quinces
the first photo shows them washed with a just picked ripe mandarin in front. the last photo shows them unwashed with the fur coat they have when on the tree.

harvest time here and ms pepe is ensuring they do not waste. maggie beer is a great source of info on q’s but this is an elizabeth david quince and orange preserve ‘cotignac orleanais’.

pepe said:

quinces
the first photo shows them washed with a just picked ripe mandarin in front. the last photo shows them unwashed with the fur coat they have when on the tree.

harvest time here and ms pepe is ensuring they do not waste. maggie beer is a great source of info on q’s but this is an elizabeth david quince and orange preserve ‘cotignac orleanais’.

Thank goodness, I was suffering withdrawals…

pepe said:

quinces
the first photo shows them washed with a just picked ripe mandarin in front. the last photo shows them unwashed with the fur coat they have when on the tree.

harvest time here and ms pepe is ensuring they do not waste. maggie beer is a great source of info on q’s but this is an elizabeth david quince and orange preserve ‘cotignac orleanais’.

‘cotignac orleanais’

Well I went looking for ‘cotignac orleanais’ so I’v been all over the net. A bit of French can lead to wonderful places. thanks Pepe.

feeding dinetta’s addicton LOL
P1 – sunflowers capturing the last of the summer sun
P2 & P3 – ladybirds as they grow up and don their famous colours

pepe said:

feeding dinetta’s addicton LOL
P1 – sunflowers capturing the last of the summer sun
P2 & P3 – ladybirds as they grow up and don their famous colours

Thanks Pepe…you forgot the pink rosebud! What will you be doing with the sunflower seeds, are they some for the chickens and some for the pigeons?

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

feeding dinetta’s addicton LOL
P1 – sunflowers capturing the last of the summer sun
P2 & P3 – ladybirds as they grow up and don their famous colours

Thanks Pepe…you forgot the pink rosebud! What will you be doing with the sunflower seeds, are they some for the chickens and some for the pigeons?

the chooks will get the sunflowers – the pigeons can fly and take what they want of the garden.
the pink rosebud is there if you go forward. not the best lighting on that shot.

cya l8r.

i bought four chooks for $7 each at the local market. they laid three eggs next day but today i only found two eggs – the slackers.

most the summer garden has just finished. the beans are all pulled but tomatoes, zuchs, cueys, basil still need to be tidied up.

brassicas, fennel and peas are looking good in the pea pavilion and carrots, turnips, celery and the first load of peas are being picked now.

P1 – the new path to the front door where there was dirt before.
P2 – pomegranates splitting – we have preserved all the quinces and most of the tomatoes but juicing these takes time and we are running out of time.
P3 – some of the new chooks

the last photo shows some of our preserves but preserving pumpkin, carob and citrus is going to be difficult, time wise, this year.

Cool pics : )
How do you preserve your pumpkin, carob and citrus anyway?

pepe said:

P1 – the new path to the front door where there was dirt before.
P2 – pomegranates splitting – we have preserved all the quinces and most of the tomatoes but juicing these takes time and we are running out of time.
P3 – some of the new chooks

The new path is just in time for your Mediterranean winter…good work!

The chooks look a bit wary…“what happened to our world? what are those funny little birds that say coo-coo?”

I notice you have wattle blooming already…ours won’t start until late May and continues through June…

pepe said:

the last photo shows some of our preserves but preserving pumpkin, carob and citrus is going to be difficult, time wise, this year.

It all looks delicious…specially those bottles up the back!

Happy Potter said:

Cool pics : )
How do you preserve your pumpkin, carob and citrus anyway?

pumpkin – whole or as frozen soup
carob – as powder
mandies – as a frozen juice or some sort of alcoholic drink

i’m not sure – and that’s one of the reasons it would take longer than we’ve got – to look it up, agree on an approach and finally do summin.

the red capsicums are going to waste because i don’t eat jam and that’s the only preserving recipe we’ve found.

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

P1 – the new path to the front door where there was dirt before.
P2 – pomegranates splitting – we have preserved all the quinces and most of the tomatoes but juicing these takes time and we are running out of time.
P3 – some of the new chooks

The new path is just in time for your Mediterranean winter…good work! The chooks look a bit wary…“what happened to our world? what are those funny little birds that say coo-coo?”

I notice you have wattle blooming already…ours won’t start until late May and continues through June…

the paving is excellent for winter but i’ve got another 30 cu.m. to do.
the smell of the wattle is great at present.

pepe said:

the red capsicums are going to waste because i don’t eat jam and that’s the only preserving recipe we’ve found.

Can’t you roast them and preserve in oyl?

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

the red capsicums are going to waste because i don’t eat jam and that’s the only preserving recipe we’ve found.

Can’t you roast them and preserve in oyl?

maybe. jamie oliver does pull them out of jars – doesn’t he.

pepe said:

Happy Potter said:

Cool pics : )
How do you preserve your pumpkin, carob and citrus anyway?

pumpkin – whole or as frozen soup
carob – as powder
mandies – as a frozen juice or some sort of alcoholic drink

i’m not sure – and that’s one of the reasons it would take longer than we’ve got – to look it up, agree on an approach and finally do summin.

the red capsicums are going to waste because i don’t eat jam and that’s the only preserving recipe we’ve found.

I chop capsicums into bits, about inch size, and pack into a zip lock bag, expel as much air as possible and throw into the freezer. Can be chopped smaller if needed, still frozen.
Use straight from freezer in casseroles /soups ect.

pepe said:

P1 – the new path to the front door where there was dirt before.
P2 – pomegranates splitting – we have preserved all the quinces and most of the tomatoes but juicing these takes time and we are running out of time.
P3 – some of the new chooks

For any excess pomegranites.

http://www.cairnsrecipes.com/2011/01/28/home-made-grenadine/#more-1009

pepe said:

Happy Potter said:

Cool pics : )
How do you preserve your pumpkin, carob and citrus anyway?

pumpkin – whole or as frozen soup
carob – as powder
mandies – as a frozen juice or some sort of alcoholic drink

i’m not sure – and that’s one of the reasons it would take longer than we’ve got – to look it up, agree on an approach and finally do summin.

the red capsicums are going to waste because i don’t eat jam and that’s the only preserving recipe we’ve found.

Char the capsicums over a flame , or in a very hot oven, until the skin blackens. put in a bag and allow to cool. Slip the skin off, deseed, and bottle covered in olive oil.

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

the red capsicums are going to waste because i don’t eat jam and that’s the only preserving recipe we’ve found.

Can’t you roast them and preserve in oyl?

snap

bubba louie said:

Char the capsicums over a flame , or in a very hot oven, until the skin blackens. put in a bag and allow to cool. Slip the skin off, deseed, and bottle covered in olive oil.

Mmmmmmmmm

pepe said:

i bought four chooks for $7 each at the local market. they laid three eggs next day but today i only found two eggs – the slackers.

most the summer garden has just finished. the beans are all pulled but tomatoes, zuchs, cueys, basil still need to be tidied up.

brassicas, fennel and peas are looking good in the pea pavilion and carrots, turnips, celery and the first load of peas are being picked now.

I’d like to find a friend for Julia.

pepe said:

P1 – the new path to the front door where there was dirt before.
P2 – pomegranates splitting – we have preserved all the quinces and most of the tomatoes but juicing these takes time and we are running out of time.
P3 – some of the new chooks

$3 will buy you a Pomegranate in the shops. $11 will buy you 5 bananas. I saw Quinces in the shop for the first time in Townsville.

On one of my Bananas, I have around 7 hands of maybe 15 individual bananas per hand.

pepe said:

the last photo shows some of our preserves but preserving pumpkin, carob and citrus is going to be difficult, time wise, this year.

Looks like one of our pumikins. The possums have eaten all the old sweet potatoes. I ate pickled cucumber in my sandwich today.

painmaster said:

$3 will buy you a Pomegranate in the shops. $11 will buy you 5 bananas. I saw Quinces in the shop for the first time in Townsville.

On one of my Bananas, I have around 7 hands of maybe 15 individual bananas per hand.

Set up security cameras, lol!

I’d like to find a friend for Julia.
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my rooster ‘aspro’ is too busy at present i’m afraid – he’s running around trying to reestablish the order he maintained when he had 4 hens – now with 8 hens life is chaotic – he walked straight into me during feeding session and didn’t have time to be scared. bloody hens are fighting each other when that’s obviously his job – they’re eating his choice scraps and not waiting for his clucking before demolishing slugs etc. – life is hectic in the harem.

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$3 will buy you a Pomegranate in the shops. $11 will buy you 5 bananas. I saw Quinces in the shop for the first time in Townsville. On one of my Bananas, I have around 7 hands of maybe 15 individual bananas per hand.

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bannanas are worth a fortune down here but i spose by the time yours ripen the price will be down.
sweet potato and ginger are the go – both are getting big raps in the health magazines and the smell of fresh peeled ginger is heaven.

pepe said:

I’d like to find a friend for Julia.
———————————
my rooster ‘aspro’ is too busy at present i’m afraid – he’s running around trying to reestablish the order he maintained when he had 4 hens – now with 8 hens life is chaotic – he walked straight into me during feeding session and didn’t have time to be scared. bloody hens are fighting each other when that’s obviously his job – they’re eating his choice scraps and not waiting for his clucking before demolishing slugs etc. – life is hectic in the harem.

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hee hee! Poor Aspro!

pepe said:

I’d like to find a friend for Julia.
———————————
my rooster ‘aspro’ is too busy at present i’m afraid – he’s running around trying to reestablish the order he maintained when he had 4 hens – now with 8 hens life is chaotic – he walked straight into me during feeding session and didn’t have time to be scared. bloody hens are fighting each other when that’s obviously his job – they’re eating his choice scraps and not waiting for his clucking before demolishing slugs etc. – life is hectic in the harem.

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Aw poor aspro, more family to sort lol.

My eggbert is having a similar stressful time because he has an oddball family member that he can’t quite work out. He thinks Max is a bloody humongous yellow chook and tries to round him up. The dog is pertified of him, hehe.

Happy Potter said:

My eggbert is having a similar stressful time because he has an oddball family member that he can’t quite work out. He thinks Max is a bloody humongous yellow chook and tries to round him up. The dog is pertified of him, hehe.

That would be a first for Max!!

Happy Potter said:

pepe said:

I’d like to find a friend for Julia.
———————————
my rooster ‘aspro’ is too busy at present i’m afraid – he’s running around trying to reestablish the order he maintained when he had 4 hens – now with 8 hens life is chaotic – he walked straight into me during feeding session and didn’t have time to be scared. bloody hens are fighting each other when that’s obviously his job – they’re eating his choice scraps and not waiting for his clucking before demolishing slugs etc. – life is hectic in the harem.

—————————————-

Aw poor aspro, more family to sort lol.

My eggbert is having a similar stressful time because he has an oddball family member that he can’t quite work out. He thinks Max is a bloody humongous yellow chook and tries to round him up. The dog is pertified of him, hehe.

oh that is a classic! lol!

pepe said:

I’d like to find a friend for Julia.
———————————
my rooster ‘aspro’ is too busy at present i’m afraid – he’s running around trying to reestablish the order he maintained when he had 4 hens – now with 8 hens life is chaotic – he walked straight into me during feeding session and didn’t have time to be scared. bloody hens are fighting each other when that’s obviously his job – they’re eating his choice scraps and not waiting for his clucking before demolishing slugs etc. – life is hectic in the harem.

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nah, I was after another female companion for Julia. She’s so full of testosterone, she don’t need a Rooster!

P1 – i’m still trying to get good shots of the superb blue wren and grey shrike thrush but they are elusive. the shrike thrush was singing in the almond tree last weekend and despite hearing his twelve floral songs we could not see him.

P2 – most of the ingredients for cornish pasties – picked this morning. i need to plant more turnips, carrots and peas but the paving job is taking most my time.

pepe said:

P1 – i’m still trying to get good shots of the superb blue wren and grey shrike thrush but they are elusive. the shrike thrush was singing in the almond tree last weekend and despite hearing his twelve floral songs we could not see him.

P2 – most of the ingredients for cornish pasties – picked this morning. i need to plant more turnips, carrots and peas but the paving job is taking most my time.

Twelve floral songs?

Good look for the cornish pasties so far…maybe the garden could be planted with these things, just not fussed over?

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

P1 – i’m still trying to get good shots of the superb blue wren and grey shrike thrush but they are elusive. the shrike thrush was singing in the almond tree last weekend and despite hearing his twelve floral songs we could not see him.

P2 – most of the ingredients for cornish pasties – picked this morning. i need to plant more turnips, carrots and peas but the paving job is taking most my time.

Twelve floral songs?

Good look for the cornish pasties so far…maybe the garden could be planted with these things, just not fussed over?

the thrush just kept singing while we looked for it – yet despite the directional properties of sound we could not see it – even standing under the tree.

the garden needs work – it will have to wait.

pepe said:

P1 – i’m still trying to get good shots of the superb blue wren and grey shrike thrush but they are elusive. the shrike thrush was singing in the almond tree last weekend and despite hearing his twelve floral songs we could not see him.

P2 – most of the ingredients for cornish pasties – picked this morning. i need to plant more turnips, carrots and peas but the paving job is taking most my time.

OOh, yum, love cornish pasties! Never had a homemade one though. May have to plant an idea in Mr Bon’s mind.

pepe said:

P1 – i’m still trying to get good shots of the superb blue wren and grey shrike thrush but they are elusive. the shrike thrush was singing in the almond tree last weekend and despite hearing his twelve floral songs we could not see him.

P2 – most of the ingredients for cornish pasties – picked this morning. i need to plant more turnips, carrots and peas but the paving job is taking most my time.

Cute little Wren.

g’ay long time no read
i’ve no chance of catching the flow so i’ll interrupt with a totally irrelevant intrusion.

P1 – a moth – three of which were doing things on the front door this evening.
P2 – what is it? i wouldn’t have known – but its growing in my garden at present
P3 – the lemons are on their tree again

bb shortly – the missus is tossing me off the puter for a tick

There’s a word for you,,, we are awaiting your input…will put the thread up tomorrow morning

pepe said:

g’ay long time no read
i’ve no chance of catching the flow so i’ll interrupt with a totally irrelevant intrusion.

P1 – a moth – three of which were doing things on the front door this evening.
P2 – what is it? i wouldn’t have known – but its growing in my garden at present
P3 – the lemons are on their tree again

bb shortly – the missus is tossing me off the puter for a tick

we have a similar moth here. And there’d be plenty of them.

b) dandelion?

roughbarked said:

b) dandelion?

I think it might be…

painmaster said:

pepe said:

g’ay long time no read
i’ve no chance of catching the flow so i’ll interrupt with a totally irrelevant intrusion.

P1 – a moth – three of which were doing things on the front door this evening.
P2 – what is it? i wouldn’t have known – but its growing in my garden at present
P3 – the lemons are on their tree again

bb shortly – the missus is tossing me off the puter for a tick

we have a similar moth here. And there’d be plenty of them.

Lots of them here as well.

roughbarked said:

b) dandelion?

That’s what I thought too.

Dinetta said:

There’s a word for you,,,

ta – altho – i hope it’s not ‘hopeless’

roughbarked said:

b) dandelion?

nope – but it is a kind of wild weed in the hedgerows of italy

pomolo said:

painmaster said:

pepe said:

g’ay long time no read
i’ve no chance of catching the flow so i’ll interrupt with a totally irrelevant intrusion.

P1 – a moth – three of which were doing things on the front door this evening.
P2 – what is it? i wouldn’t have known – but its growing in my garden at present
P3 – the lemons are on their tree again

bb shortly – the missus is tossing me off the puter for a tick

we have a similar moth here. And there’d be plenty of them.

Lots of them here as well.

funny that – youse are a long way away and yet the insect tides are sometimes similar.

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

b) dandelion?

nope – but it is a kind of wild weed in the hedgerows of italy

Looks like some kind of Dock to me.

pepe said:

pomolo said:

painmaster said:

we have a similar moth here. And there’d be plenty of them.

Lots of them here as well.

funny that – youse are a long way away and yet the insect tides are sometimes similar.

I have the same moth here and my chicory looks different. I’d assume that some of your weeds are more lush than ours.

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

pomolo said:

Lots of them here as well.

funny that – youse are a long way away and yet the insect tides are sometimes similar.

I have the same moth here and my chicory looks different. I’d assume that some of your weeds are more lush than ours.

chicory is correct. it does look a lot like a skinny beetroot.

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

funny that – youse are a long way away and yet the insect tides are sometimes similar.

I have the same moth here and my chicory looks different. I’d assume that some of your weeds are more lush than ours.

chicory is correct. it does look a lot like a skinny beetroot.

You see in our full sun it needs a lot of water underneath and the leaves form a flat rosette.

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

I have the same moth here and my chicory looks different. I’d assume that some of your weeds are more lush than ours.

chicory is correct. it does look a lot like a skinny beetroot.

You see in our full sun it needs a lot of water underneath and the leaves form a flat rosette.

do you get a root – suitable foe use as a coffee substitute?

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

chicory is correct. it does look a lot like a skinny beetroot.

You see in our full sun it needs a lot of water underneath and the leaves form a flat rosette.

do you get a root – suitable foe use as a coffee substitute?

foe = for – and stop thinking of wisecracks LOL

how do you use the chicory?

pepe said:

pomolo said:

painmaster said:

we have a similar moth here. And there’d be plenty of them.

Lots of them here as well.

funny that – youse are a long way away and yet the insect tides are sometimes similar.

Some of our plants grow in both places too.

Pepe do you have some good tofu recipes, that don’t use too much oil?

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

chicory is correct. it does look a lot like a skinny beetroot.

You see in our full sun it needs a lot of water underneath and the leaves form a flat rosette.

do you get a root – suitable foe use as a coffee substitute?

Only if you leave it long enough. You can also eat the tops too.

The commonest usage is in Italian cooking it is also known as minestra(which is another word for weeds). Minestra fasoulu is beans and chiccorio.

the word minestrone comes from a similar root.

Beans Minestrone Recipe
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bubba louie said:

Pepe do you have some good tofu recipes, that don’t use too much oil?

not a problem – we have two tofu specific books plus not fat, low GI recipes. what would you like – sauce, soup or salad?

“tofu lends itself to all methods of preparation and cooking. cut tofu into strips or cubes for deep, shallow or stir frying, grate it and shape into burgers or use in place of mince meat in a chilli or bolognese sauce; slice it for sandwiches or salads, liquidise it for a sauce, drink or dressing, or chop it and add to a casserole, quiche or pie – “

“the tofu for health cookbook – recipes with style and taste” wendy sweetser – new burlington books london 2001

Cooks.com – Recipes – Minestra *
… it minestra. That’s what it is called in Italy. We served it thick like a stew.
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ok RB – i get the idea
- the leaves are another edible salad ingredient/spinach substitute.

i am eating grated beetroot and beetroot leaves now – ideas i got from you i believe – and they do come in handy because lettuce and spinach are not always in abundance.

pepe said:

Cooks.com – Recipes – Minestra *
… it minestra. That’s what it is called in Italy. We served it thick like a stew.
www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1–00,minestra,FF.html – Proxy – Highlight
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ok RB – i get the idea
- the leaves are another edible salad ingredient/spinach substitute.

i am eating grated beetroot and beetroot leaves now – ideas i got from you i believe – and they do come in handy because lettuce and spinach are not always in abundance.

yep you probably did get the beetroot tips from me ;) I prefer my beetroot grated and I do eat the leaves. The leaves of chickory however may need some of the chelates washed out first. I believe the first wtare of cooking is thrown away, the second water is kept as a breakfast tonic drink. the cooked leaves are of course eaten as like spinach but they are still tough and fibrous by comparison.. Chickory is almost cooked to mush yet is still stringy and still bitter. However it is also quite tasty done the way the Italians do it..

pepe said:

bubba louie said:

Pepe do you have some good tofu recipes, that don’t use too much oil?

not a problem – we have two tofu specific books plus not fat, low GI recipes. what would you like – sauce, soup or salad?

“tofu lends itself to all methods of preparation and cooking. cut tofu into strips or cubes for deep, shallow or stir frying, grate it and shape into burgers or use in place of mince meat in a chilli or bolognese sauce; slice it for sandwiches or salads, liquidise it for a sauce, drink or dressing, or chop it and add to a casserole, quiche or pie – “

“the tofu for health cookbook – recipes with style and taste” wendy sweetser – new burlington books london 2001

Main meal recipes would be good. Something that might appeal to meat eaters.

I’ll hit the library tomorrow as well.

pepe said:

Cooks.com – Recipes – Minestra *
… it minestra. That’s what it is called in Italy. We served it thick like a stew.
www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1–00,minestra,FF.html – Proxy – Highlight
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ok RB – i get the idea
- the leaves are another edible salad ingredient/spinach substitute.

i am eating grated beetroot and beetroot leaves now – ideas i got from you i believe – and they do come in handy because lettuce and spinach are not always in abundance.

Raw beetroot is yummy, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that too much of the raw leaves aren’t good. Too much oxalic acid maybe? I think the same goes for excessive amounts of raw spinach.

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

Cooks.com – Recipes – Minestra *
… it minestra. That’s what it is called in Italy. We served it thick like a stew.
www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1–00,minestra,FF.html – Proxy – Highlight
———————————-

ok RB – i get the idea
- the leaves are another edible salad ingredient/spinach substitute.

i am eating grated beetroot and beetroot leaves now – ideas i got from you i believe – and they do come in handy because lettuce and spinach are not always in abundance.

Raw beetroot is yummy, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that too much of the raw leaves aren’t good. Too much oxalic acid maybe? I think the same goes for excessive amounts of raw spinach.

oops did I say chelates before? I did mean oxalates.

Main meal recipes would be good. Something that might appeal to meat eaters.

I’ll hit the library tomorrow as well.
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the ones we have tried and would cook again are

1. roasted vegetable and tofu couscous with harissa sauce
2 vegetarian paella (serves 6-8, 361 calories)

there is also
3. shiitake, ginger and tofu hokkien noodles serves 4 , 1631 kJ (390 calories), 12g fat, 2g saturated)

see you in da morning

pepe said:

Main meal recipes would be good. Something that might appeal to meat eaters.

I’ll hit the library tomorrow as well.
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the ones we have tried and would cook again are

1. roasted vegetable and tofu couscous with harissa sauce
2 vegetarian paella (serves 6-8, 361 calories)

there is also
3. shiitake, ginger and tofu hokkien noodles serves 4 , 1631 kJ (390 calories), 12g fat, 2g saturated)

see you in da morning

I remember having a mate arrive when we were about to serve a lentil loaf.. He sat down and ate with us then said, “That was lovely but I thought you guys were trying to be vegetarians. You can’t tell me there wasn’t meat in that.”

My worry and strife, a long time vegetarian was sspicious when I tried to feed her pasta fasoulu or minestra fasoulu as she said the Italiands put meat in that!

I am still having trouble convincing her that it is all about the beans.

pepe said:

Main meal recipes would be good. Something that might appeal to meat eaters.

I’ll hit the library tomorrow as well.
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the ones we have tried and would cook again are

1. roasted vegetable and tofu couscous with harissa sauce
2 vegetarian paella (serves 6-8, 361 calories)

there is also
3. shiitake, ginger and tofu hokkien noodles serves 4 , 1631 kJ (390 calories), 12g fat, 2g saturated)

see you in da morning

Recipes????

ROASTED VEGETABLE AND TOFU COUSCOUS WITH HARISSA SAUCE

harissa is a north african chilli sauce that is excellent served with pasta and rice dishes or with roasted meat and fish. any that is left over can be stored in a screw top jar in the refridgerator for a week

Ingredients – serves 4

for the hariisa sauce
2 red sweet peppers, 3 large red chilli peppers, 2 fat garlic cloves peeled and chopped, 2 tsp cummin seed, 1 Tspn ground coriander, 4 Tspn olive oil

for the couscous
12 baby carrots, 3 Tspn olive oil, 1 yellow sweet pepper seeded and cut into chunks, 1 eggplant peeled and cut into small pieces, 100gms chestnut mushrooms cut into halves, 1 red onion peeled cut into wedges and layers separated, 50gm blanched almonds, 200 gms smoked tofu cubed, 200gms couscous, half tsp saffron threads

method

1. for the sauce, grill the peppers and chillies until the skins are scorched all over. cover, leave to cool, then peel off the skins, deseed and roughly chop the flesh. place the peppers, chillies, garlic, cummin and coriander in a food processor and blend until smooth. add the olive oil and process again until combined.
2. preheat oven to 200C
3. blanch the carrots in a pan of boiling water for 5 mins, then drain. spoon the olive oil into a shallow roasting tin and place in the oven until very hot. add the vegetables and turn to coat them in oil.
4. roast for 20 minutes, then scatter the almond and tofu cubes amongst the vegetables and cook for another 10 to 15 mins or until the veges are tender and brown at the edges.
5. while the veges are cooking, put the couscous and saffron threads in a heat proof bowl and pour boiling water over them to cover. cover and leave to stand for 10 mins or until the water has been absorbed. transfer the couscous to a serving dish and fork up the grains to separate them. spoon the vege mixture on top and spoon either warm or cold harissa sauce over it or serve the sauce separately.

500cla, 13g protein, 30g fat (satur 4), 46g carbohydrate, 7g fibre, 28mg of sodium and no cholesterol

pepe said:

ROASTED VEGETABLE AND TOFU COUSCOUS WITH HARISSA SAUCE

harissa is a north african chilli sauce that is excellent served with pasta and rice dishes or with roasted meat and fish. any that is left over can be stored in a screw top jar in the refridgerator for a week

Ingredients – serves 4

for the hariisa sauce
2 red sweet peppers, 3 large red chilli peppers, 2 fat garlic cloves peeled and chopped, 2 tsp cummin seed, 1 Tspn ground coriander, 4 Tspn olive oil

for the couscous
12 baby carrots, 3 Tspn olive oil, 1 yellow sweet pepper seeded and cut into chunks, 1 eggplant peeled and cut into small pieces, 100gms chestnut mushrooms cut into halves, 1 red onion peeled cut into wedges and layers separated, 50gm blanched almonds, 200 gms smoked tofu cubed, 200gms couscous, half tsp saffron threads

method

1. for the sauce, grill the peppers and chillies until the skins are scorched all over. cover, leave to cool, then peel off the skins, deseed and roughly chop the flesh. place the peppers, chillies, garlic, cummin and coriander in a food processor and blend until smooth. add the olive oil and process again until combined.
2. preheat oven to 200C
3. blanch the carrots in a pan of boiling water for 5 mins, then drain. spoon the olive oil into a shallow roasting tin and place in the oven until very hot. add the vegetables and turn to coat them in oil.
4. roast for 20 minutes, then scatter the almond and tofu cubes amongst the vegetables and cook for another 10 to 15 mins or until the veges are tender and brown at the edges.
5. while the veges are cooking, put the couscous and saffron threads in a heat proof bowl and pour boiling water over them to cover. cover and leave to stand for 10 mins or until the water has been absorbed. transfer the couscous to a serving dish and fork up the grains to separate them. spoon the vege mixture on top and spoon either warm or cold harissa sauce over it or serve the sauce separately.

500cla, 13g protein, 30g fat (satur 4), 46g carbohydrate, 7g fibre, 28mg of sodium and no cholesterol

I’ve never seen Chestnut Mushrooms up here??

I’ve never seen Chestnut Mushrooms up here??
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have you looked?
little brown things from china – s’marts and asian s’marts

pepe said:

I’ve never seen Chestnut Mushrooms up here??
——
have you looked?
little brown things from china – s’marts and asian s’marts

In cans?

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

I’ve never seen Chestnut Mushrooms up here??
——
have you looked?
little brown things from china – s’marts and asian s’marts

In cans?

Obviously not. I googles and they don’t look familiar but I’ll look for them.

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

I’ve never seen Chestnut Mushrooms up here??
——
have you looked?
little brown things from china – s’marts and asian s’marts

In cans?

Obviously not. I googles and they don’t look familiar but I’ll look for them.

I had a look too and I think we know them by another name up this way. Darned if I can remember what the name is though.

we’ve been to melbourne and back – delayed for one day by an ash plume.

some piccies coming
and g’ay to those not working today – or those working but intermittently looking in

a bit of building first
P1 – the manse of mel’s main cathedral – better than the cathedral
P2 – myer music bowl – outdoor entertainment is a good idea
P3 – and P4 – a little pavilion in the bot park – all the column capitals are carved stone staghorns? – anyrate is very nice and appropriate

P! – autumn leaves are fantastic when they blanket everything
P2&3 – guess these two trees – the big black trunk at the rear and the gnarly one in front

pepe said:

P! – autumn leaves are fantastic when they blanket everything
P2&3 – guess these two trees – the big black trunk at the rear and the gnarly one in front

All that lovely mulch underfoot LOL! Nature’s way of providing for the trees when the spring melts come, I reckon…so the Yanks go and rake it all up and burn it…sheesh

mel in the early morning fog. we stayed on southbank all the time. we never saw the burbs – just highrise hell – but it is interpersed with some reasonable people and places. the wife was listening to the dalai larma whilst i wondered the streets.

…last time I was there (in the cbd), the previously thriving cbd was less than…as most of the suburbanites chose to shop in the new suburban malls…this was 1980…and windy! like concrete canyons!

I couldn’t believe the difference four years had made…

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

P! – autumn leaves are fantastic when they blanket everything
P2&3 – guess these two trees – the big black trunk at the rear and the gnarly one in front

All that lovely mulch underfoot LOL! Nature’s way of providing for the trees when the spring melts come, I reckon…so the Yanks go and rake it all up and burn it…sheesh

autumn is late here too – this whole year is weird (time wise) but good. the gardens to the east of st kilda road are very large and they were all planted in the 1880s – so big old deciduous trees do drop heaps of leaves. they are well used too – heaps of people walking, running and just wandering.

pepe said:

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

P! – autumn leaves are fantastic when they blanket everything
P2&3 – guess these two trees – the big black trunk at the rear and the gnarly one in front

All that lovely mulch underfoot LOL! Nature’s way of providing for the trees when the spring melts come, I reckon…so the Yanks go and rake it all up and burn it…sheesh

autumn is late here too – this whole year is weird (time wise) but good. the gardens to the east of st kilda road are very large and they were all planted in the 1880s – so big old deciduous trees do drop heaps of leaves. they are well used too – heaps of people walking, running and just wandering.

The palm tree I’m no expert at but it is a palm tree.

the other could be one of several species from Myrtacae

Dinetta said:

…last time I was there (in the cbd), the previously thriving cbd was less than…as most of the suburbanites chose to shop in the new suburban malls…this was 1980…and windy! like concrete canyons!

I couldn’t believe the difference four years had made…

i admire the renewal – but not the greed.
obviously a lot of wealthy people have invested huge sums of money to develop the southbank of the yarra. the fact that the central part of town is being renewed and revitalised is great. but the obvious greed and egotistical competition between some of the wealthy thugs has resulted in windy canyons that are exactly the same as chicago, hongkong or a dozen other cities.
melbourne now has 3.75 million people in it.

pepe said:

Dinetta said:

…last time I was there (in the cbd), the previously thriving cbd was less than…as most of the suburbanites chose to shop in the new suburban malls…this was 1980…and windy! like concrete canyons!

I couldn’t believe the difference four years had made…

i admire the renewal – but not the greed.
obviously a lot of wealthy people have invested huge sums of money to develop the southbank of the yarra. the fact that the central part of town is being renewed and revitalised is great. but the obvious greed and egotistical competition between some of the wealthy thugs has resulted in windy canyons that are exactly the same as chicago, hongkong or a dozen other cities.
melbourne now has 3.75 million people in it.

I know a nice quiet valley in East Ringwood.. ;)

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

Dinetta said:

All that lovely mulch underfoot LOL! Nature’s way of providing for the trees when the spring melts come, I reckon…so the Yanks go and rake it all up and burn it…sheesh

autumn is late here too – this whole year is weird (time wise) but good. the gardens to the east of st kilda road are very large and they were all planted in the 1880s – so big old deciduous trees do drop heaps of leaves. they are well used too – heaps of people walking, running and just wandering.

The palm tree I’m no expert at but it is a palm tree. the other could be one of several species from Myrtacae

no it is not a palm – but a pine – and that will make it easy as australia doesn’t have many
yes the family myrtacae is correct – but its a big family.

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

autumn is late here too – this whole year is weird (time wise) but good. the gardens to the east of st kilda road are very large and they were all planted in the 1880s – so big old deciduous trees do drop heaps of leaves. they are well used too – heaps of people walking, running and just wandering.

The palm tree I’m no expert at but it is a palm tree. the other could be one of several species from Myrtacae

no it is not a palm – but a pine – and that will make it easy as australia doesn’t have many

Aracuria then?

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

The palm tree I’m no expert at but it is a palm tree. the other could be one of several species from Myrtacae

no it is not a palm – but a pine – and that will make it easy as australia doesn’t have many

Aracuria then?

yep – new south wales origin

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

no it is not a palm – but a pine – and that will make it easy as australia doesn’t have many

Aracuria then?

yep – new south wales origin

the araucaria is nsw
the pine is qbilly

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

no it is not a palm – but a pine – and that will make it easy as australia doesn’t have many

Aracuria then?

yep – new south wales origin

cunninghamii?

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

Aracuria then?

yep – new south wales origin

cunninghamii?

nope
are you guessing at the pine or the other tree? the other tree is family myrtacae – araucaria……..
you’re saying hoop pine – for the pine at the rear of photo – are you?

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

yep – new south wales origin

cunninghamii?

nope
are you guessing at the pine or the other tree? the other tree is family myrtacae – araucaria……..
you’re saying hoop pine – for the pine at the rear of photo – are you?

hoop pine was a guess and also because it was the only NSW possibility floating in my head.

dunno at the moment but you have already given the game away

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

cunninghamii?

nope
are you guessing at the pine or the other tree? the other tree is family myrtacae – araucaria……..
you’re saying hoop pine – for the pine at the rear of photo – are you?

As to the myrtle

if it is a native.. it could be Angophera

hoop pine was a guess and also because it was the only NSW possibility floating in my head.

dunno at the moment but you have already given the game away

pepe said:

we’ve been to melbourne and back – delayed for one day by an ash plume.

some piccies coming
and g’ay to those not working today – or those working but intermittently looking in

That was sneaky of you Pepe. Glad you’re back now.

pepe said:

a bit of building first
P1 – the manse of mel’s main cathedral – better than the cathedral
P2 – myer music bowl – outdoor entertainment is a good idea
P3 – and P4 – a little pavilion in the bot park – all the column capitals are carved stone staghorns? – anyrate is very nice and appropriate

Nice stuff.

pepe said:

mel in the early morning fog. we stayed on southbank all the time. we never saw the burbs – just highrise hell – but it is interpersed with some reasonable people and places. the wife was listening to the dalai larma whilst i wondered the streets.

I went through all the pics thanks Pepe. I’l catch up on your comments as I read on further.

pepe said:

Dinetta said:

…last time I was there (in the cbd), the previously thriving cbd was less than…as most of the suburbanites chose to shop in the new suburban malls…this was 1980…and windy! like concrete canyons!

I couldn’t believe the difference four years had made…

i admire the renewal – but not the greed.
obviously a lot of wealthy people have invested huge sums of money to develop the southbank of the yarra. the fact that the central part of town is being renewed and revitalised is great. but the obvious greed and egotistical competition between some of the wealthy thugs has resulted in windy canyons that are exactly the same as chicago, hongkong or a dozen other cities.
melbourne now has 3.75 million people in it.

3.7 million people and they are welcome to it. Won’t find any competition from me.

hi pomolo
yeah its a ridiculous population for one city and i’m not inclined to move there either.

i presume sydney is bigger – possibly 5 million – a third of the country’s population in two big urban areas – and they’re growing.

pepe said:

a bit of building first
P1 – the manse of mel’s main cathedral – better than the cathedral
P2 – myer music bowl – outdoor entertainment is a good idea
P3 – and P4 – a little pavilion in the bot park – all the column capitals are carved stone staghorns? – anyrate is very nice and appropriate

blue skies? June? You sure that’s Melbourne?

pepe said:

mel in the early morning fog. we stayed on southbank all the time. we never saw the burbs – just highrise hell – but it is interpersed with some reasonable people and places. the wife was listening to the dalai larma whilst i wondered the streets.

that’s the Melbourne I know.

painmaster said:

pepe said:

mel in the early morning fog. we stayed on southbank all the time. we never saw the burbs – just highrise hell – but it is interpersed with some reasonable people and places. the wife was listening to the dalai larma whilst i wondered the streets.

that’s the Melbourne I know.

morning fog is nice – atmospheric and hides the ugly bits.
i remember the cold rain in melbourne – as you’re waiting for a bus – not good.

i first went to mel 42 years ago – been back 6-8 times since then. it is a cold windy joint but this time we stayed in a posher place – indoor heated pool even. the chances to hide in an artificial world were always available and i went there four times in four days. noice.

P1 – the hotel pool i just mentioned
P2 – the view from the pool balcony

pepe said:

P1 – the hotel pool i just mentioned
P2 – the view from the pool balcony

could almost like that view of Melbourne?…?

pepe said:

P! – autumn leaves are fantastic when they blanket everything
P2&3 – guess these two trees – the big black trunk at the rear and the gnarly one in front

i’m not sure if these trees were IDed

in the front with the sculptural trunk -
bush cherry – syzygium paniculatum

in the rear with the dark hooped trunk -
bunya bunya pine – araucaria bilwilli

the bunya is the monkey puzzle tree i think? – very sharp edged pine cones.

painmaster said:

pepe said:

P1 – the hotel pool i just mentioned
P2 – the view from the pool balcony

could almost like that view of Melbourne?…?

melbourne, gold coast, kuala lumpur – they all look the same – and they are heartless soulless voids built to the dollar god
- in their favour they do keep the money turning around.

pepe said:

pepe said:

P! – autumn leaves are fantastic when they blanket everything
P2&3 – guess these two trees – the big black trunk at the rear and the gnarly one in front

i’m not sure if these trees were IDed

in the front with the sculptural trunk -
bush cherry – syzygium paniculatum

in the rear with the dark hooped trunk -
bunya bunya pine – araucaria bilwilli

the bunya is the monkey puzzle tree i think? – very sharp edged pine cones.

grew monkey puzzle trees in PNG.

pepe said:

painmaster said:

pepe said:

P1 – the hotel pool i just mentioned
P2 – the view from the pool balcony

could almost like that view of Melbourne?…?

melbourne, gold coast, kuala lumpur – they all look the same – and they are heartless soulless voids built to the dollar god
- in their favour they do keep the money turning around.

but there are treasures inside some of those buildings.

pepe said:

the bunya is the monkey puzzle tree i think? – very sharp edged pine cones.

looks like an elephant’s foot

pepe said:

painmaster said:

pepe said:

P1 – the hotel pool i just mentioned
P2 – the view from the pool balcony

could almost like that view of Melbourne?…?

melbourne, gold coast, kuala lumpur – they all look the same – and they are heartless soulless voids built to the dollar god
- in their favour they do keep the money turning around.

there are worse places

pepe said:

painmaster said:

pepe said:

P1 – the hotel pool i just mentioned
P2 – the view from the pool balcony

could almost like that view of Melbourne?…?

melbourne, gold coast, kuala lumpur – they all look the same – and they are heartless soulless voids built to the dollar god
- in their favour they do keep the money turning around.

I quite like Melbourne. The GC is the pits. Never been to KL.

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

the bunya is the monkey puzzle tree i think? – very sharp edged pine cones.

looks like an elephant’s foot

Mmmmmmm Bunya Nuts.

bubba louie said:

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

the bunya is the monkey puzzle tree i think? – very sharp edged pine cones.

looks like an elephant’s foot

Mmmmmmm Bunya Nuts.

Or maybe not. The Bunya Pine is Araucaria bidwillii. The Monkey Puzzle Tree is Araucaria araucana .

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

bluegreen said:

looks like an elephant’s foot

Mmmmmmm Bunya Nuts.

Or maybe not. The Bunya Pine is Araucaria bidwillii. The Monkey Puzzle Tree is Araucaria araucana .

Feels like an elephant’s foot kicked you if one lands on your head too.

P1 – carob – pods, seed and powder. we are trying our best to use everything that grows here but whilst my daughter produced this powder i cooked 2 dozen nutties – so its a slow process

P2 – mandarins – the japanese seedless mandarin tree had a phenomenal year producing 300 of these.

pepe said:

P1 – carob – pods, seed and powder. we are trying our best to use everything that grows here but whilst my daughter produced this powder i cooked 2 dozen nutties – so its a slow process

P2 – mandarins – the japanese seedless mandarin tree had a phenomenal year producing 300 of these.

those Mandies look fantastic…. while are they all peeled though?

pain master said:

pepe said:

P1 – carob – pods, seed and powder. we are trying our best to use everything that grows here but whilst my daughter produced this powder i cooked 2 dozen nutties – so its a slow process

P2 – mandarins – the japanese seedless mandarin tree had a phenomenal year producing 300 of these.

those Mandies look fantastic…. while are they all peeled though?

juice – hand squeezed juice – neither the whiz nor the juicer does a good job – too much pith and bitterness – so i hand squeeze them – there’s plenty more – you want a photo of the fully clad mandy for some reason?

I quite like Melbourne. The GC is the pits. Never been to KL.
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theres always pros and cons.

i liked fed square, melbourne museum, the gardens, chinatown and soldiers memorial plus the fact that they have the energy and money to renew the docklands
but
crown casino is the pits and then there’s that problem of the world population explosion and everything being soo expensive – just the thought of 3.75 million people in one place is alarming.

pepe said:

pain master said:

pepe said:

P1 – carob – pods, seed and powder. we are trying our best to use everything that grows here but whilst my daughter produced this powder i cooked 2 dozen nutties – so its a slow process

P2 – mandarins – the japanese seedless mandarin tree had a phenomenal year producing 300 of these.

those Mandies look fantastic…. while are they all peeled though?

juice – hand squeezed juice – neither the whiz nor the juicer does a good job – too much pith and bitterness – so i hand squeeze them – there’s plenty more – you want a photo of the fully clad mandy for some reason?

not really, was just wondering why you had sooo many naked ones?

Do you just squeeze them in your fist?

pain master said:

pepe said:

pain master said:

those Mandies look fantastic…. while are they all peeled though?

juice – hand squeezed juice – neither the whiz nor the juicer does a good job – too much pith and bitterness – so i hand squeeze them – there’s plenty more – you want a photo of the fully clad mandy for some reason?

not really, was just wondering why you had sooo many naked ones?

Do you just squeeze them in your fist?

yes in a colander which spills into a catching bowl. then i doubly squish the pith with a masher.
pthpthhtppthh. – bootiful jooce – nice with vodka – might have one now that it’s decided to rain on my outdoor cleanup.

pepe said:

pain master said:

pepe said:

juice – hand squeezed juice – neither the whiz nor the juicer does a good job – too much pith and bitterness – so i hand squeeze them – there’s plenty more – you want a photo of the fully clad mandy for some reason?

not really, was just wondering why you had sooo many naked ones?

Do you just squeeze them in your fist?

yes in a colander which spills into a catching bowl. then i doubly squish the pith with a masher.
pthpthhtppthh. – bootiful jooce – nice with vodka – might have one now that it’s decided to rain on my outdoor cleanup.

anyone remember Merinda the mandarin soft drink in Adelaide ?

trichome said:

pepe said:

pain master said:

not really, was just wondering why you had sooo many naked ones?

Do you just squeeze them in your fist?

yes in a colander which spills into a catching bowl. then i doubly squish the pith with a masher.
pthpthhtppthh. – bootiful jooce – nice with vodka – might have one now that it’s decided to rain on my outdoor cleanup.

anyone remember Merinda the mandarin soft drink in Adelaide ?

I do remember Merinda.

trichome said:

pepe said:

pain master said:

not really, was just wondering why you had sooo many naked ones?

Do you just squeeze them in your fist?

yes in a colander which spills into a catching bowl. then i doubly squish the pith with a masher.
pthpthhtppthh. – bootiful jooce – nice with vodka – might have one now that it’s decided to rain on my outdoor cleanup.

anyone remember Merinda the mandarin soft drink in Adelaide ?

yes i remember the name.

My mother juiced mulberries that way. I have ounci mandarins too and I slce them like an orange in half and juice them like an orange. Yes they are harder to do but I just hold a fork there and allow the orange juicer to keep coming around squishing them more.. Then push the last bit through. I also used to drop them in the fruit and veg juicer with slices of apple.

pain master said:

trichome said:

pepe said:

yes in a colander which spills into a catching bowl. then i doubly squish the pith with a masher.
pthpthhtppthh. – bootiful jooce – nice with vodka – might have one now that it’s decided to rain on my outdoor cleanup.

anyone remember Merinda the mandarin soft drink in Adelaide ?

I do remember Merinda.

used to be my fav. do they still make it ?

trichome said:

pain master said:

trichome said:

anyone remember Merinda the mandarin soft drink in Adelaide ?

I do remember Merinda.

used to be my fav. do they still make it ?

I’m a long time and long way from Adelaide, but I’m pretty sure they did the last time I was there….

trichome said:

pain master said:

trichome said:

anyone remember Merinda the mandarin soft drink in Adelaide ?

I do remember Merinda.

used to be my fav. do they still make it ?

i remember tasting it and saying to the person alongside me that it was really like mandarin and that i liked it a lot.
funny -
how come we both aren’t hooked?

- they must have taken it off the market.
how come you and i gave up our potentially fav drink with so little outcry?
and what makes you think it was adelaide only?
who made it ? – was it tarax? and isn’t this a national problem?

BRING BACK OUR FRESH SQUEEZED MANDARIN DRINK !!!!

pepe said:

trichome said:

pain master said:

I do remember Merinda.

used to be my fav. do they still make it ?

i remember tasting it and saying to the person alongside me that it was really like mandarin and that i liked it a lot.
funny -
how come we both aren’t hooked?

- they must have taken it off the market.
how come you and i gave up our potentially fav drink with so little outcry?
and what makes you think it was adelaide only?
who made it ? – was it tarax? and isn’t this a national problem?

BRING BACK OUR FRESH SQUEEZED MANDARIN DRINK !!!!

we had Orange Juice in a can in France… non fizzy, just juice. Weird.

pain master said:

pepe said:

trichome said:

used to be my fav. do they still make it ?

i remember tasting it and saying to the person alongside me that it was really like mandarin and that i liked it a lot.
funny -
how come we both aren’t hooked?

- they must have taken it off the market.
how come you and i gave up our potentially fav drink with so little outcry?
and what makes you think it was adelaide only?
who made it ? – was it tarax? and isn’t this a national problem?

BRING BACK OUR FRESH SQUEEZED MANDARIN DRINK !!!!

we had Orange Juice in a can in France… non fizzy, just juice. Weird.

there’s a lot of aerated water sold in italy – so maybe they dilute it with water?

navel oranges are ripe on our tree at present. we just picked the last mandarins and we haven’t started the oranges yet.
i’m thinking of – looking for – a recipe with orange and dark chocolate (possibly carob).
failing that it might have to be a late raid on ducksr’us and a bit of l’orange.
and btw – i have 6 or so fennel bulbs maturing – so i might finally get to make those fennel recipes you’ve given me.

pepe said:

pain master said:

pepe said:

i remember tasting it and saying to the person alongside me that it was really like mandarin and that i liked it a lot.
funny -
how come we both aren’t hooked?

- they must have taken it off the market.
how come you and i gave up our potentially fav drink with so little outcry?
and what makes you think it was adelaide only?
who made it ? – was it tarax? and isn’t this a national problem?

BRING BACK OUR FRESH SQUEEZED MANDARIN DRINK !!!!

we had Orange Juice in a can in France… non fizzy, just juice. Weird.

there’s a lot of aerated water sold in italy – so maybe they dilute it with water?

navel oranges are ripe on our tree at present. we just picked the last mandarins and we haven’t started the oranges yet.
i’m thinking of – looking for – a recipe with orange and dark chocolate (possibly carob).
failing that it might have to be a late raid on ducksr’us and a bit of l’orange.
and btw – i have 6 or so fennel bulbs maturing – so i might finally get to make those fennel recipes you’ve given me.

well done with the fennel bulbs. A little envy here.

pepe said:

pain master said:

pepe said:

i remember tasting it and saying to the person alongside me that it was really like mandarin and that i liked it a lot.
funny -
how come we both aren’t hooked?

- they must have taken it off the market.
how come you and i gave up our potentially fav drink with so little outcry?
and what makes you think it was adelaide only?
who made it ? – was it tarax? and isn’t this a national problem?

BRING BACK OUR FRESH SQUEEZED MANDARIN DRINK !!!!

we had Orange Juice in a can in France… non fizzy, just juice. Weird.

there’s a lot of aerated water sold in italy – so maybe they dilute it with water?

navel oranges are ripe on our tree at present. we just picked the last mandarins and we haven’t started the oranges yet.
i’m thinking of – looking for – a recipe with orange and dark chocolate (possibly carob).
failing that it might have to be a late raid on ducksr’us and a bit of l’orange.
and btw – i have 6 or so fennel bulbs maturing – so i might finally get to make those fennel recipes you’ve given me.

Why not drink the OJ and candy the orange skins, dipped in choc?

well done with the fennel bulbs. A little envy here.
————-
definitely a cold winter veg. the summer fennel i planted refused to grow.

Why not drink the OJ and candy the orange skins, dipped in choc?

—————-

how do you candy orange peel ?

pepe said:

Why not drink the OJ and candy the orange skins, dipped in choc?

—————-

how do you candy orange peel ?

Like this. Your own home made treats. I will be making these soon too. I have made them before and they’re yum. Dunno about wit carob tho.
http://candy.about.com/od/fruitcandy/r/candied_peel.htm

Happy Potter said:

pepe said:

Why not drink the OJ and candy the orange skins, dipped in choc?

—————-

how do you candy orange peel ?

Like this. Your own home made treats. I will be making these soon too. I have made them before and they’re yum. Dunno about wit carob tho.
http://candy.about.com/od/fruitcandy/r/candied_peel.htm

many thanks HP
great idea – sweet but like nothing i have cooked before .

pepe said:

trichome said:

pain master said:

I do remember Merinda.

used to be my fav. do they still make it ?

i remember tasting it and saying to the person alongside me that it was really like mandarin and that i liked it a lot.
funny -
how come we both aren’t hooked?

- they must have taken it off the market.
how come you and i gave up our potentially fav drink with so little outcry?
and what makes you think it was adelaide only?
who made it ? – was it tarax? and isn’t this a national problem?

BRING BACK OUR FRESH SQUEEZED MANDARIN DRINK !!!!

I’ve never heard of it…

pain master said:

pepe said:

and btw – i have 6 or so fennel bulbs maturing – so i might finally get to make those fennel recipes you’ve given me.

well done with the fennel bulbs. A little envy here.

MMmmm, fresh fennel…I like the seeds for the mashed potato…just throw them in whole and mash the spuds…

pepe said:

well done with the fennel bulbs. A little envy here.
————-
definitely a cold winter veg. the summer fennel i planted refused to grow.

I didn’t know there was two types…

bon008 said:

pepe said:

trichome said:

used to be my fav. do they still make it ?

i remember tasting it and saying to the person alongside me that it was really like mandarin and that i liked it a lot.
funny -
how come we both aren’t hooked?

- they must have taken it off the market.
how come you and i gave up our potentially fav drink with so little outcry?
and what makes you think it was adelaide only?
who made it ? – was it tarax? and isn’t this a national problem?

BRING BACK OUR FRESH SQUEEZED MANDARIN DRINK !!!!

I’ve never heard of it…

There’s mandarin juice at our supermarket. Grove brand I think.

Dinetta said:

pain master said:

pepe said:

and btw – i have 6 or so fennel bulbs maturing – so i might finally get to make those fennel recipes you’ve given me.

well done with the fennel bulbs. A little envy here.

MMmmm, fresh fennel…I like the seeds for the mashed potato…just throw them in whole and mash the spuds…

Love mash however it comes. MrBL’s nephew and his wife had the best wedding reception food I’ve ever had. It was a buffet, which I normally hate because they all have the same boring stuff, but everything was restaurant quality and it was divided into different ethnicities. You could go hot or cold, greek, Italian, Indian, Aussie, vego, seafood (poached salmon) or a combo, and they had THREE different flavoured mashes. Foodie heaven. Mind you it all cost over $30,000.

bubba louie said:

Dinetta said:

pain master said:

well done with the fennel bulbs. A little envy here.

MMmmm, fresh fennel…I like the seeds for the mashed potato…just throw them in whole and mash the spuds…

MrBL’s nephew and his wife had the best wedding reception food I’ve ever had. … … and they had THREE different flavoured mashes.

Whoah!!

Dinetta said:

bubba louie said:

Dinetta said:

MMmmm, fresh fennel…I like the seeds for the mashed potato…just throw them in whole and mash the spuds…

MrBL’s nephew and his wife had the best wedding reception food I’ve ever had. … … and they had THREE different flavoured mashes.

Whoah!!

AND a live band, not an garage cheapie one either. :) It was a HOOT of a wedding.

roughbarked said:

My mother juiced mulberries that way. I have ounci mandarins too and I slce them like an orange in half and juice them like an orange. Yes they are harder to do but I just hold a fork there and allow the orange juicer to keep coming around squishing them more.. Then push the last bit through. I also used to drop them in the fruit and veg juicer with slices of apple.

umm?
they have very loose skins these ones – i would try the citrus juicer if their skins were more attached to the inside.

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

well done with the fennel bulbs. A little envy here.
————-
definitely a cold winter veg. the summer fennel i planted refused to grow.

I didn’t know there was two types…

sorry – misunderstanding
i tried growing ordinary florence fennel in summer but it’s not suitable as a summer vege here.
i saw the ‘italian food safari’ episode with a fennel grower in werribee. there’s several varieties but they are all winter crops i think.

and they had THREE different flavoured mashes.
———

fennel and 2 others?

let me guess -

spring onion and parsley???

pepe said:

and they had THREE different flavoured mashes.
———

fennel and 2 others?

let me guess -

spring onion and parsley???

Nooooooo much posher than that. LOL

There was a horseradish one and a lemon one, I can’t remember if the third was fennel or not.

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

and they had THREE different flavoured mashes.
———

fennel and 2 others?

let me guess -

spring onion and parsley???

Nooooooo much posher than that. LOL
There was a horseradish one and a lemon one, I can’t remember if the third was fennel or not.

sorry for being simple. LOL.

interesting ideas for one of favourite side dishes – well? – my favourite side dish actually.

pepe said:

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

and they had THREE different flavoured mashes.
———

fennel and 2 others?

let me guess -

spring onion and parsley???

Nooooooo much posher than that. LOL
There was a horseradish one and a lemon one, I can’t remember if the third was fennel or not.

sorry for being simple. LOL.

interesting ideas for one of favourite side dishes – well? – my favourite side dish actually.

I love spuds however you cook them.. MMMmmmmmm Spuds.

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

bubba louie said:

Nooooooo much posher than that. LOL
There was a horseradish one and a lemon one, I can’t remember if the third was fennel or not.

sorry for being simple. LOL.

interesting ideas for one of favourite side dishes – well? – my favourite side dish actually.

I love spuds however you cook them.. MMMmmmmmm Spuds.

One of my fabv summer salads is spud, but not your normal creamy one. Mine uses halved boiled jacket chats, EV oilve oil, roughly chopped black olives, lots of chopped mint and parsley with a good quality salt and fresh cracked pepper.

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

sorry for being simple. LOL.

interesting ideas for one of favourite side dishes – well? – my favourite side dish actually.

I love spuds however you cook them.. MMMmmmmmm Spuds.

One of my fabv summer salads is spud, but not your normal creamy one. Mine uses halved boiled jacket chats, EV oilve oil, roughly chopped black olives, lots of chopped mint and parsley with a good quality salt and fresh cracked pepper.

stop stop stop LOL

grow your own for the best jacket spuds – good with just butter and salt – maybe a little grated cheese and a sqeeze of lemon juice.

i hate pruning and don’t know how to do it.
however i know that i must prune so i do my best. below are some photos of the fig tree before and after pruning today
P1 – fig tree before pruning
P2 – after pruning left only the main vertical and one diagonal branch
P3 – barrow load of fig cuttings.

You took too much off the fig unless you thought that was too big for a fig tree, in that spot. A good ifdea when pruning many fruit trees is to aim for the creation of fruiting branches that come down to your hand rather than ones you need two ladders for. Cut the cuttings into lengths about 825 mm put them in a trench deep enough so that they are able to have 60-80 mm of sand or more able to cover them. The trench can be in a sand heap or in a contained above ground boxed sand heap.
no.. other way up.. yes.. put the cuttings in upside down seal them with moistedned sand cover them well moisten that and do it in a place where the sun shines longest during the remaining winter days.
Now you have time to prepare the places you want to plant these cuttings.
In early spring, take these cuttings out of the sand and inspect them. If they have callused well and created roots well and good. Planrt them out, this time the right way up. Cover all of the cutting by planting it that deep but slightly hilled. Water it in. maintain moisture levels and watch it grow.

roughbarked said:

You took too much off the fig unless you thought that was too big for a fig tree, in that spot. A good ifdea when pruning many fruit trees is to aim for the creation of fruiting branches that come down to your hand rather than ones you need two ladders for. Cut the cuttings into lengths about 825 mm put them in a trench deep enough so that they are able to have 60-80 mm of sand or more able to cover them. The trench can be in a sand heap or in a contained above ground boxed sand heap.
no.. other way up.. yes.. put the cuttings in upside down seal them with moistedned sand cover them well moisten that and do it in a place where the sun shines longest during the remaining winter days.
Now you have time to prepare the places you want to plant these cuttings.
In early spring, take these cuttings out of the sand and inspect them. If they have callused well and created roots well and good. Planrt them out, this time the right way up. Cover all of the cutting by planting it that deep but slightly hilled. Water it in. maintain moisture levels and watch it grow.

ok
upside down ?
if you say so – i presume you mean stick them in the ground vertically and not layered like tree dahlia cuttings.

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

You took too much off the fig unless you thought that was too big for a fig tree, in that spot. A good ifdea when pruning many fruit trees is to aim for the creation of fruiting branches that come down to your hand rather than ones you need two ladders for. Cut the cuttings into lengths about 825 mm put them in a trench deep enough so that they are able to have 60-80 mm of sand or more able to cover them. The trench can be in a sand heap or in a contained above ground boxed sand heap.
no.. other way up.. yes.. put the cuttings in upside down seal them with moistedned sand cover them well moisten that and do it in a place where the sun shines longest during the remaining winter days.
Now you have time to prepare the places you want to plant these cuttings.
In early spring, take these cuttings out of the sand and inspect them. If they have callused well and created roots well and good. Planrt them out, this time the right way up. Cover all of the cutting by planting it that deep but slightly hilled. Water it in. maintain moisture levels and watch it grow.

ok
upside down ?
if you say so – i presume you mean stick them in the ground vertically and not layered like tree dahlia cuttings.

Hugely interesting post, that, wasn’t it?

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

You took too much off the fig unless you thought that was too big for a fig tree, in that spot. A good ifdea when pruning many fruit trees is to aim for the creation of fruiting branches that come down to your hand rather than ones you need two ladders for. Cut the cuttings into lengths about 825 mm put them in a trench deep enough so that they are able to have 60-80 mm of sand or more able to cover them. The trench can be in a sand heap or in a contained above ground boxed sand heap.
no.. other way up.. yes.. put the cuttings in upside down seal them with moistedned sand cover them well moisten that and do it in a place where the sun shines longest during the remaining winter days.
Now you have time to prepare the places you want to plant these cuttings.
In early spring, take these cuttings out of the sand and inspect them. If they have callused well and created roots well and good. Planrt them out, this time the right way up. Cover all of the cutting by planting it that deep but slightly hilled. Water it in. maintain moisture levels and watch it grow.

ok
upside down ?
if you say so – i presume you mean stick them in the ground vertically and not layered like tree dahlia cuttings.

that’s the impression I got, only the whole cutting is buried with nothing sticking out.

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

You took too much off the fig unless you thought that was too big for a fig tree, in that spot. A good ifdea when pruning many fruit trees is to aim for the creation of fruiting branches that come down to your hand rather than ones you need two ladders for. Cut the cuttings into lengths about 825 mm put them in a trench deep enough so that they are able to have 60-80 mm of sand or more able to cover them. The trench can be in a sand heap or in a contained above ground boxed sand heap.
no.. other way up.. yes.. put the cuttings in upside down seal them with moistedned sand cover them well moisten that and do it in a place where the sun shines longest during the remaining winter days.
Now you have time to prepare the places you want to plant these cuttings.
In early spring, take these cuttings out of the sand and inspect them. If they have callused well and created roots well and good. Planrt them out, this time the right way up. Cover all of the cutting by planting it that deep but slightly hilled. Water it in. maintain moisture levels and watch it grow.

ok
upside down ?
if you say so – i presume you mean stick them in the ground vertically and not layered like tree dahlia cuttings.

that’s the impression I got, only the whole cutting is buried with nothing sticking out.

Off topic but still about cuttings. I read that Epis can be struck in water, so I tried it and it works. Who’d of thunk it, a cacti striking in water?????

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

You took too much off the fig unless you thought that was too big for a fig tree, in that spot. A good ifdea when pruning many fruit trees is to aim for the creation of fruiting branches that come down to your hand rather than ones you need two ladders for. Cut the cuttings into lengths about 825 mm put them in a trench deep enough so that they are able to have 60-80 mm of sand or more able to cover them. The trench can be in a sand heap or in a contained above ground boxed sand heap.
no.. other way up.. yes.. put the cuttings in upside down seal them with moistedned sand cover them well moisten that and do it in a place where the sun shines longest during the remaining winter days.
Now you have time to prepare the places you want to plant these cuttings.
In early spring, take these cuttings out of the sand and inspect them. If they have callused well and created roots well and good. Planrt them out, this time the right way up. Cover all of the cutting by planting it that deep but slightly hilled. Water it in. maintain moisture levels and watch it grow.

ok
upside down ?
if you say so – i presume you mean stick them in the ground vertically and not layered like tree dahlia cuttings.

Hugely interesting post, that, wasn’t it?

unbelievable LOL.
can’t wait for mulberry propagation tips – i can see moonlight plantings coming up.

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

You took too much off the fig unless you thought that was too big for a fig tree, in that spot. A good ifdea when pruning many fruit trees is to aim for the creation of fruiting branches that come down to your hand rather than ones you need two ladders for. Cut the cuttings into lengths about 825 mm put them in a trench deep enough so that they are able to have 60-80 mm of sand or more able to cover them. The trench can be in a sand heap or in a contained above ground boxed sand heap.
no.. other way up.. yes.. put the cuttings in upside down seal them with moistedned sand cover them well moisten that and do it in a place where the sun shines longest during the remaining winter days.
Now you have time to prepare the places you want to plant these cuttings.
In early spring, take these cuttings out of the sand and inspect them. If they have callused well and created roots well and good. Planrt them out, this time the right way up. Cover all of the cutting by planting it that deep but slightly hilled. Water it in. maintain moisture levels and watch it grow.

ok
upside down ?
if you say so – i presume you mean stick them in the ground vertically and not layered like tree dahlia cuttings.

that’s the impression I got, only the whole cutting is buried with nothing sticking out.

upside down in an ant nest – sorry RB LOL.
- i will do it – even though my pot of propagating soil is feeling unwanted at this stage

Off topic but still about cuttings. I read that Epis can be struck in water, so I tried it and it works. Who’d of thunk it, a cacti striking in water?????
—

weird – but we’re getting used to that.

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

You took too much off the fig unless you thought that was too big for a fig tree, in that spot. A good ifdea when pruning many fruit trees is to aim for the creation of fruiting branches that come down to your hand rather than ones you need two ladders for. Cut the cuttings into lengths about 825 mm put them in a trench deep enough so that they are able to have 60-80 mm of sand or more able to cover them. The trench can be in a sand heap or in a contained above ground boxed sand heap.
no.. other way up.. yes.. put the cuttings in upside down seal them with moistedned sand cover them well moisten that and do it in a place where the sun shines longest during the remaining winter days.
Now you have time to prepare the places you want to plant these cuttings.
In early spring, take these cuttings out of the sand and inspect them. If they have callused well and created roots well and good. Planrt them out, this time the right way up. Cover all of the cutting by planting it that deep but slightly hilled. Water it in. maintain moisture levels and watch it grow.

ok
upside down ?
if you say so – i presume you mean stick them in the ground vertically and not layered like tree dahlia cuttings.

that’s the impression I got, only the whole cutting is buried with nothing sticking out.

I get the impression that you lay them in the trench and completely cover them. RB?

pepe said:

i hate pruning and don’t know how to do it.
however i know that i must prune so i do my best. below are some photos of the fig tree before and after pruning today
P1 – fig tree before pruning
P2 – after pruning left only the main vertical and one diagonal branch
P3 – barrow load of fig cuttings.

brutal.

bubba louie said:

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

ok
upside down ?
if you say so – i presume you mean stick them in the ground vertically and not layered like tree dahlia cuttings.

that’s the impression I got, only the whole cutting is buried with nothing sticking out.

Off topic but still about cuttings. I read that Epis can be struck in water, so I tried it and it works. Who’d of thunk it, a cacti striking in water?????

most of our succulents and cacti in our little patch have been struck in water. Our Epi, we just plonked it into the mulch resting up against the trunk of a tree, and its away.

pain master said:

pepe said:

i hate pruning and don’t know how to do it.
however i know that i must prune so i do my best. below are some photos of the fig tree before and after pruning today
P1 – fig tree before pruning
P2 – after pruning left only the main vertical and one diagonal branch
P3 – barrow load of fig cuttings.

brutal.

et tu?

i will have high trauma if anyone else says i pruned too much off the fig. lol.

upside down figs planted – altho’ it feels like a hoax so no piccies until spring (if successful)
some cuttings from the base of the plant had roots – to they have gone into potting soil.

now i have a wheelbarrow load of quince and mulberry cuttings – any clues how to propagate them?

pepe said:

i will have high trauma if anyone else says i pruned too much off the fig. lol.

I would have pruned more off, if that is any consolation.

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

i will have high trauma if anyone else says i pruned too much off the fig. lol.

I would have pruned more off, if that is any consolation.

whew – you’re a very intelligent pruner too might i say LOL.

pepe said:

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

i will have high trauma if anyone else says i pruned too much off the fig. lol.

I would have pruned more off, if that is any consolation.

whew – you’re a very intelligent pruner too might i say LOL.

She’s be good at it anyway Pepe. You can bet on that.

pomolo said:

pepe said:

bluegreen said:

I would have pruned more off, if that is any consolation.

whew – you’re a very intelligent pruner too might i say LOL.

She’s be good at it anyway Pepe. You can bet on that.

ummm, I wouldn’t! lol!

bluegreen said:

pomolo said:

pepe said:

whew – you’re a very intelligent pruner too might i say LOL.

She’s be good at it anyway Pepe. You can bet on that.

ummm, I wouldn’t! lol!

In the case of a fig.

Pruning more off wasn’t the problem I saw. Though yes, it was required.

Generally a framework is desired.
The way to start a framework is decide upon where you want the trunk to branch and cut it there.

So I would grow one stick to the height you want it to branch and cut it there. I would then try to get those branches to weep fruiting branches to where I could reach them and this means removing all the last seasons growth from where you cut it the year before and the year before ad infinitum.
The last thing you want a fig to do is grow multiple trunks, in an attempt to try and keep the fruit low. It won’t work.

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

pomolo said:

She’s be good at it anyway Pepe. You can bet on that.

ummm, I wouldn’t! lol!

In the case of a fig.

Pruning more off wasn’t the problem I saw. Though yes, it was required.

Generally a framework is desired.
The way to start a framework is decide upon where you want the trunk to branch and cut it there.

So I would grow one stick to the height you want it to branch and cut it there. I would then try to get those branches to weep fruiting branches to where I could reach them and this means removing all the last seasons growth from where you cut it the year before and the year before ad infinitum.
The last thing you want a fig to do is grow multiple trunks, in an attempt to try and keep the fruit low. It won’t work.

the rest of my 30 fruit trees are pruned symmetrically but this one with the vertical and the diagonal branch is an experiment to produce max fruit at minimal height. so far it has been terrific. but if that diagonal branch weakens i will do as you suggest.

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

ummm, I wouldn’t! lol!

In the case of a fig.

Pruning more off wasn’t the problem I saw. Though yes, it was required.

Generally a framework is desired.
The way to start a framework is decide upon where you want the trunk to branch and cut it there.

So I would grow one stick to the height you want it to branch and cut it there. I would then try to get those branches to weep fruiting branches to where I could reach them and this means removing all the last seasons growth from where you cut it the year before and the year before ad infinitum.
The last thing you want a fig to do is grow multiple trunks, in an attempt to try and keep the fruit low. It won’t work.

the rest of my 30 fruit trees are pruned symmetrically but this one with the vertical and the diagonal branch is an experiment to produce max fruit at minimal height. so far it has been terrific. but if that diagonal branch weakens i will do as you suggest.

weakening wasn’t what was on my mind but if you keep it controlled it should be no problem.

it’s probably gonna be remembered as the best year ever for vege gardens in sa.

P1 – plenty beetroot
P2 – the florence fennel developing nicely
P3 – yay – 30+ jap pumpkins harvested today. incredible that it’s late june – the plants were still growing and all these are a good size (10” or 250mm diam.)

pepe said:

it’s probably gonna be remembered as the best year ever for vege gardens in sa.

P1 – plenty beetroot
P2 – the florence fennel developing nicely
P3 – yay – 30+ jap pumpkins harvested today. incredible that it’s late june – the plants were still growing and all these are a good size (10” or 250mm diam.)

What a good haul! What are you going to do with so many pumpkins?

P1 – plenty spuds being planted now in damp soil to avoid summer watering. the photo also shows the pesky soursob that invades everything.

P2 – some nice savoy cabbages coming on

P3 – the paving project and one of the planter boxes with two oleanders just planted.

Happy Potter said:

pepe said:

it’s probably gonna be remembered as the best year ever for vege gardens in sa.

P1 – plenty beetroot
P2 – the florence fennel developing nicely
P3 – yay – 30+ jap pumpkins harvested today. incredible that it’s late june – the plants were still growing and all these are a good size (10” or 250mm diam.)

What a good haul! What are you going to do with so many pumpkins?

we had 30 butternuts about 3 years ago and they stored well in the cellar. i hope to still be eating these in 9 months time

pepe said:

Happy Potter said:

pepe said:

it’s probably gonna be remembered as the best year ever for vege gardens in sa.

P1 – plenty beetroot
P2 – the florence fennel developing nicely
P3 – yay – 30+ jap pumpkins harvested today. incredible that it’s late june – the plants were still growing and all these are a good size (10” or 250mm diam.)

What a good haul! What are you going to do with so many pumpkins?

we had 30 butternuts about 3 years ago and they stored well in the cellar. i hope to still be eating these in 9 months time

Great :)

pepe said:

it’s probably gonna be remembered as the best year ever for vege gardens in sa.

P1 – plenty beetroot
P2 – the florence fennel developing nicely
P3 – yay – 30+ jap pumpkins harvested today. incredible that it’s late june – the plants were still growing and all these are a good size (10” or 250mm diam.)

Good haul.

pepe said:

P1 – plenty spuds being planted now in damp soil to avoid summer watering. the photo also shows the pesky soursob that invades everything.

P2 – some nice savoy cabbages coming on

P3 – the paving project and one of the planter boxes with two oleanders just planted.

You haven’t been resting on your laurels.

pepe said:

it’s probably gonna be remembered as the best year ever for vege gardens in sa.

P1 – plenty beetroot
P2 – the florence fennel developing nicely
P3 – yay – 30+ jap pumpkins harvested today. incredible that it’s late june – the plants were still growing and all these are a good size (10” or 250mm diam.)

great shots pepe :)

pepe said:

P1 – plenty spuds being planted now in damp soil to avoid summer watering. the photo also shows the pesky soursob that invades everything.

P2 – some nice savoy cabbages coming on

P3 – the paving project and one of the planter boxes with two oleanders just planted.

Why Oleanders Pepe?

pain master said:

pepe said:

P1 – plenty spuds being planted now in damp soil to avoid summer watering. the photo also shows the pesky soursob that invades everything.

P2 – some nice savoy cabbages coming on

P3 – the paving project and one of the planter boxes with two oleanders just planted.

Why Oleanders Pepe?

hang on i’ll ask ….
ms pepe says they are fire resistant and easy care. i leave her to sort the ornamentals out but – the fire bit makes sense because it is on the windy west. they have to be drought tolerant and hardy because ms pepe is el slacko when it comes to the front garden – and i’m worse.

pomolo said:

pepe said:

P1 – plenty spuds being planted now in damp soil to avoid summer watering. the photo also shows the pesky soursob that invades everything.

P2 – some nice savoy cabbages coming on

P3 – the paving project and one of the planter boxes with two oleanders just planted.

You haven’t been resting on your laurels.

the front fence/ paving/ garden project has taken forever. it is a large job with recycling all materials – lotsa bricklaying, plastering, paving and drainage – it’s almost done now.

pepe said:

pain master said:

pepe said:

P1 – plenty spuds being planted now in damp soil to avoid summer watering. the photo also shows the pesky soursob that invades everything.

P2 – some nice savoy cabbages coming on

P3 – the paving project and one of the planter boxes with two oleanders just planted.

Why Oleanders Pepe?

hang on i’ll ask ….
ms pepe says they are fire resistant and easy care. i leave her to sort the ornamentals out but – the fire bit makes sense because it is on the windy west. they have to be drought tolerant and hardy because ms pepe is el slacko when it comes to the front garden – and i’m worse.

do you plan on planting anything underneath or around the base of the Oleanders?

pain master said:

pepe said:

pain master said:

Why Oleanders Pepe?

hang on i’ll ask ….
ms pepe says they are fire resistant and easy care. i leave her to sort the ornamentals out but – the fire bit makes sense because it is on the windy west. they have to be drought tolerant and hardy because ms pepe is el slacko when it comes to the front garden – and i’m worse.

do you plan on planting anything underneath or around the base of the Oleanders?

probably … why?

pepe said:

pain master said:

pepe said:

hang on i’ll ask ….
ms pepe says they are fire resistant and easy care. i leave her to sort the ornamentals out but – the fire bit makes sense because it is on the windy west. they have to be drought tolerant and hardy because ms pepe is el slacko when it comes to the front garden – and i’m worse.

do you plan on planting anything underneath or around the base of the Oleanders?

probably … why?

Probably because nothing will grow, you’ll only waste money on it. I’m not an oleander fan.

pepe said:

it’s probably gonna be remembered as the best year ever for vege gardens in sa.

P1 – plenty beetroot
P2 – the florence fennel developing nicely
P3 – yay – 30+ jap pumpkins harvested today. incredible that it’s late june – the plants were still growing and all these are a good size (10” or 250mm diam.)

Pornographic, as Lucky would say…beaut looking pumikins there…

pepe said:

P1 – plenty spuds being planted now in damp soil to avoid summer watering. the photo also shows the pesky soursob that invades everything.

P2 – some nice savoy cabbages coming on

P3 – the paving project and one of the planter boxes with two oleanders just planted.

Oleanders??? You’re growing oleanders?!

Me no like, Okay?

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

P1 – plenty spuds being planted now in damp soil to avoid summer watering. the photo also shows the pesky soursob that invades everything.

P2 – some nice savoy cabbages coming on

P3 – the paving project and one of the planter boxes with two oleanders just planted.

Oleanders??? You’re growing oleanders?!

Me no like, Okay?

Didn’t anyone tell you? The best way to plant oleanders is six foot down with a concrete block on top.

Dinetta said:

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

P1 – plenty spuds being planted now in damp soil to avoid summer watering. the photo also shows the pesky soursob that invades everything.

P2 – some nice savoy cabbages coming on

P3 – the paving project and one of the planter boxes with two oleanders just planted.

Oleanders??? You’re growing oleanders?!

Me no like, Okay?

Didn’t anyone tell you? The best way to plant oleanders is six foot down with a concrete block on top.

yeah and then build a freeway over it

Happy Potter said:

Dinetta said:

Dinetta said:

Oleanders??? You’re growing oleanders?!

Me no like, Okay?

Didn’t anyone tell you? The best way to plant oleanders is six foot down with a concrete block on top.

yeah and then build a freeway over it

So my comment was bland.

OK people who plant oleanders should get the same treatment or at the bare minimum sent to a rehabilitation clinic until they get it out of their system.

Repeat offenders get the concrete highway on top

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

pain master said:

do you plan on planting anything underneath or around the base of the Oleanders?

probably … why?

Probably because nothing will grow, you’ll only waste money on it. I’m not an oleander fan.

i’ve just dug a 100 poppy seedlings out of the red onion bed and guess where i’ve planted them.
20 cents says they be growing in with the oleanders by late spring.

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

P1 – plenty spuds being planted now in damp soil to avoid summer watering. the photo also shows the pesky soursob that invades everything.

P2 – some nice savoy cabbages coming on

P3 – the paving project and one of the planter boxes with two oleanders just planted.

Oleanders??? You’re growing oleanders?!

Me no like, Okay?

yeah ok – but all italians might think you a little paranoid. they’ve got thousands of oleander trees growing on the isle of capri – and never a recorded poisoning.

roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

Dinetta said:

Didn’t anyone tell you? The best way to plant oleanders is six foot down with a concrete block on top.

yeah and then build a freeway over it

So my comment was bland.

OK people who plant oleanders should get the same treatment or at the bare minimum sent to a rehabilitation clinic until they get it out of their system.

Repeat offenders get the concrete highway on top

go away

gums are poisonous you know and they burn your house down after they’ve killed you and every living thing that tries to grow under them

pomolo!! – they’re picking on me as soon as you left LOL

…and another thing – there’s several oleanders growing on a highway near here that i pass by every week – and hey – no carcases – no dead birds dogs people or cats!

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

probably … why?

Probably because nothing will grow, you’ll only waste money on it. I’m not an oleander fan.

i’ve just dug a 100 poppy seedlings out of the red onion bed and guess where i’ve planted them.
20 cents says they be growing in with the oleanders by late spring.

poppy seedlings .. looks at my phone to the drug enforcement people.. ;)

Yeah, which poppies? Anyway, even poppies will not continue to grow there once the oleander plants get a start.

pepe said:

…and another thing – there’s several oleanders growing on a highway near here that i pass by every week – and hey – no carcases – no dead birds dogs people or cats!

Thing is pepe..
How do we know that oleanders can be deadly if no posonings have been recorded.. That part of your contention is rubbish.

The issues I have with oleander have nothing to do with their toxicity to humans .. we could do with less of them too. Nor do I believe that any plant is resistant to fire for very long. ie: a few seconds isn’t going to help you much.

Fire retardant simply means that a careless match or cigarette but isn’t going to start a conflagration but the same thing goes with Eucalyptus if you mow the litter underneath them.

Oleander flowers are pretty if you like that kind of thing. They do make a hedge better than many other plants due to the fact that none of the plants dies in the first few years or later, which means a no gaps hedge. They will grow slowly if not watered but will still become huge not just in height but in a wide girth. That coupled with the fact the you don’t want to scratch yourself while mowing will reduce the useable size of your property by a large area which will become virtually useless for anything else.

They

just go and ask the Scots about Rhododendron.

pepe said:

yeah ok – but all italians might think you a little paranoid. they’ve got thousands of oleander trees growing on the isle of capri – and never a recorded poisoning.

they be indigenous there perhaps?

of course oleanders are not the only poisonous plant you find in the garden.

friends I had once (no longer but for other reasons) once said they would never bring their kids to my old place because of the oleander in the front yard (she was a doctor) so I went to great efforts to kill and and remove it but they still didn’t bring their kids to my place.

bluegreen said:

so I went to great efforts to kill and and remove it but they still didn’t bring their kids to my place.

They were grownups by the time you managed to kill it?

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

…and another thing – there’s several oleanders growing on a highway near here that i pass by every week – and hey – no carcases – no dead birds dogs people or cats!

Thing is pepe..
How do we know that oleanders can be deadly if no posonings have been recorded.. That part of your contention is rubbish.

The issues I have with oleander have nothing to do with their toxicity to humans .. we could do with less of them too. Nor do I believe that any plant is resistant to fire for very long. ie: a few seconds isn’t going to help you much.

Fire retardant simply means that a careless match or cigarette but isn’t going to start a conflagration but the same thing goes with Eucalyptus if you mow the litter underneath them.

Oleander flowers are pretty if you like that kind of thing. They do make a hedge better than many other plants due to the fact that none of the plants dies in the first few years or later, which means a no gaps hedge. They will grow slowly if not watered but will still become huge not just in height but in a wide girth. That coupled with the fact the you don’t want to scratch yourself while mowing will reduce the useable size of your property by a large area which will become virtually useless for anything else.

They

thing is RB they are planted throughout north america and europe and no where is there a reaction to them like we just experienced on this forum.

they are basically harmless and yet you get a wildly exaggerated response as soon as you mention them in australia. weird – i wonder what PM is going to say?

btw millions of people lean on them (oleanders), scratch themselves and lick their wounds all over the world and nothing – no poisoning – no adverse reaction.

for thirty years i (and others) told the building industry that termites could not eat through concrete. but for thirty years everybody (who was any body) poisoned under their concrete floors because termites could eat thru concrete.

the global financial collapsed was caused by experts who all advised the same thing.

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

…and another thing – there’s several oleanders growing on a highway near here that i pass by every week – and hey – no carcases – no dead birds dogs people or cats!

Thing is pepe..
How do we know that oleanders can be deadly if no posonings have been recorded.. That part of your contention is rubbish.

The issues I have with oleander have nothing to do with their toxicity to humans .. we could do with less of them too. Nor do I believe that any plant is resistant to fire for very long. ie: a few seconds isn’t going to help you much.

Fire retardant simply means that a careless match or cigarette but isn’t going to start a conflagration but the same thing goes with Eucalyptus if you mow the litter underneath them.

Oleander flowers are pretty if you like that kind of thing. They do make a hedge better than many other plants due to the fact that none of the plants dies in the first few years or later, which means a no gaps hedge. They will grow slowly if not watered but will still become huge not just in height but in a wide girth. That coupled with the fact the you don’t want to scratch yourself while mowing will reduce the useable size of your property by a large area which will become virtually useless for anything else.

They

thing is RB they are planted throughout north america and europe and no where is there a reaction to them like we just experienced on this forum.

they are basically harmless and yet you get a wildly exaggerated response as soon as you mention them in australia. weird – i wonder what PM is going to say?

btw millions of people lean on them (oleanders), scratch themselves and lick their wounds all over the world and nothing – no poisoning – no adverse reaction.

for thirty years i (and others) told the building industry that termites could not eat through concrete. but for thirty years everybody (who was any body) poisoned under their concrete floors because termites could eat thru concrete.

the global financial collapsed was caused by experts who all advised the same thing.

Concrete can and does develop cracks. Building codes require the use of termite control under concrete slabs.
http://www.oleander.org/toxic.html

I think you need to read up on the GFC.

I know you are just sticking up for your partner’s decision(which is a good thing) and I really don’t care if you plant oleanders though it will only make your place look like millions of others. I believe that you would prefer to plant something else. I’d plant a Cannabis hedge because that could get me salvage rights on a US stealth helicopter. ;)

pepe said:

yeah ok – but all italians might think you a little paranoid. they’ve got thousands of oleander trees growing on the isle of capri – and never a recorded poisoning.

It’s not the poison that bothers me…it’s the fact that there’s other indigenous plants you can grow, that won’t carry bushfire ashes, look attractive, encourage the birds and don’t require “pruning” (read cutting down to the ground) year after year with a chainsaw (if you’re lucky to own a chainsaw).

Sorry Pepe, it’s your garden after all, by all means grow them and enjoy them, but oleanders, for me, have passed their use by date as a useful plant in Australia…

I love Cook trees, a relative of Oleanders, but these are now considered a pest. Cook trees only grew to a nice shrubby size and shape and as near as I can tell, never escaped to become environmental pests…sadly their “poison” component has led to them becoming illegals…

The extremely bitter and nauseating taste of the sap (much like a rotten lemon) causes a mechanical reflex in the stomach which rejects and expels the vile substance. Although not impossible, a person or animal would have to have a strong stomach or no sense of taste for a dose of the toxin to be fatal.
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concrete cracking is a different topic – termites cannot eat thru’ concrete

the gfc was caused by experts flogging a lie!
maybe you should read up on the bay of pigs disaster.

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

yeah ok – but all italians might think you a little paranoid. they’ve got thousands of oleander trees growing on the isle of capri – and never a recorded poisoning.

they be indigenous there perhaps?

of course oleanders are not the only poisonous plant you find in the garden.

friends I had once (no longer but for other reasons) once said they would never bring their kids to my old place because of the oleander in the front yard (she was a doctor) so I went to great efforts to kill and and remove it but they still didn’t bring their kids to my place.

BlueGreen, you forgot to place quotation marks around the word friends in that post…

The GFC was most certainly caused by lies on top of lies…our business is a victim…altho’ we most certainly didn’t lie…

Ronald Reagan’s govt has a lot to answer for…but I digress from Pepe’s garden…sorry Pepe…

pepe said:

The extremely bitter and nauseating taste of the sap (much like a rotten lemon) causes a mechanical reflex in the stomach which rejects and expels the vile substance. Although not impossible, a person or animal would have to have a strong stomach or no sense of taste for a dose of the toxin to be fatal.
————————

concrete cracking is a different topic – termites cannot eat thru’ concrete

the gfc was caused by experts flogging a lie!
maybe you should read up on the bay of pigs disaster.

termites can crawl around concrete and come in through the weep holes. Anyway I’m not bothered about that too much because my termites come right to the house and stop. Because it was sprayed under and nearby the slab.

I’m aware of the bay of pigs and all that but the GFC actually began to occur after the second war when the US printed mony by the ship load.

Dinetta said:

The GFC was most certainly caused by lies on top of lies…our business is a victim…altho’ we most certainly didn’t lie…

Ronald Reagan’s govt has a lot to answer for…but I digress from Pepe’s garden…sorry Pepe…

Wrong wrong wrong wrong…the GFC was caused by greed greed greed greed

Dinetta said:

Dinetta said:

The GFC was most certainly caused by lies on top of lies…our business is a victim…altho’ we most certainly didn’t lie…

Ronald Reagan’s govt has a lot to answer for…but I digress from Pepe’s garden…sorry Pepe…

Wrong wrong wrong wrong…the GFC was caused by greed greed greed greed

It was caused by greed generating greed in people who would have known better if they hadn’t been talked into it.

Dinetta said:

The GFC was most certainly caused by lies on top of lies…our business is a victim…altho’ we most certainly didn’t lie…

Ronald Reagan’s govt has a lot to answer for…but I digress from Pepe’s garden…sorry Pepe…

the other trees are the curry leaf tree (murraya koenigii) and the chinese pistachio (pitacia chinensis). we are using all these planter boxes trees etc to protect the western kitchen wall from the weather as well as to hide the gas bottles and hot water from the street view.

the oleanders are on the south side of the house and in shadow of the porch so they may have a hard time growing – altho the western sun should save them and the poppies (i’m hoping).

pi*s*tacia chinensis

lunchtime

pepe said:

Dinetta said:

The GFC was most certainly caused by lies on top of lies…our business is a victim…altho’ we most certainly didn’t lie…

Ronald Reagan’s govt has a lot to answer for…but I digress from Pepe’s garden…sorry Pepe…

the other trees are the curry leaf tree (murraya koenigii) and the chinese pistachio (pitacia chinensis). we are using all these planter boxes trees etc to protect the western kitchen wall from the weather as well as to hide the gas bottles and hot water from the street view.

the oleanders are on the south side of the house and in shadow of the porch so they may have a hard time growing – altho the western sun should save them and the poppies (i’m hoping).

Why not graft some good varieties of pistachio that can save money on your food bill?
Like others here, I’d always reference natives for ornamental hedges, windbreaks and privacy screens. My motto is, if you don’t intend to eat it or use it for it’s beneficic properties then why waste water on it when it could be a native that attracts natives?

Now I’ll ask you to show me evidence of blue wrens or others of the small native birds ilk, nesting in and otherwise utilising Oleanders.

Why not graft some good varieties of pistachio that can save money on your food bill?
Like others here, I’d always reference natives for ornamental hedges, windbreaks and privacy screens. My motto is, if you don’t intend to eat it or use it for it’s beneficic properties then why waste water on it when it could be a native that attracts natives?

Now I’ll ask you to show me evidence of blue wrens or others of the small native birds ilk, nesting in and otherwise utilising Oleanders.
—
chuckle – the poor bluddy oleanders having even grown yet and you want birds nesting in them – you’re a hard man RB.

you note i keep the natives well away from the house because of bushfire – and let me tell you it ain’t the tree that worries me but the inflammable dry leaves and volatile eucalyptus oil.
no gums near houses (altho’ i have a native corner elsewhere).

i also have several highly productive gardens and orchards elsewhere on the block. pistachios will grow well here and i haven’t any – yet.

pepe said:

Why not graft some good varieties of pistachio that can save money on your food bill?
Like others here, I’d always reference natives for ornamental hedges, windbreaks and privacy screens. My motto is, if you don’t intend to eat it or use it for it’s beneficic properties then why waste water on it when it could be a native that attracts natives?

Now I’ll ask you to show me evidence of blue wrens or others of the small native birds ilk, nesting in and otherwise utilising Oleanders.
—
chuckle – the poor bluddy oleanders having even grown yet and you want birds nesting in them – you’re a hard man RB.

you note i keep the natives well away from the house because of bushfire – and let me tell you it ain’t the tree that worries me but the inflammable dry leaves and volatile eucalyptus oil.
no gums near houses (altho’ i have a native corner elsewhere).

i also have several highly productive gardens and orchards elsewhere on the block. pistachios will grow well here and i haven’t any – yet.

There are many natives that do not belong to the group known as Eucalypt and yes they don’t have to be from Myrtaceae either. Now.. rezone and rethink how many plants belong to Myrtaceae and realise that most of them aren’t natives.

If you can grow pistachio, you are ten twenty years behind if you haven’t planted some.

I know I’m a hard man, I have to be, it is the nature of things. ;)

There are many natives that do not belong to the group known as Eucalypt and yes they don’t have to be from Myrtaceae either. now.. rezone and rethink how many plants belong to Myrtaceae and realise that most of them aren’t natives.
If you can grow pistachio, you are ten twenty years behind if you haven’t planted some.
I know I’m a hard man, I have to be, it is the nature of things. ;)
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i’ll have to look up myrtaceae to see what you mean.
i’m in an urban forest that was a dairy farm 40 years ago and i’ve just moved in 6 years ago. so i can’t be 20 years behind with pistachios but i would like some.

the thing about this urban forest that grows on all these 2 acre allotments is its eclectic nature. i’m part of a forest that i don’t control. the birds that are here, migrate here, and take what water, shelter and food they can find. i don’t think that hakeas and melaleucas are any better than exotic bush because all the local fauna has adapted to the new conditions or gone elsewhere. i don’t think it will ever go back to native bush. i do have some neighbours who have all native gardens and good – love them except for their fire danger – but it will take me a long while to get rid of the 40y.o. pines on this patch – meanwhile i learn patience.

pepe said:

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meanwhile i learn patience.

:) that’s the wunnerful bit. :)

Not all natives pose fire danger…for example the yellowwood here has leaves of a similar flammability to delonix regina (F7)…

The fire danger lies in the ability of the vegetative embers to stay “alive” long enough, once alight, to transfer the fire elsewhere…some leaves of the lesser flammability capabilities, they turn to ashes whilst being blown about and so do not transfer from place to place as embers…hope I’m clear?

Dinetta said:

Not all natives pose fire danger…for example the yellowwood here has leaves of a similar flammability to delonix regina (F7)…

The fire danger lies in the ability of the vegetative embers to stay “alive” long enough, once alight, to transfer the fire elsewhere…some leaves of the lesser flammability capabilities, they turn to ashes whilst being blown about and so do not transfer from place to place as embers…hope I’m clear?

Yes Dinetta. Crystal.

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

so I went to great efforts to kill and and remove it but they still didn’t bring their kids to my place.

They were grownups by the time you managed to kill it?

no, they just didn’t come visit us. But killing it was a challenge, yes.

roughbarked said:

I’d plant a Cannabis hedge because that could get me salvage rights on a US stealth helicopter. ;)

lol!

Dinetta said:

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

yeah ok – but all italians might think you a little paranoid. they’ve got thousands of oleander trees growing on the isle of capri – and never a recorded poisoning.

they be indigenous there perhaps?

of course oleanders are not the only poisonous plant you find in the garden.

friends I had once (no longer but for other reasons) once said they would never bring their kids to my old place because of the oleander in the front yard (she was a doctor) so I went to great efforts to kill and and remove it but they still didn’t bring their kids to my place.

BlueGreen, you forgot to place quotation marks around the word friends in that post…

like I said, they are no longer people I consider friends although I hold no animosity towards them.

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

bluegreen said:

they be indigenous there perhaps?

of course oleanders are not the only poisonous plant you find in the garden.

friends I had once (no longer but for other reasons) once said they would never bring their kids to my old place because of the oleander in the front yard (she was a doctor) so I went to great efforts to kill and and remove it but they still didn’t bring their kids to my place.

BlueGreen, you forgot to place quotation marks around the word friends in that post…

like I said, they are no longer people I consider friends although I hold no animosity towards them.

I was avoiding answering this part of the question.. We are all gardeners, right? I respect the desire to grow Oleander as much as you should respect my right to grow Kennedia.

I’ll relate this anecdorte: A couple came to visit at the same time as a caouple of male friends were here.. of course this left her, footloose and fancy free. So what did she do? She pulled one weed from my front garden and was observed hauling the 3m dia specimen to my compost heap.. When asked WTF do you think you are up to?! She said; “I was just pulling this weed from your garden”

aghast

all I could say as under my breath as I could was KYFH off my Kennedia!

pepe said:

pain master said:

pepe said:

hang on i’ll ask ….
ms pepe says they are fire resistant and easy care. i leave her to sort the ornamentals out but – the fire bit makes sense because it is on the windy west. they have to be drought tolerant and hardy because ms pepe is el slacko when it comes to the front garden – and i’m worse.

do you plan on planting anything underneath or around the base of the Oleanders?

probably … why?

just think they’re an odd choice for a raised garden bed like that… I’d be planting something edible in there. Em tasol.

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

probably … why?

Probably because nothing will grow, you’ll only waste money on it. I’m not an oleander fan.

i’ve just dug a 100 poppy seedlings out of the red onion bed and guess where i’ve planted them.
20 cents says they be growing in with the oleanders by late spring.

they will this year. Those Oleanders are tiny now…

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

yeah ok – but all italians might think you a little paranoid. they’ve got thousands of oleander trees growing on the isle of capri – and never a recorded poisoning.

It’s not the poison that bothers me…it’s the fact that there’s other indigenous plants you can grow, that won’t carry bushfire ashes, look attractive, encourage the birds and don’t require “pruning” (read cutting down to the ground) year after year with a chainsaw (if you’re lucky to own a chainsaw).

Sorry Pepe, it’s your garden after all, by all means grow them and enjoy them, but oleanders, for me, have passed their use by date as a useful plant in Australia…

I love Cook trees, a relative of Oleanders, but these are now considered a pest. Cook trees only grew to a nice shrubby size and shape and as near as I can tell, never escaped to become environmental pests…sadly their “poison” component has led to them becoming illegals…

There’s a row of Cook Trees on the footpath around the corner. I’ve asked the council to remove them but they wont. They are #1 on the dangerous for children tree list. One seed can kill a young child.

I’ve been told the reason there aren’t fatalities from Oleander is because it tastes foul. A friend’s pet goat managed to eat some and it died.

I just personally don’t like them much. I find the perfume overpowering.

pepe said:

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

P1 – plenty spuds being planted now in damp soil to avoid summer watering. the photo also shows the pesky soursob that invades everything.

P2 – some nice savoy cabbages coming on

P3 – the paving project and one of the planter boxes with two oleanders just planted.

Oleanders??? You’re growing oleanders?!

Me no like, Okay?

yeah ok – but all italians might think you a little paranoid. they’ve got thousands of oleander trees growing on the isle of capri – and never a recorded poisoning.

on this Island of Capri, why have they got thousands of ‘em?

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

yeah ok – but all italians might think you a little paranoid. they’ve got thousands of oleander trees growing on the isle of capri – and never a recorded poisoning.

It’s not the poison that bothers me…it’s the fact that there’s other indigenous plants you can grow, that won’t carry bushfire ashes, look attractive, encourage the birds and don’t require “pruning” (read cutting down to the ground) year after year with a chainsaw (if you’re lucky to own a chainsaw).

Sorry Pepe, it’s your garden after all, by all means grow them and enjoy them, but oleanders, for me, have passed their use by date as a useful plant in Australia…

I love Cook trees, a relative of Oleanders, but these are now considered a pest. Cook trees only grew to a nice shrubby size and shape and as near as I can tell, never escaped to become environmental pests…sadly their “poison” component has led to them becoming illegals…

The ones here are definately trees, not shrubs.

pepe said:

…and another thing – there’s several oleanders growing on a highway near here that i pass by every week – and hey – no carcases – no dead birds dogs people or cats!

no one mentioned the fact they were poisonous…. up until now.

pepe said:

Dinetta said:

The GFC was most certainly caused by lies on top of lies…our business is a victim…altho’ we most certainly didn’t lie…

Ronald Reagan’s govt has a lot to answer for…but I digress from Pepe’s garden…sorry Pepe…

the other trees are the curry leaf tree (murraya koenigii) and the chinese pistachio (pitacia chinensis). we are using all these planter boxes trees etc to protect the western kitchen wall from the weather as well as to hide the gas bottles and hot water from the street view.

the oleanders are on the south side of the house and in shadow of the porch so they may have a hard time growing – altho the western sun should save them and the poppies (i’m hoping).

Cut the flowers off the curry tree before they seed, unless you want them by the millions.

roughbarked said:

Now I’ll ask you to show me evidence of blue wrens or others of the small native birds ilk, nesting in and otherwise utilising Oleanders.

My time to raise my hand I guess….

You should see the native birds in my ahem Oleander.

http://www.chw.edu.au/parents/factsheets/poisonous_plants.htm

OK, here’s the official PM point of view on Oleanders and not just in particular to Mr Pepe and his patch.

Growing up the son of a Horticulturist and being ever so keen to learn, it was the Oleander which became one of the first plants that I learnt was poisonous… so as a boy and going to a school with Oleanders in the grounds, I felt it was my responsibility to educate my peers and make sure that none of the silly unedumacated buggas got poisoned. Let it be known that in the years I attended that school, not one child died on my shift. I continued my interest in the poisonous trees and flowers of my school yards and soon discovered a Datura growing in the bicycle park of my high school… now I too can assure that not one teenager became blind or died from Datura poisoning during my time there.

So Oleanders became a cornerstone in my Horticultural life.

Years later as a young man I worked amongst roses, grasses, pines and oleanders and I have killed some, but I have saved some too. One time in the mountains behind Cairns a lady designed a garden to which I planted, and adapted, and maintained. She told me that the existing Oleander should be removed because of how violently dangerous the toxins were and that there should be a worldwide eradication plan to save the planet and the children upon this earth. She said I would be responsible.

I told her that the toxin that lives within Oleanders that kills so many children is the same toxin in Plumeria. I asked her if we should campaign against the flowering emblem of the Pacific, from Singapore to Hawaii and beyond?

Anywho, I mentioned before, I have an Oleander in my garden. To date, I have only died twice and GF once from scratching ourselfs carelessly on its limbs. One time, I thought I was going to die twice from the same wound!!!

But, today, I say a Grey Fantail, a Double Barred Finch, and a Yellow Honeyeater amongst its limbs. It is also home to some pretty amazing Crysalids, which are golden in colour and look like Midas Skulls.

Now in regards to Pepe’s garden. That looks like a great garden bed for vegetables. I’d go plant the Olies out in a garden bed/patch somewhere. They can get huge and that bed doesn’t look big enough.

It’s said to be dangerous to burn it and breath in the smoke but I can’t find anything from a reliable source.

Now in regards to Pepe’s garden. That looks like a great garden bed for vegetables. I’d go plant the Olies out in a garden bed/patch somewhere. They can get huge and that bed doesn’t look big enough.

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nice story oh master.

both of mine are nerium oleander – bubbas caution list.

my curry tree gets to 5 metres the others are potentially huge as well.
don’t worry – the roots will be naturally curtailed by the old driveway below (that i did bust up in part for drainage), the size of the bed, the prevailing winds, the lack of sun – and my general lack of interest when i’m dead in 40 years time.

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

Dinetta said:

The GFC was most certainly caused by lies on top of lies…our business is a victim…altho’ we most certainly didn’t lie…

Ronald Reagan’s govt has a lot to answer for…but I digress from Pepe’s garden…sorry Pepe…

the other trees are the curry leaf tree (murraya koenigii) and the chinese pistachio (pitacia chinensis). we are using all these planter boxes trees etc to protect the western kitchen wall from the weather as well as to hide the gas bottles and hot water from the street view.

the oleanders are on the south side of the house and in shadow of the porch so they may have a hard time growing – altho the western sun should save them and the poppies (i’m hoping).

Cut the flowers off the curry tree before they seed, unless you want them by the millions.

There are lots of weedy (as in, on empty lots, council land etc) curry trees dotted around my suburb :( I was walking in an older part of the suburb (houses maube 100 years old – old for here!) and I saw a really massive old curry tree in someone’s backyard, and I wondered whether it was the original and all the others came from there??

pepe said:

Now in regards to Pepe’s garden. That looks like a great garden bed for vegetables. I’d go plant the Olies out in a garden bed/patch somewhere. They can get huge and that bed doesn’t look big enough.

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nice story oh master.

both of mine are nerium oleander – bubbas caution list.

my curry tree gets to 5 metres the others are potentially huge as well.
don’t worry – the roots will be naturally curtailed by the old driveway below (that i did bust up in part for drainage), the size of the bed, the prevailing winds, the lack of sun – and my general lack of interest when i’m dead in 40 years time.

I keep my curry tree cut to a size I can reach.

bon008 said:

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

the other trees are the curry leaf tree (murraya koenigii) and the chinese pistachio (pitacia chinensis). we are using all these planter boxes trees etc to protect the western kitchen wall from the weather as well as to hide the gas bottles and hot water from the street view.

the oleanders are on the south side of the house and in shadow of the porch so they may have a hard time growing – altho the western sun should save them and the poppies (i’m hoping).

Cut the flowers off the curry tree before they seed, unless you want them by the millions.

There are lots of weedy (as in, on empty lots, council land etc) curry trees dotted around my suburb :( I was walking in an older part of the suburb (houses maube 100 years old – old for here!) and I saw a really massive old curry tree in someone’s backyard, and I wondered whether it was the original and all the others came from there??

They certainly have weed potential.

bubba louie said:

bon008 said:

bubba louie said:

Cut the flowers off the curry tree before they seed, unless you want them by the millions.

There are lots of weedy (as in, on empty lots, council land etc) curry trees dotted around my suburb :( I was walking in an older part of the suburb (houses maube 100 years old – old for here!) and I saw a really massive old curry tree in someone’s backyard, and I wondered whether it was the original and all the others came from there??

They certainly have weed potential.

Yep, although if I wanted to cook with them, I wouldn’t let it stop me having on in the garden. It’s not hard to keep them under control and stop them spreading. But since I think they smell utterly disgusting, I gave mine away :D (of course, I gave full instructions to the recipient on how to stop them spreading – hope he’s obeying my instructions!)

pepe said:

Now in regards to Pepe’s garden. That looks like a great garden bed for vegetables. I’d go plant the Olies out in a garden bed/patch somewhere. They can get huge and that bed doesn’t look big enough.

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nice story oh master.

both of mine are nerium oleander – bubbas caution list.

my curry tree gets to 5 metres the others are potentially huge as well.
don’t worry – the roots will be naturally curtailed by the old driveway below (that i did bust up in part for drainage), the size of the bed, the prevailing winds, the lack of sun – and my general lack of interest when i’m dead in 40 years time.

your curry tree won’t get that tall, you’ll be using too many leafs once it gets going! Continual pruning will keep it in check.

bon008 said:

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

the other trees are the curry leaf tree (murraya koenigii) and the chinese pistachio (pitacia chinensis). we are using all these planter boxes trees etc to protect the western kitchen wall from the weather as well as to hide the gas bottles and hot water from the street view.

the oleanders are on the south side of the house and in shadow of the porch so they may have a hard time growing – altho the western sun should save them and the poppies (i’m hoping).

Cut the flowers off the curry tree before they seed, unless you want them by the millions.

There are lots of weedy (as in, on empty lots, council land etc) curry trees dotted around my suburb :( I was walking in an older part of the suburb (houses maube 100 years old – old for here!) and I saw a really massive old curry tree in someone’s backyard, and I wondered whether it was the original and all the others came from there??

You sure they’re Curry Trees and not Mock Orange?

pain master said:

bon008 said:

bubba louie said:

Cut the flowers off the curry tree before they seed, unless you want them by the millions.

There are lots of weedy (as in, on empty lots, council land etc) curry trees dotted around my suburb :( I was walking in an older part of the suburb (houses maube 100 years old – old for here!) and I saw a really massive old curry tree in someone’s backyard, and I wondered whether it was the original and all the others came from there??

You sure they’re Curry Trees and not Mock Orange?

Some of them (that I can get close to), yep, pretty sure. The big one in the backyard – no, not that sure from the distance I was at.

pain master said:

pepe said:

Now in regards to Pepe’s garden. That looks like a great garden bed for vegetables. I’d go plant the Olies out in a garden bed/patch somewhere. They can get huge and that bed doesn’t look big enough.

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nice story oh master.

both of mine are nerium oleander – bubbas caution list.

my curry tree gets to 5 metres the others are potentially huge as well.
don’t worry – the roots will be naturally curtailed by the old driveway below (that i did bust up in part for drainage), the size of the bed, the prevailing winds, the lack of sun – and my general lack of interest when i’m dead in 40 years time.

your curry tree won’t get that tall, you’ll be using too many leafs once it gets going! Continual pruning will keep it in check.

You’d have to use an awful lot. I cut branches off mine just to keep it small.

I did visit the Isle of Capri about 3 years ago – on tour with 40 others of whom about 8 were Aussies and the rest British and American.
The Tour guide was a smartass metrosexual Caprician, with perfect English and a swarmy sense of humour. He mentioned, in passing, that Aussies had gone beserk over the oleander and had banned it. None of us Aussies retorted.
Why are there so many oleanders in Capri? I don’t know but the island was once very fashionable. It was fashionable in Sophi Loren’s heyday, when Frank Sinatra sang ‘Arrivaderci Roma’ and the millionaires played in Havana on the other side of the world. It’s like a sad, old, drunken, sunken shadow of its former self now – much like Havana.

My guess is the oleander was perfectly suited to the sea and the fashion during the island’s heyday – so they planted it as a theme down all the streets and alleys.

bubba louie said:

pain master said:

pepe said:

Now in regards to Pepe’s garden. That looks like a great garden bed for vegetables. I’d go plant the Olies out in a garden bed/patch somewhere. They can get huge and that bed doesn’t look big enough.

—————————————-

nice story oh master.

both of mine are nerium oleander – bubbas caution list.

my curry tree gets to 5 metres the others are potentially huge as well.
don’t worry – the roots will be naturally curtailed by the old driveway below (that i did bust up in part for drainage), the size of the bed, the prevailing winds, the lack of sun – and my general lack of interest when i’m dead in 40 years time.

your curry tree won’t get that tall, you’ll be using too many leafs once it gets going! Continual pruning will keep it in check.

You’d have to use an awful lot. I cut branches off mine just to keep it small.

never been able to grow one larger then 1 metre.

pepe said:

I did visit the Isle of Capri about 3 years ago – on tour with 40 others of whom about 8 were Aussies and the rest British and American.
The Tour guide was a smartass metrosexual Caprician, with perfect English and a swarmy sense of humour. He mentioned, in passing, that Aussies had gone beserk over the oleander and had banned it. None of us Aussies retorted.
Why are there so many oleanders in Capri? I don’t know but the island was once very fashionable. It was fashionable in Sophi Loren’s heyday, when Frank Sinatra sang ‘Arrivaderci Roma’ and the millionaires played in Havana on the other side of the world. It’s like a sad, old, drunken, sunken shadow of its former self now – much like Havana.

My guess is the oleander was perfectly suited to the sea and the fashion during the island’s heyday – so they planted it as a theme down all the streets and alleys.

Have you been to Havana?

pain master said:

pepe said:

I did visit the Isle of Capri about 3 years ago – on tour with 40 others of whom about 8 were Aussies and the rest British and American.
The Tour guide was a smartass metrosexual Caprician, with perfect English and a swarmy sense of humour. He mentioned, in passing, that Aussies had gone beserk over the oleander and had banned it. None of us Aussies retorted.
Why are there so many oleanders in Capri? I don’t know but the island was once very fashionable. It was fashionable in Sophi Loren’s heyday, when Frank Sinatra sang ‘Arrivaderci Roma’ and the millionaires played in Havana on the other side of the world. It’s like a sad, old, drunken, sunken shadow of its former self now – much like Havana.

My guess is the oleander was perfectly suited to the sea and the fashion during the island’s heyday – so they planted it as a theme down all the streets and alleys.

Have you been to Havana?

no, but i must have seen images because the recall was there, as i sketched the old buildings in capri..
i was in jamaica for a while and the history of kingston town is similar to havana.

pepe said:

pain master said:

pepe said:

I did visit the Isle of Capri about 3 years ago – on tour with 40 others of whom about 8 were Aussies and the rest British and American.
The Tour guide was a smartass metrosexual Caprician, with perfect English and a swarmy sense of humour. He mentioned, in passing, that Aussies had gone beserk over the oleander and had banned it. None of us Aussies retorted.
Why are there so many oleanders in Capri? I don’t know but the island was once very fashionable. It was fashionable in Sophi Loren’s heyday, when Frank Sinatra sang ‘Arrivaderci Roma’ and the millionaires played in Havana on the other side of the world. It’s like a sad, old, drunken, sunken shadow of its former self now – much like Havana.

My guess is the oleander was perfectly suited to the sea and the fashion during the island’s heyday – so they planted it as a theme down all the streets and alleys.

Have you been to Havana?

no, but i must have seen images because the recall was there, as i sketched the old buildings in capri..
i was in jamaica for a while and the history of kingston town is similar to havana.

my FIL was one of Australia’s first landscape designers, and as a young man, he sailed to Italy and sketched, and painted for many months. His paintings of Italy are lovely.

Dean Martin sang ‘arrivederci roma’ – sorry dino.

pain master said:

bubba louie said:

pain master said:

your curry tree won’t get that tall, you’ll be using too many leafs once it gets going! Continual pruning will keep it in check.

You’d have to use an awful lot. I cut branches off mine just to keep it small.

never been able to grow one larger then 1 metre.

Bizarre

bon008 said:

bubba louie said:

bon008 said:

There are lots of weedy (as in, on empty lots, council land etc) curry trees dotted around my suburb :( I was walking in an older part of the suburb (houses maube 100 years old – old for here!) and I saw a really massive old curry tree in someone’s backyard, and I wondered whether it was the original and all the others came from there??

They certainly have weed potential.

Yep, although if I wanted to cook with them, I wouldn’t let it stop me having on in the garden. It’s not hard to keep them under control and stop them spreading. But since I think they smell utterly disgusting, I gave mine away :D (of course, I gave full instructions to the recipient on how to stop them spreading – hope he’s obeying my instructions!)

Funny you should mention the smell, cause we call it the burnout plant, cause it reminds us of someone burning out their tyres on the road…I have a very small one in a pot I was given, but yet to try a recipe with them.

Muschee said:

bon008 said:

bubba louie said:

They certainly have weed potential.

Yep, although if I wanted to cook with them, I wouldn’t let it stop me having on in the garden. It’s not hard to keep them under control and stop them spreading. But since I think they smell utterly disgusting, I gave mine away :D (of course, I gave full instructions to the recipient on how to stop them spreading – hope he’s obeying my instructions!)

Funny you should mention the smell, cause we call it the burnout plant, cause it reminds us of someone burning out their tyres on the road…I have a very small one in a pot I was given, but yet to try a recipe with them.

I think it’s one of those things that differs for each person – I know several people who describe the smell as mild, and several who find it repulsive, like I do.

Muschee said:

bon008 said:

bubba louie said:

They certainly have weed potential.

Yep, although if I wanted to cook with them, I wouldn’t let it stop me having on in the garden. It’s not hard to keep them under control and stop them spreading. But since I think they smell utterly disgusting, I gave mine away :D (of course, I gave full instructions to the recipient on how to stop them spreading – hope he’s obeying my instructions!)

Funny you should mention the smell, cause we call it the burnout plant, cause it reminds us of someone burning out their tyres on the road…I have a very small one in a pot I was given, but yet to try a recipe with them.

Don’t let the smell put you off. It’s really good in dhal, not strong at all, it just adds something.

bon008 said:

Muschee said:

bon008 said:

Yep, although if I wanted to cook with them, I wouldn’t let it stop me having on in the garden. It’s not hard to keep them under control and stop them spreading. But since I think they smell utterly disgusting, I gave mine away :D (of course, I gave full instructions to the recipient on how to stop them spreading – hope he’s obeying my instructions!)

Funny you should mention the smell, cause we call it the burnout plant, cause it reminds us of someone burning out their tyres on the road…I have a very small one in a pot I was given, but yet to try a recipe with them.

I think it’s one of those things that differs for each person – I know several people who describe the smell as mild, and several who find it repulsive, like I do.

It doesn’t taste like it smells.

pain master said:

roughbarked said:

Now I’ll ask you to show me evidence of blue wrens or others of the small native birds ilk, nesting in and otherwise utilising Oleanders.

My time to raise my hand I guess….

You should see the native birds in my ahem Oleander.

Of course they will nest there if there is the closest place with good cover near food supplies.

But photos please, or it didn’t happen ;)

pain master said:

OK, here’s the official PM point of view on Oleanders and not just in particular to Mr Pepe and his patch.

:)

pain master said:

But, today, I say a Grey Fantail, a Double Barred Finch, and a Yellow Honeyeater amongst its limbs. It is also home to some pretty amazing Crysalids, which are golden in colour and look like Midas Skulls.

Not having any Oleanders here, I cannot say much about what they harbour unless I study them down the road somewhere.

pain master said:

Now in regards to Pepe’s garden. That looks like a great garden bed for vegetables. I’d go plant the Olies out in a garden bed/patch somewhere. They can get huge and that bed doesn’t look big enough.

My point exactly. They get huge and waste good garden space on a plant which is bloody useless as anything else other than a waste of good garden space.

bubba louie said:

It’s said to be dangerous to burn it and breath in the smoke but I can’t find anything from a reliable source.

Yes the most likely instance of poisoning is the smoke. People aren’t going to eat it and children usually stay away from things that may make them ill if parents have warned them. Contrary to popular belief, scratching youself on it isn’t as dangerous as licking the wound or eating food with the sap on your hands. However in my inital link on its toxicity, it is said that it normally causes a violent reaction to puge the body of it. So there would be few instances of deaths from ingesting it.

Why can’t you find evidence? Because people generally plant it as a hedge way away down at their fenceline and it doesn’t need pruning.

forgetting the ollies for the moment

I have preserved the red capsicums that i would have wasted normally. so thanks to HP and BL for the clues
P1 – this many bits ending up being just one jar – and i cut them because i wanted to inspect them.
P2 – my first attempt at preserving roast caps and here is my first mistake – you should put them in a plastic bag to sweat to make the peeling easy. i had to put them back on the barby to char more, then bag ‘em, peel ‘em and bottle them.
P3 – these new hall navels are our first – plus lemons and limes are starting to ripen now. ms pepe is talking lemon butter in bulk?

pepe said:

forgetting the ollies for the moment

I have preserved the red capsicums that i would have wasted normally. so thanks to HP and BL for the clues
P1 – this many bits ending up being just one jar – and i cut them because i wanted to inspect them.
P2 – my first attempt at preserving roast caps and here is my first mistake – you should put them in a plastic bag to sweat to make the peeling easy. i had to put them back on the barby to char more, then bag ‘em, peel ‘em and bottle them.

P1 – yep should inspect for things like fruit fly and other things, first.. best to use only unblemished fruits for this.
P2 – yep, I’m surprised you weren’t given this information at the beginning.

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

forgetting the ollies for the moment

I have preserved the red capsicums that i would have wasted normally. so thanks to HP and BL for the clues
P1 – this many bits ending up being just one jar – and i cut them because i wanted to inspect them.
P2 – my first attempt at preserving roast caps and here is my first mistake – you should put them in a plastic bag to sweat to make the peeling easy. i had to put them back on the barby to char more, then bag ‘em, peel ‘em and bottle them.

P1 – yep should inspect for things like fruit fly and other things, first.. best to use only unblemished fruits for this.
P2 – yep, I’m surprised you weren’t given this information at the beginning.

i was given the info – but i thought – “why are they putting it in a plastic bag?”

i takes a while to realise whats what on the first try.

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

pepe said:

forgetting the ollies for the moment

I have preserved the red capsicums that i would have wasted normally. so thanks to HP and BL for the clues
P1 – this many bits ending up being just one jar – and i cut them because i wanted to inspect them.
P2 – my first attempt at preserving roast caps and here is my first mistake – you should put them in a plastic bag to sweat to make the peeling easy. i had to put them back on the barby to char more, then bag ‘em, peel ‘em and bottle them.

P1 – yep should inspect for things like fruit fly and other things, first.. best to use only unblemished fruits for this.
P2 – yep, I’m surprised you weren’t given this information at the beginning.

i was given the info – but i thought – “why are they putting it in a plastic bag?”

i takes a while to realise whats what on the first try.

yes it’s a learning process :)
You can just layer them in a glass dish or bowl and cover with plastic, a spare lid that covers the dish is fine it doesn’t have to be air tight, just enough to keep the steam in.
What I do… inspect fruit as RB says..I don’t want to open it and find a cooked caterpillar, stick fruit on a carving fork and turn it over a flame till blackened.
Or whack em under a grill.
However, my (unskinned) capsicum relish is drawing accolades and is now a much wanted product every year.

Happy Potter said:

yes it’s a learning process :)
You can just layer them in a glass dish or bowl and cover with plastic, a spare lid that covers the dish is fine it doesn’t have to be air tight, just enough to keep the steam in.

good tip ;)
Happy Potter said:

What I do… inspect fruit as RB says..I don’t want to open it and find a cooked caterpillar, stick fruit on a carving fork and turn it over a flame till blackened.
Or whack em under a grill.

or get some hot coals going in the barbie and roll the capsicums on a grate over hot coals. :) works a treat while you are also having a barbie. Happy Potter said:

However, my (unskinned) capsicum relish is drawing accolades and is now a much wanted product every year.

A pity I can’t eat relish..

bubba louie said:

Muschee said:

bon008 said:

Yep, although if I wanted to cook with them, I wouldn’t let it stop me having on in the garden. It’s not hard to keep them under control and stop them spreading. But since I think they smell utterly disgusting, I gave mine away :D (of course, I gave full instructions to the recipient on how to stop them spreading – hope he’s obeying my instructions!)

Funny you should mention the smell, cause we call it the burnout plant, cause it reminds us of someone burning out their tyres on the road…I have a very small one in a pot I was given, but yet to try a recipe with them.

Don’t let the smell put you off. It’s really good in dhal, not strong at all, it just adds something.

Na I wouldn’t. Bad odours don’t really bothered me too much. Funnily I find this odour fascinating.

I do look forward to cooking with it…need to find some recipe’s. My little tree is big enough to start picking.

Muschee said:

bubba louie said:

Muschee said:

Funny you should mention the smell, cause we call it the burnout plant, cause it reminds us of someone burning out their tyres on the road…I have a very small one in a pot I was given, but yet to try a recipe with them.

Don’t let the smell put you off. It’s really good in dhal, not strong at all, it just adds something.

Na I wouldn’t. Bad odours don’t really bothered me too much. Funnily I find this odour fascinating.

I do look forward to cooking with it…need to find some recipe’s. My little tree is big enough to start picking.

Just make any old dhal recipe and fry a few in the oil with the spices.

bubba louie said:

Don’t let the smell put you off. It’s really good in dhal, not strong at all, it just adds something.

Oh, I absolutely do let the smell put me off. I couldn’t possibly eat something that smelt like that. It’s like if someone gave me a glass of something that smelt like bleach and told me to drink it, and that it was safe. No way.

roughbarked said:

pain master said:

roughbarked said:

Now I’ll ask you to show me evidence of blue wrens or others of the small native birds ilk, nesting in and otherwise utilising Oleanders.

My time to raise my hand I guess….

You should see the native birds in my ahem Oleander.

Of course they will nest there if there is the closest place with good cover near food supplies.

But photos please, or it didn’t happen ;)

guess its time to sit quietly by the Oleander. With me camera. But not today. It is raining. In June? I know!

Muschee said:

bubba louie said:

Muschee said:

Funny you should mention the smell, cause we call it the burnout plant, cause it reminds us of someone burning out their tyres on the road…I have a very small one in a pot I was given, but yet to try a recipe with them.

Don’t let the smell put you off. It’s really good in dhal, not strong at all, it just adds something.

Na I wouldn’t. Bad odours don’t really bothered me too much. Funnily I find this odour fascinating.

I do look forward to cooking with it…need to find some recipe’s. My little tree is big enough to start picking.

Sri Lankan cooking is big on the use of Curry Leafs and also the Indians who live to the south of their country… Reuben (Husband of Charmaine) Solomon is one of the finest exponents of Sri Lankan curries.

The Hindi word is kitha neem or karipattar.

However, my (unskinned) capsicum relish is drawing accolades and is now a much wanted product every year.
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oh – well i’ve run out of capsicums for the moment – so the relish will wait.

are you still picking caps?

pepe said:

However, my (unskinned) capsicum relish is drawing accolades and is now a much wanted product every year.
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oh – well i’ve run out of capsicums for the moment – so the relish will wait.

are you still picking caps?

The smaller longer yellow ones, yes. But the bigger bell capsicums have finished and I’ve pulled them out.

pepe said:

roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

yeah and then build a freeway over it

So my comment was bland.

OK people who plant oleanders should get the same treatment or at the bare minimum sent to a rehabilitation clinic until they get it out of their system.

Repeat offenders get the concrete highway on top

go away

gums are poisonous you know and they burn your house down after they’ve killed you and every living thing that tries to grow under them

pomolo!! – they’re picking on me as soon as you left LOL

I’m still with you Pepe. I happen to like oleanders too. I have 3 of them at my p[lace. You lot leave my new best friend Pepe alone. Or else!!!!!

I’m still with you Pepe. I happen to like oleanders too. I have 3 of them at my p[lace. You lot leave my new best friend Pepe alone. Or else!!!!!
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yay – welcome back to the rescue.
how was the ‘big smoke’?

pepe said:

I’m still with you Pepe. I happen to like oleanders too. I have 3 of them at my p

I think she’s still there.

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

I’m still with you Pepe. I happen to like oleanders too. I have 3 of them at my p

I think she’s still there.

she’s an impressive woman isn’t she? – here, there, everywhere at once LOL.

bubba louie said:

There’s a row of Cook Trees on the footpath around the corner. I’ve asked the council to remove them but they wont. They are #1 on the dangerous for children tree list. One seed can kill a young child.

We played under Cook Trees at my school. We knew that they were poisonous. Even in Grade 1. So we didn’t eat them and they would still be there if it wasn’t for “political correctness” about their poisonous attributes.

roughbarked said:

My point exactly. They get huge and waste good garden space on a plant which is bloody useless as anything else other than a waste of good garden space.

They are a pain to continually hack … neighbours had ‘em down our driveway and I was forever hacking them back…long story as to why I was doing it… flats next door and landlord could not be persuaded that they were a nuisance…they originally provided shade on the western side of a tennis court (before the flats)….grrr grrr grrr…

pepe said:

forgetting the ollies for the moment

I have preserved the red capsicums that i would have wasted normally. so thanks to HP and BL for the clues
P1 – this many bits ending up being just one jar – and i cut them because i wanted to inspect them.
P2 – my first attempt at preserving roast caps and here is my first mistake – you should put them in a plastic bag to sweat to make the peeling easy. i had to put them back on the barby to char more, then bag ‘em, peel ‘em and bottle them.
P3 – these new hall navels are our first – plus lemons and limes are starting to ripen now. ms pepe is talking lemon butter in bulk?

Ahem!