1 : attack education

Australia is set to become the world’s largest donor to education in Burma, with plans in place to train 20,000 teachers over the next four years.

Foreign Minister Bob Carr made the announcement at the end of his three-day visit to the country.

Mr Carr says Australia will also double aid to Burma by 2015.

Students to bear brunt of funds cut
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/students-to-bear-brunt-of-funds-cut/story-e6frgcjx-1226209570370

FEDERAL support for public schools would fall as much as 6 per cent in real terms over the next three years, according to an analysis of the federal budget by a University of Sydney academic, Dr Jim McMorrow.

In the same period, funding for private schools would rise by 11 per cent, said Dr McMorrow, an honorary associate professor of education.

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A number of funding programs established by the Rudd government which are mainly directed at disadvantaged public schools are due to finish in this period.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/report-outlines-public-school-funding-cuts-20110524-1f2kw.html#ixzz1xFbZ5NLo

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FEDERAL support for public schools would fall as much as 6 per cent in real terms over the next three years, according to an analysis of the federal budget by a University of Sydney academic, Dr Jim McMorrow.

In the same period, funding for private schools would rise by 11 per cent, said Dr McMorrow, an honorary associate professor of education.

A number of funding programs established by the Rudd government which are mainly directed at disadvantaged public schools are due to finish in this period.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/report-outlines-public-school-funding-cuts-20110524-1f2kw.html#ixzz1xFbZ5NLo

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THE nation’s top scientists are alarmed that the federal government will scrap funding for two successful science education programs in schools.

The Australian Academy of Science says the decision to withdraw Commonwealth support is wrong in an era when student achievement in the subject is slipping compared with other countries and schools have dire shortages of specialist teachers.

“In the last 10 years, the number of students studying science subjects in high school has fallen significantly,” says Professor Suzanne Cory, the academy’s president. “This has grave implications for research, innovation and industry, as well as the ability of our citizens to understand and address environmental and medical problems.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/alarm-as-funding-cuts-hit-school-programs-20110401-1crgz.html#ixzz1xFbxbSPO

The number of tertiary scholarships offered to Burmese students to study in Australia will also be increased.

oh yes

we won’t fund are own people and push costs higher for anyone wishing to learn here but make it free for people who have never contributed a cent.

next election please don’t vote for “labor”

you have a very narrow view of things. think of the money in aid we will save in the future when these countries are more knowledgeable.

give a man a fish and he eats for a day…..etc.

Boris said:

you have a very narrow view of things. think of the money in aid we will save in the future when these countries are more knowledgeable.

give a man a fish and he eats for a day…..etc.

its not our responsibility to save the rest of the world

we’ve been throwing our money at these backwards places for quite some time – it doesn’t work

india added another 180 million in 10 years, the last thing we need to do is keep compounding the problem

stop the money flow – stop the problem one way or the other.

we can trade with these countries but its not our repsonsibility to help these countries

the problem is this the more monet you throw at these countries the more you feel that you have “ownership” over them and you have the right to be there and dictate to them what they should be doing and when.

when we should eb protecting our own way of life and cleaning up the problems in our own backyard we are gallivanting around the world and throwing money or bombs at people.

the problem is this the more monet
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maybe you could build art museums for them?

its not our responsibility to save the rest of the world

a selfish and narrow view. we are part of this world same as we are part of our country same as we are part of our local community.

no man is an island.

Wookie, you may be surprised to know that education is one of Australia’s major export income earners. In fact, as a percentage of population we are far and away the biggest provider of education services in the world.

7% of all international students study in Australia. Approximately 25% of tertiary students in Australia are fee paying students from overseas.

We should be shouting this information from the rooftops…we’re number bloody one and it’s not in just diggin something up and shipping it off. We are the world’s best in providing education.

Boris said:

its not our responsibility to save the rest of the world

a selfish and narrow view. we are part of this world same as we are part of our country same as we are part of our local community.
no man is an island.

really??

in the course of your normal life do you go and save problem gamblers and drug addicts, do you live in areas where there are plenty of idiots who like to attack you and break into your home.

man in theory is the wisest of animals, let him solve his own problems.

the reason these countries don’t work is despite the brainwashing you might have been given none of these other characters can get on with each other, they fight and seek to oppress each other, they are ignorant. when you start “helping” them it only makes them worse, import them and you get the same problems here. saddams wedding singer was gaoled in this country recently for bag snatching from old ladies. you’ll find that many of these countries are incredibly racist and prejudiced against anyone who doesn’t have their religion.

lets solve our problems here first before we start exporting and importing more problems

there are 100,000 homeless in australia, lets house them first before we start telling the rest of the world how great we are

it would seem we don’t want to educate our own people, just other people who aren’t us.

it would explain why they don’t want to train 1700 people here but bring 1700 people from elsewhere to work in the mines

in the course of your normal life do you go and save problem gamblers and drug addicts, do you live in areas where there are plenty of idiots who like to attack you and break into your home.

my contribution is keeping out of everyones way. 8i support my community by spending my money there even though it is probably more expensive then shopping in the “big town”. aid is just not about helping druggies and the like.

as i said you have a very narrow worldview. it is horrible really.

>it would seem we don’t want to educate our own people, just other people who aren’t us.

No, they are not mutually exclusive outcomes. Unbelievably (sic) we can educate our own population whilst at the same time earning mucho feelthy lucre by allowing foreign students to pay a substantial fee to study here.

it would explain why they don’t want to train 1700 people here but bring 1700 people from elsewhere to work in the mines

they aren’t training them. these are already trained. the mines don’t want untrained people, well they want some and they have an extensive apprenticeship program to prove it, but they want people that can do the job. you need a balance.

get whats happening over here sorted before we start exporting our money elsewhere

you might remember they slashed funding to the csiro recently

ever seen the adverts on the tv about farming communities that have no access to healthcare??

donate all your money to these programs then wookie or some of your time. what exactly do you do to change all you complain about? not just bang on about it on forums hopefully. list the projects you are personally involved with. the advisory committees you are on.

wookie, there’s a red-headed person named Pauline who would definitely subscribe to your newsletter.

Boris said:

it would explain why they don’t want to train 1700 people here but bring 1700 people from elsewhere to work in the mines

they aren’t training them. these are already trained. the mines don’t want untrained people, well they want some and they have an extensive apprenticeship program to prove it, but they want people that can do the job. you need a balance.

tough

our country

our rules

if the mining companies don’t like it they can go elsewhere and battle it out in some wartorn banana replublic

in the meantime we can mine minerals ourselves one way or the other.

mining companies are not loyal to australia they are loyal to themsleves and once rich and powerful become no more than a state within a state. if australia was attacked the mining companies would be putting out the feelers to see if their new overlords would be accommodating. they don’t care about this country or its inhabitants. CSG is systematically destroying the water in australia. once the gas runs out and the water wells are poisoned they will go elsewhere to do their work.

when in rome do what the romans do

stop ranting wookie and try to form a cogent argument.

Geoff D said:

wookie, there’s a red-headed person named Pauline who would definitely subscribe to your newsletter.

pauline hanson didn’t have any plan or any idea of what she was talking about, she couldn’t think for herself

my own firsthand investigations found that she was being run by various extremists and fisth columnists (get out there and start talking to these people) , this is why the wheels fell off the train in a short time.

fisth columnists

they are always around when the chisps are down.

Boris said:

stop ranting wookie and try to form a cogent argument.

the argument is that we should stop giving money away and spent it here where its needed

oh yes

ever heard of the self service science forums??

the abc didn’t have the money to keep one small science forum going

QED

Boris said:

fisth columnists

they are always around when the chisps are down.

i always put vinegar on my fifth columnists

wookiemeister said:

Geoff D said:

wookie, there’s a red-headed person named Pauline who would definitely subscribe to your newsletter.

pauline hanson didn’t have any plan or any idea of what she was talking about, she couldn’t think for herself

my own firsthand investigations found that she was being run by various extremists and fisth columnists (get out there and start talking to these people) , this is why the wheels fell off the train in a short time.

Doesn’t change the fact that you are coming out with the same sort of crap she spouted, whether it be from her own feeble brain or from those ‘controlling’ her.

wookiemeister said:

next election please don’t vote for “labor”

I’ll vote for whoever I damn well like. I find it offensive to be told who not to vote for by someone like you.

Geoff D said:

wookiemeister said:

Geoff D said:

wookie, there’s a red-headed person named Pauline who would definitely subscribe to your newsletter.

pauline hanson didn’t have any plan or any idea of what she was talking about, she couldn’t think for herself

my own firsthand investigations found that she was being run by various extremists and fisth columnists (get out there and start talking to these people) , this is why the wheels fell off the train in a short time.

Doesn’t change the fact that you are coming out with the same sort of crap she spouted, whether it be from her own feeble brain or from those ‘controlling’ her.

if you had your way this country would be totally improverished and wracked with armed civil war if we persued the utopian policies that have never worked anywhere

nice try to connect me with pauline, i’m surprised you didn’t go for the nazi tag because i dared to suggest we get 100,000 homeless every night into accommodation before we start spending money elsewhere.

the more we feed the fire across the world the worse things get.

we shouldn’t give them a cent. they should do something crazy like trade with us to get what they need. if they like weapons we could always just make some semi-automatics and sell them to them