Swarms of tiny robots remove microplastics from soil and water
Microplastics, which are plastic particles under 5 millimeters, are a major and growing threat in both soil and water. They damage soil fertility, disrupt nutrient cycling, harm aquatic and terrestrial life, and can move through the food chain. That makes cleaning them up an urgent priority.
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Fifty-six million years ago, Earth’s forests reached a tipping point. They had grown dense, lush canopies at the start of one of Earth’s most intense episodes of greenhouse warming. But those canopies began to thin.
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Tau.Neutrino said:
Ancient forests took 100,000 years to recover from the last global warming period similar to today – Wyoming fossils reveal what happenedFifty-six million years ago, Earth’s forests reached a tipping point. They had grown dense, lush canopies at the start of one of Earth’s most intense episodes of greenhouse warming. But those canopies began to thin.
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Do some forests recover more quickly than that?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ancient forests took 100,000 years to recover from the last global warming period similar to today – Wyoming fossils reveal what happenedFifty-six million years ago, Earth’s forests reached a tipping point. They had grown dense, lush canopies at the start of one of Earth’s most intense episodes of greenhouse warming. But those canopies began to thin.
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Do some forests recover more quickly than that?
Depends on the cause and the severity of their decline.
From that article:
Our study shows that carbon dioxide emissions have pushed forests beyond their physiological limits before, triggering changes that ripple from vegetation to rivers and across entire landscapes. It also shows that forests are remarkably resilient when given time to recover, but what counts as time is far longer than a human lifespan – it requires thousands of generations.
Today, human-caused carbon emissions and warming are unfolding vastly faster than during the PETM. The fossil record reminds us that forests can recover, but only if humanity avoids pushing them beyond thresholds from which recovery takes tens of thousands of years.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ancient forests took 100,000 years to recover from the last global warming period similar to today – Wyoming fossils reveal what happenedFifty-six million years ago, Earth’s forests reached a tipping point. They had grown dense, lush canopies at the start of one of Earth’s most intense episodes of greenhouse warming. But those canopies began to thin.
More…
Do some forests recover more quickly than that?
It is complicated.
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ancient forests took 100,000 years to recover from the last global warming period similar to today – Wyoming fossils reveal what happenedFifty-six million years ago, Earth’s forests reached a tipping point. They had grown dense, lush canopies at the start of one of Earth’s most intense episodes of greenhouse warming. But those canopies began to thin.
More…
Do some forests recover more quickly than that?
Depends on the cause and the severity of their decline.
From that article:
Our study shows that carbon dioxide emissions have pushed forests beyond their physiological limits before, triggering changes that ripple from vegetation to rivers and across entire landscapes. It also shows that forests are remarkably resilient when given time to recover, but what counts as time is far longer than a human lifespan – it requires thousands of generations.
Today, human-caused carbon emissions and warming are unfolding vastly faster than during the PETM. The fossil record reminds us that forests can recover, but only if humanity avoids pushing them beyond thresholds from which recovery takes tens of thousands of years.
Yeah. I was once asked how long it would take trees [;anted to solve the salinity problems. My answer was well, the forests we cleared had been there for thousands of years and individual trees were at least a thousand years old. So that’s how long it will take.
so not influenza, did someone poison them
SCIENCE said:
so not influenza, did someone poison them
Something they ate?
Seaweed-inspired mesh captures microplastics from 5 mm down to tens of nanometers
A team of US scientists has developed a biodegradable mesh inspired by tangled seaweed that can capture microplastics ranging from millimeter-sized fragments to particles just tens of nanometers wide.
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SCIENCE said:
Nods.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Nods.
Ways to never admit wrongness.
Queensland scientists now believe there are three distinct species of the so-called “vegan Dracula” fish.
Lampreys are nicknamed vampire fish because they have sharp teeth and feed on the blood of other fish, but these are non-parasitic.
‘Link’:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-21/queensland-home-to-three-varieties-of-vegan-dracula-lampreys/107045122
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Nods.
Ways to never admit wrongness.
yous laugh but we keep hearing advertisements on radio that say a bunch of those things
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Nods.
Ways to never admit wrongness.
yous laugh but we keep hearing advertisements on radio that say a bunch of those things
Who said I was laughing?
Animals have been eating nature’s original bioplastic for millions of years
Nature invented biodegradable plastic long before humans did—and animals may have been feeding on it for hundreds of millions of years. Researchers discovered that dozens of animal species possess enzymes capable of breaking down microbial bioplastics called PHAs, a talent once thought to belong only to microorganisms.
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Hidden Structures in Clouds May Solve a Longstanding Mystery About Rainfall
It’s well known that where there’s smoke there’s fire, but did you know that where there’s rain there’s ice?
Or so the conventional thinking goes, as atmospheric ice crystals allow raindrops to grow large and heavy enough to fall from cold clouds.
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Tau.Neutrino said:
Hidden Structures in Clouds May Solve a Longstanding Mystery About RainfallIt’s well known that where there’s smoke there’s fire, but did you know that where there’s rain there’s ice?
Or so the conventional thinking goes, as atmospheric ice crystals allow raindrops to grow large and heavy enough to fall from cold clouds.
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A CloudKite test flight. This unique device is designed to explore the relationships between cloud microphysics and turbulence. (MPI-DS)
An illustration of cloud types by height. (Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.)
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Forests hit by global warming could grow back in the future
Evidence from 56 million-year-old leaves suggests that forests that have struggled and declined due to rising global temperatures could grow back in the future if temperatures decline. The research also suggests that higher atmospheric carbon dioxide levels may not stimulate forest growth, but
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Tau.Neutrino said:
Hidden Structures in Clouds May Solve a Longstanding Mystery About RainfallIt’s well known that where there’s smoke there’s fire, but did you know that where there’s rain there’s ice?
Or so the conventional thinking goes, as atmospheric ice crystals allow raindrops to grow large and heavy enough to fall from cold clouds.
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In many years of flying I don’t recall encountering any ice in smaller cloud, but certainly some in thunderstorms. The problem with aircraft radar is that it detect rain but not ice. The problem with that is in a pitch-black night when you’re in cloud and there’s nothing to see outside, if the radar picks up a thunderstorm (which is very easy to do) you have to do two things –
- If your path is anywhere near it, you should always fly upwind of it as they can spit out hail downwind for kilometres. Hail can destroy many parts of the aircraft very quickly.
- If you just leave the radar sitting as it is, usually with a few degrees pitched down, quite often the thunderstorm will slowly disappear. That’s just the radar beam being focused above the rain as the plan gets closer and the danger is that it’s not picking up the hail/ice in the tops of the cloud and you fly right through it. Then bad things can happen.
So you have to change the pitch down angle of the radar head to get a picture of how tall the cloud is likely to be. Then quite often just change course to go around it upwind anyway.
Tau.Neutrino said:
An illustration of cloud types by height. (Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.)
FWIW that’s only a small thunderstorm. The biggest one I’ve ever seen was coming back from Townsville to Brisbane in a Citation jet at 39,000’. I estimated that we were no more than about 2/3’s the way up it.
But strangely the thunderstorms in PNG were a bit of a toothless tiger. Sure, lots of rain but not very strong turbulence and little if any real ice. On some of the medivacs I did, for expediency when getting to the destination airport to pick up the patient, I’d flying through the edges of the storms (they were huge in width on the radar) and never had a problem. Just turned the ignition on in the engines to make sure they didn’t flame out.
Three days in with the new solar power system and it’s quite pleasing so far.
Spiny Norman said:
Three days in with the new solar power system and it’s quite pleasing so far.
Do you have cloud there today? It is overcast and gloomy here.
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
Three days in with the new solar power system and it’s quite pleasing so far.
Do you have cloud there today? It is overcast and gloomy here.
Yeah it’s cloudy. But the panels should be making more than what they are. According to the phone app nothing is being returned to the grid so I called the company yesterday to find out what’s going on. They’ve yet to get back to me, but it’s very important that we get a good feed-back into the grid.
LOL
In a normal year, Australia supplies 10 to 15 per cent of the world’s wheat market. But this year is expected to be anything but normal. The total winter crop, including wheat, barley and canola, is likely to be about 21 per cent down on last year.
duh war tariffs and fossil burns will fix this
good good
Sydney is currently forecast to reach 24–27°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which are the first three days of spring. This is around 4–7°C above average for this time of year. The last time Sydney reached at least 24°C on the first three days of spring was in 1969. If the city’s temperature manages to climb above 24.8°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which is possible, it will be the city’s warmest start to spring in 161 years. Other areas in eastern and southeastern Australia will also get a taste of the early-season warmth next week. Maximum temperatures in Melbourne and Adelaide are forecast to reach around 21–22°C next Tuesday, while Hobart should reach about 19°C. These temperatures are about 3–4°C above average for a September day.
SCIENCE said:
good good
Sydney is currently forecast to reach 24–27°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which are the first three days of spring. This is around 4–7°C above average for this time of year. The last time Sydney reached at least 24°C on the first three days of spring was in 1969. If the city’s temperature manages to climb above 24.8°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which is possible, it will be the city’s warmest start to spring in 161 years. Other areas in eastern and southeastern Australia will also get a taste of the early-season warmth next week. Maximum temperatures in Melbourne and Adelaide are forecast to reach around 21–22°C next Tuesday, while Hobart should reach about 19°C. These temperatures are about 3–4°C above average for a September day.
The rest of spring will also be hotter than it has ever been.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
good good
Sydney is currently forecast to reach 24–27°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which are the first three days of spring. This is around 4–7°C above average for this time of year. The last time Sydney reached at least 24°C on the first three days of spring was in 1969. If the city’s temperature manages to climb above 24.8°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which is possible, it will be the city’s warmest start to spring in 161 years. Other areas in eastern and southeastern Australia will also get a taste of the early-season warmth next week. Maximum temperatures in Melbourne and Adelaide are forecast to reach around 21–22°C next Tuesday, while Hobart should reach about 19°C. These temperatures are about 3–4°C above average for a September day.
The rest of spring will also be hotter than it has ever been.
Time to vote in some fascists who in the short term will burn more coal but then they’ll finally solve the problem by getting into deep trouble and getting a thoumillion people killed¡
guess the locals will be supporting environmentalist policies and governance then
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-30/horsehoe-bay-erosion-to-shrink-port-elliot-beach-sa/106995272
LOL
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
good good
Sydney is currently forecast to reach 24–27°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which are the first three days of spring. This is around 4–7°C above average for this time of year. The last time Sydney reached at least 24°C on the first three days of spring was in 1969. If the city’s temperature manages to climb above 24.8°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which is possible, it will be the city’s warmest start to spring in 161 years. Other areas in eastern and southeastern Australia will also get a taste of the early-season warmth next week. Maximum temperatures in Melbourne and Adelaide are forecast to reach around 21–22°C next Tuesday, while Hobart should reach about 19°C. These temperatures are about 3–4°C above average for a September day.
The rest of spring will also be hotter than it has ever been.
Time to vote in some fascists who in the short term will burn more coal but then they’ll finally solve the problem by getting into deep trouble and getting a thoumillion people killed¡
guess the locals will be supporting environmentalist policies and governance then
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-30/horsehoe-bay-erosion-to-shrink-port-elliot-beach-sa/106995272
LOL
don’t say we didn’t fucking warn all of yous
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-31/one-nation-victoria-energy-policy-announcement/107097686
alleged
well they were wrong
“few centuries” fknlol
SCIENCE said:
alleged
well they were wrong
“few centuries” fknlol
Those Kiwis were pretty smart back then.
Other than when it comes to estimating timing of future events.
pretty sure there’s only one good answer to this
we should elect a bunch of fascists who want to burn coal
SCIENCE said:
pretty sure there’s only one good answer to this
we should elect a bunch of fascists who want to burn coal
Politics is turning into a game of snap. The Coalition are going to remove 80% of the tobacco excise.
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:
No sign of warming there at all.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:
No sign of warming there at all.
it’s been worse
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:
No sign of warming there at all.
It’s peaked.
fkn climaxed scientists
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:
No sign of warming there at all.
Here, you left something off:
/TIC
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:
No sign of warming there at all.
Here, you left something off:
/TIC
You didn’t notice the virtual /TIC which is automatically added by inference whenever I post anything from mr. Spencer?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:
No sign of warming there at all.
Here, you left something off:
/TIC
You didn’t notice the virtual /TIC which is automatically added by inference whenever I post anything from mr. Spencer?
No, no I didn’t. Sorry.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:
No sign of warming there at all.
Not even a little bit!
SCIENCE said:
LOL
If it snows here, I know the climate is well and truly fucked.
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Hanrahan will be busy.
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:LOL
If it snows here, I know the climate is well and truly fucked.
Looking at clouds yesterday, I said to my friend, “Looks like snow clouds going somewhere”.
LOL
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Fail.
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A record El Niño brews in the Pacific. The world is feeling the first impacts
Climate scientists have been closely monitoring what is happening off Australia’s east coast over recent months and are increasingly concerned by what they are seeing. Pacific Ocean temperatures, a key driver of El Niño, are rising at an extraordinary pace and starting to enter uncharted territory.
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Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Fail.
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Fail.
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
Somehow they’ll find the money to reverse osmose water for data centre use. No one needs clean drinking water, right?
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Fail.
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
How sure can you be that is an honest representation?
Some one who is in a vital position could leave and the water quality could drop.
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:Michael V said:
Fail.
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
Somehow they’ll find the money to reverse osmose water for data centre use. No one needs clean drinking water, right?
How many Data centres in Australia collect rain 💧 on their roofs?
Whats the average size of a data centre.
The average data center covers roughly 100,000 square feet, so that is a fair amount of water catchment which can be recycled over and over.
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:Michael V said:
Fail.
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
How sure can you be that is an honest representation?
Some one who is in a vital position could leave and the water quality could drop.
hence the if
also Sydney is pretty disgusting so it’sn’t hard for treated water to improve the quality
but you’re right, Australians want coal burning fascists so we’re doubtful it’ll be continued improvement
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Fail.
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
Somehow they’ll find the money to reverse osmose water for data centre use. No one needs clean drinking water, right?
we suppose in principle if both the data and the osmose are mandatorily powered by renewables then we’d be accepting of it
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
How sure can you be that is an honest representation?
Some one who is in a vital position could leave and the water quality could drop.
hence the if
also Sydney is pretty disgusting so it’sn’t hard for treated water to improve the quality
but you’re right, Australians want coal burning fascists so we’re doubtful it’ll be continued improvement
That’s black and white thinking.
Just because you want details of what is proposed. Or have questions about how quality control will be maintained does not mean Australians want coal burning fascists to continue.
It just means folks have questions about what is involved.
How will quality be maintained?
What are the potential downsides?
For those who don’t understand the processes involved, how can they access the information?
If things go wrong how would that look like to those living close by?
If there are huge advantages how will that look like to those living close by?
If you understand how important this particular proposal why don’t you explain it?
We need to get rid of the coal burning fascists. A lack of knowledge (for some) has resulted in our current situation. Surely questions and engagement is to be encouraged?
Your base knowledge is not everyone else’s base knowledge.
Some research of which individuals and companies are involved and how much profit they stand to make might be warranted as well.
Questions don’t mean that folks are automatically rejecting a proposal. It means they are asking questions.
Having lived without a kitchen, a laundry in a caravan for almost a year (losing 90% my stuff) for almost a year due to extreme weather events. I am pretty keen to see the coal burning fascists lose.
But I don’t have to not ask questions or query for things to improve. I thought the opposite would be true.
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
How sure can you be that is an honest representation?
Some one who is in a vital position could leave and the water quality could drop.
hence the if
also Sydney is pretty disgusting so it’sn’t hard for treated water to improve the quality
but you’re right, Australians want coal burning fascists so we’re doubtful it’ll be continued improvement
That’s black and white thinking.
Just because you want details of what is proposed. Or have questions about how quality control will be maintained does not mean Australians want coal burning fascists to continue.
It just means folks have questions about what is involved.
How will quality be maintained?
What are the potential downsides?
For those who don’t understand the processes involved, how can they access the information?
If things go wrong how would that look like to those living close by?
If there are huge advantages how will that look like to those living close by?
If you understand how important this particular proposal why don’t you explain it?
We need to get rid of the coal burning fascists. A lack of knowledge (for some) has resulted in our current situation. Surely questions and engagement is to be encouraged?
Your base knowledge is not everyone else’s base knowledge.
Some research of which individuals and companies are involved and how much profit they stand to make might be warranted as well.
Questions don’t mean that folks are automatically rejecting a proposal. It means they are asking questions.
Having lived without a kitchen, a laundry in a caravan for almost a year (losing 90% my stuff) for almost a year due to extreme weather events. I am pretty keen to see the coal burning fascists lose.
But I don’t have to not ask questions or query for things to improve. I thought the opposite would be true.
on the face of it perhaps, however the features that challenge this allegedly innocent reading of the article are
one, the media publishing it in a “balanced” way, not actually answering the questions but putting claims and uncertainties on equal footing
two, the prevalence of for example anti vaccination great defenders of freedom, “just asking questions”
outside the article sure, your kilometric may vary, hoarses four coarses, this advice contains general information provided as a guide only and readers should consider their own individual circumstances
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:
hence the if
also Sydney is pretty disgusting so it’sn’t hard for treated water to improve the quality
but you’re right, Australians want coal burning fascists so we’re doubtful it’ll be continued improvement
That’s black and white thinking.
Just because you want details of what is proposed. Or have questions about how quality control will be maintained does not mean Australians want coal burning fascists to continue.
It just means folks have questions about what is involved.
How will quality be maintained?
What are the potential downsides?
For those who don’t understand the processes involved, how can they access the information?
If things go wrong how would that look like to those living close by?
If there are huge advantages how will that look like to those living close by?
If you understand how important this particular proposal why don’t you explain it?
We need to get rid of the coal burning fascists. A lack of knowledge (for some) has resulted in our current situation. Surely questions and engagement is to be encouraged?
Your base knowledge is not everyone else’s base knowledge.
Some research of which individuals and companies are involved and how much profit they stand to make might be warranted as well.
Questions don’t mean that folks are automatically rejecting a proposal. It means they are asking questions.
Having lived without a kitchen, a laundry in a caravan for almost a year (losing 90% my stuff) for almost a year due to extreme weather events. I am pretty keen to see the coal burning fascists lose.
But I don’t have to not ask questions or query for things to improve. I thought the opposite would be true.
on the face of it perhaps, however the features that challenge this allegedly innocent reading of the article are
one, the media publishing it in a “balanced” way, not actually answering the questions but putting claims and uncertainties on equal footing
two, the prevalence of for example anti vaccination great defenders of freedom, “just asking questions”
outside the article sure, your kilometric may vary, hoarses four coarses, this advice contains general information provided as a guide only and readers should consider their own individual circumstances
Anti vaxxers have access to the science if they choose to read and explore.
And anti vaxxers aren’t asking questions in good faith.
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
That’s black and white thinking.
Just because you want details of what is proposed. Or have questions about how quality control will be maintained does not mean Australians want coal burning fascists to continue.
It just means folks have questions about what is involved.
How will quality be maintained?
What are the potential downsides?
For those who don’t understand the processes involved, how can they access the information?
If things go wrong how would that look like to those living close by?
If there are huge advantages how will that look like to those living close by?
If you understand how important this particular proposal why don’t you explain it?
We need to get rid of the coal burning fascists. A lack of knowledge (for some) has resulted in our current situation. Surely questions and engagement is to be encouraged?
Your base knowledge is not everyone else’s base knowledge.
Some research of which individuals and companies are involved and how much profit they stand to make might be warranted as well.
Questions don’t mean that folks are automatically rejecting a proposal. It means they are asking questions.
Having lived without a kitchen, a laundry in a caravan for almost a year (losing 90% my stuff) for almost a year due to extreme weather events. I am pretty keen to see the coal burning fascists lose.
But I don’t have to not ask questions or query for things to improve. I thought the opposite would be true.
on the face of it perhaps, however the features that challenge this allegedly innocent reading of the article are
one, the media publishing it in a “balanced” way, not actually answering the questions but putting claims and uncertainties on equal footing
two, the prevalence of for example anti vaccination great defenders of freedom, “just asking questions”
outside the article sure, your kilometric may vary, hoarses four coarses, this advice contains general information provided as a guide only and readers should consider their own individual circumstances
Anti vaxxers have access to the science if they choose to read and explore.
And anti vaxxers aren’t asking questions in good faith.
agreed so how do we tell the difference
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:
on the face of it perhaps, however the features that challenge this allegedly innocent reading of the article are
one, the media publishing it in a “balanced” way, not actually answering the questions but putting claims and uncertainties on equal footing
two, the prevalence of for example anti vaccination great defenders of freedom, “just asking questions”
outside the article sure, your kilometric may vary, hoarses four coarses, this advice contains general information provided as a guide only and readers should consider their own individual circumstances
Anti vaxxers have access to the science if they choose to read and explore.
And anti vaxxers aren’t asking questions in good faith.
agreed so how do we tell the difference
I don’t think there’s a lot of anti vaxxers involved in discussing alternative sources of energy.
However, just under half billion dollars is spent on Climate Change Denial each year. How we sort out folks funded by those income streams I have no idea.
I suppose this is a weather thread.
A list of Environmental Matters
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
Put the trees back!
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
And, just what do you propose to do about all of that?
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
And, just what do you propose to do about all of that?
Turn every one responsible into a newt.
Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
And, just what do you propose to do about all of that?
Turn every one responsible into a newt.
Put their Carbon back in the ground.
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
- Carbon and soot from increased rocket launches.
did it get any votes
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
And, just what do you propose to do about all of that?
play team sports
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
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roughbarked said:
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
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That’s a dodgy link.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
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That’s a dodgy link.
Works for me. https://substack.com/@theplanet/note/c-332659272?r=87l773&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
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That’s a dodgy link.
Works for me. https://substack.com/@theplanet/note/c-332659272?r=87l773&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Doesn’t work for me. Delivers something entirely different – US political content.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:That’s a dodgy link.
Works for me. https://substack.com/@theplanet/note/c-332659272?r=87l773&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Doesn’t work for me. Delivers something entirely different – US political content.
Alexander Verbeek
6h
Screen Skills 📲
☕️ Daybreak Notes & Beans
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
The photo was taken in August at more than 900 meters elevation, well above where the species has historically been found. The find came out of an Indigenous-led conservation effort in the Iraya Mangyan ancestral domain, working with the Center for Conservation Innovations Philippines.
One photograph can’t tell us how many birds are left, and the unusual elevation raises its own question: has the loss of lowland forest pushed the surviving population higher up the mountain? But after twenty years of silence, this bird is still out there.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Works for me. https://substack.com/@theplanet/note/c-332659272?r=87l773&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Doesn’t work for me. Delivers something entirely different – US political content.
Alexander Verbeek
6h
Screen Skills 📲☕️ Daybreak Notes & Beans
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
The photo was taken in August at more than 900 meters elevation, well above where the species has historically been found. The find came out of an Indigenous-led conservation effort in the Iraya Mangyan ancestral domain, working with the Center for Conservation Innovations Philippines.
One photograph can’t tell us how many birds are left, and the unusual elevation raises its own question: has the loss of lowland forest pushed the surviving population higher up the mountain? But after twenty years of silence, this bird is still out there.
I think it may be nailed to that tree.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Works for me. https://substack.com/@theplanet/note/c-332659272?r=87l773&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Doesn’t work for me. Delivers something entirely different – US political content.
Alexander Verbeek
6h
Screen Skills 📲☕️ Daybreak Notes & Beans
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
The photo was taken in August at more than 900 meters elevation, well above where the species has historically been found. The find came out of an Indigenous-led conservation effort in the Iraya Mangyan ancestral domain, working with the Center for Conservation Innovations Philippines.
One photograph can’t tell us how many birds are left, and the unusual elevation raises its own question: has the loss of lowland forest pushed the surviving population higher up the mountain? But after twenty years of silence, this bird is still out there.
Ta. I had had a read about them. I was commenting about the link.
Peak Warming Man said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:Doesn’t work for me. Delivers something entirely different – US political content.
Alexander Verbeek
6h
Screen Skills 📲☕️ Daybreak Notes & Beans
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
The photo was taken in August at more than 900 meters elevation, well above where the species has historically been found. The find came out of an Indigenous-led conservation effort in the Iraya Mangyan ancestral domain, working with the Center for Conservation Innovations Philippines.
One photograph can’t tell us how many birds are left, and the unusual elevation raises its own question: has the loss of lowland forest pushed the surviving population higher up the mountain? But after twenty years of silence, this bird is still out there.
I think it may be nailed to that tree.
Right through its heart.
so it’s safest if we CU in the NT then
LOL
alleged
