Date: 16/08/2026 14:21:18
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2420879
Subject: Environment 2026
Swarms of tiny robots remove microplastics from soil and water
Microplastics, which are plastic particles under 5 millimeters, are a major and growing threat in both soil and water. They damage soil fertility, disrupt nutrient cycling, harm aquatic and terrestrial life, and can move through the food chain. That makes cleaning them up an urgent priority.
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Date: 16/08/2026 14:38:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2420887
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Ancient forests took 100,000 years to recover from the last global warming period similar to today – Wyoming fossils reveal what happened
Fifty-six million years ago, Earth’s forests reached a tipping point. They had grown dense, lush canopies at the start of one of Earth’s most intense episodes of greenhouse warming. But those canopies began to thin.
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Date: 16/08/2026 14:40:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2420888
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ancient forests took 100,000 years to recover from the last global warming period similar to today – Wyoming fossils reveal what happened
Fifty-six million years ago, Earth’s forests reached a tipping point. They had grown dense, lush canopies at the start of one of Earth’s most intense episodes of greenhouse warming. But those canopies began to thin.
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Do some forests recover more quickly than that?
Date: 16/08/2026 15:00:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2420899
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ancient forests took 100,000 years to recover from the last global warming period similar to today – Wyoming fossils reveal what happened
Fifty-six million years ago, Earth’s forests reached a tipping point. They had grown dense, lush canopies at the start of one of Earth’s most intense episodes of greenhouse warming. But those canopies began to thin.
More…
Do some forests recover more quickly than that?
Depends on the cause and the severity of their decline.
From that article:
Our study shows that carbon dioxide emissions have pushed forests beyond their physiological limits before, triggering changes that ripple from vegetation to rivers and across entire landscapes. It also shows that forests are remarkably resilient when given time to recover, but what counts as time is far longer than a human lifespan – it requires thousands of generations.
Today, human-caused carbon emissions and warming are unfolding vastly faster than during the PETM. The fossil record reminds us that forests can recover, but only if humanity avoids pushing them beyond thresholds from which recovery takes tens of thousands of years.
Date: 16/08/2026 17:00:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 2420962
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ancient forests took 100,000 years to recover from the last global warming period similar to today – Wyoming fossils reveal what happened
Fifty-six million years ago, Earth’s forests reached a tipping point. They had grown dense, lush canopies at the start of one of Earth’s most intense episodes of greenhouse warming. But those canopies began to thin.
More…
Do some forests recover more quickly than that?
It is complicated.
Date: 16/08/2026 17:05:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2420965
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ancient forests took 100,000 years to recover from the last global warming period similar to today – Wyoming fossils reveal what happened
Fifty-six million years ago, Earth’s forests reached a tipping point. They had grown dense, lush canopies at the start of one of Earth’s most intense episodes of greenhouse warming. But those canopies began to thin.
More…
Do some forests recover more quickly than that?
Depends on the cause and the severity of their decline.
From that article:
Our study shows that carbon dioxide emissions have pushed forests beyond their physiological limits before, triggering changes that ripple from vegetation to rivers and across entire landscapes. It also shows that forests are remarkably resilient when given time to recover, but what counts as time is far longer than a human lifespan – it requires thousands of generations.
Today, human-caused carbon emissions and warming are unfolding vastly faster than during the PETM. The fossil record reminds us that forests can recover, but only if humanity avoids pushing them beyond thresholds from which recovery takes tens of thousands of years.
Yeah. I was once asked how long it would take trees [;anted to solve the salinity problems. My answer was well, the forests we cleared had been there for thousands of years and individual trees were at least a thousand years old. So that’s how long it will take.
Date: 17/08/2026 12:20:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2421194
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 17/08/2026 12:32:33
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2421199
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 17/08/2026 22:17:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2421380
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Seaweed-inspired mesh captures microplastics from 5 mm down to tens of nanometers
A team of US scientists has developed a biodegradable mesh inspired by tangled seaweed that can capture microplastics ranging from millimeter-sized fragments to particles just tens of nanometers wide.
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Date: 21/08/2026 09:01:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2422348
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 21/08/2026 09:14:26
From: Michael V
ID: 2422353
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:

Nods.
Date: 21/08/2026 09:17:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 2422356
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:

Nods.
Ways to never admit wrongness.
Date: 21/08/2026 09:21:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 2422358
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Queensland scientists now believe there are three distinct species of the so-called “vegan Dracula” fish.
Lampreys are nicknamed vampire fish because they have sharp teeth and feed on the blood of other fish, but these are non-parasitic.
‘Link’:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-21/queensland-home-to-three-varieties-of-vegan-dracula-lampreys/107045122
Date: 21/08/2026 09:23:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2422359
Subject: re: Environment 2026
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:

Nods.
Ways to never admit wrongness.
yous laugh but we keep hearing advertisements on radio that say a bunch of those things
Date: 21/08/2026 09:24:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2422360
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Nods.
Ways to never admit wrongness.
yous laugh but we keep hearing advertisements on radio that say a bunch of those things
Who said I was laughing?
Date: 22/08/2026 00:06:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2422652
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Animals have been eating nature’s original bioplastic for millions of years
Nature invented biodegradable plastic long before humans did—and animals may have been feeding on it for hundreds of millions of years. Researchers discovered that dozens of animal species possess enzymes capable of breaking down microbial bioplastics called PHAs, a talent once thought to belong only to microorganisms.
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Date: 22/08/2026 12:54:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2422732
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Hidden Structures in Clouds May Solve a Longstanding Mystery About Rainfall
It’s well known that where there’s smoke there’s fire, but did you know that where there’s rain there’s ice?
Or so the conventional thinking goes, as atmospheric ice crystals allow raindrops to grow large and heavy enough to fall from cold clouds.
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Date: 22/08/2026 13:06:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2422734
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
Hidden Structures in Clouds May Solve a Longstanding Mystery About Rainfall
It’s well known that where there’s smoke there’s fire, but did you know that where there’s rain there’s ice?
Or so the conventional thinking goes, as atmospheric ice crystals allow raindrops to grow large and heavy enough to fall from cold clouds.
More…

A CloudKite test flight. This unique device is designed to explore the relationships between cloud microphysics and turbulence. (MPI-DS)

An illustration of cloud types by height. (Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.)
Date: 22/08/2026 13:16:56
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2422737
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Related article to Ancient forests took 100,000 years to recover from the last global warming period similar to today – Wyoming fossils reveal what happened
Forests hit by global warming could grow back in the future

Evidence from 56 million-year-old leaves suggests that forests that have struggled and declined due to rising global temperatures could grow back in the future if temperatures decline. The research also suggests that higher atmospheric carbon dioxide levels may not stimulate forest growth, but
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Date: 22/08/2026 13:41:00
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2422745
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
Hidden Structures in Clouds May Solve a Longstanding Mystery About Rainfall
It’s well known that where there’s smoke there’s fire, but did you know that where there’s rain there’s ice?
Or so the conventional thinking goes, as atmospheric ice crystals allow raindrops to grow large and heavy enough to fall from cold clouds.
More…
In many years of flying I don’t recall encountering any ice in smaller cloud, but certainly some in thunderstorms. The problem with aircraft radar is that it detect rain but not ice. The problem with that is in a pitch-black night when you’re in cloud and there’s nothing to see outside, if the radar picks up a thunderstorm (which is very easy to do) you have to do two things –
- If your path is anywhere near it, you should always fly upwind of it as they can spit out hail downwind for kilometres. Hail can destroy many parts of the aircraft very quickly.
- If you just leave the radar sitting as it is, usually with a few degrees pitched down, quite often the thunderstorm will slowly disappear. That’s just the radar beam being focused above the rain as the plan gets closer and the danger is that it’s not picking up the hail/ice in the tops of the cloud and you fly right through it. Then bad things can happen.
So you have to change the pitch down angle of the radar head to get a picture of how tall the cloud is likely to be. Then quite often just change course to go around it upwind anyway.
Date: 22/08/2026 13:45:07
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2422747
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:

An illustration of cloud types by height. (Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.)
FWIW that’s only a small thunderstorm. The biggest one I’ve ever seen was coming back from Townsville to Brisbane in a Citation jet at 39,000’. I estimated that we were no more than about 2/3’s the way up it.
But strangely the thunderstorms in PNG were a bit of a toothless tiger. Sure, lots of rain but not very strong turbulence and little if any real ice. On some of the medivacs I did, for expediency when getting to the destination airport to pick up the patient, I’d flying through the edges of the storms (they were huge in width on the radar) and never had a problem. Just turned the ignition on in the engines to make sure they didn’t flame out.
Date: 22/08/2026 15:00:17
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2422762
Subject: re: Environment 2026

Three days in with the new solar power system and it’s quite pleasing so far.
Date: 22/08/2026 16:09:50
From: Michael V
ID: 2422815
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Spiny Norman said:
Three days in with the new solar power system and it’s quite pleasing so far.
Do you have cloud there today? It is overcast and gloomy here.
Date: 22/08/2026 16:16:12
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2422819
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
Three days in with the new solar power system and it’s quite pleasing so far.
Do you have cloud there today? It is overcast and gloomy here.
Yeah it’s cloudy. But the panels should be making more than what they are. According to the phone app nothing is being returned to the grid so I called the company yesterday to find out what’s going on. They’ve yet to get back to me, but it’s very important that we get a good feed-back into the grid.
Date: 25/08/2026 10:25:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2423616
Subject: re: Environment 2026
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-25/global-famine-fears-as-wars-and-el-nino-fuel-food-shortages/107072816
In a normal year, Australia supplies 10 to 15 per cent of the world’s wheat market. But this year is expected to be anything but normal. The total winter crop, including wheat, barley and canola, is likely to be about 21 per cent down on last year.
duh war tariffs and fossil burns will fix this
Date: 29/08/2026 23:10:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425149
Subject: re: Environment 2026
good good
Sydney is currently forecast to reach 24–27°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which are the first three days of spring. This is around 4–7°C above average for this time of year. The last time Sydney reached at least 24°C on the first three days of spring was in 1969. If the city’s temperature manages to climb above 24.8°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which is possible, it will be the city’s warmest start to spring in 161 years. Other areas in eastern and southeastern Australia will also get a taste of the early-season warmth next week. Maximum temperatures in Melbourne and Adelaide are forecast to reach around 21–22°C next Tuesday, while Hobart should reach about 19°C. These temperatures are about 3–4°C above average for a September day.
Date: 30/08/2026 09:22:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 2425223
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
good good
Sydney is currently forecast to reach 24–27°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which are the first three days of spring. This is around 4–7°C above average for this time of year. The last time Sydney reached at least 24°C on the first three days of spring was in 1969. If the city’s temperature manages to climb above 24.8°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which is possible, it will be the city’s warmest start to spring in 161 years. Other areas in eastern and southeastern Australia will also get a taste of the early-season warmth next week. Maximum temperatures in Melbourne and Adelaide are forecast to reach around 21–22°C next Tuesday, while Hobart should reach about 19°C. These temperatures are about 3–4°C above average for a September day.
The rest of spring will also be hotter than it has ever been.
Date: 30/08/2026 11:21:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425246
Subject: re: Environment 2026
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
good good
Sydney is currently forecast to reach 24–27°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which are the first three days of spring. This is around 4–7°C above average for this time of year. The last time Sydney reached at least 24°C on the first three days of spring was in 1969. If the city’s temperature manages to climb above 24.8°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which is possible, it will be the city’s warmest start to spring in 161 years. Other areas in eastern and southeastern Australia will also get a taste of the early-season warmth next week. Maximum temperatures in Melbourne and Adelaide are forecast to reach around 21–22°C next Tuesday, while Hobart should reach about 19°C. These temperatures are about 3–4°C above average for a September day.
The rest of spring will also be hotter than it has ever been.
Time to vote in some fascists who in the short term will burn more coal but then they’ll finally solve the problem by getting into deep trouble and getting a thoumillion people killed¡
Date: 31/08/2026 05:25:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425450
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 31/08/2026 12:28:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425531
Subject: re: Environment 2026
LOL

Date: 31/08/2026 19:50:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425638
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
good good
Sydney is currently forecast to reach 24–27°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which are the first three days of spring. This is around 4–7°C above average for this time of year. The last time Sydney reached at least 24°C on the first three days of spring was in 1969. If the city’s temperature manages to climb above 24.8°C between Tuesday and Thursday next week, which is possible, it will be the city’s warmest start to spring in 161 years. Other areas in eastern and southeastern Australia will also get a taste of the early-season warmth next week. Maximum temperatures in Melbourne and Adelaide are forecast to reach around 21–22°C next Tuesday, while Hobart should reach about 19°C. These temperatures are about 3–4°C above average for a September day.
The rest of spring will also be hotter than it has ever been.
Time to vote in some fascists who in the short term will burn more coal but then they’ll finally solve the problem by getting into deep trouble and getting a thoumillion people killed¡
guess the locals will be supporting environmentalist policies and governance then
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-30/horsehoe-bay-erosion-to-shrink-port-elliot-beach-sa/106995272
LOL

don’t say we didn’t fucking warn all of yous
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-31/one-nation-victoria-energy-policy-announcement/107097686
Date: 1/09/2026 11:58:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2425751
Subject: re: Environment 2026
alleged

well they were wrong
“few centuries” fknlol
Date: 1/09/2026 12:06:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2425756
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
alleged

well they were wrong
“few centuries” fknlol
Those Kiwis were pretty smart back then.
Other than when it comes to estimating timing of future events.
Date: 3/09/2026 07:18:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2426176
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 3/09/2026 07:31:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 2426180
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
pretty sure there’s only one good answer to this
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-03/winter-delivers-record-low-snow-and-warmth-to-australian-alps/107108342
we should elect a bunch of fascists who want to burn coal
Politics is turning into a game of snap. The Coalition are going to remove 80% of the tobacco excise.
Date: 3/09/2026 13:40:35
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2426266
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:

No sign of warming there at all.
Date: 3/09/2026 13:47:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2426267
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:

No sign of warming there at all.
it’s been worse
Date: 3/09/2026 14:14:56
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2426271
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:

No sign of warming there at all.
It’s peaked.
Date: 3/09/2026 14:26:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2426272
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 3/09/2026 15:25:30
From: Michael V
ID: 2426280
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:

No sign of warming there at all.
Here, you left something off:
/TIC
Date: 3/09/2026 15:32:40
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2426281
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:

No sign of warming there at all.
Here, you left something off:
/TIC
You didn’t notice the virtual /TIC which is automatically added by inference whenever I post anything from mr. Spencer?
Date: 3/09/2026 15:42:09
From: Michael V
ID: 2426287
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:

No sign of warming there at all.
Here, you left something off:
/TIC
You didn’t notice the virtual /TIC which is automatically added by inference whenever I post anything from mr. Spencer?
No, no I didn’t. Sorry.
Date: 3/09/2026 15:56:46
From: ms spock
ID: 2426302
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest global temperature records from Roy Spencer:

No sign of warming there at all.
Not even a little bit!
Date: 5/09/2026 07:18:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2426823
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 5/09/2026 07:23:26
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2426826
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 5/09/2026 07:39:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2426829
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 5/09/2026 07:40:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 2426832
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-05/heat-thunderstorms-flooding-snow-for-eastern-australia-weather/107117906
If it snows here, I know the climate is well and truly fucked.
Looking at clouds yesterday, I said to my friend, “Looks like snow clouds going somewhere”.
Date: 6/09/2026 08:16:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427158
Subject: re: Environment 2026
LOL

Date: 6/09/2026 08:20:53
From: Michael V
ID: 2427159
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
LOL

Fail.
Date: 6/09/2026 09:05:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2427171
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Article link
A record El Niño brews in the Pacific. The world is feeling the first impacts
Climate scientists have been closely monitoring what is happening off Australia’s east coast over recent months and are increasingly concerned by what they are seeing. Pacific Ocean temperatures, a key driver of El Niño, are rising at an extraordinary pace and starting to enter uncharted territory.
More…
Date: 6/09/2026 09:22:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427179
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL

Fail.
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
Date: 6/09/2026 09:25:41
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2427180
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL

Fail.
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
Somehow they’ll find the money to reverse osmose water for data centre use. No one needs clean drinking water, right?
Date: 6/09/2026 09:45:13
From: ms spock
ID: 2427184
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL

Fail.
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
How sure can you be that is an honest representation?
Some one who is in a vital position could leave and the water quality could drop.
Date: 6/09/2026 09:54:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2427191
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Fail.
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
Somehow they’ll find the money to reverse osmose water for data centre use. No one needs clean drinking water, right?
How many Data centres in Australia collect rain 💧 on their roofs?
Whats the average size of a data centre.
The average data center covers roughly 100,000 square feet, so that is a fair amount of water catchment which can be recycled over and over.
Date: 6/09/2026 09:57:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427194
Subject: re: Environment 2026
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Fail.
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
How sure can you be that is an honest representation?
Some one who is in a vital position could leave and the water quality could drop.
hence the if
also Sydney is pretty disgusting so it’sn’t hard for treated water to improve the quality
but you’re right, Australians want coal burning fascists so we’re doubtful it’ll be continued improvement
Date: 6/09/2026 09:59:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427195
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Fail.
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
Somehow they’ll find the money to reverse osmose water for data centre use. No one needs clean drinking water, right?
we suppose in principle if both the data and the osmose are mandatorily powered by renewables then we’d be accepting of it
Date: 6/09/2026 11:03:40
From: ms spock
ID: 2427205
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:
speaking of
Project delivery lead Caine Mertens told the ABC the highly treated wastewater would be cleaner than the current river water and would improve local water quality. “The facility will treat wastewater to an advanced standard using reverse osmosis before releasing,” he said.
Ian Wright is a former Sydney Water scientist who spent 18 years with the company, and is now an associate professor and water science researcher at Western Sydney University. He said treating raw effluent reliably was difficult, and expressed concern with the proposal. “To put treated water, treated from sewage, into the Parramatta River is actually unbelievable to me,” Professor Wright said.
Local resident Andrew Yeung shared his concerns, given the area’s high recreational use. “We’ve got swimming areas, three downstream, and a junior sailing club, as well as three boat ramps,” he said. “We’re very concerned about potential for a combination of factors heading over a tipping point and creating an environmental disaster.
so is it going to be reverse osmosed or not
because if that’s an honest representation then how is it going to be worse
How sure can you be that is an honest representation?
Some one who is in a vital position could leave and the water quality could drop.
hence the if
also Sydney is pretty disgusting so it’sn’t hard for treated water to improve the quality
but you’re right, Australians want coal burning fascists so we’re doubtful it’ll be continued improvement
That’s black and white thinking.
Just because you want details of what is proposed. Or have questions about how quality control will be maintained does not mean Australians want coal burning fascists to continue.
It just means folks have questions about what is involved.
How will quality be maintained?
What are the potential downsides?
For those who don’t understand the processes involved, how can they access the information?
If things go wrong how would that look like to those living close by?
If there are huge advantages how will that look like to those living close by?
If you understand how important this particular proposal why don’t you explain it?
We need to get rid of the coal burning fascists. A lack of knowledge (for some) has resulted in our current situation. Surely questions and engagement is to be encouraged?
Your base knowledge is not everyone else’s base knowledge.
Some research of which individuals and companies are involved and how much profit they stand to make might be warranted as well.
Questions don’t mean that folks are automatically rejecting a proposal. It means they are asking questions.
Having lived without a kitchen, a laundry in a caravan for almost a year (losing 90% my stuff) for almost a year due to extreme weather events. I am pretty keen to see the coal burning fascists lose.
But I don’t have to not ask questions or query for things to improve. I thought the opposite would be true.
Date: 6/09/2026 11:54:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427213
Subject: re: Environment 2026
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
How sure can you be that is an honest representation?
Some one who is in a vital position could leave and the water quality could drop.
hence the if
also Sydney is pretty disgusting so it’sn’t hard for treated water to improve the quality
but you’re right, Australians want coal burning fascists so we’re doubtful it’ll be continued improvement
That’s black and white thinking.
Just because you want details of what is proposed. Or have questions about how quality control will be maintained does not mean Australians want coal burning fascists to continue.
It just means folks have questions about what is involved.
How will quality be maintained?
What are the potential downsides?
For those who don’t understand the processes involved, how can they access the information?
If things go wrong how would that look like to those living close by?
If there are huge advantages how will that look like to those living close by?
If you understand how important this particular proposal why don’t you explain it?
We need to get rid of the coal burning fascists. A lack of knowledge (for some) has resulted in our current situation. Surely questions and engagement is to be encouraged?
Your base knowledge is not everyone else’s base knowledge.
Some research of which individuals and companies are involved and how much profit they stand to make might be warranted as well.
Questions don’t mean that folks are automatically rejecting a proposal. It means they are asking questions.
Having lived without a kitchen, a laundry in a caravan for almost a year (losing 90% my stuff) for almost a year due to extreme weather events. I am pretty keen to see the coal burning fascists lose.
But I don’t have to not ask questions or query for things to improve. I thought the opposite would be true.
on the face of it perhaps, however the features that challenge this allegedly innocent reading of the article are
one, the media publishing it in a “balanced” way, not actually answering the questions but putting claims and uncertainties on equal footing
two, the prevalence of for example anti vaccination great defenders of freedom, “just asking questions”
outside the article sure, your kilometric may vary, hoarses four coarses, this advice contains general information provided as a guide only and readers should consider their own individual circumstances
Date: 6/09/2026 14:09:09
From: ms spock
ID: 2427238
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:
hence the if
also Sydney is pretty disgusting so it’sn’t hard for treated water to improve the quality
but you’re right, Australians want coal burning fascists so we’re doubtful it’ll be continued improvement
That’s black and white thinking.
Just because you want details of what is proposed. Or have questions about how quality control will be maintained does not mean Australians want coal burning fascists to continue.
It just means folks have questions about what is involved.
How will quality be maintained?
What are the potential downsides?
For those who don’t understand the processes involved, how can they access the information?
If things go wrong how would that look like to those living close by?
If there are huge advantages how will that look like to those living close by?
If you understand how important this particular proposal why don’t you explain it?
We need to get rid of the coal burning fascists. A lack of knowledge (for some) has resulted in our current situation. Surely questions and engagement is to be encouraged?
Your base knowledge is not everyone else’s base knowledge.
Some research of which individuals and companies are involved and how much profit they stand to make might be warranted as well.
Questions don’t mean that folks are automatically rejecting a proposal. It means they are asking questions.
Having lived without a kitchen, a laundry in a caravan for almost a year (losing 90% my stuff) for almost a year due to extreme weather events. I am pretty keen to see the coal burning fascists lose.
But I don’t have to not ask questions or query for things to improve. I thought the opposite would be true.
on the face of it perhaps, however the features that challenge this allegedly innocent reading of the article are
one, the media publishing it in a “balanced” way, not actually answering the questions but putting claims and uncertainties on equal footing
two, the prevalence of for example anti vaccination great defenders of freedom, “just asking questions”
outside the article sure, your kilometric may vary, hoarses four coarses, this advice contains general information provided as a guide only and readers should consider their own individual circumstances
Anti vaxxers have access to the science if they choose to read and explore.
And anti vaxxers aren’t asking questions in good faith.
Date: 6/09/2026 14:42:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427242
Subject: re: Environment 2026
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
That’s black and white thinking.
Just because you want details of what is proposed. Or have questions about how quality control will be maintained does not mean Australians want coal burning fascists to continue.
It just means folks have questions about what is involved.
How will quality be maintained?
What are the potential downsides?
For those who don’t understand the processes involved, how can they access the information?
If things go wrong how would that look like to those living close by?
If there are huge advantages how will that look like to those living close by?
If you understand how important this particular proposal why don’t you explain it?
We need to get rid of the coal burning fascists. A lack of knowledge (for some) has resulted in our current situation. Surely questions and engagement is to be encouraged?
Your base knowledge is not everyone else’s base knowledge.
Some research of which individuals and companies are involved and how much profit they stand to make might be warranted as well.
Questions don’t mean that folks are automatically rejecting a proposal. It means they are asking questions.
Having lived without a kitchen, a laundry in a caravan for almost a year (losing 90% my stuff) for almost a year due to extreme weather events. I am pretty keen to see the coal burning fascists lose.
But I don’t have to not ask questions or query for things to improve. I thought the opposite would be true.
on the face of it perhaps, however the features that challenge this allegedly innocent reading of the article are
one, the media publishing it in a “balanced” way, not actually answering the questions but putting claims and uncertainties on equal footing
two, the prevalence of for example anti vaccination great defenders of freedom, “just asking questions”
outside the article sure, your kilometric may vary, hoarses four coarses, this advice contains general information provided as a guide only and readers should consider their own individual circumstances
Anti vaxxers have access to the science if they choose to read and explore.
And anti vaxxers aren’t asking questions in good faith.
agreed so how do we tell the difference
Date: 6/09/2026 17:08:36
From: ms spock
ID: 2427267
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:
on the face of it perhaps, however the features that challenge this allegedly innocent reading of the article are
one, the media publishing it in a “balanced” way, not actually answering the questions but putting claims and uncertainties on equal footing
two, the prevalence of for example anti vaccination great defenders of freedom, “just asking questions”
outside the article sure, your kilometric may vary, hoarses four coarses, this advice contains general information provided as a guide only and readers should consider their own individual circumstances
Anti vaxxers have access to the science if they choose to read and explore.
And anti vaxxers aren’t asking questions in good faith.
agreed so how do we tell the difference
I don’t think there’s a lot of anti vaxxers involved in discussing alternative sources of energy.
However, just under half billion dollars is spent on Climate Change Denial each year. How we sort out folks funded by those income streams I have no idea.
Date: 6/09/2026 17:57:33
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2427278
Subject: re: Environment 2026
I suppose this is a weather thread.

Date: 8/09/2026 18:44:03
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2427768
Subject: re: Environment 2026
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
Date: 8/09/2026 18:48:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 2427772
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
Put the trees back!
Date: 8/09/2026 18:48:33
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2427774
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
And, just what do you propose to do about all of that?
Date: 8/09/2026 18:55:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2427779
Subject: re: Environment 2026
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
And, just what do you propose to do about all of that?
Turn every one responsible into a newt.
Date: 8/09/2026 18:56:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 2427782
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
And, just what do you propose to do about all of that?
Turn every one responsible into a newt.
Put their Carbon back in the ground.
Date: 8/09/2026 19:27:07
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2427789
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
- Carbon and soot from increased rocket launches.
Date: 9/09/2026 00:02:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427808
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
- Carbon and soot from increased rocket launches.
did it get any votes
Date: 9/09/2026 00:03:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2427810
Subject: re: Environment 2026
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
A list of Environmental Matters
- Air pollution.
- Atmosphere warming.
- Biodiversity loss.
- Bushfire.
- Carbon dioxide (CO2).
- Climate change.
- Deforestation.
- El Niño.
- Floods.
- Fossil fuels.
- ICE poles melting.
- La Niña.
- Methane.
- Nitrous oxide.
- Ocean Acidification.
- Oceans warming.
- Oil spills and ships on the ocean floor leaking oil.
- Over farming.
- Over Mining.
- Over Overfishing.
- Over population.
- Ozone hole depletion.
- Plastics in the environment.
- Radio active waste and radio active fallout.
- Rising sea levels.
- Soil degradation and erosion.
- Space debris.
- Textile waste.
- Toxic chemicals.
- Unsustainable agriculture practices.
- Water pollution.
And, just what do you propose to do about all of that?
play team sports
Date: 9/09/2026 12:32:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 2427953
Subject: re: Environment 2026
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
More
Date: 9/09/2026 12:41:37
From: Michael V
ID: 2427961
Subject: re: Environment 2026
roughbarked said:
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
More
That’s a dodgy link.
Date: 9/09/2026 13:08:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 2427981
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
More
That’s a dodgy link.
Works for me. https://substack.com/@theplanet/note/c-332659272?r=87l773&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Date: 9/09/2026 13:41:50
From: Michael V
ID: 2427993
Subject: re: Environment 2026
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
More
That’s a dodgy link.
Works for me. https://substack.com/@theplanet/note/c-332659272?r=87l773&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Doesn’t work for me. Delivers something entirely different – US political content.
Date: 9/09/2026 13:49:24
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2428000
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
That’s a dodgy link.
Works for me. https://substack.com/@theplanet/note/c-332659272?r=87l773&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Doesn’t work for me. Delivers something entirely different – US political content.
Alexander Verbeek
6h
Screen Skills 📲
☕️ Daybreak Notes & Beans
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
The photo was taken in August at more than 900 meters elevation, well above where the species has historically been found. The find came out of an Indigenous-led conservation effort in the Iraya Mangyan ancestral domain, working with the Center for Conservation Innovations Philippines.
One photograph can’t tell us how many birds are left, and the unusual elevation raises its own question: has the loss of lowland forest pushed the surviving population higher up the mountain? But after twenty years of silence, this bird is still out there.

Date: 9/09/2026 13:52:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2428001
Subject: re: Environment 2026
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Works for me. https://substack.com/@theplanet/note/c-332659272?r=87l773&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Doesn’t work for me. Delivers something entirely different – US political content.
Alexander Verbeek
6h
Screen Skills 📲
☕️ Daybreak Notes & Beans
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
The photo was taken in August at more than 900 meters elevation, well above where the species has historically been found. The find came out of an Indigenous-led conservation effort in the Iraya Mangyan ancestral domain, working with the Center for Conservation Innovations Philippines.
One photograph can’t tell us how many birds are left, and the unusual elevation raises its own question: has the loss of lowland forest pushed the surviving population higher up the mountain? But after twenty years of silence, this bird is still out there.

I think it may be nailed to that tree.
Date: 9/09/2026 14:06:43
From: Michael V
ID: 2428009
Subject: re: Environment 2026
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Works for me. https://substack.com/@theplanet/note/c-332659272?r=87l773&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Doesn’t work for me. Delivers something entirely different – US political content.
Alexander Verbeek
6h
Screen Skills 📲
☕️ Daybreak Notes & Beans
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
The photo was taken in August at more than 900 meters elevation, well above where the species has historically been found. The find came out of an Indigenous-led conservation effort in the Iraya Mangyan ancestral domain, working with the Center for Conservation Innovations Philippines.
One photograph can’t tell us how many birds are left, and the unusual elevation raises its own question: has the loss of lowland forest pushed the surviving population higher up the mountain? But after twenty years of silence, this bird is still out there.

Ta. I had had a read about them. I was commenting about the link.
Date: 9/09/2026 14:07:10
From: Michael V
ID: 2428010
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Peak Warming Man said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
Doesn’t work for me. Delivers something entirely different – US political content.
Alexander Verbeek
6h
Screen Skills 📲
☕️ Daybreak Notes & Beans
🐦 The critically endangered Mindoro bleeding-heart pigeon just appeared on a camera trap in the Philippines, the first confirmed photo in about two decades. The bird lives only on the island of Mindoro and gets its name from a reddish-orange patch on its pale chest that looks like an open wound.
The photo was taken in August at more than 900 meters elevation, well above where the species has historically been found. The find came out of an Indigenous-led conservation effort in the Iraya Mangyan ancestral domain, working with the Center for Conservation Innovations Philippines.
One photograph can’t tell us how many birds are left, and the unusual elevation raises its own question: has the loss of lowland forest pushed the surviving population higher up the mountain? But after twenty years of silence, this bird is still out there.

I think it may be nailed to that tree.
Right through its heart.
Date: 10/09/2026 09:52:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 2428204
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 10/09/2026 10:02:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428208
Subject: re: Environment 2026
so it’s safest if we CU in the NT then
Date: 10/09/2026 14:50:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428280
Subject: re: Environment 2026
LOL

alleged
Date: 10/09/2026 20:08:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2428399
Subject: re: Environment 2026
good, good


Date: 14/09/2026 14:34:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2429580
Subject: re: Environment 2026
worth
Now a court has fined Yi Wang $187,500 for his role in organising and carrying out the destruction of 287 trees from council-owned foreshore bushland at Woodford Bay in Longueville in late 2023.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/aug/09/trees-vandalism-lane-cove-council-sydney-gardener-fined-court-longueville-ntwnfb
When it sold in 2014 for $7.6m, real estate agents described the Lucretia Avenue property as an “exclusive waterfront” residence commanding “water views from every room”. It boasted a private beach and was “bordering lush reserves”.
less than a medicare levy with surcharge
Date: 14/09/2026 14:38:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2429581
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
worth
Now a court has fined Yi Wang $187,500 for his role in organising and carrying out the destruction of 287 trees from council-owned foreshore bushland at Woodford Bay in Longueville in late 2023.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/aug/09/trees-vandalism-lane-cove-council-sydney-gardener-fined-court-longueville-ntwnfb
When it sold in 2014 for $7.6m, real estate agents described the Lucretia Avenue property as an “exclusive waterfront” residence commanding “water views from every room”. It boasted a private beach and was “bordering lush reserves”.
less than a medicare levy with surcharge
They’ll be first up against the wall come the glorious revolution.
Date: 14/09/2026 15:45:58
From: Michael V
ID: 2429595
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
worth
Now a court has fined Yi Wang $187,500 for his role in organising and carrying out the destruction of 287 trees from council-owned foreshore bushland at Woodford Bay in Longueville in late 2023.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/aug/09/trees-vandalism-lane-cove-council-sydney-gardener-fined-court-longueville-ntwnfb
When it sold in 2014 for $7.6m, real estate agents described the Lucretia Avenue property as an “exclusive waterfront” residence commanding “water views from every room”. It boasted a private beach and was “bordering lush reserves”.
less than a medicare levy with surcharge
I missed the news that somebody had been caught for this offence.
Date: 14/09/2026 18:19:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2429633
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
worth
Now a court has fined Yi Wang $187,500 for his role in organising and carrying out the destruction of 287 trees from council-owned foreshore bushland at Woodford Bay in Longueville in late 2023.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/aug/09/trees-vandalism-lane-cove-council-sydney-gardener-fined-court-longueville-ntwnfb
When it sold in 2014 for $7.6m, real estate agents described the Lucretia Avenue property as an “exclusive waterfront” residence commanding “water views from every room”. It boasted a private beach and was “bordering lush reserves”.
less than a medicare levy with surcharge
I missed the news that somebody had been caught for this offence.
yes, we only found this article when we read the more recent abc one about building more housing and risking losing trees
Date: 17/09/2026 18:45:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2430543
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Australia has lost 60% of its hives since 2022 — Why midsummer is the most dangerous time for the bees still flying, and what you can do about it in 10 seconds.
Australian summers have gone quiet. The hum that used to fill every backyard from Boxing Day right through to March is missing off a lot of streets now. Since a parasite called varroa turned up at the Port of Newcastle in June 2022, at least 60% of this country’s hives have gone — not one in ten. Closer to two in three
More…
Date: 19/09/2026 18:34:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2431159
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Rivers may be carrying more microplastics into the world’s oceans than previously thought
Microplastics are a modern environmental menace and a potential threat to human health. These tiny pieces of plastic, measuring from 1 to 5,000 micrometers, come mainly from larger plastics as well as sources such as paints and cosmetics. They are found in almost every corner of the planet, and a new study published in Science suggests rivers may be carrying far more of them into the ocean than previously thought.
More…
Date: 19/09/2026 18:35:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2431162
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Record-breaking levels of plastic found in seabirds, with almost 900 pieces found in one bird alone
For more than a decade, it was thought that the world’s most plastic-polluted birds couldn’t get any more contaminated by the man-made material. But then, from 2023–2026, the record was broken every single year.
More…
Date: 19/09/2026 20:25:32
From: ms spock
ID: 2431183
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
Record-breaking levels of plastic found in seabirds, with almost 900 pieces found in one bird alone
For more than a decade, it was thought that the world’s most plastic-polluted birds couldn’t get any more contaminated by the man-made material. But then, from 2023–2026, the record was broken every single year.
More…
Their chicks starved because their parents brought back plastic bits.
Date: 21/09/2026 10:40:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2431650
Subject: re: Environment 2026
seems these geniuses talk about the suppliers a lot (which yes does contribute to the problem) but
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-21/ultra-fast-fashion-shopping-behaviour-study-environment-ethics/107171048
A new study published in the Journal of Global Fashion Marketing this week found millennials, who frequently expressed concern about ethical and sustainability issues, often did not translate this concern into purchasing behaviour.
if you read the quotes it seems half of them are quite inelastic to supply





LOL
Date: 22/09/2026 17:56:45
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2432232
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 22/09/2026 18:36:02
From: Michael V
ID: 2432252
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Divine Angel said:

It may be quite different in a couple of years.
Date: 22/09/2026 18:37:27
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2432253
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:

It may be quite different in a couple of years.
Because the new President won’t have a Sharpie to keep them away?
Date: 22/09/2026 18:43:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2432256
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:

It may be quite different in a couple of years.
Because the new President won’t have a Sharpie to keep them away?
Heck yeah.
Date: 22/09/2026 19:48:52
From: Ian
ID: 2432268
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Divine Angel said:

El Niño typically reduces the number of hurricanes in the Atlantic basin by increasing vertical wind shear that tears apart developing storms.
Date: 23/09/2026 21:26:52
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2432745
Subject: re: Environment 2026
I’m no climatologist but I don’t think “Godzilla-level El Niño” is official climate terminology.

Date: 25/09/2026 19:50:35
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2433553
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Solar farms could do more than generate clean energy—they could also cut dust pollution
Solar farms built around China’s Gobi Desert could have the unexpected benefit of reducing the dust pollution reaching cities across northern China.
More…
Date: 25/09/2026 19:55:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2433557
Subject: re: Environment 2026
LA fire smoke triggered surge in airborne toxins: How long did they stay?
A new study from UCLA provides insights into how the January 2025 Eaton fire affected air quality downwind, showing how levels of toxic airborne contaminants spiked and then dissipated as the burning died down. The research is published in the journal ACS ES&T Air.
More…
Date: 27/09/2026 08:25:23
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2433963
Subject: re: Environment 2026
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/16/14/2174
Link
Simple Summary
Public debate in Australia often focuses on pet cats as a major threat to wildlife. While cats can affect wildlife in some situations, this study looked at what brings threatened animals into wildlife care in New South Wales. We analyzed 11 years of records from the NSW Wildlife Rehabilitation Data Dashboard, covering 52,475 rescued animals from 158 threatened species. This is the first statewide study to look specifically at threatened species in these rescue records. Importantly, these records only include animals that were found, reported, and brought into care, mostly in places where people live, work, travel, or visit. They do not show all wildlife deaths or the total impact of any threat beyond the rehabilitation dataset. Outcomes for rescued threatened animals were often poor: 24.1% were released alive, 58.5% died, and 17.5% had another recorded outcome. The most common recorded reason for rescue was Unknown, followed by Entanglement, Weather Event, Abandoned or Orphaned young, Unsuitable Environment, and Motor-Vehicle Collisions. Together, these accounted for 68% of threatened species rescues. Animal attacks made up 4.4% of recorded rescues. Dog attacks were more than three times as common as cat attacks, while cat attacks accounted for 0.6% of threatened species rescues. These findings show that preventing common recorded rescue causes, such as entanglement, heat stress, unsafe environments, and road injuries, could help reduce the number of threatened animals needing care.
Date: 27/09/2026 08:35:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 2433964
Subject: re: Environment 2026
JudgeMental said:
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/16/14/2174
Link
Simple Summary
Public debate in Australia often focuses on pet cats as a major threat to wildlife. While cats can affect wildlife in some situations, this study looked at what brings threatened animals into wildlife care in New South Wales. We analyzed 11 years of records from the NSW Wildlife Rehabilitation Data Dashboard, covering 52,475 rescued animals from 158 threatened species. This is the first statewide study to look specifically at threatened species in these rescue records. Importantly, these records only include animals that were found, reported, and brought into care, mostly in places where people live, work, travel, or visit. They do not show all wildlife deaths or the total impact of any threat beyond the rehabilitation dataset. Outcomes for rescued threatened animals were often poor: 24.1% were released alive, 58.5% died, and 17.5% had another recorded outcome. The most common recorded reason for rescue was Unknown, followed by Entanglement, Weather Event, Abandoned or Orphaned young, Unsuitable Environment, and Motor-Vehicle Collisions. Together, these accounted for 68% of threatened species rescues. Animal attacks made up 4.4% of recorded rescues. Dog attacks were more than three times as common as cat attacks, while cat attacks accounted for 0.6% of threatened species rescues. These findings show that preventing common recorded rescue causes, such as entanglement, heat stress, unsafe environments, and road injuries, could help reduce the number of threatened animals needing care.
There’s a lot left oit pf that simple summary.
Date: 27/09/2026 09:01:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2433970
Subject: re: Environment 2026
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/16/14/2174
Link
Simple Summary
Public debate in Australia often focuses on pet cats as a major threat to wildlife. While cats can affect wildlife in some situations, this study looked at what brings threatened animals into wildlife care in New South Wales. We analyzed 11 years of records from the NSW Wildlife Rehabilitation Data Dashboard, covering 52,475 rescued animals from 158 threatened species. This is the first statewide study to look specifically at threatened species in these rescue records. Importantly, these records only include animals that were found, reported, and brought into care, mostly in places where people live, work, travel, or visit. They do not show all wildlife deaths or the total impact of any threat beyond the rehabilitation dataset. Outcomes for rescued threatened animals were often poor: 24.1% were released alive, 58.5% died, and 17.5% had another recorded outcome. The most common recorded reason for rescue was Unknown, followed by Entanglement, Weather Event, Abandoned or Orphaned young, Unsuitable Environment, and Motor-Vehicle Collisions. Together, these accounted for 68% of threatened species rescues. Animal attacks made up 4.4% of recorded rescues. Dog attacks were more than three times as common as cat attacks, while cat attacks accounted for 0.6% of threatened species rescues. These findings show that preventing common recorded rescue causes, such as entanglement, heat stress, unsafe environments, and road injuries, could help reduce the number of threatened animals needing care.
There’s a lot left oit pf that simple summary.
Maybe cats are more clandestine and successful hunters than the summary suppose.
And more inclined to eat the evidence.
Date: 27/09/2026 09:11:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2433975
Subject: re: Environment 2026
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/16/14/2174
Link
Simple Summary
Public debate in Australia often focuses on pet cats as a major threat to wildlife. While cats can affect wildlife in some situations, this study looked at what brings threatened animals into wildlife care in New South Wales. We analyzed 11 years of records from the NSW Wildlife Rehabilitation Data Dashboard, covering 52,475 rescued animals from 158 threatened species. This is the first statewide study to look specifically at threatened species in these rescue records. Importantly, these records only include animals that were found, reported, and brought into care, mostly in places where people live, work, travel, or visit. They do not show all wildlife deaths or the total impact of any threat beyond the rehabilitation dataset. Outcomes for rescued threatened animals were often poor: 24.1% were released alive, 58.5% died, and 17.5% had another recorded outcome. The most common recorded reason for rescue was Unknown, followed by Entanglement, Weather Event, Abandoned or Orphaned young, Unsuitable Environment, and Motor-Vehicle Collisions. Together, these accounted for 68% of threatened species rescues. Animal attacks made up 4.4% of recorded rescues. Dog attacks were more than three times as common as cat attacks, while cat attacks accounted for 0.6% of threatened species rescues. These findings show that preventing common recorded rescue causes, such as entanglement, heat stress, unsafe environments, and road injuries, could help reduce the number of threatened animals needing care.
There’s a lot left oit pf that simple summary.
Maybe cats are more clandestine and successful hunters than the summary suppose.
And more inclined to eat the evidence.

Date: 27/09/2026 09:36:41
From: Michael V
ID: 2433977
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
There’s a lot left oit pf that simple summary.
Maybe cats are more clandestine and successful hunters than the summary suppose.
And more inclined to eat the evidence.

I don’t know whether this cat survived or not.

Date: 27/09/2026 10:21:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 2433984
Subject: re: Environment 2026
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/16/14/2174
Link
Simple Summary
Public debate in Australia often focuses on pet cats as a major threat to wildlife. While cats can affect wildlife in some situations, this study looked at what brings threatened animals into wildlife care in New South Wales. We analyzed 11 years of records from the NSW Wildlife Rehabilitation Data Dashboard, covering 52,475 rescued animals from 158 threatened species. This is the first statewide study to look specifically at threatened species in these rescue records. Importantly, these records only include animals that were found, reported, and brought into care, mostly in places where people live, work, travel, or visit. They do not show all wildlife deaths or the total impact of any threat beyond the rehabilitation dataset. Outcomes for rescued threatened animals were often poor: 24.1% were released alive, 58.5% died, and 17.5% had another recorded outcome. The most common recorded reason for rescue was Unknown, followed by Entanglement, Weather Event, Abandoned or Orphaned young, Unsuitable Environment, and Motor-Vehicle Collisions. Together, these accounted for 68% of threatened species rescues. Animal attacks made up 4.4% of recorded rescues. Dog attacks were more than three times as common as cat attacks, while cat attacks accounted for 0.6% of threatened species rescues. These findings show that preventing common recorded rescue causes, such as entanglement, heat stress, unsafe environments, and road injuries, could help reduce the number of threatened animals needing care.
There’s a lot left oit pf that simple summary.
Maybe cats are more clandestine and successful hunters than the summary suppose.
And more inclined to eat the evidence.
As far as a a rough guess goes, that ooks to be on the mark.
Date: 27/09/2026 11:05:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2434019
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
Maybe cats are more clandestine and successful hunters than the summary suppose.
And more inclined to eat the evidence.

I don’t know whether this cat survived or not.

Attitude wins.
Date: 29/09/2026 09:51:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2434503
Subject: re: Environment 2026
alleged

Date: 29/09/2026 10:48:17
From: Michael V
ID: 2434523
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
alleged

Alarming.
Date: 29/09/2026 10:53:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2434526
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
alleged

Alarming.
The Materhorn in Autumn in years gone by:

I wonder how the Australian snow is going these days.
Date: 29/09/2026 10:55:56
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2434530
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
alleged

Alarming.
The Materhorn in Autumn in years gone by:

I wonder how the Australian snow is going these days.
Not long ago I learnt that the Australian Alps get more snow than their namesake in Europe.
Date: 29/09/2026 10:56:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 2434531
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
alleged

Alarming.
The Materhorn in Autumn in years gone by:

I wonder how the Australian snow is going these days.
Probably still more than Switzerland.
Date: 29/09/2026 10:58:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 2434533
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Alarming.
The Materhorn in Autumn in years gone by:

I wonder how the Australian snow is going these days.
Not long ago I learnt that the Australian Alps get more snow than their namesake in Europe.
But teah, Switzerland is about the size of a postage stamp on the Australian map.
Date: 29/09/2026 11:07:28
From: Michael V
ID: 2434542
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Alarming.
The Materhorn in Autumn in years gone by:

I wonder how the Australian snow is going these days.
Not long ago I learnt that the Australian Alps get more snow than their namesake in Europe.
Maybe not more snow, but definitely more skiable snow.
Date: 29/09/2026 11:12:40
From: buffy
ID: 2434548
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
alleged

Alarming.
The Materhorn in Autumn in years gone by:

I wonder how the Australian snow is going these days.
Some years good. Some years not so good. If you like snow.
Date: 29/09/2026 11:14:00
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2434549
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Materhorn in Autumn in years gone by:

I wonder how the Australian snow is going these days.
Not long ago I learnt that the Australian Alps get more snow than their namesake in Europe.
Maybe not more snow, but definitely more skiable snow.
No, the Australian Alps do not receive more snow than the European Alps; that claim is a long-standing weather myth.
The Facts
• The Myth: A popular piece of Australian folklore claims that the Snowy Mountains get more annual snowfall or have a larger snow-covered area than Switzerland or the Swiss Alps.
• The Reality: The Swiss Alps cover a much larger geographical area (roughly double the size of the entire Australian Alps bioregion) and hold vastly greater volumes of snow, depth, and permanent glacial ice.
• Scale: Australia’s snow-covered terrain is scattered and restricted to high-altitude pockets in New South Wales and Victoria, whereas the European Alps feature massive, continuous alpine ranges
…
shakes fist at wherever I heard this recently
Date: 29/09/2026 11:20:06
From: buffy
ID: 2434556
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Not long ago I learnt that the Australian Alps get more snow than their namesake in Europe.
Maybe not more snow, but definitely more skiable snow.
No, the Australian Alps do not receive more snow than the European Alps; that claim is a long-standing weather myth.
The Facts
• The Myth: A popular piece of Australian folklore claims that the Snowy Mountains get more annual snowfall or have a larger snow-covered area than Switzerland or the Swiss Alps.
• The Reality: The Swiss Alps cover a much larger geographical area (roughly double the size of the entire Australian Alps bioregion) and hold vastly greater volumes of snow, depth, and permanent glacial ice.
• Scale: Australia’s snow-covered terrain is scattered and restricted to high-altitude pockets in New South Wales and Victoria, whereas the European Alps feature massive, continuous alpine ranges
…
shakes fist at wherever I heard this recently
OI! Tassie gets snow!
Date: 29/09/2026 11:21:55
From: Ian
ID: 2434557
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Not long ago I learnt that the Australian Alps get more snow than their namesake in Europe.
Maybe not more snow, but definitely more skiable snow.
No, the Australian Alps do not receive more snow than the European Alps; that claim is a long-standing weather myth.
The Facts
• The Myth: A popular piece of Australian folklore claims that the Snowy Mountains get more annual snowfall or have a larger snow-covered area than Switzerland or the Swiss Alps.
• The Reality: The Swiss Alps cover a much larger geographical area (roughly double the size of the entire Australian Alps bioregion) and hold vastly greater volumes of snow, depth, and permanent glacial ice.
• Scale: Australia’s snow-covered terrain is scattered and restricted to high-altitude pockets in New South Wales and Victoria, whereas the European Alps feature massive, continuous alpine ranges
…
shakes fist at wherever I heard this recently
What about the snow fields of Tasmania and WA?
Date: 29/09/2026 11:25:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2434558
Subject: re: Environment 2026
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Maybe not more snow, but definitely more skiable snow.
No, the Australian Alps do not receive more snow than the European Alps; that claim is a long-standing weather myth.
The Facts
• The Myth: A popular piece of Australian folklore claims that the Snowy Mountains get more annual snowfall or have a larger snow-covered area than Switzerland or the Swiss Alps.
• The Reality: The Swiss Alps cover a much larger geographical area (roughly double the size of the entire Australian Alps bioregion) and hold vastly greater volumes of snow, depth, and permanent glacial ice.
• Scale: Australia’s snow-covered terrain is scattered and restricted to high-altitude pockets in New South Wales and Victoria, whereas the European Alps feature massive, continuous alpine ranges
…
shakes fist at wherever I heard this recently
OI! Tassie gets snow!
The Bingbot says it’s true, then immediately links to a page saying it isn’t true.
Date: 29/09/2026 11:28:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 2434559
Subject: re: Environment 2026
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Maybe not more snow, but definitely more skiable snow.
No, the Australian Alps do not receive more snow than the European Alps; that claim is a long-standing weather myth.
The Facts
• The Myth: A popular piece of Australian folklore claims that the Snowy Mountains get more annual snowfall or have a larger snow-covered area than Switzerland or the Swiss Alps.
• The Reality: The Swiss Alps cover a much larger geographical area (roughly double the size of the entire Australian Alps bioregion) and hold vastly greater volumes of snow, depth, and permanent glacial ice.
• Scale: Australia’s snow-covered terrain is scattered and restricted to high-altitude pockets in New South Wales and Victoria, whereas the European Alps feature massive, continuous alpine ranges
…
shakes fist at wherever I heard this recently
OI! Tassie gets snow!
So does WA.
Date: 29/09/2026 11:33:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2434562
Subject: re: Environment 2026
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Maybe not more snow, but definitely more skiable snow.
No, the Australian Alps do not receive more snow than the European Alps; that claim is a long-standing weather myth.
The Facts
• The Myth: A popular piece of Australian folklore claims that the Snowy Mountains get more annual snowfall or have a larger snow-covered area than Switzerland or the Swiss Alps.
• The Reality: The Swiss Alps cover a much larger geographical area (roughly double the size of the entire Australian Alps bioregion) and hold vastly greater volumes of snow, depth, and permanent glacial ice.
• Scale: Australia’s snow-covered terrain is scattered and restricted to high-altitude pockets in New South Wales and Victoria, whereas the European Alps feature massive, continuous alpine ranges
…
shakes fist at wherever I heard this recently
OI! Tassie gets snow!
wait it’s almost as if the internet is full of disinformation
Date: 29/09/2026 11:35:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 2434564
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
No, the Australian Alps do not receive more snow than the European Alps; that claim is a long-standing weather myth.
The Facts
• The Myth: A popular piece of Australian folklore claims that the Snowy Mountains get more annual snowfall or have a larger snow-covered area than Switzerland or the Swiss Alps.
• The Reality: The Swiss Alps cover a much larger geographical area (roughly double the size of the entire Australian Alps bioregion) and hold vastly greater volumes of snow, depth, and permanent glacial ice.
• Scale: Australia’s snow-covered terrain is scattered and restricted to high-altitude pockets in New South Wales and Victoria, whereas the European Alps feature massive, continuous alpine ranges
…
shakes fist at wherever I heard this recently
OI! Tassie gets snow!
wait it’s almost as if the internet is full of disinformation
Nah. Can’t be.
Date: 29/09/2026 11:42:49
From: Michael V
ID: 2434571
Subject: re: Environment 2026
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
No, the Australian Alps do not receive more snow than the European Alps; that claim is a long-standing weather myth.
The Facts
• The Myth: A popular piece of Australian folklore claims that the Snowy Mountains get more annual snowfall or have a larger snow-covered area than Switzerland or the Swiss Alps.
• The Reality: The Swiss Alps cover a much larger geographical area (roughly double the size of the entire Australian Alps bioregion) and hold vastly greater volumes of snow, depth, and permanent glacial ice.
• Scale: Australia’s snow-covered terrain is scattered and restricted to high-altitude pockets in New South Wales and Victoria, whereas the European Alps feature massive, continuous alpine ranges
…
shakes fist at wherever I heard this recently
OI! Tassie gets snow!
So does WA.
I remember Steve telling me that snow has been recorded by the BoM at the Gold Coast.
Date: 29/09/2026 11:43:46
From: Michael V
ID: 2434573
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
No, the Australian Alps do not receive more snow than the European Alps; that claim is a long-standing weather myth.
The Facts
• The Myth: A popular piece of Australian folklore claims that the Snowy Mountains get more annual snowfall or have a larger snow-covered area than Switzerland or the Swiss Alps.
• The Reality: The Swiss Alps cover a much larger geographical area (roughly double the size of the entire Australian Alps bioregion) and hold vastly greater volumes of snow, depth, and permanent glacial ice.
• Scale: Australia’s snow-covered terrain is scattered and restricted to high-altitude pockets in New South Wales and Victoria, whereas the European Alps feature massive, continuous alpine ranges
…
shakes fist at wherever I heard this recently
OI! Tassie gets snow!
The Bingbot says it’s true, then immediately links to a page saying it isn’t true.
WTF?
Shakes fist at AI.
Date: 29/09/2026 11:45:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2434574
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
OI! Tassie gets snow!
So does WA.
I remember Steve telling me that snow has been recorded by the BoM at the Gold Coast.
Yeah, Qld gets snow, Stanthorpe and around there. Not much, and about as often as a government keeps promise, bit it does happen.
Even been known to fall in the higher parts of Toowoomba.
Date: 29/09/2026 11:49:22
From: Michael V
ID: 2434577
Subject: re: Environment 2026
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
So does WA.
I remember Steve telling me that snow has been recorded by the BoM at the Gold Coast.
Yeah, Qld gets snow, Stanthorpe and around there. Not much, and about as often as a government keeps promise, bit it does happen.
Even been known to fall in the higher parts of Toowoomba.
Yeah, I knew about Stanthorpe etc (it’s their height, right), but I was amazed about the Gold Coast.
Date: 29/09/2026 11:54:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2434578
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Of course Tasmania gets snow. It’s even snowed in this village several times since I’ve lived here.
In South Mole Creek the snow was occasionally heavy enough to build actual snowmen, albeit rather small ones.
Date: 29/09/2026 12:09:22
From: Michael V
ID: 2434580
Subject: re: Environment 2026
https://www.weatherarmidale.com/Qldsnow5.pdf
Interestingly there are records of snow in Brisbane and near Mackay. But I can’t find anything about the Gold Coast. Maybe Steve was thinking Springbrook. The Big Snow of 1984 was amazing in Armidale.

Date: 29/09/2026 12:16:16
From: Ian
ID: 2434585
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Mount Lofty Ranges in SA gets a dusting of snow.
How about NT just to demonstrate how thoroughly unreliable is Witty?
Date: 29/09/2026 12:22:02
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2434586
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Ian said:
The Mount Lofty Ranges in SA gets a dusting of snow.
How about NT just to demonstrate how thoroughly unreliable is Witty?
Ummm from the beginning I was talking about the Australian Alps. So no Tassie, Mackay, down-town Adelaide, where Boris lives etc. Sometimes I really wonder about you people…
Date: 29/09/2026 12:31:13
From: Ian
ID: 2434589
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Witty Rejoinder said:
Ian said:
The Mount Lofty Ranges in SA gets a dusting of snow.
How about NT just to demonstrate how thoroughly unreliable is Witty?
Ummm from the beginning I was talking about the Australian Alps. So no Tassie, Mackay, down-town Adelaide, where Boris lives etc. Sometimes I really wonder about you people…
Ur rite…
Date: 29/09/2026 12:46:06
From: ms spock
ID: 2434592
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
OI! Tassie gets snow!
So does WA.
I remember Steve telling me that snow has been recorded by the BoM at the Gold Coast.
I have never seen it here.
Date: 29/09/2026 13:04:51
From: ms spock
ID: 2434600
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
https://www.weatherarmidale.com/Qldsnow5.pdf
Interestingly there are records of snow in Brisbane and near Mackay. But I can’t find anything about the Gold Coast. Maybe Steve was thinking Springbrook. The Big Snow of 1984 was amazing in Armidale.

Interesting
Date: 29/09/2026 13:09:31
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2434603
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Are explosives beginning to be looked on more favourably again?

Date: 29/09/2026 13:11:32
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2434604
Subject: re: Environment 2026
captain_spalding said:
Are explosives beginning to be looked on more favourably again?

Why do they take them to landfill rather than out to sea?
Date: 29/09/2026 13:12:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2434605
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Are explosives beginning to be looked on more favourably again?

Why do they take them to landfill rather than out to sea?
I dunno.
You know what councils are like – if there’s a cheap way and an expensive way…
Date: 29/09/2026 13:15:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2434607
Subject: re: Environment 2026
From Quora:
Is it true that according to NASA humankind’s emission of CO2 is trivial at about 2% compared to naturally occurring CO2 emission at 98%, and that nature doesn’t distinguish between human or natural emissions?
Yes, both things are true, but they don’t matter.
Imagine you have a credit card. Every month you spend say, 1000 dollars on it, and pay off 1000 dollars on it.
Now we’ll increase your spending by 20 dollars- just 2%, but not increase your payments.
In a year, you’ll have a balance of about 200 dollars (120+ interest) on the card
In two years, that’ll be about 500 dollars
In five years, it’ll be several thousand dollars.
Now at what point does the credit card debt become a problem? You were only spending 2% too much, until compound interest ( positive feedback loops) bit you in the arse.
Of course, cutting your spending and dealing with the debt sooner rather than later is much less painful in the long run.
Date: 29/09/2026 13:16:24
From: Cymek
ID: 2434609
Subject: re: Environment 2026
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Are explosives beginning to be looked on more favourably again?

Why do they take them to landfill rather than out to sea?
I dunno.
You know what councils are like – if there’s a cheap way and an expensive way…
Yeah I was thinking you could drag/float it a couple of km’s out and just dump it.
Date: 29/09/2026 13:20:04
From: Michael V
ID: 2434613
Subject: re: Environment 2026
captain_spalding said:
Are explosives beginning to be looked on more favourably again?

Wasn’t one recently disposed of on the east coast by towing it 20 NM out to sea?
Date: 29/09/2026 13:20:25
From: Michael V
ID: 2434614
Subject: re: Environment 2026
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Are explosives beginning to be looked on more favourably again?

Why do they take them to landfill rather than out to sea?
I dunno.
You know what councils are like – if there’s a cheap way and an expensive way…
LOL
Date: 29/09/2026 13:26:12
From: Michael V
ID: 2434616
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Are explosives beginning to be looked on more favourably again?

Wasn’t one recently disposed of on the east coast by towing it 20 NM out to sea?
Yes:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-23/whale-washes-ashore-on-sunshine-coast-beach/107183896
Date: 29/09/2026 13:28:33
From: Cymek
ID: 2434618
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
From Quora:
Is it true that according to NASA humankind’s emission of CO2 is trivial at about 2% compared to naturally occurring CO2 emission at 98%, and that nature doesn’t distinguish between human or natural emissions?
Yes, both things are true, but they don’t matter.
Imagine you have a credit card. Every month you spend say, 1000 dollars on it, and pay off 1000 dollars on it.
Now we’ll increase your spending by 20 dollars- just 2%, but not increase your payments.
In a year, you’ll have a balance of about 200 dollars (120+ interest) on the card
In two years, that’ll be about 500 dollars
In five years, it’ll be several thousand dollars.
Now at what point does the credit card debt become a problem? You were only spending 2% too much, until compound interest ( positive feedback loops) bit you in the arse.
Of course, cutting your spending and dealing with the debt sooner rather than later is much less painful in the long run.
Why does no one ever mention the secondary bonus of pollution reduction when minimising global warming
Date: 29/09/2026 13:33:51
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2434620
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Are explosives beginning to be looked on more favourably again?

Why do they take them to landfill rather than out to sea?
getting a boat to the location of sufficient size to do the tow. still need equipment to get the whale into the sea. is the whale in a suitable condition to tow, not decomposed to a point where you’ll just pull it apart. will it sink? predators near a popular beach.
Date: 29/09/2026 13:37:45
From: ms spock
ID: 2434623
Subject: re: Environment 2026
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
So does WA.
I remember Steve telling me that snow has been recorded by the BoM at the Gold Coast.
Yeah, Qld gets snow, Stanthorpe and around there. Not much, and about as often as a government keeps promise, bit it does happen.
Even been known to fall in the higher parts of Toowoomba.
That’s amazing. I did not know.
Date: 29/09/2026 13:38:47
From: ms spock
ID: 2434625
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
I remember Steve telling me that snow has been recorded by the BoM at the Gold Coast.
Yeah, Qld gets snow, Stanthorpe and around there. Not much, and about as often as a government keeps promise, bit it does happen.
Even been known to fall in the higher parts of Toowoomba.
Yeah, I knew about Stanthorpe etc (it’s their height, right), but I was amazed about the Gold Coast.
I had no idea that could happen here.
Date: 29/09/2026 14:02:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2434638
Subject: re: Environment 2026
captain_spalding said:
Are explosives beginning to be looked on more favourably again?

Can’t they just bury it there on the beach, or will sea dogs dig it up again?
Date: 23/10/2026 10:04:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 2441427
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 4/11/2026 06:05:01
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2445047
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Collective human metabolism produces 2 billion metric tons of CO₂ a year, global study estimates
A University of Bath–led study has estimated that the carbon dioxide produced by humans as our bodies turn food into energy rose by 74% between 1985 and 2015, reaching 2.05 billion metric tons a year. Researchers say the findings could help scientists better understand where carbon comes from, where it goes and how human activity fits into the bigger picture.
More…
Date: 4/11/2026 13:39:59
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2445150
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Latest graph showing temperatures not rising from our mate Roy Spencer:

Date: 4/11/2026 14:18:39
From: Michael V
ID: 2445175
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
Latest graph showing temperatures not rising from our mate Roy Spencer:

Foot shot.
Date: 5/11/2026 19:54:35
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2445745
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 5/11/2026 20:30:35
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2445747
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 5/11/2026 20:40:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2445750
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 5/11/2026 22:18:11
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2445766
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 5/11/2026 23:29:35
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2445770
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 5/11/2026 23:49:26
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2445776
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 6/11/2026 01:14:40
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2445790
Subject: re: Environment 2026
I found another 20 which I’ll add later on.
Date: 6/11/2026 06:08:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2445795
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
I found another 20 which I’ll add later on.
thanks
Date: 7/11/2026 15:28:39
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2446438
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Microplastic pollution could be changing the color of the Pacific Ocean
Our oceans have effectively become trash dumps where massive quantities of plastic end up. So much so, in fact, that the largest offshore plastic accumulation zone has been labeled the Great Pacific Garbage Patch.
More…
Date: 7/11/2026 15:59:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2446441
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 7/11/2026 19:09:43
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2446487
Subject: re: Environment 2026
How space weather powers auroras in the sky and threatens power grids on the ground
An aurora is one of nature’s most spectacular light shows: It looks like green or red curtains rippling across the night sky. When viewed from the ground, this colorful display might seem far away and disconnected from anything happening on Earth’s surface.
More…
Date: 7/11/2026 19:13:39
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2446489
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Antarctic sea ice loss is making a vital ocean layer saltier, denser, and deeper
The oceans’ ability to store heat and carbon could be affected by changes unfolding beneath Antarctic waters. Sea ice loss there has been making a vast subsurface water layer saltier and denser while pushing it deeper, with potential consequences far beyond Antarctica.
More…
Date: 7/11/2026 20:00:22
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2446495
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 7/11/2026 20:24:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2446499
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Found another ten or so to post, I will post them later, I go back and have a look at what other related videos pop up in the list, and there is always a few that do pop up and that kind of leads to a mini Kessler Syndrome effect (Cascading Collisions) except its cascading information, and being related information, it can be easily structured into an environmental relational database.
Date: 8/11/2026 18:38:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2446778
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Red and green auroras may share electron-driven origins
With their mysterious glow and swirling veils of color, auroras enchant even experienced researchers. When a particularly intense solar storm reached Earth on the night of May 10, 2024, and relevant websites predicted auroras even for southern Lower Saxony, several researchers from the Technical University of Braunschweig, the Fraunhofer Institute for Surface Engineering and Thin Films IST, the University of Göttingen, and the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research (MPS) took to the outdoors.
More…
Date: 10/11/2026 01:11:28
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2447026
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 10/11/2026 07:40:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447038
Subject: re: Environment 2026
wait is this the same governments that
Climate Change Minister Chris Bowen has used a COP31 Opening Plenary Speech to call on nations to take faster action on climate change. Bowen is president of negotiations at this year’s climate summit. It was a role he was given after Australia ceded hosting rights to Türkiye. In the speech, Bowen said nations must move faster and scale up the use of technology. He’s called for more progress on electrification. “Whether it be glacial collapse in Nepal, heat deaths in Europe or an intensifying El Niño, climate change is here,” Bowen said.
insist on burning more coal and exporting more gas
Date: 10/11/2026 10:22:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447069
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
wait is this the same governments that
Climate Change Minister Chris Bowen has used a COP31 Opening Plenary Speech to call on nations to take faster action on climate change. Bowen is president of negotiations at this year’s climate summit. It was a role he was given after Australia ceded hosting rights to Türkiye. In the speech, Bowen said nations must move faster and scale up the use of technology. He’s called for more progress on electrification. “Whether it be glacial collapse in Nepal, heat deaths in Europe or an intensifying El Niño, climate change is here,” Bowen said.
insist on burning more coal and exporting more gas
no apparently this one is a non government politician
When asked about the Coalition’s argument that the government needs to cut back on climate change mitigation measures to rein in spending and lower inflation, Boele says she’s not buying that argument. She says fossil fuels have been a “major part” of the “savage cost of living crisis, made even worse by the war in Iran”. “So I would say to the Coalition: when you’ve got a problem created by fossil fuels about dependency on international markets, we need to double down on our energy sovereignty,” she says. “And one of the best ways to do that is to electrify our economy, to make sure that we have homegrown, Aussie, clean energy here with solar and wind.”
Date: 10/11/2026 10:31:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2447071
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
wait is this the same governments that
Climate Change Minister Chris Bowen has used a COP31 Opening Plenary Speech to call on nations to take faster action on climate change. Bowen is president of negotiations at this year’s climate summit. It was a role he was given after Australia ceded hosting rights to Türkiye. In the speech, Bowen said nations must move faster and scale up the use of technology. He’s called for more progress on electrification. “Whether it be glacial collapse in Nepal, heat deaths in Europe or an intensifying El Niño, climate change is here,” Bowen said.
insist on burning more coal and exporting more gas
no apparently this one is a non government politician
When asked about the Coalition’s argument that the government needs to cut back on climate change mitigation measures to rein in spending and lower inflation, Boele says she’s not buying that argument. She says fossil fuels have been a “major part” of the “savage cost of living crisis, made even worse by the war in Iran”. “So I would say to the Coalition: when you’ve got a problem created by fossil fuels about dependency on international markets, we need to double down on our energy sovereignty,” she says. “And one of the best ways to do that is to electrify our economy, to make sure that we have homegrown, Aussie, clean energy here with solar and wind.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolette_Boele
Date: 10/11/2026 11:07:41
From: Ian
ID: 2447075
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
wait is this the same governments that
Climate Change Minister Chris Bowen has used a COP31 Opening Plenary Speech to call on nations to take faster action on climate change. Bowen is president of negotiations at this year’s climate summit. It was a role he was given after Australia ceded hosting rights to Türkiye. In the speech, Bowen said nations must move faster and scale up the use of technology. He’s called for more progress on electrification. “Whether it be glacial collapse in Nepal, heat deaths in Europe or an intensifying El Niño, climate change is here,” Bowen said.
insist on burning more coal and exporting more gas
no apparently this one is a non government politician
When asked about the Coalition’s argument that the government needs to cut back on climate change mitigation measures to rein in spending and lower inflation, Boele says she’s not buying that argument. She says fossil fuels have been a “major part” of the “savage cost of living crisis, made even worse by the war in Iran”. “So I would say to the Coalition: when you’ve got a problem created by fossil fuels about dependency on international markets, we need to double down on our energy sovereignty,” she says. “And one of the best ways to do that is to electrify our economy, to make sure that we have homegrown, Aussie, clean energy here with solar and wind.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolette_Boele
Report on ABC radio this morning spoke of pulling warming up at about + 2.5 C sometime in the 2030s.
Is that doable using current strategies?

Date: 10/11/2026 17:47:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447303
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Ian said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
wait is this the same governments that
Climate Change Minister Chris Bowen has used a COP31 Opening Plenary Speech to call on nations to take faster action on climate change. Bowen is president of negotiations at this year’s climate summit. It was a role he was given after Australia ceded hosting rights to Türkiye. In the speech, Bowen said nations must move faster and scale up the use of technology. He’s called for more progress on electrification. “Whether it be glacial collapse in Nepal, heat deaths in Europe or an intensifying El Niño, climate change is here,” Bowen said.
insist on burning more coal and exporting more gas
no apparently this one is a non government politician
When asked about the Coalition’s argument that the government needs to cut back on climate change mitigation measures to rein in spending and lower inflation, Boele says she’s not buying that argument. She says fossil fuels have been a “major part” of the “savage cost of living crisis, made even worse by the war in Iran”. “So I would say to the Coalition: when you’ve got a problem created by fossil fuels about dependency on international markets, we need to double down on our energy sovereignty,” she says. “And one of the best ways to do that is to electrify our economy, to make sure that we have homegrown, Aussie, clean energy here with solar and wind.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolette_Boele
Report on ABC radio this morning spoke of pulling warming up at about + 2.5 C sometime in the 2030s.
Is that doable using current strategies?

oh it really is the same governments that insist on burning more coal and exporting more gas, damn we are so surprised
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/mount-pleasant-mine-expansion-laws-chris-minns/107369370
Date: 10/11/2026 19:49:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447354
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
Ian said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolette_Boele
Report on ABC radio this morning spoke of pulling warming up at about + 2.5 C sometime in the 2030s.
Is that doable using current strategies?

oh it really is the same governments that insist on burning more coal and exporting more gas, damn we are so surprised
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/mount-pleasant-mine-expansion-laws-chris-minns/107369370
OK fine
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/baldon-wind-farm-approved-south-west-rez/107368696
Date: 10/11/2026 20:14:27
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2447362
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 10/11/2026 20:37:54
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2447363
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 10/11/2026 20:53:11
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2447364
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 10/11/2026 21:04:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2447365
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 10/11/2026 21:14:24
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2447369
Subject: re: Environment 2026
It’s become a good resource as a database. I’m rather pleased.
Date: 10/11/2026 22:04:28
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2447410
Subject: re: Environment 2026
FWIW the Nullarbor cave locations.

Date: 10/11/2026 22:10:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 2447418
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW the Nullarbor cave locations.

There’s a bloody lot of them, eh.
Date: 10/11/2026 22:14:43
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2447423
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW the Nullarbor cave locations.

Didn’t Bruce D used to do cave diving?
Date: 10/11/2026 22:19:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 2447428
Subject: re: Environment 2026
ChrispenEvan said:
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW the Nullarbor cave locations.

Didn’t Bruce D used to do cave diving?
Spelunking, is that what it is called?
Date: 10/11/2026 22:22:05
From: btm
ID: 2447430
Subject: re: Environment 2026
ChrispenEvan said:
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW the Nullarbor cave locations.

Didn’t Bruce D used to do cave diving?
Possibly, but btm did, and still does.
Date: 10/11/2026 22:22:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 2447431
Subject: re: Environment 2026
btm said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW the Nullarbor cave locations.

Didn’t Bruce D used to do cave diving?
Possibly, but btm did, and still does.
Good to know.
Date: 10/11/2026 22:27:22
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2447433
Subject: re: Environment 2026
ChrispenEvan said:
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW the Nullarbor cave locations.

Didn’t Bruce D used to do cave diving?
The name doesn’t ring a bell sorry.
Date: 10/11/2026 22:30:40
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2447434
Subject: re: Environment 2026
btm said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW the Nullarbor cave locations.

Didn’t Bruce D used to do cave diving?
Possibly, but btm did, and still does.
Mad buggers.
Date: 10/11/2026 22:35:04
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2447435
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Spiny Norman said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW the Nullarbor cave locations.

Didn’t Bruce D used to do cave diving?
The name doesn’t ring a bell sorry.
Allen™ brother. Submariner.
Date: 10/11/2026 22:35:35
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2447436
Subject: re: Environment 2026
ChrispenEvan said:
Spiny Norman said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Didn’t Bruce D used to do cave diving?
The name doesn’t ring a bell sorry.
Allen™ brother. Submariner.
or Allan.
Date: 10/11/2026 22:35:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2447437
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW the Nullarbor cave locations.

Thousands…
Date: 10/11/2026 22:36:37
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2447438
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Tau.Neutrino said:
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW the Nullarbor cave locations.

Thousands…
I won’t be visiting each one.
Date: 11/11/2026 01:08:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2447464
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 11/11/2026 01:19:13
From: Kingy
ID: 2447467
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 11/11/2026 01:21:16
From: Kingy
ID: 2447468
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 11/11/2026 14:12:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447577
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Ian said:
Report on ABC radio this morning spoke of pulling warming up at about + 2.5 C sometime in the 2030s.
Is that doable using current strategies?

oh it really is the same governments that insist on burning more coal and exporting more gas, damn we are so surprised
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/mount-pleasant-mine-expansion-laws-chris-minns/107369370
OK fine
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/baldon-wind-farm-approved-south-west-rez/107368696
well bullshit
Analysts estimate that if the 35 per cent target was reached using only clean energy, it could cut the projected level of global warming of at least 2.6C above pre-industrial levels, based on present government policies, by 0.3C. Supporters say it is an ambitious target, requiring the world to electrify at four times the current pace. But sceptics say that if the shift to more electricity was partly based on fossil fuels, it will only lock in the prolonged use of fossil fuels.
merchants of deny defend delay doubt
Date: 11/11/2026 14:27:44
From: Cymek
ID: 2447578
Subject: re: Environment 2026
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
oh it really is the same governments that insist on burning more coal and exporting more gas, damn we are so surprised
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/mount-pleasant-mine-expansion-laws-chris-minns/107369370
OK fine
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/baldon-wind-farm-approved-south-west-rez/107368696
well bullshit
Analysts estimate that if the 35 per cent target was reached using only clean energy, it could cut the projected level of global warming of at least 2.6C above pre-industrial levels, based on present government policies, by 0.3C. Supporters say it is an ambitious target, requiring the world to electrify at four times the current pace. But sceptics say that if the shift to more electricity was partly based on fossil fuels, it will only lock in the prolonged use of fossil fuels.
merchants of deny defend delay doubt
Could be risk analysis have been conducted and its considered by the owners of said fossil fuels that it’s acceptable
They are all thinking we are rich can weather the storm and when it all goes to hell we will be dead anyway
Date: 11/11/2026 15:20:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447591
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
OK fine
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-10/baldon-wind-farm-approved-south-west-rez/107368696
well bullshit
Analysts estimate that if the 35 per cent target was reached using only clean energy, it could cut the projected level of global warming of at least 2.6C above pre-industrial levels, based on present government policies, by 0.3C. Supporters say it is an ambitious target, requiring the world to electrify at four times the current pace. But sceptics say that if the shift to more electricity was partly based on fossil fuels, it will only lock in the prolonged use of fossil fuels.
merchants of deny defend delay doubt
Could be risk analysis have been conducted and its considered by the owners of said fossil fuels that it’s acceptable
They are all thinking we are rich can weather the storm and when it all goes to hell we will be dead anyway
well it’s just stupid is what it is
what if they just assumed that data centre magic is going to double electricity use from this decade to the next, then boom they’ll be at 37% of energy consumption being electrical anyway no other changes needed
maybe they’re arguing that moving from direct dependence on fossil fuels to using electricity which currently depends on fossil fuels will somehow support the monopoly of fossil fuels in which case LOL fucking joke
Date: 12/11/2026 00:00:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2447725
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 12/11/2026 03:03:15
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2447736
Subject: re: Environment 2026
A chemical fingerprint in ancient rocks suggests plate tectonics began 2.5 billion years ago
Plate tectonics is one of the reasons Earth looks so different from its planetary neighbours.
The movement of enormous chunks of our planet’s crust builds mountain ranges, triggers earthquakes, shapes our oceans and continents, and helps regulate Earth’s climate and magnetic field over deep time
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Date: 12/11/2026 03:30:38
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2447738
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 12/11/2026 05:31:53
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2447740
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 12/11/2026 05:47:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2447741
Subject: re: Environment 2026
what’s the correct prefix for this
The 1.56km rose coral colony was discovered off the coast of the Cocos (Keeling) Islands. For comparison, the colony covers the equivalent of approximately 100 buses laid end to end and an area three times the size of the Melbourne Cricket Ground.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-11/massive-coral-colony-found-off-the-cocos-keeling-islands/107367586
Date: 14/11/2026 07:05:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2448358
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Date: 14/11/2026 09:43:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2448386
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Oceans and forests have absorbed roughly half our carbon emissions for decades, slowing climate change – but can they keep it up?
Over the past two centuries, humans have pumped billions of tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels, raising global temperatures in the process.
Luckily for humanity, Earth has done what it could to soften the impact.
The world’s oceans have absorbed 35% of carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels since 1990, our new research shows, and the forests and other plants of the world have absorbed another 13%.
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Date: 14/11/2026 09:55:35
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2448392
Subject: re: Environment 2026
The world will soon shoot past 1.5°C. What does this mean?
Did you know that global heating will unavoidably soar past the 1.5°C temperature goal over the next three to four years? This is certain, despite our efforts to address the climate crisis.
In fact, a recent United Nations report found that with current climate and energy policies, the world is on track to heat 2.6°C above industrial levels by the end of this century. This is well beyond the Paris Agreement target of 1.5°C, and we know the dangerous consequences: more forest fires, extreme weather, loss of nature and rising seas.
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Date: 14/11/2026 10:00:18
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2448396
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Global carbon emissions may have peaked in 2026 – but only time will tell
A new report suggests this year, carbon emissions may begin to trend downward for the first time.
But it’s important to take this with a grain of salt. While news reports have hailed this event, it will take years to confirm it wasn’t just a blip caused by the US–Iran war.
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Date: 14/11/2026 12:36:07
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2448456
Subject: re: Environment 2026
Direct observation of a submarine landslide reveals seafloor processes
Submarine landslides have significant implications for marine ecology and infrastructure, yet these unpredictable events have remained challenging to study. New research co-led by Newcastle University’s Dr. Sanem Acikalin and involving an international team of collaborators from 10 institutions has provided the first direct observations of these elusive events.
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Date: 14/11/2026 12:47:39
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2448463
Subject: re: Environment 2026
More Than a Billion Years of Earth’s History Is Missing – Scientists May Finally Know Why
Earth’s rocks are missing more than a billion years of history in some places, and the slow rise and fall of continents may explain how those chapters disappeared.
A study led by University of Wollongong (UOW) PhD candidate Santosh Dhungana suggests that the slow rise and fall of continents helped create the Great Unconformity, a vast gap in Earth’s geological record. Published in Nature, the research links this missing history to currents of hot rock in the mantle that moved continents vertically over hundreds of millions of years.
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