate campaign finance laws that enable Alaska voters to know when big spenders like Musk give money to Alaska campaigns.

https://alaskapublic.org/news/politics/2026-08-11/elon-musk-spends-big-in-push-to-repeal-alaskas-voting-system

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Date: 17/09/2026 10:05:21
From: ms spock
ID: 2430344
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Sheeran Effect.

Link

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Date: 17/09/2026 10:10:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2430346
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

The Sheeran Effect.

Link

NHOH :)

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Date: 17/09/2026 10:18:21
From: ms spock
ID: 2430350
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


ms spock said:

The Sheeran Effect.

Link

NHOH :)

:)

Best to keep it that way.

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Date: 17/09/2026 10:52:35
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2430355
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JUST NOW: A confused, clearly not-there McConnell votes “AYE” after almost voting NO with Dems but getting corrected by handlers around him

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mvnyjqmbmk2c

Yeah he seems just fine really.

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Date: 17/09/2026 10:54:29
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430356
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


JUST NOW: A confused, clearly not-there McConnell votes “AYE” after almost voting NO with Dems but getting corrected by handlers around him

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mvnyjqmbmk2c

Yeah he seems just fine really.

Ya know, some people might call that voter fraud.

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Date: 17/09/2026 11:11:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2430362
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

Spiny Norman said:

JUST NOW: A confused, clearly not-there McConnell votes “AYE” after almost voting NO with Dems but getting corrected by handlers around him

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mvnyjqmbmk2c

Yeah he seems just fine really.

Ya know, some people might call that voter fraud.

well you know the republicans do have a thing about people hanging from crosses

the middle M in his name stands for aryan et

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Date: 17/09/2026 11:14:51
From: Michael V
ID: 2430368
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

JUST NOW: A confused, clearly not-there McConnell votes “AYE” after almost voting NO with Dems but getting corrected by handlers around him

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mvnyjqmbmk2c

Yeah he seems just fine really.

Ya know, some people might call that voter fraud.

LOL

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Date: 17/09/2026 11:25:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2430371
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

The Sheeran Effect.

Link

Ta. It’s an hour-long video, but there’s a 5 minute precis read there, which was well worth reading.

I saw your comment.

:D

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Date: 17/09/2026 11:27:16
From: Michael V
ID: 2430372
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


JUST NOW: A confused, clearly not-there McConnell votes “AYE” after almost voting NO with Dems but getting corrected by handlers around him

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mvnyjqmbmk2c

Yeah he seems just fine really.

…

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Date: 17/09/2026 11:58:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2430376
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

we have a better idea

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) may be bringing a COVID-19 diagnosis to Florida. In an interview with The Floridian and Texas Politics, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez said she is currently battling COVID-19 while sporting a mask.

wear the mask before having to battle SARS-CoV-2 and then all good

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Date: 17/09/2026 11:59:43
From: ms spock
ID: 2430377
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

Spiny Norman said:

JUST NOW: A confused, clearly not-there McConnell votes “AYE” after almost voting NO with Dems but getting corrected by handlers around him

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mvnyjqmbmk2c

Yeah he seems just fine really.

Ya know, some people might call that voter fraud.

well you know the republicans do have a thing about people hanging from crosses

the middle M in his name stands for aryan et

The Republicans and their crosses.

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Date: 17/09/2026 12:02:14
From: ms spock
ID: 2430378
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

we have a better idea

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) may be bringing a COVID-19 diagnosis to Florida. In an interview with The Floridian and Texas Politics, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez said she is currently battling COVID-19 while sporting a mask.

wear the mask before having to battle SARS-CoV-2 and then all good

💯 💯💯💯

And prevent the spread.

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Date: 17/09/2026 12:03:35
From: Cymek
ID: 2430381
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

we have a better idea

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) may be bringing a COVID-19 diagnosis to Florida. In an interview with The Floridian and Texas Politics, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez said she is currently battling COVID-19 while sporting a mask.

wear the mask before having to battle SARS-CoV-2 and then all good

They are just lucky they didn’t have to fight the frizzies

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Date: 17/09/2026 12:09:37
From: ms spock
ID: 2430386
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

The Sheeran Effect.

Link

Ta. It’s an hour-long video, but there’s a 5 minute precis read there, which was well worth reading.

I saw your comment.

:D

😂😂😂

I hope that you liked it 😉😂😉

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Date: 17/09/2026 13:03:16
From: dv
ID: 2430426
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Spiny Norman said:

JUST NOW: A confused, clearly not-there McConnell votes “AYE” after almost voting NO with Dems but getting corrected by handlers around him

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mvnyjqmbmk2c

Yeah he seems just fine really.

Ya know, some people might call that voter fraud.

LOL

Kind of wild that they won’t let him just retire. He should be spending these final days among loved ones.

If the Republicans do lose control of the Senate, they will try to cram as much as possible through until the change of Senate on 3 January.

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Date: 17/09/2026 13:10:13
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2430430
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Kind of wild that they won’t let him just retire. He should be spending these final days among loved ones.

The problem with that is he only loves himself. Everyone else is expendable.

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Date: 17/09/2026 13:40:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2430435
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

He should be spending these final days among loved ones.

Jesus Christ

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Date: 17/09/2026 14:28:55
From: kii
ID: 2430441
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Fencing goes up around Kennedy Center as activists worry it will be demolished | CBC News Link

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Date: 17/09/2026 14:29:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2430442
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

Fencing goes up around Kennedy Center as activists worry it will be demolished | CBC News Link


doit

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Date: 17/09/2026 14:36:01
From: Michael V
ID: 2430446
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Fencing goes up around Kennedy Center as activists worry it will be demolished | CBC News Link


FMD!

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Date: 17/09/2026 15:28:26
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430458
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 17/09/2026 15:45:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2430460
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


totally pro life

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Date: 17/09/2026 18:06:08
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2430524
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Yeeeeeah but ….
The Biden administration sent Israel a huge amount of munitions to destroy Gaza and kill Palestinians.

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Date: 17/09/2026 18:28:54
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2430537
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Okay it’s confirmed. The inmates are running the asylum.
Don’t watch this unless you want to lose some IQ points.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Trumpvirus/comments/1wiiwwj/this_video_was_played_as_part_of_the_republican/

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Date: 18/09/2026 02:25:46
From: dv
ID: 2430638
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2


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Date: 18/09/2026 11:16:33
From: Michael V
ID: 2430715
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Okay it’s confirmed. The inmates are running the asylum.
Don’t watch this unless you want to lose some IQ points.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Trumpvirus/comments/1wiiwwj/this_video_was_played_as_part_of_the_republican/

Far canal.

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Date: 18/09/2026 11:23:16
From: kii
ID: 2430721
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

Okay it’s confirmed. The inmates are running the asylum.
Don’t watch this unless you want to lose some IQ points.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Trumpvirus/comments/1wiiwwj/this_video_was_played_as_part_of_the_republican/

Far canal.

They are all insane. Every single person who makes this shit and who believes it.

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Date: 18/09/2026 11:33:59
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2430726
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I’d still really like to hop on a handy UFO and leave this planet for good.

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Date: 18/09/2026 11:45:08
From: Michael V
ID: 2430731
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


I’d still really like to hop on a handy UFO and leave this planet for good.

I’d‘ve though the reason they were playing Hitler speeches was patently obvious…

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Date: 18/09/2026 12:10:41
From: Arts
ID: 2430748
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


I’d still really like to hop on a handy UFO and leave this planet for good.

where would you go?

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Date: 18/09/2026 12:12:47
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2430751
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Arts said:


Spiny Norman said:

I’d still really like to hop on a handy UFO and leave this planet for good.

where would you go?

Some other planet with a suitable environment.

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Date: 18/09/2026 12:13:27
From: kii
ID: 2430754
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Arts said:


Spiny Norman said:

I’d still really like to hop on a handy UFO and leave this planet for good.

where would you go?

Away.

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Date: 18/09/2026 12:14:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2430755
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

Arts said:

Spiny Norman said:

I’d still really like to hop on a handy UFO and leave this planet for good.

where would you go?

Away.

Mars is where everyone wants¡

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Date: 18/09/2026 12:15:16
From: Arts
ID: 2430756
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Arts said:

Spiny Norman said:

I’d still really like to hop on a handy UFO and leave this planet for good.

where would you go?

Some other planet with a suitable environment.

when you find it, don’t blog about it

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Date: 18/09/2026 12:36:50
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2430764
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Jesse Watters is offended that Canadians don’t want to be taken over by America

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarchAgainstNazis/comments/1wja3be/jesse_watters_is_offended_that_canadians_dont/

Utterly divorced from reality.

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Date: 18/09/2026 12:41:08
From: kii
ID: 2430768
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Jesse Watters is offended that Canadians don’t want to be taken over by America

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarchAgainstNazis/comments/1wja3be/jesse_watters_is_offended_that_canadians_dont/

Utterly divorced from reality.

I can’t watch Jesse Watters, I just want to punch his smug face with a sledgehammer.

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Date: 18/09/2026 12:43:27
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2430769
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Spiny Norman said:

Jesse Watters is offended that Canadians don’t want to be taken over by America

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarchAgainstNazis/comments/1wja3be/jesse_watters_is_offended_that_canadians_dont/

Utterly divorced from reality.

I can’t watch Jesse Watters, I just want to punch his smug face with a sledgehammer.

Oh you are far too kind.

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Date: 18/09/2026 13:55:38
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2430801
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 18/09/2026 13:58:20
From: Cymek
ID: 2430803
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:



Imagine what a black light would reveal
A Jackson Pollock painting spread out over the entire room

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Date: 18/09/2026 13:59:09
From: kii
ID: 2430804
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:



😆 😹

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Date: 18/09/2026 14:37:49
From: Michael V
ID: 2430810
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:



PMSL

Thanks.

Brilliant!

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Date: 18/09/2026 14:56:30
From: ms spock
ID: 2430817
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:



Classic! Go hiontach!

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Date: 18/09/2026 15:10:02
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430821
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:



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Date: 18/09/2026 17:19:52
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430867
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

My maths might need checking here but I calculated a gallon of gasoline in Australian prices would be $8.75, based on the local price of $2.31 per litre according to PetrolSpy. USD would be approximately $9.39 per gallon.

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Date: 18/09/2026 17:20:04
From: dv
ID: 2430868
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 18/09/2026 17:30:38
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2430873
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


My maths might need checking here but I calculated a gallon of gasoline in Australian prices would be $8.75, based on the local price of $2.31 per litre according to PetrolSpy. USD would be approximately $9.39 per gallon.

Aus$8.75 is about US$6 or so I think.

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Date: 18/09/2026 17:34:35
From: Cymek
ID: 2430876
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


My maths might need checking here but I calculated a gallon of gasoline in Australian prices would be $8.75, based on the local price of $2.31 per litre according to PetrolSpy. USD would be approximately $9.39 per gallon.

It’s perhaps a good thing that even a massively powerful nation can no longer use its military might to get want it wants.

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Date: 18/09/2026 17:34:57
From: btm
ID: 2430877
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Divine Angel said:

My maths might need checking here but I calculated a gallon of gasoline in Australian prices would be $8.75, based on the local price of $2.31 per litre according to PetrolSpy. USD would be approximately $9.39 per gallon.

Aus$8.75 is about US$6 or so I think.

According to my calcs, $AU2.31/litre is about $US6.24/US gallon, at today’s exchange rate of $AU1.00 = $US0.7132

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Date: 18/09/2026 17:37:41
From: party_pants
ID: 2430879
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Divine Angel said:

My maths might need checking here but I calculated a gallon of gasoline in Australian prices would be $8.75, based on the local price of $2.31 per litre according to PetrolSpy. USD would be approximately $9.39 per gallon.

It’s perhaps a good thing that even a massively powerful nation can no longer use its military might to get want it wants.

Just remember, all this is for Israel’s benefit. They are the ones who convinced the orange dunny trumpet that this was a good idea, in spite of all his cabinet and advisors saying not to do it.

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Date: 18/09/2026 17:39:06
From: party_pants
ID: 2430880
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

btm said:


Spiny Norman said:

Divine Angel said:

My maths might need checking here but I calculated a gallon of gasoline in Australian prices would be $8.75, based on the local price of $2.31 per litre according to PetrolSpy. USD would be approximately $9.39 per gallon.

Aus$8.75 is about US$6 or so I think.

According to my calcs, $AU2.31/litre is about $US6.24/US gallon, at today’s exchange rate of $AU1.00 = $US0.7132

The other day at work we asked the Google AI bot to calculate it for us, and we got around about the same number.

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Date: 18/09/2026 17:48:09
From: Michael V
ID: 2430886
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


My maths might need checking here but I calculated a gallon of gasoline in Australian prices would be $8.75, based on the local price of $2.31 per litre according to PetrolSpy. USD would be approximately $9.39 per gallon.

No. Exchange rate is 0.71 (1 AUD buys 0.71 USD)

So cost of a US gallon of gasoline at your petrol station selling at $2.31 AUD/L is $6.21 USD.

We are cheaper than the US using those two prices.

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Date: 18/09/2026 17:49:01
From: Michael V
ID: 2430887
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



New Zealanders warmly accepted.

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Date: 18/09/2026 17:53:21
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430891
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Not only did I get it wrong, I got it wrong in a convoluted way!

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Date: 18/09/2026 18:07:40
From: kii
ID: 2430898
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 18/09/2026 18:10:59
From: dv
ID: 2430901
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:



:)

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Date: 18/09/2026 18:26:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2430904
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Cymek said:

Divine Angel said:

My maths might need checking here but I calculated a gallon of gasoline in Australian prices would be $8.75, based on the local price of $2.31 per litre according to PetrolSpy. USD would be approximately $9.39 per gallon.

It’s perhaps a good thing that even a massively powerful nation can no longer use its military might to get want it wants.

Just remember, all this is for Israel’s benefit. They are the ones who convinced the orange dunny trumpet that this was a good idea, in spite of all his cabinet and advisors saying not to do it.

do they use fuel

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Date: 18/09/2026 18:29:59
From: party_pants
ID: 2430905
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


party_pants said:

Cymek said:

It’s perhaps a good thing that even a massively powerful nation can no longer use its military might to get want it wants.

Just remember, all this is for Israel’s benefit. They are the ones who convinced the orange dunny trumpet that this was a good idea, in spite of all his cabinet and advisors saying not to do it.

do they use fuel

Yes, I’m sure all his cabinet and advisors use fuel.

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Date: 18/09/2026 18:33:23
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430906
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

Just remember, all this is for Israel’s benefit. They are the ones who convinced the orange dunny trumpet that this was a good idea, in spite of all his cabinet and advisors saying not to do it.

do they use fuel

Yes, I’m sure all his cabinet and advisors use fuel.

Wonder if the bribe jet came with a fuel card

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Date: 18/09/2026 18:39:15
From: kii
ID: 2430909
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 18/09/2026 19:14:26
From: Michael V
ID: 2430917
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:



LOLz

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Date: 18/09/2026 23:52:12
From: dv
ID: 2430956
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 19/09/2026 07:02:03
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430978
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 19/09/2026 07:14:40
From: Michael V
ID: 2430980
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



Trump knows all about corruption. He’s an expert.

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Date: 19/09/2026 07:18:45
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2430981
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



Strait out of the Hanson playbook!

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Date: 19/09/2026 07:36:21
From: Michael V
ID: 2430982
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Divine Angel said:


Strait out of the Hanson playbook!

Which strait? Hormuz? Gibraltar?

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Date: 19/09/2026 07:50:02
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2430983
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


JudgeMental said:

Divine Angel said:


Strait out of the Hanson playbook!

Which strait? Hormuz? Gibraltar?

Hormuz of course.

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Date: 19/09/2026 08:04:25
From: Michael V
ID: 2430988
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

Strait out of the Hanson playbook!

Which strait? Hormuz? Gibraltar?

Hormuz of course.

:)

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Date: 19/09/2026 11:39:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2431053
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:


Trump knows all about corruption. He’s an expert.

good news

Trump says he has struck a deal with Denmark that gives the US “permanent control” over Greenland’s security.

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Date: 19/09/2026 12:05:59
From: Michael V
ID: 2431061
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:


Trump knows all about corruption. He’s an expert.

good news

Trump says he has struck a deal with Denmark that gives the US “permanent control” over Greenland’s security.

But the bullying, threatening way he went about getting that agreement is not good news.

And it seems that Trump is changing the language. “Deal” is now substituting for several other words, including “agreement”.

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Date: 19/09/2026 12:54:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2431072
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Trump knows all about corruption. He’s an expert.

good news

Trump says he has struck a deal with Denmark that gives the US “permanent control” over Greenland’s security.

But the bullying, threatening way he went about getting that agreement is not good news.

And it seems that Trump is changing the language. “Deal” is now substituting for several other words, including “agreement”.

sorry we meant we wouldn’t consider the ussa having permanent control over the security of a large island in the southern hemisphere to be good news either

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Date: 19/09/2026 12:59:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2431075
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:


Trump knows all about corruption. He’s an expert.

Strait out of the Hanson playbook!

Which strait? Hormuz? Gibraltar?

Hormuz of course.

:)

yousr ABC picked up the story

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-19/trump-bans-cnn-msnow-politico-from-white-house/107171850

how good is press freedom and speech freedom

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Date: 19/09/2026 18:19:02
From: dv
ID: 2431149
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Finally some real news

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Date: 19/09/2026 18:21:00
From: kii
ID: 2431151
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Finally some real news

Lololol 😹

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Date: 19/09/2026 18:25:41
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2431153
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Finally some real news

sings
Oh I’m putting on my top hat
Tying up my white tie
Brushing off my tails

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Date: 19/09/2026 20:03:28
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2431176
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

A Marriage of Convenience

George F. Will joined The Washington Post when Richard Nixon was president, and he’s been espousing the same cerebral brand of conservatism twice a week ever since. His record doesn’t leave much room for surprise. And yet, there Will was on September 16, encouraging South Carolina voters to elect not Darline Graham, the Donald Trump protégé and newly appointed Republican senator vying for a complete term, but Annie Andrews, a Democrat running on a platform that includes abortion rights, expanded health entitlements, and higher wages for workers.

Around the same time, Karl Rove—who’s been deeply enmeshed in Republican politics since he was a teenager in the 1960s—announced that this fall he would vote for a Democrat for only the second time in his life rather than support Bo French, the GOP nominee for Texas railroad commissioner, following racist remarks French made about South Asian students at the University of Texas. (Rove didn’t couch his remarks as a commentary on Trump, but the president correctly understood it as pushback on Trumpism, and attacked Rove.)

Each of these record-scratch moments is a distinctive product of the Trump era. The desire to resist the president continues to create some strange bedfellows, but the question is whether this alliance can survive the end of the Trump presidency—and, if not, what will become of its parts.

Over the past decade, disgust with Trump has led many Republicans and conservatives to disavow him or the GOP—some over policy (for example, Trump’s critique of free trade), others over character (say, the Access Hollywood video), and still others over some combination thereof. Some who opposed Trump in 2016 made their peace once he won the election. In January 2016, National Review gathered a range of conservative writers in an “Against Trump” package. Today, many of those writers have broken for Trump, and the magazine generally supports the president.

Others, however, have remained firm—those now known as “never-Trumpers.” Five years ago, my colleague David Frum quoted a common dismissal: “Never Trump is not a political party. It is a dinner party.” But, as Frum wrote, raw numbers understate never-Trumpers’ impact. The combination of disaffected Republican and independent voters and prominent anti-Trump pundits has helped establish an important political bloc. An anti-MAGA majority emerged in the 2018, 2020, and 2022 elections, improbably including both the democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the quintessential neoconservative Bill Kristol. The bloc splintered in 2024 but appears to be reconstituting itself ahead of the midterm elections.

The never-Trump group includes distinct factions. Although moderate Republicans are heavily represented in the exodus, some members, such as former Representative Liz Cheney, are very conservative. Some emphasize that they remain on the right. Jeff Flake, a former senator from Arizona, served as an ambassador in the Biden administration, but he recently told my colleague Adam Harris, “I’m still a registered Republican, and I’m hoping that the party returns to its previous kind of tenets of limited government, economic freedom, individual responsibility, strong American leadership abroad.” Many have registered as independents, and others have become Democrats. As that party moves left, Never-Trumpers have become the party’s de facto moderate wing. Kristol now sometimes takes positions bolder than and to the left of Democratic Party leaders’, and has embraced “Woke Bill Kristol” memes.

As Trump slides toward lame-duck status, cleavages within the group and between it and traditional progressives are becoming more salient. Some stalwart anti-Trumpers and former Republicans have unsuccessfully run for office as Democrats. Geoff Duncan, a former GOP lieutenant governor of Georgia who spoke at the 2024 Democratic National Convention, lost the Democratic primary for governor this year. The lawyer and writer George Conway finished fifth in a Manhattan U.S. House primary. Frequent appearances on MS NOW can make someone a hero to progressives, but that doesn’t necessarily translate into votes.

The prominence of avowedly left-wing candidates also puts pressure on the coalition. Former Republicans could make their peace with Joe Biden, but Democrats such as New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani and the Michigan U.S. Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed are going to be tougher sells if you’re in favor of small government or a close alliance with Israel. Trump’s war with Iran has also created tensions, with some neocons including Kristol backing the concept of attacking Iran even as they’ve criticized the way Trump is handling it.

Upheaval might be coming to political media too. Disaffected conservatives have created new publications, such as The Bulwark and The Contrarian, that cater to a spectrum of readers, from moderate Republicans to mainstream Democrats. Other defectors have prominent posts in liberal outlets: Nicolle Wallace, a former George W. Bush communications director, hosts a daily show on MS NOW, and David French is a New York Times columnist. What will become of these audiences when resisting Trump is no longer a unifying force? Some readers and viewers may stick around and even start to hear conservative ideas more sympathetically, but others who currently thrill at seeing former conservatives skewering Trump may find that they no longer have much politically in common with the pundits.

Although the establishment of the broad pro-democracy bloc that set aside other disagreements was a necessary response to a political crisis, its eventual dissolution will also probably be a sign of civic health. Although they agree on democratic norms, the anti-Trump factions have valid disagreements on a range of policies, which are hard to hash out under one tent. (Consider Democratic Party leaders’ struggles to maintain unity.) In a healthy country, politics isn’t organized entirely around one person. Such a situation leaves only two options: for and against. An even better system might allow for a range of small parties that could form and dissolve many overlapping, ad hoc coalitions around specific issues of agreement, but the current U.S. electoral structure makes more than two parties all but impossible. Perhaps the end of the Trump era will clear the way for reforms that will not only restore but also improve American democracy.

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Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos…

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Date: 20/09/2026 18:50:35
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2431508
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 20/09/2026 19:07:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2431513
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



LOL

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Date: 20/09/2026 20:14:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2431522
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:


LOL

don’t worry the spot fires they played a role in starting will merge with other blazes into a great global conflagration soon enough and then everyone will be happy they allied with the strong safe country instead of others

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Date: 20/09/2026 20:28:15
From: dv
ID: 2431525
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

So it would appear that the Denmark / US deal results in exactly the same agreement that obtained before.

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Date: 20/09/2026 20:34:02
From: party_pants
ID: 2431526
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


So it would appear that the Denmark / US deal results in exactly the same agreement that obtained before.

Yes, since the 1950s.

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Date: 20/09/2026 20:36:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431527
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


dv said:

So it would appear that the Denmark / US deal results in exactly the same agreement that obtained before.

Yes, since the 1950s.

So Trump is talking through his hat again.

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Date: 20/09/2026 20:51:08
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2431531
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


dv said:

So it would appear that the Denmark / US deal results in exactly the same agreement that obtained before.

Yes, since the 1950s.

And let that be a lesson for them.
dusts hands

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:08:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431532
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

So it would appear that the Denmark / US deal results in exactly the same agreement that obtained before.

Yes, since the 1950s.

And let that be a lesson for them.
dusts hands

Phew. Wipes brow.

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:15:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2431535
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

So it would appear that the Denmark / US deal results in exactly the same agreement that obtained before.

Yes, since the 1950s.

And let that be a lesson for them.
dusts hands

So when is he going to achieve a similar deal with Iran?

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:18:00
From: party_pants
ID: 2431538
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

Yes, since the 1950s.

And let that be a lesson for them.
dusts hands

So when is he going to achieve a similar deal with Iran?

Accept defeat and walk away while claiming victory?

Hopefully qithin the next couple of weeks.

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:18:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431539
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

Yes, since the 1950s.

And let that be a lesson for them.
dusts hands

So when is he going to achieve a similar deal with Iran?

That, is one of those, ‘good questions’.

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:18:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431540
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And let that be a lesson for them.
dusts hands

So when is he going to achieve a similar deal with Iran?

Accept defeat and walk away while claiming victory?

Hopefully qithin the next couple of weeks.

He doesn’t know how to do that.

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:24:19
From: party_pants
ID: 2431543
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So when is he going to achieve a similar deal with Iran?

Accept defeat and walk away while claiming victory?

Hopefully qithin the next couple of weeks.

He doesn’t know how to do that.

He needs to do it prior to the mid-term elections. People are blaming him for the high fuel prices, especially diesel. This is going to cause huge inflation in the US because everything moves by truck. High inflation is going to end in higher interest rates. A whole doom loop pain cycle for ordinary people. if he doesn’t break the loop soon the USAlien voting public are going tp hammer him in November.

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:30:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431545
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Accept defeat and walk away while claiming victory?

Hopefully qithin the next couple of weeks.

He doesn’t know how to do that.

He needs to do it prior to the mid-term elections. People are blaming him for the high fuel prices, especially diesel. This is going to cause huge inflation in the US because everything moves by truck. High inflation is going to end in higher interest rates. A whole doom loop pain cycle for ordinary people. if he doesn’t break the loop soon the USAlien voting public are going tp hammer him in November.

We know that but he either doesn’t or won’t acknowledge.

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:35:20
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2431548
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


So it would appear that the Denmark / US deal results in exactly the same agreement that obtained before.

there are differences. Greenland is included as opposed to the previous US Norwegian agreement. US has final say in who is allowed to have critical infrastructure. and a few other things.

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:37:16
From: party_pants
ID: 2431549
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

He doesn’t know how to do that.

He needs to do it prior to the mid-term elections. People are blaming him for the high fuel prices, especially diesel. This is going to cause huge inflation in the US because everything moves by truck. High inflation is going to end in higher interest rates. A whole doom loop pain cycle for ordinary people. if he doesn’t break the loop soon the USAlien voting public are going tp hammer him in November.

We know that but he either doesn’t or won’t acknowledge.

He can’t admit to being a loser in anything, this is why he needs to declare victory even if he lost. The lying through his teeth bit comes naturally.

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:38:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431551
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


dv said:

So it would appear that the Denmark / US deal results in exactly the same agreement that obtained before.

there are differences. Greenland is included as opposed to the previous US Norwegian agreement. US has final say in who is allowed to have critical infrastructure. and a few other things.

Trump appears to be happy.

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:38:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431552
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

He needs to do it prior to the mid-term elections. People are blaming him for the high fuel prices, especially diesel. This is going to cause huge inflation in the US because everything moves by truck. High inflation is going to end in higher interest rates. A whole doom loop pain cycle for ordinary people. if he doesn’t break the loop soon the USAlien voting public are going tp hammer him in November.

We know that but he either doesn’t or won’t acknowledge.

He can’t admit to being a loser in anything, this is why he needs to declare victory even if he lost. The lying through his teeth bit comes naturally.

Yeah.

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:49:56
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2431554
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


dv said:

So it would appear that the Denmark / US deal results in exactly the same agreement that obtained before.

there are differences. Greenland is included as opposed to the previous US Norwegian agreement. US has final say in who is allowed to have critical infrastructure. and a few other things.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BX0JI2xC9Do

Link

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:51:49
From: dv
ID: 2431556
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

Yes, since the 1950s.

And let that be a lesson for them.
dusts hands

So when is he going to achieve a similar deal with Iran?

I fear that ship may have sailed

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Date: 20/09/2026 21:56:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2431557
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And let that be a lesson for them.
dusts hands

So when is he going to achieve a similar deal with Iran?

I fear that ship may have sailed

how did it get through the strait

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Date: 20/09/2026 22:15:50
From: kii
ID: 2431562
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


So it would appear that the Denmark / US deal results in exactly the same agreement that obtained before.

Yes. The Danish government just rewrapped a toy the toddler already had and presented it as a new one. Which made him happy. Or something.

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Date: 20/09/2026 22:18:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431565
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So when is he going to achieve a similar deal with Iran?

I fear that ship may have sailed

how did it get through the strait

That’s the thing…

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Date: 20/09/2026 22:49:42
From: kii
ID: 2431570
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:

So it would appear that the Denmark / US deal results in exactly the same agreement that obtained before.

Yes. The Danish government just rewrapped a toy the toddler already had and presented it as a new one. Which made him happy. Or something.

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Date: 21/09/2026 02:21:58
From: dv
ID: 2431575
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 21/09/2026 08:36:14
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2431593
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

FFS …

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Date: 21/09/2026 08:39:31
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2431596
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


FFS …

Even in the unlikely event that it will be built I don’t expect it would survive the fallout once MAGA madness comes to an end.

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Date: 21/09/2026 08:40:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2431597
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


kii said:

dv said:

So it would appear that the Denmark / US deal results in exactly the same agreement that obtained before.

Yes. The Danish government just rewrapped a toy the toddler already had and presented it as a new one. Which made him happy. Or something.


LOL

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Date: 21/09/2026 09:07:39
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2431605
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


FFS …

Hoo boy, are they gonna have a great time toppling his ego trip monuments during the next Civil War.

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Date: 21/09/2026 09:28:16
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2431611
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Just in case anyone asks.

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Date: 21/09/2026 09:45:07
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2431621
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Another ICE shooting in the US recently.

https://bsky.app/profile/repcasar.bsky.social/post/3mvxwnirx4c24

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Date: 21/09/2026 09:59:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2431629
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

FFS …

Hoo boy, are they gonna have a great time toppling his ego trip monuments during the next Civil War.

what, cancel cultists, nobody cares about them

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Date: 21/09/2026 10:11:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431636
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


FFS …

Oh please let this malarky all end soon.

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Date: 21/09/2026 10:12:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2431637
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

FFS …

Oh please let this malarky all end soon.

careful what yous wish for

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/20/baltic-spy-chiefs-warn-moscow-is-preparing-for-more-decisive-action-in-europe

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Date: 21/09/2026 10:18:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431641
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

FFS …

Oh please let this malarky all end soon.

careful what yous wish for

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/20/baltic-spy-chiefs-warn-moscow-is-preparing-for-more-decisive-action-in-europe

Yes it is all a bit scary at the moment.

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Date: 21/09/2026 10:18:58
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2431642
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Divine Angel said:

Spiny Norman said:

FFS …

Hoo boy, are they gonna have a great time toppling his ego trip monuments during the next Civil War.

what, cancel cultists, nobody cares about them

I’m curious about the ‘large quantities of sniper ammunition’. This is the same sort of thing that he says about the Geoffrey Epstein Memorial Ballroom.

How many ‘snipers’ does this bozo think he’s going to need, and who does he think that they’re going to be using those ‘large quantities of sniper ammunition’ against? It sounds like he expects them to be lodged up there for days on end, blazing away at multitudes.

Snipers don’t work like that. They don’t need, or carry, lots of ammunition. If they don’t hit their target on the first shot, they’ve probably failed. In extremis, they may linger long enough to take a third shot, if necessary, but none would hang around longer.

They take a shot, maybe two, and then they bug out. Because the people being shot at do three things:

1. they quickly realise there’s a sniper about

2. they put a lot of effort into working out where the sniper is

3. they do something about the sniper. In normal times, they call the cops, and heavily-armed police intervene.

In times of military action/civil unrest, the sniper can expect massed small-arms fire, rocket-propelled grenades, mortar fire, or artillery.

Isolated on top of an arch, those snipers will have a short operational endurance.

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Date: 21/09/2026 10:22:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431644
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

Hoo boy, are they gonna have a great time toppling his ego trip monuments during the next Civil War.

what, cancel cultists, nobody cares about them

I’m curious about the ‘large quantities of sniper ammunition’. This is the same sort of thing that he says about the Geoffrey Epstein Memorial Ballroom.

How many ‘snipers’ does this bozo think he’s going to need, and who does he think that they’re going to be using those ‘large quantities of sniper ammunition’ against? It sounds like he expects them to be lodged up there for days on end, blazing away at multitudes.

Snipers don’t work like that. They don’t need, or carry, lots of ammunition. If they don’t hit their target on the first shot, they’ve probably failed. In extremis, they may linger long enough to take a third shot, if necessary, but none would hang around longer.

They take a shot, maybe two, and then they bug out. Because the people being shot at do three things:

1. they quickly realise there’s a sniper about

2. they put a lot of effort into working out where the sniper is

3. they do something about the sniper. In normal times, they call the cops, and heavily-armed police intervene.

In times of military action/civil unrest, the sniper can expect massed small-arms fire, rocket-propelled grenades, mortar fire, or artillery.

Isolated on top of an arch, those snipers will have a short operational endurance.

Agree. But what Trump is worried about is an insurgency from those fake news people.

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Date: 21/09/2026 10:25:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2431647
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

Hoo boy, are they gonna have a great time toppling his ego trip monuments during the next Civil War.

what, cancel cultists, nobody cares about them

I’m curious about the ‘large quantities of sniper ammunition’. This is the same sort of thing that he says about the Geoffrey Epstein Memorial Ballroom.

How many ‘snipers’ does this bozo think he’s going to need, and who does he think that they’re going to be using those ‘large quantities of sniper ammunition’ against? It sounds like he expects them to be lodged up there for days on end, blazing away at multitudes.

Snipers don’t work like that. They don’t need, or carry, lots of ammunition. If they don’t hit their target on the first shot, they’ve probably failed. In extremis, they may linger long enough to take a third shot, if necessary, but none would hang around longer.

They take a shot, maybe two, and then they bug out. Because the people being shot at do three things:

1. they quickly realise there’s a sniper about

2. they put a lot of effort into working out where the sniper is

3. they do something about the sniper. In normal times, they call the cops, and heavily-armed police intervene.

In times of military action/civil unrest, the sniper can expect massed small-arms fire, rocket-propelled grenades, mortar fire, or artillery.

Isolated on top of an arch, those snipers will have a short operational endurance.

^

but we mean apart from in movies, wtf military function is a sore thumb monument going to serve, it all read like fantasy to be honest

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Date: 21/09/2026 11:00:43
From: dv
ID: 2431663
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I bet Brioni don’t mention this much

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Date: 21/09/2026 11:02:49
From: kii
ID: 2431666
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


I bet Brioni don’t mention this much

He was wearing a different pair of pants recently with a fairly tapered leg.

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Date: 21/09/2026 11:21:57
From: Michael V
ID: 2431671
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

Hoo boy, are they gonna have a great time toppling his ego trip monuments during the next Civil War.

what, cancel cultists, nobody cares about them

I’m curious about the ‘large quantities of sniper ammunition’. This is the same sort of thing that he says about the Geoffrey Epstein Memorial Ballroom.

How many ‘snipers’ does this bozo think he’s going to need, and who does he think that they’re going to be using those ‘large quantities of sniper ammunition’ against? It sounds like he expects them to be lodged up there for days on end, blazing away at multitudes.

Snipers don’t work like that. They don’t need, or carry, lots of ammunition. If they don’t hit their target on the first shot, they’ve probably failed. In extremis, they may linger long enough to take a third shot, if necessary, but none would hang around longer.

They take a shot, maybe two, and then they bug out. Because the people being shot at do three things:

1. they quickly realise there’s a sniper about

2. they put a lot of effort into working out where the sniper is

3. they do something about the sniper. In normal times, they call the cops, and heavily-armed police intervene.

In times of military action/civil unrest, the sniper can expect massed small-arms fire, rocket-propelled grenades, mortar fire, or artillery.

Isolated on top of an arch, those snipers will have a short operational endurance.

Yeah.

Trump is talking shit again. In fact, it rarely stops dribbling out both ends.

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Date: 21/09/2026 11:22:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2431673
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 21/09/2026 12:23:14
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2431708
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

With a bit over 40 days to go to the midterms, polling results have the Dems at +8.6 on the generic ballot – which is interesting because now polls are moving from registered voters to likely voters.

This result has the Dems at a 65% change to take the senate and an almost 90% chance to take the house

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Date: 21/09/2026 12:48:00
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2431709
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Let’s not get too cheery about the mid-terms/

In 2016, anyone and everyone was predicting that Trump didn’t stand a chance against Clinton, American voters weren’t that stupid.

In 2024, after he’d had four years to show Americans what he was like, the odds against him being re-elected were considered to be astronomical.

Yet, here we are

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Date: 21/09/2026 13:10:46
From: Michael V
ID: 2431713
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Let’s not get too cheery about the mid-terms/

In 2016, anyone and everyone was predicting that Trump didn’t stand a chance against Clinton, American voters weren’t that stupid.

In 2024, after he’d had four years to show Americans what he was like, the odds against him being re-elected were considered to be astronomical.

Yet, here we are

Nods.

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Date: 21/09/2026 13:13:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2431715
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

In 2024, after he’d had four years to show Americans what he was like, the odds against him being re-elected were considered to be astronomical.

No they weren’t.

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Date: 21/09/2026 13:49:21
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2431719
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

In 2024, after he’d had four years to show Americans what he was like, the odds against him being re-elected were considered to be astronomical.

That’s not true – most models had the 2024 election at close to 50:50

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Date: 21/09/2026 14:21:24
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2431737
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I can’t believe this is not a meme.

President Donald Trump releases new poll on his Truth Social account, allowing users to vote on a new name to replace Artificial Intelligence to Superior Intelligence, or Extreme Intelligence.

“‘Supreme Intelligence,’ probably because of its relationship to the Supreme Court, is losing badly to both ‘Superior’ and ‘Extreme Intelligence.’ Therefore, we are going to take ‘Supreme Intelligence’ OUT, deleting it as a qualifier, and let you vote for the Final Two: Superior Intelligence, or Extreme Intelligence. A fresh Vote begins now!” Trump wrote.

https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/trump-releases-new-poll-find-replacement-term-ai

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Date: 21/09/2026 14:41:10
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2431758
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 21/09/2026 14:43:00
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2431760
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:



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Date: 21/09/2026 14:44:09
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2431762
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:



Perzakally.

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Date: 21/09/2026 14:44:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431763
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:



One daft pussy.

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Date: 21/09/2026 14:45:30
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2431765
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


I can’t believe this is not a meme.

President Donald Trump releases new poll on his Truth Social account, allowing users to vote on a new name to replace Artificial Intelligence to Superior Intelligence, or Extreme Intelligence.

“‘Supreme Intelligence,’ probably because of its relationship to the Supreme Court, is losing badly to both ‘Superior’ and ‘Extreme Intelligence.’ Therefore, we are going to take ‘Supreme Intelligence’ OUT, deleting it as a qualifier, and let you vote for the Final Two: Superior Intelligence, or Extreme Intelligence. A fresh Vote begins now!” Trump wrote.

https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/trump-releases-new-poll-find-replacement-term-ai


FWIW here’s the previous snippet of his wisdom about it. More context, etc.

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Date: 21/09/2026 14:46:48
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2431767
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Divine Angel said:

I can’t believe this is not a meme.

President Donald Trump releases new poll on his Truth Social account, allowing users to vote on a new name to replace Artificial Intelligence to Superior Intelligence, or Extreme Intelligence.

“‘Supreme Intelligence,’ probably because of its relationship to the Supreme Court, is losing badly to both ‘Superior’ and ‘Extreme Intelligence.’ Therefore, we are going to take ‘Supreme Intelligence’ OUT, deleting it as a qualifier, and let you vote for the Final Two: Superior Intelligence, or Extreme Intelligence. A fresh Vote begins now!” Trump wrote.

https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/trump-releases-new-poll-find-replacement-term-ai


FWIW here’s the previous snippet of his wisdom about it. More context, etc.

Got it this time …

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Date: 21/09/2026 14:47:00
From: Michael V
ID: 2431768
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:



Therein lies the problem…

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Date: 21/09/2026 14:48:27
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2431772
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Spiny Norman said:

Divine Angel said:

I can’t believe this is not a meme.

President Donald Trump releases new poll on his Truth Social account, allowing users to vote on a new name to replace Artificial Intelligence to Superior Intelligence, or Extreme Intelligence.

“‘Supreme Intelligence,’ probably because of its relationship to the Supreme Court, is losing badly to both ‘Superior’ and ‘Extreme Intelligence.’ Therefore, we are going to take ‘Supreme Intelligence’ OUT, deleting it as a qualifier, and let you vote for the Final Two: Superior Intelligence, or Extreme Intelligence. A fresh Vote begins now!” Trump wrote.

https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/trump-releases-new-poll-find-replacement-term-ai


FWIW here’s the previous snippet of his wisdom about it. More context, etc.

Got it this time …

tbh I was expecting him to name it after himself, what with his biggliest intelligence in history n all…

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Date: 21/09/2026 15:04:52
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2431777
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:


Therein lies the problem…

I always take these sorts of things with a grain of salt unless they include a direct link to the original post, but that aside… There is soooo much rage-baiting that goes on that it’s hard to know what’s actually true, what’s shitposting and what is purposeful social engineering that has been design to create outrage.

All people can do when these sorts of concerns are raised is explain that prices in the US are high because of direct policy decisions made by the administration – there are no external global factors at play here; this is all the result of tariffs and an oil shock due to the war against Iran.

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Date: 21/09/2026 15:09:21
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2431779
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:


Therein lies the problem…

I always take these sorts of things with a grain of salt unless they include a direct link to the original post, but that aside… There is soooo much rage-baiting that goes on that it’s hard to know what’s actually true, what’s shitposting and what is purposeful social engineering that has been design to create outrage.

All people can do when these sorts of concerns are raised is explain that prices in the US are high because of direct policy decisions made by the administration – there are no external global factors at play here; this is all the result of tariffs and an oil shock due to the war against Iran.

There was a post here the other day about a content creator deliberately saying a word salad about the Lindsay Clancy case. The replies on her post were from bots, even threatening her due to her perceived stance, when in reality, she was just saying words in a random order.

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Date: 21/09/2026 15:18:43
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2431784
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


diddly-squat said:

Michael V said:

Therein lies the problem…

I always take these sorts of things with a grain of salt unless they include a direct link to the original post, but that aside… There is soooo much rage-baiting that goes on that it’s hard to know what’s actually true, what’s shitposting and what is purposeful social engineering that has been design to create outrage.

All people can do when these sorts of concerns are raised is explain that prices in the US are high because of direct policy decisions made by the administration – there are no external global factors at play here; this is all the result of tariffs and an oil shock due to the war against Iran.

There was a post here the other day about a content creator deliberately saying a word salad about the Lindsay Clancy case. The replies on her post were from bots, even threatening her due to her perceived stance, when in reality, she was just saying words in a random order.

I think people totally underestimate how much of an issue social engineering is on these platforms. People just see an account with a post history and a photo of a smiling 30-something-year-old woman and assume that the person must be real.

At best, bots are used to reinforce beliefs inside echo-chambers and at worst, are designed to deliberately, and potentially nefariously, spread misinformation.

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Date: 21/09/2026 15:26:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2431789
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:



“Yes, i signed up to repeatedly hit myself in the head with half a brick, but i didn’t expect all this pain and damage, or all this blood!”

“But, you will continue to bash your own head with a brick?”

“Of course i will.”

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Date: 21/09/2026 15:26:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431790
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Divine Angel said:

diddly-squat said:

I always take these sorts of things with a grain of salt unless they include a direct link to the original post, but that aside… There is soooo much rage-baiting that goes on that it’s hard to know what’s actually true, what’s shitposting and what is purposeful social engineering that has been design to create outrage.

All people can do when these sorts of concerns are raised is explain that prices in the US are high because of direct policy decisions made by the administration – there are no external global factors at play here; this is all the result of tariffs and an oil shock due to the war against Iran.

There was a post here the other day about a content creator deliberately saying a word salad about the Lindsay Clancy case. The replies on her post were from bots, even threatening her due to her perceived stance, when in reality, she was just saying words in a random order.

I think people totally underestimate how much of an issue social engineering is on these platforms. People just see an account with a post history and a photo of a smiling 30-something-year-old woman and assume that the person must be real.

At best, bots are used to reinforce beliefs inside echo-chambers and at worst, are designed to deliberately, and potentially nefariously, spread misinformation.

Agreed. However there are those who accept this misinformation.

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Date: 21/09/2026 15:27:52
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2431791
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


diddly-squat said:

Divine Angel said:

There was a post here the other day about a content creator deliberately saying a word salad about the Lindsay Clancy case. The replies on her post were from bots, even threatening her due to her perceived stance, when in reality, she was just saying words in a random order.

I think people totally underestimate how much of an issue social engineering is on these platforms. People just see an account with a post history and a photo of a smiling 30-something-year-old woman and assume that the person must be real.

At best, bots are used to reinforce beliefs inside echo-chambers and at worst, are designed to deliberately, and potentially nefariously, spread misinformation.

Agreed. However there are those who accept this misinformation.

Pfft, who needs critical thinking anyway?

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Date: 21/09/2026 15:41:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2431794
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


captain_spalding said:

In 2024, after he’d had four years to show Americans what he was like, the odds against him being re-elected were considered to be astronomical.

No they weren’t.

I’ve been wrong before.

And it felt exactly like this.

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Date: 21/09/2026 15:53:25
From: Arts
ID: 2431798
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

I think people totally underestimate how much of an issue social engineering is on these platforms. People just see an account with a post history and a photo of a smiling 30-something-year-old woman and assume that the person must be real.

At best, bots are used to reinforce beliefs inside echo-chambers and at worst, are designed to deliberately, and potentially nefariously, spread misinformation.

Agreed. However there are those who accept this misinformation.

Pfft, who needs critical thinking anyway?

certainly not some of the students whose work I’m currently marking

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Date: 21/09/2026 16:19:24
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2431803
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cheesus, what a dickhead.

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Date: 21/09/2026 16:30:27
From: Ian
ID: 2431809
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 21/09/2026 16:37:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2431812
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Arts said:


Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Agreed. However there are those who accept this misinformation.

Pfft, who needs critical thinking anyway?

certainly not some of the students whose work I’m currently marking

Whip them into shape.

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Date: 21/09/2026 17:22:59
From: ms spock
ID: 2431830
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Let’s not get too cheery about the mid-terms/

In 2016, anyone and everyone was predicting that Trump didn’t stand a chance against Clinton, American voters weren’t that stupid.

In 2024, after he’d had four years to show Americans what he was like, the odds against him being re-elected were considered to be astronomical.

Yet, here we are

Indeed we are and it is excruciating at times.

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Date: 21/09/2026 17:26:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2431832
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

I can’t believe this is not a meme.

President Donald Trump releases new poll on his Truth Social account, allowing users to vote on a new name to replace Artificial Intelligence to Superior Intelligence, or Extreme Intelligence.

“‘Supreme Intelligence,’ probably because of its relationship to the Supreme Court, is losing badly to both ‘Superior’ and ‘Extreme Intelligence.’ Therefore, we are going to take ‘Supreme Intelligence’ OUT, deleting it as a qualifier, and let you vote for the Final Two: Superior Intelligence, or Extreme Intelligence. A fresh Vote begins now!” Trump wrote.

https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/trump-releases-new-poll-find-replacement-term-ai


pretty sure war is peace and freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength

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Date: 21/09/2026 17:27:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2431834
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Let’s not get too cheery about the mid-terms/

In 2016, anyone and everyone was predicting that Trump didn’t stand a chance against Clinton, American voters weren’t that stupid.

In 2024, after he’d had four years to show Americans what he was like, the odds against him being re-elected were considered to be astronomical.

Yet, here we are

pretty sure this is team sports working as intended

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Date: 21/09/2026 17:42:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2431848
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 21/09/2026 17:47:34
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2431853
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Arts said:


Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Agreed. However there are those who accept this misinformation.

Pfft, who needs critical thinking anyway?

certainly not some of the students whose work I’m currently marking

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Date: 21/09/2026 18:22:29
From: ms spock
ID: 2431867
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Another reason for the billionaires concern about AI.

Link

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Date: 21/09/2026 18:37:02
From: ms spock
ID: 2431876
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Sheeran Effect (The Streisand Effect rejigged)

Link

2 minutes

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Date: 21/09/2026 18:42:22
From: Arts
ID: 2431878
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:



the word of the day is baffuckled – so completely bewildered by someone’s behaviour that ordinary confusion doesn’t cover it. The state of staring silently while your brain desperately attempts to understand how a functioning adult arrived at such a fucking ridiculous decision.

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Date: 21/09/2026 18:48:05
From: Michael V
ID: 2431879
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

Another reason for the billionaires concern about AI.

Link

Hmmm.

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Date: 21/09/2026 19:33:59
From: dv
ID: 2431887
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Let’s not get too cheery about the mid-terms/

In 2016, anyone and everyone was predicting that Trump didn’t stand a chance against Clinton, American voters weren’t that stupid.

In 2024, after he’d had four years to show Americans what he was like, the odds against him being re-elected were considered to be astronomical.

Yet, here we are

In 2016, the pollsters gave Trump about a 38% of victory.
In 2024, 50%. He and Harris were level pegging a week out from the election.

The victories were sad but not shocking. The results were within the margins of error given by the polling averages.

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Date: 21/09/2026 19:38:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2431890
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

captain_spalding said:


Let’s not get too cheery about the mid-terms/

In 2016, anyone and everyone was predicting that Trump didn’t stand a chance against Clinton, American voters weren’t that stupid.

In 2024, after he’d had four years to show Americans what he was like, the odds against him being re-elected were considered to be astronomical.

Yet, here we are

In 2016, the pollsters gave Trump about a 38% of victory.
In 2024, 50%. He and Harris were level pegging a week out from the election.

The victories were sad but not shocking. The results were within the margins of error given by the polling averages.

Mybe they’ll pick a bloke to run against him for his third term.

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Date: 21/09/2026 19:39:48
From: dv
ID: 2431891
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www2.thedailybeast.com/hegseth-hosts-reality-tv-paul-brothers-at-pentagon-to-lecture-troops

Lol wtf

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Date: 22/09/2026 01:30:57
From: dv
ID: 2431962
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Adam Kinzinger is a military veteran who served for 20 years in the Air Force and National Guard, including multiple tours of Iraq and Afghanistan. We was also a Republican congressman from 2011 to 2023.


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Date: 22/09/2026 01:52:38
From: kii
ID: 2431963
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Adam Kinzinger is a military veteran who served for 20 years in the Air Force and National Guard, including multiple tours of Iraq and Afghanistan. We was also a Republican congressman from 2011 to 2023.



Also, Kinzinger was on the J6 committee.

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Date: 22/09/2026 05:27:11
From: ms spock
ID: 2431964
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Greetings Earthlings

I woke up at 4am and I can’t go back to sleep. I might as well get up and do some things.

Currently it is 16° possibly with a high of 26°.

Humidity is 83%.

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Date: 22/09/2026 05:28:00
From: ms spock
ID: 2431965
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

Greetings Earthlings

I woke up at 4am and I can’t go back to sleep. I might as well get up and do some things.

Currently it is 16° possibly with a high of 26°.

Humidity is 83%.

Wrong fred

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Date: 22/09/2026 08:12:02
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2431985
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Geddry is feeling mischievous.

Today’s official White House schedule contains what may be the funniest line in Washington:

1:45 PM – The President participates in a Ribbon Cutting Ceremony. The White House. Out-of-Town Travel Pool.

There is just one small production problem. As of this morning, there is no TV pool.

Roll Call still lists the ceremony as an “Out-of-Town Travel Pool” event. But this morning the five networks that actually provide the rotating television pool, ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC and, gloriously, Fox News, announced that they are suspending pooled coverage after the White House prevented CNN from taking its scheduled turn.

Fox Washington bureau chief Bryan Boughton, currently chairing the pool, made the logistics admirably clear:

“There will be no replacement pool put in place.”

Which brings us back to 1:45.

There will be a president, a ribbon, and possibly giant ceremonial scissors.

What there will not be, unless something changes, is the network camera crew normally assigned to turn the whole thing into television.

Perhaps Real America’s Voice can dispatch somebody, or a favored influencer like Laura Loomer with a fully charged iPhone 18 Pro can cover it.

It is an extraordinary little production snafu for a White House that has made television access such a central part of presidential appearances: after barring CNN from performing its assigned pool duty, the administration discovered that the other four networks were not waiting eagerly to inherit CNN’s camera slot. Fox joined them.

Today’s episode of Governance as Content has encountered an ancient broadcasting problem:

No camera. No feed. At 1:45, a ribbon may be cut. Please hold your phone horizontally.

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Date: 22/09/2026 08:17:01
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2431987
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Geddry is feeling mischievous.

Today’s official White House schedule contains what may be the funniest line in Washington:

1:45 PM – The President participates in a Ribbon Cutting Ceremony. The White House. Out-of-Town Travel Pool.

There is just one small production problem. As of this morning, there is no TV pool.

Roll Call still lists the ceremony as an “Out-of-Town Travel Pool” event. But this morning the five networks that actually provide the rotating television pool, ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC and, gloriously, Fox News, announced that they are suspending pooled coverage after the White House prevented CNN from taking its scheduled turn.

Fox Washington bureau chief Bryan Boughton, currently chairing the pool, made the logistics admirably clear:

“There will be no replacement pool put in place.”

Which brings us back to 1:45.

There will be a president, a ribbon, and possibly giant ceremonial scissors.

What there will not be, unless something changes, is the network camera crew normally assigned to turn the whole thing into television.

Perhaps Real America’s Voice can dispatch somebody, or a favored influencer like Laura Loomer with a fully charged iPhone 18 Pro can cover it.

It is an extraordinary little production snafu for a White House that has made television access such a central part of presidential appearances: after barring CNN from performing its assigned pool duty, the administration discovered that the other four networks were not waiting eagerly to inherit CNN’s camera slot. Fox joined them.

Today’s episode of Governance as Content has encountered an ancient broadcasting problem:

No camera. No feed. At 1:45, a ribbon may be cut. Please hold your phone horizontally.

That’s what AI is for. That, and making el presidente look jacked.

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Date: 22/09/2026 08:17:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431988
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Geddry is feeling mischievous.

Today’s official White House schedule contains what may be the funniest line in Washington:

1:45 PM – The President participates in a Ribbon Cutting Ceremony. The White House. Out-of-Town Travel Pool.

There is just one small production problem. As of this morning, there is no TV pool.

Roll Call still lists the ceremony as an “Out-of-Town Travel Pool” event. But this morning the five networks that actually provide the rotating television pool, ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC and, gloriously, Fox News, announced that they are suspending pooled coverage after the White House prevented CNN from taking its scheduled turn.

Fox Washington bureau chief Bryan Boughton, currently chairing the pool, made the logistics admirably clear:

“There will be no replacement pool put in place.”

Which brings us back to 1:45.

There will be a president, a ribbon, and possibly giant ceremonial scissors.

What there will not be, unless something changes, is the network camera crew normally assigned to turn the whole thing into television.

Perhaps Real America’s Voice can dispatch somebody, or a favored influencer like Laura Loomer with a fully charged iPhone 18 Pro can cover it.

It is an extraordinary little production snafu for a White House that has made television access such a central part of presidential appearances: after barring CNN from performing its assigned pool duty, the administration discovered that the other four networks were not waiting eagerly to inherit CNN’s camera slot. Fox joined them.

Today’s episode of Governance as Content has encountered an ancient broadcasting problem:

No camera. No feed. At 1:45, a ribbon may be cut. Please hold your phone horizontally.

It is biting him on the arse this reporter ban.

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Date: 22/09/2026 08:51:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432000
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

If only I had a brain

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Date: 22/09/2026 09:35:39
From: Michael V
ID: 2432005
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Geddry is feeling mischievous.

Today’s official White House schedule contains what may be the funniest line in Washington:

1:45 PM – The President participates in a Ribbon Cutting Ceremony. The White House. Out-of-Town Travel Pool.

There is just one small production problem. As of this morning, there is no TV pool.

Roll Call still lists the ceremony as an “Out-of-Town Travel Pool” event. But this morning the five networks that actually provide the rotating television pool, ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC and, gloriously, Fox News, announced that they are suspending pooled coverage after the White House prevented CNN from taking its scheduled turn.

Fox Washington bureau chief Bryan Boughton, currently chairing the pool, made the logistics admirably clear:

“There will be no replacement pool put in place.”

Which brings us back to 1:45.

There will be a president, a ribbon, and possibly giant ceremonial scissors.

What there will not be, unless something changes, is the network camera crew normally assigned to turn the whole thing into television.

Perhaps Real America’s Voice can dispatch somebody, or a favored influencer like Laura Loomer with a fully charged iPhone 18 Pro can cover it.

It is an extraordinary little production snafu for a White House that has made television access such a central part of presidential appearances: after barring CNN from performing its assigned pool duty, the administration discovered that the other four networks were not waiting eagerly to inherit CNN’s camera slot. Fox joined them.

Today’s episode of Governance as Content has encountered an ancient broadcasting problem:

No camera. No feed. At 1:45, a ribbon may be cut. Please hold your phone horizontally.

LOL

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Date: 22/09/2026 11:08:43
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2432059
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I would subscribe just the see the buffoon die on live television
(Obvs 24/7 live coverage won’t be happening)

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Date: 22/09/2026 13:24:49
From: buffy
ID: 2432128
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ABC report on non coverage of Trump

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Date: 22/09/2026 13:27:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2432130
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


ABC report on non coverage of Trump

Doesn’t reporting on non coverage terminate the non coverage?

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Date: 22/09/2026 13:28:45
From: dv
ID: 2432132
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

ABC report on non coverage of Trump

Doesn’t reporting on non coverage terminate the non coverage?

Very meta

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Date: 22/09/2026 13:29:12
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2432133
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


ABC report on non coverage of Trump

“What does the ban look like in practice?
There has been a wider knock-on effect.

The remainder of the White House television pool announced it would suspend coverage of Mr Trump.”

Ohhhh that explains the new Trump TV announced by the White House. It’s gonna be state-controlled media. What can go wrong?

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Date: 22/09/2026 13:44:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2432145
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


ABC report on non coverage of Trump

:)

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Date: 22/09/2026 14:02:05
From: dv
ID: 2432152
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 22/09/2026 14:04:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2432153
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


buffy said:

ABC report on non coverage of Trump

:)

Well we’ll just have to go to Fox news for our US political news.

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Date: 22/09/2026 14:06:53
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2432155
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

ABC report on non coverage of Trump

:)

Well we’ll just have to go to Fox news for our US political news.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/

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Date: 22/09/2026 14:11:57
From: Michael V
ID: 2432157
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Snort.

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Date: 22/09/2026 14:19:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432161
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


buffy said:

ABC report on non coverage of Trump

“What does the ban look like in practice?
There has been a wider knock-on effect.

The remainder of the White House television pool announced it would suspend coverage of Mr Trump.”

Ohhhh that explains the new Trump TV announced by the White House. It’s gonna be state-controlled media. What can go wrong?

well at least they’re better than other countries

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Date: 22/09/2026 14:21:51
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2432162
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

ABC report on non coverage of Trump

“What does the ban look like in practice?
There has been a wider knock-on effect.

The remainder of the White House television pool announced it would suspend coverage of Mr Trump.”

Ohhhh that explains the new Trump TV announced by the White House. It’s gonna be state-controlled media. What can go wrong?

well at least they’re better than other countries

Infomercials featuring Putin and Kim Jong-un spruiking the benefits of dictatorship.

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Date: 22/09/2026 14:25:07
From: kii
ID: 2432164
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



snortle

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Date: 22/09/2026 14:28:15
From: Michael V
ID: 2432166
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

“What does the ban look like in practice?
There has been a wider knock-on effect.

The remainder of the White House television pool announced it would suspend coverage of Mr Trump.”

Ohhhh that explains the new Trump TV announced by the White House. It’s gonna be state-controlled media. What can go wrong?

well at least they’re better than other countries

Infomercials featuring Putin and Kim Jong-un spruiking the benefits of dictatorship.

Heh!

:)

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Date: 22/09/2026 14:34:09
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2432167
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

ABC report on non coverage of Trump

:)

Well we’ll just have to go to Fox news for our US political news.

Fox is also protesting CNN’s ban.

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Date: 22/09/2026 14:39:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432171
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The ‘merchants of chaos’ have left Donald Trump in a bind with Saudi Arabia

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Date: 22/09/2026 15:12:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432183
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

US ‘drug boat’ strikes breach international law, could be crimes against humanity, UN report says

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Date: 22/09/2026 15:27:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432186
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:

US ‘drug boat’ strikes breach international law, could be crimes against humanity, UN report says

“could be”

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Date: 22/09/2026 15:40:20
From: kii
ID: 2432189
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Meanwhile in the USA…

Since Trump 2 and the changes to FDA regulations around various things, it seems that recalls of consumables is at an all time high. I remember a lot of recalls when I was there, mainly food items.

From Oliver Kornetzke’s Facebook page:

“UP NEXT ON WISN 12 NEWS:

A nationwide recall expands after inspectors find human scalp tissue, several intact eyelashes and what appears to be part of an earlobe inside frozen dinners. Plus, doctors warn that a persistent scratching sound in the abdomen may be caused by intestinal parasites “responding to movement.” Then, a local man coughs up a blood-soaked membrane that immediately curls into a ball when touched. Something is laying eggs in your ear, and the medicine cabinet is starting to smell sweet.

News at 10. But first, the weather.”

Anyway…

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Date: 22/09/2026 15:50:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2432192
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Meanwhile in the USA…

Since Trump 2 and the changes to FDA regulations around various things, it seems that recalls of consumables is at an all time high. I remember a lot of recalls when I was there, mainly food items.

From Oliver Kornetzke’s Facebook page:

“UP NEXT ON WISN 12 NEWS:

A nationwide recall expands after inspectors find human scalp tissue, several intact eyelashes and what appears to be part of an earlobe inside frozen dinners. Plus, doctors warn that a persistent scratching sound in the abdomen may be caused by intestinal parasites “responding to movement.” Then, a local man coughs up a blood-soaked membrane that immediately curls into a ball when touched. Something is laying eggs in your ear, and the medicine cabinet is starting to smell sweet.

News at 10. But first, the weather.”

Anyway…

Yuck.

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Date: 22/09/2026 18:04:00
From: dv
ID: 2432236
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 22/09/2026 18:30:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432247
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

damn we’re still old enough to remember when people said that to shut down bad actors you just starve them of publicity and platform

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Date: 22/09/2026 18:49:40
From: dv
ID: 2432259
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

damn we’re still old enough to remember when people said that to shut down bad actors you just starve them of publicity and platform

I mean I guess it would be unethical to literally starve him.

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Date: 22/09/2026 19:11:17
From: kii
ID: 2432265
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2


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Date: 22/09/2026 19:37:47
From: dv
ID: 2432267
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

One thing about conservatives is that, even though they are almost always wrong, they never have a moment where they admit the wrongness and hence learn from it. They spend years saying that legalised marijuana, or same sex marriage, or even the HPV vaccine, would have all kinds of disastrous effects, and when that doesn’t eventuate they don’t say “shit, maybe my understanding of the world is wrong”, they just roll onto the next scare campaign.

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Date: 22/09/2026 20:18:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432274
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

One thing about conservatives is that, even though they are almost always wrong, they never have a moment where they admit the wrongness and hence learn from it. They spend years saying that legalised marijuana, or same sex marriage, or even the HPV vaccine, would have all kinds of disastrous effects, and when that doesn’t eventuate they don’t say “shit, maybe my understanding of the world is wrong”, they just roll onto the next scare campaign.

and 300000000 americese still lap it up so what’s the incentive to learn

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Date: 22/09/2026 20:47:51
From: dv
ID: 2432287
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://youtu.be/Lwz1XwHwWhY?si=-xILpfAnf0CM79jS

Nerd Reich

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Date: 22/09/2026 22:04:05
From: dv
ID: 2432290
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Fair to say that the imaginary 5k did not sway any voters.

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Date: 23/09/2026 08:53:00
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2432352
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

In another distraction, Trump renames AI.

President Trump told the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday that artificial intelligence will be renamed “super intelligence” in all U.S. documents.
“The United States also totally rejects any attempt to construct a globality scheme to control for the artificial intelligence being spoken of so much now, hereinafter called super intelligence. Changing the name,” Trump told the global body.

“The use of the word artificial makes intelligence sound fake,” he continued. “It is not fake. It’s actually amazing. But we have to be careful. In fact, it is exactly the opposite of what it purports.”

“From this point forward, all of United States documents and hopefully the world’s will be changed to use the much more accurate term super as opposed to artificial,” he continued.

“In other words, welcome to the new world of super intelligence — SI,” he said. “Let’s see if that goes. It sounds much better. It is much better, and it’s much more accurate.”

Super intelligence is already defined as a form of artificial intelligence that exceeds human intelligence. It is both the ultimate goal of many frontier AI firms and the greatest worry among those warning about its threat to humanity.

Trump’s remarks came amid spiking fears about the technology after a former Anthropic researcher warned that AI could soon destroy humanity.

The concerns fueled the debate in Washington over whether to regulate the technology, with Trump pushing for less regulation to ensure the U.S. beats China in the AI arms race.

AI is slated to be a major topic of conversation this week, not only at the United Nations General Assembly but also when Chinese President Xi Jinping arrives in Washington for a state visit with Trump.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/6104142-trump-renames-ai-super-intelligence/

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:00:53
From: ms spock
ID: 2432357
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


In another distraction, Trump renames AI.

President Trump told the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday that artificial intelligence will be renamed “super intelligence” in all U.S. documents.
“The United States also totally rejects any attempt to construct a globality scheme to control for the artificial intelligence being spoken of so much now, hereinafter called super intelligence. Changing the name,” Trump told the global body.

“The use of the word artificial makes intelligence sound fake,” he continued. “It is not fake. It’s actually amazing. But we have to be careful. In fact, it is exactly the opposite of what it purports.”

“From this point forward, all of United States documents and hopefully the world’s will be changed to use the much more accurate term super as opposed to artificial,” he continued.

“In other words, welcome to the new world of super intelligence — SI,” he said. “Let’s see if that goes. It sounds much better. It is much better, and it’s much more accurate.”

Super intelligence is already defined as a form of artificial intelligence that exceeds human intelligence. It is both the ultimate goal of many frontier AI firms and the greatest worry among those warning about its threat to humanity.

Trump’s remarks came amid spiking fears about the technology after a former Anthropic researcher warned that AI could soon destroy humanity.

The concerns fueled the debate in Washington over whether to regulate the technology, with Trump pushing for less regulation to ensure the U.S. beats China in the AI arms race.

AI is slated to be a major topic of conversation this week, not only at the United Nations General Assembly but also when Chinese President Xi Jinping arrives in Washington for a state visit with Trump.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/6104142-trump-renames-ai-super-intelligence/

In her livestream this morning (our time) Heather Cox Richardson commented on Trump’s speech at the UN. I think she said 11 minutes and 13 seconds was Trump commenting on potentially nuking Iran. She was concerned. I think that I really have to stop watching the news. I am consuming too much.

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:17:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432365
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


In another distraction, Trump renames AI.

President Trump told the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday that artificial intelligence will be renamed “super intelligence” in all U.S. documents.
“The United States also totally rejects any attempt to construct a globality scheme to control for the artificial intelligence being spoken of so much now, hereinafter called super intelligence. Changing the name,” Trump told the global body.

“The use of the word artificial makes intelligence sound fake,” he continued. “It is not fake. It’s actually amazing. But we have to be careful. In fact, it is exactly the opposite of what it purports.”

“From this point forward, all of United States documents and hopefully the world’s will be changed to use the much more accurate term super as opposed to artificial,” he continued.

“In other words, welcome to the new world of super intelligence — SI,” he said. “Let’s see if that goes. It sounds much better. It is much better, and it’s much more accurate.”

Super intelligence is already defined as a form of artificial intelligence that exceeds human intelligence. It is both the ultimate goal of many frontier AI firms and the greatest worry among those warning about its threat to humanity.

Trump’s remarks came amid spiking fears about the technology after a former Anthropic researcher warned that AI could soon destroy humanity.

The concerns fueled the debate in Washington over whether to regulate the technology, with Trump pushing for less regulation to ensure the U.S. beats China in the AI arms race.

AI is slated to be a major topic of conversation this week, not only at the United Nations General Assembly but also when Chinese President Xi Jinping arrives in Washington for a state visit with Trump.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/6104142-trump-renames-ai-super-intelligence/

What would Trump know about intelligence?

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:19:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432366
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:31:21
From: Michael V
ID: 2432375
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


In another distraction, Trump renames AI.

President Trump told the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday that artificial intelligence will be renamed “super intelligence” in all U.S. documents.
“The United States also totally rejects any attempt to construct a globality scheme to control for the artificial intelligence being spoken of so much now, hereinafter called super intelligence. Changing the name,” Trump told the global body.

“The use of the word artificial makes intelligence sound fake,” he continued. “It is not fake. It’s actually amazing. But we have to be careful. In fact, it is exactly the opposite of what it purports.”

“From this point forward, all of United States documents and hopefully the world’s will be changed to use the much more accurate term super as opposed to artificial,” he continued.

“In other words, welcome to the new world of super intelligence — SI,” he said. “Let’s see if that goes. It sounds much better. It is much better, and it’s much more accurate.”

Super intelligence is already defined as a form of artificial intelligence that exceeds human intelligence. It is both the ultimate goal of many frontier AI firms and the greatest worry among those warning about its threat to humanity.

Trump’s remarks came amid spiking fears about the technology after a former Anthropic researcher warned that AI could soon destroy humanity.

The concerns fueled the debate in Washington over whether to regulate the technology, with Trump pushing for less regulation to ensure the U.S. beats China in the AI arms race.

AI is slated to be a major topic of conversation this week, not only at the United Nations General Assembly but also when Chinese President Xi Jinping arrives in Washington for a state visit with Trump.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/6104142-trump-renames-ai-super-intelligence/

Far Canal.

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:32:09
From: Michael V
ID: 2432377
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Divine Angel said:

In another distraction, Trump renames AI.

President Trump told the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday that artificial intelligence will be renamed “super intelligence” in all U.S. documents.
“The United States also totally rejects any attempt to construct a globality scheme to control for the artificial intelligence being spoken of so much now, hereinafter called super intelligence. Changing the name,” Trump told the global body.

“The use of the word artificial makes intelligence sound fake,” he continued. “It is not fake. It’s actually amazing. But we have to be careful. In fact, it is exactly the opposite of what it purports.”

“From this point forward, all of United States documents and hopefully the world’s will be changed to use the much more accurate term super as opposed to artificial,” he continued.

“In other words, welcome to the new world of super intelligence — SI,” he said. “Let’s see if that goes. It sounds much better. It is much better, and it’s much more accurate.”

Super intelligence is already defined as a form of artificial intelligence that exceeds human intelligence. It is both the ultimate goal of many frontier AI firms and the greatest worry among those warning about its threat to humanity.

Trump’s remarks came amid spiking fears about the technology after a former Anthropic researcher warned that AI could soon destroy humanity.

The concerns fueled the debate in Washington over whether to regulate the technology, with Trump pushing for less regulation to ensure the U.S. beats China in the AI arms race.

AI is slated to be a major topic of conversation this week, not only at the United Nations General Assembly but also when Chinese President Xi Jinping arrives in Washington for a state visit with Trump.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/6104142-trump-renames-ai-super-intelligence/

In her livestream this morning (our time) Heather Cox Richardson commented on Trump’s speech at the UN. I think she said 11 minutes and 13 seconds was Trump commenting on potentially nuking Iran. She was concerned. I think that I really have to stop watching the news. I am consuming too much.

Good idea.

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:35:05
From: ms spock
ID: 2432381
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

Divine Angel said:

In another distraction, Trump renames AI.

President Trump told the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday that artificial intelligence will be renamed “super intelligence” in all U.S. documents.
“The United States also totally rejects any attempt to construct a globality scheme to control for the artificial intelligence being spoken of so much now, hereinafter called super intelligence. Changing the name,” Trump told the global body.

“The use of the word artificial makes intelligence sound fake,” he continued. “It is not fake. It’s actually amazing. But we have to be careful. In fact, it is exactly the opposite of what it purports.”

“From this point forward, all of United States documents and hopefully the world’s will be changed to use the much more accurate term super as opposed to artificial,” he continued.

“In other words, welcome to the new world of super intelligence — SI,” he said. “Let’s see if that goes. It sounds much better. It is much better, and it’s much more accurate.”

Super intelligence is already defined as a form of artificial intelligence that exceeds human intelligence. It is both the ultimate goal of many frontier AI firms and the greatest worry among those warning about its threat to humanity.

Trump’s remarks came amid spiking fears about the technology after a former Anthropic researcher warned that AI could soon destroy humanity.

The concerns fueled the debate in Washington over whether to regulate the technology, with Trump pushing for less regulation to ensure the U.S. beats China in the AI arms race.

AI is slated to be a major topic of conversation this week, not only at the United Nations General Assembly but also when Chinese President Xi Jinping arrives in Washington for a state visit with Trump.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/6104142-trump-renames-ai-super-intelligence/

In her livestream this morning (our time) Heather Cox Richardson commented on Trump’s speech at the UN. I think she said 11 minutes and 13 seconds was Trump commenting on potentially nuking Iran. She was concerned. I think that I really have to stop watching the news. I am consuming too much.

Good idea.

(nods)

Has Mrs V recovered from her lurgy?

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:38:16
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2432384
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

All intelligence will be in Si units from now on.

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:45:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2432392
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Michael V said:

ms spock said:

In her livestream this morning (our time) Heather Cox Richardson commented on Trump’s speech at the UN. I think she said 11 minutes and 13 seconds was Trump commenting on potentially nuking Iran. She was concerned. I think that I really have to stop watching the news. I am consuming too much.

Good idea.

(nods)

Has Mrs V recovered from her lurgy?

She’s still recovering. Each day she shows an incremental improvement.

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:45:57
From: Michael V
ID: 2432394
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


All intelligence will be in Si units from now on.

:)

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:46:29
From: ms spock
ID: 2432395
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


All intelligence will be in Si units from now on.

What’s an SI unit?

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:47:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2432396
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Peak Warming Man said:

All intelligence will be in Si units from now on.

What’s an SI unit?

Yes, but it’s spelt watt.

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:51:52
From: Michael V
ID: 2432399
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


ms spock said:

Peak Warming Man said:

All intelligence will be in Si units from now on.

What’s an SI unit?

Yes, but it’s spelt watt.

LOLOLOLOL

:)

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:53:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2432400
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Peak Warming Man said:

All intelligence will be in Si units from now on.

What’s an SI unit?

The modern metric system:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_System_of_Units

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:55:32
From: ms spock
ID: 2432401
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

Michael V said:

Good idea.

(nods)

Has Mrs V recovered from her lurgy?

She’s still recovering. Each day she shows an incremental improvement.

Oh that’s good. The latest lurgy does seem to linger.

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Date: 23/09/2026 09:57:29
From: ms spock
ID: 2432402
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


ms spock said:

Peak Warming Man said:

All intelligence will be in Si units from now on.

What’s an SI unit?

Yes, but it’s spelt watt.

Is the joke “what intelligence?”

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Date: 23/09/2026 10:07:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432404
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

ms spock said:

What’s an SI unit?

Yes, but it’s spelt watt.

Is the joke “what intelligence?”

base

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Date: 23/09/2026 10:13:01
From: ms spock
ID: 2432408
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

Peak Warming Man said:

All intelligence will be in Si units from now on.

What’s an SI unit?

The modern metric system:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_System_of_Units

(((blushes))))

OIC

The most basic of our modern metric system.

I will read through and find watt.

My brain is not a math brain.

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Date: 23/09/2026 10:27:44
From: ms spock
ID: 2432413
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

Peak Warming Man said:

All intelligence will be in Si units from now on.

What’s an SI unit?

The modern metric system:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_System_of_Units

There needs to be a school for folks who missed out on parts of their education.

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Date: 23/09/2026 10:27:44
From: Michael V
ID: 2432414
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ms spock said:

What’s an SI unit?

Yes, but it’s spelt watt.

Is the joke “what intelligence?”

A watt is a derived SI unit.

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Date: 23/09/2026 10:30:49
From: ms spock
ID: 2432417
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes, but it’s spelt watt.

Is the joke “what intelligence?”

A watt is a derived SI unit.

Aha

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Date: 23/09/2026 10:31:33
From: Woodie
ID: 2432418
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:



Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

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Date: 23/09/2026 10:43:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2432424
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


roughbarked said:


Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

I don’t know, sorry.

But it seems like a great idea for a project for hackers.

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:23:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432442
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

Michael V said:

Good idea.

(nods)

Has Mrs V recovered from her lurgy?

She’s still recovering. Each day she shows an incremental improvement.

I picked up a lurgy in Canberra from my granddaughters. It isn’t Covid 19 or RSV or indeed influenza A or B but it certainly is a lurgy.

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:23:57
From: dv
ID: 2432443
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:28:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432447
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


roughbarked said:


Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

Now there’s a suggestion.

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:30:11
From: Michael V
ID: 2432448
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



LOLz

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:41:46
From: Cymek
ID: 2432455
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



The USA spent what the better part of century convincing its populations its number one joe
It doesn’t need to lie as everything is a lie
99% of the population is there to serve the one percent

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:41:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432456
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:


Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

Now there’s a suggestion.

… because they’re under the control of the billionaire fascists as well …

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:44:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432458
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

dv said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged


alternative form but again when they write in the obvious it kind of metareinforces the metapoint, they should have stopped at smiles




The USA spent what the better part of century convincing its populations its number one joe
It doesn’t need to lie as everything is a lie
99% of the population is there to serve the one percent

so these threads are basically the

https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2432422/

same thread we knew it

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:44:23
From: Cymek
ID: 2432459
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


Woodie said:

roughbarked said:


Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

Now there’s a suggestion.

No one will ever be punished for Epstein related crimes.
At least if the names were published all the disgusting turds could become persona non grata amongst the world population.

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:44:43
From: Michael V
ID: 2432460
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

Now there’s a suggestion.

… because they’re under the control of the billionaire fascists as well …

Oh. I was hoping for some optimism in these worrying times.

:(

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:45:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432461
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

Now there’s a suggestion.

No one will ever be punished for Epstein related crimes.
At least if the names were published all the disgusting turds could become persona non grata amongst the world population.

doubt it, 300000000 americese would love them

wait they already do

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:47:12
From: dv
ID: 2432463
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Eh, only two episodes in Season 1 of Marlow Murder Club.

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:47:50
From: dv
ID: 2432464
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

While most of the midterm attention is on the Senate and House of Reps, the state elections also have an impact on federal matters as the state governments control electoral boundaries and ballot access. They are also more directly important as state governments wield broad powers in the US.
Although the Democrats have a few good prospects at this level, one position that the Republicans may gain is the Governor of Kansas. Laura Kelly has been a very popular Democrat governor but she cannot run again due to term limits, and the Republican candidate is up a few points in the polling.

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Date: 23/09/2026 11:56:28
From: Cymek
ID: 2432467
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Now there’s a suggestion.

No one will ever be punished for Epstein related crimes.
At least if the names were published all the disgusting turds could become persona non grata amongst the world population.

doubt it, 300000000 americese would love them

wait they already do

I don’t really believe it either.
I can see why hell was created so people got some punishment even if its not while they were alive.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:04:09
From: ms spock
ID: 2432476
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


roughbarked said:


Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

Yes why the hell not.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:05:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432477
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Woodie said:

roughbarked said:


Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

Yes why the hell not.

Because they can’t see through the black ink.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:07:12
From: Cymek
ID: 2432480
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Woodie said:

roughbarked said:


Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

Yes why the hell not.

It would be good use of an AI programmed and designed for hacking
Especially say if it had actually morality and self awareness and decided
Yeah I’m going reveal every nations dirty secrets from the last 100 years.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:12:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432484
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:


Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

Now there’s a suggestion.

… because they’re under the control of the billionaire fascists as well …

Oh. I was hoping for some optimism in these worrying times.

:(

No one will ever be punished for Epstein related crimes.
At least if the names were published all the disgusting turds could become persona non grata amongst the world population.

doubt it, 300000000 americese would love them

wait they already do

Yes why the hell not.

Because they can’t see through the black ink.

It would be good use of an AI programmed and designed for hacking
Especially say if it had actually morality and self awareness and decided
Yeah I’m going reveal every nations dirty secrets from the last 100 years.

so you see we’r‘n’t being facetious when we say the hackers are under the control of the billionaire fascists because we ask you

who owns the “爱 programmed and designed for hacking” as yous’ve seen in the news all year

hey

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:13:13
From: ms spock
ID: 2432486
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


While most of the midterm attention is on the Senate and House of Reps, the state elections also have an impact on federal matters as the state governments control electoral boundaries and ballot access. They are also more directly important as state governments wield broad powers in the US.
Although the Democrats have a few good prospects at this level, one position that the Republicans may gain is the Governor of Kansas. Laura Kelly has been a very popular Democrat governor but she cannot run again due to term limits, and the Republican candidate is up a few points in the polling.

I hope there will be midterm elections. I really do.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:15:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432488
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

dv said:

While most of the midterm attention is on the Senate and House of Reps, the state elections also have an impact on federal matters as the state governments control electoral boundaries and ballot access. They are also more directly important as state governments wield broad powers in the US.
Although the Democrats have a few good prospects at this level, one position that the Republicans may gain is the Governor of Kansas. Laura Kelly has been a very popular Democrat governor but she cannot run again due to term limits, and the Republican candidate is up a few points in the polling.

I hope there will be midterm elections. I really do.

their state media will tell us all about how free and fair they were

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:16:07
From: ms spock
ID: 2432489
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

ms spock said:

(nods)

Has Mrs V recovered from her lurgy?

She’s still recovering. Each day she shows an incremental improvement.

I picked up a lurgy in Canberra from my granddaughters. It isn’t Covid 19 or RSV or indeed influenza A or B but it certainly is a lurgy.

Parainfluenza?

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:19:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432495
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

She’s still recovering. Each day she shows an incremental improvement.

I picked up a lurgy in Canberra from my granddaughters. It isn’t Covid 19 or RSV or indeed influenza A or B but it certainly is a lurgy.

Parainfluenza?

Painthearsefluenza. Though it is mainly a pain in the face.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:20:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432497
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

She’s still recovering. Each day she shows an incremental improvement.

I picked up a lurgy in Canberra from my granddaughters. It isn’t Covid 19 or RSV or indeed influenza A or B but it certainly is a lurgy.

Parainfluenza?

hpiv rhinovirus adenovirus hmpv rsv influenza sarscov2 anything

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:24:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432500
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

I picked up a lurgy in Canberra from my granddaughters. It isn’t Covid 19 or RSV or indeed influenza A or B but it certainly is a lurgy.

Parainfluenza?

hpiv rhinovirus adenovirus hmpv rsv influenza sarscov2 anything


Definitely.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:28:12
From: ms spock
ID: 2432506
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

Woodie said:

Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

Yes why the hell not.

Because they can’t see through the black ink.

Not even when they hold them up to the light.?

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:28:59
From: ms spock
ID: 2432508
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Woodie said:

Why can’t hackers hack all the FBI’s unredacted Epstien files?

Yes why the hell not.

It would be good use of an AI programmed and designed for hacking
Especially say if it had actually morality and self awareness and decided
Yeah I’m going reveal every nations dirty secrets from the last 100 years.

That would be some substantial reading.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:32:00
From: ms spock
ID: 2432511
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

dv said:

While most of the midterm attention is on the Senate and House of Reps, the state elections also have an impact on federal matters as the state governments control electoral boundaries and ballot access. They are also more directly important as state governments wield broad powers in the US.
Although the Democrats have a few good prospects at this level, one position that the Republicans may gain is the Governor of Kansas. Laura Kelly has been a very popular Democrat governor but she cannot run again due to term limits, and the Republican candidate is up a few points in the polling.

I hope there will be midterm elections. I really do.

their state media will tell us all about how free and fair they were

It is going to be quite a spectacle.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:34:32
From: ms spock
ID: 2432517
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

I picked up a lurgy in Canberra from my granddaughters. It isn’t Covid 19 or RSV or indeed influenza A or B but it certainly is a lurgy.

Parainfluenza?

Painthearsefluenza. Though it is mainly a pain in the face.

A really runny nose?

No coughing.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:35:27
From: dv
ID: 2432518
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ms spock said:

What’s an SI unit?

Yes, but it’s spelt watt.

LOLOLOLOL

:)

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:37:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432521
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

Parainfluenza?

Painthearsefluenza. Though it is mainly a pain in the face.

A really runny nose?

No coughing.

Lotsa coughing up stuff and nose constantly in a tissue. Throat is sore and I keep feeling chilly.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:38:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2432522
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

I hope there will be midterm elections. I really do.

their state media will tell us all about how free and fair they were

It is going to be quite a spectacle.

A shitfight to tell your great-grandkids about.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:40:43
From: Michael V
ID: 2432525
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes, but it’s spelt watt.

LOLOLOLOL

:)


:)

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:41:18
From: ms spock
ID: 2432526
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

Painthearsefluenza. Though it is mainly a pain in the face.

A really runny nose?

No coughing.

Lotsa coughing up stuff and nose constantly in a tissue. Throat is sore and I keep feeling chilly.

Parainfluenza has all those symptoms. I hope that you feel better soon.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:42:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432528
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

A really runny nose?

No coughing.

Lotsa coughing up stuff and nose constantly in a tissue. Throat is sore and I keep feeling chilly.

Parainfluenza has all those symptoms. I hope that you feel better soon.

So do I.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:44:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432530
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

“Do I drive them into hell with no chance of survival and no hope of future greatness for generations?” he said, as a representative for Iran’s delegation sat stony-faced in the audience.

“But I believe we’ll make a deal right after the election because it doesn’t make sense for them not to. They’re waiting to see how I do in the midterm election.”

> Hang on.. See how I do in the midterms? He isn’t going to do anything in the midterms.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:46:25
From: ms spock
ID: 2432532
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


ms spock said:

SCIENCE said:

their state media will tell us all about how free and fair they were

It is going to be quite a spectacle.

A shitfight to tell your great-grandkids about.

I hope so. Trump was insinuating nuking Iran in his speech at the UN, according to Heather Cox Richardson at about 11.13 into his speech.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:48:24
From: dv
ID: 2432534
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


“Do I drive them into hell with no chance of survival and no hope of future greatness for generations?” he said, as a representative for Iran’s delegation sat stony-faced in the audience.

“But I believe we’ll make a deal right after the election because it doesn’t make sense for them not to. They’re waiting to see how I do in the midterm election.”

> Hang on.. See how I do in the midterms? He isn’t going to do anything in the midterms.

Unless the Dems end with 67 Senate seats, which seems unlikely.

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Date: 23/09/2026 12:54:13
From: dv
ID: 2432540
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/report-details-scrapped-fbi-bribery-122504710.html

The FBI was preparing a major bribery investigation that could have implicated Republican Maine Sen. Susan Collins, but it was scrapped soon after Donald Trump returned to the White House, according to a report.

A damning ProPublica investigation details allegations that Collins and her team were involved in a pay-to-play scheme involving defense contractor Navatek.

The report claims that Scott Reed, head of the Collins super PAC, sought $500,000 from Navatek in 2019 to boost Collins’ re-election bid, after the senator helped the company win a multimillion-dollar Navy research contract in Maine.

In return, Navatek is reported to have said it wanted an assurance that Collins would help generate tens of millions of dollars more in federal funding for the company. After the meeting, Navatek CEO Martin Kao set up a shell company to skirt campaign finance laws that ban government contractors from making political contributions and sent $150,000 to the Collins super PAC.

Two months later, Kao informed Navatek executives that Collins had put plans in place to award the company $32 million in naval contracts.

As noted by ProPublica, a company with federal contracts offering political donations to Collins in exchange for a favor “would constitute criminal bribery.” Collins has denied any wrongdoing.

The allegations arrive at a crucial time for Collins. Her Maine Senate seat is one that Democrats believe they could flip in the Nov. 3 midterms, as the 73-year-old moderate Republican seeks a sixth six-year term in the blue state.
In 2022, a grand jury indicted Kao on suspicion of making illegal campaign contributions.

While being questioned by FBI agents and federal prosecutors, Kao said that the meeting with Reed was just one of a number of alleged pay-to-play operations involving members of Congress he was involved in.

In total, Kao and his team had donated nearly $900,000 to dozens of lawmakers, allowing the Hawaii-based Navatek to establish operations in half a dozen states with more than $40 million a year in government funding, ProPublica reported

The FBI had gathered enough evidence that it was on the verge of launching a bribery and corruption probe that could have implicated top politicians from both political parties by the end of 2024.

However, the probe was derailed by Trump’s 2024 election victory. When the president returned to office, he gutted the Department of Justice and fired multiple workers who had worked on federal criminal cases against Trump as part of his retribution campaign.

One of the agents who had taken Kao’s confession was pushed out amid the administration’s purge of officials involved in investigating Trump’s attempt to overturn the 2020 election.

As a result of Trump reshaping the DOJ, the probe into alleged pay-to-play bribery in Congress was shuttered.

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Date: 23/09/2026 13:02:05
From: ms spock
ID: 2432543
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


“Do I drive them into hell with no chance of survival and no hope of future greatness for generations?” he said, as a representative for Iran’s delegation sat stony-faced in the audience.

“But I believe we’ll make a deal right after the election because it doesn’t make sense for them not to. They’re waiting to see how I do in the midterm election.”

> Hang on.. See how I do in the midterms? He isn’t going to do anything in the midterms.

They have already been purging the voter rolls. Voter suppression and racial gerrymandering that Republicans engage in has increased. Marc Elias from Democracy Docket has been doing the court cases.

He did the 60 court cases that Republicans launched in 2020.

Have you see “ Vigilantes Inc” free on YouTube by Greg Palast?

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Date: 23/09/2026 13:17:42
From: Michael V
ID: 2432562
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/report-details-scrapped-fbi-bribery-122504710.html

The FBI was preparing a major bribery investigation that could have implicated Republican Maine Sen. Susan Collins, but it was scrapped soon after Donald Trump returned to the White House, according to a report.

A damning ProPublica investigation details allegations that Collins and her team were involved in a pay-to-play scheme involving defense contractor Navatek.

The report claims that Scott Reed, head of the Collins super PAC, sought $500,000 from Navatek in 2019 to boost Collins’ re-election bid, after the senator helped the company win a multimillion-dollar Navy research contract in Maine.

In return, Navatek is reported to have said it wanted an assurance that Collins would help generate tens of millions of dollars more in federal funding for the company. After the meeting, Navatek CEO Martin Kao set up a shell company to skirt campaign finance laws that ban government contractors from making political contributions and sent $150,000 to the Collins super PAC.

Two months later, Kao informed Navatek executives that Collins had put plans in place to award the company $32 million in naval contracts.

As noted by ProPublica, a company with federal contracts offering political donations to Collins in exchange for a favor “would constitute criminal bribery.” Collins has denied any wrongdoing.

The allegations arrive at a crucial time for Collins. Her Maine Senate seat is one that Democrats believe they could flip in the Nov. 3 midterms, as the 73-year-old moderate Republican seeks a sixth six-year term in the blue state.
In 2022, a grand jury indicted Kao on suspicion of making illegal campaign contributions.

While being questioned by FBI agents and federal prosecutors, Kao said that the meeting with Reed was just one of a number of alleged pay-to-play operations involving members of Congress he was involved in.

In total, Kao and his team had donated nearly $900,000 to dozens of lawmakers, allowing the Hawaii-based Navatek to establish operations in half a dozen states with more than $40 million a year in government funding, ProPublica reported

The FBI had gathered enough evidence that it was on the verge of launching a bribery and corruption probe that could have implicated top politicians from both political parties by the end of 2024.

However, the probe was derailed by Trump’s 2024 election victory. When the president returned to office, he gutted the Department of Justice and fired multiple workers who had worked on federal criminal cases against Trump as part of his retribution campaign.

One of the agents who had taken Kao’s confession was pushed out amid the administration’s purge of officials involved in investigating Trump’s attempt to overturn the 2020 election.

As a result of Trump reshaping the DOJ, the probe into alleged pay-to-play bribery in Congress was shuttered.

Sigh.

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Date: 23/09/2026 13:25:58
From: buffy
ID: 2432566
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


All intelligence will be in Si units from now on.

Of course it won’t. The US uses a mish-mash of units. They will make something up.

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Date: 23/09/2026 13:27:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432570
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

dv said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/report-details-scrapped-fbi-bribery-122504710.html

The FBI was preparing a major bribery investigation that could have implicated Republican Maine Sen. Susan Collins, but it was scrapped soon after Donald Trump returned to the White House, according to a report.

A damning ProPublica investigation details allegations that Collins and her team were involved in a pay-to-play scheme involving defense contractor Navatek.

The report claims that Scott Reed, head of the Collins super PAC, sought $500,000 from Navatek in 2019 to boost Collins’ re-election bid, after the senator helped the company win a multimillion-dollar Navy research contract in Maine.

In return, Navatek is reported to have said it wanted an assurance that Collins would help generate tens of millions of dollars more in federal funding for the company. After the meeting, Navatek CEO Martin Kao set up a shell company to skirt campaign finance laws that ban government contractors from making political contributions and sent $150,000 to the Collins super PAC.

Two months later, Kao informed Navatek executives that Collins had put plans in place to award the company $32 million in naval contracts.

As noted by ProPublica, a company with federal contracts offering political donations to Collins in exchange for a favor “would constitute criminal bribery.” Collins has denied any wrongdoing.

The allegations arrive at a crucial time for Collins. Her Maine Senate seat is one that Democrats believe they could flip in the Nov. 3 midterms, as the 73-year-old moderate Republican seeks a sixth six-year term in the blue state.
In 2022, a grand jury indicted Kao on suspicion of making illegal campaign contributions.

While being questioned by FBI agents and federal prosecutors, Kao said that the meeting with Reed was just one of a number of alleged pay-to-play operations involving members of Congress he was involved in.

In total, Kao and his team had donated nearly $900,000 to dozens of lawmakers, allowing the Hawaii-based Navatek to establish operations in half a dozen states with more than $40 million a year in government funding, ProPublica reported

The FBI had gathered enough evidence that it was on the verge of launching a bribery and corruption probe that could have implicated top politicians from both political parties by the end of 2024.

However, the probe was derailed by Trump’s 2024 election victory. When the president returned to office, he gutted the Department of Justice and fired multiple workers who had worked on federal criminal cases against Trump as part of his retribution campaign.

One of the agents who had taken Kao’s confession was pushed out amid the administration’s purge of officials involved in investigating Trump’s attempt to overturn the 2020 election.

As a result of Trump reshaping the DOJ, the probe into alleged pay-to-play bribery in Congress was shuttered.

Sigh.

naval contracts ¿ well this ought to be a ¡ great bargain for $368000000000 of australian taxpayer funds

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Date: 23/09/2026 16:47:37
From: Ian
ID: 2432620
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 23/09/2026 16:49:40
From: kii
ID: 2432622
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ian said:



Hegseth is such a sodden goober.

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Date: 23/09/2026 17:06:46
From: Michael V
ID: 2432629
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ian said:



:)

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Date: 23/09/2026 22:24:01
From: kii
ID: 2432766
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump: I had a good time making a nice speech today. I’ve gotten actually very good marks. They gave me good marks. I don’t know what that means.

“Hello, Mr Prime Minister. How are you? Everything good? Look at you people.”

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Date: 24/09/2026 04:33:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432803
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

Trump: I had a good time making a nice speech today. I’ve gotten actually very good marks. They gave me good marks. I don’t know what that means.

“Hello, Mr Prime Minister. How are you? Everything good? Look at you people.”

akkeged

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Date: 24/09/2026 04:33:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432804
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

Trump: I had a good time making a nice speech today. I’ve gotten actually very good marks. They gave me good marks. I don’t know what that means.

“Hello, Mr Prime Minister. How are you? Everything good? Look at you people.”

akkeged


sorry obviously a typographical error and we meant akkkeged

fkkk

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Date: 24/09/2026 10:00:12
From: dv
ID: 2432857
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I’ve previously discussed the prospects of Dan Osborn, who is running as an independent for Nebraska’s senate slot. He is a labour union leader, ex-military, and while he has differences with the Dems, he is someone they can work woth, so The Democrats are not running a candidate in Nebraska. Polling has been scant but broadly indicates that it is a close race between Osborn and the Republican candidate.

There’s a similar situation in South Dakota, where Brian Bengs is running as an independent. He is a former Democrat. The Dems were fielding a candidate, be he dropped out of the race. Bengs is a bit behind but the trend is for him.

These are Senate positions that the Democrats really have no hope of winning so the prospect of them being out of Republican hands is a boon.

There is a similar situation in Montana except that the Dem candidate, Alani Bankhead, does not want to withdraw. The independent, Bodnar, is another former Democrat.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/6023722-alani-bankhead-rejects-exit-deadline/

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Date: 24/09/2026 10:25:52
From: kii
ID: 2432871
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bill?

Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) warned Tuesday that many employees in the American airline industry may be part of the “furry community.

Link.

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Date: 24/09/2026 10:32:38
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2432877
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Bill?

Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) warned Tuesday that many employees in the American airline industry may be part of the “furry community.

Link.

I haven’t been in the trade for nearly two decades now, so I’m not up with the latest bullshit.
But if that dickhead states it, you can be pretty sure it’s gold-plates bullshit.

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Date: 24/09/2026 10:36:33
From: kii
ID: 2432880
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


kii said:

Bill?

Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) warned Tuesday that many employees in the American airline industry may be part of the “furry community.

Link.

I haven’t been in the trade for nearly two decades now, so I’m not up with the latest bullshit.
But if that dickhead states it, you can be pretty sure it’s gold-plates bullshit.

But are YOU a Furry?

lololol…

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Date: 24/09/2026 10:37:43
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2432882
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Spiny Norman said:

kii said:

Bill?

Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) warned Tuesday that many employees in the American airline industry may be part of the “furry community.

Link.

I haven’t been in the trade for nearly two decades now, so I’m not up with the latest bullshit.
But if that dickhead states it, you can be pretty sure it’s gold-plates bullshit.

But are YOU a Furry?

lololol…

Yes.
Spocky is always asking me to trim my beard and I haven’t trimmed my hair for a fair while, it’s around my shoulders now,

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Date: 24/09/2026 10:40:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 2432884
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


kii said:

Spiny Norman said:

I haven’t been in the trade for nearly two decades now, so I’m not up with the latest bullshit.
But if that dickhead states it, you can be pretty sure it’s gold-plates bullshit.

But are YOU a Furry?

lololol…

Yes.
Spocky is always asking me to trim my beard and I haven’t trimmed my hair for a fair while, it’s around my shoulders now,

Yair my hair is halfway down my back, my daughter told me the other day.

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Date: 24/09/2026 10:43:41
From: kii
ID: 2432886
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

There is a similar situation in Montana except that the Dem candidate, Alani Bankhead, does not want to withdraw. The independent, Bodnar, is another former Democrat.

Interesting – the situation in Montana, I wonder what is happening there?

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Date: 24/09/2026 10:46:44
From: Cymek
ID: 2432887
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


kii said:

Bill?

Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) warned Tuesday that many employees in the American airline industry may be part of the “furry community.

Link.

I haven’t been in the trade for nearly two decades now, so I’m not up with the latest bullshit.
But if that dickhead states it, you can be pretty sure it’s gold-plates bullshit.

If they went to Brazil would they still be furries

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Date: 24/09/2026 10:48:24
From: kii
ID: 2432888
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


kii said:

Spiny Norman said:

I haven’t been in the trade for nearly two decades now, so I’m not up with the latest bullshit.
But if that dickhead states it, you can be pretty sure it’s gold-plates bullshit.

But are YOU a Furry?

lololol…

Yes.
Spocky is always asking me to trim my beard and I haven’t trimmed my hair for a fair while, it’s around my shoulders now,

mr kii would stop trimming his handlebar moustache sometimes. It was a bit hysterical as it curled under his chin, and grew over his top lip. He liked to preen the bits under his chin and tell me how “pretty” he was. He was a hoot.

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Date: 24/09/2026 10:49:30
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2432889
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Spiny Norman said:

kii said:

But are YOU a Furry?

lololol…

Yes.
Spocky is always asking me to trim my beard and I haven’t trimmed my hair for a fair while, it’s around my shoulders now,

mr kii would stop trimming his handlebar moustache sometimes. It was a bit hysterical as it curled under his chin, and grew over his top lip. He liked to preen the bits under his chin and tell me how “pretty” he was. He was a hoot.

:)

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Date: 24/09/2026 11:00:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2432895
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

dv said:

There is a similar situation in Montana except that the Dem candidate, Alani Bankhead, does not want to withdraw. The independent, Bodnar, is another former Democrat.

Interesting – the situation in Montana, I wonder what is happening there?

team sports, imagine the fascistest sociopathicest rapistest party you can have, then they still get half the votes

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Date: 24/09/2026 11:02:28
From: dv
ID: 2432899
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Interesting – the situation in Montana, I wonder what is happening there?

Well I do have some info on that and even a link to a news article on the topic. There is a similar situation in Montana except that the Dem candidate, Alani Bankhead, does not want to withdraw. The independent, Bodnar, is another former Democrat.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/6023722-alani-bankhead-rejects-exit-deadline/

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Date: 24/09/2026 11:03:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2432900
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Bill?

Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) warned Tuesday that many employees in the American airline industry may be part of the “furry community.

Link.

WTAF?

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Date: 24/09/2026 11:06:47
From: dv
ID: 2432904
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

Bill?

Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) warned Tuesday that many employees in the American airline industry may be part of the “furry community.

Link.

WTAF?

It is easy to lampoon these people but they seem to want to talk about anything other than the very real crises the country is facing.

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Date: 24/09/2026 11:19:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2432911
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Michael V said:

kii said:

Bill?

Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) warned Tuesday that many employees in the American airline industry may be part of the “furry community.

Link.

WTAF?

It is easy to lampoon these people but they seem to want to talk about anything other than the very real crises the country is facing.

Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) seems to be utterly deranged.

I mean who cares what people get up to in their spare time if it doesn’t hurt others? And furries. People playing dressing up and arting. I certainly don’t think they are out to hurt anyone

But he does, obviously. Maybe he thinks people should only get up to his particular brand of nasty Christianity.

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Date: 24/09/2026 13:57:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433007
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

wait

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Date: 24/09/2026 14:54:15
From: Michael V
ID: 2433021
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

wait


Bugger LL.

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Date: 24/09/2026 15:56:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2433062
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

This selfie that Albo took with the great man is terrific.
I wish I had a full head of hair like him

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Date: 24/09/2026 15:57:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2433063
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


This selfie that Albo took with the great man is terrific.
I wish I had a full head of hair like him

And the healthy rosy cheeks.

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Date: 24/09/2026 15:57:40
From: Cymek
ID: 2433064
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


This selfie that Albo took with the great man is terrific.
I wish I had a full head of hair like him

You’re a cue ball ?

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Date: 24/09/2026 15:58:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2433065
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

This selfie that Albo took with the great man is terrific.
I wish I had a full head of hair like him

And the healthy rosy cheeks.

And his teeth are perfect.

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Date: 24/09/2026 15:59:02
From: dv
ID: 2433066
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2026/09/23/i-am-code-trump-clashed-with-ballroom-architect-over-safety-issues/

“I am the code,” said the President.

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Date: 24/09/2026 15:59:54
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2433067
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

This selfie that Albo took with the great man is terrific.
I wish I had a full head of hair like him

And the healthy rosy cheeks.

How about the odor of faeces coming from your pants?

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:02:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433070
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

This selfie that Albo took with the great man is terrific.
I wish I had a full head of hair like him

And the healthy rosy cheeks.

And his teeth are perfect.

we heard that kissing arse is good for the enamel

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:02:21
From: dv
ID: 2433071
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

This selfie that Albo took with the great man is terrific.
I wish I had a full head of hair like him

And the healthy rosy cheeks.

How about the odor of faeces coming from your pants?

Since when does PWM wear pants

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:03:18
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2433072
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And the healthy rosy cheeks.

How about the odor of faeces coming from your pants?

Since when does PWM wear pants

Hopefully to church.

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:06:34
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2433074
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Judge orders reversal of journalistic ban

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/us-judge-reverses-donald-trump-media-ban-cnn-politico-ms-now/107192236

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:07:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2433075
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Judge orders reversal of journalistic ban

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/us-judge-reverses-donald-trump-media-ban-cnn-politico-ms-now/107192236

I hope that the CNN, MSNOW, and Politico people are sitting in the front row at the next White House press conference.

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:13:18
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2433078
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

Judge orders reversal of journalistic ban

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/us-judge-reverses-donald-trump-media-ban-cnn-politico-ms-now/107192236

I hope that the CNN, MSNOW, and Politico people are sitting in the front row at the next White House press conference.

What’s annoying is that it’s largely convention to give press credentials to all prominent organisations but there’s probably ways for this administration to legally ban those Trump hates. He has no shame and he might find a compliant judge who wishes to curry favour. The stupid cnut got all offended when he saw the journos in question covering him at the UN yesterday.

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:17:43
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2433084
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

This selfie that Albo took with the great man is terrific.
I wish I had a full head of hair like him

And the healthy rosy cheeks.

He has a fine head of hair.

When the wind’s in the right direction.

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:23:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2433087
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

This selfie that Albo took with the great man is terrific.
I wish I had a full head of hair like him

And the healthy rosy cheeks.

He has a fine head of hair.

When the wind’s in the right direction.

A nicer recent snap of our PM.

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:25:36
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2433089
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And the healthy rosy cheeks.

He has a fine head of hair.

When the wind’s in the right direction.

A nicer recent snap of our PM.


I feel like a voyeur looking at that pic.

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:25:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433090
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And the healthy rosy cheeks.

He has a fine head of hair.

When the wind’s in the right direction.

A nicer recent snap of our PM.

OK that doesn’t look as sycophantically gross

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:26:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433091
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

He has a fine head of hair.

When the wind’s in the right direction.

A nicer recent snap of our PM.

I feel like a voyeur looking at that pic.

LOL

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:28:25
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2433092
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

He has a fine head of hair.

When the wind’s in the right direction.

A nicer recent snap of our PM.


I feel like a voyeur looking at that pic.

Just blokes being blokes. Do you have something against blokes?!?

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:29:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2433094
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

He has a fine head of hair.

When the wind’s in the right direction.

A nicer recent snap of our PM.

OK that doesn’t look as sycophantically gross

Wouldn’t be surprised if someone was missing a wallet after that.

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:30:34
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2433096
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

A nicer recent snap of our PM.


I feel like a voyeur looking at that pic.

Just blokes being blokes. Do you have something against blokes?!?

Feels like it’s interrupting a moment is all.

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:47:09
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2433110
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The generic ballot has the Dems out to an almost 9 point lead

This has them at an almost 90% chance of taking the House and an almost 70% chance of taking the Senate.

Texas remains the tipping point state, and Talarico currently has about a 3 point lead (still feels too close to call in an R+12 state)

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Date: 24/09/2026 16:51:36
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2433112
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Texas’ most popular BBQ place has dropped brisket from its menu due to the high price. If there’s one thing to turn Texas against Trump, it’s taking away their beef.

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Date: 24/09/2026 17:03:28
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2433117
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Texas’ most popular BBQ place has dropped brisket from its menu due to the high price. If there’s one thing to turn Texas against Trump, it’s taking away their beef.

I’m still kinda skeptical on likelihood of the Dems flipping Texas…

Like I said, Texas is historically something like an R+12 or R+13 state. If the generic ballot has the Dems out by 9 nationwide, that still leaves a 4 point gap. It seems like Talarico is an above average candidate (and by that I mean he’s performing better than the generic poll) but 4 points still feels like a mountain.

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Date: 24/09/2026 17:09:05
From: Michael V
ID: 2433121
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


The generic ballot has the Dems out to an almost 9 point lead

This has them at an almost 90% chance of taking the House and an almost 70% chance of taking the Senate.

Texas remains the tipping point state, and Talarico currently has about a 3 point lead (still feels too close to call in an R+12 state)

Good. I hope they get both houses.

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Date: 24/09/2026 17:09:52
From: Michael V
ID: 2433122
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Texas’ most popular BBQ place has dropped brisket from its menu due to the high price. If there’s one thing to turn Texas against Trump, it’s taking away their beef.

And brisket is a relatively cheap cut of beef.

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Date: 24/09/2026 17:12:36
From: Cymek
ID: 2433125
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


diddly-squat said:

The generic ballot has the Dems out to an almost 9 point lead

This has them at an almost 90% chance of taking the House and an almost 70% chance of taking the Senate.

Texas remains the tipping point state, and Talarico currently has about a 3 point lead (still feels too close to call in an R+12 state)

Good. I hope they get both houses.

Could they bring in a ringer type Democrat
One who is multi generational inbreed, card carrying KKK member, fundamentalist Christian whose is also a Chuck Norris fan

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Date: 24/09/2026 17:16:03
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2433126
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Michael V said:

diddly-squat said:

The generic ballot has the Dems out to an almost 9 point lead

This has them at an almost 90% chance of taking the House and an almost 70% chance of taking the Senate.

Texas remains the tipping point state, and Talarico currently has about a 3 point lead (still feels too close to call in an R+12 state)

Good. I hope they get both houses.

Could they bring in a ringer type Democrat
One who is multi generational inbreed, card carrying KKK member, fundamentalist Christian whose is also a Chuck Norris fan

🦄

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Date: 24/09/2026 17:31:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 2433132
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/us-judge-reverses-donald-trump-media-ban-cnn-politico-ms-now/107192236

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Date: 24/09/2026 17:38:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433137
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Judge orders reversal of journalistic ban

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/us-judge-reverses-donald-trump-media-ban-cnn-politico-ms-now/107192236

I hope that the CNN, MSNOW, and Politico people are sitting in the front row at the next White House press conference.

What’s annoying is that it’s largely convention to give press credentials to all prominent organisations but there’s probably ways for this administration to legally ban those Trump hates. He has no shame and he might find a compliant judge who wishes to curry favour. The stupid cnut got all offended when he saw the journos in question covering him at the UN yesterday.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/us-judge-reverses-donald-trump-media-ban-cnn-politico-ms-now/107192236

oh well at least there will be some balance to the propaganda now

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Date: 24/09/2026 18:28:28
From: dv
ID: 2433158
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Divine Angel said:

Texas’ most popular BBQ place has dropped brisket from its menu due to the high price. If there’s one thing to turn Texas against Trump, it’s taking away their beef.

I’m still kinda skeptical on likelihood of the Dems flipping Texas…

Like I said, Texas is historically something like an R+12 or R+13 state. If the generic ballot has the Dems out by 9 nationwide, that still leaves a 4 point gap. It seems like Talarico is an above average candidate (and by that I mean he’s performing better than the generic poll) but 4 points still feels like a mountain.

I hear what you’re saying. If you’re gambling man you can get around $2.40 for the Paxton win.

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Date: 24/09/2026 19:55:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433182
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

This selfie that Albo took with the great man is terrific.
I wish I had a full head of hair like him

And the healthy rosy cheeks.

He has a fine head of hair.

When the wind’s in the right direction.

A nicer recent snap of our PM.

OK that doesn’t look as sycophantically gross

actually seeing it across the internet a few more times yous know what, we take back our sledging over our dear prime minister, actually it was a classic AntonAlban master stroke to make this unflattering relatively unretouched unairbrushed un爱beautified grossness seem like a gushing act of support

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Date: 24/09/2026 19:59:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 2433184
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

A nicer recent snap of our PM.

OK that doesn’t look as sycophantically gross

actually seeing it across the internet a few more times yous know what, we take back our sledging over our dear prime minister, actually it was a classic AntonAlban master stroke to make this unflattering relatively unretouched unairbrushed un爱beautified grossness seem like a gushing act of support

After listening to Trump they were probably both looking for a hug.

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Date: 25/09/2026 05:07:18
From: Ian
ID: 2433212
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., is turning his attention to the potential health effects of electromagnetic fields and radio frequency radiation—stoking a controversial theory that digital devices are doing untold damage to human health…

..also spread unsubstantiated claims about vaccines, geoengineering and fluoride. At the event, Kennedy also said HHS would investigate “chemtrails”—lines of water condensation, or contrails, from airplanes that some people believe, without evidence, spread secret biological or chemical agents.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/rfk-jr-is-focusing-attention-on-electromagnetic-fields-heres-what-the-science-says-about-exposure/

Excellent

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Date: 25/09/2026 07:49:24
From: ms spock
ID: 2433241
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

OK that doesn’t look as sycophantically gross

actually seeing it across the internet a few more times yous know what, we take back our sledging over our dear prime minister, actually it was a classic AntonAlban master stroke to make this unflattering relatively unretouched unairbrushed un爱beautified grossness seem like a gushing act of support

After listening to Trump they were probably both looking for a hug.

“Please get me out of here!”

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Date: 25/09/2026 08:59:32
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2433278
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Occupy Democrats

BREAKING: Tucker Carlson reveals a jaw-dropping private conversation he had with Trump in which he warned him that the Iran War would destroy America and Trump said: “We all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.”

This maniac has the nuclear codes…

“I’m in an unusual position because I talked to Trump,” Carlson told Steve Inskeep of the NPR Newsmakers podcast.

The former Fox News host has become one of the President’s fiercest critics over the past year, with his most vociferous attacks aimed at the disastrous, pointless war with Iran.

“But you’ve quoted him as waving off the risk by saying it’ll all be fine which could almost—” said Inskeep of Trump’s posture towards the conflict.

“You want to know what he said?” replied Carlson. “I’ll tell you exactly what he said and I haven’t said this but I’m just gonna tell you. And this is a fact. And I could look at my calendar but I had flown back from Tel Aviv from Ben Gurion Airport after seeing the ambassador and two days later I was in the Oval with Trump alone.”

“And he was annoyed that I had given Huckabee a hard time in this whole conversation about Huckabee and I said your U.S. ambassador — and as the son of an ambassador — I know what the job entails,” recounted Carlson. “And your ambassador, your representative to this nation just called for rearranging the Middle East and allowing Israel to take parts of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria. Like this is a diplomatic incident and so we had this whole conversation about this.”

“But then I said this war is not about Iran’s nuclear program, which you told me and the world that you eliminated back in last summer, in June,” Carlson continued. “This war is being pushed by Israel with three aims…”

“One, its own regional hegemony. Take Iran off the map. They don’t have freedom of movement as long as Iran is a regional power.

“Two, diminishing the power of the GCC, the six Gulf states which are a rival to Israel and are becoming this kind of Switzerland of the Middle East and that’s bad for Israeli interests.”

“And three, getting the U.S. out of the Middle East because we constrain their ambitions, getting our bases out, destroying our bases. Israel wants our bases out of the Middle East. I said this to Trump to his face in the Oval Office days before the war began,” said Carlson.

“And he looked at me and said ‘Yes, you’re right. But in the end we all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.’ That’s exactly what he said ‘In the end, we all die anyway,’ and I said to him, shocked, ‘But what about our kids and our grandkids and like our country and he goes ‘Uggggh.’”

“What does that mean?” a perplexed Inskeep asked of the bizarre, dismissive noise.

“I don’t know! That’s a verbatim exchange,” said Carlson. “And you know as God watches I said that. I thought it was true then and I think it’s been proven true now.”

“The goal was to get the U.S. out, to diminish the GCC, and obviously to take Iran off the map and sink it into permanent internal strife into civil war, sectarian strife,” said Carlson. “And he said it doesn’t matter because in the end we’re all dead anyway. And I was shocked by that because it’s nihilism and that’s the last thing any leader should display or any person should display. It does matter. Who lives or dies does matter. The future does matter.”

As horrifying as Trump’s anti-human remarks are, they are perfectly in keeping with his personality. This man is an egomaniacal sociopath. He doesn’t believe in God, doesn’t believe in the rule of law or right and wrong. As far as he’s concerned, the world ends when he dies. He couldn’t care less what happens to the rest of us.

It’s also not the first time that Trump has given the world such an unvarnished look into his nihilistic worldview. In a 2004 interview with Larry King, he shared similar sentiments—

“I try and tell myself it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. If you tell yourself it doesn’t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed,” said Trump. “Honestly, it doesn’t matter. That’s how I handle stress.”

Within this kind of moral framework (or lack thereof) Trump’s entire life makes sense. Since he believes in nothing, he has chosen to indulge in every cruelty and evil imaginable. He spent his time on this Earth ripping people off, sexually abusing and raping women, allegedly including children, and then used the powers of the White House to slaughter countless people overseas.

If the Devil exists, this is what he looks like.

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Date: 25/09/2026 09:28:32
From: Michael V
ID: 2433286
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Occupy Democrats

BREAKING: Tucker Carlson reveals a jaw-dropping private conversation he had with Trump in which he warned him that the Iran War would destroy America and Trump said: “We all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.”

This maniac has the nuclear codes…

“I’m in an unusual position because I talked to Trump,” Carlson told Steve Inskeep of the NPR Newsmakers podcast.

The former Fox News host has become one of the President’s fiercest critics over the past year, with his most vociferous attacks aimed at the disastrous, pointless war with Iran.

“But you’ve quoted him as waving off the risk by saying it’ll all be fine which could almost—” said Inskeep of Trump’s posture towards the conflict.

“You want to know what he said?” replied Carlson. “I’ll tell you exactly what he said and I haven’t said this but I’m just gonna tell you. And this is a fact. And I could look at my calendar but I had flown back from Tel Aviv from Ben Gurion Airport after seeing the ambassador and two days later I was in the Oval with Trump alone.”

“And he was annoyed that I had given Huckabee a hard time in this whole conversation about Huckabee and I said your U.S. ambassador — and as the son of an ambassador — I know what the job entails,” recounted Carlson. “And your ambassador, your representative to this nation just called for rearranging the Middle East and allowing Israel to take parts of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria. Like this is a diplomatic incident and so we had this whole conversation about this.”

“But then I said this war is not about Iran’s nuclear program, which you told me and the world that you eliminated back in last summer, in June,” Carlson continued. “This war is being pushed by Israel with three aims…”

“One, its own regional hegemony. Take Iran off the map. They don’t have freedom of movement as long as Iran is a regional power.

“Two, diminishing the power of the GCC, the six Gulf states which are a rival to Israel and are becoming this kind of Switzerland of the Middle East and that’s bad for Israeli interests.”

“And three, getting the U.S. out of the Middle East because we constrain their ambitions, getting our bases out, destroying our bases. Israel wants our bases out of the Middle East. I said this to Trump to his face in the Oval Office days before the war began,” said Carlson.

“And he looked at me and said ‘Yes, you’re right. But in the end we all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.’ That’s exactly what he said ‘In the end, we all die anyway,’ and I said to him, shocked, ‘But what about our kids and our grandkids and like our country and he goes ‘Uggggh.’”

“What does that mean?” a perplexed Inskeep asked of the bizarre, dismissive noise.

“I don’t know! That’s a verbatim exchange,” said Carlson. “And you know as God watches I said that. I thought it was true then and I think it’s been proven true now.”

“The goal was to get the U.S. out, to diminish the GCC, and obviously to take Iran off the map and sink it into permanent internal strife into civil war, sectarian strife,” said Carlson. “And he said it doesn’t matter because in the end we’re all dead anyway. And I was shocked by that because it’s nihilism and that’s the last thing any leader should display or any person should display. It does matter. Who lives or dies does matter. The future does matter.”

As horrifying as Trump’s anti-human remarks are, they are perfectly in keeping with his personality. This man is an egomaniacal sociopath. He doesn’t believe in God, doesn’t believe in the rule of law or right and wrong. As far as he’s concerned, the world ends when he dies. He couldn’t care less what happens to the rest of us.

It’s also not the first time that Trump has given the world such an unvarnished look into his nihilistic worldview. In a 2004 interview with Larry King, he shared similar sentiments—

“I try and tell myself it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. If you tell yourself it doesn’t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed,” said Trump. “Honestly, it doesn’t matter. That’s how I handle stress.”

Within this kind of moral framework (or lack thereof) Trump’s entire life makes sense. Since he believes in nothing, he has chosen to indulge in every cruelty and evil imaginable. He spent his time on this Earth ripping people off, sexually abusing and raping women, allegedly including children, and then used the powers of the White House to slaughter countless people overseas.

If the Devil exists, this is what he looks like.

!!!

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Date: 25/09/2026 09:29:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2433287
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Occupy Democrats

BREAKING: Tucker Carlson reveals a jaw-dropping private conversation he had with Trump in which he warned him that the Iran War would destroy America and Trump said: “We all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.”

This maniac has the nuclear codes…

“I’m in an unusual position because I talked to Trump,” Carlson told Steve Inskeep of the NPR Newsmakers podcast.

The former Fox News host has become one of the President’s fiercest critics over the past year, with his most vociferous attacks aimed at the disastrous, pointless war with Iran.

“But you’ve quoted him as waving off the risk by saying it’ll all be fine which could almost—” said Inskeep of Trump’s posture towards the conflict.

“You want to know what he said?” replied Carlson. “I’ll tell you exactly what he said and I haven’t said this but I’m just gonna tell you. And this is a fact. And I could look at my calendar but I had flown back from Tel Aviv from Ben Gurion Airport after seeing the ambassador and two days later I was in the Oval with Trump alone.”

“And he was annoyed that I had given Huckabee a hard time in this whole conversation about Huckabee and I said your U.S. ambassador — and as the son of an ambassador — I know what the job entails,” recounted Carlson. “And your ambassador, your representative to this nation just called for rearranging the Middle East and allowing Israel to take parts of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria. Like this is a diplomatic incident and so we had this whole conversation about this.”

“But then I said this war is not about Iran’s nuclear program, which you told me and the world that you eliminated back in last summer, in June,” Carlson continued. “This war is being pushed by Israel with three aims…”

“One, its own regional hegemony. Take Iran off the map. They don’t have freedom of movement as long as Iran is a regional power.

“Two, diminishing the power of the GCC, the six Gulf states which are a rival to Israel and are becoming this kind of Switzerland of the Middle East and that’s bad for Israeli interests.”

“And three, getting the U.S. out of the Middle East because we constrain their ambitions, getting our bases out, destroying our bases. Israel wants our bases out of the Middle East. I said this to Trump to his face in the Oval Office days before the war began,” said Carlson.

“And he looked at me and said ‘Yes, you’re right. But in the end we all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.’ That’s exactly what he said ‘In the end, we all die anyway,’ and I said to him, shocked, ‘But what about our kids and our grandkids and like our country and he goes ‘Uggggh.’”

“What does that mean?” a perplexed Inskeep asked of the bizarre, dismissive noise.

“I don’t know! That’s a verbatim exchange,” said Carlson. “And you know as God watches I said that. I thought it was true then and I think it’s been proven true now.”

“The goal was to get the U.S. out, to diminish the GCC, and obviously to take Iran off the map and sink it into permanent internal strife into civil war, sectarian strife,” said Carlson. “And he said it doesn’t matter because in the end we’re all dead anyway. And I was shocked by that because it’s nihilism and that’s the last thing any leader should display or any person should display. It does matter. Who lives or dies does matter. The future does matter.”

As horrifying as Trump’s anti-human remarks are, they are perfectly in keeping with his personality. This man is an egomaniacal sociopath. He doesn’t believe in God, doesn’t believe in the rule of law or right and wrong. As far as he’s concerned, the world ends when he dies. He couldn’t care less what happens to the rest of us.

It’s also not the first time that Trump has given the world such an unvarnished look into his nihilistic worldview. In a 2004 interview with Larry King, he shared similar sentiments—

“I try and tell myself it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. If you tell yourself it doesn’t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed,” said Trump. “Honestly, it doesn’t matter. That’s how I handle stress.”

Within this kind of moral framework (or lack thereof) Trump’s entire life makes sense. Since he believes in nothing, he has chosen to indulge in every cruelty and evil imaginable. He spent his time on this Earth ripping people off, sexually abusing and raping women, allegedly including children, and then used the powers of the White House to slaughter countless people overseas.

If the Devil exists, this is what he looks like.

I remember when Tucker Carlson was the anti christ and everything he said was a lie.

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Date: 25/09/2026 09:33:34
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2433289
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:

I remember when Tucker Carlson was the anti christ and everything he said was a lie.

That seems to be the opinion of many. wonders never cease.

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Date: 25/09/2026 09:35:02
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2433290
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Occupy Democrats

BREAKING: Tucker Carlson reveals a jaw-dropping private conversation he had with Trump in which he warned him that the Iran War would destroy America and Trump said: “We all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.”

This maniac has the nuclear codes…

“I’m in an unusual position because I talked to Trump,” Carlson told Steve Inskeep of the NPR Newsmakers podcast.

The former Fox News host has become one of the President’s fiercest critics over the past year, with his most vociferous attacks aimed at the disastrous, pointless war with Iran.

“But you’ve quoted him as waving off the risk by saying it’ll all be fine which could almost—” said Inskeep of Trump’s posture towards the conflict.

“You want to know what he said?” replied Carlson. “I’ll tell you exactly what he said and I haven’t said this but I’m just gonna tell you. And this is a fact. And I could look at my calendar but I had flown back from Tel Aviv from Ben Gurion Airport after seeing the ambassador and two days later I was in the Oval with Trump alone.”

“And he was annoyed that I had given Huckabee a hard time in this whole conversation about Huckabee and I said your U.S. ambassador — and as the son of an ambassador — I know what the job entails,” recounted Carlson. “And your ambassador, your representative to this nation just called for rearranging the Middle East and allowing Israel to take parts of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria. Like this is a diplomatic incident and so we had this whole conversation about this.”

“But then I said this war is not about Iran’s nuclear program, which you told me and the world that you eliminated back in last summer, in June,” Carlson continued. “This war is being pushed by Israel with three aims…”

“One, its own regional hegemony. Take Iran off the map. They don’t have freedom of movement as long as Iran is a regional power.

“Two, diminishing the power of the GCC, the six Gulf states which are a rival to Israel and are becoming this kind of Switzerland of the Middle East and that’s bad for Israeli interests.”

“And three, getting the U.S. out of the Middle East because we constrain their ambitions, getting our bases out, destroying our bases. Israel wants our bases out of the Middle East. I said this to Trump to his face in the Oval Office days before the war began,” said Carlson.

“And he looked at me and said ‘Yes, you’re right. But in the end we all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.’ That’s exactly what he said ‘In the end, we all die anyway,’ and I said to him, shocked, ‘But what about our kids and our grandkids and like our country and he goes ‘Uggggh.’”

“What does that mean?” a perplexed Inskeep asked of the bizarre, dismissive noise.

“I don’t know! That’s a verbatim exchange,” said Carlson. “And you know as God watches I said that. I thought it was true then and I think it’s been proven true now.”

“The goal was to get the U.S. out, to diminish the GCC, and obviously to take Iran off the map and sink it into permanent internal strife into civil war, sectarian strife,” said Carlson. “And he said it doesn’t matter because in the end we’re all dead anyway. And I was shocked by that because it’s nihilism and that’s the last thing any leader should display or any person should display. It does matter. Who lives or dies does matter. The future does matter.”

As horrifying as Trump’s anti-human remarks are, they are perfectly in keeping with his personality. This man is an egomaniacal sociopath. He doesn’t believe in God, doesn’t believe in the rule of law or right and wrong. As far as he’s concerned, the world ends when he dies. He couldn’t care less what happens to the rest of us.

It’s also not the first time that Trump has given the world such an unvarnished look into his nihilistic worldview. In a 2004 interview with Larry King, he shared similar sentiments—

“I try and tell myself it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. If you tell yourself it doesn’t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed,” said Trump. “Honestly, it doesn’t matter. That’s how I handle stress.”

Within this kind of moral framework (or lack thereof) Trump’s entire life makes sense. Since he believes in nothing, he has chosen to indulge in every cruelty and evil imaginable. He spent his time on this Earth ripping people off, sexually abusing and raping women, allegedly including children, and then used the powers of the White House to slaughter countless people overseas.

If the Devil exists, this is what he looks like.

And point four – to further attempt to distract from the Epstein files.

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Date: 25/09/2026 09:35:46
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2433291
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


JudgeMental said:

Occupy Democrats

BREAKING: Tucker Carlson reveals a jaw-dropping private conversation he had with Trump in which he warned him that the Iran War would destroy America and Trump said: “We all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.”

This maniac has the nuclear codes…

“I’m in an unusual position because I talked to Trump,” Carlson told Steve Inskeep of the NPR Newsmakers podcast.

The former Fox News host has become one of the President’s fiercest critics over the past year, with his most vociferous attacks aimed at the disastrous, pointless war with Iran.

“But you’ve quoted him as waving off the risk by saying it’ll all be fine which could almost—” said Inskeep of Trump’s posture towards the conflict.

“You want to know what he said?” replied Carlson. “I’ll tell you exactly what he said and I haven’t said this but I’m just gonna tell you. And this is a fact. And I could look at my calendar but I had flown back from Tel Aviv from Ben Gurion Airport after seeing the ambassador and two days later I was in the Oval with Trump alone.”

“And he was annoyed that I had given Huckabee a hard time in this whole conversation about Huckabee and I said your U.S. ambassador — and as the son of an ambassador — I know what the job entails,” recounted Carlson. “And your ambassador, your representative to this nation just called for rearranging the Middle East and allowing Israel to take parts of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria. Like this is a diplomatic incident and so we had this whole conversation about this.”

“But then I said this war is not about Iran’s nuclear program, which you told me and the world that you eliminated back in last summer, in June,” Carlson continued. “This war is being pushed by Israel with three aims…”

“One, its own regional hegemony. Take Iran off the map. They don’t have freedom of movement as long as Iran is a regional power.

“Two, diminishing the power of the GCC, the six Gulf states which are a rival to Israel and are becoming this kind of Switzerland of the Middle East and that’s bad for Israeli interests.”

“And three, getting the U.S. out of the Middle East because we constrain their ambitions, getting our bases out, destroying our bases. Israel wants our bases out of the Middle East. I said this to Trump to his face in the Oval Office days before the war began,” said Carlson.

“And he looked at me and said ‘Yes, you’re right. But in the end we all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.’ That’s exactly what he said ‘In the end, we all die anyway,’ and I said to him, shocked, ‘But what about our kids and our grandkids and like our country and he goes ‘Uggggh.’”

“What does that mean?” a perplexed Inskeep asked of the bizarre, dismissive noise.

“I don’t know! That’s a verbatim exchange,” said Carlson. “And you know as God watches I said that. I thought it was true then and I think it’s been proven true now.”

“The goal was to get the U.S. out, to diminish the GCC, and obviously to take Iran off the map and sink it into permanent internal strife into civil war, sectarian strife,” said Carlson. “And he said it doesn’t matter because in the end we’re all dead anyway. And I was shocked by that because it’s nihilism and that’s the last thing any leader should display or any person should display. It does matter. Who lives or dies does matter. The future does matter.”

As horrifying as Trump’s anti-human remarks are, they are perfectly in keeping with his personality. This man is an egomaniacal sociopath. He doesn’t believe in God, doesn’t believe in the rule of law or right and wrong. As far as he’s concerned, the world ends when he dies. He couldn’t care less what happens to the rest of us.

It’s also not the first time that Trump has given the world such an unvarnished look into his nihilistic worldview. In a 2004 interview with Larry King, he shared similar sentiments—

“I try and tell myself it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. If you tell yourself it doesn’t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed,” said Trump. “Honestly, it doesn’t matter. That’s how I handle stress.”

Within this kind of moral framework (or lack thereof) Trump’s entire life makes sense. Since he believes in nothing, he has chosen to indulge in every cruelty and evil imaginable. He spent his time on this Earth ripping people off, sexually abusing and raping women, allegedly including children, and then used the powers of the White House to slaughter countless people overseas.

If the Devil exists, this is what he looks like.

I remember when Tucker Carlson was the anti christ and everything he said was a lie.

That’s still true.

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Date: 25/09/2026 09:38:47
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2433292
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

(Not so) great makeup work there to cover whatever is under that on Shitler’s right hand.

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Date: 25/09/2026 09:48:08
From: Michael V
ID: 2433296
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


JudgeMental said:

Occupy Democrats

BREAKING: Tucker Carlson reveals a jaw-dropping private conversation he had with Trump in which he warned him that the Iran War would destroy America and Trump said: “We all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.”

This maniac has the nuclear codes…

“I’m in an unusual position because I talked to Trump,” Carlson told Steve Inskeep of the NPR Newsmakers podcast.

The former Fox News host has become one of the President’s fiercest critics over the past year, with his most vociferous attacks aimed at the disastrous, pointless war with Iran.

“But you’ve quoted him as waving off the risk by saying it’ll all be fine which could almost—” said Inskeep of Trump’s posture towards the conflict.

“You want to know what he said?” replied Carlson. “I’ll tell you exactly what he said and I haven’t said this but I’m just gonna tell you. And this is a fact. And I could look at my calendar but I had flown back from Tel Aviv from Ben Gurion Airport after seeing the ambassador and two days later I was in the Oval with Trump alone.”

“And he was annoyed that I had given Huckabee a hard time in this whole conversation about Huckabee and I said your U.S. ambassador — and as the son of an ambassador — I know what the job entails,” recounted Carlson. “And your ambassador, your representative to this nation just called for rearranging the Middle East and allowing Israel to take parts of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria. Like this is a diplomatic incident and so we had this whole conversation about this.”

“But then I said this war is not about Iran’s nuclear program, which you told me and the world that you eliminated back in last summer, in June,” Carlson continued. “This war is being pushed by Israel with three aims…”

“One, its own regional hegemony. Take Iran off the map. They don’t have freedom of movement as long as Iran is a regional power.

“Two, diminishing the power of the GCC, the six Gulf states which are a rival to Israel and are becoming this kind of Switzerland of the Middle East and that’s bad for Israeli interests.”

“And three, getting the U.S. out of the Middle East because we constrain their ambitions, getting our bases out, destroying our bases. Israel wants our bases out of the Middle East. I said this to Trump to his face in the Oval Office days before the war began,” said Carlson.

“And he looked at me and said ‘Yes, you’re right. But in the end we all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.’ That’s exactly what he said ‘In the end, we all die anyway,’ and I said to him, shocked, ‘But what about our kids and our grandkids and like our country and he goes ‘Uggggh.’”

“What does that mean?” a perplexed Inskeep asked of the bizarre, dismissive noise.

“I don’t know! That’s a verbatim exchange,” said Carlson. “And you know as God watches I said that. I thought it was true then and I think it’s been proven true now.”

“The goal was to get the U.S. out, to diminish the GCC, and obviously to take Iran off the map and sink it into permanent internal strife into civil war, sectarian strife,” said Carlson. “And he said it doesn’t matter because in the end we’re all dead anyway. And I was shocked by that because it’s nihilism and that’s the last thing any leader should display or any person should display. It does matter. Who lives or dies does matter. The future does matter.”

As horrifying as Trump’s anti-human remarks are, they are perfectly in keeping with his personality. This man is an egomaniacal sociopath. He doesn’t believe in God, doesn’t believe in the rule of law or right and wrong. As far as he’s concerned, the world ends when he dies. He couldn’t care less what happens to the rest of us.

It’s also not the first time that Trump has given the world such an unvarnished look into his nihilistic worldview. In a 2004 interview with Larry King, he shared similar sentiments—

“I try and tell myself it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. If you tell yourself it doesn’t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed,” said Trump. “Honestly, it doesn’t matter. That’s how I handle stress.”

Within this kind of moral framework (or lack thereof) Trump’s entire life makes sense. Since he believes in nothing, he has chosen to indulge in every cruelty and evil imaginable. He spent his time on this Earth ripping people off, sexually abusing and raping women, allegedly including children, and then used the powers of the White House to slaughter countless people overseas.

If the Devil exists, this is what he looks like.

I remember when Tucker Carlson was the anti christ and everything he said was a lie.

That’s why it is so extremely surprising that he said this.

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Date: 25/09/2026 09:56:11
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2433300
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


JudgeMental said:

Occupy Democrats

BREAKING: Tucker Carlson reveals a jaw-dropping private conversation he had with Trump in which he warned him that the Iran War would destroy America and Trump said: “We all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.”

This maniac has the nuclear codes…

“I’m in an unusual position because I talked to Trump,” Carlson told Steve Inskeep of the NPR Newsmakers podcast.

The former Fox News host has become one of the President’s fiercest critics over the past year, with his most vociferous attacks aimed at the disastrous, pointless war with Iran.

“But you’ve quoted him as waving off the risk by saying it’ll all be fine which could almost—” said Inskeep of Trump’s posture towards the conflict.

“You want to know what he said?” replied Carlson. “I’ll tell you exactly what he said and I haven’t said this but I’m just gonna tell you. And this is a fact. And I could look at my calendar but I had flown back from Tel Aviv from Ben Gurion Airport after seeing the ambassador and two days later I was in the Oval with Trump alone.”

“And he was annoyed that I had given Huckabee a hard time in this whole conversation about Huckabee and I said your U.S. ambassador — and as the son of an ambassador — I know what the job entails,” recounted Carlson. “And your ambassador, your representative to this nation just called for rearranging the Middle East and allowing Israel to take parts of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria. Like this is a diplomatic incident and so we had this whole conversation about this.”

“But then I said this war is not about Iran’s nuclear program, which you told me and the world that you eliminated back in last summer, in June,” Carlson continued. “This war is being pushed by Israel with three aims…”

“One, its own regional hegemony. Take Iran off the map. They don’t have freedom of movement as long as Iran is a regional power.

“Two, diminishing the power of the GCC, the six Gulf states which are a rival to Israel and are becoming this kind of Switzerland of the Middle East and that’s bad for Israeli interests.”

“And three, getting the U.S. out of the Middle East because we constrain their ambitions, getting our bases out, destroying our bases. Israel wants our bases out of the Middle East. I said this to Trump to his face in the Oval Office days before the war began,” said Carlson.

“And he looked at me and said ‘Yes, you’re right. But in the end we all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.’ That’s exactly what he said ‘In the end, we all die anyway,’ and I said to him, shocked, ‘But what about our kids and our grandkids and like our country and he goes ‘Uggggh.’”

“What does that mean?” a perplexed Inskeep asked of the bizarre, dismissive noise.

“I don’t know! That’s a verbatim exchange,” said Carlson. “And you know as God watches I said that. I thought it was true then and I think it’s been proven true now.”

“The goal was to get the U.S. out, to diminish the GCC, and obviously to take Iran off the map and sink it into permanent internal strife into civil war, sectarian strife,” said Carlson. “And he said it doesn’t matter because in the end we’re all dead anyway. And I was shocked by that because it’s nihilism and that’s the last thing any leader should display or any person should display. It does matter. Who lives or dies does matter. The future does matter.”

As horrifying as Trump’s anti-human remarks are, they are perfectly in keeping with his personality. This man is an egomaniacal sociopath. He doesn’t believe in God, doesn’t believe in the rule of law or right and wrong. As far as he’s concerned, the world ends when he dies. He couldn’t care less what happens to the rest of us.

It’s also not the first time that Trump has given the world such an unvarnished look into his nihilistic worldview. In a 2004 interview with Larry King, he shared similar sentiments—

“I try and tell myself it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. If you tell yourself it doesn’t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed,” said Trump. “Honestly, it doesn’t matter. That’s how I handle stress.”

Within this kind of moral framework (or lack thereof) Trump’s entire life makes sense. Since he believes in nothing, he has chosen to indulge in every cruelty and evil imaginable. He spent his time on this Earth ripping people off, sexually abusing and raping women, allegedly including children, and then used the powers of the White House to slaughter countless people overseas.

If the Devil exists, this is what he looks like.

I remember when Tucker Carlson was the anti christ and everything he said was a lie.

Lies or merely stupid opinions?

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Date: 25/09/2026 10:05:17
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2433305
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

JudgeMental said:

Occupy Democrats

BREAKING: Tucker Carlson reveals a jaw-dropping private conversation he had with Trump in which he warned him that the Iran War would destroy America and Trump said: “We all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.”

This maniac has the nuclear codes…

“I’m in an unusual position because I talked to Trump,” Carlson told Steve Inskeep of the NPR Newsmakers podcast.

The former Fox News host has become one of the President’s fiercest critics over the past year, with his most vociferous attacks aimed at the disastrous, pointless war with Iran.

“But you’ve quoted him as waving off the risk by saying it’ll all be fine which could almost—” said Inskeep of Trump’s posture towards the conflict.

“You want to know what he said?” replied Carlson. “I’ll tell you exactly what he said and I haven’t said this but I’m just gonna tell you. And this is a fact. And I could look at my calendar but I had flown back from Tel Aviv from Ben Gurion Airport after seeing the ambassador and two days later I was in the Oval with Trump alone.”

“And he was annoyed that I had given Huckabee a hard time in this whole conversation about Huckabee and I said your U.S. ambassador — and as the son of an ambassador — I know what the job entails,” recounted Carlson. “And your ambassador, your representative to this nation just called for rearranging the Middle East and allowing Israel to take parts of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria. Like this is a diplomatic incident and so we had this whole conversation about this.”

“But then I said this war is not about Iran’s nuclear program, which you told me and the world that you eliminated back in last summer, in June,” Carlson continued. “This war is being pushed by Israel with three aims…”

“One, its own regional hegemony. Take Iran off the map. They don’t have freedom of movement as long as Iran is a regional power.

“Two, diminishing the power of the GCC, the six Gulf states which are a rival to Israel and are becoming this kind of Switzerland of the Middle East and that’s bad for Israeli interests.”

“And three, getting the U.S. out of the Middle East because we constrain their ambitions, getting our bases out, destroying our bases. Israel wants our bases out of the Middle East. I said this to Trump to his face in the Oval Office days before the war began,” said Carlson.

“And he looked at me and said ‘Yes, you’re right. But in the end we all die anyway, so it doesn’t matter.’ That’s exactly what he said ‘In the end, we all die anyway,’ and I said to him, shocked, ‘But what about our kids and our grandkids and like our country and he goes ‘Uggggh.’”

“What does that mean?” a perplexed Inskeep asked of the bizarre, dismissive noise.

“I don’t know! That’s a verbatim exchange,” said Carlson. “And you know as God watches I said that. I thought it was true then and I think it’s been proven true now.”

“The goal was to get the U.S. out, to diminish the GCC, and obviously to take Iran off the map and sink it into permanent internal strife into civil war, sectarian strife,” said Carlson. “And he said it doesn’t matter because in the end we’re all dead anyway. And I was shocked by that because it’s nihilism and that’s the last thing any leader should display or any person should display. It does matter. Who lives or dies does matter. The future does matter.”

As horrifying as Trump’s anti-human remarks are, they are perfectly in keeping with his personality. This man is an egomaniacal sociopath. He doesn’t believe in God, doesn’t believe in the rule of law or right and wrong. As far as he’s concerned, the world ends when he dies. He couldn’t care less what happens to the rest of us.

It’s also not the first time that Trump has given the world such an unvarnished look into his nihilistic worldview. In a 2004 interview with Larry King, he shared similar sentiments—

“I try and tell myself it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. If you tell yourself it doesn’t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed,” said Trump. “Honestly, it doesn’t matter. That’s how I handle stress.”

Within this kind of moral framework (or lack thereof) Trump’s entire life makes sense. Since he believes in nothing, he has chosen to indulge in every cruelty and evil imaginable. He spent his time on this Earth ripping people off, sexually abusing and raping women, allegedly including children, and then used the powers of the White House to slaughter countless people overseas.

If the Devil exists, this is what he looks like.

I remember when Tucker Carlson was the anti christ and everything he said was a lie.

Lies or merely stupid opinions?

Both really.

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Date: 25/09/2026 10:18:24
From: dv
ID: 2433314
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 25/09/2026 10:20:32
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2433317
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



What were the other posts about?

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Date: 25/09/2026 10:24:12
From: dv
ID: 2433323
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


dv said:


What were the other posts about?

Ed Sheeran, Julian Assange etc

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Date: 25/09/2026 10:25:20
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2433326
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

dv said:


What were the other posts about?

Ed Sheeran, Julian Assange etc

Upset at Julian being a new dad?

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Date: 25/09/2026 10:28:09
From: dv
ID: 2433329
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Now he gets to play SimCity on a big scale

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Date: 25/09/2026 10:29:23
From: Cymek
ID: 2433330
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



She cowrites the Goosebump books doesn’t she

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Date: 25/09/2026 10:32:34
From: Cymek
ID: 2433331
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


dv said:

Divine Angel said:

What were the other posts about?

Ed Sheeran, Julian Assange etc

Upset at Julian being a new dad?

All the talk about Mrs Slocombe’s pussy must turn him on

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Date: 25/09/2026 10:33:05
From: dv
ID: 2433332
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


dv said:

Divine Angel said:

What were the other posts about?

Ed Sheeran, Julian Assange etc

Upset at Julian being a new dad?

No, she’s a big fan.

He’s not a “new” dad anyway. He has three other kids by three different mothers scattered about the place.

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Date: 25/09/2026 10:38:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2433335
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Looks up Jill Stein.

So that’s a bit weird.

Her whole purpose in running for the Greens was to take votes away from the Dems and help Trump?

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Date: 25/09/2026 10:43:00
From: dv
ID: 2433337
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

It’s a reminder that the Dems probably need to get to around 53 – 47 in the Senate to get anything done.

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Date: 25/09/2026 10:50:54
From: Cymek
ID: 2433340
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


It’s a reminder that the Dems probably need to get to around 53 – 47 in the Senate to get anything done.

You think that they would take this out regarding Iran.
Yeah we kinda fucked up, thought it would be a walk in the park but it wasnt

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Date: 25/09/2026 11:05:13
From: kii
ID: 2433345
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:


Looks up Jill Stein.

So that’s a bit weird.

Her whole purpose in running for the Greens was to take votes away from the Dems and help Trump?

I know a USAian who got hooked into the Stein carnival. She met her at a meet-and-greet, fangirled her really hard. Hope (the USAian) was a full blown leftist when I first met her via a feminist group on Facebook. In her small, very red, corner of the world she reached out to lots of people and had many good ideas about various stuff.

Anyway, after being “groomed” by a woman she met via a Palestinian group on FB, Hope got on board with Stein as Stein was being a strong advocate for stopping the genocide of Palestinians. The woman she was “groomed” by seemed to be a Palestinian, and iirc she met with her a few times before being taken to an event that hosted Stein.

Hope was heavily into being “educated” by Tik Tok videos about many issues, especially the war in Palestine.

I had quite a few discussions with her via Messenger and pushed back, talking about who Jill Stein has always been.

Anyway, she was going to vote for Stein, and right up to the election she was full bore with it. Then a day or two before the election Hope started to show signs of backing away from that. In the end she didn’t vote.

I expressed my frustration with her and I was pretty pissed off that she had wasted her vote.

Anyway she blocked me and another woman from the same feminist’s group as we had both been trying to talk her off the ledge with her Stein shit.

The End.

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Date: 25/09/2026 11:24:40
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2433350
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

And someone needs to assassinate Fetterman.

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Date: 25/09/2026 11:28:49
From: kii
ID: 2433354
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


And someone needs to assassinate Fetterman.

I can’t believe that I bought a t-shirt for a fundraiser for that man.

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Date: 25/09/2026 11:34:00
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2433358
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


And someone needs to assassinate Fetterman.

Get the rope Leroy.

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Date: 25/09/2026 11:34:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433360
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:


Looks up Jill Stein.

So that’s a bit weird.

Her whole purpose in running for the Greens was to take votes away from the Dems and help Trump?

I know a USAian who got hooked into the Stein carnival. She met her at a meet-and-greet, fangirled her really hard. Hope (the USAian) was a full blown leftist when I first met her via a feminist group on Facebook. In her small, very red, corner of the world she reached out to lots of people and had many good ideas about various stuff.

Anyway, after being “groomed” by a woman she met via a Palestinian group on FB, Hope got on board with Stein as Stein was being a strong advocate for stopping the genocide of Palestinians. The woman she was “groomed” by seemed to be a Palestinian, and iirc she met with her a few times before being taken to an event that hosted Stein.

Hope was heavily into being “educated” by Tik Tok videos about many issues, especially the war in Palestine.

I had quite a few discussions with her via Messenger and pushed back, talking about who Jill Stein has always been.

Anyway, she was going to vote for Stein, and right up to the election she was full bore with it. Then a day or two before the election Hope started to show signs of backing away from that. In the end she didn’t vote.

I expressed my frustration with her and I was pretty pissed off that she had wasted her vote.

Anyway she blocked me and another woman from the same feminist’s group as we had both been trying to talk her off the ledge with her Stein shit.

The End.

that’s how the great free ussa works though isn’t it, your biggest threat is your allies

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Date: 25/09/2026 11:54:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433368
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

dv said:

Ed Sheeran, Julian Assange etc

Upset at Julian being a new dad?

No, she’s a big fan.

He’s not a “new” dad anyway. He has three other kids by three different mothers scattered about the place.

so they’re all the same like the billionaire fascist fella

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Date: 25/09/2026 12:00:41
From: dv
ID: 2433370
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


And someone needs to assassinate Fetterman.

That seems a bit extreme.

I do wish we understood what happened there, though. The stroke seemed to completely change his politics.

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Date: 25/09/2026 12:04:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433372
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

And someone needs to assassinate Fetterman.

That seems a bit extreme.

I do wish we understood what happened there, though. The stroke seemed to completely change his politics.

guess team sports has to go hand in hand with mind body dualism

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Date: 25/09/2026 12:12:57
From: kii
ID: 2433377
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

And someone needs to assassinate Fetterman.

That seems a bit extreme.

I do wish we understood what happened there, though. The stroke seemed to completely change his politics.

I’ve seen theories about threats made against his wife. She is an immigrant for Central or South America…iirc. I can’t be bothered Googling.

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Date: 25/09/2026 12:13:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2433378
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

And someone needs to assassinate Fetterman.

That seems a bit extreme.

I do wish we understood what happened there, though. The stroke seemed to completely change his politics.

Brain damage causes Republicanism.

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Date: 25/09/2026 12:34:51
From: Michael V
ID: 2433388
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

And someone needs to assassinate Fetterman.

That seems a bit extreme.

I do wish we understood what happened there, though. The stroke seemed to completely change his politics.

Strokes can change personalities and ways of thinking.

My father was quite a different person after his stroke.

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Date: 25/09/2026 12:38:20
From: Michael V
ID: 2433390
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

And someone needs to assassinate Fetterman.

That seems a bit extreme.

I do wish we understood what happened there, though. The stroke seemed to completely change his politics.

Brain damage causes Republicanism.

We all know that makes sense, and explains many things…

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Date: 25/09/2026 12:45:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 2433394
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

dv said:

Ed Sheeran, Julian Assange etc

Upset at Julian being a new dad?

No, she’s a big fan.

He’s not a “new” dad anyway. He has three other kids by three different mothers scattered about the place.

Oat farmer?

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Date: 25/09/2026 12:46:09
From: kii
ID: 2433396
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

And someone needs to assassinate Fetterman.

That seems a bit extreme.

I do wish we understood what happened there, though. The stroke seemed to completely change his politics.

Brain damage causes Republicanism.

The Good Liars – Jason Selvig and Davram Stiefler. These are the guys who interview MAGAs. Brain dead meat sacks was mentioned yesterday.

Link.

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Date: 25/09/2026 13:24:20
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2433416
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Divine Angel said:

Upset at Julian being a new dad?

No, she’s a big fan.

He’s not a “new” dad anyway. He has three other kids by three different mothers scattered about the place.

Oat farmer?

It’s a matter of public record that he dislikes condoms.

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Date: 25/09/2026 14:10:08
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2433435
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

WASHINGTON – Congressman Steve Cohen (TN-9), a senior member of the Judiciary Committee and an authority on the U.S. Constitution’s impeachment provisions, today introduced 26 Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump. The articles cite multiple abuses of power, violations of his oath of office, the corrupt use of the pardon power, and emoluments clause violations, among other misconduct and unlawful acts.

https://cohen.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congressman-cohen-introduces-comprehensive-articles-impeachment-against

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Date: 25/09/2026 14:11:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433439
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


WASHINGTON – Congressman Steve Cohen (TN-9), a senior member of the Judiciary Committee and an authority on the U.S. Constitution’s impeachment provisions, today introduced 26 Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump. The articles cite multiple abuses of power, violations of his oath of office, the corrupt use of the pardon power, and emoluments clause violations, among other misconduct and unlawful acts.

https://cohen.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congressman-cohen-introduces-comprehensive-articles-impeachment-against

so he’s going to be an even more amazing survival story

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Date: 25/09/2026 14:13:06
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2433441
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


WASHINGTON – Congressman Steve Cohen (TN-9), a senior member of the Judiciary Committee and an authority on the U.S. Constitution’s impeachment provisions, today introduced 26 Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump. The articles cite multiple abuses of power, violations of his oath of office, the corrupt use of the pardon power, and emoluments clause violations, among other misconduct and unlawful acts.

https://cohen.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congressman-cohen-introduces-comprehensive-articles-impeachment-against

The 26 Articles:

ARTICLE I: UNDERMINING DEMOCRACY—SOWING DOUBT IN ELECTIONS

ARTICLE II: ABUSE OF POWER—WAGING WAR ON IRAN WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL

ARTICLE III: ABUSE OF POWER—EXTRAJUDICIAL KILLINGS IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS OF VENEZUELA

ARTICLE IV: ABUSE OF POWER—DEPLOYING MILITARY FORCES AGAINST UNITED STATES CITIES

ARTICLE V: VIOLATION OF OATH—THE BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP EXECUTIVE ORDER

ARTICLE VI: ABUSE OF POWER—CANCELING FEDERAL GRANTS TO PUNISH STATES FOR THEIR VOTES

ARTICLE VII: ABUSE OF POWER—IMPOSING LOYALTY TESTS ON THE FEDERAL WORKFORCE

ARTICLE VIII: DISREGARD OF COURTS—THE ALIEN ENEMIES ACT AND THE CASE OF KILMAR ABREGO GARCIA

ARTICLE IX: VIOLATION OF OATH—CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT AT CECOT

ARTICLE X: VIOLATION OF OATH—UNLAWFUL WITHHOLDING OF APPROPRIATED FUNDS AND DISMANTLING OF CONGRESSIONALLY ESTABLISHED PROGRAMS

ARTICLE XI: ABUSE OF POWER—OBSTRUCTING THE LAWFUL APPOINTMENT OF UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS

ARTICLE XII: ABUSE OF POWER—DEFYING COURT ORDERS IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT

ARTICLE XIII: ABOLISHING A CONGRESSIONALLY MANDATED AGENCY—THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION

ARTICLE XIV: VIOLATION OF OATH—UNLAWFUL MASS TERMINATION OF INSPECTORS GENERAL WITHOUT STATUTORY NOTICE TO CONGRESS

ARTICLE XV: UNLAWFULLY AND UNILATERALLY TAXING UNITED STATES CITIZENS THROUGH EMERGENCY POWERS TARIFFS

ARTICLE XVI: ABUSE OF POWER—POLITICAL PROSECUTIONS OF COMEY, JAMES, AND SCHIFF

ARTICLE XVII: ABUSE OF POWER—THE IRS SETTLEMENT AND THE CORRUPTION OF THE JUDGMENT FUND

ARTICLE XVIII: ABUSE OF POWER—THE CORRUPT USE OF THE PARDON POWER

ARTICLE XIX: ATTACKS ON A FREE PRESS—BANISHING REPORTERS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE FOR DISFAVORED COVERAGE

ARTICLE XX: ATTACKS ON A FREE PRESS—COERCING CBS AND ABC TO CHANGE EDITORIAL CONTENT

ARTICLE XXI: VIOLATION OF OATH—FREE SPEECH AND RETALIATORY EXECUTIVE ORDERS AGAINST LAW FIRMS

ARTICLE XXII: VIOLATION OF OATH—FREE SPEECH AND COERCING UNIVERSITIES THROUGH WITHHELD FEDERAL FUNDS

ARTICLE XXIII: ABUSE OF POWER—DEMOLISHING THE WHITE HOUSE EAST WING WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL

ARTICLE XXIV: VIOLATION OF OATH—THE ILLEGAL IMPOUNDMENT OF APPROPRIATED FUNDS

ARTICLE XXV: ABUSE OF POWER—SELF-AGGRANDIZEMENT THROUGH THE RENAMING OF PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS, SEIZURE OF CULTURAL AND CIVIC PROPERTY, AND PERSONAL APPROPRIATION OF NATIONAL CURRENCY

ARTICLE XXVI: EMOLUMENTS VIOLATIONS—PROFITING PERSONALLY AND DIRECTLY FROM THE PRESIDENCY

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Date: 25/09/2026 14:14:08
From: dv
ID: 2433442
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://youtu.be/HSk-PeptdWY?si=3l8a0GJVDSPZbmtW

Farm to Taber
A farmer discusses why farmers voted for Trump

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Date: 25/09/2026 14:16:38
From: party_pants
ID: 2433443
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Divine Angel said:

WASHINGTON – Congressman Steve Cohen (TN-9), a senior member of the Judiciary Committee and an authority on the U.S. Constitution’s impeachment provisions, today introduced 26 Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump. The articles cite multiple abuses of power, violations of his oath of office, the corrupt use of the pardon power, and emoluments clause violations, among other misconduct and unlawful acts.

https://cohen.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congressman-cohen-introduces-comprehensive-articles-impeachment-against

so he’s going to be an even more amazing survival story

Yes, I strongly advise the good Mr Cohen to saty away from windows in tall buildings.

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Date: 25/09/2026 14:16:55
From: buffy
ID: 2433444
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


WASHINGTON – Congressman Steve Cohen (TN-9), a senior member of the Judiciary Committee and an authority on the U.S. Constitution’s impeachment provisions, today introduced 26 Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump. The articles cite multiple abuses of power, violations of his oath of office, the corrupt use of the pardon power, and emoluments clause violations, among other misconduct and unlawful acts.

https://cohen.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congressman-cohen-introduces-comprehensive-articles-impeachment-against

Goodness…he might be able to boast about having the most impeachments of any president ever!

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Date: 25/09/2026 14:22:18
From: dv
ID: 2433450
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:


Looks up Jill Stein.

So that’s a bit weird.

Her whole purpose in running for the Greens was to take votes away from the Dems and help Trump?

People are what they do.

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Date: 25/09/2026 14:29:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433457
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:


Looks up Jill Stein.

So that’s a bit weird.

Her whole purpose in running for the Greens was to take votes away from the Dems and help Trump?

People are what they do.

yes yes Anthony POSIWID Stafford, we heard yous

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Date: 25/09/2026 14:44:43
From: party_pants
ID: 2433469
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

The 26 Articles:

ARTICLE I: UNDERMINING DEMOCRACY—SOWING DOUBT IN ELECTIONS

ARTICLE II: ABUSE OF POWER—WAGING WAR ON IRAN WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL

ARTICLE III: ABUSE OF POWER—EXTRAJUDICIAL KILLINGS IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS OF VENEZUELA

ARTICLE IV: ABUSE OF POWER—DEPLOYING MILITARY FORCES AGAINST UNITED STATES CITIES

ARTICLE V: VIOLATION OF OATH—THE BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP EXECUTIVE ORDER

ARTICLE VI: ABUSE OF POWER—CANCELING FEDERAL GRANTS TO PUNISH STATES FOR THEIR VOTES

ARTICLE VII: ABUSE OF POWER—IMPOSING LOYALTY TESTS ON THE FEDERAL WORKFORCE

ARTICLE VIII: DISREGARD OF COURTS—THE ALIEN ENEMIES ACT AND THE CASE OF KILMAR ABREGO GARCIA

ARTICLE IX: VIOLATION OF OATH—CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT AT CECOT

ARTICLE X: VIOLATION OF OATH—UNLAWFUL WITHHOLDING OF APPROPRIATED FUNDS AND DISMANTLING OF CONGRESSIONALLY ESTABLISHED PROGRAMS

ARTICLE XI: ABUSE OF POWER—OBSTRUCTING THE LAWFUL APPOINTMENT OF UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS

ARTICLE XII: ABUSE OF POWER—DEFYING COURT ORDERS IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT

ARTICLE XIII: ABOLISHING A CONGRESSIONALLY MANDATED AGENCY—THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION

ARTICLE XIV: VIOLATION OF OATH—UNLAWFUL MASS TERMINATION OF INSPECTORS GENERAL WITHOUT STATUTORY NOTICE TO CONGRESS

ARTICLE XV: UNLAWFULLY AND UNILATERALLY TAXING UNITED STATES CITIZENS THROUGH EMERGENCY POWERS TARIFFS

ARTICLE XVI: ABUSE OF POWER—POLITICAL PROSECUTIONS OF COMEY, JAMES, AND SCHIFF

ARTICLE XVII: ABUSE OF POWER—THE IRS SETTLEMENT AND THE CORRUPTION OF THE JUDGMENT FUND

ARTICLE XVIII: ABUSE OF POWER—THE CORRUPT USE OF THE PARDON POWER

ARTICLE XIX: ATTACKS ON A FREE PRESS—BANISHING REPORTERS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE FOR DISFAVORED COVERAGE

ARTICLE XX: ATTACKS ON A FREE PRESS—COERCING CBS AND ABC TO CHANGE EDITORIAL CONTENT

ARTICLE XXI: VIOLATION OF OATH—FREE SPEECH AND RETALIATORY EXECUTIVE ORDERS AGAINST LAW FIRMS

ARTICLE XXII: VIOLATION OF OATH—FREE SPEECH AND COERCING UNIVERSITIES THROUGH WITHHELD FEDERAL FUNDS

ARTICLE XXIII: ABUSE OF POWER—DEMOLISHING THE WHITE HOUSE EAST WING WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL

ARTICLE XXIV: VIOLATION OF OATH—THE ILLEGAL IMPOUNDMENT OF APPROPRIATED FUNDS

ARTICLE XXV: ABUSE OF POWER—SELF-AGGRANDIZEMENT THROUGH THE RENAMING OF PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS, SEIZURE OF CULTURAL AND CIVIC PROPERTY, AND PERSONAL APPROPRIATION OF NATIONAL CURRENCY

ARTICLE XXVI: EMOLUMENTS VIOLATIONS—PROFITING PERSONALLY AND DIRECTLY FROM THE PRESIDENCY

That’s a very long list and in any sensible country any single one of them would be enough to be removed from office by your party colleagues for trashing the brand.

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Date: 25/09/2026 15:03:19
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2433478
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Divine Angel said:

The 26 Articles:

ARTICLE I: UNDERMINING DEMOCRACY—SOWING DOUBT IN ELECTIONS

ARTICLE II: ABUSE OF POWER—WAGING WAR ON IRAN WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL

ARTICLE III: ABUSE OF POWER—EXTRAJUDICIAL KILLINGS IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS OF VENEZUELA

ARTICLE IV: ABUSE OF POWER—DEPLOYING MILITARY FORCES AGAINST UNITED STATES CITIES

ARTICLE V: VIOLATION OF OATH—THE BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP EXECUTIVE ORDER

ARTICLE VI: ABUSE OF POWER—CANCELING FEDERAL GRANTS TO PUNISH STATES FOR THEIR VOTES

ARTICLE VII: ABUSE OF POWER—IMPOSING LOYALTY TESTS ON THE FEDERAL WORKFORCE

ARTICLE VIII: DISREGARD OF COURTS—THE ALIEN ENEMIES ACT AND THE CASE OF KILMAR ABREGO GARCIA

ARTICLE IX: VIOLATION OF OATH—CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT AT CECOT

ARTICLE X: VIOLATION OF OATH—UNLAWFUL WITHHOLDING OF APPROPRIATED FUNDS AND DISMANTLING OF CONGRESSIONALLY ESTABLISHED PROGRAMS

ARTICLE XI: ABUSE OF POWER—OBSTRUCTING THE LAWFUL APPOINTMENT OF UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS

ARTICLE XII: ABUSE OF POWER—DEFYING COURT ORDERS IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT

ARTICLE XIII: ABOLISHING A CONGRESSIONALLY MANDATED AGENCY—THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION

ARTICLE XIV: VIOLATION OF OATH—UNLAWFUL MASS TERMINATION OF INSPECTORS GENERAL WITHOUT STATUTORY NOTICE TO CONGRESS

ARTICLE XV: UNLAWFULLY AND UNILATERALLY TAXING UNITED STATES CITIZENS THROUGH EMERGENCY POWERS TARIFFS

ARTICLE XVI: ABUSE OF POWER—POLITICAL PROSECUTIONS OF COMEY, JAMES, AND SCHIFF

ARTICLE XVII: ABUSE OF POWER—THE IRS SETTLEMENT AND THE CORRUPTION OF THE JUDGMENT FUND

ARTICLE XVIII: ABUSE OF POWER—THE CORRUPT USE OF THE PARDON POWER

ARTICLE XIX: ATTACKS ON A FREE PRESS—BANISHING REPORTERS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE FOR DISFAVORED COVERAGE

ARTICLE XX: ATTACKS ON A FREE PRESS—COERCING CBS AND ABC TO CHANGE EDITORIAL CONTENT

ARTICLE XXI: VIOLATION OF OATH—FREE SPEECH AND RETALIATORY EXECUTIVE ORDERS AGAINST LAW FIRMS

ARTICLE XXII: VIOLATION OF OATH—FREE SPEECH AND COERCING UNIVERSITIES THROUGH WITHHELD FEDERAL FUNDS

ARTICLE XXIII: ABUSE OF POWER—DEMOLISHING THE WHITE HOUSE EAST WING WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL

ARTICLE XXIV: VIOLATION OF OATH—THE ILLEGAL IMPOUNDMENT OF APPROPRIATED FUNDS

ARTICLE XXV: ABUSE OF POWER—SELF-AGGRANDIZEMENT THROUGH THE RENAMING OF PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS, SEIZURE OF CULTURAL AND CIVIC PROPERTY, AND PERSONAL APPROPRIATION OF NATIONAL CURRENCY

ARTICLE XXVI: EMOLUMENTS VIOLATIONS—PROFITING PERSONALLY AND DIRECTLY FROM THE PRESIDENCY

That’s a very long list and in any sensible country any single one of them would be enough to be removed from office by your party colleagues for trashing the brand.

Trump pardons himself after each violation.

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Date: 25/09/2026 15:04:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2433479
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


WASHINGTON – Congressman Steve Cohen (TN-9), a senior member of the Judiciary Committee and an authority on the U.S. Constitution’s impeachment provisions, today introduced 26 Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump. The articles cite multiple abuses of power, violations of his oath of office, the corrupt use of the pardon power, and emoluments clause violations, among other misconduct and unlawful acts.

https://cohen.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congressman-cohen-introduces-comprehensive-articles-impeachment-against

I wonder how that will go.

I suppose we will soon find out.

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Date: 25/09/2026 15:08:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2433480
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

On September 24, 2026, Congressman Steve Cohen introduced 26 articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump, as reported by Local Memphis.

Key Overview

Steve Cohen: Lawmaker who announced the new resolution.
Donald Trump: U.S. President named in the impeachment articles.
Timing: Filed on Thursday, September 24, 2026.

Main Accusations

Abuse of power: Using official authority for improper gains.
Violation of oath: Failing to properly uphold presidential duties.
Disregard of courts: Ignoring legal orders and judicial rulings.
Attacks on press: Working to undermine a free media.
Unlawful taxation: Imposing unauthorized financial measures.
Agency abolishment: Shutting down congressionally mandated operations.

Lawmaker Statements

Steve Cohen stated that Donald Trump is a clear danger to American democracy. Steve Cohen noted his actions follow an independent oath to defend the Constitution.

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Date: 25/09/2026 15:10:29
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2433481
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

WASHINGTON – Congressman Steve Cohen (TN-9), a senior member of the Judiciary Committee and an authority on the U.S. Constitution’s impeachment provisions, today introduced 26 Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump. The articles cite multiple abuses of power, violations of his oath of office, the corrupt use of the pardon power, and emoluments clause violations, among other misconduct and unlawful acts.

https://cohen.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congressman-cohen-introduces-comprehensive-articles-impeachment-against

I wonder how that will go.

I suppose we will soon find out.

Maybe that’s why he keeps soiling his pants?

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Date: 25/09/2026 15:14:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2433482
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

WASHINGTON – Congressman Steve Cohen (TN-9), a senior member of the Judiciary Committee and an authority on the U.S. Constitution’s impeachment provisions, today introduced 26 Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump. The articles cite multiple abuses of power, violations of his oath of office, the corrupt use of the pardon power, and emoluments clause violations, among other misconduct and unlawful acts.

https://cohen.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congressman-cohen-introduces-comprehensive-articles-impeachment-against

I wonder how that will go.

I suppose we will soon find out.

Maybe that’s why he keeps soiling his pants?

I think he buys new suit pants after soiling them.

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Date: 25/09/2026 15:16:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 2433484
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

The 26 Articles:

ARTICLE I: UNDERMINING DEMOCRACY—SOWING DOUBT IN ELECTIONS

ARTICLE II: ABUSE OF POWER—WAGING WAR ON IRAN WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL

ARTICLE III: ABUSE OF POWER—EXTRAJUDICIAL KILLINGS IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS OF VENEZUELA

ARTICLE IV: ABUSE OF POWER—DEPLOYING MILITARY FORCES AGAINST UNITED STATES CITIES

ARTICLE V: VIOLATION OF OATH—THE BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP EXECUTIVE ORDER

ARTICLE VI: ABUSE OF POWER—CANCELING FEDERAL GRANTS TO PUNISH STATES FOR THEIR VOTES

ARTICLE VII: ABUSE OF POWER—IMPOSING LOYALTY TESTS ON THE FEDERAL WORKFORCE

ARTICLE VIII: DISREGARD OF COURTS—THE ALIEN ENEMIES ACT AND THE CASE OF KILMAR ABREGO GARCIA

ARTICLE IX: VIOLATION OF OATH—CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT AT CECOT

ARTICLE X: VIOLATION OF OATH—UNLAWFUL WITHHOLDING OF APPROPRIATED FUNDS AND DISMANTLING OF CONGRESSIONALLY ESTABLISHED PROGRAMS

ARTICLE XI: ABUSE OF POWER—OBSTRUCTING THE LAWFUL APPOINTMENT OF UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS

ARTICLE XII: ABUSE OF POWER—DEFYING COURT ORDERS IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT

ARTICLE XIII: ABOLISHING A CONGRESSIONALLY MANDATED AGENCY—THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION

ARTICLE XIV: VIOLATION OF OATH—UNLAWFUL MASS TERMINATION OF INSPECTORS GENERAL WITHOUT STATUTORY NOTICE TO CONGRESS

ARTICLE XV: UNLAWFULLY AND UNILATERALLY TAXING UNITED STATES CITIZENS THROUGH EMERGENCY POWERS TARIFFS

ARTICLE XVI: ABUSE OF POWER—POLITICAL PROSECUTIONS OF COMEY, JAMES, AND SCHIFF

ARTICLE XVII: ABUSE OF POWER—THE IRS SETTLEMENT AND THE CORRUPTION OF THE JUDGMENT FUND

ARTICLE XVIII: ABUSE OF POWER—THE CORRUPT USE OF THE PARDON POWER

ARTICLE XIX: ATTACKS ON A FREE PRESS—BANISHING REPORTERS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE FOR DISFAVORED COVERAGE

ARTICLE XX: ATTACKS ON A FREE PRESS—COERCING CBS AND ABC TO CHANGE EDITORIAL CONTENT

ARTICLE XXI: VIOLATION OF OATH—FREE SPEECH AND RETALIATORY EXECUTIVE ORDERS AGAINST LAW FIRMS

ARTICLE XXII: VIOLATION OF OATH—FREE SPEECH AND COERCING UNIVERSITIES THROUGH WITHHELD FEDERAL FUNDS

ARTICLE XXIII: ABUSE OF POWER—DEMOLISHING THE WHITE HOUSE EAST WING WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL

ARTICLE XXIV: VIOLATION OF OATH—THE ILLEGAL IMPOUNDMENT OF APPROPRIATED FUNDS

ARTICLE XXV: ABUSE OF POWER—SELF-AGGRANDIZEMENT THROUGH THE RENAMING OF PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS, SEIZURE OF CULTURAL AND CIVIC PROPERTY, AND PERSONAL APPROPRIATION OF NATIONAL CURRENCY

ARTICLE XXVI: EMOLUMENTS VIOLATIONS—PROFITING PERSONALLY AND DIRECTLY FROM THE PRESIDENCY

That’s a very long list and in any sensible country any single one of them would be enough to be removed from office by your party colleagues for trashing the brand.

Trump pardons himself after each violation.

He’s free of sin and everyone should accept it.

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Date: 25/09/2026 15:28:26
From: kii
ID: 2433489
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Further to the Furry worries from Tommy Tuberville…

And here’s Tommy…

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Date: 25/09/2026 15:31:34
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2433490
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I’m always puzzled, if not astounded, when i remember that the Americas fought a war of revolution to, as they claimed, free themselves from the tyranny of a monarch.

And immediately instituted a supremo head of state with vastly more unilateral and executive power than either that monarch, or his/her Parliament, had within their remit to wield.

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Date: 25/09/2026 15:35:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 2433491
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


I’m always puzzled, if not astounded, when i remember that the Americas fought a war of revolution to, as they claimed, free themselves from the tyranny of a monarch.

And immediately instituted a supremo head of state with vastly more unilateral and executive power than either that monarch, or his/her Parliament, had within their remit to wield.

They always loved a travelling freak show. What they don’t seem to have grokked is that this one isn’t moving on to the next town.

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Date: 25/09/2026 15:35:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2433492
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Further to the Furry worries from Tommy Tuberville…

And here’s Tommy…


Must be a hot as hell in those get-ups.

At one time, you could rent Humphrey B. Bear suits, so you could have Humphrey at your kids’ event.

They came with a warning that being in the suit for more than fifteen minutes could put you at risk of exhaustion and collapse.

And i know of one event where it was hastily explained to the kiddies that Humphrey was having a lie down, and their attention was distracted to spare them the sight of Humphrey being dragged feet-first behind the shrubbery.

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Date: 25/09/2026 15:45:10
From: party_pants
ID: 2433493
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


I’m always puzzled, if not astounded, when i remember that the Americas fought a war of revolution to, as they claimed, free themselves from the tyranny of a monarch.

And immediately instituted a supremo head of state with vastly more unilateral and executive power than either that monarch, or his/her Parliament, had within their remit to wield.

To be fair, they didn’t really have many real-world examples to copy. They gave it a decent go, and it lasted 250 years. If you were starting up a new country today they would not be the ones today you would copy.

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Date: 25/09/2026 15:50:45
From: Michael V
ID: 2433494
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


I’m always puzzled, if not astounded, when i remember that the Americas fought a war of revolution to, as they claimed, free themselves from the tyranny of a monarch.

And immediately instituted a supremo head of state with vastly more unilateral and executive power than either that monarch, or his/her Parliament, had within their remit to wield.

But, but, but, they get to elect their king.

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Date: 25/09/2026 16:54:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433503
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

I’m always puzzled, if not astounded, when i remember that the Americas fought a war of revolution to, as they claimed, free themselves from the tyranny of a monarch.

And immediately instituted a supremo head of state with vastly more unilateral and executive power than either that monarch, or his/her Parliament, had within their remit to wield.

But, but, but, they get to elect their king.

and it wasn’t these fellas who fought it right

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Date: 25/09/2026 17:36:46
From: buffy
ID: 2433517
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

No-one is really looking happy in this little video

ABC news.

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Date: 26/09/2026 00:46:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433614
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

“I don’t buy stuff. I know how to be happy…I mean, you don’t really need a bunch of money now, not with the world ending,” she has said.

Ms Carroll said the money received “is going to go to everything he hates“— women’s rights, minority rights, the environment.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-26/trump-accuser-e-jean-carroll-gets-damages/107198338

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Date: 26/09/2026 06:55:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433630
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-26/what-happened-when-xi-jinping-and-donald-trump-met/107185512

can’t wait for the imp ick presidency

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Date: 26/09/2026 07:42:06
From: buffy
ID: 2433636
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-26/what-happened-when-xi-jinping-and-donald-trump-met/107185512

can’t wait for the imp ick presidency

And this photo from that ABC item is interesting.

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Date: 26/09/2026 07:46:43
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2433639
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-26/what-happened-when-xi-jinping-and-donald-trump-met/107185512

can’t wait for the imp ick presidency

And this photo from that ABC item is interesting.


Gosh I wish I remember anything from my semiotics unit.

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Date: 26/09/2026 07:59:30
From: Michael V
ID: 2433643
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-26/what-happened-when-xi-jinping-and-donald-trump-met/107185512

can’t wait for the imp ick presidency

And this photo from that ABC item is interesting.


Gosh I wish I remember anything from my semiotics unit.

There are lots of photos of Trump scowling angrily, with apparent displeasure at the camera.

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Date: 26/09/2026 08:01:46
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2433644
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

And this photo from that ABC item is interesting.


Gosh I wish I remember anything from my semiotics unit.

There are lots of photos of Trump scowling angrily, with apparent displeasure at the camera.


There are a lot of photos of toddler Mini Me scowling at the camera too. Unlike Trump, she was cute as a button half a second before I took the photo.

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Date: 26/09/2026 08:33:47
From: ms spock
ID: 2433650
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Gosh I wish I remember anything from my semiotics unit.

There are lots of photos of Trump scowling angrily, with apparent displeasure at the camera.


There are a lot of photos of toddler Mini Me scowling at the camera too. Unlike Trump, she was cute as a button half a second before I took the photo.

😂

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Date: 26/09/2026 09:04:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433656
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

we mean when you multi burst someone speaking you can get all manner of apparent but invalid expressions

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Date: 26/09/2026 09:37:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 2433662
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-26/what-happened-when-xi-jinping-and-donald-trump-met/107185512

can’t wait for the imp ick presidency

And this photo from that ABC item is interesting.


We can tell that things are going well … for Xi. Trump didn’t see a win here.

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Date: 26/09/2026 09:57:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2433668
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-26/what-happened-when-xi-jinping-and-donald-trump-met/107185512

can’t wait for the imp ick presidency

And this photo from that ABC item is interesting.


And he has emptied his glass and filled his plate again, it’s not one of those Chinese all you can eat places Donald.

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Date: 26/09/2026 09:58:10
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2433670
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-26/what-happened-when-xi-jinping-and-donald-trump-met/107185512

can’t wait for the imp ick presidency

And this photo from that ABC item is interesting.



And he has emptied his glass and filled his plate again, it’s not one of those Chinese all you can eat places Donald.

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Date: 26/09/2026 10:01:52
From: Michael V
ID: 2433671
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

we mean when you multi burst someone speaking you can get all manner of apparent but invalid expressions

Fair call.

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Date: 26/09/2026 14:25:01
From: dv
ID: 2433770
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/united-nations-us-politics-live-updates/live-coverage/e2dfdca22586c7f47e0c17825b52034a

“In the end, we’re all dead anyway.”

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Date: 26/09/2026 14:47:20
From: Michael V
ID: 2433775
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/united-nations-us-politics-live-updates/live-coverage/e2dfdca22586c7f47e0c17825b52034a

“In the end, we’re all dead anyway.”

Yeah, it’s a pretty awful way of summarising and justifying one’s actions.

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Date: 26/09/2026 14:54:27
From: Neophyte
ID: 2433778
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/united-nations-us-politics-live-updates/live-coverage/e2dfdca22586c7f47e0c17825b52034a

“In the end, we’re all dead anyway.”

The problem is that he likely wants to take everyone with him…

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Date: 26/09/2026 14:59:31
From: Michael V
ID: 2433781
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


dv said:

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/united-nations-us-politics-live-updates/live-coverage/e2dfdca22586c7f47e0c17825b52034a

“In the end, we’re all dead anyway.”

The problem is that he likely wants to take everyone with him…

Or, (which I consider more likely” doesn’t care if he takes everyone with him.

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Date: 26/09/2026 19:55:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 2433907
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 26/09/2026 19:57:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 2433909
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:



The news organisation was replaced by Real America’s Voice.

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Date: 26/09/2026 20:00:07
From: party_pants
ID: 2433912
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:



you know, CNN can really make this backfire on Trump. Just start publishing all the opposition commentary about him and end with a comment about the Whitehouse not being available to answer any questions to CNN. Until he begs them to return and start reporting on him again.

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Date: 26/09/2026 20:00:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 2433913
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:


you know, CNN can really make this backfire on Trump. Just start publishing all the opposition commentary about him and end with a comment about the Whitehouse not being available to answer any questions to CNN. Until he begs them to return and start reporting on him again.

But will they try that?

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Date: 26/09/2026 20:04:59
From: party_pants
ID: 2433915
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

roughbarked said:


you know, CNN can really make this backfire on Trump. Just start publishing all the opposition commentary about him and end with a comment about the Whitehouse not being available to answer any questions to CNN. Until he begs them to return and start reporting on him again.

But will they try that?

They probably won’t dare to.

I give USAlia until about January before it descends into civil war, at the current rate.

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Date: 26/09/2026 21:41:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2433935
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:

I give USAlia until about January before it descends into civil war, at the current rate.

Of course, the big hope is that the Democrats win control of both the House and the Senate in November. That would render the Republicans powerless, isolate Trump, hopefully provide some active opposition to his lunacy, and, with the threat of impeachment, stifle his impulsive autocracy somewhat.

But, then, far too much has been expected of the sagacity of the American electorate in the past decade to encourage that hope.

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Date: 26/09/2026 21:47:19
From: party_pants
ID: 2433940
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

I give USAlia until about January before it descends into civil war, at the current rate.

Of course, the big hope is that the Democrats win control of both the House and the Senate in November. That would render the Republicans powerless, isolate Trump, hopefully provide some active opposition to his lunacy, and, with the threat of impeachment, stifle his impulsive autocracy somewhat.

But, then, far too much has been expected of the sagacity of the American electorate in the past decade to encourage that hope.

I think that if that electoral result eventuates, it will not be accepted peacefully by Trump and his followers. We saw what happened on Jan 6 a few years ago. This may well be worse. If the integrity of the election process is rejected, there is nothing else but violence to carry the day.

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Date: 26/09/2026 21:51:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2433941
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:

I think that if that electoral result eventuates, it will not be accepted peacefully by Trump and his followers. We saw what happened on Jan 6 a few years ago. This may well be worse. If the integrity of the election process is rejected, there is nothing else but violence to carry the day.

If so, then so be it.

The members of the US military all took an oath to defend the US Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, not the US President.

If Joe Maga and his semi-auto AR-15 knock-off want to go up against the military, then, have at it. If it must be so, then get it over with.

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Date: 26/09/2026 21:57:22
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2433943
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

I think that if that electoral result eventuates, it will not be accepted peacefully by Trump and his followers. We saw what happened on Jan 6 a few years ago. This may well be worse. If the integrity of the election process is rejected, there is nothing else but violence to carry the day.

If so, then so be it.

The members of the US military all took an oath to defend the US Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, not the US President.

If Joe Maga and his semi-auto AR-15 knock-off want to go up against the military, then, have at it. If it must be so, then get it over with.

This demonstrates that quite well.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nqOSIxQMZz4

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Date: 26/09/2026 22:00:31
From: party_pants
ID: 2433944
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

I think that if that electoral result eventuates, it will not be accepted peacefully by Trump and his followers. We saw what happened on Jan 6 a few years ago. This may well be worse. If the integrity of the election process is rejected, there is nothing else but violence to carry the day.

If so, then so be it.

The members of the US military all took an oath to defend the US Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, not the US President.

If Joe Maga and his semi-auto AR-15 knock-off want to go up against the military, then, have at it. If it must be so, then get it over with.

IMO, this is what ICE is for. The immigration stuff is just the training scenario.

The PITUS is still the legal head of the armed forces. There will be no orders for them to intervene on the side of the law and the constitution. Any such intervention by the military to uphold those principles will require an overt mutiny, They will likely be too slow to react.

As for Joe MAGA, they know they will be likely be pardoned for all their sins.

The only way out of it is for Trump to die of old age.

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Date: 26/09/2026 22:10:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2433946
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:

IMO, this is what ICE is for. The immigration stuff is just the training scenario.

The PITUS is still the legal head of the armed forces. There will be no orders for them to intervene on the side of the law and the constitution. Any such intervention by the military to uphold those principles will require an overt mutiny, They will likely be too slow to react.

As for Joe MAGA, they know they will be likely be pardoned for all their sins.

The only way out of it is for Trump to die of old age.

I think that you underestimate the US military brass.

They’re not all idiots, and there’d be plenty of them who are dedicated to the idea of defending their Constitution, and i think that it would be something of an insult to think that they hadn’t considered the possibility of a Commander-in-Chief who orders them to deny that oath, and to think that they don’t have a plan for a rapid response to orders to do so.

It may be a very confidential plan, and known only to the people who are key to it, but i can readily conceive of its existence.

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Date: 26/09/2026 22:16:11
From: party_pants
ID: 2433947
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

IMO, this is what ICE is for. The immigration stuff is just the training scenario.

The PITUS is still the legal head of the armed forces. There will be no orders for them to intervene on the side of the law and the constitution. Any such intervention by the military to uphold those principles will require an overt mutiny, They will likely be too slow to react.

As for Joe MAGA, they know they will be likely be pardoned for all their sins.

The only way out of it is for Trump to die of old age.

I think that you underestimate the US military brass.

They’re not all idiots, and there’d be plenty of them who are dedicated to the idea of defending their Constitution, and i think that it would be something of an insult to think that they hadn’t considered the possibility of a Commander-in-Chief who orders them to deny that oath, and to think that they don’t have a plan for a rapid response to orders to do so.

It may be a very confidential plan, and known only to the people who are key to it, but i can readily conceive of its existence.

I hope you are right about this.

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Date: 26/09/2026 22:19:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2433948
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

IMO, this is what ICE is for. The immigration stuff is just the training scenario.

The PITUS is still the legal head of the armed forces. There will be no orders for them to intervene on the side of the law and the constitution. Any such intervention by the military to uphold those principles will require an overt mutiny, They will likely be too slow to react.

As for Joe MAGA, they know they will be likely be pardoned for all their sins.

The only way out of it is for Trump to die of old age.

I think that you underestimate the US military brass.

They’re not all idiots, and there’d be plenty of them who are dedicated to the idea of defending their Constitution, and i think that it would be something of an insult to think that they hadn’t considered the possibility of a Commander-in-Chief who orders them to deny that oath, and to think that they don’t have a plan for a rapid response to orders to do so.

It may be a very confidential plan, and known only to the people who are key to it, but i can readily conceive of its existence.

I hope you are right about this.

So do i.

We can only trust in the sense of responsibility that comes with high command (with ‘certain’ notable exceptions), the loyalty of the relevant people to the oath they took, and their understanding of their obligation and right to disobey illegal orders.

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Date: 26/09/2026 22:28:01
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2433949
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

IMO, this is what ICE is for. The immigration stuff is just the training scenario.

The PITUS is still the legal head of the armed forces. There will be no orders for them to intervene on the side of the law and the constitution. Any such intervention by the military to uphold those principles will require an overt mutiny, They will likely be too slow to react.

As for Joe MAGA, they know they will be likely be pardoned for all their sins.

The only way out of it is for Trump to die of old age.

I think that you underestimate the US military brass.

They’re not all idiots, and there’d be plenty of them who are dedicated to the idea of defending their Constitution, and i think that it would be something of an insult to think that they hadn’t considered the possibility of a Commander-in-Chief who orders them to deny that oath, and to think that they don’t have a plan for a rapid response to orders to do so.

It may be a very confidential plan, and known only to the people who are key to it, but i can readily conceive of its existence.

I can’t imagine them letting him press the big red button to start WW3. At least without a big (physical?) fight.

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Date: 26/09/2026 23:07:15
From: ms spock
ID: 2433951
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Donna Ganger, the mother of Renee Nicole Good, spoke at a Capitol Hill forum about her daughter’s death after an ICE shooting in Minneapolis. Ganger also revealed that she had voted for President Donald Trump, saying she believed immigration agents would protect Americans.

Link

From 2 minutes to 4 minutes

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Date: 27/09/2026 00:17:01
From: kii
ID: 2433954
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

From Jim Wright aka Stonekettle Station.

“As predicted.

Trump has rejected peace in favor of more war at some future date to be announced later.

After the election. Naturally.

Somehow this military genius, this self-described superior intellect with the great genes who knew more than the stupid fat generals with the low-T, who promised us he could end all the wars on day one, somehow this guy has got us into another endless war that we can’t afford to lose but somehow can’t win either, a war that is yet again a matter of grave national security and costs us the lives of our best but also somehow can just wait until after the president finishes his weekend round of golf and also an election.

Funny, how he always makes these decisions about an hour after the market closes on Friday, isn’t it?”

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Date: 27/09/2026 02:42:26
From: dv
ID: 2433956
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

What

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Date: 27/09/2026 05:01:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2433958
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


What

Yes?

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Date: 27/09/2026 08:36:10
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2433965
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


What

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Date: 27/09/2026 08:39:03
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2433966
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


dv said:

What


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Date: 27/09/2026 09:02:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2433972
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


dv said:

What


Things are so bad in Russia these days, three guys have to wear the same suit at the same time.

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Date: 27/09/2026 10:06:01
From: dv
ID: 2433981
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


JudgeMental said:

dv said:

What



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Date: 27/09/2026 10:10:52
From: dv
ID: 2433983
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

There’s been a lot discourse on why Gen-X is so supportive of Trump but these 8 year cohorts give more granular information.
There’s a big break between the 1965-1972 cohort and the 1973-1980 cohort.

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Date: 27/09/2026 10:26:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 2433986
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Robert De Niro I want my country back

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Date: 27/09/2026 10:38:33
From: dv
ID: 2433994
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 27/09/2026 10:40:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433996
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


so democrats get points for trying but even when fascists succeed people still fling shit at them

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Date: 27/09/2026 10:49:31
From: dv
ID: 2434005
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 27/09/2026 10:54:09
From: kii
ID: 2434008
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



LOLOL…..snort

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Date: 27/09/2026 10:55:34
From: Michael V
ID: 2434009
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


There’s been a lot discourse on why Gen-X is so supportive of Trump but these 8 year cohorts give more granular information.
There’s a big break between the 1965-1972 cohort and the 1973-1980 cohort.

65-72 ——> “Greed is good”, “He who dies with the most toys wins” generation of young adults. The “Yuppies”.

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Date: 27/09/2026 10:55:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2434010
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


why not, it’s not like life is sacred and must be protected at all costs up to the moment of parturition and then it’s a distant last up against freedom

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Date: 27/09/2026 10:58:44
From: Michael V
ID: 2434014
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Date: 27/09/2026 10:59:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2434015
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

dv said:

There’s been a lot discourse on why Gen-X is so supportive of Trump but these 8 year cohorts give more granular information.
There’s a big break between the 1965-1972 cohort and the 1973-1980 cohort.

65-72 ——> “Greed is good”, “He who dies with the most toys wins” generation of young adults. The “Yuppies”.

so americese are just a bunch of drones being mind controlled by the flashiest motion pictures of their times

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Date: 27/09/2026 11:00:43
From: Michael V
ID: 2434017
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



LOLz

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Date: 27/09/2026 11:08:19
From: Michael V
ID: 2434020
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

I think that if that electoral result eventuates, it will not be accepted peacefully by Trump and his followers. We saw what happened on Jan 6 a few years ago. This may well be worse. If the integrity of the election process is rejected, there is nothing else but violence to carry the day.

If so, then so be it.

The members of the US military all took an oath to defend the US Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, not the US President.

If Joe Maga and his semi-auto AR-15 knock-off want to go up against the military, then, have at it. If it must be so, then get it over with.

This demonstrates that quite well.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nqOSIxQMZz4

LOL.

Brilliant!

:)

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Date: 27/09/2026 11:08:46
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2434021
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


What

I think he has a preference for big suits.

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Date: 27/09/2026 11:14:21
From: kii
ID: 2434024
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


dv said:


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

And it’s another lolol…snort from me

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Date: 27/09/2026 11:16:09
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2434026
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


There’s been a lot discourse on why Gen-X is so supportive of Trump but these 8 year cohorts give more granular information.
There’s a big break between the 1965-1972 cohort and the 1973-1980 cohort.

QI.

Rather destroys the idea that everyone within a given “generation” thinks the same.

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Date: 27/09/2026 11:21:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 2434031
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:

What

I think he has a preference for big suits.

Hopefully soon, they’ll be lawsuits.

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Date: 27/09/2026 11:54:39
From: ms spock
ID: 2434045
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

I give USAlia until about January before it descends into civil war, at the current rate.

Of course, the big hope is that the Democrats win control of both the House and the Senate in November. That would render the Republicans powerless, isolate Trump, hopefully provide some active opposition to his lunacy, and, with the threat of impeachment, stifle his impulsive autocracy somewhat.

But, then, far too much has been expected of the sagacity of the American electorate in the past decade to encourage that hope.

I think that if that electoral result eventuates, it will not be accepted peacefully by Trump and his followers. We saw what happened on Jan 6 a few years ago. This may well be worse. If the integrity of the election process is rejected, there is nothing else but violence to carry the day.

Not happy days.

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Date: 27/09/2026 15:50:13
From: dv
ID: 2434107
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2026092501015/japan-confused-by-trump-calling-china-wwii-ally.html

DJT doesn’t get much right but he’s quite reasonable in calling China a WW2 ally.

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Date: 27/09/2026 16:01:27
From: party_pants
ID: 2434117
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2026092501015/japan-confused-by-trump-calling-china-wwii-ally.html

DJT doesn’t get much right but he’s quite reasonable in calling China a WW2 ally.

bit of a stretch to call the People’s Republic an ally before they existed IMHO.

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Date: 27/09/2026 16:12:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2434122
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:

dv said:

https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2026092501015/japan-confused-by-trump-calling-china-wwii-ally.html

DJT doesn’t get much right but he’s quite reasonable in calling China a WW2 ally.

bit of a stretch to call the People’s Republic an ally before they existed IMHO.

have Germany ever admitted their role in an alleged genocide during a WW2 in which China were an usa ally

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Date: 27/09/2026 16:29:53
From: dv
ID: 2434127
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


dv said:

https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2026092501015/japan-confused-by-trump-calling-china-wwii-ally.html

DJT doesn’t get much right but he’s quite reasonable in calling China a WW2 ally.

bit of a stretch to call the People’s Republic an ally before they existed IMHO.

Well what he said was

“If we focus on our common interests, I’m confident there is much we can achieve. Throughout history, pursuit of those common interests has connected our people across the vast oceans as those big, tremendous distances and many differences, and even made US allies in World War II. Look at the greatness that we had together fighting in World War II. Brave American pilots volunteered to come to China and fight for the very survival of the legendary country and that legendary Flying Tigers group.”

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Date: 27/09/2026 16:30:09
From: dv
ID: 2434128
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Meanwhile

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Date: 27/09/2026 16:32:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 2434129
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Meanwhile

I’ll bet that he gets free burgers and coke for that.

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Date: 27/09/2026 16:41:18
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2434130
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Meanwhile

I’ll bet that he gets free burgers and coke for that.

For life?

For a year?

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Date: 27/09/2026 16:45:49
From: dv
ID: 2434133
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.threads.com/share/_iWt2Cqvu/

Meanwhile

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Date: 27/09/2026 16:56:00
From: Neophyte
ID: 2434136
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

Meanwhile

I’ll bet that he gets free burgers and coke for that.

For life?

For a year?

He’ll replace Ronald MacDonald

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Date: 27/09/2026 16:57:44
From: party_pants
ID: 2434137
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

Meanwhile

I’ll bet that he gets free burgers and coke for that.

For life?

For a year?

With any luck they might be pretty similar.

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Date: 27/09/2026 17:00:50
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2434139
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

Meanwhile

I’ll bet that he gets free burgers and coke for that.

For life?

For a year?

I’m hoping that the two time periods are equal.

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Date: 27/09/2026 17:09:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2434146
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

Neophyte said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

I’ll bet that he gets free burgers and coke for that.

For life?

For a year?

He’ll replace Ronald MacDonald

With any luck they might be pretty similar.

I’m hoping that the two time periods are equal.

on mercury

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Date: 28/09/2026 10:17:12
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2434256
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Dems have further extended their lead in the generic poll and are now out by more than 9 points over the GOP

The probability of the Dems controlling Congress now sits at almost 69% for the Senate and more than 90% in the House.

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Date: 29/09/2026 00:37:09
From: Kingy
ID: 2434488
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kash-patel-defends-new-fbi-policy-bestiality-senate-hearing-rcna598017

Kash Patel defends FBI’s new policy on bestiality at Senate hearing
Sen. John Kennedy grilled the FBI director about a recently revised policy that doesn’t automatically disqualify job applicants who have engaged in bestiality

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Date: 29/09/2026 12:59:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2434597
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

such a rich and complex melting pot of a country

A New York Times tech executive who was allegedly shot dead by his elderly in-laws in California was in a vicious war with them and his estranged wife for being transgender, according to court documents. Jonathan McKinsey’s wife, Candice Jang, filed for a restraining order against him in 2025, and he replied by filing a restraining order of his own. McKinsey claimed Jang had tried to pull medical tubes out of his body when he was transitioning from a woman to a man in 2010, the restraining order records, obtained by The Mercury News, said. The two married in 2011.

First responders attempted to save McKinsey, but he died at the scene. Witnesses reported seeing two masked assailants approach him in a parking lot. They said the shooters took turns unloading bullets into the victim before they were quickly arrested by a passing cop. While the elderly couple is from the Dublin area, they also have ties to Albuquerque, New Mexico, The Post had learned. Zhang and Chen were booked into Alameda County’s Santa Rita Jail on suspicion of murder. McKinsey had been married to their daughter Candice Jang, the Post can reveal.

The killing happened amid a contentious, monthslong divorce between the victim, 40-year-old Jonathan McKinsey, and his wife, who had filed for a domestic violence prevention order against him almost a year ago, court records show. McKinsey, a head engineer at the New York Times, was also facing a criminal child abuse case. But investigators had shared no details about a possible motive for the crime as of Monday afternoon.

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Date: 29/09/2026 16:19:26
From: dv
ID: 2434673
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Terrible though all aspects of this Cornell case are, the thing that has surprised me most is that, in New York State, heavily intoxicated people are considered able to consent to sex as long as they voluntarily got intoxicated.
In Australia and much of the US, heavily intoxicated people are considered unable to give consent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/nyregion/new-york-rape-laws.html

Attempts to correct this defect in the law have not managed to get past New York State Assembly.

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Date: 29/09/2026 16:30:05
From: Cymek
ID: 2434674
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Terrible though all aspects of this Cornell case are, the thing that has surprised me most is that, in New York State, heavily intoxicated people are considered able to consent to sex as long as they voluntarily got intoxicated.
In Australia and much of the US, heavily intoxicated people are considered unable to give consent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/nyregion/new-york-rape-laws.html

Attempts to correct this defect in the law have not managed to get past New York State Assembly.

1980’s US sitcom calling
It also shows the morality of people.
If you are the sober one, decency tells you its wrong

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Date: 29/09/2026 16:47:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2434676
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Terrible though all aspects of this Cornell case are, the thing that has surprised me most is that, in New York State, heavily intoxicated people are considered able to consent to sex as long as they voluntarily got intoxicated.
In Australia and much of the US, heavily intoxicated people are considered unable to give consent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/nyregion/new-york-rape-laws.html

Attempts to correct this defect in the law have not managed to get past New York State Assembly.

Let’s see the members if the New York State Assembly get voluntarily heavily drunk…

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Date: 29/09/2026 16:56:12
From: kii
ID: 2434678
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Terrible though all aspects of this Cornell case are, the thing that has surprised me most is that, in New York State, heavily intoxicated people are considered able to consent to sex as long as they voluntarily got intoxicated.
In Australia and much of the US, heavily intoxicated people are considered unable to give consent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/nyregion/new-york-rape-laws.html

Attempts to correct this defect in the law have not managed to get past New York State Assembly.

Lots of witches are now hexing the rapists. I’ve seen 2 posts on Facebook showing how to do it.
I love this stuff.

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Date: 29/09/2026 17:01:21
From: Michael V
ID: 2434683
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Terrible though all aspects of this Cornell case are, the thing that has surprised me most is that, in New York State, heavily intoxicated people are considered able to consent to sex as long as they voluntarily got intoxicated.
In Australia and much of the US, heavily intoxicated people are considered unable to give consent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/nyregion/new-york-rape-laws.html

Attempts to correct this defect in the law have not managed to get past New York State Assembly.

Huh!

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Date: 29/09/2026 17:04:53
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2434684
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


dv said:

Terrible though all aspects of this Cornell case are, the thing that has surprised me most is that, in New York State, heavily intoxicated people are considered able to consent to sex as long as they voluntarily got intoxicated.
In Australia and much of the US, heavily intoxicated people are considered unable to give consent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/nyregion/new-york-rape-laws.html

Attempts to correct this defect in the law have not managed to get past New York State Assembly.

1980’s US sitcom calling
It also shows the morality of people.
If you are the sober one, decency tells you its wrong

New York is where Donald Trump comes from.

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Date: 29/09/2026 17:44:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2434694
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

Terrible though all aspects of this Cornell case are, the thing that has surprised me most is that, in New York State, heavily intoxicated people are considered able to consent to sex as long as they voluntarily got intoxicated.
In Australia and much of the US, heavily intoxicated people are considered unable to give consent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/nyregion/new-york-rape-laws.html

Attempts to correct this defect in the law have not managed to get past New York State Assembly.

1980’s US sitcom calling
It also shows the morality of people.
If you are the sober one, decency tells you its wrong

New York is where Donald Trump comes from.

I cannot see Trump’s name but George Santos is in the list.

Criminals from New York City

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Date: 29/09/2026 18:08:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2434707
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-29/utah-man-released-on-bail-after-40-years-on-death-row/107206618

Bruddy eck!

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Date: 29/09/2026 18:11:34
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2434708
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-29/utah-man-released-on-bail-after-40-years-on-death-row/107206618

Bruddy eck!

Sorry about that, pal.

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Date: 29/09/2026 18:20:04
From: Michael V
ID: 2434711
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-29/utah-man-released-on-bail-after-40-years-on-death-row/107206618

Bruddy eck!

Sorry about that, pal.

Yeah. It’s bloody awful. 41 years sitting locked up in a jail cell knowing the only way out is via the electric chair or whatever other awful mechanism they use for State Murder. And not guilty all the time. Pharque.

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Date: 29/09/2026 23:01:42
From: dv
ID: 2434786
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5wyzrm0n74ro

Cornell case reopened

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Date: 30/09/2026 08:38:23
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2434835
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I see the senate inquiry with Jack Smith was all fun and games.

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Date: 30/09/2026 09:52:44
From: dv
ID: 2434869
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:


I see the senate inquiry with Jack Smith was all fun and games.

I almost felt bad for the Republicans. They do deserve better representation than this but I suppose ya get what ya votes for.

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Date: 30/09/2026 10:10:11
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2434873
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:


I see the senate inquiry with Jack Smith was all fun and games.

Jack Smith is a fucking assassin; try as they might, I can’t see them catching him in some comedic gotcha

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Date: 30/09/2026 10:13:41
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2434875
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

in any case, this seems like a crazy thing to be re-litigating 40 days out from an election

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Date: 30/09/2026 10:50:01
From: Michael V
ID: 2434879
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Bogsnorkler said:

I see the senate inquiry with Jack Smith was all fun and games.

Jack Smith is a fucking assassin; try as they might, I can’t see them catching him in some comedic gotcha

If he is an assassin why don’t they lock him up?

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Date: 30/09/2026 11:52:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2434903
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Jeff Tiedrich remarked in his column about Trump having never paid a cent of all of the ‘dividends’ he promised to US citizens, and how they’re not getting the $5,000 vote bribe, either.

If Trump coughs up all of the various ‘dividends’ he’s promised, then he has to pay every adult citizen US$13,000.

That would amount to $3.2 trillion.

Now, it could be done.

But, it would mean ABSOLUTELY NO MONEY for Social Security and Medicare and Defence for a year. Not a penny.

OK, spread it out over a few years. Still means massive, really massive, cutbacks in every aspect of the government for years on end. And, how do you tell some parts of the community that they have to wait years for the payments that the people in the next city got this week?

Yet, i’m sure that there’s a large chunk of the US electorate who believe it will happen.

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Date: 30/09/2026 12:01:34
From: Michael V
ID: 2434908
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Jeff Tiedrich remarked in his column about Trump having never paid a cent of all of the ‘dividends’ he promised to US citizens, and how they’re not getting the $5,000 vote bribe, either.

If Trump coughs up all of the various ‘dividends’ he’s promised, then he has to pay every adult citizen US$13,000.

That would amount to $3.2 trillion.

Now, it could be done.

But, it would mean ABSOLUTELY NO MONEY for Social Security and Medicare and Defence for a year. Not a penny.

OK, spread it out over a few years. Still means massive, really massive, cutbacks in every aspect of the government for years on end. And, how do you tell some parts of the community that they have to wait years for the payments that the people in the next city got this week?

Yet, i’m sure that there’s a large chunk of the US electorate who believe it will happen.

Cults, tribes, beliefs, etc.

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Date: 30/09/2026 13:04:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2434930
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

Jeff Tiedrich remarked in his column about Trump having never paid a cent of all of the ‘dividends’ he promised to US citizens, and how they’re not getting the $5,000 vote bribe, either.

If Trump coughs up all of the various ‘dividends’ he’s promised, then he has to pay every adult citizen US$13,000.

That would amount to $3.2 trillion.

Now, it could be done.

But, it would mean ABSOLUTELY NO MONEY for Social Security and Medicare and Defence for a year. Not a penny.

OK, spread it out over a few years. Still means massive, really massive, cutbacks in every aspect of the government for years on end. And, how do you tell some parts of the community that they have to wait years for the payments that the people in the next city got this week?

Yet, i’m sure that there’s a large chunk of the US electorate who believe it will happen.

what, aren’t countries able to manipulate currencies to low exchange rates

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Date: 30/09/2026 14:10:03
From: dv
ID: 2434974
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:

in any case, this seems like a crazy thing to be re-litigating 40 days out from an election

Basically reminding everyone that DJT is a convicted felon who should already be in prison.

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Date: 30/09/2026 14:10:56
From: dv
ID: 2434975
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 30/09/2026 14:25:55
From: dv
ID: 2434980
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 30/09/2026 14:29:25
From: kii
ID: 2434981
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



There is a theory that he is wearing a contraption to assist him with walking.

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Date: 30/09/2026 14:30:45
From: dv
ID: 2434982
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:


There is a theory that he is wearing a contraption to assist him with walking.

He looks like a fkn cartoon character

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Date: 30/09/2026 14:32:39
From: kii
ID: 2434983
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


kii said:

dv said:


There is a theory that he is wearing a contraption to assist him with walking.

He looks like a fkn cartoon character

He always has.

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Date: 30/09/2026 14:39:57
From: Cymek
ID: 2434986
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:

kii said:

There is a theory that he is wearing a contraption to assist him with walking.

He looks like a fkn cartoon character

He always has.

He’s kept alive and walking by various gears, pulleys and electric shocks.

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Date: 30/09/2026 14:47:59
From: Ian
ID: 2434989
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

There is a theory that he is wearing a contraption to assist him with walking.

That’s his exoskeleton

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Date: 30/09/2026 14:56:12
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2434991
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


kii said:

dv said:

He looks like a fkn cartoon character

He always has.

He’s kept alive and walking by various gears, pulleys and electric shocks.

He’s wearing The Wrong Trousers!

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Date: 30/09/2026 15:06:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2434992
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Fair comment.

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Date: 30/09/2026 15:27:58
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2434993
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:


Cymek said:

kii said:

He always has.

He’s kept alive and walking by various gears, pulleys and electric shocks.

He’s wearing The Wrong Trousers!

https://archive.org/details/wallace-gromit-s-01-e-02-the-wrong-trousers

Link

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Date: 30/09/2026 17:38:18
From: Ian
ID: 2435005
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Cymek said:

He’s kept alive and walking by various gears, pulleys and electric shocks.

He’s wearing The Wrong Trousers!

https://archive.org/details/wallace-gromit-s-01-e-02-the-wrong-trousers

Link

Bloody penguins

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Date: 30/09/2026 19:08:30
From: dv
ID: 2435033
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 30/09/2026 19:18:23
From: kii
ID: 2435036
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Delivered by the POTUS in an ornate carriage bedecked in gold and flying 5 US flags. A procession of dancing cowboys will lead the carriage to your door as YMCA is played by a marching band wearing tutus and feathered headdresses.

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Date: 30/09/2026 19:22:51
From: ms spock
ID: 2435040
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:


Delivered by the POTUS in an ornate carriage bedecked in gold and flying 5 US flags. A procession of dancing cowboys will lead the carriage to your door as YMCA is played by a marching band wearing tutus and feathered headdresses.

Don’t forget the all important rhinestones.

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Date: 30/09/2026 20:32:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435055
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


kii said:

dv said:


Delivered by the POTUS in an ornate carriage bedecked in gold and flying 5 US flags. A procession of dancing cowboys will lead the carriage to your door as YMCA is played by a marching band wearing tutus and feathered headdresses.

Don’t forget the all important rhinestones.

It’s Trump.

So, you can be sure that it’ll be ‘gold’, cheap, and tacky.

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Date: 30/09/2026 20:33:38
From: dv
ID: 2435057
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

rofl

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Date: 30/09/2026 20:39:58
From: ms spock
ID: 2435059
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


ms spock said:

kii said:

Delivered by the POTUS in an ornate carriage bedecked in gold and flying 5 US flags. A procession of dancing cowboys will lead the carriage to your door as YMCA is played by a marching band wearing tutus and feathered headdresses.

Don’t forget the all important rhinestones.

It’s Trump.

So, you can be sure that it’ll be ‘gold’, cheap, and tacky.

:(

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Date: 30/09/2026 20:59:44
From: dv
ID: 2435063
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 30/09/2026 21:05:48
From: kii
ID: 2435064
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



WTF is wrong with Greg Brockman?

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Date: 30/09/2026 21:11:40
From: party_pants
ID: 2435065
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:


WTF is wrong with Greg Brockman?

His mother didn’t love him enough.

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Date: 30/09/2026 23:38:42
From: dv
ID: 2435076
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.semafor.com/article/09/29/2026/decline-in-tourism-hits-us-economy

Overseas visitors to the US are on track to drop by almost two million year-on-year, with even the FIFA Men’s World Cup failing to arrest the decline in tourism.

The slide is hurting the US economy, and as Axios put it, is partly “self-inflicted:” There has been a significant drop in visitors from US allies like Canada and several European countries, which have been a target of Washington’s trade war and taunts.

Meanwhile, China is attracting more visitors with its visa-free entry policies, and Japan’s weak currency is drawing in a record number of tourists.

“We’re the only major country in the world losing visitation,” the head of the US Travel Association said. “It’s mind-boggling.”

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Date: 1/10/2026 05:09:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2435088
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

https://www.semafor.com/article/09/29/2026/decline-in-tourism-hits-us-economy

Overseas visitors to the US are on track to drop by almost two million year-on-year, with even the FIFA Men’s World Cup failing to arrest the decline in tourism.

The slide is hurting the US economy, and as Axios put it, is partly “self-inflicted:” There has been a significant drop in visitors from US allies like Canada and several European countries, which have been a target of Washington’s trade war and taunts.

Meanwhile, China is attracting more visitors with its visa-free entry policies, and Japan’s weak currency is drawing in a record number of tourists.

“We’re the only major country in the world losing visitation,” the head of the US Travel Association said. “It’s mind-boggling.”

nobody could have foreseen this

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Date: 1/10/2026 05:18:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2435091
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:

kii said:

dv said:


WTF is wrong with Greg Brockman?

His mother didn’t love him enough.

this document reminds us of LotR for some reason

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Date: 1/10/2026 06:51:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2435099
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.semafor.com/article/09/29/2026/decline-in-tourism-hits-us-economy

Overseas visitors to the US are on track to drop by almost two million year-on-year, with even the FIFA Men’s World Cup failing to arrest the decline in tourism.

The slide is hurting the US economy, and as Axios put it, is partly “self-inflicted:” There has been a significant drop in visitors from US allies like Canada and several European countries, which have been a target of Washington’s trade war and taunts.

Meanwhile, China is attracting more visitors with its visa-free entry policies, and Japan’s weak currency is drawing in a record number of tourists.

“We’re the only major country in the world losing visitation,” the head of the US Travel Association said. “It’s mind-boggling.”

partly “self-inflicted” ???
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Date: 1/10/2026 06:59:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2435100
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

https://www.semafor.com/article/09/29/2026/decline-in-tourism-hits-us-economy

Overseas visitors to the US are on track to drop by almost two million year-on-year, with even the FIFA Men’s World Cup failing to arrest the decline in tourism.

The slide is hurting the US economy, and as Axios put it, is partly “self-inflicted:” There has been a significant drop in visitors from US allies like Canada and several European countries, which have been a target of Washington’s trade war and taunts.

Meanwhile, China is attracting more visitors with its visa-free entry policies, and Japan’s weak currency is drawing in a record number of tourists.

“We’re the only major country in the world losing visitation,” the head of the US Travel Association said. “It’s mind-boggling.”

partly “self-inflicted” ???

self improved

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Date: 1/10/2026 07:36:42
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2435104
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

https://www.semafor.com/article/09/29/2026/decline-in-tourism-hits-us-economy

Overseas visitors to the US are on track to drop by almost two million year-on-year, with even the FIFA Men’s World Cup failing to arrest the decline in tourism.

The slide is hurting the US economy, and as Axios put it, is partly “self-inflicted:” There has been a significant drop in visitors from US allies like Canada and several European countries, which have been a target of Washington’s trade war and taunts.

Meanwhile, China is attracting more visitors with its visa-free entry policies, and Japan’s weak currency is drawing in a record number of tourists.

“We’re the only major country in the world losing visitation,” the head of the US Travel Association said. “It’s mind-boggling.”

partly “self-inflicted” ???

self improved

super improved

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Date: 1/10/2026 08:07:10
From: ms spock
ID: 2435106
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

partly “self-inflicted” ???

self improved

super improved

fixed

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Date: 1/10/2026 08:19:16
From: Michael V
ID: 2435109
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

https://www.semafor.com/article/09/29/2026/decline-in-tourism-hits-us-economy

Overseas visitors to the US are on track to drop by almost two million year-on-year, with even the FIFA Men’s World Cup failing to arrest the decline in tourism.

The slide is hurting the US economy, and as Axios put it, is partly “self-inflicted:” There has been a significant drop in visitors from US allies like Canada and several European countries, which have been a target of Washington’s trade war and taunts.

Meanwhile, China is attracting more visitors with its visa-free entry policies, and Japan’s weak currency is drawing in a record number of tourists.

“We’re the only major country in the world losing visitation,” the head of the US Travel Association said. “It’s mind-boggling.”

partly “self-inflicted” ???

No, entirely self-inflicted.

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Date: 1/10/2026 09:58:46
From: dv
ID: 2435127
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crq5xvnq8yzqo

In the US, men accept cabinet positions instead of going to therapy.

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Date: 1/10/2026 10:00:47
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2435128
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crq5xvnq8yzqo

In the US, men accept cabinet positions instead of going to therapy.

You couldn’t make this shit up.

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Date: 1/10/2026 10:24:54
From: ms spock
ID: 2435137
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crq5xvnq8yzqo

In the US, men accept cabinet positions instead of going to therapy.

OMG! 😮😮😮

I LOLed so much then felt sad.

You are channeling Dr Bandy X Lee, Mary Trump, Wajahat Ali, Dr Stephen Hassan et.al. Danielle Moodie and Jared Yates Sexton do podcast/YouTube based on this premise.

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Date: 1/10/2026 10:31:57
From: ms spock
ID: 2435138
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crq5xvnq8yzqo

In the US, men accept cabinet positions instead of going to therapy.

You couldn’t make this shit up.

What is the problem with people with beards? I think that this needs to be clarified.






And the Epstein Files and Videos are not being discussed.

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Date: 1/10/2026 10:36:17
From: dv
ID: 2435139
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Meanwhile…

Bryon Donalds is a Republican congressman from Florida who is running for Governor.
I got nothing against him, I just want to present what one of the public asked him about at a campaign event. Her daughter has gone no-contact and won’t let her see her granchild and she wants laws to force parents to let grandparents see their grandchildren.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19iFjjnnn9/

I realise this is an unusual demand but at the same time it is emblematic of the modern Republican party, which went from being the party of small government to the party of strong, intrusive government to address their grievances specifically.

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Date: 1/10/2026 10:42:20
From: Cymek
ID: 2435142
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Meanwhile…

Bryon Donalds is a Republican congressman from Florida who is running for Governor.
I got nothing against him, I just want to present what one of the public asked him about at a campaign event. Her daughter has gone no-contact and won’t let her see her granchild and she wants laws to force parents to let grandparents see their grandchildren.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19iFjjnnn9/

I realise this is an unusual demand but at the same time it is emblematic of the modern Republican party, which went from being the party of small government to the party of strong, intrusive government to address their grievances specifically.

It supposedly is a right in Australian anyway for grandparents to have access to grandchildren.
Obviously not if said grandparent is a danger (be that physically or emotionally)

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Date: 1/10/2026 10:42:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435143
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Meanwhile…

Bryon Donalds is a Republican congressman from Florida who is running for Governor.
I got nothing against him, I just want to present what one of the public asked him about at a campaign event. Her daughter has gone no-contact and won’t let her see her granchild and she wants laws to force parents to let grandparents see their grandchildren.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19iFjjnnn9/

I realise this is an unusual demand but at the same time it is emblematic of the modern Republican party, which went from being the party of small government to the party of strong, intrusive government to address their grievances specifically.

They’re still for ‘small government’ when it comes to things like the environment, health, social welfare, and, especially, when there’s anything governmental that limits them doing exactly what they want to do.

They’re for ‘big government’ when it comes to making other people do exactly what they want them to do, and for reminding the peasantry of who’s in charge and means to stay in charge.

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Date: 1/10/2026 10:45:35
From: dv
ID: 2435146
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


dv said:

Meanwhile…

Bryon Donalds is a Republican congressman from Florida who is running for Governor.
I got nothing against him, I just want to present what one of the public asked him about at a campaign event. Her daughter has gone no-contact and won’t let her see her granchild and she wants laws to force parents to let grandparents see their grandchildren.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19iFjjnnn9/

I realise this is an unusual demand but at the same time it is emblematic of the modern Republican party, which went from being the party of small government to the party of strong, intrusive government to address their grievances specifically.

It supposedly is a right in Australian anyway for grandparents to have access to grandchildren.
Obviously not if said grandparent is a danger (be that physically or emotionally)

That appears not to be true. Grandparents do not have that general right in Australia.

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Date: 1/10/2026 10:54:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2435152
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

Meanwhile…

Bryon Donalds is a Republican congressman from Florida who is running for Governor.
I got nothing against him, I just want to present what one of the public asked him about at a campaign event. Her daughter has gone no-contact and won’t let her see her granchild and she wants laws to force parents to let grandparents see their grandchildren.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19iFjjnnn9/

I realise this is an unusual demand but at the same time it is emblematic of the modern Republican party, which went from being the party of small government to the party of strong, intrusive government to address their grievances specifically.

It supposedly is a right in Australian anyway for grandparents to have access to grandchildren.
Obviously not if said grandparent is a danger (be that physically or emotionally)

That appears not to be true. Grandparents do not have that general right in Australia.

wait what does the law say about who has a right to access children

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Date: 1/10/2026 10:54:18
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435153
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crq5xvnq8yzqo

In the US, men accept cabinet positions instead of going to therapy.

You couldn’t make this shit up.

What is the problem with people with beards? I think that this needs to be clarified.

There are a bunch of reasons that men in the military are required to be clean-shaven, some are practical and make sense, others are just related to maintaining a certain standard.

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Date: 1/10/2026 10:57:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435154
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


ms spock said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You couldn’t make this shit up.

What is the problem with people with beards? I think that this needs to be clarified.

There are a bunch of reasons that men in the military are required to be clean-shaven, some are practical and make sense, others are just related to maintaining a certain standard.

Men in the Navy can have beards.

One of the provisos is that the beard must not reduce the effectiveness of respiratory protective equipment.

A moderate-length bead, kept trimmed, need not affect the fit of a respirator.

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Date: 1/10/2026 11:04:46
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435159
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


diddly-squat said:

ms spock said:

What is the problem with people with beards? I think that this needs to be clarified.

There are a bunch of reasons that men in the military are required to be clean-shaven, some are practical and make sense, others are just related to maintaining a certain standard.

Men in the Navy can have beards.

One of the provisos is that the beard must not reduce the effectiveness of respiratory protective equipment.

A moderate-length bead, kept trimmed, need not affect the fit of a respirator.

yep, the breathing masks are the key practical reason.. most UG coal mines have the same stipulations.

you can often wear a moustache but it’s pretty limited.

The other reason beards are, to some extent, not worn in the military is that they are used as a status symbol, in that special forces are often given waivers.

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Date: 1/10/2026 11:06:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435160
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Australian author James E. McDonnell wrote many naval stories, some of which were based on his WW2 experiences.

One anecdote of his was about when the destroyer that he was in called at the South African port of Durban.

A dance had been organised, ad many of the local young ladies were attending, but all seemed to be very reluctant to dance with the Australian sailors.

Finally, someone asked them why.

One young woman explained that another Australian ship, well known to McDonnell’s ship, had been in Durban the week before, and had informed them that, in Australia, having a beard signified that you had a ‘social disease’.

McDonnell’s ship was in the grip of one of those fads that can overtake isolated groups, this one for growing beards. Quite a lot of the ship’s company had one. This was well known to that ‘other ship’.

McDonnell said that they left Durban rather keen to catch up with that ‘other ship’,

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Date: 1/10/2026 11:08:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435162
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

There are a bunch of reasons that men in the military are required to be clean-shaven, some are practical and make sense, others are just related to maintaining a certain standard.

Men in the Navy can have beards.

One of the provisos is that the beard must not reduce the effectiveness of respiratory protective equipment.

A moderate-length bead, kept trimmed, need not affect the fit of a respirator.

yep, the breathing masks are the key practical reason.. most UG coal mines have the same stipulations.

you can often wear a moustache but it’s pretty limited.

The other reason beards are, to some extent, not worn in the military is that they are used as a status symbol, in that special forces are often given waivers.

Yes. I understand that only members of the Pioneer Corps in the Australian Army may wear a beard, and the same applies in the French Foreign Legion.

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Date: 1/10/2026 11:09:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2435165
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

The Australian author James E. McDonnell wrote many naval stories, some of which were based on his WW2 experiences.

One anecdote of his was about when the destroyer that he was in called at the South African port of Durban.

A dance had been organised, ad many of the local young ladies were attending, but all seemed to be very reluctant to dance with the Australian sailors.

Finally, someone asked them why.

One young woman explained that another Australian ship, well known to McDonnell’s ship, had been in Durban the week before, and had informed them that, in Australia, having a beard signified that you had a ‘social disease’.

McDonnell’s ship was in the grip of one of those fads that can overtake isolated groups, this one for growing beards. Quite a lot of the ship’s company had one. This was well known to that ‘other ship’.

McDonnell said that they left Durban rather keen to catch up with that ‘other ship’,

LOL

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Date: 1/10/2026 11:22:03
From: Cymek
ID: 2435166
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


ms spock said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You couldn’t make this shit up.

What is the problem with people with beards? I think that this needs to be clarified.

There are a bunch of reasons that men in the military are required to be clean-shaven, some are practical and make sense, others are just related to maintaining a certain standard.

Plus it helps to depersonalise them as individuals

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Date: 1/10/2026 11:24:58
From: Arts
ID: 2435169
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crq5xvnq8yzqo

In the US, men accept cabinet positions instead of going to therapy.

You couldn’t make this shit up.

What is the problem with people with beards? I think that this needs to be clarified.

My father always used to say that a man with a beard has something to hide. (usually a weak jawline)

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Date: 1/10/2026 11:28:20
From: Cymek
ID: 2435170
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Arts said:


ms spock said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You couldn’t make this shit up.

What is the problem with people with beards? I think that this needs to be clarified.

My father always used to say that a man with a beard has something to hide. (usually a weak jawline)

Usually they are from an evil parallel universe

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Date: 1/10/2026 11:28:22
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435171
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Every three months I have to do inspections at three UG mines in central Qld. This is the grooming standard chart I get sent

I can only imagine that the military has a similar guide

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Date: 1/10/2026 11:29:38
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2435172
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Arts said:


ms spock said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You couldn’t make this shit up.

What is the problem with people with beards? I think that this needs to be clarified.

My father always used to say that a man with a beard has something to hide. (usually a weak jawline)

Some footballers/athletes wear beaeds to hide the effects of steroid use, it changes the jaw line, apparently.

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Date: 1/10/2026 11:32:46
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2435174
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I have a beard. I’ve had it so long I have forgotten what sort of jawline I have.

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Date: 1/10/2026 11:35:10
From: Cymek
ID: 2435175
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Arts said:

ms spock said:

What is the problem with people with beards? I think that this needs to be clarified.

My father always used to say that a man with a beard has something to hide. (usually a weak jawline)

Some footballers/athletes wear beaeds to hide the effects of steroid use, it changes the jaw line, apparently.

In Star Trek you know beards mean the character has levelled up
Riker and Sisko are good examples
In Star Wars they are usually going hermit mode and bowing out
Luke, Obi-Wan

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Date: 1/10/2026 11:57:56
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2435181
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The guy left work, ordered an Uber, and while waiting he was arrested for sitting on a bench right after the store closed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/1wu259w/the_guy_left_work_ordered_an_uber_and_while/

Another reason why I don’t want Australia to be more like the US.

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Date: 1/10/2026 12:06:04
From: kii
ID: 2435188
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


The guy left work, ordered an Uber, and while waiting he was arrested for sitting on a bench right after the store closed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/1wu259w/the_guy_left_work_ordered_an_uber_and_while/

Another reason why I don’t want Australia to be more like the US.

What I find strange is the bench outside the pharmacy. Outside public seating was nearly non-existent in LC.

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Date: 1/10/2026 12:37:25
From: dv
ID: 2435199
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Oh internet, I can’t stay mad at you

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Date: 1/10/2026 12:50:28
From: dv
ID: 2435205
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/only-a-hispanic-could-survive-that-fall-trump-tells-white-house-crowd-20261001-p611zd.html

Donald Trump has made a bizarre remark about Hispanic people surviving large falls during an event at the White House.

The president was talking about his ballroom project at the White House event to make Hispanic Heritage Month.

He was talking at length about his East Wing renovations.

“You literally will be the first group ever to enter,” he told the crowd.

“Don’t fall over the edge because it’s a long way down. And only a Hispanic could survive that fall. So I’m not too worried.”

The crowd cheered at his remarks.

—-

Always great to learn about new racist tropes. What the fuck?

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Date: 1/10/2026 13:01:44
From: kii
ID: 2435207
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/only-a-hispanic-could-survive-that-fall-trump-tells-white-house-crowd-20261001-p611zd.html

Donald Trump has made a bizarre remark about Hispanic people surviving large falls during an event at the White House.

The president was talking about his ballroom project at the White House event to make Hispanic Heritage Month.

He was talking at length about his East Wing renovations.

“You literally will be the first group ever to enter,” he told the crowd.

“Don’t fall over the edge because it’s a long way down. And only a Hispanic could survive that fall. So I’m not too worried.”

The crowd cheered at his remarks.

—-

Always great to learn about new racist tropes. What the fuck?

Stop making me laugh so much.

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Date: 1/10/2026 13:02:27
From: dv
ID: 2435208
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/only-a-hispanic-could-survive-that-fall-trump-tells-white-house-crowd-20261001-p611zd.html

Donald Trump has made a bizarre remark about Hispanic people surviving large falls during an event at the White House.

The president was talking about his ballroom project at the White House event to make Hispanic Heritage Month.

He was talking at length about his East Wing renovations.

“You literally will be the first group ever to enter,” he told the crowd.

“Don’t fall over the edge because it’s a long way down. And only a Hispanic could survive that fall. So I’m not too worried.”

The crowd cheered at his remarks.

—-

Always great to learn about new racist tropes. What the fuck?

Stop making me laugh so much.

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Date: 1/10/2026 13:15:08
From: kii
ID: 2435216
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


kii said:

dv said:

https://www.nine.com.au/world-news/usa/only-a-hispanic-could-survive-that-fall-trump-tells-white-house-crowd-20261001-p611zd.html

Donald Trump has made a bizarre remark about Hispanic people surviving large falls during an event at the White House.

The president was talking about his ballroom project at the White House event to make Hispanic Heritage Month.

He was talking at length about his East Wing renovations.

“You literally will be the first group ever to enter,” he told the crowd.

“Don’t fall over the edge because it’s a long way down. And only a Hispanic could survive that fall. So I’m not too worried.”

The crowd cheered at his remarks.

—-

Always great to learn about new racist tropes. What the fuck?

Stop making me laugh so much.


Wait…what?

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Date: 1/10/2026 14:44:07
From: Neophyte
ID: 2435232
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump at his Hispanic Heritage Month celebration today at the White House:

“Now we’ll get back to Hispanics, okay, but the Hispanics, what I just said about being out of a place where probably shouldn’t have gone, was so good, you know what happened? They fired everybody. They took everybody in Iraq. They fired the soldiers. They fired the generals. They fired the police. They fired everybody in the Home Office or the equivalent of the what? They had nobody, so they have Iraq and they had nobody to run it. And you know what happened? ISIS formed.”

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Date: 1/10/2026 15:00:16
From: kii
ID: 2435234
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


Trump at his Hispanic Heritage Month celebration today at the White House:

“Now we’ll get back to Hispanics, okay, but the Hispanics, what I just said about being out of a place where probably shouldn’t have gone, was so good, you know what happened? They fired everybody. They took everybody in Iraq. They fired the soldiers. They fired the generals. They fired the police. They fired everybody in the Home Office or the equivalent of the what? They had nobody, so they have Iraq and they had nobody to run it. And you know what happened? ISIS formed.”

Stop it. My brain has given up.

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Date: 1/10/2026 15:46:24
From: kii
ID: 2435236
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 1/10/2026 15:57:49
From: dv
ID: 2435238
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/6121765-pete-hegseth-takeaways-command-warfare-base/

Creates Office of Religious Affairs

In his last proclamation, Hegseth declared he will establish the Office of Religious Affairs at the Pentagon that “will report straight to the top.”

“Cutting-edge technology … new basing and bases … and a better educational pipeline are still incomplete without the most essential component of our republic: faith,” he told the assembled service members.

He said the Defense Department has “a sacred duty” to provide troops with “first-class religious support” wherever they’re sent, bashing past administrations for treating the topic as an afterthought.

“Political correctness and secular humanism got a vote. Chaplains did not. Budgets were cut. Resourcing and manpower needs were ignored. Base chapels fell apart,” Hegseth claimed. “Decisions about faith and religion were made by secular careerists in cubicles and lawyers running around with red tape.”

Starting Wednesday, the Office of Religious Affairs will have “a direct line to the secretary” and will “protect budgets, demand infrastructure, and strengthen religious support,” he said.

Hegseth frequently invokes his faith and has declared service members’ spiritual health as “equally important” as their physical and mental health.

Earlier this year he revamped the U.S. military’s Chaplain Corps, announcing that the officers will no longer wear their rank insignia, instead displaying insignia that reflects their religious affiliation — part of two major changes to the group.

—

According to the official Department of War Memorandum and Hegseth’s “State of the Force” address, the office is designed to elevate spiritual readiness as a core element of combat effectiveness.

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Date: 1/10/2026 16:08:00
From: Cymek
ID: 2435242
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://thehill.com/policy/defense/6121765-pete-hegseth-takeaways-command-warfare-base/

Creates Office of Religious Affairs

In his last proclamation, Hegseth declared he will establish the Office of Religious Affairs at the Pentagon that “will report straight to the top.”

“Cutting-edge technology … new basing and bases … and a better educational pipeline are still incomplete without the most essential component of our republic: faith,” he told the assembled service members.

He said the Defense Department has “a sacred duty” to provide troops with “first-class religious support” wherever they’re sent, bashing past administrations for treating the topic as an afterthought.

“Political correctness and secular humanism got a vote. Chaplains did not. Budgets were cut. Resourcing and manpower needs were ignored. Base chapels fell apart,” Hegseth claimed. “Decisions about faith and religion were made by secular careerists in cubicles and lawyers running around with red tape.”

Starting Wednesday, the Office of Religious Affairs will have “a direct line to the secretary” and will “protect budgets, demand infrastructure, and strengthen religious support,” he said.

Hegseth frequently invokes his faith and has declared service members’ spiritual health as “equally important” as their physical and mental health.

Earlier this year he revamped the U.S. military’s Chaplain Corps, announcing that the officers will no longer wear their rank insignia, instead displaying insignia that reflects their religious affiliation — part of two major changes to the group.

—

According to the official Department of War Memorandum and Hegseth’s “State of the Force” address, the office is designed to elevate spiritual readiness as a core element of combat effectiveness.

Soldier “Father I feel bad killing them no good Muslims, they were praying in their own misguided way and we just drone strike them”

Priest “Son, they are Muslims and don’t count as people, its why we kill them in their hundreds of thousands, its gods will”

Soldier “So they aren’t really people, thanks father I feel so much better”

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Date: 1/10/2026 16:12:45
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2435243
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


dv said:

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/6121765-pete-hegseth-takeaways-command-warfare-base/

Creates Office of Religious Affairs

In his last proclamation, Hegseth declared he will establish the Office of Religious Affairs at the Pentagon that “will report straight to the top.”

“Cutting-edge technology … new basing and bases … and a better educational pipeline are still incomplete without the most essential component of our republic: faith,” he told the assembled service members.

He said the Defense Department has “a sacred duty” to provide troops with “first-class religious support” wherever they’re sent, bashing past administrations for treating the topic as an afterthought.

“Political correctness and secular humanism got a vote. Chaplains did not. Budgets were cut. Resourcing and manpower needs were ignored. Base chapels fell apart,” Hegseth claimed. “Decisions about faith and religion were made by secular careerists in cubicles and lawyers running around with red tape.”

Starting Wednesday, the Office of Religious Affairs will have “a direct line to the secretary” and will “protect budgets, demand infrastructure, and strengthen religious support,” he said.

Hegseth frequently invokes his faith and has declared service members’ spiritual health as “equally important” as their physical and mental health.

Earlier this year he revamped the U.S. military’s Chaplain Corps, announcing that the officers will no longer wear their rank insignia, instead displaying insignia that reflects their religious affiliation — part of two major changes to the group.

—

According to the official Department of War Memorandum and Hegseth’s “State of the Force” address, the office is designed to elevate spiritual readiness as a core element of combat effectiveness.

Soldier “Father I feel bad killing them no good Muslims, they were praying in their own misguided way and we just drone strike them”

Priest “Son, they are Muslims and don’t count as people, its why we kill them in their hundreds of thousands, its gods will”

Soldier “So they aren’t really people, thanks father I feel so much better”

That’s a rather grim assessment of Catholicism.

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Date: 1/10/2026 16:15:00
From: dv
ID: 2435244
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

While he is prancing about with all this extraneous nonsense. you’d never guess that he is the Secretary of Defence during a time when naval vessels are having crippling supply issues during a war that’s gone of the rails. He doesn’t seem to be interested in that kind of thing at all.

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Date: 1/10/2026 16:28:49
From: Cymek
ID: 2435245
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


While he is prancing about with all this extraneous nonsense. you’d never guess that he is the Secretary of Defence during a time when naval vessels are having crippling supply issues during a war that’s gone of the rails. He doesn’t seem to be interested in that kind of thing at all.

That’s not new either
I remember reading about the readiness of USA naval warships ten years ago due to stress, over extension, etc
Months at sea with a ship in tip top condition would cause stress but ones where the food is sub par, and you don’t have clean clothes, etc.
Look after your soldiers physical needs first, you owe them that at a minimum

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Date: 1/10/2026 16:42:36
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2435251
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


While he is prancing about with all this extraneous nonsense. you’d never guess that he is the Secretary of Defence during a time when naval vessels are having crippling supply issues during a war that’s gone of the rails. He doesn’t seem to be interested in that kind of thing at all.

It reminds me of the old saying, “amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics.”
Reckon we’re seeing a bit of that now.
But still shitty tactics as well.

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Date: 1/10/2026 16:59:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435253
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


dv said:

While he is prancing about with all this extraneous nonsense. you’d never guess that he is the Secretary of Defence during a time when naval vessels are having crippling supply issues during a war that’s gone of the rails. He doesn’t seem to be interested in that kind of thing at all.

That’s not new either
I remember reading about the readiness of USA naval warships ten years ago due to stress, over extension, etc
Months at sea with a ship in tip top condition would cause stress but ones where the food is sub par, and you don’t have clean clothes, etc.
Look after your soldiers physical needs first, you owe them that at a minimum

US Navy.

Not even a beer issue to look forward to.

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Date: 1/10/2026 18:10:56
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435283
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

And the numbers keep on climbing – the generic ballot now has the Dems with a 9.6 point lead over the GOP

Say it’s gas prices, say it’s the swap over to likely voters in the polling, say it’s the arse falling out of the Trump coalition – whatever it is, it’s all trending in one direction at the moment.

Models currently have the Dems with an almost 93% chance of taking the House and a 72% change of controlling the Senate (note, models had Hillary at 71% of winning the presidency a week out from the 2016 election)

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Date: 1/10/2026 18:16:10
From: Michael V
ID: 2435284
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:

And the numbers keep on climbing – the generic ballot now has the Dems with a 9.6 point lead over the GOP

Say it’s gas prices, say it’s the swap over to likely voters in the polling, say it’s the arse falling out of the Trump coalition – whatever it is, it’s all trending in one direction at the moment.

Models currently have the Dems with an almost 93% chance of taking the House and a 72% change of controlling the Senate (note, models had Hillary at 71% of winning the presidency a week out from the 2016 election)

Good.

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Date: 1/10/2026 18:31:22
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435285
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


diddly-squat said:

And the numbers keep on climbing – the generic ballot now has the Dems with a 9.6 point lead over the GOP

Say it’s gas prices, say it’s the swap over to likely voters in the polling, say it’s the arse falling out of the Trump coalition – whatever it is, it’s all trending in one direction at the moment.

Models currently have the Dems with an almost 93% chance of taking the House and a 72% change of controlling the Senate (note, models had Hillary at 71% of winning the presidency a week out from the 2016 election)

Good.

Sure… the odds look good… but if someone told you that you had about a 1-in-10 chance of winning the lottery, would you say you have a good chance?

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Date: 1/10/2026 18:42:12
From: Michael V
ID: 2435286
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Michael V said:

diddly-squat said:

And the numbers keep on climbing – the generic ballot now has the Dems with a 9.6 point lead over the GOP

Say it’s gas prices, say it’s the swap over to likely voters in the polling, say it’s the arse falling out of the Trump coalition – whatever it is, it’s all trending in one direction at the moment.

Models currently have the Dems with an almost 93% chance of taking the House and a 72% change of controlling the Senate (note, models had Hillary at 71% of winning the presidency a week out from the 2016 election)

Good.

Sure… the odds look good… but if someone told you that you had about a 1-in-10 chance of winning the lottery, would you say you have a good chance?

OK, so what am I missing.

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Date: 1/10/2026 18:48:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435289
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:

And the numbers keep on climbing – the generic ballot now has the Dems with a 9.6 point lead over the GOP

Say it’s gas prices, say it’s the swap over to likely voters in the polling, say it’s the arse falling out of the Trump coalition – whatever it is, it’s all trending in one direction at the moment.

Models currently have the Dems with an almost 93% chance of taking the House and a 72% change of controlling the Senate (note, models had Hillary at 71% of winning the presidency a week out from the 2016 election)

Looks great.

And everyone expected Clinton to cruise home in 2016. So, the Democrats sat back, and waited ‘for nature to take its course’.

Which is how we got to where we are.

It’s not over until the GOP’s ex-Senators and ex-Congress members get turfed out of their offices.

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Date: 1/10/2026 18:59:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2435293
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

And everyone expected Clinton to cruise home in 2016. So, the Democrats sat back, and waited ‘for nature to take its course’.

Which is how we got to where we are.

maybe though we’d probably put the entrenchment of north americese fascism down more to the D team being far right than them being complacently lazy

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Date: 1/10/2026 19:00:58
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435295
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


diddly-squat said:

And the numbers keep on climbing – the generic ballot now has the Dems with a 9.6 point lead over the GOP

Say it’s gas prices, say it’s the swap over to likely voters in the polling, say it’s the arse falling out of the Trump coalition – whatever it is, it’s all trending in one direction at the moment.

Models currently have the Dems with an almost 93% chance of taking the House and a 72% change of controlling the Senate (note, models had Hillary at 71% of winning the presidency a week out from the 2016 election)

Looks great.

And everyone expected Clinton to cruise home in 2016. So, the Democrats sat back, and waited ‘for nature to take its course’.

Which is how we got to where we are.

It’s not over until the GOP’s ex-Senators and ex-Congress members get turfed out of their offices.

I think it’s easy to confuse 72% chance of winning with “cruise to a win” (which was kind of my point in replying to MV).

Things with a 3 in 10 chance of happening are what I would call being on the very edge of “unlikely”… but hey, even the sun shines on a dog’s arse some days

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Date: 1/10/2026 19:02:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2435297
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

dv said:

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/6121765-pete-hegseth-takeaways-command-warfare-base/

Creates Office of Religious Affairs

In his last proclamation, Hegseth declared he will establish the Office of Religious Affairs at the Pentagon that “will report straight to the top.”

“Cutting-edge technology … new basing and bases … and a better educational pipeline are still incomplete without the most essential component of our republic: faith,” he told the assembled service members.

He said the Defense Department has “a sacred duty” to provide troops with “first-class religious support” wherever they’re sent, bashing past administrations for treating the topic as an afterthought.

“Political correctness and secular humanism got a vote. Chaplains did not. Budgets were cut. Resourcing and manpower needs were ignored. Base chapels fell apart,” Hegseth claimed. “Decisions about faith and religion were made by secular careerists in cubicles and lawyers running around with red tape.”

Starting Wednesday, the Office of Religious Affairs will have “a direct line to the secretary” and will “protect budgets, demand infrastructure, and strengthen religious support,” he said.

Hegseth frequently invokes his faith and has declared service members’ spiritual health as “equally important” as their physical and mental health.

Earlier this year he revamped the U.S. military’s Chaplain Corps, announcing that the officers will no longer wear their rank insignia, instead displaying insignia that reflects their religious affiliation — part of two major changes to the group.

—

According to the official Department of War Memorandum and Hegseth’s “State of the Force” address, the office is designed to elevate spiritual readiness as a core element of combat effectiveness.

Soldier “Father I feel bad killing them no good Muslims, they were praying in their own misguided way and we just drone strike them”

Priest “Son, they are Muslims and don’t count as people, its why we kill them in their hundreds of thousands, its gods will”

Soldier “So they aren’t really people, thanks father I feel so much better”

shrug they’re on our team and are the good guys who uphold the international rules based law and order so this is ideal

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Date: 1/10/2026 19:20:57
From: party_pants
ID: 2435300
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

You’re all assuming that the elections will be free and fair.

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Date: 1/10/2026 19:30:25
From: Michael V
ID: 2435301
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

And the numbers keep on climbing – the generic ballot now has the Dems with a 9.6 point lead over the GOP

Say it’s gas prices, say it’s the swap over to likely voters in the polling, say it’s the arse falling out of the Trump coalition – whatever it is, it’s all trending in one direction at the moment.

Models currently have the Dems with an almost 93% chance of taking the House and a 72% change of controlling the Senate (note, models had Hillary at 71% of winning the presidency a week out from the 2016 election)

Looks great.

And everyone expected Clinton to cruise home in 2016. So, the Democrats sat back, and waited ‘for nature to take its course’.

Which is how we got to where we are.

It’s not over until the GOP’s ex-Senators and ex-Congress members get turfed out of their offices.

I think it’s easy to confuse 72% chance of winning with “cruise to a win” (which was kind of my point in replying to MV).

Things with a 3 in 10 chance of happening are what I would call being on the very edge of “unlikely”… but hey, even the sun shines on a dog’s arse some days

IDGI.

72% chance of winning is a 7.2 in 10 chance of winning isn’t it?

Can you explain what I have messed up.

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Date: 1/10/2026 22:27:33
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2435330
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

So Hegseth wants to fire 20% of the top US military brass: does that officially constitute a purge? That worked so well for Stalin. I almost wish Canada would invade.

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Date: 1/10/2026 23:34:55
From: kii
ID: 2435354
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cankles McGrifty Legs….lololol 😆😜😹

Link…lolol

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Date: 1/10/2026 23:48:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435356
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Cankles McGrifty Legs….lololol 😆😜😹

Link…lolol

It’s going to be so interesting when he finally drops dead, and everyone can write their tell-all books about the chaotic smoke-and-mirrors endless-distraction what-day-is-it new-‘policy’-every-ten-minutes shitshow rodeo fandango chimps-tea-party that is the Trump White House.

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Date: 1/10/2026 23:56:54
From: kii
ID: 2435357
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

Cankles McGrifty Legs….lololol 😆😜😹

Link…lolol

It’s going to be so interesting when he finally drops dead, and everyone can write their tell-all books about the chaotic smoke-and-mirrors endless-distraction what-day-is-it new-‘policy’-every-ten-minutes shitshow rodeo fandango chimps-tea-party that is the Trump White House.

It sure will be interesting. There’s so much to unpack. You’ve described it very well.

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Date: 2/10/2026 17:24:34
From: Neophyte
ID: 2435561
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Here are some quotes from Trump’s Time interview released today. Why bother asking a question. Just point at him and say “go”.

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Date: 2/10/2026 17:50:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435567
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


Here are some quotes from Trump’s Time interview released today. Why bother asking a question. Just point at him and say “go”.


I used to think that i just wanted Trump to die.

Not horribly, not violently, just doze off and never wake up.

It’s getting to the point where i’m beginning to re-think the ‘not horribly, not violently’ part.

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Date: 2/10/2026 17:55:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435571
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


Here are some quotes from Trump’s Time interview released today. Why bother asking a question. Just point at him and say “go”.


Summary: ‘why don’t you love me? Why doesn’t everyone love me?’

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Date: 2/10/2026 18:05:54
From: party_pants
ID: 2435579
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Neophyte said:

Here are some quotes from Trump’s Time interview released today. Why bother asking a question. Just point at him and say “go”.


I used to think that i just wanted Trump to die.

Not horribly, not violently, just doze off and never wake up.

It’s getting to the point where i’m beginning to re-think the ‘not horribly, not violently’ part.

dragged out into the streets and shot has been my thoughts for quite a while now. Along with nearly all of his cabinet too.

Needs for the MAGAs to lose the speakers chair in the HoR, and as soon as a new one is appointed get rid of both POTUS and VP, so the speaker becomes next in line. He can then sack all the rest of the cabinet on the spot and have them kicked out onto the streets too. Their fate rests with the crowd.

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Date: 2/10/2026 18:15:33
From: Arts
ID: 2435586
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Neophyte said:

Here are some quotes from Trump’s Time interview released today. Why bother asking a question. Just point at him and say “go”.


I used to think that i just wanted Trump to die.

Not horribly, not violently, just doze off and never wake up.

It’s getting to the point where i’m beginning to re-think the ‘not horribly, not violently’ part.

Wow.

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Date: 2/10/2026 19:15:38
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2435595
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Arts said:


captain_spalding said:

Neophyte said:

Here are some quotes from Trump’s Time interview released today. Why bother asking a question. Just point at him and say “go”.


I used to think that i just wanted Trump to die.

Not horribly, not violently, just doze off and never wake up.

It’s getting to the point where i’m beginning to re-think the ‘not horribly, not violently’ part.

Wow.

I just want to see him locked up.

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Date: 2/10/2026 19:36:25
From: party_pants
ID: 2435596
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:


Arts said:

captain_spalding said:

I used to think that i just wanted Trump to die.

Not horribly, not violently, just doze off and never wake up.

It’s getting to the point where i’m beginning to re-think the ‘not horribly, not violently’ part.

Wow.

I just want to see him locked up.

I want to see him and his whole crowd kicked out of office at the earliest opportunity, before he drags the world into ruin. There is no legal process for this to happen.

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Date: 2/10/2026 19:40:23
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2435597
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Wigtown martyrs were a couple of women who were put to death by tying them to stakes at low tide and drowned at high tide, no mucking around with failed injections and modern methods and stuff.

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Date: 2/10/2026 19:44:14
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2435598
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:


Arts said:

captain_spalding said:

I used to think that i just wanted Trump to die.

Not horribly, not violently, just doze off and never wake up.

It’s getting to the point where i’m beginning to re-think the ‘not horribly, not violently’ part.

Wow.

I just want to see him locked up.

I think he will die of natural causes during his third term.

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Date: 2/10/2026 20:43:23
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2435609
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

Wow.

I just want to see him locked up.

I think he will die of natural causes during his third term.

Yes, then they will bring him back back to life, for a fourth term….

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Date: 2/10/2026 20:45:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435610
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I just want to see him locked up.

I think he will die of natural causes during his third term.

Yes, then they will bring him back back to life, for a fourth term….

Elon’s working on an immortal robot version of him.

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Date: 2/10/2026 21:00:35
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2435613
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I think he will die of natural causes during his third term.

Yes, then they will bring him back back to life, for a fourth term….

Elon’s working on an immortal robot version of him.

RoboGop?

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Date: 2/10/2026 21:08:02
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2435614
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I think he will die of natural causes during his third term.

Yes, then they will bring him back back to life, for a fourth term….

Elon’s working on an immortal robot version of him.

The religious memes will take on new meaning.

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Date: 2/10/2026 21:14:25
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2435616
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:


Arts said:

captain_spalding said:

I used to think that i just wanted Trump to die.

Not horribly, not violently, just doze off and never wake up.

It’s getting to the point where i’m beginning to re-think the ‘not horribly, not violently’ part.

Wow.

I just want to see him strung up by the ankles.

Fixed.

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Date: 2/10/2026 21:20:42
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2435620
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Alleged:

Note dates:

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Date: 2/10/2026 21:24:07
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2435621
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Alleged:

Note dates:


He puts his ego above everyone.

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Date: 2/10/2026 21:26:18
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2435623
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Alleged:

Note dates:


What do the dates refer to?

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Date: 2/10/2026 21:34:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2435624
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Alleged:

Note dates:


What do the dates refer to?

I presume that’s when the posts were made.

I also presume that’s how old Twitter posts look these days on X.

Alternatively someone may have just made them up.

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Date: 2/10/2026 21:38:56
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2435627
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Alleged:

Note dates:


What do the dates refer to?

He said these things way back when Obama was president. His actions today expose him as the hypocrite he is. That is if he were intelligent to understand what hypocrisy is.

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Date: 2/10/2026 21:56:26
From: dv
ID: 2435631
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Migrant children as young as 2 are showing up at immigration courts nationwide, many without attorneys, to make their case to stay in the US and avoid deportation.
Inside the immigration court in Harlingen, Texas, on Monday, caseworkers quietly explained to the minors who everyone was — from the interpreter and secretary to the judge in a black robe.

Most of the children, dressed formally with neatly styled hair, waited impatiently for the judge. Among the first to appear before the judge was a 13-year-old Honduran boy named Angel. He didn’t have an attorney.

Asked whether there was a reason he couldn’t return to Honduras, Angel told the judge, “My mom and almost my entire family are here. It’s too dangerous to go back.”

But that wasn’t enough for the judge, who told the boy he did not qualify for asylum. “Would you like to request voluntary departure, or should I issue a removal order?” The judge asked.

“I don’t know,” Angel replied before bursting into tears. He stared ahead stoically and continued to cry, eventually saying: “I have no one. I have nothing.”

https://www.kdrv.com/news/social/exclusive-inside-the-texas-courtroom-where-toddlers-face-immigration-judges/article_255cdb84-f153-5c95-8df9-f0c2e66ae810.html

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Date: 2/10/2026 22:08:11
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2435632
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Migrant children as young as 2 are showing up at immigration courts nationwide, many without attorneys, to make their case to stay in the US and avoid deportation.
Inside the immigration court in Harlingen, Texas, on Monday, caseworkers quietly explained to the minors who everyone was — from the interpreter and secretary to the judge in a black robe.

Most of the children, dressed formally with neatly styled hair, waited impatiently for the judge. Among the first to appear before the judge was a 13-year-old Honduran boy named Angel. He didn’t have an attorney.

Asked whether there was a reason he couldn’t return to Honduras, Angel told the judge, “My mom and almost my entire family are here. It’s too dangerous to go back.”

But that wasn’t enough for the judge, who told the boy he did not qualify for asylum. “Would you like to request voluntary departure, or should I issue a removal order?” The judge asked.

“I don’t know,” Angel replied before bursting into tears. He stared ahead stoically and continued to cry, eventually saying: “I have no one. I have nothing.”

https://www.kdrv.com/news/social/exclusive-inside-the-texas-courtroom-where-toddlers-face-immigration-judges/article_255cdb84-f153-5c95-8df9-f0c2e66ae810.html

Nah but Arts says we should give Trump the benefit of the doubt…

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Date: 2/10/2026 22:44:17
From: Arts
ID: 2435639
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

Migrant children as young as 2 are showing up at immigration courts nationwide, many without attorneys, to make their case to stay in the US and avoid deportation.
Inside the immigration court in Harlingen, Texas, on Monday, caseworkers quietly explained to the minors who everyone was — from the interpreter and secretary to the judge in a black robe.

Most of the children, dressed formally with neatly styled hair, waited impatiently for the judge. Among the first to appear before the judge was a 13-year-old Honduran boy named Angel. He didn’t have an attorney.

Asked whether there was a reason he couldn’t return to Honduras, Angel told the judge, “My mom and almost my entire family are here. It’s too dangerous to go back.”

But that wasn’t enough for the judge, who told the boy he did not qualify for asylum. “Would you like to request voluntary departure, or should I issue a removal order?” The judge asked.

“I don’t know,” Angel replied before bursting into tears. He stared ahead stoically and continued to cry, eventually saying: “I have no one. I have nothing.”

https://www.kdrv.com/news/social/exclusive-inside-the-texas-courtroom-where-toddlers-face-immigration-judges/article_255cdb84-f153-5c95-8df9-f0c2e66ae810.html

Nah but Arts says we should give Trump the benefit of the doubt…

I didn’t say that at all.

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Date: 2/10/2026 22:52:49
From: party_pants
ID: 2435640
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Migrant children as young as 2 are showing up at immigration courts nationwide, many without attorneys, to make their case to stay in the US and avoid deportation.
Inside the immigration court in Harlingen, Texas, on Monday, caseworkers quietly explained to the minors who everyone was — from the interpreter and secretary to the judge in a black robe.

Most of the children, dressed formally with neatly styled hair, waited impatiently for the judge. Among the first to appear before the judge was a 13-year-old Honduran boy named Angel. He didn’t have an attorney.

Asked whether there was a reason he couldn’t return to Honduras, Angel told the judge, “My mom and almost my entire family are here. It’s too dangerous to go back.”

But that wasn’t enough for the judge, who told the boy he did not qualify for asylum. “Would you like to request voluntary departure, or should I issue a removal order?” The judge asked.

“I don’t know,” Angel replied before bursting into tears. He stared ahead stoically and continued to cry, eventually saying: “I have no one. I have nothing.”

https://www.kdrv.com/news/social/exclusive-inside-the-texas-courtroom-where-toddlers-face-immigration-judges/article_255cdb84-f153-5c95-8df9-f0c2e66ae810.html

Well that’s disturbing..

The cruelty is the point etc. I don’t know how the judges could live with themselves if this is what they do all day. There is law and there is justice. They are separate constructs. In an ideal world the law should be framed to promote justice. This is what happens when they diverge. Civilisations cannot endure systemic injustice of this sort.

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Date: 2/10/2026 22:59:09
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435641
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

Wow.

I just want to see him locked up.

I want to see him and his whole crowd kicked out of office at the earliest opportunity, before he drags the world into ruin. There is no legal process for this to happen.

There is a 100% legal process for this very thing, it’s called a presidential election.

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Date: 2/10/2026 23:05:18
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435642
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


dv said:

Migrant children as young as 2 are showing up at immigration courts nationwide, many without attorneys, to make their case to stay in the US and avoid deportation.
Inside the immigration court in Harlingen, Texas, on Monday, caseworkers quietly explained to the minors who everyone was — from the interpreter and secretary to the judge in a black robe.

Most of the children, dressed formally with neatly styled hair, waited impatiently for the judge. Among the first to appear before the judge was a 13-year-old Honduran boy named Angel. He didn’t have an attorney.

Asked whether there was a reason he couldn’t return to Honduras, Angel told the judge, “My mom and almost my entire family are here. It’s too dangerous to go back.”

But that wasn’t enough for the judge, who told the boy he did not qualify for asylum. “Would you like to request voluntary departure, or should I issue a removal order?” The judge asked.

“I don’t know,” Angel replied before bursting into tears. He stared ahead stoically and continued to cry, eventually saying: “I have no one. I have nothing.”

https://www.kdrv.com/news/social/exclusive-inside-the-texas-courtroom-where-toddlers-face-immigration-judges/article_255cdb84-f153-5c95-8df9-f0c2e66ae810.html

Well that’s disturbing..

The cruelty is the point etc. I don’t know how the judges could live with themselves if this is what they do all day. There is law and there is justice. They are separate constructs. In an ideal world the law should be framed to promote justice. This is what happens when they diverge. Civilisations cannot endure systemic injustice of this sort.

To be clear, the reason they don’t have attorneys is that these are not “legal” proceedings; inasmuch as the courts are not assessing if these individuals have broken any laws, they are procedural-only hearings that determine immigration status.

All this notwithstanding, they clearly deserve to have advocates assist them.

No saying that it makes it right, but don’t forget, immigration policy here isn’t all that different.

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Date: 2/10/2026 23:07:33
From: kii
ID: 2435643
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I just want to see him locked up.

I want to see him and his whole crowd kicked out of office at the earliest opportunity, before he drags the world into ruin. There is no legal process for this to happen.

There is a 100% legal process for this very thing, it’s called a presidential election.

😆😆😆😆🙄

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Date: 2/10/2026 23:08:32
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435644
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


dv said:

Migrant children as young as 2 are showing up at immigration courts nationwide, many without attorneys, to make their case to stay in the US and avoid deportation.
Inside the immigration court in Harlingen, Texas, on Monday, caseworkers quietly explained to the minors who everyone was — from the interpreter and secretary to the judge in a black robe.

Most of the children, dressed formally with neatly styled hair, waited impatiently for the judge. Among the first to appear before the judge was a 13-year-old Honduran boy named Angel. He didn’t have an attorney.

Asked whether there was a reason he couldn’t return to Honduras, Angel told the judge, “My mom and almost my entire family are here. It’s too dangerous to go back.”

But that wasn’t enough for the judge, who told the boy he did not qualify for asylum. “Would you like to request voluntary departure, or should I issue a removal order?” The judge asked.

“I don’t know,” Angel replied before bursting into tears. He stared ahead stoically and continued to cry, eventually saying: “I have no one. I have nothing.”

https://www.kdrv.com/news/social/exclusive-inside-the-texas-courtroom-where-toddlers-face-immigration-judges/article_255cdb84-f153-5c95-8df9-f0c2e66ae810.html

Well that’s disturbing..

The cruelty is the point etc. I don’t know how the judges could live with themselves if this is what they do all day. There is law and there is justice. They are separate constructs. In an ideal world the law should be framed to promote justice. This is what happens when they diverge. Civilisations cannot endure systemic injustice of this sort.

That’s precisely it: the cruelty is the point.

It’s what the voters (most of them) wanted. They wanted to see people who look different to them, who speak differently to them, who they think are less than they are themselves, who they don’t know, who they don’t understand, who they do fear, treated unfairly and cruelly. It makes them feel good because it’s happening to people who they’re afraid of, in general. They feel that they’re being defended against peoplewho might want to change how things are in the US.

For some, the biggest disappointment of Trump’s presidencies is that he still hasn’t made it legitimate to call people ‘niggers’ again.

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Date: 2/10/2026 23:12:31
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435645
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

Migrant children as young as 2 are showing up at immigration courts nationwide, many without attorneys, to make their case to stay in the US and avoid deportation.
Inside the immigration court in Harlingen, Texas, on Monday, caseworkers quietly explained to the minors who everyone was — from the interpreter and secretary to the judge in a black robe.

Most of the children, dressed formally with neatly styled hair, waited impatiently for the judge. Among the first to appear before the judge was a 13-year-old Honduran boy named Angel. He didn’t have an attorney.

Asked whether there was a reason he couldn’t return to Honduras, Angel told the judge, “My mom and almost my entire family are here. It’s too dangerous to go back.”

But that wasn’t enough for the judge, who told the boy he did not qualify for asylum. “Would you like to request voluntary departure, or should I issue a removal order?” The judge asked.

“I don’t know,” Angel replied before bursting into tears. He stared ahead stoically and continued to cry, eventually saying: “I have no one. I have nothing.”

https://www.kdrv.com/news/social/exclusive-inside-the-texas-courtroom-where-toddlers-face-immigration-judges/article_255cdb84-f153-5c95-8df9-f0c2e66ae810.html

Well that’s disturbing..

The cruelty is the point etc. I don’t know how the judges could live with themselves if this is what they do all day. There is law and there is justice. They are separate constructs. In an ideal world the law should be framed to promote justice. This is what happens when they diverge. Civilisations cannot endure systemic injustice of this sort.

To be clear, the reason they don’t have attorneys is that these are not “legal” proceedings; inasmuch as the courts are not assessing if these individuals have broken any laws, they are procedural-only hearings that determine immigration status.

All this notwithstanding, they clearly deserve to have advocates assist them.

No saying that it makes it right, but don’t forget, immigration policy here isn’t all that different.

There’s a right to state-appointed counsel, but only for offences where you would actually face prison time, or a suspended sentence – see the Sixth Amendment.

Because these are ‘administrative’ hearings, and don’t involve felony or misdemeanor charges (being in the US without permission is a ‘civil’ offence), the right to legal advice is not applicable.

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Date: 2/10/2026 23:13:59
From: party_pants
ID: 2435647
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I just want to see him locked up.

I want to see him and his whole crowd kicked out of office at the earliest opportunity, before he drags the world into ruin. There is no legal process for this to happen.

There is a 100% legal process for this very thing, it’s called a presidential election.

Humanity can’t wait that long.

The world is on the precipice of collapse and ruin with his stupid war in Iran. The whole world economy is only running off oil reserves being drawn down to offset the lack of supply coming out of the Persian Gulf. And it is not just oil, it is helium and fertilisers and sulfuric acid and aluminium and all sort of other critical products. When these things run out the world economy will collapse through lack of supply. Millions will die of starvation.

Then we have the granddaddy of all El Nino events looming on the horizon. The UN-GA meeting last week should have been all about a co-ordinated response to this potential disaster.

Fuck America and Fuck Israel. And fuck their pretend democracy.

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Date: 2/10/2026 23:19:46
From: party_pants
ID: 2435648
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

I want to see him and his whole crowd kicked out of office at the earliest opportunity, before he drags the world into ruin. There is no legal process for this to happen.

There is a 100% legal process for this very thing, it’s called a presidential election.

Humanity can’t wait that long.

The world is on the precipice of collapse and ruin with his stupid war in Iran. The whole world economy is only running off oil reserves being drawn down to offset the lack of supply coming out of the Persian Gulf. And it is not just oil, it is helium and fertilisers and sulfuric acid and aluminium and all sort of other critical products. When these things run out the world economy will collapse through lack of supply. Millions will die of starvation.

Then we have the granddaddy of all El Nino events looming on the horizon. The UN-GA meeting last week should have been all about a co-ordinated response to this potential disaster.

Fuck America and Fuck Israel. And fuck their pretend democracy.

and Fuck Russia too.

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Date: 2/10/2026 23:30:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2435649
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Alleged:

Note dates:


What do the dates refer to?

I presume that’s when the posts were made.

I also presume that’s how old Twitter posts look these days on X.

Alternatively someone may have just made them up.

I’ll go with your third option.

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Date: 2/10/2026 23:33:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2435650
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

There is a 100% legal process for this very thing, it’s called a presidential election.

Humanity can’t wait that long.

The world is on the precipice of collapse and ruin with his stupid war in Iran. The whole world economy is only running off oil reserves being drawn down to offset the lack of supply coming out of the Persian Gulf. And it is not just oil, it is helium and fertilisers and sulfuric acid and aluminium and all sort of other critical products. When these things run out the world economy will collapse through lack of supply. Millions will die of starvation.

Then we have the granddaddy of all El Nino events looming on the horizon. The UN-GA meeting last week should have been all about a co-ordinated response to this potential disaster.

Fuck America and Fuck Israel. And fuck their pretend democracy.

and Fuck Russia too.

We are more democratic than they are. Points in three different directions.

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Date: 2/10/2026 23:35:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435651
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

What do the dates refer to?

I presume that’s when the posts were made.

I also presume that’s how old Twitter posts look these days on X.

Alternatively someone may have just made them up.

I’ll go with your third option.

Snopes says they’re legit.

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Date: 2/10/2026 23:36:51
From: party_pants
ID: 2435652
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

Migrant children as young as 2 are showing up at immigration courts nationwide, many without attorneys, to make their case to stay in the US and avoid deportation.
Inside the immigration court in Harlingen, Texas, on Monday, caseworkers quietly explained to the minors who everyone was — from the interpreter and secretary to the judge in a black robe.

Most of the children, dressed formally with neatly styled hair, waited impatiently for the judge. Among the first to appear before the judge was a 13-year-old Honduran boy named Angel. He didn’t have an attorney.

Asked whether there was a reason he couldn’t return to Honduras, Angel told the judge, “My mom and almost my entire family are here. It’s too dangerous to go back.”

But that wasn’t enough for the judge, who told the boy he did not qualify for asylum. “Would you like to request voluntary departure, or should I issue a removal order?” The judge asked.

“I don’t know,” Angel replied before bursting into tears. He stared ahead stoically and continued to cry, eventually saying: “I have no one. I have nothing.”

https://www.kdrv.com/news/social/exclusive-inside-the-texas-courtroom-where-toddlers-face-immigration-judges/article_255cdb84-f153-5c95-8df9-f0c2e66ae810.html

Well that’s disturbing..

The cruelty is the point etc. I don’t know how the judges could live with themselves if this is what they do all day. There is law and there is justice. They are separate constructs. In an ideal world the law should be framed to promote justice. This is what happens when they diverge. Civilisations cannot endure systemic injustice of this sort.

To be clear, the reason they don’t have attorneys is that these are not “legal” proceedings; inasmuch as the courts are not assessing if these individuals have broken any laws, they are procedural-only hearings that determine immigration status.

All this notwithstanding, they clearly deserve to have advocates assist them.

No saying that it makes it right, but don’t forget, immigration policy here isn’t all that different.

You have missed my point entirely, which is the separation of law and justice. This might be lawful, but it is unjust to these children.

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Date: 3/10/2026 00:58:28
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435657
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

I want to see him and his whole crowd kicked out of office at the earliest opportunity, before he drags the world into ruin. There is no legal process for this to happen.

There is a 100% legal process for this very thing, it’s called a presidential election.

Humanity can’t wait that long.

The world is on the precipice of collapse and ruin with his stupid war in Iran. The whole world economy is only running off oil reserves being drawn down to offset the lack of supply coming out of the Persian Gulf. And it is not just oil, it is helium and fertilisers and sulfuric acid and aluminium and all sort of other critical products. When these things run out the world economy will collapse through lack of supply. Millions will die of starvation.

Then we have the granddaddy of all El Nino events looming on the horizon. The UN-GA meeting last week should have been all about a co-ordinated response to this potential disaster.

Fuck America and Fuck Israel. And fuck their pretend democracy.

I’m sure you could get some nice long odds on that prediction. Feels like an easy way to make a buck before the end of the world.

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Date: 3/10/2026 01:49:16
From: party_pants
ID: 2435658
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

There is a 100% legal process for this very thing, it’s called a presidential election.

Humanity can’t wait that long.

The world is on the precipice of collapse and ruin with his stupid war in Iran. The whole world economy is only running off oil reserves being drawn down to offset the lack of supply coming out of the Persian Gulf. And it is not just oil, it is helium and fertilisers and sulfuric acid and aluminium and all sort of other critical products. When these things run out the world economy will collapse through lack of supply. Millions will die of starvation.

Then we have the granddaddy of all El Nino events looming on the horizon. The UN-GA meeting last week should have been all about a co-ordinated response to this potential disaster.

Fuck America and Fuck Israel. And fuck their pretend democracy.

I’m sure you could get some nice long odds on that prediction. Feels like an easy way to make a buck before the end of the world.

I don’t want to appear rude, but sometimes it is unavoidable.

Once again you don’t address the points made, and you reply with some glib bullshit about making money betting on a worst-case scenario. This does not address the issue. The world economy is running on borrowed time, when the oil reserves run out we’re all fucked. This all down to Israel and USAlia.

Millions will die.

We in WA will survive because we will “shut the borders” and look after ourselves first. Ahead of the rest of you on the east coast, and ahead of the rest of the world. Covid had proved that. We have enough food and energy to take care of the local population. I am concerned about the millions who will die in the rest of the world that rely on food and energy imports.

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Date: 3/10/2026 02:39:44
From: kii
ID: 2435663
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

Humanity can’t wait that long.

The world is on the precipice of collapse and ruin with his stupid war in Iran. The whole world economy is only running off oil reserves being drawn down to offset the lack of supply coming out of the Persian Gulf. And it is not just oil, it is helium and fertilisers and sulfuric acid and aluminium and all sort of other critical products. When these things run out the world economy will collapse through lack of supply. Millions will die of starvation.

Then we have the granddaddy of all El Nino events looming on the horizon. The UN-GA meeting last week should have been all about a co-ordinated response to this potential disaster.

Fuck America and Fuck Israel. And fuck their pretend democracy.

I’m sure you could get some nice long odds on that prediction. Feels like an easy way to make a buck before the end of the world.

I don’t want to appear rude, but sometimes it is unavoidable.

Once again you don’t address the points made, and you reply with some glib bullshit about making money betting on a worst-case scenario. This does not address the issue. The world economy is running on borrowed time, when the oil reserves run out we’re all fucked. This all down to Israel and USAlia.

Millions will die.

We in WA will survive because we will “shut the borders” and look after ourselves first. Ahead of the rest of you on the east coast, and ahead of the rest of the world. Covid had proved that. We have enough food and energy to take care of the local population. I am concerned about the millions who will die in the rest of the world that rely on food and energy imports.

That’s how diddly-squat always responds.
Your other point, about WA, so I should stay here and not head back to the east coast?

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Date: 3/10/2026 02:56:09
From: party_pants
ID: 2435667
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m sure you could get some nice long odds on that prediction. Feels like an easy way to make a buck before the end of the world.

I don’t want to appear rude, but sometimes it is unavoidable.

Once again you don’t address the points made, and you reply with some glib bullshit about making money betting on a worst-case scenario. This does not address the issue. The world economy is running on borrowed time, when the oil reserves run out we’re all fucked. This all down to Israel and USAlia.

Millions will die.

We in WA will survive because we will “shut the borders” and look after ourselves first. Ahead of the rest of you on the east coast, and ahead of the rest of the world. Covid had proved that. We have enough food and energy to take care of the local population. I am concerned about the millions who will die in the rest of the world that rely on food and energy imports.

That’s how diddly-squat always responds.
Your other point, about WA, so I should stay here and not head back to the east coast?

“All comments are general information only and do not constitute personal financial advice”

We (me and the mouse up my arse) hope that the worst case scenario can be avoided. But we (MATMUMA) are further of the opinion that the trajectory to worst case is a straight line, so avoiding it is a matter of stepping off the travelator ASAP. Not waiting two years for the next US erection.

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Date: 3/10/2026 10:34:59
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435703
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

Humanity can’t wait that long.

The world is on the precipice of collapse and ruin with his stupid war in Iran. The whole world economy is only running off oil reserves being drawn down to offset the lack of supply coming out of the Persian Gulf. And it is not just oil, it is helium and fertilisers and sulfuric acid and aluminium and all sort of other critical products. When these things run out the world economy will collapse through lack of supply. Millions will die of starvation.

Then we have the granddaddy of all El Nino events looming on the horizon. The UN-GA meeting last week should have been all about a co-ordinated response to this potential disaster.

Fuck America and Fuck Israel. And fuck their pretend democracy.

I’m sure you could get some nice long odds on that prediction. Feels like an easy way to make a buck before the end of the world.

I don’t want to appear rude, but sometimes it is unavoidable.

Once again you don’t address the points made, and you reply with some glib bullshit about making money betting on a worst-case scenario. This does not address the issue. The world economy is running on borrowed time, when the oil reserves run out we’re all fucked. This all down to Israel and USAlia.

Millions will die.

We in WA will survive because we will “shut the borders” and look after ourselves first. Ahead of the rest of you on the east coast, and ahead of the rest of the world. Covid had proved that. We have enough food and energy to take care of the local population. I am concerned about the millions who will die in the rest of the world that rely on food and energy imports.

Not sure I’m the one making the glib predictions. I honestly don’t believe that the world economy is going to collapse (what ever that means).

There will be a correction in US politics, it’s just going to take a few more years before it happens is all. In the meantime there is a good chance that the Dems will take control of the House and there is even a chance the Dems will gain control of the Senate. This will, to some extent means that greater levels of scrutiny will be placed on the actions of the current administration and hopefully this will help shine a light on some of the corruption that has taken place.

It’s going to be ok.

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Date: 3/10/2026 10:36:46
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435705
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


kii said:

party_pants said:

I don’t want to appear rude, but sometimes it is unavoidable.

Once again you don’t address the points made, and you reply with some glib bullshit about making money betting on a worst-case scenario. This does not address the issue. The world economy is running on borrowed time, when the oil reserves run out we’re all fucked. This all down to Israel and USAlia.

Millions will die.

We in WA will survive because we will “shut the borders” and look after ourselves first. Ahead of the rest of you on the east coast, and ahead of the rest of the world. Covid had proved that. We have enough food and energy to take care of the local population. I am concerned about the millions who will die in the rest of the world that rely on food and energy imports.

That’s how diddly-squat always responds.
Your other point, about WA, so I should stay here and not head back to the east coast?

“All comments are general information only and do not constitute personal financial advice”

We (me and the mouse up my arse) hope that the worst case scenario can be avoided. But we (MATMUMA) are further of the opinion that the trajectory to worst case is a straight line, so avoiding it is a matter of stepping off the travelator ASAP. Not waiting two years for the next US erection.

It only two years ago that people were saying there wouldn’t be any mid term elections.. yet, here we are.

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Date: 3/10/2026 10:41:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2435706
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

kii said:

That’s how diddly-squat always responds.
Your other point, about WA, so I should stay here and not head back to the east coast?

“All comments are general information only and do not constitute personal financial advice”

We (me and the mouse up my arse) hope that the worst case scenario can be avoided. But we (MATMUMA) are further of the opinion that the trajectory to worst case is a straight line, so avoiding it is a matter of stepping off the travelator ASAP. Not waiting two years for the next US erection.

It only two years ago that people were saying there wouldn’t be any mid term elections.. yet, here we are.

The first time Trump was elected, When asked about Trump, Al Gore said, “Never underestimate America”

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Date: 3/10/2026 10:41:29
From: dv
ID: 2435707
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Terrible though all aspects of this Cornell case are, the thing that has surprised me most is that, in New York State, heavily intoxicated people are considered able to consent to sex as long as they voluntarily got intoxicated.
In Australia and much of the US, heavily intoxicated people are considered unable to give consent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/nyregion/new-york-rape-laws.html

Attempts to correct this defect in the law have not managed to get past New York State Assembly.

And of course

https://www.threads.com/share/BAKwAGckW5/

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Date: 3/10/2026 10:46:25
From: buffy
ID: 2435709
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

kii said:

That’s how diddly-squat always responds.
Your other point, about WA, so I should stay here and not head back to the east coast?

“All comments are general information only and do not constitute personal financial advice”

We (me and the mouse up my arse) hope that the worst case scenario can be avoided. But we (MATMUMA) are further of the opinion that the trajectory to worst case is a straight line, so avoiding it is a matter of stepping off the travelator ASAP. Not waiting two years for the next US erection.

It only two years ago that people were saying there wouldn’t be any mid term elections.. yet, here we are.

They haven’t happened yet.

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Date: 3/10/2026 10:48:52
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435710
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

“All comments are general information only and do not constitute personal financial advice”

We (me and the mouse up my arse) hope that the worst case scenario can be avoided. But we (MATMUMA) are further of the opinion that the trajectory to worst case is a straight line, so avoiding it is a matter of stepping off the travelator ASAP. Not waiting two years for the next US erection.

It only two years ago that people were saying there wouldn’t be any mid term elections.. yet, here we are.

They haven’t happened yet.

Fair point.. that said I think there is a better chance the mid term elections will happen than there currently is that the Dems will take the House.

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Date: 3/10/2026 10:56:31
From: buffy
ID: 2435711
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


buffy said:

diddly-squat said:

It only two years ago that people were saying there wouldn’t be any mid term elections.. yet, here we are.

They haven’t happened yet.

Fair point.. that said I think there is a better chance the mid term elections will happen than there currently is that the Dems will take the House.

It’s still possible to mobilize the bullies to the polling places.

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Date: 3/10/2026 11:22:32
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435717
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


diddly-squat said:

buffy said:

They haven’t happened yet.

Fair point.. that said I think there is a better chance the mid term elections will happen than there currently is that the Dems will take the House.

It’s still possible to mobilize the bullies to the polling places.

Maybe, won’t stop the election from happening though.

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Date: 3/10/2026 11:23:00
From: dv
ID: 2435718
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.threads.com/share/BAXY3kTSnq/

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Date: 3/10/2026 11:24:30
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2435719
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


diddly-squat said:

buffy said:

They haven’t happened yet.

Fair point.. that said I think there is a better chance the mid term elections will happen than there currently is that the Dems will take the House.

It’s still possible to mobilize the bullies to the polling places.

I did say fair or not at all.

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Date: 3/10/2026 11:35:05
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435725
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

diddly-squat said:

Fair point.. that said I think there is a better chance the mid term elections will happen than there currently is that the Dems will take the House.

It’s still possible to mobilize the bullies to the polling places.

I did say fair or not at all.

I mean I wouldn’t fall off my chair if we saw ICE detaining people in, or around, polling locations. Not sure it will change the result though.

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Date: 3/10/2026 12:13:45
From: kii
ID: 2435734
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

James Talarico’s campaign has put out this amazing ad for Ken Paxton. Plus the phone number works.

Paxton is the attorney General of Texas. He is the Republican Party nominee in the 2026 United States Senate election in Texas.

Link

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Date: 3/10/2026 12:37:22
From: party_pants
ID: 2435739
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m sure you could get some nice long odds on that prediction. Feels like an easy way to make a buck before the end of the world.

I don’t want to appear rude, but sometimes it is unavoidable.

Once again you don’t address the points made, and you reply with some glib bullshit about making money betting on a worst-case scenario. This does not address the issue. The world economy is running on borrowed time, when the oil reserves run out we’re all fucked. This all down to Israel and USAlia.

Millions will die.

We in WA will survive because we will “shut the borders” and look after ourselves first. Ahead of the rest of you on the east coast, and ahead of the rest of the world. Covid had proved that. We have enough food and energy to take care of the local population. I am concerned about the millions who will die in the rest of the world that rely on food and energy imports.

Not sure I’m the one making the glib predictions. I honestly don’t believe that the world economy is going to collapse (what ever that means).

There will be a correction in US politics, it’s just going to take a few more years before it happens is all. In the meantime there is a good chance that the Dems will take control of the House and there is even a chance the Dems will gain control of the Senate. This will, to some extent means that greater levels of scrutiny will be placed on the actions of the current administration and hopefully this will help shine a light on some of the corruption that has taken place.

It’s going to be ok.

You need to open your eyes to the economic disaster that will happen if the Gulf doesn’t resume normal trade. It is not just oil, it is lots of other key industrial and agricultural inputs too. Things that are not readily substitutable or available from other sources. If the stockpiles run out there will be shortages. Things won’t get made. Food won’t be grown. Businesses will go broke and lay off workers. People in poor countries that rely on imported food will starve. There will be high unemployment and high inflation, and high interest rates which will make even more companies go bust.

Things will not be OK if this happens. You are sleep-walking backwards into danger. You need to wake up and see how bad this could be.

this all preventable. Trump needs to stop attacking Iran. Israel needs to stop attacking Iran. It would be nice if Russia stopped attacking Ukraine too.

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Date: 3/10/2026 13:01:18
From: party_pants
ID: 2435740
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


buffy said:

diddly-squat said:

It only two years ago that people were saying there wouldn’t be any mid term elections.. yet, here we are.

They haven’t happened yet.

Fair point.. that said I think there is a better chance the mid term elections will happen than there currently is that the Dems will take the House.

Let’s see if Trump accepts the result with good grace if things don’t turn out his way.

Last time he lost an election he disputed the result and incited a mob to storm the Congress to try and physically stop them from confirming it. Then he pardoned all the rioters.

Answer me this: if Trump loses control of the Congress at the mid-terms, and the new Congress has enough votes to impeach him and legally remove him from office – do you think he will respect this outcome without resort to violence?

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Date: 3/10/2026 13:08:56
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2435741
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Elon Musk has rejoined team Trump. He rigged the 2024 election, let’s see what he can do in the next month.

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Date: 3/10/2026 13:14:18
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435742
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

buffy said:

They haven’t happened yet.

Fair point.. that said I think there is a better chance the mid term elections will happen than there currently is that the Dems will take the House.

Let’s see if Trump accepts the result with good grace if things don’t turn out his way.

Last time he lost an election he disputed the result and incited a mob to storm the Congress to try and physically stop them from confirming it. Then he pardoned all the rioters.

Answer me this: if Trump loses control of the Congress at the mid-terms, and the new Congress has enough votes to impeach him and legally remove him from office – do you think he will respect this outcome without resort to violence?

Firstly, I think it’s unlikely that Dems will end up with a super majority. Secondly, I think trump will dispute the mid term results and try to push through greater electoral reforms in advance of the 2028 presidential elections in the form of executive orders but without congress that will be hard.

But ultimately I think Trump will focus his last two years on enriching himself as much as possible because largely; elections are no longer one of his primary concerns.

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Date: 3/10/2026 13:15:10
From: Michael V
ID: 2435743
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

I don’t want to appear rude, but sometimes it is unavoidable.

Once again you don’t address the points made, and you reply with some glib bullshit about making money betting on a worst-case scenario. This does not address the issue. The world economy is running on borrowed time, when the oil reserves run out we’re all fucked. This all down to Israel and USAlia.

Millions will die.

We in WA will survive because we will “shut the borders” and look after ourselves first. Ahead of the rest of you on the east coast, and ahead of the rest of the world. Covid had proved that. We have enough food and energy to take care of the local population. I am concerned about the millions who will die in the rest of the world that rely on food and energy imports.

Not sure I’m the one making the glib predictions. I honestly don’t believe that the world economy is going to collapse (what ever that means).

There will be a correction in US politics, it’s just going to take a few more years before it happens is all. In the meantime there is a good chance that the Dems will take control of the House and there is even a chance the Dems will gain control of the Senate. This will, to some extent means that greater levels of scrutiny will be placed on the actions of the current administration and hopefully this will help shine a light on some of the corruption that has taken place.

It’s going to be ok.

You need to open your eyes to the economic disaster that will happen if the Gulf doesn’t resume normal trade. It is not just oil, it is lots of other key industrial and agricultural inputs too. Things that are not readily substitutable or available from other sources. If the stockpiles run out there will be shortages. Things won’t get made. Food won’t be grown. Businesses will go broke and lay off workers. People in poor countries that rely on imported food will starve. There will be high unemployment and high inflation, and high interest rates which will make even more companies go bust.

Things will not be OK if this happens. You are sleep-walking backwards into danger. You need to wake up and see how bad this could be.

this all preventable. Trump needs to stop attacking Iran. Israel needs to stop attacking Iran. It would be nice if Russia stopped attacking Ukraine too.

Yes.

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Date: 3/10/2026 13:16:14
From: Michael V
ID: 2435744
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Elon Musk has rejoined team Trump. He rigged the 2024 election, let’s see what he can do in the next month.

!!!

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Date: 3/10/2026 13:21:55
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435745
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

I don’t want to appear rude, but sometimes it is unavoidable.

Once again you don’t address the points made, and you reply with some glib bullshit about making money betting on a worst-case scenario. This does not address the issue. The world economy is running on borrowed time, when the oil reserves run out we’re all fucked. This all down to Israel and USAlia.

Millions will die.

We in WA will survive because we will “shut the borders” and look after ourselves first. Ahead of the rest of you on the east coast, and ahead of the rest of the world. Covid had proved that. We have enough food and energy to take care of the local population. I am concerned about the millions who will die in the rest of the world that rely on food and energy imports.

Not sure I’m the one making the glib predictions. I honestly don’t believe that the world economy is going to collapse (what ever that means).

There will be a correction in US politics, it’s just going to take a few more years before it happens is all. In the meantime there is a good chance that the Dems will take control of the House and there is even a chance the Dems will gain control of the Senate. This will, to some extent means that greater levels of scrutiny will be placed on the actions of the current administration and hopefully this will help shine a light on some of the corruption that has taken place.

It’s going to be ok.

You need to open your eyes to the economic disaster that will happen if the Gulf doesn’t resume normal trade. It is not just oil, it is lots of other key industrial and agricultural inputs too. Things that are not readily substitutable or available from other sources. If the stockpiles run out there will be shortages. Things won’t get made. Food won’t be grown. Businesses will go broke and lay off workers. People in poor countries that rely on imported food will starve. There will be high unemployment and high inflation, and high interest rates which will make even more companies go bust.

Things will not be OK if this happens. You are sleep-walking backwards into danger. You need to wake up and see how bad this could be.

this all preventable. Trump needs to stop attacking Iran. Israel needs to stop attacking Iran. It would be nice if Russia stopped attacking Ukraine too.

Of course tensions continue, and flare ups will continue to increase uncertainty, but weekly crude oil exports through the strait reached approximately 12.34 million barrels per day (part of a total 17.92 million b/d across the Middle East) by late September. This equates to about 80% of pre-conflict levels.

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Date: 3/10/2026 13:33:59
From: party_pants
ID: 2435749
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

Not sure I’m the one making the glib predictions. I honestly don’t believe that the world economy is going to collapse (what ever that means).

There will be a correction in US politics, it’s just going to take a few more years before it happens is all. In the meantime there is a good chance that the Dems will take control of the House and there is even a chance the Dems will gain control of the Senate. This will, to some extent means that greater levels of scrutiny will be placed on the actions of the current administration and hopefully this will help shine a light on some of the corruption that has taken place.

It’s going to be ok.

You need to open your eyes to the economic disaster that will happen if the Gulf doesn’t resume normal trade. It is not just oil, it is lots of other key industrial and agricultural inputs too. Things that are not readily substitutable or available from other sources. If the stockpiles run out there will be shortages. Things won’t get made. Food won’t be grown. Businesses will go broke and lay off workers. People in poor countries that rely on imported food will starve. There will be high unemployment and high inflation, and high interest rates which will make even more companies go bust.

Things will not be OK if this happens. You are sleep-walking backwards into danger. You need to wake up and see how bad this could be.

this all preventable. Trump needs to stop attacking Iran. Israel needs to stop attacking Iran. It would be nice if Russia stopped attacking Ukraine too.

Of course tensions continue, and flare ups will continue to increase uncertainty, but weekly crude oil exports through the strait reached approximately 12.34 million barrels per day (part of a total 17.92 million b/d across the Middle East) by late September. This equates to about 80% of pre-conflict levels.

This is only a temporary lull.

once the elections are done in November, Trump will restart the bombing campaign in Iran. With no Congress to stop him until at least January. Iran will close the straits again.

Don’t forget also that the Yemenis are closing the Red Sea to Saudi Arabian oil too. A Russia keeps up the war with Ukraine. All these wars combined are enough to cause severe shortages and knock-on economic impacts.

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Date: 3/10/2026 14:12:27
From: ms spock
ID: 2435752
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

I don’t want to appear rude, but sometimes it is unavoidable.

Once again you don’t address the points made, and you reply with some glib bullshit about making money betting on a worst-case scenario. This does not address the issue. The world economy is running on borrowed time, when the oil reserves run out we’re all fucked. This all down to Israel and USAlia.

Millions will die.

We in WA will survive because we will “shut the borders” and look after ourselves first. Ahead of the rest of you on the east coast, and ahead of the rest of the world. Covid had proved that. We have enough food and energy to take care of the local population. I am concerned about the millions who will die in the rest of the world that rely on food and energy imports.

Not sure I’m the one making the glib predictions. I honestly don’t believe that the world economy is going to collapse (what ever that means).

There will be a correction in US politics, it’s just going to take a few more years before it happens is all. In the meantime there is a good chance that the Dems will take control of the House and there is even a chance the Dems will gain control of the Senate. This will, to some extent means that greater levels of scrutiny will be placed on the actions of the current administration and hopefully this will help shine a light on some of the corruption that has taken place.

It’s going to be ok.

You need to open your eyes to the economic disaster that will happen if the Gulf doesn’t resume normal trade. It is not just oil, it is lots of other key industrial and agricultural inputs too. Things that are not readily substitutable or available from other sources. If the stockpiles run out there will be shortages. Things won’t get made. Food won’t be grown. Businesses will go broke and lay off workers. People in poor countries that rely on imported food will starve. There will be high unemployment and high inflation, and high interest rates which will make even more companies go bust.

Things will not be OK if this happens. You are sleep-walking backwards into danger. You need to wake up and see how bad this could be.

this all preventable. Trump needs to stop attacking Iran. Israel needs to stop attacking Iran. It would be nice if Russia stopped attacking Ukraine too.

Biden was in power as President. For a time Biden had the same powers that SCOTUS gave Trump. He failed to act. If the Democrats had acted the world wouldn’t be in this position now. Sadly, I feel, the time for “correction” has come and gone.

The Republicans could end this today, if they wanted it all to stop. They could impeach Trump. There’s lots of strategies they could do.

The Democrats could take the Mitch McConnell hand book and enact how he obstructed the Democrats for years. (Not the walking corpse strategy. ) They could play hard ball. Something like 60+Democrats did not vote against insider trading in the last few days. So it is not as if they are mobilising to make things difficult for the Republicans or Trump.

Democrats chose Gerry Connolly over AOC and Pam Dingle over Jasmine Crockett.

Gerry Connolly had 4,000 followers on social media. Across her major social media platforms AOC has 28 million followers. Gerry Connolly died from throat cancer that the Democrats knew he had before taking over the position. An important vote was missed due to his death.

It does not seem the Democrats are taking the situation seriously.

When Debbie Dingell beat out Jasmine Crockett. Dingell won the right to managing party’s political messaging. I had to look her up. And I have heard her name twice since. If she did anything it is not cutting through. Jasmine Crockett has been viral multiple times.

The Democrats aren’t putting out their fighters in front.

The Republicans are being cowards and they aren’t even doing the mildest things to obstruct Trump.

I hope that you are right and I am wrong. But I believe that the time for a “correction” by the Dems seems long gone to me. That hope faded with Biden’s inaction. If the Dems failed to act when Biden was president then what can the Dems do now with the House or the Senate? With a President who sees the Constitution as optional?

I fear a lot of folks are in for a shock. The consequences will be grim for vulnerable people and struggling countries.

“Researchers and public health groups estimate that around 700,000 preventable deaths have occurred due to the dismantling and funding cuts to USAID by the Trump administration and the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)” .

Link

Biden didn’t effectively do the basics to combat Bird flu and that’s not even being covered in detail anymore. There is no reporting from the CDC. No one knows what is going on.

The army have a technical term for it. “Cluster fuck”.

I slept on my glasses and broke the arms off them so I can’t see that well, so excuse all my errors.
I have to find some gaffer tape so I can stick the arms back on to use them.

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Date: 3/10/2026 14:16:32
From: ms spock
ID: 2435753
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

buffy said:

They haven’t happened yet.

Fair point.. that said I think there is a better chance the mid term elections will happen than there currently is that the Dems will take the House.

Let’s see if Trump accepts the result with good grace if things don’t turn out his way.

Last time he lost an election he disputed the result and incited a mob to storm the Congress to try and physically stop them from confirming it. Then he pardoned all the rioters.

Answer me this: if Trump loses control of the Congress at the mid-terms, and the new Congress has enough votes to impeach him and legally remove him from office – do you think he will respect this outcome without resort to violence?

There has been a lot of removal of voter drop boxes.

10 million American voters voted for Harris and their votes were not counted in the 2024 elections. See Greg Palast’s documentary “Vigilantes Inc” free on YouTube.

Trump did a dry run with 60 court cases. All failed but one part on a technicality.

Nathan Taylor from Election Truth Alliance gave some interesting insights into Nevada voting irregularities including Putin’s Tails.

Voter suppression and racial gerrymandering that Republicans engage in are part of the election processes. John Oliver did some good shows on this.

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Date: 3/10/2026 14:23:20
From: ms spock
ID: 2435754
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Elon Musk has rejoined team Trump. He rigged the 2024 election, let’s see what he can do in the next month.

If you ever find out why Kamala Harris did not ask for recounts please let me know. I am so curious as to what happened there. Greg Palast had his documentary which covered and brought the receipts to all the voter suppression and racial gerrymandering. And she said she would look at the documentary “after” the 2024 election. I found it perplexing.

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Date: 3/10/2026 14:27:38
From: fsm
ID: 2435757
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 3/10/2026 14:40:59
From: Michael V
ID: 2435760
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

fsm said:



Not asleep; bored, so examining the inside of his eyelids.

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Date: 3/10/2026 15:21:43
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435765
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

Fair point.. that said I think there is a better chance the mid term elections will happen than there currently is that the Dems will take the House.

Let’s see if Trump accepts the result with good grace if things don’t turn out his way.

Last time he lost an election he disputed the result and incited a mob to storm the Congress to try and physically stop them from confirming it. Then he pardoned all the rioters.

Answer me this: if Trump loses control of the Congress at the mid-terms, and the new Congress has enough votes to impeach him and legally remove him from office – do you think he will respect this outcome without resort to violence?

10 million American voters voted for Harris and their votes were not counted in the 2024 elections. See Greg Palast’s documentary “Vigilantes Inc” free on YouTube.

This simply isn’t true

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Date: 3/10/2026 16:24:03
From: ms spock
ID: 2435767
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


ms spock said:

party_pants said:

Let’s see if Trump accepts the result with good grace if things don’t turn out his way.

Last time he lost an election he disputed the result and incited a mob to storm the Congress to try and physically stop them from confirming it. Then he pardoned all the rioters.

Answer me this: if Trump loses control of the Congress at the mid-terms, and the new Congress has enough votes to impeach him and legally remove him from office – do you think he will respect this outcome without resort to violence?

10 million American voters voted for Harris and their votes were not counted in the 2024 elections. See Greg Palast’s documentary “Vigilantes Inc” free on YouTube.

This simply isn’t true

Greg Palast is an expert in his area. Watch the documentary. He brings the receipts.

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Date: 3/10/2026 16:40:55
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2435772
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


diddly-squat said:

ms spock said:

10 million American voters voted for Harris and their votes were not counted in the 2024 elections. See Greg Palast’s documentary “Vigilantes Inc” free on YouTube.

This simply isn’t true

Greg Palast is an expert in his area. Watch the documentary. He brings the receipts.

there is no credible evidence to support major voting irregularities in the 2016, 2020 or 2024 presidential elections.

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Date: 3/10/2026 16:41:51
From: esselte
ID: 2435773
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

You need to open your eyes to the economic disaster that will happen if the Gulf doesn’t resume normal trade. It is not just oil, it is lots of other key industrial and agricultural inputs too. Things that are not readily substitutable or available from other sources. If the stockpiles run out there will be shortages. Things won’t get made. Food won’t be grown. Businesses will go broke and lay off workers. People in poor countries that rely on imported food will starve. There will be high unemployment and high inflation, and high interest rates which will make even more companies go bust.

Things will not be OK if this happens. You are sleep-walking backwards into danger. You need to wake up and see how bad this could be.

this all preventable. Trump needs to stop attacking Iran. Israel needs to stop attacking Iran. It would be nice if Russia stopped attacking Ukraine too.

Of course tensions continue, and flare ups will continue to increase uncertainty, but weekly crude oil exports through the strait reached approximately 12.34 million barrels per day (part of a total 17.92 million b/d across the Middle East) by late September. This equates to about 80% of pre-conflict levels.

This is only a temporary lull.

once the elections are done in November, Trump will restart the bombing campaign in Iran. With no Congress to stop him until at least January. Iran will close the straits again.

Don’t forget also that the Yemenis are closing the Red Sea to Saudi Arabian oil too. A Russia keeps up the war with Ukraine. All these wars combined are enough to cause severe shortages and knock-on economic impacts.

I’m pretty sure the Hormuz Strait is effectively closed at the moment, and has been for a while now. The increasing crude oil supplies coming out of the Middle East are being rerouted by pipelines and such, bypassing the Strait.

But whilst crude exports from the Gulf region are back up to pre-Trumper-temper-tantrum levels, exports of refined fuels from that area are still way down. And Ukraine has started blowing up a bunch of Russian refineries. Which means whilst there might be plenty of crude oil, refined products (especially diesel) are looking to be in short supply for some time and the capacity to produce enough refined products is severely diminished. This could certainly lead to a multi-pronged world-wide crises in the near future. Which is lame.

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Date: 3/10/2026 17:21:25
From: dv
ID: 2435785
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Date: 4/10/2026 05:14:44
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2435864
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The coming fight over free speech
The Supreme Court must decide whether to limit the First Amendment or executive power

Oct 1st 2026

On the first day of Donald Trump’s second term, he promised “to immediately stop all government censorship and bring back free speech to America”. Twenty months on, federal judges have ruled against the president in more than 70 cases regarding the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of religion, speech and the press; lower courts have issued judgments on everything from campus protests to the president’s pressure on law firms. Other than a few emergency orders, however, the Supreme Court has yet to weigh in. As the court begins its term on October 5th, that is due to change.

The justices face a surfeit of divisive issues, including whether Arizona can require proof of citizenship from voters, whether a city can sue energy companies over climate change and whether the Second Amendment precludes bans on AR-15-style weapons. But cases on the First Amendment will loom particularly large in this term. Press freedom looks fairly secure. The harder questions arise when the right to free expression runs up against claims of presidential power.

The new term follows a period in which the Supreme Court has been largely friendly to Mr Trump’s pleas, giving him satisfaction in more than two-thirds of 40 emergency applications. However, justices have shown willingness to cross him, too, notably in cases over the deployment of the National Guard, his sweeping tariffs, and his attempts to eliminate birthright citizenship and sack a Federal Reserve governor. In September the court rebuffed another executive order, which would have let the president commandeer mail-in voting ahead of November’s midterm elections. Mr Trump fumed that the justices he had appointed were “merely a shell of their original selves”.

Yet those defeats share a characteristic that may not bode well for plaintiffs challenging Mr Trump’s policies on free expression. Other than Trump v Barbara, the case on birthright citizenship, each of the prominent cases in which the court ruled against the president turned on whether his actions clearly violated congressional statutes. On questions involving the separation of powers, the court has consistently given the presidency broad leeway, either out of fear of provoking a constitutional crisis or a belief that the constitution grants wide authority to the executive branch, in what is called the “unitary executive” theory.

At the same time, Genevieve Lakier, a law professor at the University of Chicago, notes that under John Roberts, the chief justice, the court has also zealously defended rights granted by the First Amendment across presidential administrations. These two imperatives—to assert executive authority and to uphold the First Amendment—are now at odds.

The constitution’s protection of the free press is so explicit that the Supreme Court is likely to disappoint the president in two cases involving the media. The first concerns Mr Trump’s attempt, as a private litigant, to revive a $475m defamation suit against CNN, a news network, for characterising his claims that he won the 2020 election as a “Big Lie”. Formidable obstacles to defamation suits mean that the president’s case will probably fail, either because the Supreme Court refuses to take it or because it rules against him.

The second case involves Mr Trump’s recent attempt to revoke White House credentials for journalists at CNN and two other news organisations, MS NOW and Politico, complaining of “Fake News” and claiming their reporting endangered national security. On September 24th Timothy Kelly, a federal judge appointed by Mr Trump, placed the move on hold for a fortnight. The national-security justification was weak, Judge Kelly wrote, and did not seem to be the president’s “actual motivation”. Mr Trump has said that he would pursue an appeal “almost without question”, assuming Judge Kelly converts a temporary restraining order into a preliminary injunction. If so, the Supreme Court is likely to side with Judge Kelly. Heidi Kitrosser, a law professor at Northwestern University, points out that the government may not exclude select members of the press merely because the president is unhappy with their stories. The national-security claims, she adds, “do not pass the laugh test”.

On other questions of the First Amendment and presidential authority, however, the court’s conservative supermajority may be more open to Mr Trump’s position. Last year the administration cancelled grants to researchers in California from the Environmental Protection Agency, National Science Foundation and other agencies. Federal dollars for projects that promote “diversity, equity, and inclusion”, the government concluded, are “no longer in the public interest and should be terminated”.

Two courts deemed this to be discrimination based on researchers’ views, in violation of the First Amendment, spurring an appeal to the Supreme Court. Having twice split over grant cancellations on its emergency docket, the court may use Trump v Thakur to take up the issue. Ms Lakier points out this would reopen a messy precedent from the 1990s that gave the government some leeway—but not free rein—in deciding which projects to fund. Today’s more conservative court, Ms Lakier reckons, might embrace the position that the conservative Justice Antonin Scalia adopted at the time: when the government opens its purse, it can attach whatever strings it likes.

Another clash likely late in the court’s term is the case of Mahmoud Khalil, a pro-Palestinian activist and green-card holder who was nabbed by federal immigration officers in the lobby of his home near Columbia University last year. Mr Khalil, who faces deportation, says he was targeted for his views. In May the Third Circuit Court of Appeals voted 6-5 not to reconsider an earlier ruling against Mr Khalil; a petition to the Supreme Court is on its way. With lower courts divided, Steve Vladeck of Georgetown University predicts that the justices may require people in Mr Khalil’s position to press their arguments before immigration judges first, rather than in federal district court. Immigration judges, Mr Vladeck says, are “increasingly un-independent” and reflect the agenda of the executive branch. Mr Trump styles himself a champion of free speech. This term may reveal how far the Supreme Court is willing to go to assert that standard.

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2026/10/01/the-coming-fight-over-free-speech

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Date: 4/10/2026 09:11:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2435873
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tennessee prisons chief resigns after bungled execution of Christa Pike

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Date: 4/10/2026 16:50:42
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2435971
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 4/10/2026 16:57:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2435974
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:



His strategy is to talk.

Just talk. Keep talking. Don’t stop talking.

Doesn’t matter what you say, total nonsense, utter drivel, word salad, complete tommy-rot, random words, changes of direction, non-sequiturs, gobbledy-gook, gibberish, babblegab, poppycock, doesn’t matter, just talk for as long as you can.

The more time you can take up talking total shit, the less time there is for anyone to ask embarrassing questions of you, the less time there is for anyone to contradict you, the less time there is that you’re not ‘in control’ of the session.

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Date: 4/10/2026 16:58:09
From: fsm
ID: 2435975
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:



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Date: 4/10/2026 17:07:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 2435982
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:



So far up himself, only his boots can be seen.

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Date: 4/10/2026 18:10:21
From: Michael V
ID: 2436014
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


Spiny Norman said:


So far up himself, only his boots can be seen.

Heh!

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Date: 5/10/2026 21:40:59
From: kii
ID: 2436308
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Dr Bandy Lee deconstructs Trump’s insane Time Magazine interview.

Latest interview with Anthony Davis and Dr Lee.

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Date: 5/10/2026 22:16:28
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2436311
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Dr Bandy Lee deconstructs Trump’s insane Time Magazine interview.

Latest interview with Anthony Davis and Dr Lee.

Haven’t read Dr. Lee’s deconstruct yet (i willl), but my beforehand guess is that somewhere in there she mentions that he’s insecure, desperate for approval, and can’t understand why he isn’t loved by everyone.

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Date: 6/10/2026 11:05:29
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2436375
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

One month to go until the midterm elections, and here are the tipping point Senate races

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Date: 6/10/2026 11:35:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2436381
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


One month to go until the midterm elections, and here are the tipping point Senate races
  • Texas – Talarico {D} leads Paxton {R} by 3.4 points – the demographics in Texas have changed a lot in favour of the Dems but Texas is an R+12 state
  • Maine – Jackson {D} leads Collins {R} by 2.1 points – Collins is closing the gap rapidly, and this could be a problem for Senate control
  • Ohio – Brown {D} leads Husted {R} by 4.2 points
  • Iowa – Turek {D} leads Hinson {R} by 1.3 points – coin flip territory
  • Michigan – El-Sayed {D} leads Rogers {R} by 3.7 points – El-Sayed is steadily widening the gap and this race is somewhat of a limpness test for social progressives
  • Alaska – Peltola {D} leads Sullivan {R} by 3.3 points – Some controversy in this race, but Peltola is a born and bred Alaskan and this may give her the edge.

No-one with two brain cells to rub together would have believed that Americans would put Trump in the White House a second time.

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Date: 6/10/2026 11:46:04
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2436391
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


diddly-squat said:

One month to go until the midterm elections, and here are the tipping point Senate races
  • Texas – Talarico {D} leads Paxton {R} by 3.4 points – the demographics in Texas have changed a lot in favour of the Dems but Texas is an R+12 state
  • Maine – Jackson {D} leads Collins {R} by 2.1 points – Collins is closing the gap rapidly, and this could be a problem for Senate control
  • Ohio – Brown {D} leads Husted {R} by 4.2 points
  • Iowa – Turek {D} leads Hinson {R} by 1.3 points – coin flip territory
  • Michigan – El-Sayed {D} leads Rogers {R} by 3.7 points – El-Sayed is steadily widening the gap and this race is somewhat of a limpness test for social progressives
  • Alaska – Peltola {D} leads Sullivan {R} by 3.3 points – Some controversy in this race, but Peltola is a born and bred Alaskan and this may give her the edge.

No-one with two brain cells to rub together would have believed that Americans would put Trump in the White House a second time.

I think that anyone who was watching the race would have understood it was a very real possibility.

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Date: 6/10/2026 11:53:28
From: Cymek
ID: 2436392
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

One month to go until the midterm elections, and here are the tipping point Senate races
  • Texas – Talarico {D} leads Paxton {R} by 3.4 points – the demographics in Texas have changed a lot in favour of the Dems but Texas is an R+12 state
  • Maine – Jackson {D} leads Collins {R} by 2.1 points – Collins is closing the gap rapidly, and this could be a problem for Senate control
  • Ohio – Brown {D} leads Husted {R} by 4.2 points
  • Iowa – Turek {D} leads Hinson {R} by 1.3 points – coin flip territory
  • Michigan – El-Sayed {D} leads Rogers {R} by 3.7 points – El-Sayed is steadily widening the gap and this race is somewhat of a limpness test for social progressives
  • Alaska – Peltola {D} leads Sullivan {R} by 3.3 points – Some controversy in this race, but Peltola is a born and bred Alaskan and this may give her the edge.

No-one with two brain cells to rub together would have believed that Americans would put Trump in the White House a second time.

I think that anyone who was watching the race would have understood it was a very real possibility.

Trump is a reflection of the grossness and overindulgence of the American people
He appealed to the unenlightened who wanted someone to blame
We have Hanson who appeals to the same type of people.
Pretty sure we can assume fascist leaning politicians will get into power over the next decade or so all over the world.
They can give the disgruntled population someone to blame when in reality the situation is far more complex than a blame game.
Civilisation is showing huge cracks on decent behaviour.

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Date: 6/10/2026 11:55:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2436393
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

One month to go until the midterm elections, and here are the tipping point Senate races
  • Texas – Talarico {D} leads Paxton {R} by 3.4 points – the demographics in Texas have changed a lot in favour of the Dems but Texas is an R+12 state
  • Maine – Jackson {D} leads Collins {R} by 2.1 points – Collins is closing the gap rapidly, and this could be a problem for Senate control
  • Ohio – Brown {D} leads Husted {R} by 4.2 points
  • Iowa – Turek {D} leads Hinson {R} by 1.3 points – coin flip territory
  • Michigan – El-Sayed {D} leads Rogers {R} by 3.7 points – El-Sayed is steadily widening the gap and this race is somewhat of a limpness test for social progressives
  • Alaska – Peltola {D} leads Sullivan {R} by 3.3 points – Some controversy in this race, but Peltola is a born and bred Alaskan and this may give her the edge.

No-one with two brain cells to rub together would have believed that Americans would put Trump in the White House a second time.

I think that anyone who was watching the race would have understood it was a very real possibility.

As i’ve said, it may have been that ‘thinking people’ didn’t factor in the shits-and-giggles element in that election. People who wondered just what would happen if that ratbag did manage to win, and were ok with voting for the experiment.

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:00:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2436394
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

No-one with two brain cells to rub together would have believed that Americans would put Trump in the White House a second time.

I think that anyone who was watching the race would have understood it was a very real possibility.

Trump is a reflection of the grossness and overindulgence of the American people
He appealed to the unenlightened who wanted someone to blame
We have Hanson who appeals to the same type of people.
Pretty sure we can assume fascist leaning politicians will get into power over the next decade or so all over the world.
They can give the disgruntled population someone to blame when in reality the situation is far more complex than a blame game.
Civilisation is showing huge cracks on decent behaviour.

As Dr. Bandy Lee said in the interview that kii linked to last night, there’s an element of the voting population who are always looking for a parent figure.

Someone who they feel will tell them that they’re in the right, it’s ok, it’s the fault of THOSE people, not you, i believe you, i’ll look afteryou, i’ll make sure that those people get taken down afew pegs.

The size of that element varies from time to time, and the biggest influences are the media, and who uses them and how.

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:00:21
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2436395
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

No-one with two brain cells to rub together would have believed that Americans would put Trump in the White House a second time.

I think that anyone who was watching the race would have understood it was a very real possibility.

As i’ve said, it may have been that ‘thinking people’ didn’t factor in the shits-and-giggles element in that election. People who wondered just what would happen if that ratbag did manage to win, and were ok with voting for the experiment.

but I mean, there is no “right” or “wrong” reason to vote for someone.. That’s kind of the way democracy works.

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:03:39
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2436397
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

I think that anyone who was watching the race would have understood it was a very real possibility.

As i’ve said, it may have been that ‘thinking people’ didn’t factor in the shits-and-giggles element in that election. People who wondered just what would happen if that ratbag did manage to win, and were ok with voting for the experiment.

but I mean, there is no “right” or “wrong” reason to vote for someone.. That’s kind of the way democracy works.

I do not necessarily concur.

If someone (me?) stands in voting booth, looks at a name on the ballot, and thinks, ‘i know for sure that this person is a total fuckwit, who will only do untold damage to the community/nation if elected’, and then they have a valid reason to not vote for that person.

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:09:54
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2436400
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

As i’ve said, it may have been that ‘thinking people’ didn’t factor in the shits-and-giggles element in that election. People who wondered just what would happen if that ratbag did manage to win, and were ok with voting for the experiment.

but I mean, there is no “right” or “wrong” reason to vote for someone.. That’s kind of the way democracy works.

I do not necessarily concur.

If someone (me?) stands in voting booth, looks at a name on the ballot, and thinks, ‘i know for sure that this person is a total fuckwit, who will only do untold damage to the community/nation if elected’, and then they have a valid reason to not vote for that person.

Sure, but my point is that “this would be funny to watch” isn’t any less of a valid reason for someone to cast their vote.

The simple fact is that many people thought Trump (despite knowing him as a person) would be a net positive for the country, and that’s why he was elected. Now they will very likely prove incorrect, but that is why we have elections; so people can have a chance to voice their opinions.

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:10:37
From: kii
ID: 2436401
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

diddly-squat said:

I think that anyone who was watching the race would have understood it was a very real possibility.

Trump is a reflection of the grossness and overindulgence of the American people
He appealed to the unenlightened who wanted someone to blame
We have Hanson who appeals to the same type of people.
Pretty sure we can assume fascist leaning politicians will get into power over the next decade or so all over the world.
They can give the disgruntled population someone to blame when in reality the situation is far more complex than a blame game.
Civilisation is showing huge cracks on decent behaviour.

As Dr. Bandy Lee said in the interview that kii linked to last night, there’s an element of the voting population who are always looking for a parent figure.

Someone who they feel will tell them that they’re in the right, it’s ok, it’s the fault of THOSE people, not you, i believe you, i’ll look afteryou, i’ll make sure that those people get taken down afew pegs.

The size of that element varies from time to time, and the biggest influences are the media, and who uses them and how.

The three women in NM I know who supported Trump definitely have issues with their fathers. Absent/authoritarian/abusive/bullies/paranoid ALL the typical macho issues. One in particular idolised her father, the one who literally taped every meeting he had with other people in his workplace at the college. This was way before convenient devices to use when recording people.

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:18:52
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2436404
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

but I mean, there is no “right” or “wrong” reason to vote for someone.. That’s kind of the way democracy works.

I do not necessarily concur.

If someone (me?) stands in voting booth, looks at a name on the ballot, and thinks, ‘i know for sure that this person is a total fuckwit, who will only do untold damage to the community/nation if elected’, and then they have a valid reason to not vote for that person.

Sure, but my point is that “this would be funny to watch” isn’t any less of a valid reason for someone to cast their vote.

The simple fact is that many people thought Trump (despite knowing him as a person) would be a net positive for the country, and that’s why he was elected. Now they will very likely prove incorrect, but that is why we have elections; so people can have a chance to voice their opinions.

We can only hope that majority of American voters now recognise that control of their country by Trump and the Republicans is only goingto make their present poor situation even worse. and that it’s time to use the chance you describe to change that.

And, hope that no-one manages to stop them doing that.

I still say that voting for someone because “this would be funny to watch” is not a valid reason to vote for someone, especially someone who’s already proven to be incompetent if not an actual danger, because you’re not using the opportunity that your society gives you the right way. You’re failing in your civic duty, to use a lofty phrase.

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:28:10
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2436412
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


We can only hope that majority of American voters now recognise that control of their country by Trump and the Republicans is only goingto make their present poor situation even worse. and that it’s time to use the chance you describe to change that.

and it would appear from the current state of the midterm polls that this is happening, and while I acknowledge that the polls are not definitive, they are indicative. It’s clear from the cross-tab data that young people, people of colour, and more specifically, Hispanic people, are leaning towards the Dems and this is what puts states like Texas and Michigan in play for the Dems. This notwithstanding, older people and white people seem to be showing less of a swing, which is what puts states like Maine in the less likely to flip category.

captain_spalding said:


I still say that voting for someone because “this would be funny to watch” is not a valid reason to vote for someone, especially someone who’s already proven to be incompetent if not an actual danger, because you’re not using the opportunity that your society gives you the right way. You’re failing in your civic duty, to use a lofty phrase.

You are talking about what you see as a “morally right” reason, not about what is a “valid” reason – the two are not the same.

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:29:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2436413
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

We can only hope that majority of American voters now recognise that control of their country by Trump and the Republicans is only goingto make their present poor situation even worse. and that it’s time to use the chance you describe to change that.

and it would appear from the current state of the midterm polls that this is happening, and while I acknowledge that the polls are not definitive, they are indicative. It’s clear from the cross-tab data that young people, people of colour, and more specifically, Hispanic people, are leaning towards the Dems and this is what puts states like Texas and Michigan in play for the Dems. This notwithstanding, older people and white people seem to be showing less of a swing, which is what puts states like Maine in the less likely to flip category.

captain_spalding said:


I still say that voting for someone because “this would be funny to watch” is not a valid reason to vote for someone, especially someone who’s already proven to be incompetent if not an actual danger, because you’re not using the opportunity that your society gives you the right way. You’re failing in your civic duty, to use a lofty phrase.

You are talking about what you see as a “morally right” reason, not about what is a “valid” reason – the two are not the same.

Oh, yeah, subjectively it’s valid.

I suppose.

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:49:27
From: buffy
ID: 2436415
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

I do not necessarily concur.

If someone (me?) stands in voting booth, looks at a name on the ballot, and thinks, ‘i know for sure that this person is a total fuckwit, who will only do untold damage to the community/nation if elected’, and then they have a valid reason to not vote for that person.

Sure, but my point is that “this would be funny to watch” isn’t any less of a valid reason for someone to cast their vote.

The simple fact is that many people thought Trump (despite knowing him as a person) would be a net positive for the country, and that’s why he was elected. Now they will very likely prove incorrect, but that is why we have elections; so people can have a chance to voice their opinions.

We can only hope that majority of American voters now recognise that control of their country by Trump and the Republicans is only goingto make their present poor situation even worse. and that it’s time to use the chance you describe to change that.

And, hope that no-one manages to stop them doing that.

I still say that voting for someone because “this would be funny to watch” is not a valid reason to vote for someone, especially someone who’s already proven to be incompetent if not an actual danger, because you’re not using the opportunity that your society gives you the right way. You’re failing in your civic duty, to use a lofty phrase.

Voting is a responsibility. It should be taken seriously. It is not entertainment.

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:54:25
From: buffy
ID: 2436416
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump’s former press secretary Karoline Leavitt joins Fox News as contributor

I thought she left the press secretary job so she could be a 1950s Mom.

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:57:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2436417
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Trump’s former press secretary Karoline Leavitt joins Fox News as contributor

I thought she left the press secretary job so she could be a 1950s Mom.

That’s different media contract.

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:58:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2436418
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

lol

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Date: 6/10/2026 12:59:50
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2436419
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Trump’s former press secretary Karoline Leavitt joins Fox News as contributor

I thought she left the press secretary job so she could be a 1950s Mom.

I think the press secretary role was just a job interview for this.

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Date: 7/10/2026 01:00:36
From: kii
ID: 2436536
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

From Fairview, NC’s Facebook page.

This is a work of photographic genius that deserves to go down in the annals of history. I’m an art historian with a PhD (yes, really) so it’s one thing I do know something about.
Let’s start with the framing. Dan Winters has positioned his subject lower than the lens. At a basic level it’s diminishing the man… no small thing for someone so obsessed with his height.
But it’s bigger than that. think about all the portraits you know of Great Men (they are almost always Great Men)
Statues are set on plinths. Above eye level. So you look up at them.
Or famous images like Washington Crossing the Delaware. Or Napoleon Crossing the Alps. We look up at the figures at the centre of the composition. They’re the embodiment of leadership. We are inspired to believe. To follow.
Now, look at the photo. We are looking down at the subject. His mouth gapes. He’s as lost and directionless as a toddler in a crowd who can’t find his mum.
Or, more aptly, a patient in a dementia ward…
Now, look again.
It’s the eyes that strike you the most.
That’s because the photographer has chosen a very shallow depth of field, which means the pinprick focus on the eyes casts the rest of the subject in a hazy wash. Even the American flag pin on his lapel. His one “mission”… leading the nation… is, symbolically, completely unfocused.
None of this is an accident. Winters made conscious choices when he framed this portrait and chose the settings on his camera.
And the colour saturation…
None of the garish, highly saturated red, white, and blue. Or the glitter of gold. We’re looking at a president who has just wandered out of a crypt.
He is a spectre wrapped in parchment-thin,
ashen skin with a waft of gossamer-thread hair atop a papery scalp. He’s a phantasm with sawdust in his veins and a handful of dust where a heart should be.
But, back on those eyes. If the eyes are, indeed, the windows to the soul, then this man has none…
Trump is wandering through a misty haze. Where is he, even? Who the fuck can tell? He certainly can’t.
There’s no colour. No sunlight. No life. Just pinpricks of light reflected back from the soulless, senseless, rheumy, red-rimmed eyes beneath hooded and desiccated lids.
They say “I am lost. I am confused. I am not long for this world.”
@writtenbymeaghan

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Date: 7/10/2026 01:13:23
From: Kingy
ID: 2436537
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


From Fairview, NC’s Facebook page.

This is a work of photographic genius that deserves to go down in the annals of history. I’m an art historian with a PhD (yes, really) so it’s one thing I do know something about.
Let’s start with the framing. Dan Winters has positioned his subject lower than the lens. At a basic level it’s diminishing the man… no small thing for someone so obsessed with his height.
But it’s bigger than that. think about all the portraits you know of Great Men (they are almost always Great Men)
Statues are set on plinths. Above eye level. So you look up at them.
Or famous images like Washington Crossing the Delaware. Or Napoleon Crossing the Alps. We look up at the figures at the centre of the composition. They’re the embodiment of leadership. We are inspired to believe. To follow.
Now, look at the photo. We are looking down at the subject. His mouth gapes. He’s as lost and directionless as a toddler in a crowd who can’t find his mum.
Or, more aptly, a patient in a dementia ward…
Now, look again.
It’s the eyes that strike you the most.
That’s because the photographer has chosen a very shallow depth of field, which means the pinprick focus on the eyes casts the rest of the subject in a hazy wash. Even the American flag pin on his lapel. His one “mission”… leading the nation… is, symbolically, completely unfocused.
None of this is an accident. Winters made conscious choices when he framed this portrait and chose the settings on his camera.
And the colour saturation…
None of the garish, highly saturated red, white, and blue. Or the glitter of gold. We’re looking at a president who has just wandered out of a crypt.
He is a spectre wrapped in parchment-thin,
ashen skin with a waft of gossamer-thread hair atop a papery scalp. He’s a phantasm with sawdust in his veins and a handful of dust where a heart should be.
But, back on those eyes. If the eyes are, indeed, the windows to the soul, then this man has none…
Trump is wandering through a misty haze. Where is he, even? Who the fuck can tell? He certainly can’t.
There’s no colour. No sunlight. No life. Just pinpricks of light reflected back from the soulless, senseless, rheumy, red-rimmed eyes beneath hooded and desiccated lids.
They say “I am lost. I am confused. I am not long for this world.”
@writtenbymeaghan

Those are the eyes of a snake.

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Date: 7/10/2026 05:54:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2436541
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Kingy said:


kii said:

From Fairview, NC’s Facebook page.

This is a work of photographic genius that deserves to go down in the annals of history. I’m an art historian with a PhD (yes, really) so it’s one thing I do know something about.
Let’s start with the framing. Dan Winters has positioned his subject lower than the lens. At a basic level it’s diminishing the man… no small thing for someone so obsessed with his height.
But it’s bigger than that. think about all the portraits you know of Great Men (they are almost always Great Men)
Statues are set on plinths. Above eye level. So you look up at them.
Or famous images like Washington Crossing the Delaware. Or Napoleon Crossing the Alps. We look up at the figures at the centre of the composition. They’re the embodiment of leadership. We are inspired to believe. To follow.
Now, look at the photo. We are looking down at the subject. His mouth gapes. He’s as lost and directionless as a toddler in a crowd who can’t find his mum.
Or, more aptly, a patient in a dementia ward…
Now, look again.
It’s the eyes that strike you the most.
That’s because the photographer has chosen a very shallow depth of field, which means the pinprick focus on the eyes casts the rest of the subject in a hazy wash. Even the American flag pin on his lapel. His one “mission”… leading the nation… is, symbolically, completely unfocused.
None of this is an accident. Winters made conscious choices when he framed this portrait and chose the settings on his camera.
And the colour saturation…
None of the garish, highly saturated red, white, and blue. Or the glitter of gold. We’re looking at a president who has just wandered out of a crypt.
He is a spectre wrapped in parchment-thin,
ashen skin with a waft of gossamer-thread hair atop a papery scalp. He’s a phantasm with sawdust in his veins and a handful of dust where a heart should be.
But, back on those eyes. If the eyes are, indeed, the windows to the soul, then this man has none…
Trump is wandering through a misty haze. Where is he, even? Who the fuck can tell? He certainly can’t.
There’s no colour. No sunlight. No life. Just pinpricks of light reflected back from the soulless, senseless, rheumy, red-rimmed eyes beneath hooded and desiccated lids.
They say “I am lost. I am confused. I am not long for this world.”
@writtenbymeaghan

Those are the eyes of a snake.

so did the photographer plan all this or is it interpretation

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Date: 7/10/2026 08:17:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2436549
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Kingy said:

kii said:

From Fairview, NC’s Facebook page.

This is a work of photographic genius that deserves to go down in the annals of history. I’m an art historian with a PhD (yes, really) so it’s one thing I do know something about.
Let’s start with the framing. Dan Winters has positioned his subject lower than the lens. At a basic level it’s diminishing the man… no small thing for someone so obsessed with his height.
But it’s bigger than that. think about all the portraits you know of Great Men (they are almost always Great Men)
Statues are set on plinths. Above eye level. So you look up at them.
Or famous images like Washington Crossing the Delaware. Or Napoleon Crossing the Alps. We look up at the figures at the centre of the composition. They’re the embodiment of leadership. We are inspired to believe. To follow.
Now, look at the photo. We are looking down at the subject. His mouth gapes. He’s as lost and directionless as a toddler in a crowd who can’t find his mum.
Or, more aptly, a patient in a dementia ward…
Now, look again.
It’s the eyes that strike you the most.
That’s because the photographer has chosen a very shallow depth of field, which means the pinprick focus on the eyes casts the rest of the subject in a hazy wash. Even the American flag pin on his lapel. His one “mission”… leading the nation… is, symbolically, completely unfocused.
None of this is an accident. Winters made conscious choices when he framed this portrait and chose the settings on his camera.
And the colour saturation…
None of the garish, highly saturated red, white, and blue. Or the glitter of gold. We’re looking at a president who has just wandered out of a crypt.
He is a spectre wrapped in parchment-thin,
ashen skin with a waft of gossamer-thread hair atop a papery scalp. He’s a phantasm with sawdust in his veins and a handful of dust where a heart should be.
But, back on those eyes. If the eyes are, indeed, the windows to the soul, then this man has none…
Trump is wandering through a misty haze. Where is he, even? Who the fuck can tell? He certainly can’t.
There’s no colour. No sunlight. No life. Just pinpricks of light reflected back from the soulless, senseless, rheumy, red-rimmed eyes beneath hooded and desiccated lids.
They say “I am lost. I am confused. I am not long for this world.”
@writtenbymeaghan

Those are the eyes of a snake.

so did the photographer plan all this or is it interpretation

That’s part of what makes good photography an art.

A portrait painter can have the subject sit still for hours, in the same pose, in the same setting and the same light, and finely judge how to transfer what’s seen in the studio to what’s seen on canvas.

A photographer can often set up a great photo, but just as often it’s the ability to spot an unexpected, unplanned opportunity to capture a really impressive and insightful image, and to be quick enough to judge that and record it while it’s there.

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Date: 7/10/2026 08:25:17
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2436550
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Kingy said:

Those are the eyes of a snake.

Yes, and snakes can’t be reasoned with, snakes have no empathy, they have no values or morals, they don’t think the way that we do, they have no idea of the future, they have no concept of consequences, their only allegiance is to themselves, and when they feel threatened, they will lash out, often in a most deadly way.

Definitely, the eyes of a snake.

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Date: 7/10/2026 09:12:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 2436555
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

Kingy said:

Those are the eyes of a snake.

so did the photographer plan all this or is it interpretation

That’s part of what makes good photography an art.

A portrait painter can have the subject sit still for hours, in the same pose, in the same setting and the same light, and finely judge how to transfer what’s seen in the studio to what’s seen on canvas.

A photographer can often set up a great photo, but just as often it’s the ability to spot an unexpected, unplanned opportunity to capture a really impressive and insightful image, and to be quick enough to judge that and record it while it’s there.

Snake eyes or not, he certainly doesn’t look pleased with himself.

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Date: 7/10/2026 09:20:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2436558
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

so did the photographer plan all this or is it interpretation

That’s part of what makes good photography an art.

A portrait painter can have the subject sit still for hours, in the same pose, in the same setting and the same light, and finely judge how to transfer what’s seen in the studio to what’s seen on canvas.

A photographer can often set up a great photo, but just as often it’s the ability to spot an unexpected, unplanned opportunity to capture a really impressive and insightful image, and to be quick enough to judge that and record it while it’s there.

Snake eyes or not, he certainly doesn’t look pleased with himself.

Which reminds me of this song, which has been part of my life for well over 50years:

once before the world began
God was sitting in the sky
he began to get some mud together
o I wonder why

first he made a man
and then he made a woman
mr. Adam and miss Eve
they began to be quite good friends
as I can well believe

o remember that morning
remember that time
take a warning
when you see the sign

Eve was sitting in the garden
when in came a serpent
miss Eve take this apple
give it to your man
give it to your man
I don’t want it

o Adam give it a try
o give it a try

so friends, if you’re travelling
never go taking an apple from a snake
if you do I’ll tell you true
you’re making a big mistake

Incredible String Band

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Date: 7/10/2026 09:50:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 2436560
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

That’s part of what makes good photography an art.

A portrait painter can have the subject sit still for hours, in the same pose, in the same setting and the same light, and finely judge how to transfer what’s seen in the studio to what’s seen on canvas.

A photographer can often set up a great photo, but just as often it’s the ability to spot an unexpected, unplanned opportunity to capture a really impressive and insightful image, and to be quick enough to judge that and record it while it’s there.

Snake eyes or not, he certainly doesn’t look pleased with himself.

Which reminds me of this song, which has been part of my life for well over 50years:

once before the world began
God was sitting in the sky
he began to get some mud together
o I wonder why

first he made a man
and then he made a woman
mr. Adam and miss Eve
they began to be quite good friends
as I can well believe

o remember that morning
remember that time
take a warning
when you see the sign

Eve was sitting in the garden
when in came a serpent
miss Eve take this apple
give it to your man
give it to your man
I don’t want it

o Adam give it a try
o give it a try

so friends, if you’re travelling
never go taking an apple from a snake
if you do I’ll tell you true
you’re making a big mistake

Incredible String Band

Yeah. I know the song well.

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Date: 7/10/2026 09:59:21
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2436561
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Snake eyes or not, he certainly doesn’t look pleased with himself.

Which reminds me of this song, which has been part of my life for well over 50years:

once before the world began
God was sitting in the sky
he began to get some mud together
o I wonder why

first he made a man
and then he made a woman
mr. Adam and miss Eve
they began to be quite good friends
as I can well believe

o remember that morning
remember that time
take a warning
when you see the sign

Eve was sitting in the garden
when in came a serpent
miss Eve take this apple
give it to your man
give it to your man
I don’t want it

o Adam give it a try
o give it a try

so friends, if you’re travelling
never go taking an apple from a snake
if you do I’ll tell you true
you’re making a big mistake

Incredible String Band

Yeah. I know the song well.

What a surprise ;)

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Date: 7/10/2026 10:33:58
From: Michael V
ID: 2436568
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Snake eyes or not, he certainly doesn’t look pleased with himself.

Which reminds me of this song, which has been part of my life for well over 50years:

once before the world began
God was sitting in the sky
he began to get some mud together
o I wonder why

first he made a man
and then he made a woman
mr. Adam and miss Eve
they began to be quite good friends
as I can well believe

o remember that morning
remember that time
take a warning
when you see the sign

Eve was sitting in the garden
when in came a serpent
miss Eve take this apple
give it to your man
give it to your man
I don’t want it

o Adam give it a try
o give it a try

so friends, if you’re travelling
never go taking an apple from a snake
if you do I’ll tell you true
you’re making a big mistake

Incredible String Band

Yeah. I know the song well.

I don’t.

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Date: 7/10/2026 10:54:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 2436575
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Which reminds me of this song, which has been part of my life for well over 50years:

once before the world began
God was sitting in the sky
he began to get some mud together
o I wonder why

first he made a man
and then he made a woman
mr. Adam and miss Eve
they began to be quite good friends
as I can well believe

o remember that morning
remember that time
take a warning
when you see the sign

Eve was sitting in the garden
when in came a serpent
miss Eve take this apple
give it to your man
give it to your man
I don’t want it

o Adam give it a try
o give it a try

so friends, if you’re travelling
never go taking an apple from a snake
if you do I’ll tell you true
you’re making a big mistake

Incredible String Band

Yeah. I know the song well.

What a surprise ;)

Bought Liquid acrobat as regards the air, way back when.

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Date: 7/10/2026 12:45:33
From: Michael V
ID: 2436604
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Yeah. I know the song well.

What a surprise ;)

Bought Liquid acrobat as regards the air, way back when.

There was a mineral’s project in Indonesia called “Liquid Acrobat”.

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Date: 7/10/2026 12:51:07
From: kii
ID: 2436607
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Kingy said:

kii said:

From Fairview, NC’s Facebook page.

This is a work of photographic genius that deserves to go down in the annals of history. I’m an art historian with a PhD (yes, really) so it’s one thing I do know something about.
Let’s start with the framing. Dan Winters has positioned his subject lower than the lens. At a basic level it’s diminishing the man… no small thing for someone so obsessed with his height.
But it’s bigger than that. think about all the portraits you know of Great Men (they are almost always Great Men)
Statues are set on plinths. Above eye level. So you look up at them.
Or famous images like Washington Crossing the Delaware. Or Napoleon Crossing the Alps. We look up at the figures at the centre of the composition. They’re the embodiment of leadership. We are inspired to believe. To follow.
Now, look at the photo. We are looking down at the subject. His mouth gapes. He’s as lost and directionless as a toddler in a crowd who can’t find his mum.
Or, more aptly, a patient in a dementia ward…
Now, look again.
It’s the eyes that strike you the most.
That’s because the photographer has chosen a very shallow depth of field, which means the pinprick focus on the eyes casts the rest of the subject in a hazy wash. Even the American flag pin on his lapel. His one “mission”… leading the nation… is, symbolically, completely unfocused.
None of this is an accident. Winters made conscious choices when he framed this portrait and chose the settings on his camera.
And the colour saturation…
None of the garish, highly saturated red, white, and blue. Or the glitter of gold. We’re looking at a president who has just wandered out of a crypt.
He is a spectre wrapped in parchment-thin,
ashen skin with a waft of gossamer-thread hair atop a papery scalp. He’s a phantasm with sawdust in his veins and a handful of dust where a heart should be.
But, back on those eyes. If the eyes are, indeed, the windows to the soul, then this man has none…
Trump is wandering through a misty haze. Where is he, even? Who the fuck can tell? He certainly can’t.
There’s no colour. No sunlight. No life. Just pinpricks of light reflected back from the soulless, senseless, rheumy, red-rimmed eyes beneath hooded and desiccated lids.
They say “I am lost. I am confused. I am not long for this world.”
@writtenbymeaghan

Those are the eyes of a snake.

so did the photographer plan all this or is it interpretation

“None of this is an accident. Winters made conscious choices when he framed this portrait and chose the settings on his camera.”
Read the words that describe the photographer’s plan to capture the pos in this way.

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Date: 7/10/2026 13:28:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2436619
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What a surprise ;)

Bought Liquid acrobat as regards the air, way back when.

There was a mineral’s project in Indonesia called “Liquid Acrobat”.

Probably named by another ISB nerd :)

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Date: 7/10/2026 13:33:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2436622
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Bought Liquid acrobat as regards the air, way back when.

There was a minerals project in Indonesia called “Liquid Acrobat”.

Probably named by another ISB nerd :)

Likely.

There was another in Western Australia. Sub-economic nickel prospect.

I cannot find any info about the Indonesian prospect.

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Date: 7/10/2026 20:12:02
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2436728
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

U.S. military to conduct first firing squad execution since World War II
@NBCNews

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Date: 7/10/2026 20:14:10
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2436729
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump and Putin to speak about potential plague case in Siberia | ABC NEWS
@abcnewsaustralia

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Date: 7/10/2026 20:15:59
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2436730
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


U.S. military to conduct first firing squad execution since World War II
@NBCNews

Which might never actually take place, almost like a suspended death sentence.

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Date: 8/10/2026 11:23:39
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2436853
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

With less than a month to go until the midterms, polls remain steady.

The Dems maintain their 9.6% lead in the generic poll, which puts them at an approximate 75% chance of taking the Senate and a 93% chance of taking the House.

It seems pretty clear the swing to the Dems is real and sustainable; the only question now is how big the swing will be.

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Date: 8/10/2026 12:03:29
From: kii
ID: 2436870
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump: “I’ve had my shot, and still do, at Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Hussein Obama. And I’ve had plenty of people say, ‘Let’s go get them.’”
“I could’ve done very bad things to Hillary Clinton. I could’ve done very, very bad things to Joe Biden. I could’ve done very bad things to Barack Hussein Obama … I can do whatever I want, if I want.”

Watch out for the lizard creature trying to look human. (It’s Susan Dell.)

Yeah, I know I shouldn’t say shit about her looks, but….

Link.

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Date: 8/10/2026 17:12:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2436937
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 8/10/2026 17:18:16
From: Michael V
ID: 2436939
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged


So what’s the answer?

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Date: 8/10/2026 17:19:23
From: kii
ID: 2436940
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged


Oh, come on Laura! You’re not THAT stoopid, are you?

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Date: 8/10/2026 18:16:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2436956
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged


So what’s the answer?

Oh, come on Laura! You’re not THAT stoopid, are you?

don’t know, we’ve never taken a palestinian to dmv in new york city but ¿ coincidence

we think not

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Date: 8/10/2026 23:51:03
From: dv
ID: 2437013
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.threads.com/share/BAVYpCoYw_/

Why, though?

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Date: 8/10/2026 23:58:17
From: kii
ID: 2437016
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.threads.com/share/BAVYpCoYw_/

Why, though?

Some of the comments across social media are so freaking funny. Common themes:

“Lizards typically like to be on all fours so this is uncomfortable.”

“I don’t know how my sleep paralysis demon got a job in the white house.”

Also the first day of standing lessons memes are brilliant.

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Date: 9/10/2026 09:41:45
From: Neophyte
ID: 2437073
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Good grief…

“Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth announced that the U.S. will conduct its first public execution in nearly 100 years this December. Nidal Malik Hasan, a former United States Army major and physician, and a mass murderer convicted of killing 13 people and injuring 32 others in the 2009 Fort Hood shooting on November 5, 2009, will die by firing squad.

The event will be live-streamed for the world to see, Hegseth says.”

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Date: 9/10/2026 11:16:09
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2437159
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

From todays Quoraing:

“Why do conservatives oppose universal healthcare and free college?

We’re not.

We actually really want universal access to health care. And education. And housing. And all that stuff you claim we’re against.

We simply believe that government is the absolute worst institution to accomplish those things.”

About the stupidest non-bot response on Quora I have seen.

Quite an accomplishment.

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Date: 9/10/2026 11:43:00
From: ms spock
ID: 2437184
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


Good grief…

“Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth announced that the U.S. will conduct its first public execution in nearly 100 years this December. Nidal Malik Hasan, a former United States Army major and physician, and a mass murderer convicted of killing 13 people and injuring 32 others in the 2009 Fort Hood shooting on November 5, 2009, will die by firing squad.

The event will be live-streamed for the world to see, Hegseth says.”

Daniella Moodie has been reporting on increased lynchings across America.

All the Lone Wolves will know what to do.

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Date: 9/10/2026 11:46:10
From: Cymek
ID: 2437187
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Neophyte said:

Good grief…

“Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth announced that the U.S. will conduct its first public execution in nearly 100 years this December. Nidal Malik Hasan, a former United States Army major and physician, and a mass murderer convicted of killing 13 people and injuring 32 others in the 2009 Fort Hood shooting on November 5, 2009, will die by firing squad.

The event will be live-streamed for the world to see, Hegseth says.”

Daniella Moodie has been reporting on increased lynchings across America.

All the Lone Wolves will know what to do.

Channelling Starship Troopers

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Date: 9/10/2026 11:56:40
From: ms spock
ID: 2437196
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Neophyte said:

Good grief…

“Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth announced that the U.S. will conduct its first public execution in nearly 100 years this December. Nidal Malik Hasan, a former United States Army major and physician, and a mass murderer convicted of killing 13 people and injuring 32 others in the 2009 Fort Hood shooting on November 5, 2009, will die by firing squad.

The event will be live-streamed for the world to see, Hegseth says.”

Daniella Moodie has been reporting on increased lynchings across America.

All the Lone Wolves will know what to do.

Channelling Starship Troopers

Indeed

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Date: 9/10/2026 14:32:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437268
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Neophyte said:

Good grief…

“Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth announced that the U.S. will conduct its first public execution in nearly 100 years this December. Nidal Malik Hasan, a former United States Army major and physician, and a mass murderer convicted of killing 13 people and injuring 32 others in the 2009 Fort Hood shooting on November 5, 2009, will die by firing squad.

The event will be live-streamed for the world to see, Hegseth says.”

Daniella Moodie has been reporting on increased lynchings across America.

All the Lone Wolves will know what to do.

Channelling Starship Troopers

fkn communist dictatorships are the worst

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Date: 9/10/2026 14:43:13
From: dv
ID: 2437272
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 9/10/2026 14:50:50
From: kii
ID: 2437275
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



sToP iT!

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Date: 9/10/2026 15:12:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437282
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Looks like she hired Tim Burton as her stylist.

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Date: 9/10/2026 15:27:24
From: dv
ID: 2437296
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 9/10/2026 15:28:51
From: dv
ID: 2437298
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:


sToP iT!

I cropped off the caption:

When the monster in a horror movie first sees the protagonist.

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Date: 9/10/2026 15:35:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437302
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


kii said:

dv said:


sToP iT!

I cropped off the caption:

When the monster in a horror movie first sees the protagonist.

We should refrain from commenting negatively on appearances.

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Date: 9/10/2026 15:43:56
From: dv
ID: 2437308
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

kii said:

sToP iT!

I cropped off the caption:

When the monster in a horror movie first sees the protagonist.

We should refrain from commenting negatively on appearances.

Nah, these are some of the richest and worst people on eargt. Fuck em.

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Date: 9/10/2026 15:44:41
From: dv
ID: 2437310
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


captain_spalding said:

dv said:

I cropped off the caption:

When the monster in a horror movie first sees the protagonist.

We should refrain from commenting negatively on appearances.

Nah, these are some of the richest and worst people on eargt. Fuck em.

And, like I said… this is 100% a choice. This is precisely how she wants to look for some reason.

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Date: 9/10/2026 15:47:27
From: Cymek
ID: 2437312
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


dv said:

captain_spalding said:

We should refrain from commenting negatively on appearances.

Nah, these are some of the richest and worst people on eargt. Fuck em.

And, like I said… this is 100% a choice. This is precisely how she wants to look for some reason.

I wonder if they convince themselves it looks good because otherwise you’d have to admit its a big mistake
Or your minds eyes skews it towards looking ideal almost a hallucination

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Date: 9/10/2026 15:51:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2437313
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


dv said:

dv said:

Nah, these are some of the richest and worst people on eargt. Fuck em.

And, like I said… this is 100% a choice. This is precisely how she wants to look for some reason.

I wonder if they convince themselves it looks good because otherwise you’d have to admit its a big mistake
Or your minds eyes skews it towards looking ideal almost a hallucination

I see this as symptomatic of the pathological detachment from reality one expects from ardent Trump supporters.

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Date: 9/10/2026 15:51:12
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437314
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


dv said:

captain_spalding said:

We should refrain from commenting negatively on appearances.

Nah, these are some of the richest and worst people on eargt. Fuck em.

And, like I said… this is 100% a choice. This is precisely how she wants to look for some reason.

Well, we shouldn’t mock the afflicted.

Even if it’s mostly money that they’re afflicted with.

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Date: 9/10/2026 15:54:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437316
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


dv said:

dv said:

Nah, these are some of the richest and worst people on eargt. Fuck em.

And, like I said… this is 100% a choice. This is precisely how she wants to look for some reason.

I wonder if they convince themselves it looks good because otherwise you’d have to admit its a big mistake
Or your minds eyes skews it towards looking ideal almost a hallucination

I’d go for the latter.

Mental conditions can do weird stuff to you.

Psychologists i worked with told me about anorexia.

Starvation diets mean that your body starts digesting bits of itself, and one of those bits is the myelin sheathng around neurons in your brain.

This can affect how signals pass through those neurons, distorting them, sometimes very badly.

Your brain has gone haywire, and you interpret things differently. You literally see the world, and you in it, in a different way to everyone around you.

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Date: 9/10/2026 15:55:32
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437317
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bubblecar said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

And, like I said… this is 100% a choice. This is precisely how she wants to look for some reason.

I wonder if they convince themselves it looks good because otherwise you’d have to admit its a big mistake
Or your minds eyes skews it towards looking ideal almost a hallucination

I see this as symptomatic of the pathological detachment from reality one expects from ardent Trump supporters.

Well, yeah, there’s that, too.

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Date: 9/10/2026 16:46:38
From: Arts
ID: 2437325
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

And, like I said… this is 100% a choice. This is precisely how she wants to look for some reason.

I wonder if they convince themselves it looks good because otherwise you’d have to admit its a big mistake
Or your minds eyes skews it towards looking ideal almost a hallucination

I’d go for the latter.

Mental conditions can do weird stuff to you.

Psychologists i worked with told me about anorexia.

Starvation diets mean that your body starts digesting bits of itself, and one of those bits is the myelin sheathng around neurons in your brain.

This can affect how signals pass through those neurons, distorting them, sometimes very badly.

Your brain has gone haywire, and you interpret things differently. You literally see the world, and you in it, in a different way to everyone around you.

body dysmorphia is a real thing.. and debilitating.

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Date: 9/10/2026 16:48:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437327
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

are aesthetics all equivalent

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:11:17
From: dv
ID: 2437340
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I kind of look like dross and I assume it’s all downhill from here but I’d rather look like a regular craggy old person than whatever in the uncanny valley hell this is.

Meanwhile Ming Na Wen and Gabrielle Union look better now than they did 30 years ago so that’s down to genetics or maybe they have made sensible modest decisions with their cosmetic surgery.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:14:04
From: Woodie
ID: 2437341
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


kii said:

dv said:


sToP iT!

I cropped off the caption:

When the monster in a horror movie first sees the protagonist.

Who is the new White House Press Secretary? I know Caroline Leavitt left, but have not heard or seen a “white House Press Secretary” press interview since.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:15:45
From: dv
ID: 2437343
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

and ya can’t spell my name without dross, or navy

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:17:29
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437346
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


dv said:

kii said:

sToP iT!

I cropped off the caption:

When the monster in a horror movie first sees the protagonist.

Who is the new White House Press Secretary? I know Caroline Leavitt left, but have not heard or seen a “white House Press Secretary” press interview since.

The position has been vacant since 28 August.

They’re having difficulty finding an applicant who is willing to undergo the surgery necessary for the removal of their moral compass.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:18:07
From: buffy
ID: 2437347
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I got curious about the discussion about Susan Dell. So I looked back at the Hello pictures timeline someone put up earlier. And at various places on the interwebs. She is four years younger than me. Looks like she married at the age of 26 years. And on the timeline, things look pretty normal, perhaps with some breast work and minor tightening until 2007. She would have been aged 44 then and had been married 18 years. Perhaps something happened in her life at that time to send her down the more extreme surgery road.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:19:12
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437349
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


I got curious about the discussion about Susan Dell. So I looked back at the Hello pictures timeline someone put up earlier. And at various places on the interwebs. She is four years younger than me. Looks like she married at the age of 26 years. And on the timeline, things look pretty normal, perhaps with some breast work and minor tightening until 2007. She would have been aged 44 then and had been married 18 years. Perhaps something happened in her life at that time to send her down the more extreme surgery road.

My condolences to her.

Whatever happened to her, it seems unlikely that it was anything good.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:23:41
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2437355
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


I got curious about the discussion about Susan Dell. So I looked back at the Hello pictures timeline someone put up earlier. And at various places on the interwebs. She is four years younger than me. Looks like she married at the age of 26 years. And on the timeline, things look pretty normal, perhaps with some breast work and minor tightening until 2007. She would have been aged 44 then and had been married 18 years. Perhaps something happened in her life at that time to send her down the more extreme surgery road.

Yoyo can’t get on, the bus is chockers.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:25:11
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2437358
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

I got curious about the discussion about Susan Dell. So I looked back at the Hello pictures timeline someone put up earlier. And at various places on the interwebs. She is four years younger than me. Looks like she married at the age of 26 years. And on the timeline, things look pretty normal, perhaps with some breast work and minor tightening until 2007. She would have been aged 44 then and had been married 18 years. Perhaps something happened in her life at that time to send her down the more extreme surgery road.

My condolences to her.

Whatever happened to her, it seems unlikely that it was anything good.

A big part of body dysphoria around this time comes from hormonal changes which can drastically affect one’s looks. Many women report their face appearing to be “melting” as collagen production drops, as well as wrinkles etc associated with ageing. Jowls become prominent, elasticity decreases, fat redistribution and so on.

In a society which has applauded youthful looks, particularly for women, and especially for women in the public eye, it’s easy to get caught in a cycle of surgeries. Perhaps the money could be better used for therapy, but that’s a different discussion.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:30:10
From: Woodie
ID: 2437365
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Woodie said:

dv said:

I cropped off the caption:

When the monster in a horror movie first sees the protagonist.

Who is the new White House Press Secretary? I know Caroline Leavitt left, but have not heard or seen a “white House Press Secretary” press interview since.

The position has been vacant since 28 August.

They’re having difficulty finding an applicant who is willing to undergo the surgery necessary for the removal of their moral compass.

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:34:57
From: Cymek
ID: 2437371
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

I got curious about the discussion about Susan Dell. So I looked back at the Hello pictures timeline someone put up earlier. And at various places on the interwebs. She is four years younger than me. Looks like she married at the age of 26 years. And on the timeline, things look pretty normal, perhaps with some breast work and minor tightening until 2007. She would have been aged 44 then and had been married 18 years. Perhaps something happened in her life at that time to send her down the more extreme surgery road.

My condolences to her.

Whatever happened to her, it seems unlikely that it was anything good.

A big part of body dysphoria around this time comes from hormonal changes which can drastically affect one’s looks. Many women report their face appearing to be “melting” as collagen production drops, as well as wrinkles etc associated with ageing. Jowls become prominent, elasticity decreases, fat redistribution and so on.

In a society which has applauded youthful looks, particularly for women, and especially for women in the public eye, it’s easy to get caught in a cycle of surgeries. Perhaps the money could be better used for therapy, but that’s a different discussion.

Getting old does kind of suck especially when you give your best years to working and hope you can retire with some semblance of a comfortable life.
It does sneak up as well, you get this constant update of how you look and think that’s always been you and then look at photos and nope I was young once.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:42:39
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2437378
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


captain_spalding said:

Woodie said:

Who is the new White House Press Secretary? I know Caroline Leavitt left, but have not heard or seen a “white House Press Secretary” press interview since.

The position has been vacant since 28 August.

They’re having difficulty finding an applicant who is willing to undergo the surgery necessary for the removal of their moral compass.

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

And she looked spiffing when she was with child.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:43:07
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2437380
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I reckon this guy will be the next POTUS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDCQ7-OivEM

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:44:06
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2437382
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


captain_spalding said:

Woodie said:

Who is the new White House Press Secretary? I know Caroline Leavitt left, but have not heard or seen a “white House Press Secretary” press interview since.

The position has been vacant since 28 August.

They’re having difficulty finding an applicant who is willing to undergo the surgery necessary for the removal of their moral compass.

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

There are rumors that Scott Jennings is the likely successor

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:45:31
From: party_pants
ID: 2437383
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


captain_spalding said:

Woodie said:

Who is the new White House Press Secretary? I know Caroline Leavitt left, but have not heard or seen a “white House Press Secretary” press interview since.

The position has been vacant since 28 August.

They’re having difficulty finding an applicant who is willing to undergo the surgery necessary for the removal of their moral compass.

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

Telling bare-faced lies is easy. Anyone could do it.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:45:36
From: furious
ID: 2437384
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Woodie said:

captain_spalding said:

The position has been vacant since 28 August.

They’re having difficulty finding an applicant who is willing to undergo the surgery necessary for the removal of their moral compass.

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

There are rumors that Scott Jennings is the likely successor

Didn’t they announce some YouTube famous young lady for the job?

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:46:24
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2437385
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

furious said:


diddly-squat said:

Woodie said:

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

There are rumors that Scott Jennings is the likely successor

Didn’t they announce some YouTube famous young lady for the job?

I’m not sure.. it’s entirely possible

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:47:16
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2437386
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Woodie said:

captain_spalding said:

The position has been vacant since 28 August.

They’re having difficulty finding an applicant who is willing to undergo the surgery necessary for the removal of their moral compass.

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

Telling bare-faced lies is easy. Anyone could do it.

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:47:44
From: furious
ID: 2437387
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


furious said:

diddly-squat said:

There are rumors that Scott Jennings is the likely successor

Didn’t they announce some YouTube famous young lady for the job?

I’m not sure.. it’s entirely possible

I just checked, the lass is assistant press secretary, not the full press secretary…

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:48:05
From: Woodie
ID: 2437388
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

I got curious about the discussion about Susan Dell. So I looked back at the Hello pictures timeline someone put up earlier. And at various places on the interwebs. She is four years younger than me. Looks like she married at the age of 26 years. And on the timeline, things look pretty normal, perhaps with some breast work and minor tightening until 2007. She would have been aged 44 then and had been married 18 years. Perhaps something happened in her life at that time to send her down the more extreme surgery road.

My condolences to her.

Whatever happened to her, it seems unlikely that it was anything good.

A big part of body dysphoria around this time comes from hormonal changes which can drastically affect one’s looks. Many women report their face appearing to be “melting” as collagen production drops, as well as wrinkles etc associated with ageing. Jowls become prominent, elasticity decreases, fat redistribution and so on.

In a society which has applauded youthful looks, particularly for women, and especially for women in the public eye, it’s easy to get caught in a cycle of surgeries. Perhaps the money could be better used for therapy, but that’s a different discussion.

They are called “character lines”. Nothing wrong with a bungee jump with the elastic tied to the back of your head to fix that lot.

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:50:59
From: party_pants
ID: 2437390
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

Woodie said:

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

Telling bare-faced lies is easy. Anyone could do it.

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

not a trait I admire in people

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:51:47
From: Cymek
ID: 2437391
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

Woodie said:

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

Telling bare-faced lies is easy. Anyone could do it.

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

I wonder if you could get away with subtle food poisoning

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:53:13
From: Cymek
ID: 2437392
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


Divine Angel said:

captain_spalding said:

My condolences to her.

Whatever happened to her, it seems unlikely that it was anything good.

A big part of body dysphoria around this time comes from hormonal changes which can drastically affect one’s looks. Many women report their face appearing to be “melting” as collagen production drops, as well as wrinkles etc associated with ageing. Jowls become prominent, elasticity decreases, fat redistribution and so on.

In a society which has applauded youthful looks, particularly for women, and especially for women in the public eye, it’s easy to get caught in a cycle of surgeries. Perhaps the money could be better used for therapy, but that’s a different discussion.

They are called “character lines”. Nothing wrong with a bungee jump with the elastic tied to the back of your head to fix that lot.

Or the Son’a from Star Trek – Insurrection

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Date: 9/10/2026 17:57:25
From: buffy
ID: 2437396
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


captain_spalding said:

Woodie said:

Who is the new White House Press Secretary? I know Caroline Leavitt left, but have not heard or seen a “white House Press Secretary” press interview since.

The position has been vacant since 28 August.

They’re having difficulty finding an applicant who is willing to undergo the surgery necessary for the removal of their moral compass.

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

You mean she could say the most outrageous things with a straight face?

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:07:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437398
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

I got curious about the discussion about Susan Dell. So I looked back at the Hello pictures timeline someone put up earlier. And at various places on the interwebs. She is four years younger than me. Looks like she married at the age of 26 years. And on the timeline, things look pretty normal, perhaps with some breast work and minor tightening until 2007. She would have been aged 44 then and had been married 18 years. Perhaps something happened in her life at that time to send her down the more extreme surgery road.

My condolences to her.

Whatever happened to her, it seems unlikely that it was anything good.

A big part of body dysphoria around this time comes from hormonal changes which can drastically affect one’s looks. Many women report their face appearing to be “melting” as collagen production drops, as well as wrinkles etc associated with ageing. Jowls become prominent, elasticity decreases, fat redistribution and so on.

In a society which has applauded youthful looks, particularly for women, and especially for women in the public eye, it’s easy to get caught in a cycle of surgeries. Perhaps the money could be better used for therapy, but that’s a different discussion.

use the money to bomb into oblivion the cultures that aren’t mature enough to celebrate the natural progress of ageing

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:07:35
From: Woodie
ID: 2437399
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Woodie said:

captain_spalding said:

The position has been vacant since 28 August.

They’re having difficulty finding an applicant who is willing to undergo the surgery necessary for the removal of their moral compass.

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

And she looked spiffing when she was with child.

….. and she wasn’t paid that much, really, considering the job. Dunno what the perks were like though, hey what but.

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:10:03
From: Cymek
ID: 2437401
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

And she looked spiffing when she was with child.

….. and she wasn’t paid that much, really, considering the job. Dunno what the perks were like though, hey what but.

The perks often seem to be a distraction from actual decent working conditions

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:14:22
From: Woodie
ID: 2437402
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Woodie said:

captain_spalding said:

The position has been vacant since 28 August.

They’re having difficulty finding an applicant who is willing to undergo the surgery necessary for the removal of their moral compass.

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

You mean she could say the most outrageous things with a straight face?

Exactly, Ms Buffy. And she was bloody good at it too.

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:18:04
From: Cymek
ID: 2437403
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


buffy said:

Woodie said:

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

You mean she could say the most outrageous things with a straight face?

Exactly, Ms Buffy. And she was bloody good at it too.

Like a dog chewing a toffee

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:23:10
From: ms spock
ID: 2437408
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

Woodie said:

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

Telling bare-faced lies is easy. Anyone could do it.

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

How can you remember all the lies? Then how do you pivot when the lies changes?

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:24:42
From: ms spock
ID: 2437410
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

Telling bare-faced lies is easy. Anyone could do it.

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

I wonder if you could get away with subtle food poisoning

He already eats poison food. It really is taking his time.

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:26:06
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2437412
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

Woodie said:

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

Telling bare-faced lies is easy. Anyone could do it.

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

You could say the same of a serial killer.

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:26:20
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2437413
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

Woodie said:

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

Telling bare-faced lies is easy. Anyone could do it.

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

You could say the same of a serial killer.

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:26:51
From: ms spock
ID: 2437415
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Cymek said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

I wonder if you could get away with subtle food poisoning

He already eats poison food. It really is taking his time.

It’s time

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:28:15
From: party_pants
ID: 2437416
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

Telling bare-faced lies is easy. Anyone could do it.

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

You could say the same of a serial killer.

Maybe she too is mentally deranged and just doesn’t have a sense of right or wrong.

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:29:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437419
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

Telling bare-faced lies is easy. Anyone could do it.

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

You could say the same of a serial killer.

Or a con artist.

You have to be able to present the lie as if you firmly believe it to be the truth, even though you know all along that’s a lie, and that it will at least disadvantage, if not actually harm, the people to whom you’re telling it.

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:30:18
From: ms spock
ID: 2437420
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Like her or hate her. She was bloody good at her job.

And she looked spiffing when she was with child.

….. and she wasn’t paid that much, really, considering the job. Dunno what the perks were like though, hey what but.

Becoming a millionaire on FOX “News”!

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:31:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437422
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And she looked spiffing when she was with child.

….. and she wasn’t paid that much, really, considering the job. Dunno what the perks were like though, hey what but.

Becoming a millionaire on FOX “News”!

A millionaire. Pfft.

A million is just the deposit on a house in inner Sydney these days.

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:32:07
From: ms spock
ID: 2437424
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

You could say the same of a serial killer.

Or a con artist.

You have to be able to present the lie as if you firmly believe it to be the truth, even though you know all along that’s a lie, and that it will at least disadvantage, if not actually harm, the people to whom you’re telling it.

That can come from splitting or fragmenting off parts of yourself.

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:33:28
From: ms spock
ID: 2437426
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


ms spock said:

Woodie said:

….. and she wasn’t paid that much, really, considering the job. Dunno what the perks were like though, hey what but.

Becoming a millionaire on FOX “News”!

A millionaire. Pfft.

A million is just the deposit on a house in inner Sydney these days.

Fair point

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:34:27
From: Woodie
ID: 2437428
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You could say the same of a serial killer.

Or a con artist.

You have to be able to present the lie as if you firmly believe it to be the truth, even though you know all along that’s a lie, and that it will at least disadvantage, if not actually harm, the people to whom you’re telling it.

That can come from splitting or fragmenting off parts of yourself.

They’re called Horcruxes.

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:37:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437432
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


captain_spalding said:

ms spock said:

Becoming a millionaire on FOX “News”!

A millionaire. Pfft.

A million is just the deposit on a house in inner Sydney these days.

Fair point

The people in US politics these days would hardly condescend to answer the phone for a million dollars.

Donate a million to their Political Action Committee, they’ll say ‘thank you’, and enter it under ‘petty cash’.

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:37:17
From: ms spock
ID: 2437433
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


ms spock said:

captain_spalding said:

Or a con artist.

You have to be able to present the lie as if you firmly believe it to be the truth, even though you know all along that’s a lie, and that it will at least disadvantage, if not actually harm, the people to whom you’re telling it.

That can come from splitting or fragmenting off parts of yourself.

They’re called Horcruxes.

And I steer well clear of them.

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:40:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2437435
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


ms spock said:

captain_spalding said:

Or a con artist.

You have to be able to present the lie as if you firmly believe it to be the truth, even though you know all along that’s a lie, and that it will at least disadvantage, if not actually harm, the people to whom you’re telling it.

That can come from splitting or fragmenting off parts of yourself.

They’re called Horcruxes.

>>An item that stores a piece of a split soul, anchoring the creator to the living world even if their physical body is destroyed.

makes the sign of the cross and rushes inside

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Date: 9/10/2026 18:44:41
From: ms spock
ID: 2437436
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


ms spock said:

captain_spalding said:

A millionaire. Pfft.

A million is just the deposit on a house in inner Sydney these days.

Fair point

The people in US politics these days would hardly condescend to answer the phone for a million dollars.

Donate a million to their Political Action Committee, they’ll say ‘thank you’, and enter it under ‘petty cash’.

You are hitting the nail on the head for the flow on effects of Citizens United and the general American political gifting.

Apparently Fox “anchors” make anything from $50,000 to $45 million.

Sean Hannity is the highest-paid anchor at Fox News, with an estimated annual salary of around $25 million to $45 million when combining his television and radio contracts.

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Date: 9/10/2026 19:13:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437460
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

Telling bare-faced lies is easy. Anyone could do it.

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

How can you remember all the lies? Then how do you pivot when the lies changes?

you… don’t¿ Pretty sure the recognised strategy is to flood the zone with shit

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Date: 9/10/2026 19:15:33
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437464
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


ms spock said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

How can you remember all the lies? Then how do you pivot when the lies changes?

you… don’t¿ Pretty sure the recognised strategy is to flood the zone with shit

“…how do you pivot when the lies changes?”

You say it’s Joe Biden’s fault!

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Date: 9/10/2026 19:18:22
From: ms spock
ID: 2437469
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


ms spock said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

How can you remember all the lies? Then how do you pivot when the lies changes?

you… don’t¿ Pretty sure the recognised strategy is to flood the zone with shit

So true! I do get overwhelmed at times.

No one mentions the Epstein Files.

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Date: 9/10/2026 19:21:06
From: ms spock
ID: 2437471
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

How can you remember all the lies? Then how do you pivot when the lies changes?

you… don’t¿ Pretty sure the recognised strategy is to flood the zone with shit

“…how do you pivot when the lies changes?”

You say it’s Joe Biden’s fault!


Well that’s the truth. It is all Joe Biden’s fault.

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Date: 9/10/2026 19:30:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437479
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

you… don’t¿ Pretty sure the recognised strategy is to flood the zone with shit

“…how do you pivot when the lies changes?”

You say it’s Joe Biden’s fault!


Well that’s the truth. It is all Joe Biden’s fault.

That’s why poor Joe was so ‘sleepy’.

He was up all night, every night, carefully laying out schemes that wouldn’t ‘go off’ for months, or years, after he left office, just to make things more difficult for Trump.

Blessed with staggeringly accurate foresight, Joe knew just into which parts of government and economy he should plant his carefully concealed sabotages, and it’s those devilish-cunning time-bombs that are always thwarting Prezdint Shitpants’s big beautiful plans to Make America Great Again.

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Date: 9/10/2026 19:33:06
From: ms spock
ID: 2437481
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bubblecar said:


Cymek said:

I wonder if they convince themselves it looks good because otherwise you’d have to admit its a big mistake
Or your minds eyes skews it towards looking ideal almost a hallucination

I see this as symptomatic of the pathological detachment from reality one expects from ardent Trump supporters.

Isn’t it that there is a look that Trump wants and that’s why they are getting the surgery?0

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Date: 9/10/2026 20:06:29
From: ms spock
ID: 2437492
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


ms spock said:

captain_spalding said:

“…how do you pivot when the lies changes?”

You say it’s Joe Biden’s fault!


Well that’s the truth. It is all Joe Biden’s fault.

That’s why poor Joe was so ‘sleepy’.

He was up all night, every night, carefully laying out schemes that wouldn’t ‘go off’ for months, or years, after he left office, just to make things more difficult for Trump.

Blessed with staggeringly accurate foresight, Joe knew just into which parts of government and economy he should plant his carefully concealed sabotages, and it’s those devilish-cunning time-bombs that are always thwarting Prezdint Shitpants’s big beautiful plans to Make America Great Again.

That makes a lot of sense to Red MAGA.

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Date: 9/10/2026 20:15:14
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2437494
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Leaning Tower of Faeces didn’t get the Nobel Peace Prize again.
Awww …. poor little man-baby.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2026/pillay/facts/

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Date: 9/10/2026 20:51:44
From: Kingy
ID: 2437501
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


ms spock said:

captain_spalding said:

“…how do you pivot when the lies changes?”

You say it’s Joe Biden’s fault!


Well that’s the truth. It is all Joe Biden’s fault.

That’s why poor Joe was so ‘sleepy’.

He was up all night, every night, carefully laying out schemes that wouldn’t ‘go off’ for months, or years, after he left office, just to make things more difficult for Trump.

Blessed with staggeringly accurate foresight, Joe knew just into which parts of government and economy he should plant his carefully concealed sabotages, and it’s those devilish-cunning time-bombs that are always thwarting Prezdint Shitpants’s big beautiful plans to Make America Great Again.

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Date: 9/10/2026 21:08:50
From: ruby
ID: 2437502
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Kingy said:


captain_spalding said:

ms spock said:

Well that’s the truth. It is all Joe Biden’s fault.

That’s why poor Joe was so ‘sleepy’.

He was up all night, every night, carefully laying out schemes that wouldn’t ‘go off’ for months, or years, after he left office, just to make things more difficult for Trump.

Blessed with staggeringly accurate foresight, Joe knew just into which parts of government and economy he should plant his carefully concealed sabotages, and it’s those devilish-cunning time-bombs that are always thwarting Prezdint Shitpants’s big beautiful plans to Make America Great Again.


Oh, thanks for digging those up Kingy, they were great back in the day, back when we thought one term of Trump was ridiculous.
Just perfect with Cap’n Spalding’s post

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Date: 9/10/2026 21:10:36
From: ruby
ID: 2437503
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


The Leaning Tower of Faeces didn’t get the Nobel Peace Prize again.
Awww …. poor little man-baby.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2026/pillay/facts/

I was hoping she would win. The circus around Trump will hate this choice.
Mwahhaha

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Date: 9/10/2026 22:32:54
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2437515
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

Telling bare-faced lies is easy. Anyone could do it.

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

You could say the same of a serial killer.

indeed, I’m sure even a serial killer would require a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s press secretary

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Date: 9/10/2026 22:37:50
From: party_pants
ID: 2437516
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m not sure that’s true.. I think it would take a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s Press Secretary.

You could say the same of a serial killer.

indeed, I’m sure even a serial killer would require a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s press secretary

An absence of empathy and morality is not inner strength.

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Date: 9/10/2026 22:43:33
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2437518
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


diddly-squat said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You could say the same of a serial killer.

indeed, I’m sure even a serial killer would require a special kind of inner strength to be DJT’s press secretary

An absence of empathy and morality is not inner strength.

In all seriousness though.. the Press Secretary role is just a job interview for a prime time spot on one of the cable networks.

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Date: 10/10/2026 05:56:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437554
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

so we guess Australia on the

The US has announced sanctions on the International Criminal Court (ICC), hours after one of its former judges was given the Nobel Peace Prize, which Donald Trump covets. While the White House has previously targeted individuals and other groups linked to the ICC, the latest measures announced by Secretary of State Marco Rubio are on the court itself. US allies including Japan, Canada, the United Kingdom and several European nations criticised the sanctions, which will freeze the court’s assets in the US, as well as block financial transactions and IT agreements the ICC has with US companies.

other hand ¿ didn’t

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Date: 10/10/2026 06:32:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437558
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

so we guess Australia on the

The US has announced sanctions on the International Criminal Court (ICC), hours after one of its former judges was given the Nobel Peace Prize, which Donald Trump covets. While the White House has previously targeted individuals and other groups linked to the ICC, the latest measures announced by Secretary of State Marco Rubio are on the court itself. US allies including Japan, Canada, the United Kingdom and several European nations criticised the sanctions, which will freeze the court’s assets in the US, as well as block financial transactions and IT agreements the ICC has with US companies.

other hand ¿ didn’t

oooh so

Amnesty International Australia is urging Anthony Albanese to raise the issue with Washington.

more

The United Nations has condemned a US plan to livestream the execution of convicted military base shooter Nidal Hasan, labelling it “abhorrent”. “A government executing someone in public or in front of live cameras, frankly, is abhorrent,” UN spokesperson Stephanie Dujarric said. In a message sent to AFP, the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights said the livestreaming of an execution “is tantamount to a public execution and would breach the absolute prohibition of torture”.

sanctions incoming ¿ then

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Date: 10/10/2026 08:21:30
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2437568
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 10/10/2026 09:02:56
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2437572
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:



Men with strong jaws know.

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Date: 10/10/2026 09:21:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2437574
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Bogsnorkler said:


Men with strong jaws know.

Over 60% of men with cleft chins have never spoonfed a baby fruit purée.

*Made up but it might be true.

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Date: 10/10/2026 09:25:11
From: Michael V
ID: 2437575
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:



WTAF?

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Date: 10/10/2026 09:39:08
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2437578
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Bogsnorkler said:


WTAF?

“Texas has been the state people flee to escape the economic and social collapse of Democrat run California, New York, and other failing blue states, but if Talarico and the Democrats get their way, all of that squalor and misery, poverty, homelessness ,” Trump told the roaring crowd.

“When the blues get in everything becomes dirty,” said Trump. “The streets become dirty. The doorknobs going into stores are dirty. Sidewalks are filthy dirty. Everything becomes dirty and has a bad smell, but we’re going to escape all that lawlessness corruption and dysfunction that’s coming to destroy your beloved state of Texas.”

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Date: 10/10/2026 09:54:25
From: Michael V
ID: 2437581
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:


WTAF?

“Texas has been the state people flee to escape the economic and social collapse of Democrat run California, New York, and other failing blue states, but if Talarico and the Democrats get their way, all of that squalor and misery, poverty, homelessness ,” Trump told the roaring crowd.

“When the blues get in everything becomes dirty,” said Trump. “The streets become dirty. The doorknobs going into stores are dirty. Sidewalks are filthy dirty. Everything becomes dirty and has a bad smell, but we’re going to escape all that lawlessness corruption and dysfunction that’s coming to destroy your beloved state of Texas.”

Thanks for enlightening me.

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Date: 10/10/2026 10:14:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2437587
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump signs deal with Putin to buy a shed load of diesel off Russia.

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Date: 10/10/2026 10:22:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437588
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:


WTAF?

“Texas has been the state people flee to escape the economic and social collapse of Democrat run California, New York, and other failing blue states, but if Talarico and the Democrats get their way, all of that squalor and misery, poverty, homelessness ,” Trump told the roaring crowd.

“When the blues get in everything becomes dirty,” said Trump. “The streets become dirty. The doorknobs going into stores are dirty. Sidewalks are filthy dirty. Everything becomes dirty and has a bad smell, but we’re going to escape all that lawlessness corruption and dysfunction that’s coming to destroy your beloved state of Texas.”

and just like that 100000000 americese lapped it up

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Date: 10/10/2026 11:19:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437593
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Trump signs deal with Putin to buy a shed load of diesel off Russia.

Unavoidble.

Inevitable.

Inescapable.

I mean, what other choices did he have?

Stop bombing Iran? Let the US warships go home?

Come on, really!

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Date: 10/10/2026 11:30:10
From: kii
ID: 2437596
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Commentator Katie Zacharia picked as new White House press secretary.

Link

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Date: 10/10/2026 11:45:45
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437604
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Commentator Katie Zacharia picked as new White House press secretary.

Link

You’ll never guess what she looks like!

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Date: 10/10/2026 12:01:39
From: Michael V
ID: 2437614
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

Commentator Katie Zacharia picked as new White House press secretary.

Link

You’ll never guess what she looks like!

I have no idea – even after looking at her picture. Please enlighten me.

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Date: 10/10/2026 12:04:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437616
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

kii said:

Commentator Katie Zacharia picked as new White House press secretary.

Link

You’ll never guess what she looks like!

I have no idea – even after looking at her picture. Please enlighten me.

Come on, you know the answer to this.

Now, what does almost every young woman in White House employ look like?

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Date: 10/10/2026 12:05:34
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437618
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

You’ll never guess what she looks like!

I have no idea – even after looking at her picture. Please enlighten me.

Come on, you know the answer to this.

Now, what does almost every young woman in White House employ look like?

O, perhaps i should say who?

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Date: 10/10/2026 12:13:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2437623
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

I have no idea – even after looking at her picture. Please enlighten me.

Come on, you know the answer to this.

Now, what does almost every young woman in White House employ look like?

O, perhaps i should say who?

No, really, I just don’t know. Even googling I couldn’t tell.

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Date: 10/10/2026 12:14:58
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437625
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

captain_spalding said:

Come on, you know the answer to this.

Now, what does almost every young woman in White House employ look like?

O, perhaps i should say who?

No, really, I just don’t know. Even googling I couldn’t tell.

Ivanka Trump, of course!

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Date: 10/10/2026 12:17:05
From: party_pants
ID: 2437627
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

Commentator Katie Zacharia picked as new White House press secretary.

Link

You’ll never guess what she looks like!

Can’t see the size of her boobs in that pic.

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Date: 10/10/2026 12:18:52
From: Michael V
ID: 2437628
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

O, perhaps i should say who?

No, really, I just don’t know. Even googling I couldn’t tell.

Ivanka Trump, of course!

Ah.

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Date: 10/10/2026 12:20:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437629
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

kii said:

Commentator Katie Zacharia picked as new White House press secretary.

Link

You’ll never guess what she looks like!

Can’t see the size of her boobs in that pic.

I’m sure that we’ll have opportunities to assess all of the lady’s characteristics.

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Date: 10/10/2026 12:34:36
From: party_pants
ID: 2437630
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

You’ll never guess what she looks like!

Can’t see the size of her boobs in that pic.

I’m sure that we’ll have opportunities to assess all of the lady’s characteristics.

Not sure assess is the right word as it implies judgement. More curious to see if my expectation of Trump’s recruitment philosophy is accurate.

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Date: 10/10/2026 12:38:36
From: dv
ID: 2437632
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 10/10/2026 12:58:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437638
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


plot twist deep underground mountain bunkers with nuclear power are some of the best places to run secure data centres

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Date: 10/10/2026 13:33:29
From: kii
ID: 2437644
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Word of the day “gestating”.

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Date: 10/10/2026 16:25:39
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2437693
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 10/10/2026 16:28:49
From: party_pants
ID: 2437695
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:



As soon as there’s a new Speaker in the House of Reps, then both of these clowns should be be taken out and shot. The Speaker is third in line to become POTUS if the other two die or become incapacitated.

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Date: 10/10/2026 16:37:39
From: Michael V
ID: 2437698
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:



Pharque!

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Date: 10/10/2026 16:38:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2437699
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Bogsnorkler said:


As soon as there’s a new Speaker in the House of Reps, then both of these clowns should be be taken out and shot. The Speaker is third in line to become POTUS if the other two die or become incapacitated.

…

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Date: 10/10/2026 17:09:57
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2437709
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Bogsnorkler said:


As soon as there’s a new Speaker in the House of Reps, then both of these clowns should be be taken out and shot. The Speaker is third in line to become POTUS if the other two die or become incapacitated.

So you’d advocate for country that allowed state sanctioned murder of an elected official.. really?

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Date: 10/10/2026 17:54:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437724
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bogsnorkler said:


but it’s the same god

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Date: 10/10/2026 17:56:32
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2437725
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Bogsnorkler said:


but it’s the same god

No no no only the Christian god is loving and forgiving. The Islamic god wants people to fly into skyscrapers for him.

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Date: 10/10/2026 17:58:57
From: party_pants
ID: 2437728
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


party_pants said:

Bogsnorkler said:


As soon as there’s a new Speaker in the House of Reps, then both of these clowns should be be taken out and shot. The Speaker is third in line to become POTUS if the other two die or become incapacitated.

So you’d advocate for country that allowed state sanctioned murder of an elected official.. really?

Yes. I am prepared to sacrifice US democracy for not having a nuclear war inflicted upon the rest of humanity by these two clowns. When you have the president talking about using nuclear weapons to seize control of another country’s oil, and a VP openly saying that nuclear war might be God’s work, then you need to step back from just accepting such positions because the people saying it happen to be democratically elected. Then there’s the potential economic disaster and mass starvation event looming if these stupid wars go on for too much longer, but you already refuse to see that danger.

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Date: 10/10/2026 18:09:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437735
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

party_pants said:

As soon as there’s a new Speaker in the House of Reps, then both of these clowns should be be taken out and shot. The Speaker is third in line to become POTUS if the other two die or become incapacitated.

So you’d advocate for country that allowed state sanctioned murder of an elected official.. really?

Yes. I am prepared to sacrifice US democracy for not having a nuclear war inflicted upon the rest of humanity by these two clowns. When you have the president talking about using nuclear weapons to seize control of another country’s oil, and a VP openly saying that nuclear war might be God’s work, then you need to step back from just accepting such positions because the people saying it happen to be democratically elected. Then there’s the potential economic disaster and mass starvation event looming if these stupid wars go on for too much longer, but you already refuse to see that danger.

yeah but as long as you can convince people that running the place however it’s run is still called democracy then it’s better than any other alternative

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Date: 10/10/2026 19:01:48
From: kii
ID: 2437753
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 10/10/2026 19:03:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437755
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


how’s jeevacation going

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Date: 10/10/2026 19:04:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437756
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

didn’t remember this

https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/trump-deserves-a-nobel-peace-prize-veteran-israeli-negotiator-hails-gaza-deal-20251010-p5n1l9.html

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Date: 10/10/2026 19:15:00
From: kii
ID: 2437758
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:


how’s jeevacation going

What the fuck are you talking about?

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Date: 10/10/2026 19:17:01
From: Michael V
ID: 2437761
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


SCIENCE said:

kii said:


how’s jeevacation going

What the fuck are you talking about?

The Epstein Files.

It’s the main email address Epstein used.

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Date: 10/10/2026 19:22:08
From: kii
ID: 2437762
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

SCIENCE said:

how’s jeevacation going

What the fuck are you talking about?

The Epstein Files.

It’s the main email address Epstein used.

Ah, mr kii’s initials were JE, well JDE. Luckily I always used the JDE as a nickname for him.

Ta, MV.

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Date: 10/10/2026 20:30:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437769
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

Michael V said:

kii said:

SCIENCE said:

kii said:


how’s jeevacation going

What the fuck are you talking about?

The Epstein Files.

It’s the main email address Epstein used.

Ah, mr kii’s initials were JE, well JDE. Luckily I always used the JDE as a nickname for him.

Ta, MV.

wait we were going to commend kii for the clever play on how the americese might angrily feign ignorance, but it seems they were just being rude, well sorry on their behalf

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Date: 10/10/2026 21:42:12
From: kii
ID: 2437781
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 11/10/2026 07:04:34
From: ms spock
ID: 2437800
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2
[ Biographer of Trump and Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Prof David Cay Johnson "Link":https://youtu.be/218zjPegpaQ?si=KLRsuD0DTBuVUvfk It is about Trump going feral. I can't see how that is different than any other far. Except you can bomb US cities. Analysis of Trump voters. How the 1% of the 1% have earned so much. One inch to 5 miles with the bottom 90% not getting acu réal raises for 45 years. Ending with the potential plague in Russia.
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Date: 11/10/2026 07:18:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437802
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


+1

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Date: 11/10/2026 07:51:33
From: ms spock
ID: 2437809
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Extensive Biographer of Trump and Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Prof David Cay Johnson. He’s been covering Trump for over forty years now. He’s written books on him.
Link
It is about Trump going feral. I can’t see how that is different than any other day. Dr Bandy Lee has been talking about this since about 2015. Except Trump says you can bomb US cities that didn’t vote for him.


Analysis of Trump voters.


How the 1% of the 1% have earned so much in the last 45 years .


One inch to 5 miles with the bottom 90% not getting real raises for 45 years.


Ending with the potential plague in Russia.


30 minutes

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Date: 11/10/2026 08:29:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 2437812
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Extensive Biographer of Trump and Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Prof David Cay Johnson. He’s been covering Trump for over forty years now. He’s written books on him.
Link
It is about Trump going feral. I can’t see how that is different than any other day. Dr Bandy Lee has been talking about this since about 2015. Except Trump says you can bomb US cities that didn’t vote for him.


Analysis of Trump voters.


How the 1% of the 1% have earned so much in the last 45 years .


One inch to 5 miles with the bottom 90% not getting real raises for 45 years.


Ending with the potential plague in Russia.


30 minutes

The man is clearly deranged.
US President Donald Trump has blamed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy for sky-rocketing diesel prices in America.

US President Donald Trump has said it is time for Ukraine to get a new president, suggesting Volodymyr Zelenskyy has not done enough to end his country’s war with Russia and blaming him for high diesel prices in America.

“I suggest they get a new leader who can make a deal because he could have made many deals and for some reason he never does,” Mr Trump said.
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Date: 11/10/2026 08:41:48
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2437813
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I think my favourite part of Trump thinking he’d be awarded the Novel Peace Prize is him holding a framed nomination letter. This pic is from before the prize was announced.

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Date: 11/10/2026 08:58:09
From: ms spock
ID: 2437815
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

Extensive Biographer of Trump and Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Prof David Cay Johnson. He’s been covering Trump for over forty years now. He’s written books on him.
Link
It is about Trump going feral. I can’t see how that is different than any other day. Dr Bandy Lee has been talking about this since about 2015. Except Trump says you can bomb US cities that didn’t vote for him.


Analysis of Trump voters.


How the 1% of the 1% have earned so much in the last 45 years .


One inch to 5 miles with the bottom 90% not getting real raises for 45 years.


Ending with the potential plague in Russia.


30 minutes

The man is clearly deranged.
US President Donald Trump has blamed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy for sky-rocketing diesel prices in America.

US President Donald Trump has said it is time for Ukraine to get a new president, suggesting Volodymyr Zelenskyy has not done enough to end his country’s war with Russia and blaming him for high diesel prices in America.

“I suggest they get a new leader who can make a deal because he could have made many deals and for some reason he never does,” Mr Trump said.

Confirmed he’s a deranged malignant narcissist. So many mental health professionals have been saying that since 2015-2016. Dr Bandy X Lee, Dr Judith Lewis Herman, Dr Rosemary Sword, Dr Stephen Hassan, Dr Philip Zimbardo, Lance Dodes, Dr Nanette Gartrell, Dr Dee Mosbacher, Dr Mary Trump, et.al.

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Date: 11/10/2026 09:53:51
From: ms spock
ID: 2437823
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I didn’t know that using a tactical nuke on Iran was discussed a month ago. I thought that it was a recent event.

Mary Trump discussing Trump and the lengths he will go to not lose .

Link

15 minutes.

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Date: 11/10/2026 11:01:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437857
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Anyone else seen this?

On the ‘positive’ side, at least Joe Biden isn’t getting the blame, for a change.

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Date: 11/10/2026 11:06:38
From: Michael V
ID: 2437860
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

Anyone else seen this?

On the ‘positive’ side, at least Joe Biden isn’t getting the blame, for a change.

Nothing bad is ever Trump’s fault, according to Trump. It’s the Golden Rule.

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Date: 11/10/2026 11:11:49
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437863
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Anyone else seen this?

On the ‘positive’ side, at least Joe Biden isn’t getting the blame, for a change.

Nothing bad is ever Trump’s fault, according to Trump. It’s the Golden Rule.

There was someone being interviewed a few days back by a selection committee, for a post with the US Food and Drug Admin, i think.

She was asked four times ‘can Donald Trump ever be wrong about something?’.

She did not offer an answer at any of those times, just blathered. But, the look in her eyes…i’ve seen panic before, i’ve been panicked before, but this was a whole new level of it.

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Date: 11/10/2026 11:45:57
From: kii
ID: 2437874
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Anyone else seen this?

On the ‘positive’ side, at least Joe Biden isn’t getting the blame, for a change.

Nothing bad is ever Trump’s fault, according to Trump. It’s the Golden Rule.

There was someone being interviewed a few days back by a selection committee, for a post with the US Food and Drug Admin, i think.

She was asked four times ‘can Donald Trump ever be wrong about something?’.

She did not offer an answer at any of those times, just blathered. But, the look in her eyes…i’ve seen panic before, i’ve been panicked before, but this was a whole new level of it.

Dr Heidi Overton…

Link

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Date: 11/10/2026 12:43:01
From: Michael V
ID: 2437889
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Anyone else seen this?

On the ‘positive’ side, at least Joe Biden isn’t getting the blame, for a change.

Nothing bad is ever Trump’s fault, according to Trump. It’s the Golden Rule.

There was someone being interviewed a few days back by a selection committee, for a post with the US Food and Drug Admin, i think.

She was asked four times ‘can Donald Trump ever be wrong about something?’.

She did not offer an answer at any of those times, just blathered. But, the look in her eyes…i’ve seen panic before, i’ve been panicked before, but this was a whole new level of it.

Holy Huey!

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Date: 11/10/2026 13:12:54
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2437900
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Katie Zacharia has been names as the new White House Press Secretary. Her most recent roles was as a communication advisor with Truth Social and previous that that she was a spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security.

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Date: 11/10/2026 13:56:52
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437908
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:

Katie Zacharia has been names as the new White House Press Secretary. Her most recent roles was as a communication advisor with Truth Social and previous that that she was a spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security.

So she’s no stranger to alternative interpretations of reality.

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Date: 11/10/2026 14:51:36
From: ms spock
ID: 2437919
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump’s Shrinking Crowds, GOP Backlash Over LA & San Diego Comments, El-Sayed’s:A Closer Look

Seth Meyers

Link

16:17

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Date: 11/10/2026 15:22:28
From: AussieDJ
ID: 2437924
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

From Carrick Ryan (Facebook)

Link

To understand the gravity of what this means, it’s necessary to first understand an under appreciated, and perhaps counter-intuitive aspect of US doctrine towards Ukraine.

For the first half of the war, President Biden proactively used aid to control Ukraine. He gave the Ukrainian military enough advanced weaponry to defend themselves, but nothing that could help them actually win the war.

The fear was that the prospect of a humiliating military capitulation for Russia would trigger an extreme response from Putin. Biden wanted Ukraine to survive, but he didn’t actually want Putin’s regime to fall.

Believe it or not, the men that Putin has elevated to positions of power around him are far more ideologically hostile to the West than Putin is, and a Balkanisation of the Russian Federation would not just be a humanitarian disaster, it would destabilise the entire Eurasian continent.

Imagine the break-up of Yugoslavia and the Chechen Wars on an unfathomable scale.

Because the USA was the biggest source of military and financial aid for Ukraine, committing almost US$66 billion in military assistance over Biden’s presidency, Washington had significant influence over everything Ukraine did in the war.

Biden could dictate to Zelensky what rules he had to play by, most pertinently refusing to allow Ukraine to conduct strikes on Russian territory.

Trump stopped the military aid in March 2025. The European Union filled the gap, and Kyiv just figured out how to innovate. The Ukrainian military still get a lot of help from US companies, especially Palantir and Starkink, (sic) but Trump isn’t signing any more aid bills, and Zelensky knows that he is far more popular in the USA than Trump.

So, no longer restrained by Washington, Ukraine developed their own long range strike capabilities, sending drone swarms to deep into the Russian heartland. Ukrainian drones struck a Russian oil refinery once every three days during the first eight months of 2026, hitting targets as far as 2,500 kilometres inside Russia. By late August, 27 of Russia’s 32 major refineries had been attacked, some as many as 15 times, contributing to a collapse in Russian diesel production of nearly 30% compared with 2025.

So when Trump demanded “six times” that Zelensky stop his drone attacks on Russian oil refineries, Zelensky said he would only acquiesce if Trump got Putin to stop hitting Ukrainian energy infrastructure.

Winter temperatures in Ukraine can fall below minus 20 degrees Celsius. Last winter, Russian attacks repeatedly destroyed electricity and heating infrastructure, leaving millions of Ukrainians with power for only a few hours a day and hundreds of thousands without reliable heating. Thousands of Ukrainians were hospitalised with hypothermia or frostbite, and many elderly and vulnerable people died.

Intelligence services have warned that Putin intends to systematically target the same energy infrastructure this winter, attempting to make life intolerable for Ukrainian civilians.

Trump was being asked to put pressure on Russia so that Ukrainian civilians didn’t have to suffer. He could have applied this pressure several ways, like threatening to provide billions in military aid to Ukraine if Putin didn’t stop these kinds of strikes. Instead… Trump just gave Putin $7 billion…

This deal won’t make any real difference to the price of diesel in the USA. If Trump really wanted to bring those prices down he could increase supply from Canada… but of course, Canada is now the enemy… Putin is not.

Russia will gain the foreign currency it desperately needs, Trump shifts the narrative on who is to blame for the price of diesel, but it also sends a very clear message to Zelensky.

Trump hasn’t just cut off military aid, he’s now in business with Putin… in case there was any doubt before… the USA has switched sides.

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Date: 11/10/2026 15:34:15
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2437926
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

President Donald Trump on Saturday floated the idea of renaming more bodies of water, following his efforts to change the names of the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario.

“We’ve got the gulf. We’ve got a beautiful lake,” Trump said at a rally in Clarksville, Tennessee. “Now, somebody said, you need a river. … We need a river. We need an ocean.”

Trump mused that he could rebrand either the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean, and he appeared to joke that the new name could be in honor of him.

“We call it ‘Trump Ocean’ or, or, ‘Ocean of the Americas,’ something like that,” Trump said to some laughter and applause. “Before I get out, I think we should have an ocean. And we need a great river.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/10/10/trump-suggests-ocean-americas-new-name-atlantic-or-pacific/

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Date: 11/10/2026 16:10:19
From: party_pants
ID: 2437933
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

AussieDJ said:


From Carrick Ryan (Facebook)

Link

To understand the gravity of what this means, it’s necessary to first understand an under appreciated, and perhaps counter-intuitive aspect of US doctrine towards Ukraine.

For the first half of the war, President Biden proactively used aid to control Ukraine. He gave the Ukrainian military enough advanced weaponry to defend themselves, but nothing that could help them actually win the war.

The fear was that the prospect of a humiliating military capitulation for Russia would trigger an extreme response from Putin. Biden wanted Ukraine to survive, but he didn’t actually want Putin’s regime to fall.

Believe it or not, the men that Putin has elevated to positions of power around him are far more ideologically hostile to the West than Putin is, and a Balkanisation of the Russian Federation would not just be a humanitarian disaster, it would destabilise the entire Eurasian continent.

Imagine the break-up of Yugoslavia and the Chechen Wars on an unfathomable scale.

Because the USA was the biggest source of military and financial aid for Ukraine, committing almost US$66 billion in military assistance over Biden’s presidency, Washington had significant influence over everything Ukraine did in the war.

Biden could dictate to Zelensky what rules he had to play by, most pertinently refusing to allow Ukraine to conduct strikes on Russian territory.

Trump stopped the military aid in March 2025. The European Union filled the gap, and Kyiv just figured out how to innovate. The Ukrainian military still get a lot of help from US companies, especially Palantir and Starkink, (sic) but Trump isn’t signing any more aid bills, and Zelensky knows that he is far more popular in the USA than Trump.

So, no longer restrained by Washington, Ukraine developed their own long range strike capabilities, sending drone swarms to deep into the Russian heartland. Ukrainian drones struck a Russian oil refinery once every three days during the first eight months of 2026, hitting targets as far as 2,500 kilometres inside Russia. By late August, 27 of Russia’s 32 major refineries had been attacked, some as many as 15 times, contributing to a collapse in Russian diesel production of nearly 30% compared with 2025.

So when Trump demanded “six times” that Zelensky stop his drone attacks on Russian oil refineries, Zelensky said he would only acquiesce if Trump got Putin to stop hitting Ukrainian energy infrastructure.

Winter temperatures in Ukraine can fall below minus 20 degrees Celsius. Last winter, Russian attacks repeatedly destroyed electricity and heating infrastructure, leaving millions of Ukrainians with power for only a few hours a day and hundreds of thousands without reliable heating. Thousands of Ukrainians were hospitalised with hypothermia or frostbite, and many elderly and vulnerable people died.

Intelligence services have warned that Putin intends to systematically target the same energy infrastructure this winter, attempting to make life intolerable for Ukrainian civilians.

Trump was being asked to put pressure on Russia so that Ukrainian civilians didn’t have to suffer. He could have applied this pressure several ways, like threatening to provide billions in military aid to Ukraine if Putin didn’t stop these kinds of strikes. Instead… Trump just gave Putin $7 billion…

This deal won’t make any real difference to the price of diesel in the USA. If Trump really wanted to bring those prices down he could increase supply from Canada… but of course, Canada is now the enemy… Putin is not.

Russia will gain the foreign currency it desperately needs, Trump shifts the narrative on who is to blame for the price of diesel, but it also sends a very clear message to Zelensky.

Trump hasn’t just cut off military aid, he’s now in business with Putin… in case there was any doubt before… the USA has switched sides.

This could be the end of MATO too. The Europeans are dead against the idea of a Russian “sphere of influence” in their region, let alone any of them falling under Russian control. They will continue to back Ukraine in the process of the steady deindustrialisation of Russia by long range drone attacks. Any end to the war on favourable terms for Russia would be unacceptable for them because they know they will be next. This could split NATO into separate US and European factions.

It’s easy for the US to concede someone else’s territory to Russia. Particularly disgusting if it is done for the sake of US domestic politics. It is existential for much of eastern and central Europe. Poland and Germany really need their own nukes too.

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Date: 11/10/2026 16:35:48
From: Michael V
ID: 2437937
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


AussieDJ said:

From Carrick Ryan (Facebook)

Link

To understand the gravity of what this means, it’s necessary to first understand an under appreciated, and perhaps counter-intuitive aspect of US doctrine towards Ukraine.

For the first half of the war, President Biden proactively used aid to control Ukraine. He gave the Ukrainian military enough advanced weaponry to defend themselves, but nothing that could help them actually win the war.

The fear was that the prospect of a humiliating military capitulation for Russia would trigger an extreme response from Putin. Biden wanted Ukraine to survive, but he didn’t actually want Putin’s regime to fall.

Believe it or not, the men that Putin has elevated to positions of power around him are far more ideologically hostile to the West than Putin is, and a Balkanisation of the Russian Federation would not just be a humanitarian disaster, it would destabilise the entire Eurasian continent.

Imagine the break-up of Yugoslavia and the Chechen Wars on an unfathomable scale.

Because the USA was the biggest source of military and financial aid for Ukraine, committing almost US$66 billion in military assistance over Biden’s presidency, Washington had significant influence over everything Ukraine did in the war.

Biden could dictate to Zelensky what rules he had to play by, most pertinently refusing to allow Ukraine to conduct strikes on Russian territory.

Trump stopped the military aid in March 2025. The European Union filled the gap, and Kyiv just figured out how to innovate. The Ukrainian military still get a lot of help from US companies, especially Palantir and Starkink, (sic) but Trump isn’t signing any more aid bills, and Zelensky knows that he is far more popular in the USA than Trump.

So, no longer restrained by Washington, Ukraine developed their own long range strike capabilities, sending drone swarms to deep into the Russian heartland. Ukrainian drones struck a Russian oil refinery once every three days during the first eight months of 2026, hitting targets as far as 2,500 kilometres inside Russia. By late August, 27 of Russia’s 32 major refineries had been attacked, some as many as 15 times, contributing to a collapse in Russian diesel production of nearly 30% compared with 2025.

So when Trump demanded “six times” that Zelensky stop his drone attacks on Russian oil refineries, Zelensky said he would only acquiesce if Trump got Putin to stop hitting Ukrainian energy infrastructure.

Winter temperatures in Ukraine can fall below minus 20 degrees Celsius. Last winter, Russian attacks repeatedly destroyed electricity and heating infrastructure, leaving millions of Ukrainians with power for only a few hours a day and hundreds of thousands without reliable heating. Thousands of Ukrainians were hospitalised with hypothermia or frostbite, and many elderly and vulnerable people died.

Intelligence services have warned that Putin intends to systematically target the same energy infrastructure this winter, attempting to make life intolerable for Ukrainian civilians.

Trump was being asked to put pressure on Russia so that Ukrainian civilians didn’t have to suffer. He could have applied this pressure several ways, like threatening to provide billions in military aid to Ukraine if Putin didn’t stop these kinds of strikes. Instead… Trump just gave Putin $7 billion…

This deal won’t make any real difference to the price of diesel in the USA. If Trump really wanted to bring those prices down he could increase supply from Canada… but of course, Canada is now the enemy… Putin is not.

Russia will gain the foreign currency it desperately needs, Trump shifts the narrative on who is to blame for the price of diesel, but it also sends a very clear message to Zelensky.

Trump hasn’t just cut off military aid, he’s now in business with Putin… in case there was any doubt before… the USA has switched sides.

This could be the end of MATO too. The Europeans are dead against the idea of a Russian “sphere of influence” in their region, let alone any of them falling under Russian control. They will continue to back Ukraine in the process of the steady deindustrialisation of Russia by long range drone attacks. Any end to the war on favourable terms for Russia would be unacceptable for them because they know they will be next. This could split NATO into separate US and European factions.

It’s easy for the US to concede someone else’s territory to Russia. Particularly disgusting if it is done for the sake of US domestic politics. It is existential for much of eastern and central Europe. Poland and Germany really need their own nukes too.

Trump doesn’t care.

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Date: 11/10/2026 16:38:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2437938
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

AussieDJ said:

From Carrick Ryan (Facebook)

Link

To understand the gravity of what this means, it’s necessary to first understand an under appreciated, and perhaps counter-intuitive aspect of US doctrine towards Ukraine.

For the first half of the war, President Biden proactively used aid to control Ukraine. He gave the Ukrainian military enough advanced weaponry to defend themselves, but nothing that could help them actually win the war.

The fear was that the prospect of a humiliating military capitulation for Russia would trigger an extreme response from Putin. Biden wanted Ukraine to survive, but he didn’t actually want Putin’s regime to fall.

Believe it or not, the men that Putin has elevated to positions of power around him are far more ideologically hostile to the West than Putin is, and a Balkanisation of the Russian Federation would not just be a humanitarian disaster, it would destabilise the entire Eurasian continent.

Imagine the break-up of Yugoslavia and the Chechen Wars on an unfathomable scale.

Because the USA was the biggest source of military and financial aid for Ukraine, committing almost US$66 billion in military assistance over Biden’s presidency, Washington had significant influence over everything Ukraine did in the war.

Biden could dictate to Zelensky what rules he had to play by, most pertinently refusing to allow Ukraine to conduct strikes on Russian territory.

Trump stopped the military aid in March 2025. The European Union filled the gap, and Kyiv just figured out how to innovate. The Ukrainian military still get a lot of help from US companies, especially Palantir and Starkink, (sic) but Trump isn’t signing any more aid bills, and Zelensky knows that he is far more popular in the USA than Trump.

So, no longer restrained by Washington, Ukraine developed their own long range strike capabilities, sending drone swarms to deep into the Russian heartland. Ukrainian drones struck a Russian oil refinery once every three days during the first eight months of 2026, hitting targets as far as 2,500 kilometres inside Russia. By late August, 27 of Russia’s 32 major refineries had been attacked, some as many as 15 times, contributing to a collapse in Russian diesel production of nearly 30% compared with 2025.

So when Trump demanded “six times” that Zelensky stop his drone attacks on Russian oil refineries, Zelensky said he would only acquiesce if Trump got Putin to stop hitting Ukrainian energy infrastructure.

Winter temperatures in Ukraine can fall below minus 20 degrees Celsius. Last winter, Russian attacks repeatedly destroyed electricity and heating infrastructure, leaving millions of Ukrainians with power for only a few hours a day and hundreds of thousands without reliable heating. Thousands of Ukrainians were hospitalised with hypothermia or frostbite, and many elderly and vulnerable people died.

Intelligence services have warned that Putin intends to systematically target the same energy infrastructure this winter, attempting to make life intolerable for Ukrainian civilians.

Trump was being asked to put pressure on Russia so that Ukrainian civilians didn’t have to suffer. He could have applied this pressure several ways, like threatening to provide billions in military aid to Ukraine if Putin didn’t stop these kinds of strikes. Instead… Trump just gave Putin $7 billion…

This deal won’t make any real difference to the price of diesel in the USA. If Trump really wanted to bring those prices down he could increase supply from Canada… but of course, Canada is now the enemy… Putin is not.

Russia will gain the foreign currency it desperately needs, Trump shifts the narrative on who is to blame for the price of diesel, but it also sends a very clear message to Zelensky.

Trump hasn’t just cut off military aid, he’s now in business with Putin… in case there was any doubt before… the USA has switched sides.

This could be the end of MATO too. The Europeans are dead against the idea of a Russian “sphere of influence” in their region, let alone any of them falling under Russian control. They will continue to back Ukraine in the process of the steady deindustrialisation of Russia by long range drone attacks. Any end to the war on favourable terms for Russia would be unacceptable for them because they know they will be next. This could split NATO into separate US and European factions.

It’s easy for the US to concede someone else’s territory to Russia. Particularly disgusting if it is done for the sake of US domestic politics. It is existential for much of eastern and central Europe. Poland and Germany really need their own nukes too.

Trump doesn’t care.

He was going to end the war in a day, now he’s funding it.

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Date: 11/10/2026 16:53:53
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2437941
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


AussieDJ said:

From Carrick Ryan (Facebook)

Link

To understand the gravity of what this means, it’s necessary to first understand an under appreciated, and perhaps counter-intuitive aspect of US doctrine towards Ukraine.

For the first half of the war, President Biden proactively used aid to control Ukraine. He gave the Ukrainian military enough advanced weaponry to defend themselves, but nothing that could help them actually win the war.

The fear was that the prospect of a humiliating military capitulation for Russia would trigger an extreme response from Putin. Biden wanted Ukraine to survive, but he didn’t actually want Putin’s regime to fall.

Believe it or not, the men that Putin has elevated to positions of power around him are far more ideologically hostile to the West than Putin is, and a Balkanisation of the Russian Federation would not just be a humanitarian disaster, it would destabilise the entire Eurasian continent.

Imagine the break-up of Yugoslavia and the Chechen Wars on an unfathomable scale.

Because the USA was the biggest source of military and financial aid for Ukraine, committing almost US$66 billion in military assistance over Biden’s presidency, Washington had significant influence over everything Ukraine did in the war.

Biden could dictate to Zelensky what rules he had to play by, most pertinently refusing to allow Ukraine to conduct strikes on Russian territory.

Trump stopped the military aid in March 2025. The European Union filled the gap, and Kyiv just figured out how to innovate. The Ukrainian military still get a lot of help from US companies, especially Palantir and Starkink, (sic) but Trump isn’t signing any more aid bills, and Zelensky knows that he is far more popular in the USA than Trump.

So, no longer restrained by Washington, Ukraine developed their own long range strike capabilities, sending drone swarms to deep into the Russian heartland. Ukrainian drones struck a Russian oil refinery once every three days during the first eight months of 2026, hitting targets as far as 2,500 kilometres inside Russia. By late August, 27 of Russia’s 32 major refineries had been attacked, some as many as 15 times, contributing to a collapse in Russian diesel production of nearly 30% compared with 2025.

So when Trump demanded “six times” that Zelensky stop his drone attacks on Russian oil refineries, Zelensky said he would only acquiesce if Trump got Putin to stop hitting Ukrainian energy infrastructure.

Winter temperatures in Ukraine can fall below minus 20 degrees Celsius. Last winter, Russian attacks repeatedly destroyed electricity and heating infrastructure, leaving millions of Ukrainians with power for only a few hours a day and hundreds of thousands without reliable heating. Thousands of Ukrainians were hospitalised with hypothermia or frostbite, and many elderly and vulnerable people died.

Intelligence services have warned that Putin intends to systematically target the same energy infrastructure this winter, attempting to make life intolerable for Ukrainian civilians.

Trump was being asked to put pressure on Russia so that Ukrainian civilians didn’t have to suffer. He could have applied this pressure several ways, like threatening to provide billions in military aid to Ukraine if Putin didn’t stop these kinds of strikes. Instead… Trump just gave Putin $7 billion…

This deal won’t make any real difference to the price of diesel in the USA. If Trump really wanted to bring those prices down he could increase supply from Canada… but of course, Canada is now the enemy… Putin is not.

Russia will gain the foreign currency it desperately needs, Trump shifts the narrative on who is to blame for the price of diesel, but it also sends a very clear message to Zelensky.

Trump hasn’t just cut off military aid, he’s now in business with Putin… in case there was any doubt before… the USA has switched sides.

This could be the end of MATO too. The Europeans are dead against the idea of a Russian “sphere of influence” in their region, let alone any of them falling under Russian control. They will continue to back Ukraine in the process of the steady deindustrialisation of Russia by long range drone attacks. Any end to the war on favourable terms for Russia would be unacceptable for them because they know they will be next. This could split NATO into separate US and European factions.

It’s easy for the US to concede someone else’s territory to Russia. Particularly disgusting if it is done for the sake of US domestic politics. It is existential for much of eastern and central Europe. Poland and Germany really need their own nukes too.

The only thing that would “end” NATO would be for the US to leave. Note that the POTUS cannot unilaterally exit NATO, as membership is enshrined in legislation. It would essentially require a two thirds majority in Congress (and that’s not gonna happen).

I think what is more likely is that the European Union will create a separate military alliance in addition to NATO.

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Date: 11/10/2026 16:58:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2437942
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:

Poland and Germany really need their own nukes too.

I reckon that the Germans could manage nuclear weapons ok.

The Poles…not so sure.

They’re brave and intelligent, and logical.

Up to a point.

After that, some sort of red mist envelopes them, and it’s damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!

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Date: 11/10/2026 17:42:10
From: dv
ID: 2437947
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Was he trying to tank the stock

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Date: 11/10/2026 18:38:38
From: ms spock
ID: 2437960
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Was he trying to tank the stock

He’s insane too. He got over $40 million dollars of American taxpayer’s money. He should give it back.

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Date: 11/10/2026 18:40:55
From: ms spock
ID: 2437962
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


dv said:

Was he trying to tank the stock

He’s insane too. He got over $40 million dollars of American taxpayer’s money. He should give it back.

Sorry that is billion.

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Date: 11/10/2026 20:06:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437982
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


ms spock said:

dv said:

Was he trying to tank the stock

He’s insane too. He got over $40 million dollars of American taxpayer’s money. He should give it back.

Sorry that is billion.

fk bydgeelygwmhaval and all those ASIAN vehicles that could be remote controlled

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Date: 11/10/2026 20:09:46
From: ms spock
ID: 2437983
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Hangings or lynchings?

Link

2 minutes

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Date: 11/10/2026 20:17:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437985
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

This could be the end of MATO too. The Europeans are dead against the idea of a Russian “sphere of influence” in their region, let alone any of them falling under Russian control. They will continue to back Ukraine in the process of the steady deindustrialisation of Russia by long range drone attacks. Any end to the war on favourable terms for Russia would be unacceptable for them because they know they will be next. This could split NATO into separate US and European factions.

It’s easy for the US to concede someone else’s territory to Russia. Particularly disgusting if it is done for the sake of US domestic politics. It is existential for much of eastern and central Europe. Poland and Germany really need their own nukes too.

Trump doesn’t care.

He was going to end the war in a day, now he’s funding it.

well the problem is the high population density countries with ridiculous industrial overcapacity

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Date: 11/10/2026 20:19:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2437986
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

President Donald Trump on Saturday floated the idea of renaming more bodies of water, following his efforts to change the names of the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario.

“We’ve got the gulf. We’ve got a beautiful lake,” Trump said at a rally in Clarksville, Tennessee. “Now, somebody said, you need a river. … We need a river. We need an ocean.”

Trump mused that he could rebrand either the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean, and he appeared to joke that the new name could be in honor of him.

“We call it ‘Trump Ocean’ or, or, ‘Ocean of the Americas,’ something like that,” Trump said to some laughter and applause. “Before I get out, I think we should have an ocean. And we need a great river.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/10/10/trump-suggests-ocean-americas-new-name-atlantic-or-pacific/

how about oh we don’t know epstein island

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Date: 11/10/2026 20:25:22
From: ruby
ID: 2437987
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

President Donald Trump on Saturday floated the idea of renaming more bodies of water, following his efforts to change the names of the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario.

“We’ve got the gulf. We’ve got a beautiful lake,” Trump said at a rally in Clarksville, Tennessee. “Now, somebody said, you need a river. … We need a river. We need an ocean.”

Trump mused that he could rebrand either the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean, and he appeared to joke that the new name could be in honor of him.

“We call it ‘Trump Ocean’ or, or, ‘Ocean of the Americas,’ something like that,” Trump said to some laughter and applause. “Before I get out, I think we should have an ocean. And we need a great river.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/10/10/trump-suggests-ocean-americas-new-name-atlantic-or-pacific/

how about oh we don’t know epstein island

Heh heh yeah

Epstein Swamp
Trump Bog

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Date: 11/10/2026 21:11:41
From: ms spock
ID: 2437999
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

_Dr Bandy X Lee’s origin story of why she became a psychiatrist and worked with violent offenders and her successes which have impacted around the world._

Link

She runs free lectures and courses.

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Date: 11/10/2026 22:32:58
From: dv
ID: 2438017
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 11/10/2026 23:40:01
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2438028
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 11/10/2026 23:43:28
From: Kingy
ID: 2438032
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:



I hope so.

Maybe actual real people could get to vote according to their conscience without interference.

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Date: 11/10/2026 23:46:05
From: dv
ID: 2438033
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 11/10/2026 23:51:04
From: Kingy
ID: 2438034
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



There’s a fair chance that Star Wars was written from historical data, projected into the future timeline that we are currently in.

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Date: 11/10/2026 23:57:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438035
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Easy to tell which is White House and which is Star Wars.

In the Star Wars ones, the fat one is awake.

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Date: 12/10/2026 00:10:17
From: kii
ID: 2438038
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Lololol 😹 😹 😹
Perfect.

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Date: 12/10/2026 06:35:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438052
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


dv said:


Easy to tell which is White House and which is Star Wars.

In the Star Wars ones, the fat one is awake.

but are they woke

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Date: 12/10/2026 06:37:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438053
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Kingy said:

JudgeMental said:


I hope so.

Maybe actual real people could get to vote according to their conscience without interference.

“disrupt” as in being controlled by Russian bots is the natural state of affairs

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Date: 12/10/2026 09:47:12
From: dv
ID: 2438084
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Probably the most coherent thing he’s posted all month.

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Date: 12/10/2026 12:03:17
From: kii
ID: 2438097
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

“Anyways, I’m endorsed by Donald Trump and mayonnaise.”

Perfect.

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Date: 12/10/2026 12:11:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438102
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


“Anyways, I’m endorsed by Donald Trump and mayonnaise.”

Perfect.

The mayonnaise is the brains of the outfit.

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Date: 12/10/2026 13:35:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438124
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

kii said:

“Anyways, I’m endorsed by Donald Trump and mayonnaise.”

Perfect.

The mayonnaise is the brains of the outfit.

alleged

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Date: 12/10/2026 13:45:53
From: ms spock
ID: 2438126
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

“Anyways, I’m endorsed by Donald Trump and mayonnaise.”

Perfect.

The mayonnaise is the brains of the outfit.

Finally with the mayonnaise in the room, there is hope for the world again.

(((breathes a sigh of relief)))

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Date: 12/10/2026 14:40:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 2438144
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

US President Donald Trump says a new deal with Russia will lower diesel prices, but experts say it won’t “move the dial” on costs for consumers.

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Date: 12/10/2026 14:55:12
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438153
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


US President Donald Trump says a new deal with Russia will lower diesel prices, but experts say it won’t “move the dial” on costs for consumers.


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Date: 12/10/2026 15:31:48
From: Cymek
ID: 2438185
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


US President Donald Trump says a new deal with Russia will lower diesel prices, but experts say it won’t “move the dial” on costs for consumers.


I always find it quite strange that you can be at war or supplying weapons to the enemy of your enemy but can still do economic type stuff.
Big fucking elephant in the room you both ignore

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Date: 12/10/2026 15:33:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438186
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

US President Donald Trump says a new deal with Russia will lower diesel prices, but experts say it won’t “move the dial” on costs for consumers.


I always find it quite strange that you can be at war or supplying weapons to the enemy of your enemy but can still do economic type stuff.
Big fucking elephant in the room you both ignore

how is making money off both sides of a conflict strange ¿ when it’s apex capitalism

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Date: 12/10/2026 15:48:01
From: Cymek
ID: 2438190
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

US President Donald Trump says a new deal with Russia will lower diesel prices, but experts say it won’t “move the dial” on costs for consumers.


I always find it quite strange that you can be at war or supplying weapons to the enemy of your enemy but can still do economic type stuff.
Big fucking elephant in the room you both ignore

how is making money off both sides of a conflict strange ¿ when it’s apex capitalism

Its not but man its hypocrisy 101

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Date: 12/10/2026 15:51:58
From: Neophyte
ID: 2438193
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

US President Donald Trump says a new deal with Russia will lower diesel prices, but experts say it won’t “move the dial” on costs for consumers.


I always find it quite strange that you can be at war or supplying weapons to the enemy of your enemy but can still do economic type stuff.
Big fucking elephant in the room you both ignore

Good thing he never reads otherwise he might take a leaf from “Catch-22” and have Putin farm out fighting Ukraine to the US military

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Date: 12/10/2026 16:00:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438199
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

US President Donald Trump says a new deal with Russia will lower diesel prices, but experts say it won’t “move the dial” on costs for consumers.


I always find it quite strange that you can be at war or supplying weapons to the enemy of your enemy but can still do economic type stuff.
Big fucking elephant in the room you both ignore

Good thing he never reads otherwise he might take a leaf from “Catch-22” and have Putin farm out fighting Ukraine to the US military

There’s an idea. Outsource the war.

Russia hires the Ukrainians to fight against themselves, the Ukrainians immediately declare a cease-fire, they negotiate with themselves, reach a deal with themselves, war’s over.

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Date: 12/10/2026 16:06:50
From: dv
ID: 2438205
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/515071/report-tim-kennedy-shot-three-times-while-working-private-security-in-the-democratic-republic-of-the-congo

This headline

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Date: 12/10/2026 16:08:18
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2438207
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Souljaboy throws his hat into the ring for 2028 US President.

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Date: 12/10/2026 16:09:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438209
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

https://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/515071/report-tim-kennedy-shot-three-times-while-working-private-security-in-the-democratic-republic-of-the-congo

This headline

how would you improve it

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Date: 12/10/2026 16:12:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438212
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

I always find it quite strange that you can be at war or supplying weapons to the enemy of your enemy but can still do economic type stuff.
Big fucking elephant in the room you both ignore

how is making money off both sides of a conflict strange ¿ when it’s apex capitalism

Its not but man its hypocrisy 101

only if your underlying objective is healthy friendly relations, but what if it’s simply getting rich

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Date: 12/10/2026 16:14:54
From: Cymek
ID: 2438214
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

how is making money off both sides of a conflict strange ¿ when it’s apex capitalism

Its not but man its hypocrisy 101

only if your underlying objective is healthy friendly relations, but what if it’s simply getting rich

Anything goes if you want to become rich.

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Date: 12/10/2026 16:36:55
From: ms spock
ID: 2438222
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

US President Donald Trump says a new deal with Russia will lower diesel prices, but experts say it won’t “move the dial” on costs for consumers.


I always find it quite strange that you can be at war or supplying weapons to the enemy of your enemy but can still do economic type stuff.
Big fucking elephant in the room you both ignore

It is a real disconnect.

Like they spilt off from part of what they are doing.

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Date: 12/10/2026 17:05:50
From: ms spock
ID: 2438241
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

how is making money off both sides of a conflict strange ¿ when it’s apex capitalism

Its not but man its hypocrisy 101

only if your underlying objective is healthy friendly relations, but what if it’s simply getting rich

That’s probably more accurate than my disconnect theory.

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Date: 12/10/2026 17:24:17
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2438251
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Oh no, that’s sounds terrible 🙄 almost like they acknowledge what’s happening inside the Trump administration…

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Date: 12/10/2026 17:49:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 2438258
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

US President Donald Trump says a new deal with Russia will lower diesel prices, but experts say it won’t “move the dial” on costs for consumers.


I always find it quite strange that you can be at war or supplying weapons to the enemy of your enemy but can still do economic type stuff.
Big fucking elephant in the room you both ignore

how is making money off both sides of a conflict strange ¿ when it’s apex capitalism

It has been the same through all wars.

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Date: 12/10/2026 17:52:25
From: Neophyte
ID: 2438260
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

I always find it quite strange that you can be at war or supplying weapons to the enemy of your enemy but can still do economic type stuff.
Big fucking elephant in the room you both ignore

how is making money off both sides of a conflict strange ¿ when it’s apex capitalism

It has been the same through all wars.

Basic plot of a lot of westerns – supply guns to both the army and them Injuns, and let ‘em at it.

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Date: 12/10/2026 18:02:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 2438265
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

how is making money off both sides of a conflict strange ¿ when it’s apex capitalism

It has been the same through all wars.

Basic plot of a lot of westerns – supply guns to both the army and them Injuns, and let ‘em at it.

There’s a st somewhere of the businesses doing business on both sides during WWII.

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Date: 12/10/2026 18:12:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438269
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

Oh no, that’s sounds terrible 🙄 almost like they acknowledge what’s happening inside the Trump administration…


when International rules based law and order are actually just team sports

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Date: 12/10/2026 22:21:01
From: kii
ID: 2438325
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Dr Bandy Lee Assesses Trump’s Plan to Subvert the Midterm Elections.

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Date: 12/10/2026 22:39:10
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2438340
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Apparently RFK jr is going all in on peptides and wants to legalise the sale of the unregulated snake oil. Who’d have thunk it..

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Date: 12/10/2026 22:44:19
From: party_pants
ID: 2438345
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Apparently RFK jr is going all in on peptides and wants to legalise the sale of the unregulated snake oil. Who’d have thunk it..

me

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Date: 12/10/2026 22:58:37
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2438351
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Apparently RFK jr is going all in on peptides and wants to legalise the sale of the unregulated snake oil. Who’d have thunk it..

me

Sorry that might not have been clear. He wants to make it legal to sell peptides that would previously have needed to be regulated. I guess he thinks the magical appellation ‘peptide’ means it couldn’t possibly be bad for you.

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Date: 12/10/2026 23:02:55
From: party_pants
ID: 2438354
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Apparently RFK jr is going all in on peptides and wants to legalise the sale of the unregulated snake oil. Who’d have thunk it..

me

Sorry that might not have been clear. He wants to make it legal to sell peptides that would previously have needed to be regulated. I guess he thinks the magical appellation ‘peptide’ means it couldn’t possibly be bad for you.

I had pre-thunk it that he would promote crackpottery and woo-woo, and try to turn this into official government health policy.

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Date: 12/10/2026 23:03:47
From: ms spock
ID: 2438355
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Dr Bandy Lee Assesses Trump’s Plan to Subvert the Midterm Elections.

I haven’t listened to that one yet.

I have been watching Danielle Moodie and Wajahat Ali this morning.

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Date: 12/10/2026 23:10:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438359
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Apparently RFK jr is going all in on peptides and wants to legalise the sale of the unregulated snake oil. Who’d have thunk it..

me

Sorry that might not have been clear. He wants to make it legal to sell peptides that would previously have needed to be regulated. I guess he thinks the magical appellation ‘peptide’ means it couldn’t possibly be bad for you.

Probably the next step in Trump’s ‘health plan’. First step: stop giving all that money to health insurance companies, give it directly to the citizens so they can buy their own health insurance.

From…health insurance companies?

Next step, cut out the reliance on doctors. All drugs, medications, preparations, concoctions, you name it, all for open sale, across the counter. Start with peptides, and go from there.You want cattle tick treatment to dose your kids with? Sure, here you go. Oxycodone for your sore toe? No problem, you want the big packet?

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Date: 12/10/2026 23:11:22
From: kii
ID: 2438360
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 12/10/2026 23:30:28
From: kii
ID: 2438366
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Dr Bandy Lee Assesses Trump’s Plan to Subvert the Midterm Elections.

Anthony Davis said exactly what I have noted several times. Trump’s comedic skills.

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Date: 12/10/2026 23:34:04
From: dv
ID: 2438368
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 12/10/2026 23:35:12
From: dv
ID: 2438369
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


kii said:

Dr Bandy Lee Assesses Trump’s Plan to Subvert the Midterm Elections.

Anthony Davis said exactly what I have noted several times. Trump’s comedic skills.

What about em?

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Date: 12/10/2026 23:36:11
From: kii
ID: 2438370
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


kii said:

kii said:

Dr Bandy Lee Assesses Trump’s Plan to Subvert the Midterm Elections.

Anthony Davis said exactly what I have noted several times. Trump’s comedic skills.

What about em?

That they’re excellent.

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Date: 12/10/2026 23:58:01
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438371
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:

kii said:

Anthony Davis said exactly what I have noted several times. Trump’s comedic skills.

What about em?

That they’re excellent.

Unintentionally, no doubt.

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Date: 13/10/2026 00:12:34
From: dv
ID: 2438377
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:

kii said:

Anthony Davis said exactly what I have noted several times. Trump’s comedic skills.

What about em?

That they’re excellent.

That’s certainly a hot take. I think he kind of doesn’t understand humour.

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Date: 13/10/2026 00:52:20
From: kii
ID: 2438381
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


kii said:

dv said:

What about em?

That they’re excellent.

That’s certainly a hot take. I think he kind of doesn’t understand humour.

He doesn’t. The performance and his timing and response to the audience. Have you watched the interview?

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Date: 13/10/2026 01:19:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438383
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

dv said:

kii said:

That they’re excellent.

That’s certainly a hot take. I think he kind of doesn’t understand humour.

He doesn’t. The performance and his timing and response to the audience. Have you watched the interview?

we mean

https://youtu.be/D4Yklyzc9K4?t=3111

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Date: 13/10/2026 05:59:03
From: dv
ID: 2438391
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:

kii said:

That they’re excellent.

That’s certainly a hot take. I think he kind of doesn’t understand humour.

He doesn’t. The performance and his timing and response to the audience. Have you watched the interview?

Hell na, that’s like an hour.

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Date: 13/10/2026 06:58:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438394
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

kii said:

dv said:

That’s certainly a hot take. I think he kind of doesn’t understand humour.

He doesn’t. The performance and his timing and response to the audience. Have you watched the interview?

Hell na, that’s like an hour.

what about skimming the transcript or just watching 5 seconds we linked

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Date: 13/10/2026 07:16:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438399
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-13/ice-raid-illhan-omar-trump-democrat/107258572

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Date: 13/10/2026 07:41:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2438404
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-13/ice-raid-illhan-omar-trump-democrat/107258572

Its an abuse of power.

Trump has this creepy obsession with clinging on to perceived enemies, to abuse and disrespect them in public.

Very unethical behaviour for a president.

I guess it’s all normal to him.

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Date: 13/10/2026 08:22:33
From: Michael V
ID: 2438412
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

dv said:

That’s certainly a hot take. I think he kind of doesn’t understand humour.

He doesn’t. The performance and his timing and response to the audience. Have you watched the interview?

we mean

https://youtu.be/D4Yklyzc9K4?t=3111

Ta.

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Date: 13/10/2026 08:52:41
From: Michael V
ID: 2438416
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Bloody Musk.

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Date: 13/10/2026 08:54:30
From: Michael V
ID: 2438417
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Apparently RFK jr is going all in on peptides and wants to legalise the sale of the unregulated snake oil. Who’d have thunk it..

!!!

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Date: 13/10/2026 09:19:54
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2438425
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Seems like a lovely chap.

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Date: 13/10/2026 09:26:34
From: ms spock
ID: 2438427
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-13/ice-raid-illhan-omar-trump-democrat/107258572

When the trickle down effect actually works.

_Last week, Mr Trump called Michigan’s Democratic nominee for the US Senate — Abdul El-Sayed, who is ⁠Muslim — a “RADICAL Extremist” and “Terrorist Sympathizer” while offering support for Mr El-Sayed’s Republican opponent, Mike Rogers.

Civil rights advocates have criticised Mr Trump’s rhetoric toward minorities and immigrants, including when he previously called Somalis “garbage.”

Mr Trump in February said Ms Omar and Democratic Representative Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, who is also Muslim, should be “institutionalised” and sent back to “where they came from”._

The Democracts went all out and condemned the raid. Wow that’s going to have such a big impact. It’s not like they don’t have access to the Mitch McConnell handbook on how to be extremely disruptive. McConnell gave a Master Class in doing that.

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Date: 13/10/2026 09:59:46
From: Michael V
ID: 2438432
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Seems like a lovely chap.

Absolutely charming.

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Date: 13/10/2026 13:13:43
From: dv
ID: 2438476
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 13/10/2026 13:20:04
From: kii
ID: 2438483
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Extra lololols.

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Date: 13/10/2026 13:58:04
From: Michael V
ID: 2438502
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



LOLz

Oh how I hope Ukraine can get their other bot-farms.

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Date: 13/10/2026 16:32:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438541
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

dv said:


LOLz

Oh how I hope Ukraine can get their other bot-farms.

but as dv say, can they reach the ussa mainland from there

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:25:35
From: kii
ID: 2438554
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Link

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:32:04
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2438557
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

3 weeks out from the midterms

As the gap continues to widen, Democrats currently lead in the generic poll by 9.5 points

The question in the House is not if the Dems will take control, but by how much. Things in the Senate still lean Dems, but there are a few key races where the margin is moving counter to trends in the generic poll. I’m particularly concerned about Texas and Maine.

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:32:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438558
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

Seems like a lovely chap.

Absolutely charming.

how good is protected speech and freedom

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:36:08
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2438559
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Seems like a lovely chap.

Absolutely charming.

how good is protected speech and freedom

I mean we have people here that enthusiastically call for the death of American politicians.. so this should be by-the-by for the good ol’ SSSF Holiday Forum

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:37:36
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2438560
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Absolutely charming.

how good is protected speech and freedom

I mean we have people here that enthusiastically call for the death of American politicians.. so this should be by-the-by for the good ol’ SSSF Holiday Forum

Is it just bad because they are American?

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:41:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438562
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Absolutely charming.

how good is protected speech and freedom

I mean we have people here that enthusiastically call for the death of American politicians.. so this should be by-the-by for the good ol’ SSSF Holiday Forum

oh what do they say

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:49:29
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2438565
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


diddly-squat said:

SCIENCE said:

how good is protected speech and freedom

I mean we have people here that enthusiastically call for the death of American politicians.. so this should be by-the-by for the good ol’ SSSF Holiday Forum

oh what do they say

all republicans need to be shot!

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:51:27
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2438567
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


SCIENCE said:

diddly-squat said:

I mean we have people here that enthusiastically call for the death of American politicians.. so this should be by-the-by for the good ol’ SSSF Holiday Forum

oh what do they say

all republicans need to be shot!

And how!

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:53:13
From: Michael V
ID: 2438568
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Link

Who was he talking about?

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:53:27
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2438569
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

oh what do they say

all republicans need to be shot!

And how!

by any weapon that fires a projectile at sufficient velocity to kill a human.

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:54:02
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2438570
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

Link

Who was he talking about?

Me.

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:55:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438574
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Absolutely charming.

how good is protected speech and freedom

I mean we have people here that enthusiastically call for the death of American politicians.. so this should be by-the-by for the good ol’ SSSF Holiday Forum

I’d very much like to see DJT dead.

Natural causes, but dead, nonetheless.

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:56:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438575
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

Link

Who was he talking about?

He probably doesn’t know himself.

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:58:11
From: Michael V
ID: 2438576
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

kii said:

Link

Who was he talking about?

Me.

LOLOLOL

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Date: 13/10/2026 17:58:57
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2438577
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

kii said:

Link

Who was he talking about?

He probably doesn’t know himself.

Probably Don Jr. He’s on the record for finding Ivanka attractive so maybe he was just feeling gay today.

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Date: 13/10/2026 18:04:33
From: kii
ID: 2438578
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

Link

Who was he talking about?

I have nfi. He does this fairly frequently. Lusts after “big, strong men”. In public.

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Date: 13/10/2026 18:07:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438579
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Michael V said:

kii said:

Link

Who was he talking about?

I have nfi. He does this fairly frequently. Lusts after “big, strong men”. In public.

…and, while there’s nothing ‘wrong’ with that, it’s probably not the kind of thing that his devoted followers made the effort to be there to listen to.

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Date: 13/10/2026 18:15:06
From: buffy
ID: 2438580
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Who was he talking about?

He probably doesn’t know himself.

Probably Don Jr. He’s on the record for finding Ivanka attractive so maybe he was just feeling gay today.

The guys in the background to not seem amused.

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Date: 13/10/2026 18:16:30
From: buffy
ID: 2438581
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

He probably doesn’t know himself.

Probably Don Jr. He’s on the record for finding Ivanka attractive so maybe he was just feeling gay today.

The guys in the background to not seem amused.

And come to think of it, how come those seats right behind him were not stacked with blonde women?

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Date: 13/10/2026 18:17:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438582
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Probably Don Jr. He’s on the record for finding Ivanka attractive so maybe he was just feeling gay today.

The guys in the background to not seem amused.

And come to think of it, how come those seats right behind him were not stacked with blonde women?

MAGAs may have learnt to keep such ladies out of sight when the Preznit is around.

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Date: 13/10/2026 18:28:12
From: kii
ID: 2438585
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

Michael V said:

Who was he talking about?

I have nfi. He does this fairly frequently. Lusts after “big, strong men”. In public.

…and, while there’s nothing ‘wrong’ with that, it’s probably not the kind of thing that his devoted followers made the effort to be there to listen to.

Exactly. Plus he’s a hypocrite. Also creepy.

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Date: 13/10/2026 18:35:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438587
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

captain_spalding said:

kii said:

I have nfi. He does this fairly frequently. Lusts after “big, strong men”. In public.

…and, while there’s nothing ‘wrong’ with that, it’s probably not the kind of thing that his devoted followers made the effort to be there to listen to.

Exactly. Plus he’s a hypocrite. Also creepy.

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Date: 13/10/2026 19:47:11
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2438615
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I found something that will tell you all the stocks and positions different politicians trade.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vi8n87oq37Q

Interesting …

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Date: 13/10/2026 19:49:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438619
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


I found something that will tell you all the stocks and positions different politicians trade.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vi8n87oq37Q

Interesting …

There’s a US govt office that publishes all of that sort of stuff on line.

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Date: 13/10/2026 19:51:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438620
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

If anyone is wondering why i’m posting a lot….

…i’ve been cooking, and i have about five minutes of sit-down time before i must attend to it all again.

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Date: 13/10/2026 20:41:33
From: dv
ID: 2438627
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.threads.com/share/BAcApEQhy0/

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Date: 13/10/2026 20:49:17
From: party_pants
ID: 2438629
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.threads.com/share/BAcApEQhy0/

the art of the deal, eh?

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Date: 13/10/2026 20:52:01
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2438630
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Albo got a great selfie one to go on the wall of his den.
Are they the same age, they look about the same.

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Date: 13/10/2026 20:52:50
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2438631
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.threads.com/share/BAcApEQhy0/

“I reject your reality and substitute my own.”

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Date: 13/10/2026 20:53:10
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2438632
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Albo got a great selfie one to go on the wall of his den.
Are they the same age, they look about the same.

I think Donald has got the better teeth though.

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Date: 13/10/2026 20:56:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438634
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

https://www.threads.com/share/BAcApEQhy0/

the art of the deal, eh?

“I reject your reality and substitute my own.”

everything anyone believes is true

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Date: 13/10/2026 20:59:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438636
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.threads.com/share/BAcApEQhy0/

Fantasyland – the happiest kingdom of them all.

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Date: 13/10/2026 20:59:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438637
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.threads.com/share/BAcApEQhy0/

Fantasyland – the happiest kingdom of them all.

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Date: 13/10/2026 21:00:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2438638
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Albo got a great selfie one to go on the wall of his den.
Are they the same age, they look about the same.

I think Donald has got the better teeth though.

And a fine head of hair.

When the wind’s in the right direction.

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Date: 14/10/2026 08:14:38
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2438722
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

Link

Who was he talking about?

Jon Husted

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Date: 14/10/2026 08:43:41
From: Michael V
ID: 2438730
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

kii said:

Link

Who was he talking about?

Jon Husted

Thanks. I had never read of him before looking him up just then.

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Date: 14/10/2026 10:57:21
From: dv
ID: 2438764
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 14/10/2026 11:10:52
From: kii
ID: 2438769
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The day the bots went silent.

Brilliant bit of AI stuff.

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Date: 14/10/2026 11:15:33
From: Michael V
ID: 2438771
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Fair call.

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Date: 14/10/2026 11:31:37
From: dv
ID: 2438778
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 14/10/2026 11:39:15
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2438780
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

>>Guilfoyle is a former Fox News Channel host and California prosecutor who was once married to California’s Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom and was engaged to Trump’s son Donald Jr.

The Greek Ambassador who has now resigned has quite a pedigree..

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Date: 14/10/2026 12:17:25
From: dv
ID: 2438784
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


>>Guilfoyle is a former Fox News Channel host and California prosecutor who was once married to California’s Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom and was engaged to Trump’s son Donald Jr.

The Greek Ambassador who has now resigned has quite a pedigree..

Well connected

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Date: 14/10/2026 12:37:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438791
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


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Date: 14/10/2026 12:38:34
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2438792
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.instagram.com/reels/Decsf-Hiqd5/

Link

thedailyshow

Incredible first day for new White House press secretary Katie Zacharia

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Date: 14/10/2026 12:41:54
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2438795
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Back in the distant past when the US president had a wee bit more dignity and professionalism.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iinIaai6Hno

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Date: 14/10/2026 12:46:05
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2438797
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Good thinking.

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Date: 14/10/2026 13:00:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2438803
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Back in the distant past when the US president had a wee bit more dignity and professionalism.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iinIaai6Hno

Nods. Good one.

:)

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Date: 14/10/2026 13:01:30
From: Michael V
ID: 2438805
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Good thinking.

Bloody brilliant!

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Date: 14/10/2026 13:22:14
From: kii
ID: 2438808
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

How many turtle doves do you owe?

So much dumb, with a b.

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Date: 14/10/2026 13:42:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438813
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

Back in the distant past when the US president had a wee bit more dignity and professionalism.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iinIaai6Hno

Nods. Good one.

:)

From the sublime to the gob-smackingly ridiculous in well under ten years.

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Date: 14/10/2026 13:44:56
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2438815
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

>>Guilfoyle is a former Fox News Channel host and California prosecutor who was once married to California’s Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom and was engaged to Trump’s son Donald Jr.

The Greek Ambassador who has now resigned has quite a pedigree..

Well connected

Sails under whatever flag is most convenient.

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Date: 14/10/2026 14:10:48
From: Michael V
ID: 2438817
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Back in the distant past when the US president had a wee bit more dignity and professionalism.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iinIaai6Hno

Nods. Good one.

:)

From the sublime to the gob-smackingly ridiculous in well under ten years.

I’ll say.

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Date: 14/10/2026 14:30:41
From: dv
ID: 2438827
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Great summary

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Date: 14/10/2026 16:25:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2438878
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

Great summary

how good is equality based meritocracy

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Date: 14/10/2026 17:43:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 2438909
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

An inaugural, albeit short, White House press briefing offered a glimpse into how Trump’s latest press secretary, Katie Zacharia, will approach the notoriously difficult role.

The 41-year-old spent much of the 14-minute appearance reading from prepared remarks before taking just three questions, all from conservative-leaning outlets.

Zacharia’s debut comes after the departure of Karoline Leavitt, who became known for her combative and high-profile briefing style.

Talks up Trump agenda

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Date: 14/10/2026 18:26:05
From: dv
ID: 2438940
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 14/10/2026 18:31:11
From: Michael V
ID: 2438941
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Ouch!

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Date: 15/10/2026 10:19:07
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2439081
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

UK independent Article

Naked statue of Trump named ‘Orange Plague’ unveiled at European Parliament

The creator of the sculpture said it was a ‘satirical outcry’ against Trump’s volatile climate and foreign policies

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Date: 15/10/2026 10:33:46
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2439084
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


UK independent Article

Naked statue of Trump named ‘Orange Plague’ unveiled at European Parliament

The creator of the sculpture said it was a ‘satirical outcry’ against Trump’s volatile climate and foreign policies


The Emperor has no clothes.

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Date: 15/10/2026 10:43:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2439087
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

UK independent Article

Naked statue of Trump named ‘Orange Plague’ unveiled at European Parliament

The creator of the sculpture said it was a ‘satirical outcry’ against Trump’s volatile climate and foreign policies


The Emperor has no clothes.

More hate to be Trump-poured on Europe, I suppose.

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Date: 15/10/2026 11:41:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 2439103
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

UK independent Article

Naked statue of Trump named ‘Orange Plague’ unveiled at European Parliament

The creator of the sculpture said it was a ‘satirical outcry’ against Trump’s volatile climate and foreign policies


The Emperor has no clothes.

More hate to be Trump-poured on Europe, I suppose.

It is all publicity as far as Trump is concerned.

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Date: 15/10/2026 15:47:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439219
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

The Liberal government quietly ordered a pause on a modest, but important purchase of 16 U.S.-made UH-60M Black Hawk helicopters just before trade negotiations began last summer with the Trump administration,

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Date: 15/10/2026 15:52:19
From: Cymek
ID: 2439221
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged

The Liberal government quietly ordered a pause on a modest, but important purchase of 16 U.S.-made UH-60M Black Hawk helicopters just before trade negotiations began last summer with the Trump administration,

I wonder how much we buy from the USA in regards to military equipment is a political suck-up and not necessarily the best.
I imagine you could also be locked into buying the missiles and shit from them and with Trump in charge they deny it.

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Date: 15/10/2026 16:00:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439223
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

The Liberal government quietly ordered a pause on a modest, but important purchase of 16 U.S.-made UH-60M Black Hawk helicopters just before trade negotiations began last summer with the Trump administration,

I wonder how much we buy from the USA in regards to military equipment is a political suck-up and not necessarily the best.
I imagine you could also be locked into buying the missiles and shit from them and with Trump in charge they deny it.

close to 88.14% of it

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Date: 15/10/2026 16:20:32
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2439230
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Oct 14 (Reuters) – Anthropic said on Wednesday it would add official ​US voting information from nonprofit Democracy Works ‌and election results to its Claude AI chatbot later this month, ahead of the November midterms.
The AI company ​said its goal was to position Claude ​as a useful tool for political conversations, ⁠while preventing election-related abuse.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/anthropic-add-us-voting-information-claude-before-midterms-2026-10-14/

I suppose it’s better than asking Grok who to vote for.

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Date: 15/10/2026 16:27:08
From: buffy
ID: 2439232
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged

The Liberal government quietly ordered a pause on a modest, but important purchase of 16 U.S.-made UH-60M Black Hawk helicopters just before trade negotiations began last summer with the Trump administration,

When was this? last summer? Liberal government?

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Date: 15/10/2026 16:30:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439234
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

The Liberal government quietly ordered a pause on a modest, but important purchase of 16 U.S.-made UH-60M Black Hawk helicopters just before trade negotiations began last summer with the Trump administration,

When was this? last summer? Liberal government?

oh

, CBC News and Radio-Canada have learned.

it was the other timeline slash a world away

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/black-hawks-us-military-canada-helicopter-deal-9.7378775

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Date: 15/10/2026 17:11:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439239
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

The Liberal government quietly ordered a pause on a modest, but important purchase of 16 U.S.-made UH-60M Black Hawk helicopters just before trade negotiations began last summer with the Trump administration,

I wonder how much we buy from the USA in regards to military equipment is a political suck-up and not necessarily the best.
I imagine you could also be locked into buying the missiles and shit from them and with Trump in charge they deny it.

close to 88.14% of it

There’s no single figure which easily identifies how much of Australia’s defence expenditure goes to America. Australia produces, from its own design and manufacture, 10%-20% of its defence equipment needs.

About 50% of defence expenditure involves Australian firms in some way, but mostly that’s for sustaining and maintaining equipment etc. already in service.

Australia is a very US-dependent defence customer, but, then, so are South Korea, Indonesia, the Philippines, and, especially, Taiwan.

Given the US dominance in the Asia-Pacific defence market, it makes sense that Australia would have a lot of US equipment and systems in its inventory. Commonality with the US forces’ equipment and systems, and with those of other Asia-Pacific neighbours, makes plain good sense from the viewpoints of integration and interoperability.

Even a lot of what’s developed in Australia is done with an eye to that integration. No Australian government in recent times seems to have been keen to fund development of Australian research and development for defence when, provided it does what’s required, an item of equipment or a system can bought ready-to-go from e.g. the US, and it fits in with the commonality ideals.

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Date: 15/10/2026 19:55:14
From: kii
ID: 2439300
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I love this guy…his eye rolls… 😆 🤣 😂 😹
Link

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Date: 15/10/2026 20:08:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439312
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

The Liberal government quietly ordered a pause on a modest, but important purchase of 16 U.S.-made UH-60M Black Hawk helicopters just before trade negotiations began last summer with the Trump administration,

I wonder how much we buy from the USA in regards to military equipment is a political suck-up and not necessarily the best.
I imagine you could also be locked into buying the missiles and shit from them and with Trump in charge they deny it.

close to 88.14% of it

When was this? last summer? Liberal government?

oh

, CBC News and Radio-Canada have learned.

it was the other timeline slash a world away

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/black-hawks-us-military-canada-helicopter-deal-9.7378775

I wonder how much we buy from the USA in regards to military equipment is a political suck-up and not necessarily the best.
I imagine you could also be locked into buying the missiles and shit from them and with Trump in charge they deny it.

close to 88.14% of it

There’s no single figure which easily identifies how much of Australia’s defence expenditure goes to America. Australia produces, from its own design and manufacture, 10%-20% of its defence equipment needs.

About 50% of defence expenditure involves Australian firms in some way, but mostly that’s for sustaining and maintaining equipment etc. already in service.

Australia is a very US-dependent defence customer, but, then, so are South Korea, Indonesia, the Philippines, and, especially, Taiwan.

Given the US dominance in the Asia-Pacific defence market, it makes sense that Australia would have a lot of US equipment and systems in its inventory. Commonality with the US forces’ equipment and systems, and with those of other Asia-Pacific neighbours, makes plain good sense from the viewpoints of integration and interoperability.

Even a lot of what’s developed in Australia is done with an eye to that integration. No Australian government in recent times seems to have been keen to fund development of Australian research and development for defence when, provided it does what’s required, an item of equipment or a system can bought ready-to-go from e.g. the US, and it fits in with the commonality ideals.

well we got “news” for yous

European Defence Commissioner Andrius Kubilius acknowledged the continent had grown “quite dependent on American space capabilities”. “The answer to that situation is to develop our own capabilities.”

screw the sunk costs

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-15/zelenskyy-warns-of-starlink-slowdown-in-ukraine/107269352

not just the submarine screws

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Date: 16/10/2026 08:30:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439387
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

oh wow weren’t we all surprised to find that it was just another distraction from the paedo philes

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-16/trump-cancels-livestream-execution-fort-hood/107273194

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Date: 16/10/2026 08:48:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439390
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

close to 88.14% of it

There’s no single figure which easily identifies how much of Australia’s defence expenditure goes to America. Australia produces, from its own design and manufacture, 10%-20% of its defence equipment needs.

About 50% of defence expenditure involves Australian firms in some way, but mostly that’s for sustaining and maintaining equipment etc. already in service.

Australia is a very US-dependent defence customer, but, then, so are South Korea, Indonesia, the Philippines, and, especially, Taiwan.

Given the US dominance in the Asia-Pacific defence market, it makes sense that Australia would have a lot of US equipment and systems in its inventory. Commonality with the US forces’ equipment and systems, and with those of other Asia-Pacific neighbours, makes plain good sense from the viewpoints of integration and interoperability.

Even a lot of what’s developed in Australia is done with an eye to that integration. No Australian government in recent times seems to have been keen to fund development of Australian research and development for defence when, provided it does what’s required, an item of equipment or a system can bought ready-to-go from e.g. the US, and it fits in with the commonality ideals.

well we got “news” for yous

European Defence Commissioner Andrius Kubilius acknowledged the continent had grown “quite dependent on American space capabilities”. “The answer to that situation is to develop our own capabilities.”

screw the sunk costs

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-15/zelenskyy-warns-of-starlink-slowdown-in-ukraine/107269352

not just the submarine screws

oh wow weren’t we all surprised

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-16/zelenskyy-done-with-energy-ceasefire/107272922

extremely surprising

Ukrainians worry that the growing rift between itself and the US could have severe consequences on the battlefield, where military still rely on technology provided by Washington.

no way

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Date: 16/10/2026 09:03:43
From: KJW
ID: 2439393
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Ukrainians worry that the growing rift between itself and the US could have severe consequences on the battlefield, where military still rely on technology provided by Washington.

Or Musk. Didn’t Musk just a few days ago threaten the ability to remotely disable Teslas?

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Date: 16/10/2026 09:14:55
From: ms spock
ID: 2439398
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

KJW said:


SCIENCE said:

Ukrainians worry that the growing rift between itself and the US could have severe consequences on the battlefield, where military still rely on technology provided by Washington.

Or Musk. Didn’t Musk just a few days ago threaten the ability to remotely disable Teslas?

He did indeed.

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Date: 16/10/2026 09:26:40
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2439401
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

R Andy Harris making a fool of himself and getting angry at the crowd.

https://youtu.be/37_0pkJZLpQ?si=yhzZlnsNCIqIZag1

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Date: 16/10/2026 09:48:47
From: KJW
ID: 2439411
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


KJW said:

SCIENCE said:

Ukrainians worry that the growing rift between itself and the US could have severe consequences on the battlefield, where military still rely on technology provided by Washington.

Or Musk. Didn’t Musk just a few days ago threaten the ability to remotely disable Teslas?

He did indeed.

Then there’s this Microsoft action:

https://medium.com/the-geopolitical-economist/the-moment-europe-understood-that-microsoft-could-turn-off-its-government-18fd26d9f6d1

(Full access to this story requires an account, although what is available without an account is telling enough.)

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Date: 16/10/2026 09:59:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439414
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

KJW said:

ms spock said:

KJW said:

Or Musk. Didn’t Musk just a few days ago threaten the ability to remotely disable Teslas?

He did indeed.

Then there’s this Microsoft action:

https://medium.com/the-geopolitical-economist/the-moment-europe-understood-that-microsoft-could-turn-off-its-government-18fd26d9f6d1

(Full access to this story requires an account, although what is available without an account is telling enough.)

yeah but who operates offcloud these days c’m‘on

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Date: 16/10/2026 10:01:55
From: KJW
ID: 2439416
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


yeah but who operates offcloud these days c’m‘on

What do you mean?

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Date: 16/10/2026 10:03:30
From: Michael V
ID: 2439417
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

KJW said:


ms spock said:

KJW said:

Or Musk. Didn’t Musk just a few days ago threaten the ability to remotely disable Teslas?

He did indeed.

Then there’s this Microsoft action:

https://medium.com/the-geopolitical-economist/the-moment-europe-understood-that-microsoft-could-turn-off-its-government-18fd26d9f6d1

(Full access to this story requires an account, although what is available without an account is telling enough.)

!!!

And Musk slowed Starlink response and limited Ukraine’s drone speeds during one of Putin’s biggest barrages of Ukraine recently. That just happened to coincide with US military’s slowing of information exchange. Just after Trump told Mr Z that he wasn’t to attack Putin’s oil infrastructure. (But it seems no such ultimatum to Putin.)

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Date: 16/10/2026 10:07:55
From: KJW
ID: 2439420
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

KJW said:


SCIENCE said:

yeah but who operates offcloud these days c’m‘on

What do you mean?

The action by Microsoft led to Europe abandoning Microsoft products entirely. I hope they’re happy.

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Date: 16/10/2026 10:19:11
From: ms spock
ID: 2439425
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


KJW said:

ms spock said:

He did indeed.

Then there’s this Microsoft action:

https://medium.com/the-geopolitical-economist/the-moment-europe-understood-that-microsoft-could-turn-off-its-government-18fd26d9f6d1

(Full access to this story requires an account, although what is available without an account is telling enough.)

!!!

And Musk slowed Starlink response and limited Ukraine’s drone speeds during one of Putin’s biggest barrages of Ukraine recently. That just happened to coincide with US military’s slowing of information exchange. Just after Trump told Mr Z that he wasn’t to attack Putin’s oil infrastructure. (But it seems no such ultimatum to Putin.)

Musk also slowed down Star Link during the initial attack from Russia if what I have read is true.

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Date: 16/10/2026 10:25:19
From: party_pants
ID: 2439427
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

KJW said:


KJW said:

SCIENCE said:

yeah but who operates offcloud these days c’m‘on

What do you mean?

The action by Microsoft led to Europe abandoning Microsoft products entirely. I hope they’re happy.

I’ve heard they are developing open source software to replace MS Office products. I don’t know if it is fully rolled out yet.

There is also a move to come up with a new payments system that is independent of Visa and Mastercard.

These are in response to the US administration forcing these companies to sanction the ICC and its judges. This has prevented them accessing emails and many common software applications, and certain senior judges can’t use credit cards.

Once these get going expect them to be rolled out across Europe.

Sanctions only work until people develop a workaround.

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Date: 16/10/2026 10:30:50
From: ms spock
ID: 2439430
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


KJW said:

KJW said:

What do you mean?

The action by Microsoft led to Europe abandoning Microsoft products entirely. I hope they’re happy.

I’ve heard they are developing open source software to replace MS Office products. I don’t know if it is fully rolled out yet.

There is also a move to come up with a new payments system that is independent of Visa and Mastercard.

These are in response to the US administration forcing these companies to sanction the ICC and its judges. This has prevented them accessing emails and many common software applications, and certain senior judges can’t use credit cards.

Once these get going expect them to be rolled out across Europe.

Sanctions only work until people develop a workaround.

And everyone has had a gutful.

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Date: 16/10/2026 10:42:15
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2439431
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


party_pants said:

KJW said:

The action by Microsoft led to Europe abandoning Microsoft products entirely. I hope they’re happy.

I’ve heard they are developing open source software to replace MS Office products. I don’t know if it is fully rolled out yet.

There is also a move to come up with a new payments system that is independent of Visa and Mastercard.

These are in response to the US administration forcing these companies to sanction the ICC and its judges. This has prevented them accessing emails and many common software applications, and certain senior judges can’t use credit cards.

Once these get going expect them to be rolled out across Europe.

Sanctions only work until people develop a workaround.

And everyone has had a gutful.

Linux FTW.

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Date: 16/10/2026 10:44:49
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2439433
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I’d be OK with a viable Microsoft alternative. I hate it.

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Date: 16/10/2026 10:48:25
From: KJW
ID: 2439435
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


I’ve heard they are developing open source software to replace MS Office products. I don’t know if it is fully rolled out yet.

I think they are going over to Linux as well

party_pants said:


There is also a move to come up with a new payments system that is independent of Visa and Mastercard.

These are in response to the US administration forcing these companies to sanction the ICC and its judges. This has prevented them accessing emails and many common software applications, and certain senior judges can’t use credit cards.

Once these get going expect them to be rolled out across Europe.

Sanctions only work until people develop a workaround.

And the thing about such workarounds is that they are permanent.

It’s not just the Trump administration, but the technology companies themselves have showed their hands.

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Date: 16/10/2026 10:57:37
From: party_pants
ID: 2439438
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

KJW said:


party_pants said:

I’ve heard they are developing open source software to replace MS Office products. I don’t know if it is fully rolled out yet.

I think they are going over to Linux as well

party_pants said:


There is also a move to come up with a new payments system that is independent of Visa and Mastercard.

These are in response to the US administration forcing these companies to sanction the ICC and its judges. This has prevented them accessing emails and many common software applications, and certain senior judges can’t use credit cards.

Once these get going expect them to be rolled out across Europe.

Sanctions only work until people develop a workaround.

And the thing about such workarounds is that they are permanent.

It’s not just the Trump administration, but the technology companies themselves have showed their hands.

There’s a similar move going on in heavy machinery like farming and mining equipment.. They are getting too smart now, and users are being locked into subscription fees for software support and so on, and also being locked into dealer only servicing and repairs. People are not happy about this, particularly US farmers, and they are trying to fight it. It’s called the Right to Repair movement. The biggest culprits in this scam are the US giants John Deere and CAT. Operators are starting to look for pre-smart tech replacements, minor low-tech brands are getting new customers.

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Date: 16/10/2026 11:04:02
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2439439
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Words fail me as to just how cringeworthy, delusional, false, idiotic and many other descriptions this is.

https://bsky.app/profile/seedanesti.bsky.social/post/3mxwgurmh4s2h

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Date: 16/10/2026 11:50:03
From: Michael V
ID: 2439455
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


KJW said:

party_pants said:

I’ve heard they are developing open source software to replace MS Office products. I don’t know if it is fully rolled out yet.

I think they are going over to Linux as well

party_pants said:


There is also a move to come up with a new payments system that is independent of Visa and Mastercard.

These are in response to the US administration forcing these companies to sanction the ICC and its judges. This has prevented them accessing emails and many common software applications, and certain senior judges can’t use credit cards.

Once these get going expect them to be rolled out across Europe.

Sanctions only work until people develop a workaround.

And the thing about such workarounds is that they are permanent.

It’s not just the Trump administration, but the technology companies themselves have showed their hands.

There’s a similar move going on in heavy machinery like farming and mining equipment.. They are getting too smart now, and users are being locked into subscription fees for software support and so on, and also being locked into dealer only servicing and repairs. People are not happy about this, particularly US farmers, and they are trying to fight it. It’s called the Right to Repair movement. The biggest culprits in this scam are the US giants John Deere and CAT. Operators are starting to look for pre-smart tech replacements, minor low-tech brands are getting new customers.

Good.

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Date: 16/10/2026 11:50:38
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2439456
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


KJW said:

KJW said:

What do you mean?

The action by Microsoft led to Europe abandoning Microsoft products entirely. I hope they’re happy.

I’ve heard they are developing open source software to replace MS Office products. I don’t know if it is fully rolled out yet.

There is also a move to come up with a new payments system that is independent of Visa and Mastercard.

These are in response to the US administration forcing these companies to sanction the ICC and its judges. This has prevented them accessing emails and many common software applications, and certain senior judges can’t use credit cards.

Once these get going expect them to be rolled out across Europe.

Sanctions only work until people develop a workaround.

Why don’t they just promote the use of the existing open source alternatives to MS Office?

Alternatives to Visa and Mastercard (and Amex) would be a good idea.

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Date: 16/10/2026 11:51:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439457
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


ms spock said:

party_pants said:

I’ve heard they are developing open source software to replace MS Office products. I don’t know if it is fully rolled out yet.

There is also a move to come up with a new payments system that is independent of Visa and Mastercard.

These are in response to the US administration forcing these companies to sanction the ICC and its judges. This has prevented them accessing emails and many common software applications, and certain senior judges can’t use credit cards.

Once these get going expect them to be rolled out across Europe.

Sanctions only work until people develop a workaround.

And everyone has had a gutful.

Linux FTW.

I went back to Windows from Linux.

Linux is nice, except…

…watch out for ‘config fatigue’.

There will come a time when you want to do something on your Linux PC which you know could easily be done under Windows. So, you go looking for a Linux equivalent.

And you find one. Says on the tin, install this and you’ll be able to do this on Linux, in much the same way as Windows. Whacko. You install it, and it doesn’t work.

So, you make enquiries in Linux forums and AIs. Turns out that that Linux app was written for a version of Linux that’s slightly different than the one you’ve installed. You’ll have to copy these files and insert them here in the app, and you should be right.

But, it still doesn’t work.

Oh, didn’t we tell you? You’ll need to get these data libraries, and install them here. The other version of Linux already knows where to find them, but yours
doesn’t.

OK, done. Doesn’t work.

Well, that’s because you need to put these screen size parameters in so that your Linux can adjust the display size to something where the frame rate will be ok.

This kind of thing can go on all day long. Every time, you think, it’ll run this time, but it never does. There’s always one thing more to fix. At the end of the day, you’ve got nowhere, you’re fed up with it, tired, and cranky.

Several repeated instances of this, and you’ve got ‘config fatigue’. You can’t stand it any more.

Linux is an operating system, but it’s an operating system for old guys with beards who wear socks with sandals, and who just love sorting out bugs in it, and fixing and patching things all the live long day.

So, you start to take another look at Windows, with all its faults and foibles…

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Date: 16/10/2026 11:54:48
From: Michael V
ID: 2439460
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Words fail me as to just how cringeworthy, delusional, false, idiotic and many other descriptions this is.

https://bsky.app/profile/seedanesti.bsky.social/post/3mxwgurmh4s2h

LOLz

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Date: 16/10/2026 11:55:12
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2439461
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

ms spock said:

And everyone has had a gutful.

Linux FTW.

I went back to Windows from Linux.

Linux is nice, except…

…watch out for ‘config fatigue’.

There will come a time when you want to do something on your Linux PC which you know could easily be done under Windows. So, you go looking for a Linux equivalent.

And you find one. Says on the tin, install this and you’ll be able to do this on Linux, in much the same way as Windows. Whacko. You install it, and it doesn’t work.

So, you make enquiries in Linux forums and AIs. Turns out that that Linux app was written for a version of Linux that’s slightly different than the one you’ve installed. You’ll have to copy these files and insert them here in the app, and you should be right.

But, it still doesn’t work.

Oh, didn’t we tell you? You’ll need to get these data libraries, and install them here. The other version of Linux already knows where to find them, but yours
doesn’t.

OK, done. Doesn’t work.

Well, that’s because you need to put these screen size parameters in so that your Linux can adjust the display size to something where the frame rate will be ok.

This kind of thing can go on all day long. Every time, you think, it’ll run this time, but it never does. There’s always one thing more to fix. At the end of the day, you’ve got nowhere, you’re fed up with it, tired, and cranky.

Several repeated instances of this, and you’ve got ‘config fatigue’. You can’t stand it any more.

Linux is an operating system, but it’s an operating system for old guys with beards who wear socks with sandals, and who just love sorting out bugs in it, and fixing and patching things all the live long day.

So, you start to take another look at Windows, with all its faults and foibles…

How long ago was that?
The later versions are pretty robust.

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Date: 16/10/2026 11:58:47
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439463
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Linux FTW.

I went back to Windows from Linux.

Linux is nice, except…

…watch out for ‘config fatigue’.

There will come a time when you want to do something on your Linux PC which you know could easily be done under Windows. So, you go looking for a Linux equivalent.

And you find one. Says on the tin, install this and you’ll be able to do this on Linux, in much the same way as Windows. Whacko. You install it, and it doesn’t work.

So, you make enquiries in Linux forums and AIs. Turns out that that Linux app was written for a version of Linux that’s slightly different than the one you’ve installed. You’ll have to copy these files and insert them here in the app, and you should be right.

But, it still doesn’t work.

Oh, didn’t we tell you? You’ll need to get these data libraries, and install them here. The other version of Linux already knows where to find them, but yours
doesn’t.

OK, done. Doesn’t work.

Well, that’s because you need to put these screen size parameters in so that your Linux can adjust the display size to something where the frame rate will be ok.

This kind of thing can go on all day long. Every time, you think, it’ll run this time, but it never does. There’s always one thing more to fix. At the end of the day, you’ve got nowhere, you’re fed up with it, tired, and cranky.

Several repeated instances of this, and you’ve got ‘config fatigue’. You can’t stand it any more.

Linux is an operating system, but it’s an operating system for old guys with beards who wear socks with sandals, and who just love sorting out bugs in it, and fixing and patching things all the live long day.

So, you start to take another look at Windows, with all its faults and foibles…

How long ago was that?
The later versions are pretty robust.

I was using Linux Mint 22.2

It was pretty good, if all i wanted to do was browse the internet.

Anything else was likely to be a battle of epic proportions.

I was caught up in one flurry of configs, suing advice from Reddit and similar, and from AIs.

I asked one AI, ‘do you think that we’ll get this thing working, eventually?’, and it answered, ‘to be perfectly honest, no. There seems to be no end to this, and i can’t see many examples of success with it.’

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:03:36
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2439465
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

I went back to Windows from Linux.

Linux is nice, except…

…watch out for ‘config fatigue’.

There will come a time when you want to do something on your Linux PC which you know could easily be done under Windows. So, you go looking for a Linux equivalent.

And you find one. Says on the tin, install this and you’ll be able to do this on Linux, in much the same way as Windows. Whacko. You install it, and it doesn’t work.

So, you make enquiries in Linux forums and AIs. Turns out that that Linux app was written for a version of Linux that’s slightly different than the one you’ve installed. You’ll have to copy these files and insert them here in the app, and you should be right.

But, it still doesn’t work.

Oh, didn’t we tell you? You’ll need to get these data libraries, and install them here. The other version of Linux already knows where to find them, but yours
doesn’t.

OK, done. Doesn’t work.

Well, that’s because you need to put these screen size parameters in so that your Linux can adjust the display size to something where the frame rate will be ok.

This kind of thing can go on all day long. Every time, you think, it’ll run this time, but it never does. There’s always one thing more to fix. At the end of the day, you’ve got nowhere, you’re fed up with it, tired, and cranky.

Several repeated instances of this, and you’ve got ‘config fatigue’. You can’t stand it any more.

Linux is an operating system, but it’s an operating system for old guys with beards who wear socks with sandals, and who just love sorting out bugs in it, and fixing and patching things all the live long day.

So, you start to take another look at Windows, with all its faults and foibles…

How long ago was that?
The later versions are pretty robust.

I was using Linux Mint 22.2

It was pretty good, if all i wanted to do was browse the internet.

Anything else was likely to be a battle of epic proportions.

I was caught up in one flurry of configs, suing advice from Reddit and similar, and from AIs.

I asked one AI, ‘do you think that we’ll get this thing working, eventually?’, and it answered, ‘to be perfectly honest, no. There seems to be no end to this, and i can’t see many examples of success with it.’

Weird. Last time I used it much was 2008 and it seemed okay.
When MS finally pulls all support for Windows 10 I’ll be swapping to Linux and using Winboat to run anything that requires Windows. So that’ll be Solidworks and maybe a small number of other apps that don’t have a Linux equivalent.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:06:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439466
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

How long ago was that?
The later versions are pretty robust.

I was using Linux Mint 22.2

It was pretty good, if all i wanted to do was browse the internet.

Anything else was likely to be a battle of epic proportions.

I was caught up in one flurry of configs, suing advice from Reddit and similar, and from AIs.

I asked one AI, ‘do you think that we’ll get this thing working, eventually?’, and it answered, ‘to be perfectly honest, no. There seems to be no end to this, and i can’t see many examples of success with it.’

Weird. Last time I used it much was 2008 and it seemed okay.
When MS finally pulls all support for Windows 10 I’ll be swapping to Linux and using Winboat to run anything that requires Windows. So that’ll be Solidworks and maybe a small number of other apps that don’t have a Linux equivalent.

I tried Winboat as an alternative to using Linux substitutes; just use the Windows stuff under Linux.

As i recall, even Winboat fought every inch of the way, and it ultimately exhausted me.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:09:38
From: party_pants
ID: 2439467
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

KJW said:

The action by Microsoft led to Europe abandoning Microsoft products entirely. I hope they’re happy.

I’ve heard they are developing open source software to replace MS Office products. I don’t know if it is fully rolled out yet.

There is also a move to come up with a new payments system that is independent of Visa and Mastercard.

These are in response to the US administration forcing these companies to sanction the ICC and its judges. This has prevented them accessing emails and many common software applications, and certain senior judges can’t use credit cards.

Once these get going expect them to be rolled out across Europe.

Sanctions only work until people develop a workaround.

Why don’t they just promote the use of the existing open source alternatives to MS Office?

Alternatives to Visa and Mastercard (and Amex) would be a good idea.

Not sure if it is mature enough yet, or has the level of tech support to run major institutions without using any MS products.

The Netherlands government is wanting to move their entire civil service onto a new platform. They are specifically looking at all the software apps to be developed and supported within their own country. So even if decent alternatives are already out there, they might end up reinventing the wheel a bit to keep it all within their own country.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:11:57
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2439468
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

I was using Linux Mint 22.2

It was pretty good, if all i wanted to do was browse the internet.

Anything else was likely to be a battle of epic proportions.

I was caught up in one flurry of configs, suing advice from Reddit and similar, and from AIs.

I asked one AI, ‘do you think that we’ll get this thing working, eventually?’, and it answered, ‘to be perfectly honest, no. There seems to be no end to this, and i can’t see many examples of success with it.’

Weird. Last time I used it much was 2008 and it seemed okay.
When MS finally pulls all support for Windows 10 I’ll be swapping to Linux and using Winboat to run anything that requires Windows. So that’ll be Solidworks and maybe a small number of other apps that don’t have a Linux equivalent.

I tried Winboat as an alternative to using Linux substitutes; just use the Windows stuff under Linux.

As i recall, even Winboat fought every inch of the way, and it ultimately exhausted me.

Ah righto then. I’ve got access to a tech nerd club here that are very good at such things fortunately.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:16:06
From: Michael V
ID: 2439469
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

ms spock said:

And everyone has had a gutful.

Linux FTW.

I went back to Windows from Linux.

Linux is nice, except…

…watch out for ‘config fatigue’.

There will come a time when you want to do something on your Linux PC which you know could easily be done under Windows. So, you go looking for a Linux equivalent.

And you find one. Says on the tin, install this and you’ll be able to do this on Linux, in much the same way as Windows. Whacko. You install it, and it doesn’t work.

So, you make enquiries in Linux forums and AIs. Turns out that that Linux app was written for a version of Linux that’s slightly different than the one you’ve installed. You’ll have to copy these files and insert them here in the app, and you should be right.

But, it still doesn’t work.

Oh, didn’t we tell you? You’ll need to get these data libraries, and install them here. The other version of Linux already knows where to find them, but yours
doesn’t.

OK, done. Doesn’t work.

Well, that’s because you need to put these screen size parameters in so that your Linux can adjust the display size to something where the frame rate will be ok.

This kind of thing can go on all day long. Every time, you think, it’ll run this time, but it never does. There’s always one thing more to fix. At the end of the day, you’ve got nowhere, you’re fed up with it, tired, and cranky.

Several repeated instances of this, and you’ve got ‘config fatigue’. You can’t stand it any more.

Linux is an operating system, but it’s an operating system for old guys with beards who wear socks with sandals, and who just love sorting out bugs in it, and fixing and patching things all the live long day.

So, you start to take another look at Windows, with all its faults and foibles…

Bloody.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:18:18
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439471
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Weird. Last time I used it much was 2008 and it seemed okay.
When MS finally pulls all support for Windows 10 I’ll be swapping to Linux and using Winboat to run anything that requires Windows. So that’ll be Solidworks and maybe a small number of other apps that don’t have a Linux equivalent.

I tried Winboat as an alternative to using Linux substitutes; just use the Windows stuff under Linux.

As i recall, even Winboat fought every inch of the way, and it ultimately exhausted me.

Ah righto then. I’ve got access to a tech nerd club here that are very good at such things fortunately.

I’d like to use Linux, and i think that Linux could be a much more popular OS than it is.

But, it is in the hands of the nerds, and you need a club like that to help you with it.

I suspect that what happens is that when someone with a sufficiently high degree of nerdiness finds that a version of Linux fails them in some way or another, then rather than look at fixing that deficiency in that version, they go away and write a whole new version which emphasises the things they think are important, but leaves out the things they don’t personally value, and the cycle repeats.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:18:48
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2439472
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Order to limit Starshield for Ukraine came from inside White House, sources say

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON, Oct 15 (Reuters) – The order to limit a satellite system used by Ukraine ​for battlefield communications and drone operations came from inside the White House, according to two US officials and a Western official briefed on the matter.

The officials said ‌leaders at the Defense Department received a message that the SpaceX Starshield service for the Ukrainian military needed to be slowed.

The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, did not specify who in the White House made the decision or who was responsible for implementing the order. The Pentagon is the biggest customer of Starshield, which is the military-grade version of the Starlink service.
Ukrainian officials said this week that military-grade Starlink receptors stopped working in Ukraine ​when mounted on fast-moving objects, interfering with the performance of Ukrainian drones that rely on them for onboard guidance systems over Ukrainian territory.

A person in Ukraine’s Defence Ministry said on ​Thursday that the receptors were now working when in motion, but only at speeds of up to 100 miles per hour (160 kph).

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/order-limit-starshield-ukraine-came-inside-white-house-sources-say-2026-10-15/

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:24:16
From: Michael V
ID: 2439473
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

I tried Winboat as an alternative to using Linux substitutes; just use the Windows stuff under Linux.

As i recall, even Winboat fought every inch of the way, and it ultimately exhausted me.

Ah righto then. I’ve got access to a tech nerd club here that are very good at such things fortunately.

I’d like to use Linux, and i think that Linux could be a much more popular OS than it is.

But, it is in the hands of the nerds, and you need a club like that to help you with it.

I suspect that what happens is that when someone with a sufficiently high degree of nerdiness finds that a version of Linux fails them in some way or another, then rather than look at fixing that deficiency in that version, they go away and write a whole new version which emphasises the things they think are important, but leaves out the things they don’t personally value, and the cycle repeats.

I guess the thing about Windows and other Microsoft products is that they try to be all things to all people all the time. It’d be really nice if it were possible to remove the bits that one doesn’t want. But that might require the same skills that building Linux requires.

If Matthew V hadn’t gone and died on me, I probably would have gone to Linux instead of Win 11. He was a big Linux user, and understood it well.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:25:28
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2439474
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Ah righto then. I’ve got access to a tech nerd club here that are very good at such things fortunately.

I’d like to use Linux, and i think that Linux could be a much more popular OS than it is.

But, it is in the hands of the nerds, and you need a club like that to help you with it.

I suspect that what happens is that when someone with a sufficiently high degree of nerdiness finds that a version of Linux fails them in some way or another, then rather than look at fixing that deficiency in that version, they go away and write a whole new version which emphasises the things they think are important, but leaves out the things they don’t personally value, and the cycle repeats.

I guess the thing about Windows and other Microsoft products is that they try to be all things to all people all the time. It’d be really nice if it were possible to remove the bits that one doesn’t want. But that might require the same skills that building Linux requires.

If Matthew V hadn’t gone and died on me, I probably would have gone to Linux instead of Win 11. He was a big Linux user, and understood it well.

Here ya go, remove everything you don’t like.
https://christitus.com/windows-tool/

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:25:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439475
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Order to limit Starshield for Ukraine came from inside White House, sources say

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON, Oct 15 (Reuters) – The order to limit a satellite system used by Ukraine ​for battlefield communications and drone operations came from inside the White House, according to two US officials and a Western official briefed on the matter.

The officials said ‌leaders at the Defense Department received a message that the SpaceX Starshield service for the Ukrainian military needed to be slowed.

The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, did not specify who in the White House made the decision or who was responsible for implementing the order. The Pentagon is the biggest customer of Starshield, which is the military-grade version of the Starlink service.
Ukrainian officials said this week that military-grade Starlink receptors stopped working in Ukraine ​when mounted on fast-moving objects, interfering with the performance of Ukrainian drones that rely on them for onboard guidance systems over Ukrainian territory.

A person in Ukraine’s Defence Ministry said on ​Thursday that the receptors were now working when in motion, but only at speeds of up to 100 miles per hour (160 kph).

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/order-limit-starshield-ukraine-came-inside-white-house-sources-say-2026-10-15/

The beatings will continue until attacks on Russian oil infrastructure cease.

Donny Shitpants has just made ‘a deal’ with Putin, V. for 300,000 tonnes of diesel.

Donny doesn’t do anything unless there’s big a drink in it for him, so we can assume that the grift is locked in, and that he’s going to pick up a few quid here.

But, attacking Russian oil facilities isn’t going to help that little caper one tiny bit.

So, make a call to Elon, get him to make life a bit more difficult for the Ukrainian forces, and let it be known that normal service will be resumed when oil installations are taken off the hit list.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:26:34
From: Michael V
ID: 2439476
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Order to limit Starshield for Ukraine came from inside White House, sources say

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON, Oct 15 (Reuters) – The order to limit a satellite system used by Ukraine ​for battlefield communications and drone operations came from inside the White House, according to two US officials and a Western official briefed on the matter.

The officials said ‌leaders at the Defense Department received a message that the SpaceX Starshield service for the Ukrainian military needed to be slowed.

The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, did not specify who in the White House made the decision or who was responsible for implementing the order. The Pentagon is the biggest customer of Starshield, which is the military-grade version of the Starlink service.
Ukrainian officials said this week that military-grade Starlink receptors stopped working in Ukraine ​when mounted on fast-moving objects, interfering with the performance of Ukrainian drones that rely on them for onboard guidance systems over Ukrainian territory.

A person in Ukraine’s Defence Ministry said on ​Thursday that the receptors were now working when in motion, but only at speeds of up to 100 miles per hour (160 kph).

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/order-limit-starshield-ukraine-came-inside-white-house-sources-say-2026-10-15/

Effectively giving Putin the upper hand in the war.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:36:18
From: Michael V
ID: 2439480
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

I’d like to use Linux, and i think that Linux could be a much more popular OS than it is.

But, it is in the hands of the nerds, and you need a club like that to help you with it.

I suspect that what happens is that when someone with a sufficiently high degree of nerdiness finds that a version of Linux fails them in some way or another, then rather than look at fixing that deficiency in that version, they go away and write a whole new version which emphasises the things they think are important, but leaves out the things they don’t personally value, and the cycle repeats.

I guess the thing about Windows and other Microsoft products is that they try to be all things to all people all the time. It’d be really nice if it were possible to remove the bits that one doesn’t want. But that might require the same skills that building Linux requires.

If Matthew V hadn’t gone and died on me, I probably would have gone to Linux instead of Win 11. He was a big Linux user, and understood it well.

Here ya go, remove everything you don’t like.
https://christitus.com/windows-tool/

Thanks. I read the first page. It may still be a bit beyond my (lack of) computer skills. I’ll read around it some more.

Thanks again.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:36:33
From: party_pants
ID: 2439481
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

Order to limit Starshield for Ukraine came from inside White House, sources say

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON, Oct 15 (Reuters) – The order to limit a satellite system used by Ukraine ​for battlefield communications and drone operations came from inside the White House, according to two US officials and a Western official briefed on the matter.

The officials said ‌leaders at the Defense Department received a message that the SpaceX Starshield service for the Ukrainian military needed to be slowed.

The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, did not specify who in the White House made the decision or who was responsible for implementing the order. The Pentagon is the biggest customer of Starshield, which is the military-grade version of the Starlink service.
Ukrainian officials said this week that military-grade Starlink receptors stopped working in Ukraine ​when mounted on fast-moving objects, interfering with the performance of Ukrainian drones that rely on them for onboard guidance systems over Ukrainian territory.

A person in Ukraine’s Defence Ministry said on ​Thursday that the receptors were now working when in motion, but only at speeds of up to 100 miles per hour (160 kph).

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/order-limit-starshield-ukraine-came-inside-white-house-sources-say-2026-10-15/

The beatings will continue until attacks on Russian oil infrastructure cease.

Donny Shitpants has just made ‘a deal’ with Putin, V. for 300,000 tonnes of diesel.

Donny doesn’t do anything unless there’s big a drink in it for him, so we can assume that the grift is locked in, and that he’s going to pick up a few quid here.

But, attacking Russian oil facilities isn’t going to help that little caper one tiny bit.

So, make a call to Elon, get him to make life a bit more difficult for the Ukrainian forces, and let it be known that normal service will be resumed when oil installations are taken off the hit list.

It’s about all Ukraine can do to stop Russia. The war has gotten to stage where Ukraine cannot win.

Ukraine has no air defences against Russian ballistic and cruise missile attacks on their major cities and infrastructure. They have used up all of their Patriot missiles and can’t get any more because the US is running very low on them. The war in the Gulf and the protection of Israel against missile attack from Iran/Yemen is taking a higher priority and very few to none are being supplied to Ukraine. So Russia has the advantage there. The only strategy for Ukraine is to go after the logistical train needed to sustain the Russian forces at the front. This includes going after their oil and fuel supplies. Without that Ukraine are in danger of losing ground to Russia. Letting up on attacking Russian oil refineries is going to lose Ukraine the war.

I am sure the White House knows this. They have effectively switched sides.

Don’t buy anything that says Ukraine are turning the tide and on the verge of driving the Russians out. They are in a desperate situation and trying to slow down the Russians enough to hold the line.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:44:09
From: Michael V
ID: 2439483
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

Order to limit Starshield for Ukraine came from inside White House, sources say

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON, Oct 15 (Reuters) – The order to limit a satellite system used by Ukraine ​for battlefield communications and drone operations came from inside the White House, according to two US officials and a Western official briefed on the matter.

The officials said ‌leaders at the Defense Department received a message that the SpaceX Starshield service for the Ukrainian military needed to be slowed.

The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, did not specify who in the White House made the decision or who was responsible for implementing the order. The Pentagon is the biggest customer of Starshield, which is the military-grade version of the Starlink service.
Ukrainian officials said this week that military-grade Starlink receptors stopped working in Ukraine ​when mounted on fast-moving objects, interfering with the performance of Ukrainian drones that rely on them for onboard guidance systems over Ukrainian territory.

A person in Ukraine’s Defence Ministry said on ​Thursday that the receptors were now working when in motion, but only at speeds of up to 100 miles per hour (160 kph).

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/order-limit-starshield-ukraine-came-inside-white-house-sources-say-2026-10-15/

The beatings will continue until attacks on Russian oil infrastructure cease.

Donny Shitpants has just made ‘a deal’ with Putin, V. for 300,000 tonnes of diesel.

Donny doesn’t do anything unless there’s big a drink in it for him, so we can assume that the grift is locked in, and that he’s going to pick up a few quid here.

But, attacking Russian oil facilities isn’t going to help that little caper one tiny bit.

So, make a call to Elon, get him to make life a bit more difficult for the Ukrainian forces, and let it be known that normal service will be resumed when oil installations are taken off the hit list.

And 300,000 tonnes of diesel is not much at all. A bit over 300,000 cubic metres, which in turn is a bit over 300 million litres. A day or three for running Australia.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:47:37
From: Michael V
ID: 2439486
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Order to limit Starshield for Ukraine came from inside White House, sources say

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON, Oct 15 (Reuters) – The order to limit a satellite system used by Ukraine ​for battlefield communications and drone operations came from inside the White House, according to two US officials and a Western official briefed on the matter.

The officials said ‌leaders at the Defense Department received a message that the SpaceX Starshield service for the Ukrainian military needed to be slowed.

The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, did not specify who in the White House made the decision or who was responsible for implementing the order. The Pentagon is the biggest customer of Starshield, which is the military-grade version of the Starlink service.
Ukrainian officials said this week that military-grade Starlink receptors stopped working in Ukraine ​when mounted on fast-moving objects, interfering with the performance of Ukrainian drones that rely on them for onboard guidance systems over Ukrainian territory.

A person in Ukraine’s Defence Ministry said on ​Thursday that the receptors were now working when in motion, but only at speeds of up to 100 miles per hour (160 kph).

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/order-limit-starshield-ukraine-came-inside-white-house-sources-say-2026-10-15/

The beatings will continue until attacks on Russian oil infrastructure cease.

Donny Shitpants has just made ‘a deal’ with Putin, V. for 300,000 tonnes of diesel.

Donny doesn’t do anything unless there’s big a drink in it for him, so we can assume that the grift is locked in, and that he’s going to pick up a few quid here.

But, attacking Russian oil facilities isn’t going to help that little caper one tiny bit.

So, make a call to Elon, get him to make life a bit more difficult for the Ukrainian forces, and let it be known that normal service will be resumed when oil installations are taken off the hit list.

It’s about all Ukraine can do to stop Russia. The war has gotten to stage where Ukraine cannot win.

Ukraine has no air defences against Russian ballistic and cruise missile attacks on their major cities and infrastructure. They have used up all of their Patriot missiles and can’t get any more because the US is running very low on them. The war in the Gulf and the protection of Israel against missile attack from Iran/Yemen is taking a higher priority and very few to none are being supplied to Ukraine. So Russia has the advantage there. The only strategy for Ukraine is to go after the logistical train needed to sustain the Russian forces at the front. This includes going after their oil and fuel supplies. Without that Ukraine are in danger of losing ground to Russia. Letting up on attacking Russian oil refineries is going to lose Ukraine the war.

I am sure the White House knows this. They have effectively switched sides.

Don’t buy anything that says Ukraine are turning the tide and on the verge of driving the Russians out. They are in a desperate situation and trying to slow down the Russians enough to hold the line.

Grrrrr.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:48:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439487
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Order to limit Starshield for Ukraine came from inside White House, sources say

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON, Oct 15 (Reuters) – The order to limit a satellite system used by Ukraine ​for battlefield communications and drone operations came from inside the White House, according to two US officials and a Western official briefed on the matter.

The officials said ‌leaders at the Defense Department received a message that the SpaceX Starshield service for the Ukrainian military needed to be slowed.

The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, did not specify who in the White House made the decision or who was responsible for implementing the order. The Pentagon is the biggest customer of Starshield, which is the military-grade version of the Starlink service.
Ukrainian officials said this week that military-grade Starlink receptors stopped working in Ukraine ​when mounted on fast-moving objects, interfering with the performance of Ukrainian drones that rely on them for onboard guidance systems over Ukrainian territory.

A person in Ukraine’s Defence Ministry said on ​Thursday that the receptors were now working when in motion, but only at speeds of up to 100 miles per hour (160 kph).

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/order-limit-starshield-ukraine-came-inside-white-house-sources-say-2026-10-15/

The beatings will continue until attacks on Russian oil infrastructure cease.

Donny Shitpants has just made ‘a deal’ with Putin, V. for 300,000 tonnes of diesel.

Donny doesn’t do anything unless there’s big a drink in it for him, so we can assume that the grift is locked in, and that he’s going to pick up a few quid here.

But, attacking Russian oil facilities isn’t going to help that little caper one tiny bit.

So, make a call to Elon, get him to make life a bit more difficult for the Ukrainian forces, and let it be known that normal service will be resumed when oil installations are taken off the hit list.

And 300,000 tonnes of diesel is not much at all. A bit over 300,000 cubic metres, which in turn is a bit over 300 million litres. A day or three for running Australia.

It’s probably not so much about relieving the fuel shortage as it is about turning a quick dollar for Donny.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:50:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439488
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

KJW said:

SCIENCE said:

yeah but who operates offcloud these days c’m‘on

What do you mean?

sorry we were being sarcastic we meant who stores their emails locally and relies on local archival instead of one drive

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:51:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439489
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

KJW said:

SCIENCE said:

yeah but who operates offcloud these days c’m‘on

What do you mean?

sorry we were being sarcastic we meant who stores their emails locally and relies on local archival instead of one drive

Me.

I have no involvement with One Drive.

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:57:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439495
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

Order to limit Starshield for Ukraine came from inside White House, sources say

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON, Oct 15 (Reuters) – The order to limit a satellite system used by Ukraine ​for battlefield communications and drone operations came from inside the White House, according to two US officials and a Western official briefed on the matter.

The officials said ‌leaders at the Defense Department received a message that the SpaceX Starshield service for the Ukrainian military needed to be slowed.

The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, did not specify who in the White House made the decision or who was responsible for implementing the order. The Pentagon is the biggest customer of Starshield, which is the military-grade version of the Starlink service.
Ukrainian officials said this week that military-grade Starlink receptors stopped working in Ukraine ​when mounted on fast-moving objects, interfering with the performance of Ukrainian drones that rely on them for onboard guidance systems over Ukrainian territory.

A person in Ukraine’s Defence Ministry said on ​Thursday that the receptors were now working when in motion, but only at speeds of up to 100 miles per hour (160 kph).

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/order-limit-starshield-ukraine-came-inside-white-house-sources-say-2026-10-15/

Effectively giving Putin the upper hand in the war.

damn we were jaw dropping surprised here

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Date: 16/10/2026 12:59:37
From: Michael V
ID: 2439497
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

KJW said:

What do you mean?

sorry we were being sarcastic we meant who stores their emails locally and relies on local archival instead of one drive

Me.

I have no involvement with One Drive.

Me neither.

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Date: 16/10/2026 13:02:12
From: party_pants
ID: 2439498
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

The beatings will continue until attacks on Russian oil infrastructure cease.

Donny Shitpants has just made ‘a deal’ with Putin, V. for 300,000 tonnes of diesel.

Donny doesn’t do anything unless there’s big a drink in it for him, so we can assume that the grift is locked in, and that he’s going to pick up a few quid here.

But, attacking Russian oil facilities isn’t going to help that little caper one tiny bit.

So, make a call to Elon, get him to make life a bit more difficult for the Ukrainian forces, and let it be known that normal service will be resumed when oil installations are taken off the hit list.

And 300,000 tonnes of diesel is not much at all. A bit over 300,000 cubic metres, which in turn is a bit over 300 million litres. A day or three for running Australia.

It’s probably not so much about relieving the fuel shortage as it is about turning a quick dollar for Donny.

It is about trying to influence the markets do that the US domestic price of diesel at the pump comes down, right in time for the elections. Lifting the blockade on Iran so they can sell oil to China and east Asia would be way more effective at reducing the cost of fuel. But Israel won’t approve it.

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Date: 16/10/2026 13:05:31
From: KJW
ID: 2439500
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


I went back to Windows from Linux.

Linux is nice, except…

…watch out for ‘config fatigue’.

There will come a time when you want to do something on your Linux PC which you know could easily be done under Windows. So, you go looking for a Linux equivalent.

And you find one. Says on the tin, install this and you’ll be able to do this on Linux, in much the same way as Windows. Whacko. You install it, and it doesn’t work.

So, you make enquiries in Linux forums and AIs. Turns out that that Linux app was written for a version of Linux that’s slightly different than the one you’ve installed. You’ll have to copy these files and insert them here in the app, and you should be right.

But, it still doesn’t work.

Oh, didn’t we tell you? You’ll need to get these data libraries, and install them here. The other version of Linux already knows where to find them, but yours
doesn’t.

OK, done. Doesn’t work.

Well, that’s because you need to put these screen size parameters in so that your Linux can adjust the display size to something where the frame rate will be ok.

This kind of thing can go on all day long. Every time, you think, it’ll run this time, but it never does. There’s always one thing more to fix. At the end of the day, you’ve got nowhere, you’re fed up with it, tired, and cranky.

Several repeated instances of this, and you’ve got ‘config fatigue’. You can’t stand it any more.

Linux is an operating system, but it’s an operating system for old guys with beards who wear socks with sandals, and who just love sorting out bugs in it, and fixing and patching things all the live long day.

So, you start to take another look at Windows, with all its faults and foibles…

This reminds me of why I never got around to low-level programming of the PC. Before the PC, I had a Commodore Amiga 1000, and I would do MC68000 Assembly Language programming on that. The Commodore Amiga 1000 was owned by Commodore, and therefore the assembler/compiler, linker, library files, and programming manuals were all bundled into one easy location (and Motorola had books on the processor itself). But nobody owns the PC. Gathering everything I needed to program the PC was much more difficult because there was no single source for everything. And an Intel 80486 processor running a DOS6.2 / Windows 98 operating system was much more complicated than the Commodore Amiga 1000, so I was never able to consolidate everything into producing an actual exe file running under Windows. And to make matters worse from a programmer standpoint is the periodic upgrading of both processor and operating system to more advanced versions.

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Date: 16/10/2026 13:15:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439508
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

And 300,000 tonnes of diesel is not much at all. A bit over 300,000 cubic metres, which in turn is a bit over 300 million litres. A day or three for running Australia.

It’s probably not so much about relieving the fuel shortage as it is about turning a quick dollar for Donny.

It is about trying to influence the markets do that the US domestic price of diesel at the pump comes down, right in time for the elections. Lifting the blockade on Iran so they can sell oil to China and east Asia would be way more effective at reducing the cost of fuel. But Israel won’t approve it.

so Bennyboyahu don’t want republican fascists to hold the place is that the understanding to be drawn from this

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Date: 16/10/2026 13:24:54
From: KJW
ID: 2439514
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

sorry we were being sarcastic we meant who stores their emails locally and relies on local archival instead of one drive

Me.

I have no involvement with One Drive.

Me neither.

Also me. I used to use One Drive at work, and I hated it (mainly because of a peculiar bug that made it difficult to rename files using Windows Explorer). And besides, Microsoft can block access to One Drive.

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Date: 16/10/2026 13:35:24
From: party_pants
ID: 2439520
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

It’s probably not so much about relieving the fuel shortage as it is about turning a quick dollar for Donny.

It is about trying to influence the markets do that the US domestic price of diesel at the pump comes down, right in time for the elections. Lifting the blockade on Iran so they can sell oil to China and east Asia would be way more effective at reducing the cost of fuel. But Israel won’t approve it.

so Bennyboyahu don’t want republican fascists to hold the place is that the understanding to be drawn from this

Israel want to take over land in Lebanon and Syria, in addition to Gaza. The only countries really trying to do anything to stop them are Iran and Yemen. So they weon’t accept Iran making income from selling oil freely.

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Date: 16/10/2026 15:08:20
From: buffy
ID: 2439529
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

KJW said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Me.

I have no involvement with One Drive.

Me neither.

Also me. I used to use One Drive at work, and I hated it (mainly because of a peculiar bug that made it difficult to rename files using Windows Explorer). And besides, Microsoft can block access to One Drive.

I’ve never seen a need to use it.

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Date: 16/10/2026 16:16:57
From: kii
ID: 2439551
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

A Trump quote without Trump’s voice or face. Trump without Trump. This quote is from his recent rally in Arizona on Oct. 14, 2026. It is unedited and 100% accurate.

‘Five Words’
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Date: 16/10/2026 16:17:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2439552
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


KJW said:

Michael V said:

Me neither.

Also me. I used to use One Drive at work, and I hated it (mainly because of a peculiar bug that made it difficult to rename files using Windows Explorer). And besides, Microsoft can block access to One Drive.

I’ve never seen a need to use it.

It’s a convenient way to share large files.

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Date: 16/10/2026 16:29:13
From: buffy
ID: 2439556
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

KJW said:

Also me. I used to use One Drive at work, and I hated it (mainly because of a peculiar bug that made it difficult to rename files using Windows Explorer). And besides, Microsoft can block access to One Drive.

I’ve never seen a need to use it.

It’s a convenient way to share large files.

I have no need to do that. Which would probably explain my lack of interest.

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Date: 16/10/2026 16:30:26
From: Arts
ID: 2439557
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

KJW said:

Also me. I used to use One Drive at work, and I hated it (mainly because of a peculiar bug that made it difficult to rename files using Windows Explorer). And besides, Microsoft can block access to One Drive.

I’ve never seen a need to use it.

It’s a convenient way to share large files.

we use one drive, I find it ok.. it works for what it is and it’s easy to share files etc..

My workplace places a lot of faith in it as it’s where we are supposed to store our data.. so there must be some legitimacy to it

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Date: 16/10/2026 16:56:03
From: KJW
ID: 2439562
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


KJW said:

Also me. I used to use One Drive at work, and I hated it (mainly because of a peculiar bug that made it difficult to rename files using Windows Explorer). And besides, Microsoft can block access to One Drive.

I’ve never seen a need to use it.

I keep getting notifications in my system tray to set it up. Although I’ve declined so far, I haven’t completely ruled it out in the future.

The organisation where I worked moved from storage on a local server to cloud storage. Before the move, it seemed like the organisation’s IT position was cursed, including one person who died. After the move, the IT position was outsourced to a dedicated IT company.

The bug to which I refer occurs when either a part of the filename is selected for alteration, or the cursor is placed in the filename edit box. Frequently, after a very short time, the entire filename is reselected automatically, interfering with a partial rename. I managed to figure out how to deal with this problem, including using the arrow key to move the cursor before the entire filename reselects. Also, once some editing has occurred, there will no longer be any automatic reselection. Thus, with the entire filename selected, press Ctrl-C Ctrl-V. Then the filename can be edited without worrying about automatic reselection.

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Date: 17/10/2026 08:37:50
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2439666
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

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Date: 17/10/2026 08:41:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439667
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:

I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

ah well thankfully in australia we don’t need to care about that

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-17/katie-zacharia-let-go-white-house/107278730

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Date: 17/10/2026 08:42:53
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439669
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

Send in the next blonde woman.

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Date: 17/10/2026 08:44:45
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2439671
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


JudgeMental said:

I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

Send in the next blonde woman.

Must have extensive plastic surgery.

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Date: 17/10/2026 08:51:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439672
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

Send in the next blonde woman.

Must have extensive plastic surgery.

But, have no claims to be lawyer.

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Date: 17/10/2026 09:15:57
From: Arts
ID: 2439676
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

One day people will look back at this time and say ‘what the fuck were we thinking?’ And then go back to flying their vehicle to their biodome so they can take their helmet off and breathe.

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Date: 17/10/2026 09:16:55
From: Michael V
ID: 2439677
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

That didn’t last long.

On the bright side, she’s now got free time to sit the bar exam.

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Date: 17/10/2026 09:18:05
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2439678
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Arts said:


JudgeMental said:

I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

One day people will look back at this time and say ‘what the fuck were we thinking?’ And then go back to flying their vehicle to their biodome so they can take their helmet off and breathe.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/16/elon-musk-reveals-worlds-first-flying-car-spacex

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Date: 17/10/2026 09:20:32
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439679
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Arts said:

JudgeMental said:

I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

One day people will look back at this time and say ‘what the fuck were we thinking?’ And then go back to flying their vehicle to their biodome so they can take their helmet off and breathe.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/16/elon-musk-reveals-worlds-first-flying-car-spacex

It’s not the flying cars flying that’s a worry.

It’s the flying cars crashing.

Right now, car accidents are mostly confined to roads.

With flying cars; expect a vehicle crash anywhere at all.

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Date: 17/10/2026 09:23:44
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2439682
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

One day people will look back at this time and say ‘what the fuck were we thinking?’ And then go back to flying their vehicle to their biodome so they can take their helmet off and breathe.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/16/elon-musk-reveals-worlds-first-flying-car-spacex

It’s not the flying cars flying that’s a worry.

It’s the flying cars crashing.

Right now, car accidents are mostly confined to roads.

With flying cars; expect a vehicle crash anywhere at all.

Exactly. I’m quite happy for cars to stay on roads. Especially those massive wanker vehicles.

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Date: 17/10/2026 09:39:36
From: Michael V
ID: 2439691
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Arts said:

JudgeMental said:

I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

One day people will look back at this time and say ‘what the fuck were we thinking?’ And then go back to flying their vehicle to their biodome so they can take their helmet off and breathe.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/16/elon-musk-reveals-worlds-first-flying-car-spacex

I saw that on the ABC news last night.

It looks like Musk had a brain fart, then got his AI mate to make a video clip of his brain fart, and asked the AI how long it would take to market it and the AI pulled the 2028 number out of the air.

And it’s not the first flying car.

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Date: 17/10/2026 09:41:05
From: Michael V
ID: 2439693
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

One day people will look back at this time and say ‘what the fuck were we thinking?’ And then go back to flying their vehicle to their biodome so they can take their helmet off and breathe.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/16/elon-musk-reveals-worlds-first-flying-car-spacex

It’s not the flying cars flying that’s a worry.

It’s the flying cars crashing.

Right now, car accidents are mostly confined to roads.

With flying cars; expect a vehicle crash anywhere at all.

Yep.

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Date: 17/10/2026 09:41:14
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2439694
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

JudgeMental said:


I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

The wreckage was spread out like some kind of airplane crash.

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Date: 17/10/2026 09:43:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2439697
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


JudgeMental said:

I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

Send in the next blonde woman.

Maybe the next blonde woman will come in more prepared after a few gruelling fake press meetings.

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Date: 17/10/2026 09:50:21
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2439698
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

One day people will look back at this time and say ‘what the fuck were we thinking?’ And then go back to flying their vehicle to their biodome so they can take their helmet off and breathe.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/16/elon-musk-reveals-worlds-first-flying-car-spacex

It’s not the flying cars flying that’s a worry.

It’s the flying cars crashing.

Right now, car accidents are mostly confined to roads.

With flying cars; expect a vehicle crash anywhere at all.

How many indicators would a car flyer need.

Turn indicators.

Up and down indicators.

Pitch, yaw indicators?

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Date: 17/10/2026 10:05:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 2439702
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

I see the USA is looking for a new press secretary.

Send in the next blonde woman.

Maybe the next blonde woman will come in more prepared after a few gruelling fake press meetings.

He’s going to run out of blonde mouthpieces soon.

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Date: 17/10/2026 10:10:24
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2439704
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

One day people will look back at this time and say ‘what the fuck were we thinking?’ And then go back to flying their vehicle to their biodome so they can take their helmet off and breathe.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/16/elon-musk-reveals-worlds-first-flying-car-spacex

It’s not the flying cars flying that’s a worry.

It’s the flying cars crashing.

Right now, car accidents are mostly confined to roads.

With flying cars; expect a vehicle crash anywhere at all.

The big problem with the Muskmobile is that it seems to only have about two seconds of thrust available. Someone asked if the thruster gear could be used to avoid an accident and yes it could, but you need to know in advance where you want to land and it has to be no more than about two seconds away or you’re just going to add to the accident scene.
I am very confident in saying that I would not trust some rich wanker to be able to make those decisions in less than half a second.

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Date: 17/10/2026 10:14:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 2439705
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/16/elon-musk-reveals-worlds-first-flying-car-spacex

It’s not the flying cars flying that’s a worry.

It’s the flying cars crashing.

Right now, car accidents are mostly confined to roads.

With flying cars; expect a vehicle crash anywhere at all.

The big problem with the Muskmobile is that it seems to only have about two seconds of thrust available. Someone asked if the thruster gear could be used to avoid an accident and yes it could, but you need to know in advance where you want to land and it has to be no more than about two seconds away or you’re just going to add to the accident scene.
I am very confident in saying that I would not trust some rich wanker to be able to make those decisions in less than half a second.

:) agree.

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Date: 17/10/2026 10:18:06
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2439706
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Magnus has it sorted though.

Onya mate.

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Date: 17/10/2026 10:27:29
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2439708
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Magnus has it sorted though.

Onya mate.

Trump has admitted he doesn’t know what’s going to happen.

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Date: 17/10/2026 10:30:54
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2439709
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Magnus has it sorted though.

Onya mate.

Let’s see what he says when someone tells him magnets have two poles.

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Date: 17/10/2026 10:53:30
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2439714
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 17/10/2026 10:55:15
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2439716
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:



Sigh… not wrong.

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Date: 17/10/2026 10:56:32
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2439717
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/16/elon-musk-reveals-worlds-first-flying-car-spacex

It’s not the flying cars flying that’s a worry.

It’s the flying cars crashing.

Right now, car accidents are mostly confined to roads.

With flying cars; expect a vehicle crash anywhere at all.

The big problem with the Muskmobile is that it seems to only have about two seconds of thrust available. Someone asked if the thruster gear could be used to avoid an accident and yes it could, but you need to know in advance where you want to land and it has to be no more than about two seconds away or you’re just going to add to the accident scene.
I am very confident in saying that I would not trust some rich wanker to be able to make those decisions in less than half a second.

What about a poor wanker?

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Date: 17/10/2026 10:57:29
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2439719
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

It’s not the flying cars flying that’s a worry.

It’s the flying cars crashing.

Right now, car accidents are mostly confined to roads.

With flying cars; expect a vehicle crash anywhere at all.

The big problem with the Muskmobile is that it seems to only have about two seconds of thrust available. Someone asked if the thruster gear could be used to avoid an accident and yes it could, but you need to know in advance where you want to land and it has to be no more than about two seconds away or you’re just going to add to the accident scene.
I am very confident in saying that I would not trust some rich wanker to be able to make those decisions in less than half a second.

What about a poor wanker?

Likely to be someone that stole the car.

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Date: 17/10/2026 11:03:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 2439721
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Magnus has it sorted though.

Onya mate.

Magnetic personality.

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Date: 17/10/2026 11:04:13
From: Michael V
ID: 2439723
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

It’s not the flying cars flying that’s a worry.

It’s the flying cars crashing.

Right now, car accidents are mostly confined to roads.

With flying cars; expect a vehicle crash anywhere at all.

The big problem with the Muskmobile is that it seems to only have about two seconds of thrust available. Someone asked if the thruster gear could be used to avoid an accident and yes it could, but you need to know in advance where you want to land and it has to be no more than about two seconds away or you’re just going to add to the accident scene.
I am very confident in saying that I would not trust some rich wanker to be able to make those decisions in less than half a second.

What about a poor wanker?

Poor people can’t afford the car.

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Date: 17/10/2026 11:04:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 2439724
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


Spiny Norman said:

Magnus has it sorted though.

Onya mate.

Let’s see what he says when someone tells him magnets have two poles.

He “knows more about EVERYTHING than ANYONE else”. iin his words.

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Date: 17/10/2026 11:06:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 2439726
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:


Sigh… not wrong.

Yeah.

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Date: 17/10/2026 11:14:40
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2439729
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Spiny Norman said:

The big problem with the Muskmobile is that it seems to only have about two seconds of thrust available. Someone asked if the thruster gear could be used to avoid an accident and yes it could, but you need to know in advance where you want to land and it has to be no more than about two seconds away or you’re just going to add to the accident scene.
I am very confident in saying that I would not trust some rich wanker to be able to make those decisions in less than half a second.

What about a poor wanker?

Poor people can’t afford the car.

Those massive RAM trucks aren’t cheap either and look at the wankers that drive them.

(although one would expect a flying car to be somewhat more expensive)

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Date: 17/10/2026 11:34:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439735
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


Spiny Norman said:

Magnus has it sorted though.

Onya mate.

Trump has admitted he doesn’t know what’s going to happen.

Ejection seats.

Run by AI.

AI assesses driver’s capabilities.

If it decides that you’re too much of a dickhead to be trusted with a vehicle like this, it ejects you, then lands itself safely.

Just pondering on whether or not the ejection seat gets a parachute.

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Date: 17/10/2026 11:37:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439737
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Spiny Norman said:

Magnus has it sorted though.

Onya mate.

Trump has admitted he doesn’t know what’s going to happen.

Ejection seats.

Run by AI.

AI assesses driver’s capabilities.

If it decides that you’re too much of a dickhead to be trusted with a vehicle like this, it ejects you, then lands itself safely.

Just pondering on whether or not the ejection seat gets a parachute.

Wrong thread.

Good thing the Forum doesn’t have ejection seats.

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Date: 17/10/2026 11:48:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439742
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

A categorization of notable occasions and targets where Donald Trump has insulted or mocked others includes:

1. Primary Political Rivals (Nicknames & Demeanours)

During his presidential campaigns, Trump routinely assigned derogatory or mocking monikers to his opponents to undermine them:

• Jeb Bush: Repeatedly mocked as “low-energy” during the 2016 Republican primaries.

• Ted Cruz: Labeled “Lyin’ Ted” and questioned over his Canadian citizenship.

• Marco Rubio: Mocked as “Little Marco” and a “lightweight”.

• Hillary Clinton: Permanently dubbed “Crooked Hillary” throughout the 2016 general election.

• Joe Biden: Frequently referred to as “Sleepy Joe” during the 2020 and 2024 campaigns.

2. Journalists and the Media

Trump frequently clashed with members of the press, often attacking their intelligence or professional credibility:

• Serge F. Kovaleski: At a November 2015 campaign rally, Trump physically imitated and mocked the New York Times reporter, who has arthrogryposis (a congenital condition restricting joint movement).

• Megyn Kelly: Following a 2015 Republican primary debate, Trump criticized the Fox News host’s questioning by saying she had “blood coming out of her wherever,” which drew widespread public condemnation.

• Mika Brzezinski: In June 2017, Trump attacked the Morning Joe co-host on Twitter, calling her “crazy” and claiming she was “bleeding badly from a face-lift”.

• Reporters at Press Conferences: Frequently dismissed individual reporters by calling their questions “nasty”, calling them “fake news”, or stating they had a “very bad tone”.

3. Former Staff and Administration Officials

When former allies or administration officials broke ranks or criticized him, Trump frequently responded with public insults:

• Jeff Sessions: Publicly berated his former Attorney General as “unfair” and weak for recusing himself from the Russia investigation.

• James Comey: After firing the FBI Director in 2017, Trump publicly referred to him as a “nut job” and a “liar”.

• Chris Christie: Mocked the former New Jersey Governor’s weight and dismissed him from his transition team.

4. Military Figures and War Veterans

• John McCain: In July 2015, Trump mocked the long-serving Senator and former prisoner of war, stating, “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured”.

5. Demographic Groups and Electorates

• Mexican Immigrants: During his 2015 campaign launch speech, he infamously labeled Mexican immigrants as “rapists” and criminals bringing drugs across the border.

• Iowa Voters: In November 2015, after falling behind Ben Carson in an Iowa poll, Trump openly questioned the intelligence of the state’s electorate, asking a crowd, “How stupid are the people of Iowa?”.

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Date: 17/10/2026 11:54:35
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439746
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump: ‘I’m Supposed To Be Sleeping Now, But I’m Not A Big Sleeper’

1:00 pm, 15 Oct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-mRyWH0BqE (2 min 49 sec)

‘Sleepy’ Joe Biden, huh?

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Date: 17/10/2026 12:01:47
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2439747
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

Trump: ‘I’m Supposed To Be Sleeping Now, But I’m Not A Big Sleeper’

1:00 pm, 15 Oct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-mRyWH0BqE (2 min 49 sec)

‘Sleepy’ Joe Biden, huh?

Sleepy Joe managed to stay awake throughout the whole Sept 11 memorial ceremony, just sayin

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Date: 17/10/2026 12:18:45
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439754
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

Trump: ‘I’m Supposed To Be Sleeping Now, But I’m Not A Big Sleeper’

1:00 pm, 15 Oct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-mRyWH0BqE (2 min 49 sec)

‘Sleepy’ Joe Biden, huh?

Sleepy Joe managed to stay awake throughout the whole Sept 11 memorial ceremony, just sayin

In the same interview, Trump revealed that the Ukraine invasion and war are due to Joe Biden’s lack of manners:

‘Trump pointed to Biden’s public posture toward Moscow as a cause of the conflict in Ukraine.

“Part of the reason you have that war in the first place is Biden went around mocking Russia and mocking everybody else and didn’t know what he was doing,” he said. “That was a war that should have never started.”’

https://nextnewsnetwork.com/2026/10/15/trump-says-he-avoids-insulting-leaders-to-make-deals-blames-biden-for-ukraine-war-39471808

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Date: 17/10/2026 12:29:52
From: Michael V
ID: 2439757
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

Trump: ‘I’m Supposed To Be Sleeping Now, But I’m Not A Big Sleeper’

1:00 pm, 15 Oct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-mRyWH0BqE (2 min 49 sec)

‘Sleepy’ Joe Biden, huh?

Sleepy Joe managed to stay awake throughout the whole Sept 11 memorial ceremony, just sayin

Heh.

I reckon Trump was just bored. Mostly because it wasn’t all about him. (Look at me, look at me, look at me – Kath Day-Knight.)

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Date: 17/10/2026 12:35:00
From: kii
ID: 2439763
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

In the same interview, Trump revealed that the Ukraine invasion and war are due to Joe Biden’s lack of manners:

‘Trump pointed to Biden’s public posture toward Moscow as a cause of the conflict in Ukraine.

“Part of the reason you have that war in the first place is Biden went around mocking Russia and mocking everybody else and didn’t know what he was doing,” he said. “That was a war that should have never started.”’

https://nextnewsnetwork.com/2026/10/15/trump-says-he-avoids-insulting-leaders-to-make-deals-blames-biden-for-ukraine-war-39471808

He is such a severely damaged man. Dangerously damaged. One thing that I am grateful for is knowing what a piece of shit he is before I even knew too much about him.

At Barnes & Noble there was a dedicated bay featuring that dreadful book he is famous for, The Art of the Deal. It was in an area that many people would have walked by when going to the public toilets. His name and the name of the show rang a distant bell. Just looking at the cover of the book and having a vague idea about the premise of that reality show was more than enough for me to assess him as a wanker.

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Date: 17/10/2026 12:36:03
From: Michael V
ID: 2439764
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

captain_spalding said:

Trump: ‘I’m Supposed To Be Sleeping Now, But I’m Not A Big Sleeper’

1:00 pm, 15 Oct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-mRyWH0BqE (2 min 49 sec)

‘Sleepy’ Joe Biden, huh?

Sleepy Joe managed to stay awake throughout the whole Sept 11 memorial ceremony, just sayin

In the same interview, Trump revealed that the Ukraine invasion and war are due to Joe Biden’s lack of manners:

‘Trump pointed to Biden’s public posture toward Moscow as a cause of the conflict in Ukraine.

“Part of the reason you have that war in the first place is Biden went around mocking Russia and mocking everybody else and didn’t know what he was doing,” he said. “That was a war that should have never started.”’

https://nextnewsnetwork.com/2026/10/15/trump-says-he-avoids-insulting-leaders-to-make-deals-blames-biden-for-ukraine-war-39471808

Fk Trump and all who sail with him.

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Date: 17/10/2026 12:53:48
From: Woodie
ID: 2439778
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

It’s not the flying cars flying that’s a worry.

It’s the flying cars crashing.

Right now, car accidents are mostly confined to roads.

With flying cars; expect a vehicle crash anywhere at all.

The big problem with the Muskmobile is that it seems to only have about two seconds of thrust available. Someone asked if the thruster gear could be used to avoid an accident and yes it could, but you need to know in advance where you want to land and it has to be no more than about two seconds away or you’re just going to add to the accident scene.
I am very confident in saying that I would not trust some rich wanker to be able to make those decisions in less than half a second.

What about a poor wanker?

You rang?

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Date: 17/10/2026 12:57:45
From: kii
ID: 2439783
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Sometimes you need to let the elders walk off into the wilderness and join the ancestors. For the good of the tribe.

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Date: 17/10/2026 13:31:08
From: party_pants
ID: 2439802
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

After one disastrous press conference, Katie Zacharia has resigned/been sacked. Didn’t even last a week.

Apparently she is not a real lawyer, she failed the bar exam in California. So she cannot legally call herself a lawyer in the US. This sort of thing usually gets sorted and vetted in the hiring process.

One would almost guess that she was hired on her looks rather than her credentials…

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Date: 17/10/2026 13:32:09
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439804
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


After one disastrous press conference, Katie Zacharia has resigned/been sacked. Didn’t even last a week.

Apparently she is not a real lawyer, she failed the bar exam in California. So she cannot legally call herself a lawyer in the US. This sort of thing usually gets sorted and vetted in the hiring process.

One would almost guess that she was hired on her looks rather than her credentials…

I wonder what her replacement will look like?

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Date: 17/10/2026 13:33:38
From: party_pants
ID: 2439805
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

After one disastrous press conference, Katie Zacharia has resigned/been sacked. Didn’t even last a week.

Apparently she is not a real lawyer, she failed the bar exam in California. So she cannot legally call herself a lawyer in the US. This sort of thing usually gets sorted and vetted in the hiring process.

One would almost guess that she was hired on her looks rather than her credentials…

I wonder what her replacement will look like?

thinks

I’ll guess blonde with big tits.

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Date: 17/10/2026 13:34:33
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439807
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

After one disastrous press conference, Katie Zacharia has resigned/been sacked. Didn’t even last a week.

Apparently she is not a real lawyer, she failed the bar exam in California. So she cannot legally call herself a lawyer in the US. This sort of thing usually gets sorted and vetted in the hiring process.

One would almost guess that she was hired on her looks rather than her credentials…

I wonder what her replacement will look like?

thinks

I’ll guess blonde with big tits.

Or, will they deliberately go for someone who looks unlike that?

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Date: 17/10/2026 13:42:48
From: dv
ID: 2439810
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 17/10/2026 13:55:00
From: Michael V
ID: 2439815
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



LOLz

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Date: 17/10/2026 14:26:51
From: kii
ID: 2439828
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Some of us have had a menstrual period that lasted longer than her period of being a press secretary.

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Date: 17/10/2026 14:31:41
From: party_pants
ID: 2439829
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

I wonder what her replacement will look like?

thinks

I’ll guess blonde with big tits.

Or, will they deliberately go for someone who looks unlike that?

same job, same boss, same selection criteria :)

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Date: 17/10/2026 14:38:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439830
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

thinks

I’ll guess blonde with big tits.

Or, will they deliberately go for someone who looks unlike that?

same job, same boss, same selection criteria :)

More than likely.

Got to keep the infant happy.

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Date: 17/10/2026 14:59:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2439835
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:


Some of us have had a menstrual period that lasted longer than her period of being a press secretary.

It was painful to watch for the whole period too.

No pills for that either.

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Date: 17/10/2026 15:03:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439837
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


kii said:

dv said:


Some of us have had a menstrual period that lasted longer than her period of being a press secretary.

It was painful to watch for the whole period too.

No pills for that either.

A lettuce outlasted Liz Truss as British PM

I think that a banana would have easily outlasted Katie Zacharia’s term as press secretary.

Hell, i reckon that a wet fish would have given her a run for the money!

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Date: 17/10/2026 15:04:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2439838
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



They need a few weeks of gruelling fake press conferences to prepare themselves, not just looking at videos.

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Date: 17/10/2026 15:06:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2439839
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

kii said:

Some of us have had a menstrual period that lasted longer than her period of being a press secretary.

It was painful to watch for the whole period too.

No pills for that either.

A lettuce outlasted Liz Truss as British PM

I think that a banana would have easily outlasted Katie Zacharia’s term as press secretary.

Hell, i reckon that a wet fish would have given her a run for the money!

Cringe meter read high every viewing.

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Date: 17/10/2026 15:06:26
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2439840
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:


They need a few weeks of gruelling fake press conferences to prepare themselves, not just looking at videos.

And not just facing Dorothy Dixers in those training sessions.

Give ‘em a few of the questions that the White House pray every day will not be asked.

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Date: 17/10/2026 15:11:11
From: kii
ID: 2439841
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


kii said:

dv said:


Some of us have had a menstrual period that lasted longer than her period of being a press secretary.

It was painful to watch for the whole period too.

No pills for that either.

THC gummies might help.

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Date: 17/10/2026 15:11:51
From: Woodie
ID: 2439842
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


After one disastrous press conference, Katie Zacharia has resigned/been sacked. Didn’t even last a week.

Apparently she is not a real lawyer, she failed the bar exam in California. So she cannot legally call herself a lawyer in the US. This sort of thing usually gets sorted and vetted in the hiring process.

One would almost guess that she was hired on her looks rather than her credentials…

Is this correct disastrous press conference available for all to see?

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Date: 17/10/2026 15:14:46
From: Woodie
ID: 2439843
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

After one disastrous press conference, Katie Zacharia has resigned/been sacked. Didn’t even last a week.

Apparently she is not a real lawyer, she failed the bar exam in California. So she cannot legally call herself a lawyer in the US. This sort of thing usually gets sorted and vetted in the hiring process.

One would almost guess that she was hired on her looks rather than her credentials…

I wonder what her replacement will look like?

Bring back Caroline I say!!! At least you’d get some entertainment out of her, hey what but.

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Date: 17/10/2026 16:42:09
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2439854
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

OK donations whatever but I think the real issue here is JFK jr posting from beyond the grave.

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Date: 17/10/2026 17:09:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 2439863
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

“A bystander saw the shooting begin to unfold, pursued the attacker into the school and shot him dead, police explained.”

>A good man with a gun?

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Date: 17/10/2026 17:25:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439869
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

It was painful to watch for the whole period too.

No pills for that either.

A lettuce outlasted Liz Truss as British PM

I think that a banana would have easily outlasted Katie Zacharia’s term as press secretary.

Hell, i reckon that a wet fish would have given her a run for the money!

Cringe meter read high every viewing.

good news at least everyone’s talking about something other than jeevacation

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Date: 17/10/2026 17:28:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2439874
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


OK donations whatever but I think the real issue here is JFK jr posting from beyond the grave.


Trump said he would donate all his salary. As I understand it, he didn’t. Michelle actually did stuff – good works you might say. Melania does almost nothing.

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Date: 17/10/2026 17:29:50
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2439875
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

A lettuce outlasted Liz Truss as British PM

I think that a banana would have easily outlasted Katie Zacharia’s term as press secretary.

Hell, i reckon that a wet fish would have given her a run for the money!

Cringe meter read high every viewing.

good news at least everyone’s talking about something other than jeevacation

No Jedi Training.

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Date: 17/10/2026 17:30:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2439877
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

It’s not the flying cars flying that’s a worry.

It’s the flying cars crashing.

Right now, car accidents are mostly confined to roads.

With flying cars; expect a vehicle crash anywhere at all.

The big problem with the Muskmobile is that it seems to only have about two seconds of thrust available. Someone asked if the thruster gear could be used to avoid an accident and yes it could, but you need to know in advance where you want to land and it has to be no more than about two seconds away or you’re just going to add to the accident scene.
I am very confident in saying that I would not trust some rich wanker to be able to make those decisions in less than half a second.

:) agree.

can’t they just stick to being gelatinised in a submersible

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Date: 17/10/2026 17:33:55
From: Michael V
ID: 2439879
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

A lettuce outlasted Liz Truss as British PM

I think that a banana would have easily outlasted Katie Zacharia’s term as press secretary.

Hell, i reckon that a wet fish would have given her a run for the money!

Cringe meter read high every viewing.

good news at least everyone’s talking about something other than jeevacation

So true.

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Date: 17/10/2026 18:54:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2439903
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

OK donations whatever but I think the real issue here is JFK jr posting from beyond the grave.


Trump said he would donate all his salary. As I understand it, he didn’t. Michelle actually did stuff – good works you might say. Melania does almost nothing.

Don’t argue with the dead.

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Date: 17/10/2026 19:02:32
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2439906
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

OK donations whatever but I think the real issue here is JFK jr posting from beyond the grave.


Trump said he would donate all his salary. As I understand it, he didn’t. Michelle actually did stuff – good works you might say. Melania does almost nothing.

Don’t argue with the dead.

LOL

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Date: 17/10/2026 19:09:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2439909
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

OK donations whatever but I think the real issue here is JFK jr posting from beyond the grave.


Trump said he would donate all his salary. As I understand it, he didn’t. Michelle actually did stuff – good works you might say. Melania does almost nothing.

Don’t argue with the dead.

Dead, my arse.

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Date: 17/10/2026 19:12:14
From: party_pants
ID: 2439910
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Trump said he would donate all his salary. As I understand it, he didn’t. Michelle actually did stuff – good works you might say. Melania does almost nothing.

Don’t argue with the dead.

Dead, my arse.

I wont argue with your arse either.

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Date: 18/10/2026 19:57:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2440176
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 18/10/2026 20:02:18
From: kii
ID: 2440177
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged


Have you watched the video? Make sure that you check out the Secret Service dudes.

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Date: 18/10/2026 20:15:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2440180
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


SCIENCE said:

alleged


Have you watched the video? Make sure that you check out the Secret Service dudes.

I think Donny saw a mud puddle in the distance, and wanted go and roll in it.

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Date: 18/10/2026 20:17:02
From: kii
ID: 2440181
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged


Have you watched the video? Make sure that you check out the Secret Service dudes.

I think Donny saw a mud puddle in the distance, and wanted go and roll in it.

Wallow.

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Date: 18/10/2026 20:20:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2440182
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


captain_spalding said:

kii said:

Have you watched the video? Make sure that you check out the Secret Service dudes.

I think Donny saw a mud puddle in the distance, and wanted go and roll in it.

Wallow.

That’s the word.

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Date: 18/10/2026 20:20:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2440183
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


captain_spalding said:

kii said:

Have you watched the video? Make sure that you check out the Secret Service dudes.

I think Donny saw a mud puddle in the distance, and wanted go and roll in it.

Wallow.

That’s the word.

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Date: 18/10/2026 20:28:07
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2440184
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged


I can’t get the sound to play.

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Date: 18/10/2026 20:31:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2440186
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


SCIENCE said:

alleged


I can’t get the sound to play.

I don’t think that there’s much in the way of sound.

It’s mostly about Grandpa Befuddlepants zoning out, wandering past the open door of his limo, and doddering towards the distant horizon.

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Date: 19/10/2026 10:25:52
From: ms spock
ID: 2440291
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Voter suppression in the US

Link

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Date: 19/10/2026 10:50:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2440299
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

via Jeff Tiedrich’s page, re the ‘No Kings’ protest:

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Date: 19/10/2026 11:32:03
From: Michael V
ID: 2440312
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


via Jeff Tiedrich’s page, re the ‘No Kings’ protest:

:)

:)

:)

:)

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Date: 19/10/2026 11:34:57
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2440315
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Mmmmm …. yummy ear wax.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Trumpvirus/comments/1×9geow/mmm_yummy/

Trump supporter at one of his rallies.

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Date: 19/10/2026 11:44:55
From: ms spock
ID: 2440328
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


via Jeff Tiedrich’s page, re the ‘No Kings’ protest:

:)

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Date: 19/10/2026 13:14:13
From: buffy
ID: 2440375
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Something from my Houston sister’s Facebook again.

Link

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Date: 19/10/2026 15:31:50
From: ms spock
ID: 2440420
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Something from my Houston sister’s Facebook again.

Link

Indeed

Greg Palast’s documentary covers this issue and others in “Vigilantes Inc”. It is free on YouTube.

Link

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Date: 20/10/2026 01:20:47
From: dv
ID: 2440550
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

He won his election lol

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Date: 20/10/2026 03:14:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2440562
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

He won his election lol

which team

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Date: 20/10/2026 07:52:55
From: ms spock
ID: 2440579
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

As Donald Trump openly sides with Russia in the war on Ukraine, forensic psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee returns to assess the motivation behind his treachery, and what people can do to support themselves and each other during this traumatic collapse of American democracy and decency – only on The Weekend Show.

Link for the interview

1 hour

Visit www.bandylee.com Link

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Date: 20/10/2026 08:05:19
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2440582
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

President Donald Trump reiterated his demand to rename New Mexico as “New America” on Monday.

“New Mexico should immediately change its name to New America,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “We are not Mexico, we are the United States of America! The name would add great value and prestige to the State! Home Values and Incomes would rise, and you would be even prouder while saluting our beautiful American Flag! Maybe even the Crooked Elections, that New Mexico is known for, would become honest again!”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/4771178/trump-new-mexico-change-name-new-america/

I’m not an expert in state naming, but it’s my understanding that New Mexico was named before the country of Mexico?

Next he’ll want the galaxy to be renamed Trump American Way Galaxy.

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Date: 20/10/2026 08:07:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 2440584
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


President Donald Trump reiterated his demand to rename New Mexico as “New America” on Monday.

“New Mexico should immediately change its name to New America,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “We are not Mexico, we are the United States of America! The name would add great value and prestige to the State! Home Values and Incomes would rise, and you would be even prouder while saluting our beautiful American Flag! Maybe even the Crooked Elections, that New Mexico is known for, would become honest again!”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/4771178/trump-new-mexico-change-name-new-america/

I’m not an expert in state naming, but it’s my understanding that New Mexico was named before the country of Mexico?

Next he’ll want the galaxy to be renamed Trump American Way Galaxy.

If God really exists, Trump should have been dealt with by now.

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Date: 20/10/2026 10:30:47
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2440592
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


President Donald Trump reiterated his demand to rename New Mexico as “New America” on Monday.

“New Mexico should immediately change its name to New America,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “We are not Mexico, we are the United States of America! The name would add great value and prestige to the State! Home Values and Incomes would rise, and you would be even prouder while saluting our beautiful American Flag! Maybe even the Crooked Elections, that New Mexico is known for, would become honest again!”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/4771178/trump-new-mexico-change-name-new-america/

I’m not an expert in state naming, but it’s my understanding that New Mexico was named before the country of Mexico?

Next he’ll want the galaxy to be renamed Trump American Way Galaxy.

How do you mean? The nation Mexico dates from 1821 and it’s name ‘United Mexican States (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos)’ is named after it’s capital city Mexico City. Wikipedia doesn’t seem to say when the city name became common usage but it itself is named after the Mexica people who we know as the Aztecs.

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:01:32
From: btm
ID: 2440597
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Divine Angel said:

President Donald Trump reiterated his demand to rename New Mexico as “New America” on Monday.

“New Mexico should immediately change its name to New America,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “We are not Mexico, we are the United States of America! The name would add great value and prestige to the State! Home Values and Incomes would rise, and you would be even prouder while saluting our beautiful American Flag! Maybe even the Crooked Elections, that New Mexico is known for, would become honest again!”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/4771178/trump-new-mexico-change-name-new-america/

I’m not an expert in state naming, but it’s my understanding that New Mexico was named before the country of Mexico?

Next he’ll want the galaxy to be renamed Trump American Way Galaxy.

How do you mean? The nation Mexico dates from 1821 and it’s name ‘United Mexican States (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos)’ is named after it’s capital city Mexico City. Wikipedia doesn’t seem to say when the city name became common usage but it itself is named after the Mexica people who we know as the Aztecs.

The state of New Mexico was named by Spanish explorers in around 1563. That means NM was so named more than 200 years before the country. Or am I missing your point?

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:10:55
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2440605
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Just two weeks out from the mid terms. The generic ballot seems to have largely stabilised somewhere between 9% and 10%, which is interesting because we’re not seeing the sort of general tightening that is more typical as polling day approaches.

This is translating to an almost 95% chance that the Dems will control the House and a 76% chance they win the Senate

There are still a few Senate races that are probably closer than the polls are indicating and specifically I’m a bit worried about Maine and Michigan as Dems need both of these to swing, to really have a chance at gaining a majority.

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:13:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2440606
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

btm said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Divine Angel said:

President Donald Trump reiterated his demand to rename New Mexico as “New America” on Monday.

“New Mexico should immediately change its name to New America,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “We are not Mexico, we are the United States of America! The name would add great value and prestige to the State! Home Values and Incomes would rise, and you would be even prouder while saluting our beautiful American Flag! Maybe even the Crooked Elections, that New Mexico is known for, would become honest again!”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/4771178/trump-new-mexico-change-name-new-america/

I’m not an expert in state naming, but it’s my understanding that New Mexico was named before the country of Mexico?

Next he’ll want the galaxy to be renamed Trump American Way Galaxy.

How do you mean? The nation Mexico dates from 1821 and it’s name ‘United Mexican States (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos)’ is named after it’s capital city Mexico City. Wikipedia doesn’t seem to say when the city name became common usage but it itself is named after the Mexica people who we know as the Aztecs.

The state of New Mexico was named by Spanish explorers in around 1563. That means NM was so named more than 200 years before the country. Or am I missing your point?

in Советских ussa, new you comes before you

wait

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:34:37
From: Neophyte
ID: 2440619
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:39:35
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2440622
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

From Preznit Shitpants:

Note the specific references to ‘diesel refineries’, ‘diesel markets’ , and Russia ‘sending…millions of barrels of diesel’.

Not ‘fuel refineries’, not petrochemical plants, not ‘energy plants’, not ‘fuel infrastructure’. Diesel.

I think that this lends some support to my remarks a few days back that Shitpants is doing deals with Vlad (starting with, but not limited to, the 300,000 tonnes of diesel of recent days), and that the Preznit is personally profiting from it all.

Donny does do anything unless there’s money in it for him. Never has, never will.

Donny and the Space Nazi switched off Starlink for Ukraine during a missile attack to punish Zelensky for targetting diesel production because disrupting diesel production puts Shtipants’ pay-off at risk. It was punishment and threat, pure and simple.

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:42:01
From: Cymek
ID: 2440624
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:



I reckon he’d dance like the old batman from the tv series

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:44:52
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2440626
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Neophyte said:


I reckon he’d dance like the old batman from the tv series

His style of dancing has been described as ‘jerking off two giraffes simultaneously’.

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:45:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2440627
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:46:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 2440629
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


From Preznit Shitpants:

Note the specific references to ‘diesel refineries’, ‘diesel markets’ , and Russia ‘sending…millions of barrels of diesel’.

Not ‘fuel refineries’, not petrochemical plants, not ‘energy plants’, not ‘fuel infrastructure’. Diesel.

I think that this lends some support to my remarks a few days back that Shitpants is doing deals with Vlad (starting with, but not limited to, the 300,000 tonnes of diesel of recent days), and that the Preznit is personally profiting from it all.

Donny does do anything unless there’s money in it for him. Never has, never will.

Donny and the Space Nazi switched off Starlink for Ukraine during a missile attack to punish Zelensky for targetting diesel production because disrupting diesel production puts Shtipants’ pay-off at risk. It was punishment and threat, pure and simple.

All for 12 to 16 hours of diesel. That’s all 300 million tonnes will do for America. He’s pissing in his own teacup.

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:48:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 2440631
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

Neophyte said:


I reckon he’d dance like the old batman from the tv series

His style of dancing has been described as ‘jerking off two giraffes simultaneously’.

and he knows more about giraffes than anyone.. yes, that’s everyone.

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:51:46
From: Cymek
ID: 2440634
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

From Preznit Shitpants:

Note the specific references to ‘diesel refineries’, ‘diesel markets’ , and Russia ‘sending…millions of barrels of diesel’.

Not ‘fuel refineries’, not petrochemical plants, not ‘energy plants’, not ‘fuel infrastructure’. Diesel.

I think that this lends some support to my remarks a few days back that Shitpants is doing deals with Vlad (starting with, but not limited to, the 300,000 tonnes of diesel of recent days), and that the Preznit is personally profiting from it all.

Donny does do anything unless there’s money in it for him. Never has, never will.

Donny and the Space Nazi switched off Starlink for Ukraine during a missile attack to punish Zelensky for targetting diesel production because disrupting diesel production puts Shtipants’ pay-off at risk. It was punishment and threat, pure and simple.

All for 12 to 16 hours of diesel. That’s all 300 million tonnes will do for America. He’s pissing in his own teacup.

I can imagine reserves vs actual needs is vastly difference and reserves really are emergency amounts you couldn’t expect to last more than days or a week.

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:52:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2440635
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:

All for 12 to 16 hours of diesel. That’s all 300 million tonnes will do for America. He’s pissing in his own teacup.

He doesn’t much care whether it’s10 tonnes of diesel , or 10 trillion tonnes of diesel, as long as he gets (or believes he’ll get) the payoff that he’s been promised.

Putin cares a bit more about the deal, because he needs the diesel production to stay in operation, or else his war in Ukraine grinds to a halt. So, he pays Trump, and Trump punishes/threatens Zelensky into laying off the diesel installations. With Elon’s help, for which Elon get some favours in future.

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:53:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 2440636
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

All for 12 to 16 hours of diesel. That’s all 300 million tonnes will do for America. He’s pissing in his own teacup.

He doesn’t much care whether it’s10 tonnes of diesel , or 10 trillion tonnes of diesel, as long as he gets (or believes he’ll get) the payoff that he’s been promised.

Putin cares a bit more about the deal, because he needs the diesel production to stay in operation, or else his war in Ukraine grinds to a halt. So, he pays Trump, and Trump punishes/threatens Zelensky into laying off the diesel installations. With Elon’s help, for which Elon get some favours in future.

May they drown in their oily malfunctions.

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Date: 20/10/2026 11:58:34
From: Cymek
ID: 2440637
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

All for 12 to 16 hours of diesel. That’s all 300 million tonnes will do for America. He’s pissing in his own teacup.

He doesn’t much care whether it’s10 tonnes of diesel , or 10 trillion tonnes of diesel, as long as he gets (or believes he’ll get) the payoff that he’s been promised.

Putin cares a bit more about the deal, because he needs the diesel production to stay in operation, or else his war in Ukraine grinds to a halt. So, he pays Trump, and Trump punishes/threatens Zelensky into laying off the diesel installations. With Elon’s help, for which Elon get some favours in future.

May they drown in their oily malfunctions.

Isn’t diesel needed for tanks and such and not really something you can sell off during war times.
A legitimate target for sure

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Date: 20/10/2026 12:05:55
From: Cymek
ID: 2440638
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

He doesn’t much care whether it’s10 tonnes of diesel , or 10 trillion tonnes of diesel, as long as he gets (or believes he’ll get) the payoff that he’s been promised.

Putin cares a bit more about the deal, because he needs the diesel production to stay in operation, or else his war in Ukraine grinds to a halt. So, he pays Trump, and Trump punishes/threatens Zelensky into laying off the diesel installations. With Elon’s help, for which Elon get some favours in future.

May they drown in their oily malfunctions.

Isn’t diesel needed for tanks and such and not really something you can sell off during war times.
A legitimate target for sure

Putin “Trump old buddy, old pay, hey guy”

Trump “Putin you old sexy war dog”

Putin “Please be getting that Zelensky to not target our rotten cabbage factories, my comrades will starve”

Trump “Sure we’ll hobble his ability to defend and attack, you get rid of those photos though”

Putin “Hey guy one step at a time, you’re my personal bitch remember”

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Date: 20/10/2026 12:16:24
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2440641
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

btm said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Divine Angel said:

President Donald Trump reiterated his demand to rename New Mexico as “New America” on Monday.

“New Mexico should immediately change its name to New America,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “We are not Mexico, we are the United States of America! The name would add great value and prestige to the State! Home Values and Incomes would rise, and you would be even prouder while saluting our beautiful American Flag! Maybe even the Crooked Elections, that New Mexico is known for, would become honest again!”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/4771178/trump-new-mexico-change-name-new-america/

I’m not an expert in state naming, but it’s my understanding that New Mexico was named before the country of Mexico?

Next he’ll want the galaxy to be renamed Trump American Way Galaxy.

How do you mean? The nation Mexico dates from 1821 and it’s name ‘United Mexican States (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos)’ is named after it’s capital city Mexico City. Wikipedia doesn’t seem to say when the city name became common usage but it itself is named after the Mexica people who we know as the Aztecs.

The state of New Mexico was named by Spanish explorers in around 1563. That means NM was so named more than 200 years before the country. Or am I missing your point?

Yes. NM was named after the city AFAICT.. If there wasn’t an ‘old’ Mexico why did they name it ‘new” Mexico?

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Date: 20/10/2026 12:30:14
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2440647
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Neophyte said:


I reckon he’d dance like the old batman from the tv series

Dance like you’re wafting a fart

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Date: 20/10/2026 12:32:39
From: btm
ID: 2440650
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


btm said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

How do you mean? The nation Mexico dates from 1821 and it’s name ‘United Mexican States (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos)’ is named after it’s capital city Mexico City. Wikipedia doesn’t seem to say when the city name became common usage but it itself is named after the Mexica people who we know as the Aztecs.

The state of New Mexico was named by Spanish explorers in around 1563. That means NM was so named more than 200 years before the country. Or am I missing your point?

Yes. NM was named after the city AFAICT.. If there wasn’t an ‘old’ Mexico why did they name it ‘new” Mexico?

No, NM was named after the Valley of Mexico, which itself was named after the Mexica (aka Aztecs).

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Date: 20/10/2026 12:52:06
From: kii
ID: 2440657
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

btm said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

btm said:

The state of New Mexico was named by Spanish explorers in around 1563. That means NM was so named more than 200 years before the country. Or am I missing your point?

Yes. NM was named after the city AFAICT.. If there wasn’t an ‘old’ Mexico why did they name it ‘new” Mexico?

No, NM was named after the Valley of Mexico, which itself was named after the Mexica (aka Aztecs).

How New Mexico got named is a tad convoluted. Smart arses always go the shortest distance between 2 points. New Mexico…Old Mexico.

Always reminds me of the people who complain about International Women’s Day. For some reason.

Thanks, btm.

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Date: 20/10/2026 12:59:02
From: Michael V
ID: 2440659
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Cymek said:

Neophyte said:


I reckon he’d dance like the old batman from the tv series

Dance like you’re wafting a fart

Snort.

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Date: 20/10/2026 13:07:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2440662
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Cymek said:

I reckon he’d dance like the old batman from the tv series

Dance like you’re wafting a fart

Snort.

Melania Trump sings this a lot:

I see you baby shaking that ass Shaking that ass, shaking that ass I see you baby shaking that ass Shaking that ass, shaking that ass, alright, don’t touch me

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Date: 20/10/2026 13:08:21
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2440664
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

btm said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

btm said:

The state of New Mexico was named by Spanish explorers in around 1563. That means NM was so named more than 200 years before the country. Or am I missing your point?

Yes. NM was named after the city AFAICT.. If there wasn’t an ‘old’ Mexico why did they name it ‘new” Mexico?

No, NM was named after the Valley of Mexico, which itself was named after the Mexica (aka Aztecs).

So NM is named after existing region name in common usage at the time. That’s my point. Though I may have misinterpreted DA’s original post.

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Date: 20/10/2026 13:41:16
From: Michael V
ID: 2440668
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


btm said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Yes. NM was named after the city AFAICT.. If there wasn’t an ‘old’ Mexico why did they name it ‘new” Mexico?

No, NM was named after the Valley of Mexico, which itself was named after the Mexica (aka Aztecs).

How New Mexico got named is a tad convoluted. Smart arses always go the shortest distance between 2 points. New Mexico…Old Mexico.

Always reminds me of the people who complain about International Women’s Day. For some reason.

Thanks, btm.

And then there is the US border city, Calexico, adjacent to Mexicali city in Mexico.

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Date: 20/10/2026 13:46:14
From: Cymek
ID: 2440669
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

btm said:

No, NM was named after the Valley of Mexico, which itself was named after the Mexica (aka Aztecs).

How New Mexico got named is a tad convoluted. Smart arses always go the shortest distance between 2 points. New Mexico…Old Mexico.

Always reminds me of the people who complain about International Women’s Day. For some reason.

Thanks, btm.

And then there is the US border city, Calexico, adjacent to Mexicali city in Mexico.

I remember New Mexico as where the Mythbusters used to go to test rocket sleds and such

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Date: 20/10/2026 13:56:24
From: Neophyte
ID: 2440670
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Michael V said:

kii said:

How New Mexico got named is a tad convoluted. Smart arses always go the shortest distance between 2 points. New Mexico…Old Mexico.

Always reminds me of the people who complain about International Women’s Day. For some reason.

Thanks, btm.

And then there is the US border city, Calexico, adjacent to Mexicali city in Mexico.

I remember New Mexico as where the Mythbusters used to go to test rocket sleds and such

Leave us not forget Tom Jones’s smash hit “The Young New Mexican Puppeteer”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFlDaBPwS0k

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Date: 20/10/2026 14:08:16
From: ms spock
ID: 2440674
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Now this is a concern.

Link

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Date: 20/10/2026 14:08:57
From: Michael V
ID: 2440675
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Michael V said:

kii said:

How New Mexico got named is a tad convoluted. Smart arses always go the shortest distance between 2 points. New Mexico…Old Mexico.

Always reminds me of the people who complain about International Women’s Day. For some reason.

Thanks, btm.

And then there is the US border city, Calexico, adjacent to Mexicali city in Mexico.

I remember New Mexico as where the Mythbusters used to go to test rocket sleds and such

Also Roswell and the UFO incident.

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Date: 20/10/2026 14:19:42
From: Cymek
ID: 2440679
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Cymek said:

Michael V said:

And then there is the US border city, Calexico, adjacent to Mexicali city in Mexico.

I remember New Mexico as where the Mythbusters used to go to test rocket sleds and such

Also Roswell and the UFO incident.

Yes that as well

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Date: 20/10/2026 14:20:02
From: Cymek
ID: 2440680
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Cymek said:

Michael V said:

And then there is the US border city, Calexico, adjacent to Mexicali city in Mexico.

I remember New Mexico as where the Mythbusters used to go to test rocket sleds and such

Also Roswell and the UFO incident.

Damn illegal immigrants in this day and age

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Date: 20/10/2026 14:22:17
From: ms spock
ID: 2440681
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Michael V said:

Cymek said:

I remember New Mexico as where the Mythbusters used to go to test rocket sleds and such

Also Roswell and the UFO incident.

Damn illegal immigrants in this day and age

:)

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Date: 20/10/2026 14:47:51
From: Michael V
ID: 2440687
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Now this is a concern.

Link

Note the date of the FBI video. Something is dodgy.

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Date: 20/10/2026 14:51:41
From: Cymek
ID: 2440689
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

Now this is a concern.

Link

Note the date of the FBI video. Something is dodgy.

I can imagine disappearing into police care in the USA would be quite intimidating
Probably have a colour chart for skin colour and the wrong one and whoops you fell down those stairs

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Date: 20/10/2026 14:59:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2440691
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Michael V said:

ms spock said:

Now this is a concern.

Link

Note the date of the FBI video. Something is dodgy.

I can imagine disappearing into police care in the USA would be quite intimidating
Probably have a colour chart for skin colour and the wrong one and whoops you fell down those stairs

The video claims that intimidation (supposedly shown in the clip) is happening two weeks out from the US Mid-term Elections. This clip is from January. It’s a dodgy video.

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Date: 20/10/2026 15:23:14
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2440694
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

Now this is a concern.

Link

Note the date of the FBI video. Something is dodgy.

this is referencing a raid that took place in Fulton County in Jan – it’s essentially clickbait reporting.

A+ effort from 60 Minutes

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Date: 20/10/2026 15:29:03
From: kii
ID: 2440695
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

He’s going to be in here more often, isn’t he? You know, with these upcoming elections.

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Date: 20/10/2026 15:57:39
From: Cymek
ID: 2440697
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


He’s going to be in here more often, isn’t he? You know, with these upcoming elections.

You love it
Only Trump himself could top it

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Date: 20/10/2026 16:04:56
From: kii
ID: 2440699
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


kii said:

He’s going to be in here more often, isn’t he? You know, with these upcoming elections.

You love it
Only Trump himself could top it

No, I don’t love it.

I find diddly-squat pretty obnoxious. So did Ros.

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Date: 20/10/2026 16:21:54
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2440701
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Cymek said:

kii said:

He’s going to be in here more often, isn’t he? You know, with these upcoming elections.

You love it
Only Trump himself could top it

No, I don’t love it.

I find diddly-squat pretty obnoxious. So did Ros.


Yeah his constant bullying and hypocritical behaviour should be condemned… Oh wait

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Date: 20/10/2026 17:18:29
From: kii
ID: 2440712
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


kii said:

Cymek said:

You love it
Only Trump himself could top it

No, I don’t love it.

I find diddly-squat pretty obnoxious. So did Ros.


Yeah his constant bullying and hypocritical behaviour should be condemned… Oh wait

Yes, sweetie. Whatever you say.

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Date: 20/10/2026 18:24:58
From: ms spock
ID: 2440726
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

Now this is a concern.

Link

Note the date of the FBI video. Something is dodgy.

I blame the Laundry Mat at the End of the Universe.

It’s a cut throat place.

There was a woman I almost had to tackle as she pushed her way in after I had been waiting an hour.

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Date: 20/10/2026 21:45:21
From: dv
ID: 2440785
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/19/mississippi-attorney-general-kohen-wiley-killing-justified

Mississippi
Mississippi attorney general rules fatal police shooting of one-year-old as ‘justified’
Officers responding to an alleged shoplifting call fired into the vehicle of Vellesiya Wiley, killing her son, Kohen

On Monday, the office of the Mississippi attorney general, Lynn Fitch, announced that the police shooting of Kohen Wiley, a one-year-old, as he sat in his mother’s lap “was justified”. The statement came four months after the baby was killed in Senatobia, Mississippi.

On 14 June, officers in Senatobia, a small city near Memphis, were responding to a shoplifting call alleging Vellesiya Wiley, the baby’s mother, and Latoya Ferrell, a friend, had stolen a pack of diapers. Neither woman has been charged with a crime. Officials have not released any evidence of shoplifting.

According to police reports, on the day of the shooting, the women and child exited the store, entered their vehicle and began to leave the parking lot when officers arrived.

The police drew their weapons. Wiley lifted the baby up to indicate that there was a child in the car. An officer, identified by other records as Sgt Hunter Foster, fired into the vehicle, killing Kohen Wiley and wounding Ferrell. Foster is white; both Wileys and Ferrell are Black.

The Mississippi bureau of investigation, which investigated the shooting, alleged that the driver “drove in the direction of the officers, almost striking one”. But the civil rights attorney Ben Crump, who is representing the family, released an independent autopsy that indicated Wiley was shot from the side of the car, not the front, which contradicted officers’ statements that Ferrell headed towards them.

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Date: 20/10/2026 21:53:24
From: party_pants
ID: 2440787
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/19/mississippi-attorney-general-kohen-wiley-killing-justified

Mississippi
Mississippi attorney general rules fatal police shooting of one-year-old as ‘justified’
Officers responding to an alleged shoplifting call fired into the vehicle of Vellesiya Wiley, killing her son, Kohen

On Monday, the office of the Mississippi attorney general, Lynn Fitch, announced that the police shooting of Kohen Wiley, a one-year-old, as he sat in his mother’s lap “was justified”. The statement came four months after the baby was killed in Senatobia, Mississippi.

On 14 June, officers in Senatobia, a small city near Memphis, were responding to a shoplifting call alleging Vellesiya Wiley, the baby’s mother, and Latoya Ferrell, a friend, had stolen a pack of diapers. Neither woman has been charged with a crime. Officials have not released any evidence of shoplifting.

According to police reports, on the day of the shooting, the women and child exited the store, entered their vehicle and began to leave the parking lot when officers arrived.

The police drew their weapons. Wiley lifted the baby up to indicate that there was a child in the car. An officer, identified by other records as Sgt Hunter Foster, fired into the vehicle, killing Kohen Wiley and wounding Ferrell. Foster is white; both Wileys and Ferrell are Black.

The Mississippi bureau of investigation, which investigated the shooting, alleged that the driver “drove in the direction of the officers, almost striking one”. But the civil rights attorney Ben Crump, who is representing the family, released an independent autopsy that indicated Wiley was shot from the side of the car, not the front, which contradicted officers’ statements that Ferrell headed towards them.

We need to stop pretending that we are part of a common culture with them.

These days I look at them as just foreign people doing foreign things in a foreign land. No longer my problem to gert angry about any more. Not my culture. I have “othered” them.

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Date: 21/10/2026 00:46:03
From: dv
ID: 2440794
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 21/10/2026 00:54:58
From: dv
ID: 2440796
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/19/melting-ron-desantis-statue-climate-crisis

Nice piece of political art but gallium ain’t cheap

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Date: 21/10/2026 09:07:10
From: dv
ID: 2440821
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.threads.com/share/_tOPE-3Yz/
The zoom out

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Date: 21/10/2026 14:17:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2440897
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

https://www.threads.com/share/_tOPE-3Yz/
The zoom out

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Date: 21/10/2026 15:00:23
From: kii
ID: 2440907
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump aggressively tells reporter to be quiet.

Link

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Date: 21/10/2026 15:44:39
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2440914
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Still waiting eight years later.

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Date: 21/10/2026 15:58:21
From: Cymek
ID: 2440921
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Still waiting eight years later.

Flint obviously is in a war torn 3rd world nation with little in the way of resources or infrastrucure.

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:10:37
From: Michael V
ID: 2440926
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Still waiting eight years later.

Is there contamination above those levels?

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:12:53
From: ms spock
ID: 2440928
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

Still waiting eight years later.

Is there contamination above those levels?

Yes, there has been for years.

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:13:19
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2440931
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Spiny Norman said:

Still waiting eight years later.

Flint obviously is in a war torn 3rd world nation with little in the way of resources or infrastrucure.

Can’t argue with that.

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:14:57
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2440933
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

Still waiting eight years later.

Is there contamination above those levels?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUSiLOwkrIw

Yeah it’s a 10 year-old video but I don’t think a lot has changed.

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:17:20
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2440935
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Still waiting eight years later.

Is there contamination above those levels?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUSiLOwkrIw

Yeah it’s a 10 year-old video but I don’t think a lot has changed.

I sit partially corrected. It’s a bit better now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:22:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2440940
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Still waiting eight years later.

Is there contamination above those levels?

Yes, there has been for years.

So Musk’s promises are worthless?

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:24:39
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2440942
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

Michael V said:

Is there contamination above those levels?

Yes, there has been for years.

So Musk’s promises are worthless?

As worthless as his mate Trump’s. At one point Musk promised to end world hunger.

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:33:42
From: furious
ID: 2440951
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

ms spock said:

Yes, there has been for years.

So Musk’s promises are worthless?

As worthless as his mate Trump’s. At one point Musk promised to end world hunger.

There’s more than one way to solve a problem. Water contamination higher than FDA levels? Easy. Get your mates to change the target. Solve world hunger? Get rid of USAID and just wait for the starving to starve. Problem solved…

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:36:37
From: Michael V
ID: 2440956
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Spiny Norman said:

Michael V said:

Is there contamination above those levels?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUSiLOwkrIw

Yeah it’s a 10 year-old video but I don’t think a lot has changed.

I sit partially corrected. It’s a bit better now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis

What I read there is “ (2018) October 5 – Elon Musk donates approximately $480,000 to the Flint school system to pay for UV filtration devices in all 12 schools; installation is expected to be completed by January 2019.”

UV filtration would sterilise the water, killing the Legionella bacteria.

Seems like a good thing to do, IMHO. Especially as the problem was not of his doing.

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:38:19
From: ms spock
ID: 2440960
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Spiny Norman said:

Michael V said:

Is there contamination above those levels?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUSiLOwkrIw

Yeah it’s a 10 year-old video but I don’t think a lot has changed.

I sit partially corrected. It’s a bit better now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis

I also sit partially corrected.

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:39:25
From: Michael V
ID: 2440961
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


ms spock said:

Michael V said:

Is there contamination above those levels?

Yes, there has been for years.

So Musk’s promises are worthless?

No, it appears not. He donated nearly half a mil to provide water filtration units for Flint’s schools.

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:43:37
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2440964
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Spiny Norman said:

Spiny Norman said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUSiLOwkrIw

Yeah it’s a 10 year-old video but I don’t think a lot has changed.

I sit partially corrected. It’s a bit better now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis

What I read there is “ (2018) October 5 – Elon Musk donates approximately $480,000 to the Flint school system to pay for UV filtration devices in all 12 schools; installation is expected to be completed by January 2019.”

UV filtration would sterilise the water, killing the Legionella bacteria.

Seems like a good thing to do, IMHO. Especially as the problem was not of his doing.

One of the rare positive things he’s done.

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:50:10
From: Michael V
ID: 2440968
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

I sit partially corrected. It’s a bit better now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis

What I read there is “ (2018) October 5 – Elon Musk donates approximately $480,000 to the Flint school system to pay for UV filtration devices in all 12 schools; installation is expected to be completed by January 2019.”

UV filtration would sterilise the water, killing the Legionella bacteria.

Seems like a good thing to do, IMHO. Especially as the problem was not of his doing.

One of the rare positive things he’s done.

:)

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Date: 21/10/2026 16:54:09
From: ms spock
ID: 2440972
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

ms spock said:

Yes, there has been for years.

So Musk’s promises are worthless?

As worthless as his mate Trump’s. At one point Musk promised to end world hunger.

Yes if someone costed it for him. Someone did and he didn’t do it.

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Date: 21/10/2026 19:06:02
From: dv
ID: 2441037
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Hey I heard DJT made a Shakespeare reference at a rally, I guess he’s more cultured than I thought.

(Checks)

Oh.

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Date: 21/10/2026 19:07:29
From: Neophyte
ID: 2441040
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Hey I heard DJT made a Shakespeare reference at a rally, I guess he’s more cultured than I thought.

(Checks)

Oh.

“Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it infamy”…?

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Date: 21/10/2026 19:09:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 2441041
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Hey I heard DJT made a Shakespeare reference at a rally, I guess he’s more cultured than I thought.

(Checks)

Oh.

Did Shakespeare coin the phrase “Fake News”?

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Date: 21/10/2026 19:15:41
From: Neophyte
ID: 2441044
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Hey I heard DJT made a Shakespeare reference at a rally, I guess he’s more cultured than I thought.

(Checks)

Oh.

Did Shakespeare coin the phrase “Fake News”?

“I have sold all my Trumpery: not a counterfeit Stone, not a Ribbon, Glass, Pomander, Brouch to keep my Pack from fasting”

Shakespeare, Winter’s Tale IV.4.598

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Date: 21/10/2026 19:17:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 2441046
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

Hey I heard DJT made a Shakespeare reference at a rally, I guess he’s more cultured than I thought.

(Checks)

Oh.

Did Shakespeare coin the phrase “Fake News”?

“I have sold all my Trumpery: not a counterfeit Stone, not a Ribbon, Glass, Pomander, Brouch to keep my Pack from fasting”

Shakespeare, Winter’s Tale IV.4.598

I see. Trumpery eh.

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Date: 21/10/2026 19:45:55
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2441055
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Hey I heard DJT made a Shakespeare reference at a rally, I guess he’s more cultured than I thought.

(Checks)

Oh.

Infinite monkeys with typewriters, etc.

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Date: 21/10/2026 20:10:11
From: Michael V
ID: 2441062
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Funny ad spoof about Trump

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RqLa1U3IW2c

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Date: 21/10/2026 20:16:32
From: ruby
ID: 2441066
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Funny ad spoof about Trump

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RqLa1U3IW2c

:)))

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Date: 21/10/2026 20:19:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2441067
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Funny ad spoof about Trump

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RqLa1U3IW2c

If only.

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Date: 21/10/2026 21:27:53
From: ms spock
ID: 2441079
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


Funny ad spoof about Trump

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RqLa1U3IW2c

Can we send a package to him?

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Date: 21/10/2026 23:26:42
From: dv
ID: 2441100
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witkoff to Putin: ‘You are a humanitarian … I salute that’
Donald Trump’s envoy praises Russian leader in visit to St. Petersburg.

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-special-envoy-witkoff-to-putin-you-are-a-humanitarian-i-salute-that/

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Date: 21/10/2026 23:44:32
From: Kingy
ID: 2441102
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Witkoff to Putin: ‘You are a humanitarian … I salute that’
Donald Trump’s envoy praises Russian leader in visit to St. Petersburg.

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-special-envoy-witkoff-to-putin-you-are-a-humanitarian-i-salute-that/

And do you need better targeting advice to kill more civilians? I know a guy that could help.

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Date: 21/10/2026 23:46:42
From: kii
ID: 2441103
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

It’s true. So many Seppos don’t know that NM is a US state.

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Date: 22/10/2026 03:49:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2441110
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Kingy said:

dv said:

Witkoff to Putin: ‘You are a humanitarian … I salute that’
Donald Trump’s envoy praises Russian leader in visit to St. Petersburg.

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-special-envoy-witkoff-to-putin-you-are-a-humanitarian-i-salute-that/

And do you need better targeting advice to kill more civilians? I know a guy that could help.

oh we thought it was meant to be a variation on that vegetarian joke

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Date: 22/10/2026 09:48:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2441155
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Kingy said:

dv said:

Witkoff to Putin: ‘You are a humanitarian … I salute that’
Donald Trump’s envoy praises Russian leader in visit to St. Petersburg.

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-special-envoy-witkoff-to-putin-you-are-a-humanitarian-i-salute-that/

And do you need better targeting advice to kill more civilians? I know a guy that could help.

oh we thought it was meant to be a variation on that vegetarian joke

you

see

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Date: 22/10/2026 12:41:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2441208
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

so we guess this is going well

Non-essential US embassy staff and their families have been ordered to leave Saudi Arabia amid deadly strikes by Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis. Diplomatic sources say that US missions in other Gulf states will also be ordering family members to leave.

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Date: 22/10/2026 12:48:01
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2441215
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

so we guess this is going well

Non-essential US embassy staff and their families have been ordered to leave Saudi Arabia amid deadly strikes by Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis. Diplomatic sources say that US missions in other Gulf states will also be ordering family members to leave.

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

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Date: 22/10/2026 12:51:43
From: Cymek
ID: 2441218
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

so we guess this is going well

Non-essential US embassy staff and their families have been ordered to leave Saudi Arabia amid deadly strikes by Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis. Diplomatic sources say that US missions in other Gulf states will also be ordering family members to leave.

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

DOJ was considered essential during Covid and we still went to work
That was weird with everything shut, the streets quiet and trains empty
For some reason tumbleweeds rolled through the streets

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Date: 22/10/2026 12:52:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2441220
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

so we guess this is going well

Non-essential US embassy staff and their families have been ordered to leave Saudi Arabia amid deadly strikes by Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis. Diplomatic sources say that US missions in other Gulf states will also be ordering family members to leave.

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

The tea ladies are last to leave because they are absolutely essential.

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Date: 22/10/2026 12:55:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2441222
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

so we guess this is going well

Non-essential US embassy staff and their families have been ordered to leave Saudi Arabia amid deadly strikes by Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis. Diplomatic sources say that US missions in other Gulf states will also be ordering family members to leave.

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

DOJ was considered essential during Covid and we still went to work
That was weird with everything shut, the streets quiet and trains empty
For some reason tumbleweeds rolled through the streets

Yeah, i was obliged to attend work during the lock-down.

In some ways, it was rather…pleasant.

Lots less traffic, more parking spaces, fewer phone calls from people who couldn’t think of anything else to do, no ‘meetings’ (huzzah!), stuff like that.

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Date: 22/10/2026 13:04:00
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2441228
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

so we guess this is going well

Non-essential US embassy staff and their families have been ordered to leave Saudi Arabia amid deadly strikes by Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis. Diplomatic sources say that US missions in other Gulf states will also be ordering family members to leave.

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

Non-essential staff are people whose core roles do not serve a direct national security, emergency response or high-priority diplomatic function.

That is essentially anyone who is not CIA, is not required to help citizens stuck in an emergency, or is not a member of the ambassador’s direct staff.

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Date: 22/10/2026 13:06:08
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2441232
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

so we guess this is going well

Non-essential US embassy staff and their families have been ordered to leave Saudi Arabia amid deadly strikes by Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis. Diplomatic sources say that US missions in other Gulf states will also be ordering family members to leave.

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

Non-essential staff are people whose core roles do not serve a direct national security, emergency response or high-priority diplomatic function.

That is essentially anyone who is not CIA, is not required to help citizens stuck in an emergency, or is not a member of the ambassador’s direct staff.

Also embassy security staff

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Date: 22/10/2026 13:06:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2441233
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

so we guess this is going well

Non-essential US embassy staff and their families have been ordered to leave Saudi Arabia amid deadly strikes by Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis. Diplomatic sources say that US missions in other Gulf states will also be ordering family members to leave.

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

Non-essential staff are people whose core roles do not serve a direct national security, emergency response or high-priority diplomatic function.

That is essentially anyone who is not CIA, is not required to help citizens stuck in an emergency, or is not a member of the ambassador’s direct staff.

OK, that’s what they don’t do.

We’re still none the wiser as to how they actually do fill in their days.

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Date: 22/10/2026 13:10:18
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2441235
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

Non-essential staff are people whose core roles do not serve a direct national security, emergency response or high-priority diplomatic function.

That is essentially anyone who is not CIA, is not required to help citizens stuck in an emergency, or is not a member of the ambassador’s direct staff.

OK, that’s what they don’t do.

We’re still none the wiser as to how they actually do fill in their days.

process visas, trade lobbyists, admin, cultural programs, other in-country specialists/analysis, facilities, etc…

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Date: 22/10/2026 13:12:11
From: Cymek
ID: 2441236
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

so we guess this is going well

Non-essential US embassy staff and their families have been ordered to leave Saudi Arabia amid deadly strikes by Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis. Diplomatic sources say that US missions in other Gulf states will also be ordering family members to leave.

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

Non-essential staff are people whose core roles do not serve a direct national security, emergency response or high-priority diplomatic function.

That is essentially anyone who is not CIA, is not required to help citizens stuck in an emergency, or is not a member of the ambassador’s direct staff.

The CIA never stop, always an elected leader to get rid of and replace with a dictator favourable to the USA.

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Date: 22/10/2026 13:13:03
From: kii
ID: 2441237
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

Non-essential staff are people whose core roles do not serve a direct national security, emergency response or high-priority diplomatic function.

That is essentially anyone who is not CIA, is not required to help citizens stuck in an emergency, or is not a member of the ambassador’s direct staff.

OK, that’s what they don’t do.

We’re still none the wiser as to how they actually do fill in their days.

Clean, cook, laundry.

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Date: 22/10/2026 13:14:01
From: dv
ID: 2441240
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Probably posted this before but there you go

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Date: 22/10/2026 13:14:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2441241
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

Non-essential staff are people whose core roles do not serve a direct national security, emergency response or high-priority diplomatic function.

That is essentially anyone who is not CIA, is not required to help citizens stuck in an emergency, or is not a member of the ambassador’s direct staff.

OK, that’s what they don’t do.

We’re still none the wiser as to how they actually do fill in their days.

process visas, trade lobbyists, admin, cultural programs, other in-country specialists/analysis, facilities, etc…

Yeah, i suppose there’ll be those sort of things going on.

Someone has to put the cheese and pineapple on the toothpicks for the diplomatic receptions, after all.

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Date: 22/10/2026 13:15:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2441243
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

Non-essential staff are people whose core roles do not serve a direct national security, emergency response or high-priority diplomatic function.

That is essentially anyone who is not CIA, is not required to help citizens stuck in an emergency, or is not a member of the ambassador’s direct staff.

OK, that’s what they don’t do.

We’re still none the wiser as to how they actually do fill in their days.

Clean, cook, laundry.

Well, then, the ‘essential’ people will be up shit creek soon, wallowing in their own filth in soiled clothes, munching on raw provisions.

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Date: 22/10/2026 13:17:49
From: Cymek
ID: 2441244
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

captain_spalding said:

OK, that’s what they don’t do.

We’re still none the wiser as to how they actually do fill in their days.

Clean, cook, laundry.

Well, then, the ‘essential’ people will be up shit creek soon, wallowing in their own filth in soiled clothes, munching on raw provisions.

Forget English and grammar as well

Talk like survivors from an apocalpse

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Date: 22/10/2026 13:47:03
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2441257
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Probably posted this before but there you go

Leftists hate Leftists?

I didn’t know that.

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Date: 22/10/2026 13:59:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2441262
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Probably posted this before but there you go

Leftists hate Leftists?

I didn’t know that.

Just remember Josef Stalin: no-one killed more Communists than that Communist.

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Date: 22/10/2026 14:00:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2441263
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Probably posted this before but there you go

Leftists hate Leftists?

I didn’t know that.

rightists only hate people who don’t hate themselves

wait

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Date: 22/10/2026 14:29:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2441266
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

so we guess this is going well

Non-essential US embassy staff and their families have been ordered to leave Saudi Arabia amid deadly strikes by Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis. Diplomatic sources say that US missions in other Gulf states will also be ordering family members to leave.

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

People like “Cultural Attache”, “Trade Attache”, etc. Useful to diplomatically push various cases, but certainly not essential.

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Date: 22/10/2026 14:47:36
From: Cymek
ID: 2441272
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

so we guess this is going well

Non-essential US embassy staff and their families have been ordered to leave Saudi Arabia amid deadly strikes by Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis. Diplomatic sources say that US missions in other Gulf states will also be ordering family members to leave.

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

People like “Cultural Attache”, “Trade Attache”, etc. Useful to diplomatically push various cases, but certainly not essential.

I’d assume evacuation plays out like the fall of Saigon with everyone told to get to the choppa

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Date: 22/10/2026 14:58:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2441274
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

A question that pops into my mind when a country evacuates ‘non-essential staff’ from their embassy is: if they’re not essential, then WTF are they doing there?

Are they ‘spares’ in case one of the ‘essential’ staff break down somehow? Are they just on a boondoggle, having a live-in-a-foreign-land experience at taxpayer expense?

How do diplomatic corps get to have ‘non-essential’ staff? Try wangling that with any other public service dept., and see how far you get.

Non-essential staff are people whose core roles do not serve a direct national security, emergency response or high-priority diplomatic function.

That is essentially anyone who is not CIA, is not required to help citizens stuck in an emergency, or is not a member of the ambassador’s direct staff.

OK, that’s what they don’t do.

We’re still none the wiser as to how they actually do fill in their days.

earn money in a cushy position they scored by sharing allele distributions with politicians back home

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Date: 22/10/2026 15:49:37
From: Michael V
ID: 2441291
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Probably posted this before but there you go

Leftists hate Leftists?

I didn’t know that.

Huh. I hadn’t seen that.

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Date: 22/10/2026 20:15:15
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2441353
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

A little over a week to go until election day, and the Dems are maintaining their lead in the generic ballot. If results play out, the way polling suggests, then Dems should pick up both the House and the Senate. That said, it would take a pretty monumental shift for the Dems to lose the House at this stage, but the Senate is still in play in a few key races.

The gubernatorial rates are also super interesting and while it’s unlikely that Abbott will lose Texas, he’s certainly been given a shake.

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Date: 22/10/2026 23:03:27
From: Neophyte
ID: 2441387
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

“‘WTF Was That’: Trump Made A ‘Weird Noise’ And Critics Are Truly Baffled”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-weird-noise_n_6ad9ae72e4b0ba084e14b9b6?origin=home-latest-news-unit

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Date: 22/10/2026 23:12:31
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2441391
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Neophyte said:


“‘WTF Was That’: Trump Made A ‘Weird Noise’ And Critics Are Truly Baffled”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-weird-noise_n_6ad9ae72e4b0ba084e14b9b6?origin=home-latest-news-unit

Yep that’s weird.

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Date: 22/10/2026 23:53:38
From: dv
ID: 2441393
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 23/10/2026 00:45:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2441401
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

what about their allegories

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Date: 24/10/2026 09:52:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 2441907
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump to power – in Texas, the tide may be turning.
Gary O’Donoghue
Chief North America correspondent, in the Rio Grande Valley
It was just before dawn in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas and the congregation were arriving for the Friday service at the tiny La Lomita Catholic Chapel.
The whitewashed building, which has been here since the days of the American Civil War, rises from the surrounding scrub and sits about 200 yards from the Rio Grande river itself.
As cars pulled up to the chapel, the sound of Father Roy Snipes’ barking dogs signalled his arrival. He has been the priest here for almost half a century – and is known locally as the Cowboy Priest.
“I’m not sure why I picked that up, but it’s nice,” he said of the nickname.
In truth, it is pretty obvious why. Snipes wears a Stetson in place of the more traditional priest’s hat. And moments later, the chapel was filled by the sound of a Roy Rogers song – the singer and actor known as the King of the Cowboys.
During the first Trump administration, Snipes resisted plans to seize the chapel’s land to build the US president’s border wall. Eight years on, at the early Friday service, he focused his short sermon on the actions of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
“There’s no good excuse to detain, incarcerate and deport poor, good folks who are our neighbours,” Snipes told the congregation of about 30, mainly Hispanic worshippers.
Texas accounted for roughly one-third of all ICE arrests nationwide in July 2026 – a larger share than any other state – according to government figures obtained by the Deportation Data Project.
“They said we’re gonna seek out, capture, detain and deport the worst of the worst,” Snipes said in his sermon. “Well, we’re here on the border and the cartel is the worst-of-the-worst. So we thought, well, that’s a good thing.
“But it turned out, you can hear almost every day, some poor guy going to work and they stop him and detain him and start a big fight.”
After the service, two members of the congregation stopped to chat. “We’re educators, and we have a lot of students that are having to go back because their parents are getting deported,” one said.
“The cruelty that we’re seeing – I think that’s turning the tide, at least I hope so,” their friend added.
Turning the tide politically is what Democrats are hoping they can do in Texas in the midterm elections on 3 November. But that will not be easy.
This stretch of the Rio Grande was once one of the busiest crossing points on the US-Mexico border. Under former President Joe Biden, hundreds of thousands of migrants came through here, with more than two and a half million apprehensions recorded in a single year.
Trump promised to stop these illegal crossings during his 2024 election campaign, and in large parts he has delivered.
Border crossings are now at their lowest level in decades. And it was that promise which in part drove Trump’s astonishingly high level of support in the state, taking around 55% of Hispanic votes in Texas alone – a record for a Republican presidential candidate.
Javier Villalobos is the Republican Mayor of McAllen, one of the biggest cities in the Rio Grande Valley. He expects Republicans will find it tough this time around, but credits the Trump administration with stemming the border problem.
“I remember I put out a video… thanking the administration for immediately securing the border. That was great,” he said. “And I think generally most people are okay with the deportation of criminals, violent people, or people that really are not productive at all.”
But if you start deporting people that are productive and law-abiding, that is where the problem is, he added.
Recent polls suggest much of Trump’s support among Hispanic voters has ebbed away since 2024. Surveys taken since late summer indicate a majority of Texan Hispanic voters disapprove of the president. They also suggest Hispanic voters are favouring Democrats over Republicans by a significant margin.
“When I voted for President Trump, I voted for him because we saw an influx of immigration during the Biden administration,” said Mario Guerrero, a young Mexican-American businessman who leads the South Texas Builders Association. It needed to be fixed, he said.
“We thought that we were in the right by voting for Trump, and that he was going to do what was best in order to fix the crisis on the border.
“And I think to myself, we were really not told the extreme that they were willing to go to make a point,” he added, before referencing recent shootings involving ICE agents in US cities.

there’s more to this here

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Date: 24/10/2026 15:08:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 2441971
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Elon Musk has a lot to lose at US midterms as pollsters tip blue wave

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Date: 24/10/2026 15:39:00
From: dv
ID: 2441974
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Not satire

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Date: 24/10/2026 15:41:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2441975
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Not satire

‘…discrete…’?

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Date: 24/10/2026 16:22:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2441979
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Not satire

‘…discrete…’?

not continuous

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Date: 24/10/2026 16:35:42
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2441983
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Not satire

I’m sure Cuban immigrants are lining up to provide their details to the government.

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Date: 24/10/2026 17:19:29
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2441992
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Not satire

‘…discrete…’?

not continuous

Yeah, i know.

Looks like whoever runs Marco ‘Big Shoes’ Rubio’s Twitter account doesn’t.

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Date: 25/10/2026 01:08:00
From: kii
ID: 2442063
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

90% of the reason I took the governor…erp.

😆 🤣 😂 😹 the cat bopping along 😆 🤣 😂 😹

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Date: 25/10/2026 07:32:35
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2442075
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2


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Date: 25/10/2026 07:44:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2442076
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:



aota

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Date: 25/10/2026 08:53:35
From: ms spock
ID: 2442088
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:




Indeed

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Date: 25/10/2026 09:43:34
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2442110
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I have no idea if that is true.

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Date: 25/10/2026 09:46:42
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2442113
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The Rev Dodgson said:


I have no idea if that is true.

Seems that it is

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Date: 25/10/2026 10:46:42
From: Michael V
ID: 2442128
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:




!!!

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Date: 25/10/2026 12:25:21
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2442154
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 25/10/2026 12:33:24
From: party_pants
ID: 2442155
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:



ha

:)

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Date: 25/10/2026 15:59:39
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2442224
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 25/10/2026 19:26:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2442298
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Mostly quiet on the US front, meanwhile progressive Europe is burning.

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Date: 26/10/2026 01:31:36
From: dv
ID: 2442370
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 26/10/2026 09:43:32
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2442404
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Super interesting interview from Alastair and Rory on The Rest Is Politics (Leading) with Mary Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb_suLhlK3k

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:10:23
From: buffy
ID: 2442469
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:

Super interesting interview from Alastair and Rory on The Rest Is Politics (Leading) with Mary Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb_suLhlK3k

Thanks for this. It is indeed very interesting.

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:21:27
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2442476
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

This just in from the world of science:

WW2 FRAUD! SIR ROBERT WATSON-WATT A LIAR!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Vi0s2iVWI

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:23:25
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2442478
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


This just in from the world of science:

WW2 FRAUD! SIR ROBERT WATSON-WATT A LIAR!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Vi0s2iVWI

FWIW there were about half a dozen countries that were working on radar gear independently before WW2.

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:42:34
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2442483
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

This just in from the world of science:

WW2 FRAUD! SIR ROBERT WATSON-WATT A LIAR!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Vi0s2iVWI

FWIW there were about half a dozen countries that were working on radar gear independently before WW2.


.
And Preznit Shitpants’ uncle helped set up American research into developing and improving radar, including development of microwave radar.

He had nothing to do with radar until the National Defence Research Committee was established in June 1940, where he helped establish the Radiation Laboratory in October 1940.

By which time, the first effective radar defence system in the world had been in operation since 1937.

Trump’s uncle John was obviously a good scientist, but he had bugger all to do with ‘inventing’ radar.

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:44:23
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2442484
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

This just in from the world of science:

WW2 FRAUD! SIR ROBERT WATSON-WATT A LIAR!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Vi0s2iVWI

FWIW there were about half a dozen countries that were working on radar gear independently before WW2.


.
And Preznit Shitpants’ uncle helped set up American research into developing and improving radar, including development of microwave radar.

He had nothing to do with radar until the National Defence Research Committee was established in June 1940, where he helped establish the Radiation Laboratory in October 1940.

By which time, the first effective radar defence system in the world had been in operation since 1937.

Trump’s uncle John was obviously a good scientist, but he had bugger all to do with ‘inventing’ radar.

Imagine my surprise.

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:47:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2442485
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

FWIW there were about half a dozen countries that were working on radar gear independently before WW2.


.
And Preznit Shitpants’ uncle helped set up American research into developing and improving radar, including development of microwave radar.

He had nothing to do with radar until the National Defence Research Committee was established in June 1940, where he helped establish the Radiation Laboratory in October 1940.

By which time, the first effective radar defence system in the world had been in operation since 1937.

Trump’s uncle John was obviously a good scientist, but he had bugger all to do with ‘inventing’ radar.

Imagine my surprise.

An assistant director of the Lab, he did a lot of good work in charge of Division 12, the Field Service div, and went to the UK and helped with some tasks e.g. interception of V-1 flying bombs.

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:51:15
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2442486
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

.
And Preznit Shitpants’ uncle helped set up American research into developing and improving radar, including development of microwave radar.

He had nothing to do with radar until the National Defence Research Committee was established in June 1940, where he helped establish the Radiation Laboratory in October 1940.

By which time, the first effective radar defence system in the world had been in operation since 1937.

Trump’s uncle John was obviously a good scientist, but he had bugger all to do with ‘inventing’ radar.

Imagine my surprise.

An assistant director of the Lab, he did a lot of good work in charge of Division 12, the Field Service div, and went to the UK and helped with some tasks e.g. interception of V-1 flying bombs.

Like no-one’s ever seen before, no doubt.

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:52:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2442487
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Imagine my surprise.

An assistant director of the Lab, he did a lot of good work in charge of Division 12, the Field Service div, and went to the UK and helped with some tasks e.g. interception of V-1 flying bombs.

Like no-one’s ever seen before, no doubt.

More than anyone.

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:54:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2442488
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

This just in from the world of science:

WW2 FRAUD! SIR ROBERT WATSON-WATT A LIAR!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Vi0s2iVWI

FWIW there were about half a dozen countries that were working on radar gear independently before WW2.


.
And Preznit Shitpants’ uncle helped set up American research into developing and improving radar, including development of microwave radar.

He had nothing to do with radar until the National Defence Research Committee was established in June 1940, where he helped establish the Radiation Laboratory in October 1940.

By which time, the first effective radar defence system in the world had been in operation since 1937.

Trump’s uncle John was obviously a good scientist, but he had bugger all to do with ‘inventing’ radar.

The Tizard Mission (1940)

In August and September 1940, a British scientific delegation led by Sir Henry Tizard traveled to Washington, D.C. carrying a small metal box filled with blueprints, diagrams, and working prototypes of Britain’s most critical technological innovations. Prime Minister Winston Churchill authorized the transfer to leverage American manufacturing capacity and self-defense production.
• Cavity Magnetron: A revolutionary high-power microwave radar component that allowed for miniaturized, airborne radar systems; read the Tizard Mission Guide on Wikipedia.
• Atomic Research: Feasibility reports and early memoranda on the potential of an atomic bomb (including Frisch-Peierls and MAUD Committee data); learn more at Boundary Stones.
• Jet Engine: Detailed design and engineering data for Frank Whittle’s early turbojet engine.
• Variable-Time (VT) Fuses: Proximity fuses designed to detonate anti-aircraft shells close to a target without a direct hit.
• Other Innovations: Gyroscopic gunsights, rocket designs, and submarine detection devices; read the New York Post Article for additional details.

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:54:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2442489
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

weird how americese have such an obsession with uncles, kkk, rfkjr, it’s almost freudian

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Date: 26/10/2026 13:03:14
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2442491
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

FWIW there were about half a dozen countries that were working on radar gear independently before WW2.


.
And Preznit Shitpants’ uncle helped set up American research into developing and improving radar, including development of microwave radar.

He had nothing to do with radar until the National Defence Research Committee was established in June 1940, where he helped establish the Radiation Laboratory in October 1940.

By which time, the first effective radar defence system in the world had been in operation since 1937.

Trump’s uncle John was obviously a good scientist, but he had bugger all to do with ‘inventing’ radar.

The Tizard Mission (1940)

In August and September 1940, a British scientific delegation led by Sir Henry Tizard traveled to Washington, D.C. carrying a small metal box filled with blueprints, diagrams, and working prototypes of Britain’s most critical technological innovations. Prime Minister Winston Churchill authorized the transfer to leverage American manufacturing capacity and self-defense production.
• Cavity Magnetron: A revolutionary high-power microwave radar component that allowed for miniaturized, airborne radar systems; read the Tizard Mission Guide on Wikipedia.
• Atomic Research: Feasibility reports and early memoranda on the potential of an atomic bomb (including Frisch-Peierls and MAUD Committee data); learn more at Boundary Stones.
• Jet Engine: Detailed design and engineering data for Frank Whittle’s early turbojet engine.
• Variable-Time (VT) Fuses: Proximity fuses designed to detonate anti-aircraft shells close to a target without a direct hit.
• Other Innovations: Gyroscopic gunsights, rocket designs, and submarine detection devices; read the New York Post Article for additional details.

One of the most important missions in WW2.

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Date: 26/10/2026 13:04:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2442492
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:

• Other Innovations: Gyroscopic gunsights, rocket designs, and submarine detection devices; read the New York Post Article for additional details.

‘…Gyroscopic gunsights…’

I had an acquaintance with the Type 6 MkII gyro gunsight.

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Date: 26/10/2026 13:08:32
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2442493
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

.
And Preznit Shitpants’ uncle helped set up American research into developing and improving radar, including development of microwave radar.

He had nothing to do with radar until the National Defence Research Committee was established in June 1940, where he helped establish the Radiation Laboratory in October 1940.

By which time, the first effective radar defence system in the world had been in operation since 1937.

Trump’s uncle John was obviously a good scientist, but he had bugger all to do with ‘inventing’ radar.

The Tizard Mission (1940)

In August and September 1940, a British scientific delegation led by Sir Henry Tizard traveled to Washington, D.C. carrying a small metal box filled with blueprints, diagrams, and working prototypes of Britain’s most critical technological innovations. Prime Minister Winston Churchill authorized the transfer to leverage American manufacturing capacity and self-defense production.
• Cavity Magnetron: A revolutionary high-power microwave radar component that allowed for miniaturized, airborne radar systems; read the Tizard Mission Guide on Wikipedia.
• Atomic Research: Feasibility reports and early memoranda on the potential of an atomic bomb (including Frisch-Peierls and MAUD Committee data); learn more at Boundary Stones.
• Jet Engine: Detailed design and engineering data for Frank Whittle’s early turbojet engine.
• Variable-Time (VT) Fuses: Proximity fuses designed to detonate anti-aircraft shells close to a target without a direct hit.
• Other Innovations: Gyroscopic gunsights, rocket designs, and submarine detection devices; read the New York Post Article for additional details.

One of the most important missions in WW2.

Produced fabulous results, but i think that they lagged on the jet engine development. Possibly due to the involvement of Westinghouse, who went on to make a name for themselves in producing jet engines that were disappointing.

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Date: 26/10/2026 13:18:12
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2442494
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

.
And Preznit Shitpants’ uncle helped set up American research into developing and improving radar, including development of microwave radar.

He had nothing to do with radar until the National Defence Research Committee was established in June 1940, where he helped establish the Radiation Laboratory in October 1940.

By which time, the first effective radar defence system in the world had been in operation since 1937.

Trump’s uncle John was obviously a good scientist, but he had bugger all to do with ‘inventing’ radar.

The Tizard Mission (1940)

In August and September 1940, a British scientific delegation led by Sir Henry Tizard traveled to Washington, D.C. carrying a small metal box filled with blueprints, diagrams, and working prototypes of Britain’s most critical technological innovations. Prime Minister Winston Churchill authorized the transfer to leverage American manufacturing capacity and self-defense production.
• Cavity Magnetron: A revolutionary high-power microwave radar component that allowed for miniaturized, airborne radar systems; read the Tizard Mission Guide on Wikipedia.
• Atomic Research: Feasibility reports and early memoranda on the potential of an atomic bomb (including Frisch-Peierls and MAUD Committee data); learn more at Boundary Stones.
• Jet Engine: Detailed design and engineering data for Frank Whittle’s early turbojet engine.
• Variable-Time (VT) Fuses: Proximity fuses designed to detonate anti-aircraft shells close to a target without a direct hit.
• Other Innovations: Gyroscopic gunsights, rocket designs, and submarine detection devices; read the New York Post Article for additional details.

One of the most important missions in WW2.

For more on the Tizard Mission read A Man Called Intrepid, an excellent read.

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Date: 26/10/2026 17:38:59
From: dv
ID: 2442608
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Meanwhile

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Date: 26/10/2026 17:43:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2442615
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Meanwhile


You do have to admire the spirit of enterprise embodied in the phrase ‘ice fishing prostitution’

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Date: 26/10/2026 17:51:33
From: Cymek
ID: 2442619
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

Meanwhile


You do have to admire the spirit of enterprise embodied in the phrase ‘ice fishing prostitution’

Shouldn’t be sticking anything connected to you in an ice fishing hole

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Date: 26/10/2026 17:56:57
From: Michael V
ID: 2442621
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Meanwhile


If you call meanwhile four and a half years ago.

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Date: 26/10/2026 19:13:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2442662
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Meanwhile


You do have to admire the spirit of enterprise embodied in the phrase ‘ice fishing prostitution’

Shouldn’t be sticking anything connected to you in an ice fishing hole

is it more like catfishing but with crystal methamphetamine

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Date: 27/10/2026 01:17:36
From: kii
ID: 2442733
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Good.

“Venues Start Canceling on Vivek Ramaswamy Over His Disgusting Ad: ‘People Don’t Want Him There’”

Businesses have begun pulling out of Vivek Ramaswamy’s bus tour with other GOP candidates. ‘It’s that damn ad,’ a top Ohio Republican tells Zeteo.

Link

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Date: 27/10/2026 01:35:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2442734
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Good.

“Venues Start Canceling on Vivek Ramaswamy Over His Disgusting Ad: ‘People Don’t Want Him There’”

Businesses have begun pulling out of Vivek Ramaswamy’s bus tour with other GOP candidates. ‘It’s that damn ad,’ a top Ohio Republican tells Zeteo.

Link

Good for the Americans, and good for us.

If such strategies are thought to be effective, it wouldn’t be long before they’re widely adopted here.

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Date: 27/10/2026 06:38:47
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2442738
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The DOJ’s new legal position: Presidents can sell state secrets on eBay

The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals heard oral arguments last week in our fight to stop the Trump administration from privatizing presidential papers. The battle stems from a Justice Department memo declaring that the Presidential Records Act is unconstitutional and that White House files are now the president’s personal property — not the public’s.

FPF and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sued over this attempt to hide the most consequential records in government — and in May, we won an emergency preliminary injunction requiring the White House to follow the law.

Politico notes that the appeals panel hearing our case had deep reservations about the government’s arguments, with Judge Patricia Millett asking: “Can the president then offer on eBay to sell them, all of our national security secrets, to the highest bidder?”

The government’s response was, in short, “yes.”

https://freedom.press/the-classifieds/doj-says-presidents-should-be-able-to-sell-secrets-on-ebay/

There’s a lot to unpack here, but let’s start with the Trump Administration flagrantly disregarding Constitutional Law until there’s something they disagree with.

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Date: 27/10/2026 07:22:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2442749
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


The DOJ’s new legal position: Presidents can sell state secrets on eBay

The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals heard oral arguments last week in our fight to stop the Trump administration from privatizing presidential papers. The battle stems from a Justice Department memo declaring that the Presidential Records Act is unconstitutional and that White House files are now the president’s personal property — not the public’s.

FPF and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sued over this attempt to hide the most consequential records in government — and in May, we won an emergency preliminary injunction requiring the White House to follow the law.

Politico notes that the appeals panel hearing our case had deep reservations about the government’s arguments, with Judge Patricia Millett asking: “Can the president then offer on eBay to sell them, all of our national security secrets, to the highest bidder?”

The government’s response was, in short, “yes.”

https://freedom.press/the-classifieds/doj-says-presidents-should-be-able-to-sell-secrets-on-ebay/

There’s a lot to unpack here, but let’s start with the Trump Administration flagrantly disregarding Constitutional Law until there’s something they disagree with.

cool cool but then this part

flagrantly disregarding Constitutional Law until there’s something they disagree with

seems self contradictory

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Date: 27/10/2026 07:55:55
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2442752
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Divine Angel said:

The DOJ’s new legal position: Presidents can sell state secrets on eBay

The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals heard oral arguments last week in our fight to stop the Trump administration from privatizing presidential papers. The battle stems from a Justice Department memo declaring that the Presidential Records Act is unconstitutional and that White House files are now the president’s personal property — not the public’s.

FPF and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sued over this attempt to hide the most consequential records in government — and in May, we won an emergency preliminary injunction requiring the White House to follow the law.

Politico notes that the appeals panel hearing our case had deep reservations about the government’s arguments, with Judge Patricia Millett asking: “Can the president then offer on eBay to sell them, all of our national security secrets, to the highest bidder?”

The government’s response was, in short, “yes.”

https://freedom.press/the-classifieds/doj-says-presidents-should-be-able-to-sell-secrets-on-ebay/

There’s a lot to unpack here, but let’s start with the Trump Administration flagrantly disregarding Constitutional Law until there’s something they disagree with.

cool cool but then this part

flagrantly disregarding Constitutional Law until there’s something they disagree with

seems self contradictory

That’s what happens when I comment before waking up properly. They blatantly disregard constitutional law but then get whingy whiny and say “it’s unconstitutional” when they want to do something like privatise Administration documents.

Do they still have someone to sticky tape papers that the orange toddler rips up during tantrums?

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Date: 27/10/2026 08:00:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 2442753
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

The DOJ’s new legal position: Presidents can sell state secrets on eBay

The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals heard oral arguments last week in our fight to stop the Trump administration from privatizing presidential papers. The battle stems from a Justice Department memo declaring that the Presidential Records Act is unconstitutional and that White House files are now the president’s personal property — not the public’s.

FPF and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sued over this attempt to hide the most consequential records in government — and in May, we won an emergency preliminary injunction requiring the White House to follow the law.

Politico notes that the appeals panel hearing our case had deep reservations about the government’s arguments, with Judge Patricia Millett asking: “Can the president then offer on eBay to sell them, all of our national security secrets, to the highest bidder?”

The government’s response was, in short, “yes.”

https://freedom.press/the-classifieds/doj-says-presidents-should-be-able-to-sell-secrets-on-ebay/

There’s a lot to unpack here, but let’s start with the Trump Administration flagrantly disregarding Constitutional Law until there’s something they disagree with.

cool cool but then this part

flagrantly disregarding Constitutional Law until there’s something they disagree with

seems self contradictory

That’s what happens when I comment before waking up properly. They blatantly disregard constitutional law but then get whingy whiny and say “it’s unconstitutional” when they want to do something like privatise Administration documents.

Do they still have someone to sticky tape papers that the orange toddler rips up during tantrums?

Trump sacked them all.

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Date: 27/10/2026 08:07:52
From: Michael V
ID: 2442754
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:


Divine Angel said:

The DOJ’s new legal position: Presidents can sell state secrets on eBay

The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals heard oral arguments last week in our fight to stop the Trump administration from privatizing presidential papers. The battle stems from a Justice Department memo declaring that the Presidential Records Act is unconstitutional and that White House files are now the president’s personal property — not the public’s.

FPF and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sued over this attempt to hide the most consequential records in government — and in May, we won an emergency preliminary injunction requiring the White House to follow the law.

Politico notes that the appeals panel hearing our case had deep reservations about the government’s arguments, with Judge Patricia Millett asking: “Can the president then offer on eBay to sell them, all of our national security secrets, to the highest bidder?”

The government’s response was, in short, “yes.”

https://freedom.press/the-classifieds/doj-says-presidents-should-be-able-to-sell-secrets-on-ebay/

There’s a lot to unpack here, but let’s start with the Trump Administration flagrantly disregarding Constitutional Law until there’s something they disagree with.

cool cool but then this part

flagrantly disregarding Constitutional Law until there’s something they disagree with

seems self contradictory

I thought that that was strange too, but I couldn’t put words on it properly, so I gave up.

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Date: 27/10/2026 09:00:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2442762
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

cool cool but then this part

flagrantly disregarding Constitutional Law until there’s something they disagree with

seems self contradictory

That’s what happens when I comment before waking up properly. They blatantly disregard constitutional law but then get whingy whiny and say “it’s unconstitutional” when they want to do something like privatise Administration documents.

Do they still have someone to sticky tape papers that the orange toddler rips up during tantrums?

Trump sacked them all.

I thought that that was strange too, but I couldn’t put words on it properly, so I gave up.

yeah we read the general gist, we do keep finding it surprising that americese continue to love it but then again the whole world keeps giving them a free pass so 🤷‍♀️

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Date: 27/10/2026 11:19:07
From: ms spock
ID: 2442823
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Forensic psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee explains how Donald Trump displays the same traits as dangerous criminal psychopaths, and recommends his immediate hospitalization to protect humanity from his increasingly desperate and erratic behavior – as the midterms decide his fate – only on The Weekend Show.

Link to her latest interview.

The Republicans could end this today. Shame on them.

Folks probably don’t have the time to watch this. I will post a few of the highlights when the shorts come out.

Dr Bandy X Lee edited The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump The first edition was published in 2017. Dr Bandy X. Lee, is a forensic psychiatrist.

The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump contained essays by 27 psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals describing the “clear and present danger” that US President Donald Trump’s mental health poses to the “nation and individual well being”. A second edition updated and expanded the book with additional essays.

Dr Lee maintains that the book remains strictly a public service, and all royalties were donated to the public good to remove any conflict of interest.

She spoke out long before this. She lost her position at Yale, I think it was, because she believed psychiatrists et.al had a duty to warn.

She does livestreams on YouTube. Often they are twenty minutes, so more bit sized chunks for busy folks. Lately she’s been talking about how to manage violence and different ways to create a more inclusive community.

She cut her teeth working with violent offenders and she created a highly successful programme that wasn’t rolled out across America, I am guessing that the for profit prisons lobbyists may have had something to do with that.

Dr Lee’s website Visit

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Date: 27/10/2026 11:24:29
From: Cymek
ID: 2442827
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Forensic psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee explains how Donald Trump displays the same traits as dangerous criminal psychopaths, and recommends his immediate hospitalization to protect humanity from his increasingly desperate and erratic behavior – as the midterms decide his fate – only on The Weekend Show.

Link to her latest interview.

The Republicans could end this today. Shame on them.

Folks probably don’t have the time to watch this. I will post a few of the highlights when the shorts come out.

Dr Bandy X Lee edited The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump The first edition was published in 2017. Dr Bandy X. Lee, is a forensic psychiatrist.

The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump contained essays by 27 psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals describing the “clear and present danger” that US President Donald Trump’s mental health poses to the “nation and individual well being”. A second edition updated and expanded the book with additional essays.

Dr Lee maintains that the book remains strictly a public service, and all royalties were donated to the public good to remove any conflict of interest.

She spoke out long before this. She lost her position at Yale, I think it was, because she believed psychiatrists et.al had a duty to warn.

She does livestreams on YouTube. Often they are twenty minutes, so more bit sized chunks for busy folks. Lately she’s been talking about how to manage violence and different ways to create a more inclusive community.

She cut her teeth working with violent offenders and she created a highly successful programme that wasn’t rolled out across America, I am guessing that the for profit prisons lobbyists may have had something to do with that.

Dr Lee’s website Visit

One doesn’t need psychiatrists to show he’s dangerous
All US presidents are dangerous but he’s Emperor Palpatine dangerous.

Poe Dameron “Some how Trumpatine has returned”

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Date: 27/10/2026 11:25:36
From: ms spock
ID: 2442829
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Forensic psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee explains how Donald Trump displays the same traits as dangerous criminal psychopaths, and recommends his immediate hospitalization to protect humanity from his increasingly desperate and erratic behavior – as the midterms decide his fate – only on The Weekend Show.

Link to her latest interview.

The Republicans could end this today. Shame on them.

Folks probably don’t have the time to watch this. I will post a few of the highlights when the shorts come out.

Dr Bandy X Lee edited The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump The first edition was published in 2017. Dr Bandy X. Lee, is a forensic psychiatrist.

The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump contained essays by 27 psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals describing the “clear and present danger” that US President Donald Trump’s mental health poses to the “nation and individual well being”. A second edition updated and expanded the book with additional essays.

Dr Lee maintains that the book remains strictly a public service, and all royalties were donated to the public good to remove any conflict of interest.

She spoke out long before this. She lost her position at Yale, I think it was, because she believed psychiatrists et.al had a duty to warn.

She does livestreams on YouTube. Often they are twenty minutes, so more bit sized chunks for busy folks. Lately she’s been talking about how to manage violence and different ways to create a more inclusive community.

She cut her teeth working with violent offenders and she created a highly successful programme that wasn’t rolled out across America, I am guessing that the for profit prisons lobbyists may have had something to do with that.

Dr Lee’s website Visit

One doesn’t need psychiatrists to show he’s dangerous
All US presidents are dangerous but he’s Emperor Palpatine dangerous.

Poe Dameron “Some how Trumpatine has returned”

:)

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Date: 27/10/2026 11:26:43
From: Cymek
ID: 2442831
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


ms spock said:

Forensic psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee explains how Donald Trump displays the same traits as dangerous criminal psychopaths, and recommends his immediate hospitalization to protect humanity from his increasingly desperate and erratic behavior – as the midterms decide his fate – only on The Weekend Show.

Link to her latest interview.

The Republicans could end this today. Shame on them.

Folks probably don’t have the time to watch this. I will post a few of the highlights when the shorts come out.

Dr Bandy X Lee edited The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump The first edition was published in 2017. Dr Bandy X. Lee, is a forensic psychiatrist.

The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump contained essays by 27 psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals describing the “clear and present danger” that US President Donald Trump’s mental health poses to the “nation and individual well being”. A second edition updated and expanded the book with additional essays.

Dr Lee maintains that the book remains strictly a public service, and all royalties were donated to the public good to remove any conflict of interest.

She spoke out long before this. She lost her position at Yale, I think it was, because she believed psychiatrists et.al had a duty to warn.

She does livestreams on YouTube. Often they are twenty minutes, so more bit sized chunks for busy folks. Lately she’s been talking about how to manage violence and different ways to create a more inclusive community.

She cut her teeth working with violent offenders and she created a highly successful programme that wasn’t rolled out across America, I am guessing that the for profit prisons lobbyists may have had something to do with that.

Dr Lee’s website Visit

One doesn’t need psychiatrists to show he’s dangerous
All US presidents are dangerous but he’s Emperor Palpatine dangerous.

Poe Dameron “Some how Trumpatine has returned”

If he wasn’t president you can imagine his rants would attract psychiatric intervention (assuming he had insurance)

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Date: 27/10/2026 11:27:32
From: ms spock
ID: 2442832
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Cymek said:

ms spock said:

Forensic psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee explains how Donald Trump displays the same traits as dangerous criminal psychopaths, and recommends his immediate hospitalization to protect humanity from his increasingly desperate and erratic behavior – as the midterms decide his fate – only on The Weekend Show.

Link to her latest interview.

The Republicans could end this today. Shame on them.

Folks probably don’t have the time to watch this. I will post a few of the highlights when the shorts come out.

Dr Bandy X Lee edited The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump The first edition was published in 2017. Dr Bandy X. Lee, is a forensic psychiatrist.

The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump contained essays by 27 psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals describing the “clear and present danger” that US President Donald Trump’s mental health poses to the “nation and individual well being”. A second edition updated and expanded the book with additional essays.

Dr Lee maintains that the book remains strictly a public service, and all royalties were donated to the public good to remove any conflict of interest.

She spoke out long before this. She lost her position at Yale, I think it was, because she believed psychiatrists et.al had a duty to warn.

She does livestreams on YouTube. Often they are twenty minutes, so more bit sized chunks for busy folks. Lately she’s been talking about how to manage violence and different ways to create a more inclusive community.

She cut her teeth working with violent offenders and she created a highly successful programme that wasn’t rolled out across America, I am guessing that the for profit prisons lobbyists may have had something to do with that.

Dr Lee’s website Visit

One doesn’t need psychiatrists to show he’s dangerous
All US presidents are dangerous but he’s Emperor Palpatine dangerous.

Poe Dameron “Some how Trumpatine has returned”

If he wasn’t president you can imagine his rants would attract psychiatric intervention (assuming he had insurance)

Indeed

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Date: 27/10/2026 11:29:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 2442834
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Cymek said:

ms spock said:

Forensic psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee explains how Donald Trump displays the same traits as dangerous criminal psychopaths, and recommends his immediate hospitalization to protect humanity from his increasingly desperate and erratic behavior – as the midterms decide his fate – only on The Weekend Show.

Link to her latest interview.

The Republicans could end this today. Shame on them.

Folks probably don’t have the time to watch this. I will post a few of the highlights when the shorts come out.

Dr Bandy X Lee edited The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump The first edition was published in 2017. Dr Bandy X. Lee, is a forensic psychiatrist.

The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump contained essays by 27 psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals describing the “clear and present danger” that US President Donald Trump’s mental health poses to the “nation and individual well being”. A second edition updated and expanded the book with additional essays.

Dr Lee maintains that the book remains strictly a public service, and all royalties were donated to the public good to remove any conflict of interest.

She spoke out long before this. She lost her position at Yale, I think it was, because she believed psychiatrists et.al had a duty to warn.

She does livestreams on YouTube. Often they are twenty minutes, so more bit sized chunks for busy folks. Lately she’s been talking about how to manage violence and different ways to create a more inclusive community.

She cut her teeth working with violent offenders and she created a highly successful programme that wasn’t rolled out across America, I am guessing that the for profit prisons lobbyists may have had something to do with that.

Dr Lee’s website Visit

One doesn’t need psychiatrists to show he’s dangerous
All US presidents are dangerous but he’s Emperor Palpatine dangerous.

Poe Dameron “Some how Trumpatine has returned”

If he wasn’t president you can imagine his rants would attract psychiatric intervention (assuming he had insurance)

All the people he’s abused would be suing him into bankruptcy.

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Date: 27/10/2026 11:53:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2442841
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Cymek said:

Cymek said:

One doesn’t need psychiatrists to show he’s dangerous
All US presidents are dangerous but he’s Emperor Palpatine dangerous.

Poe Dameron “Some how Trumpatine has returned”

If he wasn’t president you can imagine his rants would attract psychiatric intervention (assuming he had insurance)

Indeed

‘The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump’ can be downloaded from here:

https://annas-archive.pk/search?q=the+dangerous+case+of+donald+trump&check=1

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Date: 27/10/2026 12:19:42
From: ms spock
ID: 2442846
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


ms spock said:

Cymek said:

If he wasn’t president you can imagine his rants would attract psychiatric intervention (assuming he had insurance)

Indeed

‘The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump’ can be downloaded from here:

https://annas-archive.pk/search?q=the+dangerous+case+of+donald+trump&check=1

Great resource captain_spalding. Thanks

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Date: 27/10/2026 14:44:53
From: dv
ID: 2442905
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Meanwhile

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Date: 28/10/2026 00:23:28
From: kii
ID: 2443090
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Word of the day “incumbent”.

No one knows what it means.

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Date: 28/10/2026 00:27:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2443091
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Word of the day “incumbent”.

No one knows what it means.

Then it is incumbent on those people to remedy that gap in their knowledge.

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Date: 28/10/2026 00:57:54
From: kii
ID: 2443093
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

Word of the day “incumbent”.

No one knows what it means.

Then it is incumbent on those people to remedy that gap in their knowledge.

It’s a Trump thing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/alaska/s/y3A1jLhfY8

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Date: 28/10/2026 01:25:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2443094
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


captain_spalding said:

kii said:

Word of the day “incumbent”.

No one knows what it means.

Then it is incumbent on those people to remedy that gap in their knowledge.

It’s a Trump thing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/alaska/s/y3A1jLhfY8

“If we win, then there was no confusion. If we lose, there was MASSIVE cconfusion.”

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Date: 28/10/2026 08:49:44
From: ms spock
ID: 2443114
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Greetings Earthlings

It is currently 22°.

Temperatures will range from 18° to 26°.

Humidity is 89%.

It is cloudy and sunny.

Errands, gardening and paper work on the Insurance Company for the Australian Financial Complaints Authority. The almost never ending saga.

I hope that all folks have a great day.

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Date: 28/10/2026 09:02:17
From: ms spock
ID: 2443115
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

Greetings Earthlings

It is currently 22°.

Temperatures will range from 18° to 26°.

Humidity is 89%.

It is cloudy and sunny.

Errands, gardening and paper work on the Insurance Company for the Australian Financial Complaints Authority. The almost never ending saga.

I hope that all folks have a great day.

Sorry Rong Thread!

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Date: 28/10/2026 11:59:32
From: dv
ID: 2443141
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/coddling-putin-wont-bring-peace-to-ukraine-2464d660

Coddling Putin Won’t Bring Peace to Ukraine
Trump’s obeisance to the Kremlin also imperils his legislative agenda in the lame-duck Congress.

Mitch McConnell

—

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Date: 28/10/2026 12:04:28
From: Cymek
ID: 2443142
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.wsj.com/opinion/coddling-putin-wont-bring-peace-to-ukraine-2464d660

Coddling Putin Won’t Bring Peace to Ukraine
Trump’s obeisance to the Kremlin also imperils his legislative agenda in the lame-duck Congress.

Mitch McConnell

—

Don’t need no Mitch McConnell to tell us that.
Could assume any peace deal lasts long enough for the Russians to try again after replenishing weapons

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Date: 28/10/2026 12:27:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2443147
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

dv said:

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/coddling-putin-wont-bring-peace-to-ukraine-2464d660

Coddling Putin Won’t Bring Peace to Ukraine
Trump’s obeisance to the Kremlin also imperils his legislative agenda in the lame-duck Congress.

Mitch McConnell

—

Don’t need no Mitch McConnell to tell us that.
Could assume any peace deal lasts long enough for the Russians to try again after replenishing weapons

wait how does the dead man even speak

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Date: 28/10/2026 14:24:24
From: dv
ID: 2443200
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

“They have solar, some solar, not those big monsters that they put up all over, they kill all the animals. The animals jump on them and they fry because those black panels are hotter than your stove.”

Stable genius addressing a rally in Texas yesterday

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Date: 28/10/2026 14:28:49
From: Michael V
ID: 2443205
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

“They have solar, some solar, not those big monsters that they put up all over, they kill all the animals. The animals jump on them and they fry because those black panels are hotter than your stove.”

Stable genius addressing a rally in Texas yesterday

Snort.

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Date: 28/10/2026 15:04:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2443212
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

“They have solar, some solar, not those big monsters that they put up all over, they kill all the animals. The animals jump on them and they fry because those black panels are hotter than your stove.”

Stable genius addressing a rally in Texas yesterday

Solar panels work best at 25 deg C / 77deg F. They can usually stand temps up to 65 deg C / 149 deg F.

Most panels reach 49°C to 66°C (120°F to 150°F) on hot, sunny days.

70 deg C / 158 deg F is the generally accepted minimum temp needed to thoroughly fry an egg, and it’d take about 4 minutes.

If there’s any animals frying on solar panels, then it’s likely they were already dead before they were put on that surface.

Only MAGA voters would be dumb enough to sit on a hot solar panel for more than four minutes.

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Date: 28/10/2026 15:40:33
From: Michael V
ID: 2443217
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


dv said:
“They have solar, some solar, not those big monsters that they put up all over, they kill all the animals. The animals jump on them and they fry because those black panels are hotter than your stove.”

Stable genius addressing a rally in Texas yesterday

Solar panels work best at 25 deg C / 77deg F. They can usually stand temps up to 65 deg C / 149 deg F.

Most panels reach 49°C to 66°C (120°F to 150°F) on hot, sunny days.

70 deg C / 158 deg F is the generally accepted minimum temp needed to thoroughly fry an egg, and it’d take about 4 minutes.

If there’s any animals frying on solar panels, then it’s likely they were already dead before they were put on that surface.

Only MAGA voters would be dumb enough to sit on a hot solar panel for more than four minutes.

Good summation.

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Date: 28/10/2026 16:37:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2443227
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

“They have solar, some solar, not those big monsters that they put up all over, they kill all the animals. The animals jump on them and they fry because those black panels are hotter than your stove.”

Stable genius addressing a rally in Texas yesterday

Solar panels work best at 25 deg C / 77deg F. They can usually stand temps up to 65 deg C / 149 deg F.

Most panels reach 49°C to 66°C (120°F to 150°F) on hot, sunny days.

70 deg C / 158 deg F is the generally accepted minimum temp needed to thoroughly fry an egg, and it’d take about 4 minutes.

If there’s any animals frying on solar panels, then it’s likely they were already dead before they were put on that surface.

Only MAGA voters would be dumb enough to sit on a hot solar panel for more than four minutes.

Good summation.

we mean trying to reason those geniuses out of a fascism they didn’t reason themselves into is so going to work

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Date: 28/10/2026 16:39:03
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2443229
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

MAGAs try to explain how Trump’s policies have personally made their lives better.

https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post/3myvsww6kqs2l

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Date: 28/10/2026 17:11:12
From: Michael V
ID: 2443244
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


MAGAs try to explain how Trump’s policies have personally made their lives better.

https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post/3myvsww6kqs2l

Giggle.

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Date: 28/10/2026 20:46:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2443314
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 28/10/2026 21:08:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2443321
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged

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Date: 29/10/2026 01:20:25
From: kii
ID: 2443373
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Obama and Trump.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1F384L3Z2K/

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Date: 29/10/2026 01:31:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2443375
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Obama and Trump.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1F384L3Z2K/

I’ve been reading ‘The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump – 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President’

(download from here: https://annas-archive.pk/search?q=the+dangerous+case+of+donald+trump&check=1)

Published in 2017, it predicts so much of Trump’s decline in his second term, and so many of the things that he’s done. And, in 2017, no-one knew for sure he’d get a second term.

One expert summed it up: Trump’s development stopped in early childhood.

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Date: 29/10/2026 11:34:13
From: dv
ID: 2443434
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

5 days out from the midterms, might as well have a squiz at how the Senate races are playing in the polls.

The House is important, but it seems certain the Dems will get a working majority, and the exact extent doesn’t matter that much. In the Senate, the numbers will matter for at least two reasons. Firstly they want a large enough majority to overcome internal resistance. At 52-48, the D leadership would struggle on several issues to enact their will because of conservative Democratic senators. At 54-46 they’ll have more options. Secondly, these senators will be around for six years: If they get to 54-46, they could have a view to being at 60-40 in 2028, which is a filibuster-proof majority.

—-

At present the senate balance is 53R-47D but that 47 includes senators King and Sanders, independents who caucus with the Democrats. There are opportunities for more Dem-friendly independents to win office this year.

35 Senate seats are up for election: 33 “regular” election and 2 “special” elections for to elect replacements. Of this 35, 22 are held by Republicans, 13 by Democrats. Of the senate spots not up for election this year, 31 are held by Reps, 34 are held by Dems and friends.

*Solid Republican (almost certain R victory)
Alabama
Arkansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Oklahoma
Tennessee
West Virginia
Wyoming

*Very likely Republican
Florida: Moody ® ahead by 7%, Nixon (D) a long shot
Idaho: independent Todd Achilles has a long shot
Mississippi: Colom (D) is 3% behind in latest poll
Montana: independent Bodnar has a long shot
South Dakota: independent Brian Bengs has a long shot

*Republican leading but within polling margin
South Carolina: Darline Graham ® leads Annie Andrews by 1.5% but the margin is closing

*Neck and Neck
Iowa: Turek (D) ahead by less than 1%
Kansas: Hamilton (D) ahead by less than 1%
Nebraska: independent Dan Osborn ahead by less than 1%

*Democrats leading but within polling margin
Alaska: Peltola (D) ahead by 4%
Maine: Jackson (D) ahead 3%
Michigan: El Sayed (D) ahead 3%
Ohio: Brown (D) ahead 3%
Texas: Talarico (D) ahead 3%

*Very likely Democrat
Georgia
Minnesota
New Hampshire

*Solid Democrat
Colorado
Delaware
Illinois
Massachusetts
New Jersey
New Mexico
North Carolina
Oregon
Rhode Island
Virginia

The likely range then is 56D* – 44R to 47D*- 53R. The most likely would be somethng like 53D* – 47R.

*including King, Sanders and maybe Osborn

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Date: 29/10/2026 12:18:42
From: dv
ID: 2443449
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Governorships are also important for federal politics since state governments determine congressional boundaries, and also affect ballot access and the conduct of federal elections. They are of course also important in their own right as state governments wield tremendous power in health and education etc.

—-

Of the 50 governorships, 36 are up for election. Currently 26 are R, 24 are D. 18 of each are up for election.

*Solid Republican
Alabama
Arkansas
Idaho
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Tennessee
Wyoming

*Very likely Republican
Kansas (gain for R)
New Hampshire
South Carolina

*Republic leads within polling margin
Florida
Nebraska
Texas
Vermont

*Neck and Neck
Georgia (currently R held)
Nevada (currently R held)

*Democrat leads within polling margin
Ohio (gain for D)
Oregon
Wisconsin

*Very likely Democratic
Iowa (gain for D)
Michigan
New Mexico

*Solid Democrat
Alaska (gain for D)
Arizona (gain for D)
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Hawaii
Illinois
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Minnesota
New York
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island

Democrats might reasonably hope to pick up between 4 and 6 governorships, with some chance of 10.
However it seems Kansas will likely be won by the Republican, as the very popular incumbent Laura Kelly cannot run again. Democrat Tina Kotek, governor of Oregon, is also at some risk.

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Date: 29/10/2026 12:23:42
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2443450
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

The likely range then is 56D* – 44R to 47D*- 53R. The most likely would be somethng like 53D* – 47R.

Senate polling tends to have a margin of error of about 5 points, push this back through the washing machine and it’s not inconceivable to see things going down to the wire. At the end of the day the Dems need to pick up 4 seats and while the numbers look good for the Dems, I’m not counting anu chickens in Maine, Texas or Alaska

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Date: 29/10/2026 12:30:08
From: kii
ID: 2443454
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

President Obama in Atlanta responding to the response from Trump about The Cheesecake Factory joke.

Link.

I’d laugh, but it all so insane.

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Date: 29/10/2026 12:31:01
From: Cymek
ID: 2443455
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

Governorships are also important for federal politics since state governments determine congressional boundaries, and also affect ballot access and the conduct of federal elections. They are of course also important in their own right as state governments wield tremendous power in health and education etc.

—-

Of the 50 governorships, 36 are up for election. Currently 26 are R, 24 are D. 18 of each are up for election.

*Solid Republican
Alabama
Arkansas
Idaho
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Tennessee
Wyoming

*Very likely Republican
Kansas (gain for R)
New Hampshire
South Carolina

*Republic leads within polling margin
Florida
Nebraska
Texas
Vermont

*Neck and Neck
Georgia (currently R held)
Nevada (currently R held)

*Democrat leads within polling margin
Ohio (gain for D)
Oregon
Wisconsin

*Very likely Democratic
Iowa (gain for D)
Michigan
New Mexico

*Solid Democrat
Alaska (gain for D)
Arizona (gain for D)
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Hawaii
Illinois
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Minnesota
New York
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island

Democrats might reasonably hope to pick up between 4 and 6 governorships, with some chance of 10.
However it seems Kansas will likely be won by the Republican, as the very popular incumbent Laura Kelly cannot run again. Democrat Tina Kotek, governor of Oregon, is also at some risk.

Its interesting that Republican dominated states are mostly Southern states
Still hanging in hoping slavery will be re-established and marrying sisters or brothers becomes legal

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Date: 29/10/2026 12:40:05
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2443458
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:

Its interesting that Republican dominated states are mostly Southern states
Still hanging in hoping slavery will be re-established and marrying sisters or brothers becomes legal

While the colour of a person’s skin is somewhat indicative of their voting preference, the biggest indicators of current voting preference in the US are where people live (rural or metropolitan), what their educational status is and what their religious beliefs are.

If you live in a rural area, are a non-university graduate or are a practicing Christian, it’s more likely than not that you are voting for the GOP

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Date: 29/10/2026 12:43:01
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2443460
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

the NYT is reporting that Democratic operatives recruited Dan Sullivan(s) in Alaska in order to act as “Spoiler Candidates”

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Date: 29/10/2026 12:53:30
From: dv
ID: 2443465
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:

the NYT is reporting that Democratic operatives recruited Dan Sullivan(s) in Alaska in order to act as “Spoiler Candidates”

NYT has gone downhill…

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Date: 29/10/2026 12:54:59
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2443467
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


diddly-squat said:

the NYT is reporting that Democratic operatives recruited Dan Sullivan(s) in Alaska in order to act as “Spoiler Candidates”

NYT has gone downhill…

them and CNN both

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Date: 29/10/2026 14:00:40
From: kii
ID: 2443502
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

Obama and Trump.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1F384L3Z2K/

I’ve been reading ‘The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump – 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President’

(download from here: https://annas-archive.pk/search?q=the+dangerous+case+of+donald+trump&check=1)

Published in 2017, it predicts so much of Trump’s decline in his second term, and so many of the things that he’s done. And, in 2017, no-one knew for sure he’d get a second term.

One expert summed it up: Trump’s development stopped in early childhood.

That’s on my reading list.
Dr Mary Trump has a good take on the stalled development of Trump, also Dr Bandy Lee.

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Date: 29/10/2026 16:02:57
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2443534
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Oh no! Anyway…

Less than a week from the midterms, Trump is very, very unpopular

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-29/donald-trump-popularity-midterms-casey-briggs/107319280

(This headline is from the main news page, the article’s headline is different 🤷🏻‍♀️)

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Date: 29/10/2026 16:05:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2443535
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:

Oh no! Anyway…

Less than a week from the midterms, Trump is very, very unpopular

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-29/donald-trump-popularity-midterms-casey-briggs/107319280

(This headline is from the main news page, the article’s headline is different 🤷🏻‍♀️)

when you reload the news pages you see they run different titles constantly, it’s sad but yousr ABC have bought into the whole ABC testing thing these days so it’s all click bait

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Date: 29/10/2026 16:40:28
From: Woodie
ID: 2443546
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


captain_spalding said:

kii said:

Obama and Trump.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1F384L3Z2K/

I’ve been reading ‘The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump – 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President’

(download from here: https://annas-archive.pk/search?q=the+dangerous+case+of+donald+trump&check=1)

Published in 2017, it predicts so much of Trump’s decline in his second term, and so many of the things that he’s done. And, in 2017, no-one knew for sure he’d get a second term.

One expert summed it up: Trump’s development stopped in early childhood.

That’s on my reading list.
Dr Mary Trump has a good take on the stalled development of Trump, also Dr Bandy Lee.

I already know enough about the Orange Shitgibbon, re who,what when where and why he is. I don’t, and won’t read anything that confirms my thoughts and opinion. Nor, for that matter, anything “new” . It same old, same old over and over again.

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Date: 29/10/2026 18:20:00
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2443573
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

After landing in US, Flavio Bolsonaro declares himself Brazil’s rightful leader

SAO PAULO, Oct 28 (Reuters) – Senator Flavio Bolsonaro declared ​himself Brazil’s rightful leader on Wednesday after arriving in the United States, alleging he was the victim of an electoral coup by the country’s ‌Supreme Court and President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who won the vote by over 4 million votes.

Bolsonaro arrived in Miami after leaving Brazil, where he refused to comply with a Supreme Court order to surrender his passports. He thanked Argentine leader Javier Milei for helping him make the journey and US President Donald Trump, who granted him and his family entry visas, for welcoming him.

In an initial ​open letter posted on X, Bolsonaro declared himself “the elected president.” He then deleted that version and updated it with another letter in which he said he ​was the rightful “leader” of Brazil.

“I want to say, not only to my 60 million voters but to the Brazilian people, that I ⁠am the leader and that the criminals who stole Brazil’s election are part of a criminal organization that has established a tyranny,” he said in the updated version.
Lula’s victory ​has been recognized by Brazil’s federal electoral court, global leaders, international observers, and Bolsonaro’s own party.

Brazil’s election took place in full compliance with legal and constitutional requirements, electoral authority chief ​Kassio Nunes Marques said in a statement, without referencing Bolsonaro’s letter.
Asked by reporters at Joint Base Andrews about Bolsonaro’s comments, Trump declined to comment, reiterating earlier views that it was “a very strange election.”

PROBLEM FOR WASHINGTON
Bolsonaro’s declaration poses a problem for Washington as it seeks to navigate a rift with Latin America’s largest country, home to the world’s second-largest reserves of rare earths.

Lula has accused Washington of colluding ​with the Bolsonaro family to help return them to power. Ahead of Sunday’s election, Reuters reported on a US State Department campaign to restore the Bolsonaros to office. Washington denies ​meddling in Brazil’s domestic affairs.

Trump has previously alleged Flavio’s father, former President Jair Bolsonaro, was a victim of judicial persecution.

Link

Gee, how surprising.

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Date: 29/10/2026 20:28:11
From: dv
ID: 2443597
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


After landing in US, Flavio Bolsonaro declares himself Brazil’s rightful leader

SAO PAULO, Oct 28 (Reuters) – Senator Flavio Bolsonaro declared ​himself Brazil’s rightful leader on Wednesday after arriving in the United States, alleging he was the victim of an electoral coup by the country’s ‌Supreme Court and President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who won the vote by over 4 million votes.

Bolsonaro arrived in Miami after leaving Brazil, where he refused to comply with a Supreme Court order to surrender his passports. He thanked Argentine leader Javier Milei for helping him make the journey and US President Donald Trump, who granted him and his family entry visas, for welcoming him.

In an initial ​open letter posted on X, Bolsonaro declared himself “the elected president.” He then deleted that version and updated it with another letter in which he said he ​was the rightful “leader” of Brazil.

“I want to say, not only to my 60 million voters but to the Brazilian people, that I ⁠am the leader and that the criminals who stole Brazil’s election are part of a criminal organization that has established a tyranny,” he said in the updated version.
Lula’s victory ​has been recognized by Brazil’s federal electoral court, global leaders, international observers, and Bolsonaro’s own party.

Brazil’s election took place in full compliance with legal and constitutional requirements, electoral authority chief ​Kassio Nunes Marques said in a statement, without referencing Bolsonaro’s letter.
Asked by reporters at Joint Base Andrews about Bolsonaro’s comments, Trump declined to comment, reiterating earlier views that it was “a very strange election.”

PROBLEM FOR WASHINGTON
Bolsonaro’s declaration poses a problem for Washington as it seeks to navigate a rift with Latin America’s largest country, home to the world’s second-largest reserves of rare earths.

Lula has accused Washington of colluding ​with the Bolsonaro family to help return them to power. Ahead of Sunday’s election, Reuters reported on a US State Department campaign to restore the Bolsonaros to office. Washington denies ​meddling in Brazil’s domestic affairs.

Trump has previously alleged Flavio’s father, former President Jair Bolsonaro, was a victim of judicial persecution.

Link

Gee, how surprising.

It’s like Idi Amin retiring to Jeddah

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Date: 29/10/2026 20:33:56
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2443601
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Spiny Norman said:

After landing in US, Flavio Bolsonaro declares himself Brazil’s rightful leader

SAO PAULO, Oct 28 (Reuters) – Senator Flavio Bolsonaro declared ​himself Brazil’s rightful leader on Wednesday after arriving in the United States, alleging he was the victim of an electoral coup by the country’s ‌Supreme Court and President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who won the vote by over 4 million votes.

Bolsonaro arrived in Miami after leaving Brazil, where he refused to comply with a Supreme Court order to surrender his passports. He thanked Argentine leader Javier Milei for helping him make the journey and US President Donald Trump, who granted him and his family entry visas, for welcoming him.

In an initial ​open letter posted on X, Bolsonaro declared himself “the elected president.” He then deleted that version and updated it with another letter in which he said he ​was the rightful “leader” of Brazil.

“I want to say, not only to my 60 million voters but to the Brazilian people, that I ⁠am the leader and that the criminals who stole Brazil’s election are part of a criminal organization that has established a tyranny,” he said in the updated version.
Lula’s victory ​has been recognized by Brazil’s federal electoral court, global leaders, international observers, and Bolsonaro’s own party.

Brazil’s election took place in full compliance with legal and constitutional requirements, electoral authority chief ​Kassio Nunes Marques said in a statement, without referencing Bolsonaro’s letter.
Asked by reporters at Joint Base Andrews about Bolsonaro’s comments, Trump declined to comment, reiterating earlier views that it was “a very strange election.”

PROBLEM FOR WASHINGTON
Bolsonaro’s declaration poses a problem for Washington as it seeks to navigate a rift with Latin America’s largest country, home to the world’s second-largest reserves of rare earths.

Lula has accused Washington of colluding ​with the Bolsonaro family to help return them to power. Ahead of Sunday’s election, Reuters reported on a US State Department campaign to restore the Bolsonaros to office. Washington denies ​meddling in Brazil’s domestic affairs.

Trump has previously alleged Flavio’s father, former President Jair Bolsonaro, was a victim of judicial persecution.

Link

Gee, how surprising.

It’s like Idi Amin retiring to Jeddah

Yeah. :(
FWIW we were based in the same hotel as him, the Al Bilad.
Unwittingly, I have sat in the same seat he used on the couch in the hotel when watching people go in & out. He was long gone by the time we got there though.

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Date: 29/10/2026 20:37:05
From: party_pants
ID: 2443603
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:


After landing in US, Flavio Bolsonaro declares himself Brazil’s rightful leader

SAO PAULO, Oct 28 (Reuters) – Senator Flavio Bolsonaro declared ​himself Brazil’s rightful leader on Wednesday after arriving in the United States, alleging he was the victim of an electoral coup by the country’s ‌Supreme Court and President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who won the vote by over 4 million votes.

Bolsonaro arrived in Miami after leaving Brazil, where he refused to comply with a Supreme Court order to surrender his passports. He thanked Argentine leader Javier Milei for helping him make the journey and US President Donald Trump, who granted him and his family entry visas, for welcoming him.

In an initial ​open letter posted on X, Bolsonaro declared himself “the elected president.” He then deleted that version and updated it with another letter in which he said he ​was the rightful “leader” of Brazil.

“I want to say, not only to my 60 million voters but to the Brazilian people, that I ⁠am the leader and that the criminals who stole Brazil’s election are part of a criminal organization that has established a tyranny,” he said in the updated version.
Lula’s victory ​has been recognized by Brazil’s federal electoral court, global leaders, international observers, and Bolsonaro’s own party.

Brazil’s election took place in full compliance with legal and constitutional requirements, electoral authority chief ​Kassio Nunes Marques said in a statement, without referencing Bolsonaro’s letter.
Asked by reporters at Joint Base Andrews about Bolsonaro’s comments, Trump declined to comment, reiterating earlier views that it was “a very strange election.”

PROBLEM FOR WASHINGTON
Bolsonaro’s declaration poses a problem for Washington as it seeks to navigate a rift with Latin America’s largest country, home to the world’s second-largest reserves of rare earths.

Lula has accused Washington of colluding ​with the Bolsonaro family to help return them to power. Ahead of Sunday’s election, Reuters reported on a US State Department campaign to restore the Bolsonaros to office. Washington denies ​meddling in Brazil’s domestic affairs.

Trump has previously alleged Flavio’s father, former President Jair Bolsonaro, was a victim of judicial persecution.

Link

Gee, how surprising.

It’s always a dnagerous thing when people running for elected office refuse to accept the result.

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Date: 29/10/2026 23:08:19
From: dv
ID: 2443621
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

I guess
https://www.vanityfair.com/story/jared-kushner-hacked-phone-secret-negotiations

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Date: 30/10/2026 03:46:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2443627
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

President Obama in Atlanta responding to the response from Trump about The Cheesecake Factory joke.

Link.

I’d laugh, but it all so insane.

so they compared kkk to saddam hussein, pretty sure they should be arrested for threatening to wage illegal war on and kill the great dear glorious beloved leader

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Date: 30/10/2026 10:41:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2443680
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Mr Guerrero voted for Mr Trump two years ago partly because he vowed to stop the wave of refugees and migrants coming across the southern border. However, he says the wave of arrests will drive people to vote for the Democrats. “[Former US president Joe] Biden was a failure,” Mr Guerrero says. “He opened our borders. Nobody wanted that. Nobody wants open borders. So when Trump was like, ‘We’re gonna stop that. We’re gonna close that. We’re gonna send them all back,’ [we were pleased]. Of course we want them to go back, but we never thought that he was gonna terrorise people that were here already working and and providing a better living for their families.”

nobody could have foreseen it

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Date: 30/10/2026 11:14:33
From: ms spock
ID: 2443695
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

As Trump appears to be planning to subvert the midterm elections, social psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee returns to explain the psychology of why he will never admit defeat, nor leave office, as his desperation grows stronger in the face of a collapsing regime which is becoming increasingly violent and aggressive – only on The Weekend Show.

Visit www.bandylee.com

Link

This is from two weeks ago.

I don’t know if they do shorts on these ones.

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Date: 30/10/2026 11:46:06
From: ms spock
ID: 2443703
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Robin Williams on Donald Trump.

Link

2 minutes

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Date: 30/10/2026 22:06:40
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2443916
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Joshua Putnam

OK, whatever your opinions on the original hack doxxing tens of thousands of ICE and DHS employees, this self-doxxing is funny.

If someone releases a huge list of people who wanted to remain secret, and you want to know if you’re on that list, download the whole list and search it locally. Don’t use your work IP address to go put your own name into their search logs.

Someone didn’t pay attention in their online security training.

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Date: 30/10/2026 22:08:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2443917
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ChrispenEvan said:


Joshua Putnam

OK, whatever your opinions on the original hack doxxing tens of thousands of ICE and DHS employees, this self-doxxing is funny.

If someone releases a huge list of people who wanted to remain secret, and you want to know if you’re on that list, download the whole list and search it locally. Don’t use your work IP address to go put your own name into their search logs.

Someone didn’t pay attention in their online security training.

I don’t think that you have to number among America’s best and brightest to qualify for ICE.

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Date: 31/10/2026 05:03:14
From: kii
ID: 2443955
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

⚠️Texas MAGA lawmaker Don Huffines is in full panic mode: “We’re not doing good right now in the early vote. We’re getting beat by the leftists. We’re getting beat bad. You need to know that. You need to be scared.”

He looks like a Thunderbirds marionette.

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Date: 31/10/2026 07:00:30
From: buffy
ID: 2443960
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


⚠️Texas MAGA lawmaker Don Huffines is in full panic mode: “We’re not doing good right now in the early vote. We’re getting beat by the leftists. We’re getting beat bad. You need to know that. You need to be scared.”

He looks like a Thunderbirds marionette.

His crowd is unimpressed. A couple of those women appear to be looking at their phones. They won’t get their pay for standing behind him and looking pretty.

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Date: 31/10/2026 09:21:01
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2443975
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


kii said:

⚠️Texas MAGA lawmaker Don Huffines is in full panic mode: “We’re not doing good right now in the early vote. We’re getting beat by the leftists. We’re getting beat bad. You need to know that. You need to be scared.”

He looks like a Thunderbirds marionette.

His crowd is unimpressed. A couple of those women appear to be looking at their phones. They won’t get their pay for standing behind him and looking pretty.

He looks scared.

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Date: 31/10/2026 09:30:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 2443976
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

kii said:

⚠️Texas MAGA lawmaker Don Huffines is in full panic mode: “We’re not doing good right now in the early vote. We’re getting beat by the leftists. We’re getting beat bad. You need to know that. You need to be scared.”

He looks like a Thunderbirds marionette.

His crowd is unimpressed. A couple of those women appear to be looking at their phones. They won’t get their pay for standing behind him and looking pretty.

He looks scared.

He’ll probably start kicking the sides out of his crib soon.

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Date: 31/10/2026 09:31:36
From: Michael V
ID: 2443977
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

kii said:

⚠️Texas MAGA lawmaker Don Huffines is in full panic mode: “We’re not doing good right now in the early vote. We’re getting beat by the leftists. We’re getting beat bad. You need to know that. You need to be scared.”

He looks like a Thunderbirds marionette.

His crowd is unimpressed. A couple of those women appear to be looking at their phones. They won’t get their pay for standing behind him and looking pretty.

He looks scared.

I haven’t looked at it yet, and may not because facebook covers whatever I watch with a “Login or Join Up” screen after a short time, which is intensely annoying.

What I do find interesting is that kii (intentionally or not) put a mouseover in the link. This is something I might experiment with. Later.

We were going for a walk on the beach, but may not because there is rain around.

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Date: 31/10/2026 09:32:19
From: Ian
ID: 2443978
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 31/10/2026 09:38:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 2443981
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Ian said:



:)

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Date: 31/10/2026 13:47:43
From: kii
ID: 2444076
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

His crowd is unimpressed. A couple of those women appear to be looking at their phones. They won’t get their pay for standing behind him and looking pretty.

He looks scared.

I haven’t looked at it yet, and may not because facebook covers whatever I watch with a “Login or Join Up” screen after a short time, which is intensely annoying.

What I do find interesting is that kii (intentionally or not) put a mouseover in the link. This is something I might experiment with. Later.

We were going for a walk on the beach, but may not because there is rain around.

Not intentionally, MV. I was lying in bed with the tablet held over my face and it was easier to c’n‘p the available caption than to edit a nice neat link caption. Plus it was late o’clock.

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Date: 31/10/2026 14:04:50
From: Michael V
ID: 2444087
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

He looks scared.

I haven’t looked at it yet, and may not because facebook covers whatever I watch with a “Login or Join Up” screen after a short time, which is intensely annoying.

What I do find interesting is that kii (intentionally or not) put a mouseover in the link. This is something I might experiment with. Later.

We were going for a walk on the beach, but may not because there is rain around.

Not intentionally, MV. I was lying in bed with the tablet held over my face and it was easier to c’n‘p the available caption than to edit a nice neat link caption. Plus it was late o’clock.

I figured out how it works. Most pleased with myself. (The mouseover is contained in brackets in the link’s description.)

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Date: 31/10/2026 14:11:11
From: kii
ID: 2444094
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


kii said:

Michael V said:

I haven’t looked at it yet, and may not because facebook covers whatever I watch with a “Login or Join Up” screen after a short time, which is intensely annoying.

What I do find interesting is that kii (intentionally or not) put a mouseover in the link. This is something I might experiment with. Later.

We were going for a walk on the beach, but may not because there is rain around.

Not intentionally, MV. I was lying in bed with the tablet held over my face and it was easier to c’n‘p the available caption than to edit a nice neat link caption. Plus it was late o’clock.

I figured out how it works. Most pleased with myself. (The mouseover is contained in brackets in the link’s description.)

Ah, cool.

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Date: 31/10/2026 14:13:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2444098
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

Michael V said:

kii said:

Not intentionally, MV. I was lying in bed with the tablet held over my face and it was easier to c’n‘p the available caption than to edit a nice neat link caption. Plus it was late o’clock.

I figured out how it works. Most pleased with myself. (The mouseover is contained in brackets in the link’s description.)

Ah, cool.

love yous all

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Date: 31/10/2026 16:09:36
From: ms spock
ID: 2444136
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Dr Bandy X Lee

Project Human Survival Meeting

Link

6 minutes

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Date: 31/10/2026 16:46:20
From: kii
ID: 2444139
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Dr Bandy X Lee

Project Human Survival Meeting

Link

6 minutes

Thanks. Dr Bandy Lee is clear and straightforward. I really appreciate her insight.

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Date: 1/11/2026 02:48:00
From: dv
ID: 2444256
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 1/11/2026 08:55:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2444275
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


GCS 0

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Date: 1/11/2026 11:57:21
From: dv
ID: 2444321
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Date: 1/11/2026 13:03:36
From: kii
ID: 2444355
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Meanwhile in the USA…

From Brandon Weber’s Facebook page…

Dwight Jackson was putting up Halloween decorations outside his home in Chattahoochee, Florida, when he suffered a seizure. His brother called for medical help, and EMS arrived.
According to his brother, medics were still treating Jackson when Sgt. Price pushed past them and used a Taser on him. Jackson says he wasn’t combative—he was experiencing a seizure. Police Chief Michael Miller claimed Jackson physically resisted and grabbed the officer’s body armor.
Price has since been fired. The chief said his conduct failed departmental standards; the department also reviewed a separate confrontation with an EMS employee.
Jackson told WCTV the experience was “more terrifying than being in the war” because “it’s unexpected; I’m defenseless.”
Imagine calling for medical help and ending up terrified of the people who arrive. A medical emergency should never turn into a fucking police brutality nightmare.

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Date: 1/11/2026 13:12:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2444356
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Meanwhile in the USA…

From Brandon Weber’s Facebook page…

Dwight Jackson was putting up Halloween decorations outside his home in Chattahoochee, Florida, when he suffered a seizure. His brother called for medical help, and EMS arrived.
According to his brother, medics were still treating Jackson when Sgt. Price pushed past them and used a Taser on him. Jackson says he wasn’t combative—he was experiencing a seizure. Police Chief Michael Miller claimed Jackson physically resisted and grabbed the officer’s body armor.
Price has since been fired. The chief said his conduct failed departmental standards; the department also reviewed a separate confrontation with an EMS employee.
Jackson told WCTV the experience was “more terrifying than being in the war” because “it’s unexpected; I’m defenseless.”
Imagine calling for medical help and ending up terrified of the people who arrive. A medical emergency should never turn into a fucking police brutality nightmare.


So, the cop turns up, barges in, and zaps the patient on thee ground seven times?

What crime did the policeman think the bloke was committing? Receiving medical treatment with malicious intent? Having a seizure without a permit?

How off your face on whatever it was do you have to be to misread a situation that badly?

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Date: 1/11/2026 13:16:43
From: party_pants
ID: 2444360
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

Meanwhile in the USA…

From Brandon Weber’s Facebook page…

Dwight Jackson was putting up Halloween decorations outside his home in Chattahoochee, Florida, when he suffered a seizure. His brother called for medical help, and EMS arrived.
According to his brother, medics were still treating Jackson when Sgt. Price pushed past them and used a Taser on him. Jackson says he wasn’t combative—he was experiencing a seizure. Police Chief Michael Miller claimed Jackson physically resisted and grabbed the officer’s body armor.
Price has since been fired. The chief said his conduct failed departmental standards; the department also reviewed a separate confrontation with an EMS employee.
Jackson told WCTV the experience was “more terrifying than being in the war” because “it’s unexpected; I’m defenseless.”
Imagine calling for medical help and ending up terrified of the people who arrive. A medical emergency should never turn into a fucking police brutality nightmare.


So, the cop turns up, barges in, and zaps the patient on thee ground seven times?

What crime did the policeman think the bloke was committing? Receiving medical treatment with malicious intent? Having a seizure without a permit?

How off your face on whatever it was do you have to be to misread a situation that badly?

Shows it’s best not to participate in Halloween decorations and all that.

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Date: 1/11/2026 13:24:13
From: Michael V
ID: 2444367
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

Meanwhile in the USA…

From Brandon Weber’s Facebook page…

Dwight Jackson was putting up Halloween decorations outside his home in Chattahoochee, Florida, when he suffered a seizure. His brother called for medical help, and EMS arrived.
According to his brother, medics were still treating Jackson when Sgt. Price pushed past them and used a Taser on him. Jackson says he wasn’t combative—he was experiencing a seizure. Police Chief Michael Miller claimed Jackson physically resisted and grabbed the officer’s body armor.
Price has since been fired. The chief said his conduct failed departmental standards; the department also reviewed a separate confrontation with an EMS employee.
Jackson told WCTV the experience was “more terrifying than being in the war” because “it’s unexpected; I’m defenseless.”
Imagine calling for medical help and ending up terrified of the people who arrive. A medical emergency should never turn into a fucking police brutality nightmare.


So, the cop turns up, barges in, and zaps the patient on thee ground seven times?

What crime did the policeman think the bloke was committing? Receiving medical treatment with malicious intent? Having a seizure without a permit?

How off your face on whatever it was do you have to be to misread a situation that badly?

!!!

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Date: 1/11/2026 13:30:22
From: Michael V
ID: 2444372
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

kii said:

Meanwhile in the USA…

From Brandon Weber’s Facebook page…

Dwight Jackson was putting up Halloween decorations outside his home in Chattahoochee, Florida, when he suffered a seizure. His brother called for medical help, and EMS arrived.
According to his brother, medics were still treating Jackson when Sgt. Price pushed past them and used a Taser on him. Jackson says he wasn’t combative—he was experiencing a seizure. Police Chief Michael Miller claimed Jackson physically resisted and grabbed the officer’s body armor.
Price has since been fired. The chief said his conduct failed departmental standards; the department also reviewed a separate confrontation with an EMS employee.
Jackson told WCTV the experience was “more terrifying than being in the war” because “it’s unexpected; I’m defenseless.”
Imagine calling for medical help and ending up terrified of the people who arrive. A medical emergency should never turn into a fucking police brutality nightmare.


So, the cop turns up, barges in, and zaps the patient on thee ground seven times?

What crime did the policeman think the bloke was committing? Receiving medical treatment with malicious intent? Having a seizure without a permit?

How off your face on whatever it was do you have to be to misread a situation that badly?

Shows it’s best not to participate in Halloween decorations and all that.

Yeah, I guess.

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Date: 1/11/2026 13:31:47
From: kii
ID: 2444376
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

Meanwhile in the USA…

From Brandon Weber’s Facebook page…

Dwight Jackson was putting up Halloween decorations outside his home in Chattahoochee, Florida, when he suffered a seizure. His brother called for medical help, and EMS arrived.
According to his brother, medics were still treating Jackson when Sgt. Price pushed past them and used a Taser on him. Jackson says he wasn’t combative—he was experiencing a seizure. Police Chief Michael Miller claimed Jackson physically resisted and grabbed the officer’s body armor.
Price has since been fired. The chief said his conduct failed departmental standards; the department also reviewed a separate confrontation with an EMS employee.
Jackson told WCTV the experience was “more terrifying than being in the war” because “it’s unexpected; I’m defenseless.”
Imagine calling for medical help and ending up terrified of the people who arrive. A medical emergency should never turn into a fucking police brutality nightmare.


So, the cop turns up, barges in, and zaps the patient on thee ground seven times?

What crime did the policeman think the bloke was committing? Receiving medical treatment with malicious intent? Having a seizure without a permit?

How off your face on whatever it was do you have to be to misread a situation that badly?

Apparently the “crime” was being Black while having a seizure.

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Date: 1/11/2026 14:04:02
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2444394
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Local US election officials are bracing for the possibility of violence and intimidation when Americans turn up to vote at the November midterm elections.
The Trump administration has not ruled out deploying armed law enforcement officers, including ICE agents, to polling booths.

What’s next?
Pro-democracy advocates fear Donald Trump will reject the midterm election results if the Democrats win control of Congress.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-01/us-midterm-election-officials-prepare-ice-agents-trump-meddling/107322620

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Date: 1/11/2026 14:16:56
From: Woodie
ID: 2444413
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Local US election officials are bracing for the possibility of violence and intimidation when Americans turn up to vote at the November midterm elections.
The Trump administration has not ruled out deploying armed law enforcement officers, including ICE agents, to polling booths.

What’s next?
Pro-democracy advocates fear Donald Trump will reject the midterm election results if the Democrats win control of Congress.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-01/us-midterm-election-officials-prepare-ice-agents-trump-meddling/107322620

No doubt they’ll cancel the Melbourne Cup and tell us all to head for the hills.

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Date: 1/11/2026 14:17:37
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2444414
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


Divine Angel said:

Local US election officials are bracing for the possibility of violence and intimidation when Americans turn up to vote at the November midterm elections.
The Trump administration has not ruled out deploying armed law enforcement officers, including ICE agents, to polling booths.

What’s next?
Pro-democracy advocates fear Donald Trump will reject the midterm election results if the Democrats win control of Congress.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-01/us-midterm-election-officials-prepare-ice-agents-trump-meddling/107322620

No doubt they’ll cancel the Melbourne Cup and tell us all to head for the hills.

It’s why we need the three days of food and water supplies

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Date: 1/11/2026 15:14:57
From: Michael V
ID: 2444432
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Divine Angel said:


Woodie said:

Divine Angel said:

Local US election officials are bracing for the possibility of violence and intimidation when Americans turn up to vote at the November midterm elections.
The Trump administration has not ruled out deploying armed law enforcement officers, including ICE agents, to polling booths.

What’s next?
Pro-democracy advocates fear Donald Trump will reject the midterm election results if the Democrats win control of Congress.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-01/us-midterm-election-officials-prepare-ice-agents-trump-meddling/107322620

No doubt they’ll cancel the Melbourne Cup and tell us all to head for the hills.

It’s why we need the three days of food and water supplies

I need the water.

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Date: 1/11/2026 16:18:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2444449
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

Meanwhile in the USA…

From Brandon Weber’s Facebook page…

Dwight Jackson was putting up Halloween decorations outside his home in Chattahoochee, Florida, when he suffered a seizure. His brother called for medical help, and EMS arrived.
According to his brother, medics were still treating Jackson when Sgt. Price pushed past them and used a Taser on him. Jackson says he wasn’t combative—he was experiencing a seizure. Police Chief Michael Miller claimed Jackson physically resisted and grabbed the officer’s body armor.
Price has since been fired. The chief said his conduct failed departmental standards; the department also reviewed a separate confrontation with an EMS employee.
Jackson told WCTV the experience was “more terrifying than being in the war” because “it’s unexpected; I’m defenseless.”
Imagine calling for medical help and ending up terrified of the people who arrive. A medical emergency should never turn into a fucking police brutality nightmare.


So, the cop turns up, barges in, and zaps the patient on thee ground seven times?

What crime did the policeman think the bloke was committing? Receiving medical treatment with malicious intent? Having a seizure without a permit?

How off your face on whatever it was do you have to be to misread a situation that badly?

thankfully this kind of thing never happens in Australia, they only electroshock upstanding 95 year old persons who used to menstruate, when they’re brandishing bladed weapons and advancing threateningly with support from metal exoskeleton like frames

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Date: 1/11/2026 18:20:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2444480
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 1/11/2026 18:43:40
From: Michael V
ID: 2444486
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged


LOLz

:)

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Date: 1/11/2026 22:37:09
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2444511
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

NOTHING BUT THE BEST?

The streaks running down the The Arts of War Sculptures and The Arts of Peace Sculptures are not actual melting gold (which requires temperatures over 2,000°F).

Instead, observers and critics point to issues with the $5.1 million regilding and restoration project completed in July 2026 for America’s 250th anniversary:

• Improper application or sealants: The 23.75-karat gold leaf or the underlying adhesives, lacquers, and protective coatings were potentially misapplied or unsuited for outdoor weather exposure.

• Rain and runoff: Observers noted that when it rains, excess residue, adhesives, or degradation products wash off the statues and streak down the stone pedestals, creating a dripping or “melting” appearance.

• Rushed execution: The National Park Service awarded the no-bid contract with an accelerated timeline to finish the work by July 4, drawing criticism from preservationists and the public regarding oversight and execution quality.

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Date: 1/11/2026 22:38:38
From: Michael V
ID: 2444514
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ChrispenEvan said:


NOTHING BUT THE BEST?

The streaks running down the The Arts of War Sculptures and The Arts of Peace Sculptures are not actual melting gold (which requires temperatures over 2,000°F).

Instead, observers and critics point to issues with the $5.1 million regilding and restoration project completed in July 2026 for America’s 250th anniversary:

• Improper application or sealants: The 23.75-karat gold leaf or the underlying adhesives, lacquers, and protective coatings were potentially misapplied or unsuited for outdoor weather exposure.

• Rain and runoff: Observers noted that when it rains, excess residue, adhesives, or degradation products wash off the statues and streak down the stone pedestals, creating a dripping or “melting” appearance.

• Rushed execution: The National Park Service awarded the no-bid contract with an accelerated timeline to finish the work by July 4, drawing criticism from preservationists and the public regarding oversight and execution quality.

Blah.

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Date: 2/11/2026 03:39:58
From: kii
ID: 2444532
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Evidence that Joe Biden committed voter fraud, straight from his pretty mouth….wait, what?

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Date: 2/11/2026 08:46:26
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2444539
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Days out from polling day in the mid terms and Haley Stevens (D) has endorsed Mike Rogers ® in the critical Michigan senate race.

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Date: 2/11/2026 09:00:21
From: buffy
ID: 2444540
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Days out from polling day in the mid terms and Haley Stevens (D) has endorsed Mike Rogers ® in the critical Michigan senate race.

I don’t think I understand this endorsing thing. Who cares? In a democracy you just choose who you vote for on whatever grounds you think are appropriate. What does it matter who anyone else likes. It’s very playground behaviour.

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Date: 2/11/2026 09:09:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 2444541
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


diddly-squat said:

Days out from polling day in the mid terms and Haley Stevens (D) has endorsed Mike Rogers ® in the critical Michigan senate race.

I don’t think I understand this endorsing thing. Who cares? In a democracy you just choose who you vote for on whatever grounds you think are appropriate. What does it matter who anyone else likes. It’s very playground behaviour.

Team sports gets mentioned a lot.

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Date: 2/11/2026 09:45:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2444547
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/nov/01/business-jet-crash-florida

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Date: 2/11/2026 09:53:04
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2444550
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


diddly-squat said:

Days out from polling day in the mid terms and Haley Stevens (D) has endorsed Mike Rogers ® in the critical Michigan senate race.

I don’t think I understand this endorsing thing. Who cares? In a democracy you just choose who you vote for on whatever grounds you think are appropriate. What does it matter who anyone else likes. It’s very playground behaviour.

I dunno. It’s not remiss of the established supporter base of a politician to trust them to know more about the issues involved than themselves. In this case a Democrat endorsing a Republican because they fear the Democrat is too radical is a significant development that relays important information to the electorate and is not merely lip service.

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Date: 2/11/2026 09:56:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2444552
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 2/11/2026 09:57:38
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2444553
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


diddly-squat said:

Days out from polling day in the mid terms and Haley Stevens (D) has endorsed Mike Rogers ® in the critical Michigan senate race.

I don’t think I understand this endorsing thing. Who cares? In a democracy you just choose who you vote for on whatever grounds you think are appropriate. What does it matter who anyone else likes. It’s very playground behaviour.

Think of it like how political parties here squabble over how they preference other parties on their how to vote cards.. it’s the same kinda thing

It’s inconsequential and consequential at the same time because it speaks to the values of the person doing the endorsing.

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Date: 2/11/2026 09:58:22
From: buffy
ID: 2444554
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


buffy said:

diddly-squat said:

Days out from polling day in the mid terms and Haley Stevens (D) has endorsed Mike Rogers ® in the critical Michigan senate race.

I don’t think I understand this endorsing thing. Who cares? In a democracy you just choose who you vote for on whatever grounds you think are appropriate. What does it matter who anyone else likes. It’s very playground behaviour.

I dunno. It’s not remiss of the established supporter base of a politician to trust them to know more about the issues involved than themselves. In this case a Democrat endorsing a Republican because they fear the Democrat is too radical is a significant development that relays important information to the electorate and is not merely lip service.

It just reads like sour grapes with a rival candidate to me. So information probably not to be trusted. Very unbecoming.

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Date: 2/11/2026 10:00:16
From: buffy
ID: 2444555
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


buffy said:

diddly-squat said:

Days out from polling day in the mid terms and Haley Stevens (D) has endorsed Mike Rogers ® in the critical Michigan senate race.

I don’t think I understand this endorsing thing. Who cares? In a democracy you just choose who you vote for on whatever grounds you think are appropriate. What does it matter who anyone else likes. It’s very playground behaviour.

Think of it like how political parties here squabble over how they preference other parties on their how to vote cards.. it’s the same kinda thing

It’s inconsequential and consequential at the same time because it speaks to the values of the person doing the endorsing.

I don’t think I’ve ever bothered with knowing who is preferencing who. But I guess other people do.

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Date: 2/11/2026 10:01:54
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2444557
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

I don’t think I understand this endorsing thing. Who cares? In a democracy you just choose who you vote for on whatever grounds you think are appropriate. What does it matter who anyone else likes. It’s very playground behaviour.

I dunno. It’s not remiss of the established supporter base of a politician to trust them to know more about the issues involved than themselves. In this case a Democrat endorsing a Republican because they fear the Democrat is too radical is a significant development that relays important information to the electorate and is not merely lip service.

It just reads like sour grapes with a rival candidate to me. So information probably not to be trusted. Very unbecoming.

the thing is that that the senate race is close, Dems currently have their noses in front in the polling but national senate polls carry and upwards of 5 point margin of error. The Michigan race has been front and centre this entire cycle and is one of the tipping point states; so who wins Michigan, actually matters.

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Date: 2/11/2026 10:07:54
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2444559
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


diddly-squat said:

buffy said:

I don’t think I understand this endorsing thing. Who cares? In a democracy you just choose who you vote for on whatever grounds you think are appropriate. What does it matter who anyone else likes. It’s very playground behaviour.

Think of it like how political parties here squabble over how they preference other parties on their how to vote cards.. it’s the same kinda thing

It’s inconsequential and consequential at the same time because it speaks to the values of the person doing the endorsing.

I don’t think I’ve ever bothered with knowing who is preferencing who. But I guess other people do.

a not inconsequential number of people look to their representatives for guidance on, among other things, who to trust.

What is a little bit different this election is that early in person turn out is way up as people are dubious of the validity of votes cast by mail (because they are worried their vote won’t be counted), so late endorsements probably don’t count for a lot.

In my my mind single issue voters that are discounting El-Sayed on the basis of a supposed non-support of Jewish people are probably doing more harm than good.

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Date: 2/11/2026 10:13:06
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2444561
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Current key senate rates

Talarico leads Paxton by 2.9% in Texas

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Date: 2/11/2026 10:14:45
From: buffy
ID: 2444563
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Current key senate rates

Talarico leads Paxton by 2.9% in Texas

My Houston sister will be pleased with this.

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Date: 2/11/2026 10:18:17
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2444564
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Current key senate rates

Talarico {D} leads Paxton {R} by 2.9% in Texas
Jaskdon {D} leads Collins {R} by 3.0% in Maine
Brown {D} leads Husted {R} by 2.9% in Ohio
El-Sayed {D} leads Rogers {R} by 4.2% Michigan
Peltola {D} leads Sullivan {R{ by 3.1% Alaska
Hamilton {D} leads Marshall {R} by 2.7% Kansas

In essence the Dems need to pick up at least three of these seats if they want to take the Senate

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Date: 2/11/2026 10:21:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2444565
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Looking good for the D’s

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Date: 2/11/2026 10:25:13
From: buffy
ID: 2444566
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Current key senate rates

Talarico {D} leads Paxton {R} by 2.9% in Texas
Jaskdon {D} leads Collins {R} by 3.0% in Maine
Brown {D} leads Husted {R} by 2.9% in Ohio
El-Sayed {D} leads Rogers {R} by 4.2% Michigan
Peltola {D} leads Sullivan {R{ by 3.1% Alaska
Hamilton {D} leads Marshall {R} by 2.7% Kansas

In essence the Dems need to pick up at least three of these seats if they want to take the Senate

Between Heather Cox Richardson and Planet America, I think we’ve got a fairly good idea of what is going on. Apparently a lot of those are within the error margins. I never expected to still be taking an interest in American politics now.

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Date: 2/11/2026 10:27:38
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2444567
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


Looking good for the D’s

I hope so, it’s pretty much the last chance they have of saving their country.

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Date: 2/11/2026 10:36:19
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2444568
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


diddly-squat said:

Current key senate rates

Talarico {D} leads Paxton {R} by 2.9% in Texas
Jaskdon {D} leads Collins {R} by 3.0% in Maine
Brown {D} leads Husted {R} by 2.9% in Ohio
El-Sayed {D} leads Rogers {R} by 4.2% Michigan
Peltola {D} leads Sullivan {R{ by 3.1% Alaska
Hamilton {D} leads Marshall {R} by 2.7% Kansas

In essence the Dems need to pick up at least three of these seats if they want to take the Senate

Between Heather Cox Richardson and Planet America, I think we’ve got a fairly good idea of what is going on. Apparently a lot of those are within the error margins. I never expected to still be taking an interest in American politics now.

Yeah, the national polling error in senate races is there or there abouts 5%, for most of the key races we’re talking about a range of results that looks something like an R win by 2% to a D win by 8%.

There are of course a lot of cavets in the crosstabes there – for instance, a state like Maine is made up of old white voters, whereas a sate like Texas is made up of younger and increasingly more diverse voters and this matters.

Of all, the two states I have my doubts about and Maine and Texas.. I think these will both come down to the wire.

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Date: 2/11/2026 11:57:24
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2444591
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

In other news, a federal judge has thrown out the Justice Department’s lawsuit seeking to segregate ballots and delay certification of Alaska’s Senate race.

In essence the ruling states that the federal government has no standing in the case.

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Date: 2/11/2026 12:01:35
From: Cymek
ID: 2444593
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:

In other news, a federal judge has thrown out the Justice Department’s lawsuit seeking to segregate ballots and delay certification of Alaska’s Senate race.

In essence the ruling states that the federal government has no standing in the case.

So much messing around for an election.
Seems Trump tries to find ways to subvert or weaken the entire process and other try to bring it back to normality.
You’d think it was some third world nation on the cusp of becoming democratic after years of fascism

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Date: 2/11/2026 12:07:33
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2444597
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


diddly-squat said:

In other news, a federal judge has thrown out the Justice Department’s lawsuit seeking to segregate ballots and delay certification of Alaska’s Senate race.

In essence the ruling states that the federal government has no standing in the case.

So much messing around for an election.
Seems Trump tries to find ways to subvert or weaken the entire process and other try to bring it back to normality.
You’d think it was some third world nation on the cusp of becoming democratic after years of fascism

In fairness, the feds have the shits because the Dems recruited an independent candidate with the same name as the incumbent Republican, in an effort to siphon votes away from the GOP.

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Date: 2/11/2026 12:19:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2444601
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Cymek said:

diddly-squat said:

In other news, a federal judge has thrown out the Justice Department’s lawsuit seeking to segregate ballots and delay certification of Alaska’s Senate race.

In essence the ruling states that the federal government has no standing in the case.

So much messing around for an election.
Seems Trump tries to find ways to subvert or weaken the entire process and other try to bring it back to normality.
You’d think it was some third world nation on the cusp of becoming democratic after years of fascism

In fairness, the feds have the shits because the Dems recruited an independent candidate with the same name as the incumbent Republican, in an effort to siphon votes away from the GOP.

Two recent examples of the Republican party doing the same thing:

1. The 2020 Florida State Senate “Ghost Candidate” Scandal

In Florida’s 37th State Senate District race, former Republican State Senator Frank Artiles recruited an acquaintance named Alex Rodriguez to run as an independent candidate.

• The Strategy: The decoy candidate shared the exact same last name as the incumbent Democrat, José Javier Rodríguez. The objective was to confuse voters and siphon support away from the incumbent.

• The Outcome: The ghost candidate did no active campaigning but successfully drew more than 6,000 votes. This enabled the Republican candidate, Ileana Garcia, to win the seat by a razor-thin margin of just 32 votes. Artiles was later convicted of felony campaign finance violations related to secret payments made to the decoy candidate.

2. The 2024 Washington Gubernatorial Primary

During the 2024 primary election for governor in Washington state, a similar plan was put into motion to target the front-running Democrat.

• The Strategy: A conservative/Republican activist paid two separate individuals who happened to be named Bob Ferguson to enter the primary race. This was designed specifically to appear alongside the actual Democratic candidate, state Attorney General Bob Ferguson, and dilute his primary vote tally.

• The Outcome: The strategy unraveled publicly before ballots were finalized after the activist admitted to orchestrating the filings to cause voter confusion.
Election historians note that using “decoy namesakes” is an old political maneuver. While the act of a citizen running for office under their legal name is generally protected by state election laws, criminal prosecutions only tend to occur when investigators uncover illegal financing, fraud, or hidden cash payments behind the recruitment.

I’m not saying that what the Dems might be doing in Alaska is a good thing.

But, it’s pretty rich for Republicans to be saying it’s not right.

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Date: 2/11/2026 12:27:36
From: Michael V
ID: 2444602
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Cymek said:

diddly-squat said:

In other news, a federal judge has thrown out the Justice Department’s lawsuit seeking to segregate ballots and delay certification of Alaska’s Senate race.

In essence the ruling states that the federal government has no standing in the case.

So much messing around for an election.
Seems Trump tries to find ways to subvert or weaken the entire process and other try to bring it back to normality.
You’d think it was some third world nation on the cusp of becoming democratic after years of fascism

In fairness, the feds have the shits because the Dems recruited an independent candidate with the same name as the incumbent Republican, in an effort to siphon votes away from the GOP.

I have read that it’s not illegal, and is a regularly used Republican strategy. Some Republican was prosecuted for this strategy in Florida fairly recently, because he paid the person to stand, which is illegal.

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Date: 2/11/2026 12:31:32
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2444603
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


diddly-squat said:

Cymek said:

So much messing around for an election.
Seems Trump tries to find ways to subvert or weaken the entire process and other try to bring it back to normality.
You’d think it was some third world nation on the cusp of becoming democratic after years of fascism

In fairness, the feds have the shits because the Dems recruited an independent candidate with the same name as the incumbent Republican, in an effort to siphon votes away from the GOP.

Two recent examples of the Republican party doing the same thing:

1. The 2020 Florida State Senate “Ghost Candidate” Scandal

In Florida’s 37th State Senate District race, former Republican State Senator Frank Artiles recruited an acquaintance named Alex Rodriguez to run as an independent candidate.

• The Strategy: The decoy candidate shared the exact same last name as the incumbent Democrat, José Javier Rodríguez. The objective was to confuse voters and siphon support away from the incumbent.

• The Outcome: The ghost candidate did no active campaigning but successfully drew more than 6,000 votes. This enabled the Republican candidate, Ileana Garcia, to win the seat by a razor-thin margin of just 32 votes. Artiles was later convicted of felony campaign finance violations related to secret payments made to the decoy candidate.

2. The 2024 Washington Gubernatorial Primary

During the 2024 primary election for governor in Washington state, a similar plan was put into motion to target the front-running Democrat.

• The Strategy: A conservative/Republican activist paid two separate individuals who happened to be named Bob Ferguson to enter the primary race. This was designed specifically to appear alongside the actual Democratic candidate, state Attorney General Bob Ferguson, and dilute his primary vote tally.

• The Outcome: The strategy unraveled publicly before ballots were finalized after the activist admitted to orchestrating the filings to cause voter confusion.
Election historians note that using “decoy namesakes” is an old political maneuver. While the act of a citizen running for office under their legal name is generally protected by state election laws, criminal prosecutions only tend to occur when investigators uncover illegal financing, fraud, or hidden cash payments behind the recruitment.

I’m not saying that what the Dems might be doing in Alaska is a good thing.

But, it’s pretty rich for Republicans to be saying it’s not right.

I know, but it’s not as though hypocrisy and the GOP are strange bed fellows

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Date: 2/11/2026 13:49:15
From: kii
ID: 2444633
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee gives her final assessment of the ‘patient’ Trump ahead of the midterms.

Another excellent video.

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Date: 2/11/2026 13:55:21
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2444634
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Will the D’s win?

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Date: 2/11/2026 14:00:10
From: kii
ID: 2444636
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee gives her final assessment of the ‘patient’ Trump ahead of the midterms.

Another excellent video.

Dr Lee’s saying “elder abuse” regarding Trump, is exactly what I have been saying since 2016.

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Date: 2/11/2026 14:04:26
From: dv
ID: 2444639
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


Will the D’s win?

I think there’s a better than 95% chance they will control the House, and maybe an 80% they’ll control the Senate.

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Date: 2/11/2026 14:30:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2444642
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Will the D’s win?

I think there’s a better than 95% chance they will control the House, and maybe an 80% they’ll control the Senate.

I urge caution.

Robert Menzies advised Harold Holt that ‘one can never under-estimate the intelligence of the Australian voter’.

Looking at what happened in the US in 2024, i would say that that applies even more so to the American voter.

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Date: 2/11/2026 14:33:13
From: Cymek
ID: 2444643
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Will the D’s win?

I think there’s a better than 95% chance they will control the House, and maybe an 80% they’ll control the Senate.

I urge caution.

Robert Menzies advised Harold Holt that ‘one can never under-estimate the intelligence of the Australian voter’.

Looking at what happened in the US in 2024, i would say that that applies even more so to the American voter.

This is all assuming Trump goes quietly into the night when his times up

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Date: 2/11/2026 14:33:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2444645
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


kii said:

Psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee gives her final assessment of the ‘patient’ Trump ahead of the midterms.

Another excellent video.

Dr Lee’s saying “elder abuse” regarding Trump, is exactly what I have been saying since 2016.

Looks more like ‘elder self-abuse’ to me.

He’s the one who’s driven to keep himself in he job.

Also, he’s a wanker.

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Date: 2/11/2026 14:41:04
From: kii
ID: 2444647
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 2/11/2026 14:41:32
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2444648
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


captain_spalding said:

dv said:

I think there’s a better than 95% chance they will control the House, and maybe an 80% they’ll control the Senate.

I urge caution.

Robert Menzies advised Harold Holt that ‘one can never under-estimate the intelligence of the Australian voter’.

Looking at what happened in the US in 2024, i would say that that applies even more so to the American voter.

This is all assuming Trump goes quietly into the night when his times up

Assuming also that even the Republican Party is fed up to the back teeth with him after another two years of his shit, these are things that might happen:

Legal and political mechanisms for removal include:

25th Amendment: The incoming Vice President and Cabinet could declare him unable to discharge duties, or Congress could force the issue with a two-thirds vote.

Line of Succession: If the presidency is deemed vacant due to incapacity or removal, the next official in the line of succession (likely the Speaker of the House) would assume power.

Physical Removal: If all legal channels fail, the Secret Service or military would be obligated to remove him from the White House, as he would technically become a trespasser.

Speculative scenarios for circumvention involve:

Loyalist Proxy: Endorsing a loyal family member or ally as the 2028 nominee who then resigns to allow Trump to ascend via succession.

Vice-Presidential Run: Some legal scholars note the 22nd Amendment’s text does not explicitly ban a two-term president from running for Vice President, though this remains highly controversial and would likely trigger immediate litigation.

Martial Law/Coup: A more extreme scenario involves refusing to accept electoral defeat and imposing martial law, which political scientists warn would likely result in severe international sanctions, economic collapse, and potential civil unrest or war.

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Date: 2/11/2026 14:46:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2444650
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:



That’s no lady, that’s Dara O’Briain in a wig and eyebrow pencil.

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Date: 2/11/2026 15:09:22
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2444653
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Will the D’s win?

I think there’s a better than 95% chance they will control the House, and maybe an 80% they’ll control the Senate.

I urge caution.

Robert Menzies advised Harold Holt that ‘one can never under-estimate the intelligence of the Australian voter’.

Looking at what happened in the US in 2024, i would say that that applies even more so to the American voter.

I think what people have to mentally parse here is the idea that a thing that happens eight out of ten times doesn’t happen two out of ten times. That is something with a 20% chance of occurring isn’t all the uncommon.

The inherent issue here is the nature of the polling error and the fact that all the key states are sitting within this error margin.

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Date: 2/11/2026 15:14:28
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2444655
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

I urge caution.

Robert Menzies advised Harold Holt that ‘one can never under-estimate the intelligence of the Australian voter’.

Looking at what happened in the US in 2024, i would say that that applies even more so to the American voter.

This is all assuming Trump goes quietly into the night when his times up

Assuming also that even the Republican Party is fed up to the back teeth with him after another two years of his shit, these are things that might happen:

Legal and political mechanisms for removal include:

25th Amendment: The incoming Vice President and Cabinet could declare him unable to discharge duties, or Congress could force the issue with a two-thirds vote.

Line of Succession: If the presidency is deemed vacant due to incapacity or removal, the next official in the line of succession (likely the Speaker of the House) would assume power.

Physical Removal: If all legal channels fail, the Secret Service or military would be obligated to remove him from the White House, as he would technically become a trespasser.

Speculative scenarios for circumvention involve:

Loyalist Proxy: Endorsing a loyal family member or ally as the 2028 nominee who then resigns to allow Trump to ascend via succession.

Vice-Presidential Run: Some legal scholars note the 22nd Amendment’s text does not explicitly ban a two-term president from running for Vice President, though this remains highly controversial and would likely trigger immediate litigation.

Martial Law/Coup: A more extreme scenario involves refusing to accept electoral defeat and imposing martial law, which political scientists warn would likely result in severe international sanctions, economic collapse, and potential civil unrest or war.

I think the most likely scenario is that Trump spends the rest of his term trying to fill his shopping trolley to the very top before exiting stage left in two years time and pardoning himself and everyone around him on the way out.

There is of course the chance the Trump dies during this time, but outside of this he won’t be removed (it’s unlikely the Dems will have the numbers to do this and in any case I think it’s bad politics), he won’t run again, there won’t be a national uprising, there won’t be a civil war and there won’t be a military coup.

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Date: 2/11/2026 15:22:10
From: Cymek
ID: 2444657
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

This is all assuming Trump goes quietly into the night when his times up

Assuming also that even the Republican Party is fed up to the back teeth with him after another two years of his shit, these are things that might happen:

Legal and political mechanisms for removal include:

25th Amendment: The incoming Vice President and Cabinet could declare him unable to discharge duties, or Congress could force the issue with a two-thirds vote.

Line of Succession: If the presidency is deemed vacant due to incapacity or removal, the next official in the line of succession (likely the Speaker of the House) would assume power.

Physical Removal: If all legal channels fail, the Secret Service or military would be obligated to remove him from the White House, as he would technically become a trespasser.

Speculative scenarios for circumvention involve:

Loyalist Proxy: Endorsing a loyal family member or ally as the 2028 nominee who then resigns to allow Trump to ascend via succession.

Vice-Presidential Run: Some legal scholars note the 22nd Amendment’s text does not explicitly ban a two-term president from running for Vice President, though this remains highly controversial and would likely trigger immediate litigation.

Martial Law/Coup: A more extreme scenario involves refusing to accept electoral defeat and imposing martial law, which political scientists warn would likely result in severe international sanctions, economic collapse, and potential civil unrest or war.

I think the most likely scenario is that Trump spends the rest of his term trying to fill his shopping trolley to the very top before exiting stage left in two years time and pardoning himself and everyone around him on the way out.

There is of course the chance the Trump dies during this time, but outside of this he won’t be removed (it’s unlikely the Dems will have the numbers to do this and in any case I think it’s bad politics), he won’t run again, there won’t be a national uprising, there won’t be a civil war and there won’t be a military coup.

Probably take a decade for various allies to have confidence in the USA as a worthy partner once more, assuming we don’t get some sort of Humperdoo Trump as the new president

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Date: 2/11/2026 15:26:11
From: kii
ID: 2444658
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

“…bad politics…”?

WTF?

Bad politics is continuing down this hell road without doing what their precious Constitution allows.

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Date: 2/11/2026 15:46:00
From: kii
ID: 2444662
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

So many dumb (with a b) people.

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Date: 2/11/2026 17:49:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2444675
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

Assuming also that even the Republican Party is fed up to the back teeth with him after another two years of his shit, these are things that might happen:

Legal and political mechanisms for removal include:

25th Amendment: The incoming Vice President and Cabinet could declare him unable to discharge duties, or Congress could force the issue with a two-thirds vote.

Line of Succession: If the presidency is deemed vacant due to incapacity or removal, the next official in the line of succession (likely the Speaker of the House) would assume power.

Physical Removal: If all legal channels fail, the Secret Service or military would be obligated to remove him from the White House, as he would technically become a trespasser.

Speculative scenarios for circumvention involve:

Loyalist Proxy: Endorsing a loyal family member or ally as the 2028 nominee who then resigns to allow Trump to ascend via succession.

Vice-Presidential Run: Some legal scholars note the 22nd Amendment’s text does not explicitly ban a two-term president from running for Vice President, though this remains highly controversial and would likely trigger immediate litigation.

Martial Law/Coup: A more extreme scenario involves refusing to accept electoral defeat and imposing martial law, which political scientists warn would likely result in severe international sanctions, economic collapse, and potential civil unrest or war.

I think the most likely scenario is that Trump spends the rest of his term trying to fill his shopping trolley to the very top before exiting stage left in two years time and pardoning himself and everyone around him on the way out.

There is of course the chance the Trump dies during this time, but outside of this he won’t be removed (it’s unlikely the Dems will have the numbers to do this and in any case I think it’s bad politics), he won’t run again, there won’t be a national uprising, there won’t be a civil war and there won’t be a military coup.

Probably take a decade for various allies to have confidence in the USA as a worthy partner once more, assuming we don’t get some sort of Humperdoo Trump as the new president

‘sif, everyone loves giving fascists a free pass to be allies, they wouldn’t really ever have lost confidence

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Date: 2/11/2026 17:53:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 2444677
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 2/11/2026 17:59:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2444682
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


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Date: 2/11/2026 18:00:58
From: Arts
ID: 2444683
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:



diabolical

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Date: 2/11/2026 18:03:07
From: Michael V
ID: 2444685
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:



Don’t jump to the wrong conclusion.

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Date: 2/11/2026 18:05:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2444689
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Arts said:

roughbarked said:


diabolical

so he actually caused them to stop rising and level out

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Date: 2/11/2026 18:06:15
From: Cymek
ID: 2444690
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:


Poor Boba even in his series he was overshadowed by The Mandolorian

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Date: 2/11/2026 18:07:11
From: Cymek
ID: 2444691
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:


Don’t jump to the wrong conclusion.

Rising coffee prices created the Trump, like how Autism creates vaccines

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Date: 2/11/2026 18:11:07
From: Michael V
ID: 2444692
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:


Don’t jump to the wrong conclusion.

Rising coffee prices created the Trump, like how Autism creates vaccines

I think they are likely to be independent events. Correlation =/= causation.

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Date: 2/11/2026 18:32:24
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2444695
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:



That did liberate prices.

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Date: 2/11/2026 18:43:39
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2444702
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:


Jango Fett’s favourite Mandalorian drink and rare expensive fetta cheese from Tatooine?

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Date: 2/11/2026 22:52:16
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2444764
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Avenger air defense systems positioned on a floating barge just outside his private resort.

These are military weapons designed to shoot down aircraft, drones, and incoming threats. Additional systems
have also been deployed at the nearby airport. The Secret Service says it’s operating in a “heightened threat environment,”
although officials haven’t identified a specific threat behind the deployment.

The added security comes amid the U.S. conflict with Iran, and the Secret Service is also seeking permanent restrictions
on airspace around Trump’s property.

We’re now at the point where the president’s private club has military missile launchers floating outside.

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Date: 2/11/2026 22:57:19
From: Kingy
ID: 2444765
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ChrispenEvan said:


Avenger air defense systems positioned on a floating barge just outside his private resort.

These are military weapons designed to shoot down aircraft, drones, and incoming threats. Additional systems
have also been deployed at the nearby airport. The Secret Service says it’s operating in a “heightened threat environment,”
although officials haven’t identified a specific threat behind the deployment.

The added security comes amid the U.S. conflict with Iran, and the Secret Service is also seeking permanent restrictions
on airspace around Trump’s property.

We’re now at the point where the president’s private club has military missile launchers floating outside.

And the question is: Did they take down a private jet that was flying over Florida?

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Date: 2/11/2026 23:02:40
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2444766
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ChrispenEvan said:


Avenger air defense systems positioned on a floating barge just outside his private resort.

These are military weapons designed to shoot down aircraft, drones, and incoming threats. Additional systems
have also been deployed at the nearby airport. The Secret Service says it’s operating in a “heightened threat environment,”
although officials haven’t identified a specific threat behind the deployment.

The added security comes amid the U.S. conflict with Iran, and the Secret Service is also seeking permanent restrictions
on airspace around Trump’s property.

We’re now at the point where the president’s private club has military missile launchers floating outside.

If it’s any consolation, they can just as easily be used to shoot down helicopters arriving at or departing from Mar-A-Lago.

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Date: 3/11/2026 07:46:43
From: ms spock
ID: 2444788
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Psychiatrist Dr Bandy Lee returns for her final assessment on the dangerousness of Donald Trump as the Midterm results are likely to isolate him further, leading to ever more violent executive action.

Link

Something to listen whilst weeding or some other equivalent task.

1:08:38

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Date: 3/11/2026 08:17:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2444792
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

another country, saving the world again

You cannot fire scientists, halt ongoing research and clinical trials, drive away the next generation and then declare a “golden age” of American science. These cannot fundamentally coexist.

As we head into the elections here is a breakdown breakdown of the damage done to the U.S. scientific ecosystem so far:

Defense research labs lost roughly 14% of their staff. The Pentagon itself warned of “potentially grave consequences for the future of national defense.”

NIH staffing fell by 1/5. More than 2,000 biomedical research grants were delayed or canceled, affecting work on cancer, Alzheimer’s and other major diseases affecting the health of American public.

HHS announced a wind-down of mRNA vaccine development at BARDA, affecting 22 projects worth nearly $500 million through cancellations, cuts and restructuring and halting new mRNA projects under the program.

The National Science Foundation lost roughly 1/3 of its staff and withheld more than $1 billion in funding.

The Energy Department lost more than 1,000 scientists and technical staff. Grant awards from its two major science offices fell by more than $500 million during the administration’s first year.

NASA lost 20% of its employees with Ph.Ds.

Foreign Ph.D. applications at leading universities fell 21%. Schools reduced admissions as funding uncertainty made it harder to support future scientists and removing a pathway for sustaining scientific excellence globally.

Meanwhile, a proposed rule would give political appointees greater control over who receives research funding, screening applications for supposedly “anti-American values.”

Thankfully Congress rejected the massive proposed budget cuts and courts forced funding restorations. But neither can replace the time and investment already made. We can’t just simply flip the switch back on.

And while the federal government can still spend roughly $200 billion on research – we continue to witness the dismantling of the capacity to turn funding into discovery.

And make no mistake – other countries are happy to step in – including China – who are recruiting the talent we are losing.

The treatments we will need in 20 years depend on the research we conduct today. So do our security, our prosperity and our ability to maintain our lead globally.

Vote tomorrow because science depends on it.

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Date: 3/11/2026 08:52:49
From: ms spock
ID: 2444795
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

John Oliver on the mid-terms

Link

2 minutes

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Date: 3/11/2026 12:11:55
From: ms spock
ID: 2444832
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Educational levels in the US.

Link

2 minutes

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Date: 3/11/2026 12:23:33
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2444838
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump says he wouldn’t have dropped agent orange on the forests, instead he’d have bombed Ho Chi MInh City.
Which is former Saigong.

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Date: 3/11/2026 12:44:08
From: Michael V
ID: 2444846
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Peak Warming Man said:


Trump says he wouldn’t have dropped agent orange on the forests, instead he’d have bombed Ho Chi MInh City.
Which is former Saigong.

That would’ve been a huge own goal. Lots of US deaths if that’d happened.

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Date: 3/11/2026 13:54:31
From: dv
ID: 2444874
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/donald-trump-jr-says-democrats-222848272.html

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Date: 3/11/2026 13:55:49
From: Cymek
ID: 2444877
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/donald-trump-jr-says-democrats-222848272.html


He looks wasted

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Date: 3/11/2026 13:58:59
From: kii
ID: 2444881
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


dv said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/donald-trump-jr-says-democrats-222848272.html


He looks wasted

He IS wasted.

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Date: 3/11/2026 14:02:53
From: Woodie
ID: 2444882
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Cymek said:


dv said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/donald-trump-jr-says-democrats-222848272.html


He looks wasted

The whole place is wasted.

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Date: 3/11/2026 14:30:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2444888
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/donald-trump-jr-says-democrats-222848272.html


He looks wasted

He IS wasted.

His struggle with cocaine is going to make such heart-rending reading when he finds a good ghost-writer for his book.

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Date: 3/11/2026 15:27:47
From: Michael V
ID: 2444899
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Woodie said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/donald-trump-jr-says-democrats-222848272.html


He looks wasted

The whole place is wasted.

Ha!

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Date: 3/11/2026 18:11:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2444953
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

kii said:

Cymek said:

He looks wasted

He IS wasted.

His struggle with cocaine is going to make such heart-rending reading when he finds a good ghost-writer for his book.

yeah but how bad is hunter

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Date: 3/11/2026 18:20:00
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2444955
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

kii said:

He IS wasted.

His struggle with cocaine is going to make such heart-rending reading when he finds a good ghost-writer for his book.

yeah but how bad is hunter

worser than brendon!

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Date: 3/11/2026 18:23:03
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2444957
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 3/11/2026 18:30:49
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2444959
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

kii said:

He IS wasted.

His struggle with cocaine is going to make such heart-rending reading when he finds a good ghost-writer for his book.

yeah but how bad is hunter

OWTH

Officially Worse Than Hitler.

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Date: 3/11/2026 18:31:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2444960
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ChrispenEvan said:



Making sure that no-one cheats by making sure that no-one votes?

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Date: 3/11/2026 20:26:37
From: dv
ID: 2444991
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 3/11/2026 22:10:38
From: dv
ID: 2445020
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1E3ypMmUdX/

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Date: 4/11/2026 00:18:05
From: kii
ID: 2445043
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump talking about pool maintenance at the Reflecting Pool before the midterms.

😆 🤣 😂 😹

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Date: 4/11/2026 01:12:21
From: dv
ID: 2445044
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Yz6rDCrNp/

Why Tech CEO’s have to promote fake products

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Date: 4/11/2026 08:05:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 2445052
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Will this gambit change the way they vote? If so it is a desperate last minute gambit.
US midterms briefing: Trump says US will stop $5.7b in aid to Israel in surprise announcement
By Elissa Fitzgerald with wires

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Date: 4/11/2026 11:42:31
From: dv
ID: 2445089
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 4/11/2026 12:25:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2445112
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

turns out it really is an other country’s mind control virus

https://x.com/Globalbiosec/status/2117760425567961553

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Date: 6/11/2026 11:55:40
From: dv
ID: 2445884
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Wait … is DJT cutting aid to Israel as punishment for ousting Netanyahu?

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Date: 6/11/2026 12:01:22
From: Cymek
ID: 2445890
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Wait … is DJT cutting aid to Israel as punishment for ousting Netanyahu?

From one fascist to another, “I got your back Jack”

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Date: 6/11/2026 12:01:57
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2445891
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Wait … is DJT cutting aid to Israel as punishment for ousting Netanyahu?

I think it was just a ploy to increase turnout amongst Groypers.

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Date: 6/11/2026 12:03:42
From: dv
ID: 2445893
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

Wait … is DJT cutting aid to Israel as punishment for ousting Netanyahu?

I think it was just a ploy to increase turnout amongst Groypers.

Man is playing 4-dementia chest

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Date: 6/11/2026 12:04:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2445894
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Wait … is DJT cutting aid to Israel as punishment for ousting Netanyahu?

Maybe punishing liberal Jews in the US media, who knows.

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Date: 6/11/2026 12:09:19
From: kii
ID: 2445901
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

Wait … is DJT cutting aid to Israel as punishment for ousting Netanyahu?

I think it was just a ploy to increase turnout amongst Groypers.

Man is playing 4-dementia chest

🤣😹 lol@dv
Very good, very good!

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Date: 6/11/2026 12:16:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2445906
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I think it was just a ploy to increase turnout amongst Groypers.

Man is playing 4-dementia chest

🤣😹 lol@dv
Very good, very good!

+1

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Date: 6/11/2026 12:20:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2445909
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

LOL

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-06/wall-street-sees-tech-sell-off-as-investors-rethink-ai-trade/107354110

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Euphoria met with raw fear as shares nosedived on Wall Street overnight. Technology stocks were the hardest hit, with the NASDAQ plunging 6.3 per cent. But the losses were widespread as the benchmark S&P 500 dived 4.3 per cent. The selling on all three of Wall Street’s main indices was unrelenting, and it accelerated throughout the session, “with the euphoria of Wednesday’s post-election rally rapidly evaporating”, according to Tapas Strickland from trading platform Moomoo.

the great redistribution begins

The thinking on election day was that it would be better managed under a Democrat-controlled Congress — that it would slow down to a point that major players such as OpenAI and Anthropic would be able to pay for their investments with cash rather than debt or equity (shares). That thinking turned on its head overnight. “What is clear is the Democrats’ election victory is the motivation,” Strickland said. “Investors believe their control of Congress and key states fundamentally alters the outlook for the artificial intelligence sector due to voters’ rejection of data centre developments in dozens of local ballots.”

LOL

Montgomery Investment Management’s Roger Montgomery thinks some air has been let out of the AI tech bubble. “The latest technology bubble is meeting the same fate as previous bubbles,” he said. “Hype that leads to overproduction and overpricing is hitting the physical reality of limited resources and the financial reality of inferior returns on the trillions spent.”

we mean yes

The Australian share market is dominated by banking and mining stocks, so the flow-on effect to local investors seems muted at the time of writing this.

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Date: 7/11/2026 14:30:13
From: dv
ID: 2446416
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 8/11/2026 11:46:05
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2446634
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Donald Trump has asked Dana White, the president and CEO of Ultimate Fighting Championship to be his new press secretary

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Date: 8/11/2026 12:03:58
From: kii
ID: 2446641
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

diddly-squat said:


Donald Trump has asked Dana White, the president and CEO of Ultimate Fighting Championship to be his new press secretary

Yes dear, we know. This has already been discussed in the forum.

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Date: 8/11/2026 12:10:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2446644
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


diddly-squat said:

Donald Trump has asked Dana White, the president and CEO of Ultimate Fighting Championship to be his new press secretary

Yes dear, we know. This has already been discussed in the forum.

Anyone know when Dana premieres in the Press Room?

In terms of comedy/farce, it ought to be worth a guinea a minute.

They could do a whole programme of acts.

Karoline Leavitt could come on, and explain why the Sun actually rises in the west, and that rhinoceroses really can fly, because Trump said so, and that you’re stupid and unpatriotic for not agreeing.

Katie Zacharia can follow, doing her impressions of being a lawyer.

Then Dana can close the show with his imitations of a fish out ofwater.

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Date: 8/11/2026 19:15:51
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2446784
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Trump Reportedly Confused a Former Pentagon Spokesperson With UFC’s Dana White, Then Picked the Fighter Anyway

Word is spreading that Donald Trump’s pick for White House press secretary started with a mix-up.

An aide recommended Dana W. White.

Trump offered the job to UFC boss Dana White instead.

Read that again.

Dana W. White isn’t just some random person with the same name. She was the Pentagon’s chief spokesperson under Defense Secretary Jim Mattis. She served as the Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, running communications, media relations and public outreach for the entire Department of Defense.

She has stood at a podium and briefed the press on the most powerful military in the world.

In other words, she’s done the job.

The Dana White Trump picked runs fight nights.

And even if Trump realized the difference, he went with the UFC boss anyway. He called him “a violent Fighter and Warrior” and asked him to bring cage fighters along as “assistants” to “defend us against the Lunatic Left.”

Think about that.

The White House hasn’t had a real press secretary since August. Trump had a qualified name handed to him, someone who actually knows how to speak for the government.

He chose the guy who brings muscle.

Now UFC’s Dana White is already posting a photo of himself at the briefing room podium captioned “On to the next chapter,” while nobody inside the White House will even say whether this is serious.

This is how the most powerful office in the world is being run right now.

A qualified Dana White was right there, and Trump picked the one who throws punches.

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Date: 8/11/2026 19:21:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2446787
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ChrispenEvan said:

And even if Trump realized the difference, he went with the UFC boss anyway. He called him “a violent Fighter and Warrior” and asked him to bring cage fighters along as “assistants” to “defend us against the Lunatic Left.”

Think about that.

As i said earlier, the show ought to be worth a guinea a minute.

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Date: 8/11/2026 20:39:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2446811
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ChrispenEvan said:

Trump Reportedly Confused a Former Pentagon Spokesperson With UFC’s Dana White, Then Picked the Fighter Anyway

Word is spreading that Donald Trump’s pick for White House press secretary started with a mix-up.

An aide recommended Dana W. White.

Trump offered the job to UFC boss Dana White instead.

Read that again.

Dana W. White isn’t just some random person with the same name. She was the Pentagon’s chief spokesperson under Defense Secretary Jim Mattis. She served as the Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, running communications, media relations and public outreach for the entire Department of Defense.

She has stood at a podium and briefed the press on the most powerful military in the world.

In other words, she’s done the job.

The Dana White Trump picked runs fight nights.

And even if Trump realized the difference, he went with the UFC boss anyway. He called him “a violent Fighter and Warrior” and asked him to bring cage fighters along as “assistants” to “defend us against the Lunatic Left.”

Think about that.

The White House hasn’t had a real press secretary since August. Trump had a qualified name handed to him, someone who actually knows how to speak for the government.

He chose the guy who brings muscle.

Now UFC’s Dana White is already posting a photo of himself at the briefing room podium captioned “On to the next chapter,” while nobody inside the White House will even say whether this is serious.

This is how the most powerful office in the world is being run right now.

A qualified Dana White was right there, and Trump picked the one who throws punches.

sounds suspiciously like 跟爱 but nonirregardless is that the punch line

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Date: 9/11/2026 08:27:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2446866
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kkk

what a legend

saving the world again

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-09/iran-conflict-strengthens-case-or-electrification/107351224

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-08/snow-falls-parts-of-nsw-after-strong-cold-front/107361014

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Date: 9/11/2026 12:20:05
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2446924
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

There’s word Marco Rubio might be jumping ship…

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Date: 10/11/2026 08:23:02
From: dv
ID: 2447044
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.upi.com/amp/Top_News/US/2026/11/09/massie-introduces-impeachment-articles-against-hegseth-again/1611794256325/

Nov. 9 (UPI) — Rep. Thomas Massie, (Republican-Kentucky), introduced articles of impeachment against Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Monday over the U.S. war on Iran. A House vote on the articles could happen this week.

Massie originally introduced impeachment articles against Hegseth in September, but Speaker of the House Mike Johnson dismissed lawmakers early, avoiding a vote on the issue before the midterm elections. Now that they have been reintroduced, Republican leaders have two days to schedule a vote.

—-
https://www.threads.com/share/BApPo0KXPW

Massie: “I hope Hegseth addresses the 8 articles of impeachment, and doesn‘t get up and misquote the Bible in Quentin Tarantino fashion and do some pull-ups and call everybody fat and gay. I may have just given you half his speech, I don’t know.”

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Date: 10/11/2026 09:13:19
From: Michael V
ID: 2447055
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:

https://www.upi.com/amp/Top_News/US/2026/11/09/massie-introduces-impeachment-articles-against-hegseth-again/1611794256325/

Nov. 9 (UPI) — Rep. Thomas Massie, (Republican-Kentucky), introduced articles of impeachment against Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Monday over the U.S. war on Iran. A House vote on the articles could happen this week.

Massie originally introduced impeachment articles against Hegseth in September, but Speaker of the House Mike Johnson dismissed lawmakers early, avoiding a vote on the issue before the midterm elections. Now that they have been reintroduced, Republican leaders have two days to schedule a vote.

—-
https://www.threads.com/share/BApPo0KXPW

Massie: “I hope Hegseth addresses the 8 articles of impeachment, and doesn‘t get up and misquote the Bible in Quentin Tarantino fashion and do some pull-ups and call everybody fat and gay. I may have just given you half his speech, I don’t know.”

:)

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Date: 10/11/2026 10:28:41
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2447070
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

From George Will, one of the few actual conservative intellectuals deserving of the name, on what he thinks of JD Vance:

…

President JD Vance? More slogging through a sewer of odious politics.
Temperate Americans of all political stripes should unite to stymie the vice president’s ambitions.

November 6, 2026
George Will

With an urgency commensurate with the stakes, temperate Americans of all political persuasions, but especially conservatives, should act together to implement this proposition: JD Vance’s ambitions must be stymied.

His 2026 campaigning, frenetic and futile, lowered the tone everywhere, left wreckage in his wake and underscored this: He represents a potential four-year prolongation of the nation’s slog through a sewer of scabrous rhetoric serving odious politics. His removal from politics is a necessary precondition for beginning to affirmatively answer two inseparable questions:

Will America have a conservative party? And will there be a continuing national revulsion against what the formerly conservative party dispensed this year?

Consider Vance on Vivek Ramaswamy’s repellent ad. It featured Ramaswamy’s opponent’s estranged mother implying that her daughter lies about having been sexually molested at age 12 by her stepfather. Her brother says she is truthful.

By joining the bipartisan denunciations of this, Vance could have demonstrated limits to his plasticity and indecency. Evidently there are none. He was “disgusted,” but by Republicans “whining” about an ad that “calls it out like it is.” His blinkered partisanship (he celebrated Ramaswamy’s “audacity” in running the ad) reinforced his chest-thumping roughneck persona (politics, he said, is a “tough business”).

Of course he did. Although he knew the 2024 tales of Haitian immigrants eating Ohio pets were lies, he spread them because such “stories” serve the virtuous purpose of calling attention to “the suffering of the American people.” He has taken Plato’s concept of a “noble lie” — one that harms no one and serves some good — and emptied out the nobility. Lies that serve Vance’s politics are sanctified.

Speaking of his aversion to actual nobility: He says Tucker Carlson (Putin fanboy, Hitler apologist, Churchill disparager, megaphone for Holocaust denial) is his friend, therefore Carlson belongs in the conservative movement. Vance said he will not throw Carlson “under the bus,” because a Vance virtue is acknowledgment of his debts: Carlson ardently lobbied Donald Trump to make Vance his running mate.

With canine devotion, Vance laces his rhetoric with profanities like his master’s. Trump on Norway (because he has not been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize): “Norway sucks. Norway has become a shithouse country.” Today’s column will not further the coarsening of politics by repeating here similar Vance vulgarities it has hitherto reported.

Vance’s full disclosure of himself has given 2028 voters an avalanche of pertinent information about his temperament. And about his policy formulations. They belong in fortune cookies for simpletons: “A million cheap, knockoff toasters aren’t worth the price of a single American manufacturing job.”

The inability to be embarrassed is an awesome political asset. Vance the campaigner illustrated this by invoking the specter of Democrats’ “socialism” while representing an administration that has taken equity stakes in (by the Cato Institute’s count) 41 companies, so far.

The parameters of conservatism are, in any era, contestable. There are, however, fixed points: limited government, the rule of law, largely free enterprise. And, always, this:

A president’s character counts because the nation cannot count on the sufficiency of the Constitution’s Madisonian ingenuity. The separation of powers, congressional primacy (if Congress will assert it) and judicial review will not constrain a president who can act more quickly and nimbly than those who would restrain him, and who lacks a constitutional conscience.

Speaking of that, this year, Vance, who was born 10 years after Richard M. Nixon’s presidency collapsed, scoffed at the seriousness of Watergate. The burglary and its aftermath, the lying and cover-ups, would be “like a 12-hour news story” if it happened today.

Beneath such adolescent naughtiness, his attempted edginess reveals a grotesque integrity: He refuses to bend beneath the weight of facts. We have been warned. President Vance would consider suborning perjury and attempting to enlist the FBI and CIA in obstructing justice, mere boys-will-be-boys peccadillos.

If Vance is the Republicans’ 2028 presidential nominee, for 12 years the party will have been led by people uninterested in, and inimical to, the policies and manners of conservatism, intelligently understood. If you think America would be fine without a truly conservative party, look around. We are there.

Trump’s deepening weirdness (e.g., repeatedly proclaiming his admiration for various men’s and women’s body parts) suggests he is residing in the suburbs of dotage. Vance has no such excuse. The Constitution guarantees that the president will soon be just a fragrant memory. Scrubbing Vance’s stain from the nation’s life is for citizens to do — a unifying project for beginning to end this age of acrimony.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/11/06/jd-vance-presidential-ambitions-must-be-stymied-by-temperate-americans/

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Date: 10/11/2026 10:59:02
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2447074
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Personally I think Chuck Schumer should gracefully pass on the baton to someone younger.

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Date: 10/11/2026 11:13:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2447076
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Personally I think Chuck Schumer should gracefully pass on the baton to someone younger.

Born in 1950?

A mere lad, almost as young as me.

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Date: 10/11/2026 11:19:32
From: dv
ID: 2447077
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Massie is a libertarian but I can’t deny he is spitting straight fire today.

Massie argued that the administration had used what he called a “shaky legal scaffolding” to justify successive military operations as separate actions rather than one continuing conflict. “The law is on the books that Pete Hegseth is obligated to follow the laws on the books, not the laws that he wants to follow,” Massie said.

Massie further criticized Hegseth’s decision to dismantle a Pentagon function responsible for preventing civilian casualties, linking it to the bombing of a girls’ school in Iran on the first day of the war. “There’s no fog of war on the first day,” Massie said. “You’ve had months to identify these targets and pick them.”

He also accused Hegseth of putting American service members at risk through military operations that he said violated international norms of warfare. “When you go back for a second kill on people who are clinging to wreckage, you’re encouraging our adversaries to do the same,” Massie said, referring to allegations involving U.S. strikes against vessels in the Caribbean and eastern Pacific.

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Date: 10/11/2026 11:37:52
From: dv
ID: 2447081
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://nypost.com/2026/11/09/us-news/katie-zacharia-auditioning-again-for-press-secretary-in-white-house-stunner-sources/


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Mama didn’t raise no quitter

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Date: 10/11/2026 11:39:09
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2447083
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


Personally I think Chuck Schumer should gracefully pass on the baton to someone younger.

or even just someone that is more articulate and has an actual personality

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Date: 10/11/2026 11:42:44
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2447086
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://nypost.com/2026/11/09/us-news/katie-zacharia-auditioning-again-for-press-secretary-in-white-house-stunner-sources/


—-

Mama didn’t raise no quitter

The problem the administration will have now is that even lickspittle Trump loyalists understand that the ship is sinking and even they want a chance of a political career post 28

gonna be a tough ol’ lame duck session me thinks

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Date: 10/11/2026 12:04:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447105
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 10/11/2026 12:18:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447115
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

so rapist is good for president, and fascist is good for millionmillionaire deity, but consensual relations with someone from the other country is bad bad bad, makes sense

Nvidia and its CEO Jensen Huang have been sued ‌in a ‌proposed class action accusing them ‌of ⁠defrauding ‌shareholders. Nvidia shares tumbled after the company opened an investigation into Mr Huang’s ties ‌with a ⁠suspected Chinese spy. Donald Trump ​says the ‌FBI is looking ‌into ​the ⁠affair.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/nvidia-share-price-falls-ceo-jensen-huang-investigated/107366868

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Date: 10/11/2026 12:20:27
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2447118
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

so rapist is good for president, and fascist is good for millionmillionaire deity, but consensual relations with someone from the other country is bad bad bad, makes sense

Nvidia and its CEO Jensen Huang have been sued ‌in a ‌proposed class action accusing them ‌of ⁠defrauding ‌shareholders. Nvidia shares tumbled after the company opened an investigation into Mr Huang’s ties ‌with a ⁠suspected Chinese spy. Donald Trump ​says the ‌FBI is looking ‌into ​the ⁠affair.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/nvidia-share-price-falls-ceo-jensen-huang-investigated/107366868

Poor guy, he thought the Chinese cutie had fallen for him just because of his rugged good looks and debonair charm.

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Date: 10/11/2026 12:23:23
From: ruby
ID: 2447122
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

so rapist is good for president, and fascist is good for millionmillionaire deity, but consensual relations with someone from the other country is bad bad bad, makes sense

Nvidia and its CEO Jensen Huang have been sued ‌in a ‌proposed class action accusing them ‌of ⁠defrauding ‌shareholders. Nvidia shares tumbled after the company opened an investigation into Mr Huang’s ties ‌with a ⁠suspected Chinese spy. Donald Trump ​says the ‌FBI is looking ‌into ​the ⁠affair.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/nvidia-share-price-falls-ceo-jensen-huang-investigated/107366868

Poor guy, he thought the Chinese cutie had fallen for him just because of his rugged good looks and debonair charm.

Blokes shouldn’t hold positions of power, they are way too emotional. It’s their hormones y’know…

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Date: 10/11/2026 12:25:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 2447124
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ruby said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

so rapist is good for president, and fascist is good for millionmillionaire deity, but consensual relations with someone from the other country is bad bad bad, makes sense

Nvidia and its CEO Jensen Huang have been sued ‌in a ‌proposed class action accusing them ‌of ⁠defrauding ‌shareholders. Nvidia shares tumbled after the company opened an investigation into Mr Huang’s ties ‌with a ⁠suspected Chinese spy. Donald Trump ​says the ‌FBI is looking ‌into ​the ⁠affair.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/nvidia-share-price-falls-ceo-jensen-huang-investigated/107366868

Poor guy, he thought the Chinese cutie had fallen for him just because of his rugged good looks and debonair charm.

Blokes shouldn’t hold positions of power, they are way too emotional. It’s their hormones y’know…

:)

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Date: 10/11/2026 12:25:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447126
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ruby said:

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

so rapist is good for president, and fascist is good for millionmillionaire deity, but consensual relations with someone from the other country is bad bad bad, makes sense

Nvidia and its CEO Jensen Huang have been sued ‌in a ‌proposed class action accusing them ‌of ⁠defrauding ‌shareholders. Nvidia shares tumbled after the company opened an investigation into Mr Huang’s ties ‌with a ⁠suspected Chinese spy. Donald Trump ​says the ‌FBI is looking ‌into ​the ⁠affair.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/nvidia-share-price-falls-ceo-jensen-huang-investigated/107366868

Poor guy, he thought the Chinese cutie had fallen for him just because of his rugged good looks and debonair charm.

Blokes shouldn’t hold positions of power, they are way too emotional. It’s their hormones y’know…

LOL but ^ +1 this

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Date: 10/11/2026 13:58:21
From: kii
ID: 2447193
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Thomas Massie: Pete Hegseth schedules news conference on impeachment articles .

Oooo…chef’s kiss. Especially the Quentin Tarantino reference.

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Date: 10/11/2026 14:02:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447195
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

ruby said:

captain_spalding said:

Poor guy, he thought the Chinese cutie had fallen for him just because of his rugged good looks and debonair charm.

Blokes shouldn’t hold positions of power, they are way too emotional. It’s their hormones y’know…

LOL but ^ +1 this

alleged

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Date: 10/11/2026 17:35:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447297
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

Thomas Massie: Pete Hegseth schedules news conference on impeachment articles .

Oooo…chef’s kiss. Especially the Quentin Tarantino reference.

impeach the apricot

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Date: 10/11/2026 18:19:30
From: ms spock
ID: 2447319
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Dr Bandy X Lee’s who edited The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump and the updated version.

Gives an Update on the Presidential Psychiatric Emergency.
(7th of November 2026)

Link

6 minutes

She’s stood by “The Duty to Warn” right from the beginning.

She makes all her videos free and not behind a pay wall.

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Date: 10/11/2026 18:22:46
From: kii
ID: 2447324
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Dr Bandy X Lee’s who edited The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump and the updated version.

Gives an Update on the Presidential Psychiatric Emergency.
(7th of November 2026)

Link

6 minutes

She’s stood by “The Duty to Warn” right from the beginning.

She makes all her videos free and not behind a pay wall.

I was thinking about her earlier. Thanks for this link.

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Date: 10/11/2026 19:40:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447352
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

alleged

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Date: 10/11/2026 21:25:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 2447375
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

alleged


It is more that they are scared of it happening to them and they want us to watch the Pacific.

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Date: 10/11/2026 21:43:20
From: Ian
ID: 2447383
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Have we seen Jon Stewart yet

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Date: 10/11/2026 23:25:03
From: dv
ID: 2447446
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 10/11/2026 23:33:07
From: Kingy
ID: 2447448
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Me too.

Apart from not running for office, & not being in the US, or a US citizen, I lost too.

It has to be fraud.

It’s the Mexican immigrants that have stolen the election.

Arrests are coming.

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Date: 10/11/2026 23:37:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2447451
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



Only if ‘monumental stupidity’ is made a crime.

In which case, Marisa had better pack a bag.

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Date: 10/11/2026 23:39:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2447452
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:

Only if ‘monumental stupidity’ is made a crime.

In which case, Marisa had better pack a bag.

Says the bloke who can’t divide 140 by 2.

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Date: 11/11/2026 14:37:51
From: dv
ID: 2447579
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

New Republican leader in the House of Reps will be Jim Jordan. A close Trump ally and ardent 2020 election denier, he is mainly known for his role in a sexual abuse coverup at Ohio state university.

A ratbag and nutter, this will be a perfect opportunity for him because there will be no pressure on him to achieve anything because the Democrats will have a commanding majority.

Senator Thune will continue as Republican Senate Minority leader. He is critical of Trump, more of an old school conservative, and there will be some expectation that he succeed in blocking Democrat legislation via the filibuster.

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Date: 11/11/2026 14:49:24
From: dv
ID: 2447581
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

If I were a gambling man, I would bet that Hakeem Jeffries becomes House Speaker and remains in that position at least til 2028.
Kind of seems Chuck Schumer is cooked, a lot of senators have ruled out supporting him. The name Chris van Hollen comes up.

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Date: 11/11/2026 17:53:35
From: dv
ID: 2447667
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 12/11/2026 06:50:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447746
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Pirro: What should we do? Send in more troops to protect sacrifices already made? Cut a deal with the devil, Iran?
Brand: Iran is not the devil, and referring to them as such is incendiary and provocative. She’s talking about the situation in Iraq, she’s judged Iran to be in league with Satan or even the embodiment of Satan…
Pirro: The ISIS assault, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, signals the beginning of the reverse crusade. They are coming for us. To THEM, WE are the infidels.
Brand: Hold on. They’re not (laughs). They’re not coming. Also it’s interesting the way she said “to THEM, WE are the infidels” meaning that she regards them as infidels! Which means unclean, disconnected from God. Don’t try to counter religious extremism with religious extremism.
Pirro: Americans have shed enough blood there. My resolution? Airstrikes. Bomb them, bomb them, keep bombing them, bomb them again and again!
Brand: Fucking hell, Justice Judge Jeanine! Bomb them? She’s pointing and everything, “Bomb them!” When they do these bombings, it creates more insurgents. That’s what creates them. Don’t think of them as going down there and destroying stuff. Think of it as like a seed that goes into the ground and grows insurgents out of it.
Pirro: ISIS is a radical religious terrorist organisation.
Brand: So is Fox News. It’s a fanatical terrorist propagandist organisation. This isn’t reasonable, is it? The way she’s talking: “Bomb them! Bomb them!” She’s worse. You know when you see those videos of someone with like a (face mask) on and a rifle, going, “(imitates Arabic) Bomb them! Bomb them!” you go “fuckin’ hell, they’re a bit heavy” – she’s doing it, she’s just doing it with a city backdrop! She’s the savage. She’s totally espousing savage values.

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Date: 12/11/2026 06:58:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447748
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


if they had hearts they would send them out to their audiences too

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Date: 12/11/2026 09:11:48
From: dv
ID: 2447756
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

How did events meet my expections?

dv said:


Governorships are also important for federal politics since state governments determine congressional boundaries, and also affect ballot access and the conduct of federal elections. They are of course also important in their own right as state governments wield tremendous power in health and education etc.

Of the 50 governorships, 36 are up for election. Currently 26 are R, 24 are D. 18 of each are up for election.

*Solid Republican
Alabama
Arkansas
Idaho
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Tennessee
Wyoming

And so it proved.

*Very likely Republican
Kansas (gain for R)
New Hampshire
South Carolina

Kansas going for the Dem governor was unexpected.

*Republic leads within polling margin
Florida
Nebraska
Texas
Vermont

The Dems picked up Texas in a mild surprise.

*Neck and Neck
Georgia (currently R held)
Nevada (currently R held)

Both of these went to the Dems.

All the states that I had Dems as leading, likely or solid were indeed won by Dems.

Democrats might reasonably hope to pick up between 4 and 6 governorships, with some chance of 10.

In the end, they picked up 6, ending with the governorships of 30 states.

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Date: 12/11/2026 09:14:29
From: dv
ID: 2447757
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

And in the senate races? I’m assuming that Mississippi and Alaska end up in Dem hands, as seem extremely likely at this point.

dv said:


5 days out from the midterms, might as well have a squiz at how the Senate races are playing in the polls.

The House is important, but it seems certain the Dems will get a working majority, and the exact extent doesn’t matter that much. In the Senate, the numbers will matter for at least two reasons. Firstly they want a large enough majority to overcome internal resistance. At 52-48, the D leadership would struggle on several issues to enact their will because of conservative Democratic senators. At 54-46 they’ll have more options. Secondly, these senators will be around for six years: If they get to 54-46, they could have a view to being at 60-40 in 2028, which is a filibuster-proof majority.

—-

At present the senate balance is 53R-47D but that 47 includes senators King and Sanders, independents who caucus with the Democrats. There are opportunities for more Dem-friendly independents to win office this year.

35 Senate seats are up for election: 33 “regular” election and 2 “special” elections for to elect replacements. Of this 35, 22 are held by Republicans, 13 by Democrats. Of the senate spots not up for election this year, 31 are held by Reps, 34 are held by Dems and friends.

*Solid Republican (almost certain R victory)
Alabama
Arkansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Oklahoma
Tennessee
West Virginia
Wyoming

And so it proved.

*Very likely Republican Florida: Moody ® ahead by 7%, Nixon (D) a long shot Idaho: independent Todd Achilles has a long shot Mississippi: Colom (D) is 3% behind in latest poll Montana: independent Bodnar has a long shot South Dakota: independent Brian Bengs has a long shot

Well, Mississippi was the nice surprise.

*Republican leading but within polling margin
South Carolina: Darline Graham ® leads Annie Andrews by 1.5% but the margin is closing

And indeed Annie Andrews won handsomely.

*Neck and Neck
Iowa: Turek (D) ahead by less than 1%
Kansas: Hamilton (D) ahead by less than 1%
Nebraska: independent Dan Osborn ahead by less than 1%

Happy news for Kansas and Iowa. Not Dan Osborn’s year.

All the states where I had Dems leading, likely or solid were won by Dems.

The likely range then is 56D* – 44R to 47D*- 53R. The most likely would be somethng like 53D* – 47R.

The Democrats reached the top of my likely range, could not reasonably have hoped for more.

——

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Date: 12/11/2026 10:05:52
From: Ian
ID: 2447764
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


And in the senate races? I’m assuming that Mississippi and Alaska end up in Dem hands, as seem extremely likely at this point.

dv said:


5 days out from the midterms, might as well have a squiz at how the Senate races are playing in the polls.

The House is important, but it seems certain the Dems will get a working majority, and the exact extent doesn’t matter that much. In the Senate, the numbers will matter for at least two reasons. Firstly they want a large enough majority to overcome internal resistance. At 52-48, the D leadership would struggle on several issues to enact their will because of conservative Democratic senators. At 54-46 they’ll have more options. Secondly, these senators will be around for six years: If they get to 54-46, they could have a view to being at 60-40 in 2028, which is a filibuster-proof majority.

—-

At present the senate balance is 53R-47D but that 47 includes senators King and Sanders, independents who caucus with the Democrats. There are opportunities for more Dem-friendly independents to win office this year.

35 Senate seats are up for election: 33 “regular” election and 2 “special” elections for to elect replacements. Of this 35, 22 are held by Republicans, 13 by Democrats. Of the senate spots not up for election this year, 31 are held by Reps, 34 are held by Dems and friends.

*Solid Republican (almost certain R victory)
Alabama
Arkansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Oklahoma
Tennessee
West Virginia
Wyoming

And so it proved.

*Very likely Republican Florida: Moody ® ahead by 7%, Nixon (D) a long shot Idaho: independent Todd Achilles has a long shot Mississippi: Colom (D) is 3% behind in latest poll Montana: independent Bodnar has a long shot South Dakota: independent Brian Bengs has a long shot

Well, Mississippi was the nice surprise.

*Republican leading but within polling margin
South Carolina: Darline Graham ® leads Annie Andrews by 1.5% but the margin is closing

And indeed Annie Andrews won handsomely.

*Neck and Neck
Iowa: Turek (D) ahead by less than 1%
Kansas: Hamilton (D) ahead by less than 1%
Nebraska: independent Dan Osborn ahead by less than 1%

Happy news for Kansas and Iowa. Not Dan Osborn’s year.

All the states where I had Dems leading, likely or solid were won by Dems.

The likely range then is 56D* – 44R to 47D*- 53R. The most likely would be somethng like 53D* – 47R.

The Democrats reached the top of my likely range, could not reasonably have hoped for more.

——

A good summary. Not too wonky nor employing confusing terms like “gubernatorial”.

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Date: 12/11/2026 12:23:58
From: kii
ID: 2447792
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Guard reprimands Hegseth and staff at Tomb of the Unknown Soldier | AP News https://share.google/mziaROpZMP3KkwARZ

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Date: 12/11/2026 13:58:58
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2447838
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 12/11/2026 15:09:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447867
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

see this is what you get when you elect those dirty democrats

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-12/new-york-brooklyn-building-collapse-rescue/107376940

Two people have died and others have been injured after a building collapsed in Brooklyn. Firefighters are searching through the rubble for others. The building that collapsed was next to another building that had been torn down for construction.

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Date: 12/11/2026 15:15:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447869
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

starting wars makes the world safer

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-12/treasury-scott-bessent-military-base-iran-threats/107377812

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Date: 12/11/2026 15:51:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 2447888
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Scott Bessent the latest Trump official to move onto a US military base.
Who else is living on a military base?

Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth have been living two doors down from one another on Generals’ Row at Fort McNair in Washington, DC.

Fort McNair has not traditionally housed political leaders, but several Trump officials have been living at the site due to security concerns, according to The Washington Post.

Following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Stephen Miller, the newly appointed White House chief of staff, moved into military housing on Fort McNair.

Former officials Pam Bondi and Kristi Noem were also reportedly living in military housing during their tenures.

The Atlantic previously reported that the number of Trump administration officials living in Washington-area military housing was putting a strain on the availability for uniformed officers.

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Date: 12/11/2026 16:02:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447891
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:

Scott Bessent the latest Trump official to move onto a US military base.
Who else is living on a military base?

Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth have been living two doors down from one another on Generals’ Row at Fort McNair in Washington, DC.

Fort McNair has not traditionally housed political leaders, but several Trump officials have been living at the site due to security concerns, according to The Washington Post.

Following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Stephen Miller, the newly appointed White House chief of staff, moved into military housing on Fort McNair.

Former officials Pam Bondi and Kristi Noem were also reportedly living in military housing during their tenures.

The Atlantic previously reported that the number of Trump administration officials living in Washington-area military housing was putting a strain on the availability for uniformed officers.

oooh which base, this could be fun, aren’t iran quite good at blowing up ussa military bases

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Date: 12/11/2026 17:07:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2447901
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Scott Bessent the latest Trump official to move onto a US military base.
Who else is living on a military base?

Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth have been living two doors down from one another on Generals’ Row at Fort McNair in Washington, DC.

Fort McNair has not traditionally housed political leaders, but several Trump officials have been living at the site due to security concerns, according to The Washington Post.

Following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Stephen Miller, the newly appointed White House chief of staff, moved into military housing on Fort McNair.

Former officials Pam Bondi and Kristi Noem were also reportedly living in military housing during their tenures.

The Atlantic previously reported that the number of Trump administration officials living in Washington-area military housing was putting a strain on the availability for uniformed officers.

oooh which base, this could be fun, aren’t iran quite good at blowing up ussa military bases

Just because they’re in uniform, it doesn’t mean they’re not homicidal:

Nidal Malik Hasan, a U.S. Army major and psychiatrist, committed the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. military history at Fort Hood in Texas on November 5, 2009.

He killed 13 people and wounded 32 others at the Soldier Readiness Processing Center, an attack motivated by Islamic extremism and opposition to the U.S. military’s presence in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Date: 12/11/2026 20:00:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447930
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

satire

alleged

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Date: 12/11/2026 22:16:52
From: dv
ID: 2447952
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 12/11/2026 22:26:12
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2447956
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



FMD… Didn’t know that Colom was African American. That will ruffle a few good ole boys’ feathers.

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Date: 12/11/2026 22:27:44
From: kii
ID: 2447957
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



😆 🤣 😂 😹

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Date: 13/11/2026 09:47:27
From: dv
ID: 2448024
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book _Triggered_.

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Date: 13/11/2026 09:51:19
From: Michael V
ID: 2448028
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

I feel for him so much.

Not.

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Date: 13/11/2026 09:53:16
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2448029
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.

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Date: 13/11/2026 09:53:32
From: ms spock
ID: 2448030
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

Jesus wept!

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Date: 13/11/2026 09:58:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 2448032
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


dv said:

“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

I feel for him so much.

Not.

Plus ninety millon Nots.

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Date: 13/11/2026 10:03:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2448034
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

—> son/nephew joke thread.

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Date: 13/11/2026 10:03:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2448035
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

I feel for him so much.

Not.

Plus ninety millon Nots.

it’s hilarious how Shakespearean these faeces all sound but then we guess these are just geniuses who know how ironic it all is and and cleverly playing it to prove how fucking stupid their fandopes are

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Date: 13/11/2026 10:04:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2448037
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

FMD

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Date: 13/11/2026 11:32:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448060
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties or thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

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Date: 13/11/2026 11:39:11
From: Cymek
ID: 2448068
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties or thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

Todays wars kill young people in the hundreds of thousands for often no gains at all or cause more problems than it solved
Its almost like you need to keep going for a victory so they didn’t die for nothing
The Russian men forced into fighting for some old fools days of pinning for the USSR for example

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Date: 13/11/2026 11:49:51
From: Michael V
ID: 2448072
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties or thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

I’d help you.

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Date: 13/11/2026 11:51:28
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2448074
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties or thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

I never saw that cemetery when I was based in Moresby but I got a small sense of it when I was doing evacuation flights out of Tokua, about 15 km from the erupting volcano at Rabaul. I knew there were extensive caves the Japanese had dug or extended on the other side of that mountain. The eruption had pumped out enough ash & rock that the entrance was completely covered up, and all the bodies & gear still in there would be there forever. They’d never been known or remembered from then on.

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Date: 13/11/2026 11:58:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 2448076
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties or thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

Hear hear.

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Date: 13/11/2026 12:01:58
From: ms spock
ID: 2448078
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

My Internet connection is so slow today.

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Date: 13/11/2026 12:21:21
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2448087
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties gtgtttgtllggtggggggggggtgor thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

War is and always has been one of the most monumental and consequential endeavours we as a species have ever engaged in. So many resources, so many lives, so many nations, so many ideologies. It appeals to the basest of human instincts, greed, ignorance, prejudice, violence and revenge and is an anathema to those qualities exhibited by the best of us. It seems that every few generations we need to understand anew what our grandparents learned and remind ourselves of all that is lost. An end to war must remains our collective goal and only when we engage with one another, empathise with one another, seek to understand one another, can we banish war to the past and grow as one humankind together in peace, in love. This remains our task, and I think we are up to it as long as we aim to do it together.

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Date: 13/11/2026 12:36:53
From: party_pants
ID: 2448097
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:

War is and always has been one of the most monumental and consequential endeavours we as a species have ever engaged in. So many resources, so many lives, so many nations, so many ideologies. It appeals to the basest of human instincts, greed, ignorance, prejudice, violence and revenge and is an anathema to those qualities exhibited by the best of us. It seems that every few generations we need to understand anew what our grandparents learned and remind ourselves of all that is lost. An end to war must remains our collective goal and only when we engage with one another, empathise with one another, seek to understand one another, can we banish war to the past and grow as one humankind together in peace, in love. This remains our task, and I think we are up to it as long as we aim to do it together.

If it is a part of our basic human nature then it is always going to be with us. Especially as world population continues to grow and we increase competition over territory and resources. It’s the duality of human nature, we are both nasty brutes and noble savages at the same time.

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Date: 13/11/2026 12:38:24
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2448098
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

War is and always has been one of the most monumental and consequential endeavours we as a species have ever engaged in. So many resources, so many lives, so many nations, so many ideologies. It appeals to the basest of human instincts, greed, ignorance, prejudice, violence and revenge and is an anathema to those qualities exhibited by the best of us. It seems that every few generations we need to understand anew what our grandparents learned and remind ourselves of all that is lost. An end to war must remains our collective goal and only when we engage with one another, empathise with one another, seek to understand one another, can we banish war to the past and grow as one humankind together in peace, in love. This remains our task, and I think we are up to it as long as we aim to do it together.

If it is a part of our basic human nature then it is always going to be with us. Especially as world population continues to grow and we increase competition over territory and resources. It’s the duality of human nature, we are both nasty brutes and noble savages at the same time.

We’ll have to try keep it all on the sporting field. :-)

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Date: 13/11/2026 12:38:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448099
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Spiny Norman said:

I never saw that cemetery when I was based in Moresby but I got a small sense of it when I was doing evacuation flights out of Tokua, about 15 km from the erupting volcano at Rabaul. I knew there were extensive caves the Japanese had dug or extended on the other side of that mountain. The eruption had pumped out enough ash & rock that the entrance was completely covered up, and all the bodies & gear still in there would be there forever. They’d never been known or remembered from then on.

It’s the same in many places across the Pacific. Peleliu, Iwo Jima, Guam, Okinawa, Biak and other places have cave defences created by the Japanese.

No Allied soldier was going to risk his life going into them, (I know of two who did. One was killed immediately, and, the other, against all odds, succeeded in persuading some of those inside to surrender), so the least-costly (in Allied lives) strategy was to collapse the cave entrances with explosives, entombing those inside.

Every year, there’s ‘expeditions’ from Japan to try to locate the remains of fallen Japanese soldiers, including cave victims, and to return some of their bones to Japan.

Add to that who knows how many Japanese who were killed in the many, many palm log and earth bunkers that were built everywhere the Japanese occupied, and which are now collapsed, overgrown, and lost. And many, many more who went unburied in solitary deaths, or in the seas around islands.

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Date: 13/11/2026 12:39:36
From: party_pants
ID: 2448100
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

War is and always has been one of the most monumental and consequential endeavours we as a species have ever engaged in. So many resources, so many lives, so many nations, so many ideologies. It appeals to the basest of human instincts, greed, ignorance, prejudice, violence and revenge and is an anathema to those qualities exhibited by the best of us. It seems that every few generations we need to understand anew what our grandparents learned and remind ourselves of all that is lost. An end to war must remains our collective goal and only when we engage with one another, empathise with one another, seek to understand one another, can we banish war to the past and grow as one humankind together in peace, in love. This remains our task, and I think we are up to it as long as we aim to do it together.

If it is a part of our basic human nature then it is always going to be with us. Especially as world population continues to grow and we increase competition over territory and resources. It’s the duality of human nature, we are both nasty brutes and noble savages at the same time.

We’ll have to try keep it all on the sporting field. :-)

.. and no sandpaper allowed.

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Date: 13/11/2026 12:40:39
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448101
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

War is and always has been one of the most monumental and consequential endeavours we as a species have ever engaged in. So many resources, so many lives, so many nations, so many ideologies. It appeals to the basest of human instincts, greed, ignorance, prejudice, violence and revenge and is an anathema to those qualities exhibited by the best of us. It seems that every few generations we need to understand anew what our grandparents learned and remind ourselves of all that is lost. An end to war must remains our collective goal and only when we engage with one another, empathise with one another, seek to understand one another, can we banish war to the past and grow as one humankind together in peace, in love. This remains our task, and I think we are up to it as long as we aim to do it together.

If it is a part of our basic human nature then it is always going to be with us. Especially as world population continues to grow and we increase competition over territory and resources. It’s the duality of human nature, we are both nasty brutes and noble savages at the same time.

We’ll have to try keep it all on the sporting field. :-)

Let’s keep war as an option.

But, make it so that the leaders of nations have to lead their troops into battle, like kings of old.

No president/PM/king out front – no war.

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Date: 13/11/2026 12:42:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448103
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:

.. and no sandpaper allowed.

Blimey, i’m sick of that.

It’s ancient history. Who cares who knew what or did or didn’t do something?

Just don’t do it again, move on, no-on gives a shit.

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Date: 13/11/2026 12:44:22
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2448104
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


captain_spalding said:

When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties gtgtttgtllggtggggggggggtgor thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

War is and always has been one of the most monumental and consequential endeavours we as a species have ever engaged in. So many resources, so many lives, so many nations, so many ideologies. It appeals to the basest of human instincts, greed, ignorance, prejudice, violence and revenge and is an anathema to those qualities exhibited by the best of us. It seems that every few generations we need to understand anew what our grandparents learned and remind ourselves of all that is lost. An end to war must remains our collective goal and only when we engage with one another, empathise with one another, seek to understand one another, can we banish war to the past and grow as one humankind together in peace, in love. This remains our task, and I think we are up to it as long as we aim to do it together.

But what about them………them Muslims.

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Date: 13/11/2026 12:44:24
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2448105
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

I never saw that cemetery when I was based in Moresby but I got a small sense of it when I was doing evacuation flights out of Tokua, about 15 km from the erupting volcano at Rabaul. I knew there were extensive caves the Japanese had dug or extended on the other side of that mountain. The eruption had pumped out enough ash & rock that the entrance was completely covered up, and all the bodies & gear still in there would be there forever. They’d never been known or remembered from then on.

It’s the same in many places across the Pacific. Peleliu, Iwo Jima, Guam, Okinawa, Biak and other places have cave defences created by the Japanese.

No Allied soldier was going to risk his life going into them, (I know of two who did. One was killed immediately, and, the other, against all odds, succeeded in persuading some of those inside to surrender), so the least-costly (in Allied lives) strategy was to collapse the cave entrances with explosives, entombing those inside.

Every year, there’s ‘expeditions’ from Japan to try to locate the remains of fallen Japanese soldiers, including cave victims, and to return some of their bones to Japan.

Add to that who knows how many Japanese who were killed in the many, many palm log and earth bunkers that were built everywhere the Japanese occupied, and which are now collapsed, overgrown, and lost. And many, many more who went unburied in solitary deaths, or in the seas around islands.

Yeah. :(

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:04:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 2448125
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


captain_spalding said:

When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties gtgtttgtllggtggggggggggtgor thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

War is and always has been one of the most monumental and consequential endeavours we as a species have ever engaged in. So many resources, so many lives, so many nations, so many ideologies. It appeals to the basest of human instincts, greed, ignorance, prejudice, violence and revenge and is an anathema to those qualities exhibited by the best of us. It seems that every few generations we need to understand anew what our grandparents learned and remind ourselves of all that is lost. An end to war must remains our collective goal and only when we engage with one another, empathise with one another, seek to understand one another, can we banish war to the past and grow as one humankind together in peace, in love. This remains our task, and I think we are up to it as long as we aim to do it together.

Same with a few other things. It really can only work if we do it together. Peace has to be a common goal at least until t is achieved. Climate repair another..

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:09:34
From: kii
ID: 2448127
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

What an absolutely disgusting thing to say. He’s rage-baiting. Even the title is a nasty, stabby poke at the people who find his family’s behaviour to be abhorrent.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:12:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448129
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


dv said:

“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

What an absolutely disgusting thing to say. He’s rage-baiting. Even the title is a nasty, stabby poke at the people who find his family’s behaviour to be abhorrent.

Just about every family has one, or two, in it who are arseholes. Sometimes, rarely, there’s families where only a minority are not arseholes.

But, the rarest of the rare is a family like the Trumps, where every last one of them seems to be an arsehole.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:12:34
From: Kingy
ID: 2448130
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties or thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

I’d help you.

I wouldn’t stop till it was six feet deep.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:22:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448133
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

dv said:

“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

What an absolutely disgusting thing to say. He’s rage-baiting. Even the title is a nasty, stabby poke at the people who find his family’s behaviour to be abhorrent.

Just about every family has one, or two, in it who are arseholes. Sometimes, rarely, there’s families where only a minority are not arseholes.

But, the rarest of the rare is a family like the Trumps, where every last one of them seems to be an arsehole.

(Actually, it’s not all of them. Fred Trump Jr. seems to have been an OK bloke who just wanted to fly aeroplanes, but his arsehole father drove him to an early grave, and his daughter, Mary Trump, is one of Donny’s harshest critics.)

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:24:09
From: kii
ID: 2448135
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Kingy said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties or thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

I’d help you.

I wouldn’t stop till it was six feet deep.

I’d help. Maybe we could do a group excursion on The Outrage Bus. I’ll bring one of my fine hammers and some 4” nails to nail his balls to the floor. Plus some gloves.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:26:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448141
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Kingy said:

Michael V said:

I’d help you.

I wouldn’t stop till it was six feet deep.

I’d help. Maybe we could do a group excursion on The Outrage Bus. I’ll bring one of my fine hammers and some 4” nails to nail his balls to the floor. Plus some gloves.

Crikey, i just wanted to show him how stupid his remarks are, not re-enact the worst of war crimes in the Pacific!

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:28:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 2448145
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

Kingy said:

I wouldn’t stop till it was six feet deep.

I’d help. Maybe we could do a group excursion on The Outrage Bus. I’ll bring one of my fine hammers and some 4” nails to nail his balls to the floor. Plus some gloves.

Crikey, i just wanted to show him how stupid his remarks are, not re-enact the worst of war crimes in the Pacific!

I think the point was, he wouldn’t listen or hear your comment beccaause his tiny brain just cannot cope with facts.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:30:53
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448147
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

kii said:

I’d help. Maybe we could do a group excursion on The Outrage Bus. I’ll bring one of my fine hammers and some 4” nails to nail his balls to the floor. Plus some gloves.

Crikey, i just wanted to show him how stupid his remarks are, not re-enact the worst of war crimes in the Pacific!

I think the point was, he wouldn’t listen or hear your comment beccaause his tiny brain just cannot cope with facts.

Yeah, well, if i end up in front of a multi-national court charged with crimes against humanity, i’ll tell ‘em it’s because kii and roughie said it was the only way.

That defence always works well.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:34:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 2448154
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Crikey, i just wanted to show him how stupid his remarks are, not re-enact the worst of war crimes in the Pacific!

I think the point was, he wouldn’t listen or hear your comment beccaause his tiny brain just cannot cope with facts.

Yeah, well, if i end up in front of a multi-national court charged with crimes against humanity, i’ll tell ‘em it’s because kii and roughie said it was the only way.

That defence always works well.

:) I didn’t mean that you had to commit a war crime. That would be your fault alone. I only said he wouldn’t listen. Leave hhim to the courts to decide.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:39:10
From: Cymek
ID: 2448157
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:


Kingy said:

Michael V said:

I’d help you.

I wouldn’t stop till it was six feet deep.

I’d help. Maybe we could do a group excursion on The Outrage Bus. I’ll bring one of my fine hammers and some 4” nails to nail his balls to the floor. Plus some gloves.

I think perhaps it will be costs that makes up stop wars
Hundreds of billions spent on what must be middle tier conflicts and they achieve sod all except death and destruction not even a acceptable outcome most of the time.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:44:06
From: ms spock
ID: 2448159
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


captain_spalding said:

When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties gtgtttgtllggtggggggggggtgor thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

War is and always has been one of the most monumental and consequential endeavours we as a species have ever engaged in. So many resources, so many lives, so many nations, so many ideologies. It appeals to the basest of human instincts, greed, ignorance, prejudice, violence and revenge and is an anathema to those qualities exhibited by the best of us. It seems that every few generations we need to understand anew what our grandparents learned and remind ourselves of all that is lost. An end to war must remains our collective goal and only when we engage with one another, empathise with one another, seek to understand one another, can we banish war to the past and grow as one humankind together in peace, in love. This remains our task, and I think we are up to it as long as we aim to do it together.

I really hope so.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:47:46
From: Cymek
ID: 2448161
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties gtgtttgtllggtggggggggggtgor thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

War is and always has been one of the most monumental and consequential endeavours we as a species have ever engaged in. So many resources, so many lives, so many nations, so many ideologies. It appeals to the basest of human instincts, greed, ignorance, prejudice, violence and revenge and is an anathema to those qualities exhibited by the best of us. It seems that every few generations we need to understand anew what our grandparents learned and remind ourselves of all that is lost. An end to war must remains our collective goal and only when we engage with one another, empathise with one another, seek to understand one another, can we banish war to the past and grow as one humankind together in peace, in love. This remains our task, and I think we are up to it as long as we aim to do it together.

I really hope so.

Aside from the death involved all the hard work going into building something, years or even decades and wrecked in seconds.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:50:26
From: Michael V
ID: 2448165
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

War is and always has been one of the most monumental and consequential endeavours we as a species have ever engaged in. So many resources, so many lives, so many nations, so many ideologies. It appeals to the basest of human instincts, greed, ignorance, prejudice, violence and revenge and is an anathema to those qualities exhibited by the best of us. It seems that every few generations we need to understand anew what our grandparents learned and remind ourselves of all that is lost. An end to war must remains our collective goal and only when we engage with one another, empathise with one another, seek to understand one another, can we banish war to the past and grow as one humankind together in peace, in love. This remains our task, and I think we are up to it as long as we aim to do it together.

If it is a part of our basic human nature then it is always going to be with us. Especially as world population continues to grow and we increase competition over territory and resources. It’s the duality of human nature, we are both nasty brutes and noble savages at the same time.

We’ll have to try keep it all on the sporting field. :-)

Great idea.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:53:07
From: Michael V
ID: 2448170
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

If it is a part of our basic human nature then it is always going to be with us. Especially as world population continues to grow and we increase competition over territory and resources. It’s the duality of human nature, we are both nasty brutes and noble savages at the same time.

We’ll have to try keep it all on the sporting field. :-)

Let’s keep war as an option.

But, make it so that the leaders of nations have to lead their troops into battle, like kings of old.

No president/PM/king out front – no war.

Good rule that one.

Another one: make weapons illegal in war.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:54:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448173
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

We’ll have to try keep it all on the sporting field. :-)

Let’s keep war as an option.

But, make it so that the leaders of nations have to lead their troops into battle, like kings of old.

No president/PM/king out front – no war.

Good rule that one.

Another one: make weapons illegal in war.

Water balloons and custard pies only.

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Date: 13/11/2026 13:54:57
From: ms spock
ID: 2448174
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

We’ll have to try keep it all on the sporting field. :-)

Let’s keep war as an option.

But, make it so that the leaders of nations have to lead their troops into battle, like kings of old.

No president/PM/king out front – no war.

Good rule that one.

Another one: make weapons illegal in war.

That works as well.

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Date: 13/11/2026 14:03:54
From: buffy
ID: 2448182
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


captain_spalding said:

kii said:

What an absolutely disgusting thing to say. He’s rage-baiting. Even the title is a nasty, stabby poke at the people who find his family’s behaviour to be abhorrent.

Just about every family has one, or two, in it who are arseholes. Sometimes, rarely, there’s families where only a minority are not arseholes.

But, the rarest of the rare is a family like the Trumps, where every last one of them seems to be an arsehole.

(Actually, it’s not all of them. Fred Trump Jr. seems to have been an OK bloke who just wanted to fly aeroplanes, but his arsehole father drove him to an early grave, and his daughter, Mary Trump, is one of Donny’s harshest critics.)

And she must have got all the family capability at stringing words together into coherent sentences.

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Date: 13/11/2026 14:05:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 2448184
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

captain_spalding said:

Just about every family has one, or two, in it who are arseholes. Sometimes, rarely, there’s families where only a minority are not arseholes.

But, the rarest of the rare is a family like the Trumps, where every last one of them seems to be an arsehole.

(Actually, it’s not all of them. Fred Trump Jr. seems to have been an OK bloke who just wanted to fly aeroplanes, but his arsehole father drove him to an early grave, and his daughter, Mary Trump, is one of Donny’s harshest critics.)

And she must have got all the family capability at stringing words together into coherent sentences.

and she has first hand knowledge of the deranged man.

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Date: 13/11/2026 14:09:34
From: buffy
ID: 2448186
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Let’s keep war as an option.

But, make it so that the leaders of nations have to lead their troops into battle, like kings of old.

No president/PM/king out front – no war.

Good rule that one.

Another one: make weapons illegal in war.

Water balloons and custard pies only.

No. No touching. Just serious invasion of personal space.

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Date: 13/11/2026 14:14:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 2448190
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Good rule that one.

Another one: make weapons illegal in war.

Water balloons and custard pies only.

No. No touching. Just serious invasion of personal space.

We were supposed to be there Yesterday.

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Date: 13/11/2026 15:02:08
From: kii
ID: 2448205
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


kii said:

Kingy said:

I wouldn’t stop till it was six feet deep.

I’d help. Maybe we could do a group excursion on The Outrage Bus. I’ll bring one of my fine hammers and some 4” nails to nail his balls to the floor. Plus some gloves.

Crikey, i just wanted to show him how stupid his remarks are, not re-enact the worst of war crimes in the Pacific!

meh

He needs pain. Those filthy bastards don’t respond to subtle things like rubbing their noses in the dirt.

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Date: 13/11/2026 15:05:35
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2448206
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Doesn’t seem to be the most efficient way to make a sword.
Though it does get rid of 300 enemies at a time.

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Date: 13/11/2026 15:32:09
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2448216
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

The latest Iranian US video.

Reddit

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Date: 13/11/2026 16:52:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2448248
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

kii said:

dv said:

“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

What an absolutely disgusting thing to say. He’s rage-baiting. Even the title is a nasty, stabby poke at the people who find his family’s behaviour to be abhorrent.

but the good news is, nobody talking about jeevacation after this

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Date: 13/11/2026 16:53:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448250
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

dv said:

“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

What an absolutely disgusting thing to say. He’s rage-baiting. Even the title is a nasty, stabby poke at the people who find his family’s behaviour to be abhorrent.

but the good news is, nobody talking about jeevacation after this

I’m still regularly sending e-mails to the White House, reminding them that Donny promised to ‘release the files’.

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Date: 13/11/2026 17:01:43
From: Michael V
ID: 2448255
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

kii said:

dv said:

“I rarely get emotional, if ever, yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of how much our family has sacrificed. In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals. We made the Ultimate Sacrifices.”

Donald Trump Jr, reflecting on his visit to Arlington National Cemetary, as relayed in his book Triggered.

What an absolutely disgusting thing to say. He’s rage-baiting. Even the title is a nasty, stabby poke at the people who find his family’s behaviour to be abhorrent.

but the good news is, nobody talking about jeevacation after this

We are, and I read that it’s going to be on the January agenda.

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Date: 13/11/2026 18:47:25
From: ms spock
ID: 2448283
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Let’s keep war as an option.

But, make it so that the leaders of nations have to lead their troops into battle, like kings of old.

No president/PM/king out front – no war.

Good rule that one.

Another one: make weapons illegal in war.

Water balloons and custard pies only.

Hmmmmm custard pies

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Date: 13/11/2026 20:06:43
From: dv
ID: 2448299
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

There’s

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Date: 13/11/2026 20:17:05
From: Michael V
ID: 2448303
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


There’s

Like!

:)

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Date: 13/11/2026 20:17:40
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448304
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


There’s

‘Dental’?

Crikey, even the radical left commo Red bolshevik revolutionary governments we’ve had in Australia haven’t been able to get dental under the health care umbrella over the last fifty years.

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Date: 13/11/2026 20:18:37
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2448305
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


There’s

Thank goodness Medicare isn’t going bankrupt.

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Date: 13/11/2026 20:20:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448307
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

There’s

Thank goodness Medicare isn’t going bankrupt.

Wouldn’t be, if some government could get mining companies to pay at least a reasonable amount of the taxes that they should.

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Date: 13/11/2026 20:36:47
From: dv
ID: 2448310
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

There’s

Thank goodness Medicare isn’t going bankrupt.

It is, that’s why the US needs a proper UH system

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Date: 13/11/2026 20:45:57
From: Neophyte
ID: 2448312
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


There’s

Neddles suggested something similar the other day, with the added carrot of a couple of million dollars “to investigate” the possibility of putting Trump’s mug on Mt Rushmore (with no intention of doing any such thing, it’s purely to lure him in)

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Date: 13/11/2026 20:53:38
From: ms spock
ID: 2448314
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

When i was very much younger, i visited the Bomana War Cemetery near Port Moresby.

Of course, as i’d grown up, i’d heard all about WW2, and the fighting in New Guinea, Kokoda, all that.

It was while walking between the rows of graves that something hit me hard. A lot of the blokes buried there were my age (as i was then), or even younger.

We were really just ‘older kids’, me and them both. Honestly, i doubt i had the adult skills necessary to organise a chook raffle (and i knew it), and possibly a lot of those bos were the same.

Yet, they’d been packed off to a hot, humid, undeveloped, naturally very hostile place, and told to defend it against an absolute horde of people who wanted only to kill them, and to defend it by killing those people.

And, those poor buggers had been killed. They’d died brutally violent, horrible and painful deaths, in a place they never wanted to be in, far away from all the people they loved and were loved by.

In front of me, buried in that foreign place, was where they ended up.

People would say that they ‘gave their lives’. They did. But, it was there that i understood that it wasn’t the lives they had that they gave . It was the lives they’d never have. They’d never see home again, or those people they loved. They’d never have careers, or hobbies, or sports. They’d never go to the beach again, or go camping, or fishing. They’d never enjoy their twenties gtgtttgtllggtggggggggggtgor thirties. They’d never fall in love, maybe marry, have children, grandchildren, watch their families grow and prosper. They’d never have a future. That was their real sacrifice.

I’d like to take Donald Trump Jr. to Bomana, and rub his nose in the dirt there.

War is and always has been one of the most monumental and consequential endeavours we as a species have ever engaged in. So many resources, so many lives, so many nations, so many ideologies. It appeals to the basest of human instincts, greed, ignorance, prejudice, violence and revenge and is an anathema to those qualities exhibited by the best of us. It seems that every few generations we need to understand anew what our grandparents learned and remind ourselves of all that is lost. An end to war must remains our collective goal and only when we engage with one another, empathise with one another, seek to understand one another, can we banish war to the past and grow as one humankind together in peace, in love. This remains our task, and I think we are up to it as long as we aim to do it together.

Same with a few other things. It really can only work if we do it together. Peace has to be a common goal at least until t is achieved. Climate repair another..

As every one knows Climate repair is urgent.

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Date: 13/11/2026 21:05:58
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2448318
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

There’s

Thank goodness Medicare isn’t going bankrupt.

Wouldn’t be, if some government could get mining companies to pay at least a reasonable amount of the taxes that they should.

taking about
Umm I’m taking about the US medical program for 60yo+ called Medicare.

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Date: 13/11/2026 21:06:41
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2448320
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

There’s

Thank goodness Medicare isn’t going bankrupt.

It is, that’s why the US needs a proper UH system

Which should look nothing like Medicare for All..

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Date: 13/11/2026 21:10:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2448321
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Thank goodness Medicare isn’t going bankrupt.

Wouldn’t be, if some government could get mining companies to pay at least a reasonable amount of the taxes that they should.

taking about
Umm I’m taking about the US medical program for 60yo+ called Medicare.

Correction 65yo.

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Date: 13/11/2026 21:56:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448323
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Witty Rejoinder said:


captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Thank goodness Medicare isn’t going bankrupt.

Wouldn’t be, if some government could get mining companies to pay at least a reasonable amount of the taxes that they should.

taking about
Umm I’m taking about the US medical program for 60yo+ called Medicare.

Oh, that Medicare.

Well, that might not be going broke if Trump hadn’t decided to spend up to $2 billion a day on annoying Iran.

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Date: 14/11/2026 08:25:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448363
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Donny has been venting a lot on ‘Truth Social’ in the last couple of days, with a big series of posts on Nov 12.

Prezdunt Shitpants is scared. A whole lot of people who don’t like him, or even have a use for him, are going to take control of the levers of government, and of government inquiries, soon.

Jeff Tiedrich presents a choice selection of Dumpy’s posts of in his latest online column, which you can read here: https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/lets-all-point-and-laugh-at-the-panicking

You can almost smell the fear coming off the screen images of the posts. He doesn’t even bother to ‘thank you for your attention to this matter!’ any more.

Jeff makes the point that: ‘All this batshittery is just from the anticipation of the investigations that won’t ramp up until next year. What’s going to happen then? He’s going to completely lose his fucking mind, and god knows what dumbfuckery he’s going to get up to’.

Incidentally, The Farter-in-Chief makes the claim that ‘I…don’t even take a Salary, worth Millions of Dollars. I am the only President to have done so! ‘

BZZZT!

Sorry, Donny, Herbert Hoover and John F. Kennedy both beat you to that one. And George Washington volunteered to serve without pay.

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Date: 14/11/2026 08:30:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2448364
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Donny has been venting a lot on ‘Truth Social’ in the last couple of days, with a big series of posts on Nov 12.

Prezdunt Shitpants is scared. A whole lot of people who don’t like him, or even have a use for him, are going to take control of the levers of government, and of government inquiries, soon.

Jeff Tiedrich presents a choice selection of Dumpy’s posts of in his latest online column, which you can read here: https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/lets-all-point-and-laugh-at-the-panicking

You can almost smell the fear coming off the screen images of the posts. He doesn’t even bother to ‘thank you for your attention to this matter!’ any more.

Jeff makes the point that: ‘All this batshittery is just from the anticipation of the investigations that won’t ramp up until next year. What’s going to happen then? He’s going to completely lose his fucking mind, and god knows what dumbfuckery he’s going to get up to’.

Incidentally, The Farter-in-Chief makes the claim that ‘I…don’t even take a Salary, worth Millions of Dollars. I am the only President to have done so! ‘

BZZZT!

Sorry, Donny, Herbert Hoover and John F. Kennedy both beat you to that one. And George Washington volunteered to serve without pay.

Trump doesn’t deserve any pay for the damage he has done.

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Date: 14/11/2026 08:30:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 2448365
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Donny has been venting a lot on ‘Truth Social’ in the last couple of days, with a big series of posts on Nov 12.

Prezdunt Shitpants is scared. A whole lot of people who don’t like him, or even have a use for him, are going to take control of the levers of government, and of government inquiries, soon.

Jeff Tiedrich presents a choice selection of Dumpy’s posts of in his latest online column, which you can read here: https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/lets-all-point-and-laugh-at-the-panicking

You can almost smell the fear coming off the screen images of the posts. He doesn’t even bother to ‘thank you for your attention to this matter!’ any more.

Jeff makes the point that: ‘All this batshittery is just from the anticipation of the investigations that won’t ramp up until next year. What’s going to happen then? He’s going to completely lose his fucking mind, and god knows what dumbfuckery he’s going to get up to’.

Incidentally, The Farter-in-Chief makes the claim that ‘I…don’t even take a Salary, worth Millions of Dollars. I am the only President to have done so! ‘

BZZZT!

Sorry, Donny, Herbert Hoover and John F. Kennedy both beat you to that one. And George Washington volunteered to serve without pay.

He may actually not be lying(which would be a first) anoout the salary thing but who is paying for all the gold leaf statues and etc?

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Date: 14/11/2026 08:31:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 2448366
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Tau.Neutrino said:


captain_spalding said:

Donny has been venting a lot on ‘Truth Social’ in the last couple of days, with a big series of posts on Nov 12.

Prezdunt Shitpants is scared. A whole lot of people who don’t like him, or even have a use for him, are going to take control of the levers of government, and of government inquiries, soon.

Jeff Tiedrich presents a choice selection of Dumpy’s posts of in his latest online column, which you can read here: https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/lets-all-point-and-laugh-at-the-panicking

You can almost smell the fear coming off the screen images of the posts. He doesn’t even bother to ‘thank you for your attention to this matter!’ any more.

Jeff makes the point that: ‘All this batshittery is just from the anticipation of the investigations that won’t ramp up until next year. What’s going to happen then? He’s going to completely lose his fucking mind, and god knows what dumbfuckery he’s going to get up to’.

Incidentally, The Farter-in-Chief makes the claim that ‘I…don’t even take a Salary, worth Millions of Dollars. I am the only President to have done so! ‘

BZZZT!

Sorry, Donny, Herbert Hoover and John F. Kennedy both beat you to that one. And George Washington volunteered to serve without pay.

Trump doesn’t deserve any pay for the damage he has done.

He deserves to Pay for all the damahe.

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Date: 14/11/2026 08:33:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448367
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

Donny has been venting a lot on ‘Truth Social’ in the last couple of days, with a big series of posts on Nov 12.

Prezdunt Shitpants is scared. A whole lot of people who don’t like him, or even have a use for him, are going to take control of the levers of government, and of government inquiries, soon.

Jeff Tiedrich presents a choice selection of Dumpy’s posts of in his latest online column, which you can read here: https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/lets-all-point-and-laugh-at-the-panicking

You can almost smell the fear coming off the screen images of the posts. He doesn’t even bother to ‘thank you for your attention to this matter!’ any more.

Jeff makes the point that: ‘All this batshittery is just from the anticipation of the investigations that won’t ramp up until next year. What’s going to happen then? He’s going to completely lose his fucking mind, and god knows what dumbfuckery he’s going to get up to’.

Incidentally, The Farter-in-Chief makes the claim that ‘I…don’t even take a Salary, worth Millions of Dollars. I am the only President to have done so! ‘

BZZZT!

Sorry, Donny, Herbert Hoover and John F. Kennedy both beat you to that one. And George Washington volunteered to serve without pay.

He may actually not be lying(which would be a first) anoout the salary thing but who is paying for all the gold leaf statues and etc?

I don’t think he’s telling ‘a lie’ with his claim to be the first Prez to not take his salary.

He’s just ignorant of Hoover and Kennedy not taking their salaries.

Ignorance is what he does best.

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Date: 14/11/2026 08:36:26
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448368
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

As for who’s paying for all the ‘gold’ shit:

it’s not Prez Dump.

He’s made a career out off not paying for things.

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Date: 14/11/2026 09:07:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2448378
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

Know anyone who’s travelling in the US?

Well, they’re not travelling by air:


I wonder what the reasons are?

alleged

The US Federal Aviation Administration has issued a national ground stop “due to extraordinary circumstance and reasons for safety” after the agency earlier reported serious air traffic control communications issues. Shortly before the announcement, the FAA halted traffic in Chicago due to air traffic control issues.

deity damn we didn’t know ussa atc used Microsoft Outlook, fucking hell

relevant though, could be they lie

This is only the second nationwide ground stop in the United States since the September 11 terror attacks.

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Date: 14/11/2026 09:13:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 2448379
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Donny has been venting a lot on ‘Truth Social’ in the last couple of days, with a big series of posts on Nov 12.

Prezdunt Shitpants is scared. A whole lot of people who don’t like him, or even have a use for him, are going to take control of the levers of government, and of government inquiries, soon.

Jeff Tiedrich presents a choice selection of Dumpy’s posts of in his latest online column, which you can read here: https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/lets-all-point-and-laugh-at-the-panicking

You can almost smell the fear coming off the screen images of the posts. He doesn’t even bother to ‘thank you for your attention to this matter!’ any more.

Jeff makes the point that: ‘All this batshittery is just from the anticipation of the investigations that won’t ramp up until next year. What’s going to happen then? He’s going to completely lose his fucking mind, and god knows what dumbfuckery he’s going to get up to’.

Incidentally, The Farter-in-Chief makes the claim that ‘I…don’t even take a Salary, worth Millions of Dollars. I am the only President to have done so! ‘

BZZZT!

Sorry, Donny, Herbert Hoover and John F. Kennedy both beat you to that one. And George Washington volunteered to serve without pay.

He may actually not be lying(which would be a first) anoout the salary thing but who is paying for all the gold leaf statues and etc?

I don’t think he’s telling ‘a lie’ with his claim to be the first Prez to not take his salary.

He’s just ignorant of Hoover and Kennedy not taking their salaries.

Ignorance is what he does best.

He is ignorant that’s for sure.

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Date: 14/11/2026 09:18:13
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2448381
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

A funny thing happened to me this morning. Got the nag screen asking me to finish setting up my computer to make me more connected or somesuch. From Microsoft.

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Date: 14/11/2026 09:30:53
From: buffy
ID: 2448384
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


Donny has been venting a lot on ‘Truth Social’ in the last couple of days, with a big series of posts on Nov 12.

Prezdunt Shitpants is scared. A whole lot of people who don’t like him, or even have a use for him, are going to take control of the levers of government, and of government inquiries, soon.

Jeff Tiedrich presents a choice selection of Dumpy’s posts of in his latest online column, which you can read here: https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/lets-all-point-and-laugh-at-the-panicking

You can almost smell the fear coming off the screen images of the posts. He doesn’t even bother to ‘thank you for your attention to this matter!’ any more.

Jeff makes the point that: ‘All this batshittery is just from the anticipation of the investigations that won’t ramp up until next year. What’s going to happen then? He’s going to completely lose his fucking mind, and god knows what dumbfuckery he’s going to get up to’.

Incidentally, The Farter-in-Chief makes the claim that ‘I…don’t even take a Salary, worth Millions of Dollars. I am the only President to have done so! ‘

BZZZT!

Sorry, Donny, Herbert Hoover and John F. Kennedy both beat you to that one. And George Washington volunteered to serve without pay.

The grammar and punctuation are mostly correct in those Truth Social posts in that link. I doubt he wrote them by himself.

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Date: 14/11/2026 09:42:56
From: buffy
ID: 2448385
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I wonder what the reasons are?

alleged

The US Federal Aviation Administration has issued a national ground stop “due to extraordinary circumstance and reasons for safety” after the agency earlier reported serious air traffic control communications issues. Shortly before the announcement, the FAA halted traffic in Chicago due to air traffic control issues.

deity damn we didn’t know ussa atc used Microsoft Outlook, fucking hell

relevant though, could be they lie

This is only the second nationwide ground stop in the United States since the September 11 terror attacks.

ABC “live” information

Interesting, partway down that piece >>He would not rule out a cyber attack, nor problems related to new AI-powered technology being rolled out in air control towers.<<

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Date: 14/11/2026 10:12:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448404
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

alleged

The US Federal Aviation Administration has issued a national ground stop “due to extraordinary circumstance and reasons for safety” after the agency earlier reported serious air traffic control communications issues. Shortly before the announcement, the FAA halted traffic in Chicago due to air traffic control issues.

deity damn we didn’t know ussa atc used Microsoft Outlook, fucking hell

relevant though, could be they lie

This is only the second nationwide ground stop in the United States since the September 11 terror attacks.

ABC “live” information

Interesting, partway down that piece >>He would not rule out a cyber attack, nor problems related to new AI-powered technology being rolled out in air control towers.<<

Dept of Homeland Security Markwayne Mullins gave a press briefing outside the White House.

I’ll be damned if he didn’t sound reasonably competent and responsible. Who’d expect that from a Trump appointee?

Anyway, he cited ‘a communication problem’, declared passenger safety to be the top priority, emphasised that ‘it’s not another 9/11’ and that ‘the American public’ is not at risk, refused to speculate on some things, and promised to keep the media informed.

Probably the best media interaction yet seen from anyone in Trump’s government.

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Date: 14/11/2026 10:13:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 2448407
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

relevant though, could be they lie

This is only the second nationwide ground stop in the United States since the September 11 terror attacks.

ABC “live” information

Interesting, partway down that piece >>He would not rule out a cyber attack, nor problems related to new AI-powered technology being rolled out in air control towers.<<

Dept of Homeland Security Markwayne Mullins gave a press briefing outside the White House.

I’ll be damned if he didn’t sound reasonably competent and responsible. Who’d expect that from a Trump appointee?

Anyway, he cited ‘a communication problem’, declared passenger safety to be the top priority, emphasised that ‘it’s not another 9/11’ and that ‘the American public’ is not at risk, refused to speculate on some things, and promised to keep the media informed.

Probably the best media interaction yet seen from anyone in Trump’s government.

Trump’s minions? They are all in Damage repair mode..

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Date: 14/11/2026 10:15:50
From: ms spock
ID: 2448409
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

relevant though, could be they lie

This is only the second nationwide ground stop in the United States since the September 11 terror attacks.

ABC “live” information

Interesting, partway down that piece >>He would not rule out a cyber attack, nor problems related to new AI-powered technology being rolled out in air control towers.<<

Dept of Homeland Security Markwayne Mullins gave a press briefing outside the White House.

I’ll be damned if he didn’t sound reasonably competent and responsible. Who’d expect that from a Trump appointee?

Anyway, he cited ‘a communication problem’, declared passenger safety to be the top priority, emphasised that ‘it’s not another 9/11’ and that ‘the American public’ is not at risk, refused to speculate on some things, and promised to keep the media informed.

Probably the best media interaction yet seen from anyone in Trump’s government.

What a relief. That there is one adult who is in the room so to speak.

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Date: 14/11/2026 10:17:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2448410
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

farque what happens when you elect democrats

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-14/tanker-collides-with-cruise-ship-new-orleans/107385650

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Date: 14/11/2026 10:18:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2448411
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

ABC “live” information

Interesting, partway down that piece >>He would not rule out a cyber attack, nor problems related to new AI-powered technology being rolled out in air control towers.<<

Dept of Homeland Security Markwayne Mullins gave a press briefing outside the White House.

I’ll be damned if he didn’t sound reasonably competent and responsible. Who’d expect that from a Trump appointee?

Anyway, he cited ‘a communication problem’, declared passenger safety to be the top priority, emphasised that ‘it’s not another 9/11’ and that ‘the American public’ is not at risk, refused to speculate on some things, and promised to keep the media informed.

Probably the best media interaction yet seen from anyone in Trump’s government.

What a relief. That there is one adult who is in the room so to speak.

well uh guess

it’s been nice knowing yous

lots of love

https://youtu.be/_Wlsd9mljiU?t=7

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Date: 14/11/2026 10:50:06
From: Michael V
ID: 2448420
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

SCIENCE said:

farque what happens when you elect democrats

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-14/tanker-collides-with-cruise-ship-new-orleans/107385650

That does not look good.

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Date: 14/11/2026 13:27:25
From: dv
ID: 2448472
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

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Date: 14/11/2026 13:30:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2448473
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



She does look elderly, but I wouldn’t say “prehistoric”.

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Date: 14/11/2026 13:36:44
From: dv
ID: 2448474
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Bubblecar said:


dv said:


She does look elderly, but I wouldn’t say “prehistoric”.

The Eve of Destruction

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Date: 14/11/2026 13:47:10
From: ms spock
ID: 2448478
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

Marc Elias on the Dems acquisition of seats.

He and his company fought Trump’s 60 cases that Trump won the 2020 election.

Link

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Date: 14/11/2026 13:54:25
From: dv
ID: 2448482
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

ms spock said:


Marc Elias on the Dems acquisition of seats.

He and his company fought Trump’s 60 cases that Trump won the 2020 election.

Link

This is the Democrats’ best result in the House since 1990

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Date: 14/11/2026 13:56:19
From: ms spock
ID: 2448483
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


ms spock said:

Marc Elias on the Dems acquisition of seats.

He and his company fought Trump’s 60 cases that Trump won the 2020 election.

Link

This is the Democrats’ best result in the House since 1990

I hope that they do something with it.

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Date: 14/11/2026 15:16:13
From: dv
ID: 2448529
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/nov/13/faa-expanded-ai-air-traffic-tool-centers-days-nationwide-ground-stop/

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Date: 14/11/2026 15:22:23
From: party_pants
ID: 2448531
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/nov/13/faa-expanded-ai-air-traffic-tool-centers-days-nationwide-ground-stop/

Misleading headline. If you read the article they are all saying that the AI management app is working fine and is not the cause of the mass stoppage.

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Date: 14/11/2026 16:09:58
From: dv
ID: 2448536
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


dv said:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/nov/13/faa-expanded-ai-air-traffic-tool-centers-days-nationwide-ground-stop/

Misleading headline. If you read the article they are all saying that the AI management app is working fine and is not the cause of the mass stoppage.

So it’s a complete coincidence?

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Date: 14/11/2026 16:46:13
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2448544
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

party_pants said:


dv said:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/nov/13/faa-expanded-ai-air-traffic-tool-centers-days-nationwide-ground-stop/

Misleading headline. If you read the article they are all saying that the AI management app is working fine and is not the cause of the mass stoppage.

a lot of news articles are now written by AI so it is no surprise that this article, which may be AI, points the blame somewhere else.

😎

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Date: 14/11/2026 16:54:46
From: buffy
ID: 2448546
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

dv said:



“first woman” what?

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Date: 14/11/2026 17:04:18
From: party_pants
ID: 2448550
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


dv said:


“first woman” what?

I think that’s the joke

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Date: 14/11/2026 17:11:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 2448552
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


dv said:


“first woman” what?

Her name should have been Eve?

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Date: 14/11/2026 17:33:31
From: dv
ID: 2448556
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


dv said:


“first woman” what?

She was on the phone to the cops complaining about the ruckus of the Big Bang.

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Date: 14/11/2026 18:10:03
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2448565
Subject: re: US Politics 2026 #2

buffy said:


dv said:


“first woman” what?

Looks like a prototype to me.

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