Date: 11/05/2012 17:25:26
From: Divine Angel
ID: 155059
Subject: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

http://www.abc.net.au/health/thepulse/stories/2012/05/09/3471672.htm

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From the supermarket to the service station, if you’ve walked into a grocery store lately then chances are you’ve seen, and possibly even bought, an energy drink.

Around 20 per cent of beverages sold in Australian convenience stores are energy drinks. Given that the drinks claim to improve performance, alertness and concentration, it’s hardly surprising that their target market is young people, especially students and athletes.

Energy drinks get their kick from a range of ingredients including caffeine; herbal extracts, such as guarana and ginseng; and amino acids, such as taurine.

It’s the amount of caffeine in energy drinks that’s causing concern – the average energy drink contains 80mg of caffeine, and critics argue that some contain up to 300mg of caffeine (that’s equivalent to five cups of coffee). Experts are worried an increasing number of this group are experiencing nasty side effects after they drink large quantities of energy drinks, or when they drink them mixed with alcohol.
Adverse effects

When you ingest caffeine, it stimulates the body’s fight or flight response, producing a surge of adrenaline.

If our bodies are subjected to too much adrenaline, we can experience seizures, chest pain, heart palpitations and agitation – these are all signs of caffeine toxicity.

When Dr Naren Gunja, medical director of NSW Poisons and clinical toxicologist at Westmead Hospital, saw a case of caffeine toxicity in an emergency ward he decided to formally investigate the effects of caffeinated energy drinks.

He found that between 2004 and 2010 there were around 300 calls made to the NSW Poisons Information Centre regarding toxicity – or poisoning – related to the consumption of energy drinks. Reports rose from 12 calls in 2004 to 65 calls in 2010. The vast majority of these related to ‘recreational’ use of energy drinks, with affected ‘recreational users’ aged 15 to 21 years.

The number of energy drinks consumed in one session varied, but ranged from one to 80 – the mid-point (median) was five.

Importantly, almost half of these so-called recreational users had also ingested alcohol, caffeine tablets, ecstasy and amphetamines or other caffeinated beverages at the same time.

“This suggests that knowledge of energy drink effects and toxicity is poor, and mixing of substances is not seen as a problem in this cohort of adolescents and young adults,” Gunja and colleagues wrote in the Medical Journal of Australia.

“We know mixing alcohol and caffeine is a big problem because it alters your perception and ability to sense how drunk you are. So they may say ‘I’m not that drunk, I’m wide awake’ because of caffeine, but they are actually quite intoxicated because of the alcohol.”

Gastrointestinal (stomach and gut) upsets and heart palpitations were among the most common symptoms in these reports. But there were also signs of serious caffeine toxicity including hallucinations, seizures and cardiac ischemia (where the heart muscle doesn’t receive enough blood).

“What was alarming was the types of things that were happening to people such as cardiac, neurological and behavioural effects,” Gunja says.

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Date: 11/05/2012 17:29:53
From: Bubble Car
ID: 155067
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

If these beverages are using mood-altering levels of drugs, they ought to be clearly classified as such.

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Date: 11/05/2012 17:34:22
From: Divine Angel
ID: 155070
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

It could be argued that any amount of caffeine is mood-altering. At the bottom of the article, it is stated that caffeine affects different people in different ways and that what it does to one person, it may not do to another.

As an example, I haven’t had caffeine* for more than two months, and one of those drinks would act as an overdose.

*I drank half a chai latte before I got jittery and realised it had frickin’ caffeine in it.

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Date: 11/05/2012 17:42:50
From: Ian
ID: 155080
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

A lot of truckies are using a heap of Red Bull etc.
They’re legalerer than amphetamines.

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Date: 11/05/2012 17:45:37
From: Divine Angel
ID: 155081
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

How do those energy drinks compare with caffeine tablets such as No-Doz?

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Date: 11/05/2012 17:46:14
From: Ian
ID: 155082
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

Divine Angel said:

As an example, I haven’t had caffeine* for more than two months, and one of those drinks would act as an overdose.

*I drank half a chai latte before I got jittery and realised it had frickin’ caffeine in it.

What a wimp.

I once drank coffee all night (lost count) before an exam and found myself hallucinating slightly in the morning.

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Date: 11/05/2012 17:48:13
From: Divine Angel
ID: 155083
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

Even before I gave up caffeine, I could only drink those energy drinks sparingly.

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Date: 11/05/2012 17:48:40
From: Ian
ID: 155084
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

Seriously tho, caffeine in quantity is nasty drug.. especially mixed with alcohol.

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Date: 11/05/2012 18:37:19
From: wookiemeister
ID: 155110
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

the caffeine / nicotine mix seems to me the worst mix

one fellah i know becomes wired when they smoke and drink these drinks.

the mind is disrupted , he has energy but the mind is racing in all directions without focus or direction, even simple instructions get garbled and forgotten

the nicotine on its own gives stamina but the mind still is over-revving. the problem with nicotine is that after a very short time the mind becomes preoccupied with the the next hit

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Date: 11/05/2012 18:40:26
From: sibeen
ID: 155112
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

>Seriously tho, caffeine in quantity is nasty drug.. especially mixed with alcohol.

I’ve always enjoyed the perhaps anecdotal story about Pablo Picasso and his coffee intake.

He was in his 80s and being interviewed by a young female journalist. His intake of short black coffees was supposedly prodigious and was drinking cup after cup during the interview. The journalist finally said to him, “don’t you realise that caffeine is a poison”.

He replied, deadpan, “It must be a fucking slow one”.

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Date: 11/05/2012 18:43:58
From: sibeen
ID: 155114
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

>the caffeine / nicotine mix seems to me the worst mix

Probably the reason that the way I am is the way I am.

Two packs a day and at least 8 coffees and a few cups of tea.

The misses complains that I survive on beer, cigarettes and coffee. My response, “well, that’s three food groups, what more do you want”!

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Date: 11/05/2012 18:47:43
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 155120
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

sibeen said:


Two packs a day

That’s very old school. No wonder you have been banished to the back shed.

:-)

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Date: 11/05/2012 18:49:40
From: wookiemeister
ID: 155121
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

nicotine is one of the hardest drugs to give up

the day you pay for your first pack is the day you are addicted

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Date: 11/05/2012 18:50:30
From: wookiemeister
ID: 155122
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

i don’t smoke myself i simply take surreptious licks of the skin of smokers to harvest the nicotine bounty

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Date: 11/05/2012 18:50:34
From: sibeen
ID: 155123
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

>the day you pay for your first pack is the day you are addicted

Does pinching them off your old man count?

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Date: 11/05/2012 18:52:24
From: wookiemeister
ID: 155124
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

sibeen said:


>the day you pay for your first pack is the day you are addicted

Does pinching them off your old man count?

no because the addiction hasn’t taken hold enough for you to actually pay for them. getting them from other sources isn’t reliable, a true addict needs the reassurance of the next hit.

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Date: 11/05/2012 18:54:36
From: sibeen
ID: 155126
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

Wookie, Wookie, Wookie, you have no idea how many I could pinch :)

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Date: 11/05/2012 18:55:15
From: Lex
ID: 155127
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

100 mg of caffeine improves the analgesic effect from a single dose of paracetamol or ibuprofen. That’s my excuse for having my panadol with a coke…

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Date: 11/05/2012 18:56:16
From: wookiemeister
ID: 155128
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

but it wasn’t reliable

a full blown addict would have to ba smoking at least a pack a day, he would have notice more than a few going missing

smokers are accutely aware of how many ciggies they have

i bet you would know within a few cigarettes exactly how many you have access to right now

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Date: 11/05/2012 18:58:16
From: wookiemeister
ID: 155129
Subject: re: Energy Drinks and Health Effects

5/6 packs of cigarettes is equivalent to a chest x ray thanks to the uranium and polonium 210 that you inhale with every hit.

if machines ruled the world of the matrix everyone would be smoking and the matrix would be harvesting nuclear power from the smokers of the world. neo would have been a 6 packs a day man

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