Date: 20/10/2011 13:10:07
From: bubba louie
ID: 140485
Subject: HopStop

What the RSPCA told me.

Hopstop appears to be sufficiently humane to be recommended by the RSPCA. Hopstop contains an amphibian anaesthetic along with its lethal ingredient. Cane toads display some signs of distress after being sprayed (trying to bur…row into the ground, limb movements and urination) but not more severe ones such as toxin secretion and gastric eversion. Also, following spraying the heart rate steadily slows in comparison to an increase following some other treatments such as Dettol. The toads become unconscious within 2-5 minutes and die within the next 45 minutes without gaining consciousness.

Hopstop is easy and practical to use. The instructions must be followed and the cane toads disposed of following their death. The spray will kill other amphibians and fish if used indiscriminately.

The other method RSPCA advocates is Stepped Hypothermia (basically placing the toad carefully in a plastic bag, and putting in refrigerator for 12 hours at 4 degrees – this anaesthetises it. Then the toad can be placed in the freezer for at least 24 hours – this will painlessly kill the toad. We then advocated burying the body deep enough that other animals can’t dig it up.)

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Date: 20/10/2011 13:14:38
From: Dinetta
ID: 140487
Subject: re: HopStop

bubba louie said:


What the RSPCA told me.

Hopstop appears to be sufficiently humane to be recommended by the RSPCA. Hopstop contains an amphibian anaesthetic along with its lethal ingredient. Cane toads display some signs of distress after being sprayed (trying to bur…row into the ground, limb movements and urination) but not more severe ones such as toxin secretion and gastric eversion. Also, following spraying the heart rate steadily slows in comparison to an increase following some other treatments such as Dettol. The toads become unconscious within 2-5 minutes and die within the next 45 minutes without gaining consciousness.

Hopstop is easy and practical to use. The instructions must be followed and the cane toads disposed of following their death. The spray will kill other amphibians and fish if used indiscriminately.

The other method RSPCA advocates is Stepped Hypothermia (basically placing the toad carefully in a plastic bag, and putting in refrigerator for 12 hours at 4 degrees – this anaesthetises it. Then the toad can be placed in the freezer for at least 24 hours – this will painlessly kill the toad. We then advocated burying the body deep enough that other animals can’t dig it up.)

Still a fan of “stepped Hypothermia” (remember when I wasn’t?) What I really need is to make a little “fishing net” with sinkers, to throw over them as they hop away…

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Date: 20/10/2011 13:17:40
From: bubba louie
ID: 140488
Subject: re: HopStop

Dinetta said:


bubba louie said:

What the RSPCA told me.

Hopstop appears to be sufficiently humane to be recommended by the RSPCA. Hopstop contains an amphibian anaesthetic along with its lethal ingredient. Cane toads display some signs of distress after being sprayed (trying to bur…row into the ground, limb movements and urination) but not more severe ones such as toxin secretion and gastric eversion. Also, following spraying the heart rate steadily slows in comparison to an increase following some other treatments such as Dettol. The toads become unconscious within 2-5 minutes and die within the next 45 minutes without gaining consciousness.

Hopstop is easy and practical to use. The instructions must be followed and the cane toads disposed of following their death. The spray will kill other amphibians and fish if used indiscriminately.

The other method RSPCA advocates is Stepped Hypothermia (basically placing the toad carefully in a plastic bag, and putting in refrigerator for 12 hours at 4 degrees – this anaesthetises it. Then the toad can be placed in the freezer for at least 24 hours – this will painlessly kill the toad. We then advocated burying the body deep enough that other animals can’t dig it up.)

Still a fan of “stepped Hypothermia” (remember when I wasn’t?) What I really need is to make a little “fishing net” with sinkers, to throw over them as they hop away…

Yes I do remember. :)

I’m going to stick with the fridge/freezer too.

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Date: 20/10/2011 19:11:30
From: painmaster
ID: 140498
Subject: re: HopStop

bubba louie said:


Dinetta said:

bubba louie said:

What the RSPCA told me.

Hopstop appears to be sufficiently humane to be recommended by the RSPCA. Hopstop contains an amphibian anaesthetic along with its lethal ingredient. Cane toads display some signs of distress after being sprayed (trying to bur…row into the ground, limb movements and urination) but not more severe ones such as toxin secretion and gastric eversion. Also, following spraying the heart rate steadily slows in comparison to an increase following some other treatments such as Dettol. The toads become unconscious within 2-5 minutes and die within the next 45 minutes without gaining consciousness.

Hopstop is easy and practical to use. The instructions must be followed and the cane toads disposed of following their death. The spray will kill other amphibians and fish if used indiscriminately.

The other method RSPCA advocates is Stepped Hypothermia (basically placing the toad carefully in a plastic bag, and putting in refrigerator for 12 hours at 4 degrees – this anaesthetises it. Then the toad can be placed in the freezer for at least 24 hours – this will painlessly kill the toad. We then advocated burying the body deep enough that other animals can’t dig it up.)

Still a fan of “stepped Hypothermia” (remember when I wasn’t?) What I really need is to make a little “fishing net” with sinkers, to throw over them as they hop away…

Yes I do remember. :)

I’m going to stick with the fridge/freezer too.

I might try some HopStop. However a spade severing the head from the body kills the toad in a fraction of a second.

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Date: 20/10/2011 19:22:33
From: Dinetta
ID: 140501
Subject: re: HopStop

painmaster said:

I might try some HopStop. However a spade severing the head from the body kills the toad in a fraction of a second.

What, do they stand still and wait for the unkind chop??

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Date: 20/10/2011 19:35:29
From: painmaster
ID: 140503
Subject: re: HopStop

Dinetta said:


painmaster said:

I might try some HopStop. However a spade severing the head from the body kills the toad in a fraction of a second.

What, do they stand still and wait for the unkind chop??

they sure do… toads up here are a bit slow.

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Date: 20/10/2011 19:36:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 140504
Subject: re: HopStop

Dinetta said:


painmaster said:

I might try some HopStop. However a spade severing the head from the body kills the toad in a fraction of a second.

What, do they stand still and wait for the unkind chop??

They allow the golf club to strike them.

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Date: 20/10/2011 19:52:07
From: Dinetta
ID: 140508
Subject: re: HopStop

painmaster said:


Dinetta said:

painmaster said:

I might try some HopStop. However a spade severing the head from the body kills the toad in a fraction of a second.

What, do they stand still and wait for the unkind chop??

Yeah, well, mine are a special breed…they can spot a threat at 10 paces and bolt like greased lightning…it was only during this winter, when they’d slowed right down, that I was able to gather them in quantities for the Stepped thingummy treatmemt…

they sure do… toads up here are a bit slow.

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Date: 20/10/2011 19:53:16
From: Dinetta
ID: 140509
Subject: re: HopStop

Dinetta said:


painmaster said:

Dinetta said:

What, do they stand still and wait for the unkind chop??

they sure do… toads up here are a bit slow.


Yeah, well, mine are a special breed…they can spot a threat at 10 paces and bolt like greased lightning…it was only during this winter, when they’d slowed right down, that I was able to gather them in quantities for the Stepped thingummy treatment…

drat…

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