Date: 14/05/2012 22:01:43
From: brett
ID: 155809
Subject: Infinity

If t =0 then where is negative time?

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Date: 14/05/2012 22:04:12
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 155811
Subject: re: Infinity

>>>If t =0 then where is negative time?

<<< back there?

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Date: 14/05/2012 22:05:49
From: Dropbear
ID: 155814
Subject: re: Infinity

bob(from black rock) said:


>>>If t =0 then where is negative time?

<<< back there?

T=0 is by definition the beginning.

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Date: 14/05/2012 22:18:26
From: brett
ID: 155820
Subject: re: Infinity

bob(from black rock) said:


>>>If t =0 then where is negative time?

<<< back there?

I think so.

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Date: 14/05/2012 22:49:14
From: brett
ID: 155825
Subject: re: Infinity

T=0 is by definition the beginning.

——

Only by the religious.

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Date: 15/05/2012 07:06:06
From: Ian
ID: 155839
Subject: re: Infinity

brett said:


If t =0 then where is negative time?

Before the launch

T= -20… -10, 9,8,7…

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Date: 15/05/2012 08:46:54
From: B.C.
ID: 155856
Subject: re: Infinity

T=0 at the BB and advanced from there with expansion of space.
But in reality it should be said, it was from T=0 and space expansion with the BB, just space and time, as we know them.

Before that probably existed space and time at a level not described by current models and theories.

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Date: 15/05/2012 08:57:28
From: Ian
ID: 155857
Subject: re: Infinity

If you are referring to the beginning of time it gets confusing.

There is currently no widely accepted framework for how to combine quantum mechanics with relativistic gravity and (t=0 to 10^-43^ seconds). Science is not currently able to make predictions about events occurring over intervals shorter than the Planck time or distances shorter than one Planck length.

How do you measure time in the very early universe anyway?

“There is a lot of fluff written about quantities with the word Planck in front of them, but (as yet) they are really a sign where something has gone wrong. We know that at and before the Planck time our knowledge of the laws of physics fails. At this earliest epoch of the universe, both quantum mechanics and general relativity influence all of the processing going on, and we need them to work together, and what we know is that they simply don’t.”

The graph in this Cusp blog illustrates the problem nicely.

http://cosmic-horizons.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/drawing-line.html

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Date: 15/05/2012 09:09:07
From: Ian
ID: 155859
Subject: re: Infinity

should be…

There is currently no widely accepted framework for how to combine quantum mechanics with relativistic gravity.. during the Planck epoch (t=0 to 10^-43^ seconds).

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Date: 15/05/2012 10:05:52
From: B.C.
ID: 155867
Subject: re: Infinity

The time interval and space interval to which Ian is referring is known as a singularity, or where all our known models break down.

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Date: 15/05/2012 18:12:40
From: wookiemeister
ID: 155924
Subject: re: Infinity

T minus 15 seconds and counting

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Date: 17/05/2012 20:26:23
From: brett
ID: 156358
Subject: re: Infinity

Thanks Ian for the Cusp link.

He is helpful, in simple language, for complex questions.

I think he has developed a good sense of humour as he ages and is not grumpy at all.:)

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Date: 17/05/2012 20:28:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 156359
Subject: re: Infinity

The Lufkin Pro can measure infinity, well almost.

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Date: 17/05/2012 20:36:19
From: brett
ID: 156362
Subject: re: Infinity

See if you can get it to reflect back from the moon.

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