Date: 19/09/2026 02:27:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2430962
Subject: Venus ate its own moon

…if indeed it ever had a moon at all. BBC takes up the story.

Study says that if Venus ever did have a moon, the planet’s spin and gravity would cause the moon to be swallowed by it

Earth and Venus orbit the Sun side by side and, compared to the icy, gassy giants of the outer Solar System, the two planets are relatively similar.

So why is it that Earth has a Moon – indeed, our other neighbour Mars has two – but Venus has none?

Scientists have come up with an intriguing new theory. They say Venus ate its own moon.

The story of Venus’s lost moon

Earth’s Moon is thought to have formed when a small planetary body – name Theia – smashed into our home planet during the more chaotic early days of the Solar System.

Scientists have previously suggested that Venus may have had a moon at one time, but the Venusian satellite was obliterated when it got hit by a much bigger body.

Another theory regarding Venus’s lack of a moon suggests Venus simply never experienced a collision – like Earth did – that formed a moon in the first place.

Gravity always wins

A team of scientists at the University of California, Riverside in the USA have published a study in The Astrophysical Journal that says neither of the theories explain Venus’s sans-satellite status.

“My study shows Venus didn’t require a catastrophe to arrive at what we can see today,” says UCR astrophysicist and lead author of the study Stephen Kane.

“It turns out the gravity of the planet itself, combined with the rate at which it spins, naturally caused Venus’s moon to collapse on top of it.”

Key to this theory is the fact that Earth’s Moon is gradually floating away from it, year by year.

Scientists know this because the Apollo astronauts left mirrors on the lunar surface that scientists can bounce lasers off to accurately measure the distance from Earth to the Moon.

The results show that the Moon is moving away from Earth at a rate of 3.8cm (1.5 inches) a year.

“We know that the Moon is slowly moving away from Earth at a rate of around 4cm per year,” Kane says.

This is happening, Kane says, because Earth spins so fast – once every 24 hours.

The energy from this rapid rotation is transferred to the Moon, causing it to move away from Earth.

But Venus, the scientists say, is the exact opposite. It takes Venus 243 Earth days to complete a single rotation.

So rather than moving away, that slow spin combined with Venus’s gravity would cause a moon to spiral inward.

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Date: 19/09/2026 06:16:39
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2430975
Subject: re: Venus ate its own moon

So basically: we don’t know if Venus ever had a moon.

Mercury lacks a moon, Earth’s was formed in a collision with Theia, Mars’ twin moons are likely captured asteroids, and the gas giants have rocky moons probably leftover from collisions or captured worlds. It’s not a stretch for Venus to have never had a moon. But how bout that spin?

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Date: 19/09/2026 07:56:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2430984
Subject: re: Venus ate its own moon

Divine Angel said:


So basically: we don’t know if Venus ever had a moon.

Mercury lacks a moon, Earth’s was formed in a collision with Theia, Mars’ twin moons are likely captured asteroids, and the gas giants have rocky moons probably leftover from collisions or captured worlds. It’s not a stretch for Venus to have never had a moon. But how bout that spin?

Not having a Moon, it is tidally locked to the Sun.

He said without really being sure or bothering to check if that is actually true.

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Date: 19/09/2026 08:01:25
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2430986
Subject: re: Venus ate its own moon

The Rev Dodgson said:


Divine Angel said:

So basically: we don’t know if Venus ever had a moon.

Mercury lacks a moon, Earth’s was formed in a collision with Theia, Mars’ twin moons are likely captured asteroids, and the gas giants have rocky moons probably leftover from collisions or captured worlds. It’s not a stretch for Venus to have never had a moon. But how bout that spin?

Not having a Moon, it is tidally locked to the Sun.

He said without really being sure or bothering to check if that is actually true.

… and the Bing bot says I am wrong:

No, Venus is not tidally locked to the Sun; it rotates slowly in a retrograde direction, with a day longer than its year.
Venus completes one orbit around the Sun in 225 Earth days but takes 243 Earth days to complete a full rotation on its axis, spinning backward (retrograde) compared to most planets
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. This means that unlike a tidally locked body, such as the Moon, Venus does not always show the same face to the Sun. Its slow rotation combined with retrograde motion results in a solar day—the time from one sunrise to the next—of approximately 116.75 Earth days
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Why Venus Isn’t Tidally Locked
Venus lies close to the tidal locking threshold due to its proximity to the Sun, and without other influences, tidal forces could have synchronized its rotation with its orbit
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. However, Venus’s thick, super-rotating atmosphere, which circulates around the planet in just four Earth days, exerts significant torque on the planet’s surface. This atmospheric drag counteracts the Sun’s tidal forces, preventing full tidal locking
ScienceAlert
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.

Additional Factors
Scientists also suggest that early collisions or massive impacts in Venus’s history may have contributed to its retrograde rotation, further complicating any tidal locking process
biologyinsights.com
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. Observational coincidences, such as Venus presenting nearly the same face toward Earth every 584 Earth days, are due to a near 5:1 spin-orbit resonance with Earth, not true tidal locking
biologyinsights.com
biologyinsights.com
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Summary
Sidereal day: 243 Earth days
Orbital period: 225 Earth days
Rotation: Retrograde (east to west)
Solar day: ~117 Earth days
Reason not tidally locked: Thick atmosphere and historical impacts prevent synchronization with the Sun
ScienceAlert
ScienceAlert
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.
Venus’s unique combination of slow, retrograde rotation and a dense atmosphere makes it the only planet in the solar system that is not tidally locked despite being close enough to the Sun for tidal forces to be significant.

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Date: 19/09/2026 08:08:19
From: Michael V
ID: 2430989
Subject: re: Venus ate its own moon

The Rev Dodgson said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Divine Angel said:

So basically: we don’t know if Venus ever had a moon.

Mercury lacks a moon, Earth’s was formed in a collision with Theia, Mars’ twin moons are likely captured asteroids, and the gas giants have rocky moons probably leftover from collisions or captured worlds. It’s not a stretch for Venus to have never had a moon. But how bout that spin?

Not having a Moon, it is tidally locked to the Sun.

He said without really being sure or bothering to check if that is actually true.

… and the Bing bot says I am wrong:

No, Venus is not tidally locked to the Sun; it rotates slowly in a retrograde direction, with a day longer than its year.
Venus completes one orbit around the Sun in 225 Earth days but takes 243 Earth days to complete a full rotation on its axis, spinning backward (retrograde) compared to most planets
biologyinsights.com
biologyinsights.com
+1
. This means that unlike a tidally locked body, such as the Moon, Venus does not always show the same face to the Sun. Its slow rotation combined with retrograde motion results in a solar day—the time from one sunrise to the next—of approximately 116.75 Earth days
biologyinsights.com
biologyinsights.com
+1
.

Why Venus Isn’t Tidally Locked
Venus lies close to the tidal locking threshold due to its proximity to the Sun, and without other influences, tidal forces could have synchronized its rotation with its orbit
ScienceAlert
ScienceAlert
+1
. However, Venus’s thick, super-rotating atmosphere, which circulates around the planet in just four Earth days, exerts significant torque on the planet’s surface. This atmospheric drag counteracts the Sun’s tidal forces, preventing full tidal locking
ScienceAlert
ScienceAlert
+2
.

Additional Factors
Scientists also suggest that early collisions or massive impacts in Venus’s history may have contributed to its retrograde rotation, further complicating any tidal locking process
biologyinsights.com
biologyinsights.com
+1
. Observational coincidences, such as Venus presenting nearly the same face toward Earth every 584 Earth days, are due to a near 5:1 spin-orbit resonance with Earth, not true tidal locking
biologyinsights.com
biologyinsights.com
.

Summary
Sidereal day: 243 Earth days
Orbital period: 225 Earth days
Rotation: Retrograde (east to west)
Solar day: ~117 Earth days
Reason not tidally locked: Thick atmosphere and historical impacts prevent synchronization with the Sun
ScienceAlert
ScienceAlert
+3
.
Venus’s unique combination of slow, retrograde rotation and a dense atmosphere makes it the only planet in the solar system that is not tidally locked despite being close enough to the Sun for tidal forces to be significant.

makes it the only planet in the solar system that is not tidally locked

What?

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Date: 19/09/2026 08:30:01
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2430994
Subject: re: Venus ate its own moon

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Venus’s unique combination of slow, retrograde rotation and a dense atmosphere makes it the only planet in the solar system that is not tidally locked despite being close enough to the Sun for tidal forces to be significant.

makes it the only planet in the solar system that is not tidally locked

What?

I presume they mean the only planet close enough to be locked but isn’t.

So, I suppose, Mercury is the only planet close enough to be locked that is.

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Date: 19/09/2026 09:00:51
From: Michael V
ID: 2431008
Subject: re: Venus ate its own moon

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Venus’s unique combination of slow, retrograde rotation and a dense atmosphere makes it the only planet in the solar system that is not tidally locked despite being close enough to the Sun for tidal forces to be significant.

makes it the only planet in the solar system that is not tidally locked

What?

I presume they mean the only planet close enough to be locked but isn’t.

So, I suppose, Mercury is the only planet close enough to be locked that is.

What an odd way of putting it.

Anyway, thanks for explaining.

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Date: 20/09/2026 19:53:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 2431518
Subject: re: Venus ate its own moon

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

makes it the only planet in the solar system that is not tidally locked

What?

I presume they mean the only planet close enough to be locked but isn’t.

So, I suppose, Mercury is the only planet close enough to be locked that is.

What an odd way of putting it.

Anyway, thanks for explaining.

and interesting to learn about.

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