Date: 1/06/2012 11:10:38
From: trichome
ID: 160033
Subject: Words 2012

we have not had a word since July last year :(

well here it is, first one for 2012, the word is flagulitious

good luck :)

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Date: 1/06/2012 12:17:32
From: trichome
ID: 160044
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


we have not had a word since July last year :(

well here it is, first one for 2012, the word is flagulitious

good luck :)

no peeking at dictionaries :)

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Date: 1/06/2012 12:33:37
From: Happy Potter
ID: 160052
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


trichome said:

we have not had a word since July last year :(

well here it is, first one for 2012, the word is flagulitious

good luck :)

no peeking at dictionaries :)

I know, so I’m keeping mum on it ;)

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Date: 1/06/2012 12:42:40
From: trichome
ID: 160054
Subject: re: Words 2012

Happy Potter said:


trichome said:

trichome said:

we have not had a word since July last year :(

well here it is, first one for 2012, the word is flagulitious

good luck :)

no peeking at dictionaries :)

I know, so I’m keeping mum on it ;)


you must know a lot of words, i’m sure this is not a common word and surely hasn’t been in common use for some time is my guess

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Date: 1/06/2012 12:57:18
From: bon008
ID: 160056
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


Happy Potter said:

trichome said:

no peeking at dictionaries :)

I know, so I’m keeping mum on it ;)


you must know a lot of words, i’m sure this is not a common word and surely hasn’t been in common use for some time is my guess

I think I’m going to sit this one out. The word-pondering part of my brain seems to be a bit snoozy at the moment.

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Date: 1/06/2012 15:22:32
From: justin
ID: 160115
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


we have not had a word since July last year :(

well here it is, first one for 2012, the word is flagulitious

good luck :)

it could be ‘a delicious flogging’ but, more likely -

a winner – person who gets the checkered flag a lot.

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Date: 1/06/2012 15:35:35
From: trichome
ID: 160124
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


trichome said:

we have not had a word since July last year :(

well here it is, first one for 2012, the word is flagulitious

good luck :)

it could be ‘a delicious flogging’ but, more likely -

a winner – person who gets the checkered flag a lot.

sounds like a flogging, flagellate, but infact something different, it is an adjective

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Date: 1/06/2012 15:51:14
From: pomolo
ID: 160131
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


trichome said:

we have not had a word since July last year :(

well here it is, first one for 2012, the word is flagulitious

good luck :)

no peeking at dictionaries :)

Even if I peeked I wouldn’t know what I was talking about. lol.

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Date: 1/06/2012 16:02:51
From: bluegreen
ID: 160135
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


trichome said:

Happy Potter said:

I know, so I’m keeping mum on it ;)


you must know a lot of words, i’m sure this is not a common word and surely hasn’t been in common use for some time is my guess

I think I’m going to sit this one out. The word-pondering part of my brain seems to be a bit snoozy at the moment.

it happens when you are pregnant :D

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Date: 2/06/2012 10:23:59
From: pomolo
ID: 160379
Subject: re: Words 2012

I’ve just discovered the word ossuary. You probably already know it but it’s new to me. Sounds a bit like a cross between an ostrich and a cassowary but, of course it’s not.

Hi trichome.

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Date: 2/06/2012 11:25:09
From: trichome
ID: 160383
Subject: re: Words 2012

pomolo said:


I’ve just discovered the word ossuary. You probably already know it but it’s new to me. Sounds a bit like a cross between an ostrich and a cassowary but, of course it’s not.

Hi trichome.

no, never heard of it, maybe the others have?

i’ll keep the other one going see if PM or Dinetta or others know it :)

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Date: 2/06/2012 11:28:01
From: trichome
ID: 160384
Subject: re: Words 2012

pomolo said:


I’ve just discovered the word ossuary. You probably already know it but it’s new to me. Sounds a bit like a cross between an ostrich and a cassowary but, of course it’s not.

Hi trichome.

sounds like where one could put things, not sure what things though :)

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Date: 2/06/2012 13:38:13
From: Dinetta
ID: 160412
Subject: re: Words 2012

Bones

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Date: 2/06/2012 13:39:10
From: Dinetta
ID: 160413
Subject: re: Words 2012

Flagulitious sounds like someone inclined to flagellate themselves…what some religious folk do to purge themselves of their “sins”…

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Date: 2/06/2012 13:52:58
From: trichome
ID: 160421
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Flagulitious sounds like someone inclined to flagellate themselves…what some religious folk do to purge themselves of their “sins”…

does sound like that, but sorry not so :)

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Date: 2/06/2012 15:26:46
From: Dinetta
ID: 160480
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


Dinetta said:

Flagulitious sounds like someone inclined to flagellate themselves…what some religious folk do to purge themselves of their “sins”…

does sound like that, but sorry not so :)

OK, does it refer to things like some aemoebas (F7) which use their tails to “flallegate” themselves along? as a form of moving? Tadpoles do it, they whip their tails from side to side and that’s how they move through the water…

Have you even looked this word up, yet?

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Date: 2/06/2012 15:38:16
From: pomolo
ID: 160489
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

Dinetta said:

Flagulitious sounds like someone inclined to flagellate themselves…what some religious folk do to purge themselves of their “sins”…

does sound like that, but sorry not so :)

OK, does it refer to things like some aemoebas (F7) which use their tails to “flallegate” themselves along? as a form of moving? Tadpoles do it, they whip their tails from side to side and that’s how they move through the water…

Have you even looked this word up, yet?

Well I tried it on Google and it won’t recognise it. I’m off to give World Book a go.

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Date: 2/06/2012 15:39:17
From: Dinetta
ID: 160492
Subject: re: Words 2012

Did you get “bones” for ossuary, Pomolo?

And I think the “flag” word may have been spelled incorrectly?? Would Trichome please check?

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Date: 2/06/2012 15:43:53
From: trichome
ID: 160498
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

Dinetta said:

Flagulitious sounds like someone inclined to flagellate themselves…what some religious folk do to purge themselves of their “sins”…

does sound like that, but sorry not so :)

OK, does it refer to things like some aemoebas (F7) which use their tails to “flallegate” themselves along? as a form of moving? Tadpoles do it, they whip their tails from side to side and that’s how they move through the water…

Have you even looked this word up, yet?

nothing to do with flagellation :)

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Date: 2/06/2012 15:44:41
From: pomolo
ID: 160500
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Did you get “bones” for ossuary, Pomolo?

And I think the “flag” word may have been spelled incorrectly?? Would Trichome please check?

In part you are right. It actually holds bones of the long time dead. After the flesh has decomposed. It’s a stone box with a lid.

I can’t find flagulitious in World Book Encyclopedia either. I know I’m not supposed to look the word up but I’m not as clever as some of you.
You’re having us on trichome.

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Date: 2/06/2012 15:46:30
From: trichome
ID: 160505
Subject: re: Words 2012

yeah big mistake by me, sorry, word should be spelled:

flagitious

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Date: 2/06/2012 15:47:27
From: trichome
ID: 160507
Subject: re: Words 2012

pomolo said:


Dinetta said:

Did you get “bones” for ossuary, Pomolo?

And I think the “flag” word may have been spelled incorrectly?? Would Trichome please check?

In part you are right. It actually holds bones of the long time dead. After the flesh has decomposed. It’s a stone box with a lid.

I can’t find flagulitious in World Book Encyclopedia either. I know I’m not supposed to look the word up but I’m not as clever as some of you.
You’re having us on trichome.

thought it might be somewhere to put things :)

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Date: 2/06/2012 15:50:41
From: pomolo
ID: 160511
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


yeah big mistake by me, sorry, word should be spelled:

flagitious

Oops! lol.

It wouldn’t have helped me either way.

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Date: 2/06/2012 16:00:09
From: trichome
ID: 160525
Subject: re: Words 2012

from the late 14th centuary

flagitious \fluh-JISH-uhs\ , adjective:
1. Disgracefully or shamefully criminal; grossly wicked; scandalous; — said of acts, crimes, etc.
2. Guilty of enormous crimes; corrupt; profligate; — said of persons.
3. Characterized by enormous crimes or scandalous vices; as, “flagitious times.”

Flagitious comes from Latin flagitiosus, from flagitium, “a shameful or disgraceful act,” originally, “a burning desire, heat of passion,” from flagitare, “to demand earnestly or hotly,” connected with flagrare, “to blaze, to burn.”

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Date: 2/06/2012 16:15:03
From: Happy Potter
ID: 160545
Subject: re: Words 2012

pomolo said:


Dinetta said:

Did you get “bones” for ossuary, Pomolo?

And I think the “flag” word may have been spelled incorrectly?? Would Trichome please check?

In part you are right. It actually holds bones of the long time dead. After the flesh has decomposed. It’s a stone box with a lid.

I can’t find flagulitious in World Book Encyclopedia either. I know I’m not supposed to look the word up but I’m not as clever as some of you.
You’re having us on trichome.

Oh it’s a word alright, but just spelt wrong. I did say I was keeping quiet on this one LOL

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Date: 2/06/2012 16:15:51
From: Happy Potter
ID: 160546
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


from the late 14th centuary

flagitious \fluh-JISH-uhs\ , adjective:
1. Disgracefully or shamefully criminal; grossly wicked; scandalous; — said of acts, crimes, etc.
2. Guilty of enormous crimes; corrupt; profligate; — said of persons.
3. Characterized by enormous crimes or scandalous vices; as, “flagitious times.”

Flagitious comes from Latin flagitiosus, from flagitium, “a shameful or disgraceful act,” originally, “a burning desire, heat of passion,” from flagitare, “to demand earnestly or hotly,” connected with flagrare, “to blaze, to burn.”

ta dum!

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Date: 2/06/2012 16:23:14
From: trichome
ID: 160551
Subject: re: Words 2012

Happy Potter said:


trichome said:

from the late 14th centuary

flagitious \fluh-JISH-uhs\ , adjective:
1. Disgracefully or shamefully criminal; grossly wicked; scandalous; — said of acts, crimes, etc.
2. Guilty of enormous crimes; corrupt; profligate; — said of persons.
3. Characterized by enormous crimes or scandalous vices; as, “flagitious times.”

Flagitious comes from Latin flagitiosus, from flagitium, “a shameful or disgraceful act,” originally, “a burning desire, heat of passion,” from flagitare, “to demand earnestly or hotly,” connected with flagrare, “to blaze, to burn.”

ta dum!

it was on ABC radio as a ring in comp. word of the day

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Date: 2/06/2012 16:29:13
From: Dinetta
ID: 160555
Subject: re: Words 2012

and I guess from that we get flagrant, as in “in flagrante (f7) delicito”…sprung boinking somebody you shouldn’t have been…but I guess the Latin means “sprung in a delicate passion situation”…

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Date: 2/06/2012 18:15:54
From: Bubba Louie
ID: 160622
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Bones

I knew that. lol

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Date: 2/06/2012 18:43:15
From: Dinetta
ID: 160644
Subject: re: Words 2012

Bubba Louie said:


Dinetta said:

Bones

I knew that. lol

I learnt that by reading Phantom comics…

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Date: 2/06/2012 18:43:24
From: Dinetta
ID: 160645
Subject: re: Words 2012

Bubba Louie said:


Dinetta said:

Bones

I knew that. lol

I learnt that by reading Phantom comics…

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Date: 2/06/2012 19:06:29
From: trichome
ID: 160670
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Bubba Louie said:

Dinetta said:

Bones

I knew that. lol

I learnt that by reading Phantom comics…

yeah the phantom, haven’t read one of those in years

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Date: 2/06/2012 19:55:00
From: justin
ID: 160724
Subject: re: Words 2012

pomolo said:


I’ve just discovered the word ossuary. You probably already know it but it’s new to me. Sounds a bit like a cross between an ostrich and a cassowary but, of course it’s not.

Hi trichome.

sounds a bit like glossary with the ‘gl’ missing.

it could be a legal term but i’m not sure?

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Date: 18/06/2012 14:22:51
From: justin
ID: 166133
Subject: re: Words 2012

too easy for some

sartorialist

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Date: 18/06/2012 14:24:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 166135
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


too easy for some

sartorialist

stop talking about me like that.. ;)

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Date: 18/06/2012 14:28:57
From: justin
ID: 166136
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


justin said:

too easy for some

sartorialist

stop talking about me like that.. ;)

haha – sorry folks that answer could be viewed as misleading LOL.

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Date: 18/06/2012 15:05:59
From: trichome
ID: 166147
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


roughbarked said:

justin said:

too easy for some

sartorialist

stop talking about me like that.. ;)

haha – sorry folks that answer could be viewed as misleading LOL.

you got me on this one, but surely it is something that someone does, maybe as a job :)

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Date: 18/06/2012 15:18:37
From: justin
ID: 166152
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


justin said:

roughbarked said:

stop talking about me like that.. ;)

haha – sorry folks that answer could be viewed as misleading LOL.

you got me on this one, but surely it is something that someone does, maybe as a job :)

summin that someone is …. and, in a way, men are least likely to know the answer….
…altho’ some men are said to be sartorial…..

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Date: 18/06/2012 17:39:56
From: justin
ID: 166212
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


justin said:

too easy for some

sartorialist

stop talking about me like that.. ;)

we would call you ‘smooth bark’ then LOL.

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Date: 18/06/2012 17:43:03
From: bon008
ID: 166214
Subject: re: Words 2012

Is it something about being dapper, well dressed, and fashionable?

I have a vague feeling that it’s one of those words I’ve never been able to make stick in my memory, so I looked it up a few months ago – but I may be thinking of some other word that refuses to stick!

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Date: 18/06/2012 18:02:31
From: justin
ID: 166239
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


Is it something about being dapper, well dressed, and fashionable?

I have a vague feeling that it’s one of those words I’ve never been able to make stick in my memory, so I looked it up a few months ago – but I may be thinking of some other word that refuses to stick!

we have a winner.
i like dapper – this is a new age version of dapper – well done

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Date: 18/06/2012 18:48:37
From: justin
ID: 166282
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


bon008 said:

Is it something about being dapper, well dressed, and fashionable?

I have a vague feeling that it’s one of those words I’ve never been able to make stick in my memory, so I looked it up a few months ago – but I may be thinking of some other word that refuses to stick!

we have a winner.
i like dapper – this is a new age version of dapper – well done

a sartorialist is ‘one who is interested in tailoring or clothing.’

my wife is a satorialist and what the definition doesn’t say is that they can be quite critical of those who don’t share their interest. for instance a ‘combo of dots, checks and stripes’ will be viewed with horror as in “they didn’t think that through did they?”.

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Date: 18/06/2012 18:52:08
From: buffy
ID: 166286
Subject: re: Words 2012

The sartorius muscle in your leg is named from the same route. Old style tailors put their knee out and ankle on the opposite knee while hand stitching. If you sit in that position, the muscle across from the knee to the ankle of the crossed leg is the sartorius. It’s not easy to describe that posture.

Or so I recall from first year anatomy, when we had to dissect out the gastrocnemius muscle from a frog’s leg.

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Date: 19/06/2012 10:35:03
From: Happy Potter
ID: 166499
Subject: re: Words 2012

sartorialist

Satorial- satire.. so a writer, critique?

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Date: 19/06/2012 10:49:15
From: trichome
ID: 166506
Subject: re: Words 2012

Happy Potter said:


sartorialist

Satorial- satire.. so a writer, critique?

nah, bon008 got it :)

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Date: 21/06/2012 10:42:37
From: Dinetta
ID: 167392
Subject: re: Words 2012

dysphemism

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Date: 21/06/2012 10:42:58
From: Dinetta
ID: 167393
Subject: re: Words 2012

And that’s the correct speling, to…

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Date: 21/06/2012 10:48:16
From: bluegreen
ID: 167399
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


And that’s the correct speling, to…

spelling too, even :)

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Date: 21/06/2012 11:31:58
From: Dinetta
ID: 167432
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

And that’s the correct speling, to…

spelling too, even :)

I think I’m doing rather well, I’ve been learning all the new speling on facebook u no…

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Date: 21/06/2012 11:34:30
From: justin
ID: 167434
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


dysphemism

any hints ?
its looks medical (phlem) with latin origins.
not phematic ?

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Date: 21/06/2012 11:37:19
From: bluegreen
ID: 167437
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

And that’s the correct speling, to…

spelling too, even :)

I think I’m doing rather well, I’ve been learning all the new speling on facebook u no…

lol!

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Date: 21/06/2012 11:40:18
From: bluegreen
ID: 167439
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


Dinetta said:

dysphemism

any hints ?
its looks medical (phlem) with latin origins.
not phematic ?

dys = not, opposite, as in dysfunctional, dyspeptic

so what is phemism?

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Date: 21/06/2012 11:47:54
From: justin
ID: 167441
Subject: re: Words 2012

so what is phemism?
————————-

phlem with that missing ‘l’ from spelling

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Date: 21/06/2012 12:56:26
From: justin
ID: 167451
Subject: re: Words 2012

if phe – nomenal_ means big- name
then phe – means big
the m belongs to mism

dysphemis = not – big -ism

the practice of using small and appropriate means rather than overwhelming force.

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Date: 21/06/2012 12:59:26
From: Dinetta
ID: 167452
Subject: re: Words 2012

No sorry…some parts you’ve got, Pepe…there’s a kind of clue in the thread title…

I thought it was a mis-spelling until I went and looked it up…but the spelling is correct…

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Date: 21/06/2012 13:14:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 167462
Subject: re: Words 2012

it is how to be nasty when you should have been nice.

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Date: 21/06/2012 13:22:23
From: trichome
ID: 167473
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


dysphemism

are you makin’ that up ? :)

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Date: 21/06/2012 13:48:41
From: Dinetta
ID: 167489
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


it is how to be nasty when you should have been nice.

Close…

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Date: 21/06/2012 13:59:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 167498
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


roughbarked said:

it is how to be nasty when you should have been nice.

Close…

as close as to ask for axle grease when he wanted butter

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Date: 21/06/2012 14:11:41
From: Dinetta
ID: 167505
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

it is how to be nasty when you should have been nice.

Close…

as close as to ask for axle grease when he wanted butter

getting there…

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Date: 21/06/2012 14:16:07
From: Dinetta
ID: 167506
Subject: re: Words 2012

Nope, not quite…I’m still getting there myself… but I’ve found a very clear meaning of the word now…

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Date: 21/06/2012 15:21:11
From: bon008
ID: 167522
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


dysphemism

Gosh, not a lot to go by there – once you remove the “dys” and the “ism”, you’ve hardly got any word left!

Ponder ponder..

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Date: 21/06/2012 15:26:13
From: bon008
ID: 167525
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Nope, not quite…I’m still getting there myself… but I’ve found a very clear meaning of the word now…

Well, this thread has just confused me even more! I’m going to look it up :)

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Date: 21/06/2012 15:27:48
From: Dinetta
ID: 167527
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

Nope, not quite…I’m still getting there myself… but I’ve found a very clear meaning of the word now…

Well, this thread has just confused me even more! I’m going to look it up :)

If you do that, the rules are you’re “out”…

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Date: 21/06/2012 15:43:43
From: bon008
ID: 167536
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


bon008 said:

Dinetta said:

Nope, not quite…I’m still getting there myself… but I’ve found a very clear meaning of the word now…

Well, this thread has just confused me even more! I’m going to look it up :)

If you do that, the rules are you’re “out”…

That’s OK :) I was completely stuck anyway.

Good word!

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Date: 21/06/2012 15:47:35
From: Dinetta
ID: 167537
Subject: re: Words 2012

Glad you like it. :)

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Date: 21/06/2012 16:33:07
From: Dinetta
ID: 167577
Subject: re: Words 2012

I think everybody’s played that’s going to play…

Here ‘tis:

Dysphemism: A negative expression used
instead of one that carries positive associations.
-“The government is valiantly
combating resistance from terrorists.” Source

Also:
In language, dysphemism,a malphemism,b and cacophemismc refer to the usage of an intentionally harsh (rather than polite) word or expression; roughly the opposite of euphemism.

and

Many dysphemisms are pejoratives, e.g., referring to the police as the “pigs”, or referring to homosexual men as “fags”. Others are playful or slang terms, e.g., referring to a cigarette as a “cancer stick” or “coffin nail”.

There are two kinds of dysphemisms (and euphemisms). They are conventional and general.

Conventional dysphemisms do not describe the person’s feelings toward a subject, and are more about politeness and casualness than context. (e.g., “crap” for defecate, “dick” for penis, “fat” for overweight, etc.) Profanity is a form of this. General dysphemisms describe a person’s attitude toward something. (“terrorist” vs. “freedom fighter”, “weird” vs. “unique”, “egghead” vs. “genius”, “ripped off of” vs “inspired by”, “henchman” vs “associate”, “dead-tree” vs “hard copy”, etc)

Referring to a person by an animal name, such as pig, cow, snake, chicken, donkey, ass, or bitch, is almost always a dysphemism, and the last two terms are often considered profane. Source

If you look up the first “Source” you will find the distinctions between dysphemism and sarcasm and a few other choice definitions of English usage that you didn’t really want to know about…

So RoughBarked was quite close and he gets the laurel!

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Date: 21/06/2012 17:07:35
From: bluegreen
ID: 167595
Subject: re: Words 2012

good one Dinetta :)

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Date: 21/06/2012 17:35:20
From: Dinetta
ID: 167614
Subject: re: Words 2012

The word was provided as a counter to the comment “Euphemisms” on fb… which I thought might be the name of a town (but it’s not) in the US of A, where the first poster is…then her friend came back with dysphemism…and I was intrigued…

Apparently the first poster is p’d with the “Murrican” habit of using euphemisms very heavily…as instead of calling a spade a bloody shovel, they call it a surface digging implement…and so it goes on…

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Date: 21/06/2012 19:29:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 167719
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


I think everybody’s played that’s going to play…

Here ‘tis:

So RoughBarked was quite close and he gets the laurel!

woo woo! yes it is an objectionable, offensive or disparaging expression that is substituted for an inoffensive one.

so what’s the prize? :)
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Date: 21/06/2012 19:36:24
From: justin
ID: 167723
Subject: re: Words 2012

good word dinetta

“he failed to fulfill his wellness potential” – is my favourite euphemism at present – it means “he died” LOL.

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Date: 21/06/2012 20:19:40
From: Dinetta
ID: 167734
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


good word dinetta

“he failed to fulfill his wellness potential” – is my favourite euphemism at present – it means “he died” LOL.

OH MY GOODNESS!! I laughed so much the dogs are nudging me in concern, what a HOOT!!

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Date: 21/06/2012 20:25:12
From: Dinetta
ID: 167738
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:

so what’s the prize? :)

Laurel Wreath from Denmark for RoughBarked…(or is it Norway that your son’s family is in?)

All Hail!!

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Date: 21/06/2012 21:06:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 167750
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


roughbarked said:

so what’s the prize? :)

Laurel Wreath from Denmark for RoughBarked…(or is it Norway that your son’s family is in?)

All Hail!!


thanks
Norway it is.

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Date: 22/06/2012 08:31:44
From: justin
ID: 167849
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


justin said:

good word dinetta

“he failed to fulfill his wellness potential” – is my favourite euphemism at present – it means “he died” LOL.

OH MY GOODNESS!! I laughed so much the dogs are nudging me in concern, what a HOOT!!

kate burridge – she said it on the radio – although it was “the patient failed to fulfill his wellness potential.

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Date: 13/07/2012 14:50:28
From: justin
ID: 175619
Subject: re: Words 2012

hugh fernley wittingstall used it last night – and i had to look it up – but i’m sure its too easy for some of youse

comestible

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Date: 13/07/2012 15:13:57
From: bon008
ID: 175629
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


hugh fernley wittingstall used it last night – and i had to look it up – but i’m sure its too easy for some of youse

comestible

Argh, this is another of those ones that I know I should know – I’ve seen it around often enough.

I don’t know if I’m only thinking this way because you mentioned HFW, but it definitely has a foody ring to it – like edible, but with more emphasis on tasty. Or is it something that doesn’t keep well? Maybe I’ve never really known it properly, and always just filled in with whatever seems right according to the context :D

Is it.. something to do with the beer he was making?? So, something that will ferment, for instance. What else was there.. spinach, rhubarb.. hmm…

(Incidentally I was watching HFW last night – but mum likes to have it muted (if not turned off altogether) whenever there is any kind of meat processing happening, so we missed quite a lot of it!)

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Date: 13/07/2012 15:31:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 175638
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


justin said:

hugh fernley wittingstall used it last night – and i had to look it up – but i’m sure its too easy for some of youse

comestible

Argh, this is another of those ones that I know I should know – I’ve seen it around often enough.

I don’t know if I’m only thinking this way because you mentioned HFW, but it definitely has a foody ring to it – like edible, but with more emphasis on tasty. Or is it something that doesn’t keep well? Maybe I’ve never really known it properly, and always just filled in with whatever seems right according to the context :D

Is it.. something to do with the beer he was making?? So, something that will ferment, for instance. What else was there.. spinach, rhubarb.. hmm…

(Incidentally I was watching HFW last night – but mum likes to have it muted (if not turned off altogether) whenever there is any kind of meat processing happening, so we missed quite a lot of it!)

well, it is something that you can and are eating..

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Date: 13/07/2012 15:35:16
From: justin
ID: 175642
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


justin said:

hugh fernley wittingstall used it last night – and i had to look it up – but i’m sure its too easy for some of youse

comestible

Argh, this is another of those ones that I know I should know – I’ve seen it around often enough.

I don’t know if I’m only thinking this way because you mentioned HFW, but it definitely has a foody ring to it – like edible, but with more emphasis on tasty. Or is it something that doesn’t keep well? Maybe I’ve never really known it properly, and always just filled in with whatever seems right according to the context :D

Is it.. something to do with the beer he was making?? So, something that will ferment, for instance. What else was there.. spinach, rhubarb.. hmm…

(Incidentally I was watching HFW last night – but mum likes to have it muted (if not turned off altogether) whenever there is any kind of meat processing happening, so we missed quite a lot of it!)

no shortage of ideas there LOL
….and one of them is right.

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Date: 13/07/2012 15:37:50
From: justin
ID: 175644
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


bon008 said:

justin said:

hugh fernley wittingstall used it last night – and i had to look it up – but i’m sure its too easy for some of youse

comestible

Argh, this is another of those ones that I know I should know – I’ve seen it around often enough.

I don’t know if I’m only thinking this way because you mentioned HFW, but it definitely has a foody ring to it – like edible, but with more emphasis on tasty. Or is it something that doesn’t keep well? Maybe I’ve never really known it properly, and always just filled in with whatever seems right according to the context :D

Is it.. something to do with the beer he was making?? So, something that will ferment, for instance. What else was there.. spinach, rhubarb.. hmm…

(Incidentally I was watching HFW last night – but mum likes to have it muted (if not turned off altogether) whenever there is any kind of meat processing happening, so we missed quite a lot of it!)

well, it is something that you can and are eating..

yes that’s right – its a noun ( i think) and therefore is the thing that you eat.
a sort of consumable bit of combustion.
it was too easy – well done you two.

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Date: 13/07/2012 15:49:25
From: bluegreen
ID: 175646
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

Argh, this is another of those ones that I know I should know – I’ve seen it around often enough.

I don’t know if I’m only thinking this way because you mentioned HFW, but it definitely has a foody ring to it – like edible, but with more emphasis on tasty. Or is it something that doesn’t keep well? Maybe I’ve never really known it properly, and always just filled in with whatever seems right according to the context :D

Is it.. something to do with the beer he was making?? So, something that will ferment, for instance. What else was there.. spinach, rhubarb.. hmm…

(Incidentally I was watching HFW last night – but mum likes to have it muted (if not turned off altogether) whenever there is any kind of meat processing happening, so we missed quite a lot of it!)

well, it is something that you can and are eating..

yes that’s right – its a noun ( i think) and therefore is the thing that you eat.
a sort of consumable bit of combustion.
it was too easy – well done you two.

so, “I get my comestibles at the greengrocer”

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Date: 13/07/2012 15:51:54
From: justin
ID: 175648
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


justin said:

roughbarked said:

well, it is something that you can and are eating..

yes that’s right – its a noun ( i think) and therefore is the thing that you eat.
a sort of consumable bit of combustion.
it was too easy – well done you two.

so, “I get my comestibles at the greengrocer”

yes as i understand it
just another word for edibles or food. does it include meat?
i’ll check.

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Date: 13/07/2012 15:56:11
From: justin
ID: 175651
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


bluegreen said:

justin said:

yes that’s right – its a noun ( i think) and therefore is the thing that you eat.
a sort of consumable bit of combustion.
it was too easy – well done you two.

so, “I get my comestibles at the greengrocer”

yes as i understand it
just another word for edibles or food. does it include meat?
i’ll check.

it includes meat
do you remember hugh’s context?

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Date: 13/07/2012 16:05:10
From: bluegreen
ID: 175658
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


justin said:

bluegreen said:

so, “I get my comestibles at the greengrocer”

yes as i understand it
just another word for edibles or food. does it include meat?
i’ll check.

it includes meat
do you remember hugh’s context?

I didn’t watch him last night

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Date: 13/07/2012 16:21:57
From: justin
ID: 175666
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


justin said:

justin said:

yes as i understand it
just another word for edibles or food. does it include meat?
i’ll check.

it includes meat
do you remember hugh’s context?

I didn’t watch him last night

he said summin like -‘that takes care of the comestibles – now to ……..?
i’m not sure if he made a distinction between food types or if he went into an entirely different activity.

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Date: 13/07/2012 17:16:17
From: bon008
ID: 175680
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


bon008 said:

justin said:

hugh fernley wittingstall used it last night – and i had to look it up – but i’m sure its too easy for some of youse

comestible

Argh, this is another of those ones that I know I should know – I’ve seen it around often enough.

I don’t know if I’m only thinking this way because you mentioned HFW, but it definitely has a foody ring to it – like edible, but with more emphasis on tasty. Or is it something that doesn’t keep well? Maybe I’ve never really known it properly, and always just filled in with whatever seems right according to the context :D

Is it.. something to do with the beer he was making?? So, something that will ferment, for instance. What else was there.. spinach, rhubarb.. hmm…

(Incidentally I was watching HFW last night – but mum likes to have it muted (if not turned off altogether) whenever there is any kind of meat processing happening, so we missed quite a lot of it!)

no shortage of ideas there LOL
….and one of them is right.

I believe it’s called clutching at straws, hehe!

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Date: 13/07/2012 17:17:31
From: bon008
ID: 175682
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


bluegreen said:

justin said:

yes that’s right – its a noun ( i think) and therefore is the thing that you eat.
a sort of consumable bit of combustion.
it was too easy – well done you two.

so, “I get my comestibles at the greengrocer”

yes as i understand it
just another word for edibles or food. does it include meat?
i’ll check.

Ahh, OK. See, I thought that sounded too simple, hence trying to think of more complicated meanings – like food, but only tasty food :)

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Date: 13/07/2012 17:24:04
From: trichome
ID: 175683
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


hugh fernley wittingstall used it last night – and i had to look it up – but i’m sure its too easy for some of youse

comestible

never heard of it

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Date: 13/07/2012 17:26:27
From: trichome
ID: 175684
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

Argh, this is another of those ones that I know I should know – I’ve seen it around often enough.

I don’t know if I’m only thinking this way because you mentioned HFW, but it definitely has a foody ring to it – like edible, but with more emphasis on tasty. Or is it something that doesn’t keep well? Maybe I’ve never really known it properly, and always just filled in with whatever seems right according to the context :D

Is it.. something to do with the beer he was making?? So, something that will ferment, for instance. What else was there.. spinach, rhubarb.. hmm…

(Incidentally I was watching HFW last night – but mum likes to have it muted (if not turned off altogether) whenever there is any kind of meat processing happening, so we missed quite a lot of it!)

well, it is something that you can and are eating..

yes that’s right – its a noun ( i think) and therefore is the thing that you eat.
a sort of consumable bit of combustion.
it was too easy – well done you two.

i see it means ‘edible’

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Date: 13/07/2012 17:35:21
From: pain master
ID: 175685
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


justin said:

roughbarked said:

well, it is something that you can and are eating..

yes that’s right – its a noun ( i think) and therefore is the thing that you eat.
a sort of consumable bit of combustion.
it was too easy – well done you two.

i see it means ‘edible’

so is it pronounced “come stible” or “com mes tible”?

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Date: 13/07/2012 17:44:25
From: bon008
ID: 175688
Subject: re: Words 2012

pain master said:


trichome said:

justin said:

yes that’s right – its a noun ( i think) and therefore is the thing that you eat.
a sort of consumable bit of combustion.
it was too easy – well done you two.

i see it means ‘edible’

so is it pronounced “come stible” or “com mes tible”?

The latter – a bit like combustible.

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Date: 13/07/2012 17:44:59
From: bon008
ID: 175689
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


pain master said:

trichome said:

i see it means ‘edible’

so is it pronounced “come stible” or “com mes tible”?

The latter – a bit like combustible.

Is it weird that I feel completely sure of that, even though I was so vague on the meaning?? Usually I know what a word means, but not how to pronounce it!

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Date: 13/07/2012 17:57:14
From: pain master
ID: 175695
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


bon008 said:

pain master said:

so is it pronounced “come stible” or “com mes tible”?

The latter – a bit like combustible.

Is it weird that I feel completely sure of that, even though I was so vague on the meaning?? Usually I know what a word means, but not how to pronounce it!

So when GF is preparing dinner, I should perhaps say “how’s your comestibles?”

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Date: 13/07/2012 18:01:59
From: bon008
ID: 175700
Subject: re: Words 2012

pain master said:


bon008 said:

bon008 said:

The latter – a bit like combustible.

Is it weird that I feel completely sure of that, even though I was so vague on the meaning?? Usually I know what a word means, but not how to pronounce it!

So when GF is preparing dinner, I should perhaps say “how’s your comestibles?”

Well if you’re going to use a plural, you should probably say “how’re” and not “how’s” :) (my dad was big on correcting us for this when we were kids!)

But yes, that would make sense I think. Next time Mr Bon is cooking, I should ask him how the vittles are coming along, he’d like that.

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Date: 13/07/2012 18:03:32
From: pain master
ID: 175702
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


pain master said:

bon008 said:

Is it weird that I feel completely sure of that, even though I was so vague on the meaning?? Usually I know what a word means, but not how to pronounce it!

So when GF is preparing dinner, I should perhaps say “how’s your comestibles?”

Well if you’re going to use a plural, you should probably say “how’re” and not “how’s” :) (my dad was big on correcting us for this when we were kids!)

But yes, that would make sense I think. Next time Mr Bon is cooking, I should ask him how the vittles are coming along, he’d like that.

Vittles?

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Date: 13/07/2012 18:34:21
From: trichome
ID: 175724
Subject: re: Words 2012

pain master said:


bon008 said:

pain master said:

So when GF is preparing dinner, I should perhaps say “how’s your comestibles?”

Well if you’re going to use a plural, you should probably say “how’re” and not “how’s” :) (my dad was big on correcting us for this when we were kids!)

But yes, that would make sense I think. Next time Mr Bon is cooking, I should ask him how the vittles are coming along, he’d like that.

Vittles?


yes vittles, haven’t heard that one for ages or correct is victuals :)

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Date: 14/07/2012 10:01:34
From: justin
ID: 175836
Subject: re: Words 2012

pain master said:


bon008 said:

bon008 said:

The latter – a bit like combustible.

Is it weird that I feel completely sure of that, even though I was so vague on the meaning?? Usually I know what a word means, but not how to pronounce it!

So when GF is preparing dinner, I should perhaps say “how’s your comestibles?”

although it is just another word for food, it is a poetic opportunity – so with the GF you might try – ‘delectable comestibles’ or ‘seriously comsumable comestibles’

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Date: 14/07/2012 10:16:55
From: pain master
ID: 175840
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


pain master said:

bon008 said:

Is it weird that I feel completely sure of that, even though I was so vague on the meaning?? Usually I know what a word means, but not how to pronounce it!

So when GF is preparing dinner, I should perhaps say “how’s your comestibles?”

although it is just another word for food, it is a poetic opportunity – so with the GF you might try – ‘delectable comestibles’ or ‘seriously comsumable comestibles’

I’ll try the former.

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Date: 15/07/2012 22:33:30
From: bon008
ID: 176464
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


pain master said:

bon008 said:

Well if you’re going to use a plural, you should probably say “how’re” and not “how’s” :) (my dad was big on correcting us for this when we were kids!)

But yes, that would make sense I think. Next time Mr Bon is cooking, I should ask him how the vittles are coming along, he’d like that.

Vittles?


yes vittles, haven’t heard that one for ages or correct is victuals :)

Sorry, disappeared for the weekend :) Yeh, we tend to say vittles based on the historical naval fiction we both love – I think it mostly comes from Patrick O’Brian’s Aubrey/Maturin series, for us.

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Date: 16/07/2012 11:54:49
From: bubba louie
ID: 176637
Subject: re: Words 2012

pain master said:


bon008 said:

pain master said:

So when GF is preparing dinner, I should perhaps say “how’s your comestibles?”

Well if you’re going to use a plural, you should probably say “how’re” and not “how’s” :) (my dad was big on correcting us for this when we were kids!)

But yes, that would make sense I think. Next time Mr Bon is cooking, I should ask him how the vittles are coming along, he’d like that.

Vittles?

Beverly Hillbillies.

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Date: 16/07/2012 19:54:16
From: justin
ID: 176727
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


trichome said:

pain master said:

Vittles?


yes vittles, haven’t heard that one for ages or correct is victuals :)

Sorry, disappeared for the weekend :) Yeh, we tend to say vittles based on the historical naval fiction we both love – I think it mostly comes from Patrick O’Brian’s Aubrey/Maturin series, for us.

yank tv probably – we get a lot of our slang from there.
thank you trichome – victuals is a good word.

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Date: 16/07/2012 19:57:14
From: bluegreen
ID: 176729
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


bon008 said:

trichome said:

yes vittles, haven’t heard that one for ages or correct is victuals :)

Sorry, disappeared for the weekend :) Yeh, we tend to say vittles based on the historical naval fiction we both love – I think it mostly comes from Patrick O’Brian’s Aubrey/Maturin series, for us.

yank tv probably – we get a lot of our slang from there.
thank you trichome – victuals is a good word.

I have always associated “vittles” with Afro-American from the slavery era.

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Date: 16/07/2012 23:01:54
From: bon008
ID: 176774
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


bon008 said:

trichome said:

yes vittles, haven’t heard that one for ages or correct is victuals :)

Sorry, disappeared for the weekend :) Yeh, we tend to say vittles based on the historical naval fiction we both love – I think it mostly comes from Patrick O’Brian’s Aubrey/Maturin series, for us.

yank tv probably – we get a lot of our slang from there.
thank you trichome – victuals is a good word.

Novels actually :)

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Date: 7/08/2012 13:04:29
From: justin
ID: 184296
Subject: re: Words 2012

they were talking about robert hughes and used the word

arcane

it’s a frustrating word so i looked it up – and yes you should know it.
if you look it up leave the guessing to those who don’t.

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Date: 7/08/2012 13:15:34
From: bluegreen
ID: 184299
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


they were talking about robert hughes and used the word

arcane

it’s a frustrating word so i looked it up – and yes you should know it.
if you look it up leave the guessing to those who don’t.

something to do with being old I think. As in “that is an arcane way of doing things”

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Date: 7/08/2012 13:27:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 184301
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


justin said:

they were talking about robert hughes and used the word

arcane

it’s a frustrating word so i looked it up – and yes you should know it.
if you look it up leave the guessing to those who don’t.

something to do with being old I think. As in “that is an arcane way of doing things”

You left out the magic.

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Date: 7/08/2012 13:54:16
From: justin
ID: 184310
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


bluegreen said:

justin said:

they were talking about robert hughes and used the word

arcane

it’s a frustrating word so i looked it up – and yes you should know it.
if you look it up leave the guessing to those who don’t.

something to do with being old I think. As in “that is an arcane way of doing things”

You left out the magic.

i would have said that – but no not really.
more guesses?

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Date: 7/08/2012 14:01:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 184311
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

something to do with being old I think. As in “that is an arcane way of doing things”

You left out the magic.

i would have said that – but no not really.
more guesses?

c’mon, what’s not magic about divine wisdom?

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Date: 7/08/2012 14:32:05
From: justin
ID: 184315
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


justin said:

roughbarked said:

You left out the magic.

i would have said that – but no not really.
more guesses?

c’mon, what’s not magic about divine wisdom?

you’re close.

the context was summin like – “robert hughes was able to explain arcane matters simply..

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Date: 7/08/2012 14:34:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 184317
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


roughbarked said:

justin said:

i would have said that – but no not really.
more guesses?

c’mon, what’s not magic about divine wisdom?

you’re close.

the context was summin like – “robert hughes was able to explain arcane matters simply..

They forgot to point out that he could finish a sentence..

which most cannot.
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Date: 7/08/2012 14:49:32
From: justin
ID: 184319
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


justin said:

roughbarked said:

c’mon, what’s not magic about divine wisdom?

you’re close.

the context was summin like – “robert hughes was able to explain arcane matters simply..

They forgot to point out that he could finish a sentence..

which most cannot.

i will accept ‘wisdom’ but not ‘divine’ or ‘magical’.
(altho’ neither is strictly wrong – just out-of-date).
give me a better adjective.

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Date: 7/08/2012 14:53:05
From: Dinetta
ID: 184320
Subject: re: Words 2012

Arcane is not to be confused with archaic (which is the “old-fashioned”)… however it’s not been a word that interests me so I have never used it…sorry… At a guess, I reckon it might have something to do with the subtletys (F7, you know what I mean)…of looking at something in the art world, where the manner of looking at a piece of art can cause the use of inappropriate language (not swearing) in an effort to explain what the artist’s intentions were when creating his artwork…go ahead larf, at least I had a go…not sure what magic has to do with it?

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Date: 7/08/2012 15:01:51
From: bluegreen
ID: 184325
Subject: re: Words 2012

I was probably confusing it with archaic, and I guess the sense of old magic too. I have looked it up now so can’t say anything, but am initiated into the arcane now :D

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Date: 7/08/2012 15:12:30
From: bon008
ID: 184326
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


they were talking about robert hughes and used the word

arcane

it’s a frustrating word so i looked it up – and yes you should know it.
if you look it up leave the guessing to those who don’t.

OK, well this is one of those “I know this one!” words so it will be interesting to see how wrong I am :)

I think it is to do with the supernatural.

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Date: 7/08/2012 15:14:30
From: bon008
ID: 184327
Subject: re: Words 2012

Just read what everyone else said – it’s interesting, because I also had that “old magic” connotation, but dismissed it because I assumed I was just thinking of archaic.. now I’m going to have to look it up to find out all the nuances!

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Date: 7/08/2012 15:16:36
From: bon008
ID: 184329
Subject: re: Words 2012

Well, that was really interesting :)

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Date: 7/08/2012 15:18:20
From: bluegreen
ID: 184330
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


Well, that was really interesting :)

context can really influence our understanding of the word.

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Date: 7/08/2012 15:18:22
From: justin
ID: 184331
Subject: re: Words 2012

well – only trichome hasn’t had a stab yet (of those who usually guess).
RB has the etymology right – we are looking for a modern interpretation of ‘divine wisdom’.

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Date: 7/08/2012 15:34:21
From: justin
ID: 184333
Subject: re: Words 2012

arcane means

esoteric or specialised knowledge

…and you’re right – it could mean other things in other contexts.

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Date: 7/08/2012 16:20:25
From: Dinetta
ID: 184347
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


arcane means

esoteric or specialised knowledge

…and you’re right – it could mean other things in other contexts.

So I was on the right path, as art and the interpretation of art and how artists go about expressing themselves, is specialised knowledge…and it’s my opinion that this context can be esoteric in the extreme… was beginning to get a bit worried about the mystical connotations tho’….

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Date: 7/08/2012 16:25:50
From: Dinetta
ID: 184348
Subject: re: Words 2012

Here’s a good one, and probably closer to the usage in the news item:

“requiring secret knowledge to be understood”…

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Date: 7/08/2012 16:46:41
From: bluegreen
ID: 184357
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


justin said:

arcane means

esoteric or specialised knowledge

…and you’re right – it could mean other things in other contexts.

So I was on the right path, as art and the interpretation of art and how artists go about expressing themselves, is specialised knowledge…and it’s my opinion that this context can be esoteric in the extreme… was beginning to get a bit worried about the mystical connotations tho’….

from Dictionary.com

adjective
known or understood by very few; mysterious; secret; obscure; esoteric: She knew a lot about Sanskrit grammar and other arcane matters.

Origin:
1540–50; (< Middle French ) < Latin arcānus, equivalent to arc(ēre) to shut up, keep (derivative of arca a chest, box) + -ānus -an

Example Sentences

Technology is always arcane to those who don’t understand it. If cartoons are ever to break into the fine art marketplace we’ll have to come up with more arcane terminology. Basic human genetics doesn’t need to be arcane or astrological, it’s deducible from some spare first principles.

World English Dictionary
arcane (ɑːˈkeɪn)

—adj requiring secret knowledge to be understood; mysterious; esoteric

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Date: 7/08/2012 17:11:07
From: justin
ID: 184366
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


arcane means

esoteric or specialised knowledge

…and you’re right – it could mean other things in other contexts.

look up the two synonyms – hermetic and recondite – and there is a ‘secret’ component to the meaning.

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Date: 7/08/2012 17:16:54
From: trichome
ID: 184372
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


well – only trichome hasn’t had a stab yet (of those who usually guess).
RB has the etymology right – we are looking for a modern interpretation of ‘divine wisdom’.

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Date: 7/08/2012 17:17:45
From: trichome
ID: 184374
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


justin said:

well – only trichome hasn’t had a stab yet (of those who usually guess).
RB has the etymology right – we are looking for a modern interpretation of ‘divine wisdom’.

i know the word but not the meaning, sounds like something boring or dull ? :)

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Date: 7/08/2012 17:19:11
From: trichome
ID: 184375
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


arcane means

esoteric or specialised knowledge

…and you’re right – it could mean other things in other contexts.

ok i can look it up now :)
i was on the wrong track

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Date: 7/08/2012 17:29:35
From: justin
ID: 184380
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


trichome said:

justin said:

well – only trichome hasn’t had a stab yet (of those who usually guess).
RB has the etymology right – we are looking for a modern interpretation of ‘divine wisdom’.

i know the word but not the meaning, sounds like something boring or dull ? :)

sorry trichome i should have waited.

everyone seems to have heard the word.
(is that a smile at the end? a secret knowing smile LOL)

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Date: 7/08/2012 17:49:49
From: trichome
ID: 184389
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


trichome said:

trichome said:

i know the word but not the meaning, sounds like something boring or dull ? :)

sorry trichome i should have waited.

everyone seems to have heard the word.
(is that a smile at the end? a secret knowing smile LOL)

no problems, i got in late today, the smile, knowing, nah, i type the smile lots, didn’t know the meaning, but knew of the word :)

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Date: 7/08/2012 22:39:11
From: Dinetta
ID: 184444
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:

i know the word but not the meaning, sounds like something boring or dull ? :)

I’ve often thought that about arcane myself…which is why I’ve never used it I suppose…

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Date: 8/08/2012 12:02:27
From: justin
ID: 184549
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


trichome said:

i know the word but not the meaning, sounds like something boring or dull ? :)

I’ve often thought that about arcane myself…which is why I’ve never used it I suppose…

arcadia is an old name for greece and could be the word that made us think of ancient connotations for arcane.

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Date: 8/08/2012 12:06:39
From: Dinetta
ID: 184551
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:

arcadia is an old name for greece and could be the word that made us think of ancient connotations for arcane.

Well there you go, something new for the day…there is a place south of here generally known as the Arcardia Valley, which I’ve always thought meant something like Paradise…if you like the Orstrayan bush, this area is close …

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Date: 8/08/2012 12:08:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 184553
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


Dinetta said:

trichome said:

i know the word but not the meaning, sounds like something boring or dull ? :)

I’ve often thought that about arcane myself…which is why I’ve never used it I suppose…

;)

arcadia is an old name for greece and could be the word that made us think of ancient connotations for arcane.

you’ll have to open this in a new page or tab.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157624734963434/

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Date: 8/08/2012 12:21:30
From: justin
ID: 184554
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


justin said:

Dinetta said:

I’ve often thought that about arcane myself…which is why I’ve never used it I suppose…

;)

arcadia is an old name for greece and could be the word that made us think of ancient connotations for arcane.

you’ll have to open this in a new page or tab.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157624734963434/

nice piccies – so arcadia also refers to rural and rustic –
must look up ‘arcade’ – a shopping gallery – where did that come from?

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Date: 8/08/2012 12:26:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 184555
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


roughbarked said:

justin said:

;)

arcadia is an old name for greece and could be the word that made us think of ancient connotations for arcane.

you’ll have to open this in a new page or tab.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157624734963434/

nice piccies – so arcadia also refers to rural and rustic –
must look up ‘arcade’ – a shopping gallery – where did that come from?

The road is actually named Arcadia Lane.

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Date: 8/08/2012 14:05:16
From: bon008
ID: 184561
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Here’s a good one, and probably closer to the usage in the news item:

“requiring secret knowledge to be understood”…

I wonder if we tend to have that “ye olde” connotation to it because it was a much more relevant word in prior times? e.g. back when very few people could read, or get access to the bible etc, there was a lot of “secret knowledge” going around, but these days we have huge resources available to us, should we have the inclination to learn things.

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Date: 8/08/2012 15:43:33
From: bluegreen
ID: 184569
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


Dinetta said:

trichome said:

i know the word but not the meaning, sounds like something boring or dull ? :)

I’ve often thought that about arcane myself…which is why I’ve never used it I suppose…

arcadia is an old name for greece and could be the word that made us think of ancient connotations for arcane.

I think for me it is the context where I have seen it used, such as in fantasy fiction which tends towards medieval type cultures rich in magic, thus giving me the impression of old and magical. Certainly in that context you would describe the magical arts as being secretive and mysterious, and therefore arcane.

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Date: 8/08/2012 15:46:04
From: bluegreen
ID: 184570
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


justin said:

Dinetta said:

I’ve often thought that about arcane myself…which is why I’ve never used it I suppose…

;)

arcadia is an old name for greece and could be the word that made us think of ancient connotations for arcane.

you’ll have to open this in a new page or tab.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157624734963434/

Oh, I love the Early Nancy :)

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Date: 8/08/2012 16:45:05
From: justin
ID: 184576
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

Here’s a good one, and probably closer to the usage in the news item:

“requiring secret knowledge to be understood”…

I wonder if we tend to have that “ye olde” connotation to it because it was a much more relevant word in prior times? e.g. back when very few people could read, or get access to the bible etc, there was a lot of “secret knowledge” going around, but these days we have huge resources available to us, should we have the inclination to learn things.

I’m reading ‘Notebooks from New Guinea’ by V. Novotny at present. The population of the island is 6 million and they have 1,043 languages. When the bible translators spend 2 years with a tribe the resulting bible is usually the one and only book in that language. Guaranteed best seller in the region requiring very unique knowledge. LOL.

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Date: 23/08/2012 12:09:43
From: Dinetta
ID: 190673
Subject: re: Words 2012

Desperency

and I don’t know the answer…

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Date: 23/08/2012 12:17:06
From: bon008
ID: 190674
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Desperency

and I don’t know the answer…

Ooh, where did you see that one?

I’m completely stumped.

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Date: 23/08/2012 12:23:09
From: Dinetta
ID: 190676
Subject: re: Words 2012

My daughter (in real estate) emailed me and asked if it was even a word…I have a feeling, what do you think about despair as a base for this word?

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Date: 23/08/2012 12:30:18
From: Happy Potter
ID: 190678
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


My daughter (in real estate) emailed me and asked if it was even a word…I have a feeling, what do you think about despair as a base for this word?

Sounds like a variation of desperate

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Date: 23/08/2012 12:42:05
From: justin
ID: 190682
Subject: re: Words 2012

Happy Potter said:


Dinetta said:

My daughter (in real estate) emailed me and asked if it was even a word…I have a feeling, what do you think about despair as a base for this word?

Sounds like a variation of desperate

i would agree

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Date: 23/08/2012 12:49:51
From: bluegreen
ID: 190684
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Desperency

and I don’t know the answer…

I don’t think it is a word. I googled it to see and it gave all these other alternatives except in situations where they are asking if it is a word! Maybe it will be one day if people keep using it but I think the word they want is desperation. Alternatively it may be a misspelling of discrepancy.

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Date: 23/08/2012 13:00:37
From: bon008
ID: 190688
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

Desperency

and I don’t know the answer…

I don’t think it is a word. I googled it to see and it gave all these other alternatives except in situations where they are asking if it is a word! Maybe it will be one day if people keep using it but I think the word they want is desperation. Alternatively it may be a misspelling of discrepancy.

Yep, if it were a real word I would say maybe it could have been in use a long time ago and has since been replaced by desperation? But (depending on the context) I think it’s more likely someone just got it all wrong.

Apparently “desperacy” is used by some, but I can’t think why you wouldn’t just say desperation??
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/desperacy

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Date: 23/08/2012 14:51:41
From: Dinetta
ID: 190699
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

Desperency

and I don’t know the answer…

I don’t think it is a word. I googled it to see and it gave all these other alternatives except in situations where they are asking if it is a word! Maybe it will be one day if people keep using it but I think the word they want is desperation. Alternatively it may be a misspelling of discrepancy.

You broke the rules! And I’m pretty sure desperation is not the answer…nor discrepancy…

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Date: 23/08/2012 14:52:41
From: Dinetta
ID: 190700
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:

Apparently “desperacy” is used by some, but I can’t think why you wouldn’t just say desperation??
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/desperacy

et tu, Bon?

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Date: 23/08/2012 14:55:20
From: bon008
ID: 190702
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


bon008 said:

Apparently “desperacy” is used by some, but I can’t think why you wouldn’t just say desperation??
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/desperacy

et tu, Bon?

Well, I only looked it up after I saw that BG had :D

Would expect very different Google results if it was a real word, even an old and out of use one.

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Date: 23/08/2012 15:01:51
From: Dinetta
ID: 190706
Subject: re: Words 2012

I think it’s a Yank invention, myself…I’ve seen some of their words that make me shake my head…can’t think of an example…and what’s worse, I’ve seen at least one of them used by an Australian journalist…what was their sub-Editor thinking of?

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Date: 23/08/2012 15:14:17
From: bon008
ID: 190707
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


I think it’s a Yank invention, myself…I’ve seen some of their words that make me shake my head…can’t think of an example…and what’s worse, I’ve seen at least one of them used by an Australian journalist…what was their sub-Editor thinking of?

I had a boss once who used to say irregardless regularly :( Drove me batty.

I’ve come across a few lately at work which I could’ve sworn were made up, but turned out to be real. Things like incentivise and ideate. Ugh. They just feel awful to me.

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Date: 23/08/2012 15:19:05
From: Dinetta
ID: 190709
Subject: re: Words 2012

Ideate I’ve head, not incentivise, tho’ … now that sounds like an Americanism…thank goodness they did not invent English…

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Date: 23/08/2012 16:10:14
From: trichome
ID: 190711
Subject: re: Words 2012

His Glory

There is something about selflessnes, that has
everything to do with years of our failures, that
will lead us to the desperency to see that it is
nothing that we have accomplished.
He has done it once and for All. To him be the glory

Eph.3:21

might be some old word not used now ?

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Date: 23/08/2012 17:02:44
From: Dinetta
ID: 190721
Subject: re: Words 2012

Could be, I’ve not come across it tho’, and am not a Bible Student…did study Old and Middle English …

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Date: 23/08/2012 17:07:48
From: painmaster
ID: 190724
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Desperency

and I don’t know the answer…

left overs after removing some from a whole and not getting the right answer?

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Date: 23/08/2012 17:12:05
From: Dinetta
ID: 190725
Subject: re: Words 2012

PM I think it’s to do with despair / desperation and has been coined by somebody who’s not got a good command of the English language…found it on a blog by an Indian, of all things… among other places… it probably fits in with the rythym of their speech, I think the bible quote might be Yankee?

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Date: 23/08/2012 17:13:57
From: painmaster
ID: 190726
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

Desperency

and I don’t know the answer…

I don’t think it is a word. I googled it to see and it gave all these other alternatives except in situations where they are asking if it is a word! Maybe it will be one day if people keep using it but I think the word they want is desperation. Alternatively it may be a misspelling of discrepancy.

Maybe that’s the one I was thinking of?

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Date: 23/08/2012 17:36:50
From: bluegreen
ID: 190738
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

Desperency

and I don’t know the answer…

I don’t think it is a word. I googled it to see and it gave all these other alternatives except in situations where they are asking if it is a word! Maybe it will be one day if people keep using it but I think the word they want is desperation. Alternatively it may be a misspelling of discrepancy.

You broke the rules! And I’m pretty sure desperation is not the answer…nor discrepancy…

Sorry! I wouldn’t have said anything if I found a legit meaning! We are still none the wiser. I didn’t think non-words counted in the game.

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Date: 23/08/2012 17:44:28
From: bluegreen
ID: 190739
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

I think it’s a Yank invention, myself…I’ve seen some of their words that make me shake my head…can’t think of an example…and what’s worse, I’ve seen at least one of them used by an Australian journalist…what was their sub-Editor thinking of?

I had a boss once who used to say irregardless regularly :( Drove me batty.

I’ve come across a few lately at work which I could’ve sworn were made up, but turned out to be real. Things like incentivise and ideate. Ugh. They just feel awful to me.

I looked them up. This is what Urban Dictionary says about incentivise…


Incentivize
A corporate-jargon non-word meaning “motivate,” coined in 1968. Some 10 years later, it was shortened to the equally annoying verb “incent.” Unfortunately, both are recognized by both Merriam-Webster and the OED.

The only respectable form of the word is the noun “incentive.”

I would like to motivate him to never say “incentivize” again by telling him I will rip his windpipe out of his throat the next time I hear him say it.

I hope everyone who says “incentivize” in earnest knows they come across as a jargon-spewing ahole.

and of ideate…

Ideate

Having already consumed a food item or meal.

Joe: Hey, Jim, we’re going to Taco Bell, do you want to join?
Jim: Nah, man. Ideate.

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Date: 23/08/2012 17:50:03
From: bluegreen
ID: 190740
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


His Glory

There is something about selflessnes, that has
everything to do with years of our failures, that
will lead us to the desperency to see that it is
nothing that we have accomplished.
He has done it once and for All. To him be the glory

Eph.3:21

might be some old word not used now ?

Umm, that’s not right. Eph 3:21 says

21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen. (New International Version)
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Date: 23/08/2012 17:55:13
From: Dinetta
ID: 190741
Subject: re: Words 2012

Yes but until you looked it up, did you know “desperancy” was a non-word…that’s the thing…

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Date: 23/08/2012 18:12:07
From: bluegreen
ID: 190745
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Yes but until you looked it up, did you know “desperancy” was a non-word…that’s the thing…

No. hangs head

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Date: 23/08/2012 18:15:52
From: Dinetta
ID: 190748
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

Yes but until you looked it up, did you know “desperancy” was a non-word…that’s the thing…

No. hangs head

I’d prefer daggers of flame… can handle them better…..

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Date: 23/08/2012 18:46:20
From: Dinetta
ID: 190764
Subject: re: Words 2012

reductionist…

Yes you probably all know that one but I was unaware tonight that it was in popular usage…

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Date: 23/08/2012 18:50:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 190768
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

Yes but until you looked it up, did you know “desperancy” was a non-word…that’s the thing…

No. hangs head

Never had a problem. Why could it ever be a word?

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Date: 23/08/2012 19:22:18
From: Dinetta
ID: 190805
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

Yes but until you looked it up, did you know “desperancy” was a non-word…that’s the thing…

No. hangs head

Never had a problem. Why could it ever be a word?

Because you don’t know what the clever Yanks have invented…

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Date: 23/08/2012 19:22:46
From: Dinetta
ID: 190806
Subject: re: Words 2012

…and I say that sarcastically about the Yanks (ab)use of the English language…

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Date: 23/08/2012 20:28:03
From: justin
ID: 190851
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


reductionist…

Yes you probably all know that one but I was unaware tonight that it was in popular usage…

deconstructionivist (sp?)

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Date: 23/08/2012 20:30:24
From: bluegreen
ID: 190855
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


Dinetta said:

reductionist…

Yes you probably all know that one but I was unaware tonight that it was in popular usage…

deconstructionivist (sp?)

someone who goes back to basics? anti-consumerist?

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Date: 23/08/2012 20:57:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 190882
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


justin said:

Dinetta said:

reductionist…

Yes you probably all know that one but I was unaware tonight that it was in popular usage…

deconstructionivist (sp?)


someone who goes back to basics? anti-consumerist?

Antidisestalblishmentarianismalist

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Date: 23/08/2012 21:05:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 190890
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


bluegreen said:

justin said:

deconstructionivist (sp?)


someone who goes back to basics? anti-consumerist?

Antidisestalblishmentarianismalist

antidisestablishmentarianism
\an`ti*dis`es*tab`lish*men*ta“ri*an*ism\

(n*t*ds`s*tb`lsh*men*tr”*n*z’m), n. the doctrine or political position that opposes the withdrawal of state recognition of an established church; — used especially concerning the Anglican Church in England. Opposed to {disestablishmentarianism}.
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Date: 23/08/2012 23:58:50
From: bon008
ID: 190998
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


His Glory

There is something about selflessnes, that has
everything to do with years of our failures, that
will lead us to the desperency to see that it is
nothing that we have accomplished.
He has done it once and for All. To him be the glory

Eph.3:21

might be some old word not used now ?

I came across that, and tried to look up the bible reference – problem is, there are so many versions it would take ages to check all of them.

I think, though, that only “He has done it once and for All. To him be the glory” is the bible quote there, and the rest is just somebody else’s words..

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Date: 24/08/2012 00:00:00
From: bon008
ID: 190999
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


bon008 said:

Dinetta said:

I think it’s a Yank invention, myself…I’ve seen some of their words that make me shake my head…can’t think of an example…and what’s worse, I’ve seen at least one of them used by an Australian journalist…what was their sub-Editor thinking of?

I had a boss once who used to say irregardless regularly :( Drove me batty.

I’ve come across a few lately at work which I could’ve sworn were made up, but turned out to be real. Things like incentivise and ideate. Ugh. They just feel awful to me.

I looked them up. This is what Urban Dictionary says about incentivise…


Incentivize
A corporate-jargon non-word meaning “motivate,” coined in 1968. Some 10 years later, it was shortened to the equally annoying verb “incent.” Unfortunately, both are recognized by both Merriam-Webster and the OED.

The only respectable form of the word is the noun “incentive.”

I would like to motivate him to never say “incentivize” again by telling him I will rip his windpipe out of his throat the next time I hear him say it.

I hope everyone who says “incentivize” in earnest knows they come across as a jargon-spewing ahole.

and of ideate…

Ideate

Having already consumed a food item or meal.

Joe: Hey, Jim, we’re going to Taco Bell, do you want to join?
Jim: Nah, man. Ideate.


Haha! I prefer that to the way ideate is used in my workplace :D

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Date: 24/08/2012 00:02:38
From: bon008
ID: 191001
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


reductionist…

Yes you probably all know that one but I was unaware tonight that it was in popular usage…

Is that just someone with a tendency to reduce things down to absolutes? Like having a clear-cut, black and white view of things.

Interested to see what others say before I look it up..

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Date: 24/08/2012 01:20:51
From: Dinetta
ID: 191004
Subject: re: Words 2012

Interesting, Bon…going back to review the context I saw it in…

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Date: 24/08/2012 01:29:34
From: Dinetta
ID: 191005
Subject: re: Words 2012

Here we go:

“… the media’s and wider society’s reductionist view of the issue. …”

I can see where the “reduction to absolutes” comes from,,,

but in terms of the topic being discussed, the above quote is a wank by the writer, I reckon…

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Date: 24/08/2012 08:36:01
From: Happy Potter
ID: 191029
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

reductionist…

Yes you probably all know that one but I was unaware tonight that it was in popular usage…

Is that just someone with a tendency to reduce things down to absolutes? Like having a clear-cut, black and white view of things.

Interested to see what others say before I look it up..

Person who works on Count Down? ;)

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Date: 24/08/2012 08:39:21
From: Dinetta
ID: 191030
Subject: re: Words 2012

LOL!

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Date: 24/08/2012 08:42:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 191031
Subject: re: Words 2012

person who works on reductionism.

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Date: 24/08/2012 11:30:17
From: Dinetta
ID: 191112
Subject: re: Words 2012

My daughter got back to me, she didn’t read it anywhere, heard it, and it means “difference”. Go figure. Makes no sense to me. I have told her nobody thinks it’s a word for real.

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Date: 24/08/2012 15:00:51
From: justin
ID: 191162
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Here we go:

“… the media’s and wider society’s reductionist view of the issue. …”

I can see where the “reduction to absolutes” comes from,,,

but in terms of the topic being discussed, the above quote is a wank by the writer, I reckon…

i looked it up and its not a word i like.

it would be better to explain that a complex issue has been studied by isolating its components.
i also dislike the anagrams – MSD, IGL, ANU, IOF and zillions more. these new words lead to more confusion rather than more understanding.

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Date: 24/08/2012 15:03:16
From: justin
ID: 191165
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

someone who goes back to basics? anti-consumerist?

Antidisestalblishmentarianismalist

antidisestablishmentarianism
\an`ti*dis`es*tab`lish*men*ta“ri*an*ism\

(n*t*ds`s*tb`lsh*men*tr”*n*z’m), n. the doctrine or political position that opposes the withdrawal of state recognition of an established church; — used especially concerning the Anglican Church in England. Opposed to {disestablishmentarianism}.

is it longest word in the english language?

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Date: 24/08/2012 15:09:45
From: bon008
ID: 191169
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


My daughter got back to me, she didn’t read it anywhere, heard it, and it means “difference”. Go figure. Makes no sense to me. I have told her nobody thinks it’s a word for real.

Hmm.. sounds like maybe she misheard discrepancy?

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Date: 24/08/2012 15:12:23
From: bon008
ID: 191172
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


Dinetta said:

Here we go:

“… the media’s and wider society’s reductionist view of the issue. …”

I can see where the “reduction to absolutes” comes from,,,

but in terms of the topic being discussed, the above quote is a wank by the writer, I reckon…

i looked it up and its not a word i like.

it would be better to explain that a complex issue has been studied by isolating its components.
i also dislike the anagrams – MSD, IGL, ANU, IOF and zillions more. these new words lead to more confusion rather than more understanding.

Oooh. So a bit like the opposite of holistic, at least if you were using it in a health/medical context. Not sure it’s a word I’d have cause to use very often!

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Date: 24/08/2012 15:31:39
From: Dinetta
ID: 191179
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


Dinetta said:

Here we go:

“… the media’s and wider society’s reductionist view of the issue. …”

I can see where the “reduction to absolutes” comes from,,,

but in terms of the topic being discussed, the above quote is a wank by the writer, I reckon…

i looked it up and its not a word i like.

it would be better to explain that a complex issue has been studied by isolating its components.
i also dislike the anagrams – MSD, IGL, ANU, IOF and zillions more. these new words lead to more confusion rather than more understanding.

I don’t like it either, it just doesn’t “sound” right…in Qld here we had QR and QR, then QR became RQ …Queensland Rail stayed the same, Queensland Racing became Racing Queensland…

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Date: 24/08/2012 15:32:46
From: Dinetta
ID: 191181
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


Dinetta said:

My daughter got back to me, she didn’t read it anywhere, heard it, and it means “difference”. Go figure. Makes no sense to me. I have told her nobody thinks it’s a word for real.

Hmm.. sounds like maybe she misheard discrepancy?

That’s what I thought but no she would have heard the other…

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Date: 24/08/2012 15:35:48
From: justin
ID: 191182
Subject: re: Words 2012

bon008 said:


justin said:

Dinetta said:

Here we go:

“… the media’s and wider society’s reductionist view of the issue. …”

I can see where the “reduction to absolutes” comes from,,,

but in terms of the topic being discussed, the above quote is a wank by the writer, I reckon…

i looked it up and its not a word i like.

it would be better to explain that a complex issue has been studied by isolating its components.
i also dislike the anagrams – MSD, IGL, ANU, IOF and zillions more. these new words lead to more confusion rather than more understanding.

Oooh. So a bit like the opposite of holistic, at least if you were using it in a health/medical context. Not sure it’s a word I’d have cause to use very often!

the opposite of holistic – very good – you just explained it.

i’m reading a book about a scientist who goes to study insects in papua new guinea. he has to count the bug species in a very small area because the tropical rainforest has thousands of bugs. he is trying to help calculate the biomass of the planet. the job is so difficult that estimates of the numbers of species of bugs varies ten fold. if we haven’t got a clue how many species exist, and we have no idea how much vegetation they are eating, we are an incredibly long way off any global census of biomass.
i guess he is a reductionist but his writing is very holistic. he says most research scientists can’t stand the malaria ridden tropics and so the problem is not likely to be solved any time soon.

the PNG natives have a fair idea of what bugs live where because the forest is their backyard. but the natives can’t understand why such rich white people spend their time pinning bugs to a board – especially since the bugs are all brown, 7cm long and inedible.

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Date: 24/08/2012 19:15:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 191275
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Antidisestalblishmentarianismalist

antidisestablishmentarianism
\an`ti*dis`es*tab`lish*men*ta“ri*an*ism\

(n*t*ds`s*tb`lsh*men*tr”*n*z’m), n. the doctrine or political position that opposes the withdrawal of state recognition of an established church; — used especially concerning the Anglican Church in England. Opposed to {disestablishmentarianism}.

is it longest word in the english language?

If you exclude medical scientific words, yes it probably still is.

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Date: 21/09/2012 20:25:51
From: trichome
ID: 202493
Subject: re: Words 2012

turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

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Date: 21/09/2012 21:49:21
From: bon008
ID: 202555
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

Oh goodness. This feels SO familiar but I can’t quite grasp it!

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Date: 21/09/2012 22:09:51
From: painmaster
ID: 202570
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

I heard that one tonight… didn’t Aunt Joan say something about years of turpitude?

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Date: 21/09/2012 22:42:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 202597
Subject: re: Words 2012

painmaster said:


trichome said:

turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

I heard that one tonight… didn’t Aunt Joan say something about years of turpitude?

Inherent baseness

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Date: 22/09/2012 08:58:08
From: trichome
ID: 202766
Subject: re: Words 2012

painmaster said:


trichome said:

turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

I heard that one tonight… didn’t Aunt Joan say something about years of turpitude?

yes she did :)

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Date: 22/09/2012 08:59:15
From: trichome
ID: 202767
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


painmaster said:

trichome said:

turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

I heard that one tonight… didn’t Aunt Joan say something about years of turpitude?

Inherent baseness

did you look that up ? :)

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Date: 22/09/2012 09:50:01
From: bluegreen
ID: 202778
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

I watched it, I heard it, but I can’t remember the context!

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Date: 22/09/2012 12:25:03
From: justin
ID: 202807
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

wariness?

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Date: 22/09/2012 12:43:47
From: bluegreen
ID: 202809
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


painmaster said:

trichome said:

turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

I heard that one tonight… didn’t Aunt Joan say something about years of turpitude?

Inherent baseness

having been reminded of the context, I agree with RB. Base, corrupt, sinful. In relationship to her affair.

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Date: 22/09/2012 15:08:39
From: trichome
ID: 202838
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


roughbarked said:

painmaster said:

I heard that one tonight… didn’t Aunt Joan say something about years of turpitude?

Inherent baseness

having been reminded of the context, I agree with RB. Base, corrupt, sinful. In relationship to her affair.

i think her words were ‘gross turpitude’.

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Date: 23/09/2012 02:30:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 203188
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


roughbarked said:

painmaster said:

I heard that one tonight… didn’t Aunt Joan say something about years of turpitude?

Inherent baseness

did you look that up ? :)

Didn’t have to but for the mark of accuracy, I did check.

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Date: 23/09/2012 02:31:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 203189
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


trichome said:

turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

I watched it, I heard it, but I can’t remember the context!

was to do with her long lost boyfriend and their time together.

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Date: 23/09/2012 05:35:28
From: painmaster
ID: 203201
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


bluegreen said:

trichome said:

turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

I watched it, I heard it, but I can’t remember the context!

was to do with her long lost boyfriend and their time together.

It seemed a few of us watched Doc Martin the other night…

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Date: 23/09/2012 06:09:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 203204
Subject: re: Words 2012

painmaster said:


roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

I watched it, I heard it, but I can’t remember the context!

was to do with her long lost boyfriend and their time together.

It seemed a few of us watched Doc Martin the other night…

If you don’t have pay TV, you have less crappy stations to flick throough when the abc hsn’t got something interesting on. Television has largely lost its appeal.

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Date: 23/09/2012 07:53:00
From: painmaster
ID: 203211
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


painmaster said:

roughbarked said:

was to do with her long lost boyfriend and their time together.

It seemed a few of us watched Doc Martin the other night…

If you don’t have pay TV, you have less crappy stations to flick throough when the abc hsn’t got something interesting on. Television has largely lost its appeal.

Agreed. If nothing is worth watching on SBS or the ABC, my go to channel is the ABC News 24. Miriam Korowa is looking a little dehydrated this morning, me thinks she might have had a big Saturday night???

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Date: 23/09/2012 12:30:44
From: justin
ID: 203286
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


trichome said:

turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

wariness?

trepidation is probably what i was thinking.

RB seems to have his latin derivations off pat.

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Date: 23/09/2012 12:59:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 203308
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


justin said:

trichome said:

turpitude, there it is, turpitude, a new one on me, as spoken on doc martin tonight :)

wariness?

trepidation is probably what i was thinking.

RB seems to have his latin derivations off pat.

How did you come to that conclusion?

I suppose that if I do it is perhaps due to me defining taxonomic names
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Date: 23/09/2012 16:24:28
From: justin
ID: 203385
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


justin said:

justin said:

wariness?

trepidation is probably what i was thinking.

RB seems to have his latin derivations off pat.

How did you come to that conclusion?

I suppose that if I do it is perhaps due to me defining taxonomic names

you knew the etymology of arcane as well.

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Date: 24/09/2012 08:29:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 203743
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


roughbarked said:

justin said:

trepidation is probably what i was thinking.

RB seems to have his latin derivations off pat.

How did you come to that conclusion?

I suppose that if I do it is perhaps due to me defining taxonomic names

you knew the etymology of arcane as well.

Ah, then I suppose it simply relates to the fact that I read a lot before our family got TV.

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Date: 24/09/2012 13:06:01
From: bon008
ID: 203815
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

Inherent baseness

having been reminded of the context, I agree with RB. Base, corrupt, sinful. In relationship to her affair.

i think her words were ‘gross turpitude’.

OK, I never would have gotten that right. No idea why it felt so familiar to me!

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Date: 25/09/2012 10:16:17
From: Dinetta
ID: 204160
Subject: re: Words 2012

I’ve looked this up in wiki as I’ve just accepted the gist of it in reading, not really tried to nail down the meaning…has everyone finished guessing yet?

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Date: 25/09/2012 10:43:29
From: bluegreen
ID: 204164
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


I’ve looked this up in wiki as I’ve just accepted the gist of it in reading, not really tried to nail down the meaning…has everyone finished guessing yet?

I think it has been accepted that RB got it right :)

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Date: 25/09/2012 11:28:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 204170
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


Dinetta said:

I’ve looked this up in wiki as I’ve just accepted the gist of it in reading, not really tried to nail down the meaning…has everyone finished guessing yet?

I think it has been accepted that RB got it right :)

TURPITUDE. Everything done contrary to justice, honesty, modesty or good
morals, is said to be done with turpitude.

everything of an inherently base nature.

36 Moby Thesaurus words for “turpitude”: abandon, abandonment, abjection, baseness, chicanery, corruptedness, corruption, corruptness, debasement, decadence, decadency, degeneracy, degenerateness, degeneration, degradation, demoralization, depravation, depravedness, depravity, dissoluteness, knavery, knavishness, moral pollution, moral turpitude, profligacy, rascality, rascalry, reprobacy, roguery, roguishness, rottenness, scampishness, scoundrelism, vileness, villainousness, villainy

turpitude n 1: a corrupt or depraved or degenerate act or practice; “the various turpitudes of modern society”

Turpitude \Tur“pi*tude\, n. Inherent baseness or vileness of principle, words, or actions; shameful wickedness; depravity. —Shak.

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Date: 25/09/2012 15:59:09
From: Dinetta
ID: 204269
Subject: re: Words 2012

I came across this , which has pretty much what RoughBarked said, must have missed his earlier post…mostly I’ve heard it as “gross moral turpitude”… and so often as “moral turpitude” one would think there was an understood hyphen between the words…

I must have come on to that episode after Aunt Joan uttered the phrase…

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Date: 11/10/2012 06:06:01
From: painmaster
ID: 210907
Subject: re: Words 2012

I don’t often come up with a word for this thread nor are my responses often close. I am no wordsmith in reality but I did hear one yesterday that made me go “oooh must write that down for my word-nerd friends”.

Vacillation

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Date: 11/10/2012 09:09:05
From: justin
ID: 210965
Subject: re: Words 2012

painmaster said:


I don’t often come up with a word for this thread nor are my responses often close. I am no wordsmith in reality but I did hear one yesterday that made me go “oooh must write that down for my word-nerd friends”.

Vacillation

indecision

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Date: 11/10/2012 09:26:16
From: bluegreen
ID: 210973
Subject: re: Words 2012

painmaster said:


I don’t often come up with a word for this thread nor are my responses often close. I am no wordsmith in reality but I did hear one yesterday that made me go “oooh must write that down for my word-nerd friends”.

Vacillation

to vacillate – to go to and fro from one state to another, to be indecisive, in two minds.

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Date: 11/10/2012 09:46:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 210980
Subject: re: Words 2012

describes the actions of swinging voters.

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Date: 11/10/2012 11:19:50
From: Dinetta
ID: 211031
Subject: re: Words 2012

painmaster said:


I don’t often come up with a word for this thread nor are my responses often close. I am no wordsmith in reality but I did hear one yesterday that made me go “oooh must write that down for my word-nerd friends”.

Vacillation

It’s not oscillation, but it does mean to move between two points, as if the object can’t make up its’ mind…

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Date: 11/10/2012 11:33:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 211046
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


painmaster said:

I don’t often come up with a word for this thread nor are my responses often close. I am no wordsmith in reality but I did hear one yesterday that made me go “oooh must write that down for my word-nerd friends”.

Vacillation

It’s not oscillation, but it does mean to move between two points, as if the object can’t make up its’ mind…

A clock pendulum may be seen as not knowing which position it wants to be in but in truth the impulse to move isn’t it’s choice.

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Date: 11/10/2012 19:24:45
From: Dinetta
ID: 211246
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


Dinetta said:

painmaster said:

I don’t often come up with a word for this thread nor are my responses often close. I am no wordsmith in reality but I did hear one yesterday that made me go “oooh must write that down for my word-nerd friends”.

Vacillation

It’s not oscillation, but it does mean to move between two points, as if the object can’t make up its’ mind…

A clock pendulum may be seen as not knowing which position it wants to be in but in truth the impulse to move isn’t it’s choice.

… that’s oscillation….

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Date: 11/10/2012 19:36:03
From: painmaster
ID: 211250
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

It’s not oscillation, but it does mean to move between two points, as if the object can’t make up its’ mind…

A clock pendulum may be seen as not knowing which position it wants to be in but in truth the impulse to move isn’t it’s choice.

… that’s oscillation….

Wow, all youse guys knew what it meant… My next question is… where did I hear it? During our last challenge of “turpitude” we all knew it came from one particular teev show…. now what show was Vacillation on?

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Date: 11/10/2012 21:43:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 211337
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

It’s not oscillation, but it does mean to move between two points, as if the object can’t make up its’ mind…

A clock pendulum may be seen as not knowing which position it wants to be in but in truth the impulse to move isn’t it’s choice.

… that’s oscillation….

yeah, I know.

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Date: 12/10/2012 11:17:54
From: Dinetta
ID: 211581
Subject: re: Words 2012

apopthegm

I’ve come across it in a novel… looks like fun… remember no checking dictionaries or “you can’t play”…

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Date: 12/10/2012 11:30:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 211593
Subject: re: Words 2012

I think apo means to speak or speak out?

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Date: 12/10/2012 11:31:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 211598
Subject: re: Words 2012

speaking of novels, who has read all the Phryne Fisher Murder Mysteries?

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Date: 12/10/2012 12:37:52
From: Dinetta
ID: 211678
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


speaking of novels, who has read all the Phryne Fisher Murder Mysteries?

Oh, I have! and the Melbourne Baker ones as well (can’t remember the name of the heroine)…

Well I’ve read nearly all the Phrynne Fishers…now there’s a sultry style…

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Date: 12/10/2012 18:57:01
From: painmaster
ID: 211894
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


apopthegm

I’ve come across it in a novel… looks like fun… remember no checking dictionaries or “you can’t play”…

the sound Michael Jackson made when he sneezed?

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Date: 12/10/2012 20:11:49
From: Yeehah
ID: 211928
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


apopthegm

I’ve come across it in a novel… looks like fun… remember no checking dictionaries or “you can’t play”…

An apoplectic theorist?

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Date: 12/10/2012 20:40:52
From: justin
ID: 211940
Subject: re: Words 2012

painmaster said:


Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

A clock pendulum may be seen as not knowing which position it wants to be in but in truth the impulse to move isn’t it’s choice.

… that’s oscillation….

Wow, all youse guys knew what it meant… My next question is… where did I hear it? During our last challenge of “turpitude” we all knew it came from one particular teev show…. now what show was Vacillation on?

mmm?? = a bit harder – so who is teev’s most famous procrastinator?
kochie! – accountant’s always sit on the fence?

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Date: 12/10/2012 20:46:44
From: justin
ID: 211944
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


apopthegm

I’ve come across it in a novel… looks like fun… remember no checking dictionaries or “you can’t play”…

sounds ecclesiastical – or pharmesutical

a medicine of some sort?
context?

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Date: 12/10/2012 22:42:17
From: Dinetta
ID: 212011
Subject: re: Words 2012

painmaster said:


Dinetta said:

apopthegm

I’ve come across it in a novel… looks like fun… remember no checking dictionaries or “you can’t play”…

the sound Michael Jackson made when he sneezed?

Cute!

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Date: 12/10/2012 22:45:09
From: Dinetta
ID: 212013
Subject: re: Words 2012

Actually speaking it was used to describe the oratory of a cleric (in this novel)…

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Date: 12/10/2012 22:46:01
From: Dinetta
ID: 212015
Subject: re: Words 2012

Yeehah said:


Dinetta said:

apopthegm

I’ve come across it in a novel… looks like fun… remember no checking dictionaries or “you can’t play”…

An apoplectic theorist?

Sorry Yeehah, good effort tho’ as the “theorist” is close…

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Date: 12/10/2012 22:53:43
From: painmaster
ID: 212022
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


painmaster said:

Dinetta said:

… that’s oscillation….

Wow, all youse guys knew what it meant… My next question is… where did I hear it? During our last challenge of “turpitude” we all knew it came from one particular teev show…. now what show was Vacillation on?

mmm?? = a bit harder – so who is teev’s most famous procrastinator?
kochie! – accountant’s always sit on the fence?

Kochie’s a wanker.

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Date: 13/10/2012 19:45:40
From: justin
ID: 212479
Subject: re: Words 2012

painmaster said:


justin said:

painmaster said:

Wow, all youse guys knew what it meant… My next question is… where did I hear it? During our last challenge of “turpitude” we all knew it came from one particular teev show…. now what show was Vacillation on?

mmm?? = a bit harder – so who is teev’s most famous procrastinator?
kochie! – accountant’s always sit on the fence?

Kochie’s a wanker.

umm? so SBS and ABC only then –

NIGELLA ! – she used vacillate – didn’t she?

am I the only one finding this answer?
everyone else’s talking cameras

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Date: 14/10/2012 02:16:22
From: painmaster
ID: 212658
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


painmaster said:

justin said:

mmm?? = a bit harder – so who is teev’s most famous procrastinator?
kochie! – accountant’s always sit on the fence?

Kochie’s a wanker.

umm? so SBS and ABC only then –

NIGELLA ! – she used vacillate – didn’t she?

am I the only one finding this answer?
everyone else’s talking cameras

No, not Nigella, but it was a female who is just as lovely to view and listen too. And yeah, seeing as it is all about cameras at the mo’, the answer is and was; Annabel Crabb in that wonderful series Kitchen Cabinet!

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Date: 14/10/2012 12:48:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 212780
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


roughbarked said:

speaking of novels, who has read all the Phryne Fisher Murder Mysteries?

Oh, I have! and the Melbourne Baker ones as well (can’t remember the name of the heroine)…

Well I’ve read nearly all the Phrynne Fishers…now there’s a sultry style…

sultry indeed :)

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Date: 14/10/2012 14:08:37
From: Dinetta
ID: 212804
Subject: re: Words 2012

The meaning of apopthegm is a bit of an anticlimax (haven’t gone back through the thread, sorry if someone’s guessed it…)

apophthegm, apothegm
n
a short cryptic remark containing some general or generally accepted truth; maxim

apophthegmatic , apothegmatic adj

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

URL here

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Date: 14/10/2012 14:19:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 212811
Subject: re: Words 2012

I said.. speaking, speaking out. ;)

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Date: 14/10/2012 15:43:49
From: Dinetta
ID: 212832
Subject: re: Words 2012

Indeed you did, but there was no maxim in what you said,,,,sorry, no cigar….

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Date: 14/10/2012 16:46:11
From: justin
ID: 212879
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


The meaning of apopthegm is a bit of an anticlimax (haven’t gone back through the thread, sorry if someone’s guessed it…)

apophthegm, apothegm
n
a short cryptic remark containing some general or generally accepted truth; maxim

apophthegmatic , apothegmatic adj

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

URL here

a frank opinion is the same as a maxim?
good word – now define sultry LOL.

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Date: 14/10/2012 17:19:30
From: justin
ID: 212885
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


Dinetta said:

The meaning of apopthegm is a bit of an anticlimax (haven’t gone back through the thread, sorry if someone’s guessed it…)

apophthegm, apothegm
n
a short cryptic remark containing some general or generally accepted truth; maxim

apophthegmatic , apothegmatic adj

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

URL here

a frank opinion is the same as a maxim?
good word – now define sultry LOL.

‘The presence of the inimitable Phryne Fisher makes this mystery a delightful, glamorous romp of a novel — a literary glass of champagne with a hint of debauchery.’ — Armidale Express

i see – she has to be that female sleuth on the ABC teev.
i haven’t read any of those books – but the critics are good with their words – ah but?

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Date: 14/10/2012 18:15:39
From: Dinetta
ID: 212929
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


Dinetta said:

The meaning of apopthegm is a bit of an anticlimax (haven’t gone back through the thread, sorry if someone’s guessed it…)

apophthegm, apothegm
n
a short cryptic remark containing some general or generally accepted truth; maxim

apophthegmatic , apothegmatic adj

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

URL here

a frank opinion is the same as a maxim?
good word – now define sultry LOL.

I’ll find the book and put up the quote…excuse the drivel I read from time to time, but some of the historical notes in this novel were very descriptive…

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Date: 14/10/2012 18:20:03
From: Dinetta
ID: 212934
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:

‘The presence of the inimitable Phryne Fisher makes this mystery a delightful, glamorous romp of a novel — a literary glass of champagne with a hint of debauchery.’ — Armidale Express

i see – she has to be that female sleuth on the ABC teev.
i haven’t read any of those books – but the critics are good with their words – ah but?

Don’t judge her by the TV shows…they were too fast-paced. I prefer the British sleuth shows that take 2.5 hours to develop and this is what the Phrynne Fisher adaptations deserve…

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Date: 16/10/2012 08:40:34
From: Dinetta
ID: 213736
Subject: re: Words 2012

Here is the context in which I found “apopthegm”…

“…It was a typical night at White’s.
‘Our dear Lord Libertine,’ the Reverend Dr. Throgmorton was just remarking, ‘has no sense of discretion, that is all. He does not know how to be discreet. There are sinners as great as he in London, I have no doubt – or almost as great.” His plump pink cheeks shook, his eyes radiated good humour. ‘But others are simply not so blatant, my dear Arundel. They see no need to conduct their affairs on the stage at Covent Garden, as it were. Hence all their peccadilloes remain obscure and unremarked. While yours —-’

He let a gesture of silent horror suffice.

‘Prudence, sir, prudence!’ he ended finally, with the obligatory apopthegm: ‘The highest point of virtue, sir, is prudence in our vices!’

He beamed rosily, our ale-swilling, fox-hunting parson, as the men around the table nodded, grunted, and reached for their wine or their snuffboxes. The Reverend Dr. Throgmorton was a type of preacher far from uncommon in these degenerate days – a red-faced, soft-bellied, worldly, witty man without a shred of religious sensitivity in his bones. He was the life and soul of ever assembly, and he knew it. “

Page 20, Lord Libertine, by Anthony Esler. Futura Publications Limited, Great Britain, 1978.
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Date: 25/12/2012 20:56:05
From: justin
ID: 244544
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


we have not had a word since July last year :(

well here it is, first one for 2012, the word is flagulitious

good luck :)

bump

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Date: 25/12/2012 21:50:18
From: Dinetta
ID: 244553
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


trichome said:

we have not had a word since July last year :(

well here it is, first one for 2012, the word is flagulitious

good luck :)

bump

LOL Christmas game? Like Scrabble? I need to go through this book, not sure of where the word was in the plot as I read the book in 4 – 5 sections, none of which were consecutive…

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Date: 25/12/2012 22:05:34
From: Dinetta
ID: 244559
Subject: re: Words 2012

Here’s one, but it’s not the one I’m looking for…

evanescent

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Date: 25/12/2012 22:19:44
From: justin
ID: 244565
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Here’s one, but it’s not the one I’m looking for…

evanescent

ok
i will think about it and take a considered guess in the morning
too many mistakes creeping in tonight.
cyas.

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Date: 26/12/2012 02:26:58
From: Dinetta
ID: 244670
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


Dinetta said:

Here’s one, but it’s not the one I’m looking for…

evanescent

ok
i will think about it and take a considered guess in the morning
too many mistakes creeping in tonight.
cyas.

Found another good one but lost the page, will take a notebook to bed and note the words and pages from now on…

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Date: 26/12/2012 11:46:53
From: justin
ID: 244731
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Here’s one, but it’s not the one I’m looking for…

evanescent

reminiscent of evan – and i’m hoping evan is a biblical character

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Date: 26/12/2012 13:36:22
From: Dinetta
ID: 244750
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


Dinetta said:

Here’s one, but it’s not the one I’m looking for…

evanescent

reminiscent of evan – and i’m hoping evan is a biblical character

LOL! love it! but no cigar…

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Date: 27/12/2012 00:23:53
From: painmaster
ID: 244990
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


justin said:

Dinetta said:

Here’s one, but it’s not the one I’m looking for…

evanescent

reminiscent of evan – and i’m hoping evan is a biblical character

LOL! love it! but no cigar…

name of a band that plays emo music with a female singer. I did look up the meaning once, but promptly forgot it, much in the same way I forgot the music they played.

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Date: 27/12/2012 00:29:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 244999
Subject: re: Words 2012

painmaster said:


Dinetta said:

justin said:

reminiscent of evan – and i’m hoping evan is a biblical character

LOL! love it! but no cigar…

name of a band that plays emo music with a female singer. I did look up the meaning once, but promptly forgot it, much in the same way I forgot the music they played.

Like a mirage. Vanishes before it realises.

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Date: 27/12/2012 07:27:07
From: Dinetta
ID: 245017
Subject: re: Words 2012

roughbarked said:


painmaster said:

Dinetta said:

LOL! love it! but no cigar…

name of a band that plays emo music with a female singer. I did look up the meaning once, but promptly forgot it, much in the same way I forgot the music they played.

Like a mirage. Vanishes before it realises.

Remembering the context, I think you might have it, RoughBarked…

Was there really an emo band with that name?

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Date: 27/12/2012 07:31:19
From: Dinetta
ID: 245018
Subject: re: Words 2012

The only suspect who hasn’t played yet is BlueGreen, and Bon008 of course is busy with her new bub (well she would be by now, I thought the big date was in October?)

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Date: 27/12/2012 08:12:47
From: painmaster
ID: 245027
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


justin said:

Dinetta said:

Here’s one, but it’s not the one I’m looking for…

evanescent

reminiscent of evan – and i’m hoping evan is a biblical character

LOL! love it! but no cigar…

Dinetta said:


roughbarked said:

painmaster said:

name of a band that plays emo music with a female singer. I did look up the meaning once, but promptly forgot it, much in the same way I forgot the music they played.

Like a mirage. Vanishes before it realises.

Remembering the context, I think you might have it, RoughBarked…

Was there really an emo band with that name?

From Little Rock, Arkansas…. but they spell the word a little differently. Evanescence

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Date: 27/12/2012 09:08:58
From: Dinetta
ID: 245038
Subject: re: Words 2012

I copied mine straight out of the book…but I was going to say it reminded me of “effervesence”…which is bubbly…

I’ll go and look it up now, sorry BlueGreen…

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Date: 27/12/2012 09:09:49
From: bluegreen
ID: 245039
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


I copied mine straight out of the book…but I was going to say it reminded me of “effervesence”…which is bubbly…

I’ll go and look it up now, sorry BlueGreen…

that’s OK. I don’t know the answer :)

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Date: 27/12/2012 09:13:55
From: Dinetta
ID: 245042
Subject: re: Words 2012

From Latin ēvānēscēns (“vanishing, disappearing”)

Adjective

1. Soon passing out of sight, memory, or existence; quickly fading or disappearing. 2. Denoting a field or wave that extends into a region where it cannot propagate and whose amplitude therefore decreases with distance.

Synonyms
transitory – transient – fleeting – ephemeral

Where it’s been used in the sentence, it suits the cadence of the sentence, but if we used it now-a-days the sense would not be there…

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Date: 27/12/2012 09:21:25
From: Dinetta
ID: 245045
Subject: re: Words 2012

So RoughBarked wins the contest! Applause all round and thanks for playing. How did you know the meaning, RoughBarked?

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Date: 27/12/2012 09:38:12
From: trichome
ID: 245048
Subject: re: Words 2012

didn’t know the meaning either, just coming in late there :)

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Date: 30/12/2012 13:47:27
From: Dinetta
ID: 246392
Subject: re: Words 2012

Here we are:
“Where, however, happy circumstance permits its development, the compounded feeling proves itself to be the only love which is strong as death – that love which many waters cannot quench, nor the floods drown, beside which the passion usually called by the name is evanescent as steam.”

p 393, Far From the Madding Crowd by Thomas Hardy. Pan Books, 1978.

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Date: 30/12/2012 13:47:49
From: Dinetta
ID: 246393
Subject: re: Words 2012

apotheosis

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Date: 30/12/2012 13:54:47
From: justin
ID: 246395
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Here we are:
“Where, however, happy circumstance permits its development, the compounded feeling proves itself to be the only love which is strong as death – that love which many waters cannot quench, nor the floods drown, beside which the passion usually called by the name is evanescent as steam.”

p 393, Far From the Madding Crowd by Thomas Hardy. Pan Books, 1978.

RB’s definition is better than the websters!
“Like a mirage. Vanishes before it realises.”

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Date: 30/12/2012 13:57:39
From: justin
ID: 246396
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


apotheosis

apothecary is a chemist.
so chemistry is my guess

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Date: 30/12/2012 13:58:16
From: Dinetta
ID: 246397
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:

RB’s definition is better than the websters!
“Like a mirage. Vanishes before it realises.”

I agree, much better…

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Date: 30/12/2012 13:59:00
From: Dinetta
ID: 246398
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:


Dinetta said:

apotheosis

apothecary is a chemist.
so chemistry is my guess

I have to relocate it, didn’t note the page when I found it…but I think I’ve narrowed it down to the first 124 pages?

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Date: 30/12/2012 14:56:12
From: trichome
ID: 246426
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


apotheosis

where are you getting these words from :)

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Date: 30/12/2012 15:01:25
From: justin
ID: 246431
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


Dinetta said:

apotheosis

where are you getting these words from :)

dinetta is on a thomas hardy revisitation i think …?

did you know it’s permissible to make up your own words using greek or latin derivatives?

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Date: 30/12/2012 15:06:22
From: Dinetta
ID: 246434
Subject: re: Words 2012

trichome said:


Dinetta said:

apotheosis

where are you getting these words from :)

I come across them when I’m reading…

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Date: 30/12/2012 15:07:24
From: Dinetta
ID: 246435
Subject: re: Words 2012

justin said:

did you know it’s permissible to make up your own words using greek or latin derivatives?

Augh!!

No, just the one TH book but since these Word threads have been created, when I come across an obscure word, I like to put it up…

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Date: 30/12/2012 15:55:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 246453
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


justin said:

RB’s definition is better than the websters!
“Like a mirage. Vanishes before it realises.”

I agree, much better…

Why thanks be to the both of ye. ;)

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Date: 14/01/2013 22:02:20
From: Happy Potter
ID: 252141
Subject: re: Words 2012

Hivemind

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Date: 14/01/2013 22:06:28
From: bluegreen
ID: 252143
Subject: re: Words 2012

Happy Potter said:


Hivemind

are you reading Orson Scott Card?

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Date: 14/01/2013 22:16:12
From: Happy Potter
ID: 252144
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


Happy Potter said:

Hivemind

are you reading Orson Scott Card?

No ..

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Date: 14/01/2013 22:28:29
From: bluegreen
ID: 252147
Subject: re: Words 2012

Happy Potter said:


bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Hivemind

are you reading Orson Scott Card?

No ..

OK. It is the sort of word he would have used.

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Date: 14/01/2013 22:30:18
From: painmaster
ID: 252149
Subject: re: Words 2012

Happy Potter said:


Hivemind

not a real word.

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Date: 14/01/2013 22:30:43
From: bluegreen
ID: 252150
Subject: re: Words 2012

Happy Potter said:


Hivemind

I’m thinking the communal “mind” or purpose of communal insects like bees or ants. How they all seem to know what to do and work together for the same goal.

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Date: 14/01/2013 22:37:06
From: Happy Potter
ID: 252153
Subject: re: Words 2012

bluegreen said:


Happy Potter said:

Hivemind

I’m thinking the communal “mind” or purpose of communal insects like bees or ants. How they all seem to know what to do and work together for the same goal.

Close enough :) Hmm that was too quick :)

collective consciousness

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Date: 15/01/2013 09:05:02
From: Dinetta
ID: 252255
Subject: re: Words 2012

Happy Potter said:


bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Hivemind

I’m thinking the communal “mind” or purpose of communal insects like bees or ants. How they all seem to know what to do and work together for the same goal.

Close enough :) Hmm that was too quick :)

collective consciousness

Well if it’s not a real word, and that’s its’ meaning, it should be a real word…jolly good to whoever invented it…

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Date: 15/01/2013 09:12:44
From: Happy Potter
ID: 252261
Subject: re: Words 2012

Dinetta said:


Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

I’m thinking the communal “mind” or purpose of communal insects like bees or ants. How they all seem to know what to do and work together for the same goal.

Close enough :) Hmm that was too quick :)

collective consciousness

Well if it’s not a real word, and that’s its’ meaning, it should be a real word…jolly good to whoever invented it…

I agree Dinetta. Being community minded I like the word and I will use it.

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