They are today as you well know. I’ve been waiting patiently all year for this.
Come on you lot.
Get commentating.
They are today as you well know. I’ve been waiting patiently all year for this.
Come on you lot.
Get commentating.
Woodie said:
They are today as you well know. I’ve been waiting patiently all year for this.Come on you lot.
Get commentating.
Comment, comment, comment.
Rinse and repeat.
Will Democrat voters be mown down by Trump’s troops, followed by a huge flood of refugees seeking asylum in Canada and Oz?
Only time will tell.
Another little something from my sister in Houston.
Bubblecar said:
Will Democrat voters be mown down by Trump’s troops, followed by a huge flood of refugees seeking asylum in Canada and Oz?Only time will tell.
I very much doubt that US military would turn their guns on Americans at Trump’s order.
As i’ve said before, they swear an oath to the US Constitution, not to the US President.
I’m confident that, given the choice between obeying what their Constitution provides for, and the orders of a US President (especially this President), the Constitution will come out in front.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Will Democrat voters be mown down by Trump’s troops, followed by a huge flood of refugees seeking asylum in Canada and Oz?Only time will tell.
I very much doubt that US military would turn their guns on Americans at Trump’s order.
As i’ve said before, they swear an oath to the US Constitution, not to the US President.
I’m confident that, given the choice between obeying what their Constitution provides for, and the orders of a US President (especially this President), the Constitution will come out in front.
No soldiers and Trump is fuming
He’s finally on his own
This summer I hear the drumming
One dead in Mar-A -Lago…
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Will Democrat voters be mown down by Trump’s troops, followed by a huge flood of refugees seeking asylum in Canada and Oz?Only time will tell.
I very much doubt that US military would turn their guns on Americans at Trump’s order.
As i’ve said before, they swear an oath to the US Constitution, not to the US President.
I’m confident that, given the choice between obeying what their Constitution provides for, and the orders of a US President (especially this President), the Constitution will come out in front.
You are more confident than I in that.
Neophyte said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Will Democrat voters be mown down by Trump’s troops, followed by a huge flood of refugees seeking asylum in Canada and Oz?Only time will tell.
I very much doubt that US military would turn their guns on Americans at Trump’s order.
As i’ve said before, they swear an oath to the US Constitution, not to the US President.
I’m confident that, given the choice between obeying what their Constitution provides for, and the orders of a US President (especially this President), the Constitution will come out in front.
No soldiers and Trump is fuming
He’s finally on his own
This summer I hear the drumming
One dead in Mar-A -Lago…
One can but hope.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-03/us-midterm-elections-2026-live-updates/107335552
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Will Democrat voters be mown down by Trump’s troops, followed by a huge flood of refugees seeking asylum in Canada and Oz?Only time will tell.
I very much doubt that US military would turn their guns on Americans at Trump’s order.
As i’ve said before, they swear an oath to the US Constitution, not to the US President.
I’m confident that, given the choice between obeying what their Constitution provides for, and the orders of a US President (especially this President), the Constitution will come out in front.
You are more confident than I in that.
I suppose it depends on how he appeals to them
I can imagine if he appeals to the racists ones say you can kill as many of these <insert racially="" insulting="" name=""> as you like</insert>
shrug ice only killed foreign criminals, don’t worry
The Midterms
By Friendly Jordies.
This is when we find out who ICE really serve.
Let’s hope the elections are free and fair without a hint of shenanigans. Let’s hope Trump accepts the outcome without any ranting lies about vote rigging and cheating.
Big ask. This could be the start of a civil war, or this might go the other way and democracy wins out.
I’m a bit stressed.
kii said:
I’m a bit stressed.
Me too.
party_pants said:
kii said:
I’m a bit stressed.
Me too.
Polling stations have begun to pen, and voters are making their selections.
As summary of reports so far:
In-person voting for the U.S. midterm elections on November 3, 2026, has begun smoothly across the country with relatively few structural or logistical problems reported.
As polling stations opened on Tuesday morning, the primary localized disruptions reported are environmental rather than systemic:
• Weather Disruptions in the Southwest: Heavy rains and severe flash flooding across portions of Colorado, Arizona, Utah, and New Mexico are currently making it physically difficult for some voters to reach their assigned polling stations.
• Navajo Nation Accommodations: Due to the severe weather, election administrators within the Navajo Nation have had to alter several polling locations.
• Electronic Voting in Utah: In rural San Juan County, Utah, election officials are proactively allowing certain voters to cast ballots electronically on Tuesday to circumvent severe road conditions preventing travel to physical voting centers.
Aside from these weather-related challenges, state and local authorities report that their voting infrastructure is fully operational.
Anticipated anxieties regarding widespread federal interference, the unlawful presence of armed officers, or widespread voting machine seizures have not materialized at polling locations.
Local election judges remain on standby with standard backup procedures and paper trails to address routine technical or administrative glitches if they occur throughout the day.
party_pants said:
kii said:
I’m a bit stressed.
Me too.
Ten years of this, it’s just too much.
Voters have their voting locations changed or shut down.
Folks are getting to other voting locations.
kii said:
party_pants said:
kii said:
I’m a bit stressed.
Me too.
Ten years of this, it’s just too much.
+1 It is just way too much.
Voting in the Eastern states is coming to a close and results are starting to trickle
My feeing is that were going to see democratic control in both the Senate and the House.
My predictions are:
Trump’s ‘closing argument’ rally at the Reflecting Pool, via Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:

captain_spalding said:
Trump’s ‘closing argument’ rally at the Reflecting Pool, via Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
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Snort.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Trump’s ‘closing argument’ rally at the Reflecting Pool, via Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
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Snort.
These days, Donny couldn’t draw a crowd with a pencil, paper, and six months of art lessons.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Trump’s ‘closing argument’ rally at the Reflecting Pool, via Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
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Snort.
These days, Donny couldn’t draw a crowd with a pencil, paper, and six months of art lessons.
Snort.
(Again.)
:)
Early doors but such results as are available for the House suggest something like a 10% to Democrats.
Senate elections are more pernickity but certainly the early signs are positive.
There are a few governor and state legislature results I’ll be tracking but in particular it would be great if the Republicans lose power in Texas. That state govt is a significant source of befoulment.
dv said:
Early doors but such results as are available for the House suggest something like a 10% to Democrats.Senate elections are more pernickity but certainly the early signs are positive.
There are a few governor and state legislature results I’ll be tracking but in particular it would be great if the Republicans lose power in Texas. That state govt is a significant source of befoulment.
10% SWING to Democrats.
So, do we think Trump has started throwing food around the room yet? He’s probably done the feet stamping thing already.
buffy said:
So, do we think Trump has started throwing food around the room yet? He’s probably done the feet stamping thing already.
yes they’re already threatening to defund their manipulation and interference agencies
US midterms briefing: Trump says US will stop $5.7b in aid to Israel
Pappas (D) has defeated Sununu ® to be New Hampshire senator. I expected this to be tough as Sununu is tremendously popular: was Republican governor in a Dem state for 8 years. I guess the news is that people vote for governor on state issues but for senator on national issues: or maybe this was just the wrong year to be a Republican.
buffy said:
So, do we think Trump has started throwing food around the room yet? He’s probably done the feet stamping thing already.
Looking at the world map, wondering who he can bomb next.
buffy said:
So, do we think Trump has started throwing food around the room yet? He’s probably done the feet stamping thing already.
He’s already decried Fox News’ coverage.
buffy said:
So, do we think Trump has started throwing food around the room yet? He’s probably done the feet stamping thing already.
I have no idea what if anything is in his head. Hos last few weeks of campaign speeches seemed very much designed to ruin things for Congressional Republicans.
There’s a lot to come in yet but at this point I’m confident of Dems at least reaching 51 senator seats. The new senate is sworn in on 3 Jan 2027. I assume there will be some pressure on Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito to retire from the Supreme Court, so that their replacements can be rushed through in this 2 month window.
dv said:
buffy said:
So, do we think Trump has started throwing food around the room yet? He’s probably done the feet stamping thing already.
I have no idea what if anything is in his head. Hos last few weeks of campaign speeches seemed very much designed to ruin things for Congressional Republicans.
There’s a lot to come in yet but at this point I’m confident of Dems at least reaching 51 senator seats. The new senate is sworn in on 3 Jan 2027. I assume there will be some pressure on Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito to retire from the Supreme Court, so that their replacements can be rushed through in this 2 month window.
A big risk is that, if the Dems do take control of the House (and more so, if they get the Senate, too) Trump feels that he’s both isolated and emasculated in a political sense.
He’s the sort who needs to constantly demonstrate (to himself, if no-one else) that he’s the boss, he’s in charge, he gives the orders.
So, my crack about ‘who to bomb next’ might be regrettably prescient.
Test:
® : No space in brackets
( R) : one space – left
(R ) : one space – right
( R ) : two spaces, one left, one right.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
buffy said:
So, do we think Trump has started throwing food around the room yet? He’s probably done the feet stamping thing already.
I have no idea what if anything is in his head. Hos last few weeks of campaign speeches seemed very much designed to ruin things for Congressional Republicans.
There’s a lot to come in yet but at this point I’m confident of Dems at least reaching 51 senator seats. The new senate is sworn in on 3 Jan 2027. I assume there will be some pressure on Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito to retire from the Supreme Court, so that their replacements can be rushed through in this 2 month window.
A big risk is that, if the Dems do take control of the House (and more so, if they get the Senate, too) Trump feels that he’s both isolated and emasculated in a political sense.
He’s the sort who needs to constantly demonstrate (to himself, if no-one else) that he’s the boss, he’s in charge, he gives the orders.
So, my crack about ‘who to bomb next’ might be regrettably prescient.
I think he has already had another go at Iran.
I was just pointing out that Sununu is a registered trademark.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
buffy said:
So, do we think Trump has started throwing food around the room yet? He’s probably done the feet stamping thing already.
I have no idea what if anything is in his head. Hos last few weeks of campaign speeches seemed very much designed to ruin things for Congressional Republicans.
There’s a lot to come in yet but at this point I’m confident of Dems at least reaching 51 senator seats. The new senate is sworn in on 3 Jan 2027. I assume there will be some pressure on Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito to retire from the Supreme Court, so that their replacements can be rushed through in this 2 month window.
A big risk is that, if the Dems do take control of the House (and more so, if they get the Senate, too) Trump feels that he’s both isolated and emasculated in a political sense.
He’s the sort who needs to constantly demonstrate (to himself, if no-one else) that he’s the boss, he’s in charge, he gives the orders.
So, my crack about ‘who to bomb next’ might be regrettably prescient.
One suspects he’s just itching to use a nuke on somebody….anybody.
Neophyte said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:I have no idea what if anything is in his head. Hos last few weeks of campaign speeches seemed very much designed to ruin things for Congressional Republicans.
There’s a lot to come in yet but at this point I’m confident of Dems at least reaching 51 senator seats. The new senate is sworn in on 3 Jan 2027. I assume there will be some pressure on Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito to retire from the Supreme Court, so that their replacements can be rushed through in this 2 month window.
A big risk is that, if the Dems do take control of the House (and more so, if they get the Senate, too) Trump feels that he’s both isolated and emasculated in a political sense.
He’s the sort who needs to constantly demonstrate (to himself, if no-one else) that he’s the boss, he’s in charge, he gives the orders.
So, my crack about ‘who to bomb next’ might be regrettably prescient.
One suspects he’s just itching to use a nuke on somebody….anybody.
CANADA!
Neophyte said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:I have no idea what if anything is in his head. Hos last few weeks of campaign speeches seemed very much designed to ruin things for Congressional Republicans.
There’s a lot to come in yet but at this point I’m confident of Dems at least reaching 51 senator seats. The new senate is sworn in on 3 Jan 2027. I assume there will be some pressure on Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito to retire from the Supreme Court, so that their replacements can be rushed through in this 2 month window.
A big risk is that, if the Dems do take control of the House (and more so, if they get the Senate, too) Trump feels that he’s both isolated and emasculated in a political sense.
He’s the sort who needs to constantly demonstrate (to himself, if no-one else) that he’s the boss, he’s in charge, he gives the orders.
So, my crack about ‘who to bomb next’ might be regrettably prescient.
One suspects he’s just itching to use a nuke on somebody….anybody.
We might be saved by his innumeracy.
Michael V said:
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( R) : one space – left
(R ) : one space – right
( R ) : two spaces, one left, one right.
Ⓓ
®
Uh with 80% counted, Talarico appears to have won the Texas senate race over Paxton by 14%.
For comparison, the Republicans won the last two senate races there by 10 and 8%. This represents a 22% to the Democrats.
My best case scenario estimate may not have been optimistic enough.
dv said:
I was just pointing out that Sununu is a registered trademark.
®ight.
Bubblecar said:
Neophyte said:
captain_spalding said:A big risk is that, if the Dems do take control of the House (and more so, if they get the Senate, too) Trump feels that he’s both isolated and emasculated in a political sense.
He’s the sort who needs to constantly demonstrate (to himself, if no-one else) that he’s the boss, he’s in charge, he gives the orders.
So, my crack about ‘who to bomb next’ might be regrettably prescient.
One suspects he’s just itching to use a nuke on somebody….anybody.
CANADA!
Let’s hope not.
fsm said:
Michael V said:
Test:® : No space in brackets
( R) : one space – left
(R ) : one space – right
( R ) : two spaces, one left, one right.
Ⓓ
®
:)
dv said:
Uh with 80% counted, Talarico appears to have won the Texas senate race over Paxton by 14%.For comparison, the Republicans won the last two senate races there by 10 and 8%. This represents a 22% to the Democrats.
My best case scenario estimate may not have been optimistic enough.

dv said:
Uh with 80% counted, Talarico appears to have won the Texas senate race over Paxton by 14%.For comparison, the Republicans won the last two senate races there by 10 and 8%. This represents a 22% to the Democrats.
My best case scenario estimate may not have been optimistic enough.
Wow!
She sounds like a medical procedure but Leisha Lance Bottoms (d) has won the Georgia governor race.
dv said:
Uh with 80% counted, Talarico appears to have won the Texas senate race over Paxton by 14%.For comparison, the Republicans won the last two senate races there by 10 and 8%. This represents a 22% to the Democrats.
My best case scenario estimate may not have been optimistic enough.
Great result. I hope my bigoted former neighbour is losing her fucking mind over this. An Evangelical, anti-choice, special needs teacher, disabled and raised in a hateful Republican family. She moved to Texas from NM because of politics and the prochoice stance of NM Democrats. She’s the one who threatened to shoot liberals, posted it on Facebook. I reported her.
captain_spalding said:
Trump’s ‘closing argument’ rally at the Reflecting Pool, via Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
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Looks like only the press turned up.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
buffy said:
So, do we think Trump has started throwing food around the room yet? He’s probably done the feet stamping thing already.
I have no idea what if anything is in his head. Hos last few weeks of campaign speeches seemed very much designed to ruin things for Congressional Republicans.
There’s a lot to come in yet but at this point I’m confident of Dems at least reaching 51 senator seats. The new senate is sworn in on 3 Jan 2027. I assume there will be some pressure on Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito to retire from the Supreme Court, so that their replacements can be rushed through in this 2 month window.
A big risk is that, if the Dems do take control of the House (and more so, if they get the Senate, too) Trump feels that he’s both isolated and emasculated in a political sense.
He’s the sort who needs to constantly demonstrate (to himself, if no-one else) that he’s the boss, he’s in charge, he gives the orders.
So, my crack about ‘who to bomb next’ might be regrettably prescient.
Don’t be so hard on yourself. It was predictable anyway.


ruby said:
Perfect.
Polls are now closed across a big chunk of the country, and Democrats are off to a strong start, picking up Senate seats in Georgia and North Carolina.
Republicans held onto their Senate seat in Florida, but they’re getting a bit nervous about how things are looking in South Carolina, where Sen. Darline Graham is fighting to keep her job.
Over in Georgia, Keisha Lance Bottoms (D) won the governor’s race, making history as the state’s first female governor and the first Black woman to lead any U.S. state.
Voting’s wrapped up on the East Coast and through much of the middle of the country, but the West Coast is still going. The very last polls close at 1 a.m. Eastern in Alaska’s Aleutian Islands.
Early indications are showing swings to the Dems in the order of 14% to 16%. That will likely even out as the mid west comes into play.
Lots of people posting that the Democrats have won the house, also Annie Andrews has defeated Darline Graham.
diddly-squat said:
Early indications are showing swings to the Dems in the order of 14% to 16%. That will likely even out as the mid west comes into play.
Hoping the wave doesn’t dump too early.
kii said:
Lots of people posting that the Democrats have won the house, also Annie Andrews has defeated Darline Graham.
Currently 102 to the repub’s 60.


ruby said:
LOL
I think most interestingly is that today marks the beginning of the end of the Trump Era
diddly-squat said:
I think most interestingly is that today marks the beginning of the end of the Trump Era
Not if he can help it. He’ll go down fighting.
There’s a few billionaires and trillionaires sobbing in a corner today, having wasted their bets on the wrong horses.
tiny violins
ruby said:
There’s a few billionaires and trillionaires sobbing in a corner today, having wasted their bets on the wrong horses.
tiny violins
And the effort they put into that is going to bite them on the arse, hopefully severely.
Spiny Norman said:
ruby said:
There’s a few billionaires and trillionaires sobbing in a corner today, having wasted their bets on the wrong horses.
tiny violins
And the effort they put into that is going to bite them on the arse, hopefully severely.
Yep. Karma.
Gina might be rethinking her life choices today as well.
extra tiny violins
kii said:
:)
ruby said:
There’s a few billionaires and trillionaires sobbing in a corner today, having wasted their bets on the wrong horses.
tiny violins
:)
ruby said:
Spiny Norman said:
ruby said:
There’s a few billionaires and trillionaires sobbing in a corner today, having wasted their bets on the wrong horses.
tiny violins
And the effort they put into that is going to bite them on the arse, hopefully severely.
Yep. Karma.
Gina might be rethinking her life choices today as well.
extra tiny violins
I hope she does. But I doubt it.

ruby said:
Spiny Norman said:
ruby said:
There’s a few billionaires and trillionaires sobbing in a corner today, having wasted their bets on the wrong horses.
tiny violins
And the effort they put into that is going to bite them on the arse, hopefully severely.
Yep. Karma.
Gina might be rethinking her life choices today as well.
extra tiny violins
Wonder if Elon will miss his 200 mill?
Michael V said:
ruby said:
Spiny Norman said:And the effort they put into that is going to bite them on the arse, hopefully severely.
Yep. Karma.
Gina might be rethinking her life choices today as well.
extra tiny violins
I hope she does. But I doubt it.
Her choices are entrenched.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
ruby said:Yep. Karma.
Gina might be rethinking her life choices today as well.
extra tiny violins
I hope she does. But I doubt it.
Her choices are entrenched.
Open cut.
captain_spalding said:
Republicans are getting a shellacking.
The white male demographic has been the Republicans’ most reliable base this millennium. In 2024 Congressional elections, exit polls indicated they went 62% R, 38% D.
Exit polls today indicate a 50-50 split, and this may be the biggest shift among any demographic group since 2 years ago.
Ohio has a new Democratic governor.
fsm said:

我们看到你那里做了什么。
Both sides continue to gain seats in the House, but GOP fewer than Dems.
How it was at 1:40 pm.

How it is now:

Deb Haaland is the new governor of NM.
ruby said:
Spiny Norman said:
ruby said:
There’s a few billionaires and trillionaires sobbing in a corner today, having wasted their bets on the wrong horses.
tiny violins
And the effort they put into that is going to bite them on the arse, hopefully severely.
Yep. Karma.
Gina might be rethinking her life choices today as well.
extra tiny violins
pftf now is the time they will scatter into the wind and take the massive profits they have reaped and use them to interfere in all the other countries to raise the profile of fascism with a view to not just restoring greatness to their homeland which they will return to in victory someday, but ensuring it is embedded in a world of fascism in which it can take its rightful role as leader
66% of the vote in Texas has been counted and Talarico is up by 20 points
Messed that up.
HERE’S the 1:40 pm tally:

Here’s now:

“ Donald Trump has blamed tonight’s election results on the fact that he wasn’t on the ballot.
“I wasn’t on the Ballot and if I was, we would have won IN A LANDSLIDE!,” the president wrote in a social media post.”
Neophyte said:
“ Donald Trump has blamed tonight’s election results on the fact that he wasn’t on the ballot.“I wasn’t on the Ballot and if I was, we would have won IN A LANDSLIDE!,” the president wrote in a social media post.”
It’s just another charming aspect of living in the land of the pixies, where you can be a US Senator or Congress member, while simultaneously being President.
captain_spalding said:
Messed that up.HERE’S the 1:40 pm tally:
Here’s now:
Things are getting interesting:

Abbott has conceded in Texas
diddly-squat said:
Abbott has conceded in Texas
Blimey, Tony just can’t accept that he no longer has a political career anywhere, can he?
The Republicans have had a surge in House wins, and i wonder if this is because counting in the fly-over states has begun to show up.
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:Abbott has conceded in Texas
Blimey, Tony just can’t accept that he no longer has a political career anywhere, can he?
People can leave an onion by their front door….

dv said:
there is a Mitch Hedberg joke in there somewhere

And a suitable response to that is …

Neophyte said:
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:Abbott has conceded in Texas
Blimey, Tony just can’t accept that he no longer has a political career anywhere, can he?
People can leave an onion by their front door….
A genuine laugh from me.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
Messed that up.HERE’S the 1:40 pm tally:
Here’s now:
Things are getting interesting:
The Dems have 50 Senate seats. One more for a majority.

Ooh, Texas! While I went away to read and nap, things moved.
Spiny Norman said:
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And a suitable response to that is …
Did he end up building that bunker?
buffy said:
Ooh, Texas! While I went away to read and nap, things moved.
I know, I know, I know…..OMFG!!! Texas has turned blue!!!
dv said:
Spiny Norman said:
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And a suitable response to that is …
Did he end up building that bunker?
Not sure which person you are referring to, but the answer is the same – NFI sorry.

kii said:
buffy said:
Ooh, Texas! While I went away to read and nap, things moved.
I know, I know, I know…..OMFG!!! Texas has turned blue!!!

Two of the independent senate candidates I mentioned are in front. Both of these are people the Dems can work with.
I think we can call Nebraska. Achilles is in front but too early to say whether heel win in Idaho.


Every Idaho senator elected since 1979 has been Republican so this would be quite noteworthy.
dv said:
The fake news on TV will still give him the shits.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
Messed that up.HERE’S the 1:40 pm tally:
Here’s now:
Things are getting interesting:
The Dems have 50 Senate seats. One more for a majority.
And there it is, sports fans:

Spiny Norman said:
dv said:
Spiny Norman said:
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And a suitable response to that is …
Did he end up building that bunker?
Not sure which person you are referring to, but the answer is the same – NFI sorry.
I was referring to Trump’s bunker plans.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-reveals-new-details-bunker-like-ballroom-with-drone-base-2026-05-19/
It was in any case a rhetorical question.
Tau.Neutrino said:
dv said:
The fake news on TV will still give him the shits.
So, another shit day for him.

kii said:
buffy said:
Ooh, Texas! While I went away to read and nap, things moved.
I know, I know, I know…..OMFG!!! Texas has turned blue!!!
This one made me the happiest :)))
ruby said:
Yeah, they can finally disconnect him from the radio control mechanisms now.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:Things are getting interesting:
The Dems have 50 Senate seats. One more for a majority.
And there it is, sports fans:
Looking good for a double barrel shoot.
I think one of the problems for them …
It’s not just that he’s doing a terrible job. It’s that his colleagues cannot get him to even pretend like he gives a shit.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/19zEfBjwSD/

I haven’t been this excited since i watched Chris Brady’s cigarette burn down to his fingers when he fell asleep.
kii said:
Better git a lawyer, Don.
Better git a r-e-e-e-e-a-l good one.
Not like those ambulance chasers you usually have.
I think I might cry……
so… not too bad for an election that was never going to happen
Woodie said:
I think I might cry……
Joyfully?
diddly-squat said:
so… not too bad for an election that was never going to happen
As Al Gore said, “never discount America”, when asked about Trump.
oNE OF THE THINGS THAT DISGUSTED ME ABOUT gREG aBBOTT WAS WHEN HE MADE IT HARDER FOR KIDS WITH DISABILITIES TO GET SUPPORT WHILE HE IS IN A FUCKING WHEELCHAIR AND HAS EVERYTHING HE NEEDS TO SUPPORT HIM.
sORRY CAPS LOCK, BUT i CAN’T BE BOTHERED TO RETYPE THAT.
diddly-squat said:
so… not too bad for an election that was never going to happen
STFU diddles, gawd you are an annoying little man.
Almost 60% of the vote counted in Maine and Jackson {D} is up over Collins {R} by 3 points
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:Things are getting interesting:
The Dems have 50 Senate seats. One more for a majority.
And there it is, sports fans:


captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:Abbott has conceded in Texas
Blimey, Tony just can’t accept that he no longer has a political career anywhere, can he?
Hahahahahaha!
:)
dv said:
:)
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:The Dems have 50 Senate seats. One more for a majority.
And there it is, sports fans:
It proceeds apace:

captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:Things are getting interesting:
The Dems have 50 Senate seats. One more for a majority.
And there it is, sports fans:
Blows steam locomotive whistle.
ruby said:
LOLz
:)
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:And there it is, sports fans:
It proceeds apace:
Good, good.

captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:And there it is, sports fans:
It proceeds apace:
Now the Dems have 52 in the Senate. This means tied votes unlikely, rendering JD Vance’s ‘deciding vote’ unnecessary.

diddly-squat said:
so… not too bad for an election that was never going to happen
Nobody said that. But go ahead and think you’re smart.
The D’s win.
Excellent result.
Trumps changing his nappy.
fsm said:
:)
ChrispenEvan said:
diddly-squat said:so… not too bad for an election that was never going to happen
Nobody said that. But go ahead and think you’re smart.
There’s a lot of time between now and the swearing-in in January.
I wonder what the fascists might do.
Michael V said:
ChrispenEvan said:
diddly-squat said:so… not too bad for an election that was never going to happen
Nobody said that. But go ahead and think you’re smart.
There’s a lot of time between now and the swearing-in in January.
I wonder what the fascists might do.
That’s what really concerns me. The votes are in and clear, but it’s far from safe yet.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
ChrispenEvan said:Nobody said that. But go ahead and think you’re smart.
There’s a lot of time between now and the swearing-in in January.
I wonder what the fascists might do.
That’s what really concerns me. The votes are in and clear, but it’s far from safe yet.
Agreed.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
ChrispenEvan said:Nobody said that. But go ahead and think you’re smart.
There’s a lot of time between now and the swearing-in in January.
I wonder what the fascists might do.
That’s what really concerns me. The votes are in and clear, but it’s far from safe yet.
The narcissistic collapse is going to be a worry. He could kill us all.
kii said:
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:There’s a lot of time between now and the swearing-in in January.
I wonder what the fascists might do.
That’s what really concerns me. The votes are in and clear, but it’s far from safe yet.
The narcissistic collapse is going to be a worry. He could kill us all.
His too busy shitting his pants.
Michael V said:
ChrispenEvan said:
diddly-squat said:so… not too bad for an election that was never going to happen
Nobody said that. But go ahead and think you’re smart.
There’s a lot of time between now and the swearing-in in January.
I wonder what the fascists might do.
I suggest that they’ll be looting for all they’re worth between now and then.
They’ll probably see it as their last chance to nick everything in sight, empty out whatever accounts they think they can get away with, and make of with anything that’s worth a dollar.
Also, with Thanksgiving and Xmas coming up, no-one expected them to work anyway, so it’ll be a good time to sort out a comfy landing pad for next year with their corporate pals.

F’ken what??
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
It proceeds apace:
Now the Dems have 52 in the Senate. This means tied votes unlikely, rendering JD Vance’s ‘deciding vote’ unnecessary.
OK, they need 19 out of the remaining 115 to have a House majority. 20 would be better.

How do you like that?
It went from 200 to 201 while i was dragging the image across to the post.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
I think I might cry……
Joyfully?
Ecstatically.
Spiny Norman said:
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F’ken what??
Not a good idea Idaho.

Meanwhile on Truth Social.
It’s Entnazifizierung time!
Been some pretty positive election results lately from my perspective in Brazil, Serbia, Israel and now TUSOA. Hopefully it will roll through in NZ, and then the big one, Cabo Verde.
ChrispenEvan said:
diddly-squat said:so… not too bad for an election that was never going to happen
Nobody said that. But go ahead and think you’re smart.
I guess people can check the receipts themselves if they want

Michael V said:
ChrispenEvan said:
diddly-squat said:so… not too bad for an election that was never going to happen
Nobody said that. But go ahead and think you’re smart.
There’s a lot of time between now and the swearing-in in January.
I wonder what the fascists might do.
No doubt there will be any number of challenges, but courts are very hesitant to overturn the results of elections.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
ChrispenEvan said:Nobody said that. But go ahead and think you’re smart.
There’s a lot of time between now and the swearing-in in January.
I wonder what the fascists might do.
I suggest that they’ll be looting for all they’re worth between now and then.
They’ll probably see it as their last chance to nick everything in sight, empty out whatever accounts they think they can get away with, and make of with anything that’s worth a dollar.
Also, with Thanksgiving and Xmas coming up, no-one expected them to work anyway, so it’ll be a good time to sort out a comfy landing pad for next year with their corporate pals.
remember the show where punters had 5 min to go into a supermarket and fill their shopping trollies with what ever they could – that’s what the next two years will be.
dv said:
Been some pretty positive election results lately from my perspective in Brazil, Serbia, Israel and now TUSOA. Hopefully it will roll through in NZ, and then the big one, Cabo Verde.
It’s funny how democracy works
It’s not too bad a result but really, given the atrocious performance and nature of the Republicans, they should have been wiped out.
Meanwhile, Petola is up by 12 points in Alaska (only a quarter of the votes have been counted though)
dv said:
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Meanwhile on Truth Social.
And so, the dog-whistling starts. Will it be effective?
kii said:
:)
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:
ChrispenEvan said:Nobody said that. But go ahead and think you’re smart.
There’s a lot of time between now and the swearing-in in January.
I wonder what the fascists might do.
No doubt there will be any number of challenges, but courts are very hesitant to overturn the results of elections.
So the only option now for the fascists is the court system?
Fantastic.
That is so reassuring.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:It proceeds apace:
Now the Dems have 52 in the Senate. This means tied votes unlikely, rendering JD Vance’s ‘deciding vote’ unnecessary.
OK, they need 19 out of the remaining 115 to have a House majority. 20 would be better.
So near now.
9, 10 more, and it’s done.

Women have crushed it. Black, Indigenous, Hispanic and White women – across the board. Fuck the fucking patriarchy.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:Now the Dems have 52 in the Senate. This means tied votes unlikely, rendering JD Vance’s ‘deciding vote’ unnecessary.
OK, they need 19 out of the remaining 115 to have a House majority. 20 would be better.
So near now.
9, 10 more, and it’s done.
6, 7 more…

Bubblecar said:
It’s not too bad a result but really, given the atrocious performance and nature of the Republicans, they should have been wiped out.
LOL wait until you hear how well Australian Labor Communism are doing against Ein Reich

Oh shit…
Michael V said:
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:There’s a lot of time between now and the swearing-in in January.
I wonder what the fascists might do.
No doubt there will be any number of challenges, but courts are very hesitant to overturn the results of elections.
So the only option now for the fascists is the court system?
Fantastic.
That is so reassuring.
I mean, what alternative would you propose or prefer?
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
It proceeds apace:
Now the Dems have 52 in the Senate. This means tied votes unlikely, rendering JD Vance’s ‘deciding vote’ unnecessary.
well with this much domination the good news is that the infighting can begin
dv said:
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Meanwhile on Truth Social.
‘Veto’.
What a delusional fuckwit.
He probably imagines that, as President, he can just say, nope, don’t like that.
dv said:
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Oh shit…
That is actually incredible
Walter Masterson: Dr Abdul El Sayed won his Senate race. We are sending an epidemiologist to the Senate. Fuck you, RFKJr.
2, preferably 3, more needed:

219. A majority

captain_spalding said:
219. A majority
Lovely
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Meanwhile on Truth Social.
‘Veto’.
What a delusional fuckwit.
He probably imagines that, as President, he can just say, nope, don’t like that.
he can though
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
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Oh shit…
That is actually incredible
There hasn’t been a D senator for Mississippi since the Reagan era.
But I’ll calibrate my enthusiasm, it’s a 28 vote lead…
captain_spalding said:
219. A majority
I feel better now.
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Meanwhile on Truth Social.
‘Veto’.
What a delusional fuckwit.
He probably imagines that, as President, he can just say, nope, don’t like that.
he can though
100% – the POTUS has veto power over every single piece of legislation that passes through congress.
Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:
219. A majority
I feel better now.
diddly-squat said:
SCIENCE said:captain_spalding said:
‘Veto’.
What a delusional fuckwit.
He probably imagines that, as President, he can just say, nope, don’t like that.
he can though
100% – the POTUS has veto power over every single piece of legislation that passes through congress.
And also over a lot of appointments.
The veto can overridden by 2/3 majorities in House and Senate.

Adding this to my standard set of reaction memes
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Meanwhile on Truth Social.
‘Veto’.
What a delusional fuckwit.
He probably imagines that, as President, he can just say, nope, don’t like that.
he can though
No. A U.S. president has no legal authority to veto, reject, or overturn midterm election results. Election administration is a state responsibility, and the Constitution grants the president no power over the certification of congressional elections.
Veto Power Scope: The presidential veto applies only to legislation passed by Congress, not to election outcomes. Trump’s “Mr. Veto” comments refer to his intention to block bills passed by a Democratic-controlled Congress, not to invalidate the vote count.
Legal Limits: Legal experts and organizations like the Brennan Center for Justice confirm that even a national emergency declaration does not grant the president control over elections. Attempts to “nationalize” or seize voting processes are considered illegal and have been blocked by courts.
Certification Process: Winners certified by state officials take office regardless of presidential acknowledgment. While the president can dispute results politically or through lawsuits (e.g., the DOJ’s preemptive suit in Alaska), such actions are expected to fail and do not change the legal outcome.
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
SCIENCE said:he can though
100% – the POTUS has veto power over every single piece of legislation that passes through congress.
And also over a lot of appointments.
The veto can overridden by 2/3 majorities in House and Senate.
Which it is unlikely they will have..
Personally I think they shoukd be passing legislation left right and centre and forcing him to veto it so he looks like even more of an obstructionist.
dv said:
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Oh shit…
That’s close.
captain_spalding said:
219. A majority
220. Better.
They can appoint a Speaker, and still have a majority on the floor.

captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:captain_spalding said:
‘Veto’.
What a delusional fuckwit.
He probably imagines that, as President, he can just say, nope, don’t like that.
he can though
No. A U.S. president has no legal authority to veto, reject, or overturn midterm election results. Election administration is a state responsibility, and the Constitution grants the president no power over the certification of congressional elections.
Veto Power Scope: The presidential veto applies only to legislation passed by Congress, not to election outcomes. Trump’s “Mr. Veto” comments refer to his intention to block bills passed by a Democratic-controlled Congress, not to invalidate the vote count.
Legal Limits: Legal experts and organizations like the Brennan Center for Justice confirm that even a national emergency declaration does not grant the president control over elections. Attempts to “nationalize” or seize voting processes are considered illegal and have been blocked by courts.
Certification Process: Winners certified by state officials take office regardless of presidential acknowledgment. While the president can dispute results politically or through lawsuits (e.g., the DOJ’s preemptive suit in Alaska), such actions are expected to fail and do not change the legal outcome.
The power of veto that the hat referees to is one of veto over legislation. He has recently said in an interview that this is what he would do should the Dems with Congress.
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:
diddly-squat said:No doubt there will be any number of challenges, but courts are very hesitant to overturn the results of elections.
So the only option now for the fascists is the court system?
Fantastic.
That is so reassuring.
I mean, what alternative would you propose or prefer?
I have vague memories of one January 6th…
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
diddly-squat said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Meanwhile on Truth Social.
‘Veto’.
What a delusional fuckwit.
He probably imagines that, as President, he can just say, nope, don’t like that.
he can though
100% – the POTUS has veto power over every single piece of legislation that passes through congress.
he can though
No. A U.S. president has no legal authority to veto, reject, or overturn midterm election results. Election administration is a state responsibility, and the Constitution grants the president no power over the certification of congressional elections.
Veto Power Scope: The presidential veto applies only to legislation passed by Congress, not to election outcomes. Trump’s “Mr. Veto” comments refer to his intention to block bills passed by a Democratic-controlled Congress, not to invalidate the vote count.
Legal Limits: Legal experts and organizations like the Brennan Center for Justice confirm that even a national emergency declaration does not grant the president control over elections. Attempts to “nationalize” or seize voting processes are considered illegal and have been blocked by courts.
Certification Process: Winners certified by state officials take office regardless of presidential acknowledgment. While the president can dispute results politically or through lawsuits (e.g., the DOJ’s preemptive suit in Alaska), such actions are expected to fail and do not change the legal outcome.
sorry we thought you were referring to what diddly-squat clarified
unable to change the result of an election sure
our interpretation was guided by for example the below

captain_spalding said:
219. A majority
Good. Very good.
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
100% – the POTUS has veto power over every single piece of legislation that passes through congress.
And also over a lot of appointments.
The veto can overridden by 2/3 majorities in House and Senate.
Which it is unlikely they will have..
Personally I think they shoukd be passing legislation left right and centre and forcing him to veto it so he looks like even more of an obstructionist.
^
Michael V said:
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:So the only option now for the fascists is the court system?
Fantastic.
That is so reassuring.
I mean, what alternative would you propose or prefer?
I have vague memories of one January 6th…
I mean, what alternative form of protection against the facists would you prefer?

diddly-squat said:
SCIENCE said:captain_spalding said:
‘Veto’.
What a delusional fuckwit.
He probably imagines that, as President, he can just say, nope, don’t like that.
he can though
100% – the POTUS has veto power over every single piece of legislation that passes through congress.
Yeah, he veto every bill that they pass to him.
But, there’s rules:
Key constraints include:
No Line-Item Veto: The President must accept or reject a bill in its entirety; they cannot strike specific provisions. The Supreme Court ruled the line-item veto unconstitutional in Clinton v. City of New York (1998).
Time Limits: The President has 10 days (excluding Sundays) to act on a bill. If Congress is in session and the President takes no action, the bill automatically becomes law.
Pocket Veto Restrictions: A “pocket veto” (where the bill dies due to inaction while Congress is adjourned) is absolute and cannot be overridden, but its use is limited to periods of final adjournment (sine die). Courts have ruled that Presidents cannot use pocket vetoes during short intra-session recesses if Congress has appointed an officer to receive veto messages.
Written Objections: For a regular veto, the President must return the bill to the originating chamber with a written memorandum of disapproval explaining the objections.
Non-Legislative Limits: The veto power applies only to congressional legislation; it cannot be used against constitutional amendments, impeachment proceedings, or federal judicial actions.
The written explanations from Trump’s office will be most interesting.
If he vetos everything, all the time, he will be doing the next GOP Presidential candidate no favours.
The Dems will have a legitimate case to say we tried to give you health care, we tried to give you welfare, we tried to restore justice, we tired to rein in ICE etc, but the Republican President said ‘no’ every time. Do you trust a new Republican President to do better for you?
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
diddly-squat said:100% – the POTUS has veto power over every single piece of legislation that passes through congress.
And also over a lot of appointments.
The veto can overridden by 2/3 majorities in House and Senate.
Which it is unlikely they will have..
Personally I think they shoukd be passing legislation left right and centre and forcing him to veto it so he looks like even more of an obstructionist.
Good idea.
So wher does all this leave that Mike Johnson fellow? Someone had better tell him of the results, so that he can’t claim he hasn’t heard about it…
Neophyte said:
So wher does all this leave that Mike Johnson fellow? Someone had better tell him of the results, so that he can’t claim he hasn’t heard about it…
LOL.
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:
SCIENCE said:he can though
100% – the POTUS has veto power over every single piece of legislation that passes through congress.
Yeah, he veto every bill that they pass to him.
But, there’s rules:
Key constraints include:
No Line-Item Veto: The President must accept or reject a bill in its entirety; they cannot strike specific provisions. The Supreme Court ruled the line-item veto unconstitutional in Clinton v. City of New York (1998).
Time Limits: The President has 10 days (excluding Sundays) to act on a bill. If Congress is in session and the President takes no action, the bill automatically becomes law.
Pocket Veto Restrictions: A “pocket veto” (where the bill dies due to inaction while Congress is adjourned) is absolute and cannot be overridden, but its use is limited to periods of final adjournment (sine die). Courts have ruled that Presidents cannot use pocket vetoes during short intra-session recesses if Congress has appointed an officer to receive veto messages.
Written Objections: For a regular veto, the President must return the bill to the originating chamber with a written memorandum of disapproval explaining the objections.
Non-Legislative Limits: The veto power applies only to congressional legislation; it cannot be used against constitutional amendments, impeachment proceedings, or federal judicial actions.
The written explanations from Trump’s office will be most interesting.
If he vetos everything, all the time, he will be doing the next GOP Presidential candidate no favours.
The Dems will have a legitimate case to say we tried to give you health care, we tried to give you welfare, we tried to restore justice, we tired to rein in ICE etc, but the Republican President said ‘no’ every time. Do you trust a new Republican President to do better for you?
Exactly.. keep trump in the White House and force him to do his job. Meanwhile the Dems will have control of virtually every major oversight committee in Congress and will be able to compel people to testify in their investigations.
The worst thing they could do would be to try and impeach Trump because it would just motivate calls of Democratic Lawfare.
The Dems need to be tactical in their approach to the next two years if they really want to seize the advantage.
Neophyte said:
So wher does all this leave that Mike Johnson fellow? Someone had better tell him of the results, so that he can’t claim he hasn’t heard about it…
“Nobody tells me nuffink!”
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:
diddly-squat said:I mean, what alternative would you propose or prefer?
I have vague memories of one January 6th…
I mean, what alternative form of protection against the facists would you prefer?
I have no idea how to protect the US against the fascists, considering likely all the fascists will be bearing arms, as protected by their constitution.
kii said:
Good, good.
diddly-squat said:
The worst thing they could do would be to try and impeach Trump because it would just motivate calls of Democratic Lawfare.
The Dems need to be tactical in their approach to the next two years if they really want to seize the advantage.
The other thing is that they got their Blue Wave.
The voters have done their part.
Now it’s up to the Dems to show that they deserve it.
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:The worst thing they could do would be to try and impeach Trump because it would just motivate calls of Democratic Lawfare.
The Dems need to be tactical in their approach to the next two years if they really want to seize the advantage.
The other thing is that they got their Blue Wave.
The voters have done their part.
Now it’s up to the Dems to show that they deserve it.
To paraphrase Winston Churchill they’ve won the war, now they have to win the peace

Neophyte said:
To paraphrase Winston Churchill they’ve won the war, now they have to win the peace
Which they did fairly well, after WW2, with the Marshall Plan and all.
Managed to keep the French from going berserk with revenge.
No Marshall Plan for Japan, but they didn’t make it too tough for the Japanese, either.
Michael V said:
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:I have vague memories of one January 6th…
I mean, what alternative form of protection against the facists would you prefer?
I have no idea how to protect the US against the fascists, considering likely all the fascists will be bearing arms, as protected by their constitution.
My point is that the system os designed with fail safes to do this very thing.. co-equal branches of government, an independent judiciary, a decentralised electoral process… those are the protections.
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
diddly-squat said:100% – the POTUS has veto power over every single piece of legislation that passes through congress.
And also over a lot of appointments.
The veto can overridden by 2/3 majorities in House and Senate.
Which it is unlikely they will have..
Personally I think they shoukd be passing legislation left right and centre and forcing him to veto it so he looks like even more of an obstructionist.
Without wanting to count me chickins…
rn it could be that the Rs lose 9 senate seats. ( The 7 already declared, plus Alaska, and jinx-Gods-look-away Mississippi. )
10 if Dan Osborn gets over in Nebraska (though he appears to be fading in late counting).
This would be their worst day at the office for a long time. There must be surely be some Republicans thinking that, long term, they would be better off losing the orange ballast.
They also appear on track to lose half a dozen governors and a similar number of state legislatures.

Still in severe delusion land.
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:And also over a lot of appointments.
The veto can overridden by 2/3 majorities in House and Senate.
Which it is unlikely they will have..
Personally I think they shoukd be passing legislation left right and centre and forcing him to veto it so he looks like even more of an obstructionist.
Without wanting to count me chickins…
rn it could be that the Rs lose 9 senate seats. ( The 7 already declared, plus Alaska, and jinx-Gods-look-away Mississippi. )
10 if Dan Osborn gets over in Nebraska (though he appears to be fading in late counting).
This would be their worst day at the office for a long time. There must be surely be some Republicans thinking that, long term, they would be better off losing the orange ballast.
They also appear on track to lose half a dozen governors and a similar number of state legislatures.
I think MAGA politics will remain as long as Trump is around and that’s a problem for the GOP because MAGA loyalists are in control of all the federal and many of state party branches.
NGL, Kinda looking forward to the GOP Primaries though…
Spiny Norman said:
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Still in severe delusion land.
All of the pixies agree with him.
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:And also over a lot of appointments.
The veto can overridden by 2/3 majorities in House and Senate.
Which it is unlikely they will have..
Personally I think they shoukd be passing legislation left right and centre and forcing him to veto it so he looks like even more of an obstructionist.
Without wanting to count me chickins…
rn it could be that the Rs lose 9 senate seats. ( The 7 already declared, plus Alaska, and jinx-Gods-look-away Mississippi. )
10 if Dan Osborn gets over in Nebraska (though he appears to be fading in late counting).
This would be their worst day at the office for a long time. There must be surely be some Republicans thinking that, long term, they would be better off losing the orange ballast.
They also appear on track to lose half a dozen governors and a similar number of state legislatures.
I wonder if Trump is feeling diminished and maybe too old, like Peter Dutton ?
Spiny Norman said:
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Still in severe delusion land.
Cut and pasted from Straightdope…
“I’ve been flipping back and forth to Fox News, because it’s just too delicious in moments like this.
Karolyn Leavitt was on, looking very much like Elizabeth Holmes ( I don’t know if it was make-up, weigh loss or if she had work done, but she looked different. She managed to pivot to Trump’s greatness and “accomplishments” every time she opened her mouth.
As the extent of the losses is becoming apparent, they are getting…well, scared. They keep talking about how the people have spoken and they very much want to reach across the aisle and work together, and they hope the Democrats will not waste time with investigations and impeachments, we should forget the past and work together to deliver to the American people.
Trump even called in, I wish they showed the faces of the people he was talking too, because he was sundowning big time, he was asked about the election results and he responded talking about all the oil that was flowing in through the Strait of Hormuz, so much oil, more oil than anyone has ever seen, did you know we conquered Venezuela in 48 minutes, that al, it took and there’s so much oil flowing in from there and Greenland, we have Greenland now, it’s ours and no one ever reports on it but we have Greenland and we didn’t have to go to war we could have but we made a deal now we have Greenland and we conquered Venezuela in 48 minutes and there’s so much oil flowing in…. (It sounds like someone convinced him that we own Greenland, probably to avoid going to war to do it.)
He answered every question with a similar unrelated ramble, but at the end someone finally got him to say that he congratulated the Democrats and wanted to work with them and wouldn’t contest the results (which I’ll take as good news, but it’s Trump, who knows what he’ll say tomorrow)
We did it. We outvoted the inherently rigged system, we outvoted all the cheats, all their stupid gerrymanders backfired and we won by such an overwhelming margin that they can’t call fraud. We did it.
Now they are scared of the impeachments and investigations and having their criminality exposed, and they are going to start being all fake nice and wanting to work together. I hope no one falls for it.”
https://www.democracynow.org/2026/11/3/headlines/elon_musk_spent_record_shattering_474_million_on_midterm_elections
Elon Musk Spent Record-Shattering $474 Million on Midterm Elections
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Damn, already got cause to use this image

The Dems are winning in states they haven’t won since they were the party of white supremacy.
diddly-squat said:
The Dems are winning in states they haven’t won since they were the party of white supremacy.
Pointed but accurate.
dv said:
Elon Musk Spent Record-Shattering $474 Million on Midterm Elections
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Damn, already got cause to use this image
so less than 0.1% of his, damn, that’s gotta hurt so much
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
The Dems are winning in states they haven’t won since they were the party of white supremacy.
Pointed but accurate.
uh so the age of white supremacy is well and truly back
captain_spalding said:
:)

diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:
diddly-squat said:I mean, what alternative form of protection against the facists would you prefer?
I have no idea how to protect the US against the fascists, considering likely all the fascists will be bearing arms, as protected by their constitution.
My point is that the system os designed with fail safes to do this very thing.. co-equal branches of government, an independent judiciary, a decentralised electoral process… those are the protections.
My point is that the fascists still have enough time to organise themselves and their God-given guns.
Michael V said:
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:
I have no idea how to protect the US against the fascists, considering likely all the fascists will be bearing arms, as protected by their constitution.
My point is that the system os designed with fail safes to do this very thing.. co-equal branches of government, an independent judiciary, a decentralised electoral process… those are the protections.
My point is that the fascists still have enough time to organise themselves and their God-given guns.
and our point is that politically speaking we’re probably about

here
(with thanks to https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2445150/ The Rev Dodgson of course)
dv said:
https://www.democracynow.org/2026/11/3/headlines/elon_musk_spent_record_shattering_474_million_on_midterm_electionsElon Musk Spent Record-Shattering $474 Million on Midterm Elections
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Damn, already got cause to use this image
:)
dv said:
:)
dv said:
https://www.democracynow.org/2026/11/3/headlines/elon_musk_spent_record_shattering_474_million_on_midterm_electionsElon Musk Spent Record-Shattering $474 Million on Midterm Elections
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Damn, already got cause to use this image
:)
ms spock said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Elon Musk Spent Record-Shattering $474 Million on Midterm Elections
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Damn, already got cause to use this image
so less than 0.1% of his, damn, that’s gotta hurt so much
:)
:)
OK fine we’ll conform, yes, almost, we’ll say this would be (relatively) good news if the spend was $50000000000 and not $500000000 id est 100 times as much and near same as the price of twitter back in the day.
I’m catching up. Two things. I haven’t seen any information about turnout…was it unusually high? Also…the Epstein stuff is not legislation…so it can all come out into the light now.
As was pointed out elsewhere, there’s probably a swag of Fox personalities cursing that they won’t now get that government position they were angling for.

Tau.Neutrino said:
F’real?
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
F’real?
Probably not.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18roXr78S4/
Nigel says
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18roXr78S4/Nigel says
private group
ChrispenEvan said:
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18roXr78S4/Nigel says
private group
https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3mzhslepdek2u
Howbout
dv said:
ChrispenEvan said:
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18roXr78S4/Nigel says
private group
https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3mzhslepdek2u
Howbout
certainly a big surprise, just not the one he would have wanted.
Ta.
dv said:
ChrispenEvan said:
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18roXr78S4/Nigel says
private group
https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3mzhslepdek2u
Howbout
Giggle.

I cannot vouch for the veracity of this:

Mary Peltola has fallen behind about 0.8% in the senat race in Alaska, with 70% counted. This might be one that got away.
dv said:
Mary Peltola has fallen behind about 0.8% in the senat race in Alaska, with 70% counted. This might be one that got away.
sings
whoa whoa, the one that got away
party_pants said:
dv said:
Mary Peltola has fallen behind about 0.8% in the senat race in Alaska, with 70% counted. This might be one that got away.
sings
whoa whoa, the one that got away
Some sources are saying that the uncounted votes are likely to break for Peltola. Note that Alaska uses preference voting so it could be interesting.
The news outlets are calling the Nebraska senate slot for the Republicans. Ah well maybe next time.
Colom (d) ‘s lead in the senate race in Mississippi has blown out to a whopping 43 votes with 96% counted. Cruising home.
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
Mary Peltola has fallen behind about 0.8% in the senat race in Alaska, with 70% counted. This might be one that got away.
sings
whoa whoa, the one that got away
Some sources are saying that the uncounted votes are likely to break for Peltola. Note that Alaska uses preference voting so it could be interesting.
The race will almost certainly come down to preferences.
diddly-squat said:
The Dems are winning in states they haven’t won since they were the party of white supremacy.
I assume you mean house districts: the Solid South was sending Democrat senators to Washington until the conservative revolution of 1994.


I heard ‘blunammi’ mentioned on the news but I think I prefer ‘blukakke’…
Witty Rejoinder said:
I heard ‘blunammi’ mentioned on the news but I think I prefer ‘blukakke’…
‘Blurrhea’.
Gives Trump the shits.
Extra wonderful that Nancy Mace lost her bid for the governorship.
From Occupy Democrats:

BREAKING: SWEET REVENGE! The Navy Admiral who Pete Hegseth fired DEFEATS her MAGA opponent to win a House seat in South Carolina — cementing the blue tsunami with a poetic flourish!
This is just too beautiful…
Democrat Nancy Lacore, a 35-year Navy veteran who rose through the ranks from helicopter pilot to become Chief of Navy Reserve, was fired in August of 2025 amid Hegseth’s purging of high-ranking women in the military. While no official reason was given, the deeply misogynistic Hegseth has not been coy about his caveman belief that only testosterone-injecting men should serve.
Lacore has now defeated Republican Jenny Costa Honeycutt to seize a seat that was formerly held by MAGA lunatic Nancy Mace who launched a failed bid for the governor’s mansion this year.
Lacore has not been shy about criticizing Hegseth’s disastrous mismanagement of the Defense Department, particularly his failed Iran War.
“Pete Hegseth is the most unqualified Secretary of Defense that we have ever had, and he is doing significant damage to our military that it will really take decades to undo,” she said, adding that he “needs to go.”
The most beautiful irony here? Congresswoman Lacore could soon be voting with the rest of the Democratic majority in the House to impeach Pete Hegseth. We have subpoena power starting in January, so we’ll be able to uncover all of the gross negligence and rampant criminality that he’s overseen.
Ain’t karma grand?
kii said:
Extra wonderful that Nancy Mace lost her bid for the governorship.From Occupy Democrats:
BREAKING: SWEET REVENGE! The Navy Admiral who Pete Hegseth fired DEFEATS her MAGA opponent to win a House seat in South Carolina — cementing the blue tsunami with a poetic flourish!
This is just too beautiful…
Democrat Nancy Lacore, a 35-year Navy veteran who rose through the ranks from helicopter pilot to become Chief of Navy Reserve, was fired in August of 2025 amid Hegseth’s purging of high-ranking women in the military. While no official reason was given, the deeply misogynistic Hegseth has not been coy about his caveman belief that only testosterone-injecting men should serve.
Lacore has now defeated Republican Jenny Costa Honeycutt to seize a seat that was formerly held by MAGA lunatic Nancy Mace who launched a failed bid for the governor’s mansion this year.
Lacore has not been shy about criticizing Hegseth’s disastrous mismanagement of the Defense Department, particularly his failed Iran War.
“Pete Hegseth is the most unqualified Secretary of Defense that we have ever had, and he is doing significant damage to our military that it will really take decades to undo,” she said, adding that he “needs to go.”
The most beautiful irony here? Congresswoman Lacore could soon be voting with the rest of the Democratic majority in the House to impeach Pete Hegseth. We have subpoena power starting in January, so we’ll be able to uncover all of the gross negligence and rampant criminality that he’s overseen.
Ain’t karma grand?
Perfect finish to a great day.
“As historic blue wave destroys Republicans, GOP is left to wonder, ‘What if?’”
The Mississippi Senate race is a great rebuttal to the people who say their vote won’t count because they are in such a deep red state.
If all the people who said their vote doesn’t count voted, their vote might count.
From Jay Kuo’s Facebook page:
“Mary Peltola had overtaken Dan Sullivan (the GOP incumbent) in the Alaska U.S. Senate race. I feel pretty good about her chances, given where the remaining votes are largely left to be counted: in the Anchorage, Fairbanks and Juneau urban areas.”

dv said:
The Mississippi Senate race is a great rebuttal to the people who say their vote won’t count because they are in such a deep red state.If all the people who said their vote doesn’t count voted, their vote might count.
That mindset always does my head in. I had to talk to son#2 about it when he tried it on me. He received the full history of our blue collar, shearer’s union, activists family, with no punches pulled.
Witty Rejoinder said:
I heard ‘blunammi’ mentioned on the news but I think I prefer ‘blukakke’…
Democretaceous-Tertiary Extinction Level Event
Tommy Tuberville…elected governor of Alabama.
Sheesh…
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DYFRabLGK/
El Sayed on Obama
It looks like Petola will take Alaska
National swing in the Senate and the House from 2024


Kansas has voted for a Democrat senator.
For the first since 1932.
On his page, Jeff Tiedrich asked: ‘Do you know how badly you have to fuck up to get Republicans to vote for Democrats?’
ah well glad that’s all over, and the teams can get back to playing the same old sports
US Elections: Iran Embassy In India Mocks Trump In Viral Post Amid Republican Midterm Losses
…the ending…lol

SCIENCE said:
ah well glad that’s all over, and the teams can get back to playing the same old sports
new referee though.
ChrispenEvan said:
SCIENCE said:
ah well glad that’s all over, and the teams can get back to playing the same old sports
new referee though.
¿ref
captain_spalding said:
Kansas has voted for a Democrat senator.For the first since 1932.
On his page, Jeff Tiedrich asked: ‘Do you know how badly you have to fuck up to get Republicans to vote for Democrats?’
In my mind there are two parts to this. Firstly, I think what the last few elections show us is that the electorate is probably not quite as partisan as was believed and that if pushed far enough, people will vote with their feet. Secondly, parties need to grow and adapt and actively build coalitions that are specific to geographies and that you can’t simply assume that because I won last time, I’m going to win this time.
The political pendulum in the US still feels like it’s swinging pretty wildly and that’s never a great thing because it tends to result in drastic wholesale changes in policy and strategic direction. What we probably need now is a calming and more moderate set of leaders and policies.
diddly-squat said:
captain_spalding said:
Kansas has voted for a Democrat senator.For the first since 1932.
On his page, Jeff Tiedrich asked: ‘Do you know how badly you have to fuck up to get Republicans to vote for Democrats?’
In my mind there are two parts to this. Firstly, I think what the last few elections show us is that the electorate is probably not quite as partisan as was believed and that if pushed far enough, people will vote with their feet. Secondly, parties need to grow and adapt and actively build coalitions that are specific to geographies and that you can’t simply assume that because I won last time, I’m going to win this time.
The political pendulum in the US still feels like it’s swinging pretty wildly and that’s never a great thing because it tends to result in drastic wholesale changes in policy and strategic direction. What we probably need now is a calming and more moderate set of leaders and policies.
I suggest that my ‘shits and giggles’ hypothesis about American voting also comes in here, in some small way.
2016, and there’s enough people who fall for Trump’s showy, blustering style, and for his overblown rhetoric and scapegoating, and they think, hey, yeah, let’s put this guy in the Presidency and see if he can do better than professional politicians. Especially as the Republicans controlled both houses at the time.
Turns out, he’s a bozo, and the Republicans as shit useless.
So, 2020/2021, and both Trump and the Republicans get the heave-ho.
Joe Biden and the Democrats are nice, but so ho-hum. And, the media is saying Joe is old and icky, and giving lots of space to Republican shit about immigrants, and DEI, and Transgender yadda-yadda. And Trump is howling his head off, non-stop.
Also, Americans are not yet grown-up enough to contemplate a woman President, let alone a black woman President.
So, 2024, and people think, wow, Trump is totally pissed off now, if he gets back in, he’s really going to kick arse, we’ll see some .big-time action from Washington. Let’s vote him in, get a few laffs there, right?
The Republicans are still squawking about DEI, immigration, transgender all being the fault of the Dems. Plus they hung around with Icky Old Joe. Let’s have those sensible Republican folks back.
And, they vote for Trump and the GOP, just to see what’ll happen.
What happens is that they’re all still self-serving bozos.
At last, in 2026, the penny dropped.
Scott Colom (D) in the Mississippi Senate race now has a lead over 1100. There are some 30000 votes yet to come but it does seem to be drifting his way.
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:
captain_spalding said:
Kansas has voted for a Democrat senator.For the first since 1932.
On his page, Jeff Tiedrich asked: ‘Do you know how badly you have to fuck up to get Republicans to vote for Democrats?’
In my mind there are two parts to this. Firstly, I think what the last few elections show us is that the electorate is probably not quite as partisan as was believed and that if pushed far enough, people will vote with their feet. Secondly, parties need to grow and adapt and actively build coalitions that are specific to geographies and that you can’t simply assume that because I won last time, I’m going to win this time.
The political pendulum in the US still feels like it’s swinging pretty wildly and that’s never a great thing because it tends to result in drastic wholesale changes in policy and strategic direction. What we probably need now is a calming and more moderate set of leaders and policies.
I suggest that my ‘shits and giggles’ hypothesis about American voting also comes in here, in some small way.
2016, and there’s enough people who fall for Trump’s showy, blustering style, and for his overblown rhetoric and scapegoating, and they think, hey, yeah, let’s put this guy in the Presidency and see if he can do better than professional politicians. Especially as the Republicans controlled both houses at the time.
Turns out, he’s a bozo, and the Republicans as shit useless.
So, 2020/2021, and both Trump and the Republicans get the heave-ho.
Joe Biden and the Democrats are nice, but so ho-hum. And, the media is saying Joe is old and icky, and giving lots of space to Republican shit about immigrants, and DEI, and Transgender yadda-yadda. And Trump is howling his head off, non-stop.
Also, Americans are not yet grown-up enough to contemplate a woman President, let alone a black woman President.
So, 2024, and people think, wow, Trump is totally pissed off now, if he gets back in, he’s really going to kick arse, we’ll see some .big-time action from Washington. Let’s vote him in, get a few laffs there, right?
The Republicans are still squawking about DEI, immigration, transgender all being the fault of the Dems. Plus they hung around with Icky Old Joe. Let’s have those sensible Republican folks back.
And, they vote for Trump and the GOP, just to see what’ll happen.
What happens is that they’re all still self-serving bozos.
At last, in 2026, the penny dropped.
Your summary is spot on but I’m not sure the “penny has dropped” is quite the right way to think about it.. it still feels a lot like a wildly swinging pendulum.
Another “first for a while”. Montana has a Democratic member of the House of Reps for the first time since 1997. Sam Forstag, a firefighter and union leader, replaces Ryan Zinke, a corrupt and stupid jerk who was Trump’s secretary of the interior in his first term.
According to Nate Silver, the overall swing to the Dems in the House of Reps was 15.6%, which is the second biggest swing since WW2.
It appears the Democrats have won a majority in the Texas House of Reps, which will aid the new governor. Not clear whether they will win the state Senate as well: only half the seats are up for election (they hold biennial half-senate elections for four year terms).
captain_spalding said:
kii said:
Extra wonderful that Nancy Mace lost her bid for the governorship.From Occupy Democrats:
BREAKING: SWEET REVENGE! The Navy Admiral who Pete Hegseth fired DEFEATS her MAGA opponent to win a House seat in South Carolina — cementing the blue tsunami with a poetic flourish!
This is just too beautiful…
Democrat Nancy Lacore, a 35-year Navy veteran who rose through the ranks from helicopter pilot to become Chief of Navy Reserve, was fired in August of 2025 amid Hegseth’s purging of high-ranking women in the military. While no official reason was given, the deeply misogynistic Hegseth has not been coy about his caveman belief that only testosterone-injecting men should serve.
Lacore has now defeated Republican Jenny Costa Honeycutt to seize a seat that was formerly held by MAGA lunatic Nancy Mace who launched a failed bid for the governor’s mansion this year.
Lacore has not been shy about criticizing Hegseth’s disastrous mismanagement of the Defense Department, particularly his failed Iran War.
“Pete Hegseth is the most unqualified Secretary of Defense that we have ever had, and he is doing significant damage to our military that it will really take decades to undo,” she said, adding that he “needs to go.”
The most beautiful irony here? Congresswoman Lacore could soon be voting with the rest of the Democratic majority in the House to impeach Pete Hegseth. We have subpoena power starting in January, so we’ll be able to uncover all of the gross negligence and rampant criminality that he’s overseen.
Ain’t karma grand?
Perfect finish to a great day.
:)
dv said:
It appears the Democrats have won a majority in the Texas House of Reps, which will aid the new governor. Not clear whether they will win the state Senate as well: only half the seats are up for election (they hold biennial half-senate elections for four year terms).
What’s kinda ironic is that its the “low tax” business environment that was set up by the state GOP in Texas has been fundamental to the change in demographics of the state (that being younger, more economically mobile, more highly educated and more ethnically varied) that has result in this political shift
Some great things coming out of the USA about the midterms.
This along with the Nancy Mace loss is sweet, sweet news. Especially the re-election of Sarah McBride who was the target of so much of Mace’s anger.


diddly-squat said:
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:In my mind there are two parts to this. Firstly, I think what the last few elections show us is that the electorate is probably not quite as partisan as was believed and that if pushed far enough, people will vote with their feet. Secondly, parties need to grow and adapt and actively build coalitions that are specific to geographies and that you can’t simply assume that because I won last time, I’m going to win this time.
The political pendulum in the US still feels like it’s swinging pretty wildly and that’s never a great thing because it tends to result in drastic wholesale changes in policy and strategic direction. What we probably need now is a calming and more moderate set of leaders and policies.
I suggest that my ‘shits and giggles’ hypothesis about American voting also comes in here, in some small way.
2016, and there’s enough people who fall for Trump’s showy, blustering style, and for his overblown rhetoric and scapegoating, and they think, hey, yeah, let’s put this guy in the Presidency and see if he can do better than professional politicians. Especially as the Republicans controlled both houses at the time.
Turns out, he’s a bozo, and the Republicans as shit useless.
So, 2020/2021, and both Trump and the Republicans get the heave-ho.
Joe Biden and the Democrats are nice, but so ho-hum. And, the media is saying Joe is old and icky, and giving lots of space to Republican shit about immigrants, and DEI, and Transgender yadda-yadda. And Trump is howling his head off, non-stop.
Also, Americans are not yet grown-up enough to contemplate a woman President, let alone a black woman President.
So, 2024, and people think, wow, Trump is totally pissed off now, if he gets back in, he’s really going to kick arse, we’ll see some .big-time action from Washington. Let’s vote him in, get a few laffs there, right?
The Republicans are still squawking about DEI, immigration, transgender all being the fault of the Dems. Plus they hung around with Icky Old Joe. Let’s have those sensible Republican folks back.
And, they vote for Trump and the GOP, just to see what’ll happen.
What happens is that they’re all still self-serving bozos.
At last, in 2026, the penny dropped.
Your summary is spot on but I’m not sure the “penny has dropped” is quite the right way to think about it.. it still feels a lot like a wildly swinging pendulum.
I am concerned that if the Corporate Democrats fail to act now, then 2028 will potentially see the pendulum swing towards the first Republican Nazi President in America.
ms spock said:
diddly-squat said:
captain_spalding said:I suggest that my ‘shits and giggles’ hypothesis about American voting also comes in here, in some small way.
2016, and there’s enough people who fall for Trump’s showy, blustering style, and for his overblown rhetoric and scapegoating, and they think, hey, yeah, let’s put this guy in the Presidency and see if he can do better than professional politicians. Especially as the Republicans controlled both houses at the time.
Turns out, he’s a bozo, and the Republicans as shit useless.
So, 2020/2021, and both Trump and the Republicans get the heave-ho.
Joe Biden and the Democrats are nice, but so ho-hum. And, the media is saying Joe is old and icky, and giving lots of space to Republican shit about immigrants, and DEI, and Transgender yadda-yadda. And Trump is howling his head off, non-stop.
Also, Americans are not yet grown-up enough to contemplate a woman President, let alone a black woman President.
So, 2024, and people think, wow, Trump is totally pissed off now, if he gets back in, he’s really going to kick arse, we’ll see some .big-time action from Washington. Let’s vote him in, get a few laffs there, right?
The Republicans are still squawking about DEI, immigration, transgender all being the fault of the Dems. Plus they hung around with Icky Old Joe. Let’s have those sensible Republican folks back.
And, they vote for Trump and the GOP, just to see what’ll happen.
What happens is that they’re all still self-serving bozos.
At last, in 2026, the penny dropped.
Your summary is spot on but I’m not sure the “penny has dropped” is quite the right way to think about it.. it still feels a lot like a wildly swinging pendulum.
I am concerned that if the Corporate Democrats fail to act now, then 2028 will potentially see the pendulum swing towards the first Republican Nazi President in America.
I think both sides will probably look to calm the farm somewhat, and whomever wins the 2028 Republican primary will do so under the guise of a significantly more moderate platform
diddly-squat said:
ms spock said:
diddly-squat said:Your summary is spot on but I’m not sure the “penny has dropped” is quite the right way to think about it.. it still feels a lot like a wildly swinging pendulum.
I am concerned that if the Corporate Democrats fail to act now, then 2028 will potentially see the pendulum swing towards the first Republican Nazi President in America.
I think both sides will probably look to calm the farm somewhat, and whomever wins the 2028 Republican primary will do so under the guise of a significantly more moderate platform
I really hope that is where this leads.
There are a lot of emboldened white supremacists and Nazis in the Republican party now.
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
It appears the Democrats have won a majority in the Texas House of Reps, which will aid the new governor. Not clear whether they will win the state Senate as well: only half the seats are up for election (they hold biennial half-senate elections for four year terms).
What’s kinda ironic is that its the “low tax” business environment that was set up by the state GOP in Texas has been fundamental to the change in demographics of the state (that being younger, more economically mobile, more highly educated and more ethnically varied) that has result in this political shift


Aaaaand here we go again.
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
It appears the Democrats have won a majority in the Texas House of Reps, which will aid the new governor. Not clear whether they will win the state Senate as well: only half the seats are up for election (they hold biennial half-senate elections for four year terms).
What’s kinda ironic is that its the “low tax” business environment that was set up by the state GOP in Texas has been fundamental to the change in demographics of the state (that being younger, more economically mobile, more highly educated and more ethnically varied) that has result in this political shift
LOLz
:)
:)
kii said:
Damn
Spiny Norman said:
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Aaaaand here we go again.
2029? Lots of things can happen between now and then.
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Aaaaand here we go again.
2029? Lots of things can happen between now and then.
I’d wager he’s confused about when the new Congress is sworn in.
Spiny Norman said:
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Aaaaand here we go again.
This is what worries me.
d-s seems to think that the God-given right to bear arms MAGA brigade would only use law courts and ballot boxes.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Aaaaand here we go again.
2029? Lots of things can happen between now and then.
I’d wager he’s confused about when the new Congress is sworn in.
Nods.
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Aaaaand here we go again.
This is what worries me.
d-s seems to think that the God-given right to bear arms MAGA brigade would only use law courts and ballot boxes.
Who knows who Trump has bribed or coerced to his side.
Come election time and when he has to leave we will see how it goes down.
He doesn’t hold anything decent sacred so he’d be happy for it to all collapse pushed by him.
The world is going to get a lot worse over these next 10 to 20 years and he could be seen as a moderate in the future
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/04/opinion/trump-democrats-midterms.html

Meanwhile
dv said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/04/opinion/trump-democrats-midterms.html
Meanwhile
Maybe that should read that Trump has the Democrats right where they want him?
dv said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/04/opinion/trump-democrats-midterms.html
Meanwhile
What a clever fella!
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/6199864-eric-armstrong-iowa-house-win/
Iowa Democrat who quit race wins seat anyway
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dv said:
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/6199864-eric-armstrong-iowa-house-win/Iowa Democrat who quit race wins seat anyway
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Lolol…one of my favourite shows. I love Walter White.
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I heard ‘blunammi’ mentioned on the news but I think I prefer ‘blukakke’…
Democretaceous-Tertiary Extinction Level Event
+1
Michael V said:
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
What’s kinda ironic is that its the “low tax” business environment that was set up by the state GOP in Texas has been fundamental to the change in demographics of the state (that being younger, more economically mobile, more highly educated and more ethnically varied) that has result in this political shift
LOLz
:)
:)
seems “if you don’t like it then leave” is some of the shittiest fixed mindset cowardly defeatist quitter talk ever
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/04/opinion/trump-democrats-midterms.html
Meanwhile
What a clever fella!
what’s their precis though
ms spock said:
I really hope that is where this leads.
There are a lot of emboldened white supremacists and Nazis in the Republican party now.
in the world
time to watch the ussaese pat themselves on the back and squander 2 years while the world continues to fall apart
ms spock said:
diddly-squat said:
ms spock said:I am concerned that if the Corporate Democrats fail to act now, then 2028 will potentially see the pendulum swing towards the first Republican Nazi President in America.
I think both sides will probably look to calm the farm somewhat, and whomever wins the 2028 Republican primary will do so under the guise of a significantly more moderate platform
I really hope that is where this leads.
There are a lot of emboldened white supremacists and Nazis in the Republican party now.
Look hand on heart I hope the Republican Party just dies. It has been a long time since they made any positive contribution.
The Democrats are a basic right of centre “party of management” like the NZ National Party or the German Christian Democrats, and their opponents need to be something like a Social Dem or Labor party to consistently push things forward, and the Republicans need to be taken to landfill. Quite a few Socialist candidates were elected (as part of the Democratic party) this time and perhaps they’ll form the nucleus of a new party in years to come.
Even in the best case scenarios it would take two election cycles to make this happen but my hope and fervent prayer is that this year is the start of this process.
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
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Aaaaand here we go again.
This is what worries me.
d-s seems to think that the God-given right to bear arms MAGA brigade would only use law courts and ballot boxes.
my point was that the courts have actually protected against the gun carrying MAGA brigade, but anyway…
dv said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/04/opinion/trump-democrats-midterms.html
Meanwhile
Sure.
dv said:
ms spock said:
diddly-squat said:I think both sides will probably look to calm the farm somewhat, and whomever wins the 2028 Republican primary will do so under the guise of a significantly more moderate platform
I really hope that is where this leads.
There are a lot of emboldened white supremacists and Nazis in the Republican party now.
Look hand on heart I hope the Republican Party just dies. It has been a long time since they made any positive contribution.
The Democrats are a basic right of centre “party of management” like the NZ National Party or the German Christian Democrats, and their opponents need to be something like a Social Dem or Labor party to consistently push things forward, and the Republicans need to be taken to landfill. Quite a few Socialist candidates were elected (as part of the Democratic party) this time and perhaps they’ll form the nucleus of a new party in years to come.Even in the best case scenarios it would take two election cycles to make this happen but my hope and fervent prayer is that this year is the start of this process.
The GOP will remake itself out of whatever happens off the back of the 2028 presidential elections.
The simple fact is that the US’s two-party system doesn’t leave a lot of room for factional offshoots – look at the Tea Party movement in the early 2010s and ultimately the MAGA movement (which essentially took over Republican idology)
dv said:
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/6199864-eric-armstrong-iowa-house-win/Iowa Democrat who quit race wins seat anyway
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:)
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
I really hope that is where this leads.
There are a lot of emboldened white supremacists and Nazis in the Republican party now.
in the world
time to watch the ussaese pat themselves on the back and squander 2 years while the world continues to fall apart
History doesn’t do us any favours regarding how people react when life gets hard (relatively speaking as well)
Nasty people offer simple minded solutions that never work all they do is blame some easy target that people dislike anyway.
The USA has the two political parties its money driven capitalist society wanted.
Its people the poor and middle-class deserve better, fancy having to beg for basic decent working conditions in a nation so wealthy

dv said:
He can always get a job murdering teenage and young adults in his home town
Spiny Norman said:
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Aaaaand here we go again.
Can Presidential pardons be taken back by subsequent Presidents?
Cymek said:
dv said:
He can always get a job murdering teenage and young adults in his home town
Well that’s a reach.
dv said:
Cymek said:
dv said:
He can always get a job murdering teenage and young adults in his home town
Well that’s a reach.
Its a name pun
To reflect on some that did get away
Florida
R by 1.3% in the gubernatorial election
R by 2.9% in the senate election
Louisiana
R by 1.8% in the senate election
Tennesee
R by 2.5% in the gubernatorial election
Alabama
R by 4.1% in the gubernatorial election
New Hampshire and Vermont also continued to elect Republican governors, despite being broadly progressive states otherwise.

Just heard this stat.. young men 18-29 years old swung 38 points in the election from the results of 2024.
kii said:
LOLz
:)

Honestly I’ve seen a dozen posts misunderstanding this concept.
Cymek said:
dv said:
Cymek said:He can always get a job murdering teenage and young adults in his home town
Well that’s a reach.
Its a name pun
Groovy baby
dv said:
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Honestly I’ve seen a dozen posts misunderstanding this concept.
What is their idea of this?
Michael V said:
dv said:
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Honestly I’ve seen a dozen posts misunderstanding this concept.
What is their idea of this?
Dozens of variations on the theme “if blue win why map look mainly red?”




fsm said:
the apostrophe police have been notified.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1EA1HmvKEi/
Elon Musk caught deleting posts after Republican midterm election disaster
Billionaire Elon Musk poured more money into the 2026 midterm elections than any individual donor in modern American history, backing Republicans across the country. It didn’t work out the way he hoped, as Democrats took control of both the House and the Senate on Tuesday night.
Now, the world’s richest man appears to be trying to pretend that his Election Day push never happened. Musk reportedly deleted his “Vote red today!” post from X on Wednesday, along with a pinned post urging his followers to vote for Republican Senate candidates. Needless to say, people noticed.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/elon-musk-caught-deleting-posts-114030869.html


I need a ruling, which is NM’s best tweet?
dv said:
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I need a ruling, which is NM’s best tweet?
The second one.
As long as she keeps her promise.
https://www.nine.com.au/australia-news/one-nation-removes-blog-post-donald-trump-comparisons-us-midterm-elections-20261105-p61bq7.html
speaking of
far more sensible of late
inflammatory off the cuff click-bait comments
easy to look sensible wihen the people to the right of you look like raving loonies
stopped being all shouty. And histrionic
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-05/trump-us-midterms-maga-marjorie-taylor-greene/107351240

I’m glad they are doing not too bad on happiness:

dv said:
Wow!
The Rev Dodgson said:
I’m glad they are doing not too bad on happiness:
propaganda is a hell of a drug
With the election of Nithya Raman as LA mayor, the USA’s two biggest cities are being run by socialists.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/nov/05/who-is-nithya-raman-los-angeles-mayor
Michael V said:
dv said:
Wow!
good to know their representatives had the guts to stand up with integrity and say the things that needed to be said long before the winds were favourable
The Rev Dodgson said:
I’m glad they are doing not too bad on happiness:
Maybe they are also #1 at state-sanctioned killings (western world).
dv said:
With the election of Nithya Raman as LA mayor, the USA’s two biggest cities are being run by socialists.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/nov/05/who-is-nithya-raman-los-angeles-mayor
Good.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Wow!
good to know their representatives had the guts to stand up with integrity and say the things that needed to be said long before the winds were favourable
Ha! Cynic.
The Rev Dodgson said:
I’m glad they are doing not too bad on happiness:
You’d think they’d be happier being #1 at believing they’re #1.
KJW said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I’m glad they are doing not too bad on happiness:
You’d think they’d be happier being #1 at believing they’re #1.
https://www.vanityfair.com/story/midterms-republican-watch-party-blue-wave
As Dua Lipa blasted from the speakers inside, a man on a smoke break out on the street took big gulps of a pint of lager and stared down at his phone. “Darline Graham just plummeted on Polymarket,” he said, exhaling from his cigarette. “I hate my fucking life right now. Everything just sucks. Jesus Christ, we’re gonna lose it all.” A car drove past Butterworth’s with the windows down. A woman leaning out of an open window screamed, “Oh yeah, Democrats!”
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“I’m not trying to crash out,” said one of the men, a Republican volunteer. “But we nominated Hitler with Down syndrome. And guess what?! He lost! He lost! And now we lose a Supreme Court justice. It is a fucking disaster.”
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https://youtu.be/6LbmvFgQ-8g?si=D5pL6vMcizxLSeBB
Legal Eagles: prosecutions are necessary
dv said:
KJW said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I’m glad they are doing not too bad on happiness:
You’d think they’d be happier being #1 at believing they’re #1.
- out of developed countries ain’t that good … it’s middle of the pack
as long as you’re ahead of the next guy
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
KJW said:
You’d think they’d be happier being #1 at believing they’re #1.
- out of developed countries ain’t that good … it’s middle of the pack
as long as you’re ahead of the next guy
Apart from which, surely being “not too bad” and “middle of the pack” are pretty well the same thing.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
- out of developed countries ain’t that good … it’s middle of the pack
as long as you’re ahead of the next guy
Apart from which, surely being “not too bad” and “middle of the pack” are pretty well the same thing.
maybe it’s just another dunning kruger type effect so rankings are less meaningful because instead of a range of happiness from 0=absoluteZeroHappy to 1=perfectlyHappy the actual range is 0.67 to 0.71 and so rankings just capture noise for the 96%=most part
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:dv said:
- out of developed countries ain’t that good … it’s middle of the pack
as long as you’re ahead of the next guy
Apart from which, surely being “not too bad” and “middle of the pack” are pretty well the same thing.
fine
Ian said:
It is poetic justice.
Well Trump hasn’t nuked another country, so far.
ms spock said:
Well Trump hasn’t nuked another country, so far.
thankfully
it’ll be good to see these big powerful countries lift the standard they set, so that other countries may see that they need to act better themselves and not get away with it
not saying it will necessarily happen but it will be good
Now that all the tumult and shouting has pretty much died away, many people are looking forward to getting some answers to some really nasty questions that have been hanging around for some time now.
Unless, of course, the Democrats decide to be deucedly ‘gentlemanly’ about it.
From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:

I rather expected this. That polite, unwritten and unspoken agreement that seems to exist in politics everywhere.
“Tell you what, we won’t make any serious efforts to turn over any rocks that have your party’s really disgusting/criminal things under them, if you agree to not take any of the skeletons out of our cupboard and expose them to scrutiny when you have the chance, OK?’
Of course, there may be some ‘inquiries’ held where people get ‘grilled’ about some things, and there may be some red faces at which people can point and jeer, but, ultimately, no-one will suffer greatly, no-one will go to prison, and it will be determined that society is to blame.
captain_spalding said:
Now that all the tumult and shouting has pretty much died away, many people are looking forward to getting some answers to some really nasty questions that have been hanging around for some time now.Unless, of course, the Democrats decide to be deucedly ‘gentlemanly’ about it.
From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
I rather expected this. That polite, unwritten and unspoken agreement that seems to exist in politics everywhere.
“Tell you what, we won’t make any serious efforts to turn over any rocks that have your party’s really disgusting/criminal things under them, if you agree to not take any of the skeletons out of our cupboard and expose them to scrutiny when you have the chance, OK?’
Of course, there may be some ‘inquiries’ held where people get ‘grilled’ about some things, and there may be some red faces at which people can point and jeer, but, ultimately, no-one will suffer greatly, no-one will go to prison, and it will be determined that society is to blame.
That’s a very cynical and grim assessment. I don’t think the Democrat efforts at accountability during Trump’s first term and during Biden’s support your contention either.
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
Now that all the tumult and shouting has pretty much died away, many people are looking forward to getting some answers to some really nasty questions that have been hanging around for some time now.Unless, of course, the Democrats decide to be deucedly ‘gentlemanly’ about it.
From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
I rather expected this. That polite, unwritten and unspoken agreement that seems to exist in politics everywhere.
“Tell you what, we won’t make any serious efforts to turn over any rocks that have your party’s really disgusting/criminal things under them, if you agree to not take any of the skeletons out of our cupboard and expose them to scrutiny when you have the chance, OK?’
Of course, there may be some ‘inquiries’ held where people get ‘grilled’ about some things, and there may be some red faces at which people can point and jeer, but, ultimately, no-one will suffer greatly, no-one will go to prison, and it will be determined that society is to blame.
That’s a very cynical and grim assessment. I don’t think the Democrat efforts at accountability during Trump’s first term and during Biden’s support your contention either.
Perhaps i am being unkind to the Dems.
On the other hand, it’s no great risk to demand a crusade when you know that the other side will put the ki-bosh on every such notion.
captain_spalding said:
Now that all the tumult and shouting has pretty much died away, many people are looking forward to getting some answers to some really nasty questions that have been hanging around for some time now.
Unless, of course, the Democrats decide to be deucedly ‘gentlemanly’ about it.
From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
I rather expected this. That polite, unwritten and unspoken agreement that seems to exist in politics everywhere.
“Tell you what, we won’t make any serious efforts to turn over any rocks that have your party’s really disgusting/criminal things under them, if you agree to not take any of the skeletons out of our cupboard and expose them to scrutiny when you have the chance, OK?’
Of course, there may be some ‘inquiries’ held where people get ‘grilled’ about some things, and there may be some red faces at which people can point and jeer, but, ultimately, no-one will suffer greatly, no-one will go to prison, and it will be determined that society is to blame.
we love that when they know they have practically no chance of success then they can come out screaming and shouting that they will fix it all up, but suddenly when there’s a possibility of actually getting burnt it’s all peace pipes and olive branches
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
Now that all the tumult and shouting has pretty much died away, many people are looking forward to getting some answers to some really nasty questions that have been hanging around for some time now.
Unless, of course, the Democrats decide to be deucedly ‘gentlemanly’ about it.
From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
I rather expected this. That polite, unwritten and unspoken agreement that seems to exist in politics everywhere.
“Tell you what, we won’t make any serious efforts to turn over any rocks that have your party’s really disgusting/criminal things under them, if you agree to not take any of the skeletons out of our cupboard and expose them to scrutiny when you have the chance, OK?’
Of course, there may be some ‘inquiries’ held where people get ‘grilled’ about some things, and there may be some red faces at which people can point and jeer, but, ultimately, no-one will suffer greatly, no-one will go to prison, and it will be determined that society is to blame.
That’s a very cynical and grim assessment. I don’t think the Democrat efforts at accountability during Trump’s first term and during Biden’s support your contention either.
Perhaps i am being unkind to the Dems.
On the other hand, it’s no great risk to demand a crusade when you know that the other side will put the ki-bosh on every such notion.
we love that when they know they have practically no chance of success then they can come out screaming and shouting that they will fix it all up, but suddenly when there’s a possibility of actually getting burnt it’s all peace pipes and olive branches
sorry we guess SCIENCE and captain_spalding are the same contributors here
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
Perhaps i am being unkind to the Dems.
On the other hand, it’s no great risk to demand a crusade when you know that the other side will put the ki-bosh on every such notion.
we love that when they know they have practically no chance of success then they can come out screaming and shouting that they will fix it all up, but suddenly when there’s a possibility of actually getting burnt it’s all peace pipes and olive branches
sorry we guess SCIENCE and captain_spalding are the same contributors here
I told you this morning, Fridays are my turn to drive the multiple-personality disorder.
captain_spalding said:
Now that all the tumult and shouting has pretty much died away, many people are looking forward to getting some answers to some really nasty questions that have been hanging around for some time now.Unless, of course, the Democrats decide to be deucedly ‘gentlemanly’ about it.
From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
I rather expected this. That polite, unwritten and unspoken agreement that seems to exist in politics everywhere.
“Tell you what, we won’t make any serious efforts to turn over any rocks that have your party’s really disgusting/criminal things under them, if you agree to not take any of the skeletons out of our cupboard and expose them to scrutiny when you have the chance, OK?’
Of course, there may be some ‘inquiries’ held where people get ‘grilled’ about some things, and there may be some red faces at which people can point and jeer, but, ultimately, no-one will suffer greatly, no-one will go to prison, and it will be determined that society is to blame.
I think congressional oversight will be a key focus of the Dems over the next two years.. People like Musk Witkoff and Kushner will be top of the list of people that will be hauled in front of committees.
I think they need to stay very focused on following the money and highlighting the corruption – leave the impeachment process to the people as the US public seems to be the one institution that has shown it’s ability to repudiate the administration’s agenda and actions.
Key legislative priorities need to be be related to limiting congressional member’s ability to make financial gains from their position through stock trading and boarding access to healthcare.
Do these things and they are a shoe-in for 2028.
now there’s something
Mr Newsom moved to grant clemency to 548 people sentenced to death in California, of whom 529 are men and 19 are women, according to numbers provided by his office. The state constitution requires the California Supreme Court’s approval to grant clemency to anyone convicted of a felony more than once. About 382 of those commutations, or roughly 70 per cent, would require approval, according to Mr Newsom’s office. No-one has been executed in the state since 2006 ,and California has the largest death row in the Western Hemisphere.
diddly-squat said:
captain_spalding said:
Now that all the tumult and shouting has pretty much died away, many people are looking forward to getting some answers to some really nasty questions that have been hanging around for some time now.Unless, of course, the Democrats decide to be deucedly ‘gentlemanly’ about it.
From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
I rather expected this. That polite, unwritten and unspoken agreement that seems to exist in politics everywhere.
“Tell you what, we won’t make any serious efforts to turn over any rocks that have your party’s really disgusting/criminal things under them, if you agree to not take any of the skeletons out of our cupboard and expose them to scrutiny when you have the chance, OK?’
Of course, there may be some ‘inquiries’ held where people get ‘grilled’ about some things, and there may be some red faces at which people can point and jeer, but, ultimately, no-one will suffer greatly, no-one will go to prison, and it will be determined that society is to blame.
I think congressional oversight will be a key focus of the Dems over the next two years.. People like Musk Witkoff and Kushner will be top of the list of people that will be hauled in front of committees.
I think they need to stay very focused on following the money and highlighting the corruption – leave the impeachment process to the people as the US public seems to be the one institution that has shown it’s ability to repudiate the administration’s agenda and actions.
Key legislative priorities need to be be related to limiting congressional member’s ability to make financial gains from their position through stock trading and boarding access to healthcare.
Do these things and they are a shoe-in for 2028.
Should probably ban presidents from selling dodgy rebadged phones as American made
The word is out about the Election Night Watch Party at the White House on Tuesday.
For weeks, Trump had been assured by Susie Wiles and his staff that all the polls were wrong, and that, once again, the Blue Wave would only be a ripple, if one even showed up at all. And the DOJ was ready to pounce on it if it did.
Trump, after all, was on the ballot. “Vote like I’m on the ballot,’ he said, “Because I am.”
He told every rally that. He said it on FOX. He had a 90% approval rate, he said. And $5000 checks for everybody. What could possibly go wrong?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
So the East Room was decked out with the finest crystal and china. Staffers thought it would be a fun “cheeky rebuke” to order in platters of finger food from Cheesecake Factory. Just to give a finger to Barack Obama, for his viral joke about Trump’s gaudy renovations to the White House.
EVERYONE showed up in their party clothes. His Staff. His Cabinet. Top GOP politicians. Donors.
But there was no Host or Hostess to greet them. Which was a little odd. The guests mingled among themselves, and waited to be formally welcomed and invited to sample the refreshments.
Where were Trump and Melania?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Trump waited upstairs in his residence, in order to make a grand entrance to a standing ovation with cheers, once the happy results started pouring in.
And was Melania also waiting upstairs, to march in at his side?
Nope.
Melania was not at the White House at all. On election night, the most anticipated night in politics, with the rest of her husband’s term on the line, Melania was somewhere else.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Finally at 8:00 the first election results came in. But during that entire first hour, not ONE Republican was named. It was only Democrat after Democrat, starting with Jon Ossoff.
Trump never came downstairs. At all.
Marco Rubio was the first to go missing, according to the Daily Mail. Then, one by one, the rest of the party goers slipped out the door.
Only two hours later, an enormous decision was called. Democrats had flipped the House of Representatives to their control. And in most cases, the Democrats won, not by slim majorities, but by double digits.
It was 10:00, and the East Room was empty. The party goers had gone to a nearby Washington bar to drown their sorrows. The Cheesecake Factory food lay untouched on the East Room tables.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
And Trump? He was upstairs watching the results on FOX News, and posting angrily on Truth Social.
He wasn’t alone. No, Melania wasn’t with him. But Natalie Harp was.
The Daily Mail reports that Susie Wiles, his Chief of Staff was upstairs as well. The one who had assured him day after day that Republicans would win.
By 11 pm, Trump stopped posting. “He’s watching Fox News barely uttering a word and paralyzed into silence,” a source close to the president told the Daily Mail.
“It’s very, very dark in the residence,” one senior official said of Trump’s mood. “It’s a dark scene.”
Another source said, “They were delusional right until the very end.”
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Commentary by Glee Violette
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Elon Musk Spent Record-Shattering $474 Million on Midterm Elections
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Damn, already got cause to use this image
so less than 0.1% of his, damn, that’s gotta hurt so much
:)
:)
OK fine we’ll conform, yes, almost, we’ll say this would be (relatively) good news if the spend was $50000000000 and not $500000000 id est 100 times as much and near same as the price of twitter back in the day.
Elon Musk caught deleting posts after Republican midterm election disaster
Billionaire Elon Musk poured more money into the 2026 midterm elections than any individual donor in modern American history, backing Republicans across the country. It didn’t work out the way he hoped, as Democrats took control of both the House and the Senate on Tuesday night.
Now, the world’s richest man appears to be trying to pretend that his Election Day push never happened. Musk reportedly deleted his “Vote red today!” post from X on Wednesday, along with a pinned post urging his followers to vote for Republican Senate candidates. Needless to say, people noticed.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/elon-musk-caught-deleting-posts-114030869.html
ah well
The NYT reported Musk spent about $US474 million ($684 million) at this year’s midterms, more than any donor has ever spent in a single election cycle. But ultimately, that figure is a pittance to the world’s richest man — the equivalent of a millionaire contributing $US400 ($477), according to the Financial Times. As the opposition’s sweeping victory became clear earlier this week, Musk joked on X that his “election-interfering space lasers didn’t work”.
guess there was more at stake than just a donation to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation though
But other than that and his tweet about building data centres in space, Musk was unusually quiet online on election night, posting mostly about his company’s AI agent, Grok Bot. He even deleted an earlier post that said “Vote red today”, multiple US media outlets reported, and removed an October 29 post he had pinned to the top of his profile that warned against a Democrat election victory.
kii said:
The word is out about the Election Night Watch Party at the White House on Tuesday.
For weeks, Trump had been assured by Susie Wiles and his staff that all the polls were wrong, and that, once again, the Blue Wave would only be a ripple, if one even showed up at all. And the DOJ was ready to pounce on it if it did.
Trump, after all, was on the ballot. “Vote like I’m on the ballot,’ he said, “Because I am.”
He told every rally that. He said it on FOX. He had a 90% approval rate, he said. And $5000 checks for everybody. What could possibly go wrong?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
So the East Room was decked out with the finest crystal and china. Staffers thought it would be a fun “cheeky rebuke” to order in platters of finger food from Cheesecake Factory. Just to give a finger to Barack Obama, for his viral joke about Trump’s gaudy renovations to the White House.
EVERYONE showed up in their party clothes. His Staff. His Cabinet. Top GOP politicians. Donors.
But there was no Host or Hostess to greet them. Which was a little odd. The guests mingled among themselves, and waited to be formally welcomed and invited to sample the refreshments.
Where were Trump and Melania?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Trump waited upstairs in his residence, in order to make a grand entrance to a standing ovation with cheers, once the happy results started pouring in.
And was Melania also waiting upstairs, to march in at his side?
Nope.
Melania was not at the White House at all. On election night, the most anticipated night in politics, with the rest of her husband’s term on the line, Melania was somewhere else.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Finally at 8:00 the first election results came in. But during that entire first hour, not ONE Republican was named. It was only Democrat after Democrat, starting with Jon Ossoff.
Trump never came downstairs. At all.
Marco Rubio was the first to go missing, according to the Daily Mail. Then, one by one, the rest of the party goers slipped out the door.
Only two hours later, an enormous decision was called. Democrats had flipped the House of Representatives to their control. And in most cases, the Democrats won, not by slim majorities, but by double digits.
It was 10:00, and the East Room was empty. The party goers had gone to a nearby Washington bar to drown their sorrows. The Cheesecake Factory food lay untouched on the East Room tables.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
And Trump? He was upstairs watching the results on FOX News, and posting angrily on Truth Social.
He wasn’t alone. No, Melania wasn’t with him. But Natalie Harp was.
The Daily Mail reports that Susie Wiles, his Chief of Staff was upstairs as well. The one who had assured him day after day that Republicans would win.
By 11 pm, Trump stopped posting. “He’s watching Fox News barely uttering a word and paralyzed into silence,” a source close to the president told the Daily Mail.
“It’s very, very dark in the residence,” one senior official said of Trump’s mood. “It’s a dark scene.”
Another source said, “They were delusional right until the very end.”
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Commentary by Glee Violette
Maybe Melania did read the tealeaves.
Ian said:
Snigger.
kii said:
Lauren Bobert is out!!!!Maybe? Melanie Stansbury is saying it. I so fucking hope it is true.
She’ll be able to devote herself full-time to her Toilet Police duties, now.

Aww…

captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
we love that when they know they have practically no chance of success then they can come out screaming and shouting that they will fix it all up, but suddenly when there’s a possibility of actually getting burnt it’s all peace pipes and olive branches
sorry we guess SCIENCE and captain_spalding are the same contributors here
I told you this morning, Fridays are my turn to drive the multiple-personality disorder.
LOL
dv said:
The blue on that map doesn’t look like three quarters..
;)
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
The blue on that map doesn’t look like three quarters..
;)
most amusing
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
The blue on that map doesn’t look like three quarters..
;)
most amusing
Tell you hwat though, if Alaska were shown to true scale…
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
The blue on that map doesn’t look like three quarters..
;)
It’s not.
Blue states are exactly 3/5 or 60% ofthe map.
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
The blue on that map doesn’t look like three quarters..
;)
It’s not.
Blue states are exactly 3/5 or 60% ofthe map.
However, the blue states cover about 75% of the population, and 72% of the electoral college votes.
dv said:
TEXAS!!!
I mean TEXAS!!!
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
The blue on that map doesn’t look like three quarters..
;)
3/4 of the US Population. Can’t you read?
kii said:
dv said:
TEXAS!!!
I mean TEXAS!!!
What a pity the Dems didn’t try harder for Florida.
kii said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
The blue on that map doesn’t look like three quarters..
;)
3/4 of the US Population. Can’t you read?
There, there…
He’s been informed.
captain_spalding said:
kii said:
dv said:
TEXAS!!!
I mean TEXAS!!!
What a pity the Dems didn’t try harder for Florida.
Wasn’t there one race that was 1 vote off winning something in Florida?
I’ll have to go look.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
diddly-squat said:The blue on that map doesn’t look like three quarters..
;)
It’s not.
Blue states are exactly 3/5 or 60% ofthe map.
However, the blue states cover about 75% of the population, and 72% of the electoral college votes.

captain_spalding said:
kii said:
dv said:
TEXAS!!!
I mean TEXAS!!!
What a pity the Dems didn’t try harder for Florida.
Florida is doomed because of climate change. That’s if the out of control invasive species don’t gobble up the place first.
captain_spalding said:
kii said:
diddly-squat said:The blue on that map doesn’t look like three quarters..
;)
3/4 of the US Population. Can’t you read?
There, there…
He’s been informed.
I was being ironical
https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=https%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2445748/
kii said:
captain_spalding said:
kii said:TEXAS!!!
I mean TEXAS!!!
What a pity the Dems didn’t try harder for Florida.
Wasn’t there one race that was 1 vote off winning something in Florida?
I’ll have to go look.
No, it was the Angie Nixon/Chuck Schumer shitfest, and it was 1 point, according to Jennifer Welch.
captain_spalding said:
kii said:
diddly-squat said:The blue on that map doesn’t look like three quarters..
;)
3/4 of the US Population. Can’t you read?
There, there…
He’s been informed.
Thanks, but imho he needs a personality transplant. Can you organise that?
kii said:
dv said:
TEXAS!!!
I mean TEXAS!!!
I know!!!
diddly-squat said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:It’s not.
Blue states are exactly 3/5 or 60% ofthe map.
However, the blue states cover about 75% of the population, and 72% of the electoral college votes.
You needed to have read this entire thread (particularly sometime yesterday) to “get” that.
buffy said:
diddly-squat said:
captain_spalding said:However, the blue states cover about 75% of the population, and 72% of the electoral college votes.
You needed to have read this entire thread (particularly sometime yesterday) to “get” that.
Kii’s got nothing better to do…
buffy said:
kii said:
dv said:
TEXAS!!!
I mean TEXAS!!!
I know!!!
Chuck Norris isn’t there to defend them so they went down.
buffy said:
kii said:
dv said:
TEXAS!!!
I mean TEXAS!!!
I know!!!
now everyone wishes they’d stayed
buffy said:
diddly-squat said:
captain_spalding said:
However, the blue states cover about 75% of the population, and 72% of the electoral college votes.
You needed to have read this entire thread (particularly sometime yesterday) to “get” that.
uh ain’t nobody needing to read whole threads to joke about and play dumb
diddly-squat said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:It’s not.
Blue states are exactly 3/5 or 60% ofthe map.
However, the blue states cover about 75% of the population, and 72% of the electoral college votes.
That is what abusive people say: It’s just a joke!
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
kii said:TEXAS!!!
I mean TEXAS!!!
I know!!!
now everyone wishes they’d stayed
It has sort of crossed my mind. I would still have my little house, and I could adopt a few cats. I might have finally done the bathroom remodel and maybe the apricot tree would still be alive.
kii said:
diddly-squat said:
captain_spalding said:However, the blue states cover about 75% of the population, and 72% of the electoral college votes.
That is what abusive people say: It’s just a joke!
Well you’d know…
buffy said:
kii said:
dv said:
TEXAS!!!
I mean TEXAS!!!
I know!!!
I know so many progressive people in Texas, younger than me. People from the bookstore. I am so happy for them.
all this funsies is really making us consider adding for our future commentary sheesh
disinformation strikes again

SCIENCE said:
disinformation strikes again
Who would have thought the USA getting involved in the Middle East would go so badly
Katie Miller, former advisor to the president on national efficiency and wife of Satan, has said that she didn’t vote because when you vote in Virginia you “dox your own address”. I hope her view catches on among like minded Republicans.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/katie-miller-just-blamed-motherhood-170415440.html
SCIENCE said:
disinformation strikes again
That’s not a great way to present the data. I’d rather know what percentage of Republicans thought the war was a major issue than know what percentage of those that thought the war was a major issue are Republicans.
captain_spalding said:
kii said:
diddly-squat said:The blue on that map doesn’t look like three quarters..
;)
3/4 of the US Population. Can’t you read?
There, there…
He’s been informed.
plus the wink, I guess.
I’ll wait until the full results are in but it does seem a few Republican states suffered from the “gerrymander cliff” problem.
In a pack and crack gerrymander, you pack a lot of your opponents into a small number of districts, and give your own party districts with a modest majority.
e.g. suppose your state, per the recent election, has about 50-50 R and D voters, and you have free reign to redistrict into 5 districts.
You’ll get out the demographic maps and work out how to draw boundaries so that the great bulk of the D voters are in one district like:
A: 90% D 10% R
B: 40% D 60% R
C: 40% D 60% R
D: 40% D 60% R
E: 40% D 60% R
So despite the voters being even, you’ve garnered 4 divisions versus your opponent’s 1.
But what happens of there is a 11% swing. Suddenly, you’ve got nothing.
kii said:
diddly-squat said:
captain_spalding said:However, the blue states cover about 75% of the population, and 72% of the electoral college votes.
That is what abusive people say: It’s just a joke!
Honestly, i did ‘get’ the joke.
I just did the stats in case anyone had any doubts/misconceptions.
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:disinformation strikes again
Who would have thought the USA getting involved in the Middle East would go so badly
Oh, for the day when our oil dependence has diminished to the point where we (Aus., US, UK, Europe, etc) can say to both the Arabs and the Israelis, you know what, we just don’t give a shit.
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:disinformation strikes again
Who would have thought the USA getting involved in the Middle East would go so badly
Oh, for the day when our oil dependence has diminished to the point where we (Aus., US, UK, Europe, etc) can say to both the Arabs and the Israelis, you know what, we just don’t give a shit.
A big driver is expansionist Zionism, the desire to create a greater Israel by seizing Arab lands and driving them out. This has nothing to do with oil. With a population of less than10 million the Israelis have no chance against a couplea hundred million Arabs, plus a hundred million or so each of Persians and Turks. They need US involvement and meddling in the region. People in the US are getting sick of the Israel lobby too, and they run one of the biggest superpacs of them all.
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
disinformation strikes again
Who would have thought the USA getting involved in the Middle East would go so badly
Oh, for the day when our oil dependence has diminished to the point where we (Aus., US, UK, Europe, etc) can say to both the Arabs and the Israelis, you know what, we just don’t give a shit.
agreed we do support heavy investment in solar panels and electric vehicles and especially sourcing them from a responsible global power that has not started recent wars and has diplomatically and economically negotiated for better outcomes for people across the world
captain_spalding said:
kii said:
diddly-squat said:
That is what abusive people say: It’s just a joke!
Honestly, i did ‘get’ the joke.
I just did the stats in case anyone had any doubts/misconceptions.
that’s what people who didn’t get the joke say: we totally got it, we’re just helping explain it for the n00bz
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:Who would have thought the USA getting involved in the Middle East would go so badly
Oh, for the day when our oil dependence has diminished to the point where we (Aus., US, UK, Europe, etc) can say to both the Arabs and the Israelis, you know what, we just don’t give a shit.
A big driver is expansionist Zionism, the desire to create a greater Israel by seizing Arab lands and driving them out. This has nothing to do with oil. With a population of less than10 million the Israelis have no chance against a couplea hundred million Arabs, plus a hundred million or so each of Persians and Turks. They need US involvement and meddling in the region. People in the US are getting sick of the Israel lobby too, and they run one of the biggest superpacs of them all.
I think that does, indirectly, have to do with oil.
If the US, and to a lesser extent, the rest of the West, doesn’t express a concern about conflict between Israel and Arabs/Iranians, and perhaps try to keep Israel on the leash, then Arab countries not directly involved (like Gulf states, who control a lot of oil) might decide to demonstrate the price of disinterest.
dv said:
I’ll wait until the full results are in but it does seem a few Republican states suffered from the “gerrymander cliff” problem.
In a pack and crack gerrymander, you pack a lot of your opponents into a small number of districts, and give your own party districts with a modest majority.
e.g. suppose your state, per the recent election, has about 50-50 R and D voters, and you have free reign to redistrict into 5 districts.
You’ll get out the demographic maps and work out how to draw boundaries so that the great bulk of the D voters are in one district like:
A: 90% D 10% R
B: 40% D 60% R
C: 40% D 60% R
D: 40% D 60% R
E: 40% D 60% RSo despite the voters being even, you’ve garnered 4 divisions versus your opponent’s 1.
But what happens of there is a 11% swing. Suddenly, you’ve got nothing.
perfect
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
kii said:
That is what abusive people say: It’s just a joke!
Honestly, i did ‘get’ the joke.
I just did the stats in case anyone had any doubts/misconceptions.
that’s what people who didn’t get the joke say: we totally got it, we’re just helping explain it for the n00bz
In which case i will say no more, lest i further incriminate myself.
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
disinformation strikes again
That’s not a great way to present the data. I’d rather know what percentage of Republicans thought the war was a major issue than know what percentage of those that thought the war was a major issue are Republicans.
exactly but even if those were the data they were presenting their format is still shit
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
Honestly, i did ‘get’ the joke.
I just did the stats in case anyone had any doubts/misconceptions.
that’s what people who didn’t get the joke say: we totally got it, we’re just helping explain it for the n00bz
In which case i will say no more, lest i further incriminate myself.
what we were being serious, we weren’t trying to play the strait fella for your self deprecating joke that nobody got
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
that’s what people who didn’t get the joke say: we totally got it, we’re just helping explain it for the n00bz
In which case i will say no more, lest i further incriminate myself.
what we were being serious, we weren’t trying to play the strait fella for your self deprecating joke that nobody got
Don’t forget, we established this morning that you’re just one projection of my multiple personality disorder,
You be nice, or i won’t let you out again.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Oh, for the day when our oil dependence has diminished to the point where we (Aus., US, UK, Europe, etc) can say to both the Arabs and the Israelis, you know what, we just don’t give a shit.
A big driver is expansionist Zionism, the desire to create a greater Israel by seizing Arab lands and driving them out. This has nothing to do with oil. With a population of less than10 million the Israelis have no chance against a couplea hundred million Arabs, plus a hundred million or so each of Persians and Turks. They need US involvement and meddling in the region. People in the US are getting sick of the Israel lobby too, and they run one of the biggest superpacs of them all.
I think that does, indirectly, have to do with oil.
If the US, and to a lesser extent, the rest of the West, doesn’t express a concern about conflict between Israel and Arabs/Iranians, and perhaps try to keep Israel on the leash, then Arab countries not directly involved (like Gulf states, who control a lot of oil) might decide to demonstrate the price of disinterest.
If we are a fair nation we should acknowledge the damage done to the Middle East over the 19th – 21st centuries and perhaps this is why terrorists exist.
We don’t though its all they are the baddies and we just twiddled our thumbs doing nothing wrong.
Sure the Middle East has fanatics but that’s religion for you
A United Middle East would be a powerful economic block and we couldn’t have that either
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:A big driver is expansionist Zionism, the desire to create a greater Israel by seizing Arab lands and driving them out. This has nothing to do with oil. With a population of less than10 million the Israelis have no chance against a couplea hundred million Arabs, plus a hundred million or so each of Persians and Turks. They need US involvement and meddling in the region. People in the US are getting sick of the Israel lobby too, and they run one of the biggest superpacs of them all.
I think that does, indirectly, have to do with oil.
If the US, and to a lesser extent, the rest of the West, doesn’t express a concern about conflict between Israel and Arabs/Iranians, and perhaps try to keep Israel on the leash, then Arab countries not directly involved (like Gulf states, who control a lot of oil) might decide to demonstrate the price of disinterest.
If we are a fair nation we should acknowledge the damage done to the Middle East over the 19th – 21st centuries and perhaps this is why terrorists exist.
We don’t though its all they are the baddies and we just twiddled our thumbs doing nothing wrong.
Sure the Middle East has fanatics but that’s religion for you
A United Middle East would be a powerful economic block and we couldn’t have that either
The whole region is a mess, and many of the countries and their borders are artificial, mostly drawn on maps by Europeans in years past without reference to the people on the ground. You’d expect them to be pissed at the west in general. But if the west leaves then China might step in to fill the void and start to rearrange things the way it suits them.
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:A big driver is expansionist Zionism, the desire to create a greater Israel by seizing Arab lands and driving them out. This has nothing to do with oil. With a population of less than10 million the Israelis have no chance against a couplea hundred million Arabs, plus a hundred million or so each of Persians and Turks. They need US involvement and meddling in the region. People in the US are getting sick of the Israel lobby too, and they run one of the biggest superpacs of them all.
I think that does, indirectly, have to do with oil.
If the US, and to a lesser extent, the rest of the West, doesn’t express a concern about conflict between Israel and Arabs/Iranians, and perhaps try to keep Israel on the leash, then Arab countries not directly involved (like Gulf states, who control a lot of oil) might decide to demonstrate the price of disinterest.
If we are a fair nation we should acknowledge the damage done to the Middle East over the 19th – 21st centuries and perhaps this is why terrorists exist.
We don’t though its all they are the baddies and we just twiddled our thumbs doing nothing wrong.
Sure the Middle East has fanatics but that’s religion for you
A United Middle East would be a powerful economic block and we couldn’t have that either
The West, particularly the British, the French, and the Americans certainly did a lot in comparatively recent times to make the situation a lot more complicated.
But, the region has hardly gone from morning smoko to lunchtime in the past 3,000 – 5,000 years without some bunch or other ‘smiting’ some other bunch over some religious, ethnic, or territorial ‘issue’.
The West is just the latest ingredient in the mix, but it has to be admitted that the disputes today largely stem from dumb decisions made by the West in the 20th century.
dv said:
I’ll wait until the full results are in but it does seem a few Republican states suffered from the “gerrymander cliff” problem.In a pack and crack gerrymander, you pack a lot of your opponents into a small number of districts, and give your own party districts with a modest majority.
e.g. suppose your state, per the recent election, has about 50-50 R and D voters, and you have free reign to redistrict into 5 districts.
You’ll get out the demographic maps and work out how to draw boundaries so that the great bulk of the D voters are in one district like:
A: 90% D 10% R
B: 40% D 60% R
C: 40% D 60% R
D: 40% D 60% R
E: 40% D 60% RSo despite the voters being even, you’ve garnered 4 divisions versus your opponent’s 1.
But what happens of there is a 11% swing. Suddenly, you’ve got nothing.
Interesting.
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:I think that does, indirectly, have to do with oil.
If the US, and to a lesser extent, the rest of the West, doesn’t express a concern about conflict between Israel and Arabs/Iranians, and perhaps try to keep Israel on the leash, then Arab countries not directly involved (like Gulf states, who control a lot of oil) might decide to demonstrate the price of disinterest.
If we are a fair nation we should acknowledge the damage done to the Middle East over the 19th – 21st centuries and perhaps this is why terrorists exist.
We don’t though its all they are the baddies and we just twiddled our thumbs doing nothing wrong.
Sure the Middle East has fanatics but that’s religion for you
A United Middle East would be a powerful economic block and we couldn’t have that either
The whole region is a mess, and many of the countries and their borders are artificial, mostly drawn on maps by Europeans in years past without reference to the people on the ground. You’d expect them to be pissed at the west in general. But if the west leaves then China might step in to fill the void and start to rearrange things the way it suits them.
No easy solution that’s for sure
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
Cymek said:If we are a fair nation we should acknowledge the damage done to the Middle East over the 19th – 21st centuries and perhaps this is why terrorists exist.
We don’t though its all they are the baddies and we just twiddled our thumbs doing nothing wrong.
Sure the Middle East has fanatics but that’s religion for you
A United Middle East would be a powerful economic block and we couldn’t have that either
The whole region is a mess, and many of the countries and their borders are artificial, mostly drawn on maps by Europeans in years past without reference to the people on the ground. You’d expect them to be pissed at the west in general. But if the west leaves then China might step in to fill the void and start to rearrange things the way it suits them.
No easy solution that’s for sure
can’t we just entertain them to death
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:A big driver is expansionist Zionism, the desire to create a greater Israel by seizing Arab lands and driving them out. This has nothing to do with oil. With a population of less than10 million the Israelis have no chance against a couplea hundred million Arabs, plus a hundred million or so each of Persians and Turks. They need US involvement and meddling in the region. People in the US are getting sick of the Israel lobby too, and they run one of the biggest superpacs of them all.
I think that does, indirectly, have to do with oil.
If the US, and to a lesser extent, the rest of the West, doesn’t express a concern about conflict between Israel and Arabs/Iranians, and perhaps try to keep Israel on the leash, then Arab countries not directly involved (like Gulf states, who control a lot of oil) might decide to demonstrate the price of disinterest.
If we are a fair nation we should acknowledge the damage done to the Middle East over the 19th – 21st centuries and perhaps this is why terrorists exist.
We don’t though its all they are the baddies and we just twiddled our thumbs doing nothing wrong.
Sure the Middle East has fanatics but that’s religion for you
A United Middle East would be a powerful economic block and we couldn’t have that either
Most Arab nations and Turkey are strong allies of the US.
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:I think that does, indirectly, have to do with oil.
If the US, and to a lesser extent, the rest of the West, doesn’t express a concern about conflict between Israel and Arabs/Iranians, and perhaps try to keep Israel on the leash, then Arab countries not directly involved (like Gulf states, who control a lot of oil) might decide to demonstrate the price of disinterest.
If we are a fair nation we should acknowledge the damage done to the Middle East over the 19th – 21st centuries and perhaps this is why terrorists exist.
We don’t though its all they are the baddies and we just twiddled our thumbs doing nothing wrong.
Sure the Middle East has fanatics but that’s religion for you
A United Middle East would be a powerful economic block and we couldn’t have that either
The West, particularly the British, the French, and the Americans certainly did a lot in comparatively recent times to make the situation a lot more complicated.
But, the region has hardly gone from morning smoko to lunchtime in the past 3,000 – 5,000 years without some bunch or other ‘smiting’ some other bunch over some religious, ethnic, or territorial ‘issue’.
The West is just the latest ingredient in the mix, but it has to be admitted that the disputes today largely stem from dumb decisions made by the West in the 20th century.
It’s not as though continental Europe hasn’t been as warlike this past 3000 years
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:Who would have thought the USA getting involved in the Middle East would go so badly
Oh, for the day when our oil dependence has diminished to the point where we (Aus., US, UK, Europe, etc) can say to both the Arabs and the Israelis, you know what, we just don’t give a shit.
A big driver is expansionist Zionism, the desire to create a greater Israel by seizing Arab lands and driving them out. This has nothing to do with oil. With a population of less than10 million the Israelis have no chance against a couplea hundred million Arabs, plus a hundred million or so each of Persians and Turks. They need US involvement and meddling in the region. People in the US are getting sick of the Israel lobby too, and they run one of the biggest superpacs of them all.
But but… They didn’t live there. They were in Germany Poland Russia etc. There was no state of Israel. What gives them the idea that they can just take over other peoples land, knock doen their houses, rip out their thousand year old olives etc?
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Oh, for the day when our oil dependence has diminished to the point where we (Aus., US, UK, Europe, etc) can say to both the Arabs and the Israelis, you know what, we just don’t give a shit.
A big driver is expansionist Zionism, the desire to create a greater Israel by seizing Arab lands and driving them out. This has nothing to do with oil. With a population of less than10 million the Israelis have no chance against a couplea hundred million Arabs, plus a hundred million or so each of Persians and Turks. They need US involvement and meddling in the region. People in the US are getting sick of the Israel lobby too, and they run one of the biggest superpacs of them all.
But but… They didn’t live there. They were in Germany Poland Russia etc. There was no state of Israel. What gives them the idea that they can just take over other peoples land, knock doen their houses, rip out their thousand year old olives etc?
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Oh, for the day when our oil dependence has diminished to the point where we (Aus., US, UK, Europe, etc) can say to both the Arabs and the Israelis, you know what, we just don’t give a shit.
A big driver is expansionist Zionism, the desire to create a greater Israel by seizing Arab lands and driving them out. This has nothing to do with oil. With a population of less than10 million the Israelis have no chance against a couplea hundred million Arabs, plus a hundred million or so each of Persians and Turks. They need US involvement and meddling in the region. People in the US are getting sick of the Israel lobby too, and they run one of the biggest superpacs of them all.
But but… They didn’t live there. They were in Germany Poland Russia etc. There was no state of Israel. What gives them the idea that they can just take over other peoples land, knock doen their houses, rip out their thousand year old olives etc?
there’s no such thing as colonialism
When asked about the midterms President Trump said the new Ballroom was the most comfortable he has felt in years and you can see yourself in the reflecting pond he said.
https://religionnews.com/2026/11/04/michigan-jews-voted-for-el-sayed-but-the-community-divisions-remain/
57% of Jewish voters in Michigan voted for El Sayed.
Peak Warming Man said:
When asked about the midterms President Trump said the new Ballroom was the most comfortable he has felt in years and you can see yourself in the reflecting pond he said.
On the ball, as ever.
Peak Warming Man said:
When asked about the midterms President Trump said the new Ballroom was the most comfortable he has felt in years and you can see yourself in the reflecting pond he said.



dv said:
Is that true?
… in this day and age and all that
party_pants said:
dv said:
Is that true?
… in this day and age and all that
You don’t seem to comprehend the power of the phrase ‘if it wuz good enough for great-great-gran’pappy, it’s good enough for me’.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
Is that true?
… in this day and age and all that
You don’t seem to comprehend the power of the phrase ‘if it wuz good enough for great-great-gran’pappy, it’s good enough for me’.
Today might have been the first day I’ve ever those words in that order.
I had hoped to follow the train crash of the US midterms, but had to work and missed all the fun.
One day I’ll get to read back through the “fun” as it happened.
Kingy said:
I had hoped to follow the train crash of the US midterms, but had to work and missed all the fun.One day I’ll get to read back through the “fun” as it happened.
If you want a drinking game, go to Youtube, or the web pages of American TV networks and their news video replays, and look for election-coverage stuff.
Take a drink every time someone says ‘blue wave’ or ‘blue tsunami’.
You’ll be off your face in well under 30 minutes.
Google will be rapt!
No more wasting virtual printer’s ink on having dual names for the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario!

AussieDJ said:
Google will be rapt!No more wasting virtual printer’s ink on having dual names for the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario!
Maybe they’ll still be stuck with it. Depends on whether or not they still want to suck up to Trump, which is why the went along with it at all.
The stupid ‘name changes’ arise from Trump’s dog-and-pony-show Executive Orders.
The authority of such orders extends over only those people and roles in the Executive Branch of the US govt. No-one else, including Google, is obliged to obey.
Unless they still give a shit about what Trump thinks.
dv said:
so Texas laws are secret laws
so the ussa really is just
Democratic representative Haley Stevens, who El-Sayed beat in August’s primary, endorsed his Republican rival, Mike Rogers, two days before the election after a public dispute over Israel. The saga exposed internal fighting over policies on Israel that could threaten to fracture both the Democratic and Republican parties. Elaine Kamarck, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and former official in the Clinton White House, said where that fight went would depend on events in Israel. “It depends on whether Netanyahu remains as prime minister or if he’s ousted,” she said. “What does the opposition coalition do? Do things settle down in Gaza? Do they reduce the violence in the West Bank? I mean, there’s a lot of things that depend on Israel.”
an israeli dependency
wow what a surprise
we love it how when these commentators try to tell long stories to make themselves seem clever they just end up saying it like it is


Donald Trump has signed an executive order that he says will prevent future presidents from making certain changes to the White House Oval Office.
The executive order declares the president’s official office, which he has renovated, to be a national monument.
“We’re making it a national monument, and it will not be allowed to be touched by anybody, destroyed, ripped down by stupid people, in order to build something in a slightly different shape,” Trump told reporters on Thursday.
The order does not prevent future presidents from changing the decor of the famous room.
The document says that it does not “restrict the President’s authority to redecorate the monument, select furnishings, or make ordinary operational and security modifications that do not substantially impair the monument’s historic structure or architectural character”.
American presidents currently have the power to make some changes to the White House but large projects require the permission of Congress.
The order comes months after Trump tore down the entirety of the White House East Wing in a project that has faced legal challenges.
The project was not approved by the US Congress. Construction has continued, with plans to turn the space into a new ballroom.
How Trump is remaking the White House in his own image
Signing the new executive order on Thursday, the president said: “We like the Oval Office, and it’s a symbol, like the White House itself. It’s a symbol of our country and the greatness of our country.”
He added that world leaders who have visited in recent months have complimented his decorative changes to the room.
Trump said the White House and the Oval Office had been in need of repairs before his changes, calling it “badly damaged”. He described broken windows, cracked walls and broken stone.
Many of the noticeable changes, though, were cosmetic, including a large gold plaque reading “Oval Office” outside the space, paving over the Rose Garden and adding a new helicopter pad.
Trump said the order would “make it impossible for anybody ever to destroy this incredible space”.
It is unclear whether this action could simply be reversed by a future president or a legal challenge.
Most executive orders can be overturned and Trump himself scaled back two national monuments in Utah in 2017. But revoking a national monument designation has not yet been tested in court.
The White House grounds are already designated as a National Historic Landmark, which is intended to prevent against sudden changes to the building.
Trump’s order calls on the Oval Office to be maintained by the National Park Service “in a manner that protects its historic character, architectural integrity, and association with the Presidency”.
It notes the existing protections to the White House, but says “nonetheless, the Oval Office merits specific recognition and protective management as a discrete historic structure of national significance”.
Congress has carved out an exemption to the National Historic Preservation Act, in order to allow presidents to make needed changes. The current Oval Office has existed since the early 1930s, after its conception by President Franklin D Roosevelt.
Greg Werkheiser, from the law firm Cultural Heritage Partners, which specialises in historic preservation, says that temporary alterations like “furniture and decor is completely up to the president’s discretion”.
“As long as they’re not damaging the permanent art and architecture, they can generally do whatever they want,” he told the BBC.
Werkheiser argues that the Trump administration has shown disregard for other historic sites in Washington and, through lawsuits, has attempted to undermine the laws that require preservation.
He called Trump’s order “hypocrisy”, noting the various projects he’s pushed for across Washington – including plans to build a new triumphal arch, which has been temporarily put on hold by a federal judge.
“On the one hand he’s talking about the importance of preserving the Oval Office – which is legally meaningless because he can’t do it – and on the other hand he is absolutely taking an axe to the law that allows us to preserve other historic sites.”
there are a lot of pictures here
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmy0eeg101djo

Stephen Miller has been promoted to White House Chief of Staff.
dv said:
Stephen Miller has been promoted to White House Chief of Staff.
A very dangerous man.
dv said:
Stephen Miller has been promoted to White House Chief of Staff.
But but he’s not blonde and 36 23 36?
dv said:
Stephen Miller has been promoted to White House Chief of Staff.
Goebbels liked to be close to the Führer in the final days, too.
party_pants said:
dv said:
Stephen Miller has been promoted to White House Chief of Staff.
A very dangerous man.
The most dangerous man to be in that position.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Stephen Miller has been promoted to White House Chief of Staff.
But but he’s not blonde and 36 23 36?
There is absolutely no reason to say this. It denigrates women and perpetuates that tired old trope about Marilyn Monroe.
Grow up.
dv said:
Stephen Miller has been promoted to White House Chief of Staff.
I think the one key difference between Trump term 1 and Trump term 2 has been the difference in the competence to loyalty ratio. In term 1, Trump chose (to an increasing extent compared to term 2) establishment Republicans that were are least somewhat competent; in term 2 it’s been all about loyalty.
This was one of the key factors in the election loss where the quality of Trump anointed candidates fell significantly short and essentially lost them Texas and South Carolina.
The ousting of Susie Wiles in favor of another incompetent sycophant will only further alienate the administration from both the public and the broader GOP.
It’s gonna be a fascinating next two years.
kii said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Stephen Miller has been promoted to White House Chief of Staff.
But but he’s not blonde and 36 23 36?
There is absolutely no reason to say this. It denigrates women and perpetuates that tired old trope about Marilyn Monroe.
Grow up.
wait so men can’t be blonde or have numbers or pronouns or be promoted in the White House is that right
oh yes that’s right the sledging should be targeted at the people calling out injustice, rather than the people perpetrating injustice

This isn’t the only post I’ve seen recommending the establishment of state equivalents of the Electoral Colleges. .
SCIENCE said:
kii said:
roughbarked said:
But but he’s not blonde and 36 23 36?
There is absolutely no reason to say this. It denigrates women and perpetuates that tired old trope about Marilyn Monroe.
Grow up.
wait so men can’t be blonde or have numbers or pronouns or be promoted in the White House is that right
oh yes that’s right the sledging should be targeted at the people calling out injustice, rather than the people perpetrating injustice
quite right.


dv said:
LOL in January!
dv said:
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This isn’t the only post I’ve seen recommending the establishment of state equivalents of the Electoral Colleges. .
Something I like about our system is the fiercely independent Electoral Commissions.
SCIENCE said:
kii said:
roughbarked said:
But but he’s not blonde and 36 23 36?
There is absolutely no reason to say this. It denigrates women and perpetuates that tired old trope about Marilyn Monroe.
Grow up.
wait so men can’t be blonde or have numbers or pronouns or be promoted in the White House is that right
oh yes that’s right the sledging should be targeted at the people calling out injustice, rather than the people perpetrating injustice
Blonde is the feminine form, blond is the masculine form. So no, men can’t be blonde :)
It’s a funny little word. I have no idea where that rule comes from, but somehow I was made to learn it, and now it;s stuck in my head.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:kii said:
There is absolutely no reason to say this. It denigrates women and perpetuates that tired old trope about Marilyn Monroe.
Grow up.
wait so men can’t be blonde or have numbers or pronouns or be promoted in the White House is that right
oh yes that’s right the sledging should be targeted at the people calling out injustice, rather than the people perpetrating injustice
Blonde is the feminine form, blond is the masculine form. So no, men can’t be blonde :)
It’s a funny little word. I have no idea where that rule comes from, but somehow I was made to learn it, and now it;s stuck in my head.
Though modern usage differs from the traditional.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:wait so men can’t be blonde or have numbers or pronouns or be promoted in the White House is that right
oh yes that’s right the sledging should be targeted at the people calling out injustice, rather than the people perpetrating injustice
Blonde is the feminine form, blond is the masculine form. So no, men can’t be blonde :)
It’s a funny little word. I have no idea where that rule comes from, but somehow I was made to learn it, and now it;s stuck in my head.
Though modern usage differs from the traditional.
Yes, the modern generation don’t get caned hard enough when they make mistakes in English. Back when I were a lad ….
:)
Michael V said:
dv said:
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This isn’t the only post I’ve seen recommending the establishment of state equivalents of the Electoral Colleges. .
Something I like about our system is the fiercely independent Electoral Commissions.
This. I think they could look at our system and I don’t mind if they copy it. It would be good for them.
dv said:
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This isn’t the only post I’ve seen recommending the establishment of state equivalents of the Electoral Colleges. .
The electoral collage isn’t a terrible system in concept, the idea of giving non-proportional say to small areas so that their views and concerns are accounted for is valid. Where is falls over is in the winner takes all approach that some states apply.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
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This isn’t the only post I’ve seen recommending the establishment of state equivalents of the Electoral Colleges. .
Something I like about our system is the fiercely independent Electoral Commissions.
This. I think they could look at our system and I don’t mind if they copy it. It would be good for them.
The US is a federation where each state is given the (constitutional) right to run their own electoral process. I’m not sure that a federally run system would ever fly there, but I think that fifty independent redistricting commissions would be a huge win for electoral politics in general.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:Blonde is the feminine form, blond is the masculine form. So no, men can’t be blonde :)
It’s a funny little word. I have no idea where that rule comes from, but somehow I was made to learn it, and now it;s stuck in my head.
Though modern usage differs from the traditional.
Yes, the modern generation don’t get caned hard enough when they make mistakes in English. Back when I were a lad ….
:)
What modern kids need is a proper haircut and a good stint in the army.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
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This isn’t the only post I’ve seen recommending the establishment of state equivalents of the Electoral Colleges. .
Something I like about our system is the fiercely independent Electoral Commissions.
This. I think they could look at our system and I don’t mind if they copy it. It would be good for them.
I wonder if they are mentally capable of looking at some other system and admitting it works better than theirs. There is this perception that they invented democracy and everyone else should learn from them, there is no room for learning from others.
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
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This isn’t the only post I’ve seen recommending the establishment of state equivalents of the Electoral Colleges. .
The electoral collage isn’t a terrible system in concept, the idea of giving non-proportional say to small areas so that their views and concerns are accounted for is valid. Where is falls over is in the winner takes all approach that some states apply.
The House of Representatives exists to represent such areas.
The Presidency represents the USA at large.
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
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This isn’t the only post I’ve seen recommending the establishment of state equivalents of the Electoral Colleges. .
The electoral collage isn’t a terrible system in concept, the idea of giving non-proportional say to small areas so that their views and concerns are accounted for is valid. Where is falls over is in the winner takes all approach that some states apply.
The House of Representatives exists to represent such areas.
The Presidency represents the USA at large.
yes I understand that, all I’m saying is that the EC has its merits.
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
diddly-squat said:The electoral collage isn’t a terrible system in concept, the idea of giving non-proportional say to small areas so that their views and concerns are accounted for is valid. Where is falls over is in the winner takes all approach that some states apply.
The House of Representatives exists to represent such areas.
The Presidency represents the USA at large.
yes I understand that, all I’m saying is that the EC has its merits.
Well, agree to disagree, I guess. I think it is a junky compromise that had some relevance 250 years ago.
diddly-squat said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:Something I like about our system is the fiercely independent Electoral Commissions.
This. I think they could look at our system and I don’t mind if they copy it. It would be good for them.
The US is a federation where each state is given the (constitutional) right to run their own electoral process. I’m not sure that a federally run system would ever fly there, but I think that fifty independent redistricting commissions would be a huge win for electoral politics in general.
Each state in Australia also has its own Electoral Commission. As a system, it works well.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:wait so men can’t be blonde or have numbers or pronouns or be promoted in the White House is that right
oh yes that’s right the sledging should be targeted at the people calling out injustice, rather than the people perpetrating injustice
Blonde is the feminine form, blond is the masculine form. So no, men can’t be blonde :)
It’s a funny little word. I have no idea where that rule comes from, but somehow I was made to learn it, and now it;s stuck in my head.
Though modern usage differs from the traditional.
Probably a carry over from old French.
SCIENCE said:
kii said:
roughbarked said:
But but he’s not blonde and 36 23 36?
There is absolutely no reason to say this. It denigrates women and perpetuates that tired old trope about Marilyn Monroe.
Grow up.
wait so men can’t be blonde or have numbers or pronouns or be promoted in the White House is that right
oh yes that’s right the sledging should be targeted at the people calling out injustice, rather than the people perpetrating injustice
That is not the point of my post, SCIENCE.
kii said:
SCIENCE said:kii said:
There is absolutely no reason to say this. It denigrates women and perpetuates that tired old trope about Marilyn Monroe.
Grow up.
wait so men can’t be blonde or have numbers or pronouns or be promoted in the White House is that right
oh yes that’s right the sledging should be targeted at the people calling out injustice, rather than the people perpetrating injustice
That is not the point of my post, SCIENCE.
But you read mine wrongly.
Michael V said:
diddly-squat said:
buffy said:This. I think they could look at our system and I don’t mind if they copy it. It would be good for them.
The US is a federation where each state is given the (constitutional) right to run their own electoral process. I’m not sure that a federally run system would ever fly there, but I think that fifty independent redistricting commissions would be a huge win for electoral politics in general.
Each state in Australia also has its own Electoral Commission. As a system, it works well.
And federal elections are run by the Australian Electoral Commission, one system for the whole country for federal elections, no tinkering or sleight-of-hand by States.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
diddly-squat said:The US is a federation where each state is given the (constitutional) right to run their own electoral process. I’m not sure that a federally run system would ever fly there, but I think that fifty independent redistricting commissions would be a huge win for electoral politics in general.
Each state in Australia also has its own Electoral Commission. As a system, it works well.
And federal elections are run by the Australian Electoral Commission, one system for the whole country for federal elections, no tinkering or sleight-of-hand by States.
Sir Joh tried every way he could when he was emperor of QLD.
Mind you what I really like is the NZ mixed member proportional system but there you go.
Once this era passes, if it does, I hope they take a look at presidential powers. Right now Congress has passed laws requiring the DOJ to release all of the Epstein files, and the DOJ is just … not doing it. The folks whose job it is to make the laws can’t get the actual Department of Justice to follow the law because the DOJ is led by the Attorney General and the AG is only answerable to the President.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Blonde is the feminine form, blond is the masculine form. So no, men can’t be blonde :)
It’s a funny little word. I have no idea where that rule comes from, but somehow I was made to learn it, and now it;s stuck in my head.
Though modern usage differs from the traditional.
Yes, the modern generation don’t get caned hard enough when they make mistakes in English. Back when I were a lad ….
:)
we do stand corrected but as yous all know are pretty loose with the gendered languages anyway so that’ll be our defence
roughbarked said:
kii said:
SCIENCE said:
wait so men can’t be blonde or have numbers or pronouns or be promoted in the White House is that right
oh yes that’s right the sledging should be targeted at the people calling out injustice, rather than the people perpetrating injustice
That is not the point of my post, SCIENCE.
But you read mine wrongly.
well we don’t really know but we’re happy to be all conciliatory and forgiving today
dv said:
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This isn’t the only post I’ve seen recommending the establishment of state equivalents of the Electoral Colleges. .
That is a truly awful pictorial representation.
Double whammy.
Cats on a couch is a social media account set up to get more followers than JD Vance.
They constantly troll him.

dv said:
Mind you what I really like is the NZ mixed member proportional system but there you go.Once this era passes, if it does, I hope they take a look at presidential powers. Right now Congress has passed laws requiring the DOJ to release all of the Epstein files, and the DOJ is just … not doing it. The folks whose job it is to make the laws can’t get the actual Department of Justice to follow the law because the DOJ is led by the Attorney General and the AG is only answerable to the President.
The NZ system for the US senate? Australia in general? I prefer a bicameral system to MMP.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BB8oYDA5s/
Black voters and BATNA
wonder if this might be changing now

SCIENCE said:
wonder if this might be changing now
Smaller homes are attractive to saving energy as are smaller, lighter vehicles.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:wonder if this might be changing now
Smaller homes are attractive to saving energy as are smaller, lighter vehicles.
Looks the the owner spent more money on the vehicle than the home.
Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White has been made White House Press Secretary.
dv said:
Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White has been made White House Press Secretary.
LOLz
Michael V said:
dv said:
Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White has been made White House Press Secretary.
LOLz

Michael V said:
dv said:
Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White has been made White House Press Secretary.
LOLz
Fake media will be treated violently, there will be bruises, broken cameras and people falling over trying to get out when he starts shooting.
.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White has been made White House Press Secretary.
LOLz
Fake media will be treated violently, there will be bruises, broken cameras and people falling over trying to get out when he starts shooting.
.
A bit later, he receives a phone call from Trump’s plane, Are you sure this is the job for you Dana, I’m not sure if this job is right for you.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White has been made White House Press Secretary.
LOLz
Fake media will be treated violently, there will be bruises, broken cameras and people falling over trying to get out when he starts shooting.
.

Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:LOLz
Fake media will be treated violently, there will be bruises, broken cameras and people falling over trying to get out when he starts shooting.
.A bit later, he receives a phone call from Trump’s plane, Are you sure this is the job for you Dana, I’m not sure if this job is right for you.
This is CBS news, we will cross over to the White House for breaking news, what can you tell us Kelly? There has been a mass shooting in the white house press room, it appears that Dana White, the newly appointed press secretary became aggitated during his third question and stormed into the press shouting obscenities, the secret service we’re initially confused as to who was the shooter, it turned out to be Dana himself. Back to you Tony.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Fake media will be treated violently, there will be bruises, broken cameras and people falling over trying to get out when he starts shooting.
.A bit later, he receives a phone call from Trump’s plane, Are you sure this is the job for you Dana, I’m not sure if this job is right for you.
This is CBS news, we will cross over to the White House for breaking news, what can you tell us Kelly? There has been a mass shooting in the white house press room, it appears that Dana White, the newly appointed press secretary became aggitated during his third question and stormed into the press shouting obscenities, the secret service we’re initially confused as to who was the shooter, it turned out to be Dana himself. Back to you Tony.
I think the point that dv was subtly making is that “Dana” is a woman, with a woman’s name, not a man.
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:A bit later, he receives a phone call from Trump’s plane, Are you sure this is the job for you Dana, I’m not sure if this job is right for you.
This is CBS news, we will cross over to the White House for breaking news, what can you tell us Kelly? There has been a mass shooting in the white house press room, it appears that Dana White, the newly appointed press secretary became aggitated during his third question and stormed into the press shouting obscenities, the secret service we’re initially confused as to who was the shooter, it turned out to be Dana himself. Back to you Tony.
I think the point that dv was subtly making is that “Dana” is a woman, with a woman’s name, not a man.
But Dana White, the UFC CEO really is a man.
dv said:
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:This is CBS news, we will cross over to the White House for breaking news, what can you tell us Kelly? There has been a mass shooting in the white house press room, it appears that Dana White, the newly appointed press secretary became aggitated during his third question and stormed into the press shouting obscenities, the secret service we’re initially confused as to who was the shooter, it turned out to be Dana himself. Back to you Tony.
I think the point that dv was subtly making is that “Dana” is a woman, with a woman’s name, not a man.
But Dana White, the UFC CEO really is a man.
Ha!
I was sucked in.
dv said:
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:This is CBS news, we will cross over to the White House for breaking news, what can you tell us Kelly? There has been a mass shooting in the white house press room, it appears that Dana White, the newly appointed press secretary became aggitated during his third question and stormed into the press shouting obscenities, the secret service we’re initially confused as to who was the shooter, it turned out to be Dana himself. Back to you Tony.
I think the point that dv was subtly making is that “Dana” is a woman, with a woman’s name, not a man.
But Dana White, the UFC CEO really is a man.

Michael V said:
dv said:
Michael V said:I think the point that dv was subtly making is that “Dana” is a woman, with a woman’s name, not a man.
But Dana White, the UFC CEO really is a man.
Ha!
I was sucked in.
It’s so hard to tell these days.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
dv said:But Dana White, the UFC CEO really is a man.
Ha!
I was sucked in.
It’s so hard to tell these days.
Sure. Especially with unisex clothes and hairstyles.

dv said:
Surely it was the actions of a small group of Republicans that turned Texas Blue.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Surely it was the actions of a small group of Republicans that turned Texas Blue.
They did work very hard to get themselves kicked out.
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White has been made White House Press Secretary.
LOLz
Derp derp a derp, derp derp derpa derp.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:wonder if this might be changing now
Smaller homes are attractive to saving energy as are smaller, lighter vehicles.
Where do folks go when extreme weather hits? They need a cellar or some other shelter to protect them.
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:A bit later, he receives a phone call from Trump’s plane, Are you sure this is the job for you Dana, I’m not sure if this job is right for you.
This is CBS news, we will cross over to the White House for breaking news, what can you tell us Kelly? There has been a mass shooting in the white house press room, it appears that Dana White, the newly appointed press secretary became aggitated during his third question and stormed into the press shouting obscenities, the secret service we’re initially confused as to who was the shooter, it turned out to be Dana himself. Back to you Tony.
I think the point that dv was subtly making is that “Dana” is a woman, with a woman’s name, not a man.
It’s a good thing Dana Andrews was never told that. Could have shattered him.

Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White has been made White House Press Secretary.
LOLz
Fake media will be treated violently, there will be bruises, broken cameras and people falling over trying to get out when he starts shooting.
And the fake media will start falling out of windows. Don’t forget the windows.
ms spock said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:LOLz
Fake media will be treated violently, there will be bruises, broken cameras and people falling over trying to get out when he starts shooting.
And the fake media will start falling out of windows. Don’t forget the windows.
double glazed windows
roughbarked said:
ms spock said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Fake media will be treated violently, there will be bruises, broken cameras and people falling over trying to get out when he starts shooting.
And the fake media will start falling out of windows. Don’t forget the windows.
double glazed windows
…with gold film on them.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
dv said:But Dana White, the UFC CEO really is a man.
Ha!
I was sucked in.
It’s so hard to tell these days.
Hell yeah!
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:wonder if this might be changing now
Smaller homes are attractive to saving energy as are smaller, lighter vehicles.
That’s pretty much the situation at a house at the other end of our street that got sold recently. The new owner has a huge Yank ute that’s too big to fit into the garage so he has to park it outside, under the shade sail that extends out from the patio.
He’s also got a huge boat on a huge trailer, and to get that parked in front of the shed (it’s too big to fit into the shed) a little further down the hill he had to use the huge ute to push it up the grassy hill. And yeah, it left huge furrows in the soil doing so. He’s dug up all that now and has a gravel driveway for the boat.
Huge.
roughbarked said:
ms spock said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Fake media will be treated violently, there will be bruises, broken cameras and people falling over trying to get out when he starts shooting.
And the fake media will start falling out of windows. Don’t forget the windows.
double glazed windows
The best ones to smash through or fall out from.
ms spock said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:Ha!
I was sucked in.
It’s so hard to tell these days.
Hell yeah!
What is real and what is AI
I guess I could study it to learn more
MAGA/Republicans now understand why they went down the toilet on Tuesday. From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:

The bloke on the right. The look on his face.
“Really? We’ve sunk this far? This is the best excuse we’ve got?”
dv said:
Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White has been made White House Press Secretary.
At least it’s not Vanna White.
kii said:
dv said:
Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White has been made White House Press Secretary.
At least it’s not Vanna White.
She’d be good.
They could do a ‘Wheel of Fortune’ format. Spin the wheel, and if the reporter’s name comes up, they get an honest answer to their question.
captain_spalding said:
kii said:
dv said:
Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White has been made White House Press Secretary.
At least it’s not Vanna White.
She’d be good.
They could do a ‘Wheel of Fortune’ format. Spin the wheel, and if the reporter’s name comes up, they get an honest answer to their question.
Pigs arse.
captain_spalding said:
kii said:
dv said:
Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White has been made White House Press Secretary.
At least it’s not Vanna White.
She’d be good.
They could do a ‘Wheel of Fortune’ format. Spin the wheel, and if the reporter’s name comes up, they get an honest answer to their question.
Good idea! All done with the theatre of The Hunger Games.
kii said:
captain_spalding said:
kii said:At least it’s not Vanna White.
She’d be good.
They could do a ‘Wheel of Fortune’ format. Spin the wheel, and if the reporter’s name comes up, they get an honest answer to their question.
Good idea! All done with the theatre of The Hunger Games.
Ratings through the roof!
captain_spalding said:
MAGA/Republicans now understand why they went down the toilet on Tuesday. From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
The bloke on the right. The look on his face.
“Really? We’ve sunk this far? This is the best excuse we’ve got?”
FMD
What is “r*****d”?
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
MAGA/Republicans now understand why they went down the toilet on Tuesday. From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
The bloke on the right. The look on his face.
“Really? We’ve sunk this far? This is the best excuse we’ve got?”
FMD
What is “r*****d”?
Another word for ‘developmentally challenged’.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
MAGA/Republicans now understand why they went down the toilet on Tuesday. From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
The bloke on the right. The look on his face.
“Really? We’ve sunk this far? This is the best excuse we’ve got?”
FMD
What is “r*****d”?
Another word for ‘developmentally challenged’.
OK. Ta.
So why are they bleeping out “retarded”?
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:FMD
What is “r*****d”?
Another word for ‘developmentally challenged’.
OK. Ta.
So why are they bleeping out “retarded”?
NOt allowed to say ‘offensive’ or ‘trigger’ words on social media e.g. if you say ‘retarded’ and ‘murder’ in the same post, someone might be so offended that they go over the edge and decide to soothe their rage by doing a mass shooting at the special school.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:Another word for ‘developmentally challenged’.
OK. Ta.
So why are they bleeping out “retarded”?
NOt allowed to say ‘offensive’ or ‘trigger’ words on social media e.g. if you say ‘retarded’ and ‘murder’ in the same post, someone might be so offended that they go over the edge and decide to soothe their rage by doing a mass shooting at the special school.
Also various social media platforms target such words and censor the poster or ban them or slow down their stream or stuff. Plus bots.
You often see the word “graped” used instead of “raped”
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
MAGA/Republicans now understand why they went down the toilet on Tuesday. From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
The bloke on the right. The look on his face.
“Really? We’ve sunk this far? This is the best excuse we’ve got?”
FMD
What is “r*****d”?
Another word for ‘developmentally challenged’.
we thought it meant having flammability reduced
captain_spalding said:
MAGA/Republicans now understand why they went down the toilet on Tuesday. From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
The bloke on the right. The look on his face.
“Really? We’ve sunk this far? This is the best excuse we’ve got?”
it’s good though
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
FMD
What is “r*****d”?
Another word for ‘developmentally challenged’.
we thought it meant having flammability reduced
The phrase you’re thinking of is ‘incendiarily challenged’.
kii said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
OK. Ta.
So why are they bleeping out “retarded”?
NOt allowed to say ‘offensive’ or ‘trigger’ words on social media e.g. if you say ‘retarded’ and ‘murder’ in the same post, someone might be so offended that they go over the edge and decide to soothe their rage by doing a mass shooting at the special school.
Also various social media platforms target such words and censor the poster or ban them or slow down their stream or stuff. Plus bots.
You often see the word “graped” used instead of “raped”
can’t they just say intellectually disabled or sexually penetrated without consent
SCIENCE said:
kii said:
captain_spalding said:
NOt allowed to say ‘offensive’ or ‘trigger’ words on social media e.g. if you say ‘retarded’ and ‘murder’ in the same post, someone might be so offended that they go over the edge and decide to soothe their rage by doing a mass shooting at the special school.
Also various social media platforms target such words and censor the poster or ban them or slow down their stream or stuff. Plus bots.
You often see the word “graped” used instead of “raped”
can’t they just say intellectually disabled or sexually penetrated without consent
No.
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
MAGA/Republicans now understand why they went down the toilet on Tuesday. From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
The bloke on the right. The look on his face.
“Really? We’ve sunk this far? This is the best excuse we’ve got?”
it’s good though
December’s coming up, Pearl Harbour Day and all that.
I wonder if i can get Alex to flog my patented conspiracy theory that it was Americans flying disguised American planes that did all that, to give Roosevelt and excuse to get into the war, and that the Japanese carrier force was quietly at anchor in the Inland Sea the whole time?
Sign up now for the lucrative merchandising franchise in your area.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:captain_spalding said:
MAGA/Republicans now understand why they went down the toilet on Tuesday. From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
The bloke on the right. The look on his face.
“Really? We’ve sunk this far? This is the best excuse we’ve got?”
it’s good though
December’s coming up, Pearl Harbour Day and all that.
I wonder if i can get Alex to flog my patented conspiracy theory that it was Americans flying disguised American planes that did all that, to give Roosevelt and excuse to get into the war, and that the Japanese carrier force was quietly at anchor in the Inland Sea the whole time?
Sign up now for the lucrative merchandising franchise in your area.
I’m glad you posted that Captain because if I’d posted that they’d have just have nodded and said ‘nutter,’
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1NWGxYMLXi/
Senator McConnell’s remarks on the midterm results.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:it’s good though
December’s coming up, Pearl Harbour Day and all that.
I wonder if i can get Alex to flog my patented conspiracy theory that it was Americans flying disguised American planes that did all that, to give Roosevelt and excuse to get into the war, and that the Japanese carrier force was quietly at anchor in the Inland Sea the whole time?
Sign up now for the lucrative merchandising franchise in your area.
I’m glad you posted that Captain because if I’d posted that they’d have just have nodded and said ‘nutter,’
They’ll do that anyway, but they’ll at least be closer to the mark with me.
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1NWGxYMLXi/Senator McConnell’s remarks on the midterm results.
looks like my neighbour when he went off with the fairies.

Nice art
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1NWGxYMLXi/Senator McConnell’s remarks on the midterm results.
(Brian Blessed voice)
McConnell’s ALIVE?!
Neophyte said:
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1NWGxYMLXi/Senator McConnell’s remarks on the midterm results.
(Brian Blessed voice)
McConnell’s ALIVE?!
Technically.
Neophyte said:
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1NWGxYMLXi/Senator McConnell’s remarks on the midterm results.
(Brian Blessed voice)
McConnell’s ALIVE?!
only on the outside.
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1NWGxYMLXi/Senator McConnell’s remarks on the midterm results.
“…quick reaction…”
😆 🤣 😂 😹
Neophyte said:
dv said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1NWGxYMLXi/Senator McConnell’s remarks on the midterm results.
(Brian Blessed voice)
McConnell’s ALIVE?!
In much the same manner as Jeremy Bentham ‘resides’ at University College London.

ChrispenEvan said:
Proof that the Dems Texas win is a miracle, ordained by God.
ChrispenEvan said:
Ah yes, because every voter chooses a candidate by random selection and some pre-meditated deliberate choice.
party_pants said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Ah yes, because every voter chooses a candidate by random selection and NOT some pre-meditated deliberate choice.
fixed
party_pants said:
party_pants said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Ah yes, because every voter chooses a candidate by random selection and NOT some pre-meditated deliberate choice.
fixed
Let’s hope it’s satire.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
party_pants said:Ah yes, because every voter chooses a candidate by random selection and NOT some pre-meditated deliberate choice.
fixed
Let’s hope it’s satire.
That represents the probability of 2,900,000 people picking the same result in a single coin flip.
dv said:
Nice art
爱
Iowa’s skateboarding governor-elect. Plus original video of potato dude, Dogg Face.
Fleetwood Mac, Dreams.

captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
MAGA/Republicans now understand why they went down the toilet on Tuesday. From Jeff Tiedrich’s pages:
The bloke on the right. The look on his face.
“Really? We’ve sunk this far? This is the best excuse we’ve got?”
it’s good though
December’s coming up, Pearl Harbour Day and all that.
I wonder if i can get Alex to flog my patented conspiracy theory that it was Americans flying disguised American planes that did all that, to give Roosevelt and excuse to get into the war, and that the Japanese carrier force was quietly at anchor in the Inland Sea the whole time?
Sign up now for the lucrative merchandising franchise in your area.
though in seriousness we would think he doesn’t really care that much about the team sports and simply decided on whichever party was best able to carry through on his agenda of profiting uglily from whatever happens, oh did it cost the ussa dearly, too bad
Quite apart from the “land doesn’t vote” issue…
The other element of MAGAcopium seems to be weaponised innumeracy.

dv said:
Quite apart from the “land doesn’t vote” issue…The other element of MAGAcopium seems to be weaponised innumeracy.
Her numbers are right.
Her understanding is wrong.
dv said:
Quite apart from the “land doesn’t vote” issue…The other element of MAGAcopium seems to be weaponised innumeracy.
Watch out! Kii will chastise you that this has already been mentioned…
dv said:
Quite apart from the “land doesn’t vote” issue…
The other element of MAGAcopium seems to be weaponised innumeracy.
wait if it’s said 3 times here does it become correct though
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/11/07/politics/dana-white-trump-press-secretary
UFC CEO Dana White has declined the offer
Wise choice
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/11/07/politics/dana-white-trump-press-secretaryUFC CEO Dana White has declined the offer
Wise choice
Yeah, who’d want to become the public face of this administration’s unmitigated torrent of bare-faced lies.
party_pants said:
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/11/07/politics/dana-white-trump-press-secretaryUFC CEO Dana White has declined the offer
Wise choice
Yeah, who’d want to become the public face of this administration’s unmitigated torrent of bare-faced lies.
Will it be offered to the other Dana White?
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/11/07/politics/dana-white-trump-press-secretaryUFC CEO Dana White has declined the offer
Wise choice
Yeah, who’d want to become the public face of this administration’s unmitigated torrent of bare-faced lies.
Will it be offered to the other Dana White?
To do so would be an admission of error from the Orange Dunny Trumpet, so unlikely.
She might be so pissed off at this public embarrassment that she’d refuse it too, just out of spite.
There’s a third notable Dana White who is a “decluttering” blogger. No doubt the WH could do with some cleaning out.
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/11/07/politics/dana-white-trump-press-secretaryUFC CEO Dana White has declined the offer
Wise choice
The Eye of Souron is apparently now pointed at Scott Jennings
dv said:
There’s a third notable Dana White who is a “decluttering” blogger. No doubt the WH could do with some cleaning out.
Yes, but the people Dana White might think need to go may not be the people Trump thinks need to go…
Neophyte said:
dv said:
There’s a third notable Dana White who is a “decluttering” blogger. No doubt the WH could do with some cleaning out.
Yes, but the people Dana White might think need to go may not be the people Trump thinks need to go…
He/she would probably do a better job than Elon Musk at sacking people.
https://www.latintimes.com/19-year-old-sebastian-matta-maricopa-court-clerk-600981
Sebastian Matta graduated from high school last year. Now, the son of a Venezuelan mother and an Argentine father has defeated a former Republican state senator to become the next clerk of the Superior Court in Arizona’s most populous county and the fourth biggest in the U.S.
I was wondering how Colom is pronounced and it is
kə- LOHM
Like cologne but ending with an m
dv said:
https://www.latintimes.com/19-year-old-sebastian-matta-maricopa-court-clerk-600981Sebastian Matta graduated from high school last year. Now, the son of a Venezuelan mother and an Argentine father has defeated a former Republican state senator to become the next clerk of the Superior Court in Arizona’s most populous county and the fourth biggest in the U.S.


kii said:
dv said:
https://www.latintimes.com/19-year-old-sebastian-matta-maricopa-court-clerk-600981
Sebastian Matta graduated from high school last year. Now, the son of a Venezuelan mother and an Argentine father has defeated a former Republican state senator to become the next clerk of the Superior Court in Arizona’s most populous county and the fourth biggest in the U.S.
can’t he just have four walls wash basin and a bed
https://youtu.be/3z04zeL3J4s?si=Z4Ys75vKMPa7iW56
LegalEagles
The Courts thwarted Trump’s multiple attempts at election interference in 2026
Excerpted from this ABC news article
Tom Popinsky, a professor of government at Cornell University, says the president turning on one of his favourite appointments is not out of the question.
“You need to understand this in terms of President Trump imagining he’s running The Apprentice reality television show again, in which he gets the chance to make big news by saying he’s firing somebody,” Professor Popinsky said.
“I think the argument for this happening is that he would interpret this as a TV ratings bump. He would get a ratings bump for firing Hegseth.”
roughbarked said:
Excerpted from this ABC news articleTom Popinsky, a professor of government at Cornell University, says the president turning on one of his favourite appointments is not out of the question.
“You need to understand this in terms of President Trump imagining he’s running The Apprentice reality television show again, in which he gets the chance to make big news by saying he’s firing somebody,” Professor Popinsky said.
“I think the argument for this happening is that he would interpret this as a TV ratings bump. He would get a ratings bump for firing Hegseth.”
distractions
dv said:
https://youtu.be/3z04zeL3J4s?si=Z4Ys75vKMPa7iW56LegalEagles
The Courts thwarted Trump’s multiple attempts at election interference in 2026
imagine thinking that all of the US’s institutions were broken beyond repair.
A MAGA media civil war erupts over who’s to blame for the GOP’s thrashing
Trump’s allies cite the Iran war, the economy and one another after Republicans’ election rout exposed deep divisions in the MAGA media world.
November 4, 2026
By Scott Nover
Vice President JD Vance was resolute Wednesday: “The reason we lost is the war.”
President Donald Trump offered a more diffuse take to Fox News early that morning. Iran was partly to blame, but so were sky-high gas prices and the absence of his name from midterm ballots. (On Tuesday evening Trump wrote that Fox News bore some responsibility, for interviewing Democrats.)
These pronouncements from the Republican Party’s two standard-bearers did little to quell the finger-pointing from right-wing influencers and media personalities after the massive blue wave on election night.
By Wednesday morning, the party’s media firebrands sought not only answers but also scapegoats. Commentators and influential right-wing personalities offered sharply different accounts of what went wrong. Some, like Trump, blamed the war in Iran and the economy, while others pointed to Republican leaders in Congress or the president himself. Still others accused fellow conservatives of misleading voters and undermining the movement.
Their competing explanations — and their efforts to pin responsibility on one another — exposed deep fractures in an online ecosystem that has long been one of Trump’s most powerful political assets.
Jack Posobiec, who hosts “Human Events Daily” on the right-wing network Real America’s Voice, said voters disapproved of foreign involvement in Iran and Ukraine, and he suggested that Republicans focus on prices and wages rather than gross domestic product and the stock market.
John Solomon, a former Washington Post reporter who chairs Trump’s Government Transparency Task Force, blamed the high cost of living. “Americans punished Republicans for failing to finish the job of taming inflation and fixing an economy about to be transformed by artificial intelligence,” he wrote on his website Just the News.
Laura Loomer, the far-right influencer who boasts a close relationship with Trump, pointed to an array of culprits: She blamed TikTok and podcasts and foreigners and undocumented immigrants and what she called the “Islamic communist takeover of America.”
While most resisted blaming Trump directly, even as they fingered the war in Iran, podcast host Matt Walsh said the president is personally responsible for the midterms shellacking.
“Trump launched an unpopular and pointless war,” he wrote on X. “Gas prices are too high. People can’t afford groceries. Trump abandoned the American First message. This is why Republicans are getting crushed. It’s very simple.”
More blame was directed at Speaker of the House Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune for failing to enshrine Trump’s agenda into law. “The President issued over 200 executive orders, but Speaker Johnson and Leader Thune did virtually nothing to turn that agenda into lasting law,” said right-wing media personality Breanna Morello. Johnson said Wednesday that he won’t seek the House minority leader position.
Jim Hoft of the right-wing website Gateway Pundit blamed Thune for not passing the Save America Act, which would require stringent requirements for voters.
But many instead focused their ire on one another.
Joel Berry, the former managing editor of the satirical website Babylon Bee, railed against “every freak show podcaster” including Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens for “demoralizing” listeners. Their message, he said, was that “the GOP betrayed them, Trump is controlled by the ‘Epstein class,’ that their vote doesn’t matter, and that they have no agency or sovereignty over their lives or their nation’s politics.”
After the Daily Wire co-founder Ben Shapiro posted a meme responding to the poor election returns coming in for Republicans on Tuesday night, Sean Davis, the CEO and co-founder of the conservative outlet the Federalist, responded that Shapiro himself was at fault.
“Congrats. You set that fire. You demanded the war that torched the GOP this election. You said it would be easy. You said it would be over lickety-split.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2026/11/04/maga-media-civil-war-erupts-over-whos-blame-gops-thrashing/
Witty Rejoinder said:
A MAGA media civil war erupts over who’s to blame for the GOP’s thrashing
Trump’s allies cite the Iran war, the economy and one another after Republicans’ election rout exposed deep divisions in the MAGA media world.November 4, 2026
By Scott NoverVice President JD Vance was resolute Wednesday: “The reason we lost is the war.”
President Donald Trump offered a more diffuse take to Fox News early that morning. Iran was partly to blame, but so were sky-high gas prices and the absence of his name from midterm ballots. (On Tuesday evening Trump wrote that Fox News bore some responsibility, for interviewing Democrats.)
These pronouncements from the Republican Party’s two standard-bearers did little to quell the finger-pointing from right-wing influencers and media personalities after the massive blue wave on election night.
By Wednesday morning, the party’s media firebrands sought not only answers but also scapegoats. Commentators and influential right-wing personalities offered sharply different accounts of what went wrong. Some, like Trump, blamed the war in Iran and the economy, while others pointed to Republican leaders in Congress or the president himself. Still others accused fellow conservatives of misleading voters and undermining the movement.
Their competing explanations — and their efforts to pin responsibility on one another — exposed deep fractures in an online ecosystem that has long been one of Trump’s most powerful political assets.
Jack Posobiec, who hosts “Human Events Daily” on the right-wing network Real America’s Voice, said voters disapproved of foreign involvement in Iran and Ukraine, and he suggested that Republicans focus on prices and wages rather than gross domestic product and the stock market.
John Solomon, a former Washington Post reporter who chairs Trump’s Government Transparency Task Force, blamed the high cost of living. “Americans punished Republicans for failing to finish the job of taming inflation and fixing an economy about to be transformed by artificial intelligence,” he wrote on his website Just the News.
Laura Loomer, the far-right influencer who boasts a close relationship with Trump, pointed to an array of culprits: She blamed TikTok and podcasts and foreigners and undocumented immigrants and what she called the “Islamic communist takeover of America.”
While most resisted blaming Trump directly, even as they fingered the war in Iran, podcast host Matt Walsh said the president is personally responsible for the midterms shellacking.
“Trump launched an unpopular and pointless war,” he wrote on X. “Gas prices are too high. People can’t afford groceries. Trump abandoned the American First message. This is why Republicans are getting crushed. It’s very simple.”
More blame was directed at Speaker of the House Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune for failing to enshrine Trump’s agenda into law. “The President issued over 200 executive orders, but Speaker Johnson and Leader Thune did virtually nothing to turn that agenda into lasting law,” said right-wing media personality Breanna Morello. Johnson said Wednesday that he won’t seek the House minority leader position.
Jim Hoft of the right-wing website Gateway Pundit blamed Thune for not passing the Save America Act, which would require stringent requirements for voters.
But many instead focused their ire on one another.
Joel Berry, the former managing editor of the satirical website Babylon Bee, railed against “every freak show podcaster” including Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens for “demoralizing” listeners. Their message, he said, was that “the GOP betrayed them, Trump is controlled by the ‘Epstein class,’ that their vote doesn’t matter, and that they have no agency or sovereignty over their lives or their nation’s politics.”
After the Daily Wire co-founder Ben Shapiro posted a meme responding to the poor election returns coming in for Republicans on Tuesday night, Sean Davis, the CEO and co-founder of the conservative outlet the Federalist, responded that Shapiro himself was at fault.
“Congrats. You set that fire. You demanded the war that torched the GOP this election. You said it would be easy. You said it would be over lickety-split.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2026/11/04/maga-media-civil-war-erupts-over-whos-blame-gops-thrashing/
Does Trump do a silly walk and frequently remind people to not mention the war

roughbarked said:
as people say, that’s what they say when they try to cover up a shitty outburst
roughbarked said:
He did offer it to Zuul though

An interactive map illustrates how the 2026 US midterm election results would look across all 50 states if only specific demographic groups had voted, including men, women, racial groups, religious communities, age groups, independents, and voters from different income and education backgrounds.
The analysis is based on AP VoteCast surveys.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1120580003903469
dv said:
thanks we never actually learned about their native distribution before so this was a pretty interesting fact
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
thanks we never actually learned about their native distribution before so this was a pretty interesting fact
It’s also interesting to learn that, apparently, Venus fly traps anywhere in the world are considered to be US citizens/property.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:dv said:
thanks we never actually learned about their native distribution before so this was a pretty interesting fact
It’s also interesting to learn that, apparently, Venus fly traps anywhere in the world are considered to be US citizens/property.
Do you have a reference so I can understand why?
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:thanks we never actually learned about their native distribution before so this was a pretty interesting fact
It’s also interesting to learn that, apparently, Venus fly traps anywhere in the world are considered to be US citizens/property.
Do you have a reference so I can understand why?
Apologies. Mouth engaged before brain was ready.
I missed the word ‘wild’ in the text associated with the image.
Neophyte said:
An interactive map illustrates how the 2026 US midterm election results would look across all 50 states if only specific demographic groups had voted, including men, women, racial groups, religious communities, age groups, independents, and voters from different income and education backgrounds.
The analysis is based on AP VoteCast surveys.https://www.facebook.com/reel/1120580003903469
I saw that. It was interesting.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:It’s also interesting to learn that, apparently, Venus fly traps anywhere in the world are considered to be US citizens/property.
Do you have a reference so I can understand why?
Apologies. Mouth engaged before brain was ready.
I missed the word ‘wild’ in the text associated with the image.
LOL.
Ta.
:)
JD Vance remains the short odds favourite to be the Republican’s presidential nominee in 2028.
dv said:
JD Vance remains the short odds favourite to be the Republican’s presidential nominee in 2028.
I think Karoline Leavitt will put her hand up.
Remember you heard it here first.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
JD Vance remains the short odds favourite to be the Republican’s presidential nominee in 2028.I think Karoline Leavitt will put her hand up.
Remember you heard it here first.
Hasn’t got a hope.
Americans aren’t ready to vote for a woman to be President.
Republican party bosses will look at recent history, and conclude, Christ, even that dickhead Trump was able to beat two woman candidates. There’s no way were nominating woman for Prez.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
JD Vance remains the short odds favourite to be the Republican’s presidential nominee in 2028.I think Karoline Leavitt will put her hand up.
Remember you heard it here first.
Hasn’t got a hope.
Americans aren’t ready to vote for a woman to be President.
Republican party bosses will look at recent history, and conclude, Christ, even that dickhead Trump was able to beat two woman candidates. There’s no way were nominating woman for Prez.
Two of the last three US presidential elections had women running for the Democrats; both times they won the popular vote (just not the EC vote.)
btm said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:I think Karoline Leavitt will put her hand up.
Remember you heard it here first.
Hasn’t got a hope.
Americans aren’t ready to vote for a woman to be President.
Republican party bosses will look at recent history, and conclude, Christ, even that dickhead Trump was able to beat two woman candidates. There’s no way were nominating woman for Prez.
Two of the last three US presidential elections had women running for the Democrats; both times they won the popular vote (just not the EC vote.)
I’ll amend my declaration.
Many Americans are ready to vote for a woman to be President.
Unfortunately, the kind of people who get selected to vote where it really counts seem to not be ready.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
JD Vance remains the short odds favourite to be the Republican’s presidential nominee in 2028.I think Karoline Leavitt will put her hand up.
Remember you heard it here first.
I mean it is certainly possible.
According to the prediction markets, Vance has about a 30% of becoming president prior to the 2028 election. Would this aid his chances? If he had a long enough run to distinguish himself from the Trump era, maybe.
Trump brags about making billions of stock trades since his reelection.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-wealth-stock-market-trading-b3045815.html
dv said:
Trump brags about making billions of stock trades since his reelection.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-wealth-stock-market-trading-b3045815.html
Mind of a four-year-old.
And not a particularly bright four-year-old, either.
Dunno who this guy is, but damn, that’s a speech!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P58otkVgZ2U
Kingy said:
Dunno who this guy is, but damn, that’s a speech!https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P58otkVgZ2U
Marshan Camese (also known as Marshawn) is a New Orleans resident who went viral in May 2026 for a fiery, passionate speech delivered during a Louisiana state Senate hearing on redistricting.
oh wow some alimentary canals have finally found some politicians
Thomas Massie introduced eight articles of impeachment against Mr Hegseth,
Kingy said:
Dunno who this guy is, but damn, that’s a speech!https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P58otkVgZ2U
He’s brilliant!
ms spock said:
Kingy said:
Dunno who this guy is, but damn, that’s a speech!https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P58otkVgZ2U
He’s brilliant!
It would be a lot better if he spoke clearly in a language that sounded like English.
roughbarked said:
ms spock said:
Kingy said:
Dunno who this guy is, but damn, that’s a speech!https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P58otkVgZ2U
He’s brilliant!
It would be a lot better if he spoke clearly in a language that sounded like English.
He did.
ChrispenEvan said:
roughbarked said:
ms spock said:He’s brilliant!
It would be a lot better if he spoke clearly in a language that sounded like English.
He did.
I had to listen several times to work out much of what he said but then I have a unique hearing difficulty.
It is an accurate commentary.
roughbarked said:
ChrispenEvan said:
roughbarked said:It would be a lot better if he spoke clearly in a language that sounded like English.
He did.
I had to listen several times to work out much of what he said but then I have a unique hearing difficulty.
It is an accurate commentary.
there are subtitles.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
ChrispenEvan said:He did.
I had to listen several times to work out much of what he said but then I have a unique hearing difficulty.
It is an accurate commentary.
there are subtitles.
There are? I only just found out that this depends on where the window scroll is situated by accident..
roughbarked said:
ms spock said:
Kingy said:
Dunno who this guy is, but damn, that’s a speech!https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P58otkVgZ2U
He’s brilliant!
It would be a lot better if he spoke clearly in a language that sounded like English.
That’s racist bigoted shit. The average American wouldn’t understand your accent if you spoke casually either.

dv said:
Well played Qasim:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qasim_Rashid
Trump’s downfall
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19jdEvJtJ7/
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
ms spock said:He’s brilliant!
It would be a lot better if he spoke clearly in a language that sounded like English.
That’s racist bigoted shit. The average American wouldn’t understand your accent if you spoke casually either.
:) I speak more slowly.
Morgan Evelyn Cook.
Lauren Boebert is OUT!!! Eileen Laubacher wins in Colorado!
Eileen Laubacher is a retired U.S. Navy two-star rear admiral, 34-year military veteran, and the Democratic candidate who defeated Republican incumbent Lauren Boebert for Colorado’s 4th Congressional District in November 2026.
Apparently…
Raza Samo from Facebook…
“Here’s a fun fact Pete Hegseth probably doesn’t want everyone talking about: Nancy Lacore outranks him by an enormous margin when it comes to military experience and rank.
Nancy Lacore served 35 years in the United States Navy, rose to the rank of three-star Vice Admiral, and led nearly 60,000 sailors as Chief of the Navy Reserve.
Pete Hegseth, by comparison, retired from the Army National Guard as a Major.
Now Lacore is heading to Congress after flipping South Carolina’s First Congressional District, and she is set to become the highest-ranking female military officer ever to serve in the U.S. Congress.
Think about that. A woman with decades of military leadership experience, who served her country at the highest levels, is now preparing to bring that experience to Washington.
And here’s another interesting detail: Hegseth removed her from her Navy leadership position in 2025 without publicly providing a reason.”
Sometimes the people you push out of the room end up coming back with an even bigger platform. Congratulations, Admiral Lacore!
kii said:
Apparently…Raza Samo from Facebook…
“Here’s a fun fact Pete Hegseth probably doesn’t want everyone talking about: Nancy Lacore outranks him by an enormous margin when it comes to military experience and rank.
Nancy Lacore served 35 years in the United States Navy, rose to the rank of three-star Vice Admiral, and led nearly 60,000 sailors as Chief of the Navy Reserve.
Pete Hegseth, by comparison, retired from the Army National Guard as a Major.
Now Lacore is heading to Congress after flipping South Carolina’s First Congressional District, and she is set to become the highest-ranking female military officer ever to serve in the U.S. Congress.
Think about that. A woman with decades of military leadership experience, who served her country at the highest levels, is now preparing to bring that experience to Washington.
And here’s another interesting detail: Hegseth removed her from her Navy leadership position in 2025 without publicly providing a reason.”
Sometimes the people you push out of the room end up coming back with an even bigger platform. Congratulations, Admiral Lacore!
Phoaw, women in uniform!

Fixed
dv said:
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we thought they were drone bombed
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
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oops sorry, that was the wrong link.
This what I meant to post
Scott Colom (D) has won the Mississippi senator race, by about 4700 votes in the end.
https://youtu.be/J47QahFmsnU?si=kMdnvLCrdVr_45Ew
The American Ledger gives a summary of the state legislatures picked up by the Democrats at these elections.


The explanation is probably that indigenous folks 1) mainly vote Democrat and 2) disproportionately live in remote areas.
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The explanation is probably that indigenous folks 1) mainly vote Democrat and 2) disproportionately live in remote areas.
Fair comment.