https://youtu.be/WalOeYktCZ0?si=yJQd63e_yNAsB_jZ
Australia is accelerating efforts to become a regional power
https://youtu.be/WalOeYktCZ0?si=yJQd63e_yNAsB_jZ
Australia is accelerating efforts to become a regional power
Roy Morgan says:
Despite the ALP loss in Western Australia, the ALP has gained nationally after One Nation MP David Farley says One Nation’s immigration policy is ‘not too different’ to Labor’s
In a week that saw the ALP lose a State by-election in Western Australia to One Nation, ALP primary support is up 2.5% to 29.5%, ahead of One Nation 23.5% (down 3.5%), and the L-NP Coalition 20.5% – Liberals 18% (down 0.5%) and Nationals 2.5% (unchanged), Greens, down 0.5% to 13.5%, and Independents/ Other Parties up 2% to 13% according to the Roy Morgan Poll conducted from August 24-30, 2026, with a representative Australia-wide cross-section of 1,585 electors.
https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/10328-federal-voting-intention-august-31-2026
dv said:
https://youtu.be/WalOeYktCZ0?si=yJQd63e_yNAsB_jZ
Australia is accelerating efforts to become a regional power
what we need is a good strong fascist party to cement that dominance
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
https://youtu.be/WalOeYktCZ0?si=yJQd63e_yNAsB_jZ
Australia is accelerating efforts to become a regional power
what we need is a good strong fascist party to cement that dominance
One party comes to mind.
Ian said:
Wot if we made our own submarines?
Ian said:
so we’re paying usuk for their privilege of using the great southern land as a paved paradise
SCIENCE said:
Ian said:
so we’re paying usuk for their privilege of using the great southern land as a paved paradise
We could build drones and they could park there.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ian said:
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Wot if we made our own submarines?
or purchased them from some other country that looks after its people and has industrial capacity to actually produce them
Ian said:
A few of the local residents that I know are quite in favour of it.
party_pants said:
Ian said:
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A few of the local residents that I know are quite in favour of it.
Well, in general, cities are nuclear targets not because of military facilities, but because they’re cities.
That’s how Mutually Assured Destruction works.
You say to each other, ‘don’t you dare use your atomic bombs to kill millions of our huddled masses of city-dwelling citizens, or we’ll use our atomic bombs to kill millions of your similar citizens’.
Any damage to military capabilities is just a bonus.
so good to know that
Charles Perrottet has given evidence to the NSW Independent Commission Against Corruption, where he was grilled over his wife’s earnings. Anita Perrottet received a $150,000 yearly payment for an average of 16 hours a week of consultancy work for lobbyist Jeremy Greenwood — a key member of the inquiry. Mr Perrottet is defending his wife’s earnings, describing the figure as not a “significant” amount.
for these totally not corrupt rich fucks $150000 is just peanuts
SCIENCE said:
so good to know that
Charles Perrottet has given evidence to the NSW Independent Commission Against Corruption, where he was grilled over his wife’s earnings. Anita Perrottet received a $150,000 yearly payment for an average of 16 hours a week of consultancy work for lobbyist Jeremy Greenwood — a key member of the inquiry. Mr Perrottet is defending his wife’s earnings, describing the figure as not a “significant” amount.
for these totally not corrupt rich fucks $150000 is just peanuts
For some people it is.
I can imagine a famous celebrity would earn that for a few hours work
This “surprise” the CFMEU and the building industry is corrupt and has ties to organised crime is amusing.
I remember thinking this 30 years ago with the bully tactics the union used on its members.
Of course organised crime would infiltrate such an industry
Morning pilgrims and collectors.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims and collectors.
(((waves)))
OK we’re pretty sure this excellent economic growth is thanks to the skilled management by earlier Clever Corruption Coalition governments and it just proves how shit Communism are at managing the economy because the interest rates are going to be higher
Australia’s economy grew 0.4 per cent in the June quarter, slightly beating most economist forecasts and further raising the prospect of an interest rate hike as soon as this month.

fsm said:
I wonder if her supporters are dinky dye white Aussies or include immigrants from the previous generation who themselves suffered prejudice.
One Nation’s new NSW leader Mike Newman is an investment banker who wants to ‘get rid of wokery’
Son of former ABC chair will contest seat of Cessnock in March state election and says ‘my wife’s Japanese’ so he doesn’t believe party is racist
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/aug/28/mike-newman-one-nation-nsw-leader-election-cessnock-candidate-ntnwfb
who cares, brumbies are important
Cymek said:
fsm said:
I wonder if her supporters are dinky dye white Aussies or include immigrants from the previous generation who themselves suffered prejudice.
She’s blaming te Prime minister for her own failings:
Hanson was this week directly blaming the prime minister for stirring up threats to her physical safety.
“He’s put me in such a position by this violence and this talk that’s coming out of him,” Hanson told ABC radio in Perth. “What he’s doing is putting me in a position of threats against me now that I have to have federal police protection whenever I’m out here, meeting people. It’s a shame. He’s caused this.”
When:
“Fellow Australians, if you are seeing me now, it means I have been murdered.”
Pauline Hanson famously recorded these words in a 12-minute video message nearly 30 years ago, soon after she founded One Nation.
Just briefly heard Marles speaking on the ABC, from which I gather:
All spending on defence is good (all other government spending is bad of course, goes without saying).
Cheap petrol is more important than the needless loss of lives of both Iranians and USAmericans.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just briefly heard Marles speaking on the ABC, from which I gather:
All spending on defence is good (all other government spending is bad of course, goes without saying).
Cheap petrol is more important than the needless loss of lives of both Iranians and USAmericans.
well then they should encourage uptake of battery electric vehicles which would collapse demand for fossil fuel oil and maintain low petroleum prices
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just briefly heard Marles speaking on the ABC, from which I gather:
All spending on defence is good (all other government spending is bad of course, goes without saying).
Cheap petrol is more important than the needless loss of lives of both Iranians and USAmericans.
well then they should encourage uptake of battery electric vehicles which would collapse demand for fossil fuel oil and maintain low petroleum prices
Would electric work for things like tank ?
Don’t you need the grunt of diesel for such vehicles
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:The Rev Dodgson said:
Just briefly heard Marles speaking on the ABC, from which I gather:
All spending on defence is good (all other government spending is bad of course, goes without saying).
Cheap petrol is more important than the needless loss of lives of both Iranians and USAmericans.
well then they should encourage uptake of battery electric vehicles which would collapse demand for fossil fuel oil and maintain low petroleum prices
Would electric work for things like tank ?
Don’t you need the grunt of diesel for such vehicles
With enough battery power anything is possible. Batteries provide better torque IIRC.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-03/one-third-of-lesson-time-lost-to-misbehaviour-teachers-say/107101894
Reading this article
Assuming its not already done should students sign contracts regarding behaviour
Certain number of infractions gets suspension
That’s bad for said student but may allow others to learn.
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
this is all lockdowns’ fault ¡ If we didn’t
A national survey conducted this year of more than 370 teachers has found students are missing an average of 12 weeks’ learning a year because of classroom disruptions.
have lockdowns then students would never have started misbehaving and then instead of 40 – 12 = 28 weeks of school a year we’d have 52 weeks a year ¡ We also blame vaccines
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-03/one-third-of-lesson-time-lost-to-misbehaviour-teachers-say/107101894
Reading this article
Assuming its not already done should students sign contracts regarding behaviour
Certain number of infractions gets suspension
That’s bad for said student but may allow others to learn.
Just put them all together in the same classes and then they can disrupt the same 12 weeks so it’s not as negatively impactful.
Cymek said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-03/one-third-of-lesson-time-lost-to-misbehaviour-teachers-say/107101894Reading this article
Assuming its not already done should students sign contracts regarding behaviour
Certain number of infractions gets suspension
That’s bad for said student but may allow others to learn.
The unemployables are now forced to stay until the end of year12, unless incarcerated or similar, at least in NSW.
poikilotherm said:
Cymek said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-03/one-third-of-lesson-time-lost-to-misbehaviour-teachers-say/107101894Reading this article
Assuming its not already done should students sign contracts regarding behaviour
Certain number of infractions gets suspension
That’s bad for said student but may allow others to learn.
The unemployables are now forced to stay until the end of year12, unless incarcerated or similar, at least in NSW.
And no one gets to learn as managing classroom behaviours takes up the majority of the teacher’s time.
US declares it will accelerate military presence in Australia
In short:
Defence Minister Richard Marles met with his US counterpart, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, in Washington DC and discussed US “force posture” in Australia.
Any expansion would come on top of the existing US presence in Australia, including US Marine rotations through Darwin and the creation of Submarine Rotational Force—West in WA.
What’s next?
Mr Marles also met with AI companies and flagged announcements about an expanded US military presence are expected in coming months.
ms spock said:
poikilotherm said:
Cymek said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-03/one-third-of-lesson-time-lost-to-misbehaviour-teachers-say/107101894Reading this article
Assuming its not already done should students sign contracts regarding behaviour
Certain number of infractions gets suspension
That’s bad for said student but may allow others to learn.
The unemployables are now forced to stay until the end of year12, unless incarcerated or similar, at least in NSW.
And no one gets to learn as managing classroom behaviours takes up the majority of the teacher’s time.
Not sure what solution can be offered
Is a reflection of the decay of our society.
Pathetic men who are sooky that woman are asking not be to treated like shit.
So you teach a new generation to be even worse
Spiny Norman said:
US declares it will accelerate military presence in AustraliaIn short:
Defence Minister Richard Marles met with his US counterpart, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, in Washington DC and discussed US “force posture” in Australia.Any expansion would come on top of the existing US presence in Australia, including US Marine rotations through Darwin and the creation of Submarine Rotational Force—West in WA.
What’s next?
Mr Marles also met with AI companies and flagged announcements about an expanded US military presence are expected in coming months.
What is a worry if it comes to a war with China is the USA sacrifices us and paints a target on us.
I assume its the bases we share with the USA that would be targeted with nuclear weapons
Cymek said:
ms spock said:
poikilotherm said:The unemployables are now forced to stay until the end of year12, unless incarcerated or similar, at least in NSW.
And no one gets to learn as managing classroom behaviours takes up the majority of the teacher’s time.
Not sure what solution can be offered
Is a reflection of the decay of our society.
Pathetic men who are sooky that woman are asking not be to treated like shit.
So you teach a new generation to be even worse
I heard about this on the radio news this morning. Oh how I laughed and laughed. Depends on the school; my school is quite different to Mini Me’s school.
Cymek said:
Spiny Norman said:
US declares it will accelerate military presence in AustraliaIn short:
Defence Minister Richard Marles met with his US counterpart, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, in Washington DC and discussed US “force posture” in Australia.Any expansion would come on top of the existing US presence in Australia, including US Marine rotations through Darwin and the creation of Submarine Rotational Force—West in WA.
What’s next?
Mr Marles also met with AI companies and flagged announcements about an expanded US military presence are expected in coming months.What is a worry if it comes to a war with China is the USA sacrifices us and paints a target on us.
I assume its the bases we share with the USA that would be targeted with nuclear weapons
Quite possibly. It would also depend on which way the Chinese are advancing I imagine. I suspect they’ll just try to take Taiwan and that’ll make them happy for a while. Though they aren’t like to be able to invade and take it over, too many variables against them.
If they start heading south to really grab the Spratly Islands, etc, then that puts us more on the line.
Divine Angel said:
Cymek said:
ms spock said:And no one gets to learn as managing classroom behaviours takes up the majority of the teacher’s time.
Not sure what solution can be offered
Is a reflection of the decay of our society.
Pathetic men who are sooky that woman are asking not be to treated like shit.
So you teach a new generation to be even worseI heard about this on the radio news this morning. Oh how I laughed and laughed. Depends on the school; my school is quite different to Mini Me’s school.
I was at school during the 70’s and 80’s
I don’t ever remember boys or teenagers ever being outrightly sexist or toxic towards girls or women.
I mean you had societal expectations of gender roles but even then I don’t think most of us took it seriously.

Cheesus ….
About as bright as a birthday candle at the bottom of the ocean encased in concrete.
Spiny Norman said:
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Cheesus ….
About as bright as a birthday candle at the bottom of the ocean encased in concrete.
Cash is hard to track.
Spiny Norman said:
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Cheesus ….
About as bright as a birthday candle at the bottom of the ocean encased in concrete.
I think the bank teller would prefer we went cashless for the Father’s Day stall…
Via Patrick Gorman MP on Facebook
This week we have seen two completely unacceptable political attacks on Australia’s education system.
Our schools and teachers are a national asset.
When political leaders talk down our education system, they are talking down the next generation.
Australian kids deserve better than that.
The first attack was from Senator Hanson.
She sought to blame our schools for legitimate criticism of her policy positions:
“…they’ve been misled about the truth about One Nation. It’s happening constantly, all the time in the schools…”
“All the time”?
Really Senator?
When I visit schools I see hardworking teachers and staff helping the next generation.
Maths. Science. English. And yes, teaching children how to be kind and respectful.
And then we had Senator Canavan come along.
“…they’re sick and tired of getting lectures about how bad men are at school…”
Really? Are our schools full of “lectures about how bad men are”.
I don’t know of a single school where this happens.
Do you?
I’ll say it again.
When I visit schools I see hardworking teachers and staff helping the next generation.
Maths. Science. English. And yes, teaching children how to be kind and respectful.
Here’s the problem. These Senators are not just individuals.
They are both leaders of political parties.
Their words matter.
The One Nation Party and the National Party should show a little bit of kindness and respect.
They should not talk down about schools or the teachers who work hard every day.
So let’s say thank you to our teachers.
And let’s have their backs when they become the target of immature political attacks.
Cymek said:
ms spock said:
poikilotherm said:
The unemployables are now forced to stay until the end of year12, unless incarcerated or similar, at least in NSW.
And no one gets to learn as managing classroom behaviours takes up the majority of the teacher’s time.
Not sure what solution can be offered
Is a reflection of the decay of our society.
Pathetic men who are sooky that woman are asking not be to treated like shit.
So you teach a new generation to be even worse
entertain them to death
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Cheesus ….
About as bright as a birthday candle at the bottom of the ocean encased in concrete.
Cash is hard to track.
To me it’s a evolution of currency.
Yes you could control people if you could deny access to digital currency but that doesn’t really work for spending and the economy.
so we should align ourselves harder with the overseas fascists while the local fascists grow their base, this is going to go well
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Cheesus ….
About as bright as a birthday candle at the bottom of the ocean encased in concrete.
Cash is hard to track.
To me it’s a evolution of currency.
Yes you could control people if you could deny access to digital currency but that doesn’t really work for spending and the economy.
wait is cash better for economic growth or is blockchain better for economic growth
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:Cash is hard to track.
To me it’s a evolution of currency.
Yes you could control people if you could deny access to digital currency but that doesn’t really work for spending and the economy.wait is cash better for economic growth or is blockchain better for economic growth
No, no, you’ve got the wrong end of the pineapple.
Pauline likes cash (as do more than a couple of other politicians of various stripes, and some members of several constabularies) precisely because it’s difficult to track.
Suppose that someone, who may perhaps have connections to money-laundering casinos, drug trading, gambling, or to something really reprehensible like mining, was to accidentally leave a paper bag full of $50 and $100 notes in your car after a brief social chat, with a note that said ‘to the finder, this money has no owner, please give it a good home’, well, you could take it home, and tuck it up safe and warm under your mattress, from where you could occasionally remove a few notes to cover some unexpected expenses, like a fur coat for the missus ( or the mister, nothing wrong with that), or the sudden need to purchase a second holiday home or an eleventh rental property, and you’d avoid a lot of fol-de-rol and bureaucracy about where the money came from, which could so tiresomely arise in a cashless economy.
Spiny Norman said:
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Cheesus ….
About as bright as a birthday candle at the bottom of the ocean encased in concrete.
LOLz
Divine Angel said:
Via Patrick Gorman MP on FacebookThis week we have seen two completely unacceptable political attacks on Australia’s education system.
Our schools and teachers are a national asset.
When political leaders talk down our education system, they are talking down the next generation.
Australian kids deserve better than that.
The first attack was from Senator Hanson.
She sought to blame our schools for legitimate criticism of her policy positions:
“…they’ve been misled about the truth about One Nation. It’s happening constantly, all the time in the schools…”
“All the time”?
Really Senator?
When I visit schools I see hardworking teachers and staff helping the next generation.
Maths. Science. English. And yes, teaching children how to be kind and respectful.
And then we had Senator Canavan come along.
“…they’re sick and tired of getting lectures about how bad men are at school…”
Really? Are our schools full of “lectures about how bad men are”.
I don’t know of a single school where this happens.
Do you?
I’ll say it again.
When I visit schools I see hardworking teachers and staff helping the next generation.
Maths. Science. English. And yes, teaching children how to be kind and respectful.
Here’s the problem. These Senators are not just individuals.
They are both leaders of political parties.
Their words matter.
The One Nation Party and the National Party should show a little bit of kindness and respect.
They should not talk down about schools or the teachers who work hard every day.
So let’s say thank you to our teachers.
And let’s have their backs when they become the target of immature political attacks.
Seconded!
Divine Angel said:
Via Patrick Gorman MP on FacebookThis week we have seen two completely unacceptable political attacks on Australia’s education system.
Our schools and teachers are a national asset.
When political leaders talk down our education system, they are talking down the next generation.
Australian kids deserve better than that.
The first attack was from Senator Hanson.
She sought to blame our schools for legitimate criticism of her policy positions:
“…they’ve been misled about the truth about One Nation. It’s happening constantly, all the time in the schools…”
“All the time”?
Really Senator?
When I visit schools I see hardworking teachers and staff helping the next generation.
Maths. Science. English. And yes, teaching children how to be kind and respectful.
And then we had Senator Canavan come along.
“…they’re sick and tired of getting lectures about how bad men are at school…”
Really? Are our schools full of “lectures about how bad men are”.
I don’t know of a single school where this happens.
Do you?
I’ll say it again.
When I visit schools I see hardworking teachers and staff helping the next generation.
Maths. Science. English. And yes, teaching children how to be kind and respectful.
Here’s the problem. These Senators are not just individuals.
They are both leaders of political parties.
Their words matter.
The One Nation Party and the National Party should show a little bit of kindness and respect.
They should not talk down about schools or the teachers who work hard every day.
So let’s say thank you to our teachers.
And let’s have their backs when they become the target of immature political attacks.
+1
Spiny Norman said:
Cymek said:
Spiny Norman said:
US declares it will accelerate military presence in AustraliaIn short:
Defence Minister Richard Marles met with his US counterpart, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, in Washington DC and discussed US “force posture” in Australia.Any expansion would come on top of the existing US presence in Australia, including US Marine rotations through Darwin and the creation of Submarine Rotational Force—West in WA.
What’s next?
Mr Marles also met with AI companies and flagged announcements about an expanded US military presence are expected in coming months.What is a worry if it comes to a war with China is the USA sacrifices us and paints a target on us.
I assume its the bases we share with the USA that would be targeted with nuclear weapons
Quite possibly. It would also depend on which way the Chinese are advancing I imagine. I suspect they’ll just try to take Taiwan and that’ll make them happy for a while. Though they aren’t like to be able to invade and take it over, too many variables against them.
If they start heading south to really grab the Spratly Islands, etc, then that puts us more on the line.
The Coming War on China by John Pliger is worth a watch. Link
ms spock said:
Spiny Norman said:
Cymek said:
What is a worry if it comes to a war with China is the USA sacrifices us and paints a target on us.
I assume its the bases we share with the USA that would be targeted with nuclear weapons
Quite possibly. It would also depend on which way the Chinese are advancing I imagine. I suspect they’ll just try to take Taiwan and that’ll make them happy for a while. Though they aren’t like to be able to invade and take it over, too many variables against them.
If they start heading south to really grab the Spratly Islands, etc, then that puts us more on the line.
The Coming War on China by John Pliger is worth a watch. Link
thanks
also

ms spock said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Via Patrick Gorman MP on Facebook
This week we have seen two completely unacceptable political attacks on Australia’s education system. Our schools and teachers are a national asset. When political leaders talk down our education system, they are talking down the next generation. Australian kids deserve better than that.
The first attack was from Senator Hanson. She sought to blame our schools for legitimate criticism of her policy positions: “…they’ve been misled about the truth about One Nation. It’s happening constantly, all the time in the schools…”
“All the time”? Really Senator?
When I visit schools I see hardworking teachers and staff helping the next generation. Maths. Science. English. And yes, teaching children how to be kind and respectful.
And then we had Senator Canavan come along. “…they’re sick and tired of getting lectures about how bad men are at school…”
Really? Are our schools full of “lectures about how bad men are”. I don’t know of a single school where this happens. Do you?
I’ll say it again. When I visit schools I see hardworking teachers and staff helping the next generation. Maths. Science. English. And yes, teaching children how to be kind and respectful.
Here’s the problem. These Senators are not just individuals. They are both leaders of political parties. Their words matter. The One Nation Party and the National Party should show a little bit of kindness and respect. They should not talk down about schools or the teachers who work hard every day.
So let’s say thank you to our teachers. And let’s have their backs when they become the target of immature political attacks.
Seconded!
+1
^
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-03/coalition-claims-teachers-push-political-agenda/107113438
While Senator Canavan did not offer any alternatives for respectful relationship and consent education on Thursday, he doubled down on a call for more male teachers. “Maybe we should look at getting more male teachers in. That used to be an agenda, I don’t know what’s happened to that. But maybe we should have more male role models in schools,” he told Nine.
then pay “traditionally female” jobs equal with “traditionally male” jobs and see what happens you anus
Mr Clare said the focus should not be on teachers, who he labelled “heroes”. “The bad guys here are the big tech companies, they’re the ones poisoning our kids with algorithms that are shovelling shit into their heads.”
^
She sought to blame our schools for legitimate criticism of her policy positions:
“…they’ve been misled about the truth about One Nation. It’s happening constantly, all the time in the schools…”
No Paulne. The teachers are doing their job and teaching about the real world.
roughbarked said:
She sought to blame our schools for legitimate criticism of her policy positions:“…they’ve been misled about the truth about One Nation. It’s happening constantly, all the time in the schools…”
No Paulne. The teachers are doing their job and teaching about the real world.
…when they’re not disrupted 9 minutes out of 30 by student behaviour, remember.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
She sought to blame our schools for legitimate criticism of her policy positions:“…they’ve been misled about the truth about One Nation. It’s happening constantly, all the time in the schools…”
No Paulne. The teachers are doing their job and teaching about the real world.
…when they’re not disrupted 9 minutes out of 30 by student behaviour, remember.
Yeah.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
She sought to blame our schools for legitimate criticism of her policy positions:
“…they’ve been misled about the truth about One Nation. It’s happening constantly, all the time in the schools…”
No Paulne. The teachers are doing their job and teaching about the real world.
…when they’re not disrupted 9 minutes out of 30 by student behaviour, remember.
Yeah.
so disruptive classroom behaviour is a fascist conspiracy to keep the population uneducated and supportive of the fascism, makes sense
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
…when they’re not disrupted 9 minutes out of 30 by student behaviour, remember.
Yeah.
so disruptive classroom behaviour is a fascist conspiracy to keep the population uneducated and supportive of the fascism, makes sense
I doubt they are conspiring to do so. It is more simply the nature of the beast.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:
Yeah.
so disruptive classroom behaviour is a fascist conspiracy to keep the population uneducated and supportive of the fascism, makes sense
I doubt they are conspiring to do so. It is more simply the nature of the beast.
No no no teachers are fascists. Kids are just another brick in the wall, they don’t need no education or “f“ought control.
Meanwhile, Pauline will be disrupting the Henty Field days.
Boree Creek farmer Graham Strong has been a long-term supporter of the event, but will reconsider attending this year after penning his concerns to organisers about Senator Hanson’s invitation, labelling her as “divisive”.
“She’s vociferous, she’s polemic, divisive, all those sorts of things,” he told ABC Riverina.
“She loves a sympathetic crowd and she obviously sees one in Farrer because it’s a One Nation lower house seat and she’s got a plane.
“So yeah I was just absolutely incredulous when I found out … and the fact that so few people seem to be standing up, going this is a problem when I know there are a lot of people out there who are just absolutely incredulous and just going what the heck is going on here.”
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
…when they’re not disrupted 9 minutes out of 30 by student behaviour, remember.
Yeah.
so disruptive classroom behaviour is a fascist conspiracy to keep the population uneducated and supportive of the fascism, makes sense
You have drawn a long bow there.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Yeah.
so disruptive classroom behaviour is a fascist conspiracy to keep the population uneducated and supportive of the fascism, makes sense
I doubt they are conspiring to do so. It is more simply the nature of the beast.
No no no teachers are fascists. Kids are just another brick in the wall, they don’t need no education or “f“ought control.
You have drawn a long bow there.
we mean yes we agree with roughbarked that it’s more just a happy casual correlation, but opposite to what Divine Angel claimed education is communism which is why it’s bad
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
…when they’re not disrupted 9 minutes out of 30 by student behaviour, remember.
Yeah.
so disruptive classroom behaviour is a fascist conspiracy to keep the population uneducated and supportive of the fascism, makes sense
It’s exhausting.
“A dark day for Queenslanders” – new laws threaten nature, landholder rights
Community groups have warned that new state development laws, passed last night by the LNP government, will give the Deputy Premier unprecedented powers to fast-track major projects while stripping Queenslanders of important community, environmental, landholder and First Nations protections.
The Queensland government passed the State Development and Public Works Organisation (Critical Minerals) and Other Legislation last night with minimal amendments, despite widespread opposition from farming bodies, environmental groups, legal experts and politicians. Labor, the Katter Party and the Greens all voted against the amendments.
https://www.queenslandconservation.org.au/state_development_bill_threatens_nature_landholder_rights
Because of course it’s the LNP.
Spiny Norman said:
“A dark day for Queenslanders” – new laws threaten nature, landholder rightsCommunity groups have warned that new state development laws, passed last night by the LNP government, will give the Deputy Premier unprecedented powers to fast-track major projects while stripping Queenslanders of important community, environmental, landholder and First Nations protections.
The Queensland government passed the State Development and Public Works Organisation (Critical Minerals) and Other Legislation last night with minimal amendments, despite widespread opposition from farming bodies, environmental groups, legal experts and politicians. Labor, the Katter Party and the Greens all voted against the amendments.
https://www.queenslandconservation.org.au/state_development_bill_threatens_nature_landholder_rights
Because of course it’s the LNP.
Grrrrrrrr
More fun stuff on Facebook.
Apparently it is common knowledge that the Aus Labor Party is far left socialist.
What they think proper socialists are, I’m not sure.
The Rev Dodgson said:
More fun stuff on Facebook.Apparently it is common knowledge that the Aus Labor Party is far left socialist.
What they think proper socialists are, I’m not sure.
p.s. dv – time to update your index :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
More fun stuff on Facebook.Apparently it is common knowledge that the Aus Labor Party is far left socialist.
What they think proper socialists are, I’m not sure.
p.s. dv – time to update your index :)
In the days of Caldwell, they were tub thumpery socialists but they have moved from there to be much more conservative with little separating them from the Liberals.
Occasionally they have a red flare up but that can be treated with a conservative balm.
good news we guess
Coles will cut ties with Palantir, the controversial US data giant whose software underpins American deportation raids and battlefield targeting systems. The supermarket has confirmed its contract with the company will not extend beyond 2027, ending a partnership signed in early 2024 that gave Palantir access to more than 10 billion rows of data covering every store, every shift and each of the retailer’s 120,000 employees.
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
Spiny Norman said:
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
Cheesus ….
About as bright as a birthday candle at the bottom of the ocean encased in concrete.
Cash is hard to track.
To me it’s a evolution of currency.
Yes you could control people if you could deny access to digital currency but that doesn’t really work for spending and the economy.so we should align ourselves harder with the overseas fascists while the local fascists grow their base, this is going to go well
Quite possibly. It would also depend on which way the Chinese are advancing I imagine. I suspect they’ll just try to take Taiwan and that’ll make them happy for a while. Though they aren’t like to be able to invade and take it over, too many variables against them.
If they start heading south to really grab the Spratly Islands, etc, then that puts us more on the line.
The Coming War on China by John Pliger is worth a watch. Link
thanks
also
what are we fkn saying
nah yous know what don’t worry, someone’s gotta legitimise fascism, might as well be us
roughbarked said:
Laura Tingle referring to the orange elephant.
sorry also here
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Laura Tingle referring to the orange elephant.
sorry also here
:)
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Laura Tingle referring to the orange elephant.
sorry also here
:)
Hey we’ve heard the stories about the last time fascists were fucking around in the civilised world and allied themselves with some islands in the Asia Pacific region wanting to stomp on some other country,
what but there’s too much important stuff in Europe to throw nuclear warheads into so wait where did the 2 nuclear bombings go again, oh that’s right, it was necessary for the good guys to lob them over the Asia Pacific islands to prove the point and make an example, yes please¡
liberties and rights in the great free land of the queen now king
Queen Elizabeth II met Paul Keating “alone, to her credit” in what the prime minister was informed was her great-great-grandmother Queen Victoria’s favourite room at Balmoral Castle.
“And I took some pleasure in explaining the furniture to her,” Keating recalls, an old elan breaking through.
“It was made of Karelian, Russian Karelian birchwood. She had kept all the green-and-blue tartan carpets, all worn, so the room had something going for it. But the thing is, what had nothing going for it was any relativity to Australia.”
Keating was in the UK to deliver his monarch a message, that Australia, Australians, “did not need her any more”. Australia should, must become a republic.
“She said to me in this conversation, rather plaintively, ‘my family and I do our best for Australia’, whereas what I was really offering was a way out.”
A file note written by Keating after the meeting reaffirmed his belief in Australia’s independent future.
“The hereditary nature of the queen’s position, the remoteness from any contemporary mandate, struck me at that moment, at that proximity, as so banal, even sad.”
Keating, Australia’s 24th prime minister, was in conversation on Wednesday night at a Sydney writers’ festival event with Sydney University professor of modern history James Curran, author of Grand Ambition: Paul Keating’s Global Vision for Australia.
It is an adroitly drawn portrait of a past leader – Keating lost power 30 years ago – who remains firmly convinced his vision is still very much this country’s future. An Australia that finds its security in, rather than from, Asia, that will be a republic, that will finally walk the path to reconciliation with its Indigenous history.
‘Timidity is like a virus’
“My view of the country was bigger than the country’s view of itself, but the vision will never deteriorate,” Keating said.
Francis Fukuyama stands outdoors, with tree leaves and an arched building of Encina Hall behind him
‘If he can make money in a tyranny, that’s fine by him’: Francis Fukuyama on Trump, democracy – and changing his mind
Read more
Curran reminded his audience (gently) that his interlocutor is no longer a young man, a child of the second world war (born 1944), who was just 25 years old when he entered parliament in 1969. Who cut his political teeth during the height of the cold war, and whose time as leader coincided with its end (once held up as the “end of history”).
Keating’s first remarkable month as prime minister took in the fall of the Soviet Union; the arrival on Australian shores for the first time in three decades of a US president (George HW Bush, whom Keating wanted to “put in a headlock” to get something from him – the result was Apec, now still a key leaders’ meeting on the multilateral calendar, deep in its fourth decade); and a visit from Her Majesty (still yet a couple of years from their awkward meeting at Balmoral).
Keating’s age was apparent on Wednesday.
The voice was a little weaker, raspier; the pauses – formerly used to such dramatic effect on the floor of the Reps – a little longer; the quotes once-remembered now through an aide-memoire.
But there was still the killer line, the rapier wit, blunted a little, but still penetrating.
“Timidity,” he told Curran in their interviews for the book, “is like a virus in the bloodstream.”
Curran writes: “Keating’s central theme over the years is that the country has become afraid, and that its leaders have refrained from articulating a bigger idea of the place.
“Instead of long-term strategic thinking about the kinds of issues coming down the national and international track, he sees frenzied activity. His retort? ‘Busyness is not substance.’”
Australia suffers no shortage of political autobiography, for better or worse. Keating, famously/notoriously, has never put pen to paper in his own defence.
Recollections of a Bleeding Heart, a memoir by his speechwriter, Don Watson, was said to have wounded him. He saw it as a betrayal. In response to what he saw as yet another Hawke biography, Keating delivered a veiled threat: “If I get around to writing a book, I will be telling the truth; the whole truth.”
It never eventuated.
But throughout this conversation, and throughout Grand Ambition, it was apparent that Keating has always kept an eye on legacy, on his place in history, and on grand ambition – his own and the country’s.
Trump wants to ‘avoid world war three’
He keeps, Curran writes, meticulous records of the policies he considers the signal markers of his time in office, “the pillars of his political legacy”.
For a historian of Curran’s forensic eye, exclusive access to these files is manna from heaven.
“Each folder contains the relevant primary cabinet documents and diplomatic cables and, where applicable, briefings to and from his advisers and department, records of what other ministers thought or wrote, details of critical conversations with other leaders, and a carefully selected array of newspaper articles.
“They are all stamped ‘PJ KEATING PERSONAL COLLECTION’, arranged in precise chronological order and stapled at top left. The stamp itself is a statement about more than just the provenance of the documentary record; it is asserting, in its own way, Keating’s ownership of that past.”
To end the evening, Keating was asked for his message for young Australians, and the future they will encounter and make. The key themes were still there: a republic, Indigenous reconciliation, a fairer Australia “making housing more affordable is a great thing to be doing. And if we’ve lost 10 or 15% in house values, so what?”
But there were still surprises. Keating’s proclaimed support for the foreign policy of the current occupant of the White House – “what Trump wants to do is avoid world war three” – his existential concern over the rise of artificial intelligence: “which I think is going to be the greatest agency of change since the discovery of electricity”.
Keating was taken to a speech he gave at Kokoda. On Anzac Day in 1992, as prime minister, he had fallen to his knees and kissed the base of the memorial to fallen Australian soldiers, describing the Papua New Guinean highlands village as “the place where the depth of the soul of the Australian nation was confirmed”.
“It is important for all of us, but particularly and especially young Australians,” Keating said that day, “to believe in an independent Australia, beholden to nobody. We can’t deny young Australians their birthright to a past with meaning for them and a future without meaning: it has to be a future with meaning.”
The best way to see Darwin is flying over it on your way to Paris, P. Keating.
Can’t say I ever warmed to Paul Keating.
Why should Buckingham Palace have shrines to their colonial inhabitation of Australia anyway? Maybe a different room for every colony: the Australian room filled with taxidermied kangaroos, the New Zealand room with fresh alpine air pumped in, the Canadian room with a waxen Celine Dion perched on a couch etc.
“My family and I do our best for Australia.”
Apart from a weekly chinwag over the phone with the G-G, what exactly does the monarchy do for us? Maybe “doing their best” comprises of “leaving us alone”.
Michael Blake – the headmaster St Joseph’s College Hunters Hill.
“I want every young woman who encounters a St Joseph’s College boy to be safer because you are there. Not merely safe from you – safer because of you.”Something that is refreshingly hopeful, especially after the Angus Taylor and Matt Canavan bullshit.
how woke
Ian said:
Queen Elizabeth II met Paul Keating “alone, to her credit” in what the prime minister was informed was her great-great-grandmother Queen Victoria’s favourite room at Balmoral Castle.“And I took some pleasure in explaining the furniture to her,” Keating recalls, an old elan breaking through.
“It was made of Karelian, Russian Karelian birchwood. She had kept all the green-and-blue tartan carpets, all worn, so the room had something going for it. But the thing is, what had nothing going for it was any relativity to Australia.”
Keating was in the UK to deliver his monarch a message, that Australia, Australians, “did not need her any more”. Australia should, must become a republic.
“She said to me in this conversation, rather plaintively, ‘my family and I do our best for Australia’, whereas what I was really offering was a way out.”
A file note written by Keating after the meeting reaffirmed his belief in Australia’s independent future.“The hereditary nature of the queen’s position, the remoteness from any contemporary mandate, struck me at that moment, at that proximity, as so banal, even sad.”
Keating, Australia’s 24th prime minister, was in conversation on Wednesday night at a Sydney writers’ festival event with Sydney University professor of modern history James Curran, author of Grand Ambition: Paul Keating’s Global Vision for Australia.
It is an adroitly drawn portrait of a past leader – Keating lost power 30 years ago – who remains firmly convinced his vision is still very much this country’s future. An Australia that finds its security in, rather than from, Asia, that will be a republic, that will finally walk the path to reconciliation with its Indigenous history.
‘Timidity is like a virus’
“My view of the country was bigger than the country’s view of itself, but the vision will never deteriorate,” Keating said.
Francis Fukuyama stands outdoors, with tree leaves and an arched building of Encina Hall behind him
‘If he can make money in a tyranny, that’s fine by him’: Francis Fukuyama on Trump, democracy – and changing his mind
Read more
Curran reminded his audience (gently) that his interlocutor is no longer a young man, a child of the second world war (born 1944), who was just 25 years old when he entered parliament in 1969. Who cut his political teeth during the height of the cold war, and whose time as leader coincided with its end (once held up as the “end of history”).Keating’s first remarkable month as prime minister took in the fall of the Soviet Union; the arrival on Australian shores for the first time in three decades of a US president (George HW Bush, whom Keating wanted to “put in a headlock” to get something from him – the result was Apec, now still a key leaders’ meeting on the multilateral calendar, deep in its fourth decade); and a visit from Her Majesty (still yet a couple of years from their awkward meeting at Balmoral).
Keating’s age was apparent on Wednesday.
The voice was a little weaker, raspier; the pauses – formerly used to such dramatic effect on the floor of the Reps – a little longer; the quotes once-remembered now through an aide-memoire.
But there was still the killer line, the rapier wit, blunted a little, but still penetrating.
“Timidity,” he told Curran in their interviews for the book, “is like a virus in the bloodstream.”
Curran writes: “Keating’s central theme over the years is that the country has become afraid, and that its leaders have refrained from articulating a bigger idea of the place.
“Instead of long-term strategic thinking about the kinds of issues coming down the national and international track, he sees frenzied activity. His retort? ‘Busyness is not substance.’”
Australia suffers no shortage of political autobiography, for better or worse. Keating, famously/notoriously, has never put pen to paper in his own defence.
Recollections of a Bleeding Heart, a memoir by his speechwriter, Don Watson, was said to have wounded him. He saw it as a betrayal. In response to what he saw as yet another Hawke biography, Keating delivered a veiled threat: “If I get around to writing a book, I will be telling the truth; the whole truth.”
It never eventuated.
But throughout this conversation, and throughout Grand Ambition, it was apparent that Keating has always kept an eye on legacy, on his place in history, and on grand ambition – his own and the country’s.
Trump wants to ‘avoid world war three’
He keeps, Curran writes, meticulous records of the policies he considers the signal markers of his time in office, “the pillars of his political legacy”.
For a historian of Curran’s forensic eye, exclusive access to these files is manna from heaven.
“Each folder contains the relevant primary cabinet documents and diplomatic cables and, where applicable, briefings to and from his advisers and department, records of what other ministers thought or wrote, details of critical conversations with other leaders, and a carefully selected array of newspaper articles.
“They are all stamped ‘PJ KEATING PERSONAL COLLECTION’, arranged in precise chronological order and stapled at top left. The stamp itself is a statement about more than just the provenance of the documentary record; it is asserting, in its own way, Keating’s ownership of that past.”
To end the evening, Keating was asked for his message for young Australians, and the future they will encounter and make. The key themes were still there: a republic, Indigenous reconciliation, a fairer Australia “making housing more affordable is a great thing to be doing. And if we’ve lost 10 or 15% in house values, so what?”
But there were still surprises. Keating’s proclaimed support for the foreign policy of the current occupant of the White House – “what Trump wants to do is avoid world war three” – his existential concern over the rise of artificial intelligence: “which I think is going to be the greatest agency of change since the discovery of electricity”.
Keating was taken to a speech he gave at Kokoda. On Anzac Day in 1992, as prime minister, he had fallen to his knees and kissed the base of the memorial to fallen Australian soldiers, describing the Papua New Guinean highlands village as “the place where the depth of the soul of the Australian nation was confirmed”.
“It is important for all of us, but particularly and especially young Australians,” Keating said that day, “to believe in an independent Australia, beholden to nobody. We can’t deny young Australians their birthright to a past with meaning for them and a future without meaning: it has to be a future with meaning.”
I hadn’t seen that. Ta
Divine Angel said:
Why should Buckingham Palace have shrines to their colonial inhabitation of Australia anyway? Maybe a different room for every colony: the Australian room filled with taxidermied kangaroos, the New Zealand room with fresh alpine air pumped in, the Canadian room with a waxen Celine Dion perched on a couch etc.“My family and I do our best for Australia.”
Apart from a weekly chinwag over the phone with the G-G, what exactly does the monarchy do for us? Maybe “doing their best” comprises of “leaving us alone”.
And making sure that Australia never steps out of line.
I wish they would have lead with that, then I would not have wasted time reading the rest…
kii said:
Michael Blake – the headmaster St Joseph’s College Hunters Hill. “I want every young woman who encounters a St Joseph’s College boy to be safer because you are there. Not merely safe from you – safer because of you.”Something that is refreshingly hopeful, especially after the Angus Taylor and Matt Canavan bullshit.
He’s trying. I wish more would do that.
SCIENCE said:
how woke
What I posted? Better to be seen as “woke” than to be seen as a thug who has his boot on women’s necks.
furious said:
- Keating’s proclaimed support for the foreign policy of the current occupant of the White House
I wish they would have lead with that, then I would not have wasted time reading the rest…
I must have skipped that bit.
Keating has certainly said some strange things in his time, but that one takes the cake (assuming he actually said it, and it wasn’t intended to be ironic).
ms spock said:
kii said:
Michael Blake – the headmaster St Joseph’s College Hunters Hill. “I want every young woman who encounters a St Joseph’s College boy to be safer because you are there. Not merely safe from you – safer because of you.”Something that is refreshingly hopeful, especially after the Angus Taylor and Matt Canavan bullshit.
He’s trying. I wish more would do that.
Yep. I lived near that school in the 80s. The boys seemed mostly polite etc. It was during my child-bearing years – so pregnant, pushing strollers etc.
The school is surrounded by very high stone walls and the boys would be seen walking to sporting events etc.
kii said:
SCIENCE said:how woke
What I posted? Better to be seen as “woke” than to be seen as a thug who has his boot on women’s necks.
You can never be sure with SCIENCE, but maybe he has joined the campaign to reclaim “woke” as a description of political awareness, rather than a rightist term of derision.
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:
- Keating’s proclaimed support for the foreign policy of the current occupant of the White House
I wish they would have lead with that, then I would not have wasted time reading the rest…
I must have skipped that bit.
Keating has certainly said some strange things in his time, but that one takes the cake (assuming he actually said it, and it wasn’t intended to be ironic).
well in less partial context it was
But there were still surprises. Keating’s proclaimed support for the foreign policy of the current occupant of the White House – “what Trump wants to do is avoid world war three” – his existential concern over the rise of artificial intelligence: “which I think is going to be the greatest agency of change since the discovery of electricity”.
so maybe it was in the sense of how NSW police might tell a 95 year old preparing to dice some vegetables “what you want to do is drop that knife” kind of thing
The Rev Dodgson said:
kii said:
SCIENCE said:
how woke
What I posted? Better to be seen as “woke” than to be seen as a thug who has his boot on women’s necks.
You can never be sure with SCIENCE, but maybe he has joined the campaign to reclaim “woke” as a description of political awareness, rather than a rightist term of derision.
we’re just using the descriptive term purely as a descriptive term, so we guess yes
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:
- Keating’s proclaimed support for the foreign policy of the current occupant of the White House
I wish they would have lead with that, then I would not have wasted time reading the rest…
I must have skipped that bit.
Keating has certainly said some strange things in his time, but that one takes the cake (assuming he actually said it, and it wasn’t intended to be ironic).
I presumed it was being ironic and sarcasm.
The Rev Dodgson said:
kii said:
SCIENCE said:how woke
What I posted? Better to be seen as “woke” than to be seen as a thug who has his boot on women’s necks.
You can never be sure with SCIENCE, but maybe he has joined the campaign to reclaim “woke” as a description of political awareness, rather than a rightist term of derision.
That was my assumption.

furious said:
- Keating’s proclaimed support for the foreign policy of the current occupant of the White House
I wish they would have lead with that, then I would not have wasted time reading the rest…
Yeah, fuck Trump.
Nobody is taking issue with PJK’s central theme… “Timidity,” he told Curran in their interviews for the book, “is like a virus in the bloodstream.” “Keating’s central theme over the years is that the country has become afraid, and that its leaders have refrained from articulating a bigger idea of the place.”
Good
Divine Angel said:
How about FK NO.


The latest from the Jewish Council of Australia…
Now that the Royal Commission hearings are over and I’ve finally come up for air, I wanted to reach out about everything that’s happened over the last several months and what comes next.
We’re still waiting for the final report which won’t be handed down until December. We don’t know what the Commission will ultimately recommend, and there is a lot at stake in its findings. But whatever the outcome, our participation has ensured that our voices are now firmly on the record.
Myself and Jewish Council Advisory Member Josh Bornstein will be sharing more at an upcoming lunchtime webinar briefing on 16 September. Click here to register.
Our interventions at the Royal Commission proved unequivocally that the Jewish community in Australia is not a monolith, shining a light on the growing numbers of Jews who support the Palestine solidarity movement and don’t condone the crimes being committed by Israel in our name. This visibility was critical for challenging the claim that standing up for Palestinian rights is inherently antisemitic – one of our main objectives at the Commission. Repressing this movement does not prevent antisemitism, it fuels it. Whatever the Commission ultimately recommends, we have already shifted that narrative.
It was people like you that made all of that possible. Thanks to generous donations from Jewish Council supporters, we were able to hire an incredible legal team that worked around the clock to make sure a progressive Jewish voice was heard.
In fact we were the only Jewish organisation, apart from a coalition of pro-Israel organisations, granted leave to appear at the hearing block relating to the definition of antisemitism. We were also granted leave to appear at hearing blocks on the media, universities, protest and the drivers of antisemitism.
Over the last several months:
Our legal team supported members to make submissions and draft witness statements
Jewish Council members (including myself) gave evidence at the Royal Commission
Our legal team examined witnesses and interrogated evidence throughout the hearings
We commissioned an export report from Historian of Antisemitism, Professor David Feldman, which challenged the IHRA definition and repressive approaches to combatting antisemitism.
You might have seen my own testimony at the Royal Commission, or some of the wall-to-wall media coverage we received afterwards.
I used that opportunity to tell the Commission about my deep commitment to Jewish safety and the fight against antisemitism, and how this fight is interconnected with the Council’s work for Palestinian liberation, and freedom, justice and equality for all people.
The Commission gave me space to explain the personal costs of publicly criticising Israel, and the racist targetting I have experienced from both far-right and pro-Israel actors in response. As I said in my testimony, this is just one small part of a broader silencing effort against those supporting Palestinians, in the supposed name of fighting antisemitism.
The Royal Commission said at the start that it was going to be adopting the IHRA definition of antisemitism. Nevertheless, a major focus of ours during the process has been opposing this and the Universities Australia definition, as both dangerously conflate Jewish identity with support for the state of Israel. (We’re continuing to pressure institutions to reject this definition, so please sign our petition if you haven’t already).
Antisemitism is real and it is rising. But our vision for combatting it means standing arm and arm with all racialised groups, confronting the far right, and the racism and conspiracism that allow antisemitism to flourish.
We were able to put concrete solutions to the Royal Commission: community building, education, anti-racism and interfaith work, and alternatives to the IHRA definition of antisemitism like the Australian Human Rights Commission’s National Anti-racism Framework.
And the work isn’t finished. Our legal team is still busy writing submissions for each of the hearing blocks, dissecting and responding to evidence presented and drawing on the submissions of our members and the expert report we commissioned. If you’re able, please consider making a donation to help us sustain this work and plan for what comes next.
We’ll find out the Commission’s recommendations when its final report is handed down in December. But thanks to this community, the voices and experiences of progressive Jews who care deeply about both fighting antisemitism AND standing up for Palestinian freedom and justice are now firmly on the public record. The Commission must reckon with those perspectives as work commences on the report.
If you made it this far in the email – thanks for reading. You can come hear more at our interim briefing on Thursday 16 September at 12:30pm AEST.
With respect and appreciation,
Sarah Schwartz
Executive Director
Jewish Council of Australia
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-08/barnaby-joyce-one-nation-superannuation-policy-early-access/107127346
I’m confuzzled why Barnaby thinks anyone’s confusing him with Jesus Christ.
Divine Angel said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-08/barnaby-joyce-one-nation-superannuation-policy-early-access/107127346I’m confuzzled why Barnaby thinks anyone’s confusing him with Jesus Christ.
Well he did have a second coming.
With more than half of the military bases in Australia having either US military or military corporate access, many are asking – could this drag Australia unwillingly into war?
See a map of all the US military bases in Australia, including Pine Gap in the Northern Territory, the highly secretive joint Australian-US satellite communications and signals intelligence surveillance base established by the CIA in 1966
Spiny Norman said:
With more than half of the military bases in Australia having either US military or military corporate access, many are asking – could this drag Australia unwillingly into war?See a map of all the US military bases in Australia, including Pine Gap in the Northern Territory, the highly secretive joint Australian-US satellite communications and signals intelligence surveillance base established by the CIA in 1966
Yes. They put Pine Gap so far inland, it would be out of the range of naval guns. 😮
Woodie said:
Spiny Norman said:
With more than half of the military bases in Australia having either US military or military corporate access, many are asking – could this drag Australia unwillingly into war?See a map of all the US military bases in Australia, including Pine Gap in the Northern Territory, the highly secretive joint Australian-US satellite communications and signals intelligence surveillance base established by the CIA in 1966
Yes. They put Pine Gap so far inland, it would be out of the range of naval guns. 😮
But not cruise missiles launched from subs off our coast.
Divine Angel said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-08/barnaby-joyce-one-nation-superannuation-policy-early-access/107127346I’m confuzzled why Barnaby thinks anyone’s confusing him with Jesus Christ.
i think it means he is not an all seeing and all knowing person like Jesus. It is his excuse for not knowing the basic details.

Divine Angel said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-08/barnaby-joyce-one-nation-superannuation-policy-early-access/107127346I’m confuzzled why Barnaby thinks anyone’s confusing him with Jesus Christ.
gish gallop
dv said:
how good is alignment with fascism
SCIENCE said:
LOL
But the SCIENCE results are back up a bit!
‘Global reckoning for big tech’: Australia to force social media platforms to allow users to opt out of algorithms
Draft legislation enforces digital duty of care including limiting children’s exposure to misogynistic and eating disorder content
Australia will allow social media account holders to opt out of the powerful algorithms pushing dangerous and divisive content into users’ feeds, part of new laws designed to boost online safety.
Users over 16 years of age will be given new tools to turn off algorithm-driven content, with platforms facing fines of more than A$100m for non-compliance.
Under the plan – dubbed “my feed, my way” – users opting out of the algorithm will see content only from individuals and groups they have actively chosen to follow.
Users would be asked what they want their default feed to be through a pop-up message provided on their platform of choice.
New laws designed to provide a digital duty of care for social media users under 18 will also require services such as online games, apps and AI chatbots to protect children from specific harms.
Such activities seem to be a prerequisite to be hired by the ON mob.
Spiny Norman said:
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Such activities seem to be a prerequisite to be hired by the ON mob.
Starting to look that way.
Spiny Norman said:
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Such activities seem to be a prerequisite to be hired by the ON mob.

JudgeMental said:
Spiny Norman said:
Such activities seem to be a prerequisite to be hired by the ON mob.
well that’s a bit unfair now if they were representing the socialists then you’d all be wanting to forgive them and legalise methamphetamine and leave spent convictions behind and recognise that people can grow and learn and improve

Literally everything he does makes him seem more like a complete f’wit.
Spiny Norman said:
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Literally everything he does makes him seem more like a complete f’wit.
Context?
I think we need to read the rest of the letter.
Spiny Norman said:
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Literally everything he does makes him seem more like a complete f’wit.
When LNP was voted in, they promised more education support, more teacher aides, more teachers, more funding. None of that has happened naturally; TAs and teachers only got pay rises due to their unions after months of negotiations.
And let’s not forget the occupational violence. Yesterday a TA in the same classroom as me was bitten twice by a student.

Bro better not come crying to me about someone else hating education when his own party’s actions speak volumes. Bunch of wankers.
Divine Angel said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Literally everything he does makes him seem more like a complete f’wit.
When LNP was voted in, they promised more education support, more teacher aides, more teachers, more funding. None of that has happened naturally; TAs and teachers only got pay rises due to their unions after months of negotiations.
And let’s not forget the occupational violence. Yesterday a TA in the same classroom as me was bitten twice by a student.
Bro better not come crying to me about someone else hating education when his own party’s actions speak volumes. Bunch of wankers.
I can’t imagine the solution is easy or perhaps even solvable.
Too late now for so many problems, dealing with the outcome rather than a solution existing
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Literally everything he does makes him seem more like a complete f’wit.
Context?
I think we need to read the rest of the letter.
I didn’t read the whole thing but it was something about opening a wildlife corridor near a school …? Stopping the school from expanding in that direction …. ?
Don’t quote me on that.
Cymek said:
Divine Angel said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Literally everything he does makes him seem more like a complete f’wit.
When LNP was voted in, they promised more education support, more teacher aides, more teachers, more funding. None of that has happened naturally; TAs and teachers only got pay rises due to their unions after months of negotiations.
And let’s not forget the occupational violence. Yesterday a TA in the same classroom as me was bitten twice by a student.
Bro better not come crying to me about someone else hating education when his own party’s actions speak volumes. Bunch of wankers.
I can’t imagine the solution is easy or perhaps even solvable.
Too late now for so many problems, dealing with the outcome rather than a solution existing
So yes, it is an unsolvable problem. It’s generational and systemic. This are not easy issues to fix.
My school is extremely supportive when something happens. Many schools are not.
Divine Angel said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Literally everything he does makes him seem more like a complete f’wit.
When LNP was voted in, they promised more education support, more teacher aides, more teachers, more funding. None of that has happened naturally; TAs and teachers only got pay rises due to their unions after months of negotiations.
And let’s not forget the occupational violence. Yesterday a TA in the same classroom as me was bitten twice by a student.
Bro better not come crying to me about someone else hating education when his own party’s actions speak volumes. Bunch of wankers.
Fair comment.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Literally everything he does makes him seem more like a complete f’wit.
Context?
I think we need to read the rest of the letter.
I didn’t read the whole thing but it was something about opening a wildlife corridor near a school …? Stopping the school from expanding in that direction …. ?
Don’t quote me on that.
Ah.
Divine Angel said:
Cymek said:
Divine Angel said:
When LNP was voted in, they promised more education support, more teacher aides, more teachers, more funding. None of that has happened naturally; TAs and teachers only got pay rises due to their unions after months of negotiations.
And let’s not forget the occupational violence. Yesterday a TA in the same classroom as me was bitten twice by a student.
Bro better not come crying to me about someone else hating education when his own party’s actions speak volumes. Bunch of wankers.
I can’t imagine the solution is easy or perhaps even solvable.
Too late now for so many problems, dealing with the outcome rather than a solution existing
My union rep had no ideas, saying it was the government’s problem to solve.
So yes, it is an unsolvable problem. It’s generational and systemic. This are not easy issues to fix.
My school is extremely supportive when something happens. Many schools are not.
did ¿ they ask 跟爱 then
Divine Angel said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Literally everything he does makes him seem more like a complete f’wit.
When LNP was voted in, they promised more education support, more teacher aides, more teachers, more funding. None of that has happened naturally; TAs and teachers only got pay rises due to their unions after months of negotiations.
And let’s not forget the occupational violence. Yesterday a TA in the same classroom as me was bitten twice by a student.
Bro better not come crying to me about someone else hating education when his own party’s actions speak volumes. Bunch of wankers.
Further,

Divine Angel said:
Divine Angel said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Literally everything he does makes him seem more like a complete f’wit.
When LNP was voted in, they promised more education support, more teacher aides, more teachers, more funding. None of that has happened naturally; TAs and teachers only got pay rises due to their unions after months of negotiations.
And let’s not forget the occupational violence. Yesterday a TA in the same classroom as me was bitten twice by a student.
Bro better not come crying to me about someone else hating education when his own party’s actions speak volumes. Bunch of wankers.
Further,
oooh what ways
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
Divine Angel said:When LNP was voted in, they promised more education support, more teacher aides, more teachers, more funding. None of that has happened naturally; TAs and teachers only got pay rises due to their unions after months of negotiations.
And let’s not forget the occupational violence. Yesterday a TA in the same classroom as me was bitten twice by a student.
Bro better not come crying to me about someone else hating education when his own party’s actions speak volumes. Bunch of wankers.
Further,
oooh what ways
🤞🏼 please be a cattle prod 🤞🏼
Divine Angel said:
Divine Angel said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Literally everything he does makes him seem more like a complete f’wit.
When LNP was voted in, they promised more education support, more teacher aides, more teachers, more funding. None of that has happened naturally; TAs and teachers only got pay rises due to their unions after months of negotiations.
And let’s not forget the occupational violence. Yesterday a TA in the same classroom as me was bitten twice by a student.
Bro better not come crying to me about someone else hating education when his own party’s actions speak volumes. Bunch of wankers.
Further,
That is very poor that he didn’t take it.
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
Further,
oooh what ways
🤞🏼 please be a cattle prod 🤞🏼
¿
it says they discussed ways to keep people safe, so they must know of some possible ways right
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
oooh what ways
🤞🏼 please be a cattle prod 🤞🏼
¿
it says they discussed ways to keep people safe, so they must know of some possible ways right
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Literally everything he does makes him seem more like a complete f’wit.
Context?
I think we need to read the rest of the letter.
I didn’t read the whole thing but it was something about opening a wildlife corridor near a school …? Stopping the school from expanding in that direction …. ?
Don’t quote me on that.




Divine Angel said:
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:Context?
I think we need to read the rest of the letter.
I didn’t read the whole thing but it was something about opening a wildlife corridor near a school …? Stopping the school from expanding in that direction …. ?
Don’t quote me on that.
I watched Jarrod’s father grow up. I knew his grandfather well.
There’s education and then there’s education. The far right education is definitely different from mainstream education.
everyone knows that private enterprise does it better and government ownership of capital is a recipe for failure

communism bad
SCIENCE said:
everyone knows that private enterprise does it better and government ownership of capital is a recipe for failure
communism bad
Sarky.
Dear Mr Bleijie,
With reference to your viral postscript on social media asking, “Why do the Greens hate education?”, I’d like to ask you the same question.
Although important, this is not about koalas in Ormiston. This is about broken election promises and systemic failure within Queensland schools.
The LNP’s election promises included more teachers, more education support staff, more funding for resources, and more specialist behavioural teachers. I ask you, Mr Bleijie, where is that funding? Where are those teachers? Where are those support staff?
The United Workers Union represents teacher aides and school cleaners in Queensland. This year, they have asked for signatures to campaign against occupational violence. Over 21,000 incidents of occupational violence occurred in Queensland last year. The campaign has over 1000 personal testimonies from education staff injured in the workplace, including mine. Yet the Qld Director of General Education has refused to meet with UWU. Tell me, Mr Bleijie, where is government support for education staff, like myself, who have been injured at work?
Your government represents systemic failures in keeping staff and students safe. Your government has not provided funding for our most vulnerable students. Your government is responsible for change.
So let me ask you, Mr Bleijie, why does the LNP hate education?
Sincerely,
DA, TA
Divine Angel said:
Dear Mr Bleijie,
With reference to your viral postscript on social media asking, “Why do the Greens hate education?”, I’d like to ask you the same question.
Although important, this is not about koalas in Ormiston. This is about broken election promises and systemic failure within Queensland schools.
The LNP’s election promises included more teachers, more education support staff, more funding for resources, and more specialist behavioural teachers. I ask you, Mr Bleijie, where is that funding? Where are those teachers? Where are those support staff?
The United Workers Union represents teacher aides and school cleaners in Queensland. This year, they have asked for signatures to campaign against occupational violence. Over 21,000 incidents of occupational violence occurred in Queensland last year. The campaign has over 1000 personal testimonies from education staff injured in the workplace, including mine. Yet the Qld Director of General Education has refused to meet with UWU. Tell me, Mr Bleijie, where is government support for education staff, like myself, who have been injured at work?
Your government represents systemic failures in keeping staff and students safe. Your government has not provided funding for our most vulnerable students. Your government is responsible for change.
So let me ask you, Mr Bleijie, why does the LNP hate education?
Sincerely,
DA, TA
didst thou sendest it
Divine Angel said:
Dear Mr Bleijie,With reference to your viral postscript on social media asking, “Why do the Greens hate education?”, I’d like to ask you the same question.
Although important, this is not about koalas in Ormiston. This is about broken election promises and systemic failure within Queensland schools.
The LNP’s election promises included more teachers, more education support staff, more funding for resources, and more specialist behavioural teachers. I ask you, Mr Bleijie, where is that funding? Where are those teachers? Where are those support staff?
The United Workers Union represents teacher aides and school cleaners in Queensland. This year, they have asked for signatures to campaign against occupational violence. Over 21,000 incidents of occupational violence occurred in Queensland last year. The campaign has over 1000 personal testimonies from education staff injured in the workplace, including mine. Yet the Qld Director of General Education has refused to meet with UWU. Tell me, Mr Bleijie, where is government support for education staff, like myself, who have been injured at work?
Your government represents systemic failures in keeping staff and students safe. Your government has not provided funding for our most vulnerable students. Your government is responsible for change.
So let me ask you, Mr Bleijie, why does the LNP hate education?
Sincerely,
DA, TA
TA DA !!!!
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Dear Mr Bleijie,
With reference to your viral postscript on social media asking, “Why do the Greens hate education?”, I’d like to ask you the same question.
Although important, this is not about koalas in Ormiston. This is about broken election promises and systemic failure within Queensland schools.
The LNP’s election promises included more teachers, more education support staff, more funding for resources, and more specialist behavioural teachers. I ask you, Mr Bleijie, where is that funding? Where are those teachers? Where are those support staff?
The United Workers Union represents teacher aides and school cleaners in Queensland. This year, they have asked for signatures to campaign against occupational violence. Over 21,000 incidents of occupational violence occurred in Queensland last year. The campaign has over 1000 personal testimonies from education staff injured in the workplace, including mine. Yet the Qld Director of General Education has refused to meet with UWU. Tell me, Mr Bleijie, where is government support for education staff, like myself, who have been injured at work?
Your government represents systemic failures in keeping staff and students safe. Your government has not provided funding for our most vulnerable students. Your government is responsible for change.
So let me ask you, Mr Bleijie, why does the LNP hate education?
Sincerely,
DA, TA
TA DA !!!!

Divine Angel said:
Dear Mr Bleijie,With reference to your viral postscript on social media asking, “Why do the Greens hate education?”, I’d like to ask you the same question.
Although important, this is not about koalas in Ormiston. This is about broken election promises and systemic failure within Queensland schools.
The LNP’s election promises included more teachers, more education support staff, more funding for resources, and more specialist behavioural teachers. I ask you, Mr Bleijie, where is that funding? Where are those teachers? Where are those support staff?
The United Workers Union represents teacher aides and school cleaners in Queensland. This year, they have asked for signatures to campaign against occupational violence. Over 21,000 incidents of occupational violence occurred in Queensland last year. The campaign has over 1000 personal testimonies from education staff injured in the workplace, including mine. Yet the Qld Director of General Education has refused to meet with UWU. Tell me, Mr Bleijie, where is government support for education staff, like myself, who have been injured at work?
Your government represents systemic failures in keeping staff and students safe. Your government has not provided funding for our most vulnerable students. Your government is responsible for change.
So let me ask you, Mr Bleijie, why does the LNP hate education?
Sincerely,
DA, TA
Mail it.
We’re being steadily over-run by the moron tsunami again. :(
Spiny Norman said:
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We’re being steadily over-run by the moron tsunami again. :(
Pauline says there’s “still a lot to come out” about Warren Pickering, then appears to realise the problem.
Then comes the claim that there are a lot of “paedophiliers” (sic) in Parliament.
One Nation crisis management remains a fascinating discipline.
https://x.com/aaronsmith/status/2097799880127447487
The interviewer trying hard to not laugh at her.
Lambie blasts Hanson over ‘disgusting’ Hastie traitor cartoon
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-10/federal-politics-lambie-blasts-hanson-over-hastie-cartoon/107137036
Spiny Norman said:
Pauline says there’s “still a lot to come out” about Warren Pickering, then appears to realise the problem.Then comes the claim that there are a lot of “paedophiliers” (sic) in Parliament.
One Nation crisis management remains a fascinating discipline.
https://x.com/aaronsmith/status/2097799880127447487
The interviewer trying hard to not laugh at her.
But he has to do all that stuff, so his approach can be practical, solutions-focused and grounded in lived experience.
Hopefully the Murdoch media so beholden to the Coalition will contribute something honourable for once by holding Pauline and One Nation to account for the danger they represent to sound government in this country. If we’re lucky they might even help in the self declared basket-case they call Victoria.
Pauline showing her level of political skill & knowledge yet again.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAussie/comments/1wc56br/even_sky_news_is_skeptical/
Divine Angel said:
Dear Mr Bleijie,With reference to your viral postscript on social media asking, “Why do the Greens hate education?”, I’d like to ask you the same question.
Although important, this is not about koalas in Ormiston. This is about broken election promises and systemic failure within Queensland schools.
The LNP’s election promises included more teachers, more education support staff, more funding for resources, and more specialist behavioural teachers. I ask you, Mr Bleijie, where is that funding? Where are those teachers? Where are those support staff?
The United Workers Union represents teacher aides and school cleaners in Queensland. This year, they have asked for signatures to campaign against occupational violence. Over 21,000 incidents of occupational violence occurred in Queensland last year. The campaign has over 1000 personal testimonies from education staff injured in the workplace, including mine. Yet the Qld Director of General Education has refused to meet with UWU. Tell me, Mr Bleijie, where is government support for education staff, like myself, who have been injured at work?
Your government represents systemic failures in keeping staff and students safe. Your government has not provided funding for our most vulnerable students. Your government is responsible for change.
So let me ask you, Mr Bleijie, why does the LNP hate education?
Sincerely,
DA, TA
Well said
ms spock said:
Divine Angel said:
Dear Mr Bleijie,With reference to your viral postscript on social media asking, “Why do the Greens hate education?”, I’d like to ask you the same question.
Although important, this is not about koalas in Ormiston. This is about broken election promises and systemic failure within Queensland schools.
The LNP’s election promises included more teachers, more education support staff, more funding for resources, and more specialist behavioural teachers. I ask you, Mr Bleijie, where is that funding? Where are those teachers? Where are those support staff?
The United Workers Union represents teacher aides and school cleaners in Queensland. This year, they have asked for signatures to campaign against occupational violence. Over 21,000 incidents of occupational violence occurred in Queensland last year. The campaign has over 1000 personal testimonies from education staff injured in the workplace, including mine. Yet the Qld Director of General Education has refused to meet with UWU. Tell me, Mr Bleijie, where is government support for education staff, like myself, who have been injured at work?
Your government represents systemic failures in keeping staff and students safe. Your government has not provided funding for our most vulnerable students. Your government is responsible for change.
So let me ask you, Mr Bleijie, why does the LNP hate education?
Sincerely,
DA, TA
Well said
^^^
:)
ahahahahahahahahahaha
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-10/qld-credit-rating-downgrade/107139976
Queensland is on the brink of a credit rating downgrade, piling further pressure onto the state’s spiralling multi-billion-dollar debt and interest costs. The ABC understands a downgrade is imminent, sparking a blame game between Canberra and the LNP state government. AMP chief economist Shane Oliver said a knock to Queensland’s AA+ rating would see the cost of maintaining its ballooning debt increase.
this proves what good economic managers Corruption are, everyone knows that if Communism were running the place then the downgrade would have happened 3 years ago the bastards
wait
see everyone knows

OK
The head of Instagram says the average person who turns off their algorithm will have a much worse “user experience” and he does not think the platform is addictive. The comments come two days after the Albanese government announced a proposal to force platforms to give Australians a choice to quit their algorithmically-curated feed. Chronological feeds are already available to Instagram users in Australia but Adam Mosseri said user awareness was low, and there was “room to improve discoverability”.
so he’s lying
SCIENCE said:
OK
The head of Instagram says the average person who turns off their algorithm will have a much worse “user experience” and he does not think the platform is addictive. The comments come two days after the Albanese government announced a proposal to force platforms to give Australians a choice to quit their algorithmically-curated feed. Chronological feeds are already available to Instagram users in Australia but Adam Mosseri said user awareness was low, and there was “room to improve discoverability”.
so he’s lying
Reminds me of: “I believe that nicotine is not additive”.
These companies actively researched addictive behaviours and adapted their products to make them addictive.
alleged

ms spock said:
Divine Angel said:
Dear Mr Bleijie,With reference to your viral postscript on social media asking, “Why do the Greens hate education?”, I’d like to ask you the same question.
Although important, this is not about koalas in Ormiston. This is about broken election promises and systemic failure within Queensland schools.
The LNP’s election promises included more teachers, more education support staff, more funding for resources, and more specialist behavioural teachers. I ask you, Mr Bleijie, where is that funding? Where are those teachers? Where are those support staff?
The United Workers Union represents teacher aides and school cleaners in Queensland. This year, they have asked for signatures to campaign against occupational violence. Over 21,000 incidents of occupational violence occurred in Queensland last year. The campaign has over 1000 personal testimonies from education staff injured in the workplace, including mine. Yet the Qld Director of General Education has refused to meet with UWU. Tell me, Mr Bleijie, where is government support for education staff, like myself, who have been injured at work?
Your government represents systemic failures in keeping staff and students safe. Your government has not provided funding for our most vulnerable students. Your government is responsible for change.
So let me ask you, Mr Bleijie, why does the LNP hate education?
Sincerely,
DA, TA
Well said
+1
SCIENCE said:
OK
The head of Instagram says the average person who turns off their algorithm will have a much worse “user experience” and he does not think the platform is addictive. The comments come two days after the Albanese government announced a proposal to force platforms to give Australians a choice to quit their algorithmically-curated feed. Chronological feeds are already available to Instagram users in Australia but Adam Mosseri said user awareness was low, and there was “room to improve discoverability”.
so he’s lying
He is indeed!
https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/queensland-faces-imminent-credit-rating-downgrade-amid-bond-market-turmoil-20260910-p60w7k
Queensland faces credit rating downgrade as treasurers trade blows
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:OK
The head of Instagram says the average person who turns off their algorithm will have a much worse “user experience” and he does not think the platform is addictive. The comments come two days after the Albanese government announced a proposal to force platforms to give Australians a choice to quit their algorithmically-curated feed. Chronological feeds are already available to Instagram users in Australia but Adam Mosseri said user awareness was low, and there was “room to improve discoverability”.
so he’s lying
Reminds me of: “I believe that nicotine is not additive”.
These companies actively researched addictive behaviours and adapted their products to make them addictive.
Silicon Valley does not let their children iPads and mobiles. Steve Jobs didn’t let his kids use iPads.
ms spock said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:OK
The head of Instagram says the average person who turns off their algorithm will have a much worse “user experience” and he does not think the platform is addictive. The comments come two days after the Albanese government announced a proposal to force platforms to give Australians a choice to quit their algorithmically-curated feed. Chronological feeds are already available to Instagram users in Australia but Adam Mosseri said user awareness was low, and there was “room to improve discoverability”.
so he’s lying
Reminds me of: “I believe that nicotine is not additive”.
These companies actively researched addictive behaviours and adapted their products to make them addictive.
Silicon Valley does not let their children iPads and mobiles. Steve Jobs didn’t let his kids use iPads.
They used them but their screen time was restricted. Which is what all parents should be doing.. moderation..
Arts said:
ms spock said:
party_pants said:Reminds me of: “I believe that nicotine is not additive”.
These companies actively researched addictive behaviours and adapted their products to make them addictive.
Silicon Valley does not let their children iPads and mobiles. Steve Jobs didn’t let his kids use iPads.
They used them but their screen time was restricted. Which is what all parents should be doing.. moderation..
wait, screen time can mean a lot of things… so maybe they didn’t use ipads specifically, but a restricted screen time still is a great idea.
Fiona Wood and her sister are friends of mine… Fiona did not have a TV in her house when her children were growing up.
Arts said:
Arts said:
ms spock said:Silicon Valley does not let their children iPads and mobiles. Steve Jobs didn’t let his kids use iPads.
They used them but their screen time was restricted. Which is what all parents should be doing.. moderation..
wait, screen time can mean a lot of things… so maybe they didn’t use ipads specifically, but a restricted screen time still is a great idea.
Fiona Wood and her sister are friends of mine… Fiona did not have a TV in her house when her children were growing up.
Do you think perhaps and I can’t say I’ve ever checked
That Gen X who grew up with no social media of any type in our teens and 20’s, primitive PC’s that required skill to use, etc have better overall sensibility with it.
Also I don’t know about you but in my teens and 20’s we would just disappear all day on weekends and after school and no one really worried.
I’d go clubbing in my 20’s with people I just meet and it was perfectly safe.
All of that seems to have taken away with it being deemed irresponsible if you had no clue where your children are nowadays.
So much social media is bullying often anonymous so isn’t easy to deal with.
Its nasty as well as an adult you could probably sue someone and we expect children or did to just roll with it.
SCIENCE said:
OK
The head of Instagram says the average person who turns off their algorithm will have a much worse “user experience” and he does not think the platform is addictive. The comments come two days after the Albanese government announced a proposal to force platforms to give Australians a choice to quit their algorithmically-curated feed. Chronological feeds are already available to Instagram users in Australia but Adam Mosseri said user awareness was low, and there was “room to improve discoverability”.
so he’s lying
Pretty sure that the people who never use Instragram have the best experience
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
OK
The head of Instagram says the average person who turns off their algorithm will have a much worse “user experience” and he does not think the platform is addictive. The comments come two days after the Albanese government announced a proposal to force platforms to give Australians a choice to quit their algorithmically-curated feed. Chronological feeds are already available to Instagram users in Australia but Adam Mosseri said user awareness was low, and there was “room to improve discoverability”.
so he’s lying
Pretty sure that the people who never use Instragram have the best experience
maybe that’s what he means, “any procedure that generates a result is an algorithm, therefore if you turn off the algorithm you will already have accumulated worse experience than someone who never started using the algorithm in the first place”
feels like the classic entrapment question “have you turned off the algorithm yet”
Arts said:
ms spock said:Silicon Valley does not let their children iPads and mobiles. Steve Jobs didn’t let his kids use iPads.
They used them but their screen time was restricted. Which is what all parents should be doing.. moderation..
When asked in a 2011 interview with The New York Times if his children loved the iPad, Jobs replied that they had not used it and explained, “We don’t allow the iPad in the home. We think it’s too dangerous for them.
ms spock said:
Arts said:
ms spock said:Silicon Valley does not let their children iPads and mobiles. Steve Jobs didn’t let his kids use iPads.
They used them but their screen time was restricted. Which is what all parents should be doing.. moderation..
When asked in a 2011 interview with The New York Times if his children loved the iPad, Jobs replied that they had not used it and explained, “We don’t allow the iPad in the home. We think it’s too dangerous for them.
what about the current lot
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
Arts said:They used them but their screen time was restricted. Which is what all parents should be doing.. moderation..
When asked in a 2011 interview with The New York Times if his children loved the iPad, Jobs replied that they had not used it and explained, “We don’t allow the iPad in the home. We think it’s too dangerous for them.
what about the current lot
Last I read no mobiles until they are 16. Mobiles collected at night and returned in the morning.

Labor maintains significant leads over both ONP and LNP.
ms spock said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
OK
The head of Instagram says the average person who turns off their algorithm will have a much worse “user experience” and he does not think the platform is addictive. The comments come two days after the Albanese government announced a proposal to force platforms to give Australians a choice to quit their algorithmically-curated feed. Chronological feeds are already available to Instagram users in Australia but Adam Mosseri said user awareness was low, and there was “room to improve discoverability”.
so he’s lying
Reminds me of: “I believe that nicotine is not additive”.
These companies actively researched addictive behaviours and adapted their products to make them addictive.
Silicon Valley does not let their children iPads and mobiles. Steve Jobs didn’t let his kids use iPads.
thing is by simple selection iteration they don’t really need to “research” what gives them the most profit
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:When asked in a 2011 interview with The New York Times if his children loved the iPad, Jobs replied that they had not used it and explained, “We don’t allow the iPad in the home. We think it’s too dangerous for them.
what about the current lot
Last I read no mobiles until they are 16. Mobiles collected at night and returned in the morning.
it’s kind of funny though because then you have the average fellas just railing against the bans
totally sensible
so what do Steve Job’s children do now?
One is a writer, one is a fashion model and equestrian, one has a masters degree from Stanford and is a venture capitalist and health philanthropist, and the last one is very private but has studied in architecture and design.
all great accomplishments but nothing out of the ordinary for any children who have a very privileged life.
some people don’t hold hoses mate
Arts said:
so what do Steve Job’s children do now?One is a writer, one is a fashion model and equestrian, one has a masters degree from Stanford and is a venture capitalist and health philanthropist, and the last one is very private but has studied in architecture and design.
all great accomplishments but nothing out of the ordinary for any children who have a very privileged life.
Jobs had some strange ideas, notably his notion that his cancer could be cured by a fruit-only diet.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
so what do Steve Job’s children do now?One is a writer, one is a fashion model and equestrian, one has a masters degree from Stanford and is a venture capitalist and health philanthropist, and the last one is very private but has studied in architecture and design.
all great accomplishments but nothing out of the ordinary for any children who have a very privileged life.
Jobs had some strange ideas, notably his notion that his cancer could be cured by a fruit-only diet.
Jobs was a hack good at cajoling others to create shiny things. Wozniak was the visionary.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
so what do Steve Job’s children do now?One is a writer, one is a fashion model and equestrian, one has a masters degree from Stanford and is a venture capitalist and health philanthropist, and the last one is very private but has studied in architecture and design.
all great accomplishments but nothing out of the ordinary for any children who have a very privileged life.
Jobs had some strange ideas, notably his notion that his cancer could be cured by a fruit-only diet.
Jobs was a hack good at cajoling others to create shiny things. Wozniak was the visionary.
Indeed. My real bias for Jobs was his involvement with Pixar. He bought Lucasfilm’s graphics department and pushed for it to make animated films. Pixar hasn’t done too badly for itself despite Jobs’ involvement. I’m not sure on the exact details but he used his Apple money to finance Pixar in the early days.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
so what do Steve Job’s children do now?One is a writer, one is a fashion model and equestrian, one has a masters degree from Stanford and is a venture capitalist and health philanthropist, and the last one is very private but has studied in architecture and design.
all great accomplishments but nothing out of the ordinary for any children who have a very privileged life.
Jobs had some strange ideas, notably his notion that his cancer could be cured by a fruit-only diet.
It’s these outcomes that to me thrown a spanner in the works of conspiracies of big pharma having cures for cancer.
If they do then why do billionaires die, whose the target market then, billionaire illuminati
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ms spock said:
party_pants said:
Reminds me of: “I believe that nicotine is not additive”.
These companies actively researched addictive behaviours and adapted their products to make them addictive.
Silicon Valley does not let their children iPads and mobiles. Steve Jobs didn’t let his kids use iPads.
thing is by simple selection iteration they don’t really need to “research” what gives them the most profit
They’ve done the research. That’s why they have whistle blowers quitting and speaking out.
One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts resurfaces 9/11 conspiracy claims in podcast
One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts has suggested the September 11 terror attack was a hoax in a resurfaced 2021 podcast, raising conspiracy theories about controlled demolitions on the eve of the attack’s 25th anniversary. The remarks add to ongoing controversies surrounding the senator and his party.
Roberts, who has previously promoted Holocaust denial material and questioned the COVID-19 pandemic, echoed claims that World Trade Centre Building 7 collapsed due to controlled demolition, despite a US investigation finding it was caused by uncontrolled fires. He has also faced scrutiny over comments about the Bondi massacre and chemtrails, which he denies endorsing.
The controversy has strained One Nation, with leader Pauline Hanson defending Roberts while some colleagues privately express concern. The party faces additional scrutiny over its finances and other personnel issues, though it remains ascendant in polls.
FFS ….
Spiny Norman said:
One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts resurfaces 9/11 conspiracy claims in podcastOne Nation senator Malcolm Roberts has suggested the September 11 terror attack was a hoax in a resurfaced 2021 podcast, raising conspiracy theories about controlled demolitions on the eve of the attack’s 25th anniversary. The remarks add to ongoing controversies surrounding the senator and his party.
Roberts, who has previously promoted Holocaust denial material and questioned the COVID-19 pandemic, echoed claims that World Trade Centre Building 7 collapsed due to controlled demolition, despite a US investigation finding it was caused by uncontrolled fires. He has also faced scrutiny over comments about the Bondi massacre and chemtrails, which he denies endorsing.
The controversy has strained One Nation, with leader Pauline Hanson defending Roberts while some colleagues privately express concern. The party faces additional scrutiny over its finances and other personnel issues, though it remains ascendant in polls.
FFS ….
It was always going to be a problem. Pauline attracts them.
Spiny Norman said:
One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts resurfaces 9/11 conspiracy claims in podcastOne Nation senator Malcolm Roberts has suggested the September 11 terror attack was a hoax in a resurfaced 2021 podcast, raising conspiracy theories about controlled demolitions on the eve of the attack’s 25th anniversary. The remarks add to ongoing controversies surrounding the senator and his party.
Roberts, who has previously promoted Holocaust denial material and questioned the COVID-19 pandemic, echoed claims that World Trade Centre Building 7 collapsed due to controlled demolition, despite a US investigation finding it was caused by uncontrolled fires. He has also faced scrutiny over comments about the Bondi massacre and chemtrails, which he denies endorsing.
The controversy has strained One Nation, with leader Pauline Hanson defending Roberts while some colleagues privately express concern. The party faces additional scrutiny over its finances and other personnel issues, though it remains ascendant in polls.
FFS ….
Sigh.
roughbarked said:
Spiny Norman said:
One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts resurfaces 9/11 conspiracy claims in podcast
One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts has suggested the September 11 terror attack was a hoax in a resurfaced 2021 podcast, raising conspiracy theories about controlled demolitions on the eve of the attack’s 25th anniversary. The remarks add to ongoing controversies surrounding the senator and his party.
Roberts, who has previously promoted Holocaust denial material and questioned the COVID-19 pandemic, echoed claims that World Trade Centre Building 7 collapsed due to controlled demolition, despite a US investigation finding it was caused by uncontrolled fires. He has also faced scrutiny over comments about the Bondi massacre and chemtrails, which he denies endorsing.
The controversy has strained One Nation, with leader Pauline Hanson defending Roberts while some colleagues privately express concern. The party faces additional scrutiny over its finances and other personnel issues, though it remains ascendant in polls.
FFS ….
It was always going to be a problem. Pauline attracts them.
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How unsurprising.
Spiny Norman said:
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How unsurprising.
Good for them. Why is this news?
Divine Angel said:
Spiny Norman said:
How unsurprising.
Good for them. Why is this news?
because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere-exposure_effect means the captured media can rustle up more support for the fascists